From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 1 05:27:52 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:57:52 +0530 Subject: Fedora struggles with harm reduction via Codec Buddy Message-ID: <472963D8.2070101@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Very interesting take on a thorny issue. Some questions about the nature of the agreement is also answered here.. http://www.linux.com/feature/120703 "In public health, harm reduction is a practice that, rather than trying to eradicate potentially dangerous choices like prostitution, tries to minimize their effects. Often, the practice involves a limited condoning of the practice, such as safe injection sites for addicts. Harm reduction is the path that Fedora 8 has chosen on the issue of MP3 and other non-free codecs in the form of Codec Buddy, a Codeina-based program that tries to educate users about free software while giving them easy legal access to codecs by linking to the commercial Fluendo site. It's a decision about which the Fedora Board and community leaders feel considerable ambivalence." Rahul From duffy at redhat.com Thu Nov 1 06:45:32 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:45:32 -0400 Subject: spins.fpo design Message-ID: <4729760C.8020507@redhat.com> Hey folks, Just an update on the spins.fpo design I've been working on. At this point I am sure it will not make f8's release but I'd like to get it up as soon as is reasonable post-release. :) So, remember the mockups i did a while back? I started HTML-ifying them; I just finished with the main content for the spins details mock (still need to add the fpo template to it as well as the icons): - HTML: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/spins/spin-details.html - Mockup: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/spindetailsmock2.png The other HTML I want to do is for this mockup: - Mockup: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/spinsmock5.png (the banner at the top will be replaced with new artwork! something like this: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/spins/djs.png) Overall I think the spins.fpo site should have the following pages: -- main page: introduction to what spins are | |-- spin details page | | | |- bittorrent tutorial | | | |_ what's my arch tutorial | |-- what is a spin / how do i use a spin page | |__ how do i create my own spin? page The open work items I see from a design POV are: 1 - Content for the how to create my own spin page (any suggestions on existing content I can use for this page?) (0% done AFAIK) 2 - Content for the what is a spin / how do i use a spin page? (any suggestions on existing content I can use for this page?) (0% done AFAIK) 3 - Mockups & HTML for the 6 pages in the above sitemap (maybe 25% there) 4 - Finish DJ banner artwork for the main page (80% done) 5 - Obtain photos from willing Fedora users to represent the spins (25%, Manuel Amador has provided me photos, I may need to make a formal call for photo submissions or start taking photos of innocent vict^H^H^H^H volunteers around the office :)) 6 - Get all the content into i18n-able templates and into git... Work out a mechanism to generate a details page for each spin and get content into it? (0% done, any ideas?) Eventually I think we will need a spins 'directory' but thus far we have few enough spins we dn't have to worry about that yet. Anyhow, I hope this gives a clear picture of where we're at for the blingtastic spins page; if anybody has answers/suggestions for the open work items above do share :) ~m From duffy at redhat.com Thu Nov 1 13:35:55 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:35:55 -0400 Subject: spins.fpo design In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0711010509y6958a4fj4fa7f255db5d7b02@mail.gmail.com> References: <4729760C.8020507@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0711010509y6958a4fj4fa7f255db5d7b02@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4729D63B.3070301@redhat.com> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 11/1/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Hey folks, >> Anyhow, I hope this gives a clear picture of where we're at for the >> blingtastic spins page; if anybody has answers/suggestions for the open >> work items above do share :) > > This is awesome :) > > Based on your mockups and your html, this is the best I could do. > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ Nice :) Some of the css styles look a little different, is that intentional? What's the licensing of the image? ~m From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Nov 1 13:34:51 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:34:51 -0500 Subject: Fedora struggles with harm reduction via Codec Buddy In-Reply-To: <472963D8.2070101@fedoraproject.org> References: <472963D8.2070101@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4729D5FB.9090303@redhat.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Very interesting take on a thorny issue. Some questions about the > nature of the agreement is also answered here.. > > http://www.linux.com/feature/120703 > > "In public health, harm reduction is a practice that, rather than > trying to eradicate potentially dangerous choices like prostitution, > tries to minimize their effects. Often, the practice involves a > limited condoning of the practice, such as safe injection sites for > addicts. Harm reduction is the path that Fedora 8 has chosen on the > issue of MP3 and other non-free codecs in the form of Codec Buddy, a > Codeina-based program that tries to educate users about free software > while giving them easy legal access to codecs by linking to the > commercial Fluendo site. It's a decision about which the Fedora Board > and community leaders feel considerable ambivalence." The thing about this that bugs me is if Fluendo had done the work themselves and gotten rpms and code together and put it in Fedora, no one would have a problem with it. And, FWIW, we're not stoping any other companies from doing that but the perception for some reason seems worse when its us that did the work. -Mike From gdk at redhat.com Thu Nov 1 13:57:20 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora struggles with harm reduction via Codec Buddy In-Reply-To: <4729D5FB.9090303@redhat.com> References: <472963D8.2070101@fedoraproject.org> <4729D5FB.9090303@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Mike McGrath wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Very interesting take on a thorny issue. Some questions about the nature of >> the agreement is also answered here.. >> >> http://www.linux.com/feature/120703 >> >> "In public health, harm reduction is a practice that, rather than trying to >> eradicate potentially dangerous choices like prostitution, tries to >> minimize their effects. Often, the practice involves a limited condoning of >> the practice, such as safe injection sites for addicts. Harm reduction is >> the path that Fedora 8 has chosen on the issue of MP3 and other non-free >> codecs in the form of Codec Buddy, a Codeina-based program that tries to >> educate users about free software while giving them easy legal access to >> codecs by linking to the commercial Fluendo site. It's a decision about >> which the Fedora Board and community leaders feel considerable >> ambivalence." > > The thing about this that bugs me is if Fluendo had done the work themselves > and gotten rpms and code together and put it in Fedora, no one would have a > problem with it. And, FWIW, we're not stoping any other companies from doing > that but the perception for some reason seems worse when its us that did the > work. Mike, Bruce was just accurately reflecting the ambivalence that the board itself has expressed on the topic. For Fluendo, the business goal of getting Codec Buddy into Fedora is to legally upsell proprietary codecs to Fedora users. I think it's a fair goal, but it's not without uncomfortable ambiguities. What if another company offers what Fluendo offers? Would our inclusion of Fluendo as a default link constitute discrimination against other vendors? Let's take the scenario a step further. What happens when someone puts a piece of free crippleware into Fedora, the sole purpose of which is to upsell to something that isn't crippleware? How will we feel about that? This is just the first time we've had to face these kinds of issues. As more business concerns coalesce around Fedora, it won't be the last. --g -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 1 14:04:00 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:04:00 +0100 Subject: spins.fpo design In-Reply-To: <4729D63B.3070301@redhat.com> References: <4729760C.8020507@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0711010509y6958a4fj4fa7f255db5d7b02@mail.gmail.com> <4729D63B.3070301@redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0711010704x2917698i8426875f7056687b@mail.gmail.com> On 11/1/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Nice :) > > Some of the css styles look a little different, is that intentional? no it isn't intentional. Well I took the http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/css/ which was the one everyone is using on fedorapeople.org > What's the licensing of the image? Trond Danielsen (a fedora contributor) took this picture especially for FEL. I guess he will release it under a free license. http://flickr.com/photos/trondd/sets/72157602788210383/detail/ Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From duffy at redhat.com Thu Nov 1 14:07:02 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:07:02 -0400 Subject: spins.fpo design In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0711010704x2917698i8426875f7056687b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4729760C.8020507@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0711010509y6958a4fj4fa7f255db5d7b02@mail.gmail.com> <4729D63B.3070301@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0711010704x2917698i8426875f7056687b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4729DD86.80404@redhat.com> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 11/1/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Nice :) >> >> Some of the css styles look a little different, is that intentional? > > no it isn't intentional. > Well I took the http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/css/ which was the > one everyone is using on fedorapeople.org Ah okay, what I can do them is merge your content into the stuff I'm doing to get a final polished version and fix some of the css differences. >> What's the licensing of the image? > > Trond Danielsen (a fedora contributor) took this picture especially > for FEL. I guess he will release it under a free license. > http://flickr.com/photos/trondd/sets/72157602788210383/detail/ Oh okay great! These look great and are CC-BY, perfect! :) ~m From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Nov 1 14:19:19 2007 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (jkeating) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:19:19 -0400 Subject: Fedora struggles with harm reduction via Codec Buddy In-Reply-To: References: <472963D8.2070101@fedoraproject.org> <4729D5FB.9090303@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20071101101919.65d8d547@j2solutions.net> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Let's take the scenario a step further. What happens when someone > puts a piece of free crippleware into Fedora, the sole purpose of > which is to upsell to something that isn't crippleware? How will we > feel about that? > > This is just the first time we've had to face these kinds of issues. > As more business concerns coalesce around Fedora, it won't be the > last. This is not the correct venue to argue about such things though. I'd be happy to argue with people about this elsewhere though! -- Jesse Keating RHCE (jkeating.livejournal.com) Fedora Project (fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ljuwaida at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 1 22:19:28 2007 From: ljuwaida at fedoraproject.org (Laith Juwaidah) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 02:19:28 +0400 Subject: My first event but... Message-ID: Hi, An open day will be held in one of the biggest universities in the country on the 6th of Nov. I want to participate but I've got some problems: 1. I don't think I can do everything on my own, I tried to contact the other ambassador in the country, Mr. Yasser Al-Shaqsi, twice, but I haven't got any reply. 2. I don't have the material I need: I don't have T-shirts, I don't have a projector. All I have is a laptop where people can try Fedora... 3. I don't know about this but it's stupid to say to someone "Here's the seventh version. Oh! BTW, the eighth version will be released after 3 days"!!!! So, what do you think? Should I go for it, or should I just wait till the next event? (The nearest even I know about is COMEX which will be in April) :( Cheers! -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nayyares at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 06:03:05 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:03:05 +0200 Subject: My first event but... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711012303pd9c583fgd5acfb1424323107@mail.gmail.com> Hi Laith, On 11/2/07, Laith Juwaidah wrote: > > Hi, > > An open day will be held in one of the biggest universities in the country > on the 6th of Nov. > > I want to participate but I've got some problems: > 1. I don't think I can do everything on my own, I tried to contact the > other ambassador in the country, Mr. Yasser Al-Shaqsi, twice, but I haven't > got any reply. 2. I don't have the material I need: I don't have T-shirts, I don't have a > projector. All I have is a laptop where people can try Fedora... If you d'nt have these stuff right now, you can plan to just visit the event and move around in public places, discuss the aims and objective of Fedora Project, just to spread the word FEDORA ! it is not mandatory that you have to organize at that level, if you are alone at the time...its the best time to find few people there, you might explain the limitations you have in presenting Fedora during the day , and it may happen that some one agree to help you in organizing such events... keep in mind that Fedora is a non-profit project, we always have limitations in term of money, but people (we) support/work for the project just to promote an idea that fascinate us, and we want to spread it to others... My recommendation for you would be to have fun during the day at university and speak about Fedora, spread the word... ! 3. I don't know about this but it's stupid to say to someone "Here's the > seventh version. Oh! BTW, the eighth version will be released after 3 > days"!!!! i have already explain to you, just talk about Fedora features and objectives.... So, what do you think? Should I go for it, or should I just wait till the > next event? (The nearest even I know about is COMEX which will be in April) > :( i d'nt think it would be a great idea to wait until you get all stuff in hands...you might never get them... as i told you Fedora is a non-profit project that produce a 100% free O.S, the way you can plan next event is to find people who can barrow(for free) you these stuff for event's presentations, while you can apply under Free-Media program for promotion of the project in your native ! Moral : we (Fedora) d'nt force anybody for over burden, we (Fedora People) get fun when spread the idea ! we (Fedora) d'nt believe in number... cheer ! Cheers! > > -- > Laith Juwaidah > http://www.ljuwaidah.org > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 2 07:47:36 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:47:36 +0100 Subject: Flyer to spread Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Here is a flyer for Fedora Electronic Lab (8 pages) describing all its features. http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-flyer8.pdf Feel free to send a copy to your friends. I don't know whether it might be useful to anyone. I've made an abstract for my university and laboratory where I showed our progress and the actual benefits, FEL could give. http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-abstract.pdf regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From laxathom at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 2 08:18:47 2007 From: laxathom at fedoraproject.org (Xavier Lamien) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:18:47 +0100 Subject: Flyer to spread In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <62bc09df0711020118w695d6728j83c15a550032e628@mail.gmail.com> 2007/11/2, Chitlesh GOORAH : > > Hello there, > > Here is a flyer for Fedora Electronic Lab (8 pages) describing all its > features. > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-flyer8.pdf > > Feel free to send a copy to your friends. > > > I don't know whether it might be useful to anyone. I've made an > abstract for my university and laboratory where I showed our progress > and the actual benefits, FEL could give. > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-abstract.pdf > > regards, > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > Nice work Chitlesh ;) Do you also plan to translate them in french ? -- Xavier.t Lamien -- French Fedora Ambassador Fedora/EPEL Contributor | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XavierLamien GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nayyares at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 08:20:12 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:20:12 +0200 Subject: Flyer to spread In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711020120r71bff9dft9d8161e7af4762a5@mail.gmail.com> Hi Chitlesh, its a really cool project :) i have posted at http://www.linuxpakistan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37680#37680 i hope many will take benefit from this project ! keep the good work going... ! Cheers On 11/2/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > Hello there, > > Here is a flyer for Fedora Electronic Lab (8 pages) describing all its > features. > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-flyer8.pdf > > Feel free to send a copy to your friends. > > > I don't know whether it might be useful to anyone. I've made an > abstract for my university and laboratory where I showed our progress > and the actual benefits, FEL could give. > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-abstract.pdf > > regards, > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ljuwaida at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 2 10:43:12 2007 From: ljuwaida at fedoraproject.org (Laith Juwaidah) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:43:12 +0400 Subject: My first event but... In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30711012303pd9c583fgd5acfb1424323107@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30711012303pd9c583fgd5acfb1424323107@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Wow! I think that by April the Arabic church will have its projector fixed, I can use that :) And I might buy a DVD writer soon, so, that'll be it, and let's hope Mr. Yasser replies :P Thanks! On 11/2/07, Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > Hi Laith, > > On 11/2/07, Laith Juwaidah wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > An open day will be held in one of the biggest universities in the > > country on the 6th of Nov. > > > > I want to participate but I've got some problems: > > 1. I don't think I can do everything on my own, I tried to contact the > > other ambassador in the country, Mr. Yasser Al-Shaqsi, twice, but I haven't > > got any reply. > > 2. I don't have the material I need: I don't have T-shirts, I don't have a > > projector. All I have is a laptop where people can try Fedora... > > > If you d'nt have these stuff right now, you can plan to just visit the > event and move around in public places, discuss the aims and objective of > Fedora Project, just to spread the word FEDORA ! it is not mandatory that > you have to organize at that level, if you are alone at the time...its the > best time to find few people there, you might explain the limitations you > have in presenting Fedora during the day , and it may happen that some one > agree to help you in organizing such events... keep in mind that Fedora is a > non-profit project, we always have limitations in term of money, but people > (we) > support/work for the project just to promote an idea that fascinate us, > and we want to spread it to others... My recommendation for you would be to > have fun during the day at university and speak about Fedora, spread the > word... ! > > > 3. I don't know about this but it's stupid to say to someone "Here's the > > seventh version. Oh! BTW, the eighth version will be released after 3 > > days"!!!! > > > i have already explain to you, just talk about Fedora features and > objectives.... > > So, what do you think? Should I go for it, or should I just wait till the > > next event? (The nearest even I know about is COMEX which will be in April) > > :( > > > i d'nt think it would be a great idea to wait until you get all stuff in > hands...you might never get them... as i told you Fedora is a non-profit > project that produce a 100% free O.S, the way you can plan next event is > to find people who can barrow(for free) you these stuff for event's > presentations, while you can apply under Free-Media program for promotion of > the project in your native ! > > Moral : we (Fedora) d'nt force anybody for over burden, we (Fedora > People) get fun when spread the idea ! we (Fedora) d'nt believe in number... > > cheer ! > > Cheers! > > > > -- > > Laith Juwaidah > > http://www.ljuwaidah.org > > -- > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > -- > Nayyar Ahmad > RHCE (ID:804006858622745) > Skype: nayyares > Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 2 12:25:19 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:25:19 +0900 Subject: OLPC makes it to India Message-ID: <1194006319.2764.23.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Hey All, Just thought I would post this reference for Fedora being the base for OLPC. http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/11/olpc-makes-its-entry-into-india-finally.html When the OLPC first made news, a prominent official in the HRD ministry of the Indian government had gone on record snubbing the OLPC project ($100 laptop), even making a preposterous claim that work was under way to create India's own $10 laptop. But as things have worked out, OLPC has already made an entry into India in the form of a pilot project in a rural primary school in a village in the state of Maharasthra. Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 2 12:27:38 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:27:38 +0900 Subject: OLPC makes it to India In-Reply-To: <1194006319.2764.23.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194006319.2764.23.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <1194006458.2764.25.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 21:25 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > Hey All, > > Just thought I would post this reference for Fedora being the base for > OLPC. > > http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/11/olpc-makes-its-entry-into-india-finally.html > > When the OLPC first made news, a prominent official in the HRD ministry > of the Indian government had gone on record snubbing the OLPC project > ($100 laptop), even making a preposterous claim that work was under way > to create India's own $10 laptop. But as things have worked out, OLPC > has already made an entry into India in the form of a pilot project in a > rural primary school in a village in the state of Maharasthra. > > Cheers, > > Marc > A bit more info. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_Chronicle While I had nothing to do with OLPC I think this is a great news story for how Fedora has helped bring Linux to more users. Cheers, Marc From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 15:25:27 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:55:27 +0530 Subject: What do I need to do if I want to translate fedoraproject.org? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, What do I need to do if I want to translate fedoraproject.org 's main page[1] to Bengali? I can see nine languages[/ar,/ca,/en etc...] listed there though all these translated pages mostly redirect to fedoraproject wiki [2]in english...so how mush do I need to translate ? -- Regards, Susmit. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/ [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki ====================================== ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ====================================== From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 2 15:23:45 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:53:45 +0530 Subject: What do I need to do if I want to translate fedoraproject.org? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472B4101.7090204@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > What do I need to do if I want to translate fedoraproject.org 's main > page[1] to Bengali? > I can see nine languages[/ar,/ca,/en etc...] listed there though all > these translated pages mostly redirect to fedoraproject wiki [2]in > english...so how mush do I need to translate ? About 3 or 4 pages. The procedure is outlined in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2007-October/msg00077.html Recent note https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2007-November/msg00001.html Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 15:28:56 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:58:56 +0530 Subject: What do I need to do if I want to translate fedoraproject.org? In-Reply-To: <472B4101.7090204@fedoraproject.org> References: <472B4101.7090204@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: thanks.... -- Regards, Susmit. ====================================== ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ====================================== From devrim at CommandPrompt.com Fri Nov 2 08:35:11 2007 From: devrim at CommandPrompt.com (Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?=) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:35:11 -0700 Subject: Flyer to spread In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193992511.2998.4.camel@laptop.gunduz.org> Hi, On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 08:47 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Here is a flyer for Fedora Electronic Lab (8 pages) describing all its > features. > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-flyer8.pdf > > Feel free to send a copy to your friends. Good work. Posted to local lists and also blogged it. 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Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet Rahul From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Fri Nov 2 18:14:05 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:14:05 +0000 Subject: New Interview Message-ID: <1194027245.13742.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hey, I'm starting to lose track of the interview number, but the latest interview is up and this time it's about CodecBuddy with Thomas and Bastien. Find it here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/CodecBuddy and digg it here: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Codec_Buddy_in_Fedora_8 I'm picking up the frequency of posts in the run up to Fedora 8 - and still have a few more to go up ... Best wishes all, Jon From imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 20:07:48 2007 From: imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com (Imtiaz Rahi) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 02:07:48 +0600 Subject: New Interview In-Reply-To: <1194027245.13742.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1194027245.13742.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: You are doing a great job Jon. Keep it up. Cheers, Imtiaz On 11/3/07, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > Hey, > > I'm starting to lose track of the interview number, but the latest > interview is up and this time it's about CodecBuddy with Thomas and > Bastien. > > Find it here: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/CodecBuddy > > and digg it here: > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Codec_Buddy_in_Fedora_8 > > I'm picking up the frequency of posts in the run up to Fedora 8 - and > still have a few more to go up ... > > Best wishes all, > > Jon > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 2 20:29:46 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:59:46 +0530 Subject: New Interview In-Reply-To: References: <1194027245.13742.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <472B88BA.8010708@fedoraproject.org> > On 11/3/07, *Jonathan Roberts* < jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com > > wrote: > > Hey, > > I'm starting to lose track of the interview number, but the latest > interview is up and this time it's about CodecBuddy with Thomas and > Bastien. > > Find it here: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/CodecBuddy > > > and digg it here: > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Codec_Buddy_in_Fedora_8 > > I'm picking up the frequency of posts in the run up to Fedora 8 - and > still have a few more to go up ... Good work Jonathan but the developer box is missing. I can't even figure out who is that you have interviewed but my guess is Fluendo developer. Rahul From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Fri Nov 2 21:09:52 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:09:52 +0000 Subject: New Interview In-Reply-To: <472B88BA.8010708@fedoraproject.org> References: <1194027245.13742.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <472B88BA.8010708@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1194037792.3051.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 01:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 11/3/07, *Jonathan Roberts* < jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com > > > wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > I'm starting to lose track of the interview number, but the latest > > interview is up and this time it's about CodecBuddy with Thomas and > > Bastien. > > > > Find it here: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/CodecBuddy > > > > > > and digg it here: > > > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Codec_Buddy_in_Fedora_8 > > > > I'm picking up the frequency of posts in the run up to Fedora 8 - and > > still have a few more to go up ... > > Good work Jonathan but the developer box is missing. I can't even figure > out who is that you have interviewed but my guess is Fluendo developer. Oh shoot! I always seem to forget something :S I've dropped Thomas an e-mail about it and I'll sort it out as soon as I get a reply ... I have put their names in the blurb at the beginning, so at least people might see that and realise who's been interviewed. Best wishes, Jon > > Rahul > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 2 22:40:32 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 04:10:32 +0530 Subject: Book review: Fedora 7 Unleashed Message-ID: <472BA760.3000907@fedoraproject.org> Hi, The reviewer is somewhat critical with the standpoint that books should cover more of the new features in a release. I am not sure whether it fits into the demographics of this book but I certainly do feel that there is a market for a book that only covers new features in every new release of Fedora. The authors involved would have to work hard since many of features pop up sometimes fairly close to the release but since we have a much more organized development plan laid out which is only going to get better we might indeed be making this easier and for authors interested in such a book, I am others would be willing to answer any questions (hint, hint ;-)) http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/01/book-review-fedora-7-unleashed/ "The Linux community has a consistent influx of new users and curious onlookers who have the desire to know more. A consumer-oriented, one-stop shop might get them there faster than the community would, with its plethora of websites and arcane knowledge passed down though stories on cryptic mailing lists. So to keep current, these books keep coming. And if you?re new, it could be your first step into a bigger world." Rahul From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 2 23:15:22 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:15:22 +0900 Subject: Second- life in the Fedora repo's? Message-ID: <1194045322.24082.1.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "My ultimate goal is to make the Second Life client available in the official Fedora repository. This is made difficult by the client's dependence on some closed-source libraries," Lerwick says. http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/103107-second-life.html?page=1 Cheers, Marc From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 2 23:16:38 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 04:46:38 +0530 Subject: Second- life in the Fedora repo's? In-Reply-To: <1194045322.24082.1.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194045322.24082.1.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <472BAFD6.50101@fedoraproject.org> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > "My ultimate goal is to make the Second Life client available in the > official Fedora repository. This is made difficult by the client's > dependence on some closed-source libraries," Lerwick says. > > http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/103107-second-life.html?page=1 Yep. Review is ongoing at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233946 We were hoping to get this in time for the gaming spin but unfortunately the non-free bits are taking time to replace. Rahul From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 2 23:31:45 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:31:45 +0900 Subject: graphics Message-ID: <1194046305.24082.6.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> I was just browsing mugshot as I do. I know Nicu has some dvd/cd covers and other graphics on his site which are brilliant. I just wanted to say I found these today as well and I have to say all this art is brilliant. http://www.molaora.com/index.php/blog/show/CD-cover.html There are other bits and pieces on the site so have a look around. Maybe we need to create a fedora art pack of sorts? Cause I'm really liking all the graphics being released from Nicu and others. Only thing though is that I love how the desktop background changes colours in F8 so I'm not to sure if we would lose that if we switched backgrounds. Cheers, Marc From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 2 23:30:57 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:00:57 +0530 Subject: graphics In-Reply-To: <1194046305.24082.6.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194046305.24082.6.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <472BB331.5030703@fedoraproject.org> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > Only thing though is that I love how the desktop background changes > colours in F8 so I'm not to sure if we would lose that if we switched > backgrounds. You will unless you create a animated version of it. Details of that were posted to fedora-art list earlier by Mo. Rahul From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 2 23:39:17 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:39:17 +0900 Subject: graphics In-Reply-To: <472BB331.5030703@fedoraproject.org> References: <1194046305.24082.6.