[Bug 429028] Review Request: upstart - an event-driven init daemon

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Summary: Review Request: upstart - an event-driven init daemon


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429028





------- Additional Comments From cjdahlin at ncsu.edu  2008-01-21 15:12 EST -------
(In reply to comment #16)
> (In reply to comment #15)
> > If we need more than one init system, we've failed.
> 
> Fedora as such shouldn't need it but we cannot discard the
> possibility that somebody steps up to keep on maintaining the 
> old system. In that case the alternative would still be useful.
> It could also be used by initng, by the way, or the next init
> system, with early planning and testing.
> 

This defeats the whole purpose of the package.

While this release is intended to simply swap in upstart in an unobtrusive
manner, taking full advantage of Upstart's power is going to involve many
changes to our current system. While packages wishing to install LSB/SysV
scripts will still work, there will eventually come a day when none of our
scripts use these mechanisms (i.e. when a default fedora install has an empty
/etc/init.d). This package provides compatibility with sysvinit, but an
alternative it is not. Upstart is going to allow us to build a very powerful and
robust init system, but it will be one which init-ng and sysv will likely not be
capable of driving.

By all means judge this package with the weight it demands. This is a very real
and very permanent change to a very central part of Fedora.

However, all of this gets off topic. The purpose of this bugzilla is to review
the practice of packaging upstart, not the principle. That we can save for Thursday.

> > (See also: "not about choice", (c) 2008 ajax.)
> 
> I disagreed in the thread, I won't agree now...



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