[Fedora-packaging] Statistics on usage of disttags in Fedora Core and Extras

Christopher Stone chris.stone at gmail.com
Mon Apr 9 16:55:37 UTC 2007

On 4/9/07, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora at leemhuis.info> wrote:
> Christopher Stone schrieb:
> > On 4/9/07, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora at leemhuis.info> wrote:
> >> Christopher Stone schrieb:
> >>> On 4/7/07, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora at leemhuis.info> wrote:
> >>>> Christopher Stone schrieb:
> >>>>> On 4/6/07, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora at leemhuis.info> wrote:
> >>>>>> I also plan to remove disttags from those of my packages that update
> >>>>>> seldom, as I think it's just utterly confusing if there are packages in
> >>>>>> FC7 that still have a disttag ".fc6" in it.
> >>>>> huh?  How is this even physically possible?
> >>>>> /me am confused.
> >>>> You mean "Packages in FC7 that have .fc6 as disttag"? Easy: That happens
> >>>> if a packages was never rebuild during a devel cycle. And that happens
> >>>> quite often:
> >>> So in other words, when the release team branches devel to F7 they
> >>> don't do a rebuild on all packages like they should?
> >>>
> >>> This seems just a little dangerous to me.  All packages should be
> >>> rebuilt on branches.
> >> /me is nor sure if Christopher means the devel branch before or after
> >> branching for F7 (in this case).
> >
> > Well, what makes most sense to me is to branch devel to F7.  Then do a
> > rebuild on all the packages in F7.  This should be done at the time
> > when you freeze stuff (that is only bug fixes go in).  This way
> > package maintainers can put big changes in devel and bug fixes in F7.
> devel currently gets branched to F7 when F7 is ready (e.g. the rawhide
> is (nearly) identical to F7 then). Nobody would want to rebuild
> everything at that point of time ;-)
> So your idea *with the current branching procedure* is a no go.
> >>>  I am really quite surprised that this is not
> >>> already done.  There are already automatic rebuilding scripts, why not
> >>> just kick off a shell script?
> >> Because some packagers dislike that? To avoid that users have to
> >> download new packages just because they were rebuild? There are probably
> >> more reasons that don't come to my mind yet.
> > Why would you have to download a new package?  You arent bumping the
> > release tag or changing the spec file at all.   All you are doing is
> > firing off a build of the current package in a new branch.
> Example: synaptics-0.14.4-8.fc6 in rawhide and FC-6 now; gets rebuild
> for F7, so new package is named synaptics-0.14.4-8.fc7. Yum/Anaconda
> will download and update the new package.

Ah I see.  So, what is this yum-presto package I've seen recently and
delta rpms?  I don't know much about it, but it sounds like a solution
to this "problem".

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