[Fedora-packaging] Re: what policy for python egg files

Axel Thimm Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
Sat Dec 16 13:50:24 UTC 2006

On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 01:16:08PM +0000, José Matos wrote:
> On Saturday 16 December 2006 1:09 pm, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > egg is a packaging method that is orthogonal to what we use. Leaving
> > the eggs around may get users to start using egg-installation and get
> > files on the system unregistered by rpm.
> >
> > Or not? If the above is correct eggs should even be banned just as
> > other non-native package formats are banned (debs or tarballs for
> > example).
>   On one hand I agree with Axel, on the other this allows installations per 
> user, no?
>   What is our policy regarding other programming language ( with their 
> repositories cpan, cran, ctan)...

A user may download tarballs, cpan/ctan, alienated debs and install
them under $HOME or /usr/local, we don't mandate anything about that
places. But we wouldn't start shipping rpm-foreign bits to endorse
people doing so - especially not, if they would override the rpm
itself that is shipping the egg for example.

E.g. the user has an issue with the package (maybe a real bug, maybe
just not rtfm), sees the egg, erroneously thinks that he needs to
complete the rpm installation by using it and does so. Later package
updates are not seen anymore by the user, since he's using a local
copy of the previous package.

>   This should probably be a general policy, no?

Well, even if it is not written down somewhere explicitely it is
rather assumed. It is also a difficult wording, of course the user is
free to use debs, ctan, eggs and so on, and we won't explicitely
forbid this, but we shouldn't push users to do so either.

Perhaps: "Packaging tarballs or other non-rpm packaging formats within
the package is strongly discoursaged as it may misguide users to
override the package by using them"
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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