From vic_sk at yahoo.com Sat Sep 17 14:42:39 2005 From: vic_sk at yahoo.com (Victor Skovorodnikov) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 07:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Introduction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050917144239.71155.qmail@web32613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, My name is Victor Skovorodnikov. I have a Fedora 4 and I am very interested in Linux and would like to make a contribution to its software development. The two main reasons for this are: 1) I am trying to break in to a career as a programmer and contributing to Fedora's software development is a great opportunity to gain extra experience. 2) I am working on a very dull and boring job (as a programmer actually) but I am discouraged to do any creative programmatic work and my employer has no apparent respect in this field and treats me as an investment rather than a person who wants to enjoy this work. My biggest concern is whether my skills are good enough to make a contribution. I studied Computer Science at the university of BC for three years that covered anything from basic programming to analysis of algorithms, databases, and computer architecture. My website is a bit outdated but it might give you more information about me: http://www.victorsk.webhop.net The password to view my resumes is 'bluesky' If there are any projects you are working on and think I can help, please let me know. At work I am currently working with VC++ 6, SVG, JavaScript, and MapBasic(which is useless to Linux). I was actually doing some amateur development of a chess game in Java but have temporarily stopped its progress because I found a full-time job. And I was thinking of suggesting a network chess game for Fedora's games section. But my chess game uses RMI and although I've managed to make it work over the firewall, it requires a server to coordinate a game between two players so there would have to be a remote server holding board information of many many users and I am not sure on practicality of this. I am willing to learn and put in as much effort as it is required to get the job done. Could you please tell me how much time you expect people you mentor to work on a package per week? What is the time frame you allow for people to complete a project? Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you, Victor. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From caillon at redhat.com Sun Sep 18 04:00:20 2005 From: caillon at redhat.com (Christopher Aillon) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:00:20 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Introduction In-Reply-To: <20050917144239.71155.qmail@web32613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050917144239.71155.qmail@web32613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <432CE654.8050402@redhat.com> On 09/17/2005 10:42 AM, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: >My name is Victor Skovorodnikov. I have a Fedora 4 and I am very interested >in Linux and would like to make a contribution to its software development. > >My biggest concern is whether my skills are good enough to make a >contribution. > >I am willing to learn and put in as much effort as it is required to get the >job done. > > Awesome. That's really what matters then. Your desire and effort are very much welcome! >Could you please tell me how much time you expect people you mentor to work >on a package per week? What is the time frame you allow for people to >complete a project? > > Well, since this is volunteer, there really is no required minimum effort. But if you find something you really enjoy want to work on, then chances are you will be more motivated to put forth more effort. So, find something interesting to you, and have fun. That's really what's important in the end anyway. I know the answer is very broad and generic, but its really important to keep that in mind. If you have any specific questions about how to do certain things, feel free to ask them here. Thanks! From marc.w at smlintl.com.au Mon Sep 19 01:30:48 2005 From: marc.w at smlintl.com.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:30:48 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Introduction In-Reply-To: <20050917144239.71155.qmail@web32613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050917144239.71155.qmail@web32613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <432E14C8.1050703@smlintl.com.au> Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: > Greetings, > > My name is Victor Skovorodnikov. I have a Fedora 4 and I am very interested > in Linux and would like to make a contribution to its software development. > The two main reasons for this are: Welcome to Fedora 4 and the Mentors program. > My biggest concern is whether my skills are good enough to make a > contribution. I studied Computer Science at the university of BC for three > years that covered anything from basic programming to analysis of > algorithms, databases, and computer architecture. My website is a bit > outdated but it might give you more information about me: > http://www.victorsk.webhop.net > The