Working Firewire in FC2?

[Pedro Fernandes Macedo]

Bruce P. Morin wrote:

>Listen,
>
>I completely understand that the project is backed by RedHat and is
>community driven. Debian is also community driven and they have three paths,
>stable, testing and sid. With each of them, I have gotten most if not all
>common hardware to work without much effort, depending on the path.
>
>What I am saying here is that Firewire is not uncommon minority hardware,
>and for a stable release of anything not to support it is poor. How long has
>it been available?? 
>
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>
You really should search the net... A simple search on google pointed a 
archive of LKM showing this issue 
(http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0403.2/0058.html) . If 
you searched a bit deeper , you would find messages on fedora-devel-list 
and/or fedora-test-list (dont remmember exactly which one) saying that 
firewire was disabled because it wasnt functional and simply insmodding 
it caused the system to hang. On the same thread , someone said that as 
soon as the upstream code worked again , then they would enable it again 
in Fedora. This is the effect of the new policy of keeping in sync with 
upstream sources..  If you think fedora is doing the wrong thing , ok , 
go ahead and use suse or debian if they work for you... I'm not a 
developer , but I understand the choices made by the developers and 
support them. I know the pain of having to keep some software working 
perfectly and I can imagine the pain it is to keep track of something as 
big as the kernel when you have millions of extra patches....

>As for working for 0 dollars well, I guess if you want something that works
>out of the box, then Microsoft is the way to go. The old saying goes "You
>get what you pay for." Hopefully Microsoft doesn't follow this list,
>comments like that regarding the kernel, or better yet, "Sadly the code
>isn't as great." By David Jones, is fodder for the Microsoft propaganda
>machine.
>
>Another Love it or leave it attitude:
>
>"If Fedora doesn't fit your needs, then use another distribution"
>
>Critical comments, product comparisons, etc, help build better software.
>Unfortunately after looking at the amount of flames I received as well as
>the many others who bring forth Fedora's shortcomings only to receive such
>remarks really demonstrate why most users will NEVER have Linux on their
>desktop. 
>
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Sometimes comparisons should be carefull, specially in linux world , 
where love is a very strong feeling.. In one of your messages , you say 
"RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously as it has always been 
a struggle to get it working, and that's a shame as it is great 
technology." . Ok , if it never worked , where are the bug reports? If 
you really bothered to have it working, you could had filled bug reports 
so the developers could be made aware of the problems (you know , they 
dont know all the bugs that exist in the software they mantain.. if they 
knew, there would be no bugs , as all of them would be fixed)
Now , try to do this same kind of comparison with Suse or Debian users.. 
you'll be  flamed to death (more flamed than you've been here..) . I 
gave up on counting the number of times I've been flamed about stupid 
beliefs of debian and suse users (like "redhat dont have ipv6 support" 
... and the idiot who said that is a suse user and also happened to be 
my boss.. no wonder why I quit my job..)

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Pedro Macedo