From dennis at ausil.us Mon Mar 1 03:19:57 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:19:57 +1000 Subject: KDE Restart/Shutdown? In-Reply-To: References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077901534.2297.16.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <200403011319.57045.dennis@ausil.us> On Sunday 29 February 2004 2:05 am, Sean Earp wrote: > Hello All- > > This may be expected behavior for KDE, but under the "Logout" menu, > there is not the option to restart or shutdown as there is in Gnome. > Is this just the way KDE works, or should this be filed as an RFE or > bug? (In the interests of maintaining consistency between GNOME and KDE > in Fedora, it would be nice if the same menu option exhibited the same > behavior... > > -Sean > if you use kdm as your display manager then you can shutdown or reboot the system from kde for some reason when using GDM it doesnt work as you would expect. you can either remove the gdm package and restart x or edit /etc/sysconfig/desktop and add a line DISPLAYMANAGER="KDM" and restart x and you will get the expected behaviur from kde Dennis From tim at 13-colonies.com Mon Mar 1 03:21:40 2004 From: tim at 13-colonies.com (Tim Cronin) Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:21:40 -0600 Subject: libxml2 errors Message-ID: <71FD63241A2DD511AFED00010236A4B35FC56E@LIVAUDAIS> -----Original Message----- From: Tim Cronin To: 'fedora-test-list at redhat.com' Sent: 2/29/04 8:37 PM Subject: libxml2 errors i tied to update from core 1 to test 1.90 and I got the following failures with yum. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? import yummain File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 30, in ? import yumcomps File "/usr/share/yum/yumcomps.py", line 4, in ? import comps File "/usr/share/yum/comps.py", line 5, in ? import libxml2 ImportError: No module named libxml2 The libxml2-python-2.6.6-3 and libxml2-2.6.6-3 rpms are installed. i found the module at [root at fedora root]# find / -name libxml2.py -print /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/libxml2.py I added the path to PYTHONPATH then I get the following error. [root at fedora root]# yum /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/libxml2.py:1: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module libxml2mod: This Python has API version 1012, module lib xml2mod has version 1011. import libxml2mod From mutk at iprimus.com.au Mon Mar 1 03:36:27 2004 From: mutk at iprimus.com.au (Michael Kearey) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 13:36:27 +1000 Subject: VMWARE ethernet + sound In-Reply-To: <1077987785.11285.4.camel@deebo> References: <000901c3fdb2$707556d0$6401a8c0@idiot> <000a01c3fdbb$51473a40$6401a8c0@idiot> <1077987785.11285.4.camel@deebo> Message-ID: <4042AFBB.8020707@iprimus.com.au> Sean Hogston wrote: Snip> > I have the same problem with the network not comming up. Try this, > switch to root in a console and type dhclient > That should make it try again and pull an ip address. It is a pain in > the ass but it works for me everytime. > Sean > > > > Add this to your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethx : check_link_down() { return 1; } I have already sent a message to this thread a while ago. Must have gone to no-where ladn.. Cheers, Michael From stevewa at spiritone.com Mon Mar 1 03:59:24 2004 From: stevewa at spiritone.com (Steve Ward) Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:59:24 -0800 Subject: Graphical Greeter -- Security gripe Message-ID: <4042B51C.7020005@spiritone.com> I noticed that the graphical login screen now displays the last successful login for the username entered _before_ the password is entered. This is a security issue because it tells a potential cracker that they have found a valid login. From gleblanc at linuxweasel.com Mon Mar 1 04:15:53 2004 From: gleblanc at linuxweasel.com (Gregory Leblanc) Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:15:53 -0800 Subject: Latest yum excludes for rawhide In-Reply-To: <1077982423.3169.2.camel@family> References: <1077982423.3169.2.camel@family> Message-ID: <1078114553.4916.0.camel@glaptop> Or the somewhat shorter yum --exclude=gstreamer* --exclude=sound-juicer update Greg On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 07:33, Sandy Pond wrote: > yum --exclude=gstreamer \ > --exclude=gstreamer-plugins \ > --exclude=gstreamer-tools \ > --exclude=sound-juicer \ > update > From lars at oddbit.com Mon Mar 1 04:22:35 2004 From: lars at oddbit.com (Lars Kellogg-Stedman) Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:22:35 -0500 Subject: Kickstart doesn't? In-Reply-To: <1078024844.7708.2.camel@edoras.local.net> References: <403FEA2F.6010800@oddbit.com> <1078024844.7708.2.camel@edoras.local.net> Message-ID: <1114C9F8-6B38-11D8-B40B-000393B61F70@oddbit.com> >> I'm netbooting into the Fedora (test 1.90) installer, and the >> installer >> is having a hard time aquiring a lease from my DHCP server (ISC DHCP > With test1, add selinux=0 to your boot command line (this was put in > the > That makes my life *so* much easier. Thanks! -- Lars From bartk at clara.co.uk Mon Mar 1 04:58:46 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 04:58:46 +0000 Subject: Evolution install problem and Mozilla+Thunderbird prob Message-ID: <4042C306.2080208@clara.co.uk> First I did not install evolution during clean install. Now I have the machine running up to date devel tree . When I try to install evolution via yum it comes back with that dependency prob: > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Base > Server: Fedora Supplemental Packages (Stable) > Server: Fedora Supplemental Packages (Testing) > Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) > Server: Fedora Core 1 NewRPMS.sunsite.dk > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Released Updates > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package evolution needs libsoup-2.0.so.0, this is not available. is there anything I can do to solve this?? and since we are on the subject where is jeremy's ftp site for 1.5.x ?? Second thing I run thunderbird 0.5 as an e-mail client and stock Mozilla . If I start thunderbird first and then mozilla , mozilla refuses to start with an error displaing in thunderbird window : The file /content/navigator.xul cannot be found. Please check the location and try again. killing thunderbird-bin makes the problem desapear. Is it something I should inform Mozilla folks about or is it on fedora side?? TIA -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From aoliva at redhat.com Mon Mar 1 06:12:08 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 01 Mar 2004 03:12:08 -0300 Subject: NFS fails due to remove_locks_posix in kernel 2.6.3-1.116 In-Reply-To: <20040228222023.GA21417@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040228222023.GA21417@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: On Feb 28, 2004, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > If bugzilla'd this, but the latest kernel build won't run the current > NFSds due to a missing kernel symbol in the NFS modules. FWIW, this is already fixed in 2.6.4-rc1-bk1. I suppose davej is going to base his next build on that or something newer. -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Happy GNU Year! oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer From jbinpg at shaw.ca Mon Mar 1 06:21:45 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:21:45 -0800 Subject: Failed dependencies libgtop In-Reply-To: <200402281200.35356.czar@czarc.net> References: <200402281200.35356.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040301062145.GB19739@shaw.ca> On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 12:00:35PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > On Friday 27 February 2004 20:50, Efthym wrote: > > # yum update > > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > > Finding updated packages > > Downloading needed headers > > Resolving dependencies > > .Package gnome-applets needs libgtop-2.0.so.1, this is not available. > > Package gnome-applets needs libgtop_common-2.0.so.1, this is not available. > > Package gnome-applets needs libgtop_sysdeps-2.0.so.1, this is not > > available. > > > > # rpm -qa |grep libgtop > > libgtop2-2.5.0-2 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117088 > > Folks ... you need to check bugzilla for problems and add a report if you do > not find a report. Correct, Gene. Thanks for the reminder. I tried to pull down the latest changes today but yum died with about 7 or 8 of the above type of "not available" bad dependency warnings, mostly in gstreamer. Rather than fight it out, I'll just wait for the Mar 12 drop. I can't afford the time of an all-day download right now, even on a cable modem. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From pmatilai at welho.com Mon Mar 1 06:42:38 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:42:38 +0200 (EET) Subject: Apt-get downloading packages In-Reply-To: <4040B6DC.7010004@comcast.net> References: <4040B6DC.7010004@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 28 Feb 2004, jim tate wrote: > Fedora core Test1. > Apt-get upgrade , downdloaded a number of RPM packages from > freshrpms.us.net/development and put them in the /var/cache/apt/archive > and they are later versions than installed . Why can't I rpm -Uvh *.rpm > those packages? Apt-get comes back with something about "Unsigned > /var/cache/apt/archive (for all the packages) what gives, Am I of the > understanding that you just can't upgrade Fedora Test1 core? Well the packages from development are not GPG-signed like it says and the fedora.us apt is configured by default to disallow installing unsigned packages and packages with unknown signature. Run with "-o rpm::gpg-check=false" to temporarily disable, or change the configuration permanently in apt.conf since the packages from development aren't going to be signed in future either, probably. And yes you can install the stuff with just rpm -Uvh as well. - Panu - From levinfritz at mediales.net Mon Mar 1 07:05:05 2004 From: levinfritz at mediales.net (Levin Fritz) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:05:05 +0100 Subject: kernel 2.6 and sata Message-ID: <20040301080505.05e514b8.levinfritz@mediales.net> Hi all, I installed the current Fedora development kernel yesterday and tried to boot it, but when it tries to use the hard disk it gets really slow and spits out a lot of "lost interrupt" messages. The problem seems to be the onboard VIA SATA controller. With recent 2.4 kernels (I'm running 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl right now) the same hardware works just fine. I tried the kernel-2.6.3-1.116 rpm and a 2.6.4-rc1 kernel I compiled myself; the 2.6.4-rc1 one had the exact same problem. I have a Pentium IV with onboard VIA ATA/SATA controller, an ATAPI CD/DVD drive connected with parallel ATA and a Seagate Barracuda harddisk connected with SATA. I appended (part of) the output of lscpi and the messages I got from the kernel while booting at the end of this email. Tell me if you need more information. Since my hardware works fine with kernel 2.4.22, that points to a bug in the 2.6 kernel, right? Does anyone know how to fix this or who I should be asking about it? Thanks in advance for your help, Levin Here's what lspci -vv knows about the ata controller(s): 00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3149 (rev 80) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO]) Subsystem: FIRST INTERNATIONAL Computer Inc: Unknown device 921f Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- hde: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x24 hde: DMA interrupt recovery hde: lost interrupt hde5<4>hde: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x24 hde: DMA interrupt recovery hde6<4>hde: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x24 -- gets faster again -- -- snip -- -- gets really slow again -- hde: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x24 hde: DMA interrupt recovery hde: lost interrupt It keeps printing those last 3 lines while while it tries to mount the root fs; I eventually gave up and rebooted. I had to copy theses messages to paper first, so there might be a typo here and there. From reader at newsguy.com Mon Mar 1 07:50:20 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 01:50:20 -0600 Subject: set geometry of kedit Message-ID: This may be a general question about all kde menu items but I see no way to adjust the geometry of kedit. Rigth/left click on the menu item just brings it up. Using menu editor I see a place to set the command line but after looking at the kde help brower on kedit... I didn't see talk of geometry settings. The (starndard for older linux apps) `-geometry' doesn't do it. Seems to have no effect at all like this: kedit -geometry 90x120& Still starts in too small a terminal. From dennis at ausil.us Mon Mar 1 07:52:46 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:52:46 +1000 Subject: kernel 2.6 and sata In-Reply-To: <20040301080505.05e514b8.levinfritz@mediales.net> References: <20040301080505.05e514b8.levinfritz@mediales.net> Message-ID: <200403011752.51276.dennis@ausil.us> On Monday 01 March 2004 5:05 pm, Levin Fritz wrote: > Hi all, > root fs; I eventually gave up and rebooted. > I had to copy theses messages to paper first, so there might be a typo > here and there. I had the same problem with Aopen board with a via SATA chipset. i updated the bios which included a sata bios update and had no luck i returned the MOBO got another one since it was a week old. i upgraded the bios in the new one and havent ahd a problem since. i cant say for certen if its hardware or not but the 2.6.1 kernel that fc2 test 1 comes with is ok i cant use the 2.6.3 kernels as im being told that there is no psaux device cant load the agpart module but thats another story. and since its a new system i havent trued FC1 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From reader at newsguy.com Mon Mar 1 07:59:38 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 01:59:38 -0600 Subject: build a kernel howto ( I want samba) Message-ID: I've never spent much time building kernels. Never seemed to need stuff that wasn't in them. What little I did know about the build has long since evaporated and I suspect would be somewhat dated now anyway. So where to look for a `step by step' applicable to current kernels? I've had a enough of `cifs' troubles and want to re-enable smbfs. With cifs, I can mount but not write. Seemingly it would be a windows issue but I've set the shares for `everyone' and not passworded them. I'm mounting as `administrator' anyway so should have the concommitant permissions ... you'd think. But then again I'm not particularly conversant in windows-xp way of doing things. I was told the upstream cifs people would be `very' resonsive to questions about cifs troubles. But I've found that not to be true at all. I got an answer back, then pursued further questioning and haven't gotten another response for more than a week. To Dave J., I'm wondering what it is about cifs that is supposed to be better or more advanced. It claims to be the advanced ancestor of smbfs. From gauret at free.fr Mon Mar 1 09:31:50 2004 From: gauret at free.fr (Aurelien Bompard) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:31:50 +0100 Subject: set geometry of kedit References: Message-ID: > The (starndard for older linux apps) `-geometry' doesn't do it. Seems to > have no effect at all like this: kedit -geometry 90x120& "kedit --help-kde" gives you the solution. It's "--geometry" (with two dashes) You might want to look at kstart also. I've discovered this recently, and it's pretty useful. "kstart --help" :-) Bye Aur?lien -- http://gauret.free.fr ~~~~ Jabber : gauret at amessage.info "Quand on pense qu'il suffirait que les gens n'ach?tent pas pour que ?a ne se vende plus ! " -- Coluche, 1978 From reader at newsguy.com Mon Mar 1 09:47:14 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 03:47:14 -0600 Subject: Heres a dumb one - where does intitrd `img' come from Message-ID: Where does the /boot/initrd*.img come from. I never thought to much about that file other than seeing it in lilo or grub. rpm -qf doesn't know about it. Its built during a kernel install I think but just now having built a kernel (not yet installed) I don't find that under the `build' directory. There is 1012MB of data there though... yikes. Is that normal? From reader at newsguy.com Mon Mar 1 09:53:19 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 03:53:19 -0600 Subject: set geometry of kedit In-Reply-To: (Aurelien Bompard's message of "Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:31:50 +0100") References: Message-ID: Aurelien Bompard writes: >> The (starndard for older linux apps) `-geometry' doesn't do it. Seems to >> have no effect at all like this: kedit -geometry 90x120& > > "kedit --help-kde" gives you the solution. It's "--geometry" (with two > dashes) > You might want to look at kstart also. I've discovered this recently, and > it's pretty useful. "kstart --help" :-) kedit --geometry 85x30 does nothing whatever. Without showing syntax the help command is pretty useless. At least the geometry listing. From buxman at telia.com Mon Mar 1 09:55:46 2004 From: buxman at telia.com (Alexander Bussman) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:55:46 +0100 Subject: Floppy Message-ID: <200403011055.46525.buxman@telia.com> Hello! This may be a bit off topic but I'm wondering what program it's that trying to mount my floppy drive from time to time. I have disabled autorun and fam (just to be sure) so now I don't know what it is. It's pretty irretating... Sure I could just disable/remove my floppy drive since I never use it but I don't wanna for some strange reason. But anyway, could anyone tell me how I can fix that (I don't want that behaviour)? // Alexander Bussman From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 1 10:55:15 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 05:55:15 -0500 Subject: using latest rawhide as snapshot Message-ID: <200403010555.15216.czar@czarc.net> With the latest slip for the next full snapshot (FC2-Test2), I started thinking about creating my own snapshot from rawhide (development). This interest was intensified when I noticed that a lot of new packages where in rawhide that where not in FC2-test1. So on Saturday (28 Feb) I grabbed a copy of Fedora/base/*, Fedora/RPMS/* and bott.iso defom development and attempted an nfs everything install. Everything proceeded well until I got to the actual install/ That is, system configuration, package selection, etc. went OK but the install died when it actually tried to install the packages. On my first attempt, it appeared to die due to some selinux configuration issue. On my second attempt booting with selinux=0, it also does but there was no apparent reason. My download cost does not bother me (remarkable what a 3Mbps cable modem plus the right mirror site can do). However, I would prefer not to waste the bandwidth trying to do this daily. Therefore, if one of you Red Hat developers who is knowledgable would mention when the daily snapshot is particularly installable, it would be appreciated. -- Gene From Axel.Thimm at physik.fu-berlin.de Mon Mar 1 10:56:17 2004 From: Axel.Thimm at physik.fu-berlin.de (Axel Thimm) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:56:17 +0100 Subject: Stability classes (was: Testing test releases: do [ESC d]not update) In-Reply-To: <1077940624.3206.48.camel@family> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077891758.2297.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1077894934.3073.32.camel@family> <20040228005608.GA9792@neu.nirvana> <1077940624.3206.48.camel@family> Message-ID: <20040301105617.GG18445@neu.nirvana> On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 10:57:04PM -0500, Sandy Pond wrote: > On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 01:56 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 10:15:34AM -0500, Sandy Pond wrote: > > > > > > Doing as you suggest would severely cripple the testing/bug reporting/ > > > fixing process by adding more internal loops. > > > > You mean tagging packages as stable or less stable? I haven't > > experienced slowing down or waste of developer time with stability > > classification, on the contrary. Users can tune their system to their > > liking and I can push out packages faster. Much like the new testing > > updates FC1 introduced. > > I do very much appreciate your contributions as well as the other third > party repos. But Redhat already has three levels in FC1. I see base packages as "shipped" on the release day and updates as the same stability class. updates/testing is the new stability class. > The FC2 test1 snapshot is somewhat stable, as probably the FC2 test2 > snapshot will be. Now some people want to add more development > loops to the development channel. rawhide/development is just fine as it is, and test releases should not have updates. While currently there are statements that say updates for test releases are found in rawhide/development, this is a rephrasing of "No updates for test releases, but you can jump onto rawhide, while it is still timely close to the test release". IMO bug reports and discussion about non-updated test releases belong to "test" and such of "updated test releases, aka rawhide" belong to "devel" entities (which is what I wanted to say at the beginning of this thread and was partly misinterpreted as a request for update channels for test releases). It's perfectly alright for the development model. Test releases are rawhide snapshots which have been stabilized more than the usual rawhide to allow for distribution and testing of a special development environment. That's all. There are benefits for the developing from both bug reports from non-updated test releases, as well as from rawhide trackers. If the ratio becomes bad to either direction, I guess there will be actions to make the other side of the scale more attractive. Another question raised is suitability of rawhide for wider testing, e.g. a better stability handling. One would have to think about offering stability segmentations in rawhide (something like rawhide-testing vs rawhide-experimental, new/updated packages entering the latter and being moved to the former after some given time). No waste of resources other than the initial setup, and could offer benefits, as more users would be willing to track the time-delayed and somewhat tested rawhide-testing repo. Currently I believe there isn't really a demand/need from the developers' POV for the above solution (and their POV is the important one for beta/devel stuff), but maybe in the future this may change and be reviewed if increasing the testing userbase becomes an issue. > I say let's leave it alone and reserve the development channel as a > streamline for quickly pushing new packages, finding bugs and > getting them fixed as quick as possible. Frankly, I'm finding > rawhide much stabler than in the past when I've played with it. > > I think if you need a stable machine use FC1 (Jeez ... I got one machine > that still has RH8 on it that I got to get to) ... if you need a > testing/development machine then use FC2. Did we disagree? ;) -- Axel.Thimm at physik.fu-berlin.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From twaugh at redhat.com Mon Mar 1 11:13:44 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:13:44 +0000 Subject: coreutils and util-linux In-Reply-To: <20040301105743.GR6654@redhat.com> References: <200402280619.02002.czar@czarc.net> <20040301105743.GR6654@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040301111344.GU6654@redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 10:57:43AM +0000, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 06:19:02AM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > > To get around this, you need to manually download the updated > > util-linux-2.12-4 package (and the coreutils-5.2.0-8 package if you > > do not have it) and then use rpm -Uvh --force util... coreutils... > > There is no reason to need '--force'. Oh, didn't see the 'util...' in the command-line. Well, you can use '--oldpackage' for util-linux and the freshen coreutils as normal. 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I knew that I needed to install both the updated coreutils and updated unil-linux packages because /usr/bin/kill switched packages and redhat-lsb requires /usr/bin/kill. Therefore I first tried rpm -Uvh util-linux-2.12-4.i386.rpm coreutils-5.2.0-8.is86.rpm but this did not work because rpm considered 2.12pre-3 to be "newer". That is when I tried force. I would need to do a fresh install to recreate the situation at this point but I will do that if necessary to prove this point. I was quite annoyed by the 2.12pre-3 situation since I had been had been trying for a couple days to get coreutils installed and up2date never "saw" the 2.12-4 util-linux package as being the newer package. I first thought that it was only up2date but then came to realize that it was rpm also that considered the 2.12pre-3 package as newer. -- Gene From twaugh at redhat.com Mon Mar 1 11:26:16 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:26:16 +0000 Subject: coreutils and util-linux In-Reply-To: <200403010621.45612.czar@czarc.net> References: <200402280619.02002.czar@czarc.net> <20040301105743.GR6654@redhat.com> <200403010621.45612.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040301112616.GV6654@redhat.com> FWIW, I use this script (run it in a directory of available RPMs) to see which version-releases differ to what's installed. #!/bin/bash echo -e "Installed\\r\\t\\t\\t\\t\\tAvailable" echo -e "---------\\r\\t\\t\\t\\t\\t---------" for pkg in $(rpm -qa | sort) do pkgname=$(echo $pkg | sed -e 's/^\(.*\)-[^-]\+-[^-]\+$/\1/') qpkgname=$(echo $pkgname | sed -e 's/+/\\+/g') file=$(ls -t1 ${pkgname}-*-*.*.rpm 2>/dev/null | grep "^${qpkgname}-[^-]\+-[^-]\+\.\(i386\|noarch\)" | head -n 1) file=${file%.*.rpm} [ -n "${file}" ] && [ "${pkg}" != "${file}" ] && \ echo -e "${pkg}\\r\\t\\t\\t\\t\\t${file}" done Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 1 11:37:36 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:37:36 +0100 Subject: coreutils and util-linux In-Reply-To: <200403010621.45612.czar@czarc.net> References: <200402280619.02002.czar@czarc.net> <20040301105743.GR6654@redhat.com> <200403010621.45612.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <40432080.20107@gmx.de> Gene C. wrote: >2.12-4.i386.rpm 2.12pre-3 to be "newer". > > 2.12-4 < 2.12a-3 < 2.12p-3 < 2.12.pre-3 ?? lftp download.fedora.redhat.com:/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/SRPMS> ls *pre* -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 1110935 Feb 15 12:45 busybox-1.00.pre5-3.src. rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 12112644 Feb 19 10:18 gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.src.rp m -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 58128 Feb 17 05:34 ncompress-4.2.4-35.src.r pm -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 117731 Feb 13 22:33 perl-Compress-Zlib-1.33- 1.src.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 363118 Feb 16 14:23 prelink-0.3.0-21.src.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 1961354 Feb 17 08:50 wordtrans-1.1pre13-3.src .rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 1813548 Feb 17 08:52 xcin-2.5.3.pre3-21.src.r -- shrek-m From jkt at redhat.com Mon Mar 1 12:26:47 2004 From: jkt at redhat.com (Jay Turner) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 07:26:47 -0500 Subject: Heres a dumb one - where does intitrd `img' come from In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040301122647.GD10861@redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:47:14AM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > Where does the /boot/initrd*.img come from. > > I never thought to much about that file other than seeing it in lilo > or grub. > > rpm -qf doesn't know about it. Its built during a kernel install I > think but just now having built a kernel (not yet installed) I don't > find that under the `build' directory. > > There is 1012MB of data there though... yikes. Is that normal? The initrd image is built as part of the kernel installation process. There's a postinstallation script which calls /sbin/new-kernel-pkg which takes care of creating the initrd image and modifying the boot loader. As for their being 1G of stuff in your BUILD directory, it really just depends on what you've been building. You might want to check in there and see where all of the space is getting utilized and prune as needed, but if you've been building lots of packages recently, then having that much space utilized isn't that strange. - jkt -- --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--* Jay Turner, QA Technical Lead jkt at redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. - Albert Einstein From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Mar 1 12:30:30 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:30:30 -1000 Subject: GDM is broken does not allow user to XDPM into another machine if in the graphical display greeter. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40432CE6.2060501@redhat.com> Peter A. Banks wrote: > Even if this feature is enabled in gdmconfig. > Regards > pab > > > Which specific version of gdm? FC1 or FC1.90? Warren From aoliva at redhat.com Mon Mar 1 12:38:09 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 01 Mar 2004 09:38:09 -0300 Subject: Heres a dumb one - where does intitrd `img' come from In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 1, 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Where does the /boot/initrd*.img come from. mkinitrd creates it. > There is 1012MB of data there though... yikes. Is that normal? 1GiB? Certainly not. 1012KiB (~ 1 MiB) would be something more reasonable, depending on the number of modules and start-up programs that are necessary to mount the root filesystem and pivot to it. -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Happy GNU Year! oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer From erik at cpsc.ucalgary.ca Mon Mar 1 13:23:06 2004 From: erik at cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Erik Williamson) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 06:23:06 -0700 Subject: ldconfig errors when doing a 'yum update' Message-ID: <4043393A.8030906@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Hi All, On a box upgraded from FC1 -> FC2 test 1 (via yum), then updated daily with the development tree: I'm getting the following when updating: /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libboost_signals-gcc-1_31.so.1.31.0 is not a symbolic link I get lots of these, mentioning different libraries. System is running just fine though. While the error makes sense - Is there something I'm missing? Something that I need to do? Looks like the mailing list search is broken, please forgive if this has already been answered. Thanks! e. -- e r i k w i l l i a m s o n erik at cpsc.ucalgary.ca system admin . department of computer science . university of calgary From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Mon Mar 1 13:40:42 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 08:40:42 -0500 Subject: Floppy In-Reply-To: <200403011055.46525.buxman@telia.com> References: <200403011055.46525.buxman@telia.com> Message-ID: <1078148442.3046.9.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 10:55 +0100, Alexander Bussman wrote: > Hello! > This may be a bit off topic but I'm wondering what program it's that trying to > mount my floppy drive from time to time. > I have disabled autorun and fam (just to be sure) so now I don't know what it > is. It's pretty irretating... Sure I could just disable/remove my floppy > drive since I never use it but I don't wanna for some strange reason. > But anyway, could anyone tell me how I can fix that (I don't want that > behaviour)? > > // Alexander Bussman Do you have a usb memory card reader (camera cards, mp3 cards, etc) attached to your computer? If so what model, type? Does it still do it when you disconnect the usb card reader? Check /var/log/messages for periodic messages (menu System Tools->System Logs then pick System Log). From reader at newsguy.com Mon Mar 1 13:41:23 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 07:41:23 -0600 Subject: Heres a dumb one - where does intitrd `img' come from In-Reply-To: <20040301122647.GD10861@redhat.com> (Jay Turner's message of "Mon, 1 Mar 2004 07:26:47 -0500") References: <20040301122647.GD10861@redhat.com> Message-ID: Jay Turner writes: >> There is 1012MB of data there though... yikes. Is that normal? > > The initrd image is built as part of the kernel installation process. > There's a postinstallation script which calls /sbin/new-kernel-pkg which > takes care of creating the initrd image and modifying the boot loader. > > As for their being 1G of stuff in your BUILD directory, it really just > depends on what you've been building. You might want to check in there and > see where all of the space is getting utilized and prune as needed, but if > you've been building lots of packages recently, then having that much space > utilized isn't that strange. Alexandre Oliva writes: >> Where does the /boot/initrd*.img come from. > > mkinitrd creates it. > >> There is 1012MB of data there though... yikes. Is that normal? > > 1GiB? Certainly not. 1012KiB (~ 1 MiB) would be something more > reasonable, depending on the number of modules and start-up programs > that are necessary to mount the root filesystem and pivot to it. OK, thanks for the tips on initrd* The 1012MB I mentioned is from building 1 single package. The *116 kernel. I ran: make O=/usr/local/build/kernel oldconfig make O=/usr/local/build/kernel xconfig make O=/usr/local/build/kernel bzImage make O=/usr/local/build/kernel modules and now there is 1012MB (one GB (+/-)) in that build directory. cd $BUILD [root] # du -sh `ls` 816K System.map 30M arch 5.4M crypto 389M drivers 152M fs 9.2M include 4.0K include2 1.8M init 1.2M ipc 8.0M kernel 3.7M lib 7.4M mm 208M net 1.4M scripts 1.3M security 84M sound 48K usr 36M vmlinux Seems a little excessive eh? From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 1 14:12:13 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 15:12:13 +0100 Subject: Heres a dumb one - where does intitrd `img' come from In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <404344BD.9090209@gmx.de> Alexandre Oliva wrote: >On Mar 1, 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > >>Where does the /boot/initrd*.img come from. >> >> >mkinitrd creates it. > >>There is 1012MB of data there though... yikes. Is that normal? >> >> >1GiB? Certainly not. 1012KiB (~ 1 MiB) would be something more >reasonable, depending on the number of modules and start-up programs >that are necessary to mount the root filesystem and pivot to it. > what say ? du -h /boo/initrd* -- shrek-m From buxman at telia.com Mon Mar 1 14:05:31 2004 From: buxman at telia.com (Alexander Bussman) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:05:31 +0100 Subject: Floppy In-Reply-To: <1078148442.3046.9.camel@family> References: <200403011055.46525.buxman@telia.com> <1078148442.3046.9.camel@family> Message-ID: <200403011505.31577.buxman@telia.com> On Monday 01 March 2004 14.40, Sandy Pond wrote: > Do you have a usb memory card reader (camera cards, mp3 cards, etc) > attached to your computer? If so what model, type? Does it still do it > when you disconnect the usb card reader? Check /var/log/messages for > periodic messages (menu System Tools->System Logs then pick System Log). No I don't have any usb memory card reader. I have two usb devices attached though (one mouse and one gamepad). So is this problem usb related? The gamepad is disconnecting and reattaching from time to time, for a unknown reason. This is from /var/log/messages (regarding the gamepad): Mar 1 14:39:24 zstudios kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 7 Mar 1 14:39:25 zstudios kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: ctrl urb status -32 received Mar 1 14:39:25 zstudios kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Gamepad [Gravis GamePad Pro USB ] on usb-0000:00:11.2-2 // Alexander Bussman From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Mon Mar 1 14:36:39 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:36:39 +0200 Subject: Floppy In-Reply-To: <200403011505.31577.buxman@telia.com> References: <200403011055.46525.buxman@telia.com> <1078148442.3046.9.camel@family> <200403011505.31577.buxman@telia.com> Message-ID: <200403011636.40064.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Alexander Bussman kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika maanantai, 1. maaliskuuta 2004 16:05): > No I don't have any usb memory card reader. > I have two usb devices attached though (one mouse and one > gamepad). So is this problem usb related? > The gamepad is disconnecting and reattaching from time to > time, for a unknown reason. Hotplug runs the updfstab command when an USB device disconnects, this causes the floppy disc access. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From ramanan54 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 1 15:28:22 2004 From: ramanan54 at hotmail.com (VENKAT RAMANAN) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:58:22 +0530 Subject: kernel 2.6.3 & sound Message-ID: Iam not able to open the volume control option in Fedora core 2 test 1. it says gst-mixer not found. What should I do? Ramanan _________________________________________________________________ Oscar fever is on! It's Hollywood's biggest party. http://server1.msn.co.in/sp04/oscars/index.asp Get all the dope here. From jim at rossberry.com Mon Mar 1 15:46:48 2004 From: jim at rossberry.com (Jim Wildman) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:46:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Heres a dumb one - where does intitrd `img' come from In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Where does the /boot/initrd*.img come from. > > I never thought to much about that file other than seeing it in lilo > or grub. > > rpm -qf doesn't know about it. Its built during a kernel install I > think but just now having built a kernel (not yet installed) I don't > find that under the `build' directory. > > There is 1012MB of data there though... yikes. Is that normal? > man mkinitrd It is run as part of the kernel installation process. rpm -q --scripts kernel | grep mkinitrd ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE jim at rossberry.com http://www.rossberry.com From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Mon Mar 1 15:48:08 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:48:08 -0500 Subject: Stability classes (was: Testing test releases: do [ESC d]not update) In-Reply-To: <20040301105617.GG18445@neu.nirvana> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077891758.2297.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1077894934.3073.32.camel@family> <20040228005608.GA9792@neu.nirvana> <1077940624.3206.48.camel@family> <20040301105617.GG18445@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <1078156088.4146.61.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 11:56 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: ..snip.. > Another question raised is suitability of rawhide for wider testing, > e.g. a better stability handling. One would have to think about > offering stability segmentations in rawhide (something like > rawhide-testing vs rawhide-experimental, new/updated packages entering > the latter and being moved to the former after some given time). No > waste of resources other than the initial setup, and could offer > benefits, as more users would be willing to track the time-delayed and > somewhat tested rawhide-testing repo. I think that a lot of the problems that I see from the testers POV on rawhide stem from; 1. Not getting a clean update to rawhide from FC1 (not recommended). 2. The slow default rawhide repo. 3. The stability of up2date/yum. 4. The pure volume of rawhide updates. 5. The non-syncing of the development mirrors. I don't think the main problem is rawhide package stability. In general I've found rawhide packages more stable than the original test1 release. I think that a lot of the problems from a developers POV is duplicate/ bad bug reporting and time management. More testers doesn't necessary translate into better testing. I'd prefer these issues be attacked head-on first. Unfortunately, you'll never fix the volume issue. Sometimes many packages need to be rebuilt only because of a dependency update, like a gcc update. And many times these large rebuilds can affect overlapping packages. I really don't see moving a package from one segment to another without a rebuild as all that common. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like stability segmentation of rawhide would be lead to having another development channel. A tanned-hide? And the big question is does this really hurt or help the developer? My thinking is attack the present known problems head-on first and give some more time for things to sort out. I don't think we disagree. I think we both want the developers needs put first and foremost so that we get to FC2 gold as fast as possible. From buxman at telia.com Mon Mar 1 15:49:27 2004 From: buxman at telia.com (Alexander Bussman) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:49:27 +0100 Subject: Floppy In-Reply-To: <200403011636.40064.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> References: <200403011055.46525.buxman@telia.com> <200403011505.31577.buxman@telia.com> <200403011636.40064.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <200403011649.27929.buxman@telia.com> On Monday 01 March 2004 15.36, Markku Kolkka wrote: > Hotplug runs the updfstab command when an USB device disconnects, > this causes the floppy disc access. > Okay, thanks a lot for the help! // Alexander Bussman From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Mon Mar 1 16:06:00 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:06:00 -0500 Subject: Floppy In-Reply-To: <200403011505.31577.buxman@telia.com> References: <200403011055.46525.buxman@telia.com> <1078148442.3046.9.camel@family> <200403011505.31577.buxman@telia.com> Message-ID: <1078157160.4146.67.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 15:05 +0100, Alexander Bussman wrote: > On Monday 01 March 2004 14.40, Sandy Pond wrote: > > Do you have a usb memory card reader (camera cards, mp3 cards, etc) > > attached to your computer? If so what model, type? Does it still do it > > when you disconnect the usb card reader? Check /var/log/messages for > > periodic messages (menu System Tools->System Logs then pick System Log). > > No I don't have any usb memory card reader. > I have two usb devices attached though (one mouse and one gamepad). > So is this problem usb related? > The gamepad is disconnecting and reattaching from time to time, for a unknown > reason. > > This is from /var/log/messages (regarding the gamepad): > Mar 1 14:39:24 zstudios kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 7 > Mar 1 14:39:25 zstudios kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: ctrl urb status > -32 received > Mar 1 14:39:25 zstudios kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Gamepad [Gravis GamePad > Pro USB ] on usb-0000:00:11.2-2 > Yep. I'd be curious what kind of errors you get if you go into your BIOS and disable the floppy controller (if you can ... different than selecting "none"). From almacha at altern.org Mon Mar 1 17:23:02 2004 From: almacha at altern.org (Almacha) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:23:02 +0100 Subject: [kde fcore2] Konquerorbookmarks and edit bookmarks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40437176.1070205@altern.org> When you are in the Bookmark Edit window, right-clight on the bookmark you want to edit and you will have "rename" and "edit URL". There are no "Properties" window. You have to use "rename" and "edit URL" which are the main parameters. Harry Putnam a ecrit : >I'm probably blind as a bat but I don't see a way to edit a bookmark >in Konqueror. There is the `edit bookmarks' on the bookmarks menu >but once there I don't see a way to actually edit an individual >bookmark other than change its name or delete cut copy, but no way to >change its characteristics or properties. > >Someone tell me I'm blind please but also provide the needed light :) > > > > From peter_banks at charter.net Mon Mar 1 17:40:29 2004 From: peter_banks at charter.net (Peter A. Banks) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:40:29 -0500 Subject: GDM is broken does not allow user to XDPM into another machine Message-ID: Message: 1 Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:30:30 -1000 From: Warren Togami To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: GDM is broken does not allow user to XDPM into another machine if in the graphical display greeter. Reply-To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Peter A. Banks wrote: > Even if this feature is enabled in gdmconfig. > Regards > pab > > > Which specific version of gdm? FC1 or FC1.90? Warren I am running version 2.5.90.1-1 gdm. On a daily upgraded test 1.90 test1. I just did a triple check. And the Options for XDPM login to other machines is not in the Bluecurve theme( I presume it in session Menu item) GDM is running. This was not a fresh install. IE. It has been through numerous version and rawhide upgrades for over a year. Maybe a newer Bluecurve theme is not overwriting an older one's files. Regards pab From reader at newsguy.com Mon Mar 1 17:55:58 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:55:58 -0600 Subject: [kde fcore2] Konquerorbookmarks and edit bookmarks In-Reply-To: <40437176.1070205@altern.org> (almacha@altern.org's message of "Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:23:02 +0100") References: <40437176.1070205@altern.org> Message-ID: Almacha writes: > When you are in the Bookmark Edit window, > right-clight on the bookmark you want to edit and you will have > "rename" and "edit URL". > There are no "Properties" window. > You have to use "rename" and "edit URL" which are the main parameters. > Ahh I see my blunder now. The option is not called `edit URL' but instead it is called `change URL' ... I just didn't realize it meant change as in `edit'. Thanks From David.Estacio at sycoleman.com Mon Mar 1 18:04:23 2004 From: David.Estacio at sycoleman.com (David.Estacio at sycoleman.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:04:23 -0600 Subject: Install Problem (system reboot) Message-ID: <2D098C134168C8489C52CBFB888FE9515812E7@HSV-MAIL.hsv.sycoleman.com> I downloaded, checked the MD5SUMs and burned CDs for the Core 2 Test 1 release. When attempting to install this software on my test machine, Toshiba laptop K6-2 366, 128M RAM (I know, I know, but its my test machine), I get to the initial screen (Fedora Core test) - install or upgrade in graphical mode press etc... I press enter and get the normal "loading VMLINUZ ........" and then I get the normal "loading initrd.img ....." it's at this point that it fails. What happens is the progress indicator starts across the screen and then the machine reboots. I have tried this same disk on other computers and the disk is not bad, I'm not sure what else to try. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I did try all the normal boot options though I don't believe it's making it far enough for any of those to matter. Thanks David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lars at oddbit.com Mon Mar 1 18:19:22 2004 From: lars at oddbit.com (Lars Kellogg-Stedman) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:19:22 -0500 Subject: No mount.cifs? (was Re: build a kernel howto) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Speaking of CIFS... There's a manpage for mount.cifs in the samba /usr/share/doc/... directory, but nothing installed in /usr/share/man. Nor is there a /sbin/mount.cifs. This is on a fedora test 1.90 system with samba-common, samba, and samba-client installed. Is this as broken as it seems, or am I missing something obvious? Thanks, -- Lars From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Mon Mar 1 18:58:18 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (sandy pond) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:58:18 -0700 Subject: build a kernel howto ( I want samba) Message-ID: <1078167498.c821d6fcsandy_pond@myrealbox.com> > So where to look for a `step by step' applicable to > current kernels? Here's a small script currently I use for rawhide (it's not very general); #!/bin/bash rm -rf /lib/modules/2.6.3-MyKernel cd /usr/src/linux && make clean && make mrproper && make clean && cp configs/kernel-2.6.3-i686.config .config && echo " Enable options save and exit " && make gconfig && sed --in-place 's/^EXTRAVERSION[[:space:]]*=.*$/EXTRAVERSION = -MyKernel/' Makefile && make clean && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install && make install || exit 1 rm -rf /boot/*2.6.3-MyKernel.old echo -e '\n<<<< BUILD OK >>>>\n' From reader at newsguy.com Mon Mar 1 19:05:17 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 13:05:17 -0600 Subject: No mount.cifs? (was Re: build a kernel howto) In-Reply-To: (Lars Kellogg-Stedman's message of "Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:19:22 -0500") References: Message-ID: Lars Kellogg-Stedman writes: > Speaking of CIFS... > > There's a manpage for mount.cifs in the samba > /usr/share/doc/... directory, but nothing installed in /usr/share/man. > Nor is there a /sbin/mount.cifs. This is on a fedora test 1.90 system > with samba-common, samba, and samba-client installed. You should have and /sbin/mount.cifs in 1.90... at least I do but I've upgraded some stuff to rawhide. Also a man mount.cifs From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 1 19:08:16 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:08:16 +0100 Subject: build a kernel howto ( I want samba) In-Reply-To: <1078167498.c821d6fcsandy_pond@myrealbox.com> References: <1078167498.c821d6fcsandy_pond@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <40438A20.8040706@gmx.de> sandy pond wrote: >>So where to look for a `step by step' applicable to >>current kernels? >> >> # vi /usr/src/linux-2.6*/README >Here's a small script currently I use for rawhide >(it's not very general) > > i could be wrong, afaik since 2.6.x you have only to type # make menuconfig or xconfig or what_you_prefer # make done check your grub.conf reboot -- shrek-m From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 1 19:11:01 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:11:01 +0100 Subject: No mount.cifs? (was Re: build a kernel howto) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40438AC5.30303@gmx.de> Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: > Speaking of CIFS... > > There's a manpage for mount.cifs in the samba /usr/share/doc/... > directory, but nothing installed in /usr/share/man. Nor is there a > /sbin/mount.cifs. This is on a fedora test 1.90 system with > samba-common, samba, and samba-client installed. > > Is this as broken as it seems, or am I missing something obvious? $ rpm -qa samba* check rawhide/development for samba-updates check the list-archives check bugzilla -- shrek-m From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 1 19:19:46 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:19:46 -0500 Subject: Graphical Greeter -- Security gripe In-Reply-To: <4042B51C.7020005@spiritone.com> References: <4042B51C.7020005@spiritone.com> Message-ID: <200403011419.46355.czar@czarc.net> On Sunday 29 February 2004 22:59, Steve Ward wrote: > I noticed that the graphical login screen now displays the last > successful login for the username entered _before_ the password is entered. > > This is a security issue because it tells a potential cracker that they > have found a valid login. I agree with your concerns and almost submitted a bugzilla report to at least document the concern. The problem is that this new "feature" is both a security plus and a security minus. It is part of gdm and can be configured off in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf for those who do not want it. >From the plus side, if a user notices that the last login date/time does not match what they remember, they can report it or take other appropriate actions. >From the minus side, it provides an attacker with the information that a valid userid has been entered before the user has been actually authenticated (before a valid password has been entered). Thus, they can now "just" attack the password rather than the combination of userid and password (they have a smaller search space). This new feature has been implemented in gdm. Ideally, it should not be implemented in gdm but instead be in the startup process as a popup (or whatever). Thus, only authenticated users would see the Last Login popup. Comments? -- Gene From reader at newsguy.com Mon Mar 1 19:20:50 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 13:20:50 -0600 Subject: kernel rebuild does'nt build actual kernel Message-ID: I'm probably in over my head but rebuilding this package: kernel-2.6.3-1.116.src.rpm Does not produce a regular kernel package. I only get: *RPMS/ kernel-debuginfo-2.6.3-1.116.i386.rpm kernel-source-2.6.3-1.116.i386.rpm kernel-doc-2.6.3-1.116.i386.rpm and *SRPMS/ kernel-2.6.3-1.116.src.rpm No `kernel-2.6.3-1.116.i386.rpm' Nothing in any other dir under RPMS Its the only kernel of that version under SRPMs for rawhide. From aespinoza at concretec.com.bo Mon Mar 1 19:20:14 2004 From: aespinoza at concretec.com.bo (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Antonio_Jos=E9_Espinoza_Palenque?=) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 15:20:14 -0400 Subject: about the ipsec stack Message-ID: <40438CEE.2030503@concretec.com.bo> About the new ipsec stack... I'm used freeswan for ipsec/x509 vpns and worked well, however, there is a new ipsec implementation in the kernel 2.6...and... I'd like to know if the current kernel ipsec stack is freeswan, was ported from some *nix or is a completely new unprobed implementation. I need to know it because I love linux but I want to be sure about the performance of the new ipsec stack. Grettings Antonio :) From davej at redhat.com Mon Mar 1 19:44:40 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 19:44:40 +0000 Subject: Install Problem (system reboot) In-Reply-To: <2D098C134168C8489C52CBFB888FE9515812E7@HSV-MAIL.hsv.sycoleman.com> References: <2D098C134168C8489C52CBFB888FE9515812E7@HSV-MAIL.hsv.sycoleman.com> Message-ID: <20040301194440.GA960@redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 12:04:23PM -0600, David.Estacio at sycoleman.com wrote: > I downloaded, checked the MD5SUMs and burned CDs for the Core 2 Test 1 > release. When attempting to install this software on my test machine, > Toshiba laptop K6-2 366, 128M RAM (I know, I know, but its my test machine), > I get to the initial screen (Fedora Core test) - install or upgrade in > graphical mode press etc... I press enter and get the normal > "loading VMLINUZ ........" and then I get the normal "loading initrd.img > ....." it's at this point that it fails. read the release notes. test1 won't work on anything < 686 due to a screw up on our part. This was unintentional, and will be fixed in test2. Dave From davej at redhat.com Mon Mar 1 19:45:40 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 19:45:40 +0000 Subject: about the ipsec stack In-Reply-To: <40438CEE.2030503@concretec.com.bo> References: <40438CEE.2030503@concretec.com.bo> Message-ID: <20040301194540.GB960@redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:20:14PM -0400, Antonio Jos? Espinoza Palenque wrote: > About the new ipsec stack... > > I'm used freeswan for ipsec/x509 vpns and worked well, however, there is > a new ipsec implementation in the kernel 2.6...and... I'd like to know > if the current kernel ipsec stack is freeswan, was ported from some *nix > or is a completely new unprobed implementation. It's a new implementation. Dave From jos at xos.nl Mon Mar 1 19:47:14 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:47:14 +0100 Subject: about the ipsec stack In-Reply-To: <40438CEE.2030503@concretec.com.bo>; from aespinoza@concretec.com.bo on Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:20:14PM -0400 References: <40438CEE.2030503@concretec.com.bo> Message-ID: <20040301204714.A3047@xos037.xos.nl> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:20:14PM -0400, Antonio Jos? Espinoza Palenque wrote: > I'm used freeswan for ipsec/x509 vpns and worked well, however, there is > a new ipsec implementation in the kernel 2.6...and... I'd like to know > if the current kernel ipsec stack is freeswan, was ported from some *nix > or is a completely new unprobed implementation. > > I need to know it because I love linux but I want to be sure about the > performance of the new ipsec stack. The 2.6 IPSEC stack is similar to the *BSD KAME IPSEC stack. And the Linux ipsec-tools is a port of the KAME tools. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 1 19:54:45 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:54:45 +0100 Subject: Install Problem (system reboot) In-Reply-To: <20040301194440.GA960@redhat.com> References: <2D098C134168C8489C52CBFB888FE9515812E7@HSV-MAIL.hsv.sycoleman.com> <20040301194440.GA960@redhat.com> Message-ID: <40439505.2020600@gmx.de> Dave Jones wrote: >On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 12:04:23PM -0600, David.Estacio at sycoleman.com wrote: > > I downloaded, checked the MD5SUMs and burned CDs for the Core 2 Test 1 > > release. When attempting to install this software on my test machine, > > Toshiba laptop K6-2 366, 128M RAM (I know, I know, but its my test machine), > > I get to the initial screen (Fedora Core test) - install or upgrade in > > graphical mode press etc... I press enter and get the normal > > "loading VMLINUZ ........" and then I get the normal "loading initrd.img > > ....." it's at this point that it fails. > > read the release notes. test1 won't work on anything < 686 >due to a screw up on our part. This was unintentional, and will >be fixed in test2. > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.90/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-x86-en Note Due to a mistake made at build-time, the ISO images for Fedora Core 1.90 Test 1 include support for i686-class processors only, meaning that it will not be possible to boot Anaconda on systems with Intel Pentium, older AMD, or VIA processors. Note that this problem affects the bootability of the ISO images only; it is possible to upgrade non-i686 systems by configuring yum or up2date to pull packages from rawhide. -- shrek-m From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Mon Mar 1 20:17:00 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (sandy pond) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 13:17:00 -0700 Subject: build a kernel howto ( I want samba) Message-ID: <1078172220.c853c39csandy_pond@myrealbox.com> >>Here's a small script currently I use for rawhide >>(it's not very general) >> >> > > i could be wrong, > afaik since 2.6.x you have only to type > > # make menuconfig or xconfig or what_you_prefer > # make > > done Well the script does a few additional things. Like I said ... it's not very general ... but it works and I use it for my special hardware :) From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Mar 1 20:44:42 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:44:42 +0000 Subject: cdrecord --scanbus shows just one thing Message-ID: <1078173881.2816.3.camel@T7.linux> Hi, cdrecord --scanbus is showing just my scanner. Has anything changed so that it doesn't show my CD and DVD records? Both my DVDRW and CDRWs are listed in grub.conf as being ide-cd Using the 2.6.3-1.116 kernel, selinux is off. TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Mar 1 20:45:37 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 15:45:37 -0500 Subject: Convert back to ext3? Message-ID: Somewhat OT, but just a quick question. I installed FC2-T1 (+all updates) onto reiser root. Now I found reiser doesn't support ACLs, so I'd like to switch back to ext3. I believe I can use FC2T1 as a rescue CD, mkext3fs, restore everthing from tar, then fix /etc/fstab (change reiser to ext3), and I'm done? Anything needed to be done with grub? From David.Estacio at sycoleman.com Mon Mar 1 21:24:45 2004 From: David.Estacio at sycoleman.com (David.Estacio at sycoleman.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:24:45 -0600 Subject: Install Problem (system reboot) Message-ID: <2D098C134168C8489C52CBFB888FE9515813EA@HSV-MAIL.hsv.sycoleman.com> Thanks for the information all, I should have checked the notes, but I didn't, obviously, and that's my bad. I'll wait tell the next version comes down the pipe. Thanks again David -----Original Message----- From: shrek-m at gmx.de [mailto:shrek-m at gmx.de] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 1:55 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Install Problem (system reboot) Dave Jones wrote: >On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 12:04:23PM -0600, David.Estacio at sycoleman.com wrote: > > I downloaded, checked the MD5SUMs and burned CDs for the Core 2 Test 1 > > release. When attempting to install this software on my test machine, > > Toshiba laptop K6-2 366, 128M RAM (I know, I know, but its my test machine), > > I get to the initial screen (Fedora Core test) - install or upgrade in > > graphical mode press etc... I press enter and get the normal > > "loading VMLINUZ ........" and then I get the normal "loading initrd.img > > ....." it's at this point that it fails. > > read the release notes. test1 won't work on anything < 686 >due to a screw up on our part. This was unintentional, and will >be fixed in test2. > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.90/i386/os/RE LEASE-NOTES-x86-en Note Due to a mistake made at build-time, the ISO images for Fedora Core 1.90 Test 1 include support for i686-class processors only, meaning that it will not be possible to boot Anaconda on systems with Intel Pentium, older AMD, or VIA processors. Note that this problem affects the bootability of the ISO images only; it is possible to upgrade non-i686 systems by configuring yum or up2date to pull packages from rawhide. -- shrek-m -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From tdiehl at rogueind.com Mon Mar 1 21:57:44 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: kernel rebuild does'nt build actual kernel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > I'm probably in over my head but rebuilding this package: > kernel-2.6.3-1.116.src.rpm > > Does not produce a regular kernel package. I only get: > > *RPMS/ > kernel-debuginfo-2.6.3-1.116.i386.rpm kernel-source-2.6.3-1.116.i386.rpm > kernel-doc-2.6.3-1.116.i386.rpm Yes it does. You just have to talk nice to it. :-) Try adding --target i686-redhat-linux to your command line. If you want to do the i386 and i686 stuff at the same time add both --target i686-redhat-linux and --target i386-redhat-linux on the command line. FWIW you can edit the spec file to turn off the debug, boot and other kernels you might not need. The stuff you need to edit is right at the top. > and > *SRPMS/ > kernel-2.6.3-1.116.src.rpm > > No `kernel-2.6.3-1.116.i386.rpm' > Nothing in any other dir under RPMS > > Its the only kernel of that version under SRPMs for rawhide. Yup!! That is the one you need. Disclaimer, I have not actually built a 2.6 kernel yet but that is what makes the 2.4 rpms build the stuff I need. I am assuming it is the same. If not I am sure someone will correct me. HTH, Tom From tfox at redhat.com Mon Mar 1 22:14:12 2004 From: tfox at redhat.com (Tammy Fox) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 17:14:12 -0500 Subject: cdrecord --scanbus shows just one thing In-Reply-To: <1078173881.2816.3.camel@T7.linux> References: <1078173881.2816.3.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1078179251.6101.303.camel@jadefox.rdu.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 15:44, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > cdrecord --scanbus is showing just my scanner. Has anything changed so > that it doesn't show my CD and DVD records? Both my DVDRW and CDRWs are > listed in grub.conf as being ide-cd > > Using the 2.6.3-1.116 kernel, selinux is off. > > TTFN > > Paul http://people.redhat.com/~arjanv/2.6/readme.txt ide-scsi is disabled in 2.6. If your burner is an IDE device, you need to specify it: cdrecord --dev=/dev/hdc or modify cdrecord.conf to save this setting. Tammy From reader at newsguy.com Tue Mar 2 01:11:11 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:11:11 -0600 Subject: kernel rebuild does'nt build actual kernel In-Reply-To: (Tom Diehl's message of "Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:44 -0500 (EST)") References: Message-ID: Tom Diehl writes: > Yes it does. You just have to talk nice to it. :-) > > Try adding --target i686-redhat-linux to your command line. If you want to do > the i386 and i686 stuff at the same time add both --target i686-redhat-linux > and --target i386-redhat-linux on the command line. Ahh yess, the old... `..talk nice to it..' gambit. hehe. A word or two about this ought to be in /usr/src/linux*/README. Also it seemed much easier to edit the appropriate config file from the *src* package by hand and then `rpmbuild -ba' instead of stepping thru a non-rpm build and install. At least once you told me about `talking nice'. From zachw at termdex.com Tue Mar 2 01:33:51 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:33:51 -0500 Subject: weird yum behavior Message-ID: <1078191231.2123.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> [root at localhost root]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Package rhythmbox needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.5, this is not available. Package rhythmbox needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. Package nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. Package gnome-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. Drat! OK... [root at localhost root]# yum --help Usage: yum [options] Options: -c [config file] - specify the config file to use -e [error level] - set the error logging level -d [debug level] - set the debugging level -y answer yes to all questions -t be tolerant about errors in package commands -R [time in minutes] - set the max amount of time to randomly run in. -C run from cache only - do not update the cache --installroot=[path] - set the install root (default '/') --version - output the version of yum --exclude=some_pkg_name - packagename to exclude - you can use this more than once --download-only - only download packages - do not run the transaction -h, --help this screen [root at localhost root]# yum update --exclude=rhythmbox -- exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Cannot find any package matching --exclude=rhythmbox available to be updated. Cannot find any package matching --exclude=nautilus-media available to be updated. Cannot find any package matching --exclude=gnome-media available to be updated. No actions to take WTF! Usage tells me I can exclude packages with --exclude=some_pkg_name but that switch seems to be unknown to yum. Zach From erik at cpsc.ucalgary.ca Tue Mar 2 02:15:01 2004 From: erik at cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Erik Williamson) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:15:01 -0700 Subject: weird yum behavior In-Reply-To: <1078191231.2123.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078191231.2123.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4043EE25.40706@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> I'm pretty sure that you have to say 'update' last: yum --exclude=rhythmbox \ --exclude=nautilus-media \ --exclude=gnome-media \ update should work. Zach Wilkinson wrote: > [root at localhost root]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) > from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .Package rhythmbox needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.5, this is not available. > Package rhythmbox needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. > Package nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not > available. > Package gnome-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. > > > Drat! OK... > > [root at localhost root]# yum --help > > Usage: yum [options] list | > clean | provides | search | check-update | groupinstall | > groupupdate | > grouplist > > > Options: > -c [config file] - specify the config file to use > -e [error level] - set the error logging level > -d [debug level] - set the debugging level > -y answer yes to all questions > -t be tolerant about errors in package commands > -R [time in minutes] - set the max amount of time to randomly > run in. > -C run from cache only - do not update the cache > --installroot=[path] - set the install root (default '/') > --version - output the version of yum > --exclude=some_pkg_name - packagename to exclude - you can use > this more than once > --download-only - only download packages - do not run the > transaction > -h, --help this screen > > [root at localhost root]# yum update --exclude=rhythmbox -- > exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Cannot find any package matching --exclude=rhythmbox available to be > updated. > Cannot find any package matching --exclude=nautilus-media available to > be updated. > Cannot find any package matching --exclude=gnome-media available to be > updated. > No actions to take > > WTF! Usage tells me I can exclude packages with --exclude=some_pkg_name > but that switch seems to be unknown to yum. > > Zach > > -- e r i k w i l l i a m s o n erik at cpsc.ucalgary.ca system admin . department of computer science . university of calgary From ademko at shaw.ca Tue Mar 2 02:12:49 2004 From: ademko at shaw.ca (Aleksander Demko) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:12:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: lvm2 question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try /sbin/lvm vgscan --mknodes then perhaps: /sbin/lvm vgchange -a y I'm guessing the super lvm binary is for LVM2 (which is what 2.6/FC2 uses)... All the old non/sbin/lvm binaries are LVM1. On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > This is after a clean install of FC2Test1: > > /sbin/vgdisplay > vgdisplay -- ERROR: "/etc/lvmtab" doesn't exist; please run vgscan > > [root at rpppc1 nbecker]# /sbin/vgscan > vgscan -- LVM driver/module not loaded? > > I'm just trying to display properties of my lvms. > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- // scopira.org | ninjacoder.com // From biped at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 02:24:17 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:24:17 -0500 Subject: weird yum behavior In-Reply-To: <1078191231.2123.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078191231.2123.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4043F051.2080802@comcast.net> Zach Wilkinson wrote: > [root at localhost root]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) > from server(s) [snip] > > [root at localhost root]# yum update --exclude=rhythmbox -- > exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media Order matters: yum [option] command [packagename] [option]: --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media command : update so yum --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media update will work better for you :: Marcus From ben.halicki at macquarietextiles.com.au Tue Mar 2 02:37:01 2004 From: ben.halicki at macquarietextiles.com.au (Ben Halicki) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:37:01 +1100 Subject: Installing individual packages *after* installing Fedora Message-ID: <001701c3ffff$3ef0aed0$a2cd04cb@dit03> Hi all, does anyone know how to install individual packages, after Fedora has been installed? In redhat 9, I used to be able to do an 'upgrade' install, which would allow me to install individual packages, but can't figure out how to do it using redhat-config-packages. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Ben. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biped at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 02:44:37 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:37 -0500 Subject: Nautilus problems Message-ID: <4043F515.6000101@comcast.net> I am running nautilus 2.5.8-1 and I have a couple of problems. Before I run off to bugzilla I wanted to check if anybody else is seeing this or has a solution. 1. Trash is gone. Even though it's checked in gconf to be visible I have no icon for it on the desktop 2. Context menu for Home is missing the Browse folder option right after startup. It's there for My Computer and after I open my home folder in spatial mode it appears. 3. Some of my nautilus scripts are misbehaving e.g. Open with gedit from http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/ no longer works: #!/bin/bash # # Nautilus script -> open gedit filesall="" while [ $# -gt 0 ] do files=`echo "$1" | sed 's/ /\?/g'` filesall="$files $filesall" shift done gedit $filesall& now tries to open the selected file in ~ instead of the current directory. :: Marcus From zachw at termdex.com Tue Mar 2 02:52:34 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:52:34 -0500 Subject: weird yum behavior In-Reply-To: <4043F051.2080802@comcast.net> References: <1078191231.2123.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4043F051.2080802@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1078195953.2123.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hmm, doesn't seem to make a difference: [root at localhost root]# yum --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Package rhythmbox needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.5, this is not available. Package rhythmbox needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. Package nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. Package gnome-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. Maybe it's dependency issue... Thanks, Zach On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 21:24 -0500, Marcus Schuetz wrote: > Zach Wilkinson wrote: > > [root at localhost root]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) > > from server(s) > [snip] > > > > [root at localhost root]# yum update --exclude=rhythmbox -- > > exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media > > Order matters: yum [option] command [packagename] > > [option]: --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media > > command : update > > so > > yum --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media > update > > will work better for you > > :: Marcus > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From stevewa at spiritone.com Tue Mar 2 03:08:08 2004 From: stevewa at spiritone.com (Steve Ward) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:08:08 -0800 Subject: Graphical Greeter -- Security gripe In-Reply-To: <20040302024301.10578.11556.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040302024301.10578.11556.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4043FA98.5040700@spiritone.com> The "last login" message string could appear in the splash screen that comes up while GNOME is being initialized... There just should not be any indication that the username is valid until after the password is correctly entered. One of the reasons I also intensely dislike "click to login" interfaces like XP and "Happy GNOME with Browser" From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Tue Mar 2 03:19:19 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:19:19 -0500 Subject: adding a new hard drive to an existing system Message-ID: I would like to add a new drive to my system running FC2 T1 what program do I use to fommat and mount it From mrsam at courier-mta.com Tue Mar 2 03:24:50 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 22:24:50 -0500 Subject: adding a new hard drive to an existing system References: Message-ID: alton bailey writes: > I would like to add a new drive to my system running FC2 T1 what program do > I use to fommat and mount it After adding the hard drive you need to determine its device name. If the new drive is the second IDE drive it'll be /dev/hdb. If the new drive is the second SCSI drive it'll be /dev/sdb. Use fdisk to partition the new drive, then mkfs to partition it. Afterwards use mount to mount it; and add it to /etc/fstab to have it mounted at system boot. That's assuming kudzu won't do that already anyway. If kudzu doesn't do this, I think it should. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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$ yum provides libgstcontrol-0.7.so.5 Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Server: Fedora.us Extras (Stable) Server: Livna.org - Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Looking in available packages for a providing package No packages found Looking in installed packages for a providing package Installed package: gstreamer.i386 0:0.7.3-5 matches with /usr/lib/libgstcontrol-0.7.so.5 Installed package: gstreamer.i386 0:0.7.3-5 matches with /usr/lib/libgstcontrol-0.7.so.5.0.0 Installed package: gstreamer.i386 0:0.7.3-5 matches with libgstcontrol-0.7.so.5 3 results returned $ yum list gstreamer Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Server: Fedora.us Extras (Stable) Server: Livna.org - Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Looking in Available Packages: Name Arch Version Repo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gstreamer i386 0.7.5-1 development Looking in Installed Packages: Name Arch Version Repo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gstreamer i386 0.7.3-5 db See; http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg00004.html From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Tue Mar 2 03:45:08 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:45:08 -0500 Subject: adding a new hard drive to an existing system References: Message-ID: thanks for the info greatly apreaciated ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Varshavchik" To: Sent: 03/01/2004 10:24 PM Subject: Re: adding a new hard drive to an existing system From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Tue Mar 2 03:47:32 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 22:47:32 -0500 Subject: adding a new hard drive to an existing system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1078199252.3132.9.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 22:24 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > alton bailey writes: > > > I would like to add a new drive to my system running FC2 T1 what program do > > I use to fommat and mount it > > After adding the hard drive you need to determine its device name. If the > new drive is the second IDE drive it'll be /dev/hdb. If the new drive is > the second SCSI drive it'll be /dev/sdb. > > Use fdisk to partition the new drive, then mkfs to partition it. Afterwards > use mount to mount it; and add it to /etc/fstab to have it mounted at system > boot. > > That's assuming kudzu won't do that already anyway. If kudzu doesn't do > this, I think it should. Also, in the menu "System Tools -> Hardware Browse" is a handy tool. From reader at newsguy.com Tue Mar 2 04:09:41 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 22:09:41 -0600 Subject: kernel rebuild does'nt build actual kernel In-Reply-To: (Tom Diehl's message of "Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:44 -0500 (EST)") References: Message-ID: Tom Diehl writes: > Yes it does. You just have to talk nice to it. :-) > > Try adding --target i686-redhat-linux to your command line. If you want to do > the i386 and i686 stuff at the same time add both --target i686-redhat-linux > and --target i386-redhat-linux on the command line. > > FWIW you can edit the spec file to turn off the debug, boot and other kernels > you might not need. The stuff you need to edit is right at the top. > Sorry to be a pest Tom but the *spec file is so poorly commented and the comments that are there are so ambiguous it is really difficult to tell from readin them what any of it supposed to be doing. Would have almost been better to no comment it at all. I don't see how to turn off debug smp other $ARCH or any of it for sure. I'm guessing the various arch can be turned off here: # groups of related archs %define all_x86 i386 i586 i686 %define all_sparc sparc sparc64 # Override generic defaults with per-arch defaults # First, architecture-specific kernels off on all other archs (ifnarch) %ifnarch i386 x86_64 sparc %define buildsource 0 %endif `Other' than what? Does this mean i386 x86_64 sparc are turned off? Or does it mean everything else is turned off? I don't understand why its required that comments be riddles.... hehe. I made the mistake of running: rpmbuild --target i686-redhat-linux --target i386-redhat-linux --target i586-redhat-linux -ba kernel-2.6.spec Its still running hours later. And this is on a 2GHz cpu with 512 ram. It already generated what I needed so I guess I'll kill it but I kind of wanted to see what is taking so damned long. And learn how to edit the spec so I get a little shorter run. I see nothing about debug that looks like something I can edit to shut it off. From biped at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 04:18:44 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:18:44 -0500 Subject: weird yum behavior In-Reply-To: <1078195953.2123.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078191231.2123.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4043F051.2080802@comcast.net> <1078195953.2123.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40440B24.4080006@comcast.net> Zach Wilkinson wrote: > Hmm, doesn't seem to make a difference: > > [root at localhost root]# yum --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=nautilus-media > --exclude=gnome-media update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .Package rhythmbox needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.5, this is not available. > Package rhythmbox needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. > Package nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not > available. > Package gnome-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. > > Maybe it's dependency issue... > > Thanks, > > Zach It is :-) Your _currently installed_ rhythmbox/nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5. Your yum update will upgrade gstreamer to the current version which now provides libgstreamer-0.7.so.6 (note the 6) instead. That's why yum is complaining. Welcome to rawhide :-) Wait a couple of days until rhythmbox/natilus-media has been rebuilt. HTH :: Marcus From tdiehl at rogueind.com Tue Mar 2 04:32:52 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 23:32:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: kernel rebuild does'nt build actual kernel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Tom Diehl writes: > > > Yes it does. You just have to talk nice to it. :-) > > > > Try adding --target i686-redhat-linux to your command line. If you want to do > > the i386 and i686 stuff at the same time add both --target i686-redhat-linux > > and --target i386-redhat-linux on the command line. > > > > FWIW you can edit the spec file to turn off the debug, boot and other kernels > > you might not need. The stuff you need to edit is right at the top. > > > > Sorry to be a pest Tom but the *spec file is so poorly commented and > the comments that are there are so ambiguous it is really difficult > to tell from readin them what any of it supposed to be doing. Sorry Harry, I have not looked at the 2.6 spec file. In the 2.4 spec file there is this at the top: # What parts do we want to build? We must build at least one kernel. # These are the kernels that are built IF the architecture allows and # no contrary --with/--without arguments are given on the command line. %define buildup 1 %define buildsmp 0 %define buildBOOT 0 %define buildbigmem 0 %define builddebug 0 %define buildjensen 0 %define buildtape 0 %define buildBOOTtape 0 %define buildUML 0 I just assumed that the 2.6 spec was the same. I know that the with/without part was stripped out of the 2.4 but last time I checked setting the above to 0 or 1 depending on what you need worked. Of course it has been a while since I did this so it might have changed. :-( > > Would have almost been better to no comment it at all. > > I don't see how to turn off debug smp other $ARCH or any of it for > sure. > > I'm guessing the various arch can be turned off here: > > # groups of related archs > %define all_x86 i386 i586 i686 > %define all_sparc sparc sparc64 I am not sure. > # Override generic defaults with per-arch defaults > > # First, architecture-specific kernels off on all other archs (ifnarch) > %ifnarch i386 x86_64 sparc > %define buildsource 0 > %endif > > `Other' than what? > > Does this mean i386 x86_64 sparc are turned off? > Or does it mean everything else is turned off? On archs that do not match what you are building?? IOW if you are building i386 you only get the i386 stuff. Same for i686. > > I don't understand why its required that comments be riddles.... hehe. > > I made the mistake of running: > rpmbuild --target i686-redhat-linux > --target i386-redhat-linux > --target i586-redhat-linux -ba kernel-2.6.spec > Its still running hours later. And this is on a 2GHz cpu with 512 > ram. Yes, it takes a while. I usually let it run overnight. > > It already generated what I needed so I guess I'll kill it but I kind > of wanted to see what is taking so damned long. And learn how to > edit the spec so I get a little shorter run. :-) Tom From efthym at gmx.net Tue Mar 2 04:51:45 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:51:45 -0500 Subject: weird yum behavior In-Reply-To: <1078195953.2123.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078191231.2123.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4043F051.2080802@comcast.net> <1078195953.2123.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:52:34 -0500, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > Hmm, doesn't seem to make a difference: > > [root at localhost root]# yum --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=nautilus-media > --exclude=gnome-media update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .Package rhythmbox needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.5, this is not available. > Package rhythmbox needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. > Package nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not > available. > Package gnome-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.5, this is not available. > > Maybe it's dependency issue... > > Thanks, > > Zach > > > > On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 21:24 -0500, Marcus Schuetz wrote: >> Zach Wilkinson wrote: >> > [root at localhost root]# yum update Gathering header information >> file(s) >> > from server(s) >> [snip] >> > >> > [root at localhost root]# yum update --exclude=rhythmbox -- >> > exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media >> >> Order matters: yum [option] command [packagename] >> >> [option]: --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=nautilus-media >> --exclude=gnome-media >> >> command : update >> >> so >> >> yum --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=nautilus-media --exclude=gnome-media >> update >> >> will work better for you >> >> :: Marcus >> >> >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > try yum --exclude=gstreamer --exclude=sound-juicer update From riobaan at hotmail.com Tue Mar 2 05:47:52 2004 From: riobaan at hotmail.com (Rio Baan) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 05:47:52 +0000 Subject: kernel 2.6 and sata Message-ID: I've got a Silicon image SATA RAID built-in on my ASUS P4G8X-Deluxe board, and it just causes my install of Fedora Core 2 test1 to bomb out. It gets as far as the gray init screen, and the dots stop swirling during "Setting hostname". After that everything locks up. Unplug the RAID, and presto! It boots OK (but with a few other errors) Also, I'm a bit miffed that the installer for Fedora only party recognised my RAID. My RAID is formatted in NTFS, so that's an excuse. However, when it comes time for patitioning during install, a screen popped up saying something akin to "Couldn't recognise hde and hdg, would you like to format the drives and LOSE ALL DATA". which was a bit frightening. It knew there were two drives there, but didn't think to figure out what was on them and why. Autopartition didn't even recognise the RAID's existance when confirming my formatting options. The box to hide/display LVM and RAID during that process seemed a bit useless. The whole SATA RAID thing is just my major sticking point with test1 at the moment. >On Monday 01 March 2004 5:05 pm, Levin Fritz wrote: > > Hi all, > > > root fs; I eventually gave up and rebooted. > > I had to copy theses messages to paper first, so there might be a typo > > here and there. > >I had the same problem with Aopen board with a via SATA chipset. i updated >the bios which included a sata bios update and had no luck i returned the >MOBO got another one since it was a week old. i upgraded the bios in the >new one and havent ahd a problem since. i cant say for certen if its >hardware or not but the 2.6.1 kernel that fc2 test 1 comes with is ok i >cant use the 2.6.3 kernels as im being told that there is no psaux device >cant load the agpart module but thats another story. and since its a new >system i havent trued FC1 ><< attach3 >> _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From alexl at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 08:44:36 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 02 Mar 2004 09:44:36 +0100 Subject: Nautilus problems In-Reply-To: <4043F515.6000101@comcast.net> References: <4043F515.6000101@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1078217076.29202.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 03:44, Marcus Schuetz wrote: > I am running nautilus 2.5.8-1 and I have a couple of problems. Before I > run off to bugzilla I wanted to check if anybody else is seeing this or > has a solution. > > 1. Trash is gone. Even though it's checked in gconf to be visible I have > no icon for it on the desktop Strange. Did you try clean up by name? maybe its under the panel or something. > 2. Context menu for Home is missing the Browse folder option right after > startup. It's there for My Computer and after I open my home folder in > spatial mode it appears. Please file this in bugzilla. > 3. Some of my nautilus scripts are misbehaving e.g. Open with gedit from > http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/ no longer works: > > #!/bin/bash > # > # Nautilus script -> open gedit > filesall="" > while [ $# -gt 0 ] > do > files=`echo "$1" | sed 's/ /\?/g'` > filesall="$files $filesall" > shift > done > gedit $filesall& > > now tries to open the selected file in ~ instead of the current directory. Did this work in 2.5.7? There were some changes to the launching code in 2.5.8. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a superhumanly strong overambitious paramedic in a wheelchair. She's a foxy out-of-work safe cracker descended from a line of powerful witches. They fight crime! From alexl at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 11:07:32 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 02 Mar 2004 12:07:32 +0100 Subject: Nautilus problems In-Reply-To: <1078217076.29202.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4043F515.6000101@comcast.net> <1078217076.29202.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1078225651.29202.128.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 09:44, Alexander Larsson wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 03:44, Marcus Schuetz wrote: > > I am running nautilus 2.5.8-1 and I have a couple of problems. Before I > > run off to bugzilla I wanted to check if anybody else is seeing this or > > has a solution. > > > > 2. Context menu for Home is missing the Browse folder option right after > > startup. It's there for My Computer and after I open my home folder in > > spatial mode it appears. > > Please file this in bugzilla. Don't. I fixed this in gnome cvs. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a notorious Jewish shaman haunted by memories of 'Nam. She's a mentally unstable mute college professor in the witness protection program. They fight crime! From biped at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 13:14:31 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 08:14:31 -0500 Subject: Nautilus problems In-Reply-To: <1078217076.29202.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4043F515.6000101@comcast.net> <1078217076.29202.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <404488B7.8030405@comcast.net> Alexander Larsson released the following into the bitstream on 03/02/04 03:44: > On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 03:44, Marcus Schuetz wrote: > >>I am running nautilus 2.5.8-1 and I have a couple of problems. Before I >>run off to bugzilla I wanted to check if anybody else is seeing this or >>has a solution. >> >>1. Trash is gone. Even though it's checked in gconf to be visible I have >>no icon for it on the desktop > > > Strange. Did you try clean up by name? maybe its under the panel or > something. No, I didn't change anything. I also toggled the gconf entry, but to no avail :( > > >>2. Context menu for Home is missing the Browse folder option right after >>startup. It's there for My Computer and after I open my home folder in >>spatial mode it appears. Thanks for fixing it :) >>3. Some of my nautilus scripts are misbehaving e.g. Open with gedit from >>http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/ no longer works: >> [snip] > > > Did this work in 2.5.7? There were some changes to the launching code in > 2.5.8. I fairly certain it did. :: Marcus From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 2 15:14:31 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 10:14:31 -0500 Subject: invalid context... Message-ID: Every rpm transaction seems to give hundreds of messages like this since installing all FC2T1 updates: /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:fsadm_exec_t on line number 762 [repeat for every line number from 1 to 1597] From alexl at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 15:35:43 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 02 Mar 2004 16:35:43 +0100 Subject: Nautilus problems In-Reply-To: <404488B7.8030405@comcast.net> References: <4043F515.6000101@comcast.net> <1078217076.29202.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> <404488B7.8030405@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1078241743.29202.138.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 14:14, Marcus Schuetz wrote: > Alexander Larsson released the following into the bitstream on 03/02/04 > >>3. Some of my nautilus scripts are misbehaving e.g. Open with gedit from > >>http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/ no longer works: > >> > [snip] > > > > > > Did this work in 2.5.7? There were some changes to the launching code in > > 2.5.8. > > I fairly certain it did. All right. Fixed in eel cvs. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a world-famous Jewish househusband possessed of the uncanny powers of an insect. She's an orphaned out-of-work mercenary who inherited a spooky stately manor from her late maiden aunt. They fight crime! From biped at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 15:55:56 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 10:55:56 -0500 Subject: Nautilus problems In-Reply-To: <1078241743.29202.138.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4043F515.6000101@comcast.net> <1078217076.29202.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> <404488B7.8030405@comcast.net> <1078241743.29202.138.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4044AE8C.7010202@comcast.net> Alexander Larsson wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 14:14, Marcus Schuetz wrote: > >>Alexander Larsson released the following into the bitstream on 03/02/04 >> >>>>3. Some of my nautilus scripts are misbehaving e.g. Open with gedit from >>>>http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/ no longer works: >>>> >> >>[snip] >> >>> >>>Did this work in 2.5.7? There were some changes to the launching code in >>>2.5.8. >> >>I fairly certain it did. > > > All right. Fixed in eel cvs. You're da man :-) And on the missing trash icon problem: I re-checked the gconf entry and noticed that /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_name is a boolean instead of a string. I changed the type to string in ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus/desktop/%gconf.xml but unfortunately the icon is still a no-show :( :: Marcus From karsten at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 16:47:20 2004 From: karsten at redhat.com (Karsten Hopp) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 17:47:20 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 1 Test Update: less-382-1.1 Message-ID: <20040302164719.GA24328@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-089 2004-03-02 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : less Version : 382 Release : 1.1 Summary : A text file browser similar to more, but better. Description : The less utility is a text file browser that resembles more, but has more capabilities. Less allows you to move backwards in the file as well as forwards. Since less doesn't have to read the entire input file before it starts, less starts up more quickly than text editors (for example, vi). You should install less because it is a basic utility for viewing text files, and you'll use it frequently. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This package contains an updated version of less, which is supposed to fix segfaults on certain types of files (bugzilla #117118). Support for non-UTF8 japanese charsets has been removed, therefore it isn't possible anymore to view non-UTF8 japanese texts with less by setting the JLESSCHARSET variable. See bugzilla #115079 and #116902 to read about the reasons for the removal of the iso254 patch. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Mar 02 2004 Karsten Hopp 382-1.1 - build for FC1 * Sat Feb 14 2004 Karsten Hopp 382-1 - new upstream version * Fri Feb 13 2004 Elliot Lee - rebuilt * Thu Jan 15 2004 Karsten Hopp 381-2 - drop iso247 patch, doesn't work --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 516474784f631065a9a07b9889b6d37f SRPMS/less-382-1.1.src.rpm ba187b15fdd866b3d27c327c0df9af7c i386/less-382-1.1.i386.rpm e97146748dccac8c58ffa6f842077da3 i386/debug/less-debuginfo-382-1.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Karsten Hopp GPG 1024D/70ABD02C Fingerprint D2D4 3B6B 2DE4 464C A432 210A DFF8 A140 70AB D02C Red Hat Deutschland, Hauptstaetter Str.58 70178 Stuttgart, Tel.+49-711-96437-0, Fax +49-711-96437-111 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From PMehta at soa.org Tue Mar 2 18:07:09 2004 From: PMehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:07:09 -0600 Subject: Fedora Core 2Test1 - PCMCIA Wireless problems Message-ID: I installed the FC2 test 1 on my dell 5150, install went without any problems. But i am unable to setup my wireless connection. I have a Cisco 350 pcmcia card. The card does not start, do i need to download or setup a new pcmcia-cs package.... - Pratik From tmus at get2net.dk Tue Mar 2 18:42:20 2004 From: tmus at get2net.dk (Thomas Munck Steenholdt) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:42:20 +0100 Subject: VMWARE ethernet + sound In-Reply-To: <009c01c3fc71$18c259c0$6401a8c0@idiot> References: <009c01c3fc71$18c259c0$6401a8c0@idiot> Message-ID: <4044D58C.6010002@get2net.dk> Clete Blackwell 2 wrote: > Hi, > > I'm testing out Fedora Core 2 Test 1 with VMWARE 4. I cannot seem to get > networking or sound working in the enviorment. Could someone point me to > anything or the right card set to use in the internet connection > settings thing? Also, I use DHCP. > > My REAL card (I doubt it matters) is a SOHOware 10/100 card and a turtle > beach: santa cruz. I have tried VMWARE's different kinds of networking, > none of them working. > > Sorry if I already sent this, I never got a confirmation mail and I > didn't get it as well, so I'm resending. (Hey mods, I sent it under the > wrong address, so it was held. If you read this, deny the last 2 :)). > > Clete2 > The problem with the driver not properly detecting the link on the virtual device is fixed in rawhide kernels since 2.6.3-1.116 Thomas From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 19:33:02 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 02 Mar 2004 16:33:02 -0300 Subject: Fedora Core 2Test1 - PCMCIA Wireless problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 2, 2004, "Pratik Mehta" wrote: > I installed the FC2 test 1 on my dell 5150, install went without any > problems. But i am unable to setup my wireless connection. I have a > Cisco 350 pcmcia card. The card does not start, do i need to > download or setup a new pcmcia-cs package.... Depends. If this is just one of the generic pcmcia issues, have a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116205 If it's something specific to this card, the bug above won't help. -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Happy GNU Year! oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer From biped at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 19:47:15 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 14:47:15 -0500 Subject: yum 2.0.5.20040229-1 problem Message-ID: <4044E4C3.3030906@comcast.net> After upgrading to the latest yum in rawhide (2.0.5.20040229-1) I am getting the following error when doing a yum list updates / yum update: Unable to find pid Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Server: Fedora.us Extras (Stable) Server: Fedora.us Extras (Testing) Server: Fedora.us Extras (Unstable) Server: Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) Server: Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (testing) Server: Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (unstable) Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers rpmdb: Program version 4.2 doesn't match environment version error: db4 error(22) from dbenv->open: Invalid argument error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Invalid argument (22) error: cannot open Packages database in /usr/lib/rpmdb/i386-redhat-linux/redhat Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders mi = cachedb.dbMatch() TypeError: rpmdb open failed Exit 1 :: Marcus From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 2 19:52:47 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:52:47 -0500 Subject: version/release identification for packages Message-ID: <200403021452.47048.czar@czarc.net> There seems to be this desire to put oddball version/release identifiers for packages. First, in FC2-T1 there was util-linux 2.12pre-3 being updated with 2.12-4 but rpm and up2date consider the older package to be newer. Now, for FC1 the recent update for tcpdump has 3.7.2-7.1 being updated by 3/7/2-7.fc1.1 but (again) the older packages is considered newer (and the same is true for libpcap 0.7.2-7.1 being updated by 0.7.2-7.fc1.1). For folks just letting up2date figure out what needs to be updated, this is a major problem. Please stop doing this. -- Gene From hcstudt at post10.tele.dk Tue Mar 2 19:54:01 2004 From: hcstudt at post10.tele.dk (Hans Christian Studt) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:54:01 +0100 Subject: yum problem = catch-22 Message-ID: <20040302195401.IMNL27146.fepY.post.tele.dk@localhost.localdomain> Today FC2T1 was updated to yum-2.0.5.20040229-1. The problem is that now yum does not work, which mean I can not receive a fixed version of yum (catch-22). ------------------------------------------------------------------ #rpm -qa | grep yum yum-2.0.5.20040229-1 ------------------------------------------------------------------ #yum check-update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders mi = cachedb.dbMatch() UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment ------------------------------------------------------------------ /usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py ------------------------------------------------------------------ def returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist): returndict = {} if conf.usecachedb and os.path.exists(conf.cachedb): rpm.addMacro("_dbpath", "/") cachedb = rpmUtils.Rpm_Ts_Work(dbPath=conf.cachedb) cachedb.setVSFlags(-1) mi = cachedb.dbMatch() for h in mi: hdrobj = rpmUtils.Header_Work(h) (n,e,v,r,a) = hdrobj.nevra() e = hdrobj.fixedEpoch() if (n, a) in nulist: returndict[(n, a, e, v, r)] = hdrobj del mi del cachedb rpm.delMacro("_dbpath") return returndict def download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist): total = len(nulist) "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py" 1343L, 54495C 914,1 67% ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mvh Hans Christian Studt Private +45 48 79 79 89 Mobile +45 29 23 54 14 Business +45 36 14 54 14 mailto:hc at studt.dk http://hc.studt.dk Powered by Linux 2.6.1-1.65 From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 19:59:26 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 02 Mar 2004 16:59:26 -0300 Subject: FC2-t1 exhibits long delay on LVM setup In-Reply-To: <1077210464.2070.503.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> References: <1076683632.7608.14.camel@zephyr> <1076707655.10752.6.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> <1077210464.2070.503.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Feb 19, 2004, "Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: > ...a patch to use 2.6's /sys/block pseudo-filesystem to filter which > block devices are worth probing for physical volumes. This should > improve things no end. Was this it? * Thu Feb 19 2004 Stephen C. Tweedie 2.00.08-4 - Add sysfs filter patch - Allow non-root users to build RPM Didn't fix the raid 1 problem for me. Unless I manually exclude raid member devices in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf, I get: Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... Found duplicate PV o4Icc0yt8OloT89tnJ5xq156XCwYEczT: using /dev/sda3 not /dev/hda2 This failure mode is particularly bad when your root fs is in such an LVM device, and you just rebuilt all of your initrd images with the new, ``fixed?? lvm binary and without lvm.conf. But even if I run it after booting from a working-lvm.conf initrd, if I run vgscan on the running system without lvm.conf, it fails just the same (and it scarily fails to complete) Want me to bugzilla this? -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Happy GNU Year! oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer From ksonney at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 20:02:05 2004 From: ksonney at redhat.com (Kevin Sonney) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:02:05 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 2Test1 - PCMCIA Wireless problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040302200204.GB8719@redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 04:33:02PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva spoke thusly: > > I installed the FC2 test 1 on my dell 5150, install went without any > > problems. But i am unable to setup my wireless connection. I have a > > Cisco 350 pcmcia card. The card does not start, do i need to > > download or setup a new pcmcia-cs package.... > > Depends. If this is just one of the generic pcmcia issues, have a > look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116205 > If it's something specific to this card, the bug above won't help. Also if it's the Cisco MPI350, and not a PCMCIA 350, he'll need at least kernel 2.6.3, and I expect he might run into this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117022 if he's using WEP. FWIW, I've had the PCMCIA 350 working in both FC2 test 1 on a Tecra 8100 and IBM ThinkPad t41. The MPI350 is still a special case, it seems. You'll need the card to be at no more than the 5.00.03 firmware for it to work in Linux - the newer firmware isn't supported just yet. -- ------------------------------------------ -- Kevin Sonney - Inside Sales Engineer -- -- Red Hat, Inc - 919.754.3700 x44112 -- -- ksonney at redhat.com - AIM: ksonney -- ------------------------------------------ 1024D/EB74 3C54 0260 6A01 705A 6F3F CD3B BAF1 4EB9 55BC "Bad Choo-Choo! I asked you specifically not to push Auntie Aubrey to the brink of madness! Naughty kitty!" -- Davan, http://www.somethingpositive.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We'll try and avoid that in the future. > Now, for > FC1 the recent update for tcpdump has 3.7.2-7.1 being updated by > 3/7/2-7.fc1.1 but (again) the older packages is considered newer (and the > same is true for libpcap 0.7.2-7.1 being updated by 0.7.2-7.fc1.1). That's a bug. Please put this in bugzilla. Bill From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 2 20:34:26 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:34:26 -0500 Subject: version/release identification for packages In-Reply-To: <20040302201420.GA12175@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200403021452.47048.czar@czarc.net> <20040302201420.GA12175@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403021534.26408.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 02 March 2004 15:14, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Gene C. (czar at czarc.net) said: > > There seems to be this desire to put oddball version/release identifiers > > for packages. First, in FC2-T1 there was util-linux 2.12pre-3 being > > updated with 2.12-4 but rpm and up2date consider the older package to be > > newer. > > Hm, the first one really shouldn't have been named XXpre. That's > a beta release, though, so, what's done is done. We'll try and avoid > that in the future. > > > Now, for > > FC1 the recent update for tcpdump has 3.7.2-7.1 being updated by > > 3/7/2-7.fc1.1 but (again) the older packages is considered newer (and the > > same is true for libpcap 0.7.2-7.1 being updated by 0.7.2-7.fc1.1). > > That's a bug. Please put this in bugzilla. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117321 -- From biped at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 20:37:03 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 15:37:03 -0500 Subject: yum problem = catch-22 In-Reply-To: <20040302195401.IMNL27146.fepY.post.tele.dk@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040302195401.IMNL27146.fepY.post.tele.dk@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4044F06F.9040903@comcast.net> Hans Christian Studt wrote: > Today FC2T1 was updated to yum-2.0.5.20040229-1. > > The problem is that now yum does not work, which mean I can not receive a fixed version of yum (catch-22). Check your /var/cache/yum/whatever_your_development_directory_is_called/packages/ directory and check if you still have in there and upgrade with rpm -Uvh --oldpackage yum-2.0.5.20040224-2.noarch.rpm . HTH :: Marcus From PMehta at soa.org Tue Mar 2 20:43:12 2004 From: PMehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 14:43:12 -0600 Subject: Fedora Core 2Test1 - PCMCIA Wireless problems Message-ID: Hi, I have Cisco 350, so that is fine. When i installed the FC2 test 1, i think i had kernel 2.6.1 ....I can use the ethernet to connect to redhat network and update it. Will this give me a new kernel 2.6.3 or do i have to build one. - Pratik >>> ksonney at redhat.com 3/2/2004 2:02:05 PM >>> On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 04:33:02PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva spoke thusly: > > I installed the FC2 test 1 on my dell 5150, install went without any > > problems. But i am unable to setup my wireless connection. I have a > > Cisco 350 pcmcia card. The card does not start, do i need to > > download or setup a new pcmcia-cs package.... > > Depends. If this is just one of the generic pcmcia issues, have a > look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116205 > If it's something specific to this card, the bug above won't help. Also if it's the Cisco MPI350, and not a PCMCIA 350, he'll need at least kernel 2.6.3, and I expect he might run into this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117022 if he's using WEP. FWIW, I've had the PCMCIA 350 working in both FC2 test 1 on a Tecra 8100 and IBM ThinkPad t41. The MPI350 is still a special case, it seems. You'll need the card to be at no more than the 5.00.03 firmware for it to work in Linux - the newer firmware isn't supported just yet. -- ------------------------------------------ -- Kevin Sonney - Inside Sales Engineer -- -- Red Hat, Inc - 919.754.3700 x44112 -- -- ksonney at redhat.com - AIM: ksonney -- ------------------------------------------ 1024D/EB74 3C54 0260 6A01 705A 6F3F CD3B BAF1 4EB9 55BC "Bad Choo-Choo! I asked you specifically not to push Auntie Aubrey to the brink of madness! Naughty kitty!" -- Davan, http://www.somethingpositive.net From hcstudt at post10.tele.dk Tue Mar 2 20:54:46 2004 From: hcstudt at post10.tele.dk (Hans Christian Studt) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 21:54:46 +0100 Subject: yum problem = catch-22 Message-ID: <20040302205447.IVBR29769.fepW.post.tele.dk@localhost.localdomain> Marcus Schuetz wrote: > Hans Christian Studt wrote: > >> Today FC2T1 was updated to yum-2.0.5.20040229-1. >> >> The problem is that now yum does not work, which mean I can not >> receive a fixed version of yum (catch-22). > > Check your > /var/cache/yum/whatever_your_development_directory_is_called/packages/ > directory and check if you still have in there and upgrade with > rpm -Uvh --oldpackage yum-2.0.5.20040224-2.noarch.rpm . Thanks I tried it before but now with '--oldpackage' it works for me :-) Mvh Hans Christian Studt Private +45 48 79 79 89 Mobile +45 29 23 54 14 Business +45 36 14 54 14 mailto:hc at studt.dk http://hc.studt.dk Powered by Linux 2.6.1-1.65 From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Mar 2 21:30:43 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:30:43 +0100 Subject: version/release identification for packages In-Reply-To: <20040302201420.GA12175@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200403021452.47048.czar@czarc.net> <20040302201420.GA12175@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4044FD03.7000505@gmx.de> Bill Nottingham wrote: >Gene C. (czar at czarc.net) said: > > >>There seems to be this desire to put oddball version/release identifiers for >>packages. First, in FC2-T1 there was util-linux 2.12pre-3 being updated with >>2.12-4 but rpm and up2date consider the older package to be newer. >> >> > >Hm, the first one really shouldn't have been named XXpre. That's >a beta release, though, so, what's done is done. We'll try and avoid >that in the future. > > > >>Now, for >>FC1 the recent update for tcpdump has 3.7.2-7.1 being updated by >>3/7/2-7.fc1.1 but (again) the older packages is considered newer (and the >>same is true for libpcap 0.7.2-7.1 being updated by 0.7.2-7.fc1.1). >> >> > >That's a bug. Please put this in bugzilla. > > and for the announced "fedora core 1 security-fix " ?? tcpdump, libpcap, arpwatch i had no time to file a bug, i recognized it ~ 3 hours later the message to the annouce-list was being held an email to harald was send. than i had to go to work, to late -- shrek-m From hellcat at hispeed.ch Tue Mar 2 21:50:01 2004 From: hellcat at hispeed.ch (HellCat) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:50:01 +0100 Subject: Dell Inspirion 8100 (Laptop) > Mouse Pad In-Reply-To: <4044DB95.8010308@gmx.net> References: <4044DB95.8010308@gmx.net> Message-ID: <40450189.9020408@hispeed.ch> Hi i upgraded my Fedora Core 1 to FC2 Test1. My mouse didn't work at all on X at the beginning but figured out that i had to change the mouse path in the X config. Now i have some problems with clicking. Normaly (FC1) i can click by tapping the mousepad. This doesn't work after the upgrade. Any ideas? HellCat From mickeyboa at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 22:02:51 2004 From: mickeyboa at comcast.net (jim tate) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 17:02:51 -0500 Subject: Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts Message-ID: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> Fedora2-test1 Mozilla,Firefox,Konqueror all three are very slow at Resolving Hosts and connecting to Websites. Resolv.conf is setup with "nameserver 192.168.1.1" gateway, Linksys-WRT55AG, eathernet, does not make any difference as to what make of eathernet card your using, not using wireless. Another PC and Laptop using Fedora1 core has no problems of resolving ,fast, on same network. Any Ideals? Jim Tate From cholder at martin.fl.us Tue Mar 2 22:08:01 2004 From: cholder at martin.fl.us (Chris Holder) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 17:08:01 -0500 Subject: Dell Inspirion 8100 (Laptop) > Mouse Pad In-Reply-To: References: <4044DB95.8010308@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1078265280.2181.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 16:50, HellCat wrote: > Hi > > i upgraded my Fedora Core 1 to FC2 Test1. > > My mouse didn't work at all on X at the beginning but figured out > that i had to change the mouse path in the X config. > > Now i have some problems with clicking. > Normaly (FC1) i can click by tapping the mousepad. > This doesn't work after the upgrade. > > Any ideas? > HellCat Experienced the lack of tap to click on a compaq laptop after upgrading to a stock 2.6 kernel pretty sure the version of the touchpad driver included with the kernel has tap to click disabled in the build. -- From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 22:10:01 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 02 Mar 2004 19:10:01 -0300 Subject: Fedora Core 2Test1 - PCMCIA Wireless problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 2, 2004, "Pratik Mehta" wrote: > I have Cisco 350, so that is fine. When i installed the FC2 test 1, > i think i had kernel 2.6.1 ....I can use the ethernet to connect to > redhat network and update it. Will this give me a new kernel 2.6.3 > or do i have to build one. Current rawhide (2.6.3-1.118) is 2.6.4-rc1-bk2 IIRC. So yes, it will give you a 2.6.3+ kernel. -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Happy GNU Year! oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 22:10:47 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 02 Mar 2004 19:10:47 -0300 Subject: Dell Inspirion 8100 (Laptop) > Mouse Pad In-Reply-To: <40450189.9020408@hispeed.ch> References: <4044DB95.8010308@gmx.net> <40450189.9020408@hispeed.ch> Message-ID: On Mar 2, 2004, HellCat wrote: > Normaly (FC1) i can click by tapping the mousepad. > This doesn't work after the upgrade. > Any ideas? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116674 -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Happy GNU Year! oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Tue Mar 2 23:09:27 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:09:27 -0300 Subject: Evolution broken deps Message-ID: <20040302230927.7968.qmail@hm36.locaweb.com.br> I'm trying to install evolution 1.4.5-7 on a FC2t1 machine and I'm getting these messages: [root at tirael headers]# yum install evolution Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies ....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package evolution needs libgal-2.0.so.5, this is not available. Package evolution needs libgal-a11y-2.0.so.5, this is not available. Package evolution needs libgtkhtml-3.0.so.2, this is not available. Package evolution needs libgtkhtml-a11y-3.0.so.2, this is not available. Package evolution needs libsoup-2.0.so.0, this is not available. [root at tirael headers]# I did use yum provides filename , but it only finds these libs in the libname-debuginfo packages , so it's not what evolution wants.. (it matches /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgal-2.0.so.5.0.1.debug when I look for libgal-2.0.so.5 , for example) Is this really broken or am I doing something stupid? -------------------- Pedro Fernandes Macedo From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Tue Mar 2 23:30:54 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 01:30:54 +0200 Subject: Testing procedures Message-ID: <1078270253.4255.4.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> If testers are expected to stay synced with rawhide then the schedule page on the fedora site needs to be modified. The following quote implies that a tester is expected to test the test release. "Releases during the test phase will be three weeks apart. Longer means testers are testing software that is too old; shorter means that testers abort testing too soon to start downloading the newer test release." From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 2 23:48:29 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:48:29 -0800 Subject: Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts In-Reply-To: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> References: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040302234829.GA13813@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:02:51PM -0500, jim tate wrote: > > Fedora2-test1 > Mozilla,Firefox,Konqueror all three are very slow at Resolving Hosts and > connecting > to Websites. > Resolv.conf is setup with "nameserver 192.168.1.1" gateway, Linksys-WRT55AG, > eathernet, does not make any difference as to what make of eathernet > card your using, > not using wireless. > Another PC and Laptop using Fedora1 core has no problems of resolving > ,fast, on > same network. > Any Ideals? s/Ideals/Ideas/ On the two linux boxes compare the results of "chkconfig --list | sort " Also on both machines compare: /etc/resolv.conf resolver configuration file /etc/host.conf resolver configuration file /etc/hosts My guess is that the quick machines are getting name/host resolution from the comcast name servers and not the Linksys. Check also the name server configured inside the Linksys, if it is wrong it will be slow. My strategy would be to setup a caching name server and list the comcast name servers and bypass the Linksys. You can snoop on the wire and watch host host names are resolved (tethereal) and compare the quick and the slow boxes. Is there a proxy in the mix (squid)? -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Mar 2 23:57:06 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 00:57:06 +0100 Subject: version/release identification for packages In-Reply-To: <200403021452.47048.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403021452.47048.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <40451F52.8080906@gmx.de> Gene C. wrote: > There seems to be this desire to put oddball version/release > identifiers for packages. First, in FC2-T1 there was util-linux > 2.12pre-3 being updated with 2.12-4 but rpm and up2date consider the > older package to be newer. Now, for FC1 the recent update for > tcpdump has 3.7.2-7.1 being updated by 3/7/2-7.fc1.1 but (again) the > older packages is considered newer (and the same is true for libpcap > 0.7.2-7.1 being updated by 0.7.2-7.fc1.1). > > For folks just letting up2date figure out what needs to be updated, > this is a major problem. Please stop doing this. i found the thread i was looking for "alpha vs numeric" http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legacy-list/2003-November/msg00192.html asymmetric triggering bug ?? 3.7.2-7.fc1.1 < 3.7.2-7.1 f < 1 From sct at redhat.com Tue Mar 2 23:59:20 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 02 Mar 2004 23:59:20 +0000 Subject: FC2-t1 exhibits long delay on LVM setup In-Reply-To: References: <1076683632.7608.14.camel@zephyr> <1076707655.10752.6.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> <1077210464.2070.503.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1078271960.1965.56.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 19:59, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Feb 19, 2004, "Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: > > > ...a patch to use 2.6's /sys/block pseudo-filesystem to filter which > > block devices are worth probing for physical volumes. This should > > improve things no end. > > Was this it? > > * Thu Feb 19 2004 Stephen C. Tweedie 2.00.08-4 > > - Add sysfs filter patch > - Allow non-root users to build RPM Yep. Took me a bit longer to do the testing than I'd planned, as I've found a quagmire of unrelated problems getting root-on-LVM working properly with dynamic majors and SELinux. But it's in rawhide now. > This failure mode is particularly bad when your root fs is in such an > LVM device, and you just rebuilt all of your initrd images with the > new, ``fixed?? lvm binary and without lvm.conf. But even if I run it > after booting from a working-lvm.conf initrd, if I run vgscan on the > running system without lvm.conf, it fails just the same (and it > scarily fails to complete) > > Want me to bugzilla this? Yes, please. --Stephen From christophe_bonnel at yahoo.fr Wed Mar 3 00:04:22 2004 From: christophe_bonnel at yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?christophe=20BONNEL?=) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 01:04:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: Pb with fedora distrib and compaq NC4000 laptop Message-ID: <20040303000422.83829.qmail@web11704.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, i am quite a newbie on linux and i try to install linux (fedora core V1) on my compaq NC4000 laptop with kernel 2.4. It was quite perfect except that the network card did'nt work and froze the laptop. So i decide to upgrade the kernel to 2.6 (a friend of mine said it could fix my problem). He was right, my netword card is ok, but now neither sound, acpi and usb cdrom or key work. I need help, i try to execute some how to to install my sound card manually but without success. Thanks in advance. Yahoo! Mail : votre e-mail personnel et gratuit qui vous suit partout ! Cr?ez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ Dialoguez en direct avec vos amis gr?ce ? Yahoo! Messenger !T?l?chargez Yahoo! Messenger sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 3 00:18:50 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 02 Mar 2004 21:18:50 -0300 Subject: FC2-t1 exhibits long delay on LVM setup In-Reply-To: <1078271960.1965.56.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> References: <1076683632.7608.14.camel@zephyr> <1076707655.10752.6.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> <1077210464.2070.503.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <1078271960.1965.56.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mar 2, 2004, "Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 19:59, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> Want me to bugzilla this? [raid1 fails to vgscan] > Yes, please. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117318 -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Happy GNU Year! oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer From fedora at andrewfarris.com Wed Mar 3 00:26:44 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:26:44 -0800 Subject: Evolution broken deps In-Reply-To: <20040302230927.7968.qmail@hm36.locaweb.com.br> References: <20040302230927.7968.qmail@hm36.locaweb.com.br> Message-ID: <1078273604.3105.9.camel@CirithUngol> On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 20:09 -0300, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > I'm trying to install evolution 1.4.5-7 on a FC2t1 machine and I'm getting these messages: > Package evolution needs libgal-2.0.so.5, this is not available. > Package evolution needs libgal-a11y-2.0.so.5, this is not available. > Package evolution needs libgtkhtml-3.0.so.2, this is not available. > Package evolution needs libgtkhtml-a11y-3.0.so.2, this is not available. > Package evolution needs libsoup-2.0.so.0, this is not available. > [root at tirael headers]# Assuming you're downgrading Evolution from the 1.5.x test release to 1.4.5-7: Downgrade these packages manually. You can get the latest available versions in the development tree, which I'm guessing are older than you have installed. I'm still running 1.5.x and it requires newer than the devel tree has right now. gtkhtml3, libsoup, and gal are the packages responsible. Download the rpms, then install using rpm -U --oldpackage package.rpm If this fails you may need to use the --force switch, but it should be avoided if you can! (perhaps even using a --nodeps remove of the too-new version and then install of the older packages) > Is this really broken or am I doing something stupid? > -------------------- > Pedro Fernandes Macedo Yes, its broken because Evolution 1.5.x used newer gtkhtml3 and libsoup packages. Downgrade doesn't work by yum because you have newer packages (and it only likes to go onward and upward). If you're not downgrading then something else is amiss. -- Andrew J Farris afarris at calpoly.edu :: andrew at andrewfarris.com California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo CA http://www.andrewfarris.com/ From ehoover at mines.edu Wed Mar 3 00:28:19 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (Erich Hoover) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 17:28:19 -0700 Subject: Graphic Interface for ACLs Message-ID: <404526A3.8010900@mines.edu> Will there be a graphic interface for ACLs? I saw a few threads about turning them on, but I think it would be much more useful to be able to set ACLs with GNOME or KDE. Is there actually a graphic interface for this and I'm just blind? From efthym at gmx.net Wed Mar 3 00:40:52 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:40:52 -0500 Subject: gnome-media & sound-recorder & gnomemeeting Message-ID: Hi all 3 problems occur right now, with all updates installed 1) In Gnomemeeting the sound controls are disabled (greyed out) (Gnomemeeting-1.0-1) 2) I updated gnome-media to 2.5.4-1 today. Got this error during installation : gnome-media 100 % done 10/62 I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/gconf/schemas/gnome-volume-control.schemas" Failed to open `/etc/gconf/schemas/gnome-volume-control.schemas': No such file or directory I checked after install and there is no such file under /etc/gconf/schemas, but the program works ok ! 3) When I run gnome-sound-recorder, I get a segfault (i'm not sure if this started after the update) $ gnome-sound-recorder (gnome-sound-recorder:1790): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkliststore.c: line 569 (gtk_list_store_get_value): assertion `GTK_LIST_STORE (tree_model)->stamp == iter->stamp' failed (gnome-sound-recorder:1790): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: gtype.c:3350: type id `0' is invalid (gnome-sound-recorder:1790): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: can't peek value table for type `' which is not currently referenced Segmentation fault Is there something I should check or should this go to Bugzilla ? From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 3 00:46:57 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 02 Mar 2004 21:46:57 -0300 Subject: Pb with fedora distrib and compaq NC4000 laptop In-Reply-To: <20040303000422.83829.qmail@web11704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040303000422.83829.qmail@web11704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mar 2, 2004, christophe BONNEL wrote: > It was quite perfect except that the network card did'nt work and froze > the laptop. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100920 ? -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Happy GNU Year! oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Wed Mar 3 01:01:16 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 22:01:16 -0300 Subject: Evolution broken deps In-Reply-To: <1078273604.3105.9.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1078273604.3105.9.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <20040303010116.23745.qmail@hm36.locaweb.com.br> On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:26:44 -0800, Andrew Farris escreveu: > Assuming you're downgrading Evolution from the 1.5.x test release to > 1.4.5-7: yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm gonna try it as soon as yum finishes the updates.. Thx. -------------------- Pedro Fernandes Macedo From jspaleta at princeton.edu Wed Mar 3 01:06:07 2004 From: jspaleta at princeton.edu (Jef Spaleta) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:06:07 -0500 Subject: Fedora Bug Day Tomorrow: March 3rd 2004: Don't Bug Mark Day Message-ID: <1078275967.22970.94.camel@spatula.pppl.gov> What: Fedora Bug Day: Learn to be a package shepherd Help us out with Fedora Core triage by picking your favorite Fedora Core package and acting as its community shepherd, by helping the package maintainer keep up with bug reports and submitted patches and so on and so forth. Alan Cox I think said it best: "Track the bugs in your favorite package/component: * try to make a few minutes everyday to look through the new bugs filed in the last day for the package you want to watch. * Sign up for the upstream mailing lists and bug tracking system, so you can more effectively be able to move bugs reported to Fedora upstream where they are more likely to be fixed." And to put a finer point on it Warren Togami adds: "Most projects don't have anything like an effective bug tracker of their own. Because of that, what we need are volunteers to serve as liaison to upstream projects. They should be members of those upstream mailing lists and pay attention to news/patches/security alerts there. Such helpers if they are diligent would be like assistants to the package maintainers, and learn things as they go as well as gain trust in the process" When: March 3rd, starting at 14:00 UTC (09:00 EST) Where: #fedora-bugs channel on freenode irc network How: Come to the #fedora-bugs channel on the freenode irc network tomorrow and be a part of the discussion. Instead of writing a very long drawn out explanation of what you should be doing as a package shepherd. I'll just point you to an example. http://www.ottolander.nl/gnome-panel/ I think leonardjo created a very useful shepherding tool with this simple static table. I think people might be able to do a lot of good taking this static table summary example and reusing it for other packages in Fedora Core. Poor Mark, he had to be the guinea pig package maintainer for leonardjo's proactive shepherding experiment. So instead of just picking on Mark, maybe its time to pick on..err i mean help...a few more package maintainers as well. So come on over to the #fedora-bugs channel tomorrow, pick a fedora core package you would like to start shepherding and start digging into the steaming pile of bugs waiting for you in bugzilla. What else: And if you can't be a package shepherd just yet, you're you can still be useful for general Fedora Core Triage, and help clean out the cobwebs in bugzilla so developers can find the bugreports that need attention. Huh: No Clue What I'm talking about when I say the phrase Fedora Triage? Take a quick look at the fedora-triage-list archives: https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/pipermail/fedora-triage-list/ These messages should hopefully tell you what its all about in more detail: http://tinyurl.com/ywma3 - Summary of my vision for Fedora Triage http://tinyurl.com/23alw - My short term goals and long term plan -jef"black belt cat herder"spaleta From linux00 at kornet.net Wed Mar 3 01:43:06 2004 From: linux00 at kornet.net (sangu) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:43:06 +0900 Subject: yum 2.0.5.20040229-1 problem In-Reply-To: <1078256854219348591.1.ppp14@ppp14> References: <1078256854219348591.1.ppp14@ppp14> Message-ID: <1078278185.1363.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117290 2004-03-02 (?) 14:47 -0500? Marcus Schuetz ???: > After upgrading to the latest yum in rawhide (2.0.5.20040229-1) I am > getting the following error when doing a yum list updates / yum update: > > Unable to find pid > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Server: Fedora.us Extras (Stable) > Server: Fedora.us Extras (Testing) > Server: Fedora.us Extras (Unstable) > Server: Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) > Server: Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (testing) > Server: Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (unstable) > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > rpmdb: Program version 4.2 doesn't match environment version > error: db4 error(22) from dbenv->open: Invalid argument > error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Invalid argument (22) > error: cannot open Packages database in > /usr/lib/rpmdb/i386-redhat-linux/redhat > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? > yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main > clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers > cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders > mi = cachedb.dbMatch() > TypeError: rpmdb open failed > Exit 1 > > :: Marcus > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ehoover at mines.edu Wed Mar 3 01:49:43 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (Erich Hoover) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 18:49:43 -0700 Subject: Pb with fedora distrib and compaq NC4000 laptop Message-ID: <404539B7.90302@mines.edu> I don't know about ACPI, but sound and USB should be fixable. For Sound: Run the tool in "System Settings" called "Soundcard Detection", it should be able to find your soundcard and configure it. For USB: If you can't use ANY USB devices then the host controller isn't getting loaded properly, try adding the line: alias usb-controller uhci-hcd to the file '/etc/modprobe.conf' in order to have the system load the host controller. Hope that helps! >Hello, i am quite a newbie on linux and i try to install linux (fedora >core V1) on my compaq NC4000 laptop with kernel 2.4. > >It was quite perfect except that the network card did'nt work and froze >the laptop. So i decide to upgrade the kernel to 2.6 (a friend of mine >said it could fix my problem). He was right, my netword card is ok, but >now neither sound, acpi and usb cdrom or key work. > >I need help, i try to execute some how to to install my sound card >manually but without success. > >Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > >Yahoo! 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BOFH1234 _________________________________________________________________ Get business advice and resources to improve your work life, from bCentral. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/loudclear.armx From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Mar 3 02:38:01 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:38:01 -0600 Subject: Login slowness & NFS problems Message-ID: <1078274137.1658.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> With the lastest couple of kernels in rawhide, it seems when logging into them via ssh, at least, they are very slow. I added selinux=0 to the .110 kernels and that seems to help. I also noticed that using .116 kernels that NFS doesn't seem to work, which I believe someone already mentioned in a previous email. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "You think it's funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mharris at redhat.com Wed Mar 3 03:36:12 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 22:36:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Dell Inspirion 8100 (Laptop) > Mouse Pad In-Reply-To: <40450189.9020408@hispeed.ch> References: <4044DB95.8010308@gmx.net> <40450189.9020408@hispeed.ch> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, HellCat wrote: >Now i have some problems with clicking. >Normaly (FC1) i can click by tapping the mousepad. Mousepads are no longer supported. Just throw the mousepad in a desk drawer and use your mouse directly on the surface of the desk and it should work. Hope this helps. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat From katzj at redhat.com Wed Mar 3 03:34:09 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:34:09 -0500 Subject: Evolution install problem and Mozilla+Thunderbird prob In-Reply-To: <4042C306.2080208@clara.co.uk> References: <4042C306.2080208@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <1078284849.10837.3.camel@edoras.local.net> On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 04:58 +0000, Bart Kalita wrote: > and since we are on the subject where is jeremy's ftp site for 1.5.x ?? http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ Jeremy From jdy at cs.brown.edu Wed Mar 3 03:58:47 2004 From: jdy at cs.brown.edu (Joel Young) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:58:47 -0500 Subject: Dell Inspirion 8100 (Laptop) > Mouse Pad In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:36:12 EST." References: <4044DB95.8010308@gmx.net> <40450189.9020408@hispeed.ch> Message-ID: <20040303035847.241192EFB9@null.cs.brown.edu> From: "Mike A. Harris" > On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, HellCat wrote: > >> Now i have some problems with clicking. >> Normaly (FC1) i can click by tapping the mousepad. > > Mousepads are no longer supported. Just throw the mousepad in a > desk drawer and use your mouse directly on the surface of the > desk and it should work. ROFLMAO!!! From linux at bytebot.net Wed Mar 3 04:18:57 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:18:57 +0800 Subject: FC2 docs CD? In-Reply-To: <1077730887.4639.7.camel@lioness.thunderpurr.net> References: <1077730887.4639.7.camel@lioness.thunderpurr.net> Message-ID: <1078286206.1018.17.camel@hermione> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:41, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > Will there be a separate documentation CD for FC2? For FC1 we were told > the RH9 docs CD was "close enough". Probably not... because we don't really have any docs to begin with. Some are in the process of being created, if you want to help, fedora-docs-list at redhat.com is the place to be (and of course, search the archives - several stabs at getting docs written have been taken). -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ http://training.bytebot.net/ - FREE OpenOffice.org Training http://fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/ - Fedora News Updates From mickeyboa at comcast.net Wed Mar 3 05:45:19 2004 From: mickeyboa at comcast.net (jim tate) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 00:45:19 -0500 Subject: Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts In-Reply-To: <20040302234829.GA13813@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> <20040302234829.GA13813@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <404570EF.3050308@comcast.net> Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell wrote: >On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:02:51PM -0500, jim tate wrote: > > >>Fedora2-test1 >>Mozilla,Firefox,Konqueror all three are very slow at Resolving Hosts and >>connecting >>to Websites. >>Resolv.conf is setup with "nameserver 192.168.1.1" gateway, Linksys-WRT55AG, >>eathernet, does not make any difference as to what make of eathernet >>card your using, >>not using wireless. >>Another PC and Laptop using Fedora1 core has no problems of resolving >>,fast, on > same network. >> >> > > > >>Any Ideals? >> >> > >s/Ideals/Ideas/ > >On the two linux boxes compare the results of "chkconfig --list | sort " >Also on both machines compare: > /etc/resolv.conf resolver configuration file > /etc/host.conf resolver configuration file > /etc/hosts > >My guess is that the quick machines are getting name/host resolution from >the comcast name servers and not the Linksys. Check also the name server >configured inside the Linksys, if it is wrong it will be slow. > >My strategy would be to setup a caching name server and list the comcast >name servers and bypass the Linksys. > >You can snoop on the wire and watch host host names are resolved (tethereal) >and compare the quick and the slow boxes. > >Is there a proxy in the mix (squid)? > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Text URL: From linux at bytebot.net Wed Mar 3 06:42:44 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:42:44 +0800 Subject: Eject disc not automatic? Message-ID: <1078296164.1020.51.camel@hermione> OK, I'll be honest, I can't quite remember if this was done before or not (and I don't have any other spare boxes to test it on).[1] During the installation of FC2 test1, when its time to change discs, I noticed that it didn't eject the CDROM automatically - I actually had to push the eject button. If it used to be automatic, this is a bug (and I'll file it). If it wasn't, it might be a nice feature to have (and I'll file an RFE). Test machine - IBM Thinkpad T20, with the DVD-ROM drive. Performed an upgrade install from FC1 (updates-testing). Thanks. [1] - I installed Yellow Dog Linux (so I could use Fedora PPC stuff from rawhide) on a G4 last night, and it actually ejected each CD automatically (which is why, I guess, I ask...) -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ http://training.bytebot.net/ - FREE OpenOffice.org Training http://fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/ - Fedora News Updates From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 3 07:29:27 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:29:27 -0800 Subject: Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts In-Reply-To: <404570EF.3050308@comcast.net> References: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> <20040302234829.GA13813@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <404570EF.3050308@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040303072927.GA15158@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:45:19AM -0500, jim tate wrote: > Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell wrote: > >On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:02:51PM -0500, jim tate wrote: > > > > > >>Fedora2-test1 > >>Mozilla,Firefox,Konqueror all three are very slow at Resolving Hosts and > >>connecting > >>to Websites. > >>Resolv.conf is setup with "nameserver 192.168.1.1" gateway, > >>Linksys-WRT55AG, > >>eathernet, does not make any difference as to what make of eathernet > >>card your using, > >>not using wireless. > >>Another PC and Laptop using Fedora1 core has no problems of resolving > >>,fast, on > same network. .... > >On the two linux boxes compare the results of "chkconfig --list | sort " > >Also on both machines compare: > > /etc/resolv.conf resolver configuration file > > /etc/host.conf resolver configuration file > > /etc/hosts > > > >My guess is that the quick machines are getting name/host resolution from > >the comcast name servers and not the Linksys. Check also the name server > >configured inside the Linksys, if it is wrong it will be slow. > > > >My strategy would be to setup a caching name server and list the comcast > >name servers and bypass the Linksys. > > > >You can snoop on the wire and watch host host names are resolved > >(tethereal) > >and compare the quick and the slow boxes. > > You were right after running "tethereal" and going to http://linuxtoday.com, you can see where > the Fedora1 core box (192.168.1.2) was going to Comcast.net dns numbers (63.236.73.20)and > The Fedora2-test1 box(192.168.1.3) is going to the (192.168.1.1)Gateway, Linksys router and > through the router is where the resolving delay is. Remember that boxes like the Linksys switch packets. You need to snoop (tehereal) on each box. i.e. 192.168.1.2 cannot snoop 192.168.1.1 traffic unless you use an old style non switching hub. > How do I correct this on the Fedora2-test1 box. Are you using DHCP on one or both boxes? What does comparing resolv.conf and host.conf tell you? Try adding the Comcast.net DNS resources to /etc/resolv.conf on the slow box. You can leave the Linksys ipaddress commented out or last in the list. Based on mail headers, in your case these may be useful in your hosts and resolv.conf files. 68.87.96.3 dns01.jdc01.pa.comcast.net. 68.87.96.4 dns02.jdc01.pa.comcast.net. Remember that one works and the other does not. The answer is at hand. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From peter.whysall at ntlworld.com Wed Mar 3 08:25:20 2004 From: peter.whysall at ntlworld.com (Peter Whysall) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 08:25:20 +0000 Subject: yum problem = catch-22 In-Reply-To: <20040302195401.IMNL27146.fepY.post.tele.dk@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040302195401.IMNL27146.fepY.post.tele.dk@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1078302320.2237.1.camel@cordelia> On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 20:54 +0100, Hans Christian Studt wrote: > Today FC2T1 was updated to yum-2.0.5.20040229-1. > > The problem is that now yum does not work, which mean I can not receive a fixed version of yum (catch-22). For those who have hit this problem (and, like me, didn't have the old yum RPM in the package cache), you can download the yum 2.0.5 RPM from: http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/download.ptml Hope this helps, Peter. -- Peter Whysall From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 3 08:46:28 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 00:46:28 -0800 Subject: yum problem = catch-22 In-Reply-To: <1078302320.2237.1.camel@cordelia> References: <20040302195401.IMNL27146.fepY.post.tele.dk@localhost.localdomain> <1078302320.2237.1.camel@cordelia> Message-ID: <20040303084627.GA15696@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 08:25:20AM +0000, Peter Whysall wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 20:54 +0100, Hans Christian Studt wrote: > > Today FC2T1 was updated to yum-2.0.5.20040229-1. > > > > The problem is that now yum does not work, which mean I can not receive a fixed version of yum (catch-22). > > For those who have hit this problem (and, like me, didn't have the old > yum RPM in the package cache), you can download the yum 2.0.5 RPM from: > > http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/download.ptml It does. One would hope that up2date and yum do not change within 48 hours of each other in the development process. Call one chicken and the other egg then one can bootstrap or repair the other. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From james.feltham at itnetplc.com Wed Mar 3 09:15:13 2004 From: james.feltham at itnetplc.com (james.feltham at itnetplc.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 09:15:13 +0000 Subject: Mailman results for fedora-test-list Message-ID: unsubscribe itnetplc james.feltham at itnetplc.com ****************************************************************************** Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of ITNET plc and or its subsidiaries. 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Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C1809C1AE@eemail1.microlink.lan> Colin Charles wrote: > > OK, I'll be honest, I can't quite remember if this was done before or > not (and I don't have any other spare boxes to test it on).[1] > > During the installation of FC2 test1, when its time to change discs, I > noticed that it didn't eject the CDROM automatically - I > actually had to > push the eject button. > > If it used to be automatic, this is a bug (and I'll file it). If it > wasn't, it might be a nice feature to have (and I'll file an RFE). From james.feltham at itnetplc.com Wed Mar 3 09:25:31 2004 From: james.feltham at itnetplc.com (james.feltham at itnetplc.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 09:25:31 +0000 Subject: unsubscribe itnetplc james.feltham@itnetplc.com Message-ID: ****************************************************************************** Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of ITNET plc and or its subsidiaries. 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Please then delete this email and destroy any copies of it. ****************************************************************************** From pmatilai at welho.com Wed Mar 3 10:33:51 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:33:51 +0200 (EET) Subject: Apt an Synaptic In-Reply-To: <1077386709.3646.10.camel@rhema> References: <40374DFF.3030308@comcast.net> <1077386709.3646.10.camel@rhema> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Deji Akingunola wrote: > On Sat, 2004-02-21 at 07:24, jim tate wrote: > > Is there a Apt and Synaptic for Fedora2-test out yet, and where can you > > get them, > > That does not require lot of dependencies corrections. > > > > Thanks > > Jim Tate > > > Apt for FC2-test is available here; > http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/fc2-test/ > I don't know of any repository where you can get synaptic rpm, but you > can recompile the src.rpm from freshrpms.net latest synaptic. FYI: both apt and synaptic are now available from fedora.us (and mirrors) FC 1.90 repository, it's recommended to use those. - Panu - From linux at bytebot.net Wed Mar 3 10:35:55 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 18:35:55 +0800 Subject: Eject disc not automatic? In-Reply-To: <1078296164.1020.51.camel@hermione> References: <1078296164.1020.51.camel@hermione> Message-ID: <1078310154.3338.71.camel@hermione> On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 14:42, Colin Charles wrote: > OK, I'll be honest, I can't quite remember if this was done before or > not (and I don't have any other spare boxes to test it on).[1] Oops, should've read the release notes again (rather than a couple of weeks ago). Known error, will be fixed for test2. Sorry! -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ http://training.bytebot.net/ - FREE OpenOffice.org Training http://fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/ - Fedora News Updates From mickeyboa at comcast.net Wed Mar 3 11:00:56 2004 From: mickeyboa at comcast.net (jim tate) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 06:00:56 -0500 Subject: Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts In-Reply-To: <20040303072927.GA15158@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> <20040302234829.GA13813@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <404570EF.3050308@comcast.net> <20040303072927.GA15158@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <4045BAE8.6020701@comcast.net> Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell wrote: >On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:45:19AM -0500, jim tate wrote: > > >>Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:02:51PM -0500, jim tate wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Fedora2-test1 >>>>Mozilla,Firefox,Konqueror all three are very slow at Resolving Hosts and >>>>connecting >>>>to Websites. >>>>Resolv.conf is setup with "nameserver 192.168.1.1" gateway, >>>>Linksys-WRT55AG, >>>>eathernet, does not make any difference as to what make of eathernet >>>>card your using, >>>>not using wireless. >>>>Another PC and Laptop using Fedora1 core has no problems of resolving >>>>,fast, on > same network. >>>> >>>> >.... > > > >>>On the two linux boxes compare the results of "chkconfig --list | sort " >>>Also on both machines compare: >>> /etc/resolv.conf resolver configuration file >>> /etc/host.conf resolver configuration file >>> /etc/hosts >>> >>>My guess is that the quick machines are getting name/host resolution from >>>the comcast name servers and not the Linksys. Check also the name server >>>configured inside the Linksys, if it is wrong it will be slow. >>> >>>My strategy would be to setup a caching name server and list the comcast >>>name servers and bypass the Linksys. >>> >>>You can snoop on the wire and watch host host names are resolved >>>(tethereal) >>>and compare the quick and the slow boxes. >>> >>> > > > >>You were right after running "tethereal" and going to http://linuxtoday.com, you can see where >>the Fedora1 core box (192.168.1.2) was going to Comcast.net dns numbers (63.236.73.20)and >>The Fedora2-test1 box(192.168.1.3) is going to the (192.168.1.1)Gateway, Linksys router and >>through the router is where the resolving delay is. >> >> > >Remember that boxes like the Linksys switch packets. You need to snoop (tehereal) >on each box. i.e. 192.168.1.2 cannot snoop 192.168.1.1 traffic unless you use >an old style non switching hub. > > > >>How do I correct this on the Fedora2-test1 box. >> >> > >Are you using DHCP on one or both boxes? > >What does comparing resolv.conf and host.conf tell you? > >Try adding the Comcast.net DNS resources to /etc/resolv.conf on the slow box. >You can leave the Linksys ipaddress commented out or last in the list. > >Based on mail headers, in your case these may be useful in your hosts >and resolv.conf files. > 68.87.96.3 dns01.jdc01.pa.comcast.net. > 68.87.96.4 dns02.jdc01.pa.comcast.net. > >Remember that one works and the other does not. The answer is at hand. > > > > Linksys is connected to to the cable modem by DHCP, I don't have a fixed IP asigned by Comcast.net is DHCP. The network side of Linksys is 192.168.1.1 (Gateway)and each of the two PC and Laptop have their own IP numbers. all three are connected to Linksys by ethernet cables. This only started after I converted this P3/ 800 box to Fedora2-test, with Fedora 1 is was okay. The resolv.conf, host.conf, and hosts files have the same settings on all three boxes Doing /sbin/chkconfig --list | sort , all services are the same with the exception that Fedora2-test has four extra services than does Fedora1. Readahead 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:on 6:off cpuspeed 0:off 1:on 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off firstboot 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:off 5:on 6:off ypbind 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off (no nis server is installed). Thanks Jim Tate From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 12:05:18 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 07:05:18 -0500 Subject: SELINUX attack - turn it off! Message-ID: After updating everything (except yum) last night, I can no longer boot. There are messages about selinux starting, then almost everything fails because of selinux. Even init cannot write. Sorry no log, syslog is not allowed to write to disk. I can boot single user. How can I turn this off? From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Mar 3 12:21:27 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:21:27 +0000 Subject: SELINUX attack - turn it off! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403031221.28006.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 03 March 2004 12:05, Neal D. Becker wrote: > After updating everything (except yum) last night, I can no longer boot. > There are messages about selinux starting, then almost everything fails > because of selinux. Even init cannot write. Sorry no log, syslog is not > allowed to write to disk. > > I can boot single user. How can I turn this off? selinux=0 on the kernel commandline, according to ./security/selinux/Kconfig - -Andy - -- Find your answer without waiting for replies.... Searchable list archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFARc3HjKeDCxMJCTIRAmKQAJ9BgmsrPltunsYxC2gRoq7S1bfwlwCdExES jQPTuZUlX1G2ml6kKkBG7vc= =8khM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nbecker at hns.com Wed Mar 3 12:27:48 2004 From: nbecker at hns.com (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 07:27:48 -0500 Subject: SELINUX attack - turn it off! In-Reply-To: <200403031221.28006.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <200403031221.28006.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <200403030727.50145.nbecker@hns.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 03 March 2004 7:21 am, Andy Green wrote: > On Wednesday 03 March 2004 12:05, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > After updating everything (except yum) last night, I can no longer boot. > > There are messages about selinux starting, then almost everything fails > > because of selinux. Even init cannot write. Sorry no log, syslog is not > > allowed to write to disk. > > > > I can boot single user. How can I turn this off? > > selinux=0 on the kernel commandline, according to > ./security/selinux/Kconfig > Thanks for the info. What is this "./security/selinux/Kconfig" that you refer to? - -- Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFARc9EMDqogpR5tkMRArbwAJ9HPv1Dq2aCGSg6vj2C12pFMIygOQCfXALe pKhzQclFFbbTQzh07dDY9EU= =a9X9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Mar 3 12:37:28 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:37:28 +0000 Subject: SELINUX attack - turn it off! In-Reply-To: <200403030727.50145.nbecker@hns.com> References: <200403031221.28006.fedora@warmcat.com> <200403030727.50145.nbecker@hns.com> Message-ID: <200403031237.28857.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 03 March 2004 12:27, Neal D. Becker wrote: > Thanks for the info. What is this "./security/selinux/Kconfig" that you > refer to? In the Redhat version of the Linux kernel sources, for example /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-1.116/security/selinux/Kconfig - -Andy - -- Find your answer without waiting for replies.... Searchable list archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFARdGIjKeDCxMJCTIRAlpsAJ9lwJ9h6fS2Xzl8YDCcFnuEg8eKzwCfSMJn 9RbwlPYboBRcgav7AllsrQ4= =ImuU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bartk at clara.co.uk Wed Mar 3 12:38:28 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:38:28 +0000 Subject: Regarding Evolution 1.5 Message-ID: <4045D1C4.4000301@clara.co.uk> May I ask why people are downgrading form 1.5 ? Is the developement being stoped ? I recall reading that 1.5 won't be in FC2 but cant thouse wanting to use it follow Katzj devel?? -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From bartk at clara.co.uk Wed Mar 3 12:39:30 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:39:30 +0000 Subject: Regarding Evolution 1.5 Message-ID: <4045D202.6040705@clara.co.uk> May I ask why people are downgrading form 1.5 ? Is the developement being stoped ? I recall reading that 1.5 won't be in FC2 but cant thouse wanting to use it follow Katzj devel?? -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 13:04:09 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 08:04:09 -0500 Subject: Persistent device naming Message-ID: What package should I use for persistent device naming? I had been using devlabel for usb things, so I can have e.g. /dev/camera. It works, but every time I boot with the camera not hooked up I get messages. I see we have udev and according to doc udev should also be able to serve this function? Which is the preferred approach? From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Mar 3 13:30:41 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 07:30:41 -0600 Subject: Login slowness & NFS problems In-Reply-To: <1078274137.1658.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1078274137.1658.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1078320641.1648.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 20:38, Mike Chambers wrote: > With the lastest couple of kernels in rawhide, it seems when logging > into them via ssh, at least, they are very slow. I added selinux=0 to > the .110 kernels and that seems to help. Upgrading to .118 from rawhide seems to fix the problem, even while taking out the selinux=0 and reenabling it. > > I also noticed that using .116 kernels that NFS doesn't seem to work, > which I believe someone already mentioned in a previous email. Same as above, .118 kernel version seems to now work as well. I did notice looking through dmesg at the selinux messages, and wasn't sure if I was actually running it or not.. Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. Failure registering capabilities with the kernel selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability (thought I saw something about a diff mode to run it?) -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "You think it's funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From lewt at warcry.com Wed Mar 3 15:48:59 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (lewt at warcry.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:48:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: x86_64 Branch of the 1.90 Tree Message-ID: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> I'm looking to test FC2T1 under the x86_64 platform. However I can only find i386 iso's available.. Has anyone made iso's for x86_64 yet? or does anyone know how or where to find out how to net install or make iso's myself from the x86_64 area of the 1.90 tree. Thanks Corey From linux at bytebot.net Wed Mar 3 16:10:02 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:10:02 +0800 Subject: Regarding Evolution 1.5 In-Reply-To: <4045D202.6040705@clara.co.uk> References: <4045D202.6040705@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <1078326410.1016.97.camel@hermione> On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 20:39, Bart Kalita wrote: > May I ask why people are downgrading form 1.5 ? Because Evo 2.0 will not be in Gnome 2.6, as the schedule is slipping. We have to release FC2 before Evo 2.0 will be ready for prime time. > Is the developement being stoped ? No, it is still happening (actively). > I recall reading that 1.5 won't be in FC2 but cant thouse wanting to > use it follow Katzj devel?? Add the following to /etc/yum.conf [evolution] name=Evolution Devel Snaps baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/katzj/evolution/ -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ http://training.bytebot.net/ - FREE OpenOffice.org Training http://fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/ - Fedora News Updates From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Wed Mar 3 16:16:08 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:16:08 -0600 Subject: ess soundcard not detected Message-ID: <404604C8.2020708@precisiondrive.com> I have a compaq deskpro with a built-in ess 1869 soundcard and it worked just fine in RH7, 8, 9 and Fedora Core 1, but it now does not work. Their are several sound modules loaded ide_cd 36100 0 - Live 0xd89a3000 snd_mixer_oss 17024 0 - Live 0xd894e000 snd 53476 1 snd_mixer_oss, Live 0xd89b5000 soundcore 9952 1 snd, Live 0xd8976000 ipv6 233856 24 - Live 0xd8a40000 lp 11884 0 - Live 0xd8972000 autofs 20096 0 - Live 0xd886c000 e100 38660 0 - Live 0xd8998000 mii 4864 1 e100, Live 0xd8869000 ohci1394 38296 0 - Live 0xd892e000 ieee1394 299444 1 ohci1394, Live 0xd89f5000 floppy 58928 0 - Live 0xd8988000 sg 33440 0 - Live 0xd8944000 sd_mod 15392 0 - Live 0xd8912000 st 36380 0 - Live 0xd893a000 sr_mod 16292 0 - Live 0xd890d000 scsi_mod 114876 4 sg,sd_mod,st,sr_mod, Live 0xd8954000 cdrom 33564 2 ide_cd,sr_mod, Live 0xd8924000 parport_pc 35244 1 - Live 0xd891a000 parport 44648 2 lp,parport_pc, Live 0xd8830000 microcode 6688 0 - Live 0xd882d000 hid 53396 0 - Live 0xd885a000 uhci_hcd 38172 0 - Live 0xd884f000 usbcore 107316 4 hid,uhci_hcd, Live 0xd8890000 ext3 115240 3 - Live 0xd8872000 jbd 72472 1 ext3, Live 0xd883c000 Dave Waller From sopwith at redhat.com Wed Mar 3 16:32:21 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:32:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: x86_64 Branch of the 1.90 Tree In-Reply-To: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 lewt at warcry.com wrote: > I'm looking to test FC2T1 under the x86_64 platform. However I can only > find i386 iso's available.. Has anyone made iso's for x86_64 yet? or does > anyone know how or where to find out how to net install The development tree (formerly known as rawhide) should always be net-installable for all archs that have a kernel and installer (currently, x86 and x86-64). -- Elliot From PMehta at soa.org Wed Mar 3 16:32:01 2004 From: PMehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:32:01 -0600 Subject: up2date ..not fetching headers for kdelibs-3.2.0-1.4 Message-ID: hi, i am trying to use up2date to update my FC2test1 to the new kernel 2.6.3 ...and when the progress dialog is fetching headers it stops at kdelibs above.....is there something else i can use to update the kernel ....such as apt-get .... - Pratik From lewt at warcry.com Wed Mar 3 16:36:00 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (lewt at warcry.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:36:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: x86_64 Branch of the 1.90 Tree In-Reply-To: References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> Message-ID: <58626.199.74.155.50.1078331760.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> I've never done a net install.. anyone know a good writeup? Thanks > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 lewt at warcry.com wrote: > >> I'm looking to test FC2T1 under the x86_64 platform. However I can only >> find i386 iso's available.. Has anyone made iso's for x86_64 yet? or >> does >> anyone know how or where to find out how to net install > > The development tree (formerly known as rawhide) should always be > net-installable for all archs that have a kernel and installer (currently, > x86 and x86-64). > > -- Elliot > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Wed Mar 3 16:46:18 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:46:18 -0600 Subject: up2date ..not fetching headers for kdelibs-3.2.0-1.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40460BDA.2020005@precisiondrive.com> I have pretty much given up on up2date. The server must be too busy or something like that because it tries and now it hung on a2ps. I am pretty current on packages but I ftp'd them manually and then faught with rpm -F *.rpm and rpm -Uvh *.rpm on groups of files to get there. Right now up2date is saying that I only need about 12 packages that were updated last night. Dave Pratik Mehta wrote: >hi, > > i am trying to use up2date to update my FC2test1 to the new kernel 2.6.3 ...and when the progress dialog is fetching headers it stops at kdelibs above.....is there something else i can use to update the kernel ....such as apt-get .... > >- Pratik > > > > From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Wed Mar 3 16:58:13 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:58:13 -0600 Subject: Cannot Logout of X Successfully Message-ID: <40460EA5.9070009@precisiondrive.com> I am not able to logout properly yet and it almost always results in going to another computer and ssh'ing in to reboot the system. I have a dual head system and I have it configured so that the displays are connected. when I logout X seems to restart but then the mouse can not travel to the other display and it stays black, no login screen. And I can not switch to text console and the num lock or caps lock is not setable either. I don't know if it is related but the System Settings -> Display app does not let me save either and in .xsession-errors file is complains about line 177: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py", line 177, in ok display_option.modes[0].name = res IndexError: index out-of-bounds Dave From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 16:58:54 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:58:54 -0500 Subject: List for Fedora Stable? Message-ID: Who maintains download.fedora.us/...stable stuff? I'd like to request some additions. From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Wed Mar 3 17:54:23 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 18:54:23 +0100 Subject: up2date ..not fetching headers for kdelibs-3.2.0-1.4 In-Reply-To: <40460BDA.2020005@precisiondrive.com> References: <40460BDA.2020005@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <20040303185423.5be362a9.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:46:18 -0600, Dave Waller wrote: > I have pretty much given up on up2date. The server must be too busy or > something like that because it tries and now it hung on a2ps. Then choose a mirror. -- From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Wed Mar 3 17:55:42 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 18:55:42 +0100 Subject: List for Fedora Stable? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040303185542.797d9bd3.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:58:54 -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > Who maintains download.fedora.us/...stable stuff? I'd like to request some > additions. http://fedora.us -- From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Wed Mar 3 18:02:24 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:02:24 -0300 Subject: up2date ..not fetching headers for kdelibs-3.2.0-1.4 In-Reply-To: <20040303185423.5be362a9.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <40460BDA.2020005@precisiondrive.com> <20040303185423.5be362a9.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1078336943.17820.5.camel@vodka.crc.dcc.ufmg.br> On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 14:54, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Then choose a mirror. > If he's using FC2 t1 , choosing a mirror shouldn't be necessary , as up2date downloads the mirror-list from redhat and chooses one of the mirrors from the list to do the next downloads.. -- Pedro Macedo From twaugh at redhat.com Wed Mar 3 18:08:12 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 18:08:12 +0000 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 1 Test Update: coreutils-5.0-34.1 Message-ID: <20040303180812.GG20266@redhat.com> Please report problems as comments to this bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117310. If there are no problems by Mon 8th March this will become a final update. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-091 2004-03-03 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : coreutils Version : 5.0 Release : 34.1 Summary : The GNU core utilities: a set of tools commonly used in shell scripts Description : These are the GNU core utilities. This package is the combination of the old GNU fileutils, sh-utils, and textutils packages. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: An updated coreutils package is available fixing an issue in the ls(1) utility, described at: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0853 Note that this vulnerability affects Internet-facing services which execute ls(1) with user-supplied input, and although wu-ftpd is one such service it is not supplied with Fedora Core 1. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Mar 03 2004 Tim Waugh 5.0-34.1 - Build for Fedora Core 1. * Thu Dec 04 2003 Tim Waugh 5.0-34.sel - Fix column widths problems in ls. * Tue Dec 02 2003 Tim Waugh 5.0-33.sel - Speed up md5sum by disabling speed-up asm. * Wed Nov 19 2003 Dan Walsh 5.0-32.sel - Try again * Wed Nov 19 2003 Dan Walsh 5.0-31.sel - Fix move on non SELinux kernels * Fri Nov 14 2003 Tim Waugh 5.0-30.sel - Fixed useless acl dependencies (bug #106141). * Fri Oct 24 2003 Dan Walsh 5.0-29.sel - Fix id -Z * Tue Oct 21 2003 Dan Walsh 5.0-28.sel - Turn on SELinux - Fix chcon error handling * Wed Oct 15 2003 Dan Walsh 5.0-28 - Turn off SELinux * Mon Oct 13 2003 Dan Walsh 5.0-27.sel - Turn on SELinux * Mon Oct 13 2003 Dan Walsh 5.0-27 - Turn off SELinux * Mon Oct 13 2003 Dan Walsh 5.0-26.sel - Turn on SELinux --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ f557b0ae7936a8780042c97c776261bf SRPMS/coreutils-5.0-34.1.src.rpm be0f058595154ee6a0a50350cee6b508 i386/coreutils-5.0-34.1.i386.rpm d3da5d6577e6702031f31df04c39341d i386/debug/coreutils-debuginfo-5.0-34.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From czar at czarc.net Wed Mar 3 19:11:38 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 14:11:38 -0500 Subject: x86_64 Branch of the 1.90 Tree In-Reply-To: <58626.199.74.155.50.1078331760.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> <58626.199.74.155.50.1078331760.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> Message-ID: <200403031411.38829.czar@czarc.net> On Wednesday 03 March 2004 11:36, lewt at warcry.com wrote: > I've never done a net install.. anyone know a good writeup? Take a look at the only (or the docs cdrom) for Red Hat Linux 9. There is info there about doing nfs/ftp/http network installs. A couple of words of caution ... 1. Doing a network install directly from download.fedora.redhat.com or even many of the mirrors may have problems such as network timeout since many of these servers are very busy. However, downloading everything from Fedora tree (base and RPMS) to a local system which is used as your nfs/ftp/http server should not suffer from these problems. BTW, you will need to burn a cdrom with the images/boot.iso to have boot media. You then specify "linux askmethod" at bootup and select the appropriate type of install. 2. I have download recent copies of of the development tree from i386 have not been very successful as far as installation goes. While individual packages in the tree may be just fine and the configuration part of the install is also fine, I have not been able to actually install packages due to what appears to be selinux problems [the install just dies when it goes to install]. The selinux related stuff seems to be in a state of flux and may not really work until much closer to FC2-Test2 time. I have not put in a bugzilla report on this since the Red Hat developers seem to be very busy trying to get selinux in a useable state. Hopefull, if someone is able to actually do a network install they will post a message indicating success ... if that occurs, I will give it another try. -- Gene From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Mar 3 19:14:25 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 14:14:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: up2date ..not fetching headers for kdelibs-3.2.0-1.4 In-Reply-To: <1078336943.17820.5.camel@vodka.crc.dcc.ufmg.br> References: <40460BDA.2020005@precisiondrive.com> <20040303185423.5be362a9.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> <1078336943.17820.5.camel@vodka.crc.dcc.ufmg.br> Message-ID: <3995.12.29.16.103.1078341265.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Pedro Fernandes Macedo said: > On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 14:54, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> Then choose a mirror. >> > > If he's using FC2 t1 , choosing a mirror shouldn't be necessary , as > up2date downloads the mirror-list from redhat and chooses one of the > mirrors from the list to do the next downloads.. IIRC there are only 3 servers on that list: 1) The main overloaded server 2) mirrors.kernel.org, which is having trouble syncing 3) another one (duke?) So choosing a different mirror can help tremendously. -- William Hooper From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 19:39:15 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:39:15 -0500 Subject: linux-2.6.3-1.118 reiserfs FAILURE Message-ID: I just tried to reboot into linux-2.6.3-1.118. I have reiser root on lvm2. It fails, saying the superblock is corrupt! I rebooted to linux-2.6.1-1.65 (the last that I know works), and it is fine. From zachw at termdex.com Wed Mar 3 22:57:21 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:57:21 -0500 Subject: yum update runtime error Message-ID: <1078354641.2221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Is there a Bugzilla case for this? [root at localhost root]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders mi = cachedb.dbMatch() UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment [root at localhost root]# rpm -q yum yum-2.0.5.20040229-1 Zach From bart.martens at chello.be Wed Mar 3 23:46:47 2004 From: bart.martens at chello.be (Bart Martens) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:46:47 +0100 Subject: yum update runtime error In-Reply-To: <1078354641.2221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078354641.2221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1078357607.3736.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 23:57, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > Is there a Bugzilla case for this? > [root at localhost root]# rpm -q yum > yum-2.0.5.20040229-1 Yes, see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117290 From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Mar 3 23:52:21 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 23:52:21 +0000 Subject: CD/DVD burning - still giving problems Message-ID: <1078357939.7821.48.camel@T7.linux> Hi, If I use k3b and using the 2.6.3-1.116 kernel and with the lines /dev/ hdc=ide-cd /dev/hdd=ide-cd /dev/hdf=ide-cd selinux=0, whenever I attempt to burn either a DVD or CD, I always get the following error mkisofs returned an unknown error (code 11) Resource temporarily unavailable Please send me an email with the last output The debugging code give System ----------------------- K3b Version: 0.11 KDE Version: 3.2.0-0.4 Red Hat QT Version: 3.3.0 cdrecord ----------------------- scsidev: '/dev/hdf' devname: '/dev/hdf' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 /usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (schily - Red Hat-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.79-RH '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c 1.79 04/01/14 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). SCSI buffer size: 64512 /usr/bin/cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD- RW support code. /usr/bin/cdrecord: If you need DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD. /usr/bin/cdrecord: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a25 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J?rg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Driveropts: 'burnfree' atapi: 1 Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info : '_NEC ' Identifikation : 'DVD_RW ND-1300A ' Revision : '1.09' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Current: 0x0009 Profile: 0x001B Profile: 0x001A Profile: 0x0014 Profile: 0x0013 Profile: 0x0011 Profile: 0x0010 Profile: 0x000A Profile: 0x0009 (current) Profile: 0x0008 (current) Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1345536 = 1314 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 700 MB Total size: 804 MB (79:43.16) = 358737 sectors Lout start: 804 MB (79:45/12) = 358737 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-) (4) ATIP start of lead in: -12369 (97:17/06) ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74) Disk type: Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 69 Manufacturer: Moser Baer India Limited Manufacturer is guessed because of the orange forum embargo. The orange forum likes to get money for recent information. The information for this media may not be correct. Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 1112 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 16 in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 2 seconds. 1 seconds. 0 seconds. Operation starts. cdrecord comand: ----------------------- /usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hdf speed=16 -dao driveropts=burnfree -eject -overburn -data -tsize=358737s - mkisofs ----------------------- Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660. 358737 Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660. Using Black Eyed Peas - Elephu000.mp3 for Black Eyed Peas/Elephunk/ Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk - 04 - Hey Mama.mp3 (Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk - 03 - Let's Get Retarded.mp3) Using Black Eyed Peas - Elephu001.mp3 for Black Eyed Peas/Elephunk/ Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk - 03 - Let's Get Retarded.mp3 (Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk - 02 - Labor Day(Its A Holiday).mp3) /usr/bin/mkisofs: Resource temporarily unavailable. cannot fwrite 2048*1 mkisofs comand: ----------------------- /usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -V MP3s -volset -A K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.9 (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -P -p K3b - Version 0.9 -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/ kde-paul/k3bDNug8b.tmp -R -hide-list /tmp/kde-paul/k3botqTfb.tmp -J - joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-paul/k3b4rfaAb.tmp -udf -U -hide- joliet-trans-tbl -iso-level 2 -input-charset iso8859-15 -path-list /tmp/ kde-paul/k3bxQk5Ia.tmp I can create the image to disc, but not burn - not even if I use cdrecord directly. Can anyone suggest a solution? I need to get my burners working again. TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From steve at rueb.com Thu Mar 4 00:18:16 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 18:18:16 -0600 Subject: Nautilus won't burn iso's anymore? Message-ID: <404675C8.8030407@rueb.com> I used to be able to right click on an .iso file and select write to CD. I don't have that option anymore. Is this another wonderful improvement of the new "spatial" nautilus? I'm running current rawhide. -Steve From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Mar 4 00:33:45 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:33:45 +0000 Subject: Nautilus won't burn iso's anymore? In-Reply-To: <404675C8.8030407@rueb.com> References: <404675C8.8030407@rueb.com> Message-ID: <1078360425.7821.51.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > I used to be able to right click on an .iso file and select write to > CD. I don't have that option anymore. Is this another wonderful > improvement of the new "spatial" nautilus? What have you got in grub.conf to set up the CDs? For the 2.6.3 kernels, you need to replace /dev/hdc=ide-scsi with /dev/hdc=ide-cd (etc). No idea if it will even work then. CD/DVD burning under FC2T1 seems well cabbaged! But hey, at least it ain't debian ;-p TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here should be fine. My first question is why does it alway die horribly on the first download at email number 12 and then work after that (usually) and why is it so bloody slow? 600 messages takes well over 45 minutes to download on a UK broadband connection (512K line) and gnome-system- monitor shows it hogging upto 99% CPU time. I have the internal spam trap killed and am only using SA 2.63. Sylpheed sucks down the same number of emails in under 5 mins (not checked using SA though - not sure how to set that up) TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Thu Mar 4 00:54:03 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 19:54:03 -0500 Subject: CD/DVD burning - still giving problems - k3b In-Reply-To: <1078357939.7821.48.camel@T7.linux> References: <1078357939.7821.48.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <40467E2B.9030008@insight.rr.com> Paul wrote: > Hi, > > If I use k3b and using the 2.6.3-1.116 kernel and with the lines /dev/ > hdc=ide-cd /dev/hdd=ide-cd /dev/hdf=ide-cd selinux=0, whenever I attempt > to burn either a DVD or CD, I always get the following error > > mkisofs returned an unknown error (code 11) > Resource temporarily unavailable > Please send me an email with the last output > > The debugging code give > > System > ----------------------- > K3b Version: 0.11 > KDE Version: 3.2.0-0.4 Red Hat > QT Version: 3.3.0 > > cdrecord > ----------------------- > scsidev: '/dev/hdf' > devname: '/dev/hdf' > scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 > Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. > Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 I have a cdrom that gave me the -2 for the three parameters that you have above. My cd reader/writer is an Acer brand recorder. The whole CDROM burner issue is really inconsistent and seems to act differenlty with different hardware. Anyway, I was able to burn CDs successfully with leaving out the hdd=ide-scsi parameter with the 2.4 kernel and now I can burn CDs correctly with the 2.4 kernel and with the ide-scsi option in the kernel. Now, with the 2.6 kernel, I have one installation that is an upgrade from FC1 to development and I burned the last CDROM with it with almost what is in your grub option. I did not use the /dev/hx device but simply the "hdx=ide-cd" for my cd burner and for my dvd burner. I was able to blank a rewritable disk and then burn the disc successfully. On my other system that is a development only installaton that was originally setup in early January (ftp install). I was not able to burn the iso files to disk and decided to rebot into the Fedora Core 1 version to burn CDROMS for test 1. ------ Now after looking at your problem with burning CDRs or DVDs. I think that you might need to toy around with removing the ide-cd parameters from the grub file and trying to burn without the entries. (even if they might not show in /etc/fstab w/ the parameters missing) Another thing that is helpful is to get information about what kudzu changed your /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom1 symlinks to. You can find out this information with "ls -la /dev/cd*" or a similar command. I have only tried out k3b once and know very little about the application. I added k3b reference in the subject line to que others to this application and possible help. I was wondering if your problem is with the mp3 decoder or a similar problem. I never attempted burning audio discs with the 2.6 kernel to date. Are you able to burn iso images to disc? If you are able to burn iso files or create file discs, the focus should be on the mp3 decoder. good luck and maybe trying one of the other gui front end cd burning programs might help to isolate the problem. sometimes xcdroast works better than gtoaster and other times it is the other way around. Jim From coleman at nitroy.com Thu Mar 4 01:18:37 2004 From: coleman at nitroy.com (Coleman Nitroy) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:18:37 -0500 Subject: USB Mouse and Net Message-ID: Just did an upgrade to core 2 test 1, and my USB mouse does work. Kudzu said it detected a PS/2 Mouse on first boot... I was thinking odd. I tried to modprobe hid.. and I get "Fatal: Mouse Module not found" and "Fatal: Keyboard Module not found" or something to that degree. Will try building my own kernel. Also for my net, it does something really weird.. I can resolve host names.. i.e. ping google.com works... BUT links google.com does not... I am thinking some sort of proxy got setup maybe? I can't do any http, or ftp to anything outside of my local net. Ideas? --- Coleman Nitroy coleman at nitroy.com nitroy.com/cole From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Thu Mar 4 01:52:30 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 20:52:30 -0500 Subject: ess soundcard not detected In-Reply-To: <404604C8.2020708@precisiondrive.com> References: <404604C8.2020708@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <40468BDE.1080006@insight.rr.com> I believe that there is a typo in kudzu that references your soundcard incorrectly. The numbers don't match. Check bugzilla and see if there is a fix for the typo or if your card is detected correctly after a full upgrade. FC2 will be using the alsa sound drivers. This is different than all of the prior releases that you mentioned. OSS drivers were purposefully disabled in the kernel to clean up problems with alsa drivers and a bug report should be filed, if one does not already exist. .02 Jim Dave Waller wrote: > I have a compaq deskpro with a built-in ess 1869 soundcard and it worked > just fine in RH7, 8, 9 and Fedora Core 1, but it now does not work. > > Their are several sound modules loaded > ide_cd 36100 0 - Live 0xd89a3000 > snd_mixer_oss 17024 0 - Live 0xd894e000 > snd 53476 1 snd_mixer_oss, Live 0xd89b5000 > soundcore 9952 1 snd, Live 0xd8976000 > ipv6 233856 24 - Live 0xd8a40000 > lp 11884 0 - Live 0xd8972000 > autofs 20096 0 - Live 0xd886c000 > e100 38660 0 - Live 0xd8998000 > mii 4864 1 e100, Live 0xd8869000 > ohci1394 38296 0 - Live 0xd892e000 > ieee1394 299444 1 ohci1394, Live 0xd89f5000 > floppy 58928 0 - Live 0xd8988000 > sg 33440 0 - Live 0xd8944000 > sd_mod 15392 0 - Live 0xd8912000 > st 36380 0 - Live 0xd893a000 > sr_mod 16292 0 - Live 0xd890d000 > scsi_mod 114876 4 sg,sd_mod,st,sr_mod, Live 0xd8954000 > cdrom 33564 2 ide_cd,sr_mod, Live 0xd8924000 > parport_pc 35244 1 - Live 0xd891a000 > parport 44648 2 lp,parport_pc, Live 0xd8830000 > microcode 6688 0 - Live 0xd882d000 > hid 53396 0 - Live 0xd885a000 > uhci_hcd 38172 0 - Live 0xd884f000 > usbcore 107316 4 hid,uhci_hcd, Live 0xd8890000 > ext3 115240 3 - Live 0xd8872000 > jbd 72472 1 ext3, Live 0xd883c000 > > Dave Waller > > From notting at redhat.com Thu Mar 4 04:08:01 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 23:08:01 -0500 Subject: Persistent device naming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040304040800.GB31986@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Neal D. Becker (ndbecker2 at verizon.net) said: > What package should I use for persistent device naming? udev (in FC2) Bill From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Thu Mar 4 04:29:42 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 23:29:42 -0500 Subject: package installation Message-ID: Iwas able to left click on a package to install on FC1 but on FC2T1 doing the same process I got no result or error message. I would like to be able to install samba-swat and webmin on my test box but luck in doing so From zboszor at freemail.hu Thu Mar 4 07:47:51 2004 From: zboszor at freemail.hu (Boszormenyi Zoltan) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 08:47:51 +0100 Subject: x86_64 Branch of the 1.90 Tree In-Reply-To: <58626.199.74.155.50.1078331760.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> <58626.199.74.155.50.1078331760.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> Message-ID: <4046DF27.1010401@freemail.hu> lewt at warcry.com ?rta: > I've never done a net install.. anyone know a good writeup? > > Thanks Here's what I did for FC1 in a nutshell: 1. Download the whole tree (not the iso files) into a directory. I used the following: rsync -avr rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/1/i386/os/ \ /home//fc1-root 2. Export this directory for the local clients by NFS/FTP/HTTP (the method by which you want to install). I used NFS. 3. Make sure you have dhcp and tftp-server installed. Set them up correctly. I have this in /etc/dhcpd.conf: ddns-update-style interim; ignore client-updates; subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { authoritative; allow booting; allow bootp; # --- default gateway option routers 192.168.0.254; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option domain-name "localdomain"; option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.254; option time-offset -18000; # Eastern Standard Time range dynamic-bootp 192.168.0.128 192.168.0.191; default-lease-time 21600; max-lease-time 43200; filename "linux-install/pxelinux.0"; host ns { next-server 192.168.0.254; hardware ethernet 00:50:BF:7D:4E:F4; fixed-address 192.168.0.254; } } It is important that you have the internal subnet explicitely described (and only that), otherwise dhcpd will listen and serve (or try to serve) addresses on every ethernet. My ADSL provider does not like that. :-) My /etc/xinetd.d/tftp is this, I don't remember whether I made any changes to it: # default: off # description: The tftp server serves files using the trivial file transfer \ # protocol. The tftp protocol is often used to boot diskless \ # workstations, download configuration files to network-aware printers, \ # and to start the installation process for some operating systems. service tftp { disable = no socket_type = dgram protocol = udp wait = yes user = root server = /usr/sbin/in.tftpd server_args = -s /tftpboot per_source = 11 cps = 100 2 flags = IPv4 } You can enable/start them with System Settings/Server Settings/Services. The "disable = no" line in /etc/xinetd.d/tftp is set by that. 4. Start System Settings/Server settings/Network Booting Service With this, you can set up both a networked installation and a network bootable system. Its help is very clear what to do. Three things worth noting: - the name (not the description) you use for the networked installation should not contain spaces. - the server address should be its local address, the default is using the address of eth0 (which was wrong in my case) - after setting it up, go (as root) into /tftpboot and make a symlink from /tftpboot/linux-install/ into /tftpboot/ so the tftp server can correctly serve the vmlinuz and initrd the clients ask. That said, this was done on an FC1, both dhcpd and tftpd runs on the same machine, serving a FC1 netinstall. I tried the same for FC2 (both for i386 and x86_64) two days after FC2test1 came out but it did not work! The i386 version did not work because the NFS install on the client wanted iso images from the exported directory (yes, I tried the "askmethod" option), the x86_64 version did not work because either the r8169 driver or the dhcp client code did not work in 64 bit mode. Both was on the same machine with an MSI K8T Neo FIS2R mainboard. I am going to test it again next week. The PXE boot rom code works correctly after upgrading to BIOS v1.2, before that I burned boot.iso into an CD-RW disk. -- Best regards, Zolt?n B?sz?rm?nyi --------------------- What did Hussein say about his knife? One in Bush worth two in the hand. From alexl at redhat.com Thu Mar 4 08:51:50 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 04 Mar 2004 09:51:50 +0100 Subject: gnome-media & sound-recorder & gnomemeeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1078390310.29202.199.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 01:40, Efthym wrote: > 2) I updated gnome-media to 2.5.4-1 today. Got this error during > installation : > > gnome-media 100 % done 10/62 > I/O warning : failed to load external entity > "/etc/gconf/schemas/gnome-volume-control.schemas" > Failed to open `/etc/gconf/schemas/gnome-volume-control.schemas': No such > file or directory > > I checked after install and there is no such file under > /etc/gconf/schemas, but the program works ok ! This should be fixed in 2.5.4-2. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a globe-trotting chivalrous paranormal investigator fleeing from a secret government programme. She's a time-travelling winged mechanic who can talk to animals. They fight crime! From alexl at redhat.com Thu Mar 4 09:05:51 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 04 Mar 2004 10:05:51 +0100 Subject: Nautilus won't burn iso's anymore? In-Reply-To: <404675C8.8030407@rueb.com> References: <404675C8.8030407@rueb.com> Message-ID: <1078391151.29202.212.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 01:18, Steve Bergman wrote: > I used to be able to right click on an .iso file and select write to > CD. I don't have that option anymore. Is this another wonderful > improvement of the new "spatial" nautilus? I just love it when people blame all sort of bugs on a new feature they don't like, trying to discredit it. Can we please avoid name calling and just report bugs as we find them? In fact, this was due to the new mime database using a new mimetype for iso files. The fix has been commited to upstream cvs. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's an ungodly zombie gentleman spy who must take medication to keep him sane. She's a plucky cat-loving schoolgirl with the power to see death. They fight crime! From linux at bytebot.net Thu Mar 4 11:20:19 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:20:19 +0800 Subject: Evolution 1.5 Q's In-Reply-To: <1078361002.7821.63.camel@T7.linux> References: <40467ABE.2080409@clara.co.uk> <1078361002.7821.63.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1078382214.3338.191.camel@hermione> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 08:43, Paul wrote: > My first question is why does it alway die horribly on the first > download at email number 12 and then work after that (usually) and why > is it so bloody slow? 600 messages takes well over 45 minutes to > download on a UK broadband connection (512K line) and gnome-system- > monitor shows it hogging upto 99% CPU time. Spamassassin is running. > I have the internal spam trap killed and am only using SA 2.63. Sylpheed > sucks down the same number of emails in under 5 mins (not checked using > SA though - not sure how to set that up) If you get Sylpheed to run even on your local SA2.63, it will take that long and eat up your CPU time. -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ http://training.bytebot.net/ - OpenOffice.org Training http://fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/ - Fedora News Updates From sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de Thu Mar 4 10:20:27 2004 From: sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de (Ralf Sigmund) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:20:27 +0100 Subject: dual opteron only one cpu in top & gnome-system-monitor? Message-ID: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> installing fedora rawhide x86_64 on a 2 cpu opteron system there is only one cpu listed in top: > top - 11:17:35 up 23:14, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.03 > Tasks: 62 total, 1 running, 61 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > Cpu(s): 0.0% us, 0.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 99.8% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, > 0.0% si > Mem: 6031516k total, 5280512k used, 751004k free, 137000k buffers > Swap: 2040244k total, 0k used, 2040244k free, 4688688k cached cpuinfo shows both cpus: [sigmund at pdw-74 /tmp]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 5 model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 stepping : 8 cpu MHz : 1994.059 cache size : 1024 KB fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips : 3940.35 TLB size : 1088 4K pages clflush size : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts ttp processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 5 model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 stepping : 8 cpu MHz : 1994.059 cache size : 1024 KB fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips : 3981.31 TLB size : 1088 4K pages clflush size : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts ttp From lewt at warcry.com Thu Mar 4 12:14:31 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 06:14:31 -0600 Subject: dual opteron only one cpu in top & gnome-system-monitor? In-Reply-To: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> References: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: <40471DA7.2040507@warcry.com> how did you get rawhide installed in the first place :) Ralf Sigmund wrote: > installing fedora rawhide x86_64 on a 2 cpu opteron system there is > only one cpu listed in top: > >> top - 11:17:35 up 23:14, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.03 >> Tasks: 62 total, 1 running, 61 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie >> Cpu(s): 0.0% us, 0.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 99.8% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, >> 0.0% si >> Mem: 6031516k total, 5280512k used, 751004k free, 137000k buffers >> Swap: 2040244k total, 0k used, 2040244k free, 4688688k cached > > > cpuinfo shows both cpus: > > [sigmund at pdw-74 /tmp]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu family : 15 > model : 5 > model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 > stepping : 8 > cpu MHz : 1994.059 > cache size : 1024 KB > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 1 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge > mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm > 3dnowext 3dnow > bogomips : 3940.35 > TLB size : 1088 4K pages > clflush size : 64 > address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual > power management: ts ttp > > processor : 1 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu family : 15 > model : 5 > model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 > stepping : 8 > cpu MHz : 1994.059 > cache size : 1024 KB > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 1 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge > mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm > 3dnowext 3dnow > bogomips : 3981.31 > TLB size : 1088 4K pages > clflush size : 64 > address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual > power management: ts ttp > > > From reader at newsguy.com Thu Mar 4 12:59:24 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 06:59:24 -0600 Subject: What workaround for TERM problems .. good for vim or good for man Message-ID: What are people doing to work around the TERM problems in core2? I've tried writting a wrapper for vim which works. From reader at newsguy.com Thu Mar 4 13:02:22 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 07:02:22 -0600 Subject: What workaround for TERM problems .. good for vim or good for man In-Reply-To: (Harry Putnam's message of "Thu, 04 Mar 2004 06:59:24 -0600") References: Message-ID: Harry Putnam writes: > What are people doing to work around the TERM problems in core2? > > I've tried writting a wrapper for vim which works. Sorry folks ... this was an old draft from some weeks ago I never finished and then decided not to send. But today I fumble fingered and hit C-c instead of C-k From akabi at speakeasy.net Thu Mar 4 13:10:34 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 08:10:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: dual opteron only one cpu in top & gnome-system-monitor? In-Reply-To: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> References: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: On Mar 4, 2004 at 11:20, Ralf Sigmund in a soothing rage wrote: >installing fedora rawhide x86_64 on a 2 cpu opteron system there is only >one cpu listed in top: Are you running an smp aware kernel or a ump one??? N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 "It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it." -- Henry Allen 08:09:59 up 91 days, 12:57, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Thu Mar 4 13:27:21 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 08:27:21 -0500 Subject: usb scanner setup Message-ID: <1078406841.3806.8.camel@family> I needed to add; usb 0x04b8 0x0110 to /etc/sane.d/epson.conf to be able to talk to my Epson 1650 scanner and; chmod 777 $(sane-find-scanner | \ grep '^found USB scanner' | \ sed -e 's?^.*libusb:?/proc/bus/usb/?' -e 's?:?/?') to /etc/rc.d/rc.local so that normal users could use it. Is there a bug here or is this the normal configuration procedure (I'm glad ESR didn't try to setup a usb scanner)? From steve at rueb.com Thu Mar 4 13:46:14 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 07:46:14 -0600 Subject: Nautilus won't burn iso's anymore? In-Reply-To: <1078391151.29202.212.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <404675C8.8030407@rueb.com> <1078391151.29202.212.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40473326.9090409@rueb.com> Alexander Larsson wrote: >On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 01:18, Steve Bergman wrote: > > >>I used to be able to right click on an .iso file and select write to >>CD. I don't have that option anymore. Is this another wonderful >>improvement of the new "spatial" nautilus? >> >> > >I just love it when people blame all sort of bugs on a new feature they >don't like, trying to discredit it. Can we please avoid name calling and >just report bugs as we find them? > Sorry. But it really wasn't too far fetched of me to think that the option to burn an iso might be considered "too confusing" to users, just like all that confusing, unnecessary stuff at the top of the old nautilus' window. -Steve From twaugh at redhat.com Thu Mar 4 14:35:05 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:35:05 +0000 Subject: usb scanner setup In-Reply-To: <1078406841.3806.8.camel@family> References: <1078406841.3806.8.camel@family> Message-ID: <20040304143505.GK20266@redhat.com> On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 08:27:21AM -0500, Sandy Pond wrote: > I needed to add; > > usb 0x04b8 0x0110 > > to /etc/sane.d/epson.conf to be able to talk to my Epson 1650 scanner > and; Does 'usb /dev/usb/scanner0' work instead? > chmod 777 $(sane-find-scanner | \ > grep '^found USB scanner' | \ > sed -e 's?^.*libusb:?/proc/bus/usb/?' -e 's?:?/?') For /dev/usb/scanner0 this step shouldn't be needed. > to /etc/rc.d/rc.local so that normal users could use it. Is there a > bug here or is this the normal configuration procedure (I'm glad ESR > didn't try to setup a usb scanner)? Unfortunately this stuff isn't set up automatically, and there is an open bug for it to be: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80613 If anyone can provide clues about how this should/could be done, that bug report would be the place to put them! Thanks, Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Note that it is used here to set additional definitions: %ifarch %{all_x86} %define all_arch_configs kernel-%{kversion}-i?86*.config %define _64bit 0 %endif So, in English, "If we're i386, i586, or i686, use the kernel-*i?86. configs, and disable the 64 bit variable." All its doing here is setting variables so that one spec file can be used for multiple arches. > > # Override generic defaults with per-arch defaults > > > > # First, architecture-specific kernels off on all other archs (ifnarch) > > %ifnarch i386 x86_64 sparc > > %define buildsource 0 > > %endif > > > > `Other' than what? > > > > Does this mean i386 x86_64 sparc are turned off? > > Or does it mean everything else is turned off? No. What this means in English is "If the arch is not i386, x86_64, or sparc, do not build the source package." The only arch that you want a kernel-source package for is one of those three, because the source is not optimized for any specific arch, only the binaries. This is why there is a kernel-source*.i386.rpm and not a kernel-source*.i686.rpm. The old conditional methods from the 2.4 kernel are no longer present in the 2.6 kernel spec. And while the spec could probably use a little bit of commenting, as a whole, its a LOT less difficult to parse than the 2.4 spec. hth, ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not to be published." -- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" From David.Estacio at sycoleman.com Thu Mar 4 15:55:59 2004 From: David.Estacio at sycoleman.com (David.Estacio at sycoleman.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:55:59 -0600 Subject: Wishfull Thinking (SPARC) Message-ID: <2D098C134168C8489C52CBFB888FE95159CB8C@HSV-MAIL.hsv.sycoleman.com> I have read the schedule posted on the Fedora Project page and it indicates that there may be a SPARC architecture version of Fedora coming down the pipe. Any news on this? Thanks David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The 2.6 kernel, well, it has some eccentricities at the moment, such as "cannot build kernel when booted into 2.6", that I'm trying to work out. I've got a good amount of packages built, but the tree is not currently installable. Nevertheless, I will get it out, even if it takes a little longer than Fedora x86*. ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not to be published." -- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Mar 4 16:33:40 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:33:40 +0000 Subject: Evolution 1.5 Q's In-Reply-To: <1078382214.3338.191.camel@hermione> References: <40467ABE.2080409@clara.co.uk> <1078361002.7821.63.camel@T7.linux> <1078382214.3338.191.camel@hermione> Message-ID: <1078418020.23404.0.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > My first question is why does it alway die horribly on the first > > download at email number 12 and then work after that (usually) and why > > is it so bloody slow? 600 messages takes well over 45 minutes to > > download on a UK broadband connection (512K line) and gnome-system- > > monitor shows it hogging upto 99% CPU time. > > Spamassassin is running. Would it make any difference if I use a self compiled version of SA or is there in inherent problem with SA 2.63? TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From michael at epm2.com Thu Mar 4 16:37:42 2004 From: michael at epm2.com (Michael Hatzel) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:37:42 -0500 Subject: 2.6.3-1.118 and X Message-ID: <1078418262.3394.1.camel@mycroftxxx.epm2.com> After upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-1.118, X will not start for me, failing saying it cannot detect my mouse, although when I run a dmesg, it shows that my PS/2 wheel mouse was in fact detected. Any ideas? Mike Hatzel From reader at newsguy.com Thu Mar 4 16:40:31 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:40:31 -0600 Subject: kernel rebuild does'nt build actual kernel In-Reply-To: <1078412552.2373.8.camel@zorak> (Tom Callaway's message of "Thu, 04 Mar 2004 09:02:32 -0600") References: <1078412552.2373.8.camel@zorak> Message-ID: "Tom 'spot' Callaway" writes: > No. What this means in English is "If the arch is not i386, x86_64, or > sparc, do not build the source package." The only arch that you want a > kernel-source package for is one of those three, because the source is > not optimized for any specific arch, only the binaries. This is why > there is a kernel-source*.i386.rpm and not a kernel-source*.i686.rpm. > > The old conditional methods from the 2.4 kernel are no longer present in > the 2.6 kernel spec. And while the spec could probably use a little bit > of commenting, as a whole, its a LOT less difficult to parse than the > 2.4 spec. Thanks for the explanations... but I still don't see how to control the build from the spec file. For example: Don't build the debug rpms only build i686 don't build an src file do build a src file etc. From David.Estacio at sycoleman.com Thu Mar 4 16:38:22 2004 From: David.Estacio at sycoleman.com (David.Estacio at sycoleman.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 10:38:22 -0600 Subject: Wishfull Thinking (SPARC) Message-ID: <2D098C134168C8489C52CBFB888FE95159CBD5@HSV-MAIL.hsv.sycoleman.com> Thanks for the information Spot. Trying to figure a migration path for a bunch of SPARC systems, and I'm gathering information on OS's Thanks again for the info. David -----Original Message----- From: Tom 'spot' Callaway [mailto:tcallawa at redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:30 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Wishfull Thinking (SPARC) On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 09:55 -0600, David.Estacio at sycoleman.com wrote: > I have read the schedule posted on the Fedora Project page and it > indicates that there may be a SPARC architecture version of Fedora > coming down the pipe. Any news on this? Well, so far, so good. The major errors so far are: PIE support does not work on sparc at the moment. This means that every Fedora package with PIE embedded into it has to be conditionalized for sparc. Building NPTL for sparcv9 requires glibc-kernheaders to be 2.6, not 2.4. This also requires patching of things like util-linux and rhpl. The 2.6 kernel, well, it has some eccentricities at the moment, such as "cannot build kernel when booted into 2.6", that I'm trying to work out. I've got a good amount of packages built, but the tree is not currently installable. Nevertheless, I will get it out, even if it takes a little longer than Fedora x86*. ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not to be published." -- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From jakub at redhat.com Thu Mar 4 16:43:57 2004 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:43:57 -0500 Subject: Wishfull Thinking (SPARC) In-Reply-To: <1078417788.2373.23.camel@zorak> References: <2D098C134168C8489C52CBFB888FE95159CB8C@HSV-MAIL.hsv.sycoleman.com> <1078417788.2373.23.camel@zorak> Message-ID: <20040304164357.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 10:29:48AM -0600, Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 09:55 -0600, David.Estacio at sycoleman.com wrote: > > > I have read the schedule posted on the Fedora Project page and it > > indicates that there may be a SPARC architecture version of Fedora > > coming down the pipe. Any news on this? > > Well, so far, so good. The major errors so far are: > > PIE support does not work on sparc at the moment. This means that every > Fedora package with PIE embedded into it has to be conditionalized for > sparc. Yeah, on my todo list. > Building NPTL for sparcv9 requires glibc-kernheaders to be 2.6, not 2.4. > This also requires patching of things like util-linux and rhpl. Not true. It can use the same glibc-kernheaders as all other Fedora/RHEL3 arches. The thing is just that asm-sparc*/unistd.h needs to be updated with the newly added syscalls, nothing else. Jakub From sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de Thu Mar 4 16:47:06 2004 From: sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de (Ralf Sigmund) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:47:06 +0100 Subject: dual opteron only one cpu in top & gnome-system-monitor? In-Reply-To: References: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: <40475D8A.108@ipk-gatersleben.de> ne... wrote: >On Mar 4, 2004 at 11:20, Ralf Sigmund in a soothing rage wrote: > > > >>installing fedora rawhide x86_64 on a 2 cpu opteron system there is only >>one cpu listed in top: >> >> >Are you running an smp aware kernel or a ump one??? > >N.Emile... > > [sigmund at pdw-74 ~]$ uname -a Linux pdw-24.ipk-gatersleben.de 2.6.3-1.118smp #1 SMP Mon Mar 1 17:59:57 EST 2004 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [sigmund at pdw-74 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-smp-2.6.3-1.118 kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.121 kernel-source-2.6.3-1.118 kernel-2.6.3-1.118 uname shows the smp kernel is running. Ralf From tcallawa at redhat.com Thu Mar 4 16:47:05 2004 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom 'spot' Callaway) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:47:05 -0600 Subject: Wishfull Thinking (SPARC) In-Reply-To: <20040304164357.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <2D098C134168C8489C52CBFB888FE95159CB8C@HSV-MAIL.hsv.sycoleman.com> <1078417788.2373.23.camel@zorak> <20040304164357.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1078418825.2373.26.camel@zorak> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 11:43 -0500, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > Building NPTL for sparcv9 requires glibc-kernheaders to be 2.6, not 2.4. > > This also requires patching of things like util-linux and rhpl. > > Not true. It can use the same glibc-kernheaders as all other Fedora/RHEL3 > arches. The thing is just that asm-sparc*/unistd.h needs to be updated > with the newly added syscalls, nothing else. Ah. OK. Still, I don't see any reason to keep using the 2.4 headers if 2.6 is the direction going forward, especially since the only things affected so far have been glibc (duh), util-linux, and rhpl. In fact, Arjan said at one point that he intended to move the headers to 2.6. :) ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not to be published." -- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" From tcallawa at redhat.com Thu Mar 4 16:54:36 2004 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom 'spot' Callaway) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:54:36 -0600 Subject: kernel rebuild does'nt build actual kernel In-Reply-To: References: <1078412552.2373.8.camel@zorak> Message-ID: <1078419275.2373.35.camel@zorak> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 10:40 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > Thanks for the explanations... but I still don't see how to control > the build from the spec file. For example: > > Don't build the debug rpms Debug rpms are done systemwide for all packages that aren't noarch. This isn't kernel specific. However, if you really want to disable the debuginfo, adding this line to the spec will do it: %define __debug_package 0 Be aware that this will likely inflate the size of the packages, since debuginfo is not being stripped and put in its own rpm package. > only build i686 rpmbuild -bb --target i686 kernel-2.6.spec > don't build an src file The only arches that build kernel-source are i386, x86_64, and sparc. At least for x86, thats about all it builds when the target is i386. So, presuming you're i686 or higher, doing the above commandline will not build kernel-source (or kernel*.src.rpm for that matter). > do build a src file rpmbuild -bb --target i386 kernel-2.6.spec (will make kernel-source) rpmbuild -bs kernel-2.6.spec (will make kernel-*.src.rpm) ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not to be published." -- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" From akabi at speakeasy.net Thu Mar 4 17:02:52 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:02:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: dual opteron only one cpu in top & gnome-system-monitor? In-Reply-To: <40475D8A.108@ipk-gatersleben.de> References: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> <40475D8A.108@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: On Mar 4, 2004 at 17:47, Ralf Sigmund in a soothing rage wrote: >ne... wrote: > >>On Mar 4, 2004 at 11:20, Ralf Sigmund in a soothing rage wrote: >> >> >> >>>installing fedora rawhide x86_64 on a 2 cpu opteron system there is only >>>one cpu listed in top: >>> >>> >>Are you running an smp aware kernel or a ump one??? >> >[sigmund at pdw-74 ~]$ uname -a >Linux pdw-24.ipk-gatersleben.de 2.6.3-1.118smp #1 SMP Mon Mar 1 17:59:57 >EST 2004 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux >[sigmund at pdw-74 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep kernel >kernel-smp-2.6.3-1.118 >kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.121 >kernel-source-2.6.3-1.118 >kernel-2.6.3-1.118 > >uname shows the smp kernel is running. It seems your procps may not have been built with smp support. I would try rebuilding it and see it that helps. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Truth will out this morning. (Which may really mess things up.) 11:59:31 up 91 days, 16:46, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From reader at newsguy.com Thu Mar 4 17:26:00 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:26:00 -0600 Subject: kernel rebuild does'nt build actual kernel In-Reply-To: <1078419275.2373.35.camel@zorak> (Tom Callaway's message of "Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:54:36 -0600") References: <1078412552.2373.8.camel@zorak> <1078419275.2373.35.camel@zorak> Message-ID: "Tom 'spot' Callaway" writes: > On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 10:40 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Thanks for the explanations... but I still don't see how to control >> the build from the spec file. For example: Thanks again.. all info you've supplied is usefull, however maybe I wasnt clear ... the key words above were `FROM THE SPEC FILE'. >> Don't build the debug rpms > > Debug rpms are done systemwide for all packages that aren't noarch. This > isn't kernel specific. However, if you really want to disable the > debuginfo, adding this line to the spec will do it: > > %define __debug_package 0 Ok, this kind of thing used to be right at the top of a spec file before 2.6.. Where can I get a list of such items ... they don't appear in spec files anymore? 2.4 *.spec: Summary: The Linux kernel (the core of the Linux operating system) # What parts do we want to build? We must build at least one kernel. # These are the kernels that are built IF the architecture allows and # no contrary --with/--without arguments are given on the command line. %define buildup 1 %define buildsmp 1 %define buildBOOT 1 %define buildenterprise 1 %define builddebug 1 %define buildjensen 0 %define buildtape 1 %define buildBOOTtape 1 [...] 2.6 *.spec Summary: The Linux kernel (the core of the Linux operating system) # What parts do we want to build? We must build at least one kernel. # These are the kernels that are built IF the architecture allows it. %define buildup 1 %define buildsmp 1 %define buildsource 1 %define usegcc32 0 [...] From PMehta at soa.org Thu Mar 4 17:26:39 2004 From: PMehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:26:39 -0600 Subject: 2.6.3-1.118 and X Message-ID: Same thing happened to me. But the X Server then lets you fix the problem. Just choose a generic PS/2 or in my case a USB mouse... - Pratik >>> michael at epm2.com 3/4/2004 10:37:42 AM >>> After upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-1.118, X will not start for me, failing saying it cannot detect my mouse, although when I run a dmesg, it shows that my PS/2 wheel mouse was in fact detected. Any ideas? Mike Hatzel -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Thu Mar 4 17:31:44 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:31:44 -0600 Subject: ess soundcard not detected In-Reply-To: <40468BDE.1080006@insight.rr.com> References: <404604C8.2020708@precisiondrive.com> <40468BDE.1080006@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <40476800.2080304@precisiondrive.com> I checked bugzilla and there are a few entries that hit but none current, or none that match. Do you know what I should look for in the kudzu for the bug, I can try to fix it. Dave Jim Cornette wrote: > I believe that there is a typo in kudzu that references your soundcard > incorrectly. The numbers don't match. > > Check bugzilla and see if there is a fix for the typo or if your card > is detected correctly after a full upgrade. > > FC2 will be using the alsa sound drivers. This is different than all > of the prior releases that you mentioned. OSS drivers were > purposefully disabled in the kernel to clean up problems with alsa > drivers and a bug report should be filed, if one does not already exist. > > .02 > > Jim > > Dave Waller wrote: > >> I have a compaq deskpro with a built-in ess 1869 soundcard and it >> worked just fine in RH7, 8, 9 and Fedora Core 1, but it now does not >> work. >> >> Their are several sound modules loaded >> ide_cd 36100 0 - Live 0xd89a3000 >> snd_mixer_oss 17024 0 - Live 0xd894e000 >> snd 53476 1 snd_mixer_oss, Live 0xd89b5000 >> soundcore 9952 1 snd, Live 0xd8976000 >> ipv6 233856 24 - Live 0xd8a40000 >> lp 11884 0 - Live 0xd8972000 >> autofs 20096 0 - Live 0xd886c000 >> e100 38660 0 - Live 0xd8998000 >> mii 4864 1 e100, Live 0xd8869000 >> ohci1394 38296 0 - Live 0xd892e000 >> ieee1394 299444 1 ohci1394, Live 0xd89f5000 >> floppy 58928 0 - Live 0xd8988000 >> sg 33440 0 - Live 0xd8944000 >> sd_mod 15392 0 - Live 0xd8912000 >> st 36380 0 - Live 0xd893a000 >> sr_mod 16292 0 - Live 0xd890d000 >> scsi_mod 114876 4 sg,sd_mod,st,sr_mod, Live 0xd8954000 >> cdrom 33564 2 ide_cd,sr_mod, Live 0xd8924000 >> parport_pc 35244 1 - Live 0xd891a000 >> parport 44648 2 lp,parport_pc, Live 0xd8830000 >> microcode 6688 0 - Live 0xd882d000 >> hid 53396 0 - Live 0xd885a000 >> uhci_hcd 38172 0 - Live 0xd884f000 >> usbcore 107316 4 hid,uhci_hcd, Live 0xd8890000 >> ext3 115240 3 - Live 0xd8872000 >> jbd 72472 1 ext3, Live 0xd883c000 >> >> Dave Waller >> >> > > From linux00 at kornet.net Thu Mar 4 17:45:21 2004 From: linux00 at kornet.net (sangu) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 02:45:21 +0900 Subject: 2.6.3-1.118 and X In-Reply-To: <1078418318248446749.0.ppp6@ppp6> References: <1078418318248446749.0.ppp6@ppp6> Message-ID: <1078422321.4183.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Please see : http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004- February/msg01084.html 2004-03-04 (?) 11:37 -0500? Michael Hatzel ???: > After upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-1.118, X will not start for me, failing > saying it cannot detect my mouse, although when I run a dmesg, it shows > that my PS/2 wheel mouse was in fact detected. Any ideas? > > Mike Hatzel > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Thu Mar 4 18:14:22 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 13:14:22 -0500 Subject: usb scanner setup In-Reply-To: <20040304143505.GK20266@redhat.com> References: <1078406841.3806.8.camel@family> <20040304143505.GK20266@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1078424062.3091.11.camel@family> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 14:35 +0000, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 08:27:21AM -0500, Sandy Pond wrote: > > > I needed to add; > > > > usb 0x04b8 0x0110 > > > > to /etc/sane.d/epson.conf to be able to talk to my Epson 1650 scanner > > and; > > Does 'usb /dev/usb/scanner0' work instead? Nope. That's how I had it setup in FC1. > > > chmod 777 $(sane-find-scanner | \ > > grep '^found USB scanner' | \ > > sed -e 's?^.*libusb:?/proc/bus/usb/?' -e 's?:?/?') > > For /dev/usb/scanner0 this step shouldn't be needed. > > > to /etc/rc.d/rc.local so that normal users could use it. Is there a > > bug here or is this the normal configuration procedure (I'm glad ESR > > didn't try to setup a usb scanner)? > > Unfortunately this stuff isn't set up automatically, and there is an > open bug for it to be: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80613 > > If anyone can provide clues about how this should/could be done, that > bug report would be the place to put them! There's many bugs with the approach I took above for user permissions. I don't know what the plan is for scanner configuration with sane and kernel-2.6/libusb/udev/hotplug. Wish I knew. From alex at nadir.org.uk Thu Mar 4 18:19:58 2004 From: alex at nadir.org.uk (Alex Dennis) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 18:19:58 +0000 Subject: MIT Scheme In-Reply-To: <1078422321.4183.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078418318248446749.0.ppp6@ppp6> <1078422321.4183.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4047734E.1080204@nadir.org.uk> Will MIT Scheme work with Fedora Core 2 please? I couldn't get it to work on Core 1 but would like to use FC for everything else (I'm learning to programme with Scheme). The problem with Scheme was, I think, outlined in this message: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2003-November/msg00828.html and is linked to this bug report/updated package: http://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=823 I'm sorry this might be a dopey question but I honestly can't work out what most of the bug report means. Okay, replace 'might be' with 'is'. Thanks for any advice Alex sangu wrote: >Please see : http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004- >February/msg01084.html > > >2004-03-04 (?) 11:37 -0500? Michael Hatzel ???: > > > >>After upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-1.118, X will not start for me, failing >>saying it cannot detect my mouse, although when I run a dmesg, it shows >>that my PS/2 wheel mouse was in fact detected. Any ideas? >> >>Mike Hatzel >> >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> >> >> > > > > > From sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de Thu Mar 4 18:26:01 2004 From: sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de (Ralf Sigmund) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:26:01 +0100 Subject: dual opteron only one cpu in top & gnome-system-monitor? In-Reply-To: References: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> <40475D8A.108@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: <404774B9.3080404@ipk-gatersleben.de> installed procps-3.2.0-1.src.rpm cd to /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES untared procps-3.2.0.tar.gz cd procps-3.2.0 make make install shutdown -r now still top looks like this: > top - 19:20:45 up 3 min, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.15, 0.07 > Tasks: 56 total, 1 running, 55 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > Cpu(s): 0.3% us, 0.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 99.5% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si > Mem: 6031516k total, 196200k used, 5835316k free, 10640k buffers > Swap: 2040244k total, 0k used, 2040244k free, 113052k cached > > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND > 1421 root 17 0 28912 11m 18m S 0.3 0.2 0:01.39 X > 1491 sigmund 23 0 30736 2564 29m R 0.3 0.0 0:00.02 top > 1 root 21 0 3464 464 3296 S 0.0 0.0 0:04.84 init > 2 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 > 3 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0 > 4 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/1 > 5 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 > 6 root 13 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 > 7 root 6 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 events/1 > 8 root 10 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kblockd/0 > 9 root 10 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd/1 > 14 root 15 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 > 10 root 25 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush > 11 root 16 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush > 12 root 25 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd1 > 13 root 25 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0 > 15 root 15 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/1 but installing the source rpm also yielded the 3 patch files in /usr/sources/redhat/SOURCES: > procps-3.1.15-misc.patch procps-3.2.0 procps-selinux.patch > procps-3.1.15-nostrip.patch procps-3.2.0.tar.gz should i have applied any of theese patches? ne... wrote: >On Mar 4, 2004 at 17:47, Ralf Sigmund in a soothing rage wrote: > > > >>ne... wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Mar 4, 2004 at 11:20, Ralf Sigmund in a soothing rage wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>installing fedora rawhide x86_64 on a 2 cpu opteron system there is only >>>>one cpu listed in top: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Are you running an smp aware kernel or a ump one??? >>> >>> >>> >>[sigmund at pdw-74 ~]$ uname -a >>Linux pdw-24.ipk-gatersleben.de 2.6.3-1.118smp #1 SMP Mon Mar 1 17:59:57 >>EST 2004 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux >>[sigmund at pdw-74 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep kernel >>kernel-smp-2.6.3-1.118 >>kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.121 >>kernel-source-2.6.3-1.118 >>kernel-2.6.3-1.118 >> >>uname shows the smp kernel is running. >> >> >It seems your procps may not have been built with smp support. >I would try rebuilding it and see it that helps. > >N.Emile... > > -- Institut fu"r Pflanzengenetik und Kulturpflanzenforschung, Gatersleben Dr. Ralf Sigmund v: ++49 (0)39482 5 659 f: ++49 (0)39482 5 595 e: sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de w: http://pgrc.ipk-gatersleben.de/ From lewt at warcry.com Thu Mar 4 18:42:04 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (lewt at warcry.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:42:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: yum.conf In-Reply-To: <404774B9.3080404@ipk-gatersleben.de> References: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> <40475D8A.108@ipk-gatersleben.de> <404774B9.3080404@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: <37403.199.74.155.50.1078425724.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> Does anyone have a updated yum.conf to do updates for test1?? Thanks From tcallawa at redhat.com Thu Mar 4 19:00:14 2004 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom 'spot' Callaway) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 13:00:14 -0600 Subject: kernel rebuild does'nt build actual kernel In-Reply-To: References: <1078412552.2373.8.camel@zorak> <1078419275.2373.35.camel@zorak> Message-ID: <1078426814.2373.58.camel@zorak> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 11:26 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > Thanks again.. all info you've supplied is usefull, however maybe I > wasnt clear ... the key words above were `FROM THE SPEC FILE'. OK. There are no more BOOT, enterprise, debug, jensen, tape, or BOOTtape kernels in the 2.6 FC2 tree, just UP and SMP for for i586 and i686 (and sparc/sparc64, but thats only relevant to me right now). This means that the FC2 2.6 kernel spec can generate a grand total of four different x86 (32 bit) binary kernels. If you want to just build UP (or just SMP), you should be able to adjust the variables at the top of the 2.6 spec file, just as you could for 2.4. If you want to build for a specific arch, you need to pass it as a --target on the commandline, just as you had to do with 2.4. The only place these variables are overwritten is for the -source package, which is ONLY built for i386, because it makes no sense to have a i586/i686 version of the kernel-source package. If anything, this is easier than 2.4. ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not to be published." -- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" From cabrera at hyettemail.com Thu Mar 4 19:04:08 2004 From: cabrera at hyettemail.com (Manuel Cabrera Caballero) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:04:08 -0500 Subject: 2.6.3-1.118 and X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1078427048.1888.4.camel@sistemas.hyettemail.com> Hi Michael, I had that same problem and what I did he was the following thing: in /etc/sysconfig/gpm OPTIONS="" DEVICE="/dev/input/mice" MOUSETYPE="exps2" in /etc/X11/XF86Config Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "PS/2" # Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection finish....good look El jue, 04-03-2004 a las 11:26, -0600, Pratik Mehta escribi?: > Same thing happened to me. But the X Server then lets you fix the problem. Just choose a generic PS/2 or in my case a USB mouse... > > - Pratik > > >>> michael at epm2.com 3/4/2004 10:37:42 AM >>> > After upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-1.118, X will not start for me, failing > saying it cannot detect my mouse, although when I run a dmesg, it shows > that my PS/2 wheel mouse was in fact detected. Any ideas? > > Mike Hatzel > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Manuel Cabrera Caballero Hyette Telecommunications ICQ: 39970083 From eon at eon.za.net Thu Mar 4 20:32:26 2004 From: eon at eon.za.net (Alexander Brinkman) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:32:26 +0100 Subject: dual opteron only one cpu in top & gnome-system-monitor? In-Reply-To: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> References: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: <1078432346.10151.0.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 11:20, Ralf Sigmund wrote: > installing fedora rawhide x86_64 on a 2 cpu opteron system there is only > one cpu listed in top: Use the '1' key to show all CPU's. Regards, Alexander Brinkman. From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Thu Mar 4 19:50:16 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:50:16 -0500 Subject: usb scanner setup In-Reply-To: <1078424062.3091.11.camel@family> References: <1078406841.3806.8.camel@family> <20040304143505.GK20266@redhat.com> <1078424062.3091.11.camel@family> Message-ID: <1078429816.3167.4.camel@family> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 13:14 -0500, Sandy Pond wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 14:35 +0000, Tim Waugh wrote: > > > > Unfortunately this stuff isn't set up automatically, and there is an > > open bug for it to be: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80613 > > > > If anyone can provide clues about how this should/could be done, that > > bug report would be the place to put them! > > There's many bugs with the approach I took above for user permissions. > I don't know what the plan is for scanner configuration with sane and > kernel-2.6/libusb/udev/hotplug. Wish I knew. Well here's a LKML thread today discussing the issue of user permissions and udev. Someone more astute than I may want to get involved; http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=107836337929899&w=4 From rhally at mindspring.com Thu Mar 4 19:58:51 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:58:51 -0500 Subject: can not change display resolution Message-ID: As an normal user(not root) I pick from the menu SystemSettings=>Display and I get a query message box about attempting to run "system-config-display" asking for root password. If the user doesn't have root he can't change his display! Is this a bug? Also, when I put in the root password, config display does not start and no error is reported. Is this a bug? Richard Hally -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Any ideas? > > -- shrek-m From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Thu Mar 4 20:10:50 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:10:50 +0100 Subject: up2date fails after update Message-ID: <1078431049.3284.6.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> Hi folks, after I rebooted I realized that the up2date tray icon is missing. I found out that "rhn-applet-gui" seems to be responsible for that, so I tried to start it by hand and got this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/rhn-applet-gui", line 30, in ? import rhn_applet File "/usr/share/rhn/rhn_applet/rhn_applet.py", line 13, in ? import gnome.ui ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode When I try to run up2date I get the same error. What?s wrong? By the way, is yum an alternative for up2date or just a kind of add-on to it? This fails as well? Thanks and Regards, Chris From akabi at speakeasy.net Thu Mar 4 20:13:00 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 15:13:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: dual opteron only one cpu in top & gnome-system-monitor? In-Reply-To: <404774B9.3080404@ipk-gatersleben.de> References: <404702EB.4000706@ipk-gatersleben.de> <40475D8A.108@ipk-gatersleben.de> <404774B9.3080404@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: On Mar 4, 2004 at 19:26, Ralf Sigmund in a soothing rage wrote: >installed procps-3.2.0-1.src.rpm >cd to /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES >untared procps-3.2.0.tar.gz >cd procps-3.2.0 >make >make install >shutdown -r now All you needed was a rpmbuild --rebuild procps-3.2.0-1.src.rpm Then rpm -Uvh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/$ARCH/procps-3.2.0-1.$ARCH.rpm --oldpackage [...] >but installing the source rpm also yielded the 3 patch files in >/usr/sources/redhat/SOURCES: > >> procps-3.1.15-misc.patch procps-3.2.0 procps-selinux.patch >> procps-3.1.15-nostrip.patch procps-3.2.0.tar.gz > > >should i have applied any of theese patches? Using the rpmbuild command above applies all the patches for you. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 The program isn't debugged until the last user is dead. 15:08:56 up 91 days, 19:56, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu Mar 4 20:13:04 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:13:04 +0100 Subject: can not change display resolution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40478DD0.1020205@gmx.de> Richard Hally wrote: >As an normal user(not root) I pick from the menu SystemSettings=>Display and >I get a query message box about attempting to run "system-config-display" >asking for root password. If the user doesn't have root he can't change his >display! Is this a bug? > > system-setttigs are global-settings, only root can change try it under preferences / display here are the user-defined settings, no root password is needed works here >Also, when I put in the root password, config display does not start and no >error is reported. Is this a bug? > > unfortunatey i have a empty system-seetings what happens as user $ system-config-display -- shrek-m From christophe_bonnel at yahoo.fr Thu Mar 4 20:26:17 2004 From: christophe_bonnel at yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?christophe=20BONNEL?=) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:26:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: Pb with fedora distrib and compaq NC4000 laptop (Erich Hoover) In-Reply-To: <20040303160804.8784.85579.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040304202617.99005.qmail@web11705.mail.yahoo.com> For the soundcard, the "sound card detection tool does not work, it does not detect trident modules although it is (i see the module if i use le lsmod command) For the usb pb it is the same problem, my module.conf file contain the line "alias usb-controller uhci-hcd" but it is not enough, when i plug my usb dvd-rom it is not detected (it was working with the 2.4 kernel) I wonder how it is possible to know with which parameters the kernel was compiled, i use the kernel delivered by a rpm from the fedora site. Thanks in advance 3. Re: Pb with fedora distrib and compaq NC4000 laptop (Erich Hoover) Message: 3 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 18:49:43 -0700 From: Erich Hoover To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Pb with fedora distrib and compaq NC4000 laptop Reply-To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060802070802090905000200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by slate.Mines.EDU id i231ni0C206076 I don't know about ACPI, but sound and USB should be fixable. For Sound: Run the tool in "System Settings" called "Soundcard Detection", it should= be able to find your soundcard and configure it. For USB: If you can't use ANY USB devices then the host controller isn't getting l= oaded properly, try adding the line: alias usb-controller uhci-hcd to the file '/etc/modprobe.conf' in order to have the system load the hos= t controller. Hope that helps! >Hello, i am quite a newbie on linux and i try to install linux (fedora >core V1) on my compaq NC4000 laptop with kernel 2.4. > >It was quite perfect except that the network card did'nt work and froze >the laptop. So i decide to upgrade the kernel to 2.6 (a friend of mine >said it could fix my problem). He was right, my netword card is ok, but >now neither sound, acpi and usb cdrom or key work.=20 > >I need help, i try to execute some how to to install my sound card >manually but without success. > >Thanks in advance. > > > >=09 > >=09 > =09 >Yahoo! Mail : votre e-mail personnel et gratuit qui vous suit partout !=20 >Cr=E9ez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ > >Dialoguez en direct avec vos amis gr=E2ce =E0 Yahoo! 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Is this a bug? > > system-setttigs are global-settings, only root can change In the "desktop usage" case, I guess the desktop user will have access to root. Is this a good idea? try it under preferences / display here are the user-defined settings, no root password is needed works here thanks for the reminder! Now the problem is that the resolution will not stay at that setting after a logging out and back in(with the "save current setup" checked) and the "Make default for this computer" checked as well. >Also, when I put in the root password, config display does not start and no >error is reported. Is this a bug? > > unfortunatey i have a empty system-seetings what happens as user $ system-config-display The same query box asking for root comes up and when I give it the root password, I get the error "Could not set exec context to user_u:sysadm_r:sysadm_t". (I am running SELinux in permissive mode). If I su - then do system-config-display it works. But that is a lot to expect in the "Desktop usage" case. THT Richard From richy at gamestar-premium.de Thu Mar 4 20:52:06 2004 From: richy at gamestar-premium.de (richy at gamestar-premium.de) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:52:06 +0100 Subject: up2date fails after update In-Reply-To: <1078431049.3284.6.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> References: <1078431049.3284.6.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> Message-ID: <404796F6.2050503@gamestar-premium.de> In my Opinion up2date is only the GUI for Yum. But you can use APT-get from http://freshrpms.net to update and install programs (xine, gkrellm , gnome-alsamixer etc.pp) Richy From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Mar 4 21:01:02 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:01:02 -0500 Subject: up2date fails after update In-Reply-To: <404796F6.2050503@gamestar-premium.de> References: <1078431049.3284.6.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> <404796F6.2050503@gamestar-premium.de> Message-ID: <1078434062.18095.1.camel@binkley> > In my Opinion up2date is only the GUI for Yum. Not true. up2date and yum share some code but not a huge amount. Moreover up2date is important to red hat for rhn. > But you can use APT-get from http://freshrpms.net > to update and install programs (xine, gkrellm , gnome-alsamixer etc.pp) you can use yum to do this too, You can also use up2date to do this. -sv From PMehta at soa.org Thu Mar 4 21:16:38 2004 From: PMehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:16:38 -0600 Subject: Dual Head Problem FC2test1 Message-ID: Hi, I have an ATI M9 card which can use screen spanning for two monitors, i know that because it works well when in boot into XP, but for FC2test1, it seems to be working but it does not span for the two monitors even though i have the options checked for "Dual Head" and "Screen Spanning". What happens is that my laptop screen and the other monitor that i have attached show the same thing. So if i open mozilla then i cannot move the window into the other monitor. any help is appreciated.... - Pratik From bartk at clara.co.uk Thu Mar 4 21:34:54 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:34:54 +0000 Subject: 1.5 Evolution problems Message-ID: <4047A0FE.1090407@clara.co.uk> Well, I managed to install evolution just yesterday evening and had a quick look around, setup pop e-mail account and was upset that "front page" or rather "summary page" was gone ( one of my favourites ) closed the program and went to bed. Today Evolution refuses to start . while trying to start it form console I got "segmentation fault" and nothing more. since I do not have yum running an overnight update proces I can't even start to think what might be the problem. -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From pertusus at free.fr Thu Mar 4 20:48:58 2004 From: pertusus at free.fr (Dumas Patrice) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:48:58 +0100 Subject: building external modules Message-ID: <20040304204858.GA2091@free.fr> Hi, Since the kernel is 2.6, I have trouble compiling and installing an external module. I could only compile the driver as root. And before I compile it I had to do the following as root: * edit the Makefile in /usr/src/kernel-2.6.... and remove 'custom' from the EXTRAVERSION. Otherwise it isn't installed at the right place. * run make oldconfig make prepare If I try to compile as a user, I get [pat at localhost driver]$ make make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=/home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver modules make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/fc2t/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-1.118' HOSTCC scripts/modpost.o cc1 : Permission non accord?e : ouverture du fichier de d?pendances scripts/.modpost.o.d make[2]: *** [scripts/modpost.o] Erreur 1 make[1]: *** [scripts] Erreur 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/fc2t/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-1.118' make: *** [eagle-usb.ko] Erreur 2 If I can compile the driver, as root, I get: [root at localhost driver]# make make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=/home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver modules make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/fc2t/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-1.118' HOSTCC scripts/modpost.o HOSTLD scripts/modpost *** Warning: Overriding SUBDIRS on the command line can cause *** inconsistencies make[2]: ? arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s ? est ? jour. CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/eu_main.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/Boot.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/eu_utils.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/Pipes.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/Me.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/Sm.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/eu_msg.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/Dsp.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/Mpoa.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/Uni.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/Sar.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/Oam.o CC [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/eu_eth.o LD [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/eagle-usb.o Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST CC /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/eagle-usb.mod.o LD [M] /home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver/eagle-usb.ko make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/fc2t/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-1.118' Well, it works. It is in line with what I have seen on some docs about the building of modules, but I am not very comfortable with that. First I don't like to build as root and second I don't know what to do for rpm building. What should I do to build modules as non root, and build rpms for the module ? I searched for informations on that subject but I haven't found anything. Pat From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Thu Mar 4 21:48:23 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:48:23 +0100 Subject: up2date fails after update In-Reply-To: <404796F6.2050503@gamestar-premium.de> References: <1078431049.3284.6.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> <404796F6.2050503@gamestar-premium.de> Message-ID: <1078436902.20312.361.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Do, den 04.03.2004 schrieb richy at gamestar-premium.de um 21:52: > In my Opinion up2date is only the GUI for Yum. As Seth already answered this is not true. Both are independent tools. > But you can use APT-get from http://freshrpms.net > to update and install programs (xine, gkrellm , gnome-alsamixer etc.pp) Why using an external tool while all you need is already on board. I do not understand such a "policy". Just learn to use the tools. > Richy Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl Sirendipity 22:45:48 up 14 days, 19 users, load average: 0.28, 0.42, [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars From lewt at warcry.com Thu Mar 4 22:04:51 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:04:51 -0600 Subject: Yum Configurations In-Reply-To: <20040304202617.99005.qmail@web11705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040304202617.99005.qmail@web11705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4047A803.4050407@warcry.com> Are there updates or are we working with what's just on the .iso's? If so what are the update servers so I can adjust my yum.conf Thanks From bartk at clara.co.uk Thu Mar 4 22:01:36 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:01:36 +0000 Subject: evolution problems cont. Message-ID: <4047A740.3050005@clara.co.uk> Evolution is working . Quick d/l of an rpm and --replacepkgs option did the trick , but.... What follows is the output form the console: [root at nemesis rpms]# rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs '/home/bart/rpms/evolution-1.5.4-1.i 386.rpm' /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or di rectory error: failed to stat /home/bart/akhram/: Input/output error Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:evolution ########################################### [100%] WARNING: Failed to parse default value `' for schema (/schemas/apps/evolution/ad dressbook/display/vpane_position) /usr/share/omf/gnome-panel/window-list-es.omf:12: parser error : Input is not pr oper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! Manual de la miniaplicaic? Lista de ventanas V2.6 ^ /usr/share/omf/gnome-panel/window-list-es.omf:12: error: Bytes: 0xF3 0x6E 0x20 0 x4C Manual de la miniaplicaic? Lista de ventanas V2.6 ^ OMF file does not exist, is not readable, or is not well-formed XML: /usr/share/ omf/gnome-panel/window-list-es.omf Unable to register /usr/share/omf/gnome-panel/window-list-es.omf [root at nemesis rpms]# evolution asked to activate component_id `OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Addressbook_Component:1.5 ' Setting up initial mail tree addressbook_migrate (0.0.0) (evolution:2450): e-utils-WARNING **: cannot open `/root/evolution/local': Error opening directory '/root/evolution/local': No such file or directory trying to migrate from /root/evolution/addressbook-sources.xml trying to migrate completion folders (evolution:2450): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL para meter. (evolution:2450): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL para meter. (evolution:2450): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gvaluetypes.c: line 810 (g_valu e_get_pointer): assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_POINTER (value)' failed (evolution:2450): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gvaluetypes.c: line 810 (g_valu e_get_pointer): assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_POINTER (value)' failed (evolution:2450): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gvaluetypes.c: line 810 (g_valu e_get_pointer): assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_POINTER (value)' failed (evolution:2450): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gvaluetypes.c: line 810 (g_valu e_get_pointer): assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_POINTER (value)' failed -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From lewt at warcry.com Thu Mar 4 22:07:06 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:07:06 -0600 Subject: Sorry about dup post.. Yum Config Message-ID: <4047A88A.3000405@warcry.com> Are there updates for Test 1? If so can I see a copy of a yum.conf file to update mine.. Thanks For some reason my post got threaded under a different topic.. hopefully this one comes out in the right place. Corey From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Thu Mar 4 22:19:25 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:19:25 -0600 Subject: Dual Head Problem FC2test1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4047AB6D.80700@precisiondrive.com> I had to add this to the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf file in the [server-Standard] section #command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 +xinerama -layout multi The layout multi is a layout that I edited into the XF86Config file. I had a working XF86Config that I got working on RH8 a while ago. That I got working with the XFree86 -configure option but that seems missing now. Dave Pratik Mehta wrote: >Hi, > > I have an ATI M9 card which can use screen spanning for two monitors, i know that because it works well when in boot into XP, but for FC2test1, it seems to be working but it does not span for the two monitors even though i have the options checked for "Dual Head" and "Screen Spanning". What happens is that my laptop screen and the other monitor that i have attached show the same thing. So if i open mozilla then i cannot move the window into the other monitor. >any help is appreciated.... > >- Pratik > > > > From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Thu Mar 4 22:25:09 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:25:09 -0600 Subject: Dual Head Problem FC2test1 In-Reply-To: <4047AB6D.80700@precisiondrive.com> References: <4047AB6D.80700@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <4047ACC5.40804@precisiondrive.com> I am wrong the configure option is still in the man page it is not on the help for the command though (unless I missed it). If you run XFree86 from a console window with out X running (say in init 3) and give it the -configure option it should make a decent XF86Config file and then add a layout that you like. Does the GUI off the menu work for you? because it did not let me save any options on my install. If you look at the .xsession-errors file in your homedir it probably has an error from the GUI screen. Dave Dave Waller wrote: > I had to add this to the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf file in the > [server-Standard] section > > #command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 > command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 +xinerama -layout multi > > The layout multi is a layout that I edited into the XF86Config file. > > I had a working XF86Config that I got working on RH8 a while ago. > That I got working with the XFree86 -configure option but that seems > missing now. > > Dave > > Pratik Mehta wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have an ATI M9 card which can use screen spanning for two monitors, >> i know that because it works well when in boot into XP, but for >> FC2test1, it seems to be working but it does not span for the two >> monitors even though i have the options checked for "Dual Head" and >> "Screen Spanning". What happens is that my laptop screen and the >> other monitor that i have attached show the same thing. So if i open >> mozilla then i cannot move the window into the other monitor. >> any help is appreciated.... >> >> - Pratik >> >> >> >> > > From pmehta at soa.org Thu Mar 4 23:10:20 2004 From: pmehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:10:20 -0600 Subject: problems after update - up2date ... Message-ID: Hi, i have this error when i try to use up2date from the shell Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py", line 38, in ? import gnome.ui ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py", line 61, in ? import DeviceDisk File "/usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceDisk.py", line 19, in ? import gnome.ui ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode - Pratik Pratik B Mehta IT SOA pmehta at soa.org >>> dwaller at precisiondrive.com 03/04/04 16:23 PM >>> I am wrong the configure option is still in the man page it is not on the help for the command though (unless I missed it). If you run XFree86 from a console window with out X running (say in init 3) and give it the -configure option it should make a decent XF86Config file and then add a layout that you like. Does the GUI off the menu work for you? because it did not let me save any options on my install. If you look at the .xsession-errors file in your homedir it probably has an error from the GUI screen. Dave Dave Waller wrote: > I had to add this to the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf file in the > [server-Standard] section > > #command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 > command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 +xinerama -layout multi > > The layout multi is a layout that I edited into the XF86Config file. > > I had a working XF86Config that I got working on RH8 a while ago. > That I got working with the XFree86 -configure option but that seems > missing now. > > Dave > > Pratik Mehta wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have an ATI M9 card which can use screen spanning for two monitors, >> i know that because it works well when in boot into XP, but for >> FC2test1, it seems to be working but it does not span for the two >> monitors even though i have the options checked for "Dual Head" and >> "Screen Spanning". What happens is that my laptop screen and the >> other monitor that i have attached show the same thing. So if i open >> mozilla then i cannot move the window into the other monitor. >> any help is appreciated.... >> >> - Pratik >> >> >> >> > > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From davej at redhat.com Thu Mar 4 23:39:30 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:39:30 +0000 Subject: linux-2.6.3-1.118 reiserfs FAILURE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040304233930.GB7609@redhat.com> On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:39:15PM -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > I just tried to reboot into linux-2.6.3-1.118. I have reiser root on lvm2. > > It fails, saying the superblock is corrupt! > > I rebooted to linux-2.6.1-1.65 (the last that I know works), and it is fine. bugzilla please. Dave From brian at krahmer.com Thu Mar 4 23:44:12 2004 From: brian at krahmer.com (Brian Krahmer) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 15:44:12 -0800 Subject: up2date fails after update - please help! Message-ID: <000601c40242$995a5e30$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> I'm seeing the same problems as Christian. Hopefully we can arrive at the solution instead of talking about which tool we should be running. :) It appears to be python related, but I know absolutely nothing about python, so I'm stuck... There are two applications which show problems below. [root at selkirk brian]# yum update Unable to find pid Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders mi = cachedb.dbMatch() UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment [root at selkirk brian]# system-config-network Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/system-config-network-gui", line 269, in ? main() File "/usr/sbin/system-config-network-gui", line 179, in main handleException(sys.exc_info(), PROGNAME, PRG_VERSION) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rhpl/exception.py", line 291, in handle Exception fs = FileSelection(_("Please specify a file to save the dump")) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rhpl/exception.py", line 209, in __init __ import gnome.ui ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_ folder_mode From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Thu Mar 4 23:52:41 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 00:52:41 +0100 Subject: up2date fails after update - please help! In-Reply-To: <000601c40242$995a5e30$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> References: <000601c40242$995a5e30$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Message-ID: <1078444361.20312.394.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Fr, den 05.03.2004 schrieb Brian Krahmer um 00:44: > I'm seeing the same problems as Christian. Hopefully we can arrive at the > solution instead of talking about which tool we should be running. :) It > appears to be python related, but I know absolutely nothing about python, so > I'm stuck... There are two applications which show problems below. > > [root at selkirk brian]# yum update > > Unable to find pid > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? > yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main > clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers > cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders > mi = cachedb.dbMatch() > UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment Should be covered by https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117290 see other duplicated bugzilla reports too Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl Sirendipity 00:51:39 up 14 days, 2:25, load average: 0.70, 0.60, 0.44 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars From mharris at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 00:21:23 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:21:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Dual Head Problem FC2test1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Pratik Mehta wrote: >Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:16:38 -0600 >From: Pratik Mehta >To: "<" >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >List-Id: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Dual Head Problem FC2test1 > >Hi, > >I have an ATI M9 card which can use screen spanning for two >monitors, i know that because it works well when in boot into >XP, but for FC2test1, it seems to be working but it does not >span for the two monitors even though i have the options checked >for "Dual Head" and "Screen Spanning". What happens is that my >laptop screen and the other monitor that i have attached show >the same thing. So if i open mozilla then i cannot move the >window into the other monitor. any help is appreciated.... You may need to edit the config file by hand and use some of the options documented in the radeon manpage perhaps. In particular the Option "monitorlayout" may be useful. Hope this helps. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat From nbecker at hns.com Fri Mar 5 00:30:12 2004 From: nbecker at hns.com (nbecker at hns.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:30:12 -0500 Subject: linux-2.6.3-1.118 reiserfs FAILURE In-Reply-To: <20040304233930.GB7609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1078446612-9438.019.72-smmsdV2.1.0@smtp.hns.com> already done Hughes Network Systems From adamo97 at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 00:49:55 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:49:55 -0500 Subject: Nautilus Catalog View Message-ID: <1078447795.2375.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> The new [Computer] icon on the desktop is great, except that I accidentally set the view preferences to "Catalog" and every time I double-click it, it gives me the following error prompt: { The Catalog view encountered an error while starting up. The location cannot be displayed with this viewer. } I'm running the latest rawhide packages (nautilus 2.5.8) Does anyone know how I can set the view back to either Icon or List? Best Regards, Adam Scarcella =) From adamo97 at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 00:57:37 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:57:37 -0500 Subject: EMPTY('Main Menu > System Tools') Message-ID: <1078448256.2662.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> I just updated to the latest rawhide packages but I noticed that the System Tools option in the Main Menu is empty. There were many useful apps such as Red Hat Up2date, Synaptic, Hardware Browser, etc... that I used frequently from there. Is there some way for me to fix this issue? Best Regards, Adam Scarcella =) From adamo97 at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 01:00:01 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:00:01 -0500 Subject: Nautilus Side Pane Missing Message-ID: <1078448400.2662.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> I recently upgraded to the latest rawhide development packages, including GNOME 2.5.9 and Nautilus 2.5.8. I noticed that the Side Pane is missing from all the Nautilus windows and I can't seem to figure out how to get it back. Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone have a solution to this problem? Best Regards, Adam Scarcella =) From adamo97 at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 01:04:01 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:04:01 -0500 Subject: USB Mouse Not Working Message-ID: <1078448641.2662.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> I recently upgraded to the latest rawhide development packages, including kernel 2.6.3 and almost everything works, except for my Optical USB mouse. It's an MS IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 It still works fine when I boot with kernel 2.4.22 Can someone please help me get my stupid MS mouse to work again? Best Regards, Adam Scarcella =) From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Fri Mar 5 01:12:44 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 02:12:44 +0100 Subject: USB Mouse Not Working In-Reply-To: <1078448641.2662.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078448641.2662.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1078449164.20312.424.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Fr, den 05.03.2004 schrieb Adam Scarcella um 02:04: > I recently upgraded to the latest rawhide development packages, > including kernel 2.6.3 and almost everything works, except for my > Optical USB mouse. It's an MS IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 > > It still works fine when I boot with kernel 2.4.22 > > Can someone please help me get my stupid MS mouse to work again? > > Best Regards, > > Adam Scarcella =) Do you use /dev/input/mice as mouse device? Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl Sirendipity 02:12:04 up 14 days, 3:45, load average: 0.36, 0.37, 0.32 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars From duncric at iit.edu Fri Mar 5 01:18:44 2004 From: duncric at iit.edu (Richard Duncan) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:18:44 -0600 Subject: ATi Drivers in 2.6.x Message-ID: <4047D574.3070509@iit.edu> I have been using the ATi drivers for my Radeon 9600XT, but am having trouble compiling a module for 2.6.x, which I apparently need for Open GL and other 3d acceleration. At first I didn't really notice anything was wrong cause I wasn't running anything 3D, but I've been wanting to try out the Linux version of UT2004 Demo to compare to my Windows FPS. At any rate, when I go into the 2.6.x folder for the driver, and type make, it compiles a couple objects then exits with an error (can't find a file, or files missing, sorry I'm in Windows right now and don't remember the names). At any rate, I don't see any documentation on the ATi website or in the driver package about the 2.6.x folder, I just assumed it was the right one to make since the regular files (typing ./make.sh) complain about conflicts with DRI being in the kernel. Anyone using the ATi drivers in FC2-test1 and have 3D acceleration working? What do I need besides the kernel source, gcc, glib, and XFree86? I've updated all the packages available for FC2-test1. Richard Duncan From wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu Fri Mar 5 01:49:22 2004 From: wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (Wes Shull) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 18:49:22 -0700 Subject: CD writing really doing my head in. In-Reply-To: <20040304213318.11591.4555.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040304213318.11591.4555.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403041849.22755.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Paul wrote: > grub.conf says /dev/hdc=3Dide-cd /dev/hdd=3Dide-cd > /dev/hdf=3Dide-cd Those are probably redundant... unless you've got some weird devices, ide-cd will be the driver loaded for them automatically. > /dev/cdrom points to /dev/hdc, cdrom1 to hdd, cdrom2 to hdf > /dev/cdwriter to hdd and cdwriter1 to hdf > /dev/scd0 to hdc, scd1 to hdd and scd2 to hdf No ide-scsi -> we're not pretending they're on a scsi bus anymore -> you can get rid of the scd? links (but on the other hand their presence shouldn't be hurting anything) > k3b and xcdroast pick the drives up without a problem > > Non will let me burn, they always give a mkisofs error (unknown > error 11). hdf is a DVD burner and growisofs won't allow me to > burn. Does mkisofs work by itself? For example mkisofs -r -J -V "Foo" /some/path >foo.iso If that doesn't give you errors, can you then fake a burn like this? (take out the -dummy if you actually want to burn) cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -dummy -dao -v foo.iso This won't work for burning a DVD, but will at least show if your drivers and basic tools are working correctly... -- "TEST RELEASES EAT BABIES." --Jef Spaleta on the fedora-test-list From jbinpg at shaw.ca Fri Mar 5 01:54:09 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:54:09 -0800 Subject: Evolution 1.5 Q's In-Reply-To: <1078382214.3338.191.camel@hermione> References: <40467ABE.2080409@clara.co.uk> <1078361002.7821.63.camel@T7.linux> <1078382214.3338.191.camel@hermione> Message-ID: <20040305015408.GB29168@shaw.ca> On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 07:20:19PM +0800, Colin Charles wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 08:43, Paul wrote: > > > My first question is why does it alway die horribly on the first > > download at email number 12 and then work after that (usually) and why > > is it so bloody slow? 600 messages takes well over 45 minutes to > > download on a UK broadband connection (512K line) and gnome-system- > > monitor shows it hogging upto 99% CPU time. > > Spamassassin is running. Likely, but it should be piped through spamd/spamc which is blindingly fast in comparison to running spamassassin.rc > > I have the internal spam trap killed and am only using SA 2.63. Sylpheed > > sucks down the same number of emails in under 5 mins (not checked using > > SA though - not sure how to set that up) > > If you get Sylpheed to run even on your local SA2.63, it will take that > long and eat up your CPU time. I would first check if Evo is using spamd/spamc and if not ask here how to set that up if it is possible. And then if you are still getting slowdowns, I would disable all but local dns lookups to see if that makes a difference (add the -L switch to line 24 of /etc/rc.d/init.d/spammassain). Another quite useful proggy I just installed is called ecncheck which you can look for on freshmeat.net. It will check the connection between you and a destination and let you know if it supports ECN, if it fails gracefully, etc. I pointed it at my DNS servers and found that one of them was refusing all connections at the time...so I moved it to the bottom of the resolver pile. Lookups have been quite sprightly ever since. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From pmehta at soa.org Fri Mar 5 02:02:20 2004 From: pmehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:02:20 -0600 Subject: pcmcia still not working after 2.6.3 upgrade Message-ID: i upgraded to 2.6.3 and it seems that the Cisco Aironet 350 pcmcia card still does not start. But when i boot in windows it works correctly...... - Pratik From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Fri Mar 5 02:31:50 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:31:50 -0500 Subject: ess soundcard not detected In-Reply-To: <40476800.2080304@precisiondrive.com> References: <404604C8.2020708@precisiondrive.com> <40468BDE.1080006@insight.rr.com> <40476800.2080304@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <4047E696.9070508@insight.rr.com> Dave Waller wrote: > I checked bugzilla and there are a few entries that hit but none > current, or none that match. > Do you know what I should look for in the kudzu for the bug, I can try > to fix it. > > Dave > > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> I believe that there is a typo in kudzu that references your soundcard >> incorrectly. The numbers don't match. The thread that I thought stated the error in renaming was the below thread. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/msg01351.html I checked the available soundcards in the 2.4 kernel version and only got the below listing related to sound for ess. es1370.o es1371.o esssolo1.o If you look in /lib/modules/kernel/kernel/drivers/sound you might see a module that is named close to your sound card type. I don't know for sure what is there with 2.6 kernel modules. I seem to recall that the alsa are prefixed with snd- I'm curious now and really don't know how to fix your problem now. i'll have to take a look on the drivers available when I get o the test computer. Jim .. >> >> Dave Waller wrote: >> >>> I have a compaq deskpro with a built-in ess 1869 soundcard and it >>> worked just fine in RH7, 8, 9 and Fedora Core 1, but it now does not >>> work. From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Mar 5 02:26:52 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:26:52 -0500 Subject: pcmcia still not working after 2.6.3 upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1078453612.21714.146.camel@matrix> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 21:02, Pratik Mehta wrote: > i upgraded to 2.6.3 and it seems that the Cisco Aironet 350 pcmcia card still does not start. But when i boot in windows it works correctly...... > I have the same problem. However, to get around this for now; I manually start the pcmcia interface as root. ================================================== service pcmcia start ================================================== Now, we're back in business > - Pratik -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From lewt at warcry.com Fri Mar 5 03:03:53 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:03:53 -0600 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 Message-ID: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> Are there any plans for x86_64 iso's for the second test release? From notting at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 03:10:43 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:10:43 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> Message-ID: <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Lewt @ Linux Warcry (lewt at warcry.com) said: > Are there any plans for x86_64 iso's for the second test release? Yes. Bill From lewt at warcry.com Fri Mar 5 03:20:39 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:20:39 -0600 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4047F207.90808@warcry.com> I'm trying to do a network install of the x86_64 branch but when I select NFS/FTP/HTTP it does not procede to the next screen.. Any ideas what might be wrong? Bill Nottingham wrote: >Lewt @ Linux Warcry (lewt at warcry.com) said: > > >>Are there any plans for x86_64 iso's for the second test release? >> >> > >Yes. > >Bill > > > > From notting at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 03:37:44 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:37:44 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <4047F207.90808@warcry.com> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4047F207.90808@warcry.com> Message-ID: <20040305033743.GA31960@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Lewt @ Linux Warcry (lewt at warcry.com) said: > I'm trying to do a network install of the x86_64 branch but when I > select NFS/FTP/HTTP it does not procede to the next screen.. > > Any ideas what might be wrong? nForce chipset? Bill From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Fri Mar 5 03:45:27 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:45:27 -0500 Subject: up2date & yum Message-ID: I tried to run yum and or up2date and I got the following error up2date Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? sys.exit(main() or 0) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 880, in main from up2date_client import gui File "gui.py", line 20, in ? ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode [root at matrix root]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders mi = cachedb.dbMatch() UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment From lewt at warcry.com Fri Mar 5 03:53:48 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:53:48 -0600 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <20040305033743.GA31960@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4047F207.90808@warcry.com> <20040305033743.GA31960@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4047F9CC.20308@warcry.com> Yes Nforce3 150 Shuttle SN85G4 http://us.shuttle.com/specs_access.asp?pro_id=389 Bill Nottingham wrote: >Lewt @ Linux Warcry (lewt at warcry.com) said: > > >>I'm trying to do a network install of the x86_64 branch but when I >>select NFS/FTP/HTTP it does not procede to the next screen.. >> >>Any ideas what might be wrong? >> >> > >nForce chipset? > >Bill > > > > From pmehta at soa.org Fri Mar 5 03:50:25 2004 From: pmehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:50:25 -0600 Subject: pcmcia still not working after 2.6.3 upgrade Message-ID: Nope Does not work. In fact i do not know what is service referring to... I take the card out and put it back in and also that does not do anything. - Pratik >>> ernesto at ornl.gov 03/04/04 20:31 PM >>> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 21:02, Pratik Mehta wrote: > i upgraded to 2.6.3 and it seems that the Cisco Aironet 350 pcmcia card still does not start. But when i boot in windows it works correctly...... > I have the same problem. However, to get around this for now; I manually start the pcmcia interface as root. ================================================== service pcmcia start ================================================== Now, we're back in business > - Pratik -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From pmehta at soa.org Fri Mar 5 03:52:31 2004 From: pmehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:52:31 -0600 Subject: up2date & yum Message-ID: Same here. I have got the same problems....i do not see the redhat-up2date gui applet...and also i get the same thing when i run yum. Also, now when i load into gnome the front panel which shows that it is loading settings stays on for a long time..... - Pratik >>> ojgbagg27ab at msn.com 03/04/04 21:43 PM >>> I tried to run yum and or up2date and I got the following error up2date Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? sys.exit(main() or 0) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 880, in main from up2date_client import gui File "gui.py", line 20, in ? ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode [root at matrix root]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders mi = cachedb.dbMatch() UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 5 03:58:13 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:58:13 -0500 Subject: up2date & yum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1078459093.20005.2.camel@binkley> > [root at matrix root]# yum update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? > yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main > clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers > cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders > mi = cachedb.dbMatch() > UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment > go to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117290 download the yum package listed there. it fixes it. thanks -sv From gbpeck at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 5 04:10:57 2004 From: gbpeck at sbcglobal.net (Gary Peck) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:10:57 -0800 Subject: building external modules In-Reply-To: <20040304204858.GA2091@free.fr> References: <20040304204858.GA2091@free.fr> Message-ID: <20040305041057.GF29361@realify.com> On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 09:48:58PM +0100, Dumas Patrice wrote: > Since the kernel is 2.6, I have trouble compiling and installing an external > module. I could only compile the driver as root. Yeah, I've noticed the same problem. I keep meaning to bugzilla it, but haven't gotten around to it yet. In the meantime, here's my notes on how to compile modules as a normal user: > And before I compile it I had to do the following as root: > > * edit the Makefile in /usr/src/kernel-2.6.... and remove 'custom' from the > EXTRAVERSION. Otherwise it isn't installed at the right place. > * run > make oldconfig > make prepare As of the 2.6 kernel, you don't need kernel-source installed to compile kernel modules (which is what it looks like you're doing). The kernel package now contains all necessary files. > If I try to compile as a user, I get > [pat at localhost driver]$ make > make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=/home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/fc2t/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-1.118' > HOSTCC scripts/modpost.o > cc1 : Permission non accord?e : ouverture du fichier de d?pendances > scripts/.modpost.o.d > make[2]: *** [scripts/modpost.o] Erreur 1 > make[1]: *** [scripts] Erreur 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/fc2t/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-1.118' > make: *** [eagle-usb.ko] Erreur 2 Even though you should only need the kernel package, the current Fedora one is missing some files. Specifically, all the actual executables are there, but some of the intermediate files are missing. This triggers make to try and rebuild them. Do this as a workaround (assuming kernel version 2.6.3-1.118) while logged in as root: sed -ie 's/^always/#always/' \ /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/scripts/Makefile \ /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/scripts/genksyms/Makefile Some timestamps are also messed up: touch -r `ls -t /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/scripts/split-include \ /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/include/linux/autoconf.h \ /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/include/config/MARKER | head -1` \ /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/include/config/MARKER touch -r /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s \ /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h And last but not least, I had to do the following, though I'm not sure if this is necessary for all external modules, or just the one I was building: ln -s /dev/null /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/.__modpost.cmd After the above commands, you should be able to build modules as a normal user. gary From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Fri Mar 5 04:12:45 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:12:45 -0500 Subject: 2.6.3-1.118 and X References: <1078418262.3394.1.camel@mycroftxxx.epm2.com> Message-ID: edit your /etx/x11/xconfig file and look at your mouse setting, change it to /dev/paus to /dev/input/mouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hatzel" To: Sent: 03/04/2004 11:37 AM Subject: 2.6.3-1.118 and X > After upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-1.118, X will not start for me, failing > saying it cannot detect my mouse, although when I run a dmesg, it shows > that my PS/2 wheel mouse was in fact detected. Any ideas? > > Mike Hatzel > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Mar 5 04:06:55 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 23:06:55 -0500 Subject: pcmcia still not working after 2.6.3 upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1078459615.21714.149.camel@matrix> Hi, On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 22:50, Pratik Mehta wrote: > Nope Does not work. In fact i do not know what is service referring to... service provides a way to start linux services. After your pcmcia has been started. Then go ahead and run "neat" The neat should provide a nice gui for configuring your wireless. > I take the card out and put it back in and also that does not do anything. > > - Pratik > > >>> ernesto at ornl.gov 03/04/04 20:31 PM >>> > On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 21:02, Pratik Mehta wrote: > > i upgraded to 2.6.3 and it seems that the Cisco Aironet 350 pcmcia card still does not start. But when i boot in windows it works correctly...... > > > I have the same problem. However, to get around this for now; I > manually start the pcmcia interface as root. > ================================================== > service pcmcia start > ================================================== > > Now, we're back in business > > > > > > > > > - Pratik > -- > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Mar 5 04:26:31 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 23:26:31 -0500 Subject: up2date complains about redhat-lsb needing /usr/bin/kill Message-ID: <1078460791.21714.156.camel@matrix> Hi, I can't get my up2date going because of some redhat-lsb dependency. What is the deal? How does one tell update to forget about redhat-lsb since it is not in the update list anyway? Maybe there is another package package in the list related to redhat-lsb that I am not aware of. Any ideas? -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From brian at krahmer.com Fri Mar 5 06:14:28 2004 From: brian at krahmer.com (Brian Krahmer) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:14:28 -0800 Subject: up2date fails after update - please help! Message-ID: <001101c40279$1de45c60$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Alexander, thanks for the help with the yum patch. It still seems that Alton Bailey and I another problem that I haven't been able to find any answers for. > ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: > gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode That symbol is causing a lot of Gnome stuff to break. Anybody have any ideas on this one? thanks, brian From aph.p at tiscali.fr Fri Mar 5 08:04:02 2004 From: aph.p at tiscali.fr (Alain) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 09:04:02 +0100 Subject: compatibility tcltk Message-ID: <1078473842.1444.20.camel@nyarlathotep.fedora> hello, some old programs do not work or to be recompiled with new tcltk. is a compatibility package with 8.3.* possible ? for use this old programs with FC2, I have recompiled some SRPMS (i.e. python, rythmbox, ...) with tcltk 8.3, but this is not a good solution for many users. 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I've updated all the packages available for FC2-test1. > > Richard Duncan > > Hi Richard I tried to compile the ATI-Drivers too. (Radeon 9100) I get an Bad Address on fglrx.ko when i try to load the module. Everyone an idea? Best Regards Richard Klemm From alexl at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 09:19:25 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 05 Mar 2004 10:19:25 +0100 Subject: Nautilus Catalog View In-Reply-To: <1078447795.2375.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078447795.2375.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1078478365.29202.315.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 01:49, Adam Scarcella wrote: > The new [Computer] icon on the desktop is great, except that I > accidentally set the view preferences to "Catalog" and every time I > double-click it, it gives me the following error prompt: > { > The Catalog view encountered an error while starting up. > The location cannot be displayed with this viewer. > } > > I'm running the latest rawhide packages (nautilus 2.5.8) > > Does anyone know how I can set the view back to either Icon or List? This is unfortunately a bit hard to do at the moment. You need to fix the file ~/.nautilus/metafiles/computer\:%2F%2F%2F.xml. Removing it should work. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a bookish arachnophobic rock star looking for a cure to the poison coursing through his veins. She's a green-fingered bisexual politician from aristocratic European stock. They fight crime! From markmc at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 10:04:51 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:04:51 +0000 Subject: libgnomeui/gtk+ ABI problems Message-ID: <1078481090.4084.38.camel@laptop> Hey, If you see an error like: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode you need to update your libgnomeui to the latest in Raw Hide - i.e. to use gtk2-2.3.5-1 you need libgnomeui-2.5.90.1-1. What happened was libgnomeui was using some recently introduced gtk+ functions which were removed in gtk+ 2.3.5 so we needed to respin libgnomeui. I didn't add a Conflicts: since I don't think that's neccessary for random transient Raw Hide b0rkage. Thanks, Mark. From markmc at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 10:34:53 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:34:53 +0000 Subject: new package: gnome-netstatus Message-ID: <1078482892.4084.49.camel@laptop> Hi, I added the gnome-netstatus applet to Raw Hide a few days ago. I'd appreciate it if people could test it out and give me feedback, either by mail or (preferably) through bugzilla. ----------- The Network Monitor is a little applet which sits on your panel flashing away at you so as to give you an idea of whats happening on your network interface. It also has a little dialog to give you more information about the network interface. ------------ That about sums it up :-) Thanks, Mark. From adamo97 at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 11:03:09 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:03:09 -0500 Subject: USB Mouse Not Working Message-ID: >> I recently upgraded to the latest rawhide development packages, >> including kernel 2.6.3 and almost everything works, except for my >> Optical USB mouse. It's an MS IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 >> >> It still works fine when I boot with kernel 2.4.22 >> >> Can someone please help me get my stupid MS mouse to work again? >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Adam Scarcella =) > >Do you use /dev/input/mice as mouse device? > >Alexander I'm not sure if I am using /dev/input/mice, how do I find out? And if I am using /dev/input/mice - what does that mean? Adam =) From bartk at clara.co.uk Fri Mar 5 11:26:22 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:26:22 +0000 Subject: USB Mouse Not Working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <404863DE.2000709@clara.co.uk> Adam Scarcella wrote: >>>I recently upgraded to the latest rawhide development packages, >>>including kernel 2.6.3 and almost everything works, except for my >>>Optical USB mouse. It's an MS IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 >>> >>>It still works fine when I boot with kernel 2.4.22 >>> >>>Can someone please help me get my stupid MS mouse to work again? >>> >>>Best Regards, >>> >>>Adam Scarcella =) >>> >>> >>Do you use /dev/input/mice as mouse device? >> >>Alexander >> >> > >I'm not sure if I am using /dev/input/mice, how do I find out? > >And if I am using /dev/input/mice - what does that mean? > >Adam =) > > > > Check XF86Config line /dev/input/mice should be there twice -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Fri Mar 5 11:29:33 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:29:33 -0500 Subject: 1.5 Evolution problems In-Reply-To: <4047A0FE.1090407@clara.co.uk> References: <4047A0FE.1090407@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <1078486173.11187.13.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 16:34, Bart Kalita wrote: > Well, > > I managed to install evolution just yesterday evening and had a quick > look around, setup pop e-mail account and was upset that "front > page" or rather "summary page" was gone ( one of my favourites > ) closed the program and went to bed. > > Today Evolution refuses to start . while trying to start it form > console I got "segmentation fault" and nothing more. > > since I do not have yum running an overnight update proces I can't even > start to think what might be the problem. Bart, Try ps -ef | grep evolution and kill all of the related processes. then try to restart evolution. May or may not help. BTW: I was disappointed at the lack of a summary page also. Bob... From dev_nul_nul at gmx.net Fri Mar 5 11:34:22 2004 From: dev_nul_nul at gmx.net (dev_nul_nul) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:34:22 +0100 Subject: GLib-CRITICAL errors in many applications Message-ID: <1078486460.3131.7.camel@mainframe> Hi, I have updated to Fedora Core 2 Test (1.90 I guess) via yum. Besides some problems I could fix manually, I experience now a bug when running applications like file-roller or gedit. Errors like these with file-roller: (file-roller:2669): GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 2129 (g_strsplit): assertion `string != NULL' failed (file-roller:2669): GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 2241 (g_strjoinv): assertion `str_array != NULL' failed (file-roller:2669): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1579 (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed And gedit: (that error seems to be an infinite loop): (gedit:9436): GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 2129 (g_strsplit): assertion `string != NULL' failed (gedit:9436): GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 2241 (g_strjoinv): assertion `str_array != NULL' failed ** (gedit:9436): CRITICAL **: file egg-recent-model.c: line 328 (peek_state): assertion `info->states != NULL' failed ** (gedit:9436): CRITICAL **: file egg-recent-model.c: line 328 (peek_state): assertion `info->states != NULL' failed ** (gedit:9436): CRITICAL **: file egg-recent-model.c: line 328 (peek_state): assertion `info->states != NULL' failed But the strange thing about this is, when I run these commands as root. I only get one error message then, and the program works normally :S Thx a lot for any tips ;) Holger From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Fri Mar 5 11:34:40 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:34:40 -0500 Subject: ATi Drivers in 2.6.x In-Reply-To: <40483EC4.9020000@gamestar-premium.de> References: <4047D574.3070509@iit.edu> <40483EC4.9020000@gamestar-premium.de> Message-ID: <1078486480.11187.18.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 03:48, Richard Klemm wrote: > Richard Duncan wrote: > > > I have been using the ATi drivers...... > > > > Anyone using the ATi drivers in FC2-test1 and have 3D acceleration > > working? What do I need besides the kernel source, gcc, glib, and > > XFree86? I've updated all the packages available for FC2-test1. > > > > Richard Duncan > > > > > Hi Richard > > I tried to compile the ATI-Drivers too. (Radeon 9100) > I get an Bad Address on fglrx.ko when i try to load the module. > Everyone an idea? > > Best Regards > > Richard Klemm This is not the best solution while testing a new distribution, but you could either back off to an older Fedora kernel, or get a stock kernel from kernel.org. I'm running the stock 2.6.3 with the fglrx module w/o problems. The later Fedora-Test kernels also produces the bad address error for me. --- Bob Chiodini Senior Engineer ASRC Aerospace M/S ASRC-18 Kennedy Space Center, FL 32899 321-867-6313 (voice) 321-867-6300 (fax) bob.chiodini at ksc.nasa.gov From linuxnow at newtral.org Fri Mar 5 11:34:13 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:34:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Lewt @ Linux Warcry (lewt at warcry.com) said: > > Are there any plans for x86_64 iso's for the second test release? > > Yes. I installed the test1 release and now I'm trying to update using yum and the development trees. Will the iso images take very long to appear? To be able to update now I've created two channels in yum conf, one pointing to x86_64 development and another to i386. Is that correct? Pau From czar at czarc.net Fri Mar 5 11:41:31 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 06:41:31 -0500 Subject: up2date complains about redhat-lsb needing /usr/bin/kill In-Reply-To: <1078460791.21714.156.camel@matrix> References: <1078460791.21714.156.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <200403050641.31179.czar@czarc.net> On Thursday 04 March 2004 23:26, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > I can't get my up2date going because of some redhat-lsb dependency. > > What is the deal? How does one tell update to forget about redhat-lsb > since it is not in the update list anyway? > > Maybe there is another package package in the list related to redhat-lsb > that I am not aware of. OK, this has been discussed on this mailing list previously so I could just say ... check the archives. But searching is currently not working/disabled and a manual search can be a lot of work. You could also check bugzilla ... there is a report on this. You should consider doing that in the future. Anyway, here is the deal again ... /usr/bin/kill has been moved from the coreutils package to the util-linux package. You current util-linux package is 2.12pre-3 and the updated util-linux package in development/rawhide is 2.12-4. Unfortunately, rpm/up2date consider the new 2.12-4 package to be "older" than the 2.12pre-3 package. To get around this you need to do the rpm manually -- rpm -Uvh --oldpackage coreutils... util-linux... You will need to download the two packages manually rather than using up2date. You also need to update/install the two packages at the same time to get around the switching of /usr/bin/kill from one package to the other. -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Fri Mar 5 11:52:16 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 06:52:16 -0500 Subject: new package: gnome-netstatus In-Reply-To: <1078482892.4084.49.camel@laptop> References: <1078482892.4084.49.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <200403050652.16938.czar@czarc.net> On Friday 05 March 2004 05:34, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hi, > I added the gnome-netstatus applet to Raw Hide a few days ago. I'd > appreciate it if people could test it out and give me feedback, either > by mail or (preferably) through bugzilla. > > ----------- > The Network Monitor is a little applet which sits on your > panel flashing away at you so as to give you an idea of whats > happening on your network interface. > > It also has a little dialog to give you more information about > the network interface. > ------------ The display on the panel has two terminal-like images but only monitors a single interface. If, as I suspect, the two "terminals" are intended to display input and output, you might want to use different colors or something to differential between input and output. I did notice a small problem (I will try to remember to bugzilla it later) -- when you bring up the applets properties and hit the configue button, it invokes network configuration but does not switch to root first. -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Fri Mar 5 12:00:38 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:00:38 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> On Friday 05 March 2004 06:34, Pau Aliagas wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Lewt @ Linux Warcry (lewt at warcry.com) said: > > > Are there any plans for x86_64 iso's for the second test release? > > > > Yes. > > I installed the test1 release and now I'm trying to update using yum and > the development trees. Will the iso images take very long to appear? > > To be able to update now I've created two channels in yum conf, one > pointing to x86_64 development and another to i386. Is that correct? The current posted schedule for test2 is 22 March -- http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Yes, updating a x86_64 system requires input from both x86_64 and i386 repositories. If you interest is in the x86_64 as oppose to working on FC2, you might want to consider sticking with the FC1-test1 and, perhaps, rebuilding some of the i386 FC1 updates for the x86_64. Hopefully, FC1 for the x86_64 will be available "real soon now" ;) -- Gene From lewt at warcry.com Fri Mar 5 12:09:10 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:09:10 -0600 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings Message-ID: <40486DE6.5010308@warcry.com> Can you redhat guys bug one of your lawyers and see if we can finally bundle a Dvd player with Linux. These court rulings seem to allow it now since it's deemed a non trade secret now. Corey From linuxnow at newtral.org Fri Mar 5 12:10:10 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:10:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Gene C. wrote: > On Friday 05 March 2004 06:34, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Lewt @ Linux Warcry (lewt at warcry.com) said: > > > > Are there any plans for x86_64 iso's for the second test release? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > I installed the test1 release and now I'm trying to update using yum and > > the development trees. Will the iso images take very long to appear? > > > > To be able to update now I've created two channels in yum conf, one > > pointing to x86_64 development and another to i386. Is that correct? > > The current posted schedule for test2 is 22 March -- > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > > Yes, updating a x86_64 system requires input from both x86_64 and i386 > repositories. > > If you interest is in the x86_64 as oppose to working on FC2, you might want > to consider sticking with the FC1-test1 and, perhaps, rebuilding some of the > i386 FC1 updates for the x86_64. Hopefully, FC1 for the x86_64 will be > available "real soon now" ;) I'll install another partition with FC1-test, the one I had before this massive update. I'm really interested in making my new Acer 1502 laptop work with fedora. How can I help better, fc1-test1 + recompiling updates, or development and keep on upgrading? It looks like test2 will be based on devel, so maybe it's better to test it and file bugs. Pau From lewt at warcry.com Fri Mar 5 12:16:03 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:16:03 -0600 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <20040305031043.GB20663@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <40486F83.7040107@warcry.com> Unless you guys bundle core 1 with a 2.6 kernel I'm unable to use it since I use SATA and FC1 or even the x86_64 FC1 does not detect.. I have both Promise and Silicon Image controlers.. no beans.. I consider FC2 Test2 x86_64 to be the first real version to use with any AMD64 system since 2.6 supports the chipset for the most part including Promise SATA. Gene C. wrote: >On Friday 05 March 2004 06:34, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > >>On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> >> >>>Lewt @ Linux Warcry (lewt at warcry.com) said: >>> >>> >>>>Are there any plans for x86_64 iso's for the second test release? >>>> >>>> >>>Yes. >>> >>> >>I installed the test1 release and now I'm trying to update using yum and >>the development trees. Will the iso images take very long to appear? >> >>To be able to update now I've created two channels in yum conf, one >>pointing to x86_64 development and another to i386. Is that correct? >> >> > >The current posted schedule for test2 is 22 March -- >http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > >Yes, updating a x86_64 system requires input from both x86_64 and i386 >repositories. > >If you interest is in the x86_64 as oppose to working on FC2, you might want >to consider sticking with the FC1-test1 and, perhaps, rebuilding some of the >i386 FC1 updates for the x86_64. Hopefully, FC1 for the x86_64 will be >available "real soon now" ;) > > From randy at raba.com Fri Mar 5 12:17:22 2004 From: randy at raba.com (Randy L Schrickel) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 07:17:22 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? Message-ID: <40486FD2.9050709@raba.com> I'm having network/DNS issues just like what Jim Tate described in an earlier thread called "Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts". I sent a detailed message of my efforts in tackling this problem to the list yesterday, but mistakenly sent it from the wrong address. Maybe the moderators will still let it through? Anyway, I'm wondering if the fact that IPV6 is enabled on my machine could be part of the slowness problem? When I run ethereal, I get several IPV6 repliess (AAAA) before finally getting an IPV4 reply (A) and a successful name resolution. ifconfig shows that my card does have a V6 address. Deleting that address doesn't change the dnslookup behavior. I don't see those kinds of replies when I dual-boot the machine into Windows XP or Knoppix. I've set NETWORKING_IPV6=no and IPV6_AUTOCONF=no explicitly in my /etc/sysconfig/network script, but it still comes up configured. So two questions really - is there a possibility that this could be part of my DNS slowness problem, and if so, how do I disable it? Thanks, randy From czar at czarc.net Fri Mar 5 12:36:00 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:36:00 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> On Friday 05 March 2004 07:10, Pau Aliagas wrote: > How can I help better, fc1-test1 + recompiling updates, or development and > keep on upgrading? It looks like test2 will be based on devel, so maybe > it's better to test it and file bugs. Right now, I believe we are in a "hurry up and wait" situation as far as FC1 x86_64 is concerned. Justin and the Red Hat folks are trying to move it forward but it has not been annouced yet. I keep hoping "real soon now". My experience with development (i386) is a bit rough right now -- I cannot get it to install. So I am continuing to test by updating FC1-test1 (although by now any resemblence to the original is pretty much gone). The trouble with x86_64 is that there is no FC2-test1 version so you need to install from development. While you may be able to do an update from FC1-test1 x86_64 to the development level, this may or may not be very meaningful (IMHO). -- Gene From markmc at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 12:38:38 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:38:38 +0000 Subject: new package: gnome-netstatus In-Reply-To: <200403050652.16938.czar@czarc.net> References: <1078482892.4084.49.camel@laptop> <200403050652.16938.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1078490317.4084.58.camel@laptop> Hi, On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 11:52, Gene C. wrote: > On Friday 05 March 2004 05:34, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > Hi, > > I added the gnome-netstatus applet to Raw Hide a few days ago. I'd > > appreciate it if people could test it out and give me feedback, either > > by mail or (preferably) through bugzilla. > > > > ----------- > > The Network Monitor is a little applet which sits on your > > panel flashing away at you so as to give you an idea of whats > > happening on your network interface. > > > > It also has a little dialog to give you more information about > > the network interface. > > ------------ > The display on the panel has two terminal-like images but only monitors a > single interface. If, as I suspect, the two "terminals" are intended to > display input and output, you might want to use different colors or something > to differential between input and output. Yeah, the icons need work. Hopefully Garrett can do some nice Bluecurve ones. Feel free to play around with different ideas yourself. The icons are in /usr/share/icons/gnome-netstatus - one icon for each state. > I did notice a small problem (I will try to remember to bugzilla it later) -- > when you bring up the applets properties and hit the configue button, it > invokes network configuration but does not switch to root first. Make sure to bugzilla that. Thanks, Mark. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 5 12:40:53 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 07:40:53 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 07:36 -0500, Gene C. wrote: > On Friday 05 March 2004 07:10, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > How can I help better, fc1-test1 + recompiling updates, or development and > > keep on upgrading? It looks like test2 will be based on devel, so maybe > > it's better to test it and file bugs. > > Right now, I believe we are in a "hurry up and wait" situation as far as FC1 > x86_64 is concerned. Justin and the Red Hat folks are trying to move it > forward but it has not been annouced yet. I keep hoping "real soon now". fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. -sv From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Mar 5 13:10:57 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:10:57 -0500 Subject: gtk screwed after update today Message-ID: Not sure what package is to blame, but after today's update gtk is pretty much screwed. Here's what happens: Seems basic problem is /etc/gtk-2.0 has nothing but gtkrc in it, but I guess it's supposed to have more than that? system-config-network (system-config-network:19033): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (system-config-network:19033): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (system-config-network:19033): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/gtk-cancel.png' (system-config-network:19033): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (system-config-network:19033): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/gtk-ok.png' (system-config-network:19033): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (system-config-network:19033): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-missing-image.png' (system-config-network-gui:19037): Gdk-WARNING **: DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID contains invalid UTF-8 (system-config-network-gui:19037): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (system-config-network-gui:19037): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-quit.png' Error in sys.excepthook: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/system-config-network-gui", line 68, in PROGNAME, PRG_VERSION) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rhpl/exception.py", line 291, in handleException fs = FileSelection(_("Please specify a file to save the dump")) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rhpl/exception.py", line 209, in __init__ import gnome.ui ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/system-config-network-gui", line 269, in ? main() File "/usr/sbin/system-config-network-gui", line 179, in main handleException(sys.exc_info(), PROGNAME, PRG_VERSION) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rhpl/exception.py", line 291, in handleException fs = FileSelection(_("Please specify a file to save the dump")) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rhpl/exception.py", line 209, in __init__ import gnome.ui ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode From czar at czarc.net Fri Mar 5 13:10:58 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:10:58 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <200403050810.58993.czar@czarc.net> On Friday 05 March 2004 07:40, seth vidal wrote: > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. GREAT! From markmc at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 13:21:27 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:21:27 +0000 Subject: gtk screwed after update today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1078492886.4084.64.camel@laptop> Hi, On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 13:10, Neal D. Becker wrote: > Not sure what package is to blame, but after today's update gtk is pretty > much screwed. > > Here's what happens: > > Seems basic problem is /etc/gtk-2.0 has nothing but gtkrc in it, but I guess > it's supposed to have more than that? > > system-config-network > > (system-config-network:19033): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf > loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or > directory This sounds nasty. Is this file just empty ? You could try doinging gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders as root. > ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: > gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode See my mail earlier about this problem .. Thanks, Mark. From nbecker at hns.com Fri Mar 5 13:31:27 2004 From: nbecker at hns.com (Neal D. Becker) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:31:27 -0500 Subject: gtk screwed after update today In-Reply-To: <1078492886.4084.64.camel@laptop> References: <1078492886.4084.64.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <200403050831.32447.nbecker@hns.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 05 March 2004 8:21 am, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 13:10, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > Not sure what package is to blame, but after today's update gtk is pretty > > much screwed. > > > > Here's what happens: > > > > Seems basic problem is /etc/gtk-2.0 has nothing but gtkrc in it, but I > > guess it's supposed to have more than that? > > > > system-config-network > > > > (system-config-network:19033): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf > > loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or > > directory > > This sounds nasty. Is this file just empty ? > The file doesn't exist. /etc/gtk-2.0 only has one file in it, /etc/gtk-2.0: total 15 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 72 Mar 5 07:19 . drwxr-xr-x 106 root root 9744 Mar 5 08:12 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29 Mar 2 15:32 gtkrc There were a couple of cpio error messages when yum ran the updates. Don't seem to have been logged to /var/log/yum.log though, so I'm not sure if they're related. - -- Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASIEyMDqogpR5tkMRAm8WAJ99GLrxMJ/8tmip7VqG5yiIpTGSNQCfaCJu o5Yy56lrOds0z1vMqMi+KN0= =8Zlc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From balay at fastmail.fm Fri Mar 5 13:37:31 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:37:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: gtk screwed after update today In-Reply-To: <200403050831.32447.nbecker@hns.com> References: <1078492886.4084.64.camel@laptop> <200403050831.32447.nbecker@hns.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > There were a couple of cpio error messages when yum ran the updates. Don't > seem to have been logged to /var/log/yum.log though, so I'm not sure if > they're related. I get the following errors with 'yum update' gtk2 100 % done 1/52 Cannot load module /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/immodules/im-gucharmap.so: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/immodules/im-gucharmap.so does not export GTK+ IM module API: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode g_module_open() failed for /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/loaders/svg_loader.so: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode Same error with system-config-network. From the debug trace.. File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rhpl/exception.py", line 209, in __init__ import gnome.ui ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode Satish From anthony.seward at ieee.org Fri Mar 5 13:46:33 2004 From: anthony.seward at ieee.org (Anthony Joseph Seward) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:46:33 -0700 Subject: 1.5 Evolution problems In-Reply-To: <1078486173.11187.13.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <4047A0FE.1090407@clara.co.uk> <1078486173.11187.13.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1078494393.2503.0.camel@sonylap1> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 06:29 -0500, Bob Chiodini wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 16:34, Bart Kalita wrote: > > Well, > > > > I managed to install evolution just yesterday evening and had a quick > > look around, setup pop e-mail account and was upset that "front > > page" or rather "summary page" was gone ( one of my favourites > > ) closed the program and went to bed. > > > > Today Evolution refuses to start . while trying to start it form > > console I got "segmentation fault" and nothing more. > > > > since I do not have yum running an overnight update proces I can't even > > start to think what might be the problem. > > Bart, > > Try ps -ef | grep evolution and kill all of the related processes. then > try to restart evolution. May or may not help. > 'evolution --force-shutdown' is better > BTW: I was disappointed at the lack of a summary page also. > > Bob... > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Anthony Joseph Seward From jonathansavage at earthlink.net Fri Mar 5 14:10:44 2004 From: jonathansavage at earthlink.net (Jon Savage) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:10:44 -0800 Subject: up2date gui appears hosed after 3-4-04 updates In-Reply-To: <20040305132148.6081.39732.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040305132148.6081.39732.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40488A64.3020100@earthlink.net> When I run up2date I get: # up2date Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? sys.exit(main() or 0) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 880, in main from up2date_client import gui File "gui.py", line 20, in ? ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode From the above output I suspect that the problem lies with the libgnomeui-2.so.0 (just a SWAG) I don't see anything in bugzilla. Anyone know a fix? Bests Jon Savage From fedora at warmcat.com Fri Mar 5 14:17:14 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:17:14 +0000 Subject: yum chokes on www.mirror.ac.uk mirror missing file Message-ID: <200403051417.14828.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For the last few days yum is dead in the water with www.mirror.ac.uk: [root at fastcat mnt]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers retrygrab() failed for: http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/ICAClient-debuginfo-0-7.00-2.i386.hdr Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/ICAClient-debuginfo-0-7.00-2.i386.hdr [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found [root at fastcat mnt]# - -Andy - -- Find your answer without waiting for replies.... Searchable list archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASIvqjKeDCxMJCTIRAvIFAJwLrqDb2CNt0LBQmIZf+iWU/Snp2gCfdA6I 9+715nLcr3VNSBx7tJARQSs= =QwuF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From reader at newsguy.com Fri Mar 5 14:23:18 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:23:18 -0600 Subject: smbfs/cifs and recent kernels Message-ID: [Windbag alert: Long but please read if interested in cifs] I'm still having trouble with cisfs mounts. Briefly put: They mount but cannot write to them. I posted here about it and was told by at least one poster that I should take it up with upstream mainters. Further that they were `very' interested in feedback. I did just that, and did get one reply message back that had some helpfull info in it. I tried the suggestions and wrote back with the data from my tests. Wrote again a week later to remind ... that was several day ago. So I'm not seeing the high interest suggested. At any rate from what I understand from Dave's posts here; it (cifs) is being actively promoted by leaving smbfs out of the kernel in the hope of getting people to `hammer' on cifs. After I ran out of ideas for getting cifs mounted with write enabled I decided to rebuild a recent kernel and enable smbfs. With that done I can post a side by side comparison (included near the end) but I'd like to ask why is cifs being promoted over smbfs? What benefits might one expect from switching over. The comparison is included below in a reprint of letter to Steven. Note that the options used are the same (in fstab) but the results quite different. (cifs ends up readonly) But since mounting the exact same share with smbfs allows write is wouls seem to rule out problems on the windows config side. Is it faster, more reliable etc etc? Should most options work the same? And since cifs is being actively promoted here it seems appropriate to discuss its virtues or lack of same here in this forum. ===== Reprint of letter sent to upstream mainters (with cosmetic changes): ( I've taken the liberty of including part of Steven's reply since it has good usefull info in case someone here is having trouble" Steven French writes: > To address a few of your questions smb.conf is not needed or used by the > cifs vfs. > > The (0) in the mount options would represent flags but is not being > populated by the kernel code or the mount table (I need to check which of > the two routines is the one that populates this particular view of the > mount status). Mounts "r" vs. "rw" are not particular meaningful unless > the kernel enforces them locally before it gets to the vfs (I need to check > if that is the case) - the local "r" vs. "rw" flags are invisible to the > server which does the authorization decision. Likely the lack of ability > to write is caused by the server thinking you are a different id, or one > for which the ACL denies write. NOTE this [emphasis added -hp (NET SESSION can be typed in a dos window)] > Try "NET SESSION" on the server to see > what id the server thinks you are. By doing "cat /proc/fs/cifs/DebugData" > you may also be able to see if your user authenticated as a "guest" rather > than a normal user. Steven, I sent you data from the suggested diagnostics above but never heard back. Since then I've backed up a few versions in kernels and recompiled one to reinable smbfs. Currently running kernel-2.6.1-1.65 with smbfs enabled. I'm seeing something that appears to be an anomally. First these are the mount parameters from fstab that I use for testing the two protocols: //192.168.0.15/J-ahn-d /mnt/J-ahn-d cifs username=reader,password="" 0 0 //exp-xp/J-ahn-d /mnt/J-ahn-d smbfs username=reader,password="" 0 0 I've been tinkering with parameters then comment one out and mount, test etc. (All commands are done as root) What I'm seeing here is that mounted smbfs as above and the share is writable umount comment out smbfs line and uncomment cifs line then, Mount again: Share is mounted but is read only. The cifs code doesn't seem to care about the notation for host name. That is, cifs mounts with either: //192.168.0.15/J-ahn-d or //exp-xp/J-ahn-d But what is causing the read only state? As noted in my previous message... NET SESSION indicates share is mounted as reader whether its smbfs of cifs Aren't the options for smbfs and cifs mostly similar? Is there something I'm overlooking in the parameters that has to be different for cifs compared to smbfs. What is supposed to be better about cifs? From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri Mar 5 14:23:42 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:23:42 +0100 Subject: up2date gui appears hosed after 3-4-04 updates In-Reply-To: <40488A64.3020100@earthlink.net> References: <20040305132148.6081.39732.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> <40488A64.3020100@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40488D6E.8060007@gmx.de> Jon Savage wrote: > When I run up2date I get: > # up2date > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? > sys.exit(main() or 0) > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 880, in main > from up2date_client import gui > File "gui.py", line 20, in ? > ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: > gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg00266.html Hey, If you see an error like: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode > From the above output I suspect that the problem > lies with the libgnomeui-2.so.0 (just a SWAG) > > I don't see anything in bugzilla you need to update your libgnomeui to the latest in Raw Hide - i.e. to use gtk2-2.3.5-1 you need libgnomeui-2.5.90.1-1. -- shrek-m From mike at netlyncs.com Fri Mar 5 14:36:50 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:36:50 -0600 Subject: new package: gnome-netstatus In-Reply-To: <1078482892.4084.49.camel@laptop> References: <1078482892.4084.49.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <1078497410.4847.3.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 04:34, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > The Network Monitor is a little applet which sits on your > panel flashing away at you so as to give you an idea of whats > happening on your network interface. Be cool if you held your mouse over it or something and it gave you what the traffic throughput and output were currently, such as what the connection rate is while you were uploading and downloading. > It also has a little dialog to give you more information about > the network interface. As mentioned in another email about root access, here is the bug # on it... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117567 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "You think it's funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Fri Mar 5 14:48:11 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:48:11 -0600 Subject: ess soundcard not detected In-Reply-To: <4047E696.9070508@insight.rr.com> References: <404604C8.2020708@precisiondrive.com> <40468BDE.1080006@insight.rr.com> <40476800.2080304@precisiondrive.com> <4047E696.9070508@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <4048932B.9020209@precisiondrive.com> Well I have done a bit more and I have the module that I am supposed to load /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko But modprobe loads it with an error FATAL: Error inserting snd_es18xx (/lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko): No such device So I bet I have to have some IO/DMA settings for this isa probably PNP device. I found a alsaconf script and ran that and it got the module loaded but it still was not useable, I am guessing that either I am missing a link in /dev (dev/mixer) or permissions are wrong on the /dev entries. Dave Jim Cornette wrote: > Dave Waller wrote: > >> I checked bugzilla and there are a few entries that hit but none >> current, or none that match. >> Do you know what I should look for in the kudzu for the bug, I can >> try to fix it. >> >> Dave >> >> Jim Cornette wrote: >> >>> I believe that there is a typo in kudzu that references your >>> soundcard incorrectly. The numbers don't match. >> > > > The thread that I thought stated the error in renaming was the below > thread. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/msg01351.html > > > I checked the available soundcards in the 2.4 kernel version and only > got the below listing related to sound for ess. > > > es1370.o es1371.o esssolo1.o > > If you look in /lib/modules/kernel/kernel/drivers/sound you > might see a module that is named close to your sound card type. > > I don't know for sure what is there with 2.6 kernel modules. I seem to > recall that the alsa are prefixed with snd- > > I'm curious now and really don't know how to fix your problem now. > i'll have to take a look on the drivers available when I get o the > test computer. > > Jim > > .. > >>> >>> Dave Waller wrote: >>> >>>> I have a compaq deskpro with a built-in ess 1869 soundcard and it >>>> worked just fine in RH7, 8, 9 and Fedora Core 1, but it now does >>>> not work. >>> > > From bpm at ec-group.com Fri Mar 5 14:50:41 2004 From: bpm at ec-group.com (Brian Millett) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:50:41 -0600 Subject: libgnomeui/gtk+ ABI problems In-Reply-To: <1078481090.4084.38.camel@laptop> References: <1078481090.4084.38.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <20040305085041.0ef6df4c@shaka.ec-group.com> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:04:51 +0000 Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hey, > If you see an error like: > > /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: > gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode > > you need to update your libgnomeui to the latest in Raw Hide - > i.e. to > use gtk2-2.3.5-1 you need libgnomeui-2.5.90.1-1. > > What happened was libgnomeui was using some recently introduced > gtk+ > functions which were removed in gtk+ 2.3.5 so we needed to respin > libgnomeui. I didn't add a Conflicts: since I don't think that's > neccessary for random transient Raw Hide b0rkage. I guess that depends on how many emails, bugzilla reports, etc. that will clog up the system for "random transient Raw Hide b0rkage". I think that a little more care, or notification of "random transient Raw Hide b0rkage" would be a better process to follow. My .02$ -- Brian Millett - Technologist Rex "You have forgotten something." -- Kosh (to Sinclair), "Chrysalis" From rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu Fri Mar 5 14:52:32 2004 From: rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu (Rob Myers) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 09:52:32 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 07:40, seth vidal wrote: > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. does this mean updates will be pushed to mirrors as well? rob. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 5 14:55:13 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 05 Mar 2004 09:55:13 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1078498513.30331.5.camel@opus> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 09:52, Rob Myers wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 07:40, seth vidal wrote: > > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. > > does this mean updates will be pushed to mirrors as well? what updates? This is fc1 for x86_64. -sv From rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu Fri Mar 5 15:02:27 2004 From: rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu (Rob Myers) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:02:27 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1078498513.30331.5.camel@opus> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> <1078498513.30331.5.camel@opus> Message-ID: <1078498947.10385.57.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 09:55, seth vidal wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 09:52, Rob Myers wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 07:40, seth vidal wrote: > > > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. > > > > does this mean updates will be pushed to mirrors as well? > > what updates? This is fc1 for x86_64. you know the updates, bugfixes, security patches that will inevitably be coming in the future. in other words, will an x86_64 directory appear here: http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/1/ ? rob. From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 15:04:01 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:04:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: gtk screwed after update today In-Reply-To: <1078492886.4084.64.camel@laptop> References: <1078492886.4084.64.camel@laptop> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 13:10, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > Not sure what package is to blame, but after today's update gtk is pretty > > much screwed. > > > ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: > > gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode > > See my mail earlier about this problem .. You can probably fix this by doing a command line up2date of the libgnomeui package, ie. up2date libgnomeui Michael Young From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 15:10:53 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:10:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Kernel numbering query Message-ID: For a matter of interest can anyone tell me why we have suddenly jumped from kernel-2.6.3-1.118 to kernel-2.6.3-2.1.238. In particular why 238 and is it coincidence that 238=(118+1)*2)? Michael Young From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 5 15:20:49 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 05 Mar 2004 10:20:49 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1078498947.10385.57.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> <1078498513.30331.5.camel@opus> <1078498947.10385.57.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1078500049.30331.7.camel@opus> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 10:02, Rob Myers wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 09:55, seth vidal wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 09:52, Rob Myers wrote: > > > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 07:40, seth vidal wrote: > > > > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. > > > > > > does this mean updates will be pushed to mirrors as well? > > > > what updates? This is fc1 for x86_64. > > you know the updates, bugfixes, security patches that will inevitably be > coming in the future. > > in other words, will an x86_64 directory appear here: > http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/1/ ? > take a look. -sv From nbecker at hns.com Fri Mar 5 15:23:49 2004 From: nbecker at hns.com (Neal D. Becker) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 10:23:49 -0500 Subject: Kernel numbering query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403051023.51313.nbecker@hns.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 05 March 2004 10:10 am, M A Young wrote: > For a matter of interest can anyone tell me why we have suddenly jumped > from kernel-2.6.3-1.118 to kernel-2.6.3-2.1.238. In particular why 238 and > is it coincidence that 238=(118+1)*2)? > OOOoo, numeroligy! - -- Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASJuGMDqogpR5tkMRAj62AJ9Rqy18w2xK6DQjVZOFtXPKFIOAeACaA1N6 W651I8berzmp38j3cx0d108= =OOy2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From aboyce at conduit-it.com Fri Mar 5 15:26:10 2004 From: aboyce at conduit-it.com (Andrew Boyce-Lewis) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:26:10 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <200403050810.58993.czar@czarc.net> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> <200403050810.58993.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1078500370.3889.8.camel@bacon> woohoo! Is there anywhere the release notes might be found? On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 08:10, Gene C. wrote: > On Friday 05 March 2004 07:40, seth vidal wrote: > > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. > > GREAT! > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu Fri Mar 5 15:31:23 2004 From: rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu (Rob Myers) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:31:23 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1078500049.30331.7.camel@opus> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> <1078498513.30331.5.camel@opus> <1078498947.10385.57.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> <1078500049.30331.7.camel@opus> Message-ID: <1078500683.10385.62.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 10:20, seth vidal wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 10:02, Rob Myers wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 09:55, seth vidal wrote: > > > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 09:52, Rob Myers wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 07:40, seth vidal wrote: > > > > > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. > > > > > > > > does this mean updates will be pushed to mirrors as well? > > > > > > what updates? This is fc1 for x86_64. > > > > you know the updates, bugfixes, security patches that will inevitably be > > coming in the future. > > > > in other words, will an x86_64 directory appear here: > > http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/1/ ? > > > > take a look. do you mean keep an eye on? cuz right now (10:28:29 EST) there are only 2 directories there, i386 and SRPMS. or am i missing something? rob. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 5 15:34:15 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 05 Mar 2004 10:34:15 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1078500683.10385.62.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> <1078498513.30331.5.camel@opus> <1078498947.10385.57.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> <1078500049.30331.7.camel@opus> <1078500683.10385.62.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1078500854.30331.12.camel@opus> > > > > > > in other words, will an x86_64 directory appear here: > > > http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/1/ ? > > > > > > > take a look. > > do you mean keep an eye on? cuz right now (10:28:29 EST) there are only > 2 directories there, i386 and SRPMS. right. When there are updates, they'll be there. -sv From jkeating at j2solutions.net Fri Mar 5 16:10:55 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:10:55 -0800 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <40486F83.7040107@warcry.com> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <40486F83.7040107@warcry.com> Message-ID: <200403050810.55082.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 05 March 2004 04:16, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: > Unless you guys bundle core 1 with a 2.6 kernel I'm unable to use it > since I use SATA and FC1 or even the x86_64 FC1 does not detect.. I have > both Promise and Silicon Image controlers.. no beans.. Try again. FC1 x86_64 was built with a newer kernel that has the libata patch built in. At our labs we're able to install to Promise sata (controller based, not raid), as well as VIA, and some intel ICH5 chips. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) Mondo DevTeam (www.mondorescue.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD0DBQFASKaP4v2HLvE71NURAt6IAJUSPtVH1h60luC+r9qzea2o0FUEAJiYU44C XsFYJZFAMxzDTHXQ0gdb =Lyu4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From notting at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 16:32:48 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:32:48 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20040305163248.GA3215@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Rob Myers (rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu) said: > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 07:40, seth vidal wrote: > > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. > > does this mean updates will be pushed to mirrors as well? In fact, they are there now. Bill From alan at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 16:38:38 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:38:38 -0500 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings In-Reply-To: <40486DE6.5010308@warcry.com> References: <40486DE6.5010308@warcry.com> Message-ID: <20040305163838.GA7041@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 06:09:10AM -0600, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: > Can you redhat guys bug one of your lawyers and see if we can finally > bundle a Dvd player with Linux. These court rulings seem to allow it > now since it's deemed a non trade secret now. I suggest you look at the current rulings on DVD copying tools From brian at krahmer.com Fri Mar 5 16:54:43 2004 From: brian at krahmer.com (Brian Krahmer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:54:43 -0800 Subject: disable IPV6? Message-ID: <006601c402d2$8f959870$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Randy, I was getting slow networking due to ipv6, because every connection I made would first be attempted using ipv6, even though it wasn't fully configured, then ipv4. IIRC, what you're missing is the following line in /etc/modprobe.conf (after the include /etc/modprobe.conf.dist) alias net-pf-10 off I also threw in an 'alias ipv6 off', but I'm not sure that it's needed. Doesn't seem to print any errors. -- Brian Krahmer - brian at krahmer.com - http://www.krahmer.com Buy Symantec stock - SYMC. :) From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Mar 5 16:56:38 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:56:38 +0000 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings In-Reply-To: <20040305163838.GA7041@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40486DE6.5010308@warcry.com> <20040305163838.GA7041@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1078505798.353.18.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, > > Can you redhat guys bug one of your lawyers and see if we can finally > > bundle a Dvd player with Linux. These court rulings seem to allow it > > now since it's deemed a non trade secret now. > > I suggest you look at the current rulings on DVD copying tools From memory (and I think we're talking about that company selling DVD copying software here), the deCSS technology is not illegal nor is it a trade secret anymore (post DVD Jon). However, software which utilises deCSS for the purposes of copying (which as soon as you bundle something with deCSS in you have access to) is illegal. It's almost as daft a situation as not being able to bundle an MP3 plugin for xmms anymore due to some rotter who has decided to patent a formula. Personally, I'd love xine to be bundled with FC2, but I think there is more chance of the current president of the USA being found to have anything other than bone between his ears! TTFN Paul TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong, but with authority" - Dr Who. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Because, you know, any good RedHat thread isn't complete without an OT ad hominem against the President! Bush lied! People died! Plastic turkey! No blood for Haliburton! Wheee! Am I doing this correctly? Or should I trawl the Democratic Underground forums in order to correct my form? - -- - ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFASLNYN50Q8DVvcvkRAk4+AJ9U8tgL5/Dlcps3rNsLJiJmA4NRtACfVLny wh0WUm+4uGm+FCl+x/0zjrw= =wKGv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri Mar 5 17:11:00 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 18:11:00 +0100 Subject: up2date gui appears hosed after 3-4-04 updates In-Reply-To: <006701c402d3$ed44a370$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> References: <006701c402d3$ed44a370$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Message-ID: <4048B4A4.5080202@gmx.de> Brian Krahmer wrote: >>you need to update your libgnomeui to the latest in Raw Hide - i.e. to >>use gtk2-2.3.5-1 you need libgnomeui-2.5.90.1-1. >> >> >thanks shrek-m! > > thanks Mark McLoughlin :-) -- shrek-m From monica_news04 at yahoo.ca Fri Mar 5 17:14:36 2004 From: monica_news04 at yahoo.ca (Monica) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:14:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: no more free ptys Message-ID: <20040305171436.31919.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, I have a utility that runs in Windows 2000 (sorry, the server for this product is only available for this o/s..) and it is supposed to be able to open a pty master/slave (such as /dev/ptya0 and /dev/ttya0) on the Linux server (Fedora Core2 Test1) and then do what it needs to do on the server. This is not happening with Fedora. The logs show that it can't open and find a free pty. This worked perfectly fine with RedHat Linux 9. Does this look like a configuration error or fix with Fedora or something that should be changed in the utility? Thanks, Monica. --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthony.seward at ieee.org Fri Mar 5 17:17:57 2004 From: anthony.seward at ieee.org (Anthony Joseph Seward) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:17:57 -0700 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings In-Reply-To: <4048B358.30101@atl.lmco.com> References: <40486DE6.5010308@warcry.com> <20040305163838.GA7041@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1078505798.353.18.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <4048B358.30101@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <1078507075.2503.7.camel@sonylap1> Please don't feed the trolls. Tono -- Anthony Joseph Seward From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Mar 5 17:20:13 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 17:20:13 +0000 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings In-Reply-To: <4048B358.30101@atl.lmco.com> References: <40486DE6.5010308@warcry.com> <20040305163838.GA7041@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1078505798.353.18.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <4048B358.30101@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <1078507213.353.20.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, Being in the UK and having nothing but distrust of all politians... > Bush lied! People died! Plastic turkey! No blood for Haliburton! > > Wheee! Am I doing this correctly? Or should I trawl the Democratic > Underground forums in order to correct my form? Close, have a banana ;-p TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong, but with authority" - Dr Who. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Mar 5 17:20:46 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:20:46 -0500 Subject: up2date complains about redhat-lsb needing /usr/bin/kill In-Reply-To: <200403050641.31179.czar@czarc.net> References: <1078460791.21714.156.camel@matrix> <200403050641.31179.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1078507246.20016.73.camel@dragon.sns.ornl.gov> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 06:41, Gene C. wrote: > On Thursday 04 March 2004 23:26, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > I can't get my up2date going because of some redhat-lsb dependency. > > > > What is the deal? How does one tell update to forget about redhat-lsb > > since it is not in the update list anyway? > > > > Maybe there is another package package in the list related to redhat-lsb > > that I am not aware of. > > OK, this has been discussed on this mailing list previously so I could just > say ... check the archives. But searching is currently not working/disabled > and a manual search can be a lot of work. > > You could also check bugzilla ... there is a report on this. You should > consider doing that in the future. > > Anyway, here is the deal again ... /usr/bin/kill has been moved from the > coreutils package to the util-linux package. You current util-linux package > is 2.12pre-3 and the updated util-linux package in development/rawhide is > 2.12-4. Unfortunately, rpm/up2date consider the new 2.12-4 package to be > "older" than the 2.12pre-3 package. To get around this you need to do the > rpm manually -- > > rpm -Uvh --oldpackage coreutils... util-linux... > > You will need to download the two packages manually rather than using up2date. > You also need to update/install the two packages at the same time to get > around the switching of /usr/bin/kill from one package to the other. Thanks for your help. This worked great for me. > -- > Gene > From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Fri Mar 5 17:23:13 2004 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:23:13 -0500 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings In-Reply-To: <1078507075.2503.7.camel@sonylap1> References: <40486DE6.5010308@warcry.com> <20040305163838.GA7041@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1078505798.353.18.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <4048B358.30101@atl.lmco.com> <1078507075.2503.7.camel@sonylap1> Message-ID: <4048B781.1020907@atl.lmco.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Anthony Joseph Seward wrote: | Please don't feed the trolls. | | Tono Duly noted. Just caught me at a raw moment, I guess. - -- - ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFASLeBN50Q8DVvcvkRAjwxAJ9AQP96sexAgmp2FYL7lyPoWuPqqwCdGjvJ LySEsN4lnhDmDTah3qe1ahM= =xzp/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alan at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 17:23:23 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:23:23 -0500 Subject: no more free ptys In-Reply-To: <20040305171436.31919.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040305171436.31919.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040305172323.GA10932@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 12:14:36PM -0500, Monica wrote: > I have a utility that runs in Windows 2000 (sorry, the server for this product is only available for this o/s..) and it is supposed to be able to open a pty master/slave (such as /dev/ptya0 and /dev/ttya0) on the Linux server (Fedora Core2 Test1) and then do what it needs to do on the server. This is not happening with Fedora. The logs show that it can't open and find a free pty. Really it should be using Unix98 ttys anyway (/dev/ptmx) but I'm not aware of the specific reason that old style pty stopped working From PMehta at soa.org Fri Mar 5 17:23:01 2004 From: PMehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:23:01 -0600 Subject: pcmcia still not working after 2.6.3 upgrade Message-ID: Hi, Upgraded to new kernel 2.6.3-2.1.238 ... and Yay it is working...at least i can see the pcmcia card light up ....Now need to see if it works with a 128 bit WEP key.... - Pratik >>> ernesto at ornl.gov 3/4/2004 10:06:55 PM >>> Hi, On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 22:50, Pratik Mehta wrote: > Nope Does not work. In fact i do not know what is service referring to... service provides a way to start linux services. After your pcmcia has been started. Then go ahead and run "neat" The neat should provide a nice gui for configuring your wireless. > I take the card out and put it back in and also that does not do anything. > > - Pratik > > >>> ernesto at ornl.gov 03/04/04 20:31 PM >>> > On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 21:02, Pratik Mehta wrote: > > i upgraded to 2.6.3 and it seems that the Cisco Aironet 350 pcmcia card still does not start. But when i boot in windows it works correctly...... > > > I have the same problem. However, to get around this for now; I > manually start the pcmcia interface as root. > ================================================== > service pcmcia start > ================================================== > > Now, we're back in business > > > > > > > > > - Pratik > -- > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From randy at raba.com Fri Mar 5 17:30:22 2004 From: randy at raba.com (Randy L Schrickel) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:30:22 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <006601c402d2$8f959870$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> References: <006601c402d2$8f959870$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Message-ID: <4048B92E.90702@raba.com> Brian Krahmer wrote: > I was getting slow networking due to ipv6, because every connection I made > would first be attempted using ipv6, even though it wasn't fully configured, > then ipv4. > IIRC, what you're missing is the following line in /etc/modprobe.conf > (after the include /etc/modprobe.conf.dist) > > alias net-pf-10 off Thanks Brian, that sounds promising. I'll give it a try as soon as I get home and on my Linux box. Curious why more people haven't reported this. Is it card related? Network related? Is IPV6 on for everyone, but for some reason it's not causing everyone a problem? Will report back later. randy From lewt at warcry.com Fri Mar 5 17:51:13 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (lewt at warcry.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:51:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <200403050810.55082.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <40486F83.7040107@warcry.com> <200403050810.55082.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <29757.199.74.155.50.1078509073.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 05 March 2004 04:16, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: >> Unless you guys bundle core 1 with a 2.6 kernel I'm unable to use it >> since I use SATA and FC1 or even the x86_64 FC1 does not detect.. I have >> both Promise and Silicon Image controlers.. no beans.. > > Try again. FC1 x86_64 was built with a newer kernel that has the libata > patch built in. At our labs we're able to install to Promise sata > (controller based, not raid), as well as VIA, and some intel ICH5 chips. > > - -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) > Mondo DevTeam (www.mondorescue.org) > GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > > Was I helpful? Let others know: > http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD0DBQFASKaP4v2HLvE71NURAt6IAJUSPtVH1h60luC+r9qzea2o0FUEAJiYU44C > XsFYJZFAMxzDTHXQ0gdb > =Lyu4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Perhaps there's a boot option I should be using? Anyone know which? Thanks From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Fri Mar 5 17:57:42 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:57:42 -0600 Subject: Where's Window Shade? Message-ID: <4048BF96.4090109@precisiondrive.com> In previous incarnations, including FC 1, double clicking on on the window title bar the window "window shaded" which I am very fond of. I can't seem to find the place to change this. I know it is a function of Metacity, perhaps it was lost in the hide-the-window-manager-from-the-user-dept? Also on the Metacity rant... I really miss themes like Beos where the title bar was not restricted to the whole width of the window. Dave Waller From jkeating at j2solutions.net Fri Mar 5 17:54:40 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:54:40 -0800 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <29757.199.74.155.50.1078509073.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050810.55082.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <29757.199.74.155.50.1078509073.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> Message-ID: <200403050954.40334.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Friday 05 March 2004 09:51, lewt at warcry.com wrote: > Perhaps there's a boot option I should be using? Anyone know which? No, mine got autodetected. Are you using the official Fedora Core 1 x86_64 (released today) ? -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From monty19 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 5 18:00:24 2004 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:00:24 -0500 Subject: VMWARE ethernet + sound Message-ID: I have no idea why sound does not load during boot up as it should. I have not been able to get it working using /etc/modules.conf, even though I've triple checked it and am pretty sure I had set it up correctly. What you can though is modprobe the sound driver; I forget if it is sb (not in front of a machine right now to look; also did this on fc1 not fc2 so...), sb16, or es371, but if I recall it is one of those; you'll know at any rate when you have sound. Then you can edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local and enter the line modprobe xxx where xxx is the appropiate sound module. That should get sound working; the fix for networking someone already posted so just follow that. cheers, jason From bpm at ec-group.com Fri Mar 5 18:06:43 2004 From: bpm at ec-group.com (Brian Millett) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:06:43 -0600 Subject: Where's Window Shade? In-Reply-To: <4048BF96.4090109@precisiondrive.com> References: <4048BF96.4090109@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <20040305120643.50e0afbb@shaka.ec-group.com> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:57:42 -0600 Dave Waller wrote: > In previous incarnations, including FC 1, double clicking on on the > window title bar the window "window shaded" which I am very fond of. > I can't seem to find the place to change this. I know it is a > function of Metacity, perhaps it was lost in the > hide-the-window-manager-from-the-user-dept? Hey thanks for the hint. I went to Preferences->Windows and selected "roll up" as the action when double-click on window bar. Works great now. -- Brian Millett - Technologist Rex "I warn you Mariel, do not be overconfident. If I were married to Londo Mollari I'd be concerned." 'G'Kar, if you were married to Londo Mollari, we'd all be concerned.' -- G'Kar and Mariel, "Soul Mates" From akabi at speakeasy.net Fri Mar 5 18:37:45 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:37:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Kernel numbering query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 5, 2004 at 15:10, M A Young in a soothing rage wrote: >For a matter of interest can anyone tell me why we have suddenly jumped >from kernel-2.6.3-1.118 to kernel-2.6.3-2.1.238. In particular why 238 and >is it coincidence that 238=(118+1)*2)? Every patch bumps the number up a notch... N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Questions are never indiscreet, answers sometimes are. -- Oscar Wilde 13:37:06 up 92 days, 18:24, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From PMehta at soa.org Fri Mar 5 19:21:55 2004 From: PMehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:21:55 -0600 Subject: fluxbox FC2test1 Message-ID: Has anybody tested fluxbox on FC2test1 ?? - Pratik From brian at krahmer.com Fri Mar 5 19:34:19 2004 From: brian at krahmer.com (Brian Krahmer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:34:19 -0800 Subject: NPTL process time patch Message-ID: <009001c402e8$dad580f0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> I finally dug into procps, since it looked like no one else was going to. I created a patch that will let top, ps, etc. account for processing time generated by children threads. You can see it in bugzilla under bug ID 116783. It's kind of a hack, but it works for me! brian -- Brian Krahmer - brian at krahmer.com - http://www.krahmer.com Buy Symantec stock - SYMC. :) From piet at www.piet.net Fri Mar 5 19:39:41 2004 From: piet at www.piet.net (Piet Delaney) Date: 05 Mar 2004 11:39:41 -0800 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 (Fedora Test 2) In-Reply-To: <20040305163248.GA3215@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> <20040305163248.GA3215@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1078515581.23344.808.camel@www.piet.net> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 08:32, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Rob Myers (rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu) said: > > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 07:40, seth vidal wrote: > > > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. > > > > does this mean updates will be pushed to mirrors as well? > > In fact, they are there now. I just got: 404 Not Found The requested URL /pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/1/x86_64/XFree86-100dpi-fonts-0-4.3.0-2.90.43.i386.hdr was not found on this server. Looks like an awful lot of updates. How are they best installed? -piet > > Bill > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- piet at www.piet.net From notting at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 19:47:54 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:47:54 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 (Fedora Test 2) In-Reply-To: <1078515581.23344.808.camel@www.piet.net> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> <1078498352.10385.53.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> <20040305163248.GA3215@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1078515581.23344.808.camel@www.piet.net> Message-ID: <20040305194754.GB442@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Piet Delaney (piet at www.piet.net) said: > > In fact, they are there now. > > I just got: > > 404 Not Found > The requested URL > /pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/1/x86_64/XFree86-100dpi-fonts-0-4.3.0-2.90.43.i386.hdr was not found on this server. I'd assume you would. That's an old RHL9 errata. > Looks like an awful lot of updates. How are they best installed? RPM, up2date, yum, etc... Bill From zachw at termdex.com Fri Mar 5 19:52:08 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:52:08 -0500 Subject: epiphany 1.10 rpm errors Message-ID: <1078516328.2108.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Resolving dependencies ....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package epiphany needs installed, this is not available. Package epiphany needs is, this is not available. Package epiphany needs not, this is not available. Package epiphany needs package, this is not available. Is there a Bugzilla case for this? Zach From piet at www.piet.net Fri Mar 5 20:06:18 2004 From: piet at www.piet.net (Piet Delaney) Date: 05 Mar 2004 12:06:18 -0800 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050700.38886.czar@czarc.net> <200403050736.00440.czar@czarc.net> <1078490453.20005.25.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1078517178.23346.820.camel@www.piet.net> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 04:40, seth vidal wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 07:36 -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > > On Friday 05 March 2004 07:10, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > > How can I help better, fc1-test1 + recompiling updates, or development and > > > keep on upgrading? It looks like test2 will be based on devel, so maybe > > > it's better to test it and file bugs. > > > > Right now, I believe we are in a "hurry up and wait" situation as far as FC1 > > x86_64 is concerned. Justin and the Red Hat folks are trying to move it > > forward but it has not been annouced yet. I keep hoping "real soon now". > > fc1 x86_64 final is coming out today. Great, looks like they are ready to burn from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/x86_64/iso/ and the mirror sites as well. I'm putting together a MSI 9131 today, any suggestions? I'd like to try kgdb via the network from a 32 bit i386, I thought I'd likely have to compile gdb for cross debugging the x86_64. -piet -piet > > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- piet at www.piet.net From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 5 21:42:26 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:42:26 -0800 Subject: Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts In-Reply-To: <4045BAE8.6020701@comcast.net> References: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> <20040302234829.GA13813@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <404570EF.3050308@comcast.net> <20040303072927.GA15158@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <4045BAE8.6020701@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040305214226.GB24828@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:00:56AM -0500, jim tate wrote: > Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell wrote: > >On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:45:19AM -0500, jim tate wrote: > >>Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell wrote: > >>>On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:02:51PM -0500, jim tate wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Fedora2-test1 > >>>>Mozilla,Firefox,Konqueror all three are very slow at Resolving Hosts > >>>On the two linux boxes compare the results of "chkconfig --list | sort " > >>>Also on both machines compare: > >>> /etc/resolv.conf resolver configuration file > >>> /etc/host.conf resolver configuration file > >>> /etc/hosts > >>> .... > >>You were right after running "tethereal" and going to > >>http://linuxtoday.com, you can see where > >>How do I correct this on the Fedora2-test1 box. Ok so lets look at things one at a time. Please post /etc/resolv.conf for both boxes. Do you have port filtering (iptables or ipchains) turned on. If yes to iptables or ipchains how are your filters set. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From PMehta at soa.org Fri Mar 5 21:43:44 2004 From: PMehta at soa.org (Pratik Mehta) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:43:44 -0600 Subject: Wireless Card Setup - Small problems Message-ID: Hi, I have been trying to setup my wireless card on Dell Insipiron 5150 A30 bios revision. It is a Cisco 350 PCMCIA Card. The pcmcia is working the green light starts up. Then i do: iwconfig eth2 essid=xyz key=xxxxxx dhclient eth2 but it does not seem to work....it shows me that it is configured but does not work..... The warning that i get is: Warning device driver compiled with wireless extension version 16 and the system is using version 15. Has anybody been successfully able to get this working...This is the last part of the problem in my system.....Thanks. - Pratik From czar at czarc.net Fri Mar 5 21:49:59 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:49:59 -0500 Subject: comment on FC1 x86_64 iso images Message-ID: <200403051649.59796.czar@czarc.net> The ISOs for previous Red Hat and Fedora distributions usually have the GPL, README, etc. on every ISO image. This is not the case for the FC1 x86_64 images. Is this a problem? -- Gene From adamo97 at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 21:55:04 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:55:04 -0500 Subject: USB Mouse Not Working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>>> Adam Scarcella wrote: >>>> >>>> I recently upgraded to the latest rawhide development packages, including >>>> kernel 2.6.3 and almost everything works, except for my Optical USB mouse. >>>> It's an MS IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 >>>> >>>> It still works fine when I boot with kernel 2.4.22 >>>> >>>> Can someone please help me get my stupid MS mouse to work again? >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> >>>> Adam Scarcella =) >>>> >>>> >>> Do you use /dev/input/mice as mouse device? >>> >>> Alexander >>> >>> >> >> I'm not sure if I am using /dev/input/mice, how do I find out? >> >> And if I am using /dev/input/mice - what does that mean? >> >> Adam =) >> >> >> >> > Check XF86Config > > line /dev/input/mice > > should be there twice > Yes, I checked "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config" and I found "/dev/input/mice" twice. Once for each of: Identifier "Mouse0" Identifier "DevInputMice" But what does that mean? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Adam =) From lewt at warcry.com Fri Mar 5 22:03:47 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:03:47 -0600 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings In-Reply-To: <20040305163838.GA7041@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40486DE6.5010308@warcry.com> <20040305163838.GA7041@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4048F943.9050504@warcry.com> Not in the sense of copying DVD's in Viewing them. I dont care to copy anything other than data to dvd's since I'm sure normal dvd's are 2 layer and couldnt fit on a single layer cd. Of course like any of my music Cd's I keep copies in my car and the originals in their cases. Keeps them new. Same as I did with cassette tapes. Alan Cox wrote: >On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 06:09:10AM -0600, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: > > >>Can you redhat guys bug one of your lawyers and see if we can finally >>bundle a Dvd player with Linux. These court rulings seem to allow it >>now since it's deemed a non trade secret now. >> >> > >I suggest you look at the current rulings on DVD copying tools > > > > From davej at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 19:56:56 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:56:56 +0000 Subject: Kernel numbering query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040305195656.GB26232@redhat.com> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 03:10:53PM +0000, M A Young wrote: > For a matter of interest can anyone tell me why we have suddenly jumped > from kernel-2.6.3-1.118 to kernel-2.6.3-2.1.238. In particular why 238 and > is it coincidence that 238=(118+1)*2)? Big change of strategy. Until yesterday, we had two 2.6 kernels. The FC2 kernel which I was maintaining, and Arjan's RHEL4-gonnabe kernel. After a lot of discussion about it, we decided to merge the differences, and over the last week or so, the differences between the two got less and less, to the point where the only differences were some extra features in the RHEL4 kernel. At this point, we realised that the amount of work thats getting done twice (like updating to the latest upstream snapshot) is a waste of resources, and testing for a lot of folks got a little confusing "I see this bug in Daves 116 kernel but not in Arjan's 214 kernel" requires quite a bit of thinking to figure out the differences. So.. to cut a long story short, FC2 got the RHEL4 kernel. Which means Fedora users gained.. - Tux - The 4g patch for big boxen - The syscall auditting infrastructure - A couple other smaller patches And from our side of the fence.. - Consolidated bug reports (RHEL kernel bugs == Fedora kernel bugs) - Shared fixes. For Fedora 1, it was hard at times for some of our developers to take time away from RHEL to work on Fedora, which has meant a lot of bugs have been lingering much longer than any of us would have liked. For FC2, any fixes those guys come up with for RHEL are applicable to Fedora. - Less duplication of work between Arjan and myself. Leaving us both a lot more time to do other fun stuff like a) fixing bugs. b) pushing bits back upstream [This is still an important goal of the Fedora kernel]. The "lets stay close to mainline" mantra is something that both Arjan and myself both think makes sense to try and continue. The larger of the patches we now have in the kernel (things like 4g & the audit code actually stand a chance of going into upstream 2.6 at some point, and apart from Tux, the other bug stuff was already in the FC2 kernel anyway). So, there you have it. I now expect to be duly flamed for my part in this, but I'm hoping you'll all see the benefits of this far outweigh any downsides that you may come up with. So, flame on 8-) Dave From lewt at warcry.com Fri Mar 5 22:22:20 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:22:20 -0600 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: <200403050954.40334.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050810.55082.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <29757.199.74.155.50.1078509073.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> <200403050954.40334.