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Re: Ref:Re: Some users feedback on F8 LiveCD



Rahul Sundaram escribió:
Preventing a cluttered menu can be a pretty good reason.
Well there are pretty much zero reasons why you would want to launch applications like bug buddy on their own. They are helper apps. Similarly the normal workflow is to click on a pdf file which evince would open up and not launch evince and try to locate the file (ie) document centric instead of application centric. The success of the model is clear in the fact that you didn't even realize that some apps were hidden till now.

Indeed. Have into account that I'm conducting this "little experiment" with some friends and relatives who have never used Linux in any way or form, and some of them have never even heard of it or any distribution before. Indeed it is interesting to see these model differences in "the wild". I now have something very interesting to say about why it is this way, along the lines of "It's all about your *documents*, NOT the application" or something to such effect. Thanks for the clarification.

Not sure what exactly you are referring to here but you should probably file a enhancement in bugzilla. Otherwise most of the feedback would just get lost

Ok, in a nutshell: When a user selects his/her native language in the Language dialog in GDM, that should also have the effect of "somehow" (that's what I'm not too sure would be feasible) also select the appropriate keyboard layout for that language. For instance, in this case, the language would be Spanish-Mexico, and they keyboard layout would be Latinamerican, however upon selecting the language in GDM, the keyboard layout in the session remains US English (which is substantially different!). I was actually kind of expecting this to be subject to objections from those users I handed the LiveCDs to, and to minimize that I handed also detailed instructions on how to change that. The feedback I got was that the instructions were very much appreciated, and "Why is that the appropriate layout is not selected upon language selection?" question. Thanks for the pointer, I'll open an RFE in Bugzilla as soon as I can.

These recent efforts had made me want to try to play around with the LiveCD tools to create a "respin" with localized OOo, of course I know why it was left out of the LiveCDs (it simply takes too much disk space, and having all locales amounts almost to an entire 700Mb CD), I wonder how much it would take with only one extra locale (as I understand US English is "hardcoded"). At any rate, this is no topic for marketing, but rather for the LiveCD or Desktop lists. Thanks again for your input.

You can squeeze in OOo with just one locale. I have created a number of spins like that. Feel free to reuse them to create your own custom spin with any locale you want.

http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-assamese.ks
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-bengali.ks
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-gujarati.ks
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-hindi.ks
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-kannada.ks
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-malayalam.ks http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-marathi.ks
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-oriya.ks
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-punjabi.ks
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-tamil.ks
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-telugu.ks

Interesting, I'll have a look to those kickstart files and use as a base for one for Spanish_MX (or rather Spanish_ES, considered the international implementation of the language, so even more people could benefit... Darn, too much to do, and so little time!). Thanks again for your suggestions and input.

Rahul


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