[Bug 520505] Spurious dependency on perl(Test::More)

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--- Comment #13 from Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta at iki.fi>  2009-09-08 02:47:52 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #12)

> You claimed I'd done "actual harm" to Fedora

No I didn't, please read comment 4 again (I guess that's what you're referring
to).  But let's not get caught up with this or other word games.

> How about, instead of bashing, we sit down and try to work out how to best do
> this

I have plenty on my plate so no thanks for now.  But on a brief look,
FullyTestablePerl looks like a good idea that would pretty much eliminate my
concerns.  And Stepan's suggestion at end of comment 9 (+ some real thought
from the packagers whether to ship the tests) would be an improvement in the
meantime.

> I'd like to see the evidence of any concrete harm done specific to including
> the test suites in %_docdir, but I haven't seen any yet

The reasons given in comment 8 demonstrate why I think this stuff is harmful. 
IMO it makes affected packages worse than they would be without those issues,
which I think qualifies this practice as harmful.  You don't agree with it, but
the "evidence" is there, and one (very insignificant) manifestation of it is
this very bug.  Dismissing it as handwaving, FUD or nonexistent is a bit
extreme.

I think it's about time we let this bug rest in peace and continue the
discussion in another more appropriate medium in case someone still has
something to say.

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