[Fedora-packaging] Re: Use of Internal Libraries

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

On Saturday, 20 September 2008 at 11:34, Axel Thimm wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:09:15PM +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > On Friday, 19 September 2008 at 19:01, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 02:59:22PM +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > > > On Friday, 19 September 2008 at 09:59, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 10:34 +0300, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > > Just to quote one such example: ffmpeg is a fast moving target, and
> > > > > > any project depending on the lib API is cutting a checkout, patching
> > > > > > it a up and using it for its own purposes. Replacing these internal
> > > > > > ffmpegs with a system ffmpeg is a nightmare or even impossible w/o
> > > > > > rewriting the app interface to it. Given that ffmpeg and friends fall
> > > > > > under the patent forbidden class we don't see that directly in Fedora,
> > > > > > but this issue is still out there.
> > > > > Well, ffmpeg is a special case wrt. many issues. If they were doing a
> > > > > proper job, they would release properly versioned packages with properly
> > > > > versioned APIs, which could be installed in parallel.
> > > > 
> > > > They(we) don't have the manpower to do proper releases, but we do maintain
> > > > properly versioned API/ABI. The position of a release manager for FFmpeg
> > > > has been open for months. Many people complained, but nobody is willing
> > > > to do the legwork.
> > > 
> > > Actually I did, you can read it up at the archives, but the ffmpeg
> > > devs didn't think this would be a good idea. The only positive
> > > comments were from other distribution packagers that would have even
> > > joined the release team taskforce, but w/o the developers' blessing
> > > (and at the very least a "do it now" assignment) there wasn't much we
> > > could do.
> > 
> > I've just re-read that thread and AFAICT nobody said it wasn't a good idea.
> > At least one developer offered to help. You even offered to prepare a release
> > candidate but never did.
> 
> Please check the "ranks" of the developers, some of them were even
> banned from ffmpeg,

I have no idea what you're talking about. Who was banned, exactly?

> and how on earth could I prepare a release if the
> developers decide not to allow for scm access?

I never saw you asking for that.

Regards,
R.

PS. Feel free to continue off-list, this is getting off-topic.

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