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> <472BB331.5030703@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1194046757.24082.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 05:00 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > > Only thing though is that I love how the desktop background changes > > colours in F8 so I'm not to sure if we would lose that if we switched > > backgrounds. > > You will unless you create a animated version of it. Details of that > were posted to fedora-art list earlier by Mo. > > Rahul > A crazy thought to differentiate Fedora more from the others could be (sorry art-list) a release of new backgrounds to represent different times of the year with an opt out clause. What I mean is the following. Halloween Graphics Christmas graphics Ramadan(sp?) graphics The Jewish one (sorry I don't know what it is called) They get installed by default at different times of the year so you have evolving desktops overtime. Cheers, Marc From nushio at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 23:42:13 2007 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:42:13 -0600 Subject: graphics In-Reply-To: <1194046757.24082.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194046305.24082.6.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> <472BB331.5030703@fedoraproject.org> <1194046757.24082.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <472BB5D5.3030300@gmail.com> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 05:00 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: >> >> >>> Only thing though is that I love how the desktop background changes >>> colours in F8 so I'm not to sure if we would lose that if we switched >>> backgrounds. >>> >> You will unless you create a animated version of it. Details of that >> were posted to fedora-art list earlier by Mo. >> >> Rahul >> >> > > A crazy thought to differentiate Fedora more from the others could be > (sorry art-list) a release of new backgrounds to represent different > times of the year with an opt out clause. What I mean is the following. > > Halloween Graphics > Christmas graphics > Ramadan(sp?) graphics > The Jewish one (sorry I don't know what it is called) > > They get installed by default at different times of the year so you have > evolving desktops overtime. > > Cheers, > > Marc > > That would be awesome. They could be installed as updates via yum, or could be consolidated at a specific webpage, such as gnome-looks or kde-looks, and have user-submitted wallpaper sets there too. Just my thoughts, -Nushio -- Ing. Juan M. 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URL: From riel at redhat.com Sat Nov 3 00:27:34 2007 From: riel at redhat.com (Rik van Riel) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:27:34 -0400 Subject: Fedora struggles with harm reduction via Codec Buddy In-Reply-To: <4729D5FB.9090303@redhat.com> References: <472963D8.2070101@fedoraproject.org> <4729D5FB.9090303@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20071102202734.20719856@bree.surriel.com> On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:34:51 -0500 Mike McGrath wrote: > > http://www.linux.com/feature/120703 > > > > "In public health, harm reduction is a practice that, rather than > > trying to eradicate potentially dangerous choices like > > prostitution, tries to minimize their effects. > The thing about this that bugs me is Look at it from the bright side: the article indirectly describes software patents as a disease :) -- "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Nov 3 08:20:19 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 04:20:19 -0400 Subject: graphics In-Reply-To: <472BB5D5.3030300@gmail.com> References: <1194046305.24082.6.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> <472BB331.5030703@fedoraproject.org> <1194046757.24082.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> <472BB5D5.3030300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1194078019.472c2f43bfa85@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting "Juan M. Rodriguez" : > Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > A crazy thought to differentiate Fedora more from the others could be > > (sorry art-list) a release of new backgrounds to represent different > > times of the year with an opt out clause. What I mean is the following. > > > > Halloween Graphics > > Christmas graphics > > Ramadan(sp?) graphics > > The Jewish one (sorry I don't know what it is called) > > > > They get installed by default at different times of the year so you have > > evolving desktops overtime. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Marc > > > > > That would be awesome. > They could be installed as updates via yum, or could be consolidated at > a specific webpage, such as gnome-looks or kde-looks, and have > user-submitted wallpaper sets there too. > > Just my thoughts, > -Nushio It can be a possible candidate for featuring on Fedora 9. AFAIR, KDE has a feature to set different background on different desktop. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Sun Nov 4 10:58:25 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:58:25 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 RC3 Message-ID: <1194173905.8351.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/fedora-8-rc-3/ "Fedora 8 RC 3 was released three days ago. This RC shows what users can expect from the upcoming Fedora 8. It comes along with a huge list of new features and bug features. Among them are a KDE 3.5.8, a new NetworkManager core, PolicyKit, PulseAudio and RandR 1.2 support for the open ATI drivers." Cheers, Marc It's also on digg. http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_RC_3_Really_Good_Preview From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Sun Nov 4 11:34:41 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:34:41 +0000 Subject: Release Summary In-Reply-To: <1194173905.8351.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1194173905.8351.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1194176081.2631.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all, Are we hoping to get this finished in time for the F8 release? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary In my opinion, there's not too much work that still needs doing on it. I've been filling out a few more bits of information this morning, and I'll fill out a few more this afternoon too - anybody else able to help a little? What do people think? Is somebody still able to spin this into a PDF? Best wishes, Jon From affix at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 4 14:33:24 2007 From: affix at fedoraproject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 14:33:24 +0000 Subject: Release Summary In-Reply-To: <1194176081.2631.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1194173905.8351.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1194176081.2631.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <498e315d0711040633xa9522efnac605c32aae1d056@mail.gmail.com> I could spin it as a PDF if necisarry. All it would take is open Office. Its looking good so far. I will try an help out within this week. On 11/4/07, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > Hi all, > > Are we hoping to get this finished in time for the F8 release? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary > > In my opinion, there's not too much work that still needs doing on it. > I've been filling out a few more bits of information this morning, and > I'll fill out a few more this afternoon too - anybody else able to help > a little? > > What do people think? Is somebody still able to spin this into a PDF? > > Best wishes, > > Jon > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 16:39:29 2007 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:39:29 -0500 Subject: Release Summary In-Reply-To: <1194176081.2631.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1194173905.8351.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1194176081.2631.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <472DF5C1.20706@gmail.com> Let me know when all the desired info is done and I'll PDF it. Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hi all, > > Are we hoping to get this finished in time for the F8 release? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary > > In my opinion, there's not too much work that still needs doing on it. > I've been filling out a few more bits of information this morning, and > I'll fill out a few more this afternoon too - anybody else able to help > a little? > > What do people think? Is somebody still able to spin this into a PDF? > > Best wishes, > > Jon > > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From gerold at lugd.org Sun Nov 4 20:15:34 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:15:34 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for Developer Rooms + Stands] Message-ID: <1194207334.19160.23.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Von: Pascal Bleser > Antwort an: FOSDEM visitors > An: fosdem at sophos.fosdem.org > Betreff: [FOSDEM] Call for Developer Rooms + Stands > Datum: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:01:23 +0100 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > ... starts now: http://fosdem.org/2008/call_for_devrooms > > Deadline: Monday 2007-11-26, 23:59 CET > > For further information/questions/..., please contact devrooms at fosdem.org > > For projects that have already sent a request, please do send it again, > including the information as asked for on the URL above. > > cheers > - -- > -o) Pascal Bleser http://www.fosdem.org > /\\ FOSDEM 2008 :: 23 + 24 February 2008 in Brussels > _\_v Free and Opensource Software Developers European Meeting > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHLiUTr3NMWliFcXcRAgHNAJ9KvshC62d+JClcNhxi/jS8zQM23wCeN702 > 5xElr/ycDGcJAAVKJjQ4Hbg= > =RQz2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > FOSDEM mailing list > FOSDEM at lists.fosdem.org > http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/fosdem > -- Gerold Kassube -Vorstandsvorsitzender- Linux Usergroup L?rrach e.V. Marie-Curie-Strasse 8 79539 L?rrach _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X & vCards / \ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Sun Nov 4 20:06:21 2007 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:06:21 -0500 Subject: Book review: Fedora 7 Unleashed In-Reply-To: <472BA760.3000907@fedoraproject.org> References: <472BA760.3000907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <472E263D.5020909@prodigy.net.mx> Rahul Sundaram escribi?: > Hi, > > The reviewer is somewhat critical with the standpoint that books > should cover more of the new features in a release. I am not sure > whether it fits into the demographics of this book but I certainly do > feel that there is a market for a book that only covers new features > in every new release of Fedora. The authors involved would have to > work hard since many of features pop up sometimes fairly close to the > release but since we have a much more organized development plan laid > out which is only going to get better we might indeed be making this > easier and for authors interested in such a book, I am others would be > willing to answer any questions (hint, hint ;-)) > > http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/01/book-review-fedora-7-unleashed/ > > "The Linux community has a consistent influx of new users and curious > onlookers who have the desire to know more. A consumer-oriented, > one-stop shop might get them there faster than the community would, > with its plethora of websites and arcane knowledge passed down though > stories on cryptic mailing lists. So to keep current, these books keep > coming. And if you?re new, it could be your first step into a bigger > world." > > Rahul > Very interesting, I wonder when will be available down here, being that Fedora 7 is nearing its "replacement" date with the imminent release of Fedora 8... From hudsonman35 at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 01:44:41 2007 From: hudsonman35 at gmail.com (Markus McLaughlin) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:44:41 -0500 Subject: Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 41, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <20071104170006.D79FE731B7@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20071104170006.D79FE731B7@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: We should hook up with Future Publishing and have a Getting Started Guide Magazine on Newsstands all over USA and Canada with Fedora 8! Comments, Questions about that? Mark McLaughlin (linuxglobe.wordpress.com) From devrim at CommandPrompt.com Mon Nov 5 06:47:16 2007 From: devrim at CommandPrompt.com (Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?=) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:47:16 -0800 Subject: Flyer to spread In-Reply-To: <472B44DC.9070105@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> <1193992511.2998.4.camel@laptop.gunduz.org> <472B44DC.9070105@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1194245236.18337.7.camel@laptop.gunduz.org> Hi, On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 21:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Good work. Posted to local lists and also blogged it. > ^^^^^^^^^^ > Might want to get your blog into Planet Fedora. Refer > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet I was thinking of that for a few days -- Thanks, sent an e-mail. Regards, -- Devrim G?ND?Z PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, ODBCng - http://www.commandprompt.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Mon Nov 5 10:04:18 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:04:18 +0900 Subject: Fedora Linux Rave Message-ID: <1194257058.3553.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> "Today just for grins, I loaded a computer with Fedora Linux 7 and was very pleasantly surprised. Except for a very minor issue with my Network Card (NIC), it just plain installed and worked!" http://www.americandaily.com/article/20822 http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_Linux_Rave Cheers, Marc From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Nov 5 10:24:33 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:24:33 +0100 Subject: Fedora Linux Rave In-Reply-To: <1194257058.3553.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1194257058.3553.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <472EEF61.9050602@kanarip.com> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > "Except for a very minor issue with my Network Card (NIC), it just plain > installed and worked!" > Let me guess, he had a broadcom? ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Nov 5 16:09:07 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:09:07 -0200 Subject: Brazilian DVD ArtWork Message-ID: <472F4023.6030400@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 File: http://www.jaymeayres.com/arquivos/f8dvd.jpg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHL0AjPg3HAC1vlg4RAgSsAJ40xDZcCbee/oZPthWIGvgSu7mE+wCeI9w9 H1KK6SHnnaKrf3JE9j89F5Y= =2DG6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Nov 5 16:27:19 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:27:19 +0200 Subject: Brazilian DVD ArtWork In-Reply-To: <472F4023.6030400@projetofedora.org> References: <472F4023.6030400@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <472F4467.4040804@nicubunu.ro> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > File: > > http://www.jaymeayres.com/arquivos/f8dvd.jpg This is nice, good work. In the future do you want to share the sources too? Maybe some would like it and want to use but need a version localized in their own language. Or others like to apply the FOSS principles to artwork and free culture. Also, the guy who made it may want to join our Art Team, he will be warmly welcomed. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 5 18:31:41 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:01:41 +0530 Subject: Count Down to Fedora 8 Message-ID: <472F618D.4030509@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://digg.com/linux_unix/Countdown_Begins_Fedora_8_On_it_s_Way_Tons_of_Features_You_Can_t_Miss Rahul From ben.lewis at benl.co.uk Mon Nov 5 20:18:30 2007 From: ben.lewis at benl.co.uk (Benjamin Lewis) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:18:30 +0000 Subject: Count Down to Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <472F618D.4030509@fedoraproject.org> References: <472F618D.4030509@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200711052018.37675.ben.lewis@benl.co.uk> On Monday 05 November 2007 06:31:41 pm Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Countdown_Begins_Fedora_8_On_it_s_Way_Tons_of_Fe >atures_You_Can_t_Miss > > Rahul Sorry for the shameless self plug for my latest creation: You could track the digg rate (i.e. how many diggs per minute) here http://diggometer.benl.co.uk/?mode=Tabular;input=4028619 and get a nice pretty graph of the same: http://diggometer.benl.co.uk/?mode=Graph;input=4028619 Very off topic i know... -- Benjamin Lewis Fedora Ambassador ben.lewis at benl.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://benl.co.uk./ PGP Key: 0x647E480C "In cases of major discrepancy, it is always reality that got it wrong" -- RFC 1118 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Marc From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 03:26:03 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:56:03 +0530 Subject: Flyer to spread In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0711020047l5c10d3a9m90eb56221d6271f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <472FDECB.6040506@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello there, > > Here is a flyer for Fedora Electronic Lab (8 pages) describing all its features. > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-flyer8.pdf > > Feel free to send a copy to your friends. > > > I don't know whether it might be useful to anyone. I've made an > abstract for my university and laboratory where I showed our progress > and the actual benefits, FEL could give. > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-abstract.pdf You should upload the source files somewhere. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 03:27:52 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:57:52 +0530 Subject: Release Summary In-Reply-To: <472DF5C1.20706@gmail.com> References: <1194173905.8351.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1194176081.2631.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <472DF5C1.20706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <472FDF38.7080408@fedoraproject.org> Michael Beckwith wrote: > Let me know when all the desired info is done and I'll PDF it. Phew! This is mostly done now. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary You could start working on it now. We can copy over any minor edits left over. Let me know when you have something to show. Thanks. Rahul From poelstra at redhat.com Tue Nov 6 06:57:28 2007 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:57:28 -0800 Subject: give fedorapeople.org and other parts of fedora some press Message-ID: <47301058.1020609@redhat.com> The ReleaseSummary page is great! The screenshots really add a lot and make the page interesting. How about bragging about the new fedorapoeple infrastructure and how this distinguishes Fedora from other projects at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary ? Also talk about other improvements to our processes and infrastructure project wide? What about expanding the Release Summary to talk about changes across the Fedora project... not just what is new with the bits? There are a lot other things project wide we could trumpet as well--the art process, docs improvements, infrastructure, release engineering, etc. It could even be a short summary from each group of what they accomplished during the F8 cycle. If we are going to get press attention on release day on this page... why give the press more things to write about and more insight into all the great things Fedora is doing in one central page? And... I realize some in particular are likely to suggest that I do it all myself because "that is how all this works, etc., etc., etc." :) I am not able to do it at this time. So if what I am suggesting is is not possible I understand. If we planned some of this in advance we could create a serious drum beat with the press and news outlets for F9--Red Hat Communication said they would help, but need lead time. This makes me think it would be a good thing to put on a schedule to remind ourselves to do in advance ;-) I am able to help with that. John From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Tue Nov 6 07:56:58 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:56:58 +0900 Subject: give fedorapeople.org and other parts of fedora some press In-Reply-To: <47301058.1020609@redhat.com> References: <47301058.1020609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1194335818.3903.6.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> +1 Cheers, Marc On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 22:57 -0800, John Poelstra wrote: > The ReleaseSummary page is great! The screenshots really add a lot and > make the page interesting. > > How about bragging about the new fedorapoeple infrastructure and how > this distinguishes Fedora from other projects at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary ? Also talk > about other improvements to our processes and infrastructure project wide? > > What about expanding the Release Summary to talk about changes across > the Fedora project... not just what is new with the bits? There are a > lot other things project wide we could trumpet as well--the art process, > docs improvements, infrastructure, release engineering, etc. It could > even be a short summary from each group of what they accomplished during > the F8 cycle. > > If we are going to get press attention on release day on this page... > why give the press more things to write about and more insight into all > the great things Fedora is doing in one central page? > > And... I realize some in particular are likely to suggest that I do it > all myself because "that is how all this works, etc., etc., etc." :) I > am not able to do it at this time. So if what I am suggesting is is not > possible I understand. > > If we planned some of this in advance we could create a serious drum > beat with the press and news outlets for F9--Red Hat Communication said > they would help, but need lead time. This makes me think it would be a > good thing to put on a schedule to remind ourselves to do in advance ;-) > I am able to help with that. > > John > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 20:33:45 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:03:45 +0530 Subject: The unabated development of Fedora Linux Message-ID: <4730CFA9.50100@fedoraproject.org> Hi, A older look at Fedora which has now been updated to cover recent releases including Fedora 8 after a little prodding from me. There is another separate review planned too. http://linux-noob.com/review/fedora/development/ "Well by now you are hopefully either downloading Werewolf or using it. The dust has hardly settled on the release of WereWolf and even so, Fedora's development is continuing with tremendous force, the plans, seeds and ideas for Fedora 9 (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList) are already being put in place. I'm quite sure that Fedoras' competitors must wonder what tricks are left up Fedoras' seemingly endless sleeves, and my guess is 'many'." Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 20:41:28 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:11:28 +0530 Subject: The unabated development of Fedora Linux In-Reply-To: <4730CFA9.50100@fedoraproject.org> References: <4730CFA9.50100@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4730D178.1010002@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hi, > > A older look at Fedora which has now been updated to cover recent > releases including Fedora 8 after a little prodding from me. There is > another separate review planned too. > > http://linux-noob.com/review/fedora/development/ Digg it up: http://digg.com/software/The_unabated_development_of_Fedora_Linux Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 21:41:04 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:11:04 +0530 Subject: Whats New , and Whats Old - A little comparison between Ubuntu and Fedora Message-ID: <4730DF70.8070303@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Digg it: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Whats_New_and_Whats_Old_A_little_comparison_between_Ubuntu_and_Fedora http://blog.kagesenshi.org/2007/10/whats-new-and-whats-old-little.html "Ubuntu 7.10 'Gutsy Gibbon' was just released a few days ago, and Fedora 8 just hit devel-freeze yesterday. With all the hype going all over the internet, one point annoys me - when some Ubuntu users claiming that some of the new features in Ubuntu are something Fedora does not have. Now, lets bust this myth." Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 21:44:53 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:14:53 +0530 Subject: Count Down to Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <200711052018.37675.ben.lewis@benl.co.uk> References: <472F618D.4030509@fedoraproject.org> <200711052018.37675.ben.lewis@benl.co.uk> Message-ID: <4730E055.5080008@fedoraproject.org> Benjamin Lewis wrote: > On Monday 05 November 2007 06:31:41 pm Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Hi >> >> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Countdown_Begins_Fedora_8_On_it_s_Way_Tons_of_Fe >> atures_You_Can_t_Miss >> >> Rahul > > Sorry for the shameless self plug for my latest creation: > > You could track the digg rate (i.e. how many diggs per minute) here > http://diggometer.benl.co.uk/?mode=Tabular;input=4028619 > > and get a nice pretty graph of the same: > http://diggometer.benl.co.uk/?mode=Graph;input=4028619 > > Very off topic i know... This is very very interesting. Thanks for letting us know. Rahul From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Tue Nov 6 22:12:44 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:12:44 +0900 Subject: The unabated development of Fedora Linux In-Reply-To: <4730D178.1010002@fedoraproject.org> References: <4730CFA9.50100@fedoraproject.org> <4730D178.1010002@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1194387164.12773.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 02:11 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > A older look at Fedora which has now been updated to cover recent > > releases including Fedora 8 after a little prodding from me. There is > > another separate review planned too. > > > > http://linux-noob.com/review/fedora/development/ > > Digg it up: > > http://digg.com/software/The_unabated_development_of_Fedora_Linux > > Rahul > Why would it be put under Software why not under linux/unix? Cheers, Marc From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 22:17:37 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:47:37 +0530 Subject: The unabated development of Fedora Linux In-Reply-To: <1194387164.12773.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <4730CFA9.50100@fedoraproject.org> <4730D178.1010002@fedoraproject.org> <1194387164.12773.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <4730E801.4080409@fedoraproject.org> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 02:11 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> A older look at Fedora which has now been updated to cover recent >>> releases including Fedora 8 after a little prodding from me. There is >>> another separate review planned too. >>> >>> http://linux-noob.com/review/fedora/development/ >> Digg it up: >> >> http://digg.com/software/The_unabated_development_of_Fedora_Linux >> >> Rahul >> > > Why would it be put under Software why not under linux/unix? That's where the original author submitted it. There isn't a way to change that other than resubmit a duplicate which I think wouldn't be worth it. Rahul From fab at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 22:31:38 2007 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:31:38 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Questions of www.silicon.de] Message-ID: <4730EB4A.6060700@fedoraproject.org> Hi all, Are we interested in such a publicity thing? Is anybody willing to do something? Regards, Fabian -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Questions of www.silicon.de Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:13:11 +0100 From: Lutz Poessneck To: Dear Fabian, I'm an editor with www.silicon.de, a leading German news service for IT-professionals, part of CNET Networks (www.cnet.com). We are planning to publish a photo gallery to deal with the topic 'What for and why I'm using Fedora'. The aim of the photo gallery is to inform our readers about Fedora and to give examples how to use it. Ideally the gallery may have such a structure: a photo of a certain Fedora-user with some information about himself (for instance: profession, employer), then some photos, indicating what for and why he uses Fedora (for instance: screenshots of his favourite Fedora-applications, screenshots of applications, which he dislikes at Windows .... or another creative image-idea), then the photo of the next Fedora-user, then photos of his favourite Fedora-applications ... and so on. To give you an example, a photo gallery on www.silicon.de looks like this: 160 years of Siemens http://www.silicon.de/enid/client_server_host/30233 Can you help me to get in contact with Fedora-users, who are willing to show their passion in a photo gallery? I'm interested in any information. If we can find many interested users, we may also publish a serial. Also: Another topic for a photo gallery would be 'The history of Fedora ' - do you know, where to get corresponding photos? Possible also: 'Fedora in use' (for instance in a project) - these photos should be up to date. If you come up with an idea for a photo gallery - you are welcome. I'm looking forward to hearing from you. With kind regards Lutz Poessneck Editor CNET Networks Germany Silicon.de Willy-Brandt-Allee 2 81829 Munich, Germany Phone: 0049-89-25 555 632 Fax: 0049-89-25 555 750 lutz.poessneck at cnet.com www.silicon.de From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Tue Nov 6 22:35:04 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:35:04 +0900 Subject: [Fwd: Questions of www.silicon.de] In-Reply-To: <4730EB4A.6060700@fedoraproject.org> References: <4730EB4A.6060700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1194388504.12773.3.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 23:31 +0100, Fabian Affolter wrote: > Hi all, > > Are we interested in such a publicity thing? Is anybody willing to do > something? > > Regards, > > Fabian > I would think this is a great idea. The more people hear about Fedora the better. I'm not to sure of the process that they require but definitely. Cheers, Marc > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Questions of www.silicon.de > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:13:11 +0100 > From: Lutz Poessneck > To: > > Dear Fabian, > > I'm an editor with www.silicon.de, a leading German news service for > IT-professionals, part of CNET Networks (www.cnet.com). > > We are planning to publish a photo gallery to deal with the topic 'What > for and why I'm using Fedora'. > > The aim of the photo gallery is to inform our readers about Fedora and > to give examples how to use it. > > Ideally the gallery may have such a structure: a photo of a certain > Fedora-user with some information about himself (for instance: > profession, employer), then some photos, indicating what for and why he > uses Fedora (for instance: screenshots of his favourite > Fedora-applications, screenshots of applications, which he dislikes at > Windows .... or another creative image-idea), then the photo of the next > Fedora-user, then photos of his favourite Fedora-applications ... and so > on. > > To give you an example, a photo gallery on www.silicon.de looks like > this: > > 160 years of Siemens > http://www.silicon.de/enid/client_server_host/30233 > > Can you help me to get in contact with Fedora-users, who are willing to > show their passion in a photo gallery? > > I'm interested in any information. If we can find many interested users, > we may also publish a serial. > > Also: Another topic for a photo gallery would be 'The history of Fedora > ' - do you know, where to get corresponding photos? > > Possible also: 'Fedora in use' (for instance in a project) - these > photos should be up to date. > > > If you come up with an idea for a photo gallery - you are welcome. > > I'm looking forward to hearing from you. > > With kind regards > > Lutz Poessneck > > > Editor > CNET Networks Germany > Silicon.de > Willy-Brandt-Allee 2 > 81829 Munich, Germany > Phone: 0049-89-25 555 632 > Fax: 0049-89-25 555 750 > lutz.poessneck at cnet.com > www.silicon.de > From gdk at redhat.com Tue Nov 6 22:43:54 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:43:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fwd: Questions of www.silicon.de] In-Reply-To: <4730EB4A.6060700@fedoraproject.org> References: <4730EB4A.6060700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Fabian Affolter wrote: > Hi all, > > Are we interested in such a publicity thing? Is anybody willing to do > something? Perhaps this should make its way onto fedora-announce-list or something. --g > Regards, > > Fabian > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Questions of www.silicon.de > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:13:11 +0100 > From: Lutz Poessneck > To: > > Dear Fabian, > > I'm an editor with www.silicon.de, a leading German news service for > IT-professionals, part of CNET Networks (www.cnet.com). > > We are planning to publish a photo gallery to deal with the topic 'What > for and why I'm using Fedora'. > > The aim of the photo gallery is to inform our readers about Fedora and > to give examples how to use it. > > Ideally the gallery may have such a structure: a photo of a certain > Fedora-user with some information about himself (for instance: > profession, employer), then some photos, indicating what for and why he > uses Fedora (for instance: screenshots of his favourite > Fedora-applications, screenshots of applications, which he dislikes at > Windows .... or another creative image-idea), then the photo of the next > Fedora-user, then photos of his favourite Fedora-applications ... and so > on. > > To give you an example, a photo gallery on www.silicon.de looks like > this: > > 160 years of Siemens > http://www.silicon.de/enid/client_server_host/30233 > > Can you help me to get in contact with Fedora-users, who are willing to > show their passion in a photo gallery? > > I'm interested in any information. If we can find many interested users, > we may also publish a serial. > > Also: Another topic for a photo gallery would be 'The history of Fedora > ' - do you know, where to get corresponding photos? > > Possible also: 'Fedora in use' (for instance in a project) - these > photos should be up to date. > > > If you come up with an idea for a photo gallery - you are welcome. > > I'm looking forward to hearing from you. > > With kind regards > > Lutz Poessneck > > > Editor > CNET Networks Germany > Silicon.de > Willy-Brandt-Allee 2 > 81829 Munich, Germany > Phone: 0049-89-25 555 632 > Fax: 0049-89-25 555 750 > lutz.poessneck at cnet.com > www.silicon.de > > -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 22:46:45 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:16:45 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Questions of www.silicon.de] In-Reply-To: <4730EB4A.6060700@fedoraproject.org> References: <4730EB4A.6060700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4730EED5.6090903@fedoraproject.org> Fabian Affolter wrote: > > Also: Another topic for a photo gallery would be 'The history of Fedora > ' - do you know, where to get corresponding photos? This one can reuse wikipedia content. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_(Linux_distribution) Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 23:14:03 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:44:03 +0530 Subject: give fedorapeople.org and other parts of fedora some press In-Reply-To: <47301058.1020609@redhat.com> References: <47301058.1020609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4730F53B.4000906@fedoraproject.org> John Poelstra wrote: > > And... I realize some in particular are likely to suggest that I do it > all myself because "that is how all this works, etc., etc., etc." :) I > am not able to do it at this time. So if what I am suggesting is is not > possible I understand. A list of things you had in mind specifically if anything would be helpful. I will try and write some things covering the other supportive systems of Fedora. Otherwise I can include those in a review in Red Hat magazine with more details soon. > If we planned some of this in advance we could create a serious drum > beat with the press and news outlets for F9--Red Hat Communication said > they would help, but need lead time. This makes me think it would be a > good thing to put on a schedule to remind ourselves to do in advance ;-) > I am able to help with that. That would be useful. Meanwhile I did some work on the feature list to give you a headstart. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 7 00:00:27 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 01:00:27 +0100 Subject: spins.fpo design In-Reply-To: <4729DD86.80404@redhat.com> References: <4729760C.8020507@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0711010509y6958a4fj4fa7f255db5d7b02@mail.gmail.com> <4729D63B.3070301@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0711010704x2917698i8426875f7056687b@mail.gmail.com> <4729DD86.80404@redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0711061600j5d3d96b8mc2fa5e22ad6d1a9b@mail.gmail.com> On 11/1/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Ah okay, what I can do them is merge your content into the stuff I'm > doing to get a final polished version and fix some of the css differences. Ok, finally I got all the (final bits) FEL contents + screenshots on http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ . --------- Featured Applications The Fedora Electronic Laboratory includes design tools for: * Digital Simulation * VLSI Layout and Verification * RTL and logic synthesis design flows * Circuit Simulation * PCB Layout and Circuit Design * Micro Controller (?C) Programming and Embedded Systems Development -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 7 02:56:47 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:26:47 +0530 Subject: Red Hat signs on to Sun's open-source Java project Message-ID: <4731296F.4030802@fedoraproject.org> Hi, http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/11/05/red-hat-helps-advance-open-source-java/ http://www.linuxworld.com.au/pp.php?id=1682397900&fp=2;fpid=1 "Red Hat has signed Sun's OpenJDK contributor agreement and will now align the work its done on its IcedTea project, which was its own implementation of some parts of the Java SE JDK, with OpenSDK, said Shaun Connolly, vice president of product management for JBoss. IcedTea brought together the Fedora project with key Java technologies in a Linux environment, and currently provides open-source alternatives for the few remaining proprietary sections in the OpenJDK project, he said. Fedora is a Red-Hat sponsored Linux project." Rahul From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Wed Nov 7 03:28:09 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:28:09 +0900 Subject: Red Hat signs on to Sun's open-source Java project In-Reply-To: <4731296F.4030802@fedoraproject.org> References: <4731296F.4030802@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1194406089.18296.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 08:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/11/05/red-hat-helps-advance-open-source-java/ > > http://www.linuxworld.com.au/pp.php?id=1682397900&fp=2;fpid=1 > > "Red Hat has signed Sun's OpenJDK contributor agreement and will now > align the work its done on its IcedTea project, which was its own > implementation of some parts of the Java SE JDK, with OpenSDK, said > Shaun Connolly, vice president of product management for JBoss. > > IcedTea brought together the Fedora project with key Java technologies > in a Linux environment, and currently provides open-source alternatives > for the few remaining proprietary sections in the OpenJDK project, he > said. Fedora is a Red-Hat sponsored Linux project." > > Rahul > Some more here and it's on digg as well. http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15220/ http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_signs_on_for_open_source_Java_development Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Wed Nov 7 03:29:36 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:29:36 +0900 Subject: Fedora 9 Features List Unveiled Message-ID: <1194406176.18296.2.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> http://paulsdigitalworld.wordpress.com/2007/11/06/fedora-9-features-list-unveiled/ "I?m not kidding. Yeah, fedora 8 dawning upon us but fedora 9 is being conceived. Let?s make some comments and help. This is my first class at the features list, I?ll probably go deeper into it. New GNOME Display Manager Much enhanced rewrite of GNOME Display Manager This is kind of nice. In each new release, fedora updates the GNOME desktop and makes it better. But what?s going to happen with KDE? Fedora seems to have a intimate relation with GNOME. But I hope the fedora team keeps themselvs away from the fire that one OS has one desktop and that?s it. Fedora should always offer the best variety." http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/fedora_9_feature_list_3 Enjoy Marc From poelstra at redhat.com Wed Nov 7 06:17:02 2007 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:17:02 -0800 Subject: give fedorapeople.org and other parts of fedora some press In-Reply-To: <4730F53B.4000906@fedoraproject.org> References: <47301058.1020609@redhat.com> <4730F53B.4000906@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4731585E.8070908@redhat.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > John Poelstra wrote: > >> >> And... I realize some in particular are likely to suggest that I do it >> all myself because "that is how all this works, etc., etc., etc." :) >> I am not able to do it at this time. So if what I am suggesting is is >> not possible I understand. > > A list of things you had in mind specifically if anything would be > helpful. I will try and write some things covering the other supportive > systems of Fedora. Otherwise I can include those in a review in Red Hat > magazine with more details soon. Thanks. I mentioned them above. >> If we planned some of this in advance we could create a serious drum >> beat with the press and news outlets for F9--Red Hat Communication >> said they would help, but need lead time. This makes me think it >> would be a good thing to put on a schedule to remind ourselves to do >> in advance ;-) I am able to help with that. > > That would be useful. Meanwhile I did some work on the feature list to > give you a headstart. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList Thanks! We have to be careful with this page though... a "proposed" feature is one that the feature owner has brought forward as seeking approval. Already a few are creeping on that are just ideas at this point. CategoryProposedFedora9 is being used a little too liberally, but that is okay for now. Also there are features listed there that don't have a feature page behind them. I think it is better to just make a simple table of features we are thinking about for F9 and remove the % completion and status columns... we are trying to use this page for too many purposes and we don't track status on unapproved features. Once F9 kicks off I'd like to trim the page back to only list the approved features before it gets too long. I do agree that it is a really good to have those features there so people can start to see what we are thinking about for F9. John From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 7 06:27:09 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:57:09 +0530 Subject: give fedorapeople.org and other parts of fedora some press In-Reply-To: <4731585E.8070908@redhat.com> References: <47301058.1020609@redhat.com> <4730F53B.4000906@fedoraproject.org> <4731585E.8070908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47315ABD.7080407@fedoraproject.org> John Poelstra wrote: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList > > Thanks! We have to be careful with this page though... a "proposed" > feature is one that the feature owner has brought forward as seeking > approval. Already a few are creeping on that are just ideas at this > point. Good to get some eyes on those for marketing reasons. CategoryProposedFedora9 is being used a little too liberally, > but that is okay for now. Also there are features listed there that > don't have a feature page behind them. /me points finger to Max Spevack ;-) > I think it is better to just make a simple table of features we are > thinking about for F9 and remove the % completion and status columns... > we are trying to use this page for too many purposes and we don't track > status on unapproved features. > > Once F9 kicks off I'd like to trim the page back to only list the > approved features before it gets too long. I do agree that it is a > really good to have those features there so people can start to see what > we are thinking about for F9. Precisely. Rahul From affix at ihack.co.uk Wed Nov 7 11:49:14 2007 From: affix at ihack.co.uk (Keiran Smith) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:49:14 +0000 Subject: give fedorapeople.org and other parts of fedora some press In-Reply-To: <47315ABD.7080407@fedoraproject.org> References: <47301058.1020609@redhat.com> <4730F53B.4000906@fedoraproject.org> <4731585E.8070908@redhat.com> <47315ABD.7080407@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Rahul I have it in PDF Format and I will be able to send you it if you desire. Just send an email to affix at FedoraProject.org and I will send it to you. On 11/7/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > John Poelstra wrote: > > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList > > > > Thanks! We have to be careful with this page though... a "proposed" > > feature is one that the feature owner has brought forward as seeking > > approval. Already a few are creeping on that are just ideas at this > > point. > > Good to get some eyes on those for marketing reasons. > > CategoryProposedFedora9 is being used a little too liberally, > > but that is okay for now. Also there are features listed there that > > don't have a feature page behind them. > > /me points finger to Max Spevack ;-) > > > I think it is better to just make a simple table of features we are > > thinking about for F9 and remove the % completion and status columns... > > we are trying to use this page for too many purposes and we don't track > > status on unapproved features. > > > > Once F9 kicks off I'd like to trim the page back to only list the > > approved features before it gets too long. I do agree that it is a > > really good to have those features there so people can start to see what > > we are thinking about for F9. > > Precisely. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 7 13:22:11 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:52:11 +0530 Subject: give fedorapeople.org and other parts of fedora some press In-Reply-To: References: <47301058.1020609@redhat.com> <4730F53B.4000906@fedoraproject.org> <4731585E.8070908@redhat.com> <47315ABD.7080407@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4731BC03.5060302@fedoraproject.org> Keiran Smith wrote: > Rahul I have it in PDF Format and I will be able to send you it if you > desire. Just send an email to affix at FedoraProject.org > and I will send it to you. Done. Rahul From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed Nov 7 15:23:59 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:23:59 -0200 Subject: Fedora 8 Message-ID: <4731D88F.3090009@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is the official Fedora 8 release ?? http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/ Rodrigo Padula -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHMdiLPg3HAC1vlg4RAsU6AJ9cGaPjb+l1lFWRpIAtBwow7P8P7QCgnirS xmVhubUe6ADR2k/Y7rWbkkM= =1Bln -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in Wed Nov 7 15:29:42 2007 From: sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in (Sudheer Satyanarayana) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:59:42 +0530 Subject: Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <4731D88F.3090009@projetofedora.org> References: <4731D88F.3090009@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <4731D9E6.5080001@binaryvibes.co.in> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > This is the official Fedora 8 release ?? > > http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/ > > http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en_US.html The link suggests it is not, doesn't it? > Rodrigo Padula > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFHMdiLPg3HAC1vlg4RAsU6AJ9cGaPjb+l1lFWRpIAtBwow7P8P7QCgnirS > xmVhubUe6ADR2k/Y7rWbkkM= > =1Bln > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- With Warm Regards, Sudheer. S http://www.binaryvibes.co.in From affix at FedoraProject.org Wed Nov 7 16:13:38 2007 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 16:13:38 +0000 Subject: Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <4731D9E6.5080001@binaryvibes.co.in> References: <4731D88F.3090009@projetofedora.org> <4731D9E6.5080001@binaryvibes.co.in> Message-ID: I assume it is I mean they got alot of uploading to do for the 8th On 11/7/07, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote: > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > This is the official Fedora 8 release ?? > > > > http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/ > > > > > > http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en_US.html > The link suggests it is not, doesn't it? > > Rodrigo Padula > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFHMdiLPg3HAC1vlg4RAsU6AJ9cGaPjb+l1lFWRpIAtBwow7P8P7QCgnirS > > xmVhubUe6ADR2k/Y7rWbkkM= > > =1Bln > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > -- > With Warm Regards, > Sudheer. S > http://www.binaryvibes.co.in > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neugens at limasoftware.net Wed Nov 7 16:39:28 2007 From: neugens at limasoftware.net (Mario Torre) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:39:28 +0100 Subject: Red Hat signs on to Sun's open-source Java project In-Reply-To: <1194406089.18296.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <4731296F.4030802@fedoraproject.org> <1194406089.18296.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <1194453568.3219.4.camel@nirvana.limasoftware.net> Il giorno mer, 07/11/2007 alle 12.28 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra ha scritto: > > Some more here and it's on digg as well. > And I would suggests to read the blogs from the people involved: http://blogs.sun.com/tmarble/entry/red_hat_and_openjdk http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/red_hat_joins_openjdk http://blogs.sun.com/barton808/entry/red_hat_joins_the_free http://blogs.sun.com/mr/entry/rht_java http://blogs.sun.com/rsands/entry/red_hat_shows_the_way http://spindazzle.org/greenblog/index.php?/archives/78-coopetition.html http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/2007/11/05/friends/ http://robilad.livejournal.com/21185.html And in generale other comments on the http://planet.classpath.org website :) Mario -- Lima Software - http://www.limasoftware.net/ GNU Classpath Developer - http://www.classpath.org/ Fedora Ambassador - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MarioTorre Jabber: neugens at jabber.org pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF Please, support open standards: http://opendocumentfellowship.org/petition/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Presentation and colors and whatnot are set to be 2nd in line after I get content placed. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From cnegus at rucls.net Wed Nov 7 18:35:33 2007 From: cnegus at rucls.net (Chris Negus) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:35:33 -0600 Subject: F8 Features PDF 11-6 Mockup In-Reply-To: <4731EB89.5040305@gmail.com> References: <4731EB89.5040305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1194460534.31404.203.camel@einstein> On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 11:44 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/11-6-evening.pdf > > Any thoughts and suggestions will be appreciated. Presentation and colors and whatnot are set to be 2nd in line after I get content placed. I have a question about this statement regarding IcedTea: Java applets are supported out of the box in a secure manner on both x86 and x86_ 64 architectures, thanks to the integration of an improved gcjwebplugin. The README.libgcjwebplugin.so file (/usr/share/doc/libgcj-*) says gcjwebplugin may not be particularly secure and is not enabled by default. Can someone comment on this? Also, although it's not that hard to enable it, it seems like it might be hard for someone to know where to look for the plug-in. -- Chris Negus From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 7 18:37:15 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:07:15 +0530 Subject: F8 Features PDF 11-6 Mockup In-Reply-To: <1194460534.31404.203.camel@einstein> References: <4731EB89.5040305@gmail.com> <1194460534.31404.203.camel@einstein> Message-ID: <473205DB.3070702@fedoraproject.org> Chris Negus wrote: > On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 11:44 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: >> http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/11-6-evening.pdf >> >> Any thoughts and suggestions will be appreciated. Presentation and colors and whatnot are set to be 2nd in line after I get content placed. > > I have a question about this statement regarding IcedTea: > > Java applets are supported out of the box in a secure manner on both > x86 and x86_ 64 architectures, thanks to the integration of an > improved gcjwebplugin. > > The README.libgcjwebplugin.so file (/usr/share/doc/libgcj-*) says > gcjwebplugin may not be particularly secure and is not enabled by > default. Can someone comment on this? Also, although it's not that hard > to enable it, it seems like it might be hard for someone to know where > to look for the plug-in. The README file is outdated with information from the previous release. Someone file a bug report? The gcjwebplugin in Fedora 8 takes advantage of IcedTea (you get security there since it is OpenJDK with the binary encumbrances removed) and it is enabled by default. Since it is GCJ based you also get support for x86_64 architecture which is unique. For other architectures like PPC where IcedTea/OpenJDK hasn't been ported to yet properly, we still use GCJ by default. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 7 22:06:17 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:36:17 +0530 Subject: Red Hat legal speaks Message-ID: <473236D9.2030807@fedoraproject.org> Hi, The question on DMCA and iPod's and linking to third party repositories has been answered and we indeed can now do that if we wanted to, with some caveats. Can't use this as a alternative source for codecs in codec buddy in a direct way but getting this clarification does help. Thanks to Spot for running my questions through Red Hat Legal. http://lwn.net/Articles/257559/rss "The Fedora advisory board has just been updated on a couple of conclusions reached by the Red Hat legal department. It has been determined that support for current iPod devices can be provided by Fedora - getting around Apple's obfuscation is not seen as a DMCA violation. The rules on linking to encumbered software have also been loosened" Rahul From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Wed Nov 7 22:22:54 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:22:54 +0900 Subject: Red Hat legal speaks In-Reply-To: <473236D9.2030807@fedoraproject.org> References: <473236D9.2030807@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1194474174.3498.8.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 03:36 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > The question on DMCA and iPod's and linking to third party repositories > has been answered and we indeed can now do that if we wanted to, with > some caveats. Can't use this as a alternative source for codecs in codec > buddy in a direct way but getting this clarification does help. Thanks > to Spot for running my questions through Red Hat Legal. > > http://lwn.net/Articles/257559/rss > > "The Fedora advisory board has just been updated on a couple of > conclusions reached by the Red Hat legal department. It has been > determined that support for current iPod devices can be provided by > Fedora - getting around Apple's obfuscation is not seen as a DMCA > violation. The rules on linking to encumbered software have also been > loosened" > > Rahul > Dig.... http://digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_Legal_Speaks_about_MP3_s Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Wed Nov 7 22:28:13 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:28:13 +0900 Subject: Can Red Hat ever make open source advocates happy? Message-ID: <1194474494.3498.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=1648 "Red Hat has joined Sun?s OpenJDK project, aligning its IcedTea project with it. (Should that now be IcedCoffee?) The reaction of open source bloggers to this news? Finally, wrote our own Stephen Shankland. What was the hold-up, asked EnterpriseLinux. What took you, asked Business Review Online." Interesting article. Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Wed Nov 7 23:36:58 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:36:58 +0900 Subject: Max Spevack speaks about the release Message-ID: <1194478618.3498.17.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2007-November/msg00003.html "On Thursday November 8th (about 3:00 PM GMT), Fedora 8 will go live to the world, and you will be able to download it at http://fedoraproject.org. The bits are all finalized, the mirrors are synced, and the torrents are primed. But until we flip the switch, you will have to tide yourself over with this -- my personal Fedora 8 release announcement. Fortunately, it's pretty long, so if you read it all, Fedora 8 might be released by the time you have finished!" Already up on Digg.... http://digg.com/linux_unix/Max_Spevack_s_Fedora_8_pre_release_announcement Cheers, Marc From ben.lewis at benl.co.uk Thu Nov 8 00:12:11 2007 From: ben.lewis at benl.co.uk (Benjamin Lewis) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 00:12:11 +0000 Subject: Max Spevack speaks about the release In-Reply-To: <1194478618.3498.17.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194478618.3498.17.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <200711080012.17190.ben.lewis@benl.co.uk> On Wednesday 07 November 2007 11:36:58 pm Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2007-November/msg00003. >html > [snip] > > Already up on Digg.... > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Max_Spevack_s_Fedora_8_pre_release_announcement > > Cheers, > > Marc Diggometer metrics here: http://diggometer.benl.co.uk/?mode=Tabular;input=4062775 FYI, the metrics look a bit silly until the cron job starts monitoring the story when it becomes popular. -- Benjamin Lewis Fedora Ambassador ben.lewis at benl.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://benl.co.uk./ PGP Key: 0x647E480C "In cases of major discrepancy, it is always reality that got it wrong" -- RFC 1118 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Some notes that I have that I have seen is: -a need to seperate some of the feature paragraphs with a line or some sort of visual blockage so people know where to stop. -locate where "word divisions" is so that the justification of the text doesn't string out so much of the words in some areas. -decorate and also fill the 9th page with technical information. -find some image to use on the 1st page at the top. A header is needed. latest PDF: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/11-7.pdf tarball with all files: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/F8-Press-Release.tar.gz -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Thu Nov 8 00:37:24 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:37:24 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 PDF. In-Reply-To: <4732485F.1040901@gmail.com> References: <4732485F.1040901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1194482244.27158.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 18:21 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > This is a mass preliminary e-mail to three mailing lists. > > What I have done so far with the marketing PDF is get the content and > images laid out and desiring feedback for it at this stage. After I get > some technical critique and suggestions, I'll go ahead and work on > visual presentation. > > Some notes that I have that I have seen is: > > -a need to seperate some of the feature paragraphs with a line or some > sort of visual blockage so people know where to stop. > -locate where "word divisions" is so that the justification of the text > doesn't string out so much of the words in some areas. > -decorate and also fill the 9th page with technical information. > -find some image to use on the 1st page at the top. A header is needed. > > latest PDF: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/11-7.pdf > tarball with all files: > http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/F8-Press-Release.tar.gz > I agree with your points above but I would add a picture of a few more bits. Like eclipse. Maybe around the pictures but extra spaces and put a subtitle under each one. Cheers, Marc From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 01:18:44 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 09:18:44 +0800 Subject: Red Hat legal speaks In-Reply-To: <1194474174.3498.8.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <473236D9.2030807@fedoraproject.org> <1194474174.3498.8.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: On 11/8/07, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 03:36 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The question on DMCA and iPod's and linking to third party repositories > > has been answered and we indeed can now do that if we wanted to, with > > some caveats. Can't use this as a alternative source for codecs in codec > > buddy in a direct way but getting this clarification does help. Thanks > > to Spot for running my questions through Red Hat Legal. > > > > http://lwn.net/Articles/257559/rss > > > > "The Fedora advisory board has just been updated on a couple of > > conclusions reached by the Red Hat legal department. It has been > > determined that support for current iPod devices can be provided by > > Fedora - getting around Apple's obfuscation is not seen as a DMCA > > violation. The rules on linking to encumbered software have also been > > loosened" > > > > Rahul > > > > Dig.... http://digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_Legal_Speaks_about_MP3_s > > Marc > hooray! -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From fzied at dottn.com Thu Nov 8 10:17:58 2007 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:17:58 +0100 Subject: Red Hat legal speaks In-Reply-To: References: <473236D9.2030807@fedoraproject.org> <1194474174.3498.8.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: Yeah ! On Nov 8, 2007 2:18 AM, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail < mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/8/07, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 03:36 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > The question on DMCA and iPod's and linking to third party > repositories > > > has been answered and we indeed can now do that if we wanted to, with > > > some caveats. Can't use this as a alternative source for codecs in > codec > > > buddy in a direct way but getting this clarification does help. Thanks > > > to Spot for running my questions through Red Hat Legal. > > > > > > http://lwn.net/Articles/257559/rss > > > > > > "The Fedora advisory board has just been updated on a couple of > > > conclusions reached by the Red Hat legal department. It has been > > > determined that support for current iPod devices can be provided by > > > Fedora - getting around Apple's obfuscation is not seen as a DMCA > > > violation. The rules on linking to encumbered software have also been > > > loosened" > > > > > > Rahul > > > > > > > Dig.... http://digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_Legal_Speaks_about_MP3_s > > > > Marc > > > > hooray! > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru > ??? ???? ???? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 | Tel : +216 71 886112 El Manar II | Fax : +216 71 885499 2092 - Tunis | mob : +216 22 535604 Tunisia | web : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best wishes, Jon From pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr Thu Nov 8 16:17:51 2007 From: pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr (pingou) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:17:51 +0100 Subject: Fedora 8 Announce Message-ID: <473336AF.3060409@yahoo.fr> Dear list, For every release the french team is used to write a small announce for the Fedora user to be published on websites. We have decided to translate the announce in english so that those that would like to present Fedora 8 on their blog or on other website could do it quit easily. The translation is far from perfect, so I would advice you to have a look at it and to correct what needs to be. Hope it helps, Best regards, P.Yves The announce is past as text here and attached as .odt with this email ====================================================================== Announce Fedora 8 On this autumn period where the best fruit are matured, it comes the time to harvest the new Fedora release. This new Fedora is named ?WereWolf?, but do not be afraid this release will bring you all the safety and stability that you could dream of. The main point of this new version is without any doubt SIMPLICITY After 5 months of intense work, and in order to provide you the latest technologies, this new release will be for you as for us a major evolution. The major new features are (among others): Codek Buddy (aka codeina) : By default Fedora does not provide non free codecs. This is sometime a problem for the end users who has to install them on their own. This is the reason why Codec Buddy has been created. This tool is able to help you to install the required codecs to helps you to listen to your MP3 or watch your movies, in a very simple way. PulseAudio: (NTBR) Fedora 8 provides the last generation of sound server. The goal is to offer to the music fan a great improvement to the support of low latency. The new technology opens the gate to new functionalities like decrease automatically the volume of the noise when you are watching a movie. System-config-firewall : This new interface is much more accessible for the new Fedora users. It is a very intuitive interface thanks to its step by step configuration. System-config-selinux : Nowadays, the configuration of SELinux is distinct from the one of the firewall, in a new user friendly interface. System-config-printer : (NTBR) The printer configuration system has also been changed. During the installation, it will now create automatically the printing queue, this is the end of the steps where so much users has failed on the past. NetworkManager 0.7 : Entirely rewritten in order to satisfy to the wired and wireless network, giving a higher speed of connection and a better integration (thanks among other to the Dbus API and the WPA for the wireless). Better laptop support : Thanks to the information returned by ?smolt? the Fedora team has improved the management of the Suspend to Ram and Suspend to Disk system, and the recognition of the multimedia keys on the keyboard. Package management : Pirut (a GUI for yum, the package manager) has been updated in order to meet the users' demand. It is now able to manage directly the repositories from this GUI, simplifying a lot the work of new users. Fedora 8's theme : For each new Fedora release a new theme is created. For Fedora 8, the icons, the windows' border have also been changed to fit the theme. This project is named ?Nodoka?. The desktop background is named ?Infinity?. You could say, ?yes, well it is just a new desktop background?, however the main innovation for this background is that it changes over the day, from the blue in the morning to a relax and peacefull purple on the evening. Virtualization : Virtualization is an important part that more and more people use, within this new release, virtualization has also evolved. The safety has been greatly improved thanks to a new library that allows you to use the SSL/TLS protocol to secure your access. The other modifications are on the graphical interface of virt-manager, more user friendly and providing the last functionalities. FEL (Fedora Electronic Lab) : This new product made in Fedora has been created by the SIG (Special Interest Group) ?embedded?. This project try to implement as much applications as possible. This software and tools are focus on a electronic theme in order to provide a live-cd to universities. For the developers, we did not forget that the last version of eclipse 3.3 is available for Fedora. This new version provides a lot of new functions: JDT : for Java development. CDT : Editor, builder and debugger for C and C++. Autotools : plugin for CDT to support autoconf, and automake (among others). Mylyn : first interface that allows the developers to request the Bugzilla's database. PHPEclipse : plugin for PHP development of test. Specfile editor : plugin for the SpecFiles for RPM creation. PyDev : plugin for Python ... In order to get this new release, you can go to this page : http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora The Fedora ambassador, from the FedoraProject. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 8 18:06:05 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:06:05 -0800 Subject: Release Summary Final In-Reply-To: <1194523486.2546.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4732485F.1040901@gmail.com> <1194482244.27158.