[fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0

[BRIAN RITCHIE]

Kage,

   I am aware of the GSOC model which was why I said we should consider a
similar but not the same model. :-) We got to start somewhere with a model
that fits with the culture until we build the maturity to move closer to a
GSOC model.

-BRIAN RITCHIE

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2009/10/28 BRIAN RITCHIE <esqbrianritchie at gmail.com>:
> > That's great. What we can do in this case is formalize this into a course
> > module, part-time or summer project for local universities. Similar to
> GSOC,
> > we can implement a smaller scale tutorial form with proper end goals for
> > students in unis or even high school if we are ambitious enough and have
> > adequate resources. Thoughts ? Community ?
>
> You familiar with GSOC?
>
> theres no tutorial, the student do everything themselves, with a
> mentor to poke when stuck ... which is why USD5000 is given to those
> who successfully finished their project ..
>
> I wonder if our students are ready for such culture ... too many that
> i've met want to be spoonfed (and this coming from a student who just
> left Uni - me) ..
>
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:53 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE
> >> <esqbrianritchie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Kage,
> >> >
> >> >  If I may add. We can also take another route to resolve bug #0. We
> need
> >> to
> >> > encourage participation and not merely usage. The challenge of Asia or
> at
> >> > least SEA at this point is we are heavy consumers but not contributors
> >> > particularly b/c we are using not participating.
> >>
> >> exactly ... we have a lot of consumers here .. but lack of
> >> contributors ... and most of the local activities so far, are focused
> >> in getting more consumers rather than contributors ..
> >>
> >> and imo, our group should focus in fixing this bug ..  as theres no
> >> group (that i've seen so far) try to assess this issue ..
> >>
> >> >
> >> >  We perhaps need to take a hands-on approach as well to this issue.
> One
> >> > such example we can emulate is Damn Vulnerable Linux. What they do is
> >> > produce a unpatched ISO of a certain distro for users to download and
> >> > attempt to hack on, which actually invites the user to not only use
> but
> >> > engage with the distro.
> >>
> >> DSL is created for a different - computer security related - purpose ..
> :)
> >>
> >> >
> >> >   Perhaps we can identify the Fedora strong points and create such
> >> > hackathons/day-0/patch writing competitions with universities to
> >> encourage
> >> > students to work on real issues. I am sure we can organise such
> sessions
> >> > with the help of Fedora where the patches can be submitted reviewed
> and
> >> > approved for use thus encouraging students to indirectly
> contribute/train
> >> > more towards such goals.
> >>
> >> Your idea is quite close to what I've been thinking for quite some time
> :)
> >>
> >> Barcamp Melaka is my first (personal) milestone to start getting
> >> contributors ...
> >>
> >> 'with the help of Fedora' .. that would be us :P .. we also need to
> >> sharpen up our own technical skills in this.... currently from the
> >> current situation, I'm quite alone whenever it comes to Fedora related
> >> technology skills ... (eg, writing yum plugins, understanding rpm and
> >> repositories, knowing some of the codes of some of the internal tools,
> >> knowing the Fedora infrastructure and libs related to it) ...
> >>
> >> So, what I'm planning now, try to guide/get more people who can work
> >> on these stuff  ... not sure how many i would get though , as so far,
> >> several had given up ..  but 1 is always better than 0 ..
> >>
> >> RPM Packaging is a start .. anybody going to Barcamp Melaka? :P
> >>
> >> >
> >> > What say you ?
> >> >
> >> > -BRIAN RITCHIE
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
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