From sniffit at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 06:39:51 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:39:51 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather Message-ID: <4AC44EB7.8020108@gmail.com> Who's in it and what's the proposed activities? From msiantuxlover at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 06:52:20 2009 From: msiantuxlover at gmail.com (Eric Yeoh) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:52:20 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather In-Reply-To: <4AC44EB7.8020108@gmail.com> References: <4AC44EB7.8020108@gmail.com> Message-ID: We get some ghee and butter and feathers and see how much feathers we can stick on Kage! On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > Who's in it and what's the proposed activities? > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From sniffit at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 07:04:16 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:04:16 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather In-Reply-To: References: <4AC44EB7.8020108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AC45470.2030607@gmail.com> then get a paddle and play Kage pinata? mmmm interesting. I think I saw the slugger somewhere at the back of my car boot. but off hand i can't think of anything for the event. some suggestion include:- F12 alpha preview. Play-on-Linux demo by our hairy singh? (will disassemble the beast machine to bring over if necessary) Tricking out the fedora setup for best results? Open for debate really, but Kage pinata is a good idea. From wariola at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 01:46:47 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (syamsul anuar) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:46:47 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather In-Reply-To: <4AC45470.2030607@gmail.com> References: <4AC44EB7.8020108@gmail.com> <4AC45470.2030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c8846340910011846m4aa63974h611275853ed8325b@mail.gmail.com> Live USB booth ---> with kage pinata as the sexy chick asking ppl to bring over their usb drive. -wariola- On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > then get a paddle and play Kage pinata? mmmm interesting. I think I saw the > slugger somewhere at the back of my car boot. > > but off hand i can't think of anything for the event. some suggestion > include:- > > F12 alpha preview. > Play-on-Linux demo by our hairy singh? (will disassemble the beast machine > to bring over if necessary) > Tricking out the fedora setup for best results? > > Open for debate really, but Kage pinata is a good idea. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- .: war|ola :. Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience http://fedoraproject.org From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 01:56:42 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:56:42 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather In-Reply-To: <6c8846340910011846m4aa63974h611275853ed8325b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AC44EB7.8020108@gmail.com> <4AC45470.2030607@gmail.com> <6c8846340910011846m4aa63974h611275853ed8325b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, syamsul anuar wrote: > Live USB booth ---> with kage pinata as the sexy chick asking ppl to bring > over their usb drive. wtf is a pinata? first .. we need one person to hop in and coordinate our chaos .. > > -wariola- > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > >> then get a paddle and play Kage pinata? mmmm interesting. I think I saw the >> slugger somewhere at the back of my car boot. >> >> but off hand i can't think of anything for the event. some suggestion >> include:- >> >> F12 alpha preview. >> Play-on-Linux demo by our hairy singh? (will disassemble the beast machine >> to bring over if necessary) >> Tricking out the fedora setup for best results? >> >> Open for debate really, but Kage pinata is a good idea. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-my-list mailing list >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> > > > > -- > .: war|ola :. > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > http://fedoraproject.org > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From wariola at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 02:10:21 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (syamsul anuar) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:10:21 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather In-Reply-To: References: <4AC44EB7.8020108@gmail.com> <4AC45470.2030607@gmail.com> <6c8846340910011846m4aa63974h611275853ed8325b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c8846340910011910p7b4c5ea1t1230ae57598d5ed@mail.gmail.com> OK that one let me do it. Nnt aku update wiki... BZ sket 2-3 menjak ni -wariola- On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, syamsul anuar wrote: > > Live USB booth ---> with kage pinata as the sexy chick asking ppl to > bring > > over their usb drive. > > wtf is a pinata? > > first .. we need one person to hop in and coordinate our chaos .. > > > > > -wariola- > > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain > wrote: > > > >> then get a paddle and play Kage pinata? mmmm interesting. I think I saw > the > >> slugger somewhere at the back of my car boot. > >> > >> but off hand i can't think of anything for the event. some suggestion > >> include:- > >> > >> F12 alpha preview. > >> Play-on-Linux demo by our hairy singh? (will disassemble the beast > machine > >> to bring over if necessary) > >> Tricking out the fedora setup for best results? > >> > >> Open for debate really, but Kage pinata is a good idea. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > .: war|ola :. > > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > > http://fedoraproject.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- .: war|ola :. Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience http://fedoraproject.org From sniffit at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 2 06:16:20 2009 From: sniffit at fedoraproject.org (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:16:20 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather In-Reply-To: <6c8846340910011910p7b4c5ea1t1230ae57598d5ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AC44EB7.8020108@gmail.com> <4AC45470.2030607@gmail.com> <6c8846340910011846m4aa63974h611275853ed8325b@mail.gmail.com> <6c8846340910011910p7b4c5ea1t1230ae57598d5ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AC59AB4.6090104@fedoraproject.org> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pinata Post details on wiki into ML and blast the rest of the geng. From anwarbaik88 at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 16:40:37 2009 From: anwarbaik88 at gmail.com (Khairul Anwar) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:40:37 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Re: FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather In-Reply-To: <20091002160037.6CDD161AC30@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20091002160037.6CDD161AC30@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1254501637.32024.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> +1 kage with pinata On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 12:00 -0400, fedora-my-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > Send Fedora-my-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-my-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-my-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-my-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather (syamsul anuar) > 2. Re: FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather (Izhar Firdaus) > 3. Re: FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather (syamsul anuar) > 4. Re: FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather (Ahmad Zulkarnain) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:46:47 +0800 > From: syamsul anuar > Subject: Re: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather > To: sniffit at gmail.com, Fedora Malaysia > Message-ID: > <6c8846340910011846m4aa63974h611275853ed8325b at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Live USB booth ---> with kage pinata as the sexy chick asking ppl to bring > over their usb drive. > > -wariola- > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > > > then get a paddle and play Kage pinata? mmmm interesting. I think I saw the > > slugger somewhere at the back of my car boot. > > > > but off hand i can't think of anything for the event. some suggestion > > include:- > > > > F12 alpha preview. > > Play-on-Linux demo by our hairy singh? (will disassemble the beast machine > > to bring over if necessary) > > Tricking out the fedora setup for best results? > > > > Open for debate really, but Kage pinata is a good idea. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > -- > .: war|ola :. > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > http://fedoraproject.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:56:42 +0800 > From: Izhar Firdaus > Subject: Re: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather > To: Fedora Malaysia > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, syamsul anuar wrote: > > Live USB booth ---> with kage pinata as the sexy chick asking ppl to bring > > over their usb drive. > > wtf is a pinata? > > first .. we need one person to hop in and coordinate our chaos .. > > > > > -wariola- > > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > > > >> then get a paddle and play Kage pinata? mmmm interesting. I think I saw the > >> slugger somewhere at the back of my car boot. > >> > >> but off hand i can't think of anything for the event. some suggestion > >> include:- > >> > >> F12 alpha preview. > >> Play-on-Linux demo by our hairy singh? (will disassemble the beast machine > >> to bring over if necessary) > >> Tricking out the fedora setup for best results? > >> > >> Open for debate really, but Kage pinata is a good idea. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > .: war|ola :. > > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > > http://fedoraproject.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:10:21 +0800 > From: syamsul anuar > Subject: Re: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather > To: Fedora Malaysia > Message-ID: > <6c8846340910011910p7b4c5ea1t1230ae57598d5ed at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP > > OK that one let me do it. Nnt aku update wiki... BZ sket 2-3 menjak ni > > -wariola- > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, syamsul anuar wrote: > > > Live USB booth ---> with kage pinata as the sexy chick asking ppl to > > bring > > > over their usb drive. > > > > wtf is a pinata? > > > > first .. we need one person to hop in and coordinate our chaos .. > > > > > > > > -wariola- > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain > > wrote: > > > > > >> then get a paddle and play Kage pinata? mmmm interesting. I think I saw > > the > > >> slugger somewhere at the back of my car boot. > > >> > > >> but off hand i can't think of anything for the event. some suggestion > > >> include:- > > >> > > >> F12 alpha preview. > > >> Play-on-Linux demo by our hairy singh? (will disassemble the beast > > machine > > >> to bring over if necessary) > > >> Tricking out the fedora setup for best results? > > >> > > >> Open for debate really, but Kage pinata is a good idea. > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > > >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > .: war|ola :. > > > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > > > http://fedoraproject.