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> <1194523486.2546.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <369bce3b0711081006w71072c6nd5b4948329b9e8ac@mail.gmail.com> On 11/8/07, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just removed the draft tag from the top of the release summary. To > me it looked like it was in good shape, and today is release day! > > Hope this was OK with everyone, if not just revert the change and we'll > get it ready asap! > > Best wishes, > > Jon It looks very good. Thank you Jon! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From david at lovesunix.net Thu Nov 8 18:29:12 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:29:12 +0100 Subject: An old hat with new tricks: Fedora 8 officially released In-Reply-To: <47334DED.3020503@fedoraproject.org> References: <47334DED.3020503@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1194546552.2836.9.camel@dawkins> tor, 08 11 2007 kl. 23:27 +0530, skrev Rahul Sundaram: > Hi > > That just about sums it up. > > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071108-an-old-hat-with-new-tricks-fedora-8-officially-released.html > > "I've been experimenting with Fedora 8 test 3, and I like what I see. > This is a nice release with a pretty sweet assortment of features that > you won't find anywhere else. Fedora still manages to differentiate > itself and rise above many other contenders by delivering early access > to new technologies." > > Rahul And Digg.com picked it up a bit ago so unleash the digg army: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Officially_released -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The reason: Red Hat wants Fedora to be a foundation for those who want to build their own Linux products on a Fedora foundation. With Fedora 8, that's easier, because all the Fedora-specific elements are wrapped up into one neatly optional package, said project leader Max Spevack. " Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 8 20:53:05 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:23:05 +0530 Subject: Red Hat's Fedora 8 hope: An all-purpose Linux foundation In-Reply-To: <4733753D.5050805@fedoraproject.org> References: <4733753D.5050805@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47337731.7070802@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > The efforts that go into remixing Fedora including the new generic-logos > package that allows easy rebranding is being highlighted here. > > http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9813113-39.html Digg it: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_s_Fedora_8_hope_An_all_purpose_Linux_foundation Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 8 21:06:33 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:36:33 +0530 Subject: Screenshots: A peek at Red Hat's Fedora 8 Linux Message-ID: <47337A59.2050802@fedoraproject.org> Hi Nice gallery with good captions. This is how our own tours page should look like though a wiki has its limitations on formatting content. http://www.news.com/2300-1016_3-6217482.html?tag=ne.gall.latest Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Nov 8 22:07:57 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 17:07:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: CustomSpins page Message-ID: If someone has time to update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CustomSpins to feature the F8 stuff first, and the F7 stuff as now being secondary, that would be awesome. We've got Fedora Unity's CD set, etc. etc. Thanks guys -- congrats on the release! Best, Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Thu Nov 8 22:26:45 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:26:45 +0100 Subject: Fedora 8 CD Sets Released Message-ID: <47338D25.3050301@kanarip.com> Fedora Unity has released Fedora 8 CD Sets. http://fedoraunity.org/news-archives/fedora-8-cd-sets-released http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_CD_Sets_Released To download, launch your favorite Jigdo client against: http://jigdo.fedoraunity.org/templates/Fedora-8-CD/Fedora-8-CD.jigdo Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Thu Nov 8 23:02:37 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:02:37 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 CD Sets Released In-Reply-To: <47338D25.3050301@kanarip.com> References: <47338D25.3050301@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1194562958.27158.24.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 23:26 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Fedora Unity has released Fedora 8 CD Sets. > > http://fedoraunity.org/news-archives/fedora-8-cd-sets-released > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_CD_Sets_Released > > To download, launch your favorite Jigdo client against: > > http://jigdo.fedoraunity.org/templates/Fedora-8-CD/Fedora-8-CD.jigdo > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > Nice work :) Cheers, Marc From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 9 01:30:50 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 07:00:50 +0530 Subject: CustomSpins page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4733B84A.4060608@fedoraproject.org> Max Spevack wrote: > If someone has time to update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CustomSpins > to feature the F8 stuff first, and the F7 stuff as now being secondary, > that would be awesome. > Done. Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Nov 9 01:49:34 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:49:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: osnews comments Message-ID: There's some good comments in here. http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=18900 I liked this one... ---- what people have probably missed in the last few releases is the huge amount of work on the 'infrastructure' behind fedora in order to get it to where it is today, it's clear now that that work is now showing the fruits of fruition and everything is coming together * custom spins * fedora 8 on a usb key * pulseaudio * codecbuddy * yum improvements (yes it's fast) * packagemanagement improvements (change repos and more) * gui for firewall * online desktop * the whole fedoraproject.org website and associated projects i think F9 (yes I'm talking about that already) will be awesome, as it'll most likely have compiz enabled by default plus a whole lot more, and no doubt it'll have ironed out any bugs still present or yet to be found in F8 From jaboutboul at speakeasy.net Fri Nov 9 01:41:22 2007 From: jaboutboul at speakeasy.net (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:41:22 -0500 Subject: The Evolution of Fedora Message-ID: <1194572482.13136.76.camel@deepfort> Check out this awesome site which covers everything from FC1 to F8. http://linux-noob.com/review/fedora/development Simply awesome! Jack From karlthered2 at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 10:16:52 2007 From: karlthered2 at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H._Gu=E9mar?=) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:16:52 +0100 Subject: Screenshots: A peek at Red Hat's Fedora 8 Linux In-Reply-To: <47337A59.2050802@fedoraproject.org> References: <47337A59.2050802@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Great article, they perfectly summed up FedoraProject spirit. > A peek at Red Hat's Fedora 8 Linux Argh, It's not Redhat's, it's FedoraProject's ! RedHat and community folks working hands in hands ! :o) At least, they do properly credit FedoraProject. From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 9 13:14:21 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:14:21 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 is out - Inquirer Message-ID: <1194614061.4992.7.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "RED HAT'S community-driven Linux distribution Fedora 8 has been released today and comes with a bit more eye-candy and sound gear to tart itself up. Codenamed Werewolf, Fedora Core 8 comes with the PulseAudio sound daemon, which will allow users to set the volume for each application. It can move streams between devices, redirect audio streams to other computers on the local network." http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/09/fedora Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_is_out Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 9 13:16:34 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:16:34 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 (Werewolf) Shows it's Fangs Message-ID: <1194614194.4992.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "Red Hat's Fedora today debuted a major new release that in many ways offers more than any previous version of the community Linux effort. That's because Fedora 8, codenamed "Werewolf," is actually more than just a single release of a single distribution. In addition to a myriad of new features, the release offers at least four different custom versions, or "spins" as Fedora calls them. The spins included in the Fedora 8 release offer packages targeted to specific users like developers and even game players." http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3709946 Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Werewolf_Shows_Its_Fangs Cheers, Marc From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Fri Nov 9 13:26:38 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:26:38 +0000 Subject: Fedora 8 (Werewolf) Shows it's Fangs In-Reply-To: <1194614194.4992.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194614194.4992.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <1194614798.2547.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Do we have a page on the wiki for collating press reports like this? Jon On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 22:16 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > "Red Hat's Fedora today debuted a major new release that in many ways > offers more than any previous version of the community Linux effort. > > That's because Fedora 8, codenamed "Werewolf," is actually more than > just a single release of a single distribution. In addition to a myriad > of new features, the release offers at least four different custom > versions, or "spins" as Fedora calls them. The spins included in the > Fedora 8 release offer packages targeted to specific users like > developers and even game players." > > http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3709946 > > Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Werewolf_Shows_Its_Fangs > > Cheers, > > Marc > From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 9 13:28:17 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:28:17 +0900 Subject: Werewolf: Fedora's Redeemer? Message-ID: <1194614897.4992.14.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "To those who doesn?t know, Fedora was once considered the most important and popular Linux distribution before PCLOS and Ubuntu. However, a series of unpopular releases evidently affected its excellent reputation. Even Eric S. Raymond, one of the most famous hacker and author publicly expressed his disgust with Fedora by sending the infamous ?you blew it? letter to a number of Linux-related publications and mailing lists. It certainly added insult to injury." http://junauza.blogspot.com/2007/11/werewolf-fedoras-redeemer.html Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Werewolf_Fedora_s_Redeemer Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 9 13:30:32 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:30:32 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 (Werewolf) Shows it's Fangs In-Reply-To: <1194614798.2547.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1194614194.4992.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> <1194614798.2547.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1194615032.4992.16.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:26 +0000, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Do we have a page on the wiki for collating press reports like this? > We used to? Rahul? > Jon > On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 22:16 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > "Red Hat's Fedora today debuted a major new release that in many ways > > offers more than any previous version of the community Linux effort. > > > > That's because Fedora 8, codenamed "Werewolf," is actually more than > > just a single release of a single distribution. In addition to a myriad > > of new features, the release offers at least four different custom > > versions, or "spins" as Fedora calls them. The spins included in the > > Fedora 8 release offer packages targeted to specific users like > > developers and even game players." > > > > http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3709946 > > > > Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Werewolf_Shows_Its_Fangs > > > > Cheers, > > > > Marc > > > From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 9 13:34:22 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:34:22 +0900 Subject: fedora-8-review: Lunapark 6 Message-ID: <1194615262.4992.19.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "The most disappointing aspect about the release would be its finicky installer. Sure if you have certain hardware, you may never go through the troubles I encountered, but my setup is hardly what you would call esoteric. Yet, I did have to jump through hurdles just to get the system up and running. Both of my test computers, Big Bertha (AMD 64 +3000, Nvidia 6600, 2 GB RAM, 19? Samsung 192n monitor and Soundblaster Audigy) and Mount Doona (AMD X2 +4400, 2 GB RAM, 24? Samsung 244T), were unable to install via the normal installation mode and had to use the text installation mode. Furthermore, once the main text installation was completed, the final stage (where normal users are added) were not available for me." http://lunapark6.com/fedora-8-review.html Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Review_of_Fedora_8_with_install_notes_for_Compiz_Fusion Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 9 13:37:32 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:37:32 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 Preview: Werewolf Unleashed Message-ID: <1194615452.4992.22.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "So its here .. The Werewolf unleashed and the oldest company in Linux world Red Hat has launched a new version of Fedora ..So lets take a quick view of it ?" http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/fedora-8-preview-werewolf-unleased/ Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Preview_Werewolf_Unleased Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 9 13:39:00 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:39:00 +0900 Subject: Easily Contribute to Fedora and Open Source Message-ID: <1194615540.4992.24.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "I was looking over the Fedora website today as I was downloading the just released Fedora 8 Werewolf, and noticed that they have a free media program. This is intended for people who don't have the bandwidth to download Fedora, or those who can't afford it. It can be found here." http://happylinuxthoughts.blogspot.com/2007/11/easily-contribute-to-fedora-and-open.html Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Easily_Contribute_to_Fedora_and_Open_Source Cheers, Marc From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 9 13:57:25 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:27:25 +0530 Subject: Fedora 8 (Werewolf) Shows it's Fangs In-Reply-To: <1194615032.4992.16.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194614194.4992.10.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> <1194614798.2547.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1194615032.4992.16.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <47346745.30104@fedoraproject.org> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:26 +0000, Jonathan Roberts wrote: >> Do we have a page on the wiki for collating press reports like this? >> > > We used to? Rahul? Add them all to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 9 15:53:23 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:23:23 +0530 Subject: Video: Fedora 8 highlights Message-ID: <47348273.4090501@fedoraproject.org> Hi Chitlesh, a free ad for FEL... ;-) http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/08/video-fedora-8-highlights/ "Fedora 8 has gone live, and we?ve got a short video that gives some background on the release, specifically the new custom spins." Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Nov 9 20:53:52 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:53:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: 3 new introductions Message-ID: All, I'd like to introduce 3 new additions to Fedora Marketing List: Leigh Day, Kerrin Catallozzi, and Caroline Kazmierski. Leigh Day is the director of Corporate Communications at Red Hat. She is the overall point person for all of Red Hat's PR and communications efforts. Kerrin Catallozzi works for Leigh, and has helped with the Fedora press releases and such for the last few releases. Finally, Caroline Kazmierski is Fedora's main resource for media outreach -- all of the articles that get published each release are because of her tireless work in setting up conversations between Fedora folks and reporters, and helping to make sure all of that gets coordinated. In particular, Jack Aboutboul and I have worked with the three of them quite a bit, and there was no good reason why they weren't on fedora-marketing-list, where they will be able to get a closer feel to how the community side of Fedora marketing works, and hopefully we can all work together better. Just wanted to make some introductions, so that their names would have some context around them for those of you who don't already know them. Thank you all, Max From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 9 20:57:32 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:27:32 +0530 Subject: 3 new introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4734C9BC.3030504@fedoraproject.org> Max Spevack wrote: > > In particular, Jack Aboutboul and I have worked with the three of them > quite a bit, and there was no good reason why they weren't on > fedora-marketing-list, where they will be able to get a closer feel to > how the community side of Fedora marketing works, and hopefully we can > all work together better. Just to clarify, they are subscribed to this list now and will keep a tab/participate on the discussions here from now onwards? Rahul From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Fri Nov 9 22:15:11 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:15:11 +0000 Subject: 3 new introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1194646511.5669.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Welcome to you all :D Best wishes, Jon On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 15:53 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > All, > > I'd like to introduce 3 new additions to Fedora Marketing List: Leigh > Day, Kerrin Catallozzi, and Caroline Kazmierski. > > Leigh Day is the director of Corporate Communications at Red Hat. She > is the overall point person for all of Red Hat's PR and communications > efforts. Kerrin Catallozzi works for Leigh, and has helped with the > Fedora press releases and such for the last few releases. Finally, > Caroline Kazmierski is Fedora's main resource for media outreach -- all > of the articles that get published each release are because of her > tireless work in setting up conversations between Fedora folks and > reporters, and helping to make sure all of that gets coordinated. > > In particular, Jack Aboutboul and I have worked with the three of them > quite a bit, and there was no good reason why they weren't on > fedora-marketing-list, where they will be able to get a closer feel to > how the community side of Fedora marketing works, and hopefully we can > all work together better. > > Just wanted to make some introductions, so that their names would have > some context around them for those of you who don't already know them. > > Thank you all, > Max > From hudsonman35 at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 22:22:47 2007 From: hudsonman35 at gmail.com (Markus McLaughlin) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:22:47 -0500 Subject: Distribution List Inquiry Message-ID: How do I get on the distribution list? I want to mail off 100 Fedora 8 Live CDs by late January! This will be my first foray into helping Fedora out and putting in a small "plug" for LinuxGlobe as well. I have to limit the mailings to New England USA, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine. I want to help Fedora because it is the best OS out there. Public Awareness is key to continued success for Fedora, LinuxGlobe can help in this manner. My hope for Fedora 9 is a MAC-Like Interface in the GNOME part and a Vista-Like Interface for the KDE part. Of course, original innovations are also desired like a Calendar widget accessed from the top menu or a news/sports/stock ticker that is also a hot key application when the cursor moves over it. Congratulation on "Werewolf!" Onward and forward!!! Mark McLaughlin / linuxglobe.wordpress.com / Hudson, MA From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Nov 9 22:42:22 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:42:22 +0900 Subject: 3 new introductions In-Reply-To: <1194646511.5669.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1194646511.5669.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1194648142.4992.27.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 22:15 +0000, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Welcome to you all :D > > Best wishes, > > Jon I agree with Jon :) Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Sat Nov 10 00:00:33 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:00:33 +0900 Subject: Does Fedora 8 deserve intellectual welfare Message-ID: <1194652833.4992.30.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "Fedora 8 came out today and quite frankly, it sucks. I?m a Fedora user and I run Fedora on about 10 servers right now, including this one that hosts Dvorak Uncensored. But even though I?m a fan I think that it?s time to end the intellectual welfare that all the Linux reviewers give it and raise the bar to the same standards that commercial software is judged by. What is that standard you ask? It?s the standard of ?does it work?. My conclusion - no - it doesn?t. Fedora 8 is broken." It seems like a rant more than anything from my point of view. Some valid points but overall a rant. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14453 http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Dvorak_Uncensored_Fedora_8_Sucks Cheers Marc From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 00:22:12 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:22:12 +0100 Subject: Does Fedora 8 deserve intellectual welfare In-Reply-To: <1194652833.4992.30.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194652833.4992.30.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <1194654133.6463.44.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Op zaterdag 10-11-2007 om 09:00 uur [tijdzone +0900], schreef Marc Wiriadisastra: > "Fedora 8 came out today and quite frankly, it sucks. I?m a Fedora user > and I run Fedora on about 10 servers right now, including this one that > hosts Dvorak Uncensored. But even though I?m a fan I think that it?s > time to end the intellectual welfare that all the Linux reviewers give > it and raise the bar to the same standards that commercial software is > judged by. What is that standard you ask? It?s the standard of ?does it > work?. My conclusion - no - it doesn?t. Fedora 8 is broken." > > It seems like a rant more than anything from my point of view. Some > valid points but overall a rant. > > http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14453 > > http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Dvorak_Uncensored_Fedora_8_Sucks > > Cheers > > Marc > Parts of the 'review' are not very credible: "Being an expert, I (...) (...) Since I had a 1280?1024 screen, I wanted to see it in the resolution that the screen supports. So I ran the display configuration and set the Monitor to Samsung 712n which was on their list. (...) After selecting the correct monitor, I returned to select the resolution and even though I had selected a 1280?1024 monitor I still couldn?t (...) I could have started trying to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but decided f*ck it. Why should I spend several more hours on Fedora 8 just trying to get it to work with a standard size screen? I have better things to do. (...) " Excuse me, is editing xorg.conf "several more hours" of work, and for an "expert" at that? From nushio at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 00:29:12 2007 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:29:12 -0600 Subject: Does Fedora 8 deserve intellectual welfare In-Reply-To: <1194654133.6463.44.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> References: <1194652833.4992.30.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> <1194654133.6463.44.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Message-ID: <4734FB58.5080504@gmail.com> hymno wrote: > Op zaterdag 10-11-2007 om 09:00 uur [tijdzone +0900], schreef Marc > Wiriadisastra: > >> "Fedora 8 came out today and quite frankly, it sucks. I?m a Fedora user >> and I run Fedora on about 10 servers right now, including this one that >> hosts Dvorak Uncensored. But even though I?m a fan I think that it?s >> time to end the intellectual welfare that all the Linux reviewers give >> it and raise the bar to the same standards that commercial software is >> judged by. What is that standard you ask? It?s the standard of ?does it >> work?. My conclusion - no - it doesn?t. Fedora 8 is broken." >> >> It seems like a rant more than anything from my point of view. Some >> valid points but overall a rant. >> >> http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14453 >> >> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Dvorak_Uncensored_Fedora_8_Sucks >> >> Cheers >> >> Marc >> >> > > Parts of the 'review' are not very credible: > > "Being an expert, I (...) > > (...) Since I had a 1280?1024 screen, I wanted to see it in the > resolution that the screen supports. So I ran the display configuration > and set the Monitor to Samsung 712n which was on their list. (...) > > After selecting the correct monitor, I returned to select the resolution > and even though I had selected a 1280?1024 monitor I still couldn?t > (...) > > I could have started trying to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but > decided f*ck it. Why should I spend several more hours on Fedora 8 just > trying to get it to work with a standard size screen? I have better > things to do. (...) " > > Excuse me, is editing xorg.conf "several more hours" of work, and for an > "expert" at that? > > > Lets pretend for a second he said instead he was an old granny, there's no excuse as to why someone should need to edit the xorg.conf, the system-display-conf is there for a reason. If it didn't work as intended, his point is perfectly valid. (Though it shouldn't take him more than a pair of minutes to tweak a string... ;) ) -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Freelance Software Developer & Designer Fedora Mexico Ambassador Website: http://www.proyectofedora.org/mx GPG Key = 0x11CD3B36 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 01:00:12 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:00:12 +0100 Subject: Does Fedora 8 deserve intellectual welfare In-Reply-To: <4734FB58.5080504@gmail.com> References: <1194652833.4992.30.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> <1194654133.6463.44.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <4734FB58.5080504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1194656414.6463.59.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Op vrijdag 09-11-2007 om 18:29 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Juan M. Rodriguez: > hymno wrote: > > Op zaterdag 10-11-2007 om 09:00 uur [tijdzone +0900], schreef Marc > > Wiriadisastra: > > > > > "Fedora 8 came out today and quite frankly, it sucks. I?m a Fedora user > > > and I run Fedora on about 10 servers right now, including this one that > > > hosts Dvorak Uncensored. But even though I?m a fan I think that it?s > > > time to end the intellectual welfare that all the Linux reviewers give > > > it and raise the bar to the same standards that commercial software is > > > judged by. What is that standard you ask? It?s the standard of ?does it > > > work?. My conclusion - no - it doesn?t. Fedora 8 is broken." > > > > > > It seems like a rant more than anything from my point of view. Some > > > valid points but overall a rant. > > > > > > http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14453 > > > > > > http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Dvorak_Uncensored_Fedora_8_Sucks > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Parts of the 'review' are not very credible: > > > > "Being an expert, I (...) > > > > (...) Since I had a 1280?1024 screen, I wanted to see it in the > > resolution that the screen supports. So I ran the display configuration > > and set the Monitor to Samsung 712n which was on their list. (...) > > > > After selecting the correct monitor, I returned to select the resolution > > and even though I had selected a 1280?1024 monitor I still couldn?t > > (...) > > > > I could have started trying to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but > > decided f*ck it. Why should I spend several more hours on Fedora 8 just > > trying to get it to work with a standard size screen? I have better > > things to do. (...) " > > > > Excuse me, is editing xorg.conf "several more hours" of work, and for an > > "expert" at that? > > > > > > > Lets pretend for a second he said instead he was an old granny, > there's no excuse as to why someone should need to edit the xorg.conf, > the system-display-conf is there for a reason. If it didn't work as > intended, his point is perfectly valid. > (Though it shouldn't take him more than a pair of minutes to tweak a > string... ;) ) Point taken, but frankly, "old grannies" are not supposed to need to install an operating system. Most people never will. I've installed Fedora and CentOS for a couple of people that are now happily using it, but it would have scared the hell out of them if they had to *install and configure* the OS by themselves, even if it turned out to be not that hard after the fact. Also, adding some repositories and w32/dvd codecs and the like was just not something they were going to do. From paulds at bu.edu Sat Nov 10 01:14:27 2007 From: paulds at bu.edu (Paul Stauffer) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:14:27 -0500 Subject: Distribution List Inquiry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071110011427.GB15085@jadzia.bu.edu> On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 05:22:47PM -0500, Markus McLaughlin wrote: > How do I get on the distribution list? I want to mail off 100 Fedora > 8 Live CDs by late January! This will be my first foray into helping http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Join > for LinuxGlobe as well. I have to limit the mailings to New England > USA, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, You're going to have a hard time finding 100 requests from New England, or even from the whole USA. Better to fill whatever requests there are that you are able. cheers, - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From david at lovesunix.net Sat Nov 10 03:35:32 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:35:32 +0100 Subject: Does Fedora 8 deserve intellectual welfare In-Reply-To: <1194652833.4992.30.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194652833.4992.30.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <1194665732.17666.7.camel@dawkins> l?r, 10 11 2007 kl. 09:00 +0900, skrev Marc Wiriadisastra: > "Fedora 8 came out today and quite frankly, it sucks. I?m a Fedora user > and I run Fedora on about 10 servers right now, including this one that > hosts Dvorak Uncensored. But even though I?m a fan I think that it?s > time to end the intellectual welfare that all the Linux reviewers give > it and raise the bar to the same standards that commercial software is > judged by. What is that standard you ask? It?s the standard of ?does it > work?. My conclusion - no - it doesn?t. Fedora 8 is broken." > > It seems like a rant more than anything from my point of view. Some > valid points but overall a rant. > > http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14453 > > http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Dvorak_Uncensored_Fedora_8_Sucks It's a sad day for humanity when someone puts stock in what John C. Dvorak writes.. I mean honestly in a decade of predictions and rants, has he ever been right? His signal to noise ratio is disturbing. - David -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Redhat is a major contributor to Linux and you can see that in Fedora which includes many exciting new features. Fedora 8 is very stable, the package management is one of the best out there, security is tight as always and finally the presentation have improved to make one of the best looking Gnome distributions I have seen. However in the eyes of the average desktop user Fedora fails miserably. He will have to go hunting for third party repositories to get nVidia or Ati drivers installed and then get confused by the new codec tool. He will even have to go searching the web to find out why Flash fails when trying to install it in Firefox" Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Nov 10 23:45:39 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:15:39 +0530 Subject: Fedora 8 Games Spin (Live DVD) released Message-ID: <473642A3.3090507@fedoraproject.org> Hi Might as well as promote this ;-) http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Games_Spin_Live_DVD_released Rahul From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Sun Nov 11 00:35:47 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:35:47 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 Review on Dell D620 Message-ID: <1194741347.4992.39.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "I have 2 Pentium D PC's running FC7 and DELL D620 Laptop running Ubuntu in dual boot. I'm so satisfied with the configuration and performance of FC7 that as soon as I heard FC8 was available I went ahead and tried to blast away Ubuntu from my laptop and replace it with FC8." http://cabazorronews.blogspot.com/2007/11/fedora-core-8-review-on-dell-d620.html http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_Core_8_Laptop_Installation_Review Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Sat Nov 10 23:37:48 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:37:48 +0900 Subject: DVD-Guides.com - Fedora Review Message-ID: <1194737869.4992.36.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "Usage First impression / Looks The first think I noticed after booting Fedora for the first time is the amazing new look. Fedora is one of the distros that didn't care about looks originally but with the two last releases they have done a great job." http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/224/104/ Quite a nice review. Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Sun Nov 11 00:37:56 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:37:56 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 Review Message-ID: <1194741476.4992.41.