Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

Rahul Sundaram sundaram at fedoraproject.org
Fri Oct 5 16:33:56 UTC 2007

Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> Maybe we could leave off the TM but include somewhere some 
>> lighthearted fine print about it being a trademark irony 
>> notwithstanding and we know that sounds silly but hey, gotta use the 
>> law to protect freedom too. I'm too tired to be really witty right now 
>> but maybe someone else can pick up from there. :)
> Maybe.
> Let me be honest about another motivation: my suspicions about the 
> general usefulness of "protecting the marks" of open source projects.
> I admire the Debian practice of having some marks that are fiercely 
> protected, and other marks that are completely open.  The Debian swirl 
> is completely open; the Debian swirl atop the genie bottle is fiercely 
> protected.  Which has allowed the open Debian mark to proliferate.
> I'd hoped to get this kind of agreement with Red Hat legal in regards to 
> the Fedora mark -- i.e. create an open Fedora mark that anyone could use 
> in any way they wished -- but was unsuccessful.

The mascot is a way to accomplish that without a second logo IMO. Worth 


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