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > > Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 > > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > From adliazaddin at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 03:39:50 2009 From: adliazaddin at gmail.com (Adli Azaddin) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:39:50 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D Message-ID: <21179be0910062039m6f49f176ve22971d4f90921ff@mail.gmail.com> hehehe From wariola at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 03:45:38 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (Syamsul Anuar) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:45:38 +0000 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D Message-ID: <1487123328-1254887001-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-842472346-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Best x? Compatible x system ko ngan bini ko? Can login? :p -wariola- ------Original Message------ From: Adli Azaddin Sender: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com To: Fedora Malaysia ReplyTo: Fedora Malaysia Sent: Oct 7, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D hehehe _______________________________________________ Fedora-my-list mailing list Fedora-my-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis From adliazaddin at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 03:45:12 2009 From: adliazaddin at gmail.com (Adli Azaddin) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:45:12 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <1487123328-1254887001-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-842472346-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> References: <1487123328-1254887001-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-842472346-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <21179be0910062045r56bba346o9ab18dfbacd03393@mail.gmail.com> compatible :D On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Syamsul Anuar wrote: > Best x? Compatible x system ko ngan bini ko? Can login? :p > > -wariola- > ------Original Message------ > From: Adli Azaddin > Sender: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com > To: Fedora Malaysia > ReplyTo: Fedora Malaysia > Sent: Oct 7, 2009 11:39 AM > Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D > > hehehe > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From johann at akiss.com.my Wed Oct 7 03:45:41 2009 From: johann at akiss.com.my (Johann Amin) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:45:41 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <21179be0910062039m6f49f176ve22971d4f90921ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <21179be0910062039m6f49f176ve22971d4f90921ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ACC0EE5.2020704@akiss.com.my> Congratulations and many more happy years to come. On 10/07/2009 11:39 AM, Adli Azaddin wrote: > hehehe > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From adliazaddin at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 03:49:38 2009 From: adliazaddin at gmail.com (Adli Azaddin) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:49:38 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <4ACC0EE5.2020704@akiss.com.my> References: <21179be0910062039m6f49f176ve22971d4f90921ff@mail.gmail.com> <4ACC0EE5.2020704@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: <21179be0910062049m3ff2a61am465c0c2870191ada@mail.gmail.com> thanx :D On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Johann Amin wrote: > Congratulations and many more happy years to come. > > > On 10/07/2009 11:39 AM, Adli Azaddin wrote: > >> hehehe >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-my-list mailing list >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From msrazi at fedoraproject.org Wed Oct 7 03:50:07 2009 From: msrazi at fedoraproject.org (Mohd Syafarul Razi) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:50:07 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <4ACC0EE5.2020704@akiss.com.my> References: <21179be0910062039m6f49f176ve22971d4f90921ff@mail.gmail.com> <4ACC0EE5.2020704@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: Ntah apa-apa From sniffit at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 04:02:25 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:02:25 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <4ACC0EE5.2020704@akiss.com.my> References: <21179be0910062039m6f49f176ve22971d4f90921ff@mail.gmail.com> <4ACC0EE5.2020704@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: <4ACC12D1.3020903@gmail.com> Kureng sorang lagi kawan aku nak ajak melepak. From wariola at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 05:19:05 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (Syamsul Anuar) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:19:05 +0000 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D Message-ID: <1536984247-1254892608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-8794209-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Ko x kawin lg apa tau razi.. Best gila woooo ------Original Message------ From: Mohd Syafarul Razi Sender: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com To: Fedora Malaysia ReplyTo: Fedora Malaysia Sent: Oct 7, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [fedora-my] Just married :D Ntah apa-apa _______________________________________________ Fedora-my-list mailing list Fedora-my-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis From sniffit at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 05:44:31 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:44:31 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <1536984247-1254892608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-8794209-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> References: <1536984247-1254892608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-8794209-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4ACC2ABF.20805@gmail.com> clarify, kahwin atau nikah. :p From wariola at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 05:45:29 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (Syamsul Anuar) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:45:29 +0000 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D Message-ID: <1293237213-1254894192-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1470624171-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Both ------Original Message------ From: Ahmad Zulkarnain Sender: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com To: fedora-my-list at redhat.com ReplyTo: sniffit at gmail.com ReplyTo: Fedora Malaysia Sent: Oct 7, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [fedora-my] Just married :D clarify, kahwin atau nikah. :p _______________________________________________ Fedora-my-list mailing list Fedora-my-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis From sniffit at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 05:58:24 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:58:24 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <1293237213-1254894192-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1470624171-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> References: <1293237213-1254894192-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1470624171-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4ACC2E00.1050904@gmail.com> OK.... cantik. tahniah utk pengantin baru. :P papa baru pun x tido malam lagi kah :P From msrazi at fedoraproject.org Wed Oct 7 06:11:21 2009 From: msrazi at fedoraproject.org (Mohd Syafarul Razi) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:11:21 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <4ACC2E00.1050904@gmail.com> References: <1293237213-1254894192-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1470624171-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <4ACC2E00.1050904@gmail.com> Message-ID: ko diam syamsul..sampai masa aku NIKAH la dgn sapa2.ahah From adliazaddin at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 07:01:17 2009 From: adliazaddin at gmail.com (Adli Azaddin) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:01:17 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: References: <1293237213-1254894192-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1470624171-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <4ACC2E00.1050904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <21179be0910070001v4356dc70pa17b528ab3541c4a@mail.gmail.com> hahaha... :P 2009/10/7 Mohd Syafarul Razi > ko diam syamsul..sampai masa aku NIKAH la dgn sapa2.ahah > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From wariola at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 07:09:44 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (Syamsul Anuar) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:09:44 +0000 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D Message-ID: <357351643-1254899247-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1631448663-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Itulah ayat ko dari tahun lps razi.. Tp bila? ------Original Message------ From: Adli Azaddin Sender: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com To: Fedora Malaysia ReplyTo: Fedora Malaysia Sent: Oct 7, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [fedora-my] Just married :D hahaha... :P 2009/10/7 Mohd Syafarul Razi > ko diam syamsul..sampai masa aku NIKAH la dgn sapa2.ahah > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > _______________________________________________ Fedora-my-list mailing list Fedora-my-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis From msrazi at fedoraproject.org Wed Oct 7 07:15:09 2009 From: msrazi at fedoraproject.org (Mohd Syafarul Razi) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:15:09 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <357351643-1254899247-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1631448663-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> References: <357351643-1254899247-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1631448663-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-ID: eheh..yg taun lps tu planning KAWIN..eheh From sniffit at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 11:33:43 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:33:43 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.my 2009 Fedora Birds-of-Feather In-Reply-To: <6c8846340910011910p7b4c5ea1t1230ae57598d5ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AC44EB7.8020108@gmail.com> <4AC45470.2030607@gmail.com> <6c8846340910011846m4aa63974h611275853ed8325b@mail.gmail.com> <6c8846340910011910p7b4c5ea1t1230ae57598d5ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ACC7C97.6050008@gmail.com> Currently setting up a machine to show off Fedora 11 at APIIT FOSS.my registration booth for students. might be a starter to think of something for the BoF session. also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_a_Feather_%28computing%29 to pick up some ideas. +1 kage pinata just to keep the poll going. From jerungkun at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 13:40:30 2009 From: jerungkun at gmail.com (ApOgEE) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:40:30 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <1487123328-1254887001-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-842472346-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> References: <1487123328-1254887001-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-842472346-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <1e5d839e0910070640k713c10ddj746cdd86e2693757@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Syamsul Anuar wrote: > Best x? Compatible x system ko ngan bini ko? Can login? :p > Plug N Play ke? -- Best Wishes, M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin Software Engineer Persiasys Sdn. Bhd. ---------------------------------------------------- ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN ---------------------------------------------------- https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee - ApOgEE on LaunchPad http://artofapogee.blogspot.com - Art Of ApOgEE http://coderstalk.blogspot.com - Coder's Talk ---------------------------------------------------- From adliazaddin at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 14:30:53 2009 From: adliazaddin at gmail.com (Adli Azaddin) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:30:53 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <1e5d839e0910070640k713c10ddj746cdd86e2693757@mail.gmail.com> References: <1487123328-1254887001-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-842472346-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <1e5d839e0910070640k713c10ddj746cdd86e2693757@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21179be0910070730v236c3ec8n965c3808e1bf234a@mail.gmail.com> oooh tak PnP.. kene configure skit :P On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, ApOgEE wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Syamsul Anuar wrote: > > > Best x? Compatible x system ko ngan bini ko? Can login? :p > > > > Plug N Play ke? > > > -- > Best Wishes, > > M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin > Software Engineer > Persiasys Sdn. Bhd. > ---------------------------------------------------- > ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN > ---------------------------------------------------- > https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee - ApOgEE on LaunchPad > http://artofapogee.blogspot.com - Art Of ApOgEE > http://coderstalk.blogspot.com - Coder's Talk > ---------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From wariola at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 14:39:53 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (Syamsul Anuar) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:39:53 +0000 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D Message-ID: <665086160-1254926256-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1668958587-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Guna vanilla kernel ke linux module? Ke compile kernel sendiri? ------Original Message------ From: Adli Azaddin Sender: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com To: Fedora Malaysia ReplyTo: Fedora Malaysia Sent: Oct 7, 2009 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [fedora-my] Just married :D oooh tak PnP.. kene configure skit :P On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, ApOgEE wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Syamsul Anuar wrote: > > > Best x? Compatible x system ko ngan bini ko? Can login? :p > > > > Plug N Play ke? > > > -- > Best Wishes, > > M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin > Software Engineer > Persiasys Sdn. Bhd. > ---------------------------------------------------- > ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN > ---------------------------------------------------- > https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee - ApOgEE on LaunchPad > http://artofapogee.blogspot.com - Art Of ApOgEE > http://coderstalk.blogspot.com - Coder's Talk > ---------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > _______________________________________________ Fedora-my-list mailing list Fedora-my-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis From faizalabd at jka.puo.edu.my Wed Oct 7 23:46:10 2009 From: faizalabd at jka.puo.edu.my (WAN AHMAD FAIZAL B WAN ABDULLAH) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:46:10 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: <665086160-1254926256-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1668958587-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> References: <665086160-1254926256-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1668958587-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-ID: hahahaha ________________________________________ From: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com [fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Syamsul Anuar [wariola at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:39 PM To: Fedora Malaysia Subject: Re: [fedora-my] Just married :D Guna vanilla kernel ke linux module? Ke compile kernel sendiri? ------Original Message------ From: Adli Azaddin Sender: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com To: Fedora Malaysia ReplyTo: Fedora Malaysia Sent: Oct 7, 2009 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [fedora-my] Just married :D oooh tak PnP.. kene configure skit :P On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, ApOgEE wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Syamsul Anuar wrote: > > > Best x? Compatible x system ko ngan bini ko? Can login? :p > > > > Plug N Play ke? > > > -- > Best Wishes, > > M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin > Software Engineer > Persiasys Sdn. Bhd. > ---------------------------------------------------- > ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN > ---------------------------------------------------- > https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee - ApOgEE on LaunchPad > http://artofapogee.blogspot.com - Art Of ApOgEE > http://coderstalk.blogspot.com - Coder's Talk > ---------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > _______________________________________________ Fedora-my-list mailing list Fedora-my-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis _______________________________________________ Fedora-my-list mailing list Fedora-my-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list From adliazaddin at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 02:14:55 2009 From: adliazaddin at gmail.com (Adli Azaddin) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:14:55 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Just married :D In-Reply-To: References: <665086160-1254926256-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1668958587-@bda058.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <21179be0910071914n2d06b3des5853e2d8b0ac623f@mail.gmail.com> vanilla install laa :P On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:46 AM, WAN AHMAD FAIZAL B WAN ABDULLAH < faizalabd at jka.puo.edu.my> wrote: > hahahaha > ________________________________________ > From: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com [fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com] > On Behalf Of Syamsul Anuar [wariola at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:39 PM > To: Fedora Malaysia > Subject: Re: [fedora-my] Just married :D > > Guna vanilla kernel ke linux module? Ke compile kernel sendiri? > ------Original Message------ > From: Adli Azaddin > Sender: fedora-my-list-bounces at redhat.com > To: Fedora Malaysia > ReplyTo: Fedora Malaysia > Sent: Oct 7, 2009 10:30 PM > Subject: Re: [fedora-my] Just married :D > > oooh tak PnP.. kene configure skit :P > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, ApOgEE wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Syamsul Anuar > wrote: > > > > > Best x? Compatible x system ko ngan bini ko? Can login? :p > > > > > > > Plug N Play ke? > > > > > > -- > > Best Wishes, > > > > M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin > > Software Engineer > > Persiasys Sdn. Bhd. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee< > https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Eapogee>- ApOgEE on LaunchPad > > http://artofapogee.blogspot.com - Art Of ApOgEE > > http://coderstalk.blogspot.com - Coder's Talk > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Thu Oct 15 03:05:49 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:05:49 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.My 2009 Early Bird Registration Ends TODAY!!! Message-ID: Heads up to everyone FOSS.My 2009 Early Bird Registration prices are ending TODAY!! If you havent registered, register now or you will lose the chance to register on these packages Bare Bones Price RM 20.00 Hobbyist Price RM 60.00 So what are you waiting for? REGISTER NOW http://foss.my/2009/registration-overview/ -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From sniffit at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 11:04:35 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:04:35 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] FOSS.My 2009 Fedora BoF Tentative Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AD85343.3000808@gmail.com> Please edit/amend/add any activities as you guys see fit. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/FOSS.my_2009#Activities From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Sun Oct 18 14:55:33 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:55:33 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Infinite Hands Song Message-ID: This is old, Recalled about this song when I found the ogg while cleaning up my HDD ... thought might as well reshare the link for those who never heard it, or for those who almost forgotten about it (like me) http://infinite-hands.draketo.de/ http://infinite-hands.draketo.de/musik/Infinite-Hands--free-software.ogg "and no company owns us, and no land is our own, for Infinite Hands are we. " full lyric at the site -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From darxlord at gmail.com Sat Oct 24 08:40:46 2009 From: darxlord at gmail.com (darXness darXlord) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [fedora-my] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Message-ID: <452647017.1136813.1256373646517.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn07.prod> LinkedIn ------------ Fedora, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - darXness Confirm that you know darXness darXlord https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/817493360/Qmw2VQUf/ Every day, millions of professionals like darXness darXlord use LinkedIn to connect with colleagues, find experts, and explore opportunities. ------ (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation From wariola at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 05:57:02 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (syamsul anuar) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:57:02 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon Message-ID: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> Hi Guys, Just wanna say thanks to all participants and all parties that assisted during foss.my 2009. Now we have another milestone - MyGossCon 2009. During the BoF, we already agreed to demo enterprise virtualization with Fedora and showcasing live migration. Suggest we discuss it here to bring matters forward. Kage and Sniffit already volunteer their box while I will offer a simple PC to act as centralize storage. Also suggest that maybe we can test it this week (my home office is available, just ask) as I will be in Singapore this weekend attending some RH conference. Open for discussion. -- .: war|ola :. Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience http://fedoraproject.org From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 06:01:58 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:01:58 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:57 PM, syamsul anuar wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Just wanna say thanks to all participants and all parties that assisted > during foss.my 2009. > > Now we have another milestone - MyGossCon 2009. During the BoF, we already > agreed to demo enterprise virtualization with Fedora and showcasing live > migration. Suggest we discuss it here to bring matters forward. Kage and > Sniffit already volunteer their box while I will offer a simple PC to act as > centralize storage. Also suggest that maybe we can test it this week (my > home office is available, just ask) as I will be in Singapore this weekend > attending some RH conference. > > Open for discussion. if you need repositories, I have it :P ... sniffit , when ure sending the banners to me this afternoon, could you also bring the rpmfusion repos ? ... i want to copy it .. > > -- > .: war|ola :. > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > http://fedoraproject.org > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From sniffit at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 06:07:59 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:07:59 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> will not be able to attend due to schedule conflicts. sorry guys. will hand banners to Kage as soon as possible. From wariola at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 11:04:51 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (syamsul anuar) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:51 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> So kage, when is the suitable time for our little testing? mind if its tomorrow? -wariola- On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > will not be able to attend due to schedule conflicts. sorry guys. > > will hand banners to Kage as soon as possible. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- .: war|ola :. Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience http://fedoraproject.org From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 11:13:39 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:13:39 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:04 PM, syamsul anuar wrote: > So kage, when is the suitable time for our little testing? mind if its > tomorrow? > where? > -wariola- > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > >> will not be able to attend due to schedule conflicts. sorry guys. >> >> will hand banners to Kage as soon as possible. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-my-list mailing list >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> > > > > -- > .: war|ola :. > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > http://fedoraproject.org > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 06:13:17 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:13:17 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 Message-ID: Shuttleworth's bug #1 is -> "Microsoft has the majority market share" so let them do that ... Microsoft is not a problem to us, as we are non-profit, and Fedora focuses more in driving FOSS development forward than worrying about marketshare. Therefore, I'm suggesting a bug #0 for us, the Fedora-MY group - based on something that Red Hat once mentioned long ago, Harish Pillay repeated it not so long ago, and John Lim also reiterate it back in FOSS.MY 2009 bug #0: "Contribution in FOSS from Southeast Asia is too low" everybody , are y'all up to the task to fix this bug?? -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From sniffit at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 06:16:53 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:16:53 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AE7E1D5.70305@gmail.com> +1 in support of resolving bug #0 I may not be able to code, but i sure as heck test stuff. ;) From johann at akiss.com.my Wed Oct 28 07:32:19 2009 From: johann at akiss.com.my (Johann Amin) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:32:19 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> From what I can see, most if not all of the FOSS activity is happening in Selangor/WP. It is crucial to remember that the "MY" in FOSS-MY stands for Malaysia (if by any chance it means Myanmar, please ignore the remainder of this message). Selangor/WP !== Malaysia. The first step is to find out who's who & where. Draft out a roster and appoint 2 to 3 persons as state/area administrators. People are not going to join a cause if they don't actually see it in action, which brings us to the second step. FOSS activities should be rotated to different states/areas where potential/promising candidates can come, see, touch & smell the community. From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 07:53:21 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:53:21 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Johann Amin wrote: > From what I can see, most if not all of the FOSS activity is happening in > Selangor/WP. It is crucial to remember that the "MY" in FOSS-MY stands for > Malaysia (if by any chance it means Myanmar, please ignore the remainder of > this message). Selangor/WP !== Malaysia. of course Selangor/WP is not Malaysia. but the active ones are located in this area. Also , FOSS-MY != Fedora-MY. > > The first step is to find out who's who & where. Draft out a roster and > appoint 2 to 3 persons as state/area administrators. Currently in term of Fedora-MY group, majority are in Selangor/WP, and we kindof got Farouq at JB, thats for now. The rest are idle. There are also some Fedorans in Perak (UTP/UiTM) > > People are not going to join a cause if they don't actually see it in > action, which brings us to the second step. FOSS activities should be > rotated to different states/areas where potential/promising candidates can > come, see, touch & smell the community. > Also, do note that Fedora-MY is a group with no money besides from our own shallow pockets. We cant afford (monetarily, and time) to cycle venues like that. Therefore, at this point of time, what we can afford is Selangor/WP as our starting point. Until more consumers are converted to become contributors. -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 07:55:18 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:55:18 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Johann Amin wrote: >> From what I can see, most if not all of the FOSS activity is happening in >> Selangor/WP. It is crucial to remember that the "MY" in FOSS-MY stands for >> Malaysia (if by any chance it means Myanmar, please ignore the remainder of >> this message). Selangor/WP !== Malaysia. > > of course Selangor/WP is not Malaysia. but the active ones are located > in this area. Also , FOSS-MY != Fedora-MY. > >> >> The first step is to find out who's who & where. Draft out a roster and >> appoint 2 to 3 persons as state/area administrators. > > Currently in term of Fedora-MY group, majority are in Selangor/WP, and > we kindof got Farouq at JB, thats for now. The rest are idle. There > are also some Fedorans in Perak (UTP/UiTM) > >> >> People are not going to join a cause if they don't actually see it in >> action, which brings us to the second step. FOSS activities should be >> rotated to different states/areas where potential/promising candidates can >> come, see, touch & smell the community. >> > > Also, do note that Fedora-MY is a group with no money besides from our > own shallow pockets. We cant afford (monetarily, and time) to cycle > venues like that. > > Therefore, at this point of time, what we can afford is Selangor/WP as > our starting point. Until more consumers are converted to become > contributors. > or are there some other silent active Ambassadors lurking around in this ML ?? (which I quite doubt it) -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 07:58:52 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:58:52 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Johann Amin wrote: > The first step is to find out who's who & where. Draft out a roster and > appoint 2 to 3 persons as state/area administrators. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam#Active_Ambassadors -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From johann at akiss.com.my Wed Oct 28 08:43:20 2009 From: johann at akiss.com.my (Johann Amin) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:43:20 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> On 10/28/2009 03:53 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Johann Amin wrote: > >> From what I can see, most if not all of the FOSS activity is happening in >> Selangor/WP. It is crucial to remember that the "MY" in FOSS-MY stands for >> Malaysia (if by any chance it means Myanmar, please ignore the remainder of >> this message). Selangor/WP !== Malaysia. >> > of course Selangor/WP is not Malaysia. but the active ones are located > in this area. Also , FOSS-MY != Fedora-MY. > > My bad. I've always preferred to use the term FOSS as it is more "wholesome". >> The first step is to find out who's who& where. Draft out a roster and >> appoint 2 to 3 persons as state/area administrators. >> > Currently in term of Fedora-MY group, majority are in Selangor/WP, and > we kindof got Farouq at JB, thats for now. The rest are idle. There > are also some Fedorans in Perak (UTP/UiTM) > > Well, now you've got my name up here in Penang. If there are any Fedora-MY lurkers around in Penang/Butterworth, you know who to call. >> People are not going to join a cause if they don't actually see it in >> action, which brings us to the second step. FOSS activities should be >> rotated to different states/areas where potential/promising candidates can >> come, see, touch& smell the community. >> >> > Also, do note that Fedora-MY is a group with no money besides from our > own shallow pockets. We cant afford (monetarily, and time) to cycle > venues like that. > > Sure I would like the pizazz & glamor of a ballroom event in a 6-star hotel with free flow of champagne and what not, but FOSS is about drawing interest, bringing awareness & fostering a community. Even if you just setup a stall in the middle of a pasar malam with a 1HP petrol generator, 2 notebooks and a megaphone. The moment someone stops to inquire, we've done our job. > Therefore, at this point of time, what we can afford is Selangor/WP as > our starting point. It doesn't have to be now and it doesn't have to be tomorrow, but as long as we are sincere in wanting to making Fedora/FOSS activities something that can be enjoyed/embraced by all, it is a good enough start. > Until more consumers are converted to become > contributors. > Build it and they shall come. You need to define "contribution". Most people wold take it to mean money. From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 09:19:38 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:19:38 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Johann Amin wrote: > On 10/28/2009 03:53 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Johann Amin ?wrote: >> >>> >>> ?From what I can see, most if not all of the FOSS activity is happening >>> in >>> Selangor/WP. It is crucial to remember that the "MY" in FOSS-MY stands >>> for >>> Malaysia (if by any chance it means Myanmar, please ignore the remainder >>> of >>> this message). Selangor/WP !