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <4048FD9C.4000708@warcry.com> I'm assuming that the new one has the patch.. not the x86_64 test 1.. Have to download that one.. shame I already left work.. or I would of had it in 10 min.. Corey Jesse Keating wrote: >On Friday 05 March 2004 09:51, lewt at warcry.com wrote: > > >>Perhaps there's a boot option I should be using? Anyone know which? >> >> > >No, mine got autodetected. Are you using the official Fedora Core 1 >x86_64 (released today) ? > > > From bartk at clara.co.uk Fri Mar 5 22:34:54 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:34:54 +0000 Subject: USB Mouse Not Working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4049008E.5020100@clara.co.uk> Adam Scarcella wrote: >> ...... >> >> >> >> >Yes, I checked "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config" and I found "/dev/input/mice" >twice. Once for each of: > > Identifier "Mouse0" > Identifier "DevInputMice" > >But what does that mean? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? > >Adam =) > > > > There are two sections called "input device" in both of them U should have: Option "Device" /dev/input/mice if U do its a good thing and the X should start without a problem. -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From czar at czarc.net Fri Mar 5 23:07:04 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:07:04 -0500 Subject: FC1 x86_64 missing security updates Message-ID: <200403051807.04947.czar@czarc.net> Two security updates for lftp and libxml2 previously issued for FC1 i386 have not been incorporated into FC1 x86_64 or made available as updates. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117626 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117627 As far as I can tell, these are the only packages for which updates (testing or released) have been issued but have not been incorporated into FC1 x86_64 base, updates or testing. Since these are security updates, I recommend that users rebuild the packages themselves if they are not forthcoming in a reasonable amount of time. BTW, the FC1 x86_64 looks really good and a big THANK YOU to Justin Forbes for his efforts. -- Gene From davej at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 23:07:27 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 23:07:27 +0000 Subject: no more free ptys In-Reply-To: <20040305172323.GA10932@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040305171436.31919.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> <20040305172323.GA10932@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040305230727.GA19162@redhat.com> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 12:23:23PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 12:14:36PM -0500, Monica wrote: > > I have a utility that runs in Windows 2000 (sorry, the server for this product is only available for this o/s..) and it is supposed to be able to open a pty master/slave (such as /dev/ptya0 and /dev/ttya0) on the Linux server (Fedora Core2 Test1) and then do what it needs to do on the server. This is not happening with Fedora. The logs show that it can't open and find a free pty. > > Really it should be using Unix98 ttys anyway (/dev/ptmx) but I'm not > aware of the specific reason that old style pty stopped working They've been obsoleted and removed as "nothing used them". Aparently there are also security issues with the old style ptys, so I'm not jumping for joy over the idea of reenabling them. Dave From randysch at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 23:12:20 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 18:12:20 -0500 Subject: Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts In-Reply-To: <20040305214226.GB24828@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> <20040302234829.GA13813@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <404570EF.3050308@comcast.net> <20040303072927.GA15158@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <4045BAE8.6020701@comcast.net> <20040305214226.GB24828@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <40490954.3000209@comcast.net> You might also want to look at something totally different (sort of) which fixed the same problem for me. Turns out IPV6 was configured on my net interface, and the dns lookups were going through 3 or 4 failures before falling back to IPV4 and succeeding. If you ethereal the nslookup, IPV6 replies are marked with an "AAAA", while IPV4 are labeled "A". ifconfig on your interface will also show an IPV6 configuration. How to turn off IPV6? That's what I asked in a different thread on this list ("disable IPV^?"). The answer is to add a single line to your /etc/modprobe.conf file, right after the "include /etc/modprobe.conf.dist" line. The line you need is this: alias net-pf-10 off You may need to reboot after that, not sure if a "service network restart" will do the trick. Hope that helps, and thanks to Brian Krahmer for suggesting it! randy From randysch at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 23:15:38 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 18:15:38 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? Message-ID: <40490A1A.4060509@comcast.net> Thanks Brian, that did it! I got by with just the first change you mentioned, didn't try the 'alias ipv6 off' at all. Now the dns is quick as expected, and no signs of any ipv6 at all. I'm still curious why ipv6 was set up at all for me (us), and why not many others seem to have this problem. I wonder if it's not configured for them, or if it is, but for some reason it's not having the same impact? randy From aespinoza at concretec.com.bo Fri Mar 5 23:50:44 2004 From: aespinoza at concretec.com.bo (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Antonio_Jos=E9_Espinoza_Palenque?=) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:50:44 -0400 Subject: about the kernel 2.6 and ipsec Message-ID: <40491254.1050401@concretec.com.bo> Some help please: I want to use the new kernel 2.6 to create VPNs using the new ipsec native implementation. However, Fedora Core 2 is in testing phase, but, I would like to use the kernel 2.6 with a text only Fedora Core 1 installation. my questions are: Is it posible to mix the kernel 2.6 and Fedora Core1? if not, what possible problems do I face? Is the kernel 2.6 IPSEC implementation and the kernel itself mature enough for real world applications? Should I use freeswan and the kernel 2.4 instead? Thanks a lot, Antonio From alan at redhat.com Fri Mar 5 23:56:38 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:56:38 -0500 Subject: no more free ptys In-Reply-To: <20040305230727.GA19162@redhat.com> References: <20040305171436.31919.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> <20040305172323.GA10932@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040305230727.GA19162@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040305235638.GA31608@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 11:07:27PM +0000, Dave Jones wrote: > They've been obsoleted and removed as "nothing used them". A few things do, not much nowdays > Aparently there are also security issues with the old style ptys, so > I'm not jumping for joy over the idea of reenabling them. I wonder what LSB has to say on this. I suspect its only defining the C library pty interfaces which would make things fine From brian at krahmer.com Sat Mar 6 00:02:11 2004 From: brian at krahmer.com (Brian Krahmer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:02:11 -0800 Subject: disable IPV6? Message-ID: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> > Curious why more people haven't reported this. Is it card > related? Network related? Is IPV6 on for everyone, but for > some reason it's not causing everyone a problem? Personally, I would like to see an option in the setup for whether you want to enable IPV6 or not, with the default being Not. At least, until IPV6 becomes a reality for mainstream users. I noticed that we are both on comcast. I didn't play around with nslookup or dig, but perhaps comcast' dns servers are actually returning IPV6 addresses for some hosts. If we're getting v6 addresses, but can't connect to them because we haven't got a tunnel set up, it would explain the delays, as it attempts a v6 connection, fails, then falls back to v4. brian From mickeyboa at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 00:11:35 2004 From: mickeyboa at comcast.net (jim tate) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:11:35 -0500 Subject: Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts In-Reply-To: <40490954.3000209@comcast.net> References: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> <20040302234829.GA13813@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <404570EF.3050308@comcast.net> <20040303072927.GA15158@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <4045BAE8.6020701@comcast.net> <20040305214226.GB24828@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <40490954.3000209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <40491737.2090200@comcast.net> Randy Schrickel wrote: > You might also want to look at something totally different (sort of) > which fixed the same problem for me. > > Turns out IPV6 was configured on my net interface, and the dns lookups > were going through 3 or 4 failures before falling back to IPV4 and > succeeding. If you ethereal the nslookup, IPV6 replies are marked with > an "AAAA", while IPV4 are labeled "A". ifconfig on your interface will > also show an IPV6 configuration. > > How to turn off IPV6? That's what I asked in a different thread on > this list ("disable IPV^?"). The answer is to add a single line to > your /etc/modprobe.conf file, right after the "include > /etc/modprobe.conf.dist" line. The line you need is this: > > alias net-pf-10 off > > You may need to reboot after that, not sure if a "service network > restart" will do the trick. > > Hope that helps, and thanks to Brian Krahmer for suggesting it! > randy > > That line in /etc/modprobe.conf did the trick, Mozilla is fast now. Thanks guys for the help. Jim Tate From mrsam at courier-mta.com Sat Mar 6 00:22:08 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:22:08 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050810.55082.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <29757.199.74.155.50.1078509073.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> <200403050954.40334.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: Jesse Keating writes: > On Friday 05 March 2004 09:51, lewt at warcry.com wrote: >> Perhaps there's a boot option I should be using? Anyone know which? > > No, mine got autodetected. Are you using the official Fedora Core 1 > x86_64 (released today) ? That's funny, I think I'm subscribed to all announcement mailing list, and I can't seem to find any announcement. The first I've heard of it was on linuxtoday.com, and I have no idea where they got it from; furthermore the links in linuxtoday.com's annnouncement -- at least the ones to duke.edu, is pointing to the update directory for x86_64-recompiled versions of x86 FC1 errata. http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/x86_64/os/ doesn't really look like the full installation tree to me? >From looking at the master download directory on redhat.com, it looks like x86_64 installs the 2174 kernel build. If this is the same 2174 kernel I downloaded off duke.edu two weeks ago, then I already know that it's going to be blowing chunks. Big, juicy chunks. I think I'd rather wait for things to begin moving in Bugzilla, and hope that FC2 will be more stable. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Now to go back and read the yum/update threads and try to figure out why my yum fails every time! ;) randy From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sat Mar 6 00:31:44 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:31:44 -0800 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050954.40334.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <200403051631.45023.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Friday 05 March 2004 16:22, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > If this is the same 2174 kernel I downloaded off duke.edu two weeks > ago, then I already know that it's going to be blowing chunks. Big, > juicy chunks. I think I'd rather wait for things to begin moving in > Bugzilla, and hope that FC2 will be more stable. Can you be more specific as to which part of it blows chunks, so that we can resolve the issue? 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Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 6 00:51:45 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:51:45 -0500 Subject: yum will not run In-Reply-To: <20040306004207.22015.qmail@web11413.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040306004207.22015.qmail@web11413.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1078534304.22673.1.camel@binkley> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 16:42 -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > [root at markf78 root]# yum check-update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? > yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main > clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers > cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders > mi = cachedb.dbMatch() > UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment > 1. read the archives of this list it's been covered about 4 times 2. download the latest yum from rawhide, this is fixed. -sv From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 6 00:53:31 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:53:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: fedora core 2 test1 & sound Message-ID: <20040306005331.8415.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Hey everyone- does anyone know why sound support wasn't compiled into the kernel? any idea when this will be implemented? just curious, thanks... mark. p.s. sorry about the duplicate posts about yum and the duplicate posts about up2date. for some reason, unknownst to me, both messages were sent twice... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 6 00:55:58 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:55:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: yum will not run In-Reply-To: <1078534304.22673.1.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <20040306005558.19441.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Seth (and others)- sorry about posting something that's already been covered but the redhat list arhives are down. and, btw, i'm using the latest version of yum from rawhide. mark. --- seth vidal wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 16:42 -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > > [root at markf78 root]# yum check-update > > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > > Finding updated packages > > Downloading needed headers > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? > > yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) > > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main > > clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) > > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers > > cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) > > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders > > mi = cachedb.dbMatch() > > UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment > > > > 1. read the archives of this list it's been covered about 4 times > 2. download the latest yum from rawhide, this is fixed. > > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat Mar 6 01:00:05 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:00:05 -0500 Subject: ess soundcard not detected In-Reply-To: <4048932B.9020209@precisiondrive.com> References: <404604C8.2020708@precisiondrive.com> <40468BDE.1080006@insight.rr.com> <40476800.2080304@precisiondrive.com> <4047E696.9070508@insight.rr.com> <4048932B.9020209@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <40492295.6060604@insight.rr.com> Dave Waller wrote: > Well I have done a bit more and I have the module that I am supposed to > load > /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko > But modprobe loads it with an error > FATAL: Error inserting snd_es18xx > (/lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko): No such device > So I bet I have to have some IO/DMA settings for this isa probably PNP > device. > I found a alsaconf script and ran that and it got the module loaded but > it still was not useable, I am guessing that either I am missing a link > in /dev (dev/mixer) or permissions are wrong on the /dev entries. > > Dave With an AC 97 type soundcard, I have the excerpt below in /etc/modprobe.conf for sound. alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||: remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 Some sound configuration utility moved my modules line down a bit. The important information is most likely the below. alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 If you substitute snd-es18xx for each occurance of snd-intel8x0 in the modprobe.conf file, maybe the sound will work. I still have to right click on the sound icon and select "open volume control" with each boot in order to get sound. Out of curiousity, I ran modprobe snd-intel8x0 to see if I got any errors because the module already being loaded. Modprobe did not return any output. I was curious if an already loaded module would produce an already loaded error message or not. I ran it twice and no output shows for an already loaded module. Running lsmod lists the below sound related modules. I assume that other than the sound driver, things should be pretty similar. (Purely guessing). Note the one line from running the lsmod command is pretty long. Good luck, Jim snd_pcm_oss 48548 0 snd_mixer_oss 17024 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_intel8x0 33704 1 snd_ac97_codec 55940 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm 99208 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0 snd_timer 30212 1 snd_pcm gameport 5120 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_page_alloc 11524 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm snd_mpu401_uart 8960 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_rawmidi 26400 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 8072 1 snd_rawmidi snd 53476 9 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 9952 2 snd >>>> >>>> Dave Waller wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a compaq deskpro with a built-in ess 1869 soundcard and it >>>>> worked just fine in RH7, 8, 9 and Fedora Core 1, but it now does >>>>> not work. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat Mar 6 01:05:51 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:05:51 -0500 Subject: epiphany 1.10 rpm errors In-Reply-To: <1078516328.2108.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078516328.2108.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <404923EF.6010108@insight.rr.com> Zach Wilkinson wrote: > Resolving dependencies > ....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package epiphany needs installed, this is not available. > Package epiphany needs is, this is not available. > Package epiphany needs not, this is not available. > Package epiphany needs package, this is not available. > > Is there a Bugzilla case for this? > > Zach > > I had to look at the error message on screen to see what it actually looked like. The packages *installed*, *is*, *not* and *package* are not available on my computer either. Jim From mrsam at courier-mta.com Sat Mar 6 01:06:25 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:06:25 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403050954.40334.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403051631.45023.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: Jesse Keating writes: > On Friday 05 March 2004 16:22, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> If this is the same 2174 kernel I downloaded off duke.edu two weeks >> ago, then I already know that it's going to be blowing chunks. Big, >> juicy chunks. I think I'd rather wait for things to begin moving in >> Bugzilla, and hope that FC2 will be more stable. > > Can you be more specific as to which part of it blows chunks, so that we > can resolve the issue? We've been cleaning up bugs quietly in the > background (I've been finding them, smarter people have been cleaning > them up). Bug 116466. Sun's javac oopses the kernel every time. Bug 115351. aic79xx.o trips over itself if set to go at 320MB/s. The driver must be downshifted to 160MB/s. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat Mar 6 01:27:08 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:27:08 -0500 Subject: fedora core 2 test1 & sound In-Reply-To: <20040306005331.8415.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040306005331.8415.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <404928EC.3010305@insight.rr.com> Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hey everyone- > > does anyone know why sound support wasn't compiled into the kernel? any idea > when this will be implemented? just curious, thanks... > This move was made before test 1 came out. The logic was to take away the oss sound drivers, so reports would be filed for problems with the alsa sound drivers. With no fallback for oss, alsa bugs need reported and resolved before FC2 is released. I expected some sort of sound configuration tool or automatic soundcard detection and configuration. The drivers are there. Getting the sound-drivers loaded is however not an automated task yet. (Unless I missed some new trick for kudzu and system-config-soundcard of recent days). Jim > mark. > > p.s. sorry about the duplicate posts about yum and the duplicate posts about > up2date. for some reason, unknownst to me, both messages were sent twice... > I had one message that posted twice awhile back. One message had fedora-test-list in the address twice. The duplicate only had fedora-test-list addressed once. I figured it was some replicator virus or something. (JK) > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 6 01:28:58 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:28:58 -0500 Subject: yum will not run In-Reply-To: <20040306005558.19441.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040306005558.19441.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1078536538.22673.4.camel@binkley> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 16:55 -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Seth (and others)- > > sorry about posting something that's already been covered but the redhat list > arhives are down. and, btw, i'm using the latest version of yum from rawhide. > no you're not. latest version is yum-2.0.5.20040303-1.noarch.rpm you're running yum-2.0.5.20040229-1.noarch.rpm -sv From adamo97 at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 02:30:34 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:30:34 -0500 Subject: Nautilus Side Pane Missing Message-ID: <1078540234.2538.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> I recently upgraded to the latest rawhide development packages, including GNOME 2.5.9 and Nautilus 2.5.8. I noticed that the Side Pane is missing from all the Nautilus windows and I can't seem to figure out how to get it back. Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone have a solution to this problem? Best Regards, Adam Scarcella =) From adamo97 at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 02:30:54 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:30:54 -0500 Subject: EMPTY('Main Menu > System Tools') Message-ID: <1078540253.2538.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> I just updated to the latest rawhide packages but I noticed that the System Tools option in the Main Menu is empty. There were many useful apps such as Red Hat Up2date, Synaptic, Hardware Browser, etc... that I used frequently from there. Is there some way for me to fix this issue? Best Regards, Adam Scarcella =) From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sat Mar 6 02:36:06 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:36:06 -0500 Subject: Wierd yum update results (today) Message-ID: yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (livna-stable) Server: fedora stable Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Released Updates Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies ....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package epiphany needs installed, this is not available. Package epiphany needs is, this is not available. Package epiphany needs not, this is not available. Package epiphany needs package, this is not available. From sdinucci at cableone.net Sat Mar 6 02:43:20 2004 From: sdinucci at cableone.net (Scott & JoEllen) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:43:20 -0700 Subject: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem Message-ID: <40493AC8.2050102@cableone.net> I am new to Linux and have installed FC1 Test 2 and I am having a problem. My computer is connected to a Netgear FR114P router through a network card. I have not installed the Linux firewall. I can open Mozilla and put the IP for the router and see it. From the terminal window I can ping a web site like www.yahoo.com and see that it is getting to the site and back without any problem. When I try to browse the site, the status line shows connecting and it just sits there. When I try to run up2date it also is hanging up. Everything works fine when I run under Windows XP with the same Mozilla configuration. Any help would be appreciated. Scott From ehoover at mines.edu Sat Mar 6 02:44:17 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (Erich Hoover) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:44:17 -0700 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings Message-ID: <40493B01.9030001@mines.edu> It sounds to me like making Xine available would be fine, but to include a DVD copying program (even if it couldn't decode CSS and just copied the DVD byte-for-byte) would be a problem. At least that's what the EFF's materials imply: DeCSS related: http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/DVDCCA_case/20040227_eff_pr.php Copying related: http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/MGM_v_321Studios/20040220_eff_pr.php >On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 06:09:10AM -0600, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: >> Can you redhat guys bug one of your lawyers and see if we can finally >> bundle a Dvd player with Linux. These court rulings seem to allow it >> now since it's deemed a non trade secret now. > >I suggest you look at the current rulings on DVD copying tools > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 6 02:45:54 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:45:54 -0500 Subject: Wierd yum update results (today) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1078541154.22673.11.camel@binkley> > ....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package epiphany needs installed, this is not available. > Package epiphany needs is, this is not available. > Package epiphany needs not, this is not available. > Package epiphany needs package, this is not available. yum is doing exactly the right thing. rpm -qpR epiphany-1.1.10-1.i386.rpm /bin/sh /bin/sh /bin/sh GConf2 gnome-icon-theme >= 1.0.6-1 installed is libICE.so.6 libORBit-2.so.0 libSM.so.6 libX11.so.6 libXcursor.so.1 libart_lgpl_2.so.2 libatk-1.0.so.0 libbonobo-2.so.0 libbonobo-activation.so.4 libbonoboui-2.so.0 libc.so.6 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) libdl.so.2 libeel-2.so.2 libgailutil.so.17 libgcc_s.so.1 libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0) libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) libgconf-2.so.4 libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 libglade-2.0.so.0 libglib-2.0.so.0 libgmodule-2.0.so.0 libgnome-2.so.0 libgnomecanvas-2.so.0 libgnomeui-2.so.0 libgnomevfs-2.so.0 libgobject-2.0.so.0 libgthread-2.0.so.0 libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 libgtkembedmoz.so libm.so.6 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libnautilus.so.2 libnspr4.so libpango-1.0.so.0 libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 libpangox-1.0.so.0 libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 libplc4.so libplds4.so libpopt.so.0 libpthread.so.0 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) libstdc++.so.5 libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) libxml2.so.2 libxpcom.so libz.so.1 mozilla not package rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 scrollkeeper Notice anything odd in there? -sv From tdiehl at rogueind.com Sat Mar 6 02:48:35 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:48:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Kernel numbering query In-Reply-To: <20040305195656.GB26232@redhat.com> References: <20040305195656.GB26232@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Dave Jones wrote: > So, there you have it. I now expect to be duly flamed for my part in this, > but I'm hoping you'll all see the benefits of this far outweigh any downsides > that you may come up with. So, flame on 8-) Why would anyoone flame you for this?? I think it is fantastic!! At least kernel wise we now have a glimpse of what RHEL4 will be like. In addition I would think it would mean the kernel will be much better tested by the time RHEL4 becomes a reality. Now the real question becomes how many more packages can you guys do that for? I really think this kind of thing can only help. Tom From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 6 02:48:47 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:48:47 -0500 Subject: epiphany 1.10 rpm errors In-Reply-To: <1078516328.2108.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078516328.2108.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1078541327.22673.14.camel@binkley> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 14:52 -0500, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > Resolving dependencies > ....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package epiphany needs installed, this is not available. > Package epiphany needs is, this is not available. > Package epiphany needs not, this is not available. > Package epiphany needs package, this is not available. > > Is there a Bugzilla case for this? > top of epiphany's spec file: %define mozver %(rpm -q mozilla --qf "%%{name} = %%{epoch}:%%{version}") then: Requires: %mozver so if mozilla wasn't installed it would output: package mozilla is not installed. which is consistent with the broken deps you're seeing. -sv From joao at wipmail.com.br Sat Mar 6 02:54:35 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 23:54:35 -0300 Subject: kontrol center overides XF86Config In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403052354.49945.joao@wipmail.com.br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 After making any change to Kontrol Centers => System Admin => Font Installer the XF86Config is overitten specially the files section from Fontserver FontPath "unix/:7100" to fontpath FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts" ..... - -- Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc ?{ DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F ?6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAST1zCmIEQLX9sjoRAvA1AKCmKHu/2iGhSBQ97AEvunytlwdMqwCbBRhy glmpjniv0+zjaikNk28XENo= =gNrq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From randysch at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 03:15:21 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:15:21 -0500 Subject: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <40493AC8.2050102@cableone.net> References: <40493AC8.2050102@cableone.net> Message-ID: <40494249.9070500@comcast.net> Scott & JoEllen wrote: > I am new to Linux and have installed FC1 Test 2 and I am having a > problem. My computer is connected to a Netgear FR114P router through a > network card. I have not installed the Linux firewall. I can open > Mozilla and put the IP for the router and see it. From the terminal > window I can ping a web site like www.yahoo.com and see that it is > getting to the site and back without any problem. When I try to browse > the site, the status line shows connecting and it just sits there. Scott - there are a couple current threads here that may help. Check out the threads named "disable IPV6?" and "Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts?". But your answer may be as simple as adding this line: alias net-pf-10 off to the file /etc/modprobe.conf. Add it right after the line that says "include /etc/modprobe.conf.dist". Then you'll need to reboot and see if that helps. randy From dr at cluenet.de Sat Mar 6 03:18:50 2004 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 04:18:50 +0100 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE>; from brian@krahmer.com on Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 04:02:11PM -0800 References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Message-ID: <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 04:02:11PM -0800, Brian Krahmer wrote: > Personally, I would like to see an option in the setup for whether you want > to enable IPV6 or not, with the default being Not. At least, until IPV6 > becomes a reality for mainstream users. I beg to differ, the default should be on. > I noticed that we are both on comcast. I didn't play around with nslookup > or dig, but perhaps comcast' dns servers are actually returning IPV6 > addresses for some hosts. If we're getting v6 addresses, but can't connect > to them because we haven't got a tunnel set up, it would explain the delays, > as it attempts a v6 connection, fails, then falls back to v4. There should be no delays. If IPv6 is enabled for the interfaces, there are two options (currently): - default route via stateless autoconfig (router advertisement) - static default route So unless you _have_ IPv6 outside connectivity (either by some router on your LAN advertising a default route to your host or by yourself configuring a static IPv6 default route), there is no default route and any attempt to connect to an IPv6 address outside your local LAN will _immediately_ result in a "no route to host" and thus a failure. Without noticable delay. Guys... VARs are today shipping even laptops with Windows XP with IPv6 enabled by default. If someone has long timeout delays, there is something misconfigured... e.g. a static default to a nonexistant default router. THIS needs to be fixed. Regards, Daniel From joao at wipmail.com.br Sat Mar 6 03:27:53 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 00:27:53 -0300 Subject: font size excess in konqueror - xfonts problem? Message-ID: <200403060028.00803.joao@wipmail.com.br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have one pc which is giving up some font problem the default font size in konquerors webview is too large I need to hit 3-4 times decrease font size to get the almost normal view all konqueror configuration files are ok, and identical to other computers I have with almost identical configuration and no problem at all custom css is not used khtml is also in original state I seems to me that it is a font problem and not a konq config problem it seems that it is a large step between sans 8 and sans 10 (the size is doubled) as well as in other types so for me it seems to be a font scaling or font map problem I reinstalled --refreshed all fonts, xserver, kdelibs and kdebase and cleared /tmp no change best results I get with vera fonts set in konquerors font setting option and medium font size set to 8px I still need to hit 3 times the decrease font size to get the "good view" on a website. when I visit a website with strict fontsettings or good style.css everything is normal. mozilla is showing the pages totally normally any idea about this wired thing? Jo?o - -- Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc ?{ DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F ?6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASUU9CmIEQLX9sjoRAjMJAKCfpGMEjst5MJjl7ZYlnoMjKp3TDwCfRFPZ F/4iE2eaJPk1nnU7CrIj6Lw= =LU5/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From biped at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 03:31:16 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:31:16 -0500 Subject: Nautilus Side Pane Missing In-Reply-To: <1078540234.2538.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078540234.2538.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40494604.9060002@comcast.net> Adam Scarcella released the following into the bitstream on 03/05/04 21:30: > I recently upgraded to the latest rawhide development packages, > including GNOME 2.5.9 and Nautilus 2.5.8. > > I noticed that the Side Pane is missing from all the Nautilus windows > and I can't seem to figure out how to get it back. > > Does anyone else have this problem? > Does anyone have a solution to this problem? > > Best Regards, > > Adam Scarcella =) > > Welcome to the new "spatial" nautilus. You want the old behavior? Right click on your folder/icon and select "Browse Folder" HTH :: Marcus From aldert at vdlaan.yi.org Sat Mar 6 04:15:47 2004 From: aldert at vdlaan.yi.org (Aldert E. van der Laan) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 23:15:47 -0500 Subject: Fedora FC2-T1 on NC8000 or NW8000 Message-ID: <7E68B34FA8BEEA46B805CE292A7D408C4D3A@vdl0003.vdlaan.yi.org.local> Hello group, I will be trying to get Fedora to run properly, that is with as much functionallity as possible, on either laptop. So far I have been trying the NC8000 because I have not received the NW8000 yet. The NC8000 will only display VESA and will not accept the ATI Radeon drivers from XFree86. I have not tested the ATI drivers from the website yet. I am trying to find any information but it seems this is not a laptop that has been tested by anyone yet. So I will keep muttering and testing to see if I can get this thing going, I am actually more interested in the NW8000 but I will have to wait about 7 bizz days before it will arrive. In our small IT group I have found two people interested in running Fedora as a test providing I will come with some sort of installation manual for them. Is there anyone out here that is doing the same stuff as us and is willing to exchange their experiences? Regards, Aldert van der Laan London, Ontario -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Sat Mar 6 04:22:44 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 23:22:44 -0500 Subject: up2date gui appears hosed after 3-4-04 updates References: <006701c402d3$ed44a370$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Message-ID: you can run update from the terminal using this command { up2date -u with the package name } say for instance you want libgnomeui you wolld do this up2date -u libgnomeui and hit the enter key to begin the installation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Krahmer" To: "Fedora (E-mail)" Sent: 03/05/2004 12:04 PM Subject: Re: up2date gui appears hosed after 3-4-04 updates > > you need to update your libgnomeui to the latest in Raw Hide - i.e. to > > use gtk2-2.3.5-1 you need libgnomeui-2.5.90.1-1. > > thanks shrek-m! > -- > Brian Krahmer - brian at krahmer.com - http://www.krahmer.com > Buy Symantec stock - SYMC. :) > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Sat Mar 6 04:34:52 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 23:34:52 -0500 Subject: up2date fails after update - please help! References: <001101c40279$1de45c60$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Message-ID: run up2date from the command line using this command up2date -u libgnomeui and the installation will begin I jus update that file and up2date gui began to work without any prob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Krahmer" To: "Fedora (E-mail)" Sent: 03/05/2004 1:14 AM Subject: Re: up2date fails after update - please help! > Alexander, thanks for the help with the yum patch. > > It still seems that Alton Bailey and I another problem that I haven't been > able to find any answers for. > > > ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: > > gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode > > That symbol is causing a lot of Gnome stuff to break. Anybody have any > ideas on this one? > > thanks, > brian > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From sdinucci at cableone.net Sat Mar 6 04:37:36 2004 From: sdinucci at cableone.net (Scott DiNucci) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:37:36 -0700 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem Message-ID: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> Randy, Thanks for the fast reply. I saw the thread and had modified the /etc/modprobe.conf file and it did not fix the problem. If you watch the status line in Mozilla the resolving host happens very quickly and it hangs on the Connecting to ......... I also have a problem where the gui uo2date also seems to hang. It is as if messages are not getting back to the OS. Could this be caused by my ethernet card configuration? Thanks. Scott From mike at netlyncs.com Sat Mar 6 04:44:28 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:44:28 -0600 Subject: up2date gui appears hosed after 3-4-04 updates In-Reply-To: References: <006701c402d3$ed44a370$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Message-ID: <1078548268.1617.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 22:22, alton bailey wrote: > you can run update from the terminal using this command { up2date -u with > the package name } say for instance you want libgnomeui you wolld do this > up2date -u libgnomeui and hit the enter key to begin the installation Actually, just up2date libgnomeui. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sat Mar 6 04:47:45 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:47:45 -0300 Subject: Fedora FC2-T1 on NC8000 or NW8000 In-Reply-To: <7E68B34FA8BEEA46B805CE292A7D408C4D3A@vdl0003.vdlaan.yi.org.local> References: <7E68B34FA8BEEA46B805CE292A7D408C4D3A@vdl0003.vdlaan.yi.org.local> Message-ID: <404957F1.300@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Aldert E. van der Laan wrote: > The NC8000 will only display VESA and will not accept the ATI Radeon > drivers from XFree86. I have not tested the ATI drivers from the > website yet. > I have a ATI Radeon 9500 pro card here.. My attempts to use the ATI drivers so far arent very good.. Tried all the patches available , but the driver doesnt even compile on FC2t1. As I dont need 3D and my card is recognized by X, I simply dropped the ATI drivers... Maybe when there's a final distro with the 2.6 kernel , the guys from ATI will finally release a driver that works... What is the graphic card of this notebook? Maybe there's the chance that it will work under other driver, but only in 2D... -- Pedro Macedo From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sat Mar 6 04:50:58 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 20:50:58 -0800 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403051631.45023.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <200403052050.58375.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 05 March 2004 17:06, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Bug 115351. aic79xx.o trips over itself if set to go at 320MB/s. The > driver must be downshifted to 160MB/s. This looks like an issue we found with RHL9 and this module with newer aic79xx chipsets. We had to compile Adaptec's provided code for this driver in order to get them to work at full speed. Last driver version from Adaptec that I had work reliably was 1.3.10. What driver version is in FC1 x86_64? - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASViy4v2HLvE71NURAvBWAKCeyFuCL6NKK2516qu7Pj4P3rhpAgCff4Es ZjWmmMEkHheZEjr9ahoS2SI= =2mQR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From biped at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 05:48:17 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 00:48:17 -0500 Subject: gtk does not recognize svg Message-ID: <40496621.1050706@comcast.net> After the last slew of updates metacity oand gtk-2.0 themes with svg pics no longer work. .xsession-errors is full of messages of the type: Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/themes/CoolGorilla/gtk-2.0/CoolGorilla_stock_dnd.svg' Temporary rawhide or more fundamental problem? :: Marcus From joao at wipmail.com.br Sat Mar 6 05:50:07 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 02:50:07 -0300 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> References: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> Message-ID: <200403060250.17991.joao@wipmail.com.br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 06 March 2004 01:37, Scott DiNucci wrote: > Randy, > Thanks for the fast reply. I saw the thread and had modified the > /etc/modprobe.conf file and it did not fix the problem. If you watch the > status line in Mozilla the resolving host happens very quickly and it hangs > on the Connecting to ......... I also have a problem where the gui uo2date > also seems to hang. It is as if messages are not getting back to the OS. > > Could this be caused by my ethernet card configuration? everything is possible ... you r comments are very thin please post the return of (the real output) ifconfig netstat -rn cat /etc/resolv.conf so then things get clearer Jo?o > > Thanks. > > > Scott - -- Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc ?{ DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F ?6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASWaUCmIEQLX9sjoRAimVAKCnZuXqXGyJSL75TKSMY2Fki4GHHQCfR6hV 3C3mLJRn2G92nXO4TpOe+tc= =Izi4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com Sat Mar 6 05:53:36 2004 From: tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com (George Garvey) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:53:36 -0800 Subject: gtk does not recognize svg In-Reply-To: <40496621.1050706@comcast.net> References: <40496621.1050706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040306055336.GD29745@inxservices.com> On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 12:48:17AM -0500, Marcus Schuetz wrote: > After the last slew of updates metacity oand gtk-2.0 themes with svg > pics no longer work. .xsession-errors is full of messages of the type: > > Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file > format for file > '/usr/share/themes/CoolGorilla/gtk-2.0/CoolGorilla_stock_dnd.svg' No idea if this is your solution: one of our users reported that gdm never ran after they came back from lunch. Tracked it down to 2 files missing in /etc/gtk-2.0: gdk-pixbuf.loaders and gtk-immodules. When I copied those 2 files from another, working, system; everything was fine. The error message was very similar to what you're showing above. From lewt at warcry.com Sat Mar 6 06:10:06 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 00:10:06 -0600 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <200403060250.17991.joao@wipmail.com.br> References: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> <200403060250.17991.joao@wipmail.com.br> Message-ID: <40496B3E.1070709@warcry.com> Jo?o wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Saturday 06 March 2004 01:37, Scott DiNucci wrote: > > >>Randy, >>Thanks for the fast reply. I saw the thread and had modified the >>/etc/modprobe.conf file and it did not fix the problem. If you watch the >>status line in Mozilla the resolving host happens very quickly and it hangs >>on the Connecting to ......... I also have a problem where the gui uo2date >>also seems to hang. It is as if messages are not getting back to the OS. >> >>Could this be caused by my ethernet card configuration? >> >> > >everything is possible ... you r comments are very thin > >please post the return of (the real output) > >ifconfig >netstat -rn >cat /etc/resolv.conf > >so then things get clearer > >Jo?o > > > > >>Thanks. >> >> >>Scott >> >> > >- -- >Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: >GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc > { DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F 6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFASWaUCmIEQLX9sjoRAimVAKCnZuXqXGyJSL75TKSMY2Fki4GHHQCfR6hV >3C3mLJRn2G92nXO4TpOe+tc= >=Izi4 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Try using lynx and see if it can browse also.. From lewt at warcry.com Sat Mar 6 06:12:03 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 00:12:03 -0600 Subject: FC1 64 Release.. Logitech USB Keyboard fails to work. Message-ID: <40496BB3.6010108@warcry.com> During boot and halfway through services startup the keyboard works.. then it quits working period yet the Intellimouse Explorer still works.. kudzu does nothing.. Any ideas.. Logitech Internet Navigatior USB keybaord.. Thanks From martin at lnuxpwrd.net Sat Mar 6 06:52:41 2004 From: martin at lnuxpwrd.net (Martin) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 00:52:41 -0600 Subject: mixing sound sources and system bell Message-ID: <1078555961.4215.11.camel@desktop> how does one enable/configure multiple sound sources simultaneously with ALSA on fedora? i want to listen to xmms and hear other sounds, like mail notifications (either beeps or sound files) or system beeps. for that matter, where are system bells to be delivered? to the actual system bell or to the sound card? is this configurable? I'd like to hear the bell on soundcard. is the sound played for bell on soundcard configurable to different sounds? Is there a mixer setting somewhere? Using the latest bits from rawhide. TIA, Marty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Sat Mar 6 07:33:58 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:33:58 -0500 Subject: Fedora FC2-T1 on NC8000 or NW8000 In-Reply-To: <7E68B34FA8BEEA46B805CE292A7D408C4D3A@vdl0003.vdlaan.yi.org.local> References: <7E68B34FA8BEEA46B805CE292A7D408C4D3A@vdl0003.vdlaan.yi.org.local> Message-ID: <1078558438.4735.3.camel@family> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 23:15 -0500, Aldert E. van der Laan wrote: > > In our small IT group I have found two people interested in running > Fedora as a test providing I will come with some sort of installation > manual for them. > Sorry ... but why on earth would you give them an alpha version of software? FC1 maybe ... FC2 test1 never. Or wait till FC2 is released. From farnik at internode.on.net Sat Mar 6 08:43:23 2004 From: farnik at internode.on.net (Farnik Family) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:13:23 +1030 Subject: Fedora FC2-T1 Intel D865PERL Mother Board AD1985 (Soundmax) Audio - ALSA In-Reply-To: <1078558438.4735.3.camel@family> Message-ID: <000001c40357$1936db00$0101010a@whitestar> Hi New to all of this, have loaded FC2-T1 onto spare partition of my home PC. Cannot get sound to work. Intel D865PERL Mother Board AD1985 (Soundmax) Audio. Please point me at How-To (have Googled and not found anything that works). As I understand it FC2-T1 has ALSA built in, but not working. Thanks in advance, Kym Farnik From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 6 09:40:56 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:40:56 -0800 Subject: Why is Web Browsers so slow at Resolving Hosts In-Reply-To: <40490954.3000209@comcast.net> References: <4045048B.1080609@comcast.net> <20040302234829.GA13813@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <404570EF.3050308@comcast.net> <20040303072927.GA15158@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <4045BAE8.6020701@comcast.net> <20040305214226.GB24828@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <40490954.3000209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040306094056.GB29297@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 06:12:20PM -0500, Randy Schrickel wrote: .... > > You might also want to look at something totally different (sort of) > which fixed the same problem for me. .... > Turns out IPV6 was configured on my net interface, ... > alias net-pf-10 off > Randy, Thanks for catching this. I saw the discussion in the other thread and was going Hmmm tinkering on a spare machine and thinking what to post ..... then I saw your message. Good stuff. Regards, tom -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 6 09:54:10 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 10:54:10 +0100 Subject: yum will not run In-Reply-To: <20040306005558.19441.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040306005558.19441.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40499FC2.4010000@gmx.de> Mark Fonnemann wrote: >sorry about posting something that's already been covered but the redhat list >arhives are down. > the search engine is down but NOT the list archives http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/thread.html are you reading the postings from this list ? are you deleting all your emails from this list ? -- shrek-m From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sat Mar 6 09:55:06 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:55:06 -0800 Subject: up2date will not run In-Reply-To: <20040306004103.34603.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040306004103.34603.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1078566895.27621.6.camel@CirithUngol> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 16:41 -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > [root at markf78 root]# up2date > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? > sys.exit(main() or 0) > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 880, in main > from up2date_client import gui > File "gui.py", line 16, in ? > File "/usr/share/rhn/__init__.py", line 43, in ? > > ImportError: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: > g_completion_complete_utf8 > > i'm using > > Fedora Core 2 test1 > gtk2-2.3.4-1 > up2date-4.3.11-2.1 > up2date-gnome-4.3.11-2.1 > kernel 2.6.3-1.118 > You might try gtk2-2.3.5-1 in development and see if the error is still there. -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Sat Mar 6 10:43:30 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:43:30 +0100 Subject: up2date will not run Message-ID: <1078569809.3031.1.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> Run this on console: up2date libgnomeui It was the solution for me. Regards, Chris From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Sat Mar 6 11:18:04 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 06:18:04 -0500 Subject: Fedora FC2-T1 Intel D865PERL Mother Board AD1985 (Soundmax) Audio - ALSA In-Reply-To: <000001c40357$1936db00$0101010a@whitestar> References: <000001c40357$1936db00$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: <1078571883.4735.8.camel@family> On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 19:13 +1030, Farnik Family wrote: > Hi > New to all of this, have loaded FC2-T1 onto spare partition of my home > PC. > Cannot get sound to work. > Intel D865PERL Mother Board AD1985 (Soundmax) Audio. Try volume :) it's now off by default. From hellcat at hispeed.ch Sat Mar 6 11:22:04 2004 From: hellcat at hispeed.ch (Raphael J.) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 12:22:04 +0100 Subject: NVIDIA & Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.283 Message-ID: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> Hi Installed new kernel, rebooted and rebuilt my NVIDIA drivers(1.0-5336) for X without any problems. But now when Fedora tries to start the X display i just get a black display and the complete system freezes. I can't switch to the text consoles. I hope this is just a temporary problem and will be fixed in the next kernel version. Raphael From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Sat Mar 6 11:22:25 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 06:22:25 -0500 Subject: Sorry about dup post.. Yum Config In-Reply-To: <4047A88A.3000405@warcry.com> References: <4047A88A.3000405@warcry.com> Message-ID: <1078572144.4735.10.camel@family> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 16:07 -0600, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: > Are there updates for Test 1? If so can I see a copy of a yum.conf file > to update mine.. On some mirrors under development/i386 From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 6 12:01:51 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:01:51 +0100 Subject: NVIDIA & Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.283 In-Reply-To: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> References: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> Message-ID: <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> Raphael J. wrote: > Installed new kernel, rebooted and rebuilt my NVIDIA drivers(1.0-5336) > for X > without any problems. > But now when Fedora tries to start the X display i just get a black > display and > the complete system freezes. I can't switch to the text consoles. > > I hope this is just a temporary problem and will be fixed in the next > kernel version. wishful thinking http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-October/msg02059.html Nvidia proprietary drivers are unsupported by Red Hat. Nvidia has web forums for discussion of problems and technical support for their users however which you might find useful. If you report problems there, most likely Nvidia will fix them for their next driver release once Fedora Core 1 is officially released. -- shrek-m From dlt at mebtel.net Sat Mar 6 12:13:08 2004 From: dlt at mebtel.net (Derek Tattersall) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 07:13:08 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> Message-ID: <20040306121308.GC10798@mebtel.net> * Brian Krahmer (brian at krahmer.com) [040306 06:39]: > From: "Brian Krahmer" > To: "Fedora (E-mail)" > Subject: Re: disable IPV6? > Message-ID: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0 at WARHOLE> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) > Reply-To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:02:11 -0800 > > > Curious why more people haven't reported this. Is it card > > related? Network related? Is IPV6 on for everyone, but for > > some reason it's not causing everyone a problem? > > Personally, I would like to see an option in the setup for whether you want > to enable IPV6 or not, with the default being Not. At least, until IPV6 > becomes a reality for mainstream users. > > I noticed that we are both on comcast. I didn't play around with nslookup > or dig, but perhaps comcast' dns servers are actually returning IPV6 > addresses for some hosts. If we're getting v6 addresses, but can't connect > to them because we haven't got a tunnel set up, it would explain the delays, > as it attempts a v6 connection, fails, then falls back to v4. > > brian > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > I've found that ad.doubleclick.net does not properly handle AAAA queries. The progressively longer timeouts occur until the maximum number arrive, and the requestor shrugs and continues in ipv4. The problem is actually with doubleclick. If they'd just fix their DNS... -- Derek Tattersall | Accordion, n.: A bagpipe with pleats. | dlt at mebtel.net | | dlt666 at yahoo.com | From zyk at hotpop.com Sat Mar 6 11:16:10 2004 From: zyk at hotpop.com (Zyk) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:16:10 -0300 Subject: Fedora Core 2 test 1 does not check XFS file system Message-ID: <200403060816.10409.zyk@hotpop.com> I installed FC2t1 on a partition with xfs file system. But Fedora does not check or repair that partition. Does Fedora support xfs? From bhanks at crackedweasel.org Sat Mar 6 12:17:05 2004 From: bhanks at crackedweasel.org (Brian Hanks) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 07:17:05 -0500 Subject: 2 Issues - NVIDIA & yum/up2date Message-ID: <1078575425.7642.60.camel@neuf.bhanks.com> I've been testing FC2 since the beginning on a NVIDIA NForce2 chipset system with a separate NVIDIA graphics cards. This setup works fine with FC1, but I'm having a couple of issues with FC2. First, the system keeps locking up when using certain screensavers. Based on the information that I have read here, in Bugzilla, and other places it sounds like it would be related to the XFree86-Mesa-libGL stuff. Unfortunately, I've tried both solutions that are listed in Bugzilla without any success. I've also tried to add kernel parms to disable apm and acpi. No luck, it still locks up. Second, I've just recently started to have an issue with yum & up2date both. Basically, both of them are crashing curing the "Resolving Dependencies" phase with a segmentation fault. I've tried two different repositories for both and I'm getting the same result. I've tried rebuilding the RPM database, but still no luck. Is anyone else having these issues? Could it be the fact that this board uses the NVIDIA chipset? Just a thought on the NVIDIA graphics card driver issues: It sure would be nice if someone with a lot of knowledge in this area would put together a HOWTO. I consider myself to be fairly adept at using the NVIDIA driver as I've got it running on several machines with different distributions and rev levels, but I'm more than a bit lost with these current issues. (Before anyone tells me, I do know that much of this is caused by the way that NVIDIA has packaged their more recent drivers). Thanks for any insight, Brian Hanks From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Sat Mar 6 13:04:57 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:04:57 -0500 Subject: kernel rpm changelog Message-ID: <1078578297.3347.2.camel@family> Seems the kernel rpm changelog isn't getting updated. It is real nice to see the incremental changes when your testing. From bhartman24 at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 13:51:00 2004 From: bhartman24 at comcast.net (Brian Hartman) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:51:00 -0500 Subject: Sound Modules for FC2 Message-ID: <1078581059.12337.1.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> Hi, everyone. I've installed FC2 and the 2.6.1-1.65 kernel. I'm having trouble with sound, though. I ran "make xconfig" and compiled the drivers I needed into the kernel, but when I run sndconfig, it tells me it can't find soundcore. Can someone explain to me how to install the proper modules for an SB16 card with the OSS sound system? Thanks. (I've also run alsaconf, with similar results. It can't find any sound card drivers.) From william.c.estell at cox.net Sat Mar 6 13:53:27 2004 From: william.c.estell at cox.net (Bill Estell) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:53:27 -0500 Subject: Firewire card now recognized as eth0 Message-ID: <4049D7D7.7020009@cox.net> I updated my system this morning and am now running kernel 2.6.3-2.1.238. After reboot into new kernel, boot log shows: Mar 6 07:48:00 firebird ifup: cannot change name of eth1 to eth0: File exists Mar 6 07:48:00 firebird network: Bringing up interface eth0: failed Prior to this update my ethernet card was always eth0. I went into System Settings -> Network -> Hardware and deleted my devices and then recreated the Ethernet device and setup IP. System Settings -> Network -> Devices tab now shows: Profile Status Device Nickname Type ------- ------ ------ -------- -------- checked Active eth1 eth1 Ethernet System Settings -> Network -> Hardware tab now shows: Description Type Device Status --------------------- --------- ------- ------- Ethernet 100/10 MBit Ethernet eth1 ok ip1394 Ethernet eth0 system I have had the Firewire card installed in this PC throughout my FC2T1 testing. I believe that this is the first time it has shown up as a network device. lspci shows: [snip] 02:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV26 IEEE-1394 Controller (Link) 02:07.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. Ethernet 100/10 MBit (rev 40) Reboot after Network Settings changes shows this in kernel boot log: Mar 6 08:03:33 firebird network: Bringing up interface eth1: succeeded Network works fine now, but Ethernet card is eth1 not eth0. Now for the questions: 1) Anybody else experience this behavior? 2) What algorithm does the OS use to assign eth0, eth1, etc? 3) Is this a bug that should be entered into Bugzilla? Thanks, Bill FYI: I do not have anything plugged into firewire card. From mrsam at courier-mta.com Sat Mar 6 14:15:48 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:15:48 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403051631.45023.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403052050.58375.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: Jesse Keating writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 05 March 2004 17:06, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> Bug 115351. aic79xx.o trips over itself if set to go at 320MB/s. The >> driver must be downshifted to 160MB/s. > > This looks like an issue we found with RHL9 and this module with newer > aic79xx chipsets. We had to compile Adaptec's provided code for this > driver in order to get them to work at full speed. Last driver version > from Adaptec that I had work reliably was 1.3.10. What driver version is > in FC1 x86_64? It's right there in the attachment to the bug: scsi0 : Adaptec AIC79XX PCI-X SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 1.3.10 aic7901A: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 101-133Mhz, 512 SCBs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hellcat at hispeed.ch Sat Mar 6 14:42:29 2004 From: hellcat at hispeed.ch (Raphael J.) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:42:29 +0100 Subject: NVIDIA & Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.283 In-Reply-To: <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> References: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4049E355.9080108@hispeed.ch> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > Raphael J. wrote: > >> Installed new kernel, rebooted and rebuilt my NVIDIA drivers(1.0-5336) >> for X >> without any problems. >> But now when Fedora tries to start the X display i just get a black >> display and >> the complete system freezes. I can't switch to the text consoles. >> >> I hope this is just a temporary problem and will be fixed in the next >> kernel version. > > > > wishful thinking > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-October/msg02059.html > > > > Nvidia proprietary drivers are unsupported by Red Hat. Nvidia > has web forums for discussion of problems and technical support > for their users however which you might find useful. If you > report problems there, most likely Nvidia will fix them for their > next driver release once Fedora Core 1 is officially released. > > Just tried the latest kernel 2.6.3-2.1.240, same problem. After a quick search on the nvidia forums I found out that a beta driver is out. Gonna try that one if I can find i From aldert at vdlaan.yi.org Sat Mar 6 14:46:42 2004 From: aldert at vdlaan.yi.org (Aldert E. van der Laan) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 09:46:42 -0500 Subject: Fedora FC2-T1 on NC8000 or NW8000 Message-ID: <7E68B34FA8BEEA46B805CE292A7D408C4D3B@vdl0003.vdlaan.yi.org.local> Because they volunteered that is why. We are not talking average users here; these are IT folks willing to give some of their time to test alpha software. -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Pond [mailto:sandy_pond at myrealbox.com] Sent: March 6, 2004 2:34 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Fedora FC2-T1 on NC8000 or NW8000 On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 23:15 -0500, Aldert E. van der Laan wrote: > > In our small IT group I have found two people interested in running > Fedora as a test providing I will come with some sort of installation > manual for them. > Sorry ... but why on earth would you give them an alpha version of software? FC1 maybe ... FC2 test1 never. Or wait till FC2 is released. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From aldert at vdlaan.yi.org Sat Mar 6 14:54:30 2004 From: aldert at vdlaan.yi.org (Aldert E. van der Laan) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 09:54:30 -0500 Subject: Fedora FC2-T1 on NC8000 or NW8000 Message-ID: <7E68B34FA8BEEA46B805CE292A7D408C4D3C@vdl0003.vdlaan.yi.org.local> I am able to get a graphical screen but only with the VESA driver. The video board is an ATI Mobility 9600 Pro. This morning I will conduct further testing. The NW8000 carries the ATI FireGL-T2. I will send the ID strings to the persons that are developing the drivers for Fedora and also keep a close eye on the XFree mailing lists. Aldert. -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Fernandes Macedo [mailto:webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br] Sent: March 5, 2004 11:48 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Fedora FC2-T1 on NC8000 or NW8000 Aldert E. van der Laan wrote: > The NC8000 will only display VESA and will not accept the ATI Radeon > drivers from XFree86. I have not tested the ATI drivers from the > website yet. > I have a ATI Radeon 9500 pro card here.. My attempts to use the ATI drivers so far arent very good.. Tried all the patches available , but the driver doesnt even compile on FC2t1. As I dont need 3D and my card is recognized by X, I simply dropped the ATI drivers... Maybe when there's a final distro with the 2.6 kernel , the guys from ATI will finally release a driver that works... What is the graphic card of this notebook? Maybe there's the chance that it will work under other driver, but only in 2D... -- Pedro Macedo -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fxjrlists at yahoo.com.br Sat Mar 6 16:06:58 2004 From: fxjrlists at yahoo.com.br (Francisco Figueiredo Jr.) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:06:58 -0300 Subject: Sound Modules for FC2 In-Reply-To: <1078581059.12337.1.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> References: <1078581059.12337.1.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4049F722.9090701@yahoo.com.br> Brian Hartman wrote: > Hi, everyone. > Hi Brian. > I've installed FC2 and the 2.6.1-1.65 kernel. I'm having trouble with > sound, though. I ran "make xconfig" and compiled the drivers I needed > into the kernel, but when I run sndconfig, it tells me it can't find > soundcore. Can someone explain to me how to install the proper modules > for an SB16 card with the OSS sound system? Thanks. (I've also run > alsaconf, with similar results. It can't find any sound card drivers.) > > I know this references are about FC1 but they have very nice material about getting alsa sound configured. I hope it helps. http://foolish.digitalinc.info/docs/alsa/ http://www.freax.be/wiki/index.php/Fedora%20core%201%20with%20kernel%202.6-test -- Regards, Francisco Figueiredo Jr. Membro Fundador do Projeto MonoBrasil - MonoBrasil Project Founder Member http://monobrasil.softwarelivre.org ------------- "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." ~ Albert Einstein From sdinucci at cableone.net Sat Mar 6 16:16:05 2004 From: sdinucci at cableone.net (Scott DiNucci) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:16:05 -0700 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <200403060250.17991.joao@wipmail.com.br> References: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> <200403060250.17991.joao@wipmail.com.br> Message-ID: <4049F945.8080607@cableone.net> Here are the results: ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:5A:68:10:52 inet addr:192.168.0.2 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:54 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:65 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:7142 (6.9 Kb) TX bytes:6384 (6.2 Kb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0x1800 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:2188 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2188 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1704871 (1.6 Mb) TX bytes:1704871 (1.6 Mb) netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 cat /etc/resolve.conf ; generated by /sbin/dhclient-script nameserver 24.116.0.159 nameserver 24.116.0.202 nameserver 24.116.0.152 Thanks in advance for any help. Scott Jo?o wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 06 March 2004 01:37, Scott DiNucci wrote: > >>Randy, >>Thanks for the fast reply. I saw the thread and had modified the >>/etc/modprobe.conf file and it did not fix the problem. If you watch the >>status line in Mozilla the resolving host happens very quickly and it hangs >>on the Connecting to ......... I also have a problem where the gui uo2date >>also seems to hang. It is as if messages are not getting back to the OS. >> >>Could this be caused by my ethernet card configuration? > > > everything is possible ... you r comments are very thin > > please post the return of (the real output) > > ifconfig > netstat -rn > cat /etc/resolv.conf > > so then things get clearer > > Jo?o > > > >>Thanks. >> >> >>Scott > > > - -- > Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: > GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc > { DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F 6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFASWaUCmIEQLX9sjoRAimVAKCnZuXqXGyJSL75TKSMY2Fki4GHHQCfR6hV > 3C3mLJRn2G92nXO4TpOe+tc= > =Izi4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sat Mar 6 16:31:00 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:31:00 -0300 Subject: Firewire card now recognized as eth0 In-Reply-To: <4049D7D7.7020009@cox.net> References: <4049D7D7.7020009@cox.net> Message-ID: <4049FCC4.6080001@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Bill Estell wrote: > Now for the questions: > 1) Anybody else experience this behavior? I have a Asus A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard and it happens to me also.. eth0 is assigned to Firewire , eth1 to the 3com onboard lan and eth2 to the nvidia lan. -- Pedro Macedo From steve at rueb.com Sat Mar 6 16:53:46 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 10:53:46 -0600 Subject: System hang during boot Message-ID: <404A021A.5080100@rueb.com> I am seeing behavior identical to what I saw several kernels ago. Around -100 I think. The system hangs on boot up at "remounting filesystem read-write. The root fs is reiserfs. -238 and -240 both do this. -118 is fine. -Stevwe From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sat Mar 6 16:55:57 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:55:57 -0800 Subject: Fedora Core 2 test 1 does not check XFS file system In-Reply-To: <200403060816.10409.zyk@hotpop.com> References: <200403060816.10409.zyk@hotpop.com> Message-ID: <200403060855.57865.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 06 March 2004 03:16, Zyk wrote: > I installed FC2t1 on a partition with xfs file system. But Fedora does > not check or repair that partition. Does Fedora support xfs? Do you have "xfsprogs" installed? Currently the installer does not make sure to install the file system programs for the file system you select. JFS does not get the jfs programs, same with xfs, and possibly even reiserfs. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASgKd4v2HLvE71NURAv/vAKC6BvnobMVVouGqO2GktM/ITP0n9ACeOC+W CgdBBIBvgg50FrIHtbQxH3k= =BTA0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sat Mar 6 16:58:26 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:58:26 -0800 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403052050.58375.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <200403060858.26927.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 06 March 2004 06:15, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > It's right there in the attachment to the bug: > > scsi0 : Adaptec AIC79XX PCI-X SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 1.3.10 > > aic7901A: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 101-133Mhz, > 512 SCBs er, color me ignorant. Sorry I missed that. Looks like it is the updated version I had to use in the 32bit platform. We have a few systems at work that use this chipset, so I'll be bugging the kernel folk to take a look at it. I wonder if this problem exists with the RHEL3 amd64 kernel. Will have to test. Sam, thank you for bringing this to my attention. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASgMy4v2HLvE71NURAp6ZAJkBZS/n7crTNp36Rfstmwu94kahBgCfeWZn n6rnyrImicRWAxNrbNzbCdU= =5vb/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From herrold at owlriver.com Sat Mar 6 17:06:44 2004 From: herrold at owlriver.com (R P Herrold) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 12:06:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: fedora-t] Fedora FC2-T1 Intel D865PERL Mother Board AD1985 (Soundmax) Audio - ALSA In-Reply-To: <000001c40357$1936db00$0101010a@whitestar> References: <000001c40357$1936db00$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Farnik Family wrote: > Hi > New to all of this, have loaded FC2-T1 onto spare partition of my home > PC. > Cannot get sound to work. > Intel D865PERL Mother Board AD1985 (Soundmax) Audio. I filed the lspci of the several missing Major/Minor pairs for that motherboard (which seems blazingly baset in a buildserver situation) and the bug was closed, as sent along upstream. You may wish to consider pulling the latest hwdata srpm, and building and installing the binary, to see if that provides sfficient information to the sound configuration code to solve your problem for you. Good Luck -- Russ Herrold From joao at wipmail.com.br Sat Mar 6 17:36:57 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 14:36:57 -0300 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <4049F945.8080607@cableone.net> References: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> <200403060250.17991.joao@wipmail.com.br> <4049F945.8080607@cableone.net> Message-ID: <200403061437.16461.joao@wipmail.com.br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi there so you need to check if this IPs which appear under resolv.conf are really the nameserver for you machine then you may check if you router/modem is the IP 192.168.0.1 and if it does NAT correctly then you still may issue arp -an on the console to see of your are having phisical connection to your router if the IP 192.168.0.1 appear as incomplete or so you could have a cable problem Jo?o On Saturday 06 March 2004 13:16, Scott DiNucci wrote: > Here are the results: > ifconfig > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:5A:68:10:52 > inet addr:192.168.0.2 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:54 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:65 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:7142 (6.9 Kb) TX bytes:6384 (6.2 Kb) > Interrupt:11 Base address:0x1800 > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:2188 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:2188 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:1704871 (1.6 Mb) TX bytes:1704871 (1.6 Mb) > > netstat -rn > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt > Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 > 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 > 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 > 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 > 0 eth0 > > cat /etc/resolve.conf > ; generated by /sbin/dhclient-script > nameserver 24.116.0.159 > nameserver 24.116.0.202 > nameserver 24.116.0.152 > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Scott > > Jo?o wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Saturday 06 March 2004 01:37, Scott DiNucci wrote: > >>Randy, > >>Thanks for the fast reply. I saw the thread and had modified the > >>/etc/modprobe.conf file and it did not fix the problem. If you watch the > >>status line in Mozilla the resolving host happens very quickly and it > >> hangs on the Connecting to ......... I also have a problem where the > >> gui uo2date also seems to hang. It is as if messages are not getting > >> back to the OS. > >> > >>Could this be caused by my ethernet card configuration? > > > > everything is possible ... you r comments are very thin > > > > please post the return of (the real output) > > > > ifconfig > > netstat -rn > > cat /etc/resolv.conf > > > > so then things get clearer > > > > Jo?o > > > >>Thanks. > >> > >> > >>Scott > > > > - -- > > Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: > > GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc > > { DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F 6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFASWaUCmIEQLX9sjoRAimVAKCnZuXqXGyJSL75TKSMY2Fki4GHHQCfR6hV > > 3C3mLJRn2G92nXO4TpOe+tc= > > =Izi4 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - -- Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc ?{ DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F ?6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASgxCCmIEQLX9sjoRAqV2AKCM2+Hfk+dP3v4qU1pm9kr7eZnlhACgij3O QKLPiuAyK57a4uBfat4PyYY= =1YpY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Sat Mar 6 18:01:14 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:01:14 -0500 Subject: Firewire card now recognized as eth0 In-Reply-To: <4049D7D7.7020009@cox.net> References: <4049D7D7.7020009@cox.net> Message-ID: <1078596074.4297.1.camel@family> On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 08:53 -0500, Bill Estell wrote: > > Now for the questions: > 1) Anybody else experience this behavior? Also happened here but was gone with todays updates. From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Sat Mar 6 18:10:02 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:10:02 -0500 Subject: up2date will not run References: <1078569809.3031.1.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> Message-ID: run this from the console (up2date -u libgnomeui) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Schlaefcke" To: Sent: 03/06/2004 5:43 AM Subject: Re: up2date will not run > Run this on console: > up2date libgnomeui > > It was the solution for me. > > Regards, > > Chris > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Sat Mar 6 18:12:17 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:12:17 -0500 Subject: up2date will not run References: <20040306004103.34603.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> <1078566895.27621.6.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: run this from the console up2date -u libgnomeui ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Farris" To: Sent: 03/06/2004 4:55 AM Subject: Re: up2date will not run > On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 16:41 -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > > [root at markf78 root]# up2date > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? > > sys.exit(main() or 0) > > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 880, in main > > from up2date_client import gui > > File "gui.py", line 16, in ? > > File "/usr/share/rhn/__init__.py", line 43, in ? > > > > ImportError: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: > > g_completion_complete_utf8 > > > > i'm using > > > > Fedora Core 2 test1 > > gtk2-2.3.4-1 > > up2date-4.3.11-2.1 > > up2date-gnome-4.3.11-2.1 > > kernel 2.6.3-1.118 > > > > You might try gtk2-2.3.5-1 in development and see if the error is still > there. > > -- > "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men > to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) > > Andrew Farris, CPE major > California Polytechnic University, SLO > fedora at andrewfarris.com > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From zyk at hotpop.com Sat Mar 6 18:58:25 2004 From: zyk at hotpop.com (zyk at hotpop.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:58:25 -0300 Subject: Using XFS file system with Fedora Message-ID: <200403061558.25404.zyk@hotpop.com> I am using (for test propose) Fedora C2 test1 on XFS file system. I installed xfsprogs (thanks Jesse Keating) and know I can check and repair xfs partitions, but "/sbin/fsck.xfs" does nothing. I'd like use xfs with Fedora, because I have a big (120Gb) XFS partition. It is secure use xfs file system with Fedora? From mrsam at courier-mta.com Sat Mar 6 18:58:10 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:58:10 -0500 Subject: x86_64 iso's for Test 2 References: <4047EE19.8050603@warcry.com> <200403052050.58375.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403060858.26927.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: Jesse Keating writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 06 March 2004 06:15, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> It's right there in the attachment to the bug: >> >> scsi0 : Adaptec AIC79XX PCI-X SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 1.3.10 >> >> aic7901A: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 101-133Mhz, >> 512 SCBs > > er, color me ignorant. Sorry I missed that. Looks like it is the updated > version I had to use in the 32bit platform. > > We have a few systems at work that use this chipset, so I'll be bugging the > kernel folk to take a look at it. I wonder if this problem exists with > the RHEL3 amd64 kernel. Will have to test. Sam, thank you for bringing > this to my attention. Although this one is certainly an annoyance, it's not a showstopper, since forcing the controller down to 160MB/s works. The other one, the kernel oops, is the showstopper. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jamesjones01 at mchsi.com Sat Mar 6 19:07:32 2004 From: jamesjones01 at mchsi.com (James Jones) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:07:32 -0600 Subject: no .img files in image directory on FC2 Test 1 disc 1 Message-ID: <404A2174.6030300@mchsi.com> I'm trying to install FC2 Test 1 on a Digital PC 5400 (an old Pentium Pro box). Curiously, Knoppix boots on it fine, but it has failed to boot up FC1, Mandrake 9.2, and now FC2 from CD, saying isolinux: Found something at drive=9F isolinux: Looks like it might be right, continuing... isolinux: image checksum error, sorry... Boot failed: press a key to retry... No problem, I say; I'll make a bootable floppy. I double check the README files, and then head to the images directory...but there are no .img files to be found there. What should I do? James Jones From jurgen at botz.org Sat Mar 6 20:00:31 2004 From: jurgen at botz.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Botz?=) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 12:00:31 -0800 Subject: Reiserfs b0rken in latest kernel In-Reply-To: <404A021A.5080100@rueb.com> References: <404A021A.5080100@rueb.com> Message-ID: <404A2DDF.60606@botz.org> Steve Bergman wrote: > I am seeing behavior identical to what I saw several kernels ago. > Around -100 I think. The system hangs on boot up at "remounting > filesystem read-write. The root fs is reiserfs. My root fs isn't reiser, but one of my other fs's is and 2.6.3-2.1.240 hangs when trying to mount that for me, too. :j -- J?rgen Botz | While differing widely in the various jurgen at botz.org | little bits we know, in our infinite | ignorance we are all equal. -Karl Popper From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 6 20:04:43 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 12:04:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: system hangs on "enabling swap space" FC2test1 Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.240 Message-ID: <20040306200443.91238.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- i just installed Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.240 and now my system hangs with the initial X background and the cursor changed to an "X". i hit ctrl-alt-backspace and then i see the boot log and the system hanging on "enabling swap space". i'm able to boot with the FC2test1 "linux rescue disk" to make changes to the system. any ideas? suggestions? links that explain how to fix this? thanks... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From randysch at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 20:10:42 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:10:42 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <404A3042.9050901@comcast.net> Daniel Roesen wrote: > So unless you _have_ IPv6 outside connectivity (either by some router on > your LAN advertising a default route to your host or by yourself > configuring a static IPv6 default route), there is no default route and > any attempt to connect to an IPv6 address outside your local LAN will > _immediately_ result in a "no route to host" and thus a failure. Without > noticable delay. > If someone has long timeout delays, there is something misconfigured... > e.g. a static default to a nonexistant default router. THIS needs to > be fixed. Here's the output from a dnslookup, ifconfig, and 'netstat -rn' on my box, with just IPV4 configured followed by the IPV6 results (as setup by the Fedora install): IPV4: 0.000000 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query A www.google.com 0.011393 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response CNAME www.g oogle.akadns.net A 216.239.39.147 A 216.239.39.104 A 216.239.39.99 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:03:C1:D1:BE inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::201:3ff:fec1:d1be/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:51 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:51 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:9416 (9.1 Kb) TX bytes:4229 (4.1 Kb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd400 Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 And here's the IPV6 version: 0.000000 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query AAAA www.google.com 5.000097 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query AAAA www.google.com 5.010537 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response CNAME www.g oogle.akadns.net 5.010918 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query A www.google.com 5.024892 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response CNAME www.g oogle.akadns.net A 216.239.39.104 A 216.239.39.99 A 216.239.39.147 5.025460 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query PTR 104.39.239.216.i n-addr.arpa 10.025349 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query PTR 104.39.239.216.i n-addr.arpa 10.039552 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response, No such na me 10.039963 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query AAAA www.google.com 10.050470 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response CNAME www.g oogle.akadns.net 10.051063 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query PTR 99.39.239.216.in -addr.arpa 15.050580 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query PTR 99.39.239.216.in -addr.arpa (that was from loading http://www.google.com Note the AAAA responses) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:03:C1:D1:BE inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::201:3ff:fec1:d1be/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:123 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:163 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:68112 (66.5 Kb) TX bytes:17927 (17.5 Kb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd400 Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Routing looks the same in either case. /etc/resolv.conf is the same for both, namely this: ; generated by /sbin/dhclient-script nameserver 68.54.80.5 If there's something else in the config that's needed, without shutting off ipv6, that'd be fine. I just wanted to get my net connection working the way it should, and turning ipv6 off did the trick. .Any other tests or suggestions? Thanks, randy From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sat Mar 6 20:15:57 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 14:15:57 -0600 Subject: system hangs on "enabling swap space" FC2test1 Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.240 References: <20040306200443.91238.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401c403b7$d7e90e50$72b9fc80@rwa1> I've been having the same problem since 2.6.3-1.106; it's now happens with every version of the kernel that I try to use. Take a look at bug #117658, which I posted a few hours ago. See if you have anything to add to that. You can also look at the 'system crash' thread that I started on the list on 2/26/04. From that thread, a temporary 'workaround' is to arrow to the kernel version you want to boot, hit 'e', arrow down one and hit 'e' again, change 'rhgb' to 'nogui', hit 'enter' and then hit 'b' to boot. The change is only for that boot (i.e., you have to redo it every time unless you changed it in grub.conf). See if you get the other problem I describe in the bug report after doing the above. Richard Ayer III From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Mar 6 20:28:03 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 20:28:03 +0000 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 Message-ID: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Are there any plans to use XFree86 4.4 with FC2? I'm running it now and it is *way* better than the 4.3 branch in terms of speed, font reliability and window handling. I'm aware that there is something up with the licence not being 100% kosher with the GPL, but should that stop it? Apache has a wrangle and that is shipped. TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 6 20:53:59 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 12:53:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: system hangs on "enabling swap space" FC2test1 Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.240 In-Reply-To: <000401c403b7$d7e90e50$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <20040306205359.36135.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Richard- i posted some additional comments on your bug report. it appears from reading the bugzilla report and the thread you referred me to that we are having the same exact problem. interestingly, the problem alerted me to others. the nogui option informed of issues with cpuspeed and some other modprobe issues. i am wondering did you ever have this problem: modprobe: FATAL: module mousedev not found it perplexes me because my mouse has worked since installing (and still does). i am assuming i must make a modprobe entry. do you know what that entry should be? and why is this reporting an error if the mouse works? if you can help me with this too that would be great; if not, hopefully we can work this other problem out together and get our systems up and running again. thanks... mark. --- Richard Ayer III wrote: > I've been having the same problem since 2.6.3-1.106; it's now happens with > every version of the kernel that I try to use. > Take a look at bug #117658, which I posted a few hours ago. See if you have > anything to add to that. You can also look at the 'system crash' thread that > I started on the list on 2/26/04. From that thread, a temporary 'workaround' > is to arrow to the kernel version you want to boot, hit 'e', arrow down one > and hit 'e' again, change 'rhgb' to 'nogui', hit 'enter' and then hit 'b' to > boot. The change is only for that boot (i.e., you have to redo it every time > unless you changed it in grub.conf). See if you get the other problem I > describe in the bug report after doing the above. > > Richard Ayer III > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From pbender at qualcomm.com Sat Mar 6 20:56:27 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 12:56:27 -0800 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> References: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1078606586.11704.2.camel@pbender.qualcomm.com> No, unless Red Hat changed their mind very recently. On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 12:28, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any plans to use XFree86 4.4 with FC2? I'm running it now and > it is *way* better than the 4.3 branch in terms of speed, font > reliability and window handling. > > I'm aware that there is something up with the licence not being 100% > kosher with the GPL, but should that stop it? Apache has a wrangle and > that is shipped. > > TTFN > > Paul From steve at rueb.com Sat Mar 6 21:09:18 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:09:18 -0600 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <1078606586.11704.2.camel@pbender.qualcomm.com> References: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> <1078606586.11704.2.camel@pbender.qualcomm.com> Message-ID: <404A3DFE.3090500@rueb.com> Paul Bender wrote: >No, unless Red Hat changed their mind very recently. > > > > > I applaud RedHat/Fedora for this decision. Even if the licensing issue were resolved today, other problems still remain. For a very long time there has been something "wrong" with respect to the attitude of the Xfree86 project. Team play does not seem to be a goal for them, which is bad for the community in general. -Steve From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sat Mar 6 21:11:02 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:11:02 -0600 Subject: system hangs on "enabling swap space" FC2test1 Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.240 References: <20040306205359.36135.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001d01c403bf$88ee9330$72b9fc80@rwa1> I saw them; /usr/share/gdm/themes/Bluecurve/icon-language.png is the same file it complains about for me. I thought it had to do with the fact that I had also installed libpng-1.2.5 for use with xine (which doesn't work btw); but I removed it and that didn't fix the problem. I feel like the problem has something to do with libpng and/or how X interfaces with it (because of the issues I had with graphical up2date and gkrellm before rebooting); but I have no idea how to figure out whether or not thats the case, and then fix it. cpuspeed doesn't work for me either; I have an Athlon XP 1800+. As for the mouse, I'm not sure. The only problem I've had thus far is that /etc/X11/XF86config needed to have the line with "/dev/psaux" changed to "/dev/input/mice"; X should have been crashing for you if that weren't already set, but you might check it anyway. Hopefully other people will start seeing this problem, and comparing system configs will help solve. For anyone else, check out bug #117658 and see what you think; TIA. Richard Ayer III From czar at czarc.net Sat Mar 6 21:10:57 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:10:57 -0500 Subject: need help Message-ID: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> I am attempting to install some form of Red Hat or Fedora Linux on a notebook system. The hardware is a An American Computech ACI eMax notebook -- http://www.americancomputech.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=160962 This system includes a built-in "6-IN-1" flash memory card reader (USB). I have tried a number of different versions ... RHL9, FC1, Red Hat Professional Workstation, FC2-Test1, and the 6 Mar version of boot.iso. All of these seem to work the same (have the same problem(s)). I also tried RHL 8 and was able to bootup into the installer. 1. If the builtin winmodem is enabled, the kernel bootup hangs ... disable in BIOS to proceed further. 2. If USB enabled in the BIOS, hang in kernel bootup with last message being that psaux being used for all mice. 3. With USB disabled in the BIOS, the kernel bootup completes, the anaconda startup begins and then hangs with the last displayed message bing that /sbin/loader is started. I have tried various kernel parameters such as acpi=off, apm=off, noapic, nousb ... all to no effect. The reason for putting this out to this mailing list is that I get this problem with FC2-test1 and figure that if I can fix that then I can do what I want/need. Since I have a purchased copy of Red Hat Professional Workstation, I will be trying that support on Monday. This is a dual boot system with Win2k installed in hda1/C: ... this works fine. So maybe this system is just not able to run Linux ... well, not true: With USB all enabled: 1. Mandrake 9.2 has been installed (not by me) and works ... sort of ... mostly ... sometimes. I can bootup the Mandrake install cdrom and get into the install with no problems. 2. SuSE 9.0 LiveEval comes up fine. 3. SuSE 9.0 installation DVD boots up and enters the installer. 4. Knoppix (both regular and STD) bootup and run fine. I have not put this into bugzilla yet because the information I currently have is not much. If anyone has suggestions to try ... please, make them! I would really prefer to be running some flavor of supported Red Hat or Fedora on this system. -- Gene From steve at rueb.com Sat Mar 6 21:16:15 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:16:15 -0600 Subject: need help In-Reply-To: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <404A3F9F.6010002@rueb.com> Gene C. wrote: >I am attempting to install some form of Red Hat or Fedora Linux on a notebook >system. The hardware is a An American Computech ACI eMax notebook -- >http://www.americancomputech.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=160962 This system >includes a built-in "6-IN-1" flash memory card reader (USB). > > I guess you've already tried a text install? -Steve From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 6 21:30:55 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:30:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <404A3DFE.3090500@rueb.com> Message-ID: <20040306213055.51941.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- i wonder (in the future) if there will now become two separate branches to the XFree86 code of if a replacement will be developed. i heard of a replacement to X-windows called y-windows; it supposedly is being written as a modern, open source (GPL'd) window architecture, which is both modular and network transparent among other things.i wonder if something like this will be considered. i believe a working prototype exists but is in the early stages. just a thought. mark. --- Steve Bergman wrote: > Paul Bender wrote: > > >No, unless Red Hat changed their mind very recently. > > > > > > > > > > > I applaud RedHat/Fedora for this decision. Even if the licensing issue > were resolved today, other problems still remain. For a very long time > there has been something "wrong" with respect to the attitude of the > Xfree86 project. Team play does not seem to be a goal for them, which > is bad for the community in general. > > -Steve > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From czar at czarc.net Sat Mar 6 21:33:34 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:33:34 -0500 Subject: need help In-Reply-To: <404A3F9F.6010002@rueb.com> References: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> <404A3F9F.6010002@rueb.com> Message-ID: <200403061633.34483.czar@czarc.net> On Saturday 06 March 2004 16:16, Steve Bergman wrote: > Gene C. wrote: > >I am attempting to install some form of Red Hat or Fedora Linux on a > > notebook system. The hardware is a An American Computech ACI eMax > > notebook -- http://www.americancomputech.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=160962 > > This system includes a built-in "6-IN-1" flash memory card reader (USB). > > > > I guess you've already tried a text install? For the most part I am trying to do nfs installs. However, I don't even get to stage2 where text versus gui might be a problem. What bothers me is that every other d*** distribution I have tried does not have a problem ... just Red Hat/Fedora variations (except RHL 8 and it is too old to consider). -- Gene From gbpeck at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 6 21:37:34 2004 From: gbpeck at sbcglobal.net (Gary Peck) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:37:34 -0800 Subject: gtk does not recognize svg In-Reply-To: <20040306055336.GD29745@inxservices.com> References: <40496621.1050706@comcast.net> <20040306055336.GD29745@inxservices.com> Message-ID: <20040306213734.GB11532@realify.com> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 09:53:36PM -0800, George Garvey wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 12:48:17AM -0500, Marcus Schuetz wrote: > > After the last slew of updates metacity oand gtk-2.0 themes with svg > > pics no longer work. .xsession-errors is full of messages of the type: > > > > Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file > > format for file > > '/usr/share/themes/CoolGorilla/gtk-2.0/CoolGorilla_stock_dnd.svg' > > No idea if this is your solution: one of our users reported that gdm > never ran after they came back from lunch. Tracked it down to 2 files > missing in /etc/gtk-2.0: gdk-pixbuf.loaders and gtk-immodules. When I > copied those 2 files from another, working, system; everything was fine. > The error message was very similar to what you're showing above. Those files got messed up with the last gtk2/libgnomeui upgrade I think. Run the following after making sure you have the latest rawhide updates installed: umask 022 /usr/bin/gtk-query-immodules-2.0 > /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders gary From gbpeck at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 6 21:40:15 2004 From: gbpeck at sbcglobal.net (Gary Peck) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:40:15 -0800 Subject: building external modules In-Reply-To: <20040305041057.GF29361@realify.com> References: <20040304204858.GA2091@free.fr> <20040305041057.GF29361@realify.com> Message-ID: <20040306214015.GC11532@realify.com> Ok, filed in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117645 gary On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 08:10:57PM -0800, Gary Peck wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 09:48:58PM +0100, Dumas Patrice wrote: > > Since the kernel is 2.6, I have trouble compiling and installing an external > > module. I could only compile the driver as root. > > Yeah, I've noticed the same problem. I keep meaning to bugzilla it, but > haven't gotten around to it yet. In the meantime, here's my notes on how > to compile modules as a normal user: > > > And before I compile it I had to do the following as root: > > > > * edit the Makefile in /usr/src/kernel-2.6.... and remove 'custom' from the > > EXTRAVERSION. Otherwise it isn't installed at the right place. > > * run > > make oldconfig > > make prepare > > As of the 2.6 kernel, you don't need kernel-source installed to compile > kernel modules (which is what it looks like you're doing). The kernel > package now contains all necessary files. > > > If I try to compile as a user, I get > > [pat at localhost driver]$ make > > make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=/home/pat/src/eagleusb/driver modules > > make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/fc2t/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-1.118' > > HOSTCC scripts/modpost.o > > cc1 : Permission non accord?e : ouverture du fichier de d?pendances > > scripts/.modpost.o.d > > make[2]: *** [scripts/modpost.o] Erreur 1 > > make[1]: *** [scripts] Erreur 2 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/fc2t/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-1.118' > > make: *** [eagle-usb.ko] Erreur 2 > > Even though you should only need the kernel package, the current Fedora > one is missing some files. Specifically, all the actual executables are > there, but some of the intermediate files are missing. This triggers > make to try and rebuild them. Do this as a workaround (assuming kernel > version 2.6.3-1.118) while logged in as root: > > sed -ie 's/^always/#always/' \ > /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/scripts/Makefile \ > /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/scripts/genksyms/Makefile > > Some timestamps are also messed up: > > touch -r `ls -t /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/scripts/split-include \ > /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/include/linux/autoconf.h \ > /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/include/config/MARKER | head -1` \ > /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/include/config/MARKER > touch -r /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s \ > /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h > > And last but not least, I had to do the following, though I'm not sure > if this is necessary for all external modules, or just the one I was > building: > > ln -s /dev/null /lib/modules/2.6.3-1.118/build/.__modpost.cmd > > After the above commands, you should be able to build modules as a > normal user. > > gary > > From antitux at antitux.net Sat Mar 6 21:48:17 2004 From: antitux at antitux.net (John Dee) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 14:48:17 -0700 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> References: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <404A4721.5080509@antitux.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi paul. I have been following this for a while, and I think the main reason that no distributions are shipping XFree86 4.4.0 is because in the license agreement, it requires written permission to advertise, and distribute binaries. Along with adding some sort of notice to the packaging, etc. This is what's stopping XFree86 4.4.0 from being shipped with it's current licenses. Thank you, John Dee Paul wrote: | Hi, | | Are there any plans to use XFree86 4.4 with FC2? I'm running it now and | it is *way* better than the 4.3 branch in terms of speed, font | reliability and window handling. | | I'm aware that there is something up with the licence not being 100% | kosher with the GPL, but should that stop it? Apache has a wrangle and | that is shipped. | | TTFN | | Paul -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFASkchhf6hBevzxKARAmZHAJ9OepV6wF35rcuv8xyXcl1dn/v/4wCfSN79 FGrfVJGSMcv8/Gu87CtzeTI= =XcXl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sat Mar 6 21:49:49 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:49:49 -0800 Subject: NVIDIA & Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.283 In-Reply-To: <4049E355.9080108@hispeed.ch> References: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> <4049E355.9080108@hispeed.ch> Message-ID: <1078609789.3590.3.camel@CirithUngol> On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 15:42 +0100, Raphael J. wrote: > shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > > Raphael J. wrote: > > > >> Installed new kernel, rebooted and rebuilt my NVIDIA drivers(1.0-5336) > >> for X > >> without any problems. > >> But now when Fedora tries to start the X display i just get a black > >> display and > >> the complete system freezes. I can't switch to the text consoles. The 53.36 is the latest available driver, the Beta 46.20 (what you refer to below?) is older and does not support 2.6.x kernels without patches. You could try these patches, from www.minion.de, which worked very well until nVidia had 2.6 support (which is this guy's work applied to their official). Are there any relevant changes to the kernel config between the version that worked and any that don't? The configs are all included in the kernel-source package. > Just tried the latest kernel 2.6.3-2.1.240, same problem. > After a quick search on the nvidia forums I found out that a beta driver > is out. Gonna try that one if I can find i > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Andrew J Farris afarris at calpoly.edu :: andrew at andrewfarris.com California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo CA http://www.andrewfarris.com/ From razvan.vilt at linux360.ro Sat Mar 6 22:00:36 2004 From: razvan.vilt at linux360.ro (Razvan Corneliu C.R. "d3vi1" VILT) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:00:36 +0200 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <20040306213055.51941.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040306213055.51941.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1078610436.27603.22.camel@d3vi1.linux360.ro> On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 13:30 -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > i wonder (in the future) if there will now become two separate branches to > the XFree86 code of if a replacement will be developed. i heard of a > replacement to X-windows called y-windows; it supposedly is being written as a > modern, open source (GPL'd) window architecture, which is both modular and > network transparent among other things.i wonder if something like this will be > considered. i believe a working prototype exists but is in the early stages. > just a thought. > > mark. Y-Windows is something completly different from XWindows. The problem now is what are the options: 1) Keep going with XFree86 4.3 + selected patches from 4.4 written until the licence was changed. This seems like the most likely one. 2) Add another X-Server. Here there are many options: a) Xouvert (Unless they will continue to work with XFree86 codebase, which means that the licence of their software will change) b) XServ from freedesktop.org. Unfortunately this project is still in it's early stages of development. There are of course some very cool features, but it's not gonna be stable enough soon. c) X11 from X.org. It's the base of most of the XServers currently existing. Unfortunately, there's a lot of work to do until it's a drop- ing replacement for XFree86. In the fedora development process they are trying to change all the deps from XFree86 provided ones to more generic ones, but this also takes time. The first thing that should be done, when changing an X-Server, is adding in it's provides something like X11-devel. Then all the appliactions that need the X11 headers (there are many trust me), should have their BUILD Requirements changed from XFree86- devel to X11-devel. This is only for the headers, but there are many others which are problematic. Just changing these in all the specs, should make a replacement of the X-Server easier, but, what are the options. In my opinion XFree86 4.3, or 4.4-RC1 (where it still has the old licence, I belive) should be good enough. Just patch that one. From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Sat Mar 6 22:44:39 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:44:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: no .img files in image directory on FC2 Test 1 disc 1 In-Reply-To: <404A2174.6030300@mchsi.com> References: <404A2174.6030300@mchsi.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, James Jones wrote: > I'm trying to install FC2 Test 1 on a Digital PC 5400 (an old Pentium > Pro box). Curiously, Knoppix boots on it fine, but it has failed to boot > up FC1, Mandrake 9.2, and now FC2 from CD, saying > > isolinux: Found something at drive=9F > isolinux: Looks like it might be right, continuing... > isolinux: image checksum error, sorry... Sounds like a corrupt image, did you check the md5sums before you burnt them? > No problem, I say; I'll make a bootable floppy. I double check the > README files, and then head to the images directory...but there are no > .img files to be found there. If you have linux already installed, put the isos on a hard disk, extract the kernel and initrd from disc 1 and use grub to boot it. Michael Young From lewt at warcry.com Sat Mar 6 23:30:26 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 17:30:26 -0600 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <1078610436.27603.22.camel@d3vi1.linux360.ro> References: <20040306213055.51941.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> <1078610436.27603.22.camel@d3vi1.linux360.ro> Message-ID: <404A5F12.2010001@warcry.com> Razvan Corneliu C.R. "d3vi1" VILT wrote: >On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 13:30 -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > >>Hello- >> >> i wonder (in the future) if there will now become two separate branches to >>the XFree86 code of if a replacement will be developed. i heard of a >>replacement to X-windows called y-windows; it supposedly is being written as a >>modern, open source (GPL'd) window architecture, which is both modular and >>network transparent among other things.i wonder if something like this will be >>considered. i believe a working prototype exists but is in the early stages. >>just a thought. >> >>mark. >> >> > >Y-Windows is something completly different from XWindows. >The problem now is what are the options: >1) Keep going with XFree86 4.3 + selected patches from 4.4 written until >the licence was changed. This seems like the most likely one. >2) Add another X-Server. Here there are many options: > a) Xouvert (Unless they will continue to work with XFree86 >codebase, which means that the licence of their software will change) > b) XServ from freedesktop.org. Unfortunately this project is still >in it's early stages of development. There are of course some very cool >features, but it's not gonna be stable enough soon. > c) X11 from X.org. It's the base of most of the XServers currently >existing. Unfortunately, there's a lot of work to do until it's a drop- >ing replacement for XFree86. > >In the fedora development process they are trying to change all the deps >from XFree86 provided ones to more generic ones, but this also takes >time. The first thing that should be done, when changing an X-Server, is >adding in it's provides something like X11-devel. >Then all the appliactions that need the X11 headers (there are many >trust me), should have their BUILD Requirements changed from XFree86- >devel to X11-devel. This is only for the headers, but there are many >others which are problematic. >Just changing these in all the specs, should make a replacement of the >X-Server easier, but, what are the options. >In my opinion XFree86 4.3, or 4.4-RC1 (where it still has the old >licence, I belive) should be good enough. Just patch that one. > > > > Xouvert should be a drop in replacement. In fact they're including MAS into the next release and making all the source more modular so it's easier to implement changes. Plus a lot of other cool things with drivers and other stuff should happen. However these guys need more coders to keep things going IMO. Corey From lewt at warcry.com Sat Mar 6 23:36:07 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 17:36:07 -0600 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <1078610436.27603.22.camel@d3vi1.linux360.ro> References: <20040306213055.51941.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> <1078610436.27603.22.camel@d3vi1.linux360.ro> Message-ID: <404A6067.6000402@warcry.com> Razvan Corneliu C.R. "d3vi1" VILT wrote: >On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 13:30 -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > >>Hello- >> >> i wonder (in the future) if there will now become two separate branches to >>the XFree86 code of if a replacement will be developed. i heard of a >>replacement to X-windows called y-windows; it supposedly is being written as a >>modern, open source (GPL'd) window architecture, which is both modular and >>network transparent among other things.i wonder if something like this will be >>considered. i believe a working prototype exists but is in the early stages. >>just a thought. >> >>mark. >> >> > >Y-Windows is something completly different from XWindows. >The problem now is what are the options: >1) Keep going with XFree86 4.3 + selected patches from 4.4 written until >the licence was changed. This seems like the most likely one. >2) Add another X-Server. Here there are many options: > a) Xouvert (Unless they will continue to work with XFree86 >codebase, which means that the licence of their software will change) > b) XServ from freedesktop.org. Unfortunately this project is still >in it's early stages of development. There are of course some very cool >features, but it's not gonna be stable enough soon. > c) X11 from X.org. It's the base of most of the XServers currently >existing. Unfortunately, there's a lot of work to do until it's a drop- >ing replacement for XFree86. > >In the fedora development process they are trying to change all the deps >from XFree86 provided ones to more generic ones, but this also takes >time. The first thing that should be done, when changing an X-Server, is >adding in it's provides something like X11-devel. >Then all the appliactions that need the X11 headers (there are many >trust me), should have their BUILD Requirements changed from XFree86- >devel to X11-devel. This is only for the headers, but there are many >others which are problematic. >Just changing these in all the specs, should make a replacement of the >X-Server easier, but, what are the options. >In my opinion XFree86 4.3, or 4.4-RC1 (where it still has the old >licence, I belive) should be good enough. Just patch that one. > > > > And actually I've been lurking in their IRC room for quite awhile.. backtracked a bit.. [16:11] Odin-: we ARE folding into keithp's project. [16:11] Odin-: just not in a way that's obvious to outsiders. [16:11] Odin-: we'll be sharing drivers and modules. [16:12] Odin-: he is purposely doing the new extensions in a way that we can just drop them into Xouvert. [16:12] SirDibos: are you sure about that? [16:12] Odin-: Xouvert and Xserver will eventually merge, once Xserver has all the drivers. SirDibos AFAIK is one of the lead coders of Xouvert.. So it seems Xouvert and fd.org Xserve will eventually merge. Maybe someone at redhat could prod them along a bit =) From warlock_ba at hotmail.com Sat Mar 6 23:39:48 2004 From: warlock_ba at hotmail.com (Andrei Botoaca) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 01:39:48 +0200 Subject: NVIDIA & Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.283 In-Reply-To: <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> References: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1078616387.7641.0.camel@gelu.damage_inc> Use in XFree86Config the option to disable the AGP, and try it that way, agpgart crashes it, i made it work, just today! Sweets, Me On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 14:01, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > Raphael J. wrote: > > > Installed new kernel, rebooted and rebuilt my NVIDIA drivers(1.0-5336) > > for X > > without any problems. > > But now when Fedora tries to start the X display i just get a black > > display and > > the complete system freezes. I can't switch to the text consoles. > > > > I hope this is just a temporary problem and will be fixed in the next > > kernel version. > > > wishful thinking > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-October/msg02059.html > > > > Nvidia proprietary drivers are unsupported by Red Hat. Nvidia > has web forums for discussion of problems and technical support > for their users however which you might find useful. If you > report problems there, most likely Nvidia will fix them for their > next driver release once Fedora Core 1 is officially released. > > > -- > shrek-m > From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sat Mar 6 23:41:55 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 17:41:55 -0600 Subject: system crash References: <20040226071909.31356.qmail@web60401.mail.yahoo.com> <403DFF22.4010003@robotthoughts.com> <003701c3fc8d$9537db80$72b9fc80@rwa1> <403EBF82.80403@robotthoughts.com> <002f01c3fd0b$600a4820$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1077889678.28625.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <003301c403d4$f9a05180$72b9fc80@rwa1> Okay, filed one bug for the rhgb/X stuff, and one for the NIC stuff: rhgb/X: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117658 NIC: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117659 Richard Ayer III From barryn at pobox.com Sat Mar 6 23:53:22 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:53:22 -0800 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> References: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <20040306235322.GA2834@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 08:28:03PM +0000, Paul wrote: > Are there any plans to use XFree86 4.4 with FC2? I'm running it now and > it is *way* better than the 4.3 branch in terms of speed, font > reliability and window handling. > > I'm aware that there is something up with the licence not being 100% > kosher with the GPL, but should that stop it? Apache has a wrangle and > that is shipped. OpenBSD is also not shipping XFree86 4.4: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=107696705911864&w=2 Even if it weren't for the license, I imagine it's too late in the release cycle to include it anyway. -Barry K. Nathan From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Mar 7 00:14:41 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:14:41 +0000 Subject: Request for inclusion Message-ID: <1078618481.15653.70.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Can't seem to see it on bugzilla, but any chance of including GAMBAS (VB clone, except it works), Anjuta (very capable IDE), wxGadgets, wxPython and wxGlade? TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm glad 4.4 is working well for you since it should mean the x.org tree also does. > I'm aware that there is something up with the licence not being 100% > kosher with the GPL, but should that stop it? Apache has a wrangle and > that is shipped. Apache doesn't get linked with GPL apps (and Apache has always been GPL non friendly because of other things our version links with). So the whole "apache shock horror" thing has really had most people scratching their heads attempting to understand why it is a story. Alan From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 7 00:42:41 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:42:41 -0500 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <1078610436.27603.22.camel@d3vi1.linux360.ro> References: <20040306213055.51941.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> <1078610436.27603.22.camel@d3vi1.linux360.ro> Message-ID: <20040307004241.GF19729@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:00:36AM +0200, Razvan Corneliu C.R. d3vi1 VILT wrote: > 2) Add another X-Server. Here there are many options: > a) Xouvert (Unless they will continue to work with XFree86 2a is as good as deead > c) X11 from X.org. It's the base of most of the XServers currently > existing. Unfortunately, there's a lot of work to do until it's a drop- > ing replacement for XFree86. Actually its looking very close to ready to roll already. The tree is basically XFree 4.4 without the problem files. From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Sun Mar 7 01:19:27 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 20:19:27 -0500 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <20040307003719.GB19729@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> <20040307003719.GB19729@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1078622366.7821.7.camel@family> On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 19:37 -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > A tree without the > problematic changes is being maintained by 'everyone else' as the X.org tree > at freedesktop.org. > Could this be put in test rpms so some people could test along side XFree 4.3 with FC2 or is it just not ready yet? From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 7 01:55:28 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:55:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> References: <1078604882.15653.1.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <64752.69.68.50.13.1078624528.squirrel@69.68.50.13> Paul said: [snip] > I'm aware that there is something up with the licence not being 100% > kosher with the GPL, but should that stop it? Apache has a wrangle and > that is shipped. As a side note, Apache's httpd never has been GPL compatible. The only thing that has changed is that the Apache group thinks their new license is GPL compatible, but the FSF doesn't. Nothing to see here, move along... -- William Hooper From lewt at warcry.com Sun Mar 7 02:52:09 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 20:52:09 -0600 Subject: XFree86 4.4.0 In-Reply-To: <20040307004241.GF19729@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040306213055.51941.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> <1078610436.27603.22.camel@d3vi1.linux360.ro> <20040307004241.GF19729@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <404A8E59.2020305@warcry.com> Alan Cox wrote: >On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:00:36AM +0200, Razvan Corneliu C.R. d3vi1 VILT wrote: > > >>2) Add another X-Server. Here there are many options: >> a) Xouvert (Unless they will continue to work with XFree86 >> >> > >2a is as good as deead > > > >> c) X11 from X.org. It's the base of most of the XServers currently >>existing. Unfortunately, there's a lot of work to do until it's a drop- >>ing replacement for XFree86. >> >> > >Actually its looking very close to ready to roll already. The tree is basically >XFree 4.4 without the problem files. > > > > So assuming they dont take the crack the XFree86 group decided to ingest.. FC 3 might have the vanilla X11? From lewt at warcry.com Sun Mar 7 03:01:26 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:01:26 -0600 Subject: Laptop Dock Station Resolutions Message-ID: <404A9086.5090600@warcry.com> One of the greater fustrations with our laptops at work using Linux is the innability for us to have our resolution go up when plugging it into the docking station.. Would that be a feature RedHat could build such as a daemon that would restart X with a secondary config for the connected monitor? Or would that be in the realm of whatever X server we jump to if we jump to anything? From biped at comcast.net Sun Mar 7 03:41:15 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:41:15 -0500 Subject: gtk does not recognize svg In-Reply-To: <20040306213734.GB11532@realify.com> References: <40496621.1050706@comcast.net> <20040306055336.GD29745@inxservices.com> <20040306213734.GB11532@realify.com> Message-ID: <404A99DB.20502@comcast.net> Gary Peck released the following into the bitstream on 03/06/04 16:37: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 09:53:36PM -0800, George Garvey wrote: > >>On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 12:48:17AM -0500, Marcus Schuetz wrote: >> >>>After the last slew of updates metacity oand gtk-2.0 themes with svg >>>pics no longer work. .xsession-errors is full of messages of the type: >>> >>>Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file >>>format for file >>>'/usr/share/themes/CoolGorilla/gtk-2.0/CoolGorilla_stock_dnd.svg' >> >> No idea if this is your solution: one of our users reported that gdm >>never ran after they came back from lunch. Tracked it down to 2 files >>missing in /etc/gtk-2.0: gdk-pixbuf.loaders and gtk-immodules. When I >>copied those 2 files from another, working, system; everything was fine. >>The error message was very similar to what you're showing above. > > > Those files got messed up with the last gtk2/libgnomeui upgrade I think. > Run the following after making sure you have the latest rawhide updates > installed: > umask 022 > /usr/bin/gtk-query-immodules-2.0 > /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules > /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders > > gary > > Unfortunately that didn't work :( :: Marcus From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun Mar 7 04:40:12 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:40:12 -0500 Subject: Wierd yum update results (today) In-Reply-To: <1078541154.22673.11.camel@binkley> References: <1078541154.22673.11.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <404AA7AC.80307@insight.rr.com> seth vidal wrote: >>....Unable to satisfy dependencies >>Package epiphany needs installed, this is not available. >>Package epiphany needs is, this is not available. >>Package epiphany needs not, this is not available. >>Package epiphany needs package, this is not available. > > > yum is doing exactly the right thing. > > rpm -qpR epiphany-1.1.10-1.i386.rpm > /bin/sh > /bin/sh > /bin/sh > GConf2 > gnome-icon-theme >= 1.0.6-1 > *installed > is > libICE.so.6 > libORBit-2.so.0 > libSM.so.6 > libX11.so.6 > libXcursor.so.1 > libart_lgpl_2.so.2 > libatk-1.0.so.0 > libbonobo-2.so.0 > libbonobo-activation.so.4 > libbonoboui-2.so.0 > libc.so.6 > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) > libdl.so.2 > libeel-2.so.2 > libgailutil.so.17 > libgcc_s.so.1 > libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0) > libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) > libgconf-2.so.4 > libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 > libglade-2.0.so.0 > libglib-2.0.so.0 > libgmodule-2.0.so.0 > libgnome-2.so.0 > libgnomecanvas-2.so.0 > libgnomeui-2.so.0 > libgnomevfs-2.so.0 > libgobject-2.0.so.0 > libgthread-2.0.so.0 > libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > libgtkembedmoz.so > libm.so.6 > libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) > libnautilus.so.2 > libnspr4.so > libpango-1.0.so.0 > libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 > libpangox-1.0.so.0 > libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 > libplc4.so > libplds4.so > libpopt.so.0 > libpthread.so.0 > libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) > libstdc++.so.5 > libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) > libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) > libxml2.so.2 > libxpcom.so > libz.so.1 > mozilla > not > package > rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 > rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 > scrollkeeper > > > Notice anything odd in there? > > -sv > > > Thanks for posting the r From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun Mar 7 05:02:04 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:02:04 -0500 Subject: System hang during boot - on the reiserfs again In-Reply-To: <404A021A.5080100@rueb.com> References: <404A021A.5080100@rueb.com> Message-ID: <404AACCC.2060804@insight.rr.com> Steve Bergman wrote: > > > I am seeing behavior identical to what I saw several kernels ago. > Around -100 I think. The system hangs on boot up at "remounting > filesystem read-write. The root fs is reiserfs. > -238 and -240 both do this. -118 is fine. > > -Stevwe > > Thanks for the forewarning regarding the reiserfs problem resurfacing with the merge of the kernel resources put the bug back in for swap and reiserfs problems again. I didn't boot the newer kernel version yet. Jim From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 7 06:43:13 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:43:13 -0800 Subject: Laptop Dock Station Resolutions In-Reply-To: <404A9086.5090600@warcry.com> References: <404A9086.5090600@warcry.com> Message-ID: <20040307064313.GA15905@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 09:01:26PM -0600, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: > > One of the greater fustrations with our laptops at work using Linux is > the innability for us to have our resolution go up when plugging it into > the docking station.. Would that be a feature RedHat could build such > as a daemon that would restart X with a secondary config for the > connected monitor? Or would that be in the realm of whatever X server > we jump to if we jump to anything? There should be tricks.... since /etc/X11/XF86Config can have lines like: SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" In the documents: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.1-Manual/getting-started-guide/s1-q-and-a-xconfig.html You can select more than one screen resolution for example, if you prefer 800x600 and 1024x768, you can adjust your resolution at any time without opening Xconfigurator. To do this, use the [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[+ (plus)] or [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[- (minus)] keys to switch between resolutions. The + and - are on the tenkey pad area last I checked. This tells me that if the default is selected to display on both displays a [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Keypad + (plus)] will get the other/next as listed in the XF86Config file. See: http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.2/XFree86.1.html It may also be possible to test things on the docking station. Differences in "lspci" could be used on some to make decisions. It could be as simple as a script at login that presents a user with a reminder to do the [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Keypad + (plus)] thing. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From bartk at clara.co.uk Sun Mar 7 11:50:43 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 11:50:43 +0000 Subject: Problems with Yum and cifs + Evolution Q Message-ID: <404B0C93.9090208@clara.co.uk> Ok, I'm standing a chance of having my head snapt off by one of U guys or just simply having my questions ignored but at this moment I'm willing to take a chance. First: its a 1.90 system with all updates form devel tree installed ( 06.03.04 ) Now problems: Yum , despite of being updated to the newest rpm still comes with error: [root at nemesis bart]# yum check-update Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? import yummain File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 31, in ? import yumcomps File "/usr/share/yum/yumcomps.py", line 4, in ? import comps File "/usr/share/yum/comps.py", line 5, in ? import libxml2 File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? ImportError: No module named libxml2mod I've looked around for a solution but all I found where problems that where supposed to be solved by newest rpm. Next is cifs: I have 3 shares set up with WIN machines , one of them hosts an RPM folder with all updates downloded by me form devel tree. Ocasionally when I open the folder in Konqueror and then open terminal I can see files in konqueror, and copy them but terminal comes up with "there is no such file/folder error" the only solution is to kill X and mount the share again. Whats strange I can mount the same share n amount of times and it still doesnt see files in terminal untill I reboot or restart X. And finaly Evolution: well more of a annoyance than problem here but still something that bothers me. Why o why is the "summary page" gone from E?? where the developers scared that it might look to much like Outlook 2003?? Summary Page and a hope that one day Evolution will support usernet whast what make Evolution such a great prog, as it stands and looks now I might as well use any other e-mail program like Thunderbird which HAS usernet support. Evolution as it was before was great I had it always on one of the desktops and with one look I had all the info I required on one neat screen. thanks for reading, I hope I didnt rised anybodys blood pressure on this lovely sunday morning. -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From sdinucci at cableone.net Sun Mar 7 12:49:23 2004 From: sdinucci at cableone.net (Scott DiNucci) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 05:49:23 -0700 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <200403061437.16461.joao@wipmail.com.br> References: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> <200403060250.17991.joao@wipmail.com.br> <4049F945.8080607@cableone.net> <200403061437.16461.joao@wipmail.com.br> Message-ID: <404B1A53.4030404@cableone.net> After much research and trial and error, I am still able to ping outside my router but cannot browse with Mozilla. This is a dual boot system and I am Not having any problems with Windows XP/Mozilla browsing. To answer the questions from below: 1. The IPs for DNS are correct. In the router admin console I can see the DNS IPs are the same as what I am showing within the network card configuration. When I ping a url through the console it resolves to an IP. If I put the IP in Mozilla it still times out. 2. Yes, the router IP is 192.168.0.1 and it supports NAT 3. I can connect to the router with Mozilla and log in as admin and see the status. Any thoughts? Thanks for your help! Scott Jo?o wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi there > so you need to check if this IPs which appear under resolv.conf are really the > nameserver for you machine > > then you may check if you router/modem is the IP 192.168.0.1 and if it does > NAT correctly > > then you still may issue arp -an on the console to see of your are having > phisical connection to your router if the IP 192.168.0.1 appear as incomplete > or so you could have a cable problem > > Jo?o > > > > > On Saturday 06 March 2004 13:16, Scott DiNucci wrote: > >>Here are the results: >>ifconfig >>eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:5A:68:10:52 >> inet addr:192.168.0.2 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 >> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 >> RX packets:54 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >> TX packets:65 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 >> RX bytes:7142 (6.9 Kb) TX bytes:6384 (6.2 Kb) >> Interrupt:11 Base address:0x1800 >> >>lo Link encap:Local Loopback >> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 >> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 >> RX packets:2188 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >> TX packets:2188 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 >> RX bytes:1704871 (1.6 Mb) TX bytes:1704871 (1.6 Mb) >> >>netstat -rn >>Kernel IP routing table >>Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt >>Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 >> 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 >> 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 >> 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 >> 0 eth0 >> >>cat /etc/resolve.conf >>; generated by /sbin/dhclient-script >>nameserver 24.116.0.159 >>nameserver 24.116.0.202 >>nameserver 24.116.0.152 >> >>Thanks in advance for any help. >> >>Scott >> >>Jo?o wrote: >> >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>Hash: SHA1 >>> >>>On Saturday 06 March 2004 01:37, Scott DiNucci wrote: >>> >>>>Randy, >>>>Thanks for the fast reply. I saw the thread and had modified the >>>>/etc/modprobe.conf file and it did not fix the problem. If you watch the >>>>status line in Mozilla the resolving host happens very quickly and it >>>>hangs on the Connecting to ......... I also have a problem where the >>>>gui uo2date also seems to hang. It is as if messages are not getting >>>>back to the OS. >>>> >>>>Could this be caused by my ethernet card configuration? >>> >>>everything is possible ... you r comments are very thin >>> >>>please post the return of (the real output) >>> >>>ifconfig >>>netstat -rn >>>cat /etc/resolv.conf >>> >>>so then things get clearer >>> >>>Jo?o >>> >>> >>>>Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>>Scott >>> >>>- -- >>>Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: >>>GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc >>> { DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F 6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) >>> >>>iD8DBQFASWaUCmIEQLX9sjoRAimVAKCnZuXqXGyJSL75TKSMY2Fki4GHHQCfR6hV >>>3C3mLJRn2G92nXO4TpOe+tc= >>>=Izi4 >>>-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > - -- > Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: > GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc > { DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F 6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFASgxCCmIEQLX9sjoRAqV2AKCM2+Hfk+dP3v4qU1pm9kr7eZnlhACgij3O > QKLPiuAyK57a4uBfat4PyYY= > =1YpY > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Sun Mar 7 13:03:31 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 14:03:31 +0100 Subject: Request for inclusion In-Reply-To: <1078618481.15653.70.camel@T7.linux> References: <1078618481.15653.70.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <20040307140331.6fb13144.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:14:41 +0000, Paul wrote: > Can't seem to see it on bugzilla, but any chance of including GAMBAS (VB > clone, except it works), Anjuta (very capable IDE), wxGadgets, wxPython > and wxGlade? Anjuta -> fedora.us "stable" wxPython -> https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=927 -- From Peter.Onion at btinternet.com Sun Mar 7 13:16:56 2004 From: Peter.Onion at btinternet.com (Peter Onion) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 13:16:56 +0000 Subject: Kernel update kills X Message-ID: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> I'm new to Fedora, so plese bare with me if I'm a bit behind with stuff. (I normally run SuSE 9.0 but that's just too stable :-) Anyway.... I've installed FC2-test1 and updated up2date, and the kernel to 2.6.3-2.1.240. However this has killed X. Hardware is a VIA MII-10000 (C3 Nehemiah core) with CLE-266 graphics, but X is set to use the VESA driver. I've made the symbolic link changes to fix the mouse driver, and even upgraded the XFree86 packages, but when X tries to start the machine stops-dead. Power cycle needed to get it going again. All works OK with 2.6.1-1.65 from the install from the isos Peter From joao at wipmail.com.br Sun Mar 7 13:16:27 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:16:27 -0300 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <404B1A53.4030404@cableone.net> References: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> <200403061437.16461.joao@wipmail.com.br> <404B1A53.4030404@cableone.net> Message-ID: <200403071016.39498.joao@wipmail.com.br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 funny indeed what is about konqueror, do it work? let's see email also, do you get your email or any other internet program like irc or icq? Check your mozilla prefs and look if you have any proxy options selected. Undo them and check again. If this still do not help go into services and stop iptables and check again Jo?o On Sunday 07 March 2004 09:49, Scott DiNucci wrote: > After much research and trial and error, I am still able to ping outside my > router but cannot browse with Mozilla. This is a dual boot system and I am > Not having any problems with Windows XP/Mozilla browsing. To answer the > questions from below: > > 1. The IPs for DNS are correct. In the router admin console I can see the > DNS IPs are the same as what I am showing within the network card > configuration. When I ping a url through the console it resolves to an IP. > If I put the IP in Mozilla it still times out. > > 2. Yes, the router IP is 192.168.0.1 and it supports NAT > > 3. I can connect to the router with Mozilla and log in as admin and see the > status. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks for your help! > > Scott > > Jo?o wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Hi there > > so you need to check if this IPs which appear under resolv.conf are > > really the nameserver for you machine > > > > then you may check if you router/modem is the IP 192.168.0.1 and if it > > does NAT correctly > > > > then you still may issue arp -an on the console to see of your are having > > phisical connection to your router if the IP 192.168.0.1 appear as > > incomplete or so you could have a cable problem > > > > Jo?o > > > > On Saturday 06 March 2004 13:16, Scott DiNucci wrote: > >>Here are the results: > >>ifconfig > >>eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:5A:68:10:52 > >> inet addr:192.168.0.2 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > >> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > >> RX packets:54 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > >> TX packets:65 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > >> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > >> RX bytes:7142 (6.9 Kb) TX bytes:6384 (6.2 Kb) > >> Interrupt:11 Base address:0x1800 > >> > >>lo Link encap:Local Loopback > >> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > >> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > >> RX packets:2188 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > >> TX packets:2188 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > >> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > >> RX bytes:1704871 (1.6 Mb) TX bytes:1704871 (1.6 Mb) > >> > >>netstat -rn > >>Kernel IP routing table > >>Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt > >>Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 > >> 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 > >> 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 > >> 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 > >> 0 eth0 > >> > >>cat /etc/resolve.conf > >>; generated by /sbin/dhclient-script > >>nameserver 24.116.0.159 > >>nameserver 24.116.0.202 > >>nameserver 24.116.0.152 > >> > >>Thanks in advance for any help. > >> > >>Scott > >> > >>Jo?o wrote: > >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>Hash: SHA1 > >>> > >>>On Saturday 06 March 2004 01:37, Scott DiNucci wrote: > >>>>Randy, > >>>>Thanks for the fast reply. I saw the thread and had modified the > >>>>/etc/modprobe.conf file and it did not fix the problem. If you watch > >>>> the status line in Mozilla the resolving host happens very quickly and > >>>> it hangs on the Connecting to ......... I also have a problem where > >>>> the gui uo2date also seems to hang. It is as if messages are not > >>>> getting back to the OS. > >>>> > >>>>Could this be caused by my ethernet card configuration? > >>> > >>>everything is possible ... you r comments are very thin > >>> > >>>please post the return of (the real output) > >>> > >>>ifconfig > >>>netstat -rn > >>>cat /etc/resolv.conf > >>> > >>>so then things get clearer > >>> > >>>Jo?o > >>> > >>>>Thanks. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Scott > >>> > >>>- -- > >>>Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: > >>>GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc > >>> { DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F 6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } > >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>>Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > >>> > >>>iD8DBQFASWaUCmIEQLX9sjoRAimVAKCnZuXqXGyJSL75TKSMY2Fki4GHHQCfR6hV > >>>3C3mLJRn2G92nXO4TpOe+tc= > >>>=Izi4 > >>>-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > - -- > > Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: > > GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc > > { DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F 6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFASgxCCmIEQLX9sjoRAqV2AKCM2+Hfk+dP3v4qU1pm9kr7eZnlhACgij3O > > QKLPiuAyK57a4uBfat4PyYY= > > =1YpY > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - -- Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc ?{ DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F ?6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASyCsCmIEQLX9sjoRAjrHAJ9svDs0naKW4E35U7S38Z7R2gUHFgCfb9Uq tikjucuUckRcwxsNX7l6s/w= =t2BD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From apfaffeneder at zuhause-local.de Sun Mar 7 13:28:15 2004 From: apfaffeneder at zuhause-local.de (Andreas Pfaffeneder) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 14:28:15 +0100 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> References: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> Message-ID: <1078666095.1563.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Sa, den 06.03.2004 schrieb Scott DiNucci um 05:37: > Randy, > Thanks for the fast reply. I saw the thread and had modified the > /etc/modprobe.conf file and it did not fix the problem. If you watch the status > line in Mozilla the resolving host happens very quickly and it hangs on the Recently had the same problem with a friend?s soho-router, turned out to be ECN - please have a look at: http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=pan.2003.12.29.03.49.33.222567%40mail.com Andreas From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun Mar 7 13:23:02 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 08:23:02 -0500 Subject: up2date hangs at the "Testing package set/resolve RPM interdependencies" stage Message-ID: <1078665782.21714.200.camel@matrix> Hi, Since about 5:00 PM yesterday up2date has been stuck at the "Testing package set/resolve RPM interdependencies" stage. In the console window from which up2date was launched it reports: -- warning: waiting for transaction lock. Is "mirrors.kernel.org" down or to busy? Can someone recommend another mirror? By the way, there is another message that always appears when I run up2date, but I have ignored it with respect to update (maybe it is the cause, hmmm?). What does the following message mean: ? -- /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts : No such file or directory Thanks -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun Mar 7 13:52:00 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 08:52:00 -0500 Subject: Kernel update kills X In-Reply-To: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> References: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> Message-ID: <404B2900.60807@insight.rr.com> Peter Onion wrote: > I'm new to Fedora, so plese bare with me if I'm a bit behind with > stuff. (I normally run SuSE 9.0 but that's just too stable :-) > > Anyway.... > > I've installed FC2-test1 and updated up2date, and the kernel to > 2.6.3-2.1.240. However this has killed X. > > Hardware is a VIA MII-10000 (C3 Nehemiah core) with CLE-266 graphics, > but X is set to use the VESA driver. > > I've made the symbolic link changes to fix the mouse driver, and even > upgraded the XFree86 packages, but when X tries to start the machine > stops-dead. Power cycle needed to get it going again. > > All works OK with 2.6.1-1.65 from the install from the isos > > Peter > > In addition to making the /dev/mouse symlink point to /dev/input/mice you have to change the first instance within your /etc/X11/XF86Config file to point to the /dev/mouse symlink. Jim From Peter.Onion at btinternet.com Sun Mar 7 13:59:09 2004 From: Peter.Onion at btinternet.com (Peter Onion) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 13:59:09 +0000 Subject: Kernel update kills X In-Reply-To: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> References: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> Message-ID: <1078667948.2574.12.camel@Desktop.local> On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 13:16, Peter Onion wrote: > I'm new to Fedora, so plese bare with me if I'm a bit behind with > stuff. (I normally run SuSE 9.0 but that's just too stable :-) > > Anyway.... > > I've installed FC2-test1 and updated up2date, and the kernel to > 2.6.3-2.1.240. However this has killed X. I found mention of using the "nogui" option to grub http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg00427.html and this has atleast enabled me to get the system to boot. Peter > From Peter.Onion at btinternet.com Sun Mar 7 14:19:16 2004 From: Peter.Onion at btinternet.com (Peter Onion) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 14:19:16 +0000 Subject: Kernel update kills X In-Reply-To: <404B2900.60807@insight.rr.com> References: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> <404B2900.60807@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1078669155.2574.14.camel@Desktop.local> On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 13:52, Jim Cornette wrote: > In addition to making the /dev/mouse symlink point to /dev/input/mice > you have to change the first instance within your /etc/X11/XF86Config > file to point to the /dev/mouse symlink. > > Jim > I should have said I had done that as well ! Peter From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 7 14:42:15 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:42:15 -0500 Subject: Laptop Dock Station Resolutions In-Reply-To: <404A9086.5090600@warcry.com> References: <404A9086.5090600@warcry.com> Message-ID: <20040307144215.GA31299@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 09:01:26PM -0600, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: > One of the greater fustrations with our laptops at work using Linux is > the innability for us to have our resolution go up when plugging it into > the docking station.. Would that be a feature RedHat could build such > as a daemon that would restart X with a secondary config for the > connected monitor? Or would that be in the realm of whatever X server > we jump to if we jump to anything? How does the docking station appear on such systems - as another video card or as the same screen as the LCD ? From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun Mar 7 14:43:30 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 09:43:30 -0500 Subject: Kernel update kills X In-Reply-To: <1078669155.2574.14.camel@Desktop.local> References: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> <404B2900.60807@insight.rr.com> <1078669155.2574.14.camel@Desktop.local> Message-ID: <404B3512.1010503@insight.rr.com> Peter Onion wrote: > On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 13:52, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>In addition to making the /dev/mouse symlink point to /dev/input/mice >>you have to change the first instance within your /etc/X11/XF86Config >>file to point to the /dev/mouse symlink. >> >>Jim >> > > > I should have said I had done that as well ! > > Peter > > I was lazy and just changed the instance of /dev/psaux to point to /dev/input/mice and didn't worry about the symlink to /dev/mouse. This worked as well. There was also mention about changing an entry in /etc/sysconfig/gpm to /dev/mouse and I chaged it to point to /dev/input/mice as well. At first attempt, I put mouse in the entry, instead of mice. I realized later that I did this and corrected the entry to the plural. If your mouse entries are correct, it might be something other than a pointer device, maybe your problem is related to the display driver or something. Jim From steve at rueb.com Sun Mar 7 14:56:13 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 08:56:13 -0600 Subject: Kernel update kills X In-Reply-To: <1078669155.2574.14.camel@Desktop.local> References: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> <404B2900.60807@insight.rr.com> <1078669155.2574.14.camel@Desktop.local> Message-ID: <404B380D.5080501@rueb.com> Peter Onion wrote: >I should have said I had done that as well ! > > > So what does /var/log/Xfree86.0.log say? Any (EE) lines? -Steve From bcs at metacon.ca Sun Mar 7 15:08:30 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 11:08:30 -0400 Subject: Laptop Dock Station Resolutions In-Reply-To: <404A9086.5090600@warcry.com> References: <404A9086.5090600@warcry.com> Message-ID: <1078667579.25804.8.camel@ripley> On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 23:01, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: > One of the greater fustrations with our laptops at work using Linux is > the innability for us to have our resolution go up when plugging it into > the docking station.. Would that be a feature RedHat could build such > as a daemon that would restart X with a secondary config for the > connected monitor? Or would that be in the realm of whatever X server > we jump to if we jump to anything? xrandr works for me (to go the other way -- my monitor can't do the 1400x1050 of my laptop :-) Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From Peter.Onion at btinternet.com Sun Mar 7 15:10:04 2004 From: Peter.Onion at btinternet.com (Peter Onion) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 15:10:04 +0000 Subject: Kernel update kills X In-Reply-To: <404B380D.5080501@rueb.com> References: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> <404B2900.60807@insight.rr.com> <1078669155.2574.14.camel@Desktop.local> <404B380D.5080501@rueb.com> Message-ID: <1078672203.2574.17.camel@Desktop.local> On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 14:56, Steve Bergman wrote: > Peter Onion wrote: > > >I should have said I had done that as well ! > > > > > > > So what does /var/log/Xfree86.0.log say? Any (EE) lines? > > -Steve > Well it's working now (see earlier post about "nogui" option on grub config. I'm just running up2date so it will be broken again soon :-) Peter From steve at rueb.com Sun Mar 7 15:36:59 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 09:36:59 -0600 Subject: Kernel update kills X In-Reply-To: <1078672203.2574.17.camel@Desktop.local> References: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> <404B2900.60807@insight.rr.com> <1078669155.2574.14.camel@Desktop.local> <404B380D.5080501@rueb.com> <1078672203.2574.17.camel@Desktop.local> Message-ID: <404B419B.8070007@rueb.com> Peter Onion wrote: > I'm just running up2date so it will be broken again soon :-) > That's good to hear! ;-) -Steve From mattwhiting at ntlworld.com Sun Mar 7 15:54:06 2004 From: mattwhiting at ntlworld.com (Matt Whiting) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 15:54:06 +0000 Subject: Install Problem (system reboot) Message-ID: > read the release notes. test1 won't work on anything < 686 > due to a screw up on our part. This was unintentional, and will > be fixed in test2. I too got caught by this one. In the meantime (for the impatient, like myself), is there a way to run the installer from the ISO under Fedora 1? From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Mar 7 16:26:11 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:26:11 +0000 Subject: CD writing - getting odder and odder! Message-ID: <1078676771.3953.2.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I've created an ISO image in k3b. If I attempt to burn directly, I get a mkisofs error. I can also not burn the ISO using k3b. If I swap over to xcdrecord I can burn the iso happily, but again cannot burn from the raw sources (same mkisofs error) What on earth is going on? TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at warmcat.com Sun Mar 7 16:36:49 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 16:36:49 +0000 Subject: CD writing - getting odder and odder! In-Reply-To: <1078676771.3953.2.camel@T7.linux> References: <1078676771.3953.2.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <200403071636.49654.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 07 March 2004 16:26, Paul wrote: > I get a mkisofs error. What does the error have to tell us? - -Andy - -- Find your answer without waiting for replies.... Searchable list archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAS0+hjKeDCxMJCTIRAoiqAJ4pU8qZKIK47btFJbRvHD6j1qqaSgCfTZuX 7mCLcOcCQXceP/0dU2y61+A= =ptXQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pp at ee.oulu.fi Sun Mar 7 16:45:22 2004 From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:45:22 +0200 Subject: Kernel update kills X In-Reply-To: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> References: <1078665416.3018.8.camel@Desktop.local> Message-ID: <20040307164522.GA5336@ee.oulu.fi> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 01:16:56PM +0000, Peter Onion wrote: > I've installed FC2-test1 and updated up2date, and the kernel to > 2.6.3-2.1.240. However this has killed X. > > Hardware is a VIA MII-10000 (C3 Nehemiah core) with CLE-266 graphics, > but X is set to use the VESA driver. VESA never worked that well for me, but there is a native VIA driver that works pretty well included in later XFree86 packages that works quite well with 2.6.3-2.1.238 (minor issues with Xv, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116027 has the details and a workaround) You'll have to edit XF86Config manually to use it, system-config-display doesn't know about it yet. -- Pekka Pietikainen From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Mar 7 16:58:42 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:58:42 +0000 Subject: CD writing - getting odder and odder! In-Reply-To: <200403071636.49654.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1078676771.3953.2.camel@T7.linux> <200403071636.49654.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1078678721.3953.11.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > I get a mkisofs error. > > What does the error have to tell us? It just says mkisofs ----------------------- Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660. 358653 Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660. Using Norah Jones - Come Away 000.mp3 for Norah Jones/Norah Jones - Come Away With Me.mp3 (Norah Jones - Come Away With Me (complete album). mp3) Using frankie goes to hollywoo000.mp3 for Songs/frankie goes to hollywood - two tribes-relax (megamix).mp3 (frankie goes to hollywood - Relax (Don't Do It).mp3) /usr/bin/mkisofs: Resource temporarily unavailable. cannot fwrite 2048*1 (from the k3b debugging output) Not sure what that actually means! TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, once I got to the point where 2.6.3 would boot I tried the via driver. I'm lots of experience with manually editing XF86config :-( On my SuSE box I have a "customised" version of the via driver to produce the appropriate refresh rates to make my monitor recognise 1280x768. Peter. From rpjday at mindspring.com Sun Mar 7 17:13:26 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 12:13:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: what's the status of encrypted filesystems? Message-ID: as i don't have a FC2-t1 system in front of me, what's the status of encrypted filesystems? are they/will they be ready to go out of the box? rday From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 7 17:29:48 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:29:48 -0500 Subject: Problems with Yum and cifs + Evolution Q In-Reply-To: <404B0C93.9090208@clara.co.uk> References: <404B0C93.9090208@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <1078680588.5010.0.camel@binkley> > [root at nemesis bart]# yum check-update > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? > import yummain > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 31, in ? > import yumcomps > File "/usr/share/yum/yumcomps.py", line 4, in ? > import comps > File "/usr/share/yum/comps.py", line 5, in ? > import libxml2 > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? > ImportError: No module named libxml2mod update you version of libxml2-python. -sv From aoliva at redhat.com Sun Mar 7 17:56:10 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 07 Mar 2004 14:56:10 -0300 Subject: Multiple Installed Packeages In-Reply-To: <1077714448.31314.18.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <1077714448.31314.18.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: On Feb 25, 2004, Bob Chiodini wrote: > I found that I have two > versions of quite a few packages installed. > Is there a way to clean this up? Try http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/rpmdup-reinstall/ -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From zgobolos at 777westel.hu Sun Mar 7 18:23:51 2004 From: zgobolos at 777westel.hu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6b=F6l=F6s_Zolt=E1n?=) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 19:23:51 +0100 Subject: need help In-Reply-To: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1078683830.5566.11.camel@abulafia> Hi! This notebook is originally a Clevo D470V/D480V: http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/D470V.asp Try to find other's stories about installing distros. Unfortunately I can't help you, because I have a Clevo D470W which is fully supported by Fedora. -- Zoltan From bartk at clara.co.uk Sun Mar 7 20:08:59 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:08:59 +0000 Subject: Problems with Yum and cifs + Evolution Q In-Reply-To: <1078680588.5010.0.camel@binkley> References: <404B0C93.9090208@clara.co.uk> <1078680588.5010.0.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <404B815B.1080103@clara.co.uk> seth vidal wrote: >>[root at nemesis bart]# yum check-update >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? >> import yummain >> File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 31, in ? >> import yumcomps >> File "/usr/share/yum/yumcomps.py", line 4, in ? >> import comps >> File "/usr/share/yum/comps.py", line 5, in ? >> import libxml2 >> File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libxml2.py", line 1, in ? >>ImportError: No module named libxml2mod >> >> > >update you version of libxml2-python. > >-sv > > > Done, its working again now. Thank you -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Mar 7 21:03:06 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 21:03:06 +0000 Subject: Mono on yum? Message-ID: <1078693386.4124.0.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Anyone know if there is a yum repository for mono and if there is, what the settings I need to stick in /etc/yum.conf are? TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From bhartman24 at comcast.net Sun Mar 7 22:08:26 2004 From: bhartman24 at comcast.net (Brian Hartman) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:08:26 -0500 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <404B9BDD.8000909@optonline.net> References: <404B9BDD.8000909@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1078697304.9843.12.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can do an upgrade via yum by pointing to the development RPMs at the download site via yum.conf Regards, Brian On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 17:02 -0500, Edward A Jupin wrote: > Could I do an upgrade, or do I definately have to do a clean install? > Thanks! > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ejupin at optonline.net Sun Mar 7 22:13:25 2004 From: ejupin at optonline.net (Edward A Jupin) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:13:25 -0500 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 Message-ID: <404B9E85.5070403@optonline.net> I have the iso's burned, just wondering if i could just upgrade instead of a clean install... From georg at georgs.org Sun Mar 7 22:15:00 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:15:00 +0100 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <404B9BDD.8000909@optonline.net> References: <404B9BDD.8000909@optonline.net> Message-ID: <404B9EE4.8010409@georgs.org> Edward A Jupin schrieb: > Could I do an upgrade, or do I definately have to do a clean install? > Thanks! > What's a clean install from a *stable* version to a *test* version ? by me it worked not well (problems with the usb-devices caused of the kernel and the module-init-tools/modutils) greetings Georg E Schneider From ejupin at optonline.net Sun Mar 7 22:15:44 2004 From: ejupin at optonline.net (Edward A Jupin) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:15:44 -0500 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <404B9EE4.8010409@georgs.org> References: <404B9BDD.8000909@optonline.net> <404B9EE4.8010409@georgs.org> Message-ID: <404B9F10.7050601@optonline.net> Georg E Schneider wrote: > Edward A Jupin schrieb: > >> Could I do an upgrade, or do I definately have to do a clean install? >> Thanks! >> > What's a clean install from a *stable* version to a *test* version ? > by me it worked not well > (problems with the usb-devices caused of the kernel and the > module-init-tools/modutils) > > greetings > Georg E Schneider > > ok, thanks. I have done it before, but i know what you mean... i just like to experiment. From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 22:32:25 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 14:32:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <404B9F10.7050601@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20040307223225.90118.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- > ok, thanks. > I have done it before, but i know what you mean... i just like to > experiment. i upgraded from Core 1 to Core 2 test1 using the ISO images. worked fine for me. after installing, i had to add the /etc/modprobe.conf entries for USB but otherwise things worked jsut as intended. hope this helps... mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From ejupin at optonline.net Sun Mar 7 22:48:40 2004 From: ejupin at optonline.net (Edward A Jupin) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:48:40 -0500 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040307223225.90118.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040307223225.90118.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <404BA6C8.9060902@optonline.net> Mark Fonnemann wrote: >Hello- > > > >>ok, thanks. >>I have done it before, but i know what you mean... i just like to >>experiment. >> >> > >i upgraded from Core 1 to Core 2 test1 using the ISO images. worked fine for >me. after installing, i had to add the /etc/modprobe.conf entries for USB but >otherwise things worked jsut as intended. hope this helps... > >mark. > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster >http://search.yahoo.com > > > > Did sound work for you? I hear there are issues... Thanks From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 22:59:11 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 14:59:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <404BA6C8.9060902@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20040307225911.76875.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Edward- > Mark Fonnemann wrote: > >i upgraded from Core 1 to Core 2 test1 using the ISO images. worked fine for > >me. after installing, i had to add the /etc/modprobe.conf entries for USB > but > >otherwise things worked jsut as intended. hope this helps... > > > >mark. > --- Edward A Jupin wrote: > > > Did sound work for you? I hear there are issues... > Thanks i haven't been able to get sound to work, but i have an ISA card. this might have something to do with it. using FC1, i had to use sndconfig to configure the card. i installed alsa-lib 1.3 from sources and that worked. i then tried installing alsa-utils from sources but one of the components would not compile: make[1]: Entering directory `/root/alsa/alsa-utils-1.0.3/alsamixer' if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -g -O2 -MT alsamixer.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/alsamixer.Tpo" \ -c -o alsamixer.o `test -f 'alsamixer.c' || echo './'`alsamixer.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/alsamixer.Tpo" ".deps/alsamixer.Po"; \ else rm -f ".deps/alsamixer.Tpo"; exit 1; \ fi alsamixer.c:119:21: ncurses.h: No such file or directory alsamixer.c:176: error: syntax error before '*' token alsamixer.c:176: warning: data definition has no type or storage class alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_init_draw_contexts': alsamixer.c:328: error: `COLOR_WHITE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:328: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once alsamixer.c:328: error: for each function it appears in.) alsamixer.c:328: error: `A_BOLD' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:328: error: `COLOR_BLACK' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:328: error: `A_NORMAL' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:329: error: `COLOR_YELLOW' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:330: error: `COLOR_CYAN' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:332: error: `ACS_HLINE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:333: error: `COLOR_RED' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:335: error: `A_DIM' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:336: error: `COLOR_BLUE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:336: error: `A_REVERSE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:339: error: `ACS_CKBOARD' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:340: error: `COLOR_GREEN' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_clear': alsamixer.c:379: error: `TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_abort': alsamixer.c:396: error: `TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:398: error: `FALSE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_cbar_get_pos': alsamixer.c:448: error: `FALSE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:466: error: `TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_update_cbar': alsamixer.c:859: error: `ACS_LLCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:860: error: `ACS_HLINE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:862: error: `ACS_LRCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:867: error: `ACS_VLINE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:891: error: `ACS_ULCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:901: error: `ACS_URCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_draw_frame': alsamixer.c:1022: error: `ACS_VLINE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1027: error: `ACS_HLINE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1034: error: `ACS_ULCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1035: error: `ACS_URCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1036: error: `ACS_LLCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1038: error: `ACS_LRCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_show_text': alsamixer.c:1208: error: `ACS_LRCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1209: error: `ACS_LLCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1210: error: `ACS_ULCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1211: error: `ACS_URCORNER' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1216: error: `ACS_VLINE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1218: error: `ACS_HLINE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1235: error: `ACS_CKBOARD' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1236: error: `ACS_BLOCK' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1237: error: `ACS_BOARD' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_init_window': alsamixer.c:1586: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast alsamixer.c:1599: error: `TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_resize': alsamixer.c:1636: error: `FALSE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_iteration': alsamixer.c:1766: error: `FALSE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1772: error: case label does not reduce to an integer constant alsamixer.c:1777: error: case label does not reduce to an integer constant alsamixer.c:1784: error: `TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1795: error: `KEY_BTAB' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1798: error: `KEY_A1' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1802: error: `KEY_A3' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1806: error: `KEY_C1' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1810: error: `KEY_C3' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1814: error: `KEY_RIGHT' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1818: error: `KEY_LEFT' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1822: error: `KEY_UP' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1827: error: `KEY_DOWN' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1832: error: `KEY_PPAGE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1837: error: `KEY_NPAGE' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1841: error: `KEY_BEG' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1842: error: `KEY_HOME' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1845: error: `KEY_LL' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1846: error: `KEY_END' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1938: error: `KEY_IC' undeclared (first use in this function) alsamixer.c:1943: error: `KEY_DC' undeclared (first use in this function) make[1]: *** [alsamixer.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa/alsa-utils-1.0.3/alsamixer' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 therefore, i was unable to use the alsa-conf utility to configure sound. and, for some reason (unknownst to me), alsa-utils-1.0.2-2.rpm doesnt seem to include that utility. well, hope you have better luck than I with sound so far... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From linuxnow at newtral.org Sun Mar 7 23:13:27 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:13:27 +0100 (CET) Subject: x86_64 Branch of the 1.90 Tree In-Reply-To: References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Elliot Lee wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 lewt at warcry.com wrote: > > > I'm looking to test FC2T1 under the x86_64 platform. However I can only > > find i386 iso's available.. Has anyone made iso's for x86_64 yet? or does > > anyone know how or where to find out how to net install > > The development tree (formerly known as rawhide) should always be > net-installable for all archs that have a kernel and installer (currently, > x86 and x86-64). I've been able to update from FC1-test1 x86_64 to development and i've even started up X using http://www.linuxtx.org/XF86Config. The xdm login screen appears perfectly. But when I login, before any icon appears in the Fedora splash, the machin freezes completely and I have to reboot holding the power button for a few seconds. Any hints of what could be happening? My machine is an Acer Aspire 1500 with an ATI Radeon Mobility 9600. Pau From dr at cluenet.de Mon Mar 8 00:00:07 2004 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 01:00:07 +0100 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <404A3042.9050901@comcast.net>; from randysch@comcast.net on Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 03:10:42PM -0500 References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> <404A3042.9050901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040308010007.A27801@homebase.cluenet.de> On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 03:10:42PM -0500, Randy Schrickel wrote: > Here's the output from a dnslookup, ifconfig, and 'netstat -rn' on my > box, with just IPV4 configured followed by the IPV6 results (as setup by > the Fedora install): Who is doing the DNS lookup? > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:03:C1:D1:BE > inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::201:3ff:fec1:d1be/64 Scope:Link As you can see, IPv6 is enabled in the kernel. Otherwise you would have no inet6 link-local addr. Please show "ip addr show dev eth0" to make sure we have all the info. > Kernel IP routing table With "netstat -rn" you look up only IPv4 routes. Use "netstat -A inet6 -rn" or (much better): "ip -6 route". > And here's the IPV6 version: > 0.000000 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query AAAA > www.google.com 68.54.80.5 is being asked for AAAA RR but gives no reply. Retry: > 5.000097 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query AAAA > www.google.com > 5.010537 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response > CNAME www.g > oogle.akadns.net Now it answers with the CNAME. I'm seeing the same effect from here: ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> www.google.com AAAA [...] ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.google.com. 3600 IN CNAME www.google.akadns.net. [...] ;; Query time: 4727 msec Why the resolver doesn't do an AAAA query for www.google.akadns.net. consequently, is beyond me. Looks like a bug. Instead of following the CNAME, it asks for an A RR: > 5.010918 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query A > www.google.com > 5.024892 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response > CNAME www.g > oogle.akadns.net A 216.239.39.104 A 216.239.39.99 A 216.239.39.147 There, Akamai's DNS servers answer directly with A RRs for the CNAME. > 5.025460 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query PTR > 104.39.239.216.in-addr.arpa > 10.025349 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query PTR > 104.39.239.216.in-addr.arpa > 10.039552 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response, > No such name Interesting. Same "no response to first query" problem on a simple PTR query. Nothing IPv6 specific here. > 10.039963 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query AAAA > www.google.com > 10.050470 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response > CNAME www.g > oogle.akadns.net This one goes quickly... 68.54.80.5 has the answer cached. > (that was from loading http://www.google.com Note the AAAA responses) There are ne AAAA responses, but only a CNAME. Actually, I see nothing going wrong IPv6-specific. There are two pretty normal IPv4 DNS queries not being answered - one of them even asking for a normal PTR RR, not even AAAA. This will be probably tricky to debug properly. Are those two different installations? Or how do you toggle "IPv6 enabled" (whatever that actually means - as both systems are obviously IPv6 enabled per se). IPv6 transport is not involved, but pls show "ip -6 route" anyway. > If there's something else in the config that's needed, without shutting > off ipv6, that'd be fine. I just wanted to get my net connection working > the way it should, and turning ipv6 off did the trick. .Any other tests > or suggestions? Currently, it looks like 68.54.80.5 or your network's NAT is misbehaving somehow. What kind of device is doing the NAT? Best regards, Daniel From biped at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 00:37:35 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 19:37:35 -0500 Subject: usb.agent error during startup Message-ID: <404BC04F.6060906@comcast.net> During startup /etc/hotplug/usb.agent fails in line 144, apparently because $DEVPATH is not defined (cat $SYSFS/$DEVPATH/bNumConfigurations expands to cat /sysfs//bNumConfigurations -> file not found) What am I missing here? ::Marcus From bhartman24 at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 00:37:50 2004 From: bhartman24 at comcast.net (Brian Hartman) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 19:37:50 -0500 Subject: Mounting CDs Message-ID: <1078706269.9843.17.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> Hi, Everyone. I've got what I hope is a simple question. I can't seem to get my CD- ROMs mounted. If I type: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom I'm presented with this error: mount: block device /dev/cdrom1 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom1, or too many mounted file systems I've never seen this before, and I've been running Fedora for awhile. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Brian From fedora at andrewfarris.com Mon Mar 8 00:43:10 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:43:10 -0800 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <404B9E85.5070403@optonline.net> References: <404B9E85.5070403@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1078706589.13362.2.camel@CirithUngol> On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 17:13 -0500, Edward A Jupin wrote: > I have the iso's burned, just wondering if i could just upgrade instead > of a clean install... Yes you can, but like doing a fresh install there will be some issues to work through; they might be different issues from doing a fresh install. Its important to remember tho, if you're going to be reporting bugs to note your upgrade path could have caused them. If you're just playing with the new cool stuff, then by all means try the upgrade first, you can always reformat for fresh install. -- Andrew J Farris afarris at calpoly.edu :: andrew at andrewfarris.com California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo CA http://www.andrewfarris.com/ From ejupin at optonline.net Mon Mar 8 00:46:27 2004 From: ejupin at optonline.net (Edward A Jupin) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 19:46:27 -0500 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <1078706589.13362.2.camel@CirithUngol> References: <404B9E85.5070403@optonline.net> <1078706589.13362.2.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <404BC263.9030400@optonline.net> Andrew Farris wrote: >On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 17:13 -0500, Edward A Jupin wrote: > > > >>I have the iso's burned, just wondering if i could just upgrade instead >>of a clean install... >> >> >Yes you can, but like doing a fresh install there will be some issues to >work through; they might be different issues from doing a fresh install. >Its important to remember tho, if you're going to be reporting bugs to >note your upgrade path could have caused them. If you're just playing >with the new cool stuff, then by all means try the upgrade first, you >can always reformat for fresh install. > > > Thanks for all the opinions! I guess my biggest concern is the sound issue, I can't live without sound! From aboyce at conduit-it.com Mon Mar 8 00:55:15 2004 From: aboyce at conduit-it.com (Andrew Boyce-Lewis) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 19:55:15 -0500 Subject: Mounting CDs In-Reply-To: <1078706269.9843.17.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> References: <1078706269.9843.17.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1078707315.29873.2.camel@blt> Are there two cdrom drives in this system? In the mount args, you specify /dev/cdrom but the error references /dev/cdrom1, you might start by looking into that. -Andrew > Hi, Everyone. > > I've got what I hope is a simple question. I can't seem to get my CD- > ROMs mounted. If I type: > > mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom > > I'm presented with this error: > > mount: block device /dev/cdrom1 is write-protected, mounting read-only > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom1, > or too many mounted file systems > > I've never seen this before, and I've been running Fedora for awhile. > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards, > > Brian > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bhartman24 at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 01:42:57 2004 From: bhartman24 at comcast.net (Brian Hartman) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:42:57 -0500 Subject: Mounting CDs In-Reply-To: <1078707315.29873.2.camel@blt> References: <1078706269.9843.17.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> <1078707315.29873.2.camel@blt> Message-ID: <1078710176.9843.21.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> Hi, Andrew. Actually, I have two CD-ROMs on the system, but I copied the wrong error message into my e-mail. That error applies both to /mnt/cdrom and /mnt/ cdrom1. What I was trying to do was to use the Nautilus CD burning facility to copy tracks from one CD and burn them on to another. I put the disc in, and I could hear the drive spinning as if it was mounted, but I couldn't access anything, and I kept getting that error. I hope that makes sense now. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Brian On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 19:55 -0500, Andrew Boyce-Lewis wrote: > Are there two cdrom drives in this system? > > In the mount args, you specify /dev/cdrom but the error references > /dev/cdrom1, you might start by looking into that. > > -Andrew > > > Hi, Everyone. > > > > I've got what I hope is a simple question. I can't seem to get my CD- > > ROMs mounted. If I type: > > > > mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom > > > > I'm presented with this error: > > > > mount: block device /dev/cdrom1 is write-protected, mounting read-only > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom1, > > or too many mounted file systems > > > > I've never seen this before, and I've been running Fedora for awhile. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > Brian > > From jkt at redhat.com Mon Mar 8 02:08:14 2004 From: jkt at redhat.com (Jay Turner) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 21:08:14 -0500 Subject: Mounting CDs In-Reply-To: <1078706269.9843.17.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> References: <1078706269.9843.17.camel@pcp04278269pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040308020814.GB12210@redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 07:37:50PM -0500, Brian Hartman wrote: > Hi, Everyone. > > I've got what I hope is a simple question. I can't seem to get my CD- > ROMs mounted. If I type: > > mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom > > I'm presented with this error: > > mount: block device /dev/cdrom1 is write-protected, mounting read-only > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom1, > or too many mounted file systems There's a chance that the filesystem on the disc you're trying to mount isn't iso9660. You might want to just try mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom and let the system attempt to determine for itself what the filesystem on the disc is. And as someone else pointed out, you should check to ensure that the device you're attempting to mount is indeed "/dev/cdrom" One of the easiest ways to do this is to run "eject /dev/cdrom" and see what drive pops out. - jkt -- --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--* Jay Turner, QA Technical Lead jkt at redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. - Albert Einstein From mike at netlyncs.com Mon Mar 8 02:19:16 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:19:16 -0600 Subject: Test email Message-ID: <1078712355.2561.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> No emails going out did some working on the network, so making sure nothing is broken. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From biped at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 03:12:44 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 22:12:44 -0500 Subject: usb.agent error during startup In-Reply-To: <404BC04F.6060906@comcast.net> References: <404BC04F.6060906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <404BE4AC.5090000@comcast.net> Marcus Schuetz wrote: > During startup /etc/hotplug/usb.agent fails in line 144, apparently > because $DEVPATH is not defined (cat $SYSFS/$DEVPATH/bNumConfigurations > expands to cat /sysfs//bNumConfigurations -> file not found) > > What am I missing here? > > ::Marcus > > I was wrong (unfortunately not a singular event): $DEVPATH is defined, so it's /sys/class/usb/lp0/bNumConfigurations but bNumConfigurations just isn't there :: Marcus From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 8 03:14:18 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 19:14:18 -0800 Subject: evolution -- Unresolvable chain of dependencies Message-ID: <20040308031418.GB29808@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Does evolution need to be rebuilt? Is 'rawhide' missing a package? Or is it the operator, me? I did clean out some 'orphans' (up2date --show-orphans) recently. # up2date evolution http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide using mirror: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... Fetching rpm headers... ######################################## Name Version Rel ---------------------------------------------------------- evolution 1.4.5 7 i386 Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgal-2.0.so.5 evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgal-a11y-2.0.so.5 evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgtkhtml-3.0.so.2 evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgtkhtml-a11y-3.0.so.2 evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libsoup-2.0.so.0 Thanks, mitch -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From lewt at warcry.com Mon Mar 8 03:17:49 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 21:17:49 -0600 Subject: Laptop Dock Station Resolutions In-Reply-To: <20040307144215.GA31299@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <404A9086.5090600@warcry.com> <20040307144215.GA31299@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <404BE5DD.3080301@warcry.com> Alan Cox wrote: >On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 09:01:26PM -0600, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: > > >>One of the greater fustrations with our laptops at work using Linux is >>the innability for us to have our resolution go up when plugging it into >>the docking station.. Would that be a feature RedHat could build such >>as a daemon that would restart X with a secondary config for the >>connected monitor? Or would that be in the realm of whatever X server >>we jump to if we jump to anything? >> >> > >How does the docking station appear on such systems - as another video card or >as the same screen as the LCD ? > > > > IIRC the docking station itself appears as extra ports, drives and such. The Video (If your pc has a VGA out on the back) depending on the docking station just gets rerouted to a port on the back.. On my HP Ze4430us the vga out appears as a secondary PCI video card.. in windows it's just like having a dual head card.. with seperate resolutions.. 1024x768 on the LCD and 1280x1024 on the external LCD.. Now in a FC1 I've had it use a external monitor but couldnt get it to do dual resolutions unfortunately.. and if you rebooted the external monitor would go brownwhite and then slowly darken (Scared the hell out of me) so I quit messing with it. From markf78 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 8 03:24:35 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 19:24:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: evolution -- Unresolvable chain of dependencies In-Reply-To: <20040308031418.GB29808@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <20040308032435.13675.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Everyone- > Name Version Rel > ---------------------------------------------------------- > evolution 1.4.5 7 i386 > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgal-2.0.so.5 > evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgal-a11y-2.0.so.5 > evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgtkhtml-3.0.so.2 > evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgtkhtml-a11y-3.0.so.2 i'm getting the same error when trying to update Balsa to version 2.0.16-2. thanks... mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From pbender at qualcomm.com Mon Mar 8 03:42:51 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 19:42:51 -0800 Subject: evolution -- Unresolvable chain of dependencies In-Reply-To: <20040308031418.GB29808@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <20040308031418.GB29808@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <404BEBBB.3070204@qualcomm.com> Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell wrote: > Does evolution need to be rebuilt? > Is 'rawhide' missing a package? > > Or is it the operator, me? > I did clean out some 'orphans' (up2date --show-orphans) recently. > > # up2date evolution > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > using mirror: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > > Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... > > Fetching rpm headers... > ######################################## > > Name Version Rel > ---------------------------------------------------------- > evolution 1.4.5 7 i386 > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgal-2.0.so.5 > evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgal-a11y-2.0.so.5 > evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgtkhtml-3.0.so.2 > evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgtkhtml-a11y-3.0.so.2 > evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libsoup-2.0.so.0 When evolution was downgraded from 1.5 to 1.4, the libgal2, gtkhtml3 and libsoup packgakes were also downgraded. It is likely that you have the newer versions of these packages installed. You need to downgrade these packages. You can do this by downloading the packages and installing them using "rpm --upgrade --oldpackage". From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 8 04:20:23 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 20:20:23 -0800 Subject: Test email -- there is a better way. In-Reply-To: <1078712355.2561.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1078712355.2561.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <20040308042023.GC29808@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:19:16PM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > No emails going out did some working on the network, so making sure > nothing is broken. Test messages to large lists are silly... Here are some better ways! Sign up for a 'free' yahoo/netscape/whatever account and test by sending to and from it. Sure, use a local throw-away-dynamic alias/account when applying for the free account in case spam happens. Try sending mail to some impossible user address at a real box (owned and managed by a friend) instead. You will get one bounce. Read the headers and you can discover if you got out. You can also ask a friend to setup a courtesy account on another box in another domain. Perhaps with a .forward line that reflects mail back. Return the favor. Having an external account can be VERY important if you have trouble with your domain and need to communicate with the administrators at say mydyndns.org. "Mail -v someuser at someplace.outthere" is your friend when debugging mail locally. Ximian Evolution is harder to use when debugging mail. Use and bookmark a sendmail sanity test site like this: http://www.abuse.net/relay.html There are other things to test but 'open relay' is the first to check. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From ehoover at mines.edu Mon Mar 8 05:02:56 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (Erich Hoover) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 22:02:56 -0700 Subject: gnome-sound-properties doesn't appear to have a way to turn a sound off Message-ID: <404BFE80.1030207@mines.edu> If I clear out the filename for a sound it just reverts back to the original sound file specified, is there a way to turn particular sounds off (sounds for everything are rather annoying)? From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 8 05:07:11 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 21:07:11 -0800 Subject: evolution -- Unresolvable chain of dependencies In-Reply-To: <404BEBBB.3070204@qualcomm.com> References: <20040308031418.GB29808@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <404BEBBB.3070204@qualcomm.com> Message-ID: <20040308050711.GD29808@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 07:42:51PM -0800, Paul Bender wrote: .... > ># up2date evolution .... > >Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > >There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > > >Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > >evolution 1.4.5-7 requires libgal-2.0.so.5 .... > When evolution was downgraded from 1.5 to 1.4, the libgal2, gtkhtml3 and > libsoup packgakes were also downgraded. It is likely that you have the > newer versions of these packages installed. You need to downgrade these > packages. You can do this by downloading the packages and installing > them using "rpm --upgrade --oldpackage". > Thank you Paul. Looks like this was it..... Below is what I did for the back seat drivers out there. Note that I did use a bigger hammer than might be necessary on libgal2 gtkhtml3 libsoup. Thanks, mitch === FYI stuff == below. # rpm -e libgal2 gtkhtml3 libsoup # up2date evolution http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide using mirror: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... Fetching rpm headers... ######################################## Name Version Rel ---------------------------------------------------------- evolution 1.4.5 7 i386 Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory ######################################## evolution-1.4.5-7.i386.rpm: ########################## Done. gtkhtml3-3.0.9-5.i386.rpm: ########################## Done. libgal2-1.99.10-2.i386.rpm: ########################## Done. libsoup-1.99.26-3.i386.rpm: ########################## Done. /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory Preparing ########################################### [100%] Installing... 1:libgal2 ########################################### [100%] 2:gtkhtml3 ########################################### [100%] 3:libsoup ########################################### [100%] 4:evolution ########################################### [100%] The following packages were added to your selection to satisfy dependencies: Name Version Release -------------------------------------------------------------- gtkhtml3 3.0.9 5 libgal2 1.99.10 2 libsoup 1.99.26 3 -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From michal at harddata.com Mon Mar 8 06:06:59 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 23:06:59 -0700 Subject: gnome-sound-properties doesn't appear to have a way to turn a sound off In-Reply-To: <404BFE80.1030207@mines.edu>; from ehoover@mines.edu on Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 10:02:56PM -0700 References: <404BFE80.1030207@mines.edu> Message-ID: <20040307230659.B16104@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 10:02:56PM -0700, Erich Hoover wrote: > If I clear out the filename for a sound it just reverts back to the > original sound file specified, is there a way to turn particular sounds > off (sounds for everything are rather annoying)? One simple way to get around that would be to produce a file with a "sound of silence" and play it when desired. Could be of some minimal length. Is a sound file of that sort already available? If not then write RFE. Michal From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Mon Mar 8 07:45:35 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 08:45:35 +0100 Subject: no /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts Message-ID: <404C249F.2060609@filmakademie.de> Hi, I installed for tests Fedora Core 2 Test 1 on a Dell Poweredge 1650 SMP Server. I Tried to install the latest dev-kernel (kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.242.i686.rpm) and get the following message: /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts Whats wrong? Missing? ... Thanks for hints. regards G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 8 08:20:24 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:20:24 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv Message-ID: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> hi, am i the only one who is completely unsatisfied with tvtime ? with xawtv i am satisfied as i was it in the last years ( RHLx / FC1 ) sure xawtv has some bugs, but ... xawtv: http://bytesex.org/xawtv/ - better image quality ( with an digital-sat-receiver via scart-svideo-cabel ) - 'export DISPLAY=remotehost:0; xawtv' works here without problems because i have several workstations it is a nice feature to export xawtv to the other workstations. tvtime: - really bad image quality in directly comparison with xawtv https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117651 - 'export DISPLAY' or 'tvtime --display=remotehost:0' is not working unfortunately it looks like tvtime should replace xawtv in fc2 in my eyes is it a step backwards and not forwards :-( tv-history afair in RHL7.x -> FCx : gtv -> xawtv -> tvtime -- shrek-m From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Mon Mar 8 08:28:48 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:28:48 +0100 Subject: USB Mouse and Toshiba SP2100 Message-ID: <404C2EC0.5000100@filmakademie.de> Hi, I upgraded my working fedora core 1 Notebook (Toshiba Satellite Pro 2100) to core 2 test 1. After that, my external usb-mouse is not working any more :-( the pointer jumps around and copy/pastes and selects anything. I looked at my XF86Config, but did'nt find anything that is off use too me :-(; I changed one "Device" from /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice. Any tips? regards G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 8 08:36:21 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:36:21 +0100 Subject: USB Mouse and Toshiba SP2100 In-Reply-To: <404C2EC0.5000100@filmakademie.de> References: <404C2EC0.5000100@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <404C3085.1080801@gmx.de> G?tz Reinicke wrote: > I upgraded my working fedora core 1 Notebook (Toshiba Satellite Pro > 2100) to core 2 test 1. After that, my external usb-mouse is not > working any more :-( the pointer jumps around and copy/pastes and > selects anything. > > I looked at my XF86Config, but did'nt find anything that is off use > too me :-(; I changed one "Device" from /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice. > > Any tips? try: # service gpm stop if this should help # chkconfig gpm off and bugzilla -- shrek-m From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Mon Mar 8 08:49:24 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:49:24 +0100 Subject: USB Mouse and Toshiba SP2100 In-Reply-To: <404C3085.1080801@gmx.de> References: <404C2EC0.5000100@filmakademie.de> <404C3085.1080801@gmx.de> Message-ID: <404C3394.1010907@filmakademie.de> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > G?tz Reinicke wrote: > >> I upgraded my working fedora core 1 Notebook (Toshiba Satellite Pro >> 2100) to core 2 test 1. After that, my external usb-mouse is not >> working any more :-( the pointer jumps around and copy/pastes and >> selects anything. >> >> I looked at my XF86Config, but did'nt find anything that is off use >> too me :-(; I changed one "Device" from /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice. >> >> Any tips? > > > > try: > # service gpm stop > > if this should help > # chkconfig gpm off > and bugzilla > Hi this didn't solve the problem :-( G?tz From rpjday at mindspring.com Mon Mar 8 08:48:07 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 03:48:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <404B9EE4.8010409@georgs.org> References: <404B9BDD.8000909@optonline.net> <404B9EE4.8010409@georgs.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Georg E Schneider wrote: > Edward A Jupin schrieb: > > > Could I do an upgrade, or do I definately have to do a clean install? > > Thanks! > What's a clean install from a *stable* version to a *test* version ? > by me it worked not well > (problems with the usb-devices caused of the kernel and the > module-init-tools/modutils) we went through this before -- *theoretically*, you should be able to upgrade from any stable version to any subsequent test version or the next stable version. this is not to say that it will work, only that it's something that *should* work. i suspect the fedora folks would like people to test the upgrade and report problems. rday From zgobolos at 777westel.hu Mon Mar 8 09:23:33 2004 From: zgobolos at 777westel.hu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6b=F6l=F6s_Zolt=E1n?=) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:23:33 +0100 Subject: need help In-Reply-To: <200403071820.03235.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> <1078683830.5566.11.camel@abulafia> <200403071820.03235.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1078737813.4334.15.camel@abulafia> The really big difference is the mainboard chipset. In D470V there is a SiS (M648FX + 963) and D470W has a SiS (645DX + 962). Booting D470W always needed to put acpi=on into kernel cmdline, but FC2T1 using acpi by default. Maybe this helps too (Sager 4080 = Clevo D470V): http://notebookforums.com/archive/index.php/t-13662 If you think that the hardware diff can help, put me the list, and I will compare. I also have a WXP installed into NTFS. On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 18:20 -0500, Gene C. wrote: > Thanks for the info. If you would be willing, I would like to put together a > description of the hardware I have (in case there are differences) and have > you take a look at it. > > I would also guess that you do not have MS Win2k installed into a NTFS > partition ... that and a partition table is is a bit strange. > -- > Gene Czarcinski From kissg at dataminer.hu Mon Mar 8 10:29:05 2004 From: kissg at dataminer.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kiss_G=E1bor?=) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:29:05 +0100 Subject: postgresql & yum Message-ID: <009b01c404f8$2eed4a40$0401a8c0@pclaptop> Dear All, the update of postgresql with yum makes the full database backup, sql server update, database conversion and database restore too? Thanx G?bor Kiss From fedora at andrewfarris.com Mon Mar 8 10:51:33 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 02:51:33 -0800 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <404BC263.9030400@optonline.net> References: <404B9E85.5070403@optonline.net> <1078706589.13362.2.camel@CirithUngol> <404BC263.9030400@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1078743092.15031.3.camel@CirithUngol> On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 19:46 -0500, Edward A Jupin wrote: > Thanks for all the opinions! I guess my biggest concern is the sound > issue, I can't live without sound! For what its worth, my audigy x-gamer works wonderfully. There are success stories and failures--YMMV. There will be much more need for upgrade path testing in the next test tho, since FC1 is supposed to upgrade smoothly to FC2 and that will need tested. -- Andrew J Farris afarris at calpoly.edu :: andrew at andrewfarris.com California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo CA http://www.andrewfarris.com/ From tmolina at cablespeed.com Mon Mar 8 11:09:38 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 06:09:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: References: <404B9BDD.8000909@optonline.net> <404B9EE4.8010409@georgs.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Georg E Schneider wrote: > > > Edward A Jupin schrieb: > > > > > Could I do an upgrade, or do I definately have to do a clean install? > > > Thanks! > > > What's a clean install from a *stable* version to a *test* version ? > > by me it worked not well > > (problems with the usb-devices caused of the kernel and the > > module-init-tools/modutils) > > we went through this before -- *theoretically*, you should be able to > upgrade from any stable version to any subsequent test version or the > next stable version. > > this is not to say that it will work, only that it's something that > *should* work. i suspect the fedora folks would like people to test the > upgrade and report problems. I had one system that had originally been installed as 5.0 and was continually upgraded all the way through 8.0. Package updates were done without problems, and I always had a functioning system. The only hiccup I ran into was when RedHat changed the rpm format in mid-stream. However, there are always differences between a system installed from scratch and one upgraded. On an upgraded system old packages will hang around, permissions on files and directories might be different, and there will be anomalies. A bug in rpm, or incorrect assumptions by package maintainers can cause problems. I've developed a few policies as a result. Backups are job one, of course! I also mount /usr/local and /home from a different disk. RedHat has been good about not messing with these locations, as mandated by the standards. This allows me to maintain user data across re-installs and across a network. From rpjday at mindspring.com Mon Mar 8 11:16:48 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 06:16:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: References: <404B9BDD.8000909@optonline.net> <404B9EE4.8010409@georgs.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Thomas Molina wrote: > I've developed a few policies as a result. Backups are job one, of > course! I also mount /usr/local and /home from a different disk. RedHat > has been good about not messing with these locations, as mandated by the > standards. This allows me to maintain user data across re-installs and > across a network. now if something could only be done about the disaster that is /var. :-) rday From randysch at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 11:26:35 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy L Schrickel) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 06:26:35 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <20040308010007.A27801@homebase.cluenet.de> References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> <404A3042.9050901@comcast.net> <20040308010007.A27801@homebase.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <404C586B.50106@comcast.net> Daniel Roesen wrote: > Please show "ip addr show dev eth0" to make sure we have all the info. I'm at work now, no access to the machine having the problem. So I'll skip over all the command output you asked for right now. I can do those from home later today, but I'll answer the questions that don't need access to the machine. > Are those two different installations? Or how do you toggle "IPv6 > enabled" (whatever that actually means - as both systems are obviously > IPv6 enabled per se). It's a single installation. FC1 worked fine, the Win XP side when I dual boot works fine. I "disable IPv6" by adding the line alias net-pf-10 off to my /etc/modprobe.conf file as mentioned earlier in this thread. My original issue was incredibly slow DNS. Looking at things across systems with ethereal showed those multiple AAAA messages. That lead me to wondering if it was something strange going on with ipv6 on my machine, so I wanted to "turn it off" as a test. Adding that line to the file did "turn it off", and DNS was fine. > Currently, it looks like 68.54.80.5 or your network's NAT is misbehaving > somehow. What kind of device is doing the NAT? It's a D-Link wireless access point (but the machine in question isn't wireless). I get the same result whether I point my DNS to the d-link (as dhcp configures it) or if I point it to the upstream comcast address. Thanks for the input Daniel. randy From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 8 11:40:50 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 12:40:50 +0100 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040307225911.76875.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040307225911.76875.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1078746049.5349.12.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Mark, > alsamixer.c:119:21: ncurses.h: No such file or directory > alsamixer.c:176: error: syntax error before '*' token > alsamixer.c:176: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_init_draw_contexts': > alsamixer.c:328: error: `COLOR_WHITE' undeclared (first use in this function) You need ncurses-devel to build alsa-utils. If you use the SRPM you should get a warning about this. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 8 12:24:39 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 07:24:39 -0500 Subject: postgresql & yum In-Reply-To: <009b01c404f8$2eed4a40$0401a8c0@pclaptop> References: <009b01c404f8$2eed4a40$0401a8c0@pclaptop> Message-ID: <1078748679.5419.4.camel@binkley> On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 11:29 +0100, Kiss G?bor wrote: > Dear All, > > the update of postgresql with yum makes the full > database backup, sql server update, database conversion and > database restore too? > Whether it does or not has nothing to do with yum. It has only to do with what is run in %pre and %post of the rpm(s). -sv From dr at cluenet.de Mon Mar 8 13:02:31 2004 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:02:31 +0100 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <404C586B.50106@comcast.net>; from randysch@comcast.net on Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 06:26:35AM -0500 References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> <404A3042.9050901@comcast.net> <20040308010007.A27801@homebase.cluenet.de> <404C586B.50106@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040308140231.A2215@homebase.cluenet.de> On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 06:26:35AM -0500, Randy L Schrickel wrote: > It's a single installation. FC1 worked fine, the Win XP side when I > dual boot works fine. I "disable IPv6" by adding the line > > alias net-pf-10 off > > to my /etc/modprobe.conf file as mentioned earlier in this thread. Well, but your second ifconfig output shows clearly, that there is an IPv6 link-local address assigned to eth0, which happens only if the IPv6 kernel module gets loaded. So in fact, your box _was_ IPv6 enabled in both cases. Best regards, Daniel From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 8 13:16:03 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:16:03 -0500 Subject: need help In-Reply-To: <1078737813.4334.15.camel@abulafia> References: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> <200403071820.03235.czar@czarc.net> <1078737813.4334.15.camel@abulafia> Message-ID: <200403080816.03568.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 08 March 2004 04:23, G?b?l?s Zolt?n wrote: > The really big difference is the mainboard chipset. In D470V there is a > SiS (M648FX + 963) and D470W has a SiS (645DX + 962). > > Booting D470W always needed to put acpi=on into kernel cmdline, but > FC2T1 using acpi by default. > > Maybe this helps too (Sager 4080 = Clevo D470V): > http://notebookforums.com/archive/index.php/t-13662 As far as I can tell, the hardware described in the above url also describes my hardware. When the BIOS boots, I also read Pheonix 4.0 Release 6.0, BIOS 1.03. If you have the same and can install/boot Fedora then I am a bit at a loss as to the problem. -- Gene From randysch at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 13:16:30 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy L Schrickel) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 08:16:30 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <20040308140231.A2215@homebase.cluenet.de> References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> <404A3042.9050901@comcast.net> <20040308010007.A27801@homebase.cluenet.de> <404C586B.50106@comcast.net> <20040308140231.A2215@homebase.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <404C722E.8080503@comcast.net> Daniel Roesen wrote: > Well, but your second ifconfig output shows clearly, that there is > an IPv6 link-local address assigned to eth0, which happens only if > the IPv6 kernel module gets loaded. So in fact, your box _was_ IPv6 > enabled in both cases. Oops. Nope, that was just a bad cut and paste job on my part. The inet6 addresses definitely don't show up when I do the ifconfig with the ipv6 "disabled". My mistake. Will try it again tonight, correctly. I think it looks the same, except no inet6 addr. Sorry for the misleading info! randy From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Mar 8 14:09:01 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:09:01 -0500 Subject: kernel rpm changelog References: <1078578297.3347.2.camel@family> Message-ID: Sandy Pond wrote: > Seems the kernel rpm changelog isn't getting updated. It is real nice > to see the incremental changes when your testing. > > What would be even nicer would be to see it without downloading first. I wish yum had this. From michal at harddata.com Mon Mar 8 15:43:24 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:43:24 -0700 Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: ; from rpjday@mindspring.com on Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 06:16:48AM -0500 References: <404B9BDD.8000909@optonline.net> <404B9EE4.8010409@georgs.org> Message-ID: <20040308084324.A24988@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 06:16:48AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > now if something could only be done about the disaster that is /var. :-) What disaster? You mean that over time some things like /home/httpd moved to /var/www and similar? I have systems around which went through a number of subsequent distribution upgrades. There was nothing which could not have been worked-around with a symbolic link or two. The worst come to worst you have 'mount --bind ...' although one should be careful with that one. Anaconda used to have problems with that but I did not try that kind of a layout with upgrades in recent times; maybe it is better now. I always operate on an assumption that my data and configuration are more valuable than a system stuff which can be always reloaded from a CD. Michal From jkeating at j2solutions.net Mon Mar 8 16:00:42 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:00:42 -0800 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200403080800.42239.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 08 March 2004 00:20, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > am i the only one who is completely unsatisfied with tvtime ? > with xawtv i am satisfied as i was it in the last years ( RHLx / FC1 ) > sure xawtv has some bugs, but ... > > > xawtv: http://bytesex.org/xawtv/ > - better image quality ( with an digital-sat-receiver via > scart-svideo-cabel ) > - 'export DISPLAY=remotehost:0; xawtv' works here without problems > because i have several workstations it is a nice feature to export xawtv > to the other workstations. > > > tvtime: > - really bad image quality in directly comparison with xawtv > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117651 > - 'export DISPLAY' or 'tvtime --display=remotehost:0' is not > working > > > > > unfortunately it looks like tvtime should replace xawtv in fc2 > in my eyes is it a step backwards and not forwards :-( > tv-history afair in RHL7.x -> FCx : > gtv -> xawtv -> tvtime There seems to be very few folks that tvtime does not work well for. 2 that I've seen thus far. For the rest of us, tvtime is miles ahead of xawtv. My tv quality is MUCH better w/ tvtime, and CPU usage is way down. The OSD display and keybindings are awesome. IMHO tvtime should be included in the distro proper, as it's a better choice for most people (that I've been in contact with), and xawtv should live in Extras for those of you that cannot use tvtime. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFATJiq4v2HLvE71NURAlLUAKCLKO21hVrPHx+8BXQhONyHATQGtwCfeUk7 8k6KyNkFo3D6V1sp9egSWZs= =i3mH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From markf78 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 8 16:09:28 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:09:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Upgrade core 1 to core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <1078746049.5349.12.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040308160928.68252.qmail@web11405.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- --- Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > > alsamixer.c:119:21: ncurses.h: No such file or directory > > alsamixer.c:176: error: syntax error before '*' token > > alsamixer.c:176: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > > alsamixer.c: In function `mixer_init_draw_contexts': > > alsamixer.c:328: error: `COLOR_WHITE' undeclared (first use in this > function) > > You need ncurses-devel to build alsa-utils. If you use the SRPM you > should get a warning about this. well, after installing ncurses-devel, i was able to install alsa-utils-1.0.3 from source. i then use the alsa-conf to recognize my sound card and that worked too (awe64 ISA). i then installed the ALSA output plugin for XMMS-1.2.10. but when trying to play an MP3 i get the following errors: [root at markf78 root]# xmms & [2] 21683 [root at markf78 root]# ** WARNING **: alsa_get_mixer(): Attaching to mixer hw:0 failed: No such device ** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): No such device forgive me if this is completely obvious but i am new to using ALSA. thanks in advance... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From dclemen at eresmas.com Mon Mar 8 16:15:04 2004 From: dclemen at eresmas.com (Daniel Clemente Roman) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 16:15:04 GMT Subject: Update packages and dependencies problems Message-ID: <740597468a.7468a74059@ma33.eresmas.com> Hi, I've a FC1 machine without Internet connection, and anothers (MSWindows) with connection. When I want to install a rpm in FC1, I download it, copy to a CD, and then try to install. But usually I have dependencies problems, so I need to download more rpm, write another CD/session and then try again. But there are any program/Web, who can tell me what dependencies problem I will have for a specific rpm (from my MSWindows machine). I've FC disk so dependencies will be affect only for early packages or packages not include in FC. Thanks FC is installed at home :) MSWindows is istalled at work :( ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Edici?n Limitada del nuevo disco de David Bisbal: Buler?a. Cons?guelo con un 18% de decuento, solo por 15,50 ? http://www.eresmas.com/banners/promo.html?zanox From sdinucci at cableone.net Mon Mar 8 16:30:14 2004 From: sdinucci at cableone.net (Scott DiNucci) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:30:14 -0700 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <1078666095.1563.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> <1078666095.1563.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <404C9F96.9020709@cableone.net> This is exactly what the problem was and how to resolve it. The recommended solutions require to turn off ECN support through Echo set or rebuilding the kernel. Is there a solution to do this other than rebuilding the kernel or the echo set(e.g. GUI for configuration setting within internet/network configuration)? Thanks to Andreas for providing the solution! Scott Andreas Pfaffeneder wrote: > Am Sa, den 06.03.2004 schrieb Scott DiNucci um 05:37: > >>Randy, >>Thanks for the fast reply. I saw the thread and had modified the >>/etc/modprobe.conf file and it did not fix the problem. If you watch the status >>line in Mozilla the resolving host happens very quickly and it hangs on the > > > Recently had the same problem with a friend?s soho-router, turned out to > be ECN - please have a look at: > > http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=pan.2003.12.29.03.49.33.222567%40mail.com > > Andreas > > From k at dicec.cl Mon Mar 8 16:34:45 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 13:34:45 -0300 Subject: Update packages and dependencies problems In-Reply-To: <740597468a.7468a74059@ma33.eresmas.com> References: <740597468a.7468a74059@ma33.eresmas.com> Message-ID: <1078763685.16742.3.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 13:15, Daniel Clemente Roman wrote: > Hi, > > I've a FC1 machine without Internet connection, and anothers (MSWindows) > with connection. When I want to install a rpm in FC1, I download it, > copy to a CD, and then try to install. But usually I have dependencies > problems, so I need to download more rpm, write another CD/session and > then try again. > > But there are any program/Web, who can tell me what dependencies problem > I will have for a specific rpm (from my MSWindows machine). > > I've FC disk so dependencies will be affect only for early packages or > packages not include in FC. > > Thanks > install from the cd's a package named rpmdb-fedoraXXXXXXXX.rpm this package gives to the rpm db the whole content of packages on the CDs, so when a package need dependencies you can invoke help with the --aid option rpm -ivh thepackage.rpm --aid if the rpm finds the dependency in the same directory installs it, automaticly. of course only if the dependecies is on the CD's ... that could help you know the dependencies of the packges (the known ones). > FC is installed at home :) > MSWindows is istalled at work :( > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Edici??n Limitada del nuevo disco de David Bisbal: Buler??a. Cons??guelo > con un 18% de decuento, solo por 15,50 > http://www.eresmas.com/banners/promo.html?zanox -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltd. Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Movil (56 9) 4195632 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From georg at georgs.org Mon Mar 8 16:49:52 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:49:52 +0100 Subject: Update packages and dependencies problems In-Reply-To: <740597468a.7468a74059@ma33.eresmas.com> References: <740597468a.7468a74059@ma33.eresmas.com> Message-ID: <404CA430.10903@georgs.org> Daniel Clemente Roman schrieb: >Hi, > >I've a FC1 machine without Internet connection, and anothers (MSWindows) >with connection. When I want to install a rpm in FC1, I download it, >copy to a CD, and then try to install. But usually I have dependencies >problems, so I need to download more rpm, write another CD/session and >then try again. > >But there are any program/Web, who can tell me what dependencies problem >I will have for a specific rpm (from my MSWindows machine). > >I've FC disk so dependencies will be affect only for early packages or >packages not include in FC. > >Thanks > >FC is installed at home :) >MSWindows is istalled at work :( > I've never tested but RPM Browser for Windows could be something you search*. ****http://www.laysi.com/rpmbw/ greetigs Georg E Schneider *** From notting at redhat.com Mon Mar 8 16:57:38 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:57:38 -0500 Subject: FC1 x86_64 missing security updates In-Reply-To: <200403051807.04947.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403051807.04947.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040308165737.GA21390@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Gene C. (czar at czarc.net) said: > Two security updates for lftp and libxml2 previously issued for FC1 i386 have > not been incorporated into FC1 x86_64 or made available as updates. All missing updates should be cleaned up now. Bill From notting at redhat.com Mon Mar 8 16:59:57 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:59:57 -0500 Subject: Firewire card now recognized as eth0 In-Reply-To: <4049D7D7.7020009@cox.net> References: <4049D7D7.7020009@cox.net> Message-ID: <20040308165957.GB21390@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Bill Estell (william.c.estell at cox.net) said: > I updated my system this morning and am now running kernel 2.6.3-2.1.238. > > After reboot into new kernel, boot log shows: > Mar 6 07:48:00 firebird ifup: cannot change name of eth1 to eth0: File > exists > Mar 6 07:48:00 firebird network: Bringing up interface eth0: failed > > Prior to this update my ethernet card was always eth0. Yeah, the eth1394 module is now blacklisted in modutils, while we debate better ways to handle this 'feature'. Bill From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Mon Mar 8 17:15:30 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:15:30 -0600 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403080800.42239.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <00ba01c40531$45d80d60$72b9fc80@rwa1> What card are you using for TV input? I have an All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro, and tvtime crashes just by trying to start it up. Also, there aren't any good drivers for my card (last I knew). Richard Ayer III From netopml at newview.com Mon Mar 8 17:18:01 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 08 Mar 2004 12:18:01 -0500 Subject: # Re: FC1 Test2 Internet Problem In-Reply-To: <404C9F96.9020709@cableone.net> References: <40495590.7000200@cableone.net> <1078666095.1563.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <404C9F96.9020709@cableone.net> Message-ID: sdinucci at cableone.net (Scott DiNucci) writes: > This is exactly what the problem was and how to resolve it. The > recommended solutions require to turn off ECN support through Echo set or > rebuilding the kernel. Is there a solution to do this other than > rebuilding the kernel or the echo set(e.g. GUI for configuration setting > within internet/network configuration)? sysctl and /etc/sysctl.conf (Add net.ipv4.tcp_ecn = 0 to sysctl.conf) -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 8 17:27:54 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 18:27:54 +0100 Subject: OT: MS-SCO Message-ID: <404CAD1A.9060207@gmx.de> hi, http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/04/03/08/0457259.shtml Whether or not Microsoft is secretly bankrolling the SCO Group for more than $100 million to attack Linux and the general open source community through questionable intellectual property lawsuits, NewsForge has learned that U.S. federal regulators may have begun investigating the relationship between the two companies -- and may also be looking closely at a number of other people and companies connected to them through stock or other business transactions. -- shrek-m From monica_news04 at yahoo.ca Mon Mar 8 17:39:05 2004 From: monica_news04 at yahoo.ca (Monica) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 12:39:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: no more free ptys In-Reply-To: <20040305230727.GA19162@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040308173905.32670.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> > > I have a utility that runs in Windows 2000 (sorry, the server for this product is only available for this o/s..) and it is supposed to be able to open a pty master/slave (such as /dev/ptya0 and /dev/ttya0) on the Linux server (Fedora Core2 Test1) and then do what it needs to do on the server. This is not happening with Fedora. The logs show that it can't open and find a free pty. > > Really it should be using Unix98 ttys anyway (/dev/ptmx) but I'm not > aware of the specific reason that old style pty stopped working They've been obsoleted and removed as "nothing used them". Aparently there are also security issues with the old style ptys, so I'm not jumping for joy over the idea of reenabling them. Dave If they have been removed, then how do I add them back in so that the old style ptys still work (at least until they start using the Unix98 ptys)? - Monica. --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave Waller From linuxnow at newtral.org Mon Mar 8 18:08:19 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:08:19 +0100 (CET) Subject: Xfree...ze (was x86_64 Branch of the 1.90 Tree) Message-ID: I'm right now installing FC1 to see if I can login to xdm and not get a freeze. I've been unsucessful with latest development,as you can read below if you are interested. Any hints? Pau ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:13:27 +0100 (CET) From: Pau Aliagas Reply-To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: x86_64 Branch of the 1.90 Tree On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Elliot Lee wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 lewt at warcry.com wrote: > > > I'm looking to test FC2T1 under the x86_64 platform. However I can only > > find i386 iso's available.. Has anyone made iso's for x86_64 yet? or does > > anyone know how or where to find out how to net install > > The development tree (formerly known as rawhide) should always be > net-installable for all archs that have a kernel and installer (currently, > x86 and x86-64). I've been able to update from FC1-test1 x86_64 to development and i've even started up X using http://www.linuxtx.org/XF86Config. The xdm login screen appears perfectly. But when I login, before any icon appears in the Fedora splash, the machin freezes completely and I have to reboot holding the power button for a few seconds. Any hints of what could be happening? My machine is an Acer Aspire 1500 with an ATI Radeon Mobility 9600. Pau -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 8 18:27:16 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 19:27:16 +0100 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Dave, > I updated policy and now I can't log in to gdm with anything other than > root! If you can't handle the stress of running a test release then why are you running it? Maybe you could investigate a little and come up with a solution that you are willing to share with us. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From monica_news04 at yahoo.ca Mon Mar 8 18:35:07 2004 From: monica_news04 at yahoo.ca (Monica) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:35:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: no more free ptys Message-ID: <20040308183507.53406.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> > > I have a utility that runs in Windows 2000 (sorry, the server for this product is only available for this o/s..) and it is supposed to be able to open a pty master/slave (such as /dev/ptya0 and /dev/ttya0) on the Linux server (Fedora Core2 Test1) and then do what it needs to do on the server. This is not happening with Fedora. The logs show that it can't open and find a free pty. > > Really it should be using Unix98 ttys anyway (/dev/ptmx) but I'm not > aware of the specific reason that old style pty stopped working They've been obsoleted and removed as "nothing used them". Aparently there are also security issues with the old style ptys, so I'm not jumping for joy over the idea of reenabling them. Dave If they have been removed, then how do I add them back in so that the old style ptys still work (at least until they start using the Unix98 ptys)? - Monica. OK, in /boot/config-2.6.3-1.118smp, there is an option that looks like the one that I need to enable, but the file says that it is auto-generated and that it shouldn't be manually edited. Where do I set this option from? # CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS is not set --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 8 18:46:32 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 08 Mar 2004 13:46:32 -0500 Subject: kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 and suspend Message-ID: <1078771592.13370.23.camel@opus> Hi, I just updated to kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 from rawhide/development on an ibm x23 p3-866 laptop. I've got acpi=off in the grub config section. The laptop appears to suspend correctly when I close the lid (just as it has on all the previous kernels). However, when I open it again the machine immediately reboots. if I use kernel 2.63-1.116 or previous it does do this. Does this have to do with the EL/FC kernel merge? Anyone else seeing this behavior? -sv From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 8 19:23:09 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:23:09 -0800 Subject: no /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts In-Reply-To: <404C249F.2060609@filmakademie.de> References: <404C249F.2060609@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <20040308192309.GA3924@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 08:45:35AM +0100, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > Hi, I installed for tests Fedora Core 2 Test 1 on a Dell Poweredge 1650 > SMP Server. I Tried to install the latest dev-kernel > (kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.242.i686.rpm) and get the following message: > > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts > > Whats wrong? Missing? ... > > Thanks for hints. Nothing is wrong. Nothing vanilla is missing. These messages are because "Test" contains hooks for Security Enhancements (SELinux) that are under test. For most of us SELinux is even more bleeding edge than Test. You do not need to or want to install SELinux packages/ patches unless you have a spare test system and a serious chunk of time to explore and learn SELinux. The curious may wish to look at: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.cfm http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/ I expect these messages will vanish for standard installs for FC2. For now they are harmless noise (unless you want the enhancements). -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net From balay at fastmail.fm Mon Mar 8 19:25:29 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:25:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 and suspend In-Reply-To: <1078771592.13370.23.camel@opus> References: <1078771592.13370.23.camel@opus> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, seth vidal wrote: > Hi, > I just updated to kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 from rawhide/development on an > ibm x23 p3-866 laptop. I've got acpi=off in the grub config section. > > The laptop appears to suspend correctly when I close the lid (just as it > has on all the previous kernels). However, when I open it again the > machine immediately reboots. > > if I use kernel 2.63-1.116 or previous it does do this. > > Does this have to do with the EL/FC kernel merge? > Anyone else seeing this behavior? The same thing happens on my TP 600E with a PII 366. I rember similar thing hapenning with early 2.6-davej kernels - except - the reboot would happen - when the laptop tried to get to sleep mode (not when recovering from sleep - as it does now) Satish From notting at redhat.com Mon Mar 8 19:39:14 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:39:14 -0500 Subject: kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 and suspend In-Reply-To: <1078771592.13370.23.camel@opus> References: <1078771592.13370.23.camel@opus> Message-ID: <20040308193913.GA16748@devserv.devel.redhat.com> seth vidal (skvidal at phy.duke.edu) said: > I just updated to kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 from rawhide/development on an > ibm x23 p3-866 laptop. I've got acpi=off in the grub config section. > > The laptop appears to suspend correctly when I close the lid (just as it > has on all the previous kernels). However, when I open it again the > machine immediately reboots. > > if I use kernel 2.63-1.116 or previous it does do this. > > Does this have to do with the EL/FC kernel merge? Almost certainly it's the 4/4 split. ACPI sleep does the same. Bill From lowen at pari.edu Mon Mar 8 19:39:21 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:39:21 -0500 Subject: postgresql & yum In-Reply-To: <009b01c404f8$2eed4a40$0401a8c0@pclaptop> References: <009b01c404f8$2eed4a40$0401a8c0@pclaptop> Message-ID: <200403081439.21203.lowen@pari.edu> On Monday 08 March 2004 05:29 am, Kiss G?bor wrote: > the update of postgresql with yum makes the full > database backup, sql server update, database conversion and > database restore too? No. As Seth has said, yum will rely on the %pre and %post scriptlets embedded in the RPM to do things. As the upstream maintainer for PostgreSQL, I can tell you with certainty that if you use yum, apt, up2date, or any other upgrade mechanism to upgrade PostgreSQL from one major version to another major version you will need to make sure that you take all the steps necessary to back up and migrate your database to the new version. You will have to dump and restore manually. If you do not do this you will need to downgrade PostgreSQL and then do this. Nothing is done automatically; there is too great of a chance of data loss between some versions of PostgreSQL if things are not done exactly right (things like user compiled C functions, for instance, cannot be migrated in place, they have to be recompiled). There are a lot of reasons for this; see the archives of the PostgreSQL [HACKERS] mailing list for the details. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From john.wendel at metnet.navy.mil Mon Mar 8 19:51:05 2004 From: john.wendel at metnet.navy.mil (John Wendel) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:51:05 -0800 Subject: USB problem Message-ID: <200403081151.05950.john.wendel@metnet.navy.mil> I've got a USB smart-card reader that seems to be having problems with the 2.6.3 kernel. Basically, it doesn't respond when I run an application that wants to read the card. The only error message I see follows. Can someone give me a clue where to start trying to get this thing working. >From /var/log/messages Mar 8 10:51:55 Godzilla1 kernel: usbfs: process 2093 (pcscd) did not claim interface 0 before use Thanks, John Wendel From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Mon Mar 8 20:12:09 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:12:09 -0600 Subject: Pump on FC2T1? Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2AF@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> I have been trying to use pump (dhcp client) on FC2T1 and can't seem to get it to work. I have tried it on FC1 and FC1 with a 2.6 Kernel and it seems to work fine on them. When I'm running pump on FC2T1 I get several messages from the dhcpd server that "5 bad udp checksums in 5 packets". I am going to keep digging into it, but I wanted to ask if there is something that is a known problem that I'm unaware of? Any pointers would be welcome. Thanks -Scott From monica_news04 at yahoo.ca Mon Mar 8 20:28:48 2004 From: monica_news04 at yahoo.ca (Monica) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:28:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: 2.6.3-1.118 kernel needed! Message-ID: <20040308202848.89101.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Does anybody have the rpms for the 2.6.3-1.118 kernel? I need this build (or one close to this). The latest build breaks a patch that I must apply for my video card and the one from the CD (2.6.1.1-65) does not work correctly with vmware. Thanks, Monica. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 8 20:49:09 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:49:09 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <200403080800.42239.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403080800.42239.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <404CDC45.1060400@gmx.de> Jesse Keating wrote: >There seems to be very few folks that tvtime does not work well for. > which television-standard ? PAL ? >2 that I've seen thus far. For the rest of us, > us = USA ;-) > tvtime is miles ahead of >xawtv. My tv quality is MUCH better w/ tvtime, and CPU usage is way down. > > ROFL ;-) i686, 400 mhz, 265 mb ram $ /sbin/lspci | grep -i bt 0000:00:0f.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02) 0000:00:0f.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02) TVTIME it makes no difference: "rpm" vs "self compiled" $ cat tvtime-watch USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 34.7 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:10 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 32.8 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:13 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 31.1 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:15 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 30.5 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:18 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 29.7 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:21 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 29.4 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:24 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 29.2 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:26 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 28.7 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:29 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 28.6 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:32 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 28.2 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:35 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 28.2 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:37 tvtime USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21905 27.9 4.5 38688 11640 pts/7 S< 20:50 0:40 tvtime vs. XAWTV $ cat xawtv-watch USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.3 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.3 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.3 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND admin 21835 0.2 1.7 12244 4416 pts/7 S 20:42 0:00 xawtv -- shrek-m From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Mon Mar 8 20:59:33 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:59:33 -0600 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <404CDEB5.6010106@precisiondrive.com> I put selinux=0 in my /etc/grub.conf and no more policy. kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.3-2.1.242 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb selinux=0 Dave Dave Waller wrote: > I updated policy and now I can't log in to gdm with anything other > than root! > > Dave Waller > > From biped at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 21:26:55 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 16:26:55 -0500 Subject: 2.6.3-1.118 kernel needed! In-Reply-To: <20040308202848.89101.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040308202848.89101.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <404CE51F.7010009@comcast.net> Monica released the following into the bitstream on 03/08/04 15:28: > Does anybody have the rpms for the 2.6.3-1.118 kernel? > I need this build (or one close to this). The latest > build breaks a patch that I must apply for my video > card and the one from the CD (2.6.1.1-65) does not > work correctly with vmware. > > Thanks, > Monica. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > If you are updating through yum, look in your /var/cache/yum/development/packages (the 'development' part of the path may vary) and see if the 2.6.3-1.118 kernel package is still there. HTH :: Marcus From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Mon Mar 8 21:34:45 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:34:45 -0600 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <404CE6F5.9060208@precisiondrive.com> I believe that the problem aroze in policy-1.7-3.noarch.rpm and is still in policy-1.7-4.noarch.rpm policy-1.6-16.noarch.rpm was installed and I had no problems. It also could be in the new kernel-2.6.3-2.1.238.i686.rpm I looked in the initrd and there are hardly any modules so maybe the kernel has selinux compiled in. Sure enough it is turned on in the /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.242/configs/kernel-2.6.3-i686.config Dave From monica_news04 at yahoo.ca Mon Mar 8 21:45:04 2004 From: monica_news04 at yahoo.ca (Monica) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:45:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: 2.6.3-1.118 kernel needed! In-Reply-To: <404CE51F.7010009@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040308214504.10420.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> --- Marcus Schuetz wrote: > Monica released the following into the bitstream on > 03/08/04 15:28: > > Does anybody have the rpms for the 2.6.3-1.118 > kernel? > > I need this build (or one close to this). The > latest > > build breaks a patch that I must apply for my > video > > card and the one from the CD (2.6.1.1-65) does not > > work correctly with vmware. > > > > Thanks, > > Monica. > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > > > > If you are updating through yum, look in your > /var/cache/yum/development/packages (the > 'development' part of the path > may vary) and see if the 2.6.3-1.118 kernel package > is still there. > > HTH > > :: Marcus > > I was not using yum (just installed with rpm). However, after many google searches, I finally found a server that still had the rpms, which saved me. :) ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From steve at rueb.com Mon Mar 8 21:50:53 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:50:53 -0600 Subject: Status of CD burning in rawhide? Message-ID: <404CEABD.5040509@rueb.com> I know there have been some recent posts about CD burning under test/rawhide, but none of them seem exactly like what I am observing. Using nautilus cd burner, it creates the image successfully, or at least it doesn't complain about anything. It then starts writing to the CD. Everything looks like it is working, but then it just hangs at about 2/3 of the way. Eventually the CD light goes off. It never finishes writing. And it never fixates. Basically, it creates a coaster. If I boot over to my FC1 partition everything is fine. I had hoped the kernel 242 would fix this, but apparently not. -Steve From jkeating at j2solutions.net Mon Mar 8 21:57:49 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:57:49 -0800 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <404CDC45.1060400@gmx.de> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403080800.42239.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <404CDC45.1060400@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200403081357.55084.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Monday 08 March 2004 12:49, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > which television-standard ? > PAL ? > > >2 that I've seen thus far. For the rest of us, > > us = USA ;-) Yes, most of my contacts are in the USA. > > tvtime is miles ahead of > >xawtv. My tv quality is MUCH better w/ tvtime, and CPU usage is way > > down. > > ROFL ;-) > i686, 400 mhz, 265 mb ram > $ /sbin/lspci | grep -i bt > 0000:00:0f.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 > Video Capture (rev 02) > 0000:00:0f.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio > Capture (rev 02) Like I said, there are a few people that tvtime is not good for them. It has something to do with their video hardware and tvtime not being able to display the way it wants to, thus using some sort of library that is causing huge cpu usage. Please don't get stuck in the whole "if it's broken for me, it must be broken for everybody" trap, as it just doesn't fly. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From gbpeck at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 8 22:33:07 2004 From: gbpeck at sbcglobal.net (Gary Peck) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:33:07 -0800 Subject: kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 and suspend In-Reply-To: <1078771592.13370.23.camel@opus> References: <1078771592.13370.23.camel@opus> Message-ID: <20040308223307.GA23251@realify.com> On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 01:46:32PM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > I just updated to kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 from rawhide/development on an > ibm x23 p3-866 laptop. I've got acpi=off in the grub config section. > > The laptop appears to suspend correctly when I close the lid (just as > it has on all the previous kernels). However, when I open it again the > machine immediately reboots. > > if I use kernel 2.63-1.116 or previous it does do this. > > Does this have to do with the EL/FC kernel merge? Anyone else seeing > this behavior? I'm running 2.6.3-2.1.240 on a dell inspiron 8100 and noticing the same thing. suspend works fine, but when the laptop resumes, it automatically reboots. this is with both APM (acpi=off and using "apm -s") and ACPI (using "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep"). i hadn't tried suspending with 2.6 yet, so i assumed that it was a 2.6 problem. if it's just the most recent kernel, i'll try to test with an older release (i still have 2.6.3-1.91 installed). anything we can do to help debug the cause of the reboots? the logs don't show anything after the suspend. gary From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 8 22:49:09 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 23:49:09 +0100 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: <404CE6F5.9060208@precisiondrive.com> References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> <404CE6F5.9060208@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <1078786148.5349.29.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Dave, > It also could be in the new kernel-2.6.3-2.1.238.i686.rpm > I looked in the initrd and there are hardly any modules so maybe the > kernel has selinux compiled in. That could well be as test2 is supposed to be shipped with SELinux enabled by default. With "investigating" I was more thinking of investigating a possible fix in the policy file. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From dwaller at precisiondrive.com Mon Mar 8 22:55:18 2004 From: dwaller at precisiondrive.com (Dave Waller) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 16:55:18 -0600 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <404CF9D6.7090205@precisiondrive.com> After further investigating I believe that the selinux=0 boot prompt might be a good canidate for default for FCC2. Since many people will not know (as I did not) anything about SELinux and it is eazy enough to turn on/off. Perhaps it is in or going to be in the installer as an option like the firewall screens. At first I thought that it would be module but it makes sence to have as a boot option only as any hacker could rmmod the selinux and then you have nothing. Dave Leonard den Ottolander wrote: >Hi Dave, > > > >>I updated policy and now I can't log in to gdm with anything other than >>root! >> >> > >If you can't handle the stress of running a test release then why are >you running it? > >Maybe you could investigate a little and come up with a solution that >you are willing to share with us. > >Leonard. > > > From randysch at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 22:56:26 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:56:26 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? Message-ID: <404CFA1A.7030508@comcast.net> Daniel Roesen wrote: > Please show "ip addr show dev eth0" to make sure we have all the info. Ok, I'm at home now, so here goes: (this is with IPV6 "off") [root at localhost root]# ip addr show dev eth0 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:01:03:c1:d1:be brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.0.100/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0 [root at localhost root]# ip -6 route 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.100 127.0.0.0/8 dev lo scope link default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 (and this is with IPV6 "on") [root at localhost root]# ip addr show dev eth0 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:01:03:c1:d1:be brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.0.100/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0 inet6 fe80::201:3ff:fec1:d1be/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ff02::1:ffc1:d1be/128 scope global valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ff02::1/128 scope global valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever [root at localhost root]# ip -6 route fe80::/64 dev eth0 metric 256 mtu 1500 advmss 1440 ff00::/8 dev eth0 metric 256 mtu 1500 advmss 1440 default dev eth0 proto kernel metric 256 mtu 1500 advmss 1440 unreachable default dev lo proto none metric -1 error -101 IPV6 "off" or "on" is controlled by adding/removing the line alias net-pf-10 off from my /etc/modprobe.conf file. Those outputs really don't tell me anything. Any help to you Daniel? Thanks, randy From redhat-lists at der-greif.net Mon Mar 8 22:53:04 2004 From: redhat-lists at der-greif.net (Tim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=FCschel?=) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 23:53:04 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1078786384.3343.120.camel@staschko.localdomain> Am Mo, den 08.03.2004 schrieb shrek-m at gmx.de um 09:20: > hi, > > am i the only one who is completely unsatisfied with tvtime ? You're not the only who gets better image quality with xawtv. Even with much fine tuning I still get bad image quality with tvtime compared to xawtv (with cable and PAL). Another problem is that tvtime doesn't interact with nxtvepg (http://nxtvepg.sf.net). But since Dag's repository contains xawtv I don't really care which program is the default TV application with Fedora. Tim. From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 8 23:34:07 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 18:34:07 -0500 Subject: FC1 x86_64 missing security updates In-Reply-To: <20040308165737.GA21390@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200403051807.04947.czar@czarc.net> <20040308165737.GA21390@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403081834.07382.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 08 March 2004 11:57, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Gene C. (czar at czarc.net) said: > > Two security updates for lftp and libxml2 previously issued for FC1 i386 > > have not been incorporated into FC1 x86_64 or made available as updates. > > All missing updates should be cleaned up now. Close ... there are still a couple of outstanding issues: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117646 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117824 which involve perl not having the properly named directory expected by xchat and spamassassin needing to be rebuilt with the updated perl. -- Gene From enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Mar 9 00:18:08 2004 From: enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Enrico Scholz) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 01:18:08 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> (shrek-m@gmx.de's message of "Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:20:24 +0100") References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> Message-ID: <87znaq7u0v.fsf@kosh.ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> shrek-m at gmx.de ("shrek-m at gmx.de") writes: > am i the only one who is completely unsatisfied with tvtime ? No, tvtime is broken for me too. It has 50% CPU load on my P4 2.6 and runs in windowed SDL mode only (MGA 450, Hauppauge Bt848, Asus P4800-E). Everything else gives either messages that I do not have YUY2 support, or tvtime segfaults miserably. xawtv on the same machine runs like a charm and I do not see quality differences. Enrico From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Tue Mar 9 00:58:56 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 01:58:56 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <200403081357.55084.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403080800.42239.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <404CDC45.1060400@gmx.de> <200403081357.55084.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <20040309015856.475eb51e.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:57:49 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > tvtime is miles ahead of > > >xawtv. My tv quality is MUCH better w/ tvtime, and CPU usage is way > > > down. > > > > ROFL ;-) > > i686, 400 mhz, 265 mb ram > > $ /sbin/lspci | grep -i bt > > 0000:00:0f.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 > > Video Capture (rev 02) > > 0000:00:0f.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio > > Capture (rev 02) > > Like I said, there are a few people that tvtime is not good for them. > It has something to do with their video hardware and tvtime not being > able to display the way it wants to, thus using some sort of library > that is causing huge cpu usage. Please don't get stuck in the whole > "if it's broken for me, it must be broken for everybody" trap, as it > just doesn't fly. One thing for sure, "a few people" is far off reality. The Bt878 chipset is a very popular one. And tvtime performs real badly with it. -- From dag at wieers.com Tue Mar 9 01:00:48 2004 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 02:00:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <1078786384.3343.120.camel@staschko.localdomain> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <1078786384.3343.120.camel@staschko.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Tim P?schel wrote: > Another problem is that tvtime doesn't interact with nxtvepg > (http://nxtvepg.sf.net). > But since Dag's repository contains xawtv I don't really care which > program is the default TV application with Fedora. You will enjoy the new nxtvepg package then ;) Kind regards, -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mharris at redhat.com Tue Mar 9 01:14:56 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 20:14:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Freeglut 2.2.0 is now in Fedora devel tree - Request For Testers Message-ID: I have updated freeglut to version 2.2.0 in fedora-devel. The new version should be API and ABI compatible with glut 3.7 to the best of my knowledge, as that is one of the main goals of the freeglut project. When upgrading to these new freeglut packages, they will automatically obsolete and uninstall any "glut" and "glut-devel" package present on the system. The new packages have a virtual provides set for "glut = 3.7" and "glut-devel = 3.7" for rpm dependancy compatibility with rpms which may be installed already which require either of the two. I have done some preliminary testing already, however there are 3 levels of testing that need to be done. Please test as many of the following scenarios as you can: - Install binary software that is already linked dynamically to Mark Kilgard's GLUT (or install GLUT and build some GLUT applications). Then upgrade to freeglut, and run the existing GLUT applications. This tests ABI compatibility from glut->freeglut. - With freeglut and freeglut installed (which will remove glut and glut-devel automatically), rebuild some applications that use GLUT, so that they've linked against freeglut instead. Test them, and note any problems or incompatibilities. This tests API compatibility. Note that no modification to the application's source is necessary. - With applications linked to freeglut as per above, now remove freeglut with "rpm -e freeglut freeglut-devel --nodeps" and reinstall the original glut from RHL 9. Now run-test the GLUT apps. This tests freeglut->glut ABI compatibility. Some software which you may find useful for testing include Mesa-demos, and Really Slick Screensavers (rss). There are many other GLUT using apps out there as well, however Fedora Core itself has no dependancies on GLUT currently, so 3rd party software is required to do this testing. If possible, please perform the above testing if possible by using the Red Hat supplied Mesa OpenGL implementation which is included with XFree86, so that we can get adequate test coverage with Mesa libGL, and DRI drivers. If you are using proprietary drivers from Nvidia, ATI or another 3rd party, you would have to uninstall these drivers temporarily and reinstall the Fedora provided libGL, etc. so that we know what is being tested is what comes with the OS. It is also important however for people to test with proprietary libGL from Nvidia, ATI, etc. as well however, as that will give additional compatibility test coverage with alternative libGL implementations. Interestingly enough, one of the problems with Mark Kilgard's original GLUT, is that it has a bug in it which causes it to not work properly with Nvidia and other libGL implementations if it has been compiled with Mesa, because mesa implements some extensions which are not widely used, and are not present in all vendor's libGLs out there. Freeglut should not suffer from this limitation, and so it should work equally well with both Mesa libGL and with Nvidia/ATI/etc. libGL - at least in theory. If you encounter any API or ABI incompatibilities in the above testing, or any bugs/problems with the library itself, please report them to the upstream freeglut bug tracker on sourceforge, which is located at: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=101032&group_id=1032&func=browse If you report a bug there, feel free to also file a tracker bug in Red Hat bugzilla as well, with a URL pointing to the upstream bug report for me to track. I'll monitor the upstream report also. If you discover any problems with the RPM packaging of freeglut itself, please report the bug in Red Hat bugzilla instead of upstream. Thanks in advance for any testing. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat From jkeating at j2solutions.net Tue Mar 9 01:11:54 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 17:11:54 -0800 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <20040309015856.475eb51e.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403081357.55084.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040309015856.475eb51e.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <200403081711.59504.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Monday 08 March 2004 16:58, Michael Schwendt wrote: > One thing for sure, "a few people" is far off reality. The Bt878 > chipset is a very popular one. And tvtime performs real badly with > it. I cannot duplicate that. I have a BT878 chipset myself, tvtime is wonderful, xawtv is not. I do believe the problem is not with the chipset. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Still, xawtv doesn't need 44% of the CPU power with the same hardware. -- From dr at cluenet.de Tue Mar 9 04:27:52 2004 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:27:52 +0100 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <404CFA1A.7030508@comcast.net>; from randysch@comcast.net on Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 05:56:26PM -0500 References: <404CFA1A.7030508@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040309052752.A12938@homebase.cluenet.de> On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 05:56:26PM -0500, Randy Schrickel wrote: > [root at localhost root]# ip -6 route > fe80::/64 dev eth0 metric 256 mtu 1500 advmss 1440 > ff00::/8 dev eth0 metric 256 mtu 1500 advmss 1440 > default dev eth0 proto kernel metric 256 mtu 1500 advmss 1440 > unreachable default dev lo proto none metric -1 error -101 > [...] > > Those outputs really don't tell me anything. Any help to you Daniel? Try: ip -6 route del default dev eth0 and try wether you still get those timeouts. Best regards, Daniel From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Mar 9 04:28:18 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 23:28:18 -0500 Subject: kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 and suspend In-Reply-To: <20040308193913.GA16748@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1078771592.13370.23.camel@opus> <20040308193913.GA16748@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1078806498.4239.11.camel@binkley> > Almost certainly it's the 4/4 split. ACPI sleep does the same. Anything we can do to make it work again? File a bug? comment on a bug? I wish I had an oops or stacktrace but it just reboots :) -sv From kincera at kintelwireless.com Tue Mar 9 05:27:44 2004 From: kincera at kintelwireless.com (Aaron Kincer) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:27:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: up2date broken In-Reply-To: <20040308233203.29560.49187.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040308233203.29560.49187.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1118.12.169.48.2.1078810064.squirrel@webmail.kintelwireless.com> up2date no longer works for me from gui or command line. When I try to run it, I get this: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? sys.exit(main() or 0) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 880, in main from up2date_client import gui File "gui.py", line 20, in ? ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode Any ideas? From ehoover at mines.edu Tue Mar 9 04:25:19 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (Erich Hoover) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:25:19 -0700 Subject: ATI Radeon Drivers can't use FC2 RPM kernels Message-ID: <404D472F.8010600@mines.edu> Unless someone knows something I don't I cannot find a way to get the FC2 RPM kernels to work with the ATI Radeon drivers even after following the instructions for enabling and disabling kernel options. RedHat says "we don't support proprietary drivers" but the drivers work fine with a vanilla kernel (tested w/ 2.6.4 RC2). Just a warning to anyone else trying to get these drivers to work, go download a vanilla kernel and use that instead (this guide helps: http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/). From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Mar 9 05:03:27 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 23:03:27 -0600 Subject: up2date broken In-Reply-To: <1118.12.169.48.2.1078810064.squirrel@webmail.kintelwireless.com> References: <20040308233203.29560.49187.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> <1118.12.169.48.2.1078810064.squirrel@webmail.kintelwireless.com> Message-ID: <1078808607.4894.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 23:27, Aaron Kincer wrote: > up2date no longer works for me from gui or command line. When I try to run > it, I get this: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? > sys.exit(main() or 0) > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 880, in main > from up2date_client import gui > File "gui.py", line 20, in ? > ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: > gtk_file_chooser_set_folder_mode Try updating your libgnomeui package from rawhide and see if that fixes it. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From jkeating at j2solutions.net Tue Mar 9 05:19:35 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:19:35 -0800 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <20040309031214.6dfd3281.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403081711.59504.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040309031214.6dfd3281.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <200403082119.35651.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 08 March 2004 18:12, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Still, xawtv doesn't need 44% of the CPU power with the same hardware. Again, I can't duplicate that here. There are some systems that xawtv works better on, some that don't. Largely all the folks that have reported xawtv not working well have been outside the US. I get this for the norm with tvtime: 12402 jkeating -99 -19 44684 10M 13628 S < 1.5 1.0 0:25 0 tvtime 12402 jkeating -99 -19 44684 10M 13628 S < 2.1 1.0 0:25 0 tvtime 12402 jkeating -99 -19 44684 10M 13628 S < 1.1 1.0 0:26 0 tvtime I'm using ntsc, with Xv video out. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFATVPn4v2HLvE71NURAlnDAKC5wbQgVlbUh/5wNgkQ86BFqAbhYACgjtny eN2giRcx4CouIA+KnKD6IHI= =u33k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lewt at warcry.com Tue Mar 9 05:42:30 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 23:42:30 -0600 Subject: kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 and suspend In-Reply-To: <1078806498.4239.11.camel@binkley> References: <1078771592.13370.23.camel@opus> <20040308193913.GA16748@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1078806498.4239.11.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <404D5946.1020603@warcry.com> seth vidal wrote: >>Almost certainly it's the 4/4 split. ACPI sleep does the same. >> >> > >Anything we can do to make it work again? File a bug? comment on a bug? >I wish I had an oops or stacktrace but it just reboots :) > >-sv > > > > > You could compile in one of the RC's for 2.6.4 From markf78 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 9 06:22:12 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:22:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: ATI Radeon Drivers can't use FC2 RPM kernels In-Reply-To: <404D472F.8010600@mines.edu> Message-ID: <20040309062212.3972.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Erich- --- Erich Hoover wrote: > Unless someone knows something I don't I cannot find a way to get the > FC2 RPM kernels to work with the ATI Radeon drivers even after following > the instructions for enabling and disabling kernel options. RedHat says what doesn't work exactly? i doubt the talented people here (which certainly doesn't include myself) will be able to help you unless you are more specific. thanks.... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Mar 9 07:10:42 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 07:10:42 +0000 Subject: ACPI Message-ID: <1078816242.2855.2.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Is there something in ACPI which shuts down the machine after a set amount of time - this box always closes down at about 6am GMT but doesn't let me fire back up. I've switched off ACPI now, so I'll know tomorrow if that was causing it. It's annoying! IIRC, the BIOS on my machine supports ACPI and the machine should wake back up when the Wake Up button is pressed - it doesn't. TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks ? ? -William From pp at ee.oulu.fi Tue Mar 9 08:06:25 2004 From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 10:06:25 +0200 Subject: NVIDIA & Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.283 In-Reply-To: <1078609789.3590.3.camel@CirithUngol> References: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> <4049E355.9080108@hispeed.ch> <1078609789.3590.3.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <20040309080625.GA28042@ee.oulu.fi> On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 01:49:49PM -0800, Andrew Farris wrote: > Are there any relevant changes to the kernel config between the version > that worked and any that don't? The configs are all included in the > kernel-source package. CONFIG_4KSTACKS is the likely suspect, minion.de says it's not compatible with the driver and the latest kernels have that enabled. -- Pekka Pietikainen From fedora.core2 at chello.nl Tue Mar 9 08:34:29 2004 From: fedora.core2 at chello.nl (Hay Bouten) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:34:29 +0100 Subject: USB scanner not working Message-ID: <1078821268.1911.6.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> Hi All, Running a up2date Fedora Core 2 and can't get the HP6200c USB scanner to work. xsane doesn't find the scanner on hp:/dev/usb/scanner0 When I plugin the scanner /var/log/messages displays: Mar 9 09:18:28 lshay002 kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 Mar 9 09:18:29 lshay002 usb.agent[3541]: ... no modules for USB product 3f0/201/100 sane-find-scanner displays: found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0, product=0x0201) at libusb:001:003 scanimage -L displays: hp:libusb:001:003' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 62x0C flatbed scanner So the scanner is there, but how to set it up? Thanks, Hay From bart.martens at chello.be Tue Mar 9 08:52:40 2004 From: bart.martens at chello.be (Bart Martens) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:52:40 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <20040309015856.475eb51e.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403080800.42239.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <404CDC45.1060400@gmx.de> <200403081357.55084.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040309015856.475eb51e.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1078822360.3743.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 01:58, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:57:49 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > Like I said, there are a few people that tvtime is not good for them. > > It has something to do with their video hardware and tvtime not being > > able to display the way it wants to, thus using some sort of library > > that is causing huge cpu usage. Please don't get stuck in the whole > > "if it's broken for me, it must be broken for everybody" trap, as it > > just doesn't fly. > > One thing for sure, "a few people" is far off reality. The Bt878 chipset > is a very popular one. And tvtime performs real badly with it. Michael, I agree with what Jesse said. I have a bt878 chipset in my Hauppage WinTV Express tv-card. For some reason tvtime works excellent, while xawtv crashes. Maybe the solution is to have both tvtime and xawtv included, in core or in extras or in alternatives, I don't know. From zgobolos at 777westel.hu Tue Mar 9 08:57:56 2004 From: zgobolos at 777westel.hu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6b=F6l=F6s_Zolt=E1n?=) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:57:56 +0100 Subject: need help In-Reply-To: <200403080816.03568.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> <200403071820.03235.czar@czarc.net> <1078737813.4334.15.camel@abulafia> <200403080816.03568.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1078822676.4215.3.camel@abulafia> This is my BIOS version: PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0 BIOS Revision: 1.02 KBC/EC Revision: 1.00.02 > As far as I can tell, the hardware described in the above url also describes > my hardware. When the BIOS boots, I also read Pheonix 4.0 Release 6.0, BIOS > 1.03. > > If you have the same and can install/boot Fedora then I am a bit at a loss as > to the problem. From bart.martens at chello.be Tue Mar 9 08:58:25 2004 From: bart.martens at chello.be (Bart Martens) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:58:25 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <1078822360.3743.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403080800.42239.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <404CDC45.1060400@gmx.de> <200403081357.55084.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040309015856.475eb51e.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> <1078822360.3743.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1078822705.3743.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 09:52, Bart Martens wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 01:58, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:57:49 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > > > Like I said, there are a few people that tvtime is not good for them. > > > It has something to do with their video hardware and tvtime not being > > > able to display the way it wants to, thus using some sort of library > > > that is causing huge cpu usage. Please don't get stuck in the whole > > > "if it's broken for me, it must be broken for everybody" trap, as it > > > just doesn't fly. > > > > One thing for sure, "a few people" is far off reality. The Bt878 chipset > > is a very popular one. And tvtime performs real badly with it. > > Michael, I agree with what Jesse said. I have a bt878 chipset in my > Hauppage WinTV Express tv-card. For some reason tvtime works excellent, > while xawtv crashes. Maybe the solution is to have both tvtime and xawtv > included, in core or in extras or in alternatives, I don't know. > I forgot to mention that I'm still using tvtime-0.9.12-0.rhfc1.dag from Dag's repository. From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Tue Mar 9 09:16:21 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:16:21 -0300 Subject: ATI Radeon Drivers can't use FC2 RPM kernels In-Reply-To: <20040309062212.3972.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040309062212.3972.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <404D8B65.8000300@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Mark Fonnemann wrote: > what doesn't work exactly? i doubt the talented people here (which >certainly doesn't include myself) will be able to help you unless you are more >specific. thanks.... > >mark. :-) > > Probably the same that happened to me happened to him: the drivers wouldnt compile for some reason. I've tryed all the patches available and none made it compile. I simply gave up on the drivers , as I dont need 3d acceleration on linux and because I believe that support to the 2.6 kernel is not official on the ATI drivers. But I'm gonna test the tutorial that Erich posted and later I'll post the errors I get.. -- Pedro Macedo From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Tue Mar 9 09:23:55 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:23:55 +0000 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: <404CF9D6.7090205@precisiondrive.com> References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> <404CF9D6.7090205@precisiondrive.com> Message-ID: <1078824234.15308.27.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 22:55, Dave Waller wrote: > After further investigating I believe that the selinux=0 boot prompt > might be a good canidate for default for FCC2. > > Since many people will not know (as I did not) anything about SELinux > and it is eazy enough to turn on/off. Perhaps it is in or going to be > in the installer as an option like the firewall screens. > > At first I thought that it would be module but it makes sence to have as > a boot option only as any hacker could rmmod the selinux and then you > have nothing. > > Dave If by FCC2, you mean Fedora Core Test2 (wasn't sure what the second C meant), then they will not be shipping it with selinux=0 as the default. Or this was my impression. They need the SELinux stuff tested as much as possible, defaulting it to off will not exactly do this. Not sure what will happen with FC2, but hopefully if it's tested enough in text 2 and 3 then there will be no problem in FC2. Doug From DvdBtty at netscape.net Tue Mar 9 10:53:20 2004 From: DvdBtty at netscape.net (David McCormick) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 05:53:20 -0500 Subject: WHICH KERNEL Message-ID: <404DA220.4070204@netscape.net> I am using FC-1 on a AMD64 FX machine and would like to update the Kernel. Do I use the x86_64 RPM, i686,i586, or i386 kernel? I thought that the x86_64 kernel would only be for the FC-1-x86_64 OS. I like the FC-1-x86_64 OS but can't use one program without loading a large group of 32 bit librarys so I am sticking with the 32 bit for now. David McCormick From tiku at tiku.dyndns.org Tue Mar 9 10:59:58 2004 From: tiku at tiku.dyndns.org (Timo Kujala) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 12:59:58 +0200 Subject: kernel 2.6.3 (x86_64), module loading on demand Message-ID: <20040309105958.GB27508@tiku.dyndns.org> Hi, I installed Core 1 from iso's and then updated it to development version with up2date. And now I'm hitting the bug 117411, kernel no longer loads modules on demand. Everything works just fine if modules are modprobe'd manually. Is someone using x86_64 actually been able to get kernel 2.6.3 working? This occurs both on vanilla 2.6.3 and 2.6.3-2.1.242. How is this module loading through kmod even supposed to work? Let's assume that I have /dev/nvidiactl, which is character device and has major 195. If I do cat /dev/nvidiactl, what actually should happen? With some tracing in fs/char_dev.c and drivers/base/map.c, I can tell that kobj_lookup gets called, trying to find device with major 195. But the map does not contain such device, there is only one entry with major 1 (which seems to be the default value set by kobj_map_init). When should this value be initialized after all.. the only place I found is in nvidia's driver initialization, which gets called when module is modprobe'd, which on the other hand won't happen via kernel's kmod as it does not find the module from the map.. or something.. probably totally wrong interpreation =) From r.williams246 at verizon.net Tue Mar 9 11:03:39 2004 From: r.williams246 at verizon.net (robbie williams) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:03:39 -0500 Subject: fedora amd64 core 1 nvidia driver Message-ID: <1078830219.6356.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have a geforce fx 5600 and a 5900 xt. I installed the official nvidia amd64 linux driver and changed the xf86config to nvidia but when i boot i get a garbled screen and a no go from there. I have to revert bact to using the nv driver. Is anyone having any luck and if so could they send me there config file and any tips. Thanks From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Tue Mar 9 12:54:45 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:54:45 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <200403082119.35651.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403081711.59504.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040309031214.6dfd3281.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> <200403082119.35651.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <20040309135445.004e97f1.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:19:35 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > Still, xawtv doesn't need 44% of the CPU power with the same hardware. > > Again, I can't duplicate that here. You don't need to. ;) Others can. Just accept that it might be many more than "a few people" (which is what you wrote earlier). There's at least one bug report about it in the tracker, too. >80% CPU load on a Mandrake Linux system. It could be the combination of TV card and graphics adapter, too. That's why I pointed out that whatever tvtime does differently than xawtv with the same hardware, X server and graphics driver, it results in high CPU load. Reproducibly. The goal is to find out the cause of the load, not to argue endlessly about whether or not tvtime works "better" for some people. Bart Martens wrote: > Michael, I agree with what Jesse said. I have a bt878 chipset in my > Hauppage WinTV Express tv-card. For some reason tvtime works excellent, > while xawtv crashes. Is the crash related? Or is it an ordinary bug in xawtv as shipped with Fedora Core 1, for instance? Someone in this thread mentioned that tvtime crashes upon startup. -- From bart.martens at chello.be Tue Mar 9 13:22:25 2004 From: bart.martens at chello.be (Bart Martens) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 14:22:25 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <20040309135445.004e97f1.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <404C2CC8.3030804@gmx.de> <200403081711.59504.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040309031214.6dfd3281.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> <200403082119.35651.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040309135445.004e97f1.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1078838545.3743.109.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 13:54, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Bart Martens wrote: > > Michael, I agree with what Jesse said. I have a bt878 chipset in my > > Hauppage WinTV Express tv-card. For some reason tvtime works excellent, > > while xawtv crashes. > > Is the crash related? Or is it an ordinary bug in xawtv as shipped with > Fedora Core 1, for instance? Someone in this thread mentioned that > tvtime crashes upon startup. I was just confirming that for some people tvtime works better than xawtv, also with bt878. Crashes related, no idea. From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 9 13:56:14 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 08:56:14 -0500 Subject: need help In-Reply-To: <1078822676.4215.3.camel@abulafia> References: <200403061610.57908.czar@czarc.net> <200403080816.03568.czar@czarc.net> <1078822676.4215.3.camel@abulafia> Message-ID: <200403090856.14614.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 09 March 2004 03:57, G?b?l?s Zolt?n wrote: > This is my BIOS version: > > PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0 > BIOS Revision: 1.02 > KBC/EC Revision: 1.00.02 Thanks for your help. I seem to have a more recent BIOS (that does not make it "better"). I have finally found how to get the various "flavors" of Red Hat to install ... I have a purchased copy of Red Hat Professional Workstation (the limited support version of RHEL 3) and put in a call to Red Hat support ... they did come up with the answer ... pci=off nodma I needed both for the install to work ... one or ther other does not do it. It also appears that I need this when I boot the installed system. I do not understand why Red Hat and Fedora systems need this and the other distributions do not -- Mandrake 9.2, Gentoo 1.4, SuSE 9.0, SuSE LivEval (bootable cdrom), knoppix (Debian based bootable cdrom). There is scant information in the kernel Documentation so I am not exactly sure just what these boot parameters do. Gene -- From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 9 13:59:27 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 08:59:27 -0500 Subject: WHICH KERNEL In-Reply-To: <404DA220.4070204@netscape.net> References: <404DA220.4070204@netscape.net> Message-ID: <200403090859.27917.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 09 March 2004 05:53, David McCormick wrote: > I am using FC-1 on a AMD64 FX machine and would like to update the > Kernel. Do I use the x86_64 RPM, i686,i586, or i386 kernel? I thought > that the x86_64 kernel would only be for the FC-1-x86_64 OS. I like the > FC-1-x86_64 OS but can't use one program without loading a large group > of 32 bit librarys so I am sticking with the 32 bit for now. The kernel in the FC1 x86_64 distribution is the latest kernel ... 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl. The kernel is the x86_64 kernel ... this is really defines the system as a x86_64 system ... the applications supported can be 32 bit or 64 bit applications. -- Gene From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Tue Mar 9 14:28:39 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:28:39 -0500 Subject: USB scanner not working In-Reply-To: <1078821268.1911.6.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> References: <1078821268.1911.6.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> Message-ID: <1078842519.3277.23.camel@family> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 09:34 +0100, Hay Bouten wrote: > Hi All, > > Running a up2date Fedora Core 2 and can't get the HP6200c USB scanner to > work. > > xsane doesn't find the scanner on hp:/dev/usb/scanner0 > > When I plugin the scanner /var/log/messages displays: > > Mar 9 09:18:28 lshay002 kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device > using address 3 > Mar 9 09:18:29 lshay002 usb.agent[3541]: ... no modules for USB product > 3f0/201/100 > > sane-find-scanner displays: > found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0, product=0x0201) at libusb:001:003 > > scanimage -L displays: > hp:libusb:001:003' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 62x0C flatbed scanner > > So the scanner is there, but how to set it up? > Did you try as root ... it may only be a privilege problem? Seem that /dev/usb/scanner0 is depreciated with the new sysfs/libusb/ hotplug subsystems. Your usb device file is at: /proc/bus/usb/001/003 Note that device file depends on the usb setup and can be determined from the output of sane-find-scanner. To correct the privilege I added: chmod 777 $(sane-find-scanner | \ grep '^found USB scanner' | \ sed -e 's?^.*libusb:?/proc/bus/usb/?' -e 's?:?/?') to /etc/rc.d/rc.local. This is temporary and has many bugs. I don't know how xsane is suppose handle device file location and user privilege with the new sysfs/libusb/hotplug setup. I did look some and udev might be a solution but even there the privilege part is no good. And then how's this all going to work in Redhat? :) From randysch at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 14:38:43 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy L Schrickel) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:38:43 -0500 Subject: USB scanner not working In-Reply-To: <1078842519.3277.23.camel@family> References: <1078821268.1911.6.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> <1078842519.3277.23.camel@family> Message-ID: <404DD6F3.5080506@comcast.net> > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 09:34 +0100, Hay Bouten wrote: > >>Running a up2date Fedora Core 2 and can't get the HP6200c USB scanner to >>work. >> >>xsane doesn't find the scanner on hp:/dev/usb/scanner0 >> >>When I plugin the scanner /var/log/messages displays: >> >>Mar 9 09:18:28 lshay002 kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device >>using address 3 >>Mar 9 09:18:29 lshay002 usb.agent[3541]: ... no modules for USB product >>3f0/201/100 >> >>sane-find-scanner displays: >>found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0, product=0x0201) at libusb:001:003 >> >>scanimage -L displays: >>hp:libusb:001:003' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 62x0C flatbed scanner >> >>So the scanner is there, but how to set it up? Sounds like the problem I had with my Epson USB scanner. I had to change a file - don't remember exactly which file it was - but here on my Red Hat 9 box it's /etc/sane.d/epson.conf. Yours would be hp.conf I guess, not sure if it still lives in the same directory on FC. Anyway, mine had a line like "scsi EPSON" with the line "usb /dev/usb/scanner0" commented out. I swapped them, commenting out the scsi line instead, and it worked. Your hp.conf probably has something similar, so try taking a look at that to make sure sane is looking in the right spot. randy From davej at redhat.com Tue Mar 9 15:43:48 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:43:48 +0000 Subject: no more free ptys In-Reply-To: <20040308173905.32670.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040308173905.32670.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1078847028.10058.2.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 17:39, Monica wrote: > If they have been removed, then how do I add them back in so that the > old style ptys still work (at least until they start using the Unix98 > ptys)? recompile kernel with CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS=y Dave From craig at 8010.co.uk Tue Mar 9 16:07:37 2004 From: craig at 8010.co.uk (Craig Tinson) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 16:07:37 +0000 Subject: FC2: up2date conflicts Message-ID: <1078848456.5640.6.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> well.. thought I'd give it a go.. been waiting to have a play with the 2.6 kernel for a while and this seemed like a good time.. so I downloaded the 4 iso's.. installed this morning.. and looking good so far :) (and it might just be me but it seems a *lot* faster than RH9) now.. up2date says there are 1454'ish updates.. so I went to run it.. it comes up with unresolvable dependencies for balsa and redhat-lsb.. I removed balsa from the update list.. but redhat-lsb isn't getting installed (not listed).. it says is requires /usr/bin/kill .. kill isn't getting updated either.. so I can't figure out how to get the update running.. seeing as the kde 3.2 and the kernel 2.6.3 are getting installed I'd call this the whole point of installing FC2 in the first place so am eager to get the updates going.. so has anyone any ideas on how to resolve this? TIA Craig From craig at 8010.co.uk Tue Mar 9 16:13:45 2004 From: craig at 8010.co.uk (Craig Tinson) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 16:13:45 +0000 Subject: FC2: up2date conflicts In-Reply-To: <1078848456.5640.6.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> References: <1078848456.5640.6.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> Message-ID: <1078848825.15788.1.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> > it comes up with unresolvable dependencies for balsa and redhat-lsb.. I > removed balsa from the update list.. but redhat-lsb isn't getting > installed (not listed).. it says is requires /usr/bin/kill .. kill isn't > getting updated either.. so I can't figure out how to get the update > running.. it's ok.. I think I've found it mentioned in the archives :) will give that a go :) Thanks Craig From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Tue Mar 9 16:33:54 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 11:33:54 -0500 Subject: USB scanner not working In-Reply-To: <404DD6F3.5080506@comcast.net> References: <1078821268.1911.6.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> <1078842519.3277.23.camel@family> <404DD6F3.5080506@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1078850033.17211.8.camel@study> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 09:38, Randy L Schrickel wrote: > > Sounds like the problem I had with my Epson USB scanner. I had to > change a file - don't remember exactly which file it was - but here on > my Red Hat 9 box it's /etc/sane.d/epson.conf. Yours would be hp.conf I > guess, not sure if it still lives in the same directory on FC. > > Anyway, mine had a line like "scsi EPSON" with the line "usb > /dev/usb/scanner0" commented out. Are you using FC2 test1 because this didn't work for my epson scanner? It did work for FC1, RH9, RH8 ... > I swapped them, commenting out the > scsi line instead, and it worked. Your hp.conf probably has something > similar, so try taking a look at that to make sure sane is looking in > the right spot. On my rawhide updated FC2 test1 the /etc/sane.d/hp.conf has his scanner list properly by usb vendor and model and "scanimage -L" finds his scanner so I doubt this is the problem. :) From randysch at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 17:02:09 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy L Schrickel) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 12:02:09 -0500 Subject: USB scanner not working In-Reply-To: <1078850033.17211.8.camel@study> References: <1078821268.1911.6.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> <1078842519.3277.23.camel@family> <404DD6F3.5080506@comcast.net> <1078850033.17211.8.camel@study> Message-ID: <404DF891.1040200@comcast.net> Sandy Pond wrote: > Are you using FC2 test1 because this didn't work for my epson scanner? > It did work for FC1, RH9, RH8 ... Yep. Fresh install from CD the day after it was released, with no updates since (I've tried updating with both yum and up2date, both fail miserably. I've done some/most of the things mentioned here to fix it, no luck. But that's not the point of this post. ;) > On my rawhide updated FC2 test1 the /etc/sane.d/hp.conf has his scanner > list properly by usb vendor and model and "scanimage -L" finds his > scanner so I doubt this is the problem. Sounds like you're right. I don't think I did a "scanimage", but dmesg showed it was there. randy From reader at newsguy.com Tue Mar 9 17:13:17 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 11:13:17 -0600 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: <1078824234.15308.27.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> (Douglas Furlong's message of "Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:23:55 +0000") References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> <404CF9D6.7090205@precisiondrive.com> <1078824234.15308.27.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> Message-ID: Douglas Furlong writes: > On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 22:55, Dave Waller wrote: >> After further investigating I believe that the selinux=0 boot prompt >> might be a good canidate for default for FCC2. >> >> Since many people will not know (as I did not) anything about SELinux >> and it is eazy enough to turn on/off. Perhaps it is in or going to be >> in the installer as an option like the firewall screens. >> >> At first I thought that it would be module but it makes sence to have as >> a boot option only as any hacker could rmmod the selinux and then you >> have nothing. >> >> Dave > > If by FCC2, you mean Fedora Core Test2 (wasn't sure what the second C > meant), then they will not be shipping it with selinux=0 as the default. > Or this was my impression. > > They need the SELinux stuff tested as much as possible, defaulting it to > off will not exactly do this. > > Not sure what will happen with FC2, but hopefully if it's tested enough > in text 2 and 3 then there will be no problem in FC2. If user runs with selinx=0 in grub, then should user still see messages about missing files etc, like the one I see whenever I run rpm -[Ui] *.rpm? /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory That pathname is unknown to the most recent rpmdb-fedora. From pauln at truemesh.com Tue Mar 9 17:11:29 2004 From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:11:29 +0000 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> <404CF9D6.7090205@precisiondrive.com> <1078824234.15308.27.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> Message-ID: <20040309171128.GE32385@lichen.truemesh.com> On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 11:13:17AM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > If user runs with selinx=0 in grub, then should user still see messages > about missing files etc, like the one I see whenever I run > rpm -[Ui] *.rpm? > > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: > No such file or directory Yes you will see that atm, don't panic. > That pathname is unknown to the most recent rpmdb-fedora. strange it's owned by policy-1.7-8 here rpm --dbpath /usr/lib/rpmdb/i386-redhat-linux/redhat -qf \ /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts Paul From fedora.core2 at chello.nl Tue Mar 9 18:12:54 2004 From: fedora.core2 at chello.nl (Hay Bouten) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:12:54 +0100 Subject: USB scanner not working In-Reply-To: <1078850033.17211.8.camel@study> References: <1078821268.1911.6.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> <1078842519.3277.23.camel@family> <404DD6F3.5080506@comcast.net> <1078850033.17211.8.camel@study> Message-ID: <1078855973.1922.18.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 17:33, Sandy Pond wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 09:38, Randy L Schrickel wrote: > > > > > > Anyway, mine had a line like "scsi EPSON" with the line "usb > > /dev/usb/scanner0" commented out. > > Are you using FC2 test1 because this didn't work for my epson scanner? > It did work for FC1, RH9, RH8 ... Yup..using FC2 100% up2date. > > I swapped them, commenting out the > > scsi line instead, and it worked. Your hp.conf probably has something > > similar, so try taking a look at that to make sure sane is looking in > > the right spot. My hp.conf now looks like: usb HP usb 0x03f0 0x0201 /dev/usb/scanner0 option connect-device When I start xsane it tells me: "no devices available" > On my rawhide updated FC2 test1 the /etc/sane.d/hp.conf has his scanner > list properly by usb vendor and model and "scanimage -L" finds his > scanner so I doubt this is the problem. I think so. In my /var/log/messages I read: kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using addess 3 usb.agent[3541]: ... no modules for USB product 3f0/201/100 This looks like there is no driver for my HP 6200c scanner? It has allways worked nice on RH9. Hay From csm at Lunar-Linux.org Tue Mar 9 18:16:09 2004 From: csm at Lunar-Linux.org (csm at Lunar-Linux.org) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:16:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: fedora amd64 core 1 nvidia driver In-Reply-To: <1078830219.6356.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1078830219.6356.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 make sure you "export CC=gcc32" before building the driver. On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, robbie williams spewed into the bitstream: rw>I have a geforce fx 5600 and a 5900 xt. I installed the official nvidia rw>amd64 linux driver and changed the xf86config to nvidia but when i boot rw>i get a garbled screen and a no go from there. I have to revert bact to rw>using the nv driver. Is anyone having any luck and if so could they rw>send me there config file and any tips. rw> rw>Thanks rw> rw> rw> - -- csm Lunar Linux Project Lead Disclaimer: "I am not a curmudgeon! No... really..." Addendum: "Bwahahaha! Fire up the orbital mind-control lasers!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFATgnrq3bny/5+GAcRApA2AJ9ZbOFzV5Cf1HwDuha6AlbLSiAquQCeNFlq jIWjsWFCLOMxnd84Wce71Kw= =Jc6q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From marian_kopala at wp.pl Tue Mar 9 18:32:35 2004 From: marian_kopala at wp.pl (Marian Kopala) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:32:35 +0100 Subject: Mustek 2400 TA Plus Message-ID: <1078857155.2233.1.camel@amigos> Welcome! Distribution: Fedora Core 2 Test 1 Scanner: Mustek 2400 TA Plus xsane not working? ----------------- IF: 1). $ sane-find-scanner # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure that # you have loaded a SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter. found USB scanner (vendor=0x055f, product=0x0219) at /dev/usb/scanner0 found USB scanner (vendor=0x055f, product=0x0219, chip=GT-6816?) at libusb:002:002 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. # Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports can't be # detected by this program. # You may want to run this program as root to find all devices. Once you # found the scanner devices, be sure to adjust access permissions as # necessary. 2). $ scanimage -L device `gt68xx:/dev/usb/scanner0' is a Mustek BearPaw 2400 TA Plus flatbed scanner THEN: 1) Download: http://www.meier-geinitz.de/sane/gt68xx-backend/A2Dfw.usb 2) su 3) mkdir /usr/share/sane/gt68xx 2) cp A2Dfw.usb /usr/share/sane/gt68xx xsane working! -------------- Regards, Marian From jurgen at botz.org Tue Mar 9 18:36:16 2004 From: jurgen at botz.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Botz?=) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 10:36:16 -0800 Subject: USB scanners are broken In-Reply-To: <404DF891.1040200@comcast.net> References: <1078821268.1911.6.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> <1078842519.3277.23.camel@family> <404DD6F3.5080506@comcast.net> <1078850033.17211.8.camel@study> <404DF891.1040200@comcast.net> Message-ID: <404E0EA0.2060207@botz.org> Randy L Schrickel wrote: > Sandy Pond wrote: >> Are you using FC2 test1 because this didn't work for my epson scanner? >> It did work for FC1, RH9, RH8 ... > > Yep. Fresh install from CD the day after it was released, with no > updates since Right. The usbscanner kernel module was removed after 2.6.1 (which is the kernel in the original FC2 Test 1). So in FC2t1 it still worked, thereafter USB scanners are broken. And they really should be considered /broken/. Although the usbscanner module was apparently removed with the idea that scanning should be done via the libusb thing, this seems to be not a mature, working solution at this point. Probably best thing for Fedora would be to add the usbscanner module back in with a kernel patch for now. :j -- J?rgen Botz | While differing widely in the various jurgen at botz.org | little bits we know, in our infinite | ignorance we are all equal. -Karl Popper From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Tue Mar 9 18:57:22 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, Forrest) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 10:57:22 -0800 Subject: LVM1 problems with FC2test1/FC1 Message-ID: <1078858642.2378.11.camel@ugly> A while back I did a fresh install of FC2test1 along-side a dual-boot FC1. In FC1 I created some LVM1 partitions before the FC2 installation. During the FC2 installation, I didn't format any of the logical volumes, but I used them to mount /home et al. In FC2, they work fine (after I figured out I have to run lvm ). I created a new logical volume in FC2 for a new project. However, if I boot back into FC1, I cannot mount the logical volumes. Doing a vgscan gives this error: vgscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...) vgscan -- found inactive volume group "Volume00" vgscan -- ERROR "pv_check_consistency_all_pv(): PE" volume group "Volume00" is inconsistent vgscan -- ERROR: unable to do a backup of volume group "Volume00" vgscan -- ERROR "lvm_tab_vg_remove(): unlink" removing volume group "Volume00" from "/etc/lvmtab" vgscan -- "/etc/lvmtab" and "/etc/lvmtab.d" successfully created vgscan -- WARNING: This program does not do a VGDA backup of your volume group Running vgck says that there are no volume groups. When I boot back into FC2, everything works fine. I am not sure if it was a problem before I created the logical volume, and I haven't had time to reinstall both OSes to find out. Does anyone have any ideas how to get LVM back in FC1? Thanks, Forrest From bpm at ec-group.com Tue Mar 9 19:14:53 2004 From: bpm at ec-group.com (Brian Millett) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:14:53 -0600 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: <20040309171128.GE32385@lichen.truemesh.com> References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> <404CF9D6.7090205@precisiondrive.com> <1078824234.15308.27.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <20040309171128.GE32385@lichen.truemesh.com> Message-ID: <20040309131453.0b95061e@shaka.ec-group.com> On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:11:29 +0000 Paul Nasrat wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 11:13:17AM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > If user runs with selinx=0 in grub, then should user still see > > messages about missing files etc, like the one I see whenever I run > > rpm -[Ui] *.rpm? > > > > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: > > No such file or directory > > Yes you will see that atm, don't panic. > > > That pathname is unknown to the most recent rpmdb-fedora. > > strange it's owned by policy-1.7-8 here Ok, well I do not have policy installed. I wonder how many other packages are needed for selinux that are not installed? Do you have a list? I guess it is not a dependency, or it would have been installed with the latest kernel. Thanks. -- Brian Millett - Technologist Rex "Ambassador, I've learned the hard way that governments deal in matters of convention, not conscience. If they fall behind, it is up to the rest of us to make up the difference. If we don't, who will?" -- Sheridan (to Delenn), "Acts of Sacrifice" From pete at madhippy.com Tue Mar 9 19:29:10 2004 From: pete at madhippy.com (Pete Robinson) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:29:10 +0000 Subject: libata - sata - SIS chipset. Message-ID: <1078860550.1829.25.camel@wendy> Recently bought a new system box - AMD64 3400, has SATA 200Gb HD - SIS 964 chipset. I've tried various recent (ie. the latest) releases including regular fedora and amd64 fedora, mandrake 9.2 amd64 and mandrake 10 - non of which have support for the SIS controller. http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html suggests that support for SIS should have been available since early March 2004 - too early to make it into any of the installers I've tried. (There appear to be some workarounds as mentioned on the link above.) Anyone know if libata is likely to make it into a fedora amd64 release soon? From kilpatds at oppositelock.org Tue Mar 9 19:29:12 2004 From: kilpatds at oppositelock.org (Douglas Kilpatrick) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 14:29:12 -0500 Subject: FC1 x86_64: LVM+RAID crashes under load Message-ID: <404E1B08.5010005@oppositelock.org> A box I'm playing with is crashing under moderately-serious postgres-generated load. The stack trace on the panic appears to implicate various disk subsystems, but the top of it has scrolled off the screen. Any known issues? Thoughts on how to debug it? I expect I'll remove LVM as an issue to start with, and if it still crashes remove RAID next. (FC1 for x86_64, updated as of last night, including the testing updates.) Doug -- kilpatds at oppositelock.org Outta Control Racing, Inc. From notting at redhat.com Tue Mar 9 19:31:14 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:31:14 -0500 Subject: FC1 x86_64 missing security updates In-Reply-To: <200403081834.07382.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403051807.04947.czar@czarc.net> <20040308165737.GA21390@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403081834.07382.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040309193114.GC7339@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Gene C. (czar at czarc.net) said: > On Monday 08 March 2004 11:57, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Gene C. (czar at czarc.net) said: > > > Two security updates for lftp and libxml2 previously issued for FC1 i386 > > > have not been incorporated into FC1 x86_64 or made available as updates. > > > > All missing updates should be cleaned up now. > > Close ... there are still a couple of outstanding issues: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117646 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117824 > > which involve perl not having the properly named directory expected by xchat > and spamassassin needing to be rebuilt with the updated perl. No, that's issues with the updates. All the updates are there. :) Bill From jkeating at j2solutions.net Tue Mar 9 19:39:20 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 11:39:20 -0800 Subject: libata - sata - SIS chipset. In-Reply-To: <1078860550.1829.25.camel@wendy> References: <1078860550.1829.25.camel@wendy> Message-ID: <200403091139.26168.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Tuesday 09 March 2004 11:29, Pete Robinson wrote: > Anyone know if libata is likely to make it into a fedora amd64 > release soon? It may make it into updated kernels, but will not be in the installer. Once the installer is rolled and released, it usually takes an act of congress* to re-roll it. *: Silly American saying that means it will take quite an undergoing to do something. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is this a sign that fedora is hiding too much behind right-clicks? On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 14:53, BC wrote: > I know this is a stupid question but where is the gnome config. I want to change to gnome's top panel rather than fedora's default bottom. How do I do it now ? > > BC -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 20:06:37 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:06:37 -0600 Subject: FC1 x86_64: LVM+RAID crashes under load In-Reply-To: <404E1B08.5010005@oppositelock.org> References: <404E1B08.5010005@oppositelock.org> Message-ID: <20040309200636.GB2188@comcast.net> On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:29:12PM -0500, Douglas Kilpatrick wrote: > > Any known issues? Thoughts on how to debug it? I expect I'll remove > LVM as an issue to start with, and if it still crashes remove RAID next. > Nothing I have seen, but if you could send me the oops info (should be in messages or dmesg if gone from screen). Also, detailed hardware specs, lspci -vv, and dmesg should give me a good start on tracking down the problem. Thanks, Justin From fedora at networklifeline.net Tue Mar 9 20:06:51 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:06:51 -0700 Subject: Gnome config Message-ID: <20040309200651.10197.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> Sorry I belong to multible lists and put this in the wrong one :-( No Fedora is doing GREAT !!! Just wanted ther panel to be more like ximian's with programs system help then icons like this : http://ximian.dulug.duke.edu/screenshots/large/hadess.png I knew I could move the existing panel up top. I was thinking this was a different gnome panel that Fedore ( redhat) customized. There use to be a way in RedHat to use a config tool to change the type of panel if I recall correctly. Thanks, BC > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Gnome config > From: "Will Backman" > Date: Tue, March 09, 2004 12:56 pm > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > Please take similar questions to fedora-list. > > Right-click (if mouse is set for right handed) on panel background, > choose properties. > > Is this a sign that fedora is hiding too much behind right-clicks? > > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 14:53, BC wrote: > > I know this is a stupid question but where is the gnome config. I > want to change to gnome's top panel rather than fedora's default > bottom. How do I do it now ? > > > > BC > -- > Will Backman > Coastal Enterprises, Inc. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 20:08:17 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:08:17 -0600 Subject: libata - sata - SIS chipset. In-Reply-To: <1078860550.1829.25.camel@wendy> References: <1078860550.1829.25.camel@wendy> Message-ID: <20040309200817.GC2188@comcast.net> On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:29:10PM +0000, Pete Robinson wrote: > Recently bought a new system box - AMD64 3400, has SATA 200Gb HD - SIS > 964 chipset. > > I've tried various recent (ie. the latest) releases including regular > fedora and amd64 fedora, mandrake 9.2 amd64 and mandrake 10 - non of > which have support for the SIS controller. > You are the first user I have seen with an SIS chipset, they were fairly late to ship. possible to send me a dmesg and lspci -vv. Dont know that it will help with your SATA problem, but I can do some looking around. Justin From kilpatds at oppositelock.org Tue Mar 9 20:39:47 2004 From: kilpatds at oppositelock.org (Douglas Kilpatrick) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:39:47 -0500 Subject: FC1 x86_64: LVM+RAID crashes under load In-Reply-To: <20040309200636.GB2188@comcast.net> References: <404E1B08.5010005@oppositelock.org> <20040309200636.GB2188@comcast.net> Message-ID: <404E2B93.2030906@oppositelock.org> > Nothing I have seen, but if you could send me the oops info (should be in > messages or dmesg if gone from screen). Also, detailed hardware specs, The box locks up solid on this crash, so the oops info doesn't have a chance to go anywhere. I can copy down the parts of it that are still on the screen, but its a deep stack trace, so important parts have scrolled off. I'll get you lspci/dmesg info this eve. Basically, Tyan Tiger K8W, dual 244s, High Point "RocketRAID" controller (1540, I think. The SATA controller on the MB not supported by Fedora yet). Video card is an NVidia, but I'm not running X and don't have the module loaded. Nothing else in any of the PCI slots. Didn't happen under the non-SMP kernel. Two hard drives, each w/ four partitions: swap, md2 (/boot), md1 (vg Mirror), md0 (vg Stripe). I'm jacking up the shmmax sysctl to allow pgbench to run. I don't remember the value off the top of my head. Running "pgbench -c 2 -t 16384" will cause the box to go off into no-man's land. (I've also noticed highly-variant performance w/ pgbench. when it doesn't lock. Sometimes it will pull 1900 tps, sometimes 150.) It does not crash when I boot the non-SMP kernel, and the benchmark results are much more stable. I've attached a file giving the postgres configuration / process for blowing the box up in more detail. Doug -- kilpatds at oppositelock.org Outta Control Racing, Inc. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: splat.txt URL: From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 9 21:18:07 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 09 Mar 2004 18:18:07 -0300 Subject: LVM1 problems with FC2test1/FC1 In-Reply-To: <1078858642.2378.11.camel@ugly> References: <1078858642.2378.11.camel@ugly> Message-ID: On Mar 9, 2004, "Taylor, Forrest" wrote: > Running vgck says that there are no volume groups. When I boot back > into FC2, everything works fine. Try vgcfgbackup/vgcfgrestore. This sometimes cleans up junk left by lvm2 tools. I've run into this kind of problem after lvreduce/lvremove IIRC. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Tue Mar 9 21:29:19 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, ForrestX) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 13:29:19 -0800 Subject: LVM1 problems with FC2test1/FC1 In-Reply-To: References: <1078858642.2378.11.camel@ugly> Message-ID: <1078867759.16233.26.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 13:18, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Mar 9, 2004, "Taylor, Forrest" wrote: > > > Running vgck says that there are no volume groups. When I boot back > > into FC2, everything works fine. > > Try vgcfgbackup/vgcfgrestore. This sometimes cleans up junk left by > lvm2 tools. I've run into this kind of problem after > lvreduce/lvremove IIRC. I just tried that. I restored from the original conf file (Volume00.conf.5.old). Now LVM works in FC1, but not in FC2. I tried to restore from the latest (Volume00.conf), but it says that it cannot restore part of active volume group "Volume00". It even gives this error if I try to use the original file again. BTW, I just installed FC2test1 with FC1 again on another machine. I didn't format any LVM partitions during installation. I can create LVM partitions in FC2 and FC1, and they both work... I'll try a format in anaconda to see if that may have been the problem. Forrest From Peter.Onion at btinternet.com Tue Mar 9 21:53:55 2004 From: Peter.Onion at btinternet.com (Peter Onion) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 21:53:55 +0000 Subject: Gnome config In-Reply-To: <1078862215.2782.12.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <20040309195301.4498.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> <1078862215.2782.12.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1078869235.2885.126.camel@Desktop.Wireless> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 19:56, Will Backman wrote: > Please take similar questions to fedora-list. > > Right-click (if mouse is set for right handed) on panel background, > choose properties. > > Is this a sign that fedora is hiding too much behind right-clicks? It's the same in SuSE 9.0 ! Peter From lewt at warcry.com Tue Mar 9 22:39:33 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 16:39:33 -0600 Subject: x86_64 Nforce 3 on FC1 forcedeth eth0 not starting. Message-ID: <404E47A5.7070902@warcry.com> Has anyone managed to get the ethernet to run on this release? Or would downloading the drivers onto a cd and loading it from there work? Thanks Corey From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 9 22:49:46 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:49:46 -0500 Subject: Gnome config In-Reply-To: <1078869235.2885.126.camel@Desktop.Wireless> References: <20040309195301.4498.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> <1078862215.2782.12.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <1078869235.2885.126.camel@Desktop.Wireless> Message-ID: <20040309224946.GC19215@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 09:53:55PM +0000, Peter Onion wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 19:56, Will Backman wrote: > > Please take similar questions to fedora-list. > > > > Right-click (if mouse is set for right handed) on panel background, > > choose properties. > > > > Is this a sign that fedora is hiding too much behind right-clicks? > > It's the same in SuSE 9.0 ! You can also left click on it and drag to any edge and the panel will switch to it (for Gnome avoid top->left/right as various applets really screw up their resizing) From mrsam at courier-mta.com Tue Mar 9 23:59:25 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 18:59:25 -0500 Subject: FC1 x86_64: LVM+RAID crashes under load References: <404E1B08.5010005@oppositelock.org> Message-ID: Douglas Kilpatrick writes: > A box I'm playing with is crashing under moderately-serious > postgres-generated load. The stack trace on the panic appears to > implicate various disk subsystems, but the top of it has scrolled off > the screen. > > Any known issues? Thoughts on how to debug it? I expect I'll remove > LVM as an issue to start with, and if it still crashes remove RAID next. Well, I can crash the kernel anytime I want (bug 116466), but it doesn't look like an LVM or RAID problem to me (I'm running RAID, but not LVM). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Wed Mar 10 00:07:40 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, ForrestX) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 16:07:40 -0800 Subject: LVM1 problems with FC2test1/FC1 In-Reply-To: <1078867759.16233.26.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> References: <1078858642.2378.11.camel@ugly> <1078867759.16233.26.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> Message-ID: <1078877260.16233.37.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 13:29, Taylor, ForrestX wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 13:18, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > On Mar 9, 2004, "Taylor, Forrest" wrote: > > > > > Running vgck says that there are no volume groups. When I boot back > > > into FC2, everything works fine. > > > > Try vgcfgbackup/vgcfgrestore. This sometimes cleans up junk left by > > lvm2 tools. I've run into this kind of problem after > > lvreduce/lvremove IIRC. > > I just tried that. I restored from the original conf file > (Volume00.conf.5.old). Now LVM works in FC1, but not in FC2. I tried > to restore from the latest (Volume00.conf), but it says that it cannot > restore part of active volume group "Volume00". It even gives this > error if I try to use the original file again. > > BTW, I just installed FC2test1 with FC1 again on another machine. I > didn't format any LVM partitions during installation. I can create LVM > partitions in FC2 and FC1, and they both work... I'll try a format in > anaconda to see if that may have been the problem. I cannot seem to replicate the problem now. I guess that it was just a weird quirk. Next time I'll try to restore/backup from the FC2 OS. Forrest From maxer1 at xmission.com Wed Mar 10 01:04:06 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 18:04:06 -0700 Subject: ATI Radeon Drivers can't use FC2 RPM kernels In-Reply-To: <404D8B65.8000300@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <20040309062212.3972.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> <404D8B65.8000300@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <404E6986.7070902@xmission.com> Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Mark Fonnemann wrote: > >> what doesn't work exactly? i doubt the talented people here (which >> certainly doesn't include myself) will be able to help you unless you >> are more >> specific. thanks.... >> >> mark. :-) > Here is my experience after successfully getting 2.4 kernels to work, I've never successfully seen ANY 2.6 kernel work. Step 1. Use the latest kernel. In my case kernel-2.6.3-2.1.242 Step 2. Download the latest - fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.1.i386.rpm Step 3. Remove the XFree86-Mesa-libGL - otherwise you won't get this driver to work. Step 4. rpm -ivh --nodeps fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.1.i386.rpm Step 5. Watch as the install fails to load 3D and tells you 2D is operational. Step 6. cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/ Step 7. Make sure your kernel source tree is available! a.) cd /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.242 b.) mv build build-old c.) ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.242 build Step 8. cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/ Step 9. export CC=gcc32 Step 10. make Step 11. Run fglrxconfig Step 12. Reboot Then watch as 2D driver loads and your XFree86.0.log reports the following:drmOpenDevice: Open failed [drm] failed to load kernel module "agpgart" [drm] failed to load kernel module "fglrx" (II) fglrx(0): [drm] drmOpen failed (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed! (WW) fglrx(0): *********************************************** (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * Have fun! Stick with 2.4 kernels they work 2.6 sucks with this driver. RaXeT From mharris at redhat.com Wed Mar 10 02:11:15 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:11:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: New package added to Fedora devel: xrestop - GUI X Resource monitoring tool. Message-ID: The GUI xrestop utility has been added to Fedora Core development. xrestop presents a 'top' like view of X resources. This utility can be used to determine what applications might be leaking X resources, or may be using a lot of X resources, all of which are stored in the X server, and thus affect the memory footprint of the X server - even though the resources belong to the applications themselves. Often, people look at the output of "top" or "ps" and mistakenly believe that the X server is using a horrendous amount of memory. The output of both of those programs is very inaccurate for the X server process, as the X server mmap's video memory, and I/O regions of the video hardware, ROM BIOSes, etc. all of which add into the memory shown by top/ps for the process, but which are not physical system RAM. This results in the mistaken belief that the X server uses a lot of memory, when in reality, the X server itself uses very little memory at all. Aside from the above problem, the other more frequent cause of the X server appearing to use a lot of memory, is applications allocating X resources. Some applications such as Mozilla, can use a LOT of pixmaps when viewing certain web pages, etc. which all end up stored in the X server until mozilla releases them or exits. If you visit a large webpage with hundreds of images, you'll quickly see your X server increase in size. Quit the web browser and you'll see the X server shrink again. Applications which leak X resources, end up causing the X server to bloat over time, until the application is killed - at which time the resources are freed. xrestop is a useful utility for tracking down X resource leakage problems and for helping both developers and end users alike to determine what exactly is causing their X server memory usage to increase. The overwhelming majority of all "my X server is leaking memory" bugs that get reported, almost always end up /not/ being X server bugs, but instead are applications leaking X resources, some of which are hard to find because they are part of the desktop environment itself, such as gnome-panel or similar. Please use xrestop when experiencing problems of this nature, to help pinpoint the true cause of the problems at hand, so that bugs can be filed to the appropriate buggy components in bugzilla. Now that there is a useful tool for helping track these types of issues down, please do not gang up on the X server with X resource utilization bugs. It is memory leak free, or we'd have to change the name of it to XMalloc86. ;o) /me runs to dodge the tomatoes Seriously though, please play with xrestop, and report any application resource leakage bugs you find in bugzilla. Thanks for testing! -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat From randysch at comcast.net Wed Mar 10 03:23:04 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:23:04 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <404E8A18.8000307@comcast.net> Daniel Roesen wrote: > Try: > ip -6 route del default dev eth0 > > and try wether you still get those timeouts. Ok, I did that. Hmmmm, interesting.... nslookup www.google.com 159.905296 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query A www.google.com 164.906050 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query A www.google.com 164.918972 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response CNAME www.google.akadns.net A 64.233.161.104 A 64.233.161.99 nslookup www.amazon.com199.788366 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query A www.amazon.com 199.800101 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response A 207.171.185.16 Definitely makes a difference for some (most?) web pages, but not all. cnn.com for instance took minutes to load, and spewed out hundreds of dns lines in my ethereal trace. lynx www.google.com 620.363071 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query AAAA www.google.com 620.374913 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response CNAME www.google.akadns.net 620.392936 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query A www.google.com 620.405477 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response CNAME www.google.akadns.net A 216.239.37.147 A 216.239.37.104 A 216.239.37.99 620.430031 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query AAAA www.google.com 625.432955 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query AAAA www.google.com 625.445163 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response CNAME www.google.akadns.net 625.445556 192.168.0.100 -> 68.54.80.5 DNS Standard query A www.google.com 625.469632 68.54.80.5 -> 192.168.0.100 DNS Standard query response CNAME www.google.akadns.net A 216.239.37.99 A 216.239.37.147 A 216.239.37.104 Removing that default route certainly has an effect - but it doesn't seem to be a consistent one. Does that output help? (really appreciate you (daniel) and whoever else actually takes the time to look at this!) Thanks, randy From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 10 03:29:22 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:29:22 -0400 Subject: VMware with FC2T1 Message-ID: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> Anyone have any luck getting VMware 4 to work against FC2 Test 1? I downloaded and ran vmware-any-any-update53.tar.gz as suggested in numerous places, and I do have kernel-source installed (I'm running the latest dev kernel, kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246). vmware-config.pl keeps complaining about not being able to find '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.246/include/linux/version.h', which, indeed, does not appear to exist. Any success stories? Am I doing something incredibly dumb? (It's certainly a possibility!!!) Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Wed Mar 10 03:33:55 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:33:55 -0500 Subject: kernel-2.6.3.1.1.246 686 Message-ID: I just update my system with 347 package in clude the new kernel. after a reboot I got the following error mount fs type rpc-pipefs not supported by kernel netfs: Mounting other filesystem fail firstboot failed From gabhroo_99 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 03:38:53 2004 From: gabhroo_99 at yahoo.com (gabhroo_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:38:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: FC2: up2date conflicts In-Reply-To: <1078848456.5640.6.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> Message-ID: <20040310033853.58609.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> I have the same issue. don't know how to get it work --- Craig Tinson wrote: > well.. thought I'd give it a go.. been waiting to > have a play with the > 2.6 kernel for a while and this seemed like a good > time.. > > so I downloaded the 4 iso's.. installed this > morning.. and looking good > so far :) (and it might just be me but it seems a > *lot* faster than RH9) > > now.. up2date says there are 1454'ish updates.. so I > went to run it.. > > it comes up with unresolvable dependencies for balsa > and redhat-lsb.. I > removed balsa from the update list.. but redhat-lsb > isn't getting > installed (not listed).. it says is requires > /usr/bin/kill .. kill isn't > getting updated either.. so I can't figure out how > to get the update > running.. > > seeing as the kde 3.2 and the kernel 2.6.3 are > getting installed I'd > call this the whole point of installing FC2 in the > first place so am > eager to get the updates going.. > > so has anyone any ideas on how to resolve this? > > TIA > > Craig > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From anthony.seward at ieee.org Wed Mar 10 04:00:29 2004 From: anthony.seward at ieee.org (Anthony Joseph Seward) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 21:00:29 -0700 Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> Message-ID: <1078891229.4843.6.camel@sonylap1> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 23:29 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > Anyone have any luck getting VMware 4 to work against FC2 Test 1? I > downloaded and ran vmware-any-any-update53.tar.gz as suggested in > numerous places, and I do have kernel-source installed (I'm running the > latest dev kernel, kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246). > I've been able to compile the modules for the latest beta on all of the FC2 kernels that I've tried so far (after having applied the update you mention, of course). You do not need the kernel-source rpm to compile modules for the 2.6 kernels. > vmware-config.pl keeps complaining about not being able to find > '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.246/include/linux/version.h', which, indeed, > does not appear to exist. > It should be looking for /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.246/build/include/linux/version.h, which is part of the kernel rpm. > Any success stories? Am I doing something incredibly dumb? (It's > certainly a possibility!!!) > > Ben > -- > Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 > http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Tony -- Anthony Joseph Seward From efthym at gmx.net Wed Mar 10 04:23:28 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:23:28 -0500 Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> Message-ID: No problems on this side. Just installed .246 , and updated from any-any-update51 to update53. Compiled the modules and everything works. I only have the kernel-source rpm for version 246. I also checked and both /usr/src/linux-XXX/include/linux/version.h and /lib/modules/XXX/build/include/linux/version.h are there. On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:29:22 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > Anyone have any luck getting VMware 4 to work against FC2 Test 1? I > downloaded and ran vmware-any-any-update53.tar.gz as suggested in > numerous places, and I do have kernel-source installed (I'm running the > latest dev kernel, kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246). > > vmware-config.pl keeps complaining about not being able to find > '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.246/include/linux/version.h', which, indeed, > does not appear to exist. > > Any success stories? Am I doing something incredibly dumb? (It's > certainly a possibility!!!) > > Ben From wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu Wed Mar 10 04:33:48 2004 From: wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (Wes Shull) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:33:48 -0700 Subject: tvtime =?iso-8859-1?q?=A0vs?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_=A0xawtv?= In-Reply-To: <20040309143701.5604.69870.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040309143701.5604.69870.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403092133.50502.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> (this is a copy of the comment I tacked onto Shrek's bugzilla #117651) I agree that FC2 should include both xawtv and tvtime. There are several reasons why Shrek may be getting suboptimal performance out of tvtime. The reason tvtime looks so good (when the system can handle it) is that it can apply some very nice deinterlacing algorithms to the video before displaying it. This leads to a big tree of performance dependencies: -> it has to run in capture mode instead of overlay mode (tvtime does not support overlay mode at all) -> greater I/O load since all the data is going through the CPU -> your card and driver have to support and use DMA or you're not going be able to get reasonable framerates at any resolution (a common failure mode is like what you're seeing; the CPU hasn't finished copying one frame before it's time for the next, so you get "tearing" where the image becomes the next frame, or just garbage) -> greater CPU load from -> postprocessing (depends on which deinterlacing mode you have selected) -> video output (especially if your display card/driver doesn't support Xv) >From the ultra-low cpu utilization in Shrek's xawtv ps, I'm guessing he's running xawtv in overlay mode? ... Anyway the point is, it's normal for tvtime to use more cpu than xawtv. In fact, I'm not sure I believe the person who said tvtime uses *less* cpu on his sytem, unless he's running xawtv in capture mode for some reason. -- rawhide hasn't eaten my babies yet, but it did eat my .sig From wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu Wed Mar 10 04:41:06 2004 From: wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (Wes Shull) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:41:06 -0700 Subject: FC1 x86_64: LVM+RAID crashes under load In-Reply-To: <20040310032709.14565.7694.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040310032709.14565.7694.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403092141.06152.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Douglas Kilpatrick wrote: > A box I'm playing with is crashing under moderately-serious > postgres-generated load. ?The stack trace on the panic appears to > implicate various disk subsystems, but the top of it has scrolled off > the screen. You probably already knew this, but doing resizecons -lines 50 might let you catch more of the message. -- (And what's up with all the rebuilt .1 packages in rawhide? 800 updates???) From ben.halicki at macquarietextiles.com.au Wed Mar 10 04:50:59 2004 From: ben.halicki at macquarietextiles.com.au (Ben Halicki) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:50:59 +1100 Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE References: <20040309062212.3972.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> <404D8B65.8000300@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <404E6986.7070902@xmission.com> Message-ID: <010801c4065b$480bf3f0$a2cd04cb@dit03> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RaXeT" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:04 PM Subject: Re: ATI Radeon Drivers can't use FC2 RPM kernels > Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > > > Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > > >> what doesn't work exactly? i doubt the talented people here (which > >> certainly doesn't include myself) will be able to help you unless you > >> are more > >> specific. thanks.... > >> > >> mark. :-) > > > Here is my experience after successfully getting 2.4 kernels to work, > I've never successfully seen ANY 2.6 kernel work. > > Step 1. Use the latest kernel. In my case kernel-2.6.3-2.1.242 > Step 2. Download the latest - fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.1.i386.rpm > Step 3. Remove the XFree86-Mesa-libGL - otherwise you won't get this > driver to work. > Step 4. rpm -ivh --nodeps fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.1.i386.rpm > Step 5. Watch as the install fails to load 3D and tells you 2D is > operational. > Step 6. cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/ > Step 7. Make sure your kernel source tree is available! > a.) cd /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.242 > b.) mv build build-old > c.) ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.242 build > Step 8. cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/ > Step 9. export CC=gcc32 > Step 10. make > Step 11. Run fglrxconfig > Step 12. Reboot > > Then watch as 2D driver loads and your XFree86.0.log reports the > following:drmOpenDevice: Open failed > [drm] failed to load kernel module "agpgart" > [drm] failed to load kernel module "fglrx" > (II) fglrx(0): [drm] drmOpen failed > (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed! > (WW) fglrx(0): *********************************************** > (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * > (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * > (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * > > Have fun! Stick with 2.4 kernels they work 2.6 sucks with this driver. > > RaXeT > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu Wed Mar 10 05:10:12 2004 From: wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (Wes Shull) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:10:12 -0700 Subject: need help In-Reply-To: <20040309143701.5604.69870.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040309143701.5604.69870.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403092210.12582.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> "Gene C." wrote: > come up with the answer ... pci=off nodma [...] > I do not understand why Red Hat and Fedora systems need this and the other > distributions do not -- Mandrake 9.2, Gentoo 1.4, SuSE 9.0, SuSE LivEval > (bootable cdrom), knoppix (Debian based bootable cdrom). > > There is scant information in the kernel Documentation so I am not exactly > sure just what these boot parameters do. Resources for kernel bootparams: * man 7 bootparam (ancient, says 2.1.21 at the bottom!) * kernel-parameters.txt in the kernel-doc package (I think that's what you're talking about above?) * http://www.ibiblio.org/mdw/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO.html None of those explain the bare "nodma" but I seem to remember this coming up a lot around the time that FC2T1 was released (I'd search the archives IF THE FREAKING SEARCH WORKED)... IIRC it disables use of DMA for (at least) ATAPI CD-ROM drives, some of which freak out or return corrupt data when using DMA. Apparently nodma was the default in FC1 and earlier installers, and other distros... forgot if it was accidental or intentional that FC2T1 wasn't the same. I'm sure that if anything I said above was incorrect someone will jump in and set things straight ;-) -- Redhat-types, why isn't the archive search working? If you guys don't have time to fix it, I'm sure someone here can do it for you... From stevewa at spiritone.com Wed Mar 10 05:14:30 2004 From: stevewa at spiritone.com (Steve Ward) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 21:14:30 -0800 Subject: ATI Radeon drivers can't use RPM kernels In-Reply-To: <20040310032709.14565.7694.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040310032709.14565.7694.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <404EA436.4020505@spiritone.com> The statement in the previous posting that the ATI proprietary driver doesn't work with the RH provided 2.6 for Fedora is correct. In fact, you can't even build against Arjan's RPMs because he compiled in the agpgart drivers instead of making them modules. If you take Arjan's kernel-source RPM and recompile with the agp drivers as modules, you can build the fglrx driver, but it oopses on load. If you take the vanilla Linus 2.6.3, use Arjan's .config file (after changing the agp drivers to modules) you can build and use the fglrx driver without difficulty. (note this all done on FC1 as I have not yet upgraded my desktop machine to FC2-test ... will try after test2 isos come out). (note2 I'm using the kernel-provided agpgart, not the one built into ATI's driver, as theirs doesn't support my oddball Via P4X400 chipset) glxgears reports 3687.600 FPS on a 2.53GHz P4B. From efthym at gmx.net Wed Mar 10 05:10:21 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 00:10:21 -0500 Subject: kernel-2.6.3.1.1.246 686 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I got the same message running 2.6.3-2.1.246custom . If I modprobe nfs, the module loads correctly together with lockd and sunrpc. Then mount /var/lib/rpc-pipes works. What I don't understand is why it gets loaded at the first place. All the services for NFS are disabled at startup.I'm not sure though if the line in fstab was there before. I guess thats why it tries to mount at startup. On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:33:55 -0500, alton bailey wrote: > I just update my system with 347 package in clude the new kernel. > after a reboot I got the following error > > mount fs type rpc-pipefs not supported by kernel > > netfs: Mounting other filesystem fail > > firstboot failed > > From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Wed Mar 10 05:22:51 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 00:22:51 -0500 Subject: Firstboot fails with syntax error Message-ID: <20040310052251.GA19300@wolves.durham.nc.us> Seeing all the 408+ updates, I figured it would be a time to try a complete install from the development tree. After rsync'ing my mirror, I burned boot.iso to a CDRW and began. Anaconda and an HTTP install worked fine. There are still a bunch of avc messages during the boot process. Firstboot failed. Running it from the console yeilds: ------------------------- [root at tembo root]# firstboot Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/firstboot/firstboot.py", line 27, in ? import firstbootBackend File "/usr/share/firstboot/firstbootBackend.py", line 22 def chkconfigOff() ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax [root at tembo root]# ------------------------- Someone else mentioned "rpc_pipefs not supported by this kernel" There is also a Keyboard configuration error during the graphical login process. I have no way to capture the output of that error, but it seems to be complaining about XKB failing. The keyboard works afterwards and the "hwbrowser" reports most things fine. My "fdomain" SCSI is detected fine and the module is properly inserted during boot. My CMI8330 sound card is still not detected correctly. My 3c509 (Etherlink III) is not detected either by anaconda or during boot. I have to hand configure it in system-config-network. Off I go to bugzilla. -- Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury `-_-' Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us U RHCT August 2003 "The Line Eater is a boojum snark." Hug your wolf. From ben.halicki at macquarietextiles.com.au Wed Mar 10 05:26:21 2004 From: ben.halicki at macquarietextiles.com.au (Ben Halicki) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:26:21 +1100 Subject: how to unsubscribe!! References: <20040309143701.5604.69870.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> <200403092210.12582.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Message-ID: <000f01c40660$38c86220$a2cd04cb@dit03> Hi all, how do i unsubscribe from this list?! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Shull" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:10 PM Subject: Re: need help > "Gene C." wrote: > > > come up with the answer ... pci=off nodma > [...] > > I do not understand why Red Hat and Fedora systems need this and the > other > > distributions do not -- Mandrake 9.2, Gentoo 1.4, SuSE 9.0, SuSE > LivEval > > (bootable cdrom), knoppix (Debian based bootable cdrom). > > > > There is scant information in the kernel Documentation so I am not > exactly > > sure just what these boot parameters do. > > Resources for kernel bootparams: > * man 7 bootparam (ancient, says 2.1.21 at the bottom!) > * kernel-parameters.txt in the kernel-doc package (I think that's what > you're talking about above?) > * http://www.ibiblio.org/mdw/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO.html > > None of those explain the bare "nodma" but I seem to remember this > coming up a lot around the time that FC2T1 was released (I'd search > the archives IF THE FREAKING SEARCH WORKED)... IIRC it disables use > of DMA for (at least) ATAPI CD-ROM drives, some of which freak out or > return corrupt data when using DMA. Apparently nodma was the default > in FC1 and earlier installers, and other distros... forgot if it was > accidental or intentional that FC2T1 wasn't the same. > > I'm sure that if anything I said above was incorrect someone will jump > in and set things straight ;-) > > -- > Redhat-types, why isn't the archive search working? If you guys don't > have time to fix it, I'm sure someone here can do it for you... > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From fedora.core2 at chello.nl Wed Mar 10 08:28:37 2004 From: fedora.core2 at chello.nl (fedora.core2 at chello.nl) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 9:28:37 +0100 Subject: USB scanners are broken Message-ID: <20040310082837.KYMF8742.amsfep18-int.chello.nl@localhost> Jurgen wrote: > Right. The usbscanner kernel module was removed after 2.6.1 (which > is the kernel in the original FC2 Test 1). So in FC2t1 it still > worked, thereafter USB scanners are broken. > > And they really should be considered /broken/. Although the > usbscanner module was apparently removed with the idea that > scanning should be done via the libusb thing, this seems to > be not a mature, working solution at this point. Probably > best thing for Fedora would be to add the usbscanner module > back in with a kernel patch for now. > Yes please!!!! I need a working scanner under FC2. If usblib is unstable then we need a usbscanner module in the kernel. Hay From alexl at redhat.com Wed Mar 10 08:33:38 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 10 Mar 2004 09:33:38 +0100 Subject: Gnome config In-Reply-To: <20040309200651.10197.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040309200651.10197.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1078907618.29202.662.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 21:06, BC wrote: > Sorry I belong to multible lists and put this in the wrong one :-( > > No Fedora is doing GREAT !!! > > Just wanted ther panel to be more like ximian's with programs system help then icons like this : > > http://ximian.dulug.duke.edu/screenshots/large/hadess.png > > I knew I could move the existing panel up top. I was thinking this was a different gnome panel that Fedore ( redhat) customized. There use to be a way in RedHat to use a config tool to change the type of panel if I recall correctly. No its not. Just make it 16 pixels high and add a menu bar applet to it. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a globe-trotting sweet-toothed werewolf who hangs with the wrong crowd. She's a vivacious red-headed angel with the soul of a mighty warrior. They fight crime! From pcaulfie at redhat.com Wed Mar 10 08:59:30 2004 From: pcaulfie at redhat.com (Patrick Caulfield) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:59:30 +0000 Subject: Minor niggle with CUPS Message-ID: <20040310085930.GB24451@tykepenguin.com> The Info field for all printers created by print manager is "Created by redhat-config-printer 0.6.x". This is less than helpful when viewing shared printers on a Mac running OS/X as that seems to be the field it chooses to display ! Is there any chance of making the Info field more desciptive of the printer ? -- patrick From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed Mar 10 09:22:43 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 04:22:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: VMware with FC2T1 Message-ID: <9205428.1078910563546.JavaMail.root@wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:29:22 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > Anyone have any luck getting VMware 4 to work against FC2 Test 1? I > downloaded and ran vmware-any-any-update53.tar.gz as suggested in > numerous places, and I do have kernel-source installed (I'm running the > latest dev kernel, kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246). > > vmware-config.pl keeps complaining about not being able to find > '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.246/include/linux/version.h', which, indeed, > does not appear to exist. if history is any guide, if you've done a serious clean of the kernel source tree (like with "make mrproper"), the include/linux/version.h file is removed. it's regenerated once you do any kind of "make ???config". or you should just be able to do "make include/linux/version.h" to regenerate that file. rday From rodaz at diku.dk Wed Mar 10 09:28:57 2004 From: rodaz at diku.dk (Bjarke Buur Mortensen) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:28:57 +0100 Subject: Boottime fsck says "already mounted" and drops me to a shell Message-ID: <1078910936.1566.21.camel@bjarke.localdomain> Hi list, (sorry if this has been covered before, I'm new to the list) After upgrading from Redhat 9 to Fedora 1.90, I'm always being dropped to a shell while booting. fsck complains that my root partition is already mounted and bails, and then I'm asked to give the root password. I have upgraded from rh9 to fedora using apt-get, so maybe something has gone wrong in the process. While I kept my old redhat kernel, the boot process worked fine, so can someone tell me what is going on? regards, /Bjarke ps: I can boot my system if I touch /fastboot, but obviously this is not satisfactory in the long run. -- Bjarke Buur Mortensen From twaugh at redhat.com Wed Mar 10 09:31:06 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:31:06 +0000 Subject: Minor niggle with CUPS In-Reply-To: <20040310085930.GB24451@tykepenguin.com> References: <20040310085930.GB24451@tykepenguin.com> Message-ID: <20040310093105.GQ22468@redhat.com> On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:59:30AM +0000, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > The Info field for all printers created by print manager is > "Created by redhat-config-printer 0.6.x". > > This is less than helpful when viewing shared printers on a Mac > running OS/X as that seems to be the field it chooses to display ! > Is there any chance of making the Info field more desciptive of the > printer ? The reason is does this is that queues created by the GUI tool need to be marked in some way as belonging to it -- this is so that when queues are deleted they stand a chance of getting cleaned up. If we had a GUI tool that was not tied to alchemist this wouldn't be an issue. Please file a bug in bugzilla about this, to remind me to think of other possible ways to deal with it. Thanks, Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From craig at 8010.co.uk Wed Mar 10 09:45:45 2004 From: craig at 8010.co.uk (Craig Tinson) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:45:45 +0000 Subject: up2date failed.. trying yum.. Message-ID: <1078911945.15788.32.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> hey guys.. after my initial problem yesterday of the linux-lsb and balsa updates.. I got that resolved.. I got up2date downloading the rest of the updates (1.9Gb) in 1466 updates.. *chuckles* after it did all that.. this morning, before it installed them.. it crashed.. so.. I tried it through the console: "up2date --nox -u --exclude=balsa" at least this uses the 1.9Gb already downloaded.. however it fails with: "python: rpmio_internal.h:497: c2f: Assertion `fd && fd->magic == 0x04463138' failed." so am stuck.. I had an idea of using yum instead but I don't want to have to download another 1.9Gb.. lol I was wondering if I could just copy the contents of /var/spool/up2date into the /var/cache/yum directories.. the rpm's in packages and the . hdr's into the headers dir.. or is this too simplistic and wishful thinking? lol If not does anyone have any other suggestions? TIA Craig From pcaulfie at redhat.com Wed Mar 10 10:09:18 2004 From: pcaulfie at redhat.com (Patrick Caulfield) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:09:18 +0000 Subject: Minor niggle with CUPS In-Reply-To: <20040310093105.GQ22468@redhat.com> References: <20040310085930.GB24451@tykepenguin.com> <20040310093105.GQ22468@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040310100918.GA25256@tykepenguin.com> On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:31:06AM +0000, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:59:30AM +0000, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > > > The Info field for all printers created by print manager is > > "Created by redhat-config-printer 0.6.x". > > > > This is less than helpful when viewing shared printers on a Mac > > running OS/X as that seems to be the field it chooses to display ! > > Is there any chance of making the Info field more desciptive of the > > printer ? > > The reason is does this is that queues created by the GUI tool need to > be marked in some way as belonging to it -- this is so that when > queues are deleted they stand a chance of getting cleaned up. If we > had a GUI tool that was not tied to alchemist this wouldn't be an > issue. > > Please file a bug in bugzilla about this, to remind me to think of > other possible ways to deal with it. OK, thanks. I've had to hand-edit the /etc/cups/printer.conf file so I can distinguish between my printers for the moment. I don't intend deleting them but I'll try to remember if I do, that it might not happen! -- patrick From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed Mar 10 10:22:55 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:22:55 +0100 Subject: up2date failed.. trying yum.. In-Reply-To: <1078911945.15788.32.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> References: <1078911945.15788.32.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> Message-ID: <404EEC7F.1030602@gmx.de> Craig Tinson wrote: >I had an idea of using yum instead but I don't want to have to download >another 1.9Gb.. lol > >I was wondering if I could just copy the contents of /var/spool/up2date >into the /var/cache/yum directories.. the rpm's in packages and the . >hdr's into the headers dir.. or is this too simplistic and wishful >thinking? lol > > i do not know >If not does anyone have any other suggestions? > > if you really have all the rpm?s eg. # up2date --configure (keep the packages after installation) # up2date-nox -d $ wget -cr ftp|http://url/to/develoment i would prefer rpm eg. # rpm -Fvh /path/to/rpm be carefully with kernel, glibc $ rpm -qa --qf "%{arch} %{name}\n" | grep -i "kernel\|glibc" i386 glibc-devel i386 glibc-common i386 glibc-kernheaders i686 glibc i386 kernel-pcmcia-cs i386 glibc-headers athlon kernel i386 kernel-utils i386 kernel-source -- shrek-m From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed Mar 10 10:44:54 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:44:54 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <200403092133.50502.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> References: <20040309143701.5604.69870.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> <200403092133.50502.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Message-ID: <404EF1A6.2000203@gmx.de> Wes Shull wrote: >>From the ultra-low cpu utilization in Shrek's xawtv ps, I'm guessing >he's running xawtv in overlay mode? > > ;-) even if xawtv is not in overlay-mode it is not so cpu-hungry like tvtime -- shrek-m From ksrbwmjt at tin.it Wed Mar 10 11:02:13 2004 From: ksrbwmjt at tin.it (ksrbwmjt at tin.it) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:02:13 +0100 Subject: code Message-ID: <4043C741000085AF@ims3b.cp.tin.it> Hello, i dont remember my personal code, can you help me? Bye Mariano casagrande email ksrbwmjt at tin.it From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed Mar 10 11:13:42 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:13:42 +0100 Subject: code In-Reply-To: <4043C741000085AF@ims3b.cp.tin.it> References: <4043C741000085AF@ims3b.cp.tin.it> Message-ID: <404EF866.6070509@gmx.de> ksrbwmjt at tin.it wrote: >Hello, i dont remember my personal code, can you help me? >Bye >Mariano casagrande email ksrbwmjt at tin.it > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list [edit options] [email my password to me] -- shrek-m From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 10 13:24:34 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:24:34 -0400 Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <9205428.1078910563546.JavaMail.root@wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> References: <9205428.1078910563546.JavaMail.root@wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1078925074.27947.8.camel@zephyr> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 05:22, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:29:22 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > > vmware-config.pl keeps complaining about not being able to find > > '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.246/include/linux/version.h', which, indeed, > > does not appear to exist. > > if history is any guide, if you've done a serious clean of the kernel source > tree (like with "make mrproper"), the include/linux/version.h file is removed. > it's regenerated once you do any kind of "make ???config". > > or you should just be able to do "make include/linux/version.h" to regenerate > that file. That's interesting. With the 2.4 kernels, I could just install the kernel-source package, run vmware-config.pl, and be off to the races. Is there any documentation outlining the differences between the packaging methodologies/strategies used in the Fedora 2.4 kernel-source packages vs. the 2.6 kernel-source packages? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed Mar 10 13:40:00 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:40:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1078925074.27947.8.camel@zephyr> References: <9205428.1078910563546.JavaMail.root@wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> <1078925074.27947.8.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 05:22, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:29:22 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > > > vmware-config.pl keeps complaining about not being able to find > > > '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.246/include/linux/version.h', which, indeed, > > > does not appear to exist. > > > > if history is any guide, if you've done a serious clean of the kernel source > > tree (like with "make mrproper"), the include/linux/version.h file is removed. > > it's regenerated once you do any kind of "make ???config". > > > > or you should just be able to do "make include/linux/version.h" to regenerate > > that file. > > That's interesting. With the 2.4 kernels, I could just install the > kernel-source package, run vmware-config.pl, and be off to the races. > > Is there any documentation outlining the differences between the > packaging methodologies/strategies used in the Fedora 2.4 kernel-source > packages vs. the 2.6 kernel-source packages? ok, here's my understanding, and i'm sure i'll screw it up somewhere. if you have any build that requires inclusion of the file "include/linux/version.h", then you need the kernel source tree on your system somewhere, and you have to make sure that file exists in the kernel source tree; that is, you must have done at least a minimal config for that file to have been generated. now, rather than having to point at the kernel source tree directly, the recommended(?) strategy is to use the symlink that you'll find under /lib/modules//build for the currently running kernel, is that about right? this gives you the flexibility of installing the kernel source tree elsewhere from /usr/src, and /lib/modules will keep track of where that source tree is using that symlink. personally, i install all my kernel source trees under my regular home directory, so i can configure and build them as a regular user. comments? rday From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 10 13:49:57 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:49:57 -0500 Subject: 2.6.3-2.1.246 xfs Message-ID: WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.246/unsupported/fs/xfs/xfs.ko needs unknown symbol filemap_flush From craig at 8010.co.uk Wed Mar 10 13:50:39 2004 From: craig at 8010.co.uk (Craig Tinson) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:50:39 +0000 Subject: png problems In-Reply-To: <404EEC7F.1030602@gmx.de> References: <1078911945.15788.32.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> <404EEC7F.1030602@gmx.de> Message-ID: <404F1D2F.2030302@8010.co.uk> > > i would prefer rpm > eg. > # rpm -Fvh /path/to/rpm > > now.. why didn't I think of that??? lol (thanks shrek!) ok.. got it.. we're all nicely updated (apart from balsa but will fix that some other time) now.. next question... gnome is screwed.. kde *kinda* works but most of the icons/buttons are all messed up.. all I can find in the logs are hundreds off "Couldn't recognise the image file format for file.../path/to/some/png/file" I've checked to see libpng is installed... ----------------- [root at craig craig]# rpm -qa | grep png libpng10-1.0.13-10.1 libpng-devel-1.2.2-19.1 libpng10-devel-1.0.13-10.1 libpng-1.2.2-19.1 [root at craig craig]# ----------------- I don't understand why there's 2 versions there but am presuming it's either *supposed* to be like that.. or more likely they are conflicting which is causing this problem... Am I right? if so should I just uninstall one of the versions? or will that royally screw things up further? and if so which one to remove? This is even affecting gdm so am having to boot to text login.. switch to kde and then go from there.. Thanks for any suggestions.. Craig From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed Mar 10 13:59:47 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:59:47 -0500 Subject: USB scanners are broken In-Reply-To: <20040310082837.KYMF8742.amsfep18-int.chello.nl@localhost> References: <20040310082837.KYMF8742.amsfep18-int.chello.nl@localhost> Message-ID: <1078927187.3340.11.camel@family> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 09:28 +0100, fedora.core2 at chello.nl wrote: > Jurgen wrote: > > Right. The usbscanner kernel module was removed after 2.6.1 (which > > is the kernel in the original FC2 Test 1). So in FC2t1 it still > > worked, thereafter USB scanners are broken. > Probably > > best thing for Fedora would be to add the usbscanner module > > back in with a kernel patch for now. > > > > Yes please!!!! I need a working scanner under FC2. > > If usblib is unstable then we need a usbscanner module in the kernel. I think it works ... it works for me ... but setup is a problem. However, I agree that they should restore the old support if they can't get the new setup functioning better (more transparent). Also, they should do this soon so that FC2 can stabilize. From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 10 14:07:14 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:07:14 -0400 Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1078891229.4843.6.camel@sonylap1> References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078891229.4843.6.camel@sonylap1> Message-ID: <1078927634.27947.12.camel@zephyr> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 00:00, Anthony Joseph Seward wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 23:29 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > > > Anyone have any luck getting VMware 4 to work against FC2 Test 1? I > > downloaded and ran vmware-any-any-update53.tar.gz as suggested in > > numerous places, and I do have kernel-source installed (I'm running the > > latest dev kernel, kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246). > > > > I've been able to compile the modules for the latest beta on all of the > FC2 kernels that I've tried so far (after having applied the update you > mention, of course). > > You do not need the kernel-source rpm to compile modules for the 2.6 > kernels. > > > vmware-config.pl keeps complaining about not being able to find > > '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.246/include/linux/version.h', which, indeed, > > does not appear to exist. > > > > It should be looking for > /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.246/build/include/linux/version.h, which is part > of the kernel rpm. OK -- I *am* dumb. Now that I'm using the right directory, it's still complaining: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.246/build/include The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the same address space size as your running kernel. ...this is very odd, since I just re-installed the kernel package. Would the fact that I'm running an Athlon XP cause this? I don't think so, but I'm running out of things to blame besides my own stupidity. Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed Mar 10 14:15:41 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:15:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1078927634.27947.12.camel@zephyr> References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078891229.4843.6.camel@sonylap1> <1078927634.27947.12.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 00:00, Anthony Joseph Seward wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 23:29 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > > > > > Anyone have any luck getting VMware 4 to work against FC2 Test 1? I > > > downloaded and ran vmware-any-any-update53.tar.gz as suggested in > > > numerous places, and I do have kernel-source installed (I'm running the > > > latest dev kernel, kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246). > > > > > > > I've been able to compile the modules for the latest beta on all of the > > FC2 kernels that I've tried so far (after having applied the update you > > mention, of course). > > > > You do not need the kernel-source rpm to compile modules for the 2.6 > > kernels. > > > > > vmware-config.pl keeps complaining about not being able to find > > > '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.246/include/linux/version.h', which, indeed, > > > does not appear to exist. > > > > > > > It should be looking for > > /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.246/build/include/linux/version.h, which is part > > of the kernel rpm. it is? maybe with the 2.6 kernel, but on my current FC1 system, if i have an installed 2.4 kernel binary rpm, then the symlink /lib/modules//build points at where the kernel source tree would *normally* exist -- that is, under /usr/src. if the kernel source is not installed, that link exists but points at nothing. is this different with 2.6? (sorry, i'm not at a system i can test this.) are you saying that if i have no 2.6 kernel source tree, then the file version.h will exist under /lib/modules? does that mean that build is no longer a symlink? what's going on under that directory? rday From alan at redhat.com Wed Mar 10 14:33:27 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:33:27 -0500 Subject: tvtime =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0vs_=A0xawtv?= In-Reply-To: <200403092133.50502.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> References: <20040309143701.5604.69870.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> <200403092133.50502.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Message-ID: <20040310143327.GA4548@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 09:33:48PM -0700, Wes Shull wrote: > Anyway the point is, it's normal for tvtime to use more cpu than > xawtv. In fact, I'm not sure I believe the person who said tvtime > uses *less* cpu on his sytem, unless he's running xawtv in capture > mode for some reason. Is there a reason tvtime doesnt fall back on lower powered hardware or when it keeps realising it misses frames ? From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed Mar 10 14:36:40 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:36:40 +0100 Subject: png problems In-Reply-To: <404F1D2F.2030302@8010.co.uk> References: <1078911945.15788.32.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> <404EEC7F.1030602@gmx.de> <404F1D2F.2030302@8010.co.uk> Message-ID: <404F27F8.5040506@gmx.de> Craig Tinson wrote: > now.. next question... gnome is screwed.. kde *kinda* works but most of > the icons/buttons are all messed up.. > > all I can find in the logs are hundreds off "Couldn't recognise the > image file format for file.../path/to/some/png/file" > [...] > This is even affecting gdm so am having to boot to text login.. switch > to kde and then go from there.. you are sure that libpng* is the problem ? $ rpm -qil gdm | less $ rpm -qf /usr/share/gdm /usr/share/icons ... $ rpm -Vf /usr/share/gdm /usr/share/icons ... # rpm -Uvh --replacefiles --replacepkgs -- shrek-m From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 10 14:37:50 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:37:50 -0400 Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078891229.4843.6.camel@sonylap1> <1078927634.27947.12.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1078929470.27947.22.camel@zephyr> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 10:15, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > is this different with 2.6? (sorry, i'm not at a system i can test this.) > are you saying that if i have no 2.6 kernel source tree, then the file > version.h will exist under /lib/modules? does that mean that build is no > longer a symlink? what's going on under that directory? As you say, build is no longer a symlink. I have the kernel package installed but *not* the kernel-source, and this is the layout of directories under /lib/modules: + 2.6.3-2.1.246 | +-- build | | | +-- arch | +-- crypto | +-- drivers | +-- fs | +-- include | +-- init | +-- ipc | +-- kernel | +-- lib | +-- mm | +-- net | +-- scripts | +-- security | +-- sound | +-- usr | --- Makefile +-- kernel | | | +-- arch | +-- crypto | +-- drivers | +-- fs | +-- lib | +-- net | +-- sound +-- unsupported | +-- drivers +-- fs +-- net -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed Mar 10 14:45:26 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:45:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1078929470.27947.22.camel@zephyr> References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078891229.4843.6.camel@sonylap1> <1078927634.27947.12.camel@zephyr> <1078929470.27947.22.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 10:15, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > is this different with 2.6? (sorry, i'm not at a system i can test this.) > > are you saying that if i have no 2.6 kernel source tree, then the file > > version.h will exist under /lib/modules? does that mean that build is no > > longer a symlink? what's going on under that directory? > > As you say, build is no longer a symlink. I have the kernel package > installed but *not* the kernel-source, and this is the layout of > directories under /lib/modules: > > + 2.6.3-2.1.246 > | > +-- build > | | > | +-- arch > | +-- crypto > | +-- drivers > | +-- fs > | +-- include > | +-- init > | +-- ipc > | +-- kernel > | +-- lib > | +-- mm > | +-- net > | +-- scripts > | +-- security > | +-- sound > | +-- usr > | --- Makefile forgive me for beating on this, but i'm assuming that, if you've installed just the binary 2.6 kernel rpm, then this "build" directory you get is just to act as a kind of placeholder for the regular build symlink? and it's going to emulate just enough of the kernel source tree to allow folks to do stuff like including "include/linux/version.h"? perhaps include files, or something like that -- obviously only a subset of the original source tree. and i'm assuming that, if you install a 2.6 kernel from source, "build" goes back to being a symlink to the source tree? makes sense if that's what's happening. man, if i had a 2.6 system in front of me, i wouldn't be asking all these questions. rday From anthony.seward at ieee.org Wed Mar 10 15:34:30 2004 From: anthony.seward at ieee.org (Anthony Joseph Seward) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:34:30 -0700 Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078891229.4843.6.camel@sonylap1> <1078927634.27947.12.camel@zephyr> <1078929470.27947.22.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1078932869.4843.23.camel@sonylap1> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 09:45 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > forgive me for beating on this, but i'm assuming that, if you've > installed just the binary 2.6 kernel rpm, then this "build" directory you > get is just to act as a kind of placeholder for the regular build symlink? > and it's going to emulate just enough of the kernel source tree to allow > folks to do stuff like including "include/linux/version.h"? perhaps > include files, or something like that -- obviously only a subset of the > original source tree. > It has header files and the build system (the source in 'scripts' and the Makefiles and Kconfig files). Since the canonical location for the kernel headers is /lib/modules, I think it is confusing to think of the old symlink way of doing things as 'regular.' It was an expediency. The fact that source was also at the end of the symlink was ancillary. > and i'm assuming that, if you install a 2.6 kernel from source, "build" > goes back to being a symlink to the source tree? makes sense if that's > what's happening. > Since I uninstalled the kernel-source rpm once I was told that it was unnecessary for building external modules, I can't verify what I'm going to hypothesize: take it as a test of the way I'm looking at the situation. I think that the kernel-source RPM puts the kernel source in the /usr/src directory and doesn't bother with any symlinks. If the kernel-source rpm were to replace the files in /lib/modules with a symlink then the rpm database would not reflect what is on the system. > man, if i had a 2.6 system in front of me, i wouldn't be asking all > these questions. > > rday > > Tony -- Anthony Joseph Seward From csm at Lunar-Linux.org Wed Mar 10 15:58:06 2004 From: csm at Lunar-Linux.org (csm at Lunar-Linux.org) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:58:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: how to unsubscribe!! In-Reply-To: <000f01c40660$38c86220$a2cd04cb@dit03> References: <20040309143701.5604.69870.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> <200403092210.12582.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> <000f01c40660$38c86220$a2cd04cb@dit03> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Ben Halicki spewed into the bitstream: BH>Hi all, BH> BH>how do i unsubscribe from this list?! read the footer from every message from the list and it should become clear. BH>> -- BH>> fedora-test-list mailing list BH>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com BH>> To unsubscribe: BH>> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list - -- csm Lunar Linux Project Lead Disclaimer: "I am not a curmudgeon! No... really..." Addendum: "Bwahahaha! Fire up the orbital mind-control lasers!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFATzsRq3bny/5+GAcRAj3RAKCF/JdvhHZabxFsg837x6ST6Dw5VwCfcr56 13fwnVmvQKQIKHDVAbhIvTE= =+XXA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 10 15:02:11 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:02:11 -0400 Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078891229.4843.6.camel@sonylap1> <1078927634.27947.12.camel@zephyr> <1078929470.27947.22.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1078930930.27947.26.camel@zephyr> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 10:45, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > and i'm assuming that, if you install a 2.6 kernel from source, "build" > goes back to being a symlink to the source tree? makes sense if that's > what's happening. Nope. I just installed the kernel-source RPM -- build is still its own directory. Kernel-source didn't appear to touch it at all. Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed Mar 10 16:02:42 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:02:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1078930930.27947.26.camel@zephyr> References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078891229.4843.6.camel@sonylap1> <1078927634.27947.12.camel@zephyr> <1078929470.27947.22.camel@zephyr> <1078930930.27947.26.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 10:45, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > and i'm assuming that, if you install a 2.6 kernel from source, "build" > > goes back to being a symlink to the source tree? makes sense if that's > > what's happening. > > Nope. I just installed the kernel-source RPM -- build is still its own > directory. Kernel-source didn't appear to touch it at all. sorry, i was being unclear. i didn't mean just installing the kernel source rpm, i meant installing a new 2.6 kernel from the source tree, which would create a new /lib/modules directory, etc, etc. if you do that, i'm assuming that the "build" directory in that new /lib/modules directory would then be a symlink back to the source tree. rday From twaugh at redhat.com Wed Mar 10 15:10:44 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:10:44 +0000 Subject: Fedora Core 1 Test Update: ghostscript-7.07-15.2 Message-ID: <20040310151044.GV22468@redhat.com> Please report problems as comments to this bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117860. If there are no problems by Wed 17th March this will become a final update (this is low risk, since it just adds a driver). --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-093 2004-03-10 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : ghostscript Version : 7.07 Release : 15.2 Summary : A PostScript(TM) interpreter and renderer. Description : Ghostscript is a set of software that provides a PostScript(TM) interpreter, a set of C procedures (the Ghostscript library, which implements the graphics capabilities in the PostScript language) and an interpreter for Portable Document Format (PDF) files. Ghostscript translates PostScript code into many common, bitmapped formats, like those understood by your printer or screen. Ghostscript is normally used to display PostScript files and to print PostScript files to non-PostScript printers. If you need to display PostScript files or print them to non-PostScript printers, you should install ghostscript. If you install ghostscript, you also need to install the ghostscript-fonts package. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: The recommended printer driver for several Canon printers was absent from the ghostscript package. The affected printers are: Canon BJC 250ex Canon BJC 255SP Canon BJC 265SP Updated packages are available to provide this driver. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Mar 09 2004 Tim Waugh 7.07-15.2 - Added bjc250gs driver (bug #117860). --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 77b5bf9c05c41d7d154aa9196af2f2ba SRPMS/ghostscript-7.07-15.2.src.rpm 74a3198dd5a875cfac63701189d5ca68 i386/ghostscript-7.07-15.2.i386.rpm 081a99f66e2b28cac85b4d87893248cb i386/ghostscript-devel-7.07-15.2.i386.rpm 65ff27c9c2dcb96554588d04bc97f2bf i386/hpijs-1.5-4.2.i386.rpm b4bf08c6ef294a7e620f2376661f4404 i386/debug/ghostscript-debuginfo-7.07-15.2.i386.rpm 3bf062cb051fa19688fdcc3a22c43272 x86_64/ghostscript-7.07-15.2.x86_64.rpm 941cca71b70e6e854dcc0ce05f9607a8 x86_64/ghostscript-devel-7.07-15.2.x86_64.rpm f4689ddd01949212e5e86e1fbea32761 x86_64/hpijs-1.5-4.2.x86_64.rpm 1fe876f20c827fcd3b0ef1910d39d9ae x86_64/debug/ghostscript-debuginfo-7.07-15.2.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wolters.liste at gmx.net Wed Mar 10 15:12:07 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:12:07 +0100 Subject: Crypted Partitions? Message-ID: <200403101612.07894.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Hi, there are several good howtos to mount crypted directorys or partitions, but fedora has no "easy graphical way" like SuSE - you format the partition, and at every boot you have a password question for the filesystem. Is it planed to add such a feature to fedora? And if, when, or if not, why not? Roland From kfreem02 at comcast.net Wed Mar 10 17:06:50 2004 From: kfreem02 at comcast.net (Kevin Freeman) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:06:50 -0600 Subject: USB scanners are broken In-Reply-To: <1078927187.3340.11.camel@family> References: <20040310082837.KYMF8742.amsfep18-int.chello.nl@localhost> <1078927187.3340.11.camel@family> Message-ID: <1078938410.11015.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> My USB scanner works just fine, but I have to tweak permissions after every reboot. The hotplug scripts do not set correct permissions. Plug in your USB scanner (unplug if necessary) then type dmesg in a console. Your scanner's USB bus location will be shown at the bottom. Then, give yourself full permissions to the corresponding node under / proc/bus/usb. For example, my scanner is located at /proc/bus/ usb/001/007, and I simply type (as root): $ chmod 777 /proc/bus/usb/001/007 Now kooka has no problem finding the scanner. Regards, Kevin Freeman From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 10 17:07:30 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:07:30 -0400 Subject: Update: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> Message-ID: <1078938449.27947.63.camel@zephyr> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 00:23, Efthym wrote: > No problems on this side. Just installed .246 , and updated from > any-any-update51 to update53. Compiled the modules and everything works. I > only have the kernel-source rpm for version 246. > I also checked and both /usr/src/linux-XXX/include/linux/version.h and > /lib/modules/XXX/build/include/linux/version.h are there. > > On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:29:22 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > > > Anyone have any luck getting VMware 4 to work against FC2 Test 1? I > > downloaded and ran vmware-any-any-update53.tar.gz as suggested in > > numerous places, and I do have kernel-source installed (I'm running the > > latest dev kernel, kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246). I got the modules to compile (finally!) by hacking vmware-config.pl not to fail out if the page_offset size was compared wrong. I think the problem lies in asm/page.h, which defines different page sizes based on whether or not you configure your kernel with the CONFIG_X86_4G_VM_LAYOUT switch on or off. The kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246 package has it turned on. VMWare was picking up a __PAGE_OFFSET value of 0x02000000 but my system was reporting 0xc0000000. I just hacked vmware-config.pl not to fail when the comparison didn't match. The problem is probably in the way vmware-config.pl checks for the running kernel's page size. Fixing this *correctly* is beyond my meagre abilities. But I have VMware running now, so I'm happy enough. I am curious as to why I had this problem and others aren't, though. Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From dr at cluenet.de Wed Mar 10 17:13:50 2004 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:13:50 +0100 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <404E8A18.8000307@comcast.net>; from randysch@comcast.net on Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:23:04PM -0500 References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> <404E8A18.8000307@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040310181350.A32204@homebase.cluenet.de> On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:23:04PM -0500, Randy Schrickel wrote: > Removing that default route certainly has an effect - but it doesn't > seem to be a consistent one. Does that output help? Not really. There seems to be a certain pattern that always the first query to a certain name server may time out. Are you sure that the v6 default route _really_ makes a difference, or is that just coincidence? Can you reproduce results by re-adding the default etc? I seriously have not the slightest clue why v6 should make ANY difference, given that all I'm ssing from these outputs is pure IPv4 stuff. And it's not some antipathy of your ISP's DNS cache against AAAA RRs as (if I'm not mistaken) even A RR requests timed out. One serious problem with debugging is that your ISP's cache might be the problem, or the remote nameservers. Your box only qeries the ISP cache, but we have no clue what THIS one does with your query in order to deliver results. Can you try installing a local BIND as local cache and use 127.0.0.1 as resolver in /etc/resolv.conf, and try that? Best regards, Daniel From james at ctsphone.com Wed Mar 10 17:26:57 2004 From: james at ctsphone.com (james) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:26:57 -0600 Subject: fedora-test-list digest References: <20040310170010.6482.82253.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <000501c406c4$e6bbcac0$0d01a8c0@jamesltp> Hello, I have been trying your different versions of the 2.6.1-2.6.3 kernel that has been included and everytime after the boot, I have no mouse on my system. I have a compaq laptop that has worked fine with the touch pad and the ps/2 mouse but with any of the 2.6.1-2.6.3 kernels I cannot use it. If I use the source and compile the kernel on my own I can use it From georg at georgs.org Wed Mar 10 17:45:40 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:45:40 +0100 Subject: yum problems Message-ID: <404F5444.5030508@georgs.org> It's the same if I use yum from FC2-test1 or the development package from yum. If I download a package whitch is ca. in 20 MB size yum seems to hang (package completly downloaded, but the next wont start) if it's over 30 or under 15 MB yum works fine. I don't know what it is because ther are absolutly no messages in yum.log log/messages etc... Im using the ftp-server from tu-chemnitz. greetings Georg E Schneider From michal at harddata.com Wed Mar 10 18:01:51 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:01:51 -0700 Subject: FC1 x86_64: LVM+RAID crashes under load In-Reply-To: <200403092141.06152.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>; from wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu on Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 09:41:06PM -0700 References: <20040310032709.14565.7694.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> <200403092141.06152.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Message-ID: <20040310110151.A26660@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 09:41:06PM -0700, Wes Shull wrote: > Douglas Kilpatrick wrote: > > > A box I'm playing with is crashing under moderately-serious > > postgres-generated load. ?The stack trace on the panic appears to > > implicate various disk subsystems, but the top of it has scrolled > off > > the screen. > > You probably already knew this, but doing > > resizecons -lines 50 > > might let you catch more of the message. If you do have a serial port then setting up a serial console with an output capture (say Linux box with a minicom) is the real way to get all this stuff recorded. Michal From hellcat at hispeed.ch Wed Mar 10 18:12:55 2004 From: hellcat at hispeed.ch (RJ) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:12:55 +0100 Subject: NVIDIA & Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.283 In-Reply-To: <20040309080625.GA28042@ee.oulu.fi> References: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> <4049E355.9080108@hispeed.ch> <1078609789.3590.3.camel@CirithUngol> <20040309080625.GA28042@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: <404F5AA7.9000406@hispeed.ch> Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 01:49:49PM -0800, Andrew Farris wrote: > >>Are there any relevant changes to the kernel config between the version >>that worked and any that don't? The configs are all included in the >>kernel-source package. > > > CONFIG_4KSTACKS is the likely suspect, minion.de says it's not compatible > with the driver and the latest kernels have that enabled. > Is there an easy way to disable that? 2.6.3-1.118 is still the last kernel that had working nvidia drivers support From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Wed Mar 10 18:20:25 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:20:25 -0500 Subject: Regarding Evolution 1.5 In-Reply-To: <1078326410.1016.97.camel@hermione> References: <4045D202.6040705@clara.co.uk> <1078326410.1016.97.camel@hermione> Message-ID: <1078942825.4885.2.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 00:10 +0800, Colin Charles wrote: > > I recall reading that 1.5 won't be in FC2 but cant thouse wanting to > > use it follow Katzj devel?? > > Add the following to /etc/yum.conf > > [evolution] > name=Evolution Devel Snaps > baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/katzj/evolution/ Followed this advice and upgraded from the 1.5.4 rpms from Noa Resare pointed to in a previous evolution thread. Seems pretty stable for bleeding-edge stuff, but both Noa's version and Jeremy's crash every time I attempt to read an e-mail from my public radio station, WHRO. Bug-buddy showed no debugging symbols available, so loaded all the - debuginfo packages. No sign of improvement in debug info - filed anyway. Should this be filed in Bugzilla, or is there something else to get better information for debugging? Phil From enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Mar 10 19:01:49 2004 From: enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Enrico Scholz) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:01:49 +0100 Subject: tvtime vs xawtv In-Reply-To: <404EF1A6.2000203@gmx.de> (shrek-m@gmx.de's message of "Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:44:54 +0100") References: <20040309143701.5604.69870.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> <200403092133.50502.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> <404EF1A6.2000203@gmx.de> Message-ID: <87smgga5lu.fsf@kosh.ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> shrek-m at gmx.de ("shrek-m at gmx.de") writes: >>> From the ultra-low cpu utilization in Shrek's xawtv ps, I'm >>> guessing >>he's running xawtv in overlay mode? >> > even if xawtv is not in overlay-mode it is not so cpu-hungry like > tvtime Yeah, even 'mencoder' has a lower CPU load (around 35-40% vs. >50% for tvtime) while encoding AVIs (bitrate 2048, 1 B-frame, 720x576, mpeg4). Enrico From daveh at cadlink.com Wed Mar 10 19:46:38 2004 From: daveh at cadlink.com (Dave Hawkes (gmane)) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:46:38 -0500 Subject: CIFS and SMBFS Message-ID: It would appear that SMBFS has been replaced in favour of CIFS. However the problem for is that I get many errors using CIFS which do not occur with old kernels that still have SMBFS support. The most common error is: CIFS VFS: Error 0xfffffffb or (-5 decimal) on cifs_get_inode_info in lookup This error occurs on all 2.6 kernels up to and including 2.6.3-2.1.242 that I have tried. Is it not possible to also keep support for SMBFS in the kernel as it would appear that it is currently more stable, likely due to its maturity? Thanks Dave Hawkes From piet at www.piet.net Wed Mar 10 20:05:05 2004 From: piet at www.piet.net (Piet Delaney) Date: 10 Mar 2004 12:05:05 -0800 Subject: amd64 Fedora Core (With 2.6 Kernel on a MSI MS-9131 Dual Processor) In-Reply-To: <1077645637.25813.505.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> References: <200402241108.18722.czar@czarc.net> <1077645637.25813.505.camel@dungeness.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1078949106.1540.805.camel@www.piet.net> On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 10:00, Rob Myers wrote: > On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 11:08, Gene C. wrote: From fxjrlists at yahoo.com.br Wed Mar 10 20:06:48 2004 From: fxjrlists at yahoo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Francisco=20Figueiredo=20Jr.?=) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:06:48 -0300 (ART) Subject: 2.6.3-2.1.242 is using more swap than previous kernels??? Message-ID: <20040310200648.63744.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, after upgrading to 2.6.3...242 I noticed a much higher swap usage than before. Do you also noticed that? If so, is there something I can do to help check this? This is the output from free: total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 256328 253960 2368 0 1184 46900 -/+ buffers/cache: 205876 50452 Swap: 522072 180940 341132 Note that there is very much room without the buffers and the system is using swap. I'm using FC1 with the updated kernel. Thanks in advance. Regards, Francisco Figueiredo Jr. ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - O melhor e-mail do Brasil! Abra sua conta agora: http://br.yahoo.com/info/mail.html From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Wed Mar 10 20:00:59 2004 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:00:59 -0800 Subject: png problems In-Reply-To: <404F1D2F.2030302@8010.co.uk> References: <1078911945.15788.32.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> <404EEC7F.1030602@gmx.de> <404F1D2F.2030302@8010.co.uk> Message-ID: <1078948859.32053.0.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 13:50 +0000, Craig Tinson wrote: > all I can find in the logs are hundreds off "Couldn't recognise the > image file format for file.../path/to/some/png/file" Yeah, I had this same problem. Turns out it was a bad upgrade of gtk2. Do: # rpm -qa | grep gtk2 I had two versions of it. I removed both with a rpm -e --nodeps. I then installed the latest version off of rawhide and all was well in gnome land again. Not sure why the upgrade of the rpm failed, though. -tduffy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com Wed Mar 10 20:17:10 2004 From: brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com (Bill Rugolsky Jr.) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:17:10 -0500 Subject: Crypted Partitions? In-Reply-To: <200403101612.07894.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200403101612.07894.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20040310201710.GA426@ti19.telemetry-investments.com> On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 04:12:07PM +0100, Roland Wolters wrote: > there are several good howtos to mount crypted directorys or partitions, but > fedora has no "easy graphical way" like SuSE - you format the partition, and > at every boot you have a password question for the filesystem. > Is it planed to add such a feature to fedora? > And if, when, or if not, why not? The proper way to do this with the 2.6 kernel in FC2 will be using device-mapper and dm-crypt. See http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/ There has been some discussion of in-place encryption conversion using device-mapper tricks, so there is some chance that it could be done post-install with little hassle. Regards, Bill Rugolsky From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed Mar 10 20:17:37 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:17:37 +0100 Subject: OT: mta - greylisting Message-ID: <404F77E1.9080902@gmx.de> hi, i do not understand all but could it be an other solution for spam ? http://www.net-security.org/news.php?id=4756 http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/ -- shrek-m From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 10 20:07:32 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:07:32 -0800 Subject: Policy?! I don't need no stinking policy! In-Reply-To: <20040309131453.0b95061e@shaka.ec-group.com> References: <404CB591.9090902@precisiondrive.com> <1078770436.5349.20.camel@athlon.localdomain> <404CF9D6.7090205@precisiondrive.com> <1078824234.15308.27.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <20040309171128.GE32385@lichen.truemesh.com> <20040309131453.0b95061e@shaka.ec-group.com> Message-ID: <20040310200732.GA20672@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 01:14:53PM -0600, Brian Millett wrote: > Paul Nasrat wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 11:13:17AM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > > > If user runs with selinx=0 in grub, then should user still see > > > messages about missing files etc, like the one I see whenever I run > > > rpm -[Ui] *.rpm? > > > > > > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: > > > No such file or directory > > > > Yes you will see that atm, don't panic. > > > > > That pathname is unknown to the most recent rpmdb-fedora. > > > > strange it's owned by policy-1.7-8 here > > Ok, well I do not have policy installed. I wonder how many other > packages are needed for selinux that are not installed? Do you have > a list? I guess it is not a dependency, or it would have been > installed with the latest kernel. Do not install these without doing some homework first, but, for selinux I think the list of additional rpm's is: checkpolicy policy-sources policycoreutils libselinux Slightly out of date, See: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=20372&group_id=21266 http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=20372&group_id=21266#gs3.2 -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From piet at www.piet.net Wed Mar 10 20:28:02 2004 From: piet at www.piet.net (Piet Delaney) Date: 10 Mar 2004 12:28:02 -0800 Subject: amd64 Fedora Core (With 2.6 Kernel on a MSI MS-9131 Dual Processor) Message-ID: <1078950482.8697.823.camel@www.piet.net> On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 10:00, Rob Myers wrote: > On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 11:08, Gene C. wrote: From craig at 8010.co.uk Wed Mar 10 20:48:31 2004 From: craig at 8010.co.uk (Craig Tinson) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:48:31 +0000 Subject: png problems In-Reply-To: <1078948859.32053.0.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> References: <1078911945.15788.32.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> <404EEC7F.1030602@gmx.de> <404F1D2F.2030302@8010.co.uk> <1078948859.32053.0.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: <1078951711.5164.7.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> > # rpm -qa | grep gtk2 > > I had two versions of it. I removed both with a rpm -e --nodeps. > > I then installed the latest version off of rawhide and all was well in > gnome land again. Not sure why the upgrade of the rpm failed, though. > > -tduffy Thanks for the ideas guys.. all fixed now.. I dont know *what* was wrong.. but the gtk2 thing sounds probable.. In the end I just re-rpm'd the whole 1.9GB of updates *whilst at the console*.. in case it had problems seeing as I was *in gnome* the first time.. don't know if that had anything to do with it but figured it was worth a shot.. and now things seem good "in gnome land" again :) Thanks again :) Craig From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Mar 10 21:53:51 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:53:51 +0000 Subject: Yum conf Message-ID: <1078955630.3238.0.camel@T7.linux> Hi, My yum.conf file seems a bit mangled. Can some kind soul please let me know the official Fedora 1.90 yum entry? TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cisco Networking Academy C I S C O S Y S T E M S http://cisco.netacad.net From steve.ellis at sympatico.ca Wed Mar 10 22:28:15 2004 From: steve.ellis at sympatico.ca (Steve Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:28:15 -0500 Subject: Update: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1078938449.27947.63.camel@zephyr> References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078938449.27947.63.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1078957695.1956.2.camel@steellis-opendb.webhop.net> Hi Ben I had the same problem I just rem'd out the return command and also have a working vmware now. Not sure how safe it is to do that but it works. :-) Steve On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 13:07 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 00:23, Efthym wrote: > > No problems on this side. Just installed .246 , and updated from > > any-any-update51 to update53. Compiled the modules and everything works. I > > only have the kernel-source rpm for version 246. > > I also checked and both /usr/src/linux-XXX/include/linux/version.h and > > /lib/modules/XXX/build/include/linux/version.h are there. > > > > On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:29:22 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > > > > > Anyone have any luck getting VMware 4 to work against FC2 Test 1? I > > > downloaded and ran vmware-any-any-update53.tar.gz as suggested in > > > numerous places, and I do have kernel-source installed (I'm running the > > > latest dev kernel, kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246). > > I got the modules to compile (finally!) by hacking vmware-config.pl not > to fail out if the page_offset size was compared wrong. I think the > problem lies in asm/page.h, which defines different page sizes based on > whether or not you configure your kernel with the > CONFIG_X86_4G_VM_LAYOUT switch on or off. The kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246 > package has it turned on. > > VMWare was picking up a __PAGE_OFFSET value of 0x02000000 but my system > was reporting 0xc0000000. I just hacked vmware-config.pl not to fail > when the comparison didn't match. > > The problem is probably in the way vmware-config.pl checks for the > running kernel's page size. Fixing this *correctly* is beyond my meagre > abilities. > > But I have VMware running now, so I'm happy enough. I am curious as to > why I had this problem and others aren't, though. > > Ben > -- > Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 > http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 10 22:31:27 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:31:27 -0400 Subject: Update: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1078957695.1956.2.camel@steellis-opendb.webhop.net> References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078938449.27947.63.camel@zephyr> <1078957695.1956.2.camel@steellis-opendb.webhop.net> Message-ID: <1078957887.3572.26.camel@ripley> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 18:28, Steve Ellis wrote: > Hi Ben > > I had the same problem I just rem'd out the return command and also have > a working vmware now. Not sure how safe it is to do that but it > works. :-) Exactly. :-) As usual, I feel better knowing (sorta) what's wrong. So far so good... nothing appears broken on the surface. Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From randysch at comcast.net Wed Mar 10 22:31:08 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:31:08 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <20040310181350.A32204@homebase.cluenet.de> References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> <404E8A18.8000307@comcast.net> <20040310181350.A32204@homebase.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <404F972C.2010506@comcast.net> Daniel Roesen wrote: > Not really. There seems to be a certain pattern that always the first > query to a certain name server may time out. Are you sure that the > v6 default route _really_ makes a difference, or is that just > coincidence? Can you reproduce results by re-adding the default etc? I can try re-adding the default. > I seriously have not the slightest clue why v6 should make ANY > difference, given that all I'm ssing from these outputs is pure > IPv4 stuff. And it's not some antipathy of your ISP's DNS cache against > AAAA RRs as (if I'm not mistaken) even A RR requests timed out. Me either. This is my first experience with v6. It just showed up as the only noticeable difference, and taking it out fixed the problem. > Can you try installing a local BIND as local cache and use 127.0.0.1 > as resolver in /etc/resolv.conf, and try that? Haven't done that before, but I can give it a try. randy From linuxnow at newtral.org Wed Mar 10 22:33:46 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:33:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: x86_64 list of problems In-Reply-To: References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> Message-ID: I've installed FC1 and devel in separate partitions to be able to help in the tests, so I'll post a short list of things that simply do not work: Problem 1 --------- -X crashes when drawing a window (both in devel and FC1) The graphics card is a Mobility Radeon 9600 M10. I copied the XFConfig from the x86_84 FAQ. When I switch to runlevel 5, xdm starts, but crashes when a window is drawn, as when you choose the language. It also crashes after logging, before drawing any app icon in the fedora splash screen. -solution: install Xfree86-4.0 from source and X works. Problem 2 --------- -cannot add users: I suppose it's related to some selinux thing I still do not understand. This makes installing rpms that add users a pain, as useers are not created (i.e. postfix). Problem 3 --------- -yum updates: I never can connect to download.fedora.redhat.com, it fails with: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request Other mirrors fail with: Downloading needed headers retrygrab() failed for: ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/x86_64//headers/tcl-0-8.4.5-6.x86_64.hdr Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/x86_64//headers/tcl-0-8.4.5-6.x86_64.hdr [Errno 6] ERROR: Url Return no Content-Length - something is wrong Any good mirrors for devel? Many of them simply carry the RPMS, forbidding yum. Question 4 ---------- -mozilla i386 or mozilla x86_64? I have i386 installed. Thanks for your help. Pau From dennis at ausil.us Wed Mar 10 22:51:20 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:51:20 +1000 Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078930930.27947.26.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <200403110851.25935.dennis@ausil.us> On Thursday 11 March 2004 2:02 am, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > sorry, i was being unclear. i didn't mean just installing the kernel > source rpm, i meant installing a new 2.6 kernel from the source tree, > which would create a new /lib/modules directory, etc, etc. > > if you do that, i'm assuming that the "build" directory in that new > /lib/modules directory would then be a symlink back to the source tree. > > rday no its not if you build a new kernel you get the kernel headers under for instance /lib/modules/2.6.3/build no symlinking at all. it places copies of hearder files in there. Dennis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Thu Mar 11 00:07:09 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:07:09 -0600 Subject: x86_64 list of problems In-Reply-To: References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> Message-ID: <20040311000709.GA23063@comcast.net> On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:33:46PM +0100, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > Problem 1 > --------- > -X crashes when drawing a window (both in devel and FC1) > The graphics card is a Mobility Radeon 9600 M10. I copied the XFConfig > from the x86_84 FAQ. > When I switch to runlevel 5, xdm starts, but crashes when a window is > drawn, as when you choose the language. It also crashes after logging, > before drawing any app icon in the fedora splash screen. > -solution: install Xfree86-4.0 from source and X works. > We do not even begin to support this graphics card, but yes, XFree86 4.4 should work, and hopefully something new for FC2 (XFree86 4.4 presents licensing issues) > Problem 2 > --------- > -cannot add users: I suppose it's related to some selinux thing I still do > not understand. This makes installing rpms that add users a pain, as > useers are not created (i.e. postfix). > Is this in FC1 as well? > Question 4 > ---------- > -mozilla i386 or mozilla x86_64? I have i386 installed. > For FC1, mozilla i386, for FC2 mozilla x86_64. Justin From g.graham at orrcon.com.au Thu Mar 11 00:23:48 2004 From: g.graham at orrcon.com.au (Gavin Graham) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:23:48 +1000 Subject: Kernel sloppiness. Message-ID: <1078964628.6052.7.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> I have tried every rawhide kernel since the release of Fedora Core 2 test1 one and I have the following two problems with every one of them after 2.6.3-1.116 1) NVidia drivers build but fail to work. I end up with just a black screen. It looks like it has something to do with AGP failing. 2) VMware will not build its drivers even after vmware has been patched. It says that it cant find 'linux' 'asm' under the kernel source include directory. When I downgrade to 2.6.3-1.116, both these problems go away and eveything will build. Regards, -- Gavin Graham Systems Operations Supervisor Orrcon Information Technology Orrcon Pty Ltd P: 07 32740549 E: g.graham at orrcon.com.au F: 07 32740691 M: 0409 897288 WWW: www.orrcon.com.au From anthony.seward at ieee.org Thu Mar 11 01:20:59 2004 From: anthony.seward at ieee.org (Anthony Joseph Seward) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:20:59 -0700 Subject: Kernel sloppiness. In-Reply-To: <1078964628.6052.7.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> References: <1078964628.6052.7.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> Message-ID: <1078968059.2756.0.camel@sonylap1> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 10:23 +1000, Gavin Graham wrote: > I have tried every rawhide kernel since the release of Fedora Core 2 > test1 one and I have the following two problems with every one of them > after 2.6.3-1.116 > > 1) NVidia drivers build but fail to work. I end up with just a black > screen. It looks like it has something to do with AGP failing. > 2) VMware will not build its drivers even after vmware has been patched. > It says that it cant find 'linux' 'asm' under the kernel source include > directory. > I don't have this problem. I'm using the last beta of VMware Workstation. > When I downgrade to 2.6.3-1.116, both these problems go away and > eveything will build. > > Regards, > -- > Gavin Graham > Systems Operations Supervisor > Orrcon Information Technology > Orrcon Pty Ltd > P: 07 32740549 E: g.graham at orrcon.com.au > F: 07 32740691 M: 0409 897288 > WWW: www.orrcon.com.au > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Anthony Joseph Seward From steve.ellis at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 11 01:22:57 2004 From: steve.ellis at sympatico.ca (Steve Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:22:57 -0500 Subject: Kernel sloppiness. In-Reply-To: <1078964628.6052.7.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> References: <1078964628.6052.7.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> Message-ID: <1078968177.1956.9.camel@steellis-opendb.webhop.net> To get vmware to work after applying the patch edit vmware-config.pl to ignore the page_offset error. It is not elegant but works :-( Locate the function below and rem the line return ''; $header_page_offset = direct_command( shell_string($gHelper{'echo'}) . ' ' . shell_string('#define __KERNEL__' . "\n" . '#include ' . "\n" . $pattern . ' __PAGE_OFFSET') . ' | ' . shell_string($gHelper{'gcc'}) . ' ' . shell_string('-I' . $answer) . ' -E - | ' . shell_string($gHelper{'grep'}) . ' ' . shell_string($pattern)); chomp($header_page_offset); $header_page_offset =~ s/^$pattern \(0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8}).*$/$1/; if ($header_page_offset =~ /[0-9a-fA-F]{8}/) { # We found a valid page offset if (not (lc($header_page_offset) eq lc($gSystem{'page_offset'}))) { if ($source eq 'user') { print wrap('The kernel defined by this directory of header files does ' . 'not have the same address space size as your running ' . 'kernel.' . "\n\n", 0); } # return ''; } } On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 10:23 +1000, Gavin Graham wrote: > I have tried every rawhide kernel since the release of Fedora Core 2 > test1 one and I have the following two problems with every one of them > after 2.6.3-1.116 > > 1) NVidia drivers build but fail to work. I end up with just a black > screen. It looks like it has something to do with AGP failing. > 2) VMware will not build its drivers even after vmware has been patched. > It says that it cant find 'linux' 'asm' under the kernel source include > directory. > > When I downgrade to 2.6.3-1.116, both these problems go away and > eveything will build. > > Regards, > -- > Gavin Graham > Systems Operations Supervisor > Orrcon Information Technology > Orrcon Pty Ltd > P: 07 32740549 E: g.graham at orrcon.com.au > F: 07 32740691 M: 0409 897288 > WWW: www.orrcon.com.au > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From markf78 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 11 01:23:39 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:23:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: gdmgreeter and a broken X Message-ID: <20040311012339.25845.qmail@web11412.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- for some reason X will not load correctly. It hangs endlessly with the default background and an hourglass. i'm able to use ctrl-alt-1 to run "top". when i do this, i notice that gdmgreeter is using 50% of the CPU and keeps restarting (it keeps changing its PID). any ideas how to fix this? my packages were update via rawhide as of yesterday. this problem has occurred since i first updated from rawhide after installing FC Core 2 Test 1. any help would be greatly appreciated... in the meantime, i guess i'll have to keep ssh'ing into the box and running X apps from it. thanks again... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From wolters.liste at gmx.net Thu Mar 11 02:05:30 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 03:05:30 +0100 Subject: Crypted Partitions? In-Reply-To: <20040310201710.GA426@ti19.telemetry-investments.com> References: <200403101612.07894.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <20040310201710.GA426@ti19.telemetry-investments.com> Message-ID: <200403110305.30454.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Bill Rugolsky Jr. wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 04:12:07PM +0100, Roland Wolters wrote: > > there are several good howtos to mount crypted directorys or partitions, > > but fedora has no "easy graphical way" like SuSE - you format the > > partition, and at every boot you have a password question for the > > filesystem. > > Is it planed to add such a feature to fedora? > > And if, when, or if not, why not? > > The proper way to do this with the 2.6 kernel in FC2 will be using > device-mapper and dm-crypt. See > > http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/ > > There has been some discussion of in-place encryption conversion using > device-mapper tricks, so there is some chance that it could be > done post-install with little hassle. Ok, thx, but this feature should be used with kernel 2.6.4 - and my question was more about the planned things exspecial for Fedora Core 2, and specially about planned features for the install process with anaconda or for the hardware browser. Thx so far, Roland From g.graham at orrcon.com.au Thu Mar 11 02:20:45 2004 From: g.graham at orrcon.com.au (Gavin Graham) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:20:45 +1000 Subject: fedora-test-list digest, Vol 1 #622 - 33 msgs In-Reply-To: <20040311020202.7090.581.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040311020202.7090.581.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1078971645.4386.25.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> Thanks, but that is not the point. It works with a generic 2.6.3 kernel AND it works with 2.6.3-1.116 from rawhide. You just don't "Band-aid" fix these things. I think the fix you suggested assumes that I can get it to start building. It doesn't even do that. It cant find the headers properly. Thing thing is that these kernels get patched at the expense of broad range compatibility unless we make the kernel builder/packager aware. Whats the point of upgrading to Fedora Core 2 when it comes out if we have to spend all this extra time fudging build routines in drivers etc that would normally work under a standard kernel? -- Gavin Graham Systems Operations Supervisor Orrcon Information Technology Orrcon Pty Ltd P: 07 32740549 E: g.graham at orrcon.com.au F: 07 32740691 M: 0409 897288 WWW: www.orrcon.com.au On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 21:02 -0500, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > > Message: 29 > Subject: Re: Kernel sloppiness. > From: Steve Ellis > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:22:57 -0500 > Reply-To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To get vmware to work after applying the patch > edit vmware-config.pl to ignore the page_offset error. It is not elegant > but works :-( From lewt at warcry.com Thu Mar 11 02:47:15 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:47:15 -0600 Subject: 2.6.3-x Kernel Needed x86_64 Message-ID: <404FD333.2050109@warcry.com> Does anyone know where I can nab a x86_64 kernel of the 2.6.3 series? From bcs at metacon.ca Thu Mar 11 02:59:14 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:59:14 -0400 Subject: fedora-test-list digest, Vol 1 #622 - 33 msgs In-Reply-To: <1078971645.4386.25.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> References: <20040311020202.7090.581.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> <1078971645.4386.25.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> Message-ID: <1078973954.2748.7.camel@ripley> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 22:20, Gavin Graham wrote: > Thanks, but that is not the point. > It works with a generic 2.6.3 kernel AND it works with 2.6.3-1.116 from > rawhide. You just don't "Band-aid" fix these things. > > I think the fix you suggested assumes that I can get it to start > building. It doesn't even do that. It cant find the headers properly. You're probably making the same mistake I did and looking in /usr/src. You actually need to use /lib/modules/{kernel}/build/include/ . Unlike 2.4 kernels, you don't need kernel-source to build the modules. You will need to use the patch package from http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/vmware-any-any-update53.tar.gz Those two bits of knowledge, and the commenting out of the page_offset error, will enable VMWare to build properly. Is the fault that of the kernel package builders, the kernel developers, or VMware? Is it fault, or just progress? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From maxer1 at xmission.com Thu Mar 11 06:21:53 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:21:53 -0700 Subject: ATI Driver fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 Message-ID: <40500581.4070203@xmission.com> Just to show you how IMPOSSIBLE it is for a 2.6.x kernel to work with ATI linux drivers: Preparing... ################################################## fglrx ################################################## *** Trying to install a precompiled kernel module. *** WARNING *** Tailored kernel module for fglrx not present in your system. You must go to /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod subdir and execute './make.sh' to build a fully customed kernel module. Afterwards go to /lib/modules/fglrx and run './make_install.sh' in order to install the module into your kernel's module repository. (see readme.txt for more details.) As of now you can still run your XServer in 2D, but hardware acclerated OpenGL will not work and 2D graphics will lack performance. failed. *** Found kernel module build environment, generating kernel module now. ATI module generator V 2.0 ========================== initializing... cleaning... patching 'highmem.h'... skipping patch for 'drmP.h', not needed skipping patch for 'drm_os_linux.h', not needed assuming new VMA API since we do have kernel 2.6.x... doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher make -C /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.253custom/build SUBDIRS=/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.253' *** Warning: Overriding SUBDIRS on the command line can cause *** inconsistencies make[2]: `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s' is up to date. CC [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/agp3.o CC [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/nvidia-agp.o CC [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/agpgart_be.o CC [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/i7505-agp.o CC [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:2246: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:2264: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:2271: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:2278: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:2287: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type LD [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/fglrx.o Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST CC /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/fglrx.mod.o LD [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/fglrx.ko make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.253' build succeeded with return value 0 duplicating results into driver repository... done. ============================== - creating symlink - recreating module dependency list - trying a sample load of the kernel module failed. Installed: qt3 (gcc 3.2) based control panel application === ATI display drivers successfully installed please run 'fglrxconfig' now Here is what the XFree86.0.log shows as well: (II) fglrx(0): UMM area: 0xe8953000 (size=0x076ad000) (II) fglrx(0): driver needs XFree86 version: 4.3.x (II) fglrx(0): detected XFree86 version: 4.3.0 (II) Loading extension ATIFGLRXDRI (II) fglrx(0): doing DRIScreenInit drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: Open failed drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: Open failed [drm] failed to load kernel module "agpgart" [drm] failed to load kernel module "fglrx" (II) fglrx(0): [drm] drmOpen failed (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed! (WW) fglrx(0): *********************************************** (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available * (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* * Have more fun! RaXeT From linuxnow at newtral.org Thu Mar 11 06:36:27 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:36:27 +0100 (CET) Subject: x86_64 list of problems In-Reply-To: <20040311000709.GA23063@comcast.net> References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> <20040311000709.GA23063@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:33:46PM +0100, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > > > Problem 1 > > --------- > > -X crashes when drawing a window (both in devel and FC1) > > The graphics card is a Mobility Radeon 9600 M10. I copied the XFConfig > > from the x86_84 FAQ. > > When I switch to runlevel 5, xdm starts, but crashes when a window is > > drawn, as when you choose the language. It also crashes after logging, > > before drawing any app icon in the fedora splash screen. > > -solution: install Xfree86-4.0 from source and X works. > We do not even begin to support this graphics card, but yes, XFree86 4.4 > should work, and hopefully something new for FC2 (XFree86 4.4 presents > licensing issues) I know about the license problem, but I remember an email from Alan Cox that talked about patches being backported. I could try to backport the necessry patches if someone gives me some hints. I'm not usure if that's possible with the current license. > > Problem 2 > > --------- > > -cannot add users: I suppose it's related to some selinux thing I still do > > not understand. This makes installing rpms that add users a pain, as > > useers are not created (i.e. postfix). > > > Is this in FC1 as well? No, it has to do with selinux not allowing to modify the passwd file. > > Question 4 > > ---------- > > -mozilla i386 or mozilla x86_64? I have i386 installed. > > > For FC1, mozilla i386, for FC2 mozilla x86_64. Thanks, I'll replace it (I upgraded from FC1T1 to devel, that's why it must be there). Pau From linuxnow at newtral.org Thu Mar 11 06:43:50 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:43:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: 2.6.3-x Kernel Needed x86_64 In-Reply-To: <404FD333.2050109@warcry.com> References: <404FD333.2050109@warcry.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Lewt @ Linux Warcry wrote: > Does anyone know where I can nab a x86_64 kernel of the 2.6.3 series? Grab it from the development tree for x86_84. Pau From michal at harddata.com Thu Mar 11 07:41:34 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:41:34 -0700 Subject: x86_64 list of problems In-Reply-To: <20040311000709.GA23063@comcast.net>; from 64bit_fedora@comcast.net on Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 06:07:09PM -0600 References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> <20040311000709.GA23063@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040311004134.B12792@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 06:07:09PM -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:33:46PM +0100, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > > Question 4 > > ---------- > > -mozilla i386 or mozilla x86_64? I have i386 installed. > > > For FC1, mozilla i386, for FC2 mozilla x86_64. What this buys beyond headaches with plugins? Michal From spam at tachegroup.com Thu Mar 11 10:52:16 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 05:52:16 -0500 Subject: up2date and yum problems under FC2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <404F5444.5030508@georgs.org> Message-ID: I cannot get up2date and yum to work. The errors follow. I even tried to update from the latest development and web offerings for the libxml2 and libxslt. I do see the libxml2 stuff in /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages but they are missing from the /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages Errors follow.... -> up2date Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 29, in ? from up2date_client import up2date File "up2date.py", line 36, in ? File "depSolver.py", line 4, in ? File "packageList.py", line 17, in ? File "up2dateComps.py", line 7, in ? File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rhpl/comps.py", line 5, in ? import libxml2 ImportError: No module named libxml2 -> yum Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? import yummain File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 31, in ? import yumcomps File "/usr/share/yum/yumcomps.py", line 4, in ? import comps File "/usr/share/yum/comps.py", line 5, in ? import libxml2 ImportError: No module named libxml2 -> rpm -qa | grep up2date up2date-gnome-4.3.11-2.1.1 up2date-4.3.11-2.1.1 -> rpm -qa | grep slt libxslt-python-1.1.4-1 libxslt-1.1.4-1 libxslt-devel-1.1.4-1 -> rpm -qa | grep xml2 libxml2-devel-2.6.7-1 libxml2-2.6.7-1 libxml2-python-2.6.7-1 -> rpm -qa | grep rpm | sort redhat-rpm-config-8.0.28-1.1 rpm-4.3-0.9.1 rpm-build-4.3-0.9.1 rpm-debuginfo-4.2-1 rpm-devel-4.3-0.9.1 rpm-python-4.3-0.9.1 rpmdb-fedora-1.90-0.20040204 -> rpm -qa | grep python | sort MySQL-python-0.9.1-10 gnome-python2-2.0.0-3 gnome-python2-applet-2.0.0-3 gnome-python2-bonobo-2.0.0-3 gnome-python2-canvas-2.0.0-3 gnome-python2-gconf-2.0.0-3 gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.0.0-3 gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.0.0-3 gnome-python2-nautilus-2.0.0-3 libxml2-python-2.6.7-1 libxslt-python-1.1.4-1 mod_python-3.0.4-0.1 postgresql-python-7.4-5 python-2.3.3-1 python-2.3.3-2.1 python-devel-2.3.3-1 python-devel-2.3.3-2.1 python-docs-2.3.3-1 python-docs-2.3.3-2.1 python-optik-1.4.1-4 python-tools-2.3.3-1 rpm-python-4.3-0.9.1 From spam at tachegroup.com Thu Mar 11 10:54:13 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 05:54:13 -0500 Subject: security selinux error under FC2 Test 1 Message-ID: I see this when I install rpms. /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory Do I need to worry about it? Is it an error? From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu Mar 11 11:04:52 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:04:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: VMware with FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <200403110851.25935.dennis@ausil.us> References: <1078889362.3277.3.camel@ripley> <1078930930.27947.26.camel@zephyr> <200403110851.25935.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Thursday 11 March 2004 2:02 am, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > sorry, i was being unclear. i didn't mean just installing the kernel > > source rpm, i meant installing a new 2.6 kernel from the source tree, > > which would create a new /lib/modules directory, etc, etc. > > > > if you do that, i'm assuming that the "build" directory in that new > > /lib/modules directory would then be a symlink back to the source tree. > > > > rday > > no its not if you build a new kernel you get the kernel headers under for > instance /lib/modules/2.6.3/build no symlinking at all. it places copies of > hearder files in there. um ... no, it doesn't. just as a test, i built a new 2.6.2 kernel from the original www.kernel.org source tree, and installed the modules. when i checked the new modules directory /lib/modules/2.6.2, the "build" object was in fact a symlink back to the source tree, as i expected it to be. at least, this is the way it works with a pristine kernel source tree. does it work differently with a RH-customized source rpm? rday From fedora at andrewfarris.com Thu Mar 11 11:32:43 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 03:32:43 -0800 Subject: security selinux error under FC2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079004763.15657.2.camel@CirithUngol> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 05:54 -0500, TGS wrote: > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file > or directory > > Do I need to worry about it? Is it an error? > Currently harmless console noise. It is a warning that SELinux is not correctly configured, so if you do not specifically intend to test SELinux you can ignore the messages. -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Thu Mar 11 11:54:35 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:54:35 -0500 Subject: NVIDIA & Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.283 In-Reply-To: <404F5AA7.9000406@hispeed.ch> References: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> <4049E355.9080108@hispeed.ch> <1078609789.3590.3.camel@CirithUngol> <20040309080625.GA28042@ee.oulu.fi> <404F5AA7.9000406@hispeed.ch> Message-ID: <1079006075.31148.14.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 13:12, RJ wrote: > Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 01:49:49PM -0800, Andrew Farris wrote: > > > >>Are there any relevant changes to the kernel config between the version > >>that worked and any that don't? The configs are all included in the > >>kernel-source package. > > > > > > CONFIG_4KSTACKS is the likely suspect, minion.de says it's not compatible > > with the driver and the latest kernels have that enabled. > > > > Is there an easy way to disable that? > 2.6.3-1.118 is still the last kernel that had working nvidia drivers support It's in the kernel hacking section of make gconfig (or others). Bob... From pmatilai at welho.com Thu Mar 11 12:18:11 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 14:18:11 +0200 (EET) Subject: ATI Driver fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: <40500581.4070203@xmission.com> References: <40500581.4070203@xmission.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, RaXeT wrote: > Just to show you how IMPOSSIBLE it is for a 2.6.x kernel to work with > ATI linux drivers: [snip] Complaining to ATI would be more productive... - Panu - From antti at victoria.fi Thu Mar 11 12:29:38 2004 From: antti at victoria.fi (Antti) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 14:29:38 +0200 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade Message-ID: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've got a big problem with apt. When I try to dist-upgrade to fc2t1, apt tries to remove all my kernels and doesn't try to install a new one (2.6*). Ofcourse I could apt-get install kernel#2.6* after dist-upgrade but I don't dare to do it. Does anyone have a solution for this? -- -a From craig at 8010.co.uk Thu Mar 11 12:44:49 2004 From: craig at 8010.co.uk (Craig Tinson) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:44:49 +0000 Subject: balsa dependency Message-ID: <1079009089.12708.4.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> hey guys.. sorry if this has been covered but it seems the archive search is down : ( (tries this yesterday too.. is it permanently down?) anyways.. I have an update available for balsa.. but it's complaining about dependencies.. ---------------------------------- Unresolvable chain of dependencies: balsa 2.0.16-2.1 requires libgal-2.0.so.5 balsa 2.0.16-2.1 requires libgal-a11y-2.0.so.5 balsa 2.0.16-2.1 requires libgtkhtml-3.0.so.2 balsa 2.0.16-2.1 requires libgtkhtml-a11y-3.0. so.2 ---------------------------------- I searched google for an rpm but all I could find was a src rpm.. I downloaded that and tried to rebuild it but it failed with: ---------------------------------- gtk-combo-box.h:72: error: conflicting types for `gtk_combo_box_new' /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcombobox.h:65: error: previous declaration of `gtk_combo_box_new'make[3]: *** [gtk-combo-stack.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gal-1.99.10/gal/ widgets' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gal-1.99.10/gal' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gal-1.99.10' make: *** [all] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.98975 (%build) ---------------------------------- have *no* idea what thats about.. beyond my expertise.. so the question.. anyone know where I can get the dependencies? have also tried apt and yum but not there.. thanks for any suggestions.. Craig From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Mar 11 13:05:08 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:05:08 -0500 Subject: up2date and yum problems under FC2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079010308.11920.4.camel@binkley> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 05:52 -0500, TGS wrote: > I cannot get up2date and yum to work. > > The errors follow. I even tried to update from the latest development and > web offerings for the libxml2 and libxslt. > > I do see the libxml2 stuff in /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages but they are > missing from the /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages > install the newest libxml2-python from the development tree. you need libxml2-python in the python 2.3 site-packages path. -sv From davej at redhat.com Thu Mar 11 13:45:58 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:45:58 +0000 Subject: CIFS and SMBFS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079012758.25725.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 19:46, Dave Hawkes (gmane) wrote: > It would appear that SMBFS has been replaced in favour of CIFS. However > the problem for is that I get many errors using CIFS which do not occur > with old kernels that still have SMBFS support. > > The most common error is: > > CIFS VFS: Error 0xfffffffb or (-5 decimal) on cifs_get_inode_info in lookup > > This error occurs on all 2.6 kernels up to and including 2.6.3-2.1.242 > that I have tried. > > Is it not possible to also keep support for SMBFS in the kernel as it > would appear that it is currently more stable, likely due to its maturity? If things don't start getting a lot better, it may return in test3. In the meantime, please let the CIFS developers know about this. Steve French is the guy to talk to. Dave From davej at redhat.com Thu Mar 11 13:49:43 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:49:43 +0000 Subject: Kernel sloppiness. In-Reply-To: <1078964628.6052.7.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> References: <1078964628.6052.7.camel@gavin.orrcon.com.au> Message-ID: <1079012983.25725.4.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 00:23, Gavin Graham wrote: > I have tried every rawhide kernel since the release of Fedora Core 2 > test1 one and I have the following two problems with every one of them > after 2.6.3-1.116 > > 1) NVidia drivers build but fail to work. I end up with just a black > screen. It looks like it has something to do with AGP failing. > 2) VMware will not build its drivers even after vmware has been patched. > It says that it cant find 'linux' 'asm' under the kernel source include > directory. > > When I downgrade to 2.6.3-1.116, both these problems go away and > eveything will build. If we refused to change kernel interfaces just to keep 3rd party binary modules working, we'd never get anywhere. This is not 'kernel sloppiness' at all. It's a problem these external modules have not knowing about things like -mregparm=3, 4g address space, 4k irqstacks etc. Dave From davej at redhat.com Thu Mar 11 13:53:21 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:53:21 +0000 Subject: ATI Driver fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: <40500581.4070203@xmission.com> References: <40500581.4070203@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1079013201.25725.6.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 06:21, RaXeT wrote: > Just to show you how IMPOSSIBLE it is for a 2.6.x kernel to work with > ATI linux drivers: So tell ATI. Dave From maxer1 at xmission.com Thu Mar 11 13:54:23 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:54:23 -0700 Subject: ATI Driver fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: References: <40500581.4070203@xmission.com> Message-ID: <40506F8F.5040308@xmission.com> Panu Matilainen wrote: >On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, RaXeT wrote: > > > >>Just to show you how IMPOSSIBLE it is for a 2.6.x kernel to work with >>ATI linux drivers: >> >> >[snip] > >Complaining to ATI would be more productive... > > - Panu - > > > > Have been replying through the only mode I know and that is there feedback at: http://apps.ati.com/linuxDfeedback/index.asp RaXeT From maxer1 at xmission.com Thu Mar 11 13:56:24 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:56:24 -0700 Subject: ATI Driver fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: <1079013201.25725.6.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <40500581.4070203@xmission.com> <1079013201.25725.6.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <40507008.6090308@xmission.com> Dave Jones wrote: >On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 06:21, RaXeT wrote: > > >>Just to show you how IMPOSSIBLE it is for a 2.6.x kernel to work with >>ATI linux drivers: >> >> > >So tell ATI. > > Dave > > Have been replying through the only mode I know and that is there feedback at: http://apps.ati.com/linuxDfeedback/index.asp Hopefully they take notice. btw, I forgot to mention I can always successfully build any 2.4.x kernel just fine. RaXeT From bartk at clara.co.uk Thu Mar 11 14:19:51 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 14:19:51 +0000 Subject: Installing new mozilla builds Message-ID: <40507587.6000105@clara.co.uk> Is there a way of keeping up with new builds of Mozilla? I used to install it by hand in /usr/local/ folder and update with nightly builds, this time however I decided to go with FC installation of Mozilla and since then I was able to find only a month old rpm made for FC. TIA -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From pbender at qualcomm.com Thu Mar 11 14:22:01 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:22:01 -0800 Subject: balsa dependency In-Reply-To: <1079009089.12708.4.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> References: <1079009089.12708.4.camel@craig.8010.co.uk> Message-ID: <40507609.7050101@qualcomm.com> Craig Tinson wrote: > hey guys.. > > sorry if this has been covered but it seems the archive search is down : > ( (tries this yesterday too.. is it permanently down?) > > anyways.. I have an update available for balsa.. but it's complaining > about dependencies.. > > ---------------------------------- > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > balsa 2.0.16-2.1 requires libgal-2.0.so.5 > balsa 2.0.16-2.1 requires libgal-a11y-2.0.so.5 > balsa 2.0.16-2.1 requires libgtkhtml-3.0.so.2 > balsa 2.0.16-2.1 requires libgtkhtml-a11y-3.0. > so.2 > ---------------------------------- > > I searched google for an rpm but all I could find was a src rpm.. I > downloaded that and tried to rebuild it but it failed with: > > ---------------------------------- > gtk-combo-box.h:72: error: conflicting types for `gtk_combo_box_new' > /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcombobox.h:65: error: previous declaration > of `gtk_combo_box_new'make[3]: *** [gtk-combo-stack.lo] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gal-1.99.10/gal/ > widgets' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gal-1.99.10/gal' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gal-1.99.10' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.98975 (%build) > ---------------------------------- > > have *no* idea what thats about.. beyond my expertise.. > > so the question.. anyone know where I can get the dependencies? > > have also tried apt and yum but not there.. > > thanks for any suggestions.. > > Craig It is likely that you are running newer versions of the libgal2 and gtkhtml3 packages. The libgal2 and gtkhtml3 packages were rolled back to earlier versions when evolution was rolled back to an earlier version. Since they are earlier versions, they will not install automatically. You can force the old packages to install by downloading them and then running "rpm --upgrade --old-packages libgal2-*.rpm gtkhtml3-*.rpm". From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Thu Mar 11 14:47:14 2004 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:47:14 -0700 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040311144714.GA2700@charlescurley.com> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 02:29:38PM +0200, Antti wrote: > I've got a big problem with apt. When I try to dist-upgrade to fc2t1, > apt tries to remove all my kernels and doesn't try to install a new one > (2.6*). Ofcourse I could apt-get install kernel#2.6* after dist-upgrade > but I don't dare to do it. Does anyone have a solution for this? I hit a similar problem using yum. It did not install the new kernel, but did not remove any of the kernels already present. I manually installed the kernel successfully. In addition, when the 2.6.1 kernel was installed, the new kernel was put in the first stanza of grub.conf, but the value of default in grub.conf was set to 1, resulting in default booting to a 2.4.x kernel. The work-around, of course, is to hand edit grub.conf to set default to 0. Prior kernel installations have always set default to 0. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Mar 11 14:53:43 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 11 Mar 2004 09:53:43 -0500 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <20040311144714.GA2700@charlescurley.com> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040311144714.GA2700@charlescurley.com> Message-ID: <1079016822.20282.0.camel@opus> > I hit a similar problem using yum. It did not install the new kernel, > but did not remove any of the kernels already present. I manually > installed the kernel successfully. > > In addition, when the 2.6.1 kernel was installed, the new kernel was > put in the first stanza of grub.conf, but the value of default in > grub.conf was set to 1, resulting in default booting to a 2.4.x > kernel. The work-around, of course, is to hand edit grub.conf to set > default to 0. Prior kernel installations have always set default to 0. I'm confused - you're not seeing the new kernel in yum either? Do you have the kernel excluded in your yum.conf? -sv From fedora at networklifeline.net Thu Mar 11 15:08:14 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:08:14 -0700 Subject: cpuspeed error on boot Message-ID: <20040311150814.31002.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> I can't search the archives because of a rehat is unavailable otherwise I would be more than happy to RTFM. So can anyone tell me what this message is. I get it on boot. I am running FC2 updated today , installed last night. Error is: Error: Could not open file for writing: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor Error: No such file or directory Thank you, BC From steve at rueb.com Thu Mar 11 15:28:05 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:28:05 -0600 Subject: cpuspeed error on boot In-Reply-To: <20040311150814.31002.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> References: <20040311150814.31002.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <40508585.7010103@rueb.com> BC wrote: > Error is: > Error: Could not open file for writing: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor > Error: No such file or directory > I see this as well. I've always assumed that /sys is not mounted yet. -Steve From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 11 15:35:06 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:35:06 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question Message-ID: I am (still) waiting to build a new amd_64 system. I want to buy a MB with an SATA chipset that will work with FC2 in the near future. Does anyone know of something that will definately work? I keep checking this list, but I'm still not sure. I've seen reports that via works with current kernels? Is there a particular via SATA chipset to look for, or is there only one via SATA chipset for amd_64 MB? From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Mar 11 15:39:17 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:39:17 -0800 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 11 March 2004 07:35, Neal D. Becker wrote: > I am (still) waiting to build a new amd_64 system. I want to buy a MB > with an SATA chipset that will work with FC2 in the near future. Does > anyone know of something that will definately work? I keep checking > this list, but I'm still not sure. > > I've seen reports that via works with current kernels? Is there a > particular via SATA chipset to look for, or is there only one via SATA > chipset for amd_64 MB? With FC1 x86_64, the following chips work: ICH4 ICH5 VIA Sata (unknown exact chipset) Promise SATA (unknown exact chipset) Sil3112 The Asus via boards have both VIA and Promise chips that are supported. The chaintech has 4x promise ports which are supported. Many boards have Sil3114, which are not supported yet. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAUIgl4v2HLvE71NURAlI/AJ4xdby1+2vEduVE5JlPDT1X98b5QQCgkOS9 UDm066C2Kr6e65koHKu82ag= =zdoo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dan.furlani at earthling.net Thu Mar 11 15:43:20 2004 From: dan.furlani at earthling.net (Dan Furlani) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:43:20 -0500 Subject: Is there an obsolete packages list Message-ID: <20040311154320.676FE43EA5@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> Hello, I can't decide if this is a fedora question or a yum question... Is there a way of verifying that a package is obsoleted by some other package in fc2? I'd like to use yum to upgrade from fc1 to fc2-test1 (or 1.90 or development or rawhide, whatever it's called). I commented out the [base] and [freshrpms] sections of yum.conf, and added new sections [base-fc2t1] and [freshrpms-fc2t1] that point at .../core/development/... instead of .../core/1/... I ran 'yum list extras' and got a list that is longer than what I normally get with that command, including: Glide3, bonobo-conf, comps, filesystem, gnome-vfs2-extras, libmrproject, losetup, mount, openssl, perl-libxml-enno, redhat-config-*, redhat-logviewer, redhat-switch-*, sndconfig, switchdesk*, xawtv, xmlto. All of these existed in the old [base] repository and are not available in [base-fc2t1]. I read somewhere that redhat-config-* are obsoleted by some system-* packages, so I'm not worried about those. How do I know if the others have been obsoleted or are just missing/forgotten? Also, should I not comment out the old repositories? I'd guess that yum would be smart enough to ignore the old repos for the most part since the packages are older. But otoh, maybe that will cause problems since redhat-config-* exist in the old repos... Thanks -Dan -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.iname.com From kilpatds at oppositelock.org Thu Mar 11 15:44:08 2004 From: kilpatds at oppositelock.org (Douglas Kilpatrick) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:44:08 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <40508948.5010908@oppositelock.org> Jesse Keating wrote: > The Asus via boards have both VIA and Promise chips that are supported. > The chaintech has 4x promise ports which are supported. Many boards have > Sil3114, which are not supported yet. My board has the Sil3114. The kernels provided by Fedora come with a driver that is not compiled, but once compiled, It Works For Me (tm). (You have to turn on the "allow drivers not expected to compile" option, then select the driver from the libata-based set. But again, appears to work for me. Just the lack of support from the stock kernel makes it hard to install to hard drives off of that controller, so I've picked up a different one.) Doug -- kilpatds at oppositelock.org Outta Control Racing, Inc. From randysch at comcast.net Thu Mar 11 15:46:42 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy L Schrickel) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:46:42 -0500 Subject: cpuspeed error on boot In-Reply-To: <40508585.7010103@rueb.com> References: <20040311150814.31002.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> <40508585.7010103@rueb.com> Message-ID: <405089E2.4060807@comcast.net> Steve Bergman wrote: > BC wrote: > >> Error is: >> Error: Could not open file for writing: >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor >> Error: No such file or directory >> > > I see this as well. I've always assumed that /sys is not mounted yet. You can turn off the service that's causing that with "chkconfig service off". Unfortunately, I don't have access to a FC2 box now, and I don't remember the exact service name! ;( But a "chkconfig --list" will show all the service names, and I think it's a fairly obvious name once you see it in front of you. randy From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 11 15:50:26 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:50:26 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: Jesse Keating wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 11 March 2004 07:35, Neal D. Becker wrote: >> I am (still) waiting to build a new amd_64 system. I want to buy a MB >> with an SATA chipset that will work with FC2 in the near future. Does >> anyone know of something that will definately work? I keep checking >> this list, but I'm still not sure. >> >> I've seen reports that via works with current kernels? Is there a >> particular via SATA chipset to look for, or is there only one via SATA >> chipset for amd_64 MB? > > With FC1 x86_64, the following chips work: > > ICH4 ICH5 > VIA Sata (unknown exact chipset) > Promise SATA (unknown exact chipset) > Sil3112 > > The Asus via boards have both VIA and Promise chips that are supported. > The chaintech has 4x promise ports which are supported. Many boards have > Sil3114, which are not supported yet. Thanks so much for the info. I think I found the board you're talking about, is this correct: Asus K8V Deluxe Via K8T800/Via VT8237 Lan Audio Firewire DDR 400 ATX AMD 64 http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110201 From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Thu Mar 11 15:58:44 2004 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:58:44 -0700 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <1079016822.20282.0.camel@opus> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040311144714.GA2700@charlescurley.com> <1079016822.20282.0.camel@opus> Message-ID: <20040311155844.GB2700@charlescurley.com> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 09:53:43AM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > > I hit a similar problem using yum. It did not install the new kernel, > > but did not remove any of the kernels already present. I manually > > installed the kernel successfully. > > > > In addition, when the 2.6.1 kernel was installed, the new kernel was > > put in the first stanza of grub.conf, but the value of default in > > grub.conf was set to 1, resulting in default booting to a 2.4.x > > kernel. The work-around, of course, is to hand edit grub.conf to set > > default to 0. Prior kernel installations have always set default to 0. > > I'm confused - you're not seeing the new kernel in yum either? Prior to the upgrade, I saw it if I ran "yum list updates". [root at issola root]# yum list updates | grep -i kernel kernel i586 2.6.1-1.65 upgrade [root at issola root]# pre yum yum-2.0.5-1 However, when I ran "yum upgrade", it did not install the kernel. Should I have run "yum update"? > Do you have the kernel excluded in your yum.conf? No. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Mar 11 16:01:10 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 11 Mar 2004 11:01:10 -0500 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <20040311155844.GB2700@charlescurley.com> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040311144714.GA2700@charlescurley.com> <1079016822.20282.0.camel@opus> <20040311155844.GB2700@charlescurley.com> Message-ID: <1079020870.20282.9.camel@opus> > [root at issola root]# yum list updates | grep -i kernel > kernel i586 2.6.1-1.65 upgrade i586? There's an i586 kernel being built for fc2test1? what arch kernel do you have installed? I'm betting it's not i586. > [root at issola root]# pre yum > yum-2.0.5-1 > > However, when I ran "yum upgrade", it did not install the > kernel. Should I have run "yum update"? no yum upgrade is just yum update but it also includes obsoletes. -sv From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 11 16:03:50 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:03:50 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: I also found this one: MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R K8T800 SATA/R/A/GBE/1394/ATX Athlon64 http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110177 Related question: Will the on-chip NIC and sound be supported or do I need to buy additional cards? From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Mar 11 16:08:37 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:08:37 -0800 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <200403110808.37466.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 11 March 2004 07:50, Neal D. Becker wrote: > Thanks so much for the info. I think I found the board you're talking > about, is this correct: > > Asus K8V Deluxe Via K8T800/Via VT8237 Lan Audio Firewire DDR 400 ATX AMD > 64 > http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_C >ode=M&Product_Code=110201 That be the one. I work for Pogo Linux, and thats the board we use as the base for our Athlon64 workstation. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAUI8F4v2HLvE71NURAqLEAJ0dvRt7VbQBdsPQOgLFv7kPX6uIKwCgsKD7 hO3yY4pV/rB3qrsoye8DcKw= =qquF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bcs at metacon.ca Thu Mar 11 16:14:58 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:14:58 -0400 Subject: cpuspeed error on boot In-Reply-To: <405089E2.4060807@comcast.net> References: <20040311150814.31002.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> <40508585.7010103@rueb.com> <405089E2.4060807@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1079021698.14334.21.camel@zephyr> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 11:46, Randy L Schrickel wrote: > Steve Bergman wrote: > > BC wrote: > > > >> Error is: > >> Error: Could not open file for writing: > >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor > >> Error: No such file or directory > >> > > > > I see this as well. I've always assumed that /sys is not mounted yet. > > You can turn off the service that's causing that with "chkconfig > service off". Unfortunately, I don't have access to a FC2 box now, and > I don't remember the exact service name! ;( But a "chkconfig --list" > will show all the service names, and I think it's a fairly obvious > name once you see it in front of you. "chkconfig cpuspeed off" -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Thu Mar 11 16:15:45 2004 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:15:45 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <200403110808.37466.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403110808.37466.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <405090B1.5030502@atl.lmco.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jesse Keating wrote: | On Thursday 11 March 2004 07:50, Neal D. Becker wrote: | |>Thanks so much for the info. I think I found the board you're talking |>about, is this correct: |> |>Asus K8V Deluxe Via K8T800/Via VT8237 Lan Audio Firewire DDR 400 ATX AMD |>64 |>http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_C |>ode=M&Product_Code=110201 | | | That be the one. I work for Pogo Linux, and thats the board we use as the | base for our Athlon64 workstation. | | -- | Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) | Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) | GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) | | Was I helpful? Let others know: | http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating What about the nForce3-based boards? Specifically, the Gigabyte GA-K8N. ~ Does anyone have any experience with the nForce3 series of boards? Do they Just Work with FC1-x86_64, do they work after installing nVidia's nForce drivers for Linux, or none of the above? The Gigabyte appears to have an sil3512 controller on board (http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_Spec_GA-K8N%20Pro.htm) I ask this because I've been pondering kitting out a rig at either www.cyberpowerinc.com or www.buyxg.com (no offense, Jesse). Anyone have any experience with either of those vendors? BuyXG seems to have the cheaper prices, but I've seen some negative feedback on their Reseller Ratings profile... - -- - ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAUJCxN50Q8DVvcvkRArRnAJwK6TRMTfzDOGgd0WJjUWRn7XdblwCdH0zz OUIuBmWm0Z+Mh/zDlXMiNiA= =3R1x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu Mar 11 16:15:55 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:15:55 +0100 Subject: cpuspeed error on boot In-Reply-To: <20040311150814.31002.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> References: <20040311150814.31002.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <405090BB.9050403@gmx.de> BC wrote: >I can't search the archives because of a rehat is unavailable otherwise I would be more than happy to RTFM. > > you can search the archives http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/thread.html mozilla [ctll] [f] lynx [/] ... cpufreq, cpuspeed, ... or try https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ >So can anyone tell me what this message is. I get it on boot. I am running FC2 updated today , installed last night. > >Error is: >Error: Could not open file for writing: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor >Error: No such file or directory > eg. > with the 2.6.3-1.91 on startup the following message come up: > could`nt write to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor > the directory/file don't exists: cpufreq/scaling_governor This has probably been covered before - Have you configured /etc/cpufreq.conf to use the correct driver? speedstep_ich works for most laptops. -- shrek-m From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Mar 11 16:19:36 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:19:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: cpuspeed error on boot In-Reply-To: <40508585.7010103@rueb.com> References: <20040311150814.31002.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> <40508585.7010103@rueb.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Steve Bergman wrote: > BC wrote: > > > Error is: > > Error: Could not open file for writing: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor > > Error: No such file or directory > > > > I see this as well. I've always assumed that /sys is not mounted yet. It happens because the cpu-freq-scaling driver is not loaded. Depending upon the machine (laptop) - the correct driver can be added to /etc/cpuspeed.conf For eg: for Pentium-M, the following can be added in /etc/cpuspeed.conf DRIVER="speedstep-centrino" And most desktop CPUs don't support any such speedstep cpu scaling anyway - so this service can be stopped. Satish From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Thu Mar 11 16:20:13 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:20:13 -0600 Subject: x86_64 list of problems In-Reply-To: <20040311004134.B12792@mail.harddata.com> References: <25370.199.74.155.50.1078328939.squirrel@webmail.warcry.com> <20040311000709.GA23063@comcast.net> <20040311004134.B12792@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040311162013.GA32515@comcast.net> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 12:41:34AM -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > For FC1, mozilla i386, for FC2 mozilla x86_64. > > What this buys beyond headaches with plugins? > It buys us the ability to run epiphany (shipping all of the deps for 32bit epiphany is a world of pain), puts us in line with all of the other 64bit distributions, and hopefully gives some leverage for the plugin writers to make 64bit plugins available among other things. I would expect the 64bit java plugin to be available in the FC2 timeframe, for all other plugins, make the request to the vendors now. If Open Office gets 64bit clean any time soon, I would expect Fedora to drop all 32bit apps by default, and simply include a group of libs for compatability with the average 3rd party apps. Justin From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Thu Mar 11 16:22:21 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:22:21 -0600 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040311162221.GB32515@comcast.net> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 10:35:06AM -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > I've seen reports that via works with current kernels? Is there a > particular via SATA chipset to look for, or is there only one via SATA > chipset for amd_64 MB? > Most VIA motherboards include both VIA SATA and Promise SATA. Both should work. Avoid anything with Sil SATA, SiS chipsets and you should be safe. Justin From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Thu Mar 11 16:24:30 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:24:30 -0600 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <405090B1.5030502@atl.lmco.com> References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403110808.37466.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <405090B1.5030502@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <20040311162430.GC32515@comcast.net> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:15:45AM -0500, Doug Stewart wrote: > > What about the nForce3-based boards? Specifically, the Gigabyte GA-K8N. > ~ Does anyone have any experience with the nForce3 series of boards? Do > they Just Work with FC1-x86_64, do they work after installing nVidia's > nForce drivers for Linux, or none of the above? > I have this board on one of my systems, and test with it on pretty much everything. Board works great outside of SATA. Currently SATA on that board is not supported. Justin From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Thu Mar 11 16:28:36 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:28:36 -0600 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <20040311162836.GD32515@comcast.net> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:03:50AM -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > I also found this one: > MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R K8T800 SATA/R/A/GBE/1394/ATX Athlon64 > > Will the on-chip NIC and sound be supported or do I need to buy additional > cards? > I also have this board and test with it. Onboard NIC and onboard SATA work well. Note, on this board, the Gigabit is on the PCI bus, so you do not exactly get the best performance, but it is slightly better than 100Mb. The Gigabyte K8NPro board places the gig on a seperate bus, so transfer speeds are considerably better. The trade off is no SATA support. Of course the SATA chipset is also on that bus, so even if you had SATA support, it would most likely degrade your NIC performance. Justin From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Thu Mar 11 16:29:06 2004 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:29:06 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <20040311162430.GC32515@comcast.net> References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403110808.37466.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <405090B1.5030502@atl.lmco.com> <20040311162430.GC32515@comcast.net> Message-ID: <405093D2.8000404@atl.lmco.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Justin M. Forbes wrote: | On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:15:45AM -0500, Doug Stewart wrote: | |>What about the nForce3-based boards? Specifically, the Gigabyte GA-K8N. |>~ Does anyone have any experience with the nForce3 series of boards? Do |>they Just Work with FC1-x86_64, do they work after installing nVidia's |>nForce drivers for Linux, or none of the above? |> | | I have this board on one of my systems, and test with it on pretty much | everything. Board works great outside of SATA. Currently SATA on that | board is not supported. | | Justin | | Has anyone had any contact with Silicon Image re: support for their chipsets under Linux? Is there any indication why they have been so slow to either release drivers or open the spec? - -- - ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAUJPSN50Q8DVvcvkRAuvsAJ9DeF9BuTaLywtCmMtUCg0XQq2gagCeMXQ+ 2pNqFdxyo9YbTi3yUsQephI= =LM/9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Mar 11 16:30:42 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:30:42 -0500 Subject: Up2date failure Message-ID: <200403111630.i2BGUgqE031800@wolves.durham.nc.us> v From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Thu Mar 11 16:33:55 2004 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:33:55 -0700 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <1079020870.20282.9.camel@opus> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040311144714.GA2700@charlescurley.com> <1079016822.20282.0.camel@opus> <20040311155844.GB2700@charlescurley.com> <1079020870.20282.9.camel@opus> Message-ID: <20040311163355.GC2700@charlescurley.com> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:01:10AM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > [root at issola root]# yum list updates | grep -i kernel > > kernel i586 2.6.1-1.65 upgrade > > i586? There's an i586 kernel being built for fc2test1? Looks like. > > what arch kernel do you have installed? I'm betting it's not i586. You lose the bet. :-) That's a test machine, running FC1 as updated. I had previously set its yum.conf to point to the FC2 ISOs for testing, so I could generate that output on it with ease. You don't think I'm going to run a test release on my production machine, do you? I did the upgrade that lead to this thread on an Athlon machine, but that should make no difference. > > > > [root at issola root]# pre yum > > yum-2.0.5-1 > > > > However, when I ran "yum upgrade", it did not install the > > kernel. Should I have run "yum update"? > > no yum upgrade is just yum update but it also includes obsoletes. Thanks -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Mar 11 16:34:16 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:34:16 -0500 Subject: Up2date error with file: URL Message-ID: <20040311163416.GA31811@wolves.durham.nc.us> I get a new error from up2date. It complains about not being able to read my local mirror. --------------------------- [root at tembo root]# up2date file:///src/Development/i386/headers/header.info not a valud URL (, , ) exceptions.IOError [root at tembo root]# --------------------------- The etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources line is: yum fedora-core-rawhide file:///src/Development/$ARCH Is this already fixed or is anyone else seeing something like this? -- Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury `-_-' Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us U RHCT August 2003 "The Line Eater is a boojum snark." Hug your wolf. From b-nordquist at bethel.edu Thu Mar 11 16:34:58 2004 From: b-nordquist at bethel.edu (Brent J. Nordquist) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:34:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Jesse Keating wrote: > With FC1 x86_64, the following chips work: > [...] > Promise SATA (unknown exact chipset) Promise PDC20378 (as on the Tyan Thunder K8S (S2880) for example); Justin mentioned back in December that code for this one was in one of the source trees anyway. -- Brent J. Nordquist N0BJN Other contact information: http://kepler.acns.bethel.edu/~bjn/contact.html From fedora at networklifeline.net Thu Mar 11 16:34:23 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:34:23 -0700 Subject: cpuspeed error on boot Message-ID: <20040311163423.13084.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> Ok most responses I see tell me to turn it off but i want to use the cpuspeed function. I have an ECS motherboard with an Athlon 1800+ that I would like to try to overclock. So that said -- I don't want to get rid of the error message I need to know how to set it up to work. Thanks, BC > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: cpuspeed error on boot > From: "Satish Balay" > Date: Thu, March 11, 2004 9:19 am > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Steve Bergman wrote: > > > BC wrote: > > > > > Error is: > > > Error: Could not open file for writing: > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor > > > Error: No such file or directory > > > > > > > I see this as well. I've always assumed that /sys is not mounted > yet. > > It happens because the cpu-freq-scaling driver is not > loaded. Depending upon the machine (laptop) - the correct driver can > be added to /etc/cpuspeed.conf > > For eg: for Pentium-M, the following can be added in > /etc/cpuspeed.conf > DRIVER="speedstep-centrino" > > And most desktop CPUs don't support any such speedstep cpu scaling > anyway - so this service can be stopped. > > Satish > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Thu Mar 11 16:39:21 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:39:21 -0600 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <405093D2.8000404@atl.lmco.com> References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403110808.37466.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <405090B1.5030502@atl.lmco.com> <20040311162430.GC32515@comcast.net> <405093D2.8000404@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <20040311163921.GE32515@comcast.net> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:29:06AM -0500, Doug Stewart wrote: > > Has anyone had any contact with Silicon Image re: support for their > chipsets under Linux? Is there any indication why they have been so > slow to either release drivers or open the spec? > I know jgarzik has been working with it, but I dont know where it falls on his priority list, or what information he has been given from Sil. Justin From ksnider at flarn.com Thu Mar 11 16:53:40 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:53:40 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40509994.30104@flarn.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brent J. Nordquist wrote: | Promise PDC20378 (as on the Tyan Thunder K8S (S2880) for example); Justin | mentioned back in December that code for this one was in one of the source | trees anyway. We have this exact board and installation and OS operation work flawlessly with the PDC20378 with FC1 Final, I have it working with two WD Raptor SATA drives and 4GB RAM, in an SMP configuration. - -- Ken Snider -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAUJmUJz/2kL0fCRgRAs3gAJ4hFOsyADWXqtT/BSy7+X6L9Aqr6QCfTP/6 dChdvasDF6gDQ7akLq12Y5k= =mWCK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mark at harddata.com Thu Mar 11 17:02:51 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:02:51 -0700 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <20040311163921.GE32515@comcast.net> References: <405093D2.8000404@atl.lmco.com> <20040311163921.GE32515@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200403111002.51084.mark@harddata.com> On March 11, 2004 09:39 am, "Justin M. Forbes" <64bit_fedora at comcast.net> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:29:06AM -0500, Doug Stewart wrote: > > Has anyone had any contact with Silicon Image re: support for their > > chipsets under Linux? Is there any indication why they have been so > > slow to either release drivers or open the spec? > > I know jgarzik has been working with it, but I dont know where it falls on > his priority list, or what information he has been given from Sil. The Silicon Image Driver (not Jeff Garzik's Libata driver) can be patched against the redhat kernel and works. Last I heard Jeff was still listing 3114 support as beta in his Libata driver under 2.6.3. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Mar 11 17:18:15 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:18:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: cpuspeed error on boot In-Reply-To: <20040311163423.13084.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> References: <20040311163423.13084.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, BC wrote: > Ok most responses I see tell me to turn it off but i want to use the > cpuspeed function. I have an ECS motherboard with an Athlon 1800+ > that I would like to try to overclock. So that said -- I don't want > to get rid of the error message I need to know how to set it up to > work. I don't thik this (desktop) chip supports (powernow) cpu-freq scaling. And the available drivers in the latest kernel appear to be consolidated. from FC1: ls /lib/modules/2.4.22-1.2174.nptl/kernel/arch/i386/kernel cpuid.o longhaul.o microcode.o p4-clockmod.o powernow-k7.o speedstep-ich.o edd.o longrun.o msr.o powernow-k6.o speedstep-centrino.o speedstep-lib.o from rawhide: ls /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.253/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/ acpi.ko p4-clockmod.ko powernow-k6.ko speedstep-smi.ko Satish From kas11 at tampabay.rr.com Thu Mar 11 17:25:23 2004 From: kas11 at tampabay.rr.com (Karen Spearel) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:25:23 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <4050A103.8040705@tampabay.rr.com> Neal D. Becker wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: > > >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>Hash: SHA1 >> >>On Thursday 11 March 2004 07:35, Neal D. Becker wrote: >> >>>I am (still) waiting to build a new amd_64 system. I want to buy a MB >>>with an SATA chipset that will work with FC2 in the near future. Does >>>anyone know of something that will definately work? I keep checking >>>this list, but I'm still not sure. >>> >>>I've seen reports that via works with current kernels? Is there a >>>particular via SATA chipset to look for, or is there only one via SATA >>>chipset for amd_64 MB? >> >>With FC1 x86_64, the following chips work: >> >>ICH4 ICH5 >>VIA Sata (unknown exact chipset) >>Promise SATA (unknown exact chipset) >>Sil3112 >> >>The Asus via boards have both VIA and Promise chips that are supported. >>The chaintech has 4x promise ports which are supported. Many boards have >>Sil3114, which are not supported yet. > > > Thanks so much for the info. I think I found the board you're talking > about, is this correct: > > Asus K8V Deluxe Via K8T800/Via VT8237 Lan Audio Firewire DDR 400 ATX AMD 64 > http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110201 > > > I have a K8V and it generally works with 2 provisos...my system does not like high latency DIMMs (ie 3:3:3:7). I have tested extensively with 2 matched sets of 512 mb Samsungs as listed on the Asus Qualified Vendors List and, at least for me, 200 mhz FSB ain't gonna happen with this memory. Asus Tech Support is less than useless and there isn't a whole lot of information on this subject to be found anywhere. Whether the problem truly lies with the CPU. MB or memory, I cannot say. I refer you to this article and you can draw your own conclusions. http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/40509606007a7b022740c0a80102059f/UserTemplate/27 Please note that until recently, Mushkin didn't have any recommendation for the K8V although they did for the other boards shown. At least Mushkin addresses the problem directly...other vendors don't. Someone (Waren Togami, as I remember) mentioned some rather significant problems with the MSI board early on...perhaps they have been rectified at this point. The MSI board, I believe, does use the Realtek 8169 network interface and this has some problems with > 4gb memory maps. Whether this might be an issue with current kernel with less than 4gb I can't say. The other problem I have noted is that the 64 bit FC2T1 installer finds the 3C940 network interface but doesn't bring up the physical link. Earlier installers didn't find it but let you select the sk98lin driver from a list and nfs,ftp or http installs could proceed from there without a problem...unfortunately, with the newer installer, the device is detected but the physical link doesn't come up. However, the sk98lin driver works fine with all previous 32 and 64 bit versions of Fedora here. Of course, YMMV. KAS From pmatilai at welho.com Thu Mar 11 17:29:29 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:29:29 +0200 (EET) Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <40508948.5010908@oppositelock.org> References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <40508948.5010908@oppositelock.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Douglas Kilpatrick wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: > > The Asus via boards have both VIA and Promise chips that are supported. > > The chaintech has 4x promise ports which are supported. Many boards have > > Sil3114, which are not supported yet. > > My board has the Sil3114. The kernels provided by Fedora come with a > driver that is not compiled, but once compiled, It Works For Me (tm). > > (You have to turn on the "allow drivers not expected to compile" option, > then select the driver from the libata-based set. But again, appears to > work for me. Just the lack of support from the stock kernel makes it > hard to install to hard drives off of that controller, so I've picked up > a different one.) Yup, SiI3114 with a small patch against vanilla 2.6.3 works for me as well but not having it built in makes life unnecessarily difficult :) Could we have that turned on in the kernel? - Panu - From pmatilai at welho.com Thu Mar 11 17:32:26 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:32:26 +0200 (EET) Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Antti wrote: > I've got a big problem with apt. When I try to dist-upgrade to fc2t1, > apt tries to remove all my kernels and doesn't try to install a new one > (2.6*). Ofcourse I could apt-get install kernel#2.6* after dist-upgrade > but I don't dare to do it. Does anyone have a solution for this? I guess something in FC2-test has "Conflicts: kernel < 2.6" thus causing it to be removed. I'd suggest installing the new 2.6 kernel *before* dist-upgrade. - Panu - From netopml at newview.com Thu Mar 11 17:33:20 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 11 Mar 2004 12:33:20 -0500 Subject: cpuspeed error on boot In-Reply-To: References: <20040311163423.13084.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) writes: > And the available drivers in the latest kernel appear to be > consolidated. > > from FC1: > ls /lib/modules/2.4.22-1.2174.nptl/kernel/arch/i386/kernel > cpuid.o longhaul.o microcode.o p4-clockmod.o powernow-k7.o speedstep-ich.o > edd.o longrun.o msr.o powernow-k6.o speedstep-centrino.o speedstep-lib.o > > from rawhide: > ls /lib/modules/2.6.3-2.1.253/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/ > acpi.ko p4-clockmod.ko powernow-k6.ko speedstep-smi.ko The "missing" ones are linked into the kernel, not built as modules anymore (last time I checked the kernel config file). -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From stevewa at spiritone.com Thu Mar 11 17:48:33 2004 From: stevewa at spiritone.com (Steve Ward) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:48:33 -0800 Subject: ATI Driver fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 Message-ID: <4050A671.7040002@spiritone.com> Sorry, it's working for me on FC1 with stock 2.6.3 kernel ATI module generator V 2.0 ========================== initializing... build_date =Sun Feb 22 20:57:14 PST 2004 uname -a =Linux pent4 2.6.3 #2 Sun Feb 22 20:50:43 PST 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux uname -s =Linux uname -m =i686 uname -r =2.6.3 uname -v =#2 Sun Feb 22 20:50:43 PST 2004 uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel) From alan at redhat.com Thu Mar 11 18:06:12 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:06:12 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <405093D2.8000404@atl.lmco.com> References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403110808.37466.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <405090B1.5030502@atl.lmco.com> <20040311162430.GC32515@comcast.net> <405093D2.8000404@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <20040311180612.GF32000@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:29:06AM -0500, Doug Stewart wrote: > Has anyone had any contact with Silicon Image re: support for their > chipsets under Linux? Is there any indication why they have been so > slow to either release drivers or open the spec? SI deal with businesses and NDA's but they are not Linux hostile in my experience - far from it with the SI3112 work and original Linux SATA, which they helped a ton. Alan From kas11 at tampabay.rr.com Thu Mar 11 18:06:53 2004 From: kas11 at tampabay.rr.com (Karen Spearel) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:06:53 -0500 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <4050A103.8040705@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <4050A103.8040705@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <4050AABD.1070304@tampabay.rr.com> Karen Spearel wrote: > I have a K8V and it generally works with 2 provisos...my system does not > like high latency DIMMs (ie 3:3:3:7). I have tested extensively with 2 > matched sets of 512 mb Samsungs as listed on the Asus Qualified Vendors > List and, at least for me, 200 mhz FSB ain't gonna happen with this > memory. Asus Tech Support is less than useless and there isn't a whole > lot of information on this subject to be found anywhere. Whether the > problem truly lies with the CPU. MB or memory, I cannot say. I refer > you to this article and you can draw your own conclusions. > > http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/40509606007a7b022740c0a80102059f/UserTemplate/27 > > > Please note that until recently, Mushkin didn't have any recommendation > for the K8V although they did for the other boards shown. At least > Mushkin addresses the problem directly...other vendors don't. > > Someone (Waren Togami, as I remember) mentioned some rather significant > problems with the MSI board early on...perhaps they have been rectified > at this point. The MSI board, I believe, does use the Realtek 8169 > network interface and this has some problems with > 4gb memory maps. > Whether this might be an issue with current kernel with less than 4gb I > can't say. It would help if I had carefully checked the article I sighted...the chart with memory recommendations has changed considerably in the past month ...the less expensive Level 1 Mushkin DIMMs are now only recommended for the Abit and Biostar boards...all others needing the 222. Having talked with someone that has the same sort of issues with the Abit board, I'd prolly buy low latency anyhow and not base my buying decision on possible cost savings on the memory. Sorry for the confusion. KAS From koreander at planet.nl Thu Mar 11 18:20:56 2004 From: koreander at planet.nl (Wim Bakker) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:20:56 +0100 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <200403111002.51084.mark@harddata.com> References: <20040311163921.GE32515@comcast.net> <200403111002.51084.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: <200403111920.56257.koreander@planet.nl> On Thursday 11 March 2004 18:02, Mark wrote: > On March 11, 2004 09:39 am, "Justin M. Forbes" <64bit_fedora at comcast.net> >n from Sil. > > The Silicon Image Driver (not Jeff Garzik's Libata driver) can be patched > against the redhat kernel and works. Last I heard Jeff was still listing > 3114 support as beta in his Libata driver under 2.6.3. I have the S2875 with SI3114 running just fine with stock 2.6.3 kernel. I used an old small PATA drive to do the initial installation , build a new kernel and than moved everything to the SATA drive, and removed the old PATA drive. Runs fine. From antti at victoria.fi Thu Mar 11 18:44:20 2004 From: antti at victoria.fi (Antti) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:44:20 +0200 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079030660.3127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 19:32, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Antti wrote: > > > I've got a big problem with apt. When I try to dist-upgrade to fc2t1, > > apt tries to remove all my kernels and doesn't try to install a new one > > (2.6*). Ofcourse I could apt-get install kernel#2.6* after dist-upgrade > > but I don't dare to do it. Does anyone have a solution for this? > > I guess something in FC2-test has "Conflicts: kernel < 2.6" thus causing > it to be removed. I'd suggest installing the new 2.6 kernel *before* > dist-upgrade. > > - Panu - ok, I installed kernel before I tried dist-upgrade. It suggests to remove ALL my kernels, no matter what version. Is it possible to install kernel after that dist-upgrade although I don't have any kernels installed at that point. I don't have any kernels at that point but then I'm running this old 2.4. -- -a From ktreichel at web.de Thu Mar 11 18:57:31 2004 From: ktreichel at web.de (Klaus Treichel) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:57:31 +0100 Subject: Problems with kernel 2.6.3-2.1.xxx on Toshiba Satelite 5200 laptop Message-ID: <1079031451.4899.35.camel@nbkt.ktreichel.local> Hi, i'm new to this list. I have FC2 test1 running on this laptop on a second partition for a while. Since kernel 2.6.3-2.x i have the following problems: 1. the CPad is working until Firstboot is running. After this the mouse does not move and the display is blank. Probably usb Problem (see dmesg) Linux version 2.6.3-2.1.253 (bhcompile at porky.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.3.3 20040216 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-2.1)) #1 Tue Mar 9 13:35:40 EST 2004 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 00000000000eee00 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000eee00 - 00000000000ef000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 00000000000ef000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000003ffcc000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000003ffcc000 - 000000003ffd0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000000003ffd0000 - 000000003ffe0000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 000000003ffe0000 - 0000000040000000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000feda0000 - 00000000fedc0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffb80000 - 00000000ffc00000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fff80000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 1023MB LOWMEM available. On node 0 totalpages: 262092 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 257996 pages, LIFO batch:16 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.3 present. ACPI: RSDP (v000 TOSHIB ) @ 0x000f0180 ACPI: RSDT (v001 TOSHIB 5200 0x20020926 TASM 0x04010000) @ 0x3ffd0000 ACPI: FADT (v002 TOSHIB 5200 0x20020926 TASM 0x04010000) @ 0x3ffd0058 ACPI: DBGP (v001 TOSHIB 5200 0x20020926 TASM 0x04010000) @ 0x3ffd00dc ACPI: BOOT (v001 TOSHIB 5200 0x20020926 TASM 0x04010000) @ 0x3ffd0030 ACPI: DSDT (v001 TOSHIB 5200 0x20020926 MSFT 0x0100000a) @ 0x00000000 ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0xee08 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb acpi=on mapped 4G/4G trampoline to ffff3000. current: 0230ab40 current->thread_info: 0235a000 Initializing CPU#0 CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=02387000 soft=02386000 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order 12: 32768 bytes) Detected 1993.671 MHz processor. Using pmtmr for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Memory: 1034072k/1048368k available (1832k kernel code, 13528k reserved, 575k data, 148k init, 0k highmem) zapping low mappings. Calibrating delay loop... 3948.54 BogoMIPS Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. Failure registering capabilities with the kernel selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Capability LSM initialized snip ACPI: AC Adapter [ADP1] (on-line) ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present) ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT2] (battery absent) ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] ACPI: Lid Switch [LID] toshiba_acpi: Toshiba Laptop ACPI Extras version 0.17 toshiba_acpi: HCI method: \_SB_.VALD.GHCI drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usbfs drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hub PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:06.2 (0000 -> 0002) ehci_hcd 0000:02:06.2: EHCI Host Controller ehci_hcd 0000:02:06.2: irq 11, pci mem 42868400 ehci_hcd 0000:02:06.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ehci_hcd 0000:02:06.2: USB 2.0 enabled, EHCI 0.95, driver 2003-Dec-29 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 5 ports detected ohci_hcd: 2004 Feb 02 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) ohci_hcd: block sizes: ed 64 td 64 ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.0: OHCI Host Controller ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.0: irq 6, pci mem 4289e000 ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 3 ports detected ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.1: OHCI Host Controller ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.1: irq 4, pci mem 428b9000 ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:1d.0 (0000 -> 0001) uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: UHCI Host Controller PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.0 to 64 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: irq 11, io base 00001000 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using address 2 drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hiddev drivers/usb/input/hid-ff.c: hid_ff_init could not find initializer input: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [Synaptics Inc. Synaptics cPad] on usb-0000:02:06.0-3 drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver EXT3 FS on hda6, internal journal Adding 1036184k swap on /dev/hda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hda3, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. ohci1394: $Rev: 1172 $ Ben Collins PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:07.0 (0000 -> 0002) PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:07.0 to 64 ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Runaway loop while stopping context: ... ohci1394: fw-host0: Runaway loop while stopping context: ... ohci1394: fw-host0: Runaway loop while stopping context: ... ohci1394: fw-host0: Runaway loop while stopping context: ... ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 165.165 (PCI): IRQ=[10] MMIO=[40000800-40000fff] Max Packet=[65536] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] IA-32 Microcode Update Driver: v1.13 microcode: No suitable data for cpu 0 ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.0: OHCI Unrecoverable Error, disabled Badness in wait_ms at include/linux/usb.h:30 Call Trace: [<428ca283>] hc_reset+0x1a2/0x203 [ohci_hcd] [<428ca5b0>] ohci_irq+0x83/0x1dc [ohci_hcd] [<4288b03d>] usb_hcd_irq+0x26/0x4b [usbcore] [<0210f19e>] handle_IRQ_event+0x21/0x41 [<0210f68a>] do_IRQ+0x1be/0x303 ======================= [<0212b3bc>] __do_softirq+0x2c/0x73 [<021103d0>] do_softirq+0x46/0x4d ======================= [<0210f7c3>] do_IRQ+0x2f7/0x303 [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0xa1 [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0xa1 [<021f3f04>] acpi_processor_idle+0xd6/0x1c8 [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0xa1 [<0210b08c>] cpu_idle+0x1f/0x34 [<0235b69b>] start_kernel+0x21d/0x220 ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.0: bad entry 30a83231 ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.0: HC died; cleaning up usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 2 ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.0: leak ed 3f416000 (#0) state 0 (has tds) ohci_hcd 0000:02:06.0: leak ed 3f416040 (#6) state 0 (has tds) snip 2. After X started and switching to a textconsole only the upper half of the font is visible. there seems to be a problem with the X vesa driver See XFree86.0.log XFree86 Version 4.3.0 (Red Hat Rawhide develomental build: 4.3.0-63) Release Date: 15 August 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-2.ELsmp i686 [ELF] Build Date: 08 March 2004 Build Host: porky.devel.redhat.com snip (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Loading sub module "vbe" (II) LoadModule: "vbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) VESA(0): initializing int10 (II) VESA(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (II) VESA(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 65536 kB (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM: NVidia (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 4.23 (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: NVidia Corporation (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: NV17 () Board (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Chip Rev A2 (**) VESA(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) VESA(0): RGB weight 565 (==) VESA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) VESA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC supported (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC Level none (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 0 sec. (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC read failed (II) VESA(0): Searching for matching VESA mode(s): snip (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a (II) VESA(0): initializing int10 (II) VESA(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (II) VESA(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 65536 kB (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM: NVidia (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 4.23 (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: NVidia Corporation (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: NV17 () Board (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Chip Rev A2 (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0xd8000000,0x4000000) (II) VESA(0): virtual address = 0xf2e5e000, physical address = 0xd8000000, size = 67108864 (EE) VESA(0): vm86() syscall generated signal 11. (II) VESA(0): EAX=0x00001c01, EBX=0x00003000, ECX=0x0000000f, EDX=0x00000001 (II) VESA(0): ESP=0x00000fd8, EBP=0x00000000, ESI=0x00000038, EDI=0x00003020 (II) VESA(0): CS=0xc000, SS=0x0100, DS=0x0000, ES=0x0000, FS=0x0000, GS=0x0000 (II) VESA(0): EIP=0x000024a5, EFLAGS=0x00033202 (II) VESA(0): code at 0x000c24a5: 26 89 3f b0 00 e8 3b b6 50 e8 ac 00 b0 01 e8 32 b6 e8 a4 00 58 e8 2b b6 f6 c1 02 74 07 26 89 7f (II) stack at 0x00001fd8: 00 20 01 00 00 30 bb 16 00 00 08 00 97 ac 0f 00 a1 16 40 00 00 00 8b 15 0d 03 06 04 02 32 40 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 32 (==) VESA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) VESA(0): Backing store disabled (**) Option "dpms" (**) VESA(0): DPMS enabled (==) RandR enabled Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA XFree86 driver not found) (**) Option "Protocol" "PS/2" (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "PS/2" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" (**) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 5 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard0" handled by legacy driver (**) Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" (**) DevInputMice: Protocol: "IMPS/2" (**) Option "AlwaysCore" (**) DevInputMice: always reports core events (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) DevInputMice: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) DevInputMice: Buttons: 5 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "DevInputMice" (type: MOUSE) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded (II) DevInputMice: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 0 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1600 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1200 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 0 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1600 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1200 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 0 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1600 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1200 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 0 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1600 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1200 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 0 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1600 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1200 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device) (II) DevInputMice: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded thanks Klaus Treichel From Peter.Onion at btinternet.com Thu Mar 11 19:15:29 2004 From: Peter.Onion at btinternet.com (Peter Onion) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:15:29 +0000 Subject: GRUB and reiserfs partitions Message-ID: <1079032529.2963.2.camel@Desktop.Wireless> I'm having no luck getting GRUB 0.92 on FC2-test1 to boot a SuSE 9.0 system on a reiserfs partition. Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure. Should GRUB be able to do this , or am I wasting my time trying ? Peter From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 11 20:23:19 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:23:19 -0500 Subject: yum update failing (problem with download.fedora.us)? Message-ID: All day long yum update is failing, is there a problem with download.fedora.us? Server: fedora stable retrygrab() failed for: http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/stable/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/stable/headers/header.info [Errno 7] HTTP Error (CannotSendRequest): From Peter.Onion at btinternet.com Thu Mar 11 20:45:44 2004 From: Peter.Onion at btinternet.com (Peter Onion) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:45:44 +0000 Subject: GRUB and reiserfs partitions In-Reply-To: <1079032529.2963.2.camel@Desktop.Wireless> References: <1079032529.2963.2.camel@Desktop.Wireless> Message-ID: <1079037943.2452.14.camel@Desktop.Wireless> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 19:15, Peter Onion wrote: > I'm having no luck getting GRUB 0.92 on FC2-test1 to boot a SuSE 9.0 > system on a reiserfs partition. > > Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure. > Should GRUB be able to do this , or am I wasting my time trying ? > Peter > Sorry to reply to my own post.... The SuSE version of GRUB will happily boot from both SuSE and Fedora partitions , so I'm happy now ! Peter From pmatilai at welho.com Thu Mar 11 20:54:42 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:54:42 +0200 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <1079030660.3127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079030660.3127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079038482.24102.15.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 20:44, Antti wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 19:32, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Antti wrote: > > > > > I've got a big problem with apt. When I try to dist-upgrade to fc2t1, > > > apt tries to remove all my kernels and doesn't try to install a new one > > > (2.6*). Ofcourse I could apt-get install kernel#2.6* after dist-upgrade > > > but I don't dare to do it. Does anyone have a solution for this? > > > > I guess something in FC2-test has "Conflicts: kernel < 2.6" thus causing > > it to be removed. I'd suggest installing the new 2.6 kernel *before* > > dist-upgrade. > > > > - Panu - > > ok, I installed kernel before I tried dist-upgrade. It suggests to > remove ALL my kernels, no matter what version. Is it possible to install > kernel after that dist-upgrade although I don't have any kernels > installed at that point. I don't have any kernels at that point but then > I'm running this old 2.4. I can't reproduce that.. running FC1 + bits from fedora.us and dist-upgrade to FC2-test (actually current devel tree) isn't wanting to remove any kernels, everything seems perfectly normal actually. Going to need more details to have a chance to even guess what's going on - is it vanilla FC1 (kernel) you're running or something else? Running dist-upgrade with "-o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1" ought to explain what's going on. - Panu - From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Mar 11 20:54:52 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:54:52 -0800 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <200403111920.56257.koreander@planet.nl> References: <200403111002.51084.mark@harddata.com> <200403111920.56257.koreander@planet.nl> Message-ID: <200403111254.56741.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Thursday 11 March 2004 10:20, Wim Bakker wrote: > , build a new kernel and than moved everything to the SATA > drive, and removed the old PATA drive. Runs fine. Until you need a rescue environment (; Been bit by this kind of setup before. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From antti at victoria.fi Thu Mar 11 21:13:03 2004 From: antti at victoria.fi (Antti) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:13:03 +0200 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <1079038482.24102.15.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079030660.3127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079038482.24102.15.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <1079039583.3127.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 22:54, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 20:44, Antti wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 19:32, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Antti wrote: > > > > > > > I've got a big problem with apt. When I try to dist-upgrade to fc2t1, > > > > apt tries to remove all my kernels and doesn't try to install a new one > > > > (2.6*). Ofcourse I could apt-get install kernel#2.6* after dist-upgrade > > > > but I don't dare to do it. Does anyone have a solution for this? > > > > > > I guess something in FC2-test has "Conflicts: kernel < 2.6" thus causing > > > it to be removed. I'd suggest installing the new 2.6 kernel *before* > > > dist-upgrade. > > > > > > - Panu - > > > > ok, I installed kernel before I tried dist-upgrade. It suggests to > > remove ALL my kernels, no matter what version. Is it possible to install > > kernel after that dist-upgrade although I don't have any kernels > > installed at that point. I don't have any kernels at that point but then > > I'm running this old 2.4. > > I can't reproduce that.. running FC1 + bits from fedora.us and > dist-upgrade to FC2-test (actually current devel tree) isn't wanting to > remove any kernels, everything seems perfectly normal actually. > > Going to need more details to have a chance to even guess what's going > on - is it vanilla FC1 (kernel) you're running or something else? > Running dist-upgrade with "-o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1" ought to > explain what's going on. > > - Panu - Ok, I get alot of this stuff: Package vconfig has broken dep on kernel Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list Continues... Added kernel-smp#2.6.1-1.65 to the remove list Considering kernel#2.6.1-1.65 2 as a solution to vconfig 2 Reinst Failed because of kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 Removing vconfig rather than change kernel Investigating nautilus-media Package nautilus-media has broken dep on libnautilus.so.2 Considering nautilus 300 as a solution to nautilus-media 2 Reinst Failed because of nautilus Removing nautilus-media rather than change libnautilus.so.2 Investigating rp-pppoe Package rp-pppoe has broken dep on kernel Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list And so on... This is the native fedora kernel since I just did a clean install to fc1. I did though run a apt-get upgrade from the fc1 updates. Should I need to run upgrade from the fc2t1 repo? -- -a From koreander at planet.nl Thu Mar 11 21:20:22 2004 From: koreander at planet.nl (Wim Bakker) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:20:22 +0100 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <200403111254.56741.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <200403111920.56257.koreander@planet.nl> <200403111254.56741.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <200403112220.22413.koreander@planet.nl> On Thursday 11 March 2004 21:54, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thursday 11 March 2004 10:20, Wim Bakker wrote: > > , build a new kernel and than moved everything to the SATA > > drive, and removed the old PATA drive. Runs fine. > > Until you need a rescue environment (; Been bit by this kind of setup > before. Nothing prohibits you from making a bootable cd with isolinux and your own kernel , and small rescue environment, I have one wb From tiku at tiku.dyndns.org Thu Mar 11 21:44:33 2004 From: tiku at tiku.dyndns.org (Timo Kujala) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:44:33 +0200 Subject: Stupid question.. process sizes (x86_64) Message-ID: <20040311214433.GA30837@tiku.dyndns.org> Hi, Just stupid question, but those VIRT/SHR values in top (and also in ps-listing) look horribly large. Is my system just messed up or is this something normal with brave new 64-bit technology :) System: x86_64, kernel 2.6.3-253 and development-version of Fedora core. PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 15453 tiku 21 0 1305m 113m 85m S 0.0 11.4 0:02.91 java 8363 root 15 0 190m 57m 150m S 0.0 5.7 0:05.68 up2date 12373 root 15 0 177m 44m 148m S 0.0 4.5 0:04.09 up2date 12391 tiku 16 0 230m 43m 147m S 0.0 4.4 0:02.98 mozilla-bin 5349 root 15 0 183m 39m 157m S 0.3 4.0 0:10.50 X 15752 root 24 0 40500 36m 6224 R 16.7 3.7 0:00.51 cc1 5822 tiku 25 10 156m 27m 142m S 0.0 2.7 0:01.42 rhn-applet-gui 5780 tiku 15 0 124m 21m 103m S 0.0 2.2 0:00.52 nautilus 5778 tiku 15 0 103m 17m 97m S 0.0 1.7 0:00.80 gnome-panel 7039 tiku 15 0 110m 17m 103m S 0.0 1.7 0:01.32 gnome-terminal 6282 tiku 15 0 102m 14m 98m S 0.0 1.5 0:01.55 xchat From jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 11 22:06:39 2004 From: jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com (James Bond) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:06:39 +0000 Subject: Fedora package management Message-ID: Hi, I am using fedora core 2 and realized that the rpm package management GUI has changed completely. I have few queries related to the fedora package management GUI (Add/Remove packages): 1: None of the options in Help Menu bar does not work in" Add and Remove Software" GUI. is there any way to get the about option working? 2: In RedHat 9, I used to double click on any RPM package on the disk, and it used to open the Red Hat RPM management GUI to install that RPM package. This functionality does not seem to be there in Fedora!! I tried to double click on a RPM package on my hard disk and it opened up a window , complaining about the "No Action Associated". Which application should i associate with RPM? 3: If I run, up2date agent on Fedora core 2 system, will it go to the right fedora repository and pick all the required package and update them? Do I have to configure anything to be able to get it working? I will appreciate, if you can answer the above queries!! Thanks Jerry _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From pmatilai at welho.com Thu Mar 11 22:16:53 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:16:53 +0200 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <1079039583.3127.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079030660.3127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079038482.24102.15.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> <1079039583.3127.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079043413.24102.23.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 23:13, Antti wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 22:54, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 20:44, Antti wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 19:32, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Antti wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've got a big problem with apt. When I try to dist-upgrade to fc2t1, > > > > > apt tries to remove all my kernels and doesn't try to install a new one > > > > > (2.6*). Ofcourse I could apt-get install kernel#2.6* after dist-upgrade > > > > > but I don't dare to do it. Does anyone have a solution for this? > > > > > > > > I guess something in FC2-test has "Conflicts: kernel < 2.6" thus causing > > > > it to be removed. I'd suggest installing the new 2.6 kernel *before* > > > > dist-upgrade. > > > > > > > > - Panu - > > > > > > ok, I installed kernel before I tried dist-upgrade. It suggests to > > > remove ALL my kernels, no matter what version. Is it possible to install > > > kernel after that dist-upgrade although I don't have any kernels > > > installed at that point. I don't have any kernels at that point but then > > > I'm running this old 2.4. > > > > I can't reproduce that.. running FC1 + bits from fedora.us and > > dist-upgrade to FC2-test (actually current devel tree) isn't wanting to > > remove any kernels, everything seems perfectly normal actually. > > > > Going to need more details to have a chance to even guess what's going > > on - is it vanilla FC1 (kernel) you're running or something else? > > Running dist-upgrade with "-o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1" ought to > > explain what's going on. > > > > - Panu - > > Ok, I get alot of this stuff: > > Package vconfig has broken dep on kernel > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > Continues... > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.1-1.65 to the remove list > Considering kernel#2.6.1-1.65 2 as a solution to vconfig 2 > Reinst Failed because of kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 > Removing vconfig rather than change kernel > Investigating nautilus-media > Package nautilus-media has broken dep on libnautilus.so.2 > Considering nautilus 300 as a solution to nautilus-media 2 > Reinst Failed because of nautilus > Removing nautilus-media rather than change libnautilus.so.2 > Investigating rp-pppoe > Package rp-pppoe has broken dep on kernel > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 > Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > And so on... Uhhuh.. that's *totally* screwy :-/ Which version of apt is this? Oh and what repository are you upgrading from? > > This is the native fedora kernel since I just did a clean install to > fc1. I did though run a apt-get upgrade from the fc1 updates. Should I > need to run upgrade from the fc2t1 repo? Nope, not necessary and nothing to do with this. - Panu - > > -- > -a > From antti at victoria.fi Thu Mar 11 22:20:21 2004 From: antti at victoria.fi (Antti) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:20:21 +0200 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <1079043413.24102.23.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079030660.3127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079038482.24102.15.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> <1079039583.3127.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079043413.24102.23.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <1079043620.3127.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 00:16, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 23:13, Antti wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 22:54, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 20:44, Antti wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 19:32, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Antti wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've got a big problem with apt. When I try to dist-upgrade to fc2t1, > > > > > > apt tries to remove all my kernels and doesn't try to install a new one > > > > > > (2.6*). Ofcourse I could apt-get install kernel#2.6* after dist-upgrade > > > > > > but I don't dare to do it. Does anyone have a solution for this? > > > > > > > > > > I guess something in FC2-test has "Conflicts: kernel < 2.6" thus causing > > > > > it to be removed. I'd suggest installing the new 2.6 kernel *before* > > > > > dist-upgrade. > > > > > > > > > > - Panu - > > > > > > > > ok, I installed kernel before I tried dist-upgrade. It suggests to > > > > remove ALL my kernels, no matter what version. Is it possible to install > > > > kernel after that dist-upgrade although I don't have any kernels > > > > installed at that point. I don't have any kernels at that point but then > > > > I'm running this old 2.4. > > > > > > I can't reproduce that.. running FC1 + bits from fedora.us and > > > dist-upgrade to FC2-test (actually current devel tree) isn't wanting to > > > remove any kernels, everything seems perfectly normal actually. > > > > > > Going to need more details to have a chance to even guess what's going > > > on - is it vanilla FC1 (kernel) you're running or something else? > > > Running dist-upgrade with "-o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1" ought to > > > explain what's going on. > > > > > > - Panu - > > > > Ok, I get alot of this stuff: > > > > Package vconfig has broken dep on kernel > > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > > > > Continues... > > > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.1-1.65 to the remove list > > Considering kernel#2.6.1-1.65 2 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > Reinst Failed because of kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 > > Removing vconfig rather than change kernel > > Investigating nautilus-media > > Package nautilus-media has broken dep on libnautilus.so.2 > > Considering nautilus 300 as a solution to nautilus-media 2 > > Reinst Failed because of nautilus > > Removing nautilus-media rather than change libnautilus.so.2 > > Investigating rp-pppoe > > Package rp-pppoe has broken dep on kernel > > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 > > Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > > And so on... > > Uhhuh.. that's *totally* screwy :-/ Which version of apt is this? > Oh and what repository are you upgrading from? > > > > > This is the native fedora kernel since I just did a clean install to > > fc1. I did though run a apt-get upgrade from the fc1 updates. Should I > > need to run upgrade from the fc2t1 repo? > > Nope, not necessary and nothing to do with this. > > - Panu - apt is # rpm -qa apt apt-0.5.15cnc3-0.1.fr I'm using the main fedora.us repo. -- -a From pmatilai at welho.com Thu Mar 11 22:27:06 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:27:06 +0200 Subject: kernel missing after apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <1079043620.3127.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079008177.3127.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079030660.3127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079038482.24102.15.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> <1079039583.3127.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1079043413.24102.23.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> <1079043620.3127.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079044026.24102.27.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 00:20, Antti wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 00:16, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 23:13, Antti wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 22:54, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 20:44, Antti wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 19:32, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Antti wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got a big problem with apt. When I try to dist-upgrade to fc2t1, > > > > > > > apt tries to remove all my kernels and doesn't try to install a new one > > > > > > > (2.6*). Ofcourse I could apt-get install kernel#2.6* after dist-upgrade > > > > > > > but I don't dare to do it. Does anyone have a solution for this? > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess something in FC2-test has "Conflicts: kernel < 2.6" thus causing > > > > > > it to be removed. I'd suggest installing the new 2.6 kernel *before* > > > > > > dist-upgrade. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Panu - > > > > > > > > > > ok, I installed kernel before I tried dist-upgrade. It suggests to > > > > > remove ALL my kernels, no matter what version. Is it possible to install > > > > > kernel after that dist-upgrade although I don't have any kernels > > > > > installed at that point. I don't have any kernels at that point but then > > > > > I'm running this old 2.4. > > > > > > > > I can't reproduce that.. running FC1 + bits from fedora.us and > > > > dist-upgrade to FC2-test (actually current devel tree) isn't wanting to > > > > remove any kernels, everything seems perfectly normal actually. > > > > > > > > Going to need more details to have a chance to even guess what's going > > > > on - is it vanilla FC1 (kernel) you're running or something else? > > > > Running dist-upgrade with "-o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1" ought to > > > > explain what's going on. > > > > > > > > - Panu - > > > > > > Ok, I get alot of this stuff: > > > > > > Package vconfig has broken dep on kernel > > > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > > Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > > Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > > > > > > > Continues... > > > > > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.1-1.65 to the remove list > > > Considering kernel#2.6.1-1.65 2 as a solution to vconfig 2 > > > Reinst Failed because of kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 > > > Removing vconfig rather than change kernel > > > Investigating nautilus-media > > > Package nautilus-media has broken dep on libnautilus.so.2 > > > Considering nautilus 300 as a solution to nautilus-media 2 > > > Reinst Failed because of nautilus > > > Removing nautilus-media rather than change libnautilus.so.2 > > > Investigating rp-pppoe > > > Package rp-pppoe has broken dep on kernel > > > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 > > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > Considering kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 > > > Added kernel-smp#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > Considering kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 0 as a solution to rp-pppoe 2 > > > Added kernel#2.6.3-2.1.253 to the remove list > > > > > > And so on... > > > > Uhhuh.. that's *totally* screwy :-/ Which version of apt is this? > > Oh and what repository are you upgrading from? > > > > > > > > This is the native fedora kernel since I just did a clean install to > > > fc1. I did though run a apt-get upgrade from the fc1 updates. Should I > > > need to run upgrade from the fc2t1 repo? > > > > Nope, not necessary and nothing to do with this. > > > > - Panu - > apt is > # rpm -qa apt > apt-0.5.15cnc3-0.1.fr > > I'm using the main fedora.us repo. Ok that *should* be an ok combination, I don't think the upgrade algorithm of apt has changed at all since that and fedora.us repo + mirrors are known to be correctly generated. Color me mystified... Please dump the whole output of the debug-run to me privately, I'll try to see whats up. - Panu - From duncric at iit.edu Thu Mar 11 22:29:02 2004 From: duncric at iit.edu (Richard Duncan) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 16:29:02 -0600 Subject: ATI Drivers fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: <20040311221501.5276.2975.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040311221501.5276.2975.Mailman@listman.back-rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4050E82E.40903@iit.edu> Works for me. It doesn't work with the FC1 packaged kernels, AFAIK, but a custom compiled or stock 2.6.3 works fine. Make sure you go into the 2.6.x folder and make instead of running the standard build_mod file. Only problem I've had with the ATI drivers are the nVidia drivers I used before I upgraded from a GF2 Ultra to a R 9600XT didn't uninstall all the way. X still was looking for a symlink to nVidia's GL libraries, but I fixed that. Now to try later today with 2.6.4... From w.steenburg at myactv.net Thu Mar 11 11:03:00 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:03:00 -0500 Subject: 3ware support in FC2 Message-ID: <1079002980.16449.5.camel@FC2> Hi, I'm considering purchasing a 3ware escalade SATA RAID controller. I assume that since the 2.6x kernel has libatta support and the card is true hardware raid I should be able to boot to the RAID array. without compiling a kernel module for it. Would anyone be able to confirm if this is or will be supported in FC2? I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks. Wayne Steenburg From w.steenburg at myactv.net Thu Mar 11 11:04:34 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:04:34 -0500 Subject: Yum conf In-Reply-To: <1078955630.3238.0.camel@T7.linux> References: <1078955630.3238.0.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1079003074.16449.7.camel@FC2> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 21:53 +0000, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > My yum.conf file seems a bit mangled. Can some kind soul please let me > know the official Fedora 1.90 yum entry? > > TTFN > > Paul [wayne at FC2 etc]$ cat yum.conf.rpmnew [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=fedora-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 #[base] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-$releasever #[updates-released] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core- $releasever #[updates-testing] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core- $releasever [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/ development/$basearch/ From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Mar 11 23:16:57 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:16:57 -0800 Subject: 3ware support in FC2 In-Reply-To: <1079002980.16449.5.camel@FC2> References: <1079002980.16449.5.camel@FC2> Message-ID: <200403111517.01334.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Thursday 11 March 2004 03:03, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > Hi, I'm considering purchasing a 3ware escalade SATA RAID controller. > I assume that since the 2.6x kernel has libatta support and the card > is true hardware raid I should be able to boot to the RAID array. > without compiling a kernel module for it. Would anyone be able to > confirm if this is or will be supported in FC2? I appreciate your > thoughts. Thanks. The 3ware card is supported, has been for quite a while. Does not use the libata patches, those are for strictly sata controllers. The 3ware card is a raid device, thus it uses a different driver set. Shows up like a SCSI disk. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've not yet tested it in 2.6 From ThatEvoGuy at insightbb.com Fri Mar 12 00:14:13 2004 From: ThatEvoGuy at insightbb.com (ThatEvoGuy) Date: 11 Mar 2004 19:14:13 -0500 Subject: Upgrading to FC2 test 1 from RH9 In-Reply-To: <20040311234856.GA15867@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1079002980.16449.5.camel@FC2> <20040311234856.GA15867@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079050453.5326.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm currently in the process of downloading FC2 test 1. I'm a current RH9 user and I'm looking to upgrade. What, if anything will I lose by doing the upgrade (e-mail settings, etc...). Is there a step by step upgrade guide available? Thanks in advance, Wayne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Runs fine. > > > > -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 1 Test 1 *x86_64* From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Fri Mar 12 00:32:03 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 01:32:03 +0100 Subject: Upgrading to FC2 test 1 from RH9 In-Reply-To: <1079050453.5326.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079002980.16449.5.camel@FC2> <20040311234856.GA15867@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1079050453.5326.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079051523.4282.218.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Fr, den 12.03.2004 schrieb ThatEvoGuy um 01:14: > I'm currently in the process of downloading FC2 test 1. I'm a current > RH9 user and I'm looking to upgrade. What, if anything will I lose by > doing the upgrade (e-mail settings, etc...). > > Is there a step by step upgrade guide available? > > Thanks in advance, > Wayne 1) please do no hijack threads: always start a new thread with an empty mail window, otherwise your mail references to a total different topic and is wrongly sorted in within mail clients 2) FC2 test 1 is what it is called: a test version for testing purposes, so things do not work perfect even not proper in all concerns 3) if you want an upgrade choose Fedora Core 1 and later, in May, Fedora Core 2 4) to upgrade to FC1 either do an online upgrade using yum or do an upgrade install using the 3 system CDs Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl Sirendipity 01:27:26 up 3 days, 1:46, load average: 0.01, 0.08, 0.23 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars From markf78 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 12 00:33:37 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 16:33:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: FC2 and 2.6.4 Message-ID: <20040312003337.8237.qmail@web11412.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- does anyone know if the just-released 2.6.4 kernel will be making it into FC2 either in test 2 or the final release? my reason for asking is that i'm interested in some of the 1394 fixes.... thanks mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From alan at redhat.com Fri Mar 12 00:50:35 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:50:35 -0500 Subject: Upgrading to FC2 test 1 from RH9 In-Reply-To: <1079050453.5326.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079002980.16449.5.camel@FC2> <20040311234856.GA15867@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1079050453.5326.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040312005035.GA3213@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 07:14:13PM -0500, ThatEvoGuy wrote: > I'm currently in the process of downloading FC2 test 1. I'm a current > RH9 user and I'm looking to upgrade. What, if anything will I lose by > doing the upgrade (e-mail settings, etc...). Very little from my own experience, however you should be aware that nobody guarantees updates from FC2 test-anything to FC2-test-next or FC2-test-final will work, just RH9->FC1 FC1->FC2 etc. So for a non testing setup you may want to go to FC1 not FC2test1 + updates (as always "make a backup before upgrading") From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri Mar 12 00:55:06 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:55:06 -0700 Subject: ATI Drivers fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: <4050E82E.40903@iit.edu> Message-ID: <001801c407cc$a92d2f10$0200000a@frank> That's what I did. I did a make from the /lib/modules/build_mod/2.6.x and it won't install. 2D works, but I want 3D. Could you explain the steps exactly? Thanks, RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Richard Duncan Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:29 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: ATI Drivers fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 Works for me. It doesn't work with the FC1 packaged kernels, AFAIK, but a custom compiled or stock 2.6.3 works fine. Make sure you go into the 2.6.x folder and make instead of running the standard build_mod file. Only problem I've had with the ATI drivers are the nVidia drivers I used before I upgraded from a GF2 Ultra to a R 9600XT didn't uninstall all the way. X still was looking for a symlink to nVidia's GL libraries, but I fixed that. Now to try later today with 2.6.4... From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri Mar 12 00:56:16 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:56:16 -0700 Subject: ATI Driver fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: <4050A671.7040002@spiritone.com> Message-ID: <001901c407cc$d3269360$0200000a@frank> I'm using FC2 T1 here. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ward Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:49 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: ATI Driver fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 Sorry, it's working for me on FC1 with stock 2.6.3 kernel ATI module generator V 2.0 ========================== initializing... build_date =Sun Feb 22 20:57:14 PST 2004 uname -a =Linux pent4 2.6.3 #2 Sun Feb 22 20:50:43 PST 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux uname -s =Linux uname -m =i686 uname -r =2.6.3 uname -v =#2 Sun Feb 22 20:50:43 PST 2004 uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel) -- From fedora at andrewfarris.com Fri Mar 12 00:56:59 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 16:56:59 -0800 Subject: yum update failing (problem with download.fedora.us)? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079053019.1028.3.camel@CirithUngol> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 15:23 -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > All day long yum update is failing, is there a problem with > download.fedora.us? Probably... too many people are using the main mirror and it timed out. Configure an alternate mirror. This faq will probably help. http://fedora.artoo.net/ It is normal for yum or up2date to fail on not downloading all the headers sometimes, especially when not using an alternate mirror. Ideally only mirrors would use the redhat servers. -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri Mar 12 01:02:37 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:02:37 -0700 Subject: ATI Drivers fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: <4050E82E.40903@iit.edu> Message-ID: <000001c407cd$b632a900$0200000a@frank> Are you using external agpgart? RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Richard Duncan Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:29 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: ATI Drivers fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 Works for me. It doesn't work with the FC1 packaged kernels, AFAIK, but a custom compiled or stock 2.6.3 works fine. Make sure you go into the 2.6.x folder and make instead of running the standard build_mod file. Only problem I've had with the ATI drivers are the nVidia drivers I used before I upgraded from a GF2 Ultra to a R 9600XT didn't uninstall all the way. X still was looking for a symlink to nVidia's GL libraries, but I fixed that. Now to try later today with 2.6.4... From fedora at networklifeline.net Fri Mar 12 01:07:50 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:07:50 -0700 Subject: up2date problems Message-ID: <20040312010750.7889.qmail@webmail-2-3.mesa1.secureserver.net> I have been unable to get an up2date to work all day today. I have core 2 installed. when I run the up2date all day today I get dependencies not being met. Now I have re-installed doing an "everything" install 6.4gb and I still get dependence errors. What give ? anyone know what is going on ? This full install is big anyway and probably slowing the machine down. I am going to re-install again to a smaller install and wait till I hear back to try to update it. BC From fedora at andrewfarris.com Fri Mar 12 01:08:33 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:08:33 -0800 Subject: Fedora package management In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079053713.1028.14.camel@CirithUngol> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 22:06 +0000, James Bond wrote: > Hi, > I am using fedora core 2 and realized that the rpm package management GUI > has changed completely. I have few queries related to the fedora package > management GUI (Add/Remove packages): Update to the latest version and test, then file bugs on bugzilla. I believe this tool is supposed to work before test 2.. but make sure to search for existing bugs. Right now there are still issues with the development version on my system, so testing is needed. This tool is probably what should be associated with rpms, eventually. It currently is not on my dev system and I don't know if there are plans for it to be (or perhaps my system is broken in that regard). > 3: If I run, up2date agent on Fedora core 2 system, will it go to the right > fedora repository and pick all the required package and update them? Do I > have to configure anything to be able to get it working? It should have the main Red Hat server configured, however that server is very overloaded and will timeout often. Configure a mirror instead (see the mirror list at fedora.redhat.com) -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From steve at rueb.com Fri Mar 12 01:45:00 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:45:00 -0600 Subject: FC1 to FC2 upgrade and LVM Message-ID: <4051161C.5060004@rueb.com> I've asked this on the fedora-list, but I'm thinking that it may really be a question for this list. I'm replacing a SCO OSR5 server in our office with FC1. I would like to use LVM for /, /var, /home, and swap. If I do this, can I expect an upgrade to FC2-final to work? i.e. is it a design goal of FC2 to seemlessly upgrade a FC1 LVM1 volume group (on which the root fs resides) to LVM2? Thanks, Steve From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Fri Mar 12 02:40:33 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:40:33 -0300 Subject: ATI Driver fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: <40507008.6090308@xmission.com> References: <40500581.4070203@xmission.com> <1079013201.25725.6.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <40507008.6090308@xmission.com> Message-ID: <40512321.8020704@margo.bijoux.nom.br> RaXeT wrote: > Have been replying through the only mode I know and that is there > feedback at: > http://apps.ati.com/linuxDfeedback/index.asp > > Hopefully they take notice. > > btw, I forgot to mention I can always successfully build any 2.4.x > kernel just fine. > > > RaXeT > I believe that all the ATI card owners that use FC then should complain, even if they use only 2D graphics and/or they use the xfree driver.. (we need to show that we arent as few linux users as they think) I'm gonna complain now (because I'm tired of trying to make this driver work...)... But I believe it wont work at all , unless many people complain (when I complained about their lack of XFree86 4.3 support some time ago [on red hat 9], they sent me a standard mail... no real answers..). As every major company , they'll only act when they see that we are a high percentage of their costumers.. -- Pedro Macedo From mrsam at courier-mta.com Fri Mar 12 02:56:43 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:56:43 -0500 Subject: Making installable DVDs. Message-ID: If I grabbed the three CD-sized ISOs, can I turn them into an installable DVD by unpacking them, combining the three Fedora/RPMS directories together, then mkisofs-ing and dvdrecord-ing the result? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am going to re-install again to a smaller install and wait till I hear back to try to update it. > Some packages need to be rebuilt for the new gstreamer. Run: yum --exclude=gstreamer update This is somewhat common with rawhide :) From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Fri Mar 12 03:02:48 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:02:48 -0300 Subject: Making installable DVDs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40512858.8050005@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Sam Varshavchik wrote: > If I grabbed the three CD-sized ISOs, can I turn them into an > installable DVD by unpacking them, combining the three Fedora/RPMS > directories together, then mkisofs-ing and dvdrecord-ing the result? Search the archives for mkdvd.sh .. this script makes a dvd from the cd images.. never tried it , but some people reported that it works... -- Pedro Macedo From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 12 03:06:30 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:06:30 -0800 Subject: security selinux error under FC2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040312030630.GC30147@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 05:54:13AM -0500, TGS wrote: > > I see this when I install rpms. > > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file > or directory > > Do I need to worry about it? Is it an error? No worry. Test is testing a list of things and SELinux is one of those things (a complex one). I doubt you want to play with SELinux so ignore the error and research SELinux in the archives so you can decide for yourself. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Fri Mar 12 03:07:36 2004 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:07:36 -0500 Subject: Making installable DVDs. In-Reply-To: <40512858.8050005@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40512858.8050005@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <40512978.4090801@atl.lmco.com> Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> If I grabbed the three CD-sized ISOs, can I turn them into an >> installable DVD by unpacking them, combining the three Fedora/RPMS >> directories together, then mkisofs-ing and dvdrecord-ing the result? > > > Search the archives for mkdvd.sh .. this script makes a dvd from the > cd images.. never tried it , but some people reported that it works... > > -- > Pedro Macedo > > No, it's mkdvdiso.sh -Doug Stewart From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Mar 12 03:21:15 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:21:15 -0500 Subject: yum update failing (problem with download.fedora.us)? References: <1079053019.1028.3.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: Andrew Farris wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 15:23 -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > >> All day long yum update is failing, is there a problem with >> download.fedora.us? > > Probably... too many people are using the main mirror and it timed out. > Configure an alternate mirror. This faq will probably help. > http://fedora.artoo.net/ > > It is normal for yum or up2date to fail on not downloading all the > headers sometimes, especially when not using an alternate mirror. > Ideally only mirrors would use the redhat servers. > No, there is something really wrong with yum. I can't seem to track it down yet. It keeps getting an exception I added some debug to urlgrabber.py. Here's what is happening: TRY #1: http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/stable/headers/header.info urlgrab: http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/stable/headers/header.info /var/cache/yum/stable/header.info 1 0 None None None urlib2.urlopen: http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/stable/headers/header.info EXCEPTION: [Errno 7] HTTP Error (BadStatusLine): But, I can invoke python and run the urllib call manually, without error python Python 2.3.3 (#1, Feb 17 2004, 11:50:50) [GCC 3.3.2 20040119 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.2-8)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import urllib2 >>> f=urllib2.urlopen ('http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/stable/headers/header.info') >>> f.info() I'm baffled. From hunter at userfriendly.net Fri Mar 12 03:20:51 2004 From: hunter at userfriendly.net (Michael Weiner) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:20:51 -0500 Subject: Making installable DVDs. In-Reply-To: <40512978.4090801@atl.lmco.com> References: <40512858.8050005@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <40512978.4090801@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <1079061650.2638.6.camel@nomad.userfriendly.net> The script --->ftp://people.redhat.com/ckloiber/mkdvdiso.sh -- Michael B. Weiner, Linux+, Linux+ SME Systems Administrator/Partner The UserFriendly Network (UFN) -- Linux Registered User #94900 Have you been counted? http://counter.li.org -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From spam at tachegroup.com Fri Mar 12 03:53:42 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:53:42 -0500 Subject: up2date and yum problems under FC2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <1079010308.11920.4.camel@binkley> Message-ID: Thanks, worked like a charm. I thought I checked everything related. on 3/11/2004 8:05 AM, seth vidal at skvidal at phy.duke.edu wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 05:52 -0500, TGS wrote: > >> I cannot get up2date and yum to work. >> >> The errors follow. I even tried to update from the latest development and >> web offerings for the libxml2 and libxslt. >> >> I do see the libxml2 stuff in /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages but they are >> missing from the /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages >> > > install the newest libxml2-python from the development tree. > > you need libxml2-python in the python 2.3 site-packages path. > > -sv > > From notting at redhat.com Fri Mar 12 04:03:35 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:03:35 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 1 Test Update: xmms-1.2.10-1.p Message-ID: <20040312040334.GA8635@devserv.devel.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-062 2004-03-11 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : xmms Version : 1.2.10 Release : 1.p Summary : A media player for X which resembles Winamp. Description : Xmms is a multimedia (Ogg Vorbis, CDs) player for the X Window System with an interface similar to Winamp's. Xmms supports playlists and streaming content and has a configurable interface. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This is a follow-on to the previous 1.2.9-1.p test update. If no new regressions are freported either in response to this, or in bugzilla, this update will be pushed live by Friday, March 19. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Thu Mar 11 2004 Bill Nottingham 1:1.2.10-1.p - update to 1.2.10 - fix buildreqs (#114857) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 3a7f41928896e9bf3ba233c0a9e7c381 SRPMS/xmms-1.2.10-1.p.src.rpm aee3ce39bebad0afb5401894ce229b2e i386/xmms-1.2.10-1.p.i386.rpm 373ffb91b70a62350e043aa40cc62600 i386/xmms-devel-1.2.10-1.p.i386.rpm e669274eac63245e7aead77acd4120f4 i386/xmms-skins-1.2.10-1.p.i386.rpm e5e9b4cda273c10aef6c84f366254c7c i386/debug/xmms-debuginfo-1.2.10-1.p.i386.rpm 3d8b7b842e251280352b53f48a0d019b x86_64/xmms-1.2.10-1.p.x86_64.rpm 6f527499c51292058224e763e5b43d2a x86_64/xmms-devel-1.2.10-1.p.x86_64.rpm 9c0a300e3c741b6aa0e4ac1b62984344 x86_64/xmms-skins-1.2.10-1.p.x86_64.rpm 792db7b89f80ca65b6eb126599cf244a x86_64/debug/xmms-debuginfo-1.2.10-1.p.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at netlyncs.com Fri Mar 12 04:20:24 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:20:24 -0600 Subject: Up2date error with file: URL In-Reply-To: <20040311163416.GA31811@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040311163416.GA31811@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1079065223.9247.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 10:34, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > yum fedora-core-rawhide file:///src/Development/$ARCH Try removing that third / after file: as that could be the problem. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From jim at jbsys.com Fri Mar 12 04:40:06 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:40:06 -0700 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question References: <200403110739.17690.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403110808.37466.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <405090B1.5030502@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <004301c407ec$19fddb80$0a01a8c0@jbsys> You might also want to try www.newegg.com. That is where I got my system. The MB was $140 with free shipping. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Stewart" To: Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: Re: amd_64 SATA status question > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jesse Keating wrote: > | On Thursday 11 March 2004 07:50, Neal D. Becker wrote: > | > |>Thanks so much for the info. I think I found the board you're talking > |>about, is this correct: > |> > |>Asus K8V Deluxe Via K8T800/Via VT8237 Lan Audio Firewire DDR 400 ATX AMD > |>64 > |>http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_C > |>ode=M&Product_Code=110201 > | > | > | That be the one. I work for Pogo Linux, and thats the board we use as > the > | base for our Athlon64 workstation. > | > | -- > | Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) > | Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) > | GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > | > | Was I helpful? Let others know: > | http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating > > What about the nForce3-based boards? Specifically, the Gigabyte GA-K8N. > ~ Does anyone have any experience with the nForce3 series of boards? Do > they Just Work with FC1-x86_64, do they work after installing nVidia's > nForce drivers for Linux, or none of the above? > > The Gigabyte appears to have an sil3512 controller on board > (http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_Spec_GA-K8N%20Pro.htm) > > I ask this because I've been pondering kitting out a rig at either > www.cyberpowerinc.com or www.buyxg.com (no offense, Jesse). Anyone have > any experience with either of those vendors? BuyXG seems to have the > cheaper prices, but I've seen some negative feedback on their Reseller > Ratings profile... > > - -- > - ---------- > Doug Stewart > Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer > Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs > > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFAUJCxN50Q8DVvcvkRArRnAJwK6TRMTfzDOGgd0WJjUWRn7XdblwCdH0zz > OUIuBmWm0Z+Mh/zDlXMiNiA= > =3R1x > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list) > From aoliva at redhat.com Fri Mar 12 04:55:03 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 12 Mar 2004 01:55:03 -0300 Subject: FC1 to FC2 upgrade and LVM In-Reply-To: <4051161C.5060004@rueb.com> References: <4051161C.5060004@rueb.com> Message-ID: On Mar 11, 2004, Steve Bergman wrote: > If I do this, can I expect an upgrade to FC2-final to work? > i.e. is it a design goal of FC2 to seemlessly upgrade a FC1 LVM1 > volume group (on which the root fs resides) to LVM2? LVM2 kernel modules are perfectly capable of using LVM1 on-disk format. I've been doing that on 5 boxes at home without any major issues. There are bugs and limitations in LVM2 as it stands now, but running into them before the final release is what testing is all about, right? :-) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Mar 12 05:00:24 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:00:24 -0500 Subject: CISCO VPN Client for Fedora Core 2 Test 1 Message-ID: <1079067624.6532.7.camel@matrix> Hi, Can anyone tell me how to get the CISCO VPN client running under Fedora Core 2 Test1? I currently have Linux Kernel "2.6.4-1.257" I believe this has compiled and worked against Red Hat 9.0. Is there a free VPN client that comes with Linux and works with CISCO VPN routers? CISCO has a build script that looks like so: ========================================================== ########################################################################### # # A script to build the linux driver. # ########################################################################### usage() { echo "$0" echo "Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 3.7.3 (A)" echo "Copyright (C) 1998-2001 Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved." echo "" echo "usage:" echo " ./driver_build.sh 'kernel_src_dir'" echo "" echo "'kernel_src_dir' is the directory containing the linux kernel sour ce" echo "" } CC=cc LD=ld KSRCDIR=$1 if [ "x$KSRCDIR" = "x" ]; then usage exit 1 fi if [ ! -d $KSRCDIR ]; then usage exit 1 fi INCLUDES="-I. -I${KSRCDIR}/include" CFLAGS="-O2 -DCNI_LINUX_INTERFACE -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DHAVE_CONFIG_H" $CC $CFLAGS $INCLUDES -c linuxcniapi.c $CC $CFLAGS $INCLUDES -c interceptor.c $CC $CFLAGS $INCLUDES -c IPSecDrvOS_linux.c $CC $CFLAGS $INCLUDES -c frag.c $LD -r -o cisco_ipsec frag.o linuxcniapi.o IPSecDrvOS_linux.o interceptor.o libdriver.so ===================================================================== -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From ehoover at mines.edu Fri Mar 12 05:18:51 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (Erich Hoover) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:18:51 -0700 Subject: ATI Drivers fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 Message-ID: <4051483B.8060709@mines.edu> It won't work with ATI kernels, but if you download a vanilla kernel and follow these directions: http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/ you should be able to get the driver to work, but have fun configuring everything in the kernel. With the (very) new ATI driver I didn't have to do anything to edit the driver - just make kernel changes, the older one I had to go through and edit the firegl_public.c file all over the place. -----Original Message----- >That's what I did. I did a make from the /lib/modules/build_mod/2.6.x and it >won't install. 2D works, but I want 3D. Could you explain the steps exactly? > >Thanks, > >RaXeT > >-----Original Message----- >From: fedora-test-list-admin redhat com >[mailto:fedora-test-list-admin redhat com] On Behalf Of Richard Duncan >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:29 PM >To: fedora-test-list redhat com >Subject: Re: ATI Drivers fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 > >Works for me. It doesn't work with the FC1 packaged kernels, AFAIK, but >a custom compiled or stock 2.6.3 works fine. Make sure you go into the >2.6.x folder and make instead of running the standard build_mod file. >Only problem I've had with the ATI drivers are the nVidia drivers I used >before I upgraded from a GF2 Ultra to a R 9600XT didn't uninstall all >the way. X still was looking for a symlink to nVidia's GL libraries, >but I fixed that. > >Now to try later today with 2.6.4... > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 12 05:30:50 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:30:50 -0500 Subject: yum update failing (problem with download.fedora.us)? In-Reply-To: References: <1079053019.1028.3.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1079069449.3418.9.camel@binkley> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 22:21 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > Andrew Farris wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 15:23 -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > > >> All day long yum update is failing, is there a problem with > >> download.fedora.us? > > > > Probably... too many people are using the main mirror and it timed out. > > Configure an alternate mirror. This faq will probably help. > > http://fedora.artoo.net/ > > > > It is normal for yum or up2date to fail on not downloading all the > > headers sometimes, especially when not using an alternate mirror. > > Ideally only mirrors would use the redhat servers. > > > > No, there is something really wrong with yum. I can't seem to track it down > yet. It keeps getting an exception > > I added some debug to urlgrabber.py. Here's what is happening: > TRY #1: > http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/stable/headers/header.info > urlgrab: > http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/stable/headers/header.info /var/cache/yum/stable/header.info > 1 0 None None None > urlib2.urlopen: > http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/stable/headers/header.info > EXCEPTION: [Errno 7] HTTP Error (BadStatusLine): This is an error we've recently caught in yum's interaction with urllib in python 2.3. Get the latest yum daily from rawhide/development and I think you'll find the problem fixed. -sv From alexl at redhat.com Fri Mar 12 08:37:51 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 12 Mar 2004 09:37:51 +0100 Subject: Fedora package management In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079080671.29202.741.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 23:06, James Bond wrote: > 2: In RedHat 9, I used to double click on any RPM package on the disk, and > it used to open the Red Hat RPM management GUI to install that RPM package. > This functionality does not seem to be there in Fedora!! I tried to double > click on a RPM package on my hard disk and it opened up a window , > complaining about the "No Action Associated". Which application should i > associate with RPM? Is this in gnome? Its possible that the rpm mimetype changed when we moved to the new shared mime database. Can you please file this in bugzilla against redhat-config-packages. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a superhumanly strong ninja photographer plagued by the memory of his family's brutal murder. She's a mentally unstable green-skinned bodyguard with a birthmark shaped like Liberty's torch. They fight crime! From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Mar 12 08:50:34 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 08:50:34 +0000 Subject: Not sure if this is my machine or something on FC1.90 Message-ID: <1079081433.10888.24.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, From time to time, the computer decided that the control key or shift key should be permanently held down, so mouse clicks act as if the ctrl key is pressed. It's like a ctrl-lock which the shift key then cancels. Cut and paste sometimes also autorepeats until I hit the escape key. I don't know if this is a hardware problem or a software problem. I have tried another keyboard on the computer and the same problem is seen. This has only happened since I started using the Fedora 2.6x kernels - my home rolled kernels don't seem to exhibit this problem. Using the official X versions from Fedora or the 4.4.0 version from the xfree86 bods makes no difference. Any suggestions on tracking what is causing this? It's damned annoying! TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong, but with authority" - Dr Who. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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TIA, Kym Farnik From davej at redhat.com Fri Mar 12 09:58:36 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:58:36 +0000 Subject: FC2 and 2.6.4 In-Reply-To: <20040312003337.8237.qmail@web11412.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040312003337.8237.qmail@web11412.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1079085516.13204.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 00:33, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > does anyone know if the just-released 2.6.4 kernel will be making it into FC2 > either in test 2 or the final release? my reason for asking is that i'm > interested in some of the 1394 fixes.... thanks yesterdays build already rebased to 2.6.4 Dave From fedora at networklifeline.net Fri Mar 12 10:31:16 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 03:31:16 -0700 Subject: up2date problems Message-ID: <20040312103116.24360.qmail@webmail-2-3.mesa1.secureserver.net> I received this response THANK YOU !! : Some packages need to be rebuilt for the new gstreamer. Run: yum --exclude=gstreamer update This is somewhat common with rawhide :) But yum says "exclude" is an invalid option > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: up2date problems > From: "BC" > Date: Thu, March 11, 2004 6:07 pm > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > I have been unable to get an up2date to work all day today. I have core > 2 installed. when I run the up2date all day today I get dependencies > not being met. Now I have re-installed doing an "everything" install > 6.4gb and I still get dependence errors. What give ? anyone know what > is going on ? This full install is big anyway and probably slowing the > machine down. I am going to re-install again to a smaller install and > wait till I hear back to try to update it. > > BC > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mail.sw.rh.rhl.beta at spam.fi.basen.net Fri Mar 12 10:34:36 2004 From: mail.sw.rh.rhl.beta at spam.fi.basen.net (Kaj J.Niemi) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:34:36 +0200 (EET) Subject: CISCO VPN Client for Fedora Core 2 Test 1 References: <1079067624.6532.7.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <20040312103436.CDB122F42B9@d111.fi.basen.net> > Can anyone tell me how to get the CISCO VPN client running under Fedora > Core 2 Test1? I currently have Linux Kernel "2.6.4-1.257" > I believe this has compiled and worked against Red Hat 9.0. I think it broke somewhere after 2.6.1. Since part of the software is distributed as binary only it would be best if you took up the issue with either you Cisco AM/SE and let them know how much you appreciate them supporting Linux and how you'd like them to release a newer version which works with later kernels. :) > Is there a free VPN client that comes with Linux and works with CISCO > VPN routers? I'm not aware of anything which would connect to VPN 3000 series concentrators through NAT and support XAUTH. FreeSWAN/OpenSWAN worked against IOS IPSec but with static keys and IPs and stuff I think. If you're uncomfortable of running the Cisco VPN Client installer on every laptop (or whatever), you can have a copy of the nosrc.rpm I've been using to build the module with. The benefits are that things get installed and removed in an organized way. It's available at . You need to place the vpnclient sources in your SOURCES (or similar) directory and recompile for your preferred kernel. // kaj From pcaulfie at redhat.com Fri Mar 12 11:27:20 2004 From: pcaulfie at redhat.com (Patrick Caulfield) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:27:20 +0000 Subject: CISCO VPN Client for Fedora Core 2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040312103436.CDB122F42B9@d111.fi.basen.net> References: <1079067624.6532.7.camel@matrix> <20040312103436.CDB122F42B9@d111.fi.basen.net> Message-ID: <20040312112720.GB7822@tykepenguin.com> On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:34:36PM +0200, Kaj J.Niemi wrote: > > Can anyone tell me how to get the CISCO VPN client running under Fedora > > Core 2 Test1? I currently have Linux Kernel "2.6.4-1.257" > > I believe this has compiled and worked against Red Hat 9.0. > > I think it broke somewhere after 2.6.1. Since part of the software is > distributed as binary only it would be best if you took up the issue > with either you Cisco AM/SE and let them know how much you appreciate > them supporting Linux and how you'd like them to release a newer version > which works with later kernels. :) > > > Is there a free VPN client that comes with Linux and works with CISCO > > VPN routers? > > I'm not aware of anything which would connect to VPN 3000 series > concentrators through NAT and support XAUTH. FreeSWAN/OpenSWAN worked > against IOS IPSec but with static keys and IPs and stuff I think. vpnc works on 2.6 kernels (it's all userspace) and connects to Cisco VPNs. I've been told it's a bit hard to get it compiled for some platforms (I'm running mine on a Debian box) but it should just be a question of using the right libgcrypt I think. see: http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/vpnc -- patrick From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Fri Mar 12 11:30:34 2004 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:30:34 +0100 Subject: FC in DVD In-Reply-To: <1076955118.4661.4.camel@ckk.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1076755790.10281.1.camel@tatxe.saladelfrio.com> <1076768838.29300.5.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <4030CBFD.10603@atl.lmco.com> <1076955118.4661.4.camel@ckk.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079091034.4149.2.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 19:11, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > Patrick wrote: > > > > | Here is a script that Chris Kloiber of Red Hat made for FC1. Haven't > > | tried it. YMMV. > > | > > > > I've tried it out. It works flawlessly with FC1, RHEL WS 3, and RH9 ISO > > images. Very handy (no more disc monkeying! W00t!) > > Thanks. I'm considering a rewrite though. It does have a few nasty bugs > as it is. > > -- > Chris Kloiber, RHCX > Red Hat, Inc. > Hi Chris, Any idea if you can find the time to include/make available the upgraded script when FC2T2 will be released? Sure would be handy to be able to slap together a DVD image and not have to juggle discs around. Thanks, Patrick From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 12 11:30:45 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 06:30:45 -0500 Subject: up2date problems In-Reply-To: <20040312103116.24360.qmail@webmail-2-3.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040312103116.24360.qmail@webmail-2-3.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1079091045.6405.3.camel@binkley> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 03:31 -0700, BC wrote: > I received this response THANK YOU !! : > > Some packages need to be rebuilt for the new gstreamer. Run: > > yum --exclude=gstreamer update > > This is somewhat common with rawhide :) > > But yum says "exclude" is an invalid option > you've got an outdated version of yum. update to the daily from rawhide. -sv From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Mar 12 12:14:32 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:14:32 -0500 Subject: CISCO VPN Client for Fedora Core 2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040312112720.GB7822@tykepenguin.com> References: <1079067624.6532.7.camel@matrix> <20040312103436.CDB122F42B9@d111.fi.basen.net> <20040312112720.GB7822@tykepenguin.com> Message-ID: <1079093672.6532.25.camel@matrix> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 06:27, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:34:36PM +0200, Kaj J.Niemi wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me how to get the CISCO VPN client running under Fedora > > > Core 2 Test1? I currently have Linux Kernel "2.6.4-1.257" > > > I believe this has compiled and worked against Red Hat 9.0. > > > > I think it broke somewhere after 2.6.1. Since part of the software is > > distributed as binary only it would be best if you took up the issue > > with either you Cisco AM/SE and let them know how much you appreciate > > them supporting Linux and how you'd like them to release a newer version > > which works with later kernels. :) > > > > > Is there a free VPN client that comes with Linux and works with CISCO > > > VPN routers? > > > > I'm not aware of anything which would connect to VPN 3000 series > > concentrators through NAT and support XAUTH. FreeSWAN/OpenSWAN worked > > against IOS IPSec but with static keys and IPs and stuff I think. > > vpnc works on 2.6 kernels (it's all userspace) and connects to Cisco VPNs. > Cool > I've been told it's a bit hard to get it compiled for some platforms (I'm > running mine on a Debian box) but it should just be a question of using the > right libgcrypt I think. > Okay, I have found an RPM vpnc-0.2pre7-1.i386.rpm for RedHat. Is there anything newer or possibly a "src.rpm"? I will try this. > see: > http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/vpnc > > > -- > > patrick -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From pgraner at redhat.com Fri Mar 12 12:22:57 2004 From: pgraner at redhat.com (Pete Graner) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:22:57 -0500 Subject: CISCO VPN Client for Fedora Core 2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040312112720.GB7822@tykepenguin.com> References: <1079067624.6532.7.camel@matrix> <20040312103436.CDB122F42B9@d111.fi.basen.net> <20040312112720.GB7822@tykepenguin.com> Message-ID: <1079094177.5062.6.camel@zorak.vienna.redhat.com> You can find the source to VPNC here: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/vpnc It hard to compile, because the author uses his own make/autoconf replacement called make++ Once you get that build the vpnc binary builds easily. Pete On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 06:27, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:34:36PM +0200, Kaj J.Niemi wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me how to get the CISCO VPN client running under Fedora > > > Core 2 Test1? I currently have Linux Kernel "2.6.4-1.257" > > > I believe this has compiled and worked against Red Hat 9.0. > > > > I think it broke somewhere after 2.6.1. Since part of the software is > > distributed as binary only it would be best if you took up the issue > > with either you Cisco AM/SE and let them know how much you appreciate > > them supporting Linux and how you'd like them to release a newer version > > which works with later kernels. :) > > > > > Is there a free VPN client that comes with Linux and works with CISCO > > > VPN routers? > > > > I'm not aware of anything which would connect to VPN 3000 series > > concentrators through NAT and support XAUTH. FreeSWAN/OpenSWAN worked > > against IOS IPSec but with static keys and IPs and stuff I think. > > vpnc works on 2.6 kernels (it's all userspace) and connects to Cisco VPNs. > > I've been told it's a bit hard to get it compiled for some platforms (I'm > running mine on a Debian box) but it should just be a question of using the > right libgcrypt I think. > > see: > http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/vpnc > > > -- > > patrick -- Pete Graner Red Hat Enterprise Architect Office: 703-464-1220 Mobile: 703-727-6336 Pager: 877-226-7706 Pager Email: 8772267706 at skytel.com Red Hat Inc. 1608 Spring Hill Road, Suite 350 Vienna, VA 22182 www.redhat.com From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Mar 12 12:16:52 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:16:52 -0500 Subject: CISCO VPN Client for Fedora Core 2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040312103436.CDB122F42B9@d111.fi.basen.net> References: <1079067624.6532.7.camel@matrix> <20040312103436.CDB122F42B9@d111.fi.basen.net> Message-ID: <1079093812.6532.28.camel@matrix> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 05:34, Kaj J.Niemi wrote: > > Can anyone tell me how to get the CISCO VPN client running under Fedora > > Core 2 Test1? I currently have Linux Kernel "2.6.4-1.257" > > I believe this has compiled and worked against Red Hat 9.0. > > I think it broke somewhere after 2.6.1. Since part of the software is > distributed as binary only it would be best if you took up the issue > with either you Cisco AM/SE and let them know how much you appreciate > them supporting Linux and how you'd like them to release a newer version > which works with later kernels. :) Will do. > > > Is there a free VPN client that comes with Linux and works with CISCO > > VPN routers? > > I'm not aware of anything which would connect to VPN 3000 series > concentrators through NAT and support XAUTH. FreeSWAN/OpenSWAN worked > against IOS IPSec but with static keys and IPs and stuff I think. > > If you're uncomfortable of running the Cisco VPN Client installer on > every laptop (or whatever), you can have a copy of the nosrc.rpm I've > been using to build the module with. The benefits are that things get > installed and removed in an organized way. It's available at > . You need to place the vpnclient sources > in your SOURCES (or similar) directory and recompile for your preferred > kernel. Sounds good. > > > > // kaj -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From hunter at userfriendly.net Fri Mar 12 12:25:34 2004 From: hunter at userfriendly.net (Michael Weiner) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:25:34 -0500 Subject: CISCO VPN Client for Fedora Core 2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <1079093672.6532.25.camel@matrix> References: <1079067624.6532.7.camel@matrix> <20040312103436.CDB122F42B9@d111.fi.basen.net> <20040312112720.GB7822@tykepenguin.com> <1079093672.6532.25.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1079094334.2638.14.camel@nomad.userfriendly.net> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 07:14, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Okay, I have found an RPM vpnc-0.2pre7-1.i386.rpm for RedHat. Is > there anything newer or possibly a "src.rpm"? I will try this. http://files.hadess.net/redhat/perso/source/ -- Michael B. Weiner, Linux+, Linux+ SME Systems Administrator/Partner The UserFriendly Network (UFN) -- Linux Registered User #94900 Have you been counted? http://counter.li.org -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From pernzer at redhat.com Fri Mar 12 13:34:22 2004 From: pernzer at redhat.com (Patrick C. F. Ernzer) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:34:22 +0100 Subject: CISCO VPN Client for Fedora Core 2 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <1079094177.5062.6.camel@zorak.vienna.redhat.com> References: <1079067624.6532.7.camel@matrix> <20040312103436.CDB122F42B9@d111.fi.basen.net> <20040312112720.GB7822@tykepenguin.com> <1079094177.5062.6.camel@zorak.vienna.redhat.com> Message-ID: <45610000.1079098462@[172.16.2.103]> Hiho, --On Friday, March 12, 2004 07:22:57 AM -0500 Pete Graner wrote: > You can find the source to VPNC here: > > http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/vpnc The current, maintained, ome of vpnc is at http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/ As it has been said on the list already, there are RPMS at RU PCFE -- Senior Consultant Red Hat GmbH From DvdBtty at netscape.net Fri Mar 12 13:49:58 2004 From: DvdBtty at netscape.net (David McCormick) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 08:49:58 -0500 Subject: ARCHIVES Message-ID: <4051C006.1090401@netscape.net> I was trying to find the thread to make a mouse work with the 2.6.3... kernel and went to the list archives but couldn't find it and also the latest entries were last month. I am not sure that I was in the right place. Can someone point me to the right place or give me the required entries to get the mouse to work. AMD-FX, USB optical mouse. Thanks. David McCormick From joe at rawsonoaks.com Fri Mar 12 14:09:21 2004 From: joe at rawsonoaks.com (Joe Frohne) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 08:09:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <000201c40813$1bbe8c90$0101010a@whitestar> References: <1078907618.29202.662.camel@localhost.localdomain> <000201c40813$1bbe8c90$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: <33123.129.89.123.64.1079100561.squirrel@www.frohne.org> Hi, I have installed 10g on FC2T1 with no problems at all. Everything worked fine. Just remember to comment out the platform specific check in the install scripts and you should be good to go. -- Joe Frohne Rawson Oaks Consulting, Remote Oracle Admins http://www.rawsonoaks.com joe at rawsonoaks.com or joe at frohne.org Oak Creek, WI, USA -- There are no impossible dreams. > Has anyone tried to install Oracle 10g (10.1.0.2) on FC2T1? > > If so any joy? What issues? > > I am about to try it! > > TIA, Kym Farnik > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > From fedora at networklifeline.net Fri Mar 12 14:14:48 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:14:48 -0700 Subject: up2date problems Message-ID: <20040312141448.4569.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> Ok I updated the yum app and tried again. Please help I can't do a full update. here is the error I am getting now: yum --exclude=gstreamer update [root@********.***#yum --exclude=gstreamer update Unable to find pid Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package rhythmbox needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package rhythmbox needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package gnome-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package gstreamer-plugins needs /usr/bin/gst-register-0.7, this is not available. Package gstreamer-plugins needs gstreamer >= 0.7.5, this is not available. Package gstreamer-plugins needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package gstreamer-plugins needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package sound-juicer needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package nautilus-media needs gstreamer >= 0.7.4, this is not available. Package nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package gnome-applets needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Fri Mar 12 14:47:53 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:47:53 +0000 Subject: sndconfig Message-ID: <1079102872.7815.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Using the included fedora kernel I get the following message when I run sndconfig...Any advice appreciated ? ? You don't seem to be running a kernel with modular sound ? ? enabled. (soundcore.o was not found in the module search path). ? ? To use sndconfig, you must be running a kernel with modular ? ? sound, such as the kernel shipped with Red Hat Linux or a 2.2 ? ? or greater kernel. Regards Ted From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Mar 12 15:25:50 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:25:50 +0000 Subject: System not retaining last used volume levels Message-ID: <1079105150.1714.33.camel@T6.linux> Hi, At the weekend I changed from my trusty ol' ES1371 soundcard to an Audigy Soundblaster 5.1 jobbie (it has the firewire, the front panel and wotnot on - lovely full duplex system). FC 1.90 picked up the change and the installed what it needed to install. The only problem now is that when I need to do any form of reset, the last used volume settings are lost and it is reduced to working at half volume. What do I need to set for the volume levels to be retained between resets? TTFN Paul -- One OS to fool them all One browser to find them One email client to bring them all And through security holes, blind them... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bcs at metacon.ca Fri Mar 12 15:48:42 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:48:42 -0400 Subject: System not retaining last used volume levels In-Reply-To: <1079105150.1714.33.camel@T6.linux> References: <1079105150.1714.33.camel@T6.linux> Message-ID: <1079106521.6567.0.camel@zephyr> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 11:25, Paul wrote: > What do I need to set for the volume levels to be retained between > resets? Something like this in /etc/modprobe.conf: install sound-slot-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl restore && /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove sound-slot-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From bcs at metacon.ca Fri Mar 12 16:30:58 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:30:58 -0400 Subject: Up2date error with file: URL In-Reply-To: <1079065223.9247.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <20040311163416.GA31811@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1079065223.9247.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1079109058.6567.9.camel@zephyr> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 00:20, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 10:34, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > > yum fedora-core-rawhide file:///src/Development/$ARCH > > Try removing that third / after file: as that could be the problem. No, that's not the problem, it's part of the file path... /src/Development/$ARCH . Without it, the file path would be relative instead of absolute, and probably wouldn't work. Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Mar 12 16:35:00 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:35:00 -0500 Subject: still LVM2 failure in linux-2.6.3-2.1.253 Message-ID: I just tried the latest linux-2.6.3-2.1.253. Updated everything. I have lvm2/ext3 root. I get: no such device or address while trying to open /dev/Volume01/LogVol00 (this is my lvm root). (drops into root shell for repair) linux-2.6.1-1.65 works fine. Any clues? From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Mar 12 16:39:01 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:39:01 -0500 Subject: yum question Message-ID: I was doing a massive update on a remote system (to fedora FC1/updates) when it was rebooted by a clueless user at the console. It had installed all the packages and was doing postinstall config. Can I recover from this? Will it restart the postinstall configs, or is there something I can do? From koreander at planet.nl Fri Mar 12 18:28:26 2004 From: koreander at planet.nl (Wim Bakker) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 19:28:26 +0100 Subject: amd_64 SATA status question In-Reply-To: <4051031A.3070106@austin.rr.com> References: <200403111920.56257.koreander@planet.nl> <4051031A.3070106@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <200403121928.26407.koreander@planet.nl> On Friday 12 March 2004 01:23, Jason Knight wrote: > How do you configure Grub for the bootup? (Ie: how do you know what > drive Grub sees the sata drive as?) > > Wim Bakker wrote: > >I have the S2875 with SI3114 running just fine with stock 2.6.3 > >kernel. I used an old small PATA drive to do the initial installation > >, build a new kernel and than moved everything to the SATA > >drive, and removed the old PATA drive. Runs fine. This is my device map after run grub-install --recheck: ------- (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/sda ------ With scsi sata sil support enabled. I don't think grub makes a difference between a scsi and an ide drive that way, the first drive is (hd0) , if there's also a PATA drive , that becomes (hd0) and the SATA drive becomes (hd1) , grub lists ide drives first and then scsi drives , with scsi sata support , sata drives become scsi drives. From hellcat at hispeed.ch Fri Mar 12 19:12:32 2004 From: hellcat at hispeed.ch (RJ) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:12:32 +0100 Subject: NVIDIA & Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.283 In-Reply-To: <20040309080625.GA28042@ee.oulu.fi> References: <4049B45C.7020706@hispeed.ch> <4049BDAF.5040505@gmx.de> <4049E355.9080108@hispeed.ch> <1078609789.3590.3.camel@CirithUngol> <20040309080625.GA28042@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: <40520BA0.7000008@hispeed.ch> Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 01:49:49PM -0800, Andrew Farris wrote: > >>Are there any relevant changes to the kernel config between the version >>that worked and any that don't? The configs are all included in the >>kernel-source package. > > > CONFIG_4KSTACKS is the likely suspect, minion.de says it's not compatible > with the driver and the latest kernels have that enabled. > Yup, it is the 4k Stacks. I rebuilt the newest kernel today with this option disabled and the nvidia driver works without hanging on X start up. I had some trouble with TUX(New Linux Network acceleration) had to disable this too. Otherwise i had some unresolved symbols. Is there any particular reason why this option was enabled in the latest kernels? RJ From fedora at networklifeline.net Fri Mar 12 20:12:36 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:12:36 -0700 Subject: yum problem failed deps Message-ID: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> Ok I haven't received any responses on this so I guess noone else has this dependency problem. Did everybody do a full everything install of 6.4gb ? I did a reg install and have not been able to update for 2 days. I had this fully installed last week and had no problems. I just re-installed to start over with testing. Any ideas why updating is failing. I have tried up2date and yum. BC yum --exclude=gstreamer update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package rhythmbox needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package rhythmbox needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package gnome-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package gstreamer-plugins needs /usr/bin/gst-register-0.7, this is not available. Package gstreamer-plugins needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package gstreamer-plugins needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package sound-juicer needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. Package gnome-applets needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. [root at Penguin1 etc]# From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Mar 12 20:17:02 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:17:02 -0500 Subject: yum problem failed deps In-Reply-To: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <200403121517.02876.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Yes, same results here. From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Fri Mar 12 20:27:21 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:27:21 +0100 Subject: yum problem failed deps Message-ID: <1079123241.26955.7.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> I get this error as well. I managed to get around by updating only parts of the whole list instead of updating everything at once. Maybe this is kind of circle dependency, where some packages has to be updated first before you could even start updating the others. I would expect up2date/ yum to be able to resolve that. Regards, Chris From bcs at metacon.ca Fri Mar 12 20:31:53 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:31:53 -0400 Subject: yum problem failed deps In-Reply-To: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1079123513.6567.52.camel@zephyr> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 16:12, BC wrote: > Ok I haven't received any responses on this so I guess noone else has this dependency problem. Did everybody do a full everything install of 6.4gb ? I did a reg install and have not been able to update for 2 days. I had this fully installed last week and had no problems. I just re-installed to start over with testing. Any ideas why updating is failing. I have tried up2date and yum. > Rawhide (where FC2 test releases get their updates from) will periodically be out of sync with itself. Life as a tester is never simple. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From w.steenburg at myactv.net Fri Mar 12 08:54:39 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 03:54:39 -0500 Subject: up2date problems In-Reply-To: <20040312141448.4569.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> References: <20040312141448.4569.qmail@webmail-2-1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1079081679.2324.9.camel@FC2> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 07:14 -0700, BC wrote: > Ok I updated the yum app and tried again. Please help I can't do a full update. It worked fine for me, [root at FC2 wayne]# yum --exclude=gstreamer update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora.us Extras (Stable) Server: Fedora.us Extras (Testing) Server: Livna.org - Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) Server: Livna.org - Fedora Compatible Packages (testing) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Released Updates Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Dependencies resolved I will do the following: [update: pango 1.3.6-1.i386] [update: postgresql-libs 7.4.2-1.i386] I will install/upgrade these to satisfy the dependencies: [deps: alsa-utils 1.0.2-2.i386] Is this ok [y/N]: n What version of yum are you using? [root at FC2 wayne]# rpm -q yum yum-2.0.5.20040303-1 Also the "Unable to find pid" line in your post looks rather suspicious. I know in FC1 if yum exited abnormaly you could not re-run it. The error was something about a pid lock. Rebooting solved that problem for me, although I'm sure there was probably a better method. There might be a connection. Sorry I can't give you any specific instructions, but I hope this helps. Wayne Steenburg From w.steenburg at myactv.net Fri Mar 12 09:00:26 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 04:00:26 -0500 Subject: yum problem failed deps In-Reply-To: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1079082026.2324.13.camel@FC2> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 13:12 -0700, BC wrote: > Ok I haven't received any responses on this so I guess noone else has this dependency problem. Did everybody do a full everything install of 6.4gb ? I did a reg install and have not been able to update for 2 days. I had this fully installed last week and had no problems. I just re-installed to start over with testing. Any ideas why updating is failing. I have tried up2date and yum. > > BC I just replied to your prior post. (I hadn't gotten to this one yet). It worked fine for me on a regular install. I had a couple ideas which may or may not be of help. From georg at georgs.org Fri Mar 12 21:00:16 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:00:16 +0100 Subject: yum problem failed deps In-Reply-To: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <405224E0.6040306@georgs.org> BC wrote: >Ok I haven't received any responses on this so I guess noone else has this dependency problem. Did everybody do a full everything install of 6.4gb ? I did a reg install and have not been able to update for 2 days. I had this fully installed last week and had no problems. I just re-installed to start over with testing. Any ideas why updating is failing. I have tried up2date and yum. > >BC > > > yum --exclude=gstreamer update >Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) >Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree >Finding updated packages >Downloading needed headers >Resolving dependencies >.....Unable to satisfy dependencies >Package rhythmbox needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.6, this is not available. >Package rhythmbox needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. >Package gnome-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. >Package gstreamer-plugins needs /usr/bin/gst-register-0.7, this is not available. >Package gstreamer-plugins needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.6, this is not available. >Package gstreamer-plugins needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. >Package sound-juicer needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. >Package nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. >Package gnome-applets needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. >[root at Penguin1 etc]# > > > > rpm -qpl http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/gstreamer-0.7.6-2.i386.rpm ...... /usr/lib/libgstcontrol-0.8.so /usr/lib/libgstcontrol-0.8.so.0 /usr/lib/libgstcontrol-0.8.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.8.so /usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.8.so.0 /usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.8.so.0.0.0 .... Therefore not all deps are solved. greetigs Georg E Schneider From w.steenburg at myactv.net Fri Mar 12 21:03:38 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:03:38 -0500 Subject: yum problem failed deps In-Reply-To: <1079082026.2324.13.camel@FC2> References: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> <1079082026.2324.13.camel@FC2> Message-ID: <1079125418.2324.14.camel@FC2> Sorry for past dating. I just adjusted my clock :) From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Fri Mar 12 21:13:18 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:13:18 +0100 Subject: evolution crashes Message-ID: <1079125998.26955.12.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> Hi Folks! When I select a message in the overview or open it and click on "reply" it crashes. Is somebody else encountering this behavour? Is there a update/fix/workaround available. Regards, Chris From bcs at metacon.ca Fri Mar 12 21:19:28 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:19:28 -0400 Subject: evolution crashes In-Reply-To: <1079125998.26955.12.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> References: <1079125998.26955.12.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> Message-ID: <1079126368.6567.61.camel@zephyr> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:13, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: > Hi Folks! > > When I select a message in the overview or open it and click on "reply" > it crashes. Is somebody else encountering this behavour? Is there a > update/fix/workaround available. What's the output of "rpm -q evolution"? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 12 21:26:35 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Needs a Hat Mitchell) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:26:35 -0800 Subject: yum update failing (problem with download.fedora.us)? In-Reply-To: <1079053019.1028.3.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1079053019.1028.3.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <20040312212635.GC7046@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 04:56:59PM -0800, Andrew Farris wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 15:23 -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > > All day long yum update is failing, is there a problem with > > download.fedora.us? > > Probably... too many people are using the main mirror and it timed out. > Configure an alternate mirror. This faq will probably help. > http://fedora.artoo.net/ Is is possible to add a reminder to check a site for hints on setting up mirrors to yum and up2date. This is such a COMMON question that if FCn is going to be popular it needs to be addressed. Perhaps in the tool "yum configmirror" or "up2date --config" There could even be a package yum-up2date-mirrors*.rpm or a web site to distribute information on the famous mirrors. To start all it needs to have is a man page of text. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Fri Mar 12 21:27:56 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:27:56 +0100 (CET) Subject: evolution crashes In-Reply-To: <1079126368.6567.61.camel@zephyr> References: <1079125998.26955.12.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> <1079126368.6567.61.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <42563.192.168.0.1.1079126876.squirrel@gandalf> > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:13, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: >> Hi Folks! >> >> When I select a message in the overview or open it and click on "reply" >> it crashes. Is somebody else encountering this behavour? Is there a >> update/fix/workaround available. > > What's the output of "rpm -q evolution"? evolution-1.5.3-1 From georg at georgs.org Fri Mar 12 21:28:56 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:28:56 +0100 Subject: yum problems In-Reply-To: <404F5444.5030508@georgs.org> References: <404F5444.5030508@georgs.org> Message-ID: <40522B98.9080505@georgs.org> Georg E Schneider wrote: > It's the same if I use yum from FC2-test1 or the development package > from yum. > If I download a package whitch is ca. in 20 MB size yum seems to hang > (package completly downloaded, but the next wont start) if it's over > 30 or under 15 MB yum works fine. > I don't know what it is because ther are absolutly no messages in > yum.log log/messages etc... > Im using the ftp-server from tu-chemnitz. > > greetings > Georg E Schneider > Strange ! now I had 4 Days problems with it Then I set yesterday set the highest debug-level to find the error, but now it works fine ? greetigs Georg E Schneider From bcs at metacon.ca Fri Mar 12 21:32:09 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:32:09 -0400 Subject: evolution crashes In-Reply-To: <42563.192.168.0.1.1079126876.squirrel@gandalf> References: <1079125998.26955.12.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> <1079126368.6567.61.camel@zephyr> <42563.192.168.0.1.1079126876.squirrel@gandalf> Message-ID: <1079127128.6567.72.camel@zephyr> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:27, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:13, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: > >> Hi Folks! > >> > >> When I select a message in the overview or open it and click on "reply" > >> it crashes. Is somebody else encountering this behavour? Is there a > >> update/fix/workaround available. > > > > What's the output of "rpm -q evolution"? > > evolution-1.5.3-1 That's a beta version that's not going to be ready for FC2. Downgrade to evolution 1.4 and things will (most likely) work. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From je.hendriks at hccnet.nl Fri Mar 12 21:35:30 2004 From: je.hendriks at hccnet.nl (je.hendriks at hccnet.nl) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:35:30 UT Subject: problem with fsck after installing core 2 test 1 Message-ID: <200403122135.i2CLZVQt002841@smtp10.hccnet.nl> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From w.steenburg at myactv.net Fri Mar 12 21:38:16 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:38:16 -0500 Subject: evolution crashes In-Reply-To: <1079127128.6567.72.camel@zephyr> References: <1079125998.26955.12.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> <1079126368.6567.61.camel@zephyr> <42563.192.168.0.1.1079126876.squirrel@gandalf> <1079127128.6567.72.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1079127496.2324.17.camel@FC2> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:32 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:27, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: > > > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:13, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: > > >> Hi Folks! > > >> > > >> When I select a message in the overview or open it and click on "reply" > > >> it crashes. Is somebody else encountering this behavour? Is there a > > >> update/fix/workaround available. > > > > > > What's the output of "rpm -q evolution"? > > > > evolution-1.5.3-1 > > That's a beta version that's not going to be ready for FC2. Downgrade > to evolution 1.4 and things will (most likely) work. > > -- > Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 > http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves > I also use this version and have had no such problems. Did you upgrade from a prior version or did you perform a fresh install of FC2t1? From fedora at andrewfarris.com Fri Mar 12 21:48:57 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:48:57 -0800 Subject: evolution crashes In-Reply-To: <1079127128.6567.72.camel@zephyr> References: <1079125998.26955.12.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> <1079126368.6567.61.camel@zephyr> <42563.192.168.0.1.1079126876.squirrel@gandalf> <1079127128.6567.72.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1079128136.2663.6.camel@CirithUngol> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:32 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:27, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: > > evolution-1.5.3-1 > > That's a beta version that's not going to be ready for FC2. Downgrade > to evolution 1.4 and things will (most likely) work. If you don't downgrade and test the 1.4.x version that will release in FC2 you can update to the latest build of 1.5.x which Jeremy Katz is maintaining while he works with it. It would be better to downgrade since 1.4 needs testing for FC2 and it is a more stable release as well, but this is an option to you. You'll find the latest rpms for 1.5.x at: http://people.redhat.com/katzj/evolution/ You can set this as a yum entry as well. If you downgrade you'll have to manually revert several packages, at least (but maybe more): gtkhtml3, libgal2, and libsoup The downgrade is discussed in the archives if you need more info. -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Fri Mar 12 21:50:11 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:50:11 +0100 (CET) Subject: evolution crashes In-Reply-To: <1079127496.2324.17.camel@FC2> References: <1079125998.26955.12.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> <1079126368.6567.61.camel@zephyr> <42563.192.168.0.1.1079126876.squirrel@gandalf> <1079127128.6567.72.camel@zephyr> <1079127496.2324.17.camel@FC2> Message-ID: <42620.192.168.0.1.1079128211.squirrel@gandalf> > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:32 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: >> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:27, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: >> > > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:13, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: >> > >> Hi Folks! >> > >> >> > >> When I select a message in the overview or open it and click on >> "reply" >> > >> it crashes. Is somebody else encountering this behavour? Is there a >> > >> update/fix/workaround available. >> > > >> > > What's the output of "rpm -q evolution"? >> > >> > evolution-1.5.3-1 >> >> That's a beta version that's not going to be ready for FC2. Downgrade >> to evolution 1.4 and things will (most likely) work. >> > I also use this version and have had no such problems. Did you upgrade > from a prior version or did you perform a fresh install of FC2t1? It?s a fresh install with the (almost) latest updates. Are there any logs to trace what happens? From georg at georgs.org Fri Mar 12 21:56:07 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:56:07 +0100 Subject: problem with fsck after installing core 2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <200403122135.i2CLZVQt002841@smtp10.hccnet.nl> References: <200403122135.i2CLZVQt002841@smtp10.hccnet.nl> Message-ID: <405231F7.5050304@georgs.org> je.hendriks at hccnet.nl wrote: >Hi, > >until today I had the following configuration: > >hda1=windows xp >hda5=boot for mandrake >hda6=fedora core 1 >hda7=swap for fedora >hda8=swap for mandrake >hda9=mandrake > >i decided to install core 2 test 1 of fedora over mandrake. so in start installing i place the /boot on hda5 and the / on hda9. >i chose to install everything. (enough space :P) and i booted into fedora core2. >there i added core 1 to the grub.conf file: > >default=0 >timeout=10 >splashimage=(hd0,5)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz >title Fedora Core 2 test 1 (2.6.1-1.65) > root (hd0,5) > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.1-1.65 ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb > initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.1-1.65.img >title Fedora Core 1 (2.4.22-1.2115.nptl) > root (hd0,4) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdd=ide-scsi rhgb > initrd /initrd-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl.img >title Windows XP > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > chainloader +1 > >I reboot the pc and core 1 is available in the grub list so i select it. then it starts booting, but it gives a fchk error signal 11 on device with label /mnt/mandrake this is hda9 the one i changed into fedora core 2. > >it gets me to a command shell, but now i have no idea how to solve the problem. > >im running core 2 now, but core 1 has everything in it. > >another problem: core 2 didnt mount any partition, and i want it to mount my partitions automaticly, how? > You got to modify the file /etc/fstab. on core 1: use instead the label the real partition, or modify to the mandrake label entry to /1 on core 2: make the right entries. ps: I see no real reason for two swap partitions. greetings Georg E Schneider From je.hendriks at hccnet.nl Fri Mar 12 22:11:08 2004 From: je.hendriks at hccnet.nl (je.hendriks at hccnet.nl) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:11:08 UT Subject: problem with fsck after installing core 2 test 1 Message-ID: <200403122211.i2CMB8Qt014806@smtp10.hccnet.nl> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From stephen at skmoore.com Fri Mar 12 22:16:53 2004 From: stephen at skmoore.com (Stephen Moore) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:16:53 +1000 Subject: rpm seems very slow Message-ID: <405236D5.3020501@skmoore.com> I have noticed that rpm seems very slow and uses a lot of cpu now. I particularly noticed when uninstalling a old kernel with rpm -e times in the order of several minutes. I did the same on a FC1 system and found uninstall times to be much faster [root at xeon root]# time rpm -e kernel-smp-2.4.22-1.2132.nptl real 0m7.205s user 0m0.490s sys 0m0.460s https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118187 -- ??? From mark at harddata.com Fri Mar 12 22:19:06 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:19:06 -0700 Subject: kernel 2.6.3 (x86_64), module loading on demand In-Reply-To: <20040309105958.GB27508@tiku.dyndns.org> References: <20040309105958.GB27508@tiku.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200403121519.07097.mark@harddata.com> On March 9, 2004 03:59 am, Timo Kujala wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Core 1 from iso's and then updated it to development version > with up2date. And now I'm hitting the bug 117411, kernel no longer loads > modules on demand. Everything works just fine if modules are modprobe'd > manually. Is someone using x86_64 actually been able to get kernel 2.6.3 > working? > 117411 is a bug I posted. It seems to be a bug in 2.6.3. I have now updated to 2.6.4 with the x86_64-2.6.4rc3 patch from ftp.x86-64.org and the problem has disappeared. > This occurs both on vanilla 2.6.3 and 2.6.3-2.1.242. > > How is this module loading through kmod even supposed to work? > I have seen it work in i386 with the 2.6.3-2.1.xxx kernels. For instance my oss compat modules for alsa only load when they are needed. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Fri Mar 12 23:23:14 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:23:14 -0500 Subject: yum problem failed deps In-Reply-To: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1079133793.3299.2.camel@family> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 13:12 -0700, BC wrote: > Ok I haven't received any responses on this so I guess noone else has this dependency problem. Did everybody do a full everything install of 6.4gb ? I did a reg install and have not been able to update for 2 days. I had this fully installed last week and had no problems. I just re-installed to start over with testing. Any ideas why updating is failing. I have tried up2date and yum. > > BC > > > yum --exclude=gstreamer update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package rhythmbox needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.6, this is not available. > Package rhythmbox needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. > Package gnome-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. > Package gstreamer-plugins needs /usr/bin/gst-register-0.7, this is not available. > Package gstreamer-plugins needs libgstcontrol-0.7.so.6, this is not available. > Package gstreamer-plugins needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. > Package sound-juicer needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. > Package nautilus-media needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. > Package gnome-applets needs libgstreamer-0.7.so.6, this is not available. > [root at Penguin1 etc]# > The latest that Works For Me(tm). yum -y --exclude=gstreamer --exclude=gstreamer-plugins \ --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=gnome-media \ --exclude=sound-juicer --exclude=gnome-applets \ update From wolters.liste at gmx.net Fri Mar 12 23:26:51 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:26:51 +0100 Subject: Konqueror shivers Message-ID: <200403130026.52061.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Hi, whenever I open the konqueror in the standard filemanagment-view (in the left field the directorys, in the right field the files), I am unable to change the width of the fields: the line which divides the window into two fields shivers between the old and the new postion, and it always jumpes back to the old position if I try to "drop" the line at the new position. I use KDE 3.2.1, the failure was there with KDE 3.2 too, my Fedora is the Fedora from the development tree. The used Theme is Platik, but it does not depend on different themes, effects or something like that, I changed everything I was able to, but nothing happened. Is there someone with the same Problem? Roland From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Fri Mar 12 23:39:56 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:39:56 -0500 Subject: yum problem failed deps In-Reply-To: <1079133793.3299.2.camel@family> References: <20040312201236.26850.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> <1079133793.3299.2.camel@family> Message-ID: <1079134796.3299.4.camel@family> On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 18:23 -0500, Sandy Pond wrote: > The latest that Works For Me(tm). > > yum -y --exclude=gstreamer --exclude=gstreamer-plugins \ > --exclude=rhythmbox --exclude=gnome-media \ > --exclude=sound-juicer --exclude=gnome-applets \ > update > or: rpm -e nautilus-media yum update :) From sct at redhat.com Sat Mar 13 00:31:44 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 13 Mar 2004 00:31:44 +0000 Subject: FC1 to FC2 upgrade and LVM In-Reply-To: <4051161C.5060004@rueb.com> References: <4051161C.5060004@rueb.com> Message-ID: <1079137904.14746.191.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 01:45, Steve Bergman wrote: > I've asked this on the fedora-list, but I'm thinking that it may really > be a question for this list. I'm replacing a SCO OSR5 server in our > office with FC1. I would like to use LVM for /, /var, /home, and swap. > If I do this, can I expect an upgrade to FC2-final to work? i.e. is > it a design goal of FC2 to seemlessly upgrade a FC1 LVM1 volume group > (on which the root fs resides) to LVM2? Yep --- it's working for me, and I _think_ I've now got most of the kinks out of root-on-lvm2 for test2. --Stephen From sct at redhat.com Sat Mar 13 00:34:09 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 13 Mar 2004 00:34:09 +0000 Subject: still LVM2 failure in linux-2.6.3-2.1.253 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079138049.14746.194.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 16:35, Neal D. Becker wrote: > I have lvm2/ext3 root. > > I get: > > no such device or address while trying to open /dev/Volume01/LogVol00 (this > is my lvm root). > (drops into root shell for repair) There are problems with the dynamic major/minor numbers that lvm2 uses. I've got those fixed internally, but the fixes interact badly with SELinux --- I've spent most of today trying to get those problems fixed so that the lvm2 initscripts changes can be pushed into rawhide. It should hopefully all work for test2. Cheers, Stephen From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sat Mar 13 13:06:33 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:06:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 Message-ID: I installed FC2 test1 and had a few problems. My system is an Athlox XP2100+ on an Asus A7V133 motherboard. The ethernet connection is an IBM e100. The soundcard is a Yamaha ymf754. My boot hard drive is in a removeable CD caddy because I fiddle with kernel development and other projects which have the potential to destroy file systems. Good backups and the ability to quickly swap systems keep me going. I have several comments. 1. The system was unable to configure/use my sound card. I get no sound. I am not sure what the problem is as I haven't really had a chance to look into it. 2. My system has Internet connectivity through a cable modem hooked into a Linksys router. When I attempt to contact the router by entering its ip address into Mozilla I get connection a connection refused message. 3. I am using the GUI tools to configure network settings, just as I do in FC1. If I configure a static ip address I get no Internet connectivity. ntpd fails at startup, and I get name resolution failures. I cannot get past my internal network. Reconfiguring things using dhcp results in a working connection. Before you ask, yes I do configure the right gateway and DNS parameters. The corresponding actions in FC1 work as expected. 4. Using up2date gives me unresolvable dependencies for libgstgconf and libgstreame for updates on nautilus-media. Removing nautilus, nautilus-cd-burner, and nautilus-media doesn't help get past this. I recall there was a discussion about this earlier, but I don't have that on hand. Attempting to access the mailing list archives gives me a URL unavailable error. Can anyone offer suggestions on the above? From mike at netlyncs.com Sat Mar 13 12:30:54 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 06:30:54 -0600 Subject: Gnome menu in latest rawhide updates Message-ID: <1079181053.1757.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> After doing an update to rawhide last night, it seems there are two help menus, and extra ones added to my gnome menus. It's like there is KDE ones mixed in, instead of combined. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From rpjday at mindspring.com Sat Mar 13 11:04:24 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 06:04:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: partitioning FC into smaller parts Message-ID: are there any plans to partition FC into smaller parts to keep a base distro from getting any bigger? i was a little nonplussed to notice that the current release doesn't fit on 3 CDs, since it overflows just a bit onto a 4th CD. i know this topic has come up before, but i don't know what became of the discussion. since the install procedure specifically asks whether the user has extra CDs late in the process, it seems this would be the perfect place to create that extra CD of non-essential stuff. as a suggestion, that extra CD could contain stuff like games and multimedia stuff, collectively grouped under, say, "recreation" or "entertainment". thoughts? obviously, you wouldn't want to do this kind of partitioning for every logical grouping of software, but it sure seems like you could identify a few hundred megabytes of what's considered non-essential, kind of frivolous stuff that fits in the category of "fun stuff". rday From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Mar 13 08:03:29 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:03:29 +0000 Subject: Ev 1.5.4 breaking gpg Message-ID: <1079165008.17235.14.camel@T7.linux> Hi, 10 emails from the same person. All 10 are digitially signed. 9 of them verify fine. The 10th has a PDF attached (though the attachment type doesn't matter) and the gpg signature is broken. Any ideas why? TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" Dr Who -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From steve_dum at mentorg.com Sat Mar 13 04:52:33 2004 From: steve_dum at mentorg.com (steve_dum at mentorg.com) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:52:33 -0800 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:56:38 GMT." Message-ID: <200403130452.i2D4qXVP013095@pinon.wv.mentorg.com> It seems to me that it's now legal to distribute DeCSS, and it's illegal (in the USA) to use the DeCSS package to play commercially generated DVD's. However, since it's legal to distribute and use DeCSS for your own use, it would be legal to distribute a program that allowed individuals to record their own personal DVD's using DeCSS encription (to assure maximal compatibility with DVD players) and of course it's legal to allow others to view your home generated DVD's with dvd playing software - even though it contains DeCSS decryption s/w. IANAL but it's much like the beta max court decision. Selling a vcr is legal even though you can use it to make illegal copies of movies, because there are significant other legal uses. So lets focus on a program to generate video on a cd or dvd - encrypted with DeCSS - that should be perfectly legal. We just aren't allowed use the tool to play commercial movies. steve > > >Hi, > >> > Can you redhat guys bug one of your lawyers and see if we can finally=20 >> > bundle a Dvd player with Linux. These court rulings seem to allow it=20 >> > now since it's deemed a non trade secret now. >>=20 >> I suggest you look at the current rulings on DVD copying tools > >=46rom memory (and I think we're talking about that company selling DVD >copying software here), the deCSS technology is not illegal nor is it a >trade secret anymore (post DVD Jon). However, software which utilises >deCSS for the purposes of copying (which as soon as you bundle something >with deCSS in you have access to) is illegal. > >It's almost as daft a situation as not being able to bundle an MP3 >plugin for xmms anymore due to some rotter who has decided to patent a >formula. > >Personally, I'd love xine to be bundled with FC2, but I think there is >more chance of the current president of the USA being found to have >anything other than bone between his ears! > >TTFN > >Paul > From jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 13 03:16:33 2004 From: jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com (James Bond) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 03:16:33 +0000 Subject: apt Message-ID: Hi, I cannot see apt package on fedora core 2 test1 cd's!! Do I have to download it from somewhere else? I think, it was there on Fedora core 1. Any ideas!! Cheers jerry _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sat Mar 13 13:19:22 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:19:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Thomas Molina wrote: > I installed FC2 test1 and had a few problems. My system is an Athlox > XP2100+ on an Asus A7V133 motherboard. The ethernet connection is an IBM > e100. The soundcard is a Yamaha ymf754. My boot hard drive is in a > removeable CD caddy because I fiddle with kernel development and other > projects which have the potential to destroy file systems. Good backups > and the ability to quickly swap systems keep me going. I have several > comments. I forgot one weird thing. My video card is an ATI Mach 64. My monitor is a Sony SDM-HS73 flat panel. When I go to or from the X session to a text console I have to re-synchronize the display. The picutre gets offset to one side by a few pixels. The monitor has a mode where it can sync the edge of the picture and I have to do this on each context switch. This is not required on FC1. Thanks. From alan at redhat.com Sat Mar 13 13:38:15 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:38:15 -0500 Subject: Gnome menu in latest rawhide updates In-Reply-To: <1079181053.1757.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1079181053.1757.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <20040313133815.GB5853@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 06:30:54AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > After doing an update to rawhide last night, it seems there are two help > menus, and extra ones added to my gnome menus. It's like there is KDE > ones mixed in, instead of combined. Already in bugzilla From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sat Mar 13 14:10:27 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:10:27 -0300 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40531653.2090603@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Thomas Molina wrote: >1. The system was unable to configure/use my sound card. I get no sound. >I am not sure what the problem is as I haven't really had a chance to look >into it. > > > Did you check if the right modules were detected and loaded? If they did is just alsa needing to be unmuted... If it didnt detect your sound card , probably it's a problem in kudzu or system-config-sound which needs to be bugzilled.. >2. My system has Internet connectivity through a cable modem hooked into >a Linksys router. When I attempt to contact the router by entering its ip >address into Mozilla I get connection a connection refused message. > > > Maybe because of ECN? I dont know for sure , but looks like linksys hardware has issues with ECN... >3. I am using the GUI tools to configure network settings, just as I do >in FC1. If I configure a static ip address I get no Internet >connectivity. ntpd fails at startup, and I get name resolution failures. >I cannot get past my internal network. Reconfiguring things using dhcp >results in a working connection. Before you ask, yes I do configure the >right gateway and DNS parameters. The corresponding actions in FC1 work >as expected. > > Maybe this will work if you find the resolution for #2. I have a linksys router here and my computer that runs FC2t1 has a static IP working perfectly. >4. Using up2date gives me unresolvable dependencies for libgstgconf and >libgstreame for updates on nautilus-media. Removing nautilus, >nautilus-cd-burner, and nautilus-media doesn't help get past this. I >recall there was a discussion about this earlier, but I don't have that on >hand. Attempting to access the mailing list archives gives me a URL >unavailable error. > > For the updates , I suggest yum... When this dependencies appear , I use a simple shell script I've made to update using yum.. It gets the list of all packages available , then does yum -y update package to all of them.. Those with broken deps fail and are left for the next update.. (Yes, I know this is not the best way , but I got tired of fighting with a update on up2date and yum some time ago...) For the mailing list archives , I get a page from redhat saying that it timed out to contact the server... You can use http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2 to search the fedora-list and fedora-devel-list. It doesnt have fedora-test-list yet... Or you can use gmane.org . They have the archives for the three lists.. -- Pedro Macedo From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 13 14:26:30 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:26:30 +0100 Subject: apt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40531A16.40109@gmx.de> James Bond wrote: > Hi, > I cannot see apt package on fedora core 2 test1 cd's!! Do I have to > download it from somewhere else? I think, it was there on Fedora core 1. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/ > Any ideas!! > > Cheers > jerry hi jerry alias james bond 422, do your homework! google, archives, ... what happened with your agent skills? -- shrek-m 007 From swamper at adelphia.net Sat Mar 13 15:13:54 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:13:54 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> Thomas Molina wrote: > 2. My system has Internet connectivity through a cable modem hooked into > a Linksys router. When I attempt to contact the router by entering its ip > address into Mozilla I get connection a connection refused message. I have the same problem with my linksys router and needed to boot into that "other" operating system to be able to change settings. Using kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 From bcs at metacon.ca Sat Mar 13 15:22:50 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:22:50 -0400 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 11:13, Swamper wrote: > Thomas Molina wrote: > > > 2. My system has Internet connectivity through a cable modem hooked into > > a Linksys router. When I attempt to contact the router by entering its ip > > address into Mozilla I get connection a connection refused message. > > I have the same problem with my linksys router and needed to boot > into that "other" operating system to be able to change settings. > > Using kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 It only started with FC2, though. I can talk to my router fine from FC1. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From fedora at networklifeline.net Sat Mar 13 15:30:07 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:30:07 -0700 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 Message-ID: <20040313153007.15842.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> Did you try echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn ? BC > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: My problems with FC2 test1 > From: "Ben Steeves" > Date: Sat, March 13, 2004 8:22 am > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > > On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 11:13, Swamper wrote: > > Thomas Molina wrote: > > > > > 2. My system has Internet connectivity through a cable modem > hooked into > > > a Linksys router. When I attempt to contact the router by entering > its ip > > > address into Mozilla I get connection a connection refused > message. > > > > I have the same problem with my linksys router and needed to boot > > into that "other" operating system to be able to change settings. > > > > Using kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 > > It only started with FC2, though. I can talk to my router fine from > FC1. > > -- > Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 > http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 13 15:30:43 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:30:43 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> Message-ID: <1079191843.8655.10.camel@binkley> On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 11:22 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 11:13, Swamper wrote: > > Thomas Molina wrote: > > > > > 2. My system has Internet connectivity through a cable modem hooked into > > > a Linksys router. When I attempt to contact the router by entering its ip > > > address into Mozilla I get connection a connection refused message. > > > > I have the same problem with my linksys router and needed to boot > > into that "other" operating system to be able to change settings. > > > > Using kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 > > It only started with FC2, though. I can talk to my router fine from > FC1. Look through the archives. you need to turn ECN off. -sv From bcs at metacon.ca Sat Mar 13 15:35:08 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:35:08 -0400 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040313153007.15842.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040313153007.15842.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1079192107.9738.30.camel@ripley> On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 11:30, BC wrote: > Did you try > > echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn ? Well, I have now :-) It works, thanks. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 13 15:36:29 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:36:29 +0100 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <1079191843.8655.10.camel@binkley> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> <1079191843.8655.10.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <40532A7D.9070006@gmx.de> seth vidal wrote: >Look through the archives. > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Error The requested URL could not be retrieved ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The following error was encountered: * * Connection Failed * The system returned: / (110) Connection timed out/ The remote host or network may be down. Please try the request again. Your cache administrator is webmaster at redhat.com . -- shrek-m From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 13 15:42:15 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:42:15 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <40532A7D.9070006@gmx.de> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> <1079191843.8655.10.camel@binkley> <40532A7D.9070006@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1079192534.8655.12.camel@binkley> > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > Error > > > The requested URL could not be retrieved > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The following error was encountered: > > * * Connection Failed * > > The system returned: > > / (110) Connection timed out/ > > The remote host or network may be down. Please try the request again. > > Your cache administrator is webmaster at redhat.com > . > Might be a better idea to report this to red hat rather than to this list. -sv From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 13 15:54:54 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:54:54 +0100 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <1079192534.8655.12.camel@binkley> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> <1079191843.8655.10.camel@binkley> <40532A7D.9070006@gmx.de> <1079192534.8655.12.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <40532ECE.1050909@gmx.de> seth vidal wrote: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> >> >> Error >> >> >> The requested URL could not be retrieved >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>[...] >>Your cache administrator is webmaster at redhat.com >>. >> >> >> > >Might be a better idea to report this to red hat rather than to this >list. > > done twice and thanks, webmaster at redhat.com https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116926 -- shrek-m From mitch at metauser.net Sat Mar 13 16:09:25 2004 From: mitch at metauser.net (Mitch Anderson) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 09:09:25 -0700 Subject: apt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079193835.2263.1.camel@kingpin> It can be found on http://fedora.us under the "How-To" link on the main page. Mitch On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 03:16 +0000, James Bond wrote: > Hi, > I cannot see apt package on fedora core 2 test1 cd's!! Do I have to download > it from somewhere else? I think, it was there on Fedora core 1. > Any ideas!! > > Cheers > jerry > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From rjohnson at medata.com Sat Mar 13 16:12:00 2004 From: rjohnson at medata.com (Rick Johnson) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:12:00 -0800 Subject: MySQL 4 Message-ID: <405332D0.6060006@medata.com> Now that the Free and Open Source Software license provision has been added to MySQL 4, is it possible that Red Hat may consider adding MySQL 4 back into the Fedora Core 2/RHEL trees? http://www.mysql.com/products/foss-exception.html Hopefully XFree86 will consider similar changes for v4.4. -Rick -- Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - rjohnson at medata.com Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc. (from home) PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc From sdinucci at cableone.net Sat Mar 13 16:18:14 2004 From: sdinucci at cableone.net (Scott) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 09:18:14 -0700 Subject: Volume Control Message-ID: <40533446.6030102@cableone.net> Forgive me if this is posted to the wrong list. The volume control on the bottom panel is having a little problem. When I try to move the slider bar from the bottom to a higher volume it always snaps back to the lowest position. The control is not muted. Thanks. Scott From swamper at adelphia.net Sat Mar 13 16:18:31 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:18:31 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <40532ECE.1050909@gmx.de> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> <1079191843.8655.10.camel@binkley> <40532A7D.9070006@gmx.de> <1079192534.8655.12.camel@binkley> <40532ECE.1050909@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20040313161831.GA24230@localhost.localdomain> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > > >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > >> Error > >> The requested URL could not be retrieved > > > >Might be a better idea to report this to red hat rather than to this > >list. > > done twice and thanks, There's something at http://www.redhat.com/ about those poor guys working on Saturday. Wonder if they're getting OT? Planned Outage Alert: Some functionality of the Red Hat web site will be unavailable from 01:00 to 17:00GMT on 13 March for scheduled maintenance. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 13 16:21:04 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:21:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <40532A7D.9070006@gmx.de> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> <1079191843.8655.10.camel@binkley> <40532A7D.9070006@gmx.de> Message-ID: <64942.65.41.50.216.1079194864.squirrel@65.41.50.216> shrek-m at gmx.de said: > seth vidal wrote: > >>Look through the archives. >> >> > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > Error http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/ -- William Hooper From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 13 16:34:48 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:34:48 +0100 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <64942.65.41.50.216.1079194864.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> <1079191843.8655.10.camel@binkley> <40532A7D.9070006@gmx.de> <64942.65.41.50.216.1079194864.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <40533828.5030209@gmx.de> William Hooper wrote: >shrek-m at gmx.de said: > > >>seth vidal wrote: >> >>>Look through the archives. >>> >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> >> Error >> >> >http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/ > good to know, thanks. -- shrek-m From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 13 16:39:38 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:39:38 +0100 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040313161831.GA24230@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <1079191370.9738.28.camel@ripley> <1079191843.8655.10.camel@binkley> <40532A7D.9070006@gmx.de> <1079192534.8655.12.camel@binkley> <40532ECE.1050909@gmx.de> <20040313161831.GA24230@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4053394A.8040001@gmx.de> Swamper wrote: >There's something at http://www.redhat.com/ about those poor >guys working on Saturday. Wonder if they're getting OT? > >Planned Outage Alert: > >Some functionality of the Red Hat web site will be unavailable >from 01:00 to 17:00GMT on 13 March for scheduled maintenance. > oops, really poor guys. sorry for the noise. -- shrek-m From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Mar 13 17:23:25 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:23:25 -0600 Subject: MySQL 4 In-Reply-To: <405332D0.6060006@medata.com> References: <405332D0.6060006@medata.com> Message-ID: <200403131123.25511.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 13 March 2004 10:12, Rick Johnson wrote: > Now that the Free and Open Source Software license provision has > been added to MySQL 4, is it possible that Red Hat may consider > adding MySQL 4 back into the Fedora Core 2/RHEL trees? > > http://www.mysql.com/products/foss-exception.html > > Hopefully XFree86 will consider similar changes for v4.4. > > -Rick > -- > Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - rjohnson at medata.com > Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc. (from home) > PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc You may find this of interest.... http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=107919493125504&w=2 Regards, Mike Klinke From wfrazee at wynweb.net Sat Mar 13 18:18:29 2004 From: wfrazee at wynweb.net (Wayne Frazee) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:18:29 -0600 Subject: Mainstream Usability Message-ID: <004101c40927$965cdfa0$1302a8c0@wfrazee> I'm quite sure that I am far from the first to suggest this but.. With the advent of KDE 3.2 and the latest gnome, the x-based user interface system has reached a level of usability that would be possible to use by the average user while still maintaining access to the powerful Linux command line. Further, improvements in the 2.6 kernel make the Linux operating system more robust than ever, offering wide-ranging support for hardware, platforms, and user-needs. Still, Linux has not really gone mainstream. The features are there, but the operating system is still intimidating. Besides the traditional challenge posed by change, in and of itself, you start your computer and are assailed by a hundred lines of gibberish (at least to the average end user) from the kernel loading. Fedora has certainly taken a stride in the right direction, offering a GUI screen with a progress bar for those who would like it. Still, kernel loading is accomplished by lines upon lines of intimidating text. Further, not enough time has been put into building good looking themes and so forth to be included with KDE, leaving first time users with an impression that the GUI is bland, etc. So what can be done about it? Is it really worth addressing these points? While for the average developer here, we just don't care. I use my fedora boxes more than I do my windows machines. At this point, I have worked with Solaris, RHEL, FC1, FC2T1, and I don't even notice anymore the lack of polish. Each time I start a workstation-configured machine for a client demonstration on console, I am harshly brought back to the realization that users aren't used to this level of output. They practically recoil when they see the kernel load and it gives them a bad impression right off the bat. An impression that the operating system would be overly complicated to use, that employees would have trouble training for it. Once a first impression is made, its rather difficult to break as for most clients it tends to color their analysis of the rest of the system. Please keep in mind that although I do programming, I have virtually no experience working with the Linux kernel besides loading modules and so forth. How hard would it be to add perhaps a parameter to grub as to whether or not to suppress that initial text pre-gui? Perhaps offering two modes, one spitting out everything that it does now, the other perhaps offering more simplified (5 or 8 lines instead of 100): "Loading Fedora Core 1." ".Init Run Level 1" ".Starting [big subsystem]" ".Starting [big subsystem]" ".Init Run Level 5 Is this something that OSDL would have to look at? Certainly the OS-related art content is not beyond the scope of the Fedora Project. --===============-- Wayne S. Frazee "If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lamont at gurulabs.com Sat Mar 13 20:36:18 2004 From: lamont at gurulabs.com (Lamont R. Peterson) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:36:18 -0700 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079210178.2884.6.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 06:19, Thomas Molina wrote: > I forgot one weird thing. My video card is an ATI Mach 64. My monitor is > a Sony SDM-HS73 flat panel. When I go to or from the X session to a text > console I have to re-synchronize the display. The picutre gets offset to > one side by a few pixels. The monitor has a mode where it can sync the > edge of the picture and I have to do this on each context switch. This is > not required on FC1. I have a couple of friends who experience the same with their Sony LCD panel monitors (I do not know what models, but at least three different ones). This also happens under SUSE 8.0-8.2 (do not know about 9.0, but would expect it), Gentoo and even (gasp) Windows Whatever. Apparently, the Sony panels are not willing to re-sync automatically. I wonder if your text mode on FC1 happens to be (or to be close enough to) the same as the X mode, from the panel's perspective? Probably not, but it's an idea. Good luck. -- Lamont Peterson Senior Instructor Guru Labs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Sat Mar 13 21:24:04 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:24:04 -0600 Subject: Why the Monitor Database Deletions? Message-ID: <40537BF4.2020405@austin.rr.com> I noticed that in both Fedora Core 2 and Core 1 x86_64 there are monitors missing in the listing. Example: in FC1 i386 there is a NEC Multisync FP912SB whereas this entry is absent in the other two cores. I only noticed this as this is my specific monitor. Was this upstream or what? -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 1 Test 1 *x86_64* From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Sat Mar 13 21:32:28 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:32:28 -0600 Subject: Mainstream Usability In-Reply-To: <004101c40927$965cdfa0$1302a8c0@wfrazee> References: <004101c40927$965cdfa0$1302a8c0@wfrazee> Message-ID: <40537DEC.2020500@austin.rr.com> I have seen the suggestion of using http://www.bootsplash.org/ a nice pretty booter that I believe Suse uses and that I would like to see fedora adopt. I agree that it is somewhat repulsive to the computer illiterate to see all of that text go across the screen. Being brought up with Windows they are apt to think that something is going wrong since the text is moving so fast. (that's what my parents would think at least) > Each time I start a workstation-configured machine for a client > demonstration on console, I am harshly brought back to the realization > that users aren?t used to this level of output. They practically > recoil when they see the kernel load and it gives them a bad > impression right off the bat. An impression that the operating system > would be overly complicated to use, that employees would have trouble > training for it. Once a first impression is made, its rather difficult > to break as for most clients it tends to color their analysis of the > rest of the system. > -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 1 Test 1 *x86_64* From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Sat Mar 13 21:33:13 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:33:13 -0600 Subject: Mainstream Usability Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2B6@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> I am 99% sure that last time I tried Lindows that it does not spew out all the kernel booting messages. And it seems like some other distro's (perhaps Lycoris, SuSE?) don't do it either. Perhaps you could look at them and see how they do it? Didn't RedHat dumb down KDE for their distribution? It is certainly seems to be different than it is on other distros/os'es. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Wayne Frazee Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 11:18 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Mainstream Usability I'm quite sure that I am far from the first to suggest this but.... With the advent of KDE 3.2 and the latest gnome, the x-based user interface system has reached a level of usability that would be possible to use by the average user while still maintaining access to the powerful Linux command line. Further, improvements in the 2.6 kernel make the Linux operating system more robust than ever, offering wide-ranging support for hardware, platforms, and user-needs. Still, Linux has not really gone mainstream. The features are there, but the operating system is still intimidating. Besides the traditional challenge posed by change, in and of itself, you start your computer and are assailed by a hundred lines of gibberish (at least to the average end user) from the kernel loading. Fedora has certainly taken a stride in the right direction, offering a GUI screen with a progress bar for those who would like it. Still, kernel loading is accomplished by lines upon lines of intimidating text. Further, not enough time has been put into building good looking themes and so forth to be included with KDE, leaving first time users with an impression that the GUI is bland, etc. So what can be done about it? Is it really worth addressing these points? While for the average developer here, we just don't care. I use my fedora boxes more than I do my windows machines. At this point, I have worked with Solaris, RHEL, FC1, FC2T1, and I don't even notice anymore the lack of polish. Each time I start a workstation-configured machine for a client demonstration on console, I am harshly brought back to the realization that users aren't used to this level of output. They practically recoil when they see the kernel load and it gives them a bad impression right off the bat. An impression that the operating system would be overly complicated to use, that employees would have trouble training for it. Once a first impression is made, its rather difficult to break as for most clients it tends to color their analysis of the rest of the system. Please keep in mind that although I do programming, I have virtually no experience working with the Linux kernel besides loading modules and so forth. How hard would it be to add perhaps a parameter to grub as to whether or not to suppress that initial text pre-gui? Perhaps offering two modes, one spitting out everything that it does now, the other perhaps offering more simplified (5 or 8 lines instead of 100): "Loading Fedora Core 1..." "...Init Run Level 1" "...Starting [big subsystem]" "...Starting [big subsystem]" "...Init Run Level 5 Is this something that OSDL would have to look at? Certainly the OS-related art content is not beyond the scope of the Fedora Project. --===============-- Wayne S. Frazee "If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joao at wipmail.com.br Sat Mar 13 21:35:41 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:35:41 -0300 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 screen/px/sync In-Reply-To: <1079210178.2884.6.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> References: <1079210178.2884.6.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> Message-ID: <200403131835.57062.joao@wipmail.com.br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi could you please check xdpyinfo regarding you sreen dimensions in x y mm? And if what appears is really your screen dimension? If not measure it in mm and you can put it in XF86Config into the monitor section as DisplaySize 286 216 (put your mm here) There are several issues about and I got curious if your's has to do with it also. jo?o On Saturday 13 March 2004 17:36, Lamont R. Peterson wrote: > On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 06:19, Thomas Molina wrote: > > I forgot one weird thing. My video card is an ATI Mach 64. My monitor > > is a Sony SDM-HS73 flat panel. When I go to or from the X session to a > > text console I have to re-synchronize the display. The picutre gets > > offset to one side by a few pixels. The monitor has a mode where it can > > sync the edge of the picture and I have to do this on each context > > switch. This is not required on FC1. > > I have a couple of friends who experience the same with their Sony LCD > panel monitors (I do not know what models, but at least three different > ones). This also happens under SUSE 8.0-8.2 (do not know about 9.0, but > would expect it), Gentoo and even (gasp) Windows Whatever. Apparently, > the Sony panels are not willing to re-sync automatically. > > I wonder if your text mode on FC1 happens to be (or to be close enough > to) the same as the X mode, from the panel's perspective? Probably not, > but it's an idea. > > Good luck. - -- Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc ?{ DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F ?6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAU362CmIEQLX9sjoRAv/2AKCDWONj/KVQkHTRSS2gSWgbJmqehQCfchke 9oIpWUEP5ZB6610HwquQkgs= =ODF3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rhally at mindspring.com Sat Mar 13 21:45:10 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:45:10 -0500 Subject: syslog not starting during boot Message-ID: Running all the latest from /development, when I boot the system does not start syslog! I have to start it up manually by doing /etc/init.d/syslog start. Where should I check to see why this is happening? I have looked in dmesg and messages after starting syslog but cannot find an indication as to why the start doesn't happen during the boot/init. 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The kernel docs don't seem to be very helpful on this subject saying only (as far as I can find): devices.txt: 128 = /dev/beep Fancy beep device -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From gavin.henry at magicfx.co.uk Sat Mar 13 22:44:08 2004 From: gavin.henry at magicfx.co.uk (Gavin Henry) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:44:08 +0000 Subject: apt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 13 Mar 2004 03:16, James Bond wrote: > Hi, > I cannot see apt package on fedora core 2 test1 cd's!! Do I have to > download it from somewhere else? I think, it was there on Fedora core 1. > Any ideas!! CHeck ou tmy howto on http://fedoranews.org/ghenry/ > > Cheers > jerry > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger - -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. http://www.magicfx.co.uk http://FedoraNEWS.ORG/ghenry http://www.suretecsystems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAU467gNqd7Kng8UoRAthtAJ4or6cXzFKvBSr3v1x/OU3DjXWtrACaAuz0 f/503c2AuM0pg3rzy73P8R4= =cG3c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alan at redhat.com Sat Mar 13 23:47:17 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:47:17 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <1079210178.2884.6.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> References: <1079210178.2884.6.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> Message-ID: <20040313234717.GA11417@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 01:36:18PM -0700, Lamont R. Peterson wrote: > ones). This also happens under SUSE 8.0-8.2 (do not know about 9.0, but > would expect it), Gentoo and even (gasp) Windows Whatever. Apparently, > the Sony panels are not willing to re-sync automatically. There is a problem with Fedora and some panels when switching to X because they set the display to black not a colour or pattern. If you rebuild X with the greyshade->black patch removed then you get perfect resync with the kiss LCD panels for example while without it fails to sync every time. Alan From alan at redhat.com Sat Mar 13 23:48:04 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:48:04 -0500 Subject: Mainstream Usability In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2B6@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2B6@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: <20040313234804.GB11417@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 03:33:13PM -0600, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > I am 99% sure that last time I tried Lindows that it does not spew out all > the kernel booting messages. And it seems like some other distro's (perhaps > Lycoris, SuSE?) don't do it either. Perhaps you could look at them and see > how they do it? There is a boot option "quiet". I imagine they are setting this. Alan From wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu Sun Mar 14 00:02:20 2004 From: wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (Wes Shull) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:02:20 -0700 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings In-Reply-To: <20040313160938.F1F7573232@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040313160938.F1F7573232@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403131702.22018.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> steve_dum at mentorg.com wrote: > it would be legal to distribute a program that allowed individuals > to record their own personal DVD's using DeCSS encription (to assure > maximal compatibility with DVD players) I'm not even going to speculate on the legality issue, but where did you get the idea that using CSS makes a disc more compatible? CSS is a purely optional part of DVD encoding; a not inconsiderable number of commercial DVDs are released without CSS scrambling, probably because it's cheaper--no paying CSS fees through your mastering/replication facility. It'll be interesting to see if these fees go away now... --wes (sorry for the OT digression) From wfrazee at wynweb.net Sun Mar 14 02:03:14 2004 From: wfrazee at wynweb.net (Wayne Frazee) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 20:03:14 -0600 Subject: Mainstream Usability In-Reply-To: <20040313234804.GB11417@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <001b01c40968$830072f0$1302a8c0@wfrazee> How would one go about setting up the boot option for quiet? Just edit the grub bootloader entry for the kernel in question? And what is keeping this from being set by default in workstation configurations? --===============-- Wayne S. Frazee "If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in." -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:48 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Mainstream Usability On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 03:33:13PM -0600, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > I am 99% sure that last time I tried Lindows that it does not spew out all > the kernel booting messages. And it seems like some other distro's (perhaps > Lycoris, SuSE?) don't do it either. Perhaps you could look at them and see > how they do it? There is a boot option "quiet". I imagine they are setting this. Alan -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From jon at codenitro.com Sun Mar 14 02:16:28 2004 From: jon at codenitro.com (Jon) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:16:28 -0500 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) Message-ID: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> Hi. I'm not sure exactly how this happened, but I was installing updates with up2date (I think it included librpmio or something...) and it unexpectedly quit. When I tried starting up2date again, it doesn't come up like it usually does. I tried up2date from the terminal and get this output: [jon at localhost jon]$ up2date Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 12, in ? import rpm ImportError: /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so: symbol regexec, version GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference I tried updating from yum, and it comes out with the same output somewhat: [jon at localhost jon]$ yum Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? import yummain File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 22, in ? import clientStuff File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 18, in ? import rpm ImportError: /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so: symbol regexec, version GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference It seems to involve the same thing with rpmio, and I've tried searching for a replacement version but can't even seem to find the RPM anywhere, on the CDs or over the net. The command rpm works and most everything else on the system seems to work, but it'd be really nice to get updates working again. Is there a solution or some place where I can find a replacement package? Thanks for the help. -Jon MacG. jon.plainculture.com From techs_21 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 14 03:12:28 2004 From: techs_21 at yahoo.com (Eric Ebert) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 19:12:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: man command giving error Message-ID: <20040314031228.87393.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com> When I do man logout or man login at the shell I get the following when I press q to quit: /usr/bin/nroff: line 69: 3862 Done /usr/bin/iconv -f ${charset_in} -t utf-8 ${TMPFILE} 3863 | /usr/bin/groff -mtty-char -Tutf8 $opts 2>/dev/null 3866 Broken pipe | /usr/bin/iconv -f utf-8 -t ${charset_out}//translit What component would I file this under in bugzilla? Is anybody else seeing this problem? Eric __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun Mar 14 03:21:54 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:21:54 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> Swamper wrote: > Thomas Molina wrote: > > >>2. My system has Internet connectivity through a cable modem hooked into >>a Linksys router. When I attempt to contact the router by entering its ip >>address into Mozilla I get connection a connection refused message. > > > I have the same problem with my linksys router and needed to boot > into that "other" operating system to be able to change settings. > > Using kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 > > I had to boot into that "other" (2.4) kernel version. I reset the router and tried other things to the router before I figured out the issue is with the 2.6 kernel. First broken 3com card, then "busted router" issues. Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) Jim From swamper at adelphia.net Sun Mar 14 04:09:15 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 23:09:15 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> Jim Cornette wrote: > Swamper wrote: > >Thomas Molina wrote: > >>2. My system has Internet connectivity through a cable modem hooked into > >I have the same problem with my linksys router and needed to boot > > I had to boot into that "other" (2.4) kernel version. I reset the router > and tried other things to the router before I figured out the issue is > with the 2.6 kernel. > > First broken 3com card, then "busted router" issues. > > Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct > the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) I don't get this; if it worked with 2.4 and is broke with 2.6 then WTF does this have to do with linksys? Sounds like it has something to do with the Fedora updates included with this new kernel version. Am I correct in assuming that the kernel itself is not being developed in the project? From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sun Mar 14 05:15:28 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:15:28 -0800 Subject: man command giving error In-Reply-To: <20040314031228.87393.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040314031228.87393.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1079241328.2552.13.camel@CirithUngol> On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 19:12 -0800, Eric Ebert wrote: > When I do man logout or man login at the shell I get the following when I press q to > quit: > > /usr/bin/nroff: line 69: 3862 Done /usr/bin/iconv -f ${charset_in} -t > utf-8 ${TMPFILE} > 3863 | /usr/bin/groff -mtty-char -Tutf8 $opts 2>/dev/null > 3866 Broken pipe | /usr/bin/iconv -f utf-8 -t ${charset_out}//translit > What component would I file this under in bugzilla? Is anybody else seeing this problem? > > Eric > Seeing the same in rawhide updated system. It would be bugzilla'd against either groff or glibc-common I imagine. This problem appears to be similar to this bug which is supposed to be fixing the problem in glibc-common-2.3.3-14. It is not fixed in my current (2.3.3-14) if the error is caused by the same problem in a slightly different context. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117021 -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun Mar 14 05:17:30 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 00:17:30 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4053EAEA.9030105@insight.rr.com> Swamper wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Swamper wrote: >> >>>Thomas Molina wrote: >>> >>>>2. My system has Internet connectivity through a cable modem hooked into >>> >>>I have the same problem with my linksys router and needed to boot >> >>I had to boot into that "other" (2.4) kernel version. I reset the router >>and tried other things to the router before I figured out the issue is >>with the 2.6 kernel. >> >>First broken 3com card, then "busted router" issues. >> >>Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct >>the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) > > > I don't get this; if it worked with 2.4 and is broke with 2.6 > then WTF does this have to do with linksys? Sounds like it has > something to do with the Fedora updates included with this new > kernel version. Am I correct in assuming that the kernel itself > is not being developed in the project? > > I guess with ECN being set to off, it didn't matter that ECN was broken. This is from what I read from other earlier email to this list or development. I went ahead and checked out the website for my router and flashed the december 2003 upgrade into it. I'll try to connect to the router from FC2 T1 using the 2.6 kernel and before running the command that was given earlier today to the list. echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn This sounds easier than having to boot into windows or into a 2.4 kernel. Related to linksys. I saw some information related to GPL sources available and a penguin on their site. Has anyone used this gpl code and is it for the larger scale routers? Any luck with the source codes? http://www.linksys.com/support/gpl.asp Jim From rjohnson at medata.com Sun Mar 14 05:54:15 2004 From: rjohnson at medata.com (Rick Johnson) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:54:15 -0800 Subject: Wireless Card Setup - Small problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4053F387.2080801@medata.com> Pratik Mehta wrote: > Hi, > > I have been trying to setup my wireless card on Dell Insipiron 5150 A30 bios revision. It is a Cisco 350 PCMCIA Card. The pcmcia is working the green light starts up. > Then i do: > iwconfig eth2 essid=xyz key=xxxxxx > dhclient eth2 > > but it does not seem to work....it shows me that it is configured but does not work..... > The warning that i get is: Warning device driver compiled with wireless extension version 16 and the system is using version 15. > > Has anybody been successfully able to get this working...This is the last part of the problem in my system.....Thanks. I get this when using the latest MadWifi based driver and a D-Link (G) card, as well as with an Orinoco driver and a Compaq wireless (B) card. It seems that the headers are of a different version than wireless-tools. I keep hoping that the next wireless-tools version I download will fix. -Rick -- Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - rjohnson at medata.com Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc. (from home) PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 14 07:02:21 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 23:02:21 -0800 Subject: xemacs Oops Message-ID: <20040314070221.GD13908@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Is xemacs ok for you? It is is not here..... FC1.9 With SELinux installed and enforcing. *Linux --- 2.6.3-2.1.253 #1 Tue Mar 9 13:35:40 EST 2004 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux $ rpm -q -a | grep xemacs xemacs-21.4.15-2.1 apel-xemacs-10.6-2 xemacs-sumo-20040202-2 $ rpm -q -a | grep policy checkpolicy-1.6-1 policycoreutils-1.6-8 Mar 13 22:46:50 xtl2 root: XXXxEmacs--------------- Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffd02c Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: printing eip: Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: 0219778f Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: *pde = 00002067 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: Oops: 0000 [#1] Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: CPU: 0 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: EIP: 0060:[<0219778f>] Not tainted Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: EFLAGS: 00010202 (2.6.3-2.1.253) Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: EIP is at elf_core_dump+0x223/0xa45 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: eax: 0a83e6c0 ebx: 00000000 ecx: 00000004 edx: 112f4000 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: esi: 022de241 edi: 0c46c494 ebp: 201148e4 esp: 112f4da8 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: Process xemacs (pid: 7376, threadinfo=112f4000 task=0a83e6c0) Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: Stack: 1121aab4 00000000 112f4e20 0218df8d 112f4000 21a7249c 112188ac 11218938 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: 112229c4 0c46c494 00000000 21a7249c 112188ac 112229c4 201148e4 11218938 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 112f4e20 1121ab78 02187ef9 00000000 07aa427c Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: Call Trace: Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<0218df8d>] __mark_inode_dirty+0x21/0x1a5 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<02187ef9>] notify_change+0x1d1/0x1dc Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<02165a44>] do_truncate+0x4f/0x6b Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<02175d66>] do_coredump+0x22a/0x2ee Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<0213074e>] __dequeue_signal+0xec/0x152 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<021307a8>] __dequeue_signal+0x146/0x152 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<021307e1>] dequeue_signal+0x2d/0x54 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<02133530>] get_signal_to_deliver+0x772/0x860 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<0210dd40>] do_signal+0x4e/0xbb Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<02121307>] recalc_task_prio+0x141/0x14c Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<02122487>] schedule+0x4e2/0x6cc Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: [<0210ddd4>] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x37 Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: Code: 0f b7 15 2c d0 ff ff 8b 40 68 89 54 24 50 8b 50 24 01 54 24 Of interest 'emacs' does run. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sun Mar 14 07:03:42 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 23:03:42 -0800 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) In-Reply-To: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> References: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> Message-ID: <1079247821.2552.23.camel@CirithUngol> On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 21:16 -0500, Jon wrote: > [jon at localhost jon]$ up2date > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 12, in ? > import rpm > ImportError: /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so: symbol regexec, version > GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference > > I tried updating from yum, and it comes out with the same output somewhat: > > [jon at localhost jon]$ yum > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? > import yummain > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 22, in ? > import clientStuff > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 18, in ? > import rpm > ImportError: /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so: symbol regexec, version > GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference What versions of these do you have currently? rpm -q up2date yum rpm rpm-devel librpmio-4.3.so is part of the rpm-devel package so if you're going to bugzilla this issue it should probably be against rpm since it is independent of up2date/yum. I don't see it there yet, but make sure to do a search yourself in case I missed it. Before you do that make sure you have the latest versions of the above packages tho. -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From djh at iinet.net.au Sun Mar 14 07:42:31 2004 From: djh at iinet.net.au (djh) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:42:31 +1000 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) In-Reply-To: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> References: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> Message-ID: <40540CE7.6010806@iinet.net.au> Jon wrote: > ... > I tried updating from yum, and it comes out with the same output > somewhat: > > [jon at localhost jon]$ yum > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? > import yummain > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 22, in ? > import clientStuff > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 18, in ? > import rpm > ImportError: /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so: symbol regexec, version > GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference Manually upgrading glibc should fix that. David. From djh at iinet.net.au Sun Mar 14 07:51:36 2004 From: djh at iinet.net.au (djh) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:51:36 +1000 Subject: Gnome menu in latest rawhide updates In-Reply-To: <1079181053.1757.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1079181053.1757.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <40540F08.5030808@iinet.net.au> Mike Chambers wrote: >After doing an update to rawhide last night, it seems there are two help >menus, and extra ones added to my gnome menus. It's like there is KDE >ones mixed in, instead of combined. > > All of the category menus disappeared after I updated. David. From barryn at pobox.com Sun Mar 14 08:15:36 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 00:15:36 -0800 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) In-Reply-To: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> References: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> Message-ID: <20040314081535.GA3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 09:16:28PM -0500, Jon wrote: > GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference Use rpm to manually freshen or upgrade to the latest glibc packages in rawhide (2.3.3-16, I think). Then up2date and yum will work again. -Barry K. Nathan From rjohnson at medata.com Sun Mar 14 08:18:20 2004 From: rjohnson at medata.com (Rick Johnson) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 00:18:20 -0800 Subject: Madwifi (and other wireless) Success - version mismatch fix Message-ID: <4054154C.6000802@medata.com> For those who have had little success in getting wireless cards to work due to a wireless extension mismatch, I've found a solution. It seems that glibc-kernheaders-2.4-8.1.43.src.rpm provides 2.4 kernel headers within /usr/include/linux. Included with this package is version 15 of the wireless headers - wireless.h. It seems these headers are also included with the kernel package itself within /lib/modules//build/include/linux. I boldly removed /usr/include/linux, replacing it with the linux directory found in the path listed above, then rebuilt the wireless-tools package from the SRPM, and installed. I was then able to get my wireless interface to come up with WEP without an error message about the version mismatch. It seems that the solution is two-fold. 1. The wireless-tools package needs to be built against the same wireless.h that wireless kernel drivers are built against. 2. The glibc-kernheaders package needs to be updated to include headers from the 2.6 kernel. On a different note - it appears that the latest CVS of Madwifi successfully compiles against kernel-2.6.3-2.253, which means that FC2-Test1 is now "useful" to me again. Now if only the pcmcia init-script worked correctly so that I could start the laptop up w/o the card ejected. Enjoy, -Rick -- Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - rjohnson at medata.com Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc. (from home) PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc From rjohnson at medata.com Sun Mar 14 08:20:17 2004 From: rjohnson at medata.com (Rick Johnson) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 00:20:17 -0800 Subject: Madwifi (and other wireless) Success - version mismatch fix In-Reply-To: <4054154C.6000802@medata.com> References: <4054154C.6000802@medata.com> Message-ID: <405415C1.2040200@medata.com> I incoherently wrote: > It seems that glibc-kernheaders-2.4-8.1.43.src.rpm provides 2.4 kernel > headers within /usr/include/linux. Included with this package is version > 15 of the wireless headers - wireless.h. > > It seems these headers are also included with the kernel package itself > within /lib/modules//build/include/linux. I boldly > removed /usr/include/linux, replacing it with the linux directory found > in the path listed above, then rebuilt the wireless-tools package from > the SRPM, and installed. I was then able to get my wireless interface to > come up with WEP without an error message about the version mismatch. The version included with the 2.6 kernel is version 16, which is what drivers are compiled against. Sorry for the lack of clarity. It's late :-) -Rick -- Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - rjohnson at medata.com Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc. (from home) PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc From ere at webedge.dk Sun Mar 14 11:18:50 2004 From: ere at webedge.dk (Erik Reuter) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 12:18:50 +0100 Subject: ATI Drivers fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 Message-ID: <40543F9A.6070402@webedge.dk> We're having problems with the FC2 test 1 release and the 2.6.3-2.1.253 kernel using the proprietary ATI fglrx 3.7.6 drivers. It gives us an "incompatible device" error message, as you can see in this rage3d thread: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33747284 It works with a vanilla 2.6.3 kernel, but not with the one available in FC2 test 1. From neuro at seclab.jp Sun Mar 14 11:29:38 2004 From: neuro at seclab.jp (Frederic de Villamil) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 12:29:38 +0100 Subject: kmail in the wrong package. Message-ID: <20040314112938.GA17159@jesus.seclab.jp> Hi, trying to install kmail, I have the following: Package kmail is a virtual package provided by: kdenetwork 7:3.2.1-1 You should explicitly select one to install. E: Package kmail has no installation candidate Actually, kmail is not in the kdenetwork package, but in the kdepim package. Should be nice to correct that in the package list or to put kmail binary in the kdenetwork package. Have a nice day. Frederic -- < Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president et pere de famille respectable :s http://www.seclab.jp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dennis at ausil.us Sun Mar 14 11:58:20 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:58:20 +1000 Subject: kmail in the wrong package. In-Reply-To: <20040314112938.GA17159@jesus.seclab.jp> References: <20040314112938.GA17159@jesus.seclab.jp> Message-ID: <200403142158.30561.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Sunday 14 March 2004 9:29 pm, Frederic de Villamil wrote: > Hi, > trying to install kmail, I have the following: > > Package kmail is a virtual package provided by: > kdenetwork 7:3.2.1-1 > You should explicitly select one to install. > E: Package kmail has no installation candidate > > Actually, kmail is not in the kdenetwork package, but in the kdepim > package. Should be nice to correct that in the package list or to put > kmail binary in the kdenetwork package. > > Have a nice day. > Frederic > -- > < Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president > et pere de famille respectable :s > http://www.seclab.jp kmail as move from kdenetwork to kdepim ?beteen 3.1 and 3.2 ?i guess it hasn ben picked up yet i would sugest that you file a bug on this one Dennis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun Mar 14 12:49:36 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 13:49:36 +0100 Subject: KDE menu-structure, configs and icons lost Message-ID: <200403141349.36820.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Hi, I updated my development system through apt-get thiso day, and lost several configs of my KDE: the menu-structure was lost, several icons disappeared there, some icons in the panels were lost (the "konsole" and the "kontact" i added) and some configs were lost, like html open with Konqueror. I tried to repair my menu, but it doesnt matter what I add to the menu-edit programm, nothing works, it does not show the changes! The update was about 100 Packages, no new kernel, but new kde-libs, I think. The rest, like KDE 3.2.1, was already installed. Do you have the same problems? Maybe it depends on the new kde-libs, or on the new redhat-menu? Roland From fedora at networklifeline.net Sun Mar 14 12:59:24 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 05:59:24 -0700 Subject: lock ups on when moving data Message-ID: <20040314125924.13501.qmail@webmail-2-3.mesa1.secureserver.net> I am running FC2. I have Samba configured to share out a 30gb RAID 1 partition. 30gb on the main drive and a separate 30gb drive make up the RAID1 (md0) when I move files from the windows machine (like an entire directory 12gb) the entire FC machine locks up after 5 minutes with no error messages. Then I have to hard reboot the machine. any ideas -- is it the RAID or samba or a problem with I/O ? BC From pmatilai at welho.com Sun Mar 14 13:31:32 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:31:32 +0200 (EET) Subject: apt In-Reply-To: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> References: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Gavin Henry wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 13 Mar 2004 03:16, James Bond wrote: > > Hi, > > I cannot see apt package on fedora core 2 test1 cd's!! Do I have to > > download it from somewhere else? I think, it was there on Fedora core 1. > > Any ideas!! > > CHeck ou tmy howto on http://fedoranews.org/ghenry/ BTW there's absolutely no need to manually upgrade rpm and apt first, they'll get upgraded in dist-upgrade along with everything else. In fact that might even cause extra problems since the binaries were built for FC2, not FC1. - Panu - From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 14 13:43:04 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:43:04 -0500 Subject: Mainstream Usability In-Reply-To: <001b01c40968$830072f0$1302a8c0@wfrazee> References: <20040313234804.GB11417@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <001b01c40968$830072f0$1302a8c0@wfrazee> Message-ID: <20040314134304.GA8879@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 08:03:14PM -0600, Wayne Frazee wrote: > How would one go about setting up the boot option for quiet? Just edit > the grub bootloader entry for the kernel in question? And what is Yes > keeping this from being set by default in workstation configurations? Good question. Providing there is a "verbose" or "debug" in Grub for users to pick I don't see the problem in doing that. Quiet btw isnt entirely silent just a lot quieter. So you will get just a few kernel messages, then we hit user space and RHGB takes over providing a few messages in the graphical boot up, then you get a flicker and gdm From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 14 13:45:55 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:45:55 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040314134555.GB8879@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:09:15PM -0500, Swamper wrote: > > Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct > > the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) > > I don't get this; if it worked with 2.4 and is broke with 2.6 > then WTF does this have to do with linksys? Sounds like it has Linksys routers appear to mishandle ECN (which is part of the TCP standard and used by default in 2.6). Alan From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sun Mar 14 14:06:40 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:06:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <4053EAEA.9030105@insight.rr.com> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> <4053EAEA.9030105@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>I had to boot into that "other" (2.4) kernel version. I reset the router > >>and tried other things to the router before I figured out the issue is > >>with the 2.6 kernel. > >> > >>First broken 3com card, then "busted router" issues. > >> > >>Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct > >>the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) I don't know if anything has been submitted, but I checked to ensure I had the latest version. I do. The update was from June of 2003 and the release notes do not mention ECN at all. > > I don't get this; if it worked with 2.4 and is broke with 2.6 > > then WTF does this have to do with linksys? Sounds like it has > > something to do with the Fedora updates included with this new > > kernel version. Am I correct in assuming that the kernel itself > > is not being developed in the project? It is even more interesting than that. Fedora's 2.6 handles the issues different than the Linus 2.6. One of the experiments I did last night tried to compare the two. I keep up with development kernels, so I have a bitkeeper 2.6 repository available. For both the Fedora kernel and the bitkeeper kernel I used the GUI tool to delete the existing network setup and then recreated it. Using the Fedora kernel I got no Internet connectivity, even after turning off ECN. If I used the bitkeeper kernel I got full connectivity. If I created the network/eth0 setup using the bitkeeper kernel I even got good connectivity using the Fedora kernel. I don't believe the Linksys was an issue in this test because I was using static IP addresses. If someone wants me to take the Linksys completely out of the loop I can; I just need to arrange a time to take the rest of the family off-line. > I guess with ECN being set to off, it didn't matter that ECN was broken. > This is from what I read from other earlier email to this list or > development. > > I went ahead and checked out the website for my router and flashed the > december 2003 upgrade into it. > I'll try to connect to the router from FC2 T1 using the 2.6 kernel and > before running the command that was given earlier today to the list. > echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn > This sounds easier than having to boot into windows or into a 2.4 kernel. > > Related to linksys. I saw some information related to GPL sources > available and a penguin on their site. Has anyone used this gpl code and > is it for the larger scale routers? Any luck with the source codes? I looked at the page. There isn't any code listed there for my Linksys, so I haven't examined the code at all. My router is a BEFSR41v2. From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sun Mar 14 14:12:29 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:12:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040314134555.GB8879@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> <20040314134555.GB8879@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:09:15PM -0500, Swamper wrote: > > > Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct > > > the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) > > > > I don't get this; if it worked with 2.4 and is broke with 2.6 > > then WTF does this have to do with linksys? Sounds like it has > > Linksys routers appear to mishandle ECN (which is part of the TCP standard > and used by default in 2.6). The model I have also doesn't seem to handle dhcp lease renewals either. I had already decided to switch to an SMC, so this is just one further confirmation that this was a good decision. Thanks. From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sun Mar 14 14:42:32 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:42:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 screen/px/sync In-Reply-To: <200403131835.57062.joao@wipmail.com.br> References: <1079210178.2884.6.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> <200403131835.57062.joao@wipmail.com.br> Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, [iso-8859-1] Jo?o wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi > could you please check xdpyinfo regarding you sreen dimensions in x y mm? > And if what appears is really your screen dimension? > If not measure it in mm and you can put it in XF86Config into the monitor > section as > DisplaySize 286 216 > (put your mm here) > > There are several issues about and I got curious if your's has to do with it > also. The XF86Config which was generated during system install gave the screen size as 340x270, and xdpyinfo says it is 338x271. My gross measurements with tape says the latter is probably more accurate, depending on where you start/stop measuring. Changing XF86Config doesn't help. I still get a shift when going between X and text consoles. Given that my "stable" system doesn't exhibit this, I'm unlikely to recompile X as Alan suggested. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun Mar 14 14:45:46 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:45:46 -0500 Subject: Gnome menu in latest rawhide updates In-Reply-To: <40540F08.5030808@iinet.net.au> References: <1079181053.1757.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <40540F08.5030808@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4054701A.1090200@insight.rr.com> djh wrote: > Mike Chambers wrote: > >> After doing an update to rawhide last night, it seems there are two help >> menus, and extra ones added to my gnome menus. It's like there is KDE >> ones mixed in, instead of combined. >> >> > All of the category menus disappeared after I updated. > > David. > > Since both KDE and GNOME applications are able to run on either desktop choice. I would think that leaving both helps there and to give one GNOME help and the other KDE help would be better practice. At least the help is now available on the menus. Jim From swamper at adelphia.net Sun Mar 14 14:59:24 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:59:24 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> <4053EAEA.9030105@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040314145924.GA2406@localhost.localdomain> Thomas Molina wrote: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >>I had to boot into that "other" (2.4) kernel version. I reset the router > > >>and tried other things to the router before I figured out the issue is > > >>with the 2.6 kernel. > > >> > > >>First broken 3com card, then "busted router" issues. > > >> > > >>Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct > > >>the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) > > I don't know if anything has been submitted, but I checked to ensure I had > the latest version. I do. The update was from June of 2003 and the > release notes do not mention ECN at all. > > > > > I don't get this; if it worked with 2.4 and is broke with 2.6 > > > then WTF does this have to do with linksys? Sounds like it has > > > something to do with the Fedora updates included with this new > > > kernel version. Am I correct in assuming that the kernel itself > > > is not being developed in the project? > > It is even more interesting than that. Fedora's 2.6 handles the issues > different than the Linus 2.6. One of the experiments I did last night > tried to compare the two. I keep up with development kernels, so I have a > bitkeeper 2.6 repository available. For both the Fedora kernel and the > bitkeeper kernel I used the GUI tool to delete the existing network setup > and then recreated it. Using the Fedora kernel I got no Internet > connectivity, even after turning off ECN. If I used the bitkeeper kernel > I got full connectivity. If I created the network/eth0 setup using the > bitkeeper kernel I even got good connectivity using the Fedora kernel. > > I don't believe the Linksys was an issue in this test because I was using > static IP addresses. If someone wants me to take the Linksys completely > out of the loop I can; I just need to arrange a time to take the rest of > the family off-line. > > > > I guess with ECN being set to off, it didn't matter that ECN was broken. > > This is from what I read from other earlier email to this list or > > development. > > > > I went ahead and checked out the website for my router and flashed the > > december 2003 upgrade into it. > > > > I'll try to connect to the router from FC2 T1 using the 2.6 kernel and > > before running the command that was given earlier today to the list. > > echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn > > This sounds easier than having to boot into windows or into a 2.4 kernel. > > > > Related to linksys. I saw some information related to GPL sources > > available and a penguin on their site. Has anyone used this gpl code and > > is it for the larger scale routers? Any luck with the source codes? > > > I looked at the page. There isn't any code listed there for my Linksys, > so I haven't examined the code at all. My router is a BEFSR41v2. It doesn't look like Linksys supports my BEFW11S4 version 2. They have an upgrade for version 4 but nothing for version 2 so maybe it's time to look into getting a new toy. At this point I'm thinking of switching to another brand; I was not impressed with what they called their Linux support. It appears to me that if you want Linux support for a router, Linksys is not the company to deal with. Anyone have suggestions for a router company that hasn't totally sold out to Microsoft? I see the Cisco Systems logo at the bottom of the Linksys pages which only confused me more because I always thought Cisco was on top of the router game. From swamper at adelphia.net Sun Mar 14 15:06:13 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:06:13 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040314134555.GB8879@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> <20040314134555.GB8879@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040314150613.GB2406@localhost.localdomain> Alan Cox wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:09:15PM -0500, Swamper wrote: > > > Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct > > > the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) > > > > I don't get this; if it worked with 2.4 and is broke with 2.6 > > then WTF does this have to do with linksys? Sounds like it has > > Linksys routers appear to mishandle ECN (which is part of the TCP standard > and used by default in 2.6). OK, I wasn't aware of this and now I am curious why Linksys doesn't support this standard. From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 14 15:16:34 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:16:34 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040314145924.GA2406@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> <4053EAEA.9030105@insight.rr.com> <20040314145924.GA2406@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040314151634.GA2959@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 09:59:24AM -0500, Swamper wrote: > Anyone have suggestions for a router company that hasn't totally > sold out to Microsoft? I see the Cisco Systems logo at the > bottom of the Linksys pages which only confused me more because > I always thought Cisco was on top of the router game. Cisco bought them, but that doesn't mean the two are integrated yet. Cisco has also had ECN problems long ago with old old kit, but they did fix those (and then people kept running old IOS for years until the day that all the ECN buggy IOS releases were hit by a security bug which helped no end in cleaning up 8)) From veiko.sinivee at solo.delfi.ee Sun Mar 14 15:21:11 2004 From: veiko.sinivee at solo.delfi.ee (Veiko Sinivee) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:21:11 +0200 Subject: Some questions about Fedora Cora 2 test1 Message-ID: <1079277671.2202.9.camel@ip124.cab13.ktln.starman.ee> Hi, I installed Foedora Core 2 test1 on my laptop. I must admit it's working better. My laptop has a SIS gaphic chip and mayby because of this RedHat 9 and Fedora Core 1 never worked (Mandrake worked fine). Anaconda just didn't start. I tried with nofb but no help. Anyways now it works. So problems: 1) No drive icons for CD or USB stick. I read somewhere this is because of kernel 2.6. But the icons do not appear if I insert a CD or USB stick either. Probably a silly thing but I'd still like to know the answer. 2) How about CD writing now that ide-scsi is no longer used for CD writers? Can I use gtoaster? 3) I mounted USB stick with manual commands. If I resatrt computer with stick inserted the system recongnizes it. It always uses sda1 (still ide-scsi !) for it, but actually it should use sda4 (partitition 4 is used). If I correct it manually then the system constantly resets it to sda1 which is wrong. I removed the atribute "kudzu" from /etc/fstab entry to stop it being "too smart". This works but I think there's got to be a better way? regards, Veiko From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun Mar 14 15:25:28 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:25:28 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040314134555.GB8879@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> <20040314134555.GB8879@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40547968.6090106@insight.rr.com> Alan Cox wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:09:15PM -0500, Swamper wrote: > >>>Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct >>>the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) >> >>I don't get this; if it worked with 2.4 and is broke with 2.6 >>then WTF does this have to do with linksys? Sounds like it has > > > Linksys routers appear to mishandle ECN (which is part of the TCP standard > and used by default in 2.6). > > Alan > > I submitted a comment to Linksys about the mishandled ECN. I found out that turning off ECN was needed for the BEFSR41 version 2 Router that I have. I hope they do something about correcting the problem. Does anyone have experience with Linksys and their GPL source codes that are available? I did not see any reference to my particular model listed on their GPL area on their website? Jim From mharris at redhat.com Sun Mar 14 15:26:17 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:26:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Why the Monitor Database Deletions? In-Reply-To: <40537BF4.2020405@austin.rr.com> References: <40537BF4.2020405@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Jason Knight wrote: >Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:24:04 -0600 >From: Jason Knight >To: Fedora Test List >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >List-Id: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Why the Monitor Database Deletions? > >I noticed that in both Fedora Core 2 and Core 1 x86_64 there are >monitors missing in the listing. Example: in FC1 i386 there is a NEC >Multisync FP912SB whereas this entry is absent in the other two cores. I >only noticed this as this is my specific monitor. Was this upstream or what? Red Hat is the upstream. We maintain MonitorsDB ourselves. If there was something removed from the database between two OS releases it was either intentional and probably has a bugzilla entry, or it was accidental. The files are updated via manual human process of cut and pasting, so anything is possible. If you find any monitors missing, please file a bug report against the hwdata package, and if possible, attach the Windows .INF file for the monitor (or monitors) to the report as a file attachment, and we can extract the data easily and add it to the database that way. If you know a specific hwdata package release that does have the data, you can just indicate that also, and we can diff between two releases of the package to see when it was removed. Hope this helps. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 14 15:36:59 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:36:59 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: <40547968.6090106@insight.rr.com> References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> <20040314134555.GB8879@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40547968.6090106@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040314153659.GB13076@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 10:25:28AM -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > Does anyone have experience with Linksys and their GPL source codes that > are available? I did not see any reference to my particular model listed > on their GPL area on their website? Im under the impression the Linux using linksys products work properly with ECN From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun Mar 14 15:38:54 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:38:54 -0700 Subject: ATI Drivers fail with latest fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6 In-Reply-To: <40543F9A.6070402@webedge.dk> References: <40543F9A.6070402@webedge.dk> Message-ID: <40547C8E.1090108@xmission.com> Erik Reuter wrote: > We're having problems with the FC2 test 1 release and the > 2.6.3-2.1.253 kernel using the proprietary ATI fglrx 3.7.6 drivers. It > gives us an "incompatible device" error message, as you can see in > this rage3d thread: > > http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33747284 > > It works with a vanilla 2.6.3 kernel, but not with the one available > in FC2 test 1. I concur with your observation. FC2 T1 DOESN'T work with 3.7.6 or any FC2 kernel period. The link that someone posted is also of no help: http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.htm RaXeT From gavin.henry at magicfx.co.uk Sun Mar 14 15:38:14 2004 From: gavin.henry at magicfx.co.uk (Gavin Henry) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:38:14 +0000 Subject: apt In-Reply-To: References: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> Message-ID: <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 14 Mar 2004 13:31, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Gavin Henry wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Saturday 13 Mar 2004 03:16, James Bond wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I cannot see apt package on fedora core 2 test1 cd's!! Do I have to > > > download it from somewhere else? I think, it was there on Fedora core > > > 1. Any ideas!! > > > > CHeck ou tmy howto on http://fedoranews.org/ghenry/ > > BTW there's absolutely no need to manually upgrade rpm and apt first, > they'll get upgraded in dist-upgrade along with everything else. In fact > that might even cause extra problems since the binaries were built for > FC2, not FC1. > > - Panu - Panu, I did it, as this seemed to be the standard thing to do at the time according to the mailing lists. I know now that probably, just amending the sources.list would be easier. Gavin. - -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. http://www.magicfx.co.uk http://FedoraNEWS.ORG/ghenry http://www.suretecsystems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAVHxpgNqd7Kng8UoRAsr1AJ0YJS6B9k3x0xf8OqGT1lavnU2z5gCdFdpb j5vqjP/iiaMiBM9f3D6babg= =5/5U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From neuro at seclab.jp Sun Mar 14 15:42:08 2004 From: neuro at seclab.jp (Frederic de Villamil) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:42:08 +0100 Subject: Some questions about Fedora Cora 2 test1 In-Reply-To: <1079277671.2202.9.camel@ip124.cab13.ktln.starman.ee> References: <1079277671.2202.9.camel@ip124.cab13.ktln.starman.ee> Message-ID: <20040314154208.GA85521@jesus.seclab.jp> Hi Veiko! On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Veiko Sinivee wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Foedora Core 2 test1 on my laptop. I must admit it's working > better. My laptop has a SIS gaphic chip and mayby because of this RedHat > 9 and Fedora Core 1 never worked (Mandrake worked fine). Anaconda just > didn't start. I tried with nofb but no help. Anyways now it works. > So problems: > 1) No drive icons for CD or USB stick. I read somewhere this is because > of kernel 2.6. But the icons do not appear if I insert a CD or USB stick > either. Probably a silly thing but I'd still like to know the answer. > 2) How about CD writing now that ide-scsi is no longer used for CD > writers? Can I use gtoaster? > 3) I mounted USB stick with manual commands. If I resatrt computer with > stick inserted the system recongnizes it. It always uses sda1 (still > ide-scsi !) for it, but actually it should use sda4 (partitition 4 is > used). If I correct it manually then the system constantly resets it to > sda1 which is wrong. I removed the atribute "kudzu" from /etc/fstab > entry to stop it being "too smart". This works but I think there's got > to be a better way? > > > regards, > > Veiko Hi, About the first point did you have a look at your /etc/fstab? Does your cdrom line points to your cdrom device? When I insert a cdrom into my cdrom drive, it is automaticaly mounted, and I have the icon on my Desktop (I'm currently using gnome). About the second one, it seems the cdrtools and dvdrtools now support atapi drives and it works very well for me. About the third one, I must admit I don't know :(. regards Frederic -- < Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president et pere de famille respectable :s http://www.seclab.jp From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun Mar 14 15:43:04 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:43:04 -0500 Subject: My problems with FC2 test1 In-Reply-To: References: <20040313151354.GA23880@localhost.localdomain> <4053CFD2.3020403@insight.rr.com> <20040314040915.GA25168@localhost.localdomain> <4053EAEA.9030105@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <40547D88.9030800@insight.rr.com> Thomas Molina wrote: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>>>I had to boot into that "other" (2.4) kernel version. I reset the router >>>>and tried other things to the router before I figured out the issue is >>>>with the 2.6 kernel. >>>> >>>>First broken 3com card, then "busted router" issues. >>>> >>>>Does anyone know if somethong has been submitted to linksys to correct >>>>the problem yet? (Firmware upgrade) > > > I don't know if anything has been submitted, but I checked to ensure I had > the latest version. I do. The update was from June of 2003 and the > release notes do not mention ECN at all. > > I have the same version 1.45.7, Jul 31 2003 installed. I recently submitted a comment to Linksys regarding the ECN issue. > >>>I don't get this; if it worked with 2.4 and is broke with 2.6 >>>then WTF does this have to do with linksys? Sounds like it has >>>something to do with the Fedora updates included with this new >>>kernel version. Am I correct in assuming that the kernel itself >>>is not being developed in the project? > > > It is even more interesting than that. Fedora's 2.6 handles the issues > different than the Linus 2.6. One of the experiments I did last night > tried to compare the two. I keep up with development kernels, so I have a > bitkeeper 2.6 repository available. For both the Fedora kernel and the > bitkeeper kernel I used the GUI tool to delete the existing network setup > and then recreated it. I have left my setups alone and can connect to the internet using DHCP for both the external addresses and for the IP addresses that the internal network gets assigned from the router. My problem is getting to the router setup only. It seems to work fine with FC1, FC2 and win-whatever machines. Using the Fedora kernel I got no Internet > connectivity, even after turning off ECN. If I used the bitkeeper kernel > I got full connectivity. If I created the network/eth0 setup using the > bitkeeper kernel I even got good connectivity using the Fedora kernel. > > I don't believe the Linksys was an issue in this test because I was using > static IP addresses. If someone wants me to take the Linksys completely > out of the loop I can; I just need to arrange a time to take the rest of > the family off-line. > > > >>I guess with ECN being set to off, it didn't matter that ECN was broken. >> This is from what I read from other earlier email to this list or >>development. >> >>I went ahead and checked out the website for my router and flashed the >>december 2003 upgrade into it. was actually 1.45.7, Jul 31 2003, (zip was from december 2003.) >>I'll try to connect to the router from FC2 T1 using the 2.6 kernel and >>before running the command that was given earlier today to the list. >>echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn >>This sounds easier than having to boot into windows or into a 2.4 kernel. I get an error without running the ecn command. I can access the router page after running the command. FC2 T1 w/ kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 >>Related to linksys. I saw some information related to GPL sources >>available and a penguin on their site. Has anyone used this gpl code and >>is it for the larger scale routers? Any luck with the source codes? > > > > I looked at the page. There isn't any code listed there for my Linksys, > so I haven't examined the code at all. My router is a BEFSR41v2. > Same router that I have. Jim > From wertmane at comcast.net Sun Mar 14 15:46:12 2004 From: wertmane at comcast.net (Eric Wertman) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:46:12 -0500 Subject: rhgb not working In-Reply-To: <20040314152022.C437C7392A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <000001c409db$7ac7d1a0$54f45144@monolith> I've done some upgrading and made some changes to my Fedoora Core2 test, in the following vein: Yum updated to the latest development tree Compiled and installed Xfree 4.4 Compiled and installed Kernel 2.6.4 Other than one or two OpenGL screensavers no longer working, the only issue I'm having is with rhgb. I've verified the settings in /etc/sysconfig/init, and I've even re-installed the rhgb package, but still doesn't work. The grub line looks ok.. Has rhgb appended. My question, really, is what is required for it to work? I feel pretty certain that it would be due to the kernel change before the others. I get the console in fb mode, so I would think that is the primary requirement. Any suggestions? Rhgb seems to not have a man page. Thanks! From fedora.core2 at chello.nl Sun Mar 14 16:19:24 2004 From: fedora.core2 at chello.nl (Hay Bouten) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:19:24 +0100 Subject: HP Scanjet 6200C not working with usblib Message-ID: <1079281164.1940.18.camel@lshay002.bouten.org> Hi list, My HP Scanjet 6200C is not working with kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253. The module usb scanner has gone and now it all should work with usblib, but it doesn't. When I have a look into /var/log/messages I see: > drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usbfs > drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hub > USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: UHCI Host Controller > uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: irq 5, io base 0000b400 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 > hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found > hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected > uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: UHCI Host Controller > uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: irq 9, io base 0000b000 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 > hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found > hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 So to me that looks like the kernel is finding 2 USB Hubs and 1 USB device. This is according to my hardware setup. sane-find-scanner displays: > found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0, product=0x0201) at libusb:001:002 scanimage -L displays: > device `hp:libusb:001:002' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 62x0C flatbed > scanner When I start xsane it doesn't detect the scanner the first time. When I give it a second try it detects something. The system then is getting very sluggish and in the /var/log/messages I see: > kernel: usb 1-1: control timeout on ep0out > usb.agent[2829]: ... no modules for USB product 3f0/201/100 This messages are repeated over and over. Xsane doesn't work but it seams to be starting. It displays the first screen after after 45 sec. Ran this al as root so that I don't have to chmod the /proc/bus/usb/001/002 every time. As a normal user I get the same problems. Can anybody help. All the help from last week didn't to the trick. Thanks, Hay From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sun Mar 14 16:33:19 2004 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:33:19 -0700 Subject: rhgb not working In-Reply-To: <000001c409db$7ac7d1a0$54f45144@monolith> References: <20040314152022.C437C7392A@hormel.redhat.com> <000001c409db$7ac7d1a0$54f45144@monolith> Message-ID: <20040314163319.GH16729@charlescurley.com> On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 10:46:12AM -0500, Eric Wertman wrote: > I've done some upgrading and made some changes to my Fedoora Core2 test, in > the following vein: > > Yum updated to the latest development tree > Compiled and installed Xfree 4.4 > Compiled and installed Kernel 2.6.4 > > Other than one or two OpenGL screensavers no longer working, the only issue > I'm having is with rhgb. I've verified the settings in /etc/sysconfig/init, > and I've even re-installed the rhgb package, but still doesn't work. The > grub line looks ok.. Has rhgb appended. > > My question, really, is what is required for it to work? I feel pretty > certain that it would be due to the kernel change before the others. I get > the console in fb mode, so I would think that is the primary requirement. > > Any suggestions? Rhgb seems to not have a man page. There are some useful suggestions at http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-January/msg04011.html. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jon at plainculture.com Sun Mar 14 16:37:55 2004 From: jon at plainculture.com (Jon) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:37:55 -0500 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) In-Reply-To: <1079247821.2552.23.camel@CirithUngol> References: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> <1079247821.2552.23.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <40548A63.4050302@plainculture.com> Andrew Farris wrote: >On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 21:16 -0500, Jon wrote: > > > >>[jon at localhost jon]$ up2date >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 12, in ? >> import rpm >>ImportError: /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so: symbol regexec, version >>GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference >> >>I tried updating from yum, and it comes out with the same output somewhat: >> >>[jon at localhost jon]$ yum >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? >> import yummain >> File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 22, in ? >> import clientStuff >> File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 18, in ? >> import rpm >>ImportError: /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so: symbol regexec, version >>GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference >> >> > >What versions of these do you have currently? >rpm -q up2date yum rpm rpm-devel > >librpmio-4.3.so is part of the rpm-devel package so if you're going to >bugzilla this issue it should probably be against rpm since it is >independent of up2date/yum. I don't see it there yet, but make sure to >do a search yourself in case I missed it. Before you do that make sure >you have the latest versions of the above packages tho. > > > Well, I'm not sure why the segmentation fault (the dumb thing...), but this is how it comes out: [jon at localhost jon]$ rpm -q up2date yum rpm rpm-devel up2date-4.3.11-2.1.1 yum-2.0.5.20040310-1 rpm-4.3-0.20 Segmentation fault [jon at localhost jon]$ I haven't tried upgrading to glibc manually, so I'm going to try that. I often try to avoid updating glibc for as much as I can... -- Jon MacG. jon.plainculture.com From mrsam at courier-mta.com Sun Mar 14 16:55:21 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:55:21 -0500 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) References: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> <1079247821.2552.23.camel@CirithUngol> <40548A63.4050302@plainculture.com> Message-ID: Jon writes: >> > Well, I'm not sure why the segmentation fault (the dumb thing...), but > this is how it comes out: > > [jon at localhost jon]$ rpm -q up2date yum rpm rpm-devel > up2date-4.3.11-2.1.1 > yum-2.0.5.20040310-1 > rpm-4.3-0.20 > Segmentation fault > [jon at localhost jon]$ > > I haven't tried upgrading to glibc manually, so I'm going to try that. I > often try to avoid updating glibc for as much as I can... If rpm itself is segfaulting here, then I would suspect a corrupt rpm database. Go to /var/lib/rpm and remove all the __db.* crap. If that still doesn't fix it try rpm --rebuilddb. And if that doesn't work, you're screwed. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jon at plainculture.com Sun Mar 14 16:55:42 2004 From: jon at plainculture.com (Jon) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:55:42 -0500 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) In-Reply-To: <20040314081535.GA3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> References: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> <20040314081535.GA3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> Message-ID: <40548E8E.6010503@plainculture.com> Barry K. Nathan wrote: >On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 09:16:28PM -0500, Jon wrote: > > >>GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference >> >> > >Use rpm to manually freshen or upgrade to the latest glibc packages in >rawhide (2.3.3-16, I think). Then up2date and yum will work again. > >-Barry K. Nathan > > > > Worked. Thanks. :) -- Jon MacG. jon.plainculture.com From jon at plainculture.com Sun Mar 14 17:09:46 2004 From: jon at plainculture.com (Jon) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 12:09:46 -0500 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) In-Reply-To: References: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> <1079247821.2552.23.camel@CirithUngol> <40548A63.4050302@plainculture.com> Message-ID: <405491DA.7060204@plainculture.com> Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Jon writes: > >>> >> Well, I'm not sure why the segmentation fault (the dumb thing...), >> but this is how it comes out: >> >> [jon at localhost jon]$ rpm -q up2date yum rpm rpm-devel >> up2date-4.3.11-2.1.1 >> yum-2.0.5.20040310-1 >> rpm-4.3-0.20 >> Segmentation fault >> [jon at localhost jon]$ >> >> I haven't tried upgrading to glibc manually, so I'm going to try >> that. I often try to avoid updating glibc for as much as I can... > > > If rpm itself is segfaulting here, then I would suspect a corrupt rpm > database. > > Go to /var/lib/rpm and remove all the __db.* crap. If that still > doesn't fix it try rpm --rebuilddb. And if that doesn't work, you're > screwed. > > Never mind, it was screwed because of glibc (I believe). After getting it updated, it comes out without the seg fault. [jon at localhost jon]$ sudo rpm -q up2date yum rpm rpm-devel up2date-4.3.11-2.1.1 yum-2.0.5.20040310-1 rpm-4.3-0.20 rpm-devel-4.3-0.9.1 Thanks anyway. -- Jon MacG. jon.plainculture.com From terraformers at gmx.net Sun Mar 14 18:40:16 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:40:16 +0100 Subject: KDE menu-structure, configs and icons lost Message-ID: <200403141940.16504.terraformers@gmx.net> same menu problems here lars From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sun Mar 14 19:01:55 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:01:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: up2date missing packages Message-ID: I've read some of the previous messages about missing dependencies, and I've run into the same problem. I tried one person's suggestion of yum --exclude=gstreamer update and found another group of packages which couldn't be updated. I was under the impression the situation was going to be fixed at the repository. I'm not going to chanse an increasing circle of dependencies. I was used to using mirror, a perl-based package, which merely downloaded new packages. I could then do a simple rpm -Fvh. However, I decided to try the up2date. So has someone come up with a list of packages to be excluded which will allow up2date to work? From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun Mar 14 19:10:07 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:10:07 +0100 Subject: KDE menu-structure, configs and icons lost In-Reply-To: <200403141940.16504.terraformers@gmx.net> References: <200403141940.16504.terraformers@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200403142010.07637.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Lars wrote: > same menu problems here Here not only menu problems: - KDE does not save configs - problems with allocations of konqueror and editors - konqueror does not start embedded tools for opnening text documents, for example, it starts the "normal action" programs - I can not see where KDE get its menu - structure from; kmenuedit alsways starts with the actual menu, but there are some icons I can't see in the real menu - no failures while running kmenuedit in the konsole - .xsession-errors shows many "trying without Euro" Seems to be a very difficult and very important error, KDE is not really usable with these problems! Roland From georg at georgs.org Sun Mar 14 19:11:33 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:11:33 +0100 Subject: up2date missing packages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4054AE65.4020208@georgs.org> Thomas Molina wrote: >I've read some of the previous messages about missing dependencies, and >I've run into the same problem. I tried one person's suggestion of yum >--exclude=gstreamer update > >and found another group of packages which couldn't be updated. > whitch ? >I was >under the impression the situation was going to be fixed at the >repository. I'm not going to chanse an increasing circle of dependencies. >I was used to using mirror, a perl-based package, which merely downloaded >new packages. I could then do a simple rpm -Fvh. However, I decided to >try the up2date. > >So has someone come up with a list of packages to be excluded which will >allow up2date to work? > > > at the moment I know just gstreamer See the Thread from 2004-03-12: yum problem failed deps Georg E Schneider From biped at comcast.net Sun Mar 14 19:27:56 2004 From: biped at comcast.net (Marcus Schuetz) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:27:56 -0500 Subject: up2date missing packages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4054B23C.2000107@comcast.net> Thomas Molina released the following into the bitstream on 03/14/04 14:01: > I've read some of the previous messages about missing dependencies, and > I've run into the same problem. I tried one person's suggestion of yum > --exclude=gstreamer update > > and found another group of packages which couldn't be updated. I was > under the impression the situation was going to be fixed at the > repository. I'm not going to chanse an increasing circle of dependencies. > I was used to using mirror, a perl-based package, which merely downloaded > new packages. I could then do a simple rpm -Fvh. However, I decided to > try the up2date. > > So has someone come up with a list of packages to be excluded which will > allow up2date to work? > > I understand your pain, but that's the price you pay for living at the bleeding edge :-) At the moment (at least for me) nautilus-media requirements are holding up the updates of sound-juicer, gstreamer and gnome-applets and IIRC rhythmbox. Usually these dependancy issues get resolved within a few days. But keep in mind that using the development tree, this is something that will happen again and again. Your alternative is to stick to the base and only do updates through the update channel. But where is the fun in that? :-) :: Marcus From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sun Mar 14 19:44:36 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:44:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: up2date missing packages In-Reply-To: <4054AE65.4020208@georgs.org> References: <4054AE65.4020208@georgs.org> Message-ID: > >So has someone come up with a list of packages to be excluded which will > >allow up2date to work? > > > > > > > at the moment I know just gstreamer > See the Thread from 2004-03-12: yum problem failed deps Thanks for the pointer. There was a message in there about doing an rpm -e nautilus-media, which is what worked for me. From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sun Mar 14 19:59:21 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:59:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: up2date missing packages In-Reply-To: <4054B23C.2000107@comcast.net> References: <4054B23C.2000107@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Marcus Schuetz wrote: > I understand your pain, but that's the price you pay for living at the > bleeding edge :-) At the moment (at least for me) nautilus-media > requirements are holding up the updates of sound-juicer, gstreamer and > gnome-applets and IIRC rhythmbox. Usually these dependancy issues get > resolved within a few days. But keep in mind that using the development > tree, this is something that will happen again and again. Your > alternative is to stick to the base and only do updates through the > update channel. But where is the fun in that? :-) I keep forgetting that. The first few days are usually the worst for me. After that I usually get used to the quirks. I'm here for testing, so I guess I need to reduce the whining :) From mike at netlyncs.com Sun Mar 14 20:30:10 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:30:10 -0600 Subject: Rsync + keeping local dir's Message-ID: <1079296210.1740.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Is there an option or a way to use rsync to mirror a remote directory, and include my own subdir's without them being removed (local dir only)? As in, I mirror rawhide dir and I also want to make that dir yumable and keep it that way instead of running yum-arch after the mirror runs. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Sun Mar 14 20:31:10 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:31:10 -0500 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) References: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> <40540CE7.6010806@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Thanks for the info regarding glibc-2.3.4-16 package for a non working up2date, it works alton ----- Original Message ----- From: "djh" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: 03/14/2004 2:42 AM Subject: Re: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) > Jon wrote: > > > ... > > I tried updating from yum, and it comes out with the same output > > somewhat: > > > > [jon at localhost jon]$ yum > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? > > import yummain > > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 22, in ? > > import clientStuff > > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 18, in ? > > import rpm > > ImportError: /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so: symbol regexec, version > > GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference > > Manually upgrading glibc should fix that. > > David. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 14 20:34:15 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:34:15 -0500 Subject: Rsync + keeping local dir's In-Reply-To: <1079296210.1740.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1079296210.1740.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1079296455.8655.58.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 14:30 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Is there an option or a way to use rsync to mirror a remote directory, > and include my own subdir's without them being removed (local dir only)? > > As in, I mirror rawhide dir and I also want to make that dir yumable and > keep it that way instead of running yum-arch after the mirror runs. rawhide is yum-enabled. but you can always use rsync --exclude=headers -sv From hes at xinit.se Sun Mar 14 21:11:41 2004 From: hes at xinit.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Hans_Eric_Sandstr=F6m?=) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:11:41 +0100 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! References: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> Message-ID: <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> These are the packages I removed after doing a minimal install: # rpm -e apmd aspell aspell-en attr autofs comps dump gnupg hotplug isdn4k-utils jfsutils kudzu lftp libwvstreams lrzsz minicom nano parted pcmcia-cs rdate system-config-mouse system-config-network-tui setserial sendmail specspo star statserial up2date usbutils wireless-tools wget wvdial yp-tools ypbind yum irda-utils I could argue for keeping yum/up2date but I really would like to have apt-rpm instead. One of the package managers (up2date/you or apt-get) is needed to make it easy to add/update packages later. I've been a RedHat user since RedHat 4 or something and vith every new version more bloat gets added. I remember the days when one could install SLS from a couple of diskettes. Lets try to break this trend with Fedora. Here are my suggestions: 1. Create a real Minimal Install option in the Text Based Installation. 2. Remove the above packages and probably a bunch more. A minimal install should be..., right minimal! 3. Break out /usr/share/doc from the packages and make xxx-docs packages of them. Take a look in /usr/share doc: # du -s * | sort -nr | head -4 4184 bash-2.05b 2752 pam-0.77 2560 gawk-3.1.3 1496 glibc-common-2.3.3 Just having a bash-docs package saves 4Mb from a minimal install. Another option would be to install with rpm --excludedocs if minimal install is choosen. But I think I want to keep the man pages hmmm... There are probably lots of other things to do, but we need to start somewhere. Hans Eric Sandstr?m, MailCore AB From joao at wipmail.com.br Sun Mar 14 21:22:19 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:22:19 -0300 Subject: KDE menu-structure, configs and icons lost In-Reply-To: <200403141940.16504.terraformers@gmx.net> References: <200403141940.16504.terraformers@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200403141822.28956.joao@wipmail.com.br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 14 Marcho 2004 15:40, some wrote: > same menu problems here Hi and hello certainly there are several issue out regarding use of KDE on FC The standard FC1 setup with KDE-3.1.4 is working fine when you do not need to so much gnome settings. The problems come when you upgrade to KDE 3.2 or 3.2.1 under certain circunstancies ... I have several bugreports open at bugs.kde.org and some are already corrected and others is beeing worked on. I suggest that you open your own reports there also to get better support . Problems are Kmenu, Kcontrol, Themes missing, Icon size mismatch, fontsize mismatch. Fontinstaller and other personalized settings. Biggest problems come when using the 3.2.1 rpms, either upgrading 3.1.4 or 3.2 3.2 is usable but to get it full please read my experience here. Best is to uninstall ALL grafical environment inlcuding X. And then re-install only X without any RH-Gnome, but if that is hard for you here is another way: Set your FC - KDE 3.1.4 back to all default settings and get rid of almost all what you can what is redhat specific gnome based apps. Even uninstall them (redhat-config-files) Go back to Kcontrol and set all default settings from KControlCenter. Take care with font installer because it screws your X FS settings! (not only on FC, ok) When you are now almost on "pure" KDE, then upgrade or force refresh the latest XFree rpms Doublecheck your XF86Config and run xdpyinfo first to see if your screensettings are ok and correct them before upgrading (most important for laptops) Probable you need to set your screen x/y in XF86Config under the monitor section with DisplaySize x-mm y-mm mm == millimeters Then reboot your box and check if everything works fine Now upgrade your box in this sequence: sip* taglib* Py* qt* arts* You may want to init 1 && init 4|5 now for precaution Now take the kde files, important to do this sequence: kdebase* kdenetwork* kdelibs* kde-i18* if you need them and now all other kdes you like and last koffice and then koffice-i18 if needing After rebooting you may enter KControl and check first your ICON-THEME, if it is not as default as crystalsvg select it and DO NOT click the default-button again and do not uninstall this icons never ever. - From now on you can configure your KDE-3.2 to your taste and allmost all should work. Do not touch fontinstaller. It screws your X-FS. It was fixed yesterday and should be on the next packages available (or compile from HEAD) This upgrade you may upgrade problem-less to 3.2.1 - BUT - your Kmenu icons (those in front of the item) may be bigger as normal (22x22px). Never use synaptics on this installs, use only apt-get and when it fails download the rpm and install "manual" what you need. Stay away from rh specific install apps which have a gnomian face without any problem you still can use rhgb and gdm if you prefer but kdm works fine. cheers Jo?o - -- Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc ?{ DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F ?6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAVM0QCmIEQLX9sjoRAjMcAJ9I6wYbFW4gYJChC6o3N+di34NRlQCdHZlJ YFh/KxhH0lL05kZpvJgogBk= =sCTw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joao at wipmail.com.br Sun Mar 14 21:35:25 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:35:25 -0300 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! In-Reply-To: <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> References: <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> Message-ID: <200403141835.29417.joao@wipmail.com.br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 14 March 2004 18:11, Hans Eric Sandstr?m wrote: > 1. Create a real Minimal Install option in the Text Based Installation. > 2. Remove the above packages and probably a bunch more. A minimal install > should be..., right minimal! .. some cut... > There are probably lots of other things to do, but we need to start > somewhere. hey man .. I like you :) there are indeed still lots of megs more than what you called what you never will use or see. I believe that then FreeBSD is the best orientation Base install is the server without any X or apps, it is the operating system only. In case of freeBSD is it some 2/300MB or so Your doc-package is a good idea, but I guess not so much people would like it Then all what you put in has its dependencies and are automaticall installed. So lets say you want KDE, then all needed packages are installed. Nothing more nothing less For me that is a very clever idea - and abstract. But I do not know if this is comparable with LINUX philosophy because most people use it as a workstation. Jo?o - -- Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc ?{ DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F ?6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAVNAdCmIEQLX9sjoRAmOcAKCAa/o8yWT6fiHx427sVbNMjTnu0QCfdLo6 AHclOaCivTjuMcp/8pqs+9U= =pQ2z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From warlock_ba at hotmail.com Sun Mar 14 21:44:56 2004 From: warlock_ba at hotmail.com (Andrei Botoaca) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:44:56 +0200 Subject: KDE menu-structure, configs and icons lost In-Reply-To: <200403141940.16504.terraformers@gmx.net> References: <200403141940.16504.terraformers@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1079300695.4598.0.camel@gelu.damage_inc> Same icons problem here .... but what i did is throw all icons in the same dumb folder ... and now 90% work, but NOT ALL ... On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 20:40, Lars wrote: > same menu problems here > > lars > From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 14 22:13:01 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:13:01 -0500 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! In-Reply-To: <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> References: <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> Message-ID: <20040314221301.GA16764@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 10:11:41PM +0100, Hans Eric Sandstr?m wrote: > These are the packages I removed after doing a minimal install: > > # rpm -e apmd aspell aspell-en attr autofs comps dump gnupg hotplug > isdn4k-utils jfsutils kudzu lftp libwvstreams lrzsz minicom nano parted > pcmcia-cs rdate system-config-mouse system-config-network-tui setserial > sendmail specspo star statserial up2date usbutils wireless-tools wget wvdial > yp-tools ypbind yum irda-utils hotplug is pretty much essential nowdays (even more so with 2.6.x) but the others look like pruning candidates for some definition of minimal I must admit From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun Mar 14 22:29:38 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:29:38 +0100 Subject: KDE menu-structure, configs and icons lost In-Reply-To: <200403141822.28956.joao@wipmail.com.br> References: <200403141940.16504.terraformers@gmx.net> <200403141822.28956.joao@wipmail.com.br> Message-ID: <200403142329.38174.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Jo?o wrote: > On Sunday 14 Marcho 2004 15:40, some wrote: > > same menu problems here > > certainly there are several issue out regarding use of KDE on FC > > The standard FC1 setup with KDE-3.1.4 is working fine when you do not need > to so much gnome settings. > > The problems come when you upgrade to KDE 3.2 or 3.2.1 under certain > circunstancies ... Well - a long list, and not only a few things to do... For me everything was fine with KDE 3.2.1 until i updated two days ago - hard to believe that I have to do all the stuff only because I get these "unimportend" package updates... Just a question: whats about the kde-redhat packages when they are coming up for Fedora Core 2 (maybe test xy)? Do they have the same problems? Or will they solve them? Roland From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun Mar 14 22:33:46 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:33:46 +0100 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! In-Reply-To: <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> References: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> Message-ID: <4054DDCA.40903@gmx.de> Hans Eric Sandstr?m wrote: >These are the packages I removed after doing a minimal install: > ># rpm -e apmd aspell aspell-en attr autofs comps dump gnupg hotplug >isdn4k-utils jfsutils kudzu lftp libwvstreams lrzsz minicom nano parted >pcmcia-cs rdate system-config-mouse system-config-network-tui setserial >sendmail specspo star statserial up2date usbutils wireless-tools wget wvdial >yp-tools ypbind yum irda-utils > >I could argue for keeping yum/up2date but I really would like to have apt-rpm >instead. One of the package managers (up2date/you or apt-get) is needed to >make it easy to add/update packages later. > > why do you need for this few packages apt ? rpm -Fvh ftp|http://blabla should be more than enough. >[...] >There are probably lots of other things to do, but we need to start somewhere. > afair there exist such a minimal install project start eg. here "minimal install option" http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-beta-list/2003-August/thread.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-beta-list/2003-August/msg01131.html Here is a short, quick list of what I see needs to be removed from an install "for creating small router/firewall boxes": aspell aspell-en autofs dhclient finger irda-utils mt-st mtools krb5-workstation nfs-utils pam_smb rsh # should not be a default or mandatory install at all jwhois wget ypbind unix2dos kudzu # do not generally find router/firewall boxes w/changing hardware at #firewalls/routers not usually using at commands parted #firewalls are pretty static partition-wise, remove sudo # plagued w/security concerns and not useful on a router/firewall talk # TALK!?!?!?! on a FIREWALL??!? -- shrek-m From joao at wipmail.com.br Sun Mar 14 22:41:05 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:41:05 -0300 Subject: KDE menu-structure, configs and icons lost In-Reply-To: <200403142329.38174.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200403141940.16504.terraformers@gmx.net> <200403141822.28956.joao@wipmail.com.br> <200403142329.38174.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200403141941.10636.joao@wipmail.com.br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 14 March 2004 19:29, Roland Wolters wrote: > Once upon a time Jo?o wrote: hehe, was not so long ago :) Dear Roland I can not answer you question. But kde fedora packages from RH should not have any of this problems I guess Probably there are other ways to upgrade. Like you see, yours worked until you run an upgrade. So the art would be to find out which package messed it up ... So I had no fun with that and made a clean-up and worked The rpms I used are from ftp.kde.org under the fedora stable directory ... > > Well - a long list, and not only a few things to do... > For me everything was fine with KDE 3.2.1 until i updated two days ago - > hard to believe that I have to do all the stuff only because I get these > "unimportend" package updates... > > Just a question: whats about the kde-redhat packages when they are coming > up for Fedora Core 2 (maybe test xy)? > Do they have the same problems? > Or will they solve them? > > Roland - -- Eu enviei esta msg - I send this msg: GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc ?{ DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F ?6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAVN+CCmIEQLX9sjoRAugGAJ4jYYP56TGpTiKPv5xYjLP6YjVSkwCgnsR3 oar/CWOaqmraLiAYr3MA/+I= =E6ZO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dennis at ausil.us Sun Mar 14 22:53:19 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:53:19 +1000 Subject: KDE menu-structure, configs and icons lost In-Reply-To: <200403141349.36820.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200403141349.36820.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200403150853.24008.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Sunday 14 March 2004 10:49 pm, Roland Wolters wrote: > Hi, > I updated my development system through apt-get thiso day, and lost several > configs of my KDE: the menu-structure was lost, several icons disappeared > there, some icons in the panels were lost (the "konsole" and the "kontact" > i added) and some configs were lost, like html open with Konqueror. > I tried to repair my menu, but it doesnt matter what I add to the menu-edit > programm, nothing works, it does not show the changes! > > The update was about 100 Packages, no new kernel, but new kde-libs, I > think. The rest, like KDE 3.2.1, was already installed. > > Do you have the same problems? > Maybe it depends on the new kde-libs, or on the new redhat-menu? > > Roland Not going to help much but i have 3.2.1 on a FC1 and FC2 test1 system and both of them are working fine and act as they should my test1 system has XFCE Gnome and KDE installed my FC1 system has only KDE. sorry i cant help any more than that. Dennis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From shugal at gmx.de Mon Mar 15 00:01:44 2004 From: shugal at gmx.de (Martin Stricker) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:01:44 +0100 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! References: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> Message-ID: <4054F268.C10837C@gmx.de> Hans Eric Sandstr?m wrote: > I've been a RedHat user since RedHat 4 or something and vith every > new version more bloat gets added. I remember the days when one could > install SLS from a couple of diskettes. Lets try to break this trend > with Fedora. This was one of the reasons which led to the foundation of the RULE (run up2date Linux everywhere). Go to http://www.rule-project.org/en/ and get the newest Slinky installer at http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/rule/slinky/ , it will give you a *real* minimal install. I'm not sure, though, if it already is compatible with FC. Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 9 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ From mickeyboa at comcast.net Mon Mar 15 00:16:15 2004 From: mickeyboa at comcast.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:16:15 -0500 Subject: up2date hangs on getting glibc-2.3.3-16 header Message-ID: <4054F5CF.4010009@comcast.net> Why?? From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 15 00:23:05 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:23:05 +0100 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! In-Reply-To: <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> References: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> Message-ID: <1079310184.4747.27.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Hans, > These are the packages I removed after doing a minimal install: Ever tried using rpm --aid? Assuming you installed rpmdb-fedora on the source system and setup /etc/rpm/macros.solve correctly something like "rpm --root --aid rpm-.rpm" will render a more minimal install than the "Minimal Install" with anaconda. Something like 200MB for FC 1 IIRC. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 15 00:25:09 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:25:09 +0100 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! In-Reply-To: <1079310184.4747.27.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> <1079310184.4747.27.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079310309.4747.30.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi, > "rpm --root --aid rpm-.rpm" That of course should read rpm --root --aid -i rpm-.rpm Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From joao at wipmail.com.br Mon Mar 15 03:31:40 2004 From: joao at wipmail.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o?=) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 00:31:40 -0300 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! In-Reply-To: <1079310184.4747.27.