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Re: Fedora XO Network Test - meeting#2 minutes



Thanks for a great meeting!  

See notes and IRC log attached.

Thanks,
James

On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 13:04 -0500, James Laska wrote:
> Greetings folks,
> 
> By now everyone has had a chance to review Vadim's proposed test plan.
> Several of you have added/modified the page already.  Thank you!
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Network
> 
> If you're not working on anything, please:
>  1. review/modify the posted test pan
>  2. select a task to test against Snap3 (PreviewRelease expected soon)
> 
> I'd like to organize another meeting for this Wednesday November 5,
> preferably before 18:00 UTC for folks in CZ.  
> 
> How does between 8am EST (13:00 UTC) and 1pm EST (18:00 UTC) look for
> folks?
> 
> Thanks,
> James
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Nov 05 09:00:10      <jlaska> | _drj2: atodorov: ping
Nov 05 09:00:58   <atodorov> | jlaska: pong
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Nov 05 09:01:01      <jlaska> | Hey there!
Nov 05 09:01:09    <atodorov> | good morning
Nov 05 09:01:12      <jlaska> | atodorov: going to give a few moments for folks to join 
Nov 05 09:01:19      <jlaska> | g'afternoon :)
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Nov 05 09:02:25    <ivazquez> | Where's the schedule for these things anyways?
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Nov 05 09:02:45      <jlaska> | each team meets when most convenient for them
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Nov 05 09:04:06      <rvokal> | hello
Nov 05 09:04:43      <jlaska> | rvokal: welcome!
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Nov 05 09:04:51      <jlaska> | qark: greetings :)
Nov 05 09:05:01       <qark> | jlaska: hi!
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Nov 05 09:05:42       <chao5> | hi everybody
Nov 05 09:05:45      <jlaska> | chao5: welcome
Nov 05 09:05:46       <chao5> | sorry for being late
Nov 05 09:06:07      <jlaska> | okay, I think that's about who we expected for today
Nov 05 09:06:23      <jlaska> | let's just jump into it ... want to leave lots of open discussion room
Nov 05 09:06:31      <jlaska> | = General News =
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Nov 05 09:06:46      <jlaska> | folks probably already saw the announcement for Preview Release live images (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2008-November/msg00001.html)
Nov 05 09:07:06             * | atodorov already uses it
Nov 05 09:07:24      <jlaska> | there are a few notable improvements ... namely the geode graphics quirks have been worked around (see http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/spin-kickstarts.git?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=commit;h=0cd792c7584523360c7aa291b1c3428e053bc3b3)
Nov 05 09:07:47      <jlaska> | that also allows the graphical bootup to return, minus the hot dog
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Nov 05 09:08:13      <rvokal> | did they push new version of NM in?
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Nov 05 09:08:19      <jlaska> | I haven't used the PreviewRelease ... I'm currently running of a livecd-creator image built on Monday
Nov 05 09:08:54      <jlaska> | rvokal: it appears to have http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=67867
Nov 05 09:09:14       <_drj2> | does it change the default AA setting?  :)
Nov 05 09:09:30      <jlaska> | AA ? anti-aliasing?
Nov 05 09:09:35       <_drj2> | yes
Nov 05 09:10:10      <jlaska> | I believe the xorg.conf config resolves that ... but I'm chasing down something wrt my overlay not being trashed after re-writing the SD card ... so that could be my local config
Nov 05 09:10:24     <rvokal> | jlaska: ok, I'll retest WPA again, there has been some issues with the latest NM version
Nov 05 09:10:30      <jlaska> | so if you haven't already downloaded the PreviewRelease
Nov 05 09:10:46      <jlaska> | rvokal: oh good, let's walk through those issues in a moment