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> "Red Hat ruled the Linux distribution world, before Ubuntu came and took over. With the current release for Fedora, it seems that Red Hat is fighting really hard to control the lost ground. The intense effort is clear from the current release. If we ignore minor hick-ups, werewolf is one of the best releases from Fedora. With this release Fedora is returning to my workstation as distribution of choice, after a long time." http://simplyjat.blogspot.com/2007/11/fedora-8-review.html http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Review Cheers, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Mon Nov 12 05:15:52 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:15:52 +0900 Subject: Fedora 8 Review In-Reply-To: <1194741476.4992.41.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194741476.4992.41.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <1194844552.23763.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 09:37 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > "Red Hat ruled the Linux distribution world, before Ubuntu came and took > over. With the current release for Fedora, it seems that Red Hat is > fighting really hard to control the lost ground. The intense effort is > clear from the current release. If we ignore minor hick-ups, werewolf is > one of the best releases from Fedora. With this release Fedora is > returning to my workstation as distribution of choice, after a long > time." > > http://simplyjat.blogspot.com/2007/11/fedora-8-review.html > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Review > > > Cheers, > > > Marc > Looks like my emails finally got through. Marc From devrim at CommandPrompt.com Mon Nov 12 05:34:44 2007 From: devrim at CommandPrompt.com (Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?=) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:34:44 -0800 Subject: Fedora 8 Review In-Reply-To: <1194741476.4992.41.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <1194741476.4992.41.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <1194845684.6310.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 09:37 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > With this release Fedora is returning to my workstation as > distribution of choice, after a long time." This is what I am hearing from many people, too, for Fedora 8. 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On Nov 10, 2007 12:42 AM, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 22:15 +0000, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > Welcome to you all :D > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jon > > I agree with Jon :) > > Cheers, > > Marc > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 12 10:36:48 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:06:48 +0530 Subject: Installing Fedora 8 Werewolf, - Step-by-step installation guide with screenshots! Message-ID: <47382CC0.1020707@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Fedora-8-Werewolf-70446.shtml "Fedora 8 (codename Werewolf) was released yesterday and it's the most breathtaking version of the Fedora operating system. Not only does this release bring an installable LiveCD for both i686 and x86_64 architectures, but it also comes with exclusive KDE and GNOME LiveCDs." Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 12 10:38:46 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:08:46 +0530 Subject: Fedora 8: La Recensione Message-ID: <47382D36.5010901@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://www.tuxmind.altervista.org/?p=419 Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 12 12:54:45 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:24:45 +0530 Subject: Distrowatch reviews Fedora 8 Message-ID: <47384D15.7020301@fedoraproject.org> Hi A fair review of Fedora 8. A few notes to Simon (CC'ed). Thanks for the review. Sendmail is activated by default since we need a MTA to send critical logs to the administrator but it connects only to the local host and the security risk of that is pretty much non-existent. You might want to note that critical factor in the review. Also the Java plugin problem of having to run mozilla-config manually is fixed in an update. NetworkManager is indeed started by default in the desktop live cd's as opposed to the regular DVD. We hope to have it be the default system-wide by the next release. The problem with old icons might also go away if we switch to the new Echo icon them in Fedora 9. The problem with yum updates checker is already in bugzilla and I agree it is a bit of a pain especially when you don't realize what's happening. For the IP3945 problem, try out the workaround mentioned in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/F8Common. http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20071112#review http://digg.com/linux_unix/Distrowatch_Reviews_Fedora_8 "Overall, I truly believe that Fedora 8 is by far the best Fedora release to date (and I've tried every one of them). From the look and feel of the system, to the out-of-the-box configuration during installation, I couldn't be happier with a cutting edge release. As I mentioned before, the biggest aspects of a successful distribution for me are suspend/hibernate, correct screen resolution and the the ability to change the screen resolution in a GUI if it didn't configure it correctly the first time, system stability, and overall look and feel of a distribution. For me, Fedora 8 has excelled in all categories when I evaluate and review a system and I hope that Fedora continues to release versions that are put together as good as Fedora 8 has been." Rahul From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Nov 12 13:42:55 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:42:55 -0200 Subject: I Fedora Latin American Ambassadors and Users Conference Message-ID: <4738585F.3010009@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Everything is ready! In the Latinoware (www.latinoware.org) We will have the "I Fedora Latin American Ambassadors and Users Conference" Ambassadors: * Brazil - RJ - RodrigoPadula ( Confirmed ) * Brazil - BA - CristianoFurtado ( Confirmed ) * Argentina - PabloBarrera ( Confirmed ) * Venezuela - GuillermoGomez ( Confirmed ) Collaborators from: Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay (potential ambassadors) For more informations, please read: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LATINOWARE FEDORA RULEZZ!!! Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira www.projetofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHOFhfPg3HAC1vlg4RAipbAKCq+b90HXkBkVi5Kbkl0OUsGsNE9ACdHZkP nLDgQc+3ajVbQTEboAgFj4Q= =DLBv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Nov 12 17:50:50 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:50:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fedora Store special interest group Message-ID: I have created a new SIG (Special Interest Group) to try to solve, this time in a more formal way, our swag problems. A basic page is up on the wiki that talks about some initial workflow questions, etc. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store If you are willing to commit some time to helping with this problem, feel free to sign yourself up. I have taken the liberty of adding Mairin Duffy and Jack Aboutboul to the SIG -- the former because she asked me to devote some time to this problem and the latter because I have decided that I want him involved. ;) I am purposefully using fedora-marketing-list for the email instead of starting Yet Another Email List. We will have a kick-off meeting on Wednesday in the #fedora-marketing channel on IRC, at 18:00 GMT. For your own time zone, see http://tinyurl.com/2g37uv Thank you, Max From karlthered2 at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 22:24:17 2007 From: karlthered2 at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H._Gu=E9mar?=) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:24:17 +0100 Subject: [Phoronix] WereWolf Vs the Gutsy Gibbon: 1- 1 Message-ID: Hi, Phoronix has done some benchmarks on performancesbetween Fedora 8 and Ubuntu 7.10. "As would be expected, in the gaming benchmarks the two Linux distributions had performed about the same. In three of the benchmarks, however, Fedora 8 had the marginal lead over Ubuntu 7.10. Even though Fedora 8 was on top 60% of the time, the differences were so small that a Linux gamer would not notice a change while gaming." http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=912&num=1 I am interested to know if SELinux was activated on the Fedora Box since it brings some overhead. I also shared the link in Mugshot. Phoronix had previously made benchmarks on power management between both distribution, Marc Wiriadisastra posted about it on this m-l. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=880&num=1 Cheers. H. Guemar, FedoraProject ambassador From cyberspy1 at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 22:47:17 2007 From: cyberspy1 at gmail.com (CyberSpy) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:47:17 -0500 Subject: Fedora Store special interest group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <108fe3f0711121447g703e3f79w57485ee8e129f5ad@mail.gmail.com> Max, You can count me in definitely! We've talked about this a bit, and I ranted a bit about it at lunch last year. Please add me to this SIG! From cyberspy1 at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 22:52:00 2007 From: cyberspy1 at gmail.com (CyberSpy) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:52:00 -0500 Subject: Fedora Store special interest group In-Reply-To: <108fe3f0711121447g703e3f79w57485ee8e129f5ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <108fe3f0711121447g703e3f79w57485ee8e129f5ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <108fe3f0711121452r4032c408lb935881f165cdb09@mail.gmail.com> Just realized my signature didn't appear on the above message. My Wiki/Ambassador name is LeeJoseph (in case you didn't remember). I've been having mail/signature issues since we dropped real names from fedoraproject.org and fedora.redhat.com email. CyberSpy/Lee Joseph From clints at utos.org Mon Nov 12 23:48:27 2007 From: clints at utos.org (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:27 -0700 Subject: Fedora Store special interest group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4738E64B.4070409@utos.org> Max Spevack wrote: > I have created a new SIG (Special Interest Group) to try to solve, this > time in a more formal way, our swag problems. A basic page is up on the > wiki that talks about some initial workflow questions, etc. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store > Its rare that I actually reply to anything on these lists as I have little time to commit. However, because this is one of my areas of interest (more than others), I'd like to help get the message out there as well. Fedora has needed this for some time and I am glad to see it becoming reality. Thanks Max! -- Clint Savage Fedora Ambassador | http://fedora-tutorials.com Founder Utah Open Source | Utah Open Source Conference http://utos.org | http://utosc.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From duffy at redhat.com Tue Nov 13 00:03:06 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:03:06 -0500 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? Message-ID: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no idea is too crazy: - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to. Comes with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number / arch /etc. - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in space. - women's-sized and styled tshirts :) - at least 5 or 6 different tshirts that are stylish, not just a logo and a slogan but something your non-geek friends would actually think looked cool even if they didn't understand what Fedora was. They would pave the way for folks to ask what it is and for you to spread the good word :) - case stickers - sticker sized for laptop - laptop skins - posters... stylish cool designs... stuff that folks can hang up in their cubes or at their school - this one's a bit out there and would take some work but - what if as a Fedora 10 '10 version anniversary' thing we put together a nice book that ran through each release of Fedora with some information about the major features and nice screenshots and artwork for each? E.g. if you bought the special edition of the Final Fantasy 12 game :) It comes with a retrospective of all the games before 12 with a little summary of the plot and screenshots... I'm thinking something like that but in book form. - along similar lines, maybe a DVD of the videos that have been recorded of talks at various FUDcons - tie clasp, cufflinks, pin - something that can be worn more formally - tie!! - winter scarf and matching hat with a bright blue pompom!! ~m From cyberspy1 at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 00:09:23 2007 From: cyberspy1 at gmail.com (CyberSpy) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:09:23 -0500 Subject: Fedora Store special interest group In-Reply-To: <4738E64B.4070409@utos.org> References: <4738E64B.4070409@utos.org> Message-ID: <108fe3f0711121609r34b9b28cw257465a57cd35158@mail.gmail.com> One product I would like to see come from this (as well as help make happen) is an Ambassador Kit which has been talked about before. I'm not sure if I should have posted this as a new message in Marketing or as a reply to the original message. Sorry for any inconvenience in advance. CyberSpy/LeeJoseph Fedora Ambassador - North Carolina/East Coast USA From clints at utos.org Tue Nov 13 00:10:58 2007 From: clints at utos.org (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:10:58 -0700 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4738EB92.4040407@utos.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no > idea is too crazy: > > - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to. > Comes with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number / > arch /etc. > > - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in space. Prepressed Live CDs are very important. Mass production could yield us a lower cost so we can give them out. Whenever I run an installfest, I clear easy 20-30 LiveCDs. Having the ability to obtain a few hundreds pressed CDs would help us get people more interested. > > - at least 5 or 6 different tshirts that are stylish, not just a logo > and a slogan but something your non-geek friends would actually think > looked cool even if they didn't understand what Fedora was. They would > pave the way for folks to ask what it is and for you to spread the good > word :) Polos would be good. Cheers, -- Clint Savage Founder Utah Open Source | Utah Open Source Conference http://utos.org | http://utosc.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From cyberspy1 at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 00:11:55 2007 From: cyberspy1 at gmail.com (CyberSpy) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:11:55 -0500 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <108fe3f0711121611n6c3a845ev6226af2c0bae3bca@mail.gmail.com> Swag needed by/for Ambassadors (like a pre-made Ambassador Kit that can be broken down and kept in a car, etc). CyberSpy/Lee Joseph Fedora Ambassador - North Carolina/East Coast USA From bpepple at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 13 00:24:35 2007 From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:24:35 -0500 Subject: Fedora Store special interest group In-Reply-To: <108fe3f0711121609r34b9b28cw257465a57cd35158@mail.gmail.com> References: <4738E64B.4070409@utos.org> <108fe3f0711121609r34b9b28cw257465a57cd35158@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1194913475.21396.6.camel@nixon> On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 19:09 -0500, CyberSpy wrote: > One product I would like to see come from this (as well as help make > happen) is an Ambassador Kit which has been talked about before. I'm > not sure if I should have posted this as a new message in Marketing or > as a reply to the original message. Sorry for any inconvenience in > advance. I'm thinking this should be a separate thread, since this would probably not be something we would sell. BTW, Jeffrey Tadlock worked a bit on this a year or so ago, which you might want to add your thoughts to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox Later, /B -- Brian Pepple http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BrianPepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Tue Nov 13 02:09:03 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:09:03 +0900 (WST) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? Message-ID: <18759.139.230.245.20.1194919743.squirrel@www.mwiriadi.id.au> Computer hardware that supports Fedora. I say in the sense that maybe laptops/video cards sata that is known to not have issues. (No need to keep stock just resell from other people) Linux games since there is a burgeoning linux gaming industry and it's starting to improve. The problem with those two ideas is a risk of performing because of propietary actions. Cheers, Marc From inode0 at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 02:13:58 2007 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:13:58 -0600 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Nov 12, 2007 6:03 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no > idea is too crazy: - pencils and pens are always good, especially space pens ... Fedora pens should work at high altitude - my inner hippie self wants bandannas - playing cards? poker chips? Take a chance on Fedora? - tags are good: dogtags, luggage tags, any tags - an infinity logo replacement 8-ball - fluffy winter socks to go with the stocking cap - table saw ... Fedora is cutting edge ... maybe something smaller - lanyard, Fedora advertising vehicle while at any conference or when dangling work credentials John From lisahoover at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 02:31:04 2007 From: lisahoover at gmail.com (Lisa Hoover) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:31:04 -0500 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7a2761170711121831q294cc33ar4b9df969c6b7cfc4@mail.gmail.com> Notepads notepad holders memo cubes (like these: http://www.paperdirect.com/Mini+Memo+Cube+Rising+Star/item_no=MC013/cid=1819/page_no=1/shop.axd/ProductDetails) sticky notes magnets car decals (small, tasteful) bumper stickers (large, tasteful :-) notecards to send thank you notes to industry people and/or the media something verging on school supplies because I know that my kids love "logo" stuff that relates to the things they're interested in (NFL teams, iPods, etc) Lisa On 11/12/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no > idea is too crazy: > > - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to. > Comes with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number / > arch /etc. > > - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in space. > > - women's-sized and styled tshirts :) > > - at least 5 or 6 different tshirts that are stylish, not just a logo > and a slogan but something your non-geek friends would actually think > looked cool even if they didn't understand what Fedora was. They would > pave the way for folks to ask what it is and for you to spread the good > word :) > > - case stickers > > - sticker sized for laptop > > - laptop skins > > - posters... stylish cool designs... stuff that folks can hang up in > their cubes or at their school > > - this one's a bit out there and would take some work but - what if as a > Fedora 10 '10 version anniversary' thing we put together a nice book > that ran through each release of Fedora with some information about the > major features and nice screenshots and artwork for each? E.g. if you > bought the special edition of the Final Fantasy 12 game :) It comes with > a retrospective of all the games before 12 with a little summary of the > plot and screenshots... I'm thinking something like that but in book form. > > - along similar lines, maybe a DVD of the videos that have been recorded > of talks at various FUDcons > > - tie clasp, cufflinks, pin - something that can be worn more formally > > - tie!! > > - winter scarf and matching hat with a bright blue pompom!! > > ~m > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 03:21:59 2007 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:21:59 -0600 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47391857.7080504@gmail.com> For now, I'll quote myself from last month when I suggested some, but I'll keep with just the better ones, as well as add to it. coffee and travel mugs Fleece jackets Beanie hat messenger/tote bags pin buttons patches for jackets and whatnot. keychain handheld teddy bears with fedora shirts calendars fridge magnets personal journals or daily planners engraved flash drives stress balls bottle opener From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 13 03:41:48 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:11:48 +0530 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47391CFC.3070400@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no > idea is too crazy: > USB flash with Fedora preloaded Fedora subscription - Get new releases of Fedora for any given time period with some swag, books etc thrown in. Support? ;-) Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 13 05:09:08 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:39:08 +0530 Subject: PolicyKit: looser limitations, tighter security for Linux applications Message-ID: <47393174.8060603@fedoraproject.org> H Check out this article which has some nice details on how PolicyKit is useful. Digg it: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_adds_PolicyKit_to_provide_best_proactive_security http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2007/11/policykit_looser_limitations_t.html "We?re used to think of system-enforced access policies as crude and coarse-grained, such as the setuid permission bit that lets a user execute a program as the file?s owner. Fine-grained access has to be enforced by individual applications, a laborious coding process that is weakened by not being able to take advantage of underlying operation system security. PolicyKit, developed by Red Hat and included in Fedora 8, ameliorates this unsatisfactory situation." Rahul From ben.lewis at benl.co.uk Tue Nov 13 07:42:47 2007 From: ben.lewis at benl.co.uk (Benjamin Lewis) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:42:47 +0000 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200711130742.52504.ben.lewis@benl.co.uk> On Tuesday 13 November 2007 12:03:06 am M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no > idea is too crazy: > If Laith Juwaidah (ljuwaidah at gmail.com) dosn't mind, some of these fake 'Certificates of Authenticity'. Based on that Ubuntu one that was featured on Digg a while back... I'm thinking printed on labels, about the same size as the M$ ones :) -- Benjamin Lewis Fedora Ambassador ben.lewis at benl.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://benl.co.uk./ PGP Key: 0x647E480C "In cases of major discrepancy, it is always reality that got it wrong" -- RFC 1118 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Not only classic, rectangular pads, we can have one shaped like the infinity bubble. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Nov 13 09:29:06 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:29:06 +0100 Subject: Fedora Store special interest group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47396E62.1090908@kanarip.com> Max Spevack wrote: > I have created a new SIG (Special Interest Group) to try to solve, this > time in a more formal way, our swag problems. A basic page is up on the > wiki that talks about some initial workflow questions, etc. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store > I'm in. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Nov 13 09:28:58 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:28:58 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47396E5A.8090508@kanarip.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no > idea is too crazy: > An official Fedora (Hat). I've been looking for these. Out-of-jail-Free Cards ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From david at lovesunix.net Tue Nov 13 09:33:34 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:33:34 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738EB92.4040407@utos.org> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <4738EB92.4040407@utos.org> Message-ID: <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no > > idea is too crazy: > > > > - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to. > > Comes with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number / > > arch /etc. > > > > - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in space. > > Prepressed Live CDs are very important. Mass production could yield us a lower cost so we can give > them out. Whenever I run an installfest, I clear easy 20-30 LiveCDs. Having the ability to obtain > a few hundreds pressed CDs would help us get people more interested. > > > > - at least 5 or 6 different tshirts that are stylish, not just a logo > > and a slogan but something your non-geek friends would actually think > > looked cool even if they didn't understand what Fedora was. They would > > pave the way for folks to ask what it is and for you to spread the good > > word :) > > Polos would be good. But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes. Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish - could we get something like that? Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to wear at work. - David -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <4738EB92.4040407@utos.org> <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> Message-ID: <1912.217.162.12.42.1194946773.squirrel@www.gbc.net> imho we need two kind of "groups" of articles ... first ----- mass production like stickers, banners, posters a.s.o. second (more important) ------ quality stuff e.g. stiched Polos in a quality which you can use for years, by daily wear ;-) special and exclusive things e.g. the slider (maybe the same as RH Store) or blue Shoes *bg* another idea which FabianAffolter and we are working on (also topic at the EMEA FAD in two weeks) is a "membership" with a special value ... Regards gerold > > man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage: >> M??ir??n Duffy wrote: >> > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no >> > idea is too crazy: >> > >> > - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to. >> > Comes with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number / >> > arch /etc. >> > >> > - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in >> space. >> >> Prepressed Live CDs are very important. Mass production could yield us >> a lower cost so we can give >> them out. Whenever I run an installfest, I clear easy 20-30 LiveCDs. >> Having the ability to obtain >> a few hundreds pressed CDs would help us get people more interested. >> > >> > - at least 5 or 6 different tshirts that are stylish, not just a logo >> > and a slogan but something your non-geek friends would actually think >> > looked cool even if they didn't understand what Fedora was. They would >> > pave the way for folks to ask what it is and for you to spread the >> good >> > word :) >> >> Polos would be good. > > But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to > get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes. > Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a > nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish > - could we get something like that? > > Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to > wear at work. > > - David > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Nov 13 09:41:20 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:41:20 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <4738EB92.4040407@utos.org> <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> Message-ID: <47397140.8010609@kanarip.com> David Nielsen wrote: > But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to > get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes. /me has bad experiences with Cafe Press T-Shirts as well > Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a > nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish > - could we get something like that? > > Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to > wear at work. > The Fedora Ambassador Polos (in Fedora Blue) we have from LinuxTag 2007 are of great quality. They stand out between the other (often) white T-Shirts, and they're discrete enough to wear at work (I've not had complaints yet ;p). Just an example. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Nov 13 09:43:23 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:43:23 +0100 Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week In-Reply-To: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> References: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <473971BB.8030205@kanarip.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Digg it: > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_sees_strong_adoption_in_first_week > > http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/12/fedora-8-sees-strong-adoption-in-first-week > > > "The latest version of Fedora?codenamed Werewolf?was released last week. > According to statistics released this morning by Red Hat, Fedora 8 has > been already been installed over 54,000 times in only four days." > > Rahul > Dugg, thanks Rahul. I think we maybe could have more (of 'our own') people Digg stuff like this. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Nov 13 09:45:57 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:45:57 +0100 Subject: PolicyKit: looser limitations, tighter security for Linux applications In-Reply-To: <47393174.8060603@fedoraproject.org> References: <47393174.8060603@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47397255.7000101@kanarip.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > H > > Check out this article which has some nice details on how PolicyKit is > useful. > > Digg it: > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_adds_PolicyKit_to_provide_best_proactive_security > Dugg. ;-) Thanks again. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From simon at simline.de Tue Nov 13 09:38:46 2007 From: simon at simline.de (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:38:46 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <4738EB92.4040407@utos.org> <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> Message-ID: <200711131038.52367.simon@simline.de> Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:33:34 schrieb David Nielsen: > man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage: > > Polos would be good. > But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to > get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes. > Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a > nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish > - could we get something like that? I agree, thats why the most European Ambassadors wear high quality Fedora Polos with stitched Logos on events - maybe we can reuse the idea and colors and maybe Stitchcards in a more generic Polo. Some examples for polos that we have produced for FOSDEM and Linuxtag 2007. http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/lt07/page002.html Cheers -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From david at lovesunix.net Tue Nov 13 09:50:28 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:50:28 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <200711131038.52367.simon@simline.de> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <4738EB92.4040407@utos.org> <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> <200711131038.52367.simon@simline.de> Message-ID: <1194947428.17666.41.camel@dawkins> tir, 13 11 2007 kl. 10:38 +0100, skrev JoergSimon: > Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:33:34 schrieb David Nielsen: > > man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage: > > > Polos would be good. > > But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to > > get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes. > > Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a > > nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish > > - could we get something like that? > > I agree, thats why the most European Ambassadors wear high quality Fedora > Polos with stitched Logos on events - maybe we can reuse the idea and colors > and maybe Stitchcards in a more generic Polo. > Some examples for polos that we have produced for FOSDEM and Linuxtag 2007. > http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/lt07/page002.html Oh that looks good, I'd love one for when I go out promoting Fedora - any chance you would share information on where acquire one? - David -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Fedora babies are way cuter than others ! * Fedora pendentive or cheap jewelry. * local store ie: EMEA) to avoid expensive mailing fees. ;-) From karlthered2 at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 09:55:09 2007 From: karlthered2 at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H._Gu=E9mar?=) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:55:09 +0100 Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week In-Reply-To: <473971BB.8030205@kanarip.com> References: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> <473971BB.8030205@kanarip.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Rahul ! On Smolt, only 6,000 profiles have been sent. We should advertise Smolt more aggressively. There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles. best regards H. Guemar From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 13 09:55:06 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:25:06 +0530 Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week In-Reply-To: References: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> <473971BB.8030205@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <4739747A.8080302@fedoraproject.org> H. Gu?mar wrote: > Thanks, Rahul ! > > On Smolt, only 6,000 profiles have been sent. We should advertise > Smolt more aggressively. > There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles. The count is likely misleading since there is a bug in Fedora 8 that causes firstboot to not show up in some instances when the network is down and Smolt server itself was running into some issues for a while but yes, promoting Smolt would be a critical factor for the success of not just Fedora but the Linux community on the whole. The potentials are growing steadily. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 13 10:03:32 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:33:32 +0530 Subject: Fedora/Linux for Noobs Message-ID: <47397674.3000002@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://blog.coffeedaze.com/?p=66 "While Fedora may not be the best starting point for someone with minimal computer knowledge, it is one of the most cutting edge flavors of Linux and has some amazing support" Rahul From simon at simline.de Tue Nov 13 10:33:21 2007 From: simon at simline.de (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:33:21 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <1194947428.17666.41.camel@dawkins> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <200711131038.52367.simon@simline.de> <1194947428.17666.41.camel@dawkins> Message-ID: <200711131133.26774.simon@simline.de> Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:50:28 schrieb David Nielsen: > Oh that looks good, I'd love one for when I go out promoting Fedora - > any chance you would share information on where acquire one? We produced this Polos for Ambassadors, so till we have generic Polos and a Shop, you should be a Ambassador - i know you are ;) The best way is to visit a FAD or FUDCON where many Ambassadors come together, then the chance is high that we produce some more for lower costs - For sure FOSDEM2008 and Linuxtag2008. If you need them for your local event and need them before, contact me or Gerold. To produce them you should need at least 5 Polos - and i need the money before i give the order to produce them - this is neccessary because the last time i ordered them for another Ambassador he payed little more then a half of the bill. I think there must be a way to provide such Polos without Ambassador stitch - but i will wait to contact the vendor till the first SIG Meeting - with this topic. Not sure - someone proposed balloons? CU -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gerold at lugd.org Tue Nov 13 10:55:38 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:55:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <200711131133.26774.simon@simline.de> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <200711131038.52367.simon@simline.de> <1194947428.17666.41.camel@dawkins> <200711131133.26774.simon@simline.de> Message-ID: <4114.217.162.12.42.1194951338.squirrel@www.gbc.net> > Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:50:28 schrieb David Nielsen: > Not sure - someone proposed balloons? ^^ Do you mean the same shown in the theme of F7 *bg* ok, just kidding :-) From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Nov 13 10:57:43 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:57:43 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4114.217.162.12.42.1194951338.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <200711131038.52367.simon@simline.de> <1194947428.17666.41.camel@dawkins> <200711131133.26774.simon@simline.de> <4114.217.162.12.42.1194951338.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <47398327.6000204@kanarip.com> Gerold wrote: >> Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:50:28 schrieb David Nielsen: >> Not sure - someone proposed balloons? > ^^ > Do you mean the same shown in the theme of F7 *bg* > > ok, just kidding :-) > Seriously though that would be a hell of a marketing stunt. I can't wait to see the real life Fedora 8 promo materials ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From jmbabich at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 11:24:47 2007 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:24:47 +0300 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <47398327.6000204@kanarip.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <200711131038.52367.simon@simline.de> <1194947428.17666.41.camel@dawkins> <200711131133.26774.simon@simline.de> <4114.217.162.12.42.1194951338.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <47398327.6000204@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <9d2c731f0711130324k1da031f3rbfdd3034f88d133c@mail.gmail.com> +1 on the quality polo shirts, similar to the European ambassador ones. Best Regards, John Babich Volunteer, Fedora Project From davidsonpaulo at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 12:13:56 2007 From: davidsonpaulo at gmail.com (Davidson Rodrigues Paulo) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:13:56 -0200 Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week In-Reply-To: References: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> <473971BB.8030205@kanarip.com> Message-ID: 2007/11/13, H. Gu?mar : > There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles. Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is reachable) after installation? Privacy issues? -- Davidson Paulo Administrador de Sistemas Linux Certificado LPI N?vel 1: LPI000132770 L?der Nacional do Grupo de Usu?rios BrOffice.org http://davidsonenatalia.blogspot.com/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 13 12:13:51 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:43:51 +0530 Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week In-Reply-To: References: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> <473971BB.8030205@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <473994FF.1040904@fedoraproject.org> Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote: > 2007/11/13, H. Gu?mar : >> There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles. > > Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is > reachable) after installation? Privacy issues? Yes. Privacy issues. Rahul From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Nov 13 12:49:34 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:49:34 +0100 Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week In-Reply-To: References: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> <473971BB.8030205@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <47399D5E.2070609@kanarip.com> Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote: > 2007/11/13, H. Gu?mar : >> There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles. > > Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is > reachable) after installation? Privacy issues? > It is an opt-in mechanism, yes. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From gdk at redhat.com Tue Nov 13 14:57:07 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:57:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no idea > is too crazy: > > - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to. Comes > with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number / arch /etc. > > - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in space. Fedora-branded USB keys, preloaded with Fedora. --g -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From gerold at lugd.org Tue Nov 13 15:06:50 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:06:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1132.217.162.12.42.1194966410.squirrel@www.gbc.net> > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no >> idea >> is too crazy: > Fedora-branded USB keys, preloaded with Fedora. ^^ +5 From inode0 at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 15:39:58 2007 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:39:58 -0600 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Nov 13, 2007 8:57 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no idea > > is too crazy: > > > > - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to. Comes > > with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number / arch /etc. > > > > - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in space. > > Fedora-branded USB keys, preloaded with Fedora. This is a great idea. Definitely Fedora-branded preloaded USB keys. John From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue Nov 13 16:11:55 2007 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:11:55 -0500 Subject: future of FUDCon proposal In-Reply-To: <1193259177.28397.58.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <1193251637.28397.22.camel@erato.phig.org> <20071024203409.GD2252@jadzia.bu.edu> <1193259177.28397.58.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: <20071113161155.GA8721@jadzia.bu.edu> On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 01:52:57PM -0700, Karsten Wade wrote: > FUDCon a bigger and better thing is worth it. Imagine if $someone were > doing all the logistics and all we have to do is fill the whiteboard on > the day of the talks? :) Yeah, that was Pam Andrews. :) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From gdk at redhat.com Tue Nov 13 16:32:14 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:32:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <47396E5A.8090508@kanarip.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <47396E5A.8090508@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Out-of-jail-Free Cards ;-) LOL! For those particularly rough FUDCons? --g -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From cyberspy1 at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 17:29:34 2007 From: cyberspy1 at gmail.com (CyberSpy) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:29:34 -0500 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <47396E5A.8090508@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <108fe3f0711130929p27fa5350x622d11f7e53758a9@mail.gmail.com> I didn't see this listed, but, a nice Fedora Laptop Bag, standard style and backpack style. I think that a laptop bag with the Infinity logo on it would be nice. I know I'd buy one, the one I have now is just a a simple black bag that came with my Dell and has the Infinity logo airbrushed on it, but the colors are starting to fade away/bleed. CyberSpy/Lee Joseph Fedora Ambassador - North Carolina/East Coast USA From ben.lewis at benl.co.uk Tue Nov 13 17:43:09 2007 From: ben.lewis at benl.co.uk (Benjamin Lewis) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:43:09 +0000 Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week In-Reply-To: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> References: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200711131743.13562.ben.lewis@benl.co.uk> On Tuesday 13 November 2007 09:32:28 am Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Digg it: > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_sees_strong_adoption_in_first_week > > http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/12/fedora-8-sees-strong-a >doption-in-first-week > > "The latest version of Fedora?codenamed Werewolf?was released last week. > According to statistics released this morning by Red Hat, Fedora 8 has > been already been installed over 54,000 times in only four days." > > Rahul I know its becoming a regular event me posting these, but the numbers always make interesting reading! http://diggometer.benl.co.uk/?mode=Tabular;input=4113416;method=Id -- Benjamin Lewis Fedora Ambassador ben.lewis at benl.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://benl.co.uk./ PGP Key: 0x647E480C "In cases of major discrepancy, it is always reality that got it wrong" -- RFC 1118 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is reachable) after installation? Privacy issues? -- Davidson Paulo Administrador de Sistemas Linux Certificado LPI N?vel 1: LPI000132770 L?der Nacional do Grupo de Usu?rios BrOffice.org http://davidsonenatalia.blogspot.com/ -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 18:46:59 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:46:59 +0100 Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week In-Reply-To: References: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> <473971BB.8030205@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1194979620.6225.1.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Op dinsdag 13-11-2007 om 14:53 uur [tijdzone -0300], schreef Roberto Mizuuti: > What privacy issues? I mean, how could the knowledge of what hardware > you have on your box do any harm to you? > > PS: I take it as a end-user machine. If your box is the main firewall > of your network, I would agree. > > regards > > Roberto Mizuuti It's a matter of principle. An OS ought not to be phoning home without specific user's knowlegde and permission. Doesn't matter if that OS is free software or proprietary. herman From jbwillia at fedoraunity.org Tue Nov 13 18:08:33 2007 From: jbwillia at fedoraunity.org (jbwillia at fedoraunity.org) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:08:33 -0000 (UTC) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50686.198.82.185.72.1194977313.squirrel@webmail.fedoraunity.org> 3"x3" fedora bubble Stickers Ben From imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 19:04:16 2007 From: imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com (Imtiaz Rahi) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:04:16 +0600 Subject: [Phoronix] WereWolf Vs the Gutsy Gibbon: 1- 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is the digg http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_7_10_Fedora_8_Performance_Compared Cheers, Imtiaz On Nov 13, 2007 4:24 AM, H. Gu?mar wrote: > Hi, > > Phoronix has done some benchmarks on performancesbetween Fedora 8 and > Ubuntu 7.10. > "As would be expected, in the gaming benchmarks the two Linux > distributions had performed about the same. In three of the > benchmarks, however, Fedora 8 had the marginal lead over Ubuntu 7.10. > Even though Fedora 8 was on top 60% of the time, the differences were > so small that a Linux gamer would not notice a change while gaming." > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=912&num=1 > > I am interested to know if SELinux was activated on the Fedora Box > since it brings some overhead. > I also shared the link in Mugshot. > > > > Phoronix had previously made benchmarks on power management between > both distribution, Marc Wiriadisastra posted about it on this m-l. > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=880&num=1 > > > Cheers. > H. Guemar, FedoraProject ambassador > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If your box is the main firewall > > of your network, I would agree. > > > > regards > > > > Roberto Mizuuti > > It's a matter of principle. > An OS ought not to be phoning home without specific user's knowlegde and > permission. > Doesn't matter if that OS is free software or proprietary. > > herman > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From link at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 13 19:26:29 2007 From: link at fedoraproject.org (Duarte Diogo) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:26:29 +0000 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <4738EB92.4040407@utos.org> <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> Message-ID: <1194981989.3397.128.camel@link.homelinux.net> Ter, 2007-11-13 ?s 10:33 +0100, David Nielsen escreveu: > man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage: > But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to > get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes. > Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a > nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish > - could we get something like that? > > Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to > wear at work. > > - David Regarding the clothes, we need something global, not only in the EMEA or in the USA. If I buy something in USA, I pay a lot of money due to a import costs to Portugal (and also a lot of paper work). I think that http://www.spreadshirt.net/en/ is a good solution, because they have a lot of offices in Europe and also in USA. I don't know the quality of the clothes, but for sure we have a German ambassador around, knowing the company and the products. It's also possible to open a shop with the spreadshirt frontend or place bulk orders http://www.deutsche-druckservice.de/prices.141.0.html ______________________________________________________________ //DD http://link.homelinux.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta ? uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente URL: From simon at simline.de Tue Nov 13 20:33:48 2007 From: simon at simline.de (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:33:48 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <1194981989.3397.128.camel@link.homelinux.net> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> <1194981989.3397.128.camel@link.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <200711132133.55282.simon@simline.de> Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 20:26:29 schrieb Duarte Diogo: > I think that http://www.spreadshirt.net/en/ is a good solution, because > they have a lot of offices in Europe and also in USA. I don't know the > quality of the clothes, but for sure we have a German ambassador around, > knowing the company and the products. > It's also possible to open a shop with the spreadshirt frontend or place > bulk orders http://www.deutsche-druckservice.de/prices.141.0.html If Spreadshirt can provide all SWAG what we want - why not! The french Team has already a spreadshirt shop - as i remember! http://fedora-fr.spreadshirt.net cheers Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 21:02:37 2007 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:02:37 -0600 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <473A10ED.4000305@gmail.com> I decided to make it easy for people to see everything that has been proposed so far, by putting the items up on the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store Although I admit I didn't heavily proofread it so if you see any double entries, feel free to remove one of them. Hope this helps everyone. From fab at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 13 21:46:14 2007 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:46:14 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <47391857.7080504@gmail.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <47391857.7080504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <473A1B26.3060501@fedoraproject.org> Michael Beckwith wrote: > For now, I'll quote myself from last month when I suggested some, but > I'll keep with just the better ones, as well as add to it. > > coffee and travel mugs > Fleece jackets > Beanie hat > messenger/tote bags > pin buttons > patches for jackets and whatnot. > keychain > handheld teddy bears with fedora shirts > calendars > fridge magnets > personal journals or daily planners > engraved flash drives > stress balls > bottle opener > A good start to see how merchandising stuff can look like is the Red Hat Cool Stuff Store [1]. IMHO There are some very "cool" things with a good price. Example, Fedora 7 DVD for 0,90 EUR. This is cheaper than some other online vendors. Regards, Fabian [1] https://www.redhat-coolstuff-store.com/index.php?o=516 From fab at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 13 22:06:38 2007 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:06:38 +0100 Subject: Fedora Membership/Fellowship Message-ID: <473A1FEE.1090101@fedoraproject.org> Hi all, A few months ago Gerold and I talked about a kind of Fedora Member- or Fellowship. This has included the webshop issue, too. The membership thing is a topic for the FAD [1] at the end of this month but perhaps it's a good idea to publish our "brain dump" right now. Because a intensive discussion about a shop has started... Some of you can surely remember the time when "Red Hat Magazin" has been delivered (between summer 2003 and winter 2004) to the subscribers in Europe. It was the printed german pendant to the online version [2]. Every issue contained an up-to-date "respins" of Red Hat Linux 9 and later Fedora Core. With one issue they sent a mouse pad. I believe that most subscribers like this kind of goodie because it was exclusive. But we don't want to focus to a magazine because there are already enough computer-related magazines on the market. Our focus will be the delivering of pressed and printed media with the newest release of Fedora at the Release Day. No waiting because the mirrors are slow or down just take the disc and install it. The goodies are the other part of the subscription. Basically we were just looking for something to get the people (most will be end users...) closer to the project and a way to make the customer relationship stronger. Of course it's about money. We hope to finance the participation of Fedora at Events with the profit. Check out your "brain dump" [3] and tell me your opinion, your ideas, your reservations or what ever. Kind regards, Fabian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2007 [2] http://www.redhatmagazine.com/ [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Membership From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 22:13:40 2007 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:13:40 -0600 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <473A1B26.3060501@fedoraproject.org> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <47391857.7080504@gmail.com> <473A1B26.3060501@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <473A2194.7090406@gmail.com> Definitely some stuff on there that I'd consider ordering, like a fedora business card holder, among other things Fabian Affolter wrote: > Michael Beckwith wrote: > >> For now, I'll quote myself from last month when I suggested some, but >> I'll keep with just the better ones, as well as add to it. >> >> coffee and travel mugs >> Fleece jackets >> Beanie hat >> messenger/tote bags >> pin buttons >> patches for jackets and whatnot. >> keychain >> handheld teddy bears with fedora shirts >> calendars >> fridge magnets >> personal journals or daily planners >> engraved flash drives >> stress balls >> bottle opener >> >> > > A good start to see how merchandising stuff can look like is the Red Hat > Cool Stuff Store [1]. IMHO There are some very "cool" things with a > good price. Example, Fedora 7 DVD for 0,90 EUR. This is cheaper than > some other online vendors. > > Regards, > > Fabian > > [1] https://www.redhat-coolstuff-store.com/index.php?o=516 > > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From david at lovesunix.net Tue Nov 13 22:28:30 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:28:30 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <1194981989.3397.128.camel@link.homelinux.net> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <4738EB92.4040407@utos.org> <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> <1194981989.3397.128.camel@link.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <1194992910.25624.8.camel@dawkins> tir, 13 11 2007 kl. 19:26 +0000, skrev Duarte Diogo: > Ter, 2007-11-13 ?s 10:33 +0100, David Nielsen escreveu: > > man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage: > > But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to > > get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes. > > Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a > > nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish > > - could we get something like that? > > > > Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to > > wear at work. > > > > - David > > Regarding the clothes, we need something global, not only in the EMEA or > in the USA. If I buy something in USA, I pay a lot of money due to a > import costs to Portugal (and also a lot of paper work). > > I think that http://www.spreadshirt.net/en/ is a good solution, because > they have a lot of offices in Europe and also in USA. I don't know the > quality of the clothes, but for sure we have a German ambassador around, > knowing the company and the products. > > It's also possible to open a shop with the spreadshirt frontend or place > bulk orders http://www.deutsche-druckservice.de/prices.141.0.html Absolutely, I'm in Denmark and I hate paying customs not to mention shipping for swag. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Privacy issues? > From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 02:14:48 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:14:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Store SIG meeting reminder Message-ID: The Store SIG will have its first meeting on Wednesday at 18:00 GMT in #fedora-marketing. We are going to try to set some goals, and at the end of the meeting I want us to have a target in mind of "what we want to achieve by December 4th, which is 3 weeks away. Here's a few things to get us thinking -- we can talk about them on the list here, or in the meeting tomorrow. (1) I'm glad that people took the contents of the What Should the Store Sell thread and transferred it to the wiki. I would really like it if one or two people could volunteer to be the maintainer of the Store SIG's wiki space, and keep making sure that important things that are discussed over email can get back on the wiki for everyone to see, like, for example, getting tomorrow's IRC log up on the wiki, etc. (2) Ambassador/Event kits. There are two parts to these -- one part is having a way for actual hardware (computers, OLPCs, video cameras) to be sent from event to event. That is a little bit outside the scope of this this SIG right now, because it requires money UP FRONT. But from a swag perspective, what we want is a way for an event organizer to see a list of swag that is available, and buy a whole bunch of it in bulk (therefore getting a cheaper price) and have it shipped to some location. (3) Quality. Lots of complaints about CafePress sucking. That's fine... we don't have to use them. It was just an initial idea. But we need to figure out a way that we can get the AUTOMATION that CafePress offers some other way -- and in a way that can be global. Here is the important thing to remember, as it is the underlying question that we must ask at every step of this process: IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AUTOMATED? If the *entire* process cannot be achieved via the internet, then we are DOING IT WRONG. All previous attempts at swag distribution have failed because they required people to go around mailing shirts and CDs all over the place. No one wants to do that, and it doesn't scale. The first thing that we have to identify is a vendor that can take our designs and handle the actual physical production and shipment of the goods, giving the profits to us and taking a cut for their trouble. We need it to be automated, and high quality. Maybe there are multiple vendors, and the "Fedora Store" just serves as a clearing house that points people in the right direction. spreadshirt.net to me looks like it's exactly the same stuff that cafepress offers. Red Hat uses Brand Fuel, but my main complaint with them is that there are too many middle-men between the designer and an actual product being sold. It's not agile enough to serve the needs of our community. The second thing we have to ask ourselves is "what should the process for creating a new product look like, from the designer's perspective?" I want to make a product-creation process that is as easy as possible for someone like Nicu or Mairin. From hudsonman35 at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 04:32:43 2007 From: hudsonman35 at gmail.com (Markus McLaughlin) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:32:43 -0500 Subject: Wireless Networking Problem / Fedora Store Ideas Message-ID: I hate to be a complainer BUT when I was using the PPC version of Fedora 8 Live CD, wireless networking didn't work on an older iBook I use from time to time. I hope there is a good solution/workaround for this soon. I think the bugs must be ironed out for a Re-Spin before Fedora 9 is ready. But other then that, Fedora 8 is the BEST OS yet! As far as a Fedora Store : Book-Like Magazines with a FREE DVD attached are a MUST. Also, why not sell USB Flash Drives with Fedora 9 already on it?! Or a $300 PC with Fedora 9 pre-installed! Or $600 PC Laptops with Fedora 9. Or Getting Started Books with a Live CD attached! Or computer cases or luggage with the Fedora Logo on it! Or a Developer's Course with Fedora 9 SDK!!! 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I I hope you've checked Bugzilla, and filed a bug report if it's not already there: Be sure to be as specific as possible about which wireless card it is. - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 14 04:52:26 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:22:26 +0530 Subject: Spinning a New Kind of Distro Message-ID: <473A7F0A.9040605@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/archives/071113-111653.html "While talking with Fedora Project Leader Max Spevack yesterday, I increasingly got the sense that Fedora is positioning itself for something bigger. The key, I believe, is the spin management technology that was implemented in Fedora 7 and has now come to maturity in Fedora 8. Spins, in Fedora-parlance, are customized versions of Fedora that users can create using Fedora's on-board mixing/package management tools. Right now, besides the two official KDE and GNOME spins from Fedora, the Fedora Spin site is host to Electronic Lab, Games, and Development spins." Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 14 06:17:22 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:47:22 +0530 Subject: Fedora Linux 8 hits back at Ubuntu Message-ID: <473A92F2.7050508@fedoraproject.org> Hi Digg it: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_Linux_8_hits_back_at_Ubuntu http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1049814461;fp;16;fpid;0 "The Red Hat-sponsored Fedora Linux project has released version 8 of its operating system with a host of new features aimed at raising the bar over rival Ubuntu. Fedora 8 release demonstrates an ongoing high level of development activity and strong user following" Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 14 06:20:00 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:50:00 +0530 Subject: Tour of GNOME Online Desktop Message-ID: <473A9390.3010503@fedoraproject.org> Hi Digg This: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Tour_of_GNOME_Online_Desktop http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/13/tour-of-gnome-online-desktop/ "Here?s a tour of the pre-alpha demo release of GNOME Online Desktop included in Fedora 8" Rahul From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Nov 14 06:45:23 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:45:23 -0500 Subject: Fedora 8: out of range Message-ID: <1195022723.473a9983935e8@ssl.mecca.ca> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15299/1090/ Apparently, the author has a problem with the onboard Nvidia 6100. There are some mistake made like Fedora claiming to be the second distribution to feature LiveCD. I let you comment on these. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From aphukan at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 14 07:18:19 2007 From: aphukan at fedoraproject.org (Amitakhya Phukan) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:48:19 +0530 Subject: Tour of GNOME Online Desktop In-Reply-To: <473A9390.3010503@fedoraproject.org> References: <473A9390.3010503@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <473AA13B.20300@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > Digg This: > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Tour_of_GNOME_Online_Desktop > > http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/13/tour-of-gnome-online-desktop/ > > "Here?s a tour of the pre-alpha demo release of GNOME Online Desktop > included in Fedora 8" > > Rahul > absolutely smashing!! regards, amit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are going to try to set some goals, and at the > end of the meeting I want us to have a target in mind of "what we want > to achieve by December 4th, which is 3 weeks away. > My apologies in advance: I cannot make the meeting this week. -- Benjamin Lewis Fedora Ambassador ben.lewis at benl.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://benl.co.uk./ PGP Key: 0x647E480C "In cases of major discrepancy, it is always reality that got it wrong" -- RFC 1118 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 14 08:29:08 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:59:08 +0530 Subject: Other language reviews - Fedora 8 Message-ID: <473AB1D4.4030103@fedoraproject.org> Hi I don't have much of a clue what it says though. If anyone can read and give a brief summary especially criticisms, that would be great Czech http://www.root.cz/clanky/fedora-8-nekonecno-na-dosah-ruky/ Hebrew http://linmagazine.co.il/fedora/11/11/2007/fedora-8 German http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/98600/ Italian http://www.tuxmind.altervista.org/?p=419 Rahul From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 09:06:04 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:06:04 +0100 Subject: Other language reviews - Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <473AB1D4.4030103@fedoraproject.org> References: <473AB1D4.4030103@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1195031164.3491.5.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Op woensdag 14-11-2007 om 13:59 uur [tijdzone +0530], schreef Rahul Sundaram: > Hi > > I don't have much of a clue what it says though. If anyone can read and > give a brief summary especially criticisms, that would be great (...) > Hebrew > > http://linmagazine.co.il/fedora/11/11/2007/fedora-8 > (...) Just a tiny excerpt from the Hebrew review (which sort of captures the tone): ??????? ???? ??????? ???? ?????? ?? ???????, ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??????????. ??????? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ????????, ?????? ?????? ?????, ?? ???? ???? ????????? ????? ????? ??????? ?????????. ????? 8 ????? ???? ??????? ???????? - ???? ??? ????????? ?? ????? ????? ????? ??????, ????? ??????, ???? ??????. "Many users these days prefer to install Ubuntu, because of its better multimedia support. Fedora's developers are relatively more conservative* in this respect, this to the effect that they won't go out of their way to make it easier on the user, being occupied with other business, or simply not interested in encouraging the use of proprietary components. Fedora 8 contains a multitude of interesting innovations - less in the realm of usability or the Linux based desktop, more in the underlying infrastructure, research and development." * the word may also mean, 'true to their principles' herman From karlthered2 at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 09:31:07 2007 From: karlthered2 at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H._Gu=E9mar?=) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:31:07 +0100 Subject: Other language reviews - Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <1195031164.3491.5.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> References: <473AB1D4.4030103@fedoraproject.org> <1195031164.3491.5.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Message-ID: > Italian > http://www.tuxmind.altervista.org/?p=419 This guy seem obsessed by a "south african distribution" making constant comparisons (except its founder which is as much south african as myself). To sum up => Pros: * Nice artwork * good hardware support * spins => usual rants: * yum too slow -yuck- * bad integration with third party drivers, multimedia (?) As many people, he thinks that Koji is a repository. Not really digg worthy. From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 09:36:10 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:36:10 +0100 Subject: Other language reviews - Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <473AB1D4.4030103@fedoraproject.org> References: <473AB1D4.4030103@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1195032970.3491.10.