From cochranb at speakeasy.net Wed Sep 1 00:01:32 2004 From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:01:32 -0400 Subject: C++ compiler problems with FC2 In-Reply-To: <1093993979.4965.2.camel@T7.linux> References: <1093906066.6811.73.camel@T7.linux> <1093914246.4122.18.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> <1093934661.6811.78.camel@T7.linux> <1093991033.3090.2.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> <1093993979.4965.2.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1093996892.3090.7.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> > To be honest, that shouldn't really have made a damn of difference - > unless you're using some flag or other when compiling (such as - > pendantic). > > TTFN > > Paul >From 'man gcc': -pedantic Issue all the warnings demanded by strict ISO C and ISO C++; reject all programs that use forbidden extensions, and some other programs that do not follow ISO C and ISO C++. For ISO C, follows the version of the ISO C standard specified by any -std option used. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 1 01:12:59 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:12:59 -0400 Subject: Intel i810 graphics In-Reply-To: <1093972540.3717.7.camel@LORDLINUX.GLOBAL.SHSYSTEM.ORG> References: <1093972540.3717.7.camel@LORDLINUX.GLOBAL.SHSYSTEM.ORG> Message-ID: <4135221B.8010004@sbcglobal.net> Mark Guzzo wrote: > Hello all, > > I've just updated my FC3-T1 and now in X the screen/apps do not get > refreshed unless I mouse over the area. I tried different resolutions, > but the problem is still there. > > For now I changed the driver in xorg.confg from "i810" to "vesa" and > everything works great even if it's at 800x600 :-( > > [guzmar at LORDLINUX ~]$ rpm -q xorg-x11 > xorg-x11-6.7.99.903-1 > > Should I bugzilla this ? > > Mark > > http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 is a bug that I filed for a really slow X, lockup and with needing to put a mouse across the menu items etc to see bits and pieces of programs. There is a driver that I compiled from the source rpms using target i686. If this doesn't help you out, then grab the CDROM installation driver I uploaded on bug below. http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1086 Or you could try to apply the patch provided in http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1084 Any solution would be to file a bug against the i810 driver. Either jump on a bug report already filed or add to one with a similar nature and build. If you do decide to try the binaries that I uploaded, rename the original driver that is currently installed in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers to reflect refresh problem. (i810_drv.o.mouse-refresh or something) Then copy the driver from bug 1086 to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o - When you change your xorg.conf back to i810, you might be 3D and higher resolution capable until the next version of X with the fix comes in. When you install the next version of X, the copied and replaced driver will be replaced by the newer i810 driver. So to be safe, save the working driver copy somewhere safe or vesa agan and stay until the working release is available from the repository. Good luck and misery has company regarding a bumbed i810 driver. Jim From notting at redhat.com Wed Sep 1 01:45:10 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:45:10 -0400 Subject: New kudzu test updates for FC1 and FC2 Message-ID: <20040901014510.GA28868@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> This update reworks the network device detection in kudzu, fixing various reported bugs, among them #108178, #111639, #112837, #120584, #120988, #122983, and #124765. If no new regressions are posted, this will be pushed live by Tuesday, September 3. --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ fecb12d2dec11f4a563ce105b75baf47 SRPMS/kudzu-1.1.36.3-1.src.rpm 95d8210cfcdc6f18dabd886ac7ca06ae x86_64/kudzu-1.1.36.3-1.x86_64.rpm 9dedc825c538c0fc24eac2410accfb36 x86_64/kudzu-devel-1.1.36.3-1.x86_64.rpm e3c61d98a323e41f40fc2ebf8c00bcdc x86_64/debug/kudzu-debuginfo-1.1.36.3-1.x86_64.rpm d21120943cf168135655ab0b090f33b3 i386/kudzu-1.1.36.3-1.i386.rpm 97ae20f26adbadd39980ee4a854be449 i386/kudzu-devel-1.1.36.3-1.i386.rpm 7b56d41513a2ab540600187616c323c9 i386/debug/kudzu-debuginfo-1.1.36.3-1.i386.rpm --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ d4bddcf0642ca5ce5395db42aca40205 SRPMS/kudzu-1.1.68.2-1.src.rpm 78b3311d8899cbb82abd1966f513232a x86_64/kudzu-1.1.68.2-1.x86_64.rpm be9e499dda11c7c64bf88b8a7a9933c6 x86_64/kudzu-devel-1.1.68.2-1.x86_64.rpm 6712cf0ea2acf1ac6069e1d2ffc86dd4 x86_64/debug/kudzu-debuginfo-1.1.68.2-1.x86_64.rpm 8b756f69a035b946e23af14520855b3e i386/kudzu-1.1.68.2-1.i386.rpm 97429801907a848da96cc57824d87924 i386/kudzu-devel-1.1.68.2-1.i386.rpm 1b353518033e838c16d16c3af7ec1773 i386/debug/kudzu-debuginfo-1.1.68.2-1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh at redhat.com Wed Sep 1 09:14:55 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:14:55 +0100 Subject: New kudzu test updates for FC1 and FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040901014510.GA28868@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040901014510.GA28868@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040901091455.GS2177@redhat.com> On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 09:45:10PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > This update can be downloaded from: > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ Mirrors for this location are at: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-testing-fc2 so you will probably need to adjust /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources. 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Hope this helps if anyone else falls fowl of the above before it gets fixed (soon I hope) From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 1 13:06:50 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:06:50 +0100 Subject: Missing in action... Message-ID: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, libgal-2.2.so.0, libsoup-2.2.so.6, libgal-a11y-2.2.so.0 are missing, so ev and ev-data-server can't be updated. Is this a rebuild problem or have they just not hit rawhide yet? TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 1 13:08:35 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 09:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: up2date problem. In-Reply-To: <20040901125716.35762.qmail@web86506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20040901125716.35762.qmail@web86506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2306.12.29.16.103.1094044115.squirrel@whooper.org> DAVID BENTLEY said: > Yesterday evening/early today I ran up2date to pickup > the latest updates to FC3 Test 1 and noticed that it prompted me to update > up2date before doing any further updates which I did but found that I was > then being offered FC2 updates. > > The solution is to uninstall up2date components HUH? The solution is to point the /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file to point to rawhide. Might need to be filed as a bug so it gets fixed, but it isn't that big of a deal. -- William Hooper From marguz at ameritech.net Wed Sep 1 14:05:33 2004 From: marguz at ameritech.net (Mark Guzzo) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 09:05:33 -0500 Subject: Intel i810 graphics In-Reply-To: <4135221B.8010004@sbcglobal.net> References: <1093972540.3717.7.camel@LORDLINUX.GLOBAL.SHSYSTEM.ORG> <4135221B.8010004@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094047533.3919.1.camel@LORDLINUX.GLOBAL.SHSYSTEM.ORG> > > Or you could try to apply the patch provided in > > http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1084 > > Good luck and misery has company regarding a bumbed i810 driver. > > Jim > > Thanks, That worked :-) -- Mark Guzzo Citrix / Linux Admin Sinai Health Systems guzmar at sinai.org M A R G U Z at A M E R I T E C H dot N E T From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 1 14:28:52 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 09:28:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Missing in action... In-Reply-To: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, PFJ wrote: > Hi, > > libgal-2.2.so.0, libsoup-2.2.so.6, libgal-a11y-2.2.so.0 are missing, so > ev and ev-data-server can't be updated. Is this a rebuild problem or > have they just not hit rawhide yet? yum -y --exclude=libgal2 --exclude=libsoup upgrade The problem is - these 2 packages are new - but ev/ev-data-server is built against the older version - hence then need a rebuild. BTW: I notice the following error in today's update: -- hal-cups-utils 100 % done 18/120 Stopping cups: [ OK ] Starting cups: [ OK ] mkinitrd 100 % done 19/120 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.23804: line 1: 5655 Segmentation fault /sbin/modprobe loop 2>/dev/null >/dev/null kernel 100 % done 20/120 -- And there is a new version of yum (2.1) based on the new metadata format. It doesn't do 'clean' yet - so I reverted to the older 2.0.7 http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-August/msg01154.html Satish From a.t.meinen at chello.nl Wed Sep 1 15:05:45 2004 From: a.t.meinen at chello.nl (Tino Meinen) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:05:45 +0200 Subject: New kudzu test updates for FC1 and FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040901014510.GA28868@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040901014510.GA28868@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094051145.5233.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> Op wo 01-09-2004, om 03:45 schreef Bill Nottingham: > This update reworks the network device detection in kudzu, fixing various > reported bugs, among them #108178, #111639, #112837, #120584, #120988, > #122983, and #124765. > > If no new regressions are posted, this will be pushed live by Tuesday, > September 3. Hmm, in what year is that? In 2004, September 3 falls on a friday. Tino From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 15:45:15 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 11:45:15 -0400 Subject: Missing in action... In-Reply-To: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <604aa79104090108454759ad55@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:06:50 +0100, PFJ wrote: > Hi, > > libgal-2.2.so.0, libsoup-2.2.so.6, libgal-a11y-2.2.so.0 are missing, so > ev and ev-data-server can't be updated. Is this a rebuild problem or > have they just not hit rawhide yet? You know whats really funny... i did yum update today and libsoup installed for me without any warnings rpm -q evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-0.0.98-1 rpm -q --requires evolution-data-server libsoup >= 2.1.13 libsoup-2.2.so.6 rpm -q --whatprovides libsoup-2.2.so.6 no package provides libsoup-2.2.so.6 rpm -q libsoup libsoup-2.2.0-1 rpm -q --provides libsoup libsoup-2.2.so.7 libsoup = 2.2.0-1 So my question is... why did 'yum update' NOT scream at me about the dep conflict? Seems yum installed the new libsoup when it should not have and left my already installed evolution-data-server with a broken dependancy chain. -jef From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 1 15:46:56 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:46:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: kernel/mkinitrd udpate broken? [Was: Missing in action...] (fwd) Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > BTW: I notice the following error in today's update: > > -- > hal-cups-utils 100 % done 18/120 > Stopping cups: [ OK ] > Starting cups: [ OK ] > mkinitrd 100 % done 19/120 > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.23804: line 1: 5655 Segmentation fault /sbin/modprobe loop 2>/dev/null >/dev/null > kernel 100 % done 20/120 > -- Ok - something causes the newly installed kernel (538) not to boot. I get: --- Red Hat nash version 4.1.9 starting insmod: error inserting '/lib/ext3.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module ERROR /bin/insmod exited abnormally! mount: error 19 mounting ext3 mount: error 2 mounting none switchroot: mount failed: 22 umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! --- And I get similar error wth kerne-535 installed which was installed nash-2.1.8.. I'm able to boot to kernel-533 (which was working fine before the updates/reboot) - but now I get a bunch of ext3 errors. And 'lsmod' shows only module loaded are 'ext3' and 'jbd' (no networking - so I can't cut/paste) Something is seriously broken.. Satish From ellson at research.att.com Wed Sep 1 16:07:29 2004 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 12:07:29 -0400 Subject: kernel/mkinitrd udpate broken? [Was: Missing in action...] (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4135F3C1.9060608@research.att.com> Satish Balay wrote: > > >On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > > > >>BTW: I notice the following error in today's update: >> >>-- >>hal-cups-utils 100 % done 18/120 >>Stopping cups: [ OK ] >>Starting cups: [ OK ] >>mkinitrd 100 % done 19/120 >>/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.23804: line 1: 5655 Segmentation fault /sbin/modprobe loop 2>/dev/null >/dev/null >>kernel 100 % done 20/120 >>-- >> >> > >Ok - something causes the newly installed kernel (538) not to boot. I >get: > >--- >Red Hat nash version 4.1.9 starting >insmod: error inserting '/lib/ext3.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module >ERROR /bin/insmod exited abnormally! >mount: error 19 mounting ext3 >mount: error 2 mounting none >switchroot: mount failed: 22 >umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 >Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! >--- > >And I get similar error wth kerne-535 installed which was installed >nash-2.1.8.. > >I'm able to boot to kernel-533 (which was working fine before the >updates/reboot) - but now I get a bunch of ext3 errors. > >And 'lsmod' shows only module loaded are 'ext3' and 'jbd' (no >networking - so I can't cut/paste) > >Something is seriously broken.. > >Satish > > In addition to backing down to kernel-533, I also backed out to initscripts-7.73-1 and module-init-tools-3.0-2 (not sure that both are broken, but one of them cleared up the module issues.) I did not back out mkinitrd. I had to back out to xorg-x11-6.7.0-7.2 because of the i810 graphics issue. And I backed out to metacity-2.8.4-1 because my desktop was still funky. (not 100% sure about this last being a real problem.) Basically, there are multiple breakages in the latest updates. Don't lose your old rpms. John From notting at redhat.com Wed Sep 1 16:17:38 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 12:17:38 -0400 Subject: New kudzu test updates for FC1 and FC2 In-Reply-To: <1094051145.5233.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040901014510.GA28868@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1094051145.5233.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040901161738.GA1986@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Tino Meinen (a.t.meinen at chello.nl) said: > Op wo 01-09-2004, om 03:45 schreef Bill Nottingham: > > This update reworks the network device detection in kudzu, fixing various > > reported bugs, among them #108178, #111639, #112837, #120584, #120988, > > #122983, and #124765. > > > > If no new regressions are posted, this will be pushed live by Tuesday, > > September 3. > Hmm, in what year is that? > In 2004, September 3 falls on a friday. Woops, was looking at the wrong Month. Tuesday the 7th. Bill From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Sep 1 17:37:42 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 13:37:42 -0400 Subject: Missing in action... In-Reply-To: <604aa79104090108454759ad55@mail.gmail.com> References: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <604aa79104090108454759ad55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1094060261.20288.2.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 11:45, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:06:50 +0100, PFJ wrote: > > Hi, > > > > libgal-2.2.so.0, libsoup-2.2.so.6, libgal-a11y-2.2.so.0 are missing, so > > ev and ev-data-server can't be updated. Is this a rebuild problem or > > have they just not hit rawhide yet? > > You know whats really funny... > i did yum update today and libsoup installed for me without any warnings > rpm -q evolution-data-server > evolution-data-server-0.0.98-1 > rpm -q --requires evolution-data-server > libsoup >= 2.1.13 > libsoup-2.2.so.6 > rpm -q --whatprovides libsoup-2.2.so.6 > no package provides libsoup-2.2.so.6 > rpm -q libsoup > libsoup-2.2.0-1 > rpm -q --provides libsoup > libsoup-2.2.so.7 > libsoup = 2.2.0-1 > > So my question is... why did 'yum update' NOT scream at me about the > dep conflict? > Seems yum installed the new libsoup when it should not have and left > my already installed evolution-data-server with a broken dependancy > chain. This looks like a weird rawhide-ism. I can't find a failure in the depresolution process in yum. -sv From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 1 17:47:23 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 18:47:23 +0100 Subject: Missing in action... In-Reply-To: <1094060261.20288.2.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> References: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <604aa79104090108454759ad55@mail.gmail.com> <1094060261.20288.2.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: <1094060844.4710.0.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > So my question is... why did 'yum update' NOT scream at me about the > > dep conflict? > > Seems yum installed the new libsoup when it should not have and left > > my already installed evolution-data-server with a broken dependancy > > chain. > > This looks like a weird rawhide-ism. I can't find a failure in the > depresolution process in yum. It's "one of those things". Me, I'm more worried about the mkinitrd problems being reported. Anyone know what's causing the muck up? TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tjb at unh.edu Wed Sep 1 17:51:03 2004 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 13:51:03 -0400 Subject: Missing in action... In-Reply-To: <1094060844.4710.0.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <604aa79104090108454759ad55@mail.gmail.com> <1094060261.20288.2.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <1094060844.4710.0.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1094061063.9034.11.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 18:47 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > > So my question is... why did 'yum update' NOT scream at me about the > > > dep conflict? > > > Seems yum installed the new libsoup when it should not have and left > > > my already installed evolution-data-server with a broken dependancy > > > chain. > > > > This looks like a weird rawhide-ism. I can't find a failure in the > > depresolution process in yum. > > It's "one of those things". > > Me, I'm more worried about the mkinitrd problems being reported. Anyone > know what's causing the muck up? > > TTFN > > Paul module-init-tools is busted. Luckily yum doesn't implement clean yet so if you go to /var/cache/yum/development/packages and install module-init-tools-3.0-2 (rpm -Uvh --oldpackage), you can get a little further. Then you run into /dev/input/mice missing and X not starting. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From abdul_mateenkhatri at gawab.com Wed Sep 1 18:13:09 2004 From: abdul_mateenkhatri at gawab.com (Abdul Mateen) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 18:13:09 GMT Subject: Intel i810 graphics In-Reply-To: <4135221B.8010004@sbcglobal.net> References: <1093972540.3717.7.camel@LORDLINUX.GLOBAL.SHSYSTEM.ORG> <4135221B.8010004@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040901181309.14689.qmail@gawab.com> Jim Cornette writes: Hi., If you get error some of there types like: no screen found. Try the following try to configure the Xorg again. by the command 'xorgconfig' and give the resolution of the monitor means verticle hertz and horizontal hertz from the manual provided by your hardware manufacture. > Mark Guzzo wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I've just updated my FC3-T1 and now in X the screen/apps do not get >> refreshed unless I mouse over the area. I tried different resolutions, >> but the problem is still there. >> >> For now I changed the driver in xorg.confg from "i810" to "vesa" and >> everything works great even if it's at 800x600 :-( >> >> [guzmar at LORDLINUX ~]$ rpm -q xorg-x11 >> xorg-x11-6.7.99.903-1 >> >> Should I bugzilla this ? >> >> Mark >> >> > > http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 > > is a bug that I filed for a really slow X, lockup and with needing to put > a mouse across the menu items etc to see bits and pieces of programs. > There is a driver that I compiled from the source rpms using target i686. > > If this doesn't help you out, then grab the CDROM installation driver I > uploaded on bug below. > > http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1086 > > Or you could try to apply the patch provided in > > http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1084 > > Any solution would be to file a bug against the i810 driver. Either jump > on a bug report already filed or add to one with a similar nature and > build. > > If you do decide to try the binaries that I uploaded, rename the original > driver that is currently installed in > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers > to reflect refresh problem. (i810_drv.o.mouse-refresh or something) > Then copy the driver from bug 1086 to > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o - When you change your xorg.conf > back to i810, you might be 3D and higher resolution capable until the next > version of X with the fix comes in. > > When you install the next version of X, the copied and replaced driver > will be replaced by the newer i810 driver. So to be safe, save the working > driver copy somewhere safe or vesa agan and stay until the working release > is available from the repository. > > > Good luck and misery has company regarding a bumbed i810 driver. > > Jim > > > > --------------------------------------------- Free POP3 Email from www.Gawab.com Sign up NOW and get your account @gawab.com!! From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed Sep 1 18:18:46 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:18:46 -0400 Subject: Missing in action... In-Reply-To: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1094062726.13763.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 14:06 +0100, PFJ wrote: > Hi, > > libgal-2.2.so.0, libsoup-2.2.so.6, libgal-a11y-2.2.so.0 are missing, so > ev and ev-data-server can't be updated. Is this a rebuild problem or > have they just not hit rawhide yet? There was a rebuild problem with libgal2; I'm investigating. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 1 19:20:49 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:20:49 +0100 Subject: Missing in action... In-Reply-To: <1094061063.9034.11.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <604aa79104090108454759ad55@mail.gmail.com> <1094060261.20288.2.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <1094060844.4710.0.camel@T7.linux> <1094061063.9034.11.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1094066449.4710.5.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > module-init-tools is busted. Luckily yum doesn't implement clean yet so > if you go to /var/cache/yum/development/packages and install > module-init-tools-3.0-2 (rpm -Uvh --oldpackage), you can get a little > further. Then you run into /dev/input/mice missing and X not starting. Is that the one you fix in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? If it is, can some kind soul please remind me what I need to do get that to work - it's been ages since moving to xorg-x11 and I can't remember. TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From pp at ee.oulu.fi Wed Sep 1 19:21:01 2004 From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:21:01 +0300 Subject: kernel/mkinitrd udpate broken? [Was: Missing in action...] (fwd) In-Reply-To: <4135F3C1.9060608@research.att.com> References: <4135F3C1.9060608@research.att.com> Message-ID: <20040901192101.GA6872@ee.oulu.fi> On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 12:07:29PM -0400, John Ellson wrote: > >I'm able to boot to kernel-533 (which was working fine before the > >updates/reboot) - but now I get a bunch of ext3 errors. > > > >And 'lsmod' shows only module loaded are 'ext3' and 'jbd' (no > >networking - so I can't cut/paste) > > > >Something is seriously broken.. export GAWK_NO_DFA=1 mkinitrd -v -f /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.538.img 2.6.8-1.538 reboot and enjoy :-) -- Pekka Pietikainen From acx4 at hotmail.com Wed Sep 1 19:56:18 2004 From: acx4 at hotmail.com (Abe Cure) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:56:18 +0000 Subject: Cannot get Linksys WUSB12 working in FC2 Message-ID: Has anyone tried setting this up, from what I read it uses the PrizmII chipset, but when I choose that in the Network config, it does not see it. USB seems to be working fine. Thanks, AC _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From katzj at redhat.com Wed Sep 1 20:12:07 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:12:07 -0400 Subject: kernel/mkinitrd udpate broken? [Was: Missing in action...] (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20040901192101.GA6872@ee.oulu.fi> References: <4135F3C1.9060608@research.att.com> <20040901192101.GA6872@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: <1094069527.3967.0.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 22:21 +0300, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 12:07:29PM -0400, John Ellson wrote: > > >I'm able to boot to kernel-533 (which was working fine before the > > >updates/reboot) - but now I get a bunch of ext3 errors. > > > > > >And 'lsmod' shows only module loaded are 'ext3' and 'jbd' (no > > >networking - so I can't cut/paste) > > > > > >Something is seriously broken.. > > export GAWK_NO_DFA=1 > mkinitrd -v -f /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.538.img 2.6.8-1.538 > > reboot and enjoy :-) Or, alternately, downgrade back to gawk 3.1.3-9. 3.1.4 has been pulled for now (bug is 131498) Jeremy From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 1 21:27:01 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 16:27:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Missing in action... In-Reply-To: <1094066449.4710.5.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094044010.12253.37.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <604aa79104090108454759ad55@mail.gmail.com> <1094060261.20288.2.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <1094060844.4710.0.camel@T7.linux> <1094061063.9034.11.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1094066449.4710.5.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > module-init-tools is busted. Luckily yum doesn't implement clean yet so > > if you go to /var/cache/yum/development/packages and install > > module-init-tools-3.0-2 (rpm -Uvh --oldpackage), you can get a little > > further. Then you run into /dev/input/mice missing and X not starting. > > Is that the one you fix in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? If it is, can some kind > soul please remind me what I need to do get that to work - it's been > ages since moving to xorg-x11 and I can't remember. Changing /dev/input/mice to /dev/mouse0 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf appears to fix this problem for me (with kernel-538) . Don't know if this is a temporary breakage or a permanant change. I get the gdm login but when attempting login - it goes into a blank (blue) screen and does nothing (mouse is active) There were a bunch of other messages on the screen with pcmcia_cs - when booted to init 3, without rhgb. cs: warning: no high memory space available! cs: unable to map card memory! cs: unable to map card memory! cs: unable to map card memory! But my pcmcia network card works. And the following (with both init 3 & 5): -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied I'm reverting to kernel-533 (I had earlier backrolled initscripts & module-init-tools) Satish From Fred.New at microlink.ee Wed Sep 1 21:51:03 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 00:51:03 +0300 Subject: kernel/mkinitrd udpate broken? [Was: Missing in action...] Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B5384@eemail1.microlink.lan> On Wed 9/1/2004 at 7:07 PM, John Ellson wrote: > In addition to backing down to kernel-533, I also backed out to > initscripts-7.73-1 and module-init-tools-3.0-2 > (not sure that both are broken, but one of them cleared up the module issues.) > > I did not back out mkinitrd. > > I had to back out to xorg-x11-6.7.0-7.2 because of the i810 graphics issue. > > And I backed out to metacity-2.8.4-1 because my desktop was still funky. > (not 100% sure about this last being a real problem.) > > Basically, there are multiple breakages in the latest updates. > > Don't lose your old rpms. With the last set of updates, I saw a lot of segfaults from modprobe, so I backed out module-init-tools: rpm -Uvh --oldpackage module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm Everything else seems to be running okay so far: kernel-2.6.8-1.538 xorg-x11-6.7.99.903-2 selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.8-1 Fred -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3075 bytes Desc: not available URL: From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 1 23:23:18 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 23:23:18 +0000 Subject: module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm Message-ID: <20040901232318.M12540@all-the-johnsons.co.uk> -- Get your free @ukpost.com account now http://www.ukpost.com/ Hi, For some reason best known to my computer, /var/cache/yum/development/packages is completely empty, so I'm left with a machine which can't be connected to the net for fixes. I've seen a few suggestions for getting things to work by using module-init-tools-3.0-2. Unfortunately, I don't have this RPM. Can someone please make it available (upload it somewhere)? I've googled around to see if I can find the package anywhere, but nothing is around. Thanks TTFN Paul (using Lynx from his laptop, connected to his son's machine as neat seems to be broken in the current set of releases as well) From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 1 23:55:41 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:55:41 +0100 Subject: module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm In-Reply-To: <20040901232318.M12540@all-the-johnsons.co.uk> References: <20040901232318.M12540@all-the-johnsons.co.uk> Message-ID: <1094082941.3527.1.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > Can someone please make it available (upload it somewhere)? Thank goodness for fr.rpmfind.net! Now, the question which needs to be asked is how did something as bust as module-init-tools and the current xorg manage to escape? TTFN Paul (using the 532 kernel, about to see if he can get his printer working) -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Sep 2 00:04:29 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 01:04:29 +0100 Subject: Oddity when removing kernel versions Message-ID: <1094083469.3527.3.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Not sure if this is a broken script problem, but when I remove a kernel, I'm still finding directories in /lib/modules for the kernel versions I've removed. Is this normal and if it is, why are they still there? TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From perbj at stanford.edu Thu Sep 2 00:09:55 2004 From: perbj at stanford.edu (Per Bjornsson) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:09:55 -0700 Subject: Oddity when removing kernel versions In-Reply-To: <1094083469.3527.3.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094083469.3527.3.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1094083795.2782.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 17:04, Paul wrote: > Not sure if this is a broken script problem, but when I remove a kernel, > I'm still finding directories in /lib/modules for the kernel versions > I've removed. > > Is this normal and if it is, why are they still there? Are there any files left in the directories? Did you install any external drivers? If the directory has been changed at all since it was installed, I believe that RPM does not install it. Certainly I've seen the /lib/modules/ directories stay around, only inhabited by my wireless drivers that I installed myself. I think that the directory should be removed if it is completely untouched since install. Cheers, Per -- Per Bjornsson Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 02:41:50 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:41:50 -0400 Subject: restarting haldaemon service makes nautilus open windows for all mounted filesystems Message-ID: <604aa79104090119415b7b57a8@mail.gmail.com> Anyone else seeing this with the latest round of updates from rawhide? service haldaemon restart with gnome+nautilus running makes nautilus open windows for all mounted filesystems? -jef From pgsery at swcp.com Thu Sep 2 03:50:43 2004 From: pgsery at swcp.com (Paul Sery) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 21:50:43 -0600 Subject: Disabling module loading Message-ID: <41369893.8050404@swcp.com> Fedora Core 1 allowed module loading to be disabled by running echo off > /proc/modules. This doesn't appear to work in FC2.90 and I haven't been able to find any references to its removal. Does anyone know the status of this feature? From train at voicenet.com Thu Sep 2 06:02:15 2004 From: train at voicenet.com (Herbert Rutledge) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 02:02:15 -0400 Subject: restarting haldaemon service makes nautilus open windows for all mounted filesystems In-Reply-To: <604aa79104090119415b7b57a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa79104090119415b7b57a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1094104935.6730.27.camel@trilon> On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 22:41 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Anyone else seeing this with the latest round of updates from rawhide? > > service haldaemon restart > with gnome+nautilus running makes nautilus open windows for all > mounted filesystems? No. But I do get a dialog asking if I want to import pictures. -train From pri.rhl3 at iadonisi.to Thu Sep 2 06:05:51 2004 From: pri.rhl3 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 02:05:51 -0400 Subject: lots of brokenness (was: Re: module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm) Message-ID: <1094105151.23164.51.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 19:55, Paul wrote: [snip] > Now, the question which needs to be asked is how did something as bust > as module-init-tools and the current xorg manage to escape? A lot seems busted lately. Kernels 532, 533, and 535 all paniced on me eventually, but I've had no chance to bugzilla anything due some other busy-ness (fighting the good fight against the whole Sender-ID patent crap). Seems that udev isn't starting in the right place, or something related to that. I'm getting permission errors on /dev/null (!), non-existant /dev/microcode and other madness. I think I finally have a stable kernel, but I'll need to let it run (really, limp along with the other problems it has) for a while to see how stable the kernel is. I downgraded initscripts and it didn't solve my (seemingly) udev problems. Anyone know if installing module-init-tools-3.0-2 will fix this? If so, I guess I'll have to hunt down a copy. As an upside, once I get X up and running on my i810, it seems to work just fine. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu Sep 2 07:01:24 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 09:01:24 +0200 Subject: yum - checkbootloader Message-ID: <4136C544.4000700@gmx.de> hi, fc3t1 yesterdays/todays update # rpm -q yum yum-2.1.0-1 can i ignore this error? # yum -y --exclude=libsoup\* update [...] Completing update for dev - 269/271 Completing update for libxml2-devel - 270/271 Completing update for gnome-desktop - 271/271 Kernel Updated/Installed, checking for bootloader Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 375, in main File "/usr/share/yum/pkgaction.py", line 588, in kernelupdate ImportError: No module named checkbootloader -- shrek-m From arjanv at redhat.com Thu Sep 2 07:05:20 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 09:05:20 +0200 Subject: Disabling module loading In-Reply-To: <41369893.8050404@swcp.com> References: <41369893.8050404@swcp.com> Message-ID: <1094108720.2823.3.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 05:50, Paul Sery wrote: > Fedora Core 1 allowed module loading to be disabled by running echo off > > /proc/modules. This doesn't appear to work in FC2.90 and I haven't > been able to find any references to its removal. Does anyone know the > status of this feature? right now it doesn't exist exactly like that; what you can do is restrict module loading only to modules that are GPG signed at the time the kernel was built. 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Considering how much Seth said the code base changed (and particularly that making a newly installed kernel the default isn't implemented yet), it's no surprise that since yum was updated while it was running, that it bombed out when it tried to update the bootloader. Just edit /etc/grub.conf manually and change the 'default=' line to the appropriate value, or just select the right kernel during boot boot and then remove the old kernel(s). But be prepared for some possible brokenness that some of us have been experiencing ;-). -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu Sep 2 07:17:23 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 09:17:23 +0200 Subject: yum - checkbootloader In-Reply-To: <1094108759.23164.74.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <4136C544.4000700@gmx.de> <1094108759.23164.74.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <4136C903.5030509@gmx.de> Paul Iadonisi wrote: >Very likely, yes. The rpm for yum was part of that update (it was for >me) and it looks like the same error I got. Considering how much Seth >said the code base changed (and particularly that making a newly >installed kernel the default isn't implemented yet), it's no surprise >that since yum was updated while it was running, that it bombed out when >it tried to update the bootloader. Just edit /etc/grub.conf manually >and change the 'default=' line to the appropriate value, or just select >the right kernel during boot boot and then remove the old kernel(s). >But be prepared for some possible brokenness that some of us have been >experiencing ;-). > thanks :-) -- shrek-m From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Thu Sep 2 07:45:08 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:45:08 +0200 Subject: cfengine test updates for FC1 and FC2 (and RHL9, 8.0) Message-ID: <20040902094508.6e923b8f.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1980 A version upgrade of "cfengine" fixes a buffer overflow vulnerability and lots of bugs. Testing and confirmation from any users, who still use cfengine, is needed. 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Found neat is currently broken on the laptop, so can't fix the DNS (dunno why, my machines can't pick the DNS up from the router, so have to be set statically - but go to my Dads, and it's just picked up!) 2. ssh to my son's FC2 box 3. lynx to my the kernel archives to get hold of rusty's module-init- tools. 4. ftp from son's box to laptop 5. find laptop's CDRW is not recognised by k3b (it's a dual DVD player, CDRW). dig out zip drive which has been not touched in years. plug in, load imm.o, mount the disc. worked. 6. copied m-i-t to the disc, transfered to the main box. main box doesn't recognise the zip drive, so had to mount by hand 7. compiled m-i-t, make links, make, make install, reboot. 8. okay, that's a bit better, but still no network and the desktop is messed up (home directory has vanished as has most of my menu icons) 9. connect to the laptop to find m-i-t-3.0-2 as an rpm. 10. download to son's machine, ftp to laptop, laptop to zip, zip to other box. 11. removed all traces of the self compiled version. 12. rpm -ihv --oldpackage m-i-t-3.0-2.* 13. reboot 14. wild cheers that I've managed to get my box online. 15. cursed the air blue that I'd wasted an hour or so fixing this problem and wondering how xorg-x11 and the other problems in yesterday's updates had evaded RHs usually very high QC. I know I'm running rawhide, but to reduce me to XP SP2 standards is a bit much. Odd thought appears, maybe RH are trying to make me thankful for having such a usually utterly amazingly reliable system by showing me how bad the quality can be on the side of the borg... I'm not going to update the laptop until the xorg and m-i-t problems are sorted. Can't afford to lose another night's worth of development as I did yesterday. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tjb at unh.edu Thu Sep 2 10:27:19 2004 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 06:27:19 -0400 Subject: lots of brokenness (was: Re: module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm) In-Reply-To: <1094105151.23164.51.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <1094105151.23164.51.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <1094120839.5971.4.camel@neuromancer.bakerconsulting.com> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 02:05 -0400, Paul Iadonisi wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 19:55, Paul wrote: > > [snip] > > > Now, the question which needs to be asked is how did something as bust > > as module-init-tools and the current xorg manage to escape? > > A lot seems busted lately. Kernels 532, 533, and 535 all paniced on > me eventually, but I've had no chance to bugzilla anything due some > other busy-ness (fighting the good fight against the whole Sender-ID > patent crap). > Seems that udev isn't starting in the right place, or something > related to that. I'm getting permission errors on /dev/null (!), > non-existant /dev/microcode and other madness. I think I finally have a > stable kernel, but I'll need to let it run (really, limp along with the > other problems it has) for a while to see how stable the kernel is. > I downgraded initscripts and it didn't solve my (seemingly) udev > problems. Anyone know if installing module-init-tools-3.0-2 will fix > this? If so, I guess I'll have to hunt down a copy. > As an upside, once I get X up and running on my i810, it seems to work > just fine. > -- > -Paul Iadonisi > Senior System Administrator > Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist > Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. > GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets > > Keeping/downgrading-to/or-other-wise-somehow-installing udev-030-10 and module-init-tools-3.0-2 did the trick for me. My system booted and seems to be running normally. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Thu Sep 2 12:05:55 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 05:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: lots of brokenness (was: Re: module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm) In-Reply-To: <1094105151.23164.51.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <20040902120555.96464.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> >Seems that udev isn't starting in the right place, or something >related to that. I'm getting permission errors on /dev/null (!), >non-existant /dev/microcode and other madness. What errors are you seeing? On the screen or the logs? SE Linux related? This is too vague to go looking through the code for. Thanks, -Steve Grubb _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush From michel.salim at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 13:53:49 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:53:49 -0500 Subject: restarting haldaemon service makes nautilus open windows for all mounted filesystems In-Reply-To: <604aa79104090119415b7b57a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa79104090119415b7b57a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <883cfe6d040902065316cbcb5e@mail.gmail.com> Yep, everytime hal is updated that happens. A bit annoying but harmless, I suppose. On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:41:50 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Anyone else seeing this with the latest round of updates from rawhide? > > service haldaemon restart > with gnome+nautilus running makes nautilus open windows for all > mounted filesystems? > > -jef > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- Michel Salim ??? http://salimma.livejournal.com From pri.rhl3 at iadonisi.to Thu Sep 2 14:07:02 2004 From: pri.rhl3 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:07:02 -0400 Subject: lots of brokenness (was: Re: module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm) In-Reply-To: <20040902120555.96464.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040902120555.96464.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1094134022.23164.78.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 08:05, Steve G wrote: > >Seems that udev isn't starting in the right place, or something > >related to that. I'm getting permission errors on /dev/null (!), > >non-existant /dev/microcode and other madness. > > What errors are you seeing? On the screen or the logs? SE Linux related? This is > too vague to go looking through the code for. Apologies. I'm well aware the my post was vague. I haven't had a chance to get the details. But one of significance is several lines printed of the form (not exact): Permission denied: "/dev/null" I'll try to get better details to the list later today. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Thu Sep 2 14:17:27 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 15:17:27 +0100 Subject: Sound card dissappeared? Message-ID: <1094134647.18532.4.camel@datacc> I have a ISA sound card cs4237 which has worked fine through FC2 tests thorogh to FC3 until yesterday. Then I had an X crash, and since then it has dissapeared according to the system modprobe shows "no such device" I have tried booting with stock kernel running snddevices script disabling all other isa/serial devices (manually/in bios) anyone got any ideas thanks From NaveR at fidelitytech.com Thu Sep 2 16:31:08 2004 From: NaveR at fidelitytech.com (Nave, Ronald) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:31:08 -0400 Subject: latest update to FC3-test1 hoses the system Message-ID: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023936@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> I just finished updating my system this morning and now find that modprobe generates a segmentation fault when I boot up As a result I can not load drivers for CD rom , floppy disk , ethernet card , or USB memory sticks . The system boots up , but there is no way to load new files onto the system to undo the mess I have gotten into. It looks like I may have to reformat and start over. From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 2 16:34:33 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:34:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: latest update to FC3-test1 hoses the system In-Reply-To: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023936@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> References: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023936@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Nave, Ronald wrote: > I just finished updating my system this morning and now find that modprobe > generates a segmentation fault when I boot up > > As a result I can not load drivers for CD rom , floppy disk , ethernet card > , or USB memory sticks . > > The system boots up , but there is no way to load new files onto the system > to undo the mess I have gotten into. > > It looks like I may have to reformat and start over. There were 3 (or more?) threads yesterdy on this topic - and some on fedora-devel-list. You might want to browse the archives. Summary: If you are able to boot - insmod should continue to work - so you might be able to insmod the network module (or floppy) and do the package downgrades. Satish From katzj at redhat.com Thu Sep 2 16:35:25 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 12:35:25 -0400 Subject: lots of brokenness (was: Re: module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm) In-Reply-To: <1094105151.23164.51.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <1094105151.23164.51.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <1094142925.11672.1.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 02:05 -0400, Paul Iadonisi wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 19:55, Paul wrote: > Seems that udev isn't starting in the right place, or something > related to that. I'm getting permission errors on /dev/null (!), > non-existant /dev/microcode and other madness. I think I finally have a > stable kernel, but I'll need to let it run (really, limp along with the > other problems it has) for a while to see how stable the kernel is. > I downgraded initscripts and it didn't solve my (seemingly) udev > problems. Anyone know if installing module-init-tools-3.0-2 will fix > this? If so, I guess I'll have to hunt down a copy. initscripts 7.76 is needed for udev-030-11 or later or so Jeremy From lsomike at futzin.com Thu Sep 2 16:41:07 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:41:07 -0500 Subject: latest update to FC3-test1 hoses the system In-Reply-To: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023936@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> References: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023936@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> Message-ID: <200409021141.07468.lsomike@futzin.com> On Thursday 02 September 2004 11:31, Nave, Ronald wrote: > I just finished updating my system this morning and now find that > modprobe generates a segmentation fault when I boot up > > As a result I can not load drivers for CD rom , floppy disk , > ethernet card , or USB memory sticks . > > The system boots up , but there is no way to load new files onto > the system to undo the mess I have gotten into. > > It looks like I may have to reformat and start over. Several of us have run into the same problem. What worked for me was to boot up, navigate to the /var/cache/yum/development/packages directory, rollback to the previous version of module-init-tools: rpm -Uvh --oldpackage module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm and in my case I rebooted into the earlier kernel 2.6.8-1.535 and everything came back alive. I haven't looked around to see if there's still any broken glass and scratches but I'm back to where I can play again. Regards, Mike Klinke From mhaney at interactsys.com Thu Sep 2 17:06:51 2004 From: mhaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 13:06:51 -0400 Subject: Up2date wierdness Message-ID: <1094144811.2790.50.camel@marius.interactsys.com> I re-installed FC3t1 since I hosed the old copy on a machine of mine and everything was peachy-keen until after a reboot for some updated packages, my up2date applet is pointing now to the FC2 released repository. yum.conf is correct and everything looks fine, but I can't get it to point back to the development repository. What's going on here? -------------------------------------- Mark Haney Network Administrator InterAct Public Safety Systems mhaney at interactsys.com Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 13:04:58 up 4:55, 2 users, load average: 2.24, 1.99, 1.98 From twaugh at redhat.com Thu Sep 2 18:07:18 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:07:18 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: vnc-4.0-5 Message-ID: <20040902180718.GC2177@redhat.com> Please post feedback, be it positive (even "works for me") or negative, as comments to this bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131612 Please test these packages. If they work for you, I want to hear about it. If they don't work for you, I want to hear about it. Give me feedback. I will not make this update official unless I get plenty of positive feedback about it. In addition to the URL indicated below, Fedora Core 2 Test Update packages can be found at the mirrors indicated in this file: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-testing-fc2 This URL can be put in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources like this: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/$ARCH yum-mirror updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-testing-fc2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-280 2004-09-02 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : vnc Version : 4.0 Release : 5 Summary : A remote display system. Description : Virtual Network Computing (VNC) is a remote display system which allows you to view a computing 'desktop' environment not only on the machine where it is running, but from anywhere on the Internet and from a wide variety of machine architectures. This package contains a client which will allow you to connect to other desktops running a VNC server. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This package updates VNC to the latest released version, 4.0. It also fixes several bugs not fixed upstream. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri Aug 27 2004 Tim Waugh 4.0-5 - Built for Fedora Core 2. * Wed Aug 25 2004 Tim Waugh 4.0-4 - Apply and enable Kristian H?gsberg's --use-fb patch. * Mon Aug 02 2004 Tim Waugh - Fixed vnc-via patch (bug #128940). * Thu Jun 24 2004 Tim Waugh 4.0-3 - 4.0. - No longer need hotspot patch. - Add sparc patch from bug #126382. * Tue Jun 15 2004 Elliot Lee - rebuilt * Tue Jun 01 2004 Tim Waugh 4.0-1.beta5.6 - Turn ppc64 builds on again. * Tue Jun 01 2004 Tim Waugh 4.0-1.beta5.5 - Exclude ppc64 until the build machine is fixed. - Undo last vnc.def change to get vnc.so back. * Fri May 28 2004 Tim Waugh 4.0-1.beta5.4 - Further vnc.def fix. - Fix cursor handling for hotspots outside the bounding rectangle. * Thu May 27 2004 Tim Waugh 4.0-1.beta5.3 - Fix ppc64 build. - Fix debuginfo package. - Another fix for REGION_INIT usage. * Wed May 26 2004 Tim Waugh 4.0-1.beta5.2 - Switch to xorg-x11 (bug #119530). * Thu May 20 2004 Tim Waugh 4.0-1.beta5.1 - 4.0beta5. - Removed compat, f8 and crash patches. - Fixed via patch now that NULL is not a valid parameter default. - Updated gcc34 patch. --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 63388477a34d7394d843e8239027a485 SRPMS/vnc-4.0-5.src.rpm 6c0eb16a90577477b77657f004a9178c x86_64/vnc-4.0-5.x86_64.rpm 873dc82c4d124b2f5ef3501d2a4ddf04 x86_64/vnc-server-4.0-5.x86_64.rpm 47cbfa87cb1fa909b46830c8ce72aafd x86_64/debug/vnc-debuginfo-4.0-5.x86_64.rpm cb5323ee0dc258973c51ceb2ee2158fe i386/vnc-4.0-5.i386.rpm 37f797815da1bc89f6d24a815a5cccfe i386/vnc-server-4.0-5.i386.rpm d8e56258808031b5e6705b09121cc6ad i386/debug/vnc-debuginfo-4.0-5.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mhaney at interactsys.com Thu Sep 2 18:23:28 2004 From: mhaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 14:23:28 -0400 Subject: Rawhide repository Message-ID: <1094149407.2790.60.camel@marius.interactsys.com> Somehow, when upgrading to the latest development packages, my /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file got hosed. Can someone tell me the proper URL for the rawhide repository? -------------------------------------- Mark Haney Network Administrator InterAct Public Safety Systems mhaney at interactsys.com Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 14:22:28 up 6:13, 2 users, load average: 1.98, 1.79, 1.66 From bartk at clara.co.uk Thu Sep 2 19:04:39 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 20:04:39 +0100 Subject: after last update... few questions Message-ID: <41376EC7.6000203@clara.co.uk> Well, please first accept the fact that I'm thick as two short planks stuck together with thick glue. and now if someone could answer following Q's: 1. nightly tree supposed to be instalable. How? 2. Devel tree is supposed to be fast moving, last update ( however disasterous ) was more than 48 hours ago and since then no updates are downloadable.... the kernel, dev, init-tools disaster MUST have been by now realised by the devel team. 3. How, if possible can I create DVD/CD form nightly tree in order to install FC3 test 1 without resorting to going back to original DVD + yum update? I'm not trying to rise anybodys blood pressure If I did I appologise. Yes, I didn't look through the list archives.... Reasons for this post: Well my FC3 system is down with now go on any of the mentioned work-arounds, HD form FC is now connected to my XP system and I'm wondering how I can access it to move required rpm's to downgrade/upgrade it to a working versions. For unknown reasons I can't mount floppy nor DVD drive on any of last 3 kernels. I accept that FC3 is a test 1 version and I do not have any important files there, not exacly true but if I do a clean install I won't exacly break down and cry, still it would be nice to make it work without resorting to a clean install. Now I'm ready to have mud thrown at me .... still any help would be appreciated. TIA Bart From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Thu Sep 2 19:34:32 2004 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?DAVID=20BENTLEY?=) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 20:34:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Rawhide repository In-Reply-To: <1094149407.2790.60.camel@marius.interactsys.com> Message-ID: <20040902193432.74558.qmail@web86504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> See my solution for this problem under the heading up2date problem further down the archive and also for now DON'T update module-init-tools as this causes another headache (ie having to revert to the original from the CD with the following command :- rpm -Uhv --oldpackage module-init-tools-3.0-1.i386.rpm info from a previous post by Mike Klinke Mark Haney wrote: Somehow, when upgrading to the latest development packages, my /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file got hosed. Can someone tell me the proper URL for the rawhide repository? -------------------------------------- Mark Haney Network Administrator InterAct Public Safety Systems mhaney at interactsys.com Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 14:22:28 up 6:13, 2 users, load average: 1.98, 1.79, 1.66 -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu Sep 2 19:35:49 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 15:35:49 -0400 Subject: Evolution in Rawhide Message-ID: <1094153749.17076.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> There was a mixup with the various Evolution packages in Rawhide; the latest dependencies (libsoup and libgal2) made it into Rawhide earlier today, but the upper packages in the stack didn't (evolution-data- server, evolution-webcal, evolution, and evolution-connector). So, for one day only, if you're running Rawhide Evolution, and are seeing problems about libgal2 and libsoup when updating, you can find the higher-level packages here: http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm/rolling-rolling-rolling/ This _should_ all be fixed tonight, and Rawhide should work again normally for the Evolution stuff tomorrow; sorry about the breakage. Dave Malcolm From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 19:48:15 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:48:15 -0400 Subject: after last update... few questions In-Reply-To: <41376EC7.6000203@clara.co.uk> References: <41376EC7.6000203@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <604aa79104090212481c623c0d@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 20:04:39 +0100, Bart Kalita wrote: > Well, > > please first accept the fact that I'm thick as two short planks stuck > together with thick glue. > > and now if someone could answer following Q's: > > 1. nightly tree supposed to be instalable. How? boot.iso network install... assuming the development tree is self-consistent and there wasn't a problem building it. boot.iso should be in the images directory in the development tree. Assuming of course, things didnt break. > > 2. Devel tree is supposed to be fast moving, last update ( however > disasterous ) was more than 48 hours ago and since then no updates are > downloadable.... the kernel, dev, init-tools disaster MUST have been > by now realised by the devel team. things break.. its development...even the process by which new packages build breaks from time to time. This making trying to do installs from the development tree really really fun. The hard part is knowing if the nightly tree is self-consistent and thus worth attempting to run a network install against. There might be a clever way to flag each nightly tree as self-consistent or not in an automated way so that people working with the tree can make an informed decision about whether to try to do a fresh install from it. -jef"I hope someone clever reads this paragraph and responds with a clever 'this tree is self-consistent' script for the build process"spaleta From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 2 19:55:41 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 14:55:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: after last update... few questions In-Reply-To: <41376EC7.6000203@clara.co.uk> References: <41376EC7.6000203@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Bart Kalita wrote: > Well, > > please first accept the fact that I'm thick as two short planks stuck together > with thick glue. > > and now if someone could answer following Q's: > > 1. nightly tree supposed to be instalable. How? I would think booting off the boot.iso and doing the netowrk install should work (never tired it) ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/images/boot.iso > 2. Devel tree is supposed to be fast moving, last update ( however disasterous > ) was more than 48 hours ago and since then no updates are downloadable.... > the kernel, dev, init-tools disaster MUST have been by now realised by the > devel team. No updates yet - so 1. above won't fix your problem. > > Reasons for this post: Well my FC3 system is down with now go on any of the > mentioned work-arounds, HD form FC is now connected to my XP system and I'm > wondering how I can access it to move required rpm's to downgrade/upgrade it > to a working versions. For unknown reasons I can't mount floppy nor DVD drive > on any of last 3 kernels. Well something that wasn't mentioned yet is - using knoppix to boot up the machine (presumably this can get the network working) - and transfer the required rpm files - and downgrade. Maybe the the fedora install disk can also do this in the recovery mode.. Satish From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 2 20:11:07 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:11:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: after last update... few questions In-Reply-To: References: <41376EC7.6000203@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > > No updates yet - so 1. above won't fix your problem. > I've been a slow mirror. I see the the updates now. There isn't a BuildSystem mail on fedora-devel-list yet.. Hm.. I see updated module-init-tools but not gawk.. Anyone already try this set? :) Satish ------------ Dependencies Resolved [i] dbus-x11.i386 0:0.22-4 - dep [i] kernel.i686 0:2.6.8-1.541 - user [i] libsilc.i386 0:0.9.12-7 - dep [u] ImageMagick.i386 0:6.0.6.2-1 - user [u] cpp.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] desktop-printing.i386 0:0.10.2-2 - user [u] dvd+rw-tools.i386 0:5.21.4.10.8-2 - user [u] e2fsprogs.i386 0:1.35-9.5 - user [u] e2fsprogs-devel.i386 0:1.35-9.5 - user [u] evolution.i386 0:1.5.94.1-1 - user [u] evolution-data-server.i386 0:0.0.99-1 - user [u] finger.i386 0:0.17-25 - user [u] gaim.i386 1:0.82.1-2 - user [u] gamin.i386 0:0.0.9-1 - user [u] gamin-devel.i386 0:0.0.9-1 - user [u] gcc.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] gcc-c++.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] gcc-g77.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] gcc-gnat.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] gcc-java.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] gnome-icon-theme.noarch 0:2.7.90-2 - user [u] gnome-vfs2.i386 0:2.7.92-2 - user [u] gnome-vfs2-smb.i386 0:2.7.92-2 - user [u] hal-cups-utils.i386 0:0.5.2-1 - user [u] howl.i386 0:0.9.6-2 - user [u] howl-libs.i386 0:0.9.6-2 - user [u] hwdata.noarch 0:0.125-1 - user [u] iiimf-libs.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 - user [u] iiimf-libs-devel.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 - user [u] initscripts.i386 0:7.77-1 - user [u] iproute.i386 0:2.6.9-1 - user [u] isdn4k-utils.i386 0:3.2-17.p1.1 - user [u] libf2c.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] libgal2.i386 2:2.2.0-2 - user [u] libgcc.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] libgcj.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] libgcj-devel.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] libgnat.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] libselinux.i386 0:1.17.7-1 - user [u] libselinux-devel.i386 0:1.17.7-1 - user [u] libsoup.i386 0:2.2.0-1 - user [u] libstdc++.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] libstdc++-devel.i386 0:3.4.1-10 - user [u] libuser.i386 0:0.51.9-1 - user [u] libuser-devel.i386 0:0.51.9-1 - user [u] libwmf.i386 0:0.2.8.3-4 - user [u] module-init-tools.i386 0:3.1-0.pre5.2 - user [u] psacct.i386 0:6.3.2-31 - user [u] selinux-policy-strict.noarch 0:1.17.8-2 - user [u] selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 0:1.17.8-2 - user [u] sendmail.i386 0:8.13.1-2 - user [u] udev.i386 0:030-14 - user [u] up2date.i386 0:4.3.29-6.0 - user [u] up2date-gnome.i386 0:4.3.29-6.0 - user [u] usbutils.i386 0:0.11-6 - user [u] util-linux.i386 0:2.12a-6 - user [u] vim-common.i386 1:6.3.020-1 - user [u] vim-enhanced.i386 1:6.3.020-1 - user [u] vim-minimal.i386 1:6.3.020-1 - user [u] vte.i386 0:0.11.11-3 - user [u] wget.i386 0:1.9.1-13 - user [u] xinitrc.noarch 0:4.0.4-1 - user [u] xscreensaver.i386 1:4.18-3 - user [u] yum.noarch 0:2.1.1-1 - user Is this ok [y/N]: From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Sep 2 20:12:42 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:12:42 +0100 Subject: Is it safe to update yet? Message-ID: <1094155962.4089.14.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Given the barrage of problems with yesterdays updates, does anyone know if the packages have been fixed and put into rawhide? I don't want to update and spend another couple of hours fixing things! TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Sep 2 20:27:00 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:27:00 +0100 Subject: Python or yum broken? Message-ID: <1094156820.5013.3.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I've just tried a few times to do a yum check-update and all I'm getting is Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 135, in ? main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 62, in main result, resultmsgs = base.doCommands() TypeError: unpack non-sequence Is this yum or python being silly. I've just used yum to update evolution, so it's hard to say! yum clean does something similar. TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Sep 2 20:29:17 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:29:17 -0400 Subject: after last update... few questions In-Reply-To: References: <41376EC7.6000203@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <20040902202917.GA502@wolves.durham.nc.us> On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 02:55:41PM -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Bart Kalita wrote: > > > 1. nightly tree supposed to be instalable. How? > > I would think booting off the boot.iso and doing the netowrk install > should work (never tired it) > ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386/images/boot.iso Works well, I do it lots of times in testing anaconda and the install process. > > 2. Devel tree is supposed to be fast moving, last update ( however disasterous > > ) was more than 48 hours ago and since then no updates are downloadable.... > > the kernel, dev, init-tools disaster MUST have been by now realised by the > > devel team. > > No updates yet - so 1. above won't fix your problem. Should come tomorrow morning if things aren't broken too badly. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 2 20:29:41 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:29:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: yum 2.1 & new metadata Message-ID: With the new metadata format - yum appears to download 3M of metadata for rawhide - eachtime yum in invoked. --- % yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 944 kB 00:03 developmen: ################################################## 3523/3523 --- I'm guessing the 3523 referes to 3523 kB - and probably referes to repodata/filelists.xml.gz (and perhaps other files) Isn't this a lot more datatansfer than the older format? (for each yum invocation) Satish From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 20:40:29 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:40:29 -0400 Subject: Python or yum broken? In-Reply-To: <1094156820.5013.3.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094156820.5013.3.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <604aa791040902134061d27870@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:27:00 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I've just tried a few times to do a yum check-update and all I'm getting > is there is a thread on the mailinglist that explains this subject: yum 2.1.0 The simple answer is yum-2.1.0-1 doesn't have all the advanced features wired up. expect yum updates moving forward to wire up more of those icing features. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 20:41:44 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:41:44 -0400 Subject: yum 2.1 & new metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa79104090213411284a893@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:29:41 -0500 (CDT), Satish Balay wrote: > developmen: ################################################## 3523/3523 how many packages are in the development tree? including noarch/i386/i686 AND src? -jef From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 2 20:47:56 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:47:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: yum 2.1 & new metadata In-Reply-To: <604aa79104090213411284a893@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa79104090213411284a893@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:29:41 -0500 (CDT), Satish Balay wrote: > > developmen: ################################################## 3523/3523 > > how many packages are in the development tree? > including noarch/i386/i686 AND src? Yeah - there are quiet a few packags - but I feel its a lot more datatransfer per yum invocation compared to the old model where the data for the same set of pacakges in rawhide is 180kB. (header.info file) Satish From pp at ee.oulu.fi Thu Sep 2 21:04:06 2004 From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 00:04:06 +0300 Subject: yum 2.1 & new metadata In-Reply-To: References: <604aa79104090213411284a893@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040902210406.GA5202@ee.oulu.fi> On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 03:47:56PM -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:29:41 -0500 (CDT), Satish Balay wrote: > > > developmen: ################################################## 3523/3523 > > > > how many packages are in the development tree? > > including noarch/i386/i686 AND src? > > Yeah - there are quiet a few packags - but I feel its a lot more > datatransfer per yum invocation compared to the old model where the > data for the same set of pacakges in rawhide is 180kB. (header.info > file) Yet another person confused by the new UI I think :-), we had a lively discussion about this on #fedora-devel the other day. The developmen: #### is metadata _parsing_, not downloading. If the repository metadata is uptodate, only 1k (repomd.xml) gets transferred, otherwise around 650k (for current rawhide). -- Pekka Pietikainen From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 2 21:09:04 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:09:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: yum 2.1 & new metadata In-Reply-To: <20040902210406.GA5202@ee.oulu.fi> References: <604aa79104090213411284a893@mail.gmail.com> <20040902210406.GA5202@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 03:47:56PM -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:29:41 -0500 (CDT), Satish Balay wrote: > > > > developmen: ################################################## 3523/3523 > > > > > > how many packages are in the development tree? > > > including noarch/i386/i686 AND src? > > > > Yeah - there are quiet a few packags - but I feel its a lot more > > datatransfer per yum invocation compared to the old model where the > > data for the same set of pacakges in rawhide is 180kB. (header.info > > file) > Yet another person confused by the new UI I think :-), we had > a lively discussion about this on #fedora-devel the other day. > > The developmen: #### is metadata _parsing_, not downloading. > If the repository metadata is uptodate, only 1k (repomd.xml) gets > transferred, otherwise around 650k (for current rawhide). Got it now :). 3523 is the number of packages-entires processed locally.. Recieved another about this from jeff. Thanks for the clarifications. Satish From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Thu Sep 2 21:17:26 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 23:17:26 +0200 Subject: Evolution in Rawhide In-Reply-To: <1094153749.17076.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1094153749.17076.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1094159845.4789.15.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi David, > So, for one day only, if you're running Rawhide Evolution, and are > seeing problems about libgal2 and libsoup when updating, you can find > the higher-level packages here: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm/rolling-rolling-rolling/ > > This _should_ all be fixed tonight, and Rawhide should work again > normally for the Evolution stuff tomorrow; sorry about the breakage. Too late! ;-) They are already there. But thanks for the heads up. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Sep 2 21:38:51 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 17:38:51 -0400 Subject: yum 2.1 & new metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094161131.11651.33.camel@binkley> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 15:29 -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > With the new metadata format - yum appears to download 3M of metadata > for rawhide - eachtime yum in invoked. no. > --- > % yum update > Setting up Update Process > Setting up Repo: development > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 944 kB 00:03 > developmen: ################################################## 3523/3523 > > --- > > I'm guessing the 3523 referes to 3523 kB - and probably referes to > repodata/filelists.xml.gz (and perhaps other files) > > Isn't this a lot more datatansfer than the older format? (for each yum > invocation) the #### is just reading in the metadata. I added some text output to yum 2.1.2 - hitting rawhide tonight, hopefully, that helps explain that. ==== are downloads #### are importing/reading. -sv From mike at netlyncs.com Thu Sep 2 23:04:59 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 18:04:59 -0500 Subject: latest update to FC3-test1 hoses the system In-Reply-To: <200409021141.07468.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023936@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> <200409021141.07468.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <1094166299.8789.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 11:41 -0500, Mike Klinke wrote: > Several of us have run into the same problem. What worked for me > was to boot up, navigate to the /var/cache/yum/development/packages > directory, rollback to the previous version of module-init-tools: I just booted with the last working kernel, while removing my /etc/modprobe.conf.dist file before hand and that seemed to allow me to boot and everything *seem* to work until the next round of updates, which is going on as I type this. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From jackhammer at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 23:08:31 2004 From: jackhammer at gmail.com (Paul Tinsley) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:08:31 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test 1 on AMD64 causes "static" Message-ID: I was wondering if anybody else has seen problems with the 64bit version of fc3t1 where booting off CD1 or the DVD to do the install doesn't make it past the isolinux portion of the install and turns the display into what looks somewhat like static. I first assumed it didn't like my dell flat panel so I hooked up a CRT and recieved the same results. So I swapped video cards to an old nvidia geforce 2 card and recieved the same results. I am somewhat at a loss as to what to try now. Thanks, Paul Tinsley From pri.rhl3 at iadonisi.to Thu Sep 2 23:51:08 2004 From: pri.rhl3 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:51:08 -0400 Subject: lots of brokenness (was: Re: module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm) In-Reply-To: <1094134022.23164.78.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <20040902120555.96464.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> <1094134022.23164.78.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <1094169068.24642.3.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 10:07, Paul Iadonisi wrote: [snip] > > > > What errors are you seeing? On the screen or the logs? SE Linux related? This is > > too vague to go looking through the code for. > > Apologies. I'm well aware the my post was vague. I haven't had a > chance to get the details. But one of significance is several lines > printed of the form (not exact): > > Permission denied: "/dev/null" > > I'll try to get better details to the list later today. Well, I guess it's all moot, now. The latest update fixed all the problems I was having. Additionally, I'm not getting an kernel panics. Looks like it was mostly related to mismatched initscripts/udev versions. Might be a dependency problem, but I wouldn't say that it really matters, since it's mid release. Seems (according to Jeremy Katz's response to my original message) that initscripts-7.76 is needed for udev-030-11. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Sep 3 00:28:43 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 01:28:43 +0100 Subject: Icons and sound on rawhide Message-ID: <1094171323.4814.1.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Some things have vanished from the current rawhide release. 1. My "home" icon has vanished totally. How do I get it back? 2. All of the icons in the redhat menu have gone. 3. After booting up, I have to set the volume levels for my soundcard. Anyone else finding these problems? TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Does anyone know the > > status of this feature? > > right now it doesn't exist exactly like that; what you can do is > restrict module loading only to modules that are GPG signed at the time > the kernel was built. Would that be close enough to what you want ? Sure. How it works ? :-) Find this article : http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7130 Doesn't seem up to date. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com Fri Sep 3 01:29:36 2004 From: Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com (Ow Mun Heng) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:29:36 +0800 Subject: usb disk installations In-Reply-To: <40FDCD79.40403@sbcglobal.net> References: <40FDCD79.40403@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094174975.7077.38.camel@neuromancer.home.net> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 09:57, Jim Cornette wrote: > I attempted to install FC3T1 on a USB drive using expert mode. It seems > that all the proper files installed on the disk. The disk is a laptop > disk contained inside a usb - ATA adapter and seems to work with the > proper modeles loaded. You can install it.. but as far as I can tell, you won't be able to boot into it unless you tweak the initrd > Are there any plans to get the module needed to mount USB disks loaded > soon enough to be able to boot from these disks. > My grub.conf file is in the attached file. > > There is a lot of interest in getting this concept to work. This concept works. I've gotten it to work. As mentioned, you need to get the initrd to load up the usb modules and you're all set. > > Thanks, > Jim -- Ow Mun Heng Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel 2.6.8.1.Aug.29 Neuromancer 09:28:30 up 1:19, 8 users, load average: 1.20, 1.31, 1.21 From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 3 02:19:44 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:19:44 -0400 Subject: usb disk installations In-Reply-To: <1094174975.7077.38.camel@neuromancer.home.net> References: <40FDCD79.40403@sbcglobal.net> <1094174975.7077.38.camel@neuromancer.home.net> Message-ID: <4137D4C0.9060302@sbcglobal.net> Ow Mun Heng wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 09:57, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>I attempted to install FC3T1 on a USB drive using expert mode. It seems >>that all the proper files installed on the disk. The disk is a laptop >>disk contained inside a usb - ATA adapter and seems to work with the >>proper modeles loaded. > > > You can install it.. but as far as I can tell, you won't be able to boot > into it unless you tweak the initrd > > >>Are there any plans to get the module needed to mount USB disks loaded >>soon enough to be able to boot from these disks. > > >>My grub.conf file is in the attached file. >> >>There is a lot of interest in getting this concept to work. > > > This concept works. I've gotten it to work. As mentioned, you need to > get the initrd to load up the usb modules and you're all set. > >>Thanks, >>Jim > > Thanks for the response. It would be decent to have a ready-made setup that works without a lot of tweaking. But since this is a hobby, I'll learn in the process when attempting to get the usb drive to boot up. I did chroot to the usb installation and do some tinkering with the USB installation, but that was all that I tried so far. The chrooted environment was educational and I learned some processes that Linux has, so it wasn't a total loss. Thanks, Jim -- So live that you wouldn't be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the town gossip. From Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com Fri Sep 3 02:57:45 2004 From: Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com (Ow Mun Heng) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 10:57:45 +0800 Subject: usb disk installations In-Reply-To: <4137D4C0.9060302@sbcglobal.net> References: <40FDCD79.40403@sbcglobal.net> <1094174975.7077.38.camel@neuromancer.home.net> <4137D4C0.9060302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094180265.7077.43.camel@neuromancer.home.net> On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 10:19, Jim Cornette wrote: > Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 09:57, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >>I attempted to install FC3T1 on a USB drive using expert mode. It seems > >>that all the proper files installed on the disk. The disk is a laptop > >>disk contained inside a usb - ATA adapter and seems to work with the > >>proper modeles loaded. > > > > > > You can install it.. but as far as I can tell, you won't be able to boot > > into it unless you tweak the initrd > > > > > >>Are there any plans to get the module needed to mount USB disks loaded > >>soon enough to be able to boot from these disks. > > > > > >>My grub.conf file is in the attached file. > >> > >>There is a lot of interest in getting this concept to work. > > > > > > This concept works. I've gotten it to work. As mentioned, you need to > > get the initrd to load up the usb modules and you're all set. > > > >>Thanks, > >>Jim > > > > > > Thanks for the response. It would be decent to have a ready-made setup > that works without a lot of tweaking. But since this is a hobby, I'll > learn in the process when attempting to get the usb drive to boot up. > > I did chroot to the usb installation and do some tinkering with the USB > installation, but that was all that I tried so far. The chrooted > environment was educational and I learned some processes that Linux has, > so it wasn't a total loss. > Well.. if you need more info on how to set it up.. here's 2 sites you can try. http://benusa.com/linux/boot.htm http://simonf.com/usb/ -- Ow Mun Heng Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel 2.6.8.1.Aug.29 Neuromancer 10:56:44 up 2:47, 8 users, load average: 0.35, 0.21, 0.30 From Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com Fri Sep 3 02:58:49 2004 From: Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com (Ow Mun Heng) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 10:58:49 +0800 Subject: usb disk installations In-Reply-To: <4137D4C0.9060302@sbcglobal.net> References: <40FDCD79.40403@sbcglobal.net> <1094174975.7077.38.camel@neuromancer.home.net> <4137D4C0.9060302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094180329.7077.45.camel@neuromancer.home.net> On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 10:19, Jim Cornette wrote: > Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 09:57, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >>I attempted to install FC3T1 on a USB drive using expert mode. It seems > >>that all the proper files installed on the disk. The disk is a laptop > >>disk contained inside a usb - ATA adapter and seems to work with the > >>proper modeles loaded. > > > > > > You can install it.. but as far as I can tell, you won't be able to boot > > into it unless you tweak the initrd > > > > > >>Are there any plans to get the module needed to mount USB disks loaded > >>soon enough to be able to boot from these disks. > > > > > >>My grub.conf file is in the attached file. > >> > >>There is a lot of interest in getting this concept to work. > > > > > > This concept works. I've gotten it to work. As mentioned, you need to > > get the initrd to load up the usb modules and you're all set. > > > >>Thanks, > >>Jim > > > > > > Thanks for the response. It would be decent to have a ready-made setup > that works without a lot of tweaking. But since this is a hobby, I'll > learn in the process when attempting to get the usb drive to boot up. > > I did chroot to the usb installation and do some tinkering with the USB > installation, but that was all that I tried so far. The chrooted > environment was educational and I learned some processes that Linux has, > so it wasn't a total loss. Oh.. you don't really have to chroot. You just have to copy your new initrd to the usb drive's boot directory and edit your grub.conf > > Thanks, > > Jim > > -- > So live that you wouldn't be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the > town gossip. -- Ow Mun Heng Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel 2.6.8.1.Aug.29 Neuromancer 10:58:08 up 2:49, 8 users, load average: 0.51, 0.34, 0.34 From ehoover at mines.edu Fri Sep 3 03:14:39 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (Erich Hoover) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:14:39 -0600 Subject: Problems with recent updates (with fix) Message-ID: <4137E19F.3070605@mines.edu> I had problems after updating recently where absolutely nothing could get modprobe'd, so I tried manually modprobing things and received errors about lines in /etc/modprobe.conf.dist. I tried commenting out the lines and it just made errors with other lines. I ended up just renaming /etc/modprobe.conf.dist and modprobe started working fine again. Don't know if this will help anyone but having modprobe is certainly a good thing. From spam at tachegroup.com Fri Sep 3 03:36:22 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 23:36:22 -0400 Subject: Python or yum broken? In-Reply-To: <604aa791040902134061d27870@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I realize that we all are living on the bleeding edge here, but a heads up to something such ass Yum not being ready for primetime would be nice. on 9/02/2004 4:40 PM, Jeff Spaleta at jspaleta at gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:27:00 +0100, Paul wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've just tried a few times to do a yum check-update and all I'm getting >> is > > there is a thread on the mailinglist that explains this subject: yum 2.1.0 > The simple answer is yum-2.1.0-1 doesn't have all the advanced > features wired up. > expect yum updates moving forward to wire up more of those icing features. > > -jef > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Sep 3 03:36:37 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 23:36:37 -0400 Subject: Python or yum broken? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094182597.11651.45.camel@binkley> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 23:36 -0400, TGS wrote: > I realize that we all are living on the bleeding edge here, but a heads up > to something such ass Yum not being ready for primetime would be nice. 1. I sent a notice to f-d-l and yum-devel list when I announced it. 2. So the only way to test the new yum would be to have it completely finished? But the only way to finish the new yum is to have it tested? Wash, rinse, repeat. :) -sv From spam at tachegroup.com Fri Sep 3 03:40:59 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 23:40:59 -0400 Subject: Laptop and Hyperthread Message-ID: Okay, I am now ready to figure out why my hyperthreaded laptop hangs when booting into a SMP kernel under Fedora. Knoppix seems to work just fine. So I was wondering if anyone has done that, and also any hints on how to debug it. I have had it boot correctly only once, under 533. Others either hang forever, or progress at a snails pace, taking 3 hours to boot the machine. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 3 03:43:01 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 23:43:01 -0400 Subject: usb disk installations In-Reply-To: <1094180265.7077.43.camel@neuromancer.home.net> References: <40FDCD79.40403@sbcglobal.net> <1094174975.7077.38.camel@neuromancer.home.net> <4137D4C0.9060302@sbcglobal.net> <1094180265.7077.43.camel@neuromancer.home.net> Message-ID: <4137E845.7050405@sbcglobal.net> Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > Well.. if you need more info on how to set it up.. here's 2 sites you > can try. > > http://benusa.com/linux/boot.htm > http://simonf.com/usb/ > Thanks for the links. I'll check them out and try setting up the usb installation. My comments were mainly because of being able to complete an installation through the installer onto usb drives. I expected the next logical step, a booting system from the just installed OS. Maybe this feature can come along sometime. Jim From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 3 04:12:42 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 00:12:42 -0400 Subject: Better, but seems to wave at left/right edges - xorg-x11 Message-ID: <4137EF3A.5020707@sbcglobal.net> I just installed the latest xorg-x11 rpms and X comes up now. I am able to start typing this message and all seems well. I was able to comment that the fix that brought X up again was working, then it messed up on the last trial. The only problem that I noticed was a wavy like action on the left and right sides of the screen. This is using the stock rpms from recent days. This is with pure binaries and no horrible hacking applied. Also, the i686 optimized rpms are working fine on the other installation that I have on the same machine. This gives hopes to those with the i810 driver running their video cards. So does anyone with similar video hardware note any improvements or regressions? A noted improvement with this X version, compared with xorg-x11-6.7.0-6, which this system had installed onto it before the upgrade relates to higher glxgears readings. xorg-x11-6.7.0-6 results: glxgears 349 frames in 5.0 seconds = 69.800 FPS 360 frames in 6.0 seconds = 60.000 FPS 357 frames in 6.0 seconds = 59.500 FPS 360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 72.000 FPS 360 frames in 6.0 seconds = 60.000 FPS 360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 72.000 FPS 360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 72.000 FPS 360 frames in 6.0 seconds = 60.000 FPS 360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 72.000 FPS X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). xorg-x11-6.7.99.903-2 rates at: glxgears 621 frames in 6.0 seconds = 103.500 FPS 480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.000 FPS 480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.000 FPS 480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.000 FPS 480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.000 FPS and glxinfo will be included with bug closing on my submitted open bug reports. Jim From Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com Fri Sep 3 04:18:08 2004 From: Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com (Ow Mun Heng) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 12:18:08 +0800 Subject: usb disk installations In-Reply-To: <4137E845.7050405@sbcglobal.net> References: <40FDCD79.40403@sbcglobal.net> <1094174975.7077.38.camel@neuromancer.home.net> <4137D4C0.9060302@sbcglobal.net> <1094180265.7077.43.camel@neuromancer.home.net> <4137E845.7050405@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094185088.7077.75.camel@neuromancer.home.net> On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 11:43, Jim Cornette wrote: > Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > > > > Well.. if you need more info on how to set it up.. here's 2 sites you > > can try. > > > > http://benusa.com/linux/boot.htm > > http://simonf.com/usb/ > > > > Thanks for the links. I'll check them out and try setting up the usb > installation. > > My comments were mainly because of being able to complete an > installation through the installer onto usb drives. I expected the next > logical step, a booting system from the just installed OS. > Maybe this feature can come along sometime. Yah.. I know what you mean. I had the same pre-conception too. And Lo.. was I wrong..:-) > > Jim -- Ow Mun Heng Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel 2.6.8.1.Aug.29 Neuromancer 12:17:47 up 4:08, 9 users, load average: 1.73, 0.88, 0.74 From spam at tachegroup.com Fri Sep 3 04:18:06 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 00:18:06 -0400 Subject: Python or yum broken? In-Reply-To: <1094182597.11651.45.camel@binkley> Message-ID: okay. Thanks on 9/02/2004 11:36 PM, seth vidal at skvidal at phy.duke.edu wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 23:36 -0400, TGS wrote: >> I realize that we all are living on the bleeding edge here, but a heads up >> to something such ass Yum not being ready for primetime would be nice. > > 1. I sent a notice to f-d-l and yum-devel list when I announced it. > 2. So the only way to test the new yum would be to have it completely > finished? But the only way to finish the new yum is to have it tested? > Wash, rinse, repeat. > :) > > -sv > > From lsomike at futzin.com Fri Sep 3 05:12:36 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 00:12:36 -0500 Subject: Missing /dev/cdrom and /dev/sr0 when using kernel-2.6.8-1.541 Message-ID: <200409030012.36139.lsomike@futzin.com> As the subject notes my cdrom and sr0 devices are not installed with the 2.6.8-1.541 kernel. Reverting back to the 2.6.8-1.535 kernel brings the devices back. This is on a firewire based cdrom (Sony VAIO laptop). The dmesg logs for the two kernel versions are here: 2.6.8-1.535 http://www.futzin.com/dmesg-535.txt 2.6.8-1.541 http://www.futzin.com/dmesg-541.txt and while the symptom comes and goes with the version of kernel I use, I'm not sure which other packages, if any, may actually be responsible for this (any handy hints?) After booting, I can modprobe "sr_mod" to get /dev/sr0. I've put the output from lsmod here: 2.6.8-1.535 http://www.futzin.com/lsmod-535.txt 2.6.8-1.541 http://www.futzin.com/lsmod-541.txt Regards, Mike Klinke From arjanv at redhat.com Fri Sep 3 07:18:36 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:18:36 +0200 Subject: Disabling module loading In-Reply-To: <1094171860.20649.116.camel@one.myworld> References: <41369893.8050404@swcp.com> <1094108720.2823.3.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1094171860.20649.116.camel@one.myworld> Message-ID: <20040903071836.GA22802@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 02:37:40AM +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > the kernel was built. Would that be close enough to what you want ? > > Sure. > How it works ? :-) Just add enforcemodulesig to the kernel commandline... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What do you guys in the US get up to ;-p TTFN Paul (Sitting in his office in Salford, Manchester, UK) -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From spam at tachegroup.com Fri Sep 3 08:08:51 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 04:08:51 -0400 Subject: Terri Varveris/P&T/NewYork909/Wiley is out of the office. In-Reply-To: <1094198810.23376.11.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: No, I believe it is MM/DD/YYYY on 9/03/2004 4:06 AM, PFJ at paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk wrote: > Hi, > >> I will be out of the office starting 09/02/2004 and will not return until >> 09/08/2004. > > Cripes! A 6 month holiday. What do you guys in the US get up to ;-p > > TTFN > > Paul > (Sitting in his office in Salford, Manchester, UK) From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Sep 3 08:12:09 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:12:09 +0100 Subject: Terri Varveris/P&T/NewYork909/Wiley is out of the office. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094199129.23376.13.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, > No, I believe it is MM/DD/YYYY You missed the ;-p ;-) TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mondragon) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 07:07:58 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test 1 on AMD64 causes "static" In-Reply-To: <20040903033645.25D5C73474@hormel.redhat.com>; from fedora-test-list-request@redhat.com on Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 11:36:45PM -0400 References: <20040903033645.25D5C73474@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040903070758.A27104@foxriver.com> On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 11:36:45PM -0400, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > From: Paul Tinsley > Precedence: junk > Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test 1 on AMD64 causes "static" > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:08:31 -0500 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Reply-To: Paul Tinsley , > For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message: 9 > > I was wondering if anybody else has seen problems with the 64bit > version of fc3t1 where booting off CD1 or the DVD to do the install > doesn't make it past the isolinux portion of the install and turns the > display into what looks somewhat like static. I first assumed it > didn't like my dell flat panel so I hooked up a CRT and recieved the > same results. So I swapped video cards to an old nvidia geforce 2 > card and recieved the same results. I am somewhat at a loss as to > what to try now. > > Thanks, > Paul Tinsley > > > See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=130557 It should be fixed in FC3 test2. Marc Mondragon From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Fri Sep 3 12:42:15 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:42:15 +0100 Subject: Bug in konsole In-Reply-To: References: <41239D15.5050701@home.nl> <200408190259.21273@-mr700> Message-ID: <20040903124215.GA6163@nsk.no-ip.org> On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 10:53:01PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > "Doncho N. Gunchev" writes: > > > Ctrl+s -> freeze / i-search (when no flow control) > > Ctrl+r - reverse i-search > > If you need Ctrl-s for search then 'configure console' -> unselect '[ ] Use > > Ctrl+S/Ctrl+Q flow control'. If it really changes behaviour after/while ssh-ing, > > then it is a bug. > > Apparently it is then. That selection was already unselected, and > pressing C-s gets the isearch, yet after ssh to a remote console term > pressing C-s acts as if that box was selected. C-s pauses and C-q > releases. That's the configuration of the pseudo tty on the remote host. If you don't like/need start/stop, run "stty -ixon" on the remote host. (or, on your .bashrc: tty -s && stty -ixon ) Regards, Luciano Rocha From lsomike at futzin.com Fri Sep 3 13:26:49 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:26:49 -0500 Subject: Update error with "dev" package. Message-ID: <200409030826.50200.lsomike@futzin.com> Received the following error during this morning's updates: Cannot install the dev package: mounted devfs detected. error: %pre(dev-3.11-1) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 error: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping dev-3.11-1 It seems bugzilla doesn't list a "dev" package option to file bugs against. Does anyone know if the "dev86" listed in the bugzilla menu would be the appropriate place? Regards, Mike Klinke From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Sep 3 14:00:20 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:00:20 -0400 Subject: Missing /dev/cdrom and /dev/sr0 when using kernel-2.6.8-1.541 In-Reply-To: <200409030012.36139.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409030012.36139.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <604aa79104090307005694aac7@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 00:12:36 -0500, Mike Klinke wrote: > > As the subject notes my cdrom and sr0 devices are not installed with > the 2.6.8-1.541 kernel. Reverting back to the 2.6.8-1.535 kernel > brings the devices back. This is on a firewire based cdrom (Sony > VAIO laptop). funny you should mention this.... Im seeing something similar regarding my usb scanner. The scsi device listing is not being created for my scanner in 541 kernel until i modprobe sg. I revert back to kernel 535.. and it works. Actually...afaict all my hardware works now on 535. All my usb devices, this is a milestone event. This is the first time everything connected to this crate has actually been working... even the gnome volume manager automounting is working for all my usb storage devices. booting into 541 and i see a range of rather funky behavior with the usb-storage devices... the scanner issue seems the most striaght forward in that i can modprobe sg and get functionality back. -jef From linux00 at kornet.net Fri Sep 3 14:06:46 2004 From: linux00 at kornet.net (sangu) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:06:46 +0900 Subject: Update error with "dev" package. In-Reply-To: <1094218032986893721.0.ppp11@ppp11> References: <1094218032986893721.0.ppp11@ppp11> Message-ID: <1094220406.3684.1.camel@sangu.sangu.net> rpm -qi dev Name : dev Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 3.9.2 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 1 Build Date: Wed Sep 1 04:54:45 2004Install Date: Wed Sep 1 21:59:22 2004 Build Host: porky.build.redhat.com Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM: MAKEDEV-3.9.2-1.src.rpm Size : 0 License: GPL Signature : (none) Packager : Red Hat, Inc. URL : http://www.lanana.org/docs/device-list/ Summary : The most commonly-used entries in the /dev directory. Description : The Red Hat Linux operating system uses file system entries to represent devices (CD-ROMs, floppy drives, etc.) attached to the machine. All of these entries are in the /dev tree (although they don't have to be). This package contains the most commonly used /dev entries. The dev package is a basic part of your Red Hat Linux system and it needs to be installed. "MAKEDEV" package 2004-09-03 (?), 08:26 -0500, Mike Klinke ???: > Received the following error during this morning's updates: > > Cannot install the dev package: mounted devfs detected. > error: %pre(dev-3.11-1) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > error: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping dev-3.11-1 > > It seems bugzilla doesn't list a "dev" package option to file bugs > against. Does anyone know if the "dev86" listed in the bugzilla > menu would be the appropriate place? > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > > From bryan at ayesha.phys.Virginia.EDU Fri Sep 3 14:01:42 2004 From: bryan at ayesha.phys.Virginia.EDU (Bryan K. Wright) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 10:01:42 -0400 Subject: Replacing Xaw shared libs w/ Xaw3d libs? Message-ID: <200409031401.i83E1hP15785@ayesha.phys.Virginia.EDU> Hi folks, I tried posing this question on the fedora-list, but got no responses. I'm hoping someone on fedora-test-list will have an answer, or point me to something in the development tree that fixes my problem. Under earlier distributions, I've always been able to replace the Xaw shared libs with the equivalent Xaw3d libs. This is a quick way of prettying up some older X applications (xterm, xcalc, xfig, etc.) For some reason, this doesn't seem to work under FC2. Normally, I'd just do this: mv libXaw.so.7.0 /some/where/safe/ cp -f libXaw3d.so.7.0 libXaw.so.7.0 ldconfig -v and, voila!, xterm gets a 3-d scroll bar. Under FC2 though, xterm complains that it can't find libXaw.so.7. It turns out that ldconfig is indeed failing to create the symbolic link from libXaw.so.7 to libXaw.so.7.0. Creating the link by hand doesn't solve the problem, though. Typing 'ldd /usr/bin/xterm' still shows libXaw.so.7 as missing. At first I thought it might be a problem with prelinking, so I did a 'prelink -u /usr/bin/xterm'. That didn't seem to make any difference. Has anybody successfully replaced Xaw with Xaw3d in this manner under FC2? Thanks in advance, Bryan -- =============================================================================== Bryan Wright |"If you take cranberries and stew them like Physics Department | applesauce, they taste much more like prunes University of Virginia | than rhubarb does." -- Groucho Charlottesville, VA 22901 | (434) 924-7218 | bryan at virginia.edu =============================================================================== From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Fri Sep 3 14:47:03 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:47:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Update error with "dev" package. In-Reply-To: <200409030826.50200.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409030826.50200.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Mike Klinke wrote: > Received the following error during this morning's updates: > > Cannot install the dev package: mounted devfs detected. > error: %pre(dev-3.11-1) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > error: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping dev-3.11-1 > > It seems bugzilla doesn't list a "dev" package option to file bugs > against. Does anyone know if the "dev86" listed in the bugzilla > menu would be the appropriate place? It is right to refuse to update, because you have udev running, which handles device management, so you shouldn't need the dev package, and installing won't work anyway as you install on a temporary file system rather than the real one, so the files probably won't be there at the next reboot. But there remain interesting questions like how you can uninstall dev, and whether you can actually uninstall it anyway, as a few other packages require the dev package. Michael Young From romildo at uber.com.br Fri Sep 3 16:53:27 2004 From: romildo at uber.com.br (romildo at uber.com.br) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:53:27 -0300 Subject: Replacement for htmlview Message-ID: <20040903165327.GA29999@gentoo.malaquias.no-ip.org> Hello. It seems that htmlview will not be in the next Fedora Core version, as it is deprecated in Fedora Core 2 and there is no package for it at ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/SRPMS/ So, what program is going to provide the functionality of htmlview? Romildo From lsomike at futzin.com Fri Sep 3 17:02:03 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:02:03 -0500 Subject: Update error with "dev" package. In-Reply-To: References: <200409030826.50200.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <200409031202.03420.lsomike@futzin.com> On Friday 03 September 2004 09:47, M A Young wrote: > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Mike Klinke wrote: > > Cannot install the dev package: mounted devfs detected. > > error: %pre(dev-3.11-1) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > > error: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping > > dev-3.11-1 > But there remain interesting questions like how you can uninstall > dev, and whether you can actually uninstall it anyway, as a few > other packages require the dev package. > > Michael Young According to my /var/cache/yum/development/package directory we've been through a few updates of this package; -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3216748 Sep 3 07:56 dev-3.11-1.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3216570 Sep 1 08:21 dev-3.9.2-1.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3215706 Aug 27 23:20 dev-3.9.1-1.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3170751 Aug 26 20:29 dev-3.9-1.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3167108 Aug 3 23:24 dev-3.8.3-1.i386.rpm so we should have crossed this bridge already. If I'm not the only one who is seeing this ( Am I ...anyone else ?) then I suspect there's a buglet in the scriptlet. Regards, Mike Klinke From shadowssurround at hotpop.com Fri Sep 3 17:27:25 2004 From: shadowssurround at hotpop.com (Ryan James) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 10:27:25 -0700 Subject: Update error with "dev" package. In-Reply-To: <200409031202.03420.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409030826.50200.lsomike@futzin.com> <200409031202.03420.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <4138A97D.8020500@hotpop.com> Mike Klinke wrote: >so we should have crossed this bridge already. If I'm not the only >one who is seeing this ( Am I ...anyone else ?) then I suspect >there's a buglet in the scriptlet. > > i am seeing it too. up2date says it has installed dev, but then it is still in the "available updates". From romildo at uber.com.br Fri Sep 3 17:53:09 2004 From: romildo at uber.com.br (romildo at uber.com.br) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 14:53:09 -0300 Subject: Replacement for htmlview In-Reply-To: <20040903165327.GA29999@gentoo.malaquias.no-ip.org> References: <20040903165327.GA29999@gentoo.malaquias.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <20040903175309.GB29999@gentoo.malaquias.no-ip.org> On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 01:53:27PM -0300, romildo at uber.com.br wrote: > > It seems that htmlview will not be in the next Fedora Core > version, as it is deprecated in Fedora Core 2 and there > is no package for it at > ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/SRPMS/ > > So, what program is going to provide the functionality of htmlview? I am wrong, because htmlview is still in rawhide (development). I am sorry. But will it really be in Fedora Core 3? In the %description section of the spec file one can read: "This package is deprecated and scheduled for removal before FC3, after equivalent functionality is implemented." Romildo From pgsery at swcp.com Fri Sep 3 18:15:27 2004 From: pgsery at swcp.com (Paul Sery) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 18:15:27 -0000 Subject: Disabling module loading In-Reply-To: <20040903071836.GA22802@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <41369893.8050404@swcp.com> <1094108720.2823.3.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1094171860.20649.116.camel@one.myworld>, <1094171860.20649.116.camel@one.myworld> Message-ID: Arjan van de Ven said: > > --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 02:37:40AM +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > the kernel was built. Would that be close enough to what you want ? > > > > Sure. > > How it works ? :-) > > Just add enforcemodulesig to the kernel commandline... > Are the GPG signatures included with the kernel rpm? If so, then I think this will suffice. From arjanv at redhat.com Fri Sep 3 18:19:28 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 20:19:28 +0200 Subject: Disabling module loading In-Reply-To: References: <41369893.8050404@swcp.com> <1094108720.2823.3.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1094171860.20649.116.camel@one.myworld> Message-ID: <20040903181928.GA26048@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 06:15:27PM -0000, Paul Sery wrote: > Arjan van de Ven said: > > > > > --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 02:37:40AM +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > > the kernel was built. Would that be close enough to what you want ? > > > > > > Sure. > > > How it works ? :-) > > > > Just add enforcemodulesig to the kernel commandline... > > > Are the GPG signatures included with the kernel rpm? If so, then I think this > will suffice. they are built into the kernel (public key) and the modules in the rpm are signed with the private key; which is automatically thrown away after the rpm build finishes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bartk at clara.co.uk Fri Sep 3 20:19:15 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:19:15 +0100 Subject: FTP install Message-ID: <4138D1C3.1060500@clara.co.uk> Well, my fedora box is still down and I am about to do "windows thing" namely clean install I've tried to do ftp install via boot.iso downloaded and burned today. The problem is that after assigning IP address and pointing it to ftp server: ftp.linux.ncsu.edu /mirror/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ ...........nothing happens I have a blue ('sic) screen with red Fedora Core in top left corner and F key options at the bottom of the screen.... and that's all any thoughts anybody? TIA From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri Sep 3 20:17:47 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 23:17:47 +0300 Subject: xorg-x11-deprecated-libs? Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B5387@eemail1.microlink.lan> Okay, what has happened to xorg-x11-deprecated-libs? I can't find it or its -devel package on any of the mirrors anymore. Already celebrating Labor day? Fred -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri Sep 3 20:21:33 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 23:21:33 +0300 Subject: Firefox! 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URL: From bartk at clara.co.uk Fri Sep 3 20:27:12 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:27:12 +0100 Subject: FTP install In-Reply-To: <4138D1C3.1060500@clara.co.uk> References: <4138D1C3.1060500@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <4138D3A0.6@clara.co.uk> Bart Kalita wrote: > Well, > > my fedora box is still down and I am about to do "windows thing" > namely clean install > > I've tried to do ftp install via boot.iso downloaded and burned today. > > The problem is that after assigning IP address and pointing it to ftp > server: > > ftp.linux.ncsu.edu > /mirror/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > > ...........nothing happens > > I have a blue ('sic) screen with red Fedora Core in top left corner > and F key options at the bottom of the screen.... and that's all > > any thoughts anybody? > > TIA > > just before droping the dvd in the drive I've decided to try http its recieving stage2.img fingers crossed ;-) From rhally at mindspring.com Fri Sep 3 20:33:27 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 16:33:27 -0400 Subject: Update error with "dev" package. In-Reply-To: <200409031202.03420.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409030826.50200.lsomike@futzin.com> <200409031202.03420.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <4138D517.1080001@mindspring.com> Mike Klinke wrote: >On Friday 03 September 2004 09:47, M A Young wrote: > > >>On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Mike Klinke wrote: >> >> > > > >>>Cannot install the dev package: mounted devfs detected. >>>error: %pre(dev-3.11-1) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 >>>error: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping >>>dev-3.11-1 >>> >>> > > > >>But there remain interesting questions like how you can uninstall >>dev, and whether you can actually uninstall it anyway, as a few >>other packages require the dev package. >> >> Michael Young >> >> > >According to my /var/cache/yum/development/package directory we've >been through a few updates of this package; > >-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3216748 Sep 3 07:56 dev-3.11-1.i386.rpm >-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3216570 Sep 1 08:21 dev-3.9.2-1.i386.rpm >-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3215706 Aug 27 23:20 dev-3.9.1-1.i386.rpm >-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3170751 Aug 26 20:29 dev-3.9-1.i386.rpm >-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3167108 Aug 3 23:24 dev-3.8.3-1.i386.rpm > >so we should have crossed this bridge already. If I'm not the only >one who is seeing this ( Am I ...anyone else ?) then I suspect >there's a buglet in the scriptlet. > >Regards, Mike Klinke > > > > > > Yup, I've seen it also! Richard Hally From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Sep 3 20:39:00 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 16:39:00 -0400 Subject: xorg-x11-deprecated-libs? In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B5387@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B5387@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <604aa79104090313395be3a2d3@mail.gmail.com> Fred New wrote: > Okay, what has happened to xorg-x11-deprecated-libs? I can't find it or its -devel package > on any of the mirrors anymore. Already celebrating Labor day? Something happened with yesterdays build process, and in the confusion an old version of xorg-x11 was built. Tomorrow's updates should fix it. -jef From sopwith at redhat.com Fri Sep 3 20:41:45 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 16:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: xorg-x11-deprecated-libs? In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B5387@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B5387@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Fred New wrote: > Okay, what has happened to xorg-x11-deprecated-libs? I can't find it or > its -devel package on any of the mirrors anymore. Already celebrating > Labor day? It'll be fixed in the next rawhide. -- Elliot The daring is in the doing http://people.redhat.com/sopwith/ From bartk at clara.co.uk Fri Sep 3 21:32:11 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 22:32:11 +0100 Subject: FTP install then HTTP no go In-Reply-To: <4138D1C3.1060500@clara.co.uk> References: <4138D1C3.1060500@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <4138E2DB.80204@clara.co.uk> Error: The Fedora Core installation tree in that directory does not match your boot media Web Site Name: mirror.linux.duke.edu Fedora Core Directory: /pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ well, DVD in the drive time to .... From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 3 21:55:09 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:55:09 -0400 Subject: FTP install then HTTP no go In-Reply-To: <4138E2DB.80204@clara.co.uk> References: <4138D1C3.1060500@clara.co.uk> <4138E2DB.80204@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: <4138E83D.9000107@sbcglobal.net> Bart Kalita wrote: > > Error: > > The Fedora Core installation tree in that directory does not match your > boot media > > Web Site Name: mirror.linux.duke.edu > Fedora Core Directory: /pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > > well, DVD in the drive time to .... > > The boot.iso needs to be current from the date that you try the install. Also, you should use the same mirror that you plan on getting the FTP install from. Since it changes so often, I use a rewritable CDROM. Jim -- Old age is too high a price to pay for maturity. From sopwith at redhat.com Fri Sep 3 21:58:55 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 17:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree Message-ID: Hi all, I've just started uploading the latest "release candidate" for FC3test2. This is __________________NOT__________________ the final FC3test2 tree. If you're interested in helping with testing for the FC3test2 milestone, wait until it finishes uploading (there's 39G still to go, but hopefully it will be done by tomorrow). Right now we're down to "no broken dependencies" and "might install". You'll have to find out for yourself. :-) Especially useful would be reports on installs from CD or DVD. Unlike rawhide, this tree has all the .iso images. Where to get it when it's uploaded? http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0903.0/ Cheers, -- Elliot The daring is in the doing http://people.redhat.com/sopwith/ From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 4 00:45:48 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:45:48 -0500 Subject: Update error with "dev" package. In-Reply-To: <4138D517.1080001@mindspring.com> References: <200409030826.50200.lsomike@futzin.com> <200409031202.03420.lsomike@futzin.com> <4138D517.1080001@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200409031945.48567.lsomike@futzin.com> On Friday 03 September 2004 15:33, Richard Hally wrote: > > > >so we should have crossed this bridge already. If I'm not the > > only one who is seeing this ( Am I ...anyone else ?) then I > > suspect there's a buglet in the scriptlet. > > > >Regards, Mike Klinke > > Yup, I've seen it also! > Richard Hally Thanks to you and others who confirmed the same results I was seeing. I've gone ahead and filed a but against the MAKEDEV package as that seemed the best fit of choices available. Regards, Mike Klinke https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131761 From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 4 00:57:15 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:57:15 -0500 Subject: Missing /dev/cdrom and /dev/sr0 when using kernel-2.6.8-1.541 In-Reply-To: <604aa79104090307005694aac7@mail.gmail.com> References: <200409030012.36139.lsomike@futzin.com> <604aa79104090307005694aac7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200409031957.15270.lsomike@futzin.com> On Friday 03 September 2004 09:00, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > I revert back to kernel 535.. and it works. Actually...afaict all > my hardware works now > on 535. All my usb devices, this is a milestone event. This is > the first time everything connected to this crate has actually > been working... even the gnome volume manager automounting is > working for all my usb storage devices. > I went ahead and filed a bug for the issue I had here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131762 and hopefully whatever the resolution turns out to be will restore your "crate" to pristine condition too! Regards, Mike Klinke From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Sep 4 02:39:14 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 22:39:14 -0400 Subject: FTP install then HTTP no go In-Reply-To: <4138E83D.9000107@sbcglobal.net> References: <4138D1C3.1060500@clara.co.uk> <4138E2DB.80204@clara.co.uk> <4138E83D.9000107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409032239.14363.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 03 September 2004 17:55, Jim Cornette wrote: >From his sig: >Old age is too high a price to pay for maturity. And I ought to know. I'm looking at the 70th and I'm still not "mature". My posts to this list are testimony to that. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.24% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat Sep 4 07:07:59 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 09:07:59 +0200 Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094281671.20649.127.camel@one.myworld> Le ven 03/09/2004 ? 23:58, Elliot Lee a ?crit : > Hi all, > > I've just started uploading the latest "release candidate" for FC3test2. > This is __________________NOT__________________ the final FC3test2 tree. > (...) > > Where to get it when it's uploaded? > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0903.0/ New layout. something new or something broken ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From russell at coker.com.au Sat Sep 4 09:13:45 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 19:13:45 +1000 Subject: 2.6.8-1.533 and TCP Message-ID: <200409041913.45089.russell@coker.com.au> Since upgrading a server to 2.6.8-1.533 I am getting some TCP problems. The client is running 2.6.8.1 and worked well with earlier kernels ~526. Now with 533 periodically an operation that results in a moderate amount of data being sent back (such as "ls -l" in a ssh session) will hang indefinately. The client is behind a 2.6.7 machine running masquerading. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 4 12:12:29 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 13:12:29 +0100 Subject: FC3t2 via yum Message-ID: <1094299949.15913.56.camel@T7.linux> Hi, This is just a wild guess, but can I take it that my box is actually running FC3t2 as I've run yum every night (like a good little man)? Or have the repositories not been updated. Just asking as only udev is on the development branch for update at the moment (13:11 British Summer Time) I know when I reboot, my box is still claiming to be running FC2 and not 3t1 TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Unlike >rawhide, this tree has all the .iso images. > >Where to get it when it's uploaded? >http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0903.0/ > >Cheers, >-- Elliot >The daring is in the doing > >http://people.redhat.com/sopwith/ > > > > I just tried to get to the DVD and see it isn't there yet. There are CD images for disc1 through disc8 rather than the usual 4 binary discs and source disks. How many and which ones are required for an install? Gerry From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 4 13:46:23 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:46:23 +0100 Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <4139C236.5090709@earthlink.net> References: <4139C236.5090709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1094305583.15913.123.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > How many and which ones are required for an install? If it's like the FC2 tree, first 4 discs are RPMS, last 4 are SRPMS. 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"yum update" errored out and quit with the display below. ============ yum error ============= Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 94, in main (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 130, in buildTransaction (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 157, in resolveDeps (checkdep, missing, conflict, errormsgs) = self._processConflict(dep) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 351, in _processConflict msg = '%s conflicts: %s' % (name, rpmUtils.miscutils.formatRequire(needname, needversion, flags)) NameError: global name 'name' is not defined ===================================== I filed a bug which was quickly marked as closed due to the problem having been fixed in the version of yum that "yum update" was going to download and install this morning. I manually downloaded the new yum rpm and installed it. After running the new yum I then received the error: #yum update ......... Resolving Dependencies Error: xorg-x11-font-utils conflicts: xorg-x11-base-fonts<= 6.7.99.903-3 and after excluding "xorg-x11" the "yum update" then completed. I presume that simply excluding "xorg-x11" would have allowed the yum update with yesterday's version to complete. Hope this helps someone else and I'm off to file a bug against "xorg-x11" if it hasn't already been done. Regards, Mike Klinke From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Sep 4 14:40:05 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:40:05 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <604aa791040904074078b0fc0c@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 09:31:00 -0500, Mike Klinke wrote: > received the error: > > #yum update > ......... > Resolving Dependencies > Error: xorg-x11-font-utils conflicts: xorg-x11-base-fonts<= > 6.7.99.903-3 > > and after excluding "xorg-x11" the "yum update" then completed. I > presume that simply excluding "xorg-x11" would have allowed the yum > update with yesterday's version to complete. Hope this helps > someone else and I'm off to file a bug against "xorg-x11" if it > hasn't already been done. You are confusing things that are going on to some extent. There first thing you saw with the traceback was a real error in yum 2.1.2, which yum 2.1.3 should fix. The conflict error you see is a REAL packaging conflict between the old version of xorg you had installed and the new version of xorg in rawhide. Its a packaging conflict because the items in the xorg packages have been restructured in the new rawhide version. instead of excluding that xorg package, try yum --obsoletes update the new xorg packages uses the rpm concept of "obsoleting" to handle the problem of restructuring of package payloads. -jef From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 4 14:59:06 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 15:59:06 +0100 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <604aa791040904074078b0fc0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <604aa791040904074078b0fc0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1094309946.15913.152.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > instead of excluding that xorg package, try yum --obsoletes update > the new xorg packages uses the rpm concept of "obsoleting" to handle > the problem of restructuring of package payloads. --obsoletes is not listed as an option anymore. That said, I'm getting this when I try to do an update. yum gets to the resolving dependencies stage and then... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 94, in main (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 130, in buildTransaction (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 157, in resolveDeps (checkdep, missing, conflict, errormsgs) = self._processConflict (dep) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 351, in _processConflict msg = '%s conflicts: %s' % (name, rpmUtils.miscutils.formatRequire (needname, needversion, flags)) NameError: global name 'name' is not defined Looks like something is broken. TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 4 14:59:56 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 09:59:56 -0500 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <604aa791040904074078b0fc0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <604aa791040904074078b0fc0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200409040959.56574.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 04 September 2004 09:40, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > There first thing you saw with the traceback was a real error in > yum 2.1.2, which yum 2.1.3 should fix. This is what trying to say, but, of course, why say it with only a few words when a whole saga can be written .... > > The conflict error you see is a REAL packaging conflict between > the old version of xorg you had installed and the new version of > xorg in rawhide. Its a packaging conflict because the items in > the xorg packages have been restructured in the new rawhide > version. > > instead of excluding that xorg package, try yum --obsoletes > update the new xorg packages uses the rpm concept of "obsoleting" > to handle the problem of restructuring of package payloads. > > -jef Thanks for the clue on "--obsoletes". I hadn't read any discussion of the different "obsoleting" method for xorg-x11 packages. How did you become aware of this? Regards, Mike Klinke From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Sep 4 15:04:12 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 11:04:12 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <1094309946.15913.152.camel@T7.linux> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <604aa791040904074078b0fc0c@mail.gmail.com> <1094309946.15913.152.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <604aa791040904080479bb4d2@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 15:59:06 +0100, Paul wrote: > That said, I'm getting this when I try to do an update. yum gets to the > resolving dependencies stage and then... did you install yum 2.1.3 yet? From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 4 15:14:39 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:14:39 +0100 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <604aa791040904080479bb4d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <604aa791040904074078b0fc0c@mail.gmail.com> <1094309946.15913.152.camel@T7.linux> <604aa791040904080479bb4d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1094310879.15913.156.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > That said, I'm getting this when I try to do an update. yum gets to the > > resolving dependencies stage and then... > > did you install yum 2.1.3 yet? Still on 2.1.2. yum is in part of the updates. TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Sep 4 16:08:29 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 18:08:29 +0200 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <1094310879.15913.156.camel@T7.linux> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <604aa791040904074078b0fc0c@mail.gmail.com> <1094309946.15913.152.camel@T7.linux> <604aa791040904080479bb4d2@mail.gmail.com> <1094310879.15913.156.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <4139E87D.9050305@gmx.de> Paul wrote: >>>That said, I'm getting this when I try to do an update. yum gets to the >>>resolving dependencies stage and then... >>> >>> >>did you install yum 2.1.3 yet? >> >> >Still on 2.1.2. yum is in part of the updates. > # yum -y update ; sleep 30s ; yum -y --obsolete update seems to work. it seems that both are ok --obsolete --obsoletes thanks :-) -- shrek-m From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 4 16:13:15 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 11:13:15 -0500 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <1094310879.15913.156.camel@T7.linux> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <604aa791040904080479bb4d2@mail.gmail.com> <1094310879.15913.156.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <200409041113.15537.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 04 September 2004 10:14, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > > That said, I'm getting this when I try to do an update. yum > > > gets to the resolving dependencies stage and then... > > > > did you install yum 2.1.3 yet? > > Still on 2.1.2. yum is in part of the updates. > > TTFN > > Paul Paul, You're just going down the same path I did this morning. Try this: 1. Manually download the new yum package (2.1.3.) 2. Install it. ( rpm -Uvh yum-blah-blah ) 3. Issue the "yum --oblsoletes upate" command The --obsoletes switch is undocumented in the man pages but it does indeed work. Here's a link to a discussion last March that may be of interest: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-test-list&m=108304807037994&w=2 Regards, Mike Klinke From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Sep 4 16:33:03 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 18:33:03 +0200 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <4139E87D.9050305@gmx.de> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <604aa791040904074078b0fc0c@mail.gmail.com> <1094309946.15913.152.camel@T7.linux> <604aa791040904080479bb4d2@mail.gmail.com> <1094310879.15913.156.camel@T7.linux> <4139E87D.9050305@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4139EE3F.3040700@gmx.de> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > # yum -y update ; sleep 30s ; yum -y --obsolete update oops, should be # yum -y update yum ; sleep 30s ; yum -y --obsolete update -- shrek-m From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat Sep 4 17:23:23 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:23:23 +0200 Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094318600.1042.58.camel@one.myworld> Le ven 03/09/2004 ? 23:58, Elliot Lee a ?crit : > Hi all, > > I've just started uploading the latest "release candidate" for FC3test2. > This is __________________NOT__________________ the final FC3test2 tree. Where is the signed MD5SUM file ? Mine : 1d4f99aa8b7e11699104034838d675db FC3-re0903.0-i386-disc1-ftp.iso 3f45b170ac938ad2a17e5143c9c95d51 FC3-re0903.0-i386-disc2-ftp.iso 63b04b1185ba8c0f1478cefdef0772e9 FC3-re0903.0-i386-disc3-ftp.iso e3526b24a565e2aae676a0eab47fc0c2 FC3-re0903.0-i386-disc4-ftp.iso Install from the HD. Add to my grub.conf : title Fedore Core 3 T2(903) (Install) kernel /boot/vmlinuz ramdisk_size=8192 askmethod initrd /boot/initrd.img Boot, select language, select HD method ('/dev/hda1', '/fedora'), I see : starting anaconda ... ... starting X ... Black screen, and freeze (perhaps). lspci -s 01:00.0 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC AGP (rev 7a) See [1] for /var/log/Xorg.0.log (from _not_FC3t2). New try with 'text' method. Installation completed. Boot into "_not_FC3t2" and rhgb never exit. firstboot problem ? The last messages : Sep 4 17:58:06 localhost crond: D?marrage de crond succeeded Sep 4 17:58:08 localhost xfs: D?marrage de xfs succeeded Sep 4 17:58:09 localhost xfs[2690]: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled (unreadable) Sep 4 17:58:09 localhost xfs[2690]: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled (unreadable) Sep 4 17:58:09 localhost xfs[2690]: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo (unreadable) Sep 4 17:58:09 localhost anacron: D?marrage de anacron succeeded Sep 4 17:58:09 localhost atd: D?marrage de atd succeeded Sep 4 17:58:11 localhost gconfd (root-2730): d?marrage (version 2.7.92), pid 2730 utilisateur ? root ? Sep 4 17:58:11 localhost gconfd (root-2730): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0 Sep 4 17:58:11 localhost gconfd (root-2730): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/root/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 1 Sep 4 17:58:11 localhost gconfd (root-2730): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 2 "hard reset" and boot without 'rhgb quiet'. firstboot failed in module date : Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/firstboot/firstbootWindow.py", line 288, in nextClicked result = module.apply(self.notebook) File "/usr/share/firstboot/modules/date.py", line 94, in apply sysDate = self.datePage.getDate() AttributeError: childWindow instance has no attribute 'getDate' The sound is muted in firstboot for the second card. See [2] asound.state. Some "audit(...): avc: denied". See [3] dmesg. Selinux in enforcing mode. 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URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Sep 4 18:08:20 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:08:20 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <4139E87D.9050305@gmx.de> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094310879.15913.156.camel@T7.linux> <4139E87D.9050305@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200409041408.20765.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 04 September 2004 12:08, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: >yum -y update ; sleep 30s ; yum -y --obsolete update Doesn't work here, its stuck on samba because libcups.so.2 is not an rpm install. Samba would probably work if I could tell yum to ignore the deps on that one. To get that to work, I'd have to reinstall the rpms of a year+ old, badly broken cups build, so broken that just hovering the mouse over a printer related item in the kde popups will crash kde. But crashing kde must seem like a good idea to gnome-lover redhat, it hasn't been fixed yet. Installing a later, good version of cups fixes that unconditionally. That also means I'm still stuck on yum-2.0.7 It also means I'm stuck for no really good reason as gftp, when attempting to access the repo and grab this stuff anyway, needs a fscking password other than anonymous. Shame on redhat. This stuff is supposedly under the GPL and should be freely available. Accessing ayo.freshrpms.net can be done with gftp, but all files are zero length, before, and after, downloading them. Humm, found a http site halfway around the planet that let me in and got lots of that stuff. Includeing rpms of the cups I have installed. So I'll shut up for a bit. Maybe, just maybe, this will get me up2date with current FC2 installs... -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.25% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From reader at newsguy.com Sat Sep 4 18:28:45 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 13:28:45 -0500 Subject: [vsftpd] config changes not giving expected results Message-ID: Using newest (on rawhide) vsftpd, I'm finding that making certain config changes is not giving the expected results. This may be no different than earlier verisions.. I don't know because these changes were only tried recently. In the past I've had vsftpd.conf setup to allow anonymous login in and anymous upload and dir creation. With that setup I've discovered only recently that anonymous user cannot delete anything. I guessed it might be related to umask but changing the default (077) to 022 has had no effect. Can anyone see what is missing from my config below that would enable an anon user to delete stuff? Also these newly added things seem not to have any affect either: anon_root dual_log_enable With the set below my anon user cannot delete anything and is not put in /var/spool/ftp/pub on login. (Note: I've tried setting anon_root to just `pub' as well) My current settings with likely candidates shuffled to the top: anonymous_enable=YES anon_upload_enable=YES anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES anon_other_write_enable = YES anon_umask = 022 anon_root = /var/ftp/pub dual_log_enable = YES no_anon_password = YES log_ftp_protocol = YES local_enable=YES write_enable=YES local_umask=022 dirmessage_enable=YES xferlog_enable=YES connect_from_port_20=YES xferlog_file=/var/log/vsftpd.log ls_recurse_enable=YES pam_service_name=vsftpd userlist_enable=YES listen=YES tcp_wrappers=YES From reader at newsguy.com Sat Sep 4 18:30:41 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 13:30:41 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl Message-ID: How can I get yum to do a user type ftp login for the baseurl? It will need username and password at some point. From bobtest at lingpgmr.com Sat Sep 4 18:43:25 2004 From: bobtest at lingpgmr.com (Robert L Cochran) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:43:25 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> How do I deal with this error as a result of running 'yum -y --obsoletes update': Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed Thanks Bob Cochran Greenbelt, Maryland, USA On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 09:31 -0500, Mike Klinke wrote: > I'm guessing others will run into this with this morning's updates. > > "yum update" errored out and quit with the display below. > > ============ yum error ============= > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? > main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 94, in main > (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 130, > in buildTransaction > (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 157, > in resolveDeps > (checkdep, missing, conflict, errormsgs) = > self._processConflict(dep) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 351, > in _processConflict > msg = '%s conflicts: %s' % (name, > rpmUtils.miscutils.formatRequire(needname, needversion, flags)) > NameError: global name 'name' is not defined > > ===================================== > > I filed a bug which was quickly marked as closed due to the problem > having been fixed in the version of yum that "yum update" was going > to download and install this morning. I manually downloaded the > new yum rpm and installed it. After running the new yum I then > received the error: > > #yum update > ......... > Resolving Dependencies > Error: xorg-x11-font-utils conflicts: xorg-x11-base-fonts<= > 6.7.99.903-3 > > and after excluding "xorg-x11" the "yum update" then completed. I > presume that simply excluding "xorg-x11" would have allowed the yum > update with yesterday's version to complete. Hope this helps > someone else and I'm off to file a bug against "xorg-x11" if it > hasn't already been done. > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > From bartk at clara.co.uk Sat Sep 4 18:56:59 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:56:59 +0100 Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <413A0FFB.2060101@clara.co.uk> Just finnished installing on my "downed" FC3 test 1 did text update, grafical install hangs after anaconda tests for devices. Upgrade required 4 CD's, with 4 files needed form the final CD one being kernel-doc. System rebooted without any problems, during first boot I got whole lot of errors in the region of /DEV/..... sorry to be so vague but I've just booted up and I'm still writting form XP box before moving back to FC. quick install of drivers for NVIDIA card and all seems to be great. now do I dare rebooting ? Elliot Lee wrote: >Hi all, > >I've just started uploading the latest "release candidate" for FC3test2. >This is __________________NOT__________________ the final FC3test2 tree. >If you're interested in helping with testing for the FC3test2 milestone, >wait until it finishes uploading (there's 39G still to go, but hopefully >it will be done by tomorrow). > >Right now we're down to "no broken dependencies" and "might install". >You'll have to find out for yourself. :-) > >Especially useful would be reports on installs from CD or DVD. Unlike >rawhide, this tree has all the .iso images. > >Where to get it when it's uploaded? >http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0903.0/ > >Cheers, >-- Elliot >The daring is in the doing > >http://people.redhat.com/sopwith/ > > > > From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 4 19:16:02 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:16:02 -0500 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: <200409041416.02390.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 04 September 2004 13:43, Robert L Cochran wrote: > How do I deal with this error as a result of running > > 'yum -y --obsoletes update': > > Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already > installed > This is just a guess to get you past the error ..... will excluding that package offer any help? ( --exclude=katana* ) Regards, Mike Klinke From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Sep 4 19:22:56 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:22:56 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910409041222718a8fdd@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:43:25 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: > How do I deal with this error as a result of running > > 'yum -y --obsoletes update': > > Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed How do you deal with it? First... stop using -y option so you can review the list of packages that yum wants to install/upgrade. I think its unwise for anyone using development packages to be using the -y option and skipping the package list reviewing phase. If you are using test releases and development packages you need to be very aware of what you are installing, so you have a hope of narrowing down problems when not if they occur. Second... yum seems to be saying that katana package is already installed. Is it? Is the version of katana installed older than the version yum wants to install? -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Sep 4 19:26:33 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:26:33 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <200409041416.02390.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> <200409041416.02390.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <604aa791040904122668eba0f@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:16:02 -0500, Mike Klinke wrote: > This is just a guess to get you past the error ..... will excluding > that package offer any help? ( --exclude=katana* ) Depends on what needs to be helped. There are situations when an exclude is appropriate because of a REAL packaging error in rawhide. But please, don't suggest that as a cure, until that is confirmed via manual checking the dependacy chain. If Robert is hitting a corner case bug, that I'm not hitting, having him exclude katana to get around it does not help find the reason. The point of testing is to find the bugs and fix them, not work around them blindly. -jef From tdiehl at rogueind.com Sat Sep 4 19:55:27 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > How can I get yum to do a user type ftp login for the baseurl? > > It will need username and password at some point. How about something like this: ftp://username:your_passwd at ftp.yoursite.com/$releasever Tom From reader at newsguy.com Sat Sep 4 20:05:45 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 15:05:45 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: (Tom Diehl's message of "Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:55:27 -0400 (EDT)") References: Message-ID: Tom Diehl writes: > On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> How can I get yum to do a user type ftp login for the baseurl? >> It will need username and password at some point. Tom wrote: > How about something like this: ftp://username:your_passwd at ftp.yoursite.com/$releasever That might work if the ftp server was a real IP on the internet but addresses like ftp://... don't seem to work inside my non resolvalbe lan. ftp will find reader.local.net0 but not ftp://reader.local.net0 I wonder if there is a way to work a HERE document or something into the syntax? From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 4 20:16:46 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:16:46 -0500 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <604aa791040904122668eba0f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <200409041416.02390.lsomike@futzin.com> <604aa791040904122668eba0f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200409041516.46812.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 04 September 2004 14:26, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:16:02 -0500, Mike Klinke wrote: > > This is just a guess to get you past the error ..... will > > excluding that package offer any help? ( --exclude=katana* ) > > Depends on what needs to be helped. > There are situations when an exclude is appropriate because of a > REAL packaging error in rawhide. But please, don't suggest that > as a cure, until that is confirmed via manual checking the > dependacy chain. If Robert is hitting a corner case bug, that I'm > not hitting, having him exclude katana to get around it does not > help find the reason. The point of testing is to find the bugs > and fix them, not work around them blindly. > > -jef You are, of course, correct. I tend to work in smaller steps to a solution rather than larger ones. I think we'd both arrive at the same door although the particular steps to get there might differ; i.e. we would still have had to deal with the "duplicate" sooner or later. Carry on, you do good work too! Regards, Mike Klinke From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 4 20:30:56 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 21:30:56 +0100 Subject: Nabi and gconf-editor problems Message-ID: <1094329856.15913.169.camel@T7.linux> Hi, First off, how the fscking heck do I kill Nabi? I've tried going through system-monitor and killing the process, but the darned thing just restarts. Very annoying! (Yes, I've tried to quit it using the menu on the app). Second, gconf-editor seems to have died since moving to fc3t2. Anyone else seen this? TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bobtest at lingpgmr.com Sat Sep 4 21:45:00 2004 From: bobtest at lingpgmr.com (Robert L Cochran) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 17:45:00 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <604aa7910409041222718a8fdd@mail.gmail.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> <604aa7910409041222718a8fdd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1094334301.7198.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> Thanks for your advice, I'll quit using the -y option. Yes, katana is already installed, I'm not sure why yum wants to install it: Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed [root at rachelsp4 ~]# rpm -q katana katana-1.0.4-4 [root at rachelsp4 ~]# Bob On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 15:22 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:43:25 -0400, Robert L Cochran > wrote: > > How do I deal with this error as a result of running > > > > 'yum -y --obsoletes update': > > > > Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed > > How do you deal with it? > First... stop using -y option so you can review the list of packages > that yum wants to install/upgrade. > > I think its unwise for anyone using development packages to be using > the -y option and skipping the package list reviewing phase. If you > are using test releases and development packages you need to be very > aware of what you are installing, so you have a hope of narrowing down > problems when not if they occur. > > > Second... yum seems to be saying that katana package is already > installed. Is it? > Is the version of katana installed older than the version yum wants to install? > > -jef > > From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Sep 4 22:46:40 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 00:46:40 +0200 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <604aa7910409041222718a8fdd@mail.gmail.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> <604aa7910409041222718a8fdd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <413A45D0.7020807@gmx.de> Jeff Spaleta wrote: >On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:43:25 -0400, Robert L Cochran > wrote: > > >>How do I deal with this error as a result of running >> >>'yum -y --obsoletes update': >> >>Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed >> >> > >How do you deal with it? >First... stop using -y option so you can review the list of packages >that yum wants to install/upgrade. > > gnome-terminal: scroll up|down tty: [shift]+[pgup|pgdown] perhaps: yum -y update | mail -s yum root later: /var/log/yum.log sorry, i will not stand up at 03:00 just for pressing [y] > >I think its unwise for anyone using development packages to be using >the -y option and skipping the package list reviewing phase. If you >are using test releases and development packages you need to be very >aware of what you are installing, so you have a hope of narrowing down >problems when not if they occur. > > > i think it is unwise to use -y in a production environment >Second... yum seems to be saying that katana package is already >installed. Is it? >Is the version of katana installed older than the version yum wants to install? > >-jef > -- shrek-m From reader at newsguy.com Sat Sep 4 22:45:02 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 17:45:02 -0500 Subject: Strang df -h output Message-ID: My setup: *-- Software: Linux kernel 2.6.7-1.517 Architecture i686 Fedora Core release 2.90 (FC3 Test 1) Hardware: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz cpu MHz : 1994.800 *-- I'm seeing output from `df -h' that I've never seen before. Not sure when it started but I think it could only be a matter of days at most since I last ran `df -h' for some reason. Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [...] /dev/hda5 36G 20G 15G 58% /anex none 253M 0 253M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hdb9 7.6G 448M 6.7G 7% /home /dev/hda2 15G -64Z 15G 101% /mnt/pack /dev/hdb11 12G 4.6G 6.0G 44% /news [...] some unnecessary stuff snipped Note the strange output for /dev/hda2 (/mnt/pack) What on earth does that mean? That partition actually has 2.6 gigs of data on it by `du' reconning: du -sh /mnt/pack 2.6G /mnt/pack Its not a symlink or something: ls -ld /mnt/pack drwxr-xr-x 10 reader reader 4096 Sep 4 10:54 /mnt/pack So what is that output telling me? From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Sep 4 22:59:04 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 18:59:04 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <413A45D0.7020807@gmx.de> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> <604aa7910409041222718a8fdd@mail.gmail.com> <413A45D0.7020807@gmx.de> Message-ID: <604aa7910409041559cc19db7@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 00:46:40 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > later: > /var/log/yum.log this assumes the logging is working? do you know if the logging is working in the new yum code yet? > sorry, > i will not stand up at 03:00 just for pressing [y] Feel free to ignore any friendly advice offered in good faith. I would also suggest that automating nightly installs of development packages is not a good thing for a novice tester to be doing. -jef From david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au Sun Sep 5 00:11:58 2004 From: david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au (david walcroft) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:11:58 +1000 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <413A59CE.5020305@yahoo.com.au> Harry Putnam wrote: >>>How can I get yum to do a user type ftp login for the baseurl? >>>It will need username and password at some point. > > > Tom wrote: > >>How about something like this: ftp://username:your_passwd at ftp.yoursite.com/$releasever > > > That might work if the ftp server was a real IP on the internet but > addresses like ftp://... don't seem to work inside my non resolvalbe > lan. > > ftp will find reader.local.net0 but not ftp://reader.local.net0 > > I wonder if there is a way to work a HERE document or something into > the syntax? > > This is what I use in yum.conf and works every time. [updates-ftp] name=Fedora 2 planetmirror ftp Updates baseurl=ftp://user:passwd at premium.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/2/i386 david From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 00:31:27 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:31:27 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: <413A59CE.5020305@yahoo.com.au> (david walcroft's message of "Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:11:58 +1000") References: <413A59CE.5020305@yahoo.com.au> Message-ID: david walcroft writes: > [updates-ftp] > name=Fedora 2 planetmirror ftp Updates > baseurl=ftp://user:passwd at premium.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/2/i386 You probably hadn't seen my post yet detailing why that sort of address scheme doesn't work inside my [unresolvable via dns] lan. ftp apparently uses dns to find the host when address is of the `ftp://' type. So for me. ftp my.local.host works but ftp://ftp.my.local.host does not. Apparently the former searches no further than my /etc/hosts file and the later uses a dns lookup on line. So I'll need some kind of scheme to get the uid and passwd passed into the baseurl. any guesses? From michal at harddata.com Sun Sep 5 00:46:49 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 18:46:49 -0600 Subject: how to make a local repository after a yum update? Message-ID: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> With the old version of yum documentation basically said "run yum-arch on a directory with rpm packages and you are set". Now yum-arch is gone (although 'man yum' still tells you to look at 'man yum-arch', https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131807 ) There is something new in 'yum --help' called "generate-rss" which may be it. OK, let's try: # yum -c local.conf generate-rss Generating RSS File Setting up Repo: update repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 5] OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/mnt/spare/updates/packages/repodata/repomd.xml' Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: update failure: repodata/repomd.xml from update: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. Hm, we are just trying to generate that stuff so "No such file or directory" seems to be about normal. There is somethings which says "--rss-filename=[path/filename]", which is a bit weird as it obviously knows what it wants to read, but playing with that also brings no joy. Touching /mnt/spare/updates/packages/repodata/repomd.xml results in something even more creative: //var/cache/yum/update/repomd.xml:1: parser error : Document is empty Surprise! We are trying to generate it (or something close). In a total absence of a documentation I am somewhat reluctant to call that a bug and file in bugzilla. Should I? Michal From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 00:41:58 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:41:58 -0400 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa79104090417413c611cba@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 15:05:45 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > That might work if the ftp server was a real IP on the internet but > addresses like ftp://... don't seem to work inside my non resolvalbe > lan. > > ftp will find reader.local.net0 but not ftp://reader.local.net0 > > I wonder if there is a way to work a HERE document or something into > the syntax? Sounds like a limitation on urlgrabber that yum uses. This probably needs to be filed as a bug so that it can be fixed so lookups from the hosts file behave correctly. -jef From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 01:27:55 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 20:27:55 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: <604aa79104090417413c611cba@mail.gmail.com> (Jeff Spaleta's message of "Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:41:58 -0400") References: <604aa79104090417413c611cba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jeff Spaleta writes: >> ftp will find reader.local.net0 but not ftp://reader.local.net0 >> >> I wonder if there is a way to work a HERE document or something into >> the syntax? > > Sounds like a limitation on urlgrabber that yum uses. This probably > needs to be filed as a bug so that it can be fixed so lookups from the > hosts file behave correctly. Not sure I follow your reasoning here unless you are saying that yum should be able to handle ftp, ssh, smb etc connections that are not resolvable by dns. It is really ftp that is not working in the scheme I laid out. However it would be nice if there was provision in yum to pass a uid/passwd when connecting by ftp or ssh. Is that what you mean or would that be a request for enhancement or something? Anyway I found my solution by finally realizing I could use the http protocol and do it thru apache instead of ftp.... (A little slow here...) From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Sep 5 03:13:42 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 23:13:42 -0400 Subject: how to make a local repository after a yum update? In-Reply-To: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <200409042313.42382.