Nov 05 09:11:04       <_drj2> | rvokal: wpa2 or 1?  psk or ent?
Nov 05 09:11:12      <jlaska> | ... please grab the Live image 
Nov 05 09:11:32      <jlaska> | okay next topic ... real quick 
Nov 05 09:11:53      <jlaska> |  * FedoraOnXO Bugs - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=461806&hide_resolved=1
Nov 05 09:12:11      <jlaska> | this is *not* a MUST fix blocker bug list, but merely a collection area for XO related defects
Nov 05 09:12:35      <jlaska> | I don't presently see any network-related issues on there, so if folks are experiencing painful issues, we'll need to get them on the list
Nov 05 09:12:58      <rvokal> | everything works! :) 
Nov 05 09:13:02      <jlaska> | ha! :)
Nov 05 09:13:09      <jlaska> | wouldn't that be nice, huh?
Nov 05 09:13:11   <atodorov> | jlaska: I got one usability issue
Nov 05 09:13:33    <atodorov> | bug #469835, but it seem we have to wait for some upstream work 
Nov 05 09:13:34     <buggbot> | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=469835 medium, medium, ---, dcbw redhat com, CLOSED WONTFIX, NM doesn't identify wireless devices on the XO
Nov 05 09:13:38       <_drj2> | keymaps, power mgmt, and fonts abou summs up that lot
Nov 05 09:14:13      <jlaska> | _drj2: yeah, the keymap issues are being investigated.  The power mgmt _likely_ won't make it in as the upstream patch isn't solid afaik
Nov 05 09:14:32      <jlaska> | atodorov: yeah that is a confusing issue
Nov 05 09:14:37    <ivazquez> | g-p-m is visible in the preview release.
Nov 05 09:14:41      <jlaska> | apparently NM knows that there's a mesh and regular wireless
Nov 05 09:14:54       <_drj2> | oh, thats new
Nov 05 09:15:01      <jlaska> | but full kernel support for the 802.11s isn't "ready for the show" I'm told
Nov 05 09:15:05      <jlaska> | ivazquez: yay!
Nov 05 09:15:12    <atodorov> | it does, but the devices don't identify properly and NM doesn't know which one is which
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Nov 05 09:15:25    <ivazquez> | It constantly shows my battery as 94% and forever charging though.
Nov 05 09:15:48       <_drj2> | ivazquez: does that happen under sugar as well?
Nov 05 09:15:54    <atodorov> | ivazquez: g-p-m shows for me always on AC power 
Nov 05 09:15:54       <_drj2> | (might be a hw issue)
Nov 05 09:15:57      <jlaska> | atodorov: sounds from dcbw there isn't much he can do ... he's waiting on kernel support for the OLPC folks
Nov 05 09:16:08    <ivazquez> | No, sugar and the command line tool under OLPC work fine.
Nov 05 09:16:13      <jlaska> | g-p-m appears to only show the status when you booted
Nov 05 09:16:15   <atodorov> | jlaska: yeah, nothing we can do 
Nov 05 09:16:27      <jlaska> | atodorov: okay :( ... but I 110% agree, it's confusing
Nov 05 09:16:38      <jlaska> | http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/xo-nm-screenshot.png
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Nov 05 09:17:09      <jlaska> | okay ... next topic ... then we'll open it up
Nov 05 09:17:17      <jlaska> |  * Schedule - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule
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Nov 05 09:17:49      <jlaska> | the final Fedora compose is scheduled for next week (2008-11-12)
Nov 05 09:18:23      <jlaska> | we'll of course deal with any critical issues that land after that date ... but that gives us a week to ensure we have bz representation for all our annoyances
Nov 05 09:18:28      <jlaska> | network related :)
Nov 05 09:19:19       <_drj2> | what's the best way to save iwconfig commands?  (specifically, set speed to 54M and power to 20mW, for some reason mine comes up at 1M and power so low that it cant find the AP)
Nov 05 09:19:22      <jlaska> | okay ... so any questions (schedule, preview_release, tracker bug) before we open it up?
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Nov 05 09:19:35             * | jlaska gives the floor to _drj2 
Nov 05 09:19:37 <viking_ice> | jlaska: got my hands on preview dvd yesterday testing it now.. so far not good the installation stretch is not fixed and anaconda froze during installation gdm during log in it started the froze.. when I open firefox the laptop decides to reboots it'self ( just managed to install the lates kernel from koji let's see how it goes ) 
