[Fedora-olpc-list] Intro and meeting proposal

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> 
> Hi all.  I'm Greg DeKoenigsberg.  I'm a community guy for Red Hat. 
> Thanks to everyone who has joined this list.

Hi :)

My name is Sebastian Dziallas and I'm currently mainly focussed on 
education and the creation of spins for Fedora. I'm also the founder of 
the Education SIG here (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education).

> There's a ton of stuff to do in OLPC/Sugar/Fedoraland.  It would be easy 
> for us to lose ourselves in the mountain of work that needs to be done 
> :) so my hope is that we will be able to focus on doing the work that we 
> are best suited to do.  There's a lot of low hanging fruit out there for 
> folks who know the ins and outs of Fedora.

Yeah! Maybe we could even get some kind of collaboration between the 
various efforts related to education currently in Fedora...

> Here's some of my ideas about how we might get started.
> 
> 1. If you are running Fedora right now, please go out and try to install 
> Sugar on Fedora.  You will immediately find a whole bunch of issues.  :)

[...snip...]

> Like I say, in the process of just getting Sugar installed, a lot of 
> work items become clear.  A lot of low hanging fruit on the "get Sugar 
> working in Fedora" front.

As some people already suggested and since it has already been discussed 
some time ago, I'd like to propose a sugar-based Fedora spin. The main 
problem would be a legal one: If we want to call such a spin "Fedora", 
we can only include Fedora bits - so no wget or anything like this. But 
therefore, the activities need to be packaged as RPMs... sounds like 
some work. ;) But such a spin would also decrease the difficulties for 
new users to start with sugar - they could just download the spin and 
try it out first.

> My personal goal is to be using Sugar as my fulltime desktop environment 
> as soon as possible.  I encourage all of you to take that dare.  ;)

Yeah! I certainly like that idea :)

> 2. We need to figure out what our workflow will be.  How do we track 
> tasks?  I've used bugzilla, trac, wikis, and so on and so on.  All of 
> them work, but we just need to agree how to move forward.
> 
> For instance: "package Pippy for Fedora".  Where does that work item live?

Well... only using bugzilla would be a little bit overkill, hu? I'd 
definitely add a wiki. We could even consider using fedorahosted.org, 
which includes trac - and trac contains a wiki and a ticket-management.

Just my 2 cents ;)

> Of course, forwarding package review requests straight to the list is a 
> great start.
> 
> ===
> 
> 3. Meetings!  I'm a big, big believer in weekly meetings for things like 
> this.  Why?  Because meetings are where we all promise to do things, and 
> where we keep those promises week after week.  A mailing list is useful, 
> but there's nothing quite like the awkward silence in real time that 
> follows the question "who's going to do this?" to get a project moving 
> forward.  :)

Agreed! I experienced something like this in the education SIG... those 
meetings are definitely useful! +100

> Therefore, I will propose a meeting time.  Friday, 1300 (1pm) Eastern US 
> time, which is 1700 GMT right now, I believe.  Any takers?  Any 
> counterproposals?

For me, sounds like a fitting time :) I'm located in Europe, so no 
problems here... but I know that it's hard to find a time for all 
people. So it might be not as convincing for others...

> Important to get started soon, while people are interested and we have 
> critical mass.  At last count, 52 people joined this mailing list in the 
> last day.  That's a great start, and I don't want to waste the momentum.

Woohoooo! That's really a lot! Thanks all for joining :)

> --g

Sebastian