IRC LOG of 2009.02.12 Meeting

Tue Feb 17 19:00:25 UTC 2009

Hey All,

Attached below is the log of the meeting.  I am working on getting it up 
on the wiki as well.  Hopefeully from next week, moixs will be able to 
just post them straight to the wiki with the summary in an email instead 
of the whole log in the email.

The email and everything else that I spoke about is forthcoming...

Thanks,
Jack

2009-02-12T18:59:50  <themayor> hey the marketing meeting is in here
2009-02-12T18:59:54  <fugolini2> hi
2009-02-12T19:00:03  <themayor> hey fugolini2 whats up
2009-02-12T19:00:12  <Rodrigo_Padula> fugolini2, you are doing a great 
work as FAMSCO's leader
2009-02-12T19:00:15  <fugolini2> fine, you?
2009-02-12T19:00:21  <themayor> multiple personality disorder
2009-02-12T19:00:29  <fugolini2> Rodrigo_Padula: I'm doing what I can 
do, in the best way I'm able to do :)
2009-02-12T19:00:30  <themayor> ;)
2009-02-12T19:00:52  <fugolini2> btw, the great from FAmSCo came from 
the amazing works all of you are doing
2009-02-12T19:01:43  <fugolini2> *come
2009-02-12T19:01:47  <themayor> okay, let the marketing meeting come to 
order
2009-02-12T19:01:56  <fugolini2> sure, sorry for the off-topic
2009-02-12T19:02:05  <themayor> roll call
2009-02-12T19:02:17  <fugolini2> Francesco Ugolini
2009-02-12T19:02:46  <biertie> Bert Desmet
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2009-02-12T19:03:40  * Rodrigo_Padula going!! se you guys!
2009-02-12T19:03:46  <moixs> I'm late, sorry
2009-02-12T19:03:46  *** Rodrigo_Padula has left #fedora-meeting
2009-02-12T19:03:47  <themayor> okay
2009-02-12T19:03:49  <themayor> np
2009-02-12T19:03:54  <themayor> we will give it a few minutes
2009-02-12T19:04:23  <fugolini2> I've read Ian would be there
2009-02-12T19:04:40  <themayor> yeah he said "might"
2009-02-12T19:05:40  <themayor> we are just waiting on a couple people
2009-02-12T19:06:43  * herlo is here :)
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2009-02-12T19:07:22  <biertie> this meeting will be a great succes again :')
2009-02-12T19:07:23  <jeremy> 000000000000.
2009-02-12T19:07:46  <themayor> lol
2009-02-12T19:08:20  <themayor> anyway dont worry about it its quality 
not quantity
2009-02-12T19:08:29  <fugolini2> I think the problem is that people 
don't understand what marketing really is
2009-02-12T19:08:30  <herlo> heh
2009-02-12T19:08:54  <fugolini2> i don't want to say people are stupid, 
but marketing list sometime could cause that the aim could be hidden
2009-02-12T19:09:19  <themayor> anyway thats good because thats what i 
wanted to talk about
2009-02-12T19:10:17  <themayor> okay great that the wiki is down
2009-02-12T19:10:20  <themayor> it will let us focus
2009-02-12T19:10:23  *** fugolini1 has quit IRC
2009-02-12T19:10:25  <themayor> i want to pitch something to you guys
2009-02-12T19:10:31  <themayor> to hopefully get things back in shape
2009-02-12T19:10:50  <themayor> okay ready
2009-02-12T19:10:57  <themayor> let me start by asking you guys a question
2009-02-12T19:11:02  <themayor> whats wrong with marketing?
2009-02-12T19:11:07  <themayor> or what do you think is wrong?
2009-02-12T19:11:30  *** herlo changes topic to "Marketing Meeting - 
Happening Now"
2009-02-12T19:11:34  <themayor> im not being condesceding i want to 
pitch something to you guys but i need to know what you think first
2009-02-12T19:12:07  <fugolini2> I think there are two big different 
interested mixed in one list and that cause big confusion
2009-02-12T19:12:14  <fugolini2> *interests
2009-02-12T19:12:27  <themayor> fugolini2: which interests?
