[Bug 432965] Review Request: openclipart - Open Clip Art Library

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Summary: Review Request: openclipart - Open Clip Art Library
Alias: openclipart-review

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=432965


nicubunu at gmail.com changed:

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------- Additional Comments From nicubunu at gmail.com  2008-02-15 10:35 EST -------
Yeah, I am *almost* a founder of OCAL and one of the top content creators,
thanks for adding me.

There is a long story, so please bear with me: at first we started OCAL without
any infrastructure, only a form where people can upload their contribution, so
the only way to share the content was monthly tarball releases. Then we got a
browsing interface, where was possible to access the images included in the
latest release, with newer uploads kept in an "incoming" area and included only
at the next release.
The 0.18 release (October 2005) was the last using this system, the interface
broke and we didn't have the developers available to fix it, the website went on
hiatus for several months. We tried a 0.19 release but it didn't got finished.
Then we changed the infrastructure, migrating to ccHost which didn't provide an
easy way to easily import the old images, so here are we now: 7000+ images in
the old system (the 0.18 and 0.19 release) and 6000+ new images in the current
interface (ccHost). There is a move to *slowly* import them by hand (one by one,
for 7000+ images...)

So back to your questions:

1.) 0.18 release is indeed old, but is the latest and there are no plans to do
another in the near future. AFAIK, there is no easy way to provide a package in
the current interface, but I will take the question to the mailing list.

2.) I agree about not providing PNGs, they are thumbnails with a small size
(128x128), so not really useful as stand alone images and Nautilus will display
the thumbnails for SVG. Maybe if we include some tools like TuxPaint and find a
way for them to use the PNG version of the clipart images... but I don't think
this is a priority.

3.) I am not sure about that. I guess integration with the gtk file dialog is a
good start. IIRC the 0.18 release has the files organized in a directory
structure based on keywords so it can be accessed easily.

4.) Tools:
- Inkscape is the primary user of those images, having a bookmark in the gtk
dialog would be good enough IMO. Note that the upcoming 0.46 provides a "Import
from OCAL" dialog *but*: it can access only the images from the new repository
(not the ones included in the 0.18 release), the dialog is awful (both as
interface and functionality) and it work only online;
- OpenOffice.org can't open natively open SVG files (there are plans to to so,
but I don't know about the targets, ask Caolan about that). There is a 3-rd
party plugin which can import SVG files, but it is not included in Fedora, is
written in Java and it used to not work with the free Java (I don't know about
IcedTead) - again, perhaps some imput from Caolan would be useful (I added him
in CC);
- GIMP can make use of those clipart images, I insert them with drag and drop
from Nautilus, but I believe a bookmark in the gtk open dialog would suffice
(and it would suffice for a lot of other gtk applications like glabels);
- it is not part of our default install, so not that important, but Scribus is
another great user of the clipart. Since it uses the qt framework, I am
personally *that* biased and have not used it in a long time (and have not it
installed) so I am not able to comment much about it (a bookmark in the KDE/qt
open dialog?).

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