What happened in June of 2009 within the Fedora Project?

[Gregory Zysk]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Christoph Wickert <
christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, den 14.10.2009, 17:26 +0200 schrieb Gregory Zysk:
>
>
> > >> If we interact with people outside the community, then yes we do
> > need to have some sort of metrics that reflect what we do.
>
> I don't think that the number of ambassadors reflects what we do. There
> are other ways to measure this: The number of events we do, the number
> of talks our ambassadors do or the number of Fedora installs [1] and so
>

>>>Agreed. But it gives us a start and focus as a platform to build from.

> on.
>
> Take a look at Ubuntu, they seem measure their success by the number of
> Ubuntu CDs the gave away on an event. I recall talking to a guy from
> their community and he said: "It was a very successful event for Ubuntu,
> we gave away nearly 3000 CDs." I wasn't really surprised about the high
> number because they had big boxes of CDs standing in front of their
> booth. People walked by and grabbed 10 or 20 at once while the Ubuntu
> people were sitting behind their desk and reading books.
> To me this is no success. For me it is more important to have a nice
> conversation with somebody. We talk for 5 or 10 minutes and then I give
> him a Live-CD before he leaves. I'm sure this person is much more
> interested in Fedora and has learned more about the project than
> somebody who papers his restroom with Ubuntu-CDs because they bling so
> nice. ;)
>
> >>> Agreed also. That is a waste of time and financial resources which
could be better used elsewhere.

We must not take numbers as the key to everything. Numbers do not
> reflect how well a community is working or how people actually feel as
> being part of this community. Is there a way to measure pride or
> gratitude?
>

>>>Again. Agreed. Numbers are not everything to you, but they are the basis
when trying to get sponsorship/support from other organizations (government,
NGO, For-profit, etc)

>
> > Those should, of course, be honest, but also precise. Not just a round
> > about figure. The reason being legitimacy.
>
> I think they are precise. The number of Ambassadors has decreased, but
> their quality has increased. How would you measure quality by numbers?
>

>>>Difficult. We need to build a methodology and sampling to support that.

>
> > This is one of the largest gauge for an organization which produces
> > knowledge as an output. In simple words, these figures can be used for
> > external purposes. And why not? The resources are already there (in
> > this case)
>
> What kind of external purposes do you think of?
>
> Regards,
> Christoph
>

>>>Events are good, papers at events could be one, contributions, initiated
projects, sponsorships, trainings......There are many different possible
variables that can be measured. We just have to define some and build off of
that.

>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics
>
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