Someone's missing the point...it's us.

Thijs Hulshof thulshof at gmail.com
Fri Aug 12 16:39:59 UTC 2005


On 8/12/05, Greg DeKoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Stuart Ellis wrote:
> 
> > Very much so...there's not a lot of positive talking points around, just
> > negatives, and so those are what people repeat. The words "support" and
> > "stability" also seem to cause a lot of confusion when they are used,
> > regardless of the intent. Perhaps marketing material should use
> > different terms to differentiate things like API stability vs.
> > five-nines stability, vs. not crashing in normal use ?
> >
> > > But again, "why Fedora"? For those who are not already converted, it's
> > > the most important question we can answer, and as Paul points out, 
> we're
> > > not currently doing a very good job of it.
> >
> > It might be worth thinking about it in terms of use cases. It's easy
> > for other people to say that "Debian stable is for your servers" or
> > "Ubuntu is great for your desktops". But, "Fedora is for ???"
> >
> > For what it's worth, I advocate Fedora as the best distribution for
> > teaching and learning Linux - easy setup to get you going, config tools
> > that don't interfere with CLI use, cutting edge tech without being
> > unstable, everything you learn on your PC transferable to RHEL/CentOS on
> > Serious Enterprise Hardware.
> 
> I like that one, very bullet-pointy and identifies an immediate
> "vertical". "Teaching and learning Linux." Any others?


Not everyone wants to learn things about Linux. Example: My dad is running 
Fedora Core without problems, but he isn't really interested in computers. 

"Teaching and learning Linux." - and when you've learnt things about Linux 
with Fedora, you should move to another distribution ?? I understand what 
you mean, but maybe others don't (that can cause a new image-problem).

I think we should focus on:
- "Normal" users, those who just want to use the internet, OpenOffice.org, 
etc. without problems.
- Those who want to learn Linux, like you already said.

- Thijs

(Of course, for reasons that must surely appear obvious, I'd rather not
> see CentOS mentioned in the same breath as RHEL. I spend too much time
> with lawyers as it is.)
> 
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