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Op woensdag 14-11-2007 om 13:59 uur [tijdzone +0530], schreef Rahul Sundaram: > Hi > > I don't have much of a clue what it says though. If anyone can read and > give a brief summary especially criticisms, that would be great > (...) > http://linmagazine.co.il/fedora/11/11/2007/fedora-8 > > German > > http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/98600/ > Again, an excerpt from the German: "Wie bei anderen im Halbjahresrhythmus entwickelten Linux-Distributionen zeichnet sich auch die neue Fedora-Version durch eine Vielzahl evolution?rer Verbesserungen aus. (...) (...) bei anderen Distributionen muss man hier auf das n?chste Upgrade warten oder selbst den Compiler anwerfen." "As is the case with other semi-annually released Linux distros, the latest Fedora version excels in a multitude of evolutionary improvements. If you do a fresh install of Fedora, Fedora 8 would be the best choice; many users would be tempted by upgrading the preceding version. Especially FC 6 users would have to consider an upgrade, since support for FC 6 ends beginning of December. You won't find many revolutionary innovations in this distribution, which did not have many noticeable events in its test phase. Examples are the first parts of the Gnome Online Desktop, as well as PulseAudio - the latter solving audio problems that have existed for years now. This may end up being a default in the next versions of Ubuntu and OpenSuse. Because of its careful modus operandi when it comes to software restricted by patents and non-free licenses, and its self-imposed limitations to open source software, Fedora is a bit less beginner friendly than its two main competitors [needless to say, OpenSuse and Ubuntu]. Instead, Fedora is tempting because of its repositories stuffed with highly up-to-date software, continuously updated during the supported period, with even new packages added to it. Because of new kernel versions with all their new functions and drivers, hardware support is permanently improved even for fresh hardware or hardware yet to be launched in coming months; something other distributions have you wait for for the next upgrade, or you'd have to throw your compiler at it yourself." herman From wy_2_k at yahoo.com Wed Nov 14 10:06:23 2007 From: wy_2_k at yahoo.com (Ama M) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:06:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week Message-ID: <872215.85692.qm@web60022.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Mauricio What do you mean by "Going to Nigeria!!!" ------------------------------------- Ama Mgbeoji http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AmaMgbeoji ------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ---- From: Mauricio Pretto To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:11:50 AM Subject: Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week http://www.drm.info/ Pretto http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MauricioPretto Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote: > 2007/11/13, H. Gu?mar : >> There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles. > > Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is > reachable) after installation? Privacy issues? > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From caillon at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 14:38:45 2007 From: caillon at redhat.com (Christopher Aillon) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:38:45 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no > idea is too crazy: A Fedora laptop-friendly backpack please. I have an ugly yellow one that is super awesome: really sturdy, has a slot for headphones, 2 slots for water, and many pouches and stuff for holding varying items. The only problem is that it has 5 other corporate sponsors on them. While I like the sponsors, I'd much prefer to pimp Fedora instead. From gdk at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 15:02:41 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:02:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Christopher Aillon wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no idea >> is too crazy: > > > A Fedora laptop-friendly backpack please. I have an ugly yellow one that is > super awesome: really sturdy, has a slot for headphones, 2 slots for water, > and many pouches and stuff for holding varying items. The only problem is > that it has 5 other corporate sponsors on them. While I like the sponsors, > I'd much prefer to pimp Fedora instead. Oooh! Oooh! Yes please! My backpack has finally expired after 15 years of hard use -- I'd love for my next one to be Fedora! --g -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From hudsonman35 at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 18:11:41 2007 From: hudsonman35 at gmail.com (Markus McLaughlin) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:11:41 -0500 Subject: Text to Speech Reader Idea for Fedora 9 and beyond Message-ID: Text to Speech Integration Idea for Fedora 9 and beyond An idea occurred to me when I was walking my Dog last night, there is NO text to speech RSS reader available in Linux! What I mean by that is I am a NEWS Junkie, it would be so SO cool if there was an Open Source Text to Speech RSS Reader which converts a News RSS feed to speech which is then processed into an OGG, AAC, or MP3 file that can be put on any mp3 player! So for instance Late Breaking News is available from the BBC News RSS feeds, a text to speech reader would translate the feed to a male or female British accented voice, which is then recorded instantly to mp3, aac, or ogg! Then the reader moves the file to an Ipod or any other mp3 player out there via built-in Ipod compatible plug-in. It would also be able to do the same with CNN with American accented female or male voices. I hope this idea doesn't fall on "deaf" ears, I think it would be a great free or low cost tool to have on Fedora! Mark McLaughlin linuxglobe.wordpress.com Hudson, MA, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 19:18:45 2007 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:18:45 -0900 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910711141118u60587f21l6b1cbd05e6044d51@mail.gmail.com> Fedora branded things I would consider buying. 1) US postage stamps with the fedora logo and web address. Grass-roots brand dissemination. You'll pay a premium for the custom postage, but its a completely untapped vector for getting the fedora project name out into the general computer using population. 2) computer stickers.. like the certified fedora barcode thing Nicu has made up 3a) Fedora Force action figures with Carpal Tunnel Grip (tm) including: Thorsten Leemhuis ,Seth Vidal, Jeremy Katz, Chitlesh Goorah, and many more! Go Joe!.. err I mean Go Fedora! 3b) Or a deck of Fedora Community themed cards that I can use with the University Fighting System, similar to the Penny Arcade(tm) card game decks which I may or may not own already. You could release a deck for each Fedora release. F7 users could 'fight' F8 users using the card game system. If we are really really clever, we'll have a high level meeting with Ubuntu and get them to produce a similar 'fighting' card deck. So Fedora users can 'fight' Ubuntu users once each person both purchased the corresponding deck of cards. Note: NOT a collectable card game. Though I would imagine that we could easily turn the package submission/review process we have right now into a fantastic collectible card game with a depth and complexity that rivals any current collectible card game system on the market today. 4) Fedora release themed/shaped USB key with Fedora pre-installed. Used as a live install have it pre-configured to sync with an online service like Seth has toyed with in his blog. Or use it as install media for your friends. How frelling cool would it be to have a werewolf shaped usb dongle that you could 'bite' other computers with and turn them into another werewolf. Like I don't know.. all the computers as Sam's Club that I walk past when I go shopping.. la la la. 5) Fedora themed knit cap. Baseball hats are cool and all...if you are partying in a frat. But I need something warmish. And since I seem to lose a hat a year... I'd end up being a repeat customer. 6) Fedora sleepy pants. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 19:21:36 2007 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:21:36 -0900 Subject: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week In-Reply-To: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> References: <47396F2C.6040201@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910711141121n33298fecvcbced7143bbe0533@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 13, 2007 12:32 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_sees_strong_adoption_in_first_week > > http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/12/fedora-8-sees-strong-adoption-in-first-week > > "The latest version of Fedora?codenamed Werewolf?was released last week. > According to statistics released this morning by Red Hat, Fedora 8 has > been already been installed over 54,000 times in only four days." Poo, they didn't link to the mirrorlist map for F8. Maybe I should poke someone and get that map included on the stats page. -jef"Hulk angry! Hulk smash"spaleta From gdk at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 19:29:50 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:29:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910711141118u60587f21l6b1cbd05e6044d51@mail.gmail.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> <604aa7910711141118u60587f21l6b1cbd05e6044d51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > 3b) Or a deck of Fedora Community themed cards that I can use with > the University Fighting System, similar to the Penny Arcade(tm) card > game decks which I may or may not own already. > You could release a deck for each Fedora release. F7 users could > 'fight' F8 users using the card game system. If we are really really > clever, we'll have a high level meeting with Ubuntu and get them to > produce a similar 'fighting' card deck. So Fedora users can 'fight' > Ubuntu users once each person both purchased the corresponding deck of > cards. > > Note: NOT a collectable card game. Though I would imagine that we > could easily turn the package submission/review process we have right > now into a fantastic collectible card game with a depth and complexity > that rivals any current collectible card game system on the market > today. I have wanted to do this for *years*! > 4) Fedora release themed/shaped USB key with Fedora pre-installed. Used > as a live install have it pre-configured to sync with an online service > like Seth has toyed with in his blog. Or use it as install media for > your friends. How frelling cool would it be to have a werewolf shaped > usb dongle that you could 'bite' other computers with and turn them into > another werewolf. Like I don't know.. all the computers as Sam's Club > that I walk past when I go shopping.. la la la. +1. --g -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 20:06:47 2007 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:06:47 -0900 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> <604aa7910711141118u60587f21l6b1cbd05e6044d51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910711141206s592e5f74wd1ccdc2907f0f9a5@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 14, 2007 10:29 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > I have wanted to do this for *years*! So what's stopped you? Contact the people who control the UFS trademarks and start wheeling and dealing concerning the production of a Fedora deck. -jef From gdk at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 20:09:43 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:09:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910711141206s592e5f74wd1ccdc2907f0f9a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> <604aa7910711141118u60587f21l6b1cbd05e6044d51@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910711141206s592e5f74wd1ccdc2907f0f9a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Nov 14, 2007 10:29 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >> I have wanted to do this for *years*! > > So what's stopped you? The time to figure out everyone's powers. :) --g > Contact the people who control the UFS trademarks and start wheeling and > dealing concerning the production of a Fedora deck. > > -jef > > -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 20:16:11 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:16:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910711141206s592e5f74wd1ccdc2907f0f9a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> <604aa7910711141118u60587f21l6b1cbd05e6044d51@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910711141206s592e5f74wd1ccdc2907f0f9a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Nov 14, 2007 10:29 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >> I have wanted to do this for *years*! > > So what's stopped you? Contact the people who control the UFS > trademarks and start wheeling and dealing concerning the production of > a Fedora deck. I always wanted to be a Magic the Gathering card. --Max From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 20:17:58 2007 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:17:58 -0900 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> <604aa7910711141118u60587f21l6b1cbd05e6044d51@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910711141206s592e5f74wd1ccdc2907f0f9a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910711141217h3a8ef166ya98681e8deb064fb@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 14, 2007 11:09 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > The time to figure out everyone's powers. :) Oh i think you'd get community help with the implementation specifics. The thing you can do is have the necessary discussion concerning trademark and production issues if you were going to attempt to be part of the UFS. Like the UFS people might actually have guidance for deck construction once you knew if you could actually do the necessary handshaking to start the process. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 20:19:32 2007 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:19:32 -0900 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <473B0875.3060108@redhat.com> <604aa7910711141118u60587f21l6b1cbd05e6044d51@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910711141206s592e5f74wd1ccdc2907f0f9a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910711141219t730bd692id68d893b509f2251@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 14, 2007 11:16 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > I always wanted to be a Magic the Gathering card. Get with the times... all the cool kids want to be an eye of judgment card now. You are OLD. -jef From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 21:35:15 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:35:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: meeting summary from Store SIG Message-ID: We had the first meeting of the Store SIG today. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store The wiki page has been updated with open action items, a meeting log, and a meeting schedule. We will meet again next Wednesday at 18:00 GMT in #fedora-mktg Thanks, Max From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 22:23:17 2007 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:23:17 -0600 Subject: meeting summary from Store SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Nov 14, 2007 3:35 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > We had the first meeting of the Store SIG today. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store > > The wiki page has been updated with open action items, a meeting log, > and a meeting schedule. > > We will meet again next Wednesday at 18:00 GMT in #fedora-mktg Sorry I missed the meeting ... I felt all lonely in #fedora-marketing :( One thing I've been pondering some is that a lot of quality stuff can be customized with organization logos but it tends to be this place will do nice pens and that place will do nice luggage tags and neither place will sell it on your behalf. Other places like brand fuel seem to do the whole thing but only for items they choose. Is there a place that will market the swag we have created elsewhere for us? See you in the right place next week. John From karlthered2 at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 06:59:53 2007 From: karlthered2 at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H._Gu=E9mar?=) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:59:53 +0100 Subject: meeting summary from Store SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Isn't #fedora-meeting dedicated for meetings ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel H. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 15 07:13:26 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:43:26 +0530 Subject: meeting summary from Store SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <473BF196.3000901@fedoraproject.org> H. Gu?mar wrote: > Isn't #fedora-meeting dedicated for meetings ? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel Yes. It is. Isn't that clear? Rahul From crossovo at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 15 08:59:41 2007 From: crossovo at fedoraproject.org (Daniel Kretschmer) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:59:41 +0100 Subject: Text to Speech Reader Idea for Fedora 9 and beyond In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 Another good idea would be a language text tool. I haven?t found programs for Linux. It would be a step forward in this direction, the programs involved by default. So far there is such language text tools only for Windows systems. Many firms use this tools. I think it would be a great free or low cost tool to have on Fedora! :) Regards Daniel http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DanielKretschmer 2007/11/14, Markus McLaughlin : > > Text to Speech Integration Idea for Fedora 9 and beyond > An idea occurred to me when I was walking my Dog last night, there is NO > text to speech RSS reader available in Linux! What I mean by that is I am a > NEWS Junkie, it would be so SO cool if there was an Open Source Text to > Speech RSS Reader which converts a News RSS feed to speech which is then > processed into an OGG, AAC, or MP3 file that can be put on any mp3 player! > So for instance Late Breaking News is available from the BBC News RSS > feeds, a text to speech reader would translate the > feed to a male or female British accented voice, which is then recorded > instantly to mp3, aac, or ogg! > Then the reader moves the file to an Ipod or any other mp3 player out > there via built-in Ipod compatible plug-in. It would also be able to do the > same with CNN with American accented female or male voices. I hope this idea > doesn't fall on "deaf" ears, I think it would be a great free or low cost > tool to have on Fedora! > > Mark McLaughlin > linuxglobe.wordpress.com > Hudson, MA, USA > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jnanney at mscoast.com Thu Nov 15 13:23:00 2007 From: jnanney at mscoast.com (Jim Nanney) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:23:00 -0600 Subject: Text to Speech Reader Idea for Fedora 9 and beyond In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <473C4834.10500@mscoast.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Akregator supports TTS reading of RSS articles, perhaps it would be simpler to add ogg export to akregator. Or maybe a plugin for liferea (LInux FEed REAder) could be written. As for language tools, kde has a bunch in the education packages. Check out http://edu.kde.org/kvoctrain These certainly aren't comparative to the commercial language packages, but they are a good starting point. Daniel Kretschmer wrote: > +1 > > Another good idea would be a language text tool. I haven?t found programs > for Linux. It would be a step forward in this direction, the programs > involved by default. So far there is such language text tools only for > Windows systems. Many firms use this tools. I think it would be a great free > or low cost tool to have on Fedora! :) > > Regards Daniel > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DanielKretschmer > > > 2007/11/14, Markus McLaughlin : >> Text to Speech Integration Idea for Fedora 9 and beyond >> An idea occurred to me when I was walking my Dog last night, there is NO >> text to speech RSS reader available in Linux! What I mean by that is I am a >> NEWS Junkie, it would be so SO cool if there was an Open Source Text to >> Speech RSS Reader which converts a News RSS feed to speech which is then >> processed into an OGG, AAC, or MP3 file that can be put on any mp3 player! >> So for instance Late Breaking News is available from the BBC News RSS >> feeds, a text to speech reader would translate the >> feed to a male or female British accented voice, which is then recorded >> instantly to mp3, aac, or ogg! >> Then the reader moves the file to an Ipod or any other mp3 player out >> there via built-in Ipod compatible plug-in. It would also be able to do the >> same with CNN with American accented female or male voices. I hope this idea >> doesn't fall on "deaf" ears, I think it would be a great free or low cost >> tool to have on Fedora! >> >> Mark McLaughlin >> linuxglobe.wordpress.com >> Hudson, MA, USA >> >> -- >> Fedora-marketing-list mailing list >> Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPEg03GRPSy3vDJMRAuvPAKCLj6dzNnHtP6HvXzM/qDvuGxVCzgCfazLd tOniweufcE74Ocm+er715/0= =QKwQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kanarip at kanarip.com Thu Nov 15 15:58:30 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:58:30 +0100 Subject: Fedora Unity releases Fedora 8 Everything Spin Message-ID: <473C6CA6.3090209@kanarip.com> The Fedora Unity Project is proud to announce the release of new spin, the Everything Spin. Included in this spin are all the packages available at the time Fedora 8 was released. The Everything spin has been long anticipated[1] and is now available for download. The ISO images are available for i386 and x86_64 architectures starting Thursday, November 15th, 2007. This release, unlike the Everything Spin for Fedora 7[2], is made available via Jigdo[3]. We have included CD ISO image sets for those in the Fedora community that do not have DVD drives or burners available, and just because it's fun using them[4]. This spin also includes 3 DVD images for each architecture, as well as 2 DVD Dual Layer images for those who are able to use them. Please mind that the second DVD Dual Layer ISO images is actually small enough to be burned onto a normal DVD. If you are interested in helping with the testing or mirroring efforts, please contact the Fedora Unity team. Contact information is available at http://fedoraunity.org/ or the #fedora-unity channel on the Freenode IRC Network (irc.freenode.net). Go to http://spins.fedoraunity.org/ to get the bits! To report bugs in the Re-Spins please use http://bugs.fedoraunity.org/ Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen Fedora Unity Founder kanarip at fedoraunity.org Fedora is a trademark of Red Hat, Inc. [1] "Everything Spin?" -thread on fedora-advisory-board m-l. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-May/msg00028.html [2] Fedora 7 Everything Spin Torrents http://fedora.kanarip.com/torrents/ [3a] Releasing Fedora via Jigdo http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/JigdoRelease [3b] Using Jigdo http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/jigdo/ [4] Screenshot of Everything (*) Installation using CD images http://kanarip.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-8-Everything%20CD%20Installation%20Media.png From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Nov 15 16:08:56 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:08:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: meeting summary from Store SIG In-Reply-To: <473BF196.3000901@fedoraproject.org> References: <473BF196.3000901@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > H. Gu?mar wrote: >> Isn't #fedora-meeting dedicated for meetings ? >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel > > Yes. It is. Isn't that clear? Its schedule shows that there is already another meeting in that channel at the same time. --Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Thu Nov 15 16:15:52 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:15:52 +0100 Subject: Fedora Unity releases Fedora 8 Everything Spin In-Reply-To: <473C6CA6.3090209@kanarip.com> References: <473C6CA6.3090209@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <473C70B8.2050603@kanarip.com> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > The Fedora Unity Project is proud to announce the release of new spin, > the Everything Spin. Included in this spin are all the packages > available at the time Fedora 8 was released. > [...snip...] http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Everything_Spin_Released Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From karlthered2 at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 19:47:41 2007 From: karlthered2 at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H._Gu=E9mar?=) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:47:41 +0100 Subject: meeting summary from Store SIG In-Reply-To: References: <473BF196.3000901@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: EPEL meetings are scheduled at 23:00 GMT on even weeks, so the channel was free. :o) H. 2007/11/15, Max Spevack : > Its schedule shows that there is already another meeting in that channel > at the same time. > > --Max > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 16 15:58:18 2007 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:28:18 +0530 Subject: Machines roll out at Bijra High school Message-ID: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> Hi ! Many of you may be aware of Bijra High School Project [http://www.dgplug.org/intro/bijra] [http://bijra.dgplug.org] of dgplug [http://www.dgplug.org] . On 15th November 2007 we had a grand inauguration of the project. The initial idea was to open the world of computing to poor students . This has been done using completely free and opensource softwares. WBUT (West Bengal University of Technology ) and L2C2 Technology lend us a helping by providing few computers to the school. An LTSP server running fedora 7 along with few old PIII machines has been deployed. Not only that as most students lack proper English knowledge so the whole implementation has been done using bengali (native language ) BN_IN locale . The area also lack a proper internet connection so kiwix (offline wikipedia), wordnet (a dictionary dump) , project gutenburg dvd dump ( collection of english classics) are among the few softwares implemented to provide a complete education setup . So this help them not only in learning computers but also in computer aided learning. -- Regards Subhodip Biswas Fedora ambassador West Bengal, India GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 16 16:01:59 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:31:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Machines roll out at Bijra High school In-Reply-To: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> References: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473DBEF7.1050607@fedoraproject.org> subhodip biswas wrote: > Hi ! > > Many of you may be aware of Bijra High School Project > [http://www.dgplug.org/intro/bijra] [http://bijra.dgplug.org] of > dgplug [http://www.dgplug.org] . > > On 15th November 2007 we had a grand inauguration of the project. The > initial idea was to open the world of computing to poor students . > This has been done using completely free and opensource softwares. > > WBUT (West Bengal University of Technology ) and L2C2 Technology lend > us a helping by providing few computers to the school. > An LTSP server running fedora 7 along with few old PIII machines has > been deployed. Not only that as most students lack proper English > knowledge so the whole implementation has been done using bengali > (native language ) BN_IN locale . > The area also lack a proper internet connection so kiwix (offline > wikipedia), wordnet (a dictionary dump) , project gutenburg dvd dump ( > collection of english classics) are among the few softwares > implemented to provide a complete education setup . So this help them > not only in learning computers but also in computer aided learning. Good to know. Is this plain Fedora or K12LTSP? If it is plain Fedora who did the configuration and management of additional packages? How many Fedora systems are these? Note that LTSP integration work has started recently in Fedora. Refer http://wtogami.livejournal.com/20047.html Rahul Rahul From 440volt.tux at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 16:50:51 2007 From: 440volt.tux at gmail.com (subhodip biswas) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:20:51 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Machines roll out at Bijra High school In-Reply-To: <473DBEF7.1050607@fedoraproject.org> References: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> <473DBEF7.1050607@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <539333cb0711160850n690b3e3fq29822dfab9624781@mail.gmail.com> These runs on LTSP 4.2 . One Fedora Server and 4 thin clients. -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 16 16:56:23 2007 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:26:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Machines roll out at Bijra High school In-Reply-To: <539333cb0711160850n690b3e3fq29822dfab9624781@mail.gmail.com> References: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> <473DBEF7.1050607@fedoraproject.org> <539333cb0711160850n690b3e3fq29822dfab9624781@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <539333cb0711160856l5c8c26f3vdab15a6c1659ccfe@mail.gmail.com> The packaging and management have been done by us with support from L2C2 technology [http://www.l2c2.co.in] . Machine are provided by WBUT [West Bengal Unversity of Technology] -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From davidsonpaulo at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 18:35:37 2007 From: davidsonpaulo at gmail.com (Davidson Rodrigues Paulo) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:35:37 -0200 Subject: Intro & observations In-Reply-To: <46CAE119.9010207@fedoraproject.org> References: <3032ee5e0708200817i1df43639vee8f7c12c9c75e51@mail.gmail.com> <1187654965.5699.485.camel@erato.phig.org> <46CAE119.9010207@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2007/8/21, Rahul Sundaram : > So while you can document the graphical utilities better, the command > line variants need to be retained. Feel free to edit the wiki and > document using seahorse as a method there. Old thread, but I finally found a way to sign CLA using only GUI tools. Following are the wiki pages that I modified, including instructions on how to sign CLA using GUI methods: * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/UsingGpg/CreatingKeys * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem/CLAHowTo There are the drafts I wrote before updating wiki pages: * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DavidsonPaulo/Drafts/DocsProject/UsingGpg/CreatingKeys * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DavidsonPaulo/Drafts/Infrastructure/AccountSystem/CLAHowTo Obs.: instructions on how to sign CLA using command line tool are untouched. Regards, -- Davidson Paulo Administrador de Sistemas Linux Certificado LPI N?vel 1: LPI000132770 L?der Nacional do Grupo de Usu?rios BrOffice.org http://davidsonenatalia.blogspot.com/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Nov 17 03:13:45 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:43:45 +0530 Subject: Another Fedora 8 review Message-ID: <473E5C69.5060702@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://adventuresinopensource.blogspot.com/2007/11/another-day-another-distro-part-9.html "The first thing that strikes you about Fedora is the artwork, it's beautiful and it always has been, even in earlier releases I thought. For me though true beauty runs much deeper than looks alone, nevertheless if you can't abide an "ugly" desktop then Fedora will probably please you." Rahul From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Sat Nov 17 09:18:25 2007 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:18:25 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <200711132133.55282.simon@simline.de> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> <1194981989.3397.128.camel@link.homelinux.net> <200711132133.55282.simon@simline.de> Message-ID: <20071117101825.62e7bf50@fedoraproject.org> Le Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:33:48 +0100, JoergSimon a ?crit : > Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 20:26:29 schrieb Duarte Diogo: > > The french Team has already a spreadshirt shop - as i remember! > > http://fedora-fr.spreadshirt.net > You remember well, and we are to open it within few weeks for now. I could bring you the bear, the neck-thing and the mug I ordered from them to test the quality. Too bad, but on thsirt, you can see it is a transfer thing (a piece of special paper you have stuck on the clothes with an iron). Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I > > don't know the quality of the clothes, but for sure we have a > > German ambassador around, knowing the company and the products. > > It's also possible to open a shop with the spreadshirt frontend or > > place bulk orders > > http://www.deutsche-druckservice.de/prices.141.0.html > > If Spreadshirt can provide all SWAG what we want - why not! > But no, they can't. Their offer is quite huge but limited at the same time. (umbrellas, clocks, strings...) Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johan at x-tnd.be Sat Nov 17 09:57:45 2007 From: johan at x-tnd.be (Johan Cwiklinski) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:57:45 +0100 Subject: What would a Fedora Store sell? In-Reply-To: <20071117101825.62e7bf50@fedoraproject.org> References: <4738E9BA.5080908@redhat.com> <1194946414.17666.37.camel@dawkins> <1194981989.3397.128.camel@link.homelinux.net> <200711132133.55282.simon@simline.de> <20071117101825.62e7bf50@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <473EBB19.10900@x-tnd.be> Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > Le Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:33:48 +0100, > JoergSimon a ?crit : > > >> Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 20:26:29 schrieb Duarte Diogo: >> >> > > >> The french Team has already a spreadshirt shop - as i remember! >> >> http://fedora-fr.spreadshirt.net >> >> > > You remember well, and we are to open it within few weeks for now. > > I could bring you the bear, the neck-thing and the mug I ordered from > them to test the quality. > > Too bad, but on thsirt, you can see it is a transfer thing (a piece of > special paper you have stuck on the clothes with an iron). > > Thomas > Hi, Spreadshirt can use another method they call "flexo" to print from an illustrator (or like) file. French team has tried to provide a such file, but there were too many vectors (as they said) and our 'graphist' cannot reduce them. Flexo method quality is much more better, but is also more expensive. Just a few precisions, regards, Johan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Robertson-Turner wrote: > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_s_IS_THERE_A_CHOICE_Uses_WINDOWS_No_choice > > Oh the irony :) > > This slightly embarrassing, and not very good PR. > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- jan1024188 From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 16:46:12 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:16:12 +0530 Subject: Red Hat's isthereachoice.com ... hosted on Windows? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_s_IS_THERE_A_CHOICE_Uses_WINDOWS_No_choice http://www.isthereachoice.com/ http://who.is/whois-com/ip-address/isthereachoice.com/ Registry Whois Domain Name: isthereachoice.com Status: clientDeleteProhibited, clientTransferProhibited, clientUpdateProhibited Registrar: WEB COMMERCE COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED DBA WEBNIC.CC Whois Server: whois.webnic.cc Referral URL: http://www.webnic.cc Expiration Date: 2009-09-20 Creation Date: 2007-09-20 Last Update Date: 2007-11-06 Name Servers: ns1.webvis.net ns2.webvis.net Extended Info IP Address: 202.157.133.210 Website Status: active Server Type: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Cache Date: 2007-11-17 09:42:38 MST This is not RedHat 's site I think. -- Regards, Susmit. ====================================== ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ====================================== From jmbabich at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 18:03:24 2007 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:03:24 +0300 Subject: Red Hat's isthereachoice.com ... hosted on Windows? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9d2c731f0711171003i356438e5pfcc44f2f0510dd2f@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 17, 2007 7:46 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_s_IS_THERE_A_CHOICE_Uses_WINDOWS_No_choice > > > http://www.isthereachoice.com/ > > This is not RedHat 's site I think. > > Note that it's copyright (c) 2007 Red Hat Middleware, LLC. JBoss, as in Red Hat Middleware, runs on many platforms, including Windows. That might explain the ironic choice of web servers. :-) Still, not a very clever way to promote open source, let alone Linux John From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat Nov 17 18:55:27 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:55:27 +0100 Subject: Red Hat's isthereachoice.com ... hosted on Windows? In-Reply-To: <1833f76a0711170839r660a6b0x42dad7ad822aea33@mail.gmail.com> References: <1833f76a0711170839r660a6b0x42dad7ad822aea33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473F391F.3060408@kanarip.com> jan birsa wrote: > Well, with windows you can make much more powerfull websites You're being sarcastic aren't you? ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 06:29:52 2007 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:59:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Machines roll out at Bijra High school In-Reply-To: <473DBEF7.1050607@fedoraproject.org> References: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> <473DBEF7.1050607@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <473FDBE0.1030208@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Note that LTSP integration work has started recently in Fedora. Refer > > http://wtogami.livejournal.com/20047.html It might be of passing interest that Indranil and others from this Bijra issue have been at it a while trying to get some information about LTSP and Fedora (see the -education list) - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw www.linkedin.com/in/sankarshan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHP9vgXQZpNTcrCzMRAl1VAJ44YixyHePTOzUxlvfGY244aX7jpwCgvtQc fuO+P2EeMPbbIuswCk8uONc= =WCvS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 18 08:59:21 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:29:21 +0530 Subject: A Java Developer's Review of Fedora 8 Message-ID: <473FFEE9.8090402@fedoraproject.org> Hi Primarily a look at how key Java software packages work with IcedTea. http://ensode.net/java_fedora_8_icedtea.html "I was pleasantly surprised with the high degree of compatibility that IcedTea brings to the table. Also, the bundled Java tools such as Maven, ANT and Eclipse save a lot of time of downloading and configuration." Rahul From nihedmm at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 09:11:56 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:11:56 +0100 Subject: A Java Developer's Review of Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <473FFEE9.8090402@fedoraproject.org> References: <473FFEE9.8090402@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0711180111v7163e555q1511f045c322a2ca@mail.gmail.com> +1 fedora + IcedTea + JBoss will be the best choice of developer :) 2007/11/18, Rahul Sundaram : > > Hi > > > Primarily a look at how key Java software packages work with IcedTea. > > http://ensode.net/java_fedora_8_icedtea.html > > "I was pleasantly surprised with the high degree of compatibility that > IcedTea brings to the table. Also, the bundled Java tools such as Maven, > ANT and Eclipse save a lot of time of downloading and configuration." > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Sun Nov 18 17:10:14 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:10:14 +0000 Subject: Fedora People etc Message-ID: <1195405814.2691.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all, A while ago some people suggested that it would be good to do some marketing work for the stuff that goes on around Fedora the distribution, like the web space of Fedora People... Anybody had any thoughts on what would be a good approach to go with this? Seeing as Fedora 8's out the door now, seems like a good time to get some information about it out. Best wishes, Jon From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 19 06:47:49 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:17:49 +0530 Subject: The Fedora OS: Free, Stable and Customizable Message-ID: <47413195.7090808@fedoraproject.org> Hi From Max Spevack... http://www.cio.com/article/156020/The_Fedora_OS_Free_Stable_and_Customizable "The Fedora Project builds a world-class Linux operating system, consisting of entirely free (meaning both zero-cost and full source code available) software, that is used by companies, organizations and individuals worldwide." Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 19 06:53:35 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:23:35 +0530 Subject: The Fedora OS: Free, Stable and Customizable In-Reply-To: <47413195.7090808@fedoraproject.org> References: <47413195.7090808@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <474132EF.1000906@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > From Max Spevack... > > http://www.cio.com/article/156020/The_Fedora_OS_Free_Stable_and_Customizable Digg It: http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Fedora_OS_Free_Stable_and_Customizable Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 19 09:31:58 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:01:58 +0530 Subject: Distrowatch maintainer reviews Fedora 8 Message-ID: <4741580E.8050606@fedoraproject.org> Hi A very positive review but there a number of small niggles mentioned which I hope to respond a bit later. Digg It: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Impressions_of_Fedora_8 http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20071119#review "It was also the first time in years that I used a Red Hat product; as far as I can remember, I haven't installed any on a production box since Red Hat Linux 9 and even that was just a simple mail server. But the Fedora of today is a very different operating system - not only is it one of the most innovative distributions around, it is now also a well-oiled community project with increasing participation of third-party developers and volunteer contributors." "Although Fedora 8 isn't perfect (which distribution is?), it comes a lot closer to delivering a superb desktop experience than one would expect from a company whose business is focused almost exclusively on the server market. Great job overall and a well-deserved 8.5 out of 10." Rahul From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Nov 19 15:12:51 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:12:51 -0500 Subject: I Fedora Latin American Ambassadors and Users Conference Message-ID: <4741A7F3.2090406@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The conference was held with great success. There was a great integration between the participating countries. Our stand was very busy and also a lot of public participation in talks. We are already planning the next event for 2008. Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/rodrigopadula/IConferNciaLatinoAmericanaDeEmbaixadoresEUsuRiosFedoraLatinoware2007 Informations: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LATINOWARE Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira http://www.projetofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHQafyPg3HAC1vlg4RAonSAJ0T5QXocj/DXGY2PeDX3pZP0PBSPQCglpvT 1cnt24GywgQ/njDc4HaxQWM= =Ds5S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 19 14:34:09 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:04:09 +0530 Subject: Couple more Fedora 8 reviews Message-ID: <47419EE1.5000304@fedoraproject.org> Hi German: http://www.pro-linux.de/berichte/fedora8.html French: http://www.frlinux.net/?section=distributions&article=204 Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 19 15:00:44 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:30:44 +0530 Subject: Fedora 8: What did they DO?! Message-ID: <4741A51C.7040305@fedoraproject.org> "Hi http://distrogue.blogspot.com/2007/11/fedora-8-what-did-they-do.html "I tried out Fedora 8 Test 3. It was atrocious. :-) It was slow, bloated, laggy, ugly, and had bad hardware detection. But something huge happened between the test and the final release, because Fedora 8 absolutely rocks." Pros: -Sweet artwork -Completely FOSS -Enormous software selection -Decent performance for once Cons: -Assorted quirks in hardware detection -Somewhat long install Overall: 4.3/5- A solid release from Fedora, for once. :-) Rahul From david at lovesunix.net Mon Nov 19 15:53:56 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:53:56 +0100 Subject: Fedora 8: What did they DO?! In-Reply-To: <4741A51C.7040305@fedoraproject.org> References: <4741A51C.7040305@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1195487636.3501.6.camel@dawkins> man, 19 11 2007 kl. 20:30 +0530, skrev Rahul Sundaram: > "Hi > > > http://distrogue.blogspot.com/2007/11/fedora-8-what-did-they-do.html > > "I tried out Fedora 8 Test 3. It was atrocious. :-) It was slow, > bloated, laggy, ugly, and had bad hardware detection. But something huge > happened between the test and the final release, because Fedora 8 > absolutely rocks." > > Pros: > -Sweet artwork > -Completely FOSS > -Enormous software selection > -Decent performance for once > Cons: > -Assorted quirks in hardware detection > -Somewhat long install > > Overall: 4.3/5- A solid release from Fedora, for once. :-) They also link a reaction poll to Fedora 8, people might want to vote. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/21938 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Seeing as Fedora 8's out the door now, seems like a good time to > get some information about it out. > > Best wishes, > > Jon > I bet the Infrastructure group via their mailing list or #fedora-admin could give all kinds of examples of how people are using it and how it compares to other projects. John From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Nov 20 04:56:33 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:56:33 -0600 Subject: Fedora People etc In-Reply-To: <474264D6.2080202@redhat.com> References: <1195405814.2691.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <474264D6.2080202@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47426901.9060902@redhat.com> John Poelstra wrote: > Jonathan Roberts wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> A while ago some people suggested that it would be good to do some >> marketing work for the stuff that goes on around Fedora the >> distribution, like the web space of Fedora People... >> >> Anybody had any thoughts on what would be a good approach to go with >> this? Seeing as Fedora 8's out the door now, seems like a good time to >> get some information about it out. > > I bet the Infrastructure group via their mailing list or #fedora-admin > could give all kinds of examples of how people are using it and how it > compares to other projects. One thing I'd like to see more of is our banner ads. A FWN banner that comes out and is linked on the main site the day it comes up, or rotations between it and a new group, you get the idea. Classic advertising banners but on our fedora themed sites (fedoraproject.org, torrent, fedorapeople.org, etc). Javascript could pick a random banner on page load, weighted or other criteria (like higher weight for FWN on the days it comes out), it'd just take A) the art team to build the banners (they rock) and B) someone to write the code to put it in our pages. /2 cents. -Mike From fzied at dottn.com Tue Nov 20 11:20:20 2007 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:20:20 +0100 Subject: A Java Developer's Review of Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0711180111v7163e555q1511f045c322a2ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <473FFEE9.8090402@fedoraproject.org> <5bddd8fd0711180111v7163e555q1511f045c322a2ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, is the JBOSS Eclipse plugin included ? On Nov 18, 2007 10:11 AM, nihed mbarek wrote: > +1 > fedora + IcedTea + JBoss will be the best choice of developer :) > > > > 2007/11/18, Rahul Sundaram : > > > Hi > > > > > > Primarily a look at how key Java software packages work with IcedTea. > > > > http://ensode.net/java_fedora_8_icedtea.html > > > > "I was pleasantly surprised with the high degree of compatibility that > > IcedTea brings to the table. 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URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Nov 20 16:49:12 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:49:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Store SIG meeting on Wednesday Message-ID: We are having our second Fedora Store SIG meeting on Wednesday in the #fedora-mktg channel at 18:00 GMT (13:00 EST). All are invited, including the folks who are already doing the French store! We will follow up last week's action items, and if any of the French folks show up, talk to them about their experiences so far with spreadshirt.net. Here are last week's action items -- http://tinyurl.com/2g43ue The Fedora Store SIG -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Tue Nov 20 17:44:13 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:44:13 +0000 Subject: SELinux interview! Message-ID: <1195580653.2714.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Finally, I've managed to put up another interview! I'm sorry it's taken me so long, I've had the answers to the questions sitting in my inbox for a *long time* now. It's with Daniel Walsh, lead developer of SELinux - so you can guess what this one is about :D Find it here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/SELinux And as always, digg it here: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Easier_security_in_Fedora_8 I haven't submitted it to any other news sites yet, so if anybody else would like to do that that would be awesome :D Currently procrastinating from more pressing matters! Best wishes, Jon From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 20 17:47:47 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:17:47 +0530 Subject: SELinux interview! In-Reply-To: <1195580653.2714.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1195580653.2714.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47431DC3.2020507@fedoraproject.org> Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Finally, I've managed to put up another interview! I'm sorry it's taken > me so long, I've had the answers to the questions sitting in my inbox > for a *long time* now. Next time, copy paste it immediately somewhere in your wiki space and we can mash it up and present it faster. > It's with Daniel Walsh, lead developer of SELinux - so you can guess > what this one is about :D > > Find it here: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/SELinux It is missing Dan Walsh's pic. I have made some minor adjustments too. > And as always, digg it here: > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Easier_security_in_Fedora_8 > > I haven't submitted it to any other news sites yet, so if anybody else > would like to do that that would be awesome :D Currently procrastinating > from more pressing matters! I will take care of that. Thanks for doing the interview. Pretty interesting. Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Nov 21 18:42:13 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:42:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: 2007-11-21 Fedora Store meeting summary Message-ID: All, I've updated our list of open action items: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store And also posted today's IRC log: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store/Meetings/2007-11-21 Talk to you all next week. Happy Thanksgiving, if you are into that whole thing! --Max From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 23 08:12:58 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:42:58 +0530 Subject: Dealing with .rpmnew and .rpmsave files Message-ID: <47468B8A.4050300@fedoraproject.org> Hi A useful article on a long existing feature. http://www.linux.com/feature/121476 "Nobody ever thinks to mention .rpmnew and .rpmsave extensions to new users of Fedora or Red Hat derivatives. Instead, most users suddenly discover that these files are accumulating on their hard drives, or notice a fleeting message on the screen about them during a version upgrade. Many, I suspect, simply leave them alone, uncertain what to do about them. Yet dealing with them is simply a matter of using a few basic commands, and can be a necessity for ensuring trouble-free upgrades in the future." Rahul From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 09:22:24 2007 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:22:24 +0100 Subject: FOSDEM -Brussels- Kick off Message-ID: <3161376e0711230122t4e8eb956v63cc7be66ad9f2e@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I glad to announce you the FOSDEM 2008 project start. it will take place on 23 and 24 February 2008 So, we have approximately three month to prepare it. And everybody is welcomed to participate in order to make it successful. At that time we are three who have plan to be their. Some questions still remains : Is it be a problem for the Fedora Community if we share our development room with CentOs as we did last year ? ( Go to the Fedora Fosdem 2008 wiki web page for more details - see below- ) Would Fedora community agree to share its development room with Red Hat JBoss ? I know we are on Fedora mailing list and it is not appropriated but as Fedora and Jboss are part of Red Hat and it will make like easier to FOSDEM Team to Group us together. That is why I did it. Do you know a point of contact for JBoss community for such event ? - What is about marketing stuffs ? what do we need ? How are we going to proceed ? Do you know fedora people who could be interested to present their project ? Thanks a lot for your help. Feel free to contact me if you have any question, remarks and so on... Rem: All details would be at the following URL : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 Frederic Hornain Have fun with F8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain From david at lovesunix.net Sun Nov 25 15:44:06 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:44:06 +0100 Subject: Linux Action Show! Fedora 8 hatchetjob review Message-ID: <1196005446.2793.9.camel@dawkins> Chris and Bryan over at the Linux Action Show Podcast took the time to play with F8 for 2 weeks. If you poured your heart and soul into Fedora I'd advice not listening to the following. http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=158 - David -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here we have some interesting results before the Fedora 8 Release. - - We are invited to write many articles for 4 Magazines (2 Brazilians, 2 International) about Fedora and Fedora 8 Werewolf. - - Many lectures presented around Brazilian states. - - New collaborators and ambassadors are coming to the Latin American Project and local projects. - - All Brazilians free software sites was published the Fedora 8 news release. - - I Fedora Latin American Ambassadors and Users Conference realized with great success (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LATINOWARE) More results are coming soon! Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Brazilian Fedora Project http://www.projetofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHSc87Pg3HAC1vlg4RAg8GAJ9umABycMFq1pXSEpy/7JNxi/k/YwCfRkIz VULvh6/xWjBFRgYUU1H/lec= =OUW3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sun Nov 25 19:40:37 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:40:37 -0500 Subject: Fedora 8 - Some initial Results (Brazilian Community and Latin Comunity) In-Reply-To: <4749CF3B.2040301@projetofedora.org> References: <4749CF3B.2040301@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <4749CFB5.9070104@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Oh.. sorry... "after the Fedora 8 release." Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escreveu: > Hi All!! > > Here we have some interesting results before the Fedora 8 Release. > > - We are invited to write many articles for 4 Magazines (2 Brazilians, 2 > International) about Fedora and Fedora 8 Werewolf. > - Many lectures presented around Brazilian states. > - New collaborators and ambassadors are coming to the Latin American > Project and local projects. > - All Brazilians free software sites was published the Fedora 8 news > release. > - I Fedora Latin American Ambassadors and Users Conference realized with > great success (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LATINOWARE) > > > More results are coming soon! > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > Brazilian Fedora Project > http://www.projetofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHSc+1Pg3HAC1vlg4RAtgRAKCHLP5IpO2s4cBp+EgYyzaKVp7YhgCgycKR Ka/Kta6U3ybtvxthSm+w2sM= =oujw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ayrtonaqj at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 16:44:14 2007 From: ayrtonaqj at gmail.com (AJ) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:44:14 -0400 Subject: Fedora 8 - Some initial Results (Brazilian Community and Latin Comunity) In-Reply-To: <4749CF3B.2040301@projetofedora.org> References: <4749CF3B.2040301@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <20a82c720711250844p32402cc0l775c0afc129e7619@mail.gmail.com> Very good =D -- "???????" 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If you poured your heart and soul into Fedora > I'd advice not listening to the following. > > http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=158 Highlights: - Icons between the desktop and menu are inconsistent - Nodoka is ugly - The red swatch in libnotify is awful - Anaconda is dated * Partitioning prescreen is useless/confusing * Did not detect other existing Linux installs for grub - Live media install tried installing files before formatting was complete - grub screen was a bit "off" style-wise - GNOME Online Desktop is underwhelming - Fedora should focus more on the desktop - NetworkManager *needs* to be integrated with s-c-network (my interpretation) - A point release with fixes would be nice to see OTOH, codeina and PulseAudio worked well, and s-c-firewall shows promise. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Think it's quite a difficult thing to illustrate. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/ThomasFitzsimmons Best wishes, Jon From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 26 20:12:09 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:42:09 +0530 Subject: IcedTea interview In-Reply-To: <1196106951.2951.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1196106951.2951.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <474B2899.9010102@fedoraproject.org> Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm just putting together the IcedTea interview...any suggestions for > pictures that could go with it? Think it's quite a difficult thing to > illustrate. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/ThomasFitzsimmons Right. I just used the Java mascot in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary Rahul From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 20:50:38 2007 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:50:38 -0600 Subject: Linux Action Show! Fedora 8 hatchetjob review In-Reply-To: <1196011901.24136.39.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <1196005446.2793.9.camel@dawkins> <1196011901.24136.39.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <474B319E.4010706@gmail.com> All in all, I think the review is a good thing and shows some criticism that I wasn't necessarily seeing in other reviews. They highlight a lot of points to work and improve on for Fedora 9+ Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 16:44 +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > >> Chris and Bryan over at the Linux Action Show Podcast took the time to >> play with F8 for 2 weeks. If you poured your heart and soul into Fedora >> I'd advice not listening to the following. >> >> http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=158 >> > > Highlights: > > - Icons between the desktop and menu are inconsistent > - Nodoka is ugly > - The red swatch in libnotify is awful > - Anaconda is dated > * Partitioning prescreen is useless/confusing > * Did not detect other existing Linux installs for grub > - Live media install tried installing files before formatting was > complete > - grub screen was a bit "off" style-wise > - GNOME Online Desktop is underwhelming > - Fedora should focus more on the desktop > - NetworkManager *needs* to be integrated with s-c-network (my > interpretation) > - A point release with fixes would be nice to see > > OTOH, codeina and PulseAudio worked well, and s-c-firewall shows > promise. > > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Mon Nov 26 23:30:10 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:30:10 +0000 Subject: Fedora + IcedTea Message-ID: <1196119811.2951.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hey, The IcedTea interview is now up. Thomas didn't have a picture handy that we could use so that bit's been left out. Check it out at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/ThomasFitzsimmons and digg it at: http://digg.com/linux_unix/IcedTea_free_Java_in_Fedora_8 Best wishes all, I'm going to bed! Jon From david at lovesunix.net Mon Nov 26 21:13:37 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:13:37 +0100 Subject: Linux Action Show! Fedora 8 hatchetjob review In-Reply-To: <474B319E.4010706@gmail.com> References: <1196005446.2793.9.camel@dawkins> <1196011901.24136.39.camel@ignacio.lan> <474B319E.4010706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1196111617.2729.8.camel@dawkins> man, 26 11 2007 kl. 14:50 -0600, skrev Michael Beckwith: > All in all, I think the review is a good thing and shows some criticism > that I wasn't necessarily seeing in other reviews. They highlight a lot > of points to work and improve on for Fedora 9+ My main beef with this review was that it was mainly based on the subjective opinion about our new look. I e.g. really like it, I think it looks much more professional than anything we had before. Any real criticism sadly drowned in the sea of insults. It's a theme, say you don't like it and make some suggestions to improve it, don't harp on the "it plain sucks" line for 5 mins that's not constructive. - David -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dette er en digitalt underskrevet brevdel URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Nov 27 15:53:47 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:53:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: 2007-11-21 Fedora Store meeting summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a bunch of other Fedora-related stuff going on, and I'm going to need to skip this week's Store SIG meeting. The next meeting will be on December 5th, at the same time, etc. Thanks, Max On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Max Spevack wrote: > All, > > I've updated our list of open action items: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store > > And also posted today's IRC log: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store/Meetings/2007-11-21 > > Talk to you all next week. > > Happy Thanksgiving, if you are into that whole thing! > > --Max > > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 29 20:31:08 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:01:08 +0530 Subject: OLPC sued for patent infringement in Nigeria Message-ID: <474F218C.5070601@fedoraproject.org> Hi, The peril of patents on software... http://lwn.net/Articles/260053/ "A company called Lagos Analysis Corporation has sent out a press release announcing a patent infringement lawsuit against the One Laptop Per Child project. "The patent infringement lawsuit was filed on November 22nd, 2007 as a result of OLPC's willful infringement of LANCOR's Nigeria Registered Design Patent #RD8489 and illegal reverse engineering of its keyboard driver source codes for use in the XO Laptops." The patent text is hard to find, but it seems to relate to the design of keyboards which facilitate the typing of text in multiple languages." Rahul From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Thu Nov 29 22:23:23 2007 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:23:23 -0600 Subject: OLPC sued for patent infringement in Nigeria In-Reply-To: <474F218C.5070601@fedoraproject.org> References: <474F218C.5070601@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <474F3BDB.5030704@prodigy.net.mx> Rahul Sundaram escribi?: > Hi, > > The peril of patents on software... > > http://lwn.net/Articles/260053/ > > "A company called Lagos Analysis Corporation has sent out a press > release announcing a patent infringement lawsuit against the One > Laptop Per Child project. "The patent infringement lawsuit was filed > on November 22nd, 2007 as a result of OLPC's willful infringement of > LANCOR's Nigeria Registered Design Patent #RD8489 and illegal reverse > engineering of its keyboard driver source codes for use in the XO > Laptops." The patent text is hard to find, but it seems to relate to > the design of keyboards which facilitate the typing of text in > multiple languages." > > Rahul > There's one thing I don't get about this... The patent holder had plenty of time to warn about this, especially with the immense coverage and media OLPC has had in the last couple of years, why wait until now? I mean, the patent holder works in the computer field, and (unless they've been living under a rock in Nigeria) he must have known of the OLPC and the XO for LONG time. Why not say anything before? From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Nov 29 22:36:52 2007 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:36:52 -0500 Subject: OLPC sued for patent infringement in Nigeria In-Reply-To: <474F3BDB.5030704@prodigy.net.mx> References: <474F218C.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <474F3BDB.5030704@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <20071129173652.3763ebc2@j2solutions.net> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:23:23 -0600 Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > There's one thing I don't get about this... The patent holder had > plenty of time to warn about this, especially with the immense > coverage and media OLPC has had in the last couple of years, why wait > until now? I mean, the patent holder works in the computer field, and > (unless they've been living under a rock in Nigeria) he must have > known of the OLPC and the XO for LONG time. Why not say anything > before? Because before it would have been a lot easier for OLPC to make a change. But now things are so far along, that OLPC may find it a lot harder to change and will need to either prove their case in court or come to a settlement. That's the typical strategy, wait until it's the most painful time possible to launch your attack. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (jkeating.livejournal.com) Fedora Project (fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hudsonman35 at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 03:46:23 2007 From: hudsonman35 at gmail.com (Markus McLaughlin) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:46:23 -0500 Subject: Fedora 9 Names/Themes Ideas Message-ID: The names that come to mind are Vulcan, Vader, HAL, Cyberdine (Terminator Reference,) Suomi (Linus Torvalds' Reference,) Hawking, and Fife (Don Knotts' Reference) for Fedora 9 or 10. As far as a theme, a ST-TNG "LCARS" style desktop that has a similar look to those screens Data and Picard are always using on TNG. Or a "Virtual Library" or "Virtual Cinema" theme. Sometime this coming winter, I hope to have a FTP server set up with Fedora 8 or 9 "Everything" set available for anyone to download a component of Fedora! I am still hoping to find amateur writers willing to review Linux Distributions for my Linux Blog. Happy Holidays from an ambitious Linux & Mac User/Aspiring Screenwriter in Hudson, MA.... Mark McLaughlin linuxglobe.wordpress.com / marknetproductions.wordpress.com Hudson, MA, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ayrtonaqj at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 03:53:50 2007 From: ayrtonaqj at gmail.com (AJ) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:53:50 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9 Names/Themes Ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20a82c720711291953r205d4d1bscea58225081f30f1@mail.gmail.com> Vulcan is a nice name =) -- "???????" AJ From svbrand at alumnos.inf.utfsm.cl Fri Nov 30 05:02:12 2007 From: svbrand at alumnos.inf.utfsm.cl (Sven von Brand) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:02:12 -0300 Subject: Fedora 9 Names/Themes Ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474F9954.1000302@alumnos.inf.utfsm.cl> Markus McLaughlin wrote: > The names that come to mind are Vulcan, Vader, HAL, Cyberdine (Terminator > Reference,) Suomi (Linus Torvalds' Reference,) Hawking, and Fife (Don > Knotts' Reference) for Fedora 9 or 10. I find those way to hard for a distribution that's trying to gain field in the Regular User, I think it should be softer. And also I don't see those names coming along with the current naming standards... > As far as a theme, a ST-TNG "LCARS" style desktop that has a similar look to > those screens Data and Picard are always using on TNG. Or a "Virtual > Library" or "Virtual Cinema" theme. That sounds very interesting, when can we see a first draft ^^? >[...] -- Sven von Brand Laredo Estudiante de Ing. Civil Informatica, UTFSM Fedora Ambassador for Chile Coordinador Ciclo Charlas Tecnicas, DI, UTFSM From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Nov 30 06:31:10 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:31:10 +0200 Subject: Fedora 9 Names/Themes Ideas In-Reply-To: <474F9954.1000302@alumnos.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <474F9954.1000302@alumnos.inf.utfsm.cl> Message-ID: <474FAE2E.60400@nicubunu.ro> Sven von Brand wrote: > Markus McLaughlin wrote: > >> As far as a theme, a ST-TNG "LCARS" style desktop that has a similar look to >> those screens Data and Picard are always using on TNG. Or a "Virtual >> Library" or "Virtual Cinema" theme. > > That sounds very interesting, when can we see a first draft ^^? Hopefully on the Art list :p We started the process [1] a couple of days ago and are waiting for the first round of concepts. [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro