What are consequences (the lack of freedom on the USA)

[Maynard Kuona]

I realize this is tall order, but I think taking a page out of Microsoft
book could be a good idea here. I use both Windows and Linux. I
absolutely hate Windows Media Player, and would use an open source Media
player in a flash. I tried Zinf, good but lacks some important features.
Its cross platform too, so that is good. (By the way, any chances of
including that in Fedora?). If Fedora/redhat could sponsor the
making/porting of a very good player for Windows and Linux, People could
get used to vorbis if it is used by default, and with all the right
messages everywhere, we could encourage people to use ogg. Once ogg
becomes entrenched, i.e, hardware companies are bringing out all their
players with vorbis support, Microsoft wil have no choice but to ship
vorbis. It is BSD licensed like the TCP/IP stack, so no problem.

This would also be a good way to get a good player on Linux too. Sorry,
but Mplayer, Xine et al are not good. They work well, but are not good.

-----Original Message-----
From: fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com
[mailto:fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jim - 815 beta
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 2:55 AM
To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
Subject: Re: What are consequences (the lack of freedom on the USA)

Thiago Vinhas de Moraes wrote:

>Em Seg, 2003-09-22 às 18:54, Alan Cox escreveu:
>  
>
>>Fedora being US based is not a solution and was not a solution for
those
>>non US citizens entitled to use some things that US citizens are
forbidden.
>>Its no different to everything else - multiregion DVD players are the
norm
>>except in the USA, but that doesn't mean US citizens can safely import
>>them or that the ability to import them 'solves the problem'
>>
>>For non US citizens solving the problem means solving it outside the
USA
>>without US companies help. 
>>    
>>
>
>It's very ironic. The country that claims to be "free", where people
>**think** that have freedom to do anything they want, can't use a
>inofensive DVD disc made on another region, or can't listen to MP3
>music. 
>
>  
>
The problem doesn't lie in the wake of freedom for mp3 and DVD playing. 
The problem lies in the "Art" of making a buck from an idea or a
technology.

These ideal for paying welfare to someone's thoughts or works well 
beyond the actual worth if the idea or the tecnology is simply called 
greed and intellectual property.

You can look at the richest people in america and see that most of them 
were college dropouts. But they still claim intellectual property.

The masses are set on commercialism and go along with the flow that 
corporatism has levereged against the user that demands a free operating

system. This is where ogg format. the Linux kernel, the GPL licensing 
and the forward movement of Linux is here for. SCO and other companies 
that demand money for ideas are the trouble in our mesh. Intelligence 
and Freedom are very important and are being infringed upon.

But like walking in a "bad neighborhood" we have to watch out for the 
ones that take money from others by force. Linux and the community are 
trying to stay out of the "bad neighborhoods".

We all have our countries of origin and all have different laws. Of 
course this list is not to discuss the political differences, just the 
free operating system for computers.

Jim



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