What are we doing wrong? WAS Re: ubuntu marketing
michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com
Sat Feb 23 18:49:38 UTC 2008
Welcome to the bleeding edge.
Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Jonathan Roberts
> <jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> We fix the problem by
>> > standing here and reminding people that Europe is not immune to this
>> > threat. It's real damn easy to pretend the problem is just a US
>> > issue...its not. Its a looming legal issue everywhere. We don't win
>> > long term by ignoring it. We'll have this same discussion every
>> > single release cycle.. and I'm okay with that. Patents are the biggest
>> > problem facing the open source ecosystem, and I'd rather have Fedora
>> > stand here and be a beacon for rational, passionate, discussion on the
>> > issue, than to just side step the issue for the sake of collecting a
>> > few more users in our userbase.
>> > Fedora to achieve is core goals of fostering open innovation.
>> > I need 'enough' users... i need 'enough' upstream developers.. i need
>> > 'enough' maintainers.. I need 'enough' triagers... I need 'enough'
>> > artists... I need 'enough writers...I need 'enough' translators....
>> > and give them 'enough' open infrastructure by which to communicate as
>> > partners in the process of open innovation.
>> > What I don't need is proprietary software.
>> > I don't need to be greedy for Fedora to reach its prime objectives. I
>> > am perfectly okay with other distribution existing and being popular.
>> > The future of ALL linux distributions runs through what is happening
>> > as part of Fedora...and I'm perfectly happy with that.
>> OK, how about we try and turn this thread into some positive energy!?
>> What's been said, that Fedora is here to take a stand and to help try
>> and change the legal issues that cause problems for those of us who
>> want to be creative and share with each other, is very true. I believe
>> that the majority of Fedora's contributing community are here and
>> taking part because they support this view. Jef's also said that this
>> conversation comes up during every release cycle - and even I've been
>> around long enough to see that this is true - so we must be doing
>> something wrong, somewhere, in communicating this part of our mission
>> to the outside world and newer members of our community.
>> The questions I now have are:
>> * Where are we going wrong currently?
>> * How can we make changes to improve this?
>> The best selling point, imho, for free software is the freedom's that
>> it affords us. Likewise, Fedora's strongest selling point is the stand
>> it takes to help defend and make these freedoms available to anybody
>> who wants them. So how can we promote this better? I might reply to my
>> own thread in a while with my thoughts on this!
> updates on -stable branch goes too fast! :P (well, at least thats the
> complain which I hear quite frequent). This caused regression
> problems. Things work at first, but breaks after an update. Being in
> fedora stable to them feels like being in -devel branch of other
> Maybe revise the update policy?.
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