2009-02-12T19:12:51  <fugolini2> Sorry for my bad wording, btw, I'll try 
to clean up my toughts
2009-02-12T19:13:05  <biertie> I don't understand what you mean too :)
2009-02-12T19:13:06  <fugolini2> The first interest is marketing 
planning, with all the connected stuffs
2009-02-12T19:13:59  <fugolini2> the second one is general marketing 
relations, like news catching and PR etc...
2009-02-12T19:14:31  <themayor> good, yes, you are correct in a certain 
sensew
2009-02-12T19:14:33  <themayor> anyone else?
2009-02-12T19:14:40  <themayor> im just trying to see what is perceived
2009-02-12T19:14:55  * fugolini2 ask all of you to rethink in good 
english what I mean, I'm sure it's simpler that it seems
2009-02-12T19:14:58  <moixs> I see te same problem
2009-02-12T19:15:09  <moixs> No, it's perfectly clear
2009-02-12T19:15:58  <herlo> themayor: we had our discussion the other 
day, but I'll reflect my thoughts again if you like
2009-02-12T19:16:05  <themayor> no thats fine
2009-02-12T19:16:11  <themayor> because it was the same vein
2009-02-12T19:16:11  <herlo> k
2009-02-12T19:16:15  <herlo> yesd
2009-02-12T19:16:22  <themayor> herlo: not that i dont want your opinion
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2009-02-12T19:16:32  <themayor> but at this point we are just restarting 
stuff
2009-02-12T19:16:34  <herlo> themayor: but you alread have it :)
2009-02-12T19:16:41  <themayor> let me ask lcafiero
2009-02-12T19:16:43  * lcafiero sneaks in and sits in the bak
2009-02-12T19:16:43  <themayor> shhhh
2009-02-12T19:16:56  <themayor> lcafiero: what can we improve on in 
marketing
2009-02-12T19:17:14  <lcafiero> (look around the room) me?
2009-02-12T19:17:37  <themayor> yes, just play along
2009-02-12T19:17:39  <biertie> I think it will be difficult to seperate 
those 2 things?
2009-02-12T19:17:46  <lcafiero> I think that marketing is doing well. 
We've talked about the meetings in other channels, where I thought they 
were a little hard to follow for newbs like yours truly
2009-02-12T19:18:36  <themayor> ah well maybe your greeness hasnt 
offered much in the way of perspective
2009-02-12T19:18:51  <themayor> but im glad that someone feels like we 
are getting something out of it!
2009-02-12T19:18:57  <themayor> anyway, let me go
2009-02-12T19:19:03  <themayor> if you guy dont mind, that is
2009-02-12T19:19:06  <lcafiero> Well, it doesn't stop me from having 
opinions, of course, but I think that executing what you plan seems to work
2009-02-12T19:19:19  <lcafiero> in this group
2009-02-12T19:19:48  <lcafiero> and that's essentially what counts.
2009-02-12T19:20:15  * fugolini2 is starting thinking M-Ls are too 
dispersive, and sometime, without a good email client you daily life 
could be complicated
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2009-02-12T19:20:35  <themayor> yes
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2009-02-12T19:21:04  <themayor> okay so let me tell you guys what i think
2009-02-12T19:21:09  <themayor> marketing sucks
2009-02-12T19:21:12  <themayor> its broken
2009-02-12T19:21:16  <themayor> its down for the count
2009-02-12T19:21:34  <themayor> but i know why and i think i have a good 
plan to make things run better and more effeciently
2009-02-12T19:21:39  <biertie> but how will you get fedora popular 
without marketing?
2009-02-12T19:21:49  <biertie> because ambassadors are a part of the 
marketing team
2009-02-12T19:22:03  <biertie> and we just need that marketing team I 
think..
2009-02-12T19:22:09  <themayor> yes, i know, hold on, let me get to it
2009-02-12T19:22:14  <themayor> we have 3 issues
2009-02-12T19:22:54  <themayor> 1. we have no organization of workflow
2009-02-12T19:23:21  <themayor> what this means is, we have tasks, we 
have things to accomplish, we get them done, but its very informally tracked
2009-02-12T19:23:31  <themayor> a task list here, an email there
2009-02-12T19:23:33  <themayor> nothing solid
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2009-02-12T19:24:11  <moixs_> my router had the good idea to reboot 
itself, can you pastebin what you just said themayor ?
