Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 54, Issue 6

Markus McLaughlin hudsonman35 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 6 18:52:02 UTC 2008 

I am curious about what will be improved and added for F-11...

Markus McLaughlin
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>   1. Feedback on "The ups and downs of Fedora 10" (Rahul Sundaram)
>   2. First Look: Fedora 10 OS (Rahul Sundaram)
>   3. FEL needs your help (Chitlesh GOORAH)
>   4. Re: FEL needs your help (Francesco Ugolini)
>   5. Re: Cool install Icons? (John Mackay)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:25:58 +0530
> From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Feedback on "The ups and downs of Fedora 10"
> To: dsbonnell at yahoo.com
> Cc: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base
>    <fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <4939B17E.5050502 at fedoraproject.org>
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> Hi Northbear,
>
> I came across your short review of Fedora 10 at
>
> http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2&aid=498
>
> Thank for your review. I would like to add some comments to provide  
> more
> information and correct a few inaccuracies in your article.
>
> You claim that the installation is almost exactly same as Fedora 8.
> Apart from resizing support you have noted, it seems that you have
> missed out a number of other changes. These are covered in
>
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Installer.html#sn-Changes-in-Anaconda
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#sn-Changes_in_Anaconda
>
> "Well, Fedora/RedHat has always been very picky about letting in
> software that might be "tainted", so there's no way that the resize  
> code
> will work on NTFS filesystems."
>
> This is incorrect. As noted, in your review, your are commenting about
> something without even trying it. Fedora has included comprehensive  
> NTFS
> support for quite a few releases now and has also supported resizing
> Windows partitions from Fedora 9 onwards.
>
> "Whoa! The new "Plymouth" loader is fast! You won't get much in the  
> way
> of fancy graphics during bootup unless you have a video chipset that  
> is
> supported with "kernel mode" (currently only some Intel chipsets)."
>
> This is only partially correct. Plymouth relies on kernel mode setting
> support but that is available only for ATI cards and not for Intel  
> ones.
> Intel was supported in between but there is a rewrite going on in
> upstream and is still disabled in the general release. You can however
> get fancy graphics by using vga=0x318 or vga=ask and choosing a
> appropriate mode which would make Plymouth use framebuffer instead of
> KMS to display a very cool bootup screen.
>
> There is a rewrite of GDM and currently.
>
> http://live.gnome.org/GDM/NewDesign
>
> it just inherits the system settings and does not have separate  
> theming
> support. The roadmap for changes is at
>
> http://live.gnome.org/GDM/
>
> For the Xorg autoconfiguration, we don't need to fallback into manual
> settings again but instead add the specific hardware information to a
> database and use that for automatically doing the right thing even if
> the hardware is old or using analog connections as yours does. Please
> file a bug report in http://bugzilla.redhat.com with the output of
> /var/log/Xorg.log. We can fix this and send the fix upstream for the
> benefit for all distributions as well.
>
> KDE 4: Again, would be quite useful to get bug report to keep track of
> the issues and address them
>
> PackageKit: The PackageKit daemon is not a regular service and hence  
> it
> is not managed by the service administration gui. It is a system
> activated daemon and automatically starts on demand and stops as  
> soon as
> the task is done.
>
> It would be great if you could update your review to include all these
> information and provide us with some bug reports on the warts you have
> noted. Once again, thank you for your review. We appreciate your  
> input.
>
> Rahul
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:37:35 +0530
> From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: First Look: Fedora 10 OS
> To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base
>    <fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com>
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> Hi,
>
> http://rcpmag.com/news/article.aspx?editorialsid=10433
>
> "Fedora 10 is one of the most visually attractive distros that I've  
> used
> in a while. It features GNOME 2.24 with a new blue and silver "Solar"
> theme. It offers a wide variety of themes and wallpapers, a nice touch
> for Linux-based distros. All fonts on the Fedora 10 user interface are
> readable and properly anti-aliased."
>
> Rahul
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 14:06:58 +0100
> From: "Chitlesh GOORAH" <chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com>
> Subject: FEL needs your help
> To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user
>    base"    <fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com>
> Cc: fedora-electronic-lab-list at redhat.com
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> Hello Fedora Marketing,
>
> As you are all already familiar with FEL, I'll skip the introduction.
>
> For F-10 FEL development, Aanjhaan and Thibault joined me to maintain
> FEL, but now they are both very busy. I have many plans and many
> features for F-11 FEL, but alone (with very little time) I would have
