XFree86 4.4.0

Lewt @ Linux Warcry lewt at warcry.com
Sat Mar 6 23:36:07 UTC 2004


Razvan Corneliu C.R. "d3vi1" VILT wrote:

>On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 13:30 -0800, Mark Fonnemann wrote:
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>>Hello-
>>
>>    i wonder (in the future) if there will now become two separate branches to
>>the XFree86 code of if a replacement will be developed. i heard of a
>>replacement to X-windows called y-windows; it supposedly is being written as a
>>modern, open source (GPL'd) window architecture, which is both modular and
>>network transparent among other things.i wonder if something like this will be
>>considered. i believe a working prototype exists but is in the early stages.
>>just a thought.
>>
>>mark.
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>Y-Windows is something completly different from XWindows.
>The problem now is what are the options:
>1) Keep going with XFree86 4.3 + selected patches from 4.4 written until
>the licence was changed. This seems like the most likely one.
>2) Add another X-Server. Here there are many options:
>     a) Xouvert (Unless they will continue to work with XFree86
>codebase, which means that the licence of their software will change)
>     b) XServ from freedesktop.org. Unfortunately this project is still
>in it's early stages of development. There are of course some very cool
>features, but it's not gonna be stable enough soon.
>     c) X11 from X.org. It's the base of most of the XServers currently
>existing. Unfortunately, there's a lot of work to do until it's a drop-
>ing replacement for XFree86.
>
>In the fedora development process they are trying to change all the deps
>from XFree86 provided ones to more generic ones, but this also takes
>time. The first thing that should be done, when changing an X-Server, is
>adding in it's provides something like X11-devel.
>Then all the appliactions that need the X11 headers (there are many
>trust me), should have their BUILD Requirements changed from XFree86-
>devel to X11-devel. This is only for the headers, but there are many
>others which are problematic.
>Just changing these in all the specs, should make a replacement of the
>X-Server easier, but, what are the options.
>In my opinion XFree86 4.3, or 4.4-RC1 (where it still has the old
>licence, I belive) should be good enough. Just patch that one.
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And actually I've been lurking in their IRC room for quite awhile.. 
backtracked a bit..

[16:11] <SirDibos> Odin-: we ARE folding into keithp's project.
[16:11] <SirDibos> Odin-: just not in a way that's obvious to outsiders.
[16:11] <SirDibos> Odin-: we'll be sharing drivers and modules.
[16:12] <SirDibos> Odin-: he is purposely doing the new extensions in a 
way that we can just drop them into Xouvert.
[16:12] <mrMister> SirDibos: are you sure about that?
[16:12] <SirDibos> Odin-: Xouvert and Xserver will eventually merge, 
once Xserver has all the drivers.

SirDibos AFAIK is one of the lead coders of Xouvert..  So it seems 
Xouvert and fd.org Xserve will eventually merge.

Maybe someone at redhat could prod them along a bit =)







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