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 04 September 2004 20:46, Michal Jaegermann wrote: >With the old version of yum documentation basically said >"run yum-arch on a directory with rpm packages and you are set". >Now yum-arch is gone (although 'man yum' still tells you to >look at 'man yum-arch', >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131807 ) > >There is something new in 'yum --help' called "generate-rss" which >may be it. OK, let's try: > ># yum -c local.conf generate-rss >Generating RSS File >Setting up Repo: update >repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 5] OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or >directory: '/mnt/spare/updates/packages/repodata/repomd.xml' >Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: update >failure: repodata/repomd.xml from update: [Errno 256] No more >mirrors to try. > >Hm, we are just trying to generate that stuff so "No such file or >directory" seems to be about normal. There is somethings which >says "--rss-filename=[path/filename]", which is a bit weird as >it obviously knows what it wants to read, but playing with that >also brings no joy. Touching > /mnt/spare/updates/packages/repodata/repomd.xml results in > something even more creative: > >//var/cache/yum/update/repomd.xml:1: parser error : Document is > empty > >Surprise! We are trying to generate it (or something close). > >In a total absence of a documentation I am somewhat reluctant >to call that a bug and file in bugzilla. Should I? > > Michal You at least have company, I went down that road also, and as you said, no joy... -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.25% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Sep 5 03:06:32 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 23:06:32 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <4139EE3F.3040700@gmx.de> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <4139E87D.9050305@gmx.de> <4139EE3F.3040700@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200409042306.33016.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 04 September 2004 12:33, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: >yum --obsolete update after putting in yum-2.1.3 with rpm after downloading it, I get this: [root at coyote packages]# yum --obsolete update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: updates-released repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: updates-released failure: repodata/repomd.xml from updates-released: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. And I get this same error regardless of the repo I try. Pointers? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.25% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au Sun Sep 5 03:17:27 2004 From: david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au (david walcroft) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 13:17:27 +1000 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: <413A59CE.5020305@yahoo.com.au> Message-ID: <413A8547.7030500@yahoo.com.au> Harry Putnam wrote: > david walcroft writes: > > >>[updates-ftp] >>name=Fedora 2 planetmirror ftp Updates >>baseurl=ftp://user:passwd at premium.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/2/i386 > > > You probably hadn't seen my post yet detailing why that sort of > address scheme doesn't work inside my [unresolvable via dns] lan. > > ftp apparently uses dns to find the host when address is of the > `ftp://' type. So for me. > ftp my.local.host > works but > ftp://ftp.my.local.host > does not. > > Apparently the former searches no further than my /etc/hosts file > and the later uses a dns lookup on line. > > So I'll need some kind of scheme to get the uid and passwd passed into > the baseurl. > > any guesses? > > oops :-] should have kept my mouth shut. david From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 5 04:42:30 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 00:42:30 -0400 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. Message-ID: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> Since I booted up using the latest kernel and ended up with a lot of file errors related to inodes, I'll be installing fresh. I noticed that my download time for the release candidate is scheduled to complete around noon tomorrow at current dl speed. Are there any torrents going or is there an alternate ftp server with the release candidate? Also, does X contain the latest patch for the i810 graphics controller? I wanted to know so I could determine if installing in text mode or graphics mode would be a better choice. Jim -- You're at the end of the road again. From talbotscott at cox.net Sun Sep 5 04:55:48 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 21:55:48 -0700 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <200409042306.33016.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <4139E87D.9050305@gmx.de> <4139EE3F.3040700@gmx.de> <200409042306.33016.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1094360148.3727.7.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 23:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 04 September 2004 12:33, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > >yum --obsolete update > > after putting in yum-2.1.3 with rpm after downloading it, I get this: > [root at coyote packages]# yum --obsolete update > Setting up Update Process > Setting up Repo: updates-released > repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: updates-released > failure: repodata/repomd.xml from updates-released: [Errno 256] No > more mirrors to try. > Did you mean to send this to the test-list? I don't believe that YUM-2.1.3 is ready for FC2 yet. If you're on test 1 though: Did you perhaps use a non - standard yum-conf ? recently YUM has gone through some changes and in order for a mirror to be useful, it must change the structure a little. One is the addition of the repomd.xml (I guess that is the repository maintenance data?) anyway the only mirror usable right now is: [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ HTH Scott > And I get this same error regardless of the repo I try. > > Pointers? > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > 99.25% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly > Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message > by Gene Heskett are: > Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. > > -- When in doubt -- Vote 'Em out! From balay at fastmail.fm Sun Sep 5 05:12:08 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 00:12:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: how to make a local repository after a yum update? In-Reply-To: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > With the old version of yum documentation basically said > "run yum-arch on a directory with rpm packages and you are set". with yum-2.1, the following appears to work: yum install createrepo using 'createrepo dir' instead of 'yum-arch dir' Satish From bavinic at comcast.net Sun Sep 5 04:59:54 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 00:59:54 -0400 Subject: Quake3 and FC3T1 Message-ID: <413A9D4A.9010706@comcast.net> In both FC3T1 and Fc2, using Kernel 2.6.8.x I can not longer run Quake3, on the FC2 if I change to 2.6.7.x kernel I can run it with no problems. any ideas? Below is a list of the out I get when trying to run it. thanks for any info you can offer. BaVinic Q3 1.11 linux-i386 Nov 24 1999 ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: /home/bavinic/.q3a/baseq3 ./baseq3/pak0.pk3 (3539 files) ./baseq3 ---------------------- execing default.cfg execing q3config.cfg couldn't exec autoexec.cfg ----- Client Initialization ----- ----- Initializing Renderer ---- ------------------------------- ----- Client Initialization Complete ----- --- Common Initialization Complete --- Opening IP socket: localhost:27960 Hostname: bvx.org IP: 209.208.224.74 ----- R_Init ----- ...loading libGL.so: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 3: 640 480 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 640x480 Using 4/4/4 Color bits, 24 depth, 0 stencil display. Initializing OpenGL extensions ...GL_S3_s3tc not found ...GL_EXT_texture_env_add not found ...using GL_ARB_multitexture ...GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array not found GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation GL_RENDERER: GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! GL_VERSION: 1.2 (1.5.1 NVIDIA 61.11) GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_INGR_blend_func_separate GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 4096 GL_MAX_ACTIVE_TEXTURES_ARB: 4 PIXELFORMAT: color(16-bits) Z(24-bit) stencil(0-bits) MODE: 3, 640 x 480 fullscreen hz:N/A GAMMA: software w/ 0 overbright bits CPU: rendering primitives: multiple glArrayElement texturemode: GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST picmip: 1 texture bits: 0 multitexture: enabled compiled vertex arrays: disabled texenv add: disabled compressed textures: disabled Initializing Shaders ...loading 'scripts/base.shader' ...loading 'scripts/base_button.shader' ...loading 'scripts/base_floor.shader' ...loading 'scripts/base_light.shader' ...loading 'scripts/base_object.shader' ...loading 'scripts/base_support.shader' ...loading 'scripts/base_trim.shader' ...loading 'scripts/base_wall.shader' ...loading 'scripts/common.shader' ...loading 'scripts/ctf.shader' ...loading 'scripts/eerie.shader' ...loading 'scripts/gfx.shader' ...loading 'scripts/gothic_block.shader' ...loading 'scripts/gothic_floor.shader' ...loading 'scripts/gothic_light.shader' ...loading 'scripts/gothic_trim.shader' ...loading 'scripts/gothic_wall.shader' ...loading 'scripts/hell.shader' ...loading 'scripts/liquid.shader' ...loading 'scripts/menu.shader' ...loading 'scripts/models.shader' ...loading 'scripts/organics.shader' ...loading 'scripts/sfx.shader' ...loading 'scripts/shrine.shader' ...loading 'scripts/skin.shader' ...loading 'scripts/sky.shader' ...loading 'scripts/test.shader' ----- finished R_Init ----- ------- sound initialization ------- ------------------------------------ ----- Sound Info ----- sound system is muted 1 stereo 32768 samples 16 samplebits 1 submission_chunk 22050 speed 0xf2d89000 dma buffer Forcing all sounds to 8 bit No background file. ---------------------- Loading dll file ui. Failed to load dll, looking for qvm. Loading vm file vm/ui.qvm. VM file ui compiled to 902626 bytes of code Received signal 11, exiting... From talbotscott at cox.net Sun Sep 5 05:00:37 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:00:37 -0700 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <200409042306.33016.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <4139E87D.9050305@gmx.de> <4139EE3F.3040700@gmx.de> <200409042306.33016.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1094360437.3727.9.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 23:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > after putting in yum-2.1.3 with rpm after downloading it, I get this: > [root at coyote packages]# yum --obsolete update > Setting up Update Process > Setting up Repo: updates-released > repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: updates-released > failure: repodata/repomd.xml from updates-released: [Errno 256] No > more mirrors to try. > Did you mean to send this to the test-list? I don't believe that YUM-2.1.3 is ready for FC2 yet. If you're on test 1 though: OOPS! didn't look close enough. Obviously you're on test list. Guess I'll go to bed Did you perhaps use a non - standard yum-conf ? recently YUM has gone through some changes and in order for a mirror to be useful, it must change the structure a little. One is the addition of the repomd.xml (I guess that is the repository maintenance data?) anyway the only mirror usable right now is: [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ HTH Scott > And I get this same error regardless of the repo I try. > > Pointers? > > -- -- When in doubt -- Vote 'Em out! From al at authentidate.de Sun Sep 5 06:51:31 2004 From: al at authentidate.de (Andreas Laumann) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 08:51:31 +0200 Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094367091.7818.33.camel@justine.inexnet.de> Yeah. something is really wrong with reporting disk usages since last few days rawhide updates. First seen after the famous gawk broke my initrd justine [8:34] root /etc#df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 41G 2.9G 36G 8% / none 632M 0 632M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda1 14G 8.4G 4.2G 67% /vmware btw same w/o -h Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 42829268 2947356 37706312 8% / none 646716 0 646716 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda1 13844044 8770988 4369816 67% /vmware Hmm last time i had ~10G free on / but now my partition has 36G free ??? My home dir on that partition contains 16796m of data justine [8:42] root /home/xl#du -ms . 16796 . Looks like a curvature of space on my disks ;) nice. Am Samstag, den 04.09.2004, 17:45 -0500 schrieb Harry Putnam: > My setup: > *-- > Software: > Linux kernel 2.6.7-1.517 Architecture i686 > Fedora Core release 2.90 (FC3 Test 1) > Hardware: > model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz > cpu MHz : 1994.800 > *-- > > I'm seeing output from `df -h' that I've never seen before. Not sure > when it started but I think it could only be a matter of days at most > since I last ran `df -h' for some reason. > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > [...] > /dev/hda5 36G 20G 15G 58% /anex > none 253M 0 253M 0% /dev/shm > /dev/hdb9 7.6G 448M 6.7G 7% /home > /dev/hda2 15G -64Z 15G 101% /mnt/pack > /dev/hdb11 12G 4.6G 6.0G 44% /news > [...] some unnecessary stuff snipped > > Note the strange output for /dev/hda2 (/mnt/pack) > What on earth does that mean? > > That partition actually has 2.6 gigs of data on it by `du' reconning: > > du -sh /mnt/pack > 2.6G /mnt/pack > > Its not a symlink or something: > > ls -ld /mnt/pack > drwxr-xr-x 10 reader reader 4096 Sep 4 10:54 /mnt/pack > > So what is that output telling me? > -- Man, n.: An animal so lost in rapturous contemplation of what he thinks e is as to overlook what he indubitably ought to be. His hief occupation is extermination of other animals and his own species, which, however, multiplies with such insistent apidity as to infest the whole habitable earth and Canada. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" -- From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 05:12:54 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 00:12:54 -0500 Subject: update FC3T1 isos Message-ID: I think this question has been asked and answered but maybe my search strings are taylored well enough to find it: Are the iso's for FC3T1 ever updated to include the many updates released since the first iso's were released? That is, if one installs from the original FC3T1 iso's it is a long row to get to the current updates... I wondered if the iso's are ever updated to avoid that. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 5 02:39:30 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:39:30 -0400 Subject: Inodes, X and selinux w/ 541 kernel Message-ID: <413A7C62.6060009@sbcglobal.net> I just tried to boot my test installation using the 541 kernel and recieved avc errors to the max and also could not start X. If I tried to start X, it would freeze up at the switch to graphics portion, then do nothing else. Attached is the xorg.0.log which may have logged up to the point of the computer hand. I guess installing a clean FC2 version for this installation, then trying FC3T2 is in the works for this system. If interested in the avc errors, there are two messages on the selinux list with the first boot errors, then an attempt to keep on going. (Time to reinstall though) Jim -- You're at the end of the road again. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Xorg.0.log Type: text/x-log Size: 32784 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Sep 5 08:08:48 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:08:48 -0400 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: <604aa79104090417413c611cba@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa79104090417413c611cba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1094371728.22904.2.camel@binkley> On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 20:41 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 15:05:45 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > That might work if the ftp server was a real IP on the internet but > > addresses like ftp://... don't seem to work inside my non resolvalbe > > lan. > > > > ftp will find reader.local.net0 but not ftp://reader.local.net0 > > > > I wonder if there is a way to work a HERE document or something into > > the syntax? > > Sounds like a limitation on urlgrabber that yum uses. This probably > needs to be filed as a bug so that it can be fixed so lookups from the > hosts file behave correctly. umm urlgrabber definitely supports ftp urls. more info on this would be appreciated in bugzilla. -sv From byte at aeon.com.my Sun Sep 5 08:18:57 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:18:57 +1000 Subject: how to make a local repository after a yum update? In-Reply-To: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1094372337.7455.85.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 10:46, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > With the old version of yum documentation basically said > "run yum-arch on a directory with rpm packages and you are set". > Now yum-arch is gone (although 'man yum' still tells you to > look at 'man yum-arch', > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131807 ) You now run "createrepo " rather than "yum-arch " > There is something new in 'yum --help' called "generate-rss" which > may be it. OK, let's try: This is to generate an RSS feed, like you'll see on Fedora People (http://fedoraproject.org/people/) > In a total absence of a documentation I am somewhat reluctant > to call that a bug and file in bugzilla. Should I? No don't. Its just that the old yum-arch method is gone, and there's a new metadata format, hence you have the createrepo bits Suggest searching for that in the fedora-devel-list archives for some more information about it... And I'm sure documentation will make itself more clearly out there in due time createrepo -h has help, and there's probably more "information" at http://linux.duke.edu/metadata/ -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From byte at aeon.com.my Sun Sep 5 08:19:45 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:19:45 +1000 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 14:42, Jim Cornette wrote: > Since I booted up using the latest kernel and ended up with a lot of > file errors related to inodes, I'll be installing fresh. What errors are you noticing? Seems to be fine here, on my ppc box > I noticed that my download time for the release candidate is scheduled > to complete around noon tomorrow at current dl speed. Are there any > torrents going or is there an alternate ftp server with the release > candidate? Don't think so, but you know there'll definitely be a torrent for FC3t2 when that gets released at the usual torrent location -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From byte at aeon.com.my Sun Sep 5 08:09:26 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:09:26 +1000 Subject: update FC3T1 isos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094371765.7455.71.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 15:12, Harry Putnam wrote: > Are the iso's for FC3T1 ever updated to include the many updates > released since the first iso's were released? No > That is, if one installs from the original FC3T1 iso's it is a long > row to get to the current updates... I wondered if the iso's are ever > updated to avoid that. You're going to have to update it, or just wait for the FC3T2 iso's (or mirror a tree, and roll your own!) -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Sep 5 08:07:05 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:07:05 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <1094334301.7198.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> <604aa7910409041222718a8fdd@mail.gmail.com> <1094334301.7198.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: <1094371625.22904.0.camel@binkley> On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 17:45 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: > Thanks for your advice, I'll quit using the -y option. > > Yes, katana is already installed, I'm not sure why yum wants to install > it: > > Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# rpm -q katana > katana-1.0.4-4 > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# I'd like to see a yum -d 5 of that process in bugzilla if you could. it would tell me a great deal, I'd like to know why katana is getting pulled in if it is already installed. thanks -sv From byte at aeon.com.my Sun Sep 5 08:32:09 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:32:09 +1000 Subject: FC3t2 via yum In-Reply-To: <1094299949.15913.56.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094299949.15913.56.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1094373129.7455.103.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 22:12, Paul wrote: > This is just a wild guess, but can I take it that my box is actually > running FC3t2 as I've run yum every night (like a good little man)? Or > have the repositories not been updated. If you have a "good" repository, then yes, you're probably running Rawhide latest (which when it rolls into an ISO, becomes fc3t2 at some stage) > I know when I reboot, my box is still claiming to be running FC2 and not > 3t1 Really? /etc/fedora-release should have been updated to saying you're running "Fedora Core release Rawhide (Rawhide)" -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From byte at aeon.com.my Sun Sep 5 08:30:19 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:30:19 +1000 Subject: Nabi and gconf-editor problems In-Reply-To: <1094329856.15913.169.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094329856.15913.169.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1094373019.7455.100.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 06:30, Paul wrote: > First off, how the fscking heck do I kill Nabi? I've tried going through > system-monitor and killing the process, but the darned thing just > restarts. Very annoying! (Yes, I've tried to quit it using the menu on > the app). No idea, this seems to bite me too, so I filed a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131817 > Second, gconf-editor seems to have died since moving to fc3t2. Anyone > else seen this? Nope, worksforme, with gconf-editor-2.7.91-1 -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Sep 5 09:50:37 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 05:50:37 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <1094360148.3727.7.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <200409042306.33016.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1094360148.3727.7.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <200409050550.37502.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Sunday 05 September 2004 00:55, Scott Talbot wrote: >On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 23:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Saturday 04 September 2004 12:33, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: >> >yum --obsolete update >> >> after putting in yum-2.1.3 with rpm after downloading it, I get >> this: [root at coyote packages]# yum --obsolete update >> Setting up Update Process >> Setting up Repo: updates-released >> repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found >> Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: updates-released >> failure: repodata/repomd.xml from updates-released: [Errno 256] No >> more mirrors to try. > > Did you mean to send this to the test-list? I don't believe that >YUM-2.1.3 is ready for FC2 yet. If you're on test 1 though: Duh! I'm subbed to both, and sort them to a common mailbox, sorry. > Did you perhaps use a non - standard yum-conf ? I put my repo list back in place after the 2.1.3 install overwrote it. >recently YUM has gone through some changes and in order for a mirror > to be useful, it must change the structure a little. One is the > addition of the repomd.xml (I guess that is the repository > maintenance data?) anyway the only mirror usable right now is: I went after 2.1.3 because of so many messages about 2.1.2 being fubar, and my own FC2 2.0.7 had quit working, always exiting with a library not available to upgrade samba. So samba is half busted here, I can mount my old 7.3 firewalls drives, but the firewall cannot mount my drives, something about the security model changing. As this was quite some time back, I haven't been able to use the yum util to keep the system up2date in a couple of months. So what version of yum should I have installed and *working* on an FC2 system? > >[development] >name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree >baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/deve >lopment/$basearch/ Which is the wrong branch for me, my bad. And I should seperate these lists into their own folder, but kmails folder list is more than screen high now. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.25% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 00:53:39 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:53:39 -0400 Subject: how to make a local repository after a yum update? In-Reply-To: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <604aa791040904175359015e3e@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 18:46:49 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > In a total absence of a documentation I am somewhat reluctant > to call that a bug and file in bugzilla. Should I? createrepo exists in the development tree now install createrepo and use it to generate the metadata for a local repository -jef From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 5 12:23:06 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 08:23:06 -0400 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <413B052A.9010602@sbcglobal.net> Colin Charles wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 14:42, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Since I booted up using the latest kernel and ended up with a lot of >>file errors related to inodes, I'll be installing fresh. > > > What errors are you noticing? Seems to be fine here, on my ppc box It booted up and had a lot of messages flashing by on the screen. I was running SELinux targeted and enforcing. After the initial boot. I tried to start X as a reqular user. This got the monitor to switch to graphics, but you could not ping the machine from another box or ssh into the computer. After a hard reset, there were many file errors relating to inodes. Then I was able to fsck and correct many inode errors and boot into a terminal. I then suspecting SELinux needing relabeling, ran fixfiles relabel in a tty. I then rebooted and X locked hard again (541). Trying to fsck again, then boot into an earlier kernel that was working fine also had many errors relating to inodes and even lost + found. At this point, I just decided to boot into another installation and reformat the test installation and mount it to download the test candidate into the newly created and large partition (7 gig) > > >>I noticed that my download time for the release candidate is scheduled >>to complete around noon tomorrow at current dl speed. Are there any >>torrents going or is there an alternate ftp server with the release >>candidate? > > > Don't think so, but you know there'll definitely be a torrent for FC3t2 > when that gets released at the usual torrent location It looks like the http transfer has slowed down to 14 KB/sec. This makes completion to be around 4PM. I guess I'll wait for it to complete. It's great that the ppc rawhide version is still working great. Jim From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun Sep 5 11:57:44 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 07:57:44 -0400 Subject: Shared Libraries corrupt after rawhide update Message-ID: <200409050757.44403.ernesto@ornl.gov> Hi, After the rawhide update yesterday, I used my system for about an hour or two. The last thing I did was lock the screen. Now next morning, I launch up2date and get an error: ================================================= /usr/lib/rpmio-4.3.so is not an ELF file ================================================= I thought maybe this was limited to up2date or rpm, however, it worse. If I type "ls", I get: =================================================== ls: relocation error: /lib/i686/librt.so.1: symbol __librt_multiple_threads, \ version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference. ======================================================== The next thing I did which was probably a huge mistake!! I ran ldconfig, oops: ldconfig reports some bad things like so: =========================================================== ldconfig:/lib/tls/librt.so.1 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. =========================================================== The above happens with 541 or 533 kernel. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a way arounf this avoiding a fresh install? -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group (865) 591-0183 ORNL From bobtest at lingpgmr.com Sun Sep 5 12:53:10 2004 From: bobtest at lingpgmr.com (Robert L Cochran) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 08:53:10 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <1094371625.22904.0.camel@binkley> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> <604aa7910409041222718a8fdd@mail.gmail.com> <1094334301.7198.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> <1094371625.22904.0.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1094388790.25681.3.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> I've tried entering a bug several times now in bugzilla and when I click the "Open Bugzilla Entry Form" button I'm greeted with a new window containing a perfectly blank page. I'll try again from my other machine later today. Meanwhile here is the yum -d -5 output: [root at rachelsp4 ~]# yum -d 5 --obsoletes update Yum Version: 2.1.3 COMMAND: yum -d 5 --obsoletes update Installroot: / Setting up Update Process Reading Local RPMDB Setting up Repo: development Baseurl(s) for repo: ['http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/'] repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files Setting up Package Sacks primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 943 kB 00:11 developmen: ################################################## 3513/3513 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.90 - Development Tree Building updates object Resolving Dependencies 1094386937.43 Adding Package katana - 1.0.4-4.noarch in mode u Adding Package fonts-xorg-base - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u Adding Package gnome-volume-manager - 0.9.10-2.i386 in mode u Adding Package gamin-devel - 0.0.9-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package gamin - 0.0.9-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package fonts-xorg-100dpi - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u Adding Package fonts-xorg-75dpi - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u Adding Package iiimf-libs-devel - 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891.i386 in mode u Adding Package iiimf-libs - 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891.i386 in mode u Adding Package gnome-vfs2-smb - 2.7.92-3.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11 - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-deprecated-libs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package yelp - 2.6.2-2.i386 in mode u Adding Package system-config-network - 1.3.20-1.noarch in mode u Adding Package shared-mime-info - 0.15-2.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-xauth - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package firstboot - 1.3.21-1.noarch in mode u Adding Package dev - 3.11-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-twm - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-xfs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-font-utils - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package gnome-vfs2 - 2.7.92-3.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-tools - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package gnome-media - 2.7.92-7.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-libs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package udev - 030-20.i386 in mode u Adding Package system-config-printer-gui - 0.6.111-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-devel - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package gnome-session - 2.7.91-2.i386 in mode u Adding Package system-config-printer - 0.6.111-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package dia - 1:0.94-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package system-config-network-tui - 1.3.20-1.noarch in mode u Adding Package desktop-file-utils - 0.8-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package urw-fonts - 2.2-3.noarch in mode u Dependencies Resolved 1094386940.76 [u] desktop-file-utils.i386 0:0.8-1 - user [u] dev.i386 0:3.11-1 - user [u] dia.i386 1:0.94-5 - user [u] firstboot.noarch 0:1.3.21-1 - user [u] fonts-xorg-100dpi.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] fonts-xorg-75dpi.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] fonts-xorg-base.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] gamin.i386 0:0.0.9-1 - user [u] gamin-devel.i386 0:0.0.9-1 - user [u] gnome-media.i386 0:2.7.92-7 - user [u] gnome-session.i386 0:2.7.91-2 - user [u] gnome-vfs2.i386 0:2.7.92-3 - user [u] gnome-vfs2-smb.i386 0:2.7.92-3 - user [u] gnome-volume-manager.i386 0:0.9.10-2 - user [u] iiimf-libs.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 - user [u] iiimf-libs-devel.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 - user [u] katana.noarch 0:1.0.4-4 - user [u] shared-mime-info.i386 0:0.15-2 - user [u] system-config-network.noarch 0:1.3.20-1 - user [u] system-config-network-tui.noarch 0:1.3.20-1 - user [u] system-config-printer.i386 0:0.6.111-1 - user [u] system-config-printer-gui.i386 0:0.6.111-1 - user [u] udev.i386 0:030-20 - user [u] urw-fonts.noarch 0:2.2-3 - user [u] xorg-x11.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-deprecated-libs.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-devel.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-font-utils.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-libs.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-tools.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-twm.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-xauth.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] xorg-x11-xfs.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user [u] yelp.i386 0:2.6.2-2 - user [o] fam.i386 0:2.6.10-11 - gamin.i386 0:0.0.9-1 [o] fam-devel.i386 0:2.6.10-11 - gamin-devel.i386 0:0.0.9-1 [o] iiimf-client-lib.i386 1:11.4-64.svn1772 - iiimf- libs.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 [o] iiimf-client-lib-devel.i386 1:11.4-64.svn1772 - iiimf-libs-devel.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 [o] iiimf-protocol-lib.i386 1:11.4-64.svn1772 - iiimf- libs.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 [o] iiimf-protocol-lib-devel.i386 1:11.4-64.svn1772 - iiimf-libs-devel.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 [o] magicdev.i386 0:1.1.6-2 - gnome-volume-manager.i386 0:0.9.10-2 [o] redhat-java-rpm-scripts.noarch 0:1.0.3-2 - katana.noarch 0:1.0.4-4 [o] xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts.i386 0:6.7.99.903-2 - fonts- xorg-100dpi.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 [o] xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts.i386 0:6.7.99.903-2 - fonts- xorg-75dpi.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 [o] xorg-x11-base-fonts.i386 0:6.7.99.903-2 - fonts- xorg-base.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 Is this ok [y/N]: y Running Transaction Test Adding Package katana - 1.0.4-4.noarch in mode u Adding Package fonts-xorg-base - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u Adding Package gnome-volume-manager - 0.9.10-2.i386 in mode u Adding Package gamin-devel - 0.0.9-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package gamin - 0.0.9-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package fonts-xorg-100dpi - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u Adding Package fonts-xorg-75dpi - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u Adding Package iiimf-libs-devel - 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891.i386 in mode u Adding Package iiimf-libs - 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891.i386 in mode u Adding Package gnome-vfs2-smb - 2.7.92-3.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11 - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-deprecated-libs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package yelp - 2.6.2-2.i386 in mode u Adding Package system-config-network - 1.3.20-1.noarch in mode u Adding Package shared-mime-info - 0.15-2.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-xauth - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package firstboot - 1.3.21-1.noarch in mode u Adding Package dev - 3.11-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-twm - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-xfs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-font-utils - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package gnome-vfs2 - 2.7.92-3.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-tools - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package gnome-media - 2.7.92-7.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-libs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package udev - 030-20.i386 in mode u Adding Package system-config-printer-gui - 0.6.111-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package xorg-x11-devel - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package gnome-session - 2.7.91-2.i386 in mode u Adding Package system-config-printer - 0.6.111-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package dia - 1:0.94-5.i386 in mode u Adding Package system-config-network-tui - 1.3.20-1.noarch in mode u Adding Package desktop-file-utils - 0.8-1.i386 in mode u Adding Package urw-fonts - 2.2-3.noarch in mode u Finished Transaction Test Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed ----------------------------------------------------------- My package versions: [root at rachelsp4 ~]# rpm -q yum yum-2.1.3-1 [root at rachelsp4 ~]# rpm -q katana katana-1.0.4-4 [root at rachelsp4 ~]# [root at rachelsp4 ~]# On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 04:07 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 17:45 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: > > Thanks for your advice, I'll quit using the -y option. > > > > Yes, katana is already installed, I'm not sure why yum wants to install > > it: > > > > Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed > > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# rpm -q katana > > katana-1.0.4-4 > > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# > > I'd like to see a yum -d 5 of that process in bugzilla if you could. > > > it would tell me a great deal, I'd like to know why katana is getting > pulled in if it is already installed. > > thanks > -sv > > > From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 12:30:54 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 07:30:54 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: <1094371728.22904.2.camel@binkley> (seth vidal's message of "Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:08:48 -0400") References: <604aa79104090417413c611cba@mail.gmail.com> <1094371728.22904.2.camel@binkley> Message-ID: seth vidal writes: > umm urlgrabber definitely supports ftp urls. > > more info on this would be appreciated in bugzilla. Did you see my respone to Jeff? Im not sure there is a url scheme for this usage. My setup is an internal ftp server with no (Internet) IP. That is, it has a local made up IP in the private range. 192.168.xxx.xxx = reader.local.net0. ftp has no provision for handing that url a uid and password in the url that I'm aware of. Shemes beginning ftp:// do not work in that case. Isn't that a short comming of ftp protocol or are you saying yum should fix that? If I were to run my own nameserver. I guess the problem would disappear. In any event I can cure my trouble by using the http protocol instead. http://reader.local.net0/fed3raw That url scheme works inside the lan long as I have the httpd server running on reader.local.net. No nameserver required. Someone give me more clue if this is bug material please. From cochranb at speakeasy.net Sun Sep 5 13:22:41 2004 From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 09:22:41 -0400 Subject: Problem with today's "yum update" In-Reply-To: <1094388790.25681.3.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> References: <200409040931.00124.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094323405.4545.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> <604aa7910409041222718a8fdd@mail.gmail.com> <1094334301.7198.2.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> <1094371625.22904.0.camel@binkley> <1094388790.25681.3.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: <1094390561.3089.0.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> It's bug #131831. On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 08:53, Robert L Cochran wrote: > I've tried entering a bug several times now in bugzilla and when I click > the "Open Bugzilla Entry Form" button I'm greeted with a new window > containing a perfectly blank page. I'll try again from my other machine > later today. Meanwhile here is the yum -d -5 output: > > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# yum -d 5 --obsoletes update > Yum Version: 2.1.3 > COMMAND: yum -d 5 --obsoletes update > Installroot: / > Setting up Update Process > Reading Local RPMDB > Setting up Repo: development > Baseurl(s) for repo: > ['http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/'] > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB > 00:00 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > Setting up Package Sacks > primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 943 kB > 00:11 > developmen: ################################################## 3513/3513 > Excluding Packages > Excluding Incompatible Archs > Finished > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.90 - Development Tree > Building updates object > Resolving Dependencies > 1094386937.43 > Adding Package katana - 1.0.4-4.noarch in mode u > Adding Package fonts-xorg-base - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u > Adding Package gnome-volume-manager - 0.9.10-2.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gamin-devel - 0.0.9-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gamin - 0.0.9-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package fonts-xorg-100dpi - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u > Adding Package fonts-xorg-75dpi - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u > Adding Package iiimf-libs-devel - 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891.i386 in mode u > Adding Package iiimf-libs - 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gnome-vfs2-smb - 2.7.92-3.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11 - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-deprecated-libs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package yelp - 2.6.2-2.i386 in mode u > Adding Package system-config-network - 1.3.20-1.noarch in mode u > Adding Package shared-mime-info - 0.15-2.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-xauth - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package firstboot - 1.3.21-1.noarch in mode u > Adding Package dev - 3.11-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-twm - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-xfs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-font-utils - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gnome-vfs2 - 2.7.92-3.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-tools - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gnome-media - 2.7.92-7.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-libs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package udev - 030-20.i386 in mode u > Adding Package system-config-printer-gui - 0.6.111-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-devel - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gnome-session - 2.7.91-2.i386 in mode u > Adding Package system-config-printer - 0.6.111-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package dia - 1:0.94-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package system-config-network-tui - 1.3.20-1.noarch in mode u > Adding Package desktop-file-utils - 0.8-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package urw-fonts - 2.2-3.noarch in mode u > > Dependencies Resolved > 1094386940.76 > [u] desktop-file-utils.i386 0:0.8-1 - user > [u] dev.i386 0:3.11-1 - user > [u] dia.i386 1:0.94-5 - user > [u] firstboot.noarch 0:1.3.21-1 - user > [u] fonts-xorg-100dpi.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] fonts-xorg-75dpi.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] fonts-xorg-base.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] gamin.i386 0:0.0.9-1 - user > [u] gamin-devel.i386 0:0.0.9-1 - user > [u] gnome-media.i386 0:2.7.92-7 - user > [u] gnome-session.i386 0:2.7.91-2 - user > [u] gnome-vfs2.i386 0:2.7.92-3 - user > [u] gnome-vfs2-smb.i386 0:2.7.92-3 - user > [u] gnome-volume-manager.i386 0:0.9.10-2 - user > [u] iiimf-libs.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 - user > [u] iiimf-libs-devel.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 - user > [u] katana.noarch 0:1.0.4-4 - user > [u] shared-mime-info.i386 0:0.15-2 - user > [u] system-config-network.noarch 0:1.3.20-1 - user > [u] system-config-network-tui.noarch 0:1.3.20-1 - user > [u] system-config-printer.i386 0:0.6.111-1 - user > [u] system-config-printer-gui.i386 0:0.6.111-1 - user > [u] udev.i386 0:030-20 - user > [u] urw-fonts.noarch 0:2.2-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-deprecated-libs.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-devel.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-font-utils.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-libs.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-tools.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-twm.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-xauth.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] xorg-x11-xfs.i386 0:6.7.99.903-5 - user > [u] yelp.i386 0:2.6.2-2 - user > [o] fam.i386 0:2.6.10-11 - gamin.i386 0:0.0.9-1 > [o] fam-devel.i386 0:2.6.10-11 - gamin-devel.i386 > 0:0.0.9-1 > [o] iiimf-client-lib.i386 1:11.4-64.svn1772 - iiimf- > libs.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 > [o] iiimf-client-lib-devel.i386 1:11.4-64.svn1772 - > iiimf-libs-devel.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 > [o] iiimf-protocol-lib.i386 1:11.4-64.svn1772 - iiimf- > libs.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 > [o] iiimf-protocol-lib-devel.i386 1:11.4-64.svn1772 - > iiimf-libs-devel.i386 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 > [o] magicdev.i386 0:1.1.6-2 - gnome-volume-manager.i386 > 0:0.9.10-2 > [o] redhat-java-rpm-scripts.noarch 0:1.0.3-2 - > katana.noarch 0:1.0.4-4 > [o] xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts.i386 0:6.7.99.903-2 - fonts- > xorg-100dpi.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 > [o] xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts.i386 0:6.7.99.903-2 - fonts- > xorg-75dpi.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 > [o] xorg-x11-base-fonts.i386 0:6.7.99.903-2 - fonts- > xorg-base.noarch 0:6.7.99.903-5 > Is this ok [y/N]: y > Running Transaction Test > Adding Package katana - 1.0.4-4.noarch in mode u > Adding Package fonts-xorg-base - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u > Adding Package gnome-volume-manager - 0.9.10-2.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gamin-devel - 0.0.9-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gamin - 0.0.9-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package fonts-xorg-100dpi - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u > Adding Package fonts-xorg-75dpi - 6.7.99.903-5.noarch in mode u > Adding Package iiimf-libs-devel - 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891.i386 in mode u > Adding Package iiimf-libs - 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gnome-vfs2-smb - 2.7.92-3.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11 - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-deprecated-libs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package yelp - 2.6.2-2.i386 in mode u > Adding Package system-config-network - 1.3.20-1.noarch in mode u > Adding Package shared-mime-info - 0.15-2.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-xauth - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package firstboot - 1.3.21-1.noarch in mode u > Adding Package dev - 3.11-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-twm - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-xfs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-font-utils - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gnome-vfs2 - 2.7.92-3.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-tools - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gnome-media - 2.7.92-7.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-libs - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package udev - 030-20.i386 in mode u > Adding Package system-config-printer-gui - 0.6.111-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package xorg-x11-devel - 6.7.99.903-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package gnome-session - 2.7.91-2.i386 in mode u > Adding Package system-config-printer - 0.6.111-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package dia - 1:0.94-5.i386 in mode u > Adding Package system-config-network-tui - 1.3.20-1.noarch in mode u > Adding Package desktop-file-utils - 0.8-1.i386 in mode u > Adding Package urw-fonts - 2.2-3.noarch in mode u > Finished Transaction Test > Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > My package versions: > > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# rpm -q yum > yum-2.1.3-1 > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# rpm -q katana > katana-1.0.4-4 > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# > > > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 04:07 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 17:45 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: > > > Thanks for your advice, I'll quit using the -y option. > > > > > > Yes, katana is already installed, I'm not sure why yum wants to install > > > it: > > > > > > Transaction Check Error: package katana-1.0.4-4 is already installed > > > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# rpm -q katana > > > katana-1.0.4-4 > > > [root at rachelsp4 ~]# > > > > I'd like to see a yum -d 5 of that process in bugzilla if you could. > > > > > > it would tell me a great deal, I'd like to know why katana is getting > > pulled in if it is already installed. > > > > thanks > > -sv > > > > > > > From kimmo.koivisto at surfeu.fi Sun Sep 5 14:10:09 2004 From: kimmo.koivisto at surfeu.fi (Kimmo Koivisto) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 17:10:09 +0300 Subject: how to make a local repository after a yum update? In-Reply-To: <1094372337.7455.85.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> <1094372337.7455.85.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <200409051710.10014.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> On Sunday 05 September 2004 11:18, Colin Charles wrote: > You now run "createrepo " rather than "yum-arch " Is there any way to generate such repository with createrepo, that older yum versions (that require headers directory with separate header files) would work? Regards Kimmo Koivisto From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 12:34:16 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 07:34:16 -0500 Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: <1094367091.7818.33.camel@justine.inexnet.de> (Andreas Laumann's message of "Sun, 05 Sep 2004 08:51:31 +0200") References: <1094367091.7818.33.camel@justine.inexnet.de> Message-ID: Andreas Laumann writes: > Looks like a curvature of space on my disks ;) nice. hehe... have you seen anything like the `-64Z' I posted. Wonder what Z stands for anyway? From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Sun Sep 5 14:25:20 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040905142520.56939.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> >hehe... have you seen anything like the `-64Z' I posted. >Wonder what Z stands for anyway? They are powers of ten: 1. Kilo 2. Mega 3. Giga 4. Tera 5. Peta 6. Exa 7. Zetta 8. Yotta A drive with 64Z would be worth hanging on to. :) -Steve Grubb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From michal at harddata.com Sun Sep 5 15:08:39 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 09:08:39 -0600 Subject: how to make a local repository after a yum update? In-Reply-To: <200409051710.10014.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi>; from kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi on Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 05:10:09PM +0300 References: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> <1094372337.7455.85.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051710.10014.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> Message-ID: <20040905090839.A4472@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 05:10:09PM +0300, Kimmo Koivisto wrote: > On Sunday 05 September 2004 11:18, Colin Charles wrote: > > You now run "createrepo " rather than "yum-arch " > > Is there any way to generate such repository with createrepo, that older yum > versions (that require headers directory with separate header files) would > work? I did not play with that yet (I was away for about a week, I am catching up with the program and it shows :-) but it looks to me that both types of an information do not collide. So you would need to run both createrepo and yum-arch on the same directory and that would make it available to both types of clients. Maybe createrepo has an option to generate "old style" headers too? It would be really nice if it did. Michal From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 15:00:46 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:00:46 -0500 Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: <20040905142520.56939.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> (Steve G.'s message of "Sun, 5 Sep 2004 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT)") References: <20040905142520.56939.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steve G writes: >>hehe... have you seen anything like the `-64Z' I posted. >>Wonder what Z stands for anyway? > > They are powers of ten: > > 1. Kilo > 2. Mega > 3. Giga > 4. Tera > 5. Peta > 6. Exa > 7. Zetta > 8. Yotta > > A drive with 64Z would be worth hanging on to. :) But the showstopper reported was -64Z.... hehe From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Sun Sep 5 16:19:23 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:19:23 -0400 Subject: Shared Libraries corrupt after rawhide update In-Reply-To: <200409050757.44403.ernesto@ornl.gov> References: <200409050757.44403.ernesto@ornl.gov> Message-ID: <1094401164.27667.8.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 07:57 -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > The above happens with 541 or 533 kernel. > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a way arounf this avoiding a fresh > install? > > Well, someone else reported filesystem corruption (this also happened to me, but my system apparently survived) with the kernel 541, so it might be related. -- Ricardo Veguilla From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 14:13:26 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 09:13:26 -0500 Subject: yumming up down to for loop Message-ID: I'm having so much trouble getting updated with yum that I've now resorted to marching lists of updates produced by yum thru a for loop where I can cancel errors and go on to next. A big slowdown is rereading the repmod.xml data (or what ever) that is read at the start of each update. I'm using a for loop with: yum -y update $pkg and slowly getting quite a few updated. Since the repo is on my internal lan its not costing too much bandwidth but still, someway to save that reparse on each loop would really speed it up. From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Sun Sep 5 16:26:22 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:26:22 -0400 Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: References: <1094367091.7818.33.camel@justine.inexnet.de> Message-ID: <1094401583.27667.12.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 07:34 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Andreas Laumann writes: > > > Looks like a curvature of space on my disks ;) nice. > > hehe... have you seen anything like the `-64Z' I posted. I was getting a -16Z but I didn't noticed until earlier today. -- Ricardo Veguilla From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Sun Sep 5 16:33:08 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:33:08 -0400 Subject: about bug #131761 (dev package not installing) Message-ID: <1094401988.27667.17.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> I searched the list archive and found some previous discussions that ended with this bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131761 Is there any solution or workaround for this? -- Ricardo Veguilla From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sun Sep 5 16:47:48 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:47:48 -0400 Subject: Missing images/* in rawhide Message-ID: <20040905164748.GA598@wolves.durham.nc.us> Yesterday's update broke rawhide badly, the contents of the images/ directory (boot.iso and others) are gone! Will tonight's rebuild fix it? BTW; I couldn't boot the previous set of images, the X server froze with no error indications on my test box. (AMD K6/2; ATI Mach 64; tulip ethernet; standard IDE drives and CD-RW drive;320MB) -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From tdiehl at rogueind.com Sun Sep 5 16:56:47 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Tom Diehl writes: > > > On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > >> How can I get yum to do a user type ftp login for the baseurl? > >> It will need username and password at some point. > > Tom wrote: > > How about something like this: ftp://username:your_passwd at ftp.yoursite.com/$releasever > > That might work if the ftp server was a real IP on the internet but > addresses like ftp://... don't seem to work inside my non resolvalbe > lan. Even if you do not have a nameserver running, if you have entries in /etc/hosts this should work. Something else sounds weird here. > ftp will find reader.local.net0 but not ftp://reader.local.net0 > > I wonder if there is a way to work a HERE document or something into > the syntax? Not that I know of but one thing I do here is setup autofs to allow things like "cd /machinename/yumrepo" to work. That way you avoid the use of ftp on the internal network. No passwds etc. nfs and autofs are trivial to setup these days. Just mount them read only. Yum works very well in this configuration. HTH, Tom From balay at fastmail.fm Sun Sep 5 17:12:19 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:12:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: <1094401583.27667.12.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> References: <1094367091.7818.33.camel@justine.inexnet.de> <1094401583.27667.12.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 07:34 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Andreas Laumann writes: > > > > > Looks like a curvature of space on my disks ;) nice. > > > > hehe... have you seen anything like the `-64Z' I posted. > > I was getting a -16Z but I didn't noticed until earlier today. FWIW I've also seen wierd numbers for /boot partition (du -sk was fine - but df showed 101% full or something like that). I noticed this after the boot issues with module-tools (and reverting back to 533) I've repartitioned this disk since then - and did a fresh install off boo.iso/rawhide - which is working fine with kernel-541 Satish From fedora at warmcat.com Sun Sep 5 09:23:36 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 10:23:36 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 05 September 2004 09:19, Colin Charles wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 14:42, Jim Cornette wrote: > > Since I booted up using the latest kernel and ended up with a lot of > > file errors related to inodes, I'll be installing fresh. > > What errors are you noticing? Seems to be fine here, on my ppc box "Seems to be fine" on machines here... but... I noticed that df -h filesystem usage does NOT match du -h -x / for the root fs. Then I noticed that the boot partition df -h is completely broken... [root at fastcat /]# du -h -x / ... 31G / <--- expected [root at fastcat /]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc2 36G 25G 9.2G 74% / /dev/hdc1 99M -16Z 101M 101% /boot ... [root at fastcat /]# umount /boot [root at fastcat /]# /sbin/e2fsck -f /dev/hdc1 e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity Pass 4: Checking reference counts Pass 5: Checking group summary information Free blocks count wrong for group #5 (37125, counted=7751). Fix? yes Free blocks count wrong (107846, counted=78472). Fix? yes /boot: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /boot: 71/26104 files (18.3% non-contiguous), 25916/104388 blocks [root at fastcat /]# /sbin/e2fsck -f /dev/hdc1 e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity Pass 4: Checking reference counts Pass 5: Checking group summary information /boot: 71/26104 files (18.3% non-contiguous), 25916/104388 blocks [root at fastcat /]# mount /dev/hdc1 /boot [root at fastcat /]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc2 36G 25G 9.2G 73% / /dev/hdc1 99M 23M 72M 24% /boot ... I had a big blowup on the filesystem on my mail machine the other week, normal functioning until a machine freeze, on reboot into init=/bin/bash and doing a /sbin/e2fsck -f on it there were loads and loads of errors translating to random files being deleted. The root filesystem stats above are after similarly booting this (so far, working) machine into init=/bin/bash and doing e2fsck twice to be certain there were no errors after fixes -- there was no errors reported the second time. But df -h results are WRONG. This is with selinux=0, although somewhere along the line this was lost from the kernel commandline for newer kernels. VERY WORRYING!!!!!! - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBOtscjKeDCxMJCTIRAki4AJ9AisZT2XNX23rUDND2mrCyTSmYVwCff8k+ IH08utAHUHWXzNMoyURtpbQ= =BeNh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 17:48:21 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:48:21 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: (Tom Diehl's message of "Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:56:47 -0400 (EDT)") References: Message-ID: Tom Diehl writes: >> Tom wrote: >> > How about something like this: ftp://username:your_passwd at ftp.yoursite.com/$releasever >> >> That might work if the ftp server was a real IP on the internet but >> addresses like ftp://... don't seem to work inside my non resolvalbe >> lan. > > Even if you do not have a nameserver running, if you have entries in /etc/hosts this > should work. Something else sounds weird here. I've never seen that to be true here. my /etc/hosts on remote client has: -- 192.168.0.4 reader.local.net0 reader # fedcore3 t1 -- ftp reader.local.net0 works as expected for anonymous login and However: ftp ftp://reader.local.net0 gives me: [root at expfc cf]# ftp ftp://reader.local.net0 ftp: ftp://reader.local.net0: Name or service not known ftp> while: ftp reader.local.net0 Connected to reader.local.net0 (192.168.0.4). 220 (vsFTPd 2.0.1) Name (reader.local.net0:reader): Connects as expected. I see something I hadn't noticed here today. ncftp can do what I wanted ... so its apparently a shortcoming of the standard ftp client. (password obscured for posting) ncftp ftp://reader:xxxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw does connect as expected. But `ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw used as baseurl in yum.conf fails: yum list updates Yum Version: 2.1.3 COMMAND: yum list updates Installroot: / Reading Local RPMDB Setting up Repo: development Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw'] repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development failure: repodata/repomd.xml from development: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Sep 5 18:07:05 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:07:05 -0500 Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: References: <1094401583.27667.12.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: <200409051307.05985.lsomike@futzin.com> On Sunday 05 September 2004 12:12, Satish Balay wrote: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 07:34 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > Andreas Laumann writes: > > > > Looks like a curvature of space on my disks ;) nice. > > > > > > hehe... have you seen anything like the `-64Z' I posted. > > > > I was getting a -16Z but I didn't noticed until earlier today. > > FWIW I've also seen wierd numbers for /boot partition (du -sk was > fine - but df showed 101% full or something like that). I noticed > this after the boot issues with module-tools (and reverting back > to 533) > > I've repartitioned this disk since then - and did a fresh install > off boo.iso/rawhide - which is working fine with kernel-541 > > Satish My first indication was on Sep 1 when I received this: /dev/hda1 (/boot) is 101% full -- -16Z of 99M used, 104M remain This was immediately after having updated FC3T1 with with a large batch of new packages including the dev-3.9.2-1.i386.rpm and kernel-2.6.8-1.538.i686.rpm packages, both of which proved unusable on my machine (and may be simply a co-incidence). Since my configuration is a dual boot between FC3T1 and FC1, which share a common boot partition, the fact that I receive the above message in FC1 tells me it's not a problem with the "df" utility but rather something that's gotten hosed in the disk's partition information because of something that happened during or after the FC3T1 update. Regards, Mike Klinke From jeff at ollie.clive.ia.us Sun Sep 5 18:28:25 2004 From: jeff at ollie.clive.ia.us (Jeffrey C. Ollie) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 13:28:25 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 12:48 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > ftp ftp://reader.local.net0 gives me: > > [root at expfc cf]# ftp ftp://reader.local.net0 > ftp: ftp://reader.local.net0: Name or service not known > [...] > so its apparently a shortcoming of the standard ftp client. Yes, the standard "ftp" client does not support URLs. > But `ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw > used as baseurl in yum.conf fails: This is not a valid URL. As you can see from the following example: >>> import urlparse >>> urlparse.urlparse('ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw') ('ftp', 'reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~', '/no_bak/fedraw', '', '', '') Python is interpreting the '~' as part of the hostname, not as part of the path. Try using something like: ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/home/no_bak/fedraw Note that you should use the full path and not the '~' expansion. Jeff Ollie -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Sep 5 18:36:13 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:36:13 -0500 Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: <200409051307.05985.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409051307.05985.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <200409051336.13275.lsomike@futzin.com> On Sunday 05 September 2004 13:07, Mike Klinke wrote: > My first indication was on Sep 1 when I received this: > > /dev/hda1 (/boot) is 101% full -- -16Z of 99M used, 104M remain > > This was immediately after having updated FC3T1 with with a large > batch of new packages including the dev-3.9.2-1.i386.rpm and > kernel-2.6.8-1.538.i686.rpm packages, both of which proved > unusable on my machine (and may be simply a co-incidence). Since > my configuration is a dual boot between FC3T1 and FC1, which > share a common boot partition, the fact that I receive the above > message in FC1 tells me it's not a problem with the "df" utility > but rather something that's gotten hosed in the disk's partition > information because of something that happened during or after > the FC3T1 update. > > Regards, Mike Klinke Oops, the troublesome dev-* package for me was dev-3.11-1.i386.rpm (Sep 3rd) not the one listed above. Here's a list of the files that were installed on Sep 1. http://www.futzin.com/Sep1Files.txt Regards, Mike Klinke From jreiser at BitWagon.com Sun Sep 5 19:22:41 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:22:41 -0700 Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <413B6781.8040902@BitWagon.com> > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0903.0/ My md5sums of the downloaded install CD-ROM images are: 1d4f99aa8b7e11699104034838d675db FC3-re0903.0-i386-disc1-ftp.iso 3f45b170ac938ad2a17e5143c9c95d51 FC3-re0903.0-i386-disc2-ftp.iso 63b04b1185ba8c0f1478cefdef0772e9 FC3-re0903.0-i386-disc3-ftp.iso e3526b24a565e2aae676a0eab47fc0c2 FC3-re0903.0-i386-disc4-ftp.iso Mediacheck on the burned CD-ROMs fails, perhaps because kernel-2.6.8-1.541 truncates the device; the same physical CD-ROMs pass mediacheck on RHEL3 WS. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131858 Setting the date in firstboot crashes. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131812 Graphical install from CD-ROM hangs when starting X11; text install succeeds. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131813 Text install of multiple ethernet interfaces is a shot in the dark. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131814 Text install of SELinux is confusing. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131815 Selecting a monitor in firstboot is confusing. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131816 -- John Reiser From janina at rednote.net Sun Sep 5 19:25:45 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 15:25:45 -0400 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040905192545.GA3541@rednote.net> Andy Green writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sunday 05 September 2004 09:19, Colin Charles wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 14:42, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > Since I booted up using the latest kernel and ended up with a lot of > > > file errors related to inodes, I'll be installing fresh. > > > > What errors are you noticing? Seems to be fine here, on my ppc box > > "Seems to be fine" on machines here... but... I noticed that df -h filesystem > usage does NOT match du -h -x / for the root fs. Then I noticed that the > boot partition df -h is completely broken... > I can get a kernel oops from intense disk writes/reads. On the other hand, heavy CPU usage seems fine. So, I think there's something funky about disk i/o as well. From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Sep 5 19:36:17 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 14:36:17 -0500 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> On Sunday 05 September 2004 04:23, Andy Green wrote: > > What errors are you noticing? Seems to be fine here, on my ppc > > box > > "Seems to be fine" on machines here... but... I noticed that df > -h filesystem usage does NOT match du -h -x / for the root fs. > Then I noticed that the boot partition df -h is completely > broken... > > [root at fastcat /]# du -h -x / > ... > 31G / <--- expected > > > [root at fastcat /]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hdc2 36G 25G 9.2G 74% / > /dev/hdc1 99M -16Z 101M 101% /boot > ... > Andy, I don't know if you've seen it or not but another thread: "Strang df -h output" carries comments about the odd /boot sizes. I know I saw this prior to the 541 kernel release as I noted in that thread. Regards, Mike Klinke From sopwith at redhat.com Sun Sep 5 20:18:52 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <1094281671.20649.127.camel@one.myworld> References: <1094281671.20649.127.camel@one.myworld> Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Matias Feliciano wrote: > New layout. > something new or something broken ? This is just the way trees get created - the format trees are released in is different. This layout will still work fine for testing, and that's all I wanted. :) -- Elliot The daring is in the doing http://people.redhat.com/sopwith/ From sopwith at redhat.com Sun Sep 5 20:19:17 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <4139C236.5090709@earthlink.net> References: <4139C236.5090709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Gerry Tool wrote: > I just tried to get to the DVD and see it isn't there yet. There are CD > images for disc1 through disc8 rather than the usual 4 binary discs and > source disks. How many and which ones are required for an install? discs 1-4 are binary, discs 5-8 are source. -- Elliot The daring is in the doing http://people.redhat.com/sopwith/ From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Sep 5 20:28:48 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 15:28:48 -0500 Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: References: <1094401583.27667.12.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: <200409051528.48334.lsomike@futzin.com> On Sunday 05 September 2004 12:12, Satish Balay wrote: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 07:34 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > Andreas Laumann writes: > > > > Looks like a curvature of space on my disks ;) nice. > > > > > > hehe... have you seen anything like the `-64Z' I posted. > > > > I was getting a -16Z but I didn't noticed until earlier today. > > FWIW I've also seen wierd numbers for /boot partition (du -sk was > fine - but df showed 101% full or something like that). I noticed > this after the boot issues with module-tools (and reverting back > to 533) > > I've repartitioned this disk since then - and did a fresh install > off boo.iso/rawhide - which is working fine with kernel-541 > > Satish Looks like someone filed a related bug yesterday ... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131782 Regards, Mike Klinke From tdiehl at rogueind.com Sun Sep 5 20:31:27 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Tom Diehl writes: > > >> Tom wrote: > >> > How about something like this: ftp://username:your_passwd at ftp.yoursite.com/$releasever > >> > >> That might work if the ftp server was a real IP on the internet but > >> addresses like ftp://... don't seem to work inside my non resolvalbe > >> lan. > > > > Even if you do not have a nameserver running, if you have entries in /etc/hosts this > > should work. Something else sounds weird here. > > I've never seen that to be true here. > > my /etc/hosts on remote client has: > -- > 192.168.0.4 reader.local.net0 reader # fedcore3 t1 > -- > > ftp reader.local.net0 > works as expected for anonymous login and > > However: > > ftp ftp://reader.local.net0 gives me: Ok, but Yum uses the urlgrabber to resolve the ftp://stuff not a particular ftp client. It works on my local network and externally. Granted I have a working name server on my internal network. Maybe you should ask on the yum list if the urlgrabber is expected to work with /etc/hosts? If it is not working as expected then I would recommend doing as Seth suggested and file a bug here: http://devel.linux.duke.edu/bugzilla/ HTH, Tom From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Sun Sep 5 20:32:43 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 21:32:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: about bug #131761 (dev package not installing) In-Reply-To: <1094401988.27667.17.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> References: <1094401988.27667.17.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > I searched the list archive and found some previous discussions that > ended with this bug report: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131761 > > Is there any solution or workaround for this? You can boot from a kernel that had udev disabled (I think 533 or 535) and then do it, but basically if you can't install/upgrade dev, you aren't using it anyway, so it isn't going to matter whether it is installed or up to date. Michael Young From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Sun Sep 5 20:41:59 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 16:41:59 -0400 Subject: about bug #131761 (dev package not installing) In-Reply-To: References: <1094401988.27667.17.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: <1094416920.27667.28.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 21:32 +0100, M A Young wrote: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > > > I searched the list archive and found some previous discussions that > > ended with this bug report: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131761 > > > > Is there any solution or workaround for this? > > You can boot from a kernel that had udev disabled (I think 533 or 535) and > then do it, but basically if you can't install/upgrade dev, you aren't > using it anyway, so it isn't going to matter whether it is installed or up > to date. > > Michael Young > Ok, thats what I thought. On the other hand, will it be safe to remove the dev package currently installed in my system? -- Ricardo Veguilla From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Sun Sep 5 20:35:43 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 16:35:43 -0400 Subject: Strang df -h output In-Reply-To: References: <1094367091.7818.33.camel@justine.inexnet.de> <1094401583.27667.12.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: <1094416543.27667.26.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 12:12 -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > > > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 07:34 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > Andreas Laumann writes: > > > > > > > Looks like a curvature of space on my disks ;) nice. > > > > > > hehe... have you seen anything like the `-64Z' I posted. > > > > I was getting a -16Z but I didn't noticed until earlier today. > > FWIW I've also seen wierd numbers for /boot partition (du -sk was fine > - but df showed 101% full or something like that). I noticed this > after the boot issues with module-tools (and reverting back to 533) > > I've repartitioned this disk since then - and did a fresh install off > boo.iso/rawhide - which is working fine with kernel-541 > > Satish > > Exactly the same case: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 9.7G 8.1G 1.1G 89% / /dev/hda2 190M -16Z 306M 101% /boot I repartitioned the /boot partition to fix it. I didn't have any problem with module-init-tools-3.1-0.pre5.1, because I noticed the problem before rebooting I reinstalled the previous version. In may case this happened after installing kernel 541. Don't know if its related but package "dev-3.11-1" fails to install in here. -- Ricardo Veguilla From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 20:53:26 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 15:53:26 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> (Jeffrey C. Ollie's message of "Sun, 05 Sep 2004 13:28:25 -0500") References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> Message-ID: "Jeffrey C. Ollie" writes: >> But `ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw >> used as baseurl in yum.conf fails: > > This is not a valid URL. As you can see from the following example: > > >>> import urlparse > >>> urlparse.urlparse('ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw') > ('ftp', 'reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~', '/no_bak/fedraw', '', '', '') > > Python is interpreting the '~' as part of the hostname, not as part of the path. Try using something like: > > ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/home/no_bak/fedraw > > Note that you should use the full path and not the '~' expansion. Ahh I see I've overlooked some stuff. Trying your formula a connection is made so I see now that the url scheme is supported by yum. However I still get a failed to change dir ftp error. In this scheme: ftp://reader:xxxxx at reader.local.net0/home/reader/no_bak/fedraw (password obfuscated for mailing) `fedraw' is actually a symlink to /mnt/pack/fedraw (Which is also chowned reader:reader) But I see from yum output that the address worked or at least the address was seen correctly: yum list updates Yum Version: 2.1.3 COMMAND: yum list updates Installroot: / Reading Local RPMDB Setting up Repo: development Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxx7 at reader.local.net0/home/reader/no_bak/fedraw'] repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development [...] So I thought maybe it was because of the symlink But.. This scheme: ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/mnt/pack/fedraw Gets the same ftp error. yum list updates Yum Version: 2.1.3 COMMAND: yum list updates Installroot: / Reading Local RPMDB Setting up Repo: development Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/mnt/pack/fedraw'] repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development failure: repodata/repomd.xml from development: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to tr I'm a little gun shy now calling this a yum problem. Do you see further bumbling on my part? From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 20:30:50 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:30:50 -0400 Subject: Anyone having trouble printing with gimp using the test release or development tree? Message-ID: <604aa791040905133041748ed2@mail.gmail.com> So im getting around to actually use the gimp for something on the development box. And I can't seem to print from the gimp. I see the printjob in the lpq output as active, but the printer itself remains idle, and then the printjob appears to be cleanly removed from the printque. Now if I print to a ps file from the gimp, and then print that ps file from ggv printing works as expected. Anyone else seeing this behavior in the gimp with a box synced against the development tree? Anyone seeing any non-printing behavior from other applications? -jef From mike at netlyncs.com Sun Sep 5 21:33:56 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 16:33:56 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> Message-ID: <1094420036.5734.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 15:53 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > But I see from yum output that the address worked or at least the > address was seen correctly: > > yum list updates > Yum Version: 2.1.3 > COMMAND: yum list updates > Installroot: / > Reading Local RPMDB > Setting up Repo: development > Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxx7 at reader.local.net0/home/reader/no_bak/fedraw'] > repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development > [...] > > So I thought maybe it was because of the symlink > But.. > This scheme: > ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/mnt/pack/fedraw > > Gets the same ftp error. > > yum list updates > Yum Version: 2.1.3 > COMMAND: yum list updates > Installroot: / > Reading Local RPMDB > Setting up Repo: development > Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/mnt/pack/fedraw'] > repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development > failure: repodata/repomd.xml from development: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to tr > > I'm a little gun shy now calling this a yum problem. Do you see > further bumbling on my part? Actually, I got the same errors trying to connect to Dag's and FreshRPM's sites, and they are http URL's. I think this is maybe the newer 2.1 yum packages and those sites not compat with them yet or something? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 5 21:42:26 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:42:26 -0400 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <413B8842.10107@sbcglobal.net> > Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes > Pass 2: Checking directory structure > Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity > Pass 4: Checking reference counts > Pass 5: Checking group summary information > Free blocks count wrong for group #5 (37125, counted=7751). > Fix? yes > > Free blocks count wrong (107846, counted=78472). > Fix? yes > > > /boot: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** > /boot: 71/26104 files (18.3% non-contiguous), 25916/104388 blocks > [root at fastcat /]# /sbin/e2fsck -f /dev/hdc1 > e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) > Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes > Pass 2: Checking directory structure > Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity > Pass 4: Checking reference counts > Pass 5: Checking group summary information > /boot: 71/26104 files (18.3% non-contiguous), 25916/104388 blocks > [root at fastcat /]# mount /dev/hdc1 /boot > [root at fastcat /]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hdc2 36G 25G 9.2G 73% / > /dev/hdc1 99M 23M 72M 24% /boot > ... This is similar to the output that I recieved. I was dropped to the recovery shell and ran just fsck on the filesystem. The only errors reported were from my volume labeled /1, which is the now reformatted filesystem. > VERY WORRYING!!!!!! Hopefully whatever caused the errors on the system is isolated and corrected within the development tree and installation discs/dvd. Jim > > - -Andy From tdiehl at rogueind.com Sun Sep 5 21:54:40 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 17:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > "Jeffrey C. Ollie" writes: > > >> But `ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw > >> used as baseurl in yum.conf fails: > > > > This is not a valid URL. As you can see from the following example: > > > > >>> import urlparse > > >>> urlparse.urlparse('ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw') > > ('ftp', 'reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~', '/no_bak/fedraw', '', '', '') > > > > Python is interpreting the '~' as part of the hostname, not as part of the path. Try using something like: > > > > ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/home/no_bak/fedraw > > > > Note that you should use the full path and not the '~' expansion. > > Ahh I see I've overlooked some stuff. > > Trying your formula a connection is made so I see now that the url > scheme is supported by yum. However I still get a failed to change > dir ftp error. > > In this scheme: > ftp://reader:xxxxx at reader.local.net0/home/reader/no_bak/fedraw > (password obfuscated for mailing) > `fedraw' is actually a symlink to /mnt/pack/fedraw (Which is also > chowned reader:reader) > > But I see from yum output that the address worked or at least the > address was seen correctly: > > yum list updates > Yum Version: 2.1.3 > COMMAND: yum list updates > Installroot: / > Reading Local RPMDB > Setting up Repo: development > Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxx7 at reader.local.net0/home/reader/no_bak/fedraw'] > repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development > [...] > > So I thought maybe it was because of the symlink > But.. > This scheme: > ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/mnt/pack/fedraw > > Gets the same ftp error. > > yum list updates > Yum Version: 2.1.3 > COMMAND: yum list updates > Installroot: / > Reading Local RPMDB > Setting up Repo: development > Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/mnt/pack/fedraw'] > repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development > failure: repodata/repomd.xml from development: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to tr > > I'm a little gun shy now calling this a yum problem. Do you see > further bumbling on my part? I will bet it is not a yum problem. The easiest way I have found to troubleshoot this type of problem is to use a web browser to connect to your repo. If that does not work neither will yum. OTOH if the web browser can browse the repodata directory then yum should work. It would appear you have some kind of permission problem. Tom From tdiehl at rogueind.com Sun Sep 5 21:56:58 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 17:56:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > "Jeffrey C. Ollie" writes: > > >> But `ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw > >> used as baseurl in yum.conf fails: > > > > This is not a valid URL. As you can see from the following example: > > > > >>> import urlparse > > >>> urlparse.urlparse('ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~/no_bak/fedraw') > > ('ftp', 'reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0:~', '/no_bak/fedraw', '', '', '') > > > > Python is interpreting the '~' as part of the hostname, not as part of the path. Try using something like: > > > > ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/home/no_bak/fedraw > > > > Note that you should use the full path and not the '~' expansion. > > Ahh I see I've overlooked some stuff. > > Trying your formula a connection is made so I see now that the url > scheme is supported by yum. However I still get a failed to change > dir ftp error. > > In this scheme: > ftp://reader:xxxxx at reader.local.net0/home/reader/no_bak/fedraw > (password obfuscated for mailing) > `fedraw' is actually a symlink to /mnt/pack/fedraw (Which is also > chowned reader:reader) > > But I see from yum output that the address worked or at least the > address was seen correctly: > > yum list updates > Yum Version: 2.1.3 > COMMAND: yum list updates > Installroot: / > Reading Local RPMDB > Setting up Repo: development > Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxx7 at reader.local.net0/home/reader/no_bak/fedraw'] > repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development > [...] > > So I thought maybe it was because of the symlink > But.. > This scheme: > ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/mnt/pack/fedraw > > Gets the same ftp error. > > yum list updates > Yum Version: 2.1.3 > COMMAND: yum list updates > Installroot: / > Reading Local RPMDB > Setting up Repo: development > Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/mnt/pack/fedraw'] > repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development > failure: repodata/repomd.xml from development: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to tr > > I'm a little gun shy now calling this a yum problem. Do you see > further bumbling on my part? To add another comment to this thread, it looks like you are using the devel version of yum. Did you run the createrepo thing?? Tom From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Sun Sep 5 21:59:02 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:59:02 -0400 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: <1094420036.5734.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> <1094420036.5734.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1094421543.27667.46.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 16:33 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > Gets the same ftp error. > > > > yum list updates > > Yum Version: 2.1.3 > > COMMAND: yum list updates > > Installroot: / > > Reading Local RPMDB > > Setting up Repo: development > > Baseurl(s) for repo: ['ftp://reader:xxxxxx at reader.local.net0/mnt/pack/fedraw'] > > repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. > > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development > > failure: repodata/repomd.xml from development: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to tr > > > > I'm a little gun shy now calling this a yum problem. Do you see > > further bumbling on my part? > > Actually, I got the same errors trying to connect to Dag's and > FreshRPM's sites, and they are http URL's. I think this is maybe the > newer 2.1 yum packages and those sites not compat with them yet or > something? Both Dag's and FreshRPM's support the new yum repository format. I've been using them successfully for a few days now. That error seems to say that yum can't find the new repo metadata, so either its a problem with the URL, or the repository doesnt support the new repository format...right?!? -- Ricardo Veguilla From michal at harddata.com Sun Sep 5 21:57:52 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 15:57:52 -0600 Subject: about bug #131761 (dev package not installing) In-Reply-To: <1094416920.27667.28.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net>; from veguilla@hpcf.upr.edu on Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 04:41:59PM -0400 References: <1094401988.27667.17.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> <1094416920.27667.28.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: <20040905155752.A5589@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 04:41:59PM -0400, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > > On the other hand, will it be safe to remove > the dev package currently installed in my system? I would not do it. If for any reasons you will try to boot without udev active you will find out that you are in trouble. Add to "ignored" packages in configs for yum and/or up2date if this is getting on your nerves (it is actually "exclude" for yum). Michal From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun Sep 5 22:08:08 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 18:08:08 -0400 Subject: Shared Libraries corrupt after rawhide update In-Reply-To: <1094401164.27667.8.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> References: <200409050757.44403.ernesto@ornl.gov> <1094401164.27667.8.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: <200409051808.08846.ernesto@ornl.gov> On Sunday 05 September 2004 12:19, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 07:57 -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > The above happens with 541 or 533 kernel. > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is there a way arounf this avoiding a fresh > > install? > > Well, someone else reported filesystem corruption (this also happened to > me, but my system apparently survived) with the kernel 541, so it might > be related. I filed bug #131822 in bugzilla > > -- > Ricardo Veguilla -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group (865) 591-0183 ORNL From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Sun Sep 5 22:03:38 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:03:38 -0400 Subject: about bug #131761 (dev package not installing) In-Reply-To: <20040905155752.A5589@mail.harddata.com> References: <1094401988.27667.17.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> <1094416920.27667.28.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> <20040905155752.A5589@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1094421818.27667.48.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 15:57 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 04:41:59PM -0400, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > > > > On the other hand, will it be safe to remove > > the dev package currently installed in my system? > > I would not do it. If for any reasons you will try to boot without > udev active you will find out that you are in trouble. > > Add to "ignored" packages in configs for yum and/or up2date if > this is getting on your nerves (it is actually "exclude" for yum). > > Michal > Ok, thanks for the info. -- Ricardo Veguilla From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 22:28:03 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:28:03 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: <1094421543.27667.46.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> (Ricardo Veguilla's message of "Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:59:02 -0400") References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> <1094420036.5734.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1094421543.27667.46.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: Ricardo Veguilla writes: >> Actually, I got the same errors trying to connect to Dag's and >> FreshRPM's sites, and they are http URL's. I think this is maybe the >> newer 2.1 yum packages and those sites not compat with them yet or >> something? You had and ftp `can't change directory' error? > Both Dag's and FreshRPM's support the new yum repository format. I've > been using them successfully for a few days now. > That error seems to say that yum can't find the new repo metadata, so > either its a problem with the URL, or the repository doesnt support the > new repository format...right?!? Well it says that but isn't it because of not being able to change directory to the repo directory? I think its not getting to the repo. Please not the error is: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory. Is this even yums error output? Or from ftp protocol? From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 22:41:53 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:41:53 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: (Tom Diehl's message of "Sun, 5 Sep 2004 17:54:40 -0400 (EDT)") References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> Message-ID: Tom Diehl writes: >> I'm a little gun shy now calling this a yum problem. Do you see >> further bumbling on my part? > > I will bet it is not a yum problem. The easiest way I have found to > troubleshoot this type of problem is to use a web browser to connect to your > repo. If that does not work neither will yum. OTOH if the web browser can > browse the repodata directory then yum should work. It would appear you have > some kind of permission problem. I'm inclined to agree and using your test with http: (http://reader:xxxxx at reader.local.net0/home/reader/no_bak/fedraw) I get a message saying `you are trying to access reader.local.net0 with uid reader, that does not require authentication. Is this the site you want? Answering yes gets a 404 If I put a symlink to fedraw in /var/www/html then: http://reader.local.net0/fedraw Works fine and hits my repo. So it appears this problem occurs only with authenticating type urls. And maybe even only when using ftp. The fact that: http://reader.local.net0/fedraw as a base url works, and yum does updates and installs etc from it should answer the other question you posted running special command to create repos. It is mirror of already created repo on carroll.cac From reader at newsguy.com Sun Sep 5 12:56:18 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 07:56:18 -0500 Subject: newest yum error output needs newlines Message-ID: My setup: *-- Software: Linux kernel 2.6.7-1.517 Architecture i686 Fedora Core release 2.90 (FC3 Test 1) help Hardware: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz cpu MHz : 1993.996 *-- Something in yums error output needs to be run thru and have newlines added at appropriate places not to mention giving some usefull info. This monster output from: yum --obsoletes update Finall error output is a pain: 1) Its difficult to parse 2) It doesn't really tell you anything ========== Finished Transaction Test Transaction Check Error: installing package vte-0.11.11-2 needs 520KB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package nautilus-cd-burner-2.7.6-1 needs 152KB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package gnome-panel-2.7.92.1-1 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package sendmail-cf-8.13.1-2 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libgnome-devel-2.7.92-1 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libbonobo-2.6.2-2 needs 6MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package mrtg-2.10.15-1 needs 8MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package cpp-3.4.1-10 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libacl-2.2.23-2 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package pyparted-1.6.8-1 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package Xaw3d-devel-1.5-23 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package automake-1.9.1-1 needs 7MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package gnome-applets-2.7.3-2 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package readline-devel-4.3-13 needs 17M! B on the /usr filesysteminstalling package alsa-utils-1.0.6-1 needs 17MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package GConf-devel-1.0.9-15 needs 17MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package nano-1.2.4-1 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package postfix-2.1.4-1 needs 19MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package pam_smb-1.1.7-5 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package rpm-libs-4.3.2-0.10 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libidn-0.5.4-2 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libsepol-1.1.1-2 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package hal-0.2.97.cvs20040901-1 needs 19MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.7.99.903-5 needs 19MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel-6.7.99.903-5 needs 19MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libsilc-0.9.12-7 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package hal-cups-utils-0.5.2-1 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminsta! lling package howl-libs-0.9.6-2 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminsta filesysteminstalling package httpd-suexec-2.0.50-5 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libtheora-1.0alpha3-4 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package udev-030-20 needs 21MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package howl-0.9.6-2 needs 21MB on the /usr filesystem From tdiehl at rogueind.com Sun Sep 5 23:35:54 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Tom Diehl writes: > > >> I'm a little gun shy now calling this a yum problem. Do you see > >> further bumbling on my part? > > > > I will bet it is not a yum problem. The easiest way I have found to > > troubleshoot this type of problem is to use a web browser to connect to your > > repo. If that does not work neither will yum. OTOH if the web browser can > > browse the repodata directory then yum should work. It would appear you have > > some kind of permission problem. > > I'm inclined to agree and using your test with http: > (http://reader:xxxxx at reader.local.net0/home/reader/no_bak/fedraw) > > I get a message saying `you are trying to access reader.local.net0 > with uid reader, that does not require authentication. Is this the > site you want? > > Answering yes gets a 404 > > If I put a symlink to fedraw in /var/www/html then: > http://reader.local.net0/fedraw > > Works fine and hits my repo. > > So it appears this problem occurs only with authenticating type urls. > And maybe even only when using ftp. Hummm, just a guess but try using ftp:// path. You get a 404 with http because it is not in the document root of the web server. The symlink fixes that. The web browser knows what to do with ftp:// type url's. BTW: yum will follow symlinks just fine also. I have numerous local repos symlinked together. > > The fact that: http://reader.local.net0/fedraw as a base url works, > and yum does updates and installs etc from it should answer the other > question you posted running special command to create repos. > > It is mirror of already created repo on carroll.cac OK. Sounds logical. Tom From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 5 21:59:52 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:59:52 -0400 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <20040905192545.GA3541@rednote.net> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040905192545.GA3541@rednote.net> Message-ID: <413B8C58.10807@sbcglobal.net> Janina Sajka wrote: > Andy Green writes: > >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>Hash: SHA1 >> >>On Sunday 05 September 2004 09:19, Colin Charles wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 14:42, Jim Cornette wrote: >>> >>>>Since I booted up using the latest kernel and ended up with a lot of >>>>file errors related to inodes, I'll be installing fresh. >>> >>>What errors are you noticing? Seems to be fine here, on my ppc box >> >>"Seems to be fine" on machines here... but... I noticed that df -h filesystem >>usage does NOT match du -h -x / for the root fs. Then I noticed that the >>boot partition df -h is completely broken... >> > > I can get a kernel oops from intense disk writes/reads. On the other > hand, heavy CPU usage seems fine. So, I think there's something funky > about disk i/o as well. > > If I thought earlier, before reformatting the disk, I would have saved the contents of /var/log/. This would have saved any boot.log and other logs. Since one of the errors was related to not being able to open a core device, it could be one of the special device files or something and interaction with the 541 kernel. I did not upgrade the mod-utils rpm or the libsoup rpm before the filesystem errors. I had the latest of the other rpms installed and did not revert to an earlier version of gawk. I read the earlier posts, but did not revert this program downward. Jim From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Sep 6 01:45:11 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:45:11 +0200 Subject: Disabling module loading In-Reply-To: <20040903071836.GA22802@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <41369893.8050404@swcp.com> <1094108720.2823.3.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1094171860.20649.116.camel@one.myworld> <20040903071836.GA22802@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094435096.1073.23.camel@one.myworld> Le ven 03/09/2004 ? 09:18, Arjan van de Ven a ?crit : > On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 02:37:40AM +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > the kernel was built. Would that be close enough to what you want ? > > > > Sure. > > How it works ? :-) > > Just add enforcemodulesig to the kernel commandline... I use it with a custom kernel and my signature. It works. Very interesting feature. But please, can you improve (create) the documentation ? :-) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From reader at newsguy.com Mon Sep 6 03:30:09 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 22:30:09 -0500 Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: (Tom Diehl's message of "Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:35:54 -0400 (EDT)") References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> Message-ID: Tom Diehl writes: >> If I put a symlink to fedraw in /var/www/html then: >> http://reader.local.net0/fedraw >> >> Works fine and hits my repo. >> >> So it appears this problem occurs only with authenticating type urls. >> And maybe even only when using ftp. > > Hummm, just a guess but try using ftp:// path. You get a 404 with http > because it is not in the document root of the web server. The symlink fixes > that. The web browser knows what to do with ftp:// type url's. BTW: yum will > follow symlinks just fine also. I have numerous local repos symlinked > together. Yup using ftp:// and the authenticating url blazes right thru using mozilla. I guess that means it is a bug in yum... yes? I have this same issue posed on the yum list, so maybe someone there will know about what the urlgrabber thingy in yum is supposed to do with a url like that. I think your test is sort of indicative though. Just an aside here. I new earlier today I had gotten to those directories with mozilla and an authenticating url, but when I went back to try it again I forgot it had been by using an ftp url as you suggest, so for a while here I was starting to get that `I know I'm not crazy' syndrome when I couldn't get it to work again. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Sep 6 02:17:14 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 22:17:14 -0400 Subject: Notes on Yum Changes Message-ID: <1094437034.4702.13.camel@binkley> Here are some notes I typed up this weekend on a plane and in a truly dull airport about yum changes in the upcoming test release. Here they are: Making yum repositories now: Yum repositories are no longer created by yum-arch. There is a new program, createrepo (http://linux.duke.edu/metadata/generate), that creates the metadata. The metadata for rpm packages is the information that describes the data stored in the payload of the rpm. createrepo takes the metadata from each rpm in the repository and stores it in an xml format that is simple and expedient to load the data from. This makes it easier and more efficient for yum to resolve dependencies and find out other important information about the packages a user would want to install. To create your own repository install the createrepo rpm and run: create-repo /path/to/the/packages It will recursively go through the directory you specify, find all the rpm packages, and retrieve the pertinent metadata. Once this command completes you should have a directory named 'repodata' created in the directory path you specified on the command line. The repodata directory will contain at least 4 files. They are: repomd.xml - stores the information about the other metadata files. It is a meta-metadata file. :) It has checksums and timestamps for each file of the metadata. primary.xml[.gz] - stores the critical information for listing and dependency solving packages. It is the core of information for the repository and it is normally the smallest of the files containing package metadata. filelists.xml[.gz] - stores the complete file listing for each package. It also contains some information describing the files. It distinguishes between files, directories and ghosted files in the package. other.xml[.gz] - stores any other information that is available from the package. This file is available for completeness and convenience. In particular, this file stores all the changelog information for each package. If you specified the -g option to createrepo and listed a groups file (a comps.xml format file) then this file will also be copied to the repodata directory. Yum Changes: 1. Yum will no longer work with repositories generated with yum-arch. The new format and the old format do not conlict with each other so if you want to run createrepo and yum-arch on a single repository that will work just fine. However, the new yum will not support old-style repositories and there are no plans at this time to make it possible. 2. When specifying packages on the command line and in the exclude lists you can use complete version and arch strings now. In addition to specifying: yum install mypackage you can now also specify: yum install mypackage-1.1 The following version/arch string formats are accepted: name name-ver name-ver-rel name.arch name-ver-rel.arch epoch:name-ver-rel.arch 3. The config file has been enhanced in a number of ways. Inside the config file you can now specify include=url://some/location/file at any point. This allows you to include one config file inside another. The file is included literally, as though typed in place. The include option takes any url that yum is capable of handling (http, https, ftp and file). 4. In addition to the above config change, yum also offers an optional /etc/yum.repos.d directory for configurations. Each file named with a .repo extension will be parsed and added to the set of repositories listed in the yum.conf file. The format of these files is identical to the listing of a repository in the yum.conf file: [repository-id] name=repository name baseurl=url://path/to/repository ... 5. New command line options: --obsoletes - tell yum to include obsoletes in its update processing --enablerepo=repository-id - tell yum to enable the repository of that id this option can be specified multiple times on the command line. This will override the 'enabled' option to a repository in the configuration file. --disablerepo=repository-id - The logical opposite of the above. Other new features will be added and they'll be described in more detail then. This should give users an overview of the major changed items in yum, so far. hope this helps people. -sv From tdiehl at rogueind.com Mon Sep 6 03:54:17 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: make yum.conf do a user ftp login for baseurl In-Reply-To: References: <1094408905.16665.40.camel@pc05987.campus.dmacc.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Tom Diehl writes: > > >> If I put a symlink to fedraw in /var/www/html then: > >> http://reader.local.net0/fedraw > >> > >> Works fine and hits my repo. > >> > >> So it appears this problem occurs only with authenticating type urls. > >> And maybe even only when using ftp. > > > > Hummm, just a guess but try using ftp:// path. You get a 404 with http > > because it is not in the document root of the web server. The symlink fixes > > that. The web browser knows what to do with ftp:// type url's. BTW: yum will > > follow symlinks just fine also. I have numerous local repos symlinked > > together. > > Yup using ftp:// and the authenticating url blazes right thru using > mozilla. I guess that means it is a bug in yum... yes? Anytime I have cut and pasted the url out of the yum.conf file and mozilla could find the repo yum could too. So it sure sounds like like a yum bug to me, but I am not a python programmer. :-) > I have this same issue posed on the yum list, so maybe someone there > will know about what the urlgrabber thingy in yum is supposed to do > with a url like that. I think your test is sort of indicative though. Yes, I saw the post. Seth and or one of the other yum developers will most likely comment on this when they get a chance. I have not tried the new version of yum yet. I am kind of waiting for the dust to settle. > Just an aside here. I new earlier today I had gotten to those > directories with mozilla and an authenticating url, but when I went > back to try it again I forgot it had been by using an ftp url as > you suggest, so for a while here I was starting to get that `I know > I'm not crazy' syndrome when I couldn't get it to work again. :-)) Tom From lsomike at futzin.com Mon Sep 6 06:23:39 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 01:23:39 -0500 Subject: Anyone having trouble printing with gimp using the test release or development tree? In-Reply-To: <604aa791040905133041748ed2@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa791040905133041748ed2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200409060123.40110.lsomike@futzin.com> On Sunday 05 September 2004 15:30, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > So im getting around to actually use the gimp for something on > the development box. > And I can't seem to print from the gimp. > I see the printjob in the lpq output as active, but the printer > itself remains idle, and then the printjob appears to be cleanly > removed from the printque. > > Now if I print to a ps file from the gimp, and then print that ps > file from ggv printing works as expected. > > Anyone else seeing this behavior in the gimp with a box synced > against the development tree? > Anyone seeing any non-printing behavior from other applications? > > -jef I can only report good results. I'm using a current devel box (except I still use kernel *.535) which currently has gimp-2.0.4-4 to print to a smb networked Epson PhotoStylus R200 printer. I did remove the "-oraw" from gimp's "lp" command. The one odd thing that I do see is that the /var/log/cups/access_log has two new entries every five seconds: localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:39 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:39 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:44 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:44 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:49 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:49 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:54 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:54 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:59 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 localhost - - [06/Sep/2004:01:10:59 -0500] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 75 and I don't know what that's all about. Regards, Mike Klinke From ra at ra.is Mon Sep 6 07:40:05 2004 From: ra at ra.is (Richard Allen) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 07:40:05 +0000 Subject: Quake3 and FC3T1 In-Reply-To: <413A9D4A.9010706@comcast.net> References: <413A9D4A.9010706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040906074005.GA22328@ra.is> On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 12:59:54AM -0400, Jim Martin wrote: > In both FC3T1 and Fc2, using Kernel 2.6.8.x I can not longer run Quake3, > on the FC2 if I change to 2.6.7.x kernel I can run it with no problems. > any ideas? Below is a list of the out I get when trying to run it. I had the same problem. echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout Fixed it (and various other problems) for me. -- Rikki. -- RHCE, RHCX, HP-UX Certified Administrator. -- Solaris 7 Certified Systems and Network Administrator. Bell Labs Unix -- Reach out and grep someone. Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. From arjanv at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 07:45:09 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 09:45:09 +0200 Subject: Quake3 and FC3T1 In-Reply-To: <20040906074005.GA22328@ra.is> References: <413A9D4A.9010706@comcast.net> <20040906074005.GA22328@ra.is> Message-ID: <1094456708.2799.5.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 09:40, Richard Allen wrote: > On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 12:59:54AM -0400, Jim Martin wrote: > > In both FC3T1 and Fc2, using Kernel 2.6.8.x I can not longer run Quake3, > > on the FC2 if I change to 2.6.7.x kernel I can run it with no problems. > > any ideas? Below is a list of the out I get when trying to run it. > > I had the same problem. > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout > > Fixed it (and various other problems) for me. can you please be more specific about what it fixes? this ought to work always realistically, so if stuff breaks we need to know. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From pp at ee.oulu.fi Mon Sep 6 07:56:06 2004 From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:56:06 +0300 Subject: Quake3 and FC3T1 In-Reply-To: <1094456708.2799.5.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <413A9D4A.9010706@comcast.net> <20040906074005.GA22328@ra.is> <1094456708.2799.5.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <20040906075606.GA9308@ee.oulu.fi> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 09:45:09AM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout > > > > Fixed it (and various other problems) for me. > > can you please be more specific about what it fixes? > this ought to work always realistically, so if stuff breaks we need to > know. I've noticed that software that does wineish stuff breaks without setarch -L (or legacy_va_layout). This includes mplayer using win32 dll codecs. It's entirely possible quake3 does some funny things to allow the same libraries to be used with Linux and Win32... -- Pekka Pietikainen From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 6 07:51:33 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:51:33 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate Message-ID: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> I finally installed the test candidate and found X not working, avc errors, general features that I consider bothersome. With this messages, I wanted to relay attached avc errors, xorg-x11 errors etc. I won't but will files a bug report with the files soon. As a general problem. I could not install using the GUI mode. My screen would change to graphics mode, then hang. After installation, X has the problem with the refreshing of the screen w/ the selected version of xorg-x11. This is as described by another person using the 815 driver. The screen has stripes from left to right, then some portions appear on the screen. You have to hover a mouse over menu items in order to launch anything. Also not all screen elements appear on applications that you launch. Also, using my binary driver approach and replacing the i810 driver w/ a previous version driver, this one from my fc2 installation, a reboot is needed for the older driver to work as it should. Aggravations are the "add to panel" and large icons being displayed instead of a menu choice to navigate through the stock menu choices. Having to scroll down a list with big ICONs is not my preference. After adding a main menu choice to the new panel, things were normal. Also the nautilus needing to be configured for browsing vs. nt4 style folders and icons. I am attaching the avc errors from first booting the computer from the install. The errors are minor. Hopefully the X problem can be resolved from past the testing. The other problems are a matter of user tastes. Beware of the idedisk, usbdisk and other icons on your desktop. They are handy, but are new. I find the icons for the mounting disk partitions handy and useful. I like the concept. But with multiple disk types, there could be many. The type of install was workstation, no added programs and SELinux enabled w/ targeted type. I burned ISOs for the CDROMs and the first and forth disk errored at around 99 %. The burn was at maximum speed for my burner type. Instead of reburning the CDROMs, I just did a hard drive installation from my ext3 dowloaded files directory. The actual installation went through in less than a half hour w/ just over 3 gigs needed for the actual installation. I hope this is helpful, Jim PS - When trying to send messages, Evolution did not remember my choice of outgoing authentication. This should have been remembered from the wizard answers given during first launch. -------------- next part -------------- Sep 6 02:31:04 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437769.230:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl scontext=user_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fs_t tclass=filesystem Sep 6 02:31:04 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437769.882:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl scontext=user_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fs_t tclass=filesystem Sep 6 02:31:04 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437772.461:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl scontext=user_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fs_t tclass=filesystem Sep 6 02:31:05 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437772.517:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd name=console dev=tmpfs ino=894 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file Sep 6 02:31:05 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437772.517:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=895 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file Sep 6 02:31:05 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437772.517:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=895 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file Sep 6 02:31:05 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437772.517:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=895 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file Sep 6 02:31:05 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437772.518:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd dev=tmpfs ino=893 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir Sep 6 02:31:05 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437772.518:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd dev=tmpfs ino=893 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir Sep 6 02:31:05 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094437772.518:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd dev=tmpfs ino=893 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir From fedora at warmcat.com Sun Sep 5 19:33:21 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:33:21 +0100 Subject: last 543 kenel -> filesystem errors In-Reply-To: <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <200409052033.25940.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 05 September 2004 10:23, Andy Green wrote: > [root at fastcat /]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hdc2 36G 25G 9.2G 74% / > /dev/hdc1 99M -16Z 101M 101% /boot Okay... bad news. I fixed /boot as shown in the parent and went out for the day. Now I look again and... [root at fastcat ~]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc2 36G 13G 22G 38% / ... /dev/hdc1 99M -16Z 105M 101% /boot [root at fastcat ~]# uname -r 2.6.8-1.538 [root at fastcat ~]# umount /boot [root at fastcat ~]# /sbin/e2fsck -f /dev/hdc1 e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity Pass 4: Checking reference counts Pass 5: Checking group summary information Free blocks count wrong for group #5 (41005, counted=7751). Fix? yes Free blocks count wrong (111726, counted=78472). Fix? yes /boot: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /boot: 71/26104 files (18.3% non-contiguous), 25916/104388 blocks [root at fastcat ~]# mount /dev/hdc1 /boot [root at fastcat ~]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc2 36G 13G 22G 38% / none 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm none 506M 0 506M 0% /var/lib/jack/tmp //192.168.0.30/mediarw 187G 167G 21G 90% /backupmedia /dev/hdc1 99M 23M 72M 24% /boot It's deja vu all over again then.... 543 ext3 is pooping on the fs somehow... and /boot is not something that gets written a lot (I edited /boot/grub/grub.config with vi is all). - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBO2oFjKeDCxMJCTIRArE8AJkBadyEt14tpe6dB5BR3hlC/vjR5QCfQiKu QNI3+UDuEnrHo0796LprhIY= =RNMS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Sep 6 10:59:33 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:59:33 +0100 Subject: Yum depressed by changes Message-ID: <200409061159.36992.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yum has become unhappy here... pulls down a couple of packages and then... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 135, in ? main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 90, in main (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 97, in buildTransaction (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 125, in resolveDeps self.populateTs(test=1) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 89, in populateTs hdr = po.getHeader() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 263, in getHeader hdr = hlist[0] IndexError: list index out of range I moved /var/cache/yum out of the way and started over, but after a dozen or so packages it fell over just the same. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBPEMYjKeDCxMJCTIRAiOFAJ9YvGL9kRiMcULk8D1msu5WgQ/p3QCePpyn Gc5r69R5tDxTRCIt7fwtzI8= =IpBJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jorton at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 11:01:07 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:01:07 +0100 Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040906110107.GA3128@redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 05:58:55PM -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just started uploading the latest "release candidate" for FC3test2. > This is __________________NOT__________________ the final FC3test2 tree. > If you're interested in helping with testing for the FC3test2 milestone, > wait until it finishes uploading (there's 39G still to go, but hopefully > it will be done by tomorrow). With a kickstart install I don't get IPv4 configured on boot up, it looks like dhclient was being run but doing nothing. Anyone else see anything like that? I can use the system over IPv6 for only a short while after boot before the kernel dies from #131706. joe From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Sep 6 11:58:00 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:58:00 +0100 Subject: Yum depressed by changes In-Reply-To: <200409061159.36992.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <200409061159.36992.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <200409061258.05309.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 06 September 2004 11:59, Andy Green wrote: > Yum has become unhappy here... pulls down a couple of packages and then... [root at fastcat ~]# yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 developmen: ################################################## 3513/3513 Excluding Packages Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree Resolving Dependencies xinitrc-4.0.4-1.noarch.rp 100% |=========================| 16 kB 00:00 xorg-x11-sdk-6.7.99.903-5 100% |=========================| 339 kB 00:02 httpd-2.0.50-5.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 57 kB 00:00 vim-common-6.3.020-1.i386 100% |=========================| 113 kB 00:00 yum-2.1.3-1.noarch.rpm 100% |=========================| 11 kB 00:00 libf2c-3.4.1-10.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 15 kB 00:00 kudzu-1.1.85-1.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 41 kB 00:00 gnome-vfs2-smb-2.7.92-3.i 100% |=========================| 13 kB 00:00 xorg-x11-deprecated-libs- 100% |=========================| 222 kB 00:01 shared-mime-info-0.15-2.i 100% |=========================| 4.0 kB 00:00 xorg-x11-xauth-6.7.99.903 100% |=========================| 222 kB 00:01 system-config-date-1.7.5- 100% |=========================| 25 kB 00:00 openssh-askpass-3.9p1-3.i 100% |=========================| 24 kB 00:00 initscripts-7.77-1.i386.r 100% |=========================| 82 kB 00:00 kdevelop-3.1.0-2.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 287 kB 00:02 gcc-java-3.4.1-10.i386.rp 100% |=========================| 18 kB 00:00 gcc-g77-3.4.1-10.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 17 kB 00:00 libgcj-3.4.1-10.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 21 kB 00:00 up2date-4.3.29-6.0.i386.r 100% |=========================| 1.3 MB 00:08 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 135, in ? main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 90, in main (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 97, in buildTransaction (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 125, in resolveDeps self.populateTs(test=1) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 89, in populateTs hdr = po.getHeader() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 263, in getHeader hdr = hlist[0] IndexError: list index out of range [root at fastcat ~]# yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 developmen: ################################################## 3513/3513 Excluding Packages Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree Resolving Dependencies up2date-4.3.29-6.0.i386.r 100% |=========================| 65 kB 00:00 openssh-clients-3.9p1-3.i 100% |=========================| 26 kB 00:00 libstdc++-devel-3.4.1-10. 100% |=========================| 48 kB 00:00 system-config-printer-gui 100% |=========================| 42 kB 00:00 vim-minimal-6.3.020-1.i38 100% |=========================| 249 kB 00:01 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 135, in ? main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 90, in main (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 97, in buildTransaction (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 125, in resolveDeps self.populateTs(test=1) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 89, in populateTs hdr = po.getHeader() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 263, in getHeader hdr = hlist[0] IndexError: list index out of range Hum, something funny going on with header download.... the last package on the first run... up2date-4.3.29-6.0.i386.r 100% |=========================| 1.3 MB 00:08 The first package on the second run.... up2date-4.3.29-6.0.i386.r 100% |=========================| 65 kB 00:00 Here is my /etc/yum.conf [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=fedora-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/$basearch/ - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBPFDNjKeDCxMJCTIRAnBCAJkBpgHoQYRsf4ALbsXiECWO23P8pgCeJcTX 6QH5oS5gTRmCVLdy6jSlVZs= =+vas -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Sep 6 12:38:44 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 07:38:44 -0500 Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: References: <4139C236.5090709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <413C5A54.6080300@earthlink.net> Elliot Lee wrote: >On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Gerry Tool wrote: > > > >>I just tried to get to the DVD and see it isn't there yet. There are CD >>images for disc1 through disc8 rather than the usual 4 binary discs and >>source disks. How many and which ones are required for an install? >> >> > >discs 1-4 are binary, discs 5-8 are source. > >-- Elliot >The daring is in the doing > >http://people.redhat.com/sopwith/ > > > > I would like to help test the DVD version, but there is still no .iso in http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0903.0/isos/i386/DVD/ Gerry From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Sep 6 14:03:03 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:03:03 -0400 Subject: yumming up down to for loop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094479383.4702.17.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 09:13 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > I'm having so much trouble getting updated with yum that I've now > resorted to marching lists of updates produced by yum thru a for loop > where I can cancel errors and go on to next. > > A big slowdown is rereading the repmod.xml data (or what ever) that is > read at the start of each update. > > I'm using a for loop with: > yum -y update $pkg > and slowly getting quite a few updated. Since the repo is on my > internal lan its not costing too much bandwidth but still, someway to > save that reparse on each loop would really speed it up. What problem is it that makes you put them all in a loop? You shouldn't need to do that. yum update should be working just fine in 2.1.3. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Sep 6 14:09:03 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:09:03 -0400 Subject: Yum depressed by changes In-Reply-To: <200409061159.36992.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <200409061159.36992.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1094479743.4702.21.camel@binkley> On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 11:59 +0100, Andy Green wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yum has become unhappy here... pulls down a couple of packages and then... > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 135, in ? > main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 90, in main > (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 97, in > buildTransaction > (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 125, in > resolveDeps > self.populateTs(test=1) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 89, in > populateTs > hdr = po.getHeader() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 263, in > getHeader > hdr = hlist[0] > IndexError: list index out of range > > > I moved /var/cache/yum out of the way and started over, but after a dozen or > so packages it fell over just the same. > > - -Andy Filing this in bugzilla would be appreciated. and running with yum -d 4, would help as well. -sv From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Sep 6 14:24:02 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 15:24:02 +0100 Subject: Yum depressed by changes In-Reply-To: <1094479743.4702.21.camel@binkley> References: <200409061159.36992.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094479743.4702.21.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <200409061524.09368.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 06 September 2004 15:09, seth vidal wrote: > > I moved /var/cache/yum out of the way and started over, but after a dozen > > or so packages it fell over just the same. > Filing this in bugzilla would be appreciated. and running with yum -d 4, > would help as well. Sorry Seth, I moved on and that problem is gone. What I did was move to the redhat repo, it tried to download a new primary.xml.gz but the download aborted partway the first time.... (note it wrongly jumped to 100%)... primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 144 kB 02:01 developmen: ###### 422/3513//var/cache/yum/development/primary.xml.gz:25847: parser error : AttValue: ' expected References: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> <1094372337.7455.85.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051710.10014.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> <20040905090839.A4472@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1094479824.4702.25.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 09:08 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 05:10:09PM +0300, Kimmo Koivisto wrote: > > On Sunday 05 September 2004 11:18, Colin Charles wrote: > > > You now run "createrepo " rather than "yum-arch " > > > > Is there any way to generate such repository with createrepo, that older yum > > versions (that require headers directory with separate header files) would > > work? > > I did not play with that yet (I was away for about a week, I am > catching up with the program and it shows :-) but it looks to me > that both types of an information do not collide. So you would > need to run both createrepo and yum-arch on the same directory > and that would make it available to both types of clients. > > Maybe createrepo has an option to generate "old style" headers too? > It would be really nice if it did. no createrepo cannot create yum-headers, and I have no plans to add that to it. I don't enjoy adding legacy cruft to newer programs. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Sep 6 14:09:32 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:09:32 -0400 Subject: newest yum error output needs newlines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094479772.4702.23.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 07:56 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > My setup: > *-- > Software: > Linux kernel 2.6.7-1.517 Architecture i686 > Fedora Core release 2.90 (FC3 Test 1) > help > Hardware: > model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz > cpu MHz : 1993.996 > *-- > > Something in yums error output needs to be run thru and have newlines > added at appropriate places not to mention giving some usefull info. > This monster output from: > > yum --obsoletes update > Finall error output is a pain: > 1) Its difficult to parse > 2) It doesn't really tell you anything > ========== > Finished Transaction Test > Transaction Check Error: installing package vte-0.11.11-2 needs 520KB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package nautilus-cd-burner-2.7.6-1 needs 152KB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package gnome-panel-2.7.92.1-1 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package sendmail-cf-8.13.1-2 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libgnome-devel-2.7.92-1 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libbonobo-2.6.2-2 needs 6MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package mrtg-2.10.15-1 needs 8MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package cpp-3.4.1-10 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libacl-2.2.23-2 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package pyparted-1.6.8-1 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package Xaw3d-devel-1.5-23 needs 5MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package automake-1.9.1-1 needs 7MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package gnome-applets-2.7.3-2 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package readline-devel-4.3-13 needs 17 M! > B on the /usr filesysteminstalling package alsa-utils-1.0.6-1 needs 17MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package GConf-devel-1.0.9-15 needs 17MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package nano-1.2.4-1 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package postfix-2.1.4-1 needs 19MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package pam_smb-1.1.7-5 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package rpm-libs-4.3.2-0.10 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libidn-0.5.4-2 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libsepol-1.1.1-2 needs 18MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package hal-0.2.97.cvs20040901-1 needs 19MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.7.99.903-5 needs 19MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel-6.7.99.903-5 needs 19MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libsilc-0.9.12-7 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package hal-cups-utils-0.5.2-1 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminst a! > lling package howl-libs-0.9.6-2 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminsta > filesysteminstalling package httpd-suexec-2.0.50-5 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package libtheora-1.0alpha3-4 needs 20MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package udev-030-20 needs 21MB on the /usr filesysteminstalling package howl-0.9.6-2 needs 21MB on the /usr filesystem this is already in bugzilla and will be addressed shortly. -sv From ksnider at flarn.com Mon Sep 6 14:32:28 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:32:28 -0400 Subject: Quake3 and FC3T1 In-Reply-To: <1094456708.2799.5.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <413A9D4A.9010706@comcast.net> <20040906074005.GA22328@ra.is> <1094456708.2799.5.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <413C74FC.2000107@flarn.com> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > can you please be more specific about what it fixes? > this ought to work always realistically, so if stuff breaks we need to > know. Sure. Neither Cedega (Transgaming's WineX) nor Crossover (Codeweavers) will run without legacy_va_layout set to 1. They will fail with an "Error=21" from the wineserver. -- Ken Snider From arjanv at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 14:35:38 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:35:38 +0200 Subject: Quake3 and FC3T1 In-Reply-To: <413C74FC.2000107@flarn.com> References: <413A9D4A.9010706@comcast.net> <20040906074005.GA22328@ra.is> <1094456708.2799.5.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <413C74FC.2000107@flarn.com> Message-ID: <20040906143538.GA2736@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 10:32:28AM -0400, Ken Snider wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > >can you please be more specific about what it fixes? > >this ought to work always realistically, so if stuff breaks we need to > >know. > > Sure. Neither Cedega (Transgaming's WineX) nor Crossover (Codeweavers) will > run without legacy_va_layout set to 1. They will fail with an "Error=21" > from the wineserver. ok both are wine based; the 548 kernel I'm building right now should have a workaround for wine in this case (but wine is kinda making an invalid assumption; it's just not clear how it SHOULD do the right thing and communicate it's requirement... but that's a different story). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am sure if I am wrong here someone will correct me :) From balay at fastmail.fm Mon Sep 6 15:10:56 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:10:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: how to make a local repository after a yum update? In-Reply-To: <1094479824.4702.25.camel@binkley> References: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> <1094372337.7455.85.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051710.10014.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> <20040905090839.A4472@mail.harddata.com> <1094479824.4702.25.camel@binkley> Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, seth vidal wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 09:08 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > Maybe createrepo has an option to generate "old style" headers too? > > It would be really nice if it did. > > no createrepo cannot create yum-headers, and I have no plans to add that > to it. I don't enjoy adding legacy cruft to newer programs. How about making this a packaging issue? Being able to install yum & yum20 simultaneously (just like gcc & gcc32) Satish From sct at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 15:51:33 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 06 Sep 2004 16:51:33 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094485892.2687.9.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 05:42, Jim Cornette wrote: > Since I booted up using the latest kernel and ended up with a lot of > file errors related to inodes, I'll be installing fresh. Had you previously used the -538 kernel on the same box? There was a bug in that which could well have explained inode errors; if you didn't fsck between using 538 and 541, then it's not necessarily 541's fault. Thanks, Stephen From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Sep 6 15:52:54 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:52:54 +0100 Subject: Yum depressed by changes In-Reply-To: <1094481607.24131.32.camel@CC256006-A> References: <200409061159.36992.fedora@warmcat.com> <200409061524.09368.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094481607.24131.32.camel@CC256006-A> Message-ID: <200409061652.57842.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 06 September 2004 15:40, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > I think you should yum install fonts-xorg-base That's a great tip, Sander, thanks. That installed fine. Then I did yum update which put the previously excluded xorg-x11-font-utils in, and then finally rpm -e xorg-x11-base-fonts I logged out of X, killed it with Ctrl-Alt-Bksp for good measure, and just logged in again with fonts working fine. Yum is now the new version and everything is up to date using my regular kernel.org repo. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBPIfZjKeDCxMJCTIRAgLkAJkBNgGph0424tigBVgU79XqHrdR/gCgi++1 CmC1Y2nH+x1idPvQffnkaew= =T2tz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jreiser at BitWagon.com Mon Sep 6 16:01:00 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 09:01:00 -0700 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk Message-ID: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> While test installing FC3-re0903.0-i386, I noticed that openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.2-3.i386.rpm is 125MB on CD-ROM or 790MB on disk, which is about 1/4 of the total 3007MB disk space required for a Workstation install. Thus it is the leading option to delete in order to conserve space using a custom install. Supposedly US English still works without this package. (And it would be nice if there were an option to select just a few of the dozens of languages included in i18n.) -- John Reiser, jreiser at BitWagon.com From sct at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 16:04:42 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 06 Sep 2004 17:04:42 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <20040905192545.GA3541@rednote.net> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040905192545.GA3541@rednote.net> Message-ID: <1094486681.2687.11.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 20:25, Janina Sajka wrote: > I can get a kernel oops from intense disk writes/reads. On the other > hand, heavy CPU usage seems fine. So, I think there's something funky > about disk i/o as well. Do you have a record of the oops, by any chance? Thanks, Stephen From sct at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 16:11:27 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 06 Sep 2004 17:11:27 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 20:36, Mike Klinke wrote: > I don't know if you've seen it or not but another thread: > "Strang df -h output" carries comments about the odd /boot sizes. I > know I saw this prior to the 541 kernel release as I noted in that > thread. I had seen that on older kernels too --- it doesn't seem to be related to the recent data-corrupting problems. And when "df" shows bad data, I'm still seeing the kernel return valid data from strace: statfs("/boot", {f_type="EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=1024, f_blocks=248895, f_bfree=389288, f_bavail=376438, f_files=64256, f_ffree=64210, f_fsid={0, 0}, f_namelen=255, f_frsize=1024}) = 0 write(1, "/dev/sda1 248895 -"..., 74) = 74 /dev/sda1 248895 -18446744073709411223 376438 101% /boot At the moment they look like separate problems. --Stephen From bavinic at comcast.net Mon Sep 6 16:23:19 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:23:19 -0400 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <20040906160022.22FB37451A@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040906160022.22FB37451A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <413C8EF7.7000006@comcast.net> ----------------------------- >Message: 11 >Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:32:28 -0400 >From: Ken Snider >Subject: Re: Quake3 and FC3T1 >To: arjanv at redhat.com, For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <413C74FC.2000107 at flarn.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > >>can you please be more specific about what it fixes? >>this ought to work always realistically, so if stuff breaks we need to >>know. >> >> > >Sure. Neither Cedega (Transgaming's WineX) nor Crossover (Codeweavers) will >run without legacy_va_layout set to 1. They will fail with an "Error=21" >from the wineserver. > > > Quake3 is not installed with Wine, or Winex, it is a native Linux installer from Loki I believe, however the instructions I was given did in deed work, Quake3 now runs with no problems, and for that i say thanks! BaVinic From twaugh at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 16:30:26 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:30:26 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040906163026.GI32028@redhat.com> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 05:11:27PM +0100, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > statfs("/boot", {f_type="EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=1024, f_blocks=248895, f_bfree=389288, f_bavail=376438, f_files=64256, f_ffree=64210, f_fsid={0, 0}, f_namelen=255, f_frsize=1024}) = 0 > write(1, "/dev/sda1 248895 -"..., 74) = 74 > /dev/sda1 248895 -18446744073709411223 376438 101% /boot f_blocks is 248895, i.e. total number of blocks. f_bfree is 389288, i.e. more free blocks than there are block. Doesn't seem like a kernel/fs problem to you? Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Sep 6 16:31:41 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:31:41 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409061731.48029.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 06 September 2004 17:11, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > I had seen that on older kernels too --- it doesn't seem to be related > to the recent data-corrupting problems. And when "df" shows bad data, > I'm still seeing the kernel return valid data from strace: > > statfs("/boot", {f_type="EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=1024, f_blocks=248895, > f_bfree=389288, f_bavail=376438, f_files=64256, f_ffree=64210, f_fsid={0, > 0}, f_namelen=255, f_frsize=1024}) = 0 write(1, "/dev/sda1 > 248895 -"..., 74) = 74 > /dev/sda1 248895 -18446744073709411223 376438 101% /boot > > At the moment they look like separate problems. Hum, an fsck makes the df -h problem go away. It's hard to see how if the data returned from the kernel is really correct in both cases? BTW what kind of unhappiness can we expect from this "inode problem"? Just things that e2fsck will make go away? - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBPJDzjKeDCxMJCTIRAt0hAJ9WQ1myVFsdII9WDhWlH7xJodQ/UwCeInBp mmYTFCdwG2IY+hgI2wJO2fs= =dFCy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lsomike at futzin.com Mon Sep 6 16:44:31 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:44:31 -0500 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <20040906163026.GI32028@redhat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <20040906163026.GI32028@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409061144.31351.lsomike@futzin.com> On Monday 06 September 2004 11:30, TW wrote: > On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 05:11:27PM +0100, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > > statfs("/boot", {f_type="EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=1024, > > f_blocks=248895, f_bfree=389288, f_bavail=376438, > > f_files=64256, f_ffree=64210, f_fsid={0, 0}, f_namelen=255, > > f_frsize=1024}) = 0 write(1, "/dev/sda1 248895 > > -"..., 74) = 74 /dev/sda1 248895 -18446744073709411223 > > 376438 101% /boot > > f_blocks is 248895, i.e. total number of blocks. > f_bfree is 389288, i.e. more free blocks than there are block. > > Doesn't seem like a kernel/fs problem to you? > > Tim. > */ It did to me too. There's a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131782 that was filed a couple of days ago. I suspect that additional evidence of corruption, especially prior to kernel 541, of this type would be helpful. Regards, Mike Klinke From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Sep 6 17:12:55 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 13:12:55 -0400 Subject: how to make a local repository after a yum update? In-Reply-To: References: <20040904184649.A18746@mail.harddata.com> <1094372337.7455.85.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051710.10014.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> <20040905090839.A4472@mail.harddata.com> <1094479824.4702.25.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1094490775.4702.27.camel@binkley> On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 10:10 -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, seth vidal wrote: > > > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 09:08 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > > Maybe createrepo has an option to generate "old style" headers too? > > > It would be really nice if it did. > > > > no createrepo cannot create yum-headers, and I have no plans to add that > > to it. I don't enjoy adding legacy cruft to newer programs. > > How about making this a packaging issue? Being able to install yum & > yum20 simultaneously (just like gcc & gcc32) > already being addressed. -sv From reader at newsguy.com Mon Sep 6 17:31:42 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:31:42 -0500 Subject: yumming up down to for loop In-Reply-To: <1094479383.4702.17.camel@binkley> (seth vidal's message of "Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:03:03 -0400") References: <1094479383.4702.17.camel@binkley> Message-ID: seth vidal writes: >> I'm using a for loop with: >> yum -y update $pkg >> and slowly getting quite a few updated. Since the repo is on my >> internal lan its not costing too much bandwidth but still, someway to >> save that reparse on each loop would really speed it up. > > What problem is it that makes you put them all in a loop? Delt with below, but do you have an idea as to the subject of my post. Or just redirect to some other subject? > You shouldn't need to do that. > > yum update should be working just fine in 2.1.3. I used a number of exclusions and other tricks to do an update. All failed with various problems involving xorg-x11 stuff (fonts) And ended with errors. One of which I posted under message-id: Message-ID: There were numerous others of that nature and then a series of `can't solve dependancy' endings involving xorg stuff. The for loop is a hack yes. Should not be necessary yes... But I got updated that way when other (more normal) attempts failed. I bailed myself out that way in the past too. Using yum and up2date. Seems like cutting down the scale helps either app do its job. This morning a straight update worked just fine. I had only one package to update: xorg-x11-font-utils Somehow it involved 18 packages to update it since it involved a number of obsoletes etc. `yum --obsoletes xorg-x11-font-utils' worked as expected Prior to updating 99% of what needed it with my for loop `yum --obsoletes update' would fail. Even with various excludes I've lost track of now. From sct at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 18:26:44 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 06 Sep 2004 19:26:44 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <20040906163026.GI32028@redhat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <20040906163026.GI32028@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094495204.2687.22.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 17:30, Tim Waugh wrote: > > statfs("/boot", {f_type="EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=1024, f_blocks=248895, f_bfree=389288, f_bavail=376438, f_files=64256, f_ffree=64210, f_fsid={0, 0}, f_namelen=255, f_frsize=1024}) = 0 > > write(1, "/dev/sda1 248895 -"..., 74) = 74 > > /dev/sda1 248895 -18446744073709411223 376438 101% /boot > > f_blocks is 248895, i.e. total number of blocks. > f_bfree is 389288, i.e. more free blocks than there are block. > > Doesn't seem like a kernel/fs problem to you? Yep, and it's consistent with the breakage I introduced in .538. I checked on the box that was showing this and indeed a fsck fixed the issue; you just beat me to posting about it! Can anyone reproduce this on a filesystem that hasn't seen the .538 kernel since its previous fsck? --Stephen From alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it Mon Sep 6 18:03:38 2004 From: alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it (Alessandro Torrisi) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:03:38 +0200 Subject: Quake3 and FC3T1 In-Reply-To: <20040906160023.44C2374520@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040906160023.44C2374520@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409062003.39020.alessandro.torrisi@eurone.it> Excuse me, but why don't you use Quake 3 Arena...native version for Linux ??? It's fastest than on Windows !!! Try it !!! Alex. From sct at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 18:42:02 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 06 Sep 2004 19:42:02 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <200409061731.48029.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <200409061731.48029.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1094496122.2687.29.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 17:31, Andy Green wrote: > > statfs("/boot", {f_type="EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=1024, f_blocks=248895, > > f_bfree=389288, f_bavail=376438, f_files=64256, f_ffree=64210, f_fsid={0, > > 0}, f_namelen=255, f_frsize=1024}) = 0 write(1, "/dev/sda1 > > 248895 -"..., 74) = 74 > > /dev/sda1 248895 -18446744073709411223 376438 101% /boot > > > > At the moment they look like separate problems. > > Hum, an fsck makes the df -h problem go away. It's hard to see how if the > data returned from the kernel is really correct in both cases? Tim pointed out that f_bfree was > f_blocks, so it's hardly surprising that "df" was getting upset. Definitely a kernel problem. > BTW what kind of unhappiness can we expect from this "inode problem"? Just > things that e2fsck will make go away? That's all I was able to reproduce myself: bad block counts in the various block groups. Other people have reported file corruption, though. --Stephen From jreiser at BitWagon.com Mon Sep 6 18:50:52 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:50:52 -0700 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <1094496122.2687.29.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <200409061731.48029.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094496122.2687.29.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: <413CB18C.4030207@BitWagon.com> >>BTW what kind of unhappiness can we expect from this "inode problem"? Just >>things that e2fsck will make go away? > > > That's all I was able to reproduce myself: bad block counts in the > various block groups. Other people have reported file corruption, > though. After installing .541 as up2date for .538, I saw bad counts in the freelist. So I did an fsck, and found bad counts in the sizes of a few dozen (50? 70?) files (the files had all "grown" by a few blocks or so), and bad filetypes (usually involving to/from filetype 7). I said 'y' to all fsck questions, and have not had trouble since. I double checked with fsck from RHEL3. -- John Reiser, jreiser at BitWagon.com From mwiktowy at gmx.net Mon Sep 6 19:02:09 2004 From: mwiktowy at gmx.net (Michael Wiktowy) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 15:02:09 -0400 Subject: Quake3 and FC3T1 In-Reply-To: <20040906085159.E90167405F@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040906085159.E90167405F@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094497329.10101.6.camel@localhost> > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:56:06 +0300 > From: Pekka Pietikainen > Subject: Re: Quake3 and FC3T1 > To: arjanv at redhat.com, For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <20040906075606.GA9308 at ee.oulu.fi> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 09:45:09AM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout > > > > > > Fixed it (and various other problems) for me. > > > > can you please be more specific about what it fixes? > > this ought to work always realistically, so if stuff breaks we need to > > know. > I've noticed that software that does wineish stuff breaks without > setarch -L (or legacy_va_layout). This includes mplayer using win32 dll > codecs. It's entirely possible quake3 does some funny things to allow > the same libraries to be used with Linux and Win32... > > -- > Pekka Pietikainen I have noticed the same thing with Q3 as well as other closed source programs that I run like TeamSpeak2. The problems started with kernel 2.6.7-1.517 . If I boot to a version earlier than that things work fine. I opened a bug on this a while ago. Please let me know what info I can provide that will help debug this. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=129834 The echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout works like a charm though ... thanks! /Mike From bartk at clara.co.uk Mon Sep 6 19:43:29 2004 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 20:43:29 +0100 Subject: few questions: backup, Samba problems. Message-ID: <1094499809.7526.15.