Nov 05 09:20:20      <jlaska> | _drj2: "save" iwconfig commands ... you mean for re-running on subsequent boot ups on the XO?
Nov 05 09:20:22      <_drj2> | jlaska: sorry, hit enter a tad early.  anyhow, overlay gets smashed, so iwconfig stuff doesnt stick
Nov 05 09:20:28      <jlaska> | no worries!
Nov 05 09:21:03       <_drj2> | 20mW (ok, 18 really) is the max the XO will do, it steps down nicely after it's associated.
Nov 05 09:21:24       <_drj2> | NM cant find the AP with the bootup settings :(
Nov 05 09:21:34      <jlaska> | viking_ice: I've had modesetting related reboots ... until I disabled modesetting.  I'm unclear as to what the expectation is with respect to the installer window size ... stretched vs 800x600.  It seems to vacilate throughout releases between the 2
Nov 05 09:22:03      <jlaska> | _drj2: I'm don't know the details, but is that something that NM should find w/ it's default config?
Nov 05 09:22:42      <jlaska> | atodorov: do you think it makes sense for us to record a lot of these issues the team is filing, but won't be addressed for F10?
Nov 05 09:22:43      <_drj2> | jlaska: if the device would come up with full txpower, NM finds the AP (multiple) without issue
Nov 05 09:22:51      <rvokal> | _drj2: how do you check the current setting? iwconfig?
Nov 05 09:22:52      <jlaska> | perhaps in a section on the test plan or something?
Nov 05 09:22:58       <_drj2> | rvokal: yes, iwconfig eth0
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Nov 05 09:23:24   <atodorov> | jlaska: I was thinking to create some sort of table in the wiki page to better track test results and issues
Nov 05 09:23:35      <_drj2> | jlaska: so, ont a NM specific issue really.  more hardware initialization
Nov 05 09:23:43      <jlaska> | atodorov: yeah I think that's a great idea
Nov 05 09:23:46      <jlaska> | something
Nov 05 09:24:05   <atodorov> | jlaska: ok, will add a table for test results and a list of known issues
Nov 05 09:24:09      <jlaska> | atodorov: I'll be happy to stub something to get it started ... lemme know
Nov 05 09:24:54      <jlaska> | _drj2: do you have the same issue with other wireless hardware ... or is it specific to this libertas device?
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Nov 05 09:25:35      <_drj2> | jlaska: sadly, the XO is the only properly supported wifi i have in linux.  (the others use ndiswrapper, so its very different)
Nov 05 09:26:25      <jlaska> | hrmm, I'm not clear on how that's "supposed" to work ... if it should just work, or if your expected to hack it manually
Nov 05 09:26:32       <_drj2> | i'm assuming its specific to the xo i have, because nobody else has reported it
Nov 05 09:26:43      <jlaska> | atodorov: rvokal: qark: chao5: any of you folks know?
Nov 05 09:26:46      <rvokal> | _drj2: it's strange cos I have no problems to find all APs around ..even more than my Dell laptop with intel can see
Nov 05 09:27:14       <_drj2> | rvokal: yep.  what txpower and speed are you using?
Nov 05 09:27:32   <atodorov> | jlaska: my XO finds some of the APs around but same is true for XO w/ Sugar, F9 and RHEL5 on different machines
Nov 05 09:27:39             * | jlaska sees Tx-Power=13 dBm
Nov 05 09:27:45      <rvokal> | tx power says 13dBm
Nov 05 09:27:49    <atodorov> | same here
Nov 05 09:28:03      <rvokal> | speed is 54Mbps
Nov 05 09:28:03       <_drj2> | that's cool.  mine reports 1 on bootup :(
Nov 05 09:28:20       <_drj2> | 13 is about proper for a distant AP
Nov 05 09:28:23        <qark> | _drj2: I've played with NM for some time and I found no issues too
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Nov 05 09:28:59      <jlaska> | _drj2: yours reports 1 ?
Nov 05 09:29:02      <jlaska> | woah ... that sounds odd
Nov 05 09:29:10   <atodorov> | jlaska: mine reports 2
Nov 05 09:29:16    <atodorov> | same under sugar btw
Nov 05 09:29:18      <_drj2> | jlaska: on bootup, yes.  after fixing it with iwconfig - wifi works just ducky