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040314.UU6.69248200@admin.mega.net.br> Leonard den Ottolander (leonard at den.ottolander.nl) escreve: > > Ever tried using rpm --aid? Assuming you installed rpmdb-fedora on the > source system and setup /etc/rpm/macros.solve correctly something like > "rpm --root --aid rpm-.rpm" will render a more > minimal install than the "Minimal Install" with anaconda. Something like > 200MB for FC 1 IIRC. > that is cool! we are no stupid people we only know less :) happy sunday! J?o -- GPG Key http://info.matik.com.br/joao.asc { DF72 5E34 A773 2CA7 951F 6C2B 0A62 0440 B5FD B23A } From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon Mar 15 01:07:37 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:07:37 -0500 Subject: up2date missing packages In-Reply-To: References: <4054AE65.4020208@georgs.org> Message-ID: <405501D9.9050903@insight.rr.com> Thomas Molina wrote: >>>So has someone come up with a list of packages to be excluded which will >>>allow up2date to work? >>> >>> >>> >> >>at the moment I know just gstreamer >>See the Thread from 2004-03-12: yum problem failed deps > > > Thanks for the pointer. There was a message in there about doing an rpm > -e nautilus-media, which is what worked for me. > > I removed nautilus-media as was suggested and all of the other programs installed fine. After completing the successful update without nautilus-media. I ran up2date to try to reinstall the program. There were two library errors. I guess I'll wait until the errors can be resolved. Jim From steve_dum at mentorg.com Mon Mar 15 02:01:25 2004 From: steve_dum at mentorg.com (steve_dum at mentorg.com) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:01:25 -0800 Subject: DVD Players & these DeCSS Rulings In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:02:20 MST." <200403131702.22018.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Message-ID: <200403150201.i2F21PMv032235@pinon.wv.mentorg.com> You missed the implicit wink. I don't think it's more compatible. It does create a need for DeCSS that is not to play commercial dvd's. In message <200403131702.22018.wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>you write: >steve_dum at mentorg.com wrote: > >> it would be legal to distribute a program that allowed individuals >> to record their own personal DVD's using DeCSS encription (to assure >> maximal compatibility with DVD players) > >I'm not even going to speculate on the legality issue, but where did you >get the idea that using CSS makes a disc more compatible? CSS is a purely >optional part of DVD encoding; a not inconsiderable number of commercial >DVDs are released without CSS scrambling, probably because it's >cheaper--no paying CSS fees through your mastering/replication facility. >It'll be interesting to see if these fees go away now... > >--wes (sorry for the OT digression) > > > From adamo97 at comcast.net Mon Mar 15 02:05:55 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:05:55 -0500 Subject: Local Network Installation via HTTP or FTP Fails Message-ID: I have been desperately trying to perform a "clean-install" of FC2 since it's release. I downloaded FC2-test1 using the torrent file FC2-test1-binary-i386.torrent MD5SUM's were correct and the images burned without a problem, but for some strange reason, my IBM ThinkPad A30 will not boot properly from the burned ISO images. I even burned "boot.iso" alone and it failed exactly the same way, "installation unexpectedly quit" So instead I downloaded the entire /development directory from: http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/ And now I'm trying to install "rawhide" using a local server. Once again I burned "boot.iso" from the downloaded /development directory and began the installation as usual. I've now tried HTTP and FTP without success. It just dies at the "retrieving base/stage2.img" screen. I realize that "stage2.img" is roughly 66MB but I'm on a local network so it should've only taken a few minutes. I let it go all night and it was still on the same screen in the morning. It dies the same way with both HTTP or FTP. I'm frustrated and confused. I've successfully installed FC1 using HTTP, FTP, and NFS on prior occasions. I don't understand why I can't seem to get it to work now for FC2. I have an NFS server on my local network that I've used to install FC1 and it has always worked in the past. However, since NFS requires an ISO image, NFS is not an option for a rawhide installation of RPMs. I have always used either HTTP of FTP on my local network to install "rawhide" development packages in the past. Is there something that I'm missing? Respectfully, Adam =) From smearp at mac.com Mon Mar 15 05:07:00 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:07:00 -0800 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> Message-ID: <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> Sandy Pond wrote: >On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 19:18 -0800, Sean Earp wrote: > > >>Hello All- >> >>With Evolution 1.5.3 (the latest version installed on FC2 Test 1), no >>HTTP Links (in an email) work for me. They do not open a browser, they >>do not generate an error message, they do not do anything at all. >>Email links work just fine. Could someone let me know if their copy of >>Evolution is experiencing the same problem and I'll throw it at >>Bugzilla. Thanks, >> >> > >Try installing epiphany; > >yum install epiphany > > > > Thanks Sandy- Installing epiphany did fix the problem, but I am now curious as to why Fedora requires a specific browser (just one of many) to open web URLs embedded in an email. Windoze and Mac OS X both open up WHATEVER browser is set to default, whether it be IE, Safari, Opera, Mozilla, or whatever the popular browser of the day is. From a user perspective (especially a somewhat new user), it is A Bad Thing to require that one specific browser (epiphany) be installed to click on links in an email (a very common user task). Is there anything that can be done to change this silly requirement? Am I missing anything? Any information/suggestions/flames/thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks, -Sean From michal at harddata.com Mon Mar 15 05:36:11 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:36:11 -0700 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <405539F4.9070604@mac.com>; from smearp@mac.com on Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 09:07:00PM -0800 References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> Message-ID: <20040314223611.A23243@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 09:07:00PM -0800, Sean Earp wrote: > > Installing epiphany did fix the problem, but I am now curious as to why > Fedora requires a specific browser (just one of many) to open web URLs > embedded in an email. Sounds like a bug. It should use 'htmlview'. That one is supposed to check what is available and you can modify a search order for your various browsers in /etc/htmlview.conf, system-wide, or in ~/.htmlviewrc for your own account. Or "user interface experts" were allowed to that and are making you happy by taking care that you will not get confused. Michal From tcallawa at redhat.com Mon Mar 15 05:44:52 2004 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom 'spot' Callaway) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:44:52 -0600 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> Message-ID: <1079329492.27721.9.camel@zorak> On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 21:07 -0800, Sean Earp wrote: > Is there anything that can be done to > change this silly requirement? Am I missing anything? Any > information/suggestions/flames/thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks, I've never had this problem, Evolution 1.5.* has always obeyed the browser preference I set with gnome-default-applications-properties (galeon, in my case). ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not to be published." -- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" From mwiktowy at gmx.net Mon Mar 15 06:00:29 2004 From: mwiktowy at gmx.net (Michael Wiktowy) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:00:29 -0500 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079330428.9460.27.camel@localhost> Rather than force packages into my system and risk package-dependency doom I wrote and simple, terrible little sh script to yum update one dependency-tree at a time to use when I run into problems. It is terrible in the following ways: - it does that initial header server check for *every* file that needs updating ... unnecessary yum repository load - it still tries to update files that it has already updated through previous dependencies ... unnecessary yum repository load - it doesn't make any effort at error logging/trapping ... potential for things to go horribly wrong and have no record of it. In saying that, it should auto-exclude dependency trees that are blocking "yum update" while still maintaining a sane rpm database ... but I make no guarantees. I would love to see this kind of functionality folded into the -t option of yum so that "yum -t update" will update those dependency-trees it *can* and skip things it can't find dependencies for. Here it is ... use at your own risk and I would invite anyone with more sh-ability than me (i.e. almost everyone) to improve on the terrors outlined above: Dump the following into a file named "partial_yum_update" #!/bin/sh for i in `yum list updates |cut -f 1 -d " " |grep -A 500 -e ---- |\ grep -v -e ----` ; do echo "Updating $i" yum -y update $i done then execute it with "sh partial_yum_update" Enjoy. /Mike From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 15 06:04:03 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:04:03 -0500 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <1079330428.9460.27.camel@localhost> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> <1079330428.9460.27.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1079330642.8655.89.camel@binkley> > In saying that, it should auto-exclude dependency trees that are > blocking "yum update" while still maintaining a sane rpm database ... > but I make no guarantees. > > I would love to see this kind of functionality folded into the -t option > of yum so that "yum -t update" will update those dependency-trees it > *can* and skip things it can't find dependencies for. > > Here it is ... use at your own risk and I would invite anyone with more > sh-ability than me (i.e. almost everyone) to improve on the terrors > outlined above: > So just to be sure I understand. You take the list of updateable pkgs, and you iterate over each one until you can't update anything completely anymore. Is that right? -sv From mwiktowy at gmx.net Mon Mar 15 06:29:27 2004 From: mwiktowy at gmx.net (Michael Wiktowy) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:29:27 -0500 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> > So just to be sure I understand. You take the list of updateable pkgs, > and you iterate over each one until you can't update anything completely > anymore. Is that right? > >-sv Correct. I couldn't figure out a way to make yum do that itself and at first glance the -t option looks like it was built for that purpose. Also, I couldn't figure out how to make yum stop "Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)" every single time it is run (to iterate through that list faster). I thought the -C option would but I doesn't. The script shouldn't install anything that you don't already have installed unless it is a new dependency from something you are updating. (Sorry for the broken topic threading ... replying from message digest) /Mike From terraformers at gmx.net Mon Mar 15 07:02:24 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:02:24 +0100 Subject: KDE menu-structure, configs and icons lost Message-ID: <200403150802.24722.terraformers@gmx.net> im pretty shure that the problems started for me with updating "redhat-menus" and "kdelibs" packages to the newest rawhide ones: redhat-menus-1.1-1 kdelibs-3.2.1-1.3 (kdebase-3.2.1-1) looking at the redhat-menus changelog it says: * Fri Mar 12 2004 Than Ngo 1.1-1 - Release 1.1, cleanup KDE menus, get rid of KDE stuffs which are now included in kde package * Thu Mar 11 2004 Seth Nickell - Release 1.0 which conforms to xdg menu spec 0.8 ...and kdelibs says: * Thu Mar 11 2004 Than Ngo 6:3.2.1-1.3 - get rid of application.menu, it's added in redhat-menus cd /etc/xdg/menus/ ; rpm -qf * shows the files in this dir belongs to redhat-menus, kdelibs and kdebase: redhat-menus-1.1-1 kdelibs-3.2.1-1.3 kdebase-3.2.1-1 kdebase-3.2.1-1 kdebase-3.2.1-1 kdebase-3.2.1-1 redhat-menus-1.1-1 redhat-menus-1.1-1 redhat-menus-1.1-1 redhat-menus-1.1-1 so i think it has to do with these three packages hope this helps lars ps. found some info about the current menu spec here http://freedesktop.org/Standards/menu-spec/menu-spec-0.8.html From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Mon Mar 15 07:14:31 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:14:31 -0500 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <1079329492.27721.9.camel@zorak> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> <1079329492.27721.9.camel@zorak> Message-ID: <1079334870.27547.1.camel@study> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 00:44, Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote: > On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 21:07 -0800, Sean Earp wrote: > > Is there anything that can be done to > > change this silly requirement? Am I missing anything? Any > > information/suggestions/flames/thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks, > > I've never had this problem, Evolution 1.5.* has always obeyed the > browser preference I set with gnome-default-applications-properties > (galeon, in my case). > Default is epiphany ... but isn't installed by default :) From hes at xinit.se Mon Mar 15 08:25:36 2004 From: hes at xinit.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Hans_Eric_Sandstr=F6m?=) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:25:36 +0100 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! References: <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk><003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> <200403141835.29417.joao@wipmail.com.br> Message-ID: <007501c40a67$18951830$030016ac@zekecpq> On Sunday March 14, 2004 10:35 PM, "Jo?o" wrote: -SNIP- > Your doc-package is a good idea, but I guess not so much people would like it > > Then all what you put in has its dependencies and are automaticall installed. > So lets say you want KDE, then all needed packages are installed. Nothing > more nothing less > > For me that is a very clever idea - and abstract. > > But I do not know if this is comparable with LINUX philosophy because most > people use it as a workstation. Hopefully they will use the workstation install option (not minimal) which would include the -docs packages. But thinking about it some more.. one could probably extend on the script I use to keep all my servers in sync. Basically I have two types of servers normal and devel servers. I use the included script to switch between the two configurations. The script is not my suggested solution, it's just something I've been using for a while. The script functionality (Install configurations) should probably go inte the meta package managers (apt/yum/up2date) in some way, maybe: # apt-get configure /Hans Eric -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PostInstall.sh Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4913 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hes at xinit.se Mon Mar 15 08:54:05 2004 From: hes at xinit.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Hans_Eric_Sandstr=F6m?=) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:54:05 +0100 Subject: [SPAM] Re: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! References: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk><003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> <4054DDCA.40903@gmx.de> Message-ID: <00ae01c40a6b$126f9ee0$030016ac@zekecpq> On Sunday, March 14, 2004 11:33 PM, shrek-m at gmx.de, wrote: > why do you need for this few packages apt ? > rpm -Fvh ftp|http://blabla should be more than enough. The above does'nt resolve dependencies and also automatically give me the latest version like: # apt-get dist-upgrade /Hans Eric From antti at victoria.fi Mon Mar 15 08:58:50 2004 From: antti at victoria.fi (Antti) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:58:50 +0200 Subject: Local Network Installation via HTTP or FTP Fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079341129.1502.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 04:05, Adam Scarcella wrote: > I have been desperately trying to perform a "clean-install" of FC2 since > it's release. > > I downloaded FC2-test1 using the torrent file FC2-test1-binary-i386.torrent > > MD5SUM's were correct and the images burned without a problem, but for some > strange reason, my IBM ThinkPad A30 will not boot properly from the burned > ISO images. I even burned "boot.iso" alone and it failed exactly the same > way, "installation unexpectedly quit" > > So instead I downloaded the entire /development directory from: > > http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/ > > And now I'm trying to install "rawhide" using a local server. Once again I > burned "boot.iso" from the downloaded /development directory and began the > installation as usual. > > I've now tried HTTP and FTP without success. It just dies at the "retrieving > base/stage2.img" screen. I realize that "stage2.img" is roughly 66MB but I'm > on a local network so it should've only taken a few minutes. I let it go all > night and it was still on the same screen in the morning. It dies the same > way with both HTTP or FTP. I'm frustrated and confused. > > I've successfully installed FC1 using HTTP, FTP, and NFS on prior occasions. > I don't understand why I can't seem to get it to work now for FC2. > > I have an NFS server on my local network that I've used to install FC1 and > it has always worked in the past. However, since NFS requires an ISO image, > NFS is not an option for a rawhide installation of RPMs. > > I have always used either HTTP of FTP on my local network to install > "rawhide" development packages in the past. Is there something that I'm > missing? > > Respectfully, > > Adam =) > > AFAIK there's no bootdisk.img nor drvnet.img for FC2t1. Where did you find a floppy boot image? -- -a From lamont at gurulabs.com Mon Mar 15 10:35:56 2004 From: lamont at gurulabs.com (Lamont R. Peterson) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 03:35:56 -0700 Subject: Some questions about Fedora Cora 2 test1 In-Reply-To: <1079277671.2202.9.camel@ip124.cab13.ktln.starman.ee> References: <1079277671.2202.9.camel@ip124.cab13.ktln.starman.ee> Message-ID: <1079346956.3286.10.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 08:21, Veiko Sinivee wrote: > 3) I mounted USB stick with manual commands. If I resatrt computer with > stick inserted the system recongnizes it. It always uses sda1 (still > ide-scsi !) for it, but actually it should use sda4 (partitition 4 is > used). If I correct it manually then the system constantly resets it to > sda1 which is wrong. I removed the atribute "kudzu" from /etc/fstab > entry to stop it being "too smart". This works but I think there's got > to be a better way? As a good reply already exists for your first two questions, I will confine my efforts to the third. USB storage devices have nothing to do with ide-scsi. USB hard drives, key-chain drives or any other USB based storage device will show up as a SCSI device on the system. I use a USB keychain drive with three partitions on it; a small VFAT for "portability" when I absolutely need it (has come in handy on occasion), a large ext3 for most storage and a small encrypted partition for storing really sensitive stuff (like keys). This works just great and kudzu never bothers me about it. I add the /etc/fstab entries myself when I set up my machines. Good luck. -- Lamont Peterson Senior Instructor Guru Labs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've also tried disabling all peripherals (serial/parallel/USB/diskette) in BIOS with same results. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmorda at fsa.univ-artois.fr Mon Mar 15 13:34:25 2004 From: jmorda at fsa.univ-artois.fr (Morda Jean-Jacques) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:34:25 +0100 Subject: Installation shutdown my PC ! In-Reply-To: <1DF2A2FA648E0F4CBBB67978C501003904478DA2@nyhqex041.ademconet.com> References: <1DF2A2FA648E0F4CBBB67978C501003904478DA2@nyhqex041.ademconet.com> Message-ID: <200403151434.25952.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> Hello... I have a shuttle SB62G2 with a SAPHIRE RADEON 9800 pro in it... in graphical mode (X), at the vrey beginning of installation in grpahical mode, my pc is freezing... if i install in text mode, all is ok, and at the restart, when X starts, my mouse is moving during 4 or 5 seconds and the it freeze... i'll have to shutdown my pc. what on hell ??? ... :'-( (same bug on FC1 with in bonus POWER DOWN in the installation process...) Thanks. From smearp at mac.com Mon Mar 15 13:44:52 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 05:44:52 -0800 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <1079334870.27547.1.camel@study> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> <1079329492.27721.9.camel@zorak> <1079334870.27547.1.camel@study> Message-ID: <4055B354.5050807@mac.com> Sandy Pond wrote: >On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 00:44, Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote: > > >>On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 21:07 -0800, Sean Earp wrote: >> >> >>>Is there anything that can be done to >>>change this silly requirement? Am I missing anything? Any >>>information/suggestions/flames/thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks, >>> >>> >>I've never had this problem, Evolution 1.5.* has always obeyed the >>browser preference I set with gnome-default-applications-properties >>(galeon, in my case). >> >> Well, Tom was absolutely correct. Changing my default application allowed me to click on a link and have it open up in Firefox. Is there a KDE equivelent to gnome-default-application-properties? It works fine when I run it from the command line, but as a newbie, I would expect to be able to click on the "System Settings" menu and find an app to change my default applications. As far as I can see, there is none. >>Default is epiphany ... but isn't installed by default :) >> >> Any reason I shouldn't file the above as a bug? The default web browser should be the one installed by default, not one that you need to add later or as part of a custom install... Thanks for the help everyone! -Sean :) From kohli at webdeko.com Mon Mar 15 14:41:04 2004 From: kohli at webdeko.com (Markus Kohli) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:41:04 +0100 Subject: Installation shutdown my PC ! Message-ID: <200403151541.04697.kohli@webdeko.com> On Monday 15 March 2004 14.34, Morda Jean-Jacques wrote: > I have a shuttle SB62G2 with a SAPHIRE RADEON 9800 pro in it... This is a known bug. The Radeon 9800 (Pro) isn't really supported yet. I had to edit my XF86config manually, and enter "ChipID 0x4e46" in the devices section for the graphics-card. This tells X to assume a Radeon 9700, which actually is supported. No problems since then. HTH Markus -- If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one to see, do the other trees make fun of it? From tjb at unh.edu Mon Mar 15 14:42:14 2004 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:42:14 -0500 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 01:29, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > > So just to be sure I understand. You take the list of updateable pkgs, > > and you iterate over each one until you can't update anything completely > > anymore. Is that right? > > > >-sv > > Correct. > > I couldn't figure out a way to make yum do that itself and at first > glance the -t option looks like it was built for that purpose. > > Also, I couldn't figure out how to make yum stop > "Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)" > every single time it is run (to iterate through that list faster). > I thought the -C option would but I doesn't. > > The script shouldn't install anything that you don't already have installed > unless it is a new dependency from something you are updating. > > (Sorry for the broken topic threading ... replying from message digest) > > /Mike The way my rawhide mirror works (mirror of a mirror), it would be nice if yum had a --update-what-you-can option. After a normal pass, it would just --exclude anything it reports as not upgradeable due to dependency issues and tries again until it succeeds. I don't know python but I may try to do a wrapper in perl... tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 15 14:46:42 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:46:42 -0500 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1079362001.8655.97.camel@binkley> > The way my rawhide mirror works (mirror of a mirror), it would be nice > if yum had a --update-what-you-can option. After a normal pass, it would > just --exclude anything it reports as not upgradeable due to dependency > issues and tries again until it succeeds. I don't know python but I may > try to do a wrapper in perl... Ok, 1. wrapping python programs in perl is simply DIRTY. Let's not do that. 2. it's funny that the only reason people want this feature in yum is b/c rawhide is so frequently dependency-incomplete. Kinda an odd direction to follow for writing features. -sv From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Mon Mar 15 15:27:49 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:27:49 -0600 Subject: Installation shutdown my PC ! References: <1DF2A2FA648E0F4CBBB67978C501003904478DA2@nyhqex041.ademconet.com> <200403151434.25952.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> Message-ID: <005701c40aa2$16542710$72b9fc80@rwa1> If you look at you /etc/X11/XF86Config file, you will probably see that it is using the radeon graphic driver. Unfortunately the driver doesn't work with the 9800 cards; change it from "radeon" to "vesa" and X will work. vesa is the generic video card driver; the big down-side is that you won't have 3D-acceleration. So far I don't know of any drivers that install properly on FC2T1 to give you 3D-acceleration, so for now you'll have to do without (but this only affects video games). While you're looking at that XF86Config file, make sure that all device references in the mouse sections point to /dev/input/mice, not /dev/psaux (this will also cause the X server to crash). Richard Ayer III From ksnider at flarn.com Mon Mar 15 15:56:12 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:56:12 -0500 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! In-Reply-To: <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> References: <200403132244.12541.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <200403141538.17853.gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk> <003b01c40a08$f30f7870$030016ac@zekecpq> Message-ID: <4055D21C.40908@flarn.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hans Eric Sandstr?m wrote: | These are the packages I removed after doing a minimal install: | | # rpm -e apmd aspell aspell-en attr autofs comps dump gnupg hotplug | isdn4k-utils jfsutils kudzu lftp libwvstreams lrzsz minicom nano parted | pcmcia-cs rdate system-config-mouse system-config-network-tui setserial | sendmail specspo star statserial up2date usbutils wireless-tools wget wvdial | yp-tools ypbind yum irda-utils | | I could argue for keeping yum/up2date but I really would like to have apt-rpm | instead. One of the package managers (up2date/you or apt-get) is needed to | make it easy to add/update packages later. I believe you could do this fairly easily using Kickstart and just minusing out the packages you don't want. We do this in-house for RHEL to geta "minimal" server install, it should be trivial to do for FC as well. - -- Ken Snider -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAVdIcJz/2kL0fCRgRAlmdAKCb7WZuVbPsDxqZ4mOovKFSWgra1wCeMtAp 8udYCqsgu+PDwrt6cgRPZ08= =GNJS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tjb at unh.edu Mon Mar 15 15:58:04 2004 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:58:04 -0500 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <1079362001.8655.97.camel@binkley> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1079362001.8655.97.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1079366284.30605.16.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 09:46, seth vidal wrote: > > The way my rawhide mirror works (mirror of a mirror), it would be nice > > if yum had a --update-what-you-can option. After a normal pass, it would > > just --exclude anything it reports as not upgradeable due to dependency > > issues and tries again until it succeeds. I don't know python but I may > > try to do a wrapper in perl... > > Ok, > 1. wrapping python programs in perl is simply DIRTY. Let's not do > that. > 2. it's funny that the only reason people want this feature in yum is > b/c rawhide is so frequently dependency-incomplete. Kinda an odd > direction to follow for writing features. > > -sv 1 - I (mostly) said that because I knew it would gross you out! 2 - Considering the number of times I run yum during a beta period and how often rawhide is broken/incompletely mirrored, it would be a very worthwhile feature IMHO... and why I will still probably do #1 for my personal use unless you have other plans :-) tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Mon Mar 15 16:48:40 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:48:40 -0600 Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2B9@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> I agree I have wanted a bare minimum install for years. But I encountered one problem several times that is really irritating: dependencies on X. Several times when I had a text only install, I tried to install some package (that really doesn't require X), some package it needs has a dependency on X. For example just last week, I wanted to recompile the kernel (on a text only machine). I can't remember which package it was now that failed because there was no X. This is a major pain. -Scott -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Hans Eric Sandstr?m Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 2:12 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Call for a real Minimal install, remove the bloat! These are the packages I removed after doing a minimal install: # rpm -e apmd aspell aspell-en attr autofs comps dump gnupg hotplug isdn4k-utils jfsutils kudzu lftp libwvstreams lrzsz minicom nano parted pcmcia-cs rdate system-config-mouse system-config-network-tui setserial sendmail specspo star statserial up2date usbutils wireless-tools wget wvdial yp-tools ypbind yum irda-utils I could argue for keeping yum/up2date but I really would like to have apt-rpm instead. One of the package managers (up2date/you or apt-get) is needed to make it easy to add/update packages later. I've been a RedHat user since RedHat 4 or something and vith every new version more bloat gets added. I remember the days when one could install SLS from a couple of diskettes. Lets try to break this trend with Fedora. Here are my suggestions: 1. Create a real Minimal Install option in the Text Based Installation. 2. Remove the above packages and probably a bunch more. A minimal install should be..., right minimal! 3. Break out /usr/share/doc from the packages and make xxx-docs packages of them. Take a look in /usr/share doc: # du -s * | sort -nr | head -4 4184 bash-2.05b 2752 pam-0.77 2560 gawk-3.1.3 1496 glibc-common-2.3.3 Just having a bash-docs package saves 4Mb from a minimal install. Another option would be to install with rpm --excludedocs if minimal install is choosen. But I think I want to keep the man pages hmmm... There are probably lots of other things to do, but we need to start somewhere. Hans Eric Sandstr?m, MailCore AB -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From pmatilai at welho.com Mon Mar 15 17:22:02 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:22:02 +0200 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <1079362001.8655.97.camel@binkley> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1079362001.8655.97.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1079371322.18766.17.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 16:46, seth vidal wrote: > > The way my rawhide mirror works (mirror of a mirror), it would be nice > > if yum had a --update-what-you-can option. After a normal pass, it would > > just --exclude anything it reports as not upgradeable due to dependency > > issues and tries again until it succeeds. I don't know python but I may > > try to do a wrapper in perl... > > Ok, > 1. wrapping python programs in perl is simply DIRTY. Let's not do > that. > 2. it's funny that the only reason people want this feature in yum is > b/c rawhide is so frequently dependency-incomplete. Kinda an odd > direction to follow for writing features. But then.. if you can't use the depsolvers to keep up with rawhide, back to rpm -Fvh Apt has --fix-missing which attempts to fix the upgrade-set after downloading what's available and dropping any unsatisfied dependencies from the upgrade set. Not that I really know but I suspect that the existence of that option has everything to do with Debian unstable repository, not unlike rawhide in nature... - Panu - From Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com Mon Mar 15 17:10:02 2004 From: Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com (Tommy McNeely) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:10:02 -0700 Subject: window-list-es.omf:12 parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! Message-ID: Hi, I tried to resolve my OpenSSL and balsa problems by running the commands below, and now I have problems with the Spanish gnome-window-list stuff.. I don't use it.. but its curious enough.. and it has happened on two machines now. Any tips? [root at bottle up2date]# rpm -Uvh http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/openssl-0.9.7a-32.1.i386.rpm http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/openssl-devel-0.9.7a-32.1.i386.rpm /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory Retrieving http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/openssl-0.9.7a-32.1.i386.rpm Retrieving http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/openssl-devel-0.9.7a-32.1.i386.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:openssl ########################################### [ 50%] 2:openssl-devel ########################################### [100%] [root at bottle up2date]# rpm -e balsa /usr/share/omf/gnome-panel/window-list-es.omf:12: parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! Manual de la miniaplicaic?n Lista de ventanas V2.6 ^ /usr/share/omf/gnome-panel/window-list-es.omf:12: error: Bytes: 0xF3 0x6E 0x20 0x4C Manual de la miniaplicaic?n Lista de ventanas V2.6 ^ OMF file does not exist, is not readable, or is not well-formed XML: /usr/share/omf/gnome-panel/window-list-es.omf Unable to register /usr/share/omf/gnome-panel/window-list-es.omf The actions are successful, but now there are problems with that file.. and I had to paste that error into OOo before I could paste it into PAN or Text Editor.. thats sortof strange too :) From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 15 17:32:50 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:32:50 -0500 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <1079371322.18766.17.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1079362001.8655.97.camel@binkley> <1079371322.18766.17.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <1079371969.8655.104.camel@binkley> > But then.. if you can't use the depsolvers to keep up with rawhide, back > to rpm -Fvh > I didn't say it was out I just said it's a funny direction for things to follow. You'd think if so many people were going to follow rawhide then so many people would spend more time making it a touch more consistent before it gets pushed. running a check for internal dependency consistency across the whole rawhide tree isn't that hard. -sv From alan at redhat.com Mon Mar 15 17:36:29 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:36:29 -0500 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <1079334870.27547.1.camel@study> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> <1079329492.27721.9.camel@zorak> <1079334870.27547.1.camel@study> Message-ID: <20040315173629.GA32035@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 02:14:31AM -0500, Sandy Pond wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 00:44, Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote: > > browser preference I set with gnome-default-applications-properties > > (galeon, in my case). > > > > Default is epiphany ... but isn't installed by default :) That would be one for bugzilla From markmc at redhat.com Mon Mar 15 17:39:56 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:39:56 +0000 Subject: window-list-es.omf:12 parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079372396.24900.84.camel@laptop> Hi, On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 17:10, Tommy McNeely wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to resolve my OpenSSL and balsa problems by running the commands > below, and now I have problems with the Spanish gnome-window-list stuff.. > I don't use it.. but its curious enough.. and it has happened on two > machines now. > > Any tips? Update gnome-panel. Thanks, Mark. From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 15 18:20:39 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:20:39 +0100 Subject: window-list-es.omf:12 parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! In-Reply-To: <1079372396.24900.84.camel@laptop> References: <1079372396.24900.84.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <1079374839.4757.369.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Mark, > Update gnome-panel. I believe this issue has not yet been solved for gnome-panel-2.5.3. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116475 (this is for FC 2 test 1). It's a duplicate of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=114498 , but that bug is for FC 1 for which it was probably fixed with the update to gnome-panel-2.4.2-3. But if you have a look at http://www.ottolander.nl/gnome-panel/ you can see that that fix still has to be propagated to 2.5.3. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 15 18:24:32 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:24:32 +0100 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <20040315173629.GA32035@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> <1079329492.27721.9.camel@zorak> <1079334870.27547.1.camel@study> <20040315173629.GA32035@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079375072.4757.376.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Alan, > hat would be one for bugzilla Not really, as I think evolution has been reverted to 1.4.5 for FC 2 test 1. It will be upgraded to 1.4.6 soon. Correct me if I am wrong. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From markmc at redhat.com Mon Mar 15 18:30:55 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:30:55 +0000 Subject: window-list-es.omf:12 parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! In-Reply-To: <1079374839.4757.369.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1079372396.24900.84.camel@laptop> <1079374839.4757.369.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079375454.24900.90.camel@laptop> Hi, On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 18:20, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hello Mark, > > > Update gnome-panel. > > I believe this issue has not yet been solved for gnome-panel-2.5.3. See > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116475 (this is for > FC 2 test 1). It's a duplicate of > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=114498 , but that > bug is for FC 1 for which it was probably fixed with the update to > gnome-panel-2.4.2-3. But if you have a look at > http://www.ottolander.nl/gnome-panel/ you can see that that fix still > has to be propagated to 2.5.3. No, its not fixed in 2.5.3. It was fixed in 2.5.4 - 2.5.90-1 would have been the first FC2 development package with the fix. Good Luck, Mark. From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 15 18:32:05 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:32:05 +0100 Subject: window-list-es.omf:12 parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079375525.4757.387.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Tommy, > I tried to resolve my OpenSSL and balsa problems by running the commands > below, and now I have problems with the Spanish gnome-window-list stuff.. > I don't use it.. but its curious enough.. and it has happened on two > machines now. What version of gnome-panel are you running? If you are running FC2 test1 with gnome-panel-2.5.3.1-2 please upgrade to gnome-panel-2.5.92-1 which can be found under "development". Could you please report back if that upgrade indeed fixes this problem? TIA. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From rhlist at itns.co.za Mon Mar 15 18:34:08 2004 From: rhlist at itns.co.za (Greg Wildman) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:34:08 +0200 Subject: Rsync + keeping local dir's In-Reply-To: <1079296210.1740.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1079296210.1740.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <4055F720.6060506@itns.co.za> Mike Chambers said the following on 14/03/2004 22:30: > Is there an option or a way to use rsync to mirror a remote directory, > and include my own subdir's without them being removed (local dir only)? > > As in, I mirror rawhide dir and I also want to make that dir yumable and > keep it that way instead of running yum-arch after the mirror runs. I put the yum headers folder outside of the rawhide tree. Then a symbolic link to the rawhide RPMS and A for Away.. -- Greg From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 15 18:36:31 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:36:31 +0100 Subject: window-list-es.omf:12 parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! In-Reply-To: <1079375454.24900.90.camel@laptop> References: <1079372396.24900.84.camel@laptop> <1079374839.4757.369.camel@athlon.localdomain> <1079375454.24900.90.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <1079375791.4757.397.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Mark, > No, its not fixed in 2.5.3. It was fixed in 2.5.4 - 2.5.90-1 would have > been the first FC2 development package with the fix. I didn't notice you also did an upgrade in RawHide ("development"). Maybe bug 116475 is more appropriately closed "rawhide" and "Fixed In" 2.5.90-1. I am a bit reluctant to do that, as it requires reopening again before it can be closed correctly. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From mwiktowy at gmx.net Mon Mar 15 18:43:55 2004 From: mwiktowy at gmx.net (Michael Wiktowy) Date: 15 Mar 2004 13:43:55 -0500 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages Message-ID: <1079376235.9939.47.camel@WiktowyM.Space.gc.ca> > I didn't say it was out I just said it's a funny direction for things >to follow. You'd think if so many people were going to follow rawhide > then so many people would spend more time making it a touch more > consistent before it gets pushed. > > running a check for internal dependency consistency across the whole > rawhide tree isn't that hard. > > -sv None (or at least very few) of my consistency problems have been due to internal inconsistencies of the rawhide repositories. Most of them seem to be due to files being shuffled off into different packages and others being obsoleted (yet still blocking the formation of the new dependencies since I have the old ones still installed). Two examples being: - /bin/kill being shuffled from one package to another - nautilus-media being gobbled up by gnome-media (at least I think that is what happened) There doesn't seem to be a automagic way of handling this type of inconsistency and it would be difficult to the repository to check for it. In all cases, the rawhide repository was self-consistent. I thought that there was some rpm spec notation that indicates that one package superceeds another of a different name but I am not entirely sure. That little sh for-loop wrapper around yum doesn't solve these inconsistencies but at least it isolates them. It just does it terribly inefficiently and brute-force. There are two ways to approach this: 1) Incorporate that "fall-back" functionality into yum to do a update-what-you-can and let broken packages be. 2) Allow a little more fine tuning of yum functionality via command-line options to force it into different modes to allow it to be wrapped in this fashion easily. I would specifically suggest that users should be able to switch off the initial header gathering from the servers and instead rely on what was cached previously. I really like yum and I think that it is a nice simple middle ground between rpm and apt functionality. /Mike From hellcat at hispeed.ch Mon Mar 15 18:50:16 2004 From: hellcat at hispeed.ch (RJ) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:50:16 +0100 Subject: Linux "bluescreen" Message-ID: <4055FAE8.3070601@hispeed.ch> Hi I installed fedora core 1 on my second machine but i had a very strange effect. 1. Installed FC1 from CD's 2. Updated to latest released patches for FC1 3. Upgraded to FC2 Test 1 using yum upgrade When i try to start with the latest kernel everything seems to work fine. kudzu detects some new hardware and enters the configuration screen. After a second i get a bluescreen with strange characters and my pc doesn't respond to any key presses. Using interactive startup and not running kudzu it seems to run fine. So i change the config option safe=yes in the kudzu config. Now i get a kernel panic instead. Can't recall what exactly it is but i think something about spin_lock. I guess it is hardware the new kernel initializes and kudzu doesn't know how it can probe it correctly. I could try to install FC2 Test1 directly from the isos and do an update and see if it is some hardware that is causing me trouble or the upgrade process. RJ From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 15 19:08:27 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:08:27 +0100 Subject: Linux "bluescreen" In-Reply-To: <4055FAE8.3070601@hispeed.ch> References: <4055FAE8.3070601@hispeed.ch> Message-ID: <1079377707.4757.431.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi RJ, > 1. Installed FC1 from CD's > 2. Updated to latest released patches for FC1 > 3. Upgraded to FC2 Test 1 using yum upgrade > > When i try to start with the latest kernel everything seems to work fine. > kudzu detects some new hardware and enters the configuration screen. > After a second i get a bluescreen with strange characters and my pc doesn't > respond to any key presses. You should definitely try to also apply all FC2 test1 updates (either via the appropriate yum channel, or by downloading from the "development" branch) before you continue analyzing your issue. It is quite likely it has already been fixed with the FC2 test1 updates. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 15 19:10:54 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:10:54 +0100 Subject: Rsync + keeping local dir's In-Reply-To: <1079296210.1740.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1079296210.1740.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1079377854.4757.438.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Mike, > Is there an option or a way to use rsync to mirror a remote directory, > and include my own subdir's without them being removed (local dir only)? Rsync by default will keep local files that are not on the remote machine. They will only get deleted when you specify the --delete option. So you don't have to do anything to achieve this behaviour. By the way, this is more of a fedora question... Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From hellcat at hispeed.ch Mon Mar 15 20:06:32 2004 From: hellcat at hispeed.ch (RJ) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:06:32 +0100 Subject: Linux "bluescreen" In-Reply-To: <1079377707.4757.431.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <4055FAE8.3070601@hispeed.ch> <1079377707.4757.431.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <40560CC8.3060700@hispeed.ch> Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hi RJ, > > >>1. Installed FC1 from CD's >>2. Updated to latest released patches for FC1 >>3. Upgraded to FC2 Test 1 using yum upgrade >> >>When i try to start with the latest kernel everything seems to work fine. >>kudzu detects some new hardware and enters the configuration screen. >>After a second i get a bluescreen with strange characters and my pc doesn't >>respond to any key presses. > > > You should definitely try to also apply all FC2 test1 updates (either > via the appropriate yum channel, or by downloading from the > "development" branch) before you continue analyzing your issue. It is > quite likely it has already been fixed with the FC2 test1 updates. > > Leonard. > Oh. I forgot to mention that. Yes, I did an yum update after i upgraded and rebooted to the new kernel without executing kudzu. I recompiled the kernel (2.6.3-2.1.253) with the 4K STACKS option disabled so I can use the NVIDIA drivers without crashing X. Rebooted and tried kudzu again with my custom kernel. To my surprise it worked. Kudzu runs and detects a new keyboard. A bit strange but it seems to work now. RJ From alan at redhat.com Mon Mar 15 20:26:57 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:26:57 -0500 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <1079375072.4757.376.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> <1079329492.27721.9.camel@zorak> <1079334870.27547.1.camel@study> <20040315173629.GA32035@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1079375072.4757.376.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040315202657.GA5549@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 07:24:32PM +0100, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hello Alan, > > > hat would be one for bugzilla > > Not really, as I think evolution has been reverted to 1.4.5 for FC 2 > test 1. It will be upgraded to 1.4.6 soon. Correct me if I am wrong. Ah did I misunderstand you - I thought this was also true of 1.4.5/6 from your earlier email. From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 15 20:52:42 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:52:42 +0100 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <20040315202657.GA5549@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> <1079329492.27721.9.camel@zorak> <1079334870.27547.1.camel@study> <20040315173629.GA32035@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1079375072.4757.376.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040315202657.GA5549@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079383961.6159.10.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Alan, > Ah did I misunderstand you - I guess so. It can be somewhat confusing to be discussing two different development branches on the same list (see also the window-list-es.omf thread, although that is about the same issue in two branches of gnome-panel). (Which reminds me that to avoid such confusion *always* mentioning version numbers when submitting bug reports in bugzilla is good practice :) .) > I thought this was also true of 1.4.5/6 from your earlier email. Nope. I am having different issues with 1.4.5-7 on FC 1. Crash when editing the To: field. And on opening the Tools->Settings menu. But the latter I only noticed just now. And it appears to be the same issue, something with e_table_sorter_new(). No problems with opening links in Firefox from 1.4.5-7 though. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it Mon Mar 15 21:44:30 2004 From: alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it (Alessandro Torrisi) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:44:30 +0100 Subject: Installation on laptop Packard Bell M3 Athlon x86_64 (3000 Mhz) has a video problem Message-ID: <404709D8002AD5CE@eta.mail.fw> (added by postmaster@eta.fastwebnet.it) Hi! I tried to install Fedora Core x86 but I can't see video output on LCD screen. If I connect a standard CRT monitor on the second output I can see the output. My LCD screen is completely black !!! This is the hardware: - AMD 64 (3000 MHz) - ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 - 1 DVD - Screen LCD 1280x800 Can you help me ? Please.I WANT FEDORA ON MY PC !!! NOT ONLY ON MY SERVERS !!! Alex. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at netlyncs.com Mon Mar 15 22:31:40 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:31:40 -0600 Subject: Rsync + keeping local dir's In-Reply-To: <1079377854.4757.438.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1079296210.1740.2.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <1079377854.4757.438.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079389900.4264.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 13:10, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > By the way, this is more of a fedora question... And since this system is a Fedora Core 2 Test 1, it's a fedora-beta question :) -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Mon Mar 15 23:43:22 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:43:22 -0600 Subject: Pump on FC2T1? (SE Linux breaks UDP checksum?) Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2BE@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> I have tracked this down further and discovered that it is the SE Linux stuff that is messing up pump. I have found a newer version of pump now and I'm going to try it. However, I have to say that the way it fails is not intuitive to me. When pump (dhcp client) sends out the discover packet (with a SE Linux enabled kernel), the packet actually goes out, it just fails because the UDP checksum is bad. This is not what I would expect out of SE Linux. I would have thought that it would have returned some no-priviledge error to the program (pump) indicating that it failed. Instead to just send out a broken packet seems pretty weird. -Scott -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:12 PM To: 'fedora-test-list at redhat.com' Subject: Pump on FC2T1? I have been trying to use pump (dhcp client) on FC2T1 and can't seem to get it to work. I have tried it on FC1 and FC1 with a 2.6 Kernel and it seems to work fine on them. When I'm running pump on FC2T1 I get several messages from the dhcpd server that "5 bad udp checksums in 5 packets". I am going to keep digging into it, but I wanted to ask if there is something that is a known problem that I'm unaware of? Any pointers would be welcome. Thanks -Scott -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Tue Mar 16 00:40:35 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:40:35 -0300 Subject: Local Network Installation via HTTP or FTP Fails In-Reply-To: <1079341129.1502.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079341129.1502.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40564D03.9020609@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Antti wrote: >AFAIK there's no bootdisk.img nor drvnet.img for FC2t1. Where did you >find a floppy boot image? > He didnt.. here's what he said he did: >On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 04:05, Adam Scarcella wrote: > > >And now I'm trying to install "rawhide" using a local server. Once again I >burned "boot.iso" from the downloaded /development directory and began the >installation as usual. > > I'm gonna try to install using HTTP here , as I need to install a client to test some ldap stuff... I'll tell you as soon as i finish if I managed to make it work via http. -- Pedro Macedo From adamo97 at comcast.net Tue Mar 16 00:52:18 2004 From: adamo97 at comcast.net (Adam Scarcella) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:52:18 -0500 Subject: Local Network Installation via HTTP or FTP Fails In-Reply-To: <20040315164916.801CC73483@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: >> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 04:05, Adam Scarcella wrote: >> I have been desperately trying to perform a "clean-install" of FC2 since >> it's release. >> >> I downloaded FC2-test1 using the torrent file FC2-test1-binary-i386.torrent >> >> MD5SUM's were correct and the images burned without a problem, but for some >> strange reason, my IBM ThinkPad A30 will not boot properly from the burned >> ISO images. I even burned "boot.iso" alone and it failed exactly the same >> way, "installation unexpectedly quit" >> >> So instead I downloaded the entire /development directory from: >> >> http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/ >> >> And now I'm trying to install "rawhide" using a local server. Once again I >> burned "boot.iso" from the downloaded /development directory and began the >> installation as usual. >> >> I've now tried HTTP and FTP without success. It just dies at the "retrieving >> base/stage2.img" screen. I realize that "stage2.img" is roughly 66MB but I'm >> on a local network so it should've only taken a few minutes. I let it go all >> night and it was still on the same screen in the morning. It dies the same >> way with both HTTP or FTP. I'm frustrated and confused. >> >> I've successfully installed FC1 using HTTP, FTP, and NFS on prior occasions. >> I don't understand why I can't seem to get it to work now for FC2. >> >> I have an NFS server on my local network that I've used to install FC1 and >> it has always worked in the past. However, since NFS requires an ISO image, >> NFS is not an option for a rawhide installation of RPMs. >> >> I have always used either HTTP of FTP on my local network to install >> "rawhide" development packages in the past. Is there something that I'm >> missing? >> >> Respectfully, >> >> Adam =) >> >> > > AFAIK there's no bootdisk.img nor drvnet.img for FC2t1. Where did you > find a floppy boot image? > > -- > -a Antti, I used the /development/images/boot.iso image. It's about 4.2 MB so it can't fit on a floppy disk. I burned it to CD which is wasteful of a 700 MB CD-R but if successful, my efforts wouldn't be in vein. Gene C. was kind enough to reply directly to me. He corrected my previous post as follows. > On Sunday 14 March 2004 19:17, Adam Scarcella wrote: > I have an NFS server on my local network that I use to install FedoraCore 1 > and it has always worked in the past. However, since NFS requires an ISO > image, NFS is not an option for a rawhide installation. Not true. While you can only do an install with ISO images for a harddisk install, an NFS install will take either a set of ISO images in the directory you point to OR the full directory tree you get by copying all of the individual files from the ISO images ... this copying is the same thing as the directory tree pointed to by development/i386 (or development/x86_64). Rather than everything in development/i386/*, you only need development/i386/Fedora/* plus to burn a cdrom with the development/i386/images/boot.iso file. Right now the files in the development tree have been a bit screwed up and I have not had good luck in getting something which will install. Therefore, I am spending my time elsewhere and waiting for the test2 ISO images. However, if the schedule slips more I may give it another try. Most of the individual packages in the development tree are just fine. However, the integration of real SElinux into FC2 is really hard and is taking more time than the developers originally estimated. I believe it will be worth the wait but it currently is causing some bumps in the development process. -- Gene From tmolina at cablespeed.com Tue Mar 16 02:29:21 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:29:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: up2date is confusing me Message-ID: I launched the RedHat Alert Notification Tool, which said I had an available update for switchdesk. It said I had switchdesk-3.9.8-18 and switchdesk-4.0.1-1.1 was available. I then click on the button to launch up2date which says your system is fully updated, no new packages are needed. wtfo?? The two statements seem contradictory. From pwatkins at decssi.com Tue Mar 16 03:25:45 2004 From: pwatkins at decssi.com (Paul Watkins) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:25:45 -0800 Subject: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) In-Reply-To: References: <4053C07C.3030607@codenitro.com> <40540CE7.6010806@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1079407515.24215.1.camel@68-233-232-156.stmnca.adelphia.net> Two questions: 1. Where did you get glibc-2.3.4-16 -- I only see glibc-2.3.3-16 on Rawdide 2. How do you install glibc manually -- I get the "need GLIBC 2.3.4" error when trying to use rpm Thanks Paul On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 15:31 -0500, alton bailey wrote: > Thanks for the info regarding glibc-2.3.4-16 package for a non working > up2date, it works > alton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "djh" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > Sent: 03/14/2004 2:42 AM > Subject: Re: yum and up2date unexpectedly quit (librpmio issue, I think) > > > > Jon wrote: > > > > > ... > > > I tried updating from yum, and it comes out with the same output > > > somewhat: > > > > > > [jon at localhost jon]$ yum > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 22, in ? > > > import yummain > > > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 22, in ? > > > import clientStuff > > > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 18, in ? > > > import rpm > > > ImportError: /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so: symbol regexec, version > > > GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference > > > > Manually upgrading glibc should fix that. > > > > David. > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 16 05:27:30 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:27:30 -0800 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <20040316052730.GC19722@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 09:42:14AM -0500, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 01:29, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > > > So just to be sure I understand. You take the list of updateable pkgs, > > > and you iterate over each one until you can't update anything completely > > > anymore. Is that right? > > > > > > > Also, I couldn't figure out how to make yum stop > > "Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)" > > every single time it is run (to iterate through that list faster). .... > The way my rawhide mirror works (mirror of a mirror), it would be nice > if yum had a --update-what-you-can option. After a normal pass, it would > just --exclude In a pinch do a "up2date-nox --list" or a "yum list updates" and save the output to a file. Then edit that in to a script that updates one or two or three packages at a time. The packages that can be installed will be installed. Then a new list can be generated and turned into a script. Also, by commenting out all but one or two sites in the yum.conf file you can often keep things simple enough to not have circular dependency requirements. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From mcolome1 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 06:33:58 2004 From: mcolome1 at yahoo.com (marcos colome) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:33:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <20040316063358.75439.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> Please remove my e-mail from the fedora list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From farnik at internode.on.net Tue Mar 16 06:51:27 2004 From: farnik at internode.on.net (K,N,D Farnik) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 17:21:27 +1030 Subject: yum - header cache fill In-Reply-To: <1079081679.2324.9.camel@FC2> Message-ID: <000701c40b23$1b668140$0101010a@whitestar> Is there a fast way to pre-load the FC2T1 yum header cache - i.e. via a single tar ball or whatever? TIA, Kym Farnik From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Mar 16 07:04:58 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:04:58 +0100 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20040316063358.75439.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040316063358.75439.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4056A71A.7090104@gmx.de> marcos colome wrote: >Please remove my e-mail from the fedora list > *you* can do it !!!!!!!!!!!! fedora-test-list ? http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list [unsubscribe or edit options] mcolome1 at yahoo.com or fedora list ? http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- shrek-m From jmorda at fsa.univ-artois.fr Tue Mar 16 08:15:09 2004 From: jmorda at fsa.univ-artois.fr (Morda Jean-Jacques) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:15:09 +0100 Subject: Installation shutdown my PC ! In-Reply-To: <200403151541.04697.kohli@webdeko.com> References: <200403151541.04697.kohli@webdeko.com> Message-ID: <200403160915.09679.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> Le Lundi 15 Mars 2004 15:41, Markus Kohli a ?crit : > > This is a known bug. The Radeon 9800 (Pro) isn't really supported yet. > I had to edit my XF86config manually, and enter "ChipID 0x4e46" in the > devices section for the graphics-card. This tells X to assume a Radeon > 9700, which actually is supported. No problems since then. Thanks, it works !! -- Jean-Jacques Morda Faculte des Sciences Appliquees de Bethune Technoparc Futura 62400 BETHUNE From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Mar 16 09:00:21 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:00:21 +0000 Subject: Keyboard handler Message-ID: <1079427621.7551.12.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, I'm trying to find what is causing a couple of very odd problems. I'm using the 2.6.4 kernel and XFree4.4.0 (though the same problem was there on the 2.6.3 kernels and official Fedora releases XFree86) Every now and again, the keyboard decides that it likes to autorepeat (as if either a key is pressed or control is permanently pressed). The autorepeat can be killed off by pressing escape. The second one is that when a user logs out, the keyboard will completely lock out. Everything else works (I can reset etc using the mouse). Nothing in the logs as to any program failing. Help! This is annoying me somewhat!!!! I'd like to track it so I can enter the problem on bugzilla, but without knowing the component, it's pretty difficult. TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kohli at webdeko.com Tue Mar 16 09:07:19 2004 From: kohli at webdeko.com (Markus Kohli) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:07:19 +0100 Subject: Installation shutdown my PC ! In-Reply-To: <200403160915.09679.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> References: <200403151541.04697.kohli@webdeko.com> <200403160915.09679.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> Message-ID: <200403161007.19497.kohli@webdeko.com> On Tuesday 16 March 2004 09.15, Morda Jean-Jacques wrote: > Thanks, it works !! Another alternative would be to install XFree86 4.4.0, it seems. The Radeon 9800 (Pro/XT) is listed as supported there. I'll try that tonight, probably. I'll let you know if it works. Kind regards Markus -- Exactly what time of morning did technology pass me by? From jmorda at fsa.univ-artois.fr Tue Mar 16 10:22:11 2004 From: jmorda at fsa.univ-artois.fr (Morda Jean-Jacques) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:22:11 +0100 Subject: Installation shutdown my PC ! In-Reply-To: <200403161007.19497.kohli@webdeko.com> References: <200403151541.04697.kohli@webdeko.com> <200403160915.09679.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> <200403161007.19497.kohli@webdeko.com> Message-ID: <200403161122.11956.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> Le Mardi 16 Mars 2004 10:07, Markus Kohli a ?crit : > Another alternative would be to install XFree86 4.4.0, it seems. The Radeon > 9800 (Pro/XT) is listed as supported there. > I'll try that tonight, probably. I'll let you know if it works. Ok. Thanks. But, the XFree 4.4.0 has a license problem (No GPL compliant) or has it been solved ? -- JJ. From fedora at networklifeline.net Tue Mar 16 10:26:36 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 03:26:36 -0700 Subject: terminal in gnome Message-ID: <20040316102636.19753.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> Did anyone lose the terminal function from gnome after updating completely. When I click open terminal it starts to run and never pops up and crashes. I see nothing in the messages file to post. BC From kohli at webdeko.com Tue Mar 16 10:26:47 2004 From: kohli at webdeko.com (Markus Kohli) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:26:47 +0100 Subject: Installation shutdown my PC ! In-Reply-To: <200403161122.11956.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> References: <200403151541.04697.kohli@webdeko.com> <200403161007.19497.kohli@webdeko.com> <200403161122.11956.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> Message-ID: <200403161126.47337.kohli@webdeko.com> On Tuesday 16 March 2004 11.22, Morda Jean-Jacques wrote: > But, the XFree 4.4.0 has a license problem (No GPL compliant) or has it > been solved ? Didn't know about this. But yes, it looks like they have changed their license. IMO it shouldn't bother standard users, tho. But please correct me, anyone, if that's wrong. -- Never lose your sense of the superficial. From bkw at weisshuhn.de Tue Mar 16 11:56:51 2004 From: bkw at weisshuhn.de (Bernhard K. Weisshuhn) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 12:56:51 +0100 Subject: gmp-4.1.2-13 pentium4 optimizations produce SIGILL on athlons Message-ID: <4056EB83.4020904@weisshuhn.de> Hi list, after upgrading an athlon system to gmp-4.1.2-13 from rawhide, I got SIGILLs from openswan pluto, which uses gmp. Seems gmp is configured for pentium4-Systems, which is even hardwired in the specfile (CFLAGS -march=PENTIUM4 and configure --enable-cxx pentium4-redhat-linux)! Does that make sense? I then did s/pentium4/athlon/i on the specfile and rebuilt (with --target athlon, just to make shure). The resulting binary cured the problems with pluto. Do we perhaps need cpu-specific packages for gmp? Should I file that in bugzilla? regards, Bernie From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 16 12:27:37 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:27:37 -0500 Subject: update (3/15) kills kde menus Message-ID: After updating 3/15, kde menus have a strange new problem. It seems I can select "Edit K Menu", but the result doesn't match what I actually get from the K menu on the panel. Any clues? From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 16 12:28:35 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:28:35 -0500 Subject: Hurray for autofs4! Message-ID: Finally I can ditch amd and still have /net functionality! From oc at teuto.net Tue Mar 16 12:47:21 2004 From: oc at teuto.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D6zg=FCr?= Caner) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:47:21 +0100 Subject: eclipse Message-ID: <1079441241.16664.28.camel@oc> Hi, I tried to run eclipse 3.0M7 with IBM jdk 1.4 and SUN jdk 1.5. But eclipse crashed with both jdks. Then I?ve installed the native eclipse, but same thing it wont run. Here is the error message of the native eclipse: JVM terminated. Exit code=1 /usr/lib/eclipse/gcjlauncher -cp /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86 -showsplash /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse -showsplash 600 Any ideas? From bcs at metacon.ca Tue Mar 16 12:54:56 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:54:56 -0400 Subject: terminal in gnome In-Reply-To: <20040316102636.19753.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040316102636.19753.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1079441695.8070.0.camel@zephyr> On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 06:26, BC wrote: > Did anyone lose the terminal function from gnome after updating completely. When I click open terminal it starts to run and never pops up and crashes. I see nothing in the messages file to post. How about opening an xterm and typing gnome-terminal. Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From smearp at mac.com Tue Mar 16 13:13:09 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 05:13:09 -0800 Subject: up2date is confusing me In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had the exact same thing happen. I was able to update it by running: yum update switchdesk from the terminal. Worked For Me (tm)! -Sean :) On Mar 15, 2004, at 6:29 PM, Thomas Molina wrote: > I launched the RedHat Alert Notification Tool, which said I had an > available update for switchdesk. It said I had switchdesk-3.9.8-18 and > switchdesk-4.0.1-1.1 was available. I then click on the button to > launch > up2date which says your system is fully updated, no new packages are > needed. wtfo?? The two statements seem contradictory. GPG public key: From pauln at truemesh.com Tue Mar 16 13:21:03 2004 From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:21:03 +0000 Subject: eclipse In-Reply-To: <1079441241.16664.28.camel@oc> References: <1079441241.16664.28.camel@oc> Message-ID: <20040316132102.GE32686@lichen.truemesh.com> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 01:47:21PM +0100, ?zg?r Caner wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to run eclipse 3.0M7 with IBM jdk 1.4 and SUN jdk 1.5. But > eclipse crashed with both jdks. Check workspace/.metadata/.log for details of the error. > Then I?ve installed the native eclipse, but same thing it wont run. > Here is the error message of the native eclipse: The native eclipse snapshots do not work with rawhide/fc2t1 This is for a variety of reasons (now using gcj34 rather than gcj-ssa, solib/gcjlib differences, etc). I have built eclipse successfully although not in a runnable state - various LinkageErrors to work through. However - the eclipse team have said that a release for fc2 will be forthcoming. Paul From ere at webedge.dk Tue Mar 16 13:34:22 2004 From: ere at webedge.dk (Erik Reuter) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:34:22 +0100 Subject: eclipse In-Reply-To: <1079441241.16664.28.camel@oc> References: <1079441241.16664.28.camel@oc> Message-ID: <4057025E.8050601@webedge.dk> I had problems with FC2 test 1 and Eclipse, look at this Eclipse bug: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=52785 It seemed there was an error in the unstable GTK lib in FC2, which has been fixed in a more recent version (GTK >= 2.3.5-1). ?zg?r Caner wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to run eclipse 3.0M7 with IBM jdk 1.4 and SUN jdk 1.5. But > eclipse crashed with both jdks. > > Then I?ve installed the native eclipse, but same thing it wont run. > Here is the error message of the native eclipse: > > JVM terminated. Exit code=1 > /usr/lib/eclipse/gcjlauncher > -cp /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main > -os linux > -ws gtk > -arch x86 > -showsplash /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse -showsplash 600 > > Any ideas? > > > From smearp at mac.com Tue Mar 16 13:31:34 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 05:31:34 -0800 Subject: up2date is confusing me In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E20AB92-774E-11D8-9191-000393C34F68@mac.com> That having been said... ' This morning the RedHat Alert Notification Tool reported 93 new packages, while the actual up2date program reports that I am fully updated as Thomas experienced below. Does this need to be Bugzillad? (up2date version 4.3.11-2.1.1) -Sean On Mar 16, 2004, at 5:13 AM, Sean Earp wrote: > I had the exact same thing happen. I was able to update it by running: > > yum update switchdesk from the terminal. > > Worked For Me (tm)! > > -Sean :) > > On Mar 15, 2004, at 6:29 PM, Thomas Molina wrote: > >> I launched the RedHat Alert Notification Tool, which said I had an >> available update for switchdesk. It said I had switchdesk-3.9.8-18 >> and >> switchdesk-4.0.1-1.1 was available. I then click on the button to >> launch >> up2date which says your system is fully updated, no new packages are >> needed. wtfo?? The two statements seem contradictory. GPG public key: From kissg at dataminer.hu Tue Mar 16 13:36:24 2004 From: kissg at dataminer.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kiss_G=E1bor?=) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:36:24 +0100 Subject: pobox question Message-ID: <005301c40b5b$ad1f36d0$0401a8c0@pclaptop> Dear All, we have a user who hase a large postbox file (bigger than 1 Gb). This is an archive pobox. We don't delete the incoming e-mails. Our e-mail client (m$ outlook) stops with time out from yesterday. In the server's maillog is the next failure: Mar 15 09:31:01 mail ipop3d[28452]: Command stream end of file while reading line user=... host=[....] Is there a limit to the ipop3d, or do we have other problem? Can you help me? Thanx G?bor From oc at teuto.net Tue Mar 16 13:42:38 2004 From: oc at teuto.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D6zg=FCr?= Caner) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:42:38 +0100 Subject: eclipse Message-ID: <1079444558.17612.10.camel@oc> After I set the classpath, the native eclipse is running. But it isn't much faster than the java version. The java version of eclipse always crashes, .log says: !SESSION ---------------------------------------------------------------------- !ENTRY org.eclipse.core.launcher 4 0 Mrz 16, 2004 14:33:42.549 !MESSAGE Exception launching the Eclipse Platform: !STACK java.lang.ClassCastException: org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleFragment at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.PackageAdmin.getExportedBundles(PackageAdmin.java:127) at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.PackageAdmin.initialize(PackageAdmin.java:86) at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.Framework.initialize(Framework.java:241) at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.Framework.(Framework.java:126) at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.OSGi.createFramework(OSGi.java:98) at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.OSGi.(OSGi.java:33) at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:69) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:494) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:279) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:742) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.main(Main.java:581) Thx ?zg?r From fedora at networklifeline.net Tue Mar 16 14:12:50 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:12:50 -0700 Subject: terminal in gnome Message-ID: <20040316141250.4218.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> I did and it said libvst.so.4 was missing. I am doing a re-install and trying to do the update again. Thanks for the help > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: terminal in gnome > From: "Ben Steeves" > Date: Tue, March 16, 2004 5:54 am > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > > On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 06:26, BC wrote: > > Did anyone lose the terminal function from gnome after updating > completely. When I click open terminal it starts to run and never pops > up and crashes. I see nothing in the messages file to post. > > How about opening an xterm and typing gnome-terminal. > > Ben > -- > Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 > http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mitr at volny.cz Tue Mar 16 14:16:58 2004 From: mitr at volny.cz (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:16:58 +0100 Subject: gmp-4.1.2-13 pentium4 optimizations produce SIGILL on athlons In-Reply-To: <4056EB83.4020904@weisshuhn.de> References: <4056EB83.4020904@weisshuhn.de> Message-ID: <20040316141658.GB21300@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 12:56:51PM +0100, Bernhard K. Weisshuhn wrote: > Seems gmp is configured for pentium4-Systems, which is even hardwired in > the specfile (CFLAGS -march=PENTIUM4 and configure --enable-cxx > pentium4-redhat-linux)! Does that make sense? The specfile builds two separate gmp libraries, one using SSE2 and one not. > Should I file that in bugzilla? Definitely. Mirek From linuxnow at newtral.org Tue Mar 16 15:08:00 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:08:00 +0100 (CET) Subject: Installation shutdown my PC ! In-Reply-To: <200403161126.47337.kohli@webdeko.com> References: <200403151541.04697.kohli@webdeko.com> <200403161007.19497.kohli@webdeko.com> <200403161122.11956.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> <200403161126.47337.kohli@webdeko.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Markus Kohli wrote: > On Tuesday 16 March 2004 11.22, Morda Jean-Jacques wrote: > > But, the XFree 4.4.0 has a license problem (No GPL compliant) or has it > > been solved ? > > Didn't know about this. But yes, it looks like they have changed their > license. IMO it shouldn't bother standard users, tho. > But please correct me, anyone, if that's wrong. I have buit RPMS based on Fedora Development's XFree86 spec file, keeping all the non-conflicting changes (maybe a bit randomly, but at least trying hard). If anyone needs the src.rpm or rpms and has an open ftp/http available, I can put them there. Pau From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Mar 16 15:41:44 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:41:44 -0500 Subject: yum - header cache fill In-Reply-To: <000701c40b23$1b668140$0101010a@whitestar> References: <000701c40b23$1b668140$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: <1079451704.26844.21.camel@binkley> On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 17:21 +1030, K,N,D Farnik wrote: > Is there a fast way to pre-load the FC2T1 yum header cache - i.e. via a > single tar ball or whatever? > install rpmdb-fedora and use yum from development. -sv From bcs at metacon.ca Tue Mar 16 15:53:02 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:53:02 -0400 Subject: terminal in gnome In-Reply-To: <20040316141250.4218.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040316141250.4218.qmail@webmail4.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1079452352.8070.12.camel@zephyr> On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 10:12, BC wrote: > I did and it said libvst.so.4 was missing. I am doing a re-install and trying to do the update again. Thanks for the help Hm... do you mean libvte.so.4? $ rpm -q --whatprovides libvte.so.4 vte-0.11.10-4 ...so basically all you need to do is make sure you have the right version of vte isntalled... $ rpm -q vte vte-0.11.10-4 ...if you don't have the package installed: $ up2date vte ...but really, if you have gnome-terminal, you ought to have vte, since it's a required package for installation... $ rpm -q --requires gnome-terminal | grep vte libvte.so.4 vte >= 0.11.10 ...see what fun you can have the up2date and rpm query commands? :-) -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From peter_banks at charter.net Tue Mar 16 16:27:13 2004 From: peter_banks at charter.net (Peter A. Banks) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:27:13 -0500 Subject: Compiling and installing gstream In-Reply-To: <20040316123059.ECE6C736A1@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Has anyone the magic switch combination needed to compile and install the real gstream into Fedora test 1? After I run the ./configure make dies after it tries to build the documentation with Jade. I would like to be able to use mp3 with Rhythmbox. Regards pab From jsolomon at comcast.net Tue Mar 16 17:40:25 2004 From: jsolomon at comcast.net (Jonathan Solomon) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 12:40:25 -0500 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 1, Issue 639 In-Reply-To: <20040316170012.74CCB73FD0@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040316170012.74CCB73FD0@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403161240.38184.jsolomon@comcast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sean, I believe up2date is happy as soon as the RPMs are downloaded, but the Redhat notifier won't be satisfied until they're all sucessfully installed. You may have encountered a problem there. On Tuesday 16 March 2004 12:00 pm, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 05:31:34 -0800 > From: Sean Earp > Subject: Re: up2date is confusing me > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <3E20AB92-774E-11D8-9191-000393C34F68 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > That having been said... ' > > This morning the RedHat Alert Notification Tool reported 93 new > packages, while the actual up2date program reports that I am fully > updated as Thomas experienced below. Does this need to be Bugzillad? > (up2date version 4.3.11-2.1.1) > > -Sean - -- Jonathan Solomon jsolomon at comcast.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAVzwJZ2EsOMkegxgRAvZoAJ9SpUl/DX1s3Boff71kwC+xIClTXwCfRrXr ZtZSPzkL/FknV9rxic4Q6Ik= =IvsV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mcolome1 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 17:43:39 2004 From: mcolome1 at yahoo.com (marcos colome) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:43:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 1, Issue 639 In-Reply-To: <200403161240.38184.jsolomon@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040316174339.27066.qmail@web80602.mail.yahoo.com> I AM NOT IN THE FEDORA LIST Jonathan Solomon wrote:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sean, I believe up2date is happy as soon as the RPMs are downloaded, but the Redhat notifier won't be satisfied until they're all sucessfully installed. You may have encountered a problem there. On Tuesday 16 March 2004 12:00 pm, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 05:31:34 -0800 > From: Sean Earp > Subject: Re: up2date is confusing me > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <3E20AB92-774E-11D8-9191-000393C34F68 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > That having been said... ' > > This morning the RedHat Alert Notification Tool reported 93 new > packages, while the actual up2date program reports that I am fully > updated as Thomas experienced below. Does this need to be Bugzillad? > (up2date version 4.3.11-2.1.1) > > -Sean - -- Jonathan Solomon jsolomon at comcast.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAVzwJZ2EsOMkegxgRAvZoAJ9SpUl/DX1s3Boff71kwC+xIClTXwCfRrXr ZtZSPzkL/FknV9rxic4Q6Ik= =IvsV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsolomon at comcast.net Tue Mar 16 19:59:02 2004 From: jsolomon at comcast.net (Jonathan Solomon) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:59:02 -0500 Subject: up2date is confusing me Message-ID: <200403161459.05397.jsolomon@comcast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sorry about the title on my last post. My first posting to a mailing-list in the 10+ years I've been on the Internet. ;) Won't happen again. I hope. That message is in reference to the message named in the subject of this one. - -- Jonathan Solomon jsolomon at comcast.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAV1yGZ2EsOMkegxgRAhxvAJ416lS7NUGMBvYQcWLdhgntX+tpEACfbJJd Y+4FsDIVvl+tSDsVn+jwUQk= =w0eT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From callumb at yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 21:43:07 2004 From: callumb at yahoo.com (Callum Benepe) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:43:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Gnucash won't start Message-ID: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All, I just updated Gnucash to 1.8.8-4 with Up2date, but now get the following error message, and Gnucash won't start. Any ideas, please? Thanks! ** WARNING **: Failed to open module gnucash/app-utils ** WARNING **: : could not locate gnucash/app-utils interface v.0 ERROR: Unbound variable: gnc:setup-gettext __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed Mar 17 00:06:23 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:06:23 -0500 Subject: Gnucash won't start In-Reply-To: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4057967F.3030200@insight.rr.com> Callum Benepe wrote: > Hi All, > > I just updated Gnucash to 1.8.8-4 with Up2date, but > now get the following error message, and Gnucash won't > start. Any ideas, please? Thanks! > > ** WARNING **: Failed to open module gnucash/app-utils > > ** WARNING **: : could not locate gnucash/app-utils > interface v.0 > > ERROR: Unbound variable: gnc:setup-gettext > I can confirm that you are not alone. I get the same error message. gnucash ** WARNING **: Failed to open module gnucash/app-utils ** WARNING **: : could not locate gnucash/app-utils interface v.0 ERROR: Unbound variable: gnc:setup-gettext Jim From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed Mar 17 00:15:10 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:15:10 -0500 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors Message-ID: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> I just upgraded all of the rpms and had to remove mutt and squid in order to have no conflicts with the install. Trying to re-install mutt gives me this error message. Unresolvable chain of dependencies: mutt 1.4.1-6 requires libsasl.so.7 trying to reinstall squid outputs this error. Unresolvable chain of dependencies: squid 2.5.STABLE5-1 requires libsasl.so.7 From neuro at seclab.jp Wed Mar 17 00:25:03 2004 From: neuro at seclab.jp (Frederic de Villamil) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:25:03 +0100 Subject: Gnucash won't start In-Reply-To: <4057967F.3030200@insight.rr.com> References: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> <4057967F.3030200@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040317002503.GA80249@jesus.seclab.jp> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > Callum Benepe wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > >I just updated Gnucash to 1.8.8-4 with Up2date, but > >now get the following error message, and Gnucash won't > >start. Any ideas, please? Thanks! > > > >** WARNING **: Failed to open module gnucash/app-utils > > > >** WARNING **: : could not locate gnucash/app-utils > >interface v.0 > > > >ERROR: Unbound variable: gnc:setup-gettext > > > > I can confirm that you are not alone. I get the same error message. > > gnucash > > ** WARNING **: Failed to open module gnucash/app-utils > > ** WARNING **: : could not locate gnucash/app-utils interface v.0 > > ERROR: Unbound variable: gnc:setup-gettext Hello, I just had a look at your problem, and no trouble for me. Gnucash starts and run well. -- < Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president et pere de famille respectable :s http://www.seclab.jp From neuro at seclab.jp Wed Mar 17 00:32:11 2004 From: neuro at seclab.jp (Frederic de Villamil) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:32:11 +0100 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040317003211.GB80249@jesus.seclab.jp> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > I just upgraded all of the rpms and had to remove mutt and squid in > order to have no conflicts with the install. > > Trying to re-install mutt gives me this error message. > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > mutt 1.4.1-6 requires libsasl.so.7 > > trying to reinstall squid outputs this error. > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > squid 2.5.STABLE5-1 requires libsasl.so.7 Hello, I had the same problem a few time ago, when I needed to upgrade a package. I was asked openssl-devel and it was not installed on my system. As soon as I installed it, I was not in trouble anymore. I don't know what way you're upgrading your packages but it seems up2date doesn't like missing dependances as long as it's not just an upgrade issue. Do you already have libsasl installed on your system? If not, install it and retry yyour upgrade. Otherwise, upgrade it to the needed version. Regards. Frederic -- < Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president et pere de famille respectable :s http://www.seclab.jp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Baker) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:39:03 -0500 Subject: Gnucash won't start In-Reply-To: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1079487543.5454.0.camel@neuromancer.bakerconsulting.com> On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 16:43, Callum Benepe wrote: > Hi All, > > I just updated Gnucash to 1.8.8-4 with Up2date, but > now get the following error message, and Gnucash won't > start. Any ideas, please? Thanks! > > ** WARNING **: Failed to open module gnucash/app-utils > > ** WARNING **: : could not locate gnucash/app-utils > interface v.0 > > ERROR: Unbound variable: gnc:setup-gettext > I've bugzillaed it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118495 tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From rezso at rdsor.ro Wed Mar 17 03:08:48 2004 From: rezso at rdsor.ro (Balint Cristian) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 05:08:48 +0200 Subject: Tomcat on x86_64 and i386 errors :( Message-ID: <200403170508.48297.rezso@rdsor.ro> Hi ! Tryed tomcat from latest fedora devel, (tomcat-4.1.27-10.2) runned default install without touch any config file of tomcat on an x86_64 and i386 too but getting errors, on booth system: Must edit something in config file or this tomcat is an early beta need more work ? Must remark that naoko (gbenson's) runned nice on i386 machines, tryed few month ago and was impressed of it. Here is what i am getting: Bootstrap: Create Catalina server Created catalinaLoader in: /usr/share/tomcat/server/lib org.apache.commons.logging.LogConfigurationException: org.apache.commons.logging.LogConfigurationException: java.lang.IllegalAccessError at org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.newInstance(java.lang.String) (Unknown Source) at org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.getInstance(java.lang.String) (Unknown Source) at org.apache.commons.logging.LogFactory.getLog(java.lang.String) (Unknown Source) at org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.finit$() (Unknown Source) at org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.Digester() (Unknown Source) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.createStartDigester() (Unknown Source) at org.apache.catalina.startup.CatalinaService.load() (Unknown Source) at org.apache.catalina.startup.CatalinaService.load(java.lang.String[]) (Unknown Source) at _Jv_CallAnyMethodA(java.lang.Object, java.lang.Class, _Jv_Method, boolean, boolean, java.lang.Class[], jvalue, jvalue, boolean) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.5. 0.0) at _Jv_CallAnyMethodA(java.lang.Object, java.lang.Class, _Jv_Method, boolean, java.lang.Class[], java.lang.Object[]) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.5.0.0) at org.apache.catalina.startup.BootstrapService.init(java.lang.String[]) (/usr/lib64/lib-org-apache-catalina-bootstrap-4.1.27.so) at _Jv_ThreadRun(java.lang.Thread) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.5.0.0) at _Jv_RunMain(java.lang.Class, byte const, int, byte const, boolean) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.5.0.0) at __libc_start_main (/lib64/tls/libc-2.3.3.so) Caused by: org.apache.commons.logging.LogConfigurationException: java.lang.IllegalAccessError at org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.getLogConstructor() (Unknown Source) at org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.newInstance(java.lang.String) (Unknown Source) ...13 more Caused by: java.lang.IllegalAccessError at _Jv_SearchMethodInClass(java.lang.Class, java.lang.Class, _Jv_Utf8Const, _Jv_Utf8Const) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.5.0.0) at _Jv_ResolvePoolEntry(java.lang.Class, int) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.5.0.0) at org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl$1.run() (Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(java.security.PrivilegedAction) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.5.0.0) at org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.loadClass(java.lang.String) (Unknown Source) at org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.getLogConstructor() (Unknown Source) On an i386 i am getting java.lang.IllegalAccessError too. Thanks in advance, cristian From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed Mar 17 03:09:27 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:09:27 -0500 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: <20040317003211.GB80249@jesus.seclab.jp> References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <20040317003211.GB80249@jesus.seclab.jp> Message-ID: <4057C167.2090401@insight.rr.com> Frederic de Villamil wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>I just upgraded all of the rpms and had to remove mutt and squid in >>order to have no conflicts with the install. >> >>Trying to re-install mutt gives me this error message. >> >>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>mutt 1.4.1-6 requires libsasl.so.7 >> >>trying to reinstall squid outputs this error. >> >>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>squid 2.5.STABLE5-1 requires libsasl.so.7 > > > Hello, > I had the same problem a few time ago, when I needed to upgrade a > package. I was asked openssl-devel and it was not installed on my > system. As soon as I installed it, I was not in trouble anymore. I have openssl-devel-0.9.7a-34 installed. > > I don't know what way you're upgrading your packages but it seems > up2date doesn't like missing dependances as long as it's not just an > upgrade issue. > > Do you already have libsasl installed on your system? If not, install > it and retry yyour upgrade. Otherwise, upgrade it to the needed > version. After removing mutt and squid. I upgraded these packages successfully. If they are any good, I don't know yet. cyrus-sasl-2.1.18-1 cyrus-sasl-devel-2.1.18-1 cyrus-sasl-md5-2.1.18-1 cyrus-sasl-plain-2.1.18-1 In the meantime, I am deleting programs that cause conflicts. So far, I removed nautilus-media in order to get other upgrades and these two programs. The problem with removing mutt is that I have to use kmail to read my system mail now or mail itself. What other tui mail programs are available on the system? Jim > > Regards. > Frederic > -- > < Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president > et pere de famille respectable :s > http://www.seclab.jp > From notting at redhat.com Wed Mar 17 03:19:41 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:19:41 -0500 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Jim Cornette (redhat-jc at insight.rr.com) said: > I just upgraded all of the rpms and had to remove mutt and squid in > order to have no conflicts with the install. > > Trying to re-install mutt gives me this error message. > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > mutt 1.4.1-6 requires libsasl.so.7 > > trying to reinstall squid outputs this error. > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > squid 2.5.STABLE5-1 requires libsasl.so.7 Will be fixed with a new cyrus-sasl tomorrow. Bill From reader at newsguy.com Wed Mar 17 04:20:28 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:20:28 -0600 Subject: Looking for working cups config Message-ID: List, Any one here with a similar setup: FED2 test 1, cups, with (HP) printer connected to a winxp machine on the local network. Using the samba(smb) connection thru cups. I'm having no luck at setting up cups ..though its always been easy to do in the past using `system-print-config (or predecessors). I'd like to see /etc/cups/cupsd.conf /etc/cups/printers.conf and any related files under /etc/cups/ppd/* If its not too much of a privacy breach, please send me those files. From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed Mar 17 04:39:47 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:39:47 -0500 Subject: Evolution HTTP links In-Reply-To: <20040315202657.GA5549@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1077620287.599.62.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1077942658.3206.63.camel@family> <405539F4.9070604@mac.com> <1079329492.27721.9.camel@zorak> <1079334870.27547.1.camel@study> <20040315173629.GA32035@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1079375072.4757.376.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040315202657.GA5549@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079498387.3419.10.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 15:26 -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 07:24:32PM +0100, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > > Hello Alan, > > > > > hat would be one for bugzilla > > > > Not really, as I think evolution has been reverted to 1.4.5 for FC 2 > > test 1. It will be upgraded to 1.4.6 soon. Correct me if I am wrong. > > Ah did I misunderstand you - I thought this was also true of 1.4.5/6 from > your earlier email. > $ grep epiphany /etc/gconf/schemas/desktop_gnome_url_handlers.schemas epiphany %s epiphany %s $ rpm -q --file /etc/gconf/schemas/desktop_gnome_url_handlers.schemas gnome-vfs2-2.5.91-1 But maybe epiphany will be the default browser for FC2? On a side note. I wonder why apps don't register their gnome capabilities, for instance, in their ".desktop" file, so that these don't have to be hard coded in some separate gnome package ... then they can be discovered depending on what's installed? This is exactly how the menus work. :) From kazuengineer at yahoo.com.au Wed Mar 17 05:03:02 2004 From: kazuengineer at yahoo.com.au (***Kazu***) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:03:02 +1000 Subject: list of the kernel parameters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4057DC06.6070006@yahoo.com.au> Hi all Can anyone tell me where can I find the detailed list of all the kernel parameters including descrption of each patameters and range of configureble values. Or does not exist such thing? Thanks in advance. Regards Kazu From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed Mar 17 05:25:23 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:25:23 -0500 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <20040316052730.GC19722@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <20040316052730.GC19722@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <1079501123.3599.8.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 21:27 -0800, Tom Mitchell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 09:42:14AM -0500, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > > Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > > > On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 01:29, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > > > > So just to be sure I understand. You take the list of updateable pkgs, > > > > and you iterate over each one until you can't update anything completely > > > > anymore. Is that right? > > > > > > > > > > Also, I couldn't figure out how to make yum stop > > > "Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)" > > > every single time it is run (to iterate through that list faster). > .... > > The way my rawhide mirror works (mirror of a mirror), it would be nice > > if yum had a --update-what-you-can option. After a normal pass, it would > > just --exclude > > In a pinch do a "up2date-nox --list" or a "yum list updates" and save the output > to a file. Then edit that in to a script that updates one or two or > three packages at a time. The packages that can be installed will > be installed. Then a new list can be generated and turned into a script. The easiest way is to get familiar with "yum provides " and "yum list ". Sometimes you'll want to exclude ("yum --exclude= update") a package from update, other times you'll want to remove the offending package ("rpm -e "). There's no easy logic to automate. From gleblanc at linuxweasel.com Wed Mar 17 06:24:42 2004 From: gleblanc at linuxweasel.com (Gregory Leblanc) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:24:42 -0800 Subject: nasty hack around broken yum archive dependancy blockages In-Reply-To: <1079371969.8655.104.camel@binkley> References: <20040314223359.02D6473D2D@hormel.redhat.com> <1079332167.2665.6.camel@localhost> <1079361733.30605.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1079362001.8655.97.camel@binkley> <1079371322.18766.17.camel@chip.laiskiainen.org> <1079371969.8655.104.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1079504681.1947.4.camel@glaptop> On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 09:32, seth vidal wrote: > > But then.. if you can't use the depsolvers to keep up with rawhide, back > > to rpm -Fvh > > > > I didn't say it was out I just said it's a funny direction for things to > follow. You'd think if so many people were going to follow rawhide then > so many people would spend more time making it a touch more consistent > before it gets pushed. Unfortunately, we (that is, non-RH employees involved in fedora) have not been given any ability to do this yet. Things seem to be broken for days at a time right now, rather than for just 24-hours after the last push, by which time several people have usually found and reported the issue here, if not in bugzilla. Where SHOULD "rawhide deps are broken" reports go to, and what information do folks want in them? Greg From TVarveris at wiley.com Wed Mar 17 06:30:32 2004 From: TVarveris at wiley.com (TVarveris at wiley.com) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:30:32 -0500 Subject: Terri Varveris/P&T/NewYork909/Wiley is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 03/15/2004 and will not return until 03/18/2004. I'll be out of the office on Tuesday and Wednesday, March 16th and 17th. I'll be back on March 18th. From dionysos at grisbi.org Wed Mar 17 07:45:54 2004 From: dionysos at grisbi.org (Dionysos) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:45:54 +0100 Subject: Gnucash won't start In-Reply-To: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200403170845.57744.dionysos@grisbi.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Le Mardi 16 Mars 2004 22:43, Callum Benepe a ?crit : > Hi All, > > I just updated Gnucash to 1.8.8-4 with Up2date, but > now get the following error message, and Gnucash won't > start. Any ideas, please? Thanks! Try Grisbi http://www.grisbi.org Sorry :-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWAIy83EaFCDX13MRAmygAJ9NuAIkdrC/Jjun0LW7cFMuLj6y/QCghhT4 YHEB7RQwL4wrN3GUVKohezo= =vD7y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux at bytebot.net Wed Mar 17 08:26:11 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:26:11 +1100 Subject: Pump on FC2T1? In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2AF@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2AF@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: <1079511971.15398.71.camel@hermione> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 07:12, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > I have been trying to use pump (dhcp client) on FC2T1 and can't seem to > get it to work. I have tried it on FC1 and FC1 with a 2.6 Kernel and it > seems to work fine on them. When I'm running pump on FC2T1 I get > several messages from the dhcpd server that "5 bad udp checksums in 5 > packets". I am going to keep digging into it, but I wanted to ask if > there is something that is a known problem that I'm unaware of? Any > pointers would be welcome. I thought pump hasn't been included for quite a while; use dhclient as a replacement. Or something like "ifup eth0" (where eth0 is your ethernet card) -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Wed Mar 17 09:29:38 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:29:38 +0100 Subject: postgresql-7.4.2-1 and fedora core 2 test Message-ID: <40581A82.9090403@filmakademie.de> Hi, I'd tried to install OGO on my Testserver, but it failed because I forgot to install postgresql. I downloaded the latest postgresql-*7.4.2-1, but couldn't start the server. [root at salvatore data]# /etc/init.d/postgresql start Datenbank initialisieren: [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] postgresql Service starten: [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] The Core 1 postgresql-7.3.4-11-out-of-the-box-installation worked on a different server. Any ideas?? regards G?tz Reinicke -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 17 09:39:06 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:39:06 -0800 Subject: Installation shutdown my PC ! In-Reply-To: <200403161122.11956.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> References: <200403151541.04697.kohli@webdeko.com> <200403160915.09679.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> <200403161007.19497.kohli@webdeko.com> <200403161122.11956.jmorda@fsa.univ-artois.fr> Message-ID: <20040317093906.GF23746@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 11:22:11AM +0100, Morda Jean-Jacques wrote: > Le Mardi 16 Mars 2004 10:07, Markus Kohli a ?crit : > > Another alternative would be to install XFree86 4.4.0, it seems. The Radeon > > 9800 (Pro/XT) is listed as supported there. > > I'll try that tonight, probably. I'll let you know if it works. > > Ok. Thanks. > > But, the XFree 4.4.0 has a license problem (No GPL compliant) or has it been > solved ? But, It is ok for you to use. If you read the fine print it is packagers and users like RH that are constrained. Just because the license is not RH friendly it is open source and end user friendly. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From fedora at networklifeline.net Wed Mar 17 09:42:59 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 02:42:59 -0700 Subject: Can't start Services config Message-ID: <20040317094259.28407.qmail@webmail-2-5.mesa1.secureserver.net> When I try to run services from sersetting menu aitem nothing happens. When I run it from a command line I get the folooing error. Anyone have a solution for this ? # /usr/bin/system-config-services (system-config-services:11185): libglade-WARNING **: could not find glade file 'serviceconf.glade' (system-config-services:11185): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1222 (g_object_get): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (system-config-services:11185): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1222 (g_object_get): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed From yonasb at netzero.com Wed Mar 17 09:49:25 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonas abraham) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:49:25 -0500 Subject: Can't start Services config In-Reply-To: <20040317094259.28407.qmail@webmail-2-5.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20040317094259.28407.qmail@webmail-2-5.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <40581F25.6050704@netzero.com> BC wrote: >When I try to run services from sersetting menu aitem nothing happens. When I run it from a command line I get the folooing error. Anyone have a solution for this ? > > ># /usr/bin/system-config-services > >(system-config-services:11185): libglade-WARNING **: could not find glade file 'serviceconf.glade' > >(system-config-services:11185): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1222 (g_object_get): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >(system-config-services:11185): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1222 (g_object_get): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > > > > I have simillar problem From gbenson at redhat.com Wed Mar 17 10:01:59 2004 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:01:59 +0000 Subject: Tomcat on x86_64 and i386 errors :( In-Reply-To: <200403170508.48297.rezso@rdsor.ro> References: <200403170508.48297.rezso@rdsor.ro> Message-ID: <20040317100158.GA3457@redhat.com> Balint Cristian wrote: > Tryed tomcat from latest fedora devel, (tomcat-4.1.27-10.2) runned > default install without touch any config file of tomcat on an x86_64 > and i386 too but getting errors, on booth system: Must edit > something in config file or this tomcat is an early beta need more > work ? It's a known bug -- I've been working on it for a couple of days now. Good to know that it happens on i386 too (I'm developing on x86_64 these days). > Must remark that naoko (gbenson's) runned nice on i386 machines, > tryed few month ago and was impressed of it. The stuff in FC2 is pretty much what Naoko was, but with a different compiler. Gary From tmolina at cablespeed.com Wed Mar 17 10:59:30 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 05:59:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jim Cornette (redhat-jc at insight.rr.com) said: > > I just upgraded all of the rpms and had to remove mutt and squid in > > order to have no conflicts with the install. > > > > Trying to re-install mutt gives me this error message. > > > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > > mutt 1.4.1-6 requires libsasl.so.7 > > > > trying to reinstall squid outputs this error. > > > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > > squid 2.5.STABLE5-1 requires libsasl.so.7 > > Will be fixed with a new cyrus-sasl tomorrow. So how do you want to handle this situation where the update repository gets out of whack? Report it? How often? The advice on the previous situation was to remove nautilus-media, but removing packages is not a solution. It looks like the nautilus-media thing was a library got upgraded, but nautilus-media still had a dependency on the old one. From magnus at schoultz.cx Wed Mar 17 11:08:30 2004 From: magnus at schoultz.cx (Magnus Schoultz) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:08:30 +0100 Subject: list of the kernel parameters In-Reply-To: <4057DC06.6070006@yahoo.com.au> References: <4057DC06.6070006@yahoo.com.au> Message-ID: <405831AE.6000301@schoultz.cx> ***Kazu*** wrote: > Hi all > > Can anyone tell me where can I find the detailed list of all the > kernel parameters > including descrption of each patameters and range of configureble values. > Or does not exist such thing? > Thanks in advance. > > Regards > > Kazu > > > /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt -magnus From callumb at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 12:13:37 2004 From: callumb at yahoo.com (Callum Benepe) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:13:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Gnucash won't start Message-ID: <20040317121337.98970.qmail@web41508.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I did a manual fix on gnucash by downloading the previous rpm 1.8.8-1 at Fedora updates, then opening a terminal as root and the command "rpm -Uvh --force *.rpm" in the drectory where I'd saved that single package. I'll happily wait for the next update :) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From usdanskys at rocketmail.com Wed Mar 17 12:39:08 2004 From: usdanskys at rocketmail.com (Steven Usdansky) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 06:39:08 -0600 Subject: Can't start Services config Message-ID: <20040317063908.3d3a5f9c@Microcline> Try replacing your current version of libglade2 with libglade2-2.3.2-1. It worked for me. -- Steven I. Usdansky, PhD Traveling Geologist usdanskys at rocketmail.com From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed Mar 17 12:42:06 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:42:06 -0500 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4058479E.7020607@insight.rr.com> Thomas Molina wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >>Jim Cornette (redhat-jc at insight.rr.com) said: >> >>>I just upgraded all of the rpms and had to remove mutt and squid in >>>order to have no conflicts with the install. >>> >>>Trying to re-install mutt gives me this error message. >>> >>>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>>mutt 1.4.1-6 requires libsasl.so.7 >>> >>>trying to reinstall squid outputs this error. >>> >>>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>>squid 2.5.STABLE5-1 requires libsasl.so.7 >> >>Will be fixed with a new cyrus-sasl tomorrow. > > > So how do you want to handle this situation where the update repository > gets out of whack? Report it? How often? > > The advice on the previous situation was to remove nautilus-media, but > removing packages is not a solution. It looks like the nautilus-media > thing was a library got upgraded, but nautilus-media still had a > dependency on the old one. > > Removing packages that have dep problems, is by no means a solution for resolving conflicts, with other programs. I don't think doing a nodep is a good practice either. For nautilus-media removal, it was more of a test to satisfy other media applications and on Sandy's detective work on pinning down nautilus-media as the offending application. If this wasn't a test process and things weren't changing so quickly. It would be better to submit a bug for the problems encountered. However, without the postings related to the conflicts, it is hard for people to know what is really going on. One problem, many solutions. Regarding the mutt and squid conflict. I use mutt and don't think that I use squid. Removing this program was with much hesitation. I'll try installing it again tonight, with the new cirus-sasl version. Jim From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 13:18:02 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:18:02 -0500 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jim Cornette (redhat-jc at insight.rr.com) said: >> I just upgraded all of the rpms and had to remove mutt and squid in >> order to have no conflicts with the install. >> >> Trying to re-install mutt gives me this error message. >> >> Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >> mutt 1.4.1-6 requires libsasl.so.7 >> >> trying to reinstall squid outputs this error. >> >> Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >> squid 2.5.STABLE5-1 requires libsasl.so.7 > > Will be fixed with a new cyrus-sasl tomorrow. > > Bill > > OK, so what do I do exactly? I assume the fix is now in place. I see there is a new cyrus-sasl-0-2.1.18. I guess that's what you meant? But yum update does: .Package mutt needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package mutt needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package freeradius needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package freeradius needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package openh323 needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package openh323 needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package pwlib needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package pwlib needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package pwlib-devel needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package pwlib-devel needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package squid needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. Package squid needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. From kohli at webdeko.com Wed Mar 17 13:26:42 2004 From: kohli at webdeko.com (Markus Kohli) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:26:42 +0100 Subject: XFree 4.4.0 RPMs for 64bits Message-ID: <200403171426.42382.kohli@webdeko.com> Hi Folks As Pau Aliagas stated yesterday, he kindly built the XFree 4.4.0 RPMs on his 64bit-machine. "I have buit RPMS based on Fedora Development's XFree86 spec file, keeping all the non-conflicting changes (maybe a bit randomly, but at least trying hard)." Now those packages are available for download here: http://www.webdeko.com/xfree44_rpms_64 Kind regards Markus -- Mind full of trivia. No room left for real knowledge. From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed Mar 17 13:40:54 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:40:54 -0500 Subject: Xorg server Message-ID: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> So, I noticed the Xorg server on rawhide ... so what's the story. The XFree server is still the default. Can Xorg server be installed in parallel for testing? :) From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 13:44:12 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:44:12 -0500 Subject: please add maildrop Message-ID: maildrop-1.6.2.tar.bz2 will build RPMS for fedora right out of the box, IIRC. Please add this. It has functionality similar to procmail, but is much easier for a human to understand. I don't need to learn yet another computer language. From johnbs at tele2.fr Wed Mar 17 13:44:59 2004 From: johnbs at tele2.fr (john brennan-sardou) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:44:59 +0100 Subject: Fc2 hangs up when I try to install Message-ID: <1079531099.13731.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, everybody, I hope that you can help me. I am trying to run fedora core 2 but when I start the installation it just hangs up. It stops dead just after Anaconda starts with : trying to remount root filesystem read/write ....done mounting /tmp as ramfs..........done Running install running /sbin/loader. and then no joy at all......... I waited over half an hour yesterday to give it all the chances it needed but to no avail. What should I do? Does this mean that core 2 will not work on this machine? It didn't seem to have any troubles when it came to installing core 1. Tnanks for any help that you can offer. John Brennan-Sardou johnbs at tele2.fr here is what is on my box : could be the hardware!!! I have just tried Fc2 on another box and it seems to be ok therefore this seems to justify the idea that there is a clear hardware problem. Any ideas? cd rom drives Hl-dt-stdvd-rom gdrb Lite-on LTR 321235 floppydisk 3.5 1.44mb floppy drive hard drives wdc wd400bb-00cfc0 samsung sv20421 (I use this one for the installation) network devices Realtek ne2k-pci dev/etho pointing devices Logitech optical wheel mouse. Printers hewlett-packard laserjet 5L printer sound cards vt8233/A/8235 AC97 audio controller system devices Linux 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl ehci_hcd Via technologies, Inc Usb 2.0 usb devices usb 2 video cards Nv34 geforce fx 5200 processor AMD athlon XP 2600 Chipset Via kt400 and VT8235cd From swamper at adelphia.net Wed Mar 17 15:12:08 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:12:08 -0500 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040317151208.GB14225@localhost.localdomain> Neal D. Becker wrote: > Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Jim Cornette (redhat-jc at insight.rr.com) said: > >> I just upgraded all of the rpms and had to remove mutt and squid in > > Will be fixed with a new cyrus-sasl tomorrow. > > OK, so what do I do exactly? I assume the fix is now in place. I see there > is a new cyrus-sasl-0-2.1.18. I guess that's what you meant? > > But yum update does: > .Package mutt needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package mutt needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package freeradius needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package freeradius needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package openh323 needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package openh323 needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package pwlib needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package pwlib needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package pwlib-devel needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package pwlib-devel needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package squid needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > Package squid needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. I saw the same earlier but now yum says, Resolving dependencies Dependencies resolved I will do the following: [install: kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i686] [update: pango 1.4.0-1.i386] [update: openssh-server 3.6.1p2-34.i386] and blah, blah, blah... several dozen blahs... But now mutt or squid, for some reason isn't in the list to be updated. Go figure. From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed Mar 17 15:15:13 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:15:13 -0500 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: <4058479E.7020607@insight.rr.com> References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4058479E.7020607@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1079536513.10584.9.camel@family> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 07:42 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > Removing packages that have dep problems, is by no means a solution for > resolving conflicts, with other programs. I don't think doing a nodep is > a good practice either. This is really a custom situation that depends on many things. > For nautilus-media removal, it was more of a test to satisfy other media > applications and on Sandy's detective work on pinning down > nautilus-media as the offending application. This is real easy if you use "yum provides " and "yum list " after a dependency failure. Maybe yum could do a better job of doing an automatic "provide" and "list" when it encounters a dependency problem. > If this wasn't a test process and things weren't changing so quickly. It > would be better to submit a bug for the problems encountered. However, > without the postings related to the conflicts, it is hard for people to > know what is really going on. One problem, many solutions. > This is really a custom situation that depends on many things. > > Regarding the mutt and squid conflict. I use mutt and don't think that I > use squid. Removing this program was with much hesitation. > Case in point. :) From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Wed Mar 17 15:49:24 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:49:24 -0600 Subject: Pump on FC2T1? Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2C5@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> I tried dhclient first and couldn't get it to behave itself correctly. This system absolutely cannot hang during booting if the cable is disconnected. Even if the cable is connected we don't have time to wait while it does it's thing. And then if three hours later somebody plugs in the network cable it needs to do it's thing correctly. I have not been able to get dhclient to work under these circumstances, whereas if I start pump in the background at bootup it seems to behave itself. If there is some other way to force dhclient to meet the requirements then I would be more than happy to use it. Thanks -Scott -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Colin Charles Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:26 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Pump on FC2T1? On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 07:12, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > I have been trying to use pump (dhcp client) on FC2T1 and can't seem to > get it to work. I have tried it on FC1 and FC1 with a 2.6 Kernel and it > seems to work fine on them. When I'm running pump on FC2T1 I get > several messages from the dhcpd server that "5 bad udp checksums in 5 > packets". I am going to keep digging into it, but I wanted to ask if > there is something that is a known problem that I'm unaware of? Any > pointers would be welcome. I thought pump hasn't been included for quite a while; use dhclient as a replacement. Or something like "ifup eth0" (where eth0 is your ethernet card) -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Wed Mar 17 15:52:55 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:52:55 +0000 Subject: Release of test2 Message-ID: <1079538775.2214.1.camel@datacc> Anyone any idea when test2 is being released It was due (last I heard) on Friday 12 March From sopwith at redhat.com Wed Mar 17 16:02:51 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:02:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Release of test2 In-Reply-To: <1079538775.2214.1.camel@datacc> References: <1079538775.2214.1.camel@datacc> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, mike wrote: > Anyone any idea when test2 is being released > It was due (last I heard) on Friday 12 March http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ always has the latest. Devel freeze today, release March 29. -- Elliot From popgojp at yahoo.co.jp Wed Mar 17 16:04:03 2004 From: popgojp at yahoo.co.jp (d l) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:04:03 +0900 (JST) Subject: Release of test2 In-Reply-To: <1079538775.2214.1.camel@datacc> Message-ID: <20040317160403.64791.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.co.jp> --- mike ????????? > Anyone any idea when test2 is being released > It was due (last I heard) on Friday 12 March > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list I think 12/3 is the day which fed2test2 devel is frezeed. release day is 22/3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Wed Mar 17 16:05:25 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:05:25 -0600 Subject: Release of test2 Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2C7@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> According to this schedule it's March 29 (assuming that comma is supposed to be there ;) http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of mike Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:53 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Release of test2 Anyone any idea when test2 is being released It was due (last I heard) on Friday 12 March -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From linuxnow at newtral.org Wed Mar 17 16:16:09 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:16:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: Release of test2 In-Reply-To: References: <1079538775.2214.1.camel@datacc> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Elliot Lee wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, mike wrote: > > Anyone any idea when test2 is being released > Devel freeze today, release March 29. Does it mean that the development directory we have now will, more or less, be what will be included in test2? Pau From p1374953 at cedarville.edu Wed Mar 17 16:40:17 2004 From: p1374953 at cedarville.edu (Timothy Ryan Bierer) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:40:17 -0500 Subject: up2date doesn't play nice with proxy servers? Message-ID: <40587F71.5050803@cedarville.edu> Up2date seems to be having a hard time getting through our proxy. The related websites and such are not blocked by the institution, and I was wondering if anybody else was having that problem/how they fixed it. Thanks! Tim From joe at swelltech.com Wed Mar 17 16:42:48 2004 From: joe at swelltech.com (Joe Cooper) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:42:48 -0600 Subject: up2date doesn't play nice with proxy servers? In-Reply-To: <40587F71.5050803@cedarville.edu> References: <40587F71.5050803@cedarville.edu> Message-ID: <40588008.5070009@swelltech.com> Timothy Ryan Bierer wrote: > Up2date seems to be having a hard time getting through our proxy. The > related websites and such are not blocked by the institution, and I was > wondering if anybody else was having that problem/how they fixed it. > Thanks! For what it's worth, our Squid proxy doesn't cause any problems with up2date on our local network. You might check the error log or access log of the proxy to see why the proxy is blocking access--I don't think up2date uses any odd HTTP methods, but it might. WebDAV has a history of slow adoption in proxies. If there are no relevant log entries, a tcpdump of the session and a conversation with your proxy vendor are probably the best things you can do to resolve it. -- Joe Cooper Web caching appliances and support. http://www.swelltech.com From pauln at truemesh.com Wed Mar 17 16:51:39 2004 From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:51:39 +0000 Subject: up2date doesn't play nice with proxy servers? In-Reply-To: <40587F71.5050803@cedarville.edu> References: <40587F71.5050803@cedarville.edu> Message-ID: <20040317165131.GE28034@lichen.truemesh.com> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:40:17AM -0500, Timothy Ryan Bierer wrote: > Up2date seems to be having a hard time getting through our proxy. The > related websites and such are not blocked by the institution, and I was > wondering if anybody else was having that problem/how they fixed it. > Thanks! You may be hit by https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102272 as root (so don't go via consolehelper) export http_proxy=http://my.proxy:3128 up2date -u Paul From rjohnson at medata.com Wed Mar 17 18:01:27 2004 From: rjohnson at medata.com (Rick Johnson) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:01:27 -0800 Subject: Release of test2 In-Reply-To: References: <1079538775.2214.1.camel@datacc> Message-ID: <40589277.9030401@medata.com> Elliot Lee wrote: > Devel freeze today, release March 29. That would explain the mass of updates I saw last night and this morning :-) Will a dedicated 1.91 testing tree be created or will we continue to pull from the rawhide tree? -Rick -- Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - rjohnson at medata.com Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc. PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc From jim at jbsys.com Wed Mar 17 18:39:17 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:39:17 -0700 Subject: FastTrak Driver for X86_64 Message-ID: <002a01c40c4f$27f3df20$0a01a8c0@jbsys> I have a ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard with a Promise PDC 20378 Raid controller. I have 2 160GB IDE drives attached. I am running Raid 0 and I can see them from Win2K. The driver for Linux that came with the card is for 2.4.20-8 and I want to use FC2 Test1 system. Where can I find a kernel with support for this device? Or source? Or modules? Or? I would also like to run on FC1. From mharris at redhat.com Wed Mar 17 18:51:07 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:51:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sandy Pond wrote: >So, I noticed the Xorg server on rawhide ... so what's the story. The short story, is that XFree86 is being replaced by The X.org Foundation X11 implementation, which currently includes all of the parts of XFree86 4.4.0 which are not affected by the recent XFree86 license version 1.1. For the most part, users won't notice the difference between the two X11 implementations for the initial release. >The XFree server is still the default. We're working on that currently. Also note that the X.org X server has not yet been renamed to it's final name, and that more changes are pending as Fedora Core 2 approaches. I'll be posting updates about this over time also. >Can Xorg server be installed in parallel for testing? No, it is an all or nothing deal basically. People either continue to use XFree86 4.3.0 and thus not test xorg, so less bugs get fixed in the X.org stuff that we will end up shipping, or people upgrade wholesale to the new X.org stuff and start using it and reporting bugs so we can get it into shape for Fedora Core 2. ;o) The other option, is for someone else to go and package XFree86 4.4.0 themselves which the previous posting to this list indicates someone has already done. Note however that we do not support 4.4.0, and will not support systems that are using it. Once X.org has finished churning, there's really no good reason to use XFree86 4.4.0 for the majority of people out there anyway, so that's not going to be a problem. At this stage however, it should be noted that the current xorg-x11 rpm packages that have just been placed into rawhide are extremely brand new (xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.4), and it wasn't until about 4am EST last night that I worked out the majority of the rpm upgrade dependancy issues. This morning some more issues were reported internally and I've fixed them. The new packages just built as: xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5.src.rpm There almost certainly will be various problems discovered with respect to rpm upgrades, etc. however the packages have now reached the point where they are ready for public testing consumption. I look forward to hearing people's good/bad success/failure reports, and any problems that arise being filed in bugzilla with as many details as possible. I recommend that anyone doing the upgrade from XFree86 4.3.0 to xorg-x11 by hand, should run: rpm -qa > rpm-before-xorg.txt Then after upgrading do: rpm -qa > rpm-after-xorg.txt Also, either redirect the output of your rpm upgrade command, or apt/yum/up2date into a text file, in case there are errors or problems occur. Be sure to include these logs and/or screenshots of the upgrade attempts in your bug reports, as that will help very much to fix the dependancy problems that haven't been found yet. On the good news side of things, there were only about 23 rpm packages in the distribution that needed to be fixed! Some things I learned in the process: - Some packages have bogus dependancies on "XFree86-libs" in packages in order to ensure the X libraries are installed. Do not do this - rpm's find-requires script does this automatically for all packages and in a manner that doesn't hard code the package name needed to supply the libs. - Some packages have BuildRequires: XFree86-libs instead, or in addition to BuildRequires: XFree86-devel. Do not do this. Only put the dependancy on XFree86-devel. The XFree86-devel package itself requires XFree86-libs, so there is no need to overstate dependancies, as it just creates problems in times like this. - Many font related packages Require or BuildRequire "XFree86-xfs", which at one point in time was to ensure mkfontdir is installed. Don't do this, instead make the dependancy directly on the mkfontdir binary, or simply on "mkfontdir". I will add a new virtual provides to the package containing mkfontdir to make this easier. - Some packages had a hard coded dependancy on "XFree86" because it was felt the package should require XFree86 because it was a graphical X11 application or library. lesstif being an example of a library that did this. Don't do this, because there really is not a need for the XFree86 package to be installed if only running applications remotely. Basically, any application that hard codes a dependancy on "XFree86-" is about to get burned badly as XFree86- vanishes. ;o) In the mean time, I have set up some virtual provides in order to minimize problems for the immediate future. All packages which require X development headers, should for the time being CONTINUE to BuildRequires: XFree86-devel, as i have put a virtual provide in the xorg-x11-devel subpackage of: Provides: XFree86-devel = 4.4.0 That interim measure should suffice to put out some fires for now. Additionally, I have added new virtual provides to various other packages. If a package needs xdm/twm/base-fonts or other similar packages, instead of doing: Requires: XFree86-xdm or Requires: xorg-xdm instead do: Requires: xdm That makes it easier for rpm packages out there to work with different X11 implementations. Note that the implementation nonspecific virtual provides, are intentionally versionless. My feeling is that, if some application for example requires a specific version of xdm/base-fonts/twm or other packages, then it is probably an implementation specific requirement rather than a generic one, and so such packages should indeed have hard coded dependancies on the specific implementation-version instead of using the generic dependancies. Anyhow, that's a brief summary of recent X11 events in the oven. I welcome public feedback and comments, preferably to the mailing list, as I prefer to have feedback be public rather than private, so that others can further comment as well. Be sure to leveredge bugzilla also! Thanks everyone for testing Fedora devel! -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed Mar 17 19:16:46 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:16:46 +0100 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4058A41E.50807@gmx.de> Neal D. Becker wrote: >OK, so what do I do exactly? I assume the fix is now in place. I see there >is a new cyrus-sasl-0-2.1.18. I guess that's what you meant? > >But yum update does: >.Package mutt needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package mutt needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package freeradius needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package freeradius needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package openh323 needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package openh323 needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package pwlib needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package pwlib needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package pwlib-devel needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package pwlib-devel needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package squid needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. >Package squid needs libsasl.so.7, this is not available. > $ date -u Mi M?r 17 19:11:46 UTC 2004 # rpm -q squid squid-2.5.STABLE5-1 # yum update squid Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers squid is installed and the latest version. No actions to take # yum update mutt cyrus* Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies Dependencies resolved I will do the following: [update: cyrus-sasl-devel 2.1.18-2.i386] [update: mutt 5:1.4.1-6.i386] [update: cyrus-sasl 2.1.18-2.i386] [update: cyrus-sasl-md5 2.1.18-2.i386] [update: cyrus-sasl-plain 2.1.18-2.i386] [update: cyrus-imapd 2.2.3-7.i386] Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages Getting cyrus-sasl-devel-2.1.18-2.i386.rpm cyrus-sasl-devel-2.1.18-2 100% |=========================| 1.3 MB 00:15 Getting mutt-1.4.1-6.i386.rpm mutt-1.4.1-6.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 1.1 MB 00:13 Getting cyrus-sasl-2.1.18-2.i386.rpm cyrus-sasl-2.1.18-2.i386. 100% |=========================| 1.2 MB 00:14 Getting cyrus-sasl-md5-2.1.18-2.i386.rpm cyrus-sasl-md5-2.1.18-2.i 100% |=========================| 55 kB 00:01 Getting cyrus-sasl-plain-2.1.18-2.i386.rpm cyrus-sasl-plain-2.1.18-2 100% |=========================| 26 kB 00:00 Getting cyrus-imapd-2.2.3-7.i386.rpm cyrus-imapd-2.2.3-7.i386. 100% |=========================| 6.1 MB 01:11 Running test transaction: /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Test transaction complete, Success! /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden cyrus-sasl 100 % done 1/12 cyrus-sasl-devel 100 % done 2/12 mutt 100 % done 3/12 cyrus-sasl-md5 100 % done 4/12 cyrus-sasl-plain 100 % done 5/12 cyrus-imapd 100 % done 6/12 Completing update for cyrus-sasl-devel - 7/12 Completing update for mutt - 8/12 Completing update for cyrus-sasl - 9/12 Completing update for cyrus-sasl-md5 - 10/12 Completing update for cyrus-sasl-plain - 11/12 Completing update for cyrus-imapd - 12/12 Updated: cyrus-sasl-devel 2.1.18-2.i386 mutt 5:1.4.1-6.i386 cyrus-sasl 2.1.18-2.i386 cyrus-sasl-md5 2.1.18-2.i386 cyrus-sasl-plain 2.1.18-2.i386 cyrus-imapd 2.2.3-7.i386 Transaction(s) Complete -- shrek-m From michal at harddata.com Wed Mar 17 19:37:36 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:37:36 -0700 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: <4058A41E.50807@gmx.de>; from shrek-m@gmx.de on Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 08:16:46PM +0100 References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4058A41E.50807@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20040317123736.A32758@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 08:16:46PM +0100, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > I will do the following: > [update: cyrus-sasl-devel 2.1.18-2.i386] > [update: mutt 5:1.4.1-6.i386] > [update: cyrus-sasl 2.1.18-2.i386] ^^^^ This seems to be the clincher. AFAICS so far various mirrors around have only cyrus-sasl 2.1.18-1 (and other related packages at ^^^ the same version level) from "Mon 15 Mar 2004". With these mutt will not even recompile, unless "manually coaxed" :-), as they provide only 'libsasl2' while 'libsasl' is expected. Once 2.1.18-2 will propagate everything should be fine. In the meantime mutt-1.4.1-6 seems to be working if you will cheat and create in /usr/lib a symlink or two. :-) Yes, yum will be unhappy. Michal From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Wed Mar 17 19:40:38 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:40:38 +0100 Subject: yum: conflict between qmail-run and exim Message-ID: <1079552438.6833.8.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> Hi folks, when I run "yum update" I get this: Resolving dependencies ..conflict between qmail-run and exim "rpm -qa qmail-run" returns this qmail-run-11.07-001memphis I have a selfmade qmail running and I don?t want to risk my configuration by removing the rpm entry. Exim is not installed. I have no idea what package is causing this dependency!? Another bleeding edge I guess ;-) Regards, Chris From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 19:59:58 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:59:58 -0500 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: <20040317123736.A32758@mail.harddata.com> References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <4058A41E.50807@gmx.de> <20040317123736.A32758@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <200403171459.58531.ndbecker2@verizon.net> On Wednesday 17 March 2004 2:37 pm, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 08:16:46PM +0100, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > I will do the following: > > [update: cyrus-sasl-devel 2.1.18-2.i386] > > [update: mutt 5:1.4.1-6.i386] > > [update: cyrus-sasl 2.1.18-2.i386] > > ^^^^ > Yum is updating now... From ere at webedge.dk Wed Mar 17 20:05:41 2004 From: ere at webedge.dk (Erik Reuter) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:05:41 +0100 Subject: When does up2date time out? Message-ID: <4058AF95.4050303@webedge.dk> I tried running up2date (gui) against a mirror server of mine today, which was down. up2date just went to sleep... Is there some buildin timeout that's just a wee bit too long or does it stall indefinately? Regards Erik From twanger at bluetwanger.de Wed Mar 17 20:07:08 2004 From: twanger at bluetwanger.de (Markus Bertheau) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:07:08 +0100 Subject: postgresql-7.4.2-1 and fedora core 2 test In-Reply-To: <40581A82.9090403@filmakademie.de> References: <40581A82.9090403@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <1079554028.1996.2.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> ? ???, 17.03.2004, ? 10:29, G?tz Reinicke ?????: > Hi, > > I'd tried to install OGO on my Testserver, but it failed because I > forgot to install postgresql. > > I downloaded the latest postgresql-*7.4.2-1, but couldn't start the server. > > [root at salvatore data]# /etc/init.d/postgresql start > Datenbank initialisieren: [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] > postgresql Service starten: [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] > > The Core 1 postgresql-7.3.4-11-out-of-the-box-installation worked on a > different server. > > Any ideas?? Find this line in /etc/init.d/postgresql su -l postgres -c "/usr/bin/initdb --pgdata=$PGDATA > /dev/null 2>&1" < /dev/null and change it to su -l postgres -c "/usr/bin/initdb --pgdata=$PGDATA > /var/log/pgsql 2>&1" < /dev/null then find this line su -l postgres -c "/usr/bin/pg_ctl -D $PGDATA -p /usr/bin/postmaster -o '-p ${PGPORT} ${PGOPTS}' start > /dev/null 2>&1" < /dev/null and change it to su -l postgres -c "/usr/bin/pg_ctl -D $PGDATA -p /usr/bin/postmaster -o '-p ${PGPORT} ${PGOPTS}' start > /var/log/pgsql 2>&1" < /dev/null then look in /var/log/pgsql for the error messages. -- Markus Bertheau From p1374953 at cedarville.edu Wed Mar 17 20:25:39 2004 From: p1374953 at cedarville.edu (Timothy Ryan Bierer) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:25:39 -0500 Subject: up2date doesn't play nice with proxy servers? In-Reply-To: <20040317165131.GE28034@lichen.truemesh.com> References: <40587F71.5050803@cedarville.edu> <20040317165131.GE28034@lichen.truemesh.com> Message-ID: <4058B443.2020708@cedarville.edu> Paul Nasrat wrote: >On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:40:17AM -0500, Timothy Ryan Bierer wrote: > > >>Up2date seems to be having a hard time getting through our proxy. The >>related websites and such are not blocked by the institution, and I was >>wondering if anybody else was having that problem/how they fixed it. >>Thanks! >> >> > >You may be hit by https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102272 > >as root (so don't go via consolehelper) >export http_proxy=http://my.proxy:3128 >up2date -u > >Paul > > > > That bug is the culprit. Here's what I get when imputing export http_proxy=etc: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? sys.exit(main() or 0) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 797, in main fullUpdate, dryRun=options.dry_run)) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1141, in batchRun batch.run() File "up2dateBatch.py", line 62, in run File "up2dateBatch.py", line 97, in __findPackagesToUpdate File "packageList.py", line 157, in addGlobs File "rhnPackageInfo.py", line 219, in getAvailablePackageList File "rhnPackageInfo.py", line 130, in availablePackageList File "rhnChannel.py", line 212, in getChannels File "rhnChannel.py", line 129, in getMirror File "urlMirrors.py", line 90, in getMirrors File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/urlUtils.py", line 117, in open_resource return opener.open(request) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 326, in open '_open', req) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 901, in http_open return self.do_open(httplib.HTTP, req) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 895, in do_open return self.parent.error('http', req, fp, code, msg, hdrs) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 346, in error result = self._call_chain(*args) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/urlUtils.py", line 33, in http_error_302 infourl = urllib2.HTTPRedirectHandler.http_error_302(self, req, fp, code, msg, headers) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 472, in http_error_302 return self.parent.open(new) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 326, in open '_open', req) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 908, in https_open return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPS, req) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 884, in do_open h.endheaders() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 712, in endheaders self._send_output() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 597, in _send_output self.send(msg) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 564, in send self.connect() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 985, in connect ssl = socket.ssl(sock, self.key_file, self.cert_file) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 73, in ssl return _realssl(sock, keyfile, certfile) socket.sslerror: (8, 'EOF occurred in violation of protocol') [root at pc174157 root]# export http_proxy=http://proxy1.cedarville.edu:8080 [root at pc174157 root]# up2date --get http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? sys.exit(main() or 0) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 705, in main return getPackages(pkgNames) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1016, in getPackages progressCallback = wrapperUtils.percent) File "rhnPackageInfo.py", line 263, in getAllAvailableAllArchPackageList File "rhnPackageInfo.py", line 176, in allAvailablePackageList File "repoDirector.py", line 61, in initRepoDirector File "repoDirector.py", line 17, in __init__ File "rhnChannel.py", line 212, in getChannels File "rhnChannel.py", line 129, in getMirror File "urlMirrors.py", line 90, in getMirrors File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/urlUtils.py", line 117, in open_resource return opener.open(request) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 326, in open '_open', req) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 901, in http_open return self.do_open(httplib.HTTP, req) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 895, in do_open return self.parent.error('http', req, fp, code, msg, hdrs) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 346, in error result = self._call_chain(*args) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/urlUtils.py", line 33, in http_error_302 infourl = urllib2.HTTPRedirectHandler.http_error_302(self, req, fp, code, msg, headers) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 472, in http_error_302 return self.parent.open(new) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 326, in open '_open', req) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 908, in https_open return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPS, req) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 884, in do_open h.endheaders() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 712, in endheaders self._send_output() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 597, in _send_output self.send(msg) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 564, in send self.connect() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 985, in connect ssl = socket.ssl(sock, self.key_file, self.cert_file) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 73, in ssl return _realssl(sock, keyfile, certfile) socket.sslerror: (8, 'EOF occurred in violation of protocol') Is that still the bug at work, or just a picky server? From linuxnow at newtral.org Wed Mar 17 20:24:35 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:24:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sandy Pond wrote: > > >So, I noticed the Xorg server on rawhide ... so what's the story. > The other option, is for someone else to go and package XFree86 > 4.4.0 themselves which the previous posting to this list > indicates someone has already done. Note however that we do not > support 4.4.0, and will not support systems that are using it. I was the one that packed XFree86-4.4.0 becasuse I need support for the Mobility Radeon 9600 M10. If that support is going to be included in the new implementation, I'll gladly test it until it works. Should xorg work in this card in the x86_64 platform? Pau From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Wed Mar 17 20:33:23 2004 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:33:23 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: <4058B613.30706@atl.lmco.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike A. Harris wrote: | On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sandy Pond wrote: | | |>So, I noticed the Xorg server on rawhide ... so what's the story. | | | The short story, is that XFree86 is being replaced by The X.org | Foundation X11 implementation, which currently includes all of | the parts of XFree86 4.4.0 which are not affected by the recent | XFree86 license version 1.1. For the most part, users won't | notice the difference between the two X11 implementations for the | initial release. | | |>The XFree server is still the default. | | | We're working on that currently. Also note that the X.org X | server has not yet been renamed to it's final name, and that more | changes are pending as Fedora Core 2 approaches. I'll be posting | updates about this over time also. | | |>Can Xorg server be installed in parallel for testing? | | | No, it is an all or nothing deal basically. People either | continue to use XFree86 4.3.0 and thus not test xorg, so less | bugs get fixed in the X.org stuff that we will end up shipping, | or people upgrade wholesale to the new X.org stuff and start | using it and reporting bugs so we can get it into shape for | Fedora Core 2. ;o) | | The other option, is for someone else to go and package XFree86 | 4.4.0 themselves which the previous posting to this list | indicates someone has already done. Note however that we do not | support 4.4.0, and will not support systems that are using it. | | Once X.org has finished churning, there's really no good reason | to use XFree86 4.4.0 for the majority of people out there anyway, | so that's not going to be a problem. | | At this stage however, it should be noted that the current | xorg-x11 rpm packages that have just been placed into rawhide are | extremely brand new (xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.4), and it | wasn't until about 4am EST last night that I worked out the | majority of the rpm upgrade dependancy issues. | | This morning some more issues were reported internally and I've | fixed them. The new packages just built as: | | xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5.src.rpm | | There almost certainly will be various problems discovered with | respect to rpm upgrades, etc. however the packages have now | reached the point where they are ready for public testing | consumption. | | I look forward to hearing people's good/bad success/failure | reports, and any problems that arise being filed in bugzilla with | as many details as possible. I recommend that anyone doing the | upgrade from XFree86 4.3.0 to xorg-x11 by hand, should run: | | rpm -qa > rpm-before-xorg.txt | | Then after upgrading do: | | rpm -qa > rpm-after-xorg.txt | | Also, either redirect the output of your rpm upgrade command, or | apt/yum/up2date into a text file, in case there are errors or | problems occur. Be sure to include these logs and/or screenshots | of the upgrade attempts in your bug reports, as that will help | very much to fix the dependancy problems that haven't been found | yet. | | On the good news side of things, there were only about 23 rpm | packages in the distribution that needed to be fixed! | | Some things I learned in the process: | | - Some packages have bogus dependancies on "XFree86-libs" in | packages in order to ensure the X libraries are installed. Do | not do this - rpm's find-requires script does this | automatically for all packages and in a manner that doesn't | hard code the package name needed to supply the libs. | | - Some packages have BuildRequires: XFree86-libs instead, or in | addition to BuildRequires: XFree86-devel. Do not do this. | Only put the dependancy on XFree86-devel. The XFree86-devel | package itself requires XFree86-libs, so there is no need to | overstate dependancies, as it just creates problems in times | like this. | | - Many font related packages Require or BuildRequire | "XFree86-xfs", which at one point in time was to ensure | mkfontdir is installed. Don't do this, instead make the | dependancy directly on the mkfontdir binary, or simply on | "mkfontdir". I will add a new virtual provides to the package | containing mkfontdir to make this easier. | | - Some packages had a hard coded dependancy on "XFree86" because | it was felt the package should require XFree86 because it was a | graphical X11 application or library. lesstif being an example | of a library that did this. Don't do this, because there | really is not a need for the XFree86 package to be installed if | only running applications remotely. | | Basically, any application that hard codes a dependancy on | "XFree86-" is about to get burned badly as | XFree86- vanishes. ;o) In the mean time, I have set | up some virtual provides in order to minimize problems for the | immediate future. | | All packages which require X development headers, should for the | time being CONTINUE to BuildRequires: XFree86-devel, as i have | put a virtual provide in the xorg-x11-devel subpackage of: | | Provides: XFree86-devel = 4.4.0 | | That interim measure should suffice to put out some fires for | now. | | Additionally, I have added new virtual provides to various other | packages. If a package needs xdm/twm/base-fonts or other similar | packages, instead of doing: | | Requires: XFree86-xdm or Requires: xorg-xdm | | instead do: | | Requires: xdm | | That makes it easier for rpm packages out there to work with | different X11 implementations. Note that the implementation | nonspecific virtual provides, are intentionally versionless. My | feeling is that, if some application for example requires a | specific version of xdm/base-fonts/twm or other packages, then it | is probably an implementation specific requirement rather than a | generic one, and so such packages should indeed have hard coded | dependancies on the specific implementation-version instead of | using the generic dependancies. | | Anyhow, that's a brief summary of recent X11 events in the oven. | | I welcome public feedback and comments, preferably to the mailing | list, as I prefer to have feedback be public rather than private, | so that others can further comment as well. | | Be sure to leveredge bugzilla also! | | Thanks everyone for testing Fedora devel! | What about those using nVidia/ATI binary drivers? What will the implications be for 3d acceleration? I just got UT2k4, don't tell me I won't be able to play it under X.org... - -- - ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAWLYTN50Q8DVvcvkRAhZrAJ9MMy8WXemYChbWVjqsPxLVML6xmACfZLoO DJdA2IySYMjUDvqBfwqXudo= =NkhI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From whb at ceimaine.org Wed Mar 17 20:37:52 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:37:52 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <4058B613.30706@atl.lmco.com> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <4058B613.30706@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <1079555872.10745.50.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 15:33, Doug Stewart wrote: > > What about those using nVidia/ATI binary drivers? What will the > implications be for 3d acceleration? > > I just got UT2k4, don't tell me I won't be able to play it under X.org... > RedHat has always had a good history of supporting open/free software. The latest XFree86 seems to not fit in. Just like MP3. Yes, this is a pain for the end user, but I applaud the stand that RedHat is taking. -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Wed Mar 17 20:41:27 2004 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:41:27 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <1079555872.10745.50.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <4058B613.30706@atl.lmco.com> <1079555872.10745.50.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <4058B7F7.6040605@atl.lmco.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Will Backman wrote: | On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 15:33, Doug Stewart wrote: | | |>What about those using nVidia/ATI binary drivers? What will the |>implications be for 3d acceleration? |> |>I just got UT2k4, don't tell me I won't be able to play it under X.org... |> | | | RedHat has always had a good history of supporting open/free software. | The latest XFree86 seems to not fit in. Just like MP3. Yes, this is a | pain for the end user, but I applaud the stand that RedHat is taking. Shazbot! Anyone contacted nVidia about morphing their drivers to fit X.org's server? - -- - ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAWLf3N50Q8DVvcvkRAo4kAJ96fhORGF0szjSLmCq5P0K7zgCLbQCfe87g mls2GJTrHPHmlIAhmFhufOg= =6YoN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From yonasb at netzero.com Wed Mar 17 20:48:38 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonas abraham) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:48:38 -0500 Subject: Package kdeaddons needs libkabinterfaces.so.1 In-Reply-To: <4058B7F7.6040605@atl.lmco.com> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <4058B613.30706@atl.lmco.com> <1079555872.10745.50.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <4058B7F7.6040605@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <4058B9A6.3040407@netzero.com> yum update returned the ff error msg. Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Package kdeaddons needs libkabinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. Package kdeaddons needs libkabinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. Package kdeaddons needs libkdepim.so.1, this is not available. Package kdeaddons needs libkdepim.so.1, this is not available. Package kdeaddons needs libkpinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. Package kdeaddons needs libkpinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. Package kdepim-devel needs kdepim = 6:3.2.1-2, this is not available. is this mean I had to remove kdeaddons and kdepim-devel to update ? From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 21:22:57 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:22:57 -0500 Subject: XFree86-4.3.0-64 + kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 = lockup Message-ID: Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: [drm] Initialized mga 3.1.0 20021029 on minor 0 Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:02:00.0 into 1x mode Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm: :0[18514]: IO Error in XOpenDisplay Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm[18499]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm[18499]: Display :0 cannot be opened Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm[18499]: Unable to fire up local display :0; disabling. At this point my keyboard was dead and I had to hit reset Reboot with kernel-2.6.1-1.65 was OK. Except: I noticed that there weren't messages about recovering the journal for my root, instead, it just said it was clean. Seems odd. From sflory at rackable.com Wed Mar 17 21:53:15 2004 From: sflory at rackable.com (Samuel Flory) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:53:15 -0800 Subject: FastTrak Driver for X86_64 In-Reply-To: <002a01c40c4f$27f3df20$0a01a8c0@jbsys> References: <002a01c40c4f$27f3df20$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Message-ID: <4058C8CB.1010900@rackable.com> James C. Bevier wrote: > I have a ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard with > a Promise PDC 20378 Raid controller. I have 2 > 160GB IDE drives attached. I am running Raid 0 > and I can see them from Win2K. The driver for > Linux that came with the card is for 2.4.20-8 and > I want to use FC2 Test1 system. Where can I find > a kernel with support for this device? Or source? > Or modules? Or? I would also like to run on FC1. > > The fasttrak driver is only availble as a binary module. You will need to talke to Promise to get an updated driver. FYI- If promise is doing what it's always done. There might be a FC 1 driver in 6 months. Maybe -- There is no such thing as obsolete hardware. Merely hardware that other people don't want. (The Second Rule of Hardware Acquisition) Sam Flory From sflory at rackable.com Wed Mar 17 21:58:05 2004 From: sflory at rackable.com (Samuel Flory) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:58:05 -0800 Subject: FastTrak Driver for X86_64 In-Reply-To: <4058C8CB.1010900@rackable.com> References: <002a01c40c4f$27f3df20$0a01a8c0@jbsys> <4058C8CB.1010900@rackable.com> Message-ID: <4058C9ED.4010401@rackable.com> Samuel Flory wrote: > James C. Bevier wrote: > >> I have a ASUS K8V SE Deluxe motherboard with >> a Promise PDC 20378 Raid controller. I have 2 >> 160GB IDE drives attached. I am running Raid 0 >> and I can see them from Win2K. The driver for >> Linux that came with the card is for 2.4.20-8 and >> I want to use FC2 Test1 system. Where can I find >> a kernel with support for this device? Or source? >> Or modules? Or? I would also like to run on FC1. >> >> > > The fasttrak driver is only availble as a binary module. You will > need to talke to Promise to get an updated driver. > > FYI- If promise is doing what it's always done. There might be a FC 1 > driver in 6 months. Maybe Ohh wait you wanted a driver for amd64. Realize that promise doesn't currently provide a driver for any amd64 OS. Which has pissed off a number of vendors who've embedded the chispet on their amd64 motherboards. At this point you'd be better off hoping that someone will port the ataraid driver to 2.6. -- There is no such thing as obsolete hardware. Merely hardware that other people don't want. (The Second Rule of Hardware Acquisition) Sam Flory From netopml at newview.com Wed Mar 17 22:06:13 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 17 Mar 2004 17:06:13 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: mharris at redhat.com ("Mike A. Harris") writes: > I look forward to hearing people's good/bad success/failure > reports, and any problems that arise being filed in bugzilla with > as many details as possible. I will bugzilla the following later (against which package?) but so far, the upgrade on 2 computers (a desktop and a laptop) was pretty easy. I had conflicts with openoffice and ttmkfdir and fonts-ja: XFree86-font-utils < 4.2.99.2-0.20021126.3 conflicts with ttmkfdir-3.0.9-10 XFree86 is needed by (installed) openoffice.org-1.1.0-30 XFree86-75dpi-fonts is needed by (installed) fonts-ja-8.0-11 No big deal. I ran rpm with --nodeps But after it was done, the /usr/X11R6/lib was gone from /etc/ld.so.conf so I had a problem loading dynamic libraries meaning X wouldn't start. I put it back there, ran ldconfig and I was almost back in business except I had to restart xfs (service xfs restart, I guess the post install in the rpm should do that). That was it, took less than 5 minutes: great job... -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From pbender at qualcomm.com Wed Mar 17 22:10:26 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:10:26 -0800 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: <4058CCD2.3030103@qualcomm.com> On my system, I upgraded the XFree86 RPMs with the corresponding xorg-x11*-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5.i386.rpm RPMs. In the process, I had a few problems getting them to install and start. (1) openoffice.org-1.1.0-30 had a dependency problem on XFree86. I got past this by removing openoffice.org. (2) xauth could not find libXmuu and xinit could not find libX11. I got past this by adding /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and running ldconfig. (3) xfs did not start automatically. I got past this by running "xfs -droppriv -daemon" manually. After that it started. Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sandy Pond wrote: > > >>So, I noticed the Xorg server on rawhide ... so what's the story. > > > The short story, is that XFree86 is being replaced by The X.org > Foundation X11 implementation, which currently includes all of > the parts of XFree86 4.4.0 which are not affected by the recent > XFree86 license version 1.1. For the most part, users won't > notice the difference between the two X11 implementations for the > initial release. > > >>The XFree server is still the default. > > > We're working on that currently. Also note that the X.org X > server has not yet been renamed to it's final name, and that more > changes are pending as Fedora Core 2 approaches. I'll be posting > updates about this over time also. > > >>Can Xorg server be installed in parallel for testing? > > > No, it is an all or nothing deal basically. People either > continue to use XFree86 4.3.0 and thus not test xorg, so less > bugs get fixed in the X.org stuff that we will end up shipping, > or people upgrade wholesale to the new X.org stuff and start > using it and reporting bugs so we can get it into shape for > Fedora Core 2. ;o) > > The other option, is for someone else to go and package XFree86 > 4.4.0 themselves which the previous posting to this list > indicates someone has already done. Note however that we do not > support 4.4.0, and will not support systems that are using it. > > Once X.org has finished churning, there's really no good reason > to use XFree86 4.4.0 for the majority of people out there anyway, > so that's not going to be a problem. > > At this stage however, it should be noted that the current > xorg-x11 rpm packages that have just been placed into rawhide are > extremely brand new (xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.4), and it > wasn't until about 4am EST last night that I worked out the > majority of the rpm upgrade dependancy issues. > > This morning some more issues were reported internally and I've > fixed them. The new packages just built as: > > xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5.src.rpm > > There almost certainly will be various problems discovered with > respect to rpm upgrades, etc. however the packages have now > reached the point where they are ready for public testing > consumption. > > I look forward to hearing people's good/bad success/failure > reports, and any problems that arise being filed in bugzilla with > as many details as possible. I recommend that anyone doing the > upgrade from XFree86 4.3.0 to xorg-x11 by hand, should run: > > rpm -qa > rpm-before-xorg.txt > > Then after upgrading do: > > rpm -qa > rpm-after-xorg.txt > > Also, either redirect the output of your rpm upgrade command, or > apt/yum/up2date into a text file, in case there are errors or > problems occur. Be sure to include these logs and/or screenshots > of the upgrade attempts in your bug reports, as that will help > very much to fix the dependancy problems that haven't been found > yet. > > On the good news side of things, there were only about 23 rpm > packages in the distribution that needed to be fixed! > > Some things I learned in the process: > > - Some packages have bogus dependancies on "XFree86-libs" in > packages in order to ensure the X libraries are installed. Do > not do this - rpm's find-requires script does this > automatically for all packages and in a manner that doesn't > hard code the package name needed to supply the libs. > > - Some packages have BuildRequires: XFree86-libs instead, or in > addition to BuildRequires: XFree86-devel. Do not do this. > Only put the dependancy on XFree86-devel. The XFree86-devel > package itself requires XFree86-libs, so there is no need to > overstate dependancies, as it just creates problems in times > like this. > > - Many font related packages Require or BuildRequire > "XFree86-xfs", which at one point in time was to ensure > mkfontdir is installed. Don't do this, instead make the > dependancy directly on the mkfontdir binary, or simply on > "mkfontdir". I will add a new virtual provides to the package > containing mkfontdir to make this easier. > > - Some packages had a hard coded dependancy on "XFree86" because > it was felt the package should require XFree86 because it was a > graphical X11 application or library. lesstif being an example > of a library that did this. Don't do this, because there > really is not a need for the XFree86 package to be installed if > only running applications remotely. > > Basically, any application that hard codes a dependancy on > "XFree86-" is about to get burned badly as > XFree86- vanishes. ;o) In the mean time, I have set > up some virtual provides in order to minimize problems for the > immediate future. > > All packages which require X development headers, should for the > time being CONTINUE to BuildRequires: XFree86-devel, as i have > put a virtual provide in the xorg-x11-devel subpackage of: > > Provides: XFree86-devel = 4.4.0 > > That interim measure should suffice to put out some fires for > now. > > Additionally, I have added new virtual provides to various other > packages. If a package needs xdm/twm/base-fonts or other similar > packages, instead of doing: > > Requires: XFree86-xdm or Requires: xorg-xdm > > instead do: > > Requires: xdm > > That makes it easier for rpm packages out there to work with > different X11 implementations. Note that the implementation > nonspecific virtual provides, are intentionally versionless. My > feeling is that, if some application for example requires a > specific version of xdm/base-fonts/twm or other packages, then it > is probably an implementation specific requirement rather than a > generic one, and so such packages should indeed have hard coded > dependancies on the specific implementation-version instead of > using the generic dependancies. > > Anyhow, that's a brief summary of recent X11 events in the oven. > > I welcome public feedback and comments, preferably to the mailing > list, as I prefer to have feedback be public rather than private, > so that others can further comment as well. > > Be sure to leveredge bugzilla also! > > Thanks everyone for testing Fedora devel! > From p1374953 at cedarville.edu Wed Mar 17 22:18:02 2004 From: p1374953 at cedarville.edu (Timothy Ryan Bierer) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:18:02 -0500 Subject: up2date doesn't play nice with proxy servers? In-Reply-To: <4058B443.2020708@cedarville.edu> References: <40587F71.5050803@cedarville.edu> <20040317165131.GE28034@lichen.truemesh.com> <4058B443.2020708@cedarville.edu> Message-ID: <4058CE9A.5040209@cedarville.edu> Timothy Ryan Bierer wrote: > Paul Nasrat wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:40:17AM -0500, Timothy Ryan Bierer wrote: >> >> >>> Up2date seems to be having a hard time getting through our proxy. >>> The related websites and such are not blocked by the institution, >>> and I was wondering if anybody else was having that problem/how they >>> fixed it. Thanks! >>> >> >> >> You may be hit by >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102272 >> >> as root (so don't go via consolehelper) >> export http_proxy=http://my.proxy:3128 up2date -u >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> > That bug is the culprit. Here's what I get when imputing export > http_proxy=etc: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? > sys.exit(main() or 0) > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 797, in main > fullUpdate, dryRun=options.dry_run)) > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1141, in batchRun > batch.run() > File "up2dateBatch.py", line 62, in run > File "up2dateBatch.py", line 97, in __findPackagesToUpdate > File "packageList.py", line 157, in addGlobs > File "rhnPackageInfo.py", line 219, in getAvailablePackageList > File "rhnPackageInfo.py", line 130, in availablePackageList > File "rhnChannel.py", line 212, in getChannels > File "rhnChannel.py", line 129, in getMirror > File "urlMirrors.py", line 90, in getMirrors > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/urlUtils.py", line > 117, in open_resource > return opener.open(request) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 326, in open > '_open', req) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain > result = func(*args) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 901, in http_open > return self.do_open(httplib.HTTP, req) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 895, in do_open > return self.parent.error('http', req, fp, code, msg, hdrs) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 346, in error > result = self._call_chain(*args) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain > result = func(*args) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/urlUtils.py", line > 33, in http_error_302 > infourl = urllib2.HTTPRedirectHandler.http_error_302(self, req, fp, > code, msg, headers) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 472, in http_error_302 > return self.parent.open(new) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 326, in open > '_open', req) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain > result = func(*args) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 908, in https_open > return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPS, req) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 884, in do_open > h.endheaders() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 712, in endheaders > self._send_output() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 597, in _send_output > self.send(msg) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 564, in send > self.connect() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 985, in connect > ssl = socket.ssl(sock, self.key_file, self.cert_file) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 73, in ssl > return _realssl(sock, keyfile, certfile) > socket.sslerror: (8, 'EOF occurred in violation of protocol') > [root at pc174157 root]# export http_proxy=http://proxy1.cedarville.edu:8080 > [root at pc174157 root]# up2date --get > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1267, in ? > sys.exit(main() or 0) > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 705, in main > return getPackages(pkgNames) > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1016, in getPackages > progressCallback = wrapperUtils.percent) > File "rhnPackageInfo.py", line 263, in getAllAvailableAllArchPackageList > File "rhnPackageInfo.py", line 176, in allAvailablePackageList > File "repoDirector.py", line 61, in initRepoDirector > File "repoDirector.py", line 17, in __init__ > File "rhnChannel.py", line 212, in getChannels > File "rhnChannel.py", line 129, in getMirror > File "urlMirrors.py", line 90, in getMirrors > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/urlUtils.py", line > 117, in open_resource > return opener.open(request) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 326, in open > '_open', req) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain > result = func(*args) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 901, in http_open > return self.do_open(httplib.HTTP, req) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 895, in do_open > return self.parent.error('http', req, fp, code, msg, hdrs) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 346, in error > result = self._call_chain(*args) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain > result = func(*args) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/urlUtils.py", line > 33, in http_error_302 > infourl = urllib2.HTTPRedirectHandler.http_error_302(self, req, fp, > code, msg, headers) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 472, in http_error_302 > return self.parent.open(new) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 326, in open > '_open', req) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 306, in _call_chain > result = func(*args) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 908, in https_open > return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPS, req) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/urllib2.py", line 884, in do_open > h.endheaders() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 712, in endheaders > self._send_output() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 597, in _send_output > self.send(msg) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 564, in send > self.connect() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/httplib.py", line 985, in connect > ssl = socket.ssl(sock, self.key_file, self.cert_file) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 73, in ssl > return _realssl(sock, keyfile, certfile) > socket.sslerror: (8, 'EOF occurred in violation of protocol') > > Is that still the bug at work, or just a picky server? > > never mind... success! From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed Mar 17 22:18:13 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:18:13 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: <1079561892.29405.34.camel@study> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 13:51, Mike A. Harris wrote: > I welcome public feedback and comments, preferably to the mailing > list, as I prefer to have feedback be public rather than private, > so that others can further comment as well. > Don't know if you've found these so I won't bugzilla but here's a try with yum after todays rawhide update ... using xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.4.i386.rpm: # yum install xorg* Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .conflict between Glide3 and XFree86-libs conflict between ttmkfdir and XFree86-font-utils conflict between Glide3-devel and XFree86-devel Package openoffice.org needs XFree86, this is not available. I didn't bother removing any old XFree packages first. Should I be running "rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -qa | grep ^XFree)" first? :) From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed Mar 17 22:37:07 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:37:07 -0500 Subject: mutt and squid, removed because of dep problems, errors In-Reply-To: <1079536513.10584.9.camel@family> References: <4057988E.9060504@insight.rr.com> <20040317031941.GB31128@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4058479E.7020607@insight.rr.com> <1079536513.10584.9.camel@family> Message-ID: <4058D313.9000806@insight.rr.com> Sandy Pond wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 07:42 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Removing packages that have dep problems, is by no means a solution for >>resolving conflicts, with other programs. I don't think doing a nodep is >>a good practice either. > > > This is really a custom situation that depends on many things. > > >>For nautilus-media removal, it was more of a test to satisfy other media >>applications and on Sandy's detective work on pinning down >>nautilus-media as the offending application. > > > This is real easy if you use "yum provides " and "yum list > " after a dependency failure. Maybe yum could do a better job > of doing an automatic "provide" and "list" when it encounters a > dependency problem. > Having the program automatically showing which programs are holding back the newer installation of libraries or other programs sounds like it would help the average user. I found the conflicting newer programs but did not know that nautilus-media was the only program that was holding back the installation. I'll try the yum provides and list features for the next failure. Thanks! > >>If this wasn't a test process and things weren't changing so quickly. It >>would be better to submit a bug for the problems encountered. However, >>without the postings related to the conflicts, it is hard for people to >>know what is really going on. One problem, many solutions. >> > > > This is really a custom situation that depends on many things. > Agreed, I wouldn't remove libs or xfree to remove a minor conflict. > >>Regarding the mutt and squid conflict. I use mutt and don't think that I >>use squid. Removing this program was with much hesitation. >> > > > Case in point. > > :) > > From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed Mar 17 22:46:46 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:46:46 -0500 Subject: Release of test2 In-Reply-To: References: <1079538775.2214.1.camel@datacc> Message-ID: <4058D556.2040703@insight.rr.com> Pau Aliagas wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Elliot Lee wrote: > > >>On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, mike wrote: > > >>>Anyone any idea when test2 is being released > > >>Devel freeze today, release March 29. > > > Does it mean that the development directory we have now will, more or > less, be what will be included in test2? > > Pau > > The surprise is for all of us. After test 1 was releases, development packages were around 150+ newer versions. The developers are probably still working on stuff while the tree is frozen. (3D games perhaps. :-) Jim From lamont at gurulabs.com Wed Mar 17 22:57:21 2004 From: lamont at gurulabs.com (Lamont R. Peterson) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:57:21 -0700 Subject: please add maildrop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079564241.2579.34.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 06:44, Neal D. Becker wrote: > maildrop-1.6.2.tar.bz2 will build RPMS for fedora right out of the box, > IIRC. > > Please add this. It has functionality similar to procmail, but is much > easier for a human to understand. I don't need to learn yet another > computer language. I will put in my vote to include maildrop. Neal: Have you added this as an RFE in Bugzilla? If not, please, do. -- Lamont Peterson Senior Instructor Guru Labs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Ideally I want: /boot /dev/hdg1 Extended /dev/hdg4 SWAP /dev/hdg5 / /dev/hdg6 LVM PV /dev/hdg7 I don't see any way to do that at this stage of the installation (except if I use fdisk before starting the install process to create these partitions the way I want) The "Force partition to be created as Primary" tick box does not seem to have any effect... Finally, why is the minimum recommended size by for /boot 75Mb? It seems quite a bit too much for /boot Thanks. -- Frederic Soulier From monica_news04 at yahoo.ca Wed Mar 17 23:11:38 2004 From: monica_news04 at yahoo.ca (Monica) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:11:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: XFree86-4.3.0-64 + kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 = lockup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040317231138.85154.qmail@web41214.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Neal D. Becker" wrote: > Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: [drm] Initialized mga > 3.1.0 20021029 on minor > 0 > Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP > 2.0 compliant device at > 0000:00:00.0. > Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP > V2 device at > 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode > Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP > V2 device at > 0000:02:00.0 into 1x mode > Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm: :0[18514]: IO Error in > XOpenDisplay > Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm[18499]: X server for > display :0 terminated > unexpectedly > Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm[18499]: Display :0 cannot > be opened > Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm[18499]: Unable to fire up > local display :0; > disabling. > > At this point my keyboard was dead and I had to hit > reset > > Reboot with kernel-2.6.1-1.65 was OK. > > Except: > > I noticed that there weren't messages about > recovering the journal for my > root, instead, it just said it was clean. Seems > odd. > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Hi Neal, I had a similiar problem with XFree86-4.3.0-64. I first tried kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 as well and also an earlier one and the same thing happened for both. My screen froze during boot-up, but my keyboard still worked. The X server had crashed. After an hour of trying to figure out what was wrong, I figured out that it was glibc. I was able to get to a command-prompt (Ctrl-F1 at the blank screen). From there, attempting to run startx resulted in a different error message from the logs (logs said that /dev/apm_bios didn't exist). The output from the command line complained about not being able to find something in a glibc file (I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was trying to reference something that didn't exist). I believe that it was version 2.3.3-13. I upgraded to 2.3.3-17 and everything worked. The X server started as expected. I also downgraded to -63 for XFree86, but I believe that it was the newer glibc that did it. I'm also running an earlier kernel (it's configured just how I want it - 2.6.3-1.118), but it should work with the current one. -Monica. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From michal at harddata.com Wed Mar 17 23:19:27 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:19:27 -0700 Subject: please add maildrop In-Reply-To: <1079564241.2579.34.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us>; from lamont@gurulabs.com on Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 03:57:21PM -0700 References: <1079564241.2579.34.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> Message-ID: <20040317161927.A7342@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 03:57:21PM -0700, Lamont R. Peterson wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 06:44, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > maildrop-1.6.2.tar.bz2 will build RPMS for fedora right out of the box, > > IIRC. > > > > Please add this. > > I will put in my vote to include maildrop. Why you will not submit packages to fedora.us? There is quite a few "extras" there. Or is 'maildrop' already available there? I did not look. Michal From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed Mar 17 23:25:33 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:25:33 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <1079561892.29405.34.camel@study> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <1079561892.29405.34.camel@study> Message-ID: <1079565933.29405.60.camel@study> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 17:18, Sandy Pond wrote: > I didn't bother removing any old XFree packages first. Should I be > running "rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -qa | grep ^XFree)" first? > Sorry to reply to my own email After downloading Mikes packages this installed without problem: packages=$(rpm -qa | grep ^XFree | \ sed -e 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' \ -e 's/-4.3.0-.*$/-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5.i386.rpm/') rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -qa | grep ^XFree) rpm -ihv $packages Complains about: warning: xorg-x11-libs-data-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 30c9ecf8 and: /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libkdeinit_appletproxy.so.#prelink#.ueCvZM is too small, not checked. Haven't had a chance to test yet. From netopml at newview.com Wed Mar 17 23:31:26 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 17 Mar 2004 18:31:26 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: netopml at newview.com writes: > But after it was done, the /usr/X11R6/lib was gone from /etc/ld.so.conf so > I had a problem loading dynamic libraries meaning X wouldn't start. I put > it back there, ran ldconfig and I was almost back in business except I had > to restart xfs (service xfs restart, I guess the post install in the rpm > should do that). > > That was it, took less than 5 minutes: great job... I should add, now that I've rebooted my computer, you need to add xfs back to the system startup, so it comes up automatically. chkconfig --add xfs -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Mar 17 23:44:35 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:44:35 -0500 Subject: yum: conflict between qmail-run and exim In-Reply-To: <1079552438.6833.8.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> References: <1079552438.6833.8.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> Message-ID: <1079567075.8603.1.camel@binkley> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 20:40 +0100, Christian Schlaefcke wrote: > Hi folks, > > when I run "yum update" I get this: > Resolving dependencies > ..conflict between qmail-run and exim > > "rpm -qa qmail-run" returns this > qmail-run-11.07-001memphis > > I have a selfmade qmail running and I don?t want to risk my > configuration by removing the rpm entry. Exim is not installed. > > I have no idea what package is causing this dependency!? Another > bleeding edge I guess ;-) > run with a higher debug mode and yum should tell you what is pulling in exim for a dependency. -sv From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed Mar 17 23:51:43 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:51:43 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <1079565933.29405.60.camel@study> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <1079561892.29405.34.camel@study> <1079565933.29405.60.camel@study> Message-ID: <1079567503.29555.4.camel@study> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 18:25, Sandy Pond wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 17:18, Sandy Pond wrote: > > I didn't bother removing any old XFree packages first. Should I be > > running "rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -qa | grep ^XFree)" first? > > > > Sorry to reply to my own email > > After downloading Mikes packages this installed without problem: > > packages=$(rpm -qa | grep ^XFree | \ > sed -e 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' \ > -e 's/-4.3.0-.*$/-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5.i386.rpm/') > > rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -qa | grep ^XFree) > > rpm -ihv $packages > > Complains about: > > warning: xorg-x11-libs-data-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5.i386.rpm: V3 DSA > signature: NOKEY, key ID 30c9ecf8 > > and: > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libkdeinit_appletproxy.so.#prelink#.ueCvZM > is too small, not checked. > > Haven't had a chance to test yet. > After reboot, brief testing shows no problems. I didn't have the previous reported problem with openoffice and the xfs service was already configured to start on boot. :) From Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com Wed Mar 17 23:57:35 2004 From: Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com (Tommy McNeely) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:57:35 -0700 Subject: Mozilla Localization Message-ID: I am curious how many languages the Red Hat Mozilla gets localized into. It seems like it takes 3+ releases for "us" to release anything http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/get.html While I see 1.4.1 in FC1 (production) and 1.6 in FC2t1. I don't really know any other languages or how to even try it, but still I wonder what the story is. Thanks in advance, Tommy From dennis at ausil.us Thu Mar 18 00:01:47 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:01:47 +1000 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: <200403181001.58794.dennis@ausil.us> On Thursday 18 March 2004 4:51 am, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sandy Pond wrote: > >So, I noticed the Xorg server on rawhide ... so what's the story. > doing up2date xorg-x11 i get the following dependancy errors Name Version Rel ---------------------------------------------------------- xorg-x11 0.0.6.6 0.0.2004_03_11.4 i386 Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: Glide3-20010520-25 requires XFree86-libs = 4.1.0 XFree86-Mesa-libGL-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs < 4.2.0-50.5 XFree86-Mesa-libGLU-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs < 4.2.0-50.5 XFree86-libs-data-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs <= 4.2.99.2-0.20021105.0 is there a bug for these already or should i start one? Dennis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From alan at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 00:14:52 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:14:52 -0500 Subject: Mozilla Localization In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040318001452.GC27426@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 04:57:35PM -0700, Tommy McNeely wrote: > I am curious how many languages the Red Hat Mozilla gets localized into. Almost none, but fortunately you can download language packs from mozilla.org for all the ones that are missing. Alan (who does this for cy each time) From fedora at andrewfarris.com Thu Mar 18 00:33:59 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:33:59 -0800 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <4058B7F7.6040605@atl.lmco.com> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <4058B613.30706@atl.lmco.com> <1079555872.10745.50.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <4058B7F7.6040605@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <1079570039.4143.34.camel@CirithUngol> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 15:41 -0500, Doug Stewart wrote: > Will Backman wrote: > | On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 15:33, Doug Stewart wrote: > | > | > |>What about those using nVidia/ATI binary drivers? What will the > |>implications be for 3d acceleration? > Shazbot! > > Anyone contacted nVidia about morphing their drivers to fit X.org's server? > > - -- > - ---------- > Doug Stewart > Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer > Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs I am also very interested in this since I game religiously. There has been some mention of this on the www.nvnews.net forums; no official reply or statement that I have seen however. nVIDIA is aware of the future problem, but some additional mention of it to them would not hurt. I believe one 'unofficial' type statement was that the drivers should port very quickly due to the similar architecture, whereas the Xserver implementation would not port easily. The best we can do for now is to install the xorg- packages and go for it... then let them know what breaks and why. The primary contact email for nVIDIA for this would be linux-bugs at nvidia.com; the linux driver forum at www.nvnews.net would be a good place to discuss this publicly (as well as here of course, but there are more distributions moving to XOrg than Fedora). http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14 I will be testing it as soon as my finals are over this week. Spring break with xorg... I expect some problems and very little room to fix them. -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 18 00:41:12 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:41:12 -0500 Subject: XFree86-4.3.0-64 + kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 = lockup In-Reply-To: <20040317231138.85154.qmail@web41214.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040317231138.85154.qmail@web41214.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200403171941.13131.ndbecker2@verizon.net> On Wednesday 17 March 2004 06:11 pm, Monica wrote: [...] > I had a similiar problem with XFree86-4.3.0-64. I > first tried kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 as well and also > an earlier one and the same thing happened for both. > My screen froze during boot-up, but my keyboard still > worked. The X server had crashed. > > After an hour of trying to figure out what was wrong, > I figured out that it was glibc. I was able to get to > a command-prompt (Ctrl-F1 at the blank screen). From > there, attempting to run startx resulted in a > different error message from the logs (logs said that > /dev/apm_bios didn't exist). The output from the > command line complained about not being able to find > something in a glibc file (I don't remember exactly > what it said, but it was trying to reference something > that didn't exist). I believe that it was version > 2.3.3-13. > > I upgraded to 2.3.3-17 and everything worked. The X > server started as expected. I also downgraded to -63 > for XFree86, but I believe that it was the newer glibc > that did it. I'm also running an earlier kernel (it's > configured just how I want it - 2.6.3-1.118), but it > should work with the current one. > Thanks Monica. Only problem is, I already am using glibc-2.3.3-17. There is syslog of the crash which I reported. I believe my crash looks different than yours. Thanks for the info, anyway. From kazuengineer at yahoo.com.au Thu Mar 18 00:58:42 2004 From: kazuengineer at yahoo.com.au (***Kazu***) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:58:42 +1000 Subject: list of the kernel parameters In-Reply-To: <405831AE.6000301@schoultz.cx> References: <4057DC06.6070006@yahoo.com.au> <405831AE.6000301@schoultz.cx> Message-ID: <4058F442.2020401@yahoo.com.au> Hi Magnus Thank you for your reply. I forgot to mension but I'm looking for something apart from /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt. Regards Kazu Magnus Schoultz wrote: > ***Kazu*** wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Can anyone tell me where can I find the detailed list of all the >> kernel parameters >> including descrption of each patameters and range of configureble >> values. >> Or does not exist such thing? >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Regards >> >> Kazu >> >> >> > /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt > > -magnus > > From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Thu Mar 18 02:49:49 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 03:49:49 +0100 Subject: please add maildrop In-Reply-To: <20040317161927.A7342@mail.harddata.com> References: <1079564241.2579.34.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> <20040317161927.A7342@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040318034949.7c35efe7.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:19:27 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 03:57:21PM -0700, Lamont R. Peterson wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 06:44, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > > maildrop-1.6.2.tar.bz2 will build RPMS for fedora right out of the box, > > > IIRC. > > > > > > Please add this. > > > > I will put in my vote to include maildrop. > > Why you will not submit packages to fedora.us? There is quite > a few "extras" there. Or is 'maildrop' already available there? > I did not look. Provided that several interested users work as a team, it should be easy to get a package included. -- From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 18 03:06:25 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:06:25 -0500 Subject: user management with ldap? Message-ID: I noticed that we can config user accounts to use ldap, which is nice. But, there is no tool to create/manage such accounts provided by fedora? I can install a 3rd party tool, such as gq. But, even if I do, it isn't aware of fedora default policies for creating user accounts. I think we need something here. From tmolina at cablespeed.com Thu Mar 18 03:17:50 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:17:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: switchdesk anomaly Message-ID: This evening I finally got all the updates to cooperate and things updated without a hitch for once. However, the icon still shows a red exclamation point. Once again I am showing that switchdesk has an update available, but when up2date is launched it says my system is fully up to date. On a previous instance of this problem someone suggested yum update switchdesk. This also produces a message saying my system is fully up to date. From mharris at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 03:58:11 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:58:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 netopml at newview.com wrote: >mharris at redhat.com ("Mike A. Harris") writes: >> I look forward to hearing people's good/bad success/failure >> reports, and any problems that arise being filed in bugzilla with >> as many details as possible. > >I will bugzilla the following later (against which package?) but so far, >the upgrade on 2 computers (a desktop and a laptop) was pretty easy. > >I had conflicts with openoffice and ttmkfdir and fonts-ja: > XFree86-font-utils < 4.2.99.2-0.20021126.3 conflicts with ttmkfdir-3.0.9-10 This one is fixed in 4.2.99.2-0.20021126.5 already. > XFree86 is needed by (installed) openoffice.org-1.1.0-30 That's an openoffice package bug, which should be fixed in the next openoffice update. > XFree86-75dpi-fonts is needed by (installed) fonts-ja-8.0-11 Fixed in 4.2.99.2-0.20021126.5 already. >No big deal. I ran rpm with --nodeps > >But after it was done, the /usr/X11R6/lib was gone from /etc/ld.so.conf so >I had a problem loading dynamic libraries meaning X wouldn't start. I put >it back there, ran ldconfig and I was almost back in business except I had >to restart xfs (service xfs restart, I guess the post install in the rpm >should do that). That is actually a bug in XFree86-libs postun script, which removes /usr/X11R6/%{lib} from ld.so.conf. There is a race condition. Since the bug is in the XFree86-libs package already installed on the system, there's no way to fix the broken script itself, so the /usr/X11R6/%{lib} will always end up getting removed. This issue is already reported in bugzilla at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118448 I'm not sure how to work around this problem 100%, but I talked with some other people and currently what I've done, is I've removed the offending code from the -libs postun of the new package (which doesn't help us for the existing problem, but ensures it wont happen in the future), and I've added a %pre section to each of the 3 library subpackages which attempt to add the dir to ld.so.conf if it doesn't already exist in there. If that doesn't fix the problem, the only other thing I can think of to try is a trigger. Triggers generally break more than they fix, and do so in a very nasty way which itself is very unfixable if you get a bug in your trigger script. As such I'd like to avoid triggers if at all possible. If anyone has any other suggestions for ideas of how to fix this problem, feel free to suggest them in the above bug report, and I'll try to investigate. Worst case scenario is that we end up biting our tongue and having to rely on anaconda to fix things up. That's only if it can't be fixed in xorg-x11 packaging itself, which isn't 100% clear yet. Thanks for the feedback! TTYL -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 03:59:28 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:59:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <4058CCD2.3030103@qualcomm.com> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <4058CCD2.3030103@qualcomm.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Paul Bender wrote: >On my system, I upgraded the XFree86 RPMs with the corresponding >xorg-x11*-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5.i386.rpm RPMs. In the process, I had >a few problems getting them to install and start. > >(1) openoffice.org-1.1.0-30 had a dependency problem on XFree86. I got >past this by removing openoffice.org. Reported in: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118441 >(2) xauth could not find libXmuu and xinit could not find libX11. I got >past this by adding /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and running ldconfig. >(3) xfs did not start automatically. I got past this by running "xfs >-droppriv -daemon" manually. Reported in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118448 >After that it started. Ok cool! Thanks for the feedback! -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 04:02:31 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:02:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <1079561892.29405.34.camel@study> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <1079561892.29405.34.camel@study> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sandy Pond wrote: >> I welcome public feedback and comments, preferably to the mailing >> list, as I prefer to have feedback be public rather than private, >> so that others can further comment as well. > >Don't know if you've found these so I won't bugzilla but here's a try >with yum after todays rawhide update ... using >xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.4.i386.rpm: > ># yum install xorg* >Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) >Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree >Finding updated packages >Downloading needed headers >Resolving dependencies >.conflict between Glide3 and XFree86-libs >conflict between ttmkfdir and XFree86-font-utils >conflict between Glide3-devel and XFree86-devel I think all 3 of those are probably fixed in the newer build: * Wed Mar 17 2004 Mike A. Harris 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5 - Added versions to some of the XFree86 compabitility virtual provides, which include "Provides: XFree86-devel = 4.4.0", "Provides: XFree86-font-utils = 4.4.0", "Provides: XFree86-libs = 4.4.0" >Package openoffice.org needs XFree86, this is not available. Yep, the openoffice build to fix that failed last night. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118441 >I didn't bother removing any old XFree packages first. Should I be >running "rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -qa | grep ^XFree)" first? While you could do that, we want upgrades to work as clean as possible, so people should be able to do: rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-*.rpm ... and get XFree86 obsoleted and xorg installed. Hope this helps. Thanks for testing! -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 04:06:29 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:06:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <200403181001.58794.dennis@ausil.us> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <200403181001.58794.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >doing up2date xorg-x11 i get the following dependancy errors > >Name Version Rel >---------------------------------------------------------- >xorg-x11 0.0.6.6 0.0.2004_03_11.4 >i386 > > >Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... >There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > >Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >Glide3-20010520-25 requires XFree86-libs = 4.1.0 >XFree86-Mesa-libGL-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs < 4.2.0-50.5 >XFree86-Mesa-libGLU-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs < 4.2.0-50.5 >XFree86-libs-data-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs <= >4.2.99.2-0.20021105.0 > >is there a bug for these already or should i start one? No bug report, but I fixed that earlier today by adding a version to the virtual provides of the -libs subpackage: Provides: XFree86-libs = 4.4.0 instead of what was there before: Provides: XFree86-libs Thanks for your testing feedback, much appreciated! -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From smearp at mac.com Thu Mar 18 04:16:57 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:16:57 -0800 Subject: Firefox and Thunderbird In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <1079561892.29405.34.camel@study> Message-ID: <405922B9.1030006@mac.com> Hello All- I'm sure the question has been asked and answered, but I didn't see it on the mailing list archives nor in Bugzilla as an RFE. Is there any particular reason that Firefox and Thunderbird are not included in Fedora? Maximum PC Magazine just had a showdown between Firebird (the old version of Firefox) and Internet Explorer, and Firebird won (hands down IIRC). Thunderbird is extremely stable and has a great interface and nice features. Now that Fedora has spilled on to 4 CD's, and there is some more room for packages, any reason that Thunderbird and Firefox can't be added to the distribution? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Sean From w.steenburg at myactv.net Thu Mar 18 04:58:53 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:58:53 -0500 Subject: switchdesk anomaly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079585932.2525.0.camel@FC2> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 22:17 -0500, Thomas Molina wrote: > This evening I finally got all the updates to cooperate and things updated > without a hitch for once. However, the icon still shows a red exclamation > point. Once again I am showing that switchdesk has an update available, > but when up2date is launched it says my system is fully up to date. On a > previous instance of this problem someone suggested yum update switchdesk. > This also produces a message saying my system is fully up to date. > You could always do a: rpm -e rhn-applet :) From smearp at mac.com Thu Mar 18 05:23:44 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:23:44 -0800 Subject: yum exclude not working? Message-ID: <40593260.4010603@mac.com> Hello all, Is it just me, or is the --exclude switch not working in the current version of yum (yum-2.0.5.20040310-1)? As usual, when downloading the rawhide updates, it choked on a dependancy problem (this time with the kdeaddons package). I attempted to exclude the offending package, but recieved the exact same error message. Am I mistyping the command, or is there an actual problem that needs to be bugzilla'd? -Sean # yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Package kdeaddons needs libkabinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. Package kdeaddons needs libkdepim.so.1, this is not available. Package kdeaddons needs libkpinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. # yum --exclude=kdeaddons update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Package kdeaddons needs libkabinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. Package kdeaddons needs libkdepim.so.1, this is not available. Package kdeaddons needs libkpinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. From smearp at mac.com Thu Mar 18 05:24:34 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:24:34 -0800 Subject: switchdesk anomaly In-Reply-To: <1079585932.2525.0.camel@FC2> References: <1079585932.2525.0.camel@FC2> Message-ID: <40593292.1040806@mac.com> >You could always do a: rpm -e rhn-applet :) > > Don't tempt me... -Sean ;) From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Mar 18 05:27:06 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:27:06 -0500 Subject: yum exclude not working? In-Reply-To: <40593260.4010603@mac.com> References: <40593260.4010603@mac.com> Message-ID: <1079587626.8603.27.camel@binkley> > Is it just me, or is the --exclude switch not working in the > current version of yum (yum-2.0.5.20040310-1)? > > As usual, when downloading the rawhide updates, it choked on a > dependancy problem (this time with the kdeaddons package). I attempted > to exclude the offending package, but recieved the exact same error > message. Am I mistyping the command, or is there an actual problem that > needs to be bugzilla'd? > > .Package kdeaddons needs libkabinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. > Package kdeaddons needs libkdepim.so.1, this is not available. > Package kdeaddons needs libkpinterfaces.so.1, this is not available. > this doesn't necessarily mean kdeaddons is being updated. It means that something is going away that kdeaddons needed. -sv From barryn at pobox.com Thu Mar 18 05:33:40 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:33:40 -0800 Subject: When does up2date time out? In-Reply-To: <4058AF95.4050303@webedge.dk> References: <4058AF95.4050303@webedge.dk> Message-ID: <20040318053340.GB3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 09:05:41PM +0100, Erik Reuter wrote: > I tried running up2date (gui) against a mirror server of mine today, > which was down. > > up2date just went to sleep... Is there some buildin timeout that's just > a wee bit too long or does it stall indefinately? If you run the up2date GUI from a terminal window, you'll see any tracebacks in the terminal. If you're getting tracebacks that way, then these bugs may be relevant: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88349 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102540 -Barry K. Nathan From louie998 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 18 05:33:33 2004 From: louie998 at hotmail.com (Louie Dickens) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 05:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Internet Browsing Issuses with FC2 Message-ID: Howdy all, I have recently installed the FC2 system and my problem is this: When I boot my system up I have no problem connecting to my router or pulling an IP from it DNS server and everything necessary to browse the internet, however when I open up Mozilla or any other web browser I cannot actually load any web pages. I can resolve host names and I have also attempted to ping both the .com addresses and the ip addresses of various places that I know and have been able to get a ping from both attempts. Mozilla and also Up2Date and any other service I try to load up that accesses the internet cannot get out. I have tried connecting both with the firewall enabled and not enabled and nothing has been successful. Any help you guys can give would be appreciated. Louie From yonasb at netzero.com Thu Mar 18 06:03:16 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonas abraham) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:03:16 -0500 Subject: Internet Browsing Issuses with FC2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40593BA4.20605@netzero.com> Did you try to put |net.ipv4.tcp_ecn = 0| on /etc/sysctl.conf Louie Dickens wrote: >Howdy all, > >I have recently installed the FC2 system and my problem is this: > >When I boot my system up I have no problem connecting to my router or pulling >an IP from it DNS server and everything necessary to browse the internet, >however when I open up Mozilla or any other web browser I cannot actually load >any web pages. I can resolve host names and I have also attempted to ping both >the .com addresses and the ip addresses of various places that I know and have >been able to get a ping from both attempts. Mozilla and also Up2Date and any >other service I try to load up that accesses the internet cannot get out. > >I have tried connecting both with the firewall enabled and not enabled and >nothing has been successful. Any help you guys can give would be appreciated. > > >Louie > > > > > From spam at tachegroup.com Thu Mar 18 06:09:32 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:09:32 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Where do I get the new Mobility Radeon 9600 M10 that you packaged. on 3/17/2004 3:24 PM, Pau Aliagas at linuxnow at newtral.org wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >> On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sandy Pond wrote: >> >>> So, I noticed the Xorg server on rawhide ... so what's the story. > >> The other option, is for someone else to go and package XFree86 >> 4.4.0 themselves which the previous posting to this list >> indicates someone has already done. Note however that we do not >> support 4.4.0, and will not support systems that are using it. > > I was the one that packed XFree86-4.4.0 becasuse I need support for the > Mobility Radeon 9600 M10. If that support is going to be included in the > new implementation, I'll gladly test it until it works. > > Should xorg work in this card in the x86_64 platform? > > Pau > From train at voicenet.com Thu Mar 18 06:30:59 2004 From: train at voicenet.com (Herbert Rutledge) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:30:59 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <4058CCD2.3030103@qualcomm.com> Message-ID: <1079591459.14147.2.camel@trilon> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 22:59 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Paul Bender wrote: > >After that it started. > > Ok cool! Thanks for the feedback! I ran it through its paces, and everything is fine here. Thanks for the build, Mike. -train From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu Mar 18 07:47:55 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:47:55 +0100 Subject: Internet Browsing Issuses with FC2 In-Reply-To: <40593BA4.20605@netzero.com> References: <40593BA4.20605@netzero.com> Message-ID: <4059542B.7070709@gmx.de> yonas abraham wrote: > Did you try to put |net.ipv4.tcp_ecn = 0| on /etc/sysctl.conf do not forget # sysctl -p -- shrek-m From reg at dwf.com Thu Mar 18 08:11:08 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:11:08 -0700 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree Message-ID: <200403180811.i2I8B8aW011003@orion.dwf.com> OK, we have a nice announcement that XFree is being replaced by X.org. Can someone explain the politics of whats going on, and why this is happening???? Did I miss something? -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Thu Mar 18 08:26:40 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:26:40 +0000 Subject: user management with ldap? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079598399.2518.16.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 03:06, Neal Becker wrote: > I noticed that we can config user accounts to use ldap, which is nice. But, > there is no tool to create/manage such accounts provided by fedora? > > I can install a 3rd party tool, such as gq. But, even if I do, it isn't > aware of fedora default policies for creating user accounts. > > I think we need something here. To be honest with you Neal, I would be happy with an example ldif file to create one account, from there it is relatively simple to set up the rest, this is doubly so if the SELinux stuff requires additional information/configuration. On top of this, it would also be ideal to know the minimum access requirements for clients that need to access the directory, as that is a real mare :o( Doug From linuxnow at newtral.org Thu Mar 18 08:38:35 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:38:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, TGS wrote: > Where do I get the new Mobility Radeon 9600 M10 that you packaged. http://www.webdeko.com/xfree44_rpms_64 If I can make xorg work instead of XFree86-4.4.0 I'll definately will go for it. Pau From farnik at internode.on.net Thu Mar 18 09:53:14 2004 From: farnik at internode.on.net (K,N,D Farnik) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:23:14 +1030 Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <33123.129.89.123.64.1079100561.squirrel@www.frohne.org> Message-ID: <000501c40cce$d5dad060$0101010a@whitestar> Ok, whats the trick :-) I get a ORA-27125 Cannot create shared memory segment error when string to startup the database. (Same error during Oracle install when trying to create initial DB) Install worked ok after setting /etc/redhat-release to Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon) I also tried: export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 and ran dbca - no luck. I also tried setting vm.nr_hugepages = 256 in sysctl.conf (also sysctl -p) - no luck. TIA. Kym Farnik > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joe Frohne > Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 0:39 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 > > > Hi, > > I have installed 10g on FC2T1 with no problems at all. Everything > worked fine. Just remember to comment out the platform specific > check in the install scripts and you should be good to go. > > -- > Joe Frohne > Rawson Oaks Consulting, Remote Oracle Admins > http://www.rawsonoaks.com > joe at rawsonoaks.com or joe at frohne.org > Oak Creek, WI, USA > -- > There are no impossible dreams. > > > Has anyone tried to install Oracle 10g (10.1.0.2) on FC2T1? > > > > If so any joy? What issues? > > > > I am about to try it! > > > > TIA, Kym Farnik From hampus at activemediatech.com Thu Mar 18 10:16:55 2004 From: hampus at activemediatech.com (Hampus Linden) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:16:55 -0000 Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <000501c40cce$d5dad060$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: Try: echo 1073741824 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax echo 4096 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmni echo 2097152 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmall Verify with: ipcs -lm -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of K,N,D Farnik Sent: 18 March 2004 09:53 To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com; joe at rawsonoaks.com Subject: RE: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 Ok, whats the trick :-) I get a ORA-27125 Cannot create shared memory segment error when string to startup the database. (Same error during Oracle install when trying to create initial DB) Install worked ok after setting /etc/redhat-release to Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon) I also tried: export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 and ran dbca - no luck. I also tried setting vm.nr_hugepages = 256 in sysctl.conf (also sysctl -p) - no luck. TIA. Kym Farnik > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joe Frohne > Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 0:39 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 > > > Hi, > > I have installed 10g on FC2T1 with no problems at all. Everything > worked fine. Just remember to comment out the platform specific > check in the install scripts and you should be good to go. > > -- > Joe Frohne > Rawson Oaks Consulting, Remote Oracle Admins > http://www.rawsonoaks.com > joe at rawsonoaks.com or joe at frohne.org > Oak Creek, WI, USA > -- > There are no impossible dreams. > > > Has anyone tried to install Oracle 10g (10.1.0.2) on FC2T1? > > > > If so any joy? What issues? > > > > I am about to try it! > > > > TIA, Kym Farnik -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fedora at andrewfarris.com Thu Mar 18 10:23:20 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 02:23:20 -0800 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <200403180811.i2I8B8aW011003@orion.dwf.com> References: <200403180811.i2I8B8aW011003@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <1079605400.26253.8.camel@CirithUngol> On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 01:11 -0700, reg at dwf.com wrote: > OK, we have a nice announcement that XFree is being replaced by X.org. > > Can someone explain the politics of whats going on, and why this is > happening???? > > Did I miss something? > > -- > Reg.Clemens > reg at dwf.com There are several components of XFree86 4.4 that required changing the license of the software (and/or the XFree maintainers 'chose' to change the license). The short answer is Red Hat (and many major people, distributions, and organizations) decided that the license is not acceptable. See this post by Mike Harris for some explanation. For more info google it up, there have been stories on slashdot and elsewhere so its out there. The core issue is not Fedora specific. http://freedesktop.org/pipermail/x-packagers/2004-February/000004.html -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From neuro at seclab.jp Thu Mar 18 11:23:04 2004 From: neuro at seclab.jp (Frederic de Villamil) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:23:04 +0100 Subject: Firefox and Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <405922B9.1030006@mac.com> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <1079561892.29405.34.camel@study> <405922B9.1030006@mac.com> Message-ID: <20040318112304.GA74499@jesus.seclab.jp> On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sean Earp wrote: > Hello All- > > I'm sure the question has been asked and answered, but I didn't see it > on the mailing list archives nor in Bugzilla as an RFE. > > Is there any particular reason that Firefox and Thunderbird are not > included in Fedora? Maximum PC Magazine just had a showdown between > Firebird (the old version of Firefox) and Internet Explorer, and > Firebird won (hands down IIRC). Thunderbird is extremely stable and > has a great interface and nice features. Now that Fedora has spilled on > to 4 CD's, and there is some more room for packages, any reason that > Thunderbird and Firefox can't be added to the distribution? Any info > would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, > > -Sean Hi Sean, [root at therese root]# apt-cache search firefox firefox - Mozilla Firefox Web browser. flash-plugin - Macromedia Flash Player 6.0 Seems Firefox is provided by FC2. My apt-get source for it: rpm http://fedora.mirror.sdv.fr/fedora fedora/1.90/i386 os updates stable unstable testing rpm-src http://fedora.mirror.sdv.fr/fedora fedora/1.90/i386 os updates Anyway, that's true thunderbird is not provided. Don't know why. Hope this helps. Frederic -- < Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president et pere de famille respectable :s http://www.seclab.jp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available URL: From terraformers at gmx.net Thu Mar 18 11:53:06 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:53:06 +0100 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) Message-ID: <200403181253.06516.terraformers@gmx.net> works fine here with nvidia drivers. wee!! thanks! lars From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 18 12:16:30 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:16:30 -0500 Subject: please add maildrop In-Reply-To: <20040317161927.A7342@mail.harddata.com> References: <1079564241.2579.34.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> <20040317161927.A7342@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <200403180716.30528.ndbecker2@verizon.net> On Wednesday 17 March 2004 6:19 pm, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 03:57:21PM -0700, Lamont R. Peterson wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 06:44, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > > maildrop-1.6.2.tar.bz2 will build RPMS for fedora right out of the > > > box, IIRC. > > > > > > Please add this. > > > > I will put in my vote to include maildrop. > > Why you will not submit packages to fedora.us? There is quite > a few "extras" there. Or is 'maildrop' already available there? > I did not look. I'd like to start submitting to fedora, but there are some reasons I haven't 1) I dont' want to take ownership for a package I might not have time or expertise to support 2) I know basics of rpm spec files but need to learn a bit more about details, and I'm not sure where to get educated 3) Step 1 said to submit introduction. I tried this about 3 times and it seems my mail disappeared into the ether. So I never progressed past this step. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Thu Mar 18 13:33:53 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:33:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Firefox and Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <20040318112304.GA74499@jesus.seclab.jp> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <1079561892.29405.34.camel@study> <405922B9.1030006@mac.com> <20040318112304.GA74499@jesus.seclab.jp> Message-ID: <1435.12.29.16.103.1079616833.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Frederic de Villamil said: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sean Earp wrote: > >> Hello All- >> >> I'm sure the question has been asked and answered, but I didn't see it >> on the mailing list archives nor in Bugzilla as an RFE. >> >> Is there any particular reason that Firefox and Thunderbird are not >> included in Fedora? Maximum PC Magazine just had a showdown between >> Firebird (the old version of Firefox) and Internet Explorer, and >> Firebird won (hands down IIRC). Thunderbird is extremely stable and >> has a great interface and nice features. Now that Fedora has spilled on >> to 4 CD's, and there is some more room for packages, any reason that >> Thunderbird and Firefox can't be added to the distribution? Any info >> would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, >> >> -Sean > > Hi Sean, > [root at therese root]# apt-cache search firefox > firefox - Mozilla Firefox Web browser. > flash-plugin - Macromedia Flash Player 6.0 > > Seems Firefox is provided by FC2. > > My apt-get source for it: > rpm http://fedora.mirror.sdv.fr/fedora fedora/1.90/i386 os updates stable > unstable testing You have Fedora Extras (aka Fedora.us) sources in there. That is where Firefox is coming from. Another note is that recently some issues surrounding the "Firefox" name and logos has surfaced (i.e. only being able to use them on "unmodified" sources): http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/debian-legal-200403/msg00006.html -- William Hooper From davej at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 13:43:34 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:43:34 +0000 Subject: XFree86-4.3.0-64 + kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 = lockup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079617414.24335.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 21:22, Neal D. Becker wrote: > Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: [drm] Initialized mga 3.1.0 20021029 on minor > 0 > Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at > 0000:00:00.0. > Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at > 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode > Mar 17 16:10:42 rpppc1 kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at > 0000:02:00.0 into 1x mode > Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm: :0[18514]: IO Error in XOpenDisplay > Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm[18499]: X server for display :0 terminated > unexpectedly > Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm[18499]: Display :0 cannot be opened > Mar 17 16:10:44 rpppc1 kdm[18499]: Unable to fire up local display :0; > disabling. > At this point my keyboard was dead and I had to hit reset Anything interesting in /var/log/XFree86.0.log ? > Reboot with kernel-2.6.1-1.65 was OK. You got rid of your /dev/psaux uses in your XF86Config right ? Dave From bcs at metacon.ca Thu Mar 18 13:56:43 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:56:43 -0400 Subject: mirror structure Message-ID: <1079618203.24452.18.camel@zephyr> I'm setting up a local mirror of rawhide for our testers and I have a question: is the "headers" directory above the arch directories necessary, or just the one in the arch directory(ies)? Any pointer to a "how to" for setting up a mirror? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 18 15:08:36 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:08:36 -0500 Subject: [COD] (Conflicts Of the Day) Message-ID: ....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package anaconda needs libXxf86misc.so.1, this is not available. Package gdm needs libXinerama.so.1, this is not available. From joe at rawsonoaks.com Thu Mar 18 16:07:58 2004 From: joe at rawsonoaks.com (Joe Frohne) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:07:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <000501c40cce$d5dad060$0101010a@whitestar> References: <33123.129.89.123.64.1079100561.squirrel@www.frohne.org> <000501c40cce$d5dad060$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: <32852.129.89.123.64.1079626078.squirrel@www.frohne.org> > Ok, whats the trick :-) > > I get a ORA-27125 Cannot create shared memory segment error when > string to startup the database. Hrm, I must be loosing my mind here. I thought I had upgraded to FC2T1 and re-installed Oracle 10g. I have since upgraded my test box to kernel 2.6.3 and now get the same shared memory segment error. I will go back to a stock FC2T1 and confirm my insanity. -- Joe Frohne Rawson Oaks Consulting, Remote Oracle Admins http://www.rawsonoaks.com joe at rawsonoaks.com or joe at frohne.org Oak Creek, WI, USA -- There are no impossible dreams. From lars at oddbit.com Thu Mar 18 16:26:42 2004 From: lars at oddbit.com (Lars Kellogg-Stedman) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:26:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: still LVM2 failure in linux-2.6.3-2.1.253 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I just tried the latest linux-2.6.3-2.1.253. Updated everything. > > I have lvm2/ext3 root. > > I get: > > no such device or address while trying to open /dev/Volume01/LogVol00 (this > is my lvm root). > (drops into root shell for repair) I've just installed 1.90 on a system with /boot on a RAID1 partition and everything else on LVM on top of RAID5. I'm seeing similar problems: (1) vgscan appears to hang. Bugzilla #117318 implies weird interactions with raid1 devices, but my raid1 device is *not* part of the volume group. (2) The problem with vgscan appears to be related to a problem with pvscan. Haven't really had the chance to investigate this more thoroughly. (3) filesystems falsely appear to be mounted. That is, 'df' will show mounted filesystems, when in fact they failed to mount. This causes (obviously) all sorts of interesting problems. (4) The /dev/mapper/... device nodes appear to not be created correctly ("at all"). Should we calling 'dmsetup mknodes' in rc.sysinit? Or is this related to (1)? (5) Anaconda has real problems if you attempt to install onto a disk with existing LVM volume groups. It will crash just before the "formatting filesystems" portion of the install because it is unable to remove an existing volume group (I had to manually 'dd if=/dev/zero ...' all of my partitions -- so that the installer wouldn't auto-detect them -- to get the install to work). -- Lars -- Lars Kellogg-Stedman From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 18 16:37:02 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:37:02 -0800 Subject: xemacs Oops In-Reply-To: <20040314070221.GD13908@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <20040314070221.GD13908@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <20040318163702.GB14009@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:02:21PM -0800, Tom Mitchell wrote: > Is xemacs ok for you? It is is not here..... .... > Mar 13 22:46:54 xtl2 kernel: Oops: 0000 [#1] .... Just a quick follow up for those that look at threads in archives of this list in the future. With the most recent updates this problem is gone/ fixed. Summary -- All Better Now. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Thu Mar 18 16:42:55 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:42:55 -0600 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Yes, please! I was over looking at the XFree86 FAQ http://www.xfree86.org/legal/licenses.html and X.org download terms http://www.x.org/Downloads_terms.html and I really can't see much difference. Is there something I'm missing? I'm working on a project (with a very short release schedule) that is planning on using FC2. At this very moment we are testing ATI 9600 Pro, 9600 XT, two different 9800 cards, and several nVidia cards. Now I'm worried how this will affect us if FC2 comes with a X.org server instead of XFree86. Thanks -Scott -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of reg at dwf.com Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:11 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree OK, we have a nice announcement that XFree is being replaced by X.org. Can someone explain the politics of whats going on, and why this is happening???? Did I miss something? -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From jorton at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 17:07:38 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:07:38 +0000 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 1 Test Update: openssl-0.9.7a-33.10 Message-ID: <20040318170738.GA13302@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-095 2004-03-18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : openssl Version : 0.9.7a Release : 33.10 Summary : The OpenSSL toolkit. Description : The OpenSSL toolkit provides support for secure communications between machines. OpenSSL includes a certificate management tool and shared libraries which provide various cryptographic algorithms and protocols. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes OpenSSL packages to fix two issues affecting OpenSSL 0.9.7a which could allow denial of service attacks; CVE CAN-2004-0079 and CVE CAN-2004-0112. Also included are updates for the OpenSSL 0.9.6 and 0.9.6b compatibility libraries included in Fedora Core 1, fixing a separate issue which could also allow a denial of service attack; CVE CAN-2004-0081. Please test these packages and report results in the tracking bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118622 --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Mar 16 2004 Joe Orton 0.9.7a-33.10 - rebuild * Tue Mar 16 2004 Phil Knirsch 0.9.7a-33.4 - Fixed libica filespec. * Mon Mar 08 2004 Joe Orton 0.9.7a-33.3 - add security fixes for CAN-2004-0079, CAN-2004-0112 --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ be7feee5b798f08a02dc2185dca6dc8a SRPMS/openssl-0.9.7a-33.10.src.rpm 6fb965516f23bcf4c19ac19804820289 i386/openssl-0.9.7a-33.10.i386.rpm de1a901e8d55a1a1b8c3d4574465caf3 i386/openssl-devel-0.9.7a-33.10.i386.rpm a356b81ad99d55c0a49910ca7650d322 i386/openssl-perl-0.9.7a-33.10.i386.rpm 96c7dbb4a0b7e5fd9962a08ce7a58a56 i386/debug/openssl-debuginfo-0.9.7a-33.10.i386.rpm 3b6e4990120c312789ac03f6e8ff2522 i386/openssl-0.9.7a-33.10.i686.rpm 8ef5864f929a9f890ce4c0d46e28729d i386/debug/openssl-debuginfo-0.9.7a-33.10.i686.rpm a8457bb5939f740523e0e4e74425435d x86_64/openssl-0.9.7a-33.10.x86_64.rpm 61d75dbb4d1dfec1d38d2549ca4c4351 x86_64/openssl-devel-0.9.7a-33.10.x86_64.rpm ab4a00eabeadebdb0f8cdb426dbaeee9 x86_64/openssl-perl-0.9.7a-33.10.x86_64.rpm 10c93f544699da91381ee0cea4a95d90 x86_64/debug/openssl-debuginfo-0.9.7a-33.10.x86_64.rpm 94da60bc05803cdbf8d408071f20c0ff SRPMS/openssl096b-0.9.6b-18.src.rpm c8534da2bf216020a5142107eda850f8 i386/openssl096b-0.9.6b-18.i386.rpm bca19297d518bcc589dcf89aad36ca09 i386/debug/openssl096b-debuginfo-0.9.6b-18.i386.rpm 24feb3587f54180a69b33f756e6112ed x86_64/openssl096b-0.9.6b-18.x86_64.rpm 5ff5be00cc5b75c449329f1bad8d7854 x86_64/debug/openssl096b-debuginfo-0.9.6b-18.x86_64.rpm 453a4b32a3df3b908ba3aa5a72941fb8 SRPMS/openssl096-0.9.6-26.src.rpm 61f72459d6b238de91a30a8d6acb5524 i386/openssl096-0.9.6-26.i386.rpm 37de22ea0790f269c5370afba3dbf159 i386/debug/openssl096-debuginfo-0.9.6-26.i386.rpm a88f71a897dd6667e138dd7af160d839 x86_64/openssl096-0.9.6-26.x86_64.rpm 90362036689aa18e1df604d151e2f984 x86_64/debug/openssl096-debuginfo-0.9.6-26.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Thu Mar 18 17:11:09 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:11:09 +0100 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Scott, > Now I'm > worried how this will affect us if FC2 comes with a X.org server instead > of XFree86. If I am not mistaken FC 2 will ship with both Xorg and XFree86-4.3.0 (for which the new licence does not apply). Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 18 18:24:18 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:24:18 -0500 Subject: still LVM2 failure in linux-2.6.3-2.1.253 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403181324.20245.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 11:26 am, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: > > I just tried the latest linux-2.6.3-2.1.253. Updated everything. > > > > I have lvm2/ext3 root. > > > > I get: > > > > no such device or address while trying to open /dev/Volume01/LogVol00 > > (this is my lvm root). > > (drops into root shell for repair) > > I've just installed 1.90 on a system with /boot on a RAID1 partition and > everything else on LVM on top of RAID5. > > I'm seeing similar problems: > > (1) vgscan appears to hang. Bugzilla #117318 implies weird interactions > with raid1 devices, but my raid1 device is *not* part of the volume group. > > (2) The problem with vgscan appears to be related to a problem with pvscan. > Haven't really had the chance to investigate this more thoroughly. > > (3) filesystems falsely appear to be mounted. That is, 'df' will show > mounted filesystems, when in fact they failed to mount. This causes > (obviously) all sorts of interesting problems. > > (4) The /dev/mapper/... device nodes appear to not be created correctly > ("at all"). Should we calling 'dmsetup mknodes' in rc.sysinit? Or is this > related to (1)? > > (5) Anaconda has real problems if you attempt to install onto a disk with > existing LVM volume groups. It will crash just before the "formatting > filesystems" portion of the install because it is unable to remove an > existing volume group (I had to manually 'dd if=/dev/zero ...' all of my > partitions -- so that the installer wouldn't auto-detect them -- to get the > install to work). > Just for the record, 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 #1 is now running OK for me. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWelSMDqogpR5tkMRAlUKAJ0YQDJlw+qDxd1cAvEQvUxPOdn8aQCeIWXI ew4TYURpQUZryvkkTfY9rn0= =4At0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From markf78 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 18:49:34 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: kernel panic 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 Message-ID: <20040318184934.20207.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- /umount: /initrd: device is busy (continues booting) kernel/timer.c:295: spin_lock (kernel/timer.c:0230e3a0) already locked by kernel /timer.c/392 kernel panic: fatal exception in interrupt In interrupt handler - not syncing (system hangs) is anyone else seeing this? i get the same errors in this kernel as well as kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253 since updating a slew of packages in "development" yesterday. ihaven't bugzilla'd yet... hoping someone knows how to get around this problem. thanks... mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 18 18:54:54 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:54:54 -0500 Subject: Migation autofs to ldap Message-ID: Can anyone help me with migrating autofs to ldap? I tried the migration script /usr/share/openldap/migration/migrate_automount.pl. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a problem with the script? To test, I added this line to /etc/auto.master: /test??????ldap:rpppc1.md.hns.com:ou=auto.test,dc=adg,dc=hns,dc=com?? Here is the corresponding ldif: dn: nisMapName=auto.test,dc=adg,dc=hns,dc=com objectClass: top objectClass: nisMap nisMapName: auto.test dn: cn=test,nisMapName=auto.test,dc=adg,dc=hns,dc=com objectClass: nisObject cn: test nisMapEntry:????????rpppc1.md.hns.com:/disk1/test nisMapName: auto.test If I do /sbin/service autofs reload, I get: Mar 18 09:19:40 rpppc1 automount[19312]: starting automounter version 4.1.0, path = /test, maptype = ldap, mapname = rpppc1.md.hns.com:ou=auto.test,dc=adg,dc=hns,dc=com Mar 18 09:19:40 rpppc1 automount[19312]: using kernel protocol version 4.00 Mar 18 09:19:40 rpppc1 automount[19312]: using timeout 300 seconds; freq 75 secs Mar 18 09:19:40 rpppc1 automount[19312]: lookup(ldap): query failed for (&(objectclass=nisObject)) Mar 18 09:19:40 rpppc1 automount[19312]: lookup(ldap): query failed for (&(objectclass=automount)) Mar 18 09:19:40 rpppc1 automount[19312]: failed to load map, exiting Mar 18 09:19:40 rpppc1 automount[19312]: failed to remove dir @ $(J`S (BI - ?f: No such file or directory -A (Yes, the garbage characters are there in the log) From tdiehl at rogueind.com Thu Mar 18 19:34:17 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:34:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: mirror structure In-Reply-To: <1079618203.24452.18.camel@zephyr> References: <1079618203.24452.18.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Ben Steeves wrote: > I'm setting up a local mirror of rawhide for our testers and I have > a question: is the "headers" directory above the arch directories Depends on what is in your yum.conf. > necessary, or just the one in the arch directory(ies)? Any pointer to a > "how to" for setting up a mirror? Here is quick how-to: 1. If you want to generate your own headers, cd to the directory you want as the top level directory of your mirror 2. run "yum-arch ." 3. point your yum.conf at the directory where the headers directory is located. 4. If you want to use the headers provided by Red Hat in the master mirror ignore steps 1 and 2. I prefer to build my own since the rawhide headers can be inconsistent from time to time due to rsync problems. They do eventually catch up though. 5. enjoy. I am assuming you are talking about using yum. I have never used apt so if that is what you want to use ignore this. HTH, Tom From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu Mar 18 19:51:22 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:51:22 +0100 Subject: xorg-x11 - openoffice Message-ID: <4059FDBA.4040302@gmx.de> # yum install xorg-x11* Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies ......Unable to satisfy dependencies Package openoffice.org needs XFree86, this is not available. # yum update openoffice* Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies Dependencies resolved I will do the following: [update: openoffice.org 1.1.0-30.i386] [update: openoffice.org-libs 1.1.0-30.i386] [update: openoffice.org-i18n 1.1.0-30.i386] Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages Getting openoffice.org-1.1.0-30.i386.rpm openoffice.org-1.1.0-30.i 100% |=========================| 34 MB 06:45 Getting openoffice.org-libs-1.1.0-30.i386.rpm openoffice.org-libs-1.1.0 100% |=========================| 38 MB 07:28 Getting openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.0-30.i386.rpm openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.0 100% |=========================| 46 MB 09:02 Running test transaction: /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: Datei oder Verzeic hnis nicht gefunden Test transaction complete, Success! /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: Datei oder Verzeic hnis nicht gefunden openoffice.org-libs 100 % done 1/6 openoffice.org-i18n 100 % done 2/6 openoffice.org 100 % done 3/6 Completing update for openoffice.org - 4/6 Completing update for openoffice.org-libs - 5/6 Completing update for openoffice.org-i18n - 6/6 Updated: openoffice.org 1.1.0-30.i386 openoffice.org-libs 1.1.0-30.i386 openoffice.org-i18n 1.1.0-30.i386 Transaction(s) Complete # yum install xorg-x11* Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Package openoffice.org needs XFree86, this is not available. # date -u Do Maer 18 19:46:28 UTC 2004 lftp download.fedora.redhat.com:/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS> ls openoffice* -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 35445519 Mar 17 19:21 openoffice.org-1.1.0-30.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 48279490 Mar 17 19:22 openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.0-30.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 39871065 Mar 17 19:22 openoffice.org-libs-1.1.0-30.i386.rpm http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118441 waiting for the next 120 MB :-( -- shrek-m From sopwith at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 19:57:46 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:57:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: xorg-x11 - openoffice In-Reply-To: <4059FDBA.4040302@gmx.de> References: <4059FDBA.4040302@gmx.de> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > # yum install xorg-x11* > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > ......Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package openoffice.org needs XFree86, this is not available. openoffice.org-1.1.0-32 fixes this - should show up in rawhide tomorrow. -- Elliot From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Thu Mar 18 19:59:09 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:59:09 -0500 Subject: kernel panic 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 In-Reply-To: <20040318184934.20207.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040318184934.20207.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1079639949.30229.2.camel@study> On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 13:49, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > /umount: /initrd: device is busy > > (continues booting) > > kernel/timer.c:295: spin_lock (kernel/timer.c:0230e3a0) already locked by > kernel /timer.c/392 > kernel panic: fatal exception in interrupt > In interrupt handler - not syncing > > (system hangs) > > is anyone else seeing this? i get the same errors in this kernel as well as > kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253 since updating a slew of packages in "development" > yesterday. ihaven't bugzilla'd yet... hoping someone knows how to get around > this problem. thanks... See http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118202 From blizzard at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 21:16:45 2004 From: blizzard at redhat.com (Christopher Blizzard) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:16:45 -0500 Subject: Mozilla Localization In-Reply-To: <20040318001452.GC27426@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040318001452.GC27426@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <405A11BD.8090207@redhat.com> Alan Cox wrote: >On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 04:57:35PM -0700, Tommy McNeely wrote: > > >>I am curious how many languages the Red Hat Mozilla gets localized into. >> >> > >Almost none, but fortunately you can download language packs from >mozilla.org for all the ones that are missing. > >Alan (who does this for cy each time) > > > > Yeah, we're sucking. The problem is that I need to go hunt all over the world (well, the internet - every language pack is in a different place) to the various locations to find langpacks for every release that we do. It sucks. And usually the release of the langpack happens weeks after the release of the browser, if ever. So we do include our "top tier languages" but only the bare set. Mozilla can at least download langpacks after the fact which means that we're not completely shutting out other languages. We're just making it hard. --Chris -- ------------ Christopher Blizzard http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/ ------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 21:35:37 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:35:37 -0500 Subject: Mozilla Localization In-Reply-To: <405A11BD.8090207@redhat.com> References: <20040318001452.GC27426@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <405A11BD.8090207@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040318213537.GC7670@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 04:16:45PM -0500, Christopher Blizzard wrote: > Yeah, we're sucking. The problem is that I need to go hunt all over the > world (well, the internet - every language pack is in a different place) > to the various locations to find langpacks for every release that we > do. It sucks. And usually the release of the langpack happens weeks Is this something that could be farmed out to the translation teams to worry about, since they tend to know where their mozilla translations are and if they work ? From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 18 21:39:19 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:39:19 -0500 Subject: Migation autofs to ldap References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Neal D. Becker wrote: > Can anyone help me with migrating autofs to ldap? I tried the migration > script /usr/share/openldap/migration/migrate_automount.pl. Am I doing > something wrong, or is there a problem with the script? > > To test, I added this line to /etc/auto.master: > > /test???ldap:rpppc1.md.hns.com:ou=auto.test,dc=adg,dc=hns,dc=com > OK, I answered my own question. It was NOT EASY to find the answer! The syntax should be: /test ldap://rpppc1.md.hns.com/nisMapName=auto.test,dc=adg,dc=hns,dc=com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWhcKMDqogpR5tkMRAj5ZAJ4udmUWc9Ccyxk3ZMSQnHnwH3uxhACeMGrB G308szUBXCcUrqMlPqN3Xu8= =wAqT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From blizzard at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 22:13:15 2004 From: blizzard at redhat.com (Christopher Blizzard) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:13:15 -0500 Subject: Mozilla Localization In-Reply-To: <20040318213537.GC7670@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040318001452.GC27426@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <405A11BD.8090207@redhat.com> <20040318213537.GC7670@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <405A1EFB.1080802@redhat.com> Alan Cox wrote: >On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 04:16:45PM -0500, Christopher Blizzard wrote: > > >>Yeah, we're sucking. The problem is that I need to go hunt all over the >>world (well, the internet - every language pack is in a different place) >>to the various locations to find langpacks for every release that we >>do. It sucks. And usually the release of the langpack happens weeks >> >> > >Is this something that could be farmed out to the translation teams to >worry about, since they tend to know where their mozilla translations are >and if they work ? > > > > Which translation teams do you mean? The fedora ones? Or the Mozilla teams? --Chris -- ------------ Christopher Blizzard http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/ ------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan at redhat.com Thu Mar 18 22:58:08 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:58:08 -0500 Subject: Mozilla Localization In-Reply-To: <405A1EFB.1080802@redhat.com> References: <20040318001452.GC27426@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <405A11BD.8090207@redhat.com> <20040318213537.GC7670@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <405A1EFB.1080802@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040318225808.GB17724@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 05:13:15PM -0500, Christopher Blizzard wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > >Is this something that could be farmed out to the translation teams to > >worry about, since they tend to know where their mozilla translations are > >and if they work ? > > > Which translation teams do you mean? The fedora ones? Or the Mozilla > teams? Fedora teams. Ie if the translators build you a nice directory of the language packs matching those languages we have teams for, and which they have tested From markf78 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 23:24:48 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:24:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: OT: redhat kernels correlation to "vanilla" kernels In-Reply-To: <20040318225808.GB17724@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040318232448.68668.qmail@web11413.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- i realize this is off topic but... i am trying to determine the source (and version #) correlation between the redhat kernels and the "vanilla" kernels. how do the redhat kernels correspond to the "vanilla" kernels hosted on kernel.org? e.g. the latest redhat kernel (to the best of my knowledge) is 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1; i was recently informed on this list that the redhat kernel has been patched to be current with 2.6.4. is there a way to tell which kernel the redhat kernel is current with by either the version number or another method unknownst to me? i just checked kernel.org and it appears the latest is 2.6.5-rc1. any explanations or links would be greatly appreciated!! please forgive my ignorance on this matter, i am eager to learn. thank you. mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From p1374953 at cedarville.edu Thu Mar 18 23:50:04 2004 From: p1374953 at cedarville.edu (Timothy Ryan Bierer) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:50:04 -0500 Subject: up2date I/O error: not a gzipped file Message-ID: <405A35AC.7070702@cedarville.edu> I am running up2date (the latest version, just downloaded it today) on command line, and it works fine until it attempts to test the package set/solve rpm dependencies. Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... There was some sort of I/O error: Not a gzipped file Is this a known issue? From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Thu Mar 18 23:49:47 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:49:47 -0600 Subject: up2date I/O error: not a gzipped file References: <405A35AC.7070702@cedarville.edu> Message-ID: <003d01c40d43$b382a4f0$72b9fc80@rwa1> I've seen this several times. It usually seems to be tied to specific mirrors. Try a different mirror or wait a couple of hours; usually worked for me. Richard Ayer III From jonescr at cisco.com Thu Mar 18 23:52:11 2004 From: jonescr at cisco.com (Charles Jones) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:52:11 -0700 Subject: Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working? Message-ID: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1smp Tyan S2880 Motherboard I've tried the tg3 module, I've downloaded the bcm5700 module from Tyans site and tried it too. Neither of them detect the dual onboard GigE adapters. I've made sure the adapters are enabled in the BIOS, I've tried booting with acpi=off, etc...I even removed all the PCI cards from the machine to ensure there are no conflicts. I'm running out of ideas, does anyone have this board and gotten the broadcom adapters working? If anyone has any suggestions I would be glad to consider them as well. From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Thu Mar 18 23:54:15 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:54:15 +0100 Subject: up2date I/O error: not a gzipped file In-Reply-To: <405A35AC.7070702@cedarville.edu> References: <405A35AC.7070702@cedarville.edu> Message-ID: <1079654055.20104.803.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Fr, den 19.03.2004 schrieb Timothy Ryan Bierer um 00:50: > I am running up2date (the latest version, just downloaded it today) on > command line, and it works fine until it attempts to test the package > set/solve rpm dependencies. > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > There was some sort of I/O error: Not a gzipped file > > Is this a known issue? Let me guess it is http://mirrors.kernel.org/ as source? Change to a different mirror. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl Sirendipity 00:52:49 up 10 days, 1:11, load average: 0.29, 0.14, 0.13 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu Fri Mar 19 00:27:07 2004 From: dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu (dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:27:07 -0600 Subject: issues with recent updates and mail server help Message-ID: <1079656027.405a3e5bea833@webmailapp3.cc.utexas.edu> hello all, ok... i just formatted and repartitioned a redhat 9 system and install the FC2 test 1 and then updated it. Here are the problems i am currently having. After the updates from yesterday... i can't use the keyboard at all in a gnome session. it works fine in xfce, but not in gnome and the neither of the two 2.6.3 kernel's installed on my system from the updates will work with the xf86server. with both of them i get an error that x does not thing /dev/psaux is a valid device (depsite console mouse stuff working fine). None of the theme engines are working with gtk either.... in addition to this there are various other breaks...the services system-config tool doesn't work. In addition to this i'm trying to figure out how on earth i'm supposed to setup cyrus-imapd to work with fetchmail, procmail, and squierrel mail the way i had imapd setup in rh9... i can't even login to it from anyuser in squierrel mail or evolution, much less try the fetchmail stuff. sry for the tone of this email, i'm just a bit frustrated with the mail stuff at this point. yes i do realize that this is a test release, which is why i am writing this email b/c i'm sure others have run into these issues or not. thanks, Douglas McMorris From cra at WPI.EDU Fri Mar 19 00:33:04 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:33:04 -0500 Subject: OT: redhat kernels correlation to "vanilla" kernels In-Reply-To: <20040318232448.68668.qmail@web11413.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040318225808.GB17724@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040318232448.68668.qmail@web11413.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040319003304.GR8136@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 03:24:48PM -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > i am trying to determine the source (and version #) correlation between the > redhat kernels and the "vanilla" kernels. how do the redhat kernels correspond > to the "vanilla" kernels hosted on kernel.org? e.g. the latest redhat kernel > (to the best of my knowledge) is 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1; i was recently informed on > this list that the redhat kernel has been patched to be current with 2.6.4. is > there a way to tell which kernel the redhat kernel is current with by either > the version number or another method unknownst to me? i just checked kernel.org > and it appears the latest is 2.6.5-rc1. rpm -qpl kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.src.rpm That will show all sources in the kernel package, along with what patches are in there. Note that just because a patch is in the src.rpm, doesn't mean it is applied in all cases. Usually, though, all patches are applied unless they are arch-specific. From iainr at zathras.org Fri Mar 19 00:39:00 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:39:00 +0000 Subject: Migation autofs to ldap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <405A4124.6040304@zathras.org> Neal D. Becker wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Neal D. Becker wrote: > > > >>Can anyone help me with migrating autofs to ldap? I tried the migration >>script /usr/share/openldap/migration/migrate_automount.pl. Am I doing >>something wrong, or is there a problem with the script? >> >>To test, I added this line to /etc/auto.master: >> >>/test ldap:rpppc1.md.hns.com:ou=auto.test,dc=adg,dc=hns,dc=com >> >> >> > >OK, I answered my own question. It was NOT EASY to find the answer! > >The syntax should be: >/test ldap://rpppc1.md.hns.com/nisMapName=auto.test,dc=adg,dc=hns,dc=com > > If it's any help this seems to work for me LDIF of auto.master on server (RH9) dn: nisMapName=auto.master,dc=zathras,dc=org objectClass: top objectClass: nisMap nisMapName: auto.master dn: cn=/misc,nisMapName=auto.master,dc=zathras,dc=org objectClass: nisObject cn: /misc nisMapEntry: /etc/auto.misc --timeout=60 nisMapName: auto.master dn: cn=/home,nisMapName=auto.master,dc=zathras,dc=org objectClass: nisObject cn: /home nisMapEntry: ldap:glorious:nisMapName=auto.home,dc=zathras,dc=org nisMapName: auto.master dn: cn=/packages,nisMapName=auto.master,dc=zathras,dc=org objectClass: nisObject cn: /packages nisMapName: auto.master nisMapEntry: ldap:glorious:nisMapName=auto.packages,dc=zathras,dc=org LDIF of auto.home on server( most home directories are on /export/home except for the ~redhat) dn: nisMapName=auto.home,dc=zathras,dc=org objectClass: top objectClass: nisMap nisMapName: auto.home dn: cn=/,nisMapName=auto.home,dc=zathras,dc=org objectClass: nisObject nisMapEntry: glorious.zathras.org:/export/home/& nisMapName: auto.home cn: / dn: cn=redhat,nisMapName=auto.home,dc=zathras,dc=org objectClass: nisObject cn: redhat nisMapEntry: glorious:/export/home1/& nisMapName: auto.home {on client (FC1)] [iainr at victorious tmp]$ more /etc/auto.master # $Id: auto.master,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:03 hpa Exp $ # Sample auto.master file # Format of this file: # mountpoint map options # For details of the format look at autofs(8). # /misc /etc/auto.misc --timeout=60 nsswitch.conf has automount: files ldap From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Fri Mar 19 00:45:18 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:45:18 +0100 Subject: issues with recent updates and mail server help In-Reply-To: <1079656027.405a3e5bea833@webmailapp3.cc.utexas.edu> References: <1079656027.405a3e5bea833@webmailapp3.cc.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <1079657117.20104.821.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Fr, den 19.03.2004 schrieb dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu um 01:27: > hello all, [ snip ] > In addition to this i'm trying to figure out how on earth i'm supposed to setup > cyrus-imapd to work with fetchmail, procmail, and squierrel mail the way i had > imapd setup in rh9... i can't even login to it from anyuser in squierrel mail > or evolution, much less try the fetchmail stuff. This is no descriptive problem mailing at all. You did not say which MTA you are using, which authentification you configured, you posted not any log entry. You only say something compared to your old RH9 which even had no cyrus-imapd shipped. > sry for the tone of this email, i'm just a bit frustrated with the mail stuff at > this point. yes i do realize that this is a test release, which is why i am > writing this email b/c i'm sure others have run into these issues or not. I suspect you do not want any practical help but you wanted announce some frustration. > thanks, > Douglas McMorris Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl Sirendipity 01:40:11 up 10 days, 1:59, load average: 0.16, 0.20, 0.17 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From mrsam at courier-mta.com Fri Mar 19 00:57:01 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:57:01 -0500 Subject: Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working? References: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> Message-ID: Charles Jones writes: > Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1smp > Tyan S2880 Motherboard > > I've tried the tg3 module, I've downloaded the bcm5700 module from Tyans > site and tried it too. Neither of them detect the dual onboard GigE > adapters. I've made sure the adapters are enabled in the BIOS, I've > tried booting with acpi=off, etc...I even removed all the PCI cards from > the machine to ensure there are no conflicts. I'm running out of ideas, > does anyone have this board and gotten the broadcom adapters working? > If anyone has any suggestions I would be glad to consider them as well. I don't have that particular motherboard, but I've got one dual opteron mobo with a pair of bcm5702 gige's. The module that groks them is the tg3 module. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From p1374953 at cedarville.edu Fri Mar 19 01:34:17 2004 From: p1374953 at cedarville.edu (Timothy Ryan Bierer) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:34:17 -0500 Subject: unresolvable chain of delendencies Message-ID: <405A4E19.9060000@cedarville.edu> Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: XFree86-4.3.0-45.0.1 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1 XFree86-4.3.0-45.0.1 requires XFree86-xfs = 4.3.0-45.0.1 XFree86-devel-4.3.0-45.0.1 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1 XFree86-twm-4.3.0-45.0.1 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1 I thought that Fedora was discontinuing XFree86 in favor of X11.org. What's the deal? From p1374953 at cedarville.edu Fri Mar 19 01:38:43 2004 From: p1374953 at cedarville.edu (Timothy Ryan Bierer) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:38:43 -0500 Subject: unresolvable chain of dependencies (sorry for the typo) In-Reply-To: <405A4E19.9060000@cedarville.edu> References: <405A4E19.9060000@cedarville.edu> Message-ID: <405A4F23.5050704@cedarville.edu> Timothy Ryan Bierer wrote: > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > XFree86-4.3.0-45.0.1 requires XFree86-libs = > 4.3.0-45.0.1 > XFree86-4.3.0-45.0.1 requires XFree86-xfs = > 4.3.0-45.0.1 > XFree86-devel-4.3.0-45.0.1 requires XFree86-libs = > 4.3.0-45.0.1 > XFree86-twm-4.3.0-45.0.1 requires XFree86-libs = > 4.3.0-45.0.1 > > I thought that Fedora was discontinuing XFree86 in favor of X11.org. > What's the deal? > > From sflory at rackable.com Fri Mar 19 01:53:41 2004 From: sflory at rackable.com (Samuel Flory) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:53:41 -0800 Subject: Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working? In-Reply-To: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> References: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> Message-ID: <405A52A5.3040603@rackable.com> Charles Jones wrote: > Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1smp > Tyan S2880 Motherboard > > I've tried the tg3 module, I've downloaded the bcm5700 module from Tyans > site and tried it too. Neither of them detect the dual onboard GigE > adapters. I've made sure the adapters are enabled in the BIOS, I've > tried booting with acpi=off, etc...I even removed all the PCI cards from > the machine to ensure there are no conflicts. I'm running out of ideas, > does anyone have this board and gotten the broadcom adapters working? > If anyone has any suggestions I would be glad to consider them as well. > > It should use the tg3 module. I've done much with the 2880 lately as the 2881, and 2882 are more interesting. Try updating the the latest bios, and send us the output of lspci -v, and dmesg after modprobe tg3. PS- List message tend to get lost in the crush of the messages. So you might want to cc me. -- There is no such thing as obsolete hardware. Merely hardware that other people don't want. (The Second Rule of Hardware Acquisition) Sam Flory From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 19 02:04:13 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:04:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: 3c905 bug in FCTest1? Message-ID: <65257.65.41.50.216.1079661853.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Well, I'm getting my test machine caught up with Rawhide after being down for a few weeks and I ran across a familiar issue. With kudzu 1.1.53-1 and kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 the NIC doesn't work and I get a lot of "transmit errors" to the console. I rebooted back to kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 and with kudzu still enabled get the same errors. Without kudzu running lspci reports: 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang] Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 3 I/O ports at de00 [size=effe0000] Expansion ROM at 00010000 [disabled] -- William Hooper From keithl at kl-ic.com Fri Mar 19 02:09:01 2004 From: keithl at kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:09:01 -0800 Subject: hdparm bus state change failure Message-ID: <20040319020901.GB19875@gate.kl-ic.com> Around September 2004, the ability to hotswap IDE drives (in swap trays) appeared in the redhat 2.4.ac kernels; this ability was in the release version of Fedora Core 1 with hdparm version 5.4. I believe this capability was implemented by Alan Cox, correct me if I am wrong. With FC1 release, the sequence to hotswap drive hdg is: unmount /dev/hdg hdparm -b 0 /dev/hdg (power off, change tray, power on) hdparm -zb 1 /dev/hdg mount /dev/hdg /mountpoint With FC2 test 1, both with the as-distributed 2.6.1-1.65 kernel and the updated 2.6.3-2.1.253 kernel, and version 5.5 hdparm, the bus off command * does not work *: [root]# hdparm -b 0 /dev/hdg /dev/hdg: setting bus state to 0 (off) HDIO_SET_BUSSTATE failed: Operation not supported busstate = 1 (on) FC1 works just fine on the very same hardware with a FC1 boot drive swapped in. It also works using the version 5.5 hdparm binary from FC2T1 with the FC1 kernel. Thus, the problem is in the FC2T1 kernel, perhaps the hotswap mods did not get included or got broken. What should I test next, before I submit a bug to bugzilla? Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl at ieee.org Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs From alan at redhat.com Fri Mar 19 02:12:30 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:12:30 -0500 Subject: hdparm bus state change failure In-Reply-To: <20040319020901.GB19875@gate.kl-ic.com> References: <20040319020901.GB19875@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: <20040319021230.GA30654@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 06:09:01PM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Around September 2004, the ability to hotswap IDE drives (in swap > trays) appeared in the redhat 2.4.ac kernels; this ability was in > the release version of Fedora Core 1 with hdparm version 5.4. I > believe this capability was implemented by Alan Cox, correct me if > I am wrong. > > With FC1 release, the sequence to hotswap drive hdg is: > > unmount /dev/hdg > hdparm -b 0 /dev/hdg > (power off, change tray, power on) > hdparm -zb 1 /dev/hdg > mount /dev/hdg /mountpoint > > > With FC2 test 1, both with the as-distributed 2.6.1-1.65 kernel > and the updated 2.6.3-2.1.253 kernel, and version 5.5 hdparm, > the bus off command * does not work *: 2.6 does not support IDE hotswap. The maintainer for 2.6 decided to not include it. This is unfortunate for anyone with a laptop or SATA on 3112 hardware > What should I test next, before I submit a bug to bugzilla? I would recommend continuing to use 2.4, at least for now. I may get annoyed enough to do some IDE patches for 2.6 to fix this but that won't be before late May and its lower priority than the broken acard, ncr5380, and atmel-wireless hardare support, all of which I need. August might be a better estimate. Alan From cra at WPI.EDU Fri Mar 19 02:22:09 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:22:09 -0500 Subject: 3c905 bug in FCTest1? In-Reply-To: <65257.65.41.50.216.1079661853.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <65257.65.41.50.216.1079661853.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <20040319022209.GS8136@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:04:13PM -0500, William Hooper wrote: > > Well, I'm getting my test machine caught up with Rawhide after being down > for a few weeks and I ran across a familiar issue. With kudzu 1.1.53-1 > and kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 the NIC doesn't work and I get a lot of > "transmit errors" to the console. I rebooted back to kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 > and with kudzu still enabled get the same errors. > > Without kudzu running lspci reports: > > 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang] > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 3 > I/O ports at de00 [size=effe0000] > Expansion ROM at 00010000 [disabled] Just today I started having problems with my test machine's ethernet card (also a Boomerang) after booting into 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1smp. The system is a dual Pentium III Slot 1 on a Tyan Tiger-133 motherboard. 00:10.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang] Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- ] local_bh_enable+0x39/0x5c [<1cd8e7f7>] mdio_read+0x101/0x11f [3c59x] [<1cd8bfad>] vortex_up+0x29f/0x671 [3c59x] [<1cd8cd82>] vortex_error+0x1fb/0x2b5 [3c59x] [<1cd8d889>] boomerang_interrupt+0x28e/0x38f [3c59x] [<0212f6c3>] update_wall_time+0x9/0x31 [<021130fb>] timer_interrupt+0xbe/0x17f [<1a855375>] radeon_dma_service+0x69/0x7f [radeon] [<0210ec29>] handle_IRQ_event+0x21/0x41 [<0210f01b>] do_IRQ+0x158/0x224 ======================= [<0211d73f>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x124/0x129 [<0210b018>] default_idle+0x0/0x2c [<0210b041>] default_idle+0x29/0x2c [<0210b09d>] cpu_idle+0x26/0x3b [<02128528>] call_console_drivers+0xbe/0xe3 [<0212878c>] printk+0x1dd/0x213 Badness in local_bh_enable at kernel/softirq.c:136 Call Trace: [<0212beae>] local_bh_enable+0x39/0x5c [<1cd8e7f7>] mdio_read+0x101/0x11f [3c59x] [<1cd8bfc3>] vortex_up+0x2b5/0x671 [3c59x] [<1cd8cd82>] vortex_error+0x1fb/0x2b5 [3c59x] [<1cd8d889>] boomerang_interrupt+0x28e/0x38f [3c59x] [<0212f6c3>] update_wall_time+0x9/0x31 [<021130fb>] timer_interrupt+0xbe/0x17f [<1a855375>] radeon_dma_service+0x69/0x7f [radeon] [<0210ec29>] handle_IRQ_event+0x21/0x41 [<0210f01b>] do_IRQ+0x158/0x224 ======================= [<0211d73f>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x124/0x129 [<0210b018>] default_idle+0x0/0x2c [<0210b041>] default_idle+0x29/0x2c [<0210b09d>] cpu_idle+0x26/0x3b [<02128528>] call_console_drivers+0xbe/0xe3 [<0212878c>] printk+0x1dd/0x213 eth0: Transmit error, Tx status register d0. Flags; bus-master 1, dirty 1(1) current 1(1) Transmit list 00000000 vs. 139d22a0. 0: @139d2200 length 80000156 status 80000156 1: @139d22a0 length 00000000 status 00000000 2: @139d2340 length 00000000 status 00000000 3: @139d23e0 length 00000000 status 00000000 4: @139d2480 length 00000000 status 00000000 5: @139d2520 length 00000000 status 00000000 6: @139d25c0 length 00000000 status 00000000 7: @139d2660 length 00000000 status 00000000 8: @139d2700 length 00000000 status 00000000 9: @139d27a0 length 00000000 status 00000000 10: @139d2840 length 00000000 status 00000000 11: @139d28e0 length 00000000 status 00000000 12: @139d2980 length 00000000 status 00000000 13: @139d2a20 length 00000000 status 00000000 14: @139d2ac0 length 00000000 status 00000000 15: @139d2b60 length 00000000 status 00000000 eth0: Transmit error, Tx status register d0. Flags; bus-master 1, dirty 1(1) current 1(1) Transmit list 00000000 vs. 139d22a0. 0: @139d2200 length 8000005a status 8000005a 1: @139d22a0 length 80000156 status 00000156 2: @139d2340 length 80000156 status 00000156 3: @139d23e0 length 80000156 status 00000156 4: @139d2480 length 80000156 status 00000156 5: @139d2520 length 80000156 status 00000156 6: @139d25c0 length 80000156 status 00000156 7: @139d2660 length 8000002a status 0000002a 8: @139d2700 length 8000002a status 0000002a 9: @139d27a0 length 8000002a status 8000002a 10: @139d2840 length 00000000 status 00000000 11: @139d28e0 length 00000000 status 00000000 12: @139d2980 length 00000000 status 00000000 13: @139d2a20 length 00000000 status 00000000 14: @139d2ac0 length 00000000 status 00000000 15: @139d2b60 length 00000000 status 00000000 eth0: Host error, FIFO diagnostic register 0000. eth0: PCI bus error, bus status 00a00029 Badness in local_bh_enable at kernel/softirq.c:136 Call Trace: [<0212beae>] local_bh_enable+0x39/0x5c [<1cd8e7f7>] mdio_read+0x101/0x11f [3c59x] [<1cd8bfad>] vortex_up+0x29f/0x671 [3c59x] [<1cd8cd82>] vortex_error+0x1fb/0x2b5 [3c59x] [<1cd8d889>] boomerang_interrupt+0x28e/0x38f [3c59x] [<02246f65>] i8042_interrupt+0x15e/0x16b [<1a855375>] radeon_dma_service+0x69/0x7f [radeon] [<0210ec29>] handle_IRQ_event+0x21/0x41 [<0210f01b>] do_IRQ+0x158/0x224 ======================= [<0211d73f>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x124/0x129 [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0x65 [<0210b018>] default_idle+0x0/0x2c [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0x65 [<0210b041>] default_idle+0x29/0x2c [<0210b09d>] cpu_idle+0x26/0x3b [<02355799>] start_kernel+0x1cc/0x1d1 Badness in local_bh_enable at kernel/softirq.c:136 Call Trace: [<0212beae>] local_bh_enable+0x39/0x5c [<1cd8e7f7>] mdio_read+0x101/0x11f [3c59x] [<1cd8bfc3>] vortex_up+0x2b5/0x671 [3c59x] [<1cd8cd82>] vortex_error+0x1fb/0x2b5 [3c59x] [<1cd8d889>] boomerang_interrupt+0x28e/0x38f [3c59x] [<02246f65>] i8042_interrupt+0x15e/0x16b [<1a855375>] radeon_dma_service+0x69/0x7f [radeon] [<0210ec29>] handle_IRQ_event+0x21/0x41 [<0210f01b>] do_IRQ+0x158/0x224 ======================= [<0211d73f>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x124/0x129 [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0x65 [<0210b018>] default_idle+0x0/0x2c [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0x65 [<0210b041>] default_idle+0x29/0x2c [<0210b09d>] cpu_idle+0x26/0x3b [<02355799>] start_kernel+0x1cc/0x1d1 eth0: Host error, FIFO diagnostic register 2000. eth0: PCI bus error, bus status 00900029 Badness in local_bh_enable at kernel/softirq.c:136 Call Trace: [<0212beae>] local_bh_enable+0x39/0x5c [<1cd8e7f7>] mdio_read+0x101/0x11f [3c59x] [<1cd8bfad>] vortex_up+0x29f/0x671 [3c59x] [<1cd8cd82>] vortex_error+0x1fb/0x2b5 [3c59x] [<1cd8d889>] boomerang_interrupt+0x28e/0x38f [3c59x] [<1a855375>] radeon_dma_service+0x69/0x7f [radeon] [<0210ec29>] handle_IRQ_event+0x21/0x41 [<0210f01b>] do_IRQ+0x158/0x224 ======================= [<0211d73f>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x124/0x129 [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0x65 [<0210b018>] default_idle+0x0/0x2c [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0x65 [<0210b041>] default_idle+0x29/0x2c [<0210b09d>] cpu_idle+0x26/0x3b [<02355799>] start_kernel+0x1cc/0x1d1 Badness in local_bh_enable at kernel/softirq.c:136 Call Trace: [<0212beae>] local_bh_enable+0x39/0x5c [<1cd8e7f7>] mdio_read+0x101/0x11f [3c59x] [<1cd8bfc3>] vortex_up+0x2b5/0x671 [3c59x] [<1cd8cd82>] vortex_error+0x1fb/0x2b5 [3c59x] [<1cd8d889>] boomerang_interrupt+0x28e/0x38f [3c59x] [<1a855375>] radeon_dma_service+0x69/0x7f [radeon] [<0210ec29>] handle_IRQ_event+0x21/0x41 [<0210f01b>] do_IRQ+0x158/0x224 ======================= [<0211d73f>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x124/0x129 [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0x65 [<0210b018>] default_idle+0x0/0x2c [<02107000>] _stext+0x0/0x65 [<0210b041>] default_idle+0x29/0x2c [<0210b09d>] cpu_idle+0x26/0x3b [<02355799>] start_kernel+0x1cc/0x1d1 eth0: Transmit error, Tx status register d0. Flags; bus-master 1, dirty 1(1) current 1(1) Transmit list 00000000 vs. 139d22a0. 0: @139d2200 length 80000046 status 80000046 1: @139d22a0 length 8000004e status 8000004e 2: @139d2340 length 80000156 status 00000156 3: @139d23e0 length 80000156 status 00000156 4: @139d2480 length 80000156 status 00000156 5: @139d2520 length 80000156 status 00000156 6: @139d25c0 length 80000156 status 00000156 7: @139d2660 length 8000002a status 0000002a 8: @139d2700 length 8000002a status 0000002a 9: @139d27a0 length 8000002a status 8000002a 10: @139d2840 length 00000000 status 00000000 11: @139d28e0 length 00000000 status 00000000 12: @139d2980 length 00000000 status 00000000 13: @139d2a20 length 00000000 status 00000000 14: @139d2ac0 length 00000000 status 00000000 15: @139d2b60 length 00000000 status 00000000 From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 19 02:49:29 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:49:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: 3c905 bug in FCTest1? In-Reply-To: <20040319022209.GS8136@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <65257.65.41.50.216.1079661853.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040319022209.GS8136@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <64596.65.41.50.216.1079664569.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Charles R. Anderson said: > I had been running this fine under 2.6.3-1.118 (smp or uni), but now I > can't get the card to work there either. I wonder if something fried > the card... Yep, your errors look pretty much like mine. Did you also upgrade kudzu recently? Unfortunately I didn't see what version I had that worked :-( Try: $ /sbin/chkconfig kudzu off The reboot. -- William Hooper From dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu Fri Mar 19 02:49:56 2004 From: dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu (dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:49:56 -0600 Subject: issues with recent updates and mail server help In-Reply-To: <1079657117.20104.821.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> References: <1079656027.405a3e5bea833@webmailapp3.cc.utexas.edu> <1079657117.20104.821.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <1079664596.405a5fd405819@webmailapp4.cc.utexas.edu> Quoting Alexander Dalloz : > Am Fr, den 19.03.2004 schrieb dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu um 01:27: > > hello all, > > [ snip ] > > > In addition to this i'm trying to figure out how on earth i'm supposed to > setup > > cyrus-imapd to work with fetchmail, procmail, and squierrel mail the way i > had > > imapd setup in rh9... i can't even login to it from anyuser in squierrel > mail > > or evolution, much less try the fetchmail stuff. > > This is no descriptive problem mailing at all. You did not say which MTA > you are using, which authentification you configured, you posted not any > log entry. You only say something compared to your old RH9 which even > had no cyrus-imapd shipped. > > > sry for the tone of this email, i'm just a bit frustrated with the mail > stuff at > > this point. yes i do realize that this is a test release, which is why i > am > > writing this email b/c i'm sure others have run into these issues or not. > > I suspect you do not want any practical help but you wanted announce > some frustration. > not entirely... i have absolutely no idea how to setup cyrus-imap b/c i've never dealt with it before... if you could point me to some docs that would work with the setup in fc that would be helpful. heres the log info i get when attempting to log in from squierrelmail: Mar 18 20:46:18 d-mak master[17787]: about to exec /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/imapd Mar 18 20:46:18 d-mak imap[31329]: accepted connection Mar 18 20:46:19 d-mak imap[17787]: executed Mar 18 20:46:19 d-mak imap[31329]: badlogin: d-mak.homelinux.org [127.0.0.1] plaintext douglas SASL(-1): generic failure: checkpass failed So basically i need to know how to add a new user. all the docs i find don't seem to relate to the setup with fc all that well. as for the other issue with the keyboard, its an extreme issue IMO and I just wanted to be sure it was known. thanks for your reply, i'm glad to see people running flame control on this list. > > thanks, > > Douglas McMorris > > Alexander > > > -- > Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 > Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl > Sirendipity 01:40:11 up 10 days, 1:59, load average: 0.16, 0.20, 0.17 > [ ?????????? ??'??? ?????? - gnothi seauton ] > my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars > From mharris at redhat.com Fri Mar 19 03:31:44 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:31:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: >> Now I'm >> worried how this will affect us if FC2 comes with a X.org server instead >> of XFree86. > >If I am not mistaken FC 2 will ship with both Xorg and XFree86-4.3.0 >(for which the new licence does not apply). XFree86 4.3.0 has been removed and replaced with X.org X11. There's no useful reason to ship 2 X11 implementations in one product. When you upgrade to xorg-x11, it automatically obsoletes and uninstalls the previous XFree86 packages (any version). Take care, TTYL -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Mar 19 03:52:20 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:52:20 -0500 Subject: issues with recent updates and mail server help References: <1079656027.405a3e5bea833@webmailapp3.cc.utexas.edu> <1079657117.20104.821.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1079664596.405a5fd405819@webmailapp4.cc.utexas.edu> Message-ID: I suggest you use dovecot, which is also included in FC. It is dead easy to setup. Assuming you just want mail for real users. squirrelmail then provides webmail with zero setup. Use anything that delivers to maildir format to deliver the mail. cyrus handles delivery, but dovecot only is an imap server. For delivery, I use maildrop, but others are possible. For a client, I'm really enjoying kmail/disconnected imap. From louie998 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 19 04:33:53 2004 From: louie998 at hotmail.com (Louie Dickens) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Internet Browsing Issuses with FC2 References: <40593BA4.20605@netzero.com> <4059542B.7070709@gmx.de> Message-ID: Yes thank you for your response. In fact if I could have taken this post back I would have last night. About an hour after posting I found the answer way down in the archives. Guess I should have kept looking before giving up. From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri Mar 19 04:47:22 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:47:22 -0700 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> Mike A. Harris wrote: >On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > > > >>>Now I'm >>>worried how this will affect us if FC2 comes with a X.org server instead >>>of XFree86. >>> >>> >>If I am not mistaken FC 2 will ship with both Xorg and XFree86-4.3.0 >>(for which the new licence does not apply). >> >> > >XFree86 4.3.0 has been removed and replaced with X.org X11. >There's no useful reason to ship 2 X11 implementations in one >product. When you upgrade to xorg-x11, it automatically >obsoletes and uninstalls the previous XFree86 packages (any >version). > >Take care > > I tried the xorg-x11 3_11.6 rpms with FC2 T1 and that wasn't my happy experience. It didn't install and I couldn't determine if the existing XFree86 config was being used after install. I had tried to do rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* and that didn't work... gave me : rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* error: Failed dependencies: XFree86 is needed by (installed) xine-lib-1.0.0-0.5.rc3.fr XFree86 is needed by (installed) aalib-1.4rc5-4.fr XFree86 is needed by (installed) openoffice.org-1.1.0-30 XFree86-truetype-fonts >= 4.2.0 is needed by (installed) VFlib2-2.25.6-19 XFree86-xfs is needed by (installed) chkfontpath-1.9.10-2 Then I made the mistake of doing rpm -Uvh --nodeps xorg-x11-* and that didn't work so I went back to XFree86-4.3.0-59. Oh well, it's devel, that's what you expect. I could have fried my card, my system, but hey it's for the cause! :) RaXeT From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Fri Mar 19 05:41:14 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:41:14 -0600 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> Message-ID: <001701c40d74$cd1f1430$72b9fc80@rwa1> RaXeT, I think that you need to do rpm -ivh xorg-x11-* because you want to install, not upgrade, the xorg packages. Richard Ayer III From mharris at redhat.com Fri Mar 19 06:38:02 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:38:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, RaXeT wrote: >I tried the xorg-x11 3_11.6 rpms with FC2 T1 and that wasn't my >happy experience. It didn't install and I couldn't determine if >the existing XFree86 config was being used after install. I had >tried to do rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* and that didn't work... gave me >: > >rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* >error: Failed dependencies: > XFree86 is needed by (installed) xine-lib-1.0.0-0.5.rc3.fr Bug in xine-lib rpm packaging. > XFree86 is needed by (installed) aalib-1.4rc5-4.fr Bug in aalib rpm packaging. > XFree86 is needed by (installed) openoffice.org-1.1.0-30 Bug in openoffice.org packaging, fixed in 1.1.0-32. > XFree86-truetype-fonts >= 4.2.0 is needed by (installed) >VFlib2-2.25.6-19 Bug in VFlib2 packaging, fixed in VFlib2-2.25.6-21 > XFree86-xfs is needed by (installed) chkfontpath-1.9.10-2 Bug in chkfontpath, fixed in chkfontpath-1.10.0-1 >Then I made the mistake of doing rpm -Uvh --nodeps xorg-x11-* >and that didn't work so I went back to XFree86-4.3.0-59. The proper way to do it, is to upgrade to /all/ of the current rawhide bits. openoffice might not be there yet. Then do: rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-*.rpm Also, where did you get aalib and xine-libs from? I'd like to download the src.rpm packages for those and see why they are broken. I assume it is just a bogus dependancy, or incorrect dependancy on the part of the packager. >Oh well, it's devel, that's what you expect. I could have fried >my card, my system, but hey it's for the cause! :) Yeppers. ;o) Your testing is greatly appreciated! Take care, TTYL -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Fri Mar 19 06:41:41 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:41:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <001701c40d74$cd1f1430$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> <001701c40d74$cd1f1430$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Richard Ayer III wrote: > I think that you need to do rpm -ivh xorg-x11-* because you want to >install, not upgrade, the xorg packages. No, you want to upgrade. xorg installs the exact same files in the exact same locations as XFree86 packaging does. It is not possible to have both XFree86 and xorg-x11 installed simultaneously with the provided rpm packages. The xorg-x11 rpms "Obsolete" all of the XFree86 ones. As such, the simple and proper way to do the upgrade to xorg-x11, is to: 1) Upgrade to _all_ of the current packages from rawhide, not just xorg-x11 2) Run: rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-*.rpm 3) You may need to add /usr/X11R6/lib (or lib64 on AMD64) to ld.so.conf and run ldconfig afterward. After that, things should be rather smooth. Hope this helps. TTYL -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From michal at harddata.com Fri Mar 19 06:54:18 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:54:18 -0700 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: ; from mharris@redhat.com on Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:31:44PM -0500 References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040318235418.B23043@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:31:44PM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > XFree86 4.3.0 has been removed and replaced with X.org X11. > There's no useful reason to ship 2 X11 implementations in one > product. I just went through an exercise of installing xorg-x11 set. When 'ttmkfdir-3.0.9-10' is present (no newer one available as far as I can see) one gets: error: Failed dependencies: XFree86-font-utils < 4.2.99.2-0.20021126.3 conflicts with ttmkfdir-3.0.9-10 but with 'ttmkfdir' removed: error: Failed dependencies: /usr/bin/ttmkfdir is needed by xorg-x11-truetype-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.4 /usr/bin/ttmkfdir is needed by xorg-x11-xfs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.4 Eventually I installed the whole set adding '--nodeps'. :-) Oh, well. > When you upgrade to xorg-x11, it automatically > obsoletes and uninstalls the previous XFree86 packages (any > version). It does that with such enthusiasm that "/usr/X11R6/lib" vanished from /etc/ld.so.conf and on attempt to start a server I was greeted with: xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory xinit: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The fact that xfs was not running was only a minor detail after these attractions. :-) More troublesome aspect are that after fixing the above the first try with Radeon 7000/VE caused a loss of synchronization with a monitor showing only "Out of range" in big letters. The second one succeeded and differences in logs from both tries are not very illuminating. Other thing is that previously I was seeing with 'glxgears' over 100 fps (not much, I know) but now this is only some 50 fps. Ouch! Michal From farnik at internode.on.net Fri Mar 19 08:53:10 2004 From: farnik at internode.on.net (K,N,D Farnik) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:23:10 +1030 Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c40d8f$9bb01870$0101010a@whitestar> Tried that (also had previously set all the kernel params as per install notes). No luck :-( Thanks, Kym > Hampus Linden > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 > > > Try: > echo 1073741824 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax > echo 4096 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmni > echo 2097152 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmall > > Verify with: ipcs -lm > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of K,N,D Farnik > Sent: 18 March 2004 09:53 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com; joe at rawsonoaks.com > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 > > Ok, whats the trick :-) > > I get a ORA-27125 Cannot create shared memory segment error > when string > to startup the database. > (Same error during Oracle install when trying to create initial DB) > > Install worked ok after setting /etc/redhat-release to > Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon) > > I also tried: export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 and ran dbca - no luck. > > I also tried setting vm.nr_hugepages = 256 in sysctl.conf (also sysctl > -p) - no luck. > > TIA. Kym Farnik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com > > [mailto:fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joe Frohne > > Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 0:39 > > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > Subject: Re: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I have installed 10g on FC2T1 with no problems at all. Everything > > worked fine. Just remember to comment out the platform specific > > check in the install scripts and you should be good to go. > > > > -- > > Joe Frohne > > Rawson Oaks Consulting, Remote Oracle Admins > > http://www.rawsonoaks.com > > joe at rawsonoaks.com or joe at frohne.org > > Oak Creek, WI, USA > > -- > > There are no impossible dreams. > > > > > Has anyone tried to install Oracle 10g (10.1.0.2) on FC2T1? > > > > > > If so any joy? What issues? > > > > > > I am about to try it! > > > > > > TIA, Kym Farnik From tmolina at cablespeed.com Fri Mar 19 10:48:56 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 05:48:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: xserver update problem? Message-ID: I assume the following is because of xorg rpm dependency problems. I'm not sure why some people are able to do the update and some aren't. I haven't modified yum's configuration nor up2date's configuration, so it is still however it came with the test distro. The text copied below is the entire output from issuing the command. [root at dad root]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies ..Package XFree86-devel needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64, this is not available. Package XFree86-xfs needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64, this is not available. Package XFree86 needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64, this is not available. Package XFree86-twm needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64, this is not available. From awol at home.nl Fri Mar 19 11:19:36 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:19:36 +0100 Subject: Strange package dependency problem Message-ID: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> While trying to upgrade to the latest rawhide packages with up2date today I encountered the following: There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: XFree86-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 XFree86-devel-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 XFree86-twm-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 XFree86-xfs-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 Please modify your package selections and try again. I had upgraded to the complete set of XFree86-4.3.0-64 packages I use (including all the above mentioned) without problems yesterday. Anybody else seen this? Alexander From fedora at andrewfarris.com Fri Mar 19 11:35:13 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 03:35:13 -0800 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <1079570039.4143.34.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <4058B613.30706@atl.lmco.com> <1079555872.10745.50.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <4058B7F7.6040605@atl.lmco.com> <1079570039.4143.34.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1079696113.9693.13.camel@CirithUngol> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 16:33 -0800, Andrew Farris wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 15:41 -0500, Doug Stewart wrote: > > > Will Backman wrote: > > | On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 15:33, Doug Stewart wrote: > > | > > | > > |>What about those using nVidia/ATI binary drivers? What will the > > |>implications be for 3d acceleration? > > > Shazbot! > > > > Anyone contacted nVidia about morphing their drivers to fit X.org's server? > > > > - -- > > - ---------- > > Doug Stewart > > Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer > > Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs > I will be testing it as soon as my finals are over this week. Spring > break with xorg... I expect some problems and very little room to fix > them. Confirm the nVIDIA driver (version 53.36) works well on my custom kernel, 2.6.3-mm4, and xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.5. I haven't built and tested the kernel module for latest dev kernel yet but the primary issue is the XFree86 -> xorg change which works smoothly. Using yum I updated all other packages, excluding all xorg packages, and these others: yum --exclude=chkfontpath --exclude=anaconda --exclude=gdm \ --exclude=kdebase --exclude=xorg* update Then I removed openoffice.org (until tomorrow's build), Xtest, blackbox (freshRPMs, it requires XFree86), and the livna.org nvidia-glx combo (glx, kernel module, devel). Next I installed xorg via yum: yum install xorg* Then updated normally with yum again (which now updated the previously excluded packages). All XFree86 packages were removed and afaict the update is complete. The livna.org nvidia-glx package (FC1 package nvidia-driver-1.0.5336-0.lvn.3.1.src.rpm) directly requires XFree86 so I edited the spec to remove the require and rebuilt source rpm. The package build completed and installed cleanly afterward, driver up and running. -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From fedora at andrewfarris.com Fri Mar 19 11:47:23 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 03:47:23 -0800 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> Message-ID: <1079696843.9693.22.camel@CirithUngol> On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 12:19 +0100, Alexander Volovics wrote: > While trying to upgrade to the latest rawhide packages with up2date > today I encountered the following: > > There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > XFree86-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 > XFree86-devel-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 > XFree86-twm-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 > XFree86-xfs-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 > > Please modify your package selections and try again. > > I had upgraded to the complete set of XFree86-4.3.0-64 packages I use > (including all the above mentioned) without problems yesterday. > > Anybody else seen this? > > Alexander XFree86-libs is probably being removed in favor of xorg packages. Try updating with ignoring all the xorg packages and see if the dependencies still arise. Otherwise update directly to all the xorg package set (either download locally and use rpm -Uvh xorg*.rpm or yum install xorg*). Verify you are connected to a mirror that is in sync and has all the xorg packages available. I updated tonight from the USC mirror (the up2date sources entry for this mirror is below). yum fedora-development http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/updates -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From pmmm at rnl.ist.utl.pt Fri Mar 19 12:14:07 2004 From: pmmm at rnl.ist.utl.pt (Pedro Morais) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:14:07 +0000 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> Message-ID: <200403191214.07288.pmmm@rnl.ist.utl.pt> Em Sexta, 19 de Mar?o de 2004 06:38, Mike A. Harris escreveu: > Also, where did you get aalib and xine-libs from? I'd like to > download the src.rpm packages for those and see why they are > broken. I assume it is just a bogus dependancy, or incorrect > dependancy on the part of the packager. Judging from the .fr version tags, freshrpms.net Morais From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Mar 19 12:12:54 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:12:54 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079696843.9693.22.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Farris wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 12:19 +0100, Alexander Volovics wrote: > >> While trying to upgrade to the latest rawhide packages with up2date >> today I encountered the following: >> >> There was a package dependency problem. The message was: >> >> Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >> XFree86-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 >> XFree86-devel-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 >> XFree86-twm-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 >> XFree86-xfs-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 >> >> Please modify your package selections and try again. >> >> I had upgraded to the complete set of XFree86-4.3.0-64 packages I use >> (including all the above mentioned) without problems yesterday. >> >> Anybody else seen this? >> >> Alexander > > XFree86-libs is probably being removed in favor of xorg packages. Try > updating with ignoring all the xorg packages and see if the dependencies > still arise. Otherwise update directly to all the xorg package set > (either download locally and use rpm -Uvh xorg*.rpm or yum install > xorg*). > > Verify you are connected to a mirror that is in sync and has all the > xorg packages available. I updated tonight from the USC mirror (the > up2date sources entry for this mirror is below). > yum fedora-development > http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/updates I modified my yum update entry as above, and I still see the same result (above) reported by others. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWuPHMDqogpR5tkMRAuu0AJsH2vU7jtzD+rLsPUJgVfy0NpZZawCggnhW 0k6QUEiQlnSED8rglJ9M0vs= =XrVE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From awol at home.nl Fri Mar 19 12:54:51 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:54:51 +0100 Subject: After X.org update X won't start Message-ID: <20040319125451.GA2078@home.nl> After installing the xorg-x11*.rpms, editing /etc/ld.so.conf and running ldconfig 'startx' aborts with the follwing message: Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' So the automatic updating slips up somewhere? Alexander From fedora at andrewfarris.com Fri Mar 19 12:56:19 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:56:19 -0800 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079696843.9693.22.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 07:12 -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew Farris wrote: > > > On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 12:19 +0100, Alexander Volovics wrote: > > > >> While trying to upgrade to the latest rawhide packages with up2date > >> today I encountered the following: > >> > >> There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > >> > >> Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > >> XFree86-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 > >> XFree86-devel-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 > >> XFree86-twm-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 > >> XFree86-xfs-4.3.0-64 requires XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64 > >> > >> Please modify your package selections and try again. > >> > >> I had upgraded to the complete set of XFree86-4.3.0-64 packages I use > >> (including all the above mentioned) without problems yesterday. > >> > >> Anybody else seen this? > >> > >> Alexander > > > > XFree86-libs is probably being removed in favor of xorg packages. Try > > updating with ignoring all the xorg packages and see if the dependencies > > still arise. Otherwise update directly to all the xorg package set > > (either download locally and use rpm -Uvh xorg*.rpm or yum install > > xorg*). > > > > Verify you are connected to a mirror that is in sync and has all the > > xorg packages available. I updated tonight from the USC mirror (the > > up2date sources entry for this mirror is below). > > yum fedora-development > > > http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/fedora/1.90/i386/yum/updates > > I modified my yum update entry as above, and I still see the same result > (above) reported by others. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAWuPHMDqogpR5tkMRAuu0AJsH2vU7jtzD+rLsPUJgVfy0NpZZawCggnhW > 0k6QUEiQlnSED8rglJ9M0vs= > =XrVE > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Are you updating with an explicit exclusion of the xorg packages? They Obselete all of XFree86 (which is no longer on the mirror at all), so will cause major dependency problems if you don't exclude it completely; it still might when you do. I did see these same dependencies prior to the xorg update.. but I excluded xorg (also kdebase, chkfontpath, anaconda, gdm), updated, then installed xorg*. The choice is either update to xorg-x11 or work around these weird dependency issues for the rest of the testing cycle. yum --exclude=xorg* (or) yum install xorg* (I suppose you could install the offered 4.4 packages that have been posted to the list) -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From awol at home.nl Fri Mar 19 13:02:09 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:02:09 +0100 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079696843.9693.22.camel@CirithUngol> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079696843.9693.22.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <20040319130209.GB2078@home.nl> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 03:47:23AM -0800, Andrew Farris wrote: > XFree86-libs is probably being removed in favor of xorg packages. Try > updating with ignoring all the xorg packages and see if the dependencies > still arise. Otherwise update directly to all the xorg package set > (either download locally and use rpm -Uvh xorg*.rpm or yum install > xorg*). I suspected something like that but after downloading and installing the xorg-x11 packages X won't start anymore so I will first have to work around that problem :) Alexander From karsten at redhat.com Fri Mar 19 12:58:20 2004 From: karsten at redhat.com (Karsten Hopp) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:58:20 +0100 Subject: After X.org update X won't start In-Reply-To: <20040319125451.GA2078@home.nl> References: <20040319125451.GA2078@home.nl> Message-ID: <20040319125820.GA29704@redhat.com> > Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > > So the automatic updating slips up somewhere? > > Alexander > xfs got stopped during the update, run 'service xfs restart' Karsten -- Karsten Hopp GPG 1024D/70ABD02C Fingerprint D2D4 3B6B 2DE4 464C A432 210A DFF8 A140 70AB D02C Red Hat Deutschland, Hauptstaetter Str.58 70178 Stuttgart, Tel.+49-711-96437-0, Fax +49-711-96437-111 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Forgot to think before acting :) Alexander From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Mar 19 13:06:56 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:06:56 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [...] OK, I wasn't excluding xorg. Try again: sudo yum --exclude=xorg* update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) Server: fedora stable Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Released Updates Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies ....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package anaconda needs libXxf86misc.so.1, this is not available. Package gdm needs libXinerama.so.1, this is not available. Hmm, that looks familiar. Any ideas? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWvBwMDqogpR5tkMRAteZAJ9s0FK4xIKwjZorJb2jPkM0nqgaZACfb4ZR m5g9+ySBVh7Yd8dt+SlmaIg= =0a3D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 19 13:40:29 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:40:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: 3c905 bug in FCTest1? In-Reply-To: <64596.65.41.50.216.1079664569.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <65257.65.41.50.216.1079661853.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040319022209.GS8136@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <64596.65.41.50.216.1079664569.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <2253.12.29.16.103.1079703629.squirrel@12.29.16.103> William Hooper said: > > Charles R. Anderson said: > >> I had been running this fine under 2.6.3-1.118 (smp or uni), but now I >> can't get the card to work there either. I wonder if something fried >> the card... > > Yep, your errors look pretty much like mine. Did you also upgrade kudzu > recently? Unfortunately I didn't see what version I had that worked :-( > > Try: > > $ /sbin/chkconfig kudzu off > > The reboot. If that works, please add some info to the bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118715 -- William Hooper From fedora at andrewfarris.com Fri Mar 19 13:42:55 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 05:42:55 -0800 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 08:06 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > [...] > OK, I wasn't excluding xorg. Try again: > > sudo yum --exclude=xorg* update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Base > Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) > Server: fedora stable > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Released Updates > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > ....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package anaconda needs libXxf86misc.so.1, this is not available. > Package gdm needs libXinerama.so.1, this is not available. > > Hmm, that looks familiar. Any ideas? What I required. yum --exclude=xorg* --exclude=anaconda --exclude=gdm --exclude=kdebase --exclude=chkfontpath update rpm -e openoffice.org yum install xorg* yum update (tomorrow, mid afternoon perhaps) yum install openoffice.org The current available build is not yet compatible. Add up the excludes as they become necessary, remove it if need be and put it back afterward. Overall this was fairly smooth for me, but there are a few hitches. -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Mar 19 13:59:39 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:59:39 -0500 Subject: WARNING: Multiple same specifications for Message-ID: Last couple of updates I got this, any clue (should I be worried)? Running test transaction: WARNING: Multiple same specifications for /var/lost\+found(/.*)?. WARNING: Multiple same specifications for /var/a?quota.(user|group). WARNING: Multiple same specifications for /var/\.journal. From tibbs at math.uh.edu Fri Mar 19 14:06:24 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 19 Mar 2004 08:06:24 -0600 Subject: Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working? In-Reply-To: <405A52A5.3040603@rackable.com> References: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> <405A52A5.3040603@rackable.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "SF" == Samuel Flory writes: SF> I've done much with the 2880 lately as the 2881, and 2882 are more SF> interesting. As someone considering buying a bunch of 2882 boards, your comment worries me. Could you be more specific? SF> PS- List message tend to get lost in the crush of the messages. SF> So you might want to cc me. Stupid Reply-To: makes this difficult. - J< From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri Mar 19 14:13:08 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:13:08 -0700 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> Message-ID: <405AFFF4.3070609@xmission.com> Mike A. Harris wrote: >On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, RaXeT wrote: > > > >>I tried the xorg-x11 3_11.6 rpms with FC2 T1 and that wasn't my >>happy experience. It didn't install and I couldn't determine if >>the existing XFree86 config was being used after install. I had >>tried to do rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* and that didn't work... gave me >>: >> >>rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* >>error: Failed dependencies: >> XFree86 is needed by (installed) xine-lib-1.0.0-0.5.rc3.fr >> >> > >Bug in xine-lib rpm packaging. > > > >> XFree86 is needed by (installed) aalib-1.4rc5-4.fr >> >> > >Bug in aalib rpm packaging. > > > >> XFree86 is needed by (installed) openoffice.org-1.1.0-30 >> >> > >Bug in openoffice.org packaging, fixed in 1.1.0-32. > > > >> XFree86-truetype-fonts >= 4.2.0 is needed by (installed) >>VFlib2-2.25.6-19 >> >> > >Bug in VFlib2 packaging, fixed in VFlib2-2.25.6-21 > > > > >> XFree86-xfs is needed by (installed) chkfontpath-1.9.10-2 >> >> > >Bug in chkfontpath, fixed in chkfontpath-1.10.0-1 > > > >>Then I made the mistake of doing rpm -Uvh --nodeps xorg-x11-* >>and that didn't work so I went back to XFree86-4.3.0-59. >> >> > >The proper way to do it, is to upgrade to /all/ of the current >rawhide bits. openoffice might not be there yet. Then do: > >rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-*.rpm > > >Also, where did you get aalib and xine-libs from? I'd like to >download the src.rpm packages for those and see why they are >broken. I assume it is just a bogus dependancy, or incorrect >dependancy on the part of the packager > > Got them from http://yarrow.freshrpms.net/ Thanks RaXeT From tdiehl at rogueind.com Fri Mar 19 02:18:45 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:18:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: 3c905 bug in FCTest1? In-Reply-To: <65257.65.41.50.216.1079661853.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <65257.65.41.50.216.1079661853.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, William Hooper wrote: > > Well, I'm getting my test machine caught up with Rawhide after being down > for a few weeks and I ran across a familiar issue. With kudzu 1.1.53-1 > and kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 the NIC doesn't work and I get a lot of > "transmit errors" to the console. I rebooted back to kernel 2.6.3-2.1.242 > and with kudzu still enabled get the same errors. > > Without kudzu running lspci reports: > > 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang] > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 3 > I/O ports at de00 [size=effe0000] > Expansion ROM at 00010000 [disabled] Apparently they think this has something to do with the mii-tool interface. At least in Taroon. There is bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102685 which applies to Taroon and IIRC there is also 1 against FC1. FWIW they have a kernel patch listed as a fix for the Taroon bug but I tried it and I still cannot get boomerang cards to work. HTH, Tom From austran at mts.net Fri Mar 19 14:32:08 2004 From: austran at mts.net (Janusz Sadowski) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:32:08 -0600 Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 References: <000801c40d8f$9bb01870$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: <002f01c40dbf$01441450$dda8a18e@ripper> It looks like it's a kernel thing. One guy says he switched to kernel 2.6 on SUSE9.0 and got the same error. Thanks, Jake. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K,N,D Farnik" To: "'For testers of Fedora Core development releases'" Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:53 AM Subject: RE: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 > Tried that (also had previously set all the kernel params as per install > notes). > No luck :-( > > Thanks, Kym > > Hampus Linden > > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 > > > > > > Try: > > echo 1073741824 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax > > echo 4096 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmni > > echo 2097152 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmall > > > > Verify with: ipcs -lm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of K,N,D Farnik > > Sent: 18 March 2004 09:53 > > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com; joe at rawsonoaks.com > > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 > > > > Ok, whats the trick :-) > > > > I get a ORA-27125 Cannot create shared memory segment error > > when string > > to startup the database. > > (Same error during Oracle install when trying to create initial DB) > > > > Install worked ok after setting /etc/redhat-release to > > Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon) > > > > I also tried: export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 and ran dbca - no luck. > > > > I also tried setting vm.nr_hugepages = 256 in sysctl.conf (also sysctl > > -p) - no luck. > > > > TIA. Kym Farnik > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com > > > [mailto:fedora-test-list-admin at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joe Frohne > > > Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 0:39 > > > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > Subject: Re: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have installed 10g on FC2T1 with no problems at all. Everything > > > worked fine. Just remember to comment out the platform specific > > > check in the install scripts and you should be good to go. > > > > > > -- > > > Joe Frohne > > > Rawson Oaks Consulting, Remote Oracle Admins > > > http://www.rawsonoaks.com > > > joe at rawsonoaks.com or joe at frohne.org > > > Oak Creek, WI, USA > > > -- > > > There are no impossible dreams. > > > > > > > Has anyone tried to install Oracle 10g (10.1.0.2) on FC2T1? > > > > > > > > If so any joy? What issues? > > > > > > > > I am about to try it! > > > > > > > > TIA, Kym Farnik > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri Mar 19 14:06:50 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:06:50 +0100 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <405AFE7A.4030808@gmx.de> Andrew Farris wrote: >rpm -e openoffice.org >yum install xorg* >yum update > >(tomorrow, mid afternoon perhaps) yum install openoffice.org >The current available build is not yet compatible. > > $ date -u Fr M?r 19 14:05:28 UTC 2004 1.1.0-32 should be ok. lftp download.fedora.redhat.com:/pub/fedora/linux/core/development> ls i386/Fedora/RPMS/openoffice* -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 35451040 Mar 18 19:22 openoffice.org-1.1.0-32.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 48675702 Mar 18 19:23 openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.0-32.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 39870785 Mar 18 19:23 openoffice.org-libs-1.1.0-32.i386.rpm have you tried # yum update openoffice* # yum install xorg* -- shrek-m From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 19 14:46:42 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:46:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: 3c905 bug in FCTest1? In-Reply-To: References: <65257.65.41.50.216.1079661853.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <1438.12.29.16.103.1079707602.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Tom Diehl said: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, William Hooper wrote: > >> >> Well, I'm getting my test machine caught up with Rawhide after being >> down >> for a few weeks and I ran across a familiar issue. With kudzu 1.1.53-1 >> and kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 the NIC doesn't work and I get a lot of >> "transmit errors" to the console. I rebooted back to kernel >> 2.6.3-2.1.242 >> and with kudzu still enabled get the same errors. >> >> Without kudzu running lspci reports: >> >> 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX >> [Boomerang] >> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 3 >> I/O ports at de00 [size=effe0000] >> Expansion ROM at 00010000 [disabled] > > Apparently they think this has something to do with the mii-tool > interface. > At least in Taroon. There is bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102685 which applies > to Taroon and IIRC there is also 1 against FC1. FWIW they have a kernel > patch > listed as a fix for the Taroon bug but I tried it and I still cannot get > boomerang cards to work. Since FC2test1 and Taroon/FC1 use completely different kernel versions (2.6 vs 2.4) I'm not sure if this bug is caused by the same thing or not, but this one is definitely a regression. Everything worked with FC2Test1 until I updated to the most recent versions. Going back to the kernel that worked doesn't help either. -- William Hooper From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri Mar 19 13:03:06 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:03:06 +0200 Subject: After X.org update X won't start Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C1809C204@eemail1.microlink.lan> > > Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! > > > > Fatal server error: > > could not open default font 'fixed' > > > > So the automatic updating slips up somewhere? > > > > Alexander > > > > xfs got stopped during the update, run 'service xfs restart' > > Karsten You may even need to chkconfig --add xfs Fred From mike at netlyncs.com Fri Mar 19 15:00:11 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:00:11 -0600 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> <001701c40d74$cd1f1430$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079708411.1783.4.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 00:41, Mike A. Harris wrote: > 1) Upgrade to _all_ of the current packages from rawhide, not > just xorg-x11 Did. > 2) Run: rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-*.rpm Done, and it safely removed the XFree86 packages as well. Although, since mirrors hadn't sync'd up yet and didn't want to deal with the slow d/l speed from redhat.com site, there was still a conflict with openoffice, so just removed it since not really using it and will readd it later. Other than that it worked. > 3) You may need to add /usr/X11R6/lib (or lib64 on AMD64) to > ld.so.conf and run ldconfig afterward. Done. > After that, things should be rather smooth. So far everything seems to be working as I performed this on a workstation with all xorg packages, and a server with minimal packages and everything went fine. There is one bug so far, and that is rhgb (graphical boot) doesn't run. Whether that be just don't have the updated package to it to work with xorg, it hasn't been fixed/updated yet, or there is truely still a bug. Other than that, good job and all seems well so far :) -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From kslair at cvnet.co.kr Fri Mar 19 15:12:49 2004 From: kslair at cvnet.co.kr (Kenneth Lee) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:12:49 +0900 Subject: Mozilla dies so often! Message-ID: <1079709112.2546.6.camel@nature> I don't know yet this is because of the recent upgrade of xorg-x11. After all the updates available up to today, somehow, this Mozilla behaves so strangely. It so often dies and it is almost impossible to surf any more. This never happened to me until today's update including xorg-x11 and other minor rpms. Is this just me? From ksnider at flarn.com Fri Mar 19 15:20:25 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:20:25 -0500 Subject: Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working? In-Reply-To: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> References: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> Message-ID: <405B0FB9.60409@flarn.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charles Jones wrote: | I've tried the tg3 module, I've downloaded the bcm5700 module from Tyans | site and tried it too. Neither of them detect the dual onboard GigE | adapters. I've made sure the adapters are enabled in the BIOS, I've | tried booting with acpi=off, etc...I even removed all the PCI cards from | the machine to ensure there are no conflicts. I'm running out of ideas, | does anyone have this board and gotten the broadcom adapters working? | If anyone has any suggestions I would be glad to consider them as well. We have the s2880 working without issue here, albeit with FC1, not FC2. We use the provided tg3 driver. - -- Ken Snider -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAWw+4Jz/2kL0fCRgRAgr7AJ9xUkujNXlpx8daybWV5E9GviTAtACfSYP9 TZkMVCCG5tbW6OxR2AqjNDI= =4qPb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From roger at gwch.net Fri Mar 19 06:49:33 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:49:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: issues with recent updates and mail server help Message-ID: <46525.62.2.21.164.1079678973.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Hi Douglas, Here a short check-list for cyrus-imapd: a) do 'ps -ef | grep saslauthd' if you just get back your grep-line, saslauthd is not running and you cannot authenticate at all. 'service saslauthd start' runs it. don't forget to 'chkconfig --level 2345 salsauthd on' to start it automatically on boot-time. b) can you telnet to your port 143? do 'telnet localhost 143' in your shell if no, has your cyrus-imapd-daemon started? find someting like /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-master -d when you do ps -ef c)if you've up with your connection and opened your telnet-session, just try and type 'a01 login username "password" ' (yes use the " when typing the passwords) d) if you got connected and authenticated, it works. do 'a02 logout' ,this logs off your imap-session in the shell some errors i do always, while installing cyrus: - taking the false rpm's (seems not possible, delivered with FC2-T1) - not running saslauthd - hiding port 110/143 behind the firewall - wrong access-rights on the socket - false entries in /etc/imapd.conf: sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd sasl_mech_list: PLAIN ...those are right... ..should perhaps try to install it too on my FC2-"machine" HTH, say if its working or not Roger From pbender at qualcomm.com Fri Mar 19 15:57:04 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:57:04 -0800 Subject: Mozilla dies so often! In-Reply-To: <1079709112.2546.6.camel@nature> References: <1079709112.2546.6.camel@nature> Message-ID: <405B1850.4030101@qualcomm.com> I am running the latest from the development branch, including xorg-x11, and I have had not problems with Mozilla. Kenneth Lee wrote: > I don't know yet this is because of the recent upgrade of xorg-x11. > After all the updates available up to today, somehow, this Mozilla > behaves so strangely. It so often dies and it is almost impossible to > surf any more. > > This never happened to me until today's update including xorg-x11 and > other minor rpms. > > Is this just me? > > > From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Fri Mar 19 16:05:03 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:05:03 -0600 Subject: Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working? In-Reply-To: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> References: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> Message-ID: <20040319160503.GB14421@comcast.net> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 04:52:11PM -0700, Charles Jones wrote: > Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1smp > Tyan S2880 Motherboard > > I've tried the tg3 module, I've downloaded the bcm5700 module from Tyans > site and tried it too. Neither of them detect the dual onboard GigE > adapters. I've made sure the adapters are enabled in the BIOS, I've Does Fedora not configure this interface automatically? If not, please send me an lspci -v and and lspci -n. I will add things to hwdata so that we do not have this problem with FC2 at least. In the meantime, there were some issues initially with this board, which were fixed by BIOS upgrades, but I do not think this is a result. Justin From dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu Fri Mar 19 16:34:37 2004 From: dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu (Douglas McMorris) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:34:37 -0600 Subject: issues with recent updates and mail server help In-Reply-To: References: <1079656027.405a3e5bea833@webmailapp3.cc.utexas.edu> <1079657117.20104.821.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1079664596.405a5fd405819@webmailapp4.cc.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <1079714077.12144.0.camel@d-mak.homelinux.org> On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 22:52 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > I suggest you use dovecot, which is also included in FC. It is dead easy to > setup. Assuming you just want mail for real users. squirrelmail then > provides webmail with zero setup. Use anything that delivers to maildir > format to deliver the mail. cyrus handles delivery, but dovecot only is an > imap server. For delivery, I use maildrop, but others are possible. For a > client, I'm really enjoying kmail/disconnected imap. thanks, I'm using dovecot now and its working well... thanks for the help. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- <><--------------------- Douglas McMorris dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu From Baer at BaerSolutions.com Fri Mar 19 16:43:07 2004 From: Baer at BaerSolutions.com (R. Scott Baer) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:43:07 -0500 Subject: Updating failling with both yum Message-ID: <405B231B.7090305@BaerSolutions.com> I' installed FC2 Test 1, from the ISO's last week. I have been trying to update to the current devl version via yum I have googled, read the archives, both of which helped me.. but I'm still broken. I can't update. currently it says it has dependencies on XFree86 (see below). I am using yum ver: 2.0.5-20040310 my yum.conf is pointing to: ftp://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora-core/development/$basearch/ Could someone help me get updated to the current dev version please.. Thanks for your help, Scott [root at localhost root]# yum --exclude=XFree86 --exclude=XFree86-twm --exclude=XFree86-devel update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies ..Package XFree86 needs XFree86-xfs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not available. Package XFree86 needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not available. Package XFree86-twm needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not available. Package XFree86-devel needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not available. [root at localhost root]# From don.raikes at oracle.com Fri Mar 19 16:45:31 2004 From: don.raikes at oracle.com (donald raikes) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:45:31 -0700 Subject: yum issues with fc1/fc2 Message-ID: <200403191645.i2JGjXO21655@rgmgw5.us.oracle.com> Hi all, I have fedora core 1 installed on a compaq pc. I used bittorrent to download FC2-test1, and burned the cd images and tried to install from there. Unfortunately the install got clear to the end of the 4th cd and crashed. My next thought was to try yumming up to fc2. I got the appropriate yum and rpmdb-fedora packages from download.fedora.redhat.com, and installed them. When I run yum upgrade, I get a dependency error with XFree86 saying it isn't available. I went to http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS, and searched for the XFree86 packages, but they were not there. Any suggestions on how to proceed? From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Fri Mar 19 16:55:59 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:55:59 -0600 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CE@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Excuse my ignorance but is X.org 100% compatible with XFree86? I.E. are the ATI and nVidia drivers all going to work the same with X.org? Thanks -Scott -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Mike A. Harris Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:32 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: >> Now I'm >> worried how this will affect us if FC2 comes with a X.org server instead >> of XFree86. > >If I am not mistaken FC 2 will ship with both Xorg and XFree86-4.3.0 >(for which the new licence does not apply). XFree86 4.3.0 has been removed and replaced with X.org X11. There's no useful reason to ship 2 X11 implementations in one product. When you upgrade to xorg-x11, it automatically obsoletes and uninstalls the previous XFree86 packages (any version). Take care, TTYL -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From alan at redhat.com Fri Mar 19 17:00:49 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:00:49 -0500 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CE@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CE@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: <20040319170049.GA11830@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:55:59AM -0600, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > > Excuse my ignorance but is X.org 100% compatible with XFree86? I.E. are > the ATI and nVidia drivers all going to work the same with X.org? You'd have to ask Nvidia and ATI as we don't have their source code. I suspect the change should have no impact (ie it will work/fail with X.org in the same way as it currently behaves with XFree86) From deferraz at terra.com.br Fri Mar 19 17:02:30 2004 From: deferraz at terra.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Ferraz?=) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:02:30 -0300 Subject: Upgrading kernel to kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 kudzu removes my conf. Message-ID: <405B27A6.9020209@terra.com.br> Hi folks I`m using FC2-test1 , when i upgrade my kernel to kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 , on the next reboot, kudzu doesn`t find my ps2 port and my modem, the only option that i can choose is to remove my configuration, so i did, but if i execute kudzu again it doesnt find my ps2 port and my modem, so my X server crash saying that i dont have a mouse Any sugestions to add my ps2 port again ? Thank you From deferraz at terra.com.br Fri Mar 19 17:06:40 2004 From: deferraz at terra.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Ferraz?=) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:06:40 -0300 Subject: Mirrors with up2date Message-ID: <405B28A0.3040702@terra.com.br> When i execute up2date automatically it chooses a mirror, there`s some way that i can choose other mirror manually? Thanks From p1374953 at cedarville.edu Fri Mar 19 17:14:18 2004 From: p1374953 at cedarville.edu (Timothy Ryan Bierer) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:14:18 -0500 Subject: "all packages are currently up to date" Message-ID: <405B2A6A.8070303@cedarville.edu> Yet another message from me... Up2date reports that all packages are currently up to date, which they are not. Is anybody else having this problem? From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Mar 19 17:18:35 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:18:35 +0000 Subject: Evolution 1.5.5 Message-ID: <1079716714.2602.20.camel@T7.linux> Hi, libgal-2.2.so.0 libgal-a11y-2.2.so.0 libgtkhtml-3.1.so.6 gtkhtml-devel>=3.1.8 libgal2>=2:2.1.5 libgal2-devel>=2:2.1.5 libsoup-2.2.so.3 libsoup-devel>=2.1.5 are all required for Evolution 1..55 XFree86 is needed by libgnoneprint-1.116.0-9 I don't want to go back to 1.4.6 of Evolution (I like 1.5.5!). Is there anyway I can get around the above dependancies or should I install then do a yum update evolution (which I'm sure would work as yum will say that newer versions are installed)? TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From pauln at truemesh.com Fri Mar 19 17:26:20 2004 From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:26:20 +0000 Subject: Mirrors with up2date In-Reply-To: <405B28A0.3040702@terra.com.br> References: <405B28A0.3040702@terra.com.br> Message-ID: <20040319172619.GE3467@lichen.truemesh.com> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:06:40PM -0300, Andr? Ferraz wrote: > When i execute up2date automatically it chooses a mirror, there`s some > way that i can choose other mirror manually? create /etc/sysconfig/rhn/mirrors/ eg /etc/sysconfig/rhn/mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide Should be a list of urls - no comments allowed. Paul From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Fri Mar 19 18:05:40 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:05:40 -0600 Subject: "all packages are currently up to date" In-Reply-To: <405B2A6A.8070303@cedarville.edu> References: <405B2A6A.8070303@cedarville.edu> Message-ID: <405B3674.7060205@cec.wustl.edu> I get that a lot too; in fact I'm getting it right now. I thought it had something to do with headers.info being updaed before the packages get added, but I just checked and the packages are there (at mirrors.kernel.org at least). I get the same message for any of the mirrors I try. It always seems to be fixed by the next time I boot into Linux , though that it usually hours later). Anyone else seeing this? Richard Ayer III From jurgen at botz.org Fri Mar 19 18:16:26 2004 From: jurgen at botz.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Botz?=) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:16:26 -0800 Subject: Old Loki games binaries Message-ID: <405B38FA.40500@botz.org> Old Loki games binaries don't run for me anymore... did they under FC1. Anyone know of a work-around? :j -- J?rgen Botz | While differing widely in the various jurgen at botz.org | little bits we know, in our infinite | ignorance we are all equal. -Karl Popper From ryan at duff-duff.net Fri Mar 19 18:19:39 2004 From: ryan at duff-duff.net (Ryan Duff) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:19:39 -0500 Subject: "all packages are currently up to date" In-Reply-To: <405B3674.7060205@cec.wustl.edu> References: <405B2A6A.8070303@cedarville.edu> <405B3674.7060205@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:05:40 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > I get that a lot too; in fact I'm getting it right now. > I thought it had something to do with headers.info being updaed before > the packages get added, but I just checked and the packages are there (at > mirrors.kernel.org at least). I get the same message for any of the > mirrors I try. It always seems to be fixed by the next time I boot into > Linux , though that it usually hours later). > Anyone else seeing this? > > Richard Ayer III > > It might have something do do w/ the devel. freeze. Only major bug fixes should be added. Check the schedule at http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Ryan Duff From twanger at bluetwanger.de Fri Mar 19 18:36:49 2004 From: twanger at bluetwanger.de (Markus Bertheau) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:36:49 +0100 Subject: Evolution 1.5.5 In-Reply-To: <1079716714.2602.20.camel@T7.linux> References: <1079716714.2602.20.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1079721409.1993.0.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> ? ???, 19.03.2004, ? 18:18, Paul ?????: > I don't want to go back to 1.4.6 of Evolution (I like 1.5.5!). Is there > anyway I can get around the above dependancies or should I install then > do a yum update evolution (which I'm sure would work as yum will say > that newer versions are installed)? [evolution-unstable] name=Jeremy Katz' unstable Evolution Packages baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/katzj/evolution/ Have fun -- Markus Bertheau From manu at kromtek.com Fri Mar 19 18:32:25 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:32:25 +0400 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <20040319170049.GA11830@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CE@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <20040319170049.GA11830@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403192232.25245.manu@kromtek.com> Forgive me for my ignorance, isn't x.org too old the dates what i saw on the x.org site dates back to 2001 ? INSTALL.TXT, all the tars date back to 2001 ? Thanks, Manu On Friday 19 Mar 2004 9:00 pm, Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:55:59AM -0600, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > > Excuse my ignorance but is X.org 100% compatible with XFree86? I.E. are > > the ATI and nVidia drivers all going to work the same with X.org? > > You'd have to ask Nvidia and ATI as we don't have their source code. > I suspect the change should have no impact (ie it will work/fail with X.org > in the same way as it currently behaves with XFree86) From twanger at bluetwanger.de Fri Mar 19 18:46:20 2004 From: twanger at bluetwanger.de (Markus Bertheau) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:46:20 +0100 Subject: yum upgrade fails because of XFree86 Message-ID: <1079721980.1993.4.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> Hi, my machine is updated to two days old rawhide and when I now run yum update I get failed depedencies: Package XFree86-devel needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64, this is not available. Package XFree86-xfs needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64, this is not available. Package XFree86 needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64, this is not available. Package XFree86-twm needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-64, this is not available. What should I do? Thanks -- Markus Bertheau From sflory at rackable.com Fri Mar 19 18:52:43 2004 From: sflory at rackable.com (Samuel Flory) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:52:43 -0800 Subject: Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working? In-Reply-To: References: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> <405A52A5.3040603@rackable.com> Message-ID: <405B417B.3050408@rackable.com> Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>>>>>"SF" == Samuel Flory writes: > > > SF> I've done much with the 2880 lately as the 2881, and 2882 are more > SF> interesting. > > As someone considering buying a bunch of 2882 boards, your comment > worries me. Could you be more specific? The 2882's are more interesting in that they aren't missing 2 dimmn solts like the 2880. Which is important if you are planning on using 16G of memory or NUMA. The 2882 are just as much a pain in the ass as any other amd64 board. Just be sure to use qualified dimmns and test the memory throughly even then. > > SF> PS- List message tend to get lost in the crush of the messages. > SF> So you might want to cc me. > > Stupid Reply-To: makes this difficult. > > - J< -- There is no such thing as obsolete hardware. Merely hardware that other people don't want. (The Second Rule of Hardware Acquisition) Sam Flory From davesbrown at yahoo.com Fri Mar 19 18:48:20 2004 From: davesbrown at yahoo.com (David S. Brown) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:48:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Ati 3d, dri disabled Message-ID: <20040319184820.55621.qmail@web60308.mail.yahoo.com> I'm trying to get 3d acceleration to work on FC 1.90 with the latest up2date XFree packages and kernel 2.6.3-2.1-xxx but my XFree logs show the following lines: (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIScreenInit failed because of a version mismatch. [dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 1.9.0 but version 1.100.0 or newer is needed. [dri] Disabling DRI. I'm using an older ATI AIW radeon, detected as a 7200. Is there a fix for the version mismatching? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri Mar 19 19:30:34 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:30:34 +0100 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <200403192232.25245.manu@kromtek.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CE@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <20040319170049.GA11830@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403192232.25245.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <405B4A5A.9040003@gmx.de> Manu Abraham wrote: > Forgive me for my ignorance, isn't x.org too old the dates what i saw on the >x.org site dates back to 2001 ? INSTALL.TXT, all the tars date back to 2001 ? > http://xorg.freedesktop.org/ http://bugs.freedesktop.org/ xorg $ rpm -qip http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6.i386.rpm Name : xorg-x11 Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.0.6.6 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 0.0.2004_03_11.6 Build Date: Mi 17 M?r 2004 23:05:19 CET Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: tweety.devel.redhat.com Group : User Interface/X Source RPM: xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6.src.rpm Size : 39383781 License: MIT/X11, and others Signature : DSA/SHA1, Do 18 M?r 2004 15:46:15 CET, Key ID da84cbd430c9ecf8 Packager : Red Hat, Inc. URL : http://xorg.freedesktop.org Summary : The basic fonts, programs and docs for an X workstation. Description : XFree86 is an open source implementation of the X Window System. It provides the basic low level functionality which full fledged graphical user interfaces (GUIs) such as GNOME and KDE are designed upon. -- shrek-m From tibbs at math.uh.edu Fri Mar 19 19:54:38 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 19 Mar 2004 13:54:38 -0600 Subject: Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working? In-Reply-To: <405B417B.3050408@rackable.com> References: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> <405A52A5.3040603@rackable.com> <405B417B.3050408@rackable.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "SF" == Samuel Flory writes: SF> The 2882's are more interesting in that they aren't missing 2 SF> dimmn solts like the 2880. Which is important if you are planning SF> on using 16G of memory or NUMA. Ah, you mean that kind of "interesting". Sometimes it has a negative connotation, sometimes not. But the additional memory slots are why I'm looking at these boards; we need to do 8GB but 2GB DIMMs are prohibitively expensive. SF> The 2882 are just as much a pain in the ass as any other amd64 SF> board. Just be sure to use qualified dimmns and test the memory SF> throughly even then. I generally use Corsair DIMMs in servers and have never had a problem with them. Would you happen to know if these boards see any speed improvement when using DDR333 or DDR400 DIMMs? Fortunately I don't care about the SATA; these will be used exclusively for computation so all I really care about is a PATA disk to boot from, so it's just down to whether any of the three (!) network ports work and whether I can get my compilers to run. (We use the Portland Group suite.) - J< From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Fri Mar 19 19:56:08 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:56:08 -0500 Subject: Development images/boot.iso out of phase Message-ID: <20040319195608.GA29438@wolves.durham.nc.us> I mirror development from mirror.hiwaay.net, and today lots of things got touched, so its time for a fresh install... Except that the boot.iso doesn't match the tree (according to the message from stage2.) Is it just that hiwaay is not completely up to date or did someone forget to rebuild boot.iso? There has been mention of an alternative to using boot.iso for installing from Development, if so, a brief howto or pointer would be appreciated. Perhaps a pointer on making boot.iso? TIA -- Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury `-_-' Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us U RHCT August 2003 "The Line Eater is a boojum snark." Hug your wolf. From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri Mar 19 20:08:52 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:08:52 -0600 Subject: Development images/boot.iso out of phase In-Reply-To: <20040319195608.GA29438@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040319195608.GA29438@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <20040319200852.GB1499741@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Gregory Woodbury said: > Is it just that hiwaay is not completely up to date or did someone > forget to rebuild boot.iso? mirror.hiwaay.net is not yet up to date - RH is apparently doing something with the master servers (the one I used is not longer in DNS, and the one I'm now using is rather slow). I think some of the other mirrors are having similar problems. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Mar 19 20:11:41 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:11:41 +0000 Subject: Evolution 1.5.5 In-Reply-To: <1079721409.1993.0.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> References: <1079716714.2602.20.camel@T7.linux> <1079721409.1993.0.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> Message-ID: <1079727101.2602.22.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > I don't want to go back to 1.4.6 of Evolution (I like 1.5.5!). Is there > > anyway I can get around the above dependancies or should I install then > > do a yum update evolution (which I'm sure would work as yum will say > > that newer versions are installed)? > > [evolution-unstable] > name=Jeremy Katz' unstable Evolution Packages > baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/katzj/evolution/ I take it that I will be able to just reinstall then without breaking any of the stuff I've downloaded? TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Fri Mar 19 20:19:49 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:19:49 -0600 Subject: yum upgrade fails because of XFree86 In-Reply-To: <1079721980.1993.4.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> References: <1079721980.1993.4.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> Message-ID: <405B55E5.7030701@cec.wustl.edu> I just got that problem as well. I updated everything a couple at a time (expect switchdesk-4.0.1-1.1, which up2date never puts in the list of packages to select to be updated...anyway...), leaving only gdm-2.5.90.2-3:1 and then I got those failed dependencies. Have you already switched to the xorg packages? I haven't yet, and I think that might fix (though I'm not going to do it til late tonight); anyone else know if that's the case? Richard Ayer III From jonescr at cisco.com Fri Mar 19 20:29:46 2004 From: jonescr at cisco.com (Charles Jones) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:29:46 -0700 Subject: Update [Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working?] In-Reply-To: <20040319201949.1F82B74DC1@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040319201949.1F82B74DC1@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <405B583A.70205@cisco.com> Just thought I would let everyone know that it seems to be a problem with the mainboard, and I am exchanging it for a new one. I allready suspected it was a hardware problem when I couldn't get it to work, plus several people here saying it worked fine for them with the default tg3 driver. Further proof was the broadcom diagnostic tool that comes on the Tyan CD indicating that no broadcom adapters were detected. Other steps I took included clearing the CMOS, upgrading the BIOS, removing all the PCI cards from the system, disabling unnecessary options/roms like usb, serial/parallel, etc. Thanks to everyone who replied with with advice and assistance. -Charles Jones From villegas at math.gatech.edu Fri Mar 19 21:38:21 2004 From: villegas at math.gatech.edu (Carlos Villegas) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:38:21 -0500 Subject: Fresh LVM partitions don't work from kickstart Message-ID: <20040319213821.GC3630@hemi.math.gatech.edu> I kickstarted a FC2 test1 system with some lvm partitions specified in the ks.cfg file, however upon the first boot the system goes into single user mode, because it is unable to recognize the LVM partitions. The problem is that fsck fails (No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/largespace/tmp) and so on for every other LVM partition. Note that the partitions are NOT from a previous install, I have seen some reports on that, but not on a freshly created LVM partitioning. The relevant portions of the ks.cfg file are: clearpart --all --initlabel part pv.01 --fstype ext3 --size 10241 --grow volgroup largespace pv.01 logvol /tmp --vgname largespace --size 2048 --name tmp # some more logvol entries omitted. I haven't filed a bug report, since I'm not sure which package is the one holding the bug (I'm inclined to think is kernel, but it could be elsewhere, like dev, initscripts or even anaconda). The partitions are created properly, but the kernel doesn't seem to be able to deal with them: # lvm pvscan PV /dev/hda3 VG largespace lvm2 [99.40 GB / 89.39 GB free] Total: 1 [89.39 GB] / in use: 1 [89.39 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0 ] # lvm vgscan Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... Found volume group "largespace" using metadata type lvm2 # lvm lvscan /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such file or directory Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? inactive '/dev/largespace/tmp' [2.00 GB] next free (default) # lvm pvdisplay --- Physical volume --- PV Name /dev/hda3 VG Name largespace PV Size 99.40 GB / not usable 0 Allocatable yes PE Size (KByte) 4096 Total PE 25446 Free PE 22885 Allocated PE 2561 PV UUID kIHuk7-ZCY0-VAho-iOpl-Qa1o-gpBx-YwVztb # lvm lvdisplay /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such file or directory Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? --- Logical volume --- LV Name /dev/largespace/tmp VG Name largespace LV UUID ah222x-4yNI-AOMh-clbx-hRM7-xVjo-eLETZy LV Write Access read/write LV Status NOT available LV Size 2.00 GB Current LE 512 Segments 1 Allocation next free (default) Read ahead sectors 0 # lvm vgck largespace # echo $? 0 # uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.1-1.65smp #1 SMP Fri Jan 30 17:50:02 EST 2004 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux I excluded some more lvm partitions from the output above. The corresponding fstab entry for that partition is: /dev/largespace/tmp /tmp ext3 defaults 1 2 Carlos From wolters.liste at gmx.net Fri Mar 19 21:55:13 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:55:13 +0100 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <4058CCD2.3030103@qualcomm.com> References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> <4058CCD2.3030103@qualcomm.com> Message-ID: <200403192255.13665.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Installed xorg with 'yum install xorg*' (I had to remove aalib, cause it has unsolved dependencies, aalib comes together with some mplayer packages). There were the normal Warnings about /etc/security/selinux/file_contents, but everything went fine. After that xorg installation, x was not able to start: ld "x" respawning too fast: diabled for 5 minutes apt-get said, that kdebase has unsolved dependencies, yum update kdebase solved it. I make it like Paul Bender, point 2) and 3): Once upon a time Paul Bender wrote: > (2) xauth could not find libXmuu and xinit could not find libX11. I got > past this by adding /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and running ldconfig. > (3) xfs did not start automatically. I got past this by running "xfs > -droppriv -daemon" manually. Everything starts fine, now it works. What do I have to do to make the point three automatically? Roland From peter_banks at charter.net Fri Mar 19 22:15:27 2004 From: peter_banks at charter.net (Peter A. Banks) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:15:27 -0500 Subject: "all packages are currently up to date" In-Reply-To: <20040319201948.D6D3974D85@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Normally every morning I will FTP to a mirror site where I can get a fast download on the newest rawhide Fedora 1.90 distribution. After I have downloaded the newest stuff into a directory I have linked to /var/spool/update, I run up2date frequently It will take several attempts at this Before up2date will recognize that there are updated files available. BTW: sometimes it is faster to do these updates manually with the rpm utility than by waiting to let up2date figure out all the rpm dependencies. Regards pab From twanger at bluetwanger.de Fri Mar 19 22:28:09 2004 From: twanger at bluetwanger.de (Markus Bertheau) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:28:09 +0100 Subject: yum upgrade fails because of XFree86 In-Reply-To: <405B55E5.7030701@cec.wustl.edu> References: <1079721980.1993.4.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> <405B55E5.7030701@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <1079735289.1993.34.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> ? ???, 19.03.2004, ? 21:19, Richard Ayer III ?????: > I just got that problem as well. I updated everything a couple at a time > (expect switchdesk-4.0.1-1.1, which up2date never puts in the list of > packages to select to be updated...anyway...), leaving only > gdm-2.5.90.2-3:1 and then I got those failed dependencies. > Have you already switched to the xorg packages? I haven't yet, and I > think that might fix (though I'm not going to do it til late tonight); > anyone else know if that's the case? Well given that I need for example an updated openoffice.org I wonder how I should do either - yum update and yum install xorg-x11. I tried the following to no avail - thus the question - what should I do? [bert at yarrow bert]$ sudo yum --exclude=XFree86 --exclude=XFree86-xfs --exclude=XFree86-twm --exclude=XFree86-libs --exclude=XFree86-devel update ... Package XFree86-devel needs XFree86-libs that has been excluded. Package XFree86-xfs needs XFree86-libs that has been excluded. Package XFree86 needs XFree86-libs that has been excluded. Package XFree86-twm needs XFree86-libs that has been excluded. [bert at yarrow bert]$ -- Markus Bertheau From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Fri Mar 19 22:42:37 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:42:37 -0600 Subject: yum upgrade fails because of XFree86 References: <1079721980.1993.4.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de><405B55E5.7030701@cec.wustl.edu> <1079735289.1993.34.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> Message-ID: <001701c40e03$7be59230$72b9fc80@rwa1> try sudo yum --exclude=gdm update to get everything (including openoffice) updated before you try sudo yum install xorg-x11* and see if that works Richard Ayer III From w.steenburg at myactv.net Fri Mar 19 23:04:04 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:04:04 -0500 Subject: Updating failling with both yum In-Reply-To: <405B231B.7090305@BaerSolutions.com> References: <405B231B.7090305@BaerSolutions.com> Message-ID: <1079737444.2252.4.camel@FC2> On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 11:43 -0500, R. Scott Baer wrote: > I' installed FC2 Test 1, from the ISO's last week. I have been trying > to update to the current devl version via yum > I have googled, read the archives, both of which helped me.. but I'm > still broken. I can't update. > > currently it says it has dependencies on XFree86 (see below). > I am using yum ver: 2.0.5-20040310 > my yum.conf is pointing to: > ftp://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora-core/development/$basearch/ > > Could someone help me get updated to the current dev version please.. > > Thanks for your help, > > Scott > > > > > [root at localhost root]# yum --exclude=XFree86 --exclude=XFree86-twm > --exclude=XFree86-devel update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > ..Package XFree86 needs XFree86-xfs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not available. > Package XFree86 needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not available. > Package XFree86-twm needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not > available. > Package XFree86-devel needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not > available. > [root at localhost root]# > Try not upgrading any of the XFree86 and xorg (replacement for XFree86) packages yum --exclude=XFree86* --exclude=xorg* update Wayne From w.steenburg at myactv.net Fri Mar 19 23:09:12 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:09:12 -0500 Subject: Evolution 1.5.5 In-Reply-To: <1079727101.2602.22.camel@T7.linux> References: <1079716714.2602.20.camel@T7.linux> <1079721409.1993.0.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> <1079727101.2602.22.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1079737752.2252.6.camel@FC2> On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 20:11 +0000, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > > I don't want to go back to 1.4.6 of Evolution (I like 1.5.5!). Is there > > > anyway I can get around the above dependancies or should I install then > > > do a yum update evolution (which I'm sure would work as yum will say > > > that newer versions are installed)? > > > > [evolution-unstable] > > name=Jeremy Katz' unstable Evolution Packages > > baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/katzj/evolution/ > > I take it that I will be able to just reinstall then without breaking > any of the stuff I've downloaded? > > TTFN > > Paul > The name says it all :) From efthym at gmx.net Fri Mar 19 23:03:35 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:03:35 -0500 Subject: XFree86 failed dependencies Message-ID: Everything went fine with upgrade to xorg-x11 running rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* Only 2 notes : 1) Had to rpm -e the following error: Failed dependencies: XFree86 is needed by aalib-1.4rc5-4.fr XFree86 is needed by mpeg2dec-0.4.0-2b.fr XFree86 is needed by xine-lib-1.0.0-0.9.rc3b.fr 2) Still had to manually add /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig From sflory at rackable.com Fri Mar 19 23:52:17 2004 From: sflory at rackable.com (Samuel Flory) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:52:17 -0800 Subject: Anyone have Tyan S2880 (Dual Opteron) and got the onboard broadcom adapters working? In-Reply-To: <20040319160503.GB14421@comcast.net> References: <405A362B.4050204@cisco.com> <20040319160503.GB14421@comcast.net> Message-ID: <405B87B1.5040202@rackable.com> Justin M. Forbes wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 04:52:11PM -0700, Charles Jones wrote: > >>Kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1smp >>Tyan S2880 Motherboard >> >>I've tried the tg3 module, I've downloaded the bcm5700 module from Tyans >>site and tried it too. Neither of them detect the dual onboard GigE >>adapters. I've made sure the adapters are enabled in the BIOS, I've > > > Does Fedora not configure this interface automatically? If not, please send > me an lspci -v and and lspci -n. I will add things to hwdata so that we do > not have this problem with FC2 at least. > Having seen his lscpi output part of the problem is the nics aren't in it. Either the board is broken or the resource routing is really screwed up. > In the meantime, there were some issues initially with this board, which > were fixed by BIOS upgrades, but I do not think this is a result. -- There is no such thing as obsolete hardware. Merely hardware that other people don't want. (The Second Rule of Hardware Acquisition) Sam Flory From twanger at bluetwanger.de Sat Mar 20 00:00:21 2004 From: twanger at bluetwanger.de (Markus Bertheau) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 01:00:21 +0100 Subject: yum upgrade fails because of XFree86 In-Reply-To: <001701c40e03$7be59230$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1079721980.1993.4.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> <405B55E5.7030701@cec.wustl.edu> <1079735289.1993.34.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> <001701c40e03$7be59230$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079740820.1993.36.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> ? ???, 19.03.2004, ? 23:42, Richard Ayer III ?????: > try sudo yum --exclude=gdm update to get everything (including openoffice) > updated before you try sudo yum install xorg-x11* and see if that works- That seems to work. I'm in the process now. Thanks :) -- Markus Bertheau From yonasb at netzero.com Sat Mar 20 00:19:59 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonas abraham) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:19:59 -0500 Subject: xorg-x11 --my experience In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <405B8E2F.4010407@netzero.com> I did 1) yum update 2)yum install xorg-x11* 3) /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf 4)ldconfig 5)reboot After reboot, it try to startx and it failed. I thought, after it failed it will give it up trying to startx and give me the command line so that I can login and run service xfs restart and chkconfig --add xfs. but my computer keeps trying to startx and I waited like 2-3 mints and it never stop trying. I had to use a rescue mode to change my /etc/inittab from 5 to 3. after that I rebooted and login and run 1a) service xfs restart 2b)chkconfig --add xfs and edit my /etc/inittab to its default value (5) and reboot and every thing went smooth now the question is where did I went wrong? --thanks From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sat Mar 20 00:46:02 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:46:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: > What I required. > > yum --exclude=xorg* --exclude=anaconda --exclude=gdm --exclude=kdebase > --exclude=chkfontpath update > > rpm -e openoffice.org > yum install xorg* > yum update So is it ever planned that simply clicking on the rhn applet and running up2date from the panel should work? From bcs at metacon.ca Sat Mar 20 00:50:11 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:50:11 -0400 Subject: font differences between xorg vs. xfree86? Message-ID: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> Are my eyes deceiving me, or is "MiscFixed" not the same font in xorg as it was in XFree? I've been using MiscFixed in my shells for quite some time and was shocked at how bad it looked after switching to the xorg packages. This page illustrates what I mean: http://www.metacon.ca/bcs/miscfixed.html Any way to get the old look/font back? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 00:59:12 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:59:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <65286.65.41.50.216.1079744352.