5/16/2007 Broken upgrade paths in F7

[Tom "spot" Callaway]

On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:14 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> On 17/05/07, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday 17 May 2007 07:55:18 Josh Boyer wrote:
> > > Ah. I'll try and bug DaveJ about it as we get closer and send (or have
> > > him send) something out once it's know.
> >
> > This is yet another reason why external kmods are such crap piles.  Often
> > times the kernel is the very last package to build, and when we "know" that
> > it is good, is when we actually do the spins.  We don't always have time to
> > wait for N kernel mods to rebuild against it and get tagged.  When the kmods
> > were in a separate repo this was less of an issue, but now that everything is
> > in the same repo it is far far more important of an issue and one that will
> > hound us quite often, like with every kernel update.
> 
> /me resists the urge to ask why Fedora doesn't move to using dkms for
> kernel modules. Yes, I know, Fedora is primarily a binary
> distribution. The packaging of kernel modules that Mathias has been
> doing for freshrpms with dkms is living testament to the ease of that
> approach though. Oh dear, I didn't resist the urge.

Because we will not assume our end users have full toolchains and kernel
devel environments simply to get a driver installed.

~spot