mentors

[Marc Wiriadisastra]

Could it be setup in a way where the posts are done to the forums however
the information flow is done through the mailing list.  I know its sortof
backwards but a generic bit of info goes to the mailing list.  Where as a
specific question can get asked out on the forums.

My only problem that I can see is I'm not sure whether there are
sufficient developers that visit the fedoraforum.org website.  That being
said I think the devel side.  I know Rahul is on there a heap which I
think its great.  Most I would say go wow this is a person who
contributes, he is willing to contribute his mindset to a problem or a
question as well and generally puts a different view which might not have
been considered.

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Marc Wiriadisastra
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> On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 10:45 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
>> On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 14:36 +0800, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote:
>>
>> > I personally have spent numerous days learning how to build rpm's as
>> well
>> > as trying to follow the fedora package naming and layout conventions
>> and I
>> > thought wouldn't that be a great idea.  If someone is interested in
>> > learning provided they don't waste peoples time by actually WANTING to
>> > contribute maybe a mentors list go get them from a newbie/basic
>> > contributor to an active member of the support/devel crew.
>>
>> This is an interesting idea.
>>
>> One of the problems facing knowledgeable contributors in mentoring new
>> contributors is separating the wheat from the chaff on current mailing
>> lists.  When you do get a chance to mentor, the quality post is easily
>> lost in the flying chaff around it.
>>
>> A list that was specifically for mentoring would have all manner of
>> posts to it, technical, cultural, packaging, why to (v. how to), etc.
>> However, the purpose for mentors to post would be to grow the knowledge
>> and culture.  Getting answers in the archives where they can be searched
>> and understood.
>
> I don't want to throw cold water on what I think is a really good idea.
> But it bears mentioning that it would be *very* easy for this list to
> become "fedora-list II."  That's not a judgment call on the worth of
> fedora-list, just a note that the f-mentoring-l would become redundant
> if that happened.
>
>> In this case, a requirement (or strong suggestion) of joining the
>> mentors list is to thumb through the archives.  New contributors who
>> read the archives can be answering questions for other newbies, thus
>> carrying on the chain.
>
> Why doesn't this become a feature of FedoraForum.org instead?  That kind
> of presentation for this information is much more popular and less
> intimidating than mailing lists, plus it means that people who are not
> happy to receive large amounts of email daily are more likely to
> participate, even if it is sporadically.
>
>> Ideally, a normal list should function in this mentoring fashion.  With
>> such populated and work-intensive lists, however, the mentoring gets
>> lost.
>
> Exactly.
>
>> Another possibility would be, when a mentor-type is posting something to
>> any list that has good mentoring in it, they are asked to cross-post to
>> fedora-mentoring-list.  Thus the list becomes a targeted location for
>> mentoring activity all over the project.
>
> I wonder if there's a way of enabling this from the forum side... not
> sure since I don't run one.  Might be worth bringing it up with the
> FF.org manager.
>
>> Good idea!
>>
>> If we work out the details, I'll sponsor starting the list, if you are
>> interested in helping administrate and promote the idea.
>
> If you're able to keep an appropriate dress code, it could work well.
> I'm in favor of figuring out a way to hook the content to FF.org.
>
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