2009-02-12T19:24:11  <themayor> so in other words, tasks, goals and 
pretty much everything is not well organized
2009-02-12T19:24:19  <themayor> yes one sec
2009-02-12T19:24:22  * fugolini2 moixs i'll do it
2009-02-12T19:24:47  <themayor> thanks fugolini2
2009-02-12T19:24:54  <themayor> okay problem 2
2009-02-12T19:25:35  <moixs_> (I'm in again, agreed)
2009-02-12T19:25:55  <themayor> 2. we dont not have a clear way to 
delineate responsibility
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2009-02-12T19:26:03  <themayor> meaning people pick up tasks at random
2009-02-12T19:26:06  * fugolini2 np
2009-02-12T19:26:08  <themayor> thats not bad
2009-02-12T19:26:15  <themayor> we get things done, but the problem 
there is this
2009-02-12T19:26:33  <themayor> there is alot of confusion, alot of 
miscommunication and a lack of communication due to that
2009-02-12T19:26:36  <themayor> and what happens is this
2009-02-12T19:27:04  <themayor> people dont do things, not because of 
laziness, but because they are afraid to step on someones toes
2009-02-12T19:27:17  <themayor> if you dont know who has the ball, its 
hard to ask them to pass
2009-02-12T19:27:29  <themayor> what do you guys think about that?
2009-02-12T19:27:38  <themayor> theres is 1 more problem by the way
2009-02-12T19:27:39  *** willygarcia_ is now known as willy_willbeback
2009-02-12T19:27:46  <biertie> I don't think that's true
2009-02-12T19:27:52  <moixs_> go ahead and explain all the problems first :)
2009-02-12T19:27:56  * herlo kind of agrees with biertie
2009-02-12T19:28:14  <herlo> the laziness isn't the issue at all imo
2009-02-12T19:28:24  <biertie> I think some people are scared to do 
something, because they are scared to do something wrong
2009-02-12T19:28:31  <herlo> themayor: but continue to the last problem...
2009-02-12T19:28:32  <biertie> or not the way it should be done..
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2009-02-12T19:29:15  <themayor> 3. we have no way to sync workflow
2009-02-12T19:29:28  <themayor> marketing comes from 3 places
2009-02-12T19:29:43  <themayor> ambassadors, art and docs, plus us really
2009-02-12T19:30:05  <themayor> each of those distinct groups has some 
part in creating or promoting "messaging"
2009-02-12T19:30:27  <themayor> right now, marketing is not involved in 
art, at all
2009-02-12T19:30:33  <themayor> no should we be
2009-02-12T19:30:38  <themayor> but they should be involved with us
2009-02-12T19:31:26  <themayor> because we need to promote whatever 
their theme they are creating
2009-02-12T19:31:45  <themayor> docs needs to set the tone of whatever 
it is they write as well
2009-02-12T19:31:55  <themayor> and we are responsible for distilling 
and managing that
2009-02-12T19:32:03  <themayor> i.e. talking points, feature summary
2009-02-12T19:32:17  <themayor> etc etc
2009-02-12T19:32:25  <moixs_> I don't want to I don't want to toot my 
own horn, but aren't 3/4 of your griefs covered by the updated news 
distribution network proposition? We "only" need to assign people at the 
right places.
2009-02-12T19:32:53  <themayor> yes, but its deeper than that, moixs_ 
the news distribution thing only takes care of press related stuff
2009-02-12T19:33:01  <moixs_> exactly
2009-02-12T19:33:24  <moixs_> the other part I agree with, we lack a 
good organization to know who does what
2009-02-12T19:33:28  <themayor> that what i think can be upgraded, does 
anyone have any feedback on that
2009-02-12T19:33:33  <themayor> because i have a proposed solution as well
2009-02-12T19:33:44  <moixs_> go ahead :)
2009-02-12T19:33:53  <themayor> but i would like to hear feedback on the 
issues at hand first
2009-02-12T19:34:27  * herlo agrees that a well-defined workflow can 
help people who are afraid of doing something wrong
2009-02-12T19:34:45  <fugolini2> I think those point are really 
interesting and I'm sure working on those one could give a benefit for 
the whole community
2009-02-12T19:35:09  * herlo also agrees that workflow needs to have 
intersections with docs, art and ambassadors based upon specific events
2009-02-12T19:35:49  <herlo> I suspect that themayor has a plan with 
these things in min
2009-02-12T19:35:50  <herlo> d
2009-02-12T19:36:13  <herlo> Part of what I think, is that the release 
schedule should be our guide.