> to reduce my participation as an ambassador, mentor, package reviewer
> and support for other opensource communities.
>
> I am going to meet (on my own expenses) :
> * some automotive engineers next weekend to see how Fedora can propose
> a portfolio "electronic design" for the automotive industry. (e.g.
> doing measurements: roll, pitch, yaw ...)
> * some XMOS designers to see how existing opensource tools can embrace
> XMOS support (sometimes in January).
>
> As you can see, I'm looking forward to elevate Fedora status for
> professional production purposes. If I succeed, I assume that there
> will many companies, educational institutions and end-users who will
> be deploying more than 5 Fedora installations at ONE time. This is my
> fedora marketing strategy. If I have time EPEL repository can also
> benefit from this, thereby CentOS/RHEL users will also be happy.
>
> I would appreciate if ambassadors could contact their local
> universities (Electronic department, to be precised), and inform them
> about Fedora's investment in the electronic design community.
> http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/10/fel-flyer-f10.pdf
>
> You will find FEL todo list here (which will be updated with time):
> http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/devel/FEL_devel_timeline.html
> So if you think someone could help with Fedora electronic portfolio,
> please do introduce him/her to FEL's mailing list.
>
> I have also another objective: to bring various upstream closer and
> try to encourage them not to re-invent the wheel but focus on
> providing industry-class solutions for the opensource community. Of
> course, fedora will benefit from it first.
>
> If time allows, I'll also engage myself (as I promised to Tom
> Callaway) with some upstream developers to open their software into a
> GPL-compatible license. So if you know someone with legal skills,
> please welcome him/her to join the Fedora family.
>
> If you know a local blogger about electronics, please propose them to
> write a blog post about "Fedora and its electronic portfolio".
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> thank you.
>
> Kind regards,
> Chitlesh
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 14:14:05 +0100
> From: "Francesco Ugolini" <fugolini at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: FEL needs your help
> To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user
>    base"    <fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com>
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> 2008/12/6 Chitlesh GOORAH <chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com>:
>> I would appreciate if ambassadors could contact their local
>> universities (Electronic department, to be precised), and inform them
>> about Fedora's investment in the electronic design community.
>> http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/10/fel-flyer-f10.pdf
>
> Sure, I will send, late this evening or tomorrow, an email in
> Ambassadors List encouraging this.
>
> Thank you for FEL
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:21:41 -0600
> From: "John Mackay" <mackay3 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Cool install Icons?
> To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user
>    base"    <fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com>
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>
> lol, anyone has screenshots? I have found this at google, but dunno  
> if it's
> the real thing.
> http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:6t_JA9W3smlFAM:http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/photos/Redhat_Linux_Install_Kitchen.jpg
>
> 2008/12/5 Lucas - Linux Sys. Admin (CEFETCE/UAB) <lucas at cefetce.br>
>
>> I do think we should invest more time on eye-candy stuff for the
>> installations process, altough some people think that pretty things  
>> dont do
>> good stuff..
>> but who know, maybe we can make a diference, dont we ?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Rudolf Kastl <che666 at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 2008/12/5 Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro>:
>>>> Scott Baker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be possible to resurrect something silly like that  
>>>>> during the
>>>>> install? The current install images aren't nearly as exciting.  
>>>>> Honestly
>>> I
>>>>> couldn't even tell you what they say! But I *do* remember those  
>>>>> hotdog
>>>>> install screens from all the way back in RH8/9 from six years ago.
>>> That's
>>>>> good marketing!
>>>>
>>>> This was talked a few times in the past: we still have the hooks in
>>>> Anaconda, Art would be interested to try something, Marketing may  
>>>> be
>>>> interested in using this promo venue... we didn't had someone to  
>>>> take
>>>> leadership on it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com
>>>> Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
>>>> Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
>>>> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro
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>>>
>>> the way it is now though it looks very professional and polished.
>>> (sure a subjective taste question)
>>>
>>> kind regards,
>>> Rudolf Kastl
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Atenciosamente,
>> Lucas do Amaral
>> CEFET-CE - UAB-CE.
>> Linux System Administrator Trainee
>> Fedora Ambassador & Fedora Translator
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