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> I finally pluck up the courage to ask few questions: Is there a backup program that would backup my home folder and evolution settings? I'm thinking about testing daily trees via boot.iso and it would be useful to have a backup. And proper 2.91 is just around a corner and I'm thinking about a clean install but do not feel like setting up KDE to my liking again..and again and again. I want to backup via network to a MS server ( yes, I know ) Since update via Cd's form 2.91 test tree I've lost my mounted drives, they do not appear in my home folder anymore, connecting from MS machines is still possible but connection takes quite a long while. proper listing still appear in the fstab. after first reboot I had both drives, one from each machine visible and accessible, then connection to XP SP2 disappeared and soon after a connection to server 2003. and finally ... an idea, still in a early stage, call it early alpha, http://bart-domain.com/fedora/fedora_boxset.jpg -- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux User #347493 Fedora Core 3 test 1 http://www.bart-domain.com http://astradine.no-ip.org From talbotscott at cox.net Mon Sep 6 20:09:34 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 13:09:34 -0700 Subject: xmms segfault Message-ID: <1094501374.18748.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Hi all. I'm having a few minor glitches in my fresh install of FC3t1. The first is that xmms refuses to run. It worked fine in my original install, and in FC2, of course. I didn't test it prior to installing the 100's of updates, but have tried installing the package from the install cd. Ran strace xmms and sys replied: open("/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/xmms.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/xmms.mo", O_RDONLY) = 7 fstat64(7, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=66056, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 66056, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 7, 0) = 0xf6dd0000 close(7) = 0 fstat64(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(136, 1), ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6dcf000 write(1, "\n", 1 ) = 1 write(1, "Segmentation fault\n", 19Segmentation fault ) = 19 write(1, "\n", 1 ) = 1 write(1, "You\'ve probably found a bug in X"..., 50You've probably found a bug in XMMS, please visit ) = 50 write(1, "http://bugs.xmms.org and fill ou"..., 48http://bugs.xmms.org and fill out a bug report. ) = 48 write(1, "\n", 1 ) = 1 munmap(0xf6dcf000, 4096) = 0 exit_group(1) = ? Now I don't know nearly enough about what this is saying, but I did verify that xmms.mo does exist in the last directory tried and is the right size, has the right permissions etc. I am left with the possibility that the problem is that st_rdev=makedev() might be failing?? is this an incompatibility with udev, or am I just jumping to conclusions. So I figure I can't be alone in seeing this, right?? Anyway it looks like it'll need a rebuild or something a little more involved than my current level of sophistication permits. Any help? Scott -- When in doubt -- Vote 'Em out! From notting at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 20:43:28 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:43:28 -0400 Subject: xmms segfault In-Reply-To: <1094501374.18748.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1094501374.18748.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <20040906204328.GB23276@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Scott Talbot (talbotscott at cox.net) said: > I'm having a few minor glitches in my fresh install of FC3t1. The > first is that xmms refuses to run. It worked fine in my original > install, and in FC2, of course. I didn't test it prior to installing > the 100's of updates, but have tried installing the package from the > install cd. It's because of arts and glib1 and glib2 colliding. There's a potential patch for arts to fix this. Bill From alan at redhat.com Mon Sep 6 21:01:14 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:01:14 -0400 Subject: few questions: backup, Samba problems. In-Reply-To: <1094499809.7526.15.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> References: <1094499809.7526.15.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> Message-ID: <20040906210114.GA27448@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 08:43:29PM +0100, Bart Kalita wrote: > Is there a backup program that would backup my home folder and evolution > settings? > > I'm thinking about testing daily trees via boot.iso and it would be > useful to have a backup. And proper 2.91 is just around a corner and I'm > thinking about a clean install but do not feel like setting up KDE to my > liking again..and again and again. > > I want to backup via network to a MS server ( yes, I know ) Probably the easiest if you have the disk space is to use tar on Linux and then archive the output on the MS box. So cd tar cvfz my-backup.tar.gz . Then save my-backup.tar.gz on the Windows side. From bavinic at comcast.net Mon Sep 6 21:33:46 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:33:46 -0400 Subject: uba: has not changed Message-ID: <413CD7BA.7030302@comcast.net> Greetings, I am running Kernel 2.6.8-1.533 (in FCT31) and keep getting an error (uba:has not changed) it is relentless and does not stop, any idea what this problem is? and how I can fix it? Thank you BaVinic From bavinic at comcast.net Mon Sep 6 21:57:45 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:57:45 -0400 Subject: Excuse me, but why don't you use Quake 3 Arena Message-ID: <413CDD59.40504@comcast.net> Hi Alex, Sorry, my bad, I meant Quake 3 Arena, and it is the Linux version that I am having problems with, the echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout seems to have worked, but there has to be a better way around this. BaVinic Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:03:38 +0200 From: Alessandro Torrisi Subject: Re: Quake3 and FC3T1 To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Message-ID: <200409062003.39020.alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Excuse me, but why don't you use Quake 3 Arena...native version for Linux ??? It's fastest than on Windows !!! Try it !!! Alex. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Sep 6 23:56:28 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 19:56:28 -0400 Subject: yumming up down to for loop In-Reply-To: References: <1094479383.4702.17.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1094514988.4702.74.camel@binkley> > I used a number of exclusions and other tricks to do an update. All > failed with various problems involving xorg-x11 stuff (fonts) > And ended with errors. > The for loop is a hack yes. Should not be necessary yes... > But I got updated that way when other (more normal) attempts > failed. I bailed myself out that way in the past too. Using yum and > up2date. Seems like cutting down the scale helps either app do its > job. it's not the scale. The problems are still there, you're just seeing the problems in specific packages. > Somehow it involved 18 packages to update it since it involved a > number of obsoletes etc. > > `yum --obsoletes xorg-x11-font-utils' worked as expected umm 'yum --obsoletes somepkgname' shouldn't do ANYTHING. There's no command in there. yum [--options] command [arguments] > Prior to updating 99% of what needed it with my for loop > `yum --obsoletes update' > would fail. Even with various excludes I've lost track of now. I'd like to remind everyone the PURPOSE of a test release is to get tests and bugs. If you encounter a problem like this it is either: - a packaging bug - a bug in yum - a bug in rpm If you don't file them we can't find them. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Sep 7 00:14:46 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 20:14:46 -0400 Subject: Yum depressed by changes In-Reply-To: <200409061524.09368.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <200409061159.36992.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094479743.4702.21.camel@binkley> <200409061524.09368.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1094516086.4702.86.camel@binkley> > Sorry Seth, I moved on and that problem is gone. What I did was move to the > redhat repo, it tried to download a new primary.xml.gz but the download > aborted partway the first time.... (note it wrongly jumped to 100%)... > > primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 144 kB 02:01 > developmen: ###### > 422/3513//var/cache/yum/development/primary.xml.gz:25847: parser error : > AttValue: ' expected > ^ > //var/cache/yum/development/primary.xml.gz:25847: parser error : Couldn't find > end of Start Tag entry > > ^ > > //var/cache/yum/development/primary.xml.gz:25847: parser error : attributes > > construct error > > > ^ > > this is interesting. The file came down only partially? > > -sv > > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Sep 7 01:11:56 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 21:11:56 -0400 Subject: Yum depressed by changes In-Reply-To: <1094518711.3835.38.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> References: <200409061159.36992.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094479743.4702.21.camel@binkley> <200409061524.09368.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094516086.4702.86.camel@binkley> <1094518711.3835.38.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: <1094519516.4702.100.camel@binkley> On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 20:58 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: > I had something similar to this too, but one time only. > hmm - okay - I'll try to simulate this one. if anyone can get this one replicable I want to see it. thanks -sv From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 01:10:38 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 21:10:38 -0400 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <1094495204.2687.22.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <20040906163026.GI32028@redhat.com> <1094495204.2687.22.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: <413D0A8E.2060104@sbcglobal.net> Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 17:30, Tim Waugh wrote: > > >>>statfs("/boot", {f_type="EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=1024, f_blocks=248895, f_bfree=389288, f_bavail=376438, f_files=64256, f_ffree=64210, f_fsid={0, 0}, f_namelen=255, f_frsize=1024}) = 0 >>>write(1, "/dev/sda1 248895 -"..., 74) = 74 >>>/dev/sda1 248895 -18446744073709411223 376438 101% /boot >> >>f_blocks is 248895, i.e. total number of blocks. >>f_bfree is 389288, i.e. more free blocks than there are block. >> >>Doesn't seem like a kernel/fs problem to you? > > > Yep, and it's consistent with the breakage I introduced in .538. I > checked on the box that was showing this and indeed a fsck fixed the > issue; you just beat me to posting about it! > > Can anyone reproduce this on a filesystem that hasn't seen the .538 > kernel since its previous fsck? > > --Stephen > > I installed fresh and /dev/hda1 and hda2 were reformatted. The other listed disks, like the sda disks were formatted during an fc3t1 install attempt. The hdb1 and hdb2 contain FC2. The hda5 is the boot partition from the corrupted installation, nothing was done with this partition yet. For the hdb6 partition with all of the errors mkfs was ran on it when booted up in FC2. The attached pure.txt file is from the 541 before installing the 540 downgraded kernel. The 540.dgrd.txt file is from rebooting into the retro kernel. I don't see a difference from the listing for each version. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: pure.txt URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: 540.dgrd.txt URL: From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Sep 6 20:48:50 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:48:50 +0200 Subject: last 543 kenel -> filesystem errors In-Reply-To: <200409052033.25940.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <200409052033.25940.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1094503730.4756.23.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Andy, On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 21:33, Andy Green wrote: > Okay... bad news. I fixed /boot as shown in the parent and went out for the > day. Now I look again and... > > [root at fastcat ~]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hdc2 36G 13G 22G 38% / > ... > /dev/hdc1 99M -16Z 105M 101% /boot > [root at fastcat ~]# uname -r > 2.6.8-1.538 > It's deja vu all over again then.... 543 ext3 is pooping on the fs somehow... ? The above suggests the issue is already existent in 538. So which is it? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 01:27:08 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 21:27:08 -0400 Subject: xmms segfault - fonts -or arts again? In-Reply-To: <1094501374.18748.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1094501374.18748.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <413D0E6C.5070504@sbcglobal.net> Scott Talbot wrote: > > Hi all. > > I'm having a few minor glitches in my fresh install of FC3t1. The > first is that xmms refuses to run. It worked fine in my original > install, and in FC2, of course. I didn't test it prior to installing > the 100's of updates, but have tried installing the package from the > install cd. > > Ran strace xmms and sys replied: > > > open("/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/xmms.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 > ENOENT (No such file or directory) > open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/xmms.mo", O_RDONLY) = 7 > fstat64(7, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=66056, ...}) = 0 > mmap2(NULL, 66056, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 7, 0) = 0xf6dd0000 > close(7) = 0 > fstat64(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(136, 1), ...}) = 0 > mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, > 0) = 0xf6dcf000 > write(1, "\n", 1 > ) = 1 > write(1, "Segmentation fault\n", 19Segmentation fault > ) = 19 > write(1, "\n", 1 > ) = 1 > write(1, "You\'ve probably found a bug in X"..., 50You've probably found > a bug in XMMS, please visit > ) = 50 > write(1, "http://bugs.xmms.org and fill ou"..., 48http://bugs.xmms.org > and fill out a bug report. > ) = 48 > write(1, "\n", 1 > ) = 1 > munmap(0xf6dcf000, 4096) = 0 > exit_group(1) = ? > > Now I don't know nearly enough about what this is saying, but I did > verify that xmms.mo does exist in the last directory tried and is the > right size, has the right permissions etc. I am left with the > possibility that the problem is that st_rdev=makedev() might be > failing?? is this an incompatibility with udev, or am I just jumping to > conclusions. So I figure I can't be alone in seeing this, right?? > > Anyway it looks like it'll need a rebuild or something a little more > involved than my current level of sophistication permits. Any help? > > Scott I am getting the same errors after installing xmms onto FC3T2 candidate. The solution to overriding the problem is to get an .xmms file from a previous installation and apply it to your home directory. The last time this error happened, it was related to arts. I'm not sure if this is a resurfacing of the older bug. I don't have KDE installed on this test session. Is KDE installed on your computer? Anyway, this looks like it might be font related. xmms ** WARNING **: Failed to open font: "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-10-*". is the error that I get on the terminal w/ this particular candidate. xmms-1.2.10-6 arts-1.3.0-1 Go ahead and submit a bug report. I see it here also. Jim From katzj at redhat.com Tue Sep 7 03:21:02 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:21:02 -0400 Subject: FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094527262.3727.67.camel@bree.local.net> On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 17:58 -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > Right now we're down to "no broken dependencies" and "might install". > You'll have to find out for yourself. :-) > > Especially useful would be reports on installs from CD or DVD. Unlike > rawhide, this tree has all the .iso images. > > Where to get it when it's uploaded? > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0903.0/ ... Where to reports bugs/problems? http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/ I can't stress enough that this is the only way for problems to be actively tracked by developers. With the amount of mail received each day, if a problem reports comes in via just mail, it's virtually guaranteed to be forgotten about if it's not something that can be fixed at a glance. Jeremy From lsomike at futzin.com Tue Sep 7 03:51:23 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:51:23 -0500 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <1094495204.2687.22.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <20040906163026.GI32028@redhat.com> <1094495204.2687.22.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409062251.23824.lsomike@futzin.com> On Monday 06 September 2004 13:26, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > > Can anyone reproduce this on a filesystem that hasn't seen the > .538 kernel since its previous fsck? > > --Stephen I can relate a test I ran that will point in the direction that indicates that the 538 kernel is the source of one problem. I started out with the .535 kernel as my latest kernel and followed this sequence. This is a dual boot system with FC1 and FC3T1 sharing the /boot partition. Anyone else should be able to duplicate these results. ================== Boot into 535.... # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on ..... /dev/hda1 101086 20558 75309 22% /boot Install 541 kernel rpm # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on ..... /dev/hda1 101086 22987 72880 24% /boot ================= Boot into 541.... edit /boot/grub/grub.conf as a test .... # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on ..... /dev/hda1 101086 22989 72878 24% /boot ============= Boot into 535, as above "df" shows no problem. ============= Boot into FC1, as above "df" shows no problem. ============= Boot into 535.... Remove .541 Kernel rpm Install .538 Kernel rpm # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on ...... /dev/hda1 101086 22989 72878 24% /boot ================= Boot into 538.... copy /grub.conf grub.conf.bak vi grub.conf "df" now shows problem immediately on /boot partition (as seen below from the FC1 kernel ..... I didn't want to risk copying another file into the root file system now that I know I can create the corrupted partition by using the .538 kernel.) ================= Boot into FC1.... 22:25:58 # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on .... /dev/hda1 101086 -18446744073709548719 98764 101% /boot From reader at newsguy.com Tue Sep 7 04:47:58 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:47:58 -0500 Subject: yumming up down to for loop In-Reply-To: <1094514988.4702.74.camel@binkley> (seth vidal's message of "Mon, 06 Sep 2004 19:56:28 -0400") References: <1094479383.4702.17.camel@binkley> <1094514988.4702.74.camel@binkley> Message-ID: seth vidal writes: > I'd like to remind everyone the PURPOSE of a test release is to get > tests and bugs. > > If you encounter a problem like this it is either: > - a packaging bug > - a bug in yum > - a bug in rpm Seth, not to put too fine a point on it, but so far you have redirected the subject twice... fussed about a typo that was very clear in intent, and have yet to say ONE WORD about the subject. If you don't know a way to cache the read that happens on each invocation of yum, its ok to say so. But why keep dancing around injecting some new subject. You could as well post reminders and the like to your own thread. Or if you have other subject to discuss, start a thread about them. Why do you insist on derailing my subject? There may be someone here with an idea how to do what I asked about. From daily-planet at istari.de Tue Sep 7 05:01:34 2004 From: daily-planet at istari.de (Olaf Mueller) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 07:01:34 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: John Reiser wrote: > While test installing FC3-re0903.0-i386, I noticed that > openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.2-3.i386.rpm is 125MB on CD-ROM > or 790MB on disk, which is about 1/4 of the total 3007MB > disk space required for a Workstation install. Thus it is > the leading option to delete in order to conserve space > using a custom install. Supposedly US English still works > without this package. (And it would be nice if there were > an option to select just a few of the dozens of languages > included in i18n.) I agree with you! I'm sorry to say this is exactly the cause I don't use openoffice.org on my notebook. Olaf From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Sep 7 04:54:24 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 00:54:24 -0400 Subject: yumming up down to for loop In-Reply-To: References: <1094479383.4702.17.camel@binkley> <1094514988.4702.74.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1094532864.4702.110.camel@binkley> On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 23:47 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > seth vidal writes: > > > I'd like to remind everyone the PURPOSE of a test release is to get > > tests and bugs. > > > > If you encounter a problem like this it is either: > > - a packaging bug > > - a bug in yum > > - a bug in rpm > > Seth, not to put too fine a point on it, but so far you have > redirected the subject twice... fussed about a typo that was very > clear in intent, and have yet to say ONE WORD about the subject. I got back from a short break and had 30 email about yum in my mailbox. I wasn't trying to redirect anything. I was trying to get through my email. > If you don't know a way to cache the read that happens on each > invocation of yum, its ok to say so. But why keep dancing around > injecting some new subject. You could as well post reminders and the > like to your own thread. Or if you have other subject to discuss, > start a thread about them. Why do you insist on derailing my subject? Why do you insist on assuming it's malevolent. Caching that data is not all that wise right now. The time is better spent making sure what's happening in the depresolution and installation is correct. remember: make it work make it work correctly make it work fast in that order. You want to cache that data. Yah it can be done, but from the tests I've done so far loading the data off disk from a cPickle is going to take 90% of the time it will take to read it from the xml. starts to look a little less valuable to add complexity, then. -sv From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 04:15:57 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 00:15:57 -0400 Subject: kernel 540 EXT2 related messages - After forcing Filecheck reboot Message-ID: <413D35FD.7030004@sbcglobal.net> After thinking back to the EXT2 reasoning for having an EXT2 filesystem, I realized that it was my fault for performing mkfs on /dev/hdb6 without a journalling flag. I then issued the below command and checked my filesystem. This is an ammendment to the results recorded in the system log after the check. shutdown now -Fr Jim Sep 7 00:04:20 cornette-hda syslogd 1.4.1: restart. Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda syslog: syslogd startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda syslog: klogd startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: klogd 1.4.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: Linux version 2.6.8-1.540 (bhcompile at tweety.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.1 20040831 (Red Hat 3.4.1-10)) #1 Wed Sep 1 14:41:41 EDT 2004 Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: BIOS-provided physical RAM map: Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001fee0000 (usable) Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: BIOS-e820: 000000001fee0000 - 000000001fef8000 (ACPI data) Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: BIOS-e820: 000000001fef8000 - 000000001ff00000 (ACPI NVS) Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved) Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved) Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: 0MB HIGHMEM available. Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda irqbalance: irqbalance startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: 510MB LOWMEM available. Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: zapping low mappings. Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: DMI 2.3 present. Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda portmap: portmap startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: RSDP (v000 AMI ) @ 0x000ff8e0 Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: RSDT (v001 INTEL SOLANO70 0x20010719 IMA 0x00000097) @ 0x1fef0000 Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: FADT (v001 INTEL SOLANO70 0x20010719 IMA 0x00000097) @ 0x1fef1000 Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: DSDT (v001 SSM707 SSM70719 0x00000019 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x00000000 Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x408 Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: Built 1 zonelists Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: mapped 4G/4G trampoline to ffff4000. Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: Initializing CPU#0 Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=023c6000 soft=023c5000 Sep 7 00:04:21 cornette-hda kernel: PID hash table entries: 2048 (order 11: 16384 bytes) Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda rpc.statd[3100]: Version 1.0.6 Starting Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: Detected 802.048 MHz processor. Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: Using tsc for high-res timesource Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda nfslock: rpc.statd startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: Memory: 514320k/523136k available (2024k kernel code, 8296k reserved, 631k data, 144k init, 0k highmem) Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: Initializing. Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: Starting in permissive mode Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda mdmonitor: mdadm startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: Capability LSM initialized as secondary Sep 7 00:04:22 cornette-hda kernel: Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: CPU: L2 cache: 256K Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda mdmonitor: mdadm succeeded Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: Intel machine check architecture supported. Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. Sep 7 00:04:20 cornette-hda network: Bringing up interface eth1: succeeded Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 06 Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger. Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: checking if image is initramfs... it is Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: Freeing initrd memory: 559k freed Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 16 Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdba1, last bus=1 Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1 Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040715 Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda rpcidmapd: rpc.idmapd startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: Interpreter enabled Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00) Sep 7 00:04:23 cornette-hda kernel: PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: get_random_bytes called before random driver initialization Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda rc: Starting pcmcia: succeeded Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15) Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbfs Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hub Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[D] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10 Sep 7 00:04:24 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.3[B] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:01.0[A] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: get_random_bytes called before random driver initialization Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: vesafb: probe of vesafb0 failed with error -6 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac) Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: apm: overridden by ACPI. Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514970.464:0): initialized Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: Initializing Cryptographic API Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ksign: Installing public key data Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: Loading keyring Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: - Added public key 9668C21F60A52CB Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: - User ID: Red Hat, Inc. (Kernel Module GPG key) Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: Processor [CPU1] (supports C1, 8 throttling states) Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset. Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 438M Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf8000000 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing enabled Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ICH: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ICH: chipset revision 2 Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ICH: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA Sep 7 00:04:25 cornette-hda kernel: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hda: WDC AC26400B, ATA DISK drive Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hdb: Maxtor 33073H3, ATA DISK drive Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: Using cfq io scheduler Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hdc: 12X8X32, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hdd: ATAPI DVD+RW 4X4X12, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hda: max request size: 128KiB Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hda: 12594960 sectors (6448 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=13328/15/63, UDMA(33) Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda netfs: Mounting other filesystems: succeeded Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hda: hda1 hda2 Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hdb: max request size: 128KiB Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hdb: 60032448 sectors (30736 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=59556/16/63, UDMA(66) Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb4 Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 4096kB Cache, DMA Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 8192kB Cache, UDMA(33) Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hiddev Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbhid Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 Sep 7 00:04:26 cornette-hda kernel: input: ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1 Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda kernel: serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda kernel: input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda autofs: automount startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda kernel: md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 2 Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda kernel: IP: routing cache hash table of 1024 buckets, 32Kbytes Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda kernel: TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 9362) Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda kernel: Initializing IPsec netlink socket Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 1 Sep 7 00:04:27 cornette-hda kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 17 Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S5) Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda su(pam_unix)[3225]: session opened for user nobody by (uid=0) Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI wakeup devices: Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: PS2K UAR1 UAR2 PCI1 USB1 USB2 SMB0 MODM SLPB Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 144k freed Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: security: 3 users, 4 roles, 253 types, 12 bools Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: security: 53 classes, 3971 rules Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: Completing initialization. Sep 7 00:04:28 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: Setting up existing superblocks. Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev hda2, type ext3), uses xattr Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses xattr Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev selinuxfs, type selinuxfs), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev mqueue, type mqueue), not configured for labeling Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda su(pam_unix)[3225]: session closed for user nobody Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev hugetlbfs, type hugetlbfs), not configured for labeling Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda mDNSResponder: startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev devpts, type devpts), uses transition SIDs Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev eventpollfs, type eventpollfs), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:29 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev pipefs, type pipefs), uses task SIDs Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd[3256]: smartd version 5.30 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses xattr Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd[3256]: Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev futexfs, type futexfs), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd[3256]: Opened configuration file /etc/smartd.conf Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev sockfs, type sockfs), uses task SIDs Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd[3256]: Configuration file /etc/smartd.conf parsed. Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev proc, type proc), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd[3256]: Device: /dev/hda, opened Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev bdev, type bdev), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd[3256]: Device: /dev/hda, not found in smartd database. Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev rootfs, type rootfs), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd[3256]: Device: /dev/hda, is SMART capable. Adding to "monitor" list. Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev sysfs, type sysfs), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd[3256]: Monitoring 1 ATA and 0 SCSI devices Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514978.442:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl scontext=user_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fs_t tclass=filesystem Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd: smartd startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514978.849:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl scontext=user_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fs_t tclass=filesystem Sep 7 00:04:30 cornette-hda smartd[3258]: smartd has fork()ed into background mode. New PID=3258. Sep 7 00:04:31 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev usbfs, type usbfs), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:31 cornette-hda acpid: acpid startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:31 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514981.782:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl scontext=user_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fs_t tclass=filesystem Sep 7 00:04:31 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514981.845:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd name=console dev=tmpfs ino=894 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file Sep 7 00:04:31 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514981.845:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=895 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file Sep 7 00:04:31 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514981.846:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=895 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file Sep 7 00:04:31 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514981.846:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=895 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file Sep 7 00:04:32 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514981.846:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd dev=tmpfs ino=893 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir Sep 7 00:04:32 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514981.847:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd dev=tmpfs ino=893 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir Sep 7 00:04:32 cornette-hda kernel: audit(1094514981.847:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd dev=tmpfs ino=893 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir Sep 7 00:04:32 cornette-hda kernel: inserting floppy driver for 2.6.8-1.540 Sep 7 00:04:32 cornette-hda kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M Sep 7 00:04:32 cornette-hda kernel: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 Sep 7 00:04:32 cornette-hda kernel: ne2k-pci.c:v1.03 9/22/2003 D. Becker/P. Gortmaker Sep 7 00:04:32 cornette-hda kernel: http://www.scyld.com/network/ne2k-pci.html Sep 7 00:04:33 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:01.0[A] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 Sep 7 00:04:33 cornette-hda kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0xdf80, IRQ 10, 52:54:05:E4:A4:39. Sep 7 00:04:33 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Sep 7 00:04:33 cornette-hda kernel: 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html Sep 7 00:04:33 cornette-hda kernel: 0000:01:00.0: 3Com PCI 3c905C Tornado at 0xdc00. Vers LK1.1.19 Sep 7 00:04:33 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 Sep 7 00:04:33 cornette-hda kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49432 usecs Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000 Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: i8xx TCO timer: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: hw_random hardware driver 1.0.0 loaded Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[D] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: UHCI Host Controller Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: irq 11, io base 0000ef80 Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev usbdevfs, type usbdevfs), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found Sep 7 00:04:34 cornette-hda kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected Sep 7 00:04:35 cornette-hda kernel: md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. Sep 7 00:04:35 cornette-hda kernel: md: autorun ... Sep 7 00:04:35 cornette-hda kernel: md: ... autorun DONE. Sep 7 00:04:35 cornette-hda kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 3 Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: hub 1-2:1.0: USB hub found Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: hub 1-2:1.0: 4 ports detected Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: Vendor: HITACHI_ Model: DK23EA-40 Rev: 0 0 Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage Sep 7 00:04:36 cornette-hda kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Sep 7 00:04:37 cornette-hda kernel: usb 1-2.3: new full speed USB device using address 4 Sep 7 00:04:37 cornette-hda kernel: SCSI device sda: 78140160 512-byte hdwr sectors (40008 MB) Sep 7 00:04:37 cornette-hda kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through Sep 7 00:04:37 cornette-hda kernel: sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 Sep 7 00:04:37 cornette-hda kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Sep 7 00:04:37 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev ramfs, type ramfs), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:37 cornette-hda kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 10 Sep 7 00:04:37 cornette-hda kernel: Disabled Privacy Extensions on device 02359760(lo) Sep 7 00:04:37 cornette-hda kernel: IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver Sep 7 00:04:38 cornette-hda kernel: [drm] Initialized i810 1.4.0 20030605 on minor 0: Sep 7 00:04:38 cornette-hda kernel: [drm:i810_unlock] *ERROR* Process 1807 using kernel context 0 Sep 7 00:04:38 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] Sep 7 00:04:38 cornette-hda kernel: ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB] Sep 7 00:04:38 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3 FS on hda2, internal journal Sep 7 00:04:38 cornette-hda kernel: device-mapper: 4.1.0-ioctl (2003-12-10) initialised: dm at uk.sistina.com Sep 7 00:04:38 cornette-hda kernel: cdrom: open failed. Sep 7 00:04:38 cornette-hda kernel: cdrom: open failed. Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: program scsi_unique_id is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda last message repeated 5 times Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev hda1, type ext3), uses xattr Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses xattr Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: Adding 2216960k swap on /dev/hdb4. Priority:-1 extents:1 Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev binfmt_misc, type binfmt_misc), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] Sep 7 00:04:39 cornette-hda kernel: parport0: irq 7 detected Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda udev[3291]: creating device node '/dev/lp0' Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 810C Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda kernel: ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda kernel: ip_conntrack version 2.1 (4087 buckets, 32696 max) - 388 bytes per conntrack Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda cups: cupsd startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev rpc_pipefs, type rpc_pipefs), uses genfs_contexts Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda sshd: succeeded Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda kernel: parport0: irq 7 detected Sep 7 00:04:41 cornette-hda kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 810C Sep 7 00:04:42 cornette-hda kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling). Sep 7 00:04:42 cornette-hda kernel: lp0: console ready Sep 7 00:04:42 cornette-hda xinetd: xinetd startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:43 cornette-hda xinetd[3325]: xinetd Version 2.3.13 started with libwrap loadavg options compiled in. Sep 7 00:04:43 cornette-hda xinetd[3325]: Started working: 0 available services Sep 7 00:04:43 cornette-hda sendmail: sendmail startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:43 cornette-hda sendmail: sm-client startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:44 cornette-hda gpm[3366]: *** info [startup.c(95)]: Sep 7 00:04:44 cornette-hda gpm[3366]: Started gpm successfully. Entered daemon mode. Sep 7 00:04:44 cornette-hda gpm[3366]: *** info [mice.c(1766)]: Sep 7 00:04:44 cornette-hda gpm[3366]: imps2: Auto-detected intellimouse PS/2 Sep 7 00:04:44 cornette-hda gpm: gpm startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:44 cornette-hda crond: crond startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:45 cornette-hda xfs: xfs startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:45 cornette-hda anacron: anacron startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:45 cornette-hda xfs[3401]: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled (unreadable) Sep 7 00:04:45 cornette-hda xfs[3401]: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled (unreadable) Sep 7 00:04:45 cornette-hda atd: atd startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:46 cornette-hda xfs[3401]: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo (unreadable) Sep 7 00:04:46 cornette-hda readahead: Starting background readahead: Sep 7 00:04:46 cornette-hda rc: Starting readahead: succeeded Sep 7 00:04:48 cornette-hda messagebus: messagebus startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:49 cornette-hda cups-config-daemon: cups-config-daemon startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:49 cornette-hda haldaemon: haldaemon startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:49 cornette-hda sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 Sep 7 00:04:49 cornette-hda sysctl: net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter = 1 Sep 7 00:04:49 cornette-hda sysctl: kernel.sysrq = 0 Sep 7 00:04:49 cornette-hda sysctl: kernel.core_uses_pid = 1 Sep 7 00:04:49 cornette-hda NetworkManager: Setting network parameters: succeeded Sep 7 00:04:49 cornette-hda NetworkManager: starting... Sep 7 00:04:51 cornette-hda NetworkManager: NetworkManager startup succeeded Sep 7 00:04:51 cornette-hda NetworkManager: AUTO: Best wired device = (null) Sep 7 00:04:51 cornette-hda NetworkManager: AUTO: Best wireless device = (null) (null) Sep 7 00:04:52 cornette-hda fstab-sync[3506]: removed all generated mount points Sep 7 00:04:55 cornette-hda fstab-sync[3571]: added mount point /media/usbdisk for /dev/sda3 Sep 7 00:04:55 cornette-hda fstab-sync[3576]: added mount point /media/usbdisk1 for /dev/sda2 Sep 7 00:04:56 cornette-hda fstab-sync[3581]: added mount point /media/usbdisk2 for /dev/sda1 Sep 7 00:04:56 cornette-hda fstab-sync[3602]: added mount point /media/cdrw_dvdr for /dev/hdd Sep 7 00:04:56 cornette-hda fstab-sync[3611]: added mount point /media/cdrw for /dev/hdc Sep 7 00:04:57 cornette-hda fstab-sync[3629]: added mount point /media/idedisk for /dev/hdb6 Sep 7 00:04:57 cornette-hda fstab-sync[3634]: added mount point /media/idedisk1 for /dev/hdb5 Sep 7 00:04:58 cornette-hda fstab-sync[3702]: added mount point /media/floppy for /dev/fd0 Sep 7 00:04:59 cornette-hda NetworkManager: nm_create_device_and_add_to_list(): adding device 'eth1' (wired) Sep 7 00:04:59 cornette-hda NetworkManager: SIOCGMIIPHY on eth0 failed: Operation not supported Sep 7 00:04:59 cornette-hda NetworkManager: nm_create_device_and_add_to_list(): adding device 'eth0' (wired) Sep 7 00:04:59 cornette-hda NetworkManager: AUTO: Best wired device = eth1 Sep 7 00:04:59 cornette-hda NetworkManager: AUTO: Best wireless device = (null) (null) Sep 7 00:04:59 cornette-hda NetworkManager: nm_state_modification_monitor(): beginning activation for device 'eth1' Sep 7 00:04:59 cornette-hda dhclient: sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 Sep 7 00:05:00 cornette-hda dhclient: sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 Sep 7 00:05:02 cornette-hda init: open(/dev/pts/0): No such file or directory Sep 7 00:05:02 cornette-hda last message repeated 4 times Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda init: open(/dev/pts/0): No such file or directory Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda init: open(/dev/pts/0): No such file or directory Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3773]: creating device node '/dev/vcs1' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3781]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa1' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3818]: creating device node '/dev/vcs2' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3826]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa2' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3969]: creating device node '/dev/vcs1' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3973]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa1' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3863]: creating device node '/dev/vcs3' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3871]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa3' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[4000]: creating device node '/dev/vcs2' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[4002]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa2' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3908]: creating device node '/dev/vcs4' Sep 7 00:05:03 cornette-hda udev[3915]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa4' Sep 7 00:05:04 cornette-hda dhclient: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 Sep 7 00:05:04 cornette-hda udev[4019]: creating device node '/dev/vcs3' Sep 7 00:05:04 cornette-hda udev[3956]: creating device node '/dev/vcs5' Sep 7 00:05:04 cornette-hda udev[3977]: creating device node '/dev/vcs6' Sep 7 00:05:04 cornette-hda udev[4054]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa3' Sep 7 00:05:04 cornette-hda udev[3985]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa6' Sep 7 00:05:05 cornette-hda udev[4113]: creating device node '/dev/vcs4' Sep 7 00:05:05 cornette-hda udev[4115]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa4' Sep 7 00:05:05 cornette-hda udev[4117]: creating device node '/dev/vcs5' Sep 7 00:05:05 cornette-hda udev[4036]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa5' Sep 7 00:05:05 cornette-hda udev[4119]: creating device node '/dev/vcs6' Sep 7 00:05:05 cornette-hda udev[4121]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa6' Sep 7 00:05:05 cornette-hda NET: /sbin/dhclient-script : updated /etc/resolv.conf Sep 7 00:05:05 cornette-hda dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.103 -- renewal in 75766 seconds. Sep 7 00:05:05 cornette-hda udev[4150]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa5' Sep 7 00:05:06 cornette-hda NetworkManager: nm_state_modification_monitor() activated device eth1 Sep 7 00:05:07 cornette-hda udev[4211]: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 7 00:05:07 cornette-hda udev[4219]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 7 00:05:08 cornette-hda udev[4265]: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 7 00:05:08 cornette-hda udev[4261]: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 7 00:05:09 cornette-hda kernel: [drm:i810_unlock] *ERROR* Process 4225 using kernel context 0 Sep 7 00:07:22 cornette-hda gdm(pam_unix)[4208]: session opened for user jim by (uid=0) Sep 7 00:07:24 cornette-hda gconfd (jim-4335): starting (version 2.7.92), pid 4335 user 'jim' Sep 7 00:07:24 cornette-hda gconfd (jim-4335): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0 Sep 7 00:07:24 cornette-hda gconfd (jim-4335): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/home/jim/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 1 Sep 7 00:07:24 cornette-hda gconfd (jim-4335): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 2 Sep 7 00:07:28 cornette-hda bonobo-activation-server (jim-4340): iid OAFIID:BrokenNoType:20000808 has a NULL type Sep 7 00:07:28 cornette-hda bonobo-activation-server (jim-4340): invalid character '#' in iid 'OAFIID:This#!!%$iid%^$%_|~!OAFIID_ContainsBadChars' Sep 7 00:07:39 cornette-hda kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Sep 7 00:07:39 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3 FS on hdb5, internal journal Sep 7 00:07:39 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Sep 7 00:07:39 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev hdb5, type ext3), uses xattr Sep 7 00:07:39 cornette-hda kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended Sep 7 00:07:39 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev hdb6, type ext2), uses xattr Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev sda1, type ext3), uses xattr Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3 FS on sda2, internal journal Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev sda2, type ext3), uses xattr Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3 FS on sda3, internal journal Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Sep 7 00:07:40 cornette-hda kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev sda3, type ext3), uses xattr From warlock_ba at hotmail.com Tue Sep 7 05:24:58 2004 From: warlock_ba at hotmail.com (Botoaca Andrei) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 08:24:58 +0300 Subject: xmms segfault Message-ID: No, the problem is with the arts detection patch, and the new arts. If you remove the patch from heapening, everything will work fine. >From: Bill Nottingham >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: xmms segfault >Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:43:28 -0400 > >Scott Talbot (talbotscott at cox.net) said: > > I'm having a few minor glitches in my fresh install of FC3t1. The > > first is that xmms refuses to run. It worked fine in my original > > install, and in FC2, of course. I didn't test it prior to installing > > the 100's of updates, but have tried installing the package from the > > install cd. > >It's because of arts and glib1 and glib2 colliding. There's a potential >patch for arts to fix this. > >Bill > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From fedora at warmcat.com Tue Sep 7 07:27:55 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:27:55 +0100 Subject: 538 kenel -> filesystem errors In-Reply-To: <1094503730.4756.23.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <200409052033.25940.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094503730.4756.23.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <200409070827.59243.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 06 September 2004 21:48, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > ? The above suggests the issue is already existent in 538. So which is > it? My title was wrong, uname was right: sorry for the confusion. I upgraded to 541 and I did not yet see the problem again. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBPWL/jKeDCxMJCTIRAhCzAJ47jgnGHeoKBRdMDg4VoW6hyt24QwCeIe3J tmzJa3rTl8gh8lkUfJrncI4= =dDVn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 03:52:01 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:52:01 -0400 Subject: kernel 540 EXT2 related messages - unchecked FS Message-ID: <413D3061.7060909@sbcglobal.net> I am running the 540 version now and noted a warning popup on a tty relating to EXT2 filesystem. the entire log can be viewed at bugzilla for the X problem. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=103524&action=view Clean install w/ 541, reverting to 540. Jim cat recovered.messages.txt |grep EXT2 Sep 6 02:36:29 cornette-hda kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended Sep 6 02:40:09 cornette-hda kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended Sep 6 02:52:11 cornette-hda kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended Sep 6 02:56:44 cornette-hda kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended Sep 6 20:49:18 cornette-hda kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended Sep 6 23:11:01 cornette-hda kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended Sep 6 23:18:17 cornette-hda kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended Sep 6 23:27:40 cornette-hda kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fs From russell at coker.com.au Tue Sep 7 08:24:00 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 18:24:00 +1000 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> References: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> Message-ID: <200409071824.00096.russell@coker.com.au> On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:51, Jim Cornette wrote: > I finally installed the test candidate and found X not working, avc > errors, general features that I consider bothersome. With this messages, > I wanted to relay attached avc errors, xorg-x11 errors etc. I won't but > will files a bug report with the files soon. Is it using tmpfs for /dev? -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From sct at redhat.com Tue Sep 7 08:34:29 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 07 Sep 2004 09:34:29 +0100 Subject: last 543 kenel -> filesystem errors In-Reply-To: <1094503730.4756.23.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <200409052033.25940.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094503730.4756.23.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1094546069.2005.3.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 21:48, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 21:33, Andy Green wrote: > > Okay... bad news. I fixed /boot as shown in the parent and went out for the > > day. Now I look again and... > > /dev/hdc1 99M -16Z 105M 101% /boot > > [root at fastcat ~]# uname -r > > 2.6.8-1.538 > > > It's deja vu all over again then.... 543 ext3 is pooping on the fs somehow... > ? The above suggests the issue is already existent in 538. So which is > it? It's 538. 538 corrupted these counts *on disk*, so just upgrading the kernel won't fix them --- you need a fsck. An inconsistency in the block counts is not serious enough to cause ext3 to abort the fs, so it won't set the flag that forces an automatic fsck on the next boot. So once 538 causes that problem, even once you upgrade to a newer kernel the problem will persist until you force a full fsck. The easiest way to force a full fsck is touch /.autofsck /sbin/reboot --Stephen From alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it Tue Sep 7 08:25:17 2004 From: alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it (Alessandro Torrisi) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:25:17 +0200 Subject: Excuse me, but why don't you use Quake 3 Arena In-Reply-To: <20040907051606.43B50746FD@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040907051606.43B50746FD@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409071025.17729.alessandro.torrisi@eurone.it> Hi!, well sorry for the misunderstanding, but probably something more interesting than the Wine emulation has been sad here... What is this command ??? What is the parameter legacy_va_layout ??? echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout What about this ? When it applies ? (Excuse me for my english !!!) Alex. From cervajs at fpf.slu.cz Tue Sep 7 10:54:47 2004 From: cervajs at fpf.slu.cz (marek cervenka) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 12:54:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: ppp + radius plugin In-Reply-To: <1092571183.2880.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: hi, why isn't pppd compiled with radius plugin? -- ------------------------------------- Marek Cervenka Centrum Vypocetni Techniky CVT - http://cvt.fpf.slu.cz FPF SLU OPAVA - http://www.fpf.slu.cz ===================================== From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 10:56:32 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:56:32 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <200409071824.00096.russell@coker.com.au> References: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> <200409071824.00096.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <413D93E0.7030301@sbcglobal.net> Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:51, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>I finally installed the test candidate and found X not working, avc >>errors, general features that I consider bothersome. With this messages, >>I wanted to relay attached avc errors, xorg-x11 errors etc. I won't but >>will files a bug report with the files soon. > > > Is it using tmpfs for /dev? > It is using the below for tmpfs none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) the system log lists the attached messages when piped to grep avc | grep tmpfs Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: avc-tmpfs.txt URL: From harald at redhat.com Tue Sep 7 11:14:18 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:14:18 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <413D93E0.7030301@sbcglobal.net> References: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> <200409071824.00096.russell@coker.com.au> <413D93E0.7030301@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <413D980A.20107@redhat.com> Jim Cornette wrote: > Russell Coker wrote: > >> On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:51, Jim Cornette >> wrote: >> >>> I finally installed the test candidate and found X not working, avc >>> errors, general features that I consider bothersome. With this messages, >>> I wanted to relay attached avc errors, xorg-x11 errors etc. I won't but >>> will files a bug report with the files soon. >> >> >> >> Is it using tmpfs for /dev? >> > > It is using the below for tmpfs > > none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) > > the system log lists the attached messages when piped to > grep avc | grep tmpfs > > Jim well, this is tmpfs mounted on /dev # cat /proc/mounts |fgrep tmpfs none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 02:50:38 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:50:38 -0400 Subject: i815 and redhat bug report for FC3T2 Message-ID: <413D21FE.8070001@sbcglobal.net> As this bug is pretty serious for those trying to install the upcoming FC3 version and this failure is still going strong with the test candidate, I submitted a bug for FC3T2. The bug number is 131934 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131934 Since this is the dawn of the new test phase, this should be easy to spot for installers that do not monitor this list. Please file any similar problems within this error report. As a question to anyone having a refreshing problem with X, are there any outstanding bug reports filed recently that are not closed? I think that the refresh problem was introduced by the not working at all patch. Jim From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 11:31:07 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 07:31:07 -0400 Subject: xmms segfault In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <413D9BFB.3070702@sbcglobal.net> Botoaca Andrei wrote: > No, the problem is with the arts detection patch, and the new arts. If > you remove the patch from heapening, everything will work fine. This sounds like the exact problem symptoms from the earlier bug report submitted. Either importing an .xmms working directory from a previous installation or leaving out the arts detection patch would allow for a first time usage of xmms. After the .xmms configuration directory is setup properly, you only get the font related error. Jim >> From: Bill Nottingham >> Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> >> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> >> Subject: Re: xmms segfault >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:43:28 -0400 >> >> Scott Talbot (talbotscott at cox.net) said: >> > I'm having a few minor glitches in my fresh install of FC3t1. The >> > first is that xmms refuses to run. It worked fine in my original >> > install, and in FC2, of course. I didn't test it prior to installing >> > the 100's of updates, but have tried installing the package from the >> > install cd. >> >> It's because of arts and glib1 and glib2 colliding. There's a potential >> patch for arts to fix this. >> >> Bill >> >> From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 11:24:08 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 07:24:08 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <413D980A.20107@redhat.com> References: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> <200409071824.00096.russell@coker.com.au> <413D93E0.7030301@sbcglobal.net> <413D980A.20107@redhat.com> Message-ID: <413D9A58.9040309@sbcglobal.net> Harald Hoyer wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Russell Coker wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:51, Jim Cornette >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I finally installed the test candidate and found X not working, avc >>>> errors, general features that I consider bothersome. With this >>>> messages, >>>> I wanted to relay attached avc errors, xorg-x11 errors etc. I won't but >>>> will files a bug report with the files soon. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Is it using tmpfs for /dev? >>> >> >> It is using the below for tmpfs >> >> none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) >> >> the system log lists the attached messages when piped to >> grep avc | grep tmpfs >> >> Jim > > > well, this is tmpfs mounted on /dev > > # cat /proc/mounts |fgrep tmpfs > none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 > > I get dual entries for tmpfs. Is this usual? Jim $ cat /proc/mounts |fgrep tmpfs none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Tue Sep 7 16:34:56 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <413D9A58.9040309@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040907163456.41495.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> >$ cat /proc/mounts |fgrep tmpfs >none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 >none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 >none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 I've seen this kind of thing when a umount fails because the filesystem is busy and then subsequently remounts the filesystem. Not sure if this is the case. Are there any peculiar messages from bootup? initrd tends to write things to the screen rather than logging them, so it may be hard to see. -Steve Grubb __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Tue Sep 7 19:33:00 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:33:00 -0300 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <1094585580.9399.1.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Ter, 2004-09-07 ?s 02:01, Olaf Mueller escreveu: > > an option to select just a few of the dozens of languages > > included in i18n.) > I agree with you! > I'm sorry to say this is exactly the cause I don't use openoffice.org > on my notebook. Why not separate each language in a rpm, just like kde? -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From dcbw at redhat.com Tue Sep 7 19:55:15 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:55:15 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094585580.9399.1.camel@steelgoose.com> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094585580.9399.1.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: <1094586915.15553.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Jeremy Katz (anaconda/installer guy) is of the opinion that its going to make life harder for many people and the user experience worse as well. I'll let him elaborate... Jeremy? Dan On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 16:33 -0300, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Ter, 2004-09-07 ?s 02:01, Olaf Mueller escreveu: > > > > an option to select just a few of the dozens of languages > > > included in i18n.) > > I agree with you! > > I'm sorry to say this is exactly the cause I don't use openoffice.org > > on my notebook. > > Why not separate each language in a rpm, just like kde? > > -- > []s > > Alexandre Ganso > 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group > > From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Sep 6 22:07:51 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 18:07:51 -0400 Subject: uba: has not changed In-Reply-To: <413CD7BA.7030302@comcast.net> References: <413CD7BA.7030302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <604aa79104090615075e5d028c@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:33:46 -0400, Jim Martin wrote: > Greetings, > I am running Kernel 2.6.8-1.533 (in FCT31) and keep getting an error > (uba:has not changed) it is relentless and does not stop, any idea what > this problem is? and how I can fix it? Thank you Simple, do not use the 533 kernel. The 532 and 533 kernels had the "not quite ready for primetime" ub driver activated. Any kernel from the development tree after 533 has the ub driver deactivated. -jef From pp at ee.oulu.fi Tue Sep 7 20:01:00 2004 From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:01:00 +0300 Subject: Quake3 and FC3T1 In-Reply-To: <20040906143538.GA2736@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <413A9D4A.9010706@comcast.net> <20040906074005.GA22328@ra.is> <1094456708.2799.5.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <413C74FC.2000107@flarn.com> <20040906143538.GA2736@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040907200100.GA4883@ee.oulu.fi> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 04:35:38PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > Sure. Neither Cedega (Transgaming's WineX) nor Crossover (Codeweavers) will > > run without legacy_va_layout set to 1. They will fail with an "Error=21" > > from the wineserver. > > ok both are wine based; the 548 kernel I'm building right now should have a > workaround for wine in this case (but wine is kinda making an invalid > assumption; it's just not clear how it SHOULD do the right thing and > communicate it's requirement... but that's a different story). Hiya Wine and mplayer work perfectly with 549 even without legacy_va_layout=1! -- Pekka Pietikainen From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 21:39:13 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:39:13 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <20040907163456.41495.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040907163456.41495.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <413E2A81.9040104@sbcglobal.net> Steve G wrote: >>$ cat /proc/mounts |fgrep tmpfs >>none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 >>none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 >>none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 > > > I've seen this kind of thing when a umount fails because the filesystem is busy > and then subsequently remounts the filesystem. Not sure if this is the case. Are > there any peculiar messages from bootup? initrd tends to write things to the > screen rather than logging them, so it may be hard to see. > > -Steve Grubb > > In the Kernel Startup log, there are these messages. I have two IDE hard drives and one USB drive. (IDE drive in USB adapter).The boot log just has suceeded listed. The only other errors relate to the two cdroms open failed. Probing IDE interface ide2... ide2: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide3... ide3: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide4... ide4: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide5... ide5: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Also there are these SELinux errors listed. Jim SELinux: initialized (dev sysfs, type sysfs), uses genfs_contexts audit(1094514978.442:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl scontext=user_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fs_t tclass=filesystem audit(1094514978.849:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl scontext=user_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fs_t tclass=filesystem SELinux: initialized (dev usbfs, type usbfs), uses genfs_contexts audit(1094514981.782:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl scontext=user_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fs_t tclass=filesystem audit(1094514981.845:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd name=console dev=tmpfs ino=894 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file audit(1094514981.845:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=895 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file audit(1094514981.846:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=895 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file audit(1094514981.846:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=895 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=chr_file audit(1094514981.846:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd dev=tmpfs ino=893 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir audit(1094514981.847:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd dev=tmpfs ino=893 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir audit(1094514981.847:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=703 exe=/sbin/minilogd dev=tmpfs ino=893 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir From alan at redhat.com Tue Sep 7 22:41:07 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 18:41:07 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <413E2A81.9040104@sbcglobal.net> References: <20040907163456.41495.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> <413E2A81.9040104@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040907224107.GA17190@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 05:39:13PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Probing IDE interface ide2... > ide2: Wait for ready failed before probe ! These are just debug, they could probably go entirely From janina at rednote.net Wed Sep 8 00:11:56 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:11:56 -0400 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <1094486681.2687.11.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040905192545.GA3541@rednote.net> <1094486681.2687.11.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040908001156.GA3980@rednote.net> Stephen C. Tweedie writes: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 20:25, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > I can get a kernel oops from intense disk writes/reads. On the other > > hand, heavy CPU usage seems fine. So, I think there's something funky > > about disk i/o as well. > > Do you have a record of the oops, by any chance? Well, not exactly. But maybe what I do have may prove useful. Just in the last hour I've had a scarry experience. Situation: I noticed several dozen lynx cache files sitting in my $HOME. Since I wasn't in lynx, I figured it OK to rm L* -- bad choice. I froze.. During the subsequent reboot the system froze during file system check. So, I try going single user -- never got a shell prompt. Froze during /home check. So, I went init=/bin/sh. This gave me something like: Switching to console tty0 ... No such file or directory Kernel panic, unable to sync, trying to kill init Got this from both 541 UP and 541 SMP ... So, I backed up to 521. I oops'd during my first run of e2fsck on /home. But, on the second round it almost concluded. It found errors, including an illegal inode in the orphan list. Just as it was writing the results, I got a GPF that I was able to snag, namely: /home: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /home: 473361/122077184 files (3.2% non-contiguous), 43865614/244129756 blocks general protection fault: 0000 [1] SMP CPU 0 Modules linked in: pcspkr ext3 jbd 3w_9xxx aic79xx sd_mod scsi_mod Pid: 270, comm: e2fsck Not tainted 2.6.8-1.521smp RIP: 0010:[] {find_get_pages+106} RSP: 0018:000001007f785d98 EFLAGS: 00010087 RAX: 000000000000000f RBX: 000001003ffae8a0 RCX: 000000000000000f RDX: 0080000000000000 RSI: 0000000000000010 RDI: 0000000000000032 RBP: 0000000000000010 R08: 0000000000000001 R09: 0000000000000256 R10: 00000000031df7b3 R11: 0000000000000000 R12: 00000000031de326 R13: 000001007f785df0 R14: ffffffffffffffff R15: 000001003ffae8a0 FS: 0000002a9557bd60(0000) GS:ffffffff804e3080(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000 CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 000000008005003b CR2: 0000002a972ae000 CR3: 0000000000101000 CR4: 00000000000006e0 Process e2fsck (pid: 270, threadinfo 000001007f784000, task 000001003f6d44b0) Stack: 0000010040b35ed0 0000010040b35ed0 000001007f785de8 000001007f785de8 00000000031de326 0000000000000010 0000000000001fb0 ffffffff80164105 0000010040b35ed0 ffffffff801646cf Call Trace:{pagevec_lookup+23} {invalidate_mapping_pages+203} {invalidate_bh_lru+45} {kill_bdev+14} {blkdev_put+157} {__fput+77} {filp_close+105} {sys_close+215} {system_call+126} Code: 8b 02 48 c1 e8 13 a8 01 74 04 48 8b 52 10 f0 ff 42 04 ff c1 RIP {find_get_pages+106} RSP <000001007f785d98> Segmentation fault sh-2.05b# : Looking through my logs I find one Oops actually in there. Seems to be triggered by dns lookups somehow ... Sep 5 17:49:11 concerto named[2192]: lame server resolving '30.177.132.209.bl.blueshore.net' (in 'blueshore.NET'?): 63.166.78.19#53 Sep 5 17:49:25 concerto named[2192]: lame server resolving 'ns1.ly.com' (in 'ly.com'?): 63.166.78.19#53 Sep 5 17:49:25 concerto named[2192]: lame server resolving 'ns2.ly.com' (in 'ly.com'?): 63.166.78.19#53 Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: __journal_remove_journal_head: freeing b_committed_data Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at 0000000000486680 RIP: Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: {kfree+75} Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: PML4 3a6d9067 PGD 0 Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: Oops: 0000 [1] SMP Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: CPU 0 Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: Modules linked in: ipt_state ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat ip_conntrack nfsd exportfs lockd md5 ipv6 parport_pc lp parport autofs4 rfcomm l2cap bluetooth ds yenta_socket pcmcia_core sunrpc iptable_filter ip_tables dm_mod snd_usb_audio snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_usb_lib snd_rawmidi snd_seq_device snd soundcore ohci_hcd e100 mii tg3 floppy sg speakup_ltlk speakupmain pcspkr ext3 jbd 3w_9xxx aic79xx sd_mod scsi_mod Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: Pid: 1264, comm: kjournald Not tainted 2.6.8-1.541.rootsmp Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: RIP: 0010:[] {kfree+75} Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: RSP: 0018:000001003d917aa8 EFLAGS: 00010016 Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: RAX: 000000007fff0000 RBX: 0000010006676450 RCX: 0000000000000018 Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: RDX: ffffffff80415168 RSI: 0000000000000001 RDI: 0080000000000000 Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: RBP: 0080000000000000 R08: ffffffff80415168 R09: 0000000100000000 Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: R10: ffffff0000086118 R11: 0000010001e426d0 R12: 000001007fe06600 Sep 5 13:55:20 concerto kernel: R13: 000001007ca0aa80 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: 0000000000000008 Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: FS: 0000002a9557b4c0(0000) GS:ffffffff804efb00(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000 Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 000000008005003b Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: CR2: 0000000000486680 CR3: 0000000000101000 CR4: 00000000000006e0 Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: Process kjournald (pid: 1264, threadinfo 000001003d916000, task 000001003cfc6130) Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: Stack: ffffffff80415168 0000000000000206 0000010006676450 0000010006a504a8 Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: 000001007fe06600 ffffffffa006bb44 0000000000000000 0000010006a504a8 Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: 0000010006676450 ffffffffa006bba0 Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: Call Trace:{:jbd:__journal_remove_journal_head+309} Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: {:jbd:journal_remove_journal_head+48} Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: {:jbd:journal_commit_transaction+2246} Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: {:jbd:kjournald+333} {autoremove_wake_function+0} Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: {autoremove_wake_function+0} {:jbd:commit_timeout+0} Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: {child_rip+8} {:jbd:kjournald+0} Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: {child_rip+0} Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: Code: 48 0f b6 80 80 66 49 80 48 8b 0c c5 80 67 49 80 48 b8 ff ff Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: RIP {kfree+75} RSP <000001003d917aa8> Sep 5 13:55:21 concerto kernel: CR2: 0000000000486680 > > Thanks, > Stephen > -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Tue Sep 7 22:16:26 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:16:26 -0300 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094586915.15553.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094585580.9399.1.camel@steelgoose.com> <1094586915.15553.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1094595386.9399.10.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Ter, 2004-09-07 ?s 16:55, Dan Williams escreveu: > Jeremy Katz (anaconda/installer guy) is of the opinion that its going to > make life harder for many people and the user experience worse as well. > I'll let him elaborate... User experience? I did a small test some days ago. Tried to separate my own language (brazilian portuguese - red hat never provided a pt_BR openoffice, altough it exists). It is a 1.6mb rpm file, which turned to use 6mb on hard drive. If I want to update openoffice, it is 164 megabytes LESS which I need to transfer. If this is a worse user experience... -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 7 23:14:37 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:14:37 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <20040907224107.GA17190@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040907163456.41495.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> <413E2A81.9040104@sbcglobal.net> <20040907224107.GA17190@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <413E40DD.1080107@sbcglobal.net> Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 05:39:13PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Probing IDE interface ide2... >>ide2: Wait for ready failed before probe ! > > > These are just debug, they could probably go entirely > > Thanks for the insight regarding the messages in the kernel startup log. I won't be alarmed now seeing this in the log. Regarding the tmpfs duplicate entries. I rebooted the computer to see if the problem with two entries for tmpfs were related to a lazy unmounting a disk or CDROM recently. The entries were still there. cat /proc/mounts |fgrep tmpfs none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 I noticed this error with a cold reboot of my computer. I think this is video related or chipset related. I don't know though. I810-tco patches were found doing a google search. Error message: i8xx TCO timer: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware Jim From talbotscott at cox.net Wed Sep 8 01:21:26 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:21:26 -0700 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 09:01 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > While test installing FC3-re0903.0-i386, I noticed that > openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.2-3.i386.rpm is 125MB on CD-ROM > or 790MB on disk, which is about 1/4 of the total 3007MB > disk space required for a Workstation install. Thus it is > the leading option to delete in order to conserve space > using a custom install. Supposedly US English still works > without this package. (And it would be nice if there were > an option to select just a few of the dozens of languages > included in i18n.) > > -- > John Reiser, jreiser at BitWagon.com > Has anyone tried deleting the openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.2-3 rpm? I would expect that it would not be updated anymore as it's not on the system. Unfortunately this would only work for US-Eng users, but I'd bet it wouldn't be too hard to make rpm's or even tarballs of the other languages. Maybe someone could talk livna or Dag into putting them on their servers? Even better OOorg themselves could be made to see the light? Scott -- When in doubt -- Vote 'Em out! From mullens at ntlworld.com Wed Sep 8 00:59:13 2004 From: mullens at ntlworld.com (richard mullens) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 01:59:13 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <413E5961.3010503@ntlworld.com> Scott Talbot wrote: >On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 09:01 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > >>While test installing FC3-re0903.0-i386, I noticed that >>openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.2-3.i386.rpm is 125MB on CD-ROM >>or 790MB on disk, which is about 1/4 of the total 3007MB >>disk space required for a Workstation install. Thus it is >>the leading option to delete in order to conserve space >>using a custom install. Supposedly US English still works >>without this package. (And it would be nice if there were >>an option to select just a few of the dozens of languages >>included in i18n.) >> >>-- >>John Reiser, jreiser at BitWagon.com >> > >Has anyone tried deleting the openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.2-3 rpm? I would >expect that it would not be updated anymore as it's not on the system. >Unfortunately this would only work for US-Eng users, but I'd bet it >wouldn't be too hard to make rpm's or even tarballs of the other >languages. Maybe someone could talk livna or Dag into putting them on >their servers? Even better OOorg themselves could be made to see the >light? > Disk space costs money and it takes time to install languages that won't be needed. However, I like the feeling that I am part of a global collaborative effort and there are times when those accented and non european language characters etc will come in useful. I say keep it all together in pursuit of a common understanding between peoples - this is the enlightened way ! From notting at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 06:14:04 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 02:14:04 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: pcmcia-cs-3.2.7-1.8.2.1 Message-ID: <20040908061403.GA11290@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> -------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-296 2004-09-08 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : pcmcia-cs Version : 3.2.7 Release : 1.8.2.1 Summary : Utilities for handling PCMCIA devices Description : User-level daemon and utilities for using PCMCIA devices on Linux. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update fixes a few problems in the PCMCIA init script. If there are no new regressions, this updae will be pushed final by Wednesday, September 15th. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Sep 08 2004 Bill Nottingham - minor init script fixes (#121742,#127627) * Tue Jun 15 2004 Elliot Lee - rebuilt --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ cc2d96e1dc071acac931c78ff98d2a2b SRPMS/pcmcia-cs-3.2.7-1.8.2.1.src.rpm f9bf66af5387a9b3f3e54175a38f15dc x86_64/pcmcia-cs-3.2.7-1.8.2.1.x86_64.rpm bb959e1c615759dc5fdf869c19d6d9e0 x86_64/debug/pcmcia-cs-debuginfo-3.2.7-1.8.2.1.x86_64.rpm b5a6fe5d427dfd5b17fab3f259ed6b0c i386/pcmcia-cs-3.2.7-1.8.2.1.i386.rpm 87f9df8ab39a0d48b00752b2ec17968a i386/debug/pcmcia-cs-debuginfo-3.2.7-1.8.2.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Sep 8 07:28:44 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 09:28:44 +0200 Subject: 538 kenel -> filesystem errors In-Reply-To: <200409070827.59243.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <200409052033.25940.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094503730.4756.23.camel@athlon.localdomain> <200409070827.59243.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1094628524.4751.7.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Andy, On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 09:27, Andy Green wrote: > My title was wrong, uname was right: sorry for the confusion. I upgraded to > 541 and I did not yet see the problem again. So the offending code has been removed? Can I safely upgrade to anything beyond 538? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From spam at tachegroup.com Wed Sep 8 07:28:56 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 03:28:56 -0400 Subject: Fear and Loathing my next Fedora update Message-ID: The other day I was happily singing the praises of Fedora. Everything, at least everything that I use, seems to work just fine. At least that was until I updated Yum, and was hosed. No biggie, since I was only updating Yum, and easily was able to backdate to the previous version. Then I said to myself, hmmm, maybe I should not be soooo cutting edge, getting every fix that is released. So I sat back and waited. Then I have was shocked to see the file corruption issue be introduced to the baseline at this late date, after 540+ builds. So my question is this ... Are the releases, patches, fixes, additions, and updates being tested properly before they are put into the tree, or are the developers releasing code that is semi-stable at best, with the hope that the user developer/community with be the initial test bed? From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Sep 8 07:59:22 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 08:59:22 +0100 Subject: 538 kenel -> filesystem errors In-Reply-To: <1094628524.4751.7.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <200409070827.59243.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094628524.4751.7.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <200409080859.26598.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 08 September 2004 08:28, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hello Andy, > > On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 09:27, Andy Green wrote: > > My title was wrong, uname was right: sorry for the confusion. I upgraded > > to 541 and I did not yet see the problem again. > > So the offending code has been removed? Can I safely upgrade to anything > beyond 538? 541 has not been showing the df problem here after a couple of days on a couple of machines: that doesn't prove the problem is gone, but I am going on with 541. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBPrvejKeDCxMJCTIRAhDDAKCW3luwz5Z/udSEDu06HdDKrW7aywCdG6eZ I3iOAUN390vxzBt79gTo8J8= =2gRj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From arjanv at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 08:24:32 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:24:32 +0200 Subject: 538 kenel -> filesystem errors In-Reply-To: <1094628524.4751.7.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <200409052033.25940.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094503730.4756.23.camel@athlon.localdomain> <200409070827.59243.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094628524.4751.7.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1094631872.2800.4.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 09:28, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hello Andy, > > On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 09:27, Andy Green wrote: > > My title was wrong, uname was right: sorry for the confusion. 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From mark.bradbury at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 14:17:14 2004 From: mark.bradbury at gmail.com (Mark Bradbury) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:47:14 +0930 Subject: X11 updates not happining Message-ID: Yum update has fails with Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree Resolving Dependencies Error: xorg-x11-font-utils conflicts: xorg-x11-base-fonts<= 6.7.99.903-3 curent versions on this machine are xorg-x11-base-fonts-6.7.99.903-2 xorg-x11-font-utils-6.7.99.903-2 From harald at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 10:26:39 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:26:39 +0200 Subject: X11 updates not happining In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <413EDE5F.6040005@redhat.com> try to call yum with --obsoletes Mark Bradbury wrote: > Yum update has fails with > > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree > Resolving Dependencies > Error: xorg-x11-font-utils conflicts: xorg-x11-base-fonts<= 6.7.99.903-3 > > > curent versions on this machine are > > xorg-x11-base-fonts-6.7.99.903-2 > xorg-x11-font-utils-6.7.99.903-2 > > From thomasz at hostmaster.org Wed Sep 8 11:17:40 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:17:40 +0200 Subject: Evolution Attachments - File Type Associations Message-ID: <1094642260.22220.5.camel@hostmaster.org> Where does Ximian Evolution get the information how to treat a specific attachment type and how do I modify this? I am getting voice messages as application/ogg attachments which I can only save to disk although both ogg123 and xmms are installed. Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key Because you are just paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to catch you! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sct at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 11:29:01 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 08 Sep 2004 12:29:01 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <20040908001156.GA3980@rednote.net> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040905192545.GA3541@rednote.net> <1094486681.2687.11.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <20040908001156.GA3980@rednote.net> Message-ID: <1094642941.1985.31.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 01:11, Janina Sajka wrote: > Well, not exactly. But maybe what I do have may prove useful. > Just in the last hour I've had a scarry experience. > > Situation: I noticed several dozen lynx cache files sitting in my $HOME. > Since I wasn't in lynx, I figured it OK to rm L* -- bad choice. I > froze.. > During the subsequent reboot the system froze during file system check. > > So, I try going single user -- never got a shell prompt. Froze during > /home check. > Got this from both 541 UP and 541 SMP ... Home-compiled? The kernel announces as "2.6.8-1.541.rootsmp" > general protection fault: 0000 [1] SMP > RDX: 0080000000000000 RSI: 0000000000000010 RDI: 0000000000000032 and > Unable to handle kernel paging request at 0000000000486680 RIP: ... > RDX: ffffffff80415168 RSI: 0000000000000001 RDI: 0080000000000000 > RBP: 0080000000000000 R08: ffffffff80415168 R09: 0000000100000000 The same nearly-zero-except-for-a-bit-flip pattern, 0080000000000000, in the register dumps in both cases. If you're getting GPFs and oopses in such core functions as kfree() and find_get_pages(), accompanied by a repeatable bit-flip patterns, it's most often a sign of hardware trouble: bad memory or an overheating CPU. Cheers, Stephen From sct at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 11:49:31 2004 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: 08 Sep 2004 12:49:31 +0100 Subject: last 541 kernel damages fileystem .. starting fresh FC3T2 candidate. In-Reply-To: <413D0A8E.2060104@sbcglobal.net> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <1094372385.7455.87.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <200409051023.40245.fedora@warmcat.com> <200409051436.17443.lsomike@futzin.com> <1094487087.2687.18.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <20040906163026.GI32028@redhat.com> <1094495204.2687.22.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <413D0A8E.2060104@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094644171.1985.36.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 02:10, Jim Cornette wrote: > I installed fresh and /dev/hda1 and hda2 were reformatted. The other > listed disks, like the sda disks were formatted during an fc3t1 install > attempt. The hdb1 and hdb2 contain FC2. The hda5 is the boot partition > from the corrupted installation, nothing was done with this partition > yet. For the hdb6 partition with all of the errors mkfs was ran on it > when booted up in FC2. OK, I'm getting confused about what this is supposed to show: hda5 isn't actually listed in the files you attached. hdb6 is, but the "df" all looks fine. > The attached pure.txt file is from the 541 before installing the 540 > downgraded kernel. The 540.dgrd.txt file is from rebooting into the > retro kernel. I don't see a difference from the listing for each version. No, because the problem is totally independent of what kernel you're running at the time --- it depends only on the state of the disk, and whether that was corrupted by some previous boot and has not yet been fscked. If you've got the block counts off, just rebooting into a different non-buggy kernel won't help at all. Cheers, Stephen From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Sep 8 12:55:21 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:55:21 -0500 Subject: Evolution address book Message-ID: <1094648122.12373.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Anyone having any problems accessing their address book with the latest updates in rawhide? I can seem to add but can't access it. evolution-data-server-0.0.99-1 evolution-1.5.94.1-1 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Sep 8 12:56:44 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:56:44 -0500 Subject: Evolution address book In-Reply-To: <1094648122.12373.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1094648122.12373.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1094648204.12373.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 07:55 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > Anyone having any problems accessing their address book with the latest > updates in rawhide? I can seem to add but can't access it. > > evolution-data-server-0.0.99-1 > evolution-1.5.94.1-1 Actually after doing another test, if I go to add someone, say from an address in an email, if I click on the full button, nothing comes up. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From lsomike at futzin.com Wed Sep 8 13:08:06 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 08:08:06 -0500 Subject: Fear and Loathing my next Fedora update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200409080808.06366.lsomike@futzin.com> On Wednesday 08 September 2004 02:28, TGS wrote: > So my question is this ... > > Are the releases, patches, fixes, additions, and updates being > tested properly before they are put into the tree, or are the > developers releasing code that is semi-stable at best, with the > hope that the user developer/community with be the initial test > bed? This may be useful ... http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/msg01798.html Regards, Mike Klinke From aoliva at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 13:50:35 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 08 Sep 2004 10:50:35 -0300 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <413ED9EF.5030900@redhat.com> References: <20040907163456.41495.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> <413E2A81.9040104@sbcglobal.net> <20040907224107.GA17190@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <413E40DD.1080107@sbcglobal.net> <413ED9EF.5030900@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Sep 8, 2004, Harald Hoyer wrote: > I think, this is because /dev is --bind mounted to the new sysroot > in initfs but not umounted. Why should it be umounted? Is the /dev created by initrd-started udev a perfectly legitimate /dev filesystem? Why should rc.sysinit repeat its creation, which I suspect to be the cause of the duplication? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From dcbw at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 13:54:58 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 09:54:58 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094595386.9399.10.camel@steelgoose.com> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094585580.9399.1.camel@steelgoose.com> <1094586915.15553.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1094595386.9399.10.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: <1094651698.6006.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 19:16 -0300, Alexandre Strube wrote: > I did a small test some days ago. Tried to separate my own language > (brazilian portuguese - red hat never provided a pt_BR openoffice, > altough it exists). Sorry for that, it was an oversight on my part and pt_BR should now be shipping in RHEL at least. Fedora update will follow soon. Dan From harald at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 13:55:04 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 15:55:04 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: References: <20040907163456.41495.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> <413E2A81.9040104@sbcglobal.net> <20040907224107.GA17190@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <413E40DD.1080107@sbcglobal.net> <413ED9EF.5030900@redhat.com> Message-ID: <413F0F38.9000401@redhat.com> Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Sep 8, 2004, Harald Hoyer wrote: > > >>I think, this is because /dev is --bind mounted to the new sysroot >>in initfs but not umounted. > > > Why should it be umounted? Is the /dev created by initrd-started udev > a perfectly legitimate /dev filesystem? Why should rc.sysinit repeat > its creation, which I suspect to be the cause of the duplication? > rc.sysinit should not repeat its creation!!! --move moves the mountpoint --bind duplicates the mountpoint... /dev is mounted twice (on /sysroot/dev and /initfs/dev) after mount --bind and I suggest umounting /initfs/dev , because this is most probably the cause of /proc/mounts showing /dev twice... From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 14:49:09 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:49:09 -0400 Subject: Evolution Attachments - File Type Associations In-Reply-To: <1094642260.22220.5.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <1094642260.22220.5.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <1094654949.21402.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 13:17 +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > Where does Ximian Evolution get the information how to treat a specific > attachment type and how do I modify this? I am getting voice messages as > application/ogg attachments which I can only save to disk although both > ogg123 and xmms are installed. It uses the gnome-vfs2 package. You should be able to see mime-type associations by rightclicking on a saved ogg file in Nautilus, selecting Properties, and looking at the "Open With" tab. If there are any obviously missing applications from the list, please report them in bugzilla. Unfortunately there's a bug in gnome-vfs2 at the moment which means that inline viewing of a lot of attachment types in Evolution is broken e.g. it tries to run AbiWord for viewing v-cards. Can't remember the bz number offhand; a fix is on its way. Dave From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed Sep 8 14:49:21 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:49:21 -0400 Subject: Evolution address book In-Reply-To: <1094648122.12373.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1094648122.12373.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1094654961.21402.75.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 07:55 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > Anyone having any problems accessing their address book with the latest > updates in rawhide? I can seem to add but can't access it. > > evolution-data-server-0.0.99-1 > evolution-1.5.94.1-1 Is this a local addressbook, or an LDAP addressbook? Works for me. From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Sep 8 11:22:15 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:22:15 +0200 Subject: 538 kenel -> filesystem errors In-Reply-To: <1094631872.2800.4.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <413A9936.2090208@sbcglobal.net> <200409052033.25940.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094503730.4756.23.camel@athlon.localdomain> <200409070827.59243.fedora@warmcat.com> <1094628524.4751.7.camel@athlon.localdomain> <1094631872.2800.4.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <1094642534.4751.6.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Arjan, On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 10:24, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > 538 is bad bad bad > the later kernels have that bug fixed at least. So after considering all the facts your reversal to 540 was redundant after all? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed Sep 8 16:56:55 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:56:55 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> References: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> Message-ID: <1094662615.7216.11.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 03:51 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > I finally installed the test candidate and found X not working, avc > errors, general features that I consider bothersome. With this messages, > I wanted to relay attached avc errors, xorg-x11 errors etc. I won't but > will files a bug report with the files soon. Tried FC3T2 candidate upgrade after "yum update" seriously broke my system along the lines discussed in several earlier threads. > As a general problem. I could not install using the GUI mode. My screen > would change to graphics mode, then hang. Same problem here. Also can't get network install to work. Seems to be the same problem as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131293 Have had to boot with "acpi=off" or "noacpi" on this machine (IBM A21p notebook) since FC1 to get Ethernet to work, but this does not help now. All kernels tried since 533 (538, 540, 541) fail as described in above Bugzilla. Last kernel to have working Ethernet on this hardware was 526, but that broke after last yum update, even after downgrading module-init-tools. After anaconda upgrade to FC3T2 candidate Ethernet was still non-functional and X froze > After installation, X has the > problem with the refreshing of the screen w/ the selected version of > xorg-x11. This is as described by another person using the 815 driver. > The screen has stripes from left to right, then some portions appear on > the screen. You have to hover a mouse over menu items in order to launch > anything. Also not all screen elements appear on applications that you > launch. After anaconda upgrade to FC3T2 candidate, Ethernet was still non- functional and X froze after attempting to start from runlevel 3. Tried a clean install with no better results - system freezes in RHGB, or when trying to start X from runlevel 3 on non-graphical boot. Falling back to FC3T1 for now. Phil From andy.grover at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 17:53:20 2004 From: andy.grover at gmail.com (Andrew Grover) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:53:20 -0700 Subject: FC3t2 via yum In-Reply-To: <1094373129.7455.103.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <1094299949.15913.56.camel@T7.linux> <1094373129.7455.103.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:32:09 +1000, Colin Charles wrote: > > I know when I reboot, my box is still claiming to be running FC2 and not > > 3t1 > > Really? /etc/fedora-release should have been updated to saying you're > running "Fedora Core release Rawhide (Rawhide)" I'm kinda confused how this works... getting /etc/fedora-release (and /etc/issue) updated required me to yum install fedora-release...now I have both fedora-release-2-4 and fedora-release-2-rawhide installed, but /etc/issue shows "rawhide" (good.) -- Andy From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 8 18:20:24 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:20:24 +0100 Subject: Any updates out there? Message-ID: <1094667624.1322.8.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Is it me or is it yum? I'm running yum update and am finding nothing in the rawhide branch. yum.conf [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=fedora-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development tree baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch baseurl=ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/development/$basearch baseurl=ftp://fedora.cs.utah.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch Nothing has shown since Friday. TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm running yum update and am finding nothing > in > the rawhide branch. > > yum.conf > > [main] > cachedir=/var/cache/yum > debuglevel=2 > logfile=/var/log/yum.log > pkgpolicy=newest > distroverpkg=fedora-release > tolerant=1 > exactarch=1 > > [development] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development tree > baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch > baseurl=ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/development/$basearch > baseurl=ftp://fedora.cs.utah.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch > baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch > > Nothing has shown since Friday. > > TTFN > > Paul Well, I see the following from my favorite mirror: Sep 7 05:11 rpmdb-fedora-2.91-0.20040907.i386.rpm Nothing else since Sep 3. The versions of some packages in FC3T2- candidate are newer, (e.g. kernel-2.6.8-1.541.i686.rpm vs kernel-2.6.8- 1.540.i686.rpm) but are not in rawhide. ??? Phil From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Wed Sep 8 18:58:43 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:58:43 +0300 Subject: Any updates out there? In-Reply-To: <1094667624.1322.8.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094667624.1322.8.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <200409082158.43347.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Paul kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika keskiviikko, 8. syyskuuta 2004 21:20): > Is it me or is it yum? I'm running yum update and am finding > nothing in the rawhide branch. According to the release schedule (http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/) there's a development freeze for test2 release. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 8 19:12:49 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:12:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Any updates out there? In-Reply-To: <1094669532.7216.33.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1094667624.1322.8.camel@T7.linux> <1094669532.7216.33.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 13:20 -0500, Paul wrote: > > > > Is it me or is it yum? I'm running yum update and am finding > > nothing in the rawhide branch. > Well, I see the following from my favorite mirror: > > Sep 7 05:11 rpmdb-fedora-2.91-0.20040907.i386.rpm > > Nothing else since Sep 3. The versions of some packages in FC3T2- > candidate are newer, (e.g. kernel-2.6.8-1.541.i686.rpm vs kernel-2.6.8- > 1.540.i686.rpm) but are not in rawhide. ??? Well, there were no updates for a while - but there were some today.. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg00324.html I guess yum metadata didn't get updated/regenerated... Satish From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Wed Sep 8 21:27:06 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <413F0F38.9000401@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040908212706.75711.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> >/dev is mounted twice (on /sysroot/dev and /initfs/dev) after mount --bind >and I suggest umounting /initfs/dev , because this is most probably the cause of >/proc/mounts showing /dev twice... I just got my system up to the newer MAKEDEV/udev/hal and I can confirm this problem and that /proc is also mounted twice (#1). And /dev is #2: [root at buildhost root]# cat /proc/mounts rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 1->/proc /proc proc rw,nodiratime 0 0 2->none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 /dev/root / ext3 rw 0 0 2->none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 none /selinux selinuxfs rw 0 0 1->/proc /proc proc rw,nodiratime 0 0 /proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 /sys /sys sysfs rw 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0 none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0 Its not just /dev... -Steve Grubb __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From thomasz at hostmaster.org Wed Sep 8 21:56:47 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:56:47 +0200 Subject: Evolution Attachments - File Type Associations In-Reply-To: <1094654949.21402.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1094642260.22220.5.camel@hostmaster.org> <1094654949.21402.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1094680607.17378.11.camel@hostmaster.org> On Mit, 2004-09-08 at 10:49 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > It uses the gnome-vfs2 package. Thanks, I had expected it to use good old .mailcap ;-) > You should be able to see mime-type associations by rightclicking on a > saved ogg file in Nautilus, selecting Properties, and looking at the > "Open With" tab. Is there no other way? I think I remember some "Control Center" applet to configure file/mime type associations but could not find it. > If there are any obviously missing applications from the list, please > report them in bugzilla. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132110 > Unfortunately there's a bug in gnome-vfs2 at the moment which means that > inline viewing of a lot of attachment types in Evolution is broken e.g. > it tries to run AbiWord for viewing v-cards. Can't remember the bz > number offhand; a fix is on its way. Doesn't that violate the Eolas patent? ;-) I'd rather see a mp3 player in Fedora again. Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key Attempting to apply the OSI layers model to a real network is just like attempting to represent seven dimensions in four dimensional reality. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 9 00:15:32 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:15:32 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <1094662615.7216.11.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> <1094662615.7216.11.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <413FA0A4.2030906@sbcglobal.net> Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 03:51 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>I finally installed the test candidate and found X not working, avc >>errors, general features that I consider bothersome. With this messages, >>I wanted to relay attached avc errors, xorg-x11 errors etc. I won't but >>will files a bug report with the files soon. > > > Tried FC3T2 candidate upgrade after "yum update" seriously broke my > system along the lines discussed in several earlier threads. > > >>As a general problem. I could not install using the GUI mode. My screen >>would change to graphics mode, then hang. > > > Same problem here. Also can't get network install to work. Seems to be > the same problem as > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131293 I have a toranado card, but this is a 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 74). This works fine with the latest kernels - kernel-2.6.8-1.541 and kernel-2.6.8-1.540. I am running with acpi=on specified in the grub.conf file. I get an inet address and everything. With the reealtech NIC, I get a hardware address, but no inet address. Realtech - alias eth0 ne2k-pci eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 52:54:05:E4:A4:39 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:15 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:2694 (2.6 KiB) TX bytes:1938 (1.8 KiB) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xdf80 The "Other" Tornado - alias eth1 3c59x eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:02:FA:69:F3 inet addr:192.168.1.103 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:302 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:261 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:254994 (249.0 KiB) TX bytes:27932 (27.2 KiB) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xdc00 Kernel line specifying acpi=on kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=LABEL=/1 acpi=on 3 initrd /initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img > > Have had to boot with "acpi=off" or "noacpi" on this machine (IBM A21p > notebook) since FC1 to get Ethernet to work, but this does not help now. > All kernels tried since 533 (538, 540, 541) fail as described in above > Bugzilla. Last kernel to have working Ethernet on this hardware was > 526, but that broke after last yum update, even after downgrading > module-init-tools. After anaconda upgrade to FC3T2 candidate Ethernet > was still non-functional and X froze > > >>After installation, X has the >>problem with the refreshing of the screen w/ the selected version of >>xorg-x11. This is as described by another person using the 815 driver. >>The screen has stripes from left to right, then some portions appear on >>the screen. You have to hover a mouse over menu items in order to launch >>anything. Also not all screen elements appear on applications that you >>launch. > > > After anaconda upgrade to FC3T2 candidate, Ethernet was still non- > functional and X froze after attempting to start from runlevel 3. Tried > a clean install with no better results - system freezes in RHGB, or when > trying to start X from runlevel 3 on non-graphical boot. >01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility >M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) > > Falling back to FC3T1 for now. Hopefully the FC3T2 discs can be improved from the feedback from testers of the release candidate. Good luck on the next attempt. The X failure, in general seems to be related to fonts for the server not being present. The trouble with the ATI Rage graphics card scares me. Did this happen w/ all of the kernels tried. I tried X on a computer running FC2 with one of the earlier CVS test versions and it worked better. I'm asking mainly because X was all that I upgraded (plus deps that were pulled in). This computer uses the radeon driver and is a laptop. Jim > > Phil > > > From spam at tachegroup.com Thu Sep 9 00:32:10 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:32:10 -0400 Subject: Fear and Loathing my next Fedora update In-Reply-To: <200409080808.06366.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: Yes, That was helpful, thanks! on 9/08/2004 9:08 AM, Mike Klinke at lsomike at futzin.com wrote: > On Wednesday 08 September 2004 02:28, TGS wrote: > >> So my question is this ... >> >> Are the releases, patches, fixes, additions, and updates being >> tested properly before they are put into the tree, or are the >> developers releasing code that is semi-stable at best, with the >> hope that the user developer/community with be the initial test >> bed? > > This may be useful ... > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/msg01798.html > > Regards, Mike Klinke > From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Sep 9 00:54:15 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:54:15 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <413FA0A4.2030906@sbcglobal.net> References: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> <1094662615.7216.11.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <413FA0A4.2030906@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040909005415.GA17379@wolves.durham.nc.us> On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:15:32PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Phil Schaffner wrote: > >Same problem here. Also can't get network install to work. Seems to be > >the same problem as > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131293 > > I have a toranado card, but this is a 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com > Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 74). > > This works fine with the latest kernels - kernel-2.6.8-1.541 and > kernel-2.6.8-1.540. I am running with acpi=on specified in the grub.conf > file. I get an inet address and everything. With the reealtech NIC, I > get a hardware address, but no inet address. > > Realtech - alias eth0 ne2k-pci > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 52:54:05:E4:A4:39 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:15 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:2694 (2.6 KiB) TX bytes:1938 (1.8 KiB) > Interrupt:10 Base address:0xdf80 > > The "Other" Tornado - alias eth1 3c59x > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:02:FA:69:F3 > inet addr:192.168.1.103 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:302 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:261 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:254994 (249.0 KiB) TX bytes:27932 (27.2 KiB) > Interrupt:11 Base address:0xdc00 > > Kernel line specifying acpi=on > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=LABEL=/1 acpi=on 3 > initrd /initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img This eth0 not getting an IP address is bugzilla #132038 -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 9 01:58:07 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:58:07 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <20040909005415.GA17379@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> <1094662615.7216.11.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <413FA0A4.2030906@sbcglobal.net> <20040909005415.GA17379@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <413FB8AF.3080409@sbcglobal.net> Gregory Woodbury wrote: > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:15:32PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > This eth0 not getting an IP address is bugzilla #132038 > Thanks for the information. This sounds like what could have caused Phil's network connection problem. (All is well, except no inet address issued or recognized, trivial, but important!) I added to the bug report. I was tempted to boot to runlevel 1 and try the suggested steps, I didn't though! Jim From sopwith at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 02:08:11 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:08:11 -0400 Subject: Another FC3test2 candidate tree Message-ID: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> The previous bug reports on the re0903.0 tree were very helpful - here's another one to chew on: http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0908.0/ (As before, I just started syncing it, so it will be a while. Please make sure that any .iso's you download are dated today 2004-09-08 - the old ones in place there are from yesterday and are known-broken.) Please see how it installs/runs if you get a chance. -- Elliot From mail4wal at yahoo.com Thu Sep 9 02:29:03 2004 From: mail4wal at yahoo.com (Wal) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: iptables SECURITY - default settings Message-ID: <20040909022903.95136.qmail@web41702.mail.yahoo.com> Is it possible to have the Fedora Core default, out-of-the-box iptables settings be more like the following? RelatedComponent- system-config-securitylevel File- /etc/sysconfig/iptables # generated by ____ # *filter :INPUT DROP [0:0] :FORWARD DROP [0:0] :OUTPUT DROP [0:0] :SecLev505-INPUT - [0:0] -I SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP -I SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT -I SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT -I SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -I SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -s 0/0 --syn -j DROP -I SecLev505-INPUT -i lo -s 0/0 -j ACCEPT -I INPUT -j SecLev505-INPUT :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] COMMIT __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 9 02:16:45 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:16:45 -0400 Subject: Another FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> References: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> Message-ID: <413FBD0D.1080003@sbcglobal.net> Elliot Lee wrote: > The previous bug reports on the re0903.0 tree were very helpful - here's > another one to chew on: > > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0908.0/ > > (As before, I just started syncing it, so it will be a while. Please > make sure that any .iso's you download are dated today 2004-09-08 - the > old ones in place there are from yesterday and are known-broken.) > > Please see how it installs/runs if you get a chance. > -- Elliot > > I'll go for it! One question though, is the vesa driver used during the installation process? The reason being the refresh problem that I am having with the i810 driver. I can get past this problem post-install. Otherwise, a GUI installation would be quite a challenge. Thanks! Jim From cra at WPI.EDU Thu Sep 9 05:23:49 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 01:23:49 -0400 Subject: Another FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> References: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040909052349.GD27565@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:08:11PM -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > The previous bug reports on the re0903.0 tree were very helpful - > here's another one to chew on: > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0908.0/ I tried a fresh install on an IBM ThinkPad T42p with the 1600x1200 15" LCD and 128MB ATI FireGL Mobility T2 graphics card. Install went better this time around. Graphical installer worked. I did a Custom install from CD's, Manual partition, formatting all system partitions from my previous install. A few points: 1. In rc0903, bootup hung on firstboot. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace was needed to continue bootup, skipping firstboot. Now in rc0908, bootup continues right past firstboot. I assume firstboot failed to run, but at least it didn't hang this time. The rhgb graphics displayed, followed by what looked like the X server reinitializing and the screen clearing to black. Then the X server was reinitialized again, and GDM appeared. /var/log/boot.log says: "firstboot: failed". 2. Possibly due to the above, switching from graphical login on VT7 to the text consoles on VT1-VT6 displayed blank text screens with a blinking cursor. The cursor moved with keyboard input. Mingetty was actually running, so I was able to login blind. After logging in as root, the text screen was "reset" somehow (by an /etc/profile script?), and all the previous and current text appeared... 3. dmesg says "kernel: radeonfb: Non-DDC laptop panel detected", but then says "kernel: radeonfb: detected LVDS panel size from BIOS: 1600x1200". However, xorg-x11 always starts in 800x600. Perhaps firstboot would offer the correct default resolution of 1600x1200 if it had worked? This is easily remedied by using System Settings->Display after logging in, changing Monitor Type from "Unknown monitor" to "Generic LCD Display / LCD Panel 1600x1200", and selecting Resolution: 1600x1200, and re-logging in. 4. Double-clicking the battery applet gives an error dialog: "The Suspend command '/usr/bin/apm -s' was unsuccessful." 5. I see xcdroast was replaced by k3b in the menu. This is good, because re0903's xcdroast didn't work (it spewed some error about /dev/sg* not found). I also found xcdroast hard to use (this was my first time seeing it). However, why is k3b in "Sound & Video" and not "System Tools" or perhaps "Accessories"? It seems silly that k3b would be considered solely a Sound or Video application... Once I found k3b, I was impressed with its ease of use and proper functioning. I erased a CD-RW and burned an ISO image with no trouble or configuration required. Good work so far--FC3 is going to be an exciting release. I'll find/file bugs for these issues soon... From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Sep 9 07:58:41 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:58:41 +0100 Subject: Schema problem or something else Message-ID: <1094716721.10724.7.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, Post the big upgrades of last week (Thur + Fri), I seem to have "developed" a number of very small but very annoying problems and am wondering if a schema or two has been chewed. The first is that all of the icons on the redhat menu have vanished. The second is that I have a logout widget on the panel bar. Normally, this gives the choice of three other ways. It currently just instantly logs out. Under the current kernel, I still have to be in as su to use k3b/ xcdroast etc. I thought that had been fixed Other than that, everything seems happy. Why do I think it's a schema related problem? Simple, gconf-editor dies - alright, it could be at best an indication of a problem and at worst, a totally different problem. Any help on these would be appreciated. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You are dropping everything in the first place??? > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s > --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s > --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m state --state > ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -s 0/0 --syn -j DROP > -I SecLev505-INPUT -i lo -s 0/0 -j ACCEPT > -I INPUT -j SecLev505-INPUT > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > COMMIT > > From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 9 10:48:09 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 05:48:09 -0500 Subject: truncated cmdline Message-ID: My setup: *-- Software: Linux kernel 2.6.8-1.538 Architecture i686 Fedora Core release 2.90 (FC3 Test 1) Hardware: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz cpu MHz : 1994.464 *-- Running only partially updated, I have a problem where when using xterm or konsole terminals in X I see the cmdline reformated as I type by the insertion of newline. It can happen at way to early a stage, like after only 8 char are typed. I remember this coming up here some time ago and I think whatever pkg was responsible was updated. But I don't want to run a full update just now on this particular machine. Wondering if anyone recognizes the problem and knows which pkg is responsible for it? From prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org Thu Sep 9 11:05:12 2004 From: prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org (Aaron Gaudio) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 07:05:12 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 18:21 -0700, Scott Talbot wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 09:01 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > > While test installing FC3-re0903.0-i386, I noticed that > > openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.2-3.i386.rpm is 125MB on CD-ROM > > or 790MB on disk, which is about 1/4 of the total 3007MB > > disk space required for a Workstation install. Thus it is > > the leading option to delete in order to conserve space > > using a custom install. Supposedly US English still works > > without this package. (And it would be nice if there were > > an option to select just a few of the dozens of languages > > included in i18n.) > Has anyone tried deleting the openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.2-3 rpm? I would > expect that it would not be updated anymore as it's not on the system. > Unfortunately this would only work for US-Eng users, but I'd bet it > wouldn't be too hard to make rpm's or even tarballs of the other > languages. Maybe someone could talk livna or Dag into putting them on > their servers? Even better OOorg themselves could be made to see the > light? I have deleted the openoffice.org-i18n package from my laptop, and yes English appears to work fine. IMO, the correct way to handle the openoffice.org-i18n package is to properly identify each language within the rpm spec file, so that one can use the %_install_langs rpm macro (in ~/.rpmmacros, for instance) to limit exactly which languages get installed, without having to break each language into a separate rpm file. For instance, setting the macro to just "en:C" will only install files for the en and C locales (and sub-locales such as "en_GB"). This works to limit, for example, the locale files installed by glibc-common. -- Aaron Gaudio From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Thu Sep 9 11:51:26 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:51:26 -0300 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1094730686.28727.1.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Qui, 2004-09-09 ?s 08:05, Aaron Gaudio escreveu: > IMO, the correct way to handle the openoffice.org-i18n package is to > properly identify each language within the rpm spec file, so that one > can use the %_install_langs rpm macro (in ~/.rpmmacros, for instance) to > limit exactly which languages get installed, without having to break > each language into a separate rpm file. For instance, setting the macro > to just "en:C" will only install files for the en and C locales (and > sub-locales such as "en_GB"). This works to limit, for example, the > locale files installed by glibc-common. Which still leads to a 160mb upgrade (only for languages) each time someone updates fedora's openoffice. Nice, huh? I don't want to know how much does it cost to keep all this bandwidth :-) -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 19:08:23 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:08:23 -0400 Subject: Any updates out there? In-Reply-To: <1094667624.1322.8.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094667624.1322.8.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <604aa7910409081208346528f5@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:20:24 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Is it me or is it yum? I'm running yum update and am finding nothing in > the rawhide branch. Please, before asking people to confirm on the list. Take a moment and actually look on the development mirror you are pointing to and visually inspect via a web browser or ftp client that there are no updates on the mirror. And then visually inspect the master download server to see if there are new packages. Its not difficult to generate a directory listing off an http or ftp server and compare timestamps. You can also visually inspect the time stamps for the repository metadata files on the master server and mirrors you are using to see if the time stamp is "new". Things happen, the build process doesn't always complete in a timely manner, and there are funny things like US holidays that get in the way of manpower scheduling. If you think there should be updates available first thing you can do, is go to the master server yourself and get a directory listing and check timestamps. Also note that a summary report of the daily rawhide building is generated an placed into -devel-list. Until you read the summary report in the -devel-list its premature to think its a yum problem. -jef"antisocial but efficient"spaleta From alan at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 11:58:12 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:58:12 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 07:05:12AM -0400, Aaron Gaudio wrote: > IMO, the correct way to handle the openoffice.org-i18n package is to > properly identify each language within the rpm spec file, so that one > can use the %_install_langs rpm macro (in ~/.rpmmacros, for instance) to There is also a dependancy tree because of the way OOo wants to do fallbacks. I'd still like to see things split up (so I just need en_GB/cy_GB) but I'm not sure its quite so simple as the KDE one. From jorton at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 12:02:53 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:02:53 +0100 Subject: Another FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> References: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040909120252.GA2801@redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:08:11PM -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > The previous bug reports on the re0903.0 tree were very helpful - > here's another one to chew on: > > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0908.0/ This is still broken out-of-the-box for me since network interfaces are not getting addresses. Mmmmm... OK, they are getting addresses but NetworkManager is taking them away. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132156 From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Thu Sep 9 12:07:57 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 09:07:57 -0300 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Qui, 2004-09-09 ?s 08:58, Alan Cox escreveu: > There is also a dependancy tree because of the way OOo wants to do fallbacks. > I'd still like to see things split up (so I just need en_GB/cy_GB) but I'm > not sure its quite so simple as the KDE one. For what reason? -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From dcbw at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 12:33:34 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: Hi, Ok, the decision on splitting up the OOo i18n package is that it will not make Fedora Core 3 but will most likely land right after that. Dan On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Qui, 2004-09-09 ?s 08:58, Alan Cox escreveu: > > > There is also a dependancy tree because of the way OOo wants to do fallbacks. > > I'd still like to see things split up (so I just need en_GB/cy_GB) but I'm > > not sure its quite so simple as the KDE one. > > For what reason? > > -- > []s > > Alexandre Ganso > 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From linux at stefanrotsch.de Thu Sep 9 12:44:45 2004 From: linux at stefanrotsch.de (Stefan Rotsch) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:44:45 +0200 Subject: yum update fails due to missing repomd.xml files Message-ID: <1094733885.3442.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, this is the first time I'm trying to update my system after the yum metadata changes. I downloaded and installed yum 2.1.3, but running "yum update" fails: --- # yum -d 9 update Yum Version: 2.1.3 COMMAND: yum -d 9 update Installroot: / Setting up Update Process Reading Local RPMDB Setting up Repo: development Baseurl(s) for repo: ['http://download.atrpms.net/mirrors/fedoracore/development/i386/', 'http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/development/i386/'] repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: development failure: repodata/repomd.xml from development: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. --- I've also checked download.fedora.redhat.com, which doesn't seem to have a "repodata" directory. What am I missing to get my system updated? Any help would be appreciated! Regards, Stefan From lsomike at futzin.com Thu Sep 9 12:49:09 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:49:09 -0500 Subject: truncated cmdline In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200409090749.09701.lsomike@futzin.com> On Thursday 09 September 2004 05:48, Harry Putnam wrote: > My setup: > *-- > Software: > Linux kernel 2.6.8-1.538 Architecture i686 I'd strongly suggest you reboot into a different kernel since .538 is now known to cause file system problems and I'm sure you'll have to fix your current file system too. So far, I've not seen these problems with the .541 kernel. Regards, Mike Klinke From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Sep 9 12:40:22 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:40:22 +0100 Subject: Any updates out there? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910409081208346528f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1094667624.1322.8.camel@T7.linux> <604aa7910409081208346528f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1094733622.10724.29.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, > > Is it me or is it yum? I'm running yum update and am finding nothing in > > the rawhide branch. > > Please, before asking people to confirm on the list. Take a moment and > actually look > on the development mirror you are pointing to and visually inspect via > a web browser or ftp client that there are no updates on the mirror. I had the -devel list report and checked on ftp.fedora.redhat.com. Updates looked like being there TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can seem to add but can't access it. > > > > evolution-data-server-0.0.99-1 > > evolution-1.5.94.1-1 > > Is this a local addressbook, or an LDAP addressbook? local Gonna try a fresh/new/existed *other* user and see what happens. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From cra at WPI.EDU Thu Sep 9 15:10:58 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:10:58 -0400 Subject: Another FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <20040909120252.GA2801@redhat.com> References: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> <20040909120252.GA2801@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040909151058.GE27565@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 01:02:53PM +0100, Joe Orton wrote: > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:08:11PM -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > > The previous bug reports on the re0903.0 tree were very helpful - > > here's another one to chew on: > > > > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0908.0/ > > This is still broken out-of-the-box for me since network interfaces are > not getting addresses. Mmmmm... OK, they are getting addresses but > NetworkManager is taking them away. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132156 I'm seeing something similar. I get an IP address on bootup, and this works for "awhile". Then I lose connectivity. I noticed that dhclient was trying to renew with a unicast request directly to my dhcp server's IP address, but since there was no IP configured on the eth0 interface, it was failing. The NetworkManager service had died, leaving a stale /var/lock/subsys/ file around. Restarting the NetworkManager service fixed it. From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Thu Sep 9 15:30:32 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:30:32 +0200 Subject: iptables SECURITY - default settings In-Reply-To: <20040909022903.95136.qmail@web41702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040909022903.95136.qmail@web41702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1094743832.3881.1209.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Am Do, den 09.09.2004 schrieb Wal um 4:29: > Is it possible to have the Fedora Core > default, out-of-the-box iptables settings > be more like the following? > > RelatedComponent- system-config-securitylevel > File- /etc/sysconfig/iptables > > # generated by ____ > # > *filter > :INPUT DROP [0:0] > :FORWARD DROP [0:0] > :OUTPUT DROP [0:0] <-- this or the last but one line? this would be nonsense in my eyes > :SecLev505-INPUT - [0:0] Any good reason why you use -I (=insert) so that all rules have to be read from bottom to top? As iptables works through the rules from top to bottom such reading from a config file is other than that. > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP Having a DROP policy this is redundant. And I would not like a default DROPing. If something like that, then a REJECT rule (policy can't be set to REJECT). > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s > --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s > --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT DNS uses not only UDP but TCP too. 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Hm, maybe RFE for anaconda? Opinions? Michal From notting at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 16:50:24 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 12:50:24 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: <20040909165024.GC13475@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Dan Williams (dcbw at redhat.com) said: > Ok, the decision on splitting up the OOo i18n package is that it will not > make Fedora Core 3 but will most likely land right after that. Argh, split i18n is a *pain*. Obviously, you just need smaller translations. Bill From prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org Thu Sep 9 16:55:32 2004 From: prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org (Aaron Gaudio) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:55:32 -0400 Subject: Missing xeyes :( Message-ID: <1094748932.28881.10.camel@rockhopper> I have xorg-x11-tools-6.7.99.903-6, which no longer includes xeyes. I see in the changelog that someone felt it didn't belong in the xorg-x11 packages (though xlogo apparently still does, for some reason). Anyway, I use xeyes sometimes as a convenient, if bandwidth intensive, way of keeping a ssh connection alive through a touchy http proxy (no, the ssh keepalive doesn't work). I also use it to catch unsuspecting users who only know how to use 'xhost +' :) Is xeyes available in some other package? From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Thu Sep 9 17:02:09 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:02:09 -0300 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <20040909165024.GC13475@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> <20040909165024.GC13475@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094749329.987.21.camel@preview> Em Qui, 2004-09-09 ?s 13:50, Bill Nottingham escreveu: > > Ok, the decision on splitting up the OOo i18n package is that it will not > > make Fedora Core 3 but will most likely land right after that. > Argh, split i18n is a *pain*. Yes, and downloading every translation possible at each update is another pain. Let a single package to be revised for each translation group maintainer is a pain also. > Obviously, you just need smaller translations. What do you mean? Excluding help, for instance, is a option? Didn't get what you mean with smaller. From martin at lnuxpwrd.net Thu Sep 9 16:58:14 2004 From: martin at lnuxpwrd.net (Martin) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:58:14 -0500 Subject: Another FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> References: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094749094.3749.1.camel@laptop> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 21:08, Elliot Lee wrote: > The previous bug reports on the re0903.0 tree were very helpful - > here's another one to chew on: > > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0908.0/ > > (As before, I just started syncing it, so it will be a while. Please > make sure that any .iso's you download are dated today 2004-09-08 - the > old ones in place there are from yesterday and are known-broken.) > > Please see how it installs/runs if you get a chance. > -- Elliot > has anyone mirrored this to any rsync'able location? Thanks, Marty From notting at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 17:05:04 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:05:04 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094749329.987.21.camel@preview> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> <20040909165024.GC13475@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1094749329.987.21.camel@preview> Message-ID: <20040909170504.GA14394@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Alexandre Strube (surak at casa.surak.eti.br) said: > > > Ok, the decision on splitting up the OOo i18n package is that it will not > > > make Fedora Core 3 but will most likely land right after that. > > Argh, split i18n is a *pain*. > > Yes, and downloading every translation possible at each update is another pain. > Let a single package to be revised for each translation group maintainer is a pain also. Upstream, are they separate or together? > > Obviously, you just need smaller translations. > > What do you mean? Excluding help, for instance, is a option? Didn't get > what you mean with smaller. OK, so I missed the tag. :) Bill From sopwith at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 17:40:02 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora Core 3 test 2 schedule change Message-ID: Hi all, The plan is changing a bit and the intention right now is to release FC3test2 to the public on September 20. There are too many niggling issues remaining in the test2 candidate trees. firstboot still isn't quite there, and hardware detection & X seem to have a few issues. Please continue to look at http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0908.0/ and find other problems that must be fixed for the test release. Issues that must be fixed generally are ones that prevent most users from installing & setting up a running system, or bad app crashes. Please use http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/ to report issues so the developers can keep things straight. :) Best, -- Elliot It doesn't matter what temperature the room is. It's always room-temperature. From kimmo.koivisto at surfeu.fi Thu Sep 9 17:19:00 2004 From: kimmo.koivisto at surfeu.fi (Kimmo Koivisto) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:19:00 +0300 Subject: yum update fails due to missing repomd.xml files In-Reply-To: <1094733885.3442.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1094733885.3442.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200409092019.00972.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> On Thursday 09 September 2004 15:44, Stefan Rotsch wrote: > Hi, > > this is the first time I'm trying to update my system after the yum > metadata changes. I downloaded and installed yum 2.1.3, but running "yum > update" fails: > > I've also checked download.fedora.redhat.com, which doesn't seem to have > a "repodata" directory. > > What am I missing to get my system updated? Any help would be > appreciated! I don't know any other way that remove new yum and install older version (I don't know much about this so this might be the wrong way to do this). I guess many yum repositories generate only headers with yum-arch, not metadata with createrepo because admins don't know about it. I have the same problem because my yum repository runs with debian (yum-arch 1.x) and I was not able to get createrepo working with debian. Regards Kimmo Koivisto From dcbw at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 18:21:52 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:21:52 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <20040909170504.GA14394@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> <20040909165024.GC13475@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1094749329.987.21.camel@preview> <20040909170504.GA14394@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094754112.10039.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:05 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Alexandre Strube (surak at casa.surak.eti.br) said: > > > > Ok, the decision on splitting up the OOo i18n package is that it will not > > > > make Fedora Core 3 but will most likely land right after that. > > > Argh, split i18n is a *pain*. > > > > Yes, and downloading every translation possible at each update is another pain. > > Let a single package to be revised for each translation group maintainer is a pain also. > > Upstream, are they separate or together? Your pick, you can specify which langauges to build at build-time. I believe that the authoritative "Sun" builds are per-language, so there are English installers, Czech installers, German installers, etc. The various language projects contribute localized installers with just their language. Obviously, we don't want to have completely separate OOo packages for each language like upstream does. Dan From notting at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 18:27:45 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 14:27:45 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094754112.10039.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> <20040909165024.GC13475@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1094749329.987.21.camel@preview> <20040909170504.GA14394@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1094754112.10039.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040909182744.GA15055@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Dan Williams (dcbw at redhat.com) said: > > Upstream, are they separate or together? > > Your pick, you can specify which langauges to build at build-time. Actually, I meant source-wise, but, from what you're saying, they're together upstream? The problem with separate ones is that there's a lot of extra meta-work around the OS to make sure that the right thing happens on install. Bill From dcbw at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 18:36:32 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:36:32 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <20040909182744.GA15055@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> <20040909165024.GC13475@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1094749329.987.21.camel@preview> <20040909170504.GA14394@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1094754112.10039.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <20040909182744.GA15055@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094754992.10039.8.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 14:27 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Actually, I meant source-wise, but, from what you're saying, > they're together upstream? Yes, they are all together in CVS. OOo does not use .po files. > The problem with separate ones is that there's a lot of extra meta-work > around the OS to make sure that the right thing happens on install. I've already talked to Jeremy about this, while he doesn't particularly like it he's agreed as long as I do the necessary stuff to the comps file when I add/delete OOo languages, since he doesn't want to have to do that. Dan From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 18:49:33 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:49:33 -0400 Subject: Evolution address book In-Reply-To: <1094739312.9522.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1094648122.12373.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1094654961.21402.75.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1094739312.9522.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1094755773.21402.122.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 09:15 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 10:49 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 07:55 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > Anyone having any problems accessing their address book with the latest > > > updates in rawhide? I can seem to add but can't access it. > > > > > > evolution-data-server-0.0.99-1 > > > evolution-1.5.94.1-1 > > > > Is this a local addressbook, or an LDAP addressbook? > > local > > Gonna try a fresh/new/existed *other* user and see what happens. Thanks - if the problem persists please Bugzilla it. From otaylor at redhat.com Thu Sep 9 18:54:48 2004 From: otaylor at redhat.com (Owen Taylor) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:54:48 -0400 Subject: FC2 pango-1.4.1-1 update candidate Message-ID: <1094756087.26678.220.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've just pushed an update to Pango-1.4.1 to 'testing' for Fedora Core 2. This includes a lot of bug fixes; I've appended the NEWS file for Pango-1.4.1 to this mail. The main reason for this update is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119041 This update should fix a lot of problems with font selection, especially for East Asian locales. Testing is, as always, appreciated. Thanks, Owen Overview of changes between 1.4.0 and 1.4.1 =========================================== * Win32 bug fixes [Tor Lillqvist, John Ehresman] * Thai rendering improvements including OpenType support [Theppitak Karoonboonyanan] * Fix common crash in Hangul shaper [Changwoo Ryu] * Fix various problems with language tag selection [Frederic Zhang] * Documentation improvements [Felipe Heidrich, Doug Quale] * Fix crash in line break code [Jeroen Zwartepoorte, Billy Biggs] * Build fixes [J. Ali Harlow, Noah Misch] * OpenType engine fixes [Kailash C. Chowksey, Sayamindu Dasgupta, Aamir Wali, Masatake YAMATO, Soheil Hassas Yeganeh] * Indic module bug fixes [Chris Blizzard, Rajkumar S, Taneem Ahmed, Jungshik Shin] * Misc bug fixes [Stanislav Brabec, Anders Carlsson, Behdad Esfahbod, Jody Goldberg, Theppitak, Sven Neumann, Manish Singh, Morten Welinder] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Mike Klinke From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu Sep 9 19:20:27 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:20:27 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 candidate In-Reply-To: <413FB8AF.3080409@sbcglobal.net> References: <1094457093.4479.38.camel@cornette-hda> <1094662615.7216.11.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <413FA0A4.2030906@sbcglobal.net> <20040909005415.GA17379@wolves.durham.nc.us> <413FB8AF.3080409@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094757627.31390.122.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 21:58 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:15:32PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > This eth0 not getting an IP address is bugzilla #132038 > > > > Thanks for the information. This sounds like what could have caused > Phil's network connection problem. (All is well, except no inet address > issued or recognized, trivial, but important!) Don't think that's my problem. See #131293 for details, but seems more like a driver-level problem. Errors are continuously generated starting during boot, as soon as eth0 (3Com Corporation 3c556B) is activated: eth0: transmit timed out, tx_status ff status ffff. diagnostics: net ffff media ffff dma ffffffff fifo ffff eth0: Transmitter encountered 16 collisions -- network cable problem? eth0: Interrupt posted but not delivered -- IRQ blocked by another device? Flags; bus-master 1, dirty 0(0) current 16(0) Transmit list ffffffff vs. 118b8200. ... lots more suppressed ... Encountered similar problems with FC2 (kernel-2.6.6-1.427 and later) which could be worked around by booting with acpi=off - that no longer helps with kernels 533...541. Phil From mattdm at mattdm.org Thu Sep 9 20:28:16 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:28:16 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice i18n is 790MB on disk In-Reply-To: <1094749329.987.21.camel@preview> References: <413C89BC.3080601@BitWagon.com> <1094606486.24866.15.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1094727912.24528.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040909115812.GE600@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094731677.28727.5.camel@steelgoose.com> <20040909165024.GC13475@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1094749329.987.21.camel@preview> Message-ID: <20040909202816.GA17951@jadzia.bu.edu> On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 02:02:09PM -0300, Alexandre Strube wrote: > > Obviously, you just need smaller translations. > What do you mean? Excluding help, for instance, is a option? Didn't get > what you mean with smaller. I think he means it should only be translated into small languages. French, for example, only has 50,000 or so words, and so compresses very well. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From mail4wal at yahoo.com Thu Sep 9 21:04:09 2004 From: mail4wal at yahoo.com (Wal) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 14:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: iptables SECURITY - default settings Message-ID: <20040909210409.36064.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> I am suggesting a more secure default setting- # generated by ____ # *filter :INPUT DROP [0:0] :FORWARD DROP [0:0] :OUTPUT DROP [0:0] :SecLev505-INPUT - [0:0] -I SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP -I SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT -I SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT -I SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -I SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -s 0/0 --syn -j DROP -I SecLev505-INPUT -i lo -s 0/0 -j ACCEPT -I INPUT -j SecLev505-INPUT :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] COMMIT Alternately (with possible issue when rules actually get applied)- # generated by ____ # *filter :INPUT DROP [0:0] :FORWARD DROP [0:0] :OUTPUT DROP [0:0] :SecLev505-INPUT - [0:0] -A SecLev505-INPUT -i lo -s 0/0 -j ACCEPT -A SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -s 0/0 --syn -j DROP -A SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT -A SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT -A SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP -A INPUT -j SecLev505-INPUT :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] COMMIT How you get the rules assigned, by adding or by inserting, is personal (artist) preference. If, however, the rules were ever added to an active chain, there might be a period of time where undesired access would exist until the "tigher" rule were applied. Applying the tightest firsts, lends itself to INSERTing other rules. I like to start with the more secure settings and INSERT rules. Besides, when I need to open access to a trusted system, I use- iptables -I INPUT -s x.x.x.x -j ACCEPT For most users, DROPing undesired hits is preferable. If you need to be seen, I suggest INSERTing a rule before the "catch-all" DROP rule and be more specific - like use REJECT for a 10.0.0.0/8 or for a specific protocol. DNS typically only uses TCP for zone transfers, which should only be done with trusted systems. Most DNS usage is UDP based. Most users need only the UDP access. That part of the rules is done automagically when /etc/resolv.conf changes. I am running a DNS server for my internal lab, so I also use something like- -I SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s 192.168.8.0/24 --dport 53 -j ACCEPT Regarding- Having a DROP policy this is redundant. Yes, it is redundant. When implementing security, sometimes redundancy is a good thing. A good example of this is the access lists on Cisco routers. If you have an access list applied to an interface, the default behavior (that is, after going thru the list) is to drop packets. If you do not have a list, the default is to allow all. There was a time when (due to a bug) the access list setting did allow packets through (if no specified rules blocked them). Having the last rule in the access list be any,any,deny would have proven valuable. Use of the 505 is intended to imply you can have other chains / rulesets which are more or less secure, with other access requirements. For those not familiar with iptables, this might help. Since I worked with a certain firewall product, I actually had to do a double-take with the name used. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool From ksnider at flarn.com Thu Sep 9 21:25:31 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:25:31 -0400 Subject: iptables SECURITY - default settings In-Reply-To: <20040909210409.36064.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040909210409.36064.