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Thomas Molina said: > So is it ever planned that simply clicking on the rhn applet and running > up2date from the panel should work? For the development tree, no. -- William Hooper From alan at redhat.com Sat Mar 20 01:28:49 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:28:49 -0500 Subject: font differences between xorg vs. xfree86? In-Reply-To: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> References: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> Message-ID: <20040320012849.GA26659@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:50:11PM -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > Are my eyes deceiving me, or is "MiscFixed" not the same font in xorg as > it was in XFree? I've been using MiscFixed in my shells for quite some > time and was shocked at how bad it looked after switching to the xorg > packages. It should certainly match 4.4. I'm not sure if the font changed from 4.3 (seems unlikely since it would be like demolishing historical monuments) or xterm has grown some new antaliasing and stuff. From rhally at mindspring.com Sat Mar 20 02:01:27 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:01:27 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <65286.65.41.50.216.1079744352.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:59 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Strange package dependency problem Thomas Molina said: > So is it ever planned that simply clicking on the rhn applet and running > up2date from the panel should work? For the development tree, no. -- William Hooper What makes you think so?? Doesn't it seem really stupid for so many people to be wasting so much time just trying to get their systems updated. (look back thru the past messages and see how many are about the problems with updating(yum and up2date both)). Perhaps Red Hat Inc. could put a little more effort into this fixing this bottleneck and reap the rewards of more productive time from the free(as in beer) labor they are getting from the "community" Richard Hally -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From swamper at adelphia.net Sat Mar 20 02:12:04 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:12:04 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <65286.65.41.50.216.1079744352.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> <65286.65.41.50.216.1079744352.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <20040320021204.GA16511@localhost.localdomain> William Hooper wrote: > Thomas Molina said: > > So is it ever planned that simply clicking on the rhn applet and running > > up2date from the panel should work? > > For the development tree, no. What are we gaining by breaking the package management system? From gbpeck at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 20 02:15:22 2004 From: gbpeck at sbcglobal.net (Gary Peck) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:15:22 -0800 Subject: xorg-x11 post-install problems Message-ID: <20040320021522.GA30566@realify.com> I just installed the latest xorg-x11 packages (xorg-x11-<...>.6). The install went very well, removing the old XFree86 packages correctly. However, I noticed a few problems afterwards (some have already been mentioned on this list): - xfs gets removed from chkconfig's management. I'm guessing that the "/sbin/chkconfig --del xfs" in XFree86-xfs's preuninstall gets run after "/sbin/chkconfig --add xfs" in xorg-x11-xfs's postinstall. - As mentioned many times, /usr/X11R6/lib gets removed from /etc/ld.so.conf. - Many video-related packages from freshrpms.net get removed. They all depend on aalib (also from freshrpms), which depends on XFree86. I'll email Matthias about this (if he's not on this list). - I use - to switch between applications. After logging into the new server, this no longer works. More specifically, letting go of doesn't remove the window list popup from the middle of the screen and doesn't actually switch to the selected application. I believe this is related to the next point: - The key on my keyboard used to be recognized as Mod4 (according to xev). It is now recognized as Super_L. It's also no longer considered a modifier key. gary From smearp at mac.com Sat Mar 20 02:53:28 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:53:28 -0800 Subject: "all packages are currently up to date" In-Reply-To: <405B3674.7060205@cec.wustl.edu> References: <405B2A6A.8070303@cedarville.edu> <405B3674.7060205@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: Good! I thought that it was only me! I filed it in Bugzilla last Tuesday. Please jump on and add your comments! -Sean https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118498 On Mar 19, 2004, at 10:05 AM, Richard Ayer III wrote: > I get that a lot too; in fact I'm getting it right now. > I thought it had something to do with headers.info being updaed before > the packages get added, but I just checked and the packages are there > (at mirrors.kernel.org at least). I get the same message for any of > the mirrors I try. It always seems to be fixed by the next time I boot > into Linux , though that it usually hours later). > Anyone else seeing this? > > Richard Ayer III > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > GPG public key: From n1kx at cox.net Sat Mar 20 02:56:08 2004 From: n1kx at cox.net (Davis Whittaker) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:56:08 -0500 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: <20040320021533.685077359A@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040320021533.685077359A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079751368.3987.18.camel@sasebo> I had the same issues, and this is pretty much how I got it done: Resolved aalib and openoffice.org problems by removing them first: $ rpm -e aalib (required also removing xine) $ rpm -e openoffice.org Then installed xorg: $ yum -y install xorg* Once that was done, I had to add the /usr/X11R6/lib entry back to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig. Then with the libraries properly located, i restarted xfs: $ service xfs restart X then was functional, so I restored the rest of the stuff I broke upgrading: Re-installed aalib and xine (already had the rpms) and fired yum up again to reinstall/update openoffice.org. $ yum -y install openoffice.org Seems a bit of a ramble, but it is a test release and everything works now and the system is happy. As for making it happen automatically - won't matter once the release is complete - should go in slick as a goose from the CD when installed. It's just those of us who like to play with the test releases that have to fiddle around a bit. Dave |"If it was all easy, it wouldn't be any fun." > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:55:13 +0100 > From: Roland Wolters > Subject: Re: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in > rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <200403192255.13665.wolters.liste at gmx.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Installed xorg with 'yum install xorg*' > (I had to remove aalib, cause it has unsolved dependencies, aalib comes > together with some mplayer packages). > There were the normal Warnings about /etc/security/selinux/file_contents, but > everything went fine. > After that xorg installation, x was not able to start: > > ld "x" respawning too fast: diabled for 5 minutes > > apt-get said, that kdebase has unsolved dependencies, yum update kdebase > solved it. > > I make it like Paul Bender, point 2) and 3): > > Once upon a time Paul Bender wrote: > > (2) xauth could not find libXmuu and xinit could not find libX11. I got > > past this by adding /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and running ldconfig. > > (3) xfs did not start automatically. I got past this by running "xfs > > -droppriv -daemon" manually. > > Everything starts fine, now it works. > What do I have to do to make the point three automatically? > > Roland From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 03:00:07 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:00:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: References: <65286.65.41.50.216.1079744352.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <65133.65.41.50.216.1079751607.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Richard Hally said: > Thomas Molina said: >> So is it ever planned that simply clicking on the rhn applet and running >> up2date from the panel should work? > > For the development tree, no. > > -- > William Hooper > > What makes you think so?? Doesn't it seem really stupid for so many people > to be wasting so much time just trying to get their systems updated. (look > back thru the past messages and see how many are about the problems with > updating(yum and up2date both)). Perhaps Red Hat Inc. could put a little > more effort into this fixing this bottleneck and reap the rewards of more > productive time from the free(as in beer) labor they are getting from the > "community" Unless you have some magically way of all packages that depend on a new package get updated, then you have this problem. That's why development is described as "These packages are untested and still under development." The alternative is to slow development to a craw so that everything can be kept in sync. Take a look at how long is planned between the devel freeze and a test release and you will see why this makes no sense. If it bothers you that much, just pick a certain set of packages you want to test and only update them. Or, don't update anything until you find a bug, then update and see if it is fixed. -- William Hooper From cmadams at hiwaay.net Sat Mar 20 03:00:28 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:00:28 -0600 Subject: font differences between xorg vs. xfree86? In-Reply-To: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> References: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> Message-ID: <20040320030028.GB1252769@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Ben Steeves said: > Are my eyes deceiving me, or is "MiscFixed" not the same font in xorg as > it was in XFree? I've been using MiscFixed in my shells for quite some > time and was shocked at how bad it looked after switching to the xorg > packages. The old font is also known by the name "6x13" in the old X font system. Has someone switch xterm to the new font way (and if so is the old "6x13" available)? If I can't get 6x13 for xterm, I will not be upgrading ever again! :-) -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 03:02:34 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:02:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <20040320021204.GA16511@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> <65286.65.41.50.216.1079744352.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040320021204.GA16511@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <64890.65.41.50.216.1079751754.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Swamper said: > William Hooper wrote: >> Thomas Molina said: >> > So is it ever planned that simply clicking on the rhn applet and >> running >> > up2date from the panel should work? >> >> For the development tree, no. > > What are we gaining by breaking the package management system? Unless you are forcing packages I don't see how the package management system is being broken. To the contrary, the package management system is working as designed because it won't let you install packages that would break dependencies on installed packages. Maybe we should go back to the old way of making everyone manually download and update packages so that people won't complain about yum and up2date not working... -- William Hooper From swamper at adelphia.net Sat Mar 20 03:36:39 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:36:39 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <64890.65.41.50.216.1079751754.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> <65286.65.41.50.216.1079744352.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040320021204.GA16511@localhost.localdomain> <64890.65.41.50.216.1079751754.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <20040320033639.GA16802@localhost.localdomain> William Hooper wrote: > Swamper said: > > William Hooper wrote: > >> Thomas Molina said: > >> > So is it ever planned that simply clicking on the rhn applet and > >> running > >> > up2date from the panel should work? > >> > >> For the development tree, no. > > > > What are we gaining by breaking the package management system? > > Unless you are forcing packages I don't see how the package management > system is being broken. To the contrary, the package management system is > working as designed because it won't let you install packages that would > break dependencies on installed packages. > > Maybe we should go back to the old way of making everyone manually > download and update packages so that people won't complain about yum and > up2date not working... Are you complaining about people complaining? Maybe they are complaining because yum and up2date are not working? Why don't either of those programs just skip the packages that are having problems and continue on? Yum is on auto-pilot now but it is just wasting time with updated packages that don't have dependency problems held back because of the ones that do. So we go in there and show it what to do manually. With this system we don't need to go back to the old way of doing everything manually because we are still there. The package management system is not working when it holds up multiple packages in the queue that don't have dependency problems for one or two that do. If that is the way the package management system is designed then maybe it should go back to the drawing board. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 03:54:24 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:54:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <20040320033639.GA16802@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> <65286.65.41.50.216.1079744352.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040320021204.GA16511@localhost.localdomain> <64890.65.41.50.216.1079751754.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040320033639.GA16802@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <64607.65.41.50.216.1079754864.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Swamper said: > William Hooper wrote: >> Swamper said: >> > William Hooper wrote: >> >> Thomas Molina said: >> >> > So is it ever planned that simply clicking on the rhn applet and >> >> running >> >> > up2date from the panel should work? >> >> >> >> For the development tree, no. >> > >> > What are we gaining by breaking the package management system? >> >> Unless you are forcing packages I don't see how the package management >> system is being broken. To the contrary, the package management system >> is >> working as designed because it won't let you install packages that would >> break dependencies on installed packages. >> >> Maybe we should go back to the old way of making everyone manually >> download and update packages so that people won't complain about yum and >> up2date not working... > > Are you complaining about people complaining? Maybe they are > complaining because yum and up2date are not working? up2date and yum are working just fine. > Why don't > either of those programs just skip the packages that are having > problems and continue on? Because that isn't what they are designed to do. [snip] > The package management system is not working when it holds up > multiple packages in the queue that don't have dependency > problems for one or two that do. The package management system is continuing to provide you with a consistent system and not breaking your existing packages. > If that is the way the package > management system is designed then maybe it should go back to > the drawing board. Let us know when you have code to test. -- William Hooper From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 04:04:23 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:04:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <64607.65.41.50.216.1079754864.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <20040319111936.GA2244@home.nl> <1079700978.9693.33.camel@CirithUngol> <200403190806.59111.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1079703774.9693.39.camel@CirithUngol> <65286.65.41.50.216.1079744352.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040320021204.GA16511@localhost.localdomain> <64890.65.41.50.216.1079751754.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040320033639.GA16802@localhost.localdomain> <64607.65.41.50.216.1079754864.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <64967.65.41.50.216.1079755463.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Let me expand on this so it doesn't sound so harsh... William Hooper said: >> Are you complaining about people complaining? Maybe they are >> complaining because yum and up2date are not working? > > up2date and yum are working just fine. The package tree is broken. Since this is development, this is not unexpected. >> Why don't >> either of those programs just skip the packages that are having >> problems and continue on? > > Because that isn't what they are designed to do. I want to know where there are problems so I can find out if they are on my side or if the tree is broken. > [snip] > >> The package management system is not working when it holds up >> multiple packages in the queue that don't have dependency >> problems for one or two that do. > > The package management system is continuing to provide you with a > consistent system and not breaking your existing packages. > >> If that is the way the package >> management system is designed then maybe it should go back to >> the drawing board. > > Let us know when you have code to test. The time spend coding these features for a condition that shouldn't happen in Real Life(TM) doesn't make sense. It makes more sense to put that time into FC2 Test2 (which by definition will be a non-broken tree). And no, a Test1 release is not Real Life(TM). I'm sure that if you came up with some good quality patches that Seth would look at them, but from where I'm sitting it is a waste of precious developer time. -- William Hooper From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 04:19:37 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:19:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: "all packages are currently up to date" In-Reply-To: References: <405B2A6A.8070303@cedarville.edu> <405B3674.7060205@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <64886.65.41.50.216.1079756377.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Sean Earp said: > Good! I thought that it was only me! I filed it in Bugzilla last > Tuesday. Please jump on and add your comments! Could this be because the new up2date pulls updates from a mirror? I believe rhn-applet gets the headers from download.fedora.redhat.com, so if the mirror you are checking hasn't updated yet (which seems to be a bigger problem lately) up2date doesn't find anything new. With FC1 both up2date and rhn-applet would use whatever was configured in the /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file, so both were looking at the same set of headers. -- William Hooper From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat Mar 20 04:27:44 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:27:44 -0500 Subject: Development images/boot.iso out of phase In-Reply-To: <20040319200852.GB1499741@hiwaay.net> References: <20040319195608.GA29438@wolves.durham.nc.us> <20040319200852.GB1499741@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <405BC840.4040805@insight.rr.com> Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Gregory Woodbury said: > >>Is it just that hiwaay is not completely up to date or did someone >>forget to rebuild boot.iso? > > > mirror.hiwaay.net is not yet up to date - RH is apparently doing > something with the master servers (the one I used is not longer in DNS, > and the one I'm now using is rather slow). I think some of the other > mirrors are having similar problems. I used hiwaay on the 17th with the boot.iso. The installation completed normally. It even setup the soundcard correctly. I did have problems relating to SELinux not setting the users (both super user and normal users) directories permissions correctly. It did detect the soundcard upon installation and would work fair without SELinux enabled. With the changeover to xorg and a few refinements performed to SELinux according to the last build report that I saw. I was wanting to try an upgrade http installation on the 17th installation. If this didn't turn out positive results, I would do another fresh install. Now since I stated my current activity. I was wondering if the goal of other testers was to do fresh installs or upgrades because of the high package rate of change. I think that SELinux on clean installations and on upgraded installations needs to be tested. Also the xorg fresh installion needs to be tested. Who is testing out the xorg transition and who is concentrating on SELinux. (Or the combination of the two.) SELinux and gdm did not work out well on the 17th installation. I was able to log into mingetty terminals, but with file permissions all messed up. When the servers get into sync, if not already, pass on the info. The tree is stable enough for installation. (at least on the 17th) Jim From rhally at mindspring.com Sat Mar 20 04:41:38 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:41:38 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <64967.65.41.50.216.1079755463.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:04 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Strange package dependency problem Let me expand on this so it doesn't sound so harsh... William Hooper said: >> Are you complaining about people complaining? Maybe they are >> complaining because yum and up2date are not working? > * up2date and yum are working just fine. Bulls*!t, sometimes they just hang, sometimes they blow chunks. Take a look at the number of bugs that have been filed on them. Doesn't that give you a clue that something is wrong? The package tree is broken. Since this is development, this is not unexpected. Dependencies are sometimes fixed the next day. Maybe a little test before the days build is released would catch some of these. And the messages could be improved to describe what needs to be excluded!! >> Why don't >> either of those programs just skip the packages that are having >> problems and continue on? > > Because that isn't what they are designed to do. I want to know where there are problems so I can find out if they are on my side or if the tree is broken. > [snip] > >> The package management system is not working when it holds up >> multiple packages in the queue that don't have dependency >> problems for one or two that do. > > The package management system is continuing to provide you with a > consistent system and not breaking your existing packages. > >> If that is the way the package >> management system is designed then maybe it should go back to >> the drawing board. > > Let us know when you have code to test. The time spend coding these features for a condition that shouldn't happen in Real Life(TM) doesn't make sense. It makes more sense to put that time into FC2 Test2 (which by definition will be a non-broken tree). And no, a Test1 release is not Real Life(TM). Imo, you just don't get. Things Happen(tm), more robust programs handle them and especially in a network environment it is important to do so. And I not just talking about "dependencies". I'm sure that if you came up with some good quality patches that Seth would look at them, but from where I'm sitting it is a waste of precious developer time. If you don't you think volunteer time is more precious than "developer" time think about doing without it. Every hour spent by a developer on making improvements in this fundamental facility will save tens or hundreds of hours of other peoples time. That savings could be better spent on the areas in which they are interested. In my case, SE Linux, which some people seem to think is holding up the whole mess. And further more, an addition to the hardware and bandwidth supporting downloads would also payoff handsomely as well. Richard Hally From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sat Mar 20 04:48:49 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:48:49 -0600 Subject: "all packages are currently up to date" References: <405B2A6A.8070303@cedarville.edu> <405B3674.7060205@cec.wustl.edu> <64886.65.41.50.216.1079756377.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <001a01c40e36$a5de03f0$72b9fc80@rwa1> William Hooper said: >Could this be because the new up2date pulls updates from a mirror? I >believe rhn-applet gets the headers from download.fedora.redhat.com, so if >the mirror you are checking hasn't updated yet (which seems to be a bigger >problem lately) up2date doesn't find anything new. I've had it happen with download.fedora.redhat.com, today in fact. Richard Ayer III From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat Mar 20 05:00:04 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:00:04 -0500 Subject: font differences between xorg vs. xfree86? In-Reply-To: <20040320030028.GB1252769@hiwaay.net> References: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> <20040320030028.GB1252769@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <405BCFD4.5090307@insight.rr.com> Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Ben Steeves said: > >>Are my eyes deceiving me, or is "MiscFixed" not the same font in xorg as >>it was in XFree? I've been using MiscFixed in my shells for quite some >>time and was shocked at how bad it looked after switching to the xorg >>packages. > > > The old font is also known by the name "6x13" in the old X font system. > Has someone switch xterm to the new font way (and if so is the old > "6x13" available)? > > If I can't get 6x13 for xterm, I will not be upgrading ever again! :-) I thought that the fonts on the right looked more readable and with better contrast. Basically, it is probably a human factor of observations. What's up with the spy.png? Jim From bcs at metacon.ca Sat Mar 20 05:05:20 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 01:05:20 -0400 Subject: font differences between xorg vs. xfree86? In-Reply-To: <20040320030028.GB1252769@hiwaay.net> References: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> <20040320030028.GB1252769@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1079759120.2681.13.camel@ripley> On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 23:00, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Ben Steeves said: > > Are my eyes deceiving me, or is "MiscFixed" not the same font in xorg as > > it was in XFree? I've been using MiscFixed in my shells for quite some > > time and was shocked at how bad it looked after switching to the xorg > > packages. > > The old font is also known by the name "6x13" in the old X font system. > Has someone switch xterm to the new font way (and if so is the old > "6x13" available)? It's still installed... if I do "xterm -fn 6x13", I get my old friend back. The problem is, I like using gnome-terminal, and can't for the life of me figure out how to tell it to use "6x13". -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From bcs at metacon.ca Sat Mar 20 05:09:45 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 01:09:45 -0400 Subject: font differences between xorg vs. xfree86? In-Reply-To: <405BCFD4.5090307@insight.rr.com> References: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> <20040320030028.GB1252769@hiwaay.net> <405BCFD4.5090307@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1079759385.2681.17.camel@ripley> On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 01:00, Jim Cornette wrote: > > The old font is also known by the name "6x13" in the old X font system. > > Has someone switch xterm to the new font way (and if so is the old > > "6x13" available)? > > > > If I can't get 6x13 for xterm, I will not be upgrading ever again! :-) > > I thought that the fonts on the right looked more readable and with > better contrast. Basically, it is probably a human factor of observations. > > What's up with the spy.png? The picture doesn't do justice to how awful the "new" font really looks. The spacing is totally screwed up, and quite often parts of letters get overwritten as you type. The contrast difference is probably because the back of the window on the left is slightly blue. I should have changed it to black before taking the screen shot. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From notting at redhat.com Sat Mar 20 05:16:42 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:16:42 -0500 Subject: font differences between xorg vs. xfree86? In-Reply-To: <1079759385.2681.17.camel@ripley> References: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> <20040320030028.GB1252769@hiwaay.net> <405BCFD4.5090307@insight.rr.com> <1079759385.2681.17.camel@ripley> Message-ID: <20040320051642.GD13258@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Ben Steeves (bcs at metacon.ca) said: > > What's up with the spy.png? > > The picture doesn't do justice to how awful the "new" font really > looks. The spacing is totally screwed up, and quite often parts of > letters get overwritten as you type. It's a plain-old bug. It's using the wrong font (not the one you specified.) It's in bugzilla somewhere. Bill From mharris at redhat.com Sat Mar 20 05:42:31 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:42:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Ati 3d, dri disabled In-Reply-To: <20040319184820.55621.qmail@web60308.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040319184820.55621.qmail@web60308.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, David S. Brown wrote: >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:48:20 -0800 (PST) >From: David S. Brown >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >X-BeenThere: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Subject: Ati 3d, dri disabled > >I'm trying to get 3d acceleration to work on FC 1.90 >with the latest up2date XFree packages and kernel >2.6.3-2.1-xxx but my XFree logs show the following >lines: > >(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIScreenInit failed >because of a version mismatch. >[dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 1.9.0 but >version 1.100.0 or newer is needed. >[dri] Disabling DRI. > >I'm using an older ATI AIW radeon, detected as a 7200. > Is there a fix for the version mismatching? You are using unsupported GATOS drivers from http://gatos.sf.net. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Sat Mar 20 05:43:44 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:43:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <405B4A5A.9040003@gmx.de> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CE@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <20040319170049.GA11830@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403192232.25245.manu@kromtek.com> <405B4A5A.9040003@gmx.de> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: >Packager : Red Hat, Inc. >URL : http://xorg.freedesktop.org >Summary : The basic fonts, programs and docs for an X workstation. >Description : >XFree86 is an open source implementation of the X Window System. It >provides the basic low level functionality which full fledged >graphical user interfaces (GUIs) such as GNOME and KDE are designed >upon. Whoopsie... I thought I updated the package descriptions. I guess I never commited that to CVS. /me makes a note on his TODO list to fix that. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Sat Mar 20 05:49:45 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:49:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: font differences between xorg vs. xfree86? In-Reply-To: <20040320012849.GA26659@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1079743811.2681.11.camel@ripley> <20040320012849.GA26659@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Alan Cox wrote: >> Are my eyes deceiving me, or is "MiscFixed" not the same font in xorg as >> it was in XFree? I've been using MiscFixed in my shells for quite some >> time and was shocked at how bad it looked after switching to the xorg >> packages. > >It should certainly match 4.4. I'm not sure if the font changed from >4.3 (seems unlikely since it would be like demolishing historical >monuments) or xterm has grown some new antaliasing and stuff. xterm has had the option of doing antialiasing since XFree86 4.2.0 or possibly even 4.1.0, not sure. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From davesbrown at yahoo.com Sat Mar 20 06:16:29 2004 From: davesbrown at yahoo.com (David S. Brown) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:16:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Ati 3d, dri disabled In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040320061629.97432.qmail@web60310.mail.yahoo.com> I thought that might have been the problem, now I need to figure out how to remove them. --- "Mike A. Harris" wrote: > On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, David S. Brown wrote: > > >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:48:20 -0800 (PST) > >From: David S. Brown > >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development > releases > > > >X-BeenThere: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >Subject: Ati 3d, dri disabled > > > >I'm trying to get 3d acceleration to work on FC > 1.90 > >with the latest up2date XFree packages and kernel > >2.6.3-2.1-xxx but my XFree logs show the following > >lines: > > > >(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIScreenInit failed > >because of a version mismatch. > >[dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 1.9.0 but > >version 1.100.0 or newer is needed. > >[dri] Disabling DRI. > > > >I'm using an older ATI AIW radeon, detected as a > 7200. > > Is there a fix for the version mismatching? > > You are using unsupported GATOS drivers from > http://gatos.sf.net. > > > -- > Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris > OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Sat Mar 20 07:40:17 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:40:17 +0100 Subject: please add maildrop In-Reply-To: <200403180716.30528.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <1079564241.2579.34.camel@wraith.lrp.advansoft.us> <20040317161927.A7342@mail.harddata.com> <200403180716.30528.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040320084017.0e464fe0.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:16:30 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > 2) I know basics of rpm spec files but need to learn a bit more about details, > and I'm not sure where to get educated With existing, old and potentially out-of-date documentation at www.rpm.org (an online version of Ed Bailey's [old] Maximum RPM book is available there, too) and websites distributed over the Internet. Or with the much more recent "Red Hat RPM Guide": http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764549650/qid=1079768198 > 3) Step 1 said to submit introduction. I tried this about 3 times and it > seems my mail disappeared into the ether. So I never progressed past this > step. Still you are able to post here just fine currently. (!?) -- From spam at tachegroup.com Sat Mar 20 07:43:11 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 02:43:11 -0500 Subject: MD5 Signatures Message-ID: I am seeing a lot of MD5 NO OK on the latest packages when doing a rpm -K. Is this right? Packages in the kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1, rpm-4.3.0.22, up2date-4.3.11-2.1.1 for instance. From georg at georgs.org Sat Mar 20 07:53:15 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:53:15 +0100 Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <405BF86B.3040509@georgs.org> TGS schrieb: >I am seeing a lot of MD5 NO OK on the latest packages when doing a rpm -K. > >Is this right? > > No it is never right if MD5 is not OK, greetings Georg E Schneider From georg at georgs.org Sat Mar 20 07:56:51 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:56:51 +0100 Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <405BF943.9070709@georgs.org> TGS schrieb: >I am seeing a lot of MD5 NO OK on the latest packages when doing a rpm -K. > >Is this right? > > Sorry for the 2nd mail MD5 is checksum not signature if the signature is wrong you can ingnore it if you want and check the package with rpm -K --nosignature greetings Georg E Schneider From jsolomon at comcast.net Sat Mar 20 09:01:21 2004 From: jsolomon at comcast.net (Jonathan Solomon) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 04:01:21 -0500 Subject: xorg-x11 post-install problems Message-ID: <200403200401.31891.jsolomon@comcast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Check your XF86Config. I found the keyboard model on mine had been reset to pc105 from microsoftpro even though it left the video settings alone. > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:15:22 -0800 > From: Gary Peck > Subject: xorg-x11 post-install problems > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <20040320021522.GA30566 at realify.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I just installed the latest xorg-x11 packages (xorg-x11-<...>.6). The > install went very well, removing the old XFree86 packages correctly. > However, I noticed a few problems afterwards (some have already been > mentioned on this list): > > - xfs gets removed from chkconfig's management. I'm guessing that the > ? "/sbin/chkconfig --del xfs" in XFree86-xfs's preuninstall gets run > ? after "/sbin/chkconfig --add xfs" in xorg-x11-xfs's postinstall. > > - As mentioned many times, /usr/X11R6/lib gets removed from > ? /etc/ld.so.conf. > > - Many video-related packages from freshrpms.net get removed. They all > ? depend on aalib (also from freshrpms), which depends on XFree86. I'll > ? email Matthias about this (if he's not on this list). > > - I use - to switch between applications. After logging into > ? the new server, this no longer works. More specifically, letting go of > ? doesn't remove the window list popup from the middle of the > ? screen and doesn't actually switch to the selected application. I > ? believe this is related to the next point: > > - The key on my keyboard used to be recognized as Mod4 (according > ? to xev). It is now recognized as Super_L. It's also no longer > ? considered a modifier key. > > gary > - -- Jonathan Solomon jsolomon at comcast.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAXAhmZ2EsOMkegxgRAnxOAJ9E7tdNstu+7ux2F4ZqN/rdzwfCkgCfVb/C uJRd9a2cDSO5T8y26ggoj5M= =9bV1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stephen at skmoore.com Sat Mar 20 09:57:41 2004 From: stephen at skmoore.com (Stephen Moore) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:57:41 +1000 Subject: My gnome session wont start, howto troubleshoot Message-ID: <405C1595.7090904@skmoore.com> Last time i booted I had to log into root before i could log into my account. This time i simply can't log into my gnome account (using kde now) The splash screen comes up but nothing else. I think the window manager icon should flash in the splash screen, but doesnt. How to trouble shoot? * I can log in as root with a gnome session * I can log into my account with gdm Cheers PS How do you configure fonts in kde??? -- ??? From gbpeck at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 20 11:35:01 2004 From: gbpeck at sbcglobal.net (Gary Peck) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 03:35:01 -0800 Subject: xorg-x11 post-install problems In-Reply-To: <200403200401.31891.jsolomon@comcast.net> References: <20040320021522.GA30566@realify.com> <200403200401.31891.jsolomon@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040320113501.GD30566@realify.com> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 04:01:21AM -0500, Jonathan Solomon wrote: > > - I use - to switch between applications. After logging into > > ? the new server, this no longer works. More specifically, letting go of > > ? doesn't remove the window list popup from the middle of the > > ? screen and doesn't actually switch to the selected application. I > > ? believe this is related to the next point: > > > > - The key on my keyboard used to be recognized as Mod4 (according > > ? to xev). It is now recognized as Super_L. It's also no longer > > ? considered a modifier key. > > > Check your XF86Config. I found the keyboard model on mine had been reset to > pc105 from microsoftpro even though it left the video settings alone. Nope. Even though most of the comments in my XF86Config got clobbered and moved around, the actual option values stayed the same. I should include that I'm using the following keyboard settings: XkbRules: xfree86 XkbModel: inspiron XkbLayout: us XkbOptions: compose:ralt,ctrl:nocaps gary From linux at therawsons.net Sat Mar 20 13:13:27 2004 From: linux at therawsons.net (Thom Rawson) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:13:27 +0900 Subject: Newbie: up2date question In-Reply-To: <20040318121650.33F6473D06@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040318121650.33F6473D06@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079788407.2139.9.camel@willie.therawsons.net> Hi, Sorry to bother, but I downloaded FC 2 Test to try and help out with the testing of stuff, and I was working on getting up2date with the latest software. It seems my up2date selects 3 different places at random to download from whenever I restart the up2date. One is the Fedora site (slow), one is a mirror (medium), and one is another mirror at duke u. which is decent but seems to be behind in the latest software. I was making good (but slow) progress, so being the fool that I am I decided to break something that wasn't broken to begin with. I tried to figure out how to point my up2date somewhere else, but in my haste and misunderstanding I tried doing it through the rhn.redhat.com site by registering my system. Now I can't up2date at all b/c the system tells me I am not registered on any channels. Hindsight is 20/20 here and I realize my mistake (fc 2 test isn't part of rhn.redhat), but how do I reset my up2date back to the "fedora-core-rawhide" channel? Sorry to be a nuisance. Someone with a bit of patience with a new guy, can you please help? Thanks in advance, Thom From alan at redhat.com Sat Mar 20 15:21:50 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:21:50 -0500 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CE@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <20040319170049.GA11830@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403192232.25245.manu@kromtek.com> <405B4A5A.9040003@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20040320152150.GA21009@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:43:44AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > >Packager : Red Hat, Inc. > >URL : http://xorg.freedesktop.org > >Summary : The basic fonts, programs and docs for an X workstation. > >Description : > >XFree86 is an open source implementation of the X Window System. It > >provides the basic low level functionality which full fledged > >graphical user interfaces (GUIs) such as GNOME and KDE are designed > >upon. > > Whoopsie... I thought I updated the package descriptions. I > guess I never commited that to CVS. Remember also to fix specspo.. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 15:51:23 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:51:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Newbie: up2date question In-Reply-To: <1079788407.2139.9.camel@willie.therawsons.net> References: <20040318121650.33F6473D06@hormel.redhat.com> <1079788407.2139.9.camel@willie.therawsons.net> Message-ID: <64686.65.41.50.216.1079797883.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Thom Rawson said: [snip] >...I tried doing it through the rhn.redhat.com site by > registering my system. Now I can't up2date at all b/c the system tells > me I am not registered on any channels. Hindsight is 20/20 here and I > realize my mistake (fc 2 test isn't part of rhn.redhat), but how do I > reset my up2date back to the "fedora-core-rawhide" channel? In the /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file, comment out the "default up2date" line. -- William Hooper From barryn at pobox.com Fri Mar 19 08:01:58 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:01:58 -0800 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> Message-ID: <20040319080158.GE3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 01:38:02AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > The proper way to do it, is to upgrade to /all/ of the current > rawhide bits. openoffice might not be there yet. Then do: > > rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-*.rpm Unless you do something like "rpm-Uvh xorg-x11-*.rpm chkfontpath*rpm" the new chkfontpath won't install unless you have XFree86-xfs-4.3.0-64 or later (if I remember all the details correctly; there's some problem like this anyway). So if you "upgrade to /all/ of the current rawhide bits" before doing xorg-x11, you'll also have to do at least part of XFree86*4.3.0-64 before xorg-x11, FWIW... -Barry K. Nathan From barryn at pobox.com Fri Mar 19 06:36:56 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:36:56 -0800 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <001701c40d74$cd1f1430$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> <001701c40d74$cd1f1430$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <20040319063656.GC3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:41:14PM -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > RaXeT, > > I think that you need to do rpm -ivh xorg-x11-* because you want to > install, not upgrade, the xorg packages. No, it's rpm -Uvh. You want to Upgrade from XFree86 to xorg-x11-* (which obsoletes XFree86-*). Right now after you upgrade to the xorg-x11 packages you have to edit /etc/ld.so.conf to re-add /usr/X11R6/lib, then you need to re-run ldconfig, then "chkconfig xfs on", and restart xfs. (At least, that's what I had to do to get things working.) -Barry K. Nathan From barryn at pobox.com Fri Mar 19 06:38:22 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:38:22 -0800 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <1079629869.4752.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> Message-ID: <20040319063822.GD3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:47:22PM -0700, RaXeT wrote: > rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* > error: Failed dependencies: > XFree86 is needed by (installed) xine-lib-1.0.0-0.5.rc3.fr > XFree86 is needed by (installed) aalib-1.4rc5-4.fr > XFree86 is needed by (installed) openoffice.org-1.1.0-30 > XFree86-truetype-fonts >= 4.2.0 is needed by (installed) > VFlib2-2.25.6-19 > XFree86-xfs is needed by (installed) chkfontpath-1.9.10-2 I don't know off the top of my head about the xine-lib or aalib dependencies, but you can upgrade VFlib2 to the latest beforehand, then include the new chkfontpath in the same rpm -Uvh command as xorg-x11. (That's what I did.) -Barry K. Nathan From grizzly at smit.id.au Sat Mar 20 15:56:40 2004 From: grizzly at smit.id.au (Grizzly(Francis Smit)) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 02:56:40 +1100 Subject: Newbie: up2date question In-Reply-To: <1079788407.2139.9.camel@willie.therawsons.net> References: <20040318121650.33F6473D06@hormel.redhat.com> <1079788407.2139.9.camel@willie.therawsons.net> Message-ID: <405C69B8.6040501@smit.id.au> Thom Rawson wrote: >Hi, > >Sorry to bother, but I downloaded FC 2 Test to try and help out with the >testing of stuff, and I was working on getting up2date with the latest >software. It seems my up2date selects 3 different places at random to >download from whenever I restart the up2date. One is the Fedora site >(slow), one is a mirror (medium), and one is another mirror at duke u. >which is decent but seems to be behind in the latest software. > >I was making good (but slow) progress, so being the fool that I am I >decided to break something that wasn't broken to begin with. I tried to >figure out how to point my up2date somewhere else, but in my haste and >misunderstanding I tried doing it through the rhn.redhat.com site by >registering my system. Now I can't up2date at all b/c the system tells >me I am not registered on any channels. Hindsight is 20/20 here and I >realize my mistake (fc 2 test isn't part of rhn.redhat), but how do I >reset my up2date back to the "fedora-core-rawhide" channel? > >Sorry to be a nuisance. Someone with a bit of patience with a new guy, >can you please help? > >Thanks in advance, >Thom > > No promises about this being the answer, but I'd try grabbing the rpms that installed up2date, and forcing it over the top, making sure that you're using the exact same one of course, uninstall reinstall should be best, or better yet, find and clean up the config file, yum uses /etc/yum.conf ah here we go, go to a command line and type> *man up2date* and you'll get the following ... ... Update Agent has a quite a few configuration options, including but not limited to: installing packages after they are downloaded; downloading source RPMs along with binary RPMs; whether or not to upgrade packages where the default configuration file(s) have been modified, and more. You can change these settings through a graphical interface by running *up2date-config*, or you can edit the configuration file */etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date *So I'd try typing *up2date-config* on a command line (in you're) favorite shell/terminal tool and then using the gui app, otherwise someone else here might know what to change in */etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date, *Good luck mate, hope you're out of trouble soon. -- In my life God comes first.... but Linux is pretty high after that :-D Grizzly(Francis Smit) From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 20 16:59:37 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:59:37 +0100 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <20040319063656.GC3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> <001701c40d74$cd1f1430$72b9fc80@rwa1> <20040319063656.GC3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> Message-ID: <405C7879.9040106@gmx.de> Barry K. Nathan wrote: >On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:41:14PM -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > >>I think that you need to do rpm -ivh xorg-x11-* because you want to >>install, not upgrade, the xorg packages. >> >> >No, it's rpm -Uvh. You want to Upgrade from XFree86 to xorg-x11-* (which >obsoletes XFree86-*). > afaik you can not use -i if an older package is installed in this case, xorg-x11 is not installed, -i should be ok you can use -U for updating installed packages or installing a new package -U xorg-x11 is in this case -i -F freshen is the choice if you will only freshen *installed* packages eg. rpm -Fvh /path/to/development/* -- shrek-m From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Mar 20 17:14:41 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:14:41 +0000 Subject: Fedora ftp site? Message-ID: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Any ideas why downloading from the Fedora FTP site should be so dog slow? It usually whizzes! TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From georg at georgs.org Sat Mar 20 17:26:45 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:26:45 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> Paul schrieb: >Hi, > >Any ideas why downloading from the Fedora FTP site should be so dog >slow? It usually whizzes! > > > because a lot of people means (s)he has to download from there. But thre are enough mirrors. see: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html greetings Georg E Schneider From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 20 17:46:28 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:46:28 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> Message-ID: <405C8374.905@gmx.de> Georg E Schneider wrote: > Paul schrieb: > >> Any ideas why downloading from the Fedora FTP site should be so dog >> slow? It usually whizzes! > > because a lot of people means (s)he has to download from there. But > thre are enough mirrors. > see: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html and the a few bandwith-killer at the same time fc-test: xorg-x11*, openoffice, ... rhl9: mozilla, ... https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh9-errata.html ==> xxx MB what luck, no kernel-update -- shrek-m From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Mar 20 17:53:19 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:53:19 +0000 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> Message-ID: <1079805198.5054.38.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > because a lot of people means (s)he has to download from there. But > thre are enough mirrors. > see: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html The mirrors seem to stop at Wednesday though there was material added to the main Fedora ftp site Thur + Fri. TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sat Mar 20 17:53:42 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:53:42 -0600 Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <20040319063656.GC3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> <001701c40d74$cd1f1430$72b9fc80@rwa1> <20040319063656.GC3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> Message-ID: <405C8526.3010607@cec.wustl.edu> Barry K. Nathan wrote: >On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:41:14PM -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > >>RaXeT, >> >> I think that you need to do rpm -ivh xorg-x11-* because you want to >>install, not upgrade, the xorg packages. >> >> > >No, it's rpm -Uvh. You want to Upgrade from XFree86 to xorg-x11-* (which >obsoletes XFree86-*). > >Right now after you upgrade to the xorg-x11 packages you have to edit >/etc/ld.so.conf to re-add /usr/X11R6/lib, then you need to re-run >ldconfig, then "chkconfig xfs on", and restart xfs. (At least, that's >what I had to do to get things working.) > >-Barry K. Nathan > > > > That's what I had to do, though I used sudo yum install xorg-x11* to upgrade. Everything looks great except for one thing (kinda unrelated), what exactly do I put where in XF86Config to turn on 3D acceleration? I have Load dri in the Module scetion, and a DRI section setting Group 0 and Mode 0666. I have and ATI AIW 9800 Pro, and I set ChipID 0x4e46 in the device section so it thinks I have a 9700 and I can use the provided radeon driver; anyone know if my card is actually supported in the new xorg-x11? TIA. Richard Ayer III From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 20 17:56:35 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:56:35 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <405C8374.905@gmx.de> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> <405C8374.905@gmx.de> Message-ID: <405C85D3.6070809@gmx.de> > and the a few bandwith-killer at the same time > [...] > what luck, no kernel-update or kde with all the dependencies ;-) -- shrek-m From reader at newsguy.com Sat Mar 20 18:00:31 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:00:31 -0600 Subject: [kernel 2.6.4] Where are they Message-ID: I see posts here involving kernel version numbers 2.6.4*. I see only 2.6.3* in rawhide. Where are the 2.6.4* coming from? Are there direct from kernel org? From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 20 18:02:53 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:02:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kernel 2.6.4] Where are they In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040320180253.46675.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Harry- --- Harry Putnam wrote: > I see posts here involving kernel version numbers 2.6.4*. > I see only 2.6.3* in rawhide. Where are the 2.6.4* coming from? > > Are there direct from kernel org? http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.Kernel/ mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From reader at newsguy.com Sat Mar 20 18:08:23 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:08:23 -0600 Subject: Kernel builds from linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 Message-ID: I've tried about half a dozen custom builds on kernel-sources for 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1, with various optinos enabled/disabled. Each time it breaks out at the end when building tmp_vimlinux1. Except one build with tux_module enabled, which breaks out with a tux_module error net/built-in.o(.text+0x620b6): In function `user_req_startup': : undefined reference to `tux_module' net/built-in.o(.text+0x6226f): In function `user_req_shutdown': : undefined reference to `tux_module' net/built-in.o(.text+0x62798): In function `user_req_start_thread': : undefined reference to `tux_module' net/built-in.o(.text+0x62a05): In function `user_req_stop_thread': : undefined reference to `tux_module' make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 I'm not a seasoned kernel builder but was able to build successfully from linux-2.6.3-1.118 sources. Are others seeing problems building a custom kernel from 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1? From reader at newsguy.com Sat Mar 20 18:11:06 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:11:06 -0600 Subject: [kernel 2.6.4] Where are they In-Reply-To: <20040320180253.46675.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> (Mark Fonnemann's message of "Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:02:53 -0800 (PST)") References: <20040320180253.46675.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mark Fonnemann writes: > Harry- > > --- Harry Putnam wrote: >> I see posts here involving kernel version numbers 2.6.4*. >> I see only 2.6.3* in rawhide. Where are the 2.6.4* coming from? >> >> Are there direct from kernel org? > > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.Kernel/ http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.Kernel/ Gives me a Page Not Found 404 *.png (http://people.redhat.com/icons/people.404.error.png) From reader at newsguy.com Sat Mar 20 18:12:35 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:12:35 -0600 Subject: [kernel 2.6.4] Where are they In-Reply-To: <20040320180253.46675.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> (Mark Fonnemann's message of "Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:02:53 -0800 (PST)") References: <20040320180253.46675.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mark Fonnemann writes: > Harry- > > --- Harry Putnam wrote: >> I see posts here involving kernel version numbers 2.6.4*. >> I see only 2.6.3* in rawhide. Where are the 2.6.4* coming from? >> >> Are there direct from kernel org? > > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.Kernel/ Opps sorry... the 404 was from upper case K in RPMS.Kernel above From steve at rueb.com Sat Mar 20 18:25:46 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:25:46 -0600 Subject: avi files being detected as RIFF audio in nautilus Message-ID: <405C8CAA.4060802@rueb.com> I am experiencing a problem with launching files with an .avi extension from nautilus. When the directory listing loads they show to be microsoft video. When I select them they change to "RIFF audio". If I try to launch, mautilus says that it won't do it because the extension does not match the detected file type. The file command says they are RIFF little-endian but I know that they are really valid avi files that play just fine. What's up with this? I am running the current rawhide. Thanks, Steve Bergman From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sat Mar 20 18:33:00 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:33:00 -0600 Subject: tvtime - no signal Message-ID: <405C8E5C.3000305@cec.wustl.edu> I tried to run tvtime again today, just for kicks, and it actually loaded! (this is a first for me) But it has no signal; and the terminal output "videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such device" So my question is, what do I need to do to set things up to use tvtime with my ATI AIW Radeon 9800 Pro? TIA, Richard Ayer III From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Mar 20 18:34:28 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:34:28 +0000 Subject: avi files being detected as RIFF audio in nautilus In-Reply-To: <405C8CAA.4060802@rueb.com> References: <405C8CAA.4060802@rueb.com> Message-ID: <1079807668.5054.40.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > What's up with this? > > I am running the current rawhide. Mime type is screwed by the looks of it. Same is happening here :-( TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From neuro at seclab.jp Sat Mar 20 18:46:19 2004 From: neuro at seclab.jp (Frederic de Villamil) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:46:19 +0100 Subject: tvtime - no signal In-Reply-To: <405C8E5C.3000305@cec.wustl.edu> References: <405C8E5C.3000305@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <20040320184619.GA40595@jesus.seclab.jp> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Richard Ayer III wrote: > I tried to run tvtime again today, just for kicks, and it actually > loaded! (this is a first for me) But it has no signal; and the terminal > output "videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such device" > So my question is, what do I need to do to set things up to use tvtime > with my ATI AIW Radeon 9800 Pro? > > TIA, > Richard Ayer III Hello, first, have you loaded your video4linux kernel modules? And your tuner card related modules? If a lsmod | grep tuner returns nothing, you have forgotten to load them. Regards Frederic -- < Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president et pere de famille respectable :s http://www.seclab.jp From steve at rueb.com Sat Mar 20 18:51:01 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:51:01 -0600 Subject: avi files being detected as RIFF audio in nautilus In-Reply-To: <1079807668.5054.40.camel@T7.linux> References: <405C8CAA.4060802@rueb.com> <1079807668.5054.40.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <405C9295.2090609@rueb.com> Paul wrote: > > Mime type is screwed by the looks of it. Same is happening here :-( > So how does nautilus identify it's mime type? It does not seem to use 'file' as I can modify /usr/share/file/magic and run file -C /usr/share/file/magic and nautilus still comes up with RIFF audio. Where is gnome/nautilus's magic kept? To be honest, I've never had a clear understanding of the whole file extension/file type/mime type scheme. I always get the impression that the whole concept is kind of broken. Thanks, Steve From w.steenburg at myactv.net Sat Mar 20 19:47:41 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:47:41 -0500 Subject: Improper dependencies? Message-ID: <1079812061.10660.4.camel@FC2> When removing xmms* packages I got some dependencies which to me don't seem right. I thought I'd check here before filing a bug. Here's what I get: [root at FC2 fedora-release-1.90]# yum remove xmms Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora.us Extras (Stable) Server: Fedora.us Extras (Testing) Server: Livna.org - Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) Server: Livna.org - Fedora Compatible Packages (testing) Server: macromedia.mplug.org - Flash Plugin Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Released Updates Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Dependencies resolved I will do the following: [erase: xmms 1:1.2.9-5.p.1.i386] I will erase these to satisfy the dependencies: [deps: xmms-mp3 1.2.9-0.lvn.1.1.90.i386] [deps: xmms-shn 2.2.8-0.lvn.1.1.90.i386] [deps: xmms-crossfade 0.3.4-0.fdr.1.1.90.i386] [deps: xmms-skins 1:1.2.9-5.p.1.i386] [deps: xmms-flac 1.1.0-0.fdr.13.1.90.i386] [deps: xmms-sid 0.7.4-0.fdr.3.1.90.i386] [deps: xmms-faad2 2.0-0.lvn.0.1.rc1.1.90.i386] [deps: kdeaddons 3.2.1-1.i386] [deps: kdenetwork 7:3.2.1-2.i386] [deps: xmms-xosd 2.2.5-0.fdr.1.1.90.i386] [deps: xmms-modplug 2.05-0.fdr.1.1.90.i386] [deps: xmms-devel 1:1.2.9-5.p.1.i386] [deps: xmms-normalize 0.7.6-0.lvn.7.1.90.i386] Is this ok [y/N]: n Exiting on user command. Do the kde packages really depend on xmms. That doesn't seem logical to me? Wayne From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 20 19:54:24 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:54:24 -0500 Subject: Improper dependencies? In-Reply-To: <1079812061.10660.4.camel@FC2> References: <1079812061.10660.4.camel@FC2> Message-ID: <1079812464.12516.25.camel@binkley> On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 14:47 -0500, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > When removing xmms* packages I got some dependencies which to me don't > seem right. I thought I'd check here before filing a bug. Here's what I > get: > > [root at FC2 fedora-release-1.90]# yum remove xmms > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Base > Server: Fedora.us Extras (Stable) > Server: Fedora.us Extras (Testing) > Server: Livna.org - Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) > Server: Livna.org - Fedora Compatible Packages (testing) > Server: macromedia.mplug.org - Flash Plugin > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Released Updates > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .Dependencies resolved > I will do the following: > [erase: xmms 1:1.2.9-5.p.1.i386] > I will erase these to satisfy the dependencies: > [deps: xmms-mp3 1.2.9-0.lvn.1.1.90.i386] > [deps: xmms-shn 2.2.8-0.lvn.1.1.90.i386] > [deps: xmms-crossfade 0.3.4-0.fdr.1.1.90.i386] > [deps: xmms-skins 1:1.2.9-5.p.1.i386] > [deps: xmms-flac 1.1.0-0.fdr.13.1.90.i386] > [deps: xmms-sid 0.7.4-0.fdr.3.1.90.i386] > [deps: xmms-faad2 2.0-0.lvn.0.1.rc1.1.90.i386] > [deps: kdeaddons 3.2.1-1.i386] > [deps: kdenetwork 7:3.2.1-2.i386] > [deps: xmms-xosd 2.2.5-0.fdr.1.1.90.i386] > [deps: xmms-modplug 2.05-0.fdr.1.1.90.i386] > [deps: xmms-devel 1:1.2.9-5.p.1.i386] > [deps: xmms-normalize 0.7.6-0.lvn.7.1.90.i386] > Is this ok [y/N]: n > Exiting on user command. > > Do the kde packages really depend on xmms. That doesn't seem logical to > me? kdeaddons and kdenetwork both require libxmms.so.1 -sv From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sat Mar 20 20:03:16 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:03:16 +0100 Subject: Mirrors with up2date In-Reply-To: <20040319172619.GE3467@lichen.truemesh.com> References: <405B28A0.3040702@terra.com.br> <20040319172619.GE3467@lichen.truemesh.com> Message-ID: <1079812995.5174.3.camel@littlePiet> Am Fr, den 19.03.2004 schrieb Paul Nasrat um 18:26: > create /etc/sysconfig/rhn/mirrors/ > eg /etc/sysconfig/rhn/mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > > Should be a list of urls - no comments allowed. Hm, didn't work for me - or I'm doing something wrong. Is there some doc about that feature available? Thanks Peter From jmatos at math.ist.utl.pt Sat Mar 20 20:47:35 2004 From: jmatos at math.ist.utl.pt (Joao Palhoto Matos) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:47:35 +0000 Subject: Mirrors with up2date In-Reply-To: <1079812995.5174.3.camel@littlePiet> References: <405B28A0.3040702@terra.com.br> <20040319172619.GE3467@lichen.truemesh.com> <1079812995.5174.3.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1079815655.21618.17.camel@a213-22-66-133.netcabo.pt> A S?b, 2004-03-20 ?s 20:03, Peter Boy escreveu: > Am Fr, den 19.03.2004 schrieb Paul Nasrat um 18:26: > > create /etc/sysconfig/rhn/mirrors/ > > eg /etc/sysconfig/rhn/mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > > > > Should be a list of urls - no comments allowed. > > Hm, didn't work for me - or I'm doing something wrong. Is there some doc > about that feature available? > > Thanks > Peter > > > Check /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources The mirror default location is (was?) specified by yum fedora-core-rawhide http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$ARCH/ yum-mirror fedora-core-rawhide http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide I guess you need changing these. I am not sure about the syntax. -- Jo?o Palhoto Matos http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~jmatos Departamento de Matem?tica Instituto Superior T?cnico Lisboa mailto:jmatos at math.ist.utl.pt From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sat Mar 20 21:05:55 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:05:55 -0600 Subject: tvtime - no signal In-Reply-To: <20040320184619.GA40595@jesus.seclab.jp> References: <405C8E5C.3000305@cec.wustl.edu> <20040320184619.GA40595@jesus.seclab.jp> Message-ID: <405CB233.8020603@cec.wustl.edu> Frederic de Villamil wrote: >On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > > >>I tried to run tvtime again today, just for kicks, and it actually >>loaded! (this is a first for me) But it has no signal; and the terminal >>output "videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such device" >>So my question is, what do I need to do to set things up to use tvtime >>with my ATI AIW Radeon 9800 Pro? >> >>TIA, >>Richard Ayer III >> >> > >Hello, >first, have you loaded your video4linux kernel modules? And your tuner >card related modules? >If a lsmod | grep tuner returns nothing, you have forgotten to load >them. > >Regards >Frederic >-- >< Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president et pere de famille respectable :s >http://www.seclab.jp > > > > Of course I haven't; thanks! And, do you know which tuner modules I need to get? I'm assuming I get them from the video4linux page at http://bytesex.org/v4l/ Richard Ayer III From cmadams at hiwaay.net Sat Mar 20 21:18:38 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:18:38 -0600 Subject: Development images/boot.iso out of phase In-Reply-To: <405BC840.4040805@insight.rr.com> References: <20040319195608.GA29438@wolves.durham.nc.us> <20040319200852.GB1499741@hiwaay.net> <405BC840.4040805@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040320211837.GA961396@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Jim Cornette said: > When the servers get into sync, if not already, pass on the info. > The tree is stable enough for installation. (at least on the 17th) I think mirror.hiwaay.net is now in sync. No guarantees about speed; it is running just about at its limit (at 30Mb/s). I would guess that if mine is in sync, the other mirrors should be catching (or already caught) up as well. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Sat Mar 20 21:23:15 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:23:15 -0500 Subject: avi files being detected as RIFF audio in nautilus In-Reply-To: <405C9295.2090609@rueb.com> References: <405C8CAA.4060802@rueb.com> <1079807668.5054.40.camel@T7.linux> <405C9295.2090609@rueb.com> Message-ID: <1079817795.8780.0.camel@family> On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 12:51 -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > Paul wrote: > > > > > Mime type is screwed by the looks of it. Same is happening here :-( > > > > > So how does nautilus identify it's mime type? It does not seem to use > 'file' as I can modify /usr/share/file/magic and run file -C > /usr/share/file/magic and nautilus still comes up with RIFF audio. > Where is gnome/nautilus's magic kept? > file:///usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gnome-vfs-2.0/mime-registry.html :) From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 21:22:33 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:22:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Mirrors with up2date In-Reply-To: <1079815655.21618.17.camel@a213-22-66-133.netcabo.pt> References: <405B28A0.3040702@terra.com.br> <20040319172619.GE3467@lichen.truemesh.com> <1079812995.5174.3.camel@littlePiet> <1079815655.21618.17.camel@a213-22-66-133.netcabo.pt> Message-ID: <64478.65.41.50.216.1079817753.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Joao Palhoto Matos said: > A S?b, 2004-03-20 ?s 20:03, Peter Boy escreveu: >> Am Fr, den 19.03.2004 schrieb Paul Nasrat um 18:26: >> > create /etc/sysconfig/rhn/mirrors/ >> > eg /etc/sysconfig/rhn/mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide >> > >> > Should be a list of urls - no comments allowed. >> >> Hm, didn't work for me - or I'm doing something wrong. Is there some doc >> about that feature available? /usr/share/doc/up2date-4.3.11/mirrors.txt Says it will work anyway. I'd file a bug. > > Check /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources > > The mirror default location is (was?) specified by > > yum fedora-core-rawhide > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$ARCH/ > yum-mirror fedora-core-rawhide > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > > I guess you need changing these. I am not sure about the syntax. Docs say that file:// should work. -- William Hooper From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Sat Mar 20 21:59:38 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:59:38 -0500 Subject: Development images/boot.iso out of phase In-Reply-To: <20040320211837.GA961396@hiwaay.net> References: <20040319195608.GA29438@wolves.durham.nc.us> <20040319200852.GB1499741@hiwaay.net> <405BC840.4040805@insight.rr.com> <20040320211837.GA961396@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1079819978.8780.5.camel@family> On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 15:18 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Jim Cornette said: > > When the servers get into sync, if not already, pass on the info. > > The tree is stable enough for installation. (at least on the 17th) > > I think mirror.hiwaay.net is now in sync. No guarantees about speed; it > is running just about at its limit (at 30Mb/s). > > I would guess that if mine is in sync, the other mirrors should be > catching (or already caught) up as well. Thanks so much for your bandwidth contributions. :) From nospam at tom.com Sat Mar 20 22:09:27 2004 From: nospam at tom.com (Redhat71) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 06:09:27 +0800 (CST) Subject: 1st problem after upgrading to xorg Message-ID: <33359.127.0.0.1.1079820567.squirrel@redhat71.3322.org> $ chinput Chinput Version 3.0.2 -- XIM Server Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL) Error : XCreateFontSet() ! From cmadams at hiwaay.net Sat Mar 20 22:25:50 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:25:50 -0600 Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion Message-ID: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> I did: # rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install # echo "/usr/X11R6/lib" > /etc/ld.so.conf # ldconfig # chkconfig --add xfs # service xfs start and it is working on my Radeon Mobility M6 LY. I still have my 6x13 font for xterm, but I set that in .Xresources directly anyway. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 20 22:37:34 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 23:37:34 +0100 Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <405CC7AE.5040605@gmx.de> Chris Adams wrote: ># echo "/usr/X11R6/lib" > /etc/ld.so.conf > do you mean >> ? -- shrek-m From cmadams at hiwaay.net Sat Mar 20 22:43:29 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:43:29 -0600 Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: <405CC7AE.5040605@gmx.de> References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <405CC7AE.5040605@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20040320224329.GC961396@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, shrek-m at gmx.de said: > Chris Adams wrote: > ># echo "/usr/X11R6/lib" > /etc/ld.so.conf > > do you mean >> ? D'oh, yep! Really, is there a reason in this day that ld.so doesn't automatically search /usr/X11R6/lib? /lib, /usr/lib, and /usr/local/lib are already automatically searched (without being in /etc/ld.so.conf); how about just patching ld.so to search /usr/X11R6/lib? -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sat Mar 20 22:53:30 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:53:30 -0500 Subject: please add maildrop In-Reply-To: <20040320084017.0e464fe0.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <200403180716.30528.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <20040320084017.0e464fe0.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <200403201753.30625.ndbecker2@verizon.net> On Saturday 20 March 2004 02:40 am, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:16:30 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > 2) I know basics of rpm spec files but need to learn a bit more about > > details, and I'm not sure where to get educated > > With existing, old and potentially out-of-date documentation at www.rpm.org > (an online version of Ed Bailey's [old] Maximum RPM book is available > there, too) and websites distributed over the Internet. > > Or with the much more recent "Red Hat RPM Guide": > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764549650/qid=1079768198 > > > 3) Step 1 said to submit introduction. I tried this about 3 times and it > > seems my mail disappeared into the ether. So I never progressed past > > this step. > > Still you are able to post here just fine currently. (!?) I'm posting to test, I can't seem to post to devel. From stephen at skmoore.com Sat Mar 20 23:02:03 2004 From: stephen at skmoore.com (Stephen Moore) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:02:03 +1000 Subject: My gnome session wont start, howto troubleshoot In-Reply-To: <405C1595.7090904@skmoore.com> References: <405C1595.7090904@skmoore.com> Message-ID: <405CCD6B.9070908@skmoore.com> seems to be sound related. My .xsession-errors contains audio_alsa: no cards found! audio_alsa: no cards found! audio_alsa: no cards found! audio_alsa: no cards found! audio_alsa: no cards found! audio_alsa: no cards found! Sound works as root, any ideas - weird how this used to work Stephen Moore wrote: > Last time i booted I had to log into root before i could log into my > account. > > This time i simply can't log into my gnome account (using kde now) > > The splash screen comes up but nothing else. I think the window > manager icon should flash in the splash screen, but doesnt. > > How to trouble shoot? > > * I can log in as root with a gnome session > * I can log into my account with gdm > > Cheers > > PS How do you configure fonts in kde??? > From farnik at internode.on.net Sat Mar 20 23:17:07 2004 From: farnik at internode.on.net (K,N,D Farnik) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:47:07 +1030 Subject: Any change to the 2004:03:29 FCT2 release date? In-Reply-To: <405CCD6B.9070908@skmoore.com> Message-ID: <000301c40ed1$76f11000$0101010a@whitestar> Is the 2004:03:29 date still correct? TIA, Kym Farnik From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sat Mar 20 23:49:23 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:49:23 -0600 Subject: Kernel builds from linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <405CD883.2020700@cec.wustl.edu> Harry Putnam wrote: >I've tried about half a dozen custom builds on kernel-sources for >2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1, with various optinos enabled/disabled. Each time it >breaks out at the end when building tmp_vimlinux1. Except one build >with tux_module enabled, which breaks out with a tux_module error > > net/built-in.o(.text+0x620b6): In function `user_req_startup': > : undefined reference to `tux_module' > net/built-in.o(.text+0x6226f): In function `user_req_shutdown': > : undefined reference to `tux_module' > net/built-in.o(.text+0x62798): In function `user_req_start_thread': > : undefined reference to `tux_module' > net/built-in.o(.text+0x62a05): In function `user_req_stop_thread': > : undefined reference to `tux_module' > make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 > make: *** [all] Error 2 > >I'm not a seasoned kernel builder but was able to build successfully >from linux-2.6.3-1.118 sources. > >Are others seeing problems building a custom kernel from >2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1? > > > > > Yeah, I had this today myself. I went under Device Drivers -> Networking Support and turned off the TUX group. That fixed the compile issue; I'm not sure how to fix it if you want to keep the enabled though. Let me ask you a question or two. I was also trying to do a custom 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 kernel, and I was able to get it all to compile with the changes I made (which were a lot). But when I try to boot it I get an error like this: VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) But the boot options are exactly the same as for every other kernel version; so I must have turned off something critical, I'm just not sure what. My root partition is on hda4, and it is ext3. Also, ever since I tried booting my custom kernel that first time, rhgb doesn't start for any kernel I boot, even though it is in all of the boot parameters. any thoughts? TIA, Richard Ayer III From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 00:03:27 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:03:27 -0600 Subject: Kernel builds from linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 References: Message-ID: <002001c40ed7$fd70eb90$72b9fc80@rwa1> Harry Putnam wrote: >I've tried about half a dozen custom builds on kernel-sources for >2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1, with various optinos enabled/disabled. Each time it >breaks out at the end when building tmp_vimlinux1. Except one build >with tux_module enabled, which breaks out with a tux_module error > > net/built-in.o(.text+0x620b6): In function `user_req_startup': > : undefined reference to `tux_module' > net/built-in.o(.text+0x6226f): In function `user_req_shutdown': > : undefined reference to `tux_module' > net/built-in.o(.text+0x62798): In function `user_req_start_thread': > : undefined reference to `tux_module' > net/built-in.o(.text+0x62a05): In function `user_req_stop_thread': > : undefined reference to `tux_module' > make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 > make: *** [all] Error 2 > >I'm not a seasoned kernel builder but was able to build successfully >from linux-2.6.3-1.118 sources. > >Are others seeing problems building a custom kernel from >2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1? > > > Yeah, I had this today myself. I went under Device Drivers -> Networking Support and turned off the TUX group. That fixed the compile issue; I'm not sure how to fix it if you want to keep the enabled though. Let me ask you a question or two. I was also trying to do a custom 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 kernel, and I was able to get it all to compile with the changes I made (which were a lot). But when I try to boot it I get an error like this: VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) But the boot options are exactly the same as for every other kernel version; so I must have turned off something critical, I'm just not sure what. My root partition is on hda4, and it is ext3. Also, ever since I tried booting my custom kernel that first time, rhgb doesn't start for any kernel I boot, even though it is in all of the boot parameters. any thoughts? TIA, Richard Ayer III From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 00:12:07 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:12:07 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> > I'm sure that if you came up with some good quality patches that Seth > would look at them, but from where I'm sitting it is a waste of precious > developer time. > If you don't you think volunteer time is more precious than "developer" time > think about doing without it. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. I'm a developer and I'm a volunteer. I don't get paid to work on yum and I don't work for red hat. So where does this fit in with my time, eh? let me ask something I've asked before. if someone asks to do: yum update foo bar baz all of the packages have updates, but bar and baz need other deps updated to update, should yum just update foo and continue merrily? It seems like a failure condition to me: 'update foo, bar and baz' foo bar and baz can't be updated, therefore I should error and tell them why. If the user would just like foo to be updated then they can ask for it. -sv From dennis at ausil.us Sun Mar 21 00:30:46 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:30:46 +1000 Subject: tvtime - no signal In-Reply-To: <405C8E5C.3000305@cec.wustl.edu> References: <405C8E5C.3000305@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <200403211030.52360.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Sunday 21 March 2004 4:33 am, Richard Ayer III wrote: > I tried to run tvtime again today, just for kicks, and it actually > loaded! (this is a first for me) But it has no signal; and the terminal > output "videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such device" > So my question is, what do I need to do to set things up to use tvtime > with my ATI AIW Radeon 9800 Pro? > > TIA, > Richard Ayer III Probably not going to help but i have found tvtime just plain doesnt work i get constantly no signal message and a blue screen. xawtv on the other had works fine to me it seems that somethings not right with tvtime. i havent looked into it totally yet i have a bttv based card and have the the bttv module loaded with correct options and the tuner module with the correct options. Dennis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <405CE7B6.1020705@cedarville.edu> I was doing some fooling around and stumbled upon this: [root at root]# yum upgrade Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers retrygrab() failed for: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/system-config-users-0-1.2.9-1.1.noarch.hdr Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/system-config-users-0-1.2.9-1.1.noarch.hdr [Errno 6] ERROR: Url Return no Content-Length - something is wrong Would this be the cause of the bug? From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 21 01:05:17 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:05:17 -0800 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <20040321010517.GA16264@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 05:14:41PM +0000, Paul wrote: > Any ideas why downloading from the Fedora FTP site should be so dog > slow? It usually whizzes! Has anyone filed an RFE to include bittorrent in the FC2 package. I gave a quick look but did not find one. It seems to me that bittorrent is a necessary subcomponent and prerequisite for enhancements like: Bugzilla Bug #: 116567 It would provide a foundation to extend /etc/init.d/yum and /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron to be a prefetcher for yum and up2date. Synchronization provided by cron would make the torrent more effective. Local time zones could tend to localize the torrent on the net. It would permit the http get code in yum and up2date to be extended much in the same way that up2date now understands yum. And in the future /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron might look like /usr/bin/yum -R 20 -e 0 -d 0 -y --bittorrent --download-only update Then when folks see the RHN tool turn red they will have packages already downloaded. The duke rpm packages seem like a great start.. http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/btrpms/ All three: yum, up2date, bittorrent are python so reuse of code should be possible. Many of the packages are big enough... 36076 - 36894064 Mar 10 14:39 kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.src.rpm 38988 - 39870785 Mar 20 10:10 openoffice.org-libs-1.1.0-32.i386.rpm 43372 - 44355715 Mar 18 14:27 kernel-source-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i386.rpm 47592 - 48675702 Mar 20 10:10 openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.0-32.i386.rpm It would also establish a distribution foundation for 'small' mirror sites that now depend on rsync. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From swamper at adelphia.net Sun Mar 21 01:45:48 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:45:48 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> seth vidal wrote: > > I'm sure that if you came up with some good quality patches that Seth > > would look at them, but from where I'm sitting it is a waste of precious > > developer time. > > If you don't you think volunteer time is more precious than "developer" time > > think about doing without it. > > I'm going to let you in on a little secret. > > I'm a developer and I'm a volunteer. I don't get paid to work on yum and > I don't work for red hat. So where does this fit in with my time, eh? > > let me ask something I've asked before. > > if someone asks to do: > > yum update foo bar baz > > all of the packages have updates, but bar and baz need other deps > updated to update, should yum just update foo and continue merrily? > > It seems like a failure condition to me: > 'update foo, bar and baz' > foo bar and baz can't be updated, therefore I should error and tell them > why. > > If the user would just like foo to be updated then they can ask for it. Well, I'm a user and a bitcher. I work hard at both and don't expect to get paid and I certainly don't expect to get any respect. I think I'm getting the hang of this bitching routine and feel I should get a little credit for all the time and effort I devote to this task. To answer your question; yes, yum should update foo and merrily output a note to the "user" that they don't know wtf they are doing and read the manual or something. It shouldn't abort just because some human typed something illogical at the command prompt because that's what humans do best. It is up to the program to do the logical thing because that's what they do best. Really, the logical thing for the update program to do would be to update anything it can, as long as the update doesn't break something. In the spirit of its namesake, when it's master tells it to fetch three sticks, it should at least return with one, say woof and drool all over his shoes. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 02:36:06 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:36:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Swamper said: > To answer your question; yes, yum should update foo and merrily > output a note to the "user" that they don't know wtf they are > doing and read the manual or something. It shouldn't abort > just because some human typed something illogical at the command > prompt because that's what humans do best. It is up to the > program to do the logical thing because that's what they do > best. Really, the logical thing for the update program to do > would be to update anything it can, as long as the update > doesn't break something. An so what status does this program return? Pass or fail? I don't want programs (especially something like package updating) doing mysterious things. If it can't do what I asked, I expect it to fail and leave my system alone. If I try to execute a file that doesn't have the execute bit set, I get an error. If I try to right to a directory I don't have permission to I get an error. If I try to install multiple RPMs and one fails none are installed. Yum should be no different. I don't expect any update software to fix a broken package tree. -- William Hooper From swamper at adelphia.net Sun Mar 21 03:16:09 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:16:09 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> William Hooper wrote: > Swamper said: > > To answer your question; yes, yum should update foo and merrily > > An so what status does this program return? Pass or fail? > > I don't want programs (especially something like package updating) doing > mysterious things. If it can't do what I asked, I expect it to fail and > leave my system alone. If I try to execute a file that doesn't have the > execute bit set, I get an error. If I try to right to a directory I don't > have permission to I get an error. If I try to install multiple RPMs and > one fails none are installed. Yum should be no different. I don't expect > any update software to fix a broken package tree. Then what is the point of this running daily? ### cat /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron #!/bin/sh if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then /usr/bin/yum -R 10 -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum /usr/bin/yum -R 120 -e 0 -d 0 -y update fi ### What would be wrong with updating packages that don't have dependency issues instead of aborting the whole process because of one package that has problems? Yum will be broke unless I edit that file and tell it to exclude gdm. Why should I need to run yum manually now and tell it to skip that file? Why can't it read my mind? Personally, IDGARA what status it returns. It should update the packages that it can and ignore the ones it can't. From spam at tachegroup.com Sun Mar 21 03:33:56 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:33:56 -0500 Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: <405BF943.9070709@georgs.org> Message-ID: so here it is, what do I need to do to correct the sigs? > rpm -K --nosignature kernel-* kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i586.rpm: sha1 md5 OK kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i686.rpm: sha1 md5 OK kernel-doc-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i586.rpm: sha1 md5 OK kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i686.rpm: sha1 md5 OK kernel-source-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.123.i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > rpm -K kernel-* kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i586.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK (MISSING KEYS: GPG#30c9ecf8) kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i686.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK (MISSING KEYS: GPG#30c9ecf8) kernel-doc-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i386.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK (MISSING KEYS: GPG#30c9ecf8) kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i586.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK (MISSING KEYS: GPG#30c9ecf8) kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i686.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK (MISSING KEYS: GPG#30c9ecf8) kernel-source-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i386.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK (MISSING KEYS: GPG#30c9ecf8) kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.123.i386.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK (MISSING KEYS: GPG#30c9ecf8) on 3/20/2004 2:56 AM, Georg E Schneider at georg at georgs.org wrote: > TGS schrieb: > >> I am seeing a lot of MD5 NO OK on the latest packages when doing a rpm -K. >> >> Is this right? >> >> > Sorry for the 2nd mail > MD5 is checksum not signature > if the signature is wrong you can ingnore it if you want and check the > package with > rpm -K --nosignature > > greetings > Georg E Schneider > From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 03:58:31 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:58:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: References: <405BF943.9070709@georgs.org> Message-ID: <64717.65.41.50.216.1079841511.squirrel@65.41.50.216> TGS said: > so here it is, what do I need to do to correct the sigs? >> rpm -K kernel-* > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i586.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK > (MISSING > KEYS: GPG#30c9ecf8) These are signed by the fedora-test key. http://fedora.redhat.com/about/security/ -- William Hooper From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 04:03:02 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 23:03:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Swamper said: > Then what is the point of this running daily? > > ### > cat /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron I wouldn't let a cron job update my system from a stable tree, let alone from development. How do you know what update broke your system? > Yum will be broke unless I edit that file and tell it to exclude > gdm. Yum is working as designed. And, if you had spent the time working on your system instead of bitching you would have gdm installed by now. > Why should I need to run yum manually now and tell it to > skip that file? Why can't it read my mind? Do you really want me to reply to this? A bigger question would be what happens when it doesn't read your mind and breaks your system? > Personally, IDGARA > what status it returns. That's the difference between you and me. -- William Hooper From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 04:41:50 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:41:50 -0600 Subject: Strange package dependency problem References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley><20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain><64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216><20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <004d01c40efe$ecb7d850$72b9fc80@rwa1> Maybe the answer to this problem would be a compromise. When yum needs to add some packages to meet dependencies it tells you which ones and asks if that is okay. If there were un-resolvable dependencies for some of the packages you ask yum for, couldn't it tell you so and ask you if you want to update the ones where the dependencies are met?? Just a thought, Richard Ayer III From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun Mar 21 05:12:03 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:12:03 -0700 Subject: agpgart and direct rendering and such in xorg-x11 Message-ID: <405D2423.6000007@xmission.com> When will direct rendering be supported in xorg-x11? Or is it solely the responsibility of ATI or nVidia to promote their own drivers? RaXeT From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 05:46:52 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:46:52 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <004d01c40efe$ecb7d850$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <004d01c40efe$ecb7d850$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079848011.15236.8.camel@binkley> On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 22:41 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > Maybe the answer to this problem would be a compromise. When yum needs to > add some packages to meet dependencies it tells you which ones and asks if > that is okay. If there were un-resolvable dependencies for some of the > packages you ask yum for, couldn't it tell you so and ask you if you want to > update the ones where the dependencies are met?? > so when run with -y which should it assume? that you're okay with the broken deps not being fulfilled and that those packages will not be updated OR that you want to err on the side of caution and not update anything. -sv From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sun Mar 21 06:13:24 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:13:24 -0800 Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: <20040320224329.GC961396@hiwaay.net> References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <405CC7AE.5040605@gmx.de> <20040320224329.GC961396@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 20 March 2004 14:43, Chris Adams wrote: > Really, is there a reason in this day that ld.so doesn't automatically > search /usr/X11R6/lib? /lib, /usr/lib, and /usr/local/lib are already > automatically searched (without being in /etc/ld.so.conf); how about > just patching ld.so to search /usr/X11R6/lib? What if you wanted to run X11R7? - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAXTKE4v2HLvE71NURAr3EAJ9OO1hb2yzqW4OkuNShTjrf8lzKZACeNP9I py5YB7QbVV/d3bNfI5fBGOk= =uigj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 06:21:21 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:21:21 -0600 Subject: Strange package dependency problem References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley><20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain><64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216><20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain><65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216><004d01c40efe$ecb7d850$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079848011.15236.8.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <000b01c40f0c$bbf6bbb0$72b9fc80@rwa1> I agree with you that in general erring on the side of caution is good. So maybe yum would say something like "Some of the requested packages have unresolved deps; should the update be halted?" Then with the -y flag, your system remains unchanged; then if you don't use that flag you can respond "no" to the above question and update whatever packages have resolved deps. As an aside, I've never used the -y flag; are there often a lot of questions to answer, hence the flag exists? I ask because I've never seen more than the one question about downloading/updating packages to resolve deps. Richard Ayer III From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sun Mar 21 08:07:58 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 03:07:58 -0500 Subject: lvm1 -> lvm2 (FC1 > FC1.90t1) boot failure Message-ID: <20040321080758.GA9112@wolves.durham.nc.us> I installed FC1 with some LVM volumes for usr,var,tmp & home (root,boot,swap were real partitions) spread over two PVs. FC1 ran fine with the LVs and did all the expected tasks ok. Using boot.iso and a local mirror of development tree, I installed FC1.90 (test1) [not an upgrade - an install] and anaconda/disk druid allowed me to carry on with the existing LVs (formatting everything except srv and home - home is an LV, srv is /dev/hdb3) and it carried on merrily, installing it's little heart out, etc... culminating in the reboot as required. Grub found the /boot and / and the kernel found /srv, but it failed to boot properly because it could not find/mount any of the LVs (VG not found).. . . Drag out the boot.iso CDRW, boot "linux rescue" and (lo and behold!) the rescue environment finds everything and mounts all the LVs, etc... I run "lvm vgconvert VGtembo" and change the lvm1 -> lvm2 for the VG. (There doesn't seem to be a lvconvert.) reboot.... This time the VG is recognized and the boot process starts to act as if it could proceed. But... no dice, the LVusr can't be found or activated. (nor could it find LVhome, LVtmp, LVvar). OK, I knew that root on a LV was a problem, but why does the installer/ rescue environment have no problems with the LVs, but the installed kernel/boot process can't recognize the LVs? If this is a forbidden transition, why does anaconda let me do it? Did I leave out a step or two in converting lvm1->lvm2? Anyway, this being a test box, I went back and undid the LVM stuff and reverted to real partitions to get the system back up. (It's still installing via http from the local mirror as I write.) Does this need bugzilla'd? [hardware blurb] tembo: K6-2 @ 333 MHz, 320MB RAM 16GB and 20GB IDE drives Verbatim High Speed CD-RW drive ATI Mach64 Rage XL tulip PCI NIC 3c509 ISA NIC CMI-8330 ISA on-mobo audio /dev/hda1 /boot 100MB /dev/hda2 swap 640MB /dev/hda3 / 2100MB /dev/hda5 /var 3200MB /dev/hda6 /home 9400+MB /dev/hdb1 /usr 6000+MB /dev/hdb2 /tmp 2000+MB /dev/hdb3 /srv 12000+MB -- Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury `-_-' Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us U RHCT August 2003 "The Line Eater is a boojum snark." Hug your wolf. From jbinpg at shaw.ca Sun Mar 21 08:45:44 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:45:44 -0800 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <20040321010517.GA16264@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <20040321010517.GA16264@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <20040321084544.GB7672@shaw.ca> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 05:05:17PM -0800, Tom Mitchell wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 05:14:41PM +0000, Paul wrote: > > Any ideas why downloading from the Fedora FTP site should be so dog > > slow? It usually whizzes! > > Has anyone filed an RFE to include bittorrent in the FC2 package. > I gave a quick look but did not find one. > > It seems to me that bittorrent is a necessary subcomponent > and prerequisite for enhancements like: Bugzilla Bug #: 116567 > > It would provide a foundation to extend /etc/init.d/yum and > /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron to be a prefetcher for yum and up2date. > Synchronization provided by cron would make the torrent more > effective. Local time zones could tend to localize the torrent > on the net. [snip] All fine and good, Tom. But how do you harness the P2P aspect of bittorrent? I do not want anyone else but me opening up ports on my box. So having it done automatically as part of a cron job is out of the question for me. Widespread acceptance of bittorrent as a tool will have to resolve this issue. I think it can be done using iptables and a bittorrent match filter but more testing would have to be done before I trusted it. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu Sun Mar 21 08:46:16 2004 From: wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (Wes Shull) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 01:46:16 -0700 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <20040321010528.1AC0173371@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040321010528.1AC0173371@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403210146.18212.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Tom Mitchell wrote: > Has anyone filed an RFE to include bittorrent in the FC2 package. > I gave a quick look but did not find one. Now might not be the best time to include it... For GUI operation, BitTorrent needs wxPython, which needs wxGtk, which won't build against the Gtk currently in Rawhide because it uses private symbols it shouldn't that Gtk stopped exporting. I've got a bug filed and accepted by the wxWidgets guys but have seen no action so far: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=915333&group_id=9863&atid=109863 Meanwhile I'm using Azureus, which works well (especially since 2.0.8.2), but other programs can't leverage it as a library (without a lot of work anyway), and I'm not sure how well it works with non-Sun java. Actually there's also a wxMotif that might work, but who wants that... From rpjday at mindspring.com Sun Mar 21 10:07:33 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 05:07:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <405CC7AE.5040605@gmx.de> <20040320224329.GC961396@hiwaay.net> <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Jesse Keating wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 20 March 2004 14:43, Chris Adams wrote: > > Really, is there a reason in this day that ld.so doesn't automatically > > search /usr/X11R6/lib? /lib, /usr/lib, and /usr/local/lib are already > > automatically searched (without being in /etc/ld.so.conf); how about > > just patching ld.so to search /usr/X11R6/lib? > > What if you wanted to run X11R7? would it be feasible to just add a symlink, and use a generic name like "/usr/X11/lib"? surely that wouldn't cause a great deal of confusion, would it? at the moment, there's no directory named /usr/X11. rday From iainr at zathras.org Sun Mar 21 10:28:11 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:28:11 +0000 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> William Hooper wrote: >Swamper said: > > >>Then what is the point of this running daily? >> >>### >>cat /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron >> >> > >I wouldn't let a cron job update my system from a stable tree, let alone >from development. How do you know what update broke your system? > If you're dealing with large numbers of systems then automagic updates (from a stable) are a necessity, however you have to back them up with reporting/monitoring systems. I wouldn't expect yum to do all that, it's too site specific. Having yum mail root a summary might be useful but it's fairly trivial to add that into the above cron job. > > > >>Yum will be broke unless I edit that file and tell it to exclude >>gdm. >> >> > >Yum is working as designed. And, if you had spent the time working on >your system instead of bitching you would have gdm installed by now. > > > >>Why should I need to run yum manually now and tell it to >>skip that file? Why can't it read my mind? >> >> > >Do you really want me to reply to this? > but it is reading his mind, it's then just going "this is broken, why should I work out what's wrong with this, he's the sysadmin, he gets paid to do things like that, he can sort it out". From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 21 11:34:49 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 03:34:49 -0800 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <20040321084544.GB7672@shaw.ca> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <20040321010517.GA16264@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <20040321084544.GB7672@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <20040321113449.GA20004@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:45:44AM -0800, Jack Bowling wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 05:05:17PM -0800, Tom Mitchell wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 05:14:41PM +0000, Paul wrote: > > > Any ideas why downloading from the Fedora FTP site should be so dog > > > slow? It usually whizzes! > > > > Has anyone filed an RFE to include bittorrent in the FC2 package. > > I gave a quick look but did not find one. > > > > It seems to me that bittorrent is a necessary subcomponent > > and prerequisite for enhancements like: Bugzilla Bug #: 116567 > > > > It would provide a foundation to extend /etc/init.d/yum and > > /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron to be a prefetcher for yum and up2date. > > Synchronization provided by cron would make the torrent more > > effective. Local time zones could tend to localize the torrent > > on the net. [snip] > > All fine and good, Tom. But how do you harness the P2P aspect of > bittorrent? I do not want anyone else but me opening up ports on my box. > So having it done automatically as part of a cron job is out of the question > for me. Good point... This is why I wanted only the basic torrent package at first. I also did not want to hide the potential impact and futures. My goal is to enable others to explore and test and speed up my rpm downloads. Things must work correctly for those that elect not to or cannot open ports. Like you I do not yet believe that there is sufficient community understanding to blindly bolt it to numerous tools. But I did a bit of exploration recently and it does make downloads fly. I spent hours with lsof, tethereal, netstat watching it... it is amazing and yes 'interesting'. First things first. I did post here for fear of getting what I asked for. An RFC can sits quietly then just show up almost right. FC3? -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From fedora at warmcat.com Sun Mar 21 11:42:43 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:42:43 +0000 Subject: 1st problem after upgrading to xorg In-Reply-To: <33359.127.0.0.1.1079820567.squirrel@redhat71.3322.org> References: <33359.127.0.0.1.1079820567.squirrel@redhat71.3322.org> Message-ID: <200403211142.47220.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 20 March 2004 22:09, Redhat71 wrote: > $ chinput > Chinput Version 3.0.2 -- XIM Server > Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL) > Error : XCreateFontSet() ! I found after changing to xorg packages that xfs was not running, this made it impossible for X to start (should we call it X still?) I ran xfs & in a root console and then it worked. Possibly this is related to your font problems? - -Andy - -- Find your answer without waiting for replies.... Searchable list archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAXX+3jKeDCxMJCTIRApk7AKCMOHNvD50KRmzDe38O8loRitDJ1gCffl0m p77M5AqSijxQpjCeMwXn+Lc= =/CXs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From roger at gwch.net Mon Mar 22 12:16:38 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Grosswiler Roger) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:16:38 +0100 Subject: HOWTO for a simple install of Cyrus Message-ID: <1079957795.2746.18.camel@niobe> Hi list, i read some statement of cyrus not working. As this is my favourite imap-server, i couldn't stand this, so i tried the installation. What i can say: it worked with a little knowledge within 10 minutes. The example here does authenticate by pam to users locally installed on the mailserver-machine (needs shadow-accounts) so, how to do: 1) install it via yum: 'yum install cyrus-imapd' this installs the daemon and resolves dep's necessary. 2) the default-authentication in cyrus is via sasldb. i never got this working properly. but cyrus works fine with pam. so, comment the line '#sasl_pwcheck_method: sasldb' 3) to authenticate now, just insert 2 lines in /etc/imapd.conf: sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd sasl_mech_list: PLAIN ..voil??, the configuration is done now. to run cyrus, now do: 4) 'service saslauthd start' this starts the saslauthd-interface for the authentication 5) 'service cyrus start' this starts the cyrus-imap-daemon how to test? a) go in the shell, do 'telnet localhost 143' you should get response from your cyrus-imap-server, something like this: Trying 192.168.0.101... Connected to link.gwch.net. Escape character is '^]'. * OK link Cyrus IMAP4 v2.1.16-2 server ready b) try to login, if you got response from your mailserver. do 'a01 login username "password" . you should get answer now a positive answer c) quit with 'a02 logout' you can now administer your mailboxes with cyradm. don't forget to create your users with useradd and doing the appropriate aliases to the mailboxes created with cyradm. HTH Roger From mike at netlyncs.com Sun Mar 21 12:50:07 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 06:50:07 -0600 Subject: Evo-1.4 additions from 1.5 Message-ID: <1079873407.8408.6.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Is there any chance of somehow including the way the headers are shown in the emails like in 1.5? As in if to include them in the body when viewing, or how, or whatever? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Mar 21 13:25:16 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:25:16 +0000 Subject: Evo-1.4 additions from 1.5 In-Reply-To: <1079873407.8408.6.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1079873407.8408.6.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1079875516.28852.2.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > Is there any chance of somehow including the way the headers are shown > in the emails like in 1.5? This email has been sent via Ev1.5.5. view->message display->display full headers will show the headers up. > As in if to include them in the body when viewing, or how, or whatever? Do you mean as in if person A sends you an email and you then send it on? If so, you have to display full headers, start a new email and then cut and paste. Failing that, save the email and include it as part of the body text. TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mike at netlyncs.com Sun Mar 21 13:42:07 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 07:42:07 -0600 Subject: Evo-1.4 additions from 1.5 In-Reply-To: <1079875516.28852.2.camel@T7.linux> References: <1079873407.8408.6.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <1079875516.28852.2.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1079876527.8806.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 07:25, Paul wrote: > Do you mean as in if person A sends you an email and you then send it > on? If so, you have to display full headers, start a new email and then > cut and paste. Failing that, save the email and include it as part of > the body text. Actually, in Evo-1.5, in the options, there is a setting on what you want included in your headers (like the from, date, to, etc..) and if you want it displayed and such. And once you click on an email to read (not open, just highlight it), the headers look a little more polished when you view the body and don't take up as much room, again depending on what you want viewed in your header. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 21 13:44:53 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 08:44:53 -0500 Subject: agpgart and direct rendering and such in xorg-x11 In-Reply-To: <405D2423.6000007@xmission.com> References: <405D2423.6000007@xmission.com> Message-ID: <20040321134453.GA26076@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 10:12:03PM -0700, RaXeT wrote: > When will direct rendering be supported in xorg-x11? Or is it solely the > responsibility of ATI or nVidia to promote their own drivers? Direct rendering is supported by xorg-x11. Third party binary only drivers are third party problems. From bartk at clara.co.uk Sun Mar 21 13:53:40 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:53:40 +0000 Subject: xorg and xine Message-ID: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> Is there a way of installin xine after upgrading to xorg-X11? -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Mar 21 14:16:35 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:16:35 +0000 Subject: xorg and xine In-Reply-To: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > Is there a way of installin xine after upgrading to xorg-X11? You need to reinstall aalib first and then Xine. Simple enough process :-) TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun Mar 21 14:33:02 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:33:02 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> Message-ID: <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Georg E Schneider wrote: > Paul schrieb: > >Any ideas why downloading from the Fedora FTP site should be so dog > >slow? It usually whizzes! > > because a lot of people means (s)he has to download from there. But > thre are enough mirrors. > see: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the mirrors automatically by chance or manual - the standards are to get the packages from the main Server, that cannot be the best way. Btw., SuSE have a tool taht searches for the best mirror from a list - It can not be so hard to do that, and if there a problems, you can take the main server as the last mirror and can delete or add other mirrors with package updates. What do you think? Why is there no such feature? Roland? From georg at georgs.org Sun Mar 21 14:40:33 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:40:33 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <405DA961.4050107@georgs.org> Roland Wolters schrieb: > I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the mirrors > >automatically by chance or manual - the standards are to get the packages >from the main Server, that cannot be the best way. > > Manual it is possible ! I think so too, but have you heard about bittronet too ? and I'm not a maintainer just a tester ;) greetings Georg E Schneider From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sun Mar 21 14:43:40 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:43:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Kernel builds from linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 In-Reply-To: <002001c40ed7$fd70eb90$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <002001c40ed7$fd70eb90$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: > Let me ask you a question or two. I was also trying to do a custom > 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 kernel, and I was able to get it all to compile with the > changes I made (which were a lot). But when I try to boot it I get an error > like this: > VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or unknown-block(0,0) > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) > But the boot options are exactly the same as for every other kernel version; > so I must have turned off something critical, I'm just not sure what. My > root partition is on hda4, and it is ext3. Also, ever since I tried booting > my custom kernel that first time, rhgb doesn't start for any kernel I boot, > even though it is in all of the boot parameters. any thoughts? That message is seen when a kernel is built with in initrd is made which does not include the jbd module. Did you include jbd support as modular or builtin? One way to handle this is make ext2, ext3, and jbd as builtin. I personally disagree with RedHat on this issue so I go the other route. I change all of my fstab entries to use device names (/dev/hda1) rather than symbolic names like LABEL=/. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 14:44:06 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:44:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <65019.65.41.50.216.1079880246.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Roland Wolters said: > Once upon a time Georg E Schneider wrote: >> Paul schrieb: >> >Any ideas why downloading from the Fedora FTP site should be so dog >> >slow? It usually whizzes! >> >> because a lot of people means (s)he has to download from there. But >> thre are enough mirrors. >> see: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html > > I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the mirrors > automatically by chance or manual - the standards are to get the packages > from the main Server, that cannot be the best way. Have you ran the up2date from FC2test1? -- William Hooper From bartk at clara.co.uk Sun Mar 21 14:54:06 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:54:06 +0000 Subject: xorg and xine In-Reply-To: <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> Paul wrote: >Hi, > > > >>Is there a way of installin xine after upgrading to xorg-X11? >> >> > >You need to reinstall aalib first and then Xine. Simple enough >process :-) > >TTFN > >Paul > > > [root at nemesis bart]# yum install xine Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Server: Evolution Devel Snaps Server: Fedora freshrpms Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) Server: Fedora Core 1 NewRPMS.sunsite.dk Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package xine-lib needs XFree86, this is not available. [root at nemesis bart]# aalib is installed and is the newest version. -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 15:03:24 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:03:24 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> Message-ID: <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> > If you're dealing with large numbers of systems then automagic updates > (from a stable) are a necessity, however you have to back them up with > reporting/monitoring systems. I wouldn't expect yum to do all that, it's > too site specific. Having yum mail root a summary might be useful but > it's fairly trivial to add that into the above cron job. Something to keep in mind - if you're dealing with large numbers of systems and you're updating them from rawhide then you're asking for pain in general, not just b/c of the updating. -sv From zachw at termdex.com Sun Mar 21 15:04:12 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:04:12 -0500 Subject: xorg and xine References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <006201c40f55$c5acced0$6601a8c0@termdex.local> Yeah, I had to rebuild from source rpm. Zach ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Kalita" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: Re: xorg and xine > Paul wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > > > > >>Is there a way of installin xine after upgrading to xorg-X11? > >> > >> > > > >You need to reinstall aalib first and then Xine. Simple enough > >process :-) > > > >TTFN > > > >Paul > > > > > > > [root at nemesis bart]# yum install xine > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Server: Evolution Devel Snaps > Server: Fedora freshrpms > Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) > Server: Fedora Core 1 NewRPMS.sunsite.dk > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package xine-lib needs XFree86, this is not available. > [root at nemesis bart]# > > aalib is installed and is the newest version. > > -- > ____________________________________________________ > > Bart Kalita MCP > > Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 > > www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 15:08:18 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:08:18 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1079881697.15236.18.camel@binkley> > I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the mirrors > automatically by chance or manual - the standards are to get the packages > from the main Server, that cannot be the best way. > Btw., SuSE have a tool taht searches for the best mirror from a list - It can > not be so hard to do that, and if there a problems, you can take the main > server as the last mirror and can delete or add other mirrors with package > updates. > > What do you think? Why is there no such feature? B/c the mirrors of rawhide are, typically, fairly significantly out of sync. if you're talking about a stable release then you can do: [somerepo] name=This is some repo baseurl=http://mirror1.org/some/path/ http://mirror2.org/some/path/ http://mirror3.org/some/path/ then yum will automatically switch mirrors when it encounters and error getting files from one. -sv From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 15:10:15 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:10:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: xorg and xine In-Reply-To: <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <65396.65.41.50.216.1079881815.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Bart Kalita said: > [root at nemesis bart]# yum install xine > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > Server: Evolution Devel Snaps > Server: Fedora freshrpms > Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) > Server: Fedora Core 1 NewRPMS.sunsite.dk > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package xine-lib needs XFree86, this is not available. > [root at nemesis bart]# So FreshRPM's xine-lib is broke? http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/freshrpms-list -- William Hooper From georg at georgs.org Sun Mar 21 15:12:34 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:12:34 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <1079881697.15236.18.camel@binkley> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079881697.15236.18.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <405DB0E2.1090104@georgs.org> seth vidal schrieb > >B/c the mirrors of rawhide are, typically, fairly significantly out of >sync. > >if you're talking about a stable release then you can do: > >[somerepo] >name=This is some repo >baseurl=http://mirror1.org/some/path/ > http://mirror2.org/some/path/ > http://mirror3.org/some/path/ > >then yum will automatically switch mirrors when it encounters and error >getting files from one. > > > But this is not the asked feature, he would like that it would automaticly switch to the fastest mirror. greetings Georg E Schneider From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 15:16:37 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:16:37 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <405DB0E2.1090104@georgs.org> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079881697.15236.18.camel@binkley> <405DB0E2.1090104@georgs.org> Message-ID: <1079882197.15236.20.camel@binkley> > > > > > > > But this is not the asked feature, he would like that it would > automaticly switch to the fastest mirror. > yes, and I would like it if world peace randomly broke out but seeing as both of those things are HIGHLY subjective to the user/onloooker I don't see it happening right away. -sv From mdg149 at rcn.com Sun Mar 21 15:25:21 2004 From: mdg149 at rcn.com (Matt Graham) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:25:21 -0500 Subject: floppy boot disk on RC2 Test1 Message-ID: <405DB3E1.8080700@rcn.com> I can't boot my machine from the Core 2 install CD. Here's the error I get: ISOLINUX 2.08 2003-12-12 isolinux: Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it ... isolinux: Failed to locate CD-ROM device; boot failed I'm pretty sure that this means I just can't boot from a CD so I'd like to boot from a floppy. In the images folder on the CD, there is only 1 file called boot.iso and it's too big to fit on a floppy. Is there anyway to make a floppy boot disk so I can install? thanks -matt From pbender at qualcomm.com Sun Mar 21 15:23:32 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 07:23:32 -0800 Subject: xorg and xine In-Reply-To: <65396.65.41.50.216.1079881815.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> <65396.65.41.50.216.1079881815.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <405DB374.2070604@qualcomm.com> William Hooper wrote: > Bart Kalita said: > >>[root at nemesis bart]# yum install xine >>Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) >>Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree >>Server: Evolution Devel Snaps >>Server: Fedora freshrpms >>Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) >>Server: Fedora Core 1 NewRPMS.sunsite.dk >>Finding updated packages >>Downloading needed headers >>Resolving dependencies >>.....Unable to satisfy dependencies >>Package xine-lib needs XFree86, this is not available. >>[root at nemesis bart]# > > > So FreshRPM's xine-lib is broke? > > http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/freshrpms-list I have had no problem installing xine from Livna . If you need xine, you might give that a try. From georg at georgs.org Sun Mar 21 15:30:14 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:30:14 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <1079882197.15236.20.camel@binkley> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <405C7ED5.7040608@georgs.org> <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079881697.15236.18.camel@binkley> <405DB0E2.1090104@georgs.org> <1079882197.15236.20.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <405DB506.5090700@georgs.org> seth vidal schrieb: >yes, and I would like it if world peace randomly broke out ... > > > I would like it too :-) From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 15:34:36 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:34:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: floppy boot disk on RC2 Test1 In-Reply-To: <405DB3E1.8080700@rcn.com> References: <405DB3E1.8080700@rcn.com> Message-ID: <64895.65.41.50.216.1079883276.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Matt Graham said: > I can't boot my machine from the Core 2 install CD. > Here's the error I get: > > ISOLINUX 2.08 2003-12-12 isolinux: Loading spec packet failed, trying to > wing it > ... > isolinux: Failed to locate CD-ROM device; boot failed Did you verify the MD5sum before you made the CD? > I'm pretty sure that this means I just can't boot from a CD so I'd like > to boot from a floppy. FC2Test1 doesn't have floppy images, the kernel is too big to fit. Please search the archives. -- William Hooper From bartk at clara.co.uk Sun Mar 21 15:48:00 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:48:00 +0000 Subject: xorg and xine In-Reply-To: <405DB374.2070604@qualcomm.com> References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> <65396.65.41.50.216.1079881815.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405DB374.2070604@qualcomm.com> Message-ID: <405DB930.5010300@clara.co.uk> Paul Bender wrote: > William Hooper wrote: > >> Bart Kalita said: >> >>> [root at nemesis bart]# yum install xine >>> Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) >>> Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree >>> Server: Evolution Devel Snaps >>> Server: Fedora freshrpms >>> Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) >>> Server: Fedora Core 1 NewRPMS.sunsite.dk >>> Finding updated packages >>> Downloading needed headers >>> Resolving dependencies >>> .....Unable to satisfy dependencies >>> Package xine-lib needs XFree86, this is not available. >>> [root at nemesis bart]# >> >> >> >> So FreshRPM's xine-lib is broke? >> >> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/freshrpms-list > > > I have had no problem installing xine from Livna > . If you need xine, you might give that a try. > > same problem, "xine-lib needs XFree86" is forcing it a sencible option?? or can anybody point me in the direction of some "for thick peeps" manual to rebuilding source rpms? -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From pbender at qualcomm.com Sun Mar 21 15:57:14 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 07:57:14 -0800 Subject: xorg and xine In-Reply-To: <405DB930.5010300@clara.co.uk> References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> <65396.65.41.50.216.1079881815.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405DB374.2070604@qualcomm.com> <405DB930.5010300@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <405DBB5A.7040902@qualcomm.com> Bart Kalita wrote: > Paul Bender wrote: > >> William Hooper wrote: >> >>> Bart Kalita said: >>> >>>> [root at nemesis bart]# yum install xine >>>> Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) >>>> Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree >>>> Server: Evolution Devel Snaps >>>> Server: Fedora freshrpms >>>> Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) >>>> Server: Fedora Core 1 NewRPMS.sunsite.dk >>>> Finding updated packages >>>> Downloading needed headers >>>> Resolving dependencies >>>> .....Unable to satisfy dependencies >>>> Package xine-lib needs XFree86, this is not available. >>>> [root at nemesis bart]# >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> So FreshRPM's xine-lib is broke? >>> >>> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/freshrpms-list >> >> >> >> I have had no problem installing xine from Livna >> . If you need xine, you might give that a try. >> >> > same problem, "xine-lib needs XFree86" Odd. I installed xine-lib-1.0.0-0.lvn.0.22.rc3a.1.90 from with no problems. From zachw at termdex.com Sun Mar 21 16:02:32 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:02:32 -0500 Subject: xorg and xine References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> <65396.65.41.50.216.1079881815.squirrel@65.41.50.216><405DB374.2070604@qualcomm.com> <405DB930.5010300@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <007e01c40f5d$eb8d07c0$6601a8c0@termdex.local> rpmbuild --rebuild some.src.rpm or rpmbuild -ta some-source.tar.gz (that's known to have an embedded spec file, like xine-lib or mplayer) Install required devel packages as necessary Zach ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Kalita" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: Re: xorg and xine > Paul Bender wrote: > > > William Hooper wrote: > > > >> Bart Kalita said: > >> > >>> [root at nemesis bart]# yum install xine > >>> Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > >>> Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree > >>> Server: Evolution Devel Snaps > >>> Server: Fedora freshrpms > >>> Server: Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) > >>> Server: Fedora Core 1 NewRPMS.sunsite.dk > >>> Finding updated packages > >>> Downloading needed headers > >>> Resolving dependencies > >>> .....Unable to satisfy dependencies > >>> Package xine-lib needs XFree86, this is not available. > >>> [root at nemesis bart]# > >> > >> > >> > >> So FreshRPM's xine-lib is broke? > >> > >> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/freshrpms-list > > > > > > I have had no problem installing xine from Livna > > . If you need xine, you might give that a try. > > > > > same problem, "xine-lib needs XFree86" > > is forcing it a sencible option?? > > or can anybody point me in the direction of some "for thick peeps" > manual to rebuilding source rpms? > > -- > ____________________________________________________ > > Bart Kalita MCP > > Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 > > www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 16:03:04 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:03:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: xorg and xine In-Reply-To: <405DB930.5010300@clara.co.uk> References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> <65396.65.41.50.216.1079881815.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405DB374.2070604@qualcomm.com> <405DB930.5010300@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <64916.65.41.50.216.1079884984.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Bart Kalita said: >>> So FreshRPM's xine-lib is broke? >>> >>> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/freshrpms-list >> >> >> I have had no problem installing xine from Livna >> . If you need xine, you might give that a try. >> >> > same problem, "xine-lib needs XFree86" > > is forcing it a sencible option?? It might work, but I don't consider forcing packages "sensible" :-) > or can anybody point me in the direction of some "for thick peeps" > manual to rebuilding source rpms? Well, just a straight rebuild won't help because the spec file hard-codes a dependency on XFree86. http://freshrpms.net/packages/builds/xine-lib/xine-lib.spec -- William Hooper From iainr at zathras.org Sun Mar 21 16:20:17 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:20:17 +0000 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> seth vidal wrote: >>If you're dealing with large numbers of systems then automagic updates >>(from a stable) are a necessity, however you have to back them up with >>reporting/monitoring systems. I wouldn't expect yum to do all that, it's >>too site specific. Having yum mail root a summary might be useful but >>it's fairly trivial to add that into the above cron job. >> >> > > >Something to keep in mind - if you're dealing with large numbers of >systems and you're updating them from rawhide then you're asking for >pain in general, not just b/c of the updating. > > At work we're updating from redhat (they're mostly redhat9 boxes), Fedora, freshrpms,, vendor/project supplied and homebrew rpms, you can learn to cope with certain levels of pain :) We use a staging repository so nothing goes on completely blindly, but the thought of updating hundreds of hosts by hand every night is about as painful as the thought of telling them all to ignore errors. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 16:22:11 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:22:11 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> Message-ID: <1079886130.15236.23.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 16:20 +0000, Iain Rae wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > > >>If you're dealing with large numbers of systems then automagic updates > >>(from a stable) are a necessity, however you have to back them up with > >>reporting/monitoring systems. I wouldn't expect yum to do all that, it's > >>too site specific. Having yum mail root a summary might be useful but > >>it's fairly trivial to add that into the above cron job. > >> > >> > > > > > >Something to keep in mind - if you're dealing with large numbers of > >systems and you're updating them from rawhide then you're asking for > >pain in general, not just b/c of the updating. > > > > > > At work we're updating from redhat (they're mostly redhat9 boxes), > Fedora, freshrpms,, vendor/project supplied and homebrew rpms, you > can learn to cope with certain levels of pain :) > We use a staging repository so nothing goes on completely blindly, but > the thought of updating hundreds of hosts by hand every night is about > as painful as the thought of telling them all to ignore errors. > you're updating to the development tree? -sv From joden at lee.k12.nc.us Sun Mar 21 16:29:55 2004 From: joden at lee.k12.nc.us (James Olin Oden) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:29:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: <405BF86B.3040509@georgs.org> References: <405BF86B.3040509@georgs.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Georg E Schneider wrote: > TGS schrieb: > > >I am seeing a lot of MD5 NO OK on the latest packages when doing a rpm -K. > > > >Is this right? > > > > > No it is never right if MD5 is not OK, > except for config files. This can be changed by scriptlets, and the admin, so it is to be expected that they may be wrong. Cheers..james > greetings > Georg E Schneider > > > From bartk at clara.co.uk Sun Mar 21 16:43:16 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:43:16 +0000 Subject: xorg and xine problem solved Message-ID: <405DC624.6040501@clara.co.uk> It went like this: Install of xine-lib-1.0.0-0.liv.0.22.rc3a.1.90.i386.rpm required libfame-0.9.so.0, funny I had libfame installed already, I had to uninstall the current version and install libfame-0.9.0-0.lvn.6.1.i386.rpm. After that xine via yum was just one d/l away. Thanx to all who helped . Over 380 updates , 3 days of playing with yum .conf, and I am back up to date with everything working. And all I did was to go to London for 5 days :-) Now I can sit back and finally watch Indiana Jones trilogy on DVD :-) again, big thank you to all -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From bruma at email.si Sun Mar 21 16:43:18 2004 From: bruma at email.si (b r u ma) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:43:18 +0100 Subject: Evolution 1.5.5 In-Reply-To: <1079721409.1993.0.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> References: <1079716714.2602.20.camel@T7.linux> <1079721409.1993.0.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> Message-ID: <405DC626.2030105@email.si> Markus Bertheau wrote: > ?? ??????, 19.03.2004, ?? 18:18, Paul ??????????: > > >>I don't want to go back to 1.4.6 of Evolution (I like 1.5.5!). Is there >>anyway I can get around the above dependancies or should I install then >>do a yum update evolution (which I'm sure would work as yum will say >>that newer versions are installed)? > > > [evolution-unstable] > name=Jeremy Katz' unstable Evolution Packages > baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/katzj/evolution/ > > Have fun Hi, I updated Evolution from above repository, but when I try to start it, I get following message: bruma at kiklop hd2$ evolution evolution: relocation error: /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.1.so.6: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_lock Any ideas? regards bruma From steve at rueb.com Sun Mar 21 16:44:30 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:44:30 -0600 Subject: Setting sound level on startup Message-ID: <405DC66E.5030001@rueb.com> I'm running current rawhide with snd-emu10k1. I see that in /etc/init.d/halt, the mixer settings are saved in /etc/.aumixrc. However sound level is still set to 0 after the system comes up and I log in. It looks to me like there are several simple things wrong here. I see a line in /etc/rc.d/rc.local: aumix-minimal To be honest, I can't remember whether I added that line or if it came with iniscripts. Anyway shouldn't that be "aumix -L /etc/aumixrc" And shouldn't the line in S01halt be: aumix-minimal -S /etc/aumixrc instead of aumix-minimal -S /etc/.aumixrc (/etc/aumixrc is the default config file for aumix.) For that matter, shouldn't "aumix-minimal -L" run in Xsession to set the user's saved volume level? (But only if $DISPLAY is local) -Steve From mickeyboa at comcast.net Sun Mar 21 16:48:27 2004 From: mickeyboa at comcast.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:48:27 -0500 Subject: Apt-get question?? Message-ID: <405DC75B.9050305@comcast.net> doing a apt-get --ingnore-missing upgrade after doing apt-get update. Why won't apt ignore the bad packages and upgrade others, about 60 other packages. Error message below in Attached. Another question?? When trying to mount floppy, konqueror wants to read as a CVS file, if I go to /konqueror/view/View Mode and change the way konqueror reads a floppy it won't change, it still reads as a CVS file. Thanks Jim Tate -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: apt.sxw Type: application/vnd.sun.xml.writer Size: 5441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mickeyboa at comcast.net Sun Mar 21 17:00:58 2004 From: mickeyboa at comcast.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:00:58 -0500 Subject: Emacs?? Message-ID: <405DCA4A.9020608@comcast.net> Why is Konqueror setup to only 'open with' text files in Emacs and Emacs won't you let paste a copy of text you copied from another text file , in a text file you open in Konqueror/Emacs. Boy this test version of Fedora is getting worst in the 2.6 kernel, (Boy am I going to catch Flak for making that statement) heh.heh . Thanks Jim Tate From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sun Mar 21 17:40:15 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:40:15 -0800 Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <200403210940.15740.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 21 March 2004 02:07, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > would it be feasible to just add a symlink, and use a generic name like > "/usr/X11/lib"? surely that wouldn't cause a great deal of confusion, > would it? at the moment, there's no directory named /usr/X11. Does ld.conf break if the directory isn't there? Think about systems that don't have X, no /usr/X11. In fact, the whole idea of splitting everything out into /usr/X11Whatever is unclean. IMHO it should all be in /usr/lib with the rest of the system libraries. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAXdN/4v2HLvE71NURAoyaAJ9cqdTqes6f6PGpyiP1U5lw4Zfm2gCdGKPv jpNwSknWYUKNDWK6nXgMGow= =zUoV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From iainr at zathras.org Sun Mar 21 17:42:00 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:42:00 +0000 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079886130.15236.23.camel@binkley> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> <1079886130.15236.23.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <405DD3E8.4000108@zathras.org> seth vidal wrote: >On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 16:20 +0000, Iain Rae wrote: > > > >>seth vidal wrote: >> >> >> >>>>If you're dealing with large numbers of systems then automagic updates >>>>(from a stable) are a necessity, however you have to back them up with >>>>reporting/monitoring systems. I wouldn't expect yum to do all that, it's >>>>too site specific. Having yum mail root a summary might be useful but >>>>it's fairly trivial to add that into the above cron job. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Something to keep in mind - if you're dealing with large numbers of >>>systems and you're updating them from rawhide then you're asking for >>>pain in general, not just b/c of the updating. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>At work we're updating from redhat (they're mostly redhat9 boxes), >>Fedora, freshrpms,, vendor/project supplied and homebrew rpms, you >>can learn to cope with certain levels of pain :) >>We use a staging repository so nothing goes on completely blindly, but >>the thought of updating hundreds of hosts by hand every night is about >>as painful as the thought of telling them all to ignore errors. >> >> >> > >you're updating to the development tree? > > sorry, not quite sure what you're asking: Are we updating whole machines to rawhide? no. Do we pull indivdual (s)rpms out of rawhide? a small number yes, but it's usually the last on the list before writing our own rpms from scratch. Do we feed packages/patches/reports back into rawhide? the policy is we should though It's left up to individual admins to do it for the packages they're responsible for. From rpjday at mindspring.com Sun Mar 21 17:44:03 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:44:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: <200403210940.15740.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403210940.15740.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Jesse Keating wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sunday 21 March 2004 02:07, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > would it be feasible to just add a symlink, and use a generic name like > > "/usr/X11/lib"? surely that wouldn't cause a great deal of confusion, > > would it? at the moment, there's no directory named /usr/X11. > > Does ld.conf break if the directory isn't there? Think about systems that > don't have X, no /usr/X11. In fact, the whole idea of splitting > everything out into /usr/X11Whatever is unclean. IMHO it should all be in > /usr/lib with the rest of the system libraries. i agree. i was just addressing the specific issue that putting /usr/X11R6/lib into ld.so.conf was too precise. i find it hard to believe that one or more missing directories listed in ld.so.conf would cause anything to break. that would represent kind of a fragile situation, wouldn't it? rday From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun Mar 21 18:26:43 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 19:26:43 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <65019.65.41.50.216.1079880246.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <65019.65.41.50.216.1079880246.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <200403211926.43679.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time William Hooper wrote: > Roland Wolters said: > > Once upon a time Georg E Schneider wrote: > >> Paul schrieb: > >> >Any ideas why downloading from the Fedora FTP site should be so dog > >> >slow? It usually whizzes! > >> > >> because a lot of people means (s)he has to download from there. But > >> thre are enough mirrors. > >> see: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html > > > > I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the mirrors > > automatically by chance or manual - the standards are to get the packages > > from the main Server, that cannot be the best way. > > Have you ran the up2date from FC2test1? Yes, sure. I started up2date, and it looked up servers, which were all somewhere in the USA and very slow - I switched it manually to some high-up-to-date servers in Germany, and everything works fine and fast. I can't see why they are using the main server for any up2date function: I would only use mirror server, and the mainserver just to give the packets to other mirrors. Roland From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 18:37:21 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:37:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <200403211926.43679.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403211533.02833.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <65019.65.41.50.216.1079880246.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403211926.43679.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <64541.65.41.50.216.1079894241.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Roland Wolters said: >> > I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the >> mirrors >> > automatically by chance or manual - the standards are to get the >> packages >> > from the main Server, that cannot be the best way. >> >> Have you ran the up2date from FC2test1? > > Yes, sure. I started up2date, and it looked up servers, Which is exactly what you are asking for. > which were all > somewhere in the USA and very slow - I switched it manually to some > high-up-to-date servers in Germany, and everything works fine and fast. You can specify your own mirror list. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg01346.html > I can't see why they are using the main server for any up2date function: I > would only use mirror server, and the mainserver just to give the packets > to > other mirrors. Having the mirror list on the server allows you to add and remove mirror servers as needed. It makes much more sense then trying to get everyone to update a local file (which is basically what the problem is now). -- William Hooper From lewt at warcry.com Sun Mar 21 19:15:46 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:15:46 -0600 Subject: yum.conf for FC1 x86_64 help Message-ID: <405DE9E2.30006@warcry.com> I managed to fubar my yum.conf for FC1 x86_64 and besides it was slower than a modem it seemed. Does anyone have a current one for the FC1 x86_64? Thanks Corey From swamper at adelphia.net Sun Mar 21 19:20:18 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:20:18 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> William Hooper wrote: > Swamper said: > > Then what is the point of this running daily? > > I wouldn't let a cron job update my system from a stable tree, let alone > from development. How do you know what update broke your system? Why then is yum installed to run daily in the default setup for FC2 test 1? Were we supposed to test that configuration or immediately disable it? Will yum be part of the next release of Fedora? Did Seth cause his program to be added to the daily cron run or was this a decision made by the project? > > Yum will be broke unless I edit that file and tell it to exclude > > gdm. > > Yum is working as designed. And, if you had spent the time working on > your system instead of bitching you would have gdm installed by now. Are you bitching about my bitching? I must be getting better. > > Why should I need to run yum manually now and tell it to > > skip that file? Why can't it read my mind? > > Do you really want me to reply to this? > > A bigger question would be what happens when it doesn't read your mind and > breaks your system? Did you really think I was serious about a program reading my mind? How would updating packages that don't have dependency issues break my system? I can understand yum not updating a package because it thinks there is a problem but, again, why abort the whole process because one package has a problem when there are several others waiting that will update just fine? > > Personally, IDGARA > > what status it returns. > > That's the difference between you and me. Yep. You want status reports. I want results. From mickeyboa at comcast.net Sun Mar 21 19:20:42 2004 From: mickeyboa at comcast.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:20:42 -0500 Subject: Where is XFS Message-ID: <405DEB0A.5040303@comcast.net> Trying upgrade kdebase but it can't find dependency 'xfs'. I did a rpm-q xfs and no xfs installed, where do I find it. Thanks jim From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun Mar 21 19:33:44 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:33:44 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <64541.65.41.50.216.1079894241.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403211926.43679.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64541.65.41.50.216.1079894241.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time William Hooper wrote: >>>> I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the >>>> mirrors automatically by chance or manual - the standards are to get the >>>> packages from the main Server, that cannot be the best way. >>> >>> Have you ran the up2date from FC2test1? > > > > Yes, sure. I started up2date, and it looked up servers, > > Which is exactly what you are asking for. > > > which were all > > somewhere in the USA and very slow - I switched it manually to some > > high-up-to-date servers in Germany, and everything works fine and fast. > > You can specify your own mirror list. > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg01346.html > :) I know that I can do - but I ask for an automatism - something which must not be done by the user himself. Do you understand what I mean? > > I can't see why they are using the main server for any up2date function: > > I would only use mirror server, and the mainserver just to give the > > packets to > > other mirrors. > > Having the mirror list on the server allows you to add and remove mirror > servers as needed. It makes much more sense then trying to get everyone > to update a local file (which is basically what the problem is now). Hm, not sure if you mean what I think - do you agree with me? Roland From georg at georgs.org Sun Mar 21 19:35:27 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:35:27 +0100 Subject: Where is XFS In-Reply-To: <405DEB0A.5040303@comcast.net> References: <405DEB0A.5040303@comcast.net> Message-ID: <405DEE7F.5030808@georgs.org> jim tate schrieb: > Trying upgrade kdebase but it can't find dependency 'xfs'. > I did a rpm-q xfs and no xfs installed, where do I find it. > > Thanks > jim > > rpm -qa | grep xfs xfsprogs-2.6.0-4.1 xorg-x11-xfs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xfsprogs-devel-2.6.0-4.1 greetings Georg E Schneider From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 19:41:09 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:41:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <65043.65.41.50.216.1079898069.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Swamper said: > William Hooper wrote: >> Swamper said: >> > Then what is the point of this running daily? >> >> I wouldn't let a cron job update my system from a stable tree, let alone >> from development. How do you know what update broke your system? > > Why then is yum installed to run daily in the default setup for > FC2 test 1? Were we supposed to test that configuration or > immediately disable it? It is not enabled by default. -- William Hooper From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 19:50:23 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:50:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403211926.43679.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64541.65.41.50.216.1079894241.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Roland Wolters said: > Once upon a time William Hooper wrote: >>>> Have you ran the up2date from FC2test1? >> > >> > Yes, sure. I started up2date, and it looked up servers, >> >> Which is exactly what you are asking for. >> >> > which were all >> > somewhere in the USA and very slow - I switched it manually to some >> > high-up-to-date servers in Germany, and everything works fine and >> fast. >> >> You can specify your own mirror list. >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg01346.html >> > :) I know that I can do - but I ask for an automatism - something which > must > not be done by the user himself. > Do you understand what I mean? I don't understand what up2date isn't doing that you want it to. It seems to me that it is doing exactly what you are asking. By default it gets a list of mirror servers and picks one. Alternatively, you can specify your own list of mirrors. Isn't this exactly what you described: >>>>> I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the >>>>> mirrors automatically by chance or manual -- William Hooper From mickeyboa at comcast.net Sun Mar 21 19:50:53 2004 From: mickeyboa at comcast.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:50:53 -0500 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? Message-ID: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> I'm having problem of updating the Kdebase , chkfontpath packages, they can't find 'xfs' , needed as a dependency. and I have XFree86-xfs installed. I have missgivings about upgrade to xorg-x11. In other words I'M SCARED. There you have the truth. Jim Tate From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 20:08:09 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:08:09 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <405DD3E8.4000108@zathras.org> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> <1079886130.15236.23.camel@binkley> <405DD3E8.4000108@zathras.org> Message-ID: <1079899689.578.3.camel@binkley> > sorry, not quite sure what you're asking: > > Are we updating whole machines to rawhide? no. > Do we pull indivdual (s)rpms out of rawhide? a small number yes, but > it's usually the last on the list before writing our own rpms from scratch. > Do we feed packages/patches/reports back into rawhide? the policy is we > should though It's left up to individual admins to do it for the > packages they're responsible for. so you're controlling your own tree and things are still broken? This sounds like $user-error to me. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 20:10:37 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:10:37 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079899837.578.7.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 14:20 -0500, Swamper wrote: > William Hooper wrote: > > Swamper said: > > > Then what is the point of this running daily? > > > > I wouldn't let a cron job update my system from a stable tree, let alone > > from development. How do you know what update broke your system? > > Why then is yum installed to run daily in the default setup for > FC2 test 1? Were we supposed to test that configuration or > immediately disable it? Will yum be part of the next release of > Fedora? Did Seth cause his program to be added to the daily > cron run or was this a decision made by the project? > It's added there but read the job - it only runs if the yum init script runs. Which it doesn't, by default. the cron job is just for convenience. > Did you really think I was serious about a program reading my > mind? How would updating packages that don't have dependency > issues break my system? I can understand yum not updating a > package because it thinks there is a problem but, again, why > abort the whole process because one package has a problem when > there are several others waiting that will update just fine? B/c an update is a single transaction. Either the transaction fails or it succeeds. > Yep. You want status reports. I want results. you seem to just want to complain w/o offering real help to solve this supposed problem. -sv From bartk at clara.co.uk Sun Mar 21 20:33:25 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:33:25 +0000 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> jim tate wrote: > I'm having problem of updating the Kdebase , chkfontpath packages, > they can't find 'xfs' , needed as a dependency. and I have XFree86-xfs > installed. > I have missgivings about upgrade to xorg-x11. > In other words I'M SCARED. There you have the truth. > > Jim Tate > > There is a short description of my xorg install process: [root at nemesis bart]# yum --exclude=xorg* --exclude=anaconda --exclude=gdm --exclude=kdebase --exclude=kdebase-devel --exclude=chkfontpath --exclude=XFree86* update then, yum install xorg-x11* followed by , yum update after that you should put /usr/X11R6/lib back in /etc/ld.so.conf run restart -xfs <- or sometning to that extend sorry but I'm not sure about this part. reboot and U should have xorg running. Worked for me . -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From fedora at networklifeline.net Sun Mar 21 20:37:53 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:37:53 -0700 Subject: up2date problems again Message-ID: <20040321203753.25855.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> Hi I am having trouble running up2date again. Now it is telling me I have failed deps for XFree86 XFree86-devel etc it says XFree86* needs Xfree-libs = 4.3.0-63 modify your selections. But I don't have any thing XFree86 selected. I did an rpm -q and i have XFree86-4.3.0-63 already installed. Any ideas ? I can't get the update to complete. yum fails with the same problem. BC From iainr at zathras.org Sun Mar 21 20:42:04 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:42:04 +0000 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079899689.578.3.camel@binkley> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> <1079886130.15236.23.camel@binkley> <405DD3E8.4000108@zathras.org> <1079899689.578.3.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <405DFE1C.30607@zathras.org> seth vidal wrote: >>sorry, not quite sure what you're asking: >> >>Are we updating whole machines to rawhide? no. >>Do we pull indivdual (s)rpms out of rawhide? a small number yes, but >>it's usually the last on the list before writing our own rpms from scratch. >>Do we feed packages/patches/reports back into rawhide? the policy is we >>should though It's left up to individual admins to do it for the >>packages they're responsible for. >> >> > >so you're controlling your own tree and things are still broken? This >sounds like $user-error to me. > Things will break for various reasons , including user-error. The user error ones tend to get noticed very quickly since they tend to effect large numbers of machines. Not all the hosts are running the same rpm sets so you get the occasional unforseen conflict, some people will leave huge amounts of crap in /tmp or /var/tmp so some updates will fail. some machines are switched off for a couple of weeks then switched on again, some combinations of postinstall scripts don't work well at install time but are fine if you update/install the rpms on an installed machine... From reader at newsguy.com Sun Mar 21 20:48:15 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:48:15 -0600 Subject: floppy boot disk on RC2 Test1 In-Reply-To: <64895.65.41.50.216.1079883276.squirrel@65.41.50.216> (William Hooper's message of "Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:34:36 -0500 (EST)") References: <405DB3E1.8080700@rcn.com> <64895.65.41.50.216.1079883276.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: "William Hooper" writes: > FC2Test1 doesn't have floppy images, the kernel is too big to fit. Please > search the archives. Here is something you can sink your teeth into a bit more. Its a thread from February on this list... should be easy to look up with these clues: From: Gerrit Subject: missing bootdisk.img Newsgroups: gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:03:57 +0100 Message-ID: <20040213200357.GA6754 at nl.linux.org> At least two messages in that thread give a technique using grub.conf or lilo that makes it unnecessary to have a floppy or boot cd. Once you've tried this... if its appropriate for you situation, you won't want to do it any other way. From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun Mar 21 20:53:01 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:53:01 -0700 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work Message-ID: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> I declare this 21st day of March in the year of our Lord 2004 that the ATI Linux drivers absolutely without excuse can't work with Fedora Core 2 Test 1 for any reason and for anyone to claim that either 4.3.0-3.2.8 or 3.7.6 can and will work with vanilla kernel 2.6.4 or any 2.6.x kernel, are pure hogwash! I have been a follower of ATI linux drivers since it's inception and can at the drop of a hat get the drivers to work with most 2.4 kernels, but I have never done any better than 2D in any 2.6.x under Fedora Core 2 Test 1. I followed all the instructions from http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.html to absolutely no avail. I tried the 3.7.6 and the 3.2.8 and they both fail and will only give 2D. I have seen posts by a few that say under Fedora Core 2 Test 1 they have it working and again I say HOGWASH. If you are one that have bantied that it works, post your install instructions for all to see. RaXeT From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 20:54:45 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:54:45 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <405DFE1C.30607@zathras.org> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> <1079886130.15236.23.camel@binkley> <405DD3E8.4000108@zathras.org> <1079899689.578.3.camel@binkley> <405DFE1C.30607@zathras.org> Message-ID: <1079902485.1017.9.camel@binkley> > >so you're controlling your own tree and things are still broken? This > >sounds like $user-error to me. > > > Things will break for various reasons , including user-error. The user > error ones tend to get noticed very quickly since they tend to effect > large numbers of machines. Not all the hosts are running the same rpm > sets so you get the occasional unforseen conflict, some people will > leave huge amounts of crap in /tmp or /var/tmp so some updates will > fail. some machines are switched off for a couple of weeks then switched > on again, some combinations of postinstall scripts don't work well at > install time but are fine if you update/install the rpms on an installed > machine... > but that's just it. Yum tries to resolve deps based on what it has available. so what you've told me is: 1. you control your repository tree 2. you control the update runs on your system 3. you know that there are unresolved deps in your tree 4. you're CHOOSING to run a global update, knowing that things are not right. So how is this not an unreasonable user-error? If you control the tree then control it better, don't let it have unresolved deps in it. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 20:57:00 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:57:00 -0500 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 13:53 -0700, RaXeT wrote: > I declare this 21st day of March in the year of our Lord 2004 in the year of your lord, maybe. > that the > ATI Linux drivers absolutely without excuse can't work with Fedora Core > 2 Test 1 for any reason and for anyone to claim that either 4.3.0-3.2.8 > or 3.7.6 can and will work with vanilla kernel 2.6.4 or any 2.6.x > kernel, are pure hogwash! this seems like the wrong list for this discussion perhaps there is a: make-my-drivers-run-on-an-alpha-release-os at ati.com list you can post to. -sv From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Sun Mar 21 20:59:10 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:59:10 -0500 Subject: up2date problems again References: <20040321203753.25855.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: in your selection if you have gdm selected uncheck it and proceed with your update ----- Original Message ----- From: "BC" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: 03/21/2004 3:37 PM Subject: up2date problems again > > Hi I am having trouble running up2date again. Now it is telling me I have > failed deps for XFree86 XFree86-devel etc it says XFree86* needs > Xfree-libs = 4.3.0-63 modify your selections. But I don't have any thing > XFree86 selected. I did an rpm -q and i have XFree86-4.3.0-63 already > installed. > Any ideas ? I can't get the update to complete. yum fails with the same > problem. > > > BC > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 21:06:26 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:06:26 -0600 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> >> I declare this 21st day of March in the year of our Lord 2004 > >in the year of your lord, maybe. Harsh dude; no need to be trashing God in the fedora-test-list! Richard Ayer III From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 21:07:32 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:07:32 -0500 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:06 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > >> I declare this 21st day of March in the year of our Lord 2004 > > > >in the year of your lord, maybe. > > Harsh dude; no need to be trashing God in the fedora-test-list! > no need to be bringing up any religion in these lists. -sv From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 21:11:22 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:11:22 -0600 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley><001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <005f01c40f89$112ffbb0$72b9fc80@rwa1> I don't want to start a feud either, but it's just a phrase that people use. Can we leave it at that? Richard Ayer III From stephen at skmoore.com Sun Mar 21 21:11:06 2004 From: stephen at skmoore.com (Stephen Moore) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 07:11:06 +1000 Subject: HOWTO for a simple install of Cyrus In-Reply-To: <1079957795.2746.18.camel@niobe> References: <1079957795.2746.18.camel@niobe> Message-ID: <405E04EA.7000204@skmoore.com> Grosswiler Roger wrote: >Hi list, > >i read some statement of cyrus not working. As this is my favourite >imap-server, i couldn't stand this, so i tried the installation. What i >can say: it worked with a little knowledge within 10 minutes. > > >HTH >Roger > > > > How do you convert old uwimap mailboxes to cyrus? I have wanted to move off uwimap for a while for performance reasons but always been too slack to figure this out. From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun Mar 21 21:12:52 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:12:52 -0700 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <405E0554.1070808@xmission.com> seth vidal wrote: >On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:06 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > > >>>>I declare this 21st day of March in the year of our Lord 2004 >>>> >>>> >>>in the year of your lord, maybe. >>> >>> >>Harsh dude; no need to be trashing God in the fedora-test-list! >> >> >> > >no need to be bringing up any religion in these lists. > >-sv > > Only reason I brought up the ATI here in Fedora Core Test is that Fedora Core 1 would work with the ATI on any 2.4 kernel. Since FC2, nada. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 21:18:00 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:18:00 -0500 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <005f01c40f89$112ffbb0$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> <005f01c40f89$112ffbb0$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079903880.1017.23.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:11 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > I don't want to start a feud either, but it's just a phrase that people use. > Can we leave it at that? no, not really. It's fine that it's a phrase that people use, I countered with a phrase that I use. He's still off-topic. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 21:17:15 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:17:15 -0500 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <405E0554.1070808@xmission.com> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> <405E0554.1070808@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1079903835.1017.21.camel@binkley> > Only reason I brought up the ATI here in Fedora Core Test is that Fedora > Core 1 would work with the ATI on any 2.4 kernel. Since FC2, nada. > you're talking about the closed-source drivers, right? The binary-only ones shipped by ATI? Or are you talking about the open source drivers in the xorg-x11 and XFree86 trees? If you're talking about the former then you're definitely on the wrong list. It's something to take up with ATI. If you're talking about the latter, then by all means, it should be discussed here. -sv From davej at redhat.com Sun Mar 21 21:20:33 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:20:33 +0000 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <405E0554.1070808@xmission.com> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> <405E0554.1070808@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1079904033.20240.5.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 21:12, RaXeT wrote: > Only reason I brought up the ATI here in Fedora Core Test is that Fedora > Core 1 would work with the ATI on any 2.4 kernel. Since FC2, nada. Bringing up the fact that part binary only drivers for 2.4 don't work on 2.6 kernels here isn't going to change anything. The fact that you can bend a 2.6 kernel to make them work is utterly irrelevant. Disabling 4g, irqstacks, regparm3 and god knows what else just to make them work isn't progress. If you don't want progress, stick with FC1. The fact that this doesn't work is ATI's problem. So, as I've told you (and others several times on this list), don't tell us, tell ATI instead. Dave From stephen at skmoore.com Sun Mar 21 21:27:53 2004 From: stephen at skmoore.com (Stephen Moore) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 07:27:53 +1000 Subject: Problem with netpbm missing libppm.so? Message-ID: <405E08D9.4060006@skmoore.com> netpbm no longer provides libppm.so I am not sure if this is intended or not. I have a program - subtitleripper - which depends on this library and the code in question will not build [stephen at paris stephen]$ cd subtitleripper [stephen at paris subtitleripper]$ make Linking subtitle2pgm /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lppm collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [subtitle2pgm] Error 1 I am not sure whether to bugzilla it as I don't know if it is a problem with netpbm or subtitleripper. Advice on which is the problem would be appreciated cheers From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun Mar 21 21:31:22 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:31:22 +0100 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time William Hooper wrote: > I don't understand what up2date isn't doing that you want it to. It seems > to me that it is doing exactly what you are asking. By default it gets a > list of mirror servers and picks one. Alternatively, you can specify your > > own list of mirrors. Isn't this exactly what you described: > >>>>> I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the > >>>>> mirrors automatically by chance or manual It seems to me that the list of mirrors is only a list of not working mirrors: it never switched to german mirrors I had to add them to the sources list for my own - and then everything worked great. Maybe the only problem was a bad list of mirrors or that up2date do not choose the mirrors depend on the place were the computer with the fedora is located to - or am I wrong? Roland From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 21:34:41 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:34:41 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley> > It seems to me that the list of mirrors is only a list of not working mirrors: > it never switched to german mirrors I had to add them to the sources list for > my own - and then everything worked great. > Maybe the only problem was a bad list of mirrors or that up2date do not choose > the mirrors depend on the place were the computer with the fedora is located > to - or am I wrong? I think the real problems are these: 1. the mirrorlist functionality is new and needs some greater refinement and explanation. 2. b/c of the massive changes in rawhide in the last week or so there are a lot of mirrors that are not yet in sync, therefore you end up with lots of broken repositories. 3. people are honestly expecting a bit too much from the mirroring infrastructure available at this time, it does not scale very well when you have MASSIVE changes on a nightly basis. It just doesn't. -sv From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Mar 21 21:40:05 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:40:05 +0000 Subject: GIMP dies Message-ID: <1079905205.31431.4.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Trying to start Gimp after the big update yesterday. It loads mostly up, but then dies after looking for the fonts. Any ideas on this? I've installed xorg-x11, restarted xfs (basically, followed everyones instructions), but no go on the gimp. TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at networklifeline.net Sun Mar 21 21:42:25 2004 From: fedora at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:42:25 -0700 Subject: up2date problems again Message-ID: <20040321214225.15722.qmail@webmail-2-2.mesa1.secureserver.net> Nope same error, ran it from the GUI and command line and told it to exclude gdm and still get the dep error. BC > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: up2date problems again > From: "alton bailey" > Date: Sun, March 21, 2004 1:59 pm > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > > in your selection if you have gdm selected uncheck it and proceed with > your > update > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BC" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > Sent: 03/21/2004 3:37 PM > Subject: up2date problems again > > > > > > Hi I am having trouble running up2date again. Now it is telling me I > have > > failed deps for XFree86 XFree86-devel etc it says XFree86* needs > > Xfree-libs = 4.3.0-63 modify your selections. But I don't have any > thing > > XFree86 selected. I did an rpm -q and i have XFree86-4.3.0-63 already > > > installed. > > Any ideas ? I can't get the update to complete. yum fails with the > same > > problem. > > > > > > BC > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 21:44:38 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:44:38 -0600 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley><001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> <405E0554.1070808@xmission.com> <1079903835.1017.21.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <00eb01c40f8d$b7c93a00$72b9fc80@rwa1> Speaking of the latter, anyone with an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (I have the AIW version) been able to get 3D acceleration working using xorg-x11? Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: "seth vidal" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:17 PM Subject: Re: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work > > > Only reason I brought up the ATI here in Fedora Core Test is that Fedora > > Core 1 would work with the ATI on any 2.4 kernel. Since FC2, nada. > > > > you're talking about the closed-source drivers, right? The binary-only > ones shipped by ATI? Or are you talking about the open source drivers in > the xorg-x11 and XFree86 trees? > > If you're talking about the former then you're definitely on the wrong > list. It's something to take up with ATI. If you're talking about the > latter, then by all means, it should be discussed here. > > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 21:44:28 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:44:28 -0600 Subject: Fedora ftp site? References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux><200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net><64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216><200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> Maybe a good idea would be for there to be 2 copies of the main repository, one for public access and one for mirrors only to sync off of (assuming that wouldn't bee ridiculously difficult to setup/maintain and/or prohibitively expensive)? Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: "seth vidal" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Fedora ftp site? > > > It seems to me that the list of mirrors is only a list of not working mirrors: > > it never switched to german mirrors I had to add them to the sources list for > > my own - and then everything worked great. > > Maybe the only problem was a bad list of mirrors or that up2date do not choose > > the mirrors depend on the place were the computer with the fedora is located > > to - or am I wrong? > > I think the real problems are these: > > 1. the mirrorlist functionality is new and needs some greater refinement > and explanation. > > 2. b/c of the massive changes in rawhide in the last week or so there > are a lot of mirrors that are not yet in sync, therefore you end up with > lots of broken repositories. > > 3. people are honestly expecting a bit too much from the mirroring > infrastructure available at this time, it does not scale very well when > you have MASSIVE changes on a nightly basis. It just doesn't. > > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 21:44:40 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:44:40 -0600 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley><001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley><005f01c40f89$112ffbb0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903880.1017.23.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <00ec01c40f8d$b7cc4740$72b9fc80@rwa1> Maybe he's off-topic, and yes this isn't the place to discuss/debate religion. But your phrase sounded to me very disrespectful of God and his/my religion, as opposed to just stating an opinion. I'm sure that I take just as much offense to your phrase as you take to his. So maybe we all know how the other side feels about the issue and we can all agree to disagree?? Richard Ayer III From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 21:48:37 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:48:37 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley> <00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:44 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > Maybe a good idea would be for there to be 2 copies of the main repository, > one for public access and one for mirrors only to sync off of (assuming that > wouldn't bee ridiculously difficult to setup/maintain and/or prohibitively > expensive)? IS just went through a fairly massive migration and updating the mirroring infrastructure has some technical and political pitfalls. It's also something that cannot go on from the outside of red hat. You need round-tuits and you need time available among the mirror-admins and among the internal red hat mirroring people. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 21:51:11 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:51:11 -0500 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <00ec01c40f8d$b7cc4740$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> <005f01c40f89$112ffbb0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903880.1017.23.camel@binkley> <00ec01c40f8d$b7cc4740$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079905871.1017.36.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:44 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > Maybe he's off-topic, and yes this isn't the place to discuss/debate > religion. But your phrase sounded to me very disrespectful of God and his/my > religion, as opposed to just stating an opinion. I'm sure that I take just > as much offense to your phrase as you take to his. So maybe we all know how > the other side feels about the issue and we can all agree to disagree?? > I didn't take offense at his phrase, I could honestly care less about his, your or anyone else's god. I just responded in a smart-ass-way to what I thought was ridiculous introduction to a ridiculously off-topic post. -sv From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 21:52:40 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:52:40 -0600 Subject: Fedora ftp site? References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux><200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net><64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216><200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net><1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley><00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1> I figured that might be something that would be really tough to pull off, but just thought I'd suggest it. Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: "seth vidal" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Fedora ftp site? > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:44 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > > Maybe a good idea would be for there to be 2 copies of the main repository, > > one for public access and one for mirrors only to sync off of (assuming that > > wouldn't bee ridiculously difficult to setup/maintain and/or prohibitively > > expensive)? > > IS just went through a fairly massive migration and updating the > mirroring infrastructure has some technical and political pitfalls. It's > also something that cannot go on from the outside of red hat. > > You need round-tuits and you need time available among the mirror-admins > and among the internal red hat mirroring people. > > -sv > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 21:52:18 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:52:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Roland Wolters said: > Once upon a time William Hooper wrote: >> I don't understand what up2date isn't doing that you want it to. It >> seems >> to me that it is doing exactly what you are asking. By default it gets >> a >> list of mirror servers and picks one. Alternatively, you can specify >> your >> >> own list of mirrors. Isn't this exactly what you described: >> >>>>> I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the >> >>>>> mirrors automatically by chance or manual > > It seems to me that the list of mirrors is only a list of not working > mirrors: This is not what you originally said. "Doesn't use mirrors" and "These specific mirrors have problems" are two different things. As Seth mentions, rawhide is very difficult to mirror. It is a lot of traffic every night, unlike mirroring fedora-updates. > it never switched to german mirrors I had to add them to the sources list > for > my own - and then everything worked great. > Maybe the only problem was a bad list of mirrors or that up2date do not > choose > the mirrors depend on the place were the computer with the fedora is > located > to - or am I wrong? I'm not sure how it will be handled, but it appears that plans for location based mirror lists are in the works. http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/ Getting the list of default mirrors is pretty easy: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide I agree that it is a short list but, because of the amount of traffic that rawhide generates, I think adding more mirrors would actually make it worse. -- William Hooper From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 21:53:50 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:53:50 -0600 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley><001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley><005f01c40f89$112ffbb0$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079903880.1017.23.camel@binkley><00ec01c40f8d$b7cc4740$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079905871.1017.36.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <011701c40f8e$ff65a280$72b9fc80@rwa1> Fair enough. Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: "seth vidal" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: Re: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:44 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > > Maybe he's off-topic, and yes this isn't the place to discuss/debate > > religion. But your phrase sounded to me very disrespectful of God and his/my > > religion, as opposed to just stating an opinion. I'm sure that I take just > > as much offense to your phrase as you take to his. So maybe we all know how > > the other side feels about the issue and we can all agree to disagree?? > > > > I didn't take offense at his phrase, I could honestly care less about > his, your or anyone else's god. I just responded in a smart-ass-way to > what I thought was ridiculous introduction to a ridiculously off-topic > post. > > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 21:54:46 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:54:46 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley> <00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley> <011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079906085.1017.39.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:52 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > I figured that might be something that would be really tough to pull off, > but just thought I'd suggest it. > Well, everyone seems to think bittorrent is a panacea for mirroring problems. Everyone is fairly wrong, but they seem to think it an utterly-trivial problem. -sv From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 21:56:54 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:56:54 -0600 Subject: Fedora ftp site? References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux><200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net><64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216><200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> Maybe the mirrors and the main rawhide could all have an hour of scheduled downtime every day or two in order be sure things are sync'ed up? Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Hooper" To: Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Fedora ftp site? > > Roland Wolters said: > > Once upon a time William Hooper wrote: > >> I don't understand what up2date isn't doing that you want it to. It > >> seems > >> to me that it is doing exactly what you are asking. By default it gets > >> a > >> list of mirror servers and picks one. Alternatively, you can specify > >> your > >> > >> own list of mirrors. Isn't this exactly what you described: > >> >>>>> I can't understand why Fedora don't add a feature to change the > >> >>>>> mirrors automatically by chance or manual > > > > It seems to me that the list of mirrors is only a list of not working > > mirrors: > > This is not what you originally said. "Doesn't use mirrors" and "These > specific mirrors have problems" are two different things. > > As Seth mentions, rawhide is very difficult to mirror. It is a lot of > traffic every night, unlike mirroring fedora-updates. > > > it never switched to german mirrors I had to add them to the sources list > > for > > my own - and then everything worked great. > > Maybe the only problem was a bad list of mirrors or that up2date do not > > choose > > the mirrors depend on the place were the computer with the fedora is > > located > > to - or am I wrong? > > > I'm not sure how it will be handled, but it appears that plans for > location based mirror lists are in the works. > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/ > > Getting the list of default mirrors is pretty easy: > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > > I agree that it is a short list but, because of the amount of traffic that > rawhide generates, I think adding more mirrors would actually make it > worse. > > -- > William Hooper > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 21:58:46 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:58:46 -0600 Subject: Fedora ftp site? References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux><200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net><64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216><200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net><1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley><00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley><011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079906085.1017.39.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <012701c40f8f$afe559c0$72b9fc80@rwa1> Definitely not trivial. I guess the main problem I see with bittorrent here, is that a package might get re-updated before you finished the original update (if the traffic volume got really high). Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: "seth vidal" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Fedora ftp site? > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:52 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > > I figured that might be something that would be really tough to pull off, > > but just thought I'd suggest it. > > > > Well, everyone seems to think bittorrent is a panacea for mirroring > problems. Everyone is fairly wrong, but they seem to think it an > utterly-trivial problem. > > -sv > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 22:00:51 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:00:51 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079906450.1017.46.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:56 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > Maybe the mirrors and the main rawhide could all have an hour of scheduled > downtime every day or two in order be sure things are sync'ed up? The mirrors don't just mirror red hat. Duke's mirror, for example, mirrors lots of other things, Having downtime for mirror syncing is not very acceptable to your other users. moreover an hour is not enough time to sync up everywhere around the world. Let's say on a good day I'm getting 1MB/s from the mirror master. And let's also say that rawhide was rebuilt the night before. So we end up with 4GB of changes including debuginfo packages. in an hour I'll only get 3.6GB from the mirror master. And then when the gates are opened again my rates will diminish rapidly. Now in general getting 1MB/s from the mirror master is a pipe dream. :) -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 22:03:39 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:03:39 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <012701c40f8f$afe559c0$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley> <00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley> <011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079906085.1017.39.camel@binkley> <012701c40f8f$afe559c0$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079906619.1017.48.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:58 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > Definitely not trivial. I guess the main problem I see with bittorrent here, > is that a package might get re-updated before you finished the original > update (if the traffic volume got really high). bittorrent also needs a good way to restrict the session to just mirror servers so you can pre-sync the mirrors for releases. it also needs ways to restrict who you send to so that the mirrors in australia, for example, don't send a lot of data to people in europe, which is very expensive for them. -sv From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 22:06:15 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:06:15 -0600 Subject: Fedora ftp site? References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux><200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net><64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216><200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net><65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216><012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079906450.1017.46.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <018e01c40f90$bba02b40$72b9fc80@rwa1> I guess I was thinking just refusing connections to just that particular area of the mirror (if that's even possible). But I definitely see your point about total size of all updates and the bandwidth. Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: "seth vidal" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Fedora ftp site? > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:56 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > > Maybe the mirrors and the main rawhide could all have an hour of scheduled > > downtime every day or two in order be sure things are sync'ed up? > > The mirrors don't just mirror red hat. > > Duke's mirror, for example, mirrors lots of other things, Having > downtime for mirror syncing is not very acceptable to your other users. > moreover an hour is not enough time to sync up everywhere around the > world. > > Let's say on a good day I'm getting 1MB/s from the mirror master. And > let's also say that rawhide was rebuilt the night before. So we end up > with 4GB of changes including debuginfo packages. > > in an hour I'll only get 3.6GB from the mirror master. And then when the > gates are opened again my rates will diminish rapidly. > > Now in general getting 1MB/s from the mirror master is a pipe dream. :) > > -sv > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 22:08:24 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:08:24 -0600 Subject: Fedora ftp site? References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux><200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net><64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216><200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net><1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley><00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley><011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079906085.1017.39.camel@binkley><012701c40f8f$afe559c0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079906619.1017.48.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <019401c40f91$08b8cd60$72b9fc80@rwa1> I think I see what you're saying. Plus, I didn't even think of cross-continent excess info issues. Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: "seth vidal" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Fedora ftp site? > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 15:58 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > > Definitely not trivial. I guess the main problem I see with bittorrent here, > > is that a package might get re-updated before you finished the original > > update (if the traffic volume got really high). > > bittorrent also needs a good way to restrict the session to just mirror > servers so you can pre-sync the mirrors for releases. it also needs ways > to restrict who you send to so that the mirrors in australia, for > example, don't send a lot of data to people in europe, which is very > expensive for them. > > > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From steve at rueb.com Sun Mar 21 22:11:26 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:11:26 -0600 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <1079904033.20240.5.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> <405E0554.1070808@xmission.com> <1079904033.20240.5.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <405E130E.9090404@rueb.com> Dave Jones wrote: > Bringing up the fact that part binary only drivers for 2.4 don't > work on 2.6 kernels here isn't going to change anything. > This is not a problem that is going to go away. Perhaps as Linux becomes more popular, the chip manufacturers will implement a thin, proprietary, GLIDE-like layer in between the hardware and the high level video driver. Would this be a workable comromise between the manufacturer's desire to keep their hardware internals secret (which in the area of 3D chip design is actually pretty understandable) and our need to have the code available? Of course, in the case of a new kernel, the ball would still be in ATI/NVidia's court, but at least it would only be the lowest level internals being kept secret, instead of the whole thing being a black box. Wouldn't this actually make maitenance easier for the manufacturer as well as for distro developers andmaintainers? It is my understanding that GLIDE was so thin and efficient that it made essentially no measurable difference to performance. -Steve From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 22:14:59 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:14:59 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <019401c40f91$08b8cd60$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley> <00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley> <011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079906085.1017.39.camel@binkley> <012701c40f8f$afe559c0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079906619.1017.48.camel@binkley> <019401c40f91$08b8cd60$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079907298.1017.55.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 16:08 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > I think I see what you're saying. > Plus, I didn't even think of cross-continent excess info issues. > Probably what would be worthwhile is some work to be done on the current bittorrent tracker and launcher code to allow restricted ip lists. so the tracker could say: allow connections from these systems and the clients could send a list of systems they can talk to, from that list, to the tracker. so when someone in europe wants to get some data, the tracker knows not to hand the european mirror the url to the australian peer. The tracker is actually shockingly simple code and handling restricted ip lists should not be very hard. Handling which peers get sent to each other might be a bit trickier. -sv From ckloiber at redhat.com Sun Mar 21 22:32:16 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 06:32:16 +0800 Subject: The new X.org X11 implementation, has now been put in rawhide (was Re: Xorg server) In-Reply-To: References: <1079530854.3233.4.camel@family> Message-ID: <1079908335.428.41.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 04:24, Pau Aliagas wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Sandy Pond wrote: > > > > >So, I noticed the Xorg server on rawhide ... so what's the story. > > > The other option, is for someone else to go and package XFree86 > > 4.4.0 themselves which the previous posting to this list > > indicates someone has already done. Note however that we do not > > support 4.4.0, and will not support systems that are using it. > > I was the one that packed XFree86-4.4.0 becasuse I need support for the > Mobility Radeon 9600 M10. If that support is going to be included in the > new implementation, I'll gladly test it until it works. > > Should xorg work in this card in the x86_64 platform? In case you haven't seen my previous reply, yes it does and very well on the eMachines M6807, in 1280x800x24bpp, no ModeLine required. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 22:34:53 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:34:53 -0600 Subject: Fedora ftp site? References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux><200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net><64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216><200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net><1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley><00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley><011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079906085.1017.39.camel@binkley><012701c40f8f$afe559c0$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079906619.1017.48.camel@binkley><019401c40f91$08b8cd60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079907298.1017.55.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <01b901c40f94$bbc6c940$72b9fc80@rwa1> Maybe each system could keep a list of servers they are willing to talk to, and then when tracker sends the master list to the client, the client could send a list back to the tracker which has the matches between the master and local lists? Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: "seth vidal" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Fedora ftp site? > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 16:08 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > > I think I see what you're saying. > > Plus, I didn't even think of cross-continent excess info issues. > > > > Probably what would be worthwhile is some work to be done on the current > bittorrent tracker and launcher code to allow restricted ip lists. > > so the tracker could say: allow connections from these systems > and the clients could send a list of systems they can talk to, from that > list, to the tracker. > > so when someone in europe wants to get some data, the tracker knows not > to hand the european mirror the url to the australian peer. > > The tracker is actually shockingly simple code and handling restricted > ip lists should not be very hard. Handling which peers get sent to each > other might be a bit trickier. > > -sv > > > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 21 22:37:58 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:37:58 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <01b901c40f94$bbc6c940$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley> <00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley> <011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079906085.1017.39.camel@binkley> <012701c40f8f$afe559c0$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079906619.1017.48.camel@binkley> <019401c40f91$08b8cd60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079907298.1017.55.camel@binkley> <01b901c40f94$bbc6c940$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079908678.1017.59.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 16:34 -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > Maybe each system could keep a list of servers they are willing to talk to, > and then when tracker sends the master list to the client, the client could > send a list back to the tracker which has the matches between the master and > local lists? > no matter what the specification, someone needs to code it. -sv From spam at tachegroup.com Sun Mar 21 22:44:33 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:44:33 -0500 Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: <64717.65.41.50.216.1079841511.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: so the keys are okay on my system. So why are the rpm incorrect? on 3/20/2004 10:58 PM, William Hooper at whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net wrote: > > TGS said: >> so here it is, what do I need to do to correct the sigs? >>> rpm -K kernel-* >> kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i586.rpm: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK >> (MISSING >> KEYS: GPG#30c9ecf8) > > These are signed by the fedora-test key. > http://fedora.redhat.com/about/security/ From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 23:00:29 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:00:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: References: <64717.65.41.50.216.1079841511.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <65201.65.41.50.216.1079910029.squirrel@65.41.50.216> TGS said: > so the keys are okay on my system. So why are the rpm incorrect? Looks to me that you don't have the fedora-test key installed. -- William Hooper From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sun Mar 21 23:06:21 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:06:21 -0600 Subject: Fedora ftp site? References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux><200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net><64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216><200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net><1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley><00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079905716.1017.31.camel@binkley><011101c40f8e$d6207300$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079906085.1017.39.camel@binkley><012701c40f8f$afe559c0$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079906619.1017.48.camel@binkley><019401c40f91$08b8cd60$72b9fc80@rwa1><1079907298.1017.55.camel@binkley><01b901c40f94$bbc6c940$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079908678.1017.59.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <01eb01c40f99$21f4f0d0$72b9fc80@rwa1> I'm not sure if I know enough to really contribute, but if you or someone else is going to work on this I'd be willing to try. Richard Ayer III From jimshep at mindspring.com Sun Mar 21 23:30:35 2004 From: jimshep at mindspring.com (Jim Shepherd) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:30:35 -0500 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely Message-ID: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> Performed the xorg upgrade via yum using the methods mentioned many times on this list: install xorg*; add /usr/X11R6/lib to ld.so.conf; run ldconfig; and restart xfs. When X is starting, I get the blue background and hourglass for a few seconds, then it goes to black for a few more seconds, and then repeats this cycle until a text scree comes up saying that X was restarted x times in the last 90 seconds. I have looked through the XFree86.0.log, messages, and dmesg files, but can;t find what's going wrong. I have appended the contents of these files for reference. Any ideas are appreciated. -Jim Shepherd /var/log/messages: ... Mar 21 17:21:28 kitchen gpm[1829]: *** info [startup.c(95)]: Mar 21 17:21:28 kitchen gpm[1829]: Started gpm successfully. Entered daemon mode. Mar 21 17:21:29 kitchen gpm: gpm startup succeeded Mar 21 17:21:29 kitchen crond: crond startup succeeded Mar 21 17:21:31 kitchen xfs: xfs startup succeeded Mar 21 17:21:31 kitchen anacron: anacron startup succeeded Mar 21 17:21:31 kitchen atd: atd startup succeeded Mar 21 17:21:31 kitchen readahead: Starting background readahead: Mar 21 17:21:32 kitchen rc: Starting readahead: succeeded Mar 21 17:21:33 kitchen messagebus: messagebus startup succeeded Mar 21 17:21:33 kitchen haldaemon: haldaemon startup succeeded Mar 21 17:22:00 kitchen gdm[2021]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0) Mar 21 17:22:00 kitchen gdm[2021]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1) Mar 21 17:22:00 kitchen gdm[2021]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 1 1) Mar 21 17:22:07 kitchen gdm[2033]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0) Mar 21 17:22:07 kitchen gdm[2033]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1) Mar 21 17:22:07 kitchen gdm[2033]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 1 1) Mar 21 17:22:16 kitchen gdm[2045]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0) Mar 21 17:22:16 kitchen gdm[2045]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1) Mar 21 17:22:16 kitchen gdm[2045]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 1 1) Mar 21 17:22:28 kitchen gdm[2057]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0) Mar 21 17:22:28 kitchen gdm[2057]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1) Mar 21 17:22:29 kitchen gdm[2057]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 1 1) Mar 21 17:22:30 kitchen gpm[1829]: *** info [client.c(137)]: Mar 21 17:22:30 kitchen gpm[1829]: Connecting at fd 6 ... /var/log/XFree86.0.log: This is a pre-release version of the X.org Foundation's X11. Portions of this release are based on XFree86 4.4RC2 and selected files from XFree86 4.4RC3. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.org Foundation "monolithic tree" CVS repository hosted at http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xorg/.902 (4.4.0 RC 2) (Red Hat Rawhide develomental build: 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6) Release Date: 18 December 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-4.ELsmp i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux kitchen.shepherdnet.net 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 #1 Fri Mar 12 14:01:55 EST 2004 i686 Build Date: 17 March 2004 Changelog Date: 29 February 2004 Build Host: tweety.devel.redhat.com Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/ to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 (bhcompile at tweety.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.3.3 20040216 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-2.1)) #1 Fri Mar 12 14:01:55 EST 2004 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sun Mar 21 17:22:24 2004 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Videocard0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) XKB: model: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |-->Input Device "DevInputMice" (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (II) Open APM successful (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.7 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (++) using VT number 7 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7124 card 14a4,2118 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7125 card 14a4,2118 rev 03 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2418 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,2410 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,2411 card 8086,2411 rev 02 class 01,01,80 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2412 card 8086,2412 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2413 card 8086,2413 rev 02 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2415 card 14a4,2118 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 14f1,1033 card 122d,4034 rev 08 class 07,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:02:0: chip 16ab,1102 card 16ab,1102 rev 02 class 02,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0002 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 1 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000bfff (0x1000) IX[B] (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xefd00000 - 0xefdfffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xe7b00000 - 0xe7bfffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (--) PCI:*(0:1:0) Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] rev 3, Mem @ 0xe8000000/26, 0xeff80000/19(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xefdefc00 - 0xefdeffff (0x400) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0xefdf0000 - 0xefdfffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0xeff80000 - 0xefffffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b43f (0x40) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b87f (0x80) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bc07 (0x8) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d83f (0x40) IX[B] [8] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B] [9] -1 0 0x00000540 - 0x0000054f (0x10) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d41f (0x20) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xefdefc00 - 0xefdeffff (0x400) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0xefdf0000 - 0xefdfffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0xeff80000 - 0xefffffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b43f (0x40) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b87f (0x80) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bc07 (0x8) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d83f (0x40) IX[B] [8] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B] [9] -1 0 0x00000540 - 0x0000054f (0x10) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d41f (0x20) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xefdefc00 - 0xefdeffff (0x400) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xefdf0000 - 0xefdfffff (0x10000) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0xeff80000 - 0xefffffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b43f (0x40) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b87f (0x80) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bc07 (0x8) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d83f (0x40) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x00000540 - 0x0000054f (0x10) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d41f (0x20) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B] (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension FontCache (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 0.0.2 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a (II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a (II) Module record: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "i810" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o (II) Module i810: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.3.0 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:01:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset i810e found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xefdefc00 - 0xefdeffff (0x400) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xefdf0000 - 0xefdfffff (0x10000) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0xeff80000 - 0xefffffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b43f (0x40) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b87f (0x80) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bc07 (0x8) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d83f (0x40) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x00000540 - 0x0000054f (0x10) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d41f (0x20) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B] (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xefdefc00 - 0xefdeffff (0x400) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xefdf0000 - 0xefdfffff (0x10000) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0xeff80000 - 0xefffffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [9] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [10] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [11] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [12] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b43f (0x40) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b87f (0x80) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bc07 (0x8) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d83f (0x40) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x00000540 - 0x0000054f (0x10) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d41f (0x20) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B] [22] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [23] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (**) I810(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 24 (==) I810(0): RGB weight 888 (==) I810(0): Default visual is TrueColor (II) Loading sub module "vbe" (II) LoadModule: "vbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) I810(0): initializing int10 (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 1024 kB (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM: Intel(R) 8xx Chipset Video BIOS (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 4.1 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(R) 8xx Chipset (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0 (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC supported (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC Level 2 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 1 sec. (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC read successfully (II) I810(0): Manufacturer: ENC Model: 1623 Serial#: 25440 (II) I810(0): Year: 2000 Week: 42 (II) I810(0): EDID Version: 1.2 (II) I810(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.300 V (II) I810(0): Sync: Separate (II) I810(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 30 vert.: 23 (II) I810(0): Gamma: 1.80 (II) I810(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display (II) I810(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) I810(0): redX: 0.595 redY: 0.350 greenX: 0.364 greenY: 0.574 (II) I810(0): blueX: 0.149 blueY: 0.125 whiteX: 0.300 whiteY: 0.319 (II) I810(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: (II) I810(0): 720x400 at 70Hz (II) I810(0): 640x480 at 60Hz (II) I810(0): 640x480 at 67Hz (II) I810(0): 640x480 at 72Hz (II) I810(0): 640x480 at 75Hz (II) I810(0): 800x600 at 56Hz (II) I810(0): 800x600 at 60Hz (II) I810(0): 800x600 at 72Hz (II) I810(0): 800x600 at 75Hz (II) I810(0): 832x624 at 75Hz (II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 60Hz (II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 70Hz (II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 75Hz (II) I810(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) I810(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) I810(0): clock: 65.0 MHz Image Size: 300 x 230 mm (II) I810(0): h_active: 1024 h_sync: 1048 h_sync_end 1184 h_blank_end 1344 h_border: 0 (II) I810(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 771 v_sync_end 777 v_blanking: 806 v_border: 0 (II) I810(0): Serial No: 25440100 (II) I810(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 60 kHz, PixClock max 90 MHz (II) I810(0): Monitor name: L330 (--) I810(0): Chipset: "i810e" (--) I810(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE8000000 (--) I810(0): IO registers at addr 0xEFF80000 (II) I810(0): I810CheckAvailableMemory: 151548k available (==) I810(0): Will alloc AGP framebuffer: 8192 kByte (==) I810(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-60.00 kHz (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-75.00 Hz (II) I810(0): Clock range: 9.50 to 136.00 MHz (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (vrefresh out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (vrefresh out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (unknown reason) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (hsync out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) (1280x960,Monitor0) mode clock 108MHz exceeds DDC maximum 90MHz (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "416x312" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "576x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (hsync out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1600x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1920x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "960x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory for mode) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory for mode) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory for mode) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (width too large for virtual size) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1152x768" (width too large for virtual size) (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) I810(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "1024x768" 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (**) I810(0): *Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "800x600" 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (**) I810(0): *Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (**) I810(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (**) I810(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (**) I810(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "832x624" 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (**) I810(0): Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "800x600" 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (**) I810(0): Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (**) I810(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "800x600" 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (**) I810(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync (**) I810(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline "640x480" 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (**) I810(0): Display dimensions: (300, 230) mm (**) I810(0): DPI set to (86, 84) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (**) I810(0): DRI is disabled because it runs only at 16-bit depth. (II) I810(0): XvMC is Disabled: use XvMCSurfaces config option to enable. (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0 0xeff80000 - 0xefffffff (0x80000) MS[B] [1] 0 0 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MS[B] [2] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [4] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0xefdefc00 - 0xefdeffff (0x400) MX[B] [8] -1 0 0xefdf0000 - 0xefdfffff (0x10000) MX[B] [9] -1 0 0xeff80000 - 0xefffffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [11] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) [12] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [13] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [14] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b43f (0x40) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b87f (0x80) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bc07 (0x8) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d83f (0x40) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x00000540 - 0x0000054f (0x10) IX[B] [22] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d41f (0x20) IX[B] [23] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B] [24] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [25] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xe8000000,0x4000000) (II) I810(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 (II) I810(0): Setting dot clock to 78.9 MHz [ 0x15 0x5 0x20 ] [ 23 7 2 ] (II) I810(0): chose watermark 0x22215000: (tab.freq 78.8) (II) I810(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 0 at 0x00000000 (pgoffset 0) (WW) I810(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 1024 pages failed (Cannot allocate memory) (II) I810(0): No physical memory available for 4194304 bytes of DCACHE (II) I810(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x00800000 (pgoffset 2048) (II) I810(0): Adding 512 scanlines for pixmap caching (II) I810(0): Allocated Scratch Memory (II) I810(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Horizontal and Vertical Lines Offscreen Pixmaps Setting up tile and stipple cache: 16 128x128 slots 4 256x256 slots (==) I810(0): Backing store disabled (==) I810(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) Option "dpms" (**) I810(0): DPMS enabled (**) I810(0): Direct rendering disabled (==) RandR enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (**) Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" (**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/input/mice" (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "IMPS/2" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 5 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard0" handled by legacy driver (**) Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" (**) DevInputMice: Device: "/dev/input/mice" (**) DevInputMice: Protocol: "IMPS/2" (**) Option "AlwaysCore" (**) DevInputMice: always reports core events (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) DevInputMice: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) DevInputMice: Buttons: 5 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "DevInputMice" (type: MOUSE) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded (II) DevInputMice: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 0 (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 [root at kitchen root]# From cra at WPI.EDU Sun Mar 21 23:32:16 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:32:16 -0500 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <405E130E.9090404@rueb.com> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> <405E0554.1070808@xmission.com> <1079904033.20240.5.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <405E130E.9090404@rueb.com> Message-ID: <20040321233216.GD8136@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 04:11:26PM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > kernel, the ball would still be in ATI/NVidia's court, but at least it > would only be the lowest level internals being kept secret, instead of > the whole thing being a black box. Wouldn't this actually make > maitenance easier for the manufacturer as well as for distro developers ATI's drivers already have an OSS component that interfaces with the kernel. You can try mucking with that to get it to work. From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 21 23:35:57 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:35:57 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 03:56:54PM -0600, Richard Ayer III wrote: > Maybe the mirrors and the main rawhide could all have an hour of scheduled > downtime every day or two in order be sure things are sync'ed up? That would annoy users I suspect. And many mirrors dont have the disk space to keep two copies for an instant switch. I dont actually think it will be that big a deal except during test releases where change rates are high, although up2date's inability to handle failover nicely does not help From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 21 23:39:14 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:39:14 -0500 Subject: 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <405E130E.9090404@rueb.com> References: <405E00AD.40300@xmission.com> <1079902619.1017.13.camel@binkley> <001001c40f88$60b4ff60$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1079903252.1017.15.camel@binkley> <405E0554.1070808@xmission.com> <1079904033.20240.5.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <405E130E.9090404@rueb.com> Message-ID: <20040321233914.GB24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 04:11:26PM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > video driver. Would this be a workable comromise between the > manufacturer's desire to keep their hardware internals secret (which in > the area of 3D chip design is actually pretty understandable) and our NVidia replace the entire GL subsystem with their own. > andmaintainers? It is my understanding that GLIDE was so thin and > efficient that it made essentially no measurable difference to performance. GLide is far from thin, but its very much a replacement for things like OpenGL. In the Linux case OpenGL is built on top of Glide for Voodoo3,4,5 series hardare but that is purely a design ease thing Its unlikely Nvidia would want to just use a thin layer as the performance stuff is often not just about hardware but about the entire hardware and software combination. I guess we just have to wait a few years until Intel and friends put the 3D on the CPU 8) Alan From cra at WPI.EDU Sun Mar 21 23:54:58 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:54:58 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040321235458.GE8136@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 06:35:57PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > That would annoy users I suspect. And many mirrors dont have the disk space > to keep two copies for an instant switch. I dont actually think it will be > that big a deal except during test releases where change rates are high, development/ is always a problem though. Perhaps filesystem snapshotting could be used to always serve a consistent view of the tree without expanding the required disk space much. To make a consistent, installable (via anaconda) development tree, could one use the comps.xml or other metadata to determine what packages need to exist for the install to succeed, along with making sure initrd.img/.buildstamp and stage2.img/.buildstamp versions are in sync? From tdiehl at rogueind.com Mon Mar 22 00:03:22 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 19:03:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: HOWTO for a simple install of Cyrus In-Reply-To: <405E04EA.7000204@skmoore.com> References: <1079957795.2746.18.camel@niobe> <405E04EA.7000204@skmoore.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Stephen Moore wrote: > How do you convert old uwimap mailboxes to cyrus? I have wanted to move > off uwimap for a while for performance reasons but always been too slack > to figure this out. Does cyrus use some kind of non-standard mailbox format?? If it does it is crap and should not be used. uw-imap for all of its warts at least uses a standard mailbox format called mbox. Tom From swamper at adelphia.net Mon Mar 22 00:03:33 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 19:03:33 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079899837.578.7.camel@binkley> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> <1079899837.578.7.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <20040322000333.GA20786@localhost.localdomain> seth vidal wrote: > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 14:20 -0500, Swamper wrote: > > William Hooper wrote: > > > Swamper said: > > > > Then what is the point of this running daily? > > > I wouldn't let a cron job update my system from a stable tree, let alone > > Why then is yum installed to run daily in the default setup for > > the cron job is just for convenience. Imagine how convenient it would be if it didn't choke on any little thing out of the ordinary. > > package because it thinks there is a problem but, again, why > > abort the whole process because one package has a problem when > > there are several others waiting that will update just fine? > > B/c an update is a single transaction. Either the transaction fails or > it succeeds. And if it fails to update multiple pending packages that will update fine just because it detects that one of them might not update properly then it failed to do what it was intended to do and that is to try to keep the system updated. It fails to succeed; Correct? > > > Yep. You want status reports. I want results. > > you seem to just want to complain w/o offering real help to solve this > supposed problem. Do you want real help to solve a supposed problem or supposed help to solve a real problem? If I'm the only one that sees room for improvement with yum then don't worry, be happy. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon Mar 22 00:18:26 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 19:18:26 -0500 Subject: Upgrading from rawhide 3/17 to /3/19 Message-ID: <405E30D2.5050901@insight.rr.com> I made a clean install from the rawhide tree on 3/17 and then upgraded to the 3/19 tree. I had a bit of trouble getting X to launch. The xorg-x11 version of the X server was upgraded during the http upgrade from the mirror. I checked /etc/ld.so.conf and the settings were already set to the below already. cat /etc/ld.so.conf /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib /usr/X11R6/lib I then checked if xfs was running and did not see any xfs process running. I then ran "chkconfig xfs on" this was then followed by "restart xfs". X still did not want to start up. I tried a reboot after wiping the /tmp directory clean from all files. After reboot, X started up fine. The symptom that X was displaying before I tried the above staps was that it came up to a black screen. You could not ctl-alt-Fx to any terminal. To get out of the black screen, you had to do a ctl-alt-del in order for the computer to reboot. There was a bit of a delay before the computer finally rebooted. The delay was probably near a minutes time, if not longer. Eventually, the computer responded without having to do a hard reset. I'm also running SELinux in order to test it out. It seems to me ro be a major distraction. Sometimes directories are not seen, though they are actually there if you tried to see them in a shell. The real distractions with SELinux is that everything seems to error out with you don't have premission to perform this task, contact your administrator. The simple task was to mount drives. Message in pop-up states. There are no filesystems which you are allowed to mount or unmount. Contact your administrator. OK! This used to work fine without SELinux. This limitation or additional setup step will cause a lot of grief for users. Now for trying to configure the display. Between running the command from either a regular users terminal or launching from hat >> system settings >> display. The trouble is more obvious that SELinux is getting in the way. Running it from a root shell allows the program to work correctly. gnome-terminal as regular user shows below: system-config-display Could not set exec context to user_u:sysadm_r:sysadm_t. I liked that the soundcard was configured correctly (AC 97) and I did not have to add a lot of modules to it manually. Below is etc/modprobe.conf (untouched from having to add anything manually to it.) Ethernet, sound and my usb drive work without setting anything up. cat /etc/modprobe.conf alias eth0 ne2k-pci alias eth1 3c59x alias MASK=255.0.0.0 ne2k-pci alias K=127.0.0.0 3c59x alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias usb-controller uhci-hcd My usb scanner does not work with the 2.6 kernel still. It works fine with the 2.4 kernel with the same programs installed. Good luck with getting Fedora Core 2 Test 2 ready for the burn. Overall, it looks good. Jim From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Mon Mar 22 00:22:26 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:22:26 +0100 Subject: HOWTO for a simple install of Cyrus In-Reply-To: References: <1079957795.2746.18.camel@niobe> <405E04EA.7000204@skmoore.com> Message-ID: <1079914946.3954.266.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Mo, den 22.03.2004 schrieb Tom Diehl um 01:03: > On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Stephen Moore wrote: > > > How do you convert old uwimap mailboxes to cyrus? I have wanted to move > > off uwimap for a while for performance reasons but always been too slack > > to figure this out. > > Does cyrus use some kind of non-standard mailbox format?? If it does it is > crap and should not be used. uw-imap for all of its warts at least uses a > standard mailbox format called mbox. > > Tom I prefer standards too, but cyrus-imapd is the most powerful open source IMAP server available. For the migration question see i.e. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mimap/chapter/ch09.html Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl Sirendipity 01:19:46 up 2 days, 10:02, load average: 0.37, 0.42, 0.27 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On less layer of confusion. From spam at tachegroup.com Mon Mar 22 00:36:15 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 19:36:15 -0500 Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: <65201.65.41.50.216.1079910029.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: Yes I did, but I had to do this to get it working. Now this is after a stock install of FC2 test. rpm --import /usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora* on 3/21/2004 6:00 PM, William Hooper at whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net wrote: > > TGS said: >> so the keys are okay on my system. So why are the rpm incorrect? > > Looks to me that you don't have the fedora-test key installed. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon Mar 22 00:39:24 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 19:39:24 -0500 Subject: Gnucash won't start In-Reply-To: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040316214307.54857.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <405E35BC.5000303@insight.rr.com> Callum Benepe wrote: > Hi All, > > I just updated Gnucash to 1.8.8-4 with Up2date, but > now get the following error message, and Gnucash won't > start. Any ideas, please? Thanks! > > ** WARNING **: Failed to open module gnucash/app-utils > > ** WARNING **: : could not locate gnucash/app-utils > interface v.0 > > ERROR: Unbound variable: gnc:setup-gettext > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com > > With the latest installation, I get the below error (xorg installed now) gnucash Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). This is version gnucash-1.8.8-1. After running up2date to get the latest programs, two additional programs were added. (lobofx and openhbci) g-wrap-1.3.4-5.1 gnucash-1.8.8-4 libofx-0.6.6-1 openhbci-0.9.14-2 I get the same splash screen starting up during both the older programs and with te=he newer programs installed. The splash screen starts, then crashes to Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) The screen is up and running. The X server is alive. I did not restart X after installing the newer packages. I will try again after X is restarted. I ended up with a false positive when I started xmms without restarting X. (Old library values still loaded, still in memory, for loaded libraries) Jim From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon Mar 22 01:17:21 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:17:21 -0500 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> References: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> Message-ID: <405E3EA1.20503@insight.rr.com> Jim Shepherd wrote: > Performed the xorg upgrade via yum using the methods mentioned many > times on this list: install xorg*; add /usr/X11R6/lib to ld.so.conf; run > ldconfig; I take it was ldconfig xfs on and restart xfs. When X is starting, I get the blue > background and hourglass for a few seconds, then it goes to black for a > few more seconds, and then repeats this cycle until a text scree comes > up saying that X was restarted x times in the last 90 seconds. gdm gave me the same error as you describe. I have > looked through the XFree86.0.log, messages, and dmesg files, but can;t > find what's going wrong. I have appended the contents of these files > for reference. Any ideas are appreciated. This is a shot in the dark. I cleared the /tmp directory out of all lingering files, Then I rebooted and the problems went away, X now starts. Looking at your XFree error file, you have similar computer specs as I have. 810 video anyway. Here is what the video section looks like. It seems to be working alright. The rationality why I deleted all files in /tmp and rebooted was that I figured there were wrong entries in some of the "leftover" files in /tmp that might kill X fonts or another setting. I keep no important stuff in /tmp, so I figured it was worth a try. It worked for me. If you keep iso files or something important to you in /tmp, this might not be a good idea for your situation. Jim Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "i810" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "Intel 815" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection > > -Jim Shepherd > > /var/log/messages: ..... See the original message for log From nicodietrich at web.de Mon Mar 22 01:21:33 2004 From: nicodietrich at web.de (Nico Dietrich) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:21:33 +0100 Subject: x problem after updating to gtk2-2.4 Message-ID: <405E3F9D.4090503@web.de> Hi there, i know this list is about test-releases, and my question is about a problem updating only gtk2 to the 2.4 release, but maybe someone can help me anyway. The problem is that xfree doesn't start anymore when booting in runlevel 5. The mouse appears (in form of a cross), but when moving it, i get an error message, that says that an xserver is already running. It works to start x as root after booting to runlevel 3, but not as a user. (same thing as above). Once as root in gnome i can also start gtk-programs without problems. I could imagine it's some kind of authentification problem, so i updated some related packages like pam, and also gdm, to the current devel version, but that didn't help. Maybe i'm still stuck with an old configuration file and need one, which was created as .rpmnew ... But if so which one? This problem happened to me once before on my own computer; as i didn't find a solution, i reinstalled fc2-test1. Now my mother has the same problem (i told her to update to gtk2-2.4 because of a printer-driver in gimp-print...), but hasn't got the download speed to download the new test-cds. That's why i'm asking here: Does anyone know how to solve this problem (or that it's not possible to solve)? It would be a great help to me (as i already spend my weekend phoning, surfing and telling my mother cryptic commands to enter...) Thanks, nico -- Nicolas Dietrich Uppsala University Sweden From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 22 01:59:38 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:59:38 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1079920778.2164.8.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 18:35 -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > That would annoy users I suspect. And many mirrors dont have the disk space > to keep two copies for an instant switch. I dont actually think it will be > that big a deal except during test releases where change rates are high, > although up2date's inability to handle failover nicely does not help The mechanism that yum uses to download is called urlgrabber, right now the guys who write urlgrabber have been undergoing some massive enhancements to the failover and 'mirrored grab' mechanisms in it. you can check out some of the items in it here: http://linux.duke.edu/projects/urlgrabber/ it's being worked on by Michael Stenner and Ryan Tomayko and it's just a wonderful python module for doing downloads. I'd love to see it being used in up2date (if possible) and anaconda at some point. Being pure python limits the dependencies it pulls in dramatically and makes it easy to use on installer disks, for example. The urlgrabber in use in yum right now is an older version and does not show off the new features they've been working on, definitely worh checking out. -sv From gds at chartertn.net Mon Mar 22 02:24:18 2004 From: gds at chartertn.net (Gene Smith) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:24:18 -0500 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: Bart Kalita wrote, On 03/21/2004 03:33 PM: > jim tate wrote: > >> I'm having problem of updating the Kdebase , chkfontpath packages, >> they can't find 'xfs' , needed as a dependency. and I have XFree86-xfs >> installed. >> I have missgivings about upgrade to xorg-x11. >> In other words I'M SCARED. There you have the truth. >> >> Jim Tate >> >> > There is a short description of my xorg install process: > > [root at nemesis bart]# yum --exclude=xorg* --exclude=anaconda > --exclude=gdm --exclude=kdebase --exclude=kdebase-devel > --exclude=chkfontpath --exclude=XFree86* update Is it normal for yum to get very quite (80-90% cpu and very little disk activity) for a long time after all the header and packages are downloaded and after printing "Test transaction complete, Success!"? I killed it and started over thinking maybe it was hung but is is still being very slow at this point the 2nd time. From w.steenburg at myactv.net Mon Mar 22 02:31:52 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:31:52 -0500 Subject: rebooting issue and fstab issue Message-ID: <1079922712.2254.12.camel@FC2> Hello everyone, I've had two minor problems and was wondering if anyone would have some insight into the possible causes. First is that ever since installing FC2test1 my computer will not reboot from Gnome. It will shut down cleanly, but if I want to reboot I have to select that option and then hit the reset button. The last message I get is "Rebooting the system." then nothing. I've tried disabling acpi and apm but that doesn't clear it up. I'm using a Soyo KT600 Ultra mb. The second problem I have appeared after my first kernel update. This entry appears in my fstab: none /var/lib/rpc_pipes rpc_pipefs defaults 0 0 This fails to mount because the mount point does not exist. I realize I could just create the mount point in the file system and the error *should* go away. But I am curious as to what this entry is for. It doesn't seem to adversely affect anything. I realize these are rather trivial issues, but any insights would be most welcome. Thanks. Wayne Steenburg From w.steenburg at myactv.net Mon Mar 22 02:36:33 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:36:33 -0500 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> References: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> Message-ID: <1079922993.2254.16.camel@FC2> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 18:30 -0500, Jim Shepherd wrote: > Performed the xorg upgrade via yum using the methods mentioned many > times on this list: install xorg*; add /usr/X11R6/lib to ld.so.conf; run > ldconfig; and restart xfs. When X is starting, I get the blue > background and hourglass for a few seconds, then it goes to black for a > few more seconds, and then repeats this cycle until a text scree comes > up saying that X was restarted x times in the last 90 seconds. I have > looked through the XFree86.0.log, messages, and dmesg files, but can;t > find what's going wrong. I have appended the contents of these files > for reference. Any ideas are appreciated. > > -Jim Shepherd This may not help, but when I installed xorg X wouldn't start either. Something about the fonts not loading. Running: /sbin/chkconfig --add xfs as root did the trick for me. Good luck. Wayne Steenburg From phil at phil-anderson.com Mon Mar 22 02:40:46 2004 From: phil at phil-anderson.com (Phil Anderson) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:40:46 +1100 Subject: HOWTO for a simple install of Cyrus In-Reply-To: References: <1079957795.2746.18.camel@niobe> <405E04EA.7000204@skmoore.com> Message-ID: <20040322024045.GF9401@hallucination.phil-anderson.com> We updated from uwimap to dovecot, as dovecot uses mbox format by default, but creates it's own indexes (in the .imap subdirectory) to speed things up. You can use procmail, or what ever other mbox compatible program to play with your mbox files, and dovecot will automatically update it's indexes. Faster than uwimap and more compatible than cyrus. On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 07:03:22PM -0500, Tom Diehl wrote: > On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Stephen Moore wrote: > > > How do you convert old uwimap mailboxes to cyrus? I have wanted to move > > off uwimap for a while for performance reasons but always been too slack > > to figure this out. > > Does cyrus use some kind of non-standard mailbox format?? If it does it is > crap and should not be used. uw-imap for all of its warts at least uses a > standard mailbox format called mbox. > > Tom > > > From iainr at zathras.org Mon Mar 22 03:38:49 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 03:38:49 +0000 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079902485.1017.9.camel@binkley> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> <1079886130.15236.23.camel@binkley> <405DD3E8.4000108@zathras.org> <1079899689.578.3.camel@binkley> <405DFE1C.30607@zathras.org> <1079902485.1017.9.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <405E5FC9.3000207@zathras.org> seth vidal wrote: >>>so you're controlling your own tree and things are still broken? This >>>sounds like $user-error to me. >>> >>> >>> >>Things will break for various reasons , including user-error. The user >>error ones tend to get noticed very quickly since they tend to effect >>large numbers of machines. Not all the hosts are running the same rpm >>sets so you get the occasional unforseen conflict, some people will >>leave huge amounts of crap in /tmp or /var/tmp so some updates will >>fail. some machines are switched off for a couple of weeks then switched >>on again, some combinations of postinstall scripts don't work well at >>install time but are fine if you update/install the rpms on an installed >>machine... >> >> >> > >but that's just it. Yum tries to resolve deps based on what it has >available. > We're not running yum, we're using an in house tool since we couldn't find anything that would meet all our requirements[0], for some combinations of host/rpm we want to specify rpm versions tighter than "what's available" > >so what you've told me is: > >1. you control your repository tree >2. you control the update runs on your system >3. you know that there are unresolved deps in your tree > In the tree, no I don't "know" that. There could be no unresolved deps in the tree but at the same time there may be dependancy problems with a host running one of about 100 rpms sets that aren't our standard set, we could write something to check this but the pain level hasn't hit high enough to warrant it - yet. though that seems to be on the cards for this summer. >4. you're CHOOSING to run a global update, knowing that things are not >right. > > No, we're running a global update having done a reasonable set of checks, we expect the system to let us know about failed rpms, dependancy errors or not. > >So how is this not an unreasonable user-error? > I didn't say it wasn't an unreasonable error, merely pointed out that unresolved dependancies were not the only problems you'll run into if you're running automated updates, hence monitor/report the status of your updates. [0]There wasn't the last time we looked, this is an ever changing world, the usual disclaimers apply. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 22 03:42:42 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:42:42 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <405E5FC9.3000207@zathras.org> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> <1079886130.15236.23.camel@binkley> <405DD3E8.4000108@zathras.org> <1079899689.578.3.camel@binkley> <405DFE1C.30607@zathras.org> <1079902485.1017.9.camel@binkley> <405E5FC9.3000207@zathras.org> Message-ID: <1079926962.2164.21.camel@binkley> > We're not running yum, we're using an in house tool since we couldn't > find anything that would meet all our requirements[0], for some > combinations of host/rpm we want to specify rpm versions tighter than > "what's available" this is something in the cards for yum's next major version which I'm working on a little bit as often as I can. there are a lot of things I'd like to get implemented and installing random versions of things is something I'd like to do nicely. > In the tree, no I don't "know" that. There could be no unresolved deps > in the tree but at the same time there may be dependancy problems with a > host running one of about 100 rpms sets that aren't our standard set, we > could write something to check this but the pain level hasn't hit high > enough to warrant it - yet. though that seems to be on the cards for > this summer. I hope to have a working system in place for the next version of yum before summer hits. This will be the framework I want to use to add a fair number of useful features. In short, stay tuned. :) > No, we're running a global update having done a reasonable set of > checks, we expect the system to let us know about failed rpms, > dependancy errors or not. but you also expect it to install any and everything it actually can, is that right? > I didn't say it wasn't an unreasonable error, merely pointed out that > unresolved dependancies were not the only problems you'll run into if > you're running automated updates, hence monitor/report the status of > your updates. again we get into the issue of error codes and how to report back, it gets increasingly complex, I've found to report a percentage of failure/success. -sv From michal at harddata.com Mon Mar 22 04:19:31 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:19:31 -0700 Subject: gimp from March 18th Message-ID: <20040321211931.A7242@mail.harddata.com> There were already "does not work" complaints about gimp. But AFAICS this is not that surprising as I see the following: $ rpm -qip gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm error: gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm: headerRead failed: region trailer: BAD, tag 1785029492 type 1601321580 offset -1868783980 count 1700754432 error: gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm: headerRead failed: region trailer: BAD, tag 980378218 type 1701016671 offset -1916433779 count 1918858240 This with files which look like that: 9295063 Mar 18 07:02 gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm 888337 Mar 18 07:02 gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm I checked with rsync a few different locations and all they seem to have the same files so the problem is likely at the origin. Michal From gds at chartertn.net Mon Mar 22 04:44:08 2004 From: gds at chartertn.net (Gene Smith) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:44:08 -0500 Subject: Setting sound level on startup In-Reply-To: <405DC66E.5030001@rueb.com> References: <405DC66E.5030001@rueb.com> Message-ID: Steve Bergman wrote, On 03/21/2004 11:44 AM: > I'm running current rawhide with snd-emu10k1. I see that in > /etc/init.d/halt, the mixer settings are saved in /etc/.aumixrc. > > However sound level is still set to 0 after the system comes up and I > log in. > > It looks to me like there are several simple things wrong here. > > I see a line in /etc/rc.d/rc.local: > > aumix-minimal > > To be honest, I can't remember whether I added that line or if it came > with iniscripts. Anyway shouldn't that be "aumix -L /etc/aumixrc" I was wondering why every time I booted into FC2 I had to fix my sound setting again. Thanks for finding this! Anyhow, I changed /etc/init.d/halt to save to /etc/aumixrc (not a hidden file). And I added "aumix -L >/dev/null" into /etc/rc.d/rc.local and it now works ok and keeps sound levels after reboot. (Not sure that the /dev/null really necessary.) > > And shouldn't the line in S01halt be: > > aumix-minimal -S /etc/aumixrc instead of aumix-minimal -S /etc/.aumixrc > > (/etc/aumixrc is the default config file for aumix.) > > For that matter, shouldn't "aumix-minimal -L" run in Xsession to set the > user's saved volume level? (But only if $DISPLAY is local) I think you are saying that sound level setting should be set for each user, not just globally in /etc/aumixrc but in ~/.aumixrc. Do you know exactly how this could/should be done? Tks, -gene From spam at tachegroup.com Mon Mar 22 05:10:47 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:10:47 -0500 Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Spook too soon, seemed to help with a few rpm, but I still have 1376 that are not valid sigs. on 3/21/2004 7:36 PM, TGS at spam at tachegroup.com wrote: > Yes I did, but I had to do this to get it working. Now this is after a stock > install of FC2 test. > > rpm --import /usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora* > > > on 3/21/2004 6:00 PM, William Hooper at whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net wrote: > >> >> TGS said: >>> so the keys are okay on my system. So why are the rpm incorrect? >> >> Looks to me that you don't have the fedora-test key installed. > From steve at rueb.com Mon Mar 22 05:27:08 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:27:08 -0600 Subject: Setting sound level on startup In-Reply-To: References: <405DC66E.5030001@rueb.com> Message-ID: <405E792C.1080006@rueb.com> Gene Smith wrote: > > I think you are saying that sound level setting should be set for each > user, not just globally in /etc/aumixrc but in ~/.aumixrc. Do you know > exactly how this could/should be done? > > I'd put it in the /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession script. Xsession is run as the user so a 'aumix-minimal -L' would set the mixer for the particular user as aumix looks for ~/.aumixrc first. However it should only be done if the session is local. i.e. on the system console and not on an X terminal accross the building. MACHINE=`echo $DISPLAY | cut -d":" -f1` if [ x$MACHINE = "x" -o x$MACHINE = "xlocalhost" ] then # Apply user mixer settings aumix-minimal -L else # Tell esd aware apps (xmms, gnome, etc) to send sound to a remote # sound server on the user's xterminal using the default esd port. export ESPEAKER=$MACHINE:16001 fi Is ESPEAKER set somewhere else already in FC1/2? I know that it is not in RH9. Not sure how KDE/artsd would figure into this. -Steve From martin.richard at rogers.com Mon Mar 22 05:21:43 2004 From: martin.richard at rogers.com (Richard Martin) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:21:43 -0500 Subject: 3. 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <20040321214239.BFEA773CCF@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040322052657.IGKK289632.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rocket97yj1qqi> I have tried every which way to get any ATI driver to work with Fedora Core 1.9. Has any one tried using SNAP, I couldn't figure out how to install it, please post instructions if it works for you. Win user, unless....................... From tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com Mon Mar 22 05:55:46 2004 From: tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com (George Garvey) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:55:46 -0800 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040322055546.GX3998@inxservices.com> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 06:35:57PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > And many mirrors dont have the disk space > to keep two copies for an instant switch. I dont actually think it will be > that big a deal except during test releases where change rates are high, > although up2date's inability to handle failover nicely does not help Respectfully, Alan, this must be from no experience, just as an idea (the infamous SHOULD). I doubt you've even been in the position of someone with an FC1 box, updating it from rawhide; and therefore don't know what you're talking about from experience. (Of course, I may be wrong, and that is a data point: it works under some conditions, and not others, but that fact doesn't seem to be being investigated, either.) You may not think it, but a lot of us are experiencing it. Ignore the issues with rawhide that everyone says are what one deserves for doing that. That is accepted as a given. The up2date and yum issues have been outrageous. It IS a big deal. It is not just failover. It is bad files that up2date somehow doesn't notice are bad until AFTER it has failed to install them. Just a few minutes ago, the fact that SysVinit was installed was removed from the rpm data base on one system. rpm --rebuilddb still didn't know that SysVinit was installed. All because up2date failed and quit in the middle, because it (apparently) had downloaded a bad copy of gnome-vfs2. So now, no more updates for SysVinit, ever again, unless one notices what happened. That is just the latest of many, many unexpected behaviours from up2date. (Turned out to be a lot more missing than SysVinit, by the way.) (I don't know much about yum, because I gave up on it quite a while back.) It is constantly repeated, "use mirrors" to solve problems with connecting to download.redhat. Then in other posts you see, from the same people, "the mirrors are broken and not in sync, haven't been for days/weeks." If the mirrors can't access download.redhat, how are we supposed to? I don't want to access download.redhat. Willing to use a mirror. But that's not always possible: one just doesn't know which mirrors are worth using this time, and sometimes everyone I try is broken. I doubt very much that I'll be doing any testing for FC3. There is no infrastructure for it that works consistently, and that doesn't seem to be being addressed. Dealing with the other issues would be acceptable. Adding this frustration on top of it is too much. I believe I'll just become a parasite and install FC2, and get updates to FC2. I know. No one will miss me. But I don't understand what is motivating otherwise intelligent people to keep saying there is no problem. If the problem is that hard to fix, that otherwise intelligent people have to claim that it doesn't exist rather than deal with it, why not just say that it is too difficult and no one will be fixing it due to lack of time to work on it? It is just possible, if the problem were actually acknowledged and investigated and specified, that someone with the time WOULD fix it. It has happened before. It is very bizarre. Help us test. But we won't help you be able to test. Seems a bit schizophrenic from here. It really does get one to wondering what is actually going on, because this can't possibly make sense without some hidden datum to put it into perspective. I don't like to rant and complain. I was very surprised, though, to see someone whose views I've come to respect almost denying that the situation exists. I just have no way to make sense out of what is going on. Apparently, I'm not alone in that position, from the torrent of complaints, and the quality of responses. From pri.rhl1 at iadonisi.to Mon Mar 22 06:23:26 2004 From: pri.rhl1 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:23:26 -0500 Subject: HOWTO for a simple install of Cyrus In-Reply-To: References: <1079957795.2746.18.camel@niobe> <405E04EA.7000204@skmoore.com> Message-ID: <1079936606.3090.16.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 19:03, Tom Diehl wrote: [snip] > Does cyrus use some kind of non-standard mailbox format?? If it does it is > crap and should not be used. uw-imap for all of its warts at least uses a > standard mailbox format called mbox. Is mbox actually an standard, or just a defacto standard? Just curious. Same question with regards to Maildir. Really, what I'm asking, is, does it really matter? As long as the IMAP protocol offered by the server complies with the IMAP standard, it shouldn't really matter what's on the backend. Heck, for a really high end mailserver supporting hundreds of thousands or even millions of mailboxes, even a database backend (Oracle, DB2, Postresql, whatever) might make sense. Well, in some cases it does matter what the back end format is, but cyrus is most definitely designed to be run in a 'sealed server' type environment, i.e: no local unix accounts for users. Though you CAN configure it to use pam so that creating a Unix user is all that is needed (aside from creating the actual mailbox if you don't enable the autocreate option). Anyhow, in answer to your questions, the format is probably closest to the maildir format. There is one directory per mailbox and one message per file. It differs from the Maildir format in that names of the files are simple numbers followed by a dot (e.g.: 1025.) and there is no dependency on inode numbers, so you don't need to run anything special after a restore operation (at least not to deal with the differing inodes after restore). The format of the actual message files, I believe, is identical to Maildir. Same as mbox without the leading colon-less 'From' line and with only one message per file. There have been debates ad-nauseum about the benefits/drawbacks of Maildir vs. mbox. I won't go into that here. But basically, if you're a Maildir partisan, cyrus' format is just fine. If you're more of an mbox fan, well, you might not like it. But personally, I see no reason to reject cyrus based solely on its mailbox format. Check out news://comp.mail.sendmail and in particular http://anfi.homeunix.net/ for information on integrating sendmail with cyrus. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From joe at tmsusa.com Mon Mar 22 06:40:20 2004 From: joe at tmsusa.com (joe) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:40:20 -0800 Subject: 3. 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <20040322052657.IGKK289632.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rocket97yj1qqi> References: <20040322052657.IGKK289632.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rocket97yj1qqi> Message-ID: <405E8A54.9040908@tmsusa.com> Richard Martin wrote: >I have tried every which way to get any ATI driver to work with Fedora Core >1.9. Has any one tried using SNAP, I couldn't figure out how to install it, >please post instructions if it works for you. > > >Win user, unless....................... > > Well, if you want to use windows, go ahead - not my cup of tea - I could never switch to windows over a video card, I'd buy a linux friendly video card instead. FWIW, I know people with ATI cards on FC1 and they had problems getting the card set up, but I believe they eventually got it running and were happy with the performance. I'm sure someone here will post their happy experiences with ATI cards/drivers. Joe -- Happily running linux with Nvidia cards on every desktop, because life it too short for that other nonsense. From steve at rueb.com Mon Mar 22 07:17:50 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:17:50 -0600 Subject: 3. 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <405E8A54.9040908@tmsusa.com> References: <20040322052657.IGKK289632.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rocket97yj1qqi> <405E8A54.9040908@tmsusa.com> Message-ID: <405E931E.2050005@rueb.com> joe wrote: > Richard Martin wrote: > > FWIW, I know people with ATI cards on FC1 and they had problems getting > the card set up, but I believe they eventually got it running and were > happy with the performance. > > -- > Happily running linux with Nvidia cards on every desktop, because life > it too short for that other nonsense. > I'm quite happy with my Radeon 9100 using the stock Fedora driver. It "just works". I do a lot of installs, upgrades, etc. on this machine. I never even think about the video. Like I say, it just works. It's zippy enough to handle Return to Castle Wolfenstein at 1280x1024x32 with all the eye candy turned on. The 9100 is actually a better card than the 9200, BTW. ATI's numbering scheme is strange. -Steve From antti at victoria.fi Mon Mar 22 07:24:21 2004 From: antti at victoria.fi (Antti) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:24:21 +0200 Subject: hd install without floppy or cdrom Message-ID: <1079940260.1386.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> So, the subject says it all. Is this possible and where can I find instructions? Obviously my problem is that core 2 doesn't have a boot floppy image 'couse the kernel won't fit in it. -- -a From cra at WPI.EDU Mon Mar 22 07:31:56 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:31:56 -0500 Subject: hd install without floppy or cdrom In-Reply-To: <1079940260.1386.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079940260.1386.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040322073156.GK20103@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:24:21AM +0200, Antti wrote: > So, the subject says it all. Is this possible and where can I find > instructions? Obviously my problem is that core 2 doesn't have a boot > floppy image 'couse the kernel won't fit in it. Stick isolinux/initrd.img and isolinux/vmlinuz in /boot and add to /etc/grub.conf. Of course, this assumes the system you want to install/upgrade already has grub on it. From ckloiber at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 07:37:51 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:37:51 +0800 Subject: hd install without floppy or cdrom In-Reply-To: <20040322073156.GK20103@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <1079940260.1386.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040322073156.GK20103@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <1079941071.1803.4.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 15:31, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:24:21AM +0200, Antti wrote: > > So, the subject says it all. Is this possible and where can I find > > instructions? Obviously my problem is that core 2 doesn't have a boot > > floppy image 'couse the kernel won't fit in it. > > Stick isolinux/initrd.img and isolinux/vmlinuz in /boot and add to > /etc/grub.conf. Of course, this assumes the system you want to > install/upgrade already has grub on it. Beware copying vmlinuz to /boot. There is a symlink named vmlinuz already there linking to your running kernel. Blindly copy it there and you may have no way to back out. I like copying the new kernel/initrd as /boot/v and /boot/i (less typing making the grub entry) Then I add the entry: title Self-Destruct kernel /v initrd /i Reboot and select the new entry "Self-Destruct". Also helpful to have a separate partition holding the isos. Anaconda won't let you mess with the partition holding the isos. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From Marc.Heckmann at Schmidlin-CH.COM Mon Mar 22 08:18:42 2004 From: Marc.Heckmann at Schmidlin-CH.COM (Marc Heckmann) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:18:42 +0100 Subject: Token Ring not Compiling in the test core from 2.6 kernel Message-ID: Hi all, I have see that the Token Ring network module are not compiled in the 2.6 kernel config files, please notes that there exist allready people or company with this network interface, thank's. Kinds Regards, Marc From pmatilai at welho.com Mon Mar 22 08:33:45 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:33:45 +0200 (EET) Subject: Apt-get question?? In-Reply-To: <405DC75B.9050305@comcast.net> References: <405DC75B.9050305@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, jim tate wrote: > doing a apt-get --ingnore-missing upgrade after doing apt-get update. > Why won't apt ignore the bad packages and upgrade others, about 60 other > packages. > Error message below in Attached. Uh, completely unnecessary to put such a log into OOo attachment, plain ascii is far preferred and for such a tiny snippet having it inline would've been best, and preferably real copy-paste of the whole thing, "apt-get ignore-missing upgrade" is not a valid command (missing -- before the option) As for the problem itself: --ignore-missing *tries* to deal with missing packages but there are no guarantees that it succeeds in doing so if important bits of dependency chains are missing. - Panu - From alan at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 09:00:17 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 04:00:17 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <20040322055546.GX3998@inxservices.com> References: <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040322055546.GX3998@inxservices.com> Message-ID: <20040322090017.GA3914@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 09:55:46PM -0800, George Garvey wrote: > (the infamous SHOULD). I doubt you've even been in the position of someone > with an FC1 box, updating it from rawhide; and therefore don't know what > you're talking about from experience. (Of course, I may be wrong, and that > is a data point: it works under some conditions, and not others, but that > fact doesn't seem to be being investigated, either.) You are wrong. I also help run a large ftp site, so I deal with both sides of this. > The up2date and yum issues have been outrageous. It IS a big deal. It is > not just failover. It is bad files that up2date somehow doesn't notice are > bad until AFTER it has failed to install them. Just a few minutes ago, the Oh I have a page of bugs filed against up2date, use yum. Up2date in rawhide is IMHO currently unusable. But its a *test* release so the fact I have a page of bugs filed is simply testing and hopefully they will get fixed in time. > I don't like to rant and complain. I was very surprised, though, to see > someone whose views I've come to respect almost denying that the situation > exists. I just have no way to make sense out of what is going on. > Apparently, I'm not alone in that position, from the torrent of complaints, > and the quality of responses. I'm not denying the problem exists, I'm simply pointing out that the proposed fixes don't work either - and also that I don't think it is going to bite production systems because the slower rate of change means mirrors tend to keep in sync. Alan From alan at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 09:02:30 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 04:02:30 -0500 Subject: 3. 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <405E931E.2050005@rueb.com> References: <20040322052657.IGKK289632.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rocket97yj1qqi> <405E8A54.9040908@tmsusa.com> <405E931E.2050005@rueb.com> Message-ID: <20040322090230.GB3914@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:17:50AM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > I'm quite happy with my Radeon 9100 using the stock Fedora driver. It > "just works". I do a lot of installs, upgrades, etc. on this machine. > I never even think about the video. Like I say, it just works. It's Ditto for the 7xxx and the 9100 cards. The later 9x00 cards are not things I've tried however. From alan at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 09:03:50 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 04:03:50 -0500 Subject: Token Ring not Compiling in the test core from 2.6 kernel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040322090349.GC3914@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:18:42AM +0100, Marc Heckmann wrote: > Hi all, > > I have see that the Token Ring network module are not compiled > in the 2.6 kernel config files, please notes that there exist allready > people or company with this network interface, thank's. Make sure you stick things like this in bugzilla. Even better - if you can test the stuff add a note about what h/w you can test 8) From kohli at webdeko.com Mon Mar 22 09:39:44 2004 From: kohli at webdeko.com (Markus Kohli) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:39:44 +0100 Subject: 3. 2.6.4 vanilla kernel and ATI drivers for 9700 Pro don't work In-Reply-To: <20040322052657.IGKK289632.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rocket97yj1qqi> References: <20040322052657.IGKK289632.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rocket97yj1qqi> Message-ID: <200403221039.44364.kohli@webdeko.com> I'm running my Ati Radeon 9800 Pro with Kernel 2.6.3 and the Ati Drivers without a problem (Full 3D support aso.) I didn't follow the thread from the beginning, it seems... Is your problem specific for the 2.6.4 kernel? -- Why are you here, and what can I do to change that? From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Mon Mar 22 10:28:28 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:28:28 +0200 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <1079802880.5054.36.camel@T7.linux> <200403212033.44627.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <64851.65.41.50.216.1079898623.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <200403212231.22164.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1079904881.1017.26.camel@binkley> <00ea01c40f8d$b7c62cc0$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1079951307.1919.11.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 23:44, Richard Ayer III wrote: > Maybe a good idea would be for there to be 2 copies of the main repository, > one for public access and one for mirrors only to sync off of (assuming that > wouldn't bee ridiculously difficult to setup/maintain and/or prohibitively > expensive)? > > Richard Ayer III > A couple of points to add to this discussion. RedHat does say that the official mirrors get preferred bandwidth. If that is true, I don??t know what your suggestion buys unless it makes the server farm more reliable. The cost value trade-off depends somewhat on the expected load level. If the current situation of massive changes and high load is to be routine, then I agree with your suggestion. If it is a once a year situation, then usually the extra assets will be sitting idle. From bartk at clara.co.uk Mon Mar 22 11:01:28 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:01:28 +0000 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <405EC788.9020608@clara.co.uk> Gene Smith wrote: > Bart Kalita wrote, On 03/21/2004 03:33 PM: > >> jim tate wrote: >> >>> I'm having problem of updating the Kdebase , chkfontpath packages, >>> they can't find 'xfs' , needed as a dependency. and I have >>> XFree86-xfs installed. >>> I have missgivings about upgrade to xorg-x11. >>> In other words I'M SCARED. There you have the truth. >>> >>> Jim Tate >>> >>> >> There is a short description of my xorg install process: >> >> [root at nemesis bart]# yum --exclude=xorg* --exclude=anaconda >> --exclude=gdm --exclude=kdebase --exclude=kdebase-devel >> --exclude=chkfontpath --exclude=XFree86* update > > > Is it normal for yum to get very quite (80-90% cpu and very little > disk activity) for a long time after all the header and packages are > downloaded and after printing "Test transaction complete, Success!"? I > killed it and started over thinking maybe it was hung but is is still > being very slow at this point the 2nd time. > > > Depending on the amount of the updated files it might take a fair amount of time. -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From jimshep at mindspring.com Mon Mar 22 12:09:34 2004 From: jimshep at mindspring.com (Jim Shepherd) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 07:09:34 -0500 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: <405E3EA1.20503@insight.rr.com> References: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405E3EA1.20503@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1079957374.5705.12.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 20:17 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > This is a shot in the dark. I cleared the /tmp directory out of all > lingering files, Then I rebooted and the problems went away, X now starts. > Completely cleared out my /tmp and /var/tmp directories and still get the same error. > Looking at your XFree error file, you have similar computer specs as I > have. 810 video anyway. Here is what the video section looks like. It > seems to be working alright. > My Screen section seems to be set up exactly like yours, except you seem to have an i815 while I seem to have an i810. What modules are you loading in the Modules section? -Jim From nphilipp at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 12:18:33 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:18:33 +0100 Subject: gimp from March 18th In-Reply-To: <20040321211931.A7242@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040321211931.A7242@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1079957913.6227.3.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 05:19, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > There were already "does not work" complaints about gimp. > But AFAICS this is not that surprising as I see the following: > > $ rpm -qip gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm > error: gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm: headerRead failed: region > trailer: BAD, tag 1785029492 type 1601321580 offset -1868783980 > count 1700754432 > error: gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm: headerRead failed: region > trailer: BAD, tag 980378218 type 1701016671 offset -1916433779 > count 1918858240 > > This with files which look like that: > 9295063 Mar 18 07:02 gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm > 888337 Mar 18 07:02 gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm > > I checked with rsync a few different locations and all they seem > to have the same files so the problem is likely at the origin. No so quick ;-). Please check the MD5 sums of the files you have against these: 7cb1e0a441fd0a05c2048b1ea62d9925 gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm c4a5987ed46ab63a472d83fe34644561 gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm These are the same in our build system as well as on the ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de mirror. Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From camilo at mesias.co.uk Mon Mar 22 12:36:52 2004 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:36:52 +0000 Subject: upgrade from FC1 to FC2 test1 using isos Message-ID: <405EDDE4.7030704@mesias.co.uk> Hi I upgraded from FC1 to FC2 test1 using isos. I found that the installer would not start while PCMCIA cards were present (flash reader and 802.11b cards), when removed I was able to perform the upgrade. After the upgrade acpid was not installed but was causing problems, I installed it manually. I found the known problem of libxml2-python needing an upgrade before yum or up2date would work. After the upgrade the pcmcia subsystem was not configured, I have to chkconfig --add pcmcia There are other minor problems including the CDROM drive has become inaccessible, some ACPI info (eg. battery level) is not available, and messy errors during boot. I will try to fix the remaining problems by upgrading against the development rpms... and report back with any further problems. Thanks all, -Cam -- camilo at mesias.co.uk <-- From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Mon Mar 22 13:17:34 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:17:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <20040322055546.GX3998@inxservices.com> References: <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040322055546.GX3998@inxservices.com> Message-ID: <3602.12.29.16.103.1079961454.squirrel@12.29.16.103> George Garvey said: > The up2date and yum issues have been outrageous. It IS a big deal. It > is > not just failover. It is bad files that up2date somehow doesn't notice are > bad until AFTER it has failed to install them. Neither the MD5 check or the GPG check noticed the file was corrupt? Have you filed a bug along with an attachement of the files? -- William Hooper From alexl at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 14:27:29 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 22 Mar 2004 15:27:29 +0100 Subject: avi files being detected as RIFF audio in nautilus In-Reply-To: <405C8CAA.4060802@rueb.com> References: <405C8CAA.4060802@rueb.com> Message-ID: <1079965649.29202.1214.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 19:25, Steve Bergman wrote: > I am experiencing a problem with launching files with an .avi extension > from nautilus. When the directory listing loads they show to be > microsoft video. When I select them they change to "RIFF audio". If I > try to launch, mautilus says that it won't do it because the extension > does not match the detected file type. The file command says they are > RIFF little-endian but I know that they are really valid avi files that > play just fine. What's up with this? > > I am running the current rawhide. This was a mime database bug which has been fixed upstream. It'll get fixed in rawhide soon (when we update to the latest shared-mime-data). =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's an oversexed Jewish gangster plagued by the memory of his family's brutal murder. She's a hard-bitten Bolivian snake charmer with a birthmark shaped like Liberty's torch. They fight crime! From jimshep at mindspring.com Mon Mar 22 14:33:28 2004 From: jimshep at mindspring.com (Jim Shepherd) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:33:28 -0500 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely - Solved - pango was problem In-Reply-To: <1079957374.5705.12.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> References: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405E3EA1.20503@insight.rr.com> <1079957374.5705.12.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> Message-ID: <1079966007.5705.17.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> I found that the /etc/pango/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/pango.modules file was missing. I ran the following command to re-create the file: pango-querymodules-32 >/etc/pango/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/pango.modules Now X starts fine and I can log on and get the gnome desktop up. Epiphany won't run now, but that's another problem... -Jim From jimshep at mindspring.com Mon Mar 22 14:35:47 2004 From: jimshep at mindspring.com (Jim Shepherd) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:35:47 -0500 Subject: x problem after updating to gtk2-2.4 In-Reply-To: <405E3F9D.4090503@web.de> References: <405E3F9D.4090503@web.de> Message-ID: <1079966147.5705.20.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> I had a somewhat similar problem with X not starting after the gtk update. In my case, the pango.modules file was missing. I re-created with the following command: pango-querymodules-32 >/etc/pango/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/pango.modules -Jim From mike at flyn.org Mon Mar 22 14:36:42 2004 From: mike at flyn.org (mike at flyn.org) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:36:42 -0500 Subject: Setting sound level on startup Message-ID: <20040322143642.D930031533@neuromancer.voxel.net> > > I think you are saying that sound level setting should be set for each > > user, not just globally in /etc/aumixrc but in ~/.aumixrc. Do you know > > exactly how this could/should be done? > I'd put it in the /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession script. Xsession is run as the > user so a 'aumix-minimal -L' would set the mixer for the particular user > as aumix looks for ~/.aumixrc first. However it should only be done if > the session is local. i.e. on the system console and not on an X > terminal accross the building. I'd like to see this done elsewhere if possible. We don't all use X each time we want to use our audio hardware. Perhaps pam_audio (I'm not sure if this is a tonge-in-cheek proposal or not)? -- Mike From alan at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 15:00:37 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:00:37 -0500 Subject: Fedora ftp site? In-Reply-To: <3602.12.29.16.103.1079961454.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <65137.65.41.50.216.1079905938.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <012301c40f8f$6d58c290$72b9fc80@rwa1> <20040321233557.GA24796@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040322055546.GX3998@inxservices.com> <3602.12.29.16.103.1079961454.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <20040322150037.GB1508@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:17:34AM -0500, William Hooper wrote: > > not just failover. It is bad files that up2date somehow doesn't notice are > > bad until AFTER it has failed to install them. > > Neither the MD5 check or the GPG check noticed the file was corrupt? Have > you filed a bug along with an attachement of the files? I had this happen with the 2.6 kernel a couple of times but not with 2.4 and also not with the 2.6.3-2xx kernel (so far anyway) Alan From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 22 15:27:52 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 22 Mar 2004 10:27:52 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <20040322000333.GA20786@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> <1079899837.578.7.camel@binkley> <20040322000333.GA20786@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1079969272.11508.11.camel@opus> > > > William Hooper wrote: > > > > Swamper said: > > > > > Then what is the point of this running daily? > > > > I wouldn't let a cron job update my system from a stable tree, let alone > > > Why then is yum installed to run daily in the default setup for > > > > the cron job is just for convenience. > > Imagine how convenient it would be if it didn't choke on any > little thing out of the ordinary. Imagine how untrusted it would be if it continued despite the potential for fairly serious breakage. > And if it fails to update multiple pending packages that will > update fine just because it detects that one of them might not > update properly then it failed to do what it was intended to do > and that is to try to keep the system updated. It fails to > succeed; Correct? actually it is intended to install packages and dependencies with correctness. updating is a neat side effect. :) > Do you want real help to solve a supposed problem or supposed > help to solve a real problem? If I'm the only one that sees > room for improvement with yum then don't worry, be happy. no, it's not that there is not room for improvement I'm just not sure how useful it is to spend a lot of time focusing on improving a situation that only happens to people using rawhide. At some level people using rawhide should know that the world will break and bring pain into their being. -sv From gxy3139 at njit.edu Mon Mar 22 16:02:31 2004 From: gxy3139 at njit.edu (Guo Yang) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:02:31 -0500 Subject: Kernel compilation error Message-ID: <405F0E17.4060307@njit.edu> Hello list members, I always get this error when I try to build a cumstomized Arjan's latest test kernel 2.6.4-1.279 during 'make bzImage' stage: LD .tmp_vmlinux1 lib/lib.a(string.o)(*ABS*+0x5152e605): In function `__crc_memcmp': string.c: multiple definition of `__crc_memcmp' make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 I am using Fedora Core 2 Test 1 and it has been upgraded to at least 3.19 rawhide (since then, I can not update anymore). And I was following Arjan's kernel until 2.6.4-1.275 and didn't have any problem. But since 2.6.4-1.278 I always get the above error message. Atttatched please find the .config file I am using. Thank you very much for your comment. Guo -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: .config URL: From gxy3139 at njit.edu Mon Mar 22 16:06:55 2004 From: gxy3139 at njit.edu (Guo Yang) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:06:55 -0500 Subject: yum update problem Message-ID: <405F0F1F.80408@njit.edu> I have updated to xorg-x11 several days ago, everything is fine after I added /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and reran ldconfig and restart xfs. The nvidia driver from nvidia also works fine. But since then I can not update the system using yum anymore due to the error message below: Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1 rawhide Server: Fedora Core 1( freshrpms ) Server: Mozilla SeaMonkey Releases Server: Fedora Core 1 ( xcyborg / bleeding ) Server: Fedora Core 1 ( xcyborg / stable ) Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers retrygrab() failed for: ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/headers/XFree86-Mesa-libGL-0-4.3.0-64.i386.hdr Executing failover method retrygrab() failed for: ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/XFree86-Mesa-libGL-0-4.3.0-64.i386.hdr Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/headers/XFree86-Mesa-libGL-0-4.3.0-64.i386.hdr [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 421 There are too many connected users, please try later. So how can I fix this problem? Thanks for comments. Guo From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 22 16:09:20 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 22 Mar 2004 11:09:20 -0500 Subject: yum update problem In-Reply-To: <405F0F1F.80408@njit.edu> References: <405F0F1F.80408@njit.edu> Message-ID: <1079971760.11508.18.camel@opus> > > ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/headers/XFree86-Mesa-libGL-0-4.3.0-64.i386.hdr > Executing failover method > retrygrab() failed for: > > ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/XFree86-Mesa-libGL-0-4.3.0-64.i386.hdr > Executing failover method > failover: out of servers to try > Error getting file > ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/headers/XFree86-Mesa-libGL-0-4.3.0-64.i386.hdr > [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 421 There are too many connected > users, please try later. > > So how can I fix this problem? Thanks for comments. > use mirrors that aren't completely saturated. read the error message: [Errno ftp error] 421 There are too many connected users, please try later. -sv From gene.smith at sea.siemens.com Mon Mar 22 16:11:53 2004 From: gene.smith at sea.siemens.com (geneSmith) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:11:53 -0500 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: Bart Kalita wrote: > jim tate wrote: > >> I'm having problem of updating the Kdebase , chkfontpath packages, >> they can't find 'xfs' , needed as a dependency. and I have XFree86-xfs >> installed. >> I have missgivings about upgrade to xorg-x11. >> In other words I'M SCARED. There you have the truth. >> >> Jim Tate >> >> > There is a short description of my xorg install process: > > [root at nemesis bart]# yum --exclude=xorg* --exclude=anaconda > --exclude=gdm --exclude=kdebase --exclude=kdebase-devel > --exclude=chkfontpath --exclude=XFree86* update It takes a while to compute on a slooow 500Mhz cpu but it finally worked. > > then, > > yum install xorg-x11* > > followed by , > > yum update > > after that you should put /usr/X11R6/lib back in /etc/ld.so.conf Put it back as the first line, ahead of a couple of qt libraries. What is the new file /etc/ld.so.conf.newrpm about? > > run restart -xfs <- or sometning to that extend sorry but I'm not > sure about this part. Someone recommended chkconfig --add xfs I also did /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart Is this what you mean by "run restart -xfs"? System locked up when I did the xfs restart. Had to hit reset. > > reboot During startup, see xfs trying to run but fails because shared library file does not exist. When I manually do xfs restart, I see it is complaining about library file(s) that do exist in /usr/X11R6/lib. Does something else need to be set for it to find the file(s)? Saw that someone recommended clearing /tmp files but have not yet tried that. Not currently physically at the system under test. > > and U should have xorg running. > > Worked for me . > Not yet for me. -gene From don.raikes at oracle.com Mon Mar 22 16:24:50 2004 From: don.raikes at oracle.com (donald raikes) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:24:50 -0700 Subject: yum upgrade problem with db4 Message-ID: <200403221624.i2MGOrW18504@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Hi, I have fc1 installed and am trying to perform a yum upgrade to fc2 (since there were problems with installing from the ISOs). I am using yum 2.0.6 and rpmdb-fedora-1.91-0.20040319. The command line is: yum -y --exclude=XFree86* --exclude=XORG* upgrade When all is said and done I get the message: Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Finding obsoleted packages Resolving dependencies ......Unable to satisfy dependencies Package db4-java needs db4 = 4.1.25-14, this is not available. From pbender at qualcomm.com Mon Mar 22 16:32:07 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:32:07 -0800 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <405F1507.8020701@qualcomm.com> geneSmith wrote: > What is the new file /etc/ld.so.conf.newrpm about? The latest glibc added support for the /etc/ld.so.conf.d directory. /etc/ld.so.conf.rpmnew contains the /etc/ld.so.conf file if you wish to use this directory. If you decide to use it, then I would suggest that you copy the one line from the rpmnew file to your existing ld.so.conf file. From pbender at qualcomm.com Mon Mar 22 16:34:09 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:34:09 -0800 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <405F1581.4040402@qualcomm.com> geneSmith wrote: > During startup, see xfs trying to run but fails because shared library > file does not exist. When I manually do xfs restart, I see it is > complaining about library file(s) that do exist in /usr/X11R6/lib. Does > something else need to be set for it to find the file(s)? It sounds like you did not run 'ldconfig' after adding '/usr/X11R6/lib' to your '/etc/ld.so.conf' file. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 22 16:36:38 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 22 Mar 2004 11:36:38 -0500 Subject: yum upgrade problem with db4 In-Reply-To: <200403221624.i2MGOrW18504@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> References: <200403221624.i2MGOrW18504@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Message-ID: <1079973398.11508.24.camel@opus> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 11:24, donald raikes wrote: > Hi, > > I have fc1 installed and am trying to perform a yum upgrade to fc2 (since there were problems with installing from the ISOs). > > I am using yum 2.0.6 and rpmdb-fedora-1.91-0.20040319. > > The command line is: > yum -y --exclude=XFree86* --exclude=XORG* upgrade > When all is said and done I get the message: > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Finding obsoleted packages > Resolving dependencies > ......Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package db4-java needs db4 = 4.1.25-14, this is not available. from a quick look it seems like db4-java was not included in fc2 and should probably be deleted/obsoleted. yum erase db4-java then re-run your upgrade command. -sv From linuxnow at newtral.org Mon Mar 22 16:36:55 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:36:55 +0100 (CET) Subject: xorg, ttmkfdir and difficulties to get x86_64 up and runnig Message-ID: I've had a hard time updating Xfree86 to xorg, mainly because the mirrors are not up to date in x86_64. None of them carries still the xorg for x86_64 rpms and I've had to recomplile the src.rpm. I have 12 mirrors in my yum.conf to no luck. I've had to rpm -Uvh manually, but still have a dependency on: XFree86-font-utils-0-4.3.0-64.x86_64 because when I try to do yum update I still get: Downloading needed headers getting /var/cache/yum/development-x86_84/headers/XFree86-font-utils-0-4.3.0-64.x86_64.hdr At last I've been able to satisfy all the dependencies, but there's still something failing: xfs does not start beacuse it segfaults running: ttmkfdir -d . -o fonts.scale in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF I've straced it to find that it crasehed when processign these files: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/iso8859-6.8x.enc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/iso8859-6.16.enc I've moved them apart and then xfs started without a glitch. Pau From davej at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 16:43:19 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:43:19 +0000 Subject: Kernel compilation error In-Reply-To: <405F0E17.4060307@njit.edu> References: <405F0E17.4060307@njit.edu> Message-ID: <1079973798.2890.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 16:02, Guo Yang wrote: > Hello list members, > > I always get this error when I try to build a cumstomized Arjan's latest > test kernel 2.6.4-1.279 during 'make bzImage' stage: > > LD .tmp_vmlinux1 > lib/lib.a(string.o)(*ABS*+0x5152e605): In function `__crc_memcmp': > string.c: multiple definition of `__crc_memcmp' > make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 > > I am using Fedora Core 2 Test 1 and it has been upgraded to at least > 3.19 rawhide (since then, I can not update anymore). And I was following > Arjan's kernel until 2.6.4-1.275 and didn't have any problem. But since > 2.6.4-1.278 I always get the above error message. > > Atttatched please find the .config file I am using. Thank you very much > for your comment. "if its not in bugzilla, it doesn't exist". Dave From gene.smith at sea.siemens.com Mon Mar 22 16:53:38 2004 From: gene.smith at sea.siemens.com (geneSmith) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:53:38 -0500 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: <405EC788.9020608@clara.co.uk> References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> <405EC788.9020608@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: Bart Kalita wrote: > Gene Smith wrote: >> Is it normal for yum to get very quite (80-90% cpu and very little >> disk activity) for a long time after all the header and packages are >> downloaded and after printing "Test transaction complete, Success!"? I >> killed it and started over thinking maybe it was hung but is is still >> being very slow at this point the 2nd time. >> >> >> > Depending on the amount of the updated files it might take a fair amount > of time. Yum did finally finish whatever it does after "Test transaction complelete, Success!". But after (or while) installing the 1st of 312 package, libgcc (gcclib?), it really seemed hung, so I killed it again. It had earlier complained about needing "pyparted" which it had obtained. I tried to manually install pyparted with rpm but rpm hung and after that I could not get any rpm function to work again without reboot. After reboot was able to manually upgrade rpm, python, yum, pyparted and possibly others using rpm -Uhv. The next time I ran yum it installed all 312 packages ok and did not hang on/after libgcc. Not sure what my problem was or if manually installing these packages before re-running yum had an effect. Or possibly it was not really hung during gcclib but I just needed to give it more time. (The last time I ran yum, I gave it a option to print status messages at max level 10. However, during periods of intense cpu activity and zero disk, it provided no additional info on what it was doing.) From michal at harddata.com Mon Mar 22 16:57:53 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:57:53 -0700 Subject: gimp from March 18th In-Reply-To: <1079957913.6227.3.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de>; from nphilipp@redhat.com on Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:18:33PM +0100 References: <20040321211931.A7242@mail.harddata.com> <1079957913.6227.3.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> Message-ID: <20040322095753.A19789@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:18:33PM +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 05:19, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > > I checked with rsync a few different locations and all they seem > > to have the same files so the problem is likely at the origin. > > No so quick ;-). Please check the MD5 sums of the files you have against > these: > > 7cb1e0a441fd0a05c2048b1ea62d9925 gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm > c4a5987ed46ab63a472d83fe34644561 gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm 9857802742fcfae911ddad2c33871556 gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm fb97201050b281d19410170066a18220 gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm 'rsync' does not report any differences with at least four different mirrors in North America. Just rechecked in case something changed. I would have run 'rpm -K ...' if not that small detail that headers are non-readable. These md5sums differ also from those for files with the same names but with 'Mar 4 22:01' time-stamp and where rpm does not have isssues. For these md5sum shows c2ede0cd09db1cd2cd083aef76fe90d9 gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm b4f5e335cb4f6e674bf877902b66445a gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm > These are the same in our build system as well as on the > ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de mirror. This mirror does not seem seem to provide rsync on development branch so I do not know what rsync would tell there but from md5sums files are clearly different. Michal From lewt at warcry.com Mon Mar 22 16:59:46 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:59:46 -0600 Subject: Token Ring not Compiling in the test core from 2.6 kernel In-Reply-To: <20040322090349.GC3914@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040322090349.GC3914@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <405F1B82.6060704@warcry.com> Alan Cox wrote: >On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:18:42AM +0100, Marc Heckmann wrote: > > >>Hi all, >> >>I have see that the Token Ring network module are not compiled >>in the 2.6 kernel config files, please notes that there exist allready >>people or company with this network interface, thank's. >> >> > >Make sure you stick things like this in bugzilla. Even better - if you can >test the stuff add a note about what h/w you can test 8) > > > > Dont make this public.. Cisco might want to force us to relearn it LOL! From gene.smith at sea.siemens.com Mon Mar 22 17:12:33 2004 From: gene.smith at sea.siemens.com (geneSmith) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:12:33 -0500 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: <405F1581.4040402@qualcomm.com> References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> <405F1581.4040402@qualcomm.com> Message-ID: Paul Bender wrote: > It sounds like you did not run 'ldconfig' after adding '/usr/X11R6/lib' > to your '/etc/ld.so.conf' file. Uh, no I didn't... Thanks! And thanks for the info on the rpmnew thing. -gene From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Mar 22 17:13:55 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:13:55 +0100 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: <405F1581.4040402@qualcomm.com> References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> <405F1581.4040402@qualcomm.com> Message-ID: <1079975634.4756.8.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Paul, > It sounds like you did not run 'ldconfig' after adding '/usr/X11R6/lib' > to your '/etc/ld.so.conf' file. I always thought ldconfig runs at boot to include all library directories, but I see that on FC 1 it only includes /lib/ (ldconfig -n /lib/). Why are not all directories included? Too slow? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From gxy3139 at njit.edu Mon Mar 22 17:23:47 2004 From: gxy3139 at njit.edu (Guo Yang) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:23:47 -0500 Subject: yum update problem In-Reply-To: <1079971760.11508.18.camel@opus> References: <405F0F1F.80408@njit.edu> <1079971760.11508.18.camel@opus> Message-ID: <405F2123.3000404@njit.edu> seth vidal wrote: >> >>ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/headers/XFree86-Mesa-libGL-0-4.3.0-64.i386.hdr >> Executing failover method >>retrygrab() failed for: >> >>ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/XFree86-Mesa-libGL-0-4.3.0-64.i386.hdr >> Executing failover method >>failover: out of servers to try >>Error getting file >>ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/headers/XFree86-Mesa-libGL-0-4.3.0-64.i386.hdr >>[Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 421 There are too many connected >>users, please try later. >> >>So how can I fix this problem? Thanks for comments. >> >> >> > >use mirrors that aren't completely saturated. > >read the error message: >[Errno ftp error] 421 There are too many connected users, please try >later. > > >-sv > > > > > > Thanks, seth. What I don't understand is why I still need XFree86* headers after I upgraded to xorg-x11. BTW, can you recommend a good mirror site? I tried the one in Duke but it is not up to date I think. Thanks alot :) Guo From reader at newsguy.com Mon Mar 22 17:33:37 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:33:37 -0600 Subject: Kernel compilation error In-Reply-To: <405F0E17.4060307@njit.edu> (Guo Yang's message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:02:31 -0500") References: <405F0E17.4060307@njit.edu> Message-ID: Guo Yang writes: > I always get this error when I try to build a cumstomized Arjan's > latest test kernel 2.6.4-1.279 during 'make bzImage' stage: > > LD .tmp_vmlinux1 > lib/lib.a(string.o)(*ABS*+0x5152e605): In function `__crc_memcmp': > string.c: multiple definition of `__crc_memcmp' > make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 Aside: I'm not really buying Dave's position regards bugzilla... I've found too many times things are more related to my usage or setup and would only clutter up Bugzilla. Any way if bugzilla is the answer to everthing we could just as well disband this list. I had similar results... although a different error. Similar but not the same. Finally I couldn't even get a build to run at all with: 2.6.4-1.278 (I haven't tried the 279 you referenced) I suspect some fundamental problem with the rpms kernel-source Not being much of a kernel builder, I chickened out and reverted to linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 (Latest in rawhide) But all I really wanted was to enable smbfs and try the NTFS experimental stuff. However, in going thru config I went ahead and took out quite a lot of other stuff too. It built without a hitch... if you don't need something in 2.6.4 maybe try what I did. From gxy3139 at njit.edu Mon Mar 22 17:30:58 2004 From: gxy3139 at njit.edu (Guo Yang) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:30:58 -0500 Subject: Kernel compilation error In-Reply-To: <1079973798.2890.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <405F0E17.4060307@njit.edu> <1079973798.2890.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <405F22D2.3040908@njit.edu> Dave Jones wrote: >On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 16:02, Guo Yang wrote: > > >>Hello list members, >> >>I always get this error when I try to build a cumstomized Arjan's latest >>test kernel 2.6.4-1.279 during 'make bzImage' stage: >> >> LD .tmp_vmlinux1 >>lib/lib.a(string.o)(*ABS*+0x5152e605): In function `__crc_memcmp': >>string.c: multiple definition of `__crc_memcmp' >>make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 >> >>I am using Fedora Core 2 Test 1 and it has been upgraded to at least >>3.19 rawhide (since then, I can not update anymore). And I was following >>Arjan's kernel until 2.6.4-1.275 and didn't have any problem. But since >>2.6.4-1.278 I always get the above error message. >> >> Atttatched please find the .config file I am using. Thank you very much >>for your comment. >> >> > >"if its not in bugzilla, it doesn't exist". > > Dave > > > Summited it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118905 Guo From michal at harddata.com Mon Mar 22 17:39:05 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:39:05 -0700 Subject: gimp from March 18th In-Reply-To: <20040322095753.A19789@mail.harddata.com>; from michal@harddata.com on Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:57:53AM -0700 References: <20040321211931.A7242@mail.harddata.com> <1079957913.6227.3.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> <20040322095753.A19789@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040322103905.B19789@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:57:53AM -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:18:33PM +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > > No so quick ;-). Please check the MD5 sums of the files you have against > > these: > > > > 7cb1e0a441fd0a05c2048b1ea62d9925 gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm > > c4a5987ed46ab63a472d83fe34644561 gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm > > 9857802742fcfae911ddad2c33871556 gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm > fb97201050b281d19410170066a18220 gimp-devel-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm > > 'rsync' does not report any differences with at least four different > mirrors in North America. Hm, apparently rsync is not that reliable (rsync-2.5.7-0.7 in this case). After getting via ftp files with checksums 7cb1e0a441fd0a05c2048b1ea62d9925 and c4a5987ed46ab63a472d83fe34644561 I still do not see "anything to replace" as before. Something possibly was corrupted on the original fetch even if reported sizes and timestamps agree. Sorry for the noise. Michal From michal at harddata.com Mon Mar 22 18:05:36 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:05:36 -0700 Subject: GIMP dies In-Reply-To: <1079958512.6227.6.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de>; from nphilipp@redhat.com on Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:28:32PM +0100 References: <1079905205.31431.4.camel@T7.linux> <1079958512.6227.6.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> Message-ID: <20040322110536.C19789@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:28:32PM +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > Have you tried moving away .gimp-1.3 > and starting it again? gimp-2.0pre is still using ~/.gimp-1.3/ directory. As designed or this is a bug? Michal From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Mon Mar 22 18:10:18 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:10:18 +0100 Subject: Core 2 test 1 iso's for AMD 64? Message-ID: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> If I remember correctly, someone made unofficially a set of iso's of core 2 test 1 available, compiled for AMD 64. Unfortunately I can't find the message. Can someone give me a link? Thanks Peter From sehh at altered.com Mon Mar 22 18:21:27 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:21:27 +0000 Subject: yum install xorg dependency problem Message-ID: <20040322182127.32f75049@ekolaptis.> I've tried to update to xorg with (running FC2 test1): yum install xorg-x11* but i get the following dependency error: conflict between ttmkfdir and XFree86-font-utils i erased XFree86-font-utils package from my system but the error persists (maybe yum tries to re-install it again?) any help would be appriciated. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 22 18:24:15 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 22 Mar 2004 13:24:15 -0500 Subject: yum update problem In-Reply-To: <405F2123.3000404@njit.edu> References: <405F0F1F.80408@njit.edu> <1079971760.11508.18.camel@opus> <405F2123.3000404@njit.edu> Message-ID: <1079979855.11508.37.camel@opus> > > > Thanks, seth. What I don't understand is why I still need XFree86* > headers after I upgraded to xorg-x11. B/c it's still listed in the repository. Yum will want to know what's out there. So it needs that header. > BTW, can you recommend a good > mirror site? I tried the one in Duke but it is not up to date I think. > Thanks alot :) Check out the mirrors list and read the messages to this list over the last few days, the mirrors are swamped. -sv From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 22 18:25:13 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:25:13 -0500 Subject: Core 2 test 1 iso's for AMD 64? In-Reply-To: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> References: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <200403221325.13674.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 22 March 2004 13:10, Peter Boy wrote: > If I remember correctly, someone made unofficially a set of iso's of > core 2 test 1 available, compiled for AMD 64. Unfortunately I can't find > the message. Can someone give me a link? I believe this was originally planned but was cancelled since Test2 (which would have x86_64 iso's from the start) was to happen "real soon". Unfortunately "real soon" slipped. Even more unfortunate is that I cannot find a mirror which has all of the needed x86_64 files in the development tree so I cannot even try that. Oh well, only 7 more days until Test2 ... I hope. -- Gene From sculler01 at ehlers.plus.com Mon Mar 22 19:27:08 2004 From: sculler01 at ehlers.plus.com (sculler01) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:27:08 +0000 Subject: FC2 installation fails installing XFree86 Message-ID: <1079983627.2141.3.camel@eowyn> hello when i try to install FC2 test1 the installation fails with the following error message: ?there was an error installing xfree86-4.3.0-45.0.1. this can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. this is a fatal error and your install will be aborted. please verify your media and try your install again.? i'm trying to install to a 10GB partition, i've successfully installed RH9 and then FC1 to this partition. i've attempted to install FC2 in many different ways, including: - overwriting the existing FC1 installation with FC2 - removing the partition with MS fdisk and installing FC2 to the 10GB of raw disk space - doing a fresh install of RH9 or FC1 to the partition, then upgrading to FC2 every time the FC2 installation fails with the message above. i've tried re-downloading the ISOs and burning fresh CDs, i've run the media test and the disks pass. any idea what i'm doing wrong or what else i can try? all suggestions gratefully received. best regards eric From bartk at clara.co.uk Mon Mar 22 19:39:28 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:39:28 +0000 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <405F40F0.5020504@clara.co.uk> geneSmith wrote: > Bart Kalita wrote: > >> jim tate wrote: >> >>> I'm having problem of updating the Kdebase , chkfontpath packages, >>> they can't find 'xfs' , needed as a dependency. and I have >>> XFree86-xfs installed. >>> I have missgivings about upgrade to xorg-x11. >>> In other words I'M SCARED. There you have the truth. >>> >>> Jim Tate >>> >>> >> There is a short description of my xorg install process: >> >> [root at nemesis bart]# yum --exclude=xorg* --exclude=anaconda >> --exclude=gdm --exclude=kdebase --exclude=kdebase-devel >> --exclude=chkfontpath --exclude=XFree86* update > > > It takes a while to compute on a slooow 500Mhz cpu but it finally worked. > >> >> then, >> >> yum install xorg-x11* >> >> followed by , >> >> yum update >> >> after that you should put /usr/X11R6/lib back in /etc/ld.so.conf > > > Put it back as the first line, ahead of a couple of qt libraries. > What is the new file /etc/ld.so.conf.newrpm about? /usr/X11R6/lib is a 3rd line for me, I basicaly put it back where it was before an update regarding *.newrpm I do not know, seen a post about that today thats all. > > >> >> run restart -xfs <- or sometning to that extend sorry but I'm >> not sure about this part. > > > Someone recommended chkconfig --add xfs > I also did /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart > Is this what you mean by "run restart -xfs"? > System locked up when I did the xfs restart. Had to hit reset. chkconfig --add xfs is what I did , sorry I didn't remeber the correct command at the time > > >> >> reboot > > > During startup, see xfs trying to run but fails because shared library > file does not exist. When I manually do xfs restart, I see it is > complaining about library file(s) that do exist in /usr/X11R6/lib. > Does something else need to be set for it to find the file(s)? > > Saw that someone recommended clearing /tmp files but have not yet > tried that. Not currently physically at the system under test. I did not clear any files ,. Simply rebooted and it all worked fine for me . > > >> >> and U should have xorg running. >> >> Worked for me . >> > Not yet for me. > -gene > -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From nphilipp at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 20:15:22 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:15:22 +0100 Subject: GIMP dies In-Reply-To: <20040322110536.C19789@mail.harddata.com> References: <1079905205.31431.4.camel@T7.linux> <1079958512.6227.6.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> <20040322110536.C19789@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1079986521.24792.28.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 19:05, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:28:32PM +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > Have you tried moving away .gimp-1.3 > > and starting it again? > > gimp-2.0pre is still using ~/.gimp-1.3/ directory. As designed > or this is a bug? Bug as designed ;-). Until gimp is final, some gimp-1.3isms will likely stay... Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pau From balay at fastmail.fm Mon Mar 22 20:24:14 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:24:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: yum install xorg dependency problem In-Reply-To: References: <20040322182127.32f75049@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Pau Aliagas wrote: > On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Dimitrios wrote: > > > I've tried to update to xorg with (running FC2 test1): > > > > yum install xorg-x11* > > > > but i get the following dependency error: > > > > conflict between ttmkfdir and XFree86-font-utils > > > > i erased XFree86-font-utils package from my system > > but the error persists (maybe yum tries to re-install it again?) > > > > any help would be appriciated. > > The mirror is outdated and has an old header,info. > Download the rpms and install them directly or be patient and wait for > them to sync up. or just do 'yum upgrade' with the updated mirror - I've used: baseurl=ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/i386 Satish From swamper at adelphia.net Mon Mar 22 20:42:13 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:42:13 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079969272.11508.11.camel@opus> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> <1079899837.578.7.camel@binkley> <20040322000333.GA20786@localhost.localdomain> <1079969272.11508.11.camel@opus> Message-ID: <20040322204213.GA3591@localhost.localdomain> seth vidal wrote: > no, it's not that there is not room for improvement I'm just not sure > how useful it is to spend a lot of time focusing on improving a > situation that only happens to people using rawhide. At some level > people using rawhide should know that the world will break and bring > pain into their being. I'm assuming that yum is here to stay as part of Fedora and it will evolve into something that takes the best features from up2date and apt and will be what most people see when we move into another level of development. The way I look at it, this stuff will always be in development. When they say it isn't it will be time to move on to something else. To say improving such an important part of this system because the world will be a safer place one day might not be the best way to look at this. I'm using Fedora because I believe this is where the action is and this is where we will find the latest and greatest new toys. I can live with the fact that everything isn't going to work perfect all the time. The alternative is to run outdated and stagnant software. I guess my point is it would be nice if yum was more of a hunting dog and not so much a house pet. No offense intented but I hope you known what I'm getting at. The yellow dog I'm thinking of doesn't eat puppy chow. That awesome creature will turn your house into a battle zone but is truly your best friend out in that great wide open where the future is wide open. -- A rebel without a clue From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Mon Mar 22 20:48:23 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:48:23 -0600 Subject: Core 2 test 1 iso's for AMD 64? In-Reply-To: <200403221325.13674.czar@czarc.net> References: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> <200403221325.13674.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040322204823.GE1389@comcast.net> On Monday 22 March 2004 13:10, Peter Boy wrote: > If I remember correctly, someone made unofficially a set of iso's of > core 2 test 1 available, compiled for AMD 64. Unfortunately I can't find > the message. Can someone give me a link? > I decided against providing the test1 ISOs mainly so that I could spend a bit more time focusing on other things. Test 2 should have x86_64 ISOs. The devel tree has been installable for quite some time, though it has been difficult in the past couple of weeks to find a complete mirror. As of this weekend, it seems the relevant i?86 packages have been added to the x86_64 tree as well. Justin From sehh at altered.com Mon Mar 22 20:50:43 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:50:43 +0000 Subject: yum install xorg dependency problem In-Reply-To: References: <20040322182127.32f75049@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: <20040322205043.3d42d15d@ekolaptis.> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:24:14 -0600 (CST) "Satish Balay" wrote: > or just do 'yum upgrade' with the updated mirror - > I've used: > > baseurl=ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/i386 thanks, i'll do that! From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Mon Mar 22 20:55:11 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:55:11 -0600 Subject: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D4@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Hello, I'm trying to make a custom install CD but I can't find the bootdisk.img file for Fedora Core 2 Test 1. Could someone point me to it or tell me how to extract it from the .iso image. Thanks -Scott From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Mon Mar 22 20:55:11 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:55:11 +0000 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> <405EC788.9020608@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <1079988911.405f52af63ae4@helium.firebox.com> Quoting geneSmith : > Bart Kalita wrote: > > > Gene Smith wrote: > >> Is it normal for yum to get very quite (80-90% cpu and very little > >> disk activity) for a long time after all the header and packages are > >> downloaded and after printing "Test transaction complete, Success!"? I > >> killed it and started over thinking maybe it was hung but is is still > >> being very slow at this point the 2nd time. > >> > >> > >> > > Depending on the amount of the updated files it might take a fair amount > > of time. > > Yum did finally finish whatever it does after "Test transaction > complelete, Success!". But after (or while) installing the 1st of 312 > package, libgcc (gcclib?), it really seemed hung, so I killed it again. > It had earlier complained about needing "pyparted" which it had > obtained. I tried to manually install pyparted with rpm but rpm hung and > after that I could not get any rpm function to work again without > reboot. After reboot was able to manually upgrade rpm, python, yum, > pyparted and possibly others using rpm -Uhv. The next time I ran yum it > installed all 312 packages ok and did not hang on/after libgcc. Not sure > what my problem was or if manually installing these packages before > re-running yum had an effect. Or possibly it was not really hung during > gcclib but I just needed to give it more time. (The last time I ran yum, > I gave it a option to print status messages at max level 10. However, > during periods of intense cpu activity and zero disk, it provided no > additional info on what it was doing.) There is a bug in redhat, that was quite sevear in Redhat 8 and 9, but seems to have become fair less common in FC, but still present. The symptoms. RPM process would freez, CTRL + C would have no effect. kill -9 would tend to kill the process. On future runs, RPM would stall/fail untill a reboot. As YUM relies on the RPM infrastructure, I have noticed once or twice it seems to suffer from a similar problem, however I may be wrong. To get around this without rebooting (handy on servers). kill -9 , then rm /var/lib/rpm/__*.db (some thing along these lines), rpm --rebuilddb Then RPM seems to run again. I think this would have probably solved your problems. Doug From jlb17 at duke.edu Mon Mar 22 20:59:31 2004 From: jlb17 at duke.edu (Joshua Baker-LePain) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:59:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D4@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D4@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 at 2:55pm, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote > I'm trying to make a custom install CD but I can't find the bootdisk.img > file for Fedora Core 2 Test 1. Could someone point me to it or tell me how > to extract it from the .iso image. As has been discussed on the list many times, there is no bootdisk.img for FC2T1 -- the kernel is too big. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University From netopml at newview.com Mon Mar 22 21:02:48 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 22 Mar 2004 16:02:48 -0500 Subject: gimp from March 18th In-Reply-To: <20040322103905.B19789@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040321211931.A7242@mail.harddata.com> <20040322103905.B19789@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) writes: > Hm, apparently rsync is not that reliable (rsync-2.5.7-0.7 in this > case). After getting via ftp files with checksums > 7cb1e0a441fd0a05c2048b1ea62d9925 and c4a5987ed46ab63a472d83fe34644561 > I still do not see "anything to replace" as before. Something > possibly was corrupted on the original fetch even if reported sizes > and timestamps agree. You could have used the checksum option of rsync. -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From ckloiber at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 21:29:13 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 05:29:13 +0800 Subject: Setting sound level on startup In-Reply-To: <20040322143642.D930031533@neuromancer.voxel.net> References: <20040322143642.D930031533@neuromancer.voxel.net> Message-ID: <1079990952.2421.11.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 22:36, mike at flyn.org wrote: > > > I think you are saying that sound level setting should be set for each > > > user, not just globally in /etc/aumixrc but in ~/.aumixrc. Do you know > > > exactly how this could/should be done? > > > I'd put it in the /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession script. Xsession is run as the > > user so a 'aumix-minimal -L' would set the mixer for the particular user > > as aumix looks for ~/.aumixrc first. However it should only be done if > > the session is local. i.e. on the system console and not on an X > > terminal accross the building. > > I'd like to see this done elsewhere if possible. We don't all use X each > time we want to use our audio hardware. Perhaps pam_audio (I'm not sure if > this is a tonge-in-cheek proposal or not)? alsamixer runs on the command line, but I agree it should not need to be run to unmute and increase the volume. Sane defaults should be set (maybe 40%) during firstboot, then let the customer adjust it. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Mon Mar 22 21:31:25 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:31:25 -0600 Subject: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D5@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> I'm sorry I did not see it on the list, it was before I had subscribed. I had just assumed that it wasn't included because it was a Test version and a Google search hadn't turned up anything that looked relevant. I have gone back and read all of the ones I could find in the February archives and they all seemed to be concerned with not being able to boot from floppy. Since I am trying to create a CD there must be a way to make one (since the FC2T1 install CDs are bootable). Is there an explanation somewhere of how to create a bootable install CD without the bootdisk.img or how to create a (too big for floppy) bootdisk.img? Thanks -Scott -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Joshua Baker-LePain Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:00 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 at 2:55pm, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote > I'm trying to make a custom install CD but I can't find the bootdisk.img > file for Fedora Core 2 Test 1. Could someone point me to it or tell me how > to extract it from the .iso image. As has been discussed on the list many times, there is no bootdisk.img for FC2T1 -- the kernel is too big. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From jlb17 at duke.edu Mon Mar 22 21:35:45 2004 From: jlb17 at duke.edu (Joshua Baker-LePain) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:35:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D5@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D5@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 at 3:31pm, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote > I have gone back and read all of the ones I could find in the February > archives and they all seemed to be concerned with not being able to boot > from floppy. Since I am trying to create a CD there must be a way to > make one (since the FC2T1 install CDs are bootable). Is there an > explanation somewhere of how to create a bootable install CD without the > bootdisk.img or how to create a (too big for floppy) bootdisk.img? What you're looking for then is boot.iso. Booting is accomplished via isolinux. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Mar 22 21:38:52 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:38:52 +0000 Subject: GIMP dies In-Reply-To: <1079958512.6227.6.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> References: <1079905205.31431.4.camel@T7.linux> <1079958512.6227.6.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> Message-ID: <1079991532.1810.1.camel@T6.linux> Hi, > > It loads mostly up, but then dies after looking for the fonts. Any ideas > > on this? I've installed xorg-x11, restarted xfs (basically, followed > > everyones instructions), but no go on the gimp. > > It works here on my newly installed (Rawhide/FC2 test) laptop. Have you > installed _all_ available updates? Have you tried moving away .gimp-1.3 > and starting it again? Moving .gimp-1.3 made no difference. It segfaults with a glib error. As soon as the machine is working properly, I'll be able to post something to bugzilla. TTFN Paul -- One OS to fool them all One browser to find them One email client to bring them all And through security holes, blind them... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But when I try to boot it I get an error >>like this: >> VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or unknown-block(0,0) >> Please append a correct "root=" boot option >> Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) >>But the boot options are exactly the same as for every other kernel version; >>so I must have turned off something critical, I'm just not sure what. My >>root partition is on hda4, and it is ext3. Also, ever since I tried booting >>my custom kernel that first time, rhgb doesn't start for any kernel I boot, >>even though it is in all of the boot parameters. any thoughts? >> >> > >That message is seen when a kernel is built with in initrd is made which >does not include the jbd module. Did you include jbd support as modular >or builtin? One way to handle this is make ext2, ext3, and jbd as >builtin. I personally disagree with RedHat on this issue so I go the >other route. I change all of my fstab entries to use device names >(/dev/hda1) rather than symbolic names like LABEL=/. > > > As it turns out, I had all of those built in and still saw the error. I may change my fstab entries, but I'd like to figure out what actually caused the problem. So I'm going to start over with the config file from the stock 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 kernel and try to slowly turn things off until I figure out just where it went wrong. If anyone else has any thoughts that might speed this process up for me, I'd be greatly appreciative to hear them. Thanks, Richard Ayer III From mharris at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 21:49:35 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:49:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Someone Explain: Whats going on X.org/XFree In-Reply-To: <405C8526.3010607@cec.wustl.edu> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2CB@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> <405A7B5A.1080608@xmission.com> <001701c40d74$cd1f1430$72b9fc80@rwa1> <20040319063656.GC3446@ip68-4-255-84.oc.oc.cox.net> <405C8526.3010607@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Richard Ayer III wrote: >That's what I had to do, though I used sudo yum install xorg-x11* to >upgrade. Everything looks great except for one thing (kinda unrelated), >what exactly do I put where in XF86Config to turn on 3D acceleration? I >have Load dri in the Module scetion, and a DRI section setting Group 0 >and Mode 0666. I have and ATI AIW 9800 Pro, and I set ChipID 0x4e46 in >the device section so it thinks I have a 9700 and I can use the provided >radeon driver; anyone know if my card is actually supported in the new >xorg-x11? There is no open source driver 3D acceleration support for Radeon 9500/9600/9700/9800 variants. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 21:53:13 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:53:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: agpgart and direct rendering and such in xorg-x11 In-Reply-To: <405D2423.6000007@xmission.com> References: <405D2423.6000007@xmission.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, RaXeT wrote: >When will direct rendering be supported in xorg-x11? Or is it solely the >responsibility of ATI or nVidia to promote their own drivers? Direct Rendering Infrastructure (DRI) is supported in xorg-x11 right now. Xorg X11 includes the XFree86 4.4.0RC2 sources up to the XFree86 license change, and also includes changes that have occured in the XFree86 source tree since the license change that are not affected by the license (ie: code under a non-XFree86 license). If a card is supported by DRI in XFree86, then it is supported by DRI in Xorg X11 also. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Mar 22 21:56:41 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:56:41 +0000 Subject: selinux Message-ID: <1079992601.1810.16.camel@T6.linux> Hi, After the upgrade at the weekend, we had a power outage this morning. The machine booted up fine, but unless I (or any other user of the machine) use KDE or XFec (I think it's called), then we cannot login to gnome. I constantly get /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /user/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "paul" /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession: line 25: [: missing `]' (this is with selinux=0 set in the grub boot line). If I remove the selinux=0 line from the grub boot line, besides the pile of stuff due to not having renamed the drives, I still get a similar error Any ideas what is going on here? How do I rename the drives? There is nothing in the /selinux directory. TTFN Paul -- One OS to fool them all One browser to find them One email client to bring them all And through security holes, blind them... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mharris at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 22:06:17 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:06:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <405CC7AE.5040605@gmx.de> <20040320224329.GC961396@hiwaay.net> <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> > Really, is there a reason in this day that ld.so doesn't automatically >> > search /usr/X11R6/lib? /lib, /usr/lib, and /usr/local/lib are already >> > automatically searched (without being in /etc/ld.so.conf); how about >> > just patching ld.so to search /usr/X11R6/lib? >> >> What if you wanted to run X11R7? > >would it be feasible to just add a symlink, and use a generic name like >"/usr/X11/lib"? surely that wouldn't cause a great deal of confusion, >would it? at the moment, there's no directory named /usr/X11. As per the File Heirarchy Standard version 2.3 (and previous versions), the /usr/X11/lib is strictly a legacy compatibility thing for compatibility with other UNIX environments. Applications should not directly use this directory nor install stuff in /usr/X11/lib. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRX11R6XWINDOWSYSTEMVERSION11REL The FHS reserves /usr/X11R6 for use by the X Window System version 11 release 6, however it does not mandate that X11R6 *MUST* exist in that heirarchy. It only states: "To simplify matters and make XFree86 more compatible with the X Window System on other systems, the following symbolic links must be present if /usr/X11R6 exists: /usr/bin/X11 -> /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/lib/X11 -> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 /usr/include/X11 -> /usr/X11R6/include/X11 " Another thing is that software that is NOT part of X11R6, should not ever install files into /usr/X11R6, although a lot of software violates this. The FHS reserves this hierarchy for the X Window System itself, and not for random software to use. ;o) If anyone knows of software that is not part of X directly, that is using /usr/X11R6 to store files, please file bug reports and CC me. As an additional note, in the future, parts of the X Window System are likely to migrate directly into the /usr hierarchy as the purpose the X11R6 heirarchy once held is not really meaningful anymore, at least not on Linux systems, and the FHS does not specify that if X11R6 is installed that it must exist in /usr/X11R6. Whenever the transition occurs, there will be some level of effort to try to ensure compatibility on as many levels as possible to ease the transition. This probably wont be until Fedora Core 3 or 4 though. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Mar 22 22:07:43 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 22:07:43 +0000 Subject: Profiles Message-ID: <1079993263.1810.20.camel@T6.linux> Hi, Is there a guide anywhere to what one should enter when setting up a selinux policy? I'm guessing user = (say) paul and group would be (say) paul. TTFN Paul -- One OS to fool them all One browser to find them One email client to bring them all And through security holes, blind them... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mharris at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 22:11:53 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:11:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: xorg and xine In-Reply-To: <64916.65.41.50.216.1079884984.squirrel@65.41.50.216> References: <405D9E64.4050509@clara.co.uk> <1079878595.28852.12.camel@T7.linux> <405DAC8E.3090200@clara.co.uk> <65396.65.41.50.216.1079881815.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405DB374.2070604@qualcomm.com> <405DB930.5010300@clara.co.uk> <64916.65.41.50.216.1079884984.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, William Hooper wrote: >>> I have had no problem installing xine from Livna >>> . If you need xine, you might give that a try. >>> >>> >> same problem, "xine-lib needs XFree86" >> >> is forcing it a sencible option?? > >It might work, but I don't consider forcing packages "sensible" :-) > >> or can anybody point me in the direction of some "for thick peeps" >> manual to rebuilding source rpms? > >Well, just a straight rebuild won't help because the spec file hard-codes >a dependency on XFree86. > >http://freshrpms.net/packages/builds/xine-lib/xine-lib.spec Yeah, I'm not sure why the freshrpms xine packager has put a hard coded dependancy on XFree86 in the packaging, as it seems like a wrong/broken dependancy to me. If part of the package really does require that a specific binary be present that used to be present in the XFree86 package, then it should have a: Requires: /usr/X11R6/bin/someapp That would make it X11 implementation agnostic. In the mean time, I would recommend people either: 1) Download the xine src.rpm, edit the spec file and remove the bogus dependancy on XFree86, then rebuild it and upgrade to it. or 2) Try xine binaries from another repository as others have suggested, that don't have the XFree86 dep problem. Hope this helps. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 22:13:28 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:13:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: <200403210940.15740.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <200403210940.15740.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Jesse Keating wrote: >> would it be feasible to just add a symlink, and use a generic name like >> "/usr/X11/lib"? surely that wouldn't cause a great deal of confusion, >> would it? at the moment, there's no directory named /usr/X11. > >Does ld.conf break if the directory isn't there? Think about systems that >don't have X, no /usr/X11. In fact, the whole idea of splitting >everything out into /usr/X11Whatever is unclean. IMHO it should all be in >/usr/lib with the rest of the system libraries. Indeed, and many others feel this way upstream also. There will likely be a transition from using /usr/X11R6 to just using /usr in the next year or so from upstream. Some things are already using it. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Mon Mar 22 22:14:20 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:14:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Where is XFS In-Reply-To: <405DEB0A.5040303@comcast.net> References: <405DEB0A.5040303@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, jim tate wrote: >Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:20:42 -0500 >From: jim tate >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >X-BeenThere: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Subject: Where is XFS > >Trying upgrade kdebase but it can't find dependency 'xfs'. >I did a rpm-q xfs and no xfs installed, where do I find it. The virtual provide "xfs" is provided by the package xorg-x11-xfs. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From linuxnow at newtral.org Mon Mar 22 22:31:04 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 23:31:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: agpgart and direct rendering and such in xorg-x11 In-Reply-To: References: <405D2423.6000007@xmission.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, RaXeT wrote: > > >When will direct rendering be supported in xorg-x11? Or is it solely the > >responsibility of ATI or nVidia to promote their own drivers? > > Direct Rendering Infrastructure (DRI) is supported in xorg-x11 > right now. Xorg X11 includes the XFree86 4.4.0RC2 sources up to > the XFree86 license change, and also includes changes that have > occured in the XFree86 source tree since the license change that > are not affected by the license (ie: code under a non-XFree86 > license). > > If a card is supported by DRI in XFree86, then it is supported by > DRI in Xorg X11 also. I have successfully run the xorg packages in a x86_64 laptop with an ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 M10. I had to install XFree86-4.4.0 but now it is not necessary anymore. Good work! Pau From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Mon Mar 22 22:34:59 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:34:59 -0600 Subject: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D7@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> I'm not sure that is really what I want either. I probably didn't explain myself correctly. I'm trying to make a custom install CD based upon FC2T1. I looked at the isolinux and the boot.iso but I still don't see where the boot image file is that I pass to mkisofs with the -b option. I assume that it would have to be the size of a 2.8 MB floppy? Or should I use the -hard-disk-boot option? Thanks again -Scott -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Joshua Baker-LePain Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:36 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 at 3:31pm, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote > I have gone back and read all of the ones I could find in the February > archives and they all seemed to be concerned with not being able to boot > from floppy. Since I am trying to create a CD there must be a way to > make one (since the FC2T1 install CDs are bootable). Is there an > explanation somewhere of how to create a bootable install CD without the > bootdisk.img or how to create a (too big for floppy) bootdisk.img? What you're looking for then is boot.iso. Booting is accomplished via isolinux. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Mon Mar 22 22:39:02 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:39:02 -0600 Subject: Profiles Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D8@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> I just noticed today that there is a list specifically for SE Linux http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list, perhaps you should try posting this question there? -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 3:08 PM To: fedora Subject: Profiles Hi, Is there a guide anywhere to what one should enter when setting up a selinux policy? I'm guessing user = (say) paul and group would be (say) paul. TTFN Paul -- One OS to fool them all One browser to find them One email client to bring them all And through security holes, blind them... -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Mon Mar 22 22:41:52 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:41:52 +0200 Subject: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D7@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2D7@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: <200403230041.52426.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika tiistai, 23. maaliskuuta 2004 00:34): > I'm not sure that is really what I want either. I probably > didn't explain myself correctly. I'm trying to make a custom > install CD based upon FC2T1. I looked at the isolinux and the > boot.iso but I still don't see where the boot image file is > that I pass to mkisofs with the -b option. Then you need isolinux/isolinux.bin from the first CD. See http://syslinux.zytor.com/iso.php#how > I assume that it > would have to be the size of a 2.8 MB floppy? Or should I use > the -hard-disk-boot option? No, use -no-emul-boot. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Mon Mar 22 22:53:48 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:53:48 +0200 Subject: building gstreamer Message-ID: <1079996027.3905.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> I am trying to build gstreamer from source, and I keep getting the following error messages: jade:/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gstreamer-0.8.0/docs/faq/build/faq.xml:22:0: E: cannot open "/usr/share/sgml/ docbook/xml-dtd-4.2-1.0-24/docbookx. dtd" (No such file or directory) jade:/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gstreamer-0.8.0/docs/faq/build/faq.xml:22:0: E: DTD did not contain element d eclaration for document type name jade:/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gstreamer-0.8.0/docs/faq/build/faq.xml:24:15: E: there is no attribute "class " jade:/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gstreamer-0.8.0/docs/faq/build/faq.xml:24:24: E: there is no attribute "id" jade:/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gstreamer-0.8.0/docs/faq/build/faq.xml:24:31: E: element 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jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl-stylesheets-1.78/html/dblink. dsl:203:1:E: XRef LinkEnd to missing ID 'title-cvs' make[3]: *** [html/index.html] Error 8 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gstreamer-0.8.0/docs/ faq' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gstreamer-0.8.0/docs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gstreamer-0.8.0' make: *** [all] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.21843 (%build) Maynard From gxy3139 at njit.edu Mon Mar 22 22:59:28 2004 From: gxy3139 at njit.edu (Guo Yang) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:59:28 -0500 Subject: rebooting issue and fstab issue Message-ID: <405F6FD0.8060305@njit.edu> Wayne Steenburg I happened to have almost the same problem as yours a couple of days ago. After searched Google I found this website that may answer your question: http://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/nfsv4/linux/ I could access it few hours ago, but now it seems to be down. But here is the cached page in Google: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:cgzG0m2VJnsJ:www.citi.umich.edu/projects/nfsv4/linux/+rpc_pipefs&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Guo From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Tue Mar 23 00:35:36 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:35:36 -0600 Subject: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E2DD@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> That seems to have worked, Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Markku Kolkka Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 3:42 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: bootdisk.img for FC2T1 Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika tiistai, 23. maaliskuuta 2004 00:34): > I'm not sure that is really what I want either. I probably > didn't explain myself correctly. I'm trying to make a custom > install CD based upon FC2T1. I looked at the isolinux and the > boot.iso but I still don't see where the boot image file is > that I pass to mkisofs with the -b option. Then you need isolinux/isolinux.bin from the first CD. See http://syslinux.zytor.com/iso.php#how > I assume that it > would have to be the size of a 2.8 MB floppy? Or should I use > the -hard-disk-boot option? No, use -no-emul-boot. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 00:47:27 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:47:27 -0500 Subject: Booting with LVM2 is much too slow Message-ID: Now that I'm testing with lvm2, there is one thing that must be fixed before release. During boot, it says, "activating logical volumes", or something like that (not logged to dmesg), and then ***sits there for a good 5 minutes with no user feedback that it is even alive***. OK, so exactly why did I install a journalling filesystem? Seriously, I hope it's only like this due to some debugging and it won't act this way when released. From bcs at metacon.ca Tue Mar 23 00:52:06 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:52:06 -0400 Subject: Booting with LVM2 is much too slow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080003115.6872.19.camel@ripley> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 20:47, Neal Becker wrote: > Now that I'm testing with lvm2, there is one thing that must be fixed before > release. During boot, it says, "activating logical volumes", or something > like that (not logged to dmesg), and then ***sits there for a good 5 > minutes with no user feedback that it is even alive***. > > OK, so exactly why did I install a journalling filesystem? > > Seriously, I hope it's only like this due to some debugging and it won't act > this way when released. This is what Alexandre Oliva wrote when I posted a similar question: On Feb 13, 2004, Ben Steeves wrote: > I just installed a FC2 Test 1 system and applied all of the days > patches. When the machine boots, it sits at teh "Setting up Logical > Volume Management" phase for a very long time (about 5 minutes). After > this delay, the message "setlocale failed" is printed and boot continues > normally. The filesystems all appear to work correctly. > Is anyone else seeing odd LVM behaviour? lvm vgscan scans pretty much every block device it can get its hands on. You may filter out stuff that doesn't matter for you using a filter directive in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf. Here's what I use for a machine whose physical volumes are *all* raid devices: devices { filter = [ "a|/dev/md.*|", "r|.*|" ] } this is for another box in which the `r'(emoved) devices are RAID members: devices { filter = [ "r|/dev/hd[acegimos][5689]|", "r|/dev/hd[acegimos]1[012]|", "a|.*|" ] } skipping raid members is a big problem that I wish lvm could take care of by itself, otherwise anaconda will have to do it by itself. If you don't skip raid members, lvm vgscan will simply bail out after finding some ``duplicate'' physical volumes, that turn out to be just the RAID 1 members and the RAID device itself. Ugh! Anyhow, limiting the scanning to only the devices that matter for you (with "a|regexp|", skipping everything else) will help speed up the boot very significantly. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From sehh at altered.com Tue Mar 23 01:40:29 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 01:40:29 +0000 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: <1079988911.405f52af63ae4@helium.firebox.com> References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> <405EC788.9020608@clara.co.uk> <1079988911.405f52af63ae4@helium.firebox.com> Message-ID: <20040323014029.5380cd36@ekolaptis.> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:55:11 +0000 "Douglas Furlong" wrote: > RPM process would freez, CTRL + C would have no effect. kill -9 would tend > to kill the process. > On future runs, RPM would stall/fail untill a reboot. > As YUM relies on the RPM infrastructure, I have noticed once or twice it seems > to suffer from a similar problem, however I may be wrong. > To get around this without rebooting (handy on servers). kill -9 , then rm > /var/lib/rpm/__*.db (some thing along these lines), rpm --rebuilddb > Then RPM seems to run again. I also had these problems with RH9, very annoying and i hated rpm for that. It did happen in FC1 a few times, and i've deleted the database in order to get things running again (erase /var/lib/rpm as you did). From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Tue Mar 23 01:57:20 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:57:20 -0500 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: <1079957374.5705.12.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> References: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405E3EA1.20503@insight.rr.com> <1079957374.5705.12.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> Message-ID: <405F9980.1010209@insight.rr.com> Jim Shepherd wrote: > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 20:17 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>This is a shot in the dark. I cleared the /tmp directory out of all >>lingering files, Then I rebooted and the problems went away, X now starts. >> > > > Completely cleared out my /tmp and /var/tmp directories and still get > the same error. > > >>Looking at your XFree error file, you have similar computer specs as I >>have. 810 video anyway. Here is what the video section looks like. It >>seems to be working alright. >> > > > My Screen section seems to be set up exactly like yours, except you seem > to have an i815 while I seem to have an i810. What modules are you > loading in the Modules section? > > -Jim > > This excerpt is from XF86Config. My card is an 815 and didn't work with several distributions, but seems to work with RH or Fedora. (800 MHz P III) I was worried that it stopped working with xorg originally. Have you tried running system-config-display to try to get x working? There might be documentation on dumping system-config-xfree86, but I didn't realize it until after X wouldn't start. My file was generated by system-config-display as root user. Jim C. Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dri" EndSection From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Tue Mar 23 02:08:41 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:08:41 -0500 Subject: selinux In-Reply-To: <1079992601.1810.16.camel@T6.linux> References: <1079992601.1810.16.camel@T6.linux> Message-ID: <405F9C29.70307@insight.rr.com> Paul wrote: > Hi, > > After the upgrade at the weekend, we had a power outage this morning. > The machine booted up fine, but unless I (or any other user of the > machine) use KDE or XFec (I think it's called), then we cannot login to > gnome. > > I constantly get > > /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and > utmp > /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /user/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w > /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" > "paul" > /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession: line 25: [: missing `]' > > (this is with selinux=0 set in the grub boot line). If I remove the > selinux=0 line from the grub boot line, besides the pile of stuff due to > not having renamed the drives, I still get a similar error > > Any ideas what is going on here? > > How do I rename the drives? There is nothing in the /selinux directory. > > TTFN > > Paul > There are messages which are mini how-to directions in the archive of the selinux list. I take it you want to relabel the files. The packages to install, runlevel to be in and steps to run make and make relabel should be in the earlier messages. About the GNOME problem, no idea except maybe dumping tmp of fscking the drives. Jim http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 23 02:10:53 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:10:53 -0800 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? newrpm In-Reply-To: <405F40F0.5020504@clara.co.uk> References: <405DF21D.2030404@comcast.net> <405DFC15.7030607@clara.co.uk> <405F40F0.5020504@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <20040323021053.GE13063@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 07:39:28PM +0000, Bart Kalita wrote: ...... > > regarding *.newrpm I do not know, seen a post about that today thats all. I suspect a typo s/newrpm/rpmnew/ You should run diff on the original and the .rpmnew file to see if the new config file includes options or defaults that are important to you. Example: locate .rpmnew | grep new$ diff /etc/ntp.conf /etc/ntp.conf.rpmnew Same is true for .rpmsave files. A 'good' sysadmin will eventually resolve and clean out both. For the most part I have found that I can be lazy on this because the RH packages and backporting are done well. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 02:28:21 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:28:21 -0500 Subject: Booting with LVM2 is much too slow References: <1080003115.6872.19.camel@ripley> Message-ID: Ben Steeves wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 20:47, Neal Becker wrote: >> Now that I'm testing with lvm2, there is one thing that must be fixed >> before >> release. During boot, it says, "activating logical volumes", or >> something like that (not logged to dmesg), and then ***sits there for a >> good 5 minutes with no user feedback that it is even alive***. >> >> OK, so exactly why did I install a journalling filesystem? >> >> Seriously, I hope it's only like this due to some debugging and it won't >> act this way when released. > > This is what Alexandre Oliva wrote when I posted a similar question: > > On Feb 13, 2004, Ben Steeves wrote: > >> I just installed a FC2 Test 1 system and applied all of the days >> patches. When the machine boots, it sits at teh "Setting up Logical >> Volume Management" phase for a very long time (about 5 minutes). > After >> this delay, the message "setlocale failed" is printed and boot > continues >> normally. The filesystems all appear to work correctly. > >> Is anyone else seeing odd LVM behaviour? > > lvm vgscan scans pretty much every block device it can get its hands > on. You may filter out stuff that doesn't matter for you using a > filter directive in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf. Here's what I use for a > machine whose physical volumes are *all* raid devices: > > devices { > filter = [ "a|/dev/md.*|", "r|.*|" ] > } > > this is for another box in which the `r'(emoved) devices are RAID > members: > > devices { > filter = [ "r|/dev/hd[acegimos][5689]|", > "r|/dev/hd[acegimos]1[012]|", "a|.*|" ] > } > > skipping raid members is a big problem that I wish lvm could take care > of by itself, otherwise anaconda will have to do it by itself. If you > don't skip raid members, lvm vgscan will simply bail out after finding > some ``duplicate'' physical volumes, that turn out to be just the RAID > 1 members and the RAID device itself. Ugh! > > Anyhow, limiting the scanning to only the devices that matter for you > (with "a|regexp|", skipping everything else) will help speed up the > boot very significantly. For LVM root, this has to be part of initrd? From tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com Tue Mar 23 03:01:32 2004 From: tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com (George Garvey) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:01:32 -0800 Subject: Booting with LVM2 is much too slow In-Reply-To: References: <1080003115.6872.19.camel@ripley> Message-ID: <20040323030132.GI3998@inxservices.com> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:28:21PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > For LVM root, this has to be part of initrd? This happens after root has already been mounted. initrd seems fine as it is made. At least that is how I understood when Olivia pointed the same answer out to me a while back ;) From reader at newsguy.com Tue Mar 23 03:19:39 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:19:39 -0600 Subject: Kernel builds from linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 In-Reply-To: <405F5EC2.8000207@cec.wustl.edu> (Richard Ayer, III's message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:46:42 -0600") References: <002001c40ed7$fd70eb90$72b9fc80@rwa1> <405F5EC2.8000207@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: Richard Ayer III writes: > As it turns out, I had all of those built in and still saw the > error. I may change my fstab entries, but I'd like to figure out what > actually caused the problem. So I'm going to start over with the > config file from the stock 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 kernel and try to slowly > turn things off until I figure out just where it went wrong. If anyone > else has any thoughts that might speed this process up for me, I'd be > greatly appreciative to hear them. I just ran a successfull build with some changes in 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 and didn't hit that snag. It mainly enabled smbfs and NTFS experimental mount and read/write stuff (which I haven't yet tried). I did exclude a number of things but don't remember what exactly now. I'd kind of wore out on going thru .config repeatedly so it may have been done a little quicker than I should have. It did include ext2 ext3 jbd as `built in' not `modular' as Thomas suggested. Maybe it can help you get a start... Posted here: www.jtan.com/~reader/exp/config.cgi From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Mar 23 03:39:05 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 22:39:05 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <20040322204213.GA3591@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> <1079899837.578.7.camel@binkley> <20040322000333.GA20786@localhost.localdomain> <1079969272.11508.11.camel@opus> <20040322204213.GA3591@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080013144.9830.15.camel@binkley> > I'm assuming that yum is here to stay as part of Fedora and it > will evolve into something that takes the best features from > up2date and apt and will be what most people see when we move > into another level of development. The way I look at it, this > stuff will always be in development. When they say it isn't it > will be time to move on to something else. umm, I don't think up2date is going away. > I guess my point is it would be nice if yum was more of a > hunting dog and not so much a house pet. No offense intented > but I hope you known what I'm getting at. The yellow dog I'm > thinking of doesn't eat puppy chow. That awesome creature will > turn your house into a battle zone but is truly your best friend > out in that great wide open where the future is wide open. > the number of ways you mixed this metaphor is astounding. -sv From spam at tachegroup.com Tue Mar 23 03:59:01 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 22:59:01 -0500 Subject: Disable nice boot screen Message-ID: How do I disable the nice graphical boot screen? When it start to boot in that screen, the windows goes black, and I have no video after that. From spam at tachegroup.com Tue Mar 23 04:04:40 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 23:04:40 -0500 Subject: Disable nice boot screen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That would be via the rhgb kernel option. Now onto the error that is happening... on 3/22/2004 10:59 PM, TGS at spam at tachegroup.com wrote: > How do I disable the nice graphical boot screen? When it start to boot in > that screen, the windows goes black, and I have no video after that. > From katzj at redhat.com Tue Mar 23 04:04:04 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 23:04:04 -0500 Subject: Booting with LVM2 is much too slow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080014643.1818.1.camel@edoras.local.net> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 19:47 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > Now that I'm testing with lvm2, there is one thing that must be fixed before > release. During boot, it says, "activating logical volumes", or something > like that (not logged to dmesg), and then ***sits there for a good 5 > minutes with no user feedback that it is even alive***. This should be *much* better with lvm2-2.00.08-5 -- if it's still taking that long even with that, I'd be interested to know it. Cheers, Jeremy From swamper at adelphia.net Tue Mar 23 04:11:39 2004 From: swamper at adelphia.net (Swamper) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 23:11:39 -0500 Subject: linux.redhat.devel Message-ID: <20040323041139.GA4917@localhost.localdomain> The usenet newsgroup linux.redhat.devel isn't very active and I was wondering what that newsgroup was originally created for and if it is still being used for that purpose. If not, it might be a good place for fedora test discussions as an alternative to the mailing list. Please note the word was alternative; not replacement. Also, this is an existing newsgroup with very few new posts. From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 23 04:24:08 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 23 Mar 2004 01:24:08 -0300 Subject: Booting with LVM2 is much too slow In-Reply-To: References: <1080003115.6872.19.camel@ripley> Message-ID: On Mar 22, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > Ben Steeves wrote: >> This is what Alexandre Oliva wrote when I posted a similar question: >> Anyhow, limiting the scanning to only the devices that matter for you >> (with "a|regexp|", skipping everything else) will help speed up the >> boot very significantly. > For LVM root, this has to be part of initrd? Yes, it probably helps, although it's not as critical for initrd, since there are far fewer device files to scan at that time. Current mkinitrd will copy lvm.conf to initrd for you. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Tue Mar 23 04:56:00 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 06:56:00 +0200 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: <405F9980.1010209@insight.rr.com> References: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405E3EA1.20503@insight.rr.com> <1079957374.5705.12.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405F9980.1010209@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1080017759.6756.