[Fedora-olpc-list] Intro and meeting proposal

[Brian Jordan]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian at when.com> wrote:
> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.  I'm Greg DeKoenigsberg.  I'm a community guy for Red Hat. Thanks
>> to everyone who has joined this list.
>
> Hi :)
>
> My name is Sebastian Dziallas and I'm currently mainly focussed on education
> and the creation of spins for Fedora. I'm also the founder of the Education
> SIG here (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education).
>
>> There's a ton of stuff to do in OLPC/Sugar/Fedoraland.  It would be easy
>> for us to lose ourselves in the mountain of work that needs to be done :) so
>> my hope is that we will be able to focus on doing the work that we are best
>> suited to do.  There's a lot of low hanging fruit out there for folks who
>> know the ins and outs of Fedora.
>
> Yeah! Maybe we could even get some kind of collaboration between the various
> efforts related to education currently in Fedora...
>
>> Here's some of my ideas about how we might get started.
>>
>> 1. If you are running Fedora right now, please go out and try to install
>> Sugar on Fedora.  You will immediately find a whole bunch of issues.  :)
>
> [...snip...]
>
>> Like I say, in the process of just getting Sugar installed, a lot of work
>> items become clear.  A lot of low hanging fruit on the "get Sugar working in
>> Fedora" front.
>
> As some people already suggested and since it has already been discussed
> some time ago, I'd like to propose a sugar-based Fedora spin. The main
> problem would be a legal one: If we want to call such a spin "Fedora", we
> can only include Fedora bits - so no wget or anything like this. But
> therefore, the activities need to be packaged as RPMs... sounds like some
> work. ;) But such a spin would also decrease the difficulties for new users
> to start with sugar - they could just download the spin and try it out
> first.
>
>> My personal goal is to be using Sugar as my fulltime desktop environment
>> as soon as possible.  I encourage all of you to take that dare.  ;)
>
> Yeah! I certainly like that idea :)

+1, this is how to get the real bug finding and fixing done.

>
>> 2. We need to figure out what our workflow will be.  How do we track
>> tasks?  I've used bugzilla, trac, wikis, and so on and so on.  All of them
>> work, but we just need to agree how to move forward.
>>
>> For instance: "package Pippy for Fedora".  Where does that work item live?
>
> Well... only using bugzilla would be a little bit overkill, hu? I'd
> definitely add a wiki. We could even consider using fedorahosted.org, which
> includes trac - and trac contains a wiki and a ticket-management.
>
> Just my 2 cents ;)
>
>> Of course, forwarding package review requests straight to the list is a
>> great start.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> 3. Meetings!  I'm a big, big believer in weekly meetings for things like
>> this.  Why?  Because meetings are where we all promise to do things, and
>> where we keep those promises week after week.  A mailing list is useful, but
>> there's nothing quite like the awkward silence in real time that follows the
>> question "who's going to do this?" to get a project moving forward.  :)
>
> Agreed! I experienced something like this in the education SIG... those
> meetings are definitely useful! +100
>
>> Therefore, I will propose a meeting time.  Friday, 1300 (1pm) Eastern US
>> time, which is 1700 GMT right now, I believe.  Any takers?  Any
>> counterproposals?
>
> For me, sounds like a fitting time :) I'm located in Europe, so no problems
> here... but I know that it's hard to find a time for all people. So it might
> be not as convincing for others...
>
>> Important to get started soon, while people are interested and we have
>> critical mass.  At last count, 52 people joined this mailing list in the
>> last day.  That's a great start, and I don't want to waste the momentum.
>
> Woohoooo! That's really a lot! Thanks all for joining :)
>
>> --g
>
> Sebastian
>
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