2009-02-12T19:36:38  <fugolini2> my answer is, how you are thinking to 
make all those 3 things done? For the 3rd point I could say Ambassadors 
are very interesting to join the process, FAmSCo, for example, is just 
investigating on what to do to help marketing
2009-02-12T19:36:43  <fugolini2> *feedback not answer
2009-02-12T19:36:54  <herlo> and we should be driving the focused 
message to the community
2009-02-12T19:37:00  <themayor> hehe
2009-02-12T19:37:12  <themayor> okay so heres my plan
2009-02-12T19:37:27  <themayor> we NEED to move to a release based schedule
2009-02-12T19:37:35  <themayor> we have a pseudo-calendar
2009-02-12T19:37:57  <themayor> starting from T-minus 1 month from 
before the alpha
2009-02-12T19:38:08  <themayor> and items to hit at each week and month 
milestone
2009-02-12T19:38:27  <themayor> those tasks get divided up to people who 
are noted on the list
2009-02-12T19:38:36  <themayor> this also makes for clearer comms
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2009-02-12T19:38:59  <themayor> on our timeline, we include things that 
need to be coordinated with art, with docs, with ambassadors
2009-02-12T19:39:10  <moixs_> This is an excellent idea, short term 
goals are always better in project management
2009-02-12T19:39:19  <themayor> so like pre-alpha we need to talk to art 
about the theme for the release
2009-02-12T19:39:33  <themayor> before beta we need to start talking to 
docs about talking points to give to press
2009-02-12T19:39:38  <themayor> or maybe thats alpha
2009-02-12T19:39:42  * herlo wants to suggest we don't wait until the 
F12 release cycle to implement this process.
2009-02-12T19:39:52  <themayor> no i dont think so either
2009-02-12T19:39:58  <herlo> we can work our the kinks this time
2009-02-12T19:40:11  <herlo> and improve each release...
2009-02-12T19:40:26  * fugolini2 agrees with herlo tought too
2009-02-12T19:40:31  <themayor> this way, if someone asks us at any 
point in time, what are you doing, who is doing it, who are they working 
with, we can answer
2009-02-12T19:40:45  * biertie agrees with herlo and themayor
2009-02-12T19:40:48  <themayor> herlo, working on testing guide, working 
with docs
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2009-02-12T19:41:13  <themayor> themayor working on press, talking with 
red hat pr
2009-02-12T19:41:29  <themayor> fugolini2 working on talking points, 
with ambasadors
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2009-02-12T19:41:32  <themayor> etc etc
2009-02-12T19:41:40  * herlo thought for a second there he'd been 
assigned stuff and didn't even know it :)
2009-02-12T19:41:40  <themayor> and as we hit each milestone we just 
check it off
2009-02-12T19:41:45  <themayor> and we know who is responsible
2009-02-12T19:41:55  <themayor> herlo: lol, no those we examples
2009-02-12T19:42:00  <themayor> you know its visual
2009-02-12T19:42:05  <biertie> but I think we should have a 'control' 
board too :)
2009-02-12T19:42:05  <herlo> :) nw
2009-02-12T19:42:06  <themayor> its easy to see and to read and understand
2009-02-12T19:42:14  <themayor> biertie: how do you mean?
2009-02-12T19:42:18  <themayor> like governance
2009-02-12T19:42:18  <biertie> so when a newbe (like me) does a job
2009-02-12T19:42:32  <biertie> and he screws up..
2009-02-12T19:43:05  <biertie> that we notice that fast enough, and set 
someone else on the job / helps him out / ...