== Malaysia. >>> >> >> of course Selangor/WP is not Malaysia. but the active ones are located >> in this area. Also , FOSS-MY != Fedora-MY. >> >> > > My bad. I've always preferred to use the term FOSS as it is more > "wholesome". no , its my bad .. if you mean "FOSS-MY" as in the conference and the group of people behind the conference, then "FOSS-MY" != "Fedora-MY" .. but if you mean FOSS as in the concept and philosophy of Free Software and Open Source Software .. then thats a different case :) .. >>> >>> The first step is to find out who's who& ?where. Draft out a roster and >>> appoint 2 to 3 persons as state/area administrators. >>> >> >> Currently in term of Fedora-MY group, majority are in Selangor/WP, and >> we kindof got Farouq at JB, thats for now. The rest are idle. There >> are also some Fedorans in Perak (UTP/UiTM) >> >> > > Well, now you've got my name up here in Penang. If there are any Fedora-MY > lurkers around in Penang/Butterworth, you know who to call. cool ... it would be great if you grab a FAS Account and add yourself as an active contributor in our contributor list https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam ... so that its easier for ppl to look for you :) >>> >>> People are not going to join a cause if they don't actually see it in >>> action, which brings us to the second step. FOSS activities should be >>> rotated to different states/areas where potential/promising candidates >>> can >>> come, see, touch& ?smell the community. >>> >>> >> >> Also, do note that Fedora-MY is a group with no money besides from our >> own shallow pockets. We cant afford (monetarily, and time) to cycle >> venues like that. >> >> > > Sure I would like the pizazz & glamor of a ballroom event in a 6-star hotel > with free flow of champagne and what not, but FOSS is about drawing > interest, bringing awareness & fostering a community. Even if you just setup > a stall in the middle of a pasar malam with a 1HP petrol generator, 2 > notebooks and a megaphone. The moment someone stops to inquire, we've done > our job. thats what we've been doing and still doing it, but without the petrol generator and megaphone ... yup, our pocket is much shallower to even afford pasar malam booth .. lolz .. >> >> Therefore, at this point of time, what we can afford is Selangor/WP as >> our starting point. > > It doesn't have to be now and it doesn't have to be tomorrow, but as long as > we are sincere in wanting to making Fedora/FOSS activities something that > can be enjoyed/embraced by all, it is a good enough start. yep >> >> Until more consumers are converted to become >> contributors. >> > > Build it and they shall come. > > > You need to define "contribution". ?Most people wold take it to mean money. In general, I want more people who can take on stuff listed in http://join.fedoraproject.org/ .. it can mean money, but imo, action worth more. -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 09:26:29 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:26:29 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY at Barcamp Melaka Message-ID: Anybody are going to Barcamp Melaka? I'm thinking of going there and grab a room for a Fedora related hacking throughout the 2 days. probably doing RPM Packaging and Repository related hackfest or something for a start ... but an issue, I dont have a transport to go there .. -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From sniffit at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 09:33:33 2009 From: sniffit at gmail.com (Ahmad Zulkarnain) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:33:33 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY at Barcamp Melaka In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AE80FED.4060301@gmail.com> when and where is Barcamp Melaka? (yes i am lazy to google. spoon feed me please.) From adliazaddin at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 09:35:30 2009 From: adliazaddin at gmail.com (Adli Azaddin) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:35:30 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY at Barcamp Melaka In-Reply-To: <4AE80FED.4060301@gmail.com> References: <4AE80FED.4060301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <21179be0910280235w2acf1f1dy88463465caaf6018@mail.gmail.com> MMU Melaka 14th 15th nov On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > when and where is Barcamp Melaka? > > (yes i am lazy to google. spoon feed me please.) > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 09:35:37 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:35:37 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY at Barcamp Melaka In-Reply-To: <4AE80FED.4060301@gmail.com> References: <4AE80FED.4060301@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > when and where is Barcamp Melaka? > > (yes i am lazy to google. spoon feed me please.) http://barcamp.org/BarCampMelaka 14-15th November 2009 that is.. around 2 weeks from today ... > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From esqbrianritchie at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 09:53:11 2009 From: esqbrianritchie at gmail.com (BRIAN RITCHIE) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:53:11 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: Kage, If I may add. We can also take another route to resolve bug #0. We need to encourage participation and not merely usage. The challenge of Asia or at least SEA at this point is we are heavy consumers but not contributors particularly b/c we are using not participating. We perhaps need to take a hands-on approach as well to this issue. One such example we can emulate is Damn Vulnerable Linux. What they do is produce a unpatched ISO of a certain distro for users to download and attempt to hack on, which actually invites the user to not only use but engage with the distro. Perhaps we can identify the Fedora strong points and create such hackathons/day-0/patch writing competitions with universities to encourage students to work on real issues. I am sure we can organise such sessions with the help of Fedora where the patches can be submitted reviewed and approved for use thus encouraging students to indirectly contribute/train more towards such goals. What say you ? -BRIAN RITCHIE On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Johann Amin wrote: > > On 10/28/2009 03:53 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Johann Amin > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> From what I can see, most if not all of the FOSS activity is happening > >>> in > >>> Selangor/WP. It is crucial to remember that the "MY" in FOSS-MY stands > >>> for > >>> Malaysia (if by any chance it means Myanmar, please ignore the > remainder > >>> of > >>> this message). Selangor/WP !== Malaysia. > >>> > >> > >> of course Selangor/WP is not Malaysia. but the active ones are located > >> in this area. Also , FOSS-MY != Fedora-MY. > >> > >> > > > > My bad. I've always preferred to use the term FOSS as it is more > > "wholesome". > > no , its my bad .. > > if you mean "FOSS-MY" as in the conference and the group of people > behind the conference, then "FOSS-MY" != "Fedora-MY" .. > > but if you mean FOSS as in the concept and philosophy of Free Software > and Open Source Software .. then thats a different case :) .. > > >>> > >>> The first step is to find out who's who& where. Draft out a roster and > >>> appoint 2 to 3 persons as state/area administrators. > >>> > >> > >> Currently in term of Fedora-MY group, majority are in Selangor/WP, and > >> we kindof got Farouq at JB, thats for now. The rest are idle. There > >> are also some Fedorans in Perak (UTP/UiTM) > >> > >> > > > > Well, now you've got my name up here in Penang. If there are any > Fedora-MY > > lurkers around in Penang/Butterworth, you know who to call. > > cool ... it would be great if you grab a FAS Account and add yourself > as an active contributor in our contributor list > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam ... so that > its easier for ppl to look for you :) > > >>> > >>> People are not going to join a cause if they don't actually see it in > >>> action, which brings us to the second step. FOSS activities should be > >>> rotated to different states/areas where potential/promising candidates > >>> can > >>> come, see, touch& smell the community. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Also, do note that Fedora-MY is a group with no money besides from our > >> own shallow pockets. We cant afford (monetarily, and time) to cycle > >> venues like that. > >> > >> > > > > Sure I would like the pizazz & glamor of a ballroom event in a 6-star > hotel > > with free flow of champagne and what not, but FOSS is about drawing > > interest, bringing awareness & fostering a community. Even if you just > setup > > a stall in the middle of a pasar malam with a 1HP petrol generator, 2 > > notebooks and a megaphone. The moment someone stops to inquire, we've > done > > our job. > > thats what we've been doing and still doing it, but without the petrol > generator and megaphone ... yup, our pocket is much shallower to even > afford pasar malam booth .. lolz .. > > >> > >> Therefore, at this point of time, what we can afford is Selangor/WP as > >> our starting point. > > > > It doesn't have to be now and it doesn't have to be tomorrow, but as long > as > > we are sincere in wanting to making Fedora/FOSS activities something that > > can be enjoyed/embraced by all, it is a good enough start. > > yep > > >> > >> Until more consumers are converted to become > >> contributors. > >> > > > > Build it and they shall come. > > > > > > You need to define "contribution". Most people wold take it to mean > money. > > > In general, I want more people who can take on stuff listed in > http://join.fedoraproject.org/ .. it can mean money, but imo, action > worth more. > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 10:14:12 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:14:12 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:53 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE wrote: > Kage, > > ?If I may add. We can also take another route to resolve bug #0. We need to > encourage participation and not merely usage. The challenge of Asia or at > least SEA at this point is we are heavy consumers but not contributors > particularly b/c we are using not participating. exactly ... we have a lot of consumers here .. but lack of contributors ... and most of the local activities so far, are focused in getting more consumers rather than contributors .. and imo, our group should focus in fixing this bug .. as theres no group (that i've seen so far) try to assess this issue .. > > ?We perhaps need to take a hands-on approach as well to this issue. One > such example we can emulate is Damn Vulnerable Linux. What they do is > produce a unpatched ISO of a certain distro for users to download and > attempt to hack on, which actually invites the user to not only use but > engage with the distro. DSL is created for a different - computer security related - purpose .. :) > > ? Perhaps we can identify the Fedora strong points and create such > hackathons/day-0/patch writing competitions with universities to encourage > students to work on real issues. I am sure we can organise such sessions > with the help of Fedora where the patches can be submitted reviewed and > approved for use thus encouraging students to indirectly contribute/train > more towards such goals. Your idea is quite close to what I've been thinking for quite some time :) Barcamp Melaka is my first (personal) milestone to start getting contributors ... 'with the help of Fedora' .. that would be us :P .. we also need to sharpen up our own technical skills in this.... currently from the current situation, I'm quite alone whenever it comes to Fedora related technology skills ... (eg, writing yum plugins, understanding rpm and repositories, knowing some of the codes of some of the internal tools, knowing the Fedora infrastructure and libs related to it) ... So, what I'm planning now, try to guide/get more people who can work on these stuff ... not sure how many i would get though , as so far, several had given up .. but 1 is always better than 0 .. RPM Packaging is a start .. anybody going to Barcamp Melaka? :P > > What say you ? > > -BRIAN RITCHIE > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From esqbrianritchie at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 10:20:21 2009 From: esqbrianritchie at gmail.com (BRIAN RITCHIE) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:20:21 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: That's great. What we can do in this case is formalize this into a course module, part-time or summer project for local universities. Similar to GSOC, we can implement a smaller scale tutorial form with proper end goals for students in unis or even high school if we are ambitious enough and have adequate resources. Thoughts ? Community ? On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:53 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > wrote: > > Kage, > > > > If I may add. We can also take another route to resolve bug #0. We need > to > > encourage participation and not merely usage. The challenge of Asia or at > > least SEA at this point is we are heavy consumers but not contributors > > particularly b/c we are using not participating. > > exactly ... we have a lot of consumers here .. but lack of > contributors ... and most of the local activities so far, are focused > in getting more consumers rather than contributors .. > > and imo, our group should focus in fixing this bug .. as theres no > group (that i've seen so far) try to assess this issue .. > > > > > We perhaps need to take a hands-on approach as well to this issue. One > > such example we can emulate is Damn Vulnerable Linux. What they do is > > produce a unpatched ISO of a certain distro for users to download and > > attempt to hack on, which actually invites the user to not only use but > > engage with the distro. > > DSL is created for a different - computer security related - purpose .. :) > > > > > Perhaps we can identify the Fedora strong points and create such > > hackathons/day-0/patch writing competitions with universities to > encourage > > students to work on real issues. I am sure we can organise such sessions > > with the help of Fedora where the patches can be submitted reviewed and > > approved for use thus encouraging students to indirectly contribute/train > > more towards such goals. > > Your idea is quite close to what I've been thinking for quite some time :) > > Barcamp Melaka is my first (personal) milestone to start getting > contributors ... > > 'with the help of Fedora' .. that would be us :P .. we also need to > sharpen up our own technical skills in this.... currently from the > current situation, I'm quite alone whenever it comes to Fedora related > technology skills ... (eg, writing yum plugins, understanding rpm and > repositories, knowing some of the codes of some of the internal tools, > knowing the Fedora infrastructure and libs related to it) ... > > So, what I'm planning now, try to guide/get more people who can work > on these stuff ... not sure how many i would get though , as so far, > several had given up .. but 1 is always better than 0 .. > > RPM Packaging is a start .. anybody going to Barcamp Melaka? :P > > > > > What say you ? > > > > -BRIAN RITCHIE > > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 10:35:11 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:35:11 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: 2009/10/28 BRIAN RITCHIE : > That's great. What we can do in this case is formalize this into a course > module, part-time or summer project for local universities. Similar to GSOC, > we can implement a smaller scale tutorial form with proper end goals for > students in unis or even high school if we are ambitious enough and have > adequate resources. Thoughts ? Community ? You familiar with GSOC? theres no tutorial, the student do everything themselves, with a mentor to poke when stuck ... which is why USD5000 is given to those who successfully finished their project .. I wonder if our students are ready for such culture ... too many that i've met want to be spoonfed (and this coming from a student who just left Uni - me) .. > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:53 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE >> wrote: >> > Kage, >> > >> > ?If I may add. We can also take another route to resolve bug #0. We need >> to >> > encourage participation and not merely usage. The challenge of Asia or at >> > least SEA at this point is we are heavy consumers but not contributors >> > particularly b/c we are using not participating. >> >> exactly ... we have a lot of consumers here .. but lack of >> contributors ... and most of the local activities so far, are focused >> in getting more consumers rather than contributors .. >> >> and imo, our group should focus in fixing this bug .. ?as theres no >> group (that i've seen so far) try to assess this issue .. >> >> > >> > ?We perhaps need to take a hands-on approach as well to this issue. One >> > such example we can emulate is Damn Vulnerable Linux. What they do is >> > produce a unpatched ISO of a certain distro for users to download and >> > attempt to hack on, which actually invites the user to not only use but >> > engage with the distro. >> >> DSL is created for a different - computer security related - purpose .. :) >> >> > >> > ? Perhaps we can identify the Fedora strong points and create such >> > hackathons/day-0/patch writing competitions with universities to >> encourage >> > students to work on real issues. I am sure we can organise such sessions >> > with the help of Fedora where the patches can be submitted reviewed and >> > approved for use thus encouraging students to indirectly contribute/train >> > more towards such goals. >> >> Your idea is quite close to what I've been thinking for quite some time :) >> >> Barcamp Melaka is my first (personal) milestone to start getting >> contributors ... >> >> 'with the help of Fedora' .. that would be us :P .. we also need to >> sharpen up our own technical skills in this.... currently from the >> current situation, I'm quite alone whenever it comes to Fedora related >> technology skills ... (eg, writing yum plugins, understanding rpm and >> repositories, knowing some of the codes of some of the internal tools, >> knowing the Fedora infrastructure and libs related to it) ... >> >> So, what I'm planning now, try to guide/get more people who can work >> on these stuff ?... not sure how many i would get though , as so far, >> several had given up .. ?but 1 is always better than 0 .. >> >> RPM Packaging is a start .. anybody going to Barcamp Melaka? :P >> >> > >> > What say you ? >> > >> > -BRIAN RITCHIE >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> Amano Hikaru ???? ???? ???? >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 ?5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-my-list mailing list >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From esqbrianritchie at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 10:43:22 2009 From: esqbrianritchie at gmail.com (BRIAN RITCHIE) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:43:22 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: Kage, I am aware of the GSOC model which was why I said we should consider a similar but not the same model. :-) We got to start somewhere with a model that fits with the culture until we build the maturity to move closer to a GSOC model. -BRIAN RITCHIE On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > 2009/10/28 BRIAN RITCHIE : > > That's great. What we can do in this case is formalize this into a course > > module, part-time or summer project for local universities. Similar to > GSOC, > > we can implement a smaller scale tutorial form with proper end goals for > > students in unis or even high school if we are ambitious enough and have > > adequate resources. Thoughts ? Community ? > > You familiar with GSOC? > > theres no tutorial, the student do everything themselves, with a > mentor to poke when stuck ... which is why USD5000 is given to those > who successfully finished their project .. > > I wonder if our students are ready for such culture ... too many that > i've met want to be spoonfed (and this coming from a student who just > left Uni - me) .. > > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Izhar Firdaus >wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:53 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > >> wrote: > >> > Kage, > >> > > >> > If I may add. We can also take another route to resolve bug #0. We > need > >> to > >> > encourage participation and not merely usage. The challenge of Asia or > at > >> > least SEA at this point is we are heavy consumers but not contributors > >> > particularly b/c we are using not participating. > >> > >> exactly ... we have a lot of consumers here .. but lack of > >> contributors ... and most of the local activities so far, are focused > >> in getting more consumers rather than contributors .. > >> > >> and imo, our group should focus in fixing this bug .. as theres no > >> group (that i've seen so far) try to assess this issue .. > >> > >> > > >> > We perhaps need to take a hands-on approach as well to this issue. > One > >> > such example we can emulate is Damn Vulnerable Linux. What they do is > >> > produce a unpatched ISO of a certain distro for users to download and > >> > attempt to hack on, which actually invites the user to not only use > but > >> > engage with the distro. > >> > >> DSL is created for a different - computer security related - purpose .. > :) > >> > >> > > >> > Perhaps we can identify the Fedora strong points and create such > >> > hackathons/day-0/patch writing competitions with universities to > >> encourage > >> > students to work on real issues. I am sure we can organise such > sessions > >> > with the help of Fedora where the patches can be submitted reviewed > and > >> > approved for use thus encouraging students to indirectly > contribute/train > >> > more towards such goals. > >> > >> Your idea is quite close to what I've been thinking for quite some time > :) > >> > >> Barcamp Melaka is my first (personal) milestone to start getting > >> contributors ... > >> > >> 'with the help of Fedora' .. that would be us :P .. we also need to > >> sharpen up our own technical skills in this.... currently from the > >> current situation, I'm quite alone whenever it comes to Fedora related > >> technology skills ... (eg, writing yum plugins, understanding rpm and > >> repositories, knowing some of the codes of some of the internal tools, > >> knowing the Fedora infrastructure and libs related to it) ... > >> > >> So, what I'm planning now, try to guide/get more people who can work > >> on these stuff ... not sure how many i would get though , as so far, > >> several had given up .. but 1 is always better than 0 .. > >> > >> RPM Packaging is a start .. anybody going to Barcamp Melaka? :P > >> > >> > > >> > What say you ? > >> > > >> > -BRIAN RITCHIE > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > >> Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org > >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 10:56:09 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:56:09 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE wrote: > Kage, > > ? I am aware of the GSOC model which was why I said we should consider a > similar but not the same model. :-) We got to start somewhere with a model > that fits with the culture until we build the maturity to move closer to a > GSOC model. > can I assume you'll be the leader to lead us on this effort? :) .. > -BRIAN RITCHIE > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From wariola at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 11:07:46 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (syamsul anuar) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:07:46 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY at Barcamp Melaka In-Reply-To: References: <4AE80FED.4060301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c8846340910280407l71ff74f6nbabe533fa97f6958@mail.gmail.com> Sorry cannot join as I will be back to Sabah on 12th until 18th of November 2009 to pick up my beloved wife and daughter. Regards, -wariola- On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain > wrote: > > when and where is Barcamp Melaka? > > > > (yes i am lazy to google. spoon feed me please.) > > http://barcamp.org/BarCampMelaka > > 14-15th November 2009 > > that is.. around 2 weeks from today ... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- .: war|ola :. Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience http://fedoraproject.org From esqbrianritchie at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 11:25:20 2009 From: esqbrianritchie at gmail.com (BRIAN RITCHIE) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:25:20 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: Kage, If I were to lead this effort, I have to make a few things clear and if you are agreeable, then I' will go ahead and work on this. 1. I will only be able to work on this as a part-time effort due to job engagements. 