production usage of test releases. (was abandoning FC3-T2)

joelbryan joelbryanster at gmail.com
Thu Oct 7 20:38:02 UTC 2004


The topic was about abandoning the test release.. I just thought that
I might encourage him  to volunteer if I say my anecdotes as a network
engineer. Call me a jackass, but I'm eager to report bugs, and I
really believe in this project.

So far, 1 got crushed on yum, so I've disabled updates service on the
remaining 4, I say this was a solid test release, and quite stable,
this was the 4th day running FC3T2, my only complain on FC2 (two) and
FC3T2 is that the ARP was stored on kernel space.. both doesn't have
arpd installed, I get "Neighbour overflow" everyday message on tty1,
IPv6 was still enabled by default, but I've never seen any pc running
on IPv6, and still the ~/Templates/ directory doesn't have contents on
it. Files copied from a CD where automatically set as Read-Only, then
I've deleted it, and when I emptied the Trash, it displays a message
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On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:13:03 -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz
<rpaiz at simpaticus.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 07:35 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
> > If no one attempted testing in a production environment, bugs caused by
> > high loads or corporate use would probably go undetected and propegate
> > to the final release.
> >
> 
> Entirely correct.
> 
> > On the bad side is possible data loss or corruption or downing a company
> >   from functioning. (True live ops would not be wise)
> >
> > I would not suggest production use of test releases, but simulated tests
> > in production-like conditions seems fair practice to me.
> >
> 
> However, allow me to quote from joelbryan's first post:
> 
> "Hey, I've installed five FC3T2 on our University server, that is used
> by over 3000 PCs as a DHCP, SQUID, Firewall, Zebra Router, and a
> Gateway.............. If this doesn't work, I'm srewed man..."
> 
> That sounds like "true live ops" to me, not "simulated tests in
> production-like conditions" or "software R&D". Installing a test release
> to show management what it looks like is great... putting 3,000 client
> boxes behind it and depending on it for critical services is just
> stupid.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --
> Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz at simpaticus.com>
> 
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