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Nov 05 09:30:52      <jlaska> | _drj2: I think that's worth raising to the larger audience ... hopefully some fedora-olpc-list savvy hardware folks might be able to assist
Nov 05 09:31:36       <_drj2> | 'iwconfig eth0 txpower 20mW' wait a second, and NM finds all sorts of AP love.  After checking back, the txpower drops to 10ish
Nov 05 09:31:55             * | jlaska tries
Nov 05 09:32:36      <_drj2> | jlaska: if yours is already associated, and using some small number for txpower - its fine.  the problem here is that on bootup, it's nearly off
Nov 05 09:33:07      <jlaska> | _drj2: I'd say if doubt, let's get it into bugzilla and start the discussion
Nov 05 09:33:13       <_drj2> | wilco
Nov 05 09:33:36      <jlaska> | who knows, you might have found a data corrupting release blocker lurking :P
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Nov 05 09:34:12      <rvokal> | _drj2: I tried that and it drops back to 13 after few seconds
Nov 05 09:34:27    <atodorov> | _djr2: do you think that might have something to do with a hardware power saving ? 
Nov 05 09:34:37      <_drj2> | jlaska: on the olpc pages, i found somewhat related reports that were either solved by newer firmware or replacing the unit.  (767 includes the newer firmware already)
Nov 05 09:34:38      <rvokal> | _drj2: well, I'm running from battery .. might that influence it?
Nov 05 09:34:53    <atodorov> | rvokal: i'm on AC power, same behavior 
Nov 05 09:34:54       <_drj2> | atodorov: I cant rule that out
Nov 05 09:35:00      <rvokal> | atodorov: k
Nov 05 09:35:42       <_drj2> | rvokal: mine comes up with low txpower on or off a/c power. in both cases, manually setting it to 20 makes it associate nicely.  (where it drops to 10ish)
Nov 05 09:36:16      <jlaska> | With regards to the test plan ... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Networking
Nov 05 09:36:25      <jlaska> | are folks pleased/comfortable with the coverage listed
Nov 05 09:36:34      <jlaska> | are there other exposures we should be investigating?
Nov 05 09:36:49      <_drj2> | jlaska: that page needs a good tech. writter ...
Nov 05 09:37:13      <jlaska> | _drj2: we can get one ... where would you like to see it go?
Nov 05 09:37:16       <_drj2> | a copious one
Nov 05 09:37:56      <_drj2> | jlaska: for network stuffs, we need to test out all the various wifi stuffs in some ordered method
Nov 05 09:38:17      <jlaska> | good point ... what sort of wiki stuffs you have in mind?
Nov 05 09:38:18      <_drj2> | jlaska: wep, wpa1, wpa2 -- both ent and psk
Nov 05 09:38:23      <jlaska> | are they listed, but need to be organized better?
Nov 05 09:38:26       <_drj2> | (if possible)
Nov 05 09:38:51       <_drj2> | hidden essid
Nov 05 09:39:49       <_drj2> | wifi has a zillion things to test; the page should have some explaination of what should work vs. what is unsupported
Nov 05 09:39:55       <_drj2> | (mesh is unsupported for example)
Nov 05 09:40:00      <jlaska> | right ... good point
Nov 05 09:40:26      <rvokal> | hidden essid - good idea, haven't thought about testing it
Nov 05 09:40:31             * | jlaska isn't familiar with that
Nov 05 09:40:44      <jlaska> | oh, where it isn't broadcast?
Nov 05 09:40:49      <_drj2> | jlaska: right
Nov 05 09:41:28       <_drj2> | NM doesnt support changing the BIA MAC, so there's little point in testing that generally
Nov 05 09:41:28      <jlaska> | gotcha, that works @ my home network ... I can add that result once we choose a format
Nov 05 09:41:59      <jlaska> | so there's an aspect of testing various networking hardware (built-in libertas, and USB attached networking)
Nov 05 09:42:18      <jlaska> | and then there's a component of testing all sorts of WIFI interaction
Nov 05 09:42:32       <_drj2> | my local stores didnt have a usb-eth that was supported :(
Nov 05 09:42:55      <jlaska> | right now the plan outlines some hardware and software applications 
Nov 05 09:43:02      <jlaska> | what's a good way to present the wifi matrix?
Nov 05 09:43:31      <rvokal> | essid type / encryption?
Nov 05 09:43:43      <rvokal> | or ap type / encryption