password to view my resumes is 'bluesky' Well you have good skills. Certain things might not need those skills but might need others. It really is up to you as to what you would like to do. > > If there are any projects you are working on and think I can help, please > let me know. At work I am currently working with VC++ 6, SVG, JavaScript, > and MapBasic(which is useless to Linux). > > I was actually doing some amateur development of a chess game in Java but > have temporarily stopped its progress because I found a full-time job. And > I was thinking of suggesting a network chess game for Fedora's games > section. But my chess game uses RMI and although I've managed to make it > work over the firewall, it requires a server to coordinate a game between > two players so there would have to be a remote server holding board > information of many many users and I am not sure on practicality of this. > > I am willing to learn and put in as much effort as it is required to get the > job done. > > Could you please tell me how much time you expect people you mentor to work > on a package per week? What is the time frame you allow for people to > complete a project? > It really does depend as to what you want to do. The mention from Chris as to enjoying what you are doing is very important. If you aren't interested/enjoying what program you are monitoring you just don't get involved in it. For example one program I'm interested in is not in extras and I'm learning on that. Although there are a lot of different areas you can look at depending on your taste. If you are interested in packaging and creating packages for this great distro http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras If you are interested in documentation http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject If you are interested in helping out with bugs http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers If you are interested in getting involved in the marketing of this great distro :) (slight bias) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing If you are interested in learning about how to contribute graphics. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraArt Lastly and very importantly if you want to help out extending fedora with the fedora legacy group http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legacy There should be documentation on each of the links on learning more and how to get involved. My personal suggestion is you find out what interests you and get involved with it :) Again welcome to the start of great addition to fedora. Regards Marc From vic_sk at yahoo.com Tue Sep 20 02:42:30 2005 From: vic_sk at yahoo.com (Victor Skovorodnikov) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Thank You Message-ID: <20050920024231.77236.qmail@web32609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, I just would like to thank Christopher and Marc for their comments and encouraging words in regards to my introductory email. From what I understand it is mostly up to the contributors to make their own contributions. As I have mentioned, I have been working on a Java RMI network chess game. However, due to my full-time employment and enormous requirment for this game to work properly, it would take me a while before I am able to deliver an Alpha version of this game. In my opinion, if you would like to have an addition to extras of a multiplayer chess game there are two options: 1) If it's no hurry I can work on it on my own and when I am ready, I'll provide an Alpha version for a review or, 2) I can submit a 'work-in-progress' source code so others can continue to build upon it (I just hope you'd be able to make sense of my code :-) ). In any case, I'll be happy to make a contribution to Fedora's development - it is truly my favorite distribution. Of course, any feedback will be greatly welcomed. Thank you, Victor. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From deisenst at gtw.net Tue Sep 20 09:13:01 2005 From: deisenst at gtw.net (David Eisenstein) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 04:13:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Article- "Why Linux needs a mentor program, " NewsForge Message-ID: Hi everyone, Thought you would find this article interesting. We're mentioned! Brief intro: "Imagine you're a new Linux user. You ordered an Ubuntu CD weeks ago and forgot about it. You're surprised it actually comes in the mail. You slap the shiny disc into your PC and cross your fingers. The installation is quite slick. You're impressed by the splash screen and attractive desktop. Wow, you think you're hot stuff -- a Linux user. But the euphoria fades as you realize there's a problem with your modem. Now what do you do?" http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/09/13/1816200 From info at sudje.com Tue Sep 20 08:17:42 2005 From: info at sudje.com (info at sudje.com) Date: 20 Sep 2005 17:17:42 +0900 Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] $B=P2q$$J]>ZIU!*(B!$BL5NA$J$N$K:G9b(B Message-ID: <20050920081742.21582.qmail@mail.sudje.com> $B=P2q$$J]>ZIU!*$@$+$i2q$($k!*(B $BL5NA$J$N$K:G9b$G$9!#(B $B40A4(/(.(/(.