2009-02-12T19:43:11  <themayor> thats fine thats learning on the job, 
but a release based process will help us with things like mentors and 
mentoring like biertie is talking about
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2009-02-12T19:43:28  <themayor> yes, if what we need to get done is 
clearly defined, its easy for a mentor to work with someone
2009-02-12T19:43:42  <moixs_> Funny enough, all necessary pages on the 
marketing wiki already exist, except that they are completely 
unmaintained and outdated :)
2009-02-12T19:43:51  <themayor> yes
2009-02-12T19:43:55  <themayor> what i propose is this
2009-02-12T19:44:04  <themayor> we have marketing/schedule and 
marketing/schedule/current
2009-02-12T19:44:10  <themayor> schedule is the template
2009-02-12T19:44:19  <themayor> where we put down all the tasks, 
relative dates, etc
2009-02-12T19:44:20  <moixs_> This wiki is half a piece of junk, we 
should go trough it once and delete half the pages and start with 
something fresh
2009-02-12T19:44:30  <themayor> current is the one for this release
2009-02-12T19:44:35  * herlo suggests you call it 'schedule/template' 
and 'schedule/current'
2009-02-12T19:44:44  <herlo> or somethign liek that, otherwise it could 
get confusing
2009-02-12T19:44:44  <biertie> I think that's a bit difficult moixs_ ;)
2009-02-12T19:45:00  <moixs_> And delete 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Schedule if you do this :)
2009-02-12T19:45:02  <themayor> moixs_: one day we will go through it 
and expunge the old stuff
2009-02-12T19:45:13  <themayor> but not now, too little time and too 
much to do
2009-02-12T19:45:14  <herlo> moixs_: deleting pages in the wiki is hard 
to convince ianweller to do
2009-02-12T19:45:17  <themayor> lets get back on our feet
2009-02-12T19:45:32  <biertie> buy what's old? I still know people that 
run FC5
2009-02-12T19:45:49  <themayor> no like outdated stuff from marketing he 
means
2009-02-12T19:45:58  <moixs_> :)
2009-02-12T19:46:04  <biertie> oh, srry
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2009-02-12T19:46:35  <themayor> okay so does all this stuff sound 
half-decent
2009-02-12T19:46:49  <moixs_> themayor: you seem to have a pretty clear 
idea of the milestones we need to reach for a release, it would be a 
good start to define them.
2009-02-12T19:46:55  <moixs_> it does, absolutely
2009-02-12T19:46:56  <themayor> hopefully people can see we are making 
progress and we can get people back on track and to the meetings as well
2009-02-12T19:47:06  <fugolini2> yea
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2009-02-12T19:47:12  <themayor> moixs_: well i do and i dont, but i need 
other people to tell me what i miss
2009-02-12T19:47:44  <moixs_> I have just no idea about that...except 
alpha, beta, RC and GA ;)
2009-02-12T19:47:48  <themayor> i dont know EVERYTHING marketing needs to do
2009-02-12T19:48:05  <themayor> yes, those are the milestones,
2009-02-12T19:48:12  <themayor> then we need to define the tasks around each
2009-02-12T19:48:18  <themayor> but its no for now
2009-02-12T19:48:19  <fugolini2> themayor: I'm sure what you said is 
just enought to start :)
2009-02-12T19:48:20  <herlo> themayor: how long will it take to get the 
schedule up?  I think that'll help us get a clearer idea of milestones 
and start volunteering for duties.  Next week too soon?
2009-02-12T19:48:27  <themayor> no
2009-02-12T19:48:29  <themayor> ive been working on it
2009-02-12T19:48:34  <herlo> yay
2009-02-12T19:48:39  <themayor> i would like to say that it will be up 
my monday at the latest
2009-02-12T19:48:49  <themayor> but heres the thing
2009-02-12T19:48:57  <themayor> right now, today, i need everyones help
2009-02-12T19:49:09  <themayor> im going to post this pseudo-proposal to 
the list
2009-02-12T19:49:19  <themayor> can everyone please comment on it there
2009-02-12T19:49:27  <fugolini2> sure
2009-02-12T19:49:28  <themayor> the only reason i ask is, i want to get 
more people involved
2009-02-12T19:49:39  <themayor> especially people who couldnt make it
2009-02-12T19:49:39  <biertie> ok
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2009-02-12T19:49:47  <themayor> like ianweller, jonrob, inode0, etc
2009-02-12T19:49:51  <moixs_> ok
2009-02-12T19:49:54  <themayor> for their benefit
2009-02-12T19:50:15  <herlo> sounds good...
2009-02-12T19:50:23  <moixs_> No, they worked hard i nthe past, let's 
screw them over! :p
2009-02-12T19:50:25  <themayor> i will send the whole things as one 
proposal, let people talk about it, but people need to comment, because 
alot of people think the list is dead
2009-02-12T19:50:37  <themayor> and then we pick up steam
2009-02-12T19:50:40  <themayor> i will put up the calendar
2009-02-12T19:50:58  <themayor> and some tasks, people can propose other 
tasks on the wiki too and make them part of the timeline
2009-02-12T19:51:22  <themayor> and we start working from there
2009-02-12T19:52:01  <themayor> at one point, maybe 2 weeks, we invite 
people from art, ambassadors, docs to the meeting to speak about what we 
need to sync with them and continue on the list and wiki
2009-02-12T19:52:12  <fugolini2> great!