Nov 05 09:44:02      <jlaska> | as the 2 axis' on a matrix
Nov 05 09:44:08      <rvokal> | yep
Nov 05 09:44:16       <_drj2> | rvokal: as long as 'ap type' doesnt turn into "dlink vs. linksys" (brand should not matter)
Nov 05 09:44:40      <rvokal> | _drj2: nope, I mean public essid, hidden, ad-hoc
Nov 05 09:44:55             * | _drj2 agrees completely
Nov 05 09:45:02      <jlaska> | rvokal: would you mind taking a crack at that matrix ... jsut to help visualize things?
Nov 05 09:45:17             * | jlaska curses his reliance on visual learning 
Nov 05 09:45:22     <rvokal> | jlaska: will do
Nov 05 09:45:30      <jlaska> | rvokal: oh good, thank you!!
Nov 05 09:45:34        <qark> | rvokal: I'll help you
Nov 05 09:45:35    <atodorov> | rvokal: I can help with some wiki stuff 
Nov 05 09:45:38     <rvokal> | jlaska: I'll get to that later tonight
Nov 05 09:45:41      <jlaska> | that sounds like it will mesh well with what atodorov was discussing
Nov 05 09:45:42      <rvokal> | qark: cool :)
Nov 05 09:45:46      <_drj2> | jlaska: are you one of those powerpoint learners? :)
Nov 05 09:45:54      <jlaska> | ha!  not quite
Nov 05 09:46:01      <jlaska> | but I do like pictures :)
Nov 05 09:46:39      <jlaska> | with the matrix in place that should provide plenty of cells for the team to fill in with results
Nov 05 09:46:58      <jlaska> | rvokal: one example of how we record test results into the wiki can be seen at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestResults/Fedora10Install/Preview
Nov 05 09:47:11      <jlaska> | you don't _have_ to use that format by any means, but just as a example use of tables
Nov 05 09:48:21      <rvokal> | ok
Nov 05 09:48:27      <jlaska> | alright ... sounds like we have some good ideas around what the matrix needs to have ... what else?
Nov 05 09:48:56      <jlaska> | should we be playing with creating ad-hoc networks?
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Nov 05 09:49:11       <_drj2> | does NM support ad-hoc?
Nov 05 09:49:14      <jlaska> | I'm not sure that's useful unless you have 2 iface's to use
Nov 05 09:49:14      <jlaska> | yeah
Nov 05 09:49:15    <atodorov> | it's worth trying 
Nov 05 09:49:16       <_drj2> | (in theory anyhow)
Nov 05 09:49:20        <qark> | _drj2: yes, it does
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Nov 05 09:49:30      <rvokal> | it does .. just click on create new network
Nov 05 09:49:31       <_drj2> | if it's supported, then it should be tested (if possible)
Nov 05 09:49:50      <jlaska> | that might bleed into more testing of the various encryption settings supported by NM ... but it can't hurt to exercise that code
Nov 05 09:50:12       <_drj2> | if we find bugs, that's fine.  just as long as we can match up a bz#
Nov 05 09:50:18      <jlaska> | definitely
Nov 05 09:50:28      <jlaska> | is it useful to test that?
Nov 05 09:50:50      <jlaska> | meaning, you really need another network interface for your ad-hoc clients to get out on the internets on right?
Nov 05 09:50:51       <_drj2> | sadly, i dont know how many ppl use ad-hoc.  if nobody uses it ...
Nov 05 09:51:03             * | jlaska uses it sometimes to let his phone connect
Nov 05 09:51:07    <atodorov> | I use ad-hoc at home
Nov 05 09:51:09      <_drj2> | jlaska: oh, to test - you need two cards set to the same ad-hoc net
Nov 05 09:52:09      <jlaska> | I can add in content to the test plan around ad-hoc network creation/joining ... should that be a separate matrix from what rvokal was investigating?
Nov 05 09:52:25       <_drj2> | so, the matrix should say "tested", and somewhere below that - some explaination of how it was tested along with result details
Nov 05 09:52:34       <_drj2> | (for any given test)
Nov 05 09:52:38      <rvokal> | guys, sorry I have to leave now
Nov 05 09:52:45      <rvokal> | I'll join again tonight
Nov 05 09:52:50      <jlaska> | rvokal: thanks for joining!  stay tuned for the minutes :)
Nov 05 09:52:50      <rvokal> | and will take a look on that matrix
Nov 05 09:52:59      <rvokal> | sure! :)
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Nov 05 09:53:09       <_drj2> | rvokal: cheers man