2. A model like this will involve other FOSS OS'/Software/ and the likes though I will make a valid effort in highlighting Fedora as well. I believe in unifying FOSS as a whole and not just through one specific OS or app. 3. I will engage the community of FOSS for volunteers to help out with the program where possible b/c I am not as technical oriented as some of you are being both a techie and business guy at the same time. 4. I will respects all opinions as long as they are delivered in a calm and logical way instead of attempting to flame me or any team member/volunteer for the effort simply b/c of our believes/approach 5. All opinions from the community is valid and will be given consideration. No one person is valued more than the other be it internally within the Fedora community/or other FOSS communities around. 6. < Reserve for future use> :-P On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > wrote: > > Kage, > > > > I am aware of the GSOC model which was why I said we should consider a > > similar but not the same model. :-) We got to start somewhere with a > model > > that fits with the culture until we build the maturity to move closer to > a > > GSOC model. > > > > can I assume you'll be the leader to lead us on this effort? :) .. > > > -BRIAN RITCHIE > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From wariola at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 11:45:39 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (syamsul anuar) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:45:39 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c8846340910280445q6d8917c6xb7841698a6a38b7b@mail.gmail.com> Guys, /me in the mygosscon meeting and I need assistance on this matter. As you understand we are being tasked to manage the lightning talks session. I need 5 volunteers for this. Kindly pls show your hand. I think for now, its only me and Kage. Zul cannot make it. Need contribution on this issue. Regards, -wariola- On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:04 PM, syamsul anuar wrote: > > So kage, when is the suitable time for our little testing? mind if its > > tomorrow? > > > > where? > > > -wariola- > > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain > wrote: > > > >> will not be able to attend due to schedule conflicts. sorry guys. > >> > >> will hand banners to Kage as soon as possible. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > .: war|ola :. > > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > > http://fedoraproject.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- .: war|ola :. Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience http://fedoraproject.org From sharuzzaman at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 11:58:27 2009 From: sharuzzaman at gmail.com (Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:58:27 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE7F383.2090208@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: <295041390910280458j3607dc64ia73c985691552a53@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > > or are there some other silent active Ambassadors lurking around in > this ML ?? (which I quite doubt it) > me! :D -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 11:59:26 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:59:26 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: <4AE80428.5080406@akiss.com.my> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE wrote: > Kage, > > ? If I were to lead this effort, I have to make a few things clear and if > you are agreeable, then I' will go ahead and work on this. > > 1. I will only be able to work on this as a part-time effort due to job > engagements. all of us are doing stuff like this parttime :) > 2. A model like this will involve other FOSS OS'/Software/ and the likes > though I will make a valid effort in highlighting Fedora as well. I believe > in unifying FOSS as a whole and not just through one specific OS or app. the Fedora mantra is Upstream Upstream Upstream ... whatever good for upstream, good for Fedora :). if you can get users of a-particular-distro-who-loves-to-keep-their-enhancements-for-themselves to contribute upstream, then that would be way better :D http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects It is of our best interest that upstream gets more people to contribute to them and drive development forward .. > 3. I will engage the community of FOSS for volunteers to help out with the > program where possible b/c I am not as technical oriented as some of you are > being both a techie and business guy at the same time. > 4. I will respects all opinions as long as they are delivered in a calm and > logical way instead of attempting to flame me or any team member/volunteer > for the effort simply b/c of our believes/approach flames ... thats hard to avoid .. just keep your extinguishers ready .. :P > 5. All opinions from the community is valid and will be given consideration. > No one person is valued more than the other be it internally within the > Fedora community/or other FOSS communities around. +1 > 6. < Reserve for future use> :-P > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE >> wrote: >> > Kage, >> > >> > ? I am aware of the GSOC model which was why I said we should consider a >> > similar but not the same model. :-) We got to start somewhere with a >> model >> > that fits with the culture until we build the maturity to move closer to >> a >> > GSOC model. >> > >> >> can I assume you'll be the leader to lead us on this effort? :) .. >> >> > -BRIAN RITCHIE >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> Amano Hikaru ???? ???? ???? >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 ?5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-my-list mailing list >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 12:03:08 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:03:08 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: <6c8846340910280445q6d8917c6xb7841698a6a38b7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> <6c8846340910280445q6d8917c6xb7841698a6a38b7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/10/28 syamsul anuar : > Guys, > > /me in the mygosscon meeting and I need assistance on this matter. > > As you understand we are being tasked to manage the lightning talks session. > I need 5 volunteers for this. Kindly pls show your hand. > > I think for now, its only me and Kage. Zul cannot make it. Need contribution > on this issue. > yup, help needed ... anybody game for it ? we'll be doing a demo on live migration of VM using virt-manager .. no more consumer stuff that i had to do please T_T > Regards, > -wariola- > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:04 PM, syamsul anuar wrote: >> > So kage, when is the suitable time for our little testing? mind if its >> > tomorrow? >> > >> >> where? >> >> > -wariola- >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain >> wrote: >> > >> >> will not be able to attend due to schedule conflicts. sorry guys. >> >> >> >> will hand banners to Kage as soon as possible. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Fedora-my-list mailing list >> >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > .: war|ola :. >> > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience >> > http://fedoraproject.org >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Fedora-my-list mailing list >> > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> Amano Hikaru ???? ???? ???? >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 ?5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-my-list mailing list >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> > > > > -- > .: war|ola :. > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > http://fedoraproject.org > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From esqbrianritchie at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 12:10:20 2009 From: esqbrianritchie at gmail.com (BRIAN RITCHIE) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:10:20 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Noted. I'll keep you posted on my plan in regards to this. Thx a mill Kage On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > wrote: > > Kage, > > > > If I were to lead this effort, I have to make a few things clear and if > > you are agreeable, then I' will go ahead and work on this. > > > > 1. I will only be able to work on this as a part-time effort due to job > > engagements. > > all of us are doing stuff like this parttime :) > > > 2. A model like this will involve other FOSS OS'/Software/ and the likes > > though I will make a valid effort in highlighting Fedora as well. I > believe > > in unifying FOSS as a whole and not just through one specific OS or app. > > the Fedora mantra is Upstream Upstream Upstream ... > > whatever good for upstream, good for Fedora :). > > if you can get users of > a-particular-distro-who-loves-to-keep-their-enhancements-for-themselves > to contribute upstream, then that would be way better :D > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects > > It is of our best interest that upstream gets more people to > contribute to them and drive development forward .. > > > 3. I will engage the community of FOSS for volunteers to help out with > the > > program where possible b/c I am not as technical oriented as some of you > are > > being both a techie and business guy at the same time. > > 4. I will respects all opinions as long as they are delivered in a calm > and > > logical way instead of attempting to flame me or any team > member/volunteer > > for the effort simply b/c of our believes/approach > > flames ... thats hard to avoid .. just keep your extinguishers ready .. :P > > > 5. All opinions from the community is valid and will be given > consideration. > > No one person is valued more than the other be it internally within the > > Fedora community/or other FOSS communities around. > > +1 > > > 6. < Reserve for future use> :-P > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Izhar Firdaus >wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > >> wrote: > >> > Kage, > >> > > >> > I am aware of the GSOC model which was why I said we should consider > a > >> > similar but not the same model. :-) We got to start somewhere with a > >> model > >> > that fits with the culture until we build the maturity to move closer > to > >> a > >> > GSOC model. > >> > > >> > >> can I assume you'll be the leader to lead us on this effort? :) .. > >> > >> > -BRIAN RITCHIE > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > >> Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org > >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 13:25:01 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:25:01 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:10 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE wrote: > Noted. I'll keep you posted on my plan in regards to this. Thx a mill Kage > one thing imo which you should put in your plan .. is to clearly define the border of the project .. you want it to be under Fedora-MY or you want to fork out another group .. if you want to be all-inclusive distro-agnostic, forking out to another group, with its own mailing list, and its own separate project site is better ... > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE >> wrote: >> > Kage, >> > >> > ? If I were to lead this effort, I have to make a few things clear and if >> > you are agreeable, then I' will go ahead and work on this. >> > >> > 1. I will only be able to work on this as a part-time effort due to job >> > engagements. >> >> all of us are doing stuff like this parttime :) >> >> > 2. A model like this will involve other FOSS OS'/Software/ and the likes >> > though I will make a valid effort in highlighting Fedora as well. I >> believe >> > in unifying FOSS as a whole and not just through one specific OS or app. >> >> the Fedora mantra is Upstream Upstream Upstream ... >> >> whatever good for upstream, good for Fedora :). >> >> if you can get users of >> a-particular-distro-who-loves-to-keep-their-enhancements-for-themselves >> to contribute upstream, then that would be way better :D >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects >> >> It is of our best interest that upstream gets more people to >> contribute to them and drive development forward .. >> >> > 3. I will engage the community of FOSS for volunteers to help out with >> the >> > program where possible b/c I am not as technical oriented as some of you >> are >> > being both a techie and business guy at the same time. >> > 4. I will respects all opinions as long as they are delivered in a calm >> and >> > logical way instead of attempting to flame me or any team >> member/volunteer >> > for the effort simply b/c of our believes/approach >> >> flames ... thats hard to avoid .. just keep your extinguishers ready .. :P >> >> > 5. All opinions from the community is valid and will be given >> consideration. >> > No one person is valued more than the other be it internally within the >> > Fedora community/or other FOSS communities around. >> >> +1 >> >> > 6. < Reserve for future use> :-P >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Izhar Firdaus > >wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE >> >> wrote: >> >> > Kage, >> >> > >> >> > ? I am aware of the GSOC model which was why I said we should consider >> a >> >> > similar but not the same model. :-) We got to start somewhere with a >> >> model >> >> > that fits with the culture until we build the maturity to move closer >> to >> >> a >> >> > GSOC model. >> >> > >> >> >> >> can I assume you'll be the leader to lead us on this effort? :) .. >> >> >> >> > -BRIAN RITCHIE >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >> Amano Hikaru ???? ???? ???? >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 ?5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Fedora-my-list mailing list >> >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Fedora-my-list mailing list >> > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> Amano Hikaru ???? ???? ???? >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 ?5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-my-list mailing list >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list >> > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From esqbrianritchie at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 01:53:44 2009 From: esqbrianritchie at gmail.com (BRIAN RITCHIE) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:53:44 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is correct. I will figure out the best way to go forward with this and get back to you. Thx for the advice On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:10 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > wrote: > > Noted. I'll keep you posted on my plan in regards to this. Thx a mill > Kage > > > > one thing imo which you should put in your plan .. is to clearly > define the border of the project .. > > you want it to be under Fedora-MY or you want to fork out another group .. > > if you want to be all-inclusive distro-agnostic, forking out to > another group, with its own mailing list, and its own separate project > site is better ... > > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Izhar Firdaus >wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > >> wrote: > >> > Kage, > >> > > >> > If I were to lead this effort, I have to make a few things clear and > if > >> > you are agreeable, then I' will go ahead and work on this. > >> > > >> > 1. I will only be able to work on this as a part-time effort due to > job > >> > engagements. > >> > >> all of us are doing stuff like this parttime :) > >> > >> > 2. A model like this will involve other FOSS OS'/Software/ and the > likes > >> > though I will make a valid effort in highlighting Fedora as well. I > >> believe > >> > in unifying FOSS as a whole and not just through one specific OS or > app. > >> > >> the Fedora mantra is Upstream Upstream Upstream ... > >> > >> whatever good for upstream, good for Fedora :). > >> > >> if you can get users of > >> a-particular-distro-who-loves-to-keep-their-enhancements-for-themselves > >> to contribute upstream, then that would be way better :D > >> > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects > >> > >> It is of our best interest that upstream gets more people to > >> contribute to them and drive development forward .. > >> > >> > 3. I will engage the community of FOSS for volunteers to help out with > >> the > >> > program where possible b/c I am not as technical oriented as some of > you > >> are > >> > being both a techie and business guy at the same time. > >> > 4. I will respects all opinions as long as they are delivered in a > calm > >> and > >> > logical way instead of attempting to flame me or any team > >> member/volunteer > >> > for the effort simply b/c of our believes/approach > >> > >> flames ... thats hard to avoid .. just keep your extinguishers ready .. > :P > >> > >> > 5. All opinions from the community is valid and will be given > >> consideration. > >> > No one person is valued more than the other be it internally within > the > >> > Fedora community/or other FOSS communities around. > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> > 6. < Reserve for future use> :-P > >> > > >> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Izhar Firdaus < > kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com > >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Kage, > >> >> > > >> >> > I am aware of the GSOC model which was why I said we should > consider > >> a > >> >> > similar but not the same model. :-) We got to start somewhere with > a > >> >> model > >> >> > that fits with the culture until we build the maturity to move > closer > >> to > >> >> a > >> >> > GSOC model. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> can I assume you'll be the leader to lead us on this effort? :) .. > >> >> > >> >> > -BRIAN RITCHIE > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > >> >> Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org > >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > >> Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org > >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From adliazaddin at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 01:57:04 2009 From: adliazaddin at gmail.com (Adli Azaddin) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:57:04 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> <6c8846340910280445q6d8917c6xb7841698a6a38b7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21179be0910281857i531509c2h1d3201c8ec1f5c31@mail.gmail.com> im not raising my hand yet On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > 2009/10/28 syamsul anuar : > > Guys, > > > > /me in the mygosscon meeting and I need assistance on this matter. > > > > As you understand we are being tasked to manage the lightning talks > session. > > I need 5 volunteers for this. Kindly pls show your hand. > > > > I think for now, its only me and Kage. Zul cannot make it. Need > contribution > > on this issue. > > > > yup, help needed ... anybody game for it ? > > we'll be doing a demo on live migration of VM using virt-manager .. > > no more consumer stuff that i had to do please T_T > > > Regards, > > -wariola- > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Izhar Firdaus >wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:04 PM, syamsul anuar > wrote: > >> > So kage, when is the suitable time for our little testing? mind if its > >> > tomorrow? > >> > > >> > >> where? > >> > >> > -wariola- > >> > > >> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> will not be able to attend due to schedule conflicts. sorry guys. > >> >> > >> >> will hand banners to Kage as soon as possible. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > .: war|ola :. > >> > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > >> > http://fedoraproject.org > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > >> Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org > >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-my-list mailing list > >> Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > .: war|ola :. > > Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience > > http://fedoraproject.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-my-list mailing list > > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > From darxlord at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 08:18:42 2009 From: darxlord at gmail.com (darXness darXness) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:18:42 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: <21179be0910281857i531509c2h1d3201c8ec1f5c31@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> <6c8846340910280445q6d8917c6xb7841698a6a38b7b@mail.gmail.com> <21179be0910281857i531509c2h1d3201c8ec1f5c31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: im not sure if i can help.btw,im just newcomer for virt-manager. From wariola at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 08:21:19 2009 From: wariola at gmail.com (syamsul anuar) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:21:19 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> <6c8846340910280445q6d8917c6xb7841698a6a38b7b@mail.gmail.com> <21179be0910281857i531509c2h1d3201c8ec1f5c31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c8846340910290121k443977d8t1147f6b8c300ac12@mail.gmail.com> You are most welcome darxness to join. Dont worry everyone is once a newbies (I am still one!). So wanna join in this time around? -wariola- On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:18 PM, darXness darXness wrote: > im not sure if i can help.btw,im just newcomer for virt-manager. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- .: war|ola :. Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience http://fedoraproject.org From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 08:22:55 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:22:55 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> <6c8846340910280445q6d8917c6xb7841698a6a38b7b@mail.gmail.com> <21179be0910281857i531509c2h1d3201c8ec1f5c31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:18 PM, darXness darXness wrote: > im not sure if i can help.btw,im just newcomer for virt-manager. > but are u coming? ... newcomer or not ... if you help out in setting it up .. and somehow figure out how to use it .. afterward ure no longer a newcomer ... ahaha frankly speaking, neither me nor wariola ever did the multi-server virtualization on virt-manager .. we only know its theoretically possible .. so we decided it might be fun to experiment and demo it ... :P at least afterward we'll know how to do it .. hahaha > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-my-list mailing list > Fedora-my-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-my-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From darxlord at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 08:28:46 2009 From: darxlord at gmail.com (darXness darXness) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:28:46 +0800 Subject: [fedora-my] MyGossCon In-Reply-To: References: <6c8846340910252257s247a06b5j3511dde2e04883bf@mail.gmail.com> <4AE53CBF.6090907@gmail.com> <6c8846340910270404v73d9a9b1me5ace7165c94b299@mail.gmail.com> <6c8846340910280445q6d8917c6xb7841698a6a38b7b@mail.gmail.com> <21179be0910281857i531509c2h1d3201c8ec1f5c31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: wow...nice one..if so,im in.:)