2009-02-12T19:52:21  <biertie> sounds good! :)
2009-02-12T19:52:27  <themayor> and we use this starting immediately and 
keep improving the next few cycles, right?
2009-02-12T19:52:44  <themayor> it will be good too because we can 
easily coordinate with poelstra as well
2009-02-12T19:53:55  * moixs_ already has ideas for milestones
2009-02-12T19:53:56  <themayor> when he has his big release meetings we 
will be on the ball
2009-02-12T19:54:15  <themayor> okay so if thats that, and everyone 
agrees, that will be it, except for one thing
2009-02-12T19:54:40  <fugolini2> what?
2009-02-12T19:54:53  <themayor> thats two action items, jack put up the 
calendar and everyone else comment on my post to the list
2009-02-12T19:54:57  <themayor> and one more thing
2009-02-12T19:55:38  <themayor> can someone volunteer to make some space 
for the meeting notes on the wiki
2009-02-12T19:56:10  <moixs_> you mean the log?
2009-02-12T19:56:15  <themayor> yeah
2009-02-12T19:56:23  <themayor> we have a good system on the comm arch pages
2009-02-12T19:56:32  <themayor> basically we have a grid for meeting sates
2009-02-12T19:57:14  <themayor> dates
2009-02-12T19:57:17  <themayor> and each date is a link
2009-02-12T19:57:38  <themayor> we have a log sometimes, action items, 
anything relevant
2009-02-12T19:57:48  <moixs_> I don't have the slightest experience in 
putting up logs there, but I guess it isn't much more than a copy-paste 
and throw it in some irc2html script?
2009-02-12T19:58:04  <themayor> 'i think it will be good, alot of people 
last week were very thankful about the meetings summary because they 
couldnt be here
2009-02-12T19:58:15  <themayor> and people will feel less out of the loop
2009-02-12T19:59:25  <moixs_> What's the page it's on?
2009-02-12T19:59:30  *** mcepl has left #fedora-meeting
2009-02-12T19:59:35  <themayor> for comm arch or for marketing?
2009-02-12T19:59:55  <moixs_> 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Meetings ?
2009-02-12T20:00:12  <themayor> yeah
2009-02-12T20:00:27  <themayor> it hasnt been taken care of in years, 
moixs_ are you interested in cleaning that up
2009-02-12T20:00:57  <themayor> pretty please?
2009-02-12T20:00:59  <moixs_> Ok, I'll do it
2009-02-12T20:01:02  <themayor> thanks
2009-02-12T20:01:16  <moixs_> Note, i don't have the whole log for this week
2009-02-12T20:02:09  <themayor> okay so thats the meeting, let me just 
list again what we need to get done
2009-02-12T20:02:13  <moixs_> Can someone send it to me?
2009-02-12T20:02:30  <themayor> moixs_: i can send it to you
2009-02-12T20:02:34  <moixs_> moixs at fedoraproject.org, I'll take care of 
the formating
2009-02-12T20:02:39  <moixs_> thanks
2009-02-12T20:03:14  <biertie> ok :)
2009-02-12T20:04:02  * fugolini2 is lagged, i'm receiving everything 
5mins all the things
2009-02-12T20:04:17  <biertie> lol?
2009-02-12T20:04:56  <moixs_> So, have a nice evening :)
2009-02-12T20:05:02  <fugolini2> you too
2009-02-12T20:05:02  <moixs_> I'm really happy about this meeting
2009-02-12T20:05:45  * moixs_ thinks it's time for some TV and a beer
2009-02-12T20:05:46  <fugolini2> me too
2009-02-12T20:06:04  *** moixs_ has quit IRC
2009-02-12T20:06:22  <herlo> hehe, have fun folks
2009-02-12T20:06:49  <biertie> ok :)
2009-02-12T20:07:01  *** herlo changes topic to "Channel is used by 
various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note 
that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please 
ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel for 
meeting schedule"
2009-02-12T20:07:03  <biertie> I think too that it was a good meeting, 
srry I couldn't  help much
2009-02-12T20:07:05  <herlo> Retrieved from 
"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel"