Regarding the graphical boot and not showing kernel-messages.

[Kent Nyberg]

tor 2003-07-31 klockan 18.59 skrev Alan Cox:
> > boot the system, i found the system still printing out kernel-messages.
> > The thing is that while installing the system i got some pictures
> > showing up in the installer about (from memory, not sure about spelling
> > or if its 100% as it was written in the image) "Who understood those
> > kernel message anyway?".
> > But, the kernel is still printing messages. Is it not only the
> > init-process not printing messages and thats not the kernel is it?
> 
> Indeed. Its actually quite easy to hide the kernel messages by default
> and keep a blank screen, its a bit trickier to drop in a logo (as it is
> in text mode). 

Adding a graphical system to the kernel is out of the question, or?
Like, adding X to the kernel that is. Maybe not X, but som sort of
graphical system that can init the video and show graphics?
This would maybe depend on a rewrite of the drivers for the cards, i do
not know that much about these things. But has it been rejected as an
idé?



> Its also important that people can get to the messages on
> something like a boot up hang so they can report them
> 

How about turning them off by default and having the bootloader print
"Starting Linux.." and let the kernel print nothing while doing the
things it does and then start X as you do? For people having problems
and wanting to report the problem you could have them add "console=.."
or something so they see the debugging information?

Adding the "console=/dev/null" to the kernel did work for me nicely, but
grub messes it up by printing out debug-information which for me is
meaningless information.
I wanted to try to make the boot look nice but knowing grub-information
is not my definition of nice boot :)

I can understand the need of printing errors but printing a huge amount
of information when everything is ok seems a bit to much technical.

If normal users find it to hard to make grub add a command to the kernel
then its grubs problem and not yours :) Well, grubs problems is our
problems.. but i hope you understand my point.