(/(B $BL5NA(5(1(0(1!s!!"+EvA3$G$9!#!!D>$0"M!!(Bhttp://www.00-love3.com/?unmei $B2q$($FEv$jA0!*!*!*(B $B$5$!!":#$NJ?K^$J at 83h$rC&=P$9$k$N$O$"$J$?$NM&5$$H7hCG$N$_!#(B $BM&5$$"$k?M"M!!(Bhttp://www.00-love3.com/?unmei $B0lDL$N%a!<%k$G$"$J$?$N1?L?$rJQ$($h$&!*(B $BH~?M7O!"2D0&$$7O!"$*;P7O$,B?$$$7!"!z!T9b3[=jF@ I live in Indianapolis, Indiana and if anyone needs mentoring in Fedora, I would more than be happy to help them. I'am quite knowledgeable in Redhat products, I started using Linux on RedHat5.2 and now up to Fedora latest. Contact me at mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net and I will call you back, local calls only please. Jim Tate From caillon at redhat.com Tue Sep 20 16:05:54 2005 From: caillon at redhat.com (Christopher Aillon) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 12:05:54 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Thank You In-Reply-To: <20050920024231.77236.qmail@web32609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050920024231.77236.qmail@web32609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43303362.4050603@redhat.com> On 09/19/2005 10:42 PM, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: >Hello, > >I just would like to thank Christopher and Marc for their comments and >encouraging words in regards to my introductory email. From what I >understand it is mostly up to the contributors to make their own >contributions. > > Pretty much. We can't make you do anything you don't want to. :-) >As I have mentioned, I have been working on a Java RMI network chess game. >However, due to my full-time employment and enormous requirment for this >game to work properly, it would take me a while before I am able to deliver >an Alpha version of this game. > >In my opinion, if you would like to have an addition to extras of a >multiplayer chess game there are two options: >1) If it's no hurry I can work on it on my own and when I am ready, I'll >provide an Alpha version for a review or, >2) I can submit a 'work-in-progress' source code so others can continue to >build upon it (I just hope you'd be able to make sense of my code :-) ). > To be honest, I think a combination of both of the above are ideal. When you're comfortable enough with it, put the source somewhere (in CVS, SVN, HG, BAZ, ). This will allow not only other Fedora developers a chance to work on it, but also developers using other distributions. We're all about being open. :-) From info at sui-yoh.com Wed Sep 21 05:08:59 2005 From: info at sui-yoh.com (info at sui-yoh.com) Date: 21 Sep 2005 14:08:59 +0900 Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] $BL@;R$/$sBN83F|5-$h$j(B Message-ID: <20050921050859.29223.qmail@mail.sui-yoh.com> ?http://merutomo.1192296.net/deai_file/index_bo ? ????????????????????????????? ? ???????????????????????????????? ? ???????????? ? ?????????????????????????????? ? ?????????????? ? ??????????????? ?http://merutomo.1192296.net/deai_file/index_bo ????FILE??? ????????????????????? ???OL?????????????????????? ???????????120?? ?http://merutomo.1192296.net/deai_file/index_bo ????????????? ?apple_apple1025 at yahoo.co.jp ? . From nman64 at n-man.com Wed Sep 21 11:18:40 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:18:40 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Test message. 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URL: From marc.w at smlintl.com.au Wed Sep 21 11:56:43 2005 From: marc.w at smlintl.com.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:56:43 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Test MKII In-Reply-To: <408d14bc050921045561702f41@mail.gmail.com> References: <408d14bc050921045561702f41@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <36783.203.59.202.13.1127303803.squirrel@www.smlintl.com.au> We are making sure that this is a private mailing list my apologies for the spam :( -- Regards Marc Wiriadisastra > Yet another test. > -- > Fedora-mentors-list mailing list > Fedora-mentors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-mentors-list > From marc.w at smlintl.com.au Wed Sep 21 12:07:25 2005 From: marc.w at smlintl.com.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:07:25 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Test message. In-Reply-To: <408d14bc0509210418460535a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <408d14bc0509210418460535a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <36861.203.59.202.13.1127304445.squirrel@www.smlintl.com.au> My apologies for the spam earlier today it has now been fixed. -- Regards Marc Wiriadisastra From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 21 22:44:45 2005 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:44:45 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-mentors-list] Test message. In-Reply-To: <36861.203.59.202.13.1127304445.squirrel@www.smlintl.com.au> References: <408d14bc0509210418460535a0@mail.gmail.com> <36861.203.59.202.13.1127304445.squirrel@www.smlintl.com.au> Message-ID: <4331E25D.3080103@sbcglobal.net> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: >My apologies for the spam earlier today it has now been fixed. > > > > What has not been fixed ? Jim