[fedora-my] Fwd: FW: Tell Your Friends!

[Mohd Hanif]

Eric,

Following up on your banter towards Zaman's post earlier, I was wondering,
what is your point really?

You said:
*Nice, another ad for helpdesk. How is that going to further our
promotion of FOSS?*

First and foremost, what is wrong with working as a Helpdesk? Can you not
promote FOSS while at the same time working as a Helpdesk? Even a cook can
promote FOSS(If they really want to, of course)

I, myself have 2-3 friends who used to be helpdesk a while ago are now
working as a System Engineer in MNC's company and even one of them are
starting his own IT-related business.

and ... After all, we need to start somewhere do we?*

*You said:*
I am sorry but you are putting out an ad to support proprietary
software in a FOSS mailing list. Do not expect to be treated kindly!*

He was merely advertising a vacancy in his company where he works, I did not
see any logos or words that he said supporting proprietary software as you
mentioned?

Yes we are promoting FOSS, but, we do it the healthy way. I don't want to
slap my friend just because he uses Microsoft office instead of Open office.

*
*

2009/7/31 Eric Yeoh <msiantuxlover at gmail.com>

> Haris,
>
> I am attacking the issue not the man. Yes, he has every right to voice
> his opinions and so can I. But I strongly disagree with what he meant
> by "the real world".
>
> So after being through all the unfortunate events you have gone
> through at the bank, you would still think it is a good idea to
> demoralise youngsters so that they can learn "about working in the
> real world"? And no; to answer your questions, I will not like the
> audit and the reporting parts, but of course you are already aware of
> my eventual answer. Who would?
>
> Look, you know and I know the many silly things that happens within
> MNCs. After all you have been through it. As you well said, I am
> merely stating my point as much as your mate was.
>
> And this hostility? I am unsure where it comes from. I make noise?
>
> Hmmm...interesting.
>
> Eric
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Harisfazillah
> Jamel<linuxmalaysia at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Eric,
> >
> > You pick a wrong person to fight with.
> >
> > Numbers of us including Sharuzzaman been through for what you had
> > written. That include freelancing
> > for many years, joining SMB and many more things.
> >
> > Sharuzzaman has the right to write what he is saying
> > because he being through that.
> >
> > I had work with ICT banking sector for 13 years.
> > You tell me of any shit that I had been through.
> >
> > By doing all the bullshit of paper works, audit,
> > ISO and many procudures do you think I like it?
> >
> > Do you like to be audit by two teams of audit every
> > month?
> >
> > Every servers and jobs that you do will be check
> > and any different in your reports will be questions
> > and report to higher level.
> >
> > What I want to tell you is this. If we want our
> > young generation to know and fell what, how and
> > where to get all the exposure let them join
> > the big companies and MNC. Let them know
> > office politics, tendang terajang and know new things
> > that SMB could not give.
> >
> > at the end of the day, they will gain knowledge
> > that our country need....
> >
> > Rather than making noise and keep blaming others
> > lets fix the problems.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Eric Yeoh<msiantuxlover at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> So working in a foreign outsourced company is working in the real
> >> world? Man, you just insulted the majority of the IT workforce in the
> >> country. Malaysia is a country which is mostly SMB/SMEs; so those IT
> >> guys are in Never-Never Land? What about those who are on their own?
> >> They don't do real work but you do?
> >>
> >
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