to whom it concerns ...

[Jim Cornette]

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Do, den 18.11.2004 schrieb Jim Cornette um 3:49:
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>>Having discussions regarding failures on important hardware within the 
>>OS seem to be good subject matter for this list. I have 2000 messages 
>>from fedora-list at the moment (not read through yet) and would have 
>>missed the kernel panic issues with the Dell Optiplex. I have a computer 
>>of this type and wouldn't have seen this topic on the fedora-list. (Not 
>>upgraded to kernel version yet.
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> 
> I don't think this is in general a good idea. People tend too quickly
> that something is a bug. See the "X Windows apps crash when XForwarded
> over ssh." topic here from today and the one on the developers list "FC3
> DNS resolver issue". Ok, hard to handle when an exception is legitimate
> ;)
> 

At this time between release cycles, hitting rawhide and FC3 testing 
package issues is what I expect to see posted on this list. The 
occasional heading off disasters from the final release problems being 
posted on this list is very helpful. Either way the lower mail volume is 
very helpful.

> 
>>Also, a lot of developers are most likely limited in time to monitor the 
>>fedora-list due to high volume and would not have noticed this problem.
> 
> 
> To what I see, there are Red Hat developers following the users list.
> And they react if they see something occuring which may touch their
> work. Dave Jones is watching the list, Ulrich Drepper does reply, Jakub
> Jelinek, Daniel J. Walsh, Bill Nottingham, Nalin Dahyabhai, Tim Waugh,
> Harald Hoyer, David Malcolm, ... (shall not be a complete list).

This is good to see happen when a release has been newly released. It is 
sort of a post QA process, but with more users and more hardware used 
brings out unknown problems from the development cycle.
After slimming down the postings from the release list, I see more 
postings from developers post FC3 release. Hopefully, bugs will be less 
for FC4, due to trapping any renegade bugs in FC3.
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>>Jim
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> 
> My intention was just to raise the focus on the fact, that FC3 is stable
> now and people with usual user sorrows should recognize that testing
> time for FC3 is over and the users list the more appropriate place.
> Should just have been a pleasant reminder.

I'm greatful the release is now out the door. I'm not sure as to when 
testing development again would be relatively safe. I'll pass for now.
Thanks for the reminder regarding the list purpose.

Jim

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