How to move on? Spins, SoaS, and more!

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So what educational solutions do we currently have to offer?
>>>
>>> * Sugar on a Stick [1] - well, this is mainly self-explaining, right? As far
>>> as I can see now, it's going to be a Fedora based image including Sugar
>>> (among with more activities).
>>>
>>> * Fedora Sugar Spin [2] - it's mainly the same concept as SoaS, but can only
>>> include stuff which is directly in Fedora. On the other hand, it uses the
>>> Fedora trademark.
>>>
>>> So. What's obvious here? SoaS and the Sugar Spin are probably targeting the
>>> same user group and seem to be (apart from some modifications) pretty equal
>>> to each other.
>> I would think soas would be the Sugar Fedora spin as the aim is to get
>> everything currently shipped in the OLPC releases upstream in Fedora
>> in time for Fedora 11 so that Fedora and the OLPC OS are one and the
>> same.
> 
> I tend to think both OLPC and SoaS will want to apply at least some
> small customizations (disk space constraints alone is a reason that
> will cause divergences). My suggestion is to keep developing the
> Fedora spin as *the* reference kickstart. Deployment
> communities/organizations will tweak it slightly (or import it) and do
> builds following their release cycle.
> 
> Marco

Yeah, I tend to agree. If you just have a look at the current soas 
kickstart file, it includes activities, which are not yet in Fedora. 
That's possible, because it isn't using the Fedora tradebark. But there 
might be other customizations; true.

Well, there should be probably a reference kickstart somewhere, but I'm 
wondering whether we still need to push out an iso on behalf of Fedora, 
or if we can just promote SoaS, too. Adding SoaS to the liveusb-creator 
instead of the Fedora Sugar Spin should be (hopefully) no big deal. It 
would have the advantage that SoaS doesn't need to follow Fedora's 
release cycle and we wouldn't promote outdated stuff that way, because 
SoaS can be re-released when needed.

I'm just feared of confusing users with having both solutions around, 
and I currently see more advantages for SoaS. :)

Though, It could be a possibility to continue to maintain the 
fedora-livecd-sugar.ks in the spin-kickstarts GIT repo - I never 
intended to stop completely the development, I was just asking how to 
combine forces ;). We'd need to check, whether Spin SIG is okay with that...

But if people still want an 'Fedora Sugar Spin', I'll continue to push 
it through the process and try to get it out for F11.

--Sebastian