Speakup in kernel

[Janina Sajka]

Michael K. Johnson writes:
> From: "Michael K. Johnson" <johnsonm at redhat.com>
> 
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:55:37AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > I think we're also trying to move it upstream as a coordinated componant
> > in a matrix of devices requiring support from the bios through the
> > desktop.
> 
> Wow, I'm having trouble groking that.  I maintain that if it can
> be submitted for our kernel, it can be submitted upstream.  If it
> is not ready for upstream, I stand by my opinion that it is not
> ready for our kernel either.

Except, it's already been in your kernel, (8.0), as you know. So it's
not a new subject here, while it is a new subject as a kernel
submission.  So, it's easier to have this conversation, because less is
needed by way of introduction.

By the way, the I18N issues which triggered the retraction are long ago
fixed. Is there some other problem that explains why Speakup is not back
in the newer kerneles for 8.0? Isn't it company policy to keep the
release features updated?
> 
> > Indeed, there is a releated FSG project now getting under way
> > in the new Accessibility WG I chair under FSG.
> 
> I'm thinking lkml and kernel.org, not FSG...
> 
Taking the approach that accessibility needs to be considered from
bootup to shutdown certainly extends beyond the scope of any one group.
However, it is important to consider the whole, not just the parts. Else
we end up with the kind of conflicts we narrowly avoided between
Gnopernicus and brltty. I'm well aware kernel and bios are out of scope
for traditional FSG activity. However, reaching out to other groups in
order to create a holisticresponse.
> > Meanwhil, modularized Speakup is good stuff and much needed today. I
> > would venture to say that we listened when we were told "modularize it."
> > However, are we waiting for perfection in any product to put it in the
> > distro? I suspect not. So, please accept our significant progress with
> > the strong assurance that we share the larger, more long-term goal to
> > "move upstream."
> 
> We're rather late for FC1.
> 
> Has the driver been ported (inasmuch as is necessary) to 2.6 yet?
> 
I daresay being comfortably used under 2.6 by a number of folks.

> Finally, this is really a fedora-devel-list topic.
Indeed. I've now cc'd there. But, it's also in response to someone's
question on this list.

> 
> michaelkjohnson
> 
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Janina Sajka
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Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
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Chair, Accessibility Work Group
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