Calming the BAD JOKE thread

Jean Francois Martinez jfm512 at free.fr
Tue Mar 30 19:59:41 UTC 2004



1)  This is a beta.  Right.  We expect things not working perfectly.
But we expect to be able to install (even  some glitches) and to boot.
If we aren't able to do this, we will be frustrated and we will be
unable to provide any help in hunting bugs.  another point is
that the people on this list care about Fedora's success and we don't
want Fedora getting a bad name due to bad releases or betas who are
in pre-pre-alpha stage (see below before you get defensive on this)

2) I think the reason myself and a lot of people haven't been able
to boot could be linked to recording software.  I had the same
problem with Mandrake, I solved it, I don't remember how, I think it
involved telling to xcdroast to record at a higher or lower capacity
than 80 minutes.  Since this is the xcdroast from Redhat 9 it is
probable that the iso images have been built with mastering utilities
who don't play well with recording at 80 minutes capacity: ie
the CDs are readable (some people have succeded in making a mediacheck
on CDs who didn't boot) but the boot record will not be detected by
the BIOS

3) The boot.iso image is in a state who is completely unacceptable
even for a beta.  In normal times this would not be a major problem
since most people would install from CD and would not see it.  But
since many people have been unable to boot from CD they have stumbled
upon it.   It does not make FC2T2 a joke (ie I withdraw my words about
it) but as I said above boot.iso is in inacceptable state


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Jean Francois Martinez <jfm512 at free.fr>





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