Nov 05 09:53:09   <linuxguru> | okay just installed the preview out of a liveusb and setup /home encrypted now when it boots lets me into a shell
Nov 05 09:53:15      <jlaska> | _drj2: yeah, perhaps I'll just get the content in ... and then rvokal and we can decide if it could be organized better
Nov 05 09:53:36      <jlaska> | any other open discussion items before we close out?
Nov 05 09:53:37   <linuxguru> | saying a an error occurred during the file system check
Nov 05 09:54:18    <atodorov> | linuxguru: it probably failed to decrypt /home before running fsck
Nov 05 09:54:38   <linuxguru> | yeah seems like that. does re-building initrd helps?
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Nov 05 09:55:49      <jlaska> | atodorov: _drj2: qark: chao5: okay, if no other topics we'll close it out
Nov 05 09:56:07      <jlaska> | let's try to get our content into the test plan this week ... and I'll send out feelers for a meeting early next week
Nov 05 09:57:03      <_drj2> | jlaska: no meetings on monday.  that should be a rule :)
Nov 05 09:57:12       <_drj2> | (any other morning's fine by me)
Nov 05 09:57:20      <jlaska> | hehe, no kidding
Nov 05 09:57:42      <jlaska> | I'll put out some proposed times ... want to meet before final compose for a run through of issues
Nov 05 09:57:54      <jlaska> | okay ... going once, twice ... 
Nov 05 09:58:09      <jlaska> | and ...
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Nov 05 09:58:25      <_drj2> | jlaska: thanks!
Nov 05 09:58:32      <jlaska> | thrice!  Thanks chao5 qark rvokal atodorov _drj2 ... good meeting :)
Nov 05 09:58:53      <jlaska> | ___ now back to your regularly scheduled testing ___
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Nov 05 10:03:14   <linuxguru> | but this error is different. i have been searching bugzilla for errors with the encrypted partitions most of them report or ask for password and then fails
Nov 05 10:03:24   <linuxguru> | what kind of check it is doing remains a mystery
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Nov 05 10:05:03      <wwoods> | okay! it's 1500UTC, and technically that's when the QA meeting is scheduled
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Nov 05 10:12:27   <atodorov> | jlaska: how does this mock-up look https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Networking#Test_results ? 
Nov 05 10:12:43    <atodorov> | I can start filing some results and writing the test cases for them 
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Nov 05 10:14:53      <jlaska> | oh that's perfect!
Nov 05 10:15:15    <atodorov> | ok, starting with some test cases then
Nov 05 10:15:19      <jlaska> | if it gets too convoluted ... we can move the results matrix into it's own wiki page
Nov 05 10:15:40    <atodorov> | sure, whatever works best
Fedora XO Network Meeting
2008-11-05 - 14:00 UTC

= Attendees =
 * atodorov
 * _drj2
 * jlaska
 * rvokal
 * qark
 * chao5

= General News =
 * PreviewRelease - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2008-November/msg00001.html
 * FedoraOnXO Bugs - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=461806&hide_resolved=1
 * Schedule - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule
   + 1 week of testing left before final compose

= Test Plan =
 * Where are we, what's left
 * Owners

= Open Discussion =

_djr2 - asked how to save iwconfig commands for future reboots since overlay is trashed?  

atodorov - recommended tracking how we keep track of issues discovered on the wiki.

_djr2 - wifi has a zillion things to test; the page should have some explaination of what should work vs. what is unsupported (mesh is unsupported for example)

_djr2 - hidden essid?

rvokal - would like to see a test result matrix in the wiki of ap type / encryption 

jlaska - ad-hoc network creation?  should we test this

= Action Items =

* rvokal - create test results matrix in Test Plan
* atodorov - create a "known issues" section full of filed but unresolved defects
* jlaska - stub in ad-hoc network creation tests into test plan

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