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Re: New logo guidelines and web design elements posted
- From: Gain Paolo Mureddu <gmureddu prodigy net mx>
- To: Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base <fedora-marketing-list redhat com>
- Subject: Re: New logo guidelines and web design elements posted
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:05:31 -0500
chasd silveroaks com escribió:
The new logo guidelines are out!
I am glad to see the guidelines are simple, short, and easy to
understand, at least from the perspective of someone used to looking
at this type of document. Some comments:
The color of the guides used to delineate the clear space reserved
around the graphics is difficult to read, and is too similar to the
color choices of the graphics. As someone that has created bluelines
in the past, I understand why light blue was chosen, but I think gray
or black may have been a better choice.
Couldn't agree more.
This is a very good idea. As I am designing some computer case stickers
(I was originally thinking on leaving the background transparent) I came
to realize there are quite a bit of black cases out there (including
mine) which would render the symbol almost invisible. So a range of
approved colors for the background is indeed a good idea.
I would recommend that acceptable background colors be specifically
listed, and all others prohibited. This is common in other graphic
standards documents I have been exposed to. I think the "whitelist"
for backgrounds should be white or the listed PMS 2935. It isn't hard
for me to close my eyes and imagine some rather distasteful or
problematic background colors used, but maybe that's my problem. For
example, the logo on a background of PMS 541 ( the dark blue ) would
make the symbol almost disappear, but that is not prohibited by the
document. The logo on black would lose the symbol in the darkness (
logotype in white ), although it would not be as bad as a background
of PMS 541.
Perhaps the clear space around the logo if it is placed on a
non-acceptable background could have rounded edges similar to the
backgrounds used in the usage guide. This would make a "badge" of
sorts. Of course, a radius for the corners relating to the x-height
shown would be a good idea.
I may be a total inexperienced user and complete amateur when it comes
to graphics design and color theory, but unless I'm terribly wrong,
that's why the Pantone® color numbers are used, isn't it?, I am using
Inkscape, as I'm doing all in Linux with free software... One thing odd,
though... As you say, CMYK values are rather odd, however the
hexadecimal values and the RGBA values DO correspond to those in the
PDF. I would assume there is a problem with CMYK support in Inkscape,
which might be worth to report to the mailing list. I have had some
trouble manipulating the files in Inkscape (only tried with the infinity
symbol, though), but I had to resort to the XML editor to be able to
select the different four elements of the drawing, when trying to select
with the mouse, only a grouped selection is possible... I suppose this
is what the original designer intended, and (compared to a "pure" SVG
made with Inkscape), the file has two additional images (one in jpeg
format and one in PGF [for whatever that is]) which I have been unable
to export (they're only "visible" from the XML editor, or viewing the
file with the cat or less commands).
The RGB and CMYK colors should be listed as approximate, since how
devices render those values varies considerably. However without using
LAB values, what you have is probably the best you can do.
Although many people assume all RGB values are specified on a scale of
0-255, there are several graphics programs that use 0-100. The scale
of RGB values is not mentioned in the document.
Curiously, if I open the SVG files in InkScape, not the originating
program ( Illustrator 11 ), the color values are much different from
those specified in the usage document ( in _all_ color spaces ). In my
tests, if I used Illustrator 11 or 12, the colors are specified
correctly ( but not in Illustrator 10 ). However, it is likely that
someone will use InkScape ( or Xara LX ) to open these graphics files.
Although I would expect there would be a huge scream about proprietary
formats, I would recommend providing the original .ai files for those
that _want_ to use Illustrator, .svg files exported from InkScape with
correct color values for thse that want to use that program, and CMYK
.eps files for use specifically in print. SVG is great, but it doesn't
support CMYK very well ( if at all ), so if you need to distribute
something specifically for print, EPS is the best format. You could
have 2 PMS color EPS files as well. Many modern color laser printers
support DeviceN color ( like at Kinko's ), so color matching is
generally better now using PMS specification rather than CMYK, a
switch from a few short years ago.
Will there be a layout file/template so that printed information
distributed at LUG meeting would have a consistent look ?
( OOo, Scribus, InDesign, XPress )
A OOo Impress template ?
This is actually a very good idea indeed!
Otherwise, great job !
Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
Repercussions are ?
I've got a big steel ruler, but it doesn't stretch that far . . .
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