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 20:57 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > Jim Shepherd wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 20:17 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > > > >>This is a shot in the dark. I cleared the /tmp directory out of all > >>lingering files, Then I rebooted and the problems went away, X now starts. > >> > > > > > > Completely cleared out my /tmp and /var/tmp directories and still get > > the same error. > > > > > >>Looking at your XFree error file, you have similar computer specs as I > >>have. 810 video anyway. Here is what the video section looks like. It > >>seems to be working alright. > >> > > > > > > My Screen section seems to be set up exactly like yours, except you seem > > to have an i815 while I seem to have an i810. What modules are you > > loading in the Modules section? > > > > -Jim > > > > > > This excerpt is from XF86Config. My card is an 815 and didn't work with > several distributions, but seems to work with RH or Fedora. > (800 MHz P III) > > I was worried that it stopped working with xorg originally. > > Have you tried running system-config-display to try to get x working? > There might be documentation on dumping system-config-xfree86, but I > didn't realize it until after X wouldn't start. > My file was generated by system-config-display as root user. > > Jim C. > > > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "extmod" > Load "fbdevhw" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > Load "dri" > EndSection > > Also, xorg supports running without XF86config. I used this to fix mine after it wouldn't find my fonts. Although it was running at limited resolution. From ehoover at mines.edu Tue Mar 23 05:44:56 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (Erich Hoover) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 22:44:56 -0700 Subject: MrProject vs. "Planner" Message-ID: <405FCED8.2050306@mines.edu> FC2 includes a project management tool called MrProject, but it appears (at least to me) that MrProject has stopped development and a group has restarted work on it under the name "Planner". I did this little research since MrProject couldn't restore my saved files and I figured there would be a bugfix for the problem - which there isn't since MrProject is apparently no longer maintained (though Planner has a fix for this and can read MrProject saves). If anyone knows for sure on this maybe MrProject should be replaced with Planner in rawhide? MrProject website: http://mrproject.codefactory.se/ Planner website: http://planner.imendio.org/ From dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu Tue Mar 23 07:10:57 2004 From: dougmc83 at mail.utexas.edu (Douglas McMorris) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 01:10:57 -0600 Subject: keyboard issue Message-ID: <1080025857.8309.4.camel@d-mak.homelinux.org> hello all, After upgrading a while back I've had a key board issue. I thought it was just the gnome packages i updated, but i've sense updated them again and the problem persist. If I run a gnome session, i cannot use my keyboard... well, mostly. multimedia keys work (vol up, vol down, etc) and the query dialog for pam accepts my password fine, but those are the only things that work. everything is fine is xfce4 though, so i'm using it now. is there something i should purge from my gnome settings? I've tried running/killing individual apps to see if something was steeling and maintaining keyboard focus, but couldn't find anything (i can run metacity and gnome-panel in xfce without any problems, and xfwm4 in gnome doesn't fix it). any ideas on how to track this down are welcome. thanks all. From stephen at skmoore.com Tue Mar 23 07:27:53 2004 From: stephen at skmoore.com (Stephen Moore) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:27:53 +1000 Subject: {Spam?} selinux In-Reply-To: <1079992601.1810.16.camel@T6.linux> References: <1079992601.1810.16.camel@T6.linux> Message-ID: <405FE6F9.9090503@skmoore.com> Paul wrote: >Hi, > >After the upgrade at the weekend, we had a power outage this morning. >The machine booted up fine, but unless I (or any other user of the >machine) use KDE or XFec (I think it's called), then we cannot login to >gnome. > > > I also cant log into gnome sucessfully always. seems to log in 25% of the time, otherwise it just hangs on the splash screen. I kill X, kill remaining processes belonging to me and can then often log in. KDE works fine for me also I am not using selinux! Cheers From stephen at skmoore.com Tue Mar 23 07:30:12 2004 From: stephen at skmoore.com (Stephen Moore) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:30:12 +1000 Subject: Disable nice boot screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <405FE784.704@skmoore.com> I am guessing dvi video, happens to me too TGS wrote: >That would be via the rhgb kernel option. > >Now onto the error that is happening... > >on 3/22/2004 10:59 PM, TGS at spam at tachegroup.com wrote: > > > >>How do I disable the nice graphical boot screen? When it start to boot in >>that screen, the windows goes black, and I have no video after that. >> >> >> > > > > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Mar 23 07:53:35 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 07:53:35 +0000 Subject: Running xorg without xf86config Message-ID: <1080028415.1721.15.camel@T6.linux> Hi, So that I can get things working on my test box again, I've noticed that it is possible (from a posting on this list) that you can run xorg without xf86config. How do I do that? I'm considering reinstalling xfree86 4.4.0 to get things working again, but I'd rather be using xorg to ensure my machine is running the official xorg software. Unfortunately, time is pressing me on this one. I've also noticed a selinux problem. Boot with selinux enabled and xorg fails to start. Boot without selinux and xorg starts fine. Okay, I can't get into gnome (and evolution won't work under KDE - it comes up with an X error (can't start 0 - you know the one)) as I get the Xsession error (missing ']'). When starting selinux, I also see a pile of what look to be profile errors (write forbidden errors - they come up too quickly). Is there a howto on setting up profiles - I'm on more than enough mailing lists and don't really want to join the selinux one. It has been suggested that I liberally sprinkle strace around the place. Any suggestions where to sprinkle them or my other problems? I have relabelled the files TTFN Paul -- One OS to fool them all One browser to find them One email client to bring them all And through security holes, blind them... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If anyone knows for sure on > this maybe MrProject should be replaced with Planner in rawhide? Yes. That is the plan. We haven't gotten to it yet though. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's an oversexed moralistic boxer on his last day in the job. She's a time-travelling hip-hop mermaid trying to make a difference in a man's world. They fight crime! From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Mar 23 08:39:07 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:39:07 +0000 Subject: Evolution Message-ID: <1080031146.12945.9.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Is there any real reason which Evolution is way slower than any other piece of email software available? I don't have spamassassin turned on and emails still come down slowly. If I use any other piece of email software, mail rockets down. The only thing I can think of is that I still have the spamc rules set on my filters, but that shouldn't really be taking so much time should it? TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Tue Mar 23 08:47:36 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 02:47:36 -0600 Subject: Kernel builds from linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 References: <002001c40ed7$fd70eb90$72b9fc80@rwa1><405F5EC2.8000207@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <006001c410b3$7f776ce0$72b9fc80@rwa1> I've actually had ext2, ext3, and jbd as builtin the whole time. I made important changes to the config file I had tried earlier: I added back in RAM disk, initrd, and RAID support, all as builtin (with specific types of RAID as modules, like the stock 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 config). Now I get this error: md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md ... autorun DONE. RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 RAMDISK: incomplete write (-1 != 32768) 4194304 VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) Everything works just fine with the stock 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1; but I want NTFS support, tuner support to try to use tvtime with my ATI AIW 9800 Pro, and to turn off all the extra stuff that my system happens not to need. Thoughts? TIA, Richard Ayer III From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Tue Mar 23 09:17:44 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 04:17:44 -0500 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1080013144.9830.15.camel@binkley> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> <1079899837.578.7.camel@binkley> <20040322000333.GA20786@localhost.localdomain> <1079969272.11508.11.camel@opus> <20040322204213.GA3591@localhost.localdomain> <1080013144.9830.15.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1080033464.3847.8.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 22:39 -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > I guess my point is it would be nice if yum was more of a > > hunting dog and not so much a house pet. No offense intented > > but I hope you known what I'm getting at. The yellow dog I'm > > thinking of doesn't eat puppy chow. That awesome creature will > > turn your house into a battle zone but is truly your best friend > > out in that great wide open where the future is wide open. > > > > the number of ways you mixed this metaphor is astounding. > I have this awful scary feeling in my stomach reading this ... reminds me of some code I had to debug recently :) From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Tue Mar 23 09:31:25 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 04:31:25 -0500 Subject: linux.redhat.devel In-Reply-To: <20040323041139.GA4917@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040323041139.GA4917@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080034285.3847.13.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 23:11 -0500, Swamper wrote: > The usenet newsgroup linux.redhat.devel isn't very active and I > was wondering what that newsgroup was originally created for and > if it is still being used for that purpose. If not, it might be > a good place for fedora test discussions as an alternative to > the mailing list. You can get this list as a news feed from news.gmane.org. See http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Tue Mar 23 10:52:46 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:52:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <002f01c40dbf$01441450$dda8a18e@ripper> References: <000801c40d8f$9bb01870$0101010a@whitestar> <002f01c40dbf$01441450$dda8a18e@ripper> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Janusz Sadowski wrote: > It looks like it's a kernel thing. One guy says he switched to kernel 2.6 on > SUSE9.0 and got the same error. The problem seems to be when oracle does a particular shmget call shmget(IPC_PRIVATE, some number, IPC_CREAT|IPC_EXCL|IPC_NOWAIT|0600) to sort out its shared memory. In 2.6 it seems you need extra kernel capabilities for this to work (I think CAP_IPC_LOCK). I do have a way around this, but it is too much of a bad idea to share at the moment. The correct solution would be to find some way of granting this extra capability to the oracle user or appropriate executables, which you might be able to do with selinux, and I have an idea of how it might be done more safely without selinux. Michael Young From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 12:00:57 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 07:00:57 -0500 Subject: Booting with LVM2 is much too slow In-Reply-To: <1080014643.1818.1.camel@edoras.local.net> References: <1080014643.1818.1.camel@edoras.local.net> Message-ID: <200403230701.01866.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 March 2004 11:04 pm, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 19:47 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > Now that I'm testing with lvm2, there is one thing that must be fixed > > before release. During boot, it says, "activating logical volumes", or > > something like that (not logged to dmesg), and then ***sits there for a > > good 5 minutes with no user feedback that it is even alive***. > > This should be *much* better with lvm2-2.00.08-5 -- if it's still taking > that long even with that, I'd be interested to know it. > YES! I just tried it - it went by so fast I couldn't even time it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAYCb7MDqogpR5tkMRAi5cAJ9lb4rDiFH5LVgn2LsMtxeDmjkwggCdFp8J 6kwZH/Qv73yJ9qvOJ3+BvOc= =BNHY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From iainr at zathras.org Tue Mar 23 12:36:23 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:36:23 +0000 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079926962.2164.21.camel@binkley> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <405D6E3B.6070603@zathras.org> <1079881404.15236.13.camel@binkley> <405DC0C1.7020703@zathras.org> <1079886130.15236.23.camel@binkley> <405DD3E8.4000108@zathras.org> <1079899689.578.3.camel@binkley> <405DFE1C.30607@zathras.org> <1079902485.1017.9.camel@binkley> <405E5FC9.3000207@zathras.org> <1079926962.2164.21.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <40602F47.6000805@zathras.org> seth vidal wrote: >>We're not running yum, we're using an in house tool since we couldn't >>find anything that would meet all our requirements[0], for some >>combinations of host/rpm we want to specify rpm versions tighter than >>"what's available" >> >> > >this is something in the cards for yum's next major version which I'm >working on a little bit as often as I can. > >there are a lot of things I'd like to get implemented and installing >random versions of things is something I'd like to do nicely. > > > > This worldwide shortage of round tuits is terrible isn't it. :) >>In the tree, no I don't "know" that. There could be no unresolved deps >>in the tree but at the same time there may be dependancy problems with a >>host running one of about 100 rpms sets that aren't our standard set, we >>could write something to check this but the pain level hasn't hit high >>enough to warrant it - yet. though that seems to be on the cards for >>this summer. >> >> > >I hope to have a working system in place for the next version of yum >before summer hits. This will be the framework I want to use to add a >fair number of useful features. In short, stay tuned. :) > > > > okdokey. >>No, we're running a global update having done a reasonable set of >>checks, we expect the system to let us know about failed rpms, >>dependancy errors or not. >> >> > >but you also expect it to install any and everything it actually can, is >that right? > > > > Ah, now you hit the great religious debate as to whether, after a partially failed update of a system, it's better to have it in a valid (but outdated) configuration or a random state between two valid configurations. I can see both points of view, having machines in random states is not good, but having a bunch of security updates fail because installing some xmms skins filled the root partition on some machines isn't good either. If I were writing something I'd try to produce a tool which could cope with either and leave the choice as a policy decision for the site to make. How you'd do the latter case I'm not sure, put the rpms into groups and assign the groups priorities I guess. >>I didn't say it wasn't an unreasonable error, merely pointed out that >>unresolved dependancies were not the only problems you'll run into if >>you're running automated updates, hence monitor/report the status of >>your updates. >> >> > >again we get into the issue of error codes and how to report back, it >gets increasingly complex, I've found to report a percentage of >failure/success. > > this isn't easy stuff, System Administration, like plumbing, is hard. If it were easy anyone could do it and we'd be out of jobs. From bcs at metacon.ca Tue Mar 23 12:46:38 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:46:38 -0400 Subject: Evolution In-Reply-To: <1080031146.12945.9.camel@T7.linux> References: <1080031146.12945.9.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1080045998.12303.60.camel@zephyr> On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 04:39, Paul wrote: > I don't have spamassassin turned on and emails still come down slowly. > If I use any other piece of email software, mail rockets down. It's plenty fast using IMAP here with two different servers. Maybe it's a server issue. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 12:59:13 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 07:59:13 -0500 Subject: Moved to 1.91 Message-ID: I guess todays updates move us to 1.91. yum sources don't exist yet: sudo yum list Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.91 - i386 - Base retrygrab() failed for: http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.91/i386/yum/os/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Mar 23 13:01:37 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:01:37 +0000 Subject: Evolution In-Reply-To: <1080045998.12303.60.camel@zephyr> References: <1080031146.12945.9.camel@T7.linux> <1080045998.12303.60.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1080046897.20401.18.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, > > I don't have spamassassin turned on and emails still come down slowly. > > If I use any other piece of email software, mail rockets down. > > It's plenty fast using IMAP here with two different servers. Maybe it's > a server issue. Nope. If it was a server issue then other pieces of email software would be dog slow at dragging down the email. TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From c.hauser at active.ch Tue Mar 23 13:11:29 2004 From: c.hauser at active.ch (Christian Hauser) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:11:29 +0100 Subject: Gnome 2.6 in FC2 test 2? Message-ID: <40603781.8000100@active.ch> Hello Now that Gnome 2.6 and Nautilus 2.6 are out, will they be included in Fedora Core 2 Test 2? I know that there is a test2 devel freeze since 17 March, but including Gnome 2.6 already in test2 would IMHO make sense. Regards, Christian From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue Mar 23 13:15:21 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:15:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: any planned updates for mysql? Message-ID: rawhide currently provides mysql 3.23, while at www.mysql.com, there's already documentation for the alpha release of mysql 5.0.0. are there any plans for updates to mysql in the FC stream in the forseeable future? rday From c.hauser at active.ch Tue Mar 23 13:22:41 2004 From: c.hauser at active.ch (Christian Hauser) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:22:41 +0100 Subject: any planned updates for mysql? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40603A21.3050709@active.ch> Robert P. J. Day wrote: > rawhide currently provides mysql 3.23, while at www.mysql.com, there's > already documentation for the alpha release of mysql 5.0.0. are there any > plans for updates to mysql in the FC stream in the forseeable future? AFAIK not until all licensing problems are solved. http://www.mysql.com/products/foss-exception.html is for client libraries only, but there are still several issues to be solved. Search for mysql in the archives of this list and you should find a lot of information about this issue. HTH, Christian From sehh at altered.com Tue Mar 23 13:28:26 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:28:26 +0000 Subject: MrProject vs. "Planner" In-Reply-To: <1080030334.29202.1225.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <405FCED8.2050306@mines.edu> <1080030334.29202.1225.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040323132826.06120a75@ekolaptis.> On 23 Mar 2004 09:25:35 +0100 "Alexander Larsson" wrote: > If anyone knows for sure on > > this maybe MrProject should be replaced with Planner in rawhide? > > Yes. That is the plan. We haven't gotten to it yet though. That is correct. MrProject was replaced by Planner. Essentialy its the same project, but the authors had to change its name at some point when, i think, they moved from one job to another. Probably their old job claimed "MrProject" was copyrighted under their own company because the project was developed while they worked for them. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 13:36:00 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:36:00 -0500 Subject: fatal ohci1394 module not found Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 2.6.4-1.281 at boot says: fatal ohci1394 module not found good thing I don't need it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAYD1GMDqogpR5tkMRAkUqAJ9Pgy73nCDqyxC5vIOQ9b3zgVxQ6QCfb45N 17is2XvoaEDeilndK7MbbGo= =H2vu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 13:38:04 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:38:04 -0500 Subject: anticipatory io scheduler changed to deadline? Message-ID: I noticed that on booting 2.6.4-1.281 it says using deadline io scheduler, instead of anticipatory io scheduler. Is this change intentional? From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Mar 23 14:13:12 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:13:12 +0100 Subject: Moved to 1.91 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <406045F8.7070307@gmx.de> Neal D. Becker wrote: >I guess todays updates move us to 1.91. > > only fedora-release http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/fedora-release-1.91-1.i386.rpm >yum sources don't exist yet: > > http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.91/i386/yum/os/headers/header.info > no http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/ you have to wait a few days http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ possibilities ? downgrade to fedora-release 1.90 or modify your yum.conf , rhn/sources -- shrek-m From Holger.Kiehl at dwd.de Tue Mar 23 14:20:43 2004 From: Holger.Kiehl at dwd.de (Holger Kiehl) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:20:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: vsftpd hangup under high load Message-ID: Hello Using fedora 1.90 (FC2 Test 1) (with no updates) and doing some heavy ftp stress test vsftpd just hangs: ps x . . . 1916 ? S 0:04 vsftpd: LISTENER . . strace -p 1916 Process 1916 attached - interrupt to quit futex(0x401757c0, FUTEX_WAIT, 2, NULL I must add that I am using a plain kernel (2.6.5-rc1) from kernel.org. Holger From alexl at redhat.com Tue Mar 23 14:22:53 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 23 Mar 2004 15:22:53 +0100 Subject: Gnome 2.6 in FC2 test 2? In-Reply-To: <40603781.8000100@active.ch> References: <40603781.8000100@active.ch> Message-ID: <1080051773.29202.1232.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 14:11, Christian Hauser wrote: > Hello > > Now that Gnome 2.6 and Nautilus 2.6 are out, will they be included in > Fedora Core 2 Test 2? > > I know that there is a test2 devel freeze since 17 March, but including > Gnome 2.6 already in test2 would IMHO make sense. test2 contains gtk+ 2.4 and the gnome 2.6 release candidate. It should be almost the final gnome 2.6. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's an unconventional soccer-playing grifter on his last day in the job. She's a sharp-shooting nymphomaniac advertising executive with a knack for trouble. They fight crime! From gene.smith at sea.siemens.com Tue Mar 23 14:35:26 2004 From: gene.smith at sea.siemens.com (geneSmith) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 09:35:26 -0500 Subject: On shutdown "can't open /proc/partitions" Message-ID: Finally got upgraded to xorg after ungrading/installing 312 packages. However, now have one additonal problem. Each time the system shuts down and tries to unmount / fs, I see a one line message "Could not open /proc/partitions" plus something about UID and LABEL. Then when I restart, it always does a lengthy check on my ext2 root fs and does not find anything wrong. Then I have to boot again and all is fine, until I shutdown again. I have not yet checked the state of the file /proc/partitions during run time. Any idea what could cause this problem. Actually, I first noticed it during the upgrade when I tried to restart xfs and the system locked/crashed (at which point I had not yet run ldconfig like I should have) and I had to press reset. Tks, -gene From twaugh at redhat.com Tue Mar 23 14:46:38 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:46:38 +0000 Subject: On shutdown "can't open /proc/partitions" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040323144638.GI22468@redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 09:35:26AM -0500, geneSmith wrote: > However, now have one additonal problem. Each time the system shuts down > and tries to unmount / fs, I see a one line message "Could not open > /proc/partitions" plus something about UID and LABEL. This initscripts bug has been fixed in CVS. 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When starting selinux, I also see a pile of what look to > be profile errors (write forbidden errors - they come up too quickly). > Is there a howto on setting up profiles - I'm on more than enough > mailing lists and don't really want to join the selinux one. Hmm. I had tons of SELinux issues until I formatted and installed development from scratch. Perhaps you can try that. I can start xorg just fine on my Radeon. From cra at WPI.EDU Tue Mar 23 16:02:22 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:02:22 -0500 Subject: anticipatory io scheduler changed to deadline? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040323160222.GP12094@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 08:38:04AM -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > I noticed that on booting 2.6.4-1.281 it says using deadline io scheduler, > instead of anticipatory io scheduler. Is this change intentional? I've heard some say that deadline is better for desktops. From bartk at clara.co.uk Tue Mar 23 16:16:16 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:16:16 +0000 Subject: Kernel 2.6.4-1.281 and cifs problems Message-ID: <406062D0.9020009@clara.co.uk> I'm not entirely sure if its Kernel problem but... after todays update via yum to 1.91 I can't mount my windows shares. [root at nemesis bart]# mount -t cifs -o username=administrator //Nexus/Downs /home/bart/nexus_downs/ Password: mount error 13 = Permission denied Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs) [root at nemesis bart]# Everything was fine up to latest kernel form Arjan. Nothing was changed on any shares. -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From gene.smith at sea.siemens.com Tue Mar 23 16:20:46 2004 From: gene.smith at sea.siemens.com (geneSmith) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:20:46 -0500 Subject: On shutdown "can't open /proc/partitions" In-Reply-To: <20040323144638.GI22468@redhat.com> References: <20040323144638.GI22468@redhat.com> Message-ID: Tim Waugh wrote: > > This initscripts bug has been fixed in CVS. > > Tim. Any idea when this fix will be up2date/yum-able? -gene P/S: Is there a web-browsable CVS interface for fedora*? From bartk at clara.co.uk Tue Mar 23 16:32:21 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:32:21 +0000 Subject: No KDE system sounds after update Message-ID: <40606695.4080200@clara.co.uk> And just one more strange thing: After update to Arjan Kernel yesterday I've lost all event sounds in KDE. Xmms plays fine, xine doesnt have any problems and test sound in Control centre plays as well. any ideas? -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From markf78 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 23 16:34:02 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:34:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Kernel 2.6.4-1.281 and cifs problems In-Reply-To: <406062D0.9020009@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <20040323163402.29555.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- --- Bart Kalita wrote: > I'm not entirely sure if its Kernel problem but... > > after todays update via yum to 1.91 I can't mount my windows shares. > > [root at nemesis bart]# mount -t cifs -o username=administrator > //Nexus/Downs /home/bart/nexus_downs/ > Password: > mount error 13 = Permission denied > Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs) > [root at nemesis bart]# > > Everything was fine up to latest kernel form Arjan. there's now kernel 2.6.4-1.286 in arjan's directory ... mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From twaugh at redhat.com Tue Mar 23 17:12:37 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:12:37 +0000 Subject: On shutdown "can't open /proc/partitions" In-Reply-To: References: <20040323144638.GI22468@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040323171237.GJ22468@redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 11:20:46AM -0500, geneSmith wrote: > Any idea when this fix will be up2date/yum-able? Once test 2 is out, I expect. You can fix it by hand: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118880 > P/S: Is there a web-browsable CVS interface for fedora*? Not yet. :-( Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. >http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > > > Just updated to it , thanks, anyway still no luck -> no cifs no sounds in KDE -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 23 18:44:57 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:44:57 -0500 Subject: anticipatory io scheduler changed to deadline? In-Reply-To: <20040323160222.GP12094@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <20040323160222.GP12094@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <20040323184457.GB31159@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 11:02:22AM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 08:38:04AM -0500, Neal D. Becker wrote: > > I noticed that on booting 2.6.4-1.281 it says using deadline io scheduler, > > instead of anticipatory io scheduler. Is this change intentional? > > I've heard some say that deadline is better for desktops. Anticipatory performs dreadfully for swap. Many desktops have one disk. The rest follows logically. From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Tue Mar 23 18:45:02 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:45:02 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Kernel builds from linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1] Message-ID: <406085AE.9020109@cec.wustl.edu> Forgot to CC this to the list. Richard Ayer III -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Richard Ayer III Subject: Re: Kernel builds from linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:42:21 -0600 Size: 3676 URL: From brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com Tue Mar 23 21:00:16 2004 From: brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com (Bill Rugolsky Jr.) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:00:16 -0500 Subject: anticipatory io scheduler changed to deadline? In-Reply-To: <20040323184457.GB31159@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040323160222.GP12094@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <20040323184457.GB31159@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040323210016.GF11314@ti19.telemetry-investments.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 01:44:57PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > Anticipatory performs dreadfully for swap. Many desktops have one disk. > The rest follows logically. Alan, Is that expected to still be true when using RAID1, or will the independence of the spindles (for reads) compensate for the slowdown? [Yet another benchmark to add to the todo list ...] Bill Rugolsky From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 23 21:15:19 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:15:19 -0500 Subject: anticipatory io scheduler changed to deadline? In-Reply-To: <20040323210016.GF11314@ti19.telemetry-investments.com> References: <20040323160222.GP12094@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <20040323184457.GB31159@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040323210016.GF11314@ti19.telemetry-investments.com> Message-ID: <20040323211519.GA13615@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 04:00:16PM -0500, Bill Rugolsky Jr. wrote: > Is that expected to still be true when using RAID1, or will the independence > of the spindles (for reads) compensate for the slowdown? > > [Yet another benchmark to add to the todo list ...] I don't know. I'd love to see the benchmark From piet at www.piet.net Tue Mar 23 21:17:04 2004 From: piet at www.piet.net (Piet Delaney) Date: 23 Mar 2004 13:17:04 -0800 Subject: Core 2 test 1 iso's for AMD 64? In-Reply-To: <20040322204823.GE1389@comcast.net> References: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> <200403221325.13674.czar@czarc.net> <20040322204823.GE1389@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1080076624.18949.1570.camel@www.piet.net> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 12:48, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > On Monday 22 March 2004 13:10, Peter Boy wrote: > > If I remember correctly, someone made unofficially a set of iso's of > > core 2 test 1 available, compiled for AMD 64. Unfortunately I can't find > > the message. Can someone give me a link? > > > > I decided against providing the test1 ISOs mainly so that I could spend a > bit more time focusing on other things. Test 2 should have x86_64 ISOs. > The devel tree has been installable for quite some time, though it has been > difficult in the past couple of weeks to find a complete mirror. As of > this weekend, it seems the relevant i?86 packages have been added to the > x86_64 tree as well. Is http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/distributions/fedora-devel/x86_64 a good source for the current devel tree? I'm trying to update my Core1 amd64 with a 2.6 kernel. I had some problems with the 2.6.3 kernel with the USB mouse. I didn't see the redhat changes in the kernel SOURCES. There are lots of 2.4 patches and a few 2.6.3 patches but I didn't see any USB related patches. -piet > > Justin > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- piet at www.piet.net From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 23 21:55:15 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:55:15 -0500 Subject: Core 2 test 1 iso's for AMD 64? In-Reply-To: <1080076624.18949.1570.camel@www.piet.net> References: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> <20040322204823.GE1389@comcast.net> <1080076624.18949.1570.camel@www.piet.net> Message-ID: <200403231655.15888.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 23 March 2004 16:17, Piet Delaney wrote: > Is > http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/distributions/fedora-devel/x86_64 > > a good source for the current devel tree? My guess is no (unfortunately). The problem is that images/bootiso and Fedora/base/* files are dataed 17 March while Fedora/RPMS/* files are dated 21 March. When I did something similar I found that the hdlist did not match the packages available and the install went nowhere. -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 23 21:55:15 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:55:15 -0500 Subject: Core 2 test 1 iso's for AMD 64? In-Reply-To: <1080076624.18949.1570.camel@www.piet.net> References: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> <20040322204823.GE1389@comcast.net> <1080076624.18949.1570.camel@www.piet.net> Message-ID: <200403231655.15888.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 23 March 2004 16:17, Piet Delaney wrote: > Is > http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/distributions/fedora-devel/x86_64 > > a good source for the current devel tree? My guess is no (unfortunately). The problem is that images/bootiso and Fedora/base/* files are dataed 17 March while Fedora/RPMS/* files are dated 21 March. When I did something similar I found that the hdlist did not match the packages available and the install went nowhere. -- Gene From mail at lotus-notes.net Tue Mar 23 22:04:43 2004 From: mail at lotus-notes.net (mail at lotus-notes.net) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:04:43 -0500 Subject: anticipatory io scheduler changed to deadline? References: <20040323160222.GP12094@angus.ind.WPI.EDU><20040323184457.GB31159@devserv.devel.redhat.com><20040323210016.GF11314@ti19.telemetry-investments.com> <20040323211519.GA13615@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <00a601c41122$d91f8ba0$04a8a8c0@p428> Does anyone know why the update channel for the fedore core, hangs up the last 2 days on the Fedora Logo's update? I installed core 1 and core 2 on a total of 4 machines, and I get the same error every time when running the red hat network update. It fetches the rpm headers up to that one every single time even on fresh installs. thanks, Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Cox" To: "Bill Rugolsky Jr." Cc: "Alan Cox" ; Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Re: anticipatory io scheduler changed to deadline? > On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 04:00:16PM -0500, Bill Rugolsky Jr. wrote: > > Is that expected to still be true when using RAID1, or will the independence > > of the spindles (for reads) compensate for the slowdown? > > > > [Yet another benchmark to add to the todo list ...] > > I don't know. I'd love to see the benchmark > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From sct at redhat.com Tue Mar 23 22:21:37 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 23 Mar 2004 22:21:37 +0000 Subject: Booting with LVM2 is much too slow In-Reply-To: <200403230701.01866.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <1080014643.1818.1.camel@edoras.local.net> <200403230701.01866.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1080080497.2718.26.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 12:00, Neal Becker wrote: > On Monday 22 March 2004 11:04 pm, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 19:47 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > > Now that I'm testing with lvm2, there is one thing that must be fixed > > > before release. During boot, it says, "activating logical volumes", or > > > something like that (not logged to dmesg), and then ***sits there for a > > > good 5 minutes with no user feedback that it is even alive***. > > > > This should be *much* better with lvm2-2.00.08-5 -- if it's still taking > > that long even with that, I'd be interested to know it. > YES! I just tried it - it went by so fast I couldn't even time it. Excellent. The new lvm2 code includes code to scan the sysfs filesystem under /sys/block to avoid trying to look at any device nodes that don't have drivers loaded. Nice to hear that it's working for you! Cheers, Stephen From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Tue Mar 23 23:33:21 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:33:21 +0200 Subject: Rhythmbox and mp3 Message-ID: <1080084801.8832.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> In the interests of those who want to be able to play mp3s, I would like to suggest that Rhythmbox be built without disabling mp3. I notice in one srpm that it has --disable-mp3. I am sure just enabling it and not shipping the gstreamer-mp3 or equivalent should be adequate for IP concerns. This way people can track the official repository and not have to get rhythmob from third parties. From piet at www.piet.net Wed Mar 24 00:16:05 2004 From: piet at www.piet.net (Piet Delaney) Date: 23 Mar 2004 16:16:05 -0800 Subject: Core 2 test 1 iso's for AMD 64? (Using .config file from Core 2 test 1 Kernel Src fixed USB Mouse Problem) In-Reply-To: <200403231655.15888.czar@czarc.net> References: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> <20040322204823.GE1389@comcast.net> <1080076624.18949.1570.camel@www.piet.net> <200403231655.15888.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080087365.18949.1579.camel@www.piet.net> On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 13:55, Gene C. wrote: > On Tuesday 23 March 2004 16:17, Piet Delaney wrote: > > Is > > http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/distributions/fedora-devel/x86_64 > > > > a good source for the current devel tree? > > My guess is no (unfortunately). The problem is that images/bootiso and > Fedora/base/* files are dataed 17 March while Fedora/RPMS/* files are dated > 21 March. When I did something similar I found that the hdlist did not match > the packages available and the install went nowhere. I did manage to come up cleanly on 2.6.3 by starting with the .config file that came with the kernel src. Looks like my USB mouse problems have been resolved. -piet > -- > Gene > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- piet at www.piet.net From Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com Wed Mar 24 00:31:03 2004 From: Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com (Tommy McNeely) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:31:03 -0700 Subject: xorg + nvidia = bad news Message-ID: Well, I finally trashed up2date.. the "some sort of I/O error occurred, not a gzip'd file" was getting really old.. yum, however, seems to work just fine (although it takes a fricken eternity to download the headers the first time). I followed the various people's steps to get xorg installed on FC2t1. it worked.. I even enabled the "ld.so.conf.d" stuff before I did xorg, and I didn't have to re-add the X11 lib path. I did, however have to add xfs back (chkconfig --add xfs). Along with xorg, I updated approximately 300 other packages, so this may or may not have anything to do with xorg. Anyways, when I rebooted, I went through the normal re-compiling of the nvidia kernel module (I think "nvidia-installer -f -K") .. and when I did a "startx" it went to a black screen and just sat there.. couldn't even ping the box anymore.. so I reset.. and it hung again during RHGB.. so I turned that off and it hung when it tried to go to init 5... so I booted to the non-smp kernel (cause it wouldn't have the nvidia driver and would nicely fail).. and changed my XF86Config to use the "nv" driver... now X starts, but GDM is still hosed. I get a black screen with an "X" cursor.. if I move the mouse or touch the keyboard gdm crashes, and comes up to a blue screen saying stuff about how there is already an X server running.. bla bla bla.. X didn't crash.. its still there in F7 .. so.. I killed that off and ran startx manually .. and that seems to work.. ofcourse minus the login screen (gdm) and the dual head (TwinView) .. since I never logout, I could really care less about GDM, but if someone has a tip on getting nvidia to work, I would be greateful :) [root at cookies root]# rpm -qa | grep xorg xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-twm-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-sdk-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-xauth-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-devel-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-font-utils-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-base-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-tools-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-xdm-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-doc-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-syriac-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-libs-data-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-xfs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-Xnest-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-libs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-Xvfb-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-truetype-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 [root at cookies root]# uname -a Linux cookies.central.sun.com 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 #1 Fri Mar 12 14:01:55 EST 2004 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [root at cookies root]# rpm -q kernel-smp kernel-smp-2.6.1-1.65 kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.242 kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253 kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 [root at cookies root]# all updates as of (NOW) :) 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4600] (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: VISIONTEK: Unknown device 0037 Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 Memory at 52000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at c8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1.run Thanks in advance, Tommy From wolters.liste at gmx.net Wed Mar 24 00:34:52 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:34:52 +0100 Subject: Foreign alphabets Message-ID: <200403240134.52990.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Hi, when I open the site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Multilingual_coordination#Encyclopedia_projects some alphabets are not displayed correct - for example hindi, arabic, urdu, tamil, ... Its the same in Mozilla as in Konqueror, others reported that they have the same problem. But I know that UTF-8 is able to display many alphabets, so taht is not the problem. And India has its own Linux distribution, I can not imagine that there is no one who wants a localozed Linux, so there are some font-packages, I think. What do I have to do to view all the languages? By the way, the german Wiki shows a better overview over the languages and in this way over their implementation: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Liste_aller_verf?gbaren_Sprachen System: X.org Server KDE 3.2.1 FC2t1 Roland From gds at chartertn.net Wed Mar 24 02:38:28 2004 From: gds at chartertn.net (Gene Smith) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:38:28 -0500 Subject: On shutdown "can't open /proc/partitions" In-Reply-To: <20040323171237.GJ22468@redhat.com> References: <20040323144638.GI22468@redhat.com> <20040323171237.GJ22468@redhat.com> Message-ID: Tim Waugh wrote, On 03/23/2004 12:12 PM: > Once test 2 is out, I expect. You can fix it by hand: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118880 I did. It did. Thanks! -gene From Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com Wed Mar 24 02:45:02 2004 From: Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com (Tommy McNeely) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 19:45:02 -0700 Subject: xorg + nvidia = bad news References: Message-ID: Followup to my own post :) I switched back to kernel 2.6.1 (listed below) and the kudzu hangs.. but I went interactive, skipped kudzu.. recompiled my kernel module for 2.6.1 and voila :) I am back to using my fancy closed source video driver.. looks like 2.6.3 is what made it unhappy, not xorg HOWEVER! gdm is still fscked :) tommy On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:31:03 -0700, Tommy McNeely wrote: > Well, > > I finally trashed up2date.. the "some sort of I/O error occurred, not a > gzip'd file" was getting really old.. yum, however, seems to work just > fine (although it takes a fricken eternity to download the headers the > first time). I followed the various people's steps to get xorg installed > on FC2t1. it worked.. I even enabled the "ld.so.conf.d" stuff before I did > xorg, and I didn't have to re-add the X11 lib path. I did, however have to > add xfs back (chkconfig --add xfs). > > Along with xorg, I updated approximately 300 other packages, so this may > or may not have anything to do with xorg. Anyways, when I rebooted, I went > through the normal re-compiling of the nvidia kernel module (I think > "nvidia-installer -f -K") .. and when I did a "startx" it went to a black > screen and just sat there.. couldn't even ping the box anymore.. so I > reset.. and it hung again during RHGB.. so I turned that off and it hung > when it tried to go to init 5... so I booted to the non-smp kernel (cause > it wouldn't have the nvidia driver and would nicely fail).. and changed my > XF86Config to use the "nv" driver... now X starts, but GDM is still hosed. > I get a black screen with an "X" cursor.. if I move the mouse or touch the > keyboard gdm crashes, and comes up to a blue screen saying stuff about how > there is already an X server running.. bla bla bla.. X didn't crash.. its > still there in F7 .. so.. I killed that off and ran startx manually .. and > that seems to work.. ofcourse minus the login screen (gdm) and the dual > head (TwinView) .. since I never logout, I could really care less about > GDM, but if someone has a tip on getting nvidia to work, I would be > greateful :) > > [root at cookies root]# rpm -qa | grep xorg > xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-twm-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-sdk-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-xauth-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-devel-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-font-utils-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-base-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-tools-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-xdm-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-doc-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-syriac-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-libs-data-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-xfs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-Xnest-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-libs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-Xvfb-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-truetype-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > [root at cookies root]# uname -a > Linux cookies.central.sun.com 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 #1 Fri Mar 12 14:01:55 EST 2004 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux > [root at cookies root]# rpm -q kernel-smp > kernel-smp-2.6.1-1.65 > kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.242 > kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253 > kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 > [root at cookies root]# > > all updates as of (NOW) :) > > 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4600] (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) > Subsystem: VISIONTEK: Unknown device 0037 > Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 > Memory at 52000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) > Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] > Memory at c8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K] > Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 > Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0 > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1.run > > > > Thanks in advance, > Tommy From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed Mar 24 03:01:09 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:01:09 -0500 Subject: Bug Buddy or Bugzilla submissions Message-ID: <4060F9F5.9050802@insight.rr.com> I recently had two episodes that apps or applets have crashed. After the crashing of the app(let), bug buddy launched and I submitted a report via bugzilla. I also added the person responsible for the package at redhat to he report as a cc. Is this enough? Or should I have saved the report to disk and submitted a report into bugzilla. One of the bugs for a system, that was installed fresh from rawhide (development) on the 17th and then upgraded to rawhide on the 19th, was that right clicking on the clock-applet and selecting properties would cause bug buddy to come up, followed by a question to restart the applet. What I was trying to do to the clock applet was to change it to 12 hr format and to check the date to be present within the applet. Is this problem present for anyone else? I didn't set the properties ahead of time on the 17th or 18th. I was wondering if the forked xorg-x11 added this bug or if this bug is just present on a system upgraded in the maner that I have chosen. SELinux was off when I tried to set the clock applet. I forgot already as to what the other bug buddy duty call was for. I see how easily bugs not submitted can be forgotten. :-) Jim -- Stay away from hurricanes for a while. From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Mar 24 03:16:30 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:16:30 -0600 Subject: To: Field Message-ID: <1080098190.16047.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Just checking to see what the To: field has when I send this email. *My* to: field has "Fedora Beta" and wanted to see if it is changed to something else. If it does, then not sure I like that. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Mar 24 03:21:51 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:21:51 -0600 Subject: To: Field In-Reply-To: <1080098190.16047.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1080098190.16047.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1080098511.16047.3.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 21:16, Mike Chambers wrote: > Just checking to see what the To: field has when I send this email. > *My* to: field has "Fedora Beta" and wanted to see if it is changed to > something else. Ok, I see what it's doing. The reply to is set one way, and the To: field is set as before. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From deji_aking at yahoo.ca Wed Mar 24 03:52:13 2004 From: deji_aking at yahoo.ca (Deji Akingunola) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:52:13 -0500 Subject: Bug Buddy or Bugzilla submissions In-Reply-To: <4060F9F5.9050802@insight.rr.com> References: <4060F9F5.9050802@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1080100332.3361.6.camel@rhema> On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 22:01, Jim Cornette wrote: > What I was trying to do to the clock applet was to change it to 12 hr > format and to check the date to be present within the applet. > > Is this problem present for anyone else? I didn't set the properties > ahead of time on the 17th or 18th. I encountered the same crash, and i use bug-buddy to fill the bug with GNOME bugzilla; below is an excerpt of the response to the bugzilla report. + +------- Additional Comments From vincent at vuntz.net 2004-03-20 03:56 ------- +Thanks. The bug is already fixed in the latest release. + +*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 136721 *** Deji > From spam at tachegroup.com Wed Mar 24 04:18:56 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:18:56 -0500 Subject: MD5 Signatures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Finally just trashed my whole mirror, and redid it, now is fine. on 3/22/2004 12:10 AM, TGS at spam at tachegroup.com wrote: > Spook too soon, seemed to help with a few rpm, but I still have 1376 that > are not valid sigs. > > on 3/21/2004 7:36 PM, TGS at spam at tachegroup.com wrote: > >> Yes I did, but I had to do this to get it working. Now this is after a stock >> install of FC2 test. >> >> rpm --import /usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora* >> >> >> on 3/21/2004 6:00 PM, William Hooper at whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net wrote: >> >>> >>> TGS said: >>>> so the keys are okay on my system. So why are the rpm incorrect? >>> >>> Looks to me that you don't have the fedora-test key installed. >> > From mdg149 at rcn.com Wed Mar 24 04:45:51 2004 From: mdg149 at rcn.com (Matt Graham) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:45:51 -0500 Subject: hd install without floppy or cdrom In-Reply-To: <20040322073156.GK20103@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <1079940260.1386.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040322073156.GK20103@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <4061127F.5030301@rcn.com> Charles R. Anderson wrote: >On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:24:21AM +0200, Antti wrote: > > >>So, the subject says it all. Is this possible and where can I find >>instructions? Obviously my problem is that core 2 doesn't have a boot >>floppy image 'couse the kernel won't fit in it. >> >> > >Stick isolinux/initrd.img and isolinux/vmlinuz in /boot and add to >/etc/grub.conf. Of course, this assumes the system you want to >install/upgrade already has grub on it. > > There are a bunch of other files in the isolinux directory in the isolinux folder on the CD. A lot of files w/ .msg extensions. Do they need to be copied too? From fedora-test at eaglescrag.net Wed Mar 24 04:52:02 2004 From: fedora-test at eaglescrag.net (J.H.) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:52:02 -0600 Subject: More on Reboot on Resume (was problem with Suspending) Message-ID: <1080103917.1989.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hey, This is what I have been able to find / figure out on the problem of a reboot occuring after the system tries to resume from an apm -s. Upon resume with a 2.6.x kernel you get two possible outcomes: 1) the system just sits there but powered on instead of suspended (nothing responds, but the hard drive spins, pcmcia cards are powered, etc) 2) a reboot happens on the latter the reboot seems to happen AFTER the system is back into a running state (if you apm -s from a pure console window, no X on the screen at all) the console window becomes momentarily visable, and THEN reboots. Until recently I was able to circumvent this with a re- compiled redhat 7.3 2.4.18 kernel (it's bailing on init now) but on THAT the system suspended and resumed just fine. This might be a kernel level problem as well as a vanilla 2.4.2-mm1 kernel does the same thing as 1) above. Anyone have ANY ideas on how to rectify this, this is really starting to annoy me :-( - John H. From zleite at mminternet.com Wed Mar 24 04:57:26 2004 From: zleite at mminternet.com (Z) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:57:26 -0800 Subject: HOWTO for a simple install of Cyrus In-Reply-To: <20040322024045.GF9401@hallucination.phil-anderson.com> References: <1079957795.2746.18.camel@niobe> <405E04EA.7000204@skmoore.com> <20040322024045.GF9401@hallucination.phil-anderson.com> Message-ID: <1080104246.3458.6.camel@z> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 18:40, Phil Anderson wrote: > We updated from uwimap to dovecot, as dovecot uses mbox format by > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 07:03:22PM -0500, Tom Diehl wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Stephen Moore wrote: > > > > > How do you convert old uwimap mailboxes to cyrus? I have wanted to move > > > off uwimap for a while for performance reasons but always been too slack > > > to figure this out. > > > > Does cyrus use some kind of non-standard mailbox format?? If it does it is > > crap and should not be used. uw-imap for all of its warts at least uses a > > standard mailbox format called mbox. > > > > Tom There's no standard for mailboxes. Cyrus is actually pretty good and robust. It separates mailboxes from home directories, and that increases a lot the security. It runs in blackbox mode, so users don't need homes nor entries in the passwd file. It's big and complex though, but for a large site it can be the best fit. From smearp at mac.com Wed Mar 24 04:59:34 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:59:34 -0800 Subject: system-config-packages problems Message-ID: <406115B6.8050403@mac.com> Hello All, A couple of quick questions about system-config-packages... First of all, the version that comes installed FC2 Test 1 is system-config-packages-1.9.3-2.1 yet the latest version in rawhide is system-config-packages-1.2.10-1. I am guessing that the version 1.9 is numbered erroneously (as all previous releases were in the 1.2 tree), but since it is labled as a later version than the current one; up2date, yum, and rpm will not install the current version (without manually specifying --oldpackage). Is this an error that needs to be fixed? Secondly, can anyone at all make system-config-packages add an additional package that was not originally installed during the initial setup? Bugs 116920, 118852, 115630, and 118517 all basically boil down to the same problem, and that is that system-config-packages simply errors out after selecting a package to add. This occurs in both 1.9.3-2.1 and 1.2.10-1 Any feedback (confirming that I'm not crazy... or perhaps that I am) would be much appreciated. Thanks, -Sean :) From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Mar 24 05:03:58 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:03:58 -0500 Subject: system-config-packages problems In-Reply-To: <406115B6.8050403@mac.com> References: <406115B6.8050403@mac.com> Message-ID: <1080104637.12459.38.camel@binkley> > A couple of quick questions about system-config-packages... > > First of all, the version that comes installed FC2 Test 1 is > system-config-packages-1.9.3-2.1 yet the latest version in rawhide is > system-config-packages-1.2.10-1. I am guessing that the version 1.9 > is numbered erroneously (as all previous releases were in the 1.2 tree), > but since it is labled as a later version than the current one; up2date, > yum, and rpm will not install the current version (without manually > specifying --oldpackage). Is this an error that needs to be fixed? > > Secondly, can anyone at all make system-config-packages add an > additional package that was not originally installed during the initial > setup? Bugs 116920, 118852, 115630, and 118517 all basically boil down > to the same problem, and that is that system-config-packages simply > errors out after selecting a package to add. This occurs in both > 1.9.3-2.1 and 1.2.10-1 To be honest, after the next major release of yum I'd like to see system-config-packages be a gui on top of yum. I think it would be a good fit and I've been working on the yum HEAD branch to make that possible. still a fair bit of work to go but it's a goal I'd like to reach. -sv From reader at newsguy.com Wed Mar 24 05:05:21 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:05:21 -0600 Subject: sound adventures are a non starter Message-ID: [Waring.. lots of output below] I haven't used sound for a very long time, but decided to try it out for some video/audio editing I need to do. I can't get any sound but It seems my card is detected: This is an earlier p4 with onboard sound by way of: SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio ac97 intel compatable I'm running kde-3.2 desktop on core2 t1 kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 Dmesg's from a fresh boot up don't show anything I recognize about sound. However running `system-config-soundcard' finds: Vendor: Intel Corp Model: 8801BA/BAM AC/'97 Audio Module: snd-intel8x0 And having run system-config-soundcard inserts these modules: snd_mixer_oss 16896 0 snd_intel8x0 34088 0 snd_ac97_codec 56712 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm 97288 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_timer 29828 1 snd_pcm gameport 5504 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_page_alloc 11780 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm snd_mpu401_uart 9216 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_rawmidi 26528 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 8456 1 snd_rawmidi snd 50532 8 snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pc m,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 10336 1 snd But clicking on the `test sound' button has an interesting effect: syslog prints (sorry for the verbosity): Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<23a58e21>] snd_card_free+0x138/0x18a [snd] Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<02182686>] dput+0x18/0x4de Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<23a8515a>] snd_intel8x0_remove+0x13/0x1c [snd_ intel8x0] Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<02258c5e>] pci_device_remove+0x16/0x28 Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<022a0f78>] device_release_driver+0x3c/0x46 Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<022a0f9a>] driver_detach+0x18/0x26 Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<022a1169>] bus_remove_driver+0x37/0x64 Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<022a1473>] driver_unregister+0xc/0x2a Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<02258dba>] pci_unregister_driver+0xb/0x13 Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<23a85326>] alsa_card_intel8x0_exit+0xa/0x1e [s nd_intel8x0] Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<0213edf8>] sys_delete_module+0xfe/0x11e Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<0215a7d7>] unmap_vma_list+0xe/0x17 Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: [<0215ace8>] do_munmap+0x1dc/0x1e6 Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: Mar 23 22:42:27 reader kernel: Code: 0f 0b 98 02 7e f3 36 02 8b 47 40 85 c0 75 0 9 89 f8 e8 12 ff No sound plays and control of the dialog is lost. That is, it never returns to user. Clicking on the upper right [X] (kill) finally brings up a dialog that allows user to kill system-config-soundcard. I'm sort of lost as to where to go from here... I'm not used to even worrying about sound. /etc/modprobe.conf contains these lines: alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && /bin/aumix- minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : Trying to look at aumix from a root terminal hangs the terminal at: # aumix ^C or ^D will not break it loose From smearp at mac.com Wed Mar 24 05:12:32 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:12:32 -0800 Subject: gnome Thems Message-ID: <406118C0.9060103@mac.com> Hello All- I would just like to check if the problem I am having with Gnome Themes is JUST ME or a problem that needs to be fixed. When changing to ANY theme other than Blue Curve (via Fedora Menu --> Preferences --> Theme), I get the following error message: "Failed to load image redhat-email.png Details: Failed to open file '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/redhat-email.png': No such file or directory" When I go and look, the file is there, although it is highlighted in red (?!?!?!?!). Do I just have a corrupt image problem, or is this a FC2 problem that needs to be fixed? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Sean From smearp at mac.com Wed Mar 24 05:13:31 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:13:31 -0800 Subject: gnome Themes In-Reply-To: <406118C0.9060103@mac.com> References: <406118C0.9060103@mac.com> Message-ID: <406118FB.5090900@mac.com> Alright, I spelled the subject line wrong... I have fixed it now ;) -Sean Sean Earp wrote: > Hello All- > > I would just like to check if the problem I am having with Gnome > Themes is JUST ME or a problem that needs to be fixed. > > When changing to ANY theme other than Blue Curve (via Fedora Menu --> > Preferences --> Theme), I get the following error message: > > "Failed to load image redhat-email.png > > Details: Failed to open file > '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/redhat-email.png': No such file > or directory" > > When I go and look, the file is there, although it is highlighted in > red (?!?!?!?!). Do I just have a corrupt image problem, or is this a > FC2 problem that needs to be fixed? Any info would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks, > > -Sean > > From smearp at mac.com Wed Mar 24 05:18:07 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:18:07 -0800 Subject: gnome Themes In-Reply-To: <406118FB.5090900@mac.com> References: <406118C0.9060103@mac.com> <406118FB.5090900@mac.com> Message-ID: <40611A0F.7020900@mac.com> Back again... To (partly) answer my own question, redhat-email.png is itself a link to: /usr/share/evolution/1.4/glade/evolution.png Since FC2 Test 1 does not have evolution 1.4, this is obviously why it can not find the file. Should this be fixed once FC2 reverts back to Evolution 1.4? Is there a timeline for the regression? -Sean Sean Earp wrote: > Alright, I spelled the subject line wrong... I have fixed it now ;) > > -Sean > > Sean Earp wrote: > >> Hello All- >> >> I would just like to check if the problem I am having with Gnome >> Themes is JUST ME or a problem that needs to be fixed. >> >> When changing to ANY theme other than Blue Curve (via Fedora Menu --> >> Preferences --> Theme), I get the following error message: >> >> "Failed to load image redhat-email.png >> >> Details: Failed to open file >> '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/redhat-email.png': No such file >> or directory" >> >> When I go and look, the file is there, although it is highlighted in >> red (?!?!?!?!). Do I just have a corrupt image problem, or is this >> a FC2 problem that needs to be fixed? Any info would be greatly >> appreciated. Thanks, >> >> -Sean > From spam at tachegroup.com Wed Mar 24 05:38:12 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:38:12 -0500 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: <1080017759.6756.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Not sure that this will help, but I had to do the following to get past the black screen and the hung rhgb boot process. 1 - add in the /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf 2 - do a ldconfig -v 3 - trash all in tmp, including all the .* files and directories 4 - do a chkconfig xfs on 5 - boot without the rhgb kernel option, 6 - reboot again and it all worked. Thanks to all that provided those tidbits in a few posts. on 3/22/2004 11:56 PM, Maynard Kuona at knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 20:57 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: >> Jim Shepherd wrote: >>> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 20:17 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: >>> >>> >>>> This is a shot in the dark. I cleared the /tmp directory out of all >>>> lingering files, Then I rebooted and the problems went away, X now starts. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Completely cleared out my /tmp and /var/tmp directories and still get >>> the same error. >>> >>> >>>> Looking at your XFree error file, you have similar computer specs as I >>>> have. 810 video anyway. Here is what the video section looks like. It >>>> seems to be working alright. >>>> >>> >>> >>> My Screen section seems to be set up exactly like yours, except you seem >>> to have an i815 while I seem to have an i810. What modules are you >>> loading in the Modules section? >>> >>> -Jim >>> >>> >> >> This excerpt is from XF86Config. My card is an 815 and didn't work with >> several distributions, but seems to work with RH or Fedora. >> (800 MHz P III) >> >> I was worried that it stopped working with xorg originally. >> >> Have you tried running system-config-display to try to get x working? >> There might be documentation on dumping system-config-xfree86, but I >> didn't realize it until after X wouldn't start. >> My file was generated by system-config-display as root user. >> >> Jim C. >> >> >> Section "Module" >> Load "dbe" >> Load "extmod" >> Load "fbdevhw" >> Load "glx" >> Load "record" >> Load "freetype" >> Load "type1" >> Load "dri" >> EndSection >> >> > Also, xorg supports running without XF86config. I used this to fix mine > after it wouldn't find my fonts. Although it was running at limited > resolution. > From yonasb at netzero.com Wed Mar 24 05:39:31 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonas abraham) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:39:31 -0500 Subject: KDE lib problem Message-ID: <40611F13.505@netzero.com> I was waiting to see if other ppl have the same problem, but i guess it is only me. After I did yum update around March 18th, I can't be able to run any KDE application. For example I get the ff error msg when i try to run kspread from command line. kspread: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9QComboBox4hideEv this sounds like it try to link to an older or newer lib file. I did yum remove kde* and did yum install kde* but the library reference problem is still there. I try to install kde from source code using konstract in to a local dir and all of the new one work perfectly. any idea how to fix it? --yonas From spam at tachegroup.com Wed Mar 24 06:22:25 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:22:25 -0500 Subject: hmmmm, now what - radeon and xorg configuration Message-ID: So now I am up and running with xorg, but I have a few questions. I am using the Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) and want to actually use the card, and not just the VESA driver. So, what do I use to configure xorg? Do I use systen-display-config as usual? I say that since it seems odd that the configuration file used to drive xorg would still be XF86Config. Where do I find out what drivers are supported in the release> I am looking and looking, but cannot find docs on the sparse xorg site. From farnik at internode.on.net Wed Mar 24 06:56:33 2004 From: farnik at internode.on.net (K,N,D Farnik) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:26:33 +1030 Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00f401c4116d$25161c50$0101010a@whitestar> Hi Looking forward to your solution! Thanks, Kym >M A Young writes: > Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2004 21:23 > On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Janusz Sadowski wrote: > > > It looks like it's a kernel thing. One guy says he switched > to kernel 2.6 on > > SUSE9.0 and got the same error. > > The problem seems to be when oracle does a particular shmget call > shmget(IPC_PRIVATE, some number, IPC_CREAT|IPC_EXCL|IPC_NOWAIT|0600) > to sort out its shared memory. In 2.6 it seems you need extra kernel > capabilities for this to work (I think CAP_IPC_LOCK). > > I do have a way around this, but it is too much of a bad idea > to share at > the moment. The correct solution would be to find some way of granting > this extra capability to the oracle user or appropriate > executables, which > you might be able to do with selinux, and I have an idea of > how it might > be done more safely without selinux. From mharris at redhat.com Wed Mar 24 07:22:54 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 02:22:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: MrProject vs. "Planner" In-Reply-To: <20040323132826.06120a75@ekolaptis.> References: <405FCED8.2050306@mines.edu> <1080030334.29202.1225.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040323132826.06120a75@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Dimitrios wrote: >> If anyone knows for sure on >> > this maybe MrProject should be replaced with Planner in rawhide? >> >> Yes. That is the plan. We haven't gotten to it yet though. > >That is correct. MrProject was replaced by Planner. Essentialy its the >same project, but the authors had to change its name at some point >when, i think, they moved from one job to another. > >Probably their old job claimed "MrProject" was copyrighted under their >own company because the project was developed while they worked for them. IANAL, but to the best of my knowledge, you can not copyright the name of a piece of software, although you can trademark it. I don't know if that particular piece of software's name is trademarked however, and well... IANAL. ;o) -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Wed Mar 24 07:30:11 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 02:30:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: hmmmm, now what - radeon and xorg configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, TGS wrote: >So now I am up and running with xorg, but I have a few >questions. I am using the Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) and want to >actually use the card, and not just the VESA driver. Edit the config file by hand for now, and change it to use the "radeon" driver. This will be automatic in a future update of the hwdata package for FC2. >So, what do I use to configure xorg? Do I use >systen-display-config as usual? Yes. >I say that since it seems odd that the configuration file used >to drive xorg would still be XF86Config. Xorg is under development, it is not a final release. The mass renaming of s/XFree86/Xorg/ has not yet occurred in the mail branch of CVS, however it will in the next while sometime. That will be a post FC2test2 change. >Where do I find out what drivers are supported in the release> I >am looking and looking, but cannot find docs on the sparse xorg >site. There is no official list anywhere yet. Use the XFree86 4.4.0 hardware support page as a reasonable guide, since Xorg X11 is based upon 4.4.0. Note that the XFree86 docs themselves are not usually 100% accurate and up to date. There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Wed Mar 24 08:15:13 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:15:13 +0100 Subject: Core 2 test 1 iso's for AMD 64? In-Reply-To: <200403221325.13674.czar@czarc.net> References: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> <200403221325.13674.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080116113.5177.17.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 22.03.2004 schrieb Gene C. um 19:25: > On Monday 22 March 2004 13:10, Peter Boy wrote: > > If I remember correctly, someone made unofficially a set of iso's of > > core 2 test 1 available, compiled for AMD 64. Unfortunately I can't find > > the message. Can someone give me a link? > > I believe this was originally planned but was cancelled since Test2 (which > would have x86_64 iso's from the start) was to happen "real soon". Well, let's wait until next week ... I did an installation of core 1, but unfortunately the onboard LAN controller (Realtek 8201) is not supported. So it is basically useless. I can't even use yum to upgrade :-) Thanks to all for the information. Peter From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Wed Mar 24 08:13:48 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:13:48 +0100 Subject: Rhythmbox and mp3 In-Reply-To: <1080084801.8832.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080084801.8832.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040324091348.5b053a60.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:33:21 +0200, Maynard Kuona wrote: > In the interests of those who want to be able to play mp3s, I would like > to suggest that Rhythmbox be built without disabling mp3. I notice in > one srpm that it has --disable-mp3. I am sure just enabling it and not > shipping the gstreamer-mp3 or equivalent should be adequate for IP > concerns. This way people can track the official repository and not have > to get rhythmob from third parties. Is rhythmbox built with id3lib? Does it recognize mp3 files when built without id3lib? In earlier releases it did not and had to be replaced with a rebuilt version (and not just with gstreamer-plugins-mp3 added). id3lib is included in fedora.us as an extra package. -- From julius at solutions-i.org Wed Mar 24 08:27:10 2004 From: julius at solutions-i.org (julius at solutions-i.org) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 03:27:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: xfs undefined symbol _FontTransNoListen Message-ID: <2056.193.230.175.122.1080116830.squirrel@hunor.net> Hi all, I have updated all packages from the development directory, but now i get the following on /etc/init.d/xfs start Starting xfs: xfs: error while loading shared libraries: xfs: undefined symbol: _FontTransNoListen rpm -qa | grep xfs returns xorg-x11-xfs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 xfsprogs-2.6.0-4.1 xfsprogs-devel-2.6.0-4.1 Is there something that i don't have updated? or this is a bug in xfs? Thanks a lot, Julius From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 23 21:55:15 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:55:15 -0500 Subject: Core 2 test 1 iso's for AMD 64? In-Reply-To: <1080076624.18949.1570.camel@www.piet.net> References: <1079979017.5171.3.camel@littlePiet> <20040322204823.GE1389@comcast.net> <1080076624.18949.1570.camel@www.piet.net> Message-ID: <200403231655.15888.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 23 March 2004 16:17, Piet Delaney wrote: > Is > http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/distributions/fedora-devel/x86_64 > > a good source for the current devel tree? My guess is no (unfortunately). The problem is that images/bootiso and Fedora/base/* files are dataed 17 March while Fedora/RPMS/* files are dated 21 March. When I did something similar I found that the hdlist did not match the packages available and the install went nowhere. -- Gene From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Wed Mar 24 10:24:54 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:24:54 +0200 Subject: Rhythmbox and mp3 In-Reply-To: <20040324091348.5b053a60.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <1080084801.8832.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040324091348.5b053a60.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1080123894.8832.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 10:13, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:33:21 +0200, Maynard Kuona wrote: > > > In the interests of those who want to be able to play mp3s, I would like > > to suggest that Rhythmbox be built without disabling mp3. I notice in > > one srpm that it has --disable-mp3. I am sure just enabling it and not > > shipping the gstreamer-mp3 or equivalent should be adequate for IP > > concerns. This way people can track the official repository and not have > > to get rhythmob from third parties. > > Is rhythmbox built with id3lib? > Does it recognize mp3 files when built without id3lib? > > In earlier releases it did not and had to be replaced with a rebuilt > version (and not just with gstreamer-plugins-mp3 added). id3lib is > included in fedora.us as an extra package. > > -- The problem is that rhythmbox will not be able to load mp3s into its database if it is not built with id3lib, and according to the src.rpm file I downloaded from download.fedora.redhat.com yesterday, it is not built with id3lib and it is in the configure section of the spec file it has --disable-mp3. From linuxnow at newtral.org Wed Mar 24 10:30:16 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:30:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: any x86_64 mirror up to date? Message-ID: I've been trying to "yum update" my x86_64 development laptop for a couple of weeks to no luck. I have 15 mirrors in the configuration file. Does anybody know if there's an updated mirror? I've had a look at most of them and haven't found any. Thanks Pau From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Wed Mar 24 10:35:19 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:35:19 +0200 Subject: xorg + nvidia = bad news In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080124519.8832.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 04:45, Tommy McNeely wrote: > Followup to my own post :) > > I switched back to kernel 2.6.1 (listed below) and the kudzu hangs.. but I > went interactive, skipped kudzu.. recompiled my kernel module for 2.6.1 > and voila :) I am back to using my fancy closed source video driver.. > looks like 2.6.3 is what made it unhappy, not xorg > > HOWEVER! gdm is still fscked :) > > tommy > > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:31:03 -0700, Tommy McNeely wrote: > > > Well, > > > > I finally trashed up2date.. the "some sort of I/O error occurred, not a > > gzip'd file" was getting really old.. yum, however, seems to work just > > fine (although it takes a fricken eternity to download the headers the > > first time). I followed the various people's steps to get xorg installed > > on FC2t1. it worked.. I even enabled the "ld.so.conf.d" stuff before I did > > xorg, and I didn't have to re-add the X11 lib path. I did, however have to > > add xfs back (chkconfig --add xfs). > > > > Along with xorg, I updated approximately 300 other packages, so this may > > or may not have anything to do with xorg. Anyways, when I rebooted, I went > > through the normal re-compiling of the nvidia kernel module (I think > > "nvidia-installer -f -K") .. and when I did a "startx" it went to a black > > screen and just sat there.. couldn't even ping the box anymore.. so I > > reset.. and it hung again during RHGB.. so I turned that off and it hung > > when it tried to go to init 5... so I booted to the non-smp kernel (cause > > it wouldn't have the nvidia driver and would nicely fail).. and changed my > > XF86Config to use the "nv" driver... now X starts, but GDM is still hosed. > > I get a black screen with an "X" cursor.. if I move the mouse or touch the > > keyboard gdm crashes, and comes up to a blue screen saying stuff about how > > there is already an X server running.. bla bla bla.. X didn't crash.. its > > still there in F7 .. so.. I killed that off and ran startx manually .. and > > that seems to work.. ofcourse minus the login screen (gdm) and the dual > > head (TwinView) .. since I never logout, I could really care less about > > GDM, but if someone has a tip on getting nvidia to work, I would be > > greateful :) > > > > [root at cookies root]# rpm -qa | grep xorg > > xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-twm-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-sdk-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-xauth-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-devel-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-font-utils-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-base-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-tools-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-xdm-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-doc-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-syriac-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-75dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-libs-data-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-xfs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-Xnest-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-libs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-Xvfb-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-truetype-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 > > [root at cookies root]# uname -a > > Linux cookies.central.sun.com 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 #1 Fri Mar 12 14:01:55 EST 2004 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux > > [root at cookies root]# rpm -q kernel-smp > > kernel-smp-2.6.1-1.65 > > kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.242 > > kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253 > > kernel-smp-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 > > [root at cookies root]# > > > > all updates as of (NOW) :) > > > > 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4600] (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) > > Subsystem: VISIONTEK: Unknown device 0037 > > Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 > > Memory at 52000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) > > Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] > > Memory at c8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K] > > Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 > > Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0 > > > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1.run > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Tommy > > It is something about xorg which I had issues with. You need to change your font path in XF86Config. I have attached my XF86Config for you. I noticed that when I removed XF86Config, gdm started properly. I have an NVidia card, so it should work well for you too. The old font path which was "unix/:7100" doesn't seem to work too well. I got my font path from the X server logs. -------------- next part -------------- # XFree86 4 configuration created by system-config-display Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "single head configuration" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" # Load "dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option "XkbDisable" # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # or: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" # Or if you just want both to be control, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" # Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then # this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you # also use USB mice at the same time. Identifier "DevInputMice" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "JD177" DisplaySize 320 240 HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" # Driver "nv" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic)" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Wed Mar 24 10:51:46 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:51:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <00f401c4116d$25161c50$0101010a@whitestar> References: <00f401c4116d$25161c50$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, K,N,D Farnik wrote: > Looking forward to your solution! Unfortunately the solution I was hoping to use relies on file capability support, which it seems no-one has got around to implementing yet. The good news is that it looks like there are moves to forward port a kernel patch in RHEL3 to 2.6 which avoids the problem, see http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=107957672600001&r=1&w=2 The hack solution which is a bad idea for lots of reasons is to make ${ORACLE_HOME}/bin/oracle setuid root. This basically seems to work, though is likely to cause problems, is a big security risk, invalidates your waranty, etc... so don't try it on anything but test systems you can afford to rebuild completely if things go wrong. Michael Young > >M A Young writes: > > The problem seems to be when oracle does a particular shmget call > > shmget(IPC_PRIVATE, some number, IPC_CREAT|IPC_EXCL|IPC_NOWAIT|0600) > > to sort out its shared memory. In 2.6 it seems you need extra kernel > > capabilities for this to work (I think CAP_IPC_LOCK). > > > > I do have a way around this, but it is too much of a bad idea > > to share at > > the moment. The correct solution would be to find some way of granting > > this extra capability to the oracle user or appropriate > > executables, which > > you might be able to do with selinux, and I have an idea of > > how it might > > be done more safely without selinux. From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Wed Mar 24 10:58:36 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:58:36 +0200 Subject: gnome Themes In-Reply-To: <40611A0F.7020900@mac.com> References: <406118C0.9060103@mac.com> <406118FB.5090900@mac.com> <40611A0F.7020900@mac.com> Message-ID: <1080125916.8832.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 07:18, Sean Earp wrote: > Back again... > > To (partly) answer my own question, redhat-email.png is itself a link > to: /usr/share/evolution/1.4/glade/evolution.png Since FC2 Test 1 > does not have evolution 1.4, this is obviously why it can not find the > file. Should this be fixed once FC2 reverts back to Evolution 1.4? Is > there a timeline for the regression? > Evolution 1.4.6 is already there. You have to downgrade a few packages though. Some step I took to do this are. 1. apt-get remove evolution-data-server - this removes evolution as well 2. apt-get install evolution - this will fail. But it will show you the problem packages. You need to install a few packages, and downgrade a few of those. Just apt-get install/remove them, and then when you are done. 3. apt-get install evolution - this will install the correct versions. At this point, you may have removed other gnome packages, you will have to add these manually later. ahh, the perils of running beta distros. From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Wed Mar 24 11:11:06 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:11:06 +0100 Subject: Rhythmbox and mp3 In-Reply-To: <1080123894.8832.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080084801.8832.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040324091348.5b053a60.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> <1080123894.8832.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040324121106.3786c49a.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:24:54 +0200, Maynard Kuona wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 10:13, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:33:21 +0200, Maynard Kuona wrote: > > > > > In the interests of those who want to be able to play mp3s, I would like > > > to suggest that Rhythmbox be built without disabling mp3. I notice in > > > one srpm that it has --disable-mp3. I am sure just enabling it and not > > > shipping the gstreamer-mp3 or equivalent should be adequate for IP > > > concerns. This way people can track the official repository and not have > > > to get rhythmob from third parties. > > > > Is rhythmbox built with id3lib? > > Does it recognize mp3 files when built without id3lib? > > > > In earlier releases it did not and had to be replaced with a rebuilt > > version (and not just with gstreamer-plugins-mp3 added). id3lib is > > included in fedora.us as an extra package. > > > > -- > The problem is that rhythmbox will not be able to load mp3s into its > database if it is not built with id3lib, and according to the src.rpm > file I downloaded from download.fedora.redhat.com yesterday, it is not > built with id3lib and it is in the configure section of the spec file it > has --disable-mp3. libid3tag (not id3lib) is not included within Fedora Core. It would need to be included before rhythmbox could be built with id3 support. Only then adding mp3 support would be as easy as installing a gstreamer plugin from some add-on site. Side-note: id3lib (the other library) is also useful for FLAC, e.g. k3b uses it for its FLAC plug-in. Both can be found at fedora.us -- From laurent at guerby.net Wed Mar 24 11:46:14 2004 From: laurent at guerby.net (Laurent GUERBY) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:46:14 +0100 Subject: hmmmm, now what - radeon and xorg configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080128774.27851.101.camel@pc> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote: > There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list > anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge. Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers (no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the hardware? I hope the list is not empty... Laurent From mr700 at globalnet.bg Wed Mar 24 12:49:24 2004 From: mr700 at globalnet.bg (Doncho N. Gunchev) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:49:24 +0200 Subject: xorg + nvidia = bad news In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403241449.24746@-mr700> On Wednesday 24 March 2004 04:45, Tommy McNeely wrote: > Followup to my own post :) > > I switched back to kernel 2.6.1 (listed below) and the kudzu hangs.. but I > went interactive, skipped kudzu.. recompiled my kernel module for 2.6.1 > and voila :) I am back to using my fancy closed source video driver.. > looks like 2.6.3 is what made it unhappy, not xorg > 2.6.4 does not work with nvidia driver too. AFAIK there's a discussion about this problem on the nvidia forum. Hope they fix it soon. -- Regards, Doncho N. Gunchev Registered Linux User #291323 at counter.li.org GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/DA454F79 Key fingerprint = 684F 688B C508 C609 0371 5E0F A089 CB15 DA45 4F79 From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 24 13:03:14 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:03:14 -0500 Subject: kget broken (still!) Message-ID: For quite a while, kget is broken for me. It always (repeatably) works exactly once. Then if it's used a 2nd time, it just sits there doing nothing. If I try to delete the download it will hang and need to be killed. If it's restarted it works again (once). This never happened with kget I built from konstruct. Anyone else see this problem? (already bugzilla'd, some time ago) From dennis at ausil.us Wed Mar 24 13:10:12 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:10:12 +1000 Subject: kget broken (still!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403242310.19455.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Wednesday 24 March 2004 11:03 pm, Neal D. Becker wrote: > For quite a while, kget is broken for me. It always (repeatably) works > exactly once. Then if it's used a 2nd time, it just sits there doing > nothing. If I try to delete the download it will hang and need to be > killed. If it's restarted it works again (once). > > This never happened with kget I built from konstruct. > > Anyone else see this problem? (already bugzilla'd, some time ago) Yes i have had this happen. it has also happened with kde 3.2.1 on FC1 but much less frequently Dennis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Wed Mar 24 14:24:55 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:24:55 +0200 Subject: hmmmm, now what - radeon and xorg configuration In-Reply-To: <1080128774.27851.101.camel@pc> References: <1080128774.27851.101.camel@pc> Message-ID: <200403241624.55551.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Laurent GUERBY kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika keskiviikko, 24. maaliskuuta 2004 13:46): > On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support > > list anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge. > > Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open > source drivers (no binary thanks) that support at least some > of the 3D features of the hardware? http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/dri_driver_features.phtml http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Status -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From alan at redhat.com Wed Mar 24 15:16:26 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:16:26 -0500 Subject: hmmmm, now what - radeon and xorg configuration In-Reply-To: <1080128774.27851.101.camel@pc> References: <1080128774.27851.101.camel@pc> Message-ID: <20040324151626.GB16841@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:46:14PM +0100, Laurent GUERBY wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list > > anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge. > > Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers > (no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the > hardware? I hope the list is not empty... Intel have pretty good support for their chipsets and are one vendor who generally fund this stuff for their bits. VIA provided the original 3D code for the CLE266 which is now supported (FC2t lacks some oddments). 3DFx Voodoo 3+ work well (except on FC2t right now but thats hopefully going to sort out). Some radeons (7xxx,9000,9100 but not the high end ones), and also rage 128 work well. From wolters.liste at gmx.net Wed Mar 24 15:21:55 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:21:55 +0100 Subject: Foreign alphabets In-Reply-To: <200403240134.52990.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200403240134.52990.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200403241621.55219.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Roland Wolters wrote: > Hi, > when I open the site > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Multilingual_coordination#Encycloped >ia_projects some alphabets are not displayed correct - for example hindi, > arabic, urdu, tamil, ... Some alphabets depend on some packages, like arabic-fonts - I forgot to install them, but there are some languages left, which are not displayed - will have a deeper look into google. If someone knows how to add all known alphabets, please contact me. Roland From fcosta_nery at yahoo.com.br Wed Mar 24 15:24:19 2004 From: fcosta_nery at yahoo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?fabio=20nery?=) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:24:19 -0300 (ART) Subject: problem in install Fedora Core 1 Message-ID: <20040324152419.12119.qmail@web20729.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Friends, I am with the following problem during the installation of the Fedora Core 1 : Exception Occurred An unhandled exception has occurred. This is most likely a bug. Please copy the full text of this exception or save the crash dump to a floppy then file a detailed bug report against anaconda at http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/. Traceback (most recent call last): File :/usr/bin/anaconda", line 1120, in ? intf.run(id, dispatch, configFileData) File"/usr/lib/anaconda/text.py", line 451, in run rc = apply(win, (self,screen, ) + args) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/textw/confirm_text.py", line 65, in __call__ sys.exit(0) NameError: global name 'sys' is not defined OK Save Debug How I can decide this problem? Thank you. Fabio Costa Nery --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail - O melhor e-mail do Brasil. Abra sua conta agora! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reader at newsguy.com Wed Mar 24 15:33:06 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:33:06 -0600 Subject: The build that never returned... kernel-2.6.4-1.286 Message-ID: Building a custom version of kernel-2.6.4-1.286 this morning, after make xconfig make make modules_install install I never get the prompt back... the last lines I see: if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -u -ae -F System.map 2.6.4-1.286custom; fi Using /usr/src/linux-2.6.4-1.286 as source for kernel make[2]: `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s' is up to date. CHK include/linux/compile.h Kernel: arch/i386/boot/bzImage is ready sh /usr/src/linux-2.6.4-1.286/arch/i386/boot/install.sh 2.6.4-1.286custom arch/i386/boot/bzImage System.map "" Needs a ^C, but only after a very long time since earlier gives this output: [[Amake[2]: *** [install] Interrupt make[1]: *** [install] Interrupt make: *** [install] Interrupt After a lengthy wait and then `^C'. I notice that /boot/grub/grub.conf has not been rewritten to include the new kernel as is usually the case. Now I'm wondering what else may not be getting finished. Anyone seeing similar phenomena? From jakub at redhat.com Wed Mar 24 15:42:05 2004 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:42:05 -0500 Subject: any x86_64 mirror up to date? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040324154203.GN31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:30:16AM +0100, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > I've been trying to "yum update" my x86_64 development laptop for a couple > of weeks to no luck. I have 15 mirrors in the configuration file. > > Does anybody know if there's an updated mirror? I've had a look at most of > them and haven't found any. ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/ http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/ rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora/fedora/development/ is up2date rawhide as of a few minutes ago (all arches). Jakub From sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de Wed Mar 24 16:06:59 2004 From: sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de (Ralf Sigmund) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:06:59 +0100 Subject: ImportError: /usr/lib/wxPython/lib/libwx_gtk2ud-2.4.so: undefined symbol: _gtk_accel_group_detach Message-ID: <4061B223.4020301@ipk-gatersleben.de> Hello, I have been trying to install wx-python on my current installation of Fedora Core 1.9 as I have done it before several times. using wxPythonSrc-2.4.2.4 i built and installed wxGTK with --enable-gtk2 and --enable-unicode into /usr/lib/wxPython. Afterwards I built and installed wxPython exactly as described in README.1st All steps concluded without any errors. However any try to use wxPython gives the following result: [sigmund at pgrc-22 sigmund]$ python python_scripts/gui/test7.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "python_scripts/gui/test7.py", line 16, in ? from wxPython.wx import * File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wxPython/__init__.py", line 20, in ? import wxc ImportError: /usr/lib/wxPython/lib/libwx_gtk2ud-2.4.so: undefined symbol: _gtk_accel_group_detach here is ldd's output: [sigmund at pgrc-22 sigmund]$ ldd /usr/lib/wxPython/lib/libwx_gtk2ud-2.4.so libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x0034b000) libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00162000) libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x00111000) libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x00964000) libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 (0x0012b000) libpangox-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so.0 (0x0082a000) libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x001d0000) libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x00204000) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x00130000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00134000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x0083d000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x0023c000) libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x002b9000) libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x002de000) libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x00602000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00138000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x00301000) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x006bd000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00841000) libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00140000) libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x00143000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00312000) libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x00320000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00978000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x00332000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x007d8000) libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x0033a000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x0014c000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x007ff000) libexpat.so.0 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x00909000) --------the installed gtk packages are: rpm -qa | grep gtk pygtk2-2.2.0-1 gtkhtml2-2.5.6-1 gtk+-1.2.10-29.1.1 gtkhtml3-3.0.10-1 gtksourceview-0.9.2-1 gtkhtml2-debuginfo-2.5.6-1 gtksourceview-devel-0.9.2-1 usermode-gtk-1.69-5 gtk-engines-0.12-3.0.1 gtkhtml-devel-1.1.9-7 gtk2-debuginfo-2.4.0-1 gtk+-debuginfo-1.2.10-29.1.1 gtkhtml2-devel-2.5.6-1 pygtk2-libglade-2.2.0-1 gtkspell-2.0.4-4.1 pygtk2-devel-2.2.0-1 gtk-doc-1.2-1 gtk2-engines-2.2.0-5 gtkam-gimp-0.1.10-2.1 gtksourceview-debuginfo-0.9.2-1 gtkam-debuginfo-0.1.10-2.1 gtkhtml3-devel-3.0.10-1 gtk2-2.4.0-1 mtr-gtk-0.54-4 gtkspell-debuginfo-2.0.4-4.1 gtkglarea-1.2.2-19 gtkhtml-debuginfo-1.1.9-7 gtkspell-devel-2.0.4-4.1 gtk2-devel-2.4.0-1 gtk2-engines-debuginfo-2.2.0-5 gtk-engines-debuginfo-0.12-3.0.1 gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.0.0-4.1 authconfig-gtk-4.6.1-1.1.1 gtkam-0.1.10-2.1 gtk+-devel-1.2.10-29.1.1 gtkhtml-1.1.9-7 gtkhtml3-debuginfo-3.0.10-1 gtkglarea-debuginfo-1.2.2-19 From popgojp at yahoo.co.jp Wed Mar 24 16:18:26 2004 From: popgojp at yahoo.co.jp (d l) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:18:26 +0900 (JST) Subject: Disable nice boot screen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040324161826.34624.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.co.jp> Default to runlevel 3 (text mode) instead of runlevel 5(X) then. --- TGS ????????? > How do I disable the nice graphical boot screen? > When it start to boot in > that screen, the windows goes black, and I have no > video after that. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ From list at inksystems.net Wed Mar 24 16:28:56 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor N. Kolomiyets) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:28:56 +0000 Subject: Disable nice boot screen In-Reply-To: <20040324161826.34624.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.co.jp> References: <20040324161826.34624.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.co.jp> Message-ID: <4061B748.8040109@inksystems.net> After i had installed xorg few days ago it disabled itself. It is not coming up anymore but if i run rhgb from command prompt it shows up. Does anybody here experienced the similar? d l wrote: > Default to runlevel 3 (text mode) instead of runlevel 5(X) > then. > >>How do I disable the nice graphical boot screen? >>When it start to boot in >>that screen, the windows goes black, and I have no >>video after that. >> From Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com Wed Mar 24 16:31:19 2004 From: Tommy.McNeely at Sun.com (Tommy McNeely) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:31:19 -0700 Subject: my little hat is gone Message-ID: Hmmm, the little hat for the "Foot" menu is gone.. it happened when I updated the 300+ packages during my xorg conversion, so I have no idea which one did it :) Does anyone else have a "hat" menu, did the name of the package change by chance and I just need to install a different one? I get a white paper with a red X .. looks like a "image not found" type of picture. Tommy From reader at newsguy.com Wed Mar 24 16:11:10 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:11:10 -0600 Subject: mkinitrd... syntax Message-ID: A recent custom build of kernel linux-2.6.4-1.286 failed to complete and never returned the prompt. A ^C after 1/2 hour wait ended the session with no further output. It seems most things were done but /boot/grub/grub.conf was not edited and no initrd file was produced. Trying to finish up manually I ran into mkinitrd and find I don't really know how to use it... and further that the man page fails to make it clear as well: man mkinitrd says: SYNOPSIS mkinitrd [--version] [-v] [-f] [--preload=module] [--omit-scsi-modules] [--omit-raid-modules] [--omit-lvm-modules] [--with=module] [--image-version] [--fstab=fstab] [--nocompress] [--builtin=module] [--nopivot] image kernel-version The last line: image kernel-version What does `image' refer too. Is this the desired name for the output file or what? Maybe the target vmlinuz we need initrid for? Trying the later with this syntax: mkinitrd -v --omit-scsi-modules --omit-raid-modules --omit-lvm-modules /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.4-1.286custom 2.6.4-1.286custom I get a message `/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.4-1.286custom already exists.' And it does, but its not an initrd so what is supposed to go there? trying the former with this syntax mkinitrd -v --omit-scsi-modules --omit-raid-modules --omit-lvm-modules myinitrd 2.6.4-1.286custom ouputs this much: Looking for deps of module ide-disk Looking for deps of module ext3 Using modules: And never returns the prompt from there. I've given it 1/2 hour. ps wwaux reports a total of 2 pids for that command 1 minute apart but `top' doesn't report any activity on them From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Wed Mar 24 17:03:59 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:03:59 -0600 Subject: Disable nice boot screen References: <20040324161826.34624.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.co.jp> <4061B748.8040109@inksystems.net> Message-ID: <009701c411c2$256a0810$72b9fc80@rwa1> Yeah, that has happened on my box as well, though I haven't tried running it from the command prompt. Richard Ayer III From linuxnow at newtral.org Wed Mar 24 17:06:38 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:06:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: any x86_64 mirror up to date? In-Reply-To: <20040324154203.GN31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040324154203.GN31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:30:16AM +0100, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > > > I've been trying to "yum update" my x86_64 development laptop for a couple > > of weeks to no luck. I have 15 mirrors in the configuration file. > > > > Does anybody know if there's an updated mirror? I've had a look at most of > > them and haven't found any. > > ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/ > http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/ > rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora/fedora/development/ > is up2date rawhide as of a few minutes ago (all arches). Thanks, it worked!! Now to file the remaining bugs :) Pau From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Wed Mar 24 17:51:38 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:51:38 +0100 Subject: mkinitrd... syntax In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040324185138.2fc4ff40.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:11:10 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > A recent custom build of kernel linux-2.6.4-1.286 > failed to complete and never returned the prompt. A ^C after 1/2 > hour wait ended the session with no further output. > It seems most things were done but /boot/grub/grub.conf was not > edited and no initrd file was produced. > > Trying to finish up manually I ran into mkinitrd and find I don't > really know how to use it... and further that the man page fails to > make it clear as well: > > man mkinitrd says: > SYNOPSIS > mkinitrd [--version] [-v] [-f] > [--preload=module] [--omit-scsi-modules] > [--omit-raid-modules] [--omit-lvm-modules] > [--with=module] [--image-version] > [--fstab=fstab] [--nocompress] > [--builtin=module] [--nopivot] > image kernel-version > > The last line: > image kernel-version > > What does `image' refer too. > > Is this the desired name for the output file or what? Yes, the name of the initrd image file to be created. > Maybe the > target vmlinuz we need initrid for? Nope. -- From k at dicec.cl Wed Mar 24 18:05:52 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:05:52 -0400 Subject: Disable nice boot screen In-Reply-To: <009701c411c2$256a0810$72b9fc80@rwa1> References: <20040324161826.34624.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.co.jp> <4061B748.8040109@inksystems.net> <009701c411c2$256a0810$72b9fc80@rwa1> Message-ID: <1080151552.18244.1.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> It happened to me too, but it was after i installed the ATI drivers, no rhgb support(but i have framebuffer support). perhaps you are using ATI drivers? On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 13:03, Richard Ayer III wrote: > Yeah, that has happened on my box as well, though I haven't tried running it > from the command prompt. > > Richard Ayer III -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mharris at redhat.com Wed Mar 24 18:23:34 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:23:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: xorg + nvidia = bad news In-Reply-To: <1080124519.8832.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080124519.8832.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Maynard Kuona wrote: >It is something about xorg which I had issues with. You need to change >your font path in XF86Config. I have attached my XF86Config for you. > >I noticed that when I removed XF86Config, gdm started properly. I have >an NVidia card, so it should work well for you too. The old font path >which was "unix/:7100" doesn't seem to work too well. unix/:7100 is the xfs font server, which works perfectly well as long as it is running. Some people have done the upgrade and encountered the problem of xfs getting deconfigured with chkconfig, which causes xfs to not automatically start at boot time, also xfs is shut down on upgrade if it's running (but that is intentional). So, if you upgrade to X.org and have problems with your font path, it is not a bug in the font path. Just add xfs with chkconfig: chkconfig --add xfs Then start the service: service xfs start Then xfs should start, and the X server should start up because it can now talk to the font server. Hope this helps. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From mharris at redhat.com Wed Mar 24 18:27:45 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:27:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: hmmmm, now what - radeon and xorg configuration In-Reply-To: <1080128774.27851.101.camel@pc> References: <1080128774.27851.101.camel@pc> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Laurent GUERBY wrote: >> There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list >> anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge. > >Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers >(no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the >hardware? I hope the list is not empty... The DRI website has some documentation on that, however I don't know how up to date it is. Also, the DRI docs pertain to DRI-CVS rather than to a specific XFree86 or X.org X release, so if the DRI website says some hardware is supported, it doesn't mean it's necessarily supported in XFree86 4.4.0 or X.org currently for example. One example being Radeon IGP DRI, which is only supported in DRI-CVS, and not in X.org or XFree86 4.4.0. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From akabi at speakeasy.net Wed Mar 24 18:40:49 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:40:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: mkinitrd... syntax In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 24, 2004 at 10:11, Harry Putnam in a soothing rage wrote: [...] >Trying the later with this syntax: > > mkinitrd -v --omit-scsi-modules --omit-raid-modules --omit-lvm-modules > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.4-1.286custom 2.6.4-1.286custom Try: mkinitrd -v --omit-scsi-modules --omit-raid-modules --omit-lvm-modules /boot/initrd-2.6.4-1.286custom.img 2.6.4-1.286custom N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 "Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love." -- Albert Einstein 13:39:43 up 4 days, 3:12, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From joe at tmsusa.com Wed Mar 24 18:57:41 2004 From: joe at tmsusa.com (joe) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:57:41 -0800 Subject: hmmmm, now what - radeon and xorg configuration In-Reply-To: <20040324151626.GB16841@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080128774.27851.101.camel@pc> <20040324151626.GB16841@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4061DA25.6040300@tmsusa.com> Alan Cox wrote: >On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:46:14PM +0100, Laurent GUERBY wrote: > > >>On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote: >> >> >>>There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list >>>anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge. >>> >>> >>Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers >>(no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the >>hardware? I hope the list is not empty... >> >> > >Intel have pretty good support for their chipsets and are one vendor who >generally fund this stuff for their bits. VIA provided the original 3D >code for the CLE266 which is now supported (FC2t lacks some oddments). >3DFx Voodoo 3+ work well (except on FC2t right now but thats hopefully >going to sort out). Some radeons (7xxx,9000,9100 but not the high end ones), >and also rage 128 work well. > > > Agreed, voodoo3 cards work great, out of the box - and you can still find them for sale, cheap. Intel onboard (i8xx) video chipsets generally work fine too, but I have not had any luck with any ATI chipsets - I have gotten lockups every time I tried an ATI card - and the last time was a few months ago on FC1. If I had the time I'd go through the code and look for locking problems or whatever, but it's just easier to buy a different video card. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From list at inksystems.net Wed Mar 24 19:22:08 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor N. Kolomiyets) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:22:08 +0000 Subject: Disable nice boot screen In-Reply-To: <1080151552.18244.1.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> References: <20040324161826.34624.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.co.jp> <4061B748.8040109@inksystems.net> <009701c411c2$256a0810$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1080151552.18244.1.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> Message-ID: <4061DFE0.9090106@inksystems.net> I haven't installed proprietary ATI drivers. It happens with default radeon driver on my box. Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: > It happened to me too, but it was after i installed the ATI drivers, no > rhgb support(but i have framebuffer support). > > perhaps you are using ATI drivers? > > > On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 13:03, Richard Ayer III wrote: > >>Yeah, that has happened on my box as well, though I haven't tried running it >>from the command prompt. >> >>Richard Ayer III >> From markf78 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 24 19:44:59 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:44:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: gdb-6.0post-1.20031117.8 Message-ID: <20040324194459.41004.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- i am wondering if there is a bug in gdb or glibc.. i find it hard to believe that this error could have slipped through the cracks so i'm thinking perhaps my eyes are deceiving me. does anyone else see something wrong with the following command: (gdb) p ~0 $6 = -1 last i knew the 1's complement of 0 equaled 1. what is going on here? mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From mitr at volny.cz Wed Mar 24 19:47:41 2004 From: mitr at volny.cz (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:47:41 +0100 Subject: gdb-6.0post-1.20031117.8 In-Reply-To: <20040324194459.41004.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040324194459.41004.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040324194741.GA11109@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:44:59AM -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > (gdb) p ~0 > $6 = -1 > > last i knew the 1's complement of 0 equaled 1. what is going on here? Your idea of 1's complement. E.g. ~0000 = 1111 = -1 mod 2**4. Mirek From markf78 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 24 19:53:50 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:53:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: gdb-6.0post-1.20031117.8 In-Reply-To: <20040324194741.GA11109@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <20040324195350.60505.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- --- Miloslav Trmac wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:44:59AM -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > (gdb) p ~0 > > $6 = -1 > > > > last i knew the 1's complement of 0 equaled 1. what is going on here? > Your idea of 1's complement. > E.g. ~0000 = 1111 = -1 mod 2**4. > > Mirek of course, i don't what i was thinking... mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Wed Mar 24 20:01:37 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:01:37 -0500 Subject: Problems upgrading kernel and X failing. Message-ID: Does anyone else have a problem with X not starting after upgrading to a newer kernel in FC2T1? In every instance that I've pulled down a new kernel with up2date, my GUI fails to start using the new kernel. The only kernel that X loads on correctly and I get Gnome to come up is the original FC2t1 kernel. Anyone have any ideas? -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From rjohnson at medata.com Wed Mar 24 20:05:41 2004 From: rjohnson at medata.com (Rick Johnson) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:05:41 -0800 Subject: xorg install - using ld.so.conf.d (was X won't start) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4061EA15.3040504@medata.com> TGS wrote: > Not sure that this will help, but I had to do the following to get past the > black screen and the hung rhgb boot process. > > 1 - add in the /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf I've found that other entires were removed recently in favor of adding an include directory of /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ which is called within ld.so.conf with: include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf So I created two files inside /etc/ld.so.conf.d/: qt.conf xorg-x11.conf Added the following to qt.conf: /usr/lib/qt-3.2/lib /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib Added the following to xorg-x11.conf: /usr/X11R6/lib It seems that if Red Hat is pushing the ld.so.conf file to be modularized by creating the ld.so.conf.d directory and adding the include, that perhaps the xorg-x11 package should just include a file such as xorg-x11.conf with the appropriate entries included. My thoughts, -Rick -- Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - rjohnson at medata.com Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc. PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc From asenci at uol.com.br Wed Mar 24 20:10:28 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:10:28 -0300 Subject: Disable nice boot screen In-Reply-To: <4061DFE0.9090106@inksystems.net> References: <20040324161826.34624.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.co.jp> <4061B748.8040109@inksystems.net> <009701c411c2$256a0810$72b9fc80@rwa1> <1080151552.18244.1.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> <4061DFE0.9090106@inksystems.net> Message-ID: <1080159028.3209.1.camel@x1-6-00-e0-7d-ee-a2-1a> Mine works well with both... fglrx and radeon Em Qua, 2004-03-24 ?s 19:22 +0000, Igor N. Kolomiyets escreveu: > I haven't installed proprietary ATI drivers. It happens with default > radeon driver on my box. > > Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: > > It happened to me too, but it was after i installed the ATI drivers, no > > rhgb support(but i have framebuffer support). > > > > perhaps you are using ATI drivers? > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 13:03, Richard Ayer III wrote: > > > >>Yeah, that has happened on my box as well, though I haven't tried running it > >>from the command prompt. > >> > >>Richard Ayer III > >> > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joden at lee.k12.nc.us Wed Mar 24 20:13:34 2004 From: joden at lee.k12.nc.us (James Olin Oden) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:13:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: mkinitrd... syntax In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > A recent custom build of kernel linux-2.6.4-1.286 > failed to complete and never returned the prompt. A ^C after 1/2 > hour wait ended the session with no further output. > It seems most things were done but /boot/grub/grub.conf was not > edited and no initrd file was produced. > > Trying to finish up manually I ran into mkinitrd and find I don't > really know how to use it... and further that the man page fails to > make it clear as well: > > man mkinitrd says: > SYNOPSIS > mkinitrd [--version] [-v] [-f] > [--preload=module] [--omit-scsi-modules] > [--omit-raid-modules] [--omit-lvm-modules] > [--with=module] [--image-version] > [--fstab=fstab] [--nocompress] > [--builtin=module] [--nopivot] > image kernel-version > > The last line: > image kernel-version > > What does `image' refer too. > Its the name of the initial ram disk image you want to create. For instance initrd-2.4.20-30.9bigmem.img. > Is this the desired name for the output file or what? Maybe the > target vmlinuz we need initrid for? > Its the desired name of the output file...right! > Trying the later with this syntax: > > mkinitrd -v --omit-scsi-modules --omit-raid-modules --omit-lvm-modules > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.4-1.286custom 2.6.4-1.286custom > > I get a message `/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.4-1.286custom already exists.' > Which is a good thing because you just about replaced your kernel (-; > And it does, but its not an initrd so what is supposed to go there? > > trying the former with this syntax > mkinitrd -v --omit-scsi-modules --omit-raid-modules --omit-lvm-modules > myinitrd 2.6.4-1.286custom > > ouputs this much: > Looking for deps of module ide-disk > Looking for deps of module ext3 > Using modules: > > And never returns the prompt from there. I've given it 1/2 hour. > Hmmm...odd. Run strace -p on the process and see what its up to. Cheers...james > ps wwaux reports a total of 2 pids for that command 1 minute apart > but `top' doesn't report any activity on them > > > From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Wed Mar 24 20:30:25 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:30:25 -0600 Subject: Disable nice boot screen References: <20040324161826.34624.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.co.jp> <4061B748.8040109@inksystems.net><009701c411c2$256a0810$72b9fc80@rwa1><1080151552.18244.1.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> <4061DFE0.9090106@inksystems.net> Message-ID: <006101c411df$47b41560$72b9fc80@rwa1> Same here. Richard Ayer III From fritz.elfert at millenux.com Wed Mar 24 20:28:16 2004 From: fritz.elfert at millenux.com (Fritz Elfert) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:28:16 +0100 Subject: Problems upgrading kernel and X failing. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403242128.16258.fritz.elfert@millenux.com> Check your mouse setup in XF86Config. In the new kernel package, they disabled support for /dev/psaux (to packagers: any good reason for that?) In addition, the new xorg server simply dies without switching back to text mode if it does not find any pointer device. You can verify this by examining /var/log/XFree86.0.log. I had the same prob and simply changed /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice in XF86Config. After that it worked ... Ciao -Fritz On Wednesday 24 March 2004 21:01, Mark Haney wrote: > Does anyone else have a problem with X not starting after upgrading to a > newer kernel in FC2T1? In every instance that I've pulled down a new > kernel with up2date, my GUI fails to start using the new kernel. The only > kernel that X loads on correctly and I get Gnome to come up is the > original FC2t1 kernel. Anyone have any ideas? > > -- > Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? > > Mark Haney > Development, Systems and Network Administration > DoctorDirectory.com > http://www.doctordirectory.com From davej at redhat.com Wed Mar 24 20:47:18 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:47:18 +0000 Subject: Problems upgrading kernel and X failing. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080161238.8926.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 20:01, Mark Haney wrote: > Does anyone else have a problem with X not starting after upgrading to a > newer kernel in FC2T1? In every instance that I've pulled down a new > kernel with up2date, my GUI fails to start using the new kernel. The only > kernel that X loads on correctly and I get Gnome to come up is the > original FC2t1 kernel. Anyone have any ideas? /dev/psaux emulation went away. This has been on the lists a few times every week for the last n weeks. Dave From davej at redhat.com Wed Mar 24 20:49:18 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:49:18 +0000 Subject: Problems upgrading kernel and X failing. In-Reply-To: <200403242128.16258.fritz.elfert@millenux.com> References: <200403242128.16258.fritz.elfert@millenux.com> Message-ID: <1080161358.8926.3.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 20:28, Fritz Elfert wrote: > Check your mouse setup in XF86Config. In the new kernel package, they disabled > support for /dev/psaux (to packagers: any good reason for that?) With /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux, there exists a possibility for X to see the same events twice, as psaux events also get multiplexed through /dev/input/mice. So we killed off the obsolete interface. Dave From sulli219 at chartermi.net Wed Mar 24 20:51:37 2004 From: sulli219 at chartermi.net (William Sullivan) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:51:37 -0500 Subject: Yum mirrors for FC2 test 1 Message-ID: <4061F4D9.3040802@chartermi.net> I have been looking for some mirrors for FC2 test 1 for a while and i have been able to find any that work. I am looking for mirrors where I could get totem, xine and a few other programs not on the default mirrors. Anyone now of any? Thanks From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Mar 24 20:56:09 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:56:09 -0500 Subject: Yum mirrors for FC2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <4061F4D9.3040802@chartermi.net> References: <4061F4D9.3040802@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <1080161768.15043.20.camel@binkley> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 15:51 -0500, William Sullivan wrote: > I have been looking for some mirrors for FC2 test 1 for a while and i > have been able to find any that work. I am looking for mirrors where I > could get totem, xine and a few other programs not on the default > mirrors. Anyone now of any? Thanks > > rpm.livna.org -sv From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Wed Mar 24 21:02:16 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:02:16 -0600 Subject: FC2 T1 Installation notes: xorg, kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1, nVidia TNT Message-ID: <1080162136.4358.62.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Here's my story on installation... 1. Signed up for the fedora-test-list and tracked the list for a couple of days to get a feel for what I was up against. 2. Installed FC1 on my Dell Optiplex. 3. Copied the four ISO's for FC2-T1 to the hard drive (hda2). 4. Did a cdrom boot from the FC2-T1 iso and performed a HD drive installation. 5. Custom install of about 3gb of the software. 6. Changed yum.conf to point to a lesser used mirror. 7. yum remove XFree86* 8. yum install xorg* 9. Changed the XF86Config to use the nv driver. I have an ATI Mach64 video built-in on my Dell and an nvidia tnt add-on card. 10. yum install gnome* 11. yum update kernel* 12. Made the mouse0 change to /dev/mouse and XF86Config suggested here on the list as the mouse quit working. Results: Working FC2-T1 with xorg X11 (1600x1200 @ 24bit), Gnome, kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1. Great work folks! Really fairly painless for TEST linux. Now off to start playing with some of those apps. timothy at titan.stcl.edu From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Wed Mar 24 21:09:22 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:09:22 -0500 Subject: Problems upgrading kernel and X failing. In-Reply-To: <1080161238.8926.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <1080161238.8926.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: Great thanks. I apologize for filling the inbox with redundant stuff, but I just subscribed to this list and I had tons of trouble finding it in the Archives. On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:47:18 +0000, Dave Jones wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 20:01, Mark Haney wrote: >> Does anyone else have a problem with X not starting after upgrading to a >> newer kernel in FC2T1? In every instance that I've pulled down a new >> kernel with up2date, my GUI fails to start using the new kernel. The >> only >> kernel that X loads on correctly and I get Gnome to come up is the >> original FC2t1 kernel. Anyone have any ideas? > > /dev/psaux emulation went away. > This has been on the lists a few times every week for the last n weeks. > > Dave > > -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From reader at newsguy.com Wed Mar 24 21:21:46 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:21:46 -0600 Subject: mkinitrd... syntax In-Reply-To: (James Olin Oden's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:13:34 -0500 (EST)") References: Message-ID: James Olin Oden writes: > Hmmm...odd. Run strace -p on the process and see what its up to. > > Cheers...james >> ps wwaux reports a total of 2 pids for that command 1 minute apart >> but `top' doesn't report any activity on them This turned out to be something unrelated to mkinitrd... still not sure what it was but many other things failed too. A reboot into a prior kernel cleared it up.... Followed by a custom build on 2.6.4-1.286custom And all is well. Didn't need to build my own initrd after all but still nice to know the correct syntax... Thanks to all who posted. From mharris at redhat.com Wed Mar 24 21:34:21 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:34:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: xorg install - using ld.so.conf.d (was X won't start) In-Reply-To: <4061EA15.3040504@medata.com> References: <4061EA15.3040504@medata.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Rick Johnson wrote: >It seems that if Red Hat is pushing the ld.so.conf file to be >modularized by creating the ld.so.conf.d directory and adding the >include, that perhaps the xorg-x11 package should just include a file >such as xorg-x11.conf with the appropriate entries included. I've already given comments about ld.so.conf.d pertaining to xorg-x11 recently on fedora mailing lists. You can likely find them in the mailing list archives. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From asenci at uol.com.br Wed Mar 24 21:55:42 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:55:42 -0300 Subject: FC2 T1 Installation notes: xorg, kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1, nVidia TNT In-Reply-To: <1080162136.4358.62.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <1080162136.4358.62.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <1080165342.4535.0.camel@x1-6-00-e0-7d-ee-a2-1a> why "10. yum install gnome*" ?? downgrade?? Em Qua, 2004-03-24 ?s 15:02 -0600, Timothy Sandel escreveu: > Here's my story on installation... > > 1. Signed up for the fedora-test-list and tracked the list for a couple > of days to get a feel for what I was up against. > 2. Installed FC1 on my Dell Optiplex. > 3. Copied the four ISO's for FC2-T1 to the hard drive (hda2). > 4. Did a cdrom boot from the FC2-T1 iso and performed a HD drive > installation. > 5. Custom install of about 3gb of the software. > 6. Changed yum.conf to point to a lesser used mirror. > 7. yum remove XFree86* > 8. yum install xorg* > 9. Changed the XF86Config to use the nv driver. I have an ATI Mach64 > video built-in on my Dell and an nvidia tnt add-on card. > 10. yum install gnome* > 11. yum update kernel* > 12. Made the mouse0 change to /dev/mouse and XF86Config suggested here > on the list as the mouse quit working. > > Results: > Working FC2-T1 with xorg X11 (1600x1200 @ 24bit), Gnome, kernel > 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1. > > Great work folks! Really fairly painless for TEST linux. Now off to > start playing with some of those apps. > > timothy at titan.stcl.edu > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Wed Mar 24 22:11:11 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:11:11 -0600 Subject: FC2 T1 Installation notes: xorg, kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1, nVidia TNT In-Reply-To: <1080165342.4535.0.camel@x1-6-00-e0-7d-ee-a2-1a> References: <1080162136.4358.62.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080165342.4535.0.camel@x1-6-00-e0-7d-ee-a2-1a> Message-ID: <1080166271.4358.79.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> "yum remove XFree86*" deleted gnome as well. I guess I should have have played around with --exclude's but I really wanted XFree to be GONE so I let yum do it's thing. Timothy On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 15:55, Andr? S. wrote: > why "10. yum install gnome*" ?? > downgrade?? > > Em Qua, 2004-03-24 ?s 15:02 -0600, Timothy Sandel escreveu: > > Here's my story on installation... > > > > 1. Signed up for the fedora-test-list and tracked the list for a couple > > of days to get a feel for what I was up against. > > 2. Installed FC1 on my Dell Optiplex. > > 3. Copied the four ISO's for FC2-T1 to the hard drive (hda2). > > 4. Did a cdrom boot from the FC2-T1 iso and performed a HD drive > > installation. > > 5. Custom install of about 3gb of the software. > > 6. Changed yum.conf to point to a lesser used mirror. > > 7. yum remove XFree86* > > 8. yum install xorg* > > 9. Changed the XF86Config to use the nv driver. I have an ATI Mach64 > > video built-in on my Dell and an nvidia tnt add-on card. > > 10. yum install gnome* > > 11. yum update kernel* > > 12. Made the mouse0 change to /dev/mouse and XF86Config suggested here > > on the list as the mouse quit working. > > > > Results: > > Working FC2-T1 with xorg X11 (1600x1200 @ 24bit), Gnome, kernel > > 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1. > > > > Great work folks! Really fairly painless for TEST linux. Now off to > > start playing with some of those apps. > > > > timothy at titan.stcl.edu > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From czar at czarc.net Wed Mar 24 22:48:29 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:48:29 -0500 Subject: FC2 Development observations/comments/questions Message-ID: <200403241748.29595.czar@czarc.net> A couple of days ago I got a snapshot of FC2 i386 development and installed it. Today I finally got a good snapshot of FC2 x86_64 development. The system is an ASUS SK8V motherboard with an Opteron 140. The mobo has regular (legacy) ide support plus Promise raid and VIA SATA raid controllers. It also has a sk98lin supported 10/100/1000 ethernet NIC. 1. I installed a SATA drive under FC1 X86_64 (which I also have installed). Naturally, under FC1 this came up as /dev/sda with 238216,16,63 sizing (scsi so no LBA). This seems to work fine. However, when I was installing FC2, the system did not like the partition and said it was in error (showed gaps) but still with the 238216,16,63 characteristics. I suspect I could make this have LBA-like parameters of 14946,255,63 under FC2. I was surprised by the problems between the two versions. Comments? 2. When I installed FC2 x86_64 today I noticed some extra options on package selection (they may have also been there for the i386 install but I did not notice). The options were for two new package groupings involving compatability libraries. I assume these had something to do with ix86 packages on the x86_64 system but that was not at all clear. Should I report this as a bug? 3. When I installed FC2 x86_64 the installer did not recognize my monitor (the i386 install did) so it ask what it was ... I specified generic LCD capable of 1600x1200 (it is a Dell 2000FP). To my surprise (I was pleased) X came up with 1600x1200 so that I did not need to resize it after the first boot. 4. During bootup, the system has problems if kudzu is run -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119011 Today I found out that this is also true on the x86_64. 5. One thing that really puzzles me. For the ix86 install, there is a simple graphic that comes up in the top part of the initial screen when you first boot boot.iso (the one where you can select text, gui, expert, askmethod, etc, etc). This does NOT appear on the x86_64 install -- just the text messages and prompt. For that matter, it did not appear on the FC1 x86_64 install either. 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I guess I should have have > played around with --exclude's but I really wanted XFree to be GONE so I > let yum do it's thing. > > Timothy > > On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 15:55, Andr? S. wrote: > > why "10. yum install gnome*" ?? > > downgrade?? > > > > Em Qua, 2004-03-24 ?s 15:02 -0600, Timothy Sandel escreveu: > > > Here's my story on installation... > > > > > > 1. Signed up for the fedora-test-list and tracked the list for a couple > > > of days to get a feel for what I was up against. > > > 2. Installed FC1 on my Dell Optiplex. > > > 3. Copied the four ISO's for FC2-T1 to the hard drive (hda2). > > > 4. Did a cdrom boot from the FC2-T1 iso and performed a HD drive > > > installation. > > > 5. Custom install of about 3gb of the software. > > > 6. Changed yum.conf to point to a lesser used mirror. > > > 7. yum remove XFree86* > > > 8. yum install xorg* > > > 9. Changed the XF86Config to use the nv driver. I have an ATI Mach64 > > > video built-in on my Dell and an nvidia tnt add-on card. > > > 10. yum install gnome* > > > 11. yum update kernel* > > > 12. Made the mouse0 change to /dev/mouse and XF86Config suggested here > > > on the list as the mouse quit working. > > > > > > Results: > > > Working FC2-T1 with xorg X11 (1600x1200 @ 24bit), Gnome, kernel > > > 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1. > > > > > > Great work folks! Really fairly painless for TEST linux. Now off to > > > start playing with some of those apps. > > > > > > timothy at titan.stcl.edu > > > > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed Mar 24 23:12:01 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:12:01 -0500 Subject: Bug Buddy or Bugzilla submissions In-Reply-To: <1080100332.3361.6.camel@rhema> References: <4060F9F5.9050802@insight.rr.com> <1080100332.3361.6.camel@rhema> Message-ID: <406215C1.5000306@insight.rr.com> Deji Akingunola wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 22:01, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>What I was trying to do to the clock applet was to change it to 12 hr >>format and to check the date to be present within the applet. >> >>Is this problem present for anyone else? I didn't set the properties >>ahead of time on the 17th or 18th. > > > I encountered the same crash, and i use bug-buddy to fill the bug with > GNOME bugzilla; below is an excerpt of the response to the bugzilla > report. > > + > +------- Additional Comments From vincent at vuntz.net 2004-03-20 03:56 > ------- > +Thanks. The bug is already fixed in the latest release. > + > +*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 136721 *** > > Deji > > > Thanks for the feedback. I just read the email responses and it was unconfirmed. Jim ------------------ Also: After reading the bugzilla gnome emails. I read the other bug buddy report messages and the problem was when clicking on play, after ogg file selection picked, bug buddy would pop up and allow a report to be filed. The reply was to pass on the bug to gstreamer. (See below) I'm passing this one down to GStreamer. Probably what alsasink needs to do is to test the user's configuration before actually trying it, and give a clean error. I haven't looked at the alsa API so I'm not sure if that's possible. -- Stay away from hurricanes for a while. From w.steenburg at myactv.net Wed Mar 24 23:37:53 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:37:53 -0500 Subject: missing firewire module on 2.6.4-1.281 kernel Message-ID: <1080171473.2247.3.camel@FC2> After upgrading my kernel and rebooting, I receive a message about a missing module: ohci1394 . I don't actually use my firewire, but I would assume this was left out by mistake. Could anyone confirm this for me before I file a bug report? Wayne Steenburg From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Wed Mar 24 23:38:06 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:38:06 +0200 Subject: Policy on mono Message-ID: <1080171485.2246.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> What is Redhat's policy regarding mono. Are they of the opinon that it is legally encumbered or not. It would be nice to have it in Fedora. It is IMO best provided by the distributor instead of by third party. From wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu Thu Mar 25 00:14:27 2004 From: wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (Wes Shull) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:14:27 -0700 Subject: ImportError: /usr/lib/wxPython/lib/libwx_gtk2ud-2.4.so: undefined symbol: _gtk_accel_group_detach In-Reply-To: <20040324170011.3CA3E73B87@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040324170011.3CA3E73B87@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403241714.28677.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Ralf Sigmund wrote: > I have been trying to install wx-python on my current installation of > Fedora Core 1.9 as I have done it before several times. [...] > ImportError: /usr/lib/wxPython/lib/libwx_gtk2ud-2.4.so: undefined > symbol: _gtk_accel_group_detach You should follow the list; I mentioned this just a few days ago (in a thread about BitTorrent, which uses wxPython). Currently wxGtk is using private Gtk symbols that they're not supposed to, which Gtk stopped exporting recently. See: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=915333&group_id=9863&atid=109863 As for a remedy... a) stop using libraries from people that do dumb things in their code ;-) or b) downgrade gtk, and everything else that requires the current version. Not my idea of fun. Myself, I've gone with option a for the moment. From sulli219 at chartermi.net Thu Mar 25 01:03:31 2004 From: sulli219 at chartermi.net (William Sullivan) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:03:31 -0500 Subject: Playing DVDs in FC2 test 1 Message-ID: <40622FE3.3080804@chartermi.net> I am trying to play a DVD in FC2 test 1, I have totem installed and I have livna.org and fedora.us mirrors in my yum.conf. What additional files do I need for playing DVDs. Thanks From neuro at seclab.jp Thu Mar 25 01:26:33 2004 From: neuro at seclab.jp (Frederic de Villamil) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:26:33 +0100 Subject: Playing DVDs in FC2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <40622FE3.3080804@chartermi.net> References: <40622FE3.3080804@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <20040325012633.GA93016@jesus.seclab.jp> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, William Sullivan wrote: > I am trying to play a DVD in FC2 test 1, I have totem installed and I > have livna.org and fedora.us mirrors in my yum.conf. What additional > files do I need for playing DVDs. Thanks > Hello, to play DVD, you should install libdvdread, libdvdcss, libdvdplay, and libdvdnav. I don't want to start a long and useless debate about the best DVD player, but you should try mplayer as a really complete DVD player, simple to use and with amazing perfs. Just apt-get install mplayer Regards Frederic -- http://www.seclab.jp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope the list is not empty... >>> >> >> >> Intel have pretty good support for their chipsets and are one vendor who >> generally fund this stuff for their bits. VIA provided the original 3D >> code for the CLE266 which is now supported (FC2t lacks some oddments). >> 3DFx Voodoo 3+ work well (except on FC2t right now but thats hopefully >> going to sort out). Some radeons (7xxx,9000,9100 but not the high end >> ones), >> and also rage 128 work well. >> >> >> > > Agreed, voodoo3 cards work great, out of the box - and you can still > find them for sale, cheap. > > Intel onboard (i8xx) video chipsets generally work fine too, but I have > not had any luck with any ATI chipsets - I have gotten lockups every > time I tried an ATI card - and the last time was a few months ago on > FC1. If I had the time I'd go through the code and look for locking > problems or whatever, but it's just easier to buy a different video card. > > Joe > > I tried to load Fedora Core 1 on a machine with an ATI card and it did not take through vmware. I then tried the disks for Fedora core 2 Test 1 and it installed pretty decent, through vmware also. I haven't tried a native installation of Fedora on this computer yet. I am tempted though, but want to wait for the final release, being a work computer. (800 MHz FSB, hyperthreading, 2.8 GHz, etc) - I asked to stay away from the nvidia chipset. Maybe FC2T1 will have enough improvements to work with the ATI hardware that you have. Related to the Intel 810, I'm impressed on how well the drivers work for my home machine. The drivers seem have not let m down yet. Jim From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 25 01:34:22 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:34:22 -0800 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: References: <1080017759.6756.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040325013421.GD851@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:38:12AM -0500, TGS wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:38:12 -0500 > From: TGS > To: "fedora-test-list at redhat.com" > Subject: Re: xorg install - X won't start completely > Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Not sure that this will help, but I had to do the following to get past the > black screen and the hung rhgb boot process. > > 1 - add in the /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf Which is correct or when did /etc/ld.so.conf.d arrive. I found an ld.so.conf.rpmnew file that I had not disposed of (my date, March 8). It has one line: include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf Is this the new or an old way and if new then would adding /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/X11R6.conf be better. > 2 - do a ldconfig -v I get numerous non X11 errors: Is there a general way to clean these up? # ldconfig -v | grep cannot ldconfig: Can't stat /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib: No such file or directory ldconfig: Can't stat /usr/lib/qt-3.2/lib: No such file or directory ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libnetsnmp.so: No such file or directory ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libnetsnmpagent.so: No such file or directory ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libnetsnmphelpers.so: No such file or directory ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libnetsnmpmibs.so: No such file or directory ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libsnmp.so: No such file or directory > 3 - trash all in tmp, including all the .* files and directories > 4 - do a chkconfig xfs on > 5 - boot without the rhgb kernel option, > 6 - reboot again and it all worked. > > Thanks to all that provided those tidbits in a few posts. > > on 3/22/2004 11:56 PM, Maynard Kuona at knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za wrote: > > > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 20:57 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Jim Shepherd wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 20:17 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> This is a shot in the dark. I cleared the /tmp directory out of all > >>>> lingering files, Then I rebooted and the problems went away, X now starts. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Completely cleared out my /tmp and /var/tmp directories and still get > >>> the same error. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Looking at your XFree error file, you have similar computer specs as I > >>>> have. 810 video anyway. Here is what the video section looks like. It > >>>> seems to be working alright. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> My Screen section seems to be set up exactly like yours, except you seem > >>> to have an i815 while I seem to have an i810. What modules are you > >>> loading in the Modules section? > >>> > >>> -Jim > >>> > >>> > >> > >> This excerpt is from XF86Config. My card is an 815 and didn't work with > >> several distributions, but seems to work with RH or Fedora. > >> (800 MHz P III) > >> > >> I was worried that it stopped working with xorg originally. > >> > >> Have you tried running system-config-display to try to get x working? > >> There might be documentation on dumping system-config-xfree86, but I > >> didn't realize it until after X wouldn't start. > >> My file was generated by system-config-display as root user. > >> > >> Jim C. > >> > >> > >> Section "Module" > >> Load "dbe" > >> Load "extmod" > >> Load "fbdevhw" > >> Load "glx" > >> Load "record" > >> Load "freetype" > >> Load "type1" > >> Load "dri" > >> EndSection > >> > >> > > Also, xorg supports running without XF86config. I used this to fix mine > > after it wouldn't find my fonts. Although it was running at limited > > resolution. > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Thu Mar 25 02:52:20 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:52:20 -0500 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: <1080017759.6756.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405E3EA1.20503@insight.rr.com> <1079957374.5705.12.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405F9980.1010209@insight.rr.com> <1080017759.6756.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40624964.7070803@insight.rr.com> Maynard Kuona wrote: >>Section "Module" >> Load "dbe" >> Load "extmod" >> Load "fbdevhw" >> Load "glx" >> Load "record" >> Load "freetype" >> Load "type1" >> Load "dri" >>EndSection >> >> > > Also, xorg supports running without XF86config. I used this to fix mine > after it wouldn't find my fonts. Although it was running at limited > resolution. > > How does it support running without a configuration file? Is there another file for configuring X somewhere? Or you talking about the old configuration program before redhat-config-xfree86? If it figured out dynamically which settings were best for the machine. It seems that there would be long delays starting and a chance of over-excercising the video card with setting trials. If it went by some database for cards, took the settings, stored the settings in specific registers, then used other standardized schemes, it might work. I'm glad the module excerpt helped improve the resolution for graphics. Jim From mdg149 at rcn.com Thu Mar 25 05:11:45 2004 From: mdg149 at rcn.com (Matt Graham) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:11:45 -0500 Subject: floppy boot disk on RC2 Test1 In-Reply-To: References: <405DB3E1.8080700@rcn.com> <64895.65.41.50.216.1079883276.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <40626A11.1090200@rcn.com> Harry Putnam wrote: >>FC2Test1 doesn't have floppy images, the kernel is too big to fit. Please >>search the archives. >> >> > From: Gerrit > Subject: missing bootdisk.img > Newsgroups: gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:03:57 +0100 > Message-ID: <20040213200357.GA6754 at nl.linux.org> > >At least two messages in that thread give a technique using grub.conf >or lilo that makes it unnecessary to have a floppy or boot cd. >Once you've tried this... if its appropriate for you situation, you >won't want to do it any other way. > > Ok, I tried getting this to work but I'm doing something wrong. I copied vmlinuz to my /boot directory and initrd.img there too. I added a new entry to lilo and it shows up, but when I try to boot to the new install kernel, it starts, but just tries to boot my normal system, doesn't go into the Fedora install process. I'm thinking I screwed up on either the lilo entry, or I should have put the entire isolinux on my hard drive and booted to that somehow. Here's the lilo entry, it's pretty much just copied from my main kernel image entry except for the label and image are changed appropriately: image=/boot/vmlinuz-fc2t1-boot label=fedora_install root=/dev/hda7 read-only Is that close? Do I need to put the rest of the isolinux folder somewhere special on my harddrive? thanks -matt From mdg149 at rcn.com Thu Mar 25 05:19:30 2004 From: mdg149 at rcn.com (Matt Graham) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:19:30 -0500 Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <405CC7AE.5040605@gmx.de> <20040320224329.GC961396@hiwaay.net> <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <40626BE2.10105@rcn.com> This a bit of a stupid question, but can I get a quick explanation on the difference between XFree86 and xorg? thanks -matt From kohli at webdeko.com Thu Mar 25 06:54:57 2004 From: kohli at webdeko.com (Markus Kohli) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:54:57 +0100 Subject: Playing DVDs in FC2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <40622FE3.3080804@chartermi.net> References: <40622FE3.3080804@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <20040325075457.3668a281@karlchen.glue.ch> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:03:31 -0500 William Sullivan wrote: > I am trying to play a DVD in FC2 test 1, I have totem installed and I > have livna.org and fedora.us mirrors in my yum.conf. What additional > files do I need for playing DVDs. Thanks I use ogle / okle to watch DVDs. Performs well. HTH Markus -- I thought I had a back-up, but she refused to type it in again. From boson245 at msn.com Thu Mar 25 07:36:06 2004 From: boson245 at msn.com (Scott Fones) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:36:06 -0500 Subject: x.org fails on opening libXmuu.so.1 Message-ID: I just got around to installing the new x.org rpm's through yum and when I restarted X I get an error message saying that X has failed while trying to load libXmuu.so.1. The message then repeats itself about five times. Any ideas? I tried searching the archives, but didn't get any relevant results. Thanks in advance, Scott _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar ? FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ From list at inksystems.net Thu Mar 25 08:01:54 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor N. Kolomiyets) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:01:54 +0000 Subject: x.org fails on opening libXmuu.so.1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <406291F2.8020700@inksystems.net> Append the following into /etc/ld.so.conf: /usr/X11R6/lib run ldconfig and reboot the box. It should help. Best regards, Igor. Scott Fones wrote: > I just got around to installing the new x.org rpm's through yum and when > I restarted X I get an error message saying that X has failed while > trying to load libXmuu.so.1. The message then repeats itself about five > times. Any ideas? I tried searching the archives, but didn't get any > relevant results. > > Thanks in advance, > Scott > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar ? FREE! > http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ > > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Mar 25 08:04:00 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:04:00 +0000 Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: <40626BE2.10105@rcn.com> References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <405CC7AE.5040605@gmx.de> <20040320224329.GC961396@hiwaay.net> <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <40626BE2.10105@rcn.com> Message-ID: <1080201840.19193.17.camel@T7.linux> On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 00:19 -0500, Matt Graham wrote: > This a bit of a stupid question, but can I get a quick explanation on > the difference between XFree86 and xorg? The version of xorg x11 is effectively XFree86 4.4 without the licence hassles. It also seems a little bit quicker here. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Thu Mar 25 09:46:06 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:46:06 +0200 Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: <40624964.7070803@insight.rr.com> References: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405E3EA1.20503@insight.rr.com> <1079957374.5705.12.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405F9980.1010209@insight.rr.com> <1080017759.6756.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40624964.7070803@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1080207965.19037.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 04:52, Jim Cornette wrote: > Maynard Kuona wrote: > > >>Section "Module" > >> Load "dbe" > >> Load "extmod" > >> Load "fbdevhw" > >> Load "glx" > >> Load "record" > >> Load "freetype" > >> Load "type1" > >> Load "dri" > >>EndSection > >> > >> > > > > Also, xorg supports running without XF86config. I used this to fix mine > > after it wouldn't find my fonts. Although it was running at limited > > resolution. > > > > > > How does it support running without a configuration file? Is there > another file for configuring X somewhere? Or you talking about the old > configuration program before redhat-config-xfree86? > > If it figured out dynamically which settings were best for the machine. > It seems that there would be long delays starting and a chance of > over-excercising the video card with setting trials. > > If it went by some database for cards, took the settings, stored the > settings in specific registers, then used other standardized schemes, it > might work. > > I'm glad the module excerpt helped improve the resolution for graphics. > > Jim No, there are not long delays. It just loads up the video drivers and start X. Nothing noticeable in terms of slowdown for me. Besides, kudzu already knows what hardware you have, so it shouldn't be too long anyway. This running without a config file was a feature of XFree86 4.4, and so it made it into xorg. If you are using the nvidia drivers though, you may want to remove the dri part in the modules section. From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Thu Mar 25 11:31:33 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 06:31:33 -0500 Subject: xorg + nvidia = bad news In-Reply-To: <200403241449.24746@-mr700> References: <200403241449.24746@-mr700> Message-ID: <1080214293.13858.14.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 07:49, Doncho N. Gunchev wrote: > On Wednesday 24 March 2004 04:45, Tommy McNeely wrote: > > Followup to my own post :) > > > > I switched back to kernel 2.6.1 (listed below) and the kudzu hangs.. but I > > went interactive, skipped kudzu.. recompiled my kernel module for 2.6.1 > > and voila :) I am back to using my fancy closed source video driver.. > > looks like 2.6.3 is what made it unhappy, not xorg > > > 2.6.4 does not work with nvidia driver too. AFAIK there's a discussion > about this problem on the nvidia forum. Hope they fix it soon. > > -- > Regards, > Doncho N. Gunchev Registered Linux User #291323 at counter.li.org > GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/DA454F79 > Key fingerprint = 684F 688B C508 C609 0371 5E0F A089 CB15 DA45 4F79 I have the nvidia video drivers running under a stock (kernel.org) 2.6.4 kernel w/o problems and using Xorg-x11. I did have to go through the minor hoops described around the list to get xorg-x11 installed. The 2.6.4 kernel and the nvidia driver were running before the xorg-x11 installation. The 4KSTACKS and the CONFIG_REGPARM options break the nvidia driver. I don't see the 4KSTACKS option in the stock kernel, but the CONFIG_REGPARM is in the "Processor type and features" section. Bob... From bethybh at terra.com.br Thu Mar 25 11:51:39 2004 From: bethybh at terra.com.br (Elizabeth Bonomi) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:51:39 -0300 Subject: [Spam] Re: hmmmm, now what - radeon and xorg configuration Message-ID: >Alan Cox wrote: > >>On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:46:14PM +0100, Laurent GUERBY wrote: >> >> >>>On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote: >>> >>> >>>>There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list >>>>anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge. >>>> >>>> >>>Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers >>>(no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the >>>hardware? I hope the list is not empty... >>> >>> >> >>Intel have pretty good support for their chipsets and are one vendor who >>generally fund this stuff for their bits. VIA provided the original 3D >>code for the CLE266 which is now supported (FC2t lacks some oddments). >>3DFx Voodoo 3+ work well (except on FC2t right now but thats hopefully >>going to sort out). Some radeons (7xxx,9000,9100 but not the high end ones), >>and also rage 128 work well. >> >> >> > >Agreed, voodoo3 cards work great, out of the box - and you can still >find them for sale, cheap. > >Intel onboard (i8xx) video chipsets generally work fine too, but I have >not had any luck with any ATI chipsets - I have gotten lockups every >time I tried an ATI card - and the last time was a few months ago on >FC1. If I had the time I'd go through the code and look for locking >problems or whatever, but it's just easier to buy a different video card. > >Joe > > "O primeiro dever da intelig?ncia ? desconfiar dela mesma" "Albert Einstein" From bethybh at terra.com.br Thu Mar 25 12:14:51 2004 From: bethybh at terra.com.br (Elizabeth Bonomi) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:14:51 -0300 Subject: [Spam] Re: hmmmm, now what - radeon and xorg configuration Message-ID: >>Alan Cox wrote: >> >>>On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:46:14PM +0100, Laurent GUERBY wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list >>>>>anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers >>>>(no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the >>>>hardware? I hope the list is not empty... >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Intel have pretty good support for their chipsets and are one vendor who >>>generally fund this stuff for their bits. VIA provided the original 3D >>>code for the CLE266 which is now supported (FC2t lacks some oddments). >>>3DFx Voodoo 3+ work well (except on FC2t right now but thats hopefully >>>going to sort out). Some radeons (7xxx,9000,9100 but not the high end ones), >>>and also rage 128 work well. >>> >>> >>> >> >>Agreed, voodoo3 cards work great, out of the box - and you can still >>find them for sale, cheap. >> >>Intel onboard (i8xx) video chipsets generally work fine too, but I have >>not had any luck with any ATI chipsets - I have gotten lockups every >>time I tried an ATI card - and the last time was a few months ago on >>FC1. If I had the time I'd go through the code and look for locking >>problems or whatever, but it's just easier to buy a different video card. >> >>Joe >> >> > >"O primeiro dever da intelig?ncia ? desconfiar dela mesma" >"Albert Einstein" > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > >Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra. >Scan engine: VirusScan / Atualizado em 24/03/2004 / Vers?o: 1.5.2 >Proteja o seu e-mail Terra: http://www.emailprotegido.terra.com.br/ > >E-mail classificado pelo Identificador de Spam Inteligente Terra. >Para alterar a categoria classificada, visite >http://www.terra.com.br/centralunificada/emailprotegido/imail/imail.cgi?+_u=bethybh&_l=1080215515.291663.18074.pamplona.terra.com.br > "O primeiro dever da intelig?ncia ? desconfiar dela mesma" "Albert Einstein" From parrishmyers at yahoo.com Thu Mar 25 13:33:24 2004 From: parrishmyers at yahoo.com (Parrish M Myers) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 05:33:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: x.org and Radwon IGP 320M Message-ID: <20040325133324.4685.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, I haven't had a chance to try the new x.org X server... But does anyone know if it supports the ATI Radeon Mobility U1 (IGP 320M) video chip out of the box? Or can I still get the drivers from SUSE? Thanks. Parrish ===== "Parrish Myers" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. -- (Winston Churchill) From fxjrlists at yahoo.com.br Thu Mar 25 14:13:13 2004 From: fxjrlists at yahoo.com.br (Francisco Figueiredo Jr.) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:13:13 -0300 Subject: missing firewire module on 2.6.4-1.281 kernel In-Reply-To: <1080171473.2247.3.camel@FC2> References: <1080171473.2247.3.camel@FC2> Message-ID: <4062E8F9.3030108@yahoo.com.br> Wayne Steenburg wrote: > After upgrading my kernel and rebooting, I receive a message about a > missing module: ohci1394 . I don't actually use my firewire, but I would > assume this was left out by mistake. Could anyone confirm this for me > before I file a bug report? > > Wayne Steenburg > > Where do I get the 2.6.4? I checked http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ but I couldn't find it there, just 2.6.3 Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Francisco Figueiredo Jr. Membro Fundador do Projeto MonoBrasil - MonoBrasil Project Founder Member http://monobrasil.softwarelivre.org ------------- "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." ~ Albert Einstein From bartk at clara.co.uk Thu Mar 25 14:14:06 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:14:06 +0000 Subject: missing firewire module on 2.6.4-1.281 kernel In-Reply-To: <4062E8F9.3030108@yahoo.com.br> References: <1080171473.2247.3.camel@FC2> <4062E8F9.3030108@yahoo.com.br> Message-ID: <4062E92E.30400@clara.co.uk> http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ "..." > Where do I get the 2.6.4? > > -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From czar at czarc.net Thu Mar 25 14:19:59 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:19:59 -0500 Subject: loop module not loaded automatically Message-ID: <200403250919.59977.czar@czarc.net> Up until install of FC2 development yesterday, I had never needed to manually load the module for loop mount support. When I tried doing a loop mount today, I got a message that loop was not in the kernel or I needed to do a modprobe loop. I did a modprobe loop and the mount then worked fine. Is this a bug (needing to manually load the module)? -- Gene From katzj at redhat.com Thu Mar 25 14:48:30 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:48:30 -0500 Subject: FC2 Development observations/comments/questions In-Reply-To: <200403241748.29595.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403241748.29595.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080226110.1579.11.camel@edoras.local.net> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 17:48 -0500, Gene C. wrote: > 2. When I installed FC2 x86_64 today I noticed some extra options on package > selection (they may have also been there for the i386 install but I did not > notice). The options were for two new package groupings involving > compatability libraries. I assume these had something to do with ix86 > packages on the x86_64 system but that was not at all clear. Should I report > this as a bug? No, these are supposed to be there on x86_64 and are intentionally not present on i386 (there's no other arch for it to support). > 3. When I installed FC2 x86_64 the installer did not recognize my monitor (the > i386 install did) so it ask what it was ... I specified generic LCD capable > of 1600x1200 (it is a Dell 2000FP). To my surprise (I was pleased) X came up > with 1600x1200 so that I did not need to resize it after the first boot. Unfortunately, there is no generic way to do monitor probing independent of what card is being used :/ On x86, we can ues DDC via some fun real mode LRMI code, but that doesn't work on any other arch. > 5. One thing that really puzzles me. For the ix86 install, there is a simple > graphic that comes up in the top part of the initial screen when you first > boot boot.iso (the one where you can select text, gui, expert, askmethod, > etc, etc). This does NOT appear on the x86_64 install -- just the text > messages and prompt. For that matter, it did not appear on the FC1 x86_64 > install either. I do not understand? Some early x86_64 hardware had problems with the isolinux graphics mode... I should actually put it back and see if it causes things to break. Jeremy From whb at ceimaine.org Thu Mar 25 15:02:02 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:02:02 -0500 Subject: New monitor, Kudzu, and the graphical boot Message-ID: <1080226921.2191.19.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> During graphical boot, X starts and kudzu displays in a window. I installed Fedora using a nice monitor, but then replaced the monitor with an older, crappy one. On reboot, X was messed up for the graphical boot, and therefore kudzu was unreadable when it detected a change in monitors. I'm not certain what I pressed to make the system continue. X was still messed up. Reboots did not help. This was solved by switching to a virtual terminal, telinit 3, rename config file for X, run the config tool for X. Is there a way to make this easier for the novice desktop user? Can the graphical boot use more generic or failsafe settings, or is this just an odd edge case? Kudzu is fairly fail-safe as a curses app, but plugging it into an X display can cause issues when display adapters or monitors are changed, -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Thu Mar 25 15:35:12 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:35:12 -0500 Subject: Invalid GPG key from up2date Message-ID: What's the deal with the GPG being invalid when I run up2date now? I know the fix for FC1, but doesn't FC2 automatically send you to a mirror site? Did the GPG key change? -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From manu at kromtek.com Thu Mar 25 15:31:47 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:31:47 +0400 Subject: Gimp Message-ID: <200403251931.47740.manu@kromtek.com> Hi, When i run gimp-1.4 (i think looking for xsane) gimp freezes up Fedora Core 1. Does anybody know the reason ? Regards, Manu From tadej.janez at tadej.hicsalta.si Thu Mar 25 15:40:31 2004 From: tadej.janez at tadej.hicsalta.si (Tadej =?iso-8859-2?Q?Jane=BE?=) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:40:31 +0100 Subject: Rhythmbox and mp3 In-Reply-To: <20040324121106.3786c49a.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <1080084801.8832.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040324091348.5b053a60.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> <1080123894.8832.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040324121106.3786c49a.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1080229230.2156.10.camel@devel.n800v.tjanez.hicsalta.si> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 12:11 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > > > Is rhythmbox built with id3lib? > > > Does it recognize mp3 files when built without id3lib? > > > > > > In earlier releases it did not and had to be replaced with a rebuilt > > > version (and not just with gstreamer-plugins-mp3 added). id3lib is > > > included in fedora.us as an extra package. > > > > > > -- > > The problem is that rhythmbox will not be able to load mp3s into its > > database if it is not built with id3lib, and according to the src.rpm > > file I downloaded from download.fedora.redhat.com yesterday, it is not > > built with id3lib and it is in the configure section of the spec file it > > has --disable-mp3. > > libid3tag (not id3lib) is not included within Fedora Core. It would need > to be included before rhythmbox could be built with id3 support. Only > then adding mp3 support would be as easy as installing a gstreamer plugin > from some add-on site. According to this post: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/rhythmbox-devel/2004-February/msg00044.html this issue will soon become irrelevant (since version 0.7.0 onwards). "... The bottom line now is that Rhythmbox doesn't depend on libid3tag, libflac, etc., anymore. In fact, with GStreamer, there is now no media-specific code in Rhythmbox. If you have a GStreamer plugin, you can both play back that format and load it into your library, and you don't even need to recompile Rhythmbox." Nevertheless, Fedora Core will still first have to switch to a newer verison of Rhythmbox (0.7.x are development series), luckily, GStreamer 0.8.0 is already present in rawhide. Then you only need a third-party repository with your desired gstreamer plugins, such as rpm.livna.org, freshrpms, etc. tadej From nphilipp at redhat.com Thu Mar 25 15:45:11 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:45:11 +0100 Subject: Gimp In-Reply-To: <200403251931.47740.manu@kromtek.com> References: <200403251931.47740.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <1080229510.4660.9.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 16:31, Manu Abraham wrote: > Hi, > > When i run gimp-1.4 (i think looking for xsane) gimp freezes up Fedora Core There is no gimp-1.4, just 1.2 and then 2.0 (pre4 currently available as Rawhide packages, final being delayed until after test2 due to devel freeze). > 1. Does anybody know the reason ? It looks like you use the new gimp packages against the old xsane packages which will not work(tm). Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 From mail at lotus-notes.net Thu Mar 25 15:51:24 2004 From: mail at lotus-notes.net (mail at lotus-notes.net) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:51:24 -0500 Subject: Invalid GPG key from up2date for Fedora CORE 2 HELP! HELP! HELP! References: Message-ID: <00f201c41281$077a4030$04a8a8c0@p428> I have just spent the last 4 days downloading by hand about 200 of the 600 more updates for Rawhide , Fedora Core 2, half wont even download and I am wasting many hours each day on this with no end in site. This seems like a pretty obvious mistake, I ran the update with the command line to update my cerficates directly from the Red Hat web site. It ran find and said both my cerficates were up to date. HELP! HELP! Pleasseeee. You can email me directly at mail at Lotus-Notes.Net if you know the answer. many thanks From thorn at gate.cia.edu Thu Mar 25 15:56:09 2004 From: thorn at gate.cia.edu (thorn) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:56:09 -0500 Subject: Post install problems Message-ID: <40630119.3060901@gate.cia.edu> I'm running FC2 Test 1 with mixed results. Post install resulted in some configuration problems. 1. Correctly sees my internal zip drive (250MB) and fstab shows the following: /dev/hdb4 /mnt/zip auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 This worked under RH9 but when I try to mount unde FC2 it locks up the system necessitating a manual reboot. I've tried running modprobe ppa but get an error message : FATAL: Error inserting ppa (/lib/modules/2.6.1-1.65/kernel/drivers/scsi/ppa.ko): No such device Also tried substituting iim with the same result: FATAL: Error inserting imm (/lib/modules/2.6.1-1.65/kernel/drivers/scsi/imm.ko): No such device Any ideas on what the problem is here? Also sees my sound card by get no sound, system or otherwise. I will attempt to install ALSA to see if that works. My primary concern is getting the zip drive functional. Tom From reader at newsguy.com Thu Mar 25 16:20:33 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:20:33 -0600 Subject: floppy boot disk on RC2 Test1 References: <405DB3E1.8080700@rcn.com> <64895.65.41.50.216.1079883276.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <40626A11.1090200@rcn.com> Message-ID: Matt Graham writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: > >>>FC2Test1 doesn't have floppy images, the kernel is too big to fit. Please >>>search the archives. >>> >>> >> From: Gerrit >> Subject: missing bootdisk.img >> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers >> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:03:57 +0100 >> Message-ID: <20040213200357.GA6754 at nl.linux.org> >> >>At least two messages in that thread give a technique using grub.conf >>or lilo that makes it unnecessary to have a floppy or boot cd. >>Once you've tried this... if its appropriate for you situation, you >>won't want to do it any other way. >> >> > Ok, I tried getting this to work but I'm doing something wrong. I > copied vmlinuz to my /boot directory and initrd.img there too. I > added a new entry to lilo and it shows up, but when I try to boot to > the new install kernel, it starts, but just tries to boot my normal > system, doesn't go into the Fedora install process. I'm thinking I > screwed up on either the lilo entry, or I should have put the entire > isolinux on my hard drive and booted to that somehow. > > Here's the lilo entry, it's pretty much just copied from my main > kernel image entry except for the label and image are changed > appropriately: > image=/boot/vmlinuz-fc2t1-boot > label=fedora_install > root=/dev/hda7 > read-only > > Is that close? Do I need to put the rest of the isolinux folder > somewhere special on my harddrive? I think its right but its been quite a while since I used lilo. Did you remember to run /sbin/lilo after making the changes. That must be done before reboot. From reader at newsguy.com Thu Mar 25 16:26:07 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:26:07 -0600 Subject: Setting sound level on startup References: <20040322143642.D930031533@neuromancer.voxel.net> <1079990952.2421.11.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: Chris Kloiber writes: >> I'd like to see this done elsewhere if possible. We don't all use X each >> time we want to use our audio hardware. Perhaps pam_audio (I'm not sure if >> this is a tonge-in-cheek proposal or not)? > > alsamixer runs on the command line, but I agree it should not need to be > run to unmute and increase the volume. Sane defaults should be set > (maybe 40%) during firstboot, then let the customer adjust it. I was wondering if you posters have something in /etc/modprobe.conf similar to what I have: alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : I'm not sure what this is supposed to do, but it appears it might reset aumix to 0 on reboot. Note, it is a hidden /etc/.aumixrc referrenced there too. I was just about to post asking after the meaning of these lines when I noticed your thread. From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Thu Mar 25 16:29:30 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:29:30 +0100 Subject: Setting sound level on startup In-Reply-To: References: <20040322143642.D930031533@neuromancer.voxel.net> <1079990952.2421.11.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <20040325172930.22531bf4.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:26:07 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > > alsamixer runs on the command line, but I agree it should not need to be > > run to unmute and increase the volume. Sane defaults should be set > > (maybe 40%) during firstboot, then let the customer adjust it. > > I was wondering if you posters have something in /etc/modprobe.conf > similar to what I have: > alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 > install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && > /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > > I'm not sure what this is supposed to do, but it appears it might > reset aumix to 0 on reboot. ALSA drivers default to "mute" when loaded. aumix is for OSS drivers, e.g. the ALSA OSS compatibility portion. For native ALSA you need to run "alsactl store" once (preferably the shutdown script does that like it does with aumix) and run "alsactl restore" via modprobe.conf. -- From asenci at uol.com.br Thu Mar 25 16:37:15 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:37:15 -0300 Subject: /etc/init.d scripts Message-ID: <1080232635.5025.1.camel@x1-6-00-e0-7d-ee-a2-1a> how can I restore all the scripts form /etc/init.d ? I've deleted a few scripts trying to use system-config-services... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fritz.elfert at millenux.com Thu Mar 25 16:43:34 2004 From: fritz.elfert at millenux.com (Fritz Elfert) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:43:34 +0100 Subject: Getting srpms with yum? Message-ID: <200403251743.34331.fritz.elfert@millenux.com> Hi, There's nothing mentioned about handling srpms in yum's manpages, so: How do i setup yum for getting sources (similar to apt-get source )? Thanks -Fritz From markf78 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 25 16:49:34 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:49:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: kernel & FC2 test2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040325164934.7361.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- i realize that there has been a devel freeze on new additions for FC2 test2 but i still would like to try and lobby for the inclusion of kernel-2.6.4-1.286 as the main kernel in this distribution. all kernels in the 2.6.3* range have a serious firewire flaw which causes a kernel panic everytime. (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118771 for more info) my reason for the lobbying is selfish; my gnome setup is flawed critically by bugs 117658, 118000, and 118222. i'm hoping that a upgrade install through anaconda will somehow help with these issues but if the kernel is prior to that version than i won't be able to do this. i'm hoping that since *286 fixes a bug than it can violate the devel freeze provision. anyways, just figured i'd ask... mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Thu Mar 25 16:53:39 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:53:39 -0600 Subject: Soundcard driver snd-es1371 won't load Message-ID: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> When I run the soundcard detector my card gets recognized properly, but the driver fails to load. Vendor: Ensoniq Model: ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] Module: snd-es1371 I get a message "The snd-es1371 driver could not be loaded. This soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux". FC1 worked. From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Thu Mar 25 16:56:37 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:56:37 -0600 Subject: Playing DVDs in FC2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <40622FE3.3080804@chartermi.net> References: <40622FE3.3080804@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <1080233797.3014.218.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> I have used just about every DVD player available; including xine, ogg, mplayer... give vlc (videolan.org) a try. It just works on about any OS (I have successfully run it on windows, mac osx, BSD, and Linux (Mandrake9, Redhat8/9 and FC1). I have not had a chance to try it on FC2 because my sound is broke. )On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 19:03, William Sullivan wrote: > I am trying to play a DVD in FC2 test 1, I have totem installed and I > have livna.org and fedora.us mirrors in my yum.conf. What additional > files do I need for playing DVDs. Thanks > From peter at pandasys.co.uk Thu Mar 25 16:57:45 2004 From: peter at pandasys.co.uk (Peter Campion-Bye) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:57:45 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Soundcard driver snd-es1371 won't load In-Reply-To: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <42788.192.107.26.131.1080233865.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> > When I run the soundcard detector my card gets recognized properly, but > the driver fails to load. > > Vendor: Ensoniq > Model: ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] > Module: snd-es1371 > > I get a message "The snd-es1371 driver could not be loaded. This > soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux". I think you'll find the driver is called snd-ens1371 (with an 'n') From wolters.liste at gmx.net Thu Mar 25 17:07:52 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 18:07:52 +0100 Subject: Bad or non implemented Greek (and other) fonts? Message-ID: <200403251807.52587.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Hi, I try to get all the fonts on my linux which I need to read Greek or other non-latin sites without any problems. But there are several problems: it seems that fedora comes with a basic Greek font, but its far away from correct displaying Greek (http://el.wikipedia.org/). And Hindi is not supported in any way, its impossible to read hindi with Fedora Core 2 Test1 as long as you do not try to fix by hand. Why don't they add the missing files? It seems that XFree86 and X.org are having the files they need, following Markus Kuhn at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html Linux do not need all the UTF-8 support as long as its not able to display some of the "large" fonts/alphabets (hindi and greek) from start on - I know that I can fix it by hand, but thats not the question for the "normal" users. Roland From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Thu Mar 25 17:12:02 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:12:02 -0600 Subject: Soundcard driver snd-es1371 won't load In-Reply-To: <42788.192.107.26.131.1080233865.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <42788.192.107.26.131.1080233865.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> Message-ID: <1080234722.3014.221.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> That was painless. I didn't see anything on this in Buzilla. I guess I'll open a bugger. Thanks On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 10:57, Peter Campion-Bye wrote: > > When I run the soundcard detector my card gets recognized properly, but > > the driver fails to load. > > > > Vendor: Ensoniq > > Model: ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] > > Module: snd-es1371 > > > > I get a message "The snd-es1371 driver could not be loaded. This > > soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux". > > I think you'll find the driver is called snd-ens1371 (with an 'n') > From bcs at metacon.ca Thu Mar 25 17:23:44 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:23:44 -0400 Subject: installing FC2T1 from an up-to-date mirror Message-ID: <1080235424.7773.61.camel@zephyr> Hi, I'd like to install FC2T1 from our local (up to date) mirror. However, when I use the boot.iso disk, the install fails after downloading the stage2 installer with the following message: "The Fedora Core installation tree in that directory does not seem to match your boot media." ...so I guess the question is: how to I correct the boot media, or get it to accept the newer packages? Or is it stage2.img that's out of whack? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From czar at czarc.net Thu Mar 25 17:29:43 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:29:43 -0500 Subject: FC2 Development observations/comments/questions In-Reply-To: <1080226110.1579.11.camel@edoras.local.net> References: <200403241748.29595.czar@czarc.net> <1080226110.1579.11.camel@edoras.local.net> Message-ID: <200403251229.43805.czar@czarc.net> On Thursday 25 March 2004 09:48, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 17:48 -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > 2. When I installed FC2 x86_64 today I noticed some extra options on > > package selection (they may have also been there for the i386 install but > > I did not notice). The options were for two new package groupings > > involving compatability libraries. I assume these had something to do > > with ix86 packages on the x86_64 system but that was not at all clear. > > Should I report this as a bug? > > No, these are supposed to be there on x86_64 and are intentionally not > present on i386 (there's no other arch for it to support). The "bug" I am refering to is that it is not clear that these selections refer to ix86 packages. Otherwise, this option look good. [snip] > > 5. One thing that really puzzles me. For the ix86 install, there is a > > simple graphic that comes up in the top part of the initial screen when > > you first boot boot.iso (the one where you can select text, gui, expert, > > askmethod, etc, etc). This does NOT appear on the x86_64 install -- just > > the text messages and prompt. For that matter, it did not appear on the > > FC1 x86_64 install either. I do not understand? > > Some early x86_64 hardware had problems with the isolinux graphics > mode... I should actually put it back and see if it causes things to > break. Same system ASUS SK8V runs the ix86 installer just fine ... including the "splash". For someone use to a Red Hat or Fedora Core install, it just looks a bit "strange" without the "splash" graphics. -- Gene From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Thu Mar 25 17:41:33 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 18:41:33 +0100 Subject: Soundcard driver snd-es1371 won't load In-Reply-To: <1080234722.3014.221.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <42788.192.107.26.131.1080233865.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> <1080234722.3014.221.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <20040325184133.41510269.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:12:02 -0600, Timothy Sandel wrote: > That was painless. I didn't see anything on this in Buzilla. I guess > I'll open a bugger. > > Thanks > > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 10:57, Peter Campion-Bye wrote: > > > When I run the soundcard detector my card gets recognized properly, but > > > the driver fails to load. > > > > > > Vendor: Ensoniq > > > Model: ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] > > > Module: snd-es1371 > > > > > > I get a message "The snd-es1371 driver could not be loaded. This > > > soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux". > > > > I think you'll find the driver is called snd-ens1371 (with an 'n') This has been fixed sometime after Test 1 with update packages from the development stream. A corresponding bug report is in bugzilla somewhere. -- From john.wendel at metnet.navy.mil Thu Mar 25 17:48:41 2004 From: john.wendel at metnet.navy.mil (John Wendel) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:48:41 -0800 Subject: Post install problems In-Reply-To: <40630119.3060901@gate.cia.edu> References: <40630119.3060901@gate.cia.edu> Message-ID: <200403250948.41128.john.wendel@metnet.navy.mil> On Thursday 25 March 2004 07:56 am, thorn wrote: > I'm running FC2 Test 1 with mixed results. Post install resulted in > some configuration problems. > > 1. Correctly sees my internal zip drive (250MB) and fstab shows the > following: > /dev/hdb4 /mnt/zip auto > noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 > > This worked under RH9 but when I try to mount unde FC2 it locks up the > system necessitating a manual reboot. > > I've tried running modprobe ppa but get an error message : > FATAL: Error inserting ppa > (/lib/modules/2.6.1-1.65/kernel/drivers/scsi/ppa.ko): No such device > Also tried substituting iim with the same result: > FATAL: Error inserting imm > (/lib/modules/2.6.1-1.65/kernel/drivers/scsi/imm.ko): No such device > > Any ideas on what the problem is here? > > Also sees my sound card by get no sound, system or otherwise. I will > attempt to install ALSA to see if that works. My primary concern is > getting the zip drive functional. > > Tom My internal zip 250 works fine. Fstab contains the following line. /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto noauto,owner 0 0 I type "mount /mnt/zip" and all is happy. This is an IDE device, you don't need any scsi modules or parallel port drivers. The ide driver is all you need, unless you're trying to do some funny ide-scsi driver tricks at boot time. Sorry I can't really help. Regards, John From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Mar 25 17:42:53 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:42:53 -0800 Subject: Difficulties with IC Ensemble Inc ICE1724 [Envy24HT] and snd_ice1724 Message-ID: <200403250942.58727.jkeating@j2solutions.net> So I have a nice shiny new x86_64 system, based on the Chaintech NF3-150 board. This board has the IC Ensemble Inc ICE1724 [Envy24HT] onboard sound system. The 2.6 kernel from FC2 development detects this as needing the "snd_ice1724" module for alsa sound. However, when this module is loaded, I get the following in dmesg: invalid EEPROM (size = 255) ICE1724: probe of 0000:01:0f.0 failed with error -5 and therefor I never get a mixer device. Could somebody assist me in finding out whats wrong and how to fix it? Cheers! -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks > > > > > > rpm.livna.org I couldn't seem to find it, I tried: http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/testing and that s/testing/unstable/ and both report no updates (on an unpatched FC2 test1 box...). Could I bug you for the full url you're using? Carlos From sliceman at newsguy.com Thu Mar 25 17:52:49 2004 From: sliceman at newsguy.com (Charlie Vanderslice) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:52:49 -0600 Subject: Video Lan on Fedora Core x86_64 Message-ID: <000101c41291$fdc6d240$6501a8c0@athlon64> Greetings all, Has anyone had any success getting VideoLan (VLC) or any other DVD playback/decoder software to work in the 64 bit (x86_64) test version of Fedora? I have tried compiling all the required elements from the sources but have had no luck. Specifically with FFMPEG and OPENSLP, both fail either when running configure or make. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Regards, Sliceman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Thu Mar 25 18:02:37 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:02:37 +0100 Subject: Yum mirrors for FC2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040325175259.GF1386@hemi.math.gatech.edu> References: <4061F4D9.3040802@chartermi.net> <1080161768.15043.20.camel@binkley> <20040325175259.GF1386@hemi.math.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20040325190237.434dd3dc.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:52:59 -0500, Carlos Villegas wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 03:56:09PM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 15:51 -0500, William Sullivan wrote: > > > > > I have been looking for some mirrors for FC2 test 1 for a while and i > > > have been able to find any that work. I am looking for mirrors where I > > > could get totem, xine and a few other programs not on the default > > > mirrors. Anyone now of any? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > rpm.livna.org > > I couldn't seem to find it, I tried: > > http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/testing > > and that s/testing/unstable/ > > and both report no updates (on an unpatched FC2 test1 box...). > Could I bug you for the full url you're using? visit http://rpm.livna.org and browse the repository to find out whether the package you search for is in "stable", "testing" or "unstable". -- hint: /stable ;) From villegas at math.gatech.edu Thu Mar 25 18:23:06 2004 From: villegas at math.gatech.edu (Carlos Villegas) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:23:06 -0500 Subject: Yum mirrors for FC2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040325190237.434dd3dc.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <4061F4D9.3040802@chartermi.net> <1080161768.15043.20.camel@binkley> <20040325175259.GF1386@hemi.math.gatech.edu> <20040325190237.434dd3dc.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <20040325182306.GG1386@hemi.math.gatech.edu> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:52:59 -0500, Carlos Villegas wrote: > > I couldn't seem to find it, I tried: > > > > http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/testing > > > > and that s/testing/unstable/ > > > visit http://rpm.livna.org and browse the repository to find out > whether the package you search for is in "stable", "testing" > or "unstable". > > -- > hint: /stable ;) Hmmm... the only one I didn't try... Good thing Murphy's Law still applies :) Sorry and thanks, Carlos From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Thu Mar 25 18:28:02 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:28:02 -0700 Subject: Getting srpms with yum? In-Reply-To: <200403251743.34331.fritz.elfert@millenux.com> References: <200403251743.34331.fritz.elfert@millenux.com> Message-ID: <20040325182802.GF18775@ece.arizona.edu> On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 05:43:34PM +0100, Fritz Elfert wrote: > There's nothing mentioned about handling srpms in yum's manpages, so: > How do i setup yum for getting sources (similar to apt-get source )? Yum does not currently do anything with srpms. They're indexed by yum-arch, and yum will probably do stuff with them eventually, but not yet. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Thu Mar 25 19:51:14 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:51:14 -0600 Subject: Playing DVDs in FC2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <1080233797.3014.218.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <40622FE3.3080804@chartermi.net> <1080233797.3014.218.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <1080244274.3014.229.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> With the replacement of XFree86 with xorg, vlc is broke. Specifically vlc, aalib and mpeg2dec have dependencies to XFree86. Timothy On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 10:56, Timothy Sandel wrote: > I have used just about every DVD player available; including xine, ogg, > mplayer... give vlc (videolan.org) a try. It just works on about any OS > (I have successfully run it on windows, mac osx, BSD, and Linux > (Mandrake9, Redhat8/9 and FC1). I have not had a chance to try it on > FC2 because my sound is broke. > > > )On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 19:03, William Sullivan wrote: > > I am trying to play a DVD in FC2 test 1, I have totem installed and I > > have livna.org and fedora.us mirrors in my yum.conf. What additional > > files do I need for playing DVDs. Thanks > > > From SNielsen at comscore.com Thu Mar 25 19:59:19 2004 From: SNielsen at comscore.com (Nielsen, Steve) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:59:19 -0500 Subject: Pointers on how to test with rawhide Message-ID: <66E9FEE99E96034ABB4DE197A927DBF101CC1CB8@csiadmail01.office.comscore.com> I want to test the latest stuff in fedora core 2. Is it best to install from fc2 test 1 then use yum to update? Or is it better to install directly from rawhide then update with yum from that? Any pointers are appreciated. Steve From thias at spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net Thu Mar 25 20:22:02 2004 From: thias at spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net (Matthias Saou) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:22:02 +0100 Subject: Playing DVDs in FC2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <1080244274.3014.229.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <40622FE3.3080804@chartermi.net> <1080233797.3014.218.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080244274.3014.229.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <20040325212202.60bf3d13@localhost> Timothy Sandel wrote : > With the replacement of XFree86 with xorg, vlc is broke. Specifically > vlc, aalib and mpeg2dec have dependencies to XFree86. I thought this could wait for the final release, bit it seems quite a lot of people are reporting the problem. I'll rebuild the few packages I have with an explicit dependency on XFree86, so it should go away. Matthias -- Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/ Fedora Core release 1 (Yarrow) - Linux kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253 Load : 0.56 0.80 0.75 From hirvox at welho.com Thu Mar 25 20:45:50 2004 From: hirvox at welho.com (Mika Hirvonen) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:45:50 +0200 Subject: FC1 -> Rawhide, LVM2 can't lock disks due to LVM1? Message-ID: <406344FE.8060504@welho.com> I recently upgraded to Rawhide with yum, and I'm running into problems with my LVM setup. My /boot is ext3, but everything else, including / is using ext3 over LVM1. The new kernel (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) doesn't seem to find my root partition, although it did find and activate my volume group. If I try to mount my root manually, mount complains about an invalid block device. I can boot using my old kernel (2.4.22-1.2174), though. I did try to follow the instructions in http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/msg00208.html and made the /etc/lvm directory and tried rebooting with the old kernel, but /sbin/lvm vgscan --mknodes complains that it couldn't lock the drives: --clip-- [root at nightwatch root]# /sbin/lvm vgscan --mknodes Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... /dev/cdrom: open failed: Read-only file system /proc/lvm/VGs/disks exists: Is the original LVM driver using this volume group ? Can't lock disks: skipping /proc/lvm/VGs/disks exists: Is the original LVM driver using this volume group ? Can't lock disks: skipping --clip-- So, how can I disable LVM1 temporarily so LVM2 can access the disks? -- Mika Hirvonen http://nightwatch.mine.nu/ From mharris at redhat.com Thu Mar 25 20:53:13 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:53:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: xorg-x11-libs uninstall: "line 10: syntax error near unexpected token `fi'" Message-ID: If anyone experiences this problem when upgrading xorg-x11, from xorg-x11-libs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.6 to any newer release, please just ignore the problem. It is a bug in the xorg-x11-libs 2004_03_11.6 %postun script, which has already been fixed in newer rpms. When upgrading from the 2004_03_11.6 build to the bug fixed version, you WILL still see the error message anyway when upgrading because it is the OLD buggy xorg-x11-libs %postun script which gets executed when the package is upgraded, so even though the NEW package does NOT have this bug, you will still see the error when upgrading. Just ignore the error. For further details: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118890 Please pass this on to any other mailing lists or persons whom stumble upon the error and are not sure what to do. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From bartk at clara.co.uk Thu Mar 25 21:31:53 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:31:53 +0000 Subject: new kernels, cifs and new webmin Message-ID: <40634FC9.5040106@clara.co.uk> There is a new pre-release of webmin that supports cifs u can download it from: http://www.webmin.com/devel/rpm/webmin-1.139-1.noarch.rpm but, there is still a problem with mounting windows shares. Error I'm geting here is: invalid or missing username strange since everything works fine with the same credentials once I rebuild Kernel with smbmnt support. anybody knows where the problem might be? -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From aoliva at redhat.com Thu Mar 25 21:37:02 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 25 Mar 2004 18:37:02 -0300 Subject: FC1 -> Rawhide, LVM2 can't lock disks due to LVM1? In-Reply-To: <406344FE.8060504@welho.com> References: <406344FE.8060504@welho.com> Message-ID: On Mar 25, 2004, Mika Hirvonen wrote: > [root at nightwatch root]# /sbin/lvm vgscan --mknodes [...] > Can't lock disks: skipping --ignorelockingfailure, if you're sure you're not doing other operations, or `mount -o remount,rw /' to enable locking to work. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From mharris at redhat.com Thu Mar 25 21:45:04 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:45:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: xorg install - X won't start completely In-Reply-To: <40624964.7070803@insight.rr.com> References: <1079911834.5705.8.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405E3EA1.20503@insight.rr.com> <1079957374.5705.12.camel@shep.shepherdnet.net> <405F9980.1010209@insight.rr.com> <1080017759.6756.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40624964.7070803@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: >> Also, xorg supports running without XF86config. I used this to fix mine >> after it wouldn't find my fonts. Although it was running at limited >> resolution. > >How does it support running without a configuration file? By using sane built-in defaults for things, with better autodetection than in past releases of XFree86. Note that while the X server can now work much better without any config file by default, it WILL NOT be 100% perfect for use in this manner for everyone. Rather, the configfile-less operation is intended to be used for minimal environments such as OS installers, and to make it easier to bring the X server up without any config file for the purpose of creating a config file with GUI tools. >Is there another file for configuring X somewhere? No. >Or you talking about the old configuration program before >redhat-config-xfree86? No, I'm talking about the X server being smarter now, and having built in configuration that is used if a config file is not present, where the X server makes a valiant attempt to autodetect the hardware as best it can, and provide some sane default settings in an attempt to be able to start up at all, without requiring itself to be configured first. >If it figured out dynamically which settings were best for the >machine. It seems that there would be long delays starting and >a chance of over-excercising the video card with setting trials. If you're interested in the implementation aspects of the autoconfiguration bits, you can find the X server sources in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86 in an exploded tarball if you like. The upstream development of X.org X11 is being done entirely on public mailing lists, with open collaboration and contribution also, so if you find any problems with the autoconfiguration mechanisms, or if you've got ideas for improvements, upstream development would be happy to have additional volunteer contributions and/or suggestions. >If it went by some database for cards, took the settings, stored >the settings in specific registers, then used other standardized >schemes, it might work. The autoconfiguration stuff that is there right now, is not really intended to be a full replacement for the config file, which everyone should use instead of configuring their X server, but rather it is intended to make it easier to get the X server up and running at all in lieu of a config file. I'm sure there are likely many ways this can be improved in the future, however the existing autoconfig stuff is useful anyway in some circumstances for some users. It's also useful in testing environments. Feel free to join in the X.org development effort if you're interested, as fresh ideas are always welcome from new volunteers! Take care, TTYL -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From w.steenburg at myactv.net Thu Mar 25 21:47:52 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:47:52 -0500 Subject: Yum mirrors for FC2 test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040325175259.GF1386@hemi.math.gatech.edu> References: <4061F4D9.3040802@chartermi.net> <1080161768.15043.20.camel@binkley> <20040325175259.GF1386@hemi.math.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1080251272.3501.13.camel@FC2> > I couldn't seem to find it, I tried: > > http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/testing Carlos, I see that you've found your answer. I just thought I'd add one thing. IIRC on an updated system the $releasever is now 1.91. However the mirrors don't "seem" to use that. You might want to change any "$releasever" to 1.90 in your yum.conf. Wayne Steenburg From mharris at redhat.com Thu Mar 25 21:48:15 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:48:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: x.org and Radwon IGP 320M In-Reply-To: <20040325133324.4685.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040325133324.4685.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Parrish M Myers wrote: >I haven't had a chance to try the new x.org X server... But does anyone >know if it supports the ATI Radeon Mobility U1 (IGP 320M) video chip >out of the box? Or can I still get the drivers from SUSE? The Radeon Mobility U1 should work in Red Hat Linux 9, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3, Fedora Core 1 with XFree86 4.3.0 2D only. It also should work with xorg-x11 2D only. 3D support is not included in xorg-x11 nor in XFree86 4.4.0. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From czar at czarc.net Thu Mar 25 21:52:59 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:52:59 -0500 Subject: Pointers on how to test with rawhide In-Reply-To: <66E9FEE99E96034ABB4DE197A927DBF101CC1CB8@csiadmail01.office.comscore.com> References: <66E9FEE99E96034ABB4DE197A927DBF101CC1CB8@csiadmail01.office.comscore.com> Message-ID: <200403251652.59131.czar@czarc.net> On Thursday 25 March 2004 14:59, Nielsen, Steve wrote: > I want to test the latest stuff in fedora core 2. > > Is it best to install from fc2 test 1 then use yum to update? Or is it > better to install directly from rawhide then update with yum from that? So much has changed between FC2 Test1 and what is in development (rawhide) that I would recommend installing the stuff in development. Even those who updated often had lots of problems. Alternatively, wait until early next week and download the ISOs. -- Gene From w.steenburg at myactv.net Thu Mar 25 21:56:28 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:56:28 -0500 Subject: missing firewire module on 2.6.4-1.281 kernel In-Reply-To: <4062E92E.30400@clara.co.uk> References: <1080171473.2247.3.camel@FC2> <4062E8F9.3030108@yahoo.com.br> <4062E92E.30400@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <1080251788.3501.16.camel@FC2> > > Where do I get the 2.6.4? > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ It also is available at fedora.us and at least some of their mirrors. I wonder why it's not at Redhat's fedora repo? Wayne Steenburg From alan at redhat.com Thu Mar 25 21:57:14 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:57:14 -0500 Subject: x.org and Radwon IGP 320M In-Reply-To: References: <20040325133324.4685.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040325215714.GA12038@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 04:48:15PM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > It also should work with xorg-x11 2D only. > > 3D support is not included in xorg-x11 nor in XFree86 4.4.0. Seems to work ok with Xorg/4.4 IFF you replace the kernel dri modules with the DRI devel one From mharris at redhat.com Thu Mar 25 22:08:51 2004 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:08:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: x.org and Radwon IGP 320M In-Reply-To: <20040325215714.GA12038@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040325133324.4685.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> <20040325215714.GA12038@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Alan Cox wrote: >> It also should work with xorg-x11 2D only. >> >> 3D support is not included in xorg-x11 nor in XFree86 4.4.0. > >Seems to work ok with Xorg/4.4 IFF you replace the kernel dri modules >with the DRI devel one That's not supplied nor supported by Red Hat though. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat From netopml at newview.com Thu Mar 25 22:56:10 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 25 Mar 2004 17:56:10 -0500 Subject: x.org fails on opening libXmuu.so.1 In-Reply-To: <406291F2.8020700@inksystems.net> References: <406291F2.8020700@inksystems.net> Message-ID: list at inksystems.net ("Igor N. Kolomiyets") writes: > Append the following into /etc/ld.so.conf: > > /usr/X11R6/lib > > run ldconfig > > and reboot the box. It should help. Forget the reboot, it's useless unless your box crashed. -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From willje01 at luther.edu Thu Mar 25 23:07:43 2004 From: willje01 at luther.edu (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:07:43 -0600 Subject: apt-get dist-upgrade fails Message-ID: <4063663F.50502@luther.edu> i'm running fc2 test 1 and when i run "apt-get dist-upgrade" i get the following output (i have only included the last lines since everything above this seemed to be fine): Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-devel_6%3a3.2.1-1.5_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase_6%3a3.2.1-1.5_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel#2.6.4-1.281_2.6.4-1.281_i686.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-devel_6%3a3.2.1-4_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim_6%3a3.2.1-4_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/Glide3_20010520-30_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gedit_1%3a2.5.92-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libwnck_2.5.90-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libbonobo-devel_2.6.0-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libbonobo_2.6.0-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-mime-data_2.4.1-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/shared-mime-info_0.14-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/a2ps_4.13b-37_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-source#2.6.4-1.281_2.6.4-1.281_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/Glide3-devel_20010520-30_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/freeglut_2.2.0-11_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK E: Error: 16 unsigned package(s) 0 package(s)s with unknown signatures 0 package(s) with illegal/corrupted signatures these are pretty important packages. is it just that they are so new that they have not been signed yet? is there a way in apt-get that i can tell it to not give me the latest version of these files? thank you much. jeff williams From geoff at cdepot.net Thu Mar 25 23:21:07 2004 From: geoff at cdepot.net (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 23:21:07 +0000 Subject: Desperately seeking Test 2 CDR/DVD Message-ID: <1080256867l.666l.1l@mtranch> I have a dual Opteron system that has only SATA disks sitting idle, on which I would very much like to install Test 2. Because of the SATA disks, Core 1 won't install. I anyone knows of a source for Test 2 on CDR/DVD, (when relesed, of course) I'd appreciate hearing of it. My internet connection if 26KB on a good day. That's why I don't burn the ISOs. Best Regards. From czar at czarc.net Thu Mar 25 22:20:43 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:20:43 -0500 Subject: selinux Message-ID: <200403251720.43406.czar@czarc.net> Since the fedora-selinux mailing list is not very busy (not clear how many subscribers there are), I am asking this question here to hopefully get more responses. Is anyone successfully running FC2 "current" development with selinux running in enforcing mode? If you are running selinux in enforcing mode, what (if anything) did you need to change to get it to work? That is, once you complete the install, did you need to do anything? -- Gene From davej at redhat.com Fri Mar 26 00:30:37 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 00:30:37 +0000 Subject: missing firewire module on 2.6.4-1.281 kernel In-Reply-To: <1080251788.3501.16.camel@FC2> References: <1080171473.2247.3.camel@FC2> <4062E8F9.3030108@yahoo.com.br> <4062E92E.30400@clara.co.uk> <1080251788.3501.16.camel@FC2> Message-ID: <1080261037.25702.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 21:56, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > > > > Where do I get the 2.6.4? > > > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ > > It also is available at fedora.us and at least some of their mirrors. I > wonder why it's not at Redhat's fedora repo? Because rawhide is currently frozen for test2. This happens every release. Dave From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Fri Mar 26 01:19:01 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:19:01 -0600 Subject: Difficulties with IC Ensemble Inc ICE1724 [Envy24HT] and snd_ice1724 In-Reply-To: <200403250942.58727.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <200403250942.58727.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <40638505.2050100@austin.rr.com> Jesse Keating wrote: >So I have a nice shiny new x86_64 system, based on the Chaintech NF3-150 >board. This board has the IC Ensemble Inc ICE1724 [Envy24HT] onboard >sound system. The 2.6 kernel from FC2 development detects this as >needing the "snd_ice1724" module for alsa sound. However, when this >module is loaded, I get the following in dmesg: > >invalid EEPROM (size = 255) >ICE1724: probe of 0000:01:0f.0 failed with error -5 > >and therefor I never get a mixer device. Could somebody assist me in >finding out whats wrong and how to fix it? > >Cheers! > > > This is a problem with ALSA, I have filed a bug report on ALSA's bug tracker Mantis (I have a Chaintech ZNF3-150 as well). If you wish to see the status of the bug please see my forum I setup at http://bhpdc-forums.dyndns.org/alsa or check the official bugnotes at https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000142 Currently the specific chipset (the VT1720) is not programmed into alsa and one of the devs is trying to get Vias information at the moment. -- Jason Knight Fedora Core *x86_64* From reader at newsguy.com Fri Mar 26 01:54:27 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:54:27 -0600 Subject: new kernels, cifs and new webmin References: <40634FC9.5040106@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: Bart Kalita writes: > but, there is still a problem with mounting windows shares. > > Error I'm geting here is: invalid or missing username > > strange since everything works fine with the same credentials once I rebuild Kernel with smbmnt support. > > anybody knows where the problem might be? So are you able to supply a username and then it mounts? If so, is it writable? I ask because I've been consistently able to mount with cifs but cannot write to the mounted fs. And like you, enabling smbfs in kernel and it works like always... that is, read write is seamless. Can you post your mount command? Mine from fstab: (wrapped for mail) //exp-xp/J-ahn-d /mnt/J-ahn-d cifs noauto,username=Harry,password="" From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 26 02:02:22 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 18:02:22 -0800 Subject: Invalid GPG key from up2date for Fedora CORE 2 HELP! HELP! HELP! In-Reply-To: <00f201c41281$077a4030$04a8a8c0@p428> References: <00f201c41281$077a4030$04a8a8c0@p428> Message-ID: <20040326020222.GA10043@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:51:24AM -0500, mail at lotus-notes.net wrote: > > I have just spent the last 4 days downloading by hand about 200 of the 600 > more updates for Rawhide , Fedora Core 2, half wont even download and I am > wasting many hours each day on this with no end in site. > > This seems like a pretty obvious mistake, I ran the update with the command > line to update my cerficates directly from the Red Hat web site. It ran find > and said both my cerficates were up to date. > > > HELP! HELP! Pleasseeee. You can email me directly at mail at Lotus-Notes.Net > if you know the answer. You are using an overloaded or broken server. Have you seen the instructions for setting up yum or up2date to use a mirror? -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From rhallyx at mindspring.com Fri Mar 26 02:01:31 2004 From: rhallyx at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:01:31 -0500 Subject: selinux enforcing Message-ID: <40638EFB.3030300@mindspring.com> In reply to Gene C. on this list (his posting is on my other box), This message is being sent from Mozilla running on the current /development tree (at runlevel 5) in "enforcing mode". Below are the three avc denied messages from when I booted in enforcing mode. This is with the "as provided" policy with one change in the "users" file to add my username as an "admin". Once you have installed the policy and policy-sources and done "make reload" in /etc/security/selinux/src/policy you must also do "make relabel" (it can take a while) to label all the files correctly. Richard Hally from /var/log/messages: Mar 25 20:17:10 old1 kernel: audit(1080263823.652:0): avc: denied { append } for pid=1053 exe=/sbin/syslogd name=news.crit dev=hdc3 ino=196974 scontext=system_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:innd_log_t tclass=file Mar 25 20:17:10 old1 kernel: audit(1080263823.653:0): avc: denied { append } for pid=1053 exe=/sbin/syslogd name=news.err dev=hdc3 ino=196975 scontext=system_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:innd_log_t tclass=file Mar 25 20:17:10 old1 kernel: audit(1080263823.654:0): avc: denied { append } for pid=1053 exe=/sbin/syslogd name=news.notice dev=hdc3 ino=196973 scontext=system_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:innd_log_t tclass=file From parrishmyers at yahoo.com Fri Mar 26 02:15:22 2004 From: parrishmyers at yahoo.com (Parrish M Myers) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 18:15:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: x.org and Radwon IGP 320M In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040326021525.55217.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Excuse my ignorance... but is that the vesa driver or the ati driver? Which one is officially supported by redhat? The SUSE drivers I mentioned were the ati ones. --- "Mike A. Harris" wrote: > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Parrish M Myers wrote: > > >I haven't had a chance to try the new x.org X server... But does > anyone > >know if it supports the ATI Radeon Mobility U1 (IGP 320M) video chip > >out of the box? Or can I still get the drivers from SUSE? > > The Radeon Mobility U1 should work in Red Hat Linux 9, Red Hat > Enterprise Linux 3, Fedora Core 1 with XFree86 4.3.0 2D only. > > It also should work with xorg-x11 2D only. > > 3D support is not included in xorg-x11 nor in XFree86 4.4.0. > > > -- > Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris > OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list ===== "Parrish Myers" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. -- (Winston Churchill) From don.raikes at oracle.com Fri Mar 26 03:20:34 2004 From: don.raikes at oracle.com (donald raikes) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:20:34 -0700 Subject: fc2 test 1 install crash using brltty Message-ID: <200403260320.i2Q3Kip12418@rgmgw6.us.oracle.com> Hi all, I have been struggling with a problem getting fc2 installed while using brltty. All goes well until the post-install stage. Then I get an anaconda exception (see trace below). After trying this several times, I discovered the problem is that my braille display is using hte usb port, and anaconda is giving a device busy error for /dev/usb. Once I connect via serial port, the install finished just fine. This could be a problem not only for braille devices connected via usb, but also for disk drives as well. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/anaconda", line 1139, in ? intf.run(id, dispatch, configFileData) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/text.py", line 474, in run dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 168, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 236, in moveStep rc = apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/packages.py", line 1069, in doPostInstall isys.umount('/proc/bus/usb', removeDir = 0) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/isys.py", line 193, in umount rc = _isys.umount(what) SystemError: (16, 'Device or resource busy') Local variables in innermost frame: what: /proc/bus/usb removeDir: 0 From don.raikes at oracle.com Fri Mar 26 03:21:21 2004 From: don.raikes at oracle.com (donald raikes) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:21:21 -0700 Subject: console beep missing Message-ID: <200403260321.i2Q3LMU24139@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Hi all, Just got fc2 installed, and noticed that the console beep sound is missing. How do I re-enable it? From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 26 03:36:34 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:36:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: new kernels, cifs and new webmin In-Reply-To: References: <40634FC9.5040106@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <65079.65.41.50.216.1080272194.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Harry Putnam said: > If so, is it writable? I ask because I've been consistently able to > mount with cifs but cannot write to the mounted fs. [snip] > Can you post your mount command? > > Mine from fstab: > (wrapped for mail) > //exp-xp/J-ahn-d /mnt/J-ahn-d cifs > noauto,username=Harry,password="" Well, I'm not the OP, but: [whooper at poit whooper]$ uname -a Linux poit.private.whooper.org 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 #1 Fri Mar 12 14:01:55 EST 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [whooper at poit whooper]$ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release 1.91 (FC2) [whooper at poit whooper]$ sudo mount -t cifs -o username=whooper //brain/backups /mnt/temp/ Password: [whooper at poit whooper]$ cd /mnt/temp/ [whooper at poit temp]$ ls test ls: test: No such file or directory [whooper at poit temp]$ touch test [whooper at poit temp]$ ls test test [whooper at poit temp]$ rm test [whooper at poit temp]$ ls test ls: test: No such file or directory [whooper at poit temp]$ Brain is a Win2k Pro machine. Note that I have a non-blank password, but I don't know if that is your issue or not. -- William Hooper From katzj at redhat.com Fri Mar 26 03:34:38 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:34:38 -0500 Subject: selinux In-Reply-To: <200403251720.43406.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403251720.43406.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080272077.1850.18.camel@edoras.local.net> On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 17:20 -0500, Gene C. wrote: > Is anyone successfully running FC2 "current" development with selinux running > in enforcing mode? > > If you are running selinux in enforcing mode, what (if anything) did you need > to change to get it to work? That is, once you complete the install, did you > need to do anything? It's worked for me with current stuff. You will want to make sure you're running actual current development tree, though, as there have been a number of things in that area fixed over the past week. Jeremy From mdg149 at rcn.com Fri Mar 26 03:47:37 2004 From: mdg149 at rcn.com (Matt Graham) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:47:37 -0500 Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: <1080201840.19193.17.camel@T7.linux> References: <20040320222550.GB961396@hiwaay.net> <405CC7AE.5040605@gmx.de> <20040320224329.GC961396@hiwaay.net> <200403202213.24260.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <40626BE2.10105@rcn.com> <1080201840.19193.17.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <4063A7D9.1010103@rcn.com> Paul wrote: >On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 00:19 -0500, Matt Graham wrote: > > >>This a bit of a stupid question, but can I get a quick explanation on the difference between XFree86 and xorg? >> >> >The version of xorg x11 is effectively XFree86 4.4 without the licence >hassles. > > Thanks. I checked the license at xfree86.org and x.org and I don't see a big difference. What's the hassle with the license on XFree86? thanks, Matt From don.raikes at oracle.com Fri Mar 26 04:35:45 2004 From: don.raikes at oracle.com (donald raikes) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:35:45 -0700 Subject: spurious interrupt? Message-ID: <200403260435.i2Q4ZlU02116@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Hi all, I am attempting to run yum after a successful installation of fc2. While waiting for the dependencies to be resolved, I get the following message displayed: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7 Any idea what may be causing this? I am running on a compaq deskpro/en with 2 nic's only one of which is currently attached to the network. From reader at newsguy.com Fri Mar 26 07:15:15 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:15:15 -0600 Subject: new kernels, cifs and new webmin In-Reply-To: <65079.65.41.50.216.1080272194.squirrel@65.41.50.216> (William Hooper's message of "Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:36:34 -0500 (EST)") References: <40634FC9.5040106@clara.co.uk> <65079.65.41.50.216.1080272194.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: "William Hooper" writes: > [whooper at poit whooper]$ sudo mount -t cifs -o username=whooper > //brain/backups /mnt/temp/ > Password: > [whooper at poit whooper]$ cd /mnt/temp/ > [whooper at poit temp]$ ls test > ls: test: No such file or directory > [whooper at poit temp]$ touch test > [whooper at poit temp]$ ls test > test > [whooper at poit temp]$ rm test > [whooper at poit temp]$ ls test > ls: test: No such file or directory > [whooper at poit temp]$ > > Brain is a Win2k Pro machine. Note that I have a non-blank password, but > I don't know if that is your issue or not. You're having no problem writing... In my case the //HOST is win-xp pro and share /J-ahn-d has win-xp permissions settings of [x] Share this folder on the network [x] Allow network users to change files No password. Far as I know there is no other settings available. Than what appear on the dialog box where I've checked the above. I've just tried several incantations using mount -t like your example. It will mount even with no -o (options) given. Or as you''ve done with a username only. But still I cannot write to it. I've spoken with Steve French about this. He is one of the upstream mainters of cifs, but still haven't found the reason or a solution. All commands are done as root: mount -t cifs -o username=reader //exp-xp/J-ahn-d /mnt/J-ahn-d Password: mount [...] /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/exp type ext3 (rw) //exp-xp/J-ahn-d on /mnt/J-ahn-d type cifs (0) What is strange is that I CAN delete files: # ls /mnt/J-ahn-d/new/conf.txt /mnt/J-ahn-d/new/conf.txt # rm /mnt/J-ahn-d/new/conf.txt rm: remove regular file `/mnt/J-ahn-d/new/conf.txt'? y # ls /mnt/J-ahn-d/new/conf.txt ls: /mnt/J-ahn-d/new/conf.txt: No such file or directory But cannot create them: touch /mnt/J-ahn-d/new/conf.txt touch: cannot touch `/mnt/J-ahn-d/new/conf.txt': Permission denied (Or any other name) But reverting to smbfs with no other changes and there is no problem. From julius at solutions-i.org Fri Mar 26 15:17:43 2004 From: julius at solutions-i.org (P.I.Julius) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:17:43 -0500 Subject: xorg-x11 pcf fonts not loaded Message-ID: <1080314263.5491.4.camel@julius> Hi all, I have installed the new xorg-x11 x server and now my pcf (bitmap) font's are not working. If i run the gnome-font-properties and i select a bitmap font for e.g. Helvetica (~/.fonts/helvR12.pcf.gz) i get this error: ** (gnome-font-properties:5130): WARNING **: Cannot open font file for font Helvetica 10 Thanks in advance, Julius From Jarkko.Vatjus-Anttila at elektrobit.com Fri Mar 26 09:15:40 2004 From: Jarkko.Vatjus-Anttila at elektrobit.com (Jarkko.Vatjus-Anttila at elektrobit.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:15:40 +0200 Subject: DVD images of new FC Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know will there be DVD iso images for upcoming FC that should be released shortly (hopefully). - jarkko Please note: This e-mail may contain privileged and confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, publication, dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the information in this message is strictly prohibited. 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From linux00 at kornet.net Fri Mar 26 10:42:05 2004 From: linux00 at kornet.net (sangu) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:42:05 +0900 Subject: xorg-x11 pcf fonts not loaded In-Reply-To: <1080288847172617266.0.ppp7@ppp7> References: <1080288847172617266.0.ppp7@ppp7> Message-ID: <1080297725.9706.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Please see : http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118587 This prolem probably was fixed in xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9. 2004-03-26 (?) 10:17 -0500?, P.I.Julius ???: > Hi all, > > I have installed the new xorg-x11 x server and now my pcf (bitmap) > font's are not working. If i run the gnome-font-properties and i select > a bitmap font for e.g. Helvetica (~/.fonts/helvR12.pcf.gz) i get this > error: > ** (gnome-font-properties:5130): WARNING **: Cannot open font file for > font Helvetica 10 > > Thanks in advance, > Julius > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Fri Mar 26 11:47:06 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:47:06 +0200 Subject: The new file selector and hidden files Message-ID: <1080301625.7355.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> How do I get the new file selector to show hidden files, or at least to open them. From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Fri Mar 26 11:50:26 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:50:26 +0200 Subject: dependency hell Message-ID: <1080301825.7355.88.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have noticed something worrying about dependencies in Fedora. This is the output of "apt-get remove qt" [root at localhost maynard]# apt-get remove qt Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: abiword arts arts-devel bug-buddy chromium control-center desktop-printing epiphany evolution firstboot gdm gnome-applets gnome-blog gnome-desktop gnome-media gnome-panel gnome-pilot gnome-pilot-conduits gnome-python2-applet gnome-session gnome-themes-extras gnome-utils gnome-volume-manager gstreamer-plugins gstreamer-plugins-audio gstreamer-plugins-devel gstreamer-plugins-extra-audio gstreamer-plugins-extra-dvd gstreamer-plugins-extra-video kernel-source#2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 metacity mplayer mplayer-gui nautilus nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-media qt qt-designer qt-devel redhat-artwork rhythmbox system-config-display 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 42 removed and 32 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 410MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Abort. This is worrying. Is there any reason for GNOME programs to have dependencies on qt. This is possible, and probably is a result of the whole redhat-artwork thingy. Can these be built in such a way that it is possible to remove qt without removing non qt related packages. From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Fri Mar 26 11:55:26 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:55:26 +0200 Subject: DVD images of new FC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080302125.7355.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 11:15, Jarkko.Vatjus-Anttila at elektrobit.com wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know will there be DVD iso images for upcoming FC that should be > released shortly (hopefully). > > - jarkko > > > > > Please note: This e-mail may contain privileged and confidential information > and is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended > recipient or an employee responsible for delivering this message to the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, publication, > dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the information in this > message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail by error, > please notify the sender immediately by replying to the message and > subsequently delete it from your system. > > E-mail is susceptible to data corruption, interception, unauthorized > amendment, tampering and viruses. We only send and receive e-mail messages > on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, > amendment, tampering, viruses, any other reprehensible acts or any > consequences of the aforementioned. > I think is the interests of saving space, what is more needed is a script which is part of the isos which can automate the making of the dvd from the normal isos. This will require more space, but probably more efficient for everyone too, since you will only have to redownload 1 iso if something goes wrong, rather than a whole dvd iso. From dfpena at uci.edu Fri Mar 26 12:14:56 2004 From: dfpena at uci.edu (Dave Pena) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 04:14:56 -0800 Subject: dependency hell In-Reply-To: <1080301825.7355.88.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080301825.7355.88.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080303295.13952.0.camel@host.harmonic.org> To this I'm sorry for adding to the 1 million emails everyone is going to get tomorrow, but all I have to say is HAHAHAHAHAHA. On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 03:50, Maynard Kuona wrote: > I have noticed something worrying about dependencies in Fedora. This is > the output of "apt-get remove qt" > > [root at localhost maynard]# apt-get remove qt > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following packages will be REMOVED: > abiword arts arts-devel bug-buddy chromium control-center > desktop-printing > epiphany evolution firstboot gdm gnome-applets gnome-blog > gnome-desktop > gnome-media gnome-panel gnome-pilot gnome-pilot-conduits > gnome-python2-applet gnome-session gnome-themes-extras > gnome-utils > gnome-volume-manager gstreamer-plugins gstreamer-plugins-audio > gstreamer-plugins-devel gstreamer-plugins-extra-audio > gstreamer-plugins-extra-dvd gstreamer-plugins-extra-video > kernel-source#2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 metacity mplayer mplayer-gui > nautilus > nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-media qt qt-designer qt-devel > redhat-artwork > rhythmbox system-config-display > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 42 removed and 32 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B of archives. > After unpacking 410MB disk space will be freed. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n > Abort. > > This is worrying. Is there any reason for GNOME programs to have > dependencies on qt. This is possible, and probably is a result of the > whole redhat-artwork thingy. Can these be built in such a way that it is > possible to remove qt without removing non qt related packages. > > > From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Fri Mar 26 12:31:02 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:31:02 -0500 Subject: spurious interrupt? In-Reply-To: <200403260435.i2Q4ZlU02116@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> References: <200403260435.i2Q4ZlU02116@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Message-ID: <40642286.6000605@insight.rr.com> donald raikes wrote: > Hi all, > > I am attempting to run yum after a successful installation of fc2. > > While waiting for the dependencies to be resolved, I get the following message displayed: > > spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7 > > Any idea what may be causing this? > I am running on a compaq deskpro/en with 2 nic's only one of which is currently attached to the network. > > I got this error periodically with an old laptop that I don't have any longer. It was a Toshiba 490 CDT and the error did not do any noticable damage. It looks like this error is common with Debian users on a quick google. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200110/msg04631.html This particular laptop had a pcmcia card for the network using the pcnet_cs module. I am curious as to what is causing this error too, but don't get the error any more. (no 490 CDT any longer). Jim From DvdBtty at netscape.net Fri Mar 26 13:13:30 2004 From: DvdBtty at netscape.net (David McCormick) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:13:30 -0500 Subject: FC2 Address Message-ID: <40642C7A.6040305@netscape.net> I am unable to find the fc2 iso's on any of the sites that I know of. Can someone give me the address of a site that has them on it. Thanks Dave From sysadmin at fleetone.com Fri Mar 26 13:13:55 2004 From: sysadmin at fleetone.com (Rob Freeman) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:13:55 -0600 Subject: FC2 Address References: <40642C7A.6040305@netscape.net> Message-ID: <08a101c41334$31123340$45a610ac@fleetone.com> > I am unable to find the fc2 iso's on any of the sites that I know of. > Can someone give me the address of a site that has them on it. Thanks > > Dave > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.90/i386/iso/ Rob From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri Mar 26 13:32:14 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:32:14 +0200 Subject: FC2 iso address Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C1809C21F@eemail1.microlink.lan> Rob Freeman wrote: > Sent: 26. m?rts 2004. a. 15:14 > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: FC2 Address > > > > I am unable to find the fc2 iso's on any of the sites that > I know of. > > Can someone give me the address of a site that has them on > it. Thanks > > > > Dave > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.90/i386/iso/ > > Rob You may get better results from a mirror. Choose one from http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html Then go to the "test/1.90/i386/iso" (Test1) subdirectory. Updates can be found in Rawhide in the "development/i386/Fedora/RPMS" subdirectory. That's how it is on my favorite mirror, anyway. (I ain't tellin' which one.) Supposedly, we're going to get Test2 Monday. After Test2's release I expect to be downloading from the "test/1.91/i386/iso" subdirectory. Fred From aoliva at redhat.com Fri Mar 26 13:44:00 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 26 Mar 2004 10:44:00 -0300 Subject: console beep missing In-Reply-To: <200403260321.i2Q3LMU24139@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> References: <200403260321.i2Q3LMU24139@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Message-ID: On Mar 26, 2004, donald raikes wrote: > Just got fc2 installed, and noticed that the console beep sound is missing. > How do I re-enable it? Could it just be that the default volume is set to zero by alsa, the new sound system? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri Mar 26 13:21:01 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:21:01 +0100 Subject: FC2 Address In-Reply-To: <40642C7A.6040305@netscape.net> References: <40642C7A.6040305@netscape.net> Message-ID: <40642E3D.4050401@gmx.de> David McCormick wrote: > I am unable to find the fc2 iso's http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html fc2 ?? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/ does not exist fc2 test 1 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.90/i386/iso/ fc2 test2 is coming soon http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ 29 Marchc test2, string build freeze (builds completed) -- shrek-m From Chris at Funderburg.com Fri Mar 26 13:59:00 2004 From: Chris at Funderburg.com (Chris Funderburg) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:59:00 +0000 Subject: console beep missing In-Reply-To: <200403260321.i2Q3LMU24139@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> References: <200403260321.i2Q3LMU24139@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Message-ID: <40643724.6030404@Funderburg.com> donald raikes wrote: >Hi all, >Just got fc2 installed, and noticed that the console beep sound is missing. > >How do I re-enable it? > > > > modprobe pcspkr From czar at czarc.net Fri Mar 26 12:22:11 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:22:11 -0500 Subject: selinux In-Reply-To: <1080272077.1850.18.camel@edoras.local.net> References: <200403251720.43406.czar@czarc.net> <1080272077.1850.18.camel@edoras.local.net> Message-ID: <200403260722.11744.czar@czarc.net> On Thursday 25 March 2004 22:34, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 17:20 -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > Is anyone successfully running FC2 "current" development with selinux > > running in enforcing mode? > > > > If you are running selinux in enforcing mode, what (if anything) did you > > need to change to get it to work? That is, once you complete the > > install, did you need to do anything? > > It's worked for me with current stuff. You will want to make sure > you're running actual current development tree, though, as there have > been a number of things in that area fixed over the past week. Then there is either something dramatically wrong or I do not understand what is happening. I downloaded x86_64/images/boot.iso, x86_64/Fedora/base/*, and x86_64/Fedora/RPMS/* from sunsite.mff.cuni.cz (reported to be up to date). I then did an "everything" nfs install. I installed in permissive mode and booted up to make sure everything works (had to disable kudzu because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119011). The then edited /etc/sysconfig/selinux to change to enforcing mode and rebooted. The reboot got lots and lots of extra messages ("audit ... avc: denied") plus some services failed startup. Teh I get a popup that gdm cannot start because something about "Can't find gdm user". When I tried to login as root from a VT, more messages and the login failed. I had to reboot up in single user mode to change /etc/sysconfig/selinus to change back to permissive mode. I assume that the above is not your experience. -- Gene From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 26 06:59:04 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:59:04 -0800 Subject: selinux In-Reply-To: <200403251720.43406.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403251720.43406.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040326065904.GF11021@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 05:20:43PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > Since the fedora-selinux mailing list is not very busy (not clear how many > subscribers there are), I am asking this question here to hopefully get more > responses. > > Is anyone successfully running FC2 "current" development with selinux running > in enforcing mode? Yes. > If you are running selinux in enforcing mode, what (if anything) did you need > to change to get it to work? That is, once you complete the install, did you > need to do anything? There are a couple of things that are handy to know in development cycle mode. logger "Turning Enforcing OFF" echo "0" > /selinux/enforce and logger "Turning Enforcing ON" echo "1" > /selinux/enforce Depending on the brokenness of things I tinkered with: yum, up2date, rpm and make (in /etc/security/selinux/src/policy) can fail when enforcing is on. Knowing how to turn off enforcing to deal with some adventure in your setup or 'policy' is nice to know. Read the Makefile in /etc/security/selinux/src/policy Don't forget for SELinux you also need to install: policycoreutils, policy-sources, checkpolicy, policy Go back a week or two in the archives of this list. The transition from XFree86 to xorg-x11 will catch ya. Good hints have been posted. I did add but never used a backup set of lines in my /boot/grub/grub.config just in case I got too crazy, they looks like... title Fedora Core ENFORCING (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 ro root=LABEL=/ enforcing=1 initrd /initrd-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.img title Fedora Core (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 ro root=LABEL=/ enforcing=0 initrd /initrd-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.img Anyhow it has firmed up nicely in the last week for me. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From rpjday at mindspring.com Fri Mar 26 13:13:02 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:13:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2 Address In-Reply-To: <40642C7A.6040305@netscape.net> References: <40642C7A.6040305@netscape.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, David McCormick wrote: > I am unable to find the fc2 iso's on any of the sites that I know of. > Can someone give me the address of a site that has them on it. Thanks patience, grasshopper. the official schedule suggests the madness doesn't start until this coming monday. rday p.s. this suggests that you're looking for the upcoming fc2-test2. this close to its availability, it would be kinda silly to be tracking down test1 for anything. From markf78 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 26 05:10:18 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:10:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: XFree86->xorg-x11 conversion In-Reply-To: <4063A7D9.1010103@rcn.com> Message-ID: <20040326051018.90654.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- > >>This a bit of a stupid question, but can I get a quick explanation on the > difference between XFree86 and xorg? check out the archives... this has probably been covered like a million times in the past month if not more. mark. :-) p.s. ok, i'm exaggerating a little but it has been covered numerous times by Mike Harris & others. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From wolters.liste at gmx.net Fri Mar 26 14:14:33 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:14:33 +0100 Subject: Bad or non implemented Greek (and other) fonts? In-Reply-To: <200403251807.52587.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200403251807.52587.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200403261514.33917.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Roland Wolters wrote: > I try to get all the fonts on my linux which I need to read Greek or other > non-latin sites without any problems. > But there are several problems: it seems that fedora comes with a basic > Greek font, but its far away from correct displaying Greek > (http://el.wikipedia.org/). > And Hindi is not supported in any way, its impossible to read hindi with > Fedora Core 2 Test1 as long as you do not try to fix by hand. > > Why don't they add the missing files? It seems that XFree86 and X.org are > having the files they need, following Markus Kuhn at > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html > > Linux do not need all the UTF-8 support as long as its not able to display > some of the "large" fonts/alphabets (hindi and greek) from start on - I > know that I can fix it by hand, but thats not the question for the "normal" > users. > I cant understand why no one is interested in that - is my english too bad? DO you understand what I mean? Confused, Roland From pmatilai at welho.com Fri Mar 26 07:03:05 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:03:05 +0200 (EET) Subject: apt-get dist-upgrade fails In-Reply-To: <4063663F.50502@luther.edu> References: <4063663F.50502@luther.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Jeff Williams wrote: > i'm running fc2 test 1 and when i run "apt-get dist-upgrade" i get the > following output (i have only included the last lines since everything > above this seemed to be fine): > > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-devel_6%3a3.2.1-1.5_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK ... > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/freeglut_2.2.0-11_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > E: Error: 16 unsigned package(s) > 0 package(s)s with unknown signatures > 0 package(s) with illegal/corrupted signatures > > these are pretty important packages. is it just that they are so new > that they have not been signed yet? Rawhide packages aren't usually signed at all, though on occasion the Fedora-test-GPG key is used to sign 'em. It's quite ok to ignore the missing signatures of rawhide as long as you're using a trustworthy mirror (an IP-only address given by some warez-dude at irc.. I wouldn't trust that :) - you don't want to run rawhide on important systems anyway. You can temporarily disable GPG checking by using "-o rpm::gpg-check=false" option, or put that to apt.conf to permanently disable the check. > is there a way in apt-get that i can tell it to not give me the latest > version of these files? thank you much. Yup.. if you really want, you can do that but it's kinda pointless in rawhide. For ugly details of how to do it see "man apt_preferences". - Panu - From jkeating at j2solutions.net Fri Mar 26 06:14:41 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:14:41 -0800 Subject: Difficulties with IC Ensemble Inc ICE1724 [Envy24HT] and snd_ice1724 In-Reply-To: <40638505.2050100@austin.rr.com> References: <200403250942.58727.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <40638505.2050100@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <200403252214.41383.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Thursday 25 March 2004 17:19, Jason Knight wrote: > This is a problem with ALSA, I have filed a bug report on ALSA's bug > tracker Mantis (I have a Chaintech ZNF3-150 as well). If you wish to see > the status of the bug please see my forum I setup at > http://bhpdc-forums.dyndns.org/alsa or check the official bugnotes at > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000 >142 > > Currently the specific chipset (the VT1720) is not programmed into alsa > and one of the devs is trying to get Vias information at the moment. Ah! Great to hear that work is being done. In the mean time, I'll toss back in the SB Live that I removed in favor of this board's onboard sound (so that I could use the front audio panel). Cheers! -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 26 14:42:58 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:42:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: new kernels, cifs and new webmin In-Reply-To: References: <40634FC9.5040106@clara.co.uk> <65079.65.41.50.216.1080272194.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <65392.65.41.50.216.1080312178.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Harry Putnam said: > "William Hooper" writes: > >> [whooper at poit whooper]$ sudo mount -t cifs -o username=whooper >> //brain/backups /mnt/temp/ >> Password: >> [whooper at poit whooper]$ cd /mnt/temp/ >> [whooper at poit temp]$ ls test >> ls: test: No such file or directory >> [whooper at poit temp]$ touch test >> [whooper at poit temp]$ ls test >> test >> [whooper at poit temp]$ rm test >> [whooper at poit temp]$ ls test >> ls: test: No such file or directory >> [whooper at poit temp]$ >> >> Brain is a Win2k Pro machine. Note that I have a non-blank password, >> but >> I don't know if that is your issue or not. > > You're having no problem writing... In my case the //HOST is > win-xp pro and share /J-ahn-d has win-xp permissions settings of > [x] Share this folder on the network > [x] Allow network users to change files > > No password. Far as I know there is no other settings > available. Than what appear on the dialog box where I've checked the > above. > > I've just tried several incantations using mount -t like your example. > It will mount even with no -o (options) given. Or as you''ve done > with a username only. But still I cannot write to it. > > I've spoken with Steve French about this. He is one of the upstream > mainters of cifs, but still haven't found the reason or a solution. I don't think your issue is cifs at all, but WinXP. Here is what a quick Google search turns up: http://lowendpc.com/box/2002/0916.html Reading the links from that article, it looks like you are trying to use "Simple file sharing". From what I gather "Allow network users to change files" actually only allows everyone to "Read"... I'd say since you have WinXP Pro, get rid of the "Simple" file sharing crap and set permissions manually. Disclaimer: I've only used WinXP Pro in a domain environment which doesn't use the "Simple" file sharing. -- William Hooper From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri Mar 26 14:43:57 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:43:57 -0600 Subject: DVD images of new FC In-Reply-To: <1080302125.7355.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080302125.7355.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040326144357.GA1451814@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Maynard Kuona said: > I think is the interests of saving space, what is more needed is a > script which is part of the isos which can automate the making of the > dvd from the normal isos. This will require more space, but probably > more efficient for everyone too, since you will only have to redownload > 1 iso if something goes wrong, rather than a whole dvd iso. Here's my script to do this: http://www.iruntheinter.net/files/misc/mkdvd-1.0 It tries to catch the errors and clean up. I'm thinking about adding MD5SUMS checking to it. This one uses the "-f" option to mkisofs to follow symlinks so that it doesn't have to copy the whole tree to disk. This speeds up the process significantly and also doesn't require as much disk space. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From reader at newsguy.com Fri Mar 26 16:12:53 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:12:53 -0600 Subject: new kernels, cifs and new webmin In-Reply-To: <65392.65.41.50.216.1080312178.squirrel@65.41.50.216> (William Hooper's message of "Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:42:58 -0500 (EST)") References: <40634FC9.5040106@clara.co.uk> <65079.65.41.50.216.1080272194.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <65392.65.41.50.216.1080312178.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: "William Hooper" writes: [...] > I don't think your issue is cifs at all, but WinXP. Here is what a quick > Google search turns up: > > http://lowendpc.com/box/2002/0916.html > > Reading the links from that article, it looks like you are trying to use > "Simple file sharing". From what I gather "Allow network users to change > files" actually only allows everyone to "Read"... > > I'd say since you have WinXP Pro, get rid of the "Simple" file sharing > crap and set permissions manually. > > Disclaimer: I've only used WinXP Pro in a domain environment which doesn't > use the "Simple" file sharing. Thanks, that url is a bonanza... I haven't actually gotten to try scrapping the `simplified' stuff yet but it looks very promising. One thing continues to mystify.... reverting to smbfs by generating a custom kernel with smbfs enabled, allows read/write to those shares with no other changes. smbfs must be overriding some of `winxp pro' settings? Overriding stuff that cifs does not? From reader at newsguy.com Fri Mar 26 16:22:18 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:22:18 -0600 Subject: new kernels, cifs and new webmin In-Reply-To: <65392.65.41.50.216.1080312178.squirrel@65.41.50.216> (William Hooper's message of "Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:42:58 -0500 (EST)") References: <40634FC9.5040106@clara.co.uk> <65079.65.41.50.216.1080272194.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <65392.65.41.50.216.1080312178.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: "William Hooper" writes: > I'd say since you have WinXP Pro, get rid of the "Simple" file sharing > crap and set permissions manually. Bingo... yup. Setting it up manually cured the no write issue. From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Fri Mar 26 16:35:49 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:35:49 -0500 Subject: Updated XFree86 rpms Message-ID: I'm trying to update my copy of FC2t1 and I keep getting dependency errors over parts of XFree86. I can't use the original RPMS as they've been updated, but I cannot find the updated RPMS for the files I need for XFree86. I know of the plan to move to Xorg, but does anyone know where the XFree86-4.0.63 RPMS located? -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From czar at czarc.net Fri Mar 26 16:42:11 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:42:11 -0500 Subject: selinux In-Reply-To: <20040326065904.GF11021@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <200403251720.43406.czar@czarc.net> <20040326065904.GF11021@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <200403261142.11345.czar@czarc.net> On Friday 26 March 2004 01:59, Tom Mitchell wrote: > There are a couple of things that are handy to know in development > cycle mode. > > logger "Turning Enforcing OFF" > echo "0" > /selinux/enforce > and > logger "Turning Enforcing ON" > echo "1" > /selinux/enforce Thanks, this is good to know. I did a fresh "everything" install so I do not need to worry about all of the problems which have occurred in transition from Test1 (which is why I did a fresh everything install of a current snapshot). When I did the install, I specified permissive mode to make sure the install went OK. When I first brought the system up in enforcing mode, I had lots of problem. However, after doing "make reload" and "make relabel", everything seems to work. I am going to experiement with another fresh install to see if I can bring things up in enforcing mode from the start. -- Gene From michal at harddata.com Fri Mar 26 16:46:42 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:46:42 -0700 Subject: spurious interrupt? In-Reply-To: <200403260435.i2Q4ZlU02116@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com>; from don.raikes@oracle.com on Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:35:45PM -0700 References: <200403260435.i2Q4ZlU02116@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Message-ID: <20040326094642.A9361@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:35:45PM -0700, donald raikes wrote: > > While waiting for the dependencies to be resolved, I get the following message displayed: > > spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7 > > Any idea what may be causing this? See, for example, here: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3C174EDD.9090306%40hotmail.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dspurious%2B8259A%2Binterrupt%253A%2BIRQ7%26meta%3Dsite%253Dgroups and other messages in that thread. Usually this is a hardware problem, and if sporadic then nothing to worrry about, but see that URL. If you will search in "google groups" then you will find much more. :-) Mihal From geoff at cdepot.net Fri Mar 26 16:53:29 2004 From: geoff at cdepot.net (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:53:29 -0800 Subject: Desperately seeking Test 2 CDR/DVD In-Reply-To: <1080256867l.666l.1l@mtranch> (from geoff@cdepot.net on Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 15:21:07 -0800) References: <1080256867l.666l.1l@mtranch> Message-ID: <20040326165329.GA1720@mtranch.mtranch> On 03.25 15:21, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I have a dual Opteron system that has only SATA disks sitting idle, > on which I would very much like to install Test 2. Because of the > SATA disks, Core 1 won't install. > > I anyone knows of a source for Test 2 on CDR/DVD, (when relesed, of > course) I'd appreciate hearing of it. > > My internet connection if 26KB on a good day. That's why I don't > burn the ISOs. Fedora Core Test 2 will be available after release from cheapbytes.com. Search for "Fedora" From mikko at ipi.fi Fri Mar 26 17:56:48 2004 From: mikko at ipi.fi (Mikko Paananen) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:56:48 +0200 Subject: Bad or non implemented Greek (and other) fonts? In-Reply-To: <200403261514.33917.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200403251807.52587.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200403261514.33917.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1080323808.32137.72.camel@death.local> pe, 2004-03-26 kello 16:14, Roland Wolters kirjoitti: > Once upon a time Roland Wolters wrote: > > I try to get all the fonts on my linux which I need to read Greek or other > > non-latin sites without any problems. > > But there are several problems: it seems that fedora comes with a basic > > Greek font, but its far away from correct displaying Greek > > (http://el.wikipedia.org/). > > And Hindi is not supported in any way, its impossible to read hindi with > > Fedora Core 2 Test1 as long as you do not try to fix by hand. Most fonts don't have all characters needed to display greek correctly. European Union has defined subset of Unicode (MES-2) needed to display 102 languages spoken in europe correctly, it includes 1062 different glyphs. Most font don't have near to that amount. Microsoft's own subset WGL4 (Arial, Verdana, ..) has only 650 letters, leaving out accented greek etc. The problem with X fonts is that those are bitmap fonts, not scalable ttf/opetype, and are not used by gnome/kde by default. There are least two free fontsets with recent character repertoire, freefont (http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/freefont/) and TeX fonts converted to truetype. Savannah download site seem to still empty after crack, but I have a rpm here: http://ipi.fi/~mikko/repo/freefont-1.0-3.noarch.rpm. Also TeX cm fonts in ttf: http://ipi.fi/~mikko/repo/cm-unicode-ttf-0.1.2-1.noarch.rpm If you install those fonts, you should be able to view least greek correctly. Hindi etc., however is written with alphabet called devanagari so get fonts here: http://www.indlinux.org/downloads/ Also, you have to recompile Mozilla cvs version to display it correctly, read this message (and thread) for discussion: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-utf8 at nl.linux.org/msg04483.html It seems that software support for complex scripts in Mozilla is not there yet. > > Why don't they add the missing files? It seems that XFree86 and X.org are > > having the files they need, following Markus Kuhn at > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html > > > > Linux do not need all the UTF-8 support as long as its not able to display > > some of the "large" fonts/alphabets (hindi and greek) from start on - I > > know that I can fix it by hand, but thats not the question for the "normal" > > users. Freefonts & TeX fonts are not very nice on screen, if you need readable (western) unicode font, google for "Gentium", it's free download. Also, get "Cyberbit" for non-latin scripts. From fritz.elfert at millenux.com Fri Mar 26 17:44:14 2004 From: fritz.elfert at millenux.com (Fritz Elfert) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:44:14 +0100 Subject: xorg-x11 pcf fonts not loaded In-Reply-To: <1080297725.9706.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080288847172617266.0.ppp7@ppp7> <1080297725.9706.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200403261844.21965.fritz.elfert@millenux.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, .. apparently not completely. After updating to xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9, i installed x3270-x11 and it could not find it's fonts when starting. A manual run of mkfontdir in the font directory and restarting xfs solved that. Ciao -Fritz On Friday 26 March 2004 11:42, sangu wrote: > Please see : http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118587 > > This prolem probably was fixed in xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9. > > 2004-03-26 (?) 10:17 -0500?, P.I.Julius ???: > > Hi all, > > > > I have installed the new xorg-x11 x server and now my pcf (bitmap) > > font's are not working. If i run the gnome-font-properties and i select > > a bitmap font for e.g. Helvetica (~/.fonts/helvR12.pcf.gz) i get this > > error: > > ** (gnome-font-properties:5130): WARNING **: Cannot open font file for > > font Helvetica 10 > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Julius > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list - -- Fritz Elfert Millenux GmbH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZGv1boM4mAMyprARAtDFAJ456R2nAEpT3CBB/V6qHhgkZqot8gCfftuI tHB6gNdm+CVfv5CXh+oXQvo= =1HH9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From don.raikes at oracle.com Fri Mar 26 18:43:50 2004 From: don.raikes at oracle.com (donald raikes) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:43:50 -0700 Subject: fc2 yum dependency issue Message-ID: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Hi all, After installing fc2 test 1 yesterday, I wanted to yum it up to the current packages. I used the command: yum -y update After chugging for a while, and trying to resolve dependencies, I get the following message: package redhat-lib needs /usr/bin/kill, this is not available I noticed that kill is in /bin not /usr/bin, so I created a link to it in /usr/bin, but the same thing happened. Any ideas? From mfrisch at isurfer.ca Fri Mar 26 19:11:46 2004 From: mfrisch at isurfer.ca (Mike Frisch) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:11:46 -0500 Subject: fc2 yum dependency issue In-Reply-To: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> References: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Message-ID: <20040326191146.GA1253@isurfer.ca> On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:43:50AM -0700, donald raikes wrote: > After chugging for a while, and trying to resolve dependencies, I get > the following message: > > package redhat-lib needs /usr/bin/kill, this is not available > > I noticed that kill is in /bin not /usr/bin, so I created a link to it > in /usr/bin, but the same thing happened. > > Any ideas? I don't have any answers for you, but I am having similar problems. Occasionally, when attempting to install a package that has dependencies on other, uninstalled packages, yum claims that the other packages are not available (even though I could run yum separately and get them). For example "package A" is dependent on "library B". Neither are currently installed. When I "yum install" package A, it says that "library B" is not available even though it'll show up in the "yum find" results. It's not pulling in the dependencies automatically consistently. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 26 19:22:43 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:22:43 -0500 Subject: fc2 yum dependency issue In-Reply-To: <20040326191146.GA1253@isurfer.ca> References: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> <20040326191146.GA1253@isurfer.ca> Message-ID: <1080328962.26468.15.camel@binkley> > Occasionally, when attempting to install a package that has dependencies > on other, uninstalled packages, yum claims that the other packages are > not available (even though I could run yum separately and get them). > > For example "package A" is dependent on "library B". Neither are > currently installed. When I "yum install" package A, it says that > "library B" is not available even though it'll show up in the "yum find" > results. It's not pulling in the dependencies automatically > consistently. > I'm likely to believe you're getting problems from the mirrors being out of sync, however, if you have a reproduceable case send me the output of a yum -d 6 and I'll take a look. -sv From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Fri Mar 26 19:28:17 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:28:17 -0500 Subject: Moving to XOrg Message-ID: Okay, what's it gonna take for get my FC2Test1 box from XFRee86 to XOrg? Is there a doc on that? I keep trying to upgrade my GNOME rpms but since I'm missing some XF86 libs that are now MIA from the fedora mirrors, I'll need to move to XOrg. Can anyone point me in the right direction? -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri Mar 26 19:34:34 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:34:34 -0600 Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Mark Haney said: > Okay, what's it gonna take for get my FC2Test1 box from XFRee86 to XOrg? > Is there a doc on that? I keep trying to upgrade my GNOME rpms but since > I'm missing some XF86 libs that are now MIA from the fedora mirrors, I'll > need to move to XOrg. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I did (as root): rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install echo "/usr/X11R6/lib" >> /etc/ld.so.conf ldconfig chkconfig --add xfs service xfs start -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri Mar 26 19:37:33 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:37:33 -0600 Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <20040326193733.GF1451814@hiwaay.net> Oops, one correction: rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | grep XFree86 | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install echo "/usr/X11R6/lib" >> /etc/ld.so.conf ldconfig chkconfig --add xfs service xfs start -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From karwas at pk-telecom.com Fri Mar 26 19:40:10 2004 From: karwas at pk-telecom.com (Przemyslaw Karwasiecki) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:40:10 -0600 Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1080330010.6100.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Chris, Why you are feeding yum with ALL rpms, and not just xorg-x11 ? In other words -- why not: rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | grep XFree86 | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install echo "/usr/X11R6/lib" >> /etc/ld.so.conf ldconfig chkconfig --add xfs service xfs start Przemek On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 13:34, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Mark Haney said: > > Okay, what's it gonna take for get my FC2Test1 box from XFRee86 to XOrg? > > Is there a doc on that? I keep trying to upgrade my GNOME rpms but since > > I'm missing some XF86 libs that are now MIA from the fedora mirrors, I'll > > need to move to XOrg. Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > I did (as root): > > rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install > echo "/usr/X11R6/lib" >> /etc/ld.so.conf > ldconfig > chkconfig --add xfs > service xfs start > > -- > Chris Adams > Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services > I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. > From balay at fastmail.fm Fri Mar 26 19:39:02 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:39:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Mark Haney said: > > Okay, what's it gonna take for get my FC2Test1 box from XFRee86 to XOrg? > > Is there a doc on that? I keep trying to upgrade my GNOME rpms but since > > I'm missing some XF86 libs that are now MIA from the fedora mirrors, I'll > > need to move to XOrg. Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > I did (as root): > > rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install I would change this to 'yum upgrade' Satish > echo "/usr/X11R6/lib" >> /etc/ld.so.conf > ldconfig > chkconfig --add xfs > service xfs start > > From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri Mar 26 19:51:54 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:51:54 -0600 Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Satish Balay said: > > rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install > > I would change this to 'yum upgrade' Doesn't work IIRC, because the xorg-x11 packages obsolete the XFree86 packages. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri Mar 26 19:52:36 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:52:36 -0600 Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: <1080330010.6100.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <1080330010.6100.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040326195236.GH1451814@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Przemyslaw Karwasiecki said: > Why you are feeding yum with ALL rpms, and not just xorg-x11 ? > > In other words -- why not: > > rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | grep XFree86 | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install Yep, see my follow-up with that exact correction. At least I got the other typo fixed this time. :-) -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From balay at fastmail.fm Fri Mar 26 20:03:18 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:03:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Satish Balay said: > > > rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install > > > > I would change this to 'yum upgrade' > > Doesn't work IIRC, because the xorg-x11 packages obsolete the XFree86 > packages. Hmm worked for me. upgrade (instead of update) takes care of obsoletes. Satish From sehh at altered.com Fri Mar 26 20:16:52 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:16:52 +0000 Subject: Bad or non implemented Greek (and other) fonts? In-Reply-To: <200403261514.33917.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200403251807.52587.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200403261514.33917.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20040326201652.643e14ea@ekolaptis.> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:14:33 +0100 "Roland Wolters" wrote: > I cant understand why no one is interested in that - is my english too bad? DO > you understand what I mean? Greek is not supported by Redhat. Many of us Greeks have asked redhat to support Greek out-of-the-box as Mandrake does, but they refused. Redhat gave us some lame excuse about it. I can't remember exactly, its an old bug report in bugzilla. If you want full Greek support then use Mandrake :( From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri Mar 26 20:43:38 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:43:38 -0600 Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <20040326204338.GI1451814@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Satish Balay said: > Hmm worked for me. upgrade (instead of update) takes care of obsoletes. The "upgrade" option is also marked "*deprecated*" in the yum man page (so I don't use it). -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From balay at fastmail.fm Fri Mar 26 20:56:25 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:56:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: <20040326204338.GI1451814@hiwaay.net> References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326204338.GI1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Satish Balay said: > > Hmm worked for me. upgrade (instead of update) takes care of obsoletes. > > The "upgrade" option is also marked "*deprecated*" in the yum man page > (so I don't use it). However the functionality is very useful (esp with rawhide) - and is not depreciated. The option is depreicated in favor of a different way of specifying it - perhaps 'yum --obsoletes=1 update' For me, all the redhat-config -> system-config ; XFree86 -> xorg-x11 changes were handled properly by it. Satish From bcs at metacon.ca Fri Mar 26 20:58:12 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:58:12 -0400 Subject: xorg-x11 pcf fonts not loaded In-Reply-To: <1080297725.9706.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080288847172617266.0.ppp7@ppp7> <1080297725.9706.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080334691.2434.9.camel@ripley.metacon.ca> On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 06:42, sangu wrote: > Please see : http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118587 > > This prolem probably was fixed in xorg-x11-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9. Yes, the latest release has fixed my problem with missing bitmap fonts (yay, MiscFixed works again!!!) Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri Mar 26 21:02:25 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:02:25 -0600 Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326204338.GI1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <20040326210225.GJ1451814@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Satish Balay said: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > > The "upgrade" option is also marked "*deprecated*" in the yum man page > > (so I don't use it). > > However the functionality is very useful (esp with rawhide) - and is > not depreciated. The option is depreicated in favor of a different way > of specifying it - perhaps 'yum --obsoletes=1 update' That is not what the yum documentation says. It specifically says upgrade is deprecated; no alternative is given. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From balay at fastmail.fm Fri Mar 26 21:15:51 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:15:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: yum upgrade *deprecated* [was: Moving to XOrg] In-Reply-To: <20040326210225.GJ1451814@hiwaay.net> References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326204338.GI1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326210225.GJ1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Satish Balay said: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > > > The "upgrade" option is also marked "*deprecated*" in the yum man page > > > (so I don't use it). > > > > However the functionality is very useful (esp with rawhide) - and is > > not depreciated. The option is depreicated in favor of a different way > > of specifying it - perhaps 'yum --obsoletes=1 update' > > That is not what the yum documentation says. It specifically says > upgrade is deprecated; no alternative is given. Yeah - I don't like the documentation of this. There was some discussion on this (reasons for not liking upgrade/replacements) in yum mailing list. Satish From balay at fastmail.fm Fri Mar 26 21:23:16 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:23:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: yum upgrade *deprecated* [was: Moving to XOrg] In-Reply-To: References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326204338.GI1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326210225.GJ1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > > > Once upon a time, Satish Balay said: > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > > > > The "upgrade" option is also marked "*deprecated*" in the yum man page > > > > (so I don't use it). > > > > > > However the functionality is very useful (esp with rawhide) - and is > > > not depreciated. The option is depreicated in favor of a different way > > > of specifying it - perhaps 'yum --obsoletes=1 update' > > > > That is not what the yum documentation says. It specifically says > > upgrade is deprecated; no alternative is given. > > Yeah - I don't like the documentation of this. There was some > discussion on this (reasons for not liking upgrade/replacements) in > yum mailing list. Info on this topic is at: https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/pipermail/yum/2004-January/003518.html Satish From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 26 21:29:18 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:29:18 -0500 Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: <20040326210225.GJ1451814@hiwaay.net> References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326204338.GI1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326210225.GJ1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1080336558.26468.36.camel@binkley> On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 15:02 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Satish Balay said: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > > > The "upgrade" option is also marked "*deprecated*" in the yum man page > > > (so I don't use it). > > > > However the functionality is very useful (esp with rawhide) - and is > > not depreciated. The option is depreicated in favor of a different way > > of specifying it - perhaps 'yum --obsoletes=1 update' > > That is not what the yum documentation says. It specifically says > upgrade is deprecated; no alternative is given. > deprecated - meaning - it will not necessarily be there for the next major release - just like red hat specifies deprecated packaes in release-notes of each release. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 26 21:34:30 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:34:30 -0500 Subject: yum upgrade *deprecated* [was: Moving to XOrg] In-Reply-To: References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326204338.GI1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326210225.GJ1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1080336870.26468.42.camel@binkley> > > > > That is not what the yum documentation says. It specifically says > > upgrade is deprecated; no alternative is given. > > Yeah - I don't like the documentation of this. There was some > discussion on this (reasons for not liking upgrade/replacements) in > yum mailing list. > I'll fix that up before 2.0.7 comes out. Thanks. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Mar 26 21:34:06 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:34:06 -0500 Subject: Moving to XOrg In-Reply-To: References: <20040326193434.GD1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326195154.GG1451814@hiwaay.net> <20040326204338.GI1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1080336845.26468.40.camel@binkley> On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 14:56 -0600, Satish Balay wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > > > Once upon a time, Satish Balay said: > > > Hmm worked for me. upgrade (instead of update) takes care of obsoletes. > > > > The "upgrade" option is also marked "*deprecated*" in the yum man page > > (so I don't use it). > > However the functionality is very useful (esp with rawhide) - and is > not depreciated. The option is depreicated in favor of a different way > of specifying it - perhaps 'yum --obsoletes=1 update' Satish, you're correct this is what I'd like to do. Upgrade is, right now, just updates with obsoletes calculated first. I'd like to remove upgrade as a command and just let obsoletes be a switch to yum. then if someone ALWAYS wants obsoletes calculated they could just do: obsoletes=1 in their yum.conf and move along. However, at this time It's not done that way - but I wanted to mark upgrade as deprecated so people know it will eventually go away. But it won't go away in the 2.0.X branch. I'm not going to change features dramatically mid-season. :) > For me, all the redhat-config -> system-config ; XFree86 -> xorg-x11 changes > were handled properly by it. Glad to hear it. -sv From asenci at uol.com.br Fri Mar 26 22:39:46 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:39:46 -0300 Subject: fc2 yum dependency issue In-Reply-To: <1080328962.26468.15.camel@binkley> References: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> <20040326191146.GA1253@isurfer.ca> <1080328962.26468.15.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1080340786.8983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm having a lot of problems trying to update with up2date and yum, yum usually fails to get headers from some servers. Is apt-get better? Many differences? Em Sex, 2004-03-26 ?s 14:22 -0500, seth vidal escreveu: > > Occasionally, when attempting to install a package that has dependencies > > on other, uninstalled packages, yum claims that the other packages are > > not available (even though I could run yum separately and get them). > > > > For example "package A" is dependent on "library B". Neither are > > currently installed. When I "yum install" package A, it says that > > "library B" is not available even though it'll show up in the "yum find" > > results. It's not pulling in the dependencies automatically > > consistently. > > > > I'm likely to believe you're getting problems from the mirrors being out > of sync, however, if you have a reproduceable case send me the output of > a yum -d 6 and I'll take a look. > > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Fri Mar 26 22:57:36 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:57:36 -0700 Subject: fc2 yum dependency issue In-Reply-To: <1080340786.8983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> <20040326191146.GA1253@isurfer.ca> <1080328962.26468.15.camel@binkley> <1080340786.8983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040326225736.GB22344@ece.arizona.edu> On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 07:39:46PM -0300, Andr? S. wrote: > I'm having a lot of problems trying to update with up2date and yum, yum > usually fails to get headers from some servers. Is apt-get better? > Many differences? Well, if you can't get data from the servers, there's not much that ANY program can do. Yum and apt use different metadata schemes, so it's _possible_ that you'd have more luck with apt. However, it sounds like your fundamental problem is getting reliable server access. Try and find some free-er mirrors. Of course, the network problems could be on your end, too. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From parrishmyers at yahoo.com Fri Mar 26 23:45:18 2004 From: parrishmyers at yahoo.com (Parrish M Myers) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:45:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Fwd: Re: x.org and Radwon IGP 320M Message-ID: <20040326234518.54789.qmail@web13810.mail.yahoo.com> I'm sorry... I read over what I posted. I hope it didn't come across as hostile. I didn't mean it that way. I'm simply confused. --- Parrish M Myers wrote: > Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 18:15:22 -0800 (PST) > From: Parrish M Myers > Subject: Re: x.org and Radwon IGP 320M > To: > For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > > Excuse my ignorance... but is that the vesa driver or the ati driver? > > Which one is officially supported by redhat? The SUSE drivers I > mentioned were the ati ones. > > --- "Mike A. Harris" wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Parrish M Myers wrote: > > > > >I haven't had a chance to try the new x.org X server... But does > > anyone > > >know if it supports the ATI Radeon Mobility U1 (IGP 320M) video > chip > > >out of the box? Or can I still get the drivers from SUSE? > > > > The Radeon Mobility U1 should work in Red Hat Linux 9, Red Hat > > Enterprise Linux 3, Fedora Core 1 with XFree86 4.3.0 2D only. > > > > It also should work with xorg-x11 2D only. > > > > 3D support is not included in xorg-x11 nor in XFree86 4.4.0. > > > > > > -- > > Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris > > OS Systems Engineer - X.org X11 maintainer - Red Hat > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > ===== > "Parrish Myers" > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other > forms that have been tried from time to time. -- (Winston Churchill) > ===== "Parrish Myers" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. -- (Winston Churchill) From rngadam at yahoo.com Sat Mar 27 00:20:45 2004 From: rngadam at yahoo.com (Ricky Ng-Adam) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:20:45 -0500 Subject: Cross-posting of Bugzilla bugs to mailing list? Message-ID: Hello! Mandrake has this neat IMO setup where Bugzilla bug reports are cross-posted to the "Cooker" mailing list, which encourages everyone to use Bugzilla more while making it more convenient to search for bugs (if you use gmane.org and a NTTP client). Does Fedora have the same thing? (If so, why isn't it to linux.redhat.fedora.testers?). Thanks! Ricky From czar at czarc.net Sat Mar 27 00:43:32 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:43:32 -0500 Subject: Cross-posting of Bugzilla bugs to mailing list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403261943.32145.czar@czarc.net> On Friday 26 March 2004 19:20, Ricky Ng-Adam wrote: > Hello! > > Mandrake has this neat IMO setup where Bugzilla bug reports are > cross-posted to the "Cooker" mailing list, which encourages everyone to > use Bugzilla more while making it more convenient to search for bugs (if > you use gmane.org and a NTTP client). > > Does Fedora have the same thing? (If so, why isn't it to > linux.redhat.fedora.testers?). Sorry but I don't believe this is a good idea. Just the email messages for the reports I make and other reports I am interested in is a lot. If you want to see whats reported, just tailor a query to do it. -- Gene From randysch at comcast.net Sat Mar 27 02:05:37 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:05:37 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <404E8A18.8000307@comcast.net> References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> <404E8A18.8000307@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4064E171.4040604@comcast.net> Randy Schrickel wrote: > (really appreciate you (daniel) and whoever else actually takes the time > to look at this!) It's been a couple weeks, and I'm still playing with this, so I thought I'd post my latest news (solution?). Someone (thanks Ricky) emailed me a nice link for testing "internet speed" that should be pretty DNS intensive - http://www.numion.com/YourSpeed . Even though my last fix seemed to help, that website told me I was only getting about 30-50 kbps download speeds. The same machine, dual booted into Windows XP Pro came out about 350kbps! So I finally did something tonight I've been thinking of - unplugging my "wireless broadband router" (a D-Link DI-614+) and plugging the cable modem directly into the PC. It's been cabled to the D-Link, not wireless on this machine. Wow. My speed to that site now came up between 400 and 500 kbps! Cool. Except my wife wouldn't be happy with no wireless to the other PC, so this won't do. I decided to flash upgrade the router bios to see if that makes a difference. So I did that, and re-connected to the router. Now I'm getting at least 350kbps! Current bios version is "2.20, Tue 19 Aug 2003" and I've got kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253. I also wrote to D-Link's tech support, and they suggested that I change the 614's MTU to 1492. I haven't tried that, but I'm not sure it will help any more - from what I've read, that value should be used for DSL (PPoE). I haven't tried it yet with "ipv6 enabled" to see if that original setting makes any difference at all now. Interestingly, I found this link http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Linux_Networking/Q_20868797.html which talks about the same problem I've described only with Mandrake. Their solution - disable ipv6, just like I'd done before! Sorry for the long posting, but I like to be complete. ;) I'll probably post my results again after I re-enable ipv6. Thanks to all who have helped and offered suggestions. randy From don.raikes at oracle.com Sat Mar 27 02:05:46 2004 From: don.raikes at oracle.com (donald raikes) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:05:46 -0700 Subject: console beep missing Message-ID: <200403270205.i2R25lp08347@rgmgw6.us.oracle.com> While the volume was set to 0, setting it up didn't resolve the problem. As it turns out, I had to do the following as well. modprobe pcspkr This resolved the problem. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Alexandre Oliva Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:44 AM To: donald raikes Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: console beep missing On Mar 26, 2004, donald raikes wrote: > Just got fc2 installed, and noticed that the console beep sound is missing. > How do I re-enable it? Could it just be that the default volume is set to zero by alsa, the new sound system? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From randysch at comcast.net Sat Mar 27 02:10:16 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:10:16 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <4064E171.4040604@comcast.net> References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> <404E8A18.8000307@comcast.net> <4064E171.4040604@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4064E288.2040105@comcast.net> Randy Schrickel wrote: > http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Linux_Networking/Q_20868797.html > which talks about the same problem I've described only with Mandrake. > Their solution - disable ipv6, just like I'd done before! Minor correction, that link refers to the same issue with SUSE, not Mandrake. randy From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sat Mar 27 03:40:41 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:40:41 -0300 Subject: DVD images of new FC In-Reply-To: <20040326144357.GA1451814@hiwaay.net> References: <1080302125.7355.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040326144357.GA1451814@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <4064F7B9.4070408@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Chris Adams wrote: >Once upon a time, Maynard Kuona said: > > >>I think is the interests of saving space, what is more needed is a >>script which is part of the isos which can automate the making of the >>dvd from the normal isos. This will require more space, but probably >>more efficient for everyone too, since you will only have to redownload >>1 iso if something goes wrong, rather than a whole dvd iso. >> >> > >Here's my script to do this: > >http://www.iruntheinter.net/files/misc/mkdvd-1.0 > >It tries to catch the errors and clean up. I'm thinking about adding >MD5SUMS checking to it. > >This one uses the "-f" option to mkisofs to follow symlinks so that it >doesn't have to copy the whole tree to disk. This speeds up the process >significantly and also doesn't require as much disk space. > > This topic may be the best time to introduce a new idea.. I recently tested the "jigdo" program to download the isos for a debian install. This could help save space on both CD isos and DVD isos.. Here's how jigdo works: there's a jigdo program (available for windows and linux) . You download a .jigdo file for each file you want to download (suppose you want to download yarrow-i386-disc1.iso , then you download yarrow-i386-disc1.iso.jigdo) . The .jigdo file is very small (about 30 KB) . Then , the jigdo program downloads a .template file (for the debian cds , they were about 27mb each). It then asks which mirror it should use to download the remaining files. Then , it downloads every file that belongs in the CD (in our case , the base RPMS) and builds a perfect iso file . If we check the ftp site , we'll see that the fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/ directory (for example) , contains all the files that exist on the 3 ISOS. This means that if we have on the mirror all the 3 isos and the install tree , we're having two copies of each file (one being in fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/ and the other being inside one of the isos). With jigdo we could stop this waste of space , by having only one copy of each file in the $releasever/$basearch/os directory... The total size of the .jigdo and the .template files for the 3 binary cds and for the SRPM cds would be around 100Mb , instead of the 3.6 Gb used by the 6 CD set... With this , we could also provide the .jigdo and .template files for the DVD images as well , without needing huge amounts of disk space on the mirror.. And this can be applied to the binary isos and for the srpm isos , as all the needed files are on the mirrors... The only situation where this isnt possible is with the isos for the test releases, because the updates and the base files are located on the development directory and the original files are removed when they are updated... What do you guys think? I was thinking about this and was almost posting this suggestion to fedora-devel-list... -- Pedro Macedo From randysch at comcast.net Sat Mar 27 04:03:14 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:03:14 -0500 Subject: disable IPV6? In-Reply-To: <4064E288.2040105@comcast.net> References: <000c01c4030e$49050df0$0200a8c0@WARHOLE> <20040306041850.A11013@homebase.cluenet.de> <404E8A18.8000307@comcast.net> <4064E171.4040604@comcast.net> <4064E288.2040105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4064FD02.9070008@comcast.net> Randy Schrickel wrote: >> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Linux_Networking/Q_20868797.html >> which talks about the same problem I've described only with Mandrake. >> Their solution - disable ipv6, just like I'd done before! Rebooted with ipv6 enabled, looks like the speed is still right up there. Not as good as without the D-Link, but it's usable now. randy From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 27 04:07:36 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:07:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: new kernels, cifs and new webmin In-Reply-To: References: <40634FC9.5040106@clara.co.uk> <65079.65.41.50.216.1080272194.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <65392.65.41.50.216.1080312178.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Message-ID: <65345.65.41.50.216.1080360456.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Harry Putnam said: > > Thanks, that url is a bonanza... I haven't actually gotten to try > scrapping the `simplified' stuff yet but it looks very promising. > > One thing continues to mystify.... reverting to smbfs by generating a > custom kernel with smbfs enabled, allows read/write to those shares > with no other changes. > > smbfs must be overriding some of `winxp pro' settings? Overriding > stuff that cifs does not? Well, it's another WAG, but it would not be inconceivable for WinXP to handle SMB (Win95, 98, ME, NT) traffic different than CIFS (Win2k, WinXP, Win2003). Possibly to make home networking "easier", while at the same time supporting a business setting. -- William Hooper From cra at WPI.EDU Sat Mar 27 04:08:18 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:08:18 -0500 Subject: DVD images of new FC In-Reply-To: <4064F7B9.4070408@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <1080302125.7355.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040326144357.GA1451814@hiwaay.net> <4064F7B9.4070408@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <20040327040818.GA1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 12:40:41AM -0300, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > This topic may be the best time to introduce a new idea.. I recently > tested the "jigdo" program to download the isos for a debian install. > This could help save space on both CD isos and DVD isos.. > Here's how jigdo works: There was much interest from Red Hat or the mirrors when I brought this up with them, but I have made a package of jigdo: http://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1252 From cra at WPI.EDU Sat Mar 27 04:12:06 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:12:06 -0500 Subject: DVD images of new FC In-Reply-To: <20040327040818.GA1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <1080302125.7355.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040326144357.GA1451814@hiwaay.net> <4064F7B9.4070408@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <20040327040818.GA1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <20040327041206.GB1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:08:18PM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 12:40:41AM -0300, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > > This topic may be the best time to introduce a new idea.. I recently > > tested the "jigdo" program to download the isos for a debian install. > > This could help save space on both CD isos and DVD isos.. > > Here's how jigdo works: > > There was much interest from Red Hat or the mirrors when I brought > this up with them, but I have made a package of jigdo: > > http://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1252 Doh. There was NOT much interest... From bstretch at mindspring.com Sat Mar 27 04:17:46 2004 From: bstretch at mindspring.com (Brian Stretch) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:17:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: HP zv5000z AMD64 Development Install fails Message-ID: <29406965.1080361066387.JavaMail.root@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> I was able to get FC1 AMD64 to install on this HP zv5000z Athlon 64 nForce3 chipset notebook, but it locked up on reboot with the capslock light blinking, possibly didn't read the GeForce 440 Go vidcard right? The lockup was right about the time it ought to switch to X. I did a graphical install, no need for textmode, though the screen did go out-of-sync for a few seconds at the tail end of the shutdown-to-reboot. The AMD64 devel tree from today and yesterday didn't get very far. I tried a NFS install from a local mirror of the duke mirror. Fedora says "no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems" after I select manual partitioning with Disk Druid. Then it reboots. I tried acpi=off selinux=0 just for laughs, no diff. Anyone have any ideas before I bugzilla this? It can't detect the "mouse" either, which is an ALPS keypad, and I didn't see an option to manually select it like I could with FC1. BTW: I discovered a SERIOUS flaw in the zv5000z. If you try to use both SODIMM slots you'll get memory corruption errors. See here: http://amd64notebooks.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=86 From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat Mar 27 04:20:27 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:20:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: fc2 yum dependency issue In-Reply-To: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> References: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> Message-ID: <64551.65.41.50.216.1080361227.squirrel@65.41.50.216> donald raikes said: > Hi all, > After installing fc2 test 1 yesterday, I wanted to yum it up to the > current packages. > > I used the command: > yum -y update > > After chugging for a while, and trying to resolve dependencies, I get the > following message: > > package redhat-lib needs /usr/bin/kill, this is not available A simple archive search for redhat, lsb, kill gives you the answer: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/4462/ -- William Hooper From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sat Mar 27 04:36:04 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:36:04 -0500 Subject: installing FC2T1 from an up-to-date mirror In-Reply-To: <1080235424.7773.61.camel@zephyr> References: <1080235424.7773.61.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1080362163.2650.9.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 13:23 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to install FC2T1 from our local (up to date) mirror. However, > when I use the boot.iso disk, the install fails after downloading the > stage2 installer with the following message: > > "The Fedora Core installation tree > in that directory does not seem to > match your boot media." > > ...so I guess the question is: how to I correct the boot media, or get > it to accept the newer packages? Or is it stage2.img that's out of > whack? A bit of a late reply, but you don't seem to have gotten another. If the mirror is truly up to date, AND the sources are not broken, it will (should) work at some point. My experience over the last week or so has been that if you keep syncing the local repository with a good mirror, eventually it will work when everything finally matches up. An attempted update clobbered my home test system and it took 5 or 6 iterations of updating and trying to boot up the installer before the "does not match" message went away. An attempted new install on a test machine at work went about the same way. If there's an easy fix other than "Keep trying" I haven't seen it. Phil From rngadam at yahoo.com Sat Mar 27 05:39:07 2004 From: rngadam at yahoo.com (Ricky Ng-Adam) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:39:07 -0500 Subject: Cross-posting of Bugzilla bugs to mailing list? In-Reply-To: <200403261943.32145.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403261943.32145.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: Hello! Gene C. wrote: > Sorry but I don't believe this is a good idea. Just the email messages for > the reports I make and other reports I am interested in is a lot. Not sure I understand your point... Are you saying there would be too many people contributing to the Bugzilla bug reports? Or that it would add too much traffic to this mailing list? If you're a subscriber to this list, it is already talking more then your bug reports. Anyway, it could be a separate mailing list too. > If you want to see whats reported, just tailor a query to do it. Not as convenient and that solution doesn't promote using Bugzilla, which is the point. I see many threads here that should have gone in Bugzilla first. It works well for Mandrake, I don't see why it wouldn't work for Fedora? Do you read this mailing list thru NNTP? bye, Ricky From mail at lotus-notes.net Sat Mar 27 06:06:05 2004 From: mail at lotus-notes.net (mail at lotus-notes.net) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:06:05 -0500 Subject: Invalid GPG key from Fedora Core 2 update AND YUM failing as well References: <00f201c41281$077a4030$04a8a8c0@p428> Message-ID: <000701c413c1$97c91490$6500a8c0@p428> I ran yum update to try to get around manually clicking it was okay to download EACH of the 600 updates for Linux. It seemed to run just fine, ran for about 1 hour and updated NOTHING. Upon reboot RHN still said everything need to be updated? What is wrong here? How could it run and download , I watched it work, it showed the little dashes and package name and eta for each?? Please help someone! I have 1 week in on trying to get a succcesful updated install now. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:51 AM Subject: [SPAM] Invalid GPG key from up2date for Fedora CORE 2 HELP! HELP! HELP! > I have just spent the last 4 days downloading by hand about 200 of the 600 > more updates for Rawhide , Fedora Core 2, half wont even download and I am > wasting many hours each day on this with no end in site. > > This seems like a pretty obvious mistake, I ran the update with the command > line to update my cerficates directly from the Red Hat web site. It ran find > and said both my cerficates were up to date. > > > HELP! HELP! Pleasseeee. You can email me directly at mail at Lotus-Notes.Net > if you know the answer. > > many thanks > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 27 06:11:10 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:11:10 -0500 Subject: Invalid GPG key from Fedora Core 2 update AND YUM failing as well In-Reply-To: <000701c413c1$97c91490$6500a8c0@p428> References: <00f201c41281$077a4030$04a8a8c0@p428> <000701c413c1$97c91490$6500a8c0@p428> Message-ID: <1080367870.27841.17.camel@binkley> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 01:06 -0500, mail at lotus-notes.net wrote: > I ran yum update to try to get around manually clicking it was okay to > download EACH of the 600 updates for Linux. > > It seemed to run just fine, ran for about 1 hour and updated NOTHING. Upon > reboot RHN still said everything need to be updated? > > What is wrong here? How could it run and download , I watched it work, it > showed the little dashes and package name and eta for each?? > > Please help someone! I have 1 week in on trying to get a succcesful updated > install now. > what does /var/log/yum.log say it did? -sv From manu at kromtek.com Sat Mar 27 06:38:37 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:38:37 +0400 Subject: A question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403271038.37087.manu@kromtek.com> Hi, Could someone tell me why there is a change from XFree86 to XOrg ? Regards, Manu From davesbrown2 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 27 07:35:48 2004 From: davesbrown2 at yahoo.com (Dave Brown) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:35:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: migrating to xorg Message-ID: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> Reading the list and Chris Adams suggestions for install xorg I issued the command: rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | grep XFree86 | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install but then was presented with: [root at hercules log]# rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | grep XFree86 | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install Unable to find pid Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies ..Dependencies resolved I will do the following: [install: xorg-x11-xauth 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-Xvfb 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-syriac-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-100dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-doc 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-xfs 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-libs 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-Xnest 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-twm 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-libs-data 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-tools 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-75dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-base-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-font-utils 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-devel 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-sdk 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-truetype-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-xdm 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] [install: xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9.i386] I will install/upgrade these to satisfy the dependencies: [deps: jisksp14 0.1-13.noarch] [deps: gnome-print-devel 1:0.37-9.i386] [deps: libgnomeprint22 2.5.4-2.i386] [deps: libgnomeprint 1.116.0-10.i386] [deps: gnome-print 1:0.37-9.i386] [deps: fonts-ja 8.0-12.noarch] [deps: libgnomeprint22-devel 2.5.4-2.i386] [deps: gtkglarea 1.2.2-19.i386] [deps: lesstif 0.93.36-5.2.i386] [deps: chkfontpath 1.10.0-1.i386] [deps: openoffice.org 1.1.0-32.i386] [deps: VFlib2 2.25.6-21.i386] [deps: openoffice.org-libs 1.1.0-32.i386] [deps: jisksp16-1990 0.1-14.noarch] [deps: openoffice.org-i18n 1.1.0-32.i386] [deps: libgnomeprint15 1:0.37-9.i386] Is this ok [y/N]: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 332, in main if clientStuff.userconfirm(): File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 695, in userconfirm choice = raw_input('Is this ok [y/N]: ') EOFError: EOF when reading a line what did I do wrong? Dave __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From wmp1784 at exchange.uta.edu Sat Mar 27 07:45:39 2004 From: wmp1784 at exchange.uta.edu (William Penton) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:45:39 -0600 Subject: IrDA Question Message-ID: <200403270145.39712.wmp1784@exchange.uta.edu> Has anyone been able to to get infrared working? The problem is when ever I run: [root at localhost nexxuz]# irrecord -d /dev/ttyS0 testfile From wmp1784 at exchange.uta.edu Sat Mar 27 07:48:15 2004 From: wmp1784 at exchange.uta.edu (William Penton) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:48:15 -0600 Subject: IrDA Question Message-ID: <200403270148.15973.wmp1784@exchange.uta.edu> Sorry about that. =] Has anyone been able to to get infrared working? The problem is when ever I run: [root at localhost nexxuz]# irrecord -d /dev/ttyS0 testfile ... Hold down an arbitrary button. irrecord: gap not found, can't continue [root at localhost nexxuz]# I have tryed ttyS0, ttyS1, ttyS2, ttyS3, ? but to no avail. How am I suppost to know which one is the one I need to be working with? Info about my computer: Kernel 2.6.1-1.65 lirc-0.6.6-2.fr irrecord-0.5 ? Thanks in advance. ? ? -William Penton -- ,.~'`'~.,.~'`'~.,.~'`'~.,.~'`'~., "Captain, life is not a dream." ? ? ?-Spock From mitr at volny.cz Sat Mar 27 07:54:33 2004 From: mitr at volny.cz (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:54:33 +0100 Subject: Bad or non implemented Greek (and other) fonts? In-Reply-To: <20040326201652.643e14ea@ekolaptis.> References: <200403251807.52587.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200403261514.33917.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <20040326201652.643e14ea@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: <20040327075432.GB23172@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 08:16:52PM +0000, Dimitrios wrote: > Greek is not supported by Redhat. Many of us Greeks have asked redhat to > support Greek out-of-the-box as Mandrake does, but they refused. > > Redhat gave us some lame excuse about it. I can't remember exactly, its > an old bug report in bugzilla. Do you consider "there aren't enough people translating FC to Greek, so Greek translation does not meet the inclusion criteria (has 32.5%, should have 90%)" a lame excuse? Mirek From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sat Mar 27 07:55:09 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:55:09 -0800 Subject: A question In-Reply-To: <200403271038.37087.manu@kromtek.com> References: <200403271038.37087.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <1080374109.31634.3.camel@CirithUngol> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 10:38 +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > Hi, > Could someone tell me why there is a change from XFree86 to XOrg ? > > Regards, > Manu Change in the license for XFree86 4.4 was unsatisfactory. There has been alot of chatter on the subject lately, so searching the mailing list archive will provide several responses that detail more. Mike Harris is the authoritative source since he is the Red Hat X maintainer, so read a few of his remarks. See the unsubscribe link at the bottom of this email to find the archive search. -- "The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) Andrew Farris, CPE major California Polytechnic University, SLO fedora at andrewfarris.com From ckloiber at redhat.com Fri Mar 26 20:44:57 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 04:44:57 +0800 Subject: DVD images of new FC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080333897.25478.1.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 17:15, Jarkko.Vatjus-Anttila at elektrobit.com wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know will there be DVD iso images for upcoming FC that should be > released shortly (hopefully). > > - jarkko Either there will be, or you can make one yourself from the CD isos and my script: ftp://people.redhat.com/mkdvdiso.sh It's ugly, but gets the job done. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 27 10:17:24 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:17:24 +0100 Subject: DVD images of new FC In-Reply-To: <1080333897.25478.1.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <1080333897.25478.1.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <406554B4.8040507@gmx.de> Chris Kloiber wrote: >Either there will be, or you can make one yourself from the CD isos and >my script: > >ftp://people.redhat.com/mkdvdiso.sh > >It's ugly, but gets the job done. > *who* is mkdvdiso.sh at redhat :-) ftp://people.redhat.com/ckloiber/mkdvdiso.sh -- shrek-m From maxer1 at xmission.com Sat Mar 27 10:34:10 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:34:10 -0700 Subject: no mirrors working? Message-ID: <406558A2.9060203@xmission.com> What is with ftp from fedora.redhat.com and mirror.hiwaay.net since yesterday I get only From gftp Trying mirror.hiwaay.net:21 Connected to mirror.hiwaay.net:21 Disconnecting from site mirror.hiwaay.net No directory listing or anything. Same for fedora.redhat.com It would be nice to alert people of that problem. Or maybe a vague attempt to allow us to use yum? heh Thanks, RaXeT From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 27 11:47:00 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:47:00 +0100 Subject: no mirrors working? In-Reply-To: <406558A2.9060203@xmission.com> References: <406558A2.9060203@xmission.com> Message-ID: <406569B4.8020304@gmx.de> RaXeT wrote: > What is with ftp from fedora.redhat.com and mirror.hiwaay.net since > yesterday I get only > > From gftp > > Trying mirror.hiwaay.net:21 > Connected to mirror.hiwaay.net:21 > Disconnecting from site mirror.hiwaay.net > > No directory listing or anything. Same for fedora.redhat.com > > It would be nice to alert people of that problem. > > Or maybe a vague attempt to allow us to use yum? heh i assume that they are syncing eg. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ have you tried an other mirror ? http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html fedora, hiwaay, ........................................ ........................................................ eg. ftp://ftp.net.usf.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ -- shrek-m From pertusus at free.fr Sat Mar 27 11:08:48 2004 From: pertusus at free.fr (Patrice Dumas) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:08:48 +0100 Subject: migrating to xorg In-Reply-To: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040327110848.GA4490@free.fr> The following worked for me: rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | grep XFree86 | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum -y install From lewt at warcry.com Sat Mar 27 12:22:03 2004 From: lewt at warcry.com (Lewt @ Linux Warcry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 06:22:03 -0600 Subject: HP zv5000z AMD64 Development Install fails In-Reply-To: <29406965.1080361066387.JavaMail.root@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> References: <29406965.1080361066387.JavaMail.root@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <406571EB.1090904@warcry.com> Brian Stretch wrote: >I was able to get FC1 AMD64 to install on this HP zv5000z Athlon 64 >nForce3 chipset notebook, but it locked up on reboot with the capslock >light blinking, possibly didn't read the GeForce 440 Go vidcard right? >The lockup was right about the time it ought to switch to X. I did a >graphical install, no need for textmode, though the screen did go >out-of-sync for a few seconds at the tail end of the shutdown-to-reboot. > >The AMD64 devel tree from today and yesterday didn't get very >far. I tried a NFS install from a local mirror of the duke mirror. Fedora >says "no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems" >after I select manual partitioning with Disk Druid. Then it reboots. >I tried acpi=off selinux=0 just for laughs, no diff. Anyone have any >ideas before I bugzilla this? > >It can't detect the "mouse" either, which is an ALPS keypad, and I >didn't see an option to manually select it like I could with FC1. > >BTW: I discovered a SERIOUS flaw in the zv5000z. If you try to use >both SODIMM slots you'll get memory corruption errors. See here: > >http://amd64notebooks.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=86 > > > > try running acpi=off in your grub.. From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Mar 27 12:29:21 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:29:21 +0100 Subject: migrating to xorg In-Reply-To: <20040327110848.GA4490@free.fr> References: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> <20040327110848.GA4490@free.fr> Message-ID: <406573A1.8070609@gmx.de> Patrice Dumas wrote: >The following worked for me: > >rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | grep XFree86 | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum >-y install > afaik # yum install xorg-x11* should be ok. -- shrek-m From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Mar 27 12:31:23 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:31:23 +0000 Subject: yum oddity Message-ID: <1080390683.8314.4.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Just done a yum update and had this come back Server: Fedora Core 1.91 - i386 - Unreleased Updates Testing Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Package XFree86 needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-62, this is not available I'm not using XF86, but am using xorg x11. Any ideas what's going on? TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sat Mar 27 12:36:27 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 07:36:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Setting sound level on startup In-Reply-To: References: <20040322143642.D930031533@neuromancer.voxel.net> <1079990952.2421.11.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: > I was wondering if you posters have something in /etc/modprobe.conf > similar to what I have: > alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 > install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && > /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > > I'm not sure what this is supposed to do, but it appears it might > reset aumix to 0 on reboot. That section will install the driver for your sound card when sound services are requested. When it loads the driver it will load your mixer settings from /etc/.aumixrc. If your driver defaults to muted, or the /etc/.aumixrc file starts out with zeros for sound levels you won't get any sound. Once your system is up and running, use the tools to set volume levels and have them saved. There is also a similar line which gets run when the sound module is removed which saves the current volume levels back into /etc/.aumixrc. From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sat Mar 27 13:12:57 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:12:57 -0500 Subject: yum oddity In-Reply-To: <1080390683.8314.4.camel@T7.linux> References: <1080390683.8314.4.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1080393176.19082.33.camel@duergar> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 07:31, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Just done a yum update and had this come back > > Server: Fedora Core 1.91 - i386 - Unreleased Updates Testing > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .Package XFree86 needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-62, this is not available > maybe the XFree86 rpm(s) were not removed from the database either because the uninstall failed, or your rpmdb is a little screwed up. First rpm -qa | grep -i XFree86 This should show you if any XFree86 packages failed to uninstall or be removed from the db. If their are still any XFree86 rpms backup your rpmdb and do a 'rpm -e XFree86-whatever' then 'rpm db --rebuilddb' to be sure your DB is ok then retry yum. If there aren't any XFree86 packages then I dunno man : -sb > I'm not using XF86, but am using xorg x11. > > Any ideas what's going on? > > TTFN > > Paul From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Sat Mar 27 13:21:54 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:21:54 +0100 Subject: no mirrors working? In-Reply-To: <406558A2.9060203@xmission.com> References: <406558A2.9060203@xmission.com> Message-ID: <20040327142154.0e125580.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:34:10 -0700, RaXeT wrote: > What is with ftp from fedora.redhat.com and mirror.hiwaay.net since > yesterday I get only > > From gftp > > Trying mirror.hiwaay.net:21 > Connected to mirror.hiwaay.net:21 > Disconnecting from site mirror.hiwaay.net > > No directory listing or anything. Same for fedora.redhat.com > > It would be nice to alert people of that problem. Feel free to do so with the admin at hiwaay.net. The subject is misleading. $ ftp download.fedora.redhat.com Trying 209.132.176.20... Connected to download.fedora.redhat.com (209.132.176.20). 220 Fedora FTP server ready. All transfers are logged. Name (download.fedora.redhat.com:ms): anonymous 331 Please specify the password. Password: 230 Login successful. Have fun. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> quit 221 Goodbye. Currently, mirror.hiwaay.net is reachable, but doesn't react to ftp: $ ftp mirror.hiwaay.net Connected to mirror.hiwaay.net (216.180.54.21). ftp.hiwaay.net and ftp://hiwaay.net seem to be working, but don't carry the content you want. ;) > Or maybe a vague attempt to allow us to use yum? heh What would that change? Yum would access the same site via ftp/http, too. Also nice is "lftp" which gives ftp-like access to http, when the site serves http, too. -- From maxer1 at xmission.com Sat Mar 27 13:45:54 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 06:45:54 -0700 Subject: no mirrors working? In-Reply-To: <20040327142154.0e125580.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <406558A2.9060203@xmission.com> <20040327142154.0e125580.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <40658592.2070008@xmission.com> Michael Schwendt wrote: >On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:34:10 -0700, RaXeT wrote: > > > >>What is with ftp from fedora.redhat.com and mirror.hiwaay.net since >>yesterday I get only >> >> From gftp >> >>Trying mirror.hiwaay.net:21 >>Connected to mirror.hiwaay.net:21 >>Disconnecting from site mirror.hiwaay.net >> >>No directory listing or anything. Same for fedora.redhat.com >> >>It would be nice to alert people of that problem. >> >> > >Feel free to do so with the admin at hiwaay.net. > >The subject is misleading. > >$ ftp download.fedora.redhat.com >Trying 209.132.176.20... >Connected to download.fedora.redhat.com (209.132.176.20). >220 Fedora FTP server ready. All transfers are logged. >Name (download.fedora.redhat.com:ms): anonymous >331 Please specify the password. >Password: >230 Login successful. Have fun. >Remote system type is UNIX. >Using binary mode to transfer files. >ftp> quit >221 Goodbye. > >Currently, mirror.hiwaay.net is reachable, but doesn't react to >ftp: > >$ ftp mirror.hiwaay.net >Connected to mirror.hiwaay.net (216.180.54.21). > >ftp.hiwaay.net and ftp://hiwaay.net seem to be working, but don't >carry the content you want. ;) > > > >>Or maybe a vague attempt to allow us to use yum? heh >> >> > >What would that change? Yum would access the same site via ftp/http, too. > >Also nice is "lftp" which gives ftp-like access to http, when the site >serves http, too. > > Thanks but when I paste in yum.conf: [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/development I get the following error on yum update: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 linux: No such file or directory Now I'm not sure but I would think that this should work. What is my problem with yum? I've updated all devel packages without yum through gftp to the latest as of 3-25-04. RaXeT From bartk at clara.co.uk Sat Mar 27 13:52:58 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:52:58 +0000 Subject: new kernels, cifs and new webmin In-Reply-To: References: <40634FC9.5040106@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <4065873A.1090101@clara.co.uk> Harry Putnam wrote: >Bart Kalita writes: > > > >>but, there is still a problem with mounting windows shares. >> >>Error I'm geting here is: invalid or missing username >> >>strange since everything works fine with the same credentials once I rebuild Kernel with smbmnt support. >> >>anybody knows where the problem might be? >> >> > >So are you able to supply a username and then it mounts? > >If so, is it writable? I ask because I've been consistently able to >mount with cifs but cannot write to the mounted fs. And like you, >enabling smbfs in kernel and it works like always... that is, read >write is seamless. > >Can you post your mount command? > >Mine from fstab: >(wrapped for mail) >//exp-xp/J-ahn-d /mnt/J-ahn-d cifs > noauto,username=Harry,password="" > > > > I've lost ability to mount cifs shares after updating to 2.6.4... 286 Kernel. Error I was getting while trying to mount with following command was mount -t cifs -o username=john //hades/music /home/bart/music/ permission denied ( error 13 ) I've tried newest webmin and that did not help but at least I got closer to the centre of the problem, while tring to mount cifs the error was: invalid or missing username. Since there was no problem in mounting cifs before Kernel ... 286 and there is no problem in mounting my MS shares with smbmnt using the same credentials. I assume that there is a change in the way that Test 1 is passing cifs login details to windows machines. as to the writeability, I never got the ability to write to shares made via cifs , shares made via smbmnt are writeable. -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Sat Mar 27 14:13:29 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 16:13:29 +0200 Subject: Setting sound level on startup In-Reply-To: References: <20040322143642.D930031533@neuromancer.voxel.net> <1079990952.2421.11.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <1080396809.3324.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 14:36, Thomas Molina wrote: > > I was wondering if you posters have something in /etc/modprobe.conf > > similar to what I have: > > alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 > > install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && > > /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > > > > I'm not sure what this is supposed to do, but it appears it might > > reset aumix to 0 on reboot. > > That section will install the driver for your sound card when sound > services are requested. When it loads the driver it will load your mixer > settings from /etc/.aumixrc. If your driver defaults to muted, or the > /etc/.aumixrc file starts out with zeros for sound levels you won't get > any sound. Once your system is up and running, use the tools to set > volume levels and have them saved. > > There is also a similar line which gets run when the sound module is > removed which saves the current volume levels back into /etc/.aumixrc. > More specifically, to load your sound settings on login, you can add to your session the line alsactl restore -f /path/to/asound.state I created an asound.state in my home directory so that I could save as user to it. Now, how do you automatically save this on logout. I had this before, but I did it once, then it worked so well, I don't remember how I did it. anyone enlighten me. From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Sat Mar 27 14:19:53 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:19:53 +0100 Subject: no mirrors working? In-Reply-To: <40658592.2070008@xmission.com> References: <406558A2.9060203@xmission.com> <20040327142154.0e125580.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> <40658592.2070008@xmission.com> Message-ID: <20040327151953.779d20cb.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 06:45:54 -0700, RaXeT wrote: > Thanks but when I paste in yum.conf: > [development] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree > baseurl=ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/development > I get the following error on yum update: > [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 linux: No such file or directory > > Now I'm not sure but I would think that this should work. What makes you think that path should work? It does not exist. Hence the error. Start at /pub/fedora and traverse down to find the correct path. Really easy. It is not specific to Yum. -- From bcs at metacon.ca Sat Mar 27 14:26:36 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:26:36 -0400 Subject: installing FC2T1 from an up-to-date mirror In-Reply-To: <1080362163.2650.9.camel@tabb1.tabb> References: <1080235424.7773.61.camel@zephyr> <1080362163.2650.9.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <1080397596.24011.3.camel@ripley.metacon.ca> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 00:36, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 13:23 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'd like to install FC2T1 from our local (up to date) mirror. > > If there's an easy fix other > than "Keep trying" I haven't seen it. Thanks for the response... I haven't got it to work yet but I haven't tried in a couple of days. Cheers, Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From sehh at altered.com Sat Mar 27 14:27:54 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:27:54 +0000 Subject: Bad or non implemented Greek (and other) fonts? In-Reply-To: <20040327075432.GB23172@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> References: <200403251807.52587.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200403261514.33917.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <20040326201652.643e14ea@ekolaptis.> <20040327075432.GB23172@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <20040327142754.38405efb@ekolaptis.> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:54:33 +0100 "Miloslav Trmac" wrote: > Do you consider "there aren't enough people translating FC to Greek, so Greek > translation does not meet the inclusion criteria (has 32.5%, should have 90%)" > a lame excuse? that wasn't the excuse we had been told. i remember it was something to do with fonts. Greek fonts were missing from redhat 8 and 9, the person who closed the bug report from redhat said we should go figure out how to install the fonts outselfs. this isn't about translation, all we want is to be able to write in Greek throughout the environment (gnome/kde apps etc). From bcs at metacon.ca Sat Mar 27 14:39:23 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:39:23 -0400 Subject: Bad or non implemented Greek (and other) fonts? In-Reply-To: <20040327142754.38405efb@ekolaptis.> References: <200403251807.52587.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200403261514.33917.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <20040326201652.643e14ea@ekolaptis.> <20040327075432.GB23172@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> <20040327142754.38405efb@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: <1080398363.24011.5.camel@ripley.metacon.ca> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 10:27, Dimitrios wrote: > On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:54:33 +0100 "Miloslav Trmac" wrote: > > > Do you consider "there aren't enough people translating FC to Greek, so Greek > > translation does not meet the inclusion criteria (has 32.5%, should have 90%)" > > a lame excuse? > > that wasn't the excuse we had been told. i remember it was something to do with fonts. > > Greek fonts were missing from redhat 8 and 9, the person who closed the bug report > from redhat said we should go figure out how to install the fonts outselfs. > > this isn't about translation, all we want is to be able to write in Greek throughout > the environment (gnome/kde apps etc). Linux helps those who help themselves. Surely there must be a few Greek developers out there? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From mail at lotus-notes.net Sat Mar 27 14:47:13 2004 From: mail at lotus-notes.net (mail at lotus-notes.net) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 09:47:13 -0500 Subject: Invalid GPG key from Fedora Core 2 update AND YUM failing aswell, YUM LOG ALSO IS EMPTY AFTER References: <00f201c41281$077a4030$04a8a8c0@p428><000701c413c1$97c91490$6500a8c0@p428> <1080367870.27841.17.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <007101c4140a$64e1bac0$6500a8c0@p428> Ok, in response to the question what did the yum log contain, NOTHING, totally empty file. I sat there and watched it download each of the updates. Could the wrong version of yum connected to the wrong mirror possibly? I used the version that came with core 2 on the iso's. Help someone please, to either fix yum or this GPG certificate error. This is really frustrating. Has anyone successfully use apt to update A fedora core? ----- Original Message ----- From: "seth vidal" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 1:11 AM Subject: Re: Invalid GPG key from Fedora Core 2 update AND YUM failing aswell > On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 01:06 -0500, mail at lotus-notes.net wrote: > > > I ran yum update to try to get around manually clicking it was okay to > > download EACH of the 600 updates for Linux. > > > > It seemed to run just fine, ran for about 1 hour and updated NOTHING. Upon > > reboot RHN still said everything need to be updated? > > > > What is wrong here? How could it run and download , I watched it work, it > > showed the little dashes and package name and eta for each?? > > > > Please help someone! I have 1 week in on trying to get a succcesful updated > > install now. > > > > what does /var/log/yum.log say it did? > > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 27 14:52:07 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 09:52:07 -0500 Subject: Invalid GPG key from Fedora Core 2 update AND YUM failing aswell, YUM LOG ALSO IS EMPTY AFTER In-Reply-To: <007101c4140a$64e1bac0$6500a8c0@p428> References: <00f201c41281$077a4030$04a8a8c0@p428><000701c413c1$97c91490$6500a8c0@p428> <1080367870.27841.17.camel@binkley> <007101c4140a$64e1bac0$6500a8c0@p428> Message-ID: <1080399127.27841.21.camel@binkley> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 09:47 -0500, mail at lotus-notes.net wrote: > Ok, in response to the question what did the yum log contain, NOTHING, > totally empty file. > > I sat there and watched it download each of the updates. Could the wrong > version of yum connected to the wrong mirror possibly? I used the version > that came with core 2 on the iso's. > > Help someone please, to either fix yum or this GPG certificate error. > > This is really frustrating. Has anyone successfully use apt to update A > fedora core? > so you ran yum update and you saw it complete? What did it say when it finished? can you cut and paste the output? could you give me the output of these commands: rpm -q fedora-release rpm -q yum rpm -q rpm and attach your yum.conf here -sv From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sat Mar 27 14:53:10 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:53:10 +0100 Subject: Bad or non implemented Greek (and other) fonts? In-Reply-To: <1080323808.32137.72.camel@death.local> References: <200403251807.52587.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200403261514.33917.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1080323808.32137.72.camel@death.local> Message-ID: <200403271553.10215.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Mikko Paananen wrote: > [many things about the fonts, some files, possibilities and so on] Thank you very much for this answer! I will follow the advices as long as they are new to me (I tried Gentium, the rpm does not work for me, maybe I must have a closer look). Really thanks, Roland From asenci at uol.com.br Sat Mar 27 14:56:32 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:56:32 -0300 Subject: Setting sound level on startup In-Reply-To: <1080396809.3324.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040322143642.D930031533@neuromancer.voxel.net> <1079990952.2421.11.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1080396809.3324.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080399392.16094.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> yum install alsa-tools alsamixer alsactl store Worked fine for me. Just add "alsactl restore" to your /etc/rc.d/rc.local. Em S?b, 2004-03-27 ?s 16:13 +0200, Maynard Kuona escreveu: > On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 14:36, Thomas Molina wrote: > > > I was wondering if you posters have something in /etc/modprobe.conf > > > similar to what I have: > > > alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 > > > install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && > > > /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > > > > > > I'm not sure what this is supposed to do, but it appears it might > > > reset aumix to 0 on reboot. > > > > That section will install the driver for your sound card when sound > > services are requested. When it loads the driver it will load your mixer > > settings from /etc/.aumixrc. If your driver defaults to muted, or the > > /etc/.aumixrc file starts out with zeros for sound levels you won't get > > any sound. Once your system is up and running, use the tools to set > > volume levels and have them saved. > > > > There is also a similar line which gets run when the sound module is > > removed which saves the current volume levels back into /etc/.aumixrc From asenci at uol.com.br Sat Mar 27 15:04:28 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:04:28 -0300 Subject: fc2 yum dependency issue In-Reply-To: <20040326225736.GB22344@ece.arizona.edu> References: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> <20040326191146.GA1253@isurfer.ca> <1080328962.26468.15.camel@binkley> <1080340786.8983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040326225736.GB22344@ece.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <1080399867.16094.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> I can install some programs without any problems with yum, but I still can't update (dependences issue) and some mirrors still don't work. Do you have any suggestions of mirrors for yum and apt-get? I've already installed apt and synaptic packages (using yum). The errors I'm getting: [root ~]# yum -C update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: AtRPMs - Good Server: AtRPMs - Stable Server: Ibiblio - Development Core Server: Livna - Stable Server: redIRIS - OS Server: redIRIS - Stable Server: redIRIS - Updates Server: Unicamp - Development Core Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies ..Package XFree86 needs XFree86-xfs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not available. Package XFree86 needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not available. Package XFree86-devel needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not available. [root ~]# After adding some new mirrors: [root ~]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: AtRPMs - Good Server: AtRPMs - Stable Server: Fedora US - OS Server: Fedora US - Stable Server: Fedora US - Testing Server: Fedora US - Unstable Server: Fedora US - Updates Server: Fresh RPMs - Core Server: Ibiblio - Development Core retrygrab() failed for: ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/ development/i386/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/ fedora/linux/core/development/i386/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 headers: No such file or directory Em Sex, 2004-03-26 ?s 15:57 -0700, Michael Stenner escreveu: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 07:39:46PM -0300, Andr? S. wrote: > > I'm having a lot of problems trying to update with up2date and yum, yum > > usually fails to get headers from some servers. Is apt-get better? > > Many differences? > > Well, if you can't get data from the servers, there's not much that > ANY program can do. Yum and apt use different metadata schemes, so > it's _possible_ that you'd have more luck with apt. However, it > sounds like your fundamental problem is getting reliable server > access. Try and find some free-er mirrors. Of course, the network > problems could be on your end, too. > > -Michael > -- > Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu > ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 > 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From asenci at uol.com.br Sat Mar 27 15:07:13 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:07:13 -0300 Subject: IrDA Question In-Reply-To: <200403270148.15973.wmp1784@exchange.uta.edu> References: <200403270148.15973.wmp1784@exchange.uta.edu> Message-ID: <1080400033.16094.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Did you patched the kernel? You should use /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc/lirc0 and be sure to load lirc_serial before serial_core Em S?b, 2004-03-27 ?s 01:48 -0600, William Penton escreveu: > Sorry about that. =] > > > Has anyone been able to to get infrared working? > > The problem is when ever I run: > > [root at localhost nexxuz]# irrecord -d /dev/ttyS0 testfile > ... > Hold down an arbitrary button. > irrecord: gap not found, can't continue > [root at localhost nexxuz]# > > I have tryed ttyS0, ttyS1, ttyS2, ttyS3, but to no avail. > How am I suppost to know which one is the one I need to be working with? > > Info about my computer: > Kernel 2.6.1-1.65 > lirc-0.6.6-2.fr > irrecord-0.5 > > Thanks in advance. > -William Penton > > -- > ,.~'`'~.,.~'`'~.,.~'`'~.,.~'`'~., > "Captain, life is not a dream." > -Spock > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 27 15:12:17 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:12:17 -0500 Subject: fc2 yum dependency issue In-Reply-To: <1080399867.16094.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> <20040326191146.GA1253@isurfer.ca> <1080328962.26468.15.camel@binkley> <1080340786.8983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040326225736.GB22344@ece.arizona.edu> <1080399867.16094.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080400337.27841.29.camel@binkley> > The errors I'm getting: > [root ~]# yum -C update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: AtRPMs - Good > Server: AtRPMs - Stable > Server: Ibiblio - Development Core > Server: Livna - Stable > Server: redIRIS - OS > Server: redIRIS - Stable > Server: redIRIS - Updates > Server: Unicamp - Development Core > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > ..Package XFree86 needs XFree86-xfs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not > available. > Package XFree86 needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not > available. > Package XFree86-devel needs XFree86-libs = 4.3.0-45.0.1, this is not > available. > [root ~]# ok. The errors you're seeing here are just upgrade errors from the XFree86 to xorg-x11 packages. They're packaging problems - apt will do the same thing. Also you have a completely mind boggling number of repositories there. Mixing repositories that much is never a safe thing. > After adding some new mirrors: > [root ~]# yum update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: AtRPMs - Good > Server: AtRPMs - Stable > Server: Fedora US - OS > Server: Fedora US - Stable > Server: Fedora US - Testing > Server: Fedora US - Unstable > Server: Fedora US - Updates > Server: Fresh RPMs - Core > Server: Ibiblio - Development Core > retrygrab() failed for: > > ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/headers/header.info > Executing failover method > failover: out of servers to try > Error getting file > ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/headers/header.info > [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 headers: No such file or > directory which means that the ibiblio mirror is not in sync - read the last line. Use a different mirror. Or put multiple mirrors in your baseurl line so yum can do it's automatic failover if one mirror doesn't have the data. -sv From rshaw5 at midsouth.rr.com Sat Mar 27 15:17:22 2004 From: rshaw5 at midsouth.rr.com (rshaw5 at midsouth.rr.com) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 09:17:22 -0600 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? Message-ID: <2d4ef22d837e.2d837e2d4ef2@columbus.rr.com> > >> yum install xorg-x11* I'm having problems with using globs with yum, every time I'd do a.. yum install xorg-x11* It would take a while (366 laptop) and get where it would ask if this was ok and I'l type "y" and enter. Then it would say "Exiting on user command". After thinking I did something wrong and trying again a few times I gave up and just did yum install xorg-x11 and it worked. Richard From pbender at qualcomm.com Sat Mar 27 15:16:28 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 07:16:28 -0800 Subject: A question (why the change from XFree86 to XOrg In-Reply-To: <200403271038.37087.manu@kromtek.com> References: <200403271038.37087.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <40659ACC.9010107@qualcomm.com> It's all about the license change. With the final release of XFree86 4.4.0, XFree86 made some license changes that are not acceptable to most (if not all) of the open source community. Essentially, the current xorg release is the last release of the XFree86 4.4.0 branch before XFree86 changed the license. Manu Abraham wrote: > Hi, > Could someone tell me why there is a change from XFree86 to XOrg ? > > Regards, > Manu > > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 27 15:19:13 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:19:13 -0500 Subject: UPGRADE to Xorg-X11, is it safe?? In-Reply-To: <2d4ef22d837e.2d837e2d4ef2@columbus.rr.com> References: <2d4ef22d837e.2d837e2d4ef2@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <1080400753.27841.32.camel@binkley> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 09:17 -0600, rshaw5 at midsouth.rr.com wrote: > > >> yum install xorg-x11* > > I'm having problems with using globs with yum, every time I'd do a.. > > yum install xorg-x11* > > It would take a while (366 laptop) and get where it would ask if this > was ok and I'l type "y" and enter. Then it would say "Exiting on user > command". After thinking I did something wrong and trying again a few > times I gave up and just did are you typing anything while yum is doing the dep check or anything else? Also I've found you may want to escape wildcards from the shell so yum install xorg-x11\* -sv From rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu Sat Mar 27 16:34:07 2004 From: rwa1 at cec.wustl.edu (Richard Ayer III) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:34:07 -0600 Subject: migrating to xorg References: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com><20040327110848.GA4490@free.fr> <406573A1.8070609@gmx.de> Message-ID: <00ae01c41419$f7e5b1a0$72b9fc80@rwa1> That's what I did, and it worked just fine. Richard Ayer III ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 6:29 AM Subject: Re: migrating to xorg > Patrice Dumas wrote: > > >The following worked for me: > > > >rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | grep XFree86 | sed 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum > >-y install > > > > > afaik > > # yum install xorg-x11* > > should be ok. > > -- > shrek-m > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From cmadams at hiwaay.net Sat Mar 27 17:10:11 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:10:11 -0600 Subject: no mirrors working? In-Reply-To: <406558A2.9060203@xmission.com> References: <406558A2.9060203@xmission.com> Message-ID: <20040327171011.GA1488830@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, RaXeT said: > Trying mirror.hiwaay.net:21 > Connected to mirror.hiwaay.net:21 > Disconnecting from site mirror.hiwaay.net Sorry, mirror.hiwaay.net fall down and go boom, and I haven't gone in to reboot it yet because Georgia Tech played basketball (and it was on in HD! and they won!) and I got 2 DVDs of MAME ROMs yesterday. Hopefully, it'll be back in an hour or two. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From michal at harddata.com Sat Mar 27 17:10:07 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:10:07 -0700 Subject: migrating to xorg (yum bug) In-Reply-To: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com>; from davesbrown2@yahoo.com on Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:35:48PM -0800 References: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040327101007.A1972@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:35:48PM -0800, Dave Brown wrote: > Reading the list and Chris Adams suggestions for > install xorg I issued the command: > > rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' | grep XFree86 | sed > 's/XFree86/xorg-x11/' | xargs yum install > > but then was presented with: ..... > Is this ok [y/N]: Traceback (most recent call last): .... > EOFError: EOF when reading a line This looks to me like a bug in yum. It should not try to be interactive if stdin is not coming from tty. If it should then assume automatically an anwer "y" in an absence of other information (configuration or a command line) this is a good question. I would be inclined to answer yes to that but it can be argued that this is not safe. Yes, I know that there is '-y' command line option and "assume-yes". To bugzilla? Michal From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat Mar 27 17:16:54 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:16:54 -0500 Subject: migrating to xorg (yum bug) In-Reply-To: <20040327101007.A1972@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> <20040327101007.A1972@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1080407813.27841.35.camel@binkley> > This looks to me like a bug in yum. It should not try to be > interactive if stdin is not coming from tty. If it should then > assume automatically an anwer "y" in an absence of other information > (configuration or a command line) this is a good question. I would > be inclined to answer yes to that but it can be argued that this is > not safe. > > Yes, I know that there is '-y' command line option and > "assume-yes". -y is what you're supposed to do and NO assuming yes w/o it explicitly being passed in as an option is NOT safe. If you're going to piping output to yum use -y, that's the answer, there. -sv From michal at harddata.com Sat Mar 27 17:18:40 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:18:40 -0700 Subject: migrating to xorg In-Reply-To: <406573A1.8070609@gmx.de>; from shrek-m@gmx.de on Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 01:29:21PM +0100 References: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> <20040327110848.GA4490@free.fr> <406573A1.8070609@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20040327101840.B1972@mail.harddata.com> On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 01:29:21PM +0100, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > afaik > > # yum install xorg-x11* > > should be ok. This installs not only replacements for your original XFree86 packages but, probably, some more. Turkish, Syriac, Cyrillic fonts, Xnest, Xfvb, ... Things like that. If you want these, or care, that is another question. What Chris shown is more circumspect but the above is surely simpler. :-) Michal From michal at harddata.com Sat Mar 27 17:24:40 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:24:40 -0700 Subject: migrating to xorg (yum bug) In-Reply-To: <1080407813.27841.35.camel@binkley>; from skvidal@phy.duke.edu on Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 12:16:54PM -0500 References: <20040327073548.26378.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> <20040327101007.A1972@mail.harddata.com> <1080407813.27841.35.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <20040327102440.C1972@mail.harddata.com> On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 12:16:54PM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > > This looks to me like a bug in yum. It should not try to be > > interactive if stdin is not coming from tty. If it should then > > assume automatically an anwer "y" in an absence of other information > > (configuration or a command line) this is a good question. I would > > be inclined to answer yes to that but it can be argued that this is > > not safe. > > > > Yes, I know that there is '-y' command line option and > > "assume-yes". > > -y is what you're supposed to do and NO assuming yes w/o it explicitly > being passed in as an option is NOT safe. If you're going to piping > output to yum use -y, that's the answer, there. Well, ok, then automatically assume in circumstances above that the answer is NO unless a config file says otherwise. It could display some warning to that effect. Bailing out with a backtrace does not look like the right action. Michal From wmp1784 at exchange.uta.edu Sat Mar 27 18:40:41 2004 From: wmp1784 at exchange.uta.edu (William Penton) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:40:41 -0600 Subject: IrDA Question In-Reply-To: <1080400033.16094.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200403270148.15973.wmp1784@exchange.uta.edu> <1080400033.16094.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200403271240.41533.wmp1784@exchange.uta.edu> > Did you patched the kernel? I have not patched my kernel. Do I have to? > You should use /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc/lirc0 and be sure to load The output is the same for "/dev/lirc" irrecord: gap not found, can't continue and for "/dev/lirc/lirc0" irrecord: readlink() failed for "/dev/lirc/lirc0" irrecord: Not a directory irrecord: could not create lock files irrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions) > and be sure to load lirc_serial before serial_core Do I need to still load this even tho its a USB reciever? (sorry I did't metion that earlier) Sigmatel STIr4200 IrDA Bridge From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Sat Mar 27 19:35:19 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:35:19 +0200 Subject: Setting sound level on startup In-Reply-To: <1080399392.16094.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040322143642.D930031533@neuromancer.voxel.net> <1079990952.2421.11.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1080396809.3324.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1080399392.16094.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080416119.21434.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 16:56, Andr? S. wrote: > yum install alsa-tools > alsamixer > alsactl store > > Worked fine for me. > Just add "alsactl restore" to your /etc/rc.d/rc.local. The problem is saving volumes. I already load volumes on startup. I think the one I had suggested is slightly better because it allows the user to save their own volumes. alsactl save will refuse to do anything if not run as root, because the file /etc/asound.state is owned by root. Unless you want to modify the permissions on that file. using alsactl -f allows you to choose a file to store and read the volumes from. I need a way to save the volumes when I am logging out. From janina at rednote.net Sat Mar 27 21:06:22 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 16:06:22 -0500 Subject: console beep missing In-Reply-To: <200403270205.i2R25lp08347@rgmgw6.us.oracle.com> References: <200403270205.i2R25lp08347@rgmgw6.us.oracle.com> Message-ID: <20040327210622.GF4451@rednote.net> donald raikes writes: > While the volume was set to 0, setting it up didn't resolve the problem. As it turns out, I had to do the following as well. > > modprobe pcspkr Yes, but I'd still like to learn how to put this into /etc/modprobe.conf. I don't find any doc on this and I would very much like to have this start automatically on boot. > > This resolved the problem. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Alexandre Oliva > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:44 AM > To: donald raikes > Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: console beep missing > > > On Mar 26, 2004, donald raikes wrote: > > > Just got fc2 installed, and noticed that the console beep sound is missing. > > > How do I re-enable it? > > Could it just be that the default volume is set to zero by alsa, the > new sound system? > > -- > Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ > Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} > Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 From asenci at uol.com.br Sat Mar 27 21:09:27 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:09:27 -0300 Subject: IrDA Question In-Reply-To: <200403271240.41533.wmp1784@exchange.uta.edu> References: <200403270148.15973.wmp1784@exchange.uta.edu> <1080400033.16094.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200403271240.41533.wmp1784@exchange.uta.edu> Message-ID: <1080421401.1680.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> In this case you can try ir-usb module. But I don't know if it will work with lirc. As your receiver isn't suported by lirc modules, I don't think you will need to patch the kernel. Have you tried lirc 0.7? Em S?b, 2004-03-27 ?s 12:40 -0600, William Penton escreveu: > > Did you patched the kernel? > I have not patched my kernel. Do I have to? > > > You should use /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc/lirc0 and be sure to load > The output is the same for "/dev/lirc" > irrecord: gap not found, can't continue > > and for "/dev/lirc/lirc0" > irrecord: readlink() failed for "/dev/lirc/lirc0" > irrecord: Not a directory > irrecord: could not create lock files > irrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check > permissions) > > > and be sure to load lirc_serial before serial_core > Do I need to still load this even tho its a USB reciever? > (sorry I did't metion that earlier) > Sigmatel STIr4200 IrDA Bridge > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From asenci at uol.com.br Sat Mar 27 21:09:29 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:09:29 -0300 Subject: fc2 yum dependency issue In-Reply-To: <1080400337.27841.29.camel@binkley> References: <200403261843.i2QIhrf28155@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> <20040326191146.GA1253@isurfer.ca> <1080328962.26468.15.camel@binkley> <1080340786.8983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040326225736.GB22344@ece.arizona.edu> <1080399867.16094.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1080400337.27841.29.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1080421767.1680.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've removed Ibiblio from the list, how can I fix the XFree86 errors? I've tried to download a new version from rpmfind.net but still the same errors. Can't yum just ignore XFree86 so I can update my system? Em S?b, 2004-03-27 ?s 10:12 -0500, seth vidal escreveu: > ok. The errors you're seeing here are just upgrade errors from the > XFree86 to xorg-x11 packages. They're packaging problems - apt will do > the same thing. Also you have a completely mind boggling number of > repositories there. Mixing repositories that much is never a safe thing From asenci at uol.com.br Sat Mar 27 21:12:20 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:12:20 -0300 Subject: console beep missing In-Reply-To: <20040327210622.GF4451@rednote.net> References: <200403270205.i2R25lp08347@rgmgw6.us.oracle.com> <20040327210622.GF4451@rednote.net> Message-ID: <1080421940.1680.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Try adding "/sbin/modprobe pcspkr" to your /etc/rc.local. Em S?b, 2004-03-27 ?s 16:06 -0500, Janina Sajka escreveu: > donald raikes writes: > > While the volume was set to 0, setting it up didn't resolve the problem. As it turns out, I had to do the following as well. > > > > modprobe pcspkr > > Yes, but I'd still like to learn how to put this into /etc/modprobe.conf. I don't find any doc on this and I would very much like to have this start automatically on boot. > > > > > This resolved the problem. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Alexandre Oliva > > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:44 AM > > To: donald raikes > > Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > Subject: Re: console beep missing > > > > > > On Mar 26, 2004, donald raikes wrote: > > > > > Just got fc2 installed, and noticed that the console beep sound is missing. > > > > > How do I re-enable it? > > > > Could it just be that the default volume is set to zero by alsa, the > > new sound system? > > > > -- > > Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ > > Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} > > Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 28 01:04:36 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:04:36 -0500 Subject: Update Question Message-ID: <406624A4.90805@sbcglobal.net> Is this a legal command in Linux to upgrade your box rpm -Uvh *.rpm http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ From hutuworm at hz.cn Sun Mar 28 01:16:17 2004 From: hutuworm at hz.cn (hutuworm) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:16:17 +0800 Subject: Update Question Message-ID: <0HV900C1ZHN82J@inbound1.hz.gov.cn> jim tate, up2date -u -f is better. ======= 2004-03-28 09:04:36 Quote from your mail ======= >Is this a legal command in Linux to upgrade your box >rpm -Uvh *.rpm >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >. ================================================== hutuworm From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sun Mar 28 01:38:59 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:38:59 -0300 Subject: Problems with serial ata Message-ID: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> As I just bought my first serial ata disk , I'm having lockup problems on my two fedora installations (FC2t1 and FC1). The hardware I'm using is a Asus A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard (Silicon sata chip) , using a seagate disk (not configured as raid). The OS is installed on a parallel ata disk and has worked for a long time without problems. The problem happens when I remove "hde=noprobe" from the boot line to detect the serial ata disk (it is being recognized as hde). The system locks and no messages appear on /var/log/messages . On the other O$, it works perfectly... This locks happen on FC2t1 and on FC1 (both fully updated). The problem happens with full system load or even if the system is sitting idle... Any ideas? I'm gonna make more tests , this time with smartd disabled and see if I can pinpoint the cause of the problems... -- Pedro Macedo From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 28 01:42:43 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:42:43 -0500 Subject: Problems with serial ata In-Reply-To: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <20040328014242.GA23145@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 10:38:59PM -0300, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > The hardware I'm using is a Asus A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard (Silicon sata > chip) , using a seagate disk (not configured as raid). The OS is > installed on a parallel ata disk and has worked for a long time without > problems. The problem happens when I remove "hde=noprobe" from the boot > line to detect the serial ata disk (it is being recognized as hde). > The system locks and no messages appear on /var/log/messages . On the > other O$, it works perfectly... You may need a BIOS update with Nvidia chipset systems (especially older ones) and SI3112. From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sun Mar 28 02:18:43 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:18:43 -0300 Subject: Problems with serial ata In-Reply-To: <20040328014242.GA23145@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <20040328014242.GA23145@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40663603.4060805@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Alan Cox wrote: > >You may need a BIOS update with Nvidia chipset systems (especially older >ones) and SI3112. > > It's weird.. I used the asus app that comes in the CD to check if there were any bios updates.. I just found out that the bios I'm using (rev 1007) , which is the latest release for my motherboard (I have updated the bios just after I bought the motherboard..)... I'm gonna check my motherboard and do some more tests here.. -- Pedro Macedo From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 28 02:19:11 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:19:11 -0800 Subject: spurious interrupt? In-Reply-To: <20040326094642.A9361@mail.harddata.com> References: <200403260435.i2Q4ZlU02116@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com> <20040326094642.A9361@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040328021911.GC26487@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 09:46:42AM -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:35:45PM -0700, donald raikes wrote: > > > > While waiting for the dependencies to be resolved, I get the following message displayed: > > > > spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7 > > > > Any idea what may be causing this? > > See, for example, here: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3C174EDD.9090306%40hotmail.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dspurious%2B8259A%2Binterrupt%253A%2BIRQ7%26meta%3Dsite%253Dgroups > > and other messages in that thread. Usually this is a hardware > problem, and if sporadic then nothing to worrry about, but see that > URL. > > If you will search in "google groups" then you will find much more. :-) A spurious interrupt is commonly seen when interrupt service code checks a device and there is nothing to service. Is your BIOS setup to deal with things like automatic power management or something. How are interrupts assigned. Are there multiple devices vectored to the same interrupt.... Multiple video resources, multiple PCI cards, multiple PCI buses, multiple processors. If you get a spurious interrupt once in a while but in all other regards things are fine, then things are fine. There could be a small time window race in the interrupt handler where one device and it's interrupt is not correctly masked or cleared. Or, what happens when a dynamic driver is loaded and unloaded.... You could also have some unused device that has an active watchdog timer set on by power on default. It interrupts but the device is not being checked by software i.e. it's interrupt is vectored to a different device handler. To sort it all out you have to inventory all hardware. Then map all hardware interrupts through the hardware to handlers. The occasional spurious interrupt is a non problem. A lost/ dropped interrupt can be. So, if things are working fine do not fret. Of interest one early (1979) hardware application note with a reference design for an interrupt controller had a design issue. It could produce occasional spurious interrupts in some systems. If I recall it was a Motorola application note but it could have been Intel. It had a ~2 ns instability window or some such thing as interrupts were masked and latched. Now with fast logic and modern integration levels this same design would have a sub pico second window. This classic design might still be used inside complex parts with multiple functional blocks. The good news is that it does not discard an interrupt. And yes it could also be hardware, a cold solder joint, a cracked pull up or termination resistor or cap.... Again, if things are working fine do not fret. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From n1kx at cox.net Sun Mar 28 02:51:01 2004 From: n1kx at cox.net (Davis Whittaker) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:51:01 -0500 Subject: system-config-httpd Message-ID: <1080442261.27747.2.camel@sasebo> Is it just me, or is system-config-httpd still broken? Looked like it was flagged as fixed in bugzilla a couple of weeks ago, but I have never successfully run it. Any others? Thanks, Dave From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sun Mar 28 03:02:12 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 00:02:12 -0300 Subject: Problems with serial ata In-Reply-To: <40663603.4060805@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <20040328014242.GA23145@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40663603.4060805@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <40664034.1030805@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > It's weird.. I used the asus app that comes in the CD to check if > there were any bios updates.. I just found out that the bios I'm using > (rev 1007) , which is the latest release for my motherboard (I have > updated the bios just after I bought the motherboard..)... > I'm gonna check my motherboard and do some more tests here.. > Just to add more info: I just downloaded the 1007 Bios for the 2.0 revision of the A7N8X-Deluxe series... Then , I used the proggie made by asus to download the "updated" bios from their sites and saved it on other folder.. Here's the description for the update shown by the program (I didnt understand it , as I dont speak german , but I can see that it is marked as beta): Wichtig: Laden Sie VOR & NACH jedem Update im BIOS die "Setup defaults" ! Ein BIOS-Update geschieht generell auf eigene Gefahr. ACHTUNG ! Diese BIOS ist nur f?r die Platinen Revisionen 2.xx ! (siehe Platinenaufdruck) FINAL = beta Status 1007 = 1007.005 ?nderungen der Finalversionen finden Sie stets unter: http://download.asus.com.tw ?nderungen der Betaversionen werden nicht ver?ffentlicht. I've saved a copy of the bios I had on my computer and the md5sum doesnt match the md5 of the bios downloaded from their site or using their proggie.. Right now I'm on the asus download page and I found another beta bios , but they dont have much information about what it does (the description on the site is: "The latest Beta BIOS."). I'm gonna do some more tests , as I have flashed my computer with the latest released bios downloaded by me from the asus site... -- Pedro Macedo From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sun Mar 28 03:31:53 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:31:53 -0500 Subject: Interested in zeroconf? Message-ID: http://freshmeat.net/projects/howl/?branch_id=46439&release_id=155767 From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Sun Mar 28 03:42:20 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 05:42:20 +0200 Subject: Problems with serial ata In-Reply-To: <40664034.1030805@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <20040328014242.GA23145@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40663603.4060805@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <40664034.1030805@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <1080445339.7065.506.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am So, den 28.03.2004 schrieb Pedro Fernandes Macedo um 05:02: > Wichtig: > Laden Sie VOR & NACH jedem Update > im BIOS die "Setup defaults" ! > Ein BIOS-Update geschieht generell > auf eigene Gefahr. Important: Load BEFORE & AFTER each update in the BIOS the "setup defaults"! A BIOS update is at your own risk. > ACHTUNG ! > Diese BIOS ist nur f?r die > Platinen Revisionen 2.xx ! > (siehe Platinenaufdruck) ATTENTION! This BIOS is only for the motherboard revisions 2.xx! (see motherboard label) > FINAL = beta Status > 1007 = 1007.005 > > ?nderungen der Finalversionen > finden Sie stets unter: > http://download.asus.com.tw > ?nderungen der Betaversionen > werden nicht ver?ffentlicht. Changes of the final versions you always find on: http://download.asus.com.tw Changes of beta versions will not be published. > Pedro Macedo Hope it helps. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl Sirendipity 05:38:30 up 8 days, 13:20, load average: 0.39, 0.13, 0.05 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sun Mar 28 04:01:53 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 01:01:53 -0300 Subject: Problems with serial ata In-Reply-To: <1080445339.7065.506.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> References: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <20040328014242.GA23145@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40663603.4060805@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <40664034.1030805@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <1080445339.7065.506.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <40664E31.40602@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Alexander Dalloz wrote: >Hope it helps. > >Alexander > > Now I know what was written... Thx.. I'm doing tests now and I decided to capture the sound I sometimes hear (and I wish I didnt..) . Usually it happens on windoze , while listening to mp3s ... The system locks and I get a weird noise on my headphones ( see it here: www.dcc.ufmg.br/~pmacedo/noise.mp3 ). I had to connect my mp3 player to the headphone output of my PC so I could record this.. I dont recall seeing this happening in linux , so I always thought it was a windoze problem , but now this may be related to my new sata problems... I'm gonna send a e-mail to asus support and see what I can find out... -- Pedro Macedo From spam at tachegroup.com Sun Mar 28 04:17:02 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:17:02 -0500 Subject: SMP - Hyperthread - Fedora? Message-ID: So I was wondering how to get my Hyperthreaded laptop, an Alienware Area 51m 766, to work with the SMP kernel. Currently it hangs upon boot. SO I was wondering how to figure out what is not working. As I start my quest, has anyone done this? The conputer uses the SIS 648FX Northbridge and the SIS 963 Southbridge. From jbinpg at shaw.ca Sun Mar 28 04:49:32 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:49:32 -0800 Subject: Strange package dependency problem In-Reply-To: <1079969272.11508.11.camel@opus> References: <1079827926.15236.5.camel@binkley> <20040321014547.GA24542@localhost.localdomain> <64809.65.41.50.216.1079836566.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321031609.GA24833@localhost.localdomain> <65217.65.41.50.216.1079841782.squirrel@65.41.50.216> <20040321192018.GA20358@localhost.localdomain> <1079899837.578.7.camel@binkley> <20040322000333.GA20786@localhost.localdomain> <1079969272.11508.11.camel@opus> Message-ID: <20040328044932.GA27589@shaw.ca> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:27:52AM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > no, it's not that there is not room for improvement I'm just not sure > how useful it is to spend a lot of time focusing on improving a > situation that only happens to people using rawhide. At some level > people using rawhide should know that the world will break and bring > pain into their being. Amen. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From manu at kromtek.com Sun Mar 28 05:27:57 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:27:57 +0400 Subject: Problems with serial ata In-Reply-To: <20040328014242.GA23145@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <20040328014242.GA23145@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403280927.57550.manu@kromtek.com> I had problems just like that with the P4C800 Deluxe from Asus 875 chipset using ICH5 SATA I tried with FC1 though. I had to enable compatibility mode. Enhanced mode doesn't work, same goes with the D865Perl ICH5 865 chipset Intel motherboard, eventhough it loads up libata. I therefore believe whatever troubles where there in FC1, it still exists ? Regards, Manu On Sunday 28 Mar 2004 5:42 am, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 10:38:59PM -0300, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > > The hardware I'm using is a Asus A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard (Silicon sata > > chip) , using a seagate disk (not configured as raid). The OS is > > installed on a parallel ata disk and has worked for a long time without > > problems. The problem happens when I remove "hde=noprobe" from the boot > > line to detect the serial ata disk (it is being recognized as hde). > > The system locks and no messages appear on /var/log/messages . On the > > other O$, it works perfectly... > > You may need a BIOS update with Nvidia chipset systems (especially older > ones) and SI3112. From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun Mar 28 08:59:10 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:59:10 +0200 Subject: Update Question In-Reply-To: <0HV900C1ZHN82J@inbound1.hz.gov.cn> References: <0HV900C1ZHN82J@inbound1.hz.gov.cn> Message-ID: <406693DE.30608@gmx.de> hutuworm wrote: >up2date -u -f is better. > > why ? -f = --force, use this only if there is really no other possibility $ man up2date # up2date-nox -u $ man yum # yum update >>Is this a legal command in Linux to upgrade your box >>rpm -Uvh *.rpm >>http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ >> >> while tesing i prefer yum, up2date-nox, up2date for rhl/fedora i use $ wget -cr ftp://bla.bla # rpm -Fvh /path/to/rpms_and_for_kernel.arch_glibc.arch afaik 'up2date' and 'yum' can handle $ARCH proper, with 'rpm' you could run in trouble (search in bugzilla) eg. $ rpm -qa --qf "%{arch} %{name}\n" kernel* glibc* i386 kernel-utils athlon kernel i386 glibc-common athlon kernel i386 kernel-pcmcia-cs i386 kernel-source i386 glibc-kernheaders i386 glibc-devel i686 glibc i386 glibc-headers rpm can handle ftp:// better than http:// eg. i had less problems with # rpm -Fvh ftp://bla.bla/*.rpm -- shrek-m From hutuworm at hz.cn Sun Mar 28 09:11:00 2004 From: hutuworm at hz.cn (hutuworm) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:11:00 +0800 Subject: Update Question Message-ID: <0HVA0064R3EK83@inbound2.hz.gov.cn> shrek-m, up2date -u -f make things done in a simple way, that automaticly updates all rpms including kernel rpms, rather than rpm -Uhv *.rpm blah blah... ======= 2004-03-28 16:59:10 Quote from your mail ======= >hutuworm wrote: > >>up2date -u -f is better. >> >> > >why ? > >-f = --force, use this only if there is really no other possibility > > >$ man up2date ># up2date-nox -u > >$ man yum ># yum update > >>>Is this a legal command in Linux to upgrade your box >>>rpm -Uvh *.rpm >>>http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ >>> >>> > >while tesing i prefer yum, up2date-nox, up2date > >for rhl/fedora i use >$ wget -cr ftp://bla.bla ># rpm -Fvh /path/to/rpms_and_for_kernel.arch_glibc.arch > > >afaik >'up2date' and 'yum' can handle $ARCH proper, >with 'rpm' you could run in trouble (search in bugzilla) > > >eg. >$ rpm -qa --qf "%{arch} %{name}\n" kernel* glibc* >i386 kernel-utils >athlon kernel >i386 glibc-common >athlon kernel >i386 kernel-pcmcia-cs >i386 kernel-source >i386 glibc-kernheaders >i386 glibc-devel >i686 glibc >i386 glibc-headers > > >rpm can handle ftp:// better than http:// > >eg. >i had less problems with ># rpm -Fvh ftp://bla.bla/*.rpm > > > >-- >shrek-m > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list ================================================== hutuworm From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Mar 28 11:12:27 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:12:27 +0100 Subject: yum dead? Message-ID: <1080472347.11415.23.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I can't seem to connect to any of the yum servers for 1.91. Are they down atm? My yum file is attached. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gplou at centrenad.com Sun Mar 28 12:48:53 2004 From: gplou at centrenad.com (gplou at centrenad.com) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 07:48:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Unable to align partition Message-ID: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> When installing core 2 test 1 the installer tell me about a problem with my partion "Unable to align..." If I ignore it, disk druid show my windows xp disk with some weird cylinder number and partition. Thats fine with me because I want to install to an other disk anyway. When I do that Fedora installation go fine but the installer write that broken partition over the old working one and I endup with my system not booting anymore. I think the installer shouldnt rewrite partition if you are not modifing them. I tought the problem was due to the partition I made from windows XP or something but every other distro I try install fine with no such problem. I got 2 computer with basicly the same setup and both get the error with fedora. Last nigh I gave an other try to it with the development boot.iso and a ftp install to the development tree and the same problem occur again. I did some googleing and search on the list but I couldnt find anyone else with the same problem and playing with my bios setting didnt help. Any idea? thx. -- Guillaume From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun Mar 28 13:11:27 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:11:27 +0200 Subject: Where to discuss probable bugs in test x86_64? Message-ID: <1080479486.5111.13.camel@littlePiet> I just installed the x86_64 devel tree on my brand new AMD 64 system. Impressive performance and most things seem to work. Where is the right place to discuss (probable) bugs: this list or the x86_64 list? Thanks Peter From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun Mar 28 13:21:14 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:21:14 +0200 Subject: When starting to report missing items in localisation? Message-ID: <1080480073.5111.21.camel@littlePiet> I suppose as with the current status of test 1 / test 2 translating the Fedora projects is currently work in progress. So bug report should be constraint to bugs in already translated parts. When should we start to report missing parts? Thanks Peter From czar at czarc.net Sun Mar 28 13:48:27 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:48:27 -0500 Subject: Unable to align partition In-Reply-To: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> References: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> Message-ID: <200403280848.27783.czar@czarc.net> On Sunday 28 March 2004 07:48, gplou at centrenad.com wrote: > When installing core 2 test 1 the installer tell me about a problem with > my partion "Unable to align..." If I ignore it, disk druid show my windows > xp disk with some weird cylinder number and partition. Thats fine with me > because I want to install to an other disk anyway. When I do that Fedora > installation go fine but the installer write that broken partition over > the old working one and I endup with my system not booting anymore. I > think the installer shouldnt rewrite partition if you are not modifing > them. > > I tought the problem was due to the partition I made from windows XP or > something but every other distro I try install fine with no such problem. > I got 2 computer with basicly the same setup and both get the error with > fedora. Last nigh I gave an other try to it with the development boot.iso > and a ftp install to the development tree and the same problem occur > again. > > I did some googleing and search on the list but I couldnt find anyone else > with the same problem and playing with my bios setting didnt help. Any > idea? thx. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=113201 Supposedly (comments either in bugzilla or one of these mailing lists) the problem is that the 2.6 kernel has changed a few things and also parted has been changed to not "fixup" things. The result is that (IMHO) things are broken. OK, what can be done ... 1. Only use fdisk to do allocations ... with druid, only edit existing partitions. 2. Never modify a screwed up partition or do an install if the screwed up partition is hda or has a swap area. (I have been OK installing to a partition on hda and with the screwed up partition on a SATA drive which was hde on FC2). 3. The most likely case (at least for me) is an LBA32 partition which comes up with native parameters. This can be "fixed". Knowing the LBA32 parameters, you can override at boot time (including the install boot) by specifying hdx=cyl,heads,sectors. For example, for a 120GB drive with native parameters of 238216,16,63 but LBA32 parameters of 14946,255,63 you would specify something like hda=14946,255,63 at boot time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I have seen the broken partition problem occur in two situations: 1. A 60GB Maxtor on hda was intially partitioned by win2k to install it. After that it was partitioned by FC1 (both parted initially and then fdisk) with no problems. However, when I tried installed FC2 in a predefined partition, it came up "broken" Interesting is that there is an identical 60GB Maxtor drive as hdb and it has a good LBA32 partition. To install FC2Test1, I used the LBA32 override described above. 2. The second situation occurred when I installed a 120GB SATA drive on a system running FC1. Under the 2.4 kernel and FC1, this drive is seen as a scsi drive and had parameters of 238216,16,63. When I went to install FC2Test1, it reported that the partition table was screwed up. Since I was not touching that disk, I ignored this and everything seems to be OK. On FC2 with the 2.6 kernel, the SATA drive is seen as a ide drive (hde in my case). Hope this helps. -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Sun Mar 28 13:52:00 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:52:00 -0500 Subject: Where to discuss probable bugs in test x86_64? In-Reply-To: <1080479486.5111.13.camel@littlePiet> References: <1080479486.5111.13.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <200403280852.00945.czar@czarc.net> On Sunday 28 March 2004 08:11, Peter Boy wrote: > I just installed the x86_64 devel tree on my brand new AMD 64 system. > Impressive performance and most things seem to work. Where is the right > place to discuss (probable) bugs: this list or the x86_64 list? Either one will probably work. Be sure to check bugzilla as well as the recent archive of amd64-list at redhat.com. -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Sun Mar 28 13:54:56 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:54:56 -0500 Subject: Where to discuss probable bugs in test x86_64? In-Reply-To: <200403280852.00945.czar@czarc.net> References: <1080479486.5111.13.camel@littlePiet> <200403280852.00945.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <200403280854.56060.czar@czarc.net> On Sunday 28 March 2004 08:52, Gene C. wrote: > On Sunday 28 March 2004 08:11, Peter Boy wrote: > > I just installed the x86_64 devel tree on my brand new AMD 64 system. > > Impressive performance and most things seem to work. Where is the right > > place to discuss (probable) bugs: this list or the x86_64 list? > > Either one will probably work. Be sure to check bugzilla as well as the > recent archive of amd64-list at redhat.com. Oops ... almost forgot .. and the archives of fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com -- Gene From mike at netlyncs.com Sun Mar 28 14:05:39 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:05:39 -0600 Subject: yum dead? In-Reply-To: <1080472347.11415.23.camel@T7.linux> References: <1080472347.11415.23.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1080482739.12984.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 05:12, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I can't seem to connect to any of the yum servers for 1.91. Are they > down atm? My yum file is attached. I believe the headers dir for rawhide was removed. I mirror rawhide via a mirror server and mine got deleted during rsync. Not sure what is going on. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From rshewmon at yahoo.com Sun Mar 28 14:21:02 2004 From: rshewmon at yahoo.com (Ruth Shewmon) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 06:21:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: dealing with alsa Message-ID: <20040328142102.40126.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> This is probobly the wrong mailing list to ask this on, but here goes. I have an asus a7n8x motherboard with an integrated sound card. When I run the soundcard detection program, it says: "The snd-intel8x0 driver could not be loaded. This soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux." This is strange because this same computer worked fine with kernel 2.6 and alsa on Fedora core 1. Even more strange, lsmod shows that the snd-intel8x0 module is loaded. However, when I try to load the soundcore module, I am informed that there is no such module. So here's my question: what has changed? Is there a file in a different place? Is soundcore compiled right into the kernel instead of as a module? My plan of action now is to un-install the alsa-lib rpm and just compile alsa and a new kernel myself, but before I do, am I overlooking something really obvious? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun Mar 28 14:33:15 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:33:15 +0200 Subject: missing/lost(?) item in the desktop context menu Message-ID: <1080484394.5111.43.camel@littlePiet> I just installed the x86_64 devel tree (it's my first working installation of Core 2, because test 1 didn't install on my machines). Previously a right mouse click onto the desktop brought up a context menue which contained an "open new window" entry which brought up a Nautilus window. It is gone now - unfortunately -, by intention or by fault? Is there a chance to get it back? Instead there is a new entry "create document". Is there a way to fill the submenue with specific document types and corresponding applications (unfortunately I couldn't find it)? Peter From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sun Mar 28 14:37:04 2004 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:37:04 +0100 Subject: 2.6 kernel 2.6.4-1.290 reboots on unsuspend Message-ID: <4066E310.1020106@mesias.co.uk> Hi, I'm seeing problems with the new kernel 2.6.4-1.290. My machine has issues with ACPI so I am using APM for now. I can get a reasonably working system with APM, but ACPI doesn't report battery levels at all. The real problem is that the machine reboots when it comes out of being suspended. I wondered if anything had changed in the kernels recently causing this behaviour? I think the original 2.6 kernel from the FC2 test 1 isos worked normally. If it is the kernel kapmd, is there some way to disable or tune it's behaviour? I am running the user space apmd (apmd-3.0.2-20) but if I kill that before suspending, it doesn't help. Any ideas? -Cam From asenci at uol.com.br Sun Mar 28 14:42:51 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:42:51 -0300 Subject: dealing with alsa In-Reply-To: <20040328142102.40126.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040328142102.40126.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1080484970.2547.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> the error is caused by the module that is already loaded, soundcore is builtin in the kernel. you just have to set the volumes using gnome mixer or install alsa-utils to use the alsamixer/alsactl Em Dom, 2004-03-28 ?s 06:21 -0800, Ruth Shewmon escreveu: > This is probobly the wrong mailing list to ask this > on, but here goes. I have an asus a7n8x motherboard > with an integrated sound card. When I run the > soundcard detection program, it says: "The > snd-intel8x0 driver could not be loaded. This > soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux." > This is strange because this same computer worked fine > with kernel 2.6 and alsa on Fedora core 1. Even more > strange, lsmod shows that the snd-intel8x0 module is > loaded. However, when I try to load the soundcore > module, I am informed that there is no such module. > So here's my question: what has changed? Is there a > file in a different place? Is soundcore compiled > right into the kernel instead of as a module? My plan > of action now is to un-install the alsa-lib rpm and > just compile alsa and a new kernel myself, but before > I do, am I overlooking something really obvious? > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sun Mar 28 14:48:25 2004 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:48:25 +0100 Subject: FC2 test 1 / kernel 2.6.4-1.290 sound not working (snd-maestro3) Message-ID: <4066E5B9.5070106@mesias.co.uk> Hi, I have some strange problems with sound which worked on FC1 and 2.4 kernel but hasn't been well under FC2 test 1 and 2.6 kernel. The module does not load automatically and I have to issue # modprobe snd-maestro3 manually before any sound is used. Then the volume levels appear to be set to 0, the mixer can be used to raise them but the values are not remembered after a reboot. The volume control 2.5.7 panel applet tries to raise the volume but after any changes the slider is set back to zero (even if the mixer has been turned up. What have I missed in upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6 to make the sound work smoothly? -Cam PS I have /etc/modules.conf which does include /etc/modprobe.conf.dist, then defines alias sound-slot-0 snd-maestro3. There is also a line: install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; } remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove sound-slot-0 alsa-lib-devel-1.0.3a-1 alsa-lib-1.0.3a-1 alsa-utils-1.0.3-1 From reader at newsguy.com Sun Mar 28 14:58:58 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:58:58 -0600 Subject: Update Question In-Reply-To: <406693DE.30608@gmx.de> (shrek-m@gmx.de's message of "Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:59:10 +0200") References: <0HV900C1ZHN82J@inbound1.hz.gov.cn> <406693DE.30608@gmx.de> Message-ID: "shrek-m at gmx.de" writes: > while tesing i prefer yum, up2date-nox, up2date > > for rhl/fedora i use > $ wget -cr ftp://bla.bla > # rpm -Fvh /path/to/rpms_and_for_kernel.arch_glibc.arch Will that catch new packages that you don't already have a version of? From gplou at centrenad.com Sun Mar 28 14:53:04 2004 From: gplou at centrenad.com (gplou at centrenad.com) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:53:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Unable to align partition In-Reply-To: <200403280848.27783.czar@czarc.net> References: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> <200403280848.27783.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <60123.65.94.88.115.1080485584.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> > -----Message d'origine----- > De : "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > Envoy? : Sun, March 28, 2004 8:48 > ? : fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Objet : Re: Unable to align partition > > On Sunday 28 March 2004 07:48, gplou at centrenad.com wrote: >> When installing core 2 test 1 the installer tell me about a problem with >> my partion "Unable to align..." If I ignore it, disk druid show my >> windows >> xp disk with some weird cylinder number and partition. Thats fine with >> me >> because I want to install to an other disk anyway. When I do that Fedora >> installation go fine but the installer write that broken partition over >> the old working one and I endup with my system not booting anymore. I >> think the installer shouldnt rewrite partition if you are not modifing >> them. >> >> I tought the problem was due to the partition I made from windows XP or >> something but every other distro I try install fine with no such >> problem. >> I got 2 computer with basicly the same setup and both get the error with >> fedora. Last nigh I gave an other try to it with the development >> boot.iso >> and a ftp install to the development tree and the same problem occur >> again. >> >> I did some googleing and search on the list but I couldnt find anyone >> else >> with the same problem and playing with my bios setting didnt help. Any >> idea? thx. > > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=113201 > > Supposedly (comments either in bugzilla or one of these mailing lists) the > problem is that the 2.6 kernel has changed a few things and also parted > has > been changed to not "fixup" things. The result is that (IMHO) things are > broken. OK, what can be done ... > > 1. Only use fdisk to do allocations ... with druid, only edit existing > partitions. > > 2. Never modify a screwed up partition or do an install if the screwed up > partition is hda or has a swap area. (I have been OK installing to a > partition on hda and with the screwed up partition on a SATA drive which > was > hde on FC2). > > 3. The most likely case (at least for me) is an LBA32 partition which > comes > up with native parameters. This can be "fixed". Knowing the LBA32 > parameters, you can override at boot time (including the install boot) by > specifying hdx=cyl,heads,sectors. For example, for a 120GB drive with > native > parameters of 238216,16,63 but LBA32 parameters of 14946,255,63 you would > specify something like hda=14946,255,63 at boot time. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I have seen the broken partition problem occur in two situations: > > 1. A 60GB Maxtor on hda was intially partitioned by win2k to install it. > After that it was partitioned by FC1 (both parted initially and then > fdisk) > with no problems. However, when I tried installed FC2 in a predefined > partition, it came up "broken" Interesting is that there is an identical > 60GB Maxtor drive as hdb and it has a good LBA32 partition. To install > FC2Test1, I used the LBA32 override described above. > > 2. The second situation occurred when I installed a 120GB SATA drive on a > system running FC1. Under the 2.4 kernel and FC1, this drive is seen as a > scsi drive and had parameters of 238216,16,63. When I went to install > FC2Test1, it reported that the partition table was screwed up. Since I > was > not touching that disk, I ignored this and everything seems to be OK. On > FC2 > with the 2.6 kernel, the SATA drive is seen as a ide drive (hde in my > case). > > Hope this helps. > > -- > Gene > Thanks alot, the hda= things work great. I just finished installing the march 27 tree. The broken table is on hda and was created while installing Windows XP in both computers. 1 as a western digital 80gig and the other one as a maxtor 30gig. -- Guillaume From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Sun Mar 28 15:31:22 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:31:22 +0200 Subject: Strange nfs problem after update Message-ID: <1080487882.4323.10.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> Hi Folks, since I rebooted my machine after the latest updates I cannot mount the nfs exports on that machine. When I try to mount I get an 'Permission denied' error. The strange thing about this is that /var/log/messages just says: Mar 28 17:01:41 my_machine rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from my_client.de:978 for /usr/local/share (/usr/local/share) This doesn?t look like an error? After some resaerch @ google I can say that my /etc/exports, /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.allow seem to be OK: /etc/exports: /usr/local/share 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(sync,rw) /etc/hosts.allow: tcp-env: 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0, 192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0, 192.168.0.3/255.255.255.0: setenv = RELAYCLIENT tcp-env: ALL Are there any other logs available? What could cause this? I was also researching for iptables issues. The problem occurs even with disabled iptables (iptables -F). Any help is appreciated! Thanks & Regards, Chris From tmolina at cablespeed.com Sun Mar 28 15:31:53 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:31:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: X Windows appears to lock up Message-ID: I've got this problem where the X Windows system appears to malfunction after some indeterminite time under Fedora Core 2 test 1. Unless I am doing something wrong it probably needs putting in bugzilla, but my observations to this point are rather amorphous so I will describe it and solicit suggestions on how to proceed for further data gathering I can put into bugzilla. I have the screensaver set to blank after five minutes, cycle after five minutes, and lock the screen after zero minutes. This gives me a random screensaver which cycles between random patterns every five minutes and locks the screen as soon as it kicks in, which is excatly what I want. If I watch, it cycles, blanks, and locks as expected. However, after some indeterminite time greater than one hour and less than six hours X goes away and refuses to come back. I say greater than one hour and less than six hours because I have watched it for an hour at a time and saw it act normally, but if I leave it operating overnight X is locked up when I get up in the morning. When I say locked up I mean I see a blank screen with no graphics, no mouse cursor, and no ability to kill X from that screen. Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc does not kill the X Server, and Ctrl+Alt+Fx doesn't switch to other virtual consoles. However, everything else is unaffected. The mailserver is functioning normally, nfs shares are served out, and I can telnet in with no problem. I just can't kill X, nor switch to another console to kill it. I can telnet in and kill -9 it or, if I have previously switched to another console, I can kill -9 it there. There does not appear to be anything relevant in /var/log/messages, nor in XFree86.0.log. It has happened with all the Fedora Core 2 test kernels, as well as with the stock Linus 2.6 kernels. It does not happen with Fedora Core 1 under any conditions. So there you have it. I have a description of a problem, but not a lot of hard data or debugging material. It seems I may have missed something, but I am not sure what. It also seems to be an X problem, but that is not conclusive. Otherwise it wouold have happened in Core 1 or behaviour would have changed with the switch to x11-org. Can someone suggest something I have missed or some way to gather more data for bugzilla? From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 28 15:43:30 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:43:30 -0500 Subject: yum dead? In-Reply-To: <1080472347.11415.23.camel@T7.linux> References: <1080472347.11415.23.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1080488610.31785.21.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 12:12 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I can't seem to connect to any of the yum servers for 1.91. Are they > down atm? My yum file is attached. > > TTFN What error is yum exiting with? -sv From pauln at truemesh.com Sun Mar 28 15:40:12 2004 From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:40:12 +0000 Subject: X Windows appears to lock up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040328154011.GE15672@lichen.truemesh.com> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 10:31:53AM -0500, Thomas Molina wrote: > I've got this problem where the X Windows system appears to malfunction > after some indeterminite time under Fedora Core 2 test 1. Unless I am > doing something wrong it probably needs putting in bugzilla, but my > observations to this point are rather amorphous so I will describe it and > solicit suggestions on how to proceed for further data gathering I can put > into bugzilla. This is already in bugzilla (probably bug subject should be changed) http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118697 (plus a dupe or two) I suggest you test to see if it's the same ie if running glxinfo causes immediate symptoms. If so I suggest you add details to that bug. Paul From andy at plausible.org Sun Mar 28 16:13:27 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:13:27 -0800 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing Message-ID: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> The "headers" directory has disappeared from the development trees. Yum cannot update, and is dying with the following error: Error getting file http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found I *do* notice a "headers" directory at the top level (alongside the architecture directories). Did something get misplaced? Andy From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 28 16:26:06 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:26:06 -0500 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> Message-ID: <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 08:13 -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > The "headers" directory has disappeared from the development trees. > Yum cannot update, and is dying with the following error: > Error getting file http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/headers/header.info > [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found to be anal - yum is not broken - yum is doing exactly what it should do under the circumstance where the metadata it requires is missing. It's exiting with what I think is a fairly obvious error. I'm being picky, I know, but I'm trying to offset a bunch of bug reports about yum being 'broken' b/c it can't find data that's not there. :) thanks -sv From rhally at mindspring.com Sun Mar 28 16:36:58 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:36:58 -0500 Subject: X Windows appears to lock up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4066FF2A.5070105@mindspring.com> I have had a very similar problem when I have the screen saver pick randomly and it gets to one named "polytopes" it locks up X and my system completely. Uncheck that one and see if the problem goes away. Richard Hally Thomas Molina wrote: >I've got this problem where the X Windows system appears to malfunction >after some indeterminite time under Fedora Core 2 test 1. Unless I am >doing something wrong it probably needs putting in bugzilla, but my >observations to this point are rather amorphous so I will describe it and >solicit suggestions on how to proceed for further data gathering I can put >into bugzilla. > >I have the screensaver set to blank after five minutes, cycle after five >minutes, and lock the screen after zero minutes. This gives me a random >screensaver which cycles between random patterns every five minutes and >locks the screen as soon as it kicks in, which is excatly what I want. If >I watch, it cycles, blanks, and locks as expected. However, after some >indeterminite time greater than one hour and less than six hours X goes >away and refuses to come back. I say greater than one hour and less than >six hours because I have watched it for an hour at a time and saw it act >normally, but if I leave it operating overnight X is locked up when I get >up in the morning. > >When I say locked up I mean I see a blank screen with no graphics, no >mouse cursor, and no ability to kill X from that screen. Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc >does not kill the X Server, and Ctrl+Alt+Fx doesn't switch to other >virtual consoles. However, everything else is unaffected. The mailserver >is functioning normally, nfs shares are served out, and I can telnet in >with no problem. I just can't kill X, nor switch to another console to >kill it. I can telnet in and kill -9 it or, if I have previously switched >to another console, I can kill -9 it there. > >There does not appear to be anything relevant in /var/log/messages, nor in >XFree86.0.log. It has happened with all the Fedora Core 2 test kernels, >as well as with the stock Linus 2.6 kernels. It does not happen with >Fedora Core 1 under any conditions. > >So there you have it. I have a description of a problem, but not a lot of >hard data or debugging material. It seems I may have missed something, >but I am not sure what. It also seems to be an X problem, but that is not >conclusive. Otherwise it wouold have happened in Core 1 or behaviour >would have changed with the switch to x11-org. > >Can someone suggest something I have missed or some way to gather more >data for bugzilla? > > > > From andy at plausible.org Sun Mar 28 16:44:48 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:44:48 -0800 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> Seth Vidal wrote: > to be anal - yum is not broken - yum is doing exactly what it should do > under the circumstance where the metadata it requires is missing. It's > exiting with what I think is a fairly obvious error. > > I'm being picky, I know, but I'm trying to offset a bunch of bug reports > about yum being 'broken' b/c it can't find data that's not there. :) You're beeing way too picky. :) To expand the elided English in my subject: Yum [has been] broken [because the] header directory [is] missing Are you OK with that verb tense? Seriously: "yum" might be your code, but it's also an update system most of us rely on to get new stuff from the download servers. If the *system* is broken, we should be able to submit bug reports against "[the] yum [update system]" without worrying about hurting the feelings of individual developers. :) Andy From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 28 16:47:20 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:47:20 -0500 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> Message-ID: <1080492440.31785.39.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 08:44 -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > Seth Vidal wrote: > > to be anal - yum is not broken - yum is doing exactly what it should do > > under the circumstance where the metadata it requires is missing. It's > > exiting with what I think is a fairly obvious error. > > > > I'm being picky, I know, but I'm trying to offset a bunch of bug reports > > about yum being 'broken' b/c it can't find data that's not there. :) > > You're beeing way too picky. :) > > To expand the elided English in my subject: > > Yum [has been] broken [because the] header directory [is] missing > > Are you OK with that verb tense? > > Seriously: "yum" might be your code, but it's also an update system > most of us rely on to get new stuff from the download servers. If the > *system* is broken, we should be able to submit bug reports against > "[the] yum [update system]" without worrying about hurting the > feelings of individual developers. :) It's not my feelings that are being hurt. I realize there are bugs in yum, I expect them. But the paths being non-existent is not one and I was hoping I could offset a lot of bugzilla email by clearing up your message. So no, it's not about my feelings, it's about my available time. If I have to close a bunch of bugs then I have less time. That's all. Nothing emotional, just practical. -sv From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Sun Mar 28 17:06:10 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:06:10 -0700 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> Message-ID: <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 08:44:48AM -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > To expand the elided English in my subject: > > Yum [has been] broken [because the] header directory [is] missing > > Are you OK with that verb tense? I find that a bit like saying "my car is broken because I tried to use the wrong key". In this case, your "car [-based transportation system]" is indeed not getting you where you need to go :) > Seriously: "yum" might be your code, but it's also an update system > most of us rely on to get new stuff from the download servers. If the > *system* is broken, we should be able to submit bug reports against > "[the] yum [update system]" without worrying about hurting the > feelings of individual developers. :) Well, it's not just our feelings :) When people look through the archives of a mailing list and see 20 different threads with variations on the subject "yum is broken" or "bug in yum", etc, one can (understandably) get the impression that yum is buggy or prone to failure. If the problems really are "somebody put the wrong url in their config file" then that's a different matter entirely. I guess what I'm saying is that "broken" and "misconfigured" have very different connotations (to me, at least). If this url appeared in the shipped yum package, then it is ABSOLUTELY a reportable bug. I'm only saying that the language leads some be believe you're reporting a different bug (the yum executable is faulty) than you're really reporting (the mirror changed). -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 28 17:21:16 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:21:16 -0500 Subject: Unable to align partition In-Reply-To: <60123.65.94.88.115.1080485584.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> References: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> <200403280848.27783.czar@czarc.net> <60123.65.94.88.115.1080485584.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> Message-ID: <20040328172116.GA21846@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 09:53:04AM -0500, gplou at centrenad.com wrote: > > Supposedly (comments either in bugzilla or one of these mailing lists) the > > problem is that the 2.6 kernel has changed a few things and also parted > > has > > been changed to not "fixup" things. The result is that (IMHO) things are > > broken. OK, what can be done ... The kernel now lets user space handle partition maps. Since the case you are talking about involves a pre-existing partition table it is clearly a bug in parted/disk druid as the partition numbers can be (and should have been) taken from the table itself. The fun starts with a blank disk. In those cases providing Linux writes the partition table either native or to match the BIOS windows should then adopt that partition map too. (and in theory but evidently not practice this beta 8) the reverse) Alan From andy at plausible.org Sun Mar 28 17:41:27 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:41:27 -0800 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <40670E47.3080708@plausible.org> Michael Stenner wrote: > I guess what I'm saying is that "broken" and "misconfigured" have > very different connotations (to me, at least). If this url appeared > in the shipped yum package, then it is ABSOLUTELY a reportable bug. You didn't even try to reproduce this, did you? :) It's not a user level misconfiguration. The headers directory has disappeared from the master download server, and all the mirrors have synced up and deleted their copies. This is a rather serious bug: no one will be able to use yum to update their systems until it is fixed. But don't you worry: it's not yum's fault. Yum is functioning exactly as it should. Users that report "yum update fails" are just mistaken, and should be publicly mocked until they report the bug against the download servers instead. :) Whatever. Honestly, I apologize for putting "yum" in the subject of the message (even though I thought I made it clear what was going on in the body, and even though that *is* the user-visible impact of the bug). Apparently there's a history here that I don't understand. Still, someone needs to fix this. Andy From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sun Mar 28 17:43:03 2004 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:43:03 +0100 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <40670EA7.6090903@mesias.co.uk> Michael > Well, it's not just our feelings :) When people look through the > archives of a mailing list and see 20 different threads with > variations on the subject "yum is broken" or "bug in yum", etc, one > can (understandably) get the impression that yum is buggy or prone to > failure. If the problems really are "somebody put the wrong url in > their config file" then that's a different matter entirely. > > I guess what I'm saying is that "broken" and "misconfigured" have very > different connotations (to me, at least). If this url appeared in the > shipped yum package, then it is ABSOLUTELY a reportable bug. I'm only > saying that the language leads some be believe you're reporting a > different bug (the yum executable is faulty) than you're really > reporting (the mirror changed). There really is a bug in the system, I'm guessing that the technology in yum doesn't help the developers to provide the repositories as much as it helps the users to download from them. I had assumed the repository was a-changing and a new headers file would be available soon... For the record my yum.conf contains a line from the yum-2.0.6-1 yum.conf.fedora: baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ Which gives rise to: [root at freebie cxm]# yum install yum Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree retrygrab() failed for: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found whereas it used to work. The only real problems I have seen in yum (as a system) have been: * this (repository changes with no redirect. Fix: bitch about it and find a new headers file), * out-of date headers fetched from a mirror but not validated against the main server (eg. for a while my system would fetch outdated headers that required openssh which was no longer available). Fix: delete /var/cache/yum, narrow down the mirrors to the master server and try again. * finally, generally inefficient behaviour (downloading headers one by one instead of having a compressed archive of headers, excessive timeouts on individual downloads making yum hang for too long when the server stops sending, downloading stuff even if the user downloaded it 30 sec ago and had to ctrl-C yum for some reason. Mostly though, it just works really well :) -Cam From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sun Mar 28 17:45:05 2004 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:45:05 -0700 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> Message-ID: <20040328174505.GG28260@charlescurley.com> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 08:44:48AM -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > Seth Vidal wrote: > > to be anal - yum is not broken - yum is doing exactly what it should do > > under the circumstance where the metadata it requires is missing. It's > > exiting with what I think is a fairly obvious error. > > > > I'm being picky, I know, but I'm trying to offset a bunch of bug reports > > about yum being 'broken' b/c it can't find data that's not there. :) > > You're beeing way too picky. :) No, he is not. Seth is absolutely correct. As he is absolutely correct, he is not picky in the least. > > To expand the elided English in my subject: > > Yum [has been] broken [because the] header directory [is] missing Even with the amended sentence, yum is not broken. The server is broken. The solution is for the administrator to run yum-arch on it. > > Are you OK with that verb tense? > > Seriously: "yum" might be your code, but it's also an update system > most of us rely on to get new stuff from the download servers. Then a more accurate subject would be in order. > If the *system* is broken, we should be able to submit bug reports > against "[the] yum [update system]" without worrying about hurting > the feelings of individual developers. :) I am not concerned with Seth's feelings; I'm sure he can take care of them himself. I am concerned with the precise use of the English language. Think of language like a network protocol. If you don't use a network protocol correctly, you don't communicate. Similarly, if you don't use English correctly, you don't communicate. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Mar 28 17:47:18 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:47:18 -0500 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <40670E47.3080708@plausible.org> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> <40670E47.3080708@plausible.org> Message-ID: <1080496037.31785.46.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 09:41 -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > Michael Stenner wrote: > > I guess what I'm saying is that "broken" and "misconfigured" have > > very different connotations (to me, at least). If this url appeared > > in the shipped yum package, then it is ABSOLUTELY a reportable bug. > > You didn't even try to reproduce this, did you? :) I did and yes, the headers dirs are gone right now, They're not on the mirror master either. > It's not a user level misconfiguration. The headers directory has > disappeared from the master download server, and all the mirrors have > synced up and deleted their copies. This is a rather serious bug: no > one will be able to use yum to update their systems until it is fixed. Nor will they be able to use up2date to update their systems. All michael and I have been trying to say is that this is not a bug IN YUM. We're just trying to limit the number of messages we get from bugzilla, nothing more. this is not about mocking you, this is not about mocking or denigrating users or anyone. This is about TRYING, apparently in vain, given the length of this thread, to limit the time we will waste closing bugs b/c of the error on the mirror master. > Whatever. Honestly, I apologize for putting "yum" in the subject of > the message (even though I thought I made it clear what was going on > in the body, and even though that *is* the user-visible impact of the > bug). Apparently there's a history here that I don't understand. > > Still, someone needs to fix this. yes. It's been reported to the mirror people. It's a weekend, many people are home with families and what not. -sv From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Sun Mar 28 18:01:45 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:01:45 -0700 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <40670E47.3080708@plausible.org> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> <40670E47.3080708@plausible.org> Message-ID: <20040328180144.GC32621@ece.arizona.edu> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 09:41:27AM -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > Michael Stenner wrote: > > I guess what I'm saying is that "broken" and "misconfigured" have > > very different connotations (to me, at least). If this url appeared > > in the shipped yum package, then it is ABSOLUTELY a reportable bug. > > You didn't even try to reproduce this, did you? :) Why should I? I believe you and the error report is very clear. I never called into question the facts of your report, only the language you used. > It's not a user level misconfiguration. The headers directory has > disappeared from the master download server, and all the mirrors have > synced up and deleted their copies. This is a rather serious bug: no > one will be able to use yum to update their systems until it is fixed. I attempted to capture that sentiment when I said "it is ABSOLUTELY a reportable bug". I'm sorry if that was unclear. > But don't you worry: it's not yum's fault. Yum is functioning exactly > as it should. Yes. In fact, it is. When an incorrect url is provided, it tells you and exits. This IS functioning as it should. > Users that report "yum update fails" are just mistaken, No. "yum update fails" is perfectly accurate. What you said was "yum is broken", which is not accurate. > and should be publicly mocked until they report the bug against the > download servers instead. :) Nobody ever mocked you. We corrected you. There was no malice. We all get corrected all the time. It's no big deal. It is not a personal attack. > Whatever. Honestly, I apologize for putting "yum" in the subject of > the message (even though I thought I made it clear what was going on > in the body, and even though that *is* the user-visible impact of the > bug). "yum update fails" "yum url is incorrect" "default yum configuration is broken" "yum repository changed" "yum headers dir moved" All of those contain "yum" and are simultaneously accurate. It is not the presence of the word "yum" that I don't like. It is the incorrectness of the statement about yum: "yum is broken". > Apparently there's a history here that I don't understand. Not that I'm aware of. > Still, someone needs to fix this. I NEVER suggested that it not get fixed. I COMPLETELY agree with you on that. It is CLEARLY a problem and should ABSOLUTELY be fixed. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From czar at czarc.net Sun Mar 28 18:09:34 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:09:34 -0500 Subject: Unable to align partition In-Reply-To: <60123.65.94.88.115.1080485584.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> References: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> <200403280848.27783.czar@czarc.net> <60123.65.94.88.115.1080485584.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> Message-ID: <200403281309.34526.czar@czarc.net> On Sunday 28 March 2004 09:53, gplou at centrenad.com wrote: > The broken table is on hda and was created while installing Windows XP in > both computers. 1 as a western digital 80gig and the other one as a maxtor > 30gig. Yes, there is something about Win2k or XP created partition tables that parted does not like. -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Sun Mar 28 18:14:19 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:14:19 -0500 Subject: Unable to align partition In-Reply-To: <20040328172116.GA21846@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> <60123.65.94.88.115.1080485584.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> <20040328172116.GA21846@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403281314.19131.czar@czarc.net> On Sunday 28 March 2004 12:21, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 09:53:04AM -0500, gplou at centrenad.com wrote: > > > Supposedly (comments either in bugzilla or one of these mailing lists) > > > the problem is that the 2.6 kernel has changed a few things and also > > > parted has > > > been changed to not "fixup" things. The result is that (IMHO) things > > > are broken. OK, what can be done ... > > The kernel now lets user space handle partition maps. Since the case > you are talking about involves a pre-existing partition table it is > clearly a bug in parted/disk druid as the partition numbers can be (and > should have been) taken from the table itself. Any suggestions on how to get this fixed? ... or at least looked at? I am not that knowledgable in kernel stuff of low level disk I/O myself. I could learn but have other higher priority stuff using up my time. > > The fun starts with a blank disk. In those cases providing Linux writes > the partition table either native or to match the BIOS windows should > then adopt that partition map too. (and in theory but evidently not > practice this beta 8) the reverse) Yes, I can see where a blank disk could present real difficulties -- just what are the "correct" parameters. The SATA interface switch betwen the 2.4 and 2.6 kernels does not help. -- Gene From gongolas at verizon.net Sun Mar 28 18:19:13 2004 From: gongolas at verizon.net (S. Gongola) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:19:13 -0500 Subject: keyboard locks on boot Message-ID: <200403281319.13197.gongolas@verizon.net> ps/2 keyboard kernel 2.6 When I boot the numlock light doesn't toggle on/off when I press the numlock key. When It asks for my username/password there is no output. After I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del a couple of time the screen shows something like .^3 .^3 .^3 and the all the other keys work. "please help me" From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Sun Mar 28 18:21:47 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:21:47 +0200 Subject: dealing with alsa In-Reply-To: <20040328142102.40126.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040328142102.40126.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040328202147.38138f27.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 06:21:02 -0800 (PST), Ruth Shewmon wrote: > This is probobly the wrong mailing list to ask this > on, but here goes. I have an asus a7n8x motherboard > with an integrated sound card. When I run the > soundcard detection program, it says: "The > snd-intel8x0 driver could not be loaded. This > soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux." > This is strange because this same computer worked fine > with kernel 2.6 and alsa on Fedora core 1. How did you configure your soundcard for ALSA on Fedora Core 1? The same should work on Fedora Core 1.9x unless you used alsconf. > Even more > strange, lsmod shows that the snd-intel8x0 module is > loaded. Fine. > However, when I try to load the soundcore > module, I am informed that there is no such module. soundcore.o is not ALSA, but OSS. > So here's my question: what has changed? Is there a > file in a different place? Is soundcore compiled > right into the kernel instead of as a module? My plan > of action now is to un-install the alsa-lib rpm and > just compile alsa and a new kernel myself, but before > I do, am I overlooking something really obvious? Difficult to comment on. When snd-intel8x0 is loaded, native ALSA driver is loaded. Whether ALSA's OSS compatibility drivers are loaded, too, you didn't say. That would need further investigation. -- From janina at rednote.net Sun Mar 28 18:45:31 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:45:31 -0500 Subject: console beep missing In-Reply-To: <1080421940.1680.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200403270205.i2R25lp08347@rgmgw6.us.oracle.com> <20040327210622.GF4451@rednote.net> <1080421940.1680.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040328184530.GC28426@rednote.net> Andr? S. writes: > Try adding "/sbin/modprobe pcspkr" to your /etc/rc.local. I can think of several workarounds. Point is, though, that it belongs in /etc/modprobe.conf. And, the proper incantation should be documented in the kernel source tree. > > > Em S?b, 2004-03-27 ?s 16:06 -0500, Janina Sajka escreveu: > > > donald raikes writes: > > > While the volume was set to 0, setting it up didn't resolve the problem. As it turns out, I had to do the following as well. > > > > > > modprobe pcspkr > > > > Yes, but I'd still like to learn how to put this into /etc/modprobe.conf. I don't find any doc on this and I would very much like to have this start automatically on boot. > > > > > > > > This resolved the problem. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > > > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Alexandre Oliva > > > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:44 AM > > > To: donald raikes > > > Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > Subject: Re: console beep missing > > > > > > > > > On Mar 26, 2004, donald raikes wrote: > > > > > > > Just got fc2 installed, and noticed that the console beep sound is missing. > > > > > > > How do I re-enable it? > > > > > > Could it just be that the default volume is set to zero by alsa, the > > > new sound system? > > > > > > -- > > > Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ > > > Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} > > > Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} > > > > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 From vherva at viasys.com Sun Mar 28 18:50:55 2004 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:50:55 +0300 Subject: "FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0'" after xorg transition Message-ID: <20040328185055.GO20358@viasys.com> I just moved to xorg-x11 (thanks to all fedora-test-list members for the hints on how to do that painlessly.) I went pretty smoothly. I have one problem, though. After the transition, I get these: FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for '/mnt/msdos/winnt/Fonts/lucon.ttf' FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for '/mnt/msdos/winnt/Fonts/lucon.ttf' And font "lucida console" (a Windows font) no longer works. I've tried recreate the font caches (mkfontdir, fc-cache -f, service xfs restart), but it doesn't seem to depend on that. Any idea what could cause that or how to fix it? -- v -- v at iki.fi From vherva at viasys.com Sun Mar 28 18:53:48 2004 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:53:48 +0300 Subject: Severe glibc upgrade problem Message-ID: <20040328185348.GO18771@viasys.com> This is a longish story, and I'm not sure where I should report this bug... Anyway, I was upgrading my Fedora Core Development installation with yum command yum --exclude=xorg\* --exclude=anaconda --exclude=gdm --exclude=kdebase --exclude=kde\* --exclude=chkfontpath --exclude=XFree86\* --exclude=epiphany --exclude=gkrellm --exclude=rpmdb-fedora update in preparation to move from XFree86 to x-org. At the time, I only had Fedora Devel base path in my yum.conf. yum downloaded the rpms slowly, but hell broke loose when rpm begun installing the first packages. Basically, glibc-common and glibc didn't install properly: glibc-common 100 % done 4/208 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/locale/zh_CN/LC_PAPER: cpio link exists warning: /etc/ld.so.conf created as /etc/ld.so.conf.rpmnew glibc 100 % done 5/208 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /lib/ld-2.3.3.so: cpio: open and after that, most of the rpm installs were fubar, because rpm could not execute anything due to missing ls-linux.so.2: pango 100 % done 7/208 error: %post(pango-1.4.0-1) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 I had left yum running by itself (as the upgrade took about 5 hours), so it kept on going these fubared installs for about 100 rpm's before it mis-upgraded python and sigbus'ed: zsh: bus error yum --exclude=xorg\* --exclude=anaconda --exclude=gdm --excl I found out that /lib/ld-linux.so.2, /lib/ld-2.2.3.so and /lib/tls/libc.so.6 were missing. Through various LD_LIBRARY_PATH, LD_PRELOAD, "/backup/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /bin/cp ..." and ash.static hacks I was able to restore so much glibc libraries that I could try to reinstall the rpm's. I verified the glibc rpm signatures, and md5 sums were ok. Installing glibc-utils-2.3.3-18, glibc-headers-2.3.3-18, glibc-2.3.3-18, glibc-devel-2.3.3-18, glibc-common-2.3.3-18 didn't prove easy, though. I got the same errors and lost the libraries again. The same story when trying to the previous glibc-2.3.3-16. This is using rpm-4.3-0.22 and rpm-4.3-0.20 (it was upgraded in the process.) I reinstalled rpm-4.3-0.22 with rpm -Uvh --force before retrying.) Basically it, appeared that rpm had become completely unable to handle cases where it should replace a file with a link, replace a running binary/library, or anything non-trivial. After I did rm -rf /usr/lib/locale and some other offending files, I was able to install glibc*. However, the same problems continued when I reinstalled the misinstalled rpm's: python 100 % done 18/208 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/python: cpio: link gcc-c++ 100 % done 82/208 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/c++: cpio: link e2fsprogs-devel 100 % done 69/208 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_generate.3.gz emacs 100 % done 96/208 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/emacs: cpio: link and reinstalling SysVinit complained that /sbin/init textfile was busy. Well, duh! (Sorry for the possibly inexact error messages, the rxvt where I cut'n'pasted these from was a bit garbled.) I opened up a bugzilla entry for rpm (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119122), but I'm not sure if this is a bug in the rpm packages, rpm itself, yum, or perhaps in cpio. I would suspect rpm. But is quite serious. There is a more complete yum install log attached to the bugzilla entry. -- v -- v at iki.fi From asenci at uol.com.br Sun Mar 28 18:56:40 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:56:40 -0300 Subject: keyboard locks on boot In-Reply-To: <200403281319.13197.gongolas@verizon.net> References: <200403281319.13197.gongolas@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1080500200.1641.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> are you using any usb devices?? Em Dom, 2004-03-28 ?s 13:19 -0500, S. Gongola escreveu: > ps/2 keyboard > kernel 2.6 > > When I boot the numlock light doesn't toggle on/off when I press the numlock > key. When It asks for my username/password there is no output. After I hit > Ctrl-Alt-Del a couple of time the screen shows something like .^3 .^3 .^3 and > the all the other keys work. > > "please help me" > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun Mar 28 18:58:13 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:58:13 +0200 Subject: dealing with alsa In-Reply-To: <20040328202147.38138f27.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <20040328142102.40126.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> <20040328202147.38138f27.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1080500293.3045.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 28/03/2004 ? 20:21, Michael Schwendt a ?crit : > On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 06:21:02 -0800 (PST), Ruth Shewmon wrote: > > [...] > soundcore.o is not ALSA, but OSS. > soundcore is used by ALSA AND OSS. From jent at spicylemons.com Sun Mar 28 19:04:03 2004 From: jent at spicylemons.com (Mike Jensen) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:04:03 -0700 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <42788.192.107.26.131.1080233865.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <42788.192.107.26.131.1080233865.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> Message-ID: <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> I hope I am not being redundant but I was unable to find anything about this. When i try to run 'system-config-soundcard' it opens and i say play test sound and it says 'the snd-emu10k1 driver could not be loaded. This soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux' in the consol I get this message: FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel. My soundcard is a soundblaster audigy w/1394....it is a 5.1 pci card...any thoughts on this one? -- Cheers, Mike Jensen jent at spicylemons.com cell at spicylemons.com irc.acidchat.net www.spicylemons.com From asenci at uol.com.br Sun Mar 28 19:10:31 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:10:31 -0300 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <42788.192.107.26.131.1080233865.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> Message-ID: <1080501031.2171.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> the module is already loaded, check the volumes... Em Dom, 2004-03-28 ?s 12:04 -0700, Mike Jensen escreveu: > I hope I am not being redundant but I was unable to find anything about this. > When i try to run 'system-config-soundcard' it opens and i say play test > sound and it says 'the snd-emu10k1 driver could not be loaded. This > soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux' in the consol I get this > message: FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel. My soundcard is a > soundblaster audigy w/1394....it is a 5.1 pci card...any thoughts on this > one? > > -- > Cheers, > Mike Jensen > jent at spicylemons.com > cell at spicylemons.com > irc.acidchat.net > www.spicylemons.com > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From georg at georgs.org Sun Mar 28 19:09:36 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:09:36 +0200 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <42788.192.107.26.131.1080233865.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> Message-ID: <406722F0.4020208@georgs.org> Mike Jensen schrieb: >I hope I am not being redundant but I was unable to find anything about this. >When i try to run 'system-config-soundcard' it opens and i say play test >sound and it says 'the snd-emu10k1 driver could not be loaded. > it's perhaps direct in the kernel so system-config-soundcard cannot load the modul. > This >soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux' in the consol I get this >message: FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel. > _already in kernel_ the means it is already loaded and should work ;) > My soundcard is a >soundblaster audigy w/1394....it is a 5.1 pci card...any thoughts on this >one? > > > HTH Georg E Schneider From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Sun Mar 28 19:13:49 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:13:49 +0200 Subject: dealing with alsa In-Reply-To: <1080500293.3045.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040328142102.40126.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> <20040328202147.38138f27.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> <1080500293.3045.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040328211349.1bc40872.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:58:13 +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > soundcore.o is not ALSA, but OSS. > > > > soundcore is used by ALSA AND OSS. Ooops, mixed it up with sound.o From jent at spicylemons.com Sun Mar 28 19:21:24 2004 From: jent at spicylemons.com (Mike Jensen) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:21:24 -0700 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <406722F0.4020208@georgs.org> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> <406722F0.4020208@georgs.org> Message-ID: <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> Yea it is in the kernel i knew that....but it dosent work and thats what i don't understand. I can not hear the test sound and I am unable to get oggs to play in xmms...no matter what output plugin i use. I have a feeling this is a bug of some kind. On Sunday 28 March 2004 12:09, Georg E Schneider wrote: > Mike Jensen schrieb: > >I hope I am not being redundant but I was unable to find anything about > > this. When i try to run 'system-config-soundcard' it opens and i say play > > test sound and it says 'the snd-emu10k1 driver could not be loaded. > > it's perhaps direct in the kernel so system-config-soundcard cannot load > the modul. > > > This > >soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux' in the consol I get > > this message: FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel. > > _already in kernel_ the means it is already loaded and should work ;) > > > My soundcard is a > >soundblaster audigy w/1394....it is a 5.1 pci card...any thoughts on this > >one? > > HTH > Georg E Schneider -- Cheers, Mike Jensen jent at spicylemons.com cell at spicylemons.com irc.acidchat.net www.spicylemons.com From asenci at uol.com.br Sun Mar 28 19:31:33 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:31:33 -0300 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> <406722F0.4020208@georgs.org> <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> Message-ID: <1080502293.2673.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> the volumes are all in max?? Em Dom, 2004-03-28 ?s 12:21 -0700, Mike Jensen escreveu: > Yea it is in the kernel i knew that....but it dosent work and thats what i > don't understand. I can not hear the test sound and I am unable to get oggs > to play in xmms...no matter what output plugin i use. I have a feeling this > is a bug of some kind. > On Sunday 28 March 2004 12:09, Georg E Schneider wrote: > > Mike Jensen schrieb: > > >I hope I am not being redundant but I was unable to find anything about > > > this. When i try to run 'system-config-soundcard' it opens and i say play > > > test sound and it says 'the snd-emu10k1 driver could not be loaded. > > > > it's perhaps direct in the kernel so system-config-soundcard cannot load > > the modul. > > > > > This > > >soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux' in the consol I get > > > this message: FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel. > > > > _already in kernel_ the means it is already loaded and should work ;) > > > > > My soundcard is a > > >soundblaster audigy w/1394....it is a 5.1 pci card...any thoughts on this > > >one? > > > > HTH > > Georg E Schneider > > -- > Cheers, > Mike Jensen > jent at spicylemons.com > cell at spicylemons.com > irc.acidchat.net > www.spicylemons.com > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at rueb.com Sun Mar 28 19:30:50 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:30:50 -0600 Subject: Shrinking an LVM root filesystem? Message-ID: <406727EA.3040806@rueb.com> Hi, I've built a server and installed FC1. I used LVM for /, /usr, /home, /var, and swap. /boot is in it's own partition. I fully intend to upgrade to FC2 when it is released, which is why I am posting here instead of the FC1 list. Not really knowing what I was doing, I sized my / rather larger than I should have, thinking that I could just shrink it later if I needed to. I've since decided that I will probably want to do just that, but if I understand correctly, I can only shrink unmounted filesystems. I could reinstall, as I have not gone live with this server yet. Is it possible to shrink / from rescue mode or something? Also, can I grow and shrink any filesystem I desire, anywhere in the LVG no matter what the order in which I defined them? i.e. is any free space in the LVG available to any filesystem in it? Sorry if I seem a bit dense, but this is my first LVM install. Oh, and while I'm asking questions, what is the status of ext2online and Fedora. I don't believe it is in FC2-test1 or rawhide. Is it planned for inclusion some time in the future? Any assistance is appreciated. Thanks, Steve Bergman From jent at spicylemons.com Sun Mar 28 19:41:04 2004 From: jent at spicylemons.com (Mike Jensen) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:41:04 -0700 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <1080502293.2673.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> <1080502293.2673.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200403281241.04437.jent@spicylemons.com> yes, checked the simple what not like volume plugs and what not On Sunday 28 March 2004 12:31, Andr? S. wrote: > the volumes are all in max?? > > Em Dom, 2004-03-28 ?s 12:21 -0700, Mike Jensen escreveu: > > Yea it is in the kernel i knew that....but it dosent work and thats what > > i don't understand. I can not hear the test sound and I am unable to get > > oggs to play in xmms...no matter what output plugin i use. I have a > > feeling this is a bug of some kind. > > > > On Sunday 28 March 2004 12:09, Georg E Schneider wrote: > > > Mike Jensen schrieb: > > > >I hope I am not being redundant but I was unable to find anything > > > > about this. When i try to run 'system-config-soundcard' it opens and > > > > i say play test sound and it says 'the snd-emu10k1 driver could not > > > > be loaded. > > > > > > it's perhaps direct in the kernel so system-config-soundcard cannot > > > load the modul. > > > > > > > This > > > >soundcard may not be compatible with Red Hat Linux' in the consol I > > > > get this message: FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel. > > > > > > _already in kernel_ the means it is already loaded and should work ;) > > > > > > > My soundcard is a > > > >soundblaster audigy w/1394....it is a 5.1 pci card...any thoughts on > > > > this one? > > > > > > HTH > > > Georg E Schneider > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Mike Jensen > > jent at spicylemons.com > > cell at spicylemons.com > > irc.acidchat.net > > www.spicylemons.com > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Cheers, Mike Jensen jent at spicylemons.com cell at spicylemons.com irc.acidchat.net www.spicylemons.com From andy at plausible.org Sun Mar 28 19:42:08 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:42:08 -0800 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> <406722F0.4020208@georgs.org> <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> Message-ID: <40672A90.2020808@plausible.org> Mike Jensen wrote: > Yea it is in the kernel i knew that....but it dosent work and thats > what i don't understand. I can not hear the test sound and I am > unable to get oggs to play in xmms...no matter what output plugin i > use. I have a feeling this is a bug of some kind. I have a SBLive which is is working fine under the fc2 module. I did notice that unlike previous distribution versions, the sound configuration wanted to detect and enabled my motherboard audio (VIA KT333) as the default device, however. Previous versions seemed happy to ignore the builtin hardware. I didn't investigate to see if there were any actual issues with having both hardware devices or not; I just disabled it in the BIOS. The old BIOS setting was "auto", which presumably disables it at boot. Is it possible that the kernel is incorrectly re-enabling the hardware on the chipset and confusing the audio drivers? Andy From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Sun Mar 28 19:42:59 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:42:59 -0700 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <40670EA7.6090903@mesias.co.uk> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> <40670EA7.6090903@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <20040328194259.GD32621@ece.arizona.edu> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 06:43:03PM +0100, Cam wrote: > There really is a bug in the system, I'm guessing that the technology in > yum doesn't help the developers to provide the repositories as much as > it helps the users to download from them. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. I definitely agree that there's a problem when the mirror structure changes "out from under you". The role of yum in this is pretty minimal. You put your rpms where you want them, and then you run yum-arch to create the headers (where you want them). If you change the place where the headers live, then things will break unless you ALSO change the baseurl on the clients. There's really no way around that. > I had assumed the repository > was a-changing and a new headers file would be available soon... The joy of running something with "test" in its name, I guess :) > For the record my yum.conf contains a line from the yum-2.0.6-1 > yum.conf.fedora: > Which gives rise to: > [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > > whereas it used to work. Yep. Something definitely got hosed. Whether you prefer to think of it as hosed config or a hosed repository is a matter of perspective. If they match, things work. If they don't match, things don't work. > The only real problems I have seen in yum (as a system) have been: > > * this (repository changes with no redirect. Fix: bitch about it and > find a new headers file), Yep. > * out-of date headers fetched from a mirror but not validated against > the main server (eg. for a while my system would fetch outdated headers > that required openssh which was no longer available). Fix: delete > /var/cache/yum, narrow down the mirrors to the master server and try again. Yep again. There has been a little talk about trying to "harden" both yum and the mirroring process against this. For now, you're pretty much doing the right thing. > * finally, generally inefficient behaviour (downloading headers one by > one instead of having a compressed archive of headers Yes and no. Headers are already compressed. The only advantage there would be doing a single download instead of many. HTTP keepalive helps a lot because you only use one HTTP connection. Also, what you propose would involve actually downloading MORE. Yum doesn't keep headers for rpms you have installed, so you'd need to download a whole bunch of EXTRA headers. Finally, what happens when only a few packages get downloaded? Surely, you don't want to download the whole tarball again. [perhaps you were only talking about the initial setup, though] However, all of this will change in the next major version of yum, since it's moving away from the headers approach and toward the new xml metadata system. > excessive timeouts on individual downloads making yum hang for too > long when the server stops sending The next major version will almost certainly have better timeout control. > downloading stuff even if the user downloaded it > 30 sec ago and had to ctrl-C yum for some reason. Next version will also support REGET for that case. You'll pick up where you left off. > Mostly though, it just works really well :) Glad you like it. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From alan at redhat.com Sun Mar 28 19:49:57 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:49:57 -0500 Subject: Unable to align partition In-Reply-To: <200403281314.19131.czar@czarc.net> References: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> <60123.65.94.88.115.1080485584.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> <20040328172116.GA21846@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403281314.19131.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040328194957.GA3148@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 01:14:19PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > clearly a bug in parted/disk druid as the partition numbers can be (and > > should have been) taken from the table itself. > > Any suggestions on how to get this fixed? ... or at least looked at? The fix for the general case is "if there is a partition table, validate it and if sane believe the geometry of it" From vherva at viasys.com Sun Mar 28 19:50:28 2004 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:50:28 +0300 Subject: Shrinking an LVM root filesystem? In-Reply-To: <406727EA.3040806@rueb.com> References: <406727EA.3040806@rueb.com> Message-ID: <20040328195028.GP20358@viasys.com> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 01:30:50PM -0600, you [Steve Bergman] wrote: > Hi, > > I've built a server and installed FC1. I used LVM for /, /usr, /home, > /var, and swap. /boot is in it's own partition. I fully intend to > upgrade to FC2 when it is released, which is why I am posting here > instead of the FC1 list. > > Not really knowing what I was doing, I sized my / rather larger than I > should have, thinking that I could just shrink it later if I needed to. > > I've since decided that I will probably want to do just that, but if I > understand correctly, I can only shrink unmounted filesystems. I could > reinstall, as I have not gone live with this server yet. Is it possible > to shrink / from rescue mode or something? You could burn a copy of Knoppix (google for it) or some other cd based distro and do the resize from there. -- v -- v at iki.fi From jent at spicylemons.com Sun Mar 28 19:59:57 2004 From: jent at spicylemons.com (Mike Jensen) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:59:57 -0700 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <40672A90.2020808@plausible.org> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> <40672A90.2020808@plausible.org> Message-ID: <200403281259.57153.jent@spicylemons.com> My motherboard has no built in sound, this is quite perplexing to me...i almost wonder if i need to reinstall alsa or something On Sunday 28 March 2004 12:42, Andy Ross wrote: > Mike Jensen wrote: > > Yea it is in the kernel i knew that....but it dosent work and thats > > what i don't understand. I can not hear the test sound and I am > > unable to get oggs to play in xmms...no matter what output plugin i > > use. I have a feeling this is a bug of some kind. > > I have a SBLive which is is working fine under the fc2 module. I did > notice that unlike previous distribution versions, the sound > configuration wanted to detect and enabled my motherboard audio (VIA > KT333) as the default device, however. Previous versions seemed happy > to ignore the builtin hardware. > > I didn't investigate to see if there were any actual issues with > having both hardware devices or not; I just disabled it in the BIOS. > The old BIOS setting was "auto", which presumably disables it at boot. > Is it possible that the kernel is incorrectly re-enabling the hardware > on the chipset and confusing the audio drivers? > > Andy -- Cheers, Mike Jensen jent at spicylemons.com cell at spicylemons.com irc.acidchat.net www.spicylemons.com From georg at georgs.org Sun Mar 28 20:06:15 2004 From: georg at georgs.org (Georg E Schneider) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:06:15 +0200 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> <406722F0.4020208@georgs.org> <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> Message-ID: <40673037.3020707@georgs.org> Mike Jensen schrieb: >Yea it is in the kernel i knew that....but it dosent work and thats what i >don't understand. I can not hear the test sound and I am unable to get oggs >to play in xmms...no matter what output plugin i use. > Of corse you want use xmms, but what is happenig if you you use sox example: play soundfile.ogg or play soundfile.au And are the mixer settings ok ? HTH Georg E Schneider From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Sun Mar 28 20:09:33 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:09:33 +0200 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <200403281204.03758.jent@spicylemons.com> <406722F0.4020208@georgs.org> <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> Message-ID: <20040328220933.061e826b.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:21:24 -0700, Mike Jensen wrote: > Yea it is in the kernel i knew that....but it dosent work and thats what i > don't understand. I can not hear the test sound and I am unable to get oggs > to play in xmms...no matter what output plugin i use. I have a feeling this > is a bug of some kind. Did you turn on the mixers with alsamixer or amixer? They are "mute" by default. -- From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sun Mar 28 20:15:08 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:15:08 -0300 Subject: OT: Thanks and Anaconda crash was Re: Problems with serial ata In-Reply-To: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <4067324C.2020404@margo.bijoux.nom.br> I'm posting this to say thanks for the guys who answered my first message. Sadly , the lockups have destroyed my FC2t1 install , so I'll wait until test 2 is released before reinstalling. After destroying my FC2t1 install , the SATA drive also started to behave badly in windoze... I've downloaded the iso which contains the seagate tool to check their disks and found out that it is really problematic... I'm gonna send the drive to RMA and see if a new drive works.... On the tests I've made , I've noticed that only read access to the disk caused problems. Probably some process on FC was trying to read the disk and triggered the lockups which I mentioned on my first post.. As for the anaconda crash I mentioned on the subject , I tried to use the upgrade option of the setup to repair my install , but I ended with a anaconda crash (full log at http://www.dcc.ufmg.br/~pmacedo/anacdump.txt) . The root filesystem is using XFS , the other filesystems are using ext3 or vfat. I have booted the installer with linux xfs , to enable xfs support.. Should I bugzilla this error? I believe that it may be related with the fact that the HD crashes corrupted the fstab on FC2 (it became corrupted.. I tried to boot on rescue mode and run fsck.xfs , but it didnt find anything..) -- Pedro Macedo From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sun Mar 28 20:17:28 2004 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:17:28 +0100 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <20040328194259.GD32621@ece.arizona.edu> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> <40670EA7.6090903@mesias.co.uk> <20040328194259.GD32621@ece.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <406732D8.1000400@mesias.co.uk> Michael Thanks for your reply. One last comment... >>* finally, generally inefficient behaviour (downloading headers one by >>one instead of having a compressed archive of headers > > > Yes and no. Headers are already compressed. The only advantage there > would be doing a single download instead of many. HTTP keepalive > helps a lot because you only use one HTTP connection. Also, what you > propose would involve actually downloading MORE. Yum doesn't keep > headers for rpms you have installed, so you'd need to download a whole > bunch of EXTRA headers. Finally, what happens when only a few > packages get downloaded? Surely, you don't want to download the whole > tarball again. [perhaps you were only talking about the initial > setup, though] What happens is probably fair on the server but from the client's point of view, if you have to get all the headers when the server is under load you can see pauses between the downloads. If it's using HTTP keeplive then it's probably already doing a fair job under heavy load. > The next major version will almost certainly have better timeout > control. ... > Next version will also support REGET for that case. You'll pick up > where you left off. Sounds good. I wonder, does the download.redhat.com server accept rsync connections from mere mortals? I'm tempted to sync the lot to a local server and update from that :) -Cam From vamsee_k at students.iiit.net Sun Mar 28 20:26:51 2004 From: vamsee_k at students.iiit.net (G. Vamsee Krishna) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 01:56:51 +0530 (IST) Subject: smbfs won't mount Message-ID: Hi, I've just finished installing Fedora Core 2 - Test 1 on my system. The kernel 2.6.1-1.65, is small, fast and sweet. KDE 3.2 rocks. But the problem is, I'm unable to mount smb filesystems from the network. I'm not an expert at kernel hacking/debugging. The error message is something like this: # smbmount //IP/share /mnt/junk -o username=,password= ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel Please refer to the smbmnt(8) manual page smbmnt failed: 255 # modprobe smbfs FATAL: Module smbfs not found. I've had no such problems with Fedora Core 1. Now, how can patch things up so that I can mount shares? regards, vamsee -- Happy Hacking!!! From neuro at seclab.jp Sun Mar 28 20:42:44 2004 From: neuro at seclab.jp (Frederic de Villamil) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:42:44 +0200 Subject: smbfs won't mount In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040328204244.GA52959@jesus.seclab.jp> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, G. Vamsee Krishna wrote: > Hi, > I've just finished installing Fedora Core 2 - Test 1 on my system. > The kernel 2.6.1-1.65, is small, fast and sweet. KDE 3.2 rocks. But the > problem is, I'm unable to mount smb filesystems from the network. I'm not > an expert at kernel hacking/debugging. The error message is something like > this: > > # smbmount //IP/share /mnt/junk -o username=,password= > ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel > Please refer to the smbmnt(8) manual page > smbmnt failed: 255 > > # modprobe smbfs > FATAL: Module smbfs not found. > > I've had no such problems with Fedora Core 1. Now, how can patch things up > so that I can mount shares? Hello, as ntfs and smbfs may create copyright issues, they are not compiled in the kernel by default. You have to compile the samba and NTFS modules from the kernel sources in order to use them. Regards Frederic -- < Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president et pere de famille respectable :s http://www.seclab.jp From ed at fletcher.ca Sun Mar 28 20:40:23 2004 From: ed at fletcher.ca (Ed Fletcher) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:40:23 -0800 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <406732D8.1000400@mesias.co.uk> References: <20040328194259.GD32621@ece.arizona.edu> <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> <40670EA7.6090903@mesias.co.uk> <20040328194259.GD32621@ece.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20040328122453.009f8570@fletcher.ca> I'm wondering if FC2T1 has been taken down deliberately to get ready for Test Two. The schedule seems to show that Test Two will be out tomorrow: http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Is there any way to confirm this? -- Ed Fletcher ed at fletcher.ca "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin At 09:17 PM 3/28/04 +0100, Cam wrote: >Michael > >Thanks for your reply. One last comment... > >>>* finally, generally inefficient behaviour (downloading headers one by >>>one instead of having a compressed archive of headers >> >>Yes and no. Headers are already compressed. The only advantage there >>would be doing a single download instead of many. HTTP keepalive >>helps a lot because you only use one HTTP connection. Also, what you >>propose would involve actually downloading MORE. Yum doesn't keep >>headers for rpms you have installed, so you'd need to download a whole >>bunch of EXTRA headers. Finally, what happens when only a few >>packages get downloaded? Surely, you don't want to download the whole >>tarball again. [perhaps you were only talking about the initial >>setup, though] > >What happens is probably fair on the server but from the client's point of >view, if you have to get all the headers when the server is under load you >can see pauses between the downloads. If it's using HTTP keeplive then >it's probably already doing a fair job under heavy load. > > >>The next major version will almost certainly have better timeout >>control. >... >>Next version will also support REGET for that case. You'll pick up >>where you left off. > >Sounds good. I wonder, does the download.redhat.com server accept rsync >connections from mere mortals? I'm tempted to sync the lot to a local >server and update from that :) From czar at czarc.net Sun Mar 28 20:42:49 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:42:49 -0500 Subject: Unable to align partition In-Reply-To: <20040328194957.GA3148@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> <200403281314.19131.czar@czarc.net> <20040328194957.GA3148@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403281542.49360.czar@czarc.net> On Sunday 28 March 2004 14:49, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 01:14:19PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > > clearly a bug in parted/disk druid as the partition numbers can be (and > > > should have been) taken from the table itself. > > > > Any suggestions on how to get this fixed? ... or at least looked at? > > The fix for the general case is "if there is a partition table, validate > it and if sane believe the geometry of it" Yes, but ... how do I get this fixed (who do I nag or whatever)? There is a bugzilla report on this but with the idea that Fedora wants to push stuff upstream as much as possible, I cannot see nagging the Red Hat developers as being productive (they are busy trying to pull all of the packages together for FC2). Should I contact Andrew Clausen directly? I do believe that this is an important bug to fix. While I have figured out how to work around it using the hdx=cyl,heads,sectors kernel parameter, a lot of users will get real confused if this is exacerbated by a partition table initially created by Win2k or WinXP. -- Gene From jent at spicylemons.com Sun Mar 28 20:46:17 2004 From: jent at spicylemons.com (Mike Jensen) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:46:17 -0700 Subject: unable to load snd-emu10k1 for soundcard in core2 test1 In-Reply-To: <20040328220933.061e826b.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <1080233619.3014.213.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <200403281221.24027.jent@spicylemons.com> <20040328220933.061e826b.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <200403281346.17474.jent@spicylemons.com> Thank you very much....that is odd how they mute on defult....that worked On Sunday 28 March 2004 13:09, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:21:24 -0700, Mike Jensen wrote: > > Yea it is in the kernel i knew that....but it dosent work and thats what > > i don't understand. I can not hear the test sound and I am unable to get > > oggs to play in xmms...no matter what output plugin i use. I have a > > feeling this is a bug of some kind. > > Did you turn on the mixers with alsamixer or amixer? They are "mute" by > default. > > > -- -- Cheers, Mike Jensen jent at spicylemons.com cell at spicylemons.com irc.acidchat.net www.spicylemons.com From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun Mar 28 21:00:35 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:00:35 +0200 Subject: smbfs won't mount In-Reply-To: <20040328204244.GA52959@jesus.seclab.jp> References: <20040328204244.GA52959@jesus.seclab.jp> Message-ID: <40673CF3.6060006@gmx.de> Frederic de Villamil wrote: >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, G. Vamsee Krishna wrote: > > >># smbmount //IP/share /mnt/junk -o username=,password= >>ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel >>Please refer to the smbmnt(8) manual page >>smbmnt failed: 255 >> >># modprobe smbfs >>FATAL: Module smbfs not found. >> >>I've had no such problems with Fedora Core 1. Now, how can patch things up >>so that I can mount shares? >> >> > >Hello, >as ntfs and smbfs may create copyright issues, they are not compiled >in the kernel by default. >You have to compile the samba and NTFS modules from the kernel sources >in order to use them. > > hmmm ? afaik smbfs is not compiled in because cifs is the way to go in the future. without smbfs we are forced to *test* cifs you can compile a custom-kernel, but afaik this was not the intention try instead # mount -t cifs //IP/share /mnt/junk -o ip=ip_adress,username=user,password=password if you should find a bug, go to bugzilla.redhat.com check your share- and ntfs-permissions on your windows-box before you cry if you do not know the differences or how to do this :-(( afaik it could be that in the final fedora core both,cifs and smbfs, are compiled in -- shrek-m From vamsee_k at students.iiit.net Sun Mar 28 21:02:11 2004 From: vamsee_k at students.iiit.net (G. Vamsee Krishna) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 02:32:11 +0530 (IST) Subject: smbfs won't mount In-Reply-To: <40673CF3.6060006@gmx.de> Message-ID: > hmmm ? > > afaik smbfs is not compiled in because cifs is the way to go in the future. > without smbfs we are forced to *test* cifs > you can compile a custom-kernel, but afaik this was not the intention > > try instead > # mount -t cifs //IP/share /mnt/junk -o > ip=ip_adress,username=user,password=password > > if you should find a bug, go to bugzilla.redhat.com > check your share- and ntfs-permissions on your windows-box before you cry > if you do not know the differences or how to do this :-(( > > afaik it could be that in the final fedora core both,cifs and smbfs, are > compiled in thanks a lot :) it's working with cifs option, though I've no clue what I was doing. Thanks a lot again. I was going crazy recompiling my kernel and stuff. regards, vamsee -- Happy Hacking!!! From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 28 21:09:30 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:09:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: smbfs won't mount In-Reply-To: <20040328204244.GA52959@jesus.seclab.jp> References: <20040328204244.GA52959@jesus.seclab.jp> Message-ID: <65007.65.41.50.216.1080508170.squirrel@65.41.50.216> Frederic de Villamil said: > > Hello, > as ntfs and smbfs may create copyright issues, they are not compiled > in the kernel by default. You are way off base. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/msg01713.html -- William Hooper From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun Mar 28 21:13:50 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:13:50 +0200 Subject: Update Question In-Reply-To: References: <0HV900C1ZHN82J@inbound1.hz.gov.cn> <406693DE.30608@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4067400E.9010406@gmx.de> Harry Putnam wrote: >"shrek-m at gmx.de" writes: > >>$ wget -cr ftp://bla.bla >># rpm -Fvh /path/to/rpms_and_for_kernel.arch_glibc.arch >> >> >Will that catch new packages that you don't already have a version of? > $ man rpm rpm {-F|--freshen} [install-options] PACKAGE_FILE ... This will upgrade packages, but only if an earlier version currently exists. The PACKAGE_FILE may be specified as an ftp or http URL, in which case the package will be downloaded before being installed. See FTP/HTTP OPTIONS for information on rpm?s internal ftp and http client support. --aid Add suggested packages to the transaction set when needed. my experiences with --aid was not often good, it works sometimes if you change directly into the directory # rpm -Uvh --aid .rpm -- shrek-m From iainr at zathras.org Sun Mar 28 21:14:39 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:14:39 +0100 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <406732D8.1000400@mesias.co.uk> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> <40670EA7.6090903@mesias.co.uk> <20040328194259.GD32621@ece.arizona.edu> <406732D8.1000400@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <4067403F.1040402@zathras.org> Cam wrote: > > Sounds good. I wonder, does the download.redhat.com server accept > rsync connections from mere mortals? I'm tempted to sync the lot to a > local server and update from that :) some of the mirrors do, I've been rsyncing stuff for home for months, but of course I've lost the headers file as well :) > > > -Cam > > From bartk at clara.co.uk Sun Mar 28 21:17:49 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:17:49 +0100 Subject: smbfs won't mount In-Reply-To: <20040328204244.GA52959@jesus.seclab.jp> References: <20040328204244.GA52959@jesus.seclab.jp> Message-ID: <406740FD.8020100@clara.co.uk> Frederic de Villamil wrote: >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, G. Vamsee Krishna wrote: > > > >>Hi, >> I've just finished installing Fedora Core 2 - Test 1 on my system. >>The kernel 2.6.1-1.65, is small, fast and sweet. KDE 3.2 rocks. But the >>problem is, I'm unable to mount smb filesystems from the network. I'm not >>an expert at kernel hacking/debugging. The error message is something like >>this: >> >># smbmount //IP/share /mnt/junk -o username=,password= >>ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel >>Please refer to the smbmnt(8) manual page >>smbmnt failed: 255 >> >># modprobe smbfs >>FATAL: Module smbfs not found. >> >>I've had no such problems with Fedora Core 1. Now, how can patch things up >>so that I can mount shares? >> >> > >Hello, >as ntfs and smbfs may create copyright issues, they are not compiled >in the kernel by default. >You have to compile the samba and NTFS modules from the kernel sources >in order to use them. > > Bizzare >Regards >Frederic >-- >< Ylli> lol je rigole neuro jte prend pa pr un pervers ms un president >et pere de famille respectable :s >http://www.seclab.jp > > > > anyway smbmnt is disabled in FC2 test kernels and cifs is implemented in order to test it before final release. ( that the short of it for more look through the archives ) command to mount netowork shares via cifs : mount -t cifs -o username=*** //server name/shre /home/user/folder/ or if you prefer U can use preview edition of webmin http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/rpm/webmin-1.139-1.noarch.rpm -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sun Mar 28 21:35:24 2004 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:35:24 +0100 Subject: 2.6 kernel 2.6.4-1.290 reboots on unsuspend In-Reply-To: <4066E310.1020106@mesias.co.uk> References: <4066E310.1020106@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <4067451C.8010803@mesias.co.uk> Followup... > The real problem is that the machine reboots when it comes out of being > suspended. I wondered if anything had changed in the kernels recently > causing this behaviour? I think the original 2.6 kernel from the FC2 > test 1 isos worked normally. I installed the original kernel from FC2 test1 and it worked OK. I have put a bug into bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119279 -Cam From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sun Mar 28 21:42:46 2004 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:42:46 +0100 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <4067403F.1040402@zathras.org> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> <40670EA7.6090903@mesias.co.uk> <20040328194259.GD32621@ece.arizona.edu> <406732D8.1000400@mesias.co.uk> <4067403F.1040402@zathras.org> Message-ID: <406746D6.50502@mesias.co.uk> Iain > some of the mirrors do, I've been rsyncing stuff for home for months, > but of course I've lost the headers file as well :) If you have all the files except the headers... yum-arch? Time I learned python :) -Cam From riobaan at hotmail.com Sun Mar 28 21:59:37 2004 From: riobaan at hotmail.com (Rio Baan) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:59:37 +0000 Subject: Problems with serial ata Message-ID: I have an ASUS P4G8X-Deluxe motherboard (the Pentium model), and I have similar Silicon Image SATA RAID problems. I think this issue is listed in Bugzilla. The BIOS version I have is 1006, and I think it's the latest (have to double check that). Once HDs get connected to the SATA RAID plugs, on first boot, the install doesn't get past the grey Fedora PC screen... it just locks up. Not sure if the bug has been fixed in the latest kernel versions.... but we'll see when test2 comes out I guess. >As I just bought my first serial ata disk , I'm having lockup problems on >my two fedora installations (FC2t1 and FC1). > >The hardware I'm using is a Asus A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard (Silicon sata >chip) , using a seagate disk (not configured as raid). The OS is installed >on a parallel ata disk and has worked for a long time without problems. The >problem happens when I remove "hde=noprobe" from the boot line to detect >the serial ata disk (it is being recognized as hde). >The system locks and no messages appear on /var/log/messages . On the other >O$, it works perfectly... >This locks happen on FC2t1 and on FC1 (both fully updated). The problem >happens with full system load or even if the system is sitting idle... > >Any ideas? I'm gonna make more tests , this time with smartd disabled and >see if I can pinpoint the cause of the problems... > >-- >Pedro Macedo > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Sun Mar 28 22:00:11 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:00:11 -0700 Subject: yum broken; headers directory missing In-Reply-To: <406746D6.50502@mesias.co.uk> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328170609.GB32621@ece.arizona.edu> <40670EA7.6090903@mesias.co.uk> <20040328194259.GD32621@ece.arizona.edu> <406732D8.1000400@mesias.co.uk> <4067403F.1040402@zathras.org> <406746D6.50502@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <20040328220011.GB882@ece.arizona.edu> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 10:42:46PM +0100, Cam wrote: > Iain > > >some of the mirrors do, I've been rsyncing stuff for home for months, > >but of course I've lost the headers file as well :) > > If you have all the files except the headers... yum-arch? > > Time I learned python :) No need to learn python. Simply cd to the directory where you want the header and run "yum-arch". That's pretty much it :) -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From dennis at ausil.us Sun Mar 28 22:02:24 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:02:24 +1000 Subject: yum dead? In-Reply-To: <1080472347.11415.23.camel@T7.linux> References: <1080472347.11415.23.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <200403290802.30689.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Sunday 28 March 2004 9:12 pm, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I can't seem to connect to any of the yum servers for 1.91. Are they > down atm? My yum file is attached. > > TTFN > > Paul Currently i cant resolv alot of names looks like there is dns issues i have tried some domains using different dns servers and no go. Dennis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From balay at fastmail.fm Sun Mar 28 22:10:18 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:10:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: 2.6 kernel 2.6.4-1.290 reboots on unsuspend In-Reply-To: <4067451C.8010803@mesias.co.uk> References: <4066E310.1020106@mesias.co.uk> <4067451C.8010803@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004, Cam wrote: > Followup... > > > The real problem is that the machine reboots when it comes out of being > > suspended. I wondered if anything had changed in the kernels recently > > causing this behaviour? I think the original 2.6 kernel from the FC2 > > test 1 isos worked normally. > > I installed the original kernel from FC2 test1 and it worked OK. I have > put a bug into bugzilla: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119279 Thanks for the bugzilla entry. This was reported earlier in the mailing list - but I haven't seen it fixed yet.. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg00554.html Satish From randysch at comcast.net Sun Mar 28 22:16:30 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:16:30 -0500 Subject: X Windows appears to lock up In-Reply-To: <4066FF2A.5070105@mindspring.com> References: <4066FF2A.5070105@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <40674EBE.9060507@comcast.net> Richard Hally wrote: > I have had a very similar problem when I have the screen saver pick > randomly and it gets to one named "polytopes" it locks up X and my > system completely. Uncheck that one and see if the problem goes away. I've seen that happen on a machine of mine when it picked an OpenGL screensaver, but I didn't have OpenGL drivers loaded for my video card. If "polytopes" is one of those, then you might want to unselect all of the ones that use OpenGL. Is there a list of what uses what? randy From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun Mar 28 22:45:00 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:45:00 +0200 Subject: OT: communication (was Re: yum broken; headers directory missing) In-Reply-To: <20040328174505.GG28260@charlescurley.com> References: <4066F9A7.1050909@plausible.org> <1080491165.31785.36.camel@binkley> <40670100.9000407@plausible.org> <20040328174505.GG28260@charlescurley.com> Message-ID: <4067556C.6090008@gmx.de> Charles Curley wrote: >I am concerned with the precise use of the English language. Think of >language like a network protocol. If you don't use a network protocol >correctly, you don't communicate. > communication must not be succesfully or correctly to be named as communication "Medzinische Psychologie im Grundriss, Verlag fuer Psychologie, 1981" p. 476 Man kann nicht _nicht_ kommunzieren. [..] dass alles Verhalten Kommunikation ist. [...] You can not _not_ communicate. [...] all behaviour is communication. [...] >Similarly, if you don't use English >correctly, you don't communicate. > i personally can not use english correctly :-( my native language is german but i can communicate :-) my incorrectly english communication results often in missunderstandings, but this can even happen in your native language with your friends, parents, ... you are communicating with words, letters, signatures, smileys, behaviour, speech, clothes, ... what luck that we are not only simple network-protocols ;-) back to yum: yum as receiver, the server as sender headers.info "404: not found" yum as sender, you as receiver headers.info "404: not found" yum is communicating succesfully in all directions ! like you mentioned, yum is not the faulty part, this was in this case eventually a faulty script. -- shrtek-m From kevins at pac-software.com Sun Mar 28 23:03:04 2004 From: kevins at pac-software.com (Kevin Sullivan) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:03:04 -0500 Subject: Invisible fonts under GTK apps. Message-ID: <16487.22952.827631.171032@localhost.localdomain> I am currently running yarrow (2.4.22-1.2115.nptl) on a fresh installation. I did not do an upgrade. I have been using apt and freshrpms but I don't think that has anything to do with my problem. It would seem that all of the dialog boxes in GTK applications have invisible fonts(ripperX, audacity). If I highlight the text I can read it but it is not visible otherwise. All other apps seem to work just fine. I am using kde but I also have the problem with gnome. I have played with xfontsel, xset and font handling in kde but no help. Any ideas? Thanks, Kevin Sullivan From czar at czarc.net Sun Mar 28 23:47:43 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:47:43 -0500 Subject: Unable to align partition In-Reply-To: <20040328194957.GA3148@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <64048.65.94.88.115.1080478133.squirrel@internet.centrenad.com> <200403281314.19131.czar@czarc.net> <20040328194957.GA3148@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403281847.43317.czar@czarc.net> On Sunday 28 March 2004 14:49, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 01:14:19PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > > clearly a bug in parted/disk druid as the partition numbers can be (and > > > should have been) taken from the table itself. > > > > Any suggestions on how to get this fixed? ... or at least looked at? > > The fix for the general case is "if there is a partition table, validate > it and if sane believe the geometry of it" OK, I did some research (searching the kernel archives for references to parted as well as looking at the bug-parted mailing list archives). The kernel list archives have a later 2003 discussion of the problem (lots of works including by Andrew Clausen) but no conclusion ... or perhaps the conclusion is that each side thinks it is the other side's responsibility. I do not really care if either LBA or chs partition table parameters are used so long as: 1. It works. 2. It does not screw up existing partition table definitions. It is not clear to me that the this is the current situation! If something is not done to fix this then something needs to be put into RELEASE-NOTES telling users about the hdx=c,h,s kernel boot parameter with c,h,s being LBA values (all problems that I have seen are where the disk is partition with LBA values but then are interpreted as physical c,h,s values with the 2.6 kernel plus parted. I also found some reference to an LBA flag described in the parted "manual" (see the "set" command) but have not idea where this is stored or how (or if) this information is used. -- Gene From tmolina at cablespeed.com Mon Mar 29 01:17:25 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:17:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: X Windows appears to lock up In-Reply-To: <20040328154011.GE15672@lichen.truemesh.com> References: <20040328154011.GE15672@lichen.truemesh.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004, Paul Nasrat wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 10:31:53AM -0500, Thomas Molina wrote: > > I've got this problem where the X Windows system appears to malfunction > > after some indeterminite time under Fedora Core 2 test 1. Unless I am > > doing something wrong it probably needs putting in bugzilla, but my > > observations to this point are rather amorphous so I will describe it and > > solicit suggestions on how to proceed for further data gathering I can put > > into bugzilla. > > This is already in bugzilla (probably bug subject should be changed) > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118697 (plus a dupe or two) > > I suggest you test to see if it's the same ie if running glxinfo causes > immediate symptoms. If so I suggest you add details to that bug. It appears to be the same bug. Interestingly when I first ran the glxinfo command in a terminal window where I had su'd to root I didn't get the crash, but did when I issued the command as a regular user. I have since been unable to duplicate that, however, so it was probably a fluke of some kind. I have added my comments and log to the existing bug. Thanks for the pointer. From sulli219 at chartermi.net Mon Mar 29 01:40:12 2004 From: sulli219 at chartermi.net (William Sullivan) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:40:12 -0500 Subject: GPG Keys Message-ID: <40677E7C.4020601@chartermi.net> Where can I find a collection of gpg keys for FC2 T1, I am using apt with Indiana and California mirrors. I remember running accrossed a site with a lot of GPG keys a week or so ago but I don't remember how I found it or what site it was. Thanks From aoliva at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 01:47:00 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 28 Mar 2004 22:47:00 -0300 Subject: Shrinking an LVM root filesystem? In-Reply-To: <406727EA.3040806@rueb.com> References: <406727EA.3040806@rueb.com> Message-ID: On Mar 28, 2004, Steve Bergman wrote: > I could reinstall, as I have not gone live with this server yet. Is > it possible to shrink / from rescue mode or something? Yup. Boot into rescue mode, the make sure the sysimage root is not mounted and then resize2fs && lvm resize. Since you're presumably talking about FC2test, not FC1, you may have to lvm vgcfgbackup && lvm vgcfgrestore to get the free PE count in the PV fixed (bug 112089, fixed in LVM2 CVS but not yet in rawhide). > Also, can I grow and shrink any filesystem I desire, anywhere in the > LVG no matter what the order in which I defined them? i.e. is any > free space in the LVG available to any filesystem in it? Yup, that's the beauty of LVM. > Oh, and while I'm asking questions, what is the status of ext2online > and Fedora. Last I tried, it didn't work. No harm done, the syscall just failed. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Mar 29 02:42:15 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 04:42:15 +0200 Subject: GPG Keys In-Reply-To: <40677E7C.4020601@chartermi.net> References: <40677E7C.4020601@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <1080528135.18162.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 29/03/2004 ? 03:40, William Sullivan a ?crit : > Where can I find a collection of gpg keys for FC2 T1, I am using apt > with Indiana and California mirrors. I remember running accrossed a > site with a lot of GPG keys a week or so ago but I don't remember how I > found it or what site it was. Thanks > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.90/i386/os/ From bstretch at mindspring.com Mon Mar 29 02:55:52 2004 From: bstretch at mindspring.com (Brian Stretch) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:55:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: HP zv5000z AMD64 Development Install fails Message-ID: <31225781.1080528952249.JavaMail.root@wamui09.slb.atl.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- From: "Lewt @ Linux Warcry" Brian Stretch wrote: >> I was able to get FC1 AMD64 to install on this HP zv5000z Athlon 64 >> nForce3 chipset notebook, but it locked up on reboot with the capslock >> light blinking, possibly didn't read the GeForce 440 Go vidcard right? >> The lockup was right about the time it ought to switch to X. I did a >> graphical install, no need for textmode, though the screen did go >> out-of-sync for a few seconds at the tail end of the shutdown-to-reboot. >> >> The AMD64 devel tree from today and yesterday didn't get very >> far. I tried a NFS install from a local mirror of the duke mirror. Fedora >> says "no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems" >> after I select manual partitioning with Disk Druid. Then it reboots. >> I tried acpi=off selinux=0 just for laughs, no diff. Anyone have any >> ideas before I bugzilla this? >> >> It can't detect the "mouse" either, which is an ALPS keypad, and I >> didn't see an option to manually select it like I could with FC1. > > try running acpi=off in your grub.. Found it! HP hasn't patched K8 Errata #93 in their BIOS yet. Adding idle=poll is the workaround. http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-amd64/2003-Dec/0031.html Also, video goes out of sync after X shuts down and FC1 drops to text mode for the remainder of the shutdown sequence. It's back in sync when the machine boots again. That gets FC1 up and running, but the development tree is still no-go. Anyone? From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Mon Mar 29 04:03:52 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:03:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: GPG Keys In-Reply-To: <40677E7C.4020601@chartermi.net> References: <40677E7C.4020601@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <64732.65.41.50.216.1080533032.squirrel@65.41.50.216> William Sullivan said: > Where can I find a collection of gpg keys for FC2 T1, I am using apt > with Indiana and California mirrors. I remember running accrossed a > site with a lot of GPG keys a week or so ago but I don't remember how I > found it or what site it was. Thanks All Fedora Core GPG keys are at: http://fedora.redhat.com/about/security/ -- William Hooper From smearp at mac.com Mon Mar 29 04:34:14 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:34:14 -0800 Subject: GPG Keys In-Reply-To: <40677E7C.4020601@chartermi.net> References: <40677E7C.4020601@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <556420AE-813A-11D8-89DB-000393C34F68@mac.com> From * fedora.us: rpm --import http://www.fedora.us/FEDORA-GPG-KEY * rpm.livna.org: rpm --import http://rpm.livna.org/RPM-LIVNA-GPG-KEY * FreshRPMs: rpm --import http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt * DAG: rpm --import http://dag.wieers.com/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.dag.txt * ATrpms: rpm --import http://atrpms.physik.fu-berlin.de/RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms * NewRPMs: rpm --import http://newrpms.sunsite.dk/gpg-pubkey-newrpms.txt * JPackage: rpm --import http://www.jpackage.org/jpackage.asc If you've never used up2date, you will also need to do: rpm --import /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-1/RPM-GPG-KEY* to get the standard Red Hat keys installed. HTH, -Sean On Mar 28, 2004, at 5:40 PM, William Sullivan wrote: > Where can I find a collection of gpg keys for FC2 T1, I am using apt > with Indiana and California mirrors. I remember running accrossed a > site with a lot of GPG keys a week or so ago but I don't remember how > I found it or what site it was. Thanks GPG public key: From steve at rueb.com Mon Mar 29 05:35:12 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:35:12 -0600 Subject: Spatial Nautilus Message-ID: <4067B590.70807@rueb.com> I've been using rawhide since a little before FC2-test1. And I must say that I am more than a bit taken aback by the new nautilus default mode. I'm a KDE fan from before their 1.0 release, and it took a long while for Gnome to win me over. But it did eventually, and what won me over was its adherence to the HIG, and the beautiful simplicity of Bluecurve Gnome. i.e. I'm not one of those people who bemoaned the replacement of sawfish with metacity, and I like the "less is more" philosophy of the current Gnome series. Gnome has done a lot of things right. So I can't help but feel that I am missing the boat when it comes to spatial mode nautilus. On the plus side, I can see that it certainly has a cleaner look. And that's it. On the minus side, it wants to open a window for every mouse click, navigation is cumbersome, finding what options you do have is a hunt and peck afair. I realize that if you know to "right click-> browse folder" or "nautilus -browser", you can get the old behavior back, but what I don't understand is why spatial is the default. How does spatial mode as the default benefit the new user? To me, this seems to be a case of cutting out too much of the interface. I realize that this may really be a question for another list, but as the Fedora project could decide to change the default, it seems an appropriate thing to ask in this forum. I almost feel that I should be posting this to bugzilla instead of here. What are the advantages of spatial that I am not seeing? Thanks, Steve Bergman From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon Mar 29 06:03:21 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 01:03:21 -0500 Subject: console beep missing In-Reply-To: <20040328184530.GC28426@rednote.net> References: <200403270205.i2R25lp08347@rgmgw6.us.oracle.com> <20040327210622.GF4451@rednote.net> <1080421940.1680.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040328184530.GC28426@rednote.net> Message-ID: <20040329060321.GA2493@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 01:45:31PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > I can think of several workarounds. Point is, though, that it belongs in > /etc/modprobe.conf. And, the proper incantation should be documented in > the kernel source tree. As far as I know, modprobe.conf/modules.conf doesn't have any way of forcing a given module to load at boot time. It just gives options for modules whenever they happen to load. If nothing is telling the kernel that it needs to load the pc speaker module, modprobe.conf doesn't come into it.... -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From asenci at uol.com.br Mon Mar 29 06:47:01 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 03:47:01 -0300 Subject: Spatial Nautilus In-Reply-To: <4067B590.70807@rueb.com> References: <4067B590.70807@rueb.com> Message-ID: <1080542821.9751.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> I once saw a screenshot of the gnome 2.5 and there were more icons on the Computer folder. There were icons for cdrom and floppy devices. What happened to then on fedora? What about the acme integration on the keyboard shortcuts? Last question: Why there isn't a option on the file-manager options to choose the default behavior? Steve, you forgot one on the plus side: much faster... ;D Em Dom, 2004-03-28 ?s 23:35 -0600, Steve Bergman escreveu: > I've been using rawhide since a little before FC2-test1. And I must say > that I am more than a bit taken aback by the new nautilus default mode. > > I'm a KDE fan from before their 1.0 release, and it took a long while > for Gnome to win me over. But it did eventually, and what won me over > was its adherence to the HIG, and the beautiful simplicity of Bluecurve > Gnome. i.e. I'm not one of those people who bemoaned the replacement of > sawfish with metacity, and I like the "less is more" philosophy of the > current Gnome series. Gnome has done a lot of things right. > > So I can't help but feel that I am missing the boat when it comes to > spatial mode nautilus. On the plus side, I can see that it certainly > has a cleaner look. And that's it. > > On the minus side, it wants to open a window for every mouse click, > navigation is cumbersome, finding what options you do have is a hunt and > peck afair. I realize that if you know to "right click-> browse folder" > or "nautilus -browser", you can get the old behavior back, but what I > don't understand is why spatial is the default. How does spatial mode > as the default benefit the new user? To me, this seems to be a case of > cutting out too much of the interface. > > I realize that this may really be a question for another list, but as > the Fedora project could decide to change the default, it seems an > appropriate thing to ask in this forum. I almost feel that I should be > posting this to bugzilla instead of here. > > What are the advantages of spatial that I am not seeing? > > Thanks, > Steve Bergman > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Mon Mar 29 07:15:07 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:15:07 +0200 Subject: Spatial Nautilus In-Reply-To: <4067B590.70807@rueb.com> References: <4067B590.70807@rueb.com> Message-ID: <1080544507.10329.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 07:35, Steve Bergman wrote: > I've been using rawhide since a little before FC2-test1. And I must say > that I am more than a bit taken aback by the new nautilus default mode. > > I'm a KDE fan from before their 1.0 release, and it took a long while > for Gnome to win me over. But it did eventually, and what won me over > was its adherence to the HIG, and the beautiful simplicity of Bluecurve > Gnome. i.e. I'm not one of those people who bemoaned the replacement of > sawfish with metacity, and I like the "less is more" philosophy of the > current Gnome series. Gnome has done a lot of things right. > > So I can't help but feel that I am missing the boat when it comes to > spatial mode nautilus. On the plus side, I can see that it certainly > has a cleaner look. And that's it. > > On the minus side, it wants to open a window for every mouse click, > navigation is cumbersome, finding what options you do have is a hunt and > peck afair. I realize that if you know to "right click-> browse folder" > or "nautilus -browser", you can get the old behavior back, but what I > don't understand is why spatial is the default. How does spatial mode > as the default benefit the new user? To me, this seems to be a case of > cutting out too much of the interface. > > I realize that this may really be a question for another list, but as > the Fedora project could decide to change the default, it seems an > appropriate thing to ask in this forum. I almost feel that I should be > posting this to bugzilla instead of here. > > What are the advantages of spatial that I am not seeing? > Nothing has been cut out. You can get the old behavior back by setting a gconf key to always browse. That way you will have the old behavior. Now, for the second part. There are advantages to spatial, if you are willing to use that mode the way it is intended to be used. The most important is that it remembers the states of all you windows, and therefore enables you to set up browse states for each directory by simply changing the views and dragging the edges to make it a certain size, and put it in a certain position. so, directories viewed in nautilus are treated as objects with properties which the user sets. Now, after a while, when a user gets used to using his desktop, he will remember the positions of all the directories he works with. That is the short version of it. Also, a little trick, if you have a middle mouse button (who doesn't have one these days :) ), double middle click opens a new window and kills the parent window immediately. So you never have extra windows open, or you can always kill parent windows once you get to the directory you wanted to browse to. From stephen at skmoore.com Mon Mar 29 09:54:14 2004 From: stephen at skmoore.com (Stephen Moore) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:54:14 +1000 Subject: esd /alsa problem Message-ID: <4067F246.8050005@skmoore.com> I can only load esd as root. When I try to load esd as a user I get "audio_alsa: no cards found!". When I run as root, esd starts fine. I presume that this some sort of permissions problem. This is not a alsa mute problem (I think). Cheers From goodguy at goodguy.spb.ru Mon Mar 29 10:18:04 2004 From: goodguy at goodguy.spb.ru (Valery Suhomlinov) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:18:04 +0300 Subject: SSH and charset Message-ID: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> Hi, everyone, I'm using ru_RU.UTF8 locale on my machine and when I'm trying to connect through ssh to other server with ru_RU.CP1251 locale I'm unabled to see russian characters in the console. When I ran unicode_stop before this, I can see messed characters from other character table. Is where any possibility to tell ssh to convert between CP1251 and UTF8 in such connections? P.S. Sorry for my english. -- Best regards. Valery Suhomlinov ... Better tried by twelve than carried by six. -- Jeff Cooper Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From alan at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 10:19:10 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 05:19:10 -0500 Subject: SSH and charset In-Reply-To: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> References: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> Message-ID: <20040329101910.GA3489@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:18:04PM +0300, Valery Suhomlinov wrote: > through ssh to other server with ru_RU.CP1251 locale I'm unabled to see > russian characters in the console. When I ran unicode_stop before this, I can > see messed characters from other character table. Is where any possibility to > tell ssh to convert between CP1251 and UTF8 in such connections? ssh has no real knowledge of encoding. Gnome-terminal however can be told to display in a particular locale so you can tell it to handle the contents in CP1251 > P.S. Sorry for my english. Your English is fine From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Mar 29 10:31:51 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:31:51 +0200 Subject: fedora-mobile ? Message-ID: <4067FB17.4060305@gmx.de> hi, does exist a similar fedora project ? http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/mandrakemove/ http://www.mandrakelinux.com/de/mandrakemove/ http://www.mandrakelinux.com/fr/mandrakemove/ ... eg fedora-mobile ? i have always the same problems with unsatisfied windows-user i boot www.Knoppix.de www.knoppix.com as demonstration on their systems and they are impressed but i am not familiar with debian :( i could boot mandrake-move on their systems, but i do not prefer mandrake :( i would prefer eg. fedora-mobile with mp3,ntfs, ... -support but this does not seem to exist :-( i do not have the experiences to start such a project, invest time for testing would be ok for me. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119308 -- shrek-m From pauln at truemesh.com Mon Mar 29 10:30:19 2004 From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:30:19 +0000 Subject: fedora-mobile ? In-Reply-To: <4067FB17.4060305@gmx.de> References: <4067FB17.4060305@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20040329103018.GF15672@lichen.truemesh.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 12:31:51PM +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > hi, > > does exist a similar fedora project ? There was a FedoraLive announced some time ago seems to be rpm-livelinuxcd now: http://www.linux4all.de/index.php Paul From distro.watch at msa.hinet.net Mon Mar 29 10:57:29 2004 From: distro.watch at msa.hinet.net (Ladislav Bodnar) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:57:29 +0800 Subject: fedora-mobile ? In-Reply-To: <4067FB17.4060305@gmx.de> References: <4067FB17.4060305@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200403291857.29853.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> On Monday 29 March 2004 18:31, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > does exist a similar fedora project ? For a RH/FC-based live CD suitable as a demonstration tool you could consider ADIOS, Aurox Live or Cool Linux: http://www.distrowatch.com/01472 http://www.distrowatch.com/01406 http://www.distrowatch.com/00965 There are others, but they are more like rescue tools or designed for a specific tasks or market: Berry Linux (in Japanese): http://www.distrowatch.com/berry Hakin9 (security tool kit): http://www.distrowatch.com/hakin9 PHP Solutions Live (with Apache and PHP5): http://www.distrowatch.com/phpsol Plan-B (all purpose rescue CD): http://www.distrowatch.com/planb RPM-Live (server-oriented, outdated): http://www.distrowatch.com/rpmlive I think that's about it. Have fun! From mikko at ipi.fi Mon Mar 29 11:41:11 2004 From: mikko at ipi.fi (Mikko Paananen) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:41:11 +0300 Subject: SSH and charset In-Reply-To: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> References: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> Message-ID: <1080560469.8649.1158.camel@localhost.localdomain> ma, 2004-03-29 kello 13:18, Valery Suhomlinov kirjoitti: > Hi, everyone, > > I'm using ru_RU.UTF8 locale on my machine and when I'm trying to connect > through ssh to other server with ru_RU.CP1251 locale I'm unabled to see > russian characters in the console. When I ran unicode_stop before this, I can > see messed characters from other character table. Is where any possibility to > tell ssh to convert between CP1251 and UTF8 in such connections? luit -encoding CP1251 ssh whatever or, run your ssh session under screen and set encoding to cp1251: Ctrl-A :encoding cp1251 From goodguy at goodguy.spb.ru Mon Mar 29 11:56:41 2004 From: goodguy at goodguy.spb.ru (Valery Suhomlinov) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:56:41 +0400 Subject: SSH and charset In-Reply-To: <1080560469.8649.1158.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> <1080560469.8649.1158.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200403291556.41103.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> ? ????????? ?? 29 ???? 2004 15:41 Mikko Paananen ???????(a): > luit -encoding CP1251 ssh That's it! Thx a lot! :) -- Best regards. Valery Suhomlinov ... "The Schizophrenic: An Unauthorized Autobiography" From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 12:03:52 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 02:03:52 -1000 Subject: fedora.us FC2 test2 1.91 repository status Message-ID: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraMirrorList 1.91 has been added to the fedora.us repository mirrors. Please DO NOT USE THE MAIN MIRROR, choose a nearer mirror from the list above. The current 1.90 tree will disappear REAL SOON NOW so update your apt/yum configurations. fedora.us apt and yum for 1.91 is not yet ready, so for now you will need to copy the old 1.90 version and edit the configs. It still seems to be binary compatible for now. However we have no idea if apt will work with selinux enforcement enabled. The "yum" directory tree within the 1.91 directory has been removed entirely and instead yum headers are being generated within each RPMS directory. Be warned that upgrading from FC2 test1 to test2 using apt/yum will not result in a system fully representative of test2 due to selinux not being enabled and filesystem not labeled. You should either use the test2 Anaconda installer or figure out the manual labeling procedure (where is the URL for that?). Warren From romanenko.igor at kyivstar.net Mon Mar 29 12:17:33 2004 From: romanenko.igor at kyivstar.net (Igor Romanenko) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:17:33 +0300 Subject: SSH and charset In-Reply-To: <200403291556.41103.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> References: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> <1080560469.8649.1158.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200403291556.41103.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> Message-ID: <200403291517.33662.romanenko.igor@kyivstar.net> > That's it! Thx a lot! :) And consider switching to ru_RU.KOI8-R anyway. It will not solve your problem with Windows encoding, but KOI8-R support for console applications is commonly considered more stable. Just my five cents... > > -- > Best regards. > Valery Suhomlinov > ... > "The Schizophrenic: An Unauthorized Autobiography" -- Igor Romanenko @..@ Office: romanenko.igor at kyivstar.net, +380-67-4656002 (----) Home: igor at frog.kiev.ua ( | | ) "On the Internet nobody knows you are a Frog" " " From list at inksystems.net Mon Mar 29 12:26:32 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor N. Kolomiyets) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:26:32 +0100 Subject: SSH and charset In-Reply-To: <200403291517.33662.romanenko.igor@kyivstar.net> References: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> <1080560469.8649.1158.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200403291556.41103.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> <200403291517.33662.romanenko.igor@kyivstar.net> Message-ID: <406815F8.3020203@inksystems.net> I had previously issues with ru_RU.UTF-8 on FC1. But they seem to be fixed in FC2. At least no new glitches so far. Igor Romanenko wrote: >>That's it! Thx a lot! :) > > > And consider switching to ru_RU.KOI8-R anyway. It will not solve your problem > with Windows encoding, but KOI8-R support for console applications is commonly > considered more stable. > > Just my five cents... > > >>-- >>Best regards. >>Valery Suhomlinov >>... >>"The Schizophrenic: An Unauthorized Autobiography" > > From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon Mar 29 12:30:55 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:30:55 -0500 Subject: fedora.us FC2 test2 1.91 repository status In-Reply-To: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> References: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> Message-ID: <406816FF.8090702@insight.rr.com> Warren Togami wrote: > http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraMirrorList > > 1.91 has been added to the fedora.us repository mirrors. Please DO NOT >.... > Be warned that upgrading from FC2 test1 to test2 using apt/yum will not > result in a system fully representative of test2 due to selinux not > being enabled and filesystem not labeled. You should either use the > test2 Anaconda installer or figure out the manual labeling procedure > (where is the URL for that?). Posted on the SELinux list was this link for SELinux FAQs http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ Jim > > Warren > > -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. From hunter at userfriendly.net Mon Mar 29 12:36:24 2004 From: hunter at userfriendly.net (Michael Weiner) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:36:24 -0500 Subject: fedora.us FC2 test2 1.91 repository status In-Reply-To: <406816FF.8090702@insight.rr.com> References: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> <406816FF.8090702@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1080563782.19085.5.camel@nomad.userfriendly.net> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 07:30, Jim Cornette wrote: > Warren Togami wrote: > > http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraMirrorList > > > > 1.91 has been added to the fedora.us repository mirrors. Please DO NOT will ISOs be available as well soon? Couldnt find them unless i am just blind due to lack of caffeine. Michael Weiner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From marshall at novafoundry.com Mon Mar 29 12:54:03 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:54:03 -0500 Subject: Problems with serial ata In-Reply-To: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40662CB3.9040206@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <1080564843.30681.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> I had similar problems on my MSI motherboard (via sata controller). I added acpi=off to the kernel params, and now it works fine... There was a brief period (earlier kernels) where I also had to use the pci=biosirq option in order to get the controller to work. I have no idea if adding the options will help you or not, but it's probably worth a try : ) -- Marshall On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 20:38, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > As I just bought my first serial ata disk , I'm having lockup problems > on my two fedora installations (FC2t1 and FC1). > > The hardware I'm using is a Asus A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard (Silicon sata > chip) , using a seagate disk (not configured as raid). The OS is > installed on a parallel ata disk and has worked for a long time without > problems. The problem happens when I remove "hde=noprobe" from the boot > line to detect the serial ata disk (it is being recognized as hde). > The system locks and no messages appear on /var/log/messages . On the > other O$, it works perfectly... > This locks happen on FC2t1 and on FC1 (both fully updated). The problem > happens with full system load or even if the system is sitting idle... > > Any ideas? I'm gonna make more tests , this time with smartd disabled > and see if I can pinpoint the cause of the problems... > > -- > Pedro Macedo > From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Mon Mar 29 13:18:26 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:18:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: fedora.us FC2 test2 1.91 repository status Message-ID: >Be warned that upgrading from FC2 test1 to test2 using apt/yum will not >result in a system fully representative of test2 due to selinux not being >enabled and filesystem not labeled. You should either use the test2 >Anaconda installer or figure out the manual labeling procedure (where is >the URL for that?). The instructions are in the release notes, and also at http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ Michael Young From bartk at clara.co.uk Mon Mar 29 13:25:07 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:25:07 +0100 Subject: fedora.us FC2 test2 1.91 repository status In-Reply-To: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> References: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> Message-ID: <406823B3.5070506@clara.co.uk> Warren Togami wrote: > http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraMirrorList > > 1.91 has been added to the fedora.us repository mirrors. Please DO > NOT USE THE MAIN MIRROR, choose a nearer mirror from the list above. > The current 1.90 tree will disappear REAL SOON NOW so update your > apt/yum configurations. > > fedora.us apt and yum for 1.91 is not yet ready, so for now you will > need to copy the old 1.90 version and edit the configs. It still > seems to be binary compatible for now. However we have no idea if apt > will work with selinux enforcement enabled. > > The "yum" directory tree within the 1.91 directory has been removed > entirely and instead yum headers are being generated within each RPMS > directory. > > Be warned that upgrading from FC2 test1 to test2 using apt/yum will > not result in a system fully representative of test2 due to selinux > not being enabled and filesystem not labeled. You should either use > the test2 Anaconda installer or figure out the manual labeling > procedure (where is the URL for that?). > > Warren > > Any chance of a torrent for ISO's ? as per usual :) -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 29 13:26:13 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:26:13 -0500 Subject: fedora.us FC2 test2 1.91 repository status In-Reply-To: <406823B3.5070506@clara.co.uk> References: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> <406823B3.5070506@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <1080566773.12340.30.camel@binkley> > > > Any chance of a torrent for ISO's ? > > as per usual :) > yes. They will be here. http://torrent.linux.duke.edu -sv From notting at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 15:24:14 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:24:14 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 2 available for x86 and x86-64 Message-ID: <20040329152414.GA16647@devserv.devel.redhat.com> One bug, two bugs, tar bugs, su bugs, grep bugs, mew bugs, old bugs, new bugs. This bug has a little hack, This bug has a broken stack. Say! What a lot of bugs to track. Yes, some are in tar, and some in su. Some are old. And some are new. Some in sed, and some in jed. And some are even in parted. Why are they in parted, jed and sed? I do not know. Bugs should be dead! Some in jpeg, and some in TIFF This TIFF one has an attached diff. >From there to here, from here to there Test release bugs are everywhere. Fedora Core test 2 is available for x86 and x86-64 It should not be installed where production is hot; use it only for test, as we say quite a lot. If you install with the default SELinux will be the result SELinux is a form of MAC For more answers, check the FAQ [*] By explicitly stating what apps can use Unwanted accesses it will refuse [*] http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ So please test test2 in this mode; and please test it with your code. Plus it comes with a new GNOME; can you test that in your home? Also X.org is new, replacing XFree, test it too. And 3.2.1 of KDE We need to test, test, test, you see! So we will test it on our box. And we will even test out sox. And we will test it in our house. And we will test it with our mouse. And we will test it here and there. Say! We will test it ANYWHERE! Problems with Fedora Core 2 test 2 should be reported via bugzilla, at: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/ Please report bugs against 'Fedora Core', release 'test2'. For more information on just what the Fedora Project and Fedora Core is, please see: http://fedora.redhat.com/ For discussion of Fedora Core 2, Test 2, send mail to: fedora-test-list at redhat.com with subscribe in the subject line. You can leave the body empty. Or see: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list/ As always, you can get Fedora Core test releases at redhat.com, specifically: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ and at the following mirrors: * North America * USA East * http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core/test/1.91/ * ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * http://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * http://redhat.secsup.org/fedora/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://redhat.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/fedora/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/test/1.91/ * http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/test/1.91/ * ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/test/1.91/ * http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech/edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/test/1.91/ * rsync://rsync.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/fedora-linux-core/test/1.91/ * http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * rsync://mirror.hiwaay.net/fedora-linux-core/test/1.91 * USA West * ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/1.91/ * ftp://linux.stanford.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * Canada * ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * http://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * rsync://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * South America * Chile * ftp://ftp.tecnoera.com/Linux/fedora/test/1.91/ * Europe * Czech Republic * http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/test/1.91/ * ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/test/1.91/ * rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora/fedora/test/1.91/ * ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * rsync://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * Denmark * ftp://klid.dk/pub/fedora/core/test/1.91/ * Finland * ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * Germany * http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/1.91/ * ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/1.91/ * ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/pub/linux/Mirror/ftp.redhat.com/fedora/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/linux/core/test/1.91/ * Netherlands * ftp://ftp.quicknet.nl/pub/Linux/download.fedora.redhat.com/test/1.91/ * ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/fedora/core/test/1.91/ * Norway * ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/linux/Fedora/core/test/1.91/ * Portugal * ftp://tux.cprm.net/pub/ftp.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * Poland * ftp://ftp.wsisiz.edu.pl/mirror/download.fedora.redhat.com/test/1.91/ * Romania * http://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ * ftp://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/ More mirrors will come online in the near future; check: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html for a list of mirrors that carry Fedora Core. One additional feature provided by the Linux community is the availability of Fedora Core releases via BitTorrent. http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC2-test2-binary-i386.torrent http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC2-test2-binary-x86_64.torrent See http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ for other forms, including SRPMS and the DVD iso. RPMS for Red Hat Linux 7.3 through 9 and Fedora Core 1 of BitTorrent are available from: http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/btrpms/ Usage is simple: btdownloadcurses.py --url http://URL.torrent Allow incoming TCP 6881 - 6889 to join the torrent swarm. From mike at netlyncs.com Mon Mar 29 15:35:10 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:35:10 -0600 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 2 available for x86 and x86-64 In-Reply-To: <20040329152414.GA16647@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040329152414.GA16647@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1080574509.14145.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 09:24, Bill Nottingham wrote: > One bug, two bugs, tar bugs, su bugs, > grep bugs, mew bugs, old bugs, new bugs. > > This bug has a little hack, > This bug has a broken stack. > Say! What a lot of bugs to track. > > Yes, some are in tar, and some in su. > Some are old. And some are new. > > Some in sed, and some in jed. > And some are even in parted. > Why are they in parted, jed and sed? > I do not know. Bugs should be dead! > > Some in jpeg, and some in TIFF > This TIFF one has an attached diff. > > >From there to here, from here to there > Test release bugs are everywhere. > > Fedora Core test 2 is available for > x86 and x86-64 > It should not be installed where production is hot; > use it only for test, as we say quite a lot. > > If you install with the default > SELinux will be the result > SELinux is a form of MAC > For more answers, check the FAQ [*] > By explicitly stating what apps can use > Unwanted accesses it will refuse > > [*] http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ > > So please test test2 in this mode; > and please test it with your code. > Plus it comes with a new GNOME; > can you test that in your home? > Also X.org is new, > replacing XFree, test it too. > And 3.2.1 of KDE > We need to test, test, test, you see! > So we will test it on our box. > And we will even test out sox. > And we will test it in our house. > And we will test it with our mouse. > And we will test it here and there. > Say! We will test it ANYWHERE! Bill, you are NOT right!! LOL Well, even if you aren't the one who came up with this, you still sent it (and the one who did, your not right either hahahahaha)! -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Mon Mar 29 15:36:00 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:36:00 -0500 Subject: FC2 test 2. Message-ID: Okay is Test 2 out? I'm trying my best to update my test 1 to Xorg using the script so graciously provided by members of this list. But I'm getting an error not able to find a suitable mirror. I am now seeing various mentions of 1.91 on the man Fedora page when you open Mozilla on Test 1, as well as when running the script to update to XOrg. Is it just a traffic issue or has test2 been delayed? -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From sehh at altered.com Mon Mar 29 15:51:14 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:51:14 +0100 Subject: FC2 test 2. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040329165114.311b4636@ekolaptis.> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:36:00 -0500 "Mark Haney" wrote: > Okay is Test 2 out? I'm trying my best to update my test 1 to Xorg using > the script so graciously provided by members of this list. But I'm > getting an error not able to find a suitable mirror. I am now seeing > various mentions of 1.91 on the man Fedora page when you open Mozilla on > Test 1, as well as when running the script to update to XOrg. Is it just > a traffic issue or has test2 been delayed? test 2 just became available from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/ mirror sites are still updating their own files... From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Mar 29 15:55:42 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:55:42 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 2 available for x86 and x86-64 In-Reply-To: <1080574509.14145.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <20040329152414.GA16647@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080574509.14145.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <200403291055.44302.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 x86-64 is for athlon-64, right? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAaEb+MDqogpR5tkMRAivNAJ9N/1lbqgvEi05q1IjHM32CJPa1zwCggxPS cyvzOVmfGj3emDgQrwNwC18= =WK+x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Mon Mar 29 15:54:23 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:54:23 -0500 Subject: [SPAM] - Re: FC2 test 2. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body. In-Reply-To: <20040329165114.311b4636@ekolaptis.> References: <20040329165114.311b4636@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: Yeah I know. It figures it would be available right about the time I spam everyone asking about it. On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:51:14 +0100, Dimitrios wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:36:00 -0500 "Mark Haney" > wrote: > >> Okay is Test 2 out? I'm trying my best to update my test 1 to Xorg >> using >> the script so graciously provided by members of this list. But I'm >> getting an error not able to find a suitable mirror. I am now seeing >> various mentions of 1.91 on the man Fedora page when you open Mozilla on >> Test 1, as well as when running the script to update to XOrg. Is it >> just >> a traffic issue or has test2 been delayed? > > test 2 just became available from: > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/ > > mirror sites are still updating their own files... > > -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 29 15:56:37 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 29 Mar 2004 10:56:37 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 2 available for x86 and x86-64 In-Reply-To: <200403291055.44302.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <20040329152414.GA16647@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080574509.14145.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <200403291055.44302.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1080575797.7589.4.camel@opus> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 10:55, Neal Becker wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > x86-64 is for athlon-64, right? yes. -sv From sehh at altered.com Mon Mar 29 16:16:41 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:16:41 +0100 Subject: [SPAM] - Re: FC2 test 2. - Found word(s) list error in the Textbody. In-Reply-To: References: <20040329165114.311b4636@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: <20040329171641.1e633f59@ekolaptis.> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:54:23 -0500 "Mark Haney" wrote: > Yeah I know. It figures it would be available right about the time I spam > everyone asking about it. LOL :))) From asenci at uol.com.br Mon Mar 29 16:35:20 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:35:20 -0300 Subject: esd /alsa problem In-Reply-To: <4067F246.8050005@skmoore.com> References: <4067F246.8050005@skmoore.com> Message-ID: <1080578119.12322.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> What ls -l /dev/dsp* shows? Try setting all to 777 or 666 (chmod a+rw /dev/dsp*) and start esd as a normal user. Em Seg, 2004-03-29 ?s 19:54 +1000, Stephen Moore escreveu: > I can only load esd as root. When I try to load esd as a user I get > "audio_alsa: no cards found!". > > When I run as root, esd starts fine. I presume that this some sort of > permissions problem. This is not a alsa mute problem (I think). > > Cheers > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From romanenko.igor at kyivstar.net Mon Mar 29 16:43:05 2004 From: romanenko.igor at kyivstar.net (Igor Romanenko) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:43:05 +0300 Subject: SSH and charset In-Reply-To: <406815F8.3020203@inksystems.net> References: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> <200403291517.33662.romanenko.igor@kyivstar.net> <406815F8.3020203@inksystems.net> Message-ID: <200403291943.05386.romanenko.igor@kyivstar.net> ? ????????? ?? 29 ???? 2004 15:26 Igor N. Kolomiyets ???????(a): > I had previously issues with ru_RU.UTF-8 on FC1. But they seem to be > fixed in FC2. At least no new glitches so far. There are some glitches with locales. E.g., yum ignores the setting LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R and prints it's messages in UTF-8, unless you set LANG=C Actually, another problem is that KOI8-R (or KOI8-U for Ukrainian) is a de facto standard encoding for free unices in Russia (Ukraine). Almost all text files are in KOI8-R (KOI8-U), including program sources, TeX documents, etc. Converting all this to UTF-8 is a tedious task - don't you think? ;) Again, all this is my HO, although, judging from local mailing lists, many users think along these lines. Sincerely, -- Igor Romanenko @..@ Office: romanenko.igor at kyivstar.net, +380-67-4656002 (----) Home: igor at frog.kiev.ua ( | | ) "On the Internet nobody knows you are a Frog" " " From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Mar 29 17:34:22 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:34:22 +0200 Subject: DVD iso too big ? Message-ID: <1080581662.1436.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso is bigger than 4 Go. examples : $ wget -d http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso 2>&1 | tee log DEBUG output created by Wget 1.9+cvs-stable (Red Hat modified) on linux-gnu. --19:26:37-- http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso => `FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso.1' Resolving mirror.clarkson.edu... 128.153.144.19 Caching mirror.clarkson.edu => 128.153.144.19 Connecting to mirror.clarkson.edu[128.153.144.19]:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x8cb3d50 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET /pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.9+cvs-stable (Red Hat modified) Host: mirror.clarkson.edu Accept: */* Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:26:38 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.28 (Unix) (Gentoo/Linux) PHP/4.3.2 Last-Modified: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:56:52 GMT ETag: "13b000d-a88000-406355a4" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 11042816 <========================== Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: application/octet-stream Found mirror.clarkson.edu in host_name_addresses_map (0x8cb3d50) Registered fd 3 for persistent reuse. Length: 11,042,816 [application/octet-stream] <=========================== The same thing append with ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com//pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso . Real size : 4306010112 Size view by wget : 11042816 (4306010112 - 2^32) From bartk at clara.co.uk Mon Mar 29 17:47:27 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:47:27 +0100 Subject: DVD iso too big ? In-Reply-To: <1080581662.1436.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080581662.1436.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4068612F.3060109@clara.co.uk> Is that a problem ?? DVD --R are 4.7GB Matias Feliciano wrote: >FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso is bigger than 4 Go. > >examples : >$ wget -d http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso 2>&1 | tee log >DEBUG output created by Wget 1.9+cvs-stable (Red Hat modified) on linux-gnu. > >--19:26:37-- http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso > => `FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso.1' >Resolving mirror.clarkson.edu... 128.153.144.19 >Caching mirror.clarkson.edu => 128.153.144.19 >Connecting to mirror.clarkson.edu[128.153.144.19]:80... connected. >Created socket 3. >Releasing 0x8cb3d50 (new refcount 1). >---request begin--- >GET /pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso HTTP/1.0 >User-Agent: Wget/1.9+cvs-stable (Red Hat modified) >Host: mirror.clarkson.edu >Accept: */* >Connection: Keep-Alive > >---request end--- >HTTP request sent, awaiting response... HTTP/1.1 200 OK >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:26:38 GMT >Server: Apache/1.3.28 (Unix) (Gentoo/Linux) PHP/4.3.2 >Last-Modified: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:56:52 GMT >ETag: "13b000d-a88000-406355a4" >Accept-Ranges: bytes >Content-Length: 11042816 <========================== >Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 >Connection: Keep-Alive >Content-Type: application/octet-stream > > >Found mirror.clarkson.edu in host_name_addresses_map (0x8cb3d50) >Registered fd 3 for persistent reuse. >Length: 11,042,816 [application/octet-stream] <=========================== > > > > > >The same thing append with >ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com//pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso . > > >Real size : 4306010112 >Size view by wget : 11042816 (4306010112 - 2^32) > > > > > -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Mar 29 17:54:38 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:54:38 +0200 Subject: DVD iso too big ? In-Reply-To: <4068612F.3060109@clara.co.uk> References: <1080581662.1436.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4068612F.3060109@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <1080582877.1436.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 29/03/2004 ? 19:47, Bart Kalita a ?crit : > Is that a problem ?? > > DVD --R are 4.7GB > > Sorry for my poor english. FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso size is 4306010112 (more than 4Go) but httpd server indicate only 11042816 (~ 11Mo). This is how the download finish (with wget) : 10650K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 99% 22.73 KB/s 10700K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 99% 25.91 KB/s 10750K .......... .......... .......... .... 100% 26.78 KB/s 19:43:08 (33.05 KB/s) - `FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso' saved [11042816/11042816] Only 11 Mo. From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 29 17:59:46 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:59:46 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes Message-ID: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> I see that the DVD sizes for i386 and x86_64 are different ... very different. For i386 -- 4.3GB For x86_64 -- 2.147GB This does not make sense. I also see that the SRPMS iso images are all exactly the same size ... different between i386 and x86_64 but for each architecture it is exactly the same size. This is also a littly hard to believe. -- Gene From jakub at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 18:03:06 2004 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:03:06 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040329180306.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 12:59:46PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > I see that the DVD sizes for i386 and x86_64 are different ... very different. > > For i386 -- 4.3GB > For x86_64 -- 2.147GB > > This does not make sense. On which mirror do you see this? ls -l 1.91/*/iso/*DVD.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors 4306010112 Mar 25 22:56 1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors 4184965120 Mar 25 23:27 1.91/x86_64/iso/FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso Jakub From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 29 18:03:32 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 29 Mar 2004 13:03:32 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080583412.8697.0.camel@opus> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 12:59, Gene C. wrote: > I see that the DVD sizes for i386 and x86_64 are different ... very different. > > For i386 -- 4.3GB > For x86_64 -- 2.147GB > > This does not make sense. > > I also see that the SRPMS iso images are all exactly the same size ... > different between i386 and x86_64 but for each architecture it is exactly the > same size. > And that's wrong. I've checked the md5sums for all of these - here are the sizes: FC2-test2-i386-DVD 4.1G FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD 4.0G FC2-test2-binary-i386 - 2.1G FC2-test2-binary-x86_64 - 2.1G -sv From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Mar 29 18:10:53 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:10:53 -0500 Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? Message-ID: <200403291310.54842.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm using FC2T2, which is from continuous updating from FC2T1. It seems NFS exports are not working on this box. Anyone know what needs to be done to fix it? mount includes: none on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw) none on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) none on /var/lib/rpc_pipes type rpc_pipefs (rw) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAaGatMDqogpR5tkMRAmPEAJ9njTWXHbQeqiV7LLyS9LYKWKkFOwCghmB7 oWCy+V3gGQPpFHEHN2/ZyaY= =PUui -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 29 18:14:43 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:14:43 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <20040329180306.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> <20040329180306.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403291314.43020.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 29 March 2004 13:03, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 12:59:46PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > I see that the DVD sizes for i386 and x86_64 are different ... very > > different. > > > > For i386 -- 4.3GB > > For x86_64 -- 2.147GB > > > > This does not make sense. > > On which mirror do you see this? > ls -l 1.91/*/iso/*DVD.iso > -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors 4306010112 Mar 25 22:56 > 1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors > 4184965120 Mar 25 23:27 1.91/x86_64/iso/FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso Oops! Looks like sunsite.mff.cuni.cz is bad. -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 29 18:18:17 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:18:17 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <200403291314.43020.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> <20040329180306.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403291314.43020.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <200403291318.17206.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 29 March 2004 13:14, Gene C. wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2004 13:03, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 12:59:46PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > > I see that the DVD sizes for i386 and x86_64 are different ... very > > > different. > > > > > > For i386 -- 4.3GB > > > For x86_64 -- 2.147GB > > > > > > This does not make sense. > > > > On which mirror do you see this? > > ls -l 1.91/*/iso/*DVD.iso > > -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors 4306010112 Mar 25 22:56 > > 1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors > > 4184965120 Mar 25 23:27 1.91/x86_64/iso/FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso > > Oops! Looks like sunsite.mff.cuni.cz is bad. Worse yet, mirror.hiwaay.net has the SAME bad size for dvd. Too much to be coincidence. -- Gene From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 29 18:20:35 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 29 Mar 2004 13:20:35 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <200403291318.17206.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> <20040329180306.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403291314.43020.czar@czarc.net> <200403291318.17206.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080584434.8697.2.camel@opus> > Worse yet, mirror.hiwaay.net has the SAME bad size for dvd. Too much to be > coincidence. Why not just use the torrent for the isos. It will probably be faster anyway. -sv From philip at wyett.net Mon Mar 29 18:20:14 2004 From: philip at wyett.net (Philip Wyett) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:20:14 +0100 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <200403291314.43020.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> <20040329180306.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403291314.43020.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080584413.2482.6.camel@wyett> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 19:14, Gene C. wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2004 13:03, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 12:59:46PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > > I see that the DVD sizes for i386 and x86_64 are different ... very > > > different. > > > > > > For i386 -- 4.3GB > > > For x86_64 -- 2.147GB > > > > > > This does not make sense. > > > > On which mirror do you see this? > > ls -l 1.91/*/iso/*DVD.iso > > -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors 4306010112 Mar 25 22:56 > > 1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors > > 4184965120 Mar 25 23:27 1.91/x86_64/iso/FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso > > Oops! Looks like sunsite.mff.cuni.cz is bad. Add ftp.quicknet.nl to the bad list as the i386 DVD iso is 2.147Gb Regards Philip Wyett -- Email: philip at wyett.net Website: http://www.wyett.net Public key: http://www.wyett.net/gpg/public_key.txt -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 29 18:23:41 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:23:41 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <1080583412.8697.0.camel@opus> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> <1080583412.8697.0.camel@opus> Message-ID: <200403291323.41221.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 29 March 2004 13:03, seth vidal wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 12:59, Gene C. wrote: > > I see that the DVD sizes for i386 and x86_64 are different ... very > > different. > > > > For i386 -- 4.3GB > > For x86_64 -- 2.147GB > > > > This does not make sense. > > > > I also see that the SRPMS iso images are all exactly the same size ... > > different between i386 and x86_64 but for each architecture it is exactly > > the same size. > > And that's wrong. > > I've checked the md5sums for all of these - here are the sizes: > FC2-test2-i386-DVD 4.1G > FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD 4.0G > > FC2-test2-binary-i386 - 2.1G > FC2-test2-binary-x86_64 - 2.1G Right, wrong, or indifferent. I am just saying what is reported by gftp and lftp for sizes of the DVD images from a couple of different sites (ftp access). -- Gene From alan at clueserver.org Mon Mar 29 18:25:10 2004 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:25:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? In-Reply-To: <200403291310.54842.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm using FC2T2, which is from continuous updating from FC2T1. It seems NFS > exports are not working on this box. Anyone know what needs to be done to > fix it? Is /etc/init.d/nfs and /etc/init.d/nfslock getting started? Are you being blocked by a firewall? There are two ports that need to be opened to get nfs to work correctly. I don't remember them off the top of my head though. > > mount includes: > none on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw) > none on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) > none on /var/lib/rpc_pipes type rpc_pipefs (rw) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAaGatMDqogpR5tkMRAmPEAJ9njTWXHbQeqiV7LLyS9LYKWKkFOwCghmB7 > oWCy+V3gGQPpFHEHN2/ZyaY= > =PUui > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Mar 29 18:37:08 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:37:08 +0200 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080585427.1436.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 29/03/2004 ? 19:59, Gene C. a ?crit : > I see that the DVD sizes for i386 and x86_64 are different ... very different. > > For i386 -- 4.3GB > For x86_64 -- 2.147GB > 2.147GB = 2GiB = 2^31 . Something similar here but with 2^32 : http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg02052.html From tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com Mon Mar 29 18:39:03 2004 From: tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com (George Garvey) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:39:03 -0800 Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? In-Reply-To: <200403291310.54842.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200403291310.54842.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040329183903.GA4166@inxservices.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:10:53PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm using FC2T2, which is from continuous updating from FC2T1. It seems NFS > exports are not working on this box. Anyone know what needs to be done to > fix it? Same problem here, which is only happening on a box updated from FC2T1. Just started near the end of last week. All other computers still export NFS without problems. The only thing I find in the log is: Mar 29 09:35:06 van01 rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from mwg.inxservices.lan:930 for /var/spool/fax (/) Mar 29 09:35:06 van01 rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from mwg.inxservices.lan:937 for /usr/lib/mgetty+sendfax (/) Mar 29 09:35:07 van01 rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from mwg.inxservices.lan:944 for / (/) Mar 29 09:35:07 van01 rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from mwg.inxservices.lan:951 for /usr/inXDB/van (/) Mar 29 09:35:07 van01 rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from mwg.inxservices.lan:958 for /usr/inXDB/van.test (/) On the system where mount was run: $mount -a opt=rsize opt=wsize mount: van01:/var/spool/fax failed, reason given by server: Permission denied opt=rsize opt=wsize mount: van01:/usr/lib/mgetty+sendfax failed, reason given by server: Permission denied This is the exports that are appropriate to the system running mount: / mwg.inxservices.lan(rw,secure,no_root_squash,sync,map_identity,nohide,no_subtree_check) /var/qmail mwg.inxservices.lan(rw,secure,no_root_squash,sync,map_identity,nohide,no_subtree_check) The kernel on van01 is old (2.6.2-1.87), because I can't get a newer kernel to run. It has HT, and uses SMP. selinux=0 is currently in the kernel boot parameters. /etc/hosts.* have not changed since it was working. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Mar 29 18:49:52 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:49:52 -0500 Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403291349.58014.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 29 March 2004 1:25 pm, alan wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I'm using FC2T2, which is from continuous updating from FC2T1. It seems > > NFS exports are not working on this box. Anyone know what needs to be > > done to fix it? > > Is /etc/init.d/nfs and /etc/init.d/nfslock getting started? > > Are you being blocked by a firewall? There are two ports that need to be > opened to get nfs to work correctly. I don't remember them off the top of > my head though. > I believe this is a problem that is related to 2.6.4-1.281. Someone reported here that you need to mount none on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw) I have this mount, but exports still is not working. Clients just hang forever. No messages. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAaG/TMDqogpR5tkMRAkg1AJ9lDQ4wF2YyFwGDkg3XWM96gETrVwCfQ9Z+ WkpzS1XwQfpSez5b6DV8TuQ= =G48/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Mar 29 18:52:47 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:52:47 -0500 Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403291352.49131.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 29 March 2004 1:25 pm, alan wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I'm using FC2T2, which is from continuous updating from FC2T1. It seems > > NFS exports are not working on this box. Anyone know what needs to be > > done to fix it? > > Is /etc/init.d/nfs and /etc/init.d/nfslock getting started? > > Are you being blocked by a firewall? There are two ports that need to be > opened to get nfs to work correctly. I don't remember them off the top of > my head though. > > > mount includes: > > none on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw) > > none on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) > > none on /var/lib/rpc_pipes type rpc_pipefs (rw) Is there a problem with my /etc/fstab? Notice the last 2 lines above. I have 2 rpc_pipefs mounts. /etc/fstab says: none /var/lib/rpc_pipes rpc_pipefs defaults 0 0 none /proc/fs/nfs nfsd noauto,defaults 0 0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAaHB/MDqogpR5tkMRAliGAJ9JmzhcVolBr+TBOp3q1+RAKmEtywCfdrCg kv9llTptChnunO1186Br22o= =iXOo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From janina at rednote.net Mon Mar 29 18:56:35 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:56:35 -0500 Subject: console beep missing In-Reply-To: <20040329060321.GA2493@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <200403270205.i2R25lp08347@rgmgw6.us.oracle.com> <20040327210622.GF4451@rednote.net> <1080421940.1680.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040328184530.GC28426@rednote.net> <20040329060321.GA2493@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <20040329185634.GC4223@rednote.net> Matthew Miller writes: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 01:45:31PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > I can think of several workarounds. Point is, though, that it belongs in > > /etc/modprobe.conf. And, the proper incantation should be documented in > > the kernel source tree. > > As far as I know, modprobe.conf/modules.conf doesn't have any way of forcing > a given module to load at boot time. It just gives options for modules > whenever they happen to load. If nothing is telling the kernel that it needs > to load the pc speaker module, modprobe.conf doesn't come into it.... > Perhaps there isn't an alias for it. Point is, we need a way to havwe the beep. If there's some desire to allow this feature to be configurable on a per user basis, that's fine. But it doesn't seem as if anyone involved in making this change has thought very much about the impact the change is having. So, back to the original question -- what's the right way to put the beep back? And, where's the doc for it. > > -- > Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org > Boston University Linux ------> > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 From icon at linux.duke.edu Mon Mar 29 18:55:21 2004 From: icon at linux.duke.edu (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:55:21 -0500 Subject: Alsa mixer problems on t2. Message-ID: <40687119.3020102@linux.duke.edu> Hello, all: I can't seem to get alsa mixer to work on a newly reinstalled fc2-t2. Whenever I try to run it from the panel, I get: Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found I can get the sound to play using system-config-soundcard and by just issuing "play /usr/share/sounds/generic.wav", but anything mixer-related won't work. Anyone is seeing this? Regards, -- Konstantin ("Icon") Ryabitsev Duke Physics Systems Admin, RHCE I am looking for a job in Canada! http://linux.duke.edu/~icon/cajob.ptml From icon at linux.duke.edu Mon Mar 29 19:01:23 2004 From: icon at linux.duke.edu (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:01:23 -0500 Subject: Gpg not worky. :( Message-ID: <40687283.40609@linux.duke.edu> icon at hagrid:[~]$ gpg --list-keys gpg: WARNING: using insecure memory! gpg: please see http://www.gnupg.org/faq.html for more information gpg: fatal: /home/einstein/staff/icon/.gnupg: can't create directory: Permission denied secmem usage: 0/0 bytes in 0/0 blocks of pool 0/32768 This directory already exists, though: icon at hagrid:[~/.gnupg]$ ls -ld /home/einstein/staff/icon/.gnupg drwxrwxr-x 2 icon icon 4096 Mar 29 2004 /home/einstein/staff/icon/.gnupg/ This probably explains it: audit(1080586739.281:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=4108 exe=/usr/bin/gpg dev= ino=2648 scontext=user_u:user_r:user_gpg_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:autofs_t tclass=dir Anyone knows how I can make it worky again? I miss my gpg. :( Cheers, -- Konstantin ("Icon") Ryabitsev Duke Physics Systems Admin, RHCE I am looking for a job in Canada! http://linux.duke.edu/~icon/cajob.ptml From zachw at termdex.com Mon Mar 29 19:06:59 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:06:59 -0500 Subject: FC2 DVDs: why ISO instead of UDF? Message-ID: <00ad01c415c1$0344d2d0$6601a8c0@termdex.local> Why was the ISO9660 filesystem chosen over UDF for the FC2-test2 DVD images? Just curious, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com Mon Mar 29 19:12:19 2004 From: tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com (George Garvey) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:12:19 -0800 Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? In-Reply-To: <200403291352.49131.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200403291352.49131.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040329191219.GB4166@inxservices.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:52:47PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > Is there a problem with my /etc/fstab? Notice the last 2 lines above. I have > 2 rpc_pipefs mounts. > > /etc/fstab says: > > none /var/lib/rpc_pipes rpc_pipefs defaults 0 0 > none /proc/fs/nfs nfsd noauto,defaults 0 0 Mounting /proc/fs/nfs just solved my problem. Note that fstab says don't do it automatically. Is it actually mounted now? From bkoz at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 19:19:17 2004 From: bkoz at redhat.com (Benjamin Kosnik) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:19:17 -0600 Subject: FC2 test 2 live cd? Message-ID: <20040329131917.090b23ae.bkoz@redhat.com> Is there a live cd for this last release? Using a live-cd would be easier for me than a complete install at the moment. There was a live cd for some of the previous Fedora releases, but I've not really had good luck with it: http://ftp.dyu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/ISO-image/Live-CD/C1218/ Anyway, just curious. -benjamin From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Mar 29 19:22:47 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:22:47 -0500 Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? In-Reply-To: <20040329191219.GB4166@inxservices.com> References: <200403291352.49131.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <20040329191219.GB4166@inxservices.com> Message-ID: <200403291422.49348.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 29 March 2004 2:12 pm, George Garvey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:52:47PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > Is there a problem with my /etc/fstab? Notice the last 2 lines above. I > > have 2 rpc_pipefs mounts. > > > > /etc/fstab says: > > > > none /var/lib/rpc_pipes rpc_pipefs defaults 0 0 > > none /proc/fs/nfs nfsd noauto,defaults 0 0 > > Mounting /proc/fs/nfs just solved my problem. Note that fstab says don't > do it automatically. Is it actually mounted now? Yes, it is mounted. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAaHeHMDqogpR5tkMRAl8zAJ43J9uxjIeAMqnG3SqmLjMvaT0KdACcDS9J wxnqmJeplSFnEQP6T8WkhTU= =ykrx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From reg at dwf.com Mon Mar 29 19:33:50 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:33:50 -0700 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! Message-ID: <200403291933.i2TJXoxc025370@orion.dwf.com> Ive used BitTorrent to download Fedora before, but today I just cant get the damn thing to work. Ive gone so far as to download a NEW version of the python for FC1 and installed the RPM. I tried to add application/x-bittorrent /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py to the Mozilla Edit->Preferences->Helper Applications list, and then click on the line in the mailing-list message, but nothing, I get the Download Manager popup, but then nothing else. OK, tried doing it by hand, I type btdownloadcurses.py --url http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC2-test2-binary-i3 86.torrent and I get the message: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py", line 7, in ? from BitTorrent.download import download ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download So what the ???? is going on???? -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Mar 29 19:36:30 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:36:30 +0200 Subject: DVD iso too big ? In-Reply-To: <1080582877.1436.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080581662.1436.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4068612F.3060109@clara.co.uk> <1080582877.1436.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080588990.1436.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 29/03/2004 ? 19:54, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > Le lun 29/03/2004 ? 19:47, Bart Kalita a ?crit : > > Is that a problem ?? > > > > DVD --R are 4.7GB > > > > > > Sorry for my poor english. > > FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso size is 4306010112 (more than 4Go) but httpd > server indicate only 11042816 (~ 11Mo). > > This is how the download finish (with wget) : > > 10650K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 99% 22.73 KB/s > 10700K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 99% 25.91 KB/s > 10750K .......... .......... .......... .... 100% 26.78 KB/s > > 19:43:08 (33.05 KB/s) - `FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso' saved [11042816/11042816] > > Only 11 Mo. > > > other troubles here : http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=6516&offset=15&rows=25#217277 From bstretch at mindspring.com Mon Mar 29 19:38:33 2004 From: bstretch at mindspring.com (Brian Stretch) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:38:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: HP zv5000z AMD64 FC2 Test 2 Install fails Message-ID: <30992320.1080589117373.JavaMail.root@wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Update: FC1 AMD64 installs on this HP zv5000z Athlon 64 nForce3 chipset notebook so long as I use idle=poll. However, FC2 Test 2, attempted via boot CD and local NFS server with the four binary CD images, says "no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems" after I select manual partitioning with Disk Druid. Then it reboots. I tried acpi=off selinux=0 just for laughs, no diff. Anyone have any ideas before I bugzilla this? It can't detect the "mouse" either, which is an ALPS keypad, and I didn't see an option to manually select it like I could with FC1. From pmatilai at welho.com Mon Mar 29 19:39:39 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:39:39 +0300 Subject: fedora.us FC2 test2 1.91 repository status In-Reply-To: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> References: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1080589179.26998.5.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 15:03, Warren Togami wrote: > http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraMirrorList > > 1.91 has been added to the fedora.us repository mirrors. Please DO NOT > USE THE MAIN MIRROR, choose a nearer mirror from the list above. The > current 1.90 tree will disappear REAL SOON NOW so update your apt/yum > configurations. > > fedora.us apt and yum for 1.91 is not yet ready, so for now you will > need to copy the old 1.90 version and edit the configs. It still seems > to be binary compatible for now. However we have no idea if apt will > work with selinux enforcement enabled. So far the only problem I've noticed in enforcing mode is that scriptlets fail: Mar 29 22:11:24 localhost kernel: audit(1080587484.331:0): avc: denied { transition } for pid=20446 exe=/usr/bin/apt-get path=/bin/bash dev=hda2 ino=16232 scontext=root:sysadm_r:sysadm_t tcontext=root:sysadm_r:rpm_script_t tclass=processMar 29 22:11:25 localhost kernel: audit(1080587485.730:0): avc: denied { transition } for pid=20447 exe=/usr/bin/apt-get path=/bin/bash dev=hda2 ino=16232 scontext=root:sysadm_r:sysadm_t tcontext=root:sysadm_r:rpm_script_t tclass=processMar 29 22:20:28 localhost kernel: audit(1080588028.671:0): avc: denied { transition } for pid=24368 exe=/usr/sbin/synaptic path=/bin/bash dev=hda2 ino=16232 scontext=root:sysadm_r:sysadm_t tcontext=root:sysadm_r:rpm_script_t tclass=process I was expecting much worse a mess :) but of course scriptlets failing is bad enough already... Guess I have some selinux-studying ahead. - Panu - From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 29 19:50:26 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: 29 Mar 2004 14:50:26 -0500 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: <200403291933.i2TJXoxc025370@orion.dwf.com> References: <200403291933.i2TJXoxc025370@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <1080589826.8697.4.camel@opus> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 14:33, reg at dwf.com wrote: > Ive used BitTorrent to download Fedora before, but today I > just cant get the damn thing to work. > > Ive gone so far as to download a NEW version of the python > for FC1 and installed the RPM. > > I tried to add > application/x-bittorrent /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py > > to the Mozilla Edit->Preferences->Helper Applications list, and then > click on the line in the mailing-list message, but nothing, I get the > Download Manager popup, but then nothing else. > > OK, tried doing it by hand, I type > btdownloadcurses.py --url http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC2-test2-binary-i3 > 86.torrent rpm -q bittorrent rpm -q python I'm betting it's a site-packages issue with python 2.2 vs python 2.3 -sv From list at inksystems.net Mon Mar 29 19:53:47 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor N. Kolomiyets) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:53:47 +0100 Subject: SSH and charset References: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru><200403291517.33662.romanenko.igor@kyivstar.net><406815F8.3020203@inksystems.net> <200403291943.05386.romanenko.igor@kyivstar.net> Message-ID: <001b01c415c7$8cb27f80$026fa8c0@BETA> > Actually, another problem is that KOI8-R (or KOI8-U for Ukrainian) > is a de facto standard encoding for free unices in Russia (Ukraine). > Almost all text files are in KOI8-R (KOI8-U), including program > sources, TeX documents, etc. Converting all this to UTF-8 > is a tedious task - don't you think? ;) IMHO at some stage it will be done anyways as UTF is becoming a de facto standard for i18n worldwide. 10 years ago there were a lot of different docs in Cp866, no it is so rare. In my opinion, the same will happen with national character sets. UTF is handier, there is no doubt about that. And coming to it as a common standard is just a matter of time. Best regards, Igor. From Baer at BaerSolutions.com Mon Mar 29 19:57:13 2004 From: Baer at BaerSolutions.com (R. Scott Baer) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:57:13 -0500 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: <200403291933.i2TJXoxc025370@orion.dwf.com> References: <200403291933.i2TJXoxc025370@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <40687F99.4040301@BaerSolutions.com> reg at dwf.com wrote: >Ive used BitTorrent to download Fedora before, but today I >just cant get the damn thing to work. > >Ive gone so far as to download a NEW version of the python >for FC1 and installed the RPM. > >I tried to add > application/x-bittorrent /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py > >to the Mozilla Edit->Preferences->Helper Applications list, and then >click on the line in the mailing-list message, but nothing, I get the >Download Manager popup, but then nothing else. > >OK, tried doing it by hand, I type > btdownloadcurses.py --url http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC2-test2-binary-i3 >86.torrent > >and I get the message: > >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py", line 7, in ? > from BitTorrent.download import download >ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download > >So what the ???? is going on???? > > > > What version are you useing ?? I'm curretnly downloading with bittorrent-3.3-0.fdr.2.fc1 my python version is python-2.2.3-7 Im running on a fc1 From a6a73997 at telus.net Mon Mar 29 20:04:30 2004 From: a6a73997 at telus.net (Matt Walters) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:04:30 -0800 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: <40687F99.4040301@BaerSolutions.com> References: <200403291933.i2TJXoxc025370@orion.dwf.com> <40687F99.4040301@BaerSolutions.com> Message-ID: <200403291204.31334.a6a73997@telus.net> BitTorrent places the libraries in a subdirectory in some arbitrarily-versioned Python subdir. Copy or symlink the files from the arbitrarily-versioned Pythod subdir to whatever version of Python you have installed and it will work fine (not that I had this exact issue, or anything). -Matt On March 29, 2004 11:57 am, R. Scott Baer wrote: > reg at dwf.com wrote: > >Ive used BitTorrent to download Fedora before, but today I > >just cant get the damn thing to work. > > > >Ive gone so far as to download a NEW version of the python > >for FC1 and installed the RPM. > > > >I tried to add > > application/x-bittorrent /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py > > > >to the Mozilla Edit->Preferences->Helper Applications list, and then > >click on the line in the mailing-list message, but nothing, I get the > >Download Manager popup, but then nothing else. > > > >OK, tried doing it by hand, I type > > btdownloadcurses.py --url > > http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC2-test2-binary-i3 86.torrent > > > >and I get the message: > > > >Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py", line 7, in ? > > from BitTorrent.download import download > >ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download > > > >So what the ???? is going on???? > > What version are you useing ?? > I'm curretnly downloading with bittorrent-3.3-0.fdr.2.fc1 > my python version is python-2.2.3-7 > Im running on a fc1 From jakub at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 20:04:37 2004 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:04:37 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <200403291318.17206.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> <20040329180306.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403291314.43020.czar@czarc.net> <200403291318.17206.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040329200437.GW31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:18:17PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > > > On which mirror do you see this? > > > ls -l 1.91/*/iso/*DVD.iso > > > -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors 4306010112 Mar 25 22:56 > > > 1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 mirrors mirrors > > > 4184965120 Mar 25 23:27 1.91/x86_64/iso/FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso > > > > Oops! Looks like sunsite.mff.cuni.cz is bad. > > Worse yet, mirror.hiwaay.net has the SAME bad size for dvd. Too much to be > coincidence. Then it looks like a problem in the client: ftp sunsite.mff.cuni.cz Connected to sunsite.ms.mff.cuni.cz. 220 Welcome to SunSITE.MFF.CUni.CZ service. 530 Please login with USER and PASS. 530 Please login with USER and PASS. KERBEROS_V4 rejected as an authentication type Name (sunsite.mff.cuni.cz:root): ftp 331 Please specify the password. Password: 230 Login successful. Have fun. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> dir pub/fedora/test/1.91/x86_64/iso 227 Entering Passive Mode (195,113,15,26,113,163) 150 Here comes the directory listing. -rw-r--r-- 3 ftp ftp 4184965120 Mar 25 22:27 FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 ftp ftp 503709696 Mar 25 22:06 FC2-test2-x86_64-SRPMS-disc1.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 ftp ftp 503709696 Mar 25 22:09 FC2-test2-x86_64-SRPMS-disc2.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 ftp ftp 503709696 Mar 25 22:12 FC2-test2-x86_64-SRPMS-disc3.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 ftp ftp 503709696 Mar 25 22:14 FC2-test2-x86_64-SRPMS-disc4.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 ftp ftp 666632192 Mar 25 21:54 FC2-test2-x86_64-disc1.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 ftp ftp 666664960 Mar 25 21:58 FC2-test2-x86_64-disc2.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 ftp ftp 666370048 Mar 25 22:02 FC2-test2-x86_64-disc3.iso -rw-r--r-- 3 ftp ftp 171606016 Mar 25 22:04 FC2-test2-x86_64-disc4.iso -rw-r--r-- 2 ftp ftp 807 Mar 26 01:35 MD5SUM 226 Directory send OK. Jakub From jfm512 at free.fr Mon Mar 29 20:06:10 2004 From: jfm512 at free.fr (Jean Francois Martinez) Date: 29 Mar 2004 22:06:10 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD Message-ID: <1080590769.1308.15.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Was Test2 supposed to be bootable from CD? I have tried on several boxes, (and yes the bootparms) are right in the Bios, and this thing does not boot. I reburned the image and still the same I also notice there are no images for booting from floppy or for network installations, except for PXE so if you don't have a box capable of booting from the Internet you are out -- Jean Francois Martinez From a6a73997 at telus.net Mon Mar 29 20:11:58 2004 From: a6a73997 at telus.net (Matt Walters) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:11:58 -0800 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: <200403291204.31334.a6a73997@telus.net> References: <200403291933.i2TJXoxc025370@orion.dwf.com> <40687F99.4040301@BaerSolutions.com> <200403291204.31334.a6a73997@telus.net> Message-ID: <200403291211.58735.a6a73997@telus.net> On March 29, 2004 12:04 pm, Matt Walters wrote: > BitTorrent places the libraries in a subdirectory in some > arbitrarily-versioned Python subdir. Copy or symlink the files from the > arbitrarily-versioned Pythod subdir to whatever version of Python you have > installed and it will work fine (not that I had this exact issue, or > anything). I suppose I could be more specific: BitTorrent places the "libraries" it needs in /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/BitTorrent (at least, that's where they lived on my machine). I copied /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/BitTorrent/ to /usr/lib/python-2.3/site-packages/ (since 2.3 is the version I have installed) and it worked fine. -Matt From pmatilai at welho.com Mon Mar 29 20:13:13 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:13:13 +0300 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: <1080590769.1308.15.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> References: <1080590769.1308.15.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <1080591192.26998.9.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 23:06, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > Was Test2 supposed to be bootable from CD? > > I have tried on several boxes, (and yes the bootparms) are right in > the Bios, and this thing does not boot. > > I reburned the image and still the same Worked for me. Did you md5sum the downloaded iso-image? > > I also notice there are no images for booting from floppy or for network > installations, except for PXE so if you don't have a box capable > of booting from the Internet you are out This has been discussed quite a few times here already: the 2.6 kernel is too big to fit into a floppy anymore so floppy installs are out, can't be helped. You can use either the 1st CD or boot.iso image to do network installations as well, and with much less hassle since you don't need a separate driver disk. - Panu - From rxs141 at po.cwru.edu Mon Mar 29 20:13:38 2004 From: rxs141 at po.cwru.edu (Ravi Shekhar) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:13:38 -0500 Subject: RPM tree as torrent? Message-ID: <40688372.2070509@po.cwru.edu> Hi, I don't know if I'm the only one, but I much prefer to download the /i386/os directory and set up a local mirror to do an FTP install. Bittorrent can handle multiple files easily, and it seems like it would take some load off the servers. I don't mind seeding it as soon as I'm done, I'm on a university T3 line. But at the current rate, it will take 6 hours for me to get directory from ibiblio. I haven't found a faster mirror. They're all overloaded. Ravi From reg at dwf.com Mon Mar 29 20:15:51 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:15:51 -0700 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: Message from "R. Scott Baer" of "Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:57:13 EST." <40687F99.4040301@BaerSolutions.com> Message-ID: <200403292015.i2TKFptU026011@orion.dwf.com> > reg at dwf.com wrote: > > >Ive used BitTorrent to download Fedora before, but today I > >just cant get the damn thing to work. > > > >Ive gone so far as to download a NEW version of the python > >for FC1 and installed the RPM. > > > >I tried to add > > application/x-bittorrent /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py > > > >to the Mozilla Edit->Preferences->Helper Applications list, and then > >click on the line in the mailing-list message, but nothing, I get the > >Download Manager popup, but then nothing else. > > > >OK, tried doing it by hand, I type > > btdownloadcurses.py --url http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC2-test2-binary-i3 > >86.torrent > > > >and I get the message: > > > >Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py", line 7, in ? > > from BitTorrent.download import download > >ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download > > > >So what the ???? is going on???? > > > > > > > > > What version are you useing ?? > I'm curretnly downloading with bittorrent-3.3-0.fdr.2.fc1 > my python version is python-2.2.3-7 > Im running on a fc1 > > Im running bittorrent-3.3-0.fdr.2.fc1 python-2.3.3-1 on fc2t1. Is that a problem? -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From jspaleta at princeton.edu Mon Mar 29 20:14:06 2004 From: jspaleta at princeton.edu (Jef Spaleta) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:14:06 -0500 Subject: FC2 test 2 live cd? Message-ID: <1080591246.15476.71.camel@spatula.pppl.gov> Benjamin Kosnik wrote: > There was a live cd for some of the previous Fedora releases, but > I've not really had good luck with it: No, there are no 'official' live cds for ANY fedora release...not yet. The url you pasted...is a best..a derivative distribution and shouldn't be using the Fedora name, and more likely than not its probably using the associated trademarked artwork inappropriately. Ethically and maybe legally they probably shouldn't be calling that live-cd 'Fedora.' Just like Knoppix is not called debian live-cd, the person creating that live-cd should not call it the fedora live-cd and should name it something it else and say it is fedora-based. If you use a live-cd created by someone in the community, be aware, that you probably can't expect any bugs you file about the live-cd experience to be handled by the Fedora developers. Make sure you know who is responsible for the live-cd development so you know who to complain to when it doesn't work. -jef"why bother with livecds when you can have Felt Tip Linux, a fedora-based live-usbkeydrive distro"spaleta From cmadams at hiwaay.net Mon Mar 29 20:16:24 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:16:24 -0600 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <200403291318.17206.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> <20040329180306.GV31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403291314.43020.czar@czarc.net> <200403291318.17206.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040329201624.GB1181602@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Gene C. said: > Worse yet, mirror.hiwaay.net has the SAME bad size for dvd. Too much to be > coincidence. Problem between keyboard and monitor? They're of similar size here (and I haven't touched them since initial sync): mirror:3:/data/mirror/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91$ ls -l */iso/*DVD* -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 4306010112 Mar 25 15:56 i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 4184965120 Mar 25 16:27 x86_64/iso/FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso mirror:4:/data/mirror/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91$ -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From bartk at clara.co.uk Mon Mar 29 20:19:30 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:19:30 +0100 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: <200403291204.31334.a6a73997@telus.net> References: <200403291933.i2TJXoxc025370@orion.dwf.com> <40687F99.4040301@BaerSolutions.com> <200403291204.31334.a6a73997@telus.net> Message-ID: <406884D2.3020609@clara.co.uk> why dont you install Azureus and have normal gui to deal with torrent instead of writting short essays everytime U want to d/l something? Matt Walters wrote: > BitTorrent places the libraries in a subdirectory in some >arbitrarily-versioned Python subdir. Copy or symlink the files from the >arbitrarily-versioned Pythod subdir to whatever version of Python you have >installed and it will work fine (not that I had this exact issue, or >anything). > >-Matt > >On March 29, 2004 11:57 am, R. Scott Baer wrote: > > >>reg at dwf.com wrote: >> >> >>>Ive used BitTorrent to download Fedora before, but today I >>>just cant get the damn thing to work. >>> >>>Ive gone so far as to download a NEW version of the python >>>for FC1 and installed the RPM. >>> >>>I tried to add >>> application/x-bittorrent /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py >>> >>>to the Mozilla Edit->Preferences->Helper Applications list, and then >>>click on the line in the mailing-list message, but nothing, I get the >>>Download Manager popup, but then nothing else. >>> >>>OK, tried doing it by hand, I type >>> btdownloadcurses.py --url >>>http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC2-test2-binary-i3 86.torrent >>> >>>and I get the message: >>> >>>Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "/usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py", line 7, in ? >>> from BitTorrent.download import download >>>ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download >>> >>>So what the ???? is going on???? >>> >>> >>What version are you useing ?? >>I'm curretnly downloading with bittorrent-3.3-0.fdr.2.fc1 >>my python version is python-2.2.3-7 >>Im running on a fc1 >> >> > > > > -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From john at cepros.com Mon Mar 29 20:20:14 2004 From: john at cepros.com (John P. Mitchell) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:20:14 -0900 (AKST) Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <20040329201624.GB1181602@hiwaay.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net><20040329180306.GV31589@devserv.dev el.redhat.com><200403291314.43020.czar@czarc.net><200403291318.17206.c zar@czarc.net> <20040329201624.GB1181602@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <36743.192.168.1.10.1080591614.squirrel@localhost> Afternoon, I really do not like the way people here are treating Gene. Could be something really going wrong with his client? Maybe we should take people at their word and try and help instead? This is the reason I have alot of newbies tell me Linux users suck. > Once upon a time, Gene C. said: >> Worse yet, mirror.hiwaay.net has the SAME bad size for dvd. Too much to >> be >> coincidence. > > Problem between keyboard and monitor? They're of similar size here (and > I haven't touched them since initial sync): > > mirror:3:/data/mirror/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91$ ls -l > */iso/*DVD* > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 4306010112 Mar 25 15:56 > i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 4184965120 Mar 25 16:27 > x86_64/iso/FC2-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso > mirror:4:/data/mirror/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91$ > > -- > Chris Adams > Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services > I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Regards, John P. Mitchell Email Sticker: My Boss is a Jewish carpenter http://www.GoboLinux.org | User #00010110 From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 29 20:25:11 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:25:11 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <20040329200437.GW31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> <200403291318.17206.czar@czarc.net> <20040329200437.GW31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403291525.11957.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 29 March 2004 15:04, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > Then it looks like a problem in the client: Yes, I looked again and you are correct ... another bug in gftp. I will report it upstream. -- Gene From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon Mar 29 20:25:55 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:25:55 -0500 Subject: console beep missing In-Reply-To: <20040329185634.GC4223@rednote.net> References: <200403270205.i2R25lp08347@rgmgw6.us.oracle.com> <20040327210622.GF4451@rednote.net> <1080421940.1680.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040328184530.GC28426@rednote.net> <20040329060321.GA2493@jadzia.bu.edu> <20040329185634.GC4223@rednote.net> Message-ID: <20040329202555.GA3225@jadzia.bu.edu> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:56:35PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > So, back to the original question -- what's the right way to put the beep > back? And, where's the doc for it. I think the right way is for there to be an /etc/sysconfig setting somewhere asking if this module should be loaded. This could be either a specific pc-speaker thing, or a more general mechanism for all modules which should be loaded at boot time. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From cmadams at hiwaay.net Mon Mar 29 20:29:53 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:29:53 -0600 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <36743.192.168.1.10.1080591614.squirrel@localhost> References: <20040329201624.GB1181602@hiwaay.net> <36743.192.168.1.10.1080591614.squirrel@localhost> Message-ID: <20040329202953.GC1181602@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, John P. Mitchell said: > I really do not like the way people here are treating Gene. Could be > something really going wrong with his client? Maybe we should take > people at their word and try and help instead? This is the reason I > have alot of newbies tell me Linux users suck. What do you want me to say? I'm the mirror admin for mirror.hiwaay.net. He is seeing something from my mirror that I do not see (either via shell or FTP) and he's seeing it from another mirror as well. The logical assumption then is that there is a problem at his end. However, from this I have (I think) discovered a bug in Apache. I don't serve the ISOs via HTTP (because Apache tends to do odd things with large files). However, if I go to that directory and get the generated directory listing, it doesn't include the DVD. I bet Apache is using 32 (or 31) bits for file sizes; at least it just skips the file it can't handle (instead of crashing). -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From reg at dwf.com Mon Mar 29 20:32:28 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:32:28 -0700 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: Message from Matt Walters of "Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:11:58 PST." <200403291211.58735.a6a73997@telus.net> Message-ID: <200403292032.i2TKWS68026239@orion.dwf.com> > On March 29, 2004 12:04 pm, Matt Walters wrote: > > BitTorrent places the libraries in a subdirectory in some > > arbitrarily-versioned Python subdir. Copy or symlink the files from the > > arbitrarily-versioned Pythod subdir to whatever version of Python you have > > installed and it will work fine (not that I had this exact issue, or > > anything). > > I suppose I could be more specific: > > BitTorrent places the "libraries" it needs > in /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/BitTorrent (at least, that's where they > lived on my machine). I copied /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/BitTorrent/ > to /usr/lib/python-2.3/site-packages/ (since 2.3 is the version I have > installed) and it worked fine. > > -Matt > Yes, I understood what you were saying the first time around. I tried removing the /usr/lib/python-2.2 libraries, and reinstalling, and it just rebuilt them. So I did what you suggested here, moved the stuff from 2.2 -> 2.3 and its working fine. Thanks. -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From jakub at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 20:34:43 2004 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:34:43 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <20040329202953.GC1181602@hiwaay.net> References: <20040329201624.GB1181602@hiwaay.net> <36743.192.168.1.10.1080591614.squirrel@localhost> <20040329202953.GC1181602@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <20040329203441.GX31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 02:29:53PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > What do you want me to say? I'm the mirror admin for mirror.hiwaay.net. > He is seeing something from my mirror that I do not see (either via > shell or FTP) and he's seeing it from another mirror as well. The > logical assumption then is that there is a problem at his end. > > However, from this I have (I think) discovered a bug in Apache. I don't > serve the ISOs via HTTP (because Apache tends to do odd things with > large files). However, if I go to that directory and get the generated > directory listing, it doesn't include the DVD. I bet Apache is using 32 > (or 31) bits for file sizes; at least it just skips the file it can't > handle (instead of crashing). My guess is it stat/lstat's the file, which on 32-bit platform of course fails (stat64/lstat64 would succeed). Please file a bugzilla bug. Jakub From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 29 20:35:45 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:35:45 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <20040329202953.GC1181602@hiwaay.net> References: <20040329201624.GB1181602@hiwaay.net> <36743.192.168.1.10.1080591614.squirrel@localhost> <20040329202953.GC1181602@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <200403291535.45946.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 29 March 2004 15:29, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, John P. Mitchell said: > > I really do not like the way people here are treating Gene. Could be > > something really going wrong with his client? Maybe we should take > > people at their word and try and help instead? This is the reason I > > have alot of newbies tell me Linux users suck. > > What do you want me to say? I'm the mirror admin for mirror.hiwaay.net. > He is seeing something from my mirror that I do not see (either via > shell or FTP) and he's seeing it from another mirror as well. The > logical assumption then is that there is a problem at his end. > > However, from this I have (I think) discovered a bug in Apache. I don't > serve the ISOs via HTTP (because Apache tends to do odd things with > large files). However, if I go to that directory and get the generated > directory listing, it doesn't include the DVD. I bet Apache is using 32 > (or 31) bits for file sizes; at least it just skips the file it can't > handle (instead of crashing). I check a couple other sites (using lftp since I cannot trust gftp) and they do not have the dvd iso even though ftp access to their sitee does show it. -- Gene From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Mon Mar 29 20:37:08 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:37:08 +0200 Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? Message-ID: <1080592628.2921.10.camel@gandalf.wms-network.de> On Monday 29 March 2004 2:12 pm, George Garvey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:52:47PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > Is there a problem with my /etc/fstab? Notice the last 2 lines above. I > > have 2 rpc_pipefs mounts. > > > > /etc/fstab says: > > > > none /var/lib/rpc_pipes rpc_pipefs defaults 0 0 > > none /proc/fs/nfs nfsd noauto,defaults 0 0 > > Mounting /proc/fs/nfs just solved my problem. Note that fstab says don't > do it automatically. Is it actually mounted now? Hi, I have exactly the same problem (as I posted yesterday) and I tried these changes as well, with no luck :-( When I run "cat /proc/fs/nfs/exports" i get this: /home client1(rw,root_squash,sync,wdelay) /home client2(rw,root_squash,sync,wdelay) /usr/local/share 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,root_squash,sync,wdelay) But my /etc/exports says: /usr/local/share 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(sync,rw) /home 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(sync,rw) This seems to be out of sync?! Even the restart of the nfs service or running "exportfs -a" is not changing this. Could this deal with the problem? Regards, Chris From john at cepros.com Mon Mar 29 20:42:16 2004 From: john at cepros.com (John P. Mitchell) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:42:16 -0900 (AKST) Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <20040329202953.GC1181602@hiwaay.net> References: <20040329201624.GB1181602@hiwaay.net><36743.192.168.1.10.1080591614.sq uirrel@localhost> <20040329202953.GC1181602@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <36860.192.168.1.10.1080592936.squirrel@localhost> Chris, > Once upon a time, John P. Mitchell said: >> I really do not like the way people here are treating Gene. Could be >> something really going wrong with his client? Maybe we should take >> people at their word and try and help instead? This is the reason I >> have alot of newbies tell me Linux users suck. > > What do you want me to say? I'm the mirror admin for mirror.hiwaay.net. > He is seeing something from my mirror that I do not see (either via > shell or FTP) and he's seeing it from another mirror as well. The > logical assumption then is that there is a problem at his end. I would like to see people ask constructive questions without making off hand comments like "Problem between keyboard and monitor?". This is not constructive, it is destructive to the community. This is a person trying to figure out what is going on and trying to test. Very beneficial to the process of testing. > > However, from this I have (I think) discovered a bug in Apache. I don't > serve the ISOs via HTTP (because Apache tends to do odd things with > large files). However, if I go to that directory and get the generated > directory listing, it doesn't include the DVD. I bet Apache is using 32 > (or 31) bits for file sizes; at least it just skips the file it can't > handle (instead of crashing). Hmm.. So something besides "Problem between keyboard and monitor?" going on. > > -- > Chris Adams > Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services > I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Regards, John P. Mitchell Email Sticker: My Boss is a Jewish carpenter http://www.GoboLinux.org | User #00010110 From reg at dwf.com Mon Mar 29 20:54:34 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:54:34 -0700 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: Message from Bart Kalita of "Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:19:30 +0100." <406884D2.3020609@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <200403292054.i2TKsZsK026594@orion.dwf.com> > > why dont you install Azureus and have normal gui to deal with torrent > instead of writting short essays everytime U want to d/l something? > Im up and running now, but Ill put it on my list of things to try next time. But thats probably going to require that I go get Java someplace, and then run down THAT set of problems .. To bad its not written in a 'real' language... Thanks -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From rhally at mindspring.com Mon Mar 29 20:59:12 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:59:12 -0500 Subject: fedora.us FC2 test2 1.91 repository status In-Reply-To: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> References: <406810A8.7090902@redhat.com> Message-ID: <40688E20.3070608@mindspring.com> Warren Togami wrote: > Be warned that upgrading from FC2 test1 to test2 using apt/yum will > not result in a system fully representative of test2 due to selinux > not being enabled and filesystem not labeled. You should either use > the test2 Anaconda installer or figure out the manual labeling > procedure (where is the URL for that?). > > Warren > > Is there anything else (besides the filesystem labeling) that is in test2 that is not in the /development tree? One thing in particular is the "/etc/sysconfig/selinux" that is mentioned in the Fedora SELinux-FAQ. Another is the "fixfiles" also mentioned there. Richard Hally From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Mar 29 21:00:50 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:00:50 -0500 Subject: RPM tree as torrent? In-Reply-To: <40688372.2070509@po.cwru.edu> References: <40688372.2070509@po.cwru.edu> Message-ID: <1080594050.2963.7.camel@binkley> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 15:13 -0500, Ravi Shekhar wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know if I'm the only one, but I much prefer to download the > /i386/os directory and set up a local mirror to do an FTP install. > Bittorrent can handle multiple files easily, and it seems like it would > take some load off the servers. I don't mind seeding it as soon as I'm > done, I'm on a university T3 line. But at the current rate, it will take > 6 hours for me to get directory from ibiblio. I haven't found a faster > mirror. They're all overloaded. > Download the isos via bittorrent and expand them out. -sv From vherva at viasys.com Mon Mar 29 21:10:12 2004 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:10:12 +0300 Subject: "FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0'" after xorg transition In-Reply-To: <20040328185055.GO20358@viasys.com> References: <20040328185055.GO20358@viasys.com> Message-ID: <20040329211012.GR20358@viasys.com> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 09:50:55PM +0300, you [Ville Herva] wrote: > I just moved to xorg-x11 (thanks to all fedora-test-list members for the > hints on how to do that painlessly.) I went pretty smoothly. > > I have one problem, though. After the transition, I get these: > > FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for '/mnt/msdos/winnt/Fonts/lucon.ttf' > FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for '/mnt/msdos/winnt/Fonts/lucon.ttf' > > And font "lucida console" (a Windows font) no longer works. I've tried > recreate the font caches (mkfontdir, fc-cache -f, service xfs restart), but > it doesn't seem to depend on that. > > Any idea what could cause that or how to fix it? The problem was that ttmkfdir segfaults when I do "service xfs restart". In fact, it segfaults when I run it in any truetype font directory, and as fonts.scale is missing, no ttf fonts are available. I recreated the fonts.scale files by copying the ttf font dirs to a backup snapshot directory from couple of days ago, chrooting there and running ttmkfdir manually. After this, I get the ttf fonts back. I don't know what the difference is. Crashing current installation: >ldd /usr/bin/ttmkfdir linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x4d33c000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4d2f4000) libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x4d425000) libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x4d1d9000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x4d410000) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x4d0bc000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4d0a4000) > ldd /usr/bin/ttmkfdir | gawk '{print $3}' | xargs rpm -qf freetype-2.1.7-3 zlib-1.2.1.1-2.1 libstdc++-3.3.3-3 glibc-2.3.3-18 libgcc-3.3.3-2.1 libgcc-3.3.3-3 glibc-2.3.3-18 glibc-2.3.3-18 Working snapshot: freetype-2.1.7-3 zlib-1.2.1.1-2.1 libstdc++-3.3.3-2.1 libgcc-3.3.3-2.1 I tried LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/backup-versioned/2004-03-19T052000/usr/lib:/backup-versioned/2004-03-19T052000/lib ttmkfdir but it still crashes. gdb is not overly helpful: (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/ttmkfdir (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x080555a9 in std::basic_string, std::allocator > std::operator+, std::allocator >(std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&) () (gdb) bt #0 0x080555a9 in std::basic_string, std::allocator > std::operator+, std::allocator >(std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&) () #1 0x080541f9 in std::basic_string, std::allocator > std::operator+, std::allocator >(std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&) () #2 0x0805445c in std::basic_string, std::allocator > std::operator+, std::allocator >(std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&) () #3 0x0804fa4d in std::basic_string, std::allocator > std::operator+, std::allocator >(std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&) () #4 0x0804b0fe in ?? () #5 0x4d0d0eb3 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 #6 0x08049d91 in ?? () -- v -- v at iki.fi From vherva at viasys.com Mon Mar 29 21:11:28 2004 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:11:28 +0300 Subject: "FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0'" after xorg transition In-Reply-To: <20040328185055.GO20358@viasys.com> References: <20040328185055.GO20358@viasys.com> Message-ID: <20040329211128.GS20358@viasys.com> On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 09:50:55PM +0300, you [Ville Herva] wrote: > I just moved to xorg-x11 (thanks to all fedora-test-list members for the > hints on how to do that painlessly.) I went pretty smoothly. > > I have one problem, though. After the transition, I get these: > > FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for '/mnt/msdos/winnt/Fonts/lucon.ttf' > FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for '/mnt/msdos/winnt/Fonts/lucon.ttf' > > And font "lucida console" (a Windows font) no longer works. I've tried > recreate the font caches (mkfontdir, fc-cache -f, service xfs restart), but > it doesn't seem to depend on that. > > Any idea what could cause that or how to fix it? Apart from the /usr/bin/ttmkfdir glitch, antialiased fonts look worse than they used to with XFree86. Some fonts are not antialiased at all. Has anyone else experienced this? -- v -- v at iki.fi From jfm512 at free.fr Mon Mar 29 21:11:47 2004 From: jfm512 at free.fr (Jean Francois Martinez) Date: 29 Mar 2004 23:11:47 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke Message-ID: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Let's summarize: 1) CD doesn't boot, no it is not the computer it has booted from CD hundreds of times, it is not the ISO I checksummed it and it is not the CD since I reburned it After burning the boot.iso contained in CD1 and booting from it I find 2) If I select "install from CD" it prompts me for a driver. For an IDE CD reader. And if I try to select one of the proposed drivers it proposes neither the plain driver for IDE, or the driver for the SCSI card controlling my CD burner. The only thing it proposes is drivers for Raid cards and similar equipment used by MARTIANS. 3) If I select "install from hard disk" it also prompts me for a driver for my perfectly normal IDE disks. And it also proposes exotic equipment who doesn't exist on planet earth where most people don't use RAID 4) If I select "install from NFS" it also prompts me for an ethrnet driver (despite having found and loaded the driver for my ethernet card like evidenced by switching console) and guess what? It does not propose the driver for my card, yes that one it had loaded, and AFAIK one who is found in very shop. At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one doesn't even start it. -- Jean Francois Martinez From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 29 21:11:49 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:11:49 -0500 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <200403291525.11957.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291259.46211.czar@czarc.net> <20040329200437.GW31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403291525.11957.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <200403291611.49294.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 29 March 2004 15:25, Gene C. wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2004 15:04, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > Then it looks like a problem in the client: > > Yes, I looked again and you are correct ... another bug in gftp. > > I will report it upstream. I reported the problem upstream and he (Brian Masney) replied that he is not seeing the problem with the current version of gftp (2.0.17). I will give that a try to see if it fixes the problem. Since both FC1 and FC2-Test2 have gftp-2.0.16, they likely have the problem too (I am using gftp-2.0.17pre0). In that case, I will also file a bugzilla report to get gftp updated. -- Gene From bcs at metacon.ca Mon Mar 29 21:15:46 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:15:46 -0400 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:11, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > doesn't even start it. It sounds more like you have some seriously wonky equipment. Has this machine ever run a Linux distro before? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From whb at ceimaine.org Mon Mar 29 21:26:16 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:26:16 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1080595576.9565.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:15 -0400, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:11, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > > released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > > doesn't even start it. Could people report success and hardware specs also? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From jfm512 at free.fr Mon Mar 29 21:54:51 2004 From: jfm512 at free.fr (Jean Francois Martinez) Date: 29 Mar 2004 23:54:51 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1080597291.1594.62.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 23:15, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:11, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > > released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > > doesn't even start it. > > It sounds more like you have some seriously wonky equipment. Has this > machine ever run a Linux distro before? > This machine has been running Linux since its birth in 1999. It ran FC1, FC2 test 1, everything. It has perfectly standard equipment and it isn't a problem of equipment when the installer in boot.iso does not support IDE disks like used by 99.999999999999 % of Earthers, and it isn't a problem of equipment when the installer in boot.iso is forcing you to choose an ethernet driver (from a list of exotic cards you don't have) because it is too stupid to notice that your card has been detected and its driver (via-rhine) successfully loaded. And it refuses to go further since of course loading any driver from the list will fail. > -- > Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 > http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves -- Jean Francois Martinez From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Mar 29 21:55:28 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:55:28 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <1080597328.1235.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 29/03/2004 ? 23:11, Jean Francois Martinez a ?crit : > Let's summarize: > > [...] > > 3) If I select "install from hard disk" it also prompts me for a driver > for my perfectly normal IDE disks. And it also proposes exotic > equipment who doesn't exist on planet earth where most people don't > use RAID Same here. It worked with RH8.0, RH9 and FC1. However, no major problem with "install from CD". > [...] > -- > Jean Francois Martinez > From jdy at cs.brown.edu Mon Mar 29 21:58:45 2004 From: jdy at cs.brown.edu (Joel Young) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:58:45 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: Your message of "29 Mar 2004 23:54:51 +0200." <1080597291.1594.62.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> <1080597291.1594.62.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <20040329215846.04AB0FAA3@void.cs.brown.edu> From: Jean Francois Martinez > FC1, FC2 test 1, everything. It has perfectly standard equipment and > it isn't a problem of equipment when the installer in boot.iso does not > support IDE disks like used by 99.999999999999 % of Earthers, and it So why don't you list your equipment so maybe someone could fix the problem or see a pattern? Joel From bartk at clara.co.uk Mon Mar 29 22:23:47 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:23:47 +0100 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: <200403292054.i2TKsZsK026594@orion.dwf.com> References: <200403292054.i2TKsZsK026594@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <4068A1F3.1040007@clara.co.uk> Well, I consider installing Java one of the first things to do on a clean install. and the proces is not that hard: http://home.bredband.no/gaulyk/java/tutorial/javaredhat.html reg at dwf.com wrote: >>why dont you install Azureus and have normal gui to deal with torrent >>instead of writting short essays everytime U want to d/l something? >> >> >> >Im up and running now, but Ill put it on my list of things to try >next time. But thats probably going to require that I go get Java someplace, >and then run down THAT set of problems .. To bad its not written in a >'real' language... > >Thanks > > -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org From pauln at truemesh.com Mon Mar 29 22:23:19 2004 From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:23:19 +0000 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: <4068A1F3.1040007@clara.co.uk> References: <200403292054.i2TKsZsK026594@orion.dwf.com> <4068A1F3.1040007@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <20040329222317.GR15672@lichen.truemesh.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 11:23:47PM +0100, Bart Kalita wrote: > Well, I consider installing Java one of the first things to do on a > clean install. > and the proces is not that hard: > http://home.bredband.no/gaulyk/java/tutorial/javaredhat.html If you are writing a tutorial - please consider jpackage too: http://jpackage.org Paul From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Mar 29 22:34:04 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:34:04 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329215846.04AB0FAA3@void.cs.brown.edu> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> <1080597291.1594.62.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329215846.04AB0FAA3@void.cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: <1080599644.1235.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 29/03/2004 ? 23:58, Joel Young a ?crit : > From: Jean Francois Martinez > > FC1, FC2 test 1, everything. It has perfectly standard equipment and > > it isn't a problem of equipment when the installer in boot.iso does not > > support IDE disks like used by 99.999999999999 % of Earthers, and it > > So why don't you list your equipment so maybe someone could fix the > problem or see a pattern? > I have the same problem (install from hard disk). lspci : 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333] 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] 00:05.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366/368/370/370A/372 (rev 03) 00:06.0 Multimedia controller: Sigma Designs, Inc. REALmagic Hollywood Plus DVD Decoder (rev 02) 00:07.0 ATM network controller: STMicroelectronics ST70137 [Unicorn] ADSL DMT Transceiver (rev 10) 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) 00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt848 Video Capture (rev 12) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 10) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC AGP (rev 7a) /dev/hda is connected to "00:11.1". dmesg : [...] VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:11.1 VP_IDE: chipset revision 6 VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later VP_IDE: VIA vt8233 (rev 00) IDE UDMA100 controller on pci0000:00:11.1 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc00-0xfc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc08-0xfc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive [...] hda: max request size: 128KiB hda: 160086528 sectors (81964 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 [...] See attachment for the full dmesg. It come from a custom kernel (2.6.4-1.290.custom). The dmesg from anaconda is very (too?) small and not useful. See attachment for the full /root/install.log.syslog after the installation from CD has done. "Install from CD" work. Is there something I should file in bugzilla ? > Joel > -------------- next part -------------- Linux version 2.6.4-1.290.custom (fmatias at localhost.localdomain) (gcc version 3.3.3 20040311 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-3)) #1 Mon Mar 29 06:06:03 CEST 2004 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000020000000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fff80000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 512MB LOWMEM available. found SMP MP-table at 000fb880 On node 0 totalpages: 131072 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 126976 pages, LIFO batch:16 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.3 present. Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.4 Virtual Wire compatibility mode. OEM ID: VIA Product ID: VT5440B APIC at: 0xFEE00000 Processor #0 6:6 APIC version 17 I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC00000. Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs Processors: 1 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/hda2 ide=reverse nousb ide_setup: ide=reverse : Enabled support for IDE inverse scan order. current: c0252a60 current->thread_info: c0284000 Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order 12: 32768 bytes) Detected 1405.557 MHz processor. Using tsc for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Memory: 516420k/524288k available (1191k kernel code, 7104k reserved, 355k data, 136k init, 0k highmem) zapping low mappings. Calibrating delay loop... 2768.89 BogoMIPS Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff c1cbfbff 00000000 00000000 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383fbff c1cbfbff 00000000 00000000 CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line) CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff c1cbfbff 00000000 00000020 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ stepping 02 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000 ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000 ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs Setting 2 in the phys_id_present_map ...changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 2 ... ok. init IO_APIC IRQs IO-APIC (apicid-pin) 2-0, 2-3, 2-10, 2-11, 2-20, 2-21, 2-22, 2-23 not connected. ..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=0 number of MP IRQ sources: 20. number of IO-APIC #2 registers: 24. testing the IO APIC....................... IO APIC #2...... .... register #00: 02000000 ....... : physical APIC id: 02 ....... : Delivery Type: 0 ....... : LTS : 0 .... register #01: 00178011 ....... : max redirection entries: 0017 ....... : PRQ implemented: 1 ....... : IO APIC version: 0011 .... register #02: 00000000 ....... : arbitration: 00 .... IRQ redirection table: NR Log Phy Mask Trig IRR Pol Stat Dest Deli Vect: 00 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 01 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 39 02 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 31 03 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 04 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 41 05 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 49 06 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 51 07 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 59 08 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 61 09 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 69 0a 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0b 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0c 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 71 0d 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 79 0e 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 81 0f 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 89 10 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 91 11 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 99 12 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 A1 13 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 A9 14 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 15 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 16 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 17 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 IRQ to pin mappings: IRQ0 -> 0:2 IRQ1 -> 0:1 IRQ4 -> 0:4 IRQ5 -> 0:5 IRQ6 -> 0:6 IRQ7 -> 0:7 IRQ8 -> 0:8 IRQ12 -> 0:12 IRQ13 -> 0:13 IRQ14 -> 0:14 IRQ15 -> 0:15 IRQ16 -> 0:16 IRQ17 -> 0:17 IRQ18 -> 0:18 IRQ19 -> 0:19 IRQ25 -> 0:9 .................................... done. Using local APIC timer interrupts. calibrating APIC timer ... ..... CPU clock speed is 1404.0809 MHz. ..... host bus clock speed is 267.0582 MHz. NET: Registered protocol family 16 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I5,P0) -> 16 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I6,P0) -> 17 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I7,P0) -> 18 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I8,P0) -> 19 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I9,P0) -> 16 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I17,P2) -> 25 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B1,I0,P0) -> 16 Initializing Cryptographic API Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:11.1 VP_IDE: chipset revision 6 VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later VP_IDE: VIA vt8233 (rev 00) IDE UDMA100 controller on pci0000:00:11.1 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc00-0xfc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc08-0xfc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive Using deadline io scheduler ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 hdc: SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-240B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: CREATIVE DVD-ROM DVD1243E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 HPT370: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:05.0 HPT370: chipset revision 3 HPT37X: using 33MHz PCI clock HPT370: 100% native mode on irq 16 ide2: BM-DMA at 0xdc00-0xdc07, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio ide3: BM-DMA at 0xdc08-0xdc0f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio hde: Maxtor 90340D2, ATA DISK drive ide2 at 0xec00-0xec07,0xe802 on irq 16 hdg: Maxtor 90340D2, ATA DISK drive ide3 at 0xe400-0xe407,0xe002 on irq 16 hda: max request size: 128KiB hda: 160086528 sectors (81964 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hde: max request size: 128KiB hde: 6640704 sectors (3400 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=6588/16/63, (U)DMA hde: hde1 hde2 hde3 hdg: max request size: 128KiB hdg: 6640704 sectors (3400 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=6588/16/63, (U)DMA hdg: hdg1 hdg2 hdg3 mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2 md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 32Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536) NET: Registered protocol family 1 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: considering hdg3 ... md: adding hdg3 ... md: adding hde3 ... md: created md0 md: bind md: bind md: running: md0: setting max_sectors to 64, segment boundary to 16383 raid0: looking at hdg3 raid0: comparing hdg3(3163008) with hdg3(3163008) raid0: END raid0: ==> UNIQUE raid0: 1 zones raid0: looking at hde3 raid0: comparing hde3(3163008) with hdg3(3163008) raid0: EQUAL raid0: FINAL 1 zones raid0: done. raid0 : md_size is 6326016 blocks. raid0 : conf->hash_spacing is 6326016 blocks. raid0 : nb_zone is 1. raid0 : Allocating 4 bytes for hash. md: ... autorun DONE. try_name("hda2", 0) try_name("hda", 2) kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 136k freed Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 EXT3 FS on hda2, internal journal Adding 129016k swap on /dev/hde2. Priority:5 extents:1 Adding 129016k swap on /dev/hdg2. Priority:5 extents:1 Adding 325072k swap on /dev/hda3. Priority:4 extents:1 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on md0, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. hdc: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 8192kB Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, UDMA(33) -------------- next part -------------- <86>Mar 29 10:55:13 groupadd[228]: new group: name=rpm, gid=37 <86>Mar 29 10:55:14 useradd[229]: new user: name=rpm, uid=37, gid=37, home=/var/lib/rpm, shell=/sbin/nologin <86>Mar 29 10:55:17 groupadd[237]: new group: name=floppy, gid=19 <86>Mar 29 10:55:18 useradd[238]: new group: name=vcsa, gid=69 <86>Mar 29 10:55:18 useradd[238]: new user: name=vcsa, uid=69, gid=69, home=/dev, shell=/sbin/nologin <86>Mar 29 10:56:09 groupadd[273]: new group: name=utmp, gid=22 <86>Mar 29 10:57:28 groupadd[517]: new group: name=slocate, gid=21 <86>Mar 29 10:57:38 useradd[539]: new group: name=nscd, gid=28 <86>Mar 29 10:57:38 useradd[539]: new user: name=nscd, uid=28, gid=28, home=/, shell=/sbin/nologin <86>Mar 29 10:57:54 useradd[589]: new group: name=sshd, gid=74 <86>Mar 29 10:57:54 useradd[589]: new user: name=sshd, uid=74, gid=74, home=/var/empty/sshd, shell=/sbin/nologin <86>Mar 29 10:57:55 groupadd[596]: new group: name=rpc, gid=32 <86>Mar 29 10:57:56 useradd[597]: new user: name=rpc, uid=32, gid=32, home=/, shell=/sbin/nologin <86>Mar 29 10:57:56 useradd[599]: new group: name=rpcuser, gid=29 <86>Mar 29 10:57:56 useradd[599]: new user: name=rpcuser, uid=29, gid=29, home=/var/lib/nfs, shell=/sbin/nologin <86>Mar 29 10:57:57 useradd[603]: new group: name=nfsnobody, gid=65534 <86>Mar 29 10:57:57 useradd[603]: new user: name=nfsnobody, uid=65534, gid=65534, home=/var/lib/nfs, shell=/sbin/nologin <86>Mar 29 10:57:59 groupadd[611]: new group: name=pcap, gid=77 <86>Mar 29 10:58:00 useradd[612]: new user: name=pcap, uid=77, gid=77, home=/var/arpwatch, shell=/sbin/nologin <86>Mar 29 10:58:04 useradd[634]: new group: name=mailnull, gid=47 <86>Mar 29 10:58:04 useradd[634]: new user: name=mailnull, uid=47, gid=47, home=/var/spool/mqueue, shell=/sbin/nologin <86>Mar 29 10:58:06 useradd[635]: new group: name=smmsp, gid=51 <86>Mar 29 10:58:06 useradd[635]: new user: name=smmsp, uid=51, gid=51, home=/var/spool/mqueue, shell=/sbin/nologin <21>Mar 29 03:58:07 sendmail[645]: alias database /etc/aliases rebuilt by root <22>Mar 29 03:58:07 sendmail[645]: /etc/aliases: 69 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 679 bytes total <13>Mar 29 10:58:17 kudzu: sound-slot-0 associ? ? l'alias snd-via82xx <13>Mar 29 10:58:17 kudzu: sound-slot-1 associ? ? l'alias snd-ens1371 <13>Mar 29 10:58:17 kudzu: char-major-81 associ? ? l'alias bttv From alan at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 22:44:27 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:44:27 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > doesn't even start it. Statistical value of one sample -> nil. Please file a bug and include hw info so we can work out why it fails in your case. From fedora-list at planetmirror.com Mon Mar 29 22:46:38 2004 From: fedora-list at planetmirror.com (Dan Goodes) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:46:38 +1000 (EST) Subject: DVD iso too big ? In-Reply-To: <1080582877.1436.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080581662.1436.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4068612F.3060109@clara.co.uk> <1080582877.1436.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 at 19:54, Matias Feliciano wrote: > FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso size is 4306010112 (more than 4Go) but httpd > server indicate only 11042816 (~ 11Mo). Apache HTTPD has a (long standing) issue with large files. I run a mirror site (planetmirror.com) and have found that Rsync is the only reliable way to download the file successfully. Having said that, some FTP servers also allegedly work. Regards, Dan Goodes : Systems Programmer : dang at planetmirror.com Help support PlanetMirror - Australia's largest Internet archive by signing up for PlanetMirror Premium : http://planetmirror.com From efthym at gmx.net Mon Mar 29 22:53:18 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:53:18 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux Message-ID: Hi List, I read in a previous posting that upgrading to T2 through yum will not enforce the SELinux policies. Does this apply to upgrading through the iso's as well ? Do I have to do a clean install to use SELinux ? Thanx From ckloiber at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 23:05:02 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:05:02 +0800 Subject: HP zv5000z AMD64 FC2 Test 2 Install fails In-Reply-To: <30992320.1080589117373.JavaMail.root@wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> References: <30992320.1080589117373.JavaMail.root@wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1080601502.10739.81.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 03:38, Brian Stretch wrote: > Update: > > FC1 AMD64 installs on this HP zv5000z Athlon 64 nForce3 chipset > notebook so long as I use idle=poll. However, FC2 Test 2, attempted > via boot CD and local NFS server with the four binary CD images, > says "no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems" > after I select manual partitioning with Disk Druid. Then it reboots. > I tried acpi=off selinux=0 just for laughs, no diff. Anyone have any > ideas before I bugzilla this? > > It can't detect the "mouse" either, which is an ALPS keypad, and I > didn't see an option to manually select it like I could with FC1. I reported that about a week ago, feel free to add info... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118941 -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From czar at czarc.net Mon Mar 29 23:21:30 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:21:30 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403291821.30678.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 29 March 2004 17:53, Efthym wrote: > I read in a previous posting that upgrading to T2 through yum will not > enforce the SELinux policies. Does this apply to upgrading through the > iso's as well ? Do I have to do a clean install to use SELinux ? I would recommend a clean install. The differences (especialy relating to selinux) between Test1 and Test2 are significant and very easily screwed up. In addition, there is the whole business of Xfree86 -> xorg-x11 adds more complexity. -- Gene From cra at WPI.EDU Mon Mar 29 23:24:45 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:24:45 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040329232445.GN1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 05:53:18PM -0500, Efthym wrote: > Hi List, > > I read in a previous posting that upgrading to T2 through yum will not > enforce the SELinux policies. Does this apply to upgrading through the > iso's as well ? Do I have to do a clean install to use SELinux ? Yes. This will be the case for the final FC2, also, I'm told. Upgrading to SELinux is too hard. From netopml at newview.com Mon Mar 29 23:25:06 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 29 Mar 2004 18:25:06 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: <20040329232445.GN1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <20040329232445.GN1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: cra at WPI.EDU ("Charles R. Anderson") writes: > Upgrading to SELinux is too hard. Not it's not. You install both policy and checkpolicy rpms, you reboot. You run "fixfiles relabel", you reboot one more time and you're done. And it's all in the FAQ whose url was given prior and in the release notes... -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Mar 29 23:34:12 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:34:12 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1080603252.1444.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mar 30/03/2004 ? 00:44, Alan Cox a ?crit : > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > > released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > > doesn't even start it. > > Statistical value of one sample -> nil. > Two samples -> 2*nil :-) > Please file a bug and include hw info so we can work out why it fails > in your case. > It seems the "linux askmethod" is buggy for, at least, "local CD-ROM" and "hard drive" This is the messages i got from console three when i chose "local CD-ROM" : devices[0] is SAMSUNG CD-R/RW .... - hdc using ignore (not loaded) devices[1] is CREATIVE DVD-ROM ... - hdd using ignore (not loaded) And when a chose "hard disk" : devices[0] is Maxtor ... -hda using ignore (not loaded) devices[1] is Maxtor ... -hde using ignore (not loaded) devices[2] is Maxtor ... -hdg using ignore (not loaded) Is this enough to file a bug ? Should i include "lspci -v" or dmidecode ? From notting at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 23:38:58 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:38:58 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080603252.1444.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080603252.1444.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040329233858.GA12410@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Matias Feliciano (feliciano.matias at free.fr) said: > Is this enough to file a bug ? http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 Bill From res at ausics.net Mon Mar 29 23:47:17 2004 From: res at ausics.net (Res) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:47:17 +1000 (EST) Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: References: <20040329232445.GN1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Mar 2004 netopml at newview.com wrote: > cra at WPI.EDU ("Charles R. Anderson") writes: > > Upgrading to SELinux is too hard. > > Not it's not. You install both policy and checkpolicy rpms, you reboot. You > run "fixfiles relabel", you reboot one more time and you're done. And it's > all in the FAQ whose url was given prior and in the release notes... > instlal reboot, change setting reboot, sounds more like windows every f'in day -- Regards, Res From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Mar 29 23:49:00 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:49:00 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329233858.GA12410@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080603252.1444.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040329233858.GA12410@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1080604140.1444.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mar 30/03/2004 ? 01:38, Bill Nottingham a ?crit : > Matias Feliciano (feliciano.matias at free.fr) said: > > Is this enough to file a bug ? > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 > I Forget to search through bugzilla with "version = devel". Thanks. > Bill > From ckloiber at redhat.com Mon Mar 29 23:52:29 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:52:29 +0800 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329233858.GA12410@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080603252.1444.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040329233858.GA12410@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1080604349.12495.1.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 07:38, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Matias Feliciano (feliciano.matias at free.fr) said: > > Is this enough to file a bug ? > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 > > Bill Is bug# 118941 related? -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From netopml at newview.com Mon Mar 29 23:50:55 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 29 Mar 2004 18:50:55 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: res at ausics.net (Res) writes: > > Not it's not. You install both policy and checkpolicy rpms, you reboot. You > > run "fixfiles relabel", you reboot one more time and you're done. And it's > > all in the FAQ whose url was given prior and in the release notes... > > > > instlal reboot, change setting reboot, sounds more like windows every f'in > day To be frank, the last one is optional, it's just recommended (as per FAQ). I'm not even sure the first one is needed, it's just that I haven't look if there's a way to start selinux on any running system... -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From asantos at progress.com Tue Mar 30 00:01:47 2004 From: asantos at progress.com (Alan Santos) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:01:47 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> I'm one more sample with a problem when partitioning, and a reference to bugzilla for another. But calling it a joke is too inflammatory and insulting to the people who have spent many hours working on it so far. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118941 Alan Cox wrote: >>At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a >>released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one >>doesn't even start it. >> >> > >Statistical value of one sample -> nil. > >Please file a bug and include hw info so we can work out why it fails >in your case. > > > > From cra at WPI.EDU Tue Mar 30 00:03:53 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:03:53 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: References: <20040329232445.GN1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <20040330000353.GO1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 06:25:06PM -0500, netopml at newview.com wrote: > cra at WPI.EDU ("Charles R. Anderson") writes: > > Upgrading to SELinux is too hard. > > Not it's not. You install both policy and checkpolicy rpms, you reboot. You > run "fixfiles relabel", you reboot one more time and you're done. And it's > all in the FAQ whose url was given prior and in the release notes... I was referring to doing this from within Anaconda. This is what I heard a while back. From efthym at gmx.net Tue Mar 30 00:05:33 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:05:33 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: <200403291821.30678.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403291821.30678.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: I've got FC2 test1 with all updates installed (including xorg). I'm doing a backup now (just in case) and I think I'll try the upgrade just for kicks. I'll post the results later. On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:21:30 -0500, Gene C. wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2004 17:53, Efthym wrote: >> I read in a previous posting that upgrading to T2 through yum will not >> enforce the SELinux policies. Does this apply to upgrading through the >> iso's as well ? Do I have to do a clean install to use SELinux ? > > I would recommend a clean install. The differences (especialy relating > to > selinux) between Test1 and Test2 are significant and very easily screwed > up. > In addition, there is the whole business of Xfree86 -> xorg-x11 adds more > complexity. From notting at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 00:33:07 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:33:07 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080604349.12495.1.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080603252.1444.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040329233858.GA12410@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080604349.12495.1.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <20040330003306.GA30876@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Chris Kloiber (ckloiber at redhat.com) said: > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 > > Is bug# 118941 related? No, that's something else. Bill From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 00:42:59 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 29 Mar 2004 21:42:59 -0300 Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? In-Reply-To: <200403291310.54842.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200403291310.54842.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Mar 29, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > none on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw) /proc/fs/nfsd works for me ^ -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Tue Mar 30 01:04:44 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:04:44 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040330003306.GA30876@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080603252.1444.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040329233858.GA12410@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080604349.12495.1.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <20040330003306.GA30876@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4068C7AC.1000705@insight.rr.com> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Chris Kloiber (ckloiber at redhat.com) said: > >>>http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 >> >>Is bug# 118941 related? > > > No, that's something else. > > Bill > > I'm still downloading the ISOs. I am wondering if the disk partitioning problem is related to SELInux in any way? Cris' output had a lot of avc messages, though I didn't read closely all of the multiple errors. Not knocking SELinux here. I'm just wondering if disk partitioning is so much of a process of having full control of the devices, this might not be a process that would work well with SELinux having interaction with the process. Jim From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Mar 30 01:23:56 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:23:56 -0600 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: <1080590769.1308.15.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> References: <1080590769.1308.15.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <4068CC2C.2020200@earthlink.net> Jean Francois Martinez wrote: >Was Test2 supposed to be bootable from CD? > >I have tried on several boxes, (and yes the bootparms) are right in >the Bios, and this thing does not boot. > >I reburned the image and still the same > >I also notice there are no images for booting from floppy or for network >installations, except for PXE so if you don't have a box capable >of booting from the Internet you are out > > > > It would not boot for me either, and I did check the md5sums and did the media check. To get started, I put the FC1 release Disc 1 in the drive and when it got to the boot: prompt, switched it out and replaced it with the FC2 Test 2 Disc 1 CD. All worked fine after that. Gerry From ed at fletcher.ca Tue Mar 30 01:37:01 2004 From: ed at fletcher.ca (Ed Fletcher) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:37:01 -0800 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329233858.GA12410@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080603252.1444.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080603252.1444.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329172028.009eee80@fletcher.ca> At 06:38 PM 3/29/04 -0500, you wrote: >Matias Feliciano (feliciano.matias at free.fr) said: > > Is this enough to file a bug ? > >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 > >Bill I've just downloaded the four FC2T2 cd-rom iso files. My system refused to boot from disk one. Didn't seem to recognize that it was a bootable CD. I had to boot using the Test 1 disk and then swap to the Test 2 disk at the first screen before I pressed "Enter" to continue. Running the semi-auto check on the cd didn't find any errors. But at least I've got it installing now. Is this the same problem as reported earlier in this thread and should I add this to the bugzilla file? For info: the motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7VM400M-P with two SATA disks and one LG GSA-4081B DVD/CD burner on the second IDE bus. Ed -- Ed Fletcher ed at fletcher.ca "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Tue Mar 30 03:42:08 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:42:08 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: <4068CC2C.2020200@earthlink.net> References: <1080590769.1308.15.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <4068CC2C.2020200@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1080618128.3176.4.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 19:23 -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > >Was Test2 supposed to be bootable from CD? > > > >I have tried on several boxes, (and yes the bootparms) are right in > >the Bios, and this thing does not boot. > > > >I reburned the image and still the same > > > >I also notice there are no images for booting from floppy or for network > >installations, except for PXE so if you don't have a box capable > >of booting from the Internet you are out > > > > > > > > > It would not boot for me either, and I did check the md5sums and did the > media check. To get started, I put the FC1 release Disc 1 in the drive > and when it got to the boot: prompt, switched it out and replaced it > with the FC2 Test 2 Disc 1 CD. All worked fine after that. Me three. I also see: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg02137.html I'm going to try and burn the iso on a FC1 box (maybe FC2 has trouble burning a bootable cd). :) From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Tue Mar 30 04:23:11 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:23:11 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: <1080618128.3176.4.camel@family> References: <1080590769.1308.15.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <4068CC2C.2020200@earthlink.net> <1080618128.3176.4.camel@family> Message-ID: <1080620591.3319.5.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 22:42 -0500, Sandy Pond wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 19:23 -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > > > Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > > >Was Test2 supposed to be bootable from CD? > > > > > >I have tried on several boxes, (and yes the bootparms) are right in > > >the Bios, and this thing does not boot. > > > > > >I reburned the image and still the same > > > > > >I also notice there are no images for booting from floppy or for network > > >installations, except for PXE so if you don't have a box capable > > >of booting from the Internet you are out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would not boot for me either, and I did check the md5sums and did the > > media check. To get started, I put the FC1 release Disc 1 in the drive > > and when it got to the boot: prompt, switched it out and replaced it > > with the FC2 Test 2 Disc 1 CD. All worked fine after that. > > Me three. I also see: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg02137.html > > I'm going to try and burn the iso on a FC1 box (maybe FC2 has trouble > burning a bootable cd). Seem to be the computer ... cdroms boot on other systems. So far the system that fails to recognise the bootable cdrom is: NVIDIA nForce2 chipset LITE-ON COMBO LTC-48161H, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive From match at dimensional.com Tue Mar 30 04:36:13 2004 From: match at dimensional.com (Match Grun) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:36:13 -0700 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080595576.9565.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> <1080595576.9565.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:26:16 -0500 Will Backman wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:11, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta > > > a released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this > > > one doesn't even start it. > > > Could people report success and hardware specs also? > Like the guy asked... Has anyone managed to get FC2 to boot? Mmmm... From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Tue Mar 30 04:51:53 2004 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:51:53 +1000 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke Message-ID: <3295D58CC64C434F978440B967FC18680175602E@ntexchange.cat.csiro.au> Boots off old hardware for a kickstart. I used a CDRW written under Windows XP on a DELL OPTIPLEX GX260. Dell OPTIPLEX Gxa 266 PII booted with some CD drive, possibly the original. It does seem to be a little slow on the install from NFS mounted drives this time compared to test1 and FC1. Maybe I am imagining it, I would have to time it to be sure and I have creamed test1 due to lack of space on the server. > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Match Grun > Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 2:36 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke > > > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:26:16 -0500 > Will Backman wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:11, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > > > > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no > matter how beta > > > > a released distro it is supposed to complete its > install and this > > > > one doesn't even start it. > > > > > > Could people report success and hardware specs also? > > > > Like the guy asked... Has anyone managed to get FC2 to boot? > > Mmmm... > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From dowdle at montanalinux.org Tue Mar 30 05:01:36 2004 From: dowdle at montanalinux.org (Scott Dowdle) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:01:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: <20040329201608.B65F7740A3@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Greetings, I too can not get the CD to boot... when I have no problem in the past with booting from various CDs including FC2Test1 and FC1. I'm running an AMD Athlon 900, 3 IDE hard drives, 1 Philips CD-R, 384MB of RAM. The CD is set as secondary master. Wanting to test but can't. TYL, -- Scott Dowdle, System Admin MontanaLinux.Org & MontanansForDean.org 406.254.2367 (home) From gds at chartertn.net Tue Mar 30 05:06:59 2004 From: gds at chartertn.net (Gene Smith) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:06:59 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: References: <20040329232445.GN1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: netopml at newview.com wrote, On 03/29/2004 06:25 PM: > cra at WPI.EDU ("Charles R. Anderson") writes: > >>Upgrading to SELinux is too hard. > > > Not it's not. You install both policy and checkpolicy rpms, you reboot. You > run "fixfiles relabel", you reboot one more time and you're done. And it's > all in the FAQ whose url was given prior and in the release notes... From a clean install using the FC2 Test1 4-CD's I have kept updated with yum, including the xorg upgrade. When I boot, I see that I am at version 1.91. Are you saying I do not need to create 4 more FC2 T2 CD's and do another clean install to reach true FC2 T2? I can just obtain the "policy" rpms and install them per the FAQ? (I understand that testing the installer from scratch is beneficial, but right now I would rather not go that route if possible.) Tkx, -gene p/s: Only problem I am seeing is X lock-ups and running glxinfo crashes X as described in a previous post and bugzilla. From andy at plausible.org Tue Mar 30 05:20:44 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:20:44 -0800 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: References: <20040329232445.GN1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <406903AC.1090204@plausible.org> netopml at newview.com wrote: > Not it's not. > > You install both policy > ... and checkpolicy rpms, > you reboot. > You run "fixfiles relabel", > you reboot one more time No offense, but I'm hardly a newbie user and the only steps I understood above were "reboot". What's the difference between a policy and a checkpolicy? Why are the files broken? What's a label, and what was it set to before that was wrong? Seriously, this is a major paradigm change being pushed with this release, and the documentation is awfully sparse. What's the rationale? What do we stand to gain? What old habits are we going to have to break? As it stands, it seems like Red Hat is feeding us something and telling us its good for us without, as it were, providing a nutition analysis label. Andy From jkeating at j2solutions.net Tue Mar 30 05:27:57 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:27:57 -0600 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: <406903AC.1090204@plausible.org> References: <406903AC.1090204@plausible.org> Message-ID: <200403292327.57252.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Monday 29 March 2004 23:20, Andy Ross wrote: > Seriously, this is a major paradigm change being pushed with this > release, and the documentation is awfully sparse. What's the > rationale? What do we stand to gain? What old habits are we > going to have to break? As it stands, it seems like Red Hat is > feeding us something and telling us its good for us without, as > it were, providing a nutition analysis label. Did you read the SELinux FAQ posted earlier? http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating From ed at fletcher.ca Tue Mar 30 05:42:10 2004 From: ed at fletcher.ca (Ed Fletcher) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:42:10 -0800 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: References: <20040329201608.B65F7740A3@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329211923.00a003f0@fletcher.ca> At 09:01 PM 3/29/04 -0800, someone wrote: >I too can not get the CD to boot... when I have no problem in the past >with booting from various CDs including FC2Test1 and FC1. Same as the rest - had to boot from FC1T1 disk and switch to FC2T2 disk at the first prompt. Install seems to go fine from there. (Won't boot to X but it installed. I had better luck with T1.) Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7VM400M-P with Award bios v6.00PG dated 2003/11/24 (latest). I have no IDE hard disks, just two SATA disks and an LG DVD/CD burner GSA-4081B on the secondary IDE bus. Managed to boot a Compaq Evo N800c laptop and an older (Athlon 750) desktop with FC2T2 Disk 1 though. I've entered this on Bugzilla. Ed -- Ed Fletcher ed at fletcher.ca "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin From andy at plausible.org Tue Mar 30 06:13:54 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:13:54 -0800 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: <200403292327.57252.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <406903AC.1090204@plausible.org> <200403292327.57252.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <40691022.2050702@plausible.org> Jesse Keating wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > Seriously, this is a major paradigm change being pushed with this > > release, and the documentation is awfully sparse. What's the > > rationale? What do we stand to gain? What old habits are we > > going to have to break? > > Did you read the SELinux FAQ posted earlier? Yes, and I tried to limit my sample questions to ones I felt were not covered well by the FAQ. Previous releases have added software or change default configurations. But this is a new kind of feature addition. Administering a FC2 machine, it seems, is *different*. How? And why? I honestly don't know yet, and I fear what I do not understand. :) Andy From jfm512 at free.fr Tue Mar 30 06:16:34 2004 From: jfm512 at free.fr (Jean Francois Martinez) Date: 30 Mar 2004 08:16:34 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1080627394.1221.20.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 00:44, Alan Cox wrote: > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > > released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > > doesn't even start it. > > Statistical value of one sample -> nil. > > Please file a bug and include hw info so we can work out why it fails > in your case. I will fill a report tonight but: 1) The recording system is an Athlon with Nforce 2 chipset and Liteon LTR-48246S as CD recorder running RedHat 9 with all updates applied. The image didn't boot from the Athlon be it from the DVD reader or the CD writer. It also didn't boot on my test on my test machine a K6 with a CD reader and an SCSI CD writer (failed to boot from both, and yes the box can boot from both). So at this point the image has failed to boot from 4 readers. And I reburned it in case the media was defective. I also notice that someone with the same problem succeeded in doing a mediacheck (through booting with FC2T1) and it succeeded so I don't believe it is a media or writer problem. 2) the problem who really angered me is the realtive to the boot.iso contained in CD1: the fact it says me it cannot use my _IDE_ CDROM, the fact it says me it cannot use my _IDE_ disks, the fact I see it loading the driver for my SCSI controller but then it says me it cannot use my SCSI CD writer, the fact I see it loading the via-rhine driver but then it says me it cannot use my ethernet card -- Jean Francois Martinez From ed at fletcher.ca Tue Mar 30 06:42:59 2004 From: ed at fletcher.ca (Ed Fletcher) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:42:59 -0800 Subject: Boot Error with SELinux Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> I've managed to install FC2T2 (after doing the boot disk swap with T1). The install completed with no errors. However, I cannot boot the machine at all. This is from the boot sequence. Everything is normal through the Bogomips check. Then I get: Quote Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing SELinux: Starting in permissive mode There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed Failure registering capabilities with the kernel selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module security Unquote Then a bunch more normal messages including many SELinux initialized (dev, type [futexfs | socksfs | proc | bdev] etc) And lastly Quote INIT: version 2.85 booting audit(1080597019.563:0): avc: denied {getattr} for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init path=/dev/initctl dev=hdg9 Unquote These audit message are about three lines of text each. And they scroll repeatedly across my screen. I get some green OK's and a few red FAILED's but then it goes to screen after screen of audit messages. hdg9 is my root partition, BTW. That's the way it was for test 1 so I didn't change the partition layout. I'll put this into Bugzilla if anyone knows the tracking number. (I'm sure it's been reported and I'd like to avoid logging a duplicate.) Sorry if the above boot messages aren't verbatim. I had to copy them by hand. Ed -- Ed Fletcher ed at fletcher.ca "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin From jmorris at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 06:59:20 2004 From: jmorris at redhat.com (James Morris) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:59:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boot Error with SELinux In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Ed Fletcher wrote: > This is from the boot sequence. Everything is normal through the Bogomips > check. Then I get: > Quote > Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized > SELinux: Initializing > SELinux: Starting in permissive mode > There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed > Failure registering capabilities with the kernel > selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module security > Unquote The above is actually correct. SELinux loaded as the primary module, then the capability module failed to load as the primary module because SELinux was there. SElinux then loaded capability as a secondary security module. > Quote > INIT: version 2.85 booting > audit(1080597019.563:0): avc: denied {getattr} for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init > path=/dev/initctl dev=hdg9 > Unquote > Was this the first audit message? > Sorry if the above boot messages aren't verbatim. I had to copy them by hand. The scontext and tcontext components would be most useful, if you get a chance to copy them again. - James -- James Morris From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 30 07:17:08 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:17:08 -0800 Subject: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! In-Reply-To: <20040329222317.GR15672@lichen.truemesh.com> References: <200403292054.i2TKsZsK026594@orion.dwf.com> <4068A1F3.1040007@clara.co.uk> <20040329222317.GR15672@lichen.truemesh.com> Message-ID: <20040330071708.GA24467@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 10:23:19PM +0000, Paul Nasrat wrote: > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:23:19 +0000 > From: Paul Nasrat > To: bartk at clara.co.uk, > For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Cc: > Subject: Re: Can't get BitTorrent to work !!! > Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 11:23:47PM +0100, Bart Kalita wrote: > > Well, I consider installing Java one of the first things to do on a > > clean install. > > and the proces is not that hard: > > http://home.bredband.no/gaulyk/java/tutorial/javaredhat.html > > If you are writing a tutorial - please consider jpackage too: > > http://jpackage.org Hmmm I wonder why they use php for their web site ;-) http://jpackage.org/about.php ;-) Php just gained a tally in my 'review for homework' list of things looking for a roundtoit. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From ed at fletcher.ca Tue Mar 30 07:33:03 2004 From: ed at fletcher.ca (Ed Fletcher) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:33:03 -0800 Subject: Boot Error with SELinux In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329230515.00a042f0@fletcher.ca> At 01:59 AM 3/30/04 -0500, James Morris wrote: >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Ed Fletcher wrote: > > > This is from the boot sequence. Everything is normal through the Bogomips > > check. Then I get: > > Quote > > Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized > > SELinux: Initializing > > SELinux: Starting in permissive mode > > There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed > > Failure registering capabilities with the kernel > > selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module security > > Unquote > >The above is actually correct. SELinux loaded as the primary module, then >the capability module failed to load as the primary module because SELinux >was there. SElinux then loaded capability as a secondary security module. > > > Quote > > INIT: version 2.85 booting > > audit(1080597019.563:0): avc: denied {getattr} for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init > > path=/dev/initctl dev=hdg9 > > Unquote > > > >Was this the first audit message? Yes, that was the first one. > > Sorry if the above boot messages aren't verbatim. I had to copy them > by hand. > >The scontext and tcontext components would be most useful, if you get a >chance to copy them again. For the first one: scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=fifo_file Next one says: audit (#): avc: denied {read write} for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init path=/dev/initctl dev=hdg9 ino=3763872 scontext, tcontext and tclass are the same as the first audit message Then it says: Setting default font (latarcyrheb-sun16): . . . no modules for INPUT product 11/2/6/56 . . . no modules for INPUT product . . . no modules for INPUT product Hmmm . . . just rebooted and got the first two audit messages again then Setting default font (latarcyrheb-sun16): audit (#): avc: denied and then the same scontext, tcontext and tclass messages. There's many more (hundreds? thousands?) but I can copy a few of them down If they'd help. Ed -- Ed Fletcher ed at fletcher.ca "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Tue Mar 30 07:34:41 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:34:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? In-Reply-To: References: <200403291310.54842.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <40387.193.111.40.193.1080632081.squirrel@www.wms-network.de> > On Mar 29, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > >> none on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw) > > /proc/fs/nfsd works for me > ^ OK, I have this too. Still not working. An "ls -la" in "/proc/fs/nfsd" returns "". What should be there? Chris From stephen at skmoore.com Tue Mar 30 07:35:45 2004 From: stephen at skmoore.com (Stephen Moore) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:35:45 +1000 Subject: esd /alsa problem In-Reply-To: <1080578119.12322.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4067F246.8050005@skmoore.com> <1080578119.12322.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40692351.1080604@skmoore.com> I checked and changed the permissions of the files, unfortunately to no effect. Still doesnt't work :-( [root at paris root]# ls -l /dev/dsp* crw------- 1 stephen root 14, 3 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 25 20:14 /dev/dsp0 -> dsp crw------- 1 stephen root 14, 19 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp1 crw------- 1 stephen root 55, 0 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp56k [root at paris root]# chmod a+rw /dev/dsp* [root at paris root]# ls -l /dev/dsp* crw-rw-rw- 1 stephen root 14, 3 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 25 20:14 /dev/dsp0 -> dsp crw-rw-rw- 1 stephen root 14, 19 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp1 crw-rw-rw- 1 stephen root 55, 0 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp56k Andr? S. wrote: > What ls -l /dev/dsp* shows? > Try setting all to 777 or 666 (chmod a+rw /dev/dsp*) and start esd as > a normal user. > > > Em Seg, 2004-03-29 ?s 19:54 +1000, Stephen Moore escreveu: > >>I can only load esd as root. When I try to load esd as a user I get >>"audio_alsa: no cards found!". >> >>When I run as root, esd starts fine. I presume that this some sort of >>permissions problem. This is not a alsa mute problem (I think). >> >>Cheers >> >> >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> From austran at mts.net Tue Mar 30 07:38:03 2004 From: austran at mts.net (Janusz Sadowski) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:38:03 -0600 Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T2 Anyone? References: <200403292054.i2TKsZsK026594@orion.dwf.com><4068A1F3.1040007@clara.co.uk><20040329222317.GR15672@lichen.truemesh.com> <20040330071708.GA24467@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <00f801c41629$ef51eb50$0201a8c0@ripper> I thing that subject line says it all. :-) Janusz -- From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Tue Mar 30 07:39:25 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:39:25 -0600 Subject: FC2 Test 2 CD 1 Does Not Boot In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: <200403300139.26136.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> I cannot boot from FC2 Test2 CD 1. The md5sums match: fbf0c082c6086179bc4292086e39ecbc. If I put CD 1 into a machine already running Linux, it pops up a window asking if I would like to upgrade. Dual Pentium 3 1 GHz/ 133 MHz FSB 1 GB DDR Memory Via Apollo Pro266T North Bridge 1 DVD/CD Drive 2 IDE Hard Drives Byte From farnik at internode.on.net Tue Mar 30 07:39:58 2004 From: farnik at internode.on.net (K,N,D Farnik) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:09:58 +0930 Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T2 Anyone? In-Reply-To: <00f801c41629$ef51eb50$0201a8c0@ripper> Message-ID: <00aa01c4162a$344d86b0$0101010a@whitestar> Will attempt as soon as I get the FC2T2 downloaded, probably in the next week or so. > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Janusz Sadowski > Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:08 > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T2 Anyone? > > > I thing that subject line says it all. :-) > > Janusz > > -- > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Tue Mar 30 07:40:05 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:40:05 -0600 Subject: FC2 Test 2 CD 1 Does Not Boot In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: <200403300140.05337.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> I cannot boot from FC2 Test2 CD 1. The md5sums match: fbf0c082c6086179bc4292086e39ecbc. If I put CD 1 into a machine already running Linux, it pops up a window asking if I would like to upgrade. Dual Pentium 3 1 GHz/ 133 MHz FSB 1 GB DDR Memory Via Apollo Pro266T North Bridge 1 DVD/CD Drive 2 ID From jorton at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 07:59:03 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:59:03 +0100 Subject: DVD sizes In-Reply-To: <20040329203441.GX31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040329201624.GB1181602@hiwaay.net> <36743.192.168.1.10.1080591614.squirrel@localhost> <20040329202953.GC1181602@hiwaay.net> <20040329203441.GX31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040330075903.GA24503@redhat.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 03:34:43PM -0500, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 02:29:53PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > > What do you want me to say? I'm the mirror admin for mirror.hiwaay.net. > > He is seeing something from my mirror that I do not see (either via > > shell or FTP) and he's seeing it from another mirror as well. The > > logical assumption then is that there is a problem at his end. > > > > However, from this I have (I think) discovered a bug in Apache. I don't > > serve the ISOs via HTTP (because Apache tends to do odd things with > > large files). However, if I go to that directory and get the generated > > directory listing, it doesn't include the DVD. I bet Apache is using 32 > > (or 31) bits for file sizes; at least it just skips the file it can't > > handle (instead of crashing). > > My guess is it stat/lstat's the file, which on 32-bit platform of course > fails (stat64/lstat64 would succeed). > Please file a bugzilla bug. Please don't! Current stable releases of Apache httpd can't use a 64-bit off_t on 32-bit platforms (except those BSDs where off_t is natively 64-bit anyway), since doing so would change the binary module interface. This was fixed in the unstable 2.1 tree just a few days ago. Regards, joe From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 30 07:59:56 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:59:56 -0800 Subject: Fast and slow. BitTorrent... Message-ID: <20040330075956.GB24467@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Downloading the latest FC2-test2-binary-i386 and FC2-test2-src-i386 via torrent I got more than an order of magnitude download speed difference in the two. FC2-test2-src-i386 arrived at full speed and FC2-test2-binary-i386 arrived at one tenth the speed. Is this because of grab and gone folks, lots of asymmetric links like my own DSL or is there a scaling issue. At this later hour in the day I Just restarted FC2-test2-binary-i386 and the slow is finishing at full speed. http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ Are there statistics kept near and far that can shed light on this. Is is possible with the magic of symbolic links to generate multiple torrents that are geographically friendly? (assuming that that is the issue). Now I am at one third link speed. While still better than http from an overloaded server,,, I wonder. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 30 08:09:41 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:09:41 -0800 Subject: FC2 Test 2 CD 1 Does Not Boot In-Reply-To: <200403300139.26136.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> <200403300139.26136.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040330080941.GC24467@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 01:39:25AM -0600, ByteEnable wrote: > I cannot boot from FC2 Test2 CD 1. The md5sums match: > fbf0c082c6086179bc4292086e39ecbc. If I put CD 1 into a machine already > running Linux, it pops up a window asking if I would like to upgrade. Just curious, Is the kernel in CD1 an enforcing mode kernel? If it is what would be the interaction with an existing file system with policy labels on all the low numbered inodes and more. In the future when folks begin to modify policy extensively could there be an issue? -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue Mar 30 08:27:49 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:27:49 +0200 Subject: some specific boot probs [was: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke] In-Reply-To: <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> <1080595576.9565.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080635192.5238.5.camel@littlePiet> Am Di, den 30.03.2004 schrieb Match Grun um 06:36: > Like the guy asked... Has anyone managed to get FC2 to boot? No prob here (fortunately :-) ): old Hardware: IBM IntelliStation M Pro, SMP dual P3 600, Adaptec SCSI not so old Hardware: IBM Thinkpad T40p Centrino, IDE drive Peter From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue Mar 30 08:58:05 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:58:05 +0200 Subject: current status of the LVM issue? Message-ID: <1080636760.5263.5.camel@littlePiet> Sorry, if I'm not up to date on this issue. I know there is some trouble with LVM 1 / LVM 2 and in the release notes there is a warning that an *update* of a root file system located on a LVM partition will fail. But: can a create with Test 2 a root file system on free space in a LVM created with Core 1 without compromising my system? And can I use the home file system located on a LVM created with Core 1? Thanks Peter From manu at kromtek.com Tue Mar 30 08:47:57 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:47:57 +0400 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <200403301247.57482.manu@kromtek.com> I stopped Fedora,after my hands on FC1. RH9 was okay. Redhat just wants guinea pigs to test for it's RHEL program. I had lot's of trouble with almost any kind of hardware. It worked with relatively few hardware. Please don't tell me The ASUS P4C800, Intel D865 Perl are all wonky hardware, rather i would say wonky distro and distro beta's Regards, Manu On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 1:15 am, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:11, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > > released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > > doesn't even start it. > > It sounds more like you have some seriously wonky equipment. Has this > machine ever run a Linux distro before? > > -- > Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 > http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From manu at kromtek.com Tue Mar 30 08:50:41 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:50:41 +0400 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200403301250.41282.manu@kromtek.com> M$ also says the same, with bugs in their stuff. Following the same path. Regards, Manu On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 2:44 am, Alan Cox wrote: > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > > released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > > doesn't even start it. > > Statistical value of one sample -> nil. > > Please file a bug and include hw info so we can work out why it fails > in your case. From manu at kromtek.com Tue Mar 30 08:55:23 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:55:23 +0400 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> Message-ID: <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 4:01 am, Alan Santos wrote: > I'm one more sample with a problem when partitioning, and a reference to > bugzilla for another. > > But calling it a joke is too inflammatory and insulting to the people > who have spent many hours working on it so far. > You are absolutely right. It is not just the developer alone. Consider the people who download the ISO's over relatively slow links and try it on their machines, just to find their data just vanished. Regards, Manu > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118941 > > Alan Cox wrote: > >>At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > >>released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > >>doesn't even start it. > > > >Statistical value of one sample -> nil. > > > >Please file a bug and include hw info so we can work out why it fails > >in your case. From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Tue Mar 30 09:25:41 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:25:41 +0200 Subject: Fast and slow. BitTorrent... In-Reply-To: <20040330075956.GB24467@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <20040330075956.GB24467@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <1080638741.6313.5.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:59, Tom Mitchell wrote: > Downloading the latest FC2-test2-binary-i386 and FC2-test2-src-i386 > via torrent I got more than an order of magnitude download speed > difference in the two. > > FC2-test2-src-i386 arrived at full speed and FC2-test2-binary-i386 > arrived at one tenth the speed. Is this because of grab and gone > folks, lots of asymmetric links like my own DSL or is there a scaling > issue. >From the way things look on my machine, I would think that it was more of a load problem. For many hours I was getting twice as fast upload as download (very strange on adsl. It could be that the source files were not in high demand compared to the supply, whereas the binaries were oversubscribed. As more full sets came on line, the speed improved. From spam at tachegroup.com Tue Mar 30 09:31:19 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 04:31:19 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080597291.1594.62.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: LAMO - It is like the Mandrake 10 install a bud of mine did, which after he boots from CD, the installer starts, then states cannot detect the cdrom! on 3/29/2004 4:54 PM, Jean Francois Martinez at jfm512 at free.fr wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 23:15, Ben Steeves wrote: >> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:11, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: >> >>> At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a >>> released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one >>> doesn't even start it. >> >> It sounds more like you haveyou eriously wonky equipment. Has this >> machine ever run a Linux distro before? >> > > This machine has been running Linux since its birth in 1999. It ran > FC1, FC2 test 1, everything. It has perfectly standard equipment and > it isn't a problem of equipment when the installer in boot.iso does not > support IDE disks like used by 99.999999999999 % of Earthers, and it > isn't a problem of equipment when the installer in boot.iso is > forcing you to choose an ethernet driver (from a list > of exotic cards you don't have) because it is too stupid > to notice that your card has been detected and its driver (via-rhine) > successfully loaded. And it refuses to go further since of course > loading any driver from the list will fail. > > > >> -- >> Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca >> The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca >> against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 >> http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From austran at mts.net Tue Mar 30 09:31:40 2004 From: austran at mts.net (Janusz Sadowski) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 03:31:40 -0600 Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 References: <00f401c4116d$25161c50$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: <017701c41639$dc804fc0$0201a8c0@ripper> Ie looks like there is a solution export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 does the trick Janusz From jorton at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 09:35:07 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:35:07 +0100 Subject: Call for testers: mod_auth_kerb Message-ID: <20040330093507.GA24864@redhat.com> The mod_auth_kerb packages here: http://people.redhat.com/jorton/FedoraC2-krb/ are ready for some wider testing. Specifically it would be interesting to see how well they integrate into an Active Directory domain; so far most of our testing has been using MIT Kerberos. After installing the package you get a config file: /etc/httpd/conf.d/auth_kerb.conf which gives an example configuration, let me know if there are any questions that file doesn't cover. Regards, joe From efthym at gmx.net Tue Mar 30 09:31:41 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 04:31:41 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: References: <200403291821.30678.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: Just finished the upgrade. Unfortunately the installation process didn't do anything with SELinux (since it wasn't previously installed). I'm not sure if this is how it should be since FC2T2 is supposed to test SELinux. And by the way no problems from the CDs (downloaded with torrent) on an IBM T21. I installed it manually afterwards following directions from another post : checkpolicy, policy, policy-sources, policycoreutils reboot (lots of denied msgs) fixfiles relabel reboot dmesg shows : Linux version 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 (bhcompile at tweety.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.3.3 20040216 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-2.1)) #1 Fri Mar 12 14:01:55 EST 2004 Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. Failure registering capabilities with the kernel selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Capability LSM initialized Freeing unused kernel memory: 148k freed security: 3 users, 5 roles, 1166 types security: 30 classes, 261889 rules SELinux: Completing initialization. SELinux: Setting up existing superblocks. SELinux: initialized (dev , type selinuxfs), uses genfs_contexts SELinux: initialized (dev hda2, type ext3), uses xattr SELinux: initialized (dev ram0, type ext2), uses xattr SELinux: initialized (dev , type hugetlbfs), not configured for labeling SELinux: initialized (dev , type devpts), uses transition SIDs SELinux: initialized (dev , type eventpollfs), uses genfs_contexts SELinux: initialized (dev , type pipefs), uses task SIDs SELinux: initialized (dev , type tmpfs), uses transition SIDs SELinux: initialized (dev , type futexfs), uses genfs_contexts SELinux: initialized (dev , type sockfs), uses task SIDs SELinux: initialized (dev , type proc), uses genfs_contexts SELinux: initialized (dev , type bdev), uses genfs_contexts SELinux: initialized (dev , type rootfs), uses genfs_contexts SELinux: initialized (dev , type sysfs), uses genfs_contexts Shouldn't the system start in enforcing mode now ? Or do I have to set SELINUX=enforcing in /etc/sysconfig/selinux first? I guess its time to start reading up on SELinux ... On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:05:33 -0500, Efthym wrote: > I've got FC2 test1 with all updates installed (including xorg). > I'm doing a backup now (just in case) and I think I'll try the upgrade > just for kicks. > I'll post the results later. > > > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:21:30 -0500, Gene C. wrote: > >> On Monday 29 March 2004 17:53, Efthym wrote: >>> I read in a previous posting that upgrading to T2 through yum will not >>> enforce the SELinux policies. Does this apply to upgrading through the >>> iso's as well ? Do I have to do a clean install to use SELinux ? >> >> I would recommend a clean install. The differences (especialy relating >> to >> selinux) between Test1 and Test2 are significant and very easily >> screwed up. >> In addition, there is the whole business of Xfree86 -> xorg-x11 adds >> more >> complexity. > > > From Lionel.Bouton at inet6.fr Tue Mar 30 10:03:05 2004 From: Lionel.Bouton at inet6.fr (Lionel Bouton) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:03:05 +0200 Subject: DVD iso too big ? In-Reply-To: References: <1080581662.1436.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4068612F.3060109@clara.co.uk> <1080582877.1436.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <406945D9.3070804@inet6.fr> Dan Goodes wrote the following on 03/30/2004 12:46 AM : >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 at 19:54, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > >>FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso size is 4306010112 (more than 4Go) but httpd >>server indicate only 11042816 (~ 11Mo). >> >> > >Apache HTTPD has a (long standing) issue with large files. I run a mirror >site (planetmirror.com) and have found that Rsync is the only reliable way >to download the file successfully. Having said that, some FTP servers also >allegedly work. > > >Regards, > >Dan Goodes : Systems Programmer : dang at planetmirror.com > >Help support PlanetMirror - Australia's largest Internet archive >by signing up for PlanetMirror Premium : http://planetmirror.com > > > > bittorrent should work (at least with the standard client) too. -- Lionel Bouton - inet6 --------------------------------------------------------------------- o Siege social: 51, rue de Verdun - 92158 Suresnes / _ __ _ Acces Bureaux: 33 rue Benoit Malon - 92150 Suresnes / /\ /_ / /_ France \/ \/_ / /_/ Tel. +33 (0) 1 41 44 85 36 Inetsys S.A. Fax +33 (0) 1 46 97 20 10 From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Tue Mar 30 10:28:24 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:28:24 +0100 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <200403301250.41282.manu@kromtek.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403301250.41282.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <1080642504.4907.39.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> I would be curious to know what else you would suggest? I mean there is always the perfect world suggestion which is "Don't ship buggy software". But then don't download beta software either, as by definition it is buggy. It has also been stated on numerous occasions that Redhat in the past would have two or three internal beta's before it was released to the wild. Fedora being a public project no longer has those (why should it?) so initial beta's will not be the same as those offered by redhat in the past. I really really don't understand any of these snide comments. Doug On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:50, Manu Abraham wrote: > M$ also says the same, with bugs in their stuff. Following the same path. > > Regards, > Manu > > > On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 2:44 am, Alan Cox wrote: > > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a > > > released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one > > > doesn't even start it. > > > > Statistical value of one sample -> nil. > > > > Please file a bug and include hw info so we can work out why it fails > > in your case. > From iainr at zathras.org Tue Mar 30 10:44:55 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:44:55 +0100 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> <1080595576.9565.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40694FA7.6070008@zathras.org> Match Grun wrote: >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:26:16 -0500 >Will Backman wrote: > > > >>>On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:11, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta >>>>a released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this >>>>one doesn't even start it. >>>> >>>> >>Could people report success and hardware specs also? >> >> >> > >Like the guy asked... Has anyone managed to get FC2 to boot? > >Mmmm... > > > > yes, boots fine on an old compaq workstation and on a dell latitude C640 From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Tue Mar 30 10:51:02 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:51:02 +0100 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:55, Manu Abraham wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 4:01 am, Alan Santos wrote: > > I'm one more sample with a problem when partitioning, and a reference to > > bugzilla for another. > > > > But calling it a joke is too inflammatory and insulting to the people > > who have spent many hours working on it so far. > > > > > You are absolutely right. I'm glad you agree > It is not just the developer alone. Consider the people who download > the ISO's over relatively slow links and try it on their machines, > just to find their data just vanished. I seem to sense a level of sarcasm in this particular sentence. These people that are downloading a test release over an extremely slow link would have to have a fairly large desire to use a test release. for what ever reason. I would have thought they would do this knowing that it was a test release and as such may not work for every one. To then suggest that they installed a test solution on their main desktop/server as apposed to "throw away hardware" surly is an insult to their intelligence? And if it is not and they actually did do that, I'm sorry but I don't feel even remotely sorry for them. Oh no... I'm not feeding a troll am I? Doug From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Mar 30 11:28:24 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:28:24 +0100 Subject: FC2t2 install Message-ID: <1080646102.26304.24.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, Is there anything I need to be wary of when going from FC1 to FC2t2 via the install CDs or does it do everything (like setting up selinux etc)? TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 11:41:03 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:41:03 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <200403301250.41282.manu@kromtek.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200403301250.41282.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <20040330114103.GA20814@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:50:41PM +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > M$ also says the same, with bugs in their stuff. Following the same path. Maybe because its the right answer 8) Believe it or not various people did actually install the Test2 code before it went public. And being a test shock horror when you install it on zillions of boxes, it doesnt work on some From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue Mar 30 11:44:37 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:44:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: any chance for a quick respin of FC2t2? Message-ID: i'm still working my way thru the numerous emails discussing the booting problem with FC2t2, and i haven't seen any mention of debugging the boot problem and issuing updated CDs/DVD images. i was just about to start a DVD ISO download, but i'm willing to wait if a new image might be available in the next few days that fixes this. any chance of that? or do we just go with what's there? rday From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 11:45:12 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:45:12 -0500 Subject: any chance for a quick respin of FC2t2? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040330114512.GB20814@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:44:37AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i'm still working my way thru the numerous emails discussing the booting > problem with FC2t2, and i haven't seen any mention of debugging the boot > problem and issuing updated CDs/DVD images. Probably not. A good workaround for this case seems to be to boot off the T1 CD to the initial boot prompt then switch CD From tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com Tue Mar 30 11:50:00 2004 From: tmwg-fedorat at inxservices.com (George Garvey) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 03:50:00 -0800 Subject: any chance for a quick respin of FC2t2? In-Reply-To: <20040330114512.GB20814@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040330114512.GB20814@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040330115000.GA4049@inxservices.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:45:12AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:44:37AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i'm still working my way thru the numerous emails discussing the booting > > problem with FC2t2, and i haven't seen any mention of debugging the boot > > problem and issuing updated CDs/DVD images. > > Probably not. A good workaround for this case seems to be to boot off > the T1 CD to the initial boot prompt then switch CD If one can install from the rescue CD, I could boot it when the boot CD didn't boot. I didn't do anything but boot, though, due to lack of time to follow through. From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue Mar 30 11:59:00 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:59:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Douglas Furlong wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:55, Manu Abraham wrote: > > It is not just the developer alone. Consider the people who download > > the ISO's over relatively slow links and try it on their machines, > > just to find their data just vanished. > I seem to sense a level of sarcasm in this particular sentence. > > These people that are downloading a test release over an extremely slow > link would have to have a fairly large desire to use a test release. for > what ever reason. I would have thought they would do this knowing that > it was a test release and as such may not work for every one. i have some sympathy with mr. abraham in this instance. there's nothing wrong with bugs in a beta/test release, and everyone realizes that. so we download it, install it, test it, find bugs, and keep updating as those bugs get shaken out. but all of that assumes you can get the software onto your machine in the first place. this suggests that, more than anything else, the installation procedure has to be flogged pretty hard before getting out the door to make sure it works. it's one thing to help test software once you get it onto your system. it's somewhat more serious to not even be able to get it onto your system to begin with, which goes a certain distance in explaining some folks' frustration level. rday p.s. it's for precisely that reason that i asked previously, will there be a respin once this issue is resolved? under the circumstances, i don't see how there can't be. just my $0.02 canadian. (which, these days, is getting dangerously close to being $0.02 US. :-) From farnik at internode.on.net Tue Mar 30 12:17:16 2004 From: farnik at internode.on.net (K,N,D Farnik) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:47:16 +0930 Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <017701c41639$dc804fc0$0201a8c0@ripper> Message-ID: <001e01c41650$f101d380$0101010a@whitestar> Janusz wrote: > It looks like there is a solution > export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 > does the trick Tried that, no luck. Did U actually run it? From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 30 12:24:10 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:24:10 -0500 Subject: NFS server is seriously broken In-Reply-To: References: <200403291310.54842.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200403300724.15619.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 29 March 2004 7:42 pm, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Mar 29, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > > none on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw) > > /proc/fs/nfsd works for me > ^ > Doesn't work here. This is NOT a new setup. I am testing this with an existing environment that has been working for years. I have various Linux boxes, Solaris, etc. All of them hang forever trying to mount this updated server. On the FC2T2 server: selinux=0 >mount /dev/mapper/Volume01-LogVol00 on / type ext3 (rw,acl) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /sys type sysfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) /dev/hde1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) none on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) none on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw) automount(pid1665) on /net type autofs(rw,fd=4,pgrp=1665,minproto=2,maxproto=4) automount(pid1716) on /user type autofs (rw,fd=4,pgrp=1716,minproto=2,maxproto=4) automount(pid1726) on /home type autofs (rw,fd=4,pgrp=1726,minproto=2,maxproto=4) /disk1/nbecker on /home/nbecker type none (rw,bind) For example, here is one client: uname -a SunOS vlsisun21 5.8 Generic_108528-18 sun4u sparc Another example, I'm trying to boot FC2T2 on another linux box using NFS install. Both hang forever. Here's what the server says: Mar 30 07:12:33 rpppc1 rpc.mountd: export request from 10.32.91.21 Mar 30 07:12:33 rpppc1 rpc.mountd: export request from 10.32.91.21 Mar 30 07:12:33 rpppc1 rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from vlsisun21.md.hnsnet:764 for / (/) Mar 30 07:14:35 rpppc1 rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from adgcluster2.adg.labs.md.hnsnet:613 for /disk1/nbecker/FC2-test2-binary-i386 (/) Mar 30 07:15:15 rpppc1 rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from adgcluster2.adg.labs.md.hnsnet:615 for /disk1/nbecker/FC2-test2-binary-i386 (/) Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: printing eip: Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: 0214f7ff Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: *pde = 00000000 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: Oops: 0000 [#1] Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: CPU: 0 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: EIP: 0060:[<0214f7ff>] Not tainted Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: EFLAGS: 00010283 (2.6.4-1.281) Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: EIP is at page_address+0x6/0x148 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: eax: 00000000 ebx: 00000000 ecx: 00000000 edx: 00000005 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: esi: 00000000 edi: 00000000 ebp: 00000000 esp: 35878e64 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: Process nfsd (pid: 2115, threadinfo=35878000 task=3586e6c0) Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: Stack: 00000000 00000008 00000000 00000000 02273940 27c5d308 35879000 00001000 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: 00000000 00000000 35878e7c 00000001 00000000 00000000 00008000 00000000 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: 00000000 289ee104 00000000 00000008 02297bf5 00000008 00000000 00000000 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: Call Trace: Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<02273940>] sock_no_sendpage+0x19/0x90 Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<02297bf5>] tcp_sendpage+0x31/0x5e Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<4543f2f8>] svc_sendto+0x150/0x20e [sunrpc] Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<4544017b>] svc_tcp_sendto+0x3f/0x85 [sunrpc] Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<45440bd6>] svc_send+0xb3/0xe0 [sunrpc] Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<4546392a>] nfs3svc_release_fhandle+0x0/0xe [nfsd] Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<4543e7a8>] svc_process+0x37e/0x55e [sunrpc] Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<45456683>] nfsd+0x3ae/0x68c [nfsd] Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<454562d5>] nfsd+0x0/0x68c [nfsd] Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: [<021071d9>] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0xb Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: Mar 30 07:19:30 rpppc1 kernel: Code: 8b 00 f6 c4 01 75 25 2b 35 0c 15 3c 02 c1 fe 03 69 f6 cd cc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAaWbtMDqogpR5tkMRAhVIAJ4i2ax7NzgSia4+3ou8AVJwYHZ5YwCfZCU+ 8Ds/EYWWOUYVKxTtDRPeM54= =1b74 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de Tue Mar 30 12:24:41 2004 From: sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de (Ralf Sigmund) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:24:41 +0200 Subject: yum headers missing from all mirrors - and have not reappeared Message-ID: <40696709.4080902@ipk-gatersleben.de> well after spending half an hour reading lengthly discussions on who might be not responsible for this (it's not yum's fault!).. ... I still wonder if the headers directory will ever reappear? maybe development is finished and there is no more need to use yum? Ralf From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue Mar 30 12:31:37 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:31:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: any chance for a quick respin of FC2t2? In-Reply-To: <20040330114512.GB20814@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040330114512.GB20814@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:44:37AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i'm still working my way thru the numerous emails discussing the booting > > problem with FC2t2, and i haven't seen any mention of debugging the boot > > problem and issuing updated CDs/DVD images. > > Probably not. A good workaround for this case seems to be to boot off > the T1 CD to the initial boot prompt then switch CD rather than a respin, then, will it be possible, if one downloads the current DVD ISO, to patch the image with a fix and reburn it? just curious. rday From ernesto at ornl.gov Tue Mar 30 12:47:51 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:47:51 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke Message-ID: ________________________________ From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Robert P. J. Day Sent: Tue 3/30/2004 6:59 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Douglas Furlong wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:55, Manu Abraham wrote: > > It is not just the developer alone. Consider the people who download > > the ISO's over relatively slow links and try it on their machines, > > just to find their data just vanished. > I seem to sense a level of sarcasm in this particular sentence. > > These people that are downloading a test release over an extremely slow > link would have to have a fairly large desire to use a test release. for > what ever reason. I would have thought they would do this knowing that > it was a test release and as such may not work for every one. i have some sympathy with mr. abraham in this instance. there's nothing wrong with bugs in a beta/test release, and everyone realizes that. so we download it, install it, test it, find bugs, and keep updating as those bugs get shaken out. but all of that assumes you can get the software onto your machine in the first place. this suggests that, more than anything else, the installation procedure has to be flogged pretty hard before getting out the door to make sure it works. it's one thing to help test software once you get it onto your system. it's somewhat more serious to not even be able to get it onto your system to begin with, which goes a certain distance in explaining some folks' frustration level. ====================================================================== Sorry, I won't be so nice. I see this as plain negligence!! Who is in charge of Q/A?? And don't give the excuse that this is a test release, I am tired of hearing that excuse. ======================================================================= rday p.s. it's for precisely that reason that i asked previously, will there be a respin once this issue is resolved? under the circumstances, i don't see how there can't be. just my $0.02 canadian. (which, these days, is getting dangerously close to being $0.02 US. :-) -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From zumbi3 at free.fr Tue Mar 30 12:58:55 2004 From: zumbi3 at free.fr (Michael Opdenacker) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:58:55 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <40694FA7.6070008@zathras.org> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> <1080595576.9565.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> <40694FA7.6070008@zathras.org> Message-ID: <40696F0F.5000607@free.fr> Same for me! FC2T2 installed with no issue on my laptop (it's a taiwanese model, with no known model name). All the issues that I encountered on FC2T2 are gone. I switched to this new version and will be testing it 12 hours a day (or more!). So, it sems that the Fedora Core development process works and that the issues that some of you encountered will definitely be addressed and fixed before the final release. I'm very optimistic this time. I contributed to the Mandrake 9.x testing process, and could witness Mandrake's lack of interest for tester feedback, in particular when the final release shipped without fixing several critical bugs. Congrats and thanks to the Fedora Core development team! :-) Michael. > yes, boots fine on an old compaq workstation and on a dell latitude C640 > > -- Michael Opdenacker http://opdenacker.org/ From sven.persson at gmx.de Tue Mar 30 13:00:59 2004 From: sven.persson at gmx.de (Sven Persson) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:00:59 +0200 (MEST) Subject: No Sound with FC2 test2 with Audigy (snd-emu10k1) Message-ID: <18281.1080651659@www18.gmx.net> Hi Test-Freax, booting from the first CD of FC2 test1 works fine,btw. system-config-sound detects my SB Audigy1394 but it doesn?t work and the artsd is crashing like hell. Any help? Thx to all the developers and testers who make Fedora rockin? Sven Persson -- +++ NEU bei GMX und erstmalig in Deutschland: T?V-gepr?fter Virenschutz +++ 100% Virenerkennung nach Wildlist. Infos: http://www.gmx.net/virenschutz From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Tue Mar 30 13:10:01 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:10:01 -0500 Subject: Boot Error with SELinux In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: <1080652201.20950.14.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 01:42, Ed Fletcher wrote: > Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized > SELinux: Initializing > SELinux: Starting in permissive mode > There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed > Failure registering capabilities with the kernel > selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module security That's normal. SELinux registers as the primary security module, then the capabilities module tries to register as the primary security module, fails since SELinux is already there, and then proceeds to fallback to registering as the secondary security module. > INIT: version 2.85 booting > audit(1080597019.563:0): avc: denied {getattr} for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init > path=/dev/initctl dev=hdg9 Most likely cause is that your filesystem isn't labeled. What is your filesystem type? Should have occurred during the install, but you can do a fixfiles relabel afterward as well. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue Mar 30 13:23:49 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:23:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> Message-ID: <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Robert P. J. Day said: [snip] > > but all of that assumes you can get the software onto your machine in the > first place. this suggests that, more than anything else, the > installation procedure has to be flogged pretty hard before getting out > the door to make sure it works. Isn't testing the installation procedure the reason there are test releases? A failed test is no less of a test. -- William Hooper From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue Mar 30 13:39:09 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:39:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, William Hooper wrote: > > Robert P. J. Day said: > [snip] > > > > but all of that assumes you can get the software onto your machine in the > > first place. this suggests that, more than anything else, the > > installation procedure has to be flogged pretty hard before getting out > > the door to make sure it works. > > Isn't testing the installation procedure the reason there are test > releases? A failed test is no less of a test. i'm not disagreeing. my point was that it was understandable that the inability to even *install* the beta software might explain the higher frustration level among some of the folks who have posted on the subject. in addition, in a lot of cases, when the installation fails, the poor user is left wondering if it's something *they* did wrong, and they spend a lot of time trying again before they finally realize that it's not their fault. one final point. traditionally, the whole testing cycle suggests that, as one gets closer and closer to the official release, beta releases are theoretically supposed to get more and more reliable. put another way, it's a bit unnerving to suddenly discover that something that worked just fine in test1 is broken in test2, *especially* something as critical and fundamental as installation. anyway, i'm not ranting about this, just making some observations about why some of the previous posters on this topic might be just a bit edgy about it, that's all. rday From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Mar 30 13:47:07 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:47:07 -0600 Subject: yum headers missing from all mirrors - and have not reappeared In-Reply-To: <40696709.4080902@ipk-gatersleben.de> References: <40696709.4080902@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: <1080654427.2510.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 06:24, Ralf Sigmund wrote: > well after spending half an hour reading lengthly discussions on who > might be not responsible for this (it's not yum's fault!).. > ... I still wonder if the headers directory will ever reappear? > maybe development is finished and there is no more need to use yum? Yep, noticed this as well as I mirror rawhide and still no headers directory. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From romanenko.igor at kyivstar.net Tue Mar 30 13:54:21 2004 From: romanenko.igor at kyivstar.net (Igor Romanenko) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:54:21 +0300 Subject: SSH and charset In-Reply-To: <001b01c415c7$8cb27f80$026fa8c0@BETA> References: <200403291418.04845.goodguy@goodguy.spb.ru> <200403291943.05386.romanenko.igor@kyivstar.net> <001b01c415c7$8cb27f80$026fa8c0@BETA> Message-ID: <200403301654.23941.romanenko.igor@kyivstar.net> > IMHO at some stage it will be done anyways as UTF is becoming a de facto > standard for i18n worldwide. 10 years ago there were a lot of different > docs in Cp866, no it is so rare. In my opinion, the same will happen with > national character sets. UTF is handier, there is no doubt about that. And > coming to it as a common standard is just a matter of time. I agree with you on that. The only question is: whether it is feasible to enforce UTF-8 locale in it's current state and taking into account the overly large amount of KOI8-* files? One of the first things people do after installing RedHat here (in Kyiv, Ukraine) is to switch to KOI8. There is even a step-by-step FAQ on that ;) Maybe, it would be nice if the installer asks for preferred encoding after it determines the language setting. > > Best regards, > Igor. Sincerely, -- Igor Romanenko @..@ Office: romanenko.igor at kyivstar.net, +380-67-4656002 (----) Home: igor at frog.kiev.ua ( | | ) "On the Internet nobody knows you are a Frog" " " From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Mar 30 13:58:24 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:58:24 -0600 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 Message-ID: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Ok, after doing a clean install, by creating the first CD and using linux askmethod via NFS install, so far so good. But I discovered a couple of things and not sure how to go about this... 1 - When su'ing to root, I get this.. [mike at bart mike]$ su - Password: su: warning: cannot change directory to /root: Permission denied But I can change to /root manually after I get to root, just not initially on it's own when the su - is issued. 2 - While running mozilla and browsing a directory to import my bookmarks as normal user, it wouldn't let me view the /home dir unless I turn off selinux temporarily (it's back on now though). Do I have to enable/edit something (as in /etc/security/selinux/src/*something*) to allow me to do this? Which I am the only user besides the system/root that logs on here, maybe my username needs admin rights or something? 3 - While trying to start from gnome using redhat/system settings/login screen, it asks for root password but never starts. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Mar 30 14:01:20 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:01:20 -0600 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1080655279.2510.9.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 07:58, Mike Chambers wrote: > 3 - While trying to start from gnome using redhat/system settings/login > screen, it asks for root password but never starts. Running gdmsetup as root from command line does bring it up and allow me to change it. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Mar 30 14:04:56 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:04:56 -0600 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <1080655279.2510.9.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <1080655279.2510.9.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1080655495.2510.11.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 08:01, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 07:58, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > 3 - While trying to start from gnome using redhat/system settings/login > > screen, it asks for root password but never starts. > > Running gdmsetup as root from command line does bring it up and allow me > to change it. Sorry for testing this more thoroughly and sending out just one email, but it seems *nothing* in System Settings will come up when clicking on it. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From alex at nibbles.it Tue Mar 30 14:15:21 2004 From: alex at nibbles.it (Alessandro Polverini) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:15:21 +0200 Subject: A lot of problems with FC2 Test2 X64_64 - detailed description Message-ID: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> Hello, I installed it on a Asus K8V Delux with Athlon63 3200+ CPU, with 2 EIDE disks, 1 serial ATA disk, Sounblaster Audigy soundcard, GeForce FX5600XT. I had many blocking (and not) problems: *** During the install*** - Anaconda (and partitioner) does not detect /dev/hda! It only sees /dev/hdb and /dev/sda (sata disk) - I usually choose english language, but I use italian keyboard, I was not able to choose this one, but only the language - anaconda, after install asks "reboot", but it does not reboot. I had to use ctrl-alt-canc - Anaconda is unable to enter graphic mode, and all the install is done in text mode *** After the boot *** - In the file modprobe.conf there was a bad line: alias dmfe without the ethernet device. This is strange since upper in the file there was the correct line: alias eth2 dmfe - Kudzu starts and the kernel crashes completely telling (sorry. not cut&paste): Kernel bug at generic:664 Invalid operand: 0000[1] ... - After disabling automatic start of kudzu, I tried to configure graphic mode running system-config-display but it stops with this error: file "/usr/share/system-config-fisplay/xconf.py" line 412, in ? hardware_state.merge_into(xconfig) name error: name "hardware_state" is not defined - system-config-soundcard is unusable because it needs X - I loaded modules by hand, and then played a .ogg file with ogg123, I got this error: "Floating Point Exception" So, in practice, the system is unusable for me. Thanks, Alex P.S.: If you reply, please include my address since I'm not subscribed to the list. From ed at eh3.com Tue Mar 30 14:22:10 2004 From: ed at eh3.com (Ed Hill) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:22:10 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> <1080595576.9565.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080656530.5602.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 23:36, Match Grun wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:26:16 -0500 > Will Backman wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:11, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > > > > > At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta > > > > a released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this > > > > one doesn't even start it. > > > > > > Could people report success and hardware specs also? > > > > Like the guy asked... Has anyone managed to get FC2 to boot? Hi Match, Are you also seeing problems with kudzu and the kernel on FC2t2? I have an Athlon system with an ASUS A7V600 motherboard and FC2t2 will hang during boot if I enable kudzu. If I boot with "single" appended to the end of the kernel parameters and remove kudzu from the init list with chkconfig, then the machine seems to work well: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119382 Ed -- Edward H. Hill III, PhD office: MIT Dept. of EAPS; Room 54-1424; 77 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 email: eh3 at mit.edu, ed at eh3.com URL: http://web.mit.edu/eh3/ phone: 617-253-0098 fax: 617-253-4464 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From netopml at newview.com Tue Mar 30 14:22:33 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 30 Mar 2004 09:22:33 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: <406903AC.1090204@plausible.org> References: <20040329232445.GN1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <406903AC.1090204@plausible.org> Message-ID: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) writes: > No offense, but I'm hardly a newbie user and the only steps I > understood above were "reboot". Well, if you're hardly a newbie RTFM... > What's the difference between a policy and a checkpolicy? These are 2 different rpms: Name : policy Relocations: /usr Version : 1.9 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 15 Build Date: Wed 24 Mar 2004 11:28:55 AM EST Install Date: Mon 29 Mar 2004 11:55:29 AM EST Build Host: porky.devel.redhat.com Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM: policy-1.9-15.src.rpm Size : 6473774 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Wed 24 Mar 2004 11:47:55 AM EST, Key ID da84cbd430c9ecf8 Packager : Red Hat, Inc. Summary : SELinux example policy configuration Description : Security-enhanced Linux is a patch of the Linux? kernel and a number of utilities with enhanced security functionality designed to add mandatory access controls to Linux. The Security-enhanced Linux kernel contains new architectural components originally developed to improve the security of the Flask operating system. These architectural components provide general support for the enforcement of many kinds of mandatory access control policies, including those based on the concepts of Type Enforcement?, Role-based Access Control, and Multi-level Security. This package contains the SELinux example policy configuration along with the Flask configuration information and the application configuration files. Name : checkpolicy Relocations: /usr Version : 1.8 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 1 Build Date: Mon 15 Mar 2004 08:58:10 AM EST Install Date: Mon 29 Mar 2004 11:55:27 AM EST Build Host: tweety.devel.redhat.com Group : Development/System Source RPM: checkpolicy-1.8-1.src.rpm Size : 105574 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Wed 17 Mar 2004 01:25:42 PM EST, Key ID da84cbd430c9ecf8 Packager : Red Hat, Inc. Summary : SELinux policy compiler Description : Security-enhanced Linux is a patch of the Linux? kernel and a number of utilities with enhanced security functionality designed to add mandatory access controls to Linux. The Security-enhanced Linux kernel contains new architectural components originally developed to improve the security of the Flask operating system. These architectural components provide general support for the enforcement of many kinds of mandatory access control policies, including those based on the concepts of Type Enforcement?, Role-based Access Control, and Multi-level Security. This package contains checkpolicy, the SELinux policy compiler. Only required for building policies. > Why are the files broken? What's a label, and what was it set to before > that was wrong? The files are not broken but they don't have any roles associated to them (see a role as a kind of userid, it grants you rights). And for selinux to be working correctly, you need to set the roles on the filesystem, so when these files gets loaded the os knows which role to use (you see them by using the -Z option of ls). Seriously, I just had to read the FAQ to deduce this, it's far from covering the whole selinux thing but it's a good beginning... -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Tue Mar 30 14:28:35 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:28:35 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a beta In-Reply-To: References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <1080656915.3176.22.camel@family> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 08:39 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i'm not disagreeing. my point was that it was understandable that the > inability to even *install* the beta software might explain the higher > frustration level among some of the folks who have posted on the subject. I'm one of those who can't boot and I'm not frustrated. It's a new release of beta software with several new things. If I wanted I could have waited a few day for some of the initial bugs to get flushed but I didn't. I really think there's just some trolls out there (or newbie testers). > in addition, in a lot of cases, when the installation fails, the poor user > is left wondering if it's something *they* did wrong, and they spend a lot > of time trying again before they finally realize that it's not their > fault. Welcome to testing :) > one final point. traditionally, the whole testing cycle suggests that, as > one gets closer and closer to the official release, beta releases are > theoretically supposed to get more and more reliable. put another way, > it's a bit unnerving to suddenly discover that something that worked just > fine in test1 is broken in test2, *especially* something as critical and > fundamental as installation. Well I think the release announcement say it all. There are several new things that weren't in FC2T1. And I don't want them to freeze the release to soon. If they do they'll be getting even more static about not updating packages. > anyway, i'm not ranting about this, just making some observations about > why some of the previous posters on this topic might be just a bit edgy > about it, that's all. I wouldn't underestimate the troll factor. :) From netopml at newview.com Tue Mar 30 14:26:48 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 30 Mar 2004 09:26:48 -0500 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) writes: > Ok, after doing a clean install, by creating the first CD and using > linux askmethod via NFS install, so far so good. Some of your questions are in the FAQ: Q:. I installed Fedora Core on a system with an existing /home partition, and now I can't log in. A:. Your /home partition is not labeled correctly. You can fix this by labeling /home correctly: /usr/sbin/setfiles /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts /home You will need to have the policy-sources package installed to use setfiles. Alternately, you can use the fixfiles utility to relabel /home without having to install policy-sources. -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From lowen at pari.edu Tue Mar 30 14:42:28 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:42:28 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200403300942.28745.lowen@pari.edu> [I may regret this, but.....] On Tuesday 30 March 2004 07:47 am, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > Sorry, I won't be so nice. > I see this as plain negligence!! > Who is in charge of Q/A?? We are. You don't like that? Unsubscribe from this list. [Note: I do not work for Red Hat. I do however use Fedora Core in production on critical systems and have a great interest in seeing Core 2 be the best that it can be. Useless rants don't help Fedora be the best it can be.] > And don't give the excuse that this is a test release, I am tired of > hearing that excuse. Then don't try to install a test release. Wait on the official release. I am tired of hearing from people who apparently have no business attempting to install a test release. Test releases are not for newbies and they are not for the faint of heart or for the quick to anger. They are for the patient. If you are not patient do not install the test releases. Ok, so it didn't install. Do something useful: 1.) File a Bugzilla report with your exact hardware, the exact procedure, and all those nice things that Bugzilla asks you for. Be sure to search on various terms for the bug you are describing; spend a little time to save the developers some time and make them more productive. Duplicate bugs yeild less developer productivity. After all, you are installing the test to help the developers, right? 2.) If you don't know how to use Red Hat's bugzilla, then learn how to use Red Hat's bugzilla before you throw a useless rant onto an already crowded mailing list. Continue throwing useless reports on the list and you will find your way into people's killfiles (so that they will simply not see your postings). Perhaps I may be in some people's killfiles already, but I digress... :-) 3.) Remember rule number one: if it isn't in bugzilla, then it isn't a bug. You find a bug; you get to file it. You don't want to spend the time to file it? Don't go bug hunting. Installing the test release is implicit confirmation that you intend to go bug hunting; ergo, if you don't want that responsibility, don't install the test. Pretty simple, no? 4.) If it eats your data, it is your fault for installing it. The announcement is plain and clear (and inimitably funny, thanks to some, ah, 'Interesting' humor interjected by Bill N.); do not install on a machine on which you care about the data. You ignore that warning at your own peril; if you don't like that, then don't install the test. 5.) If you can, investigate what went wrong. Start checking various pieces of hardware; as an example, I had a machine with a generic 52x CDROM, and needed to install Win98. I was using the CD that came with the box, which is a Dell. The CD drive was not original; the original drive had broken. The install went smoothly up to the first reboot, at which point Win98 gave the wonderfully helpful 'Windows Protection Error' screen. Mind you, this is after all the files have been copied off the CD. The short of it is that Win98's 32bit IDE driver would not work with that CD-ROM drive (the install process uses the real mode driver which works fine); I had to find an older drive. The 52X CD drive works great with Win2k and SuSE 9.0. 6.) Think before you post acerbic messages to a publicly archived mailing list, where it can come back to haunt you. 7.) If you fail to heed these simple guidelines, understand that your posting of trash such as this whole thread is counterproductive and hurts the project. But maybe that's the intention. For the original poster, you really need to firm up your bug postings. The original posting had way too little detail to help anyone find the bug; how can you sanely expect the Red Hat developers to have your exact hardware configuration? Just because you have it doesn't mean anyone else has it. Likewise, do you really think Red Hat would release something without ANY internal QA into installation? FC2 Test2 actually does install for some people. The challenge is finding out why it didn't for you, and for a developer that doesn't have your hardware to be able to do that you must provide a constructive report as to your exact hardware configuration. You said _IDE_ CDROM a number of times; you do realize that IDE!=IDE, right? That is, not all IDE controllers are created equal. To verify that, check the IDE driver source in the kernel. So the nForce2 IDE controller and the Intel 845 IDE controller, to pick two fairly popular examples, might require entirely different kernel initialization. Once initialized, they are still a little different and might require different code paths in the driver. What does that mean to you? It means that it might work on my Pentium 4 with the 845 and not with your Athlon with the nForce 2. It would entirely depend upon the modules compiled for the BOOT kernel and the initrd that that kernel loads; if the right drivers are not there, then 'it no workee!' And since the CD boots the BOOT kernel, and the BOOT kernel and the installed kernel are compiled differently, then it might install but not reboot! (I have HAD that to happen on my Athlon laptop back in pre-7.something days; there was a code optimization that broke pretty badly on the Athlon at that time. BTW, that was when I learned not to install a test release on my production hardware.... :-)). FWIW I intend to install the test on several machines; unfortunately not my Athlon laptop (which is my production box) nor my good servers. I may get time to try it on my slightly older AthlonXP box and my socket370 P3-S 1.3G box, but probably not on my ServerWorksIII Xeon box (as it's production and mission-critical). Use some common sense; that's all. Is that too much to ask of testers? ISTM that Red Hat would have a much smaller headache if they went back to the old private beta/public beta scheme. Not to brag or anything (since I was a part of the old private beta team), but Red Hat's private beta program was more than a little bit responsible for the solidity of past beta and production releases. Open development is a two-edged sword, and cuts coming and a-going. As to there being a respin, sure, there will be a respin. It's called test 3. Until then, try to find the problem or a workaround. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Tue Mar 30 14:50:52 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:50:52 -0600 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Install from hard drive fails with "no driver found" when trying to access the hard drive. I have a factory original Dell Dimension XPS T450 with a Maxtor 9gb ide hard drive on primary controller, ide cdrom on secondary controller. Timothy On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 07:39, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, William Hooper wrote: > > > > > Robert P. J. Day said: > > [snip] > > > > > > but all of that assumes you can get the software onto your machine in the > > > first place. this suggests that, more than anything else, the > > > installation procedure has to be flogged pretty hard before getting out > > > the door to make sure it works. > > > > Isn't testing the installation procedure the reason there are test > > releases? A failed test is no less of a test. > > i'm not disagreeing. my point was that it was understandable that the > inability to even *install* the beta software might explain the higher > frustration level among some of the folks who have posted on the subject. > > in addition, in a lot of cases, when the installation fails, the poor user > is left wondering if it's something *they* did wrong, and they spend a lot > of time trying again before they finally realize that it's not their > fault. > > one final point. traditionally, the whole testing cycle suggests that, as > one gets closer and closer to the official release, beta releases are > theoretically supposed to get more and more reliable. put another way, > it's a bit unnerving to suddenly discover that something that worked just > fine in test1 is broken in test2, *especially* something as critical and > fundamental as installation. > > anyway, i'm not ranting about this, just making some observations about > why some of the previous posters on this topic might be just a bit edgy > about it, that's all. > > rday > > From lowen at pari.edu Tue Mar 30 15:02:31 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:02:31 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <200403301002.31246.lowen@pari.edu> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:50 am, Timothy Sandel wrote: > Install from hard drive fails with "no driver found" when trying to > access the hard drive. > I have a factory original Dell Dimension XPS T450 with a Maxtor 9gb ide > hard drive on primary controller, ide cdrom on secondary controller. Is it the original DVD-ROM the Dimensions typically came with, or aftermarket? IIRC, that particular board has problems with certain combinations of UDMA drives. I have an XPS T550 here I can play with to test. Well, actually have a half a dozen, but only one or two I can play with. It currently has SuSE 9.0 on it, but it's a snap to change out the HD. I'll report back with what I find. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From iainr at zathras.org Tue Mar 30 15:08:19 2004 From: iainr at zathras.org (Iain Rae) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:08:19 +0100 Subject: yum headers missing from all mirrors - and have not reappeared In-Reply-To: <1080654427.2510.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <40696709.4080902@ipk-gatersleben.de> <1080654427.2510.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <40698D63.8000604@zathras.org> Mike Chambers wrote: >On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 06:24, Ralf Sigmund wrote: > > >>well after spending half an hour reading lengthly discussions on who >>might be not responsible for this (it's not yum's fault!).. >>... I still wonder if the headers directory will ever reappear? >>maybe development is finished and there is no more need to use yum? >> >> > >Yep, noticed this as well as I mirror rawhide and still no headers >directory. > > > If you mirror rawhide you could always run yum-arch yourself in the meantime. From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue Mar 30 15:18:35 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:18:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a beta In-Reply-To: <1080656915.3176.22.camel@family> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080656915.3176.22.camel@family> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Sandy Pond wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 08:39 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > one final point. traditionally, the whole testing cycle suggests that, as > > one gets closer and closer to the official release, beta releases are > > theoretically supposed to get more and more reliable. put another way, > > it's a bit unnerving to suddenly discover that something that worked just > > fine in test1 is broken in test2, *especially* something as critical and > > fundamental as installation. > > Well I think the release announcement say it all. There are several new > things that weren't in FC2T1. And I don't want them to freeze the > release to soon. If they do they'll be getting even more static about > not updating packages. without trying to beat this to death, there is one thing about this that concerns me. it's already been pointed out that there will likely be no respin, since there is a workaround -- just boot off of the first CD from FC2-t1, and switch to the FC2-t2 CDs after that. fair enough, but what this means is that people who do that are not really testing FC2-t2, are they? technically, they're testing the first install part of FC2-t1, followed by FC2-t2 after that. does this really constitute a technically acceptable beta test, in the strict definition of the word? more to the point, if there is no respin, there will be *no* testing of this part of the install process until FC2-t3, which seems to be leaving it awfully late. think about it -- for all of the other software that is found to have bugs, a fixed version would most likely be dumped into rawhide, at which point, testers can update, test and say, "ok, that fixed it." but based on what i've read, this is not going to happen for the installation code -- there will be no *official* testing of a fix until FC2-t3. am in reading that correctly? rday From tcallawa at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 15:16:05 2004 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom 'spot' Callaway) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:16:05 -0600 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080659765.24521.6.camel@zorak> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 07:47 -0500, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > I see this as plain negligence!! I'm sorry. Consider this a refund of all the money you spent on this test release. :P I suppose it was inevitable that people would complain once they had access to all the betas. Betas break, often in weird and mysterious ways. Red Hat does care, we will do our best to fix the bugs you find (and file in bugzilla), we don't intentionally ship broken code so that we can giggle as errors scroll down your screen. Just because its called a "test" release doesn't make it any less beta. ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not to be published." -- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" From k at dicec.cl Tue Mar 30 15:21:23 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:21:23 -0400 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <200403300942.28745.lowen@pari.edu> References: <200403300942.28745.lowen@pari.edu> Message-ID: <1080660082.25190.6.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> Stoping the flame.... FC2T2 installs on both of my testbed machines a HP vectra PC (i440BX) local and thru NFS install a OEM, Aopen MOBO/Cel1.7, 512 ram, sis chipset, local and thru NFS install On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 10:42, Lamar Owen wrote: > [I may regret this, but.....] > On Tuesday 30 March 2004 07:47 am, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > Sorry, I won't be so nice. > > I see this as plain negligence!! > > Who is in charge of Q/A?? > > We are. You don't like that? Unsubscribe from this list. [Note: I do not > work for Red Hat. I do however use Fedora Core in production on critical > systems and have a great interest in seeing Core 2 be the best that it can > be. Useless rants don't help Fedora be the best it can be.] > > > And don't give the excuse that this is a test release, I am tired of > > hearing that excuse. > > Then don't try to install a test release. Wait on the official release. > > I am tired of hearing from people who apparently have no business attempting > to install a test release. Test releases are not for newbies and they are > not for the faint of heart or for the quick to anger. They are for the > patient. If you are not patient do not install the test releases. > > Ok, so it didn't install. Do something useful: > 1.) File a Bugzilla report with your exact hardware, the exact procedure, and > all those nice things that Bugzilla asks you for. Be sure to search on > various terms for the bug you are describing; spend a little time to save the > developers some time and make them more productive. Duplicate bugs yeild > less developer productivity. After all, you are installing the test to help > the developers, right? > > 2.) If you don't know how to use Red Hat's bugzilla, then learn how to use Red > Hat's bugzilla before you throw a useless rant onto an already crowded > mailing list. Continue throwing useless reports on the list and you will > find your way into people's killfiles (so that they will simply not see your > postings). Perhaps I may be in some people's killfiles already, but I > digress... :-) > > 3.) Remember rule number one: if it isn't in bugzilla, then it isn't a bug. > You find a bug; you get to file it. You don't want to spend the time to file > it? Don't go bug hunting. Installing the test release is implicit > confirmation that you intend to go bug hunting; ergo, if you don't want that > responsibility, don't install the test. Pretty simple, no? > > 4.) If it eats your data, it is your fault for installing it. The > announcement is plain and clear (and inimitably funny, thanks to some, ah, > 'Interesting' humor interjected by Bill N.); do not install on a machine on > which you care about the data. You ignore that warning at your own peril; if > you don't like that, then don't install the test. > > 5.) If you can, investigate what went wrong. Start checking various pieces > of hardware; as an example, I had a machine with a generic 52x CDROM, and > needed to install Win98. I was using the CD that came with the box, which is > a Dell. The CD drive was not original; the original drive had broken. The > install went smoothly up to the first reboot, at which point Win98 gave the > wonderfully helpful 'Windows Protection Error' screen. Mind you, this is > after all the files have been copied off the CD. The short of it is that > Win98's 32bit IDE driver would not work with that CD-ROM drive (the install > process uses the real mode driver which works fine); I had to find an older > drive. The 52X CD drive works great with Win2k and SuSE 9.0. > > 6.) Think before you post acerbic messages to a publicly archived mailing > list, where it can come back to haunt you. > > 7.) If you fail to heed these simple guidelines, understand that your posting > of trash such as this whole thread is counterproductive and hurts the > project. But maybe that's the intention. > > For the original poster, you really need to firm up your bug postings. The > original posting had way too little detail to help anyone find the bug; how > can you sanely expect the Red Hat developers to have your exact hardware > configuration? Just because you have it doesn't mean anyone else has it. > Likewise, do you really think Red Hat would release something without ANY > internal QA into installation? FC2 Test2 actually does install for some > people. The challenge is finding out why it didn't for you, and for a > developer that doesn't have your hardware to be able to do that you must > provide a constructive report as to your exact hardware configuration. > > You said _IDE_ CDROM a number of times; you do realize that IDE!=IDE, right? > That is, not all IDE controllers are created equal. To verify that, check > the IDE driver source in the kernel. So the nForce2 IDE controller and the > Intel 845 IDE controller, to pick two fairly popular examples, might require > entirely different kernel initialization. Once initialized, they are still a > little different and might require different code paths in the driver. What > does that mean to you? It means that it might work on my Pentium 4 with the > 845 and not with your Athlon with the nForce 2. It would entirely depend > upon the modules compiled for the BOOT kernel and the initrd that that kernel > loads; if the right drivers are not there, then 'it no workee!' And since the > CD boots the BOOT kernel, and the BOOT kernel and the installed kernel are > compiled differently, then it might install but not reboot! (I have HAD that > to happen on my Athlon laptop back in pre-7.something days; there was a code > optimization that broke pretty badly on the Athlon at that time. BTW, that > was when I learned not to install a test release on my production > hardware.... :-)). > > FWIW I intend to install the test on several machines; unfortunately not my > Athlon laptop (which is my production box) nor my good servers. I may get > time to try it on my slightly older AthlonXP box and my socket370 P3-S 1.3G > box, but probably not on my ServerWorksIII Xeon box (as it's production and > mission-critical). Use some common sense; that's all. Is that too much to > ask of testers? > > ISTM that Red Hat would have a much smaller headache if they went back to the > old private beta/public beta scheme. Not to brag or anything (since I was a > part of the old private beta team), but Red Hat's private beta program was > more than a little bit responsible for the solidity of past beta and > production releases. Open development is a two-edged sword, and cuts coming > and a-going. > > As to there being a respin, sure, there will be a respin. It's called test 3. > Until then, try to find the problem or a workaround. > -- > Lamar Owen > Director of Information Technology > Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute > 1 PARI Drive > Rosman, NC 28772 > (828)862-5554 > www.pari.edu -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From mail at lotus-notes.net Tue Mar 30 15:28:32 2004 From: mail at lotus-notes.net (mail at lotus-notes.net) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:28:32 -0500 Subject: reboot with FC Core 2 Test 1 & switching to FC Core 2 Test 2 does not work for me, Help with IDEAS? References: <1080659765.24521.6.camel@zorak> Message-ID: <084501c4166b$a951f950$6500a8c0@p428> Everyone: I have tried this on a 2 desktops with Lite-On and Philips Cd drives and also a Thinkpad T30. Both desktops have high-end Gigabyte p4 motherboards and have never given me the slightest problem. I can't seem to get yum 2.61 to work, even though it tells me it has de-installed 2.60 yum it still seems to run though from what I am reading that makes no difference. Anyone have any OTHER way I can get this thing to install? thanks, Lee mail at Lotus-Notes.Net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom 'spot' Callaway" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:16 AM Subject: RE: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 07:47 -0500, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > > I see this as plain negligence!! > > I'm sorry. Consider this a refund of all the money you spent on this > test release. :P > > I suppose it was inevitable that people would complain once they had > access to all the betas. Betas break, often in weird and mysterious > ways. Red Hat does care, we will do our best to fix the bugs you find > (and file in bugzilla), we don't intentionally ship broken code so that > we can giggle as errors scroll down your screen. Just because its called > a "test" release doesn't make it any less beta. > > ~spot > --- > Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE > Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader > > "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is > novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present > social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not > to be published." -- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From zumbi3 at free.fr Tue Mar 30 15:33:52 2004 From: zumbi3 at free.fr (Michael Opdenacker) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:33:52 +0200 Subject: No video player in FC2 test2! Message-ID: <40699360.5010001@free.fr> Hello, For your information, there is no video player in Fedora Core 2 test2: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=105676 I hope this can be addressed in the final release, otherwise such a player will definitely be missing to most users! Cheers, Michael. -- Michael Opdenacker http://opdenacker.org/ From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Mar 30 15:35:25 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:35:25 -0600 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 In-Reply-To: References: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1080660925.1787.4.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 08:26, netopml at newview.com wrote: > Your /home partition is not labeled correctly. You can fix this by labeling > /home correctly: Finally, ended up running the full blown make;make relabel and rebooted after trial and error a couple of times. Can even access /home now. Still having problems with running the system-config programs under the Gnome menus. Such as redhat/System Settings/Login Screen. It asks for root password but keeps asking and doesn't bring up the program. So far none of them work and do the same thing. I did edit /etc/sysconfig/security/src/policy/user file and added myself as normal user before doing the relabeling. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 30 15:41:21 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:41:21 -0500 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <200403301041.21810.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 08:58, Mike Chambers wrote: > Ok, after doing a clean install, by creating the first CD and using > linux askmethod via NFS install, so far so good. > > But I discovered a couple of things and not sure how to go about this... > > 1 - When su'ing to root, I get this.. > > [mike at bart mike]$ su - > Password: > su: warning: cannot change directory to /root: Permission denied > > But I can change to /root manually after I get to root, just not > initially on it's own when the su - is issued. I see this too (and have seen it with my recent development-snapshit installs). This looks like a bug to me and I have been meaning to file a report on it. I will give you the pleasure. [snip] > > 3 - While trying to start from gnome using redhat/system settings/login > screen, it asks for root password but never starts. I suspect this is the same thing I saw with system-config-soundcard being invoked. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119433 I am sure the problem is not really against s-c-s but ffiled it there figuring it would get properly assigned by someone who understood the problem. You might try and run the programs from a terminal to see if you get the "Could not set exec context to user_u:sysadm_r:sysadm_t." message also. -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 30 15:44:53 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:44:53 -0500 Subject: A lot of problems with FC2 Test2 X64_64 - detailed description In-Reply-To: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> References: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> Message-ID: <200403301044.53682.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:15, Alessandro Polverini wrote: > - Anaconda (and partitioner) does not detect /dev/hda! It only sees > /dev/hdb and /dev/sda (sata disk) That is strange. My SATA drive comes up as scsi on FC1 (2.4 kernel) but ide on FC2 (2.6 kernel). -- Gene From jbinpg at shaw.ca Tue Mar 30 15:46:32 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:46:32 -0800 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <20040330154632.GA1368@shaw.ca> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:55:23PM +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 4:01 am, Alan Santos wrote: > > I'm one more sample with a problem when partitioning, and a reference to > > bugzilla for another. > > > > But calling it a joke is too inflammatory and insulting to the people > > who have spent many hours working on it so far. > > > > > You are absolutely right. It is not just the developer alone. Consider the > people who download the ISO's over relatively slow links and try it on their > machines, just to find their data just vanished. procmail to the rescue.... -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 30 15:48:16 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:48:16 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080656530.5602.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> <1080656530.5602.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200403301048.16570.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:22, Ed Hill wrote: > Are you also seeing problems with kudzu and the kernel on FC2t2? I have > an Athlon system with an ASUS A7V600 motherboard and FC2t2 will hang > during boot if I enable kudzu. > > If I boot with "single" appended to the end of the kernel parameters and > remove kudzu from the init list with chkconfig, then the machine seems > to work well: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119382 I see a kudzu related problem also (ASUS SK8V) and suspect it may be related to the 3Com 3C940 (sk98lin supported). Take a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118546 The one time that the bootup did not hang, the 3C940 did not initialize. -- Gene From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Tue Mar 30 15:48:27 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:48:27 -0600 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Even though the install from HD fails the install from CD works fine. Timothy On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 08:50, Timothy Sandel wrote: > Install from hard drive fails with "no driver found" when trying to > access the hard drive. > > I have a factory original Dell Dimension XPS T450 with a Maxtor 9gb ide > hard drive on primary controller, ide cdrom on secondary controller. > > Timothy > > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 07:39, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, William Hooper wrote: > > > > > > > > Robert P. J. Day said: > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > but all of that assumes you can get the software onto your machine in the > > > > first place. this suggests that, more than anything else, the > > > > installation procedure has to be flogged pretty hard before getting out > > > > the door to make sure it works. > > > > > > Isn't testing the installation procedure the reason there are test > > > releases? A failed test is no less of a test. > > > > i'm not disagreeing. my point was that it was understandable that the > > inability to even *install* the beta software might explain the higher > > frustration level among some of the folks who have posted on the subject. > > > > in addition, in a lot of cases, when the installation fails, the poor user > > is left wondering if it's something *they* did wrong, and they spend a lot > > of time trying again before they finally realize that it's not their > > fault. > > > > one final point. traditionally, the whole testing cycle suggests that, as > > one gets closer and closer to the official release, beta releases are > > theoretically supposed to get more and more reliable. put another way, > > it's a bit unnerving to suddenly discover that something that worked just > > fine in test1 is broken in test2, *especially* something as critical and > > fundamental as installation. > > > > anyway, i'm not ranting about this, just making some observations about > > why some of the previous posters on this topic might be just a bit edgy > > about it, that's all. > > > > rday > > > > > From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 15:52:17 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:52:17 -0500 Subject: FC2 T2 Install Notes Message-ID: <1080661937.2041.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Fresh Install on an Intel 440BX-2 mobo, PIII 600, 192MB Ram. Looks good, performance good, sound card and video card detected. During install, looked at console 4, lots of "<3>audit avc: denied...exe=/usr/sbin/groupadd..." During Install, clicking on the release notes button produced "viewer missing at /usr/lib/anaconda/iw/release_notes_viewer_gui.py" messages on console 3. So far so good... -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From lowen at pari.edu Tue Mar 30 15:56:54 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:56:54 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080660082.25190.6.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> References: <200403300942.28745.lowen@pari.edu> <1080660082.25190.6.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> Message-ID: <200403301056.54582.lowen@pari.edu> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 10:21 am, Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: > Stoping the flame.... Digging a little deeper in steps, eh? (Stoping is stepwise strip-mining, but I'm sure you meant stopping... ;-)). (OT: a man got out of a ticket in the US one time due to that misspelling: the sign said 'No Stoping', he stopped at the sign, got a ticket, and beat it in court because he was not 'stoping' -- that is, strip mining -- in front of the sign. English is a very broken language, no?) > FC2T2 installs on both of my testbed machines > a HP vectra PC (i440BX) local and thru NFS install > a OEM, Aopen MOBO/Cel1.7, 512 ram, sis chipset, local and thru NFS > install Good news. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From k at dicec.cl Tue Mar 30 16:00:20 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:00:20 -0400 Subject: FC2 T2 Install Notes In-Reply-To: <1080661937.2041.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080661937.2041.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1080662419.25190.15.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> i had the same messages on console4, the <3>audit: i think .... ONLY think that is output from selinux? the NFS install, works from the iso images and from a files repository... my $2c Tue, 2004-03-30 at 11:52, Will Backman wrote: > Fresh Install on an Intel 440BX-2 mobo, PIII 600, 192MB Ram. > Looks good, performance good, sound card and video card detected. > > During install, looked at console 4, lots of "<3>audit avc: > denied...exe=/usr/sbin/groupadd..." > > During Install, clicking on the release notes button produced "viewer > missing at /usr/lib/anaconda/iw/release_notes_viewer_gui.py" messages on > console 3. > > So far so good... > -- > Will Backman > Coastal Enterprises, Inc. -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Tue Mar 30 16:04:46 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:04:46 +0200 Subject: No video player in FC2 test2! In-Reply-To: <40699360.5010001@free.fr> References: <40699360.5010001@free.fr> Message-ID: <20040330180446.125ce06c.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:33:52 +0200, Michael Opdenacker wrote: > For your information, there is no video player in Fedora Core 2 test2: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=105676 > > I hope this can be addressed in the final release, otherwise such a > player will definitely be missing to most users! Multimedia software for Fedora _Core_ (!) is available in form of add-ons: http://rpm.livna.org From reader at newsguy.com Tue Mar 30 16:05:55 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:05:55 -0600 Subject: FC2 test2 is a beta In-Reply-To: <1080656915.3176.22.camel@family> (Sandy Pond's message of "Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:28:35 -0500") References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080656915.3176.22.camel@family> Message-ID: Sandy Pond writes: > I'm one of those who can't boot and I'm not frustrated. It's a new > release of beta software with several new things. If I wanted I could > have waited a few day for some of the initial bugs to get flushed but I > didn't. Where should we send the `halo' : ) From cra at WPI.EDU Tue Mar 30 16:10:50 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:10:50 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a beta In-Reply-To: References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080656915.3176.22.camel@family> Message-ID: <20040330161050.GV1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:18:35AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > more to the point, if there is no respin, there will be *no* testing of > this part of the install process until FC2-t3, which seems to be leaving > it awfully late. There isn't really much to that first part--it is just isolinux bootloader displaying the menu and loading a kernel/initrd of the swapped CD. > but based on what i've read, this is not going to happen for the > installation code -- there will be no *official* testing of a fix until > FC2-t3. am in reading that correctly? You can always install directly from rawhide by downloading the boot.iso from there. From linuxnow at newtral.org Tue Mar 30 16:11:02 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Timothy Sandel wrote: > Even though the install from HD fails the install from CD works fine. I tried to install from the x86_64 DVD to no luck. It doesn't detect the hard disk. I've tred from the console with fdisk and neither could I. Any hints on how to overcome this problem? Pau From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Mar 30 16:16:40 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:16:40 -0600 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <200403301041.21810.czar@czarc.net> References: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <200403301041.21810.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1080663399.2569.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:41, Gene C. wrote: > I see this too (and have seen it with my recent development-snapshit > installs). This looks like a bug to me and I have been meaning to file a > report on it. I will give you the pleasure. LOL, well all I did (I think) was edit the users file for selinux and added myself as normal user. Reran the make;make relabel and I believe that is what fixed it. > I suspect this is the same thing I saw with system-config-soundcard being > invoked. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119433 > > I am sure the problem is not really against s-c-s but ffiled it there figuring > it would get properly assigned by someone who understood the problem. > > You might try and run the programs from a terminal to see if you get the > "Could not set exec context to user_u:sysadm_r:sysadm_t." message also. Ran a few system-config-* commands and they all seem to work as root from command line, just not from the menu's when the root password is involked. PS. up2date doesn't seem to work that way either, except via command line. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Tue Mar 30 16:19:18 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:19:18 +0200 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <1080663557.6313.37.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Again we have returned to philosophical issues of the purpose of the test release. According to the wording on the schedule page of Fedora, there is an expectation that a test release is something that you can run for a few weeks and find its various bugs. If you can't install, you can't do that. On the other hand, the attitude in this group has been that a test release is a snapshot which reflects some sense of consistency of the parts. The failures that are encountered in installing accomplish the desired goal. The installer is found to not work in enough environments. The testers are expected to document this issue, use this group to get around the problem, and then go on to test other issues. In the meantime they are expected to keep current with rawhide. The failure of the installer, is just one issue; it should not stand in the way of other testing since the failure can be circumvented. I do strongly suggest to the powers that be that read this mailing list, that the wording on the schedule page be changed to reflect the expectations of the responders here. I'd also like to see that there at least an unofficial way to test the installer before test3. It has been pointed out that RedHat doesn't have all of the hardware configurations that have been shown to break in this test release. Give the testers something new to try, i.e., the equivalent of staying in sync with Rawhide. On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:23, William Hooper wrote: > Robert P. J. Day said: > [snip] > > > > but all of that assumes you can get the software onto your machine in the > > first place. this suggests that, more than anything else, the > > installation procedure has to be flogged pretty hard before getting out > > the door to make sure it works. > > Isn't testing the installation procedure the reason there are test > releases? A failed test is no less of a test. > > -- > William Hooper > From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 30 16:29:40 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:29:40 -0500 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <1080663399.2569.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <200403301041.21810.czar@czarc.net> <1080663399.2569.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <200403301129.40385.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 11:16, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:41, Gene C. wrote: > > I see this too (and have seen it with my recent development-snapshit > > installs). This looks like a bug to me and I have been meaning to file a > > report on it. I will give you the pleasure. > > LOL, well all I did (I think) was edit the users file for selinux and > added myself as normal user. Reran the make;make relabel and I believe > that is what fixed it. If I could spell/type I would be dangerous. I meant snapshot! I had pretty good luck with the recent ones actually. If I do "su -" from a user which has an admin role defined, then it works properly and changes to root's home directory. However, if I do "su -" from a regular (default role) defined user, then it does not change directories. -- Gene From k at dicec.cl Tue Mar 30 16:29:39 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:29:39 -0400 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <1080664178.25190.24.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> may i ask on which hardware plataform are your trying to install? intel p4 / 875P ich5? serial ata disk? perhaps? or something alike? K. On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 12:11, Pau Aliagas wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Timothy Sandel wrote: > > > Even though the install from HD fails the install from CD works fine. > > I tried to install from the x86_64 DVD to no luck. It doesn't detect the > hard disk. I've tred from the console with fdisk and neither could I. > > Any hints on how to overcome this problem? > Pau -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 16:30:33 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:30:33 -0500 Subject: up2date problems Message-ID: <1080664233.2057.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Anyone else seeing up2date problems? Applet has launch up2date button, which asks for root password, then does nothing. up2date from command line kinda words, selexts a mirrir, but all packages show 0kb size. Anyone else getting this. From notting at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 16:32:06 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:32:06 -0500 Subject: yum headers missing from all mirrors - and have not reappeared In-Reply-To: <1080654427.2510.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <40696709.4080902@ipk-gatersleben.de> <1080654427.2510.0.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <20040330163206.GJ23010@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Mike Chambers (mike at netlyncs.com) said: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 06:24, Ralf Sigmund wrote: > > well after spending half an hour reading lengthly discussions on who > > might be not responsible for this (it's not yum's fault!).. > > ... I still wonder if the headers directory will ever reappear? > > maybe development is finished and there is no more need to use yum? > > Yep, noticed this as well as I mirror rawhide and still no headers > directory. It's a bug, should get cleared up in the next day or so. Bill From mark at harddata.com Tue Mar 30 16:37:41 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:37:41 -0700 Subject: A lot of problems with FC2 Test2 X64_64 - detailed description In-Reply-To: <200403301044.53682.czar@czarc.net> References: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> <200403301044.53682.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <200403300937.41267.mark@harddata.com> On March 30, 2004 08:44 am, "Gene C." wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:15, Alessandro Polverini wrote: > > - Anaconda (and partitioner) does not detect /dev/hda! It only sees > > /dev/hdb and /dev/sda (sata disk) > > That is strange. My SATA drive comes up as scsi on FC1 (2.4 kernel) but > ide on FC2 (2.6 kernel). There's two drivers. The straight via driver that is in 2.6.x or the libata driver that is in both. I am currently using the VIA driver with my custom 2.6.4 kernel but I may switch to libata. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 16:44:41 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:44:41 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Evolution Problems Message-ID: <1080665080.2057.11.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Clicking on a link in e-mail body does not launch browser, nor does right-click "launch in browser". Looks like epiphany %s is the deafult, although it seems to be not installed on a Personal Workstation install. Right clicking on IMAP folder in tree-view does not produce a pop-up menu allowing me to add my IMAP INBOX to the shortcut bar. Anyone else getting these errors? From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue Mar 30 16:46:01 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:46:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a beta In-Reply-To: <20040330161050.GV1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080656915.3176.22.camel@family> <20040330161050.GV1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:18:35AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > more to the point, if there is no respin, there will be *no* testing of > > this part of the install process until FC2-t3, which seems to be leaving > > it awfully late. > > There isn't really much to that first part--it is just isolinux > bootloader displaying the menu and loading a kernel/initrd of the > swapped CD. i understand that -- i was just being my normally pedantic self. :-P rday From linuxnow at newtral.org Tue Mar 30 16:44:50 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:44:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080664178.25190.24.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080664178.25190.24.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: > may i ask on which hardware plataform are your trying to install? > intel p4 / 875P ich5? serial ata disk? perhaps? or something alike? An Acer 1502 laptop based on AMD64. > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 12:11, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Timothy Sandel wrote: > > > > > Even though the install from HD fails the install from CD works fine. > > > > I tried to install from the x86_64 DVD to no luck. It doesn't detect the > > hard disk. I've tred from the console with fdisk and neither could I. > > > > Any hints on how to overcome this problem? > > Pau > -- > Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) > Linux Chief Engineer > RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) > > DICEC Ltda. > Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. > Phone (56 2) 2633340 > Fax (56 2) 2071820 > Mobile (56 9) 4195632 > > All Your Base Are Belong To Tux > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Pau From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 30 16:47:42 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:47:42 -0500 Subject: windoze media player? Message-ID: <200403301147.47249.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I can't seem get any windoze media player to work on FC2. I used to use kaffeine with FC1, but now it seems to be broken I have mplayer, kaffeine both from livna, but they don't seem to work. Here is one example of something I'm trying to play: http://www.cartalk.com/Radio/Show/Audio/200413/wms/CT0413-SHOW.asx Anyone else have any better result? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAaaSxMDqogpR5tkMRAimfAJ90Y4lXVJqsz1QHA+iKmKCRZQy1RQCaA+lK 40HM21MYLlXPLproFQLKDkM= =hhp2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From k at dicec.cl Tue Mar 30 16:50:47 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:50:47 -0400 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080664178.25190.24.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> Message-ID: <1080665447.25190.27.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> ummm that could be the source of the problem... is the IDE controller supported on 2.6.3? can you figure out the chipset name/model? On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 12:44, Pau Aliagas wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: > > > may i ask on which hardware plataform are your trying to install? > > intel p4 / 875P ich5? serial ata disk? perhaps? or something alike? > > An Acer 1502 laptop based on AMD64. > > > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 12:11, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Timothy Sandel wrote: > > > > > > > Even though the install from HD fails the install from CD works fine. > > > > > > I tried to install from the x86_64 DVD to no luck. It doesn't detect the > > > hard disk. I've tred from the console with fdisk and neither could I. > > > > > > Any hints on how to overcome this problem? > > > Pau > > -- > > Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) > > Linux Chief Engineer > > RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) > > > > DICEC Ltda. > > Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. > > Phone (56 2) 2633340 > > Fax (56 2) 2071820 > > Mobile (56 9) 4195632 > > > > All Your Base Are Belong To Tux > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > Pau -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From asantos at progress.com Tue Mar 30 16:51:08 2004 From: asantos at progress.com (Alan Santos) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:51:08 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080664178.25190.24.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> Message-ID: <4069A57C.9020403@progress.com> Pau, look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118941 It appears that all of the amd64 laptops have the same problem. Pau Aliagas wrote: >On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: > > > >>may i ask on which hardware plataform are your trying to install? >>intel p4 / 875P ich5? serial ata disk? perhaps? or something alike? >> >> > >An Acer 1502 laptop based on AMD64. > > > >>On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 12:11, Pau Aliagas wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Timothy Sandel wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Even though the install from HD fails the install from CD works fine. >>>> >>>> >>>I tried to install from the x86_64 DVD to no luck. It doesn't detect the >>>hard disk. I've tred from the console with fdisk and neither could I. >>> >>>Any hints on how to overcome this problem? >>>Pau >>> >>> >>-- >>Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) >>Linux Chief Engineer >>RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) >> >>DICEC Ltda. >>Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. >>Phone (56 2) 2633340 >>Fax (56 2) 2071820 >>Mobile (56 9) 4195632 >> >>All Your Base Are Belong To Tux >> >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> >> >> > > >Pau > > > > From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Mar 30 16:51:20 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:51:20 -0600 Subject: FC2T2 Evolution Problems In-Reply-To: <1080665080.2057.11.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080665080.2057.11.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1080665480.3017.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 10:44, Will Backman wrote: > Clicking on a link in e-mail body does not launch browser, nor does > right-click "launch in browser". Looks like epiphany %s is the deafult, > although it seems to be not installed on a Personal Workstation install. Yep, and got it fixed. Mozilla is not selected as the default browser in file types and programs, even if epiphany or whatever isn't even installed. I think that is a bug. But you have to go to preferences/file types and programs and edit internet/http and https and add ftp if you want the links to work. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From Baer at BaerSolutions.com Tue Mar 30 16:55:19 2004 From: Baer at BaerSolutions.com (R. Scott Baer) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:55:19 -0500 Subject: ssh problem .. No route to host In-Reply-To: <1080665080.2057.11.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080665080.2057.11.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <4069A677.7080702@BaerSolutions.com> I'm trying to ssh to the newly installed FC2 test2... I'm not a t the box right now, so I cant double check the network settings, but every thing should have been fine. Its getting the DHCP info from a Linksys box, which also gives out address for 4 other box's I have.. When I installed last night, i did ssh out of that box, to both of my other linux boxes ( both running fc1 ). I have cleared the .ssh/known_hosts of entries that were created when fc2 test 1 was on this box. 2 fc1 boxes get the same message below selinux is enabled ============ [root at myhost root]# ssh 192.168.1.104 ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.104 port 22: No route to host [root at myhost root]# ping -c 1 192.168.1.104 PING 192.168.1.104 (192.168.1.104) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.292 ms --- 192.168.1.104 ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.292/0.292/0.292/0.000 ms, pipe 2 ============ If this looks like it is not something to do with fc2 test 2, I can try to figure it out on some other list.. Scott From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Tue Mar 30 16:57:04 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:57:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: Oracle 10g on FC2T1 In-Reply-To: <001e01c41650$f101d380$0101010a@whitestar> References: <001e01c41650$f101d380$0101010a@whitestar> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, K,N,D Farnik wrote: > Janusz wrote: > > It looks like there is a solution > > export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 > > does the trick > Tried that, no luck. Did U actually run it? I have now, and it works for me (on FC2T2 permissive mode, with a database installed on FC2T1). Michael Young From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 16:58:18 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:58:18 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 rhn-applet-gui Message-ID: <1080665898.1913.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Any reason rhn-applet-gui is taking up so much memory? Sorting by memory usage in "top" places it between evolutiona and nautilus. Anyone else? From davej at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 17:00:06 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:00:06 +0100 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080663557.6313.37.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080663557.6313.37.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <1080666006.12341.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 17:19, shmuel siegel wrote: > I'd also like to see that there at > least an unofficial way to test the installer before test3. It has been > pointed out that RedHat doesn't have all of the hardware configurations > that have been shown to break in this test release. Give the testers > something new to try, i.e., the equivalent of staying in sync with > Rawhide. You can grab boot.iso from rawhide at any time, and should be able to install from it. Between test1 and test2, I did this quite a few times, and it worked each time. I did installs over nfs (with an rsync'd mirror), but there's no reason the install over ftp/http wouldn't also work. Dave From linuxnow at newtral.org Tue Mar 30 17:00:45 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:00:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <1080665447.25190.27.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080664178.25190.24.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> <1080665447.25190.27.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: > > An Acer 1502 laptop based on AMD64. > ummm that could be the source of the problem... is the IDE controller > supported on 2.6.3? > > can you figure out the chipset name/model? I was able to install and still run: * Fedora Core 1 Test 1 * Fedora Core 1 * upgrade to development via yum. I have it devoted to testing, with two partitions fully working (FC1 and development). So it's kind of strange that the previous two releases were installable, but not this one. I wanted to test the installer, erasing the Core 1. This is the lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8385 [K8T800 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 01)00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800 South] 00:0a.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g (rev 03) 00:0b.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev aa) 00:0b.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev aa) 00:0b.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C552 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 02) 00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03) 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 80) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 80) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 80) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) 00:11.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Intel 537 [AC97 Modem] (rev 80) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] Pau From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 17:04:30 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:04:30 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 GOK fatal error Message-ID: <1080666269.2338.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> GOK gives me a: GOK Fatal Error Sorry, Gok can't run because: Can't read any keyboards Anyone else get this? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From zumbi3 at free.fr Tue Mar 30 17:05:27 2004 From: zumbi3 at free.fr (Michael Opdenacker) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:05:27 +0200 Subject: No video player in FC2 test2! In-Reply-To: <20040330180446.125ce06c.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <40699360.5010001@free.fr> <20040330180446.125ce06c.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <4069A8D7.8070501@free.fr> Hi Michael, You're right! When I was using FC1, I got apt-get from freshrpms.net, and I didn't remember that it picked up video applications from an extra location. Thanks for correcting me! Cheers, Michael. > >Multimedia software for Fedora _Core_ (!) is available in form of add-ons: >http://rpm.livna.org > > > > > -- Michael Opdenacker http://opdenacker.org/ From linuxnow at newtral.org Tue Mar 30 17:11:22 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <4069A57C.9020403@progress.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080664178.25190.24.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> <4069A57C.9020403@progress.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Alan Santos wrote: > Pau, look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118941 > > It appears that all of the amd64 laptops have the same problem. > >An Acer 1502 laptop based on AMD64. That's it! Strange that previous versions were installable. I'll try the mknod trick or downloading a boot.iso from devel. Thanks for your help Pau From alex at nibbles.it Tue Mar 30 17:14:08 2004 From: alex at nibbles.it (Alessandro Polverini) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:14:08 +0200 Subject: libata vs via drivers (was: Re: A lot of problems with FC2 Test2 X64_64 - detailed description) In-Reply-To: <200403300937.41267.mark@harddata.com> References: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> <200403301044.53682.czar@czarc.net> <200403300937.41267.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: <1080666848.7748.36.camel@japot> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 18:37, Mark wrote: > [...] > > That is strange. My SATA drive comes up as scsi on FC1 (2.4 kernel) but > > ide on FC2 (2.6 kernel). > > There's two drivers. The straight via driver that is in 2.6.x or the libata > driver that is in both. I am currently using the VIA driver with my custom > 2.6.4 kernel but I may switch to libata. What are the pros and cons of one driver respect to the other? Alex From bcs at metacon.ca Tue Mar 30 17:29:17 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:29:17 -0400 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080594946.29413.11.camel@zephyr> <1080595576.9565.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040329213613.0a3f1fa6@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080667756.29413.13.camel@zephyr> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 00:36, Match Grun wrote: > > Like the guy asked... Has anyone managed to get FC2 to boot? The DVD booted fine for me (Shuttle MN31-N mobo). I haven't tried the CDs. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From Dan.Kelley at Dal.Ca Tue Mar 30 17:36:30 2004 From: Dan.Kelley at Dal.Ca (Dan Kelley) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:36:30 -0400 Subject: how many FC2T2 testers are there? Message-ID: I got a bit burned testing FC2T1 (eventually dropping it and moving to Sun Java Desktop instead), so I'm wondering how many testers there are for FC2T2. Is there a graph somewhere that shows this? E.G. the x-axis could be time, and the y-axis could show timeseries of variables such as a) posting rate on this list b) number of bug fixes c) number of testers etc., presented either per-day or cumulative. From the graph, a timid tester like me could see whether now is the time to wade in and help in the testing. That is, folks could gauge their own expertise level, and then decide when their joining the test panel would be of any use. (Personally, I'd like to join after firewall stuff worked, for example; that wasted some time for me before since I know too little about it.) I imagine that some of this could be automated easily. (I realize that [c] might be more difficult unless there is a website where folks register, but perhaps it could be just the number of subscribers to this list.) Dan E. Kelley, Associate Professor phone:(902)494-1694 Oceanography Department, Dalhousie University fax:(902)494-2885 Halifax, Nova Scotia mailto:Dan.Kelley at Dal.CA Canada B3H 4J1 http://www.phys.ocean.dal.ca/~kelley/Kelley_Dan.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From dlt at mebtel.net Tue Mar 30 17:53:21 2004 From: dlt at mebtel.net (Derek Tattersall) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:53:21 -0500 Subject: SEL message Message-ID: <20040330175321.GA28290@mebtel.net> Using YUM update on FC2 test2 I get the following message: warning: setexeccon(root:staff_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context "root:staff_r:staff_t": Invalid argument It doesn't seem to cause a problem, (the security context is warning), but I am trying to come up to speed on SELinux and I've got a fair ways to go. Should I be worried about this message? What insufficiency on my part is causing it? Thanks, -- Derek Tattersall dlt at mebtel.net From linuxnow at newtral.org Tue Mar 30 17:55:36 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:55:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <4069B37B.4050102@progress.com> References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080664178.25190.24.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> <4069A57C.9020403@progress.com> <4069B37B.4050102@progress.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Alan Santos wrote: > > Pau Aliagas wrote: > > > > >That's it! Strange that previous versions were installable. > >I'll try the mknod trick or downloading a boot.iso from devel. > Please let me know how that goes. mknod does not work for me. Anaconda keeps on not seeing the disc. I'll try boot.iso tomorrow. Pau From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 17:58:40 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:58:40 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 GOK fatal error In-Reply-To: <1080666269.2338.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080666269.2338.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1080669519.2338.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Looks to be bug #118504 On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 12:04, Will Backman wrote: > GOK gives me a: > GOK Fatal Error > Sorry, Gok can't run because: > Can't read any keyboards > > > Anyone else get this? > -- > Will Backman > Coastal Enterprises, Inc. > From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 18:02:47 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:02:47 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 man problems Message-ID: <1080669767.2338.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> If I type man find or man ps, I type "q" to get out. It spits out errors. /usr/bin/nroff: line 69: 2472 Done /usr/bin/iconv -f ${charset_in} -t utf-8 ${TMPFILE} 2473 | /usr/bin/groff -mtty-char -Tutf8 $opts 2>/dev/null 2474 Broken pipe | /usr/bin/iconv -f utf-8 -t ${charset_out}//translit Anyone else get this? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From joe at swelltech.com Tue Mar 30 18:10:14 2004 From: joe at swelltech.com (Joe Cooper) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:10:14 -0600 Subject: ssh problem .. No route to host In-Reply-To: <4069A677.7080702@BaerSolutions.com> References: <1080665080.2057.11.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <4069A677.7080702@BaerSolutions.com> Message-ID: <4069B806.1050702@swelltech.com> The default firewall on Fedora 1 does this, so I presume the same silly settings exist on FC2 test. Stop iptables, and try again: service iptables stop R. Scott Baer wrote: > I'm trying to ssh to the newly installed FC2 test2... > > I'm not a t the box right now, so I cant double check the network > settings, but every thing should have been fine. Its getting the DHCP > info from a Linksys box, which also gives out address for 4 other box's > I have.. When I installed last night, i did ssh out of that box, to > both of my other linux boxes ( both running fc1 ). I have cleared the > .ssh/known_hosts of entries that were created when fc2 test 1 was on > this box. > 2 fc1 boxes get the same message below > selinux is enabled > > ============ > [root at myhost root]# ssh 192.168.1.104 > ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.104 port 22: No route to host > > [root at myhost root]# ping -c 1 192.168.1.104 > PING 192.168.1.104 (192.168.1.104) 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.292 ms > > --- 192.168.1.104 ping statistics --- > 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.292/0.292/0.292/0.000 ms, pipe 2 > ============ > > If this looks like it is not something to do with fc2 test 2, > I can try to figure it out on some other list.. > > Scott > > -- Joe Cooper Web caching appliances and support. http://www.swelltech.com From ed at eh3.com Tue Mar 30 18:15:44 2004 From: ed at eh3.com (Ed Hill) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:15:44 -0500 Subject: how many FC2T2 testers are there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080670543.5602.62.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 12:36, Dan Kelley wrote: > I got a bit burned testing FC2T1 (eventually dropping it and moving > toSun Java Desktop instead), so I'm wondering how many testers there > arefor FC2T2. Is there a graph somewhere that shows this? E.G. > thex-axis could be time, and the y-axis could show timeseries > ofvariables such as > a) posting rate on this list > b) number of bug fixes > c) number of testers > etc., presented either per-day or cumulative. The above would be a neat thing to see. Perhaps gathering data from the updates servers would be the easiest way to guess how many machines are in use and what versions they are running. FWIW, FC2t2 is running nicely on one of my machines which is an: Athlon w/ Asus A7V600 motherboard Ed -- Edward H. 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SELinux registers as the primary security module, then > the capabilities module tries to register as the primary security That still wants fixing though. Users react badly to combinations of words like "failure" and "security", and I dont think anyone wants to condition them otherwise Alan -- "You do my code an injustice there... I've put comments in mine." - David Howells From ramzes at paramon.com Tue Mar 30 18:18:24 2004 From: ramzes at paramon.com (Roman Seleznev) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:18:24 +0300 Subject: FC2 test2 boot problem::smart boot manager Message-ID: <4069B9F0.9000909@paramon.com> As many other testers I cannot boot directly from cd1. Maybe someone could find it useful : To solve this problem I used smart boot manager ( boot from cd option ). http://btmgr.sourceforge.net Also it really helps me in using of several linuxes and windowses on same machine. I could suggest everybody to have floppy with smart boot manager on their desks - it saved me many times :) Regards, Roman. From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 18:19:18 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:19:18 -0500 Subject: A lot of problems with FC2 Test2 X64_64 - detailed description In-Reply-To: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> References: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> Message-ID: <20040330181918.GB15762@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:15:21PM +0200, Alessandro Polverini wrote: > without the ethernet device. This is strange since upper in the file > there was the correct line: > alias eth2 dmfe Try setting it to use tulip not dmfe. From michal at harddata.com Tue Mar 30 18:25:25 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:25:25 -0700 Subject: FC2T2 man problems In-Reply-To: <1080669767.2338.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org>; from whb@ceimaine.org on Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 01:02:47PM -0500 References: <1080669767.2338.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <20040330112525.B20195@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 01:02:47PM -0500, Will Backman wrote: > If I type man find or man ps, I type "q" to get out. > It spits out errors. > /usr/bin/nroff: line 69: 2472 Done /usr/bin/iconv -f > ${charset_in} -t utf-8 ${TMPFILE} > 2473 | /usr/bin/groff -mtty-char -Tutf8 > $opts 2>/dev/null > 2474 Broken pipe | /usr/bin/iconv -f utf-8 -t > ${charset_out}//translit > > > Anyone else get this? See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=71130 and a long list of comments to that one. Michal From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 30 18:25:33 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:25:33 -0500 Subject: up2date problems In-Reply-To: <1080664233.2057.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080664233.2057.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <200403301325.33820.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 11:30, Will Backman wrote: > Anyone else seeing up2date problems? > Applet has launch up2date button, which asks for root password, then > does nothing. > up2date from command line kinda words, selexts a mirrir, but all > packages show 0kb size. Anyone else getting this. There appears to be a "common" problem with all programs which will prompt for root's password. I reported this against system-config-soundcard but this is likely to be really against pam or something -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119433 If you run these programs from a command line terminal, you get: Could not set exec context to user_u:sysadm_r:sysadm_t. This only occurs if you try to run the programs from a regular user. If you run them from root or a user defined with a admin role, then it works OK. -- Gene From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 18:25:33 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:25:33 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 rhn-applet-gui In-Reply-To: <1080665898.1913.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080665898.1913.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <20040330182533.GD15762@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 11:58:18AM -0500, Will Backman wrote: > Any reason rhn-applet-gui is taking up so much memory? > Sorting by memory usage in "top" places it between evolutiona and > nautilus. Is that by resident memory size or total size ? (I admit I always turn it off anyway becsuse when its doing the flashing thing its a) annoying b) uses about 5% CPU if you have several boxes running X sessions off one box you can suddenely find every update causes you to lose 40% of your cpu to rhn-applet!) If the resident size is low it may indicate that it mmaps files and uses bits of them From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 30 18:30:13 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:30:13 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 man problems In-Reply-To: <1080669767.2338.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080669767.2338.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <200403301330.13013.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 13:02, Will Backman wrote: > If I type man find or man ps, I type "q" to get out. > It spits out errors. > /usr/bin/nroff: line 69: 2472 Done /usr/bin/iconv -f > ${charset_in} -t utf-8 ${TMPFILE} > 2473 | /usr/bin/groff -mtty-char -Tutf8 > $opts 2>/dev/null > 2474 Broken pipe | /usr/bin/iconv -f utf-8 -t > ${charset_out}//translit > > > Anyone else get this? Yes, I see it also ... do a bugzilla report on this. -- Gene From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Tue Mar 30 18:29:56 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:29:56 -0500 Subject: libgimp dependency errors Message-ID: I just finished installing (actually upgrading FC2t1) test 2 and was running up2date to get the freshest packages when I get this wierd dependency error. It seems xsane and one other app(I forget which) requires the libgimp libraries. I can't find any libgimp packages, so they must be packaged under a different name. Can someone tell me what packages I need? -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 30 18:32:24 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:32:24 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 man problems In-Reply-To: <20040330112525.B20195@mail.harddata.com> References: <1080669767.2338.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040330112525.B20195@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <200403301332.24677.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 13:25, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=71130 This is a restricted access (Testers) only report. -- Gene From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 18:33:57 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:33:57 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Clock Applet Crash Message-ID: <1080671636.24461.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Right-click on clock applet in gnome, select preferences, crash. Anyone else get this? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Tue Mar 30 18:38:46 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:38:46 -0600 Subject: Initial test 2 stuff Message-ID: <1080671925.2425.23.camel@jupiter.stcl.edu> I installed FC2-2 from an NFS server without any problems. I am able to shell in via ssh. Evolution 1.4.6 is working perfectly for me via an IMAP server (running on FC1). System monitor is still reporting invalid device info for the disk partitions (total and used MB is a lot smaller than what I actually have). OpenOffice is sluggish, but I have only 192mb of memory on my test FC2-2 computer. Video and sound cards were properly recognized and configured by the installer. I have SELinux setup in warning mode, so I haven't had any problems. I still need to dig through my logs for any peculiarities. Summary: All the desktop apps for daily use are working now out of the gate. Way to go. Timothy From timothy at titan.stcl.edu Tue Mar 30 18:41:17 2004 From: timothy at titan.stcl.edu (Timothy) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:41:17 -0600 Subject: FC2T2 Clock Applet Crash In-Reply-To: <1080671636.24461.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080671636.24461.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1080672076.2425.25.camel@jupiter.stcl.edu> Same thing happens to me. Timothy On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 12:33, Will Backman wrote: > Right-click on clock applet in gnome, select preferences, crash. > > Anyone else get this? > > -- > Will Backman > Coastal Enterprises, Inc. > From michal at harddata.com Tue Mar 30 18:45:07 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:45:07 -0700 Subject: FC2T2 man problems In-Reply-To: <200403301332.24677.czar@czarc.net>; from czar@czarc.net on Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 01:32:24PM -0500 References: <1080669767.2338.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040330112525.B20195@mail.harddata.com> <200403301332.24677.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20040330114507.D20195@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 01:32:24PM -0500, Gene C. wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2004 13:25, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=71130 > > This is a restricted access (Testers) only report. Yes, you are right. It has checked "Red Hat Beta Program". I thought that these were supposed to be opened up. You are a tester after all. Oh, well! In any case it was originally filed by Enrico Scholz (enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de) on 2002-08-08 22:56 and its status is ASSIGNED It looks that somebody just unchecked "Red Hat Beta Program" on 71130. Michal From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Tue Mar 30 18:45:27 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:45:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: FC2T2 man problems In-Reply-To: <1080669767.2338.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080669767.2338.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Will Backman wrote: > If I type man find or man ps, I type "q" to get out. > It spits out errors. > /usr/bin/nroff: line 69: 2472 Done /usr/bin/iconv -f > ${charset_in} -t utf-8 ${TMPFILE} > 2473 | /usr/bin/groff -mtty-char -Tutf8 > $opts 2>/dev/null > 2474 Broken pipe | /usr/bin/iconv -f utf-8 -t > ${charset_out}//translit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117463 though it was supposed to be fixed. Michael Young From Baer at BaerSolutions.com Tue Mar 30 18:46:35 2004 From: Baer at BaerSolutions.com (R. Scott Baer) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:46:35 -0500 Subject: ssh problem .. No route to host In-Reply-To: <4069B806.1050702@swelltech.com> References: <1080665080.2057.11.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <4069A677.7080702@BaerSolutions.com> <4069B806.1050702@swelltech.com> Message-ID: <4069C08B.90901@BaerSolutions.com> Thanks Joe, I'll try this when I get home.. I'm hoping this is not the case, because I picked to install with no firewall. So it shouldn't enable anything for me. Thanks for the reply, Scott Joe Cooper wrote: > The default firewall on Fedora 1 does this, so I presume the same > silly settings exist on FC2 test. Stop iptables, and try again: > > service iptables stop > > R. Scott Baer wrote: > >> I'm trying to ssh to the newly installed FC2 test2... >> >> I'm not a t the box right now, so I cant double check the network >> settings, but every thing should have been fine. Its getting the >> DHCP info from a Linksys box, which also gives out address for 4 >> other box's I have.. When I installed last night, i did ssh out of >> that box, to both of my other linux boxes ( both running fc1 ). I >> have cleared the .ssh/known_hosts of entries that were created when >> fc2 test 1 was on this box. >> 2 fc1 boxes get the same message below >> selinux is enabled >> >> ============ >> [root at myhost root]# ssh 192.168.1.104 >> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.104 port 22: No route to host >> >> [root at myhost root]# ping -c 1 192.168.1.104 >> PING 192.168.1.104 (192.168.1.104) 56(84) bytes of data. >> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.292 ms >> >> --- 192.168.1.104 ping statistics --- >> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms >> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.292/0.292/0.292/0.000 ms, pipe 2 >> ============ >> >> If this looks like it is not something to do with fc2 test 2, >> I can try to figure it out on some other list.. >> >> Scott >> >> > > From steve at rueb.com Tue Mar 30 18:52:32 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:52:32 -0600 Subject: FC2T2 rhn-applet-gui In-Reply-To: <20040330182533.GD15762@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080665898.1913.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040330182533.GD15762@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4069C1F0.6070706@rueb.com> Alan Cox wrote: > > Is that by resident memory size or total size ? (I admit I always turn it > off anyway becsuse when its doing the flashing thing its > > a) annoying > b) uses about 5% CPU > c) Is totally irrelevant to all the employees running XDMCP sessions. Just how do you turn that thing off permanently? -Steve From yonasb at netzero.com Tue Mar 30 18:58:46 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonas abraham) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:58:46 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Clock Applet Crash In-Reply-To: <1080672076.2425.25.camel@jupiter.stcl.edu> References: <1080671636.24461.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <1080672076.2425.25.camel@jupiter.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <4069C366.9060302@netzero.com> it is happening here too Timothy wrote: >Same thing happens to me. > >Timothy > >On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 12:33, Will Backman wrote: > > >>Right-click on clock applet in gnome, select preferences, crash. >> >>Anyone else get this? >> >>-- >>Will Backman >>Coastal Enterprises, Inc. >> >> >> > > > > From zac9 at cdc.gov Tue Mar 30 19:02:23 2004 From: zac9 at cdc.gov (Sessoms, Mack) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:02:23 -0500 Subject: Initial test 2 stuff In-Reply-To: <1080671925.2425.23.camel@jupiter.stcl.edu> References: <1080671925.2425.23.camel@jupiter.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <4069C43F.7060203@cdc.gov> i also have the "partition size" problem in system monitor. Timothy wrote: >I installed FC2-2 from an NFS server without any problems. I am able to >shell in via ssh. Evolution 1.4.6 is working perfectly for me via an >IMAP server (running on FC1). System monitor is still reporting invalid >device info for the disk partitions (total and used MB is a lot smaller >than what I actually have). OpenOffice is sluggish, but I have only >192mb of memory on my test FC2-2 computer. Video and sound cards were >properly recognized and configured by the installer. I have SELinux >setup in warning mode, so I haven't had any problems. I still need to >dig through my logs for any peculiarities. > >Summary: All the desktop apps for daily use are working now out of the >gate. Way to go. > >Timothy > > > > From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 19:08:51 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:08:51 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 rhn-applet-gui In-Reply-To: <4069C1F0.6070706@rueb.com> References: <1080665898.1913.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040330182533.GD15762@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4069C1F0.6070706@rueb.com> Message-ID: <20040330190851.GA8718@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:52:32PM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > c) Is totally irrelevant to all the employees running XDMCP sessions. > > Just how do you turn that thing off permanently? chmod it 700 and the only root gets it 8) From keithl at kl-ic.com Tue Mar 30 19:15:51 2004 From: keithl at kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:15:51 -0800 Subject: Managing Fedora Testing In-Reply-To: <20040330152544.B7E867453F@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040330152544.B7E867453F@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040330191551.GA1330@gate.kl-ic.com> Some folks attempted to run Fedora Core 2 Test 2, and had an extremely difficult time, and expressed that here. They were roundly castigated by others for expressing that frustration. The purpose of the test process is to get a lot of different eyes on a lot of different things. The test releases are a good place to look for bugs before they are enshrined in the release. It is a very bad place to play control games and squelch dissent. Consider the "n" key instead. I am not a programmer. I do, however, suffer from bugs and mis-features that sail through the testing process into releases. I *do* understand testing stuff. Because I am skilled at testing, I would like to participate, and help isolate bugs, and describe them so that real programmers can fix them. I realize that pre-alpha releases are hard to get functioning. But I also understand good and bad test procedures. If you are going to test a product with 4000 modified components, you don't throw all your pre-alpha code together in one place, then ask people to test it, because they will only detect errors that crop up early. What that means is that you thrash out the problems in the first 100 components, perhaps, and the latter 3900 components are mostly untested. In electronics engineering, when we want to test a new component design, we plug it into a network of proven components. That way, we can quickly isolate the source of a problem. When we combine too many new components together in an attempt to save time on testing, the result is usually the opposite. Fault isolation becomes nearly impossible, and the engineer in charge of component B spends all her time arguing with the engineer for component A. The technical term for managers that set up such test programs is "f***ing idiots". Anyone who has worked in industry knows what I'm talking about. If I am a volunteer distro tester, and want to look at how a new Mozilla interacts with a new X windows, I do NOT need to be spending time finding out that Anaconda can't find my IDE hard drive, or that yum is configured to use the wrong mirrors. I have limited time, there are a limited number of testers, and there are a large number of packages and an enormous number of interactions to look at. If I quietly give up in frustration, or am driven away by the rantings of arrogant twits, then the kinds of things I can test go untested. Probably 50% of the people that attempt to participate in the Fedora test process lack the skills to test effectively. Of those, probably half can be patiently taught to do a good job, and the other half should be gently led towards contributing in other ways. Of the folks that *do* have the skills to test things, perhaps 10% have the necessary skills to test *anything*, or to test advanced components in spite of the basic components being broken. The other 90% of the 50% can perform adequate testing but only in favorable circumstances. At least, this is my experience from other projects. Breaking it down: 5% can test almost anything in difficult circumstances 45% can test some things under favorable circumstances 25% can learn to perform effective tests but don't know how yet 24% are unable to test but can do other important tasks 1% are brain dead and should go play Windows Solitare instead I would put myself in the 45% group, and include many of the folks that are complaining about booting or mirror problems. The Fedora test process seems to be geared exclusively for the 5%. As a result, Fedora will release with less than 10% of the potentially available testing effort, with the remaining effort disproportionally focused. Well, the proof will be in the results. Perhaps the high quality of the 5% will overcome all odds and turn out a quality product. Or perhaps Fedora Core 2 will be a buggy piece of crap. I wish you all luck, because in spite of the nattering twits, there are some truly wonderful people working on Fedora and at Redhat, doing great work, and I would be truly heartbroken to see all that talent wasted. Keith P.S. The prescriptions would come here, but this post is already too long. I can provide those in a later post, if there is interest. -- Keith Lofstrom keithl at ieee.org Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 30 19:17:14 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:17:14 -0500 Subject: FC2-T2 menus Message-ID: <200403301417.14583.czar@czarc.net> What is the deal with menus? Although I did not always agree with what was placed where, the general structuring of menus looked pretty good and I liked it. Now this all seems to be gone and menus have everything in a single top-level list? Is this how it is going to be (I hope not) or are we waiting for some fix to appear? -- Gene From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 19:18:18 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 30 Mar 2004 16:18:18 -0300 Subject: Howto get NFS exports working? In-Reply-To: <40387.193.111.40.193.1080632081.squirrel@www.wms-network.de> References: <200403291310.54842.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <40387.193.111.40.193.1080632081.squirrel@www.wms-network.de> Message-ID: On Mar 30, 2004, "Christian Schlaefcke" wrote: >> On Mar 29, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: >> >>> none on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw) >> >> /proc/fs/nfsd works for me >> ^ > OK, I have this too. Still not working. An "ls -la" in "/proc/fs/nfsd" > returns "". What should be there? $ ls -la /proc/fs/nfsd total 0 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 . dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 .. --w------- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 .add --w------- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 .del --w------- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 .export -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 exports -rw------- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 filehandle -rw------- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 .getfd -rw------- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 .getfs --w------- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 .svc -rw------- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 threads --w------- 1 root root 0 Mar 30 13:08 .unexport Do you actually have the NFS server started? Show us `mount | grep nfsd' just to be sure? (you know that embarrassing feeling when you've been looking at a typo for hours without noticing it, and it's enough for someone else to look at it for a split second and they notice it :-) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 19:24:36 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:24:36 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 xls files Message-ID: <1080674676.24730.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> clicking on a .doc launches OpenOffice, but .xls file are not set to launch anything. Should all MS office document types be set up already? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 19:26:38 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:26:38 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 xls files In-Reply-To: <1080674676.24730.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080674676.24730.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <20040330192638.GA17739@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 02:24:36PM -0500, Will Backman wrote: > clicking on a .doc launches OpenOffice, but .xls file are not set to > launch anything. Should all MS office document types be set up already? Probably yes - either gnumeric or openoffice, not sure which but stick it in bugzilla From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 19:27:17 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:27:17 -0500 Subject: Managing Fedora Testing In-Reply-To: <20040330191551.GA1330@gate.kl-ic.com> References: <20040330152544.B7E867453F@hormel.redhat.com> <20040330191551.GA1330@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: <1080674836.24730.7.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 14:15, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > I realize that pre-alpha releases are hard to get functioning. But > I also understand good and bad test procedures. If you are going to > test a product with 4000 modified components, you don't throw all your > pre-alpha code together in one place, then ask people to test it, > because they will only detect errors that crop up early. What that > means is that you thrash out the problems in the first 100 components, > perhaps, and the latter 3900 components are mostly untested. By design, a test release is a test of a whole bunch of things at once. Rawhide allows one to test individual package updates against a more static system. I will say that it seems odd to have some major changes between test 1 and test 2. -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From sopwith at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 19:29:03 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:29:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2T2 xls files In-Reply-To: <1080674676.24730.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080674676.24730.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Will Backman wrote: > clicking on a .doc launches OpenOffice, but .xls file are not set to > launch anything. Should all MS office document types be set up already? There's a package in the queue that fixes this - it will get into rawhide as soon as the development tree opens up for test3. Cheers, -- Elliot From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 19:31:19 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:31:19 -0500 Subject: Managing Fedora Testing In-Reply-To: <20040330191551.GA1330@gate.kl-ic.com> References: <20040330152544.B7E867453F@hormel.redhat.com> <20040330191551.GA1330@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: <20040330193119.GB17739@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 11:15:51AM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > If I am a volunteer distro tester, and want to look at how a new Mozilla > interacts with a new X windows, I do NOT need to be spending time > finding out that Anaconda can't find my IDE hard drive, or that yum is A large part of the early testing has always been installer stuff. I'm not yet sure what percentage of users are having CD booting problems, and more to the point there isnt a quick fix around. The cd isolinu boot code hasnt changed from FC1. Using an FC1 CD to get to the first prompt then swapping CD before hitting return seems to work. In previous cases its been fairly easy to use yum to test stuff bypassing install problems, the combination of the current ones and SELinux fixups makes it a bit trickier this time... Alan From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 19:34:16 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:34:16 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 xls files In-Reply-To: References: <1080674676.24730.4.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1080675255.24730.12.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 14:29, Elliot Lee wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Will Backman wrote: > > > clicking on a .doc launches OpenOffice, but .xls file are not set to > > launch anything. Should all MS office document types be set up already? > > There's a package in the queue that fixes this - it will get into rawhide > as soon as the development tree opens up for test3. > > Cheers, > -- Elliot > Glad to see that I have not found an undiscovered bug yet. Bug hunting is a fun sport. Now off to try gnopernicus...gotta be some uncharted waters somewhere.... ;) From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 19:39:31 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 30 Mar 2004 16:39:31 -0300 Subject: current status of the LVM issue? In-Reply-To: <1080636760.5263.5.camel@littlePiet> References: <1080636760.5263.5.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: On Mar 30, 2004, Peter Boy wrote: > But: can a create with Test 2 a root file system on free space in a LVM > created with Core 1 without compromising my system? And can I use the > home file system located on a LVM created with Core 1? Worked for me. But be sure to have backups handy, just in case. You know, this is a test release :-) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From markmc at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 19:38:07 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 20:38:07 +0100 Subject: FC2T2 Clock Applet Crash In-Reply-To: <1080671636.24461.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080671636.24461.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1080675486.13299.12.camel@laptop> Hi, On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 19:33, Will Backman wrote: > Right-click on clock applet in gnome, select preferences, crash. > > Anyone else get this? Yeah, its fixed in gnome-panel 2.5.93 and later. Raw Hide should have gnome-panel 2.6.0 within the next few days ... See: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136721 Cheers, Mark. From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 19:46:15 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:46:15 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 user mount /mnt/cdrom Message-ID: <1080675974.24730.16.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Is it just me? As a regular user, I cannot mount /mnt/cdrom. -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 19:51:58 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:51:58 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Login Security Issue with Last Login Message-ID: <1080676318.26482.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> I can get the last login info to come up with gdm before entering the password. Is this a security issue, as it verifies that the account exists, and even gives additional info such as from where and when the last login happened? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From jfm512 at free.fr Tue Mar 30 19:59:41 2004 From: jfm512 at free.fr (Jean Francois Martinez) Date: 30 Mar 2004 21:59:41 +0200 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread Message-ID: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> 1) This is a beta. Right. We expect things not working perfectly. But we expect to be able to install (even some glitches) and to boot. If we aren't able to do this, we will be frustrated and we will be unable to provide any help in hunting bugs. another point is that the people on this list care about Fedora's success and we don't want Fedora getting a bad name due to bad releases or betas who are in pre-pre-alpha stage (see below before you get defensive on this) 2) I think the reason myself and a lot of people haven't been able to boot could be linked to recording software. I had the same problem with Mandrake, I solved it, I don't remember how, I think it involved telling to xcdroast to record at a higher or lower capacity than 80 minutes. Since this is the xcdroast from Redhat 9 it is probable that the iso images have been built with mastering utilities who don't play well with recording at 80 minutes capacity: ie the CDs are readable (some people have succeded in making a mediacheck on CDs who didn't boot) but the boot record will not be detected by the BIOS 3) The boot.iso image is in a state who is completely unacceptable even for a beta. In normal times this would not be a major problem since most people would install from CD and would not see it. But since many people have been unable to boot from CD they have stumbled upon it. It does not make FC2T2 a joke (ie I withdraw my words about it) but as I said above boot.iso is in inacceptable state -- Jean Francois Martinez From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 20:00:57 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:00:57 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Gnopernicus Silent Message-ID: <1080676856.26482.9.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Magnifier works, but speech does not. If I attempt to test a voice, I get: (srcore:26523): gnopernicus-CRITICAL **: file libsrconf.c: line 247 (sr_config_changed_callback): assertion `entry->value' failed Filed as bug 119471 -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Tue Mar 30 20:02:21 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:02:21 +0300 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <200403301041.21810.czar@czarc.net> References: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <200403301041.21810.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <200403302302.21251.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Gene C. kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika tiistai, 30. maaliskuuta 2004 18:41): > > 3 - While trying to start from gnome using redhat/system > > settings/login screen, it asks for root password but never > > starts. > > I suspect this is the same thing I saw with > system-config-soundcard being invoked. See > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119433 The same thing happens with all applications that use consolehelper. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From zumbi3 at free.fr Tue Mar 30 20:03:46 2004 From: zumbi3 at free.fr (Michael Opdenacker) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:03:46 +0200 Subject: Laptop mode in FC2 Message-ID: <4069D2A2.9070409@free.fr> Hello, I've just played with the cpu speed scaling stuff... works very well! All you have to do is set the right module name in /etc/cpuspeed.conf ("DRIVER=p4-clockmod" in my case), and run "/etc/init.d/cpuspeed restart"! By the way, is "laptop mode" or anything equivalent still available in FC2? (See http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/index.html#kernel-notes for how it's advertised in FC1). /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode no longer exists in FC1. Looking forward to saving more power... ;-) Cheers, Michael. -- Michael Opdenacker http://opdenacker.org/ From jspaleta at princeton.edu Tue Mar 30 20:13:31 2004 From: jspaleta at princeton.edu (Jef Spaleta) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:13:31 -0500 Subject: Managing Fedora Testing Message-ID: <1080677611.17114.89.camel@spatula.pppl.gov> Keith Lofstrom wrote: > I would put myself in the 45% group, and include many of the folks > that are complaining about booting or mirror problems. The Fedora > test process seems to be geared exclusively for the 5%. As a > result, Fedora will release with less than 10% of the potentially > available testing effort, with the remaining effort > disproportionally focused. I would sort of agree with that. I would agree that the aggressive timescale for testing for fedora core means relying on those 5% (I'd put it closer to 1%) to be a strong component of the process. I would also say that the dropping of the private betas that rhl use to have makes the situation somewhat more dramatic looking than it is. As others have said, the fedora testing process, is a more open process than what happened with rhl. And more open translates directly into sharper edges for the informed to impale themselves on while blundering around in the dark. There is a trade-off here, taking the very long time to do things a piece at a time, means the pieces quickly become out of sync with upstream development. Open source projects, especially 'desktop' oriented projects are undergoing relative rapid pace of development churn. Doing it the way your example describes with electronics hardware breaks down, if the point is to really push things forward. I point you to the list of objectives for fedora. #3 and #5 demand an aggressive testing/release cycle. Doing it the very conservative way isn't in line with the objectives. And arguing that the objectives are bad...is just a waste. The objectives are what they are, the point is to find a process that fits best to meet the stated objectives, not argue for the best possible testing process that can take infinite time to produce the perfect release. So i really don't see mucb room in tweaking the stated timescales. That being said, i think there is a lot of room on how to organize the more open testing process. If small group, invitation only, betas are not something that can be reconsidered in an effort to reduce the signal-to-noise then something should be done to have testers self-identify themselves as to skill level and steps should be taken to layout to new testers what the expectations are if they are going to become involved. I would personally like to see at least a token effort made to make a list of things that testers are agreeing to do and to the expectations testers should have in their heads, before they venture into running a test release. Too many people show up on the irc channels, or in the mailinglist, with the wrong expectations. Sadly, I don't think better documenting a beta tester manifesto is going to be enough. I think there has to be a way to confirm that testers are prepared to actually help provide value instead of just noise. If i could do it, I'd demand that all testers pass a short quiz before they got the ability to file bug reports or become active in the mailinglists. A quiz based on yet to be written documentation that lays out what testers should expect from the releases and more importantly what developers expect testers to do. I wish i had time to work on documentation like that. As it stands, learning how to approach test releases is a trial by fire for most people...and fire burns. -jef"i should stop writing emails while having a high fever, I'm sure this one just sounds like gibberish"spaleta From peter at pandasys.co.uk Tue Mar 30 20:18:59 2004 From: peter at pandasys.co.uk (Peter Campion-Bye) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:18:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Kernel panic after upgrade from FC2t1 Message-ID: <44443.81.187.228.201.1080677939.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> Hi, I did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on my FC2t1 box that was working fine, now it won't boot. Blue screen at boot time says: kernel/timer.c:295: spin_lock(kernel/timer.c:0230e3a0) already locked by kernel/timer.c/392 Kernel panic: Fatal exception in interrupt In interrupt handler - not syncing Full screen dump can be seen here: http://www.pandasys.co.uk/panic.jpg Anyone got any ideas on where I should go from here? Thanks From list at inksystems.net Tue Mar 30 20:21:23 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor N. Kolomiyets) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:21:23 +0100 Subject: Kernel panic after upgrade from FC2t1 References: <44443.81.187.228.201.1080677939.squirrel@webmail.pandasys.net> Message-ID: <004c01c41694$920ad1d0$026fa8c0@BETA> Remove firewire drivers from the kernel modules, or copy them somewhere out of the modules tree. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Campion-Bye" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:18 PM Subject: Kernel panic after upgrade from FC2t1 > Hi, > I did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on my FC2t1 box that was working fine, now > it won't boot. Blue screen at boot time says: > > kernel/timer.c:295: spin_lock(kernel/timer.c:0230e3a0) already locked by > kernel/timer.c/392 > Kernel panic: Fatal exception in interrupt > In interrupt handler - not syncing > > Full screen dump can be seen here: http://www.pandasys.co.uk/panic.jpg > > Anyone got any ideas on where I should go from here? > Thanks > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From davej at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 20:27:07 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:27:07 +0100 Subject: Laptop mode in FC2 In-Reply-To: <4069D2A2.9070409@free.fr> References: <4069D2A2.9070409@free.fr> Message-ID: <1080678426.29848.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 21:03, Michael Opdenacker wrote: > By the way, is "laptop mode" or anything equivalent still available in > FC2? (See > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/index.html#kernel-notes for > how it's advertised in FC1). /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode no longer exists > in FC1. Probably not for FC2. This feature is available in the -mm tree right now, but I don't think it's going to mainline just yet as it isn't ready. For the same reason, it probably won't be making an early appearance in FC2. Dave From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 30 20:31:24 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:31:24 -0800 Subject: FC2T2 Login Security Issue with Last Login In-Reply-To: <1080676318.26482.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080676318.26482.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <20040330203124.GA30048@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 02:51:58PM -0500, Will Backman wrote: > > I can get the last login info to come up with gdm before entering the > password. > Is this a security issue, as it verifies that the account exists, and > even gives additional info such as from where and when the last login > happened? This was previously discussed and can be turned off. Check the archives for how. I like it... but I believe that it adds little or nothing to security. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 20:43:35 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:43:35 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 rpm -Va errors Message-ID: <1080679415.1940.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> [whb at cei3440 etc]$ rpm -V openoffice.org prelink: /tmp/#prelink#.mr7vEq: Recorded 41 dependencies, now seeing -1 S.?...... /usr/lib/ooo-1.1.0/program/pkgchk.bin prelink: /tmp/#prelink#.6KjY2D: Recorded 46 dependencies, now seeing -1 S.?...... /usr/lib/ooo-1.1.0/program/pluginapp.bin prelink: /tmp/#prelink#.UsrTzk: Recorded 11 dependencies, now seeing -1 S.?...... /usr/lib/ooo-1.1.0/program/regcomp [whb at cei3440 etc]$ rpm -V xorg-x11-libs error: setexeccon(user_u:user_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context "user_u:user_r:user_t": Invalid argument error: %verify(xorg-x11-libs-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 [whb at cei3440 etc]$ Also, a lot of programs didn't have MD5 sums to verify. From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Tue Mar 30 20:45:09 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:45:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2T2 GOK fatal error In-Reply-To: <1080666269.2338.0.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: I got the same thing. On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Will Backman wrote: > GOK gives me a: > GOK Fatal Error > Sorry, Gok can't run because: > Can't read any keyboards > > > Anyone else get this? > -- > Will Backman > Coastal Enterprises, Inc. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Tue Mar 30 20:50:54 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:50:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2T2 Evolution Problems In-Reply-To: <1080665080.2057.11.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: I hadn't tried this, but I was disappointed to see evolution reverted back to 1.4. Though I didn't like some of the changes in evo 2.0 (the button bar is ugly compared with the old icon side-bar, and I liked the summary page myself). On the other hand, some of the new features, like multiple calendars, were quite nice. I did notice that epiphany isn't in the default install. the first thing I always do is install epiphany. thanks, noah silva On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Will Backman wrote: > Clicking on a link in e-mail body does not launch browser, nor does > right-click "launch in browser". Looks like epiphany %s is the deafult, > although it seems to be not installed on a Personal Workstation install. > > Right clicking on IMAP folder in tree-view does not produce a pop-up > menu allowing me to add my IMAP INBOX to the shortcut bar. > > Anyone else getting these errors? > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 20:56:46 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:56:46 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Evolution Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080680206.1940.3.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:50, Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > I hadn't tried this, but I was disappointed to see evolution reverted back > to 1.4. Though I didn't like some of the changes in evo 2.0 (the button > bar is ugly compared with the old icon side-bar, and I liked the summary > page myself). On the other hand, some of the new features, like multiple > calendars, were quite nice. > Current Evolution still will not let you paste into the subject field of a new mail message. Bummer. From mark at harddata.com Tue Mar 30 20:57:27 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:57:27 -0700 Subject: libata vs via drivers (was: Re: A lot of problems with FC2 Test2 X64_64 - detailed description) In-Reply-To: <1080666848.7748.36.camel@japot> References: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> <200403300937.41267.mark@harddata.com> <1080666848.7748.36.camel@japot> Message-ID: <200403301357.27069.mark@harddata.com> On March 30, 2004 10:14 am, Alessandro Polverini wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 18:37, Mark wrote: > > [...] > > > > > That is strange. My SATA drive comes up as scsi on FC1 (2.4 kernel) > > > but ide on FC2 (2.6 kernel). > > > > There's two drivers. The straight via driver that is in 2.6.x or the > > libata driver that is in both. I am currently using the VIA driver with > > my custom 2.6.4 kernel but I may switch to libata. > > What are the pros and cons of one driver respect to the other? Well I am not sure. I know that the earlier version of the libata driver was giving me problems but this was before FC1 was released. I was able to install onto the SATA with the x86_64 version of FC1 using the libata drivers. With that said I have been using the regular VIA drivers all along with my regular install and they seem to work fine. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 21:07:53 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 30 Mar 2004 18:07:53 -0300 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: On Mar 30, 2004, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > But we expect to be able to install (even some glitches) and to boot. Based on what? Part of the testing is exactly on the installer. If you haven't been trying to install rawhide to report early problems that would make it to the test release otherwise, how would you expect people to know about them to fix them? > If we aren't able to do this, we will be frustrated and we will be > unable to provide any help in hunting bugs. Well, being unable to install a test release is not the end of the world. If you had the previous release installed, you can always keep on tracking rawhide until the next test release, that's coming soon, is out. Meanwhile, be sure to test a rawhide install every now and then and report problems. > want Fedora getting a bad name due to bad releases or betas who are > in pre-pre-alpha stage (see below before you get defensive on this) Betas? There aren't betas or alphas or pre-pre-alphas. Fedora Core has test releases. > 3) The boot.iso image is in a state who is completely unacceptable > even for a beta. In normal times this would not be a major problem > since most people would install from CD and would not see it. But > since many people have been unable to boot from CD they have stumbled > upon it. boot.iso is just a small extract of the boot CD. If the latter doesn't work, it's highly unlikely that the former will. On the good side, fixing the former will probably fix the latter as well. > It does not make FC2T2 a joke (ie I withdraw my words about > it) but as I said above boot.iso is in inacceptable state Thanks. Now let's work together to fix it. That's what test releases, broken or not, are all about. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From fedora-test-list at dynaloop.net Tue Mar 30 21:09:42 2004 From: fedora-test-list at dynaloop.net (Harald Glatt) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:09:42 +0200 Subject: Installer quits while checking for other fedora installations! Message-ID: <1080680981.3981.8.camel@localhost> From: Harald Glatt To: fedoratest Subject: Installer quits while checking for other fedora installations Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:06:02 +0200 Hi list, I just tried installing core 2 test 2 on my computer. Both the graphical and the text installer quit after trying to detect other fedora installations for about 1 minute... (I dont have any) My partition layout: /dev/hde1 NTFS (Windows XP) /dev/hde5 ReiserFS (empty, reserved for fedora) /dev/hde6 ReiserFS (Gentoo Linux) My Hardware: ASUS A7N8X Deluxe (AMD Processor mobo with NForce2 Chipset) 1.5 GB RAM AMD Athlon XP 2400+ 2 Seagate native SATA Harddrives Onboard SATA Controller (Does work with 2.6.3 (siimage) but doesn't with any later kernels... Due to a performance enhancing patch. Already informed the LKML) I think all other hardware is kinda irrelevant because stuff like sound and video shouldn't matter in a text install, but that one fails too... Do you need any more Information? Feel free to ask ;) Hope we can get this figured... cya Harald Glatt (hachre) From asenci at uol.com.br Tue Mar 30 21:13:10 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:13:10 -0300 Subject: esd /alsa problem In-Reply-To: <40692351.1080604@skmoore.com> References: <4067F246.8050005@skmoore.com> <1080578119.12322.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40692351.1080604@skmoore.com> Message-ID: <1080681190.3031.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Is sox/esd up to date? Try "yum update esd" or "yum update sox". Em Ter, 2004-03-30 ?s 17:35 +1000, Stephen Moore escreveu: > I checked and changed the permissions of the files, unfortunately to no > effect. Still doesnt't work :-( > [root at paris root]# ls -l /dev/dsp* > crw------- 1 stephen root 14, 3 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 25 20:14 /dev/dsp0 -> dsp > crw------- 1 stephen root 14, 19 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp1 > crw------- 1 stephen root 55, 0 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp56k > [root at paris root]# chmod a+rw /dev/dsp* > [root at paris root]# ls -l /dev/dsp* > crw-rw-rw- 1 stephen root 14, 3 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 25 20:14 /dev/dsp0 -> dsp > crw-rw-rw- 1 stephen root 14, 19 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp1 > crw-rw-rw- 1 stephen root 55, 0 Feb 24 07:02 /dev/dsp56k > > > Andr? S. wrote: > > > What ls -l /dev/dsp* shows? > > Try setting all to 777 or 666 (chmod a+rw /dev/dsp*) and start esd as > > a normal user. > > > > > > Em Seg, 2004-03-29 ?s 19:54 +1000, Stephen Moore escreveu: > > > >>I can only load esd as root. When I try to load esd as a user I get > >>"audio_alsa: no cards found!". > >> > >>When I run as root, esd starts fine. I presume that this some sort of > >>permissions problem. This is not a alsa mute problem (I think). > >> > >>Cheers > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>fedora-test-list mailing list > >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >>To unsubscribe: > >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > >> > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josh at hayden.ws Tue Mar 30 21:15:56 2004 From: josh at hayden.ws (Josh Hayden) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:15:56 -0600 Subject: FC2T2 user mount /mnt/cdrom In-Reply-To: <1080675974.24730.16.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080675974.24730.16.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1080681356.2038.14.camel@cuaderno.lan> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 13:46, Will Backman wrote: > Is it just me? As a regular user, I cannot mount /mnt/cdrom. > Take a look at /etc/fstab. My cdrom line looks like this: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 If you change "owner" to "user" it should be user mountable. That is an idea to possibly have user-mountable devices on a personal desktop install. It can be a security compromise to allow users to mount devices. Cheers. Josh From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Tue Mar 30 21:22:05 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:22:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Spatial Nautilus In-Reply-To: <1080542821.9751.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, [ISO-8859-1] Andr? S. wrote: > Last question: Why there isn't a option on the file-manager options to > choose the default behavior? This is part of the irksome "it's 'easier' if we sweep all options under the carpet and tell advanced users 'use gconf-editor' philosophy." Personally, I liked the "beginner"/"advanced" options in Gnome 1.4. > Steve, you forgot one on the plus side: much faster... ;D > I don't think this is due to it being spatial. thanks, noah silva From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Tue Mar 30 21:22:02 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:22:02 -0500 Subject: Where are the libgimp RPMS? Message-ID: I'm trying to update FC2T2 and i"m getting a dependency error with xsane, etc wanting libgimp-1.3, anyone have an idea where they are? I can't find them on the CDs or any of the mirrors. -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Tue Mar 30 21:25:40 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:25:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Spatial Nautilus In-Reply-To: <4067B590.70807@rueb.com> Message-ID: Hi, I agree that the spatial mode is way too spartan, but that wasn't the main idea. The idea was simply that each folder has certain properties, a background, a position, etc. This was already somewhat true in the browse mode, but is easier to see in "spatial mode". Mac OS 6-9 used this scheme, as did OS/2. I don't think this means that the toolbar has to be done away with though, it could simply have different items in it. In particular, I would like the zoom and "view as..." widgets there. I suppose people in hell want ice water too... On Sun, 28 Mar 2004, Steve Bergman wrote: > I've been using rawhide since a little before FC2-test1. And I must say > that I am more than a bit taken aback by the new nautilus default mode. > > I'm a KDE fan from before their 1.0 release, and it took a long while > for Gnome to win me over. But it did eventually, and what won me over > was its adherence to the HIG, and the beautiful simplicity of Bluecurve > Gnome. i.e. I'm not one of those people who bemoaned the replacement of > sawfish with metacity, and I like the "less is more" philosophy of the > current Gnome series. Gnome has done a lot of things right. > > So I can't help but feel that I am missing the boat when it comes to > spatial mode nautilus. On the plus side, I can see that it certainly > has a cleaner look. And that's it. > > On the minus side, it wants to open a window for every mouse click, > navigation is cumbersome, finding what options you do have is a hunt and > peck afair. I realize that if you know to "right click-> browse folder" > or "nautilus -browser", you can get the old behavior back, but what I > don't understand is why spatial is the default. How does spatial mode > as the default benefit the new user? To me, this seems to be a case of > cutting out too much of the interface. > > I realize that this may really be a question for another list, but as > the Fedora project could decide to change the default, it seems an > appropriate thing to ask in this forum. I almost feel that I should be > posting this to bugzilla instead of here. > > What are the advantages of spatial that I am not seeing? > > Thanks, > Steve Bergman > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From k at dicec.cl Tue Mar 30 21:38:08 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:38:08 -0400 Subject: FC2T2 rhn-applet-gui In-Reply-To: <20040330190851.GA8718@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1080665898.1913.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040330182533.GD15762@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4069C1F0.6070706@rueb.com> <20040330190851.GA8718@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1080682688.10720.2.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:08, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:52:32PM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > > c) Is totally irrelevant to all the employees running XDMCP sessions. > > > > Just how do you turn that thing off permanently? > > chmod it 700 and the only root gets it 8) actually not the most elegant way of doing it... but i must say.. a clever one... perhaps uninstall the up2date rpm?... i don't even want to up2date anymore.. apt or yum (the one that actually works) works much better.. -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From bcs at metacon.ca Tue Mar 30 21:39:56 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:39:56 -0400 Subject: FC2T2 Evolution Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080682796.15066.1.camel@ripley> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 16:50, Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > I hadn't tried this, but I was disappointed to see evolution reverted back > to 1.4. Though I didn't like some of the changes in evo 2.0 (the button > bar is ugly compared with the old icon side-bar, and I liked the summary > page myself). On the other hand, some of the new features, like multiple > calendars, were quite nice. I believe the reasoning was that Evo 2 won't be ready in time for FC2. The development tree is far to flakey to include in a full release, IMHO. As for multiple calendars, you can do that in Evo 1.4, unless I misunderstand what you mean by multiple calendars. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From cmadams at hiwaay.net Tue Mar 30 21:43:13 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:43:13 -0600 Subject: FC2T2 DVD - boots, but no media check Message-ID: <20040330214313.GA1476421@hiwaay.net> I successfully booted both the FC2T2 DVD and CD images on my notebook (Fujitsu Lifebook C2010). The CD comes up and prompts to check the media, but the DVD image does not. Shouldn't it? Bugzilla #119490 -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Mar 30 21:44:41 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:44:41 -0500 Subject: wine problem Message-ID: <200403301644.46029.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What do I need to do to workaround this? Starting '/opt/cxoffice/bin/wineloader' '--' 'Y:\gs814w32.exe' err:virtual:map_image Standard load address for a Win32 program (0x00400000) not available - security-patched kernel ? /opt/cxoffice/bin/wineloader: could not load 'Y:\gs814w32.exe' as Win32 binary -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAaepMMDqogpR5tkMRAtpvAJ49IedbkNGaxq+UJPEak/HZ4q1CNACfciKe zyF5mU4y6K7IX2R4Ld+lCAQ= =JAmj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 21:46:10 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:46:10 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Preferences->Control Center Message-ID: <1080683170.10505.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Gnome, Red Fedora menu, Preferences, Control Center. Nautilus window comes up and says cannot go to preferences:/// Second time I try it, it brings up nautilus window and spins. Anyone else get this? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From bcs at metacon.ca Tue Mar 30 21:46:27 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:46:27 -0400 Subject: Spatial Nautilus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080683187.15066.7.camel@ripley> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 17:25, Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > Hi, > > I agree that the spatial mode is way too spartan, but that wasn't the main > idea. The idea was simply that each folder has certain properties, a > background, a position, etc. This was already somewhat true in the browse > mode, but is easier to see in "spatial mode". Mac OS 6-9 used this > scheme, as did OS/2. So did the Amiga, which is personally why I was glad to see a spatial filesystem browser in Linux. It seems odd that so many filesystem managers try to work like Windows Explorer. I never got used to that form; I always preferred spatial and I still do, even though Nautilus' still has a few warts (ex: click on a Windows Network host, then click on any of the shared resources, and you'll get an "The action associated with "share" is invalid" message. If you associate nautilus with it, you'll get an error message "'Nautilus' can`t open 'jazmin' because 'nautilus' can`t access files at 'smb' .locations". Whoops :-) > I don't think this means that the toolbar has to be > done away with though, it could simply have different items in it. In > particular, I would like the zoom and "view as..." widgets there. I > suppose people in hell want ice water too... By implication, people using Nautilus are in hell :-) Just kidding. I like spatial mode. And there's nothing stopping anyone from never seeing spatial mode if they don't want to! -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue Mar 30 21:48:36 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:48:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2T2 rhn-applet-gui In-Reply-To: <1080682688.10720.2.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> References: <1080665898.1913.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040330182533.GD15762@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4069C1F0.6070706@rueb.com> <20040330190851.GA8718@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080682688.10720.2.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> Message-ID: <1422.12.29.16.103.1080683316.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Christian B. Ellsworth Capo said: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:08, Alan Cox wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:52:32PM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: >> > c) Is totally irrelevant to all the employees running XDMCP sessions. >> > >> > Just how do you turn that thing off permanently? >> >> chmod it 700 and the only root gets it 8) > actually not the most elegant way of doing it... but i must say.. a > clever one... Works good if you still want to be able to use it as root. > perhaps uninstall the up2date rpm?... i don't even want to up2date > anymore.. apt or yum (the one that actually works) works much better.. You do realize that rhn-applet isn't part of the up2date rpm, right? -- William Hooper From dwalsh at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 21:48:44 2004 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:48:44 -0500 Subject: SELinux issues (I think) with FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <200403302302.21251.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> References: <1080655104.2510.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <200403301041.21810.czar@czarc.net> <200403302302.21251.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <4069EB3C.90002@redhat.com> Markku Kolkka wrote: >Gene C. kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika tiistai, 30. >maaliskuuta 2004 18:41): > > >>>3 - While trying to start from gnome using redhat/system >>>settings/login screen, it asks for root password but never >>>starts. >>> >>> >>I suspect this is the same thing I saw with >>system-config-soundcard being invoked. See >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119433 >> >> > >The same thing happens with all applications that use >consolehelper. > > > Basically there is a bug in policy, If you change your user to staff_r instead of user_r this will fix it. (You need to relabel homedir after you do this.) Alternately you could modify the user_u line in users to have the following user user_u roles { user_r sysadm_r system_r }; Dan From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Tue Mar 30 21:48:58 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:48:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Nautilus problems In-Reply-To: <1080683187.15066.7.camel@ripley> Message-ID: I had a similar problem using "connect to server" and then putting in a "sftp://" URL. When I try to open it... error ;< On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 17:25, Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I agree that the spatial mode is way too spartan, but that wasn't the main > > idea. The idea was simply that each folder has certain properties, a > > background, a position, etc. This was already somewhat true in the browse > > mode, but is easier to see in "spatial mode". Mac OS 6-9 used this > > scheme, as did OS/2. > > So did the Amiga, which is personally why I was glad to see a spatial > filesystem browser in Linux. It seems odd that so many filesystem > managers try to work like Windows Explorer. I never got used to that > form; I always preferred spatial and I still do, even though Nautilus' > still has a few warts (ex: click on a Windows Network host, then click > on any of the shared resources, and you'll get an "The action associated > with "share" is invalid" message. If you associate nautilus with it, > you'll get an error message "'Nautilus' can`t open 'jazmin' because > 'nautilus' can`t access files at 'smb' .locations". Whoops :-) > > > I don't think this means that the toolbar has to be > > done away with though, it could simply have different items in it. In > > particular, I would like the zoom and "view as..." widgets there. I > > suppose people in hell want ice water too... > > By implication, people using Nautilus are in hell :-) Just kidding. I > like spatial mode. And there's nothing stopping anyone from never > seeing spatial mode if they don't want to! > > > -- > Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 > http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Mar 30 21:50:47 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:50:47 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Screen Resolution Preferences Message-ID: <1080683446.10505.5.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> If I pick a screen resolution under Gnome Preferences, I will then ask me if I want to keep the resolution or revert. Selecting "Use previous resolution" does not revert me back to the original. Anyone else see this? Am I creating too much noise? Just say so, and I'll sit on my hands for a while. I just fear that too many people assume that the developers see these errors and don't bother to ask. -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From alan at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 21:53:46 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:53:46 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Screen Resolution Preferences In-Reply-To: <1080683446.10505.5.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1080683446.10505.5.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <20040330215346.GB23858@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:50:47PM -0500, Will Backman wrote: > If I pick a screen resolution under Gnome Preferences, I will then ask > me if I want to keep the resolution or revert. Selecting "Use previous > resolution" does not revert me back to the original. Please bugzilla this From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Tue Mar 30 21:56:38 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:56:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC2T2 Screen Resolution Preferences In-Reply-To: <1080683446.10505.5.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Will Backman wrote: > If I pick a screen resolution under Gnome Preferences, I will then ask > me if I want to keep the resolution or revert. Selecting "Use previous > resolution" does not revert me back to the original. > > Anyone else see this? > > Am I creating too much noise? Just say so, and I'll sit on my hands for > a while. I just fear that too many people assume that the developers > see these errors and don't bother to ask. > I don't work for redhat, but it is a test release, you are supposed to report issues you see. I think the only time you might get yelled at is if all of the issues you ask about are in bugzilla, or (worse) on this list already. thanks, noah silva > -- > Will Backman > Coastal Enterprises, Inc. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From k at dicec.cl Tue Mar 30 21:56:57 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:56:57 -0400 Subject: FC2T2 rhn-applet-gui In-Reply-To: <1422.12.29.16.103.1080683316.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <1080665898.1913.1.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <20040330182533.GD15762@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4069C1F0.6070706@rueb.com> <20040330190851.GA8718@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1080682688.10720.2.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> <1422.12.29.16.103.1080683316.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <1080683817.10720.11.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 17:48, William Hooper wrote: > Christian B. Ellsworth Capo said: > > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:08, Alan Cox wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:52:32PM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > >> > c) Is totally irrelevant to all the employees running XDMCP sessions. > >> > > >> > Just how do you turn that thing off permanently? > >> > >> chmod it 700 and the only root gets it 8) > > actually not the most elegant way of doing it... but i must say.. a > > clever one... > > Works good if you still want to be able to use it as root. > > > perhaps uninstall the up2date rpm?... i don't even want to up2date > > anymore.. apt or yum (the one that actually works) works much better.. > > You do realize that rhn-applet isn't part of the up2date rpm, right? actually after checking a little deeper is not, but i still don't use either... rhn-applet is a stand alone package... my fault (not to recall/remember that). actually you are right... > > > -- > William Hooper -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Tue Mar 30 21:59:16 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:59:16 +0300 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <200403310059.16223.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Alexandre Oliva kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika keskiviikko, 31. maaliskuuta 2004 00:07): > boot.iso is just a small extract of the boot CD. If the > latter doesn't work, it's highly unlikely that the former > will. Really? I couldn't boot from FC2test2 CD1, but I could boot with boot.iso from that same CD and install over network. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From bhills at openshores.com Tue Mar 30 22:00:11 2004 From: bhills at openshores.com (Brent Hills) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:00:11 -0800 Subject: su permission failure Message-ID: <1080684011.2515.8.camel@unixtop.openshores.local> Hello, After a fresh installation of Fedora Core II on initial boot I get Permission denied changing to the /root directory running su -l but I can change to the directory afterwards: [bhills at unixtop workarea]$ su -l Password: su: warning: cannot change directory to /root: Permission denied [root at unixtop workarea]# cd /root [root at unixtop root]# I assume this is SELinux related but I'm unsure if its a 'problem'? Brent Hills. From twaugh at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 22:04:13 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:04:13 +0100 Subject: su permission failure In-Reply-To: <1080684011.2515.8.camel@unixtop.openshores.local> References: <1080684011.2515.8.camel@unixtop.openshores.local> Message-ID: <20040330220412.GP22468@redhat.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 02:00:11PM -0800, Brent Hills wrote: > I assume this is SELinux related but I'm unsure if its a 'problem'? Yes, it's a problem. It's in bugzilla (now). Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For the speed, it started relatively slow and went accelerating. But now the FIFO and buffer are constantly shifting between 100% and 0%, the machine becomes also completely unresponsive: echo to keypresses suffers from a notable delay. The distribution were the recording was done is Redhat 9, xcdroast is 0.98a13-4 built in Jan2003 so it hasn't changed, cdrecord is 2.0 release 11.9.1 and it hasn't moved either. kernel is 2.4.20-30.9 and this one has changed in Feb2004. The box has an NVIDIA chipset and is using the nforce driver from NVIDIA along with the nvidia kernel module needed by the nvidia X driver. Are the other people who have had boot problems in the same situation (ie using kernel 2.4.20-30.9 and/or using NVIDIA drivers? -- Jean Francois Martinez From josh at hayden.ws Tue Mar 30 22:08:15 2004 From: josh at hayden.ws (Josh Hayden) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:08:15 -0600 Subject: "About Myself" giving "Unknown user." error Message-ID: <1080684494.2038.20.camel@cuaderno.lan> Main Menu > Preferences > About Myself gives "Unknown user." error when clicking the "Apply" button. Bugzilla #119493 Josh From keithl at kl-ic.com Tue Mar 30 22:32:28 2004 From: keithl at kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:32:28 -0800 Subject: Managing Fedora Testing In-Reply-To: <20040330204343.3370C739AA@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040330204343.3370C739AA@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040330223228.GA1947@gate.kl-ic.com> > Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > I would put myself in the 45% group, and include many of the folks > > that are complaining about booting or mirror problems. The Fedora > > test process seems to be geared exclusively for the 5%. As a > > result, Fedora will release with less than 10% of the potentially > > available testing effort, with the remaining effort > > disproportionally focused. Jef Spaleta writes: > I would sort of agree with that. I would agree that the aggressive > timescale for testing for fedora core means relying on those 5% (I'd put > it closer to 1%) to be a strong component of the process. I would also > say that the dropping of the private betas that rhl use to have makes > the situation somewhat more dramatic looking than it is. As others have > said, the fedora testing process, is a more open process than what > happened with rhl. And more open translates directly into sharper edges > for the informed to impale themselves on while blundering around in the > dark. > > There is a trade-off here, taking the very long time to do things a > piece at a time, means the pieces quickly become out of sync with > upstream development. ... To reiterate, my concern is that the testing process gets hung up on the front end, and the distro as a whole is incompletely checked. I got some feedback, so I will go on to prescription. A "conservative", one-piece-at-a-time development process is of course much too slow. Instead, I would divide up the work into domains so that people can choose a domain and test in that. Where to draw the line is difficult, but I would probably make the domains "kernel and drivers", "installation and update", "X and desktops", and "applications". Obviously, many problems will cross domains, but to the extent that you can partition things you reduce the scope of most problems. 20 years ago, I designed whole chips. Now I design small pieces of chips with 10 times as many transistors per piece. Some times my pieces interact nastily with other pieces, and that can cost a $1M mask set and 3 months. But 99% of the problems stay confined in my box, or in the mid-sized box my piece is in. This is how the processors just keep getting cheaper and faster and better and sooner, because we can partition the hell out of the problem, and this allows chip designers to generate terabyte-sized designs really, really fast. Code right now is partitioned into modules and programs and libraries and packages, then distros. For those of us interested in testing the interaction of packages, a single package is too small and a whole distro is too big. Hence domains. If we have domains A, B, and C, then testers can work with Anew + Bnew + Cnew if they are in the 5% elite, but the 70% less-skilled testers can work with Aold + Bold + Cnew if they just want to look at interactions in that domain. For my four suggested domains, that suggests 5 test distros rather than one. It would be wonderful to do all combinations, or even any combination with any incremental change in any package, but dependencies make that impractical. In any case, all 5 test distros at alpha are designed to merge into one distro at beta, probably at test 3. Schedule would be: Test 1: Domains defined, new packages in each domain defined. Find package problems. Test 2: Packages upgraded/downgraded/replaced to fix package problems. Find between-package problems within domains. Test 3: Integrate changed domains into one beta distro. Find between-domain problems. Release0: This is it! The complete, perfect distro. Release1: Just kidding! We fixed those killer bugs. Release2: We really mean it this time. Release ... This will be more work to set up; I would guess 20% more, initially. But it captures 10x more labor, making more available for desktop/application testing, which in turn reduces the distractions for the install/kernel testers. The real question is, do you want to accomplish 20% testing or 80% testing? I have real concerns that Fedora Core 2 release, as a coherent distro, will be 20% tested, because intense application/interaction beta testing will never happen. If I wanted untested beta code, I would run windows. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl at ieee.org Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs From czar at czarc.net Tue Mar 30 22:38:02 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:38:02 -0500 Subject: kde and xfce Message-ID: <200403301738.02110.czar@czarc.net> This is mainly about FC2-T2 x86_64, kde, and xfce. Running kde on FC2-T2 x86 is more or less OK although a bit strange (what in the world are the little "htt im" window boxes that follow the active window). OK, this was a fresh install of FC2-T2 on an ASUS SK8V with an Opteron 140. I have been mostly using gnome/metacity but decided to give kde a try. Oops, it starts but then doesn't do much (cannot start terminal or do much of anything but logout). A couple of gray (blank) windows come up also. I also gave xfce a try and it is pretty much the same ... cannot do anything but logout. This is NOT selinux related ... I booted up enforcing=0 (permissive) and it worked the same way. Before I spend a lot of time gathering info to report this, is this a known problem? I assume that there are some people who prefer to run kde out there and have not seen any messages about this situation so I wonder if it is me or my hardware that is the problem. -- Gene From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue Mar 30 22:44:43 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:44:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Managing Fedora Testing In-Reply-To: <20040330223228.GA1947@gate.kl-ic.com> References: <20040330204343.3370C739AA@hormel.redhat.com> <20040330223228.GA1947@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: <64496.65.40.71.80.1080686683.squirrel@65.40.71.80> Keith Lofstrom said: > I got some feedback, so I will go on to prescription. A "conservative", > one-piece-at-a-time development process is of course much too slow. > Instead, I would divide up the work into domains so that people can > choose a domain and test in that. Where to draw the line is difficult, > but I would probably make the domains "kernel and drivers", "installation > and update", "X and desktops", and "applications". Obviously, many > problems will cross domains, but to the extent that you can partition > things you reduce the scope of most problems. What is preventing you from updating the "domain" you choose from Rawhide and testing? -- William Hooper From asenci at uol.com.br Tue Mar 30 22:56:03 2004 From: asenci at uol.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= S.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:56:03 -0300 Subject: Spatial Nautilus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080687362.8526.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Em Ter, 2004-03-30 ?s 16:22 -0500, Noah Silva [Mailing list] escreveu: > I don't think this is due to it being spatial. > > thanks, > noah silva I've tried the spatial and the "classic" modes, spatial appears to be a lot faster . 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Em Ter, 2004-03-30 ?s 14:00 -0800, Brent Hills escreveu: > Hello, > > After a fresh installation of Fedora Core II on initial boot I get > Permission denied changing to the /root directory running su -l but I > can change to the directory afterwards: > > [bhills at unixtop workarea]$ su -l > Password: > su: warning: cannot change directory to /root: Permission denied > [root at unixtop workarea]# cd /root > [root at unixtop root]# > > I assume this is SELinux related but I'm unsure if its a 'problem'? > > Brent Hills. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jfm512 at free.fr Tue Mar 30 22:57:30 2004 From: jfm512 at free.fr (Jean Francois Martinez) Date: 31 Mar 2004 00:57:30 +0200 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <1080687449.1221.134.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 23:07, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Mar 30, 2004, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > But we expect to be able to install (even some glitches) and to boot. > > Based on what? Part of the testing is exactly on the installer. If > you haven't been trying to install rawhide to report early problems > that would make it to the test release otherwise, how would you expect > people to know about them to fix them? I can understand the installation breaking on a piece of software the RedHat/Fedora people don't have or if I made something unusual. I cannot understand the installation breaking at the first step on IDE disks or CDROMS (and booting from boot.iso): a test release is made for people exploring the million alleys that Redhat/Fedora people cannot explore, it is useless to have people stumble upon a major problem you couldn't fail because it was just 1 yard after exiting Redhat's garage. > > > If we aren't able to do this, we will be frustrated and we will be > > unable to provide any help in hunting bugs. > > Well, being unable to install a test release is not the end of the > world. If you had the previous release installed, you can always keep > on tracking rawhide until the next test release, that's coming soon, > is out. Meanwhile, be sure to test a rawhide install every now and > then and report problems. > > > want Fedora getting a bad name due to bad releases or betas who are > > in pre-pre-alpha stage (see below before you get defensive on this) > > Betas? There aren't betas or alphas or pre-pre-alphas. Fedora Core > has test releases. > See above for what is a test release. > > 3) The boot.iso image is in a state who is completely unacceptable > > even for a beta. In normal times this would not be a major problem > > since most people would install from CD and would not see it. But > > since many people have been unable to boot from CD they have stumbled > > upon it. > > boot.iso is just a small extract of the boot CD. If the latter > doesn't work, it's highly unlikely that the former will. On the good > side, fixing the former will probably fix the latter as well. > I think I found why many of us were unable to boot (see my message about recording software) and it is completely unrelated to the particular file on CD1 who happens to contain an iso image who is completely non-functional for the 99% of people who have IDE disks. And even if my explanation about the booting problem were wrong we still could have a perfect FC2 CD installtion with a completely broken boot.iso file or the opposite. Both problems are unrelated. > > It does not make FC2T2 a joke (ie I withdraw my words about > > it) but as I said above boot.iso is in inacceptable state > > Thanks. Now let's work together to fix it. That's what test > releases, broken or not, are all about. > > -- > Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ > Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} > Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} -- Jean Francois Martinez From notting at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 23:06:43 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:06:43 -0500 Subject: libgimp dependency errors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040330230643.GB2215@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Mark Haney (mark.haney at doctordirectory.com) said: > I just finished installing (actually upgrading FC2t1) test 2 and was > running up2date to get the freshest packages when I get this wierd > dependency error. It seems xsane and one other app(I forget which) > requires the libgimp libraries. I can't find any libgimp packages, so > they must be packaged under a different name. Can someone tell me what > packages I need? xsane and gimp-print- need rebuilt against the new gimp. Bill From jspaleta at princeton.edu Tue Mar 30 23:09:37 2004 From: jspaleta at princeton.edu (Jef Spaleta) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:09:37 -0500 Subject: Managing Fedora Testing Message-ID: <1080688176.17114.102.camel@spatula.pppl.gov> Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Schedule would be: How do you make this schedule work without greatly increasing the length of time needed for the testing phase? How does this schedule really take into account the fact the the point is to track upstream development as much as possible? If fc2 followed this schedule..would we have a 2.6 kernel with selinux or gnome 2.6 in the final fc2 release? A lot of the pieces are moving targets, does your schedule and the break down really account for that? Does your schedule really make room for something as disruptive as the introduction of selinux? How the hell do you split selinux's affect into a 'domain'? shoehorning selinux support in is sort of a top to bottom, front to back, side to side, in to out problem. -jef From notting at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 23:20:49 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:20:49 -0500 Subject: A lot of problems with FC2 Test2 X64_64 - detailed description In-Reply-To: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> References: <1080656121.7748.30.camel@japot> Message-ID: <20040330232049.GC2215@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Alessandro Polverini (alex at nibbles.it) said: > *** After the boot *** > - In the file modprobe.conf there was a bad line: > alias dmfe > without the ethernet device. This is strange since upper in the file > there was the correct line: > alias eth2 dmfe Please file a bug, against anaconda. > - Kudzu starts and the kernel crashes completely telling (sorry. not > cut&paste): > Kernel bug at generic:664 > Invalid operand: 0000[1] > ... Firewire bug in the kernel, probably. Either alias the firewire modules off, or remove them. > - I loaded modules by hand, and then played a .ogg file with ogg123, I > got this error: "Floating Point Exception" Please bugzilla. Bill From notting at redhat.com Tue Mar 30 23:21:29 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:21:29 -0500 Subject: SEL message In-Reply-To: <20040330175321.GA28290@mebtel.net> References: <20040330175321.GA28290@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <20040330232129.GD2215@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Derek Tattersall (dlt at mebtel.net) said: > Using YUM update on FC2 test2 I get the following message: > warning: setexeccon(root:staff_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context > "root:staff_r:staff_t": Invalid argument > > It doesn't seem to cause a problem, (the security context is warning), > but I am trying to come up to speed on SELinux and I've got a fair ways > to go. Should I be worried about this message? What insufficiency on > my part is causing it? yum/rpm/up2date need to run as sysadm_r, not staff_r. This can be changed in policy, IIRC. Bill From fedora-list at planetmirror.com Tue Mar 30 23:42:30 2004 From: fedora-list at planetmirror.com (Dan Goodes) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:42:30 +1000 (EST) Subject: FC2T2 Initial Things Message-ID: Hi folks, I installed FC2t2 yesterday on my notebook (Compaq Presario 2133AC with AMD AthlonXP-M 2400+, 512MB, ATI Radeon Mobilty U1*, NatSemi Ethernet card and Orinoco_Pci WiFi) * Before you jump to conclusions, I know that this card is supposedly only supported in DRI-CVS etc as far as 3D is concerned, and I don't mind one bit (That will get fixed and working "enevtually"). I installed by downloading the boot.iso image and running "linux nousb nofirewire nopcmcia askmethod" from the boot: prompt. I need all those to get my keyboard to work in Anaconda (this is in bugzilla a number of times, and that is the solution...). Inistalled via my mirror (planetmirror.com) and went into things. For some reason (that eludes me now) I wanted to check what glxinfo said as far as my MESA/DRI setup went. *BANG* the X session went black and locked up cold (i didn't have an SSH connection into the box to find out what if anything was written on dmesg or the X log - I will post more updates today when I get the chance). The same thing happened when I tried to run a GL-based screensaver - it *should* have simply run with software rendering as all previous releases did, but instead just went to a blank screen and X locked up. This stuff is very reminiscent of when using testing/CVS IGP DRI, which I could never get working, despite all the claims that it did work. Is it possible that a) x11-org sees a radeon chipset and assumes that it can do 3d, even though it can't in practice, being an IGP? b) x11-org included some [broken] support for the IGP that nobody knows about? Anyway, I'll do more testing/work with FC2T2 today, and post more results. Cheers, Dan From walkera at ofb.net Wed Mar 31 00:08:43 2004 From: walkera at ofb.net (Walker Aumann) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:08:43 -0800 Subject: surprising success report Message-ID: <1080691723.25007.39.camel@tweety.fiduciaryasset.com> My backup server has been a pain for years because it has an Adaptec AHA-2940U2W SCSI card along with an Adaptec AHA-2944UW SCSI card. Ever since the "new" aic7xxx module, that has meant booting in expert mode and manually selecting the appropriate driver (aic7xxx_old). On a lark, I tried booting this machine from the "notorious" FC2-test2 disc 1. Not only did it boot properly, but it figured out the SCSI cards well enough to get me to the disk partitioning menu (where I stopped because I'm not ready to install a test release on our backup server). With more results like this and being able to successfully configure SMTP authentication with postfix under FC2-test1 where I couldn't with RedHat 9, I'm really looking forward to this being ready for general use. From wolters.liste at gmx.net Wed Mar 31 00:13:03 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 02:13:03 +0200 Subject: Updatet from Development tree - German "umlaute" are now missing in programs Message-ID: <200403310213.03224.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Hi, after an update from the development tree (something around 80 packages) several minutes ago, the german "umlaute" are broken inside KDE. That applys to all saved data, like E-Mails, program-interfaces, menu-buttons, but not to the manpages! The Code in my /etc/sysconfig/i18n is set to LANG="de_DE.UTF-8", everything worked fine before the update of the system from FC2T2 to Development. At this moment I see that I am not possible to insert the "umlaute" into the mail written inside contact - but in shell it works, in Konqueror and kwrite too. c&p from konqueror to kontact does not work... The knewsticker shows the lines in the right way, if I open the right-klick menu to see all the links, the links have the wrong codes (see below). The short help for the kicker icons (if you move your mouse over them, you get a smal yellow box with a little more information) shows the correct codes, there I can read the "umlaute". Maybe a KDE-special Problem? Here is the replacement table: ae is ? AE is ? oe is ? OE is ? ue is ? UE is ? ss is ? euro-symbol is ? Maybe that helpes? Do other people have these problems? Seems like KDE was copiled with ISO-8859-1, an not with UTF-8.... Roland From b-nordquist at bethel.edu Wed Mar 31 00:31:27 2004 From: b-nordquist at bethel.edu (Brent J. Nordquist) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:31:27 -0600 (CST) Subject: any chance for a quick respin of FC2t2? In-Reply-To: <20040330114512.GB20814@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Alan Cox wrote: > A good workaround for this case seems to be to boot off the T1 CD to the > initial boot prompt then switch CD Fair enough... but what about x86_64 -- does it have the CD boot problem, in which case what to do (there was no T1 CD for x86_64)? Will it work to boot from an i386 T1 CD and then switch to the x86_64 T2 CD? -- Brent J. Nordquist N0BJN Other contact information: http://kepler.acns.bethel.edu/~bjn/contact.html "No amount of hand waving can rescue SCO's complaint from its infirmities." -- Novell Reply Memo. in Support of Motion to Dismiss, March 19, 2004 From ed at fletcher.ca Wed Mar 31 01:29:42 2004 From: ed at fletcher.ca (Ed Fletcher) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:29:42 -0800 Subject: Boot Error with SELinux In-Reply-To: <1080652201.20950.14.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20040330172719.00a041c0@fletcher.ca> At 08:10 AM 3/30/04 -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote: >On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 01:42, Ed Fletcher wrote: > > > INIT: version 2.85 booting > > audit(1080597019.563:0): avc: denied {getattr} for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init > > path=/dev/initctl dev=hdg9 > >Most likely cause is that your filesystem isn't labeled. What is your >filesystem type? Should have occurred during the install, but you can >do a fixfiles relabel afterward as well. All filesystems are ext3. Can't fix any labels because system just keeps spitting out audit error messages and never gets any further. Ed -- Ed Fletcher ed at fletcher.ca "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 31 01:28:12 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:28:12 -0800 Subject: FC2 Test 2 CD 1 Does Not Boot In-Reply-To: <20040330080941.GC24467@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> <200403300139.26136.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <20040330080941.GC24467@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <20040331012812.GC13252@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:09:41AM -0800, Tom Mitchell wrote: > Just curious, Is the kernel in CD1 an enforcing mode kernel? If it is > what would be the interaction with an existing file system with policy > labels on all the low numbered inodes and more. > > In the future when folks begin to modify policy extensively could > there be an issue? To answer my own question the CDROM's kernel does not seem to be in enforcing mode. There are issues with an existing policy after an update. For me pam (or something) would not let root login until I booted with enforcing turned off. Then I reinstalled policy, and relabeled the FS etc. The good news is that grub made it easy to edit bootstrap flags and options. Back up and running.... in enforcing mode. I have not identified the exact error that kept root from logging in after the update process. If I can sort it out from the logs I will share. Later, Tom. BTW: I also had to use the FC1.90 #1 disc and switch to FC1.91's #1 disc at the VERY first opportunity. Both discs were burned the same way with Xroast on the same FC1 system and both pass the disk check stage. The new disc is not even seen as a boot disk for me and is just ignored by the BIOS. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From keithl at kl-ic.com Wed Mar 31 01:32:56 2004 From: keithl at kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:32:56 -0800 Subject: Managing Fedora Testing In-Reply-To: <20040330225737.AB08374749@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040330225737.AB08374749@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040331013256.GA3910@gate.kl-ic.com> Keith Lofstrom said: > ... > Instead, I would divide up the work into domains so that people can > choose a domain and test in that. Where to draw the line is difficult, > but I would probably make the domains "kernel and drivers", "installation > and update", "X and desktops", and "applications". Obviously, many > problems will cross domains, but to the extent that you can partition > things you reduce the scope of most problems. William Hooper replies: > What is preventing you from updating the "domain" you choose from Rawhide > and testing? Nothing prevents me from doing that, but it does not resemble my goal, which is to work with a group of like-minded individuals to locate functional and conceptual errors in a "distro" - that is, a collection of software packages that play well together. If all packages in a distro were autonomous and well behaved, then it would be easy to do as you say - in fact, there would not need to be a Fedora test team, just individual test teams associated with each package, checking conformance to specification. If there were just 20 packages in a distro, a domain system would not be useful, twenty items is easy to keep track of. But as it is, there are thousands of packages in the Fedora distro, with strong coupling between many. Without further partitioning, that is a recipe for engineering disaster. No mind is big enough to encompass all the interactions. So you break the problem down. "I am here to help" followed by "you're not good enough, go away" is OK if you want a late, hard-to-use, buggy distro. A response of "here, work on these things, leave me alone" is quite a bit more useful. I am proposing one way to partition useful testing tasks for the non-elite, a technique that works well in other fields. There are no doubt other techniques that work well, too. The testing performed so far by the elite has been incomplete, and focuses on install/kernel/code-structure issues rather than usage issues, because that is where this particular elite lives. Out here in the "other" world, where an error message should be a pointer to a config file rather than a source code file, somebody has to check whether the error messages really help Jane User fix her config files. The best person to do that is Jane. How can we help her participate? If she cannot participate, in what sense is this a community effort? If you limit debugging to a small subset of eyes, you will only find a small subset of bugs. The technical name for this approach is "Microsoft". Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl at ieee.org Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs From pabos at glypsube.org Wed Mar 31 01:35:57 2004 From: pabos at glypsube.org (Patrick) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:35:57 -0800 Subject: Booting from an ISO. Message-ID: <1080696957.5528.5.camel@glypsube.org> Is it possible to configure grub to boot from an ISO image on a harddrive partition? I'd like to try out FC2 Test2 but I'd rather not burn CDs which have such a short shelf-life. If I can find a way I'd like to create a 3GB partition and copy the FC2 Test2 DVD ISO there and then boot directly off of the ISO on that partition from grub. -- Patrick From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Wed Mar 31 02:01:12 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:01:12 +0200 Subject: Another person's experience installing FC2 test 2 Message-ID: <1080698472.1862.19.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> I am running a dual boot Win2k/Fedora system. Originally formatted by Win2k for the NTFS and Fat32 partitions and formatted by RH7/8/9 for the ext3 and linux swap partitions. I got the already known complaints during the install. I couldn't do a hard disk install because I didn't have a driver. The CDROM install warned about partition alignment problems. I didn't upgrade my FC1 system but rather installed FC2 to an existing ext3 partition which I bravely reformatted as reiserfs. The installation went smoothly and rapidly. Rebooting, I found to my annoyance, that the boot loader was overridden and now pointed to somewhere that didn't have my fc1 configuration, thus forcing me to do some grub.conf editting. But more seriously, with selinux turned on, I couldn't start. init did not have the proper permissions. Rebooting with selinux turned off, didn't help since there was no inittab. Copying the inittab from fc1 didn't help since there was no rc.d/rc. How should I proceed? From sehh at altered.com Wed Mar 31 02:25:10 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 03:25:10 +0100 Subject: Booting from an ISO. In-Reply-To: <1080696957.5528.5.camel@glypsube.org> References: <1080696957.5528.5.camel@glypsube.org> Message-ID: <20040331032510.402e0037@ekolaptis.> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:35:57 -0800 "Patrick" wrote: > Is it possible to configure grub to boot from an ISO image on a > harddrive partition? I'd like to try out FC2 Test2 but I'd rather not > burn CDs which have such a short shelf-life. If I can find a way I'd > like to create a 3GB partition and copy the FC2 Test2 DVD ISO there and > then boot directly off of the ISO on that partition from grub. What i do, is to use an x86 emulator which simulates a whole compulter, then i can play with it as much as i want without rebooting. Under OS/2 and Windoze i've used VirtualPC, which emulates a computer with full hardware. Under Linux you can use bochs which can be downloaded from http://bochs.sourceforge.net/ No need to reboot or make space in your work machine, just create a virtual pc ;) From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Mar 31 02:39:18 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:39:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Managing Fedora Testing In-Reply-To: <20040331013256.GA3910@gate.kl-ic.com> References: <20040330225737.AB08374749@hormel.redhat.com> <20040331013256.GA3910@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: <65150.65.40.71.80.1080700758.squirrel@65.40.71.80> Keith Lofstrom said: > > Keith Lofstrom said: >> ... >> Instead, I would divide up the work into domains so that people can >> choose a domain and test in that. Where to draw the line is difficult, >> but I would probably make the domains "kernel and drivers", >> "installation >> and update", "X and desktops", and "applications". Obviously, many >> problems will cross domains, but to the extent that you can partition >> things you reduce the scope of most problems. > > William Hooper replies: >> What is preventing you from updating the "domain" you choose from >> Rawhide >> and testing? > > Nothing prevents me from doing that, but it does not resemble my > goal, which is to work with a group of like-minded individuals to > locate functional and conceptual errors in a "distro" - that is, a > collection of software packages that play well together. If all > packages in a distro were autonomous and well behaved, then it > would be easy to do as you say - in fact, there would not need to > be a Fedora test team, just individual test teams associated with > each package, checking conformance to specification. If there were > just 20 packages in a distro, a domain system would not be useful, > twenty items is easy to keep track of. > > But as it is, there are thousands of packages in the Fedora distro, > with strong coupling between many. Without further partitioning, > that is a recipe for engineering disaster. No mind is big enough > to encompass all the interactions. So you break the problem down. What is stopping you from just updating the 20 or so packages you want to test? I still don't see the benefit of trying to track 5 different trees and somehow magically merge them. It just causes confusion because person A sees a bug, but it has been fixed in another tree. How do you handle that? Test what you feel qualified to test. Update what you want to update from Rawhide (like when you find a bug and want to see if the newer version fixes it). Report bugs. I don't see what the issue is. The current development model has worked up through RH 9... -- William Hooper From pri.rhl1 at iadonisi.to Wed Mar 31 02:41:10 2004 From: pri.rhl1 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:41:10 -0500 Subject: FC2T2 Upgrade & SELinux In-Reply-To: References: <20040329232445.GN1532@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <1080700870.12956.28.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 18:25, netopml at newview.com wrote: > cra at WPI.EDU ("Charles R. Anderson") writes: > > Upgrading to SELinux is too hard. > > Not it's not. You install both policy and checkpolicy rpms, you reboot. You > run "fixfiles relabel", you reboot one more time and you're done. And it's > all in the FAQ whose url was given prior and in the release notes... You forgot one step. After typing 'fixfiles relabel' and hitting Enter should be "Wait a long time and don't hit reset". :-) (I didn't, but I was little worried about how long it was taking.) -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Mar 31 02:52:13 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:52:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Booting from an ISO. In-Reply-To: <1080696957.5528.5.camel@glypsube.org> References: <1080696957.5528.5.camel@glypsube.org> Message-ID: <65149.65.40.71.80.1080701533.squirrel@65.40.71.80> Patrick said: > Is it possible to configure grub to boot from an ISO image on a > harddrive partition? I'd like to try out FC2 Test2 but I'd rather not > burn CDs which have such a short shelf-life. If I can find a way I'd > like to create a 3GB partition and copy the FC2 Test2 DVD ISO there and > then boot directly off of the ISO on that partition from grub. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/msg00445.html Seems to be working for the install I'm trying now. -- William Hooper From icon at linux.duke.edu Wed Mar 31 02:54:55 2004 From: icon at linux.duke.edu (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:54:55 -0500 Subject: cardmgr: no sockets found! Message-ID: <406A32FF.80605@linux.duke.edu> Hello again, all: I just reinstalled my testing laptop with FC2T2 (it's been running the same, but continuously yum-upgraded from fc1). Now I can't get my pcmcia to work, when I try to start it, I get "Cardmgr: no sockets found!". Anyone seen this happen? This is a nothing-fancy p2-366 generic-brand laptop. Pcmcia has been working quite well on it since a long time ago. Regards, -- Konstantin ("Icon") Ryabitsev Duke Physics Systems Admin, RHCE I am looking for a job in Canada! http://linux.duke.edu/~icon/cajob.ptml -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From serquicia at argentina.com Wed Mar 31 02:59:18 2004 From: serquicia at argentina.com (Santiago Erquicia) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 20:59:18 -0600 Subject: Rhythmbox volume doesn't work Message-ID: <1080701958.2313.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> I submitted a bug about rhythmbox not changing the volume with the volume controller inside the application. I have the last version updated as today and I installed the test2 version from scratch. Does anyone has the same problem? From smearp at mac.com Wed Mar 31 03:02:53 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:02:53 -0800 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329211923.00a003f0@fletcher.ca> References: <20040329201608.B65F7740A3@hormel.redhat.com> <5.0.0.25.2.20040329211923.00a003f0@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: Hey Ed- Do you have the Bugzilla bug # for this problem (So I can add to it)? I too can not boot to the CD (all previous Fedora versions worked fine) on a Soyo KT400 MB with a Memorex DVD Drive as secondary master... -Sean On Mar 29, 2004, at 9:42 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote: > At 09:01 PM 3/29/04 -0800, someone wrote: > >> I too can not get the CD to boot... when I have no problem in the past >> with booting from various CDs including FC2Test1 and FC1. > > > Same as the rest - had to boot from FC1T1 disk and switch to FC2T2 > disk at the first prompt. Install seems to go fine from there. > (Won't boot to X but it installed. I had better luck with T1.) > > Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7VM400M-P with Award bios v6.00PG dated > 2003/11/24 (latest). I have no IDE hard disks, just two SATA disks > and an LG DVD/CD burner GSA-4081B on the secondary IDE bus. > > Managed to boot a Compaq Evo N800c laptop and an older (Athlon 750) > desktop with FC2T2 Disk 1 though. > > I've entered this on Bugzilla. From serquicia at argentina.com Wed Mar 31 03:06:20 2004 From: serquicia at argentina.com (Santiago Erquicia) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:06:20 -0600 Subject: Normal users cannot log in Message-ID: <1080702380.2313.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> I installed FC2 test2 from scratch and I cannot make any normal user log in. I had to disable selinux in order to make it. This is the error log under "System log": Mar 30 02:28:58 localhost gdm[3414]: gdm_slave_session_start: Home directory for pampa: '/home/pampa' does not exist! Mar 30 02:28:58 localhost kernel: audit(1080635338.200:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=3414 exe=/usr/bin/gdm-binary path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.237:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=4651 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.240:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=4652 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.245:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=4655 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.246:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=4656 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.270:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=4658 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir It says that the directory didn't exist while it was there. Asked if I would like to use '/' as my home directory. If I say yes, the gdm log in blocks without even showing any of the initialization status. If I say no, it goes back to gdm. Anyone can see the same? From serquicia at argentina.com Wed Mar 31 03:09:21 2004 From: serquicia at argentina.com (Santiago Erquicia) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:09:21 -0600 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: References: <20040329201608.B65F7740A3@hormel.redhat.com> <5.0.0.25.2.20040329211923.00a003f0@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: <1080702561.2313.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 21:02, Sean Earp wrote: > Hey Ed- > > Do you have the Bugzilla bug # for this problem (So I can add to it)? > I too can not boot to the CD (all previous Fedora versions worked fine) > on a Soyo KT400 MB with a Memorex DVD Drive as secondary master... > > -Sean > > On Mar 29, 2004, at 9:42 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote: > > > At 09:01 PM 3/29/04 -0800, someone wrote: > > > >> I too can not get the CD to boot... when I have no problem in the past > >> with booting from various CDs including FC2Test1 and FC1. > > > > > > Same as the rest - had to boot from FC1T1 disk and switch to FC2T2 > > disk at the first prompt. Install seems to go fine from there. > > (Won't boot to X but it installed. I had better luck with T1.) > > > > Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7VM400M-P with Award bios v6.00PG dated > > 2003/11/24 (latest). I have no IDE hard disks, just two SATA disks > > and an LG DVD/CD burner GSA-4081B on the secondary IDE bus. > > > > Managed to boot a Compaq Evo N800c laptop and an older (Athlon 750) > > desktop with FC2T2 Disk 1 though. > > > > I've entered this on Bugzilla. > I had no problem booting from CDs. I have a Toshiba Satellite A20. From mrsam at courier-mta.com Wed Mar 31 03:16:42 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:16:42 -0500 Subject: cardmgr: no sockets found! References: <406A32FF.80605@linux.duke.edu> Message-ID: Konstantin Ryabitsev writes: > Hello again, all: > > I just reinstalled my testing laptop with FC2T2 (it's been running the > same, but continuously yum-upgraded from fc1). Now I can't get my pcmcia > to work, when I try to start it, I get "Cardmgr: no sockets found!". > > Anyone seen this happen? > > This is a nothing-fancy p2-366 generic-brand laptop. Pcmcia has been > working quite well on it since a long time ago. Run 'dump_cis', and feed it to Bugzilla. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From icon at linux.duke.edu Wed Mar 31 03:20:28 2004 From: icon at linux.duke.edu (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:20:28 -0500 Subject: cardmgr: no sockets found! In-Reply-To: References: <406A32FF.80605@linux.duke.edu> Message-ID: <406A38FC.2040408@linux.duke.edu> Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Run 'dump_cis', and feed it to Bugzilla. > Not much to feed: open(): no such device Regards, -- Konstantin ("Icon") Ryabitsev Duke Physics Systems Admin, RHCE I am looking for a job in Canada! http://linux.duke.edu/~icon/cajob.ptml -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 03:43:45 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 00:43:45 -0300 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: <200403310059.16223.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <200403310059.16223.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: On Mar 30, 2004, Markku Kolkka wrote: > Alexandre Oliva kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika keskiviikko, > 31. maaliskuuta 2004 00:07): >> boot.iso is just a small extract of the boot CD. If the >> latter doesn't work, it's highly unlikely that the former >> will. > Really? Yup. Same isolinux, same vmlinux, same initrd.img. At least it was that way last I checked, back in FC1. I don't see why it would have changed. > I couldn't boot from FC2test2 CD1, but I could boot with boot.iso > from that same CD and install over network. Did you do anything different when you burned boot.iso? Did you actually check that your CD1 was burned correctly (since you couldn't boot it, you'd have to run /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/checkisomd5 --verbose /dev/cdrom on a system that has anaconda-runtime installed) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 03:46:33 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 00:46:33 -0300 Subject: wine problem In-Reply-To: <200403301644.46029.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200403301644.46029.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Mar 30, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > What do I need to do to workaround this? Err... Why are you posting this question here? Wine is not part of any Fedora Core test release AFAIK. Last I tried to run wine on FC2test1, I had to set LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.19, IIRC. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 03:53:11 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 00:53:11 -0300 Subject: cardmgr: no sockets found! In-Reply-To: <406A32FF.80605@linux.duke.edu> References: <406A32FF.80605@linux.duke.edu> Message-ID: On Mar 30, 2004, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > I just reinstalled my testing laptop with FC2T2 (it's been running the > same, but continuously yum-upgraded from fc1). Now I can't get my > pcmcia to work, when I try to start it, I get "Cardmgr: no sockets > found!". Does the patch here help? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116205 -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From pri.rhl1 at iadonisi.to Wed Mar 31 03:58:07 2004 From: pri.rhl1 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:58:07 -0500 Subject: vnc.so causing xorg X server to segfault Message-ID: <1080705487.12956.33.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Title says it all. This was an FC2T1 system kept up to date with yum and upgraded to FC2T2 with yum, including manually following the procedure to enable selinux (I believe in relaxed mode). There's not much info about the crash in /var/log/XFree86.0.log other than the sig11, so I don't know if it's a general problem or selinux related. Commenting out the 'Load vnc' line in my XF86Config prevents the sig11. I will be rebooting with selinux=0 to see if that fixes it. Meanwhile, has anyone who has done a clean install run into this with vnc.so? -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From rhallyx at mindspring.com Wed Mar 31 03:58:10 2004 From: rhallyx at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:58:10 -0500 Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298 does not work Message-ID: <406A41D2.4030001@mindspring.com> when I ran up2date today it appeared to install kernel 2.6.4-1.298. There were no errors reported. But it did not update grub as usual, it did not put any files in /boot, and when I do rpm -q kernel it does not show 2.6.4-1.298 (It shows the other kernels 253 etc) [root at old1 boot]# rpm -q kernel kernel-2.6.3-2.1.242 kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246 kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 Below are the messages in the up2date log file. [Tue Mar 30 20:50:28 2004] up2date installing packages: ['GConf2-2.6.0-1', 'GConf2-devel-2.6.0-1', 'Guppi-0.40.3-18', 'Guppi-devel-0.40.3-18', 'ImageMagick-5.5.7.15-1.3', 'ImageMagick-c++-5.5.7.15-1.3', 'ImageMagick-c++-devel-5.5.7.15-1.3', 'ImageMagick-devel-5.5.7.15-1.3', 'ImageMagick-perl-5.5.7.15-1.3', 'Maelstrom-3.0.6-3', 'a2ps-4.13b-37', 'amanda-2.4.4p2-3', 'amanda-client-2.4.4p2-3', 'amanda-devel-2.4.4p2-3', 'amanda-server-2.4.4p2-3', 'anaconda-9.92-0.20040323181753', 'anaconda-runtime-9.92-0.20040323181753', 'apr-0.9.4-11', 'apr-devel-0.9.4-11', 'apr-util-0.9.4-12', 'apr-util-devel-0.9.4-12', 'aumix-2.8-8', 'beecrypt-3.1.0-3', 'beecrypt-devel-3.1.0-3', 'beecrypt-python-3.1.0-3', 'bind-9.2.3-13', 'bind-chroot-9.2.3-13', 'bind-devel-9.2.3-13', 'bind-libs-9.2.3-13', 'bind-utils-9.2.3-13', 'binutils-2.15.90.0.1.1-2', 'busybox-1.00.pre8-2', 'busybox-anaconda-1.00.pre8-2', 'control-center-2.5.4-2', 'dhclient-3.0.1rc12-4', 'dhcp-3.0.1rc12-4', 'dhcp-devel-3.0.1rc12-4', 'esound-0.2.34-1', 'esound-devel-0.2.34-1', 'file-4.07-3', 'freeglut-2.2.0-11', 'freeglut-devel-2.2.0-11', 'gaim-0.75.99-20040328cvs', 'gedit-2.5.92-1', 'gedit-devel-2.5.92-1', 'glibc-2.3.3-20', 'glibc-common-2.3.3-20', 'glibc-devel-2.3.3-20', 'glibc-headers-2.3.3-20', 'glibc-profile-2.3.3-20', 'glibc-utils-2.3.3-20', 'gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-3', 'gnome-vfs2-2.6.0-1', 'gnome-vfs2-devel-2.6.0-1', 'gnome-vfs2-smb-2.6.0-1', 'gok-0.9.10-2', 'gpm-1.20.1-45', 'gpm-devel-1.20.1-45', 'hotplug-2004_03_11-1', 'htdig-3.2.0b5-7', 'htdig-web-3.2.0b5-7', 'httpd-2.0.49-1', 'httpd-devel-2.0.49-1', 'httpd-manual-2.0.49-1', 'hwdata-0.114-1', 'initscripts-7.49-1', 'ipxutils-2.2.4-1', 'kdebase-3.2.1-1.5', 'kdebase-devel-3.2.1-1.5', 'kdegames-3.2.1-2', 'kdegames-devel-3.2.1-2', 'kdenetwork-3.2.1-3', 'kdenetwork-devel-3.2.1-3', 'kdepim-3.2.1-4', 'kdepim-devel-3.2.1-4', 'kernel-2.6.4-1.298', 'kernel-doc-2.6.4-1.298', 'kernel-source-2.6.4-1.298', 'kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.126', 'kinput2-canna-wnn6-v3.1-17', 'less-382-3', 'libbonobo-2.6.0-2', 'libbonobo-devel-2.6.0-2', 'libselinux-1.6-5', 'libselinux-devel-1.6-5', 'libwnck-2.5.90-3', 'libwnck-devel-2.5.90-3', 'libxml2-2.6.8-1', 'libxml2-devel-2.6.8-1', 'libxml2-python-2.6.8-1', 'lm_sensors-2.8.3-5', 'lm_sensors-devel-2.8.3-5', 'man-1.5m2-5', 'mod_ssl-2.0.49-1', 'modutils-2.4.26-14', 'ncpfs-2.2.4-1', 'neon-0.24.4-4', 'neon-devel-0.24.4-4', 'net-snmp-5.1.1-1', 'net-snmp-devel-5.1.1-1', 'net-snmp-perl-5.1.1-1', 'net-snmp-utils-5.1.1-1', 'nptl-devel-2.3.3-20', 'nscd-2.3.3-20', 'nss_ldap-217-1', 'openssl-0.9.7a-35', 'openssl-devel-0.9.7a-35', 'openssl-perl-0.9.7a-35', 'pcre-4.5-2', 'pcre-devel-4.5-2', 'policy-1.9.1-2', 'policy-sources-1.9.1-2', 'policycoreutils-1.9-16', 'qt-3.3.1-0.7', 'qt-MySQL-3.3.1-0.7', 'qt-ODBC-3.3.1-0.7', 'qt-PostgreSQL-3.3.1-0.7', 'qt-designer-3.3.1-0.7', 'qt-devel-3.3.1-0.7', 'rhythmbox-0.7.1-2', 'rp-pppoe-3.5-12', 'rpmdb-fedora-1.91-0.20040330', 'samba-3.0.3-1.pre1', 'samba-client-3.0.3-1.pre1', 'samba-common-3.0.3-1.pre1', 'samba-swat-3.0.3-1.pre1', 'sash-3.7-3', 'setools-1.2.1-3', 'setools-devel-1.2.1-3', 'setools-gui-1.2.1-3', 'shared-mime-info-0.14-1', 'slocate-2.7-8', 'sylpheed-0.9.10-2', 'system-config-bind-2.0.2-4', 'system-config-date-1.7.3-1', 'system-config-display-1.0.12-1', 'system-config-netboot-0.1.3-4', 'system-config-printer-0.6.98-1', 'system-config-printer-gui-0.6.98-1', 'system-config-samba-1.2.9-1', 'system-config-securitylevel-1.3.9-1', 'system-config-securitylevel-tui-1.3.9-1', 'system-config-services-0.8.8-4', 'tetex-2.0.2-13', 'tetex-afm-2.0.2-13', 'tetex-doc-2.0.2-13', 'tetex-dvips-2.0.2-13', 'tetex-fonts-2.0.2-13', 'tetex-latex-2.0.2-13', 'tetex-xdvi-2.0.2-13', 'udev-023-1', 'util-linux-2.12-15', 'vim-X11-6.2.403-1', 'vim-common-6.2.403-1', 'vim-enhanced-6.2.403-1', 'vim-minimal-6.2.403-1', 'vnc-4.0-1.beta4.9', 'vnc-server-4.0-1.beta4.9', 'w3m-0.5-1', 'webalizer-2.01_10-22', 'xinitrc-3.38-1', 'zip-2.3-22'] [Tue Mar 30 22:05:51 2004] up2date Modifying bootloader config to include the new kernel info [Tue Mar 30 22:05:51 2004] up2date Adding 2.6.4-1.298 to bootloader config [Tue Mar 30 22:05:51 2004] up2date Adding 2.6.4-1.298 to bootloader config [Tue Mar 30 22:05:52 2004] up2date Running lilo with the new configuration [Tue Mar 30 22:05:53 2004] up2date Modifying bootloader config to include the new kernel info [Tue Mar 30 22:05:53 2004] up2date Adding 2.6.4-1.298 to bootloader config [Tue Mar 30 22:05:53 2004] up2date Running lilo with the new configuration [root at old1 boot]# This shows (supposedly) that all those packages were updated. If the kernel was not installed when the log says it was, how many others were not really updated? another problem is that I use grub! ( have never used lilo on this box) and it was not updated. the log shows that the kernel install tried to update lilo. btw I am running in enforcing mode as root (with role sysmgr_r): Where do I start with the bug reports? the kernel 'cause it did not install? up2date because it did not report any errors when something was very worng? selinux policy? there are hundreds of avc denied messages... please let me know how to proceed with getting my system updated in enforcing mode and if there is additional information I can provide. the messages file is 796261 bytes and I have saved a copy. thanks, Richard Hally Richard Hally From icon at linux.duke.edu Wed Mar 31 04:02:38 2004 From: icon at linux.duke.edu (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:02:38 -0500 Subject: cardmgr: no sockets found! In-Reply-To: References: <406A32FF.80605@linux.duke.edu> Message-ID: <406A42DE.7000507@linux.duke.edu> Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > Does the patch here help? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116205 > Yes indeed! It's all much better now. However, looking at the patch, it doesn't look like it's anything but a nasty hack. Is there going to be a better solution? Regards, -- Konstantin ("Icon") Ryabitsev Duke Physics Systems Admin, RHCE I am looking for a job in Canada! http://linux.duke.edu/~icon/cajob.ptml -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From law at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 04:04:11 2004 From: law at redhat.com (law at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:04:11 -0700 Subject: wine problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "31 Mar 2004 00:46:33 -0300." Message-ID: <200403310404.i2V44Bcj020374@speedy.slc.redhat.com> In message , Alexandre Oliva wri tes: >On Mar 30, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > >> What do I need to do to workaround this? > >Err... Why are you posting this question here? Wine is not part of >any Fedora Core test release AFAIK. > >Last I tried to run wine on FC2test1, I had to set >LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.19, IIRC. Really? I didn't need such hackery, at least I haven't with FC1. I haven't loaded up FC2 on the one box which runs wine here though. jeff From ckloiber at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 04:10:14 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:10:14 +0800 Subject: FC2T2 DVD - boots, but no media check In-Reply-To: <20040330214313.GA1476421@hiwaay.net> References: <20040330214313.GA1476421@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1080706214.4711.24.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 05:43, Chris Adams wrote: > I successfully booted both the FC2T2 DVD and CD images on my notebook > (Fujitsu Lifebook C2010). The CD comes up and prompts to check the > media, but the DVD image does not. Shouldn't it? > > Bugzilla #119490 That depends on how implantisomd5 was called (assuming it was caled at all) during the mastering of the DVD iso. Boot the DVD with 'linux mediacheck' and see if it passes. If if does, it's still a 'good' disk. If not, then either implantisomd5 was not used when the DVD was created, or you have a 'bad' disk. I typically rsync the files to my local machine (minus the SRPMS to save bandwidth) then create my DVD iso locally using my script, so I am not sure what the distribution DVD's default behavior is. It should probably be similar to the downloadable CD isos. -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From ernesto at ornl.gov Wed Mar 31 04:08:26 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:08:26 -0500 Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: <200403300942.28745.lowen@pari.edu> References: <200403300942.28745.lowen@pari.edu> Message-ID: <1080706106.19071.52.camel@matrix> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:42, Lamar Owen wrote: > [I may regret this, but.....] > On Tuesday 30 March 2004 07:47 am, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > Sorry, I won't be so nice. > > I see this as plain negligence!! > > Who is in charge of Q/A?? > > We are. You don't like that? Unsubscribe from this list. [Note: I do not > work for Red Hat. I do however use Fedora Core in production on critical > systems and have a great interest in seeing Core 2 be the best that it can > be. Useless rants don't help Fedora be the best it can be.] I also am interesting in Fedora being the best. With the tight schedule wasting time on not getting the installation CDs correct "out of door" does not make sense. However, I will rant no more; the points you make below are well taken. I am proceeding with FC2T2 on more of my test machines and indeed will use bugzilla. > > > And don't give the excuse that this is a test release, I am tired of > > hearing that excuse. > > Then don't try to install a test release. Wait on the official release. > > I am tired of hearing from people who apparently have no business attempting > to install a test release. Test releases are not for newbies and they are > not for the faint of heart or for the quick to anger. They are for the > patient. If you are not patient do not install the test releases. > > Ok, so it didn't install. Do something useful: > 1.) File a Bugzilla report with your exact hardware, the exact procedure, and > all those nice things that Bugzilla asks you for. Be sure to search on > various terms for the bug you are describing; spend a little time to save the > developers some time and make them more productive. Duplicate bugs yeild > less developer productivity. After all, you are installing the test to help > the developers, right? > > 2.) If you don't know how to use Red Hat's bugzilla, then learn how to use Red > Hat's bugzilla before you throw a useless rant onto an already crowded > mailing list. Continue throwing useless reports on the list and you will > find your way into people's killfiles (so that they will simply not see your > postings). Perhaps I may be in some people's killfiles already, but I > digress... :-) > > 3.) Remember rule number one: if it isn't in bugzilla, then it isn't a bug. > You find a bug; you get to file it. You don't want to spend the time to file > it? Don't go bug hunting. Installing the test release is implicit > confirmation that you intend to go bug hunting; ergo, if you don't want that > responsibility, don't install the test. Pretty simple, no? > > 4.) If it eats your data, it is your fault for installing it. The > announcement is plain and clear (and inimitably funny, thanks to some, ah, > 'Interesting' humor interjected by Bill N.); do not install on a machine on > which you care about the data. You ignore that warning at your own peril; if > you don't like that, then don't install the test. > > 5.) If you can, investigate what went wrong. Start checking various pieces > of hardware; as an example, I had a machine with a generic 52x CDROM, and > needed to install Win98. I was using the CD that came with the box, which is > a Dell. The CD drive was not original; the original drive had broken. The > install went smoothly up to the first reboot, at which point Win98 gave the > wonderfully helpful 'Windows Protection Error' screen. Mind you, this is > after all the files have been copied off the CD. The short of it is that > Win98's 32bit IDE driver would not work with that CD-ROM drive (the install > process uses the real mode driver which works fine); I had to find an older > drive. The 52X CD drive works great with Win2k and SuSE 9.0. > > 6.) Think before you post acerbic messages to a publicly archived mailing > list, where it can come back to haunt you. > > 7.) If you fail to heed these simple guidelines, understand that your posting > of trash such as this whole thread is counterproductive and hurts the > project. But maybe that's the intention. > > For the original poster, you really need to firm up your bug postings. The > original posting had way too little detail to help anyone find the bug; how > can you sanely expect the Red Hat developers to have your exact hardware > configuration? Just because you have it doesn't mean anyone else has it. > Likewise, do you really think Red Hat would release something without ANY > internal QA into installation? FC2 Test2 actually does install for some > people. The challenge is finding out why it didn't for you, and for a > developer that doesn't have your hardware to be able to do that you must > provide a constructive report as to your exact hardware configuration. > > You said _IDE_ CDROM a number of times; you do realize that IDE!=IDE, right? > That is, not all IDE controllers are created equal. To verify that, check > the IDE driver source in the kernel. So the nForce2 IDE controller and the > Intel 845 IDE controller, to pick two fairly popular examples, might require > entirely different kernel initialization. Once initialized, they are still a > little different and might require different code paths in the driver. What > does that mean to you? It means that it might work on my Pentium 4 with the > 845 and not with your Athlon with the nForce 2. It would entirely depend > upon the modules compiled for the BOOT kernel and the initrd that that kernel > loads; if the right drivers are not there, then 'it no workee!' And since the > CD boots the BOOT kernel, and the BOOT kernel and the installed kernel are > compiled differently, then it might install but not reboot! (I have HAD that > to happen on my Athlon laptop back in pre-7.something days; there was a code > optimization that broke pretty badly on the Athlon at that time. BTW, that > was when I learned not to install a test release on my production > hardware.... :-)). > > FWIW I intend to install the test on several machines; unfortunately not my > Athlon laptop (which is my production box) nor my good servers. I may get > time to try it on my slightly older AthlonXP box and my socket370 P3-S 1.3G > box, but probably not on my ServerWorksIII Xeon box (as it's production and > mission-critical). Use some common sense; that's all. Is that too much to > ask of testers? > > ISTM that Red Hat would have a much smaller headache if they went back to the > old private beta/public beta scheme. Not to brag or anything (since I was a > part of the old private beta team), but Red Hat's private beta program was > more than a little bit responsible for the solidity of past beta and > production releases. Open development is a two-edged sword, and cuts coming > and a-going. > > As to there being a respin, sure, there will be a respin. It's called test 3. > Until then, try to find the problem or a workaround. > -- > Lamar Owen > Director of Information Technology > Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute > 1 PARI Drive > Rosman, NC 28772 > (828)862-5554 > www.pari.edu -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From ed at fletcher.ca Wed Mar 31 04:11:01 2004 From: ed at fletcher.ca (Ed Fletcher) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 20:11:01 -0800 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329211923.00a003f0@fletcher.ca> <20040329201608.B65F7740A3@hormel.redhat.com> <5.0.0.25.2.20040329211923.00a003f0@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20040330200612.00a04430@fletcher.ca> At 07:02 PM 3/30/04 -0800, Sean wrote: >Hey Ed- > >Do you have the Bugzilla bug # for this problem (So I can add to it)? >I too can not boot to the CD (all previous Fedora versions worked fine) on >a Soyo KT400 MB with a Memorex DVD Drive as secondary master... It's bug number 119386 on Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119386 Ed -- Ed Fletcher ed at fletcher.ca "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin From jim at jbsys.com Wed Mar 31 04:18:18 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:18:18 -0700 Subject: x86_64 FC2T2 install (not) Message-ID: <01d601c416d7$3216a0e0$0a01a8c0@jbsys.com> I tried to install from the new FC2T2 CDs but there are a few problems. 1. No release notes 2. No Upgrade option 3. Selecting manual or automatic Druid formatting cause the system to restart saying no install device is available. Next step? I have a ASUS K8V motherboard, AMD-64 3200+ processor, 1GB mem. FC1T1 is running on /dev/hdb7 partition. From pri.rhl1 at iadonisi.to Wed Mar 31 04:19:35 2004 From: pri.rhl1 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:19:35 -0500 Subject: vnc.so causing xorg X server to segfault In-Reply-To: <1080705487.12956.33.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <1080705487.12956.33.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <1080706775.12956.46.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 22:58, Paul Iadonisi wrote: > Title says it all. This was an FC2T1 system kept up to date with yum > and upgraded to FC2T2 with yum, including manually following the > procedure to enable selinux (I believe in relaxed mode). There's not > much info about the crash in /var/log/XFree86.0.log other than the > sig11, so I don't know if it's a general problem or selinux related. > Commenting out the 'Load vnc' line in my XF86Config prevents the sig11. > I will be rebooting with selinux=0 to see if that fixes it. Meanwhile, > has anyone who has done a clean install run into this with vnc.so? Replying to my own message...Looks like it's the new beta4.9 version of vnc that's the culprit. Downgrading to beta4.8.1 fixed the problem. Filed as bugzilla #119530 against vnc. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From ckloiber at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 04:22:27 2004 From: ckloiber at redhat.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:22:27 +0800 Subject: x86_64 FC2T2 install (not) In-Reply-To: <01d601c416d7$3216a0e0$0a01a8c0@jbsys.com> References: <01d601c416d7$3216a0e0$0a01a8c0@jbsys.com> Message-ID: <1080706947.4711.31.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 12:18, James C. Bevier wrote: > I tried to install from the new FC2T2 CDs but > there are a few problems. > 1. No release notes > 2. No Upgrade option > 3. Selecting manual or automatic Druid formatting > cause the system to restart saying no install device > is available. > > Next step? > > I have a ASUS K8V motherboard, AMD-64 3200+ > processor, 1GB mem. FC1T1 is running on /dev/hdb7 > partition. Make sure your system is behaving like mine does, and if so add your comments and system information to bug# 118941 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118941 -- Chris Kloiber, RHCX Red Hat, Inc. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed Mar 31 04:28:02 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:28:02 -0500 Subject: Two errors with new install- SELinux Message-ID: <406A48D2.50003@insight.rr.com> I installed FC2T2 and found out that 105 packages needed to be upgrade. I then tried to upgrade with up2date using the mirror seeking feature. The first mirror (kernel.org) said the system was up2date. Running up2date again produced the dep problem in the up2date-problem file attached. The alert dialog box was encountered when I initially tried to receive mail from my ISP server (SMTP) I can create new mail alright though. The .mozilla directory with the email accounts were copied from a backup from another installation that I burned the CDRs on. I also checked out the clock-applet and it still segfaults as did devel fail. As a note about the theory about FC2T1 (still using xfree86 and 20 upgrades behind, FYI) having issues with burning CDRs. I burned the FC2T2 disks with xcdroast for disks 1-4 (RPMS). Disk 4 was a bad burn. I then burned it again with nautilus cd burning feature successfully. I needed to do a clean install. I didn't think that it would be so many upgraded packages behind development though. Whenusing usermount (Disk Management), SELinux still gives an error as pasted below: There are no filesystems which you are allowed to mount or unmount. Contact your administrator. All the bugs for development that I encountered are still there. The clean install works fine otherwise. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune><20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com><4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com><1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com><4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103><1080656915.3176.22.camel@family> Message-ID: <000701c416d9$2945c890$6500a8c0@p428> Please email me if u do, mail at Lotus-Notes.Net this is for core 2 test 2 1.91 of course thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Putnam" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: [SPAM] Re: FC2 test2 is a beta > Sandy Pond writes: > > > I'm one of those who can't boot and I'm not frustrated. It's a new > > release of beta software with several new things. If I wanted I could > > have waited a few day for some of the initial bugs to get flushed but I > > didn't. > > Where should we send the `halo' : ) > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 04:37:42 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 01:37:42 -0300 Subject: wine problem In-Reply-To: <200403310404.i2V44Bcj020374@speedy.slc.redhat.com> References: <200403310404.i2V44Bcj020374@speedy.slc.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mar 31, 2004, law at redhat.com wrote: > Really? I didn't need such hackery, at least I haven't with FC1. Yeah, it worked without that on FC1. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 04:49:00 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 01:49:00 -0300 Subject: wine problem In-Reply-To: References: <200403301644.46029.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Mar 31, 2004, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Last I tried to run wine on FC2test1, I had to set > LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.19, IIRC. Actually, make it 2.2.5. This is with newrpms' latest build of wine, BTW. $ rpm -q wine wine-0.20040321-1 -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 05:18:00 2004 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:18:00 -0500 Subject: Boot Error with SELinux In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20040330172719.00a041c0@fletcher.ca> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> <5.0.0.25.2.20040329215517.009d7800@fletcher.ca> <5.0.0.25.2.20040330172719.00a041c0@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: <406A5488.8060206@redhat.com> Ed Fletcher wrote: > At 08:10 AM 3/30/04 -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote: > >> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 01:42, Ed Fletcher wrote: >> >> > INIT: version 2.85 booting >> > audit(1080597019.563:0): avc: denied {getattr} for pid=1 >> exe=/sbin/init >> > path=/dev/initctl dev=hdg9 >> >> Most likely cause is that your filesystem isn't labeled. What is your >> filesystem type? Should have occurred during the install, but you can >> do a fixfiles relabel afterward as well. > > > All filesystems are ext3. Can't fix any labels because system just > keeps spitting out audit error messages and never gets any further. > Boot the machine in single user mode with enforcing=0 on the boot line, then login and relabel Dan > Ed > -- > > Ed Fletcher > ed at fletcher.ca > > "Ignorance more frequently begets > confidence than does knowledge." > - Charles Darwin > > From yonasb at netzero.com Wed Mar 31 05:21:23 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonas abraham) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:21:23 -0500 Subject: xscreensaver: Can't open display: :0.0 Message-ID: <406A5553.2040405@netzero.com> I am getting the ff error on xscreenaver xscreensaver: Can't open display: :0.0 xscreensaver: running as yonas/yonas (500/500) xscreensaver: Errors at startup are usually authorization problems. But you're not logging in as root (good!) so something else must be wrong. Did you read the manual and the FAQ? From riobaan at hotmail.com Wed Mar 31 05:25:49 2004 From: riobaan at hotmail.com (Rio Baan) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 05:25:49 +0000 Subject: FC2 test2 bugs Message-ID: Just installed test2 on a rack server for testing. Nice to see SELinux, and the IPsec tools in there. loaded up KDE... no sound card in the rack server, so I got the "error while initialising sound driver" message. The OK button didn't work on the window, and then it seemed to turn into some "Information - artsmessage" X window which just hung there and couldn't be closed. After that, the whole desktop just hung after I hit the red hat start button. Still waiting to test test2 on sata raid..... Also, did the game Kgoldrunner only work on KDE? Cause it's not working in Gnome... ;) Here's a message I got in root's mailbox on first boot: >From root at localhost.localdomain Wed Mar 31 13:45:02 2004 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:45:01 +0900 From: root at localhost.localdomain (Cron Daemon) To: root at localhost.localdomain Subject: Cron /usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: Use of uninitialized value in string at /usr/bin/mrtg line 72. Empty compile time value given to use lib at /usr/bin/mrtg line 72 Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/mrtg line 73. Can't locate MRTG_lib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /../lib/mrtg2 /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/bin/mrtg line 78. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/mrtg line 78. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From florin at andrei.myip.org Wed Mar 31 05:28:32 2004 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: 30 Mar 2004 21:28:32 -0800 Subject: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: <1080590769.1308.15.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> References: <1080590769.1308.15.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <1080710911.2578.0.camel@rivendell.home.local> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 12:06, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > Was Test2 supposed to be bootable from CD? > > I have tried on several boxes, (and yes the bootparms) are right in > the Bios, and this thing does not boot. > I reburned the image and still the same Same here. I'll add my report to bug #119386 -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From karwas at pk-telecom.com Wed Mar 31 05:56:22 2004 From: karwas at pk-telecom.com (Przemyslaw Karwasiecki) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:56:22 -0600 Subject: FC2 test2 DOES boot on thinkpad X21 - was Re: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20040330200612.00a04430@fletcher.ca> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20040329211923.00a003f0@fletcher.ca> <20040329201608.B65F7740A3@hormel.redhat.com> <5.0.0.25.2.20040329211923.00a003f0@fletcher.ca> <5.0.0.25.2.20040330200612.00a04430@fletcher.ca> Message-ID: <1080712581.19972.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> If anyone is interested, FC2 test2 DOES boot on Thinkpad X21,and recognizes IDE /dev/hda (IBM Thinkpad X21 with media slice attached with IDE CDROM in it) My $0.02, just to counterbalance messages about failure. Przemek On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 22:11, Ed Fletcher wrote: > At 07:02 PM 3/30/04 -0800, Sean wrote: > >Hey Ed- > > > >Do you have the Bugzilla bug # for this problem (So I can add to it)? > >I too can not boot to the CD (all previous Fedora versions worked fine) on > >a Soyo KT400 MB with a Memorex DVD Drive as secondary master... > > It's bug number 119386 on Bugzilla: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119386 > > Ed > -- > > Ed Fletcher > ed at fletcher.ca > > "Ignorance more frequently begets > confidence than does knowledge." > - Charles Darwin > From pmatilai at welho.com Wed Mar 31 06:59:19 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:59:19 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: <1080687449.1221.134.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080687449.1221.134.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 23:07, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > On Mar 30, 2004, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > > > But we expect to be able to install (even some glitches) and to boot. > > > > Based on what? Part of the testing is exactly on the installer. If > > you haven't been trying to install rawhide to report early problems > > that would make it to the test release otherwise, how would you expect > > people to know about them to fix them? > > I can understand the installation breaking on a piece of > software the RedHat/Fedora people don't have or if I made something > unusual. I cannot understand the installation breaking at the first > step on IDE disks or CDROMS (and booting from boot.iso): a test release Sorry but you don't get to choose where bugs occur, regardless of how convenient that would be. > is made for people exploring the million alleys that Redhat/Fedora > people cannot explore, it is useless to have people stumble upon > a major problem you couldn't fail because it was just 1 yard after > exiting Redhat's garage. Test releases are made so that more people with variety of hardware test it. Test2 boots + installs just fine for great many people, including my two test boxes which is much farther than 1 yard from RH garage. Help testing and finding what's causing this bug, whining doesn't help. These things can NOT be prevented, there's always going to be some box which isn't going to install, no matter what number of tests is run inside a particular vendor's labs. A workaround has been pointed out, now get on with the testing and stop whining. - Panu - From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Mar 31 06:59:46 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:59:46 +0100 Subject: Updating Message-ID: <1080716386.10906.32.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Anyone know the reason for these 1. Why it takes so long to do an update - I'm talking the installed reckoning on 300+ minutes to do the update! 2. Why the installer always fails on xorg-x11, yet I can install it manually (the installer reports bad media, hardware fault or out of memory)? I'm upgrading from FC1 to FC2t2 on the laptop (generic Celeron 1.2, 256Mb memory (reports 192 as 64Mb is shared with the video) - FC1 installed like a blast on it) TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From qralston+ml.redhat-fedora-test at andrew.cmu.edu Wed Mar 31 07:20:22 2004 From: qralston+ml.redhat-fedora-test at andrew.cmu.edu (James Ralston) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 02:20:22 -0500 Subject: DVD iso too big ? In-Reply-To: <406945D9.3070804@inet6.fr> References: <1080581662.1436.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4068612F.3060109@clara.co.uk> <1080582877.1436.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <406945D9.3070804@inet6.fr> Message-ID: <29560000.1080717622@localhost> On 2004-03-30 at 12:03:05+0200 Lionel Bouton wrote: > bittorrent should work (at least with the standard client) too. Confirmed: I successfully downloaded FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso using bittorrent-3.3-0.fdr.1.rh90. Now if only I could find a way to get dvdrecord to burn the stupid thing on RHL9... :( -- James Ralston, Information Technology Software Engineering Institute Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed Mar 31 07:29:49 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:29:49 +0200 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080687449.1221.134.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> Message-ID: <1080718188.1444.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mer 31/03/2004 ? 08:59, Panu Matilainen a ?crit : > A workaround has been pointed out, now get on with the testing and stop > whining. > The guy is disappointed by test2. Nobody is perfect. He will be happy with test3 if this mailing stays "tester-friendly". > - Panu - > From nphilipp at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 07:45:37 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:45:37 +0200 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: <1080718188.1444.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080687449.1221.134.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080718188.1444.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080719136.5312.45.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 09:29, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Le mer 31/03/2004 ? 08:59, Panu Matilainen a ?crit : > > A workaround has been pointed out, now get on with the testing and stop > > whining. > > > > The guy is disappointed by test2. Nobody is perfect. > He will be happy with test3 if this mailing stays "tester-friendly". Then let's talk about "developer-friendly" as well ;-). Remember, politeness works in both directions. Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 From nphilipp at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 07:52:40 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:52:40 +0200 Subject: Where are the libgimp RPMS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080719560.5312.53.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 23:22, Mark Haney wrote: > I'm trying to update FC2T2 and i"m getting a dependency error with xsane, > etc wanting libgimp-1.3, anyone have an idea where they are? I can't find > them on the CDs or any of the mirrors. FC2t2 had a prerelease of gimp 2.0, there is now gimp-2.0.0 final in Rawhide. You see the error because I didn't have the chance to rebuild the packages dependent on libgimp* against the final version. I also don't know why the final gimp package slipped into Rawhide, I wanted to release it only after I did the rebuilding ;-). In the meantime, you can just either skip updating gimp (e.g. "yum --exclude=gimp --exclude=gimp-devel update") or rebuild the SRPMS of xsane/gtkam/gimp-print against the new gimp-devel (uninstall the old xsane/gtkam/gimp-print packages, the update should succeed now, "rpmbuild --rebuild ..." the .src.rpms of these packages, install the binary RPMs generated). Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 From linuxnow at newtral.org Wed Mar 31 08:06:44 2004 From: linuxnow at newtral.org (Pau Aliagas) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:06:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FC2 test2 is a BAD joke In-Reply-To: References: <1080594706.1594.31.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <20040329224427.GB19294@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4068B8EB.3000207@progress.com> <200403301255.23071.manu@kromtek.com> <1080643862.4907.46.camel@wibbit.firebox.com> <4468.12.29.16.103.1080653029.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1080658252.3052.5.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080661707.3052.8.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <1080664178.25190.24.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> <4069A57C.9020403@progress.com> <4069B37B.4050102@progress.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Pau Aliagas wrote: > > >That's it! Strange that previous versions were installable. > > >I'll try the mknod trick or downloading a boot.iso from devel. > > > Please let me know how that goes. > > mknod does not work for me. Anaconda keeps on not seeing the disc. > > I'll try boot.iso tomorrow. I've tried several ways to overcome the "no IDE drives found" problem AKA bug #118941, to no success: 1. boot the fedora x86_64 DVD 2. mknod /dev/hda 3. boot with FC1 DVD and change to FC2T2 4. boot with vmlinuz + initrd from the FC2T2 DVD copied into /boot as explained in: www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/msg00445.html The previous four methods have already been discussed but didn't work for me. 4. boot with boot-iso from devel 5. boot with vmlinuz + initrd from the devel tree (same trick than before) In both cases the hard disk and the cdrom are detected by the kernel, but anaconda asks for a driver or driver disk. If I choose Hard Disk, in vt3 it says: devices[0] is TOSHIBA MK60221GAS - hda using ignore (not loaded) If I choose Local CDROM, in vt3 it says: devices[0] is PIONEER DVD-RW-DVR-K12RA - hdc using ignore (not loaded) Filed in bugzilla. Pau From mpeters at mac.com Wed Mar 31 08:34:16 2004 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:34:16 -0800 Subject: Problems with Core 2 Test 2 Message-ID: <1080722056.2273.18.camel@devel.yellowjacket.org> First let me state that C2T1 worked beautifully - no issues at all. Here's my hardware - Asus A7N8X Deluxe (Athlon 2700 XP+) w/ 256 MB PC 3200 IDE Bus 0 - Master: (/dev/hda) 4GB IDE drive (Quantum Fireball - originally from a 233 Rev A Beige G3 - it's my test install drive) IDE Bus 1 - Master: (/dev/hdc) Sony CD-RW CRX140E IDE Bus 1 - Slave : (/dev/hdd) Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1712 Generic floppy on /dev/fd0 Video: AOpen (Generic) NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] PCI Cards: Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D / AIC-7881U (no drives attached) Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model NC100 (tulip card) U.S. Robotics 56k PCI hardware modem Problems -=- The CD's (I tried CD1 and CD2) would not boot (md5sum of burned media checks out fine) I had deb sarge on my test drive - so I booted that and mounted the first CD to look for a boot floppy (like I had to use to boot Mandrake 10 C.D.) - found the boot.iso - burned that, that booted. First that hung at trying to load a USB mass storage driver. So I shut down, detached my digital camera card reader, and tried again. It got a little farther - but said it didn't have a driver for the media - and asked if I wanted to load a driver. I didn't see any nforce IDE drivers in the list - I'm assuming it's a bug. -=- At any rate - FC2T1 boots and installs on this hardware absolutely no problem. Even with the flash card reader attached. Since Mandrake Community Download 10 also has the same issue - I'm wondering if Fedora and Mandrake are using the same mastering software (I assume isolinux and friends) that happens to be broken with my CDROM drive ... (RH 8/Knoppix/FC2T1/MandrakeMove/Sarge all boot me no problem). Is there a boot floppy anywhere I can gran to try to boot the install CD 1 that way? Anyone else with similar hardware have a solution? From czar at czarc.net Wed Mar 31 08:37:14 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 03:37:14 -0500 Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298 does not work In-Reply-To: <406A41D2.4030001@mindspring.com> References: <406A41D2.4030001@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200403310337.14965.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 22:58, Richard Hally wrote: > when I ran up2date today it appeared to install kernel 2.6.4-1.298. > There were no errors reported. But it did not update grub as usual, it > did not put any files in /boot, and when I do rpm -q kernel it does not > show 2.6.4-1.298 (It shows the other kernels 253 etc) > [root at old1 boot]# rpm -q kernel > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.242 > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246 > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 OK, I see the same thing happening. I was working with development snapshots before FC2-T2 appears and this was happening then too so this is not something that just appeared with FC2-T2. I just do not remember but this may have happened with packages other than the kernel ... I just do not remember. However, it is happening now with the kernel and is repeatable. The first tip that there is a problem is that the progress bars do not show download completion and yet up2date is in the mode to proceed with the install. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119538 -- Gene From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Wed Mar 31 08:49:42 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:49:42 +0300 Subject: how to install without a cd-rom? Message-ID: <1080722981.5592.11.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> How to install FC2 on systems without CD-ROM? (e.g. from HDD or network) Please document how to use PXE boot in order to start install from network. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed Mar 31 08:59:47 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:59:47 +0200 Subject: Problems with Core 2 Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1080722056.2273.18.camel@devel.yellowjacket.org> References: <1080722056.2273.18.camel@devel.yellowjacket.org> Message-ID: <1080723587.1444.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mer 31/03/2004 ? 10:34, Michael A. Peters a ?crit : > [...] > Since Mandrake Community Download 10 also has the same issue - I'm > wondering if Fedora and Mandrake are using the same mastering software > (I assume isolinux and friends) that happens to be broken with my CDROM > drive ... (RH 8/Knoppix/FC2T1/MandrakeMove/Sarge all boot me no > problem). Check bugzilla for more feedback/information : http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119386 From roger at gwch.net Wed Mar 31 08:07:43 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:07:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: try to stay polite Message-ID: <39054.62.2.21.164.1080720463.squirrel@www.gwch.net> i successfully installed fc2-test2 yesterday - with a lot of pain in my stomach because of much flaming words in here. If just everybody tries to understand: - What testers need ;-) -> a installable test-distro -> a forum where they can wine out their problems -> a developper that listens to the whining tester and tries to bring it up working - What developpers need ;-) -> a new challenge ;-) , good nevers and a lot of tempo-tissues for the tester -> a tester, which said, how he could or even not install his distro, what kind of problems he saw -> good information for continuing devlopping and bug-haunting, so Fedora Core 2 gets the most used and best distro ever :-) ...just imagine, everybody here (hopefully) is a human being, a logical follow-up of personal attacks just blocks the opposite. I do this joking, i know that my "work" in here is not that much. Others spend perhaps their life for this. So, to everybody, don't be ignorant on ohters, even if you are frustrated like hell - just try to tell it polite. Or would you speak the same way, discussing this face to face?? This is just called RESPECT. Sorry, Roger btw. will try to deliver something productive if i find the time... From jim at rossberry.com Wed Mar 31 09:10:55 2004 From: jim at rossberry.com (Jim Wildman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:10:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: how to install without a cd-rom? In-Reply-To: <1080722981.5592.11.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1080722981.5592.11.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Marius Andreiana wrote: > How to install FC2 on systems without CD-ROM? (e.g. from HDD or network) > > Please document how to use PXE boot in order to start install from > network. Grab the vmlinuz and initrd from the boot.iso and put them in /boot with an appropriate stanza in grub.conf. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE jim at rossberry.com http://www.rossberry.com From jmatos at math.ist.utl.pt Wed Mar 31 09:50:18 2004 From: jmatos at math.ist.utl.pt (Joao Palhoto Matos) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:50:18 +0100 (WEST) Subject: failure mounting a PLEXTOR CD-R PX-320A Message-ID: Hello: Can someone offer some advice on this one before I dive into bugzilla or start swapping hardware? I have a PLEXTOR CD-R which seems to be correctly identified by the hardware browser as a PLEXTOR CD-R PX-320A which used to perform well but not frequently (I believe it worked with FC2T1). Currently mount attempts by root give [root at a213-22-64-242 root]# mount /dev/cdrom mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device /dev/cdrom is a symbolic link to /dev/hdc Line in /etc/fstab is /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 and was freshly included by kudzu. Failure happens both with kernel-2.6.4-1.281 and kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 This is a i386 FC2T2 system (I am not particularly fond of testing anaconda and burning CDs except for the occasional data backup so I got here all the way from RH9 using up2date / apt / yum and, hardly using CDs, not going through any kind of OS install and reading the list; I am mentioning this because lots of people on this list seem to be unaware of the possibility and become quite upset with failed CD boots for installation...). -- Jo?o Palhoto Matos http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~jmatos Departamento de Matem?tica Instituto Superior T?cnico Lisboa mailto:jmatos at math.ist.utl.pt From awol at home.nl Wed Mar 31 10:22:44 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:22:44 +0200 Subject: FC2T2: 2 questions Message-ID: <20040331102244.GA2284@home.nl> Installed FC2T2 on i8100 without problems, however: - The 'yenta_socket' not loading bug from FC2T1 is still there. I have to manually modprobe yenta_socket, restart pcmcia and /sbin/ifup eth0 to enable networking. Is this "a work in progress" or should I bugzilla it again? - I configured SElinux as 'permissive' during install in the hope that everything would work as in previous versions of RH/Fedora and I would just get warnings if things had changed. But, for example, I could not start the 'system-config-*' apps from the menu and had to run them as root in a terminal. Changing SElinux to 'disabled' fixed this. Is this a deliberate policy configuration or a bug? PS: Though I can envision some uses for SElinux in a home environment in general it seems to be massive overkill and adds a substantial level of complexity. How is grandma going to deal with this? From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Mar 31 10:20:22 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:20:22 +0100 Subject: Audio problem Message-ID: <1080728421.15393.9.camel@T7.linux> Hi, On my area when I use xmms and go to the preferences, I see I'm using ALSA. Click on configure, I can see 4 devices : default, two soundblasters (hw:0,0 and hw:0,3) as well as the internal Intel sound. I have the device set to default and the use software volume control box ticked. XMMS works fine on my area. If I go to the wifes area, xmms only shows the default device. I've set it to use ALSA with the volume control box ticked. The only device available is the default one. When I tried using kmix, it is showing up as there being no audio mixers at all. What files do I need to alter on /dev so that any user has access to them? Currently, /dev/mixer is set as crw------- 1 paul root 14, 0 /dev/mixer0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 ->mixer /dev/mixer1 crw 1 paul root 14,16 I imagine I need to set /dev/mixer & /dev/mixer1 to be chown root.root and chmod 777 on it. TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Wed Mar 31 16:17:29 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:17:29 -0500 Subject: Normal users cannot log in In-Reply-To: <1080702380.2313.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080702380.2313.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080749828.2372.1.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 22:06, Santiago Erquicia wrote: > I installed FC2 test2 from scratch and I cannot make any normal user log > in. I had to disable selinux in order to make it. > > This is the error log under "System log": > > Mar 30 02:28:58 localhost gdm[3414]: gdm_slave_session_start: Home > directory for pampa: '/home/pampa' does not exist! > Mar 30 02:28:58 localhost kernel: audit(1080635338.200:0): avc: denied > { getattr } for pid=3414 exe=/usr/bin/gdm-binary path=/home/pampa > dev=hda7 ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t > tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir > Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.237:0): avc: denied > { getattr } for pid=4651 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 > ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t > tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir > Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.240:0): avc: denied > { getattr } for pid=4652 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 > ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t > tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir > Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.245:0): avc: denied > { getattr } for pid=4655 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 > ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t > tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir > Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.246:0): avc: denied > { getattr } for pid=4656 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 > ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t > tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir > Mar 30 02:29:00 localhost kernel: audit(1080635340.270:0): avc: denied > { getattr } for pid=4658 exe=/bin/bash path=/home/pampa dev=hda7 > ino=80235 scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t > tcontext=root:object_r:home_root_t tclass=dir > > It says that the directory didn't exist while it was there. Asked if I > would like to use '/' as my home directory. If I say yes, the gdm log > in blocks without even showing any of the initialization status. If I > say no, it goes back to gdm. > > Anyone can see the same? > have you tried setfiles /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts /home From tmolina at cablespeed.com Wed Mar 31 11:12:18 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 06:12:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: selinux and mounted partitions Message-ID: I have my system set up for testing and easy swap between setups. I put the root partition on one ide drive (/dev/hda) and /home and /usr/local on a second ide drive (/dev/hdd). /dev/hda is in a removable caddy, allowing me to swap in a known stable setup or change between several test setups. How possible is it that I will run into trouble when I install an selinux-enabled setup, swap out to my stable caddy, and then swap back in the selinux setup? If so, what could I do to minimize the problems? Thanks. From vano.beridze at silkroad.ge Wed Mar 31 11:43:44 2004 From: vano.beridze at silkroad.ge (Vano Beridze) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:43:44 +0500 Subject: latarcyhreb-sun16 Message-ID: <406AAEF0.9080102@silkroad.ge> Hello Today I installed Fedora Core 2 Test 2 with minimal install. I wanted the possible minimal isntallation and started to remove packages that I thought was unnecessary for me. When I rebooted system told me: Setting default font (latarcyhreb-sun16): can't set font what package should I install? Thanks Vano From parrishmyers at yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 11:54:34 2004 From: parrishmyers at yahoo.com (Parrish M Myers) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 03:54:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: SELinux issue Message-ID: <20040331115434.77438.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Help! I have a habit of keeping a copy of Knoppix close by when installing Linux on my laptop. Primarily because the video card [ATI Radeon Mobility U1] will normally cause linux to go bonkers and I have to hard reboot]. Well, the installation went well enough, until the system tried to boot for the first time. It was OK though the first boot wizard and all, but then the screen went black! Assuming this was a video card issues again, I booted in knoppix and changed the inittab file to boot to runlevel 3. Now! I can't boot at all. SELinux claims there is an issue with the file and the system can't find an init file. How do I relabel, or whatever, this file so the system will accept the file again? I have even tried adding 'selinux=0' to the boot options and this doesn't work either. It seems my inittab file is just tainted. It's driving me crazy! Can someone help? Thanks. ===== "Parrish Myers" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. -- (Winston Churchill) From sehh at altered.com Wed Mar 31 12:05:26 2004 From: sehh at altered.com (Dimitrios) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:05:26 +0100 Subject: Problems with Core 2 Test 2 In-Reply-To: <1080722056.2273.18.camel@devel.yellowjacket.org> References: <1080722056.2273.18.camel@devel.yellowjacket.org> Message-ID: <20040331130526.7c6aa3ac@ekolaptis.> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:34:16 -0800 "Michael A. Peters" wrote: > Is there a boot floppy anywhere I can gran to try to boot the install CD > 1 that way? Anyone else with similar hardware have a solution? its a known problem that cd1 won't boot for some people, the solution is to boot FC1 CD, and while you are at the boot prompt, swap CDs! (replace fc1 cd with the fc2-test2 cd1 and hit enter to boot). pesonaly, i didn't have that problem, i'm using an Pioneer SCSI DVD drive, although i did have other problems, like booting freezes while iptables is been loaded. From alexl at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 12:05:37 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 31 Mar 2004 14:05:37 +0200 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: <1080719136.5312.45.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080687449.1221.134.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <1080718188.1444.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1080719136.5312.45.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> Message-ID: <1080734736.8108.319.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 09:45, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 09:29, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > Le mer 31/03/2004 ? 08:59, Panu Matilainen a ?crit : > > > A workaround has been pointed out, now get on with the testing and stop > > > whining. > > > > > > > The guy is disappointed by test2. Nobody is perfect. > > He will be happy with test3 if this mailing stays "tester-friendly". > > Then let's talk about "developer-friendly" as well ;-). Remember, > politeness works in both directions. Very much so. And if the senseless flaming doesn't stop I know I'll eventually unsubscribe to this list. I need to get real work done, not read flames from people who don't like to find bugs in test releases. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a deeply religious amnesiac librarian looking for a cure to the poison coursing through his veins. She's a vivacious hip-hop archaeologist from aristocratic European stock. They fight crime! From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 31 12:14:46 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:14:46 -0500 Subject: Today's dependency problems Message-ID: <200403310714.52183.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Resolving dependencies .Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimp-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gimp-print-plugin needs libgimp-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package xsane-gimp needs libgimp-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimpbase-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gimp-print-plugin needs libgimpbase-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package xsane-gimp needs libgimpbase-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimpcolor-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gimp-print-plugin needs libgimpcolor-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package xsane-gimp needs libgimpcolor-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimpmath-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gimp-print-plugin needs libgimpmath-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package xsane-gimp needs libgimpmath-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gimp-print-plugin needs libgimpmodule-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimpui-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gimp-print-plugin needs libgimpui-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package xsane-gimp needs libgimpui-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimpwidgets-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package gimp-print-plugin needs libgimpwidgets-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package xsane-gimp needs libgimpwidgets-1.3.so.26, this is not available. Package dvgrab needs libdv.so.2, this is not available. Package pwlib needs libdv.so.2, this is not available. Package gstreamer-plugins needs libdv.so.2, this is not available. Package mplayer needs libdv.so.2, this is not available. Package mplayer-mencoder needs libdv.so.2, this is not available. Package xemacs needs libRKC.so.1.2, this is not available. Package nvi-m17n-canna needs libcanna.so.1.2, this is not available. Package xemacs needs libcanna.so.1.2, this is not available. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAarY5MDqogpR5tkMRAur+AKCIU0OGaXtmyxPMTjw9rH3UYhKBDACfby/Z 5xBDgpQzVgzm6orgvOF9E4M= =SEp3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fedora-test-list at magra.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 31 12:19:11 2004 From: fedora-test-list at magra.demon.co.uk (Aled Hughes) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:19:11 +0100 Subject: Another person's experience installing FC2 test 2 In-Reply-To: <1080698472.1862.19.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <003201c4171a$60285120$0201a8c0@magra.demon.co.uk> I too had exactly the same problem with missing inittab and also various rc.* scripts. Initially I had this with a rawhide version just prior to test2, but after getting test2 and installing onto an empty existing reiserfs partition, it still happened. I had SELinux in 'warn' mode. When I reinstalled and told it to reformat the root partition as ext3 the init problem was resolved. So I concluded the problem is related to using reiserfs. My system still doesn't boot correctly (sticks at "updating etc/fstab"), but that's an unrelated issue I need to further investiage. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of shmuel siegel Sent: 31 March 2004 03:01 To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Another person's experience installing FC2 test 2 I am running a dual boot Win2k/Fedora system. Originally formatted by Win2k for the NTFS and Fat32 partitions and formatted by RH7/8/9 for the ext3 and linux swap partitions. I got the already known complaints during the install. I couldn't do a hard disk install because I didn't have a driver. The CDROM install warned about partition alignment problems. I didn't upgrade my FC1 system but rather installed FC2 to an existing ext3 partition which I bravely reformatted as reiserfs. The installation went smoothly and rapidly. Rebooting, I found to my annoyance, that the boot loader was overridden and now pointed to somewhere that didn't have my fc1 configuration, thus forcing me to do some grub.conf editting. But more seriously, with selinux turned on, I couldn't start. init did not have the proper permissions. Rebooting with selinux turned off, didn't help since there was no inittab. Copying the inittab from fc1 didn't help since there was no rc.d/rc. How should I proceed? -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Wed Mar 31 11:57:03 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:57:03 +0300 Subject: how to install without a cd-rom? In-Reply-To: References: <1080722981.5592.11.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1080734223.8056.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 12:10, Jim Wildman wrote: > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > > How to install FC2 on systems without CD-ROM? (e.g. from HDD or network) > > > > Please document how to use PXE boot in order to start install from > > network. > > Grab the vmlinuz and initrd from the boot.iso and put them in /boot with > an appropriate stanza in grub.conf. forgot to mention: blank hdd (or with ms windows) -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Mar 31 12:25:03 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:25:03 +0200 Subject: SELinux issue In-Reply-To: <20040331115434.77438.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040331115434.77438.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1080735903.4755.0.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Parrish, > How do I relabel, or whatever, this file so the system will accept the > file again? I have even tried adding 'selinux=0' to the boot options > and this doesn't work either. It seems my inittab file is just > tainted. It's driving me crazy! Can someone help? http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Mar 31 12:27:45 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:27:45 +0200 Subject: selinux and mounted partitions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080736065.4755.3.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Thomas, > How possible is it that I will run into trouble when I install an > selinux-enabled setup, swap out to my stable caddy, and then swap back in > the selinux setup? If so, what could I do to minimize the problems? Newly created files will not have selinux context information. See http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ . Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 31 12:53:58 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:53:58 -0400 Subject: Rhythmbox volume doesn't work In-Reply-To: <1080701958.2313.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080701958.2313.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080737638.29413.38.camel@zephyr> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 22:59, Santiago Erquicia wrote: > I submitted a bug about rhythmbox not changing the volume with the > volume controller inside the application. > > I have the last version updated as today and I installed the test2 > version from scratch. > > Does anyone has the same problem? Is Rhythmbox changing the *right* volume? Open up the mixer and Rhythmbox simultaneously and watch which level changes when you adjust the volume in RB. Make sure it's the one you expect (and the one that works). I know on my old soundcard, all the outputs were mislabelled in Mixer by default. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From wolters.liste at gmx.net Wed Mar 31 12:54:56 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:54:56 +0200 Subject: Updatet from Development tree - German "umlaute" are now missing in programs In-Reply-To: <200403310213.03224.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200403310213.03224.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200403311454.57036.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Roland Wolters wrote: > after an update from the development tree (something around 80 packages) > several minutes ago, the german "umlaute" are broken inside KDE. > That applys to all saved data, like E-Mails, program-interfaces, > menu-buttons, but not to the manpages! > Ok, reinstalled the kde and qt Packages from Version 1.91, and everything works fine again. Maybe someone could check if everything in the qt libs is broken? Roland From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Mar 31 13:04:50 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:04:50 +0200 Subject: FC2T2: 2 questions In-Reply-To: <20040331102244.GA2284@home.nl> References: <20040331102244.GA2284@home.nl> Message-ID: <1080738290.4755.5.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Alexander, > - I configured SElinux as 'permissive' during install in the hope > that everything would work as in previous versions of RH/Fedora > and I would just get warnings if things had changed. > But, for example, I could not start the 'system-config-*' apps > from the menu and had to run them as root in a terminal. > Changing SElinux to 'disabled' fixed this. > Is this a deliberate policy configuration or a bug? What does your system log tell you about this? Any selinux warnings? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From alan at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 13:07:58 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:07:58 -0500 Subject: Normal users cannot log in In-Reply-To: <1080749828.2372.1.camel@localhost> References: <1080702380.2313.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1080749828.2372.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20040331130758.GF26985@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 11:17:29AM -0500, mike wrote: > > would like to use '/' as my home directory. If I say yes, the gdm log > > in blocks without even showing any of the initialization status. If I > > say no, it goes back to gdm. > > Anyone can see the same? > > have you tried setfiles /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts /home Lots of fun when /home is on NFS From k at dicec.cl Wed Mar 31 13:26:19 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:26:19 -0400 Subject: wine problem In-Reply-To: References: <200403301644.46029.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1080739579.1979.2.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 23:46, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Mar 30, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > > > What do I need to do to workaround this? > > Err... Why are you posting this question here? Wine is not part of > any Fedora Core test release AFAIK. > > Last I tried to run wine on FC2test1, I had to set > LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.19, IIRC. > to run crossover office, and wine in FC1 i had to set in /etc/sysconfig/prelink > prelink=NO and started working, also some older apps started working too. > -- > Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ > Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} > Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From b-nordquist at bethel.edu Wed Mar 31 13:38:12 2004 From: b-nordquist at bethel.edu (Brent J. Nordquist) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:38:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: any chance for a quick respin of FC2t2? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Brent J. Nordquist wrote: > what about x86_64 -- does it have the CD boot problem, Turns out it doesn't; at least here I was able to boot right off FC2t2 x86_64 CD #1 and it's installing away. -- Brent J. Nordquist N0BJN Other contact information: http://kepler.acns.bethel.edu/~bjn/contact.html "No amount of hand waving can rescue SCO's complaint from its infirmities." -- Novell Reply Memo. in Support of Motion to Dismiss, March 19, 2004 From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 31 13:49:16 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 05:49:16 -0800 Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298 does not work In-Reply-To: <406A41D2.4030001@mindspring.com> References: <406A41D2.4030001@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20040331134916.GB22122@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:58:10PM -0500, Richard Hally wrote: > > when I ran up2date today it appeared to install kernel 2.6.4-1.298. > There were no errors reported. But it did not update grub as usual, it > did not put any files in /boot, and when I do rpm -q kernel it does not > show 2.6.4-1.298 (It shows the other kernels 253 etc) > [root at old1 boot]# rpm -q kernel I noticed this too. As my normal user I had done a "newrole -r sysadm" --> "su -" --> "up2date" in a text window. I found that up2date never really updated the rpm's that it had downloaded. Did I find log messages that the rpm files in /var/spool/up2date were not readable? avc: denied { read } for pid=3000 exe=/sbin/ldconfig path=/var/spool/up2date/zip-2.3-22.i386.rpm dev=hda2 ino=2098001 scontext=mitch:sysadm_r:ldconfig_t tcontext=mitch:object_r:var_spool_t tclass=file Then when logged in as root and "newrole -r sysadm_r" up2date did install most. I confess that at one point I got lazy and turned off enforcing...., and then finished .... up2date'd, reboot, make policy, make load, make relabel... In part it might be a umask and label issue. # ls -l /var/spool/up2date/zip* -rw------- ... But I do not know how ownership, umask and labels all play (yet). scontext=mitch:sysadm_r:ldconfig_ tcontext=mitch:object_r:var_spool_t .vs. system_u:object_r:var_spool_t Some of this may be historic because of the updates... now with the latest policy and my tunable.te changes. A number of transitions seem smoother Anyhow... # uname -a Linux xtl2 2.6.4-1.298 #1 Mon Mar 29 15:11:58 EST 2004 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From kfreem02 at comcast.net Wed Mar 31 13:53:44 2004 From: kfreem02 at comcast.net (Kevin Freeman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:53:44 -0600 Subject: Audio problem In-Reply-To: <1080728421.15393.9.camel@T7.linux> References: <1080728421.15393.9.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1080741224.17611.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 11:20 +0100, Paul wrote: > If I go to the wifes area, xmms only shows the default device. I've set > it to use ALSA with the volume control box ticked. The only device > available is the default one. > > When I tried using kmix, it is showing up as there being no audio mixers > at all. > > What files do I need to alter on /dev so that any user has access to > them? > > Currently, /dev/mixer is set as crw------- 1 paul root 14, 0 > /dev/mixer0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 ->mixer > /dev/mixer1 crw 1 paul root 14,16 > > I imagine I need to set /dev/mixer & /dev/mixer1 to be chown root.root > and chmod 777 on it. It looks like you are on the right track. The permanent solution I use is to create a new group "sound", and add any users needing access to audio hardware to the new group. Then, in /etc/security/console.perms, edit sound class permissions as follows: 0660 0660 root.sound This will allow all users in group "sound" to access all audio devices (as defined in the upper portion of /etc/security/console.perms) on each subsequent reboot. Kevin Freeman From dlt at mebtel.net Wed Mar 31 13:54:08 2004 From: dlt at mebtel.net (Derek Tattersall) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:54:08 -0500 Subject: SELinux issue In-Reply-To: <1080735903.4755.0.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <20040331115434.77438.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> <1080735903.4755.0.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040331135408.GA45451@mebtel.net> * Leonard den Ottolander (leonard at den.ottolander.nl) [040331 08:39]: > From: Leonard den Ottolander > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-Id: <1080735903.4755.0.camel at athlon.localdomain> > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:25:03 +0200 > Subject: Re: SELinux issue > Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > > Hello Parrish, > > > How do I relabel, or whatever, this file so the system will accept the > > file again? I have even tried adding 'selinux=0' to the boot options > > and this doesn't work either. It seems my inittab file is just > > tainted. It's driving me crazy! Can someone help? > > http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ > > Leonard. > > -- > mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > I knew if I lurked long enough somebody would post addresses of really helpful information. Now to try to understand SELinux, and the relationships of the various configuration files to each other and to the types of access. -- Derek Tattersall | Abstainer, n.: A weak person who yields to the | temptation of denying himself a pleasure. -- dlt at mebtel.net | Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" | dlt666 at yahoo.com | From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Mar 31 13:55:02 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:55:02 +0200 Subject: Today's dependency problems In-Reply-To: <200403310714.52183.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200403310714.52183.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1080741302.4755.8.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Neal, > Resolving dependencies > .Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimp-1.3.so.26, this is not available. As has been discussed before mirrors might be lagging a little. As you do not state which site you use I assume your mirror does. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Mar 31 14:10:43 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:10:43 +0200 Subject: SELinux issue In-Reply-To: <20040331135408.GA45451@mebtel.net> References: <20040331115434.77438.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> <1080735903.4755.0.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040331135408.GA45451@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <1080742243.4755.11.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Derek, > > http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ > I knew if I lurked long enough somebody would post addresses of really > helpful information. Now to try to understand SELinux, and the > relationships of the various configuration files to each other and to > the types of access. It helps to subscribe to the fedora-announce-list. All this info delivered straight into your mailbox ;-) . Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Mar 31 14:22:56 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:22:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: SELinux issue In-Reply-To: <20040331135408.GA45451@mebtel.net> References: <20040331115434.77438.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> <1080735903.4755.0.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040331135408.GA45451@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <3979.12.29.16.103.1080742976.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Derek Tattersall said: [snip] >> >> http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ [snip] >> > I knew if I lurked long enough somebody would post addresses of really > helpful information. Now to try to understand SELinux, and the > relationships of the various configuration files to each other and to > the types of access. Umm... it is part of the release notes. -- William Hooper From smearp at mac.com Wed Mar 31 14:24:32 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 06:24:32 -0800 Subject: FC2T2 Evolution Problems In-Reply-To: <1080665480.3017.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1080665080.2057.11.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> <1080665480.3017.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <20ECB174-831F-11D8-8F3E-000393C34F68@mac.com> This bug has been around since FC2 Test 1, and I have been waiting to see if it got fixed in test 2. (no luck there...) You guys hit the problem on the head. gnome-default-applications-properties is set up out of the box (off of the ISO?) with epiphany as the default browser. Unfortunately, it is not installed by default. As mentioned below, you can fix the problem of not being able to click on web links in an email by: 1) installing epiphany - yum install epiphany or 2) opening up gnome-default-applications-properties and changing epiphany %s to mozilla %s (or any other browser that is actually installed on the computer. Filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119569 so feel free to hop on! -Sean :) On Mar 30, 2004, at 8:51 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 10:44, Will Backman wrote: >> Clicking on a link in e-mail body does not launch browser, nor does >> right-click "launch in browser". Looks like epiphany %s is the >> deafult, >> although it seems to be not installed on a Personal Workstation >> install. > > Yep, and got it fixed. Mozilla is not selected as the default browser > in file types and programs, even if epiphany or whatever isn't even > installed. I think that is a bug. But you have to go to > preferences/file types and programs and edit internet/http and https > and > add ftp if you want the links to work. From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 14:25:55 2004 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:25:55 -0500 Subject: selinux and mounted partitions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <406AD4F3.4010504@redhat.com> Thomas Molina wrote: >I have my system set up for testing and easy swap between setups. I put >the root partition on one ide drive (/dev/hda) and /home and /usr/local on >a second ide drive (/dev/hdd). /dev/hda is in a removable caddy, allowing >me to swap in a known stable setup or change between several test setups. > >How possible is it that I will run into trouble when I install an >selinux-enabled setup, swap out to my stable caddy, and then swap back in >the selinux setup? If so, what could I do to minimize the problems? > >Thanks. > > You want to setup your "selinux" drive to use context mounts for your homedir. Something like context=system_u:object_r:user_home_t So when it gets mounted you would have access to it. /usr/local you would probably mount context=system_u:object_r:usr_t ??? > > > From kincera at kintelwireless.com Wed Mar 31 14:30:34 2004 From: kincera at kintelwireless.com (Aaron Kincer) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:30:34 -0500 Subject: System and network response slower In-Reply-To: <20040331121516.ECB3E73A6D@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040331121516.ECB3E73A6D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <406AD60A.80801@kintelwireless.com> After the following package updates (ripped straight from the update log), my system is slower and network response is almost unusable. In other words, anything using the Internet is miserable now including e-mail. [Tue Mar 30 12:36:44 2004] up2date installing packages: ['kernel-2.6.4-1.298', 'kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.126'] [Tue Mar 30 12:56:46 2004] up2date installing packages: ['SDL-1.2.7-2.1', 'SDL_mixer-1.2.5-1', 'alsa-lib-1.0.3a-1'] [Tue Mar 30 13:07:50 2004] up2date installing packages: ['bash-2.05b-38', 'fedora-release-1.91-6'] How do you roll back to older packages? I can't hardly use my computer now. Also worthy of note is booting to older kernel versions DOES NOT fix the problem. From cmadams at hiwaay.net Wed Mar 31 14:43:45 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:43:45 -0600 Subject: FC2T2 DVD - boots, but no media check In-Reply-To: <1080706214.4711.24.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> References: <20040330214313.GA1476421@hiwaay.net> <1080706214.4711.24.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040331144345.GA832062@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Chris Kloiber said: > That depends on how implantisomd5 was called (assuming it was caled at > all) during the mastering of the DVD iso. Boot the DVD with 'linux > mediacheck' and see if it passes. If if does, it's still a 'good' disk. > If not, then either implantisomd5 was not used when the DVD was created, > or you have a 'bad' disk. I'll check it when I get home. Looking at the ISO image, it does have the MD5 string, so implantisomd5 was run. > I typically rsync the files to my local > machine (minus the SRPMS to save bandwidth) then create my DVD iso > locally using my script, so I am not sure what the distribution DVD's > default behavior is. It should probably be similar to the downloadable > CD isos. I downloaded all the CDs, ran my script to build a DVD image, and then rsynced that to get the "official" DVD image. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Wed Mar 31 14:44:49 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:44:49 +0200 Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298-rpm does not work - SElinux? Message-ID: <406AD961.8060905@filmakademie.de> Hi, I recently installed FC2T2 on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 2100 from DVD. That worked fine. Today I downloaded the kernel-2.6.4-1.298-rpm an did an rpm -ivh - that failed: [root at dilbert root]# rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.4-1.298.i686.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] Fehler: setexeccon(root:staff_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context "root:staff_r:s taff_t": Das Argument ist ung?ltig Fehler: %pre(kernel-2.6.4-1.298) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 Fehler: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping kernel-2.6.4-1.298 setexeccon concernes selinux, but but whats wrong...? cu... ...G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Wed Mar 31 14:54:00 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:54:00 -0500 Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298-rpm does not work - SElinux? In-Reply-To: <406AD961.8060905@filmakademie.de> References: <406AD961.8060905@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <1080744840.22514.50.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 09:44, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > Hi, > > I recently installed FC2T2 on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 2100 from DVD. > That worked fine. > > Today I downloaded the kernel-2.6.4-1.298-rpm an did an rpm -ivh - that > failed: > > [root at dilbert root]# rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.4-1.298.i686.rpm > Preparing... ########################################### > [100%] > Fehler: setexeccon(root:staff_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context > "root:staff_r:s taff_t": Das Argument ist ung?ltig > Fehler: %pre(kernel-2.6.4-1.298) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 > Fehler: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping kernel-2.6.4-1.298 > > > setexeccon concernes selinux, but but whats wrong...? By default, unless you enable unlimitedUsers in policy/tunable.te and reload your policy, you have to run yum from sysadm_r:sysadm_t, not staff_r:staff_t. You can use 'su' or 'newrole' to switch to sysadm_r, or you can make it the default by changing /etc/security/default_contexts. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From jmorris at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 14:56:53 2004 From: jmorris at redhat.com (James Morris) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:56:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298-rpm does not work - SElinux? In-Reply-To: <406AD961.8060905@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > Today I downloaded the kernel-2.6.4-1.298-rpm an did an rpm -ivh - that > failed: > > [root at dilbert root]# rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.4-1.298.i686.rpm > Preparing... ########################################### > [100%] > Fehler: setexeccon(root:staff_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context > "root:staff_r:s taff_t": Das Argument ist ung?ltig > Fehler: %pre(kernel-2.6.4-1.298) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 > Fehler: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping kernel-2.6.4-1.298 > > > setexeccon concernes selinux, but but whats wrong...? This should normally work, but there's a bug in the current policy. You need to be sysadm_r for this to work at the moment, e.g.: # newrole -r sysadm_r A new policy should be available in rawhide soon (1.9.1-4) which fixes this. - James -- James Morris From awol at home.nl Wed Mar 31 15:09:30 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:09:30 +0200 Subject: FC2T2: 2 questions In-Reply-To: <1080738290.4755.5.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <20040331102244.GA2284@home.nl> <1080738290.4755.5.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040331150930.GA2168@home.nl> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 03:04:50PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > > - I configured SElinux as 'permissive' during install in the hope > > that everything would work as in previous versions of RH/Fedora > > and I would just get warnings if things had changed. > > But, for example, I could not start the 'system-config-*' apps > > from the menu and had to run them as root in a terminal. > > Changing SElinux to 'disabled' fixed this. > > Is this a deliberate policy configuration or a bug? > What does your system log tell you about this? Any selinux warnings? If the numerous 'audit: avc: denied' entries are selinus warnings, yes. I have whole colonies, for example: kernel: audit(1080722514.102:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=1842 exe=/bin/su name=root dev=hda2 ino=294913 scontext=user_u:user_r:user_su_t tcontext=root:object_r:staff_home_dir_t tclass=dir I don't have the energy to delve into this mess in any detail. I have skimmed all the selinux faq's and intro's but non of them has a really clear and systematic overview of selinux and it's usefulness for a home pc connected to the internet, a systematic overview of the config files, what should be configured and to what purpose. Alexander From serquicia at argentina.com Wed Mar 31 15:00:47 2004 From: serquicia at argentina.com (Santiago Erquicia) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:00:47 -0600 Subject: Rhythmbox volume doesn't work In-Reply-To: <1080737638.29413.38.camel@zephyr> References: <1080701958.2313.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1080737638.29413.38.camel@zephyr> Message-ID: <1080745247.1821.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 06:53, Ben Steeves wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 22:59, Santiago Erquicia wrote: > > I submitted a bug about rhythmbox not changing the volume with the > > volume controller inside the application. > > > > I have the last version updated as today and I installed the test2 > > version from scratch. > > > > Does anyone has the same problem? > > Is Rhythmbox changing the *right* volume? Open up the mixer and > Rhythmbox simultaneously and watch which level changes when you adjust > the volume in RB. Make sure it's the one you expect (and the one that > works). I know on my old soundcard, all the outputs were mislabelled in > Mixer by default. > I don't know what happened but now it's working ;-) Thanks anyway From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Wed Mar 31 15:02:18 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:02:18 +0200 Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298-rpm does not work - SElinux? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <406ADD7A.8000102@filmakademie.de> Thanks, I see, there is something new to get familiar with: SELinux :-) I'll have a look at the FAQ and wait for the bugfix ;-) Thanks! Regards G?tz James Morris wrote: > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > > >>Today I downloaded the kernel-2.6.4-1.298-rpm an did an rpm -ivh - that >>failed: >> >>[root at dilbert root]# rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.4-1.298.i686.rpm >>Preparing... ########################################### >>[100%] >>Fehler: setexeccon(root:staff_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context >>"root:staff_r:s taff_t": Das Argument ist ung?ltig >>Fehler: %pre(kernel-2.6.4-1.298) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 >>Fehler: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping kernel-2.6.4-1.298 >> >> >>setexeccon concernes selinux, but but whats wrong...? > > > This should normally work, but there's a bug in the current policy. You > need to be sysadm_r for this to work at the moment, e.g.: > > # newrole -r sysadm_r > > A new policy should be available in rawhide soon (1.9.1-4) which fixes > this. > > > - James -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Wed Mar 31 15:02:37 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:02:37 +0300 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <200403310059.16223.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <200403311802.37662.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Alexandre Oliva kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika keskiviikko, 31. maaliskuuta 2004 06:43): > > I couldn't boot from FC2test2 CD1, but I could boot with > > boot.iso from that same CD and install over network. > > Did you do anything different when you burned boot.iso? I used a different brand of CD-RW (Maxell instead of Sony) and used blank=all instead of blank=fast. > Did > you actually check that your CD1 was burned correctly Yes, I could run "linux mediacheck" from the boot.iso disc. All the CDs passed the test, but the installer claimed it can't find a CD drive when I tried to install from local CD-ROM. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From scopeguy at postman.net Wed Mar 31 15:14:40 2004 From: scopeguy at postman.net (Mike) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 06:14:40 -0900 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: <200403311802.37662.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <200403310059.16223.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> <200403311802.37662.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <20040331150931.M73702@postman.net> Markku, On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:02:37 +0300, Markku Kolkka wrote > I used a different brand of CD-RW (Maxell instead of Sony) and > used blank=all instead of blank=fast. > This may not apply in your case, but some drives (like mine!) cannot boot from a CD-RW, only CD-Rs. Unless you know yours can, you might try burning a CD-R instead. Mike S -- "Better to light a candle than to curse the damn darkness" - Willow Rosenberg Free Internet WebMail (http://www.postman.net/) Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org/) From edoardo at supanet.com Wed Mar 31 15:14:14 2004 From: edoardo at supanet.com (Edoardo Comar) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:14:14 +0100 Subject: FC2T2 - can't login as normal user - home directory does not exist message (wrong) Message-ID: <406AE046.7010008@supanet.com> After an install with SELinux enabled logged into kde as root, and added a couple of normal user with the add user graphical tool, specifying UID manually and creating their unique group names as the user as well. I had their userdirs created and I could also get into them by executing su - myuser (answering no to the security context question) but if I try to login from the kdm prompt the login fails and the error message is that the /home/myuser directory does not exist I can only log in a failsafe session using / as temp home Edoardo From mgalvin at nycap.rr.com Wed Mar 31 15:18:28 2004 From: mgalvin at nycap.rr.com (mgalvin at nycap.rr.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:18:28 -0500 Subject: Little Lang. Windows Everywhere Message-ID: <2ba54d2b46aa.2b46aa2ba54d@nyroc.rr.com> When starting various apps, these little windows saying "English" keep popping up all over. When I quit the app, the word "english" goes away but these little windows stay open all over and cluter up the screen. One app this happens in is OO Writer. It also happens when I open KDE apps while in GNOME. From mgalvin at nycap.rr.com Wed Mar 31 15:22:35 2004 From: mgalvin at nycap.rr.com (mgalvin at nycap.rr.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:22:35 -0500 Subject: X/GNOME Crashes the whole system Message-ID: <2b829e2b97e2.2b97e22b829e@nyroc.rr.com> When I log out/restart via GNOME, it seems durning the process of X/GNOME shuting down, the entire system crashes and I have to hard reboot. This also occurs when booting up since the gui startup screen starts and stops x a few times. I have to boot in init 3. I am using a Dell Precision 360 with nVidia Quadro NVS AGP 8x video card and I do have the NVIDIA video driver installed(it works on other systems with the 2.6.x kernel) From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 31 15:25:37 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:25:37 -0800 Subject: latarcyhreb-sun16 In-Reply-To: <406AAEF0.9080102@silkroad.ge> References: <406AAEF0.9080102@silkroad.ge> Message-ID: <20040331152537.GA23121@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 04:43:44PM +0500, Vano Beridze wrote: > > Today I installed Fedora Core 2 Test 2 with minimal install. > > I wanted the possible minimal isntallation and started to remove > packages that I thought was unnecessary for me. When I rebooted system > told me: > > Setting default font (latarcyhreb-sun16): can't set font > > what package should I install? # locate sun16 /lib/kbd/consolefonts/cyr-sun16.psfu.gz /lib/kbd/consolefonts/latarcyrheb-sun16.psfu.gz /lib/kbd/consolefonts/lat0-sun16.psfu.gz /lib/kbd/consolefonts/lat2-sun16.psfu.gz # rpm -q --whatprovides /lib/kbd/consolefonts/latarcyrheb-sun16.psfu.gz kbd-1.12-1 So it looks like "kbd". -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From serquicia at argentina.com Wed Mar 31 15:27:46 2004 From: serquicia at argentina.com (Santiago Erquicia) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:27:46 -0600 Subject: FC2T2 - can't login as normal user - home directory does not exist message (wrong) In-Reply-To: <406AE046.7010008@supanet.com> References: <406AE046.7010008@supanet.com> Message-ID: <1080746866.1821.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 09:14, Edoardo Comar wrote: > After an install with SELinux enabled > logged into kde as root, and added a couple of normal user with the add > user graphical tool, specifying UID manually and creating their unique > group names as the user as well. > > I had their userdirs created and I could also get into them by executing > su - myuser > (answering no to the security context question) > > but if I try to login from the kdm prompt > the login fails and the error message is that the /home/myuser directory > does not exist > I can only log in a failsafe session using / as temp home > > Edoardo > I have the same problem. I also have some errors due to selinux. At the selinux mailing list they recommended me: " have you tried setfiles /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts /home " I haven't yet, but you should ;-) From serquicia at argentina.com Wed Mar 31 15:31:59 2004 From: serquicia at argentina.com (Santiago Erquicia) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:31:59 -0600 Subject: Normal users cannot log in In-Reply-To: <1080749828.2372.1.camel@localhost> References: <1080702380.2313.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1080749828.2372.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1080747119.1821.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> > > It says that the directory didn't exist while it was there. Asked if I > > would like to use '/' as my home directory. If I say yes, the gdm log > > in blocks without even showing any of the initialization status. If I > > say no, it goes back to gdm. > > > > Anyone can see the same? > > > > have you tried setfiles /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts /home > with the latest updates applied, it says: [root at localhost santiago]# /usr/sbin/setfiles /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts /home /usr/sbin/setfiles: read 1346 specifications /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:default_t on line number 39 /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:root_t on line number 44 /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:home_root_t on line number 53 /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:home_root_t on line number 54 /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t on line number 55 /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t on line number 56 /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_home_t on line number 57 /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_home_t on line number 58 /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:mnt_t on line number 62 /usr/sbin/setfiles: invalid context system_u:object_r:var_t on line number 67 Exiting after 10 errors. I didn't reboot last time after the updates and I think there was one package about security or policy. I'll try later when I come back. From czar at czarc.net Wed Mar 31 15:39:09 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:39:09 -0500 Subject: warning about up2date Message-ID: <200403311039.09522.czar@czarc.net> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119538 After having the up2date problem with the kernel, I attempted to do some additional installs. I tried to install all outstanding updates but up2date chocked on that (backtrace). So I tried something small -- a2ps, anaconda, anaconda-runtime and the four amanda-* packages. Everthing downloaded and the install looked fine (at first) but the install progress bar did not complete even if the finish message appeared. Clicked once to get the list of installed packages and up2date said everything was installed. I then checked with rpm queries ... amanada was not only not updated but it was now removed from the system. Caution ... do not believe up2date processing ... be sure to manually check all up2dating using up2date. -- Gene From mgalvin at nycap.rr.com Wed Mar 31 15:39:09 2004 From: mgalvin at nycap.rr.com (mgalvin at nycap.rr.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:39:09 -0500 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue Message-ID: <2b69722b91a5.2b91a52b6972@nyroc.rr.com> Hi All, I know this was an issue in FC1 but did not find anything on the list about it for FC2T2. During installation clicking "Play Test Sound" the first time does not work. I have to click it twice. The second time the sound works. But this seems to be reset on every reboot, the alsa mixer settings seem to not be being saved correctly. To get sound working again after a reboot I have been able to use the System Settings -> Soundcard Detection Tool. Sometimes it works on the first try, sometimes on the second try. ------------------------- M Galvin Lead Programmer Simplified Complexity http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Mar 31 15:49:06 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:49:06 -0600 Subject: X/GNOME Crashes the whole system In-Reply-To: <2b829e2b97e2.2b97e22b829e@nyroc.rr.com> References: <2b829e2b97e2.2b97e22b829e@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <1080748146.1661.6.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 09:22, mgalvin at nycap.rr.com wrote: > When I log out/restart via GNOME, it seems durning the process of X/GNOME shuting down, the entire system crashes and I have to hard reboot. This also occurs when booting up since the gui startup screen starts and stops x a few times. I have to boot in init 3. I am using a Dell Precision 360 with nVidia Quadro NVS AGP 8x video card and I do have the NVIDIA video driver installed(it works on other systems with the 2.6.x kernel) I have experienced the X starting/stopping myself. Think I have seen it 2-3 times now on various issues, the last was just doing a reboot from the logout menu in gnome. Mine is a ATI 9000 Pro w/KDS monitor. Thinking this may be something non-hardware related though. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From list at inksystems.net Wed Mar 31 15:49:24 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor Kolomiyets) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:49:24 +0100 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue References: <2b69722b91a5.2b91a52b6972@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <000601c41737$bddddb10$0a6fa8c0@inksystems.net> It works on first try as well. I assume that you're using KDE as i experience the same behaviour on my installation. KDE uses sound system exclusively and releases it only after 60 sec (by default or depending on your settings). So if you click on "Play Test Sound" and leave it for a while sound comes back eventually. However, i don't think it is has something to do with the mixer settings. I have an impression that my ALSA does not work at all and using this woodoo sequence actually creates the sound through something else. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue > Hi All, > > I know this was an issue in FC1 but did not find anything on the list about it for FC2T2. > > During installation clicking "Play Test Sound" the first time does not work. I have to click it twice. The second time the sound works. But this seems to be reset on every reboot, the alsa mixer settings seem to not be being saved correctly. To get sound working again after a reboot I have been able to use the System Settings -> Soundcard Detection Tool. Sometimes it works on the first try, sometimes on the second try. > > ------------------------- > M Galvin > Lead Programmer > Simplified Complexity > http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From zumbi3 at free.fr Wed Mar 31 15:50:36 2004 From: zumbi3 at free.fr (Michael Opdenacker) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:50:36 +0200 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue In-Reply-To: <2b69722b91a5.2b91a52b6972@nyroc.rr.com> References: <2b69722b91a5.2b91a52b6972@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <406AE8CC.9010207@free.fr> Hello, I confirm that I'm facing exactly the same issue. Could you file a report in bugzilla about this, please? Cheers, Michael. >Hi All, > > I know this was an issue in FC1 but did not find anything on the list about it for FC2T2. > > During installation clicking "Play Test Sound" the first time does not work. I have to click it twice. The second time the sound works. But this seems to be reset on every reboot, the alsa mixer settings seem to not be being saved correctly. To get sound working again after a reboot I have been able to use the System Settings -> Soundcard Detection Tool. Sometimes it works on the first try, sometimes on the second try. > >------------------------- >M Galvin >Lead Programmer >Simplified Complexity >http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com > > > > -- Michael Opdenacker http://opdenacker.org/ From tjb at unh.edu Wed Mar 31 15:50:48 2004 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:50:48 -0500 Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298 does not work In-Reply-To: <406A41D2.4030001@mindspring.com> References: <406A41D2.4030001@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <1080748248.27486.8.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 22:58, Richard Hally wrote: > when I ran up2date today it appeared to install kernel 2.6.4-1.298. > There were no errors reported. But it did not update grub as usual, it > did not put any files in /boot, and when I do rpm -q kernel it does not > show 2.6.4-1.298 (It shows the other kernels 253 etc) > [root at old1 boot]# rpm -q kernel > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.242 > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246 > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 > I had similar problems. Clean install of test2 with selinux in enforcing mode followed by a yum update. Many of the postinstall scripts reported failures and after a reboot (to boot the new kernel that didn't get installed) lots of things were very broken. Permissions on directories in /var were all messed up (as root I couldn't cd to /var/log to try to figure out what was going). So I did a clean install of test2 again, setting selinux to warn only, and things are much happier. It seems like the default policy of selinux kept many files from being updated properly. Let me know if you file a bug report so I can add to it. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From mgalvin at nycap.rr.com Wed Mar 31 15:53:51 2004 From: mgalvin at nycap.rr.com (mgalvin at nycap.rr.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:53:51 -0500 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue Message-ID: <292578298ef6.298ef6292578@nyroc.rr.com> I am actually using GNOME. I have NOT even started KDE at all yet. ------------------------- M Galvin Lead Programmer Simplified Complexity http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Igor Kolomiyets Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:49 am Subject: Re: Intel i8x0 audio issue > It works on first try as well. I assume that you're using KDE as i > experience the same behaviour on my installation. KDE uses sound > systemexclusively and releases it only after 60 sec (by default or > depending on > your settings). So if you click on "Play Test Sound" and leave it > for a > while sound comes back eventually. > However, i don't think it is has something to do with the mixer > settings. I > have an impression that my ALSA does not work at all and using > this woodoo > sequence actually creates the sound through something else. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:39 PM > Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue > > > > Hi All, > > > > I know this was an issue in FC1 but did not find anything on > the list > about it for FC2T2. > > > > During installation clicking "Play Test Sound" the first > time does not > work. I have to click it twice. The second time the sound works. > But this > seems to be reset on every reboot, the alsa mixer settings seem to > not be > being saved correctly. To get sound working again after a reboot I > have been > able to use the System Settings -> Soundcard Detection Tool. > Sometimes it > works on the first try, sometimes on the second try. > > > > ------------------------- > > M Galvin > > Lead Programmer > > Simplified Complexity > > http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From czar at czarc.net Wed Mar 31 15:53:39 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:53:39 -0500 Subject: warning about up2date In-Reply-To: <200403311039.09522.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403311039.09522.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <200403311053.39404.czar@czarc.net> On Wednesday 31 March 2004 10:39, Gene C. wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119538 > > After having the up2date problem with the kernel, I attempted to do some > additional installs. I tried to install all outstanding updates but > up2date chocked on that (backtrace). So I tried something small -- a2ps, > anaconda, anaconda-runtime and the four amanda-* packages. Everthing > downloaded and the install looked fine (at first) but the install progress > bar did not complete even if the finish message appeared. Clicked once to > get the list of installed packages and up2date said everything was > installed. I then checked with rpm queries ... amanada was not only not > updated but it was now removed from the system. > > Caution ... do not believe up2date processing ... be sure to manually check > all up2dating using up2date. More info ... it looks like this may be related to selinux. I downloaded and attempted to manually install and got selinux-related errors. -- Gene From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Mar 31 15:56:43 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:56:43 +0200 Subject: Today's dependency problems In-Reply-To: <1080741302.4755.8.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <200403310714.52183.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1080741302.4755.8.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1080748602.4755.39.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Neal, I wrote: > > Resolving dependencies > > .Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimp-1.3.so.26, this is not available. > > As has been discussed before mirrors might be lagging a little. As you > do not state which site you use I assume your mirror does. Hm. libgimp-1.3.so.26 is provided by gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm that has been available since March 18th. Not sure why it doesn't show up for you. Knowing which mirror you use could help in that respect. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From maxer1 at xmission.com Wed Mar 31 15:59:20 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:59:20 -0700 Subject: kernel-2.6.4-1.298 fails on IEEE1394 Message-ID: <406AEAD8.2000800@xmission.com> IEEE1394 fails on the make install after building custom kernel. It was setup in .config just fine. Oh well, put another one up! :) RaXeT From joel at stirlingbridge.com Wed Mar 31 16:00:46 2004 From: joel at stirlingbridge.com (Joel Grimes) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:00:46 -0800 Subject: getting out of x Message-ID: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> Noob question here - and forgive me for ranting, but it's just KILLING me! How do I get the hell out of X? I've become so frustrated with that damned automatic-restart-x thing that i wanted to resort to violence. When, out of desparation, I hit ctrl-alt-backspace it keeps reloading it. When I do that you'd think it would GET THE POINT THAT I WANT OUT! (arg!.... I feel better now) From joel at stirlingbridge.com Wed Mar 31 16:02:00 2004 From: joel at stirlingbridge.com (Joel Grimes) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:02:00 -0800 Subject: warning about up2date In-Reply-To: <200403311039.09522.czar@czarc.net> References: <200403311039.09522.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <406AEB78.20207@stirlingbridge.com> Getting exactly this same behavior - including the Kernel update problem in the bug report. Gene C. wrote: >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119538 > >After having the up2date problem with the kernel, I attempted to do some >additional installs. I tried to install all outstanding updates but up2date >chocked on that (backtrace). So I tried something small -- a2ps, anaconda, >anaconda-runtime and the four amanda-* packages. Everthing downloaded and >the install looked fine (at first) but the install progress bar did not >complete even if the finish message appeared. Clicked once to get the list >of installed packages and up2date said everything was installed. I then >checked with rpm queries ... amanada was not only not updated but it was now >removed from the system. > >Caution ... do not believe up2date processing ... be sure to manually check >all up2dating using up2date. > > Message I was about to send, but you beat me to it: ###################################### I ran up2date on a clean Test 2 install. There's like 100 updates, so i try to take them 10 or so at a time. After downloading, it goes to install, but in some cases, it'll skip one of the downloaded updates - leaving the progress bar (bottom one) some distance from the end and yet it stops and enables the FINISH button. Which i click. Then run it again. Second time around, one of the updates i just downloaded is still available for download. So i select it again to give it another shot, but it never gets removed from the AVAILABLE list. ####################################### From whb at ceimaine.org Wed Mar 31 16:01:20 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:01:20 -0500 Subject: getting out of x In-Reply-To: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> References: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> Message-ID: <1080748880.1890.28.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> As root, telinit 3 On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 11:00, Joel Grimes wrote: > Noob question here - and forgive me for ranting, but it's just KILLING me! > > How do I get the hell out of X? I've become so frustrated with that > damned automatic-restart-x thing that i wanted to resort to violence. > When, out of desparation, I hit ctrl-alt-backspace it keeps reloading > it. When I do that you'd think it would GET THE POINT THAT I WANT OUT! > (arg!.... I feel better now) > > > From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Wed Mar 31 16:02:05 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:02:05 +0200 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue In-Reply-To: <2b69722b91a5.2b91a52b6972@nyroc.rr.com> References: <2b69722b91a5.2b91a52b6972@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040331180205.44123c21.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:39:09 -0500, mgalvin at nycap.rr.com wrote: > I know this was an issue in FC1 but did not find anything on the list about it for FC2T2. > > During installation clicking "Play Test Sound" the first time does not work. I have to click it twice. The second time the sound works. But this seems to be reset on every reboot, the alsa mixer settings seem to not be being saved correctly. To get sound working again after a reboot I have been able to use the System Settings -> Soundcard Detection Tool. Sometimes it works on the first try, sometimes on the second try. > Not related to i8x0, but I've submitted a bug report about lack of "mixer settings restore" support earlier today: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/119574 From steve at rueb.com Wed Mar 31 16:03:35 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:03:35 -0600 Subject: Cipe? Message-ID: <406AEBD7.60204@rueb.com> I have need to establish cipe connection from a current rawhide box to a RH9 box. Cipe is still an option under system-config-network and cipe-1.4.5-20 is installed from the rawhide repository. However I see no signs of the cipe kernel modules anywhere and when I try to activate the connection with "ifup cipcb0" I get "Cannot find device". Is this supposed to work? Thanks, Steve From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 16:03:19 2004 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:03:19 -0500 Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298 does not work In-Reply-To: <1080748248.27486.8.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <406A41D2.4030001@mindspring.com> <1080748248.27486.8.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <406AEBC7.4080903@redhat.com> Thomas J. Baker wrote: >On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 22:58, Richard Hally wrote: > > >>when I ran up2date today it appeared to install kernel 2.6.4-1.298. >>There were no errors reported. But it did not update grub as usual, it >>did not put any files in /boot, and when I do rpm -q kernel it does not >>show 2.6.4-1.298 (It shows the other kernels 253 etc) >>[root at old1 boot]# rpm -q kernel >>kernel-2.6.3-2.1.242 >>kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253 >>kernel-2.6.3-2.1.246 >>kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 >> >> >> > >I had similar problems. Clean install of test2 with selinux in enforcing >mode followed by a yum update. Many of the postinstall scripts reported >failures and after a reboot (to boot the new kernel that didn't get >installed) lots of things were very broken. Permissions on directories >in /var were all messed up (as root I couldn't cd to /var/log to try to >figure out what was going). So I did a clean install of test2 again, >setting selinux to warn only, and things are much happier. It seems like >the default policy of selinux kept many files from being updated >properly. > >Let me know if you file a bug report so I can add to it. > > Make sure you run newrole -r sysadm_r before execing rpm. You should have got an error when you ran or if you are running under unlimitedUsers, it should have worked, The problem is that it half worked. :^) >tjb > > From list at inksystems.net Wed Mar 31 16:06:16 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor Kolomiyets) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:06:16 +0100 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue References: <292578298ef6.298ef6292578@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <000f01c4173a$18e85d80$0a6fa8c0@inksystems.net> Opps. I have the same behaviour with KDE. Anyways the problem is that the sound system can be fired up only with "Play Test Sound" button. Which does not seem to be right. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Intel i8x0 audio issue > I am actually using GNOME. > I have NOT even started KDE at all yet. > > ------------------------- > M Galvin > Lead Programmer > Simplified Complexity > http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Igor Kolomiyets > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:49 am > Subject: Re: Intel i8x0 audio issue > > > It works on first try as well. I assume that you're using KDE as i > > experience the same behaviour on my installation. KDE uses sound > > systemexclusively and releases it only after 60 sec (by default or > > depending on > > your settings). So if you click on "Play Test Sound" and leave it > > for a > > while sound comes back eventually. > > However, i don't think it is has something to do with the mixer > > settings. I > > have an impression that my ALSA does not work at all and using > > this woodoo > > sequence actually creates the sound through something else. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:39 PM > > Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I know this was an issue in FC1 but did not find anything on > > the list > > about it for FC2T2. > > > > > > During installation clicking "Play Test Sound" the first > > time does not > > work. I have to click it twice. The second time the sound works. > > But this > > seems to be reset on every reboot, the alsa mixer settings seem to > > not be > > being saved correctly. To get sound working again after a reboot I > > have been > > able to use the System Settings -> Soundcard Detection Tool. > > Sometimes it > > works on the first try, sometimes on the second try. > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > M Galvin > > > Lead Programmer > > > Simplified Complexity > > > http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 31 16:06:59 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:06:59 -0400 Subject: getting out of x In-Reply-To: <1080748880.1890.28.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> <1080748880.1890.28.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1080749218.29413.63.camel@zephyr> > On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 11:00, Joel Grimes wrote: > > Noob question here - and forgive me for ranting, but it's just KILLING me! > > > > How do I get the hell out of X? I've become so frustrated with that > > damned automatic-restart-x thing that i wanted to resort to violence. > > When, out of desparation, I hit ctrl-alt-backspace it keeps reloading > > it. When I do that you'd think it would GET THE POINT THAT I WANT OUT! > > (arg!.... I feel better now) >On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 12:01, Will Backman wrote: > As root, telinit 3 Alternately, if you just want to get to a console (but keep X going in the 'background'), just Ctrl-Alt-[F1..F6] to switch to one of the virtual consoles. You can do the telinit 3 from one of the consoles if you don't want to/can't have a session in X :-) Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From mgalvin at nycap.rr.com Wed Mar 31 16:08:15 2004 From: mgalvin at nycap.rr.com (mgalvin at nycap.rr.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:08:15 -0500 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue Message-ID: <2b781d2bb235.2bb2352b781d@nyroc.rr.com> I have opened the bug... http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119582 ------------------------- M Galvin Lead Programmer Simplified Complexity http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Igor Kolomiyets Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:06 am Subject: Re: Intel i8x0 audio issue > Opps. I have the same behaviour with KDE. Anyways the problem is > that the > sound system can be fired up only with "Play Test Sound" button. > Which does > not seem to be right. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:53 PM > Subject: Re: Intel i8x0 audio issue > > > > I am actually using GNOME. > > I have NOT even started KDE at all yet. > > > > ------------------------- > > M Galvin > > Lead Programmer > > Simplified Complexity > > http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Igor Kolomiyets > > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:49 am > > Subject: Re: Intel i8x0 audio issue > > > > > It works on first try as well. I assume that you're using KDE > as i > > > experience the same behaviour on my installation. KDE uses sound > > > systemexclusively and releases it only after 60 sec (by > default or > > > depending on > > > your settings). So if you click on "Play Test Sound" and leave it > > > for a > > > while sound comes back eventually. > > > However, i don't think it is has something to do with the mixer > > > settings. I > > > have an impression that my ALSA does not work at all and using > > > this woodoo > > > sequence actually creates the sound through something else. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:39 PM > > > Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I know this was an issue in FC1 but did not find > anything on > > > the list > > > about it for FC2T2. > > > > > > > > During installation clicking "Play Test Sound" the first > > > time does not > > > work. I have to click it twice. The second time the sound works. > > > But this > > > seems to be reset on every reboot, the alsa mixer settings > seem to > > > not be > > > being saved correctly. To get sound working again after a > reboot I > > > have been > > > able to use the System Settings -> Soundcard Detection Tool. > > > Sometimes it > > > works on the first try, sometimes on the second try. > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > M Galvin > > > > Lead Programmer > > > > Simplified Complexity > > > > http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > > To unsubscribe: > > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From czar at czarc.net Wed Mar 31 16:08:10 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:08:10 -0500 Subject: warning about up2date In-Reply-To: <406AEB78.20207@stirlingbridge.com> References: <200403311039.09522.czar@czarc.net> <406AEB78.20207@stirlingbridge.com> Message-ID: <200403311108.10917.czar@czarc.net> On Wednesday 31 March 2004 11:02, Joel Grimes wrote: > Getting exactly this same behavior - including the Kernel update problem > in the bug report. > > Gene C. wrote: > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119538 > > > >After having the up2date problem with the kernel, I attempted to do some > >additional installs. I tried to install all outstanding updates but > > up2date chocked on that (backtrace). So I tried something small -- a2ps, > > anaconda, anaconda-runtime and the four amanda-* packages. Everthing > > downloaded and the install looked fine (at first) but the install > > progress bar did not complete even if the finish message appeared. > > Clicked once to get the list of installed packages and up2date said > > everything was installed. I then checked with rpm queries ... amanada > > was not only not updated but it was now removed from the system. > > > >Caution ... do not believe up2date processing ... be sure to manually > > check all up2dating using up2date. > > Message I was about to send, but you beat me to it: > > ###################################### > I ran up2date on a clean Test 2 install. There's like 100 updates, so i > try to take them 10 or so at a time. > > After downloading, it goes to install, but in some cases, it'll skip one > of the downloaded updates - leaving the progress bar (bottom one) some > distance from the end and yet it stops and enables the FINISH button. > Which i click. Then run it again. > > Second time around, one of the updates i just downloaded is still > available for download. So i select it again to give it another shot, > but it never gets removed from the AVAILABLE list. > ####################################### OK ... I now see this is related to selinux. For now you can: 1. Do not update with up2date (although this probably hits yum also). or 2. Switch to permissive mode ("setenforcing 0") before you run up2date. To see the problem, in enforcing mode, manually run rpm on a package having the problem (such as the kernel). -- Gene From jr36 at leicester.ac.uk Wed Mar 31 16:04:06 2004 From: jr36 at leicester.ac.uk (Jonathan Rawle) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:04:06 +0100 Subject: FC2T2: 2 questions References: <20040331102244.GA2284@home.nl> <1080738290.4755.5.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040331150930.GA2168@home.nl> Message-ID: Alexander Volovics wrote: > I don't have the energy to delve into this mess in any detail. > I have skimmed all the selinux faq's and intro's but non of them > has a really clear and systematic overview of selinux and it's usefulness > for a home pc connected to the internet, a systematic overview of > the config files, what should be configured and to what purpose. > By far the best introduction to SELinux I've found is: http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=21266 I'd recommend this to anyone who finds it confusing! As you said, most of the other FAQs don't seem to approach it in a systematic way. -- http://jonathan.rawle.org/ From ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org Wed Mar 31 16:13:30 2004 From: ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org (Steven P. Ulrick) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:13:30 -0600 Subject: getting out of x In-Reply-To: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> References: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> Message-ID: <20040331101330.4271f3bc.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:00:46 -0800 Joel Grimes wrote: > Noob question here - and forgive me for ranting, but it's just KILLING > me! > > How do I get the hell out of X? I've become so frustrated with that > damned automatic-restart-x thing that i wanted to resort to violence. > > When, out of desparation, I hit ctrl-alt-backspace it keeps reloading > it. When I do that you'd think it would GET THE POINT THAT I WANT > OUT! (arg!.... I feel better now) Hello, Joel :) "ctrl-alt-f1" through "ctrl-alt-f6" will take you to a non-graphical mode, but I think that that doesn't actually kill X. As root, "/sbin/telinit 3" will take you directly to runlevel three, under which I believe X does not run. Have a Great Day :) Steven P. Ulrick From ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de Wed Mar 31 16:16:52 2004 From: ms-nospam-0306 at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:16:52 +0200 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue In-Reply-To: <000f01c4173a$18e85d80$0a6fa8c0@inksystems.net> References: <292578298ef6.298ef6292578@nyroc.rr.com> <000f01c4173a$18e85d80$0a6fa8c0@inksystems.net> Message-ID: <20040331181652.2d737608.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:06:16 +0100, Igor Kolomiyets wrote: > Opps. I have the same behaviour with KDE. Anyways the problem is that the > sound system can be fired up only with "Play Test Sound" button. Which does > not seem to be right. Check your mixer settings, e.g. with alsamixer. Then run "alsactl store" as root. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 31 16:17:10 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:17:10 -0500 Subject: Today's dependency problems In-Reply-To: <1080748602.4755.39.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <200403310714.52183.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1080741302.4755.8.camel@athlon.localdomain> <1080748602.4755.39.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <200403311117.12157.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 31 March 2004 10:56 am, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hi Neal, > > I wrote: > > > Resolving dependencies > > > .Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimp-1.3.so.26, this is not available. > > > > As has been discussed before mirrors might be lagging a little. As you > > do not state which site you use I assume your mirror does. > > Hm. libgimp-1.3.so.26 is provided by gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm that > has been available since March 18th. Not sure why it doesn't show up for > you. Knowing which mirror you use could help in that respect. > download.fedora.us -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAau8GMDqogpR5tkMRAjijAJ92ZsyFoC5L5SbWdAxh/63SIapDoQCaAuC9 JtpgL2U0iVAhvOyWrHltgmA= =sjWq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Wed Mar 31 16:17:45 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:17:45 +0300 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: <20040331150931.M73702@postman.net> References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <200403311802.37662.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> <20040331150931.M73702@postman.net> Message-ID: <200403311917.45315.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Mike kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika keskiviikko, 31. maaliskuuta 2004 18:14): > This may not apply in your case, but some drives (like mine!) > cannot boot from a CD-RW, only CD-Rs. Unless you know yours > can, you might try burning a CD-R instead. I have used CD-RWs for beta releases since the RHL 9 betas, and never had a problem with booting. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 16:18:28 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 13:18:28 -0300 Subject: FC2T2: 2 questions In-Reply-To: <20040331102244.GA2284@home.nl> References: <20040331102244.GA2284@home.nl> Message-ID: On Mar 31, 2004, Alexander Volovics wrote: > - The 'yenta_socket' not loading bug from FC2T1 is still there. > I have to manually modprobe yenta_socket, restart pcmcia and > /sbin/ifup eth0 to enable networking. > Is this "a work in progress" or should I bugzilla it again? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116205 (mentioned in this list yesterday, FWIW) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Wed Mar 31 16:17:52 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:17:52 -0500 Subject: Today's dependency problems In-Reply-To: <1080748602.4755.39.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <200403310714.52183.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1080741302.4755.8.camel@athlon.localdomain> <1080748602.4755.39.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: Just an FYI here, I double checked my install and I have the very libraries up2date is choking on installed. On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:56:43 +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hi Neal, > > I wrote: > >> > Resolving dependencies >> > .Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimp-1.3.so.26, this is not available. >> >> As has been discussed before mirrors might be lagging a little. As you >> do not state which site you use I assume your mirror does. > > Hm. libgimp-1.3.so.26 is provided by gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm that > has been available since March 18th. Not sure why it doesn't show up for > you. Knowing which mirror you use could help in that respect. > > Leonard. > -- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? Mark Haney Development, Systems and Network Administration DoctorDirectory.com http://www.doctordirectory.com From slivkoff at mac.com Wed Mar 31 17:26:17 2004 From: slivkoff at mac.com (MDS) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:26:17 -0700 Subject: cannot update XFree86 packages Message-ID: <406AFF39.2010301@mac.com> Hello. I know that there are up2date issues, and one of mine is not having any of the XFree86 packages listed as available to update. They were there a couple of days ago on the Available Updates Window, but now they're gone. I have not updated these packages. I have similar issues with some glibc packages, among many others, all of which I have not updated. Much thanks. Mark From mgalvin at nycap.rr.com Wed Mar 31 16:32:17 2004 From: mgalvin at nycap.rr.com (mgalvin at nycap.rr.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:32:17 -0500 Subject: clock-applet dies when trying to change prefs Message-ID: <2b970f2bb4dd.2bb4dd2b970f@nyroc.rr.com> The clock-applet is on the panel but when I right click on the time and select preferences it dies and I get a error message pop up that just says "The Application "clock-applet" has quit unexpectedly." It then lets me restart the clock-applet which puts it back on the panel. Then the prosess repeats. I just want to set it to display the full date. Its just keeps dying when seleting Prefeneces... Anyone else have this prob., a fix? ------------------------- M Galvin Lead Programmer Simplified Complexity http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com From maxer1 at xmission.com Wed Mar 31 16:34:39 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:34:39 -0700 Subject: arjanv's 2.6.4-1.300 fails on mkinitrd from rpm Message-ID: <406AF31F.30505@xmission.com> Don't know if I'll get hammered for posting arjanv's kernel bugs here, but oh well. rpm -ivh kernel-* warning: kernel-2.6.4-1.300.i686.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 9d6b4012 Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:kernel-source ########################################### [ 50%] 2:kernel ########################################### [100%] No module ieee1394 found for kernel 2.6.4-1.300, aborting. mkinitrd failed Have at it. RaXeT From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 31 16:35:02 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:35:02 -0400 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue In-Reply-To: <20040331181652.2d737608.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <292578298ef6.298ef6292578@nyroc.rr.com> <000f01c4173a$18e85d80$0a6fa8c0@inksystems.net> <20040331181652.2d737608.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1080750901.29413.75.camel@zephyr> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 12:16, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:06:16 +0100, Igor Kolomiyets wrote: > > > Opps. I have the same behaviour with KDE. Anyways the problem is that the > > sound system can be fired up only with "Play Test Sound" button. Which does > > not seem to be right. > > Check your mixer settings, e.g. with alsamixer. Then run "alsactl store" > as root. I've noticed that doing so does not reliably store/restore *all* of the settings. For example, on my nForce-2 motherboard (using the intel8x0 driver), the 'mix' switch is not properly stored (or restored -- I'm not sure which), although levels are. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Mar 31 16:42:20 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:42:20 -0500 Subject: Today's dependency problems In-Reply-To: References: <200403310714.52183.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1080748602.4755.39.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <200403311142.21822.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 31 March 2004 11:17 am, Mark Haney wrote: > Just an FYI here, I double checked my install and I have the very > libraries up2date is choking on installed. > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:56:43 +0200, Leonard den Ottolander > > wrote: > > Hi Neal, > > > > I wrote: > >> > Resolving dependencies > >> > .Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimp-1.3.so.26, this is not available. > >> > >> As has been discussed before mirrors might be lagging a little. As you > >> do not state which site you use I assume your mirror does. > > > > Hm. libgimp-1.3.so.26 is provided by gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm that > > has been available since March 18th. Not sure why it doesn't show up for > > you. Knowing which mirror you use could help in that respect. > > > > Leonard. I believe it is choking cause updating would install new gimp stuff, at least gimp-devel, which would not provide libgim-1.3.so.26. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAavTsMDqogpR5tkMRAo6eAJ97Hko32DStez+gpQDrHC3PM1g5WwCgjx5v Bcb3Qh/OOGY8SsCev85c+xw= =jtXU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From randysch at comcast.net Wed Mar 31 16:40:36 2004 From: randysch at comcast.net (Randy Schrickel) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:40:36 -0500 Subject: getting out of x In-Reply-To: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> References: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> Message-ID: <406AF484.7030804@comcast.net> Joel Grimes wrote: > Noob question here - and forgive me for ranting, but it's just KILLING me! > > How do I get the hell out of X? I've become so frustrated with that My wife always used to ask the same thing. She finally found that rolling over and complaining of a headache worked. Oh, wait.....you said "X"..... ;-) randy From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Wed Mar 31 16:45:53 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:45:53 +0100 Subject: Calming the BAD JOKE thread In-Reply-To: References: <1080676780.1221.88.camel@agnes.fremen.dune> <200403310059.16223.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <20040331164553.GA6920@nsk.no-ip.org> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 12:43:45AM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Yup. Same isolinux, same vmlinux, same initrd.img. At least it was > that way last I checked, back in FC1. I don't see why it would have > changed. What version of isolinux? There was a rare problem when the boot files ended at the end of the iso9660 filesystem. I think either it was resolved in a new version or a work around to mkisofs was found. Regards, Luciano Rocha From troy at carpenter.cx Wed Mar 31 16:46:08 2004 From: troy at carpenter.cx (Troy Carpenter) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:46:08 -0500 Subject: Today's dependency problems Message-ID: Actually, the problem is that the new gimp package (gimp-2.0.0-5) deletes that library and replaces it: # rpm -ql gimp | grep libgimp /usr/lib/libgimp-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgimp-2.0.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libgimpbase-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgimpbase-2.0.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libgimpcolor-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgimpcolor-2.0.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libgimpmath-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgimpmath-2.0.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libgimpmodule-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgimpmodule-2.0.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libgimpthumb-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgimpthumb-2.0.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libgimpui-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgimpui-2.0.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.0.0.0 So the dependency is that libgimp-1.3.so.26 is being removed and will no longer be available, not that it is currently not available. Troy Carpenter troy at carpenter.cx -----Original Message----- Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:56:43 +0200 From: Leonard den Ottolander Subject: Re: Today's dependency problems To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: <1080748602.4755.39.camel at athlon.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Hi Neal, I wrote: > > Resolving dependencies > > .Package gtkam-gimp needs libgimp-1.3.so.26, this is not available. > > As has been discussed before mirrors might be lagging a little. As you > do not state which site you use I assume your mirror does. Hm. libgimp-1.3.so.26 is provided by gimp-2.0-1.pre3.4.1.i386.rpm that has been available since March 18th. Not sure why it doesn't show up for you. Knowing which mirror you use could help in that respect. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From josh at hayden.ws Wed Mar 31 16:46:11 2004 From: josh at hayden.ws (Josh Hayden) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:46:11 -0600 Subject: clock-applet dies when trying to change prefs In-Reply-To: <2b970f2bb4dd.2bb4dd2b970f@nyroc.rr.com> References: <2b970f2bb4dd.2bb4dd2b970f@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <1080751517.3389.2.camel@cuaderno.lan> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 10:32, mgalvin at nycap.rr.com wrote: > The clock-applet is on the panel but when I right click on the time and select preferences it dies and I get a error message pop up that just says "The Application "clock-applet" has quit unexpectedly." It then lets me restart the clock-applet which puts it back on the panel. Then the prosess repeats. I just want to set it to display the full date. Its just keeps dying when seleting Prefeneces... > > Anyone else have this prob., a fix? > I noticed this problem yesterday. Here's a bug report in bugzilla about it: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136721 Josh From bcs at metacon.ca Wed Mar 31 16:49:05 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:49:05 -0400 Subject: FC up2date with development/ In-Reply-To: <1080779921.11980.28.camel@julius> References: <1080779921.11980.28.camel@julius> Message-ID: <1080751745.29413.81.camel@zephyr> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 20:38, P.I.Julius wrote: > Or simply, it is enough if i update my release always from the > development tree to have the latest release/test release installed on my > box? or i should download the released isos every time and then upgrade > to the development tree to have the latest and newest packages? That's basically what I did on a box last week (I needed to re-install but FC2T1 was the 'current' release), so I installed from the FC2T1 media then did a complete update (it was a little sticky, because of major changes like XFree86 to xorg and Evo 1.5 dropping to Evo 1.4), then, once FC2T2 was released, I did an upgrade from the media. Some things, like SELinux, are missing, but the system is stable. It's certainly not a production server or anything, just a sort of sandbox. I don't consider it stable (in a "changed-ness" sense) enough to report bugs against unless I get independent corroboration from a cleanly installed FC2T2 box. In short, it works, but I don't think it's recommended (or possibly even sane). :-) Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Wed Mar 31 17:21:26 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:21:26 +0200 Subject: Another person's experience installing FC2 test 2 In-Reply-To: <003201c4171a$60285120$0201a8c0@magra.demon.co.uk> References: <003201c4171a$60285120$0201a8c0@magra.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <1080753686.17395.9.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> I tried two things at the same time. Not enabling selinux and not using reiserfs. Together this let me run the fc2. Very strange that the file system should make a difference. I had also initially tried reiserfs with warn mode for selinux. I was going to report the problem but then noticed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119486 where Bill Nottingham says "reiserfs does not support extended attributes, so SELinux will not work with it." so I guess that it is the file system. On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 14:19, Aled Hughes wrote: > I too had exactly the same problem with missing inittab and also various > rc.* scripts. Initially I had this with a rawhide version just prior to > test2, but after getting test2 and installing onto an empty existing > reiserfs partition, it still happened. I had SELinux in 'warn' mode. > When I reinstalled and told it to reformat the root partition as ext3 the > init problem was resolved. So I concluded the problem is related to using > reiserfs. > > My system still doesn't boot correctly (sticks at "updating etc/fstab"), but > that's an unrelated issue I need to further investiage. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of shmuel siegel > Sent: 31 March 2004 03:01 > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Another person's experience installing FC2 test 2 > > > I am running a dual boot Win2k/Fedora system. Originally formatted by > Win2k for the NTFS and Fat32 partitions and formatted by RH7/8/9 for the > ext3 and linux swap partitions. > I got the already known complaints during the install. I couldn't do a > hard disk install because I didn't have a driver. The CDROM install > warned about partition alignment problems. > I didn't upgrade my FC1 system but rather installed FC2 to an existing > ext3 partition which I bravely reformatted as reiserfs. The installation > went smoothly and rapidly. > Rebooting, I found to my annoyance, that the boot loader was overridden > and now pointed to somewhere that didn't have my fc1 configuration, thus > forcing me to do some grub.conf editting. But more seriously, with > selinux turned on, I couldn't start. init did not have the proper > permissions. Rebooting with selinux turned off, didn't help since there > was no inittab. Copying the inittab from fc1 didn't help since there was > no rc.d/rc. > How should I proceed? > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From mgalvin at nycap.rr.com Wed Mar 31 18:11:49 2004 From: mgalvin at nycap.rr.com (mgalvin at nycap.rr.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:11:49 -0500 Subject: how to set up ftp install server Message-ID: <2c4f4b2c4346.2c43462c4f4b@nyroc.rr.com> This might not be the right place to ask but I am setting up an FTP install server for Fedora. I have read the Redhat docs but they don't really specify what FTP dir structure needs to be. Does anyone know? Should it be /ftproot/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/disk1 /disk2 /disk3 OR /ftproot/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/(all disks in one dir) while combining the Fedora dirs from each cd Thanks in advance! ------------------------- M Galvin Lead Programmer Simplified Complexity http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com From jmorris at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 18:14:37 2004 From: jmorris at redhat.com (James Morris) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:14:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Another person's experience installing FC2 test 2 In-Reply-To: <1080753686.17395.9.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, shmuel siegel wrote: > I tried two things at the same time. Not enabling selinux and not using > reiserfs. Together this let me run the fc2. Very strange that the file > system should make a difference. I had also initially tried reiserfs > with warn mode for selinux. > > I was going to report the problem but then noticed > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119486 > where Bill Nottingham says > "reiserfs does not support extended attributes, so SELinux will not > work with it." > > so I guess that it is the file system. You should be able to specify a default context for the entire filesystem in genfs_contexts, and/or use a context mount (i.e. mount -o context=some_context). - James -- James Morris From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 18:32:13 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 15:32:13 -0300 Subject: kernel-2.6.4-1.298 fails on IEEE1394 In-Reply-To: <406AEAD8.2000800@xmission.com> References: <406AEAD8.2000800@xmission.com> Message-ID: On Mar 31, 2004, RaXeT wrote: > IEEE1394 fails on the make install after building custom kernel. It > was setup in .config just fine. The ieee1394 modules are Very Broken (TM) in the current upstream kernels. Even if it installed properly, you'd run into serious problems at run-time. Ben Collins is yet to merge some of the recent fixes from the subversion tree into Linus' kernel that we pull from, but even then, the code would still be broken. My personal recommendation is to take drivers/ieee1394 from kernel 2.6.3 and drop it into the current kernel tree. That's what I've been doing to get my external Maxtor HDs (5000DV and OneTouch) to work. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 18:38:59 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 15:38:59 -0300 Subject: Cipe? In-Reply-To: <406AEBD7.60204@rueb.com> References: <406AEBD7.60204@rueb.com> Message-ID: On Mar 31, 2004, Steve Bergman wrote: > I have need to establish cipe connection from a current rawhide box to > a RH9 box. Cipe is still an option under system-config-network and > cipe-1.4.5-20 is installed from the rawhide repository. However I see > no signs of the cipe kernel modules anywhere and when I try to > activate the connection with "ifup cipcb0" I get "Cannot find device". > Is this supposed to work? Not any longer. cipe has never been part of upstream kernel, and, in the switch to 2.6, since we got IPSec, and given the security flaws that exist in cipe, there was a decision to not add it to the 2.6 kernel in FC. Unfortunately, IPSec is not compatible with Cipe, and doesn't offer all of the same features (the one I miss the most is the ability to establish secure channel with a network whose gateway has a dynamically-assigned IP), but AFAIK the decision has already been made. I suppose it wouldn't hurt if people sufficiently motivated would take over the cipe package that was removed from rawhide just before FC2test2 and build programs and kernel modules as Extras for FC2. I'm told the main hurdle that had to be overcome, namely porting cipe to kernel 2.6, has already been taken care of upstream. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Mar 31 18:42:32 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:42:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC up2date with development/ In-Reply-To: <1080779921.11980.28.camel@julius> References: <1080779921.11980.28.camel@julius> Message-ID: <3468.12.29.16.103.1080758552.squirrel@12.29.16.103> P.I.Julius said: > Or simply, it is enough if i update my release always from the > development tree to have the latest release/test release installed on my > box? It is not preferred for the same reason doing an Anaconda update from test1 -> test2 isn't preferred: a) Packages can be reverted to earlier versions (for example Evolution) b) Any _new_ packages won't be installed, so you aren't doing a test of what the final code will be (for example SELinux, which is a major focus of test2). c) Any "left over" files/packages can cause issues and are a pain to track town (for example the error in one of the XFree86 scripts causing the ldconfig to not be updated). -- William Hooper From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 18:42:42 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 15:42:42 -0300 Subject: cannot update XFree86 packages In-Reply-To: <406AFF39.2010301@mac.com> References: <406AFF39.2010301@mac.com> Message-ID: On Mar 31, 2004, MDS wrote: > I know that there are up2date issues, and one of mine is not having > any of the XFree86 packages listed as available to update. Use xorg-x11\* instead. They obsolete XFree86. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 18:44:46 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 31 Mar 2004 15:44:46 -0300 Subject: arjanv's 2.6.4-1.300 fails on mkinitrd from rpm In-Reply-To: <406AF31F.30505@xmission.com> References: <406AF31F.30505@xmission.com> Message-ID: On Mar 31, 2004, RaXeT wrote: > Don't know if I'll get hammered for posting arjanv's kernel bugs here, Certainly not, given that it's the current rawhide kernel :-) > No module ieee1394 found for kernel 2.6.4-1.300, aborting. > mkinitrd failed ieee1394 is not available in the latest kernels. I think the way to get around this issue is to either roll your own ieee1394 modules (yuck, but I've been doing that out of personal need/interest :-) or comment out anything that resembles ieee1394, ohci1394 or sbp2 in /etc/modprobe.conf, such that mkinitrd doesn't attempt to include these modules by default. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Mar 31 18:51:13 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:51:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: how to set up ftp install server In-Reply-To: <2c4f4b2c4346.2c43462c4f4b@nyroc.rr.com> References: <2c4f4b2c4346.2c43462c4f4b@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4837.12.29.16.103.1080759073.squirrel@12.29.16.103> mgalvin at nycap.rr.com said: > This might not be the right place to ask but I am > setting up an FTP install server for Fedora. I have > read the Redhat docs but they don't really specify > what FTP dir structure needs to be. Does anyone know? AFAIK you want it to look like: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/os/ Combining the discs seems to be the way to go. -- William Hooper From tjb at unh.edu Wed Mar 31 19:33:27 2004 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:33:27 -0500 Subject: install of kernel 2.6.4-1.298 does not work In-Reply-To: <406AEBC7.4080903@redhat.com> References: <406A41D2.4030001@mindspring.com> <1080748248.27486.8.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <406AEBC7.4080903@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1080761607.1930.1.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 11:03, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Thomas J. Baker wrote: > > > >I had similar problems. Clean install of test2 with selinux in enforcing > >mode followed by a yum update. Many of the postinstall scripts reported > >failures and after a reboot (to boot the new kernel that didn't get > >installed) lots of things were very broken. Permissions on directories > >in /var were all messed up (as root I couldn't cd to /var/log to try to > >figure out what was going). So I did a clean install of test2 again, > >setting selinux to warn only, and things are much happier. It seems like > >the default policy of selinux kept many files from being updated > >properly. > > > >Let me know if you file a bug report so I can add to it. > > > > > Make sure you run newrole -r sysadm_r before execing rpm. > > You should have got an error when you ran or if you are running under > unlimitedUsers, it should have > worked, The problem is that it half worked. :^) > I assume that I should have done that newrole command before running yum since I did not run rpm directly? I'm not running unlimtedUsers as far as I know. I had the default install. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From lowen at pari.edu Wed Mar 31 19:36:56 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:36:56 -0500 Subject: Problems with postgres in test2 In-Reply-To: <1080779658.2002.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1080779658.2002.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200403311436.56960.lowen@pari.edu> On Wednesday 31 March 2004 07:34 pm, mike wrote: > I have installed test2 and now am having problems with a pg DB > I did pg_dump_all to a file, checked it, all my data is there > Updated then did psql -f template1 as the man page What was the previous PostgreSQL version? > The "child" table wont allow inserts from a cgi script which worked fine > with test1 This is odd. Do you have the DML that created those tables handy? -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From list at inksystems.net Wed Mar 31 19:53:27 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor N. Kolomiyets) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:53:27 +0100 Subject: Intel i8x0 audio issue In-Reply-To: <20040331181652.2d737608.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> References: <292578298ef6.298ef6292578@nyroc.rr.com> <000f01c4173a$18e85d80$0a6fa8c0@inksystems.net> <20040331181652.2d737608.ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de> Message-ID: <406B21B7.1030204@inksystems.net> I did that. It didn't help though. Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:06:16 +0100, Igor Kolomiyets wrote: > > >>Opps. I have the same behaviour with KDE. Anyways the problem is that the >>sound system can be fired up only with "Play Test Sound" button. Which does >>not seem to be right. > > > Check your mixer settings, e.g. with alsamixer. Then run "alsactl store" > as root. > > > > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Mar 31 20:43:46 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:43:46 +0100 Subject: OOo 1.1.1 Message-ID: <1080765826.15393.118.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Will OOo 1.1.1 be integrated soon into FC2t2? TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nutello at sweetness.com Wed Mar 31 20:31:13 2004 From: nutello at sweetness.com (Rudi Chiarito) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:31:13 +0200 Subject: getting out of x In-Reply-To: <20040331101330.4271f3bc.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> References: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> <20040331101330.4271f3bc.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> Message-ID: <20040331203113.GC22538@server4.8080.it> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:13:30AM -0600, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > "ctrl-alt-f1" through "ctrl-alt-f6" will take you to a non-graphical > mode, but I think that that doesn't actually kill X. I think the original poster might have run into one of those situations when X tries to start over and over - and over again. As soon as you switch to one of the consoles and type a few characters, X switches to vt7 again, just to fail once more and so on. Entering the username in such cases gets annoying; entering the password borders on the impossible or desperate. The quickest options are rebooting (preferably in runlevel 1/3) or connecting through SSH/terminal. GDM has - or used to have - code to detect if X has been restarted too many times in too short of a time, but it doesn't seem to be effective all the time. I haven't had the time to research it, but I think that a way to get X into such problems is to kill nscd and log out of the current session. Somebody might want to look into it. Rudi From awol at home.nl Wed Mar 31 21:03:40 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:03:40 +0200 Subject: FC2T2: 2 questions In-Reply-To: References: <20040331102244.GA2284@home.nl> Message-ID: <20040331210340.GA2050@home.nl> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 01:18:28PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > - The 'yenta_socket' not loading bug from FC2T1 is still there. > > I have to manually modprobe yenta_socket, restart pcmcia and > > /sbin/ifup eth0 to enable networking. > > Is this "a work in progress" or should I bugzilla it again? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116205 > (mentioned in this list yesterday, FWIW) Thanks, I'll look into it. Alexander From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Mar 31 21:07:35 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:07:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: OOo 1.1.1 In-Reply-To: <1080765826.15393.118.camel@T7.linux> References: <1080765826.15393.118.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <4563.12.29.16.103.1080767255.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Paul said: > Hi, > > Will OOo 1.1.1 be integrated soon into FC2t2? > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-March/msg00906.html -- William Hooper From awol at home.nl Wed Mar 31 21:17:18 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:17:18 +0200 Subject: FC2T2: 2 questions In-Reply-To: References: <20040331102244.GA2284@home.nl> <1080738290.4755.5.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040331150930.GA2168@home.nl> Message-ID: <20040331211718.GB2050@home.nl> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 05:04:06PM +0100, Jonathan Rawle wrote: > > I don't have the energy to delve into this mess in any detail. > > I have skimmed all the selinux faq's and intro's but non of them > > has a really clear and systematic overview of selinux and it's usefulness > > for a home pc connected to the internet, a systematic overview of > > the config files, what should be configured and to what purpose. > By far the best introduction to SELinux I've found is: > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=21266 > > I'd recommend this to anyone who finds it confusing! As you said, most of > the other FAQs don't seem to approach it in a systematic way. Thanks. I've downloaded the PDF. This does seem to be more systematic. I'll read it and try again. Alexander From zachw at termdex.com Wed Mar 31 21:09:18 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:09:18 -0500 Subject: Call Trace on boot Message-ID: <003701c41764$6f2b65a0$6601a8c0@termdex.local> I started getting these errors after upgrading to 2.6.4 out of the development tree. ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:09.0 (0014 -> 0017) sk98lin: Network Device Driver v6.23 (C)Copyright 1999-2004 Marvell(R). divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: 3Com Gigabit LOM (3C940) PrefPort:A RlmtMode:Check Link State ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:1943 in_atomic():0, irqs_disabled():1 Call Trace: [<02120144>] __might_sleep+0x80/0x8a [<02149cdf>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x1c/0x143 [<229953a6>] Vpd+0x26/0x801 [sk98lin] [<22993b03>] SkPnmiGetStruct+0x330/0x3de [sk98lin] [<0211e7eb>] __wake_up+0x8a/0xee [<2298d65b>] SkGeStats+0xef/0x29e [sk98lin] [<022800d7>] rtnetlink_fill_ifinfo+0x307/0x3c8 [<02280359>] rtmsg_ifinfo+0x2d/0x78 [<022808e6>] rtnetlink_event+0x35/0x38 [<02131709>] notifier_call_chain+0x17/0x30 [<022789b2>] dev_open+0xc5/0xcc [<02279d33>] dev_change_flags+0x48/0xee [<022b3de8>] devinet_ioctl+0x255/0x4a1 [<022b58b7>] inet_ioctl+0x69/0x9b [<022723c0>] sock_ioctl+0x2d7/0x38d [<02272808>] sys_socket+0x2a/0x3d [<02178662>] sys_ioctl+0x29a/0x33c eth0: network connection up using port A speed: 100 autonegotiation: yes duplex mode: full flowctrl: symmetric irq moderation: disabled scatter-gather: enabled Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:1943 in_atomic():0, irqs_disabled():1 Call Trace: [<02120144>] __might_sleep+0x80/0x8a [<02149cdf>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x1c/0x143 [<229953a6>] Vpd+0x26/0x801 [sk98lin] [<22993b03>] SkPnmiGetStruct+0x330/0x3de [sk98lin] [<2298d65b>] SkGeStats+0xef/0x29e [sk98lin] [<022800d7>] rtnetlink_fill_ifinfo+0x307/0x3c8 [<022801d3>] rtnetlink_dump_ifinfo+0x3b/0x56 [<0228b21e>] netlink_dump+0x145/0x4c9 [<02149dce>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x10b/0x143 [<0228b7a1>] netlink_dump_start+0x1ff/0x207 [<022804d6>] rtnetlink_rcv+0x12f/0x50a [<02280198>] rtnetlink_dump_ifinfo+0x0/0x56 [<022803a4>] rtnetlink_done+0x0/0x3 [<0228b00f>] netlink_data_ready+0x14/0x41 [<0228a83f>] netlink_unicast+0x31f/0x362 [<0211e6fe>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [<0211e6fe>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [<0228ae33>] netlink_sendmsg+0x258/0x267 [<02271c7c>] sock_sendmsg+0x88/0xa2 [<02145458>] buffered_rmqueue+0x1ec/0x1f6 [<0216177e>] rw_vm+0x30a/0x3a4 [<02161a71>] get_user_size+0x30/0x57 [<02272d89>] sys_sendto+0xc7/0xe2 [<0211b1e7>] do_page_fault+0x12b/0x442 [<02271a44>] sock_map_file+0x98/0x106 [<021512ea>] follow_page+0xf4/0xff [<0216177e>] rw_vm+0x30a/0x3a4 [<02273480>] sys_socketcall+0xeb/0x179 parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE] parport0: irq 7 detected lp0: using parport0 (polling). lp0: console ready NET: Registered protocol family 10 Disabled Privacy Extensions on device 0232f700(lo) IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device sit0 Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:1943 in_atomic():0, irqs_disabled():1 Call Trace: [<02120144>] __might_sleep+0x80/0x8a [<02149cdf>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x1c/0x143 [<229953a6>] Vpd+0x26/0x801 [sk98lin] [<22993b03>] SkPnmiGetStruct+0x330/0x3de [sk98lin] [<2298d65b>] SkGeStats+0xef/0x29e [sk98lin] [<022800d7>] rtnetlink_fill_ifinfo+0x307/0x3c8 [<022801d3>] rtnetlink_dump_ifinfo+0x3b/0x56 [<0228b21e>] netlink_dump+0x145/0x4c9 [<02149dce>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x10b/0x143 [<0228b7a1>] netlink_dump_start+0x1ff/0x207 [<022804d6>] rtnetlink_rcv+0x12f/0x50a [<02280198>] rtnetlink_dump_ifinfo+0x0/0x56 [<022803a4>] rtnetlink_done+0x0/0x3 [<0228b00f>] netlink_data_ready+0x14/0x41 [<0228a83f>] netlink_unicast+0x31f/0x362 [<0211e6fe>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [<0211e6fe>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [<0228ae33>] netlink_sendmsg+0x258/0x267 [<02271c7c>] sock_sendmsg+0x88/0xa2 [<02145458>] buffered_rmqueue+0x1ec/0x1f6 [<0216177e>] rw_vm+0x30a/0x3a4 [<02161a71>] get_user_size+0x30/0x57 [<02272d89>] sys_sendto+0xc7/0xe2 [<0211b1e7>] do_page_fault+0x12b/0x442 [<02271a44>] sock_map_file+0x98/0x106 [<021512ea>] follow_page+0xf4/0xff [<0216177e>] rw_vm+0x30a/0x3a4 [<02273480>] sys_socketcall+0xeb/0x179 eth0: no IPv6 routers present From zachw at termdex.com Wed Mar 31 19:26:01 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:26:01 -0500 Subject: Call Trace on boot Message-ID: <1080761161.1917.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> I started getting these errors after upgrading to 2.6.4 out of the development tree. ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:09.0 (0014 -> 0017) sk98lin: Network Device Driver v6.23 (C)Copyright 1999-2004 Marvell(R). divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: 3Com Gigabit LOM (3C940) PrefPort:A RlmtMode:Check Link State ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:1943 in_atomic():0, irqs_disabled():1 Call Trace: [<02120144>] __might_sleep+0x80/0x8a [<02149cdf>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x1c/0x143 [<229953a6>] Vpd+0x26/0x801 [sk98lin] [<22993b03>] SkPnmiGetStruct+0x330/0x3de [sk98lin] [<0211e7eb>] __wake_up+0x8a/0xee [<2298d65b>] SkGeStats+0xef/0x29e [sk98lin] [<022800d7>] rtnetlink_fill_ifinfo+0x307/0x3c8 [<02280359>] rtmsg_ifinfo+0x2d/0x78 [<022808e6>] rtnetlink_event+0x35/0x38 [<02131709>] notifier_call_chain+0x17/0x30 [<022789b2>] dev_open+0xc5/0xcc [<02279d33>] dev_change_flags+0x48/0xee [<022b3de8>] devinet_ioctl+0x255/0x4a1 [<022b58b7>] inet_ioctl+0x69/0x9b [<022723c0>] sock_ioctl+0x2d7/0x38d [<02272808>] sys_socket+0x2a/0x3d [<02178662>] sys_ioctl+0x29a/0x33c eth0: network connection up using port A speed: 100 autonegotiation: yes duplex mode: full flowctrl: symmetric irq moderation: disabled scatter-gather: enabled Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:1943 in_atomic():0, irqs_disabled():1 Call Trace: [<02120144>] __might_sleep+0x80/0x8a [<02149cdf>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x1c/0x143 [<229953a6>] Vpd+0x26/0x801 [sk98lin] [<22993b03>] SkPnmiGetStruct+0x330/0x3de [sk98lin] [<2298d65b>] SkGeStats+0xef/0x29e [sk98lin] [<022800d7>] rtnetlink_fill_ifinfo+0x307/0x3c8 [<022801d3>] rtnetlink_dump_ifinfo+0x3b/0x56 [<0228b21e>] netlink_dump+0x145/0x4c9 [<02149dce>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x10b/0x143 [<0228b7a1>] netlink_dump_start+0x1ff/0x207 [<022804d6>] rtnetlink_rcv+0x12f/0x50a [<02280198>] rtnetlink_dump_ifinfo+0x0/0x56 [<022803a4>] rtnetlink_done+0x0/0x3 [<0228b00f>] netlink_data_ready+0x14/0x41 [<0228a83f>] netlink_unicast+0x31f/0x362 [<0211e6fe>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [<0211e6fe>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [<0228ae33>] netlink_sendmsg+0x258/0x267 [<02271c7c>] sock_sendmsg+0x88/0xa2 [<02145458>] buffered_rmqueue+0x1ec/0x1f6 [<0216177e>] rw_vm+0x30a/0x3a4 [<02161a71>] get_user_size+0x30/0x57 [<02272d89>] sys_sendto+0xc7/0xe2 [<0211b1e7>] do_page_fault+0x12b/0x442 [<02271a44>] sock_map_file+0x98/0x106 [<021512ea>] follow_page+0xf4/0xff [<0216177e>] rw_vm+0x30a/0x3a4 [<02273480>] sys_socketcall+0xeb/0x179 parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE] parport0: irq 7 detected lp0: using parport0 (polling). lp0: console ready NET: Registered protocol family 10 Disabled Privacy Extensions on device 0232f700(lo) IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device sit0 Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:1943 in_atomic():0, irqs_disabled():1 Call Trace: [<02120144>] __might_sleep+0x80/0x8a [<02149cdf>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x1c/0x143 [<229953a6>] Vpd+0x26/0x801 [sk98lin] [<22993b03>] SkPnmiGetStruct+0x330/0x3de [sk98lin] [<2298d65b>] SkGeStats+0xef/0x29e [sk98lin] [<022800d7>] rtnetlink_fill_ifinfo+0x307/0x3c8 [<022801d3>] rtnetlink_dump_ifinfo+0x3b/0x56 [<0228b21e>] netlink_dump+0x145/0x4c9 [<02149dce>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x10b/0x143 [<0228b7a1>] netlink_dump_start+0x1ff/0x207 [<022804d6>] rtnetlink_rcv+0x12f/0x50a [<02280198>] rtnetlink_dump_ifinfo+0x0/0x56 [<022803a4>] rtnetlink_done+0x0/0x3 [<0228b00f>] netlink_data_ready+0x14/0x41 [<0228a83f>] netlink_unicast+0x31f/0x362 [<0211e6fe>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [<0211e6fe>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [<0228ae33>] netlink_sendmsg+0x258/0x267 [<02271c7c>] sock_sendmsg+0x88/0xa2 [<02145458>] buffered_rmqueue+0x1ec/0x1f6 [<0216177e>] rw_vm+0x30a/0x3a4 [<02161a71>] get_user_size+0x30/0x57 [<02272d89>] sys_sendto+0xc7/0xe2 [<0211b1e7>] do_page_fault+0x12b/0x442 [<02271a44>] sock_map_file+0x98/0x106 [<021512ea>] follow_page+0xf4/0xff [<0216177e>] rw_vm+0x30a/0x3a4 [<02273480>] sys_socketcall+0xeb/0x179 eth0: no IPv6 routers present From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 31 21:16:15 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:16:15 -0500 Subject: Apt for Fedora2 test2 Message-ID: <406B351F.2080203@sbcglobal.net> Where do I find Apt that will work in Fedora2 test2 Thanks Jim Tate From vherva at viasys.com Wed Mar 31 19:30:08 2004 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:30:08 +0300 Subject: "FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0'" after xorg transition In-Reply-To: <20040329211012.GR20358@viasys.com> References: <20040328185055.GO20358@viasys.com> <20040329211012.GR20358@viasys.com> Message-ID: <20040331193008.GU20358@viasys.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:10:12AM +0300, you [Ville Herva] wrote: > > The problem was that ttmkfdir segfaults when I do "service xfs restart". In > fact, it segfaults when I run it in any truetype font directory, and as > fonts.scale is missing, no ttf fonts are available. > > I recreated the fonts.scale files by copying the ttf font dirs to a backup > snapshot directory from couple of days ago, chrooting there and running > ttmkfdir manually. After this, I get the ttf fonts back. > > I tried > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/backup-versioned/2004-03-19T052000/usr/lib:/backup-versioned/2004-03-19T052000/lib ttmkfdir > but it still crashes. Forgot to mention that I also tried LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/backup-versioned/2004-03-19T052000/usr/lib:/backup-versioned/2004-03-19T052000/lib /backup-versioned/2004-03-19T052000/usr/bin/ttmkfdir and verified with strace that it actually loads the libraries from /backup-versioned/2004-03-19T052000. Still crashes. However, when I replace /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/ with the older version, it works. The failing encodings directory is from xorg-x11-base-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9, the working is from XFree86-base-fonts-4.3.0-63. I'll file a bugzilla case. -- v -- v at iki.fi From greg at gulik.org Wed Mar 31 21:19:42 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:19:42 -0600 Subject: clock-applet dies when trying to change prefs In-Reply-To: <2b970f2bb4dd.2bb4dd2b970f@nyroc.rr.com> References: <2b970f2bb4dd.2bb4dd2b970f@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <406B35EE.7080207@gulik.org> I put that one in buzilla earlier today: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119600 mgalvin at nycap.rr.com wrote: > The clock-applet is on the panel but when I right click on the time and select preferences it dies and I get a error message pop up that just says "The Application "clock-applet" has quit unexpectedly." It then lets me restart the clock-applet which puts it back on the panel. Then the prosess repeats. I just want to set it to display the full date. Its just keeps dying when seleting Prefeneces... > > Anyone else have this prob., a fix? -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From vherva at viasys.com Wed Mar 31 20:20:26 2004 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:20:26 +0300 Subject: "FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0'" after xorg transition In-Reply-To: <20040331193008.GU20358@viasys.com> References: <20040328185055.GO20358@viasys.com> <20040329211012.GR20358@viasys.com> <20040331193008.GU20358@viasys.com> Message-ID: <20040331202026.GS18771@viasys.com> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:30:08PM +0300, you [Ville Herva] wrote: > > and verified with strace that it actually loads the libraries from > /backup-versioned/2004-03-19T052000. Still crashes. > > However, when I replace /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/ with the older > version, it works. The failing encodings directory is from > xorg-x11-base-fonts-0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9, the working is from > XFree86-base-fonts-4.3.0-63. > > I'll file a bugzilla case. Apparently new ttmkfdir-3.0.9-11 fixes this. (I did try yum update ttmkfdir before reporting, but apparently my mirror was not up to date. Sorry for the confusion.) -- v -- v at iki.fi From zhuweirong at tsinghua.org.cn Wed Mar 31 21:22:58 2004 From: zhuweirong at tsinghua.org.cn (Weirong Zhu) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:22:58 -0500 Subject: From Fedora Core 1 to 1.91: apt-get upgrade error: unsigned package(s) Message-ID: <406B36B2.9020409@tsinghua.org.cn> My current system is Fedora Core 1. I use apt-get to upgrade packages. my apt version is 0.5.15cnc5 Now I am trying to upgrade my system to Fedora Core 1.91 However, When I did the apt-get upgrade: I got bellow error informations: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 731 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 removed and 98 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/739MB of archives. After unpacking 254MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Checking GPG signatures... Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libselinux_1.8-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libattr_2.4.1-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libacl_2.2.7-4_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/hwdata_0.114-1_noarch.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/hotplug_3%3a2004%5f03%5f11-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/pcre-devel_4.5-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/pcre_4.5-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gpm_1.20.1-45_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/modutils_2.4.26-14_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/net-tools_1.60-24_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/initscripts_7.49-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/shadow-utils_2%3a4.0.3-21_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OKUnsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-minimal_1%3a6.2.403-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OKUnsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/GConf2-devel_2.6.0-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/GConf2_2.6.0-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/Guppi_0.40.3-18_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/binutils_2.15.90.0.1.1-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/a2ps_4.13b-37_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/arpwatch_14%3a2.1a13-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libbonobo-devel_2.6.0-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libbonobo_2.6.0-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gdb_6.0post-0.20040223.14_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OKUnsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-smp#2.6.4-1.300_2.6.4-1.300_i686.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/dhcp_1%3a3.0.1rc12-4_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/glibc-headers_2.3.3-20_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/fedora-logos_1.1.23-1_noarch.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-mime-data_2.4.1-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gtksourceview_0.9.2-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/less_382-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/net-snmp-utils_5.1.1-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/net-snmp-perl_5.1.1-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/net-snmp_5.1.1-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-source#2.6.4-1.300_2.6.4-1.300_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-utils_1%3a2.4-9.1.126_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libpcap_14%3a0.8.2-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/man_1.5m2-5_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/neon_0.24.4-4_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/netpbm-devel_10.19-7_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/netpbm-progs_10.19-7_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/netpbm_10.19-7_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/nscd_2.3.3-20_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/nss%5fldap_217-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/rp-pppoe_3.5-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/rpmdb-fedora_1%3a1.91-0.20040331_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-swat_0%3a3.0.3-1.pre1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-client_0%3a3.0.3-1.pre1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_0%3a3.0.3-1.pre1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-common_0%3a3.0.3-1.pre1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/slocate_2.7-8_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tcpdump_14%3a3.8.2-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-fonts_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-afm_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-dvips_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-latex_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-xdvi_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vnc_4.0-1.beta4.9_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vnc-server_4.0-1.beta4.9_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-common_1%3a6.2.403-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/anaconda-runtime_9.92-0.20040331011453_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/aumix_2.8-8_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/cdrdao_1.1.8-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/ftpcopy_0.6.2-6_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/glibc-profile_2.3.3-20_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gpm-devel_1.20.1-45_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer-tools_0.8.0-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/htdig_3.2.0b5-7_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-doc_2.6.4-1.300_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/sylpheed_0.9.10-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-doc_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-X11_1%3a6.2.403-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-enhanced_1%3a6.2.403-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/xinitrc_3.39-1_noarch.rpm: sha1 md5 OK E: Error: 73 unsigned package(s) 0 package(s)s with unknown signatures 0 package(s) with illegal/corrupted signatures --------------------------------------------------------------------- I have imported all the keys as I know. Any idea for the error I got? Thanks very much! my mirror-list now is : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rpm http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.91/i386 os updates rpm-src http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.91/i386 os updates # Fedora Core (Kernel.org, San Francisco California, USA) rpm http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 os updates rpm-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 os updates # Fedora Core (University of Hawaii Honolulu, Hawaii, USA) rpm http://download.fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 os updates rpm-src http://download.fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 os updates # Fedora Extras (University of Southern California, USA) rpm http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.91/i386 stable rpm-src http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.91/i386 stable # Fedora Extras (Kernel.org, San Francisco California, USA) rpm http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 stable rpm-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 stable # Macromedia (USA East, Rutgers University, New Jersey) rpm http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/macromedia/apt fedora/1 macromedia rpm-src http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/macromedia/apt fedora/1 macromedia --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From al.dunsmuir at sympatico.ca Wed Mar 31 21:23:34 2004 From: al.dunsmuir at sympatico.ca (Al Dunsmuir) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:23:34 -0500 Subject: Gnome desktop problems after FC2T2 install Message-ID: <20040331212335.BXLV7304.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@bucky> Greetings, I initially installed FC2T2, and ran into the severe problems with up2date (hang resolving dependencies, packages update incompletely, etc) that other folks have mentioned. I reinstalled, with format, and found a problem that I did not notice on my initial install. In the "Start Here" folder, the "Preferences" and "System Settings" incons are corrupt. When I try to run either, I get a "Invalid Actions Associated" icon. Both run fine when invoked via the "RedHat" takbar icon. Does anyone else have a similar problem? Al From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Mar 31 17:18:17 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:18:17 +0200 Subject: Today's dependency problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080753497.4755.45.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Troy, > Actually, the problem is that the new gimp package (gimp-2.0.0-5) > deletes that library and replaces it: > > # rpm -ql gimp | grep libgimp > /usr/lib/libgimp-2.0.so.0 > So the dependency is that libgimp-1.3.so.26 is being removed and will no > longer be available, not that it is currently not available. What version of gtkam is that? gtkam-0.1.10-2.1 only Requires gimp >= 1.2. That dependency should be satisfied by libgimp-2.0.so ... Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 31 21:41:11 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:41:11 -0500 Subject: From Fedora Core 1 to 1.91: apt-get upgrade error: unsigned package(s) In-Reply-To: <406B36B2.9020409@tsinghua.org.cn> References: <406B36B2.9020409@tsinghua.org.cn> Message-ID: <406B3AF7.6000504@sbcglobal.net> Weirong Zhu wrote: > > My current system is Fedora Core 1. > > I use apt-get to upgrade packages. > > my apt version is 0.5.15cnc5 > > Now I am trying to upgrade my system to Fedora Core 1.91 > > However, When I did the apt-get upgrade: I got bellow error informations: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 731 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 removed and 98 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B/739MB of archives. > After unpacking 254MB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y > Checking GPG signatures... > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libselinux_1.8-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libattr_2.4.1-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libacl_2.2.7-4_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/hwdata_0.114-1_noarch.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned > /var/cache/apt/archives/hotplug_3%3a2004%5f03%5f11-1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/pcre-devel_4.5-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/pcre_4.5-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gpm_1.20.1-45_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/modutils_2.4.26-14_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/net-tools_1.60-24_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/initscripts_7.49-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/shadow-utils_2%3a4.0.3-21_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OKUnsigned > /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-minimal_1%3a6.2.403-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 > OKUnsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/GConf2-devel_2.6.0-1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/GConf2_2.6.0-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/Guppi_0.40.3-18_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/binutils_2.15.90.0.1.1-2_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/a2ps_4.13b-37_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/arpwatch_14%3a2.1a13-1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libbonobo-devel_2.6.0-2_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libbonobo_2.6.0-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gdb_6.0post-0.20040223.14_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OKUnsigned > /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-smp#2.6.4-1.300_2.6.4-1.300_i686.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/dhcp_1%3a3.0.1rc12-4_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/glibc-headers_2.3.3-20_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/fedora-logos_1.1.23-1_noarch.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-mime-data_2.4.1-3_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gtksourceview_0.9.2-2_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/less_382-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/net-snmp-utils_5.1.1-1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/net-snmp-perl_5.1.1-1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/net-snmp_5.1.1-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned > /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-source#2.6.4-1.300_2.6.4-1.300_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned > /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-utils_1%3a2.4-9.1.126_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libpcap_14%3a0.8.2-1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/man_1.5m2-5_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/neon_0.24.4-4_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/netpbm-devel_10.19-7_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/netpbm-progs_10.19-7_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/netpbm_10.19-7_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/nscd_2.3.3-20_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/nss%5fldap_217-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/rp-pppoe_3.5-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned > /var/cache/apt/archives/rpmdb-fedora_1%3a1.91-0.20040331_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-swat_0%3a3.0.3-1.pre1_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned > /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-client_0%3a3.0.3-1.pre1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_0%3a3.0.3-1.pre1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned > /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-common_0%3a3.0.3-1.pre1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/slocate_2.7-8_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tcpdump_14%3a3.8.2-1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-fonts_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-afm_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-dvips_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-latex_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-xdvi_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vnc_4.0-1.beta4.9_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vnc-server_4.0-1.beta4.9_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-common_1%3a6.2.403-1_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned > /var/cache/apt/archives/anaconda-runtime_9.92-0.20040331011453_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/aumix_2.8-8_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/cdrdao_1.1.8-3_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/ftpcopy_0.6.2-6_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/glibc-profile_2.3.3-20_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gpm-devel_1.20.1-45_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer-tools_0.8.0-3_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/htdig_3.2.0b5-7_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-doc_2.6.4-1.300_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/sylpheed_0.9.10-2_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-doc_2.0.2-13_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-X11_1%3a6.2.403-1_i386.rpm: sha1 > md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-enhanced_1%3a6.2.403-1_i386.rpm: > sha1 md5 OK > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/xinitrc_3.39-1_noarch.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > E: Error: 73 unsigned package(s) > 0 package(s)s with unknown signatures > 0 package(s) with illegal/corrupted signatures > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > I have imported all the keys as I know. > > Any idea for the error I got? > > Thanks very much! > > > my mirror-list now is : > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > rpm http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.91/i386 > os updates > rpm-src http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ > fedora/1.91/i386 os updates > > # Fedora Core (Kernel.org, San Francisco California, USA) > rpm http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 os > updates > rpm-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 os > updates > > # Fedora Core (University of Hawaii Honolulu, Hawaii, USA) > rpm http://download.fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 os updates > rpm-src http://download.fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 os updates > > # Fedora Extras (University of Southern California, USA) > rpm http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.91/i386 > stable > rpm-src http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ > fedora/1.91/i386 stable > > # Fedora Extras (Kernel.org, San Francisco California, USA) > rpm http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 stable > rpm-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora fedora/1.91/i386 > stable > > # Macromedia (USA East, Rutgers University, New Jersey) > rpm http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/macromedia/apt fedora/1 macromedia > rpm-src http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/macromedia/apt fedora/1 macromedia > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Goto /etc/apt/apt.conf and take out the two // in front of //GPG-Check "false" ; and that will solve your problem. Jim Tate From mgalvin at nycap.rr.com Wed Mar 31 21:51:33 2004 From: mgalvin at nycap.rr.com (mgalvin at nycap.rr.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:51:33 -0500 Subject: Little Lang. Windows Everywhere Message-ID: <2d21852d2449.2d24492d2185@nyroc.rr.com> This seems to be fixed after updating various packages include the latest kde libs and such. ------------------------- M Galvin Lead Programmer Simplified Complexity http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mgalvin at nycap.rr.com Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:18 am Subject: Little Lang. Windows Everywhere > When starting various apps, these little windows saying "English" > keep popping up all over. When I quit the app, the word "english" > goes away but these little windows stay open all over and cluter up > the screen. One app this happens in is OO Writer. It also happens > when I open KDE apps while in GNOME. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jmatos at math.ist.utl.pt Wed Mar 31 21:54:15 2004 From: jmatos at math.ist.utl.pt (Joao Palhoto Matos) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:54:15 +0100 (WEST) Subject: failure mounting a PLEXTOR CD-R PX-320A In-Reply-To: <200403311240.42781.jose.pires@inov.pt> References: <200403311240.42781.jose.pires@inov.pt> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Jos? Nuno Coelho Sanarra Pires wrote: > > > > I have a PLEXTOR CD-R which seems to be correctly identified by the > > hardware browser as a PLEXTOR CD-R PX-320A which used to perform well > > but not frequently (I believe it worked with FC2T1). > > > > Currently mount attempts by root give > > > > [root at a213-22-64-242 root]# mount /dev/cdrom > > mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device > > > > /dev/cdrom is a symbolic link to /dev/hdc > > > > Line in /etc/fstab is > > /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 > > noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 and was freshly included by kudzu. > > > > Failure happens both with > > kernel-2.6.4-1.281 > > and > > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 > > > > This is a i386 FC2T2 system (I am not particularly fond of testing > > anaconda and burning CDs except for the occasional data backup so I got > > here all the way from RH9 using up2date / apt / yum and, hardly using CDs, > > not going through any kind of OS install and reading the list; I am > > mentioning this because lots of people on this list seem to be unaware of > > the possibility and become quite upset with failed CD boots for > > installation...). [...] For the record: this was auto inflicted. Removing ide-scsi from grub.conf solved my problems. Bypassing anaconda also causes problems... -- Jo?o Palhoto Matos http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~jmatos Departamento de Matem?tica Instituto Superior T?cnico Lisboa mailto:jmatos at math.ist.utl.pt From pmatilai at welho.com Wed Mar 31 21:57:44 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:57:44 +0300 Subject: From Fedora Core 1 to 1.91: apt-get upgrade error: unsigned package(s) In-Reply-To: <406B36B2.9020409@tsinghua.org.cn> References: <406B36B2.9020409@tsinghua.org.cn> Message-ID: <1080770264.21149.5.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 00:22, Weirong Zhu wrote: > My current system is Fedora Core 1. > > I use apt-get to upgrade packages. > > my apt version is 0.5.15cnc5 > > Now I am trying to upgrade my system to Fedora Core 1.91 > > However, When I did the apt-get upgrade: I got bellow error informations: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 731 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 removed and 98 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B/739MB of archives. > After unpacking 254MB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y > Checking GPG signatures... > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/libselinux_1.8-1_i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK [snip] > Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/xinitrc_3.39-1_noarch.rpm: sha1 md5 OK > E: Error: 73 unsigned package(s) > 0 package(s)s with unknown signatures > 0 package(s) with illegal/corrupted signatures > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > I have imported all the keys as I know. If you read the error message carefully the "problem" is that the packages aren't signed at all, as is usual for the development tree. Temporarily worked around with "-o rpm::gpg-check=false" or set in apt.conf to change permanently. - Panu - From efthym at gmx.net Wed Mar 31 21:52:30 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:52:30 -0500 Subject: Gnome desktop problems after FC2T2 install In-Reply-To: <20040331212335.BXLV7304.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@bucky> References: <20040331212335.BXLV7304.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@bucky> Message-ID: For me System-Settings only doesn't work. Preferences opens up just fine. No problems through the Redhat menus (except for the ones that ask for root password - still havent looked into that) On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:23:34 -0500, Al Dunsmuir wrote: > Greetings, > > I initially installed FC2T2, and ran into the severe problems with > up2date (hang resolving dependencies, > packages update incompletely, etc) that other folks have mentioned. > > I reinstalled, with format, and found a problem that I did not notice on > my initial install. > In the "Start Here" folder, the "Preferences" and "System Settings" > incons are corrupt. > When I try to run either, I get a "Invalid Actions Associated" icon. > Both run fine when > invoked via the "RedHat" takbar icon. > > Does anyone else have a similar problem? > Al > > > > From raghuangadi at yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 22:18:50 2004 From: raghuangadi at yahoo.com (Raghu Angadi) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:18:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: core 2 test 2: freetype fonts : no antialiasing? Message-ID: <20040331221850.68860.qmail@web41015.mail.yahoo.com> I just upgraded from test1 to test2. One thing I noticed is that font rendering seems to have changed in xterm, xemacs (apps that use traditional font system). I run xterm with 'courier new' and the font looks awful after the upgrade. No config differences that I know of. I have rerun mkfontsdir mkfontscale. Do you know what's going on? xterm command: xterm +sb -fn -*-courier new-medium-r-*-*-*-140-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* Chris Kloiber had replied saying this issue might have been discussed before but I could not find any clear solution. Thanks, Raghu. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From steve at rueb.com Wed Mar 31 22:21:00 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:21:00 -0600 Subject: Cipe? In-Reply-To: References: <406AEBD7.60204@rueb.com> Message-ID: <406B444C.4020805@rueb.com> Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > Not any longer. cipe has never been part of upstream kernel, and, in > the switch to 2.6, since we got IPSec, and given the security flaws > that exist in cipe, there was a decision to not add it to the 2.6 > kernel in FC. Unfortunately, IPSec is not compatible with Cipe, and > doesn't offer all of the same features (the one I miss the most is the > ability to establish secure channel with a network whose gateway has a > dynamically-assigned IP), but AFAIK the decision has already been > made. > (Sorry if this is a dup. My previous post seems to have been eaten.) Wow. So FC2 will be completely incompatible with RHEL and FC1 and all previous versions of RH Linux. No warning. No period of deprecation. No overlap of functionality to cushion migration. If that's not a statement that Fedora is not suitable for production use, I don't know what is. For from being a future possibility in extras, I would have thought lack of cipe support would be a showstopper bug. -Steve From alan at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 22:34:12 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:34:12 -0500 Subject: Cipe? In-Reply-To: <406B444C.4020805@rueb.com> References: <406AEBD7.60204@rueb.com> <406B444C.4020805@rueb.com> Message-ID: <20040331223412.GC17395@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 04:21:00PM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > For from being a future possibility in extras, I would have thought lack > of cipe support would be a showstopper bug. See the detailed security analysis of the CIPE protocol that was linked off places like lwn.net. Switching to IPSec is strongly recommended. You could fix CIPE, but it wouldnt be CIPE compatible if it the security design flaws were resolved. Alan From alan at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 22:36:10 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:36:10 -0500 Subject: Test 2 summary for Thinkpad 600 Message-ID: <20040331223610.GD17395@devserv.devel.redhat.com> IBM Thinkpad 600 Update from FC1 - CD boot only works with floppy drive attached (as with other stuff) so probably a BIOS issue - Had to use APM not ACPI Good: o Gnome desktop seems to work pretty well o Most general system stuff works well and its quite usable o Install hit a couple of problems but mostly worked o Wireless just worked Bad: o Lots of translations have not been merged despite being present for ages. In fact some of them have been translated for RH first, then their equivalent for Debian and Debian packages still get out first ** Other translators definitely need to check each app and file bugs if there translation is missing ** o Several translation master pot files appear stale on i18 cvs o Up2date still has bad bugs unfixed from before FC1, and added some new ones. Right now its been stuck installing system-config-httpd for an hour! (and I had to kill it) General: o Config tools still seem fairly flakey. Initial problems I've found: - Welsh translation missing from installer (didnt know Jeremy needed a table of data) - Due to another bug it failed to find swap so reported I didn't have enough swap and talked about 2.4 swap needs (#119607) - Screwed up partitioning. This is parted mess as fdisk is fine (not filed, several existing reports) - Translations missing from system-config-network (#119610) - Translations missing from system-config-authentication - System-config-authentication hangs mysteriously for several minutes with NIS but no NIS server, and wont even update UI [Couldnt find which package it is in bugzilla] - system-config-network spews errors on activating orinoco wireless but works - system-config-date: deprecation warning (#119612) - system-config-display: some translation bits missing, investigating with cy translators - up2date: still full of bugs dating back to FC1 and earlier, also missing cy and possibly other translations (#119615) - system-config-mouse: translations appear stale, checking - system-config-packages: translations missing. As with many system-* apps still has awful refresh handling problems. (#119618) - system-config-printer: translations missing (#119619) - system-config-proc: thinks its called sysctlcfg, weird fonts, weird ui and full of broken English like "Ripped of powertweak" [Powertweak btw is a trademark] (#119621) - system-config-services: some translations missing, investigating - system-config-services: spews errors (#119624) - system-config-services: missing glade file (#119622) - system-config-services: help button does not work (#119623) - system-config-time: deprecation warning as per config-date - system-config-users: translation missing (#119626) - system-logviewer: prints an error on startup (#119627) From steve at rueb.com Wed Mar 31 23:18:20 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:18:20 -0600 Subject: Cipe? In-Reply-To: <20040331223412.GC17395@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <406AEBD7.60204@rueb.com> <406B444C.4020805@rueb.com> <20040331223412.GC17395@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <406B51BC.6010103@rueb.com> Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 04:21:00PM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > >>For from being a future possibility in extras, I would have thought lack >>of cipe support would be a showstopper bug. > > > See the detailed security analysis of the CIPE protocol that was linked > off places like lwn.net. Switching to IPSec is strongly recommended. > So what was the story on CIPE during all the time that RH was pushing it as their vpn solution? Were these inherent deficiencies completely unknown until last September? Microsoft's "Get the Facts On Linux" site would have a field day with this if it hasn't already. :-( Also, in the interest of accuracy, I should correct what I said about FC2 being incompatible with RHEL. RHEL 3 products do indeed support ipsec, although RH9 and FC1 do not. -Steve From pmatilai at welho.com Wed Mar 31 23:21:49 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 02:21:49 +0300 Subject: Apt for Fedora2 test2 In-Reply-To: <406B351F.2080203@sbcglobal.net> References: <406B351F.2080203@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1080775309.20971.5.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 00:16, jim tate wrote: > Where do I find Apt that will work in Fedora2 test2 As a first-aid you can use the build from http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/fc2-test/ There are a couple of minor issues to be solved before that can go to fedora.us repository https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1429) but it should work for normal purposes. - Panu - From alan at redhat.com Wed Mar 31 23:34:54 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:34:54 -0500 Subject: Cipe? In-Reply-To: <406B51BC.6010103@rueb.com> References: <406AEBD7.60204@rueb.com> <406B444C.4020805@rueb.com> <20040331223412.GC17395@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <406B51BC.6010103@rueb.com> Message-ID: <20040331233454.GA8957@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 05:18:20PM -0600, Steve Bergman wrote: > So what was the story on CIPE during all the time that RH was pushing it > as their vpn solution? Were these inherent deficiencies completely > unknown until last September? Yes. Prior to that there had been other minor flaws and these had been worked on and fixed. Cryptography is a hard problem when it comes to getting it right (witness Microsoft PPTP for another example) Alan From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Mar 31 23:50:22 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:50:22 -0600 Subject: getting out of x In-Reply-To: <20040331203113.GC22538@server4.8080.it> References: <406AEB2E.4030108@stirlingbridge.com> <20040331101330.4271f3bc.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> <20040331203113.GC22538@server4.8080.it> Message-ID: <1080777022.2136.1.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 14:31, Rudi Chiarito wrote: > I think the original poster might have run into one of those situations > when X tries to start over and over - and over again. As soon as you > switch to one of the consoles and type a few characters, X switches to > vt7 again, just to fail once more and so on. Entering the username in > such cases gets annoying; entering the password borders on the > impossible or desperate. The quickest options are rebooting (preferably > in runlevel 1/3) or connecting through SSH/terminal. I am not the one who posted the original email, but I experienced exactly as you describe, 2-3 times now and it is annoying. Don't know what was/is causing it, maybe can try to view the X log(s) or something to see if there is anything there. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Mar 31 23:55:26 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:55:26 -0600 Subject: Test 2 summary for Thinkpad 600 In-Reply-To: <20040331223610.GD17395@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040331223610.GD17395@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1080777325.2136.5.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 16:36, Alan Cox wrote: > IBM Thinkpad 600 Update from FC1 Wow, now THAT is what I would call, good initial install/setup testing. Noticed what was good/bad, and gave bug reports on the stuff he tested/setup, maybe a few more that wasn't listed. If anyone wants to know how/what to do, I would say Alan just gave an example. (Think he's done this a time or two hehe) -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From steve at rueb.com Wed Mar 31 19:00:03 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:00:03 -0600 Subject: Cipe? In-Reply-To: References: <406AEBD7.60204@rueb.com> Message-ID: <406B1533.8060004@rueb.com> Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > Not any longer. cipe has never been part of upstream kernel, and, in > the switch to 2.6, since we got IPSec, and given the security flaws > that exist in cipe, there was a decision to not add it to the 2.6 > kernel in FC. Thanks. So basically, as far as VPN's go, Fedora is not compatible with RHEL, won't be for another year or two, and is incompatible with all previous versions of RedHat Linux. That seems a shame, since Fedora desktops and RHEL servers seems a logical combo for many companies. It seems like a better way to have handled it would have been to deprecate it in FC2 and remove it in FC3 rather than pulling the rug out from under everybody without warning. RH decided to make CIPE the standard instead of ipsec. It's not as though users knew this was coming and had a choice. We were forced into this position and then abandoned. -Steve From steve at rueb.com Wed Mar 31 22:26:04 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:26:04 -0600 Subject: Shrinking an LVM root filesystem? In-Reply-To: References: <406727EA.3040806@rueb.com> Message-ID: <406B457C.9070305@rueb.com> Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Yup. Boot into rescue mode, the make sure the sysimage root is not > mounted and then resize2fs && lvm resize. Since you're presumably > talking about FC2test, not FC1, you may have to lvm vgcfgbackup && lvm > vgcfgrestore to get the free PE count in the PV fixed (bug 112089, > fixed in LVM2 CVS but not yet in rawhide). > Thanks, Alexandre. -Steve From josh at hayden.ws Tue Mar 30 22:08:15 2004 From: josh at hayden.ws (Josh Hayden) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:08:15 -0600 Subject: "About Myself" giving "Unknown user." error Message-ID: <1080684494.2038.20.camel@cuaderno.lan> Main Menu > Preferences > About Myself gives "Unknown user." error when clicking the "Apply" button. Bugzilla #119493 Josh From steve at rueb.com Wed Mar 31 22:26:04 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:26:04 -0600 Subject: Shrinking an LVM root filesystem? In-Reply-To: References: <406727EA.3040806@rueb.com> Message-ID: <406B457C.9070305@rueb.com> Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Yup. Boot into rescue mode, the make sure the sysimage root is not > mounted and then resize2fs && lvm resize. Since you're presumably > talking about FC2test, not FC1, you may have to lvm vgcfgbackup && lvm > vgcfgrestore to get the free PE count in the PV fixed (bug 112089, > fixed in LVM2 CVS but not yet in rawhide). > Thanks, Alexandre. -Steve