[Fedora-packaging] Re: LibtoolArchives, v0.3

Axel Thimm Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
Wed Jan 17 23:15:10 UTC 2007

On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 10:09:49AM -0600, Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 17:06 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > O
> > My proposal is to allow *.la files to live and kindly divert people
> > crying too loud about it to assist upstream in fixing the
> > issues. Don't forget that there are already patches for dealing with
> > 95% of our issues available.
> I'm really not trying to rehash this thread, but the original reason for
> nuking .la files was the nasty tendency they had of creating bogus (?)
> dependency spirals of doom. Am I wrong in remembering that? If I'm not
> wrong, has this been solved somehow?

Well, when I tried to hit the edge of the wedge into this back in
October I asked

| Revisting the root of evil. What exactly is wrong with not removing
| all *.la files?

There were tons of answers only not really on-topic for that
question. I still think that the possible issues were overmagnified
and the pain of carrying them outweighs the pain we've already have to
go through. I also wonder how we manged to live with them previously
and why other distributions haven't been eaten by the spiral of doom.

So let me ask again: What's really that bad about including the
current *.la files into devel by default (unless really needed in main
packages) other than a couple more dependencies between *-devel
packages and how bad are these "bloated" devel interdependencies?

I'd really like to see people fix the issue upstream than trying to
engineer the output (again: there are already patches obviously
working for several cases, there is no need to rewrite libtool from

Any statement on omitting which *.la files had to be revised a couple
of months later, which is in the nature of working against upstream
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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