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4140CA4B.6090104@flarn.com> Wal wrote: > I am suggesting a more secure default setting- > # generated by ____ > # > *filter > :INPUT DROP [0:0] > :FORWARD DROP [0:0] > :OUTPUT DROP [0:0] > :SecLev505-INPUT - [0:0] > -A SecLev505-INPUT -i lo -s 0/0 -j ACCEPT > -A SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -s 0/0 --syn -j DROP > -A SecLev505-INPUT -p tcp -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > -A SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT > -A SecLev505-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s --sport 53 --dport 1025:65535 -j ACCEPT > -A SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP > -A INPUT -j SecLev505-INPUT > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > COMMIT I would think the vast majority of the planet would like, at minimum, ssh to be accessible after an install, on any but the most basic of desktops. also, you've cut off any other form of UDP traffic there is, this could impact media streaming, NFS, SMB, and a host of other perfectly legitimate traffic that originated at the box itself. This ruleset also doesn't allow *any* ICMP, including ICMP originating from the box (echo requests would get out, but the response would be dropped). Without ICMP related traffic, this box would never receive any sort of ICMP host/net unreachable messages, connection refused, etc, which would cause *all* connection that fail to have to wait for the TCP timeout to expire in order to notify the user there's any issue. At minimum, you need to accept established/related udp/icmp traffic inbound, and port 22 inbound as well. -- Ken Snider From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 9 21:34:24 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:34:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: anyone able to use APM? Message-ID: APM doesn't appear to work anymore on my Thinkpad 600E with the current rawhide kernel-2.6.8-1.541. Don't know when the breakage happened.. I have the following in the boot logs: # grep -i apm /var/log/messages Sep 9 16:04:19 localhost kernel: IBM machine detected. Enabling interrupts during APM calls. Sep 9 16:04:19 localhost kernel: apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac) Sep 9 16:04:19 localhost kernel: apm: driver version: No APM present Sep 9 16:04:19 localhost kernel: apm: get_event: No APM present Sep 9 16:04:22 localhost apmd[2515]: Version 3.0.2 (APM BIOS 1.2, Linux driver 1.16ac) Sep 9 16:04:22 localhost apmd: apmd startup succeeded Sep 9 16:04:23 localhost apmd[2515]: Charge: * * * (-1% unknown) Fn-F4 doesn't work - and 'apm -s' blanks the screen for a couple of seconds returns with the following meesage: apm: Input/Output error /var/log/messages gets: Sep 9 16:31:52 localhost apmd[2515]: User Suspend Sep 9 16:31:54 localhost kernel: apm: suspend: No APM present Sep 9 16:31:55 localhost kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:06.0 Sep 9 16:31:55 localhost kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:02.0 Sep 9 16:31:55 localhost kernel: IRQ routing conflict for 0000:00:06.0, have irq 9, want irq 11 Sep 9 16:31:55 localhost kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:01:00.0 Sep 9 16:31:55 localhost kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:01:00.0 Sep 9 16:31:55 localhost kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:02.0 Sep 9 16:31:55 localhost kernel: IRQ routing conflict for 0000:00:06.0, have irq 9, want irq 11 Sep 9 16:31:58 localhost kernel: Disabled Privacy Extensions on device 02359760(lo) Sep 9 16:31:58 localhost netfs: Mounting other filesystems: succeeded Sep 9 16:31:59 localhost netfs: Mounting other filesystems: succeeded Sep 9 16:32:00 localhost apmd[2515]: Normal Resume after 00:00:08 (-1% unknown) ??? power Anyone able to use APM? with the current rawhide ? Thanks, Satish From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Thu Sep 9 22:05:09 2004 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?DAVID=20BENTLEY?=) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 23:05:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: The MySQL question. Message-ID: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Will any version of MYSQL later than 3.23 be provided in the near future (i.e. CORE 3) From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 9 22:31:30 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 18:31:30 -0400 Subject: Another FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <1094749094.3749.1.camel@laptop> References: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> <1094749094.3749.1.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <4140D9C2.10603@sbcglobal.net> Martin wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 21:08, Elliot Lee wrote: > >>The previous bug reports on the re0903.0 tree were very helpful - >>here's another one to chew on: >> >>http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0908.0/ >> >>(As before, I just started syncing it, so it will be a while. Please >>make sure that any .iso's you download are dated today 2004-09-08 - the >>old ones in place there are from yesterday and are known-broken.) >> >>Please see how it installs/runs if you get a chance. >>-- Elliot Just picking up from completing an upgrade from FC2 to the second test release. Downloading the first 4 isos worked fine. I downloaded then onto a usb drive overnight. The problem came when trying to burn the CDs. Problem 1: Trying to burn the CDs from the first test candidate installation, using nautilus-cd-burner. I inserted a blank disc and got the burn:/// window up. I then closed it and using nautilus, I right clicked and tried to burn the iso to disk. I kept getting a dialog popup box asking me to insert a disk. I tried on both, the CD burner and on my DVD burner. I got the same results using both drives. Problem 2: I then tried using xcdroast to burn the CD. I ended up getting the attached error. (bombed-cd...) Solution 1: Using k3b, I was able to burn a boot.iso from the listed above directory. I then proceeded to install via hard disk. (IDE). ----------------- Next problem trying GUI installation. The screen froze at a blank screen. I could not switch to terminal and pressing ctl-sysreq-r did nothing. I then hard reset and entered linux text. The installation through text mode proceeded normally. --------------------- To my surprise, X worked when booted up from runlevel 3. There was no refresh problem as of yet. Also, on this upgrade, I don't have the one NIC not getting an inet address. Both interfaces have adresses after 5 minutes. I reference this for a distinction between an upgrade from FC2 being alright on my computer and the clean install not keeping an address on the eth0 interface for very long. I'm glad to have the interfaces up, no X refresh problem and gqview still available. I'll have to check the orphaned program count a little later. ------- About the idedisk and usbdisk mount icons on the desktop. I love this feature. I do wish that they could be customized with alias names. This would let the user know which volume is which. I think that you could customize them post install and take out the kudzu parameter post-install. Having the ability to customize the name of mounts asa normal user might be obtainable by adding some customizable .mountnamepref directory or file within each home directory. Overall, a great feature! I'll check for bugs related to the nautilus-cd-burner and xcdroast problems, after I test these programs on this upgraded system. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: bombed-cdrecord.out.txt URL: From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu Sep 9 21:05:16 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:05:16 -0400 Subject: Another FC3test2 candidate tree In-Reply-To: <20040909052349.GD27565@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <1A03C3EC-0205-11D9-8ED4-000D93565D78@redhat.com> <20040909052349.GD27565@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <1094763916.16601.16.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 01:23 -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:08:11PM -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > > The previous bug reports on the re0903.0 tree were very helpful - > > here's another one to chew on: > > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/FC3-re0908.0/ > > I tried a fresh install on an IBM ThinkPad T42p with the 1600x1200 15" > LCD and 128MB ATI FireGL Mobility T2 graphics card. > > Install went better this time around. Graphical installer worked. I > did a Custom install from CD's, Manual partition, formatting all > system partitions from my previous install. Fresh install on ThinkPad A21p (1600x1200 with ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x) at least started graphical install, unlike candidate-1, but then froze during openoffice.org-i18n installation as in BZ #124221 from FC2. Text-mode install completed, also custom install from CD's, manual partition, re-formatted existing partitions except M$ WinXP; however, eth0 problem (BZ #131293, thread "FC3T2 candidate") is still present. Not a surprise as it is still kernel 541 - but one can always hope. > A few points: > > 1. In rc0903, bootup hung on firstboot. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace was needed > to continue bootup, skipping firstboot. Now in rc0908, bootup > continues right past firstboot. I assume firstboot failed to run, but > at least it didn't hang this time. The rhgb graphics displayed, > followed by what looked like the X server reinitializing and the > screen clearing to black. Then the X server was reinitialized again, > and GDM appeared. /var/log/boot.log says: "firstboot: failed". Similar behavior here - no firstboot. > 2. Possibly due to the above, switching from graphical login on VT7 to > the text consoles on VT1-VT6 displayed blank text screens with a > blinking cursor. The cursor moved with keyboard input. Mingetty was > actually running, so I was able to login blind. After logging in as > root, the text screen was "reset" somehow (by an /etc/profile > script?), and all the previous and current text appeared... Something strange about the graphics as the text mode on the VCs is now gray-on-black rather than white-on-black, but did work after 1st login. > 3. dmesg says "kernel: radeonfb: Non-DDC laptop panel detected", but > then says "kernel: radeonfb: detected LVDS panel size from BIOS: > 1600x1200". However, xorg-x11 always starts in 800x600. Perhaps > firstboot would offer the correct default resolution of 1600x1200 if > it had worked? This is easily remedied by using System > Settings->Display after logging in, changing Monitor Type from > "Unknown monitor" to "Generic LCD Display / LCD Panel 1600x1200", and > selecting Resolution: 1600x1200, and re-logging in. Tried this approach, set display type and resolution, but logout never completed and attempt to change to a text console resulted in a slow fade to a white screen - again like BZ #124221. > 4. Double-clicking the battery applet gives an error dialog: > "The Suspend command '/usr/bin/apm -s' was unsuccessful." > > 5. I see xcdroast was replaced by k3b in the menu. This is good, > because re0903's xcdroast didn't work (it spewed some error about > /dev/sg* not found). I also found xcdroast hard to use (this was my > first time seeing it). > > However, why is k3b in "Sound & Video" and not "System Tools" or > perhaps "Accessories"? It seems silly that k3b would be considered > solely a Sound or Video application... Once I found k3b, I was > impressed with its ease of use and proper functioning. I erased a > CD-RW and burned an ISO image with no trouble or configuration > required. > > Good work so far--FC3 is going to be an exciting release. I'll > find/file bugs for these issues soon... Pretty much a show-stopper for me. No network, flaky graphics. Don't see anything new that's not been Bugzilla'd already. That's life in the fast lane. Going back to FC3T1 (or FC2, or maybe this is a good time to try WhiteBox on this box) to get the system working again for now. Phil From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Thu Sep 9 23:16:34 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 01:16:34 +0200 Subject: iptables SECURITY - default settings In-Reply-To: <41401540.8030706@redhat.com> References: <20040909022903.95136.qmail@web41702.mail.yahoo.com> <41401540.8030706@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040910011634.054910ef.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:33:04 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > Wal wrote: > > Is it possible to have the Fedora Core > > default, out-of-the-box iptables settings > > be more like the following? > > > > RelatedComponent- system-config-securitylevel > > File- /etc/sysconfig/iptables > > > > # generated by ____ > > # > > *filter > > :INPUT DROP [0:0] > > :FORWARD DROP [0:0] > > :OUTPUT DROP [0:0] > > :SecLev505-INPUT - [0:0] > > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP > > Huh?? You are dropping everything in the first place??? No, he's inserting the rules, so above one becomes the last one. ;) -- Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) - Linux 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 loadavg: 0.05 0.04 0.00 From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Thu Sep 9 23:30:14 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: devlabel-0.48.03-4 borked Message-ID: <20040909233014.44625.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I was running the latest rawhide devlabel and notice that my bootup now has shell script errors in /sbin/devlabel at line 144. Something about no left hand argument. I thought well OK, some quotes are needed in case /etc/sysconfig/devlabel.d/ignore_list is empty. Well, the file doesn't exist. It seems that the spec file makes the wrong directories: /etc/sysconfig/devalbel.d Will file in bugzilla...just wanted to give everyone a heads up that it seems broken. Renaming the directory might be a short term fix until a new package comes out. -Steve Grubb __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dravet at calumet.purdue.edu Fri Sep 10 00:07:30 2004 From: dravet at calumet.purdue.edu (Jason Dravet) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 19:07:30 -0500 Subject: NTFS module Message-ID: <200409100009.i8A09BC26405@nwi.calumet.purdue.edu> I am using the latest rawhide. There is no kernel source code in the rawhide directory. How can I get NTFS read access into my kernel? Before people jump on me and say download it from http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html, they are no longer maintaining the website. The last FC3 NTFS module they have posted is for 2.6.7-1.478. The kernel in rawhide is 2.6.8-1.451. I don't want to recompile my whole kernel just for ntfs support. I was able to just compile the NTFS module and load it myself. I changed the .config to include ntfs as a module, then I used the make modules SUBDIRS=fs/ntfs command and it compiled the module, I made a directory for the ko and copied it there, did a depmod -a and then I could mount my ntfs partition. The kernel changed from using SUBDIRS= to O= and this broke. So how can I compile just the NTFS module without recompiling the whole kernel? Thanks, Jason From byte at aeon.com.my Fri Sep 10 00:32:05 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:32:05 +1000 Subject: NTFS module In-Reply-To: <200409100009.i8A09BC26405@nwi.calumet.purdue.edu> References: <200409100009.i8A09BC26405@nwi.calumet.purdue.edu> Message-ID: <1094776325.4629.126.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 10:07, Jason Dravet wrote: > I am using the latest rawhide. There is no kernel source code in the > rawhide directory. How can I get NTFS read access into my kernel? Before > people jump on me and say download it from > http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html, they are no longer > maintaining the website. The last FC3 NTFS module they have posted is for > 2.6.7-1.478. The kernel in rawhide is 2.6.8-1.451. I don't want to > recompile my whole kernel just for ntfs support. You probably have to. I think the linux-ntfs people can't keep up with the rapid nature of Rawhide (in fact, Extras hardly build packages either) Best advice (and to keep sanest), get kernel-sourcecode, and recompile -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Thu Sep 9 21:34:29 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:34:29 +0200 Subject: iptables SECURITY - default settings In-Reply-To: <20040909210409.36064.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040909210409.36064.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1094765669.3881.1242.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Am Do, den 09.09.2004 schrieb Wal um 23:04: > I am suggesting a more secure default setting- > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP > Alternately (with possible issue when rules actually get applied)- > -A SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP I would heavily dislike a default DROP rule setup with iptables. There is a long discussion about DROP versus REJECT in the firewall forums, and I follow the arguments for REJECTing. One reason which affects users of Fedora: a DROP policy / default rule makes it much harder for anyone and especially less experienced users to down track problems cause by firewalling with no real gain on the other side. It is and stays a myth that DROPing pakets makes a system invisible for attackers (buzzword "stealth mode" in PFW products). For the majority of users a feedback in form of an ICMP port unreachable is most useful. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp Serendipity 23:22:47 up 10 days, 20:39, load average: 0.38, 0.42, 0.37 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri Sep 10 02:24:12 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:24:12 -0400 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 09 September 2004 18:05, DAVID BENTLEY wrote: >Will any version of MYSQL later than 3.23 be provided >in the near future (i.e. CORE 3) "Its dead Jim" This horse is dead David, please don't waste any more time beating on it, the subject has already generated 20+ megs worth of mail on this list alone. MySQL changed the license a wee bit, it now clashes with the GPL, so the new stuff isn't being considered free enough to distribute by any of the linux players with legal staff to advise them. MySQL, like XFree86, has rather effectively shot themselves in the foot, and we don't know if they can survive as a commercial item, apparently MySQL's long range intention. Besides, postgreSQL in its latest incarnation is pretty darned good. Give it a try. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.25% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri Sep 10 03:19:10 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:19:10 -0500 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040910031910.GC1568822@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Gene Heskett said: > MySQL changed the license a wee bit, it now clashes with the GPL, so > the new stuff isn't being considered free enough to distribute by any > of the linux players with legal staff to advise them. Bzzt - MySQL changed the _library_ license _to_ the GPL (the server was already under the GPL, while the library was under the LGPL). The problem with that is that some of the things that link against the library are under licenses that are not GPL compatible (like PHP), so with the newer versions of MySQL, you end up building something that can't be distributed. There has been talk of changing the MySQL client library license again, so that this would be resolved, but they haven't actually shipped any code under such a modified license (at least last time I looked). -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From mike at netlyncs.com Fri Sep 10 04:21:36 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:21:36 -0500 Subject: Evolution contacts errors Message-ID: <1094790097.13123.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Here is the Bug # for this problem. Errored on existing user or newly created user. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132236 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From michal at harddata.com Fri Sep 10 05:07:15 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 23:07:15 -0600 Subject: NTFS module In-Reply-To: <200409100009.i8A09BC26405@nwi.calumet.purdue.edu>; from dravet@calumet.purdue.edu on Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 07:07:30PM -0500 References: <200409100009.i8A09BC26405@nwi.calumet.purdue.edu> Message-ID: <20040909230715.A28089@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 07:07:30PM -0500, Jason Dravet wrote: > > I was able to just compile the NTFS module and load it myself. I changed > the .config to include ntfs as a module, then I used the make modules > SUBDIRS=fs/ntfs command and it compiled the module, I made a directory for > the ko and copied it there, did a depmod -a and then I could mount my ntfs > partition. The kernel changed from using SUBDIRS= to O= and this broke. What broke? 'SUBDIRS=' is still supported, although you can use 'M=' as well, and 'O=' means something else. Check Makefile on the top level. > So how can I compile just the NTFS module without recompiling the > whole kernel? The same as before. Make sure that EXTRAVERSION is set correctly for a kernel you want that module and do such manipulations on a copy of your source tree. Michal From lnxxprt at arcor.de Fri Sep 10 07:53:47 2004 From: lnxxprt at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:53:47 +0200 Subject: NTFS module In-Reply-To: <200409100009.i8A09BC26405@nwi.calumet.purdue.edu> References: <200409100009.i8A09BC26405@nwi.calumet.purdue.edu> Message-ID: <41415D8B.6060109@arcor.de> hi my way to get ntfs read support: copy the ntfs driver source dir from the kernel source, create a new makefile so that it can be built as an external module, stuff all that in a src rpm and built it for each new kernel release. you will have this special version of the ntfs driver for all your new kernels until you repeat the procedure from the beginning, of course. thats really painless. you can get the ntfs (.src|.i386).rpm from here: http://mekunet.homelinux.org/linux /ds Jason Dravet wrote: > I am using the latest rawhide. There is no kernel source code in the > rawhide directory. How can I get NTFS read access into my kernel? Before > people jump on me and say download it from > http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html, they are no longer > maintaining the website. The last FC3 NTFS module they have posted is for > 2.6.7-1.478. The kernel in rawhide is 2.6.8-1.451. I don't want to > recompile my whole kernel just for ntfs support. > > I was able to just compile the NTFS module and load it myself. I changed > the .config to include ntfs as a module, then I used the make modules > SUBDIRS=fs/ntfs command and it compiled the module, I made a directory for > the ko and copied it there, did a depmod -a and then I could mount my ntfs > partition. The kernel changed from using SUBDIRS= to O= and this broke. So > how can I compile just the NTFS module without recompiling the whole kernel? > > Thanks, > > Jason > > From TVarveris at wiley.com Fri Sep 10 08:35:31 2004 From: TVarveris at wiley.com (TVarveris at wiley.com) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 04:35:31 -0400 Subject: Terri Varveris/P&T/NewYork909/Wiley is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 09/09/2004 and will not return until 09/13/2004. I'll get back to you as soon as possible on Monday, Sept. 13th. Thanks. Terri From thomasz at hostmaster.org Fri Sep 10 09:18:14 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:18:14 +0200 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1094807894.17378.48.camel@hostmaster.org> This is a *very* frequently asked question on this list and there is already a bunch of bugzilla reports. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=108000 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=112856 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115640 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115653 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100517 Fedora has refused to ship any update since MySQL AB has changed their license to be either GPL with a FOSS exception for PHP and the like or commercial. This seems to be a personal issue for the Fedora steering committee and I hope they will see the light once this causes a fork. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=118195&cid=9987564 Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key Experience is what you get when you expected something else. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jorton at redhat.com Fri Sep 10 09:33:48 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:33:48 +0100 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094807894.17378.48.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1094807894.17378.48.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <20040910093348.GA5551@redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 11:18:14AM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > Fedora has refused to ship any update since MySQL AB has changed their > license to be either GPL with a FOSS exception for PHP and the like or > commercial. This seems to be a personal issue for the Fedora steering > committee and I hope they will see the light once this causes a fork. Please, there is no conspiracy, just developers trying to do the right thing. Our legal team reviewed the FLOSS exception and found some problems with it: they are working directly with MySQL to resolve this. joe From davidjs at netspace.net.au Fri Sep 10 10:14:35 2004 From: davidjs at netspace.net.au (david) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:14:35 +1000 Subject: stops on =?iso-8859-2?q?=B6etting?= up system =?iso-8859-1?q?clock=B4?= Message-ID: <1094811275.2888.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi all how do i get it to go past; setting up system clock its just sits there and wont continue to boot is there a way of getting it to stop checking for the time the network is up or at least other machines on this network including this one are working and that machine has been online so everything is configured, network wise any way so please how can i just turn of the synchronization of the time thanks david From thomasz at hostmaster.org Fri Sep 10 10:33:54 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:33:54 +0200 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <20040910031910.GC1568822@hiwaay.net> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20040910031910.GC1568822@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1094812434.17378.73.camel@hostmaster.org> On Don, 2004-09-09 at 22:19 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > The problem with that is that some of the things that link against the > library are under licenses that are not GPL compatible (like PHP), so > with the newer versions of MySQL, you end up building something that > can't be distributed. MySQL has been made aware of this problem and provided the FLOSS exception: http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html Not to mention that numerous other distributions already include MySQL-4: Rock Linux, Slackware, Debian, Gentoo,... Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From thomasz at hostmaster.org Fri Sep 10 10:24:15 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:24:15 +0200 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1094811855.17378.66.camel@hostmaster.org> On Don, 2004-09-09 at 22:24 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > MySQL changed the license a wee bit, it now clashes with the GPL, so > the new stuff isn't being considered free enough to distribute by any > of the linux players with legal staff to advise them. Nonsense, MySQL is licensed under the GPL. > Besides, postgreSQL in its > latest incarnation is pretty darned good. Where MySQL provides performance, reliability, standards conformance, and fine grained access control, PostgreSQL comes with dozens of useless non-standard data types, requires regular maintenance, fails to use the index for a simple MAX(), and needs a complete dump/restore for almost every upgrade. Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key Prohibiting cryptography to prevent terrorism is as meaningful as ...prohibiting mumming to prevent bank robbery! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <1094812434.17378.73.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20040910031910.GC1568822@hiwaay.net> <1094812434.17378.73.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 12:33:54PM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > MySQL has been made aware of this problem and provided the FLOSS > exception: > http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html But not yet released anything with that license, nor fixed up some of the corner cases. > Not to mention that numerous other distributions already include > MySQL-4: Rock Linux, Slackware, Debian, Gentoo,... Red Hat is obliged to follow the law and its lawyers recommendations. However from your previous ranting about postgres I guess you've got a personal agenda that isn't about facts anyway Alan From thomasz at hostmaster.org Fri Sep 10 11:23:55 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:23:55 +0200 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20040910031910.GC1568822@hiwaay.net> <1094812434.17378.73.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> On Fre, 2004-09-10 at 07:06 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > MySQL has been made aware of this problem and provided the FLOSS > > exception: > > http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html > > But not yet released anything with that license, nor fixed up some of > the corner cases. Not true, see http://lists.mysql.com/announce/217 > > Not to mention that numerous other distributions already include > > MySQL-4: Rock Linux, Slackware, Debian, Gentoo,... > > Red Hat is obliged to follow the law and its lawyers recommendations. What are you trying to say? That the others are not obliged to follow the laws or that RedHat got bad lawyers? Would you not consult another lawyer before trusting one's opinion to pay license fees to SCO? > However from your previous ranting about postgres I guess you've got a > personal agenda that isn't about facts anyway Everyone has a personal agenda that is derived from numerous facts in the persons live. But if you read my 'rant' again you may find that I have provided four plain facts: - MySQL has a fine grained access control - PostgreSQL requires regular maintenance (VACUUM) - PostgrSQL fail to use the index for a simple 'SELECT MAX(column)' - PostgreSQL needs a complete dump restore for at least every minor version upgrade Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From alan at redhat.com Fri Sep 10 11:32:24 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:32:24 -0400 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20040910031910.GC1568822@hiwaay.net> <1094812434.17378.73.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <20040910113224.GA20070@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 01:23:55PM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > > But not yet released anything with that license, nor fixed up some of > > the corner cases. > > Not true, see http://lists.mysql.com/announce/217 Ok so 6:48am this morning they released something. Well guess what I hadn't read the mysql list since 6:48am this morning. I guess it may well make FC4 then > > > Not to mention that numerous other distributions already include > > > MySQL-4: Rock Linux, Slackware, Debian, Gentoo,... > > > > Red Hat is obliged to follow the law and its lawyers recommendations. > > What are you trying to say? That the others are not obliged to follow > the laws or that RedHat got bad lawyers? Neither of the above. A more crass way of putting it would be "The others aren't worth sueing". Alan From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Fri Sep 10 11:28:05 2004 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:28:05 +0200 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20040910031910.GC1568822@hiwaay.net> <1094812434.17378.73.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <20040910112805.GW15885@br-online.de> Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > On Fre, 2004-09-10 at 07:06 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > But not yet released anything with that license, nor fixed up some of > > the corner cases. > > Not true, see http://lists.mysql.com/announce/217 Which was *THIS* morning. Do you expect everyone to read *all* announcements of each open source project? Please, take your stupid trolling somewhere else. Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From mike at netlyncs.com Fri Sep 10 12:42:17 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:42:17 -0500 Subject: [logwatch Q] Any alternatives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094820137.3297.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 07:21 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Group, > I'm looking for something similar to logwatch that allows a little > more configuration. Something that allows the user to adjust what is > seen as needing reporting. I use epylog from the URL below.. http://linux.duke.edu/projects/epylog/ I have done little configuration to it, but you might like it a little more than logwatch. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mike at netlyncs.com Fri Sep 10 12:56:31 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:56:31 -0500 Subject: Evolution and https Message-ID: <1094820991.4580.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Not sure if this is an Evolution problem, or gnome/system problem. But when there is a link with https, it won't trigger any programs (In my case, firefox or mozilla). And I don't see a program any longer that allows me to add an extension or prefix or whatever to let https open in a program. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri Sep 10 15:15:25 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:15:25 -0400 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <20040910112805.GW15885@br-online.de> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040910112805.GW15885@br-online.de> Message-ID: <200409101115.25362.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 10 September 2004 07:28, Ralph Angenendt wrote: >Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: >> On Fre, 2004-09-10 at 07:06 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: >> > But not yet released anything with that license, nor fixed up >> > some of the corner cases. >> >> Not true, see http://lists.mysql.com/announce/217 > >Which was *THIS* morning. Do you expect everyone to read *all* >announcements of each open source project? > >Please, take your stupid trolling somewhere else. > >Ralph I agree, but then IANAL. I went and read that little 'rider' and AFAIAC, while the language purports do make exceptions, my personal view of the GPL is that there aren't any exceptions. It seems to specifically address the possibility by denying the GPL status to anything that intends to put further exceptions/restrictions in place. If PHP linkage/use with MySQL is the friction point, and PHP isn't 100% GPL as someone indicated, then maybe the _real_ problem is that the PHP license needs readjusted. I don't personally use either so the discussion is just extra noise, and I'm sorry to have contributed to it. An old farts $0.02. And he doubts thats it worth even that. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From ksnider at flarn.com Fri Sep 10 15:47:29 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:47:29 -0400 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <200409101115.25362.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040910112805.GW15885@br-online.de> <200409101115.25362.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4141CC91.4000509@flarn.com> Gene Heskett wrote: > I agree, but then IANAL. I went and read that little 'rider' and > AFAIAC, while the language purports do make exceptions, my personal > view of the GPL is that there aren't any exceptions. It seems to > specifically address the possibility by denying the GPL status to > anything that intends to put further exceptions/restrictions in > place. If PHP linkage/use with MySQL is the friction point, and PHP > isn't 100% GPL as someone indicated, then maybe the _real_ problem is > that the PHP license needs readjusted. I don't personally use either > so the discussion is just extra noise, and I'm sorry to have > contributed to it. > > An old farts $0.02. And he doubts thats it worth even that. You're forgetting one critical point. MySQL AB is more than capable of dual/multi licensing their code. The code is licensed under the GPL, with specific exceptions for specific software. This means, in essence, that the GPL does not apply to these exceptions. This being true, the wrding of the GPL is irrelevant for the exceptions. The GPL cannont (and is not intended to) restrict what licenses the *copyright holders* can choose to license their works. -- Ken Snider From reader at newsguy.com Fri Sep 10 16:46:24 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:46:24 -0500 Subject: [logwatch Q] Any alternatives In-Reply-To: <1094820137.3297.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> (Mike Chambers's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:42:17 -0500") References: <1094820137.3297.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: Mike Chambers writes: >> I'm looking for something similar to logwatch that allows a little >> more configuration. Something that allows the user to adjust what is >> seen as needing reporting. > > I use epylog from the URL below.. > > http://linux.duke.edu/projects/epylog/ > > I have done little configuration to it, but you might like it a little > more than logwatch. Thanks... it doesn't say anything about being configurable in the way I described either. From marcmo at foxriver.com Fri Sep 10 13:53:22 2004 From: marcmo at foxriver.com (Marcos A. Mondragon) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:53:22 -0500 Subject: kernel 541 ext3 errors: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit Message-ID: <1094824402.23342.39.camel@frln06.foxriver.com> Hello, I've been getting these sort of errors for all of the recent FC3 test1/2 kernels. I can get around it by compiling ext3 and jbd into the kernel but I would think that this should work as a module. I've tried using the --with=jbd when building the initrd image but I still haven't been able to get it to work. I'm looking for a clue here (be nice). My machine spec's are: MSI K8N Neo nforce3-250 chipset AMD64 CPU 1 GB RAM SATA Drive Here's a snippet of the capture from the Serial Console: Red Hat nash version 4.1.10 starting ro root=LABEL=/ console=tty0 console=ttyS0 Mounted /proc filesystem Mounting sysfs Creating /dev Starting udev Loading ext3.ko module ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit ext3: Unknown symbol journal_dirty_data ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit_nested ext3: Unknown symbol journal_init_dev ext3: Unknown symbol journal_dirty_metadata ext3: Unknown symbol journal_forget ext3: Unknown symbol journal_wipe ext3: Unknown symbol journal_blocks_per_page ext3: Unknown symbol journal_errno ext3: Unknown symbol journal_extend ext3: Unknown symbol journal_invalidatepage ext3: Unknown symbol journal_create ext3: Unknown symbol journal_unlock_updates ext3: Unknown symbol journal_revoke ext3: Unknown symbol journal_lock_updates ext3: Unknown symbol journal_start_commit ext3: Unknown symbol journal_flush ext3: Unknown symbol journal_load ext3: Unknown symbol journal_try_to_free_buffers ext3: Unknown symbol journal_update_format ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_write_access ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_undo_access ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_create_access ext3: Unknown symbol journal_destroy ext3: Unknown symbol journal_clear_err ext3: Unknown symbol journal_stop ext3: Unknown symbol journal_init_inode ext3: Unknown symbol journal_start ext3: Unknown symbol log_wait_commit ext3: Unknown symbol journal_release_buffer ext3: Unknown symbol journal_check_available_features ext3: Unknown symbol journal_abort ext3: Unknown symbol journal_restart Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! insmod: error inserting '/lib/ex t3.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module ERROR: /bin/insmod exited abnormally! Loading jbd.ko module Creating root device mkrootdev: label / not found Mounting root filesystem mount: error 19 mounting ext3 mount: error 2 mounting none Switching to new root switchroot: mount failed: 22 umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 Thanks, Marc Mondragon Fox River Financial Resources/Ritchie Capital Investments, Ltd. 2100 Enterprise Avenue Geneva, IL 60134 marcmo at foxriver.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From lnxxprt at arcor.de Fri Sep 10 17:34:32 2004 From: lnxxprt at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:34:32 +0200 Subject: kernel 541 ext3 errors: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit In-Reply-To: <1094824402.23342.39.camel@frln06.foxriver.com> References: <1094824402.23342.39.camel@frln06.foxriver.com> Message-ID: <4141E5A8.7060803@arcor.de> downgrade your gawk package to gawk-3.1.3-9 and rebuild the initrd. /ds Marcos A. Mondragon wrote: > Hello, > > I've been getting these sort of errors for all of the recent FC3 test1/2 > kernels. I can get around it by compiling ext3 and jbd into the kernel > but I would think that this should work as a module. I've tried using > the --with=jbd when building the initrd image but I still haven't been > able to get it to work. I'm looking for a clue here (be nice). > > My machine spec's are: > > MSI K8N Neo > nforce3-250 chipset > AMD64 CPU > 1 GB RAM > SATA Drive > > Here's a snippet of the capture from the Serial Console: > > Red Hat nash version 4.1.10 starting > ro root=LABEL=/ console=tty0 console=ttyS0 > Mounted /proc filesystem > Mounting sysfs > Creating /dev > Starting udev > Loading ext3.ko module > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_dirty_data > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit_nested > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_init_dev > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_dirty_metadata > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_forget > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_wipe > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_blocks_per_page > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_errno > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_extend > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_invalidatepage > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_create > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_unlock_updates > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_revoke > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_lock_updates > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_start_commit > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_flush > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_load > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_try_to_free_buffers > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_update_format > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_write_access > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_undo_access > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_create_access > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_destroy > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_clear_err > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_stop > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_init_inode > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_start > ext3: Unknown symbol log_wait_commit > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_release_buffer > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_check_available_features > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_abort > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_restart > Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! > insmod: error inserting '/lib/ex t3.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module > ERROR: /bin/insmod exited abnormally! > Loading jbd.ko module > Creating root device > mkrootdev: label / not found > Mounting root filesystem > mount: error 19 mounting ext3 > mount: error 2 mounting none > Switching to new root > switchroot: mount failed: 22 > umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 > > > Thanks, > > Marc Mondragon > > Fox River Financial Resources/Ritchie Capital Investments, Ltd. > 2100 Enterprise Avenue > Geneva, IL 60134 > marcmo at foxriver.com > From al at authentidate.de Fri Sep 10 17:52:00 2004 From: al at authentidate.de (Andreas Laumann) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:52:00 +0200 Subject: kernel 541 ext3 errors: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit In-Reply-To: <4141E5A8.7060803@arcor.de> References: <1094824402.23342.39.camel@frln06.foxriver.com> <4141E5A8.7060803@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1094838720.4821.5.camel@justine.inexnet.de> Or set the magic GAWK_NO_DFA=1 env after that you can easily rebuild your initrd with mkinitrd -v -f /boot/to-your-initrd whatever_kernel_version Works for me with the actual gawk and current kernels Andreas Am Freitag, den 10.09.2004, 19:34 +0200 schrieb D. Stolte: > downgrade your gawk package to gawk-3.1.3-9 and rebuild the initrd. > > /ds > > Marcos A. Mondragon wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've been getting these sort of errors for all of the recent FC3 test1/2 > > kernels. I can get around it by compiling ext3 and jbd into the kernel > > but I would think that this should work as a module. I've tried using > > the --with=jbd when building the initrd image but I still haven't been > > able to get it to work. I'm looking for a clue here (be nice). > > > > My machine spec's are: > > > > MSI K8N Neo > > nforce3-250 chipset > > AMD64 CPU > > 1 GB RAM > > SATA Drive > > > > Here's a snippet of the capture from the Serial Console: > > > > Red Hat nash version 4.1.10 starting > > ro root=LABEL=/ console=tty0 console=ttyS0 > > Mounted /proc filesystem > > Mounting sysfs > > Creating /dev > > Starting udev > > Loading ext3.ko module > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_dirty_data > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit_nested > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_init_dev > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_dirty_metadata > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_forget > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_wipe > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_blocks_per_page > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_errno > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_extend > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_invalidatepage > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_create > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_unlock_updates > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_revoke > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_lock_updates > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_start_commit > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_flush > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_load > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_try_to_free_buffers > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_update_format > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_write_access > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_undo_access > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_create_access > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_destroy > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_clear_err > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_stop > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_init_inode > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_start > > ext3: Unknown symbol log_wait_commit > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_release_buffer > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_check_available_features > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_abort > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_restart > > Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! > > insmod: error inserting '/lib/ex t3.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module > > ERROR: /bin/insmod exited abnormally! > > Loading jbd.ko module > > Creating root device > > mkrootdev: label / not found > > Mounting root filesystem > > mount: error 19 mounting ext3 > > mount: error 2 mounting none > > Switching to new root > > switchroot: mount failed: 22 > > umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marc Mondragon > > > > Fox River Financial Resources/Ritchie Capital Investments, Ltd. > > 2100 Enterprise Avenue > > Geneva, IL 60134 > > marcmo at foxriver.com > > > > -- Nope. I do it for all my firewalls. rpm -e perl is the highlight of the install experience ;) - Alan Cox - Andreas Laumann phone: +49 211 43 69 89-0 Chief Software Architect mobile: +49 172 783 7507 Authentidate International AG fax: +49 211 43 69 89-19 Grossenbaumer Weg 6 mail: al at authentidate.de 40472 Duesseldorf / Germany web: http://www.authentidate.de From aoliva at redhat.com Fri Sep 10 17:55:10 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 10 Sep 2004 14:55:10 -0300 Subject: kernel 541 ext3 errors: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit In-Reply-To: <1094824402.23342.39.camel@frln06.foxriver.com> References: <1094824402.23342.39.camel@frln06.foxriver.com> Message-ID: On Sep 10, 2004, "Marcos A. Mondragon" wrote: > Starting udev > Loading ext3.ko module > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit It's missing module jdb. That's known to be caused by a bug in gawk-3.1.4, that made it to rawhide shortly before the freeze for FC3test2, and then was downgraded back to gawk-3.1.3-9. Downgrade gawk, re-run mkinitrd and you should be fine. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From tduvally at brown.edu Fri Sep 10 17:54:28 2004 From: tduvally at brown.edu (Thomas DuVally) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:54:28 -0400 Subject: Evolution and https In-Reply-To: <1094820991.4580.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1094820991.4580.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1094838868.2831.38.camel@croithine.cis.brown.edu> On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 08:56, Mike Chambers wrote: > Not sure if this is an Evolution problem, or gnome/system problem. But > when there is a link with https, it won't trigger any programs (In my > case, firefox or mozilla). And I don't see a program any longer that > allows me to add an extension or prefix or whatever to let https open in > a program. > I just found a fix to a similar problem. Gnome not allowing you to set a default browser for https. This command sets it: gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/command -t string 'your-browser-here %s' Also, just to nit-pick, this issue doesn't really belong in fedora-test-list, more like fedora-list. > -- > Mike Chambers > Madisonville, KY > > "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" -- Thomas J. DuVally Lead Systems Prog. CIS, Brown Univ. GPG fingerprint = FB59 8265 0865 0CB8 94B5 FC26 F573 F09C 15F2 33F6 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net><20040910031910.GC1568822@hiwaay.net><1094812434.17378.73.camel@hostmaster.org><20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com><1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040910113224.GA20070@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <007101c49762$7c71f9d0$b100000a@M145Primary> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Cox" > On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 01:23:55PM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > > > From: "Alan Cox" > > > But not yet released anything with that license, nor fixed up some of > > > the corner cases. > > > > Not true, see http://lists.mysql.com/announce/217 > > Ok so 6:48am this morning they released something. Well guess what I hadn't > read the mysql list since 6:48am this morning. I guess it may well make > FC4 then There was no chance at playing that game! Too funny... :-) -eric wood From marcmo at foxriver.com Fri Sep 10 17:57:37 2004 From: marcmo at foxriver.com (Marcos A. Mondragon) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:57:37 -0500 Subject: kernel 541 ext3 errors: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit In-Reply-To: References: <1094824402.23342.39.camel@frln06.foxriver.com> Message-ID: <1094839057.23342.61.camel@frln06.foxriver.com> I just did and this is what I get now: powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.00.09b) powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5) ACPI wakeup devices: HUB0 HUB1 USB0 USB1 USB2 F139 MMAC MMCI UAR1 BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 2 devices found Freeing unused kernel memory: 152k freed Red Hat nash version 4.1.10 starting ro root=LABEL=/ console=tty0 console=tty.Mounted /proc filesystem ed /proc filesystem Mounting sysfs Creating /dev Starting udev Loading jbd.ko module Loading ext3.ko module Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Creating root de vice mkrootdev: label / not found Mounting root filesystem mount: error 2 mounting ext3 mount: error 2 mounting none ..WSwitching to new root switchroot: mount failed: 22 umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 Marc Mondragon On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 12:55, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Sep 10, 2004, "Marcos A. Mondragon" wrote: > > > Starting udev > > Loading ext3.ko module > > ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit > > It's missing module jdb. That's known to be caused by a bug in > gawk-3.1.4, that made it to rawhide shortly before the freeze for > FC3test2, and then was downgraded back to gawk-3.1.3-9. Downgrade > gawk, re-run mkinitrd and you should be fine. -- Marc Mondragon Fox River Financial Resources/Ritchie Capital Investments, Ltd. 2100 Enterprise Avenue Geneva, IL 60134 marcmo at foxriver.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rpa4email at rogers.com Fri Sep 10 19:19:03 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:19:03 -0400 Subject: Evolution and https In-Reply-To: <1094820991.4580.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1094820991.4580.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1094843944.21452.57.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> On Fri, 2004-10-09 at 07:56 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > Not sure if this is an Evolution problem, or gnome/system problem. But > when there is a link with https, it won't trigger any programs (In my > case, firefox or mozilla). And I don't see a program any longer that > allows me to add an extension or prefix or whatever to let https open in > a program. I can confirm this behaviour. It may be a gnome issue ... switching to the console that called startx I see: (evolution-1.6:21452): evolution_mail_WARNING **: gnome_url_show: There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location. I just don't know what to file a bugzilla against :) While I am on the subject, preferred applications has evolution-1.6 hard coded and with the change to evolution-2.0, launchmail fails. I had to create a symlink named evolution-1.6 to get it to work. Rob. From rpa4email at rogers.com Fri Sep 10 19:21:38 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:21:38 -0400 Subject: Evolution and https In-Reply-To: <1094838868.2831.38.camel@croithine.cis.brown.edu> References: <1094820991.4580.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1094838868.2831.38.camel@croithine.cis.brown.edu> Message-ID: <1094844099.21452.60.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> On Fri, 2004-10-09 at 13:54 -0400, Thomas DuVally wrote: > I just found a fix to a similar problem. Gnome not allowing you to set > a default browser for https. This command sets it: > gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/command -t string > 'your-browser-here %s' Thanks for this ... > Also, just to nit-pick, this issue doesn't really belong in > fedora-test-list, more like fedora-list. This issue only happened to me recently so I would think it was a test issue not a release issue. Rob. From mike at netlyncs.com Fri Sep 10 19:58:20 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:58:20 -0500 Subject: Evolution and https In-Reply-To: <1094838868.2831.38.camel@croithine.cis.brown.edu> References: <1094820991.4580.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1094838868.2831.38.camel@croithine.cis.brown.edu> Message-ID: <1094846300.10022.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 13:54 -0400, Thomas DuVally wrote: > On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 08:56, Mike Chambers wrote: > > Not sure if this is an Evolution problem, or gnome/system problem. But > > when there is a link with https, it won't trigger any programs (In my > > case, firefox or mozilla). And I don't see a program any longer that > > allows me to add an extension or prefix or whatever to let https open in > > a program. > > > > I just found a fix to a similar problem. Gnome not allowing you to set > a default browser for https. This command sets it: > > gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/command -t string > 'your-browser-here %s' This didn't seem to fix it for me. I just replaced 'your-browser-here % s' with 'firefox %s' in the command and still nothing. > Also, just to nit-pick, this issue doesn't really belong in > fedora-test-list, more like fedora-list. Being as I'm using FC3t1 and testing, this would be the *only* place (besides bugzilla or devel-list) to post. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mike at netlyncs.com Fri Sep 10 19:59:44 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:59:44 -0500 Subject: Evolution and https In-Reply-To: <1094843944.21452.57.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> References: <1094820991.4580.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1094843944.21452.57.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Message-ID: <1094846384.10022.4.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 15:19 -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > While I am on the subject, preferred applications has evolution-1.6 hard > coded and with the change to evolution-2.0, launchmail fails. I had to > create a symlink named evolution-1.6 to get it to work. I can confirm this behavior as well, and had to do the same thing as above, except I just changed the command to evolution-2.0 and didnt' have to recreate a symbolic link. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From lowen at pari.edu Fri Sep 10 21:50:59 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:50:59 -0400 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <200409101750.59896.lowen@pari.edu> On Friday 10 September 2004 07:23, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > - MySQL has a fine grained access control How fine do you need? Checked out what you can do with pg_hba.conf lately? What sort of fine-grained control do you need? You might be surprized at what you can do now. > - PostgreSQL requires regular maintenance (VACUUM) Try pg_autovacuum, included in the tarball. All databases need regular maintenance if you care about your data. > - PostgrSQL fail to use the index for a simple 'SELECT MAX(column)' Really? Got any EXPLAIN output to prove that? > - PostgreSQL needs a complete dump restore for at least every minor > version upgrade Wrong. PostgreSQL needs a dump restore for a major version upgrade. Major is like 7.2 to 7.3. PostgreSQL's versioning is more like the Linux kernel than other packages in versioning. Even then, the Slony replication engine allows you to replicate to a newer version and keep both up and running concurrently. But how do you convert from MyISAM to InnoDB tables under MySQL? What about major upgrades in Oracle? The upgrade issue is a straw man, in reality. Yes, it is an issue. It is not a deal-breaking issue. None of these issues are deal-breakers. However, the issues MySQL has with data integrity are deal breakers for me. MySQL, as long as the developers don't deal with the serious data-corrupting issues (such as not throwing an error when numerics overflow), will never be enterprise-class. It could be, but it's going to require an enterprise-ready attitude from its developers. For low-requiremet stuff like websites, MySQL is fine. But speed isn't a big difference any more (using InnoDB tables so that apples are compared to apples); features are nowhere near as complete as with PostgreSQL; type, operator, function, and language extensibility is not there (contrasted with the ability to embed functions in Java, R, Perl, Python, Tcl, and a dialect of something similar to Oracle's pl/SQL; the ability to create new language PL's; the ability to create whole new operators and data types; and the list goes on. MySQL does not yet have this flexibility; see for instance the PostGIS project that does Geographic Information Systems work at the high end. And PostgreSQL is not owned by or sponsored by any one company; nor is it an issue to embed PostgreSQL in a commercial product. Yes, I am biased. See my references to understand why. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From notting at redhat.com Fri Sep 10 22:14:24 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:14:24 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Schedule Update - Test 2 Delayed Message-ID: <20040910221424.GA31318@nostromo.test.redhat.com> Due to various issues with candidate trees so far, Test 2 has been pushed out one week, to September 20th. Updated schedule is at: http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Bill From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Sep 10 22:15:40 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:15:40 +0100 Subject: Sound has disappeared Message-ID: <1094854540.4712.6.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I've just done the first update since Saturday and have found that I have no sound whatsoever. Running system-config-soundcard gives me this Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/system-config-soundcard.py", line 46, in ? app = soundcard.childWindow() File "/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcard.py", line 87, in __init__ self.device, self.module, self.maker, self.model = self.soundcardBackend.getData(card) File "/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcardBackend.py", line 98, in getData maker, model = string.split(description, "|") ValueError: unpack list of wrong size /etc/modprobe.conf looks fine The gnome volume controller is reporting that no sound cards can be found. I have an Audigy soundblaster and intel i810. Both of which worked last week, but not currently. Anyone else having problems? /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 exist. They're not symlinked to anything and /sbin/lsmod is showing that snd_intel8x0 and snd_emu10k1 are both loaded and happy. The cards are showing up using /sbin/lspci TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From lowen at pari.edu Fri Sep 10 22:00:37 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:00:37 -0400 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094811855.17378.66.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409092224.12937.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1094811855.17378.66.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <200409101800.37544.lowen@pari.edu> On Friday 10 September 2004 06:24, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > Where MySQL provides performance, reliability, standards conformance, PostgreSQL is as high performance as MySQL (where MySQL is using InnoDB tables) and the load is multiple users. Benchmarks are there. PostgreSQL's reliability is good enough to run the .ORG domain registry, and MySQL is not even a competitor in that space. PostgreSQL is considerably more ANSI SQL-99 compliant than MySQL. And don't get me started about MySQL's data corruption by design issues because throwing an error hurts performance.... .... See http://sql-info.de/mysql/gotchas.html for more information. MySQL is a toy database that is getting better. It's like running a industrial robot with a Lego Minstorms controller. Competition is good; but SQLite is MySQL's competition, and SQLite is faster. PostgreSQL is not MySQL's competitor; think Oracle, Sybase, and MS-SQL instead. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Fri Sep 10 23:37:46 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:37:46 -0400 Subject: Evolution and https In-Reply-To: <1094846384.10022.4.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1094820991.4580.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1094843944.21452.57.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> <1094846384.10022.4.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1094859467.26721.10.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 14:59 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 15:19 -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > > > While I am on the subject, preferred applications has evolution-1.6 hard > > coded and with the change to evolution-2.0, launchmail fails. I had to > > create a symlink named evolution-1.6 to get it to work. > > I can confirm this behavior as well, and had to do the same thing as > above, except I just changed the command to evolution-2.0 and didnt' > have to recreate a symbolic link. This is a bug in "gnome-default-applications-properties", http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148991 If you set the gconf key, it works, as long as you don't open "Preferred Applications" again. -- Ricardo Veguilla From thomasz at hostmaster.org Sat Sep 11 00:00:25 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 02:00:25 +0200 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <200409101750.59896.lowen@pari.edu> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> <200409101750.59896.lowen@pari.edu> Message-ID: <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> On Fre, 2004-09-10 at 17:50 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > - MySQL has a fine grained access control > > How fine do you need? Checked out what you can do with pg_hba.conf lately? > What sort of fine-grained control do you need? You might be surprized at > what you can do now. No, but I doubt that you can restrict a user to read-only access of single column. > > - PostgrSQL fail to use the index for a simple 'SELECT MAX(column)' > > Really? Got any EXPLAIN output to prove that? Fortunately I have no access to PostgreSQL any more but I have seen an EXPLAIN output proving this; Besides it is on the PostgreSQL developers todo list for a long time: http://developer.postgresql.org/todo.php > > - PostgreSQL needs a complete dump restore for at least every minor > > version upgrade > > Wrong. PostgreSQL needs a dump restore for a major version upgrade. Major is > like 7.2 to 7.3. PostgreSQL's versioning is more like the Linux kernel than > other packages in versioning. Even then, the Slony replication engine allows > you to replicate to a newer version and keep both up and running > concurrently. Please correct me if I am wrong but I consider 7 to be the current major and 4 to be the current minor version. But even when stepping from 7.4.x to 7.4.2 the PostgreSQL developers recommend a dump/restore cycle. > And PostgreSQL is not owned by or sponsored by any one company; nor is it an > issue to embed PostgreSQL in a commercial product. AFAIK PostgreSQL is licensed as GPL with no exceptions, so it is a problem for commercial applications. Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key There's too much blood in my caffeine system. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Sat Sep 11 00:06:52 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:06:52 +0100 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> <200409101750.59896.lowen@pari.edu> <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <20040911000652.GA8817@nsk.no-ip.org> On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 02:00:25AM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > On Fre, 2004-09-10 at 17:50 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > - MySQL has a fine grained access control > > > > How fine do you need? Checked out what you can do with pg_hba.conf lately? > > What sort of fine-grained control do you need? You might be surprized at > > what you can do now. > > No, but I doubt that you can restrict a user to read-only access of > single column. > > > > - PostgrSQL fail to use the index for a simple 'SELECT MAX(column)' > > > > Really? Got any EXPLAIN output to prove that? > > Fortunately I have no access to PostgreSQL any more but I have seen an > EXPLAIN output proving this; Besides it is on the PostgreSQL developers > todo list for a long time: http://developer.postgresql.org/todo.php > > > > - PostgreSQL needs a complete dump restore for at least every minor > > > version upgrade > > > > Wrong. PostgreSQL needs a dump restore for a major version upgrade. Major is > > like 7.2 to 7.3. PostgreSQL's versioning is more like the Linux kernel than > > other packages in versioning. Even then, the Slony replication engine allows > > you to replicate to a newer version and keep both up and running > > concurrently. > > Please correct me if I am wrong but I consider 7 to be the current major > and 4 to be the current minor version. But even when stepping from 7.4.x > to 7.4.2 the PostgreSQL developers recommend a dump/restore cycle. > > > And PostgreSQL is not owned by or sponsored by any one company; nor is it an > > issue to embed PostgreSQL in a commercial product. > > AFAIK PostgreSQL is licensed as GPL with no exceptions, so it is a > problem for commercial applications. BSD > > Tom > > -- > T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) > PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 > finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key > > There's too much blood in my caffeine system. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. From reader at newsguy.com Sat Sep 11 00:40:48 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:40:48 -0500 Subject: truncated cmdline In-Reply-To: <200409090749.09701.lsomike@futzin.com> (Mike Klinke's message of "Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:49:09 -0500") References: <200409090749.09701.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: Mike Klinke writes: > I'd strongly suggest you reboot into a different kernel since .538 > is now known to cause file system problems and I'm sure you'll have > to fix your current file system too. So far, I've not seen these > problems with the .541 kernel. Thanks, I did that and quite a few other updates (all kde) and few others ... the odd truncations have stopped. From lowen at pari.edu Sat Sep 11 01:21:33 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:21:33 -0400 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409101750.59896.lowen@pari.edu> <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <200409102121.33428.lowen@pari.edu> On Friday 10 September 2004 20:00, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > On Fre, 2004-09-10 at 17:50 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > - MySQL has a fine grained access control > > How fine do you need? > No, but I doubt that you can restrict a user to read-only access of > single column. > > Major is like 7.2 to 7.3. PostgreSQL's versioning is more like the Linux > > kernel than other packages in versioning. Even then, the Slony > > replication engine allows you to replicate to a newer version and keep > > both up and running concurrently. > Please correct me if I am wrong but I consider 7 to be the current major > and 4 to be the current minor version. Is this true with the Linux kernel? I consider 2.6 to be a major version over 2.4. 2.6.8 is a minor version over 2.6.7. This is the way the PostgreSQL developers (of whom I am one) number it. > But even when stepping from 7.4.x > to 7.4.2 the PostgreSQL developers recommend a dump/restore cycle. Nope. You can do it, but it's never been 'recommended' to do. If you make a copy of the data tree you're pretty safe, since any 7.4.x is binary format compatible with any 7.4.y. > AFAIK PostgreSQL is licensed as GPL with no exceptions, so it is a > problem for commercial applications. PostgreSQL is, has been, and likely will always be BSD licensed. No problems for anyone. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From lowen at pari.edu Sat Sep 11 01:29:45 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:29:45 -0400 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200409101750.59896.lowen@pari.edu> <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <200409102129.45046.lowen@pari.edu> On Friday 10 September 2004 20:00, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > No, but I doubt that you can restrict a user to read-only access of > single column. Forgot to answer this one. While I can't yet GRANT on column, I CAN enforce read-only with a trigger. (That is, an on update trigger or insert trigger that throws an ABORT when a write is attempted to the column being protected; the ROLLBACK provides double enforcement). More work, but doable. Plus, with triggers I can do more. But, yes, a GRANT on column would be a nice thing to add. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From pabos at glypsube.org Sat Sep 11 00:32:09 2004 From: pabos at glypsube.org (Patrick) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:32:09 -0700 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> <200409101750.59896.lowen@pari.edu> <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <1094862728.24751.25.camel@glypsube.org> I recently began using PostgreSQL for a project at work so a few of these statements jumped out at me as obviously incorrect. My reply covers 7.4 since I am not yet familiar with what 8.0 beta 2 adds: On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 17:00, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > On Fre, 2004-09-10 at 17:50 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > - MySQL has a fine grained access control > > > > How fine do you need? Checked out what you can do with pg_hba.conf lately? > > What sort of fine-grained control do you need? You might be surprized at > > what you can do now. > > No, but I doubt that you can restrict a user to read-only access of > single column. This is true. From the SQL GRANT manual page: "Currently, to grant privileges in PostgreSQL to only a few columns, you must create a view having the desired columns and then grant privileges to that view." I am curious what column-level access control is used for however. My impression is that typically column level access control is needed when all of the logic is stored in the database and in this case isn't MySQL rather limiting for server-side processing? Do you expose MySQL as the interface to your data or is all access done through an intermediary program/script? > > > - PostgrSQL fail to use the index for a simple 'SELECT MAX(column)' > > > > Really? Got any EXPLAIN output to prove that? > > Fortunately I have no access to PostgreSQL any more but I have seen an > EXPLAIN output proving this; Besides it is on the PostgreSQL developers > todo list for a long time: http://developer.postgresql.org/todo.php I think this is still true. The other part of the todo explains the temporary workaround until the query planner can be enhanced. "TODO: Use indexes for MIN() and MAX() MIN/MAX queries can already be rewritten as SELECT col FROM table ORDER BY col {DESC} LIMIT 1. Completing this item involves making this transformation automatically." > > > - PostgreSQL needs a complete dump restore for at least every minor > > > version upgrade > > > > Wrong. PostgreSQL needs a dump restore for a major version upgrade. Major is > > like 7.2 to 7.3. PostgreSQL's versioning is more like the Linux kernel than > > other packages in versioning. Even then, the Slony replication engine allows > > you to replicate to a newer version and keep both up and running > > concurrently. > > Please correct me if I am wrong but I consider 7 to be the current major > and 4 to be the current minor version. But even when stepping from 7.4.x > to 7.4.2 the PostgreSQL developers recommend a dump/restore cycle. Thomas' revised statement is correct. His original assertion is a hyperbole. From ftp://ftp3.ca.postgresql.org/pub/README.v7.4.3 and scrolling down the 7.4.2 release notes: "A dump/restore is not required for those running 7.4.X. However, it may be advisable as the easiest method of incorporating fixes for two errors that have been found in the initial contents of 7.4.X system catalogs. A dump/initdb/reload sequence using 7.4.2's initdb will automatically correct these problems." The instructions go on to describe how some SQL commands could be used to correct a live database instead of doing the dump/restore. The key point about this recommended dump/restore is that it was because of a discovered bug not because of a planned dump/restore for every minor update. The intended plan is that a dump/restore is only needed for every major upgrade version upgrade (ie. 7.x to 8.x). > > And PostgreSQL is not owned by or sponsored by any one company; nor is it an > > issue to embed PostgreSQL in a commercial product. > > AFAIK PostgreSQL is licensed as GPL with no exceptions, so it is a > problem for commercial applications. Following the license link from the webpage (http://www.postgresql.org/licence.html) "PostgreSQL is released under the BSD licence." Patrick From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 11 04:31:38 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:31:38 -0400 Subject: SELinux holding up nautilus-cd-burner Message-ID: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> Just to note that the problem that I mentioned about nautilus-cd-burner not working was caused by SELinux. A bug report has been filed on it for FC3T2. Summary: right clicking on write to cd as a regular user does not work past the part where the CD burner is supposed to be initialized. A popup box will appear and show every time that you click on it. test 1; worked through nautilus, as root (gnome-terminal, su to root, launch nautilus,navigate to iso image location, right click mouse and select "write to CD" (This works) test 2: Try to do this as regular user again, watch it fail again. Then run setenforce 0 in a root tty. Click on the popup selection again, notice the cd is initialized and a successful burn is completed. Other burning software: k3b did not work right as regular user, but did as root before investigating these failures, xcdroast started to burn a CD when initially configured as root. I died and is currently being investigate as to why it bailed shortly after launching. The default SELinux configuration is being applied to this system. (targeted/enforcing) Jim PS: X still has a refresh problem w/ the latest CVS version, for the i815 graphics controller. I thought that it was solved w/ this build. I did not investigate a possible SELinux connection yet for the oddity. From byte at aeon.com.my Sat Sep 11 05:34:09 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:34:09 +1000 Subject: SELinux holding up nautilus-cd-burner In-Reply-To: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> References: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1094880848.12125.13.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 14:31, Jim Cornette wrote: > Summary: right clicking on write to cd as a regular user does not work > past the part where the CD burner is supposed to be initialized. A popup > box will appear and show every time that you click on it. Isn't this because the kernel got changed, "breaking" cdrecord, rather than selinux being at fault? Also, what bug did you file it as (bz numbers help!) But odd when you run setenforce to zero, it works... -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From aoliva at redhat.com Sat Sep 11 05:34:54 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 11 Sep 2004 02:34:54 -0300 Subject: The MySQL question. In-Reply-To: <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <20040909220509.82426.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20040910110644.GA14304@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1094815435.17378.86.camel@hostmaster.org> <200409101750.59896.lowen@pari.edu> <1094860825.17378.105.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: On Sep 10, 2004, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > On Fre, 2004-09-10 at 17:50 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: >> And PostgreSQL is not owned by or sponsored by any one company; nor >> is it an issue to embed PostgreSQL in a commercial product. > AFAIK PostgreSQL is licensed as GPL with no exceptions, so it is a > problem for commercial applications. Even if it was GPL, it wouldn't be a problem for commercial applications. It might be for proprietary applications, but we all know a requirement for software to be considered FOSS is that you can make commercial use, and you can commercialize it. And, heck, IANAL, but I understand that, if your application would not be regarded as a derived work of a GPLed database, you could still make it proprietary, and you could still bundle the database with your application, since the GNU GPL doesn't prohibit this. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From kensol at iprimus.com.au Sat Sep 11 05:44:54 2004 From: kensol at iprimus.com.au (Ken Solomon) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:44:54 +1000 Subject: ImageMagick display not starting Message-ID: <20040911154454.476bd119@localhost.localdomain> Hi all, After upgrading to ImageMagick-6.0.6.2-2, the "display" program would not start for the first time until I manually created the directory and file - "$HOME/.magick/magic.mgk". Just wondering if this is a bug? -- KenSol Linux Registered User #342812 From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 11 06:13:07 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:13:07 -0500 Subject: Error switching between graphical and text logins Message-ID: <200409110113.07145.lsomike@futzin.com> I need some help in order to determine where the fault is here; Kernel, Xorg, gmd, or .... Is this unique to my computer or are others seeing this too? ========= Problem =============== Logging into init level 5 graphical login screen, open up a terminal session, press: init level 3 login screen is displayed press: Instead of being taken back to the terminal session I left, I am presented with a new init level 5 graphical login screen. This is recorded in /var/log/messages: gpm[2841]: *** info [mice.c(1766)]: gpm[2841]: imps2: Auto-detected intellimouse PS/2 kernel: [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 65520 wanted 65528 kernel: [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup gconfd (root-3715): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly gdm[3365]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 gdm(pam_unix)[3365]: session closed for user root gconfd (root-3715): Exiting kernel-2.6.8-1.541.i686 with updates current as of earlier this evening. Regards, Mike Klinke From rhally at mindspring.com Sat Sep 11 06:16:21 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 02:16:21 -0400 Subject: latest update to FC3-test1 hoses the system In-Reply-To: <200409021141.07468.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023936@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> <200409021141.07468.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <41429835.6050501@mindspring.com> Mike Klinke wrote: >On Thursday 02 September 2004 11:31, Nave, Ronald wrote: > > >>I just finished updating my system this morning and now find that >>modprobe generates a segmentation fault when I boot up >> >>As a result I can not load drivers for CD rom , floppy disk , >>ethernet card , or USB memory sticks . >> >>The system boots up , but there is no way to load new files onto >>the system to undo the mess I have gotten into. >> >>It looks like I may have to reformat and start over. >> >> > >Several of us have run into the same problem. What worked for me >was to boot up, navigate to the /var/cache/yum/development/packages >directory, rollback to the previous version of module-init-tools: > >rpm -Uvh --oldpackage module-init-tools-3.0-2.i386.rpm > >and in my case I rebooted into the earlier kernel 2.6.8-1.535 and >everything came back alive. I haven't looked around to see if >there's still any broken glass and scratches but I'm back to where >I can play again. > >Regards, Mike Klinke > > > > > Does anyone know if this problem ever got fixed? ? Thanks, Richard Hally From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 11 06:22:31 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:22:31 -0500 Subject: latest update to FC3-test1 hoses the system In-Reply-To: <41429835.6050501@mindspring.com> References: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023936@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> <200409021141.07468.lsomike@futzin.com> <41429835.6050501@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200409110122.31219.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 11 September 2004 01:16, Richard Hally wrote: > > Does anyone know if this problem ever got fixed? ? > Thanks, > Richard Hally I believe a new package "module-init-tools-3.1-0.pre5.2.i386.rpm" was released that contained a fix. Regards, Mike Klinke From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 11 06:52:45 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:52:45 -0500 Subject: Error switching between graphical and text logins In-Reply-To: <200409110113.07145.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409110113.07145.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <200409110152.45386.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 11 September 2004 01:13, Mike Klinke wrote: > I need some help in order to determine where the fault is here; > Kernel, Xorg, gmd, or .... Is this unique to my computer or are > others seeing this too? > Adding to my previous note, it seems that when Direct Rendering is enabled this symptom persists but if I disable Direct Rendering I can then switch back to the graphical terminal session as I expected. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I'm headed over to Xorg.org to file a bug with the i810 driver ..... Regards, Mike Klinke From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 11 07:17:05 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 02:17:05 -0500 Subject: Error switching between graphical and text logins In-Reply-To: <200409110152.45386.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409110113.07145.lsomike@futzin.com> <200409110152.45386.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <200409110217.05647.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 11 September 2004 01:52, Mike Klinke wrote: > > Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I'm headed over to Xorg.org > to file a bug with the i810 driver ..... > > Regards, Mike Klinke And lastly, if anyone else runs into this ... https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 Regards, Mike Klinke From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat Sep 11 07:29:12 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 02:29:12 -0500 Subject: New ATI driver 3.12 and xorg 6.8.0 In-Reply-To: <200409110113.07145.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409110113.07145.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <4142A948.9060605@austin.rr.com> Hi, I have built/installed both a Fedora 6.8.0 rpm and from the src tarball's. I cannot get 3D to work with the ATI 3.12 driver released yesterday. Another observation, 6.8.0 is friggin slooooowwwwwwwwwww. Byte From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 11 10:07:00 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:07:00 +0100 Subject: SELinux and the kernel - is this right? Message-ID: <1094897220.4712.17.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I'm running /sbin/fixfiles relabel. At the moment, it's going through the /lib/modules directories and I'm getting the likes of this from the relabel /usr/sbin/setfiles: conflicting specifications for /lib/modules/2.6.8-1.541smp/build/sound/synth/emux/Makefile and /lib/modules/2.6.8-1.541/build/sound/synth/emux/Makefile, using system_u:object_r:src_t (there are lots of these appearing) Also, should I be worried (and can this be the reason why I currently have no sound) that setfiles is unable to stat the following files (all begin with /udev/) - mixer, fd0, dsp, audio, loop1, loop5, loop6. loop4, loop0, loop2, loop7, loop3. I have udev-030-23 installed. dev-3.9.2-1 is also installed. TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat Sep 11 10:21:03 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 05:21:03 -0500 Subject: New ATI driver 3.12 and xorg 6.8.0 Message-ID: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> Hi, I have built/installed both a Fedora 6.8.0 rpm and from the src tarball's. I cannot get 3D to work with the ATI 3.12 driver released yesterday. Another observation, 6.8.0 is friggin slooooowwwwwwwwwww. Byte From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Sat Sep 11 11:24:04 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 13:24:04 +0200 Subject: New ATI driver 3.12 and xorg 6.8.0 In-Reply-To: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> References: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1094901843.4754.1.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Byte, > I have built/installed both a Fedora 6.8.0 rpm and from the src > tarball's. I cannot get 3D to work with the ATI 3.12 driver released > yesterday. > > Another observation, 6.8.0 is friggin slooooowwwwwwwwwww. No need to resend your message. It's just that mx3.redhat.com has been slow for a while. Email is not instant messaging (although it luckily seems that way most of the time). Your message will get to the list eventually. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From arjanv at redhat.com Sat Sep 11 11:58:56 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 13:58:56 +0200 Subject: New ATI driver 3.12 and xorg 6.8.0 In-Reply-To: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> References: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1094903936.2698.6.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 12:21, ByteEnable wrote: > Hi, > > I have built/installed both a Fedora 6.8.0 rpm and from the src > tarball's. I cannot get 3D to work with the ATI 3.12 driver released > yesterday. since this is a binary only driver you're better off contacting ATI support.... they have our source, we don't have theirs. From alan at redhat.com Sat Sep 11 13:00:46 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:00:46 -0400 Subject: New ATI driver 3.12 and xorg 6.8.0 In-Reply-To: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> References: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040911130046.GA23445@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 05:21:03AM -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > I have built/installed both a Fedora 6.8.0 rpm and from the src > tarball's. I cannot get 3D to work with the ATI 3.12 driver released > yesterday. > > Another observation, 6.8.0 is friggin slooooowwwwwwwwwww. It works for me with the open source radeon drivers including 3D and its fast. If you turn on all the new composite stuff its slow at the moment but thats to be expected 6.8 delivers the feature but doesn't deliver fancy acceleration for it. From tedkaz at optonline.net Sat Sep 11 13:49:24 2004 From: tedkaz at optonline.net (Ted Kaczmarek) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:49:24 -0400 Subject: rpm md5's bad Message-ID: <1094910564.2729.46.camel@inyoureyes.linsolutions.com> Yum update quirk. desktop-backgrounds-basic MD5 digest: BAD Expected(c737ad68d4a0c19e36b3448b5289317e) != (bf96fb6a42be3d8d0f173ac48c193 136) bogl-bterm MD5 digest: BAD Expected(3028e77fe2b8688f59a35e7474af6904) != (696dd3c5af90907bcccca29f71297 a69) Using repo [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ Sat Sep 11 09:49:16 EDT 2004 Ted From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Sat Sep 11 13:59:04 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:59:04 +0200 Subject: dev-3.12-1 In-Reply-To: <1094897487.4712.20.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094897487.4712.20.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1094911143.3881.1437.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Am Sa, den 11.09.2004 schrieb Paul um 12:11: > Just another little one. dev-3.12-1 doesn't seem to be installable. 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If thats the case its going to be hard for you or anyone else to reproduce. can you reproduce this? Or it could have been some sort of network congestion and a download timeout. Is anyone else seeing this? If it were a network or server load problem I would have expected other people to at least see this from time to time. -jef From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 11 14:36:04 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:36:04 -0400 Subject: Error switching between graphical and text logins In-Reply-To: <200409110217.05647.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200409110113.07145.lsomike@futzin.com> <200409110152.45386.lsomike@futzin.com> <200409110217.05647.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <41430D54.7060402@sbcglobal.net> Mike Klinke wrote: > On Saturday 11 September 2004 01:52, Mike Klinke wrote: > > >>Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I'm headed over to Xorg.org >>to file a bug with the i810 driver ..... >> >>Regards, Mike Klinke > > > And lastly, if anyone else runs into this ... > > https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > It looks like your X is actually halting on you and respawning. I think that the respawning problem and the refresh might have some connection factor. I added my xorg.0.log as comparative information for the bug. I'm still in favor of an i810 and i830 seperate driver. I'd hate for the Intel 845 card to break from patching the i815 graphicsa card problem. It was touchy with earlier versions of xorg-x11 (pre-CVS) Jim From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 11 14:44:07 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:44:07 -0400 Subject: SELinux holding up nautilus-cd-burner In-Reply-To: <1094880848.12125.13.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> <1094880848.12125.13.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <41430F37.10205@sbcglobal.net> Colin Charles wrote: > On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 14:31, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>Summary: right clicking on write to cd as a regular user does not work >>past the part where the CD burner is supposed to be initialized. A popup >>box will appear and show every time that you click on it. > > > Isn't this because the kernel got changed, "breaking" cdrecord, rather > than selinux being at fault? > > Also, what bug did you file it as (bz numbers help!) > > But odd when you run setenforce to zero, it works... http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132225 I burned disc 1-4 after running setenforce 0 and the discs burned successfully using nautilus-cd-burner. Jim From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 11 15:13:52 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:13:52 +0100 Subject: Switching off selinux once a machine has booted Message-ID: <1094915632.4694.18.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I'm trying to find why I don't have /udev/dsp, /udev/fd0, /udev/loop0 - loop7 & /udev/audio showing up as it's a bit too quiet here without xmms playing. When I try to access the files, even as root I get an error of permission denied. Is there anyway of switching off selinux to try and see what's gone wrong on my system or is this more likely to be a udev problem which needs bunging into bugzilla? TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:49:02 -0400 Subject: dev-3.12-1 Message-ID: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA7EE@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Paul Sent: Sat 9/11/2004 6:11 AM To: fedora Subject: dev-3.12-1 Hi, Just another little one. dev-3.12-1 doesn't seem to be installable. All I get when I try to install it is that mounted devfs detected. I am getting the same behaviour: ============================================================= [root at fourier up2date]# yum install dev Setting up Install Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 944 kB 00:05 developmen: ################################################## 3518/3518 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree Resolving Dependencies dev-3.12-1.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 3.0 MB 01:51 Dependencies Resolved [u] dev.i386 0:3.12-1 - user Is this ok [y/N]: y dev-3.12-1.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 3.1 MB 00:38 Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Test Succeeded Running Transaction Cannot install the dev package: mounted devfs detected. error: %pre(dev-3.12-1) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 error: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping dev-3.12-1 Complete! ================================================================ Any way around this? TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 From tedkaz at optonline.net Sat Sep 11 15:53:34 2004 From: tedkaz at optonline.net (Ted Kaczmarek) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:53:34 -0400 Subject: rpm md5's bad In-Reply-To: <604aa7910409110731503679b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1094910564.2729.46.camel@inyoureyes.linsolutions.com> <604aa7910409110731503679b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1094918014.2729.52.camel@inyoureyes.linsolutions.com> On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 10:31, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > All you did was "yum update" ? > > rpm -q yum > yum-2.1.3-1 > yum update works for me at Sat Sep 11 10:25:27 EDT 2004 > > I dont know exactly when the master server uploads its new updates > every morning, you could have happened to have tried to do the update > as the server was still upload its data and thus was in a state of > transition. Those message could have been "real" if you happened to > catch the master server while it was loading those new packages. If > thats the case its going to be hard for you or anyone else to > reproduce. can you reproduce this? > > Or it could have been some sort of network congestion and a download > timeout. Is anyone else seeing this? If it were a network or server > load problem I would have expected other people to at least see this > from time to time. > > -jef Makes sense, I am attempting to upgrade to development from a dev FC2. Been getting quite a few of these along the way. Ted From michal at harddata.com Sat Sep 11 15:54:48 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:54:48 -0600 Subject: ImageMagick display not starting In-Reply-To: <20040911154454.476bd119@localhost.localdomain>; from kensol@iprimus.com.au on Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 03:44:54PM +1000 References: <20040911154454.476bd119@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040911095448.A1272@mail.harddata.com> On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 03:44:54PM +1000, Ken Solomon wrote: > After upgrading to ImageMagick-6.0.6.2-2, the "display" program would > not start for the first time until I manually created the directory and > file - "$HOME/.magick/magic.mgk". Just wondering if this is a bug? It does not have to be $HOME/.magick/magic.mgk. There are few other locations checked first for system-wide versions of this file. And yes, this is clearly a bug. How else you would want to call it? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132106 If you would like add some comments/clarifications to that you are obviously welcome. Michal From michal at harddata.com Sat Sep 11 16:14:26 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:14:26 -0600 Subject: dev-3.12-1 In-Reply-To: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA7EE@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov>; from ernesto@ornl.gov on Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 11:49:02AM -0400 References: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA7EE@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <20040911101426.B1272@mail.harddata.com> On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 11:49:02AM -0400, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > Running Transaction > Cannot install the dev package: mounted devfs detected. ^^^^ This is clearly bogus. Something mounted on /dev was detected but this is not devfs. Minor but somewhat annoying. Bug #130526 in bugzilla and still there. > error: %pre(dev-3.12-1) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > error: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping dev-3.12-1 > Complete! > ================================================================ > > > > Any way around this? Sure. Boot with initrd which _does not_ include support for udev, update 'dev' package, reboot with your "regular" initrd, be happy. Other possibility - add 'exclude=dev' to yours yum config file and forget about it. Also put 'dev' on a list of ignored packages for up2date. Running updates with a file system of tmpfs type mounted on /dev does not make any sense as after a reboot all changes, with an exception of modifications to rpm data bases, will vanish but you can obviously force the issue by using an '--noscripts' option to rpm. Michal From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Sep 11 16:19:53 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:19:53 -0400 Subject: dev-3.12-1 In-Reply-To: <20040911101426.B1272@mail.harddata.com> References: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA7EE@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> <20040911101426.B1272@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910409110919667d0647@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:14:26 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > Running updates with a file system of tmpfs type mounted on /dev > does not make any sense as after a reboot all changes, with an > exception of modifications to rpm data bases, will vanish but you > can obviously force the issue by using an '--noscripts' option to > rpm. my understanding is the tmpfs is being used only my initrd and not being used for /dev/ once the real system boots up. There are real reasons why tmpfs is being used instead of ramfs during the initrd phase, reasons associated with selinux issues which are still slightly over my head. -jef From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Sat Sep 11 16:20:16 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:20:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: dev-3.12-1 In-Reply-To: <1094911143.3881.1437.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> References: <1094897487.4712.20.camel@T7.linux> <1094911143.3881.1437.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Sep 2004, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Am Sa, den 11.09.2004 schrieb Paul um 12:11: > > > Just another little one. dev-3.12-1 doesn't seem to be installable. All > > I get when I try to install it is that mounted devfs detected. > > > > Any way around this? > > See: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg00482.html > > User vcsa with UID 69 did already exist on my system. The problem with this solution is that you aren't actually installing the files on a real partition, so they will all vanish when you next reboot - which is why the pre-script stops you installing dev in the first place. So the real solution is to ignore the reports that dev is out of date until the dev versus udev situation is finalized. If you appear to be missing files in /dev, have a look at how udev manages such files. Michael Young From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat Sep 11 16:19:08 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:19:08 -0500 Subject: New ATI driver 3.12 and xorg 6.8.0 In-Reply-To: <20040911130046.GA23445@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> <20040911130046.GA23445@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4143257C.3080303@austin.rr.com> Alan Cox wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 05:21:03AM -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > >>I have built/installed both a Fedora 6.8.0 rpm and from the src >>tarball's. I cannot get 3D to work with the ATI 3.12 driver released >>yesterday. >> >>Another observation, 6.8.0 is friggin slooooowwwwwwwwwww. > > > It works for me with the open source radeon drivers including 3D and > its fast. If you turn on all the new composite stuff its slow at the > moment but thats to be expected 6.8 delivers the feature but doesn't > deliver fancy acceleration for it. > > I've tried the drivers that came with 6.8. (Radeon) and I get screen artifacts to the point that its not useable (the artifacts accumulate). Even when I alt-F1 to text mode. This is on Radeon Mobility 9000. Byte From michal at harddata.com Sat Sep 11 16:33:10 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:33:10 -0600 Subject: dev-3.12-1 In-Reply-To: <604aa7910409110919667d0647@mail.gmail.com>; from jspaleta@gmail.com on Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 12:19:53PM -0400 References: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA7EE@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> <20040911101426.B1272@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910409110919667d0647@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040911103310.C1272@mail.harddata.com> On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 12:19:53PM -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:14:26 -0600, Michal Jaegermann > wrote: > > Running updates with a file system of tmpfs type mounted on /dev > > does not make any sense as after a reboot all changes, with an > > exception of modifications to rpm data bases, will vanish but you > > can obviously force the issue by using an '--noscripts' option to > > rpm. > > my understanding is the tmpfs is being used only my initrd and not > being used for /dev/ once the real system boots up. If we are going into details that would depend on what is in /etc/udev/udev.conf, I guess. On a system I happen to have here right now "grep ' /dev ' /proc/mounts" shows none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 Twice because something probably forgot to 'pivot_root' pieces of initrd; which is not nice. So, unless /proc/mounts is totally confused, this looks like a memory based file system. Michal From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 11 21:24:28 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:24:28 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X Message-ID: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> I am puzzled why I have a system that is upgraded from an installation dated jan 2004 and X not having the refresh problem exhibited on the freshly installed system. I'm including the xorg.conf file from the installed system and for the upgraded system. The other details for this problem are located on the bug below. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131934 This bug report is a bit messy. The basic details System fresh install: xorg-x11 has a problem with refreshing the display with the binaries. I have to revert to the older driver for a usable X. System upgraded: I do not have a problem with X refreshing and all binaries are what should be installed. See the attached Xorg logs for differences between config files. Thanks, Jim -- You will be honored for contributing your time and skill to a worthy cause. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: clean-xorg.conf URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: upgraded-xorg.conf URL: From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 11 21:39:03 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:39:03 -0500 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409111639.03437.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 11 September 2004 16:24, Jim Cornette wrote: > I am puzzled why I have a system that is upgraded from an > installation dated jan 2004 and X not having the refresh problem > exhibited on the freshly installed system. > Jim, I note that one has default depth=24 and the other default depth=16. On my laptop when I have the gnome properties for the display="millions of colors" which I'm guessing is GUI-speak for 24 bit depth my i815 will not go into Direct Rendering Mode ("glxinfo" shows "DRI=no") but when it's set to display="thousands of colors" (16 bit depth) "glxinfo" shows that "DRI=yes". Since your configurations are different default depths, is one going into DRI and the other not and hence giving you different symptoms? Regards, Mike Klinke From cra at WPI.EDU Sat Sep 11 21:58:14 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:58:14 -0400 Subject: SELinux holding up nautilus-cd-burner In-Reply-To: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> References: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040911215814.GE10610@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 12:31:38AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Other burning software: > k3b did not work right as regular user, but did as root before > investigating these failures, k3b worked perfectly for me as a regular user with a fresh install of the FC3t2-re0908 candidate tree, targeted policy, enforcing. I have not tried nautilus-cd-burner. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 11 22:59:35 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:59:35 -0400 Subject: SELinux holding up nautilus-cd-burner In-Reply-To: <20040911215814.GE10610@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> <20040911215814.GE10610@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <41438357.8090108@sbcglobal.net> Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 12:31:38AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Other burning software: >>k3b did not work right as regular user, but did as root before >>investigating these failures, > > > k3b worked perfectly for me as a regular user with a fresh install of > the FC3t2-re0908 candidate tree, targeted policy, enforcing. I have > not tried nautilus-cd-burner. > > I did not install KDE on the fresh install. I had to get k3b from up2date and install it that way. The problem that I could select items to burn, up to a point. I could not click on the start button. The button was grayed out. I tried as root and things worked for k3b. I burned the discs and went on my way, forgetting about the problem until investigating the nautilus-cd-burner and cdroast problems. Thanks for checking, my check was when rc2 was released and then the next day, when trying to burn an iso. (boot.iso) I'll try kde again, as user, when in the other system. This might be related to not initially having k3b installed and trying as user before trying as root. Jim From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 11 23:05:45 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:05:45 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <200409111639.03437.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409111639.03437.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <414384C9.8050200@sbcglobal.net> Mike Klinke wrote: > On Saturday 11 September 2004 16:24, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>I am puzzled why I have a system that is upgraded from an >>installation dated jan 2004 and X not having the refresh problem >>exhibited on the freshly installed system. >> > > > Jim, > > I note that one has default depth=24 and the other default depth=16. > On my laptop when I have the gnome properties for the > display="millions of colors" which I'm guessing is GUI-speak for 24 > bit depth my i815 will not go into Direct Rendering Mode ("glxinfo" > shows "DRI=no") but when it's set to display="thousands of colors" > (16 bit depth) "glxinfo" shows that "DRI=yes". Since your > configurations are different default depths, is one going into DRI > and the other not and hence giving you different symptoms? > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > Thanks for noticing the depth difference. I believe that I set the depth to 24 on this working, upgraded system manually. If the problem is dri related and increasing the depth from 16 to 24 stops the refresh errors, a DRI problem isolation should narrow down the cause of this error. I'll change the driver back to the supposed to be installation and change the depth to 24 on the clean install and add to the report. I can do without DRI until fixed or keep the older binary and revert to 16 depth. Jim -- You will be honored for contributing your time and skill to a worthy cause. From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Sat Sep 11 23:18:30 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:18:30 -0400 Subject: dev-3.12-1 In-Reply-To: <604aa7910409110919667d0647@mail.gmail.com> References: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA7EE@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> <20040911101426.B1272@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910409110919667d0647@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1094944711.4522.5.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 12:19 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:14:26 -0600, Michal Jaegermann > wrote: > > Running updates with a file system of tmpfs type mounted on /dev > > does not make any sense as after a reboot all changes, with an > > exception of modifications to rpm data bases, will vanish but you > > can obviously force the issue by using an '--noscripts' option to > > rpm. > > my understanding is the tmpfs is being used only my initrd and not > being used for /dev/ once the real system boots up. from /etc/udev/udev.conf # udev_root - where in the filesystem to place the device nodes udev_root="/dev/" ... # if tmpfs should be mounted over the udev_root # automatically yes, if UDEV_KEEP_DEV=yes and UDEV_INITRD=yes UDEV_TMPFS="yes" # if udev should be used in initrd UDEV_INITRD="yes" # if the initrd tmpfs udev_root should be used UDEV_KEEP_DEV="yes" If I'm understanding this correctly, UDEV_KEEP_DEV="yes" means the tpmfs mounted over udev root (in this case /dev) which is use in the initrd remains mounted when the "real system" boots up. -- Ricardo Veguilla From ellson at research.att.com Sat Sep 11 23:30:24 2004 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:30:24 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <41438A90.8080509@research.att.com> Jim, Sounds like the same problem I'm having. Bug #131934 was closed, so I opened Bug #132267 Try adding: Option "NoAccel" just as a workaround (hopefully not the final fix). John Jim Cornette wrote: > I am puzzled why I have a system that is upgraded from an installation > dated jan 2004 and X not having the refresh problem exhibited on the > freshly installed system. > > I'm including the xorg.conf file from the installed system and for the > upgraded system. > > The other details for this problem are located on the bug below. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131934 > > This bug report is a bit messy. > > The basic details > System fresh install: > xorg-x11 has a problem with refreshing the display with the binaries. > I have to revert to the older driver for a usable X. > > System upgraded: > I do not have a problem with X refreshing and all binaries are what > should be installed. > > See the attached Xorg logs for differences between config files. > > Thanks, > > Jim > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ># Xorg configuration created by system-config-display > >Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "single head configuration" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >EndSection > >Section "Files" > ># RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the ># file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally ># no need to change the default. ># Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) ># By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of ># the X server to render fonts. > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > FontPath "unix/:7100" >EndSection > >Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "extmod" > Load "fbdevhw" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > Load "dri" >EndSection > >Section "InputDevice" > ># Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) ># Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" ># To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. ># Option "XkbDisable" ># To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the ># lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. ># keyboard, you will probably want to use: ># Option "XkbModel" "pc102" ># If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: ># Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" ># ># Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. ># For example, a german layout can be obtained with: ># Option "XkbLayout" "de" ># or: ># Option "XkbLayout" "de" ># Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" ># ># If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and ># control keys, use: ># Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" ># Or if you just want both to be control, use: ># Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" ># > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" >EndSection > >Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" >EndSection > >Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Visual Sensa" > DisplaySize 310 230 > HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 > VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 > Option "dpms" >EndSection > >Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "i810" > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > BoardName "Intel 815" >EndSection > >Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 16 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection >EndSection > >Section "DRI" > Group 0 > Mode 0666 >EndSection > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ># XFree86 4 configuration created by redhat-config-xfree86 > >Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "single head configuration" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore" >EndSection > >Section "Files" > ># RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the ># file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally ># no need to change the default. ># Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) ># By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of ># the X server to render fonts. > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > FontPath "unix/:7100" >EndSection > >Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "extmod" > Load "fbdevhw" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > Load "dri" >EndSection > >Section "InputDevice" > ># Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) ># Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" ># To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. ># Option "XkbDisable" ># To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the ># lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. ># keyboard, you will probably want to use: ># Option "XkbModel" "pc102" ># If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: ># Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" ># ># Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. ># For example, a german layout can be obtained with: ># Option "XkbLayout" "de" ># or: ># Option "XkbLayout" "de" ># Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" ># ># If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and ># control keys, use: ># Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" ># Or if you just want both to be control, use: ># Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" ># > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" >EndSection > >Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" >EndSection > >Section "InputDevice" > ># If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then ># this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you ># also use USB mice at the same time. > Identifier "DevInputMice" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" >EndSection > >Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Visual Sensa" > DisplaySize 310 230 > HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 > VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 > Option "dpms" >EndSection > >Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "i810" > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > BoardName "Intel 815" >EndSection > >Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection >EndSection > >Section "DRI" > Group 0 > Mode 0666 >EndSection > > > From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 12 00:17:55 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:17:55 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <41438A90.8080509@research.att.com> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <41438A90.8080509@research.att.com> Message-ID: <414395B3.3080402@sbcglobal.net> John Ellson wrote: > Jim, > > Sounds like the same problem I'm having. > > Bug #131934 was closed, so I opened Bug #132267 > > Try adding: Option "NoAccel" > just as a workaround (hopefully not the final fix). > > John > I'm back on the fresh install system after changing the values to 24 instead of 16 and the refresh problem seems to be moot for now. I don't know if just increasing the settings was enough to disable DRI and make X work again or not. I like the clarity (user factor or actual) with the settings set higher depth. How would I know if DRI is active or not! Below is the output from lsmod. Is there another program that reveals more info related to the X server related problems? I'll keep the NoAccel option in mind if some refresh problem surfaces. Also, out of curiousity, I'll check those bug report references. Thanks for the lead! I hope the fix for this error surfaces also. Jim lsmod Module Size Used by parport_pc 21633 1 lp 9133 0 parport 35337 2 parport_pc,lp autofs4 20293 0 sunrpc 140325 1 ipt_REJECT 4929 1 ipt_state 1473 1 ip_conntrack 33017 1 ipt_state iptable_filter 2113 1 ip_tables 13761 3 ipt_REJECT,ipt_state,iptable_filter dm_mod 46677 0 button 4817 0 battery 6981 0 asus_acpi 9169 0 ac 3397 0 md5 3649 1 ipv6 207457 8 sd_mod 13889 2 usb_storage 57225 1 scsi_mod 104209 2 sd_mod,usb_storage uhci_hcd 28121 0 hw_random 4437 0 snd_intel8x0 29709 3 snd_ac97_codec 61329 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm_oss 42361 0 snd_mixer_oss 14529 3 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 84681 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 25413 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 6985 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm gameport 3777 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_mpu401_uart 7233 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_rawmidi 21733 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 6217 1 snd_rawmidi snd 44709 11 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 7457 3 snd 3c59x 33257 0 ne2k_pci 7201 0 8390 10177 1 ne2k_pci floppy 53873 0 ext3 104105 6 jbd 66137 1 ext3 From ellson at research.att.com Sun Sep 12 00:45:35 2004 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:45:35 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <414395B3.3080402@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <41438A90.8080509@research.att.com> <414395B3.3080402@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <41439C2F.7050802@research.att.com> Jim Cornette wrote: > Is there another program that reveals more info related to the X > server related problems? There are various utilities in /usr/X11R6/bin/ xwininfo xvinfo xdpyinfo John From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 12 01:02:57 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:02:57 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <414384C9.8050200@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409111639.03437.lsomike@futzin.com> <414384C9.8050200@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4143A041.6070508@sbcglobal.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Mike Klinke wrote: > >> On Saturday 11 September 2004 16:24, Jim Cornette wrote: >> >>> I am puzzled why I have a system that is upgraded from an >>> installation dated jan 2004 and X not having the refresh problem >>> exhibited on the freshly installed system. >>> >> >> >> Jim, >> I note that one has default depth=24 and the other default depth=16. >> On my laptop when I have the gnome properties for the >> display="millions of colors" which I'm guessing is GUI-speak for 24 >> bit depth my i815 will not go into Direct Rendering Mode ("glxinfo" >> shows "DRI=no") but when it's set to display="thousands of colors" (16 >> bit depth) "glxinfo" shows that "DRI=yes". Since your configurations >> are different default depths, is one going into DRI and the other not >> and hence giving you different symptoms? >> >> Regards, Mike Klinke Thanks Mike, Attached is my glxinfo file after switching both the settings and putting back the driver that is supposed to be in place. I filed the findings on the xorg bugzilla report below. https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 I'll revert the settings to 16 before the next boot to see if DRI is enabled in the poorly acting settings. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Name: xdpyinfo-at-24 URL: From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Sep 12 02:02:34 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:02:34 -0500 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <414395B3.3080402@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <41438A90.8080509@research.att.com> <414395B3.3080402@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409112102.34559.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 11 September 2004 19:17, Jim Cornette wrote: > How would I know if DRI is active or not! Below is the output > from lsmod. Is there another program that reveals more info > related to the X server related problems? > I use the "glxinfo" utility where the first three lines are: 21:01:32 # glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes for example. Regards, Mike Klinke From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 12 02:46:57 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:46:57 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <200409112102.34559.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <41438A90.8080509@research.att.com> <414395B3.3080402@sbcglobal.net> <200409112102.34559.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <4143B8A1.5020508@sbcglobal.net> Mike Klinke wrote: > On Saturday 11 September 2004 19:17, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >>How would I know if DRI is active or not! Below is the output >>from lsmod. Is there another program that reveals more info >>related to the X server related problems? >> > > > I use the "glxinfo" utility where the first three lines are: > > > 21:01:32 # glxinfo > name of display: :0.0 > display: :0 screen: 0 > direct rendering: Yes > > > for example. > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > It appears that drm is answered no for both 16 and 24 depth settings. I set the upgraded FC3T2 version to 16 before launching and it gave me the exact symptom, a refresh problem like the fresh installation displays at the 16 depth. I added to the below report. I am not sure if this can now be determined to be an error with using a depth too low for the computer to work correctly. What are some thoughts regarding this setting that is not set high enough? Should this be a bug marked against system-config-display or xorg-x11? Jim https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131934 From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Sep 12 03:09:10 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:09:10 -0500 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <4143B8A1.5020508@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409112102.34559.lsomike@futzin.com> <4143B8A1.5020508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409112209.11234.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 11 September 2004 21:46, Jim Cornette wrote: > Mike Klinke wrote: > > On Saturday 11 September 2004 19:17, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>How would I know if DRI is active or not! Below is the output > >>from lsmod. Is there another program that reveals more info > >>related to the X server related problems? > > > > I use the "glxinfo" utility where the first three lines are: > > > > > > 21:01:32 # glxinfo > > name of display: :0.0 > > display: :0 screen: 0 > > direct rendering: Yes > > > > > > for example. > > > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > It appears that drm is answered no for both 16 and 24 depth > settings. I set the upgraded FC3T2 version to 16 before launching > and it gave me the exact symptom, a refresh problem like the > fresh installation displays at the 16 depth. > I added to the below report. I am not sure if this can now be > determined to be an error with using a depth too low for the > computer to work correctly. > > What are some thoughts regarding this setting that is not set > high enough? Should this be a bug marked against > system-config-display or xorg-x11? > > Jim > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131934 It's my understanding that the i810 driver cannot run Direct Rendering mode with bit depths greater than 16. My laptop seems to confirm this as when I change from the "Millions of Colors" to the "Thousands of Colors" choices offered by the gnome display properties the Direct Rendering Mode is always enabled with the 16 bit selection (Thousands). In additon, the operation of X is MUCH more responsive when using 16 bit. In either case, 16 or 24 bit operation, (which corresponds to DRI=yes, DRI=no respectively via gnome's automatic configuration) I don't see the same symptoms that you are seeing with the bad refresh of the screen. I have yet to see my box operate in a 16 bit/DRI=no mode and perhaps if I can get it into that state it'll reflect what you're seeing. Regards, Mike Klinke From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Sep 12 04:12:01 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:12:01 -0500 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <4143B8A1.5020508@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409112102.34559.lsomike@futzin.com> <4143B8A1.5020508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409112312.01505.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 11 September 2004 21:46, JC wrote: > > What are some thoughts regarding this setting that is not set > high enough? Should this be a bug marked against > system-config-display or xorg-x11? Well, for whatever it's worth I forced my box to operate in 16 bit/DRI=no mode. I didn't see any refresh problems like you've been describing, but then, I didn't get a long time to play since the system locked up after a few minutes of operation. I don't know if my methodoly of forcing the mode was really by the book or not; remove the DRI section of the config file and remove the "load dri" module line, so take this report with a grain of salt. If you know of a better way to accomplish this I'll be happy to give it a shot if it'll help. Regards, Mike Klinke From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Sep 12 04:37:03 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:37:03 -0500 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <4143B8A1.5020508@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409112102.34559.lsomike@futzin.com> <4143B8A1.5020508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409112337.03164.lsomike@futzin.com> Ha! I spoke a little too soon it seems. After having got the box into the 16 bit/DRI=no mode freeze-up I rebooted into FC1 (dual boot machine with FC3T1) and while there I copied the 24 bit xorg configuration for the FC3T1 back to the proper xorg.conf file in anticipation of booting back into FC3T1. When I did, what a surprise that was! There in all its ugly glory was the all the terrible refresh problems you've been describing. I'm guessing that my playing put the graphics controller into a rather unhappy state. Thankfully re-configuring the display back to "Thousands of Colors" reset everything on the next boot. I'm guessing that one of the problems that you are having is that for some reason you cannot get your box into the 16 bit/DRI=yes mode. Regards, Mike Klinke From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sun Sep 12 04:50:19 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 00:50:19 -0400 Subject: NetworkManager removes IP address from eth0 (bugzilla #132348 & #132038) Message-ID: <20040912045019.GA16025@wolves.durham.nc.us> On my test system I've had to disable NetworkManager since it removes the IPv4 address when trying to re-initialize the eth0 (tulip) device. Is anyone else seeing NM bad behaviour? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From dcbw at redhat.com Sun Sep 12 05:18:30 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: NetworkManager removes IP address from eth0 (bugzilla #132348 & #132038) In-Reply-To: <20040912045019.GA16025@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040912045019.GA16025@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: Hi, Bad behavior here means mainly: 1) NM doesn't see some of your network devices (it gets its info from HAL, so if HAL can't see your network devices, neither will NM) 2) Link checking doesn't work (you plug/unplug the cable, but nothing happens after waiting a bit) For (1), we need to fix HAL to make sure it can see the device For (2), we need to fix the kernel drivers to use netif_carrier_*() routines, but some cards don't actually support link checking and for those, we are out of luck. Dan On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > On my test system I've had to disable NetworkManager since it removes > the IPv4 address when trying to re-initialize the eth0 (tulip) device. > > Is anyone else seeing NM bad behaviour? > > -- > G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' > RHCT U > The Line Eater is a boojum! > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Sep 12 12:11:18 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:11:18 +0100 Subject: HELP! I have no sound on my machine! Message-ID: <1094991078.4589.72.camel@T7.linux> Hi, My computer has gone completely silent and it's *very* annoying! gnome-volumecontrol says that there are no sound or mixers on the machine system-config-soundcard is giving me python errors When I've run /sbin/fixfiles relabel it is coming back with the following files being missing (all in /udev) audio, dsp, fd0, loop0 - loop7, mixer If I run without selinux enabled, dsp is symlinked to /udev/audio/dsp, but still no sound In /etc/modprobe.conf the sound card appears If I run /sbin/lsmod I can see all of the sound modules have been loaded Now the fun part. If xmms runs, I'm not getting any error at all to say the soundcard has been blocked or not there. Anyone got any ideas on what can be causing the problem or if there is a config file anywhere which I can alter to get some noise going (manually set the volume controls sort of thing). I have both an intel8x0 onboard sound and Soundblaster Audigy card (set as the primary sound device) on this box. TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There in all its ugly glory was the all the > terrible refresh problems you've been describing. I'm guessing that > my playing put the graphics controller into a rather unhappy state. > Thankfully re-configuring the display back to "Thousands of Colors" > reset everything on the next boot. > > I'm guessing that one of the problems that you are having is that > for some reason you cannot get your box into the 16 bit/DRI=yes > mode. > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > Quite an ugly picture. I doubt that this performance would bring anyone over to xorg-x11. Thanks for the tests relating to dri. I use screen resolution 1280 x 1024 which is max for the monitor type that I am using. This resolution setting might have soething to do with no DRI. The 16 depth and this fair resolution seem to be the culprets. I'm happy with 24 depth and 1280 x 1024 resolution. I can live without the DRI for now. I read the info i810 documentation and saw the mention of 16 depth for DRI being a maximum setting for the 815 card. I'm glad you noticed the depth being different between the 2 xorg.conf files posted. So no DRI at 16 depth seems to be bad for performance of the X server. Jim -- You will be honored for contributing your time and skill to a worthy cause. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 12 15:15:42 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:15:42 -0400 Subject: NetworkManager removes IP address from eth0 (bugzilla #132348 & #132038) In-Reply-To: <20040912045019.GA16025@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040912045019.GA16025@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <4144681E.8040205@sbcglobal.net> Gregory Woodbury wrote: > On my test system I've had to disable NetworkManager since it removes > the IPv4 address when trying to re-initialize the eth0 (tulip) device. > > Is anyone else seeing NM bad behaviour? > I've had both of my NIC addresses removed and had to run dhclient to get the addresses there again. One occasion, I had to reset my router to get the inet addresses again. This bad behavior does not happen often and I left everything as the default settings regarding network. This probem doesn't seem to trash the upgraded system. It happens only on the fresh installation up to present. my $.02 Jim From alan at redhat.com Sun Sep 12 15:39:54 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:39:54 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <200409112209.11234.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409112102.34559.lsomike@futzin.com> <4143B8A1.5020508@sbcglobal.net> <200409112209.11234.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <20040912153954.GB908@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 10:09:10PM -0500, Mike Klinke wrote: > It's my understanding that the i810 driver cannot run Direct > Rendering mode with bit depths greater than 16. My laptop seems to > confirm this as when I change from the "Millions of Colors" to the Indeed (see man i810) From alan at redhat.com Sun Sep 12 15:41:11 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:41:11 -0400 Subject: NetworkManager removes IP address from eth0 (bugzilla #132348 & #132038) In-Reply-To: References: <20040912045019.GA16025@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <20040912154111.GC908@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 01:18:30AM -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > For (2), we need to fix the kernel drivers to use netif_carrier_*() > routines, but some cards don't actually support link checking and for > those, we are out of luck. For those you have to lob out a few dhcp packets and see what happens From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Sep 12 15:51:37 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:51:37 +0100 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev Message-ID: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I'm still trying to sort out the sound problem I'm currently experiencing on my box and I'm looking at hwbrowser. Now, the soundcards are showing up happily there as is the floppy drive (as /dev/fd0 - this is missing in /udev). There is an equivalent entry in /udev for all of my hard and optical drives (/dev/hdx etc), there isn't a /udev entry for /dev/eth0 though Is /udev supposed to be a direct mirror of /dev and is it now the case that /udev is accessed in preference to /dev (which would account for the lack of sound here - /udev/audio, /udev/dsp and /udev/mixer are all reported as being missing)? TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From steve at rueb.com Sun Sep 12 16:36:14 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:36:14 -0500 Subject: New ATI driver 3.12 and xorg 6.8.0 In-Reply-To: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> References: <4142D18F.3080601@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1095006974.19097.4.camel@voyager.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 05:21 -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > Hi, > > I have built/installed both a Fedora 6.8.0 rpm and from the src > tarball's. I cannot get 3D to work with the ATI 3.12 driver released > yesterday. > > Another observation, 6.8.0 is friggin slooooowwwwwwwwwww. > > Byte > > Works great on my Radeon 9100 with the *supported* open source drivers. This is ATI's problem and unsupported here. Ask them to release some specs. -Steve From cmkrnl at speakeasy.net Sun Sep 12 17:17:40 2004 From: cmkrnl at speakeasy.net (Andrew) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:17:40 -0400 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <414484B4.2050102@speakeasy.net> Paul, Compare the output of the following lsof | grep udev lsof | fgrep /dev also what version of udev and initscripts are you running? I know from my own personal experience running the utopia stack through its growth phase from February thru the summer, there were some issues with the "udev as dev" cut over. I'm not even sure I should have the dev package installed anymore, but anyway it is my understanding that nothing should be touching anything in /udev. Only the nodes in /dev should be used. It took me an entire eventing to 1 figure that out and 2) get all my sound things pointing back to /dev. Do you have selinux enforcing? Also wasn't there some broken-ness around the ramfs to tempfs change over for /dev and mkinitrd? That is only in the very recent updates. HTH, Andrew On my system nothing is using nodes in /udev -- # rpm -q udev udev-030-10 # rpm -q initscripts initscripts-7.73-1 (yeah I know thats 3 weeks old but.. still) they work. # lsof | fgrep /udev udevd 372 root txt REG 3,2 10324 8962153 /sbin/udevd [Just the one item] lsof | fgrep /dev | more init 1 root 10u FIFO 3,2 3218125 /dev/initctl netplugd 3112 root 0u CHR 1,3 3217216 /dev/null ... syslogd 3153 root 0u unix 0x1cac9980 5213 /dev/log slapd 3233 ldap 0u CHR 1,3 3217216 /dev/null slapd 3233 ldap 1u CHR 1,3 3217216 /dev/null ... smbd 3716 root 3r CHR 1,9 3222909 /dev/urandom .. mingetty 3823 root 0u CHR 4,1 3222006 /dev/tty1 mingetty 3823 root 1u CHR 4,1 3222006 /dev/tty1 ... mixer_app 13965 andrew 35u CHR 14,0 3213762 /dev/mixer mixer_app 13965 andrew 36u CHR 116,0 3244050 /dev/snd/controlC0 ... [the output above was trimmed down since it was several pages... you get the idea] Paul wrote: >Hi, > >I'm still trying to sort out the sound problem I'm currently >experiencing on my box and I'm looking at hwbrowser. > >Now, the soundcards are showing up happily there as is the floppy drive >(as /dev/fd0 - this is missing in /udev). There is an equivalent entry >in /udev for all of my hard and optical drives (/dev/hdx etc), there >isn't a /udev entry for /dev/eth0 though > >Is /udev supposed to be a direct mirror of /dev and is it now the case >that /udev is accessed in preference to /dev (which would account for >the lack of sound here - /udev/audio, /udev/dsp and /udev/mixer are all >reported as being missing)? > >TTFN > >Paul > > From fedora at warmcat.com Sun Sep 12 17:28:24 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 18:28:24 +0100 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <414484B4.2050102@speakeasy.net> References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> <414484B4.2050102@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <200409121828.27609.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 September 2004 18:17, Andrew wrote: > nothing should be touching anything in /udev. Only the nodes in /dev > should be used. It took me an entire eventing to 1 figure that out and > 2) get all my sound things pointing back to /dev. I wish RH would maintain a little "new technologies" page on their site, this HAL, udev, mdnsresponder etc have been showing up in FC3 and I don't have any idea what they are. The Jargon Buster on the Fedora page doesn't know what they are either. If it already exists somewhere please reply pointing to it :-) Anyway, my little store of knowledge on the subject of /dev (not udev) says that you can make device "files" anywhere, not just in /dev, and that you can have multiple device files for the same device no problem. The major and minor numbers you give mknod make the file "special" and associated with a particular kernel device driver on the kernel side, not that it is in /dev. Whether this is useful to unpicking the mysteries I am not sure. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBRIc7jKeDCxMJCTIRAoZCAKCN0A5F83/7FbmDXER/hr6+2aBmGQCfUwIZ oKPXyD7+QBFKe6A8foJXwv4= =b4eT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cmkrnl at speakeasy.net Sun Sep 12 18:13:32 2004 From: cmkrnl at speakeasy.net (Andrew) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:13:32 -0400 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <200409121828.27609.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> <414484B4.2050102@speakeasy.net> <200409121828.27609.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <414491CC.2010703@speakeasy.net> Hi, Andy Green wrote: >I wish RH would maintain a little "new technologies" page on their site, this >HAL, udev, mdnsresponder etc have been showing up in FC3 and I don't have any >idea what they are. The Jargon Buster on the Fedora page doesn't know what >they are either. If it already exists somewhere please reply pointing to >it :-) > > > Actually David Zeuthen has a lot of good stuff over at freedesktop.org especially on hal as he is the primary author. http://freedesktop.org/Software/hal http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.hal [ for the hal list ] This is where the hal developers do there thing, a lot of the dev process patches and so on, but reading helped me a lot. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/utopia-list [ for the utopia list ] for udev look at http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html Hal is great! it is one of the most important things I have seen to date (at least since RH 6) in making Linux a really usable desktop. With utopia (hal dbus and gnome-volume-manager) I can (as a non-admin) plug in my usb flash drive and it will detect, create a mount point if needed and mount it and pop window with the contents automatically -- just like other desktop OSes that are very much less than free! Plus, you can create policy rules to keep that from happening if you want to, but at least now it can work without having to either su or sudo! >Anyway, my little store of knowledge on the subject of /dev (not udev) says >that you can make device "files" anywhere, not just in /dev, and that you can >have multiple device files for the same device no problem. The major and >minor numbers you give mknod make the file "special" and associated with a >particular kernel device driver on the kernel side, not that it is in /dev. >Whether this is useful to unpicking the mysteries I am not sure. > > > Of course that's true, its just getting the the right stuff in the place the rest of the sound code is looking for them. (or making it look in the right places) Andrew >- -Andy > >- -- >http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for >your products >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFBRIc7jKeDCxMJCTIRAoZCAKCN0A5F83/7FbmDXER/hr6+2aBmGQCfUwIZ >oKPXyD7+QBFKe6A8foJXwv4= >=b4eT >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Sep 12 18:35:13 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:35:13 +0100 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <414484B4.2050102@speakeasy.net> References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> <414484B4.2050102@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <1095014113.11122.12.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > lsof | grep udev About 12 lines long > lsof | fgrep /dev Bloomin' massive, though there is only 3 or 4 lines concerning udev > also what version of udev and initscripts are you running? udev-030-24 initscripts-7.80-1 dev-3.12-1 > I know from my own personal experience running the utopia stack through > its growth phase from February thru the summer, there were some issues > with the "udev as dev" cut over. I'm not even sure I should have the > dev package installed anymore, but anyway it is my understanding that > nothing should be touching anything in /udev. Only the nodes in /dev > should be used. It took me an entire eventing to 1 figure that out and > 2) get all my sound things pointing back to /dev. How did you manage to do that? > Do you have selinux enforcing? Not sure. I'm don't have anything specified on boot up, so I'll guess at strict. However, I don't think that's really the main problem as if I run without selinux on at all, I get the same result of no sound. > Also wasn't there some broken-ness > around the ramfs to tempfs change over for /dev and mkinitrd? That is > only in the very recent updates. Which is probably what has hit me as sound was working prior to the update run on Friday night. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at warmcat.com Sun Sep 12 18:36:55 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:36:55 +0100 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <414491CC.2010703@speakeasy.net> References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> <200409121828.27609.fedora@warmcat.com> <414491CC.2010703@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <200409121936.59704.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 September 2004 19:13, Andrew wrote: > http://freedesktop.org/Software/hal > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.hal [ for the hal list ] > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/utopia-list [ for the utopia list ] > http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html Thanks for the links Andrew :-) mdnsresponder seems to be some apple-inspired zero configuration network plug and play thing: http://developer.apple.com/macosx/rendezvous/index.html Rendezvous enables automatic discovery of computers, devices, and services on IP networks. Also known as zero-configuration networking, Rendezvous uses industry standard IP protocols to allow devices to automatically find each other without the need to enter IP addresses or configure DNS servers. Rendezvous is an open protocol, which Apple has submitted to the IETF as part of the ongoing standards-creation process. In order to provide a true zero-configuration experience, Rendezvous requires that devices implement three essential things. These devices must be able to * allocate IP addresses without a DHCP server * translate between names and IP addresses without a DNS server * locate or advertise services without using a directory server - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBRJdLjKeDCxMJCTIRAvGxAJoDKpKwAmhsUcnYa+Y0fNjOU0mOpwCggRll IYVKqFy+dqMs8ahvzA1UCkY= =ATbV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alan at redhat.com Sun Sep 12 19:23:11 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:23:11 -0400 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <200409121936.59704.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> <200409121828.27609.fedora@warmcat.com> <414491CC.2010703@speakeasy.net> <200409121936.59704.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040912192311.GA17909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 07:36:55PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > http://developer.apple.com/macosx/rendezvous/index.html > > Rendezvous enables automatic discovery of computers, devices, and services on Its properly "Zeroconf". Apple got sued by Tibco over the name as Rendezvous was a Tibco trademark. The out of court settlement means Apple will be updating the name. Also Rendezvous is an applename while Zeroconf is an IETF name so more general. Alan From david at fubar.dk Sun Sep 12 19:40:40 2004 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:40:40 +0200 Subject: NetworkManager removes IP address from eth0 (bugzilla #132348 & #132038) In-Reply-To: References: <20040912045019.GA16025@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1095018040.7301.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 01:18 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > For (1), we need to fix HAL to make sure it can see the device > I believe this is the problem with the kernel module for a networking card not being loaded right? I actually thought this was recently fixed in the initscripts package with the "Initializing hardware.." stuff on boot? David From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Sep 12 20:31:25 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:31:25 -0500 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <4144658A.40104@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409112337.03164.lsomike@futzin.com> <4144658A.40104@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409121531.25391.lsomike@futzin.com> On Sunday 12 September 2004 10:04, Jim Cornette wrote: > Quite an ugly picture. I doubt that this performance would bring > anyone over to xorg-x11. > Thanks for the tests relating to dri. My pleasure! I've updated the bugzilla I started at: https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 to include the information below. Hope this will help to find the problems! ================================================ Tested three different graphics configurations: (all are at 1024x768) 16 Bit, DRI = No. 16 Bit, DRI = Yes. 24 Bit. ***************** 16 Bit, DRI = No. ***************** Open up a terminal session The sequence: Took me to the text login screen. Brought me back to the terminal session I left. During the terminal session I ran glxgears and an odd thing happened when I exited the program. Notice the last line here: ------------------------------------- [root at linmaster log]# glxgears 771 frames in 5.0 seconds = 154.200 FPS 600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 120.000 FPS 720 frames in 5.0 seconds = 144.000 FPS 600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 120.000 FPS 600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 120.000 FPS 720 frames in 5.0 seconds = 144.000 FPS 600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 120.000 FPS 600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 120.000 FPS 600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 120.000 FPS X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). --------------------------------------- The attachment in comment # contains; xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log, and dmesg ****************** 16 Bit, DRI = Yes. ****************** This is my normal setup mode. I have booted this computer 100's of times into this mode without problem until today (after the 24 Bit test below) Open up a terminal session The sequence: Took me to the text login screen. Caused the computer to lock up without re-displaying the graphical login screen. I had to reboot. The attachment in comment # contains; xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log, and dmesg ****** 24 Bit ****** This was a disaster. All the nastiness described in https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 occurred;i.e. the slowness and refresh problems. The attachment in comment # contains; xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log, and dmesg What's also puzzling, is that even the 16Bit, DRI=Yes mode above was a problem after running this configuration (slowness and refresh problems). I finally had to do a cold boot in order to restore things to working condition. (Mounting the root partition on another OS (FC1) and copying the 16 Bit, DRI=Yes Xorg.conf file into place and then reboot into Fedora Core 3 Also of note is the fact that I am certain that I've run 24 Bit graphics on an earlier version of Xorg-X11 software without problems. If it will be of use to troubleshoot this problem I'll be happy to roll back to earlier versions of Xorg-X11* software. From cmkrnl at speakeasy.net Sun Sep 12 22:07:55 2004 From: cmkrnl at speakeasy.net (Andrew) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 18:07:55 -0400 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <1095014113.11122.12.camel@T7.linux> References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> <414484B4.2050102@speakeasy.net> <1095014113.11122.12.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <4144C8BB.508@speakeasy.net> Paul wrote: > >>lsof | grep udev >> >About 12 lines long > > If none of the lines are not sound related then perhaps its not really a /udev vs /dev problem with the sound. What do you have in /proc/asound ... and what about an the output of aplay -l and aplay -L watch out for the aplay -L it outputs to stderr not stdout so I usually do a aplay -L 2>junk && less junk If that is all nicely populated and you get output from aplay -l, then I would ask if you are using ALSA output [libALSA.so] in xmms and device hw:0,0 >>I know from my own personal experience running the utopia stack through >>its growth phase from February thru the summer, there were some issues >>with the "udev as dev" cut over. I'm not even sure I should have the >>dev package installed anymore, but anyway it is my understanding that >>nothing should be touching anything in /udev. Only the nodes in /dev >>should be used. It took me an entire eventing to 1 figure that out and >>2) get all my sound things pointing back to /dev. >> > >How did you manage to do that? > > Arrgh, actually that was quite a while ago, and I was merging that in my memory -- I guess I need an upgrade --was my "fun" last week when I was getting my Softlink modem with the intel8x0m ALSA driver working -- it kept loading the modem first, so all my sound was then going to the modem and not the real sound hardware. However, I think I put a device item in my /etc/esd.conf to at least get my gnome sounds to work -- if you are a KDE guy there must be an arts equiv. If you are using gnome, maybe a esdmon /udev/dsp[ 0] or esdmon /dev/dsp[ 0] might work. If they don't exist you might try mknod using the major and minors from the /dev or /udev for the missing devices and see if it then just works. The why, of course, will be easier to find after that. > >Which is probably what has hit me as sound was working prior to the >update run on Friday night. > Ahh, the wonder and happiness of RAWHIDE! HTH, Andrew ------------------- Mine looks like this ls -la /proc/asound total 1 dr-xr-xr-x 5 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 . dr-xr-xr-x 139 root root 0 Sep 2 18:16 .. dr-xr-xr-x 7 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 card0 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 cards -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 devices -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 modules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Sep 12 17:16 nForce2 -> card0 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 oss -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 pcm dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 seq -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 timers -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 12 17:16 version cat /proc/asound/devices 0: [0- 0]: ctl 18: [0- 2]: digital audio playback 25: [0- 1]: digital audio capture 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback 24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture 33: : timer cat /proc/asound/modules 0 snd_intel8x0 cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [nForce2 ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2 NVidia nForce2 at 0xed001000, irq 5 aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: nForce2 [NVidia nForce2], device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia nForce2] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: nForce2 [NVidia nForce2], device 2: Intel ICH - IEC958 [NVidia nForce2 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 From dave at alfar.co.uk Sun Sep 12 23:45:11 2004 From: dave at alfar.co.uk (Dave) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:45:11 +0100 Subject: i2o - problems with controllers with additional memory (from fedora-list) Message-ID: <4144DF87.5050507@alfar.co.uk> (Apologies for the duplication) After trying the workaround detailed by Warren Togami in: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/msg04389.html to install Fedora Core 2 on an Adaptec 3200S (not ZCR) without any luck, I recently tried the latest Rawhide, unfortunately also without success, only to discover the problem was elsewhere. It didn't appear to be anaconda failing to detect the array, but rather the kernel failing to map the controller: PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 0000:00:09.1 i2o: I2O controller found on bus 0 at 73. i2o: PCI I2O controller at C8000000 size=134217728 i2o: Unable to map controller. i2o: DMA / IO allocation for I2O controller failed I2O controller: probe of 0000:00:09.1 failed with error -12 i2o is failing in ioremap() - VmallocTotal is 106M, so this isn't surprising. Yes, I should have spotted this originally, but it took me a Rawhide download and two days to notice. lspci gave: 00:09.0 PCI bridge: Adaptec (formerly DPT) PCI Bridge (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=64 I/O behind bridge: 0000a000-0000afff Capabilities: [68] Power Management version 2 00:09.1 I2O: Adaptec (formerly DPT) SmartRAID V Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 01) Subsystem: Adaptec (formerly DPT) 3000S Ultra3 Dual Channel Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 BIST result: 00 Memory at c8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 This appears to be the same problem reported by Markus Lidel on the LKML in June: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0406.0/0070.html The controller had 128Mb SDRAM memory module on board, I removed this module and replaced the standard 32Mb module the board would normally ship with, and the kernel was able to correctly load the module. The kernel used was 2.6.8-1.541 - I'm aware there is a slightly more recent 2.6.8-1.549 kernel outside of the development download, but wasn't going to expend the effort of rebuilding a boot CD from scratch. Ironically even Redhat 7.3 manages to detect and handle the controller with 128Mb in without issue (2.4 kernels' dpt_i2o). You'll be glad to know that anaconda in rawhide does detect the controller without the i2o_proc hoopla, though. =) I realise FC3 Test 2 was delayed, are there any i2o or ioremap changes pending that will allow me to use the controller with the larger memory module present? I guess Warren is best placed to answer this - I do now have the controller working with 32Mb, but I'm willing to cooperate with any testing the i2o on linux team might want, if only out of curiosity. The controller works on the 2.4 kernel and *cough* other operating systems without issue, so it would be nice to see the 2.6 kernel also handling this correctly. There's also a second 128Mb module here if anyone feels like seeing what 256Mb will do, probably with FC2 and an updated kernel rather than Rawhide now, though. =) -- David Zambonini From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 13 00:27:07 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:27:07 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <200409121531.25391.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409112337.03164.lsomike@futzin.com> <4144658A.40104@sbcglobal.net> <200409121531.25391.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <4144E95B.40503@sbcglobal.net> Mike Klinke wrote: > On Sunday 12 September 2004 10:04, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>Quite an ugly picture. I doubt that this performance would bring >>anyone over to xorg-x11. >>Thanks for the tests relating to dri. > > > My pleasure! > > I've updated the bugzilla I started at: > > https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 > > to include the information below. Hope this will help to find the > problems! At least I'm learning a bit about what certain settings do and how important setting a few numbers can bring down X or make it work properly. Both the man and info pages are useful for the i810 driver to some extent. Examples and specific information on the functions of commands might have been explained a bit better for the general users. I found interesting the information about the module used for your particular setup. This would give me away for running a tainted version. This was before the 24 depth setting restored functionality for the stock binaries that were compiled for this version of X. To clarify things to me, are you getting the refresh problem with setting to 24 depth? This sounds reverse to my situation. As a note: I added the DRI option to the xorg.conf file and am going to see if this allows me to see what DRI enabling will do at 16 depth on this computer. Jim X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7.99.903 ...... (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o (II) Module i810: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.3.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 From lsomike at futzin.com Mon Sep 13 03:38:22 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:38:22 -0500 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <4144E95B.40503@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409121531.25391.lsomike@futzin.com> <4144E95B.40503@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409122238.22969.lsomike@futzin.com> On Sunday 12 September 2004 19:27, Jim Cornette wrote: > > At least I'm learning a bit about what certain settings do and > how important setting a few numbers can bring down X or make it > work properly. Same here... heh... more than I was hoping for to be sure, but, it's all fun. > > Both the man and info pages are useful for the i810 driver to > some extent. Examples and specific information on the functions > of commands might have been explained a bit better for the > general users. > > I found interesting the information about the module used for > your particular setup. This would give me away for running a > tainted version. This was before the 24 depth setting restored > functionality for the stock binaries that were compiled for this > version of X. > > To clarify things to me, are you getting the refresh problem with > setting to 24 depth? This sounds reverse to my situation. Yes, the "16 Bit, DRI=yes" mode is my best mode and what I've been using exclusively for the past week or so. It's been that long since I tried 24 Bit mode and I was rather surprised to find a problem with it yesterday. I suspect something's changed with the latest version, or two, of Xorg-X11* as I was using 24 Bit a few weeks ago off and on just to check the performance differences between the two modes. > > As a note: I added the DRI option to the xorg.conf file and am > going to see if this allows me to see what DRI enabling will do > at 16 depth on this computer. I saw your notes on the freedesktop.org/bugzilla/ bugs. Pretty darned messed up, isn't it? Regards, Mike Klinke From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Sep 13 08:00:46 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:00:46 +0100 Subject: Test2 today? Message-ID: <1095062446.26680.2.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, Roughly what time will the torrent sites have the real test 2 today? I'm in the UK, so I'll guess at about 10pm tonight. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From Fred.New at microlink.ee Mon Sep 13 08:05:20 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:05:20 +0300 Subject: Test2 today? Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615F76@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 13. september 2004. a. 11:01, PFJ wrote: > Roughly what time will the torrent sites have the real test 2 > today? I'm in the UK, so I'll guess at about 10pm tonight. Wait about a week. Check out the updated schedule at http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Fred From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Sep 13 08:19:27 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:19:27 +0100 Subject: Test2 today? In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615F76@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615F76@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <1095063567.26680.22.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, > > Roughly what time will the torrent sites have the real test 2 > > today? I'm in the UK, so I'll guess at about 10pm tonight. > > Wait about a week. Check out the updated schedule at > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Blast! They've changed it again. I thought I saw a thread over the weekend saying it was going to be out today. Ah well, if it takes another week to get it right, it takes another week - quality has to be given time :-) TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Sep 13 08:49:55 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:49:55 +0200 Subject: Test2 today? In-Reply-To: <1095063567.26680.22.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615F76@eemail1.microlink.lan> <1095063567.26680.22.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <41455F33.4000101@gmx.de> PFJ wrote: >>>Roughly what time will the torrent sites have the real test 2 >>>today? I'm in the UK, so I'll guess at about 10pm tonight. >>> >>> >>Wait about a week. Check out the updated schedule at >>http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ >> >> >Blast! They've changed it again. I thought I saw a thread over the >weekend saying it was going to be out today. > >Ah well, if it takes another week to get it right, it takes another week >- quality has to be given time :-) > > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:14:24 -0400 From: Bill Nottingham To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Fedora Core 3 Schedule Update - Test 2 Delayed Due to various issues with candidate trees so far, Test 2 has been pushed out one week, to September 20th. Updated schedule is at: http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Bill From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 13 11:37:55 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 07:37:55 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <200409122238.22969.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409121531.25391.lsomike@futzin.com> <4144E95B.40503@sbcglobal.net> <200409122238.22969.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <41458693.80805@sbcglobal.net> Mike Klinke wrote: > On Sunday 12 September 2004 19:27, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>At least I'm learning a bit about what certain settings do and >>how important setting a few numbers can bring down X or make it >>work properly. > > > Same here... heh... more than I was hoping for to be sure, but, it's > all fun. > > >>Both the man and info pages are useful for the i810 driver to >>some extent. Examples and specific information on the functions >>of commands might have been explained a bit better for the >>general users. >> >>I found interesting the information about the module used for >>your particular setup. This would give me away for running a >>tainted version. This was before the 24 depth setting restored >>functionality for the stock binaries that were compiled for this >>version of X. >> >>To clarify things to me, are you getting the refresh problem with >>setting to 24 depth? This sounds reverse to my situation. > > > Yes, the "16 Bit, DRI=yes" mode is my best mode and what I've been > using exclusively for the past week or so. It's been that long > since I tried 24 Bit mode and I was rather surprised to find a > problem with it yesterday. I suspect something's changed with the > latest version, or two, of Xorg-X11* as I was using 24 Bit a few > weeks ago off and on just to check the performance differences > between the two modes. > > >>As a note: I added the DRI option to the xorg.conf file and am >>going to see if this allows me to see what DRI enabling will do >>at 16 depth on this computer. > > > I saw your notes on the freedesktop.org/bugzilla/ bugs. Pretty > darned messed up, isn't it? > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > After learning more about resolution, depth, DRI and using configuration tools vs. editing settings manually. I now plan on testing this with an 845 Graphics Controller on another computer. I hope this bug is not system-independent. This uses the i810 driver and was actually fixed with the CVS version improvements, prior to these planned tests. I plan the tests with rc2 for FC3T2 installation discs. Jim -- system-independent, adj.: Works equally poorly on all systems. From bavinic at comcast.net Mon Sep 13 13:17:57 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:17:57 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. Message-ID: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> Greatings, I am running Fedora Core 3 T1 with Kernel 2.6.8-1.541, I have a nVidia 5200 video card, and am using NVIDIA-linux-x86-1.0-6111 drivers, I did reinstsall the drivers for the new kernel as always, and my xorg.conf as also been edited as needed for teh new driver. however ever since I updated to 2.6.8-1.541 I have been having an odd problem booting, If I try to boot at run level 5 (GUI) it cannot find the screens and errors out. if I run init 3, reinstall the drivers, then run init 5 I can run and log in as always. it seems like somethings gets lost during reboot or shut down, and I cannot figure out what. This error did not happen before .541 All I get from the log file is that no screens were found. Anyone else having this problem? Thank you. BaVinic From lsomike at futzin.com Mon Sep 13 13:28:55 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:28:55 -0500 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <41458693.80805@sbcglobal.net> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409122238.22969.lsomike@futzin.com> <41458693.80805@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409130828.55559.lsomike@futzin.com> On Monday 13 September 2004 06:37, Jim Cornette wrote: > > After learning more about resolution, depth, DRI and using > configuration tools vs. editing settings manually. I now plan on > testing this with an 845 Graphics Controller on another computer. > I hope this bug is not system-independent. This uses the i810 > driver and was actually fixed with the CVS version improvements, > prior to these planned tests. I plan the tests with rc2 for FC3T2 > installation discs. > > Jim > > -- > system-independent, adj.: > Works equally poorly on all systems. That should be an interesting set of tests. Another factor may may be the revision of the Graphics Controller. If I'm not mistaken, you and someone else with the same symptoms are using a controller identified as rev 2, while I am using rev 11; (82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 11)). Just as a side note, I rolled the Xorg* stuff back to the 903-5 package set and the 24 bit problems went away for me. Regards, Mike Klinke From ellson at research.att.com Mon Sep 13 13:31:06 2004 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:31:06 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4145A11A.508@research.att.com> Jim Martin wrote: > Greatings, > > I am running Fedora Core 3 T1 with Kernel 2.6.8-1.541, I have a nVidia > 5200 video card, and am using NVIDIA-linux-x86-1.0-6111 drivers, I did > reinstsall the drivers for the new kernel as always, and my xorg.conf > as also been edited as needed for teh new driver. > > however ever since I updated to 2.6.8-1.541 I have been having an odd > problem booting, If I try to boot at run level 5 (GUI) it cannot find > the screens and errors out. if I run init 3, reinstall the drivers, > then run init 5 I can run and log in as always. it seems like > somethings gets lost during reboot or shut down, and I cannot figure > out what. This error did not happen before .541 > > All I get from the log file is that no screens were found. Anyone else > having this problem? > > Thank you. > > BaVinic > > I believe I'm seeing this too, but my system is at home so I can't retest immediately. My theory is that the NVIDIA installation script is writing something into /dev which is no longer persistent across boots. I'm fairly sure it was a recent udev change that introduced the bug, not kernel-2.6.8-1.541. John From aoliva at redhat.com Mon Sep 13 13:35:38 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 13 Sep 2004 10:35:38 -0300 Subject: dev-3.12-1 In-Reply-To: <1094897487.4712.20.camel@T7.linux> References: <1094897487.4712.20.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: On Sep 11, 2004, Paul wrote: > Just another little one. dev-3.12-1 doesn't seem to be installable. All > I get when I try to install it is that mounted devfs detected. > Any way around this? This seems to have worked for me: mkdir /tmp/root-only mount --bind / /tmp/root-only chroot /tmp/root-only up2date -u dev umount /tmp/root-only rmdir /tmp/root-only You may need additional --bind-mounting if you have say /usr or /var in separate filesystems. Just make sure you don't bind-mount /proc or /sys, otherwise dev will tell /dev is a tmpfs and refuse to install. I *hope* the absence of /proc and /sys won't prevent SELinux contexts from being set, but I'm not entirely sure. Worst case, you may have to fixfiles /dev if you ever boot without udev, so it's hopefully not a big deal. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 13:42:02 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:42:02 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910409130642366d6abf@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:17:57 -0400, Jim Martin wrote: > however ever since I updated to 2.6.8-1.541 I have been having an odd > problem booting, If I try to boot at run level 5 (GUI) it cannot find > the screens and errors out. if I run init 3, reinstall the drivers, then > run init 5 I can run and log in as always. it seems like somethings gets > lost during reboot or shut down, and I cannot figure out what. This > error did not happen before .541 > > All I get from the log file is that no screens were found. Anyone else > having this problem? The 541 kernel has some sort of issue with modprobing kernel drivers. Its not just the nvidia driver. My 541 kernel doesn't correctly modprobe the sg driver either, which my scanner needs. But if i manually modprobe the missing drivers things work. So instead of reinstalling the driver... just do this from the console as root. modprobe nvidia; init 3; init 5; exit Or add a modprobe nvidia statement in rc.local as a workaround. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 13:49:00 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:49:00 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <4145A11A.508@research.att.com> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> <4145A11A.508@research.att.com> Message-ID: <604aa791040913064931a3f3d5@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:31:06 -0400, John Ellson wrote: > Jim Martin wrote: > My theory is that the NVIDIA installation script is writing something > into /dev which is no longer > persistent across boots. I'm fairly sure it was a recent udev change > that introduced the bug, not kernel-2.6.8-1.541. i drop back to an older kernel like 535 and the problem goes away. Hard to blame it on udev. AND i see the exact same thing happening with the provided sg driver. Ive been seeing it for weeks now... -jef From bgerst at didntduck.org Mon Sep 13 13:59:47 2004 From: bgerst at didntduck.org (Brian Gerst) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:59:47 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <604aa791040913064931a3f3d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> <4145A11A.508@research.att.com> <604aa791040913064931a3f3d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4145A7D3.6000809@didntduck.org> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:31:06 -0400, John Ellson wrote: > >>Jim Martin wrote: >>My theory is that the NVIDIA installation script is writing something >>into /dev which is no longer >>persistent across boots. I'm fairly sure it was a recent udev change >>that introduced the bug, not kernel-2.6.8-1.541. > > > i drop back to an older kernel like 535 and the problem goes away. > Hard to blame it on udev. > AND i see the exact same thing happening with the provided sg driver. > Ive been seeing it for weeks now... > > -jef > > It really is udev. The initrd for the older kernel contains the version of udev/initscripts that was present when that kernel was installed. -- Brian Gerst From dwalsh at redhat.com Mon Sep 13 14:36:37 2004 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:36:37 -0400 Subject: SELinux holding up nautilus-cd-burner In-Reply-To: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> References: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4145B075.9090306@redhat.com> Jim Cornette wrote: > Just to note that the problem that I mentioned about > nautilus-cd-burner not working was caused by SELinux. A bug report has > been filed on it for FC3T2. > > Summary: right clicking on write to cd as a regular user does not work > past the part where the CD burner is supposed to be initialized. A > popup box will appear and show every time that you click on it. > > test 1; worked through nautilus, as root (gnome-terminal, su to root, > launch nautilus,navigate to iso image location, right click mouse and > select "write to CD" (This works) > > test 2: Try to do this as regular user again, watch it fail again. > Then run setenforce 0 in a root tty. Click on the popup selection > again, notice the cd is initialized and a successful burn is completed. > > Other burning software: > k3b did not work right as regular user, but did as root before > investigating these failures, > > xcdroast started to burn a CD when initially configured as root. I > died and is currently being investigate as to why it bailed shortly > after launching. > > The default SELinux configuration is being applied to this system. > (targeted/enforcing) > > Jim > > PS: X still has a refresh problem w/ the latest CVS version, for the > i815 graphics controller. I thought that it was solved w/ this build. > I did not investigate a possible SELinux connection yet for the oddity. > > This is almost certainly not an SELinux bug. Are you seeing any AVC messages in the /var/log/messages file? Have you executed a setenforce 0 and tried to write the cdrom? Dan From harald at redhat.com Mon Sep 13 15:17:06 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:17:06 +0200 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <4145B9F2.9060008@redhat.com> Paul wrote: > isn't a /udev entry for /dev/eth0 though never saw such a device node on my system... be it normal /dev or udev. on which OS did you see that? :) From harald at redhat.com Mon Sep 13 15:19:01 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:19:01 +0200 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> Jim Martin wrote: > Greatings, > > I am running Fedora Core 3 T1 with Kernel 2.6.8-1.541, I have a nVidia > 5200 video card, and am using NVIDIA-linux-x86-1.0-6111 drivers, I did > reinstsall the drivers for the new kernel as always, and my xorg.conf as > also been edited as needed for teh new driver. > > however ever since I updated to 2.6.8-1.541 I have been having an odd > problem booting, If I try to boot at run level 5 (GUI) it cannot find > the screens and errors out. if I run init 3, reinstall the drivers, then > run init 5 I can run and log in as always. it seems like somethings gets > lost during reboot or shut down, and I cannot figure out what. This > error did not happen before .541 > > All I get from the log file is that no screens were found. Anyone else > having this problem? > > Thank you. > > BaVinic > > until the X server loads the module (which it should do) try adding to /etc/rc.local: /sbin/modprobe nvidia From bavinic at comcast.net Mon Sep 13 15:29:34 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:29:34 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4145BCDE.7080004@comcast.net> As recommended by Ricardo I modified /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit with the following change echo -n $"Initializing hardware... " ide="" scsi="" network="" audio="" other="nvidia" and it works great! this is work-a-round for sure, but it is one that works. BaVinic Harald Hoyer wrote: > Jim Martin wrote: > >> Greatings, >> >> I am running Fedora Core 3 T1 with Kernel 2.6.8-1.541, I have a >> nVidia 5200 video card, and am using NVIDIA-linux-x86-1.0-6111 >> drivers, I did reinstsall the drivers for the new kernel as always, >> and my xorg.conf as also been edited as needed for teh new driver. >> >> however ever since I updated to 2.6.8-1.541 I have been having an odd >> problem booting, If I try to boot at run level 5 (GUI) it cannot find >> the screens and errors out. if I run init 3, reinstall the drivers, >> then run init 5 I can run and log in as always. it seems like >> somethings gets lost during reboot or shut down, and I cannot figure >> out what. This error did not happen before .541 >> >> All I get from the log file is that no screens were found. Anyone >> else having this problem? >> >> Thank you. >> >> BaVinic >> >> > > until the X server loads the module (which it should do) > try adding to /etc/rc.local: > > /sbin/modprobe nvidia > > From russell at coker.com.au Mon Sep 13 16:05:49 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:05:49 +1000 Subject: dev-3.12-1 In-Reply-To: References: <1094897487.4712.20.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <200409140205.49962.russell@coker.com.au> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:35, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Just make sure you don't bind-mount /proc or /sys, otherwise dev will > tell /dev is a tmpfs and refuse to install. I *hope* the absence of > /proc and /sys won't prevent SELinux contexts from being set, but I'm > not entirely sure. Worst case, you may have to fixfiles /dev if you > ever boot without udev, so it's hopefully not a big deal. /proc/mounts is read by libselinux.so to discover the mount point for selinuxfs. So without /proc you won't get SE Linux functionality. /sys should not matter for SE Linux. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From rpa4email at rogers.com Mon Sep 13 16:37:58 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:37:58 -0400 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <4145B9F2.9060008@redhat.com> References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> <4145B9F2.9060008@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095093479.9170.1.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> On Mon, 2004-13-09 at 17:17 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > never saw such a device node on my system... be it normal /dev or udev. > on which OS did you see that? :) Speaking of /udev I have the package intsalled, but I only have a /dev and no /udev Do I need to do something here? Everything seems to be working :) Rob. From michal at harddata.com Mon Sep 13 17:18:18 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:18:18 -0600 Subject: Relationship between /dev and /udev In-Reply-To: <1095093479.9170.1.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local>; from rpa4email@rogers.com on Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 12:37:58PM -0400 References: <1095004297.5060.10.camel@T7.linux> <4145B9F2.9060008@redhat.com> <1095093479.9170.1.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Message-ID: <20040913111818.A24866@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 12:37:58PM -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > > Speaking of /udev I have the package intsalled, but I only have a /dev > and no /udev There is no /udev. The conversation is about 'dev' and 'udev' packages. If you installed the later, and you _started it_, then you are using 'udev'; otherwise this is 'dev'. In practical terms, and for Fedora test installations, if '/proc/mounts' shows that something is mounted on /dev, and you see there only "some" devices instead of "the whole pile of these just in case", then you are using 'udev' as opposed to a "regular" '/dev/' tree you had for years. There is quite a bit of documentation in /usr/share/doc/udev-* which explains a number of things. Michal From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Sep 13 20:52:39 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:52:39 +0100 Subject: gconf corruption Message-ID: <1095108759.12469.20.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Under my area, just about everything is happy. Okay, some things are not working as they should, but it's generally fine. My wife logged in to her area and lots has gone wrong. From an error report, it looks like the gconf settings have become corrupt (well, that's what the gnome-theme settings reported at least). What do I need to change/delete to get gconf-editor to work again and to be able to configure things? TTFN Paul -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org Mon Sep 13 20:57:32 2004 From: prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org (Aaron Gaudio) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:57:32 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095109052.27841.9.camel@rockhopper> On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 17:19 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > until the X server loads the module (which it should do) > try adding to /etc/rc.local: > > /sbin/modprobe nvidia > > BTW, I had to do this for the i915 module on my laptop too in order to get DRM to work, despite having an alias for char-major-226 (DRM major). X shouldn't need to manually load the module (or be in the business of loading kernel modules) should it? From byte at aeon.com.my Mon Sep 13 21:26:59 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:26:59 +1000 Subject: Watchdog - i8xx_tco and reboots Message-ID: <1095110819.27996.49.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Finally giving x86 Rawhide a go (refreshing after lots of PPC?), I got the tree from 0911, and popped in on a box with the GIGABYTE '8I845GVM-RZ' i845GV No glory for me, as the box kept on rebooting in the starting stages - this means it stayed on for >60s but died <120s So, the new workaround is: * boot into single user mode * rmmod i8xx_tco * Ctrl+d * Enjoy Rawhide Is anyone else noticing these problems? Bugzilla seems rather silent about this... -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From bgerst at didntduck.org Mon Sep 13 21:45:48 2004 From: bgerst at didntduck.org (Brian Gerst) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:45:48 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <1095109052.27841.9.camel@rockhopper> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> <1095109052.27841.9.camel@rockhopper> Message-ID: <4146150C.2050803@didntduck.org> Aaron Gaudio wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 17:19 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > > >>until the X server loads the module (which it should do) >>try adding to /etc/rc.local: >> >>/sbin/modprobe nvidia >> >> > > > BTW, I had to do this for the i915 module on my laptop too in order to > get DRM to work, despite having an alias for char-major-226 (DRM major). > X shouldn't need to manually load the module (or be in the business of > loading kernel modules) should it? > > No. The idea behind udev is that it is supposed to scan all the devices present at boot time and create device nodes (aka Cold Plugging). The current scripts only scan certain classes of devices though, and video is not included. -- Brian Gerst From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 13 21:53:09 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:53:09 -0400 Subject: Crazy question regarding refresh and X In-Reply-To: <200409130828.55559.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <41436D0C.7050307@sbcglobal.net> <200409122238.22969.lsomike@futzin.com> <41458693.80805@sbcglobal.net> <200409130828.55559.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <414616C5.9030905@sbcglobal.net> Mike Klinke wrote: > On Monday 13 September 2004 06:37, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>After learning more about resolution, depth, DRI and using >>configuration tools vs. editing settings manually. I now plan on >>testing this with an 845 Graphics Controller on another computer. >>I hope this bug is not system-independent. This uses the i810 >>driver and was actually fixed with the CVS version improvements, >>prior to these planned tests. I plan the tests with rc2 for FC3T2 >>installation discs. >> >>Jim >> >>-- >>system-independent, adj.: >> Works equally poorly on all systems. > > > That should be an interesting set of tests. > > Another factor may may be the revision of the Graphics Controller. > If I'm not mistaken, you and someone else with the same symptoms > are using a controller identified as rev 2, while I am using rev > 11; (82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 11)). > > Just as a side note, I rolled the Xorg* stuff back to the 903-5 > package set and the 24 bit problems went away for me. > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > Well, the 845 Graphics card worked fairly decent. The screen resolution was set to 1280 x 1024 and DRI was active. The X server is cycling through the screensavers and the server is still running. Some of the screensavers crash, show only white and the xscreensaver daemon crashed a few times, but that's another bug. I was worried about the older random crashing of the X server, mainly triggered by noof and StarWars screensavers. What puzzles me is I was able to install on this particular computer using the GUI. It uses the i810 driver also. What other influencing factors is beyond me. The computer with the 815 chipset just presented a blank screen and froze. The relays clicked on the monitor, indicating a change in th videomode, but then it was unresponsive. I have data for the 845 card and tests that will be added to the bug report. (Switching to mingetty terminal via ctl-alt-Fn, etc) Regarding the rev 2 vs rev 11 difference, this might explain the 24 depth setting works for me vs. doe not for you. Jim From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 13 22:51:01 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:51:01 -0400 Subject: SELinux holding up nautilus-cd-burner In-Reply-To: <4145B075.9090306@redhat.com> References: <41427FAA.8030907@sbcglobal.net> <4145B075.9090306@redhat.com> Message-ID: <41462455.3060507@sbcglobal.net> Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Just to note that the problem that I mentioned about >> nautilus-cd-burner not working was caused by SELinux. A bug report has >> been filed on it for FC3T2. >> >> Summary: right clicking on write to cd as a regular user does not work >> past the part where the CD burner is supposed to be initialized. A >> popup box will appear and show every time that you click on it. >> >> test 1; worked through nautilus, as root (gnome-terminal, su to root, >> launch nautilus,navigate to iso image location, right click mouse and >> select "write to CD" (This works) >> >> test 2: Try to do this as regular user again, watch it fail again. >> Then run setenforce 0 in a root tty. Click on the popup selection >> again, notice the cd is initialized and a successful burn is completed. >> >> Other burning software: >> k3b did not work right as regular user, but did as root before >> investigating these failures, >> >> xcdroast started to burn a CD when initially configured as root. I >> died and is currently being investigate as to why it bailed shortly >> after launching. >> >> The default SELinux configuration is being applied to this system. >> (targeted/enforcing) >> >> Jim >> > This is almost certainly not an SELinux bug. Are you seeing any AVC > messages in the /var/log/messages file? 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ncoghlan at iinet.net.au Tue Sep 14 05:42:29 2004 From: ncoghlan at iinet.net.au (Nick Coghlan) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:42:29 -0700 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code Message-ID: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> Some background - I'm running FC3-test on an Asus M6BN laptop. This means the only option to get my modem and wireless card working are the drivers from Linuxant, which means I need 16k driver stacks. And that works fine - I'm currently running a patched 2.6.8.1 kernel, based on the kernel.org tarball. However, what I would prefer is to start with the source code and .config used to build the current FC3 kernel. `yum info kernel` shows 2.6.8-1.541 living in the `development` repository. `yum info kernel-source` shows only a 2.6.6 kernel version, living in `fedora-updates-testing`. The 541 src RPM from fedora.redhat.com drops a vanilla tarball, and a collection of patch & config files into /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES, but doesn't seem to give any guidance on combining those into a given kernel version. I would assume it is important to at least apply the patches in the correct order (which may or may not be alphabetical order). Am I missing something obvious here? Cheers, Nick. From arjanv at redhat.com Tue Sep 14 05:56:59 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:56:59 +0200 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1095141417.2698.9.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 07:42, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Some background - I'm running FC3-test on an Asus M6BN laptop. This > means the only option to get my modem are you sure? what's the pci id of the modem, does the snd-intel8x0m driver recognize it? if so you can use it natively in linux without evil binary kernel modules -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ncoghlan at iinet.net.au Tue Sep 14 08:47:53 2004 From: ncoghlan at iinet.net.au (Nick Coghlan) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:47:53 -0700 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <1095141417.2698.9.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <1095141417.2698.9.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <4146B039.7070203@iinet.net.au> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 07:42, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >>Some background - I'm running FC3-test on an Asus M6BN laptop. This >>means the only option to get my modem > > > are you sure? what's the pci id of the modem, does the snd-intel8x0m > driver recognize it? It's a lovely Conexant soft modem, which as far as I know snd-intel8x0m can't support because the codec is proprietary (certainly, FC3-test1 didn't even think I *had* a modem, until after I installed the linuxant driver) > if so you can use it natively in linux without evil > binary kernel modules Heck, I'm using a Windows driver binary to talk to the builtin wireless interface. The linuxant drivers are the least of my worries ;) As I see it, Linuxant are doing me a favour by letting me use the OS of my choice on the hardware of my choice, despite the recalcitrance of a couple of hardware vendors (well, just Intel actually, since they make both the modem and the wireless hardware). Cheers, Nick. From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Tue Sep 14 10:54:48 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:54:48 +0100 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <20040914105448.GA17854@nsk.no-ip.org> On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:42:29PM -0700, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Some background - I'm running FC3-test on an Asus M6BN laptop. This > means the only option to get my modem and wireless card working are the > drivers from Linuxant, which means I need 16k driver stacks. > > And that works fine - I'm currently running a patched 2.6.8.1 kernel, > based on the kernel.org tarball. > > However, what I would prefer is to start with the source code and > .config used to build the current FC3 kernel. > > `yum info kernel` shows 2.6.8-1.541 living in the `development` repository. > > `yum info kernel-source` shows only a 2.6.6 kernel version, living in > `fedora-updates-testing`. > > The 541 src RPM from fedora.redhat.com drops a vanilla tarball, and a > collection of patch & config files into /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES, but > doesn't seem to give any guidance on combining those into a given kernel > version. I would assume it is important to at least apply the patches in > the correct order (which may or may not be alphabetical order). It also drops a spec file into /usr/src/redhat/SPECS. It has instructions on how to build the package. If you want to "prepare" the package (extract the sources and patch them), run rpmbuild -bp /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel* The "prepared" source will end in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel* (-bc to compile, -bb to generate a rpm package) Regards, Luciano Rocha From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Tue Sep 14 10:56:36 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:56:36 +0100 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <20040914105448.GA17854@nsk.no-ip.org> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <20040914105448.GA17854@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <20040914105636.GA24797@nsk.no-ip.org> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:54:48AM +0100, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:42:29PM -0700, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > Some background - I'm running FC3-test on an Asus M6BN laptop. This > > means the only option to get my modem and wireless card working are the > > drivers from Linuxant, which means I need 16k driver stacks. > > > > And that works fine - I'm currently running a patched 2.6.8.1 kernel, > > based on the kernel.org tarball. > > > > However, what I would prefer is to start with the source code and > > .config used to build the current FC3 kernel. > > > > `yum info kernel` shows 2.6.8-1.541 living in the `development` repository. > > > > `yum info kernel-source` shows only a 2.6.6 kernel version, living in > > `fedora-updates-testing`. > > > > The 541 src RPM from fedora.redhat.com drops a vanilla tarball, and a > > collection of patch & config files into /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES, but > > doesn't seem to give any guidance on combining those into a given kernel > > version. I would assume it is important to at least apply the patches in > > the correct order (which may or may not be alphabetical order). > > It also drops a spec file into /usr/src/redhat/SPECS. > > It has instructions on how to build the package. If you want to > "prepare" the package (extract the sources and patch them), run > rpmbuild -bp /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel* > > The "prepared" source will end in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel* > > (-bc to compile, -bb to generate a rpm package) > I forgot, add a --target i686 option to rpmbuild. -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. From perbj at stanford.edu Tue Sep 14 16:26:36 2004 From: perbj at stanford.edu (Per Bjornsson) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:26:36 -0700 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <4146B039.7070203@iinet.net.au> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <1095141417.2698.9.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <4146B039.7070203@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1095179196.2701.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 01:47, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Heck, I'm using a Windows driver binary to talk to the builtin wireless > interface. The linuxant drivers are the least of my worries ;) > > As I see it, Linuxant are doing me a favour by letting me use the OS of > my choice on the hardware of my choice, despite the recalcitrance of a > couple of hardware vendors (well, just Intel actually, since they make > both the modem and the wireless hardware). Hang on here - you're saying Intel made the modem and the wireless interface? I really thought that the only modems Intel made were the ones built into the southbridge (AC-97 modems which should work with the ALSA drivers) and, perhaps more importantly, that the only wireless cards they made were the ones that are part of the Centrino package? (Actually I think I've heard of a standalone card which is actually based on the same wireless chipset as the Centrino on-board one but with a different model number, but whatever...) In any case, the Centrino wireless does have native Linux drivers nowadays, there are supposedly functional drivers both for the IPW2100 (802.11b) and IPW2200 (80211g). Check out http://ipw2100.sf.net and http://ipw2200.sf.net if you actually have a Centrino notebook; also, there are bound to be RPMs for the drivers around if you want (don't have a Centrino so I haven't checked, but I bet someone is going to answer this post, or just search the mailing list archives...) I don't necessarily like everything Intel does, but in the wireless business they have turned around (after some initial reluctance) and become model citizens of the Linux community! Cheers, Per -- Per Bjornsson Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University From alan at redhat.com Tue Sep 14 16:32:41 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:32:41 -0400 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <1095179196.2701.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <1095141417.2698.9.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <4146B039.7070203@iinet.net.au> <1095179196.2701.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040914163241.GA27852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 09:26:36AM -0700, Per Bjornsson wrote: > Hang on here - you're saying Intel made the modem and the wireless > interface? I really thought that the only modems Intel made were the Intel make the DMA interface and glue, other people make the analogue gunge both for modem and audio. Alan -- "sometimes I feel like the only progress society has made in the last 5000 years is the shift from blunt to sharp objects" -- Rik van Riel From prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org Tue Sep 14 16:37:51 2004 From: prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org (Aaron Gaudio) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:37:51 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <4146150C.2050803@didntduck.org> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> <1095109052.27841.9.camel@rockhopper> <4146150C.2050803@didntduck.org> Message-ID: <1095179871.27841.31.camel@rockhopper> On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 17:45 -0400, Brian Gerst wrote: > No. The idea behind udev is that it is supposed to scan all the devices > present at boot time and create device nodes (aka Cold Plugging). The > current scripts only scan certain classes of devices though, and video > is not included. However, if I have char-major-226 listed as an alias in modprobe.conf, when X tries to open a device node with char major 226, shouldn't the kernel attempt to automount that alias, or is that not supported anymore? From arjanv at redhat.com Tue Sep 14 16:50:12 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:50:12 +0200 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <1095179871.27841.31.camel@rockhopper> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> <1095109052.27841.9.camel@rockhopper> <4146150C.2050803@didntduck.org> <1095179871.27841.31.camel@rockhopper> Message-ID: <1095180612.2698.31.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:37, Aaron Gaudio wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 17:45 -0400, Brian Gerst wrote: > > > No. The idea behind udev is that it is supposed to scan all the devices > > present at boot time and create device nodes (aka Cold Plugging). The > > current scripts only scan certain classes of devices though, and video > > is not included. > > However, if I have char-major-226 listed as an alias in modprobe.conf, > when X tries to open a device node with char major 226, shouldn't the > kernel attempt to automount that alias, or is that not supported > anymore? with udev the device node only gets created on driver load.... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From swardell at team.bantu.com Tue Sep 14 17:04:10 2004 From: swardell at team.bantu.com (Steve Wardell) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:04:10 -0400 Subject: Remote Login in FC3T2? Message-ID: <4147248A.7050704@team.bantu.com> In installing the FC3T2 09.08 prerelease I've noticed the nice remote assistance through VNC support thou was wondering if the remote login (ala terminal services) with VNC made it in this test release or what the status of this item was that Mark McLoughlin was working on. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-June/msg00007.html This is a great item that I'm sure many are looking forward to landing if it hasn't. Thanks, Steve From bgerst at didntduck.org Tue Sep 14 17:41:21 2004 From: bgerst at didntduck.org (Brian Gerst) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:41:21 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <1095179871.27841.31.camel@rockhopper> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> <1095109052.27841.9.camel@rockhopper> <4146150C.2050803@didntduck.org> <1095179871.27841.31.camel@rockhopper> Message-ID: <41472D41.4080402@didntduck.org> Aaron Gaudio wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 17:45 -0400, Brian Gerst wrote: > > >>No. The idea behind udev is that it is supposed to scan all the devices >>present at boot time and create device nodes (aka Cold Plugging). The >>current scripts only scan certain classes of devices though, and video >>is not included. > > > However, if I have char-major-226 listed as an alias in modprobe.conf, > when X tries to open a device node with char major 226, shouldn't the > kernel attempt to automount that alias, or is that not supported > anymore? > The problem is that there is no device node to open. It hasn't been created and won't be until the module is loaded. Catch-22. -- Brian Gerst From prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org Tue Sep 14 17:48:14 2004 From: prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org (Aaron Gaudio) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:48:14 -0400 Subject: ODD NVIDIA GUI booting problem. In-Reply-To: <1095180612.2698.31.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <41459E05.9060905@comcast.net> <4145BA65.6030907@redhat.com> <1095109052.27841.9.camel@rockhopper> <4146150C.2050803@didntduck.org> <1095179871.27841.31.camel@rockhopper> <1095180612.2698.31.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <1095184094.27841.37.camel@rockhopper> On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:50 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:37, Aaron Gaudio wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 17:45 -0400, Brian Gerst wrote: > > > > > No. The idea behind udev is that it is supposed to scan all the devices > > > present at boot time and create device nodes (aka Cold Plugging). The > > > current scripts only scan certain classes of devices though, and video > > > is not included. > > > > However, if I have char-major-226 listed as an alias in modprobe.conf, > > when X tries to open a device node with char major 226, shouldn't the > > kernel attempt to automount that alias, or is that not supported > > anymore? > > with udev the device node only gets created on driver load.... > Ah, I get it. I'm an old devfs user from back in the day, but never took the time to look into how udev operates. From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Tue Sep 14 18:08:56 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:08:56 +0100 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <1095179196.2701.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <1095141417.2698.9.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <4146B039.7070203@iinet.net.au> <1095179196.2701.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040914180856.GA1651@nsk.no-ip.org> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 09:26:36AM -0700, Per Bjornsson wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 01:47, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > Heck, I'm using a Windows driver binary to talk to the builtin wireless > > interface. The linuxant drivers are the least of my worries ;) > > > > As I see it, Linuxant are doing me a favour by letting me use the OS of > > my choice on the hardware of my choice, despite the recalcitrance of a > > couple of hardware vendors (well, just Intel actually, since they make > > both the modem and the wireless hardware). > > Hang on here - you're saying Intel made the modem and the wireless > interface? I really thought that the only modems Intel made were the > ones built into the southbridge (AC-97 modems which should work with the > ALSA drivers) and, perhaps more importantly, that the only wireless > cards they made were the ones that are part of the Centrino package? > (Actually I think I've heard of a standalone card which is actually > based on the same wireless chipset as the Centrino on-board one but with > a different model number, but whatever...) It's not on-board. It's a plugin card, mini-pci. To be labled a centrino, though, the computer must have a intel designated wireless card. > In any case, the Centrino > wireless does have native Linux drivers nowadays, there are supposedly > functional drivers both for the IPW2100 (802.11b) and IPW2200 (80211g). > Check out http://ipw2100.sf.net and http://ipw2200.sf.net if you > actually have a Centrino notebook; also, there are bound to be RPMs for > the drivers around if you want (don't have a Centrino so I haven't > checked, but I bet someone is going to answer this post, or just search > the mailing list archives...) > > I don't necessarily like everything Intel does, but in the wireless > business they have turned around (after some initial reluctance) and > become model citizens of the Linux community! > > Cheers, > Per > > -- > Per Bjornsson > Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. From markmc at redhat.com Tue Sep 14 18:47:51 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:47:51 +0100 Subject: Remote Login in FC3T2? In-Reply-To: <4147248A.7050704@team.bantu.com> References: <4147248A.7050704@team.bantu.com> Message-ID: <1095187670.8719.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Him On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:04, Steve Wardell wrote: > In installing the FC3T2 09.08 prerelease I've noticed the nice remote > assistance through VNC support thou was wondering if the remote login > (ala terminal services) with VNC made it in this test release or what > the status of this item was that Mark McLoughlin was working on. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-June/msg00007.html > > This is a great item that I'm sure many are looking forward to landing > if it hasn't. No, its unlikely to be in FC3 at this point. See: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-August/msg00075.html Cheers, Mark. From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue Sep 14 19:49:02 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:49:02 -0400 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:42:29PM -0700, Nick Coghlan wrote: > The 541 src RPM from fedora.redhat.com drops a vanilla tarball, and a > collection of patch & config files into /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES, but > doesn't seem to give any guidance on combining those into a given kernel > version. I would assume it is important to at least apply the patches in > the correct order (which may or may not be alphabetical order). > Am I missing something obvious here? I dunno if it's obvious if you're not expecting it, but: source RPMs don't work like binary RPMs. They contain the files from which binary RPMs are generated, and when you "install" one, instead of putting files into the system's RPM database, it just dumps them into your RPM build area. And since you haven't configured it otherwise, it uses the systemwide default. The default, it turns out is bad (and basically there due to a long legacy). What you want to do is set up a buildtree in your own home directory -- there's excellent instructions here: . Then, install the source RPM *not as root*, and edit the spec file to include your local patches, and rebuild. Voila, a new binary RPM kernel package which you can install. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From lotas at lotas-smartman.net Tue Sep 14 20:21:25 2004 From: lotas at lotas-smartman.net (Tiernan OToole) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:21:25 +0100 Subject: Multi Wan Question Message-ID: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA769@server01.lotas-smartman.local> I am hoping someone can help me here. I am looking for a way to have multiple (2 in this case) WAN connections (Cable modems, again in my case) on a Linux box. I have seen other ideas around, but I hope that Fedora has the solution I need: ease of setup. I don't have a lot of time to be messing with the system, so I would like it to be installed and forgotten. Maybe one or two tweaks but with a GUI and quick. Thanks in advance. Tiernan O'Toole, MCP www.lotas-smartman.net www.the-hairy-one.com www.lsn-blog.tk From alan at redhat.com Tue Sep 14 20:37:25 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:37:25 -0400 Subject: Multi Wan Question In-Reply-To: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA769@server01.lotas-smartman.local> References: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA769@server01.lotas-smartman.local> Message-ID: <20040914203725.GE4100@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 09:21:25PM +0100, Tiernan OToole wrote: > I am hoping someone can help me here. I am looking for a way to have > multiple (2 in this case) WAN connections (Cable modems, again in my > case) on a Linux box. I have seen other ideas around, but I hope that All modern Linux will do it nobody afaik has every done a fancy GUI tool for the job. Needs a mix of "ip route" and "ip table" From lotas at lotas-smartman.net Tue Sep 14 20:42:19 2004 From: lotas at lotas-smartman.net (Tiernan OToole) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:42:19 +0100 Subject: Multi Wan Question Message-ID: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA76A@server01.lotas-smartman.local> Thanks for that. Anyone have any documentation for setting this up specifically on Fedora? Tiernan O'Toole, MCP www.lotas-smartman.net www.the-hairy-one.com www.lsn-blog.tk -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: 14 September 2004 21:37 To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Multi Wan Question On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 09:21:25PM +0100, Tiernan OToole wrote: > I am hoping someone can help me here. I am looking for a way to have > multiple (2 in this case) WAN connections (Cable modems, again in my > case) on a Linux box. I have seen other ideas around, but I hope that All modern Linux will do it nobody afaik has every done a fancy GUI tool for the job. Needs a mix of "ip route" and "ip table" -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From gcarter at aesgi.com Tue Sep 14 20:47:01 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:47:01 -0500 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> I am not sure I agree with that notion of non root security locality when dealing with OS source code. For one thing, it makes no sense to have any OS code running outside of a primary security or root zone. With the possible exception of virtualizing the kernel source/binaries under a execution context. (i.e. vmware, UML...etc). I would be OK with that as long as user space edits of the kernel where only distributed as binaries in root space. But, having as you suggest a user space kernel tree from which to maintain system intergrity, binary or otherwise in building a system I think is fool hardy. You should have a source tree that is in root space that is seperate from user space. The root space is a reference point for compiling system software, in a predictable security context. (i.e. root.) Developers or users should not be permitted into that space, only sysadmins. I think this is for obvious reasons so I won't spell them out unless asked too. :-) -gc Matthew Miller wrote: >On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:42:29PM -0700, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > >>The 541 src RPM from fedora.redhat.com drops a vanilla tarball, and a >>collection of patch & config files into /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES, but >>doesn't seem to give any guidance on combining those into a given kernel >>version. I would assume it is important to at least apply the patches in >>the correct order (which may or may not be alphabetical order). >>Am I missing something obvious here? >> >> > >I dunno if it's obvious if you're not expecting it, but: source RPMs don't >work like binary RPMs. They contain the files from which binary RPMs are >generated, and when you "install" one, instead of putting files into the >system's RPM database, it just dumps them into your RPM build area. And >since you haven't configured it otherwise, it uses the systemwide default. > >The default, it turns out is bad (and basically there due to a long >legacy). What you want to do is set up a buildtree in your own home >directory -- there's excellent instructions here: >. Then, install the source RPM >*not as root*, and edit the spec file to include your local patches, and >rebuild. Voila, a new binary RPM kernel package which you can install. > > > > From ben.steeves at gmail.com Tue Sep 14 20:47:18 2004 From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:47:18 -0300 Subject: Multi Wan Question In-Reply-To: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA76A@server01.lotas-smartman.local> References: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA76A@server01.lotas-smartman.local> Message-ID: <7ebb24d104091413471c2ff2bd@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:42:19 +0100, Tiernan OToole wrote: > Thanks for that. Anyone have any documentation for setting this up > specifically on Fedora? > Setting up two should be no different than setting up one. What specifically are you having trouble with? What specifically do you want to accomplish by doing this? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at gmail.com against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/bcs / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org Tue Sep 14 21:00:34 2004 From: prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org (Aaron Gaudio) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:00:34 -0400 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> Message-ID: <1095195634.27841.51.camel@rockhopper> On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 15:47 -0500, Gregory G Carter wrote: > I am not sure I agree with that notion of non root security locality > when dealing with OS source code. > I'm not sure of the relevance of this post to the previous, unless I'm missing something, but I definitely agree that when building rpms, one should use a non-root account. The primary reason is this: some (many?) srpms are not spec'd properly and will attempt to alter your actual system (e.g. install into /usr instead of /tmp/%{buildroot}/usr). If you are a normal user, this will cause the build process to break and you'll realize that had you been running as root, the process would appear to have worked correctly while in fact now it may have installed files you didn't want to install; or worse (blown away files you desperately need, etc.). I don't see any reason to treat the kernel srpm any differently. Once installed, the binary rpms will be installed as root, along with any source code/include files that go along with it. From gcarter at aesgi.com Tue Sep 14 21:52:00 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:52:00 -0500 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <1095195634.27841.51.camel@rockhopper> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> <1095195634.27841.51.camel@rockhopper> Message-ID: <41476800.907@aesgi.com> Aaron Gaudio wrote: >On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 15:47 -0500, Gregory G Carter wrote: > > >>I am not sure I agree with that notion of non root security locality >>when dealing with OS source code. >> >> >> > >I'm not sure of the relevance of this post to the previous, unless I'm >missing something, but I definitely agree that when building rpms, one >should use a non-root account. The primary reason is this: some (many?) >srpms are not spec'd properly and will attempt to alter your actual >system (e.g. install into /usr instead of /tmp/%{buildroot}/usr). If you >are a normal user, this will cause the build process to break and you'll >realize that had you been running as root, the process would appear to >have worked correctly while in fact now it may have installed files you >didn't want to install; or worse (blown away files you desperately need, >etc.). > >I don't see any reason to treat the kernel srpm any differently. Once >installed, the binary rpms will be installed as root, along with any >source code/include files that go along with it. > > > > I see lots of reasons to treat kernel source code differently. I do not agree, especially in the context of a devlopment release of an Operating System product. One source tree should be in root context, the other in userland and the two should not be shared as you suggest, for the same purpose. As for the "not spec'ed properly" arguement, if you do not understand how to pull configuration information out of a source rpm before installing it, you should probably wait for the binaries or do some prudent reading. (i.e. http://www.rpm.org/) -gc From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Tue Sep 14 22:20:02 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:20:02 +0100 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <1095195634.27841.51.camel@rockhopper> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> <1095195634.27841.51.camel@rockhopper> Message-ID: <20040914222002.GA6457@nsk.no-ip.org> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 05:00:34PM -0400, Aaron Gaudio wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 15:47 -0500, Gregory G Carter wrote: > > I am not sure I agree with that notion of non root security locality > > when dealing with OS source code. > > > > I'm not sure of the relevance of this post to the previous, unless I'm > missing something, but I definitely agree that when building rpms, one > should use a non-root account. The primary reason is this: some (many?) > srpms are not spec'd properly and will attempt to alter your actual > system (e.g. install into /usr instead of /tmp/%{buildroot}/usr). If you > are a normal user, this will cause the build process to break and you'll > realize that had you been running as root, the process would appear to > have worked correctly while in fact now it may have installed files you > didn't want to install; or worse (blown away files you desperately need, > etc.). Not possible. Some rpms try to change owners and permisssions on the installed files, and will fail if not run as root. Regards, Luciano Rocha -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. From prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org Tue Sep 14 22:17:27 2004 From: prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org (Aaron Gaudio) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:17:27 -0400 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <41476800.907@aesgi.com> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> <1095195634.27841.51.camel@rockhopper> <41476800.907@aesgi.com> Message-ID: <1095200247.3695.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 16:52 -0500, Gregory G Carter wrote: > I see lots of reasons to treat kernel source code differently. > > I do not agree, especially in the context of a devlopment release of an > Operating System product. > > One source tree should be in root context, the other in userland and the > two should not be shared as you suggest, for the same purpose. Why do you need to build a kernel srpm tree in root context? I mean, if you're leaving a source tree sitting around, unpackaged, then yes, but realize it's not doing anything other than providing reference (or convenience if you decide you really did need that module you disabled). When I have a source tree sitting around in /usr/src/linux, yes of course it is owned by root. But what does that have to do with the kernel srpm? In that case, the source tree is blown away after the binary rpms are built. > > As for the "not spec'ed properly" arguement, if you do not understand > how to pull configuration information out of a source rpm before > installing it, you should probably wait for the binaries or do some > prudent reading. No, the problem is typically with 3rd parties who produce sprms without fully understanding or realizing the principles governing various aspects of rpm building. For instance, a package not properly using autoconf may have makefiles that install into /usr/local and don't use the standard PREFIX variable to redirect them during install. Or, more esoterically, when installing scrollkeeper files, even when under /var/tmp/%{buildroot}, scrollkeeper seems to want to update the global indices, which normal users don't have write access too. Maybe there is an option to prevent this, but in my experience not many packages which use scrollkeeper use such an option. Now, why would I want to go to the bother of scanning every possible srpm and source tree to catch these instances just because for some reason I decided to build all my sprms as root, when I can build as a user and be relatively sure that my system won't get fscked up? -- Aaron Gaudio From prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org Tue Sep 14 22:28:37 2004 From: prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org (Aaron Gaudio) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:28:37 -0400 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <20040914222002.GA6457@nsk.no-ip.org> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> <1095195634.27841.51.camel@rockhopper> <20040914222002.GA6457@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <1095200917.3695.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 23:20 +0100, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote: > Not possible. Some rpms try to change owners and permisssions on the > installed files, and will fail if not run as root. That's a bad srpm, it shouldn't do that. You can specify ownership within the spec file, and rpm will change ownership/permissions when the binary rpm is installed. -- Aaron Gaudio From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue Sep 14 23:03:29 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:03:29 -0400 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> Message-ID: <20040914230329.GA17286@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 03:47:01PM -0500, Gregory G Carter wrote: > For one thing, it makes no sense to have any OS code running outside of > a primary security or root zone. With the possible exception of > virtualizing the kernel source/binaries under a execution context. > (i.e. vmware, UML...etc). I think you're confusing "running" and "building". There's no reason to _ever_ run a compiler as root. This is just generally good security practice -- use only the highest level of privledge required. If you don't need to be root to do something, don't be. > I would be OK with that as long as user space edits of the kernel where > only distributed as binaries in root space. And I'm not even sure this sentence makes any sense. :) > But, having as you suggest a user space kernel tree from which to > maintain system intergrity, binary or otherwise in building a system I > think is fool hardy. > You should have a source tree that is in root space that is seperate > from user space. I don't see any advantage in this at all. However, if you want to create a separate "rpmbuilder" account in which you build your packages, fine -- but there's absolutely no reason to give it root privileges. > The root space is a reference point for compiling system software, in a > predictable security context. (i.e. root.) Root is *less* predictable. That's the point. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue Sep 14 23:05:46 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:05:46 -0400 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <20040914222002.GA6457@nsk.no-ip.org> References: <414684C5.8000603@iinet.net.au> <20040914194902.GA8631@jadzia.bu.edu> <414758C5.3010509@aesgi.com> <1095195634.27841.51.camel@rockhopper> <20040914222002.GA6457@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <20040914230546.GB17286@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:20:02PM +0100, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote: > Not possible. Some rpms try to change owners and permisssions on the > installed files, and will fail if not run as root. Put plainly, those spec files are broken and should be fixed. RPM has mechanisms for doing this right (in the %files section). -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Tue Sep 14 23:21:53 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <20040914222002.GA6457@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <20040914232153.5576.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> >Not possible. Some rpms try to change owners and permisssions on the >installed files, and will fail if not run as root. These are broken. I have submitted patch after patch to fix every one of them that I can find. If you know of any, please let me know (off the list) and I will personally put the patch into bugzilla. You should never ever build rpms as root. Your whole box can be messed up by one bad package. Most rpms in fedora are in good shape, its the little used ones you download from somebody's homepage that is most likely to give you a bad day. Who cares what acct kernel source is under? You should always install it fresh when you are building and then delete it. If you really care about security, you won't install it to /usr/src anyways, you tweak your %_topdir variable in .rpmmacros in your home directory (not the /usr/lib/rpm/rpmmacros) to point to a place within your home directory. You should never use /usr/src for any serious work. Problem solved. -Steve Grubb _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu Wed Sep 15 00:14:53 2004 From: wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (Wes Shull) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:14:53 -0700 Subject: Multi Wan Question In-Reply-To: <20040914222018.4C50D731DC@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040914222018.4C50D731DC@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409141714.53293.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> "Tiernan OToole" asked: > I am looking for a way to have multiple (2 in this case) WAN connections > (Cable modems, again in my case) on a Linux box. Two interfaces that connect to totally separate networks, not a problem; just configure the interfaces normally and you're done. Two interfaces that connect to the same place (the internet), well that's a little different. http://lartc.org/ is the documentation you want to read. Chapter 4, specifically, but you will find reading the whole thing to be a mind-expanding experience. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 15 03:15:39 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:15:39 -0400 Subject: Radeon 7200 - locks up during initializing Message-ID: <4147B3DB.10907@sbcglobal.net> Just to note that I decided to try a video card that was laying around. The card was an ATI radeon. This card does not work very well with the radeon driver. I had to resort to the vesa driver for the time being. The PCI card has 32 MB for memory. This being on the same computer that the 815 card is part of the motherboard, is there any need to disable any settings in BIOS? I had the video recognition set to auto. The effects are that card comes up in the uper left corner and does not cover more than 3/4 of the display. I collected data regarding the radeon driver causing problems, but wanted to know if there were any settings that might be causing this sort of problem. Attached is lspci output. 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When I run it from > a xterm I get this: > > [kevin at dhcp024-208-178-227 ~]$ gnucash > ERROR: In procedure open-file: > ERROR: No such file or directory: "/usr/share/guile/slib/mklibcat" > [kevin at dhcp024-208-178-227 ~]$ Crap, right off of google one must run gnucash once as root first. http://www.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2004-March/009825.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Although it looks like the ipw2200 driver is getting close enough to fully functional that I could use that instead of the NDIS driver (last time I looked at ipw2200 was a few months ago, at which point they barely had it talking to the hardware). Who knows - by the time FC3 proper comes around, the kernel might have native 2200BG support :) Cheers, Nick. From lotas at lotas-smartman.net Wed Sep 15 05:34:55 2004 From: lotas at lotas-smartman.net (Tiernan OToole) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:34:55 +0100 Subject: Multi Wan Question Message-ID: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA76B@server01.lotas-smartman.local> Well, I haven't tried yet, I'm just checking if it would work first. I would like the machine set as a router for the rest of my network. Basically load balancing the traffic in and out of the network. I run a web server and mail server from home and the web server is starting to use a lot of traffic. That's why 2 connections are better then one. Tiernan O'Toole, MCP www.lotas-smartman.net www.the-hairy-one.com www.lsn-blog.tk -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ben Steeves Sent: 14 September 2004 21:47 To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Multi Wan Question On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:42:19 +0100, Tiernan OToole wrote: > Thanks for that. Anyone have any documentation for setting this up > specifically on Fedora? > Setting up two should be no different than setting up one. What specifically are you having trouble with? What specifically do you want to accomplish by doing this? -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at gmail.com against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/bcs / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed Sep 15 07:19:03 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:19:03 +0200 Subject: Multi Wan Question In-Reply-To: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA769@server01.lotas-smartman.local> References: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA769@server01.lotas-smartman.local> Message-ID: <1095232743.4751.21.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Tiernan, On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 22:21, Tiernan OToole wrote: > I am hoping someone can help me here. I am looking for a way to have > multiple (2 in this case) WAN connections (Cable modems, again in my > case) on a Linux box. This question is more appropriate on fedora-list at redhat.com. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From wtogami at redhat.com Wed Sep 15 09:46:56 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:46:56 -1000 Subject: i2o - problems with controllers with additional memory (from fedora-list) In-Reply-To: <4144DF87.5050507@alfar.co.uk> References: <4144DF87.5050507@alfar.co.uk> Message-ID: <41480F90.3030307@redhat.com> Dave wrote: > > The controller had 128Mb SDRAM memory module on board, I removed this > module and replaced the standard 32Mb module the board would normally > ship with, and the kernel was able to correctly load the module. > > The kernel used was 2.6.8-1.541 - I'm aware there is a slightly more > recent 2.6.8-1.549 kernel outside of the development download, but > wasn't going to expend the effort of rebuilding a boot CD from scratch. > > Ironically even Redhat 7.3 manages to detect and handle the controller > with 128Mb in without issue (2.4 kernels' dpt_i2o). You'll be glad to > know that anaconda in rawhide does detect the controller without the > i2o_proc hoopla, though. =) Yes, the latest upstream kernel now provides suitable /sys entries implemented by Markus, and Jeremy wrote the kudzu hooks for anaconda's partition detection. Seems to work great so far. > > I realise FC3 Test 2 was delayed, are there any i2o or ioremap changes > pending that will allow me to use the controller with the larger memory > module present? > > I guess Warren is best placed to answer this - I do now have the > controller working with 32Mb, but I'm willing to cooperate with any > testing the i2o on linux team might want, if only out of curiosity. The > controller works on the 2.4 kernel and *cough* other operating systems > without issue, so it would be nice to see the 2.6 kernel also handling > this correctly. There's also a second 128Mb module here if anyone feels > like seeing what 256Mb will do, probably with FC2 and an updated kernel > rather than Rawhide now, though. =) > Interesting, thank you for the report and willingness to help in testing to fix this problem. AFAIK there are currently no pending kernel patches heading toward upstream, but it should be possible to fix your problem if we manage to get the fix into the upstream kernel within the next few days. The timetable before Test3 is very short, so we may need to target this fix for FC3 final. Please talk directly with Markus Lidel and send him as much information as possible. It would help immensely if you could install FC3 onto an IDE disk and allow him to ssh into the machine, so he can test candidate fixes directly on your hardware. He fixed 64bit I2O issues quickly by logging into my dual Opteron + I2O box. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 15 09:48:18 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:48:18 +0100 Subject: Gnome 2.8 Message-ID: <1095241698.10535.64.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, Given 2.8 is due today, will it be today or tomorrow that we see them in rawhide with the associated updates to the likes of Evolution etc? TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Final versions, very last couple of bugs vanish etc etc etc. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Wed Sep 15 10:39:03 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:39:03 +0100 Subject: Obtaining 2.6.8-1.541 source code In-Reply-To: <20040914232153.5576.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040914222002.GA6457@nsk.no-ip.org> <20040914232153.5576.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040915103903.GA4824@nsk.no-ip.org> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 04:21:53PM -0700, Steve G wrote: > > >Not possible. Some rpms try to change owners and permisssions on the > >installed files, and will fail if not run as root. > > These are broken. I have submitted patch after patch to fix every one of them > that I can find. If you know of any, please let me know (off the list) and I will > personally put the patch into bugzilla. Yes, I also think it a bug. If I find any again, I'll report them. > > You should never ever build rpms as root. Your whole box can be messed up by one > bad package. Most rpms in fedora are in good shape, its the little used ones you > download from somebody's homepage that is most likely to give you a bad day. > > Who cares what acct kernel source is under? You should always install it fresh > when you are building and then delete it. If you really care about security, you > won't install it to /usr/src anyways, you tweak your %_topdir variable in > .rpmmacros in your home directory (not the /usr/lib/rpm/rpmmacros) to point to a > place within your home directory. You should never use /usr/src for any serious > work. Problem solved. That's what I do. But it's annoying, after some hours of compilation, to came back and see rpm failed in the install part... Regards, Luciano Rocha From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 15 12:01:58 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:01:58 -0400 Subject: i2o - problems with controllers with additional memory (from fedora-list) In-Reply-To: <41480F90.3030307@redhat.com> References: <4144DF87.5050507@alfar.co.uk> <41480F90.3030307@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040915120158.GE27854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:46:56PM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > Please talk directly with Markus Lidel and send him as much information > as possible. It would help immensely if you could install FC3 onto an > IDE disk and allow him to ssh into the machine, so he can test candidate > fixes directly on your hardware. He fixed 64bit I2O issues quickly by > logging into my dual Opteron + I2O box. That one isn't a Markus problem, its one for Arjan. There is a limited amount of ioremap space (how much varies) and for I2O you really do need to ioremap all the controller memory. A 128Mb I2O card combined with a 128Mb video card eats a lot of 32bit address space. From arjanv at redhat.com Wed Sep 15 12:05:30 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:05:30 +0200 Subject: i2o - problems with controllers with additional memory (from fedora-list) In-Reply-To: <20040915120158.GE27854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4144DF87.5050507@alfar.co.uk> <41480F90.3030307@redhat.com> <20040915120158.GE27854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095249929.2698.2.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 14:01, Alan Cox wrote: \ > That one isn't a Markus problem, its one for Arjan. There is a limited amount > of ioremap space (how much varies) and for I2O you really do need to ioremap > all the controller memory. A 128Mb I2O card combined with a 128Mb video card > eats a lot of 32bit address space. the good news is that with 4g/4g split we can increase the vmalloc space ;) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From wtogami at redhat.com Wed Sep 15 12:36:42 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 02:36:42 -1000 Subject: i2o - problems with controllers with additional memory (from fedora-list) In-Reply-To: <20040915120158.GE27854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4144DF87.5050507@alfar.co.uk> <41480F90.3030307@redhat.com> <20040915120158.GE27854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4148375A.3010003@redhat.com> Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:46:56PM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > >>Please talk directly with Markus Lidel and send him as much information >>as possible. It would help immensely if you could install FC3 onto an >>IDE disk and allow him to ssh into the machine, so he can test candidate >>fixes directly on your hardware. He fixed 64bit I2O issues quickly by >>logging into my dual Opteron + I2O box. > > > That one isn't a Markus problem, its one for Arjan. There is a limited amount > of ioremap space (how much varies) and for I2O you really do need to ioremap > all the controller memory. A 128Mb I2O card combined with a 128Mb video card > eats a lot of 32bit address space. Arjan just said he's considering bumping up the ioremap space for future kernels, pending some discussion with other kernel people. It would be very helpful if you could install FC3 onto an IDE disk in preparation for testing of these future kernels. We will need to test both the i686 with 4G/4G split (384MB ioremap), and i586 (196MB ioremap). If you know how to modify & build your own kernels you could test this yourself without waiting for us if you boot from an IDE disk. Unfortunately the installer uses the i586 kernel in order to accomodate older hardware, so hopefully the i586 increase will be enough to make it work. This unfortunately may be impossible to work if you have two cards or more with large amounts of onboard memory, if I understand the situation correctly. You mention you had 256MB of memory for the cards too? It would be interesting to hear at what level it fails. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From wtogami at redhat.com Wed Sep 15 14:13:05 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 04:13:05 -1000 Subject: [Fwd: reduce ioremap memory size for Adaptec I2O controllers] Message-ID: <41484DF1.1000309@redhat.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: reduce ioremap memory size for Adaptec I2O controllers Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:05:37 +0200 From: Markus Lidel To: Andrew Morton CC: Warren Togami Hi... The I2O subsystem currently map all memory from the I2O controller for the controller's in queue, even if it is not necessary. This is a problem, because on some systems the size returned from pci_resource_len() could be 128MB and only 1-4MB is needed. Changes: -------- - only ioremap as much memory as the controller is actually using. It would be nice if you could include it for 2.6.9 kernel :-) Thank you very much. Bye... ------------------------------------------ Markus Lidel (Senior IT Consultant) Shadow Connect GmbH Carl-Reisch-Weg 12 D-86381 Krumbach Germany Phone: +49 82 82/99 51-0 Fax: +49 82 82/99 51-11 E-Mail: Markus.Lidel at shadowconnect.com URL: http://www.shadowconnect.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: i2o-ioremap-limit.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 786 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 15 14:16:41 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:16:41 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: reduce ioremap memory size for Adaptec I2O controllers] In-Reply-To: <41484DF1.1000309@redhat.com> References: <41484DF1.1000309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040915141641.GA15660@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 04:13:05AM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > The I2O subsystem currently map all memory from the I2O controller for > the controller's in queue, even if it is not necessary. This is a > problem, because on some systems the size returned from > pci_resource_len() could be 128MB and only 1-4MB is needed. Yeah, its an evil hack for the dpt. The only portable way I can see to tackle this would be to map 4Mb, init the controller to the point we can use its message queue then take every single message to find the highest message offset and then send it a lot of NOP messages to return them Horrible indeed From talbotscott at cox.net Wed Sep 15 15:26:33 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:26:33 -0700 Subject: Radeon 7200 - locks up during initializing In-Reply-To: <4147B3DB.10907@sbcglobal.net> References: <4147B3DB.10907@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1095261992.6662.3.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 20:15, Jim Cornette wrote: > Just to note that I decided to try a video card that was laying around. > The card was an ATI radeon. This card does not work very well with the > radeon driver. I had to resort to the vesa driver for the time being. > > The PCI card has 32 MB for memory. > > This being on the same computer that the 815 card is part of the > motherboard, is there any need to disable any settings in BIOS? I had > the video recognition set to auto. > > The effects are that card comes up in the uper left corner and does not > cover more than 3/4 of the display. I collected data regarding the > radeon driver causing problems, but wanted to know if there were any > settings that might be causing this sort of problem. > > Attached is lspci output. > > Jim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 02) > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02) > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801AA IDE (rev 02) > 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA USB (rev 02) > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801AA SMBus (rev 02) > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97 Audio (rev 02) > 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 74) > 01:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200] > > ______________________________________________________________________ I,m using Radeon 7200 for three years and the problem you describe showed up when the test release for Xorg 6.8 started. there is a bugzilla at #1175 at freedesktop, but I've not heard anything from them. Scott From talbotscott at cox.net Wed Sep 15 15:35:11 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:35:11 -0700 Subject: Radeon 7200 - locks up during initializing In-Reply-To: <4147B3DB.10907@sbcglobal.net> References: <4147B3DB.10907@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1095262511.6662.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 20:15, Jim Cornette wrote: > The effects are that card comes up in the uper left corner and does not > cover more than 3/4 of the display. I collected data regarding the > radeon driver causing problems, but wanted to know if there were any > settings that might be causing this sort of problem. P.S. Change your resolution to get a full screen. xorg.conf may have defaulted to 800X600. Do you use a LCD monitor? Mine is Samsung 193p and I notice that it isn't in any definition files, Thou I can't say for sure that that is the problem yet, as I'm having huge problems installing test releases these days, and currently I don't have any installed. Scott > > ______________________________________________________________________ From mattdm at mattdm.org Wed Sep 15 17:25:21 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:25:21 -0400 Subject: FC 3 test 1 gnucash and guile? In-Reply-To: <1095213345.14667.16.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> References: <1095212345.14667.11.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <1095213345.14667.16.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040915172521.GA20714@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 09:55:44PM -0400, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: > > ERROR: In procedure open-file: > > ERROR: No such file or directory: "/usr/share/guile/slib/mklibcat" > > [kevin at dhcp024-208-178-227 ~]$ > Crap, right off of google one must run gnucash once as root first. Well, that's gotta get fixed. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From lotas at lotas-smartman.net Wed Sep 15 19:05:54 2004 From: lotas at lotas-smartman.net (Tiernan OToole) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:05:54 +0100 Subject: Multi Wan Question Message-ID: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA76C@server01.lotas-smartman.local> Thanks for that. I will ask there. Tiernan O'Toole, MCP www.lotas-smartman.net www.the-hairy-one.com www.lsn-blog.tk -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Leonard den Ottolander Sent: 15 September 2004 08:19 To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Multi Wan Question Hello Tiernan, On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 22:21, Tiernan OToole wrote: > I am hoping someone can help me here. I am looking for a way to have > multiple (2 in this case) WAN connections (Cable modems, again in my > case) on a Linux box. This question is more appropriate on fedora-list at redhat.com. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 15 21:36:32 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:36:32 -0400 Subject: Radeon 7200 - locks up during initializing In-Reply-To: <1095261992.6662.3.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <4147B3DB.10907@sbcglobal.net> <1095261992.6662.3.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <4148B5E0.8050208@sbcglobal.net> Scott Talbot wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 20:15, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Just to note that I decided to try a video card that was laying around. >>The card was an ATI radeon. This card does not work very well with the >>radeon driver. I had to resort to the vesa driver for the time being. >> >>The PCI card has 32 MB for memory. >> >>This being on the same computer that the 815 card is part of the >>motherboard, is there any need to disable any settings in BIOS? I had >>the video recognition set to auto. >> >>The effects are that card comes up in the uper left corner and does not >>cover more than 3/4 of the display. I collected data regarding the >>radeon driver causing problems, but wanted to know if there were any >>settings that might be causing this sort of problem. >> >>Attached is lspci output. >> >>Jim >> >>______________________________________________________________________ >>00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) >>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 02) >>00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02) >>00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) >>00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801AA IDE (rev 02) >>00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA USB (rev 02) >>00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801AA SMBus (rev 02) >>00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97 Audio (rev 02) >>01:00.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 74) >>01:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200] >> >>______________________________________________________________________ > > I,m using Radeon 7200 for three years and the problem you describe > showed up when the test release for Xorg 6.8 started. there is a > bugzilla at #1175 at freedesktop, but I've not heard anything from them. > > Scott > > Thanks Scott, I filed a bug report also. The bug is 1384 https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1384 If your history with the card was good before, maybe some arrangement regarding making the earlier cards work again can be achieved. This problem is a lot worse than the problem with the 815 card. You cannot do much to isolate the problem when the computer is locked up dead.(rad 7200) The refresh problem was messy, but navigatable with a lot of care. (815 GC) They might have to start coming up with legacy drivers for the older card types. Jim From notting at redhat.com Wed Sep 15 22:13:15 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:13:15 -0400 Subject: FC 3 test 1 gnucash and guile? In-Reply-To: <20040915172521.GA20714@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <1095212345.14667.11.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <1095213345.14667.16.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <20040915172521.GA20714@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <20040915221315.GA23758@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Matthew Miller (mattdm at mattdm.org) said: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 09:55:44PM -0400, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: > > > ERROR: In procedure open-file: > > > ERROR: No such file or directory: "/usr/share/guile/slib/mklibcat" > > > [kevin at dhcp024-208-178-227 ~]$ > > Crap, right off of google one must run gnucash once as root first. > > Well, that's gotta get fixed. Will be fixed with new umb-scheme package. Bill From mattdm at mattdm.org Wed Sep 15 22:30:27 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:30:27 -0400 Subject: FC 3 test 1 gnucash and guile? In-Reply-To: <20040915221315.GA23758@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1095212345.14667.11.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <1095213345.14667.16.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <20040915172521.GA20714@jadzia.bu.edu> <20040915221315.GA23758@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040915223027.GA2576@jadzia.bu.edu> On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 06:13:15PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Crap, right off of google one must run gnucash once as root first. > > Well, that's gotta get fixed. > Will be fixed with new umb-scheme package. Well then. :) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 15 23:45:43 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:45:43 -0400 Subject: Radeon 7200 - locks up during initializing In-Reply-To: <1095262511.6662.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <4147B3DB.10907@sbcglobal.net> <1095262511.6662.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <4148D427.5090902@sbcglobal.net> Scott Talbot wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 20:15, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>The effects are that card comes up in the uper left corner and does not >>cover more than 3/4 of the display. I collected data regarding the >>radeon driver causing problems, but wanted to know if there were any >>settings that might be causing this sort of problem. > > > P.S. Change your resolution to get a full screen. xorg.conf may have > defaulted to 800X600. > > Do you use a LCD monitor? Mine is Samsung 193p and I notice that it > isn't in any definition files, Thou I can't say for sure that that is > the problem yet, as I'm having huge problems installing test releases > these days, and currently I don't have any installed. > > Scott > >>______________________________________________________________________ > I was trying to use the radeon as it was configured initially, by whatever kudzu and other configuration tools set it to. The strange items that I noted were that the radeon driver seems to work in tandem w/ the ati driver and this code is a new requirement from what was needed in the earlier FC2 final release. I experimented in a similar way as I tried for the i810 driver problem and replaced only the driver. This brought up an error that the radeon driver could not find particular values from the ati driver. Anyway, this seems like a server general problem and not a problem with the radeon driver and ati driver team. I got some interesting results from a dual head configuration with two troublesome cards. With dual head problems, I'm not sure as to what to file these bugs on. Oh! Back on topic. I only had luck using the vesa driver for the radeon 7200 card. My settings were modest and not as good as I like, which is the 1280 x 1024 setting. I think I could use 1024 x 768 resolution sucessfully, it was better than 640 x 480 anyway. Jim From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 16 02:22:28 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:22:28 -0400 Subject: Radeon 7200 - locks up during initializing In-Reply-To: <1095261992.6662.3.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <4147B3DB.10907@sbcglobal.net> <1095261992.6662.3.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <4148F8E4.6030304@sbcglobal.net> Scott Talbot wrote: > > I,m using Radeon 7200 for three years and the problem you describe > showed up when the test release for Xorg 6.8 started. there is a > bugzilla at #1175 at freedesktop, but I've not heard anything from them. > > Scott I was reading on your bug report that you can get the radeon card to function with an older kernel. I have not tried that, but I did try an older version of X, before the CVS version. This crashed badly, just as with the CVS version of X Your comment from the bug report. only fixes are to use kernel <= .524 (no good as there's no CD-Rom support, remove rhgb from kernel args (no problem, but Red Hat might not like that! This might be related to trying to create /dev/radeon after the /dev nodes were setup. If the older kernel works with this issue to allow X, then maybe those programs related to /dev can work on a fix. Jim From mcwin at 163.com Thu Sep 16 05:46:52 2004 From: mcwin at 163.com (=?gb2312?B?bWN3aW4=?=) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:46:52 +0800 (CST) Subject: Could you support me the driver for : ALi Corporation Intel 537 [M5457 AC-Link Modem] aka ALi1535 aka Agere Systems AC'97 Modem for Red Hat Linux 8.0 for TBM ThinkPad R40e 2684IPC? Message-ID: <414928CC.0000BE.25086@m246.163.com> Could you support me the driver for : ALi Corporation Intel 537 [M5457 AC-Link Modem] aka ALi1535 aka Agere Systems AC'97 Modem for Red Hat Linux 8.0 for TBM ThinkPad R40e 2684IPC. Thank you very much! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ????"????"????? http://smspop.163.com/special/jay200408/index2.html From mr700 at globalnet.bg Thu Sep 16 12:43:27 2004 From: mr700 at globalnet.bg (Doncho N. Gunchev) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:43:27 +0300 Subject: 'su -' long delay under X11 Message-ID: <200409161543.27921@-mr700> When I run 'su -' from X11 console the command 'sleeps' about one minute before anything happends. Is someone else having this problem? When I 'su -' (or simply 'su') and enter the password I see: 'Sep 16 15:35:45 fc3 su(pam_unix)[13966]: session opened for user root by mr700(uid=500)', long delay (30 seconds or so) and everything is fine (xclock runs). With 'sudo su -' I see the same message in the log, but no delay. I never used X11 with FC2, but with FC1 all works as expected. From the text console everything is fine... -- Regards, Doncho N. Gunchev Registered Linux User #291323 at counter.li.org GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/DA454F79 http://pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint = 684F 688B C508 C609 0371 5E0F A089 CB15 DA45 4F79 From dave at alfar.co.uk Thu Sep 16 13:04:29 2004 From: dave at alfar.co.uk (Dave) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:04:29 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: reduce ioremap memory size for Adaptec I2O controllers] In-Reply-To: <20040915141641.GA15660@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <41484DF1.1000309@redhat.com> <20040915141641.GA15660@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <41498F5D.5020105@alfar.co.uk> Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 04:13:05AM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > >>The I2O subsystem currently map all memory from the I2O controller for >>the controller's in queue, even if it is not necessary. This is a >>problem, because on some systems the size returned from >>pci_resource_len() could be 128MB and only 1-4MB is needed. > > > Yeah, its an evil hack for the dpt. The only portable way I can see to > tackle this would be to map 4Mb, init the controller to the point we can > use its message queue then take every single message to find the highest > message offset and then send it a lot of NOP messages to return them > > Horrible indeed Hi Alan Just to provide everyone with an update of my situation (to show I'm still alive and appreciative): I've tested further, and the I2O subsystem was able to ask ioremap for 128Mb without breaking a sweat when booting into a 4g/4g split kernel - VmallocUsed turned out to be only 144Mb after boot with gigabytes to spare, so basically this turned out to be a non-issue, sorry about that. It does seem wasteful to map all of the I2O controllers memory, though. From my extremely limited understanding of I2O (I hope I've got this right), only some of the shared memory space need be mapped into system memory, with the rest available for use by other controllers? Is there any way to query or set this range before the messaging layer is established? (seems rather like a chicken and egg situation to me) Presumably it should also be possible to artificially shrink the mapping for the message queue by taking all messages and not releasing them if they fall outside the preferred range? (even more horrible) -- David Zambonini From seanc at libero.it Thu Sep 16 13:17:41 2004 From: seanc at libero.it (Sean Carlos) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:17:41 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice 1.1.2: calc crashes saving any file under FC2 Message-ID: <41499275.6000109@libero.it> Hello, I have attempted to use the developement Open Office 1.1.2 under FC2. I should note that I installed it using --nodeps to avoid having to install the evolution data components - perhaps my problem. Writer works fine; I also used calc for a day without incident. Since the second day (thus a reboot...), I have not been able to save a file without Calc crashing. The crash is independent of the source file: even a new file crashes , saving in OO format. The crash log is attached. Anyone have a similar experience? Best regards, Sean Carlos --------------------------- log --------------------------------------------- Distribution: Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Package: OpenOffice.org Priority: Normal Version: GNOME2.6. unspecified Gnome-Distributor: Red Hat, Inc Synopsis: Calc crashes when attemping to save a document. Bugzilla-Product: OpenOffice.org Bugzilla-Component: Calc / Spreadsheet Bugzilla-Version: unspecified Description: Description of the crash: Calc crashes when saving a document. Is repeatable. Orignal document format does not matter. Can repeat with a new document or existing document. Steps to reproduce the crash: 1. Save any open document. 2. 3. Expected Results: How often does this happen? Everytime. Additional Information: Installed as rpm -Uhv --nodeps over existing openoffice.org 1.1.1 FC2 install. Did NOT install evolution data server components. Calc worked successfully for at least one day. Debugging Information: Backtrace was generated from '/usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/soffice.bin' (no debugging symbols found)...Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1". 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() #27 0x0067726f in operator>> () from /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/widgets/default/libvcl645li.so From gstool at earthlink.net Thu Sep 16 13:47:54 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:47:54 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 1.1.2: calc crashes saving any file under FC2 In-Reply-To: <41499275.6000109@libero.it> References: <41499275.6000109@libero.it> Message-ID: <4149998A.4000707@earthlink.net> Sean Carlos wrote: > Hello, > > I have attempted to use the developement Open Office 1.1.2 under FC2. I > should note that I installed it using --nodeps to avoid having to > install the evolution data components - perhaps my problem. Writer > works fine; I also used calc for a day without incident. Since the > second day (thus a reboot...), I have not been able to save a file > without Calc crashing. The crash is independent of the source file: > even a new file crashes , saving in OO format. The crash log is attached. > > Anyone have a similar experience? This is in Bugzilla. I don't recall the number, but if you search for it there, you can add your comments to the report. Gerry From dcbw at redhat.com Thu Sep 16 14:03:31 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:03:31 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice 1.1.2: calc crashes saving any file under FC2 In-Reply-To: <4149998A.4000707@earthlink.net> References: <41499275.6000109@libero.it> <4149998A.4000707@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1095343411.6173.2.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Hi, I've seen this crash, its most likely related to the patch I put in a bit ago to use -Os for optimization flags rather than -O1. It seems that OOo is _not_ happy with optimizations other than -O1. For example: 1) Crash on save files 2) Crash when copying a spreadsheet cell 3) Spreadsheet cells showing all 0's when they should show data I hate to blame GCC for this, but most of the optimization bugs we've encountered so far with OOo have been GCC's fault, not bad code in OOo. That's the penalty for using complicated C++ code with GCC I guess. Dan On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 08:47 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > Sean Carlos wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have attempted to use the developement Open Office 1.1.2 under FC2. I > > should note that I installed it using --nodeps to avoid having to > > install the evolution data components - perhaps my problem. Writer > > works fine; I also used calc for a day without incident. Since the > > second day (thus a reboot...), I have not been able to save a file > > without Calc crashing. The crash is independent of the source file: > > even a new file crashes , saving in OO format. The crash log is attached. > > > > Anyone have a similar experience? > > This is in Bugzilla. I don't recall the number, but if you search for > it there, you can add your comments to the report. > > Gerry > > From dcbw at redhat.com Thu Sep 16 14:04:03 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:04:03 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice 1.1.2: calc crashes saving any file under FC2 In-Reply-To: <4149998A.4000707@earthlink.net> References: <41499275.6000109@libero.it> <4149998A.4000707@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1095343443.6173.4.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Hi, Forgot to say that OOo 1.1.2-5 will remove the -Os patch and should fix your problem. Look for it soon. Dan On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 08:47 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > Sean Carlos wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have attempted to use the developement Open Office 1.1.2 under FC2. I > > should note that I installed it using --nodeps to avoid having to > > install the evolution data components - perhaps my problem. Writer > > works fine; I also used calc for a day without incident. Since the > > second day (thus a reboot...), I have not been able to save a file > > without Calc crashing. The crash is independent of the source file: > > even a new file crashes , saving in OO format. The crash log is attached. > > > > Anyone have a similar experience? > > This is in Bugzilla. I don't recall the number, but if you search for > it there, you can add your comments to the report. > > Gerry > > From alan at redhat.com Thu Sep 16 14:51:18 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:51:18 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: reduce ioremap memory size for Adaptec I2O controllers] In-Reply-To: <41498F5D.5020105@alfar.co.uk> References: <41484DF1.1000309@redhat.com> <20040915141641.GA15660@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <41498F5D.5020105@alfar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20040916145118.GA25530@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 02:04:29PM +0100, Dave wrote: > right), only some of the shared memory space need be mapped into system > memory, with the rest available for use by other controllers? Is there any > way to query or set this range before the messaging layer is established? > (seems rather like a chicken and egg situation to me) The problem is there is no way to find out. Markus latest changes hardcode rules for the DPT controllers which seem to be the ones with the big memory options so that should cure it for now From manu at kromtek.com Thu Sep 16 17:33:39 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:33:39 +0400 Subject: Reiser4 Message-ID: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> Hi, Reiser4 has been officially released and considered stable by Mr. Hans Reiser. Is there any idea to incorporate it in Test 3 considering the freeze in test 2 ? Regards, Manu From alan at redhat.com Thu Sep 16 17:58:33 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:58:33 -0400 Subject: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> References: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <20040916175833.GB27372@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 09:33:39PM +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > Hi, > Reiser4 has been officially released and considered stable by Mr. Hans > Reiser. Is there any idea to incorporate it in Test 3 considering the freeze > in test 2 ? None. Fedora tries to closely track the base kernel so until the base kernel gets reiser4 it is unlikely FC will From talbotscott at cox.net Thu Sep 16 20:13:28 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:13:28 -0700 Subject: not installing FC3 test 2 Message-ID: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Well, I've just about run the gamut of all my knowledge, and i figure I better get this to the list before FC3 is released. I downloaded the 2nd iso set around the 10th and have attempted to install everyday, sometimes twice with limited success. The very first install was the best (unfortunately) I had it working fairly well even, but in retrospect I have no idea why this is so. My System: MOBO MSI 6523 GFX ATI Radeon 7200 MEM 256M BIOS: ASI 6.00 Upon loading CD1 and rebooting install using linux hda=XCYL,HEAD,SECTOR to avoid the MBR problem that afflicts us all. The system goes into a VESA screen while probing hardware, the report come back tht the monitor found is SyncMaster, which is true, but it doesn't seem to tell me if it knows it is a Samsung SyncMaster 193P or not. When X is started, I get an 800 X 600 screen in the upper left of my 1280 X 1024 display while the install continues. (I reported this bug in freedesktop bugz 1175) The first error I get is a box with the announcement: Assertion (metadata_length >= bios_geom.sectors) at disk_dos.c: 7739 in function_add_logical_part_metadata()failed and the ability to select cancel or ignore. Selecting either allows progress to continue, but the same error recurs approximately 7 time during the install and it takes 6 clicks to continue each time it comes up. (Doesn't seem to matter if I choose ignore or cancel.) Eventually the process concludes with a report of successful completion. After rebooting the system starts to load I see few errors, nothing devastating all reports are tagged [OKAY]. Usually just about the time that RHGB is being replaced by X the system reboots itself, if I start it in init 3 it reboots during the FSCK if I tell it to run that check or closer to the login prompt (but never quite there). The only report of failure that I get is that firstboot failed but usually there are a few other commands that execute before the reboot. Most recently I tried to install Test 1 and upgrade to Test 2 (bypassing the need for firstboot). I got as far as the gdm login screen in X and started to log in when it rebooted. I am now going to install Test1 and upgrade as much as I can and see what finally breaks it. Anybody got a better idea? Scott From gcarter at aesgi.com Thu Sep 16 20:24:03 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:24:03 -0500 Subject: not installing FC3 test 2 In-Reply-To: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <4149F663.9050606@aesgi.com> Yes, I do. Why not install a stock kernel from kernel.org? It is MUCH easier figuring out a specific support problem like this if you start with a stock kernel, and one of the kernel guys, in my case unofficial kernel guys, helps you determine the problem with a simple .config file and recompile. Please write me some Email, with the following outputs and I will have a look at it: lspci cat /proc/devices cat /proc/cpuinfo cat /proc/interrupts dmesg uname -r In addition please have the Serial # and OEM manufacturer of the MSI mother board. -gc Scott Talbot wrote: > Well, I've just about run the gamut of all my knowledge, and i figure I >better get this to the list before FC3 is released. > > I downloaded the 2nd iso set around the 10th and have attempted to >install everyday, sometimes twice with limited success. The very first >install was the best (unfortunately) I had it working fairly well even, >but in retrospect I have no idea why this is so. > >My System: >MOBO MSI 6523 >GFX ATI Radeon 7200 >MEM 256M >BIOS: ASI 6.00 > >Upon loading CD1 and rebooting install using linux hda=XCYL,HEAD,SECTOR >to avoid the MBR problem that afflicts us all. > >The system goes into a VESA screen while probing hardware, the report >come back tht the monitor found is SyncMaster, which is true, but it >doesn't seem to tell me if it knows it is a Samsung SyncMaster 193P or >not. When X is started, I get an 800 X 600 screen in the upper left of >my 1280 X 1024 display while the install continues. (I reported this bug >in freedesktop bugz 1175) >The first error I get is a box with the announcement: > >Assertion (metadata_length >= bios_geom.sectors) at disk_dos.c: 7739 in >function_add_logical_part_metadata()failed > >and the ability to select cancel or ignore. Selecting either allows >progress to continue, but the same error recurs approximately 7 time >during the install and it takes 6 clicks to continue each time it comes >up. (Doesn't seem to matter if I choose ignore or cancel.) > >Eventually the process concludes with a report of successful completion. > >After rebooting the system starts to load I see few errors, nothing >devastating all reports are tagged [OKAY]. Usually just about the time >that RHGB is being replaced by X the system reboots itself, if I start >it in init 3 it reboots during the FSCK if I tell it to run that check >or closer to the login prompt (but never quite there). > > The only report of failure that I get is that firstboot failed but >usually there are a few other commands that execute before the reboot. > > Most recently I tried to install Test 1 and upgrade to Test 2 >(bypassing the need for firstboot). I got as far as the gdm login >screen in X and started to log in when it rebooted. > > I am now going to install Test1 and upgrade as much as I can and see >what finally breaks it. Anybody got a better idea? > >Scott > > > > From nphilipp at redhat.com Thu Sep 16 20:28:54 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:28:54 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: system-config-samba-1.2.15-0.fc2.1 Message-ID: <1095366534.6709.0.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> Among some fixes this update lets the user configure the share name instead of always using an automatically determined default. Please test extensively. I play to make this final by end of next week or so. Nils --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-306 2004-09-16 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : system-config-samba Version : 1.2.15 Release : 0.fc2.1 Summary : Samba server configuration tool Description : system-config-samba is a graphical user interface for creating, modifying, and deleting samba shares. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Sep 15 2004 Nils Philippsen - 1.2.15-0.fc2.1 - write smbpasswd file when adding user (#132084) * Sun Aug 15 2004 Nils Philippsen - 1.2.14-1 - make share name configurable (#110804, use patch from Philip Van Hoof, fix it up a bit) - do some more code consolidation * Tue Jul 20 2004 Brent Fox - 1.2.13-1 - add 'cups option' entry (bug #128245) * Wed Jun 23 2004 Brent Fox - 1.2.12-1 - use popen instead of system (bug #112528) * Tue Jun 22 2004 Brent Fox - 1.2.11-1 - fix security and guest account defaults (bug #121745) * Mon Jun 21 2004 Brent Fox - 1.2.10-1 - write workgroup name explicitly (bug #126435) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 04973b3fbd04f7ccf4ced81852a225d0 SRPMS/system-config-samba-1.2.15-0.fc2.1.src.rpm 8f4ca37d6d68881f5ebc753b591be578 x86_64/system-config-samba-1.2.15-0.fc2.1.noarch.rpm 8f4ca37d6d68881f5ebc753b591be578 i386/system-config-samba-1.2.15-0.fc2.1.noarch.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Sep 16 22:38:52 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:38:52 +0100 Subject: Anyone else finding a problem with transcode? Message-ID: <1095374332.26891.7.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I'm using FC3t2 (well, t1 with every update running on it, so I'm guessing that is more or less t2). I've had transcode running on this box since it was a vanilla FC2 machine without a problem - until last week when it will start up, but completely fail to find any of the conversion modules. Is anyone else seeing this problem or is it my system? TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From katzj at redhat.com Thu Sep 16 22:43:01 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:43:01 -0400 Subject: not installing FC3 test 2 In-Reply-To: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <1095374581.24799.67.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 13:13 -0700, Scott Talbot wrote: > Upon loading CD1 and rebooting install using linux hda=XCYL,HEAD,SECTOR > to avoid the MBR problem that afflicts us all. [snip] > Assertion (metadata_length >= bios_geom.sectors) at disk_dos.c: 7739 in > function_add_logical_part_metadata()failed Can you try the install without passing hda=H,C,S? The newer parted that's included now should make it so that this isn't necessary. And if it doesn't, I'd be interested to hear it. > The only report of failure that I get is that firstboot failed but > usually there are a few other commands that execute before the reboot. firstboot has been fixed (+ rhgb) Jeremy From kmaraas at broadpark.no Thu Sep 16 21:55:09 2004 From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:55:09 +0200 Subject: Gnome 2.8 In-Reply-To: <1095243839.2736.46.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> References: <1095241698.10535.64.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095241883.2736.44.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <1095242566.10535.66.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095243839.2736.46.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <1095371709.6044.0.camel@home.gnome.no> ons, 15,.09.2004 kl. 11.23 +0100, skrev Douglas Furlong: > On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 11:02, PFJ wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > Given 2.8 is due today, will it be today or tomorrow that we see them in > > > > rawhide with the associated updates to the likes of Evolution etc? > > > Just out of curiosity, what does it matter? > > > > Final versions, very last couple of bugs vanish etc etc etc. > Are there any bugs in particular that are present in rawhide, that won't > be when they turn 2.8? > Evolution picking the wrong component for attachment will be fixed hopefully. For example trying to show a vcard in abiword and having abiword crash? Probably a few more as well. Cheers Kjartan From jbinpg at shaw.ca Thu Sep 16 23:36:48 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:36:48 -0700 Subject: iptables SECURITY - default settings In-Reply-To: <1094765669.3881.1242.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> References: <20040909210409.36064.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> <1094765669.3881.1242.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <20040916233648.GA29738@shaw.ca> On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:34:29PM +0200, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Am Do, den 09.09.2004 schrieb Wal um 23:04: > > > I am suggesting a more secure default setting- > > > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP > > > Alternately (with possible issue when rules actually get applied)- > > > -A SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP > > I would heavily dislike a default DROP rule setup with iptables. There > is a long discussion about DROP versus REJECT in the firewall forums, > and I follow the arguments for REJECTing. One reason which affects users > of Fedora: a DROP policy / default rule makes it much harder for anyone > and especially less experienced users to down track problems cause by > firewalling with no real gain on the other side. It is and stays a myth > that DROPing pakets makes a system invisible for attackers (buzzword > "stealth mode" in PFW products). For the majority of users a feedback in > form of an ICMP port unreachable is most useful. Your argument in favor of REJECT falls apart in a DDoS situation. Having the kernel drop packets rather than fire off REJECT messages in response to every packet is much more efficient. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From tedkaz at optonline.net Fri Sep 17 00:03:18 2004 From: tedkaz at optonline.net (Ted Kaczmarek) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:03:18 -0400 Subject: iptables SECURITY - default settings In-Reply-To: <20040916233648.GA29738@shaw.ca> References: <20040909210409.36064.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> <1094765669.3881.1242.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <20040916233648.GA29738@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1095379397.1218.22.camel@inyoureyes.linsolutions.com> On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 19:36, Jack Bowling wrote: > On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:34:29PM +0200, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > > Am Do, den 09.09.2004 schrieb Wal um 23:04: > > > > > I am suggesting a more secure default setting- > > > > > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP > > > > > Alternately (with possible issue when rules actually get applied)- > > > > > -A SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP > > > > I would heavily dislike a default DROP rule setup with iptables. There > > is a long discussion about DROP versus REJECT in the firewall forums, > > and I follow the arguments for REJECTing. One reason which affects users > > of Fedora: a DROP policy / default rule makes it much harder for anyone > > and especially less experienced users to down track problems cause by > > firewalling with no real gain on the other side. It is and stays a myth > > that DROPing pakets makes a system invisible for attackers (buzzword > > "stealth mode" in PFW products). For the majority of users a feedback in > > form of an ICMP port unreachable is most useful. > > Your argument in favor of REJECT falls apart in a DDoS situation. Having > the kernel drop packets rather than fire off REJECT messages in response to > every packet is much more efficient. > > -- > Jack Bowling > mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca Generating reject's would consume much more resources than dropping the packets. What "firewall" forum's are you looking at? I know many firewall professionals and not one of them prefers to send and unreachable if they don't have to. Ted From bobtest at lingpgmr.com Fri Sep 17 01:05:24 2004 From: bobtest at lingpgmr.com (Robert L Cochran) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:05:24 -0400 Subject: FC3 Test 2 Support For Socket 939 Athlon 64 CPU Message-ID: <1095383124.11695.6.camel@rachelsp4.lingpgmr.com> Is there a set of Fedora Core 3 installation CDs for Socket 939 Athlon 64 systems? I'm hoping to get an Athlon 64 3800+ cpu at the end of this month. I already have the motherboard and memory. I might wait for the 90 nm chips to come out in October though -- if indeed they do, and if I can remain patient. Thanks Bob Cochran Greenbelt, Maryland, USA From mike at netlyncs.com Fri Sep 17 01:54:48 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:54:48 -0500 Subject: not installing FC3 test 2 In-Reply-To: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <1095386088.12812.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 13:13 -0700, Scott Talbot wrote: > I am now going to install Test1 and upgrade as much as I can and see > what finally breaks it. Anybody got a better idea? I just installed straight from rawhide this morning and have had no problems to speek of as of yet. I haven't messed with it a lot to this point, but will know more this weekend, but so far so good. GUI install was what I used. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From seandarcy at hotmail.com Fri Sep 17 02:24:23 2004 From: seandarcy at hotmail.com (sean darcy) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:24:23 -0400 Subject: Does gcc like glibc-2.3.3-51? Message-ID: I'm trying to build xine-libs on an updated test2. glibc-2.3.3-51 gcc-3.4.1-10 I get this error: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I../../../../src/input/vcd/libcdio -mtune=athlon -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -falign-functions=4 -falign-loops=4 -falign-jumps=4 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fexpensive-optimizations -fschedule-insns2 -fno-strict-aliasing -ffast-math -funroll-loops -finline-functions -Wall -DNDEBUG -D_REENTRANT -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DXINE_COMPILE -Wpointer-arith -Wnested-externs -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -march=athlon-xp -m3dnow -msse -mmmx -mfpmath=sse -ffast-math -Os -funit-at-a-time -c image/bincue.c -MT bincue.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/bincue.TPlo -o .libs/bincue.o In file included from image/bincue.c:50: /usr/include/glob.h:193: error: syntax error before "asm" /usr/include/glob.h:197: error: syntax error before "asm" make[6]: *** [bincue.lo] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/xine-lib-1-rc6a/src/input/vcd/libcdio' Is this a xine-lib error? It looks to me like gcc just doesn't like glob.h from glibc. sean From drepper at redhat.com Fri Sep 17 06:14:43 2004 From: drepper at redhat.com (Ulrich Drepper) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:14:43 -0700 Subject: Does gcc like glibc-2.3.3-51? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <414A80D3.7030805@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 sean darcy wrote: > I'm trying to build xine-libs on an updated test2. Just change the sources to not h ave glob.h as the first glibc header to be included. It's already fixed so you could also wait. - -- ? Ulrich Drepper ? Red Hat, Inc. ? 444 Castro St ? Mountain View, CA ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBSoDT2ijCOnn/RHQRArYsAJ9OETS1dho+dhGDOtNF93+8GLmhAQCghrDL ldS4LxbWzvnt+eDuJpWkc+M= =sB9P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Fri Sep 17 08:05:57 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:05:57 +0100 Subject: iptables SECURITY - default settings In-Reply-To: <1095379397.1218.22.camel@inyoureyes.linsolutions.com> References: <20040909210409.36064.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> <1094765669.3881.1242.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <20040916233648.GA29738@shaw.ca> <1095379397.1218.22.camel@inyoureyes.linsolutions.com> Message-ID: <1095408356.2745.23.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 01:03, Ted Kaczmarek wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 19:36, Jack Bowling wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:34:29PM +0200, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > > > Am Do, den 09.09.2004 schrieb Wal um 23:04: > > > > > > > I am suggesting a more secure default setting- > > > > > > > -I SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP > > > > > > > Alternately (with possible issue when rules actually get applied)- > > > > > > > -A SecLev505-INPUT -p all -j DROP > > > > > > I would heavily dislike a default DROP rule setup with iptables. There > > > is a long discussion about DROP versus REJECT in the firewall forums, > > > and I follow the arguments for REJECTing. One reason which affects users > > > of Fedora: a DROP policy / default rule makes it much harder for anyone > > > and especially less experienced users to down track problems cause by > > > firewalling with no real gain on the other side. It is and stays a myth > > > that DROPing pakets makes a system invisible for attackers (buzzword > > > "stealth mode" in PFW products). For the majority of users a feedback in > > > form of an ICMP port unreachable is most useful. > > > > Your argument in favor of REJECT falls apart in a DDoS situation. Having > > the kernel drop packets rather than fire off REJECT messages in response to > > every packet is much more efficient. > > > > -- > > Jack Bowling > > mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca > > > Generating reject's would consume much more resources than dropping the > packets. > > What "firewall" forum's are you looking at? > > I know many firewall professionals and not one of them prefers to send > and unreachable if they don't have to. I was under the impression that the most appropriate place to use a reject packet was in relation to I believe Sendmail. Where just dropping the packet would cause a mail system to just continually try to resend the packet instead of acknowledging that the information that it has relating to a host is wrong, and that it should stop. Other then that, and I'm sure some other equally specific situations dropping a packet is preferred. Not due to "stealth" or any thing like that, just because it is less network/process intensive. The majority of problems that people face are due not to firewall limitations preventing outbound traffic, but limitations preventing inbound and "related" inbound traffic (not necessarily established, and other buz words, I'm talking from a purely, emotional/ task related perspective). In which case, rejected messages are unlikly going to be of much use, if they are unable to track down the problem using log and other monitoring techniques, then they are unlikly going to be able to talk to a friend and get them to relate back the rejected/dropped messages either. Well just my two pennies(I wonder when I'll be using the cent (euro, not $!)) worth. -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 F: 0870 220 2178 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Try: setarch i386 And see if that makes a difference. prelink/exec-shield might be to blame -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Sep 17 09:17:57 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:17:57 +0100 Subject: Anyone else finding a problem with transcode? In-Reply-To: <1095412353.4966.9.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <1095374332.26891.7.camel@T7.linux> <1095412353.4966.9.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <1095412677.22828.15.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, > > I've had transcode running on this box since it was a vanilla FC2 > > machine without a problem - until last week when it will start up, but > > completely fail to find any of the conversion modules. > > Isn't transcode not a fedora package, but something you grab from livna? True. Got mine from freshrpms. Worked fine until the back end of last week. > Try: setarch i386 > > And see if that makes a difference. prelink/exec-shield might be to > blame Bloomin' prelink again! I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From byte at aeon.com.my Fri Sep 17 09:25:01 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:25:01 +1000 Subject: Anyone else finding a problem with transcode? In-Reply-To: <1095412677.22828.15.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1095374332.26891.7.camel@T7.linux> <1095412353.4966.9.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <1095412677.22828.15.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1095413101.4966.12.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 19:17, PFJ wrote: > > > I've had transcode running on this box since it was a vanilla FC2 > > > machine without a problem - until last week when it will start up, but > > > completely fail to find any of the conversion modules. > > > > Isn't transcode not a fedora package, but something you grab from livna? > > True. Got mine from freshrpms. Worked fine until the back end of last > week. If Matthias was building development packages, you're best of filing a bug report as well > Bloomin' prelink again! I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle. Just a possibility. Again, 'setarch i386' might be the trick you need -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 17 11:33:55 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:33:55 -0400 Subject: dropped to shell on older installations - fsck too old Message-ID: <414ACBA3.2070705@sbcglobal.net> I usually mount drives from one installation for usage in another installation. I noticed that if a drive that was created while setting up a partition in FC3T2, then you boot into a pre-existing or newly created version of an earlier installation, you will be dropped to a maintenance shell. The error seems to point to a volume that is alright, but could not be verified, because of too new of an installation. Just a repeatable failure - newly installed FC3T1 and preexisting FC2 release were effected. No data loss, but hard to catch onto why you are being dropped to a maintenance shell. Jim -- How's the wife? Is she at home enjoying capitalism? From rajeevas at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 12:56:08 2004 From: rajeevas at gmail.com (Rajeeva Samararatne) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:56:08 +0600 Subject: dropped to shell on older installations - fsck too old In-Reply-To: <414ACBA3.2070705@sbcglobal.net> References: <414ACBA3.2070705@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8672c8fe04091705563e062e4@mail.gmail.com> Link is working but there is no appropriate price for download. Rajeeva On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:33:55 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > I usually mount drives from one installation for usage in another > installation. > I noticed that if a drive that was created while setting up a partition > in FC3T2, then you boot into a pre-existing or newly created version of > an earlier installation, you will be dropped to a maintenance shell. > > The error seems to point to a volume that is alright, but could not be > verified, because of too new of an installation. > > Just a repeatable failure - newly installed FC3T1 and preexisting FC2 > release were effected. > > No data loss, but hard to catch onto why you are being dropped to a > maintenance shell. > > Jim > -- > How's the wife? Is she at home enjoying capitalism? > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From dmalcolm at redhat.com Fri Sep 17 14:57:13 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:57:13 -0400 Subject: Gnome 2.8 In-Reply-To: <1095371709.6044.0.camel@home.gnome.no> References: <1095241698.10535.64.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095241883.2736.44.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <1095242566.10535.66.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095243839.2736.46.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <1095371709.6044.0.camel@home.gnome.no> Message-ID: <1095433033.29532.1.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 23:55 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > ons, 15,.09.2004 kl. 11.23 +0100, skrev Douglas Furlong: > > On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 11:02, PFJ wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Given 2.8 is due today, will it be today or tomorrow that we see them in > > > > > rawhide with the associated updates to the likes of Evolution etc? > > > > Just out of curiosity, what does it matter? > > > > > > Final versions, very last couple of bugs vanish etc etc etc. > > Are there any bugs in particular that are present in rawhide, that won't > > be when they turn 2.8? > > > Evolution picking the wrong component for attachment will be fixed > hopefully. For example trying to show a vcard in abiword and having > abiword crash? Yeah, this one will be fixed when the latest gnome-vfs2 package hits rawhide. > > Probably a few more as well. > > Cheers > Kjartan > > From k7qo at commspeed.net Fri Sep 17 16:06:29 2004 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (Chuck Adams) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:06:29 -0700 Subject: FC3 test1 install failure Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20040917085946.01b7a188@mail.commspeed.net> I have downloaded from ftp://mirror.stanford.edu/ all the FC3-test1 .iso files for x86_64 and the md5sum's check correctly. I have a Micro-Star International (MSI) K8N Neo motherboard with NVIDIA nForce 3 Chipset and AMD Athlon 64 with 1GB of memory. Using either the PNY Technologies Verto G-Force FX video board or Kaser S315E-32a AGP board I get the same effect. When I startup the install with either disc1 or the DVD disc I get a startup screen that is black with a light to medium blue mottled effect. This with a 17" 1280x1024 Sharp TFT display. The system is running FC2 2.6.2-1.521 at the present time and memory diagnostics show no problems, so I know it is not the hardware. Any help appreciated. Chuck Adams, K7QO CP-60 WPM k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.qsl.net/k7qo Ham Radio Stuff http://www.commspeed.net/k7qo Physics Stuff Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water, please. From martin at lnuxpwrd.net Fri Sep 17 16:09:58 2004 From: martin at lnuxpwrd.net (Martin) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:09:58 -0700 Subject: eth1 getting moved to eth0 Message-ID: <1095437397.11261.10.camel@laptop> if have two network interfaces, eth0 which i want to be the hardwired motherboard device, and eth1 which should be the wireless device. it has been working fine for some months, but something got corrupted and I just can't get things working again. the wireless device wants to come up on eth0, despite what's in /etc/modeprobe.conf and /etc/sysconfig/hwconf. all the files in /etc/sysconfig/networking and network-scripts seems to be correct... that is have eth0 where i expect and eth1 where i expect. Am I missing some other configuration files that controls which interface gets bound to eth0 or eth1? and also, every now and then kudzu thinks i've removed and then re-added the wireless device, and then i have to end up editing all these config files to get things back to where they were. ( and then kudzu still wants to change things). I have fedora core 2 + patches. kudzu 1.1.68.2-1 -Marty From jorton at redhat.com Fri Sep 17 16:21:56 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:21:56 +0100 Subject: PHP 5.0.1 packages available for testing Message-ID: <20040917162156.GA11130@redhat.com> PHP 5.0.1 packages are now available for testing. These are not going to be included in FC3. Download from: http://people.redhat.com/jorton/devel-php5/ Please add any feedback from testing to this bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127980 Regards, joe From jorton at redhat.com Fri Sep 17 16:29:05 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:29:05 +0100 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 1 Test Update: httpd-2.0.51-1.1 Message-ID: <20040917162905.GD10053@redhat.com> Please add any feedback from testing these packages to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132741 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-312 2004-09-17 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 1 Name : httpd Version : 2.0.51 Release : 1.1 Summary : Apache HTTP Server Description : Apache is a powerful, full-featured, efficient, and freely-available Web server. Apache is also the most popular Web server on the Internet. --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update includes the latest stable release of Apache httpd 2.0, including fixes for possible denial of service issues in mod_ssl and mod_dav_fs, and an privilege elevation attack for local users. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Sep 15 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.51-1.1 - update to 2.0.51, including security fixes for: * core: CAN-2004-0747 * mod_dav_fs: CAN-2004-0809 * mod_ssl: CAN-2004-0751, CAN-2004-0748 * Thu Jul 01 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.50-1.0 - update to 2.0.50 (CVE CAN-2004-0488, CAN-2004-0493, #126864, #125047) - mod_autoindex: don't truncate output on stat() failure (#126930) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 642d77814c7dc35df5712378ef633f21 SRPMS/httpd-2.0.51-1.1.src.rpm 55214981f0eef135ba34eab2723e49b3 x86_64/httpd-2.0.51-1.1.x86_64.rpm 66be67022f1ccf365ac294a88da21ff9 x86_64/httpd-devel-2.0.51-1.1.x86_64.rpm d0cdd881b5a566b878434ac56b53e51d x86_64/httpd-manual-2.0.51-1.1.x86_64.rpm ba00b408c0119e32f34157340d8294b2 x86_64/mod_ssl-2.0.51-1.1.x86_64.rpm 41e453cef41c19caf5fcbd3a9bbe0666 x86_64/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.51-1.1.x86_64.rpm ec0eb8af7cc9b6cc75da6852b3eb8296 i386/httpd-2.0.51-1.1.i386.rpm d7a033b29c3767521919ac366a4f3355 i386/httpd-devel-2.0.51-1.1.i386.rpm d7900fe46e9aece2c736a34babeb0ab5 i386/httpd-manual-2.0.51-1.1.i386.rpm f6826cf1089a845c50164850cadbd596 i386/mod_ssl-2.0.51-1.1.i386.rpm ffb638210db155b4b5710113373d27f1 i386/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.51-1.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jorton at redhat.com Fri Sep 17 16:31:20 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:31:20 +0100 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 2 Test Update: httpd-2.0.51-2.5 Message-ID: <20040917163120.GE10053@redhat.com> Please add any feedback from testing these packages to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=130750 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-313 2004-09-17 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : httpd Version : 2.0.51 Release : 2.5 Summary : Apache HTTP Server Description : Apache is a powerful, full-featured, efficient, and freely-available Web server. Apache is also the most popular Web server on the Internet. --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update includes the latest stable release of Apache httpd 2.0, including fixes for possible denial of service issues in mod_ssl and mod_dav_fs, and an privilege elevation attack for local users. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Thu Sep 16 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.51-2.5 - mod_ssl: prevent SIGHUP-triggers-SIGSEGV after upgrade from 2.0.50 - revert mod_ldap/mod_auth_ldap changes likewise * Wed Sep 15 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.51-2.1 - update to 2.0.51, including security fixes for: * core: CAN-2004-0747 * mod_dav_fs: CAN-2004-0809 * mod_ssl: CAN-2004-0751, CAN-2004-0748 --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ c8170ec9004c74d4fd7dce411389a506 SRPMS/httpd-2.0.51-2.5.src.rpm 8a270fd28bd5852ba4a3f5db9cc4585c x86_64/httpd-2.0.51-2.5.x86_64.rpm f8e47590495389d6d3294a449505817c x86_64/httpd-devel-2.0.51-2.5.x86_64.rpm 1d179652cd1f07a8ed71e244dce6b476 x86_64/httpd-manual-2.0.51-2.5.x86_64.rpm e3f09fe6cd1380f10200a12b1cdc95ab x86_64/mod_ssl-2.0.51-2.5.x86_64.rpm 18f8fa53d136cd1d1c0f01dba5679ed2 x86_64/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.51-2.5.x86_64.rpm fbe31f69f31c7bceacf5dbbdc7ebe385 i386/httpd-2.0.51-2.5.i386.rpm 07cf4c9ac471f15dc79dbf4827924f7d i386/httpd-devel-2.0.51-2.5.i386.rpm 41264556066c57e9ddde1d0cde506515 i386/httpd-manual-2.0.51-2.5.i386.rpm f444845baf097f6daf36d97bf79cfc50 i386/mod_ssl-2.0.51-2.5.i386.rpm f9c05dfc22a660c09181ecb3ed78fbfe i386/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.51-2.5.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From notting at redhat.com Fri Sep 17 16:46:44 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:46:44 -0400 Subject: eth1 getting moved to eth0 In-Reply-To: <1095437397.11261.10.camel@laptop> References: <1095437397.11261.10.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <20040917164644.GC9811@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Martin (martin at lnuxpwrd.net) said: > if have two network interfaces, eth0 which i want to be > the hardwired motherboard device, and eth1 which should > be the wireless device. it has been working fine for some > months, but something got corrupted and I just can't get > things working again. > > the wireless device wants to come up on eth0, despite > what's in /etc/modeprobe.conf and /etc/sysconfig/hwconf. > > all the files in /etc/sysconfig/networking and network-scripts > seems to be correct... that is have eth0 where i expect and > eth1 where i expect. > > Am I missing some other configuration files that controls which > interface gets bound to eth0 or eth1? Is HWADDR specified in the correct ifcfg files? Bill From martin at lnuxpwrd.net Fri Sep 17 17:54:08 2004 From: martin at lnuxpwrd.net (Martin) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:54:08 -0700 Subject: eth1 getting moved to eth0 In-Reply-To: <20040917164644.GC9811@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1095437397.11261.10.camel@laptop> <20040917164644.GC9811@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095443647.3667.12.camel@laptop> On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 09:46, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Martin (martin at lnuxpwrd.net) said: > > if have two network interfaces, eth0 which i want to be > > the hardwired motherboard device, and eth1 which should > > be the wireless device. it has been working fine for some > > months, but something got corrupted and I just can't get > > things working again. > > > > the wireless device wants to come up on eth0, despite > > what's in /etc/modeprobe.conf and /etc/sysconfig/hwconf. > > > > all the files in /etc/sysconfig/networking and network-scripts > > seems to be correct... that is have eth0 where i expect and > > eth1 where i expect. > > > > Am I missing some other configuration files that controls which > > interface gets bound to eth0 or eth1? > > Is HWADDR specified in the correct ifcfg files? yes, i've tried removing them and then putting them back. here is additional info that might provide some clues: from boot.log: Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: cannot change name of eth0 to eth1: Device or resource busy Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: interface 'eth0' not found Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: cannot change name of eth0 to eth1: Device or resource busy Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: cannot change name of eth0 to eth1: Device or resource busy Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: interface 'eth0' not found Sep 17 12:37:48 laptop smartd: smartd startup succeeded Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: Device eth1 has different MAC address than expected, ignoring. Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: cannot change name of eth0 to eth1: Device or resource busy Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop network: Bringing up interface eth1: failed is it normal for it to try to switch from eth0 to eth1? if i rmmod ipw2100; modprobe ipw2100 then it comes up as eth1. from hwconf: - class: NETWORK bus: PCI detached: 0 device: eth0 driver: e100 desc: "Intel Corp.|82801BD PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller" network.hwaddr: 08:00:46:A3:33:B9 vendorId: 8086 deviceId: 103d subVendorId: 104d subDeviceId: 8140 pciType: 1 pcidom: 0 pcibus: 2 pcidev: 8 pcifn: 0 - class: NETWORK bus: PCI detached: 0 device: eth1 driver: ipw2100 desc: "Intel Corp.|PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter" network.hwaddr: 00:04:23:5C:81:52 vendorId: 8086 deviceId: 1043 subVendorId: 8086 subDeviceId: 2596 pciType: 1 pcidom: 0 pcibus: 2 pcidev: b pcifn: 0 - does the ordering matter in this file? ifconfig -a output (truncated). nothing listed for eth1: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:23:5C:81:52 inet addr:10.192.26.88 Bcast:10.192.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::204:23ff:fe5c:8152/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:6029 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:191 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:648109 (632.9 Kb) TX bytes:17563 (17.1 Kb) Interrupt:9 Base address:0x1000 Memory:d0201000-d0201fff [root at laptop devices]# more ifcfg-eth1 # Intel Corp.|PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter DEVICE=eth1 ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=dhcp USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes TYPE=Wireless IPV6INIT=no HWADDR=00:04:23:5c:81:52 NETMASK= DHCP_HOSTNAME= IPADDR= DOMAIN= GATEWAY= ESSID= CHANNEL=1 MODE=Auto RATE=Auto [root at laptop devices]# more ifcfg-eth0 # Intel Corp.|82801BD PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller DEVICE=eth0 ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=dhcp TYPE=Ethernet USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes IPV6INIT=no HWADDR=08:00:46:A3:33:B9 From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Fri Sep 17 18:18:00 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: no USB jump/flash drive support yet In-Reply-To: <1093327718.5822.43.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: Well..., The DRIVE should show up as /dev/sda, the data partition should usually be /dev/sda1. Unfortunately my [sony] memory stick seems not to work under FC2 at least, but it doesn't cause hanging problems, it just doesn't work at all. -- thanks, noah silva > Tom, > > Both of my thumb drives appear as /dev/sda and work perfectly. Other > folks have reported their thumb drives appear as /dev/sda1. And there > are some truly evil thumb drives that require Windows security drivers > to access them. Has that possibility been ruled out? > > -- Doc > Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL > Fedora Core 1 kernel 2.4.22-1.2199.nptl on P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p > "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." > -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Fri Sep 17 18:47:16 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:47:16 -0400 Subject: no USB jump/flash drive support yet Message-ID: "Noah Silva [Mailing list]" @redhat.com on 09/17/2004 02:18:00 PM said: > The DRIVE should show up as /dev/sda, the data partition should usually be > /dev/sda1. Unfortunately my [sony] memory stick seems not to work under > FC2 at least, but it doesn't cause hanging problems, it just doesn't work > at all. It may be due to the fact that FC2 added ACPI support and your machine has a buggy ACPI BIOS (like mine did). All my USB stuff stopped working when I switched to FC2. Go back throught the archives and look for USB and ACPI for _my_ problem and solution. > > Tom, > > > > Both of my thumb drives appear as /dev/sda and work perfectly. Other > > folks have reported their thumb drives appear as /dev/sda1. And there > > are some truly evil thumb drives that require Windows security drivers > > to access them. Has that possibility been ruled out? From michal at harddata.com Fri Sep 17 19:21:17 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:21:17 -0600 Subject: eth1 getting moved to eth0 In-Reply-To: <1095443647.3667.12.camel@laptop>; from martin@lnuxpwrd.net on Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:54:08AM -0700 References: <1095437397.11261.10.camel@laptop> <20040917164644.GC9811@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1095443647.3667.12.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <20040917132117.B21333@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:54:08AM -0700, Martin wrote: > Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: > Sep 17 12:37:45 laptop ifup: cannot change name of eth0 to eth1: Device > or resource busy I run into that in another context. Some modules have a code which prevents them from beeing unloaded. If your statup will try first the "wrong" module then you are stuck. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=125916 and what Bill had then to say. :-) One possible workaround is to put in /etc/modprobe.conf an 'install' directive which looks somewhat like that install "wrong module" modprobe eth0 && modprobe -i "wrong module" where "wrong module" is that thing you want to see for eth1. I had actually a situation of four network interfaces with three different drivers where I wanted to ensure a particular order and what was coming up was definitely not that; and confused. I do not see a reason why 'install' directives similar to the above could not be written in /etc/modprobe.conf "automagically", as this does not harm anything when they are not strictly needed and prevents a "ping-pong" of network interfaces on a startup, but apparently the problem is not widespread enough. Another possibility is to use 'nameif' and your own names for network interfaces instead of eth0 and eth1. See 'man nameif' for details. The catch is that you cannot rename interfaces after they were brought up, so you have drop in your own startup script which runs early enough (it would be nice if a support for that was already present) and I have no idea how various 'sysconfig' tools will react on "strange" names. But you have an editor. Michal From notting at redhat.com Fri Sep 17 19:27:51 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:27:51 -0400 Subject: eth1 getting moved to eth0 In-Reply-To: <20040917132117.B21333@mail.harddata.com> References: <1095437397.11261.10.camel@laptop> <20040917164644.GC9811@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1095443647.3667.12.camel@laptop> <20040917132117.B21333@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040917192751.GC11039@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Michal Jaegermann (michal at harddata.com) said: > Another possibility is to use 'nameif' and your own names for > network interfaces instead of eth0 and eth1. See 'man nameif' > for details. The catch is that you cannot rename interfaces > after they were brought up, so you have drop in your own startup > script which runs early enough (it would be nice if a support for > that was already present) and I have no idea how various 'sysconfig' > tools will react on "strange" names. But you have an editor. Actually, if you do: alias frobozz e100 and have: DEVICE=frobozz in the ifcfg file, the standard scripts will rename it to whatever you like. Bill From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri Sep 17 19:40:39 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:40:39 -0400 Subject: no USB jump/flash drive support yet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095450039.4248.6.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 14:47 -0400, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > "Noah Silva [Mailing list]" @redhat.com > on 09/17/2004 02:18:00 PM said: > > > > The DRIVE should show up as /dev/sda, the data partition should usually > be > > /dev/sda1. Unfortunately my [sony] memory stick seems not to work under > > FC2 at least, but it doesn't cause hanging problems, it just doesn't work > > at all. > > It may be due to the fact that FC2 added ACPI support and your machine > has a buggy ACPI BIOS (like mine did). All my USB stuff stopped working > when I switched to FC2. > > Go back throught the archives and look for USB and ACPI for _my_ problem > and solution. Memorex thumb drive worked for me ("giant floppy mode" /dev/sda or /dev/ sdb - depending...) as well as external an USB hard drive (/dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1) on FC1, FC2, and FC3T1 (until an attempted update killed the machine - another story), but only booting with noacpi. Phil From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Fri Sep 17 20:26:02 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:26:02 -0400 Subject: no USB jump/flash drive support yet Message-ID: Phil Schaffner @redhat.com on 09/17/2004 03:40:39 PM replied: > On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 14:47 -0400, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > > > "Noah Silva [Mailing list]" @redhat.com > > on 09/17/2004 02:18:00 PM said: > > > > > > > The DRIVE should show up as /dev/sda, the data partition should usually > > be > > > /dev/sda1. Unfortunately my [sony] memory stick seems not to work under > > > FC2 at least, but it doesn't cause hanging problems, it just doesn't work > > > at all. > > > > It may be due to the fact that FC2 added ACPI support and your machine > > has a buggy ACPI BIOS (like mine did). All my USB stuff stopped working > > when I switched to FC2. > > > > Go back throught the archives and look for USB and ACPI for _my_ problem > > and solution. > > Memorex thumb drive worked for me ("giant floppy mode" /dev/sda or /dev/ > sdb - depending...) as well as external an USB hard drive (/dev/sda1 > or /dev/sdb1) on FC1, FC2, and FC3T1 (until an attempted update killed > the machine - another story), but only booting with noacpi. I suppose I could have tried 'noacpi', but I got everything to work (eventually) with ACPI still on. As I said... go back and look at my messages... it may help you. From michal at harddata.com Fri Sep 17 21:04:53 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:04:53 -0600 Subject: eth1 getting moved to eth0 In-Reply-To: <20040917192751.GC11039@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>; from notting@redhat.com on Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 03:27:51PM -0400 References: <1095437397.11261.10.camel@laptop> <20040917164644.GC9811@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1095443647.3667.12.camel@laptop> <20040917132117.B21333@mail.harddata.com> <20040917192751.GC11039@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040917150453.A24258@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 03:27:51PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Actually, if you do: > > alias frobozz e100 > > and have: > > DEVICE=frobozz > > in the ifcfg file, the standard scripts will rename it to whatever > you like. As long as this is not "eth0" or something like that... :-) Thanks Bill. It is good to know; although this seems to be one of those pieces of information which you can get only on some mailing list or from a deep study of all scripts coming into a play and there is quite a few of these with not always obvious interactions. I will have to try to play with that myself. One hopes that kudzu will not go bonkers. That would suggest that OP could name his network interfaces, say, "wired" and "less" and they will keep these names regardless of an order in which corresponding modules are loaded. Michal From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Sep 17 21:43:01 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:43:01 +0100 Subject: Anyone else finding a problem with transcode? In-Reply-To: <1095412353.4966.9.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <1095374332.26891.7.camel@T7.linux> <1095412353.4966.9.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <1095457381.31964.2.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > Try: setarch i386 Didn't work. > And see if that makes a difference. prelink/exec-shield might be to > blame How do I turn that darned thing off and never need to worry about it again? TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From notting at redhat.com Fri Sep 17 21:47:22 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:47:22 -0400 Subject: eth1 getting moved to eth0 In-Reply-To: <20040917150453.A24258@mail.harddata.com> References: <1095437397.11261.10.camel@laptop> <20040917164644.GC9811@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1095443647.3667.12.camel@laptop> <20040917132117.B21333@mail.harddata.com> <20040917192751.GC11039@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <20040917150453.A24258@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040917214722.GI11039@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Michal Jaegermann (michal at harddata.com) said: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 03:27:51PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > > Actually, if you do: > > > > alias frobozz e100 > > > > and have: > > > > DEVICE=frobozz > > > > in the ifcfg file, the standard scripts will rename it to whatever > > you like. > > As long as this is not "eth0" or something like that... :-) > > Thanks Bill. It is good to know; although this seems to be > one of those pieces of information which you can get only on > some mailing list or from a deep study of all scripts coming > into a play and there is quite a few of these with not always > obvious interactions. Hm, well, it's more that this is the default case, and that naming the devices eth0/eth1/eth2 and having that renaming work sort of falls out of it. > That would suggest that OP could name his network interfaces, > say, "wired" and "less" and they will keep these names regardless > of an order in which corresponding modules are loaded. Yes. Bill From steve at rueb.com Fri Sep 17 22:07:21 2004 From: steve at rueb.com (Steve Bergman) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:07:21 -0500 Subject: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> References: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <1095458841.11574.7.camel@voyager.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 21:33 +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > Hi, > Reiser4 has been officially released and considered stable by Mr. Hans > Reiser. Just out of curiosity, why would you want reiser4 in FC3? It's not ready. It's unclear as to whether its concepts are even a good idea, despite the Namesys marketing propaganda. -Steve Bergman From paul at dishone.st Sat Sep 18 02:13:16 2004 From: paul at dishone.st (Paul Jakma) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:13:16 +0100 (IST) Subject: Multi Wan Question In-Reply-To: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA769@server01.lotas-smartman.local> References: <26099AF88384A24CA9DF088ECD7BFBDBA769@server01.lotas-smartman.local> Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Tiernan OToole wrote: > I am hoping someone can help me here. I am looking for a way to > have multiple (2 in this case) WAN connections (Cable modems, again > in my case) on a Linux box. I have seen other ideas around, but I > hope that Fedora has the solution I need: ease of setup. I don't > have a lot of time to be messing with the system, so I would like > it to be installed and forgotten. Maybe one or two tweaks but with > a GUI and quick. Thanks in advance. Not a gui, but easy to setup (it's 90% comments i've just added now), just edit the 'isp_nets' variable to suit and put the realm/table names in /etc/iproute2/rt_realms: http://hibernia.jakma.org/~paul/rc.iprules then call the above from rc.local, or whereever. regards, -- Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie paul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortune: It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. -- Groucho Marx From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sat Sep 18 04:05:02 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:05:02 -0400 Subject: no USB jump/flash drive support yet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095480302.4737.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 16:26 -0400, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > I suppose I could have tried 'noacpi', > but I got everything to work (eventually) with ACPI still on. > As I said... go back and look at my messages... it may help you. Nope - should have said, the machine in question (IBM Thinkpad A21p) won't talk to the network with ACPI on since FC1, or depending on the kernel version even boot. With 541 won't even work with noacpi. Right now it's running WhiteBox 3.0. Bit of a problem child (or more like senile parent given the age). BZ #s 131293 128711 126028 Thanks anyway. Phil From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Sat Sep 18 05:00:34 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: Smashing my head against the Wall - Hanging Kernel Booting Message-ID: <414BC0F2.6090407@rogers.com> I just yumed against the latest version of the development tree. As of the 17th. I'm having a problem booting with a compiled version of the standard kernel from kernel.org. It's 2.6.8.1. After the initialization of the usb stuff. The cpu goes full steam and the machine just sits there. I did not have any problem with compiling a kernel before. So I though I have something wrong with my grub.conf. Just to let you know, kernel 2.6.8-1.541 boots fine. But since I do development work with the usbvision driver. I use the base kernel from kernel.org. What am I missing? I did turn off the SCSI stuff, because I thought it was the problem. There is no indication that there is a problem. Just stops booting and the cursor sits there. Thanks... Dwaine. # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,1) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=1 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.6.8.1) root (hd0,1) kernel /linux-2.6.8.1 ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb quiet title Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.541) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img From atie8591 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 18 05:19:10 2004 From: atie8591 at yahoo.com (Chris Ha) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? Message-ID: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> I think I got udev package onto my fc3 t1 box by updating all the packages from yesterday(09/17/04)'s development tree. After that, it manages my system unbootable as below. At boot message : warning : unable to open an initial console (just 2 more lines about SElinux - I don't recall) after these messages, booting process hangs there. If someone knows about how to fix, could you please help me out? I have checked /dev directory using Knoppix, and seems like many of device files are not there. I'd like to know how to fix, specially with Knoppix if possible, of course other ways of fixing are welcomed. Thanks, atie _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Sat Sep 18 05:50:48 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:50:48 -0400 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <414BCCB8.20302@rogers.com> Chris Ha wrote: >I think I got udev package onto my fc3 t1 box by >updating all the packages from yesterday(09/17/04)'s >development tree. After that, it manages my system >unbootable as below. > >At boot message : >warning : unable to open an initial console >(just 2 more lines about SElinux - I don't recall) > >after these messages, booting process hangs there. > >If someone knows about how to fix, could you please >help me out? > >I have checked /dev directory using Knoppix, and seems >like many of device files are not there. I'd like to >know how to fix, specially with Knoppix if possible, >of course other ways of fixing are welcomed. > >Thanks, >atie > > I'm having the same problem with booting. From al at authentidate.de Sat Sep 18 07:31:38 2004 From: al at authentidate.de (Andreas Laumann) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:31:38 +0200 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1095492698.4422.29.camel@justine.inexnet.de> Using also the latest rawhide from yesterday, BUT using kernel .579 as .581 gives me problems with that beast regarding to NVIDIA (not a complaint!;), the system is up and running fine! no problems with booting so far. Andreas Am Freitag, den 17.09.2004, 22:19 -0700 schrieb Chris Ha: > I think I got udev package onto my fc3 t1 box by > updating all the packages from yesterday(09/17/04)'s > development tree. After that, it manages my system > unbootable as below. > > At boot message : > warning : unable to open an initial console > (just 2 more lines about SElinux - I don't recall) > > after these messages, booting process hangs there. > > If someone knows about how to fix, could you please > help me out? > > I have checked /dev directory using Knoppix, and seems > like many of device files are not there. I'd like to > know how to fix, specially with Knoppix if possible, > of course other ways of fixing are welcomed. > > Thanks, > atie > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > -- Nope. I do it for all my firewalls. rpm -e perl is the highlight of the install experience ;) - Alan Cox - Andreas Laumann phone: +49 211 43 69 89-0 Chief Software Architect mobile: +49 172 783 7507 Authentidate International AG fax: +49 211 43 69 89-19 Grossenbaumer Weg 6 mail: al at authentidate.de 40472 Duesseldorf / Germany web: http://www.authentidate.de From talbotscott at cox.net Sat Sep 18 14:06:58 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:06:58 -0700 Subject: not installing FC3 test 2 In-Reply-To: <4149F663.9050606@aesgi.com> References: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <4149F663.9050606@aesgi.com> Message-ID: <1095516418.4636.0.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 13:24, Gregory G Carter wrote: > Yes, I do. > > Why not install a stock kernel from kernel.org? > > It is MUCH easier figuring out a specific support problem like this if > you start with a stock kernel, and one of the kernel guys, in my case > unofficial kernel guys, helps you determine the problem with a simple > .config file and recompile. > > Please write me some Email, with the following outputs and I will have a > look at it: > > lspci > cat /proc/devices > cat /proc/cpuinfo > cat /proc/interrupts > dmesg > uname -r I never get to a place I can run commands, so all I can give you is the copy of dmesg log. The kernel is the one shipped in the .iso (kernel-2.6.8-1.541.i686.rpm) > In addition please have the Serial # and OEM manufacturer of the MSI > mother board. Serial # appears to be A0180825-98 MOBO (MS-6523) is model 850 Pro2LE, if someone else made it, I don't see any sign of it. Thanks Scott -- If in doubt, VOTE 'EM OUT! -------------- next part -------------- Linux version 2.6.8-1.541 (bhcompile at porky.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.1 20040831 (Red Hat 3.4.1-10)) #1 Wed Sep 1 18:01:20 EDT 2004 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000000fff0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000fff0000 - 000000000fff3000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 000000000fff3000 - 0000000010000000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffb00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 255MB LOWMEM available. zapping low mappings. On node 0 totalpages: 65520 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 61424 pages, LIFO batch:14 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.3 present. ACPI: RSDP (v000 IntelR ) @ 0x000f69c0 ACPI: RSDT (v001 IntelR AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x0fff3000 ACPI: FADT (v001 IntelR AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x0fff3040 ACPI: DSDT (v001 INTELR AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x00000000 ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x4008 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/123 vga=792 rhgb quiet mapped 4G/4G trampoline to ffff4000. Initializing CPU#0 CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=023c6000 soft=023c5000 PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes) Detected 1523.170 MHz processor. Using tsc for high-res timesource Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Memory: 255248k/262080k available (2024k kernel code, 6220k reserved, 631k data, 144k init, 0k highmem) Calibrating delay loop... 3006.46 BogoMIPS (lpj=1503232) Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Capability LSM initialized as secondary Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) CPU: After generic identify, caps: 3febf9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 3febf9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K CPU: L2 cache: 256K CPU: After all inits, caps: 3febf1ff 00000000 00000000 00000080 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz stepping 0a Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger. checking if image is initramfs... it is Freeing initrd memory: 569k freed NET: Registered protocol family 16 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb0d0, last bus=2 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040715 ACPI: Interpreter enabled ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) get_random_bytes called before random driver initialization PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HUB0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK0] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[D] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 9 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.3[B] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.4[C] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 5 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:01.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK0] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:03.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 get_random_bytes called before random driver initialization vesafb: framebuffer at 0xe0000000, mapped to 0x12880000, size 4608k vesafb: mode is 1024x768x24, linelength=3072, pages=27 vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:481e vesafb: scrolling: redraw vesafb: Truecolor: size=0:8:8:8, shift=0:16:8:0 fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac) apm: overridden by ACPI. audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) audit(1095377208.352:0): initialized Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks Initializing Cryptographic API ksign: Installing public key data Loading keyring - Added public key EB180CB126A51024 - User ID: Red Hat, Inc. (Kernel Module GPG key) pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 ACPI: Fan [FAN] (on) ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1 C2, 2 throttling states) ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (62 C) isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48 Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones agpgart: Detected an Intel i850 Chipset. agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe8000000 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing enabled ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device lo Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ICH2: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1 ICH2: chipset revision 4 ICH2: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: IC35L040AVER07-0, ATA DISK drive hdb: IOMEGA ZIP 250 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive Using cfq io scheduler ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: WDC WD1000BB-00CAA0, ATA DISK drive hdd: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Probing IDE interface ide2... ide2: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide3... ide3: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide4... ide4: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide5... ide5: Wait for ready failed before probe ! hda: max request size: 128KiB hda: 80418240 sectors (41174 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) hda: cache flushes not supported hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 > hdc: max request size: 128KiB hdc: 195371568 sectors (100030 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(33) hdc: cache flushes not supported hdc: hdc1 hdc2 hdc3 hdc4 < hdc5 hdc6 hdc7 hdc8 hdc9 hdc10 hdc11 hdc12 > hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide hdb: No disk in drive hdb: 0kB, 0/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm usbcore: registered new driver hiddev usbcore: registered new driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 16Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 4681) Initializing IPsec netlink socket NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 17 ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5) ACPI wakeup devices: SLPB PCI0 HUB0 USB0 USB1 Freeing unused kernel memory: 144k freed kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. SELinux: Disabled at runtime. SELinux: Unregistering netfilter hooks inserting floppy driver for 2.6.8-1.541 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:01.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xa000, 00:40:f4:14:f9:61, IRQ 11 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C' ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49359 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 48000 i8xx TCO timer: initialized (0x4060). heartbeat=30 sec (nowayout=0) hw_random: RNG not detected USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[D] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: UHCI Host Controller PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: irq 11, io base 0000b000 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.4[C] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: UHCI Host Controller PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.4 to 64 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: irq 11, io base 0000b400 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0005 usbcore: registered new driver usblp drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver NET: Registered protocol family 10 Disabled Privacy Extensions on device 02359760(lo) IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device sit0 mtrr: 0xe0000000,0x4000000 overlaps existing 0xe0000000,0x400000 [drm] Initialized radeon 1.11.0 20020828 on minor 0: mtrr: 0xe0000000,0x4000000 overlaps existing 0xe0000000,0x400000 agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB] EXT3 FS on hdc12, internal journal device-mapper: 4.1.0-ioctl (2003-12-10) initialised: dm at uk.sistina.com ide-floppy: hdb: I/O error, pc = 0, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0 ide-floppy: hdb: I/O error, pc = 1b, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0 hdb: No disk in drive cdrom: open failed. Adding 506036k swap on /dev/hdc2. Priority:-1 extents:1 From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 18 14:26:29 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:26:29 -0500 Subject: Smashing my head against the Wall - Hanging Kernel Booting In-Reply-To: <414BC0F2.6090407@rogers.com> References: <414BC0F2.6090407@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200409180926.29700.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 18 September 2004 00:00, Dwaine Garden wrote: > I just yumed against the latest version of the development tree. > As of the 17th. > > I'm having a problem booting with a compiled version of the > standard kernel from kernel.org. > It's 2.6.8.1. > > After the initialization of the usb stuff. The cpu goes full > steam and the machine just sits there. I did not have any > problem with compiling a kernel before. So I though I have > something wrong with my grub.conf. > > Just to let you know, kernel 2.6.8-1.541 boots fine. But since > I do development work with the usbvision driver. I use the base > kernel from kernel.org. > > What am I missing? I did turn off the SCSI stuff, because I > thought it was the problem. There is no indication that there > is a problem. Just stops booting and the cursor sits there. > > Thanks... > Dwaine. Dwaine, Could the fact that the "dev-" package has been removed in favor of the "udev" mechanism be part of your problem; i.e. have you run mkinitrd against your compiled kernel? Regards, Mike Klinke From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 18 14:39:14 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:39:14 -0500 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200409180939.14555.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 18 September 2004 00:19, Chris Ha wrote: > I think I got udev package onto my fc3 t1 box by > updating all the packages from yesterday(09/17/04)'s > development tree. After that, it manages my system > unbootable as below. > > At boot message : > warning : unable to open an initial console > (just 2 more lines about SElinux - I don't recall) > > after these messages, booting process hangs there. > > If someone knows about how to fix, could you please > help me out? > > I have checked /dev directory using Knoppix, and seems > like many of device files are not there. I'd like to > know how to fix, specially with Knoppix if possible, > of course other ways of fixing are welcomed. > > Thanks, > atie > I ran into the "won't boot" symptom too because I had previously turned off the 'udev' mechanism in conjunction with initrd (a udev configuration item). However, with yesterdays updates I found I had to re-enable the udev/initrd feature and re-run mkinitrd against the chosen kernel package in order to boot. for example: mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img 2.6.8-1.541 Regards, Mike Klinke From mcleodg at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 16:02:22 2004 From: mcleodg at gmail.com (Gord McLeod) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:02:22 -0400 Subject: Frustrating update problem Message-ID: Greetings, I'm having an embarassingly newbieish problem that I've been trying for days to find an answer to without much luck so far. I'm testing out Fedora Core 3 Test 1, and up2date will not run on the system. Sometimes it gets as far as asking me for the root password (if I'm logged in under my usual username), but whether it does that or not, the program never executes. Additionally, yum won't update the system due to dependancy conflicts with two packages. Error: missing dep: iiimf-server for pkg iimf-le-sun-asia Error: xorg-x11-font-utils conflicts: xorg-x11-base-fonts<= 6.7.99.903-3 Any suggestions on where I might get the needed packages, or even which packages I could safely remove to get rid of this? Or heck, even a command to make yum ignore the set of packages with the dependancy problems and just update everything it CAN update? I'm a good 800+ updates behind and would like to catch up. Thanks in advance for any assistance. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 18 16:04:11 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:04:11 +0100 Subject: Scanner seems to have vanished Message-ID: <1095523451.4933.61.camel@T7.linux> Hi, When I start my PC up, FC finds my SCSI scanner quite happily (I have an Adaptec AHA7850 SCSI controller). When I run kooka, only my USB webcam is found. The module loaded is the aic7xxx for the SCSI card. This has never skipped a beat or failed. The aic module is being used by scsi_mod, which looks about right. Any idea on getting the scanner working again or do I need to a kernel recompile for support of my Mustek Paragon 600 II CD? TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is the sg module loaded? does modprobe sg load the sg module? does sane-find-scanner see the scanner after the sg module is loaded? -jef From kimmo.koivisto at surfeu.fi Sat Sep 18 16:12:25 2004 From: kimmo.koivisto at surfeu.fi (Kimmo Koivisto) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:12:25 +0300 Subject: Frustrating update problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200409181912.25962.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> On Saturday 18 September 2004 19:02, Gord McLeod wrote: > Greetings, > > Error: missing dep: iiimf-server for pkg iimf-le-sun-asia > Error: xorg-x11-font-utils conflicts: xorg-x11-base-fonts<= 6.7.99.903-3 > > Any suggestions on where I might get the needed packages, or even > which packages I could safely remove to get rid of this? Or heck, even > a command to make yum ignore the set of packages with the dependancy > problems and just update everything it CAN update? I'm a good 800+ > updates behind and would like to catch up. > > Thanks in advance for any assistance. I have had the same error with xorg-x11-base-fonts and excluded xorg-x11-font-utils in yum.conf. exclude=xorg-x11-font-utils Regards Kimmo Koivisto From manu at kromtek.com Sat Sep 18 16:03:29 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:03:29 +0400 Subject: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <1095458841.11574.7.camel@voyager.localdomain> References: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> <1095458841.11574.7.camel@voyager.localdomain> Message-ID: <200409182003.29644.manu@kromtek.com> On Sat September 18 2004 2:07 am, Steve Bergman wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 21:33 +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > > Hi, > > Reiser4 has been officially released and considered stable by Mr. Hans > > Reiser. > > Just out of curiosity, why would you want reiser4 in FC3? Reiser4 sounds cool, that's why. > > It's not ready. It's unclear as to whether its concepts are even a good > idea, despite the Namesys marketing propaganda. what makes one think so ? Manu > > -Steve Bergman From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 18 16:26:03 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:26:03 +0100 Subject: Scanner seems to have vanished In-Reply-To: <604aa791040918091250ccbc9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1095523451.4933.61.camel@T7.linux> <604aa791040918091250ccbc9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1095524763.4933.64.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > Any idea on getting the scanner working again or do I need to a kernel > > recompile for support of my Mustek Paragon 600 II CD? > > Does the scanner need the sg module loaded? It never has in the past > Is the sg module loaded? Yes. Just in case it needed it, I modprobed it in > does modprobe sg load the sg module? Yes > does sane-find-scanner see the scanner after the sg module is loaded? Nope. It gives the following output # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure that # you have loaded a SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter. found USB scanner (vendor=0x05a9, product=0xa511) at libusb:001:002 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. # Not checking for parallel port scanners. # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports # can't be detected by this program. # You may want to run this program as root to find all devices. Once you # found the scanner devices, be sure to adjust access permissions as # necessary. In other words, it can't find the scanner. TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Sat Sep 18 16:35:07 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:35:07 -0400 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <200409180939.14555.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409180939.14555.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <414C63BB.6010702@rogers.com> Mike Klinke wrote: >On Saturday 18 September 2004 00:19, Chris Ha wrote: > > >>I think I got udev package onto my fc3 t1 box by >>updating all the packages from yesterday(09/17/04)'s >>development tree. After that, it manages my system >>unbootable as below. >> >>At boot message : >>warning : unable to open an initial console >>(just 2 more lines about SElinux - I don't recall) >> >>after these messages, booting process hangs there. >> >>If someone knows about how to fix, could you please >>help me out? >> >>I have checked /dev directory using Knoppix, and seems >>like many of device files are not there. I'd like to >>know how to fix, specially with Knoppix if possible, >>of course other ways of fixing are welcomed. >> >>Thanks, >>atie >> >> >> > >I ran into the "won't boot" symptom too because I had previously >turned off the 'udev' mechanism in conjunction with initrd (a udev >configuration item). However, with yesterdays updates I found I >had to re-enable the udev/initrd feature and re-run mkinitrd >against the chosen kernel package in order to boot. > >for example: > > mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img 2.6.8-1.541 > >Regards, Mike Klinke > > > > I recompiled the kernel again from scratch. Same thing... Who do you re-enable the udev/initrd features? I must have it off with the compiled version of the kernel.org kernel. From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 18 16:45:16 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:45:16 -0500 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <414C63BB.6010702@rogers.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409180939.14555.lsomike@futzin.com> <414C63BB.6010702@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200409181145.16455.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 18 September 2004 11:35, DG wrote: > > I recompiled the kernel again from scratch. Same thing... Who > do you re-enable the udev/initrd features? > I must have it off with the compiled version of the kernel.org > kernel. Two things I did that led to my inability to boot was using the --noudev switch on the mkinitrd command line and in the udev configuration file: /etc/udev/udev.conf I had the line: UDEV_INITRD="no" After changing that line to: UDEV_INITRD="yes" and then rebuilding the initrd*.img file without the --noudev switch I could then boot just fine into the .541 kernel. Regards, Mike Klinke From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Sat Sep 18 17:06:56 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:06:56 -0400 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <200409181145.16455.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409180939.14555.lsomike@futzin.com> <414C63BB.6010702@rogers.com> <200409181145.16455.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <414C6B30.4070003@rogers.com> Mike Klinke wrote: >On Saturday 18 September 2004 11:35, DG wrote: > > > >Two things I did that led to my inability to boot was using the >--noudev switch on the mkinitrd command line and in the udev >configuration file: > >/etc/udev/udev.conf > >I had the line: > >UDEV_INITRD="no" > > >After changing that line to: > >UDEV_INITRD="yes" > >and then rebuilding the initrd*.img file without the --noudev switch >I could then boot just fine into the .541 kernel. > >Regards, Mike Klinke > > > > I'm ok there. the UDEV_INITRD='yes' is set fine. My fedora .541 kernel boots ok. But the plain kernel.org kernel does not. Ummm... I must be missing something. Dwaine. From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 18 17:18:05 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:18:05 -0500 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <414C6B30.4070003@rogers.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409181145.16455.lsomike@futzin.com> <414C6B30.4070003@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200409181218.05912.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:06, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > I'm ok there. the UDEV_INITRD='yes' is set fine. My fedora > .541 kernel boots ok. But the plain kernel.org kernel > does not. Ummm... I must be missing something. > > Dwaine. >From your first note, I notice that you don't have an initrd specified. Did you add that to your grub.conf after you created it? Regards, Mike Klinke #boot=/dev/hda default=1 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.6.8.1) root (hd0,1) kernel /linux-2.6.8.1 ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb quiet title Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.541) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Sat Sep 18 17:36:44 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:36:44 -0400 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <200409181218.05912.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409181145.16455.lsomike@futzin.com> <414C6B30.4070003@rogers.com> <200409181218.05912.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <414C722C.7080707@rogers.com> Mike Klinke wrote: >On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:06, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > > >>I'm ok there. the UDEV_INITRD='yes' is set fine. My fedora >>.541 kernel boots ok. But the plain kernel.org kernel >>does not. Ummm... I must be missing something. >> >>Dwaine. >> >> > >>From your first note, I notice that you don't have an initrd >specified. Did you add that to your grub.conf after you created >it? > >Regards, Mike Klinke > > >#boot=/dev/hda >default=1 >timeout=10 >splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz >title Fedora Core (2.6.8.1) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /linux-2.6.8.1 ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb quiet >title Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.541) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img > > > > title Fedora Core (2.6.8.1) root (hd0,1) kernel /linux-2.6.8.1 ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.8.1.img Try this and the same problem. Just sits there after the usb stuff and the cpu is maxed out. I did wait until about 2 minutes and nothing. Just sits there.... Again, the .541 kernel works fine... Any other suggestions? Dwaine. From train at voicenet.com Sat Sep 18 17:38:49 2004 From: train at voicenet.com (Herbert Rutledge) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:38:49 -0400 Subject: Scanner seems to have vanished In-Reply-To: <1095524763.4933.64.camel@T7.linux> References: <1095523451.4933.61.camel@T7.linux> <604aa791040918091250ccbc9@mail.gmail.com> <1095524763.4933.64.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1095529129.4565.14.camel@trilon> On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 17:26 +0100, Paul wrote: > In other words, it can't find the scanner. Oh kontrare: found USB scanner (vendor=0x05a9, product=0xa511) at libusb:001:002 It found the scanner, just like it says, using libusb. Edit the relevant conf file for your scanner in /etc/sane.d to use libusb as shown below. Default entry is commented out: # /dev/usb/scanner0 Add right after that: usb libusb:001:002 See if it finds it now. -train From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 18 17:55:14 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:55:14 +0100 Subject: Scanner seems to have vanished In-Reply-To: <1095529129.4565.14.camel@trilon> References: <1095523451.4933.61.camel@T7.linux> <604aa791040918091250ccbc9@mail.gmail.com> <1095524763.4933.64.camel@T7.linux> <1095529129.4565.14.camel@trilon> Message-ID: <1095530114.4933.71.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > In other words, it can't find the scanner. > > Oh kontrare: > > found USB scanner (vendor=0x05a9, product=0xa511) at libusb:001:002 > > It found the scanner, just like it says, using libusb. Nope. That's not a scanner, that's the webcam. If I run xsane, it gives me the choice of two devices OV511+ USB Camera virtual device v4l:/dev/video1 OV511+ USB Camera virtual device v4l:/dev/video0 Which according to /sbin/lsusb is correct Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:a511 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV511+ Webcam TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 18 18:02:14 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:02:14 -0500 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <414C722C.7080707@rogers.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409181218.05912.lsomike@futzin.com> <414C722C.7080707@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200409181302.14256.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:36, Dwaine Garden wrote: > >#boot=/dev/hda > >default=1 > >timeout=10 > >splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > >title Fedora Core (2.6.8.1) > > root (hd0,1) > > kernel /linux-2.6.8.1 ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb quiet > >title Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.541) > > root (hd0,1) > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet > > initrd /initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img > > title Fedora Core (2.6.8.1) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /linux-2.6.8.1 ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.8.1.img > > Try this and the same problem. Just sits there after the usb > stuff and the cpu is maxed out. I did wait until about 2 minutes > and nothing. Just sits there.... > > Again, the .541 kernel works fine... > > Any other suggestions? > > Dwaine. Well, we're beginning to exhaust whatever "expertise" I have in trying to get udev and your compiled kernel working. I suppose another approach would be to see if you can re-install your "dev-" package but I don't know if that was removed from FC3T1 for a specific reason in yesterday's updates or if it was just a "left-hand/right-hand" oversight. If someone can shed any more light here, please feel free to jump in.... Regards, Mike Klinke From rpjday at mindspring.com Sat Sep 18 17:23:00 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <200409181218.05912.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409181145.16455.lsomike@futzin.com> <414C6B30.4070003@rogers.com> <200409181218.05912.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004, Mike Klinke wrote: > On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:06, Dwaine Garden wrote: > >> >> I'm ok there. the UDEV_INITRD='yes' is set fine. My fedora >> .541 kernel boots ok. But the plain kernel.org kernel >> does not. Ummm... I must be missing something. >> >> Dwaine. > >> From your first note, I notice that you don't have an initrd > specified. Did you add that to your grub.conf after you created > it? > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > > #boot=/dev/hda > default=1 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > title Fedora Core (2.6.8.1) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /linux-2.6.8.1 ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb quiet > title Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.541) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet ^^^^^^^^ sure you don't want to have that refer to the device instead, as it does in the first example? rday From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 18 18:14:39 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:14:39 +0100 Subject: Scanner seems to have vanished In-Reply-To: <1095530114.4933.71.camel@T7.linux> References: <1095523451.4933.61.camel@T7.linux> <604aa791040918091250ccbc9@mail.gmail.com> <1095524763.4933.64.camel@T7.linux> <1095529129.4565.14.camel@trilon> <1095530114.4933.71.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1095531279.5037.1.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Looks like a permissions problem, though it should be fine really. I've created a group called scanner and made all users a member of that group. I then tried chown root.scanner /dev/sg0 and then run kooka. Didn't work. I then did a chown paul.scanner /dev/sg0 and it's working now. However, won't that mean that any other user won't be able to access the scanner? TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Sep 18 18:39:44 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:39:44 -0400 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <414C6B30.4070003@rogers.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409181145.16455.lsomike@futzin.com> <414C6B30.4070003@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200409181439.44402.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 18 September 2004 13:06, Dwaine Garden wrote: >Mike Klinke wrote: >>On Saturday 18 September 2004 11:35, DG wrote: >> >> >> >>Two things I did that led to my inability to boot was using the >>--noudev switch on the mkinitrd command line and in the udev >>configuration file: >> >>/etc/udev/udev.conf >> >>I had the line: >> >>UDEV_INITRD="no" >> >> >>After changing that line to: >> >>UDEV_INITRD="yes" >> >>and then rebuilding the initrd*.img file without the --noudev >> switch I could then boot just fine into the .541 kernel. >> >>Regards, Mike Klinke > >I'm ok there. the UDEV_INITRD='yes' is set fine. My fedora .541 >kernel boots ok. But the plain kernel.org kernel >does not. Ummm... I must be missing something. > >Dwaine. Since the kernel.org kernels do not yet have udev support available as a compile time option, I suspect you will have to conjure up a way to run MAKDEV to populate the /dev directory as its probably quite sparsely populated now. After seeing all the discussion about it quite some time ago, I've expected it to show up, but it has not. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From michal at harddata.com Sat Sep 18 19:52:51 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:52:51 -0600 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <200409181439.44402.gene.heskett@verizon.net>; from gene.heskett@verizon.net on Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 02:39:44PM -0400 References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409181145.16455.lsomike@futzin.com> <414C6B30.4070003@rogers.com> <200409181439.44402.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040918135251.A12883@mail.harddata.com> On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 02:39:44PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Since the kernel.org kernels do not yet have udev support available as > a compile time option, The same applies to kernels from your test installations. There is no "udev kernel support". All of that is in a user space. You have to load that early and it is using various information from a kernel but this is something else. OTOH you better configure CONFIG_TMPFS=y or you will have distinct troubles mounting your /dev. Also 'mkinitrd' has '--noudev' switch. Not documented but it works if you really need it. :-) No guarantees, of course, that it will stay there for the future but you may always edit /etc/udev/udev.conf and put there USE_UDEV="no". Michal From jbinpg at shaw.ca Sat Sep 18 20:27:58 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:27:58 -0700 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <200409181302.14256.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409181218.05912.lsomike@futzin.com> <414C722C.7080707@rogers.com> <200409181302.14256.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <20040918202758.GA4081@shaw.ca> On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 01:02:14PM -0500, Mike Klinke wrote: > On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:36, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > > >#boot=/dev/hda > > >default=1 > > >timeout=10 > > >splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > > >title Fedora Core (2.6.8.1) > > > root (hd0,1) > > > kernel /linux-2.6.8.1 ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb quiet > > >title Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.541) > > > root (hd0,1) > > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet > > > initrd /initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img > > > > title Fedora Core (2.6.8.1) > > root (hd0,1) > > kernel /linux-2.6.8.1 ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb quiet > > initrd /initrd-2.6.8.1.img > > > > Try this and the same problem. Just sits there after the usb > > stuff and the cpu is maxed out. I did wait until about 2 minutes > > and nothing. Just sits there.... > > > > Again, the .541 kernel works fine... > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > Dwaine. > > Well, we're beginning to exhaust whatever "expertise" I have in > trying to get udev and your compiled kernel working. > > I suppose another approach would be to see if you can re-install > your "dev-" package but I don't know if that was removed from FC3T1 > for a specific reason in yesterday's updates or if it was just a > "left-hand/right-hand" oversight. > > If someone can shed any more light here, please feel free to jump > in.... I agree with Robert...change your root=LABEL=/1 to /root=/dev/hda3 for giggles and see what happens. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 18 20:47:47 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:47:47 -0500 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <20040918202758.GA4081@shaw.ca> References: <20040918051910.43263.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> <200409181302.14256.lsomike@futzin.com> <20040918202758.GA4081@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <200409181547.47007.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 18 September 2004 15:27, JB wrote: > > I agree with Robert...change your root=LABEL=/1 to > /root=/dev/hda3 for giggles and see what happens. His .541 kernel is booting (the one with the LABEL) but his compiled kernel (the one with the /dev/hda3) isn't so unless I misunderstand I think that's OK. Regards, Mike Klinke From yekkim at pacbell.net Sat Sep 18 21:48:16 2004 From: yekkim at pacbell.net (Mickey Stein) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:48:16 -0700 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 44 In-Reply-To: <20040918195328.A448F7361D@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040918195328.A448F7361D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <414CAD20.2030102@pacbell.net> > > > n Saturday 18 September 2004 13:06, Dwaine Garden wrote: > >>>Mike Klinke wrote: >> >> >>>>>On Saturday 18 September 2004 11:35, DG wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Two things I did that led to my inability to boot was using the >>>>>--noudev switch on the mkinitrd command line and in the udev >>>>>configuration file: >>>>> >>>>>/etc/udev/udev.conf >>>>> >>>>>I had the line: >>>>> >>>>>UDEV_INITRD="no" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>After changing that line to: >>>>> >>>>>UDEV_INITRD="yes" >>>>> >>>>>and then rebuilding the initrd*.img file without the --noudev >>>>> switch I could then boot just fine into the .541 kernel. >>>>> >>>>>Regards, Mike Klinke >>> >>> >>> >>>I'm ok there. the UDEV_INITRD='yes' is set fine. My fedora .541 >>>kernel boots ok. But the plain kernel.org kernel >>>does not. Ummm... I must be missing something. >>> >>>Dwaine. >> >> I've had this problem now and then with udev enabled (using the latest rawhide tree of course). Here's a few things you might try: (my examples are using kernel.org kernel 2.6.9-rc2 at the moment, so whatever I write will reflect that. Change to fit your setup) - Kernel.org kernels (2.6+ anway) work ok with udev but you'd at least have to have this one option enabled for it to work: $ grep -i hotplug /usr/src/linux-2.6.9-rc2/.config CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y I just use the old $make xconfig from the new kernel directory while in X and search around for that but you can also just plug it in manually. That's pretty basic. - Fedora's version of udev has given me some troubles (udev-030-26) that appear to come as a result of a buggy /sbin/start_udev script. (buggy in some configurations probably, but not all). In my case, it just didn't create the new devices, period. I switched over to using the kernel.org latest udev (udev-032), building it and installing it, and making sure that the scripts and binaries are installed manually afterwards. Udev is definitely a work-in-progress and fedora does things it's own way, so this takes a little watchful doing to get working at times. By the way, the start_udev script is actually , I think, in a subdirectory of udev-032 called extras. Copy it over /sbin/start_udev. - So how would you do all of this on a system that won't boot? I think I did it all on a non-booting system using an fc3 cd #1 i'd made as the boot disk and booting via "linux rescue", then after bootup, changing root (chroot /mnt/sysimage) as directed by the bootup process. I don't use any ramdisk (from mkinitrd etc) and I'm sure that could be a point of contention, but for me, I only had to be sure that the kernel.org/kernel/utils version of udev-032 was built and installed and that a "$chkconfig --list | grep -i hotplug" showed that hotplug was enabled on startup. - the statements in recent initscripts rc.sysinit file of the nature of ". /etc/udev/udev.conf; /sbin/start_udev" should be following (not necessarily immediately) the mounting of /sys & /proc filesystems. You should see output to the tune of "creating udev devices.... complete" right before init 3 is invoked. (or init 5, whatever you have setup). - Keep the /etc/udev/udev.conf and /etc/udev/rules.d/50*.rules files that came out fedora's udev package because fedora needs them to start udev. (note a section in the middle of that file " # Additional configuration options added by Red Hat #################################################### - good luck. I'm sure I could be forgetting something, but this is pretty much what worked for me and timewise, it really beat restoring a backup or any other alterative. Reinstalling *dev*, running MAKEDEV will basically only create a single dev at a time and you have to feed it everything. The start_udev script if its the correct one, will invoke it to make every dev based on your configuration. Allowing for mistakes, fumbles, and just flailing like mad, this should take about 30 minutes to fix. Even though the udev documentation is pretty convoluted and obtuse, its a must-read if you ever want to get the udev rules and permissions under hand. If this , by some miracle, happens to help, but you then get into a race condition problem between hald and udev or see udev processes using a lot of cpu, I've got just the fedora bugzilla report for you ;) --------- From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat Sep 18 22:19:51 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:19:51 +0200 Subject: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <200409182003.29644.manu@kromtek.com> References: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> <1095458841.11574.7.camel@voyager.localdomain> <200409182003.29644.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <1095545985.25149.59.camel@one.myworld> Le sam 18/09/2004 ? 18:03, Manu Abraham a ?crit : > On Sat September 18 2004 2:07 am, Steve Bergman wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 21:33 +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Reiser4 has been officially released and considered stable by Mr. Hans > > > Reiser. > > > > Just out of curiosity, why would you want reiser4 in FC3? > > Reiser4 sounds cool, that's why. > > > > It's not ready. It's unclear as to whether its concepts are even a good > > idea, despite the Namesys marketing propaganda. > what makes one think so ? > http://lwn.net/Articles/99232/ http://lwn.net/Articles/100148/ > Manu > > > > -Steve Bergman > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From anvil at livna.org Sat Sep 18 22:25:26 2004 From: anvil at livna.org (Dams) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:25:26 +0200 Subject: not installing FC3 test 2 In-Reply-To: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <1095546327.5428.3.camel@gruyere> Hmm... I got the same problem, and i've reported the bug on b.redhat.com https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132865 It's a persistent problem, even after the installation here.. I'm sort of glad not being the only one. D Le jeudi 16 septembre 2004 ? 13:13 -0700, Scott Talbot a ?crit : > not. When X is started, I get an 800 X 600 screen in the upper left of > my 1280 X 1024 display while the install continues. (I reported this bug > in freedesktop bugz 1175) > The first error I get is a box with the announcement: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Sep 18 23:22:35 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:22:35 -0500 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? In-Reply-To: <414CAD20.2030102@pacbell.net> References: <20040918195328.A448F7361D@hormel.redhat.com> <414CAD20.2030102@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <200409181822.35138.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 18 September 2004 16:48, Mickey Stein wrote: > > - good luck. I'm sure I could be forgetting something, but this > is pretty much what worked for me and timewise, it really beat > restoring a backup or any other alterative. Reinstalling *dev*, > running MAKEDEV will basically only create a single dev at a time > and you have to feed it everything. The start_udev script if its > the correct one, will invoke it to make every dev based on your > configuration. Allowing for mistakes, fumbles, and just flailing > like mad, this should take about 30 minutes to fix. Even though > the udev documentation is pretty convoluted and obtuse, its a > must-read if you ever want to get the udev rules and permissions > under hand. If this , by some miracle, happens to help, but you > then get into a race condition problem between hald and udev or > see udev processes using a lot of cpu, I've got just the fedora > bugzilla report for you ;) > > --------- Thanks for the notes Mickey ... Hopefully this will help Dwaine. Over the couse of FC3T1 I've tripped on udev a time or two and the "been there, done that" commentary is quite a interesting! I didn't see a bugzilla entry with your name, which one are you referring to? Regards, Mike Klinke From wtogami at redhat.com Sun Sep 19 02:09:47 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:09:47 -1000 Subject: [Fwd: reduce ioremap memory size for Adaptec I2O controllers] In-Reply-To: <20040916145118.GA25530@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <41484DF1.1000309@redhat.com> <20040915141641.GA15660@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <41498F5D.5020105@alfar.co.uk> <20040916145118.GA25530@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <414CEA6B.5020308@redhat.com> Alan Cox wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 02:04:29PM +0100, Dave wrote: > >>right), only some of the shared memory space need be mapped into system >>memory, with the rest available for use by other controllers? Is there any >>way to query or set this range before the messaging layer is established? >>(seems rather like a chicken and egg situation to me) > > > The problem is there is no way to find out. Markus latest changes hardcode > rules for the DPT controllers which seem to be the ones with the big > memory options so that should cure it for now > > http://linux.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5/cset at 414b32fbUqjVDwQAKnS1v7QLpVcyoQ?nav=index.html|ChangeSet at -4d Appears that the patch Alan mentioned has reached the upstream kernel yesterday. Hopefully the test3 kernel will incorporate this. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From atie8591 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 19 04:42:45 2004 From: atie8591 at yahoo.com (Chris Ha) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? Message-ID: <20040919044245.19684.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> My problem also gone with .541 kernel, but one more thing... VMWare. I am not sure this is related to /dev issue, but seems like that VMware looses it's configuration (Network and Sound under /dev) at every reboot. Thanks, atie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 19 05:24:48 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:24:48 -0400 Subject: another radeon error on newer card - laptop Message-ID: <414D1820.9030209@sbcglobal.net> I was testing the latest xorg-x11 version on my laptop to ensure that there were no incorporated changes that would effect my computer when FC3 becomes a reality. I found that after awhile running, I'd get fifo errors and would have to either reset the computer or if lucky, just have to reboot or wait long enough for it to exit. Anyway, attached to the xorg-x11 bug submitted for the radeon 7200 card is the results encountered with this later version radeon card. lspci shows this card as below. lspci -vvv results are attached to the bug report. 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1 This bug seemed to be triggered when using mozilla mail. Therefore, I'm using netscape mail to respond. I tried to use evo, but the default email addy for outgoing got in the way again. Jim https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1384 -- Ha. For once you're both wrong but not where you are thinking. - Larry McVoy to Linus Torvalds on linux-kernel From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 19 05:36:56 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:36:56 -0400 Subject: Frustrating update problem In-Reply-To: <200409181912.25962.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> References: <200409181912.25962.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> Message-ID: <414D1AF8.9050305@sbcglobal.net> Kimmo Koivisto wrote: > On Saturday 18 September 2004 19:02, Gord McLeod wrote: > >>Greetings, >> >>Error: missing dep: iiimf-server for pkg iimf-le-sun-asia >>Error: xorg-x11-font-utils conflicts: xorg-x11-base-fonts<= 6.7.99.903-3 >> >>Any suggestions on where I might get the needed packages, or even >>which packages I could safely remove to get rid of this? Or heck, even >>a command to make yum ignore the set of packages with the dependancy >>problems and just update everything it CAN update? I'm a good 800+ >>updates behind and would like to catch up. >> >>Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > > I have had the same error with xorg-x11-base-fonts and excluded > xorg-x11-font-utils in yum.conf. > > exclude=xorg-x11-font-utils > > > Regards > Kimmo Koivisto > > I got this problem when trying to install all of xorg-x11 programs on an fc2 machine. I then installed FC3T2 RC2 on the computer and updated, excluding the xorg-x11-font-utils program mentioned. Then, after installing the other rawhide programs unrelated to xorg, I ran up2date again and got the xorg-x11-font-utils package without any problems. One curiousity was that some of the older version packages that were from prior xorg packages were never pulled in and must be obsoleted. Anyway, after upgrading the computer and installing the xorgx11-font-utils package,no leftover packages are seen when querying xorg related packages. Jim -- Ha. For once you're both wrong but not where you are thinking. - Larry McVoy to Linus Torvalds on linux-kernel From manu at kromtek.com Sun Sep 19 07:25:53 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:25:53 +0400 Subject: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <1095545985.25149.59.camel@one.myworld> References: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> <200409182003.29644.manu@kromtek.com> <1095545985.25149.59.camel@one.myworld> Message-ID: <200409191125.53395.manu@kromtek.com> On Sun September 19 2004 2:19 am, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Le sam 18/09/2004 ? 18:03, Manu Abraham a ?crit : > > On Sat September 18 2004 2:07 am, Steve Bergman wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 21:33 +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Reiser4 has been officially released and considered stable by Mr. > > > > Hans Reiser. > > > > > > Just out of curiosity, why would you want reiser4 in FC3? > > > > Reiser4 sounds cool, that's why. > > > > > It's not ready. It's unclear as to whether its concepts are even a > > > good idea, despite the Namesys marketing propaganda. > > > > what makes one think so ? > > http://lwn.net/Articles/99232/ > http://lwn.net/Articles/100148/ I didn't know so many issues existed. I was aware of only about the 4k stack and the file/directory concept. Thanks for the info. I think then reiser4 should take the natural path. Manu > > > Manu > > > > > -Steve Bergman From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com Sun Sep 19 10:57:00 2004 From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:57:00 +0300 Subject: no USB jump/flash drive support yet In-Reply-To: <1095480302.4737.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> References: <1095480302.4737.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <1403218a040919035760deb003@mail.gmail.com> Well, Sony MicroVault here and JumpTrio memorystick reader, both work fine with FC2 without any options. Just make sure you try both /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:05:02 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 16:26 -0400, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > I suppose I could have tried 'noacpi', > > but I got everything to work (eventually) with ACPI still on. > > As I said... go back and look at my messages... it may help you. > > Nope - should have said, the machine in question (IBM Thinkpad A21p) > won't talk to the network with ACPI on since FC1, or depending on the > kernel version even boot. With 541 won't even work with noacpi. Right > now it's running WhiteBox 3.0. Bit of a problem child (or more like > senile parent given the age). > > BZ #s 131293 128711 126028 > > Thanks anyway. > > Phil > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- Mohamed Eldesoky www.eldesoky.net RHCE From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com Sun Sep 19 11:10:10 2004 From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:10:10 +0300 Subject: OpenOffice 1.1.2: calc crashes saving any file under FC2 In-Reply-To: <1095343443.6173.4.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <41499275.6000109@libero.it> <4149998A.4000707@earthlink.net> <1095343443.6173.4.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1403218a04091904103eab59f3@mail.gmail.com> Dan, made any use of this bugzilla report ?? http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=126088 On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:04:03 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > Hi, > > Forgot to say that OOo 1.1.2-5 will remove the -Os patch and should fix > your problem. Look for it soon. > > > > Dan > > On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 08:47 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > > Sean Carlos wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have attempted to use the developement Open Office 1.1.2 under FC2. I > > > should note that I installed it using --nodeps to avoid having to > > > install the evolution data components - perhaps my problem. Writer > > > works fine; I also used calc for a day without incident. Since the > > > second day (thus a reboot...), I have not been able to save a file > > > without Calc crashing. The crash is independent of the source file: > > > even a new file crashes , saving in OO format. The crash log is attached. > > > > > > Anyone have a similar experience? > > > > This is in Bugzilla. I don't recall the number, but if you search for > > it there, you can add your comments to the report. > > > > Gerry > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- Mohamed Eldesoky www.eldesoky.net RHCE From labproject at free.fr Sun Sep 19 12:36:40 2004 From: labproject at free.fr (DJ Anubis) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:36:40 +0200 Subject: Qt-3.3.3 missing SQLite Message-ID: <200409191436.40676.labproject@free.fr> Current builds of qt-3.3.3 do not include the SQLite plugin. A fixed spec file is available at: http://www.lab-project.net/component/option,com_docman/Itemid,25/task,view_category/catid,8 as well as a patch fixing the QTextEdit tab expansion bug. If this can help :) -- JCR aka DJ Anubis LAB Project Initiator & coordinator http://www.lab-project.net From jerryw4386 at msn.com Sun Sep 19 12:03:46 2004 From: jerryw4386 at msn.com (JERRY WHITMIRE) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:03:46 -0700 Subject: Hi Message-ID: Can someone help me i have tryed 6 times to download Fedora core 3 test 1 or 2 and gotten bad downloads everytime!!! It was the dvd version donot want to try again. I am useing a hi speed dsl at 100.5+ mega bit a sec. downloading it takes about 7 hours . I have used fedora core 2 test 1 and had problems useing the internet it would hang up and i would have to do a unclean reboot then things would realy get bad had to uninstall it. I may not have the same problems with Fedora Core 3 test 2 or 3 REALY LIKE THE LOOKS OF FEDORA !!!! Help Help!!! I use Whitebox witch is so so and the dirty word Windows Xp. Hope someone can help Jerry W. Whitmire 208 NW 8 TH AVE APT 18 Kelso Washington 98626 Jerryw4386 at msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tdiehl at rogueind.com Sun Sep 19 13:11:59 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Hi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004, JERRY WHITMIRE wrote: Please wrap your lines at 72-80 characters per line. It is hard to read. > Can someone help me i have tryed 6 times to download Fedora core 3 test 1 or 2 and gotten bad downloads everytime!!! > It was the dvd version donot want to try again. I am useing a hi speed dsl at 100.5+ mega bit a sec. downloading it takes about 7 hours . I have used fedora core 2 test 1 and had problems useing the internet it would hang up and i would have to do a unclean reboot then things would realy get bad had to uninstall it. > I may not have the same problems with Fedora Core 3 test 2 or 3 REALY LIKE THE LOOKS OF FEDORA !!!! Help Help!!! > I use Whitebox witch is so so and the dirty word Windows Xp. > Hope someone can help Use rsync to fix your existing download. You will need to find a site that supports public rsync. # rsync -avP path-to-your-download-site path-to-your-broken-iso should work. HTH, Tom -------------- next part -------------- -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From yekkim at pacbell.net Sun Sep 19 14:04:52 2004 From: yekkim at pacbell.net (Mickey Stein) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:04:52 -0700 Subject: udev and the case of the missing /dev directory.. In-Reply-To: <20040919131215.C944773CA7@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040919131215.C944773CA7@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <414D9204.80509@pacbell.net> > > >hanks for the notes Mickey ... Hopefully this will help Dwaine. >Over the couse of FC3T1 I've tripped on udev a time or two and the >"been there, done that" commentary is quite a interesting! > >I didn't see a bugzilla entry with your name, which one are you >referring to? > >Regards, Mike Klinke > Sorry Mike, I forgot to paste it in, and its not my bug orininally, but I might be the only person interested in it at the moment ;) URL: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116485 --------- This isn't quite the same thing, but its a problem where "udev vc" takes on a life of it's own, eating up cpu and process slots, etc. I've emailed Greg KH from the kernel list about it and it appears to be something happening more and more. Not really related to the problem at heart in not having device entries, but one you *might* have with a little more bad luck after this one is fixed. The good news is that I've a workaround in case you get the problem in the bug. Mick From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun Sep 19 16:00:50 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:00:50 +0200 Subject: Qt-3.3.3 missing SQLite In-Reply-To: <200409191436.40676.labproject@free.fr> References: <200409191436.40676.labproject@free.fr> Message-ID: <20040919180050.2fba0ceb.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:36:40 +0200, DJ Anubis wrote: > Current builds of qt-3.3.3 do not include the SQLite plugin. > > A fixed spec file is available at: > http://www.lab-project.net/component/option,com_docman/Itemid,25/task,view_category/catid,8 > SQLite is not included with Fedora Core, hence the "sqlite-devel" build requirement doesn't work. -- Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) - Linux 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 loadavg: 1.51 1.36 1.29 From labproject at free.fr Sun Sep 19 16:15:57 2004 From: labproject at free.fr (DJ Anubis) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:15:57 +0200 Subject: Qt-3.3.3 missing SQLite In-Reply-To: <20040919180050.2fba0ceb.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <200409191436.40676.labproject@free.fr> <20040919180050.2fba0ceb.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <200409191815.57993.labproject@free.fr> Le dimanche 19 Septembre 2004 18:00, Michael Schwendt a ?crit?: > On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:36:40 +0200, DJ Anubis wrote: > > Current builds of qt-3.3.3 do not include the SQLite plugin. > > > > A fixed spec file is available at: > > http://www.lab-project.net/component/option,com_docman/Itemid,25/ > >task,view_category/catid,8 > > SQLite is not included with Fedora Core, hence the "sqlite-devel" > build requirement doesn't work. Yes, I installed it from freshrpms repository. As it is totally free software, would be interesting to have it in FC, as a project is also on fire at OOo for making SQLite the default database for the suite. Anyway, the SPEC makes it optional, just setting the define to 0. -- JCR aka DJ Anubis LAB Project Initiator & coordinator From alan at redhat.com Sun Sep 19 16:30:55 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:30:55 -0400 Subject: Hi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040919163055.GA28494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 05:03:46AM -0700, JERRY WHITMIRE wrote: > Can someone help me i have tryed 6 times to download Fedora core 3 test 1 or 2 and gotten bad downloads everytime!!! Some people have had problems because the DVD is over 4Gb and not all software handles this well > It was the dvd version donot want to try again. I am useing a hi speed dsl at 100.5+ mega bit a sec. downloading it takes about 7 hours . I have used fedora core 2 test 1 and had problems useing the internet it would hang up and i would have to do a unclean reboot then things would realy get bad had to uninstall it. > I may not have the same problems with Fedora Core 3 test 2 or 3 REALY LIKE THE LOOKS OF FEDORA !!!! Help Help!!! Useful tip if your internet is ropey - you only need CD #1 to do a minimal install in US English. You can them use yum to add packages you want From jfm512 at free.fr Sun Sep 19 17:50:34 2004 From: jfm512 at free.fr (Jean Francois Martinez) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:50:34 +0200 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <1095545985.25149.59.camel@one.myworld> References: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> <1095458841.11574.7.camel@voyager.localdomain> <200409182003.29644.manu@kromtek.com> <1095545985.25149.59.camel@one.myworld> Message-ID: <1095616234.4609.78.camel@agnes> I have taken a quick look at the first article and I have a BIG problem with the benchmark part. First of all it looks like the guy divided his 4GB disk in two 2G partitions and installed Reiser on one partition and EXT3 in the other. WRONG! Modern disks have more sectors in the outer, lower numbered tracks. Meaning that you will get higher throughput from hda1 than from hda2. Second. I hope he stopped all daemons and performed his tests in single mode. He also compiled the kernel as a benchmark. 99% of times this is the touchstone for lack of proper thinking in benchmarking. Compiling a kernel is a terrible benchmark for a filesystem: first, because even on a machine with a 2000+ Athlon over 50% of the time will be spent crunching gcc code, the rest is kernel time (a good part of it not being FS related), and waiting for I/O (that is FS-related) so we can guess only about 25 or 30% of total time is influenced by FS, and you get "noise" from the other 70%. But on slower boxes like the one he used the relation from CPU (ie mostly gcc) to total time will be still higher But that is the not the sole reason why compiling a kernel is a poor benchmark: kernel source is a bunch of small files packed into moderately sized directories and its compiling it is only about _sequential_ access. What about the performance on huge files? What about direct access like needed for databases? What about huge directories? Compiling the kernel will teach you nothing about these. Same thing for grepping through the source code (but at least there is lesser user-mode cpu time) In addition a filesystem could be better at reading than at writing, when partition is nearly empty or when nearly full, when partition has been recently formatted or when it has had lots of insertions and deletions. Where are the tests for measuring those aspects of performance? Making a real benchmark involves ensuring that no external factors come to distort the resullts (eg using the same partition for both filesystems), that the tests are significative (ie they spent 90% of the time exerting what we are trying to measure) and that all important factors of performance are measured and withted for final evaluation Le dim 19/09/2004 ? 00:19, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > Le sam 18/09/2004 ? 18:03, Manu Abraham a ?crit : > > On Sat September 18 2004 2:07 am, Steve Bergman wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 21:33 +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Reiser4 has been officially released and considered stable by Mr. Hans > > > > Reiser. > > > > > > Just out of curiosity, why would you want reiser4 in FC3? > > > > Reiser4 sounds cool, that's why. > > > > > > It's not ready. It's unclear as to whether its concepts are even a good > > > idea, despite the Namesys marketing propaganda. > > what makes one think so ? > > > > http://lwn.net/Articles/99232/ > http://lwn.net/Articles/100148/ > > > Manu > > > > > > -Steve Bergman > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Sun Sep 19 18:12:42 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:12:42 -0400 Subject: udev and the case of the missing /dev directory.. In-Reply-To: <414D9204.80509@pacbell.net> References: <20040919131215.C944773CA7@hormel.redhat.com> <414D9204.80509@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <414DCC1A.7080001@rogers.com> Mickey Stein wrote: >> >> >> hanks for the notes Mickey ... Hopefully this will help Dwaine. Over >> the couse of FC3T1 I've tripped on udev a time or two and the "been >> there, done that" commentary is quite a interesting! >> >> I didn't see a bugzilla entry with your name, which one are you >> referring to? >> >> Regards, Mike Klinke >> > Sorry Mike, I forgot to paste it in, and its not my bug orininally, > but I might be the only person interested in it at the moment ;) > > URL: > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116485 > > --------- > This isn't quite the same thing, but its a problem where "udev vc" > takes on a life of it's own, eating up cpu and process slots, etc. > I've emailed Greg KH from the kernel list about it and it appears to > be something happening more and more. Not really related to the > problem at heart in not having device entries, but one you *might* > have with a little more bad luck after this one is fixed. The good > news is that I've a workaround in case you get the problem in the bug. > > Mick > > > It looks like I have the same problem as the bug. I'm going to turn off HAL and see what happens. I remember having the same problem with sysfs. Most likely it's a race between HAL and udev. 8*( Thanks to everyone for helping... Dwaine. From cekvenich.vic at portalvu.com Sun Sep 19 18:35:56 2004 From: cekvenich.vic at portalvu.com (Vic Cekvenich) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:35:56 -0500 Subject: FC3-64 test 1 shows snow at boot. Message-ID: <414DD18C.50802@portalvu.com> FC3-64 test 1 shows snow at boot, the disk is good and pc is good. What to do? .V -- Please post on Rich Internet Applications User Interface (RiA/SoA) From russell at coker.com.au Sun Sep 19 19:06:44 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 05:06:44 +1000 Subject: FC3-re0908.0-i386-disc1-ftp.iso - slow install Message-ID: <200409200506.44791.russell@coker.com.au> I booted up with the FC3T2 pre-release disk FC3-re0908.0-i386-disc1-ftp.iso and the install takes ages. My machine is a HP Vectra machine, P3-800, 256M of RAM, and USB keyboard. At the boot: prompt I press ENTER and it gives a boot screen which ends in the following: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). Greetings. anaconda installer init version 10.0.2 starting mounting /proc filesystem... done mounting /dev/pts (unix98 pty) filesystem... done mounting /sys filesystem... done trying to remount root filesystem read write... done mounting /tmp as ramfs... done running install... running /sbin/loader It stays for about two minutes with the above before getting to the "CD Found" screen. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From russell at coker.com.au Sun Sep 19 19:09:05 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 05:09:05 +1000 Subject: FC3-re0908.0-i386-disc1-ftp.iso - USB keyboard Message-ID: <200409200509.05209.russell@coker.com.au> After Linux has booted my USB keyboard is not recognised. The keyboard itself works fine (it worked on FC1 on the same machine). The BIOS recognises the keyboard (I can use all BIOS options with it and it is recognised at the boot: prompt). But when I get to the first stage of the install that involves Linux receiving keyboard input (the "CD Found" screen) the USB keyboard is not recognised and I have to install a PS/2 keyboard to get it to work. It seems that either the USB or the HID driver is not loaded as the caps-lock key does not cause the caps-lock LED to light up. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From yonasb at netzero.com Sun Sep 19 19:34:55 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonasb at netzero.com) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:34:55 GMT Subject: can't save in ooCalc (openoffice.org) Message-ID: <20040919.123455.22523.895703@webmail16.lax.untd.com> hi, I am having a problem saving in oocalc, the spreedsheet of openoffice.org. The save butten is grayed (deactivated) and the only I can do is 'save as". even if I did that, the oocalc crashes and bugbudy comes up. I don't know when it starts. all the other components (writer, impress draw) work fine with no problem. I try to remove all my personal setting in $HOME and didn't help. I uninstall it and installed it, I even created a new user and test it and all failed. I am using FC3 test 1 fully up2dated via yum. [yonasb at FC3t1 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i openoffice openoffice.org-libs-1.1.2-3 openoffice.org-1.1.2-3 any idea? --yonasb ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! From martinalderson at gmail.com Sun Sep 19 19:43:39 2004 From: martinalderson at gmail.com (Martin Alderson) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:43:39 +0100 Subject: can't save in ooCalc (openoffice.org) In-Reply-To: <20040919.123455.22523.895703@webmail16.lax.untd.com> References: <20040919.123455.22523.895703@webmail16.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <3d86007804091912434a0b5178@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:34:55 GMT, yonasb at netzero.com wrote: > > hi, > > I am having a problem saving in oocalc, the spreedsheet of openoffice.org. The save butten is grayed (deactivated) and the only I can do is 'save as". even if I did that, the oocalc crashes and bugbudy comes up. > > I don't know when it starts. all the other components (writer, impress draw) work fine with no problem. > > I try to remove all my personal setting in $HOME and didn't help. I uninstall it and installed it, I even created a new user and test it and all failed. > > I am using FC3 test 1 fully up2dated via yum. > > [yonasb at FC3t1 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i openoffice > openoffice.org-libs-1.1.2-3 > openoffice.org-1.1.2-3 > > any idea? This has been mentioned before. Apparently a new build will be out soon which will fix it. -- Get Firefox - Popup blocking, tabbed browsing and great security: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=9&t=1 From dcbw at redhat.com Sun Sep 19 22:07:30 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: can't save in ooCalc (openoffice.org) In-Reply-To: <20040919.123455.22523.895703@webmail16.lax.untd.com> References: <20040919.123455.22523.895703@webmail16.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: Hi, The crash is due to bad GCC optimization (or bad OOo code that GCC is optimizing). It will be fixed with 1.1.2-5, which is ready-to-go, but blocking on a GCC bug in the PPC build. Dan On Sun, 19 Sep 2004, yonasb at netzero.com wrote: > > hi, > > I am having a problem saving in oocalc, the spreedsheet of openoffice.org. The save butten is grayed (deactivated) and the only I can do is 'save as". even if I did that, the oocalc crashes and bugbudy comes up. > > I don't know when it starts. all the other components (writer, impress draw) work fine with no problem. > > I try to remove all my personal setting in $HOME and didn't help. I uninstall it and installed it, I even created a new user and test it and all failed. > > I am using FC3 test 1 fully up2dated via yum. > > [yonasb at FC3t1 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i openoffice > openoffice.org-libs-1.1.2-3 > openoffice.org-1.1.2-3 > > any idea? > > --yonasb > > ________________________________________________________________ > Get your name as your email address. > Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more > Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Sep 19 22:45:25 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:45:25 +0100 Subject: GMT for FC3t2 ISOs Message-ID: <1095633925.5610.1.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Roughly what time tomorrow (GMT) will the ISOs be up on the duke torrent site? My machine here is in need of fixing and I'll be using the FC3t2 discs to do it (it's currently using FC3t2-ish by updating via yum, so everything should be happy) TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mailinglists at andreas-mueller.com Sun Sep 19 23:26:07 2004 From: mailinglists at andreas-mueller.com (Andreas Mueller) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:26:07 +0200 Subject: GMT for FC3t2 ISOs In-Reply-To: <1095633925.5610.1.camel@T7.linux> References: <1095633925.5610.1.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <200409200126.07548.mailinglists@andreas-mueller.com> Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Roughly what time tomorrow (GMT) will the ISOs be up on the duke > torrent site? I think the release will be about 1000 EDT (1500 GMT). Regards, Andreas. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 20 01:12:08 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:12:08 -0400 Subject: Radeon - no DRI -24 depth error Message-ID: <414E2E68.5030805@sbcglobal.net> Whenever I try to use mozilla mail, I experience the two lines repeatedly. I also get this error on other programs, but this is less prevalent. The symptoms on-screen seem to be the loss of fonts for the text messages seem to disappear. After the lost text, the system slows down unbelievably. sometimes the system locks up and a hard reset is needed. The first sign was noted after the installation of xorg-x11-6.8.0-4 This happened with the FC2 version of moz and my current version mozilla-1.7.2-0.3.0 This is without DRI and 24 depth at 1024 x 768 resolution. (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... (EE) RADEON(0): FIFO timed out, resetting engine.. Anyway, this seems to be a close cousin to the problem that I had w/ the i810 driver. The difference being that this setting is the maximum for the laptop and the i810 seems to work well at 24 depth and 1280 x 1024 resolution. I am going to drop the depth to 16 for the radeon, but don't think that this sort of behavior is intended for the radeon or 810 drivers. Jim -- Kaufman's First Law of Party Physics: Population density is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the keg. From robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl Mon Sep 20 01:30:09 2004 From: robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl (Rob van Nieuwkerk) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 03:30:09 +0200 Subject: GMT for FC3t2 ISOs In-Reply-To: <200409200126.07548.mailinglists@andreas-mueller.com> References: <1095633925.5610.1.camel@T7.linux> <200409200126.07548.mailinglists@andreas-mueller.com> Message-ID: <20040920033009.49b28144.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:26:07 +0200 Andreas Mueller wrote: Hi, > > Roughly what time tomorrow (GMT) will the ISOs be up on the duke > > torrent site? > > I think the release will be about 1000 EDT (1500 GMT). World-wide FC3t2 release will be at: Mon Sep 20 14:00 UTC 2004 Mon Sep 20 10:00AM EDT 2004 Mon Sep 20 16:00 CEST 2004 You can find out other local times by typing: date -d "Mon Sep 20 14:00 UTC 2004" on systems configured for the right local timezone. greetings, Rob van Nieuwkerk From mark.bradbury at gmail.com Mon Sep 20 01:41:00 2004 From: mark.bradbury at gmail.com (Mark Bradbury) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:11:00 +0930 Subject: Frustrating update problem In-Reply-To: <414D1AF8.9050305@sbcglobal.net> References: <200409181912.25962.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> <414D1AF8.9050305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:36:56 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Kimmo Koivisto wrote: > > On Saturday 18 September 2004 19:02, Gord McLeod wrote: > > > >>Greetings, > >> > >>Error: missing dep: iiimf-server for pkg iimf-le-sun-asia > >>Error: xorg-x11-font-utils conflicts: xorg-x11-base-fonts<= 6.7.99.903-3 > >> > >>Any suggestions on where I might get the needed packages, or even > >>which packages I could safely remove to get rid of this? Or heck, even > >>a command to make yum ignore the set of packages with the dependancy > >>problems and just update everything it CAN update? I'm a good 800+ > >>updates behind and would like to catch up. > >> > >>Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > > > > > I have had the same error with xorg-x11-base-fonts and excluded > > xorg-x11-font-utils in yum.conf. > > > > exclude=xorg-x11-font-utils > > > > > > Regards > > Kimmo Koivisto > > > > > > I got this problem when trying to install all of xorg-x11 programs on an > fc2 machine. I then installed FC3T2 RC2 on the computer and updated, > excluding the xorg-x11-font-utils program mentioned. > Then, after installing the other rawhide programs unrelated to xorg, I > ran up2date again and got the xorg-x11-font-utils package without any > problems. > > One curiousity was that some of the older version packages that were > from prior xorg packages were never pulled in and must be obsoleted. > > Anyway, after upgrading the computer and installing the > xorgx11-font-utils package,no leftover packages are seen when querying > xorg related packages. > > Jim > > -- > Ha. For once you're both wrong but not where you are thinking. > > - Larry McVoy to Linus Torvalds on linux-kernel > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > I installed fonts-xorg-base-6.7.99.903-5 which seems to replace xorg-x11-base-fonts From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Sep 20 02:10:34 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 04:10:34 +0200 Subject: udev & hotplug Message-ID: <1095646230.1112.22.camel@one.myworld> There is something I can't understand. How udev and hotplug work together ? # cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug /sbin/hotplug # find etc/hotplug.d/ etc/dev.d/ etc/hotplug.d/ etc/hotplug.d/default etc/hotplug.d/default/10-udev.hotplug etc/hotplug.d/default/20-hal.hotplug etc/hotplug.d/default/default.hotplug etc/dev.d/ etc/dev.d/default etc/dev.d/default/pam_console.dev etc/dev.d/default/10-hal.dev etc/dev.d/net etc/dev.d/net/hotplug.dev hotplug call udev, udev call hal, then hotplug call hal also, udev use hotplug which use udev, etc, etc... Can someone explain how this works. Please. In /etc/udev/udev.conf, udev_remove_devicenodes is set to "no". Why ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From mcleodg at gmail.com Mon Sep 20 04:21:27 2004 From: mcleodg at gmail.com (Gord McLeod) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 00:21:27 -0400 Subject: Frustrating update problem In-Reply-To: References: <200409181912.25962.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> <414D1AF8.9050305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I'm still not having much luck despite the assistance (for which many thanks, by the way!) but it has given me some starting points. I'll keep hammering away at it in a few days when my schedule allows, and will seek further help if I get really stuck. On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:11:00 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:36:56 -0400, Jim Cornette > > > wrote: > > Kimmo Koivisto wrote: > > > On Saturday 18 September 2004 19:02, Gord McLeod wrote: .... (deleted to save space) From shadowssurround at hotpop.com Mon Sep 20 04:27:03 2004 From: shadowssurround at hotpop.com (Ryan James) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:27:03 -0700 Subject: Frustrating update problem In-Reply-To: References: <200409181912.25962.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> <414D1AF8.9050305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <414E5C17.9090602@hotpop.com> >I installed fonts-xorg-base-6.7.99.903-5 which seems to replace >xorg-x11-base-fonts > > that's what worked for me, up2date fonts-xorg*. From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 05:21:18 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:21:18 -1000 Subject: [Fwd: reduce ioremap memory size for Adaptec I2O controllers] In-Reply-To: <414CEA6B.5020308@redhat.com> References: <41484DF1.1000309@redhat.com> <20040915141641.GA15660@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <41498F5D.5020105@alfar.co.uk> <20040916145118.GA25530@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <414CEA6B.5020308@redhat.com> Message-ID: <414E68CE.4070808@redhat.com> http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3848 "Linux: Understanding The Stricter Type Checks for PCI memory mapping" "The solution provided involves a new interface called 'iomap', extending the earlier 'ioremap' function to properly work for both PIO (programmed input/output) and MMIO"... What are the possible implications of this for usage of ioremap in i2o? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Sep 20 06:45:04 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:45:04 +0200 Subject: udev & hotplug In-Reply-To: <1095646230.1112.22.camel@one.myworld> References: <1095646230.1112.22.camel@one.myworld> Message-ID: <1095662703.1112.28.camel@one.myworld> Le lun 20/09/2004 ? 04:10, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > There is something I can't understand. > How udev and hotplug work together ? > > # cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug > /sbin/hotplug > > # find etc/hotplug.d/ etc/dev.d/ > etc/hotplug.d/ > etc/hotplug.d/default > etc/hotplug.d/default/10-udev.hotplug > etc/hotplug.d/default/20-hal.hotplug > etc/hotplug.d/default/default.hotplug > etc/dev.d/ > etc/dev.d/default > etc/dev.d/default/pam_console.dev > etc/dev.d/default/10-hal.dev > etc/dev.d/net > etc/dev.d/net/hotplug.dev > > > hotplug call udev, udev call hal, then hotplug call hal also, udev use > hotplug which use udev, etc, etc... > > Can someone explain how this works. Please. Find a good picture of how hal/udev/hotplug interact : http://freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/hal/doc/spec/hal-linux26.png?rev=1.3&root=hal > > In /etc/udev/udev.conf, udev_remove_devicenodes is set to "no". Why ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From webmaster at hg-carstyling.de Mon Sep 20 08:09:53 2004 From: webmaster at hg-carstyling.de (M.Clasen) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:09:53 +0200 Subject: no default NTFS support in FC3 ? Message-ID: <1095667793.25653.15.camel@hg-operator> hello listers, what about ntfs-read-support in the new FC3 default kernel ? why does`nt the default kernel supports an NTFS module ? what is the way, to get this supportet in the FC3 final kernel ? short preamble: i got some trouble with my xp and have had to recompile the whole kernel from a fresh FC2 installation to get NTFS-support, to checkout my xp drives. i do not understand this, coz lotz of other distros have this already, so why not our loveley Fedora Core ? regards Michael Clasen -- Webmaster, Systemtechnik/Administration E-Mail: webmaster at hg-carstyling.de On Web: www.hg-carstyling.de Fackenburger Allee 55a 23554 L?beck / Germany Tel.: +49(0)451-4505952 Fax.: +49(0)451-4505954 From webmaster at hg-carstyling.de Mon Sep 20 08:42:04 2004 From: webmaster at hg-carstyling.de (M.Clasen) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:42:04 +0200 Subject: Scanner seems to have vanished In-Reply-To: <1095523451.4933.61.camel@T7.linux> References: <1095523451.4933.61.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1095669724.25653.30.camel@hg-operator> Hello Paul, > Hi, > > When I start my PC up, FC finds my SCSI scanner quite happily (I have an > Adaptec AHA7850 SCSI controller). When I run kooka, only my USB webcam > is found. The module loaded is the aic7xxx for the SCSI card. This has > never skipped a beat or failed. > i used an Mustek MFC-600S on aic7xxx and currently on ncr53c8xx and never had problems, but i never used kooka, i always used xsane on this scanner, dont ask, why, i donno. currently i tryed kooka, try to select the current scanner and i saw, i saw nothing :( nothing happens on kooka - unusable for me here. maybe tryout xsane. to get my scanner to work, i have to sudo xsane, otherwise no scanners were found - some permission discrepancies. regards Michael > The aic module is being used by scsi_mod, which looks about right. > > Any idea on getting the scanner working again or do I need to a kernel > recompile for support of my Mustek Paragon 600 II CD? > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Webmaster, Systemtechnik/Administration E-Mail: webmaster at hg-carstyling.de On Web: www.hg-carstyling.de Fackenburger Allee 55a 23554 L?beck / Germany Tel.: +49(0)451-4505952 Fax.: +49(0)451-4505954 From pnasrat at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 08:36:40 2004 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:36:40 +0100 Subject: FC3-re0908.0-i386-disc1-ftp.iso - USB keyboard In-Reply-To: <200409200509.05209.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200409200509.05209.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1095669400.25885.19.camel@anu.eridu> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 05:09 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > After Linux has booted my USB keyboard is not recognised. The keyboard itself > works fine (it worked on FC1 on the same machine). The BIOS recognises the > keyboard (I can use all BIOS options with it and it is recognised at the > boot: prompt). But when I get to the first stage of the install that > involves Linux receiving keyboard input (the "CD Found" screen) the USB > keyboard is not recognised and I have to install a PS/2 keyboard to get it to > work. Could you bugzilla these issues rather so they are trackable, etc. What BIOS options do you have set - legacy usb support?, etc. Paul From mike at ascendency.net Mon Sep 20 08:53:21 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 03:53:21 -0500 Subject: Apt and FC3T2 Message-ID: <200409200855.i8K8tCk06686@fat_man.ascendency.net> I'm plannig on installing FC3T2 when it's available later today. Will I still be able to use apt-get install, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade? If so, what changes, if any, will I have to make to my setup? I'll be upgrading from FC2-FINAL. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Sep 20 09:04:00 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:04:00 +0200 Subject: no default NTFS support in FC3 ? In-Reply-To: <1095667793.25653.15.camel@hg-operator> References: <1095667793.25653.15.camel@hg-operator> Message-ID: <414E9D00.8060703@gmx.de> M.Clasen wrote: >short preamble: >i got some trouble with my xp and have had to recompile the whole kernel >from a fresh FC2 installation to get NTFS-support, to checkout my xp >drives. > > http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html >i do not understand this, coz lotz of other distros have this already, >so why not our loveley Fedora Core ? > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/ search for "ntfs" eg. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-October/msg00424.html | I would like it very much if the standard kernel would include the read | driver for NTFS Won't happen due to potential patent problems. -- shrek-m From reader at newsguy.com Mon Sep 20 11:05:22 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:05:22 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 Message-ID: Group, Can I expect a D-Link cardbus adaptor (DWL-G650) in an older Toshiba 4005CDS labtop to be recognized and be configurable with the newest kernel and network drivers in FC3T2? From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Mon Sep 20 11:11:12 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:11:12 -0300 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Seg, 2004-09-20 ?s 08:05, Harry Putnam escreveu: > Can I expect a D-Link cardbus adaptor (DWL-G650) > in an older Toshiba 4005CDS labtop to be recognized and be > configurable with the newest kernel and network drivers in > FC3T2? Simple: - download FC3T1. If does not recognize, see if it's supported under linux and file a bugzilla. -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Sep 20 11:18:14 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:18:14 +0200 Subject: runas-patent vs sudo Message-ID: <414EBC76.4050101@gmx.de> hi, can we expect that sudo will not be included in fc3 ? "due to potential patent problems" (the default redhat/fedora sentence) http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&p=1&p=1&S1=6,775,781&OS=6,775,781&RS=6,775,781 paten-no: 6,775,781 august 10, 2004 assignee: microsoft corporation filed: july 20, 2000 --snip-- Administrative security systems and methods *Abstract* A computer such as a network appliance executes an administrative security process configured to run under an administrative privilege level. Having an administrative privilege level, the administrative security process can initiate administrative functions in an operating system function library. A user process executing under a non-administrative privilege level can initiate a particular administrative function that the process would not otherwise be able to initiate by requesting that the administrative security process initiate the function. In response to a request to initiate a particular function from a process with a non-administrative privilege level, the administrative security process determines whether the requesting process is authorized to initiate the particular administrative function based on information accessed in a data store. If the requesting process is authorized, the administrative security process initiates the particular administrative function. In this manner, the administrative security process facilitates access to specific administrative functions for a user process having a privilege level that does not permit the user process to access the administrative functions. --/snip-- vs. http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/history.html --snip-- Sudo was first conceived and implemented by Bob Coggeshall and Cliff Spencer around 1980 at the Department of Computer Science at SUNY/Buffalo. It ran on a VAX-11/750 running 4.1BSD. An updated version, credited to Phil Betchel, Cliff Spencer, Gretchen Phillips, John LoVerso and Don Gworek, was posted to the net.sources newsgroup in December of 1985. --/snip-- -- shrek-m From reader at newsguy.com Mon Sep 20 11:21:30 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:21:30 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> (Alexandre Strube's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:11:12 -0300") References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: Alexandre Strube writes: >> Can I expect a D-Link cardbus adaptor (DWL-G650) >> in an older Toshiba 4005CDS labtop to be recognized and be >> configurable with the newest kernel and network drivers in >> FC3T2? > > Simple: > > - download FC3T1. If does not recognize, see if it's supported under > linux and file a bugzilla. Excuse me but I'm asking for some advance knowledge here. If you don't have it please don't respond. Now again, anyone here have experience with the above cited card bus working or not on FC3T2?. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 20 11:26:27 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:26:27 -0400 Subject: Frustrating update problem In-Reply-To: <414E5C17.9090602@hotpop.com> References: <200409181912.25962.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> <414D1AF8.9050305@sbcglobal.net> <414E5C17.9090602@hotpop.com> Message-ID: <414EBE63.6000400@sbcglobal.net> Ryan James wrote: > >> I installed fonts-xorg-base-6.7.99.903-5 which seems to replace >> xorg-x11-base-fonts >> >> > that's what worked for me, up2date fonts-xorg*. > > I'm kind of puzzled with the mix of rpms and the version related information. 6.7.99.903-5 for some programs and 6.8.0-4 with other xorg related programs. This is from an upgraded to xorg-x11-6.8.99.903-5 and then using the FC3T2 RC2 install CDs to finish the kill. Should the 6.7.99.903-5 rpms even be installed? Jim rpm -qa |grep xorg xorg-x11-xdm-6.8.0-4 fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-75dpi-6.7.99.903-5 fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-100dpi-6.7.99.903-5 xorg-x11-doc-6.8.0-4 xorg-x11-xauth-6.8.0-4 xorg-x11-devel-6.8.0-4 fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-100dpi-6.7.99.903-5 fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-100dpi-6.7.99.903-5 xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.0-4 xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.0-4 fonts-xorg-base-6.7.99.903-5 fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-75dpi-6.7.99.903-5 xorg-x11-libs-6.8.0-4 xorg-x11-6.8.0-4 fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-100dpi-6.7.99.903-5 fonts-xorg-truetype-6.7.99.903-5 xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.0-4 xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.0-4 xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.0-4 fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-75dpi-6.7.99.903-5 fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-75dpi-6.7.99.903-5 -- QOTD: Talk about willing people... over half of them are willing to work and the others are more than willing to watch them. From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Mon Sep 20 11:35:04 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:35:04 -0300 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Seg, 2004-09-20 ?s 08:21, Harry Putnam escreveu: > Excuse me but I'm asking for some advance knowledge here. If you > don't have it please don't respond. I'm sorry, but silly questions deserve silly answers. -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From reader at newsguy.com Mon Sep 20 11:58:58 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:58:58 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> (Alexandre Strube's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:35:04 -0300") References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: Alexandre Strube writes: > Em Seg, 2004-09-20 ?s 08:21, Harry Putnam escreveu: >> Excuse me but I'm asking for some advance knowledge here. If you >> don't have it please don't respond. > > I'm sorry, but silly questions deserve silly answers. Alexander, when did trying to find out in advance if a piece of hardware is likely to work become silly? If you again feel a need to insert non-topical replies, please do so privately. My message had a clear subject... if you don't want to respond to that subject please do not post here. If you feel a need to insult or other wise make a fool of yourself please do so privately. My address is not munged. Feel free to send me any amount of non-topical data, including any `sage' advice you feel qualified to give. From alan at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 12:18:08 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:18:08 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: reduce ioremap memory size for Adaptec I2O controllers] In-Reply-To: <414E68CE.4070808@redhat.com> References: <41484DF1.1000309@redhat.com> <20040915141641.GA15660@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <41498F5D.5020105@alfar.co.uk> <20040916145118.GA25530@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <414CEA6B.5020308@redhat.com> <414E68CE.4070808@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040920121808.GC2059@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:21:18PM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3848 > "Linux: Understanding The Stricter Type Checks for PCI memory mapping" > "The solution provided involves a new interface called 'iomap', > extending the earlier 'ioremap' function to properly work for both PIO > (programmed input/output) and MMIO"... > > What are the possible implications of this for usage of ioremap in i2o? None unless Markus chooses to use it. The iomap stuff is a new way of doing I/O stuff (and some of it like pci_iomap is a much nicer API). Its big win is it allows sparse to do type checking for things like PCI accesses From dcbw at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 12:22:37 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Harry, What _version_ is the card? Most vendors have the same model # for a while but switch chipsets in the card while not updating anything but a version #. For example, Belkin F5D6020 v1 was a different chipset than F5D6020 v2. Is there a version # on your card? Dan On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Group, > Can I expect a D-Link cardbus adaptor (DWL-G650) > in an older Toshiba 4005CDS labtop to be recognized and be > configurable with the newest kernel and network drivers in > FC3T2? > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From lnxxprt at arcor.de Mon Sep 20 12:21:50 2004 From: lnxxprt at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:21:50 +0200 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> your DWL-650 is most probably based on a atheros chip which is not supported by the stock fedora kernel (AFAIR there are different revision of this card with different chips, not 100% sure though). if it is atheros based then you will need the madwifi driver from CVS because it is still in development. some yum repositories already offer the madwifi package so it should be a no brainer to get this card working. you will not get any redhat support though. hope it helps /ds Harry Putnam schrieb: > Alexandre Strube writes: > > >>Em Seg, 2004-09-20 ?s 08:21, Harry Putnam escreveu: >> >>>Excuse me but I'm asking for some advance knowledge here. If you >>>don't have it please don't respond. >> >>I'm sorry, but silly questions deserve silly answers. > > > Alexander, when did trying to find out in advance if a piece of > hardware is likely to work become silly? If you again feel a need to > insert non-topical replies, please do so privately. > > My message had a clear subject... if you don't want to respond to that > subject please do not post here. If you feel a need to insult or > other wise make a fool of yourself please do so privately. My address > is not munged. Feel free to send me any amount of non-topical data, > including any `sage' advice you feel qualified to give. > > From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Mon Sep 20 12:58:55 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:58:55 +0200 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 20.09.2004 schrieb D. Stolte um 14:21: > if it is > atheros based then you will need the madwifi driver from CVS because it > is still in development. some yum repositories already offer the madwifi > package so it should be a no brainer to get this card working. you will > not get any redhat support though. and expect it to be broken sometimes. I had a lot of difficulties with some kernel releases/kernel updates and some cvs state of madwifi, ACPI, Interrupt sharing, etc. If you have a choice you should avoid atheros for now until the driver is in a better shape. Peter From Alex.V at comcast.net Mon Sep 20 14:04:08 2004 From: Alex.V at comcast.net (Alex Vancina) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:04:08 -0500 Subject: FC3-t1 USB Problems Message-ID: <414EE358.9070900@comcast.net> Hi All, I just joined the list last night, so feel free to flame me if this has already been disscused... :) I tried to install FC3-t1 on my computer a couple of nights ago, but when I tried to begin the installation it kept getting stuck on 'running /sbin/loader'. After searching around online for a few minutes I discovered that my USB mouse might be the cause of the problem. Sure enough, when I swapped it for one of my PS/2 mice the installation when perfectly. I rebooted and everything seemed to be going smoothly. However, as soon as I plug in any USB device the system imediatly hangs. Is this a known problem with FC3-t1? Thanks, Alex Vancina From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Sep 20 14:10:30 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:10:30 -0400 Subject: Apt and FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <200409200855.i8K8tCk06686@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409200855.i8K8tCk06686@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <604aa79104092007104ca1d703@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 03:53:21 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > I'm plannig on installing FC3T2 when it's available later today. Will I > still be able to use apt-get install, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade? > If so, what changes, if any, will I have to make to my setup? I'll be > upgrading from FC2-FINAL. Will you be able to use apt? Only one way to find out... by testing it. The master fedora mirror does not provide apt specific metadata nor has it ever, so if you are using apt right now, you are using a mirror where the admin has created the apt metadata above and beyond what the master fedora download server provides. So the very first thing you need to figure out is, which mirrors are going to go through the trouble of generating the apt metadata for the test release AND on what time scale you should expect the apt metadata to be available. But this isn't news.... the master mirror has never supported apt directly... and i highly doubt anything has happened delibrately to break apt working for those people who want to generate apt metadata and provide an apt compatible repository. What is news is the master mirror should be providing new "common" metadata. There might be a version of apt in development right now that can use the "common" metadata, but I have no idea since i dont use apt. You'll have to ask around in something a little more apt specific as a forum. -jef From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Sep 20 14:20:46 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:20:46 +0200 Subject: runas-patent vs sudo In-Reply-To: <414EBC76.4050101@gmx.de> References: <414EBC76.4050101@gmx.de> Message-ID: <414EE73E.4070405@gmx.de> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > can we expect that sudo will not be included in fc3 ? > > "due to potential patent problems" (the default redhat/fedora sentence) > > > http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&p=1&p=1&S1=6,775,781&OS=6,775,781&RS=6,775,781 > > > paten-no: 6,775,781 august 10, 2004 > assignee: microsoft corporation > filed: july 20, 2000 http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/search-adv.htm nice to see the amount of microsoft patents, i expect that we will see in the near future for what it is worth to claim these patents. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&f=S&l=50&d=ptxt&Query=an%2Fmicrosoft ---- /Searching 1976 to present.../ *Results of Search in 1976 to present db for: AN/microsoft*: 3431 patents. /Hits *1* through *50 * out of *3431 ---- ---- */ /Searching 1976 to present.../ *Results of Search in 1976 to present db for: AN/novell*: 242 patents. /Hits *1* through *50 * out of *242* ---- ---- / /Searching 1976 to present.../ *Results of Search in 1976 to present db for: AN/cisco*: 1345 patents. /Hits *1* through *50 * out of *1345* ---- ---- /*Results of Search in db for: AN/redhat*: 0 patents. ---- ---- *Results of Search in db for: AN/suse*: 0 patents. ---- -- shrek-m From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Sep 20 14:07:14 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:07:14 +0100 Subject: Bit torrent Message-ID: <1095689234.17858.32.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, I'm trying to get FC3t2 down via bittorrent. All I'm getting is the connecting to peers. Are the iso's there and if they are, any ideas on why it's taking so long to connect? One thought is that the ports are blocked. If that is the case, can the isos be downloaded via ftp? TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Sep 20 14:34:00 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:34:00 +0200 Subject: FC3-t1 USB Problems In-Reply-To: <414EE358.9070900@comcast.net> References: <414EE358.9070900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <414EEA58.8090308@gmx.de> Alex Vancina wrote: > I rebooted and everything seemed to be going smoothly. However, as > soon as I plug in any USB device the system imediatly hangs. Is this a > known problem with FC3-t1? i do not know, you can search the list-archives and bugzilla http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ fc3t2 is available http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ -- shrek-m From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Mon Sep 20 14:31:54 2004 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:31:54 -0600 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:50:34 +0200." <1095616234.4609.78.camel@agnes> Message-ID: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > First of all it looks like the guy divided his 4GB disk in two 2G > partitions and installed Reiser on one partition and EXT3 in the > other. WRONG! Modern disks have more sectors in the outer, > lower numbered tracks. Meaning that you will get higher throughput > from hda1 than from hda2. Wrong indeed. The same partition was used for all tests. One can give me a little credit, even if it hurts. > He also compiled the kernel as a benchmark. 99% of times this is the > touchstone for lack of proper thinking in benchmarking. Because I benchmarked an actual task that my readers are likely to perform? Look, the benchmarks in the LWN articles were a low-value exercise, just to get a rough feel for the performance benefits claimed by reiser4. I believe I succeeded in that goal. Among other things, I turned up the fact that, if you fail to create your files in the right order, performance suffers significantly - something which the Namesys marketing literature somehow failed to mention. jon Jonathan Corbet Executive editor, LWN.net corbet at lwn.net From balay at fastmail.fm Mon Sep 20 14:47:18 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:47:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Bit torrent In-Reply-To: <1095689234.17858.32.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1095689234.17858.32.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, PFJ wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get FC3t2 down via bittorrent. All I'm getting is the > connecting to peers. Are the iso's there and if they are, any ideas on > why it's taking so long to connect? Might want to try again - I've just connected to the torrent > One thought is that the ports are blocked. Your outgoing connection (to the torrent tracker) is blocked? nmap -p 6969 torrent.linux.duke.edu > If that is the case, can the isos be downloaded via ftp? Check the announcement: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-September/msg00024.html Satish From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Mon Sep 20 14:54:02 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:54:02 -0300 Subject: Bit torrent In-Reply-To: <1095689234.17858.32.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1095689234.17858.32.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1095692041.5002.8.camel@preview> Em Seg, 2004-09-20 ?s 11:07, PFJ escreveu: > I'm trying to get FC3t2 down via bittorrent. All I'm getting is the > connecting to peers. Are the iso's there and if they are, any ideas on > why it's taking so long to connect? > One thought is that the ports are blocked. If that is the case, can the > isos be downloaded via ftp? It seems quite ok to me. FTP will take longer to be there. saving: FC3-test2-binary-i386 (2265.8 MB) percent done: 9.8 time left: 2 hour 26 min 47 sec download to: FC3-test2-binary-i386 download rate: 258.19 kB/s upload rate: 371.18 kB/s download total: 222.8 MiB upload total: 348.8 MiB From balay at fastmail.fm Mon Sep 20 15:00:13 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Bit torrent In-Reply-To: <1095692041.5002.8.camel@preview> References: <1095689234.17858.32.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095692041.5002.8.camel@preview> Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Seg, 2004-09-20 ?s 11:07, PFJ escreveu: > > > I'm trying to get FC3t2 down via bittorrent. All I'm getting is the > > connecting to peers. Are the iso's there and if they are, any ideas on > > why it's taking so long to connect? > > One thought is that the ports are blocked. If that is the case, can the > > isos be downloaded via ftp? > > It seems quite ok to me. FTP will take longer to be there. > > saving: FC3-test2-binary-i386 (2265.8 MB) > percent done: 9.8 > time left: 2 hour 26 min 47 sec > download to: FC3-test2-binary-i386 > download rate: 258.19 kB/s > upload rate: 371.18 kB/s > download total: 222.8 MiB > upload total: 348.8 MiB Torrent is behaving slightly better for me :) [and I'm behind a firewall - without the extra torrent ports opened] -- | status: finishing in 0:05:21 (81.1%) | | speed: 1.5 MB/s down - 314.6 KB/s up | | totals: 1.8 GB down - 1.1 GB up | | error(s): | -- Satish From mhaney at interactsys.com Mon Sep 20 15:01:24 2004 From: mhaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:01:24 -0400 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 Message-ID: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> What's the best way to upgrade to Test 2 without wasting CD's? I want to do an FTP install, but don't really want to waste a CD for the boot.iso file. IS there a way around that? -------------------------------------- Mark Haney Network Administrator InterAct Public Safety Systems mhaney at interactsys.com Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 11:00:31 up 3:22, 2 users, load average: 3.97, 2.41, 1.95 From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Sep 20 15:05:13 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:05:13 -0400 Subject: Bit torrent References: <1095689234.17858.32.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095692041.5002.8.camel@preview> Message-ID: Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Seg, 2004-09-20 ?s 11:07, PFJ escreveu: > >> I'm trying to get FC3t2 down via bittorrent. All I'm getting is the >> connecting to peers. Are the iso's there and if they are, any ideas on >> why it's taking so long to connect? >> One thought is that the ports are blocked. If that is the case, can the >> isos be downloaded via ftp? > > It seems quite ok to me. FTP will take longer to be there. > > saving: FC3-test2-binary-i386 (2265.8 MB) > percent done: 9.8 > time left: 2 hour 26 min 47 sec > download to: FC3-test2-binary-i386 > download rate: 258.19 kB/s > upload rate: 371.18 kB/s > download total: 222.8 MiB > upload total: 348.8 MiB > > > > > > > Not working here for FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD . Port is not blocked. From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Mon Sep 20 15:24:06 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:24:06 +0300 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <1095693846.4485.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:01 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > What's the best way to upgrade to Test 2 without wasting CD's? I want > to do an FTP install, but don't really want to waste a CD for the > boot.iso file. IS there a way around that? use a rewritable cd -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From alan at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 15:17:48 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:17:48 -0400 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <20040920151748.GB15738@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 11:01:24AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > What's the best way to upgrade to Test 2 without wasting CD's? I want > to do an FTP install, but don't really want to waste a CD for the > boot.iso file. IS there a way around that? If you've got a local network and DHCP server, and the test box does PXE boot you can use PXE. If it already has Linux on it you can put the boot kernel and boot initrd onto the existing Linux hard disk and add it to /etc/grub.conf then boot it From arjanv at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 15:20:03 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:20:03 +0200 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <1095693603.2800.12.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 17:01, Mark Haney wrote: > What's the best way to upgrade to Test 2 without wasting CD's? I want > to do an FTP install, but don't really want to waste a CD for the > boot.iso file. IS there a way around that? if you already have a working linux installation with grub you can get the pxe install image from the cd (the vmlinuz and initrd) and just add them manually to the grub.conf, just follow the example of the rest. 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I want to know what is inside FC3T2 before installing it blindly. Where can i find some sort of feature list for Test2? On http://fedora.redhat.com i get stuck. ciao, nico. -- +++ GMX DSL Premiumtarife 3 Monate gratis* + WLAN-Router 0,- EUR* +++ Clevere DSL-Nutzer wechseln jetzt zu GMX: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From cmadams at hiwaay.net Mon Sep 20 15:30:38 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:30:38 -0500 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <20040920153038.GC638200@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Mark Haney said: > What's the best way to upgrade to Test 2 without wasting CD's? I want > to do an FTP install, but don't really want to waste a CD for the > boot.iso file. IS there a way around that? If you already have a running system, do (of course you should change the wget lines to your favorite mirror): su - cd /boot mkdir fc3t2 cd fc3t2 wget http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/i386/os/images/pxeboot/vmlinuz wget http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/i386/os/images/pxeboot/initrd.img grubby --title "FC3t2 installer" --add-kernel=/boot/fc3t2/vmlinuz --initrd=/boot/fc3t2/initrd.img --args='ramdisk_size=8192' Reboot and select it off the boot menu. If you do an update (vs. a fresh install), you can remove this with: su - grubby --remove-kernel=/boot/fc3t2/vmlinuz rm /boot/fc3t2/* rmdir /boot/fc3t2 -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Sep 20 15:34:34 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:34:34 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 -feature list In-Reply-To: <740.1095694173@www51.gmx.net> References: <740.1095694173@www51.gmx.net> Message-ID: <604aa79104092008343f060e26@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:29:33 +0200 (MEST), Markus Nicolussi wrote: > Hello! > > I want to know what is inside FC3T2 before installing it blindly. Where can > i find some sort of feature list for Test2? On http://fedora.redhat.com i > get stuck. Release Notes exist. I'm not sure how detailed you expect a feature list to be. Hell, a 'feature list' of xorg packages alone would take a whole book. -jef From gcarter at aesgi.com Mon Sep 20 15:43:46 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:43:46 -0500 Subject: runas-patent vs sudo In-Reply-To: <414EE73E.4070405@gmx.de> References: <414EBC76.4050101@gmx.de> <414EE73E.4070405@gmx.de> Message-ID: <414EFAB2.4060507@aesgi.com> A general question would have to be then, is the American idiocy around writing "Patent products" vs real software going to impact our choice of distribution in other countries? If that is the case, it would be entirely legal for example, to block whole IP address spaces if packages that do not pay royalties are found on the public internet spaces. If you will remember, one of the reasons Ecommerce failed so miserably in the U.S. is because of the RSA patent issues, pretty much leaving the industry in a complete shambles. American companies have to go to enourmous lengths and risks to offer downloads of secure software of any kind because of more American idiocy. This is one of the reasons you can crack most American corporate sites so easily, security products are restricted and not easily accesible. Any attempt in securing corporate sites without massive royalties, could land you in jail. I don't just mean via software patents/rsa mechnisms. I mean, ANY idea you use to secure your IT systems could be already patented. What would be nice is a way to circumnavigate the American patent laws in general. However, may I suggest to the package maintainers: Perhaps American patents are actually helping you in your own country. As long as you do not submit to American patent laws, (and we don't park an air craft carrier out side your country to convince you otherwise...) you should not have any problem of undermining American business interests world wide. Perhaps after the economy is more of a wreck than it already is, there won't be any more money left for companies like Microsoft to buy congress members, judical judge seats and law enforcement. Then we can get back to writing software again, doing mathematics and in general advancing science for anyone, instead of only those who can pay to play as it is currently. If some of you are in Europe reading this, you still have a chance to avoid the wreck of your own countries IT industry with millions of unemployed by going here: http://swpat.ffii.org/pikta/index.en.html Please read, understand and do something about this american idiocy. This must not be permitted to spread otherwise your technology economies will be destroyed, and jobs will be heavily exported out of your countries to avoid paying the patents...(ala USA). -gc shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > >> can we expect that sudo will not be included in fc3 ? >> >> "due to potential patent problems" (the default redhat/fedora sentence) >> >> >> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&p=1&p=1&S1=6,775,781&OS=6,775,781&RS=6,775,781 >> >> >> paten-no: 6,775,781 august 10, 2004 >> assignee: microsoft corporation >> filed: july 20, 2000 > > > > http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/search-adv.htm > > > nice to see the amount of microsoft patents, > i expect that we will see in the near future for what it is worth to > claim these patents. > > http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&f=S&l=50&d=ptxt&Query=an%2Fmicrosoft > > > > ---- > > /Searching 1976 to present.../ > > *Results of Search in 1976 to present db for: > AN/microsoft*: 3431 patents. > /Hits *1* through *50 * out of *3431 > ---- > ---- > */ > > /Searching 1976 to present.../ > > *Results of Search in 1976 to present db for: > AN/novell*: 242 patents. > /Hits *1* through *50 * out of *242* > ---- > ---- > / > > /Searching 1976 to present.../ > > *Results of Search in 1976 to present db for: > AN/cisco*: 1345 patents. > /Hits *1* through *50 * out of *1345* > ---- > ---- > /*Results of Search in db for: > AN/redhat*: 0 patents. > ---- > ---- > *Results of Search in db for: > AN/suse*: 0 patents. > ---- > > From pri.rhl3 at iadonisi.to Mon Sep 20 15:44:51 2004 From: pri.rhl3 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:44:51 -0400 Subject: test -- please ignore Message-ID: <1095695091.3389.1.camel@tuxtop> sorry for the noise b0rked sendmail settings wouldn't allow me to receive my own posts hopefully fixed. From mhaney at interactsys.com Mon Sep 20 15:47:01 2004 From: mhaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:47:01 -0400 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <20040920153038.GC638200@hiwaay.net> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <20040920153038.GC638200@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1095695221.3181.76.camel@marius.asheville.interact> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:30, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Mark Haney said: > > What's the best way to upgrade to Test 2 without wasting CD's? I want > > to do an FTP install, but don't really want to waste a CD for the > > boot.iso file. IS there a way around that? > > If you already have a running system, do (of course you should change > the wget lines to your favorite mirror): > > su - > cd /boot > mkdir fc3t2 > cd fc3t2 > wget http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/i386/os/images/pxeboot/vmlinuz > wget http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/i386/os/images/pxeboot/initrd.img > grubby --title "FC3t2 installer" --add-kernel=/boot/fc3t2/vmlinuz --initrd=/boot/fc3t2/initrd.img --args='ramdisk_size=8192' Chris, this was perfect. It works well with VMware (which is where I have T1 installed). This is the best thing since sliced bread (okay maybe not, but I learned something!) > > -- > Chris Adams > Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services > I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -------------------------------------- Mark Haney Network Administrator InterAct Public Safety Systems mhaney at interactsys.com Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 11:45:54 up 4:07, 2 users, load average: 2.20, 1.72, 1.60 From reader at newsguy.com Mon Sep 20 15:51:35 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:51:35 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> Message-ID: D. Stolte wrote: > your DWL-650 is most probably based on a atheros chip which is not > supported by the stock fedora kernel (AFAIR there are different revision > of this card with different chips, not 100% sure though). if it is > atheros based then you will need the madwifi driver from CVS because it > is still in development. some yum repositories already offer the madwifi > package so it should be a no brainer to get this card working. you will > not get any redhat support though. > > hope it helps Yeah, it does. Beats the heck out of just having no idea about it at all. I read up on that madwifi a bit and I think there were troubles with earlier models.... I see b1 adn b2 mentioned... mine is Hardware=b4 and Firmware=2.42 From reader at newsguy.com Mon Sep 20 15:56:20 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:56:20 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dan Williams wrote: > Harry, > > What _version_ is the card? Most vendors have the same model # for a > while but switch chipsets in the card while not updating anything but a > version #. For example, Belkin F5D6020 v1 was a different chipset than > F5D6020 v2. Is there a version # on your card? Dlink DWL-G650 Hardware version=B4 Firmware verson=2.42 From reader at newsguy.com Mon Sep 20 16:01:05 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:01:05 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: Peter wrote: > Am Mo, den 20.09.2004 schrieb D. Stolte um 14:21: > >>if it is >>atheros based then you will need the madwifi driver from CVS because it >>is still in development. some yum repositories already offer the madwifi >>package so it should be a no brainer to get this card working. you will >>not get any redhat support though. > > > and expect it to be broken sometimes. I had a lot of difficulties with > some kernel releases/kernel updates and some cvs state of madwifi, ACPI, > Interrupt sharing, etc. > > If you have a choice you should avoid atheros for now until the driver > is in a better shape. I guess there is always a choice.. if I want to eat the cost. What card[s] have the best support? Where I could just expect it to work like my older pcmcia (non-wireless netgear) cards do? From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Sep 20 16:16:35 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:16:35 +0200 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <1095696995.4754.72.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Jonathan, On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 16:31, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > > He also compiled the kernel as a benchmark. 99% of times this is the > > touchstone for lack of proper thinking in benchmarking. > > Because I benchmarked an actual task that my readers are likely to > perform? No, because if you benchmark a file system you shouldn't benchmark a CPU intensive task like compiling a kernel as file system performance will only have a relatively small impact on the compilation time (signal/noise). That sounds like valid criticism to me. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From balay at fastmail.fm Mon Sep 20 16:20:52 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:20:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > I guess there is always a choice.. if I want to eat the cost. What card[s] > have the best support? Where I could just expect it to work like my older > pcmcia (non-wireless netgear) cards do? Lets look at it the other way. The current rawhide kernel has the following kernel moules: (If you can find the matching cards for any of these drivers. ) [balay at localhost ~]$ ls /lib/modules/2.6.8-1.541/kernel/drivers/net/wireless airo_cs.ko atmel.ko netwave_cs.ko orinoco_pci.ko prism54 wl3501_cs.ko airo.ko atmel_pci.ko orinoco_cs.ko orinoco_plx.ko wavelan_cs.ko atmel_cs.ko hermes.ko orinoco.ko orinoco_tmd.ko wavelan.ko The easy ones would be prism54 (and the good old orinoco ones which aren't for sale anymore) Satish From dcbw at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 16:52:11 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: Cards I've personally tested: Lucent WaveLan Gold Cisco Aironet 340/350 NetGear WG511 (_NOT_ WG511T) Belkin F5D6020 v1, v2 Intel ProWireless 2100/2200 Dan On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > I guess there is always a choice.. if I want to eat the cost. What card[s] > > have the best support? Where I could just expect it to work like my older > > pcmcia (non-wireless netgear) cards do? > > Lets look at it the other way. The current rawhide kernel has the > following kernel moules: (If you can find the matching cards for any > of these drivers. ) > > [balay at localhost ~]$ ls /lib/modules/2.6.8-1.541/kernel/drivers/net/wireless > airo_cs.ko atmel.ko netwave_cs.ko orinoco_pci.ko prism54 wl3501_cs.ko > airo.ko atmel_pci.ko orinoco_cs.ko orinoco_plx.ko wavelan_cs.ko > atmel_cs.ko hermes.ko orinoco.ko orinoco_tmd.ko wavelan.ko > > The easy ones would be prism54 (and the good old orinoco ones which > aren't for sale anymore) > > Satish > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Mon Sep 20 17:06:56 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:06:56 +0100 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <1095696995.4754.72.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> <1095696995.4754.72.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040920170656.GA10953@nsk.no-ip.org> On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 06:16:35PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hello Jonathan, > > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 16:31, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > > > He also compiled the kernel as a benchmark. 99% of times this is the > > > touchstone for lack of proper thinking in benchmarking. > > > > Because I benchmarked an actual task that my readers are likely to > > perform? > > No, because if you benchmark a file system you shouldn't benchmark a CPU > intensive task like compiling a kernel as file system performance will > only have a relatively small impact on the compilation time > (signal/noise). That sounds like valid criticism to me. He wasn't benchmarking the machines, he was benchmarking the file systems. All else being equal, a usual operation as a fs benchmark is a valid one. A simple, idiotic test like flipping 0s and 1s in ram would still be a valid test, though with much less significance. If a simple memtest resulted if so very different results if under different filesystems, then something would be very wrong with one of them. Regards, Luciano Rocha PS: A compilation can be very dependent on file system performance. Not usually as much as the processor, of course, but stil... -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon Sep 20 17:10:50 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:10:50 -0400 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <1095693721.3181.63.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <1095693846.4485.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1095693721.3181.63.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <1095700250.12065.97.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:22 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:24, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:01 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > > > > > use a rewritable cd > > > Okay here's the $20 question how do I write an ISO to a CD-RW without > destroying the CD? Not sure I understand the question. Writing to a CD-RW should never destroy it. Are you having problems erasing the CD-RWs before reuse? cdrecord -v blank=all -eject dev=0,1,0 Works-for-me. Your dev may (will) vary, may be able to get away with "fast" rather than "all". GUI approach works also. Phil From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon Sep 20 17:22:20 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:22:20 -0400 Subject: Bit torrent In-Reply-To: References: <1095689234.17858.32.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095692041.5002.8.camel@preview> Message-ID: <1095700940.12065.104.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:05 -0400, Neal D. Becker wrote: > Alexandre Strube wrote: > > > Em Seg, 2004-09-20 ?s 11:07, PFJ escreveu: > > > >> I'm trying to get FC3t2 down via bittorrent. All I'm getting is the > >> connecting to peers. Are the iso's there and if they are, any ideas on > >> why it's taking so long to connect? > >> One thought is that the ports are blocked. If that is the case, can the > >> isos be downloaded via ftp? > > > > It seems quite ok to me. FTP will take longer to be there. > > > > saving: FC3-test2-binary-i386 (2265.8 MB) > > percent done: 9.8 > > time left: 2 hour 26 min 47 sec > > download to: FC3-test2-binary-i386 > > download rate: 258.19 kB/s > > upload rate: 371.18 kB/s > > download total: 222.8 MiB > > upload total: 348.8 MiB > > > > Not working here for FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD . Port is not blocked. > | file: FC3-test2-binary-i386 | size: 2,375,867,219 (2.2 GB) | dest: /raid/RH/Fedora/2.91/iso/i386/FC3-test2-binary-i386 | progress: ###################################################... | status: download succeeded! | speed: 0 B/s down - 408.5 KB/s up | totals: 2.2 GB down - 1.8 GB up | error(s): Started download before lunch - was done after. Still running to be a good bittorrent citizen. Burning CD-RWs now. Phil From mhaney at interactsys.com Mon Sep 20 17:23:49 2004 From: mhaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:23:49 -0400 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <1095700250.12065.97.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <1095693846.4485.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1095693721.3181.63.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <1095700250.12065.97.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1095701029.3181.98.camel@marius.asheville.interact> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 13:10, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > > > > Okay here's the $20 question how do I write an ISO to a CD-RW without > > destroying the CD? > > Not sure I understand the question. Writing to a CD-RW should never > destroy it. Are you having problems erasing the CD-RWs before reuse? > > cdrecord -v blank=all -eject dev=0,1,0 > > Works-for-me. Your dev may (will) vary, may be able to get away with > "fast" rather than "all". GUI approach works also. > > Phil Actually, and I'm embarrassed to say this, but I've never used CD-RW's with linux. Not that I never wanted to, but always had another way of getting data from one location to another, scp, ftp, etc. Any thing I needed to burn was usually permanent data, so I always used CD-R's for it. -------------------------------------- Mark Haney Network Administrator InterAct Public Safety Systems mhaney at interactsys.com Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 13:22:00 up 5:43, 2 users, load average: 0.91, 1.11, 1.14 From bgerst at didntduck.org Mon Sep 20 17:28:40 2004 From: bgerst at didntduck.org (Brian Gerst) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:28:40 -0400 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <1095693721.3181.63.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <1095693846.4485.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1095693721.3181.63.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <414F1348.8000104@didntduck.org> Mark Haney wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:24, Marius Andreiana wrote: > >>On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:01 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: >> >>use a rewritable cd >> > > Okay here's the $20 question how do I write an ISO to a CD-RW without > destroying the CD? Erase the disc first, then burn it just like a CD-R. -- Brian Gerst From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Mon Sep 20 17:28:57 2004 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:28:57 -0600 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:16:35 +0200." <1095696995.4754.72.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040920172858.21957.qmail@lwn.net> Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > > Because I benchmarked an actual task that my readers are likely to > > perform? > > No, because if you benchmark a file system you shouldn't benchmark a CPU > intensive task like compiling a kernel as file system performance will > only have a relatively small impact on the compilation time > (signal/noise). A change from 1400 seconds (ext3) to 1583 (reiser4) strikes me as more than noise. If I run reiser4 on that particular system, I have to wait three more minutes to get my kernel built. (Yes, it drops to 1445 seconds if you happen to have a kernel tarball built in the reiser4-optimum order, but that is worth noting too). Reiser4 is a CPU-heavy filesystem - by admission of its own developers. So its performance will certainly suffer, relative to lighter filesystems, when executing a CPU-intensive, filesystem-intensive task. Running benchmarks which do not load the processor can be useful for generating those "guaranteed not to exceed" numbers, but they mask the extra cost involved in using a filesystem which requires a lot of processor time to operate. If I wanted to print best-case-scenario benchmarks, I could have simply copied them from Namesys.com. I think there is also a place for "real world" tests. jon From bwheadley at earthlink.net Mon Sep 20 17:30:12 2004 From: bwheadley at earthlink.net (Bryan W. Headley) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:30:12 -0500 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <1095701029.3181.98.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <1095693846.4485.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1095693721.3181.63.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <1095700250.12065.97.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1095701029.3181.98.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <414F13A4.70601@earthlink.net> Mark Haney wrote: >On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 13:10, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > > >>>Okay here's the $20 question how do I write an ISO to a CD-RW without >>>destroying the CD? >>> >>> >>Not sure I understand the question. Writing to a CD-RW should never >>destroy it. Are you having problems erasing the CD-RWs before reuse? >> >> cdrecord -v blank=all -eject dev=0,1,0 >> >>Works-for-me. Your dev may (will) vary, may be able to get away with >>"fast" rather than "all". GUI approach works also. >> >>Phil >> >> >Actually, and I'm embarrassed to say this, but I've never used CD-RW's >with linux. Not that I never wanted to, but always had another way of >getting data from one location to another, scp, ftp, etc. Any thing I >needed to burn was usually permanent data, so I always used CD-R's for >it. > > > Ah, well, first erase the CD (assuming you've gathered a supply of RWs somewhere), Then record new iso image.. cdrecord dev=whomever blank=all From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Sep 20 17:30:19 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:30:19 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 -feature list In-Reply-To: <740.1095694173@www51.gmx.net> References: <740.1095694173@www51.gmx.net> Message-ID: <1095701418.1358.4.camel@one.myworld> http://www.bytebot.net/talks/FC3-t2rawhide-whatsnew.pdf Le lun 20/09/2004 ? 17:29, Markus Nicolussi a ?crit : > Hello! > > I want to know what is inside FC3T2 before installing it blindly. Where can > i find some sort of feature list for Test2? On http://fedora.redhat.com i > get stuck. > > ciao, nico. > > -- > +++ GMX DSL Premiumtarife 3 Monate gratis* + WLAN-Router 0,- EUR* +++ > Clevere DSL-Nutzer wechseln jetzt zu GMX: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From lnxxprt at arcor.de Mon Sep 20 17:33:24 2004 From: lnxxprt at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:33:24 +0200 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <414F1464.7090704@arcor.de> Harry Putnam schrieb: > Peter wrote: > >> Am Mo, den 20.09.2004 schrieb D. Stolte um 14:21: >> >>> if it is >>> atheros based then you will need the madwifi driver from CVS because it >>> is still in development. some yum repositories already offer the madwifi >>> package so it should be a no brainer to get this card working. you will >>> not get any redhat support though. >> >> >> >> and expect it to be broken sometimes. I had a lot of difficulties with >> some kernel releases/kernel updates and some cvs state of madwifi, ACPI, >> Interrupt sharing, etc. >> >> If you have a choice you should avoid atheros for now until the driver >> is in a better shape. > > > I guess there is always a choice.. if I want to eat the cost. What > card[s] have the best support? Where I could just expect it to work > like my older pcmcia (non-wireless netgear) cards do? > > the acpi and interrupt problems of madwifi are history. to be fair these were problems of the early 2.6 kernels and not madwifis. i also tested some cards (prism2 and prism54) and i have the best experience with the netgear 511t and the madwifi driver. /ds From alan at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 17:45:25 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:45:25 -0400 Subject: runas-patent vs sudo In-Reply-To: <414EFAB2.4060507@aesgi.com> References: <414EBC76.4050101@gmx.de> <414EE73E.4070405@gmx.de> <414EFAB2.4060507@aesgi.com> Message-ID: <20040920174525.GB23648@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:43:46AM -0500, Gregory G Carter wrote: > As long as you do not submit to American patent laws, (and we don't park > an air craft carrier out side your country to convince you otherwise...) > you should not have any problem of undermining American business > interests world wide. Its already standard procedure Patent in US owend by British Virgin Islands company License for design and build in suitable country (eg China) They ship to the USA through front men who have and make no assets Any lawsuit (even health & safety) they fold All the money and a credible distance exists betwen the money and the US law. Its one reason all the sofware jobs are going - US programmers are not just expensive they are a risk. From florin at andrei.myip.org Mon Sep 20 18:35:15 2004 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:35:15 -0700 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2 In-Reply-To: <20040920141606.GA30766@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040920141606.GA30766@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095705315.16357.3.camel@stantz.corp.sgi.com> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 07:16, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Coming soon to a site near you... for the first time, it's the new, > digitally remastered, Fedora Core 3 Test 2! > - a minor change to the device model, switching from a static /dev > to a dynamic /dev provided by udev That's what you guys call a "minor" change? :-) Anyway, i think it's welcome. It was time for the static /dev to retire. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Sep 20 19:06:27 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:06:27 -0400 Subject: Install FC3 into lvm w/striping Message-ID: I am about to try update from FC2 -> FC3T2. I have 2 FC2 systems, both are installed into LVM2 root. The LVM2 were created by install of FC1 or FC2 (I forget which). Turns out, I just notice, that I although the installer told me the disks were stripped, apparantly they are not! Note: the first logical volume I just created, and it IS stripped, but the second was created by anaconda - and is NOT stripped: sbin/lvm lvdisplay -m --- Logical volume --- LV Name /dev/spare_vg/lvol0 VG Name spare_vg LV UUID YMgcCV-m6hO-uzSf-kuPE-EPsY-9AS9-yfRHzh LV Write Access read/write LV Status available # open 0 LV Size 140.00 GB Current LE 35840 Segments 1 Allocation next free (default) Read ahead sectors 0 Block device 253:1 --- Segments --- Logical extent 0 to 35839: Type striped Stripes 2 Stripe size 64 KB Stripe 0: Physical volume /dev/sdb3 Physical extents 0 to 17919 Stripe 1: Physical volume /dev/sda3 Physical extents 0 to 17919 --- Logical volume --- LV Name /dev/system/LogVol00 VG Name system LV UUID tFDwd3-xyO7-g9TA-wn5i-ifWN-Jj7E-xHqGmB LV Write Access read/write LV Status available # open 1 LV Size 149.99 GB Current LE 38398 Segments 2 Allocation next free (default) Read ahead sectors 0 Block device 253:0 --- Segments --- Logical extent 0 to 19199: Type linear Physical volume /dev/sda2 Physical extents 0 to 19199 Logical extent 19200 to 38397: Type linear Physical volume /dev/sdb2 Physical extents 0 to 19197 So, what if anything did I do wrong? Or was this a problem with the older install? Is it fixed? From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Sep 20 19:19:10 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:19:10 +0200 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <20040920172858.21957.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20040920172858.21957.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <1095707950.4754.111.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Jon, On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 19:28, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > A change from 1400 seconds (ext3) to 1583 (reiser4) strikes me as more > than noise. I didn't state the results are just noise, just that when testing the file system specifically doing this with a CPU intensive task the signal/noise ratio will suffer. However > Reiser4 is a CPU-heavy filesystem - by admission of its own developers. > So its performance will certainly suffer, relative to lighter > filesystems, when executing a CPU-intensive, filesystem-intensive task. I hadn't considered reiser4 is much more CPU intensive than ext3, which indeed makes the distinction between CPU and fs intensive less clear, and speaks for your approach. That's the trouble with benchmarking, you have to know what you want to test. And it's important to make such considerations explicit when publishing results. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From mailinglists at andreas-mueller.com Mon Sep 20 19:25:37 2004 From: mailinglists at andreas-mueller.com (Andreas Mueller) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:25:37 +0200 Subject: FC3Blocker candidate/Anaconda crashes when editing LVM volume Message-ID: <200409202125.38001.mailinglists@andreas-mueller.com> Hello, during installation (not upgrade) of FC3test2 I wanted to manually edit the partitions. When selecting an existing LVM volume and clicking on "Edit" (to select the mount point), anaconda crashes. I think this is a candidate for the FC3Blocker. Bugzilla report, anaconda dump is included there: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132993 Regards, Andreas From michel.salim at gmail.com Mon Sep 20 20:06:09 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:06:09 -0500 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <414F1348.8000104@didntduck.org> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <1095693846.4485.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1095693721.3181.63.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <414F1348.8000104@didntduck.org> Message-ID: <883cfe6d040920130620c56231@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:28:40 -0400, Brian Gerst wrote: > Mark Haney wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:24, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > > >>On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:01 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > >> > >>use a rewritable cd > >> > > > > Okay here's the $20 question how do I write an ISO to a CD-RW without > > destroying the CD? > > Erase the disc first, then burn it just like a CD-R. > That's noe even necessary, you can just pass 'blank=all' or 'blank=fast' to cdrecord at the same time you're burning your ISO. It will determine automatically if blanking needs to be done or not. And you can always make an image of the CD's previous content before you wipe it out too. -- Michel Salim ??? http://salimma.livejournal.com From willje01 at luther.edu Mon Sep 20 20:17:06 2004 From: willje01 at luther.edu (Jeff Williams) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:17:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: via sata raid Message-ID: <49245.172.17.8.228.1095711426.squirrel@172.17.8.228> I am using the via 8237 sata chipset and I have raid 0 setup on it. Fedora Core 3 Test 1 sees the chipset and loads the via_sata (I think that's what it's called) module and then sees the two hard drives as being separate. Is there a way that I can get the installer to see the raid setup? I setup the raid in the raid bios, so it's not that it's a windows only thing. I have tried using via's linux raid package. I used dd to make a driver disk from the viamraid.img file that comes with that package, but fedora install said it could not mount the driver disk. Maybe I should try the recently released fc3 test 2. If anyone could provide some insight it would be much appreciated. Thanks. Jeff Williams From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Mon Sep 20 20:41:22 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:41:22 +0300 Subject: via sata raid In-Reply-To: <49245.172.17.8.228.1095711426.squirrel@172.17.8.228> References: <49245.172.17.8.228.1095711426.squirrel@172.17.8.228> Message-ID: <200409202341.22731.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Jeff Williams kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika maanantai, 20. syyskuuta 2004 23:17): > I am using the via 8237 sata chipset and I have raid 0 setup > on it. Linux SATA RAID FAQ: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From robertcahn at hotmail.com Mon Sep 20 20:58:58 2004 From: robertcahn at hotmail.com (Robert Cahn) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:58:58 -0400 Subject: Support of PCI wireless cards. References: <20040920191923.D3CED73895@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: The discussion of wireless seems to be for PCMCIA cards. What is the status of the support for PCI cards? I have an inconveniently located desktop. /Bob Robert Cahn Gipsy Trail Club Carmel, NY 10512 845-225-0265, 917-312-3409 (cell) rcahn at ieee.org ----- Original Message ----- > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:20:52 -0500 (CDT) > From: Satish Balay > Subject: Re: wireless expectations FC3T2 > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > I guess there is always a choice.. if I want to eat the cost. What card[s] > > have the best support? Where I could just expect it to work like my older > > pcmcia (non-wireless netgear) cards do? > > Lets look at it the other way. The current rawhide kernel has the > following kernel moules: (If you can find the matching cards for any > of these drivers. ) > > [balay at localhost ~]$ ls /lib/modules/2.6.8-1.541/kernel/drivers/net/wireless > airo_cs.ko atmel.ko netwave_cs.ko orinoco_pci.ko prism54 wl3501_cs.ko > airo.ko atmel_pci.ko orinoco_cs.ko orinoco_plx.ko wavelan_cs.ko > atmel_cs.ko hermes.ko orinoco.ko orinoco_tmd.ko wavelan.ko > > The easy ones would be prism54 (and the good old orinoco ones which > aren't for sale anymore) > > Satish > > > > From fkooman at bromstraat.net Mon Sep 20 21:06:18 2004 From: fkooman at bromstraat.net (F. Kooman) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:06:18 +0200 Subject: Support of PCI wireless cards. In-Reply-To: References: <20040920191923.D3CED73895@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095714378.15288.1.camel@dilithium.bromstraat.net> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 22:58, Robert Cahn wrote: > The discussion of wireless seems to be for PCMCIA cards. What is the status > of the support for PCI cards? I have an inconveniently located desktop. I'm using a Netgear MA311 802.11b (PCI) card using the orinoco_pci driver works out of the box. See http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/HardwareComparison for a extensive hardware list including notes for Linux drivers. Fran?ois -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Mon Sep 20 17:20:47 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:20:47 -0400 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 Message-ID: Dan Williams @redhat.com on 09/20/2004 12:52:11 PM wrote: > Cards I've personally tested: > > Lucent WaveLan Gold > Cisco Aironet 340/350 > NetGear WG511 (_NOT_ WG511T) > Belkin F5D6020 v1, v2 > Intel ProWireless 2100/2200 Does FC3T2 support the Intel out-of-the-box? or did you do something special? is so what (fool-proof) instructions did you use? From lnxxprt at arcor.de Mon Sep 20 21:53:43 2004 From: lnxxprt at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:53:43 +0200 Subject: fc3t2: mkbootdisk does not work with floppy disk Message-ID: <414F5167.1000002@arcor.de> [root at gateway boot]# mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 2.6.8-1.541 Insert a disk in /dev/fd0. Any information on the disk will be lost. Press to continue or ^C to abort: cp: writing `/tmp/mkbootdisk.WB6069/initrd.img': No space left on device cat: write error: No space left on device cat: write error: No space left on device 20+0 records in 20+0 records out booting from this floppy does not work, of course. /ds From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Mon Sep 20 22:04:43 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:04:43 +0200 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1095717883.2951.6.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 20.09.2004 schrieb Harry Putnam um 18:01: > > If you have a choice you should avoid atheros for now until the driver > > is in a better shape. > > I guess there is always a choice.. if I want to eat the cost. What > card[s] have the best support? Where I could just expect it to work > like my older pcmcia (non-wireless netgear) cards do? Others have suggest some well supported cards. I would look on ebay for an old orinoco PCMCIA card. They are 11 mbit and therefore pretty cheap. I did so for myself. My IBM Thinkpad has a build in atheros based adapter, but sometimes I have just to work :-) Peter From ahwkong at ahwkong.com Mon Sep 20 22:07:05 2004 From: ahwkong at ahwkong.com (A. Kong) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:07:05 +1000 Subject: Best way to upgrade to T2 In-Reply-To: <1095695221.3181.76.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <1095692484.3181.51.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <20040920153038.GC638200@hiwaay.net> <1095695221.3181.76.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <414F5489.2050704@ahwkong.com> That looks neat and simple! For me, I have followed the yum method: http://linux.duke.edu/%7Eskvidal/misc/fc1-fc2-yum-hints.txt Cheers, AK Mark Haney wrote: >On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:30, Chris Adams wrote: > > >>Once upon a time, Mark Haney said: >> >> >>>What's the best way to upgrade to Test 2 without wasting CD's? I want >>>to do an FTP install, but don't really want to waste a CD for the >>>boot.iso file. IS there a way around that? >>> >>> >>If you already have a running system, do (of course you should change >>the wget lines to your favorite mirror): >> >>su - >>cd /boot >>mkdir fc3t2 >>cd fc3t2 >>wget http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/i386/os/images/pxeboot/vmlinuz >>wget http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/i386/os/images/pxeboot/initrd.img >>grubby --title "FC3t2 installer" --add-kernel=/boot/fc3t2/vmlinuz --initrd=/boot/fc3t2/initrd.img --args='ramdisk_size=8192' >> >> > >Chris, this was perfect. It works well with VMware (which is where I >have T1 installed). This is the best thing since sliced bread (okay >maybe not, but I learned something!) > > > > >>-- >>Chris Adams >>Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services >>I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. >> >> > >-------------------------------------- >Mark Haney >Network Administrator >InterAct Public Safety Systems >mhaney at interactsys.com >Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux >11:45:54 up 4:07, 2 users, load average: 2.20, 1.72, 1.60 > > > > From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Mon Sep 20 22:09:24 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:09:24 +0200 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <414F1464.7090704@arcor.de> References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> <414F1464.7090704@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1095718164.2951.12.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 20.09.2004 schrieb D. Stolte um 19:33: > the acpi and interrupt problems of madwifi are history. to be fair these > were problems of the early 2.6 kernels and not madwifis. i also tested > some cards (prism2 and prism54) and i have the best experience with the > netgear 511t and the madwifi driver. Well, must be a pretty "young" history. And the biggest problems are/were with the 2.6.8-1 kernel, I'm still using 2.6.7-1 because I couldn't manage to get it working. But, I don't want to blame the madwifi project! I appreciate their efforts. But sometimes I have just to do my work :-) Peter From notting at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 22:13:07 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:13:07 -0400 Subject: hotplug change in tomorrow's build Message-ID: <20040920221307.GA3375@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> The default firmware directory for hotplug is being changed to /lib/firmware from /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware. This is being done so that device module loading on boot will work correctly. This will affect those of you with prism54, ipw2100/ipw2200 cards, and other cards that need hotplugged firmware. Bill From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Sep 20 22:26:17 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:26:17 -0500 Subject: FC3 T2 First Impressions Message-ID: <414F5909.8070206@earthlink.net> Full install, selecting everything from DVD worked flawlessly. No hitches with first boot. Default gnome enviroment looks great. Even the font size doesn't need adjustment to suit me. Great job from the development team! Thanks. Gerry Tool From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Mon Sep 20 22:40:10 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:40:10 +0100 Subject: fc3t2: mkbootdisk does not work with floppy disk In-Reply-To: <414F5167.1000002@arcor.de> References: <414F5167.1000002@arcor.de> Message-ID: <20040920224010.GA19090@nsk.no-ip.org> On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 11:53:43PM +0200, D. Stolte wrote: > [root at gateway boot]# mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 2.6.8-1.541 > Insert a disk in /dev/fd0. Any information on the disk will be lost. > Press to continue or ^C to abort: > cp: writing `/tmp/mkbootdisk.WB6069/initrd.img': No space left on device > cat: write error: No space left on device > cat: write error: No space left on device > 20+0 records in > 20+0 records out > > booting from this floppy does not work, of course. Booting from floppy is not supported. The kernel has gotten pretty big... Regards, Luciano Rocha From lnxxprt at arcor.de Mon Sep 20 22:58:50 2004 From: lnxxprt at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:58:50 +0200 Subject: fc3t2: mkbootdisk does not work with floppy disk In-Reply-To: <20040920224010.GA19090@nsk.no-ip.org> References: <414F5167.1000002@arcor.de> <20040920224010.GA19090@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <414F60AA.9080908@arcor.de> i should have mentioned that i know that the files are too big. but why does mkbootdisk a) write to floppy despite this fact b) does not tell the user that floppy does not work and he should use the iso option instead? i just had a talk with a newbie who wanted to test fc3t2 and he ran into this problem. i think it is not too hard to put a line like "if $dev = /dev/fd*" then ... in it to prevent this. /ds Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha schrieb: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 11:53:43PM +0200, D. Stolte wrote: > >>[root at gateway boot]# mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 2.6.8-1.541 >>Insert a disk in /dev/fd0. Any information on the disk will be lost. >>Press to continue or ^C to abort: >>cp: writing `/tmp/mkbootdisk.WB6069/initrd.img': No space left on device >>cat: write error: No space left on device >>cat: write error: No space left on device >>20+0 records in >>20+0 records out >> >>booting from this floppy does not work, of course. > > > Booting from floppy is not supported. The kernel has gotten pretty > big... > > Regards, > Luciano Rocha > > From jfm512 at free.fr Mon Sep 20 21:12:41 2004 From: jfm512 at free.fr (Jean Francois Martinez) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:12:41 +0200 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <1095714761.2867.66.camel@agnes> Le lun 20/09/2004 ? 16:31, Jonathan Corbet a ?crit : > Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > First of all it looks like the guy divided his 4GB disk in two 2G > > partitions and installed Reiser on one partition and EXT3 in the > > other. WRONG! Modern disks have more sectors in the outer, > > lower numbered tracks. Meaning that you will get higher throughput > > from hda1 than from hda2. > > Wrong indeed. The same partition was used for all tests. One can give > me a little credit, even if it hurts. > Sorry, when I saw you used a 2G partition on a 4G disk I thought you had cut in two halves, one for Reiser, the other one for EXT3. > > He also compiled the kernel as a benchmark. 99% of times this is the > > touchstone for lack of proper thinking in benchmarking. > > Because I benchmarked an actual task that my readers are likely to > perform? > The other day I had a discussion with the sysadmin of another department and our common position was: 1) The state of the art in kernel building (ie use of modules and cpu detection by the installer) allows vendors to ship kernels whose performance is close enough to a custom built one the user should not need to bother with recompiling. 2) If the kernel you get out of the box is an underperformer then it is a _bug_. And we both refuse to fix the bad work of a vendor: if he doesn't fix the bug then he is out. So here you have two persons who administer several Linux and Unix boxes who never compile kernels but who run databases (both free and proprietary). > Look, the benchmarks in the LWN articles were a low-value exercise, just > to get a rough feel for the performance benefits claimed by reiser4. I > believe I succeeded in that goal. Among other things, I turned up the > fact that, if you fail to create your files in the right order, > performance suffers significantly - something which the Namesys > marketing literature somehow failed to mention. > That is good. Now forgive me a former statistician who tends to be pedantic (and harsh) about benchmarks. > jon > > Jonathan Corbet > Executive editor, LWN.net > corbet at lwn.net > From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Mon Sep 20 23:11:39 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:11:39 +0100 Subject: fc3t2: mkbootdisk does not work with floppy disk In-Reply-To: <414F60AA.9080908@arcor.de> References: <414F5167.1000002@arcor.de> <20040920224010.GA19090@nsk.no-ip.org> <414F60AA.9080908@arcor.de> Message-ID: <20040920231139.GA21474@nsk.no-ip.org> On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 12:58:50AM +0200, D. Stolte wrote: > i should have mentioned that i know that the files are too big. but why > does mkbootdisk > a) write to floppy despite this fact > b) does not tell the user that floppy does not work and he should use > the iso option instead? * some floppies should have sufficient size (2880 KB) * some devices aren't floppies but can use the same method for being made bootable * unix tools tend to believe the administrator, and don't get in the way > i just had a talk with a newbie who wanted to test fc3t2 and he ran into > this problem. i think it is not too hard to put a line like "if $dev = > /dev/fd*" then ... in it to prevent this. I don't see why would a newbie have to run mkbootdisk at all, but at least he must have learnt something. :) Regards, Luciano Rocha From picomp314 at picomp314.serveftp.net Mon Sep 20 23:20:05 2004 From: picomp314 at picomp314.serveftp.net (picomp314) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:20:05 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <1095718164.2951.12.camel@littlePiet> References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> <414F1464.7090704@arcor.de> <1095718164.2951.12.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <414F65A5.90300@picomp314.serveftp.net> I know how to get it working! You have to download a patch mentioned in the FAQ for the madwifi CVS, after that it works quite well indeed. The 2.6.8.x series changed some things that the madwifi driver writers haven't been able to catch up to yet... Peter wrote: > Am Mo, den 20.09.2004 schrieb D. Stolte um 19:33: > >>the acpi and interrupt problems of madwifi are history. to be fair these >>were problems of the early 2.6 kernels and not madwifis. i also tested >>some cards (prism2 and prism54) and i have the best experience with the >>netgear 511t and the madwifi driver. > > > Well, must be a pretty "young" history. And the biggest problems > are/were with the 2.6.8-1 kernel, I'm still using 2.6.7-1 because I > couldn't manage to get it working. > > But, I don't want to blame the madwifi project! I appreciate their > efforts. But sometimes I have just to do my work :-) > > > Peter > > > > > > From lnxxprt at arcor.de Mon Sep 20 23:30:35 2004 From: lnxxprt at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 01:30:35 +0200 Subject: fc3t2: mkbootdisk does not work with floppy disk In-Reply-To: <20040920231139.GA21474@nsk.no-ip.org> References: <414F5167.1000002@arcor.de> <20040920224010.GA19090@nsk.no-ip.org> <414F60AA.9080908@arcor.de> <20040920231139.GA21474@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <414F681B.9000501@arcor.de> Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha schrieb: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 12:58:50AM +0200, D. Stolte wrote: > >>i should have mentioned that i know that the files are too big. but why >>does mkbootdisk >>a) write to floppy despite this fact >>b) does not tell the user that floppy does not work and he should use >>the iso option instead? > > > * some floppies should have sufficient size (2880 KB) the standard pc you buy around the corner did/does usually not have such a floppy. > * some devices aren't floppies but can use the same method for being > made bootable via /dev/fdX ? > * unix tools tend to believe the administrator, and don't get in the way sometimes they should! you do check for error conditions in programs too dont you? everything else is an ugly hack. >>i just had a talk with a newbie who wanted to test fc3t2 and he ran into >>this problem. i think it is not too hard to put a line like "if $dev = >>/dev/fd*" then ... in it to prevent this. > > > I don't see why would a newbie have to run mkbootdisk at all, but at > least he must have learnt something. :) there are some ppl out there who are annoyed by the monopoly OS and they try linux. and they follow the guides and howtos they find like this newbie. he was advised to make a bootdisk to be on the safe side. the guides and the usage print of mkbootdisk show a floppy device to use. so guess what newbies do? /ds From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 20 23:46:46 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:46:46 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 -feature list In-Reply-To: <740.1095694173@www51.gmx.net> References: <740.1095694173@www51.gmx.net> Message-ID: <414F6BE6.6030703@sbcglobal.net> Markus Nicolussi wrote: > Hello! > > I want to know what is inside FC3T2 before installing it blindly. Where can > i find some sort of feature list for Test2? On http://fedora.redhat.com i > get stuck. > > ciao, nico. > Related to X, the 815 Graphics controller and the radeon 7200 Graphics controller are less than ideal. Nifty new features for me. I like the desktop icons for drives connected, but not mounted on your system. This allows for simpler disc access and you do not have to add the drives to your fstab file and designate mount points. The speed over FC2 is noticable to me, referencing a very recent upgraded system from FC2. Searching bugzilla for other submitted problems might give you a general idea regarding the hardware that you plan to use for the test installation. Refresh problems related to X when not using DRI is my major distraction. The other noticed problem is when trying to boot an earlier version when having an FC3T2 volume mounted in the older installation will drop you to the maint. shell. This problem relates to even as recent as FC3T1, the utilities for filechecking are too new for your earlier system to filesystem check. This reference is from FC3T2 release candidate 2. I am still DLing the actual FC3T2 discs via ftp. Jim From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Sep 21 00:33:54 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 01:33:54 +0100 Subject: Nice, but a problem Message-ID: <1095726834.4652.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, Well, I've done the upgrade proper from rawhide (lots of updates) to new drives, clean install and everything else. It works well and looks healthy. Only one problem : system-config-soundcard won't work. All I get is... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/system-config-soundcard.py", line 46, in ? app = soundcard.childWindow() File "/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcard.py", line 87, in __init__ self.device, self.module, self.maker, self.model = self.soundcardBackend.getData(card) File "/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcardBackend.py", line 98, in getData maker, model = string.split(description, "|") ValueError: unpack list of wrong size Incase it's me, I'll wait before putting it into bugzilla. TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 18 18:59:31 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:59:31 +0100 Subject: gconf-editor SIGSEVS Message-ID: <1095533971.5037.11.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Running gconf-editor, I'm getting the following as a standard user Failed to write "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf-editor/% gconf.xml": Failed to open "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf- editor/%gconf.xml.new": Permission denied Failed to write "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf-editor/% gconf.xml": Failed to open "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf- editor/%gconf.xml.new": Permission denied Segmentation fault It is not asking me for the root password. Running from the gnome menu gives a starting gconf-editor icon in the window selector and then dies quietly. Running as su gives (gconf-editor:5982): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. Segmentation fault And through strace really reveals not much... execve("/usr/bin/gconf-editor", ["gconf-editor"], [/* 37 vars */]) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="T7.linux", ...}) = 0 brk(0) = 0x8363000 access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=166706, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 166706, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xf6fd7000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0\373\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=583912, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x4ff6000, 584172, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4ff6000 old_mmap(0x5081000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x8a000) = 0x5081000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0000 \0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=31360, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 30296, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x27f000 old_mmap(0x286000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x7000) = 0x286000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\2206\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=85184, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fd6000 old_mmap(NULL, 95536, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xd8c000 old_mmap(0xda1000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x14000) = 0xda1000 old_mmap(0xda2000, 5424, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xda2000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\20|\26"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=386676, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x5152000, 383120, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x5152000 old_mmap(0x51ad000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x5b000) = 0x51ad000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libxml2.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0@`w\005"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=943872, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x575d000, 976820, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x575d000 old_mmap(0x583b000, 32768, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xde000) = 0x583b000 old_mmap(0x5843000, 34740, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x5843000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/tls/libpthread.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 at G\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=105916, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 70128, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x45b000 old_mmap(0x469000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xd000) = 0x469000 old_mmap(0x46b000, 4592, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x46b000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libz.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\260\25"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=62152, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 65028, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x3b2000 old_mmap(0x3c1000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xe000) = 0x3c1000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340\361"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=178504, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x3b7000, 175096, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x111000 old_mmap(0x13b000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x2a000) = 0x13b000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 b\376\004"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=79840, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fd5000 old_mmap(0x4fe1000, 76432, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4fe1000 old_mmap(0x4ff3000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x12000) = 0x4ff3000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libpopt.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 at B\332\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=27868, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xda3000, 25392, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x13c000 old_mmap(0x142000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x6000) = 0x142000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340\362"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=86876, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x9fd000, 88344, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x9fd000 old_mmap(0xa12000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x14000) = 0xa12000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\260\362"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=157304, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xc79000, 154576, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xc79000 old_mmap(0xc9e000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x25000) = 0xc9e000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0\36\4"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=2821936, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 2833336, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x58c000 old_mmap(0x834000, 36864, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x2a8000) = 0x834000 old_mmap(0x83d000, 11192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x83d000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\260\34"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=437640, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 441076, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xdf5000 old_mmap(0xe5c000, 20480, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x66000) = 0xe5c000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\360\341"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=106144, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fd4000 old_mmap(0xc38000, 103980, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xc38000 old_mmap(0xc50000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x18000) = 0xc50000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 1\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=81416, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 84360, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x47c000 old_mmap(0x490000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x13000) = 0x490000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\2009\307"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=20244, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xc72000, 17132, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xc72000 old_mmap(0xc76000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x4000) = 0xc76000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220\351"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=45268, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xc2b000, 42480, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xc2b000 old_mmap(0xc35000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xa000) = 0xc35000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0\313\277"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=217560, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xbf3000, 219116, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xbf3000 old_mmap(0xc24000, 20480, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x30000) = 0xc24000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 Z\234\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=239924, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x9bf000, 242816, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x9bf000 old_mmap(0x9f9000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x39000) = 0x9f9000 old_mmap(0x9fa000, 1152, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x9fa000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0@\25\372"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=357844, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fd3000 old_mmap(0x4f88000, 355304, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4f88000 old_mmap(0x4fd5000, 40960, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x4d000) = 0x4fd5000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220\6\323"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=213392, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xd25000, 210716, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xd25000 old_mmap(0xd56000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x31000) = 0xd56000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\20Z\341"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=390292, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x4dff000, 388236, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4dff000 old_mmap(0x4e59000, 20480, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x5a000) = 0x4e59000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libbonobo-activation.so.4", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0@\375\336"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=80260, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x4de9000, 81632, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4de9000 old_mmap(0x4dfa000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x10000) = 0x4dfa000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0000\315"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=329932, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x4d95000, 332772, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4d95000 old_mmap(0x4ddb000, 45056, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x45000) = 0x4ddb000 old_mmap(0x4de6000, 996, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4de6000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/tls/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0003\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=212692, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 139424, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4db000 old_mmap(0x4fc000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x20000) = 0x4fc000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240\254"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=11192, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fd2000 old_mmap(0x9ba000, 8720, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x9ba000 old_mmap(0x9bc000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x2000) = 0x9bc000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libdl.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\360\n\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=14624, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 12384, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x54d000 old_mmap(0x54f000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1000) = 0x54f000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0PA\337\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=15440, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xdf3000, 12884, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x143000 old_mmap(0x146000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x3000) = 0x146000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0000\227"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=505200, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x93d000, 503692, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x93d000 old_mmap(0x9b7000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x7a000) = 0x9b7000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/tls/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\260K\1"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1488740, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 1195116, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x287000 old_mmap(0x3a5000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x11d000) = 0x3a5000 old_mmap(0x3a9000, 7276, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x3a9000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgnome-keyring.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340\355"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=35236, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xddc000, 36784, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xddc000 old_mmap(0xde4000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x7000) = 0xde4000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0000\3\205"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=123672, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fd1000 old_mmap(0x84e000, 125172, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x84e000 old_mmap(0x86c000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1d000) = 0x86c000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340\23"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=813240, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 813336, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb2b000 old_mmap(0xbee000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xc3000) = 0xbee000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libesd.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\360\267"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=38332, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x5b79000, 35704, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x5b79000 old_mmap(0x5b81000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x8000) = 0x5b81000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0@\245\270"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=145820, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x5b84000, 147380, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x5b84000 old_mmap(0x5ba5000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x20000) = 0x5ba5000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240Q\200"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=149780, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fd0000 old_mmap(0x7fd000, 154872, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x16a000 old_mmap(0x18c000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x21000) = 0x18c000 old_mmap(0x18f000, 3320, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x18f000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`\332v\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=424068, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x75f000, 421440, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x190000 old_mmap(0x1f0000, 28672, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x60000) = 0x1f0000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\360\v\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=9692, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 8668, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x147000 old_mmap(0x149000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x2000) = 0x149000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340\21"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=27360, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 30528, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x14a000 old_mmap(0x151000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x6000) = 0x151000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\300\10"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=6448, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 9472, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x1f7000 old_mmap(0x1f9000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1000) = 0x1f9000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`:\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=68760, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fcf000 old_mmap(NULL, 71768, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xafb000 old_mmap(0xb0c000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x10000) = 0xb0c000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libXcursor.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0@\"\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=31252, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 34280, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x276000 old_mmap(0x27e000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x7000) = 0x27e000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0000\23\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=28244, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 31272, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x545000 old_mmap(0x54c000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x6000) = 0x54c000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220&\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=52160, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 55476, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x1fa000 old_mmap(0x207000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xc000) = 0x207000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\204\314"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=19144, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xd5b000, 16256, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xd5b000 old_mmap(0xd5e000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x3000) = 0xd5e000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libssl.so.4", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 at F\327\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=221820, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fce000 old_mmap(0xd6b000, 220884, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x208000 old_mmap(0x23b000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x33000) = 0x23b000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libcrypto.so.4", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0000I\256"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=973244, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xaba000, 985336, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xe61000 old_mmap(0xf3d000, 69632, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xdc000) = 0xf3d000 old_mmap(0xf4e000, 14584, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf4e000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\320\214"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=82944, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xaa4000, 80272, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xaa4000 old_mmap(0xab7000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x13000) = 0xab7000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libkrb5.so.3", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`\230\242"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=415188, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xa1a000, 413000, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xa1a000 old_mmap(0xa7d000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x63000) = 0xa7d000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libcom_err.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\354X\241"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=7004, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xa15000, 8636, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xa15000 old_mmap(0xa17000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1000) = 0xa17000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libk5crypto.so.3", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`B\250\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=136044, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xa81000, 134560, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xa81000 old_mmap(0xaa1000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x20000) = 0xaa1000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libhowl-0.9.6.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0PK\346\004"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=81684, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fcd000 old_mmap(0x4e60000, 1202664, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x4e60000 old_mmap(0x4e73000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x13000) = 0x4e73000 old_mmap(0x4e74000, 1120744, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4e74000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libresolv.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0P\'\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=74204, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 76136, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x23e000 old_mmap(0x24d000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xe000) = 0x24d000 old_mmap(0x24f000, 6504, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x24f000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/tls/librt.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340 \0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=49096, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 81912, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x251000 old_mmap(0x259000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x7000) = 0x259000 old_mmap(0x25b000, 40952, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x25b000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libasound.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`zB\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=686844, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x40a000, 687136, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x86d000 old_mmap(0x911000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xa3000) = 0x911000 close(3) = 0 mprotect(0xfefd2000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC| PROT_GROWSDOWN) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\320\237"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=127592, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0x7c8000, 124868, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x3c2000 old_mmap(0x3df000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1d000) = 0x3df000 close(3) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fcc000 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fcb000 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fca000 mprotect(0x259000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x3a5000, 8192, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x54f000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x4fc000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x469000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 -> 6, base_addr:0xf6fca2a0, limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0 munmap(0xf6fd7000, 166706) = 0 set_tid_address(0xf6fca2e8) = 6004 rt_sigaction(SIGRTMIN, {0x45f3a0, [], SA_RESTORER|SA_SIGINFO, 0x466520}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [RTMIN], NULL, 8) = 0 getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, {rlim_cur=10240*1024, rlim_max=RLIM_INFINITY}) = 0 _sysctl({{CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION}, 2, 0xfefd2928, 34, (nil), 0}) = 0 brk(0) = 0x8363000 brk(0x8384000) = 0x8384000 geteuid32() = 0 getuid32() = 0 getegid32() = 0 getgid32() = 0 sched_getparam(6004, { 0 }) = 0 sched_getscheduler(6004) = 0 (SCHED_OTHER) sched_get_priority_min(SCHED_OTHER) = 0 sched_get_priority_max(SCHED_OTHER) = 0 sched_get_priority_max(SCHED_OTHER) = 0 open("/usr/lib/charset.alias", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) getuid32() = 0 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 3 fcntl64(3, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR) fcntl64(3, F_SETFL, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/var/run/nscd/socket"}, 110) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) close(3) = 0 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 3 fcntl64(3, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR) fcntl64(3, F_SETFL, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/var/run/nscd/socket"}, 110) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) close(3) = 0 open("/etc/nsswitch.conf", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1686, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fff000 read(3, "#\n# /etc/nsswitch.conf\n#\n# An ex"..., 4096) = 1686 read(3, "", 4096) = 0 close(3) = 0 munmap(0xf6fff000, 4096) = 0 open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=166706, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 166706, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xf6fd7000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libnss_files.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`\33\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=47224, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 41628, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x265000 old_mmap(0x26e000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x8000) = 0x26e000 close(3) = 0 mprotect(0x26e000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 munmap(0xf6fd7000, 166706) = 0 open("/etc/passwd", O_RDONLY) = 3 fcntl64(3, F_GETFD) = 0 fcntl64(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2984, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6fff000 read(3, "root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash\n"..., 4096) = 2984 close(3) = 0 munmap(0xf6fff000, 4096) = 0 getcwd("/home/paul", 4096) = 11 rt_sigaction(SIGSEGV, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGABRT, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGTRAP, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGFPE, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGBUS, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 open("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=38651632, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 2097152, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xf6dca000 mmap2(NULL, 204800, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0x9b4) = 0xf6d98000 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0x9f6) = 0xf6d97000 close(3) = 0 getresuid32([0], [0], [0]) = 0 getresgid32([0], [0], [0]) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=57362, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d96000 read(3, "#\t$XdotOrg: xc/nls/locale.alias,"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "_BE.ISO8859-1\nde_BE.ISO_8859-1\t\t"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "\t\t\t\tes_BO.ISO8859-1\nes_BO.iso885"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "SO8859-15\nfr_FR at euro\t\t\t\t\tfr_FR.I"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, ".EUC-KR\t\t\t\t\tko_KR.eucKR\nko_KR.eu"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "pt_PT.utf8\t\t\t\t\tpt_PT.UTF-8\npt_PT"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "9-15\nwa_BE at euro\t\t\t\t\twa_BE.ISO885"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, ":\t\t\t\t\t\tC\nC.en:\t\t\t\t\t\tC\nC.iso88591"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "_8859-1:\t\t\t\tde_CH.ISO8859-1\nde_C"..., 4096) = 4096 close(3) = 0 munmap(0xf6d96000, 4096) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.dir", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=30099, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d96000 read(3, "#\t$XdotOrg: xc/nls/locale.dir,v "..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "SO8859-1\niso8859-1/XLC_LOCALE\t\t\t"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "LC_LOCALE\t\t\tsv_SE.ISO8859-15\ntsc"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "OCALE\t\t\tfr_LU.UTF-8\nen_US.UTF-8/"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "-1\niso8859-15/XLC_LOCALE:\t\t\tca_E"..., 4096) = 4096 close(3) = 0 munmap(0xf6d96000, 4096) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-1/XI18N_OBJS", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=341, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d96000 read(3, "# CATEGORY(XLC|XIM|OM)\tSHARED_LI"..., 4096) = 341 read(3, "", 4096) = 0 close(3) = 0 munmap(0xf6d96000, 4096) = 0 futex(0x55005c, FUTEX_WAKE, 2147483647) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcDef.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\320\6\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=6820, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 9832, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x270000 old_mmap(0x272000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1000) = 0x272000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=57362, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d96000 read(3, "#\t$XdotOrg: xc/nls/locale.alias,"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "_BE.ISO8859-1\nde_BE.ISO_8859-1\t\t"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "\t\t\t\tes_BO.ISO8859-1\nes_BO.iso885"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "SO8859-15\nfr_FR at euro\t\t\t\t\tfr_FR.I"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, ".EUC-KR\t\t\t\t\tko_KR.eucKR\nko_KR.eu"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "pt_PT.utf8\t\t\t\t\tpt_PT.UTF-8\npt_PT"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "9-15\nwa_BE at euro\t\t\t\t\twa_BE.ISO885"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, ":\t\t\t\t\t\tC\nC.en:\t\t\t\t\t\tC\nC.iso88591"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "_8859-1:\t\t\t\tde_CH.ISO8859-1\nde_C"..., 4096) = 4096 close(3) = 0 munmap(0xf6d96000, 4096) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.dir", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=30099, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d96000 read(3, "#\t$XdotOrg: xc/nls/locale.dir,v "..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "SO8859-1\niso8859-1/XLC_LOCALE\t\t\t"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "LC_LOCALE\t\t\tsv_SE.ISO8859-15\ntsc"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "OCALE\t\t\tfr_LU.UTF-8\nen_US.UTF-8/"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "-1\niso8859-15/XLC_LOCALE:\t\t\tca_E"..., 4096) = 4096 close(3) = 0 munmap(0xf6d96000, 4096) = 0 access("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-1/XLC_LOCALE", R_OK) = 0 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-1/XLC_LOCALE", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=798, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d96000 read(3, "# $Xorg: iso8859-1,v 1.3 2000/0"..., 4096) = 798 read(3, "", 4096) = 0 close(3) = 0 munmap(0xf6d96000, 4096) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2528, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d96000 read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) = 2528 read(3, "", 4096) = 0 close(3) = 0 munmap(0xf6d96000, 4096) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=32656, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 32656, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xf6d8f000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=21544, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 21544, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) = 0xf6d89000 close(3) = 0 futex(0x3a814c, FUTEX_WAKE, 2147483647) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20-properties.mo", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=91074, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 91074, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xf6d72000 close(3) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="T7.linux", ...}) = 0 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 3 getrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, {rlim_cur=1024, rlim_max=1024}) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="T7.linux", ...}) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="T7.linux", ...}) = 0 connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"}, 19) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="T7.linux", ...}) = 0 fcntl64(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 access("/root/.xauthk8lYWv", R_OK) = 0 open("/root/.xauthk8lYWv", O_RDONLY) = 4 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=53, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d71000 read(4, "\1\0\0\10T7.linux\0\0010\0\22MIT-MAGIC-COOKI"..., 4096) = 53 read(4, "", 4096) = 0 close(4) = 0 munmap(0xf6d71000, 4096) = 0 writev(3, [{"l\0\v\0\0\0\22\0\20\0\0\0", 12}, {"MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1", 18}, {"\0\0", 2}, {"\341\35\322DI-\330\256\200\336\4\313\320et\"", 16}], 4) = 48 fcntl64(3, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR) fcntl64(3, F_SETFL, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 read(3, "\1\0\v\0\0\0c\0", 8) = 8 read(3, "\0\274\237\3\0\0\340\1\377\377\37\0\0\1\0\0\24\0\377\377"..., 396) = 396 write(3, "7\0\5\0\0\0\340\1a\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\377\377\377\0b\0\5\0"..., 64) = 64 read(3, "\1\0\2\0\0\0\0\0\1\202\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\10\3\0\227\6\0\0\37\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\\\32\0\0\0\0\0\0\1"..., 32) = 32 readv(3, [{"*Box.background:\t#e6e1e1\n*Box.fo"..., 6748}, {"", 0}], 2) = 6748 write(3, "\202\0\1\0", 4) = 4 read(3, "\1\0\4\0\0\0\0\0\377\377?\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 writev(3, [{"b\0\5\0\t\0\340\1", 8}, {"XKEYBOARD", 9}, {"\0\0\0", 3}], 3) = 20 read(3, "\1\0\5\0\0\0\0\0\1\224n\255\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\224\0\2\0\1\0\0\0", 8) = 8 read(3, "\1\1\6\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300\372"..., 32) = 32 writev(3, [{"b\0\4\0\10\0\0\0", 8}, {"XINERAMA", 8}], 2) = 16 read(3, "\1\0\7\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300\372"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\2\0\4\0a\0\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\2\0\20\0\6\0\r\0\5\0_XSET"..., 84) = 84 read(3, "\1\316\t\0\0\0\0\0\352\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\316\n\0\0\0\0\0\353\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\316\v\0\0\0\0\0\354\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\3\0\2\0a\0\0\0\16\10\2\0a\0\0\0", 16) = 16 read(3, "\1\0\f\0\3\0\0\0#\0\0\0\1\0\1\1\377\377\377\377\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "3 \372\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\232\t", 12) = 12 read(3, "\1\30\r\0\0\0\0\0a\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\4\0\3\0\0\0\0\300\372"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\2\0\4\0a\0\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\2\0$\0\1\0\27\0\2\0\352\0"..., 28) = 28 read(3, "\1\357\20\0\0\0\0\0\3\0`\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\2\0\4\0\3\0`\0\0\10\0\0\0\0B\0%\0\1\0", 20) = 20 write(3, "\3\0\2\0\3\0`\0\16\10\2\0\3\0`\0", 16) = 16 read(3, "\1\0\23\0\3\0\0\0#\0\0\0\1\0\0\1\377\377\377\377\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\0\0B\0\0\0B\0\0\0\232\t", 12) = 12 read(3, "\1\30\24\0\0\0\0\0a\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\n\0\n\0\0\0\0\0\300\372"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\17\0\2\0\3\0`\0", 8) = 8 read(3, "\1\0\25\0\0\0\0\0a\0\0\0a\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0(\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\24\0\6\0\3\0`\0\353\0\0\0\353\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\377\377\377"..., 24) = 24 read(3, "\1\10\26\0M\0\0\0\353\0\0\0\0\0\0\0004\1\0\0\0\0\0\0(\0"..., 32) = 32 readv(3, [{"\0I6\0\0\0\0\0\t\0\0\0\1\0\f\0Gtk/FontName\0\0\0\0"..., 308}, {"", 0}], 2) = 308 write(3, "\1\30\r\0\1\0\340\1a\0\0\0\n\0\n\0\n\0\n\0\0\0\1\0#\0\0"..., 88) = 88 read(3, "\1\356\31\0\0\0\0\0\355\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\20\0\5\0\f\0\340\1_NET_WM_NAME", 20) = 20 read(3, "\1\0\32\0\0\0\0\0\356\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 open("/usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so", O_RDONLY) = 4 read(4, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\20\4\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=5336, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 8220, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 4, 0) = 0x273000 old_mmap(0x274000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 4, 0) = 0x274000 close(4) = 0 brk(0x83a7000) = 0x83a7000 write(3, "\22\0\t\0\1\0\340\1\356\0\0\0\355\0\0\0\10AME\f\0\0\0g"..., 100) = 100 read(3, "\34\270\33\0\1\0\340\1\356\0\0\0\1\220&\0\0\0\0\0\1\220"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\34\270\34\0\1\0\340\1\'\0\0\0\1\220&\0\0\0\0\0\1\220&"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\204\35\0\0\0\0\0\357\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\22\0\t\0\1\0\340\1\357\0\0\0\355\0\0\0\10AME\f\0\0\0g"..., 96) = 96 read(3, "\34\270\36\0\1\0\340\1\357\0\0\0\10\220&\0\0\0\0\0\10\220"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\34\270\37\0\1\0\340\1%\0\0\0\10\220&\0\0\0\0\0\10\220"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\204 \0\0\0\0\0\360\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\20\0\6\0\r\0\340\1WM_TAKE_FOCUS\0\0\0", 24) = 24 read(3, "\1\0!\0\0\0\0\0\361\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\20\0\5\0\f\0\340\1_NET_WM_PING", 20) = 20 read(3, "\1\0\"\0\0\0\0\0\362\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\20\0\5\0\f\0\340\1WM_PROTOCOLS", 20) = 20 read(3, "\1\0#\0\0\0\0\0\363\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 uname({sys="Linux", node="T7.linux", ...}) = 0 write(3, "\22\0\t\0\1\0\340\1\363\0\0\0\4\0\0\0 OLS\3\0\0\0\360\0"..., 252) = 252 read(3, "\34\270$\0\1\0\340\1\363\0\0\0\37\220&\0\0\0\0\0\37\220"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\34\270(\0\1\0\340\1(\0\0\0\37\220&\0\0\0\340\1\22\0\0"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\34\270)\0\1\0\340\1$\0\0\0\37\220&\0\0\0\0\0\37\220&\0"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\204*\0\0\0\0\0\364\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\22\0\10\0\1\0\340\1\364\0\0\0\37\0\0\0\10OLS\5\0\0\0e"..., 52) = 52 read(3, "\34\270+\0\1\0\340\1\364\0\0\0(\220&\0\0\0\0\0(\220&\0"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\204,\0\0\0\0\0\365\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\22\0\7\0\1\0\340\1\365\0\0\0\6\0\0\0 OLS\1\0\0\0t\27\0"..., 52) = 52 read(3, "\34\270-\0\1\0\340\1\365\0\0\0,\220&\0\0\0\0\0,\220&\0"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\204.\0\0\0\0\0\366\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\22\0\7\0\1\0\340\1\366\0\0\0!\0\0\0 OLS\1\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 384) = 384 read(3, "\34\270/\0\1\0\340\1\366\0\0\0003\220&\0\0\0\0\0003\220"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2040\0\0\0\0\0\367\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2041\0\0\0\0\0\370\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2042\0\0\0\0\0\371\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2043\0\0\0\0\0\372\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2044\0\0\0\0\0\373\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2045\0\0\0\0\0\374\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2046\0\0\0\0\0\375\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2047\0\0\0\0\0\376\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2048\0\0\0\0\0\377\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\2049\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\204:\0\0\0\0\0\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\204;\0\0\0\0\0\2\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 uname({sys="Linux", node="T7.linux", ...}) = 0 write(3, "\22\0\n\0\1\0\340\1\"\0\0\0\37\0\0\0\10OLS\r\0\0\0gcon"..., 228) = 228 read(3, "\34\270<\0\1\0\340\1\"\0\0\0O\220&\0\0\0\0\0O\220&\0x\270"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\34\270=\0\1\0\340\1$\0\0\0O\220&\0\0\0\0\0O\220&\0x\270"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\34\270>\0\1\0\340\1C\0\0\0O\220&\0\0\0\0\0O\220&\0x\270"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\34\270?\0\1\0\340\1\364\0\0\0O\220&\0\0\0\0\0O\220&\0"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\34\270@\0\1\0\340\1\365\0\0\0O\220&\0\0\0\0\0O\220&\0"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1\0B\0\0\0\0\0\37\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\330\204"..., 32) = 32 writev(3, [{"b\0\3\0\4\0\340\1", 8}, {"SYNC", 4}], 2) = 12 read(3, "\1\0C\0\0\0\0\0\1\203A\200\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\203\0\2\0\3\0\340\1", 8) = 8 read(3, "\1\0D\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300\372"..., 32) = 32 writev(3, [{"b\0\4\0\7\0\340\1", 8}, {"MIT-SHM", 7}, {"\0", 1}], 3) = 16 read(3, "\1\0E\0\0\0\0\0\1\221^\247\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\221\0\1\0", 4) = 4 read(3, "\1\1F\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 pipe([4, 5]) = 0 writev(3, [{"b\0\6\0\17\0\340\1", 8}, {"XInputExtension", 15}, {"\0", 1}], 3) = 24 read(3, "\1\0G\0\0\0\0\0\1\222_\250\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 writev(3, [{"b\0\6\0\17\0\340\1", 8}, {"XInputExtension", 15}, {"\0", 1}], 3) = 24 read(3, "\1\0H\0\0\0\0\0\1\222_\250\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300"..., 32) = 32 writev(3, [{"\222\1\6\0\17\0\340\1", 8}, {"XInputExtension", 15}, {"\0", 1}], 3) = 24 read(3, "\1\1I\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\27\0\0\0\300\372"..., 32) = 32 write(3, "\222\2\1\0", 4) = 4 read(3, "\1\2J\0\"\0\0\0\3\20\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0(\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "}\0\0\0\2\2\0\0{\0\0\0\0\2\2\t|\0\0\0\1\1\1\0\1\4\5\0\2"..., 136) = 136 write(3, "\222\3\2\0\0\0\340\1", 8) = 8 read(3, "\1\3K\0\2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\360&\16\10\27\0\0\0\20\204\223"..., 32) = 32 read(3, "\1b\2d\3\0\6i", 8) = 8 open("/etc/orbitrc", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/root/.orbitrc", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 pipe([6, 7]) = 0 pipe([8, 9]) = 0 fcntl64(9, F_SETFL, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 open("/tmp", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 10 fstat64(10, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISVTX|0777, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 fcntl64(10, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 getdents64(10, /* 21 entries */, 4096) = 688 stat64("/tmp/orbit-root", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 getuid32() = 0 getdents64(10, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 close(10) = 0 mkdir("/tmp/orbit-root", 0700) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) stat64("/tmp/orbit-root", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 getuid32() = 0 utime("/tmp/orbit-root", [0, 0]) = 0 getuid32() = 0 open("/dev/urandom", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 10 fstat64(10, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0444, st_rdev=makedev(1, 9), ...}) = 0 ioctl(10, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xfefd2778) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d71000 read(10, "\353L\37z\331\366\302S\275\370\376v\204\325\232M\216M\364"..., 4096) = 4096 close(10) = 0 munmap(0xf6d71000, 4096) = 0 gettimeofday({1095533406, 11635}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1095533406, 17430}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1095533406, 19944}, NULL) = 0 getuid32() = 0 access("/root/.gnome", F_OK) = 0 stat64("/root/.gnome", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/gconf-editor.mo", O_RDONLY) = 10 fstat64(10, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=6293, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 6293, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 10, 0) = 0xf6d70000 close(10) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/gconf-editor.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) gettimeofday({1095533406, 37950}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1095533406, 40940}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1095533406, 43065}, NULL) = 0 pipe([10, 11]) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {0x4e3e592, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 fstat64(10, {st_mode=S_IFIFO|0600, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 fcntl64(10, F_GETFL) = 0 (flags O_RDONLY) rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [CHLD], NULL, 8) = 0 stat64("/root/.gnome2/vfs/modules", 0x838bddc) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE| O_DIRECTORY) = 12 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 fcntl64(12, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 getdents64(12, /* 9 entries */, 4096) = 352 getdents64(12, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 close(12) = 0 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/default-modules.conf", O_RDONLY| O_LARGEFILE) = 12 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=708, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d6f000 read(12, "#\n# Module configuration file fo"..., 4096) = 708 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 close(12) = 0 munmap(0xf6d6f000, 4096) = 0 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/ssl-modules.conf", O_RDONLY| O_LARGEFILE) = 12 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=12, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d6f000 read(12, "https: http\n", 4096) = 12 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 close(12) = 0 munmap(0xf6d6f000, 4096) = 0 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/mapping-modules.conf", O_RDONLY| O_LARGEFILE) = 12 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=151, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d6f000 read(12, "#\n# Module configuration file fo"..., 4096) = 151 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 close(12) = 0 munmap(0xf6d6f000, 4096) = 0 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/font-method.conf", O_RDONLY| O_LARGEFILE) = 12 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=20, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d6f000 read(12, "fonts: font-method\n\n", 4096) = 20 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 close(12) = 0 munmap(0xf6d6f000, 4096) = 0 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/theme-method.conf", O_RDONLY| O_LARGEFILE) = 12 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=25, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d6f000 read(12, "themes: libtheme-method\n\n", 4096) = 25 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 close(12) = 0 munmap(0xf6d6f000, 4096) = 0 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/smb-module.conf", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 12 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=153, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d6f000 read(12, "#\n# Module configuration file fo"..., 4096) = 153 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 close(12) = 0 munmap(0xf6d6f000, 4096) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_IGN}, 8) = 0 time(NULL) = 1095533406 mkdir("/root/.gnome2", 0700) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) mkdir("/root/.gnome2_private", 0700) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) chmod("/root/.gnome2_private/", 0700) = 0 mkdir("/root/.gnome2/accels", 0700) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 12 uname({sys="Linux", node="T7.linux", ...}) = 0 connect(12, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/.ICE-unix/4844"}, 21) = 0 fcntl64(12, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 write(12, "\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0", 8) = 8 read(12, "\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0", 8) = 8 access("/root/.ICEauthority", R_OK) = 0 open("/root/.ICEauthority", O_RDONLY) = 13 fstat64(13, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=163, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d6f000 read(13, "\0\3ICE\0\0\0\"local/T7.linux:/tmp/.IC"..., 4096) = 163 read(13, "", 4096) = 0 close(13) = 0 munmap(0xf6d6f000, 4096) = 0 write(12, "\0\2\1\0\4\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0MIT\0\0\0\3\0001.0"..., 40) = 40 read(12, "\0\0\4\0\16\0\0\0", 8) = 8 read(12, "\2\1\0\0\2\0\0\0", 8) = 8 read(12, "a\0None of the authentication pro"..., 104) = 104 close(12) = 0 write(2, "\n(gconf-editor:6004): GnomeUI-WA"..., 212 (gconf-editor:6004): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. ) = 212 access("/usr/share/gtkrc-2.0", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/share/gconf-editorrc", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) rt_sigaction(SIGSEGV, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGABRT, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGTRAP, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGFPE, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGBUS, {0x5048ec2, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x466528}, NULL, 8) = 0 stat64("/root/.gnome2/accels/gconf-editor", 0xfefd29a0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/tmp/gconfd-root", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 open("/tmp/gconfd-root/lock/ior", O_RDONLY) = 12 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0700, st_size=609, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d6f000 read(12, "5826:IOR:010000001600000049444c3"..., 4096) = 609 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 close(12) = 0 munmap(0xf6d6f000, 4096) = 0 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 12 fcntl64(12, F_SETFL, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 fcntl64(12, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 connect(12, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/orbit- root/linc-16c2-0-169790fd4265f"}, 44) = 0 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0T\0\0\0", 12}, {"`\'\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 \34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4pZ^"..., 84}], 2) = 96 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}], 2, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1(\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "`\'\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0"..., 40) = 40 gettimeofday({1095533406, 245098}, NULL) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="T7.linux", ...}) = 0 gettimeofday({1095533406, 250013}, NULL) = 0 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 13 setsockopt(13, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, [1], 4) = 0 bind(13, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/orbit- root/linc-1774-0-51d7e2a3d09d"}, 43) = 0 listen(13, 10) = 0 fcntl64(13, F_SETFL, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 fcntl64(13, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 getsockname(13, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/orbit- root/linc-1774-0-51d7e2a3d09d"}, [43]) = 0 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0|\1\0\0", 12}, {"`(\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34 \0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4pZ^\350"..., 380}], 2) = 392 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}], 3, -1) = 2 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1$\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "`(\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0"..., 36) = 36 accept(13, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=":"}, [2]) = 14 fcntl64(14, F_SETFL, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 fcntl64(14, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0d\0\0\0", 12}, {"\320(\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 \34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4p"..., 100}], 2) = 112 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1L\1\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "\320(\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1"..., 332) = 332 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\321\1\0\0", 12}, {"\220(\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0 \0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4p"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0 \0add_listener_with_properties"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1 \1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0\0\0\0"..., 385}], 4) = 477 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1(\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "\220(\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1"..., 40) = 40 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\222\0\0\0", 12}, {"P(\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 \34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4pZ^\350"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0 \0all_entries_with_schema_name"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1 \1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0\0\0\0"..., 66}], 4) = 158 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1\316\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "P(\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0"..., 206) = 206 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0`\0\0\0", 12}, {" (\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34 \0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4pZ^\350"..., 96}], 2) = 108 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1$\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, " (\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0"..., 36) = 36 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\311\1\0\0", 12}, {"@(\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 \34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4pZ^\350"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0 \0add_listener_with_properties"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1 \1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0\1\0\0"..., 377}], 4) = 469 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1(\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "@(\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0"..., 40) = 40 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\335\1\0\0", 12}, {"@(\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 \34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4pZ^\350"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0 \0add_listener_with_properties"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1 \1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0\1\0\0"..., 397}], 4) = 489 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1(\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "@(\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0"..., 40) = 40 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\233\0\0\0", 12}, {"\360\'\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0 \0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4"..., 155}], 2) = 167 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1a\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "\360\'\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1"..., 97) = 97 open("/usr/share/pixmaps/gconf-editor/stock-about-16.png", O_RDONLY| O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1474, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 1474, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 15, 0) = 0xf6d6f000 close(15) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/pixmaps/gconf-editor/folder-closed.png", O_RDONLY| O_LARGEFILE) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=368, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d6e000 read(15, "\211PNG\r\n\32\n\0\0\0\rIHDR\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\20\10\6\0\0"..., 4096) = 368 access("/etc/gtk-2.0/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf.loaders", F_OK) = 0 open("/etc/gtk-2.0/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf.loaders", O_RDONLY| O_LARGEFILE) = 16 fstat64(16, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2991, ...}) = 0 read(16, "# GdkPixbuf Image Loader Modules"..., 1024) = 1024 read(16, "rmat\"\n\"image/x-pcx\" \"\"\n\"pcx\" \"\"\n"..., 1024) = 1024 read(16, "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/l"..., 1024) = 943 read(16, "", 1024) = 0 close(16) = 0 access("/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so", F_OK) = 0 open("/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so", O_RDONLY) = 16 read(16, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240\23"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(16, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=14048, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 12872, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 16, 0) = 0x3ab000 old_mmap(0x3ae000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 16, 0x3000) = 0x3ae000 close(16) = 0 open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 16 fstat64(16, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=166706, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 166706, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 16, 0) = 0xf6d45000 close(16) = 0 open("/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 16 read(16, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0:\275"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(16, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=144044, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(0xbce000, 141476, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE| MAP_DENYWRITE, 16, 0) = 0x3e1000 old_mmap(0x403000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 16, 0x22000) = 0x403000 close(16) = 0 munmap(0xf6d45000, 166706) = 0 _llseek(15, 0, [0], SEEK_SET) = 0 read(15, "\211PNG\r\n\32\n\0\0\0\rIHDR\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\20\10\6\0\0"..., 4096) = 368 brk(0x83cc000) = 0x83cc000 brk(0x83c4000) = 0x83c4000 close(15) = 0 munmap(0xf6d6e000, 4096) = 0 lstat64("/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=29, ...}) = 0 open("/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 15 read(15, "\ngtk-theme-name = \"Bluecurve\"", 4000) = 29 read(15, "", 4000) = 0 close(15) = 0 access("/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.en_GB", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.en", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) lstat64("/root/.gtkrc-2.0", 0xfefd20e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtkrc-2.0.en_GB", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtkrc-2.0.en", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) lstat64("/root/.gnome2/gtkrc-2.0", 0xfefd20e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gnome2/gtkrc-2.0.en_GB", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gnome2/gtkrc-2.0.en", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) lstat64("/root/.gnome2/gconf-editorrc", 0xfefd20e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gnome2/gconf-editorrc.en_GB", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gnome2/gconf-editorrc.en", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.themes/Bluecurve-Strawberry/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve-Strawberry/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", F_OK) = 0 lstat64("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve-Strawberry/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2991, ...}) = 0 open("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve-Strawberry/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", O_RDONLY| O_LARGEFILE) = 15 read(15, "include \"/usr/share/themes/Bluec"..., 4000) = 2991 lstat64("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG| 0644, st_size=3712, ...}) = 0 open("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 16 read(16, "gtk-icon-sizes = \"panel-menu=24,"..., 4000) = 3712 access("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/iconrc", F_OK) = 0 lstat64("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/iconrc", {st_mode=S_IFREG| 0644, st_size=18425, ...}) = 0 open("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/iconrc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 17 read(17, "pixmap_path \"/usr/share/icons/Bl"..., 4000) = 4000 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/cdplayer-backward.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/cdplayer-eject.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/cdplayer-forward.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/cdplayer-next.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/cdplayer-pause.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/cdplayer-play.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/cdplayer-prev.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/cdplayer-record.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/cdplayer-stop.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-bookmark- page.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-bookmark- page.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/epiphany-bookmark- page.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-bookmarks.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-bookmarks.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/epiphany-bookmarks.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-download.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-download.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/epiphany-download.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-fullscreen.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-fullscreen.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/epiphany-fullscreen.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-history.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-history.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/epiphany-history.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-new-tab.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-new-tab.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/epiphany-new-tab.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-send-link.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/epiphany-send-link.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/epiphany-send-link.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-about.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gnome-stock-about.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-attach.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-connect.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock- disconnect.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-edit.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-export.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-import.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-insert- image.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-insert- object.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-insert- table.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-line-in.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock- lockscreen.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-mic.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-run.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock- searchtool.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gnome-stock-volume.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-add.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-add.png", F_OK) = 0 read(17, "apply.png\", *, *, * }}\n stock[\""..., 4000) = 4000 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/gtk-apply.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-bold.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-bold.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/gtk-cancel.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-cdrom.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-cdrom.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-clear.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-clear.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-close.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/gtk-close.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-convert.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-convert.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-copy.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-copy.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-cut.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-cut.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-delete.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-delete.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/gtk-dialog-error.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/gtk-dialog-info.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/gtk-dialog-question.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/gtk-dialog-warning.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/32x32/stock/gtk-dnd.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/32x32/stock/gtk-dnd-multiple.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-execute.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-execute.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-find.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-find.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-find-and- replace.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-find-and- replace.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-floppy.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-floppy.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-go-back.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-go-back.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-go-down.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-go-down.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-go-forward.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-go-forward.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-go-up.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-go-up.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-goto-bottom.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-goto-bottom.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-goto-first.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-goto-first.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-goto-last.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-goto-last.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-goto-top.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-goto-top.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-help.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-help.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-home.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-home.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-italic.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-italic.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-jump-to.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-jump-to.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-justify-center.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-justify-center.png", F_OK) = 0 read(17, "stify-fill\"] = {\n { \"24x24/st"..., 4000) = 4000 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-justify-fill.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-justify-fill.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-justify-left.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-justify-left.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-justify-right.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-justify-right.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-missing-image.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-missing-image.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-new.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-new.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/gtk-no.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/gtk-ok.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-open.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-open.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-paste.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-paste.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-preferences.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-preferences.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-print.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-print.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-print-preview.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-print-preview.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-properties.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-properties.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-quit.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-quit.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-redo.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-redo.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-refresh.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-refresh.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-remove.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-remove.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-revert-to-saved.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-revert-to-saved.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-save.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-save.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-save-as.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-save-as.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-select-color.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-select-color.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-sort-ascending.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-sort-ascending.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-sort-descending.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-sort-descending.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-spell-check.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-spell-check.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-stop.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-stop.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-strikethrough.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-strikethrough.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-undelete.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-undelete.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-underline.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-underline.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-undo.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-undo.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/gtk-yes.png", F_OK) = 0 read(17, ", *, *, * }}\n stock[\"gtk-zoom-1"..., 4000) = 4000 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-zoom-100.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-zoom-100.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-zoom-fit.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-zoom-fit.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-zoom-in.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-zoom-in.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/gtk-zoom-out.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/gtk-zoom-out.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/media-eject.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-eject.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-eject.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/media-eject.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/media-ffwd.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-ffwd.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-ffwd.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/media-ffwd.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/media-next.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-next.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-next.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/media-next.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/media-pause.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-pause.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-pause.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/media-pause.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/media-play.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-play.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-play.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/media-play.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/media-prev.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-prev.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-prev.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/media-prev.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/media-rec.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-rec.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-rec.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/media-rec.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/media-rewind.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-rewind.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-rewind.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/media-rewind.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/media-stop.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-stop.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/media-stop.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/media-stop.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-accessories.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-amusements.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/panel-drawer.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/32x32/stock/panel-drawer.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-drawer.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-internet.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-launcher.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/panel-lockscreen.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/panel-lockscreen.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/panel-lockscreen.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-lockscreen.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/panel-logout.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/panel-logout.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/panel-logout.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-logout.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-multimedia.png", F_OK) = 0 read(17, " \"48x48/stock/panel-run.png\", *,"..., 4000) = 2425 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/panel-run.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/32x32/stock/panel-run.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/panel-run.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/panel-run.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-run.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/panel-screenshot.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/panel-screenshot.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/panel-screenshot.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-screenshot.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/panel-searchtool.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/stock/panel-searchtool.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/20x20/stock/panel-searchtool.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-searchtool.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/16x16/stock/panel-utility.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-broken.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-broken.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-default.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-default.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-inkjet.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-inkjet.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-personal- laser.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-personal- laser.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-workgroup.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/64x64/stock/printer-workgroup.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-max.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-max.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-med.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-med.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-min.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-min.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-mute.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-mute.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-zero.png", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/stock/volume-zero.png", F_OK) = 0 read(17, "", 4000) = 0 close(17) = 0 access("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/iconrc.en_GB", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/iconrc.en", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtk-2.0/2.4.0/i386-redhat-linux- gnu/engines/libbluecurve.so", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtk-2.0/2.4.0/i386-redhat-linux- gnu/engines/libbluecurve.la", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libbluecurve.so", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libbluecurve.la", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtk-2.0/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/engines/libbluecurve.so", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtk-2.0/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/engines/libbluecurve.la", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtk-2.0/engines/libbluecurve.so", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/root/.gtk-2.0/engines/libbluecurve.la", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/i386-redhat-linux- gnu/engines/libbluecurve.so", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/i386-redhat-linux- gnu/engines/libbluecurve.la", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libbluecurve.so", F_OK) = 0 access("/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libbluecurve.so", F_OK) = 0 open("/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libbluecurve.so", O_RDONLY) = 17 read(17, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\200\32"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(17, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=48980, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 51876, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 17, 0) = 0x404000 old_mmap(0x410000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 17, 0xb000) = 0x410000 close(17) = 0 read(16, "", 4000) = 0 close(16) = 0 access("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.en_GB", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.en", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) read(15, "", 4000) = 0 close(15) = 0 access("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve-Strawberry/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.en_GB", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/share/themes/Bluecurve-Strawberry/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.en", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) brk(0x83e5000) = 0x83e5000 open("/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/libgnomeui-2.0.mo", O_RDONLY) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=23374, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 23374, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 15, 0) = 0xf6d69000 close(15) = 0 stat64("/usr/lib/GConf/2/libgconfbackend-xml.so", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=45812, ...}) = 0 access("/usr/lib/GConf/2/libgconfbackend-xml.so", F_OK) = 0 open("/usr/lib/GConf/2/libgconfbackend-xml.so", O_RDONLY) = 15 read(15, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0/\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=45812, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 48736, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 15, 0) = 0x411000 old_mmap(0x41c000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 15, 0xa000) = 0x41c000 close(15) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/GConf2.mo", O_RDONLY) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=56270, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 56270, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 15, 0) = 0xf6d5b000 close(15) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/.testing.writeability", O_WRONLY| O_CREAT, 0700) = 15 close(15) = 0 unlink("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/.testing.writeability") = 0 open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE| O_DIRECTORY) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 fcntl64(15, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 close(15) = 0 gettimeofday({1095533407, 185943}, NULL) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml", 0xfefd228c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE| O_DIRECTORY) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 fcntl64(15, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 getdents64(15, /* 7 entries */, 4096) = 200 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/system/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/schemas/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/desktop/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 getdents64(15, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 close(15) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/%gconf-tree.xml", 0xfefd228c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK| O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 fcntl64(15, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 getdents64(15, /* 62 entries */, 4096) = 2064 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/metacity/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/panel/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome_panel_screenshot/% gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=144, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/rhythmbox/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=243, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/devhelp/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/evolution/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=233, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/ggv/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/aisleriot/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=817, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gataxx/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=595, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnect/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1181, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnobots2/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnometris/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnotravex/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=313, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/iagno/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=809, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/same-gnome/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=310, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/blackjack/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=338, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/glines/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnibbles/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-stones/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnomine/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=151, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gtali/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=605, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/mahjongg/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=771, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/eog/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnumeric/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-settings/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/nautilus/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnomemeeting/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/epiphany/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/procman/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=2069, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-terminal/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-dictionary/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=526, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gfloppy/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=377, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-system-log/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=138, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gcalctool/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=973, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-search-tool/% gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=419, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/magicdev/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1065, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/file-roller/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gedit-2/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/stickynotes_applet/% gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/CDDB-Slave2/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=593, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-volume-control/% gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=374, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-cd/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=431, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-sound-recorder/% gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=2083, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gok/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=2109, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gthumb/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome_settings_daemon/% gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=151, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-session/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-print-manager/% gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=271, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/memprof/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=337, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnopernicus/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/nautilus-cd-burner/% gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=568, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gpdf/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/bug-buddy/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=625, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gimlet/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/netstatus_applet/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=146, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gswitchit/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=145, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gnome-db/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/conglomerate/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=162, ...}) = 0 getdents64(15, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 close(15) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf- tree.xml", 0xfefd235c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf.xml", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=145, ...}) = 0 read(15, "\n\n "..., 145) = 145 close(15) = 0 time(NULL) = 1095533407 mkdir("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults", 0755) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) mkdir("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps", 0755) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) mkdir("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf-editor", 0755) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf.xml.new", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 0644) = 15 fcntl64(15, F_GETFL) = 0x1 (flags O_WRONLY) fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d5a000 _llseek(15, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR) = 0 write(15, "\n\n "..., 145) = 145 close(15) = 0 munmap(0xf6d5a000, 4096) = 0 rename("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf.xml.new", "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf.xml") = 0 munmap(0x411000, 48736) = 0 stat64("/usr/lib/GConf/2/libgconfbackend-xml.so", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=45812, ...}) = 0 access("/usr/lib/GConf/2/libgconfbackend-xml.so", F_OK) = 0 open("/usr/lib/GConf/2/libgconfbackend-xml.so", O_RDONLY) = 15 read(15, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0/\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=45812, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 48736, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 15, 0) = 0x411000 old_mmap(0x41c000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED| MAP_DENYWRITE, 15, 0xa000) = 0x41c000 close(15) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/.testing.writeability", O_WRONLY| O_CREAT, 0700) = 15 close(15) = 0 unlink("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/.testing.writeability") = 0 open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE| O_DIRECTORY) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 fcntl64(15, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 close(15) = 0 gettimeofday({1095533407, 445591}, NULL) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/%gconf-tree.xml", 0xfefd228c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE| O_DIRECTORY) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 fcntl64(15, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 getdents64(15, /* 3 entries */, 4096) = 72 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 getdents64(15, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 close(15) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/%gconf-tree.xml", 0xfefd228c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK| O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 fcntl64(15, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 getdents64(15, /* 4 entries */, 4096) = 112 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=146, ...}) = 0 getdents64(15, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 close(15) = 0 stat64("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf- tree.xml", 0xfefd235c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf.xml", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 15 fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=146, ...}) = 0 read(15, "\n\n "..., 146) = 146 close(15) = 0 time(NULL) = 1095533407 mkdir("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory", 0755) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) mkdir("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps", 0755) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) mkdir("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf-editor", 0755) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) open("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf-editor/%gconf.xml.new", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 0644) = 15 fcntl64(15, F_GETFL) = 0x1 (flags O_WRONLY) fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xf6d5a000 _llseek(15, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR) = 0 write(15, "\n\n "..., 146) = 146 close(15) = 0 munmap(0xf6d5a000, 4096) = 0 rename("/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf-editor/% gconf.xml.new", "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf-editor/% gconf.xml") = 0 munmap(0x411000, 48736) = 0 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\331\1\0\0", 12}, {"\300$\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0 \0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4p"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0 \0add_listener_with_properties"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1 \1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0ame\0\35"..., 393}], 4) = 485 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1(\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "\300$\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1"..., 40) = 40 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\232\0\0\0", 12}, {"\200$\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0 \0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4p"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0 \0all_entries_with_schema_name"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1 \1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0ame\0\35"..., 74}], 4) = 166 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\0018\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "\200$\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1"..., 56) = 56 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\223\0\0\0", 12}, {"\260#\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0 \0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4p"..., 147}], 2) = 159 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\0013\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "\260#\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1"..., 51) = 51 writev(12, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\237\0\0\0", 12}, {"0$\375\376\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 \34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\276\4pZ^\350"..., 159}], 2) = 171 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN| POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 read(12, "GIOP\1\2\1\1d\0\0\0", 12) = 12 read(12, "0$\375\376\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0"..., 100) = 100 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ Nothing being hammed in from /usr/local anywhere - nothing really out of the ordinary. I've tried reinstalling gconf-editor via yum (having done rpm -e gconf- editor first), but get the same. Looks like there is something going on. I'm using... GConf - 1.0.9-15 GConf2 - 2.7.92-1 gconf-editor - 2.7.91-1 TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jim-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 19 04:58:01 2004 From: jim-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:58:01 -0400 Subject: radeon on another computer -fifo errors encountered Message-ID: <1095569881.4196.10.camel@jcsevern> I was testing the latest xorg-x11 version on my laptop to ensure that there were no incorporated changes that would effect my computer when FC3 becomes a reality. I found that after awhile running, I'd get fifo errors and would have to either reset the computer or if lucky, just have to reboot or wait long enough for it to exit. Anyway, attached to the xorg-x11 bug submitted for the radeon 7200 card is the results encountered with this later version radeon card. lspci shows this card as below. lspci -vvv results are attached to the bug report. 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1 This bug seemed to be triggered when using mozilla mail. Therefore, I'm using evolution to respond. Jim https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1384 From mt at mp3dev.org Sun Sep 19 05:40:58 2004 From: mt at mp3dev.org (Mark Taylor) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:40:58 -0600 Subject: Does udev make system unbootable? Message-ID: <1095572457.7762.82.camel@dosadi> Am Freitag, den 17.09.2004, 22:19 -0700 schrieb Chris Ha: > I think I got udev package onto my fc3 t1 box by > updating all the packages from yesterday(09/17/04)'s > development tree. After that, it manages my system > unbootable as below. > > At boot message : > warning : unable to open an initial console > (just 2 more lines about SElinux - I don't recall) > > after these messages, booting process hangs there. > > If someone knows about how to fix, could you please > help me out? > > I have checked /dev directory using Knoppix, and seems > like many of device files are not there. I'd like to > know how to fix, specially with Knoppix if possible, > of course other ways of fixing are welcomed. > > Thanks, > atie > I had the exact same problem with 2.6.8-1.541: ran uptodate on 9/18/04, and my system would no longer boot, with a "unable to open an initial console" error message. I was able to recover by booting knoppix, chroot to my FC3 instalation, and then running Mike Klinke's suggestion: mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img 2.6.8-1.541 I had to use knoppix, because if I try to boot from the FC3-test1 disk in rescue mode, it detects an error after asking about the keyboard and then shutsdown before I can get a prompt. Mark From notting at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 14:16:06 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:16:06 -0400 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2 Message-ID: <20040920141606.GA30766@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Coming soon to a site near you... for the first time, it's the new, digitally remastered, Fedora Core 3 Test 2! Now, you can take home this never before seen four-disc set, chock full of new software and exciting bonus features! Includes hundreds of new and updated packages over the original edition, including: - a minor change to the device model, switching from a static /dev to a dynamic /dev provided by udev - SELinux enablement - the GNOME 2.8 release candidate - KDE 3.3.0 - X.org X11 6.8.0 Please report problems at: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla File bugs against product 'Fedora Core', release 'fc3test2'. For more information on just waht the Fedora Project and Fedora Core is, please see: http://fedora.redhat.com/ Fedora Core 3 Test 2 is available at the following sites: * North America: * USA East: * ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.dc.aleron.net/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.dc.aleron.net/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://ftp.dc.aleron.net::fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * ftp://redhat.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/fedora/core/test/2.91 * http://redhat.secsup.org/fedora/core/test/2.91 * ftp://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://rsync.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91 * ftp://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://mirror.hiwaay.net/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91/ * USA West: * http://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * Canada: * ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://gulus.USherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * South America: * Portugal: * http://tux.cprm.net/pub/ftp.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://tux.cprm.net/pub/ftp.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * Europe: * Austria: * ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * Czech Republic: * ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp6.linux.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ (IPv6) * ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/test/2.91/ * http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/test/2.91/ * rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora/fedora/test/2.91/ * ftp://ultra.linux.cz/pub/fedora/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp1.skynet.cz/pub/linux/fedora/test/2.91 * Denmark: * ftp://klid.dk/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * Finland: * http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ - i386 only * ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ - i386 only * http://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ - i386 only * ftp://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ - i386 only * France: * ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * Germany: * ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91 * http://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * http://download.atrpms.net/mirrors/fedoracore/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.stw-bonn.de/pub/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.stw-bonn.de/pub/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://rsync.uni-bayreuth.de/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * Ireland: * http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * Netherlands: * ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.quicknet.nl/pub/Linux/download.fedora.redhat.com/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.eu.uu.net/pub/linux/fedora/test/2.91/ * Poland: * ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.wsisiz.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * Romania: * http://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * United Kingdom: * http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91/ * Asia/Pacific: * Australia: * http://planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://rsync.planetmirror.com/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * Japan: * ftp://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.riken.jp/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Linux/packages/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Linux/packages/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.kddilabs.jp/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * Taiwan: * http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 More mirrors will come online in the near future; check: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html for a list of mirrors that carry Fedora Core. One additional feature provided by the Linux community is the availability of Fedora Core releases via BitTorrent. http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC3-test2-binary-i386.torrent http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC3-test2-binary-x86_64.torrent See http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/ for other forms, including SRPMS and the DVD iso. RPMS for BitTorrent are available from: http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/btrpms/ Usage is simple: btdownloadcurses.py --url http://URL.torrent Allow incoming TCP 6881 - 6889 to join the torrent swarm. From notting at redhat.com Mon Sep 20 14:16:06 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:16:06 -0400 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2 Message-ID: <20040920141606.GA30766@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Coming soon to a site near you... for the first time, it's the new, digitally remastered, Fedora Core 3 Test 2! Now, you can take home this never before seen four-disc set, chock full of new software and exciting bonus features! Includes hundreds of new and updated packages over the original edition, including: - a minor change to the device model, switching from a static /dev to a dynamic /dev provided by udev - SELinux enablement - the GNOME 2.8 release candidate - KDE 3.3.0 - X.org X11 6.8.0 Please report problems at: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla File bugs against product 'Fedora Core', release 'fc3test2'. For more information on just waht the Fedora Project and Fedora Core is, please see: http://fedora.redhat.com/ Fedora Core 3 Test 2 is available at the following sites: * North America: * USA East: * ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.dc.aleron.net/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.dc.aleron.net/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://ftp.dc.aleron.net::fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * ftp://redhat.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/fedora/core/test/2.91 * http://redhat.secsup.org/fedora/core/test/2.91 * ftp://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://rsync.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91 * ftp://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://mirror.hiwaay.net/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91/ * USA West: * http://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * Canada: * ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://gulus.USherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * South America: * Portugal: * http://tux.cprm.net/pub/ftp.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://tux.cprm.net/pub/ftp.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * Europe: * Austria: * ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * Czech Republic: * ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp6.linux.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ (IPv6) * ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/test/2.91/ * http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/test/2.91/ * rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora/fedora/test/2.91/ * ftp://ultra.linux.cz/pub/fedora/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp1.skynet.cz/pub/linux/fedora/test/2.91 * Denmark: * ftp://klid.dk/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * Finland: * http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ - i386 only * ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ - i386 only * http://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ - i386 only * ftp://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ - i386 only * France: * ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * Germany: * ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91 * http://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * http://download.atrpms.net/mirrors/fedoracore/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.stw-bonn.de/pub/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.stw-bonn.de/pub/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://rsync.uni-bayreuth.de/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * Ireland: * http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * Netherlands: * ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.quicknet.nl/pub/Linux/download.fedora.redhat.com/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.eu.uu.net/pub/linux/fedora/test/2.91/ * Poland: * ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.wsisiz.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * Romania: * http://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * United Kingdom: * http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91/ * Asia/Pacific: * Australia: * http://planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://rsync.planetmirror.com/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * Japan: * ftp://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.riken.jp/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Linux/packages/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Linux/packages/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.kddilabs.jp/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * Taiwan: * http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 More mirrors will come online in the near future; check: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html for a list of mirrors that carry Fedora Core. One additional feature provided by the Linux community is the availability of Fedora Core releases via BitTorrent. http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC3-test2-binary-i386.torrent http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC3-test2-binary-x86_64.torrent See http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/ for other forms, including SRPMS and the DVD iso. RPMS for BitTorrent are available from: http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/btrpms/ Usage is simple: btdownloadcurses.py --url http://URL.torrent Allow incoming TCP 6881 - 6889 to join the torrent swarm. -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list From maxer1 at xmission.com Tue Sep 21 01:07:57 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (maxer1) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:07:57 -0600 Subject: udev FC3T1 and firewire Message-ID: <414F7EED.1060200@xmission.com> ok, so what's happened with udev? My fstab entries that were there for /media/firewire etc are missing in FC3t1 last dev update September 16th. I really need to get my external cdrom firewire drive detected to burn the new FC3T2 iso's to. Any ideas. I can't mount this firewire device. Thanks, RaXeT From carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au Tue Sep 21 01:09:13 2004 From: carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au (Carl Gherardi) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:09:13 +0800 Subject: Wireless configuration (bugs?) Message-ID: <1095728953.9129.24.camel@coeus> Hey all, This may not be the right forum for this, but others on the list will probably be able to suggest alternate configurations. I'm playing with wireless on my laptop for the first time and wonder if the following is expected behavior. My standard wired connection is a Xircom pcmcia adaptor, which I use most of the time, and have a static ips on the various networks I attend for it, using commented out sections in the relevant config files for quick changes. I was given a linksys wpc55ag adaptor to mess with, and discovered I needed the madwifi module as it uses the atheros chipset. So far so good. While trying to figure out how to connect to the base station I decided to reboot and find out what kudzu thought I should do. Kudzu detected the card on startup, and gave me configuration options exactly like a normal network adapter - seemed ok too. I decided to set it to use dhcp, and see how that went. Problem - dhclient decided to nuke: a) /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (argh I had two network setups in there... home and work) even though the card was being identified as ath0. This seems wrong. b) /etc/resolv.conf - this is more expected, but I had though dhclient would leave commented lines alone. After all that a question - is it possible to have two nics, one using dhcp and the other static that does not destroy configs. Thanks Carl Gherardi Apologies for the following. -- -- This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NAUTRONIX LTD. If you are not the intended recipient, you have received this email in error and use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender. Although our computer systems use active virus protection software, and we take various measures to reduce the risk of viruses being transmitted in e-mail messages and attachments sent from this company, we cannot guarantee that such e-mail messages and attachments are free from viruses on receipt. It is a condition of our using e-mail to correspond with you, that any and all liability on our part arising directly or indirectly out of any virus is excluded. Please ensure that you run virus checking software on all e-mail messages and attachments before reading them. From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Sep 21 01:34:15 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:34:15 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 Printer Setup Problems Message-ID: <414F8517.1060005@earthlink.net> I have two printers attached to a network printer server. They work fine in FC1, FC2, FC3T1. I set them up the same in FC3T2. They appear to set up fine, but a test page never prints. When I open Print Manager, they are not there; Print Manager says there are no printers defined and ases if it should open Printer configuration. When I do, they are listed there, but not in Print Manager. The other systems which work have selinux disabled. I am using the default selinux setting in FC3T2. Is this a bug, or is there something I don't know about that needs setting? Thanks. Gerry Tool From cekvenich.vic at portalvu.com Tue Sep 21 01:43:11 2004 From: cekvenich.vic at portalvu.com (Vic Cekvenich) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:43:11 -0500 Subject: Sata, USB problems on FC3-64 Message-ID: <414F872F.8010002@portalvu.com> I have a 64 bit MSI K8N mb. FC3 does not recognize my Sata HD (asks for a driver?) and does not see USB keyboard or mouse. FC1 sees a PS2 mouse on same but not Sata. FC2 sees Sata (and is the only one I can install), but not any mouse even when I mess w/ config. (and... none seem to see the ethernet, even with NVida's ethernet driver). Any suggestions how to get out of this.... great. I tried other forums (NVidia hasa nice forum, and so does fedoraforums.org). thx, .V -- Please post on Rich Internet Applications User Interface (RiA/SoA) From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue Sep 21 02:00:50 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:00:50 +0200 Subject: Wireless configuration (bugs?) In-Reply-To: <1095728953.9129.24.camel@coeus> References: <1095728953.9129.24.camel@coeus> Message-ID: <1095732050.2951.27.camel@littlePiet> Hey, Am Di, den 21.09.2004 schrieb Carl Gherardi um 3:09: > I'm playing with wireless on my laptop for the first time and wonder if > the following is expected behavior. Maybe not expected, but unfortunately usual for now :-) Kudzu will not properly configure atheros based cards. > Problem - dhclient decided to nuke: > a) /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (argh I had two network > setups in there... home and work) even though the card was being > identified as ath0. This seems wrong. > b) /etc/resolv.conf - this is more expected, but I had though dhclient > would leave commented lines alone. > > After all that a question - is it possible to have two nics, one using > dhcp and the other static that does not destroy configs. Of course it is possible to have more than one nic. At first you should use system-config-network to (re-)configure your Xircom Card in a proper way (as eth0). Test it. Then you shoult: add in modprobe.conf alias ath0 ath_pci if it isn't already there. Then you should create in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts a file ifcfg-atho with the following content: >-----------------------------------------< # Unknown vendor|Generic ath_pci device DEVICE=ath0 TYPE=Wireless ONBOOT=no BOOTPROTO=dhcp USERCTL=yes PEERDNS=yes MODE=Auto RATE=Auto CHANNEL=1 ESSID={yourEssId} DOMAIN= NETMASK= HWADDR= IPADDR= GATEWAY= DHCP_HOSTNAME={yourHostname} IPV6INIT=no >-----------------------------------------< you should copy this file into /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices and /etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles/default as well. If kudzu asks during the next system boot for new hardware, you should tell it to ignore the event (i.e. to do no (auto-)configuration and not to ask at next boot time again. If you start system-config-netword you will find your wireless as an option. Peter From walters at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 02:16:45 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:16:45 -0400 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <1095714761.2867.66.camel@agnes> References: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> <1095714761.2867.66.camel@agnes> Message-ID: <1095733005.4431.178.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 23:12 +0200, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > The other day I had a discussion with the sysadmin of > another department and our common position was: 1) The state of > the art in kernel building (ie use of modules and cpu detection by > the installer) allows vendors to ship kernels whose > performance is close enough to a custom built one the user should > not need to bother with recompiling. 2) If the kernel you get out > of the box is an underperformer then it is a _bug_. Er, a large part of the LWN audience is kernel and other low-level systems developers. This may seem surprising, but kernel developers tend to compile their own kernels, and then install them. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Sep 21 02:18:54 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:18:54 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 vs rawhide install Message-ID: <1095733135.27897.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> I just did a rawhide install as of last week, I think just prior to the weekend. Is there any need to download/install T2 instead? Can I just download whatever package (fedora-release?) to show it's the T2 and be OK? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 21 03:06:55 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:06:55 -0400 Subject: radeon on another computer -fifo errors encountered In-Reply-To: <1095569881.4196.10.camel@jcsevern> References: <1095569881.4196.10.camel@jcsevern> Message-ID: <414F9ACF.8050505@sbcglobal.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > I was testing the latest xorg-x11 version on my laptop to ensure that > there were no incorporated changes that would effect my computer when > FC3 becomes a reality. I found that after awhile running, I'd get fifo > errors and would have to either reset the computer or if lucky, just > have to reboot or wait long enough for it to exit. > > Anyway, attached to the xorg-x11 bug submitted for the radeon 7200 card > is the results encountered with this later version radeon card. > lspci shows this card as below. lspci -vvv results are attached to the > bug report. > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility > U1 > > This bug seemed to be triggered when using mozilla mail. Therefore, I'm > using evolution to respond. > > Jim > > https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1384 > > Just as a further observation regarding this Evolution sent message from another account of mine, I have found that setting the color depth to 24 thus disabling DRI on this version radeon will eventually cause lockups and/or refresh problems. Setting the depth down to 16 works most of the time. I did however have a problem with the system locking up during logging out of X. This needed a hard reset to escape, followed by a filesystem check and 1 inode correction needed for the disk. At least the message cleared the moderator. (first attempt and using Evolution). Regarding evolution, I haven't looked into configuring Evolution as a multi-threaded mailer yet. Without this feature enabled, great care needs to be taken to ensure the right mail account is used for sending the message out. I'd rather have multiple folders for each account and be able to originate a message and have it sent out from the account that has current focus. This is more visual and less with having to select the sending account from secondary, tertiary .... accounts. Also, with this approach, reading mail from specific accounts is much easier. Having a pool of mail from different accounts into one inbox leads to a lot of confusion in my view. Jim -- You are scrupulously honest, frank, and straightforward. Therefore you have few friends. From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 04:58:17 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:58:17 -0500 Subject: FC2T3 Installation report Message-ID: <883cfe6d0409202158274ac0a1@mail.gmail.com> Installing FC2T3 on my Centrino laptop, using the DVD ISO downloaded via Bittorrent, workstation install, SELinux set to targeted, root on XFS Install observations: everything fine, though firstboot does not configure the mixer; everything is muted (was not the case in T1 AFAIR) Usage observation: - default mail client set to evolution-1.6, which does not exist; perhaps this could be set to either evolution or evolution-2.0 - I get some SELinux errors during boot; is this to be expected? audit(1095738402.273:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=536 exe=/sbin/restorecon name=initctl dev=tmpfs ino=2464 scontext=system_u:object_r:initctl_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:tmpfs_t tclass=filesystem audit(1095738403.297:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=755 exe=/usr/sbin/setfiles name=initctl dev=tmpfs ino=2464 scontext=system_u:object_r:initctl_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:tmpfs_t tclass=filesystem audit(1095738403.312:0): avc: denied { associate } for pid=755 exe=/usr/sbin/setfiles name=.udev.tdb dev=tmpfs ino=967 scontext=system_u:object_r:udev_tbl_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:tmpfs_t tclass=filesystem Otherwise, swell. A package I'm packaging that works fine in Fedora Core 2 does not recompile cleanly, but I'm holding off reporting it until I figure out what's going on. Keeping Bittorrent running on the AMD64 box, but I should post an install report on that machine in 2 days' time :) Thanks for such a great job! -- Michel Salim ??? http://salimma.livejournal.com From notting at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 05:35:28 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 01:35:28 -0400 Subject: Nice, but a problem In-Reply-To: <1095726834.4652.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095726834.4652.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040921053528.GE5769@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Paul (paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk) said: > Only one problem : system-config-soundcard won't work. All I get is... Will be fixed in tomorrow's tree. Bill From carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au Tue Sep 21 05:41:06 2004 From: carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au (Carl Gherardi) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:41:06 +0800 Subject: Wireless configuration (bugs?) In-Reply-To: <1095732050.2951.27.camel@littlePiet> References: <1095728953.9129.24.camel@coeus> <1095732050.2951.27.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1095745266.9129.39.camel@coeus> Comments very much appreciated, and should sort my problem. On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 04:00 +0200, Peter wrote: > Am Di, den 21.09.2004 schrieb Carl Gherardi um 3:09: > > Problem - dhclient decided to nuke: > > a) /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (argh I had two network > > setups in there... home and work) even though the card was being > > identified as ath0. This seems wrong. > > b) /etc/resolv.conf - this is more expected, but I had though dhclient > > would leave commented lines alone. > > > > After all that a question - is it possible to have two nics, one using > > dhcp and the other static that does not destroy configs. > > Of course it is possible to have more than one nic. :) Should have mentioned that the two nics cant be in my laptop at the same time, they physically dont fit. You mentioned kudzu doesn't support aetheros cards, so this explains it anyway. > At first you should > use system-config-network to (re-)configure your Xircom Card in a proper > way (as eth0). Test it. A proper way? Do you mean using profiles? I haven't used it in the past as I usually do a minimal install and add packages using apt or yum, and that package isn't part of it. Cheers Carl Gherardi Apologies... -- -- This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 06:43:31 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 01:43:31 -0500 Subject: Problem burning FC3T2 x86_64 DVD ISO Message-ID: <883cfe6d04092023432b80759c@mail.gmail.com> I am having a problem burning the DVD ISO for x86_64 on an FC2 x86_64 machine.. cdrecord complained that data may not fit on a current disk, which I overrode by specifying -ignsize. For some reason, it then thinks that I am writing a CD instead of a DVD, and then failed with the following: Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 13.0 in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. trackno=0 Turning BURN-Free off cdrecord: Success. reserve track: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 53 00 00 00 00 00 24 6D E2 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 200s cdrecord: Cannot open new session. This is on both a DVD-R and DVD+RW.. the former unbranded, the latter came from the manufacturer (Lite-on). Note it was trying to burn at 13 speed, that's higher than the max write speed of the drive when using DVD+R media (with DVD-R it's 8x, and my blank media was 4x capable) Has anyone managed to write the x86_64 ISO successfully, and with which version of which tool? I managed to burn the i386 DVD ISO just fine, FWIW. Thanks in advance, -- Michel Salim ??? http://salimma.livejournal.com From markmc at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 06:55:09 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 07:55:09 +0100 Subject: gconf-editor SIGSEVS In-Reply-To: <1095533971.5037.11.camel@T7.linux> References: <1095533971.5037.11.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1095749708.2495.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 19:59, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Running gconf-editor, I'm getting the following as a standard user > > Failed to write "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf-editor/% > gconf.xml": Failed to open "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/gconf- > editor/%gconf.xml.new": Permission denied > > Failed to write "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf-editor/% > gconf.xml": Failed to open "/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory/apps/gconf- > editor/%gconf.xml.new": Permission denied > > Segmentation fault Install the debuginfo RPM for gconf-editor and log a bug with the stack trace from the bug-buddy window that should appear when it crashes. Cheers, Mark. From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 07:13:05 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 02:13:05 -0500 Subject: Update: Oversized DVD problem (Re: Problem burning FC3T2 x86_64 DVD ISO) In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d04092023432b80759c@mail.gmail.com> References: <883cfe6d04092023432b80759c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <883cfe6d0409210013f03c469@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 01:43:31 -0500, Michel Salim wrote: > I am having a problem burning the DVD ISO for x86_64 on an FC2 x86_64 > machine.. cdrecord complained that data may not fit on a current disk, > which I overrode by specifying -ignsize. For some reason, it then > thinks that I am writing a CD instead of a DVD, and then failed with > the following: > > Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 13.0 in real SAO mode for single session. > Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. > trackno=0 > Turning BURN-Free off > cdrecord: Success. reserve track: scsi sendcmd: no error > CDB: 53 00 00 00 00 00 24 6D E2 00 > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 > Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) > cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 200s > cdrecord: Cannot open new session. > I found some suggestions on a Debian mailing list that I should be using SCSI emulation for the DVD writer, but it did not change things. On a custom-compiled 2.6.9-rc1 kernel with SCSI emulation, I get exactly the same error.. on all kernels, the i386 DVD ISO dummy-writes just fine, with or without -overburn and with both IDE and IDE-SCSI methods. So.. anyone managed to burn it without having to use a dual-layer drive? I would burn it in Windows, but without either NTFS support I'd have to first break the file into 2 < 4GB chunks, copy them to a VFAT partition, then join them into a new file on an NTFS partition. Loads of fun :) -- Michel Salim ??? http://salimma.livejournal.com From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Sep 21 08:12:43 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:12:43 +0100 Subject: Drive icons (FC3t2 fresh install) Message-ID: <1095754363.7732.8.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, My system has multiple drives attached (dev/hda -> dev/hdh). I currently have /dev/hdb1 as /home, /dev/hdb2 as /MP3, dev/hdg1 as /Programming, dev/hdg2 as /web and dev/hdh1 as /backup. These are entered in fstab and all work quite merrily. I have found something annoying though. On my desktop, I have icons for all of these directories - they shouldn't be there and neither should an icon for /media/idedisk1 (/dev/ hda1). What do I change in fstab so they don't appear? While a link to the MP3 directory is okay, I certainly don't want other users being able to access the other mounts. For the production version, I would seriously consider not having them being visible. Also, why is my zip drive (/dev/hde) designated /media/floppy and my floppy (/dev/fd0) designated /media/floppy1? TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From pastorpalme at gmx.de Tue Sep 21 08:14:09 2004 From: pastorpalme at gmx.de (A. Sopicki) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:14:09 +0200 Subject: FC3 test2 test report Message-ID: <200409211014.12853.pastorpalme@gmx.de> - From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 08:34:20 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:34:20 -0500 Subject: Update: Oversized DVD problem (Re: Problem burning FC3T2 x86_64 DVD ISO) In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0409210013f03c469@mail.gmail.com> References: <883cfe6d04092023432b80759c@mail.gmail.com> <883cfe6d0409210013f03c469@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <883cfe6d0409210134166d9ba7@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 02:13:05 -0500, Michel Salim wrote: > So.. anyone managed to burn it without having to use a dual-layer > drive? I would burn it in Windows, but without either NTFS support I'd > have to first break the file into 2 < 4GB chunks, copy them to a VFAT > partition, then join them into a new file on an NTFS partition. Loads > of fun :) Answering myself, growisofs works for burning oversized DVDs (very unintuitive name), but in this case it failed. Guess I have to download the CD ISOs instead. -- Michel Salim ??? http://salimma.livejournal.com From david at fubar.dk Tue Sep 21 08:52:15 2004 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:52:15 +0200 Subject: Drive icons (FC3t2 fresh install) In-Reply-To: <1095754363.7732.8.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1095754363.7732.8.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1095756736.20471.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 09:12 +0100, PFJ wrote: > Hi, > > My system has multiple drives attached (dev/hda -> dev/hdh). I currently > have /dev/hdb1 as /home, /dev/hdb2 as /MP3, dev/hdg1 as /Programming, > dev/hdg2 as /web and dev/hdh1 as /backup. These are entered in fstab and > all work quite merrily. > > I have found something annoying though. > What're you're seeing now is just stock GNOME VFS. > On my desktop, I have icons for all of these directories - they > shouldn't be there and neither should an icon for /media/idedisk1 (/dev/ > hda1). > > What do I change in fstab so they don't appear? While a link to the MP3 > directory is okay, I certainly don't want other users being able to > access the other mounts. For the production version, I would seriously > consider not having them being visible. > This will be addressed in Rawhide shortly with GNOME VFS using a patch to query hal what the drives/volumes are capable of (e.g. their volume label, make, size, whether they're hotpluggable, whether they use removable media etc etc). Here's an early screenshot of what it might look like http://freedesktop.org/~david/blank-cdrw.png > Also, why is my zip drive (/dev/hde) designated /media/floppy and my > floppy (/dev/fd0) designated /media/floppy1? > Well, an IDE zip drive looks to the kernel like a floppy IDE drive, that's why. AFAIK there is no reliable way (e.g. no heuristics on model/vendor strings please) to tell an IDE zip drive from e.g. an IDE LS120 drive. If there is please tell us at hal at freedesktop.org and we can fixup things so you can get a nicer mount point. David From pmatilai at welho.com Tue Sep 21 09:17:54 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:17:54 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Drive icons (FC3t2 fresh install) In-Reply-To: <1095756736.20471.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095754363.7732.8.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095756736.20471.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 09:12 +0100, PFJ wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My system has multiple drives attached (dev/hda -> dev/hdh). I currently > > have /dev/hdb1 as /home, /dev/hdb2 as /MP3, dev/hdg1 as /Programming, > > dev/hdg2 as /web and dev/hdh1 as /backup. These are entered in fstab and > > all work quite merrily. > > > > I have found something annoying though. > > > > What're you're seeing now is just stock GNOME VFS. On a similar note: on my testbox a windows partition (vfat) on the system (/dev/hdaX) appears on the desktop as an icon with a name "idedisk" which doesn't mean anything at all to somebody who doesn't know what "IDE" means. And in any case I don't really see all the partitions on the system on my *desktop* - inside the "Computer" window, why not. > > On my desktop, I have icons for all of these directories - they > > shouldn't be there and neither should an icon for /media/idedisk1 (/dev/ > > hda1). > > > > What do I change in fstab so they don't appear? While a link to the MP3 > > directory is okay, I certainly don't want other users being able to > > access the other mounts. For the production version, I would seriously > > consider not having them being visible. > > > > This will be addressed in Rawhide shortly with GNOME VFS using a patch > to query hal what the drives/volumes are capable of (e.g. their volume > label, make, size, whether they're hotpluggable, whether they use > removable media etc etc). Here's an early screenshot of what it might > look like Ok if nonremovable media stops from appearing on the desktop then I've no further complaints wrt this. - Panu - From david at fubar.dk Tue Sep 21 09:38:01 2004 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:38:01 +0200 Subject: Drive icons (FC3t2 fresh install) In-Reply-To: References: <1095754363.7732.8.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095756736.20471.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1095759482.20471.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 12:17 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, David Zeuthen wrote: > > > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 09:12 +0100, PFJ wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > My system has multiple drives attached (dev/hda -> dev/hdh). I currently > > > have /dev/hdb1 as /home, /dev/hdb2 as /MP3, dev/hdg1 as /Programming, > > > dev/hdg2 as /web and dev/hdh1 as /backup. These are entered in fstab and > > > all work quite merrily. > > > > > > I have found something annoying though. > > > > > > > What're you're seeing now is just stock GNOME VFS. > > On a similar note: on my testbox a windows partition (vfat) on the system > (/dev/hdaX) appears on the desktop as an icon with a name "idedisk" which > doesn't mean anything at all to somebody who doesn't know what "IDE" > means. And in any case I don't really see all the partitions on the system > on my *desktop* - inside the "Computer" window, why not. Of course we shouldn't be using technical jargon like IDE or USB on the desktop (though we may hint something in the icon). This will also be fixed with the GNOME VFS hal patch. Today GNOME VFS simply uses the last element of the mount point, so blame fstab-sync (which is shipped with hal) for the idedisk name :-). On a related note it is also planned for fstab-sync to use a little more intelligent mount point names (even FHS2.3 compliant where applicable), e.g. perhaps the volume label [1] or the UUID so we can get stable mount point names (which is nice if e.g. you're using Rhythmbox or XMMS or something). In fact, it is my view that the UI shouldn't even display technical stuff like mount points etc. > > > On my desktop, I have icons for all of these directories - they > > > shouldn't be there and neither should an icon for /media/idedisk1 (/dev/ > > > hda1). > > > > > > What do I change in fstab so they don't appear? While a link to the MP3 > > > directory is okay, I certainly don't want other users being able to > > > access the other mounts. For the production version, I would seriously > > > consider not having them being visible. > > > > > > > This will be addressed in Rawhide shortly with GNOME VFS using a patch > > to query hal what the drives/volumes are capable of (e.g. their volume > > label, make, size, whether they're hotpluggable, whether they use > > removable media etc etc). Here's an early screenshot of what it might > > look like > > Ok if nonremovable media stops from appearing on the desktop then I've no > further complaints wrt this. > Only hotpluggable drives and removable media will be displayed on the desktop. Thanks, David [1] : but what about UTF-8 - will we break buggy programs that can't cope with UTF-8 in the /etc/fstab file or in a path? Are there any such programs in the distro? Does anyone know? From pastorpalme at gmx.de Tue Sep 21 09:42:52 2004 From: pastorpalme at gmx.de (A. Sopicki) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:42:52 +0200 Subject: FC3 test2 test report In-Reply-To: <200409211014.12853.pastorpalme@gmx.de> References: <200409211014.12853.pastorpalme@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200409211142.52665.pastorpalme@gmx.de> After burning the DVD and a reboot installation worked just fine. No problem. Testing the system I noticed that there was no sound. Solved it with kmix. Just had to deactivate the digital output and turn up the volumes. So no real problem. Soundcard worked just fine. Tried to install some extra packages with system-config-packages from DVD cause I didn't select the Gnome desktop. Installation programm couldn't find the location of my DVD. Solved it by using the --tree parameter. Bug or known issue? Anything else is just working as usual without any problem yet. Good work! No problem with SELinux either. Waiting for the final. :) Alex P.S.: Sorry, but this message got messed up somehow From mcwimpy at gmx.at Tue Sep 21 10:21:10 2004 From: mcwimpy at gmx.at (Markus Nicolussi) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:21:10 +0200 (MEST) Subject: FC3T2 -feature list References: <604aa79104092008343f060e26@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <23593.1095762070@www20.gmx.net> > > Release Notes exist. I'm not sure how detailed you expect a feature list > to be. > Hell, a 'feature list' of xorg packages alone would take a whole book. > > -jef > Yeah Release Notes would be a fine. But after searching 1 hour on the fedora website i gave it up to search for it. So the question is: If RelNotes exist, where are they? caio, nico. -- GMX ProMail mit bestem Virenschutz http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail +++ Empfehlung der Redaktion +++ Internet Professionell 10/04 +++ From Fred.New at microlink.ee Tue Sep 21 10:30:19 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:30:19 +0300 Subject: FC3T2 -feature list Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615F93@eemail1.microlink.lan> On Tuesday, September 21, 2004, Markus Nicolussi wrote > Yeah Release Notes would be a fine. But after searching 1 > hour on the fedora website i gave it up to search for it. > So the question is: If RelNotes exist, where are they? You can usually find the release notes on any mirror site. For example, http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/i386/os/RELEASE -NOTES-en.html Happy reading. Fred From mcwimpy at gmx.at Tue Sep 21 10:32:08 2004 From: mcwimpy at gmx.at (Markus Nicolussi) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:32:08 +0200 (MEST) Subject: FC3T2 -feature list References: <414F6BE6.6030703@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <6133.1095762728@www20.gmx.net> Thank u very much, ill try to find something in bugzilla which concernes my hardware: SATA RAID Controller from Silicon Image. ciao, nico. > Related to X, the 815 Graphics controller and the radeon 7200 Graphics > controller are less than ideal. > > Nifty new features for me. I like the desktop icons for drives > connected, but not mounted on your system. This allows for simpler disc > access and you do not have to add the drives to your fstab file and > designate mount points. > > The speed over FC2 is noticable to me, referencing a very recent > upgraded system from FC2. > > Searching bugzilla for other submitted problems might give you a general > idea regarding the hardware that you plan to use for the test > installation. > > Refresh problems related to X when not using DRI is my major > distraction. The other noticed problem is when trying to boot an earlier > version when having an FC3T2 volume mounted in the older installation > will drop you to the maint. shell. This problem relates to even as > recent as FC3T1, the utilities for filechecking are too new for your > earlier system to filesystem check. > > This reference is from FC3T2 release candidate 2. I am still DLing the > actual FC3T2 discs via ftp. > > Jim > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- GMX ProMail mit bestem Virenschutz http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail +++ Empfehlung der Redaktion +++ Internet Professionell 10/04 +++ From mcwimpy at gmx.at Tue Sep 21 10:34:05 2004 From: mcwimpy at gmx.at (Markus Nicolussi) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:34:05 +0200 (MEST) Subject: FC3T2 -feature list References: <1095701418.1358.4.camel@one.myworld> Message-ID: <15047.1095762845@www20.gmx.net> Thank u, that helped a lot. Now i only miss information about the integration of dmraid and support for my SATA RAID chipset from Silicon Image ciao, nico. > http://www.bytebot.net/talks/FC3-t2rawhide-whatsnew.pdf > -- +++ GMX DSL Premiumtarife 3 Monate gratis* + WLAN-Router 0,- EUR* +++ Clevere DSL-Nutzer wechseln jetzt zu GMX: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From mcwimpy at gmx.at Tue Sep 21 10:43:21 2004 From: mcwimpy at gmx.at (Markus Nicolussi) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:43:21 +0200 (MEST) Subject: FC3T2 -feature list References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615F93@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <24681.1095763401@www20.gmx.net> Hey, that's really a hint :-) many thanx ciao, nico. > You can usually find the release notes on any mirror site. For example, > http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/i386/os/RELEASE > -NOTES-en.html > > Happy reading. > > Fred -- +++ GMX DSL Premiumtarife 3 Monate gratis* + WLAN-Router 0,- EUR* +++ Clevere DSL-Nutzer wechseln jetzt zu GMX: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From reader at newsguy.com Tue Sep 21 11:45:52 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 06:45:52 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: (Dan Williams's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:52:11 -0400 (EDT)") References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: Dan Williams writes: > Cards I've personally tested: > > Lucent WaveLan Gold > Cisco Aironet 340/350 > NetGear WG511 (_NOT_ WG511T) > Belkin F5D6020 v1, v2 > Intel ProWireless 2100/2200 Many thanks posters... especially those who reported having tested various cards. Good info... also good it is now archived. The report on madwifi fixes in cvs also very helpfull From reader at newsguy.com Tue Sep 21 11:46:51 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 06:46:51 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:20:52 -0500 (CDT)") References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> I guess there is always a choice.. if I want to eat the cost. What card[s] >> have the best support? Where I could just expect it to work like my older >> pcmcia (non-wireless netgear) cards do? > > Lets look at it the other way. The current rawhide kernel has the > following kernel moules: (If you can find the matching cards for any > of these drivers. ) > > [balay at localhost ~]$ ls /lib/modules/2.6.8-1.541/kernel/drivers/net/wireless > airo_cs.ko atmel.ko netwave_cs.ko orinoco_pci.ko prism54 wl3501_cs.ko > airo.ko atmel_pci.ko orinoco_cs.ko orinoco_plx.ko wavelan_cs.ko > atmel_cs.ko hermes.ko orinoco.ko orinoco_tmd.ko wavelan.ko Ah yes, this is a smart approach... thanks From cylon at streamyx.com Tue Sep 21 12:23:09 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:23:09 +0800 Subject: Reiserfs doesn't works! Message-ID: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> Installation...i think reiserfs doesn't work.Tried multiple installation even with the default LVM mode, without SELinux, with logical partition, even fresh install on a single harddisk. Its kinda frustrating for i had a /home partition on reiserfs. It works when i have it mounted on a Suse 9.1 (default with reiserfs). I'm looking forward for this release. It has lots of new features, even K3B and dvd+rw-tools were of the latest version (supports dual-layer DVD...though haven't tried it yet!) From sedge at vtr.co.uk Tue Sep 21 13:03:18 2004 From: sedge at vtr.co.uk (Simon Sedgwick) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:03:18 +0100 Subject: FC3test 2 haldaemon not starting Message-ID: <1095771798.5687.6.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> If you try and start it manually, verbose, non-daemon mode, it says: 12:58:01.873 [I] hald.c:317: hal 0.2.97.cvs20040901 12:58:01.873 [I] hald.c:321: Will not daemonize 12:58:01.875 [E] hald_dbus.c:1922: dbus_bus_get(): Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory Without this running you can't run "Removable Storage" from the preferences. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mailinglists at andreas-mueller.com Tue Sep 21 13:03:30 2004 From: mailinglists at andreas-mueller.com (Andreas Mueller) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:03:30 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 -feature list In-Reply-To: <23593.1095762070@www20.gmx.net> References: <604aa79104092008343f060e26@mail.gmail.com> <23593.1095762070@www20.gmx.net> Message-ID: <200409211503.30365.mailinglists@andreas-mueller.com> Markus Nicolussi wrote: > > Release Notes exist. I'm not sure how detailed you expect a > > feature list to be. > > Hell, a 'feature list' of xorg packages alone would take a whole > > book. > > > > -jef > > Yeah Release Notes would be a fine. But after searching 1 hour on the > fedora website i gave it up to search for it. So the question is: If > RelNotes exist, where are they? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en.html Andreas From pnasrat at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 12:51:21 2004 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:51:21 +0100 Subject: Fedora PPC list moved Message-ID: <1095771081.7895.22.camel@anu.eridu> Please note for everyone who wants to help test and bug report for PPC on rawhide (powermac for the most part) the list is hosted at infradead.org: http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc/ Tracker bug here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=121179 Paul From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue Sep 21 13:08:52 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3t2 NFS install hanging on DHCP config Message-ID: i'm trying to install FC3t2 on a dell latitude laptop -- hooked the laptop to a SMC EZ switch to which my main laptop is also connected, booted from a CD copy of boot.iso, everything worked fine until i got to the screen to "Configure TCP/IP", i selected DHCP, got the "Sending request for IP information for eth0..." dialog box for several seconds, then that dialog box disappeared and i was back at the TCP/IP configure screen again -- no error diagnostic or anything. checking the other virtual consoles, i can see the loading of the network module "xirc2ps_cs", then "running dhcp for eth0", and several iterations of pump told us: No DHCP reply received fair enough, i'll look at how DHCP is configured here, but shouldn't i expect to at least get an error diagnostic box of some kind telling me what just happened without having to resort to checking the virtual consoles? rday From david at fubar.dk Tue Sep 21 13:24:52 2004 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:24:52 +0200 Subject: FC3test 2 haldaemon not starting In-Reply-To: <1095771798.5687.6.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> References: <1095771798.5687.6.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> Message-ID: <1095773092.20471.99.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:03 +0100, Simon Sedgwick wrote: > If you try and start it manually, verbose, non-daemon mode, it says: > > 12:58:01.873 [I] hald.c:317: hal 0.2.97.cvs20040901 > 12:58:01.873 [I] hald.c:321: Will not daemonize > 12:58:01.875 [E] hald_dbus.c:1922: dbus_bus_get(): Failed to connect > to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory > > Without this running you can't run "Removable Storage" from the > preferences. > It looks like the messagebus isn't running - 'service messagebus status' should tell you and 'service messagebus start' will start it. David From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Sep 21 13:43:57 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:43:57 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 Printer Setup Fails Message-ID: <4150301D.7050606@earthlink.net> New install of FC3T2. Setting up printer same way as it works in FC1, FC2, FC3T1. Networked printer attached to Netgear PS110 print server with IP=192.168.1.102. Ping to print server OK. Set up using Networked Unix (LPD). Server 192.168.1.102, Printer L1. Printer is HP Desk Jet 970C. (Same problem with a second printer, Samsung ML-1750.) If I try a test page during setup, all looks ok, but it is never produced. I also tried no test page then printing a file from Gedit. The printer shows up in the Gedit print dialog. When I open System Tools > Print Manager, it's dialog opens, showing an icon for the printer, but a dialog labeled Question also pops up with "No printers found, Run the Printer configuration tool?" If I click OK, the Printer Configuration box opens, and the Description field contains "Network host '192.168.1.102' is busy, down, or unreachable, will retry in 30 seconds ..." However, a ping works just fine. If I click on the printer icon in Print Manager, it shows the job in the queue as printing. I'm not sure whether this is cups, printman, selinux or some other component. I originally had selinux as defaulted at install, but then added selinux=0 to the kernel line in grub.conf. Same results both ways. I can reboot to one of the other partitions listed at the beginning of this report and printing works just fine with the exact same setup. Reported as bugzilla 133064. Any suggestions? Thanks. Gerry From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Sep 21 14:21:37 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:21:37 +0200 Subject: Update: Oversized DVD problem (Re: Problem burning FC3T2 x86_64 DVD ISO) In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0409210134166d9ba7@mail.gmail.com> References: <883cfe6d04092023432b80759c@mail.gmail.com> <883cfe6d0409210013f03c469@mail.gmail.com> <883cfe6d0409210134166d9ba7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <415038F1.5050908@gmx.de> Michel Salim wrote: >Answering myself, growisofs works for burning oversized DVDs (very >unintuitive name), but in this case it failed. Guess I have to >download the CD ISOs instead. > the dvd-iso is ok? $ md5sum -c MD5SUM # growisofs -speed=2 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd=/path/to/image.iso does not work? -- shrek-m From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Sep 21 14:22:25 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:22:25 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 Hardware Browser very slow Message-ID: <41503921.9070308@earthlink.net> When using System Tools > Hardware Browser, the Information dialog appears for a very long time before the Hardware browser window opens, compared to all the previous FC versions. Gerry Tool From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Tue Sep 21 14:43:55 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:43:55 -0500 Subject: Reiserfs doesn't works! In-Reply-To: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> References: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> I always use reiserfs. I installed fc3-t2 on an athlon 2400 based system with the root on a scsi drive (tekram controller) and my home on an ide drive. No problems. I use: "linux reiserfs selinux=0" at the boot prompt. Make sure you use the selinux=0 here are you WILL have problems installing. Timothy On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 20:23 +0800, Mazli Alias wrote: > Installation...i think reiserfs doesn't work.Tried multiple installation > even with the default LVM mode, without SELinux, with logical partition, > even fresh install on a single harddisk. Its kinda frustrating for i had > a /home partition on reiserfs. It works when i have it mounted on a Suse > 9.1 (default with reiserfs). I'm looking forward for this release. It > has lots of new features, even K3B and dvd+rw-tools were of the latest > version (supports dual-layer DVD...though haven't tried it yet!) > > From whitney at post.harvard.edu Tue Sep 21 15:42:25 2004 From: whitney at post.harvard.edu (Wayne Whitney) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Install from .iso images on LVM? Message-ID: Hello, Maybe I'm being dense, but I don't see how to point the anaconda installer to .iso images that are on an LVM logical volume. Is it possible? Thanks, Wayne From cmadams at hiwaay.net Tue Sep 21 15:45:50 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:45:50 -0500 Subject: Install from .iso images on LVM? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040921154550.GC1477608@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Wayne Whitney said: > Maybe I'm being dense, but I don't see how to point the anaconda installer > to .iso images that are on an LVM logical volume. Is it possible? No, you can only install from hard disk when the partition is "simple" (no RAID, no LVM) and the fs type is vfat, ext2, or ext3. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Sep 21 15:50:35 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:50:35 -0400 Subject: Nice, but a problem In-Reply-To: <1095726834.4652.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095726834.4652.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1095781836.6459.0.camel@cei3544> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 01:33 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Well, I've done the upgrade proper from rawhide (lots of updates) to new > drives, clean install and everything else. > > It works well and looks healthy. > > Only one problem : system-config-soundcard won't work. All I get is... > I got that too. From jonathansavage at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 15:55:22 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:55:22 -0700 Subject: WEP Configuration wonky in T2? In-Reply-To: <1095745266.9129.39.camel@coeus> References: <1095728953.9129.24.camel@coeus> <1095732050.2951.27.camel@littlePiet> <1095745266.9129.39.camel@coeus> Message-ID: <2ad7cea104092108553e660ca@mail.gmail.com> I installed test 2 last night and things seem to be OK with the exception of enabling WEP. The card refuses to associate to my WAP when WEP is enabled. The same card/WEP key worked w/o any issues in test 1. The NIC does attach to the network when I disable WEP on the WAP. I checked the WEP key & was able to determine that it was input correctly e.g. 0x1234456 The card is a linksys WPC11 V. 3 Bests Jon From rryder at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 16:24:09 2004 From: rryder at gmail.com (Richard Ryder) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:24:09 -0400 Subject: Update: Oversized DVD problem (Re: Problem burning FC3T2 x86_64 DVD ISO) In-Reply-To: <415038F1.5050908@gmx.de> References: <883cfe6d04092023432b80759c@mail.gmail.com> <883cfe6d0409210013f03c469@mail.gmail.com> <883cfe6d0409210134166d9ba7@mail.gmail.com> <415038F1.5050908@gmx.de> Message-ID: <73d17b2904092109244d3f928@mail.gmail.com> I'm having the exact same problem burning the FC3T2 x86_64 iso. The md5's verify but dvdrecord reports the actual size of the data to be burned as about 5.5G for some reason even though the iso image is the expected size. On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:21:37 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > Michel Salim wrote: > > >Answering myself, growisofs works for burning oversized DVDs (very > >unintuitive name), but in this case it failed. Guess I have to > >download the CD ISOs instead. > > > > the dvd-iso is ok? > $ md5sum -c MD5SUM > > # growisofs -speed=2 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd=/path/to/image.iso > does not work? > > -- > shrek-m > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From cylon at streamyx.com Tue Sep 21 17:09:12 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:09:12 +0800 Subject: Reiserfs doesn't works! In-Reply-To: <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> References: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> Message-ID: <41506038.6030004@streamyx.com> Timothy Sandel wrote: >I always use reiserfs. I installed fc3-t2 on an athlon 2400 based >system with the root on a scsi drive (tekram controller) and my home on >an ide drive. No problems. > >I use: > >"linux reiserfs selinux=0" at the boot prompt. Make sure you use the >selinux=0 here are you WILL have problems installing. > >Timothy > > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 20:23 +0800, Mazli Alias wrote: > > >>Installation...i think reiserfs doesn't work.Tried multiple installation >>even with the default LVM mode, without SELinux, with logical partition, >>even fresh install on a single harddisk. Its kinda frustrating for i had >>a /home partition on reiserfs. It works when i have it mounted on a Suse >>9.1 (default with reiserfs). I'm looking forward for this release. It >>has lots of new features, even K3B and dvd+rw-tools were of the latest >>version (supports dual-layer DVD...though haven't tried it yet!) >> >> >> >> > > > > Thanx mate...I reinstalled the moment i received your mail.It works like a charm...but somehow it raises the reiserfs issue with selinux enable. Is there a way to enable it back so we can have a good testing of this (FC3Test2) release. From talbotscott at cox.net Tue Sep 21 17:46:13 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:46:13 -0700 Subject: FC3Test2 install problems Message-ID: <1095788773.3371.34.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> I was hoping that the test 2 final would solve at least 1 of my problems, but no such luck. If you missed my previous post, I have at least 2 problems which cause FC3T2 to not install correctly. First My System: MOBO 850 Pro2LE (MSI 6523) GFX ATI Radeon 7200 MEM 256M BIOS: ASI 6.00 CPU Intel P4 1.5GHz upon starting the install , directly after the warning that I am installing a "test" package etc. I get the following error message: Assertion (metadata_length >= bios_geom.sectors) at disk_dos.c: 7739 in function_add_logical_part_metadata()failed. and a choice of either ignore or cancel. Selecting either of these options will eventually cause the install to continue, though the message occurs approximately 50 times during the install process. Now the odd thing is that the first time that I tried to install (the 2nd pre-release) the system booted up and I had a working installation for a few days, when I foolishly tried to re-install in order to get some data on the error messages, if it weren't for that I would probably chuck this disk in the ocean and await FC3 final. Anyway after the install and reboot, the system comes up and just about the time I am expecting the login screen, the computer reboots. At first I thought this related to the problems I have with my Radeon 7200 and Xorg, but I have booted into init 3 and linux single and the same reboot occurs, also after the first reboot, the system reboots during the fsck on following boots (or later if I ignore the fsck). I was about to file a bugzilla, but against what? I thought anaconda, but it is apparently doing it's job - A key would seem to be to find out what the heck that assertion error is all about and why the heck was I able to install that first time and not since could it be the secret is which errors I ignored and which I canceled? Google was no help when I tried to find other Assertion errors. I've bee trying to follow the initscripts to see if I can figure out what is supposed to run when I reboot, but I am way too inexperienced for that. Any way I am sending dmesg and the tail of messages, which has little more data as to what occurs prior to reboot if anyone can give me a pointer Scott -- If in doubt, VOTE 'EM OUT! -------------- next part -------------- Linux version 2.6.8-1.541 (bhcompile at porky.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.1 20040831 (Red Hat 3.4.1-10)) #1 Wed Sep 1 18:01:20 EDT 2004 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000000fff0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000fff0000 - 000000000fff3000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 000000000fff3000 - 0000000010000000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffb00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 255MB LOWMEM available. zapping low mappings. On node 0 totalpages: 65520 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 61424 pages, LIFO batch:14 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.3 present. ACPI: RSDP (v000 IntelR ) @ 0x000f69c0 ACPI: RSDT (v001 IntelR AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x0fff3000 ACPI: FADT (v001 IntelR AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x0fff3040 ACPI: DSDT (v001 INTELR AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x00000000 ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x4008 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/12 vga=792 rhgb quiet mapped 4G/4G trampoline to ffff4000. Initializing CPU#0 CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=023c6000 soft=023c5000 PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes) Detected 1523.696 MHz processor. Using tsc for high-res timesource Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Memory: 255248k/262080k available (2024k kernel code, 6228k reserved, 631k data, 144k init, 0k highmem) Calibrating delay loop... 2998.27 BogoMIPS (lpj=1499136) Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Capability LSM initialized as secondary Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) CPU: After generic identify, caps: 3febf9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 3febf9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K CPU: L2 cache: 256K CPU: After all inits, caps: 3febf1ff 00000000 00000000 00000080 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz stepping 0a Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger. checking if image is initramfs... it is Freeing initrd memory: 577k freed NET: Registered protocol family 16 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb0d0, last bus=2 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040715 ACPI: Interpreter enabled ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) get_random_bytes called before random driver initialization PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HUB0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK0] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[D] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 9 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.3[B] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.4[C] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 5 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:01.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK0] enabled at IRQ 11 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:03.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 get_random_bytes called before random driver initialization vesafb: framebuffer at 0xe0000000, mapped to 0x12880000, size 4608k vesafb: mode is 1024x768x24, linelength=3072, pages=27 vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:481e vesafb: scrolling: redraw vesafb: Truecolor: size=0:8:8:8, shift=0:16:8:0 fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac) apm: overridden by ACPI. audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) audit(1095709761.4294965976:0): initialized Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks Initializing Cryptographic API ksign: Installing public key data Loading keyring - Added public key EB180CB126A51024 - User ID: Red Hat, Inc. (Kernel Module GPG key) pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 ACPI: Fan [FAN] (on) ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1 C2, 2 throttling states) ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (57 C) isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48 Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones agpgart: Detected an Intel i850 Chipset. agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe8000000 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing enabled ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device lo Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ICH2: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1 ICH2: chipset revision 4 ICH2: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: IC35L040AVER07-0, ATA DISK drive hdb: IOMEGA ZIP 250 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive Using cfq io scheduler ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: WDC WD1000BB-00CAA0, ATA DISK drive hdd: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Probing IDE interface ide2... ide2: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide3... ide3: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide4... ide4: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide5... ide5: Wait for ready failed before probe ! hda: max request size: 128KiB hda: 80418240 sectors (41174 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) hda: cache flushes not supported hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 > hdc: max request size: 128KiB hdc: 195371568 sectors (100030 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(33) hdc: cache flushes not supported hdc: hdc1 hdc2 hdc3 hdc4 < hdc5 hdc6 hdc7 hdc8 hdc9 hdc10 hdc11 > hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide hdb: No disk in drive hdb: 0kB, 0/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm usbcore: registered new driver hiddev usbcore: registered new driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 16Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 4681) Initializing IPsec netlink socket NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 17 ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5) ACPI wakeup devices: SLPB PCI0 HUB0 USB0 USB1 Freeing unused kernel memory: 144k freed EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem. EXT3-fs: write access will be enabled during recovery. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: recovery complete. EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. SELinux: Disabled at runtime. SELinux: Unregistering netfilter hooks inserting floppy driver for 2.6.8-1.541 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:01.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xa000, 00:40:f4:14:f9:61, IRQ 11 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C' ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49229 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 48000 i8xx TCO timer: initialized (0x4060). heartbeat=30 sec (nowayout=0) hw_random: RNG not detected USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[D] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: UHCI Host Controller PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: irq 11, io base 0000b000 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:1f.4[C] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: UHCI Host Controller PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.4 to 64 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: irq 11, io base 0000b400 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 SCSI subsystem initialized Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Vendor: Memorex Model: USB2 ThumbDrive Rev: 2.00 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 USB Mass Storage device found at 2 usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0005 usbcore: registered new driver usblp drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte hdwr sectors (131 MB) sda: Write Protect is off sda: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 sda: assuming drive cache: write through sda: unknown partition table Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 NET: Registered protocol family 10 Disabled Privacy Extensions on device 02359760(lo) IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device sit0 mtrr: 0xe0000000,0x4000000 overlaps existing 0xe0000000,0x400000 [drm] Initialized radeon 1.11.0 20020828 on minor 0: mtrr: 0xe0000000,0x4000000 overlaps existing 0xe0000000,0x400000 agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB] EXT3 FS on hdc11, internal journal device-mapper: 4.1.0-ioctl (2003-12-10) initialised: dm at uk.sistina.com ide-floppy: hdb: I/O error, pc = 0, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0 ide-floppy: hdb: I/O error, pc = 1b, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0 hdb: No disk in drive cdrom: open failed. Adding 506036k swap on /dev/hdc2. Priority:-1 extents:1 -------------- next part -------------- Sep 20 19:51:04 ip68-7-36-36 gpm: gpm startup succeeded Sep 20 19:51:04 ip68-7-36-36 crond: crond startup succeeded Sep 20 19:51:06 ip68-7-36-36 xfs: xfs startup succeeded Sep 20 19:51:06 ip68-7-36-36 anacron: anacron startup succeeded Sep 20 19:51:06 ip68-7-36-36 xfs[2718]: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo (unreadable) Sep 20 19:51:06 ip68-7-36-36 atd: atd startup succeeded Sep 20 19:51:07 ip68-7-36-36 gconfd (root-2777): starting (version 2.7.92), pid 2777 user 'root' Sep 20 19:51:07 ip68-7-36-36 gconfd (root-2777): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0 Sep 20 19:51:07 ip68-7-36-36 gconfd (root-2777): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/root/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 1 Sep 20 19:51:07 ip68-7-36-36 gconfd (root-2777): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 2 From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Sep 21 18:04:01 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:04:01 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Evolution Memory Hog Message-ID: <1095789841.6459.15.camel@cei3544> I'm seeing Evolution use 201 MB of RAM after fresh install of FC3T2 according to system monitor. System is sluggish. Anyone else seeing that. -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. - A computer is a device used to convert data into error messages. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Sep 21 18:11:31 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:11:31 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 update disaster Message-ID: I just tried update FC2 -> FC3T2 and pretty much destroyed my FC2. I have 2 parallel IDE drives, hda,hdb I have 2 SATA drives, sda,sdb. The SATA are setup for LVM2, and were working on FC2. I tried to update to FC3T2. I did not want to mess up my working install on SATA, so I copied the file system to hdb2 (ext3). I went to update. It correctly found 2 installations - the LVM one and the one on hdb2. I selected hdb2. It proceeded to write to SATA. No errors were produced, but the system would not boot. Just a grub prompt. I tried to rescue, using grub-install. Only managed to get a grub menu, but then messages about not being able to find any volume groups. No clue why that was. Finally, I gave up and did a re-install over the SATA. Now it's working again. From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 18:14:14 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:14:14 -0500 Subject: Update: Oversized DVD problem (Re: Problem burning FC3T2 x86_64 DVD ISO) In-Reply-To: <415038F1.5050908@gmx.de> References: <883cfe6d04092023432b80759c@mail.gmail.com> <883cfe6d0409210013f03c469@mail.gmail.com> <883cfe6d0409210134166d9ba7@mail.gmail.com> <415038F1.5050908@gmx.de> Message-ID: <883cfe6d0409211114b0a8b3@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:21:37 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > Michel Salim wrote: > > >Answering myself, growisofs works for burning oversized DVDs (very > >unintuitive name), but in this case it failed. Guess I have to > >download the CD ISOs instead. > > > > the dvd-iso is ok? > $ md5sum -c MD5SUM > > # growisofs -speed=2 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd=/path/to/image.iso > does not work? > Oh, do I have to pass -Z? Ah, according to the manual, -Z is for initial session setup.. and the DVD is actually readable when burned without -Z, it's just that linux mediacheck fails. I really would not mind if the final release comes to one DVD and one CD, really.. it's much preferable to have a DVD image that is guaranteed to burn on standard media. -- Michel Salim ??? http://salimma.livejournal.com From dmalcolm at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 18:14:49 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:14:49 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Evolution Memory Hog In-Reply-To: <1095789841.6459.15.camel@cei3544> References: <1095789841.6459.15.camel@cei3544> Message-ID: <1095790489.16613.6.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:04 -0400, Will Backman wrote: > I'm seeing Evolution use 201 MB of RAM after fresh install of FC3T2 > according to system monitor. System is sluggish. > Anyone else seeing that. Works OK for me (though I'm running evolution-2.0.0-2, rather than evolution-1.5.94.1-1) What accounts do you have set up? (for email, calendar, tasks, and contacts) From montard at kps.fr Tue Sep 21 18:14:40 2004 From: montard at kps.fr (montard at kps.fr) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:14:40 +0200 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095790480.41506f9069411@imp.kps.fr> hello, i just installed fedora core test , and i m dispoited because when i try to do yum list *mplayer* for exemple it doesn t work.. i mean there is no package found.. it s the same for vlc.. so do i have to add something in the yum.conf file ? or anything else ? thx a lot From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Sep 21 18:16:04 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:16:04 -0400 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095790480.41506f9069411@imp.kps.fr> References: <1095790480.41506f9069411@imp.kps.fr> Message-ID: <1095790564.12406.67.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:14, montard at kps.fr wrote: > hello, > > i just installed fedora core test , and i m dispoited because when i try to do > yum list *mplayer* for exemple it doesn t work.. i mean there is no package > found.. it s the same for vlc.. > so do i have to add something in the yum.conf file ? > or anything else ? > try: yum list \*mplayer\* so the shell doesn't expand your glob. -sv From russell at coker.com.au Tue Sep 21 18:20:40 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:20:40 +1000 Subject: X configuration Message-ID: <200409220420.40919.russell@coker.com.au> I have just installed a pre-release of FC3T2 and it didn't ask me for the screen resolution and gave a default install of 800x600 (yuk). I have just started an install of FC3T2 and it gives the same result. Is it my imagination or is this feature suddenly missing? I'm asking here because I can't believe that this slipped through and figure that I must have stuffed something up somehow. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Sep 21 18:26:31 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:26:31 -0400 Subject: cron as normal user - changed? Message-ID: Did cron change? crontab < crontab.nbecker You (nbecker) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) See crontab(1) for more information I don't think FC2 did this - what needs to be changed to allow it? From montard at kps.fr Tue Sep 21 18:53:38 2004 From: montard at kps.fr (montard at kps.fr) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:53:38 +0200 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095790564.12406.67.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> References: <1095790480.41506f9069411@imp.kps.fr> <1095790564.12406.67.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: <1095792818.415078b2311a1@imp.kps.fr> it doesn t work too...* i ve this "Reading repository metadata in from local files developmen: ################################################## 3525/3525 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree " maybe i need a new yum.conf file ? no if it works for u, can u send me u re yum.conf file thx Selon seth vidal : > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:14, montard at kps.fr wrote: > > hello, > > > > i just installed fedora core test , and i m dispoited because when i try > to do > > yum list *mplayer* for exemple it doesn t work.. i mean there is no package > > found.. it s the same for vlc.. > > so do i have to add something in the yum.conf file ? > > or anything else ? > > > > try: > yum list \*mplayer\* > > so the shell doesn't expand your glob. > > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From martin at lnuxpwrd.net Tue Sep 21 18:55:52 2004 From: martin at lnuxpwrd.net (Martin) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:55:52 -0500 Subject: evolution 1.5.94 doesn't import mail from evolution 1.4.6 Message-ID: <1095792952.1794.12.camel@laptop> (apologies if this is a duplicate). I upgraded to FC3T2 and along with that got the 1.5.94 evolution. During the first launch, it didn't prompt me to import my 1.4.6 evolution email folders. file->import allows me to import folder by folder but that's going to take too long. Shouldn't it prompt me when I first use 1.5.94 to import previous folders and filters? I used earlier earlier version of 1.5 when it was briefly in rawhide earlier this year. I wonder if that's why it's not prompting to import old folders? Thanks for any pointers. Marty From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Sep 21 19:02:59 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:02:59 -0400 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095792818.415078b2311a1@imp.kps.fr> References: <1095790480.41506f9069411@imp.kps.fr> <1095790564.12406.67.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <1095792818.415078b2311a1@imp.kps.fr> Message-ID: <1095793379.12406.77.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:53, montard at kps.fr wrote: > it doesn t work too...* > i ve this > "Reading repository metadata in from local files > developmen: ################################################## 3525/3525 > Excluding Packages > Excluding Incompatible Archs > Finished > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree > " > > maybe i need a new yum.conf file ? no > if it works for u, can u send me u re yum.conf file do you have a file match *mplayer* in the dir you're running yum from? if so - that will cause problems until 2.1.4 comes out it was a small bug in the script that calls yum from /usr/bin/yum. -sv From perbj at stanford.edu Tue Sep 21 19:17:34 2004 From: perbj at stanford.edu (Per Bjornsson) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:17:34 -0700 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095793379.12406.77.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> References: <1095790480.41506f9069411@imp.kps.fr> <1095790564.12406.67.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <1095792818.415078b2311a1@imp.kps.fr> <1095793379.12406.77.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: <1095794254.2992.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 12:02, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:53, montard at kps.fr wrote: ... > > maybe i need a new yum.conf file ? no > > if it works for u, can u send me u re yum.conf file > > do you have a file match *mplayer* in the dir you're running yum from? Can't it just be that there are no repos configured that contain mplayer? The basic Fedora repos certainly don't; the easiest option is rpm.livna.org . /Per -- Per Bjornsson Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University From jfm512 at free.fr Tue Sep 21 19:01:11 2004 From: jfm512 at free.fr (Jean Francois Martinez) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:01:11 +0200 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <1095733005.4431.178.camel@nexus.verbum.private> References: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> <1095714761.2867.66.camel@agnes> <1095733005.4431.178.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: <1095793270.2955.47.camel@agnes> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 04:16, Colin Walters wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 23:12 +0200, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > > The other day I had a discussion with the sysadmin of > > another department and our common position was: 1) The state of > > the art in kernel building (ie use of modules and cpu detection by > > the installer) allows vendors to ship kernels whose > > performance is close enough to a custom built one the user should > > not need to bother with recompiling. 2) If the kernel you get out > > of the box is an underperformer then it is a _bug_. > > Er, a large part of the LWN audience is kernel and other low-level > systems developers. This may seem surprising, but kernel developers > tend to compile their own kernels, and then install them. > If kernel developers were a _large_ part of LWN's audience then LWN would have died long ago due to lack of revenue. Oh and a still larger portion uses a web browser... I persist that a proper benchmark should between other things 1) be strongly coupled with what you are trying to measure 2) Try to cover a reasonably large part of the different aspects of performance. It is to the user, not to the author to select the aspects who are important to him and if for some reason you make a limited test then you should include some caveats like "kernel compiling is mostly about reading small files in small or average directories, it doesn't exert this, this and this" And now if you want to discuss it further I think we should do it in private > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Jean Francois Martinez From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Sep 21 19:18:00 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:18:00 -0400 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095794254.2992.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095790480.41506f9069411@imp.kps.fr> <1095790564.12406.67.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <1095792818.415078b2311a1@imp.kps.fr> <1095793379.12406.77.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <1095794254.2992.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1095794280.12406.90.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 15:17, Per Bjornsson wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 12:02, seth vidal wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:53, montard at kps.fr wrote: > ... > > > maybe i need a new yum.conf file ? no > > > if it works for u, can u send me u re yum.conf file > > > > do you have a file match *mplayer* in the dir you're running yum from? > > Can't it just be that there are no repos configured that contain > mplayer? The basic Fedora repos certainly don't; the easiest option is > rpm.livna.org . > true! it could just be that. -sv From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Tue Sep 21 19:43:36 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:43:36 -0400 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... Message-ID: On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:53, montard at kps.fr wrote: > it doesn t work too...* > i ve this > "Reading repository metadata in from local files > developmen: ################################################## 3525/3525 > Excluding Packages > Excluding Incompatible Archs > Finished > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree Or is the problem, that mplayer cannot be found because it's _not_ part of the FC3T2 distribution? From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Sep 21 19:22:08 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:22:08 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Evolution Memory Hog In-Reply-To: <1095790489.16613.6.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1095789841.6459.15.camel@cei3544> <1095790489.16613.6.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095794529.9667.0.camel@cei3544> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:14 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:04 -0400, Will Backman wrote: > > I'm seeing Evolution use 201 MB of RAM after fresh install of FC3T2 > > according to system monitor. System is sluggish. > > Anyone else seeing that. > Works OK for me (though I'm running evolution-2.0.0-2, rather than > evolution-1.5.94.1-1) > > What accounts do you have set up? (for email, calendar, tasks, and > contacts Just saw that updates are available. I'll try that first. From whb at ceimaine.org Tue Sep 21 19:41:47 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:41:47 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 redhat-artwork arch Message-ID: <1095795709.9667.2.camel@cei3544> should the redhat-artwork be noarch instead of the current i386? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. - A computer is a device used to convert data into error messages. From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue Sep 21 20:35:46 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:35:46 +0200 Subject: Wireless configuration (bugs?) In-Reply-To: <1095745266.9129.39.camel@coeus> References: <1095728953.9129.24.camel@coeus> <1095732050.2951.27.camel@littlePiet> <1095745266.9129.39.camel@coeus> Message-ID: <1095798946.3125.12.camel@littlePiet> Am Di, den 21.09.2004 schrieb Carl Gherardi um 7:41: > > Of course it is possible to have more than one nic. > > :) > > Should have mentioned that the two nics cant be in my laptop at the same > time, they physically dont fit. That doesn't matter. Nevertheless you should have it configured. > > At first you should > > use system-config-network to (re-)configure your Xircom Card in a proper > > way (as eth0). Test it. > > A proper way? Do you mean using profiles? You don't necessarily need profiles. You can switch between the 2 card by using systen-control-network or by if[up|down] [eth0|ath0]. You should first configure your eth0 adapter card, perhaps using system-config-network or doing it manually. Make shure, that you see eth0 in system-config-network and in system-control-network, and that you can activate and deactivate it and it works. Then you should add the files I mentioned in my post. After doing so you should see a second device when you open system-control-network. And when you insert your atheros card, it should be activated via hotplug or at least you should be able to activate it via system-control-network (or ifup ath0 on the command line as su - ). You can even configure it using the redhat tools. The problem is: anaconda / kudzu does not recognise the card. It doesn't know that the driver wants to be ath0. And it doesn't insert the line TYPE=Wireless into the configuration file. Therefore the redhat tools don't let you configure the wireless features. If you correct these issues, you can use the redhat tools as usual. Peter From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue Sep 21 20:38:32 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:38:32 +0200 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <414F65A5.90300@picomp314.serveftp.net> References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> <414F1464.7090704@arcor.de> <1095718164.2951.12.camel@littlePiet> <414F65A5.90300@picomp314.serveftp.net> Message-ID: <1095799112.3125.15.camel@littlePiet> Am Di, den 21.09.2004 schrieb picomp314 um 1:20: > I know how to get it working! You have to download a patch mentioned in > the FAQ for the madwifi CVS, after that it works quite well indeed. The > 2.6.8.x series changed some things that the madwifi driver writers > haven't been able to catch up to yet... Yes, I got to know that some weeks ago as someone posted the link here on the list. 'After applying the patch I could compile the drivers and load it, but no connection to the AP. Thanks Peter From montard at kps.fr Tue Sep 21 20:45:04 2004 From: montard at kps.fr (montard at kps.fr) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:45:04 +0200 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> maybe but i don t know... it seems strange that there is no divx player compmatible... i tried with vlc,mplayer,xine.... so does any one of you have something like yum list *mlpayer* or *vlc* working ? thx Selon Fulko.Hew at sita.aero: > > > > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 14:53, montard at kps.fr wrote: > > it doesn t work too...* > > i ve this > > "Reading repository metadata in from local files > > developmen: ################################################## 3525/3525 > > Excluding Packages > > Excluding Incompatible Archs > > Finished > > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree > > Or is the problem, that mplayer cannot be found because it's > _not_ part of the FC3T2 distribution? > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From walters at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 20:53:09 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:53:09 -0400 Subject: Reiserfs doesn't works! In-Reply-To: <41506038.6030004@streamyx.com> References: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> <41506038.6030004@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <1095799989.3978.20.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 01:09 +0800, Mazli Alias wrote: > Thanx mate...I reinstalled the moment i received your mail.It works like > a charm...but somehow it raises the reiserfs issue with selinux enable. > Is there a way to enable it back so we can have a good testing of this > (FC3Test2) release. No, reiserfs doesn't support extended attributes, so won't work with SELinux. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dmalcolm at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 20:55:53 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:55:53 -0400 Subject: evolution 1.5.94 doesn't import mail from evolution 1.4.6 In-Reply-To: <1095792952.1794.12.camel@laptop> References: <1095792952.1794.12.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <1095800154.19692.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 13:55 -0500, Martin wrote: > (apologies if this is a duplicate). > > I upgraded to FC3T2 and along with that got the 1.5.94 > evolution. During the first launch, it didn't prompt me to import my > 1.4.6 evolution email folders. file->import allows me to import folder > by folder but that's going to take too long. > > Shouldn't it prompt me when I first use 1.5.94 to import previous > folders and filters? > > I used earlier earlier version of 1.5 when it was briefly > in rawhide earlier this year. I wonder if that's why it's not > prompting to import old folders? > Run gconf-editor and have a look at /apps/evolution. You should see keys named "last_version" and "version". I'm guessing that the "last_version" key is already set to a value sufficiently high that evolution decides no further importing is necessary. If you set "last_version" to 1.4.6 and restart evolution it should redo the import process, though it will probably trash your ~/.evolution along the way. Caveat: I haven't recently tested the above; probably worth backing up beforehand... Dave Malcolm From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Sep 21 21:03:05 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:03:05 +0200 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> References: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> Message-ID: <41509709.3020203@gmx.de> for fc1 and fc2? yes http://rpm.livna.org/ http://freshrpms.net/ >maybe but i don t know... >it seems strange that there is no divx player compmatible... >i tried with vlc,mplayer,xine.... >so does any one of you have something like yum list *mlpayer* or *vlc* working ? > > >>Or is the problem, that mplayer cannot be found because it's >>_not_ part of the FC3T2 distribution? >> >> -- shrek-m From picomp314 at picomp314.serveftp.net Tue Sep 21 21:02:42 2004 From: picomp314 at picomp314.serveftp.net (picomp314) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:02:42 -0500 Subject: wireless expectations FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <1095799112.3125.15.camel@littlePiet> References: <1095678672.12838.2.camel@steelgoose.com> <1095680103.12838.4.camel@steelgoose.com> <414ECB5E.5000202@arcor.de> <1095685134.3000.7.camel@littlePiet> <414F1464.7090704@arcor.de> <1095718164.2951.12.camel@littlePiet> <414F65A5.90300@picomp314.serveftp.net> <1095799112.3125.15.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <415096F2.1000006@picomp314.serveftp.net> sounds like a wonky config file to me... Although, I did notice some odd behavior after I finally go it to compile. Getting it working involved some judicious usage of dhclient ath0, ifconfig ath0 up, and the disabling of other NICs seemed to help as well. Peter wrote: > Am Di, den 21.09.2004 schrieb picomp314 um 1:20: > >>I know how to get it working! You have to download a patch mentioned in >>the FAQ for the madwifi CVS, after that it works quite well indeed. The >>2.6.8.x series changed some things that the madwifi driver writers >>haven't been able to catch up to yet... > > > Yes, I got to know that some weeks ago as someone posted the link here > on the list. 'After applying the patch I could compile the drivers and > load it, but no connection to the AP. > > > Thanks > > Peter > > > > > > From montard at kps.fr Tue Sep 21 21:00:34 2004 From: montard at kps.fr (montard at kps.fr) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:00:34 +0200 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <41509709.3020203@gmx.de> References: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> <41509709.3020203@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1095800434.4150967218b01@imp.kps.fr> i know for fc2.. but right now i m one FC3 test 2... and it seems there is not... do u know if it s possible to use the package for fc2 ? if yes i ve to chnage my yum.conf but i don t know what to change... thx Selon "shrek-m at gmx.de" : > > for fc1 and fc2? > yes > > http://rpm.livna.org/ > http://freshrpms.net/ > > >maybe but i don t know... > >it seems strange that there is no divx player compmatible... > >i tried with vlc,mplayer,xine.... > >so does any one of you have something like yum list *mlpayer* or *vlc* > working ? > > > > > >>Or is the problem, that mplayer cannot be found because it's > >>_not_ part of the FC3T2 distribution? > >> > >> > > -- > shrek-m > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Sep 21 21:23:26 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:23:26 +0200 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095800434.4150967218b01@imp.kps.fr> References: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> <41509709.3020203@gmx.de> <1095800434.4150967218b01@imp.kps.fr> Message-ID: <41509BCE.1080703@gmx.de> >i know for fc2.. >but right now i m one FC3 test 2... and it seems there is not... >do u know if it s possible to use the package for fc2 ? if yes i ve to chnage my >yum.conf but i don t know what to change... > i do not know. try source - ./configure, make, make install source-rpm - rpmbuild ;-) http://mplayerhq.hu http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html The recommended way to install MPlayer is to compile from source. For a complete installation you will need sources , a set of codecs , a set of fonts for the onscreen display (OSD) and a skin if you want a graphical user interface. Quick compilation and installation instructions are contained in the README , the installation section of the documentation has more complete information. http://www.xinehq.de/ http://www.videolan.org/ ... -- shrek-m From bwheadley at earthlink.net Tue Sep 21 21:22:47 2004 From: bwheadley at earthlink.net (Bryan W. Headley) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:22:47 -0500 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095800434.4150967218b01@imp.kps.fr> References: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> <41509709.3020203@gmx.de> <1095800434.4150967218b01@imp.kps.fr> Message-ID: <41509BA7.2070206@earthlink.net> montard at kps.fr wrote: >i know for fc2.. >but right now i m one FC3 test 2... and it seems there is not... >do u know if it s possible to use the package for fc2 ? if yes i ve to chnage my >yum.conf but i don t know what to change... > > Get the source rpms and build for FC3t2 From montard at kps.fr Tue Sep 21 21:27:16 2004 From: montard at kps.fr (montard at kps.fr) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:27:16 +0200 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <41509BA7.2070206@earthlink.net> References: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> <41509709.3020203@gmx.de> <1095800434.4150967218b01@imp.kps.fr> <41509BA7.2070206@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1095802036.41509cb48b730@imp.kps.fr> ok i ll try... it s a bit stupid to don have it in the yum conf file... i mean it take a lot more time to do with dependance... Selon "Bryan W. Headley" : > montard at kps.fr wrote: > > >i know for fc2.. > >but right now i m one FC3 test 2... and it seems there is not... > >do u know if it s possible to use the package for fc2 ? if yes i ve to > chnage my > >yum.conf but i don t know what to change... > > > > > Get the source rpms and build for FC3t2 > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 21:29:22 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:29:22 -0400 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> References: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> Message-ID: <604aa791040921142965b999cd@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:45:04 +0200, montard at kps.fr wrote: > maybe but i don t know... > it seems strange that there is no divx player compmatible... > i tried with vlc,mplayer,xine.... > so does any one of you have something like yum list *mlpayer* or *vlc* working ? It's not strange at all really, I sort of expect during test releases to have trouble finding addon packages built explicitly for test release. Its just one of those things that comes with running test releases. I don't expect the people who build addon packages to be able to keep up with the nearly daily updates that are happening. And for this test release the new yum version adds a little extra wrinkle. Let me summarize some important things I think you should understand: 1) the yum.conf that comes in the test release is configured ONLY to see packages in Fedora Core. mplayer and the rest are NOT packages in Fedora Core. If you want add-on packages you must reconfigure your yum.conf appropriately to use repositories that have these packages. 2) the yum that comes with fc3t2 uses a new repository metadata format. Which is NOT compatible with the yum in fc2 or fc1. So.. you can not assume that a yum.conf entry which works for fc1 or fc2 will work for the yum in fc3t2. You need to be aware of which add on repositories are offering the new metadata format. You might have to use a different url for an addon repository to get access to the new metadata. Livna for example offers the new metadata for the newer yum, but you have ot use different urls to access it. 3) add on repositories which have packages from fc1 and fc2 might not make the same effort to have packages built specifically for a test release. You might have to try to use packages built for fc2 from some add on repositories to get packages that you want. This also impacts yum.conf entries, since 'clever' yum entries look for packages by using the release number of the fedora core release you are running. You might have to learn how to configure yum.conf and create explicit entries to use packages meant for fc2 on the fc3 test release to install the addons you want to test. -jef From bwheadley at earthlink.net Tue Sep 21 21:37:30 2004 From: bwheadley at earthlink.net (Bryan W. Headley) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:37:30 -0500 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <1095802036.41509cb48b730@imp.kps.fr> References: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> <41509709.3020203@gmx.de> <1095800434.4150967218b01@imp.kps.fr> <41509BA7.2070206@earthlink.net> <1095802036.41509cb48b730@imp.kps.fr> Message-ID: <41509F1A.40204@earthlink.net> montard at kps.fr wrote: >ok i ll try... >it s a bit stupid to don have it in the yum conf file... >i mean it take a lot more time to do with dependance... > > > They haven't released their rpms yet, so there's nothing to put in your yum.conf that will work. You will have to build them yourself. Nice thing is, you can donate your work back to the freshrpm guys... From dcbw at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 21:38:02 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WEP Configuration wonky in T2? In-Reply-To: <2ad7cea104092108553e660ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <1095728953.9129.24.camel@coeus> <1095732050.2951.27.camel@littlePiet> <1095745266.9129.39.camel@coeus> <2ad7cea104092108553e660ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I also have issues, for example, my Cisco 350 card will _not_ connect to my Linksys WRT54G when WEP is enabled, but the same card will do just fine to that base station under Windows98 and 2000. One thing you might try is to change the authentication mode. iwconfig eth1 key open OR iwconfig eth1 key restricted Techically, "open" is Open System Authentication, and "restricted" is Shared Key Authentication, which ahve to be set on your access point. But try both modes just for kicks. Dan On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Jon Savage wrote: > I installed test 2 last night and things seem to be OK with the > exception of enabling WEP. > The card refuses to associate to my WAP when WEP is enabled. The same > card/WEP key worked w/o any issues in test 1. The NIC does attach to > the network when I disable WEP on the WAP. I checked the WEP key & was > able to determine that it was input correctly e.g. 0x1234456 > > The card is a linksys WPC11 V. 3 > > Bests > > Jon > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue Sep 21 21:55:36 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:55:36 +0200 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <1095793270.2955.47.camel@agnes> References: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> <1095714761.2867.66.camel@agnes> <1095733005.4431.178.camel@nexus.verbum.private> <1095793270.2955.47.camel@agnes> Message-ID: <1095803733.1148.20.camel@one.myworld> Le mar 21/09/2004 ? 21:01, Jean Francois Martinez a ?crit : > > I persist that a proper benchmark should OK, prefer reiser4 since it's the best FS for _your_ benchmarks. LWN write very good/interesting articles even with bias benchmarks (which i don't really care for file system). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From terraformers at gmx.net Tue Sep 21 21:56:41 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:56:41 +0200 Subject: Support of PCI wireless cards. References: <20040920191923.D3CED73895@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: running an allnet all0270 pci wifi card here that has an intersil chipset and uses the kernel prism54 driver. works really great *out of the box*, one only needs the firmware file from prism54.org an put it into /lib/firmware/. tools like kismet and airsnort are running well. a list for supported prism54 cards is here http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php guess other kernel driver supported cards work ok too. best lars Robert Cahn wrote: > The discussion of wireless seems to be for PCMCIA cards. What is the > status > of the support for PCI cards? I have an inconveniently located desktop. > > /Bob > > Robert Cahn > Gipsy Trail Club > Carmel, NY 10512 > 845-225-0265, 917-312-3409 (cell) > rcahn at ieee.org From alan at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 22:00:22 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:00:22 -0400 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <1095803733.1148.20.camel@one.myworld> References: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> <1095714761.2867.66.camel@agnes> <1095733005.4431.178.camel@nexus.verbum.private> <1095793270.2955.47.camel@agnes> <1095803733.1148.20.camel@one.myworld> Message-ID: <20040921220022.GA3379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 11:55:36PM +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > OK, prefer reiser4 since it's the best FS for _your_ benchmarks. > LWN write very good/interesting articles even with bias benchmarks > (which i don't really care for file system). The LWN benchmark implies the disk was partitioned and each fs got one of the two 2G partitions if so then its worthless because there is often over 20% speed difference between different parts of a disk From lnxxprt at arcor.de Tue Sep 21 22:17:30 2004 From: lnxxprt at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:17:30 +0200 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <41509F1A.40204@earthlink.net> References: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> <41509709.3020203@gmx.de> <1095800434.4150967218b01@imp.kps.fr> <41509BA7.2070206@earthlink.net> <1095802036.41509cb48b730@imp.kps.fr> <41509F1A.40204@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4150A87A.2080101@arcor.de> sorry to say that but you are wrong. the mplayer package for fc2 from freshrpms works fine. for the root poster: put that in your yum.conf: [freshrpms] name=Fedora Linux $releasever - $basearch - freshrpms baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/2/$basearch/freshrpms then run "yum install mplayer" /ds Bryan W. Headley schrieb: > montard at kps.fr wrote: > >> ok i ll try... >> it s a bit stupid to don have it in the yum conf file... >> i mean it take a lot more time to do with dependance... >> >> >> > They haven't released their rpms yet, so there's nothing to put in your > yum.conf that will work. You will have to build them yourself. Nice > thing is, you can donate your work back to the freshrpm guys... > > From perbj at stanford.edu Tue Sep 21 22:22:12 2004 From: perbj at stanford.edu (Per Bjornsson) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:22:12 -0700 Subject: The lost art of benchmarking was Re: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <20040921220022.GA3379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040920143154.6654.qmail@lwn.net> <1095714761.2867.66.camel@agnes> <1095733005.4431.178.camel@nexus.verbum.private> <1095793270.2955.47.camel@agnes> <1095803733.1148.20.camel@one.myworld> <20040921220022.GA3379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095805332.2992.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 15:00, Alan Cox wrote: > The LWN benchmark implies the disk was partitioned and each fs got one of > the two 2G partitions if so then its worthless because there is often over > 20% speed difference between different parts of a disk However, earlier in this thread Jonathan Corbet explained that he actually used _the same partition_ for testing both filesystems; in this case, the fact that there were more partitions on the disk is a completely irrelevant implementation detail which could in fact just as well have been left out of the article. So it seems that the benchmark was OK but the explanation in the article might have been a bit confusing. /Per -- Per Bjornsson Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University From michal at harddata.com Tue Sep 21 22:26:28 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:26:28 -0600 Subject: FC3T2 Printer Setup Problems In-Reply-To: <414F8517.1060005@earthlink.net>; from gstool@earthlink.net on Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:34:15PM -0500 References: <414F8517.1060005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040921162628.A7260@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:34:15PM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > When I open Print > Manager, they are not there; Print Manager says there are no printers > defined and ases if it should open Printer configuration. When I do, > they are listed there, but not in Print Manager. This was already reported a while ago. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132288 Add your comments there. Especially if you have local printers behaving that way as my printer is on a network. Michal From otaylor at redhat.com Tue Sep 21 22:36:10 2004 From: otaylor at redhat.com (Owen Taylor) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:36:10 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 redhat-artwork arch In-Reply-To: <1095795709.9667.2.camel@cei3544> References: <1095795709.9667.2.camel@cei3544> Message-ID: <1095806170.2950.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 15:41 -0400, Will Backman wrote: > should the redhat-artwork be noarch instead of the current i386? redhat-artwork contains theme engines for GTK+ and Qt. Regards, Owen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue Sep 21 23:06:37 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:06:37 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 Hardware Browser very slow In-Reply-To: <41503921.9070308@earthlink.net> References: <41503921.9070308@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1095807992.1148.24.camel@one.myworld> Le mar 21/09/2004 ? 16:22, Gerry Tool a ?crit : > When using System Tools > Hardware Browser, the Information dialog > appears for a very long time before the Hardware browser window opens, > compared to all the previous FC versions. > Should Fedora keep hwbrower whereas there is hal-gnome ? > Gerry Tool > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue Sep 21 23:29:02 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:29:02 +0200 Subject: Yum.conf ... mplayer&co... In-Reply-To: <4150A87A.2080101@arcor.de> References: <1095799504.415092d0841c0@imp.kps.fr> <41509709.3020203@gmx.de> <1095800434.4150967218b01@imp.kps.fr> <41509BA7.2070206@earthlink.net> <1095802036.41509cb48b730@imp.kps.fr> <41509F1A.40204@earthlink.net> <4150A87A.2080101@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1095809337.1148.26.camel@one.myworld> Le mer 22/09/2004 ? 00:17, D. Stolte a ?crit : > sorry to say that but you are wrong. the mplayer package for fc2 from > freshrpms works fine. Same with mplayer from rpm.livna.org (and fedora.us). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From usdanskys at rocketmail.com Tue Sep 21 23:50:02 2004 From: usdanskys at rocketmail.com (Steven I Usdansky) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: xfce option at installation time? Message-ID: <20040921235002.55275.qmail@web14107.mail.yahoo.com> Did I miss it or is there still no option to install xfce at installation time (except, presumably, by selecting a full install)? Steven I Usdansky Traveling Geologist It's not rocket science - it's rock science! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From jonathansavage at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 00:12:57 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:12:57 -0700 Subject: WEP Configuration wonky in T2? In-Reply-To: References: <1095728953.9129.24.camel@coeus> <1095732050.2951.27.camel@littlePiet> <1095745266.9129.39.camel@coeus> <2ad7cea104092108553e660ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad7cea104092117122dbb1c76@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:38:02 -0400 (EDT), Dan Williams wrote: > Hi, > > I also have issues, for example, my Cisco 350 card will _not_ connect to > my Linksys WRT54G when WEP is enabled, but the same card will do just fine > to that base station under Windows98 and 2000. > > One thing you might try is to change the authentication mode. > > iwconfig eth1 key open > OR > iwconfig eth1 key restricted > > Techically, "open" is Open System Authentication, and "restricted" is > Shared Key Authentication, which ahve to be set on your access point. But > try both modes just for kicks. > > Dan > Thanks, Dan I'll try that later tonight. I did not see anything in bugzilla as of this afternoon, should it be added? Bests Jon From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Wed Sep 22 00:34:58 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:34:58 -0400 Subject: Scanner seems to have vanished In-Reply-To: <1095669724.25653.30.camel@hg-operator> References: <1095523451.4933.61.camel@T7.linux> <1095669724.25653.30.camel@hg-operator> Message-ID: <4150C8B2.7020809@rogers.com> M.Clasen wrote: >Hello Paul, > > > >>Hi, >> >>When I start my PC up, FC finds my SCSI scanner quite happily (I have an >>Adaptec AHA7850 SCSI controller). When I run kooka, only my USB webcam >>is found. The module loaded is the aic7xxx for the SCSI card. This has >>never skipped a beat or failed. >> >> >> >i used an Mustek MFC-600S on aic7xxx and currently on ncr53c8xx and >never had problems, but i never used kooka, i always used xsane on this >scanner, dont ask, why, i donno. > >currently i tryed kooka, try to select the current scanner and i saw, i >saw nothing :( nothing happens on kooka - unusable for me here. >maybe tryout xsane. > >to get my scanner to work, i have to sudo xsane, otherwise no scanners >were found - some permission discrepancies. > >regards > >Michael > > I have asked this question before. My scanner is found and the usb bus does report the scanner fine. But when Kooka scans something, there is no output. If I use xsane. The output is displayed for what the scanner captured. Dwaine. From cylon at streamyx.com Wed Sep 22 00:34:34 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:34:34 +0800 Subject: Update: Oversized DVD problem (Re: Problem burning FC3T2 x86_64 DVD ISO) In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0409211114b0a8b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <883cfe6d04092023432b80759c@mail.gmail.com> <883cfe6d0409210013f03c469@mail.gmail.com> <883cfe6d0409210134166d9ba7@mail.gmail.com> <415038F1.5050908@gmx.de> <883cfe6d0409211114b0a8b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4150C89A.9040306@streamyx.com> Michel Salim wrote: >On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:21:37 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > >>Michel Salim wrote: >> >> >> >>>Answering myself, growisofs works for burning oversized DVDs (very >>>unintuitive name), but in this case it failed. Guess I have to >>>download the CD ISOs instead. >>> >>> >>> >>the dvd-iso is ok? >>$ md5sum -c MD5SUM >> >># growisofs -speed=2 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd=/path/to/image.iso >>does not work? >> >> >> >Oh, do I have to pass -Z? Ah, according to the manual, -Z is for >initial session setup.. and the DVD is actually readable when burned >without -Z, it's just that linux mediacheck fails. > >I really would not mind if the final release comes to one DVD and one >CD, really.. it's much preferable to have a DVD image that is >guaranteed to burn on standard media. > > > I used k3b and set "Allow Overburning" in the advance tab under Writing Settings. It works. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 22 01:33:51 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:33:51 -0400 Subject: Various computer installs and results. Message-ID: <4150D67F.9090007@sbcglobal.net> First test was with an XP guest and installing clean. The install went fine. On a reboot, the kernel did panic. Second test was an upgrade on a Dell w/ the 828656 graphics controller. All went well with this upgrade. Installing on a Rocky 3705 SBC w/ an SIS630E chipset. This installation took well. There was no problem. Next with a nova-7895 SBC. SIS 630ST chipset. The installation went without flaws also. Now, with the computer with the 815 chipset. I started to do a graphics install. I got as far as the portion where the installations were detected. I then tried to do a clean istallation. I had colored lines running across my monitor and had to alt-sysreq-b and the computer rebooted. Trying a graphics installation again. I did not even get as far as previous before the colored lines striped my monitor. alt-sysreq-b rebooted the computer. Now proceeding to do a text upgrade on one of the installations. This seems to be proceeding normally. After doing a few fresh installs, I think that the default background image makes a great representation and is a good choice. As far as the clean installations done today. All of them were allowed to automatically partition the disk and installed LVMs for volumes. This went smoothly for a fresh install. I have not inserted the radeon 7200 graphics controller to test this card yet. I plan on trying this later to see if I also get the sassar type reboot problem that was mentioned earlier. Jim -- A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- William James From lsomike at futzin.com Wed Sep 22 01:56:37 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:56:37 -0500 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <4150D67F.9090007@sbcglobal.net> References: <4150D67F.9090007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200409212056.38199.lsomike@futzin.com> On Tuesday 21 September 2004 20:33, Jim Cornette wrote: > > Now, with the computer with the 815 chipset. I started to do a > graphics install. I got as far as the portion where the > installations were detected. I then tried to do a clean > istallation. I had colored lines running across my monitor and > had to alt-sysreq-b and the computer rebooted. Trying a graphics > installation again. I did not even get as far as previous before > the colored lines striped my monitor. alt-sysreq-b rebooted the > computer. Now proceeding to do a text upgrade on one of the > installations. This seems to be proceeding normally. > Ditto on the 815 Graphic Controller. Very same symptoms so I opted for the text install and everything seems to be running fine so far using 16bit color after completion. Regards, Mike Klinke From martin at lnuxpwrd.net Wed Sep 22 01:57:02 2004 From: martin at lnuxpwrd.net (Martin) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:57:02 -0500 Subject: evolution 1.5.94 doesn't import mail from evolution 1.4.6 In-Reply-To: <1095800154.19692.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1095792952.1794.12.camel@laptop> <1095800154.19692.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095818223.8604.1.camel@laptop> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 16:55 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 13:55 -0500, Martin wrote: > > (apologies if this is a duplicate). > > > > I upgraded to FC3T2 and along with that got the 1.5.94 > > evolution. During the first launch, it didn't prompt me to import my > > 1.4.6 evolution email folders. file->import allows me to import folder > > by folder but that's going to take too long. > > > > Shouldn't it prompt me when I first use 1.5.94 to import previous > > folders and filters? > > > > I used earlier earlier version of 1.5 when it was briefly > > in rawhide earlier this year. I wonder if that's why it's not > > prompting to import old folders? > > > Run gconf-editor and have a look at /apps/evolution. You should see > keys named "last_version" and "version". I'm guessing that the > "last_version" key is already set to a value sufficiently high that > evolution decides no further importing is necessary. > > If you set "last_version" to 1.4.6 and restart evolution it should redo > the import process, though it will probably trash your ~/.evolution > along the way. > > Caveat: I haven't recently tested the above; probably worth backing up > beforehand... that did it. but i also had to set both version and last version to 1.4.6. thanks Marty From jim at jbsys.com Wed Sep 22 02:10:06 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:10:06 -0700 Subject: Install information for FC3T2 Message-ID: <00db01c4a049$477b3490$0c01a8c0@nugget> I did an update from Fedora Core 1 to FC3T3. I had a couple of problems that I had to overcome to finally get things working. The first problem was 'Error installing kdepim-3.3.0-1.i386' and the installation was aborted. I was able to boot to single user and create a missing directory that was needed for the install of kdepim. I did a mkdir /usr/share/applnk-redhat. It was being linked to and was not there. I restarted the installation and everything went OK from there. After installation the desktop and icons were hosed. There was also no sound after configuring the soundcard. It thought it was sending sound, but none was there. My biggest problem was with the kernel source. Where is it? I want to install vmware, but no source is there. Any solution for this? Thanks, Jim From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 02:45:54 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:45:54 -0400 Subject: Install information for FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <00db01c4a049$477b3490$0c01a8c0@nugget> References: <00db01c4a049$477b3490$0c01a8c0@nugget> Message-ID: <604aa79104092119457cc257f7@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:10:06 -0700, James C. Bevier wrote: > After installation the desktop and icons were hosed. Kde or gnome desktop? > My biggest problem was with the kernel source. Where is > it? I want to install vmware, but no source is there. Any solution for > this? There is no kernel-source(code) rpm any longer. Lots of discussion about that in the devel list. Here's the summary... the kernel rpms "should" now contain the extra bits to rebuild addon modules against the binary kernel provided. If you need to rebuild a full kernel tree from source you need to download the actual kernel srpm and rebuild from that. I'm pretty sure ive seen explicit instructions posted on the devel list or the test list about how to do specific things with the src.rpm. -jef From carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au Wed Sep 22 02:46:48 2004 From: carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au (Carl Gherardi) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:46:48 +0800 Subject: Evolution Wierdness - keymappings? Message-ID: <1095821208.3589.12.camel@coeus> Hey all, I've just done the latest round of updates to my test box, and i'm getting some strange results with evolution. All keystroke appear to be doing an append in the editor. (Think 'A' in vim) For example, I cannot fix the typo above in keystrokes, if I move the cursor there and enter a letter it appears at the end of the line. Looks like it has already been reported as big id 133173 Any ideas where this is coming from? Cheers Carl Gherardi -- This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NAUTRONIX LTD. If you are not the intended recipient, you have received this email in error and use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender. Although our computer systems use active virus protection software, and we take various measures to reduce the risk of viruses being transmitted in e-mail messages and attachments sent from this company, we cannot guarantee that such e-mail messages and attachments are free from viruses on receipt. It is a condition of our using e-mail to correspond with you, that any and all liability on our part arising directly or indirectly out of any virus is excluded. Please ensure that you run virus checking software on all e-mail messages and attachments before reading them. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 22 03:00:50 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:00:50 -0400 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <200409212056.38199.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <4150D67F.9090007@sbcglobal.net> <200409212056.38199.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <4150EAE2.30607@sbcglobal.net> Mike Klinke wrote: > On Tuesday 21 September 2004 20:33, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>Now, with the computer with the 815 chipset. I started to do a >>graphics install. I got as far as the portion where the >>installations were detected. I then tried to do a clean >>istallation. I had colored lines running across my monitor and >>had to alt-sysreq-b and the computer rebooted. Trying a graphics >>installation again. I did not even get as far as previous before >>the colored lines striped my monitor. alt-sysreq-b rebooted the >>computer. Now proceeding to do a text upgrade on one of the >>installations. This seems to be proceeding normally. >> > > > Ditto on the 815 Graphic Controller. Very same symptoms so I opted > for the text install and everything seems to be running fine so far > using 16bit color after completion. > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > The text install finally finished from the test installation. I'm still running 24 depth and 1280 x 1024 for the post install. I'll have to downshift to 16 at 1280 x 1024 after installing the large number of post upgrade updates from rawhide. (Newer X version) The mirrors seemed highly congested with the new testers joining in. I tried to upgrade a prevous install via up2date and ended up getting a lot of 0 byte rpm downloads, xorg was included in the 0 byte rpms. I then decided to attempt a GUI install from CD, which ended in the text upgrade. Thanks for the confirmation that the GUI install problem was not unique to my computer. I guess a bug report against the GUI installation failure is warranted. figuring out how X works post-install is the most important asect though. Jim One note about the XP host reference in the earlier posting. This was a vmware installation and only the fedora install discs were used. Then the kernel panicked when rebooting. I forgot the option needed to add to the kernel for vmware installations. I'll look up the entry later, but am in no rush to get vmware to work correctly. This was more related to my own curiousity and to test the discs before installing the real OS on this computer. -- A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- William James t From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 03:11:10 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:11:10 -0400 Subject: X configuration In-Reply-To: <200409220420.40919.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200409220420.40919.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <604aa791040921201118c4ac2e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:20:40 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > I have just installed a pre-release of FC3T2 and it didn't ask me for the > screen resolution and gave a default install of 800x600 (yuk). > > I have just started an install of FC3T2 and it gives the same result. Is it > my imagination or is this feature suddenly missing? > > I'm asking here because I can't believe that this slipped through and figure > that I must have stuffed something up somehow. I have something more bizarre. I just did an install... it asked to configure the screen resolution during firstboot but my resolution selection did do anything. I had to drop to runlevel 3 and run system-config-display and that did cause the resolution to change. -jef From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed Sep 22 03:21:28 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 05:21:28 +0200 Subject: Install information for FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <00db01c4a049$477b3490$0c01a8c0@nugget> References: <00db01c4a049$477b3490$0c01a8c0@nugget> Message-ID: <1095822300.1148.39.camel@one.myworld> Le mer 22/09/2004 ? 04:10, James C. Bevier a ?crit : > I did an update from Fedora Core 1 to FC3T3. I had a couple of problems > that I had to overcome to finally get things working. The first problem was > 'Error installing kdepim-3.3.0-1.i386' and the installation was aborted. I > was able to boot to single user and create a missing directory that was > needed for the install of kdepim. I did a mkdir /usr/share/applnk-redhat From jim at jbsys.com Wed Sep 22 03:15:38 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:15:38 -0700 Subject: Install information for FC3T2 References: <00db01c4a049$477b3490$0c01a8c0@nugget> <604aa79104092119457cc257f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001601c4a052$7b2ff740$0c01a8c0@nugget> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Spaleta" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 7:45 PM Subject: Re: Install information for FC3T2 > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:10:06 -0700, James C. Bevier wrote: > > After installation the desktop and icons were hosed. > Kde or gnome desktop? It was kde. > > > My biggest problem was with the kernel source. Where is > > it? I want to install vmware, but no source is there. Any solution for > > this? > > There is no kernel-source(code) rpm any longer. Lots of discussion > about that in the devel list. Here's the summary... the kernel rpms > "should" now contain the extra bits to rebuild addon modules against > the binary kernel provided. If you need to rebuild a full kernel tree > from source you need to download the actual kernel srpm and rebuild > from that. I'm pretty sure ive seen explicit instructions posted on > the devel list or the test list about how to do specific things with > the src.rpm. I would assume you need a new vmware that know about the new source? > > -jef > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list) > From walters at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 03:34:35 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:34:35 -0400 Subject: Evolution Wierdness - keymappings? In-Reply-To: <1095821208.3589.12.camel@coeus> References: <1095821208.3589.12.camel@coeus> Message-ID: <1095824075.5307.16.camel@nexus.verbum.private> [incidentally, the trick I've learned is to cut all the text before what you're trying to type, then type what you want, then re-paste the text before] On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:46 +0800, Carl Gherardi wrote: > Hey all, > > I've just done the latest round of updates to my test box, and i'm > getting some strange results with evolution. > > All keystroke appear to be doing an append in the editor. (Think 'A' in > vim) For example, I cannot fix the typo above in keystrokes, if I move > the cursor there and enter a letter it appears at the end of the line. > > Looks like it has already I een reported as big id 133173 > > Any ideas where this is coming from? My guess is gtkhtml, but I filed it on evolution because dhm will know best. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From mclasen at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 04:19:36 2004 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:19:36 -0400 Subject: new gtk2 package available for testing Message-ID: <1095826777.4848.1.camel@x1-6-00-50-fc-70-9f-e0.ne2.client2.attbi.com> Going to 2.4.7 with the last gtk2 update was a bad idea, since that version of GTK+ contained a brown paperbag bug corrupting thumbnails in nautilus. The gtk2-2.4.7-2.6 package which is available for testing now should fix that. Please test and report problems in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132836 Matthias From fedora at andrewfarris.com Wed Sep 22 04:48:25 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:48:25 -0700 Subject: Install information for FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <001601c4a052$7b2ff740$0c01a8c0@nugget> References: <00db01c4a049$477b3490$0c01a8c0@nugget> <604aa79104092119457cc257f7@mail.gmail.com> <001601c4a052$7b2ff740$0c01a8c0@nugget> Message-ID: <1095828505.19609.5.camel@CirithUngol> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 20:15 -0700, James C. Bevier wrote: > > > My biggest problem was with the kernel source. Where is > > > it? I want to install vmware, but no source is there. Any solution for > > > this? > > > > There is no kernel-source(code) rpm any longer. Lots of discussion > > about that in the devel list. Here's the summary... the kernel rpms > > "should" now contain the extra bits to rebuild addon modules against > > the binary kernel provided. If you need to rebuild a full kernel tree > > from source you need to download the actual kernel srpm and rebuild > > from that. I'm pretty sure ive seen explicit instructions posted on > > the devel list or the test list about how to do specific things with > > the src.rpm. > > I would assume you need a new vmware that know about the new source? You should not need anything special as long as VMware was using the sources correctly before.. however they probably were not. The sources should have been accessed from the /lib/modules//build directory, which now contains the necessary info (this used to be a symlink to the actual sources directory). Instead, they may have jumped directly to the sources at /usr/src/linux-. You'll probably have to get a fix from VMware, or rebuild your own kernel--hopefully the srpm still has the ability to generate the standard old kernel-ourcecode rpm for situations like this even though it is not generally needed. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lordmorgul on irc.freenode.net From jonathansavage at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 05:03:37 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:03:37 -0700 Subject: WEP Configuration wonky in T2? In-Reply-To: <2ad7cea104092117122dbb1c76@mail.gmail.com> References: <1095728953.9129.24.camel@coeus> <1095732050.2951.27.camel@littlePiet> <1095745266.9129.39.camel@coeus> <2ad7cea104092108553e660ca@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea104092117122dbb1c76@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad7cea104092122037a35c69a@mail.gmail.com> > > I also have issues, for example, my Cisco 350 card will _not_ connect to > > my Linksys WRT54G when WEP is enabled, but the same card will do just fine > > to that base station under Windows98 and 2000. > > > > One thing you might try is to change the authentication mode. > > > > iwconfig eth1 key open > > OR > > iwconfig eth1 key restricted > > > > Techically, "open" is Open System Authentication, and "restricted" is > > Shared Key Authentication, which ahve to be set on your access point. But > > try both modes just for kicks. Tried both, no joy. Applied today's updates (*lots*), no diff. Put in Bugzilla https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133174 (can't hurt) Bests JS From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 22 05:16:01 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: anyone able to use APM? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > > APM doesn't appear to work anymore on my Thinkpad 600E with the > current rawhide kernel-2.6.8-1.541. Don't know when the breakage > happened.. Posting bugzilla entry for this - in case anyone else is interested: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133105 (then I have acpi issues as well) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133176 Satish From notting at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 05:50:08 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:50:08 -0400 Subject: cron as normal user - changed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040922055008.GD18721@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Neal D. Becker (ndbecker2 at verizon.net) said: > Did cron change? > > crontab < crontab.nbecker > You (nbecker) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) > See crontab(1) for more information > > I don't think FC2 did this - what needs to be changed to allow it? /etc/cron.{allow,deny}, as I recall. Bill From mark.bradbury at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 06:38:33 2004 From: mark.bradbury at gmail.com (Mark Bradbury) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:08:33 +0930 Subject: kernel 2.6.8-1.584smp and Unknown symbol __VMALLOC_RESERVE Message-ID: HI I just updated my kernel to 2.6.8-1.584smp and recompiled the nvidia driver 6111 and when I try to load it I get an error nvidia: Unknown symbol __VMALLOC_RESERVE anyone else get it to work Also just gamin work ? gamin_server is running but nautilus doesn't update I have to do a refresh to see new files. Thanks From barryn at pobox.com Wed Sep 22 07:16:17 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:16:17 -0700 Subject: Reiserfs doesn't works! In-Reply-To: <41506038.6030004@streamyx.com> References: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> <41506038.6030004@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <20040922071617.GA5801@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 01:09:12AM +0800, Mazli Alias wrote: > Thanx mate...I reinstalled the moment i received your mail.It works like > a charm...but somehow it raises the reiserfs issue with selinux enable. > Is there a way to enable it back so we can have a good testing of this > (FC3Test2) release. SELinux and ReiserFS aren't going to work together until somebody changes one and/or the other so that SELinux can work properly with ReiserFS's unusual xattr implementation. I have no idea when (or if) that's going to happen. -Barry K. Nathan From fkooman at bromstraat.net Wed Sep 22 07:56:04 2004 From: fkooman at bromstraat.net (F. Kooman) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:56:04 +0200 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <4150EAE2.30607@sbcglobal.net> References: <4150D67F.9090007@sbcglobal.net> <200409212056.38199.lsomike@futzin.com> <4150EAE2.30607@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1095839763.2747.0.camel@dilithium.bromstraat.net> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 05:00, Jim Cornette wrote: > Thanks for the confirmation that the GUI install problem was not unique > to my computer. I guess a bug report against the GUI installation > failure is warranted. figuring out how X works post-install is the most > important asect though. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133010 Fran?ois -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 22 08:30:32 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:30:32 +0100 Subject: FC3T2 Evolution Memory Hog In-Reply-To: <1095789841.6459.15.camel@cei3544> References: <1095789841.6459.15.camel@cei3544> Message-ID: <1095841832.9164.0.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, > I'm seeing Evolution use 201 MB of RAM after fresh install of FC3T2 > according to system monitor. System is sluggish. > Anyone else seeing that. Yes. Greatly. Plus it has slowed to a snails pace again. It's not down to SpamAssassin either. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 22 08:56:38 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:56:38 +0100 Subject: FC3T2 Evolution Memory Hog In-Reply-To: <1095790489.16613.6.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1095789841.6459.15.camel@cei3544> <1095790489.16613.6.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095843398.9164.10.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, > > I'm seeing Evolution use 201 MB of RAM after fresh install of FC3T2 > > according to system monitor. System is sluggish. > > Anyone else seeing that. > Works OK for me (though I'm running evolution-2.0.0-2, rather than > evolution-1.5.94.1-1) I did a fresh install of FC3t2 and Evolution has slowed to almost dead stop. > What accounts do you have set up? (for email, calendar, tasks, and > contacts) Quite a lot of contacts, 3 email accounts, quite a few filters, no tasks and nothing on the calendar. SA switched off and the internal spam settings disabled. Same machine using another email client, everything down like a shot - even with SA on. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dcbw at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 09:55:38 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 05:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Status of OOo 1.1.2-5 Message-ID: Ok, so you all know its coming, you just don't know when. Well, it turns out that in between the time that I got the final package building on my workstation and the time I shoved it off to the build system (considerable time difference since OOo takes about 7 hours to build), a change to glibc that aborts a program when it double-frees some memory is causing the OOo build to fail. Thankfully, the failure occurs fairly early in the build process, but unfortunately the tool that fails is really nasty 12 year old code. So I have no clue how long it will be until an updated OOo hits Rawhide and FC3. By the time that it gets done, there will probably be an OOo 1.1.3 upstream, but I'll build that after 1.1.2-5. Dan From bavinic at comcast.net Wed Sep 22 11:21:39 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:21:39 -0400 Subject: Up2date errors Message-ID: <41516043.2010302@comcast.net> Greetings, I did 3 installs of FC3t2 , all went without problems. I did complete installs on 3 machines. however, up2date tells me there are updates available on all 3 machines, and when I try to do the updates I get this error on all : Unresolvable chain of dependencies: gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++ = 3.4.1 gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++-devel = 3.4.1 gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires libgfortran = 3.5.0-0.9 gnome-bluetooth 0.5.1-3 requires libopenobex-1.0.so.0 iiimf-le-newpy-12.0.1-3.svn1891 requires iiimf-server = 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 iiimf-le-sun-chinese-12.0.1-3.svn1891 requires iiimf-server = 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 iiimf-le-sun-korea-12.0.1-3.svn1891 requires iiimf-server = 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp requires libgcj = 3.4.1 libbtctl 0.4.1-1 requires libopenobex-1.0.so.0 openobex-apps 1.0.0-4 requires libopenobex-1.0.so.0 openobex-apps-1.0.0-4 requires openobex = 0:1.0.0 Is there a fix for this? I tried doing a manual yum update, but get pretty much the same error. thank you, BaVinic From momendo at yahoo.com Wed Sep 22 11:28:27 2004 From: momendo at yahoo.com (Joe) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Random reboots with i8xx_tco module on Intel i8xx motherboards Message-ID: <20040922112827.84665.qmail@web60604.mail.yahoo.com> RANDOM REBOOTS I can confirm this bug. It occurs with the stock FC3Test2 kernel and the latest kernel. It boots midway or sometimes all the way to the Gnome desktop, then mysteriously reboots without warning. By removing the i8xx_tco module with "rmmod i8xx_tco" as Colin suggested below, the system no longer reboots. I'd say this is a fatal bug for i8xx based Intel motherboards. Motherboard Gigabyte GA-8IEXP / i845e chipset Kernel 2.6.8-1.584 FC3-Test2 Updated as of Sep 22, 2004 Joe ========================= Finally giving x86 Rawhide a go (refreshing after lots of PPC?), I got the tree from 0911, and popped in on a box with the GIGABYTE '8I845GVM-RZ' i845GV No glory for me, as the box kept on rebooting in the starting stages - this means it stayed on for >60s but died <120s So, the new workaround is: * boot into single user mode * rmmod i8xx_tco * Ctrl+d * Enjoy Rawhide Is anyone else noticing these problems? Bugzilla seems rather silent about this... -- Colin Charles, byte aeon com my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 22 11:34:23 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:34:23 -0400 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <1095839763.2747.0.camel@dilithium.bromstraat.net> References: <4150D67F.9090007@sbcglobal.net> <200409212056.38199.lsomike@futzin.com> <4150EAE2.30607@sbcglobal.net> <1095839763.2747.0.camel@dilithium.bromstraat.net> Message-ID: <4151633F.8020207@sbcglobal.net> F. Kooman wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 05:00, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Thanks for the confirmation that the GUI install problem was not unique >>to my computer. I guess a bug report against the GUI installation >>failure is warranted. figuring out how X works post-install is the most >>important asect though. > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133010 > > Fran?ois That is the bug which is experienced on my attampts also. I didn't attempt to specify the screen resolution given to the installer before the installer launches. One suggestion was to specify 800 x 600 resolution beforehand, I might look at how to specify this to the installer and try a 1280 x 1024 @ 24 depth just to see what happens. I think that 800 x 600 should be default behavior for the installer without needing to specify this to the installer. I added to the report also. Jim From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed Sep 22 11:34:24 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: python exception trying to reuse LVM partitioning Message-ID: yesterday, i started an FC3t2 install on a little latitude laptop, and formatted the single drive as a couple physical volumes, and various logical volumes within. part of it: LV "system": /tmp 256M (LV name "tmp") /var 256M (LV name "var") and so on. nothing fancy, your basic /, /usr and so on LVs. the installation was partway through when the NFS server serving the ISO images was shut down. bummer. so i came in this morning, started over from scratch (NFS server was running again), got all the way up to manually partitioning with disk druid and, of course, the LVM partitioning was still there from the day before. the LVs were still there, but they had obviously lost the idea of their own mount point, so i figured, maybe i can just double click on each LV, an edit window will come up, i can add the mount point back in and the fact that it should be formatted. nothing to lose, i figured. so i double clicked on the "tmp" entry in the "Disk Setup" window ... and got a python exception traceback. just copying from the display manually, the traceback routine list is: self.editCb() self.editLVMVolumeGroup(vgrequest) ... now, even if i can't reuse the LVM partitioning *that* way (by double clicking on each LV and restoring the missing info), i'm pretty sure i shouldn't get a traceback. surely there's a more graceful response to this, no? thoughts? rday From cylon at streamyx.com Wed Sep 22 11:42:44 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:42:44 +0800 Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: <41516043.2010302@comcast.net> References: <41516043.2010302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <41516534.50102@streamyx.com> Jim Martin wrote: > Greetings, > I did 3 installs of FC3t2 , all went without problems. I did complete > installs on 3 machines. however, up2date tells me there are updates > available on all 3 machines, and when I try to do the updates I get > this error on all : > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++ = 3.4.1 > gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++-devel = 3.4.1 > gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires libgfortran = 3.5.0-0.9 > gnome-bluetooth 0.5.1-3 requires libopenobex-1.0.so.0 > iiimf-le-newpy-12.0.1-3.svn1891 requires iiimf-server = > 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 > iiimf-le-sun-chinese-12.0.1-3.svn1891 requires iiimf-server = > 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 > iiimf-le-sun-korea-12.0.1-3.svn1891 requires iiimf-server = > 1:12.0.1-3.svn1891 > java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp requires libgcj = 3.4.1 > libbtctl 0.4.1-1 requires libopenobex-1.0.so.0 > openobex-apps 1.0.0-4 requires libopenobex-1.0.so.0 > openobex-apps-1.0.0-4 requires openobex = 0:1.0.0 > > Is there a fix for this? I tried doing a manual yum update, but get > pretty much the same error. > > thank you, > > BaVinic > > Same goes with me. From ps at ps.kicks-ass.org Wed Sep 22 12:20:02 2004 From: ps at ps.kicks-ass.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Juan_Jos=E9_Guti=E9rrez_de_Quevedo?=) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:20:02 +0200 Subject: Random reboots with i8xx_tco module on Intel i8xx motherboards In-Reply-To: <20040922112827.84665.qmail@web60604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040922112827.84665.qmail@web60604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41516DF2.7060001@ps.kicks-ass.org> Joe wrote: > RANDOM REBOOTS > > I can confirm this bug. It occurs with the stock > FC3Test2 kernel and the latest kernel. It boots midway > or sometimes all the way to the Gnome desktop, then > mysteriously reboots without warning. By removing the > i8xx_tco module with "rmmod i8xx_tco" as Colin > suggested below, the system no longer reboots. I'd say > this is a fatal bug for i8xx based Intel motherboards. > it's also happening to me. It first happened with FC3t2, but after upgrading my gentoo box *AND* installing hotplug it started happening there also. It has nothing to do with hotplug, just that hotplug started loading the module(I don't remeber having used it before but I can't tell for sure) so I guess it's just a kernel thing. > Motherboard > Gigabyte GA-8IEXP / i845e chipset > > Kernel 2.6.8-1.584 I don't know the name of my MB, but it's also using the i845 chipset -- Juan Jos? Guti?rrez de Quevedo http://www.iteisa.com - Dise?o web en Cantabria From rodd at clarkson.id.au Wed Sep 22 12:22:55 2004 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:22:55 +1000 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. Message-ID: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm just wondering what happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPMs. I know that the source code can be found in the kernel-SRPMS package, but I really appreciated having a package to installed the source code where it was expected to be (/usr/src/kernel) and am a little lost as to why the package seems to have been removed. Rodd -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel From mark.bradbury at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 12:33:07 2004 From: mark.bradbury at gmail.com (Mark Bradbury) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:03:07 +0930 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:22:55 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > I'm just wondering what happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPMs. > > I know that the source code can be found in the kernel-SRPMS package, > but I really appreciated having a package to installed the source code > where it was expected to be (/usr/src/kernel) and am a little lost as to > why the package seems to have been removed. > > Rodd I'm with you, I think its stupid not to have the source patched to the current kernel on hand. I used it all the time to find bugs. I hope that common sense will prevail and the kernel-source rpm returns From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Sep 22 12:35:32 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:35:32 -0400 Subject: kernel root= option ignored? Message-ID: I'm trying to boot with root=/dev/hda3, on my parallel ide, but the option is being ignored. Sep 22 08:24:03 rpppc1 kernel: Linux version 2.6.8-1.541 (bhcompile at porky.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.1 20040831 (Red Hat 3.4.1-10)) #1 Wed Sep 1 18:01:20 EDT 2004 ... Sep 22 08:24:03 rpppc1 kernel: Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/hda3 rhgb ... mount /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on / type ext3 (rw) That's my lvm array, on sda/sdb that got mounted on root. From mhaney at interactsys.com Wed Sep 22 12:38:42 2004 From: mhaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:38:42 -0400 Subject: Kernel panic Message-ID: <1095856721.3018.22.camel@marius.asheville.interact> I just finished an FTP install of fc2t3 and upon reboot of the system here's what I get: No Volume Groups Found No Volume Groups Found No Volume Groups Found mount: error 2 mounting ext3 mount: error 2 mounting none switchroot: mount failed:22 umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! I'm new to the whole Volume Groups thing, I pretty much took the defaults on partitioning, etc. Did I setup something wrong? BTW, this was installed in VMWare 4.5.2. -------------------------------------- Mark Haney Network Administrator InterAct Public Safety Systems mhaney at interactsys.com Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 08:34:31 up 44 min, 1 user, load average: 0.70, 1.09, 0.72 From pza at pza.net.au Wed Sep 22 12:53:54 2004 From: pza at pza.net.au (Phil Anderson) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:53:54 +1000 Subject: Random reboots with i8xx_tco module on Intel i8xx Message-ID: <20040922125354.GA4226@harry.pza.net.au> I'm getting this as well. My first attempt at upgrading from FC2->Rawhide caused random reboots. That was with 2.6.8-541. I'm almost 100% sure that it also happened with the 2.6.8-521 kernel from FC2 as well (it was still installed after the yum update), but only after the yum update to rawhide. I just did a fresh install of FC3t2 and it happened there as well. dd'ing my / back to FC2 as we speak. I'm using a Gigabyte 8IPE1000 Pro which has an i845 chipset (i think). Phil --- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk we go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O. From NaveR at fidelitytech.com Wed Sep 22 12:56:34 2004 From: NaveR at fidelitytech.com (Nave, Ronald) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:56:34 -0400 Subject: FC3 test2 Message-ID: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE397276@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> I was able to down load and burn the ISO disks for FC3- test2 with out any difficulty. I did an upgrade install on top of FC3-test1 without difficulty on a Pentium III system. However, when I rebooted , the NVIDIA-linux-x86-6111 driver did not load and X would not start. It is still necessary to re-install the NVIDIA driver each time the system is rebooted. This problem first appeared about 2 weeks ago after running a yum upgrade on FC3-test 1. Also this morning I got a kernel panic when I started. However, it appears that some how my bios was altered to attempt to boot from the network card. After disabling this option, the system restarted without additional problems. From bavinic at comcast.net Wed Sep 22 13:09:25 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:09:25 -0400 Subject: FC3 test2 In-Reply-To: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE397276@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> References: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE397276@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> Message-ID: <41517985.6040603@comcast.net> You will need to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit in the section: echo -n $"Initializing hardware... " ide="" scsi="" network="" audio="" other="nvidia" <-- add this and the nvidia driver module will load at startup. However, if you have upgraded to 2.6.8-1.584 kernel, the 6111 driver does not install. BaVinic Nave, Ronald wrote: >I was able to down load and burn the ISO disks for FC3- test2 with out any >difficulty. > >I did an upgrade install on top of FC3-test1 without difficulty on a Pentium >III system. > >However, when I rebooted , the NVIDIA-linux-x86-6111 driver did not load and >X would not start. > >It is still necessary to re-install the NVIDIA driver each time the system >is rebooted. > >This problem first appeared about 2 weeks ago after running a yum upgrade >on FC3-test 1. > >Also this morning I got a kernel panic when I started. However, it appears >that some how my bios was >altered to attempt to boot from the network card. After disabling this >option, the system restarted >without additional problems. > > > > > From maestronn at wowway.com Wed Sep 22 13:12:29 2004 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:12:29 -0400 Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: <41516043.2010302@comcast.net> References: <41516043.2010302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <41517A3D.90000@wowway.com> Jim Martin wrote: > Greetings, > I did 3 installs of FC3t2 , all went without problems. I did complete > installs on 3 machines. however, up2date tells me there are updates > available on all 3 machines, and when I try to do the updates I get > this error on all : > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++ = 3.4.1 > gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++-devel = 3.4.1 > gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires libgfortran = 3.5.0-0.9 gcc35 packages should be removed replaced with gcc4 packages From otaylor at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 13:22:59 2004 From: otaylor at redhat.com (Owen Taylor) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:22:59 -0400 Subject: Evolution Wierdness - keymappings? In-Reply-To: <1095821208.3589.12.camel@coeus> References: <1095821208.3589.12.camel@coeus> Message-ID: <1095859379.32109.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:46 +0800, Carl Gherardi wrote: > Hey all, > > I've just done the latest round of updates to my test box, and i'm > getting some strange results with evolution. > > All keystroke appear to be doing an append in the editor. (Think 'A' in > vim) For example, I cannot fix the typo above in keystrokes, if I move > the cursor there and enter a letter it appears at the end of the line. > > Looks like it has already been reported as big id 133173 > > Any ideas where this is coming from? Presumably, it's the problem resulting from the first patch in bug 130751, basically an uninitialized variable usage problem. Should be fixed as of gtkhtml3-3.3.2-3, testing would be appreciated. Regards, Owen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How do I replace it with gcc4? I would think that all packages and dependents should have been upgraded to use gcc3.5 (and gcc3.5 shipped) OR all packages and dependents should be downgraded to gcc3.4 From cylon at streamyx.com Wed Sep 22 14:36:52 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:36:52 +0800 Subject: System-config-soundcard? Message-ID: <41518E04.3080504@streamyx.com> Problem when running/ system-config-soundcard/. It just didn't get through. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/system-config-soundcard.py", line 46, in ? app = soundcard.childWindow() File "/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcard.py", line 87, in __init__ self.device, self.module, self.maker, self.model = self.soundcardBackend.getData(card) File "/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcardBackend.py", line 98, in getData maker, model = string.split(description, "|") ValueError: unpack list of wrong size From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 15:29:27 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:29:27 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Evolution Memory Hog In-Reply-To: <1095843398.9164.10.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1095789841.6459.15.camel@cei3544> <1095790489.16613.6.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1095843398.9164.10.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1095866967.4510.19.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 09:56 +0100, PFJ wrote: > Hi, > > > > I'm seeing Evolution use 201 MB of RAM after fresh install of FC3T2 > > > according to system monitor. System is sluggish. > > > Anyone else seeing that. > > Works OK for me (though I'm running evolution-2.0.0-2, rather than > > evolution-1.5.94.1-1) > > I did a fresh install of FC3t2 and Evolution has slowed to almost dead > stop. > > > What accounts do you have set up? (for email, calendar, tasks, and > > contacts) > > Quite a lot of contacts, 3 email accounts, quite a few filters, no tasks > and nothing on the calendar. SA switched off and the internal spam > settings disabled. How much memory is Evolution taking up? (i.e. is it excessive memory usage that's causing the slowdown for you?) Are the contacts all local, or are you using LDAP/Exchange servers? etc What kind of email accounts - IMAP, POP, mbox? etc How big are your inboxes? If you selectively enable/disable the accounts, can you isolate what's causing slowdown/memory usage, or is it a general problem? We probably should take this to bugzilla. > > Same machine using another email client, everything down like a shot - > even with SA on. > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Wed Sep 22 15:35:58 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:35:58 +0200 Subject: System-config-soundcard? In-Reply-To: <41518E04.3080504@streamyx.com> References: <41518E04.3080504@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <1095867358.26478.46.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Am Mi, den 22.09.2004 schrieb Mazli Alias um 16:36: > Problem when running/ system-config-soundcard/. It just didn't get through. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-September/msg00764.html Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp Serendipity 17:35:42 up 1 day, 19:39, load average: 1.82, 1.73, 1.70 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From mailinglists at andreas-mueller.com Wed Sep 22 15:47:21 2004 From: mailinglists at andreas-mueller.com (Andreas Mueller) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:47:21 +0200 Subject: python exception trying to reuse LVM partitioning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200409221747.21821.mailinglists@andreas-mueller.com> Robert P. J. Day wrote: [snip] > so i double clicked on the "tmp" entry in the "Disk Setup" window > ... and got a python exception traceback. just copying from the > display manually, the traceback routine list is: > > self.editCb() > self.editLVMVolumeGroup(vgrequest) > ... > > now, even if i can't reuse the LVM partitioning *that* way (by > double clicking on each LV and restoring the missing info), i'm > pretty sure i shouldn't get a traceback. surely there's a more > graceful response to this, no? > > thoughts? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132217 Should be fixed in CVS/Rawhide. Regards, Andreas From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 15:49:39 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:49:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > I did 3 installs of FC3t2 , all went without problems. I did complete > > > installs on 3 machines. however, up2date tells me there are updates > > > available on all 3 machines, and when I try to do the updates I get > > > this error on all : > > > > > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > > > gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++ = 3.4.1 > > > gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++-devel = > 3.4.1 > > > gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires libgfortran = > 3.5.0-0.9 > > > > gcc35 packages should be removed replaced with gcc4 packages > > Does this mean to say, that _I_ should remove gcc35? > Who should remove it? How? > How do I replace it with gcc4? Try up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ etc. which will > I would think that all packages and dependents should have > been upgraded to use gcc3.5 (and gcc3.5 shipped) > > OR > > all packages and dependents should be downgraded to gcc3.4 gcc35 was a preview package for the next gcc release currently still in development. However the gcc developers decided their next version would be 4.0, hence the new gcc4 packages. The main gcc for FC3, called gcc, will be version 3.4. Probably the gcc35 and gcc4 packages are linked against some of the libraries from the main gcc package set as they are sufficiently similar. Michael Young From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Sep 22 16:36:01 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:36:01 +0100 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 September 2004 13:33, Mark Bradbury wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:22:55 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > I'm just wondering what happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPMs. > > > > I know that the source code can be found in the kernel-SRPMS package, > > but I really appreciated having a package to installed the source code > > where it was expected to be (/usr/src/kernel) and am a little lost as to > > why the package seems to have been removed. > > > > Rodd > > I'm with you, I think its stupid not to have the source patched to the > current kernel on hand. I used it all the time to find bugs. > I hope that common sense will prevail and the kernel-source rpm returns There is now a SRPM for the kernel sources, eg, http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm However, I tried to patch the kernel using this and retired baffled from the field. I ended up having to patch a vanilla 2.6.8 kernel from kernel.org :-( I used to be able to patch the redhat sources just fine by hand from a kernel-source RPM, so I also agree things have gone backwards. I suggested before someone knock up a howto or some document describing the new system and how to emulate the old behaviours but AFAIK it is not in existence. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBUan1jKeDCxMJCTIRAljHAJ0dRF+K8Ca0gltxq+OyDh04j5FAbwCfQRAT UTxuM6GxhHRPnZm19h8DU8k= =/F2x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From michal at harddata.com Wed Sep 22 16:54:29 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:54:29 -0600 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com>; from fedora@warmcat.com on Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 05:36:01PM +0100 References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040922105429.A26298@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 05:36:01PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > > There is now a SRPM for the kernel sources, eg, > > http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm It always was. Nothing changed here from the first distribution which used an rpm packaging. > However, I tried to patch the kernel using this and retired baffled from the > field. How did you try to do that? A correct way, if you really need patched sources and not just data in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build which most likely you are really after, is to install that src.rpm with 'rpm -i ...' followed by 'rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec' in your SPECS directory. You will end up with properly patched sources in your BUILD. This was already discussed on this list a few times including explanations how not to use a 'root' account for this. Michal From arjanv at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 16:56:51 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:56:51 +0200 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 18:36, Andy Green wrote: > There is now a SRPM for the kernel sources, eg, > > http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm > > However, I tried to patch the kernel using this and retired baffled from the > field. I ended up having to patch a vanilla 2.6.8 kernel from > kernel.org :-( I used to be able to patch the redhat sources just fine by > hand from a kernel-source RPM, so I also agree things have gone backwards. I > suggested before someone knock up a howto or some document describing the new > system and how to emulate the old behaviours but AFAIK it is not in > existence. rpm -i kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm rpmbuild -bp --target noarch /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec and the sourcecode will end up in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Sep 22 17:22:39 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:22:39 +0100 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <200409221822.42776.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 September 2004 17:56, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > rpm -i kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm > rpmbuild -bp --target noarch /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec > > and the sourcecode will end up in > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD So this is pretty much an emulation of the old kernel-source RPM? Cool! Going to give it a try tonight. Thanks. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBUbTijKeDCxMJCTIRAsd9AJ48NKlNmuAmu69+DtHC+cDmiNmxHACfYVSm MMPYkpQydYaN8wxhTN4WJLY= =BM5L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed Sep 22 17:16:41 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: more convenient place for release notes? Message-ID: from earlier posts, it seems that the canonical place to find the release notes is just at a download site by digging waaaaay down to the "os/" directory. wouldn't it make more sense to have something this useful at a prominent place at fedora.redhat.com? like, say, on the main page? right now, there's a short blurb there entitled "Fedora Core 3 Test 2 Available". wouldn't this be a fine place for a link to the release notes? rday From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Sep 22 17:41:32 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:41:32 -0400 Subject: cron as normal user - changed? References: <20040922055008.GD18721@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Bill Nottingham wrote: > Neal D. Becker (ndbecker2 at verizon.net) said: >> Did cron change? >> >> crontab < crontab.nbecker >> You (nbecker) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) >> See crontab(1) for more information >> >> I don't think FC2 did this - what needs to be changed to allow it? > > /etc/cron.{allow,deny}, as I recall. > > Bill > > I did not have any /etc/cron.{allow,deny} under FC2, and it was working then. From gstool at earthlink.net Wed Sep 22 17:46:51 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:46:51 -0500 Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4151BA8B.1020806@earthlink.net> M A Young wrote: >On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > > >>>>Greetings, >>>>I did 3 installs of FC3t2 , all went without problems. I did complete >>>>installs on 3 machines. however, up2date tells me there are updates >>>>available on all 3 machines, and when I try to do the updates I get >>>>this error on all : >>>> >>>>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>>>gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++ = 3.4.1 >>>>gcc35-c++-3.5.0-0.9 requires libstdc++-devel = >>>> >>>> >>3.4.1 >> >> >>>>gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires libgfortran = >>>> >>>> >>3.5.0-0.9 >> >> >>>gcc35 packages should be removed replaced with gcc4 packages >>> >>> >>Does this mean to say, that _I_ should remove gcc35? >>Who should remove it? How? >>How do I replace it with gcc4? >> >> >Try >up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ etc. >which will > > > That doesn't solve the dependency problem: [root at gstpc gerry]# up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide using mirror: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... Fetching rpm headers... ######################################## Name Version Rel ---------------------------------------------------------- gcc4 4.0.0 0.2 i386 gcc4-c++ 4.0.0 0.2 i386 Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires gcc35 = 3.5.0-0.9 java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp requires libgcj = 3.4.1 Any other suggestions? There are a lot of packages caught in dependency issues in rawhide. Gerry From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Sep 22 18:05:10 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:05:10 -0400 Subject: subversion problem after FC3T2 update Message-ID: After updating FC2 -> FC3T2, I'm having trouble with subversion. I think all of my apache config is updated correctly. svn commit IIR.H -m "" Sending IIR.H Transmitting file data .svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: MERGE request failed on '/svn/repos/shannon2/src' svn: MERGE of '/svn/repos/shannon2/src': 401 Authorization Required (http://localhost) Nothing very interesting in logs, except for: [Wed Sep 22 14:04:04 2004] [warn] [client 127.0.0.1] [mod_auth_pgsql.c] - missing configuration parameters Not sure if that is significant (I don't use mod_auth_pgsql) From bavinic at comcast.net Wed Sep 22 18:23:42 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:23:42 -0400 Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: <4151BA8B.1020806@earthlink.net> References: <4151BA8B.1020806@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4151C32E.4010303@comcast.net> I don't understand, how can some of us being having this problem, and not all? I did 3 installs, all with everything. but yet, none of my machines can get these updates with out erroring out. I don't think upgrading gcc is going to fix the problem ( as shown below) can anyone tell me why we are having this problem? and if possible, a way to solve it? thank you, BaVinic >> > That doesn't solve the dependency problem: > [root at gstpc gerry]# up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > using mirror: > http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > > Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... > > Fetching rpm headers... > ######################################## > > Name Version Rel > ---------------------------------------------------------- > gcc4 4.0.0 > 0.2 i386 > gcc4-c++ 4.0.0 > 0.2 i386 > > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires gcc35 = 3.5.0-0.9 > java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp requires libgcj = 3.4.1 > > Any other suggestions? There are a lot of packages caught in > dependency issues in rawhide. > > Gerry > > From gmccague at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 18:52:19 2004 From: gmccague at gmail.com (Gordon McCague) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:52:19 -0700 Subject: Trouble booting off the FC3 CDs - Kernel Panic Message-ID: I have an NForce2 motherboard (with SATA) and when I boot from the FC3 CDs it goes into a kernel panic. I downloaded the files with Bittorrent and burned multiple CDRs with mulitple software types (even Nero) to make sure I had the images burned properly. I am now downloading the images via FTP but wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this behaviour. Thanks! -- Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed Sep 22 18:49:45 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: some questions regarding FC3t2 release notes Message-ID: (repost of what was sent to anaconda list since it mostly involved installation.) reading the FC3t2 release notes, some curiosities: 1) "The disk space requirements listed below represent the disk space taken up by Fedora Core 2.91 Test 2 after the installation is complete. However, additional disk space is required during the installation to support the installation environment. This additional disk space corresponds to the size of /Fedora/base/stage2.img (on CD-ROM 1) plus the size of the files in /var/lib/rpm on the installed system." this suggests that the stage2.img file is copied to the hard drive during the installation, so that makes sense. but i don't understand why the stuff under /var/lib/rpm would be considered an "additional" space requirement above and beyond the regular install. it's all still there after the installation is complete. can someone clarify why the contents of /var/lib/rpm would be considered an "additional" space requirement? 2) i could have sworn that someone posted that SELinux was disabled by default during the install, but during my install, it was definitely activated, and i had to manually turn it off. 3) "Memory testing may be performed prior to installing Fedora Core by entering memtest86 at the boot: prompt. This causes the Memtest86 standalone memory testing software to run. Memtest86 memory testing continues until the Esc key is pressed." "NOTE: You must boot from CD-ROM 1 (or a rescue CD-ROM) in order to use this feature." um ... i'm pretty sure memtest is also part of boot.iso and diskboot.img, no? the way the above is worded is a bit misleading. 4) regarding space required for installation: "... Minimum for graphical: 192MB ..." "... However, due to the necessity of containing the installer image in RAM, only systems with more than 128MB of RAM (or systems booted from CD-ROM 1, which contains the installer image) can use the graphical installer." and the correct minimum value would be ... ? more later as i keep reading. rday From norman.zhang at rd.arkonnetworks.com Wed Sep 22 18:56:38 2004 From: norman.zhang at rd.arkonnetworks.com (Norman Zhang) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:56:38 -0700 Subject: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size Message-ID: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> Hi, I'm trying to download FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso. Is the size suppose to be 380.7MB? Regards, Norman From vadim at overture.com Wed Sep 22 18:58:49 2004 From: vadim at overture.com (Vadim Israilevich) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:58:49 -0700 Subject: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size In-Reply-To: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> References: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> Message-ID: <70769F46-0CC9-11D9-B457-000D93ADF68A@overture.com> Of course not. You're getting partial download. -V On Sep 22, 2004, at 11:56 AM, Norman Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to download FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso. Is the size suppose to > be 380.7MB? > > Regards, > Norman > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From norman.zhang at rd.arkonnetworks.com Wed Sep 22 19:07:57 2004 From: norman.zhang at rd.arkonnetworks.com (Norman Zhang) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:07:57 -0700 Subject: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size In-Reply-To: <70769F46-0CC9-11D9-B457-000D93ADF68A@overture.com> References: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> <70769F46-0CC9-11D9-B457-000D93ADF68A@overture.com> Message-ID: <4151CD8D.2010200@rd.arkonnetworks.com> Thanks. I was trying to get, http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/iso/FC2-i386-DVD.iso Now I'm trying to download ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. Regards, Norman > Of course not. You're getting partial download. > >> I'm trying to download FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso. Is the size suppose to >> be 380.7MB? From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed Sep 22 19:04:02 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: release notes section on fonts for FC3t2 Message-ID: not having had to mess with fonts so far, i'm curious about why the release notes seem adamant that, with the new fontconfig font scheme, you would have to add personal font files into the ~/.fonts directory when you'd have to run "fc-cache" anyway, and fc-cache takes the directory name as an argument. doesn't that suggest you can add those font files anywhere, as long as you run fc-cache appropriately? just curious. rday p.s. i did note that (at least on my FC2 system, FC3t2 system is still installing so it might not be the same there), the man page for fc-cache suggests to "SEE ALSO: fontconfig(3)". there is no such man page (although, as i said, this is what i'm reading on my FC2 system, so it might very well have changed for FC3t2. i just can't check that for about the next 1/2 hour.) From reader at newsguy.com Wed Sep 22 18:43:42 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:43:42 -0500 Subject: FC3t2 on older laptop hardware Message-ID: The good news is that FC3t2 installed without any problems on my toshiba 4005CDS (circa 1998). I couldn't get installed using burned isos although the same ones worked on a desktop. However after burning the boot.iso and choosing and ftp install, it all went on down smooth as silk. This machine has only 96mb of ram and 233 mhz of cpu.. That is not enough for FC3t2 in full gui I don't think. I'm noticing loading the gnome or kde desktop is really a chore. Almost feels like I'll see smoke rising ... it seems to be working so hard. This machine is a dual booter that has had winxp win2k and win98 installed... now running win2k on the other partition. What is a little disconcerting here is that the win2k and winxp when it was installed showed considerably more pep loading the desktop or the browser and other heavily gui chores. I'm a long time linux user and am used to linux being faster than the `other' os's. I think we are seeing a sort of bloatation coming on due to peoples desire for heavily gui stuff. But then again... At least I'm comfortable at the cmdline so probably won't use the linux gui unless I really need it. Its kind of sad though to see the passing of linux the lean mean fighting machine. Especially when a full featured microsoft product is able to out proform a full featured Fedora on lesser hardware. Just my observation of course, I have'nt bench tested or done any really scientific comparison, but a huge delay getting logged into X while the desktop takes form is definitely considerably slower than the same process on win2k and winxp on this particular machine. Starting a terminal ... again a major pause. Browser... even worse. From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 19:21:22 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:21:22 -0400 Subject: some questions regarding FC3t2 release notes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa791040922122116ea4da6@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:49:45 -0400 (EDT), Robert P. J. Day wrote: > 2) i could have sworn that someone posted that SELinux was disabled by default > during the install, but during my install, it was definitely activated, and i > had to manually turn it off. No selinux using targetted policy is on by default on fc3t2... in fact there is a thread in the lists where community were asked to re-enable selinux if they had explicitly disabled it previously, before doing an upgrade to fc3t2 to test the new targetted default policy. Why are you turning it off? The new targetted policy needs testing. -jef From russell at coker.com.au Wed Sep 22 19:27:48 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 05:27:48 +1000 Subject: kernel root= option ignored? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200409230527.48530.russell@coker.com.au> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:35, "Neal D. Becker" wrote: > I'm trying to boot with root=/dev/hda3, on my parallel ide, but the option > is being ignored. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133236 -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From ba at linuxin.dk Wed Sep 22 19:29:23 2004 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:29:23 +0200 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <1095881363.6652.4.camel@Mars> Hi How is it possible to build the Nvidia driver agaist the kernel.src? It fails for mee. Is the Nvidia driver the only way to test the option "RenderAccel" "on" funktion in Xorg? Why is the kernel-sourcecode left out? /Bjorn ons, 22 09 2004 kl. 18:56 +0200, skrev Arjan van de Ven: > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 18:36, Andy Green wrote: > > There is now a SRPM for the kernel sources, eg, > > > > http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm > > > > However, I tried to patch the kernel using this and retired baffled from the > > field. I ended up having to patch a vanilla 2.6.8 kernel from > > kernel.org :-( I used to be able to patch the redhat sources just fine by > > hand from a kernel-source RPM, so I also agree things have gone backwards. I > > suggested before someone knock up a howto or some document describing the new > > system and how to emulate the old behaviours but AFAIK it is not in > > existence. > > rpm -i kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm > rpmbuild -bp --target noarch /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec > > and the sourcecode will end up in > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From arjanv at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 19:31:55 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:31:55 +0200 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: <1095881363.6652.4.camel@Mars> References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1095881363.6652.4.camel@Mars> Message-ID: <20040922193155.GF7747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:29:23PM +0200, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > Hi > > How is it possible to build the Nvidia driver agaist the kernel.src? No. Nor can you build it against kernel-sourcecode for that matter. You can only build against the headers in /lib/modules/`uname `r/build, just like it was the case ever since RHL 7.0. (except that now the cheat of using another location no longer works) > Why is the kernel-sourcecode left out? because it is redundant and mostly pointless. We don't ship openoffice-source code either, right? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please open a bugzilla about this. Also if anyone has seen this without using VMware then please make a note on the bug report. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From akabi at speakeasy.net Wed Sep 22 19:42:30 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size In-Reply-To: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> References: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> Message-ID: On Sep 22, 2004 at 11:56, Norman Zhang in a soothing rage wrote: >Hi, > >I'm trying to download FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso. Is the size suppose to be > 380.7MB? No and it isn't. Not all software is able to display the file size correctly. This is a known problem with some versions of Apache. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 A day without sunshine is like night. 15:40:22 up 86 days, 8:55, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From gmccague at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 19:57:31 2004 From: gmccague at gmail.com (Gordon McCague) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:57:31 -0700 Subject: Regarding DVD Size Message-ID: The file I downloaded yesterday from Limestone was 2GB. I'm now using wget in WinXP which is reporting a 389MB file size. I think this is a limitation of FTP. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Norman Zhang To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:07:57 -0700 Subject: Re: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size Thanks. I was trying to get, http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/iso/FC2-i386-DVD.iso Now I'm trying to download ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. Regards, Norman > Of course not. You're getting partial download. > >> I'm trying to download FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso. Is the size suppose to >> be 380.7MB? -- Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 From gmccague at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 20:01:11 2004 From: gmccague at gmail.com (Gordon McCague) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:01:11 -0700 Subject: FC3: Correction to my DVD Download Comments Message-ID: Correction! It looks like the limitation resides with using a web browser to download the files (FireFox and wget). The file size is reported correctly when I use a command line FTP utility and is coming down fine. I am performing the download at work with Windows XP which could be part of the problem. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Norman Zhang To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:07:57 -0700 Subject: Re: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size Thanks. I was trying to get, http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/iso/FC2-i386-DVD.iso Now I'm trying to download ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. Regards, Norman > Of course not. You're getting partial download. > >> I'm trying to download -- Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 20:11:48 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:11:48 -0400 Subject: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size In-Reply-To: <4151CD8D.2010200@rd.arkonnetworks.com> References: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> <70769F46-0CC9-11D9-B457-000D93ADF68A@overture.com> <4151CD8D.2010200@rd.arkonnetworks.com> Message-ID: <20040922201148.GA6030@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:07:57PM -0700, Norman Zhang wrote: > ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso > > it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded > to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. That sounds like either the server or firefox have a 32bit size issue, since its about 4Gb+380.7M From bstretch at mindspring.com Wed Sep 22 20:18:34 2004 From: bstretch at mindspring.com (Brian Stretch) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3 DVD Image Suggestion Message-ID: <13112635.1095884314678.JavaMail.root@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Could the FC3 DVD images be split into i386, x86_64, and SRPM images? Besides eliminating the need for overburning (until at least FC4...) it'd eliminate the rather large duplication of the SRPM directory for those of us who download both the x86_64 images (for ourselves) and i386 images (for our wayward Intel-using friends). About the problems ftp'ing FC3 images: Bittorrent is your friend. You may not be able to contribute back as much as you downloaded, but every gigabyte of bandwidth helps. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 22 20:36:54 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:36:54 +0100 Subject: FC3T2 Evolution Memory Hog In-Reply-To: <1095866967.4510.19.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1095789841.6459.15.camel@cei3544> <1095790489.16613.6.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1095843398.9164.10.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1095866967.4510.19.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095885414.4588.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > How much memory is Evolution taking up? (i.e. is it excessive memory > usage that's causing the slowdown for you?) 161Mb for the app, 64Mb for the alarm, 107Mb for the data server and 36.1Mb for the Exchange stuff. Well, that's what's registered via gnome- system-monitor. The slow down (g-s-m showing 100% processor in use) becomes annoying, though killing Ev (and it's components) usually fixes the problem. That and gst-thumbnail > Are the contacts all local, or are you using LDAP/Exchange servers? etc All contacts are local. > What kind of email accounts - IMAP, POP, mbox? etc POP3 only > How big are your inboxes? Not that big. I think the largest has 70 odd emails in. I have 15 folders set up for email to be plopped into. > If you selectively enable/disable the accounts, can you > isolate what's causing slowdown/memory usage, or is it a general > problem? It's in general > We probably should take this to bugzilla. I'll file something later. TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It would be nice if the SRPMS images were made: - identical (there'd be some extra packages that are only for some archs, but it would be much easier) - move all common stuff to common SRPMS CDs and then put arch specific stuff on separate SRPMS CDs - a hybrid version of the above: put as much common stuff as possible on common SRPMS CDs, then have one CD per arch that has the arch specific stuff and the rest of the common stuff This would also be a bit nicer for mirrors (as well as people that download multiple archs), as it would save around 2G of space per additional arch. If then the DVD images were built with a per-arch binary and a common SRPMS image, that would save another 2G per additional arch. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From talbotscott at cox.net Wed Sep 22 20:48:31 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:48:31 -0700 Subject: Watchdog - i8xx_tco and reboots In-Reply-To: <1095110819.27996.49.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <1095110819.27996.49.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <1095886110.3371.7.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 14:26, Colin Charles wrote: > Finally giving x86 Rawhide a go (refreshing after lots of PPC?), I got > the tree from 0911, and popped in on a box with the GIGABYTE > '8I845GVM-RZ' i845GV > > No glory for me, as the box kept on rebooting in the starting stages - > this means it stayed on for >60s but died <120s > > So, the new workaround is: > * boot into single user mode > * rmmod i8xx_tco > * Ctrl+d > * Enjoy Rawhide > > Is anyone else noticing these problems? Bugzilla seems rather silent > about this... Thanks for this! I've been having fits trying to upgrade to T2 on my MSI mobo with i850 chipset. Will you be filing Bugzilla soon? be a good idea to let them know. Scott From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Wed Sep 22 21:11:25 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:11:25 -0500 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 Message-ID: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> My scsi dvd-rom is not recognized. Hanging off an Adaptec 29260 controller. Any suggestions. Timothy From talbotscott at cox.net Wed Sep 22 21:15:24 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:15:24 -0700 Subject: more convenient place for release notes? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095887724.3371.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > from earlier posts, it seems that the canonical place to find the > release notes is just at a download site by digging waaaaay down to > the "os/" directory. > > wouldn't it make more sense to have something this useful at a > prominent place at fedora.redhat.com? like, say, on the main page? > right now, there's a short blurb there entitled "Fedora Core 3 Test 2 > Available". wouldn't this be a fine place for a link to the release > notes? How about way down on the main directory of your install CD? Did you notice the button where you can read the release notes before installing? Scott From gstool at earthlink.net Wed Sep 22 21:29:27 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:29:27 -0500 Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: <4151C32E.4010303@comcast.net> References: <4151BA8B.1020806@earthlink.net> <4151C32E.4010303@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4151EEB7.8020006@earthlink.net> Jim Martin wrote: > I don't understand, how can some of us being having this problem, and > not all? I did 3 installs, all with everything. but yet, none of my > machines can get these updates with out erroring out. > I don't think upgrading gcc is going to fix the problem ( as shown > below) can anyone tell me why we are having this problem? and if > possible, a way to solve it? > > thank you, > > BaVinic > >>> >> That doesn't solve the dependency problem: >> [root at gstpc gerry]# up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ >> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide >> using mirror: >> http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ >> >> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... >> >> Fetching rpm headers... >> ######################################## >> >> Name Version Rel >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> gcc4 4.0.0 >> 0.2 i386 >> gcc4-c++ 4.0.0 >> 0.2 i386 >> >> >> Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... >> There was a package dependency problem. The message was: >> >> Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >> gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires gcc35 = 3.5.0-0.9 >> java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp requires libgcj = 3.4.1 >> >> Any other suggestions? There are a lot of packages caught in >> dependency issues in rawhide. > If you aren't already doing it, select a few at a time to update. Many of the packages will install. Keep a list of the problems and deal with those specifically. Eventually, rawhide should contain compatible packages for those problems. Gerry From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Wed Sep 22 21:34:53 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:34:53 -0300 Subject: more convenient place for release notes? In-Reply-To: <1095887724.3371.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1095887724.3371.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <1095888893.14352.13.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Qua, 2004-09-22 ?s 18:15, Scott Talbot escreveu: > How about way down on the main directory of your install CD? > Did you notice the button where you can read the release notes before > installing? Thats a nice thing to do while you wait for the files to be copied ;-) Altough, you still have to download it or crawl through download mirrors. Wouldn't hurt if it was at http://fedora.redhat.com (like skype does) -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Sep 22 21:44:59 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:44:59 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 NFS install Message-ID: <1095889499.3056.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Can you do this with the DVD iso if it's the only iso (file for that matter) in the nfs dir? I burned an image with the boot.iso file, booted up and when I try to do the nfs install, the dir I have it in says "not a dir tree" or something to that affect. I wanted to see if there was something I was doing wrong before downloading the regular 4 .iso's and trying again (this always worked for me). Yes my nfs dir's are mounted and can be accessed. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Sep 22 21:45:56 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:45:56 -0500 Subject: Gnome icons and desktop menu are gone Message-ID: <1095889556.3056.4.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> After doing a rawhide update this morning, my icons are gone, as well as not being able to right click on the desktop to get a menu. Is there something wrong that I may not know about or missed an email? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Sep 22 21:47:55 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:47:55 -0500 Subject: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size In-Reply-To: <20040922201148.GA6030@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> <70769F46-0CC9-11D9-B457-000D93ADF68A@overture.com> <4151CD8D.2010200@rd.arkonnetworks.com> <20040922201148.GA6030@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095889675.3056.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 16:11 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:07:57PM -0700, Norman Zhang wrote: > > ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso > > > > it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded > > to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. > > That sounds like either the server or firefox have a 32bit size issue, since > its about 4Gb+380.7M This is the size mine shows... 4684781568 Sep 16 01:04 FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From jronald at chartermi.net Wed Sep 22 21:55:12 2004 From: jronald at chartermi.net (James Ronald) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:55:12 -0400 Subject: FC3 test 2 on VIA C3 & EPIA processors Message-ID: <006f01c4a0ee$d654aa70$6501a8c0@JIM> Has anyone tested or know if FC3 test 2 works with the VIA C3 and EPIA Processors? I know that there was a problem with support for these processors when FC2 was released. I'm basically asking if the patches/fixes have been rolled into FC3 test distributions. Thanks. JR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Day wrote: > not having had to mess with fonts so far, i'm curious about why the > release notes seem adamant that, with the new fontconfig font scheme, > you would have to add personal font files into the ~/.fonts directory > when you'd have to run "fc-cache" anyway, and fc-cache takes the > directory name as an argument. doesn't that suggest you can add those > font files anywhere, as long as you run fc-cache appropriately? just > curious. What fc-cache /.fonts does is update the cache in ~/.fonts. You could just run fc-cache and it would: - Try to update the system cache directories, and fail - Update ~/.fonts Running fc-cache on the directory directly is just a bit more efficient. The search path for fontconfig is set from /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, in this case: ~/.fonts > p.s. i did note that (at least on my FC2 system, FC3t2 system is > still installing so it might not be the same there), the man page for > fc-cache suggests to "SEE ALSO: fontconfig(3)". there is no such man > page (although, as i said, this is what i'm reading on my FC2 system, > so it might very well have changed for FC3t2. i just can't check that > for about the next 1/2 hour.) I think it's an upstream man page bug. If you want to file it in bugzilla.freedesktop.org, that would be useful. The main fontconfig docs got split into lots of little pieces. Regards, Owen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But I can not tell if it really helps because my machine is just up for several minutes. I hope it will be useful people here. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=35691 Cheers, Guo From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 22:40:18 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:40:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: <4151EEB7.8020006@earthlink.net> References: <4151BA8B.1020806@earthlink.net> <4151C32E.4010303@comcast.net> <4151EEB7.8020006@earthlink.net> Message-ID: > > I don't understand, how can some of us being having this problem, and > > not all? I did 3 installs, all with everything. but yet, none of my > > machines can get these updates with out erroring out. > > I don't think upgrading gcc is going to fix the problem ( as shown > > below) can anyone tell me why we are having this problem? and if > > possible, a way to solve it? Not everyone installs every package, in fact it is sensible only to install the packages or groups of packages you actually need. And unless you are keen to test the latest development compilers you don't need gcc4. > >> That doesn't solve the dependency problem: > >> [root at gstpc gerry]# up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ > >> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > >> using mirror: > >> http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > >> > >> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... > >> > >> Fetching rpm headers... > >> ######################################## > >> > >> Name Version Rel > >> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> gcc4 4.0.0 > >> 0.2 i386 > >> gcc4-c++ 4.0.0 > >> 0.2 i386 > >> > >> > >> Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > >> There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > >> > >> Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > >> gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires gcc35 = 3.5.0-0.9 > >> java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp requires libgcj = 3.4.1 > >> > >> Any other suggestions? There are a lot of packages caught in > >> dependency issues in rawhide. I was expecting you to add other packages to the line to solve dependencies as you needed them, eg. up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ gcc4-gfortran but you are probably stuck until a rebuilt version of java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp linked against gcc 3.4.2 comes out. Michael Young From cylon at streamyx.com Wed Sep 22 22:47:47 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 06:47:47 +0800 Subject: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size In-Reply-To: <1095889675.3056.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> <70769F46-0CC9-11D9-B457-000D93ADF68A@overture.com> <4151CD8D.2010200@rd.arkonnetworks.com> <20040922201148.GA6030@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1095889675.3056.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <41520113.9070907@streamyx.com> Mike Chambers wrote: >On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 16:11 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > >>On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:07:57PM -0700, Norman Zhang wrote: >> >> >>>ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso >>> >>>it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded >>>to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. >>> >>> >>That sounds like either the server or firefox have a 32bit size issue, since >>its about 4Gb+380.7M >> >> > >This is the size mine shows... > >4684781568 Sep 16 01:04 FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso > > > Don' use browsers! Use dedicated FTP program like gftp on fedora , filezilla or smartftp on windows. From cylon at streamyx.com Wed Sep 22 22:49:45 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 06:49:45 +0800 Subject: Regarding DVD Size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41520189.7080102@streamyx.com> Gordon McCague wrote: >The file I downloaded yesterday from Limestone was 2GB. I'm now using >wget in WinXP which is reporting a 389MB file size. I think this is a >limitation of FTP. > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Norman Zhang >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:07:57 -0700 >Subject: Re: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size > >Thanks. I was trying to get, > >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/iso/FC2-i386-DVD.iso > >Now I'm trying to download > >ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso > >it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded >to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. > >Regards, >Norman > > > >>Of course not. You're getting partial download. >> >> >> >>>I'm trying to download FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso. Is the size suppose to >>>be 380.7MB? >>> >>> > > > If u still have problem try download the cdrom iso's. It usually works. From cylon at streamyx.com Wed Sep 22 22:56:51 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 06:56:51 +0800 Subject: FC3: Correction to my DVD Download Comments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41520333.603@streamyx.com> Gordon McCague wrote: >Correction! It looks like the limitation resides with using a web >browser to download the files (FireFox and wget). The file size is >reported correctly when I use a command line FTP utility and is coming >down fine. I am performing the download at work with Windows XP which >could be part of the problem. > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Norman Zhang >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:07:57 -0700 >Subject: Re: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size > >Thanks. I was trying to get, > >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/iso/FC2-i386-DVD.iso > >Now I'm trying to download > >ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso > >it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded >to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. > >Regards, >Norman > > > >>Of course not. You're getting partial download. >> >> >> >>>I'm trying to download >>> >>> > > > Make sure u download on ntfs drive. Fat has a 4GB size limit! From bavinic at comcast.net Wed Sep 22 22:59:45 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:59:45 -0400 Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: References: <4151BA8B.1020806@earthlink.net> <4151C32E.4010303@comcast.net> <4151EEB7.8020006@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <415203E1.5040501@comcast.net> M A Young wrote: >>>I don't understand, how can some of us being having this problem, and >>>not all? I did 3 installs, all with everything. but yet, none of my >>>machines can get these updates with out erroring out. >>>I don't think upgrading gcc is going to fix the problem ( as shown >>>below) can anyone tell me why we are having this problem? and if >>>possible, a way to solve it? >>> >>> > >Not everyone installs every package, in fact it is sensible only to >install the packages or groups of packages you actually need. And unless >you are keen to test the latest development compilers you don't need gcc4. > > > >>>>That doesn't solve the dependency problem: >>>>[root at gstpc gerry]# up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ >>>>http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide >>>>using mirror: >>>>http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ >>>> >>>>Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... >>>> >>>>Fetching rpm headers... >>>>######################################## >>>> >>>>Name Version Rel >>>>---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>gcc4 4.0.0 >>>>0.2 i386 >>>>gcc4-c++ 4.0.0 >>>>0.2 i386 >>>> >>>> >>>>Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... >>>>There was a package dependency problem. The message was: >>>> >>>>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>>>gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires gcc35 = 3.5.0-0.9 >>>>java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp requires libgcj = 3.4.1 >>>> >>>>Any other suggestions? There are a lot of packages caught in >>>>dependency issues in rawhide. >>>> >>>> > >I was expecting you to add other packages to the line to solve >dependencies as you needed them, eg. >up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ gcc4-gfortran >but you are probably stuck until a rebuilt version of >java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp linked against gcc 3.4.2 comes out. > > Michael Young > > > > This is true not everyone does install everything, but seeing how I am running a test version, I assumed it would be benifical to test everything. granted, i can get by without most of the packages that I am having trouble with, but why should I have to? BaVinic From cylon at streamyx.com Wed Sep 22 23:04:10 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:04:10 +0800 Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: References: <4151BA8B.1020806@earthlink.net> <4151C32E.4010303@comcast.net> <4151EEB7.8020006@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <415204EA.90701@streamyx.com> M A Young wrote: >>>I don't understand, how can some of us being having this problem, and >>>not all? I did 3 installs, all with everything. but yet, none of my >>>machines can get these updates with out erroring out. >>>I don't think upgrading gcc is going to fix the problem ( as shown >>>below) can anyone tell me why we are having this problem? and if >>>possible, a way to solve it? >>> >>> > >Not everyone installs every package, in fact it is sensible only to >install the packages or groups of packages you actually need. And unless >you are keen to test the latest development compilers you don't need gcc4. > > > >>>>That doesn't solve the dependency problem: >>>>[root at gstpc gerry]# up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ >>>>http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide >>>>using mirror: >>>>http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ >>>> >>>>Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... >>>> >>>>Fetching rpm headers... >>>>######################################## >>>> >>>>Name Version Rel >>>>---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>gcc4 4.0.0 >>>>0.2 i386 >>>>gcc4-c++ 4.0.0 >>>>0.2 i386 >>>> >>>> >>>>Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... >>>>There was a package dependency problem. The message was: >>>> >>>>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>>>gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires gcc35 = 3.5.0-0.9 >>>>java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp requires libgcj = 3.4.1 >>>> >>>>Any other suggestions? There are a lot of packages caught in >>>>dependency issues in rawhide. >>>> >>>> > >I was expecting you to add other packages to the line to solve >dependencies as you needed them, eg. >up2date gcc4 gcc4-c++ gcc4-gfortran >but you are probably stuck until a rebuilt version of >java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp linked against gcc 3.4.2 comes out. > > Michael Young > > > > It's all for the sake of testing, so we can help the developer ironing out problems before it made out to stable release. From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 00:02:37 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:02:37 -0400 Subject: Anyone else seeing a very sparsely filled gnome preference menu? Message-ID: <604aa791040922170246b9e652@mail.gmail.com> I have a fresh installed fc3t2 system using a default workstation install. updated to current rawhide package set. I am seeing a very very sparsely filled preference menu. no theme preference item no keybindings preference item no keyboard preference item no windows preference item. no network preference item no sound preference item I have all the executables for this preference dialogs..but the menu entries arent showing up rpm -q control-center control-center-2.7.1-4 Anyone else seeing something similar? -jef From michel.salim at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 00:04:18 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:04:18 -0500 Subject: SELinux error with -584 kernel Message-ID: <883cfe6d04092217044c616ae4@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I get audit errors when booting up (and similar messages when shutting down) with the -1.584 kernel: audit(1095879279.586:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1701 exe=/sbin/minilogd name=console dev=tmpfs ino=993 scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=user_u:object_r:tmpfs_t tclass=chr_file (and lots of other messages like this one) This does not happen under the -1.541 kernel that shipped with the install media; is this normal, should I file a bug, and against the kernel, selinux-policy-targetd, or mkinitrd? Thanks, -- Michel Salim ??? http://salimma.livejournal.com From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Thu Sep 23 00:16:05 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:16:05 -0400 Subject: Anyone else seeing a very sparsely filled gnome preference menu? In-Reply-To: <604aa791040922170246b9e652@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa791040922170246b9e652@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1095898565.4388.5.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:02 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > I have a fresh installed fc3t2 system using a default workstation install. > updated to current rawhide package set. > > I am seeing a very very sparsely filled preference menu. > no theme preference item > no keybindings preference item > no keyboard preference item > no windows preference item. > no network preference item > no sound preference item > > I have all the executables for this preference dialogs..but the menu > entries arent showing up > > rpm -q control-center > control-center-2.7.1-4 > > Anyone else seeing something similar? > > -jef > Yep, the problem seems to be that the "Categories" field of all those .desktop files were modified to invalid values. For example: /usr/share/control-center-2.0/capplets/gnome-keybinding.desktop contains: Categories=GNOME;Application;X-Red-Hat-Base; instead of: Categories=GNOME;Application;Settings;X-Red-Hat-Base; -- Ricardo Veguilla From walters at redhat.com Thu Sep 23 00:17:39 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:17:39 -0400 Subject: SELinux error with -584 kernel In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d04092217044c616ae4@mail.gmail.com> References: <883cfe6d04092217044c616ae4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1095898659.4477.27.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 19:04 -0500, Michel Salim wrote: > Hi, > > I get audit errors when booting up (and similar messages when shutting > down) with the -1.584 kernel: > > audit(1095879279.586:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1701 > exe=/sbin/minilogd name=console dev=tmpfs ino=993 > scontext=user_u:system_r:syslogd_t tcontext=user_u:object_r:tmpfs_t > tclass=chr_file Dan says it's because the tmpfs xattr support was pulled for some reason, it should be fixed in the next kernel revision. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Now on to the installation! -- Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 From notting at redhat.com Wed Sep 22 19:31:37 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:31:37 -0400 Subject: cron as normal user - changed? In-Reply-To: References: <20040922055008.GD18721@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040922193136.GA4143@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Neal D. Becker (ndbecker2 at verizon.net) said: > I did not have any /etc/cron.{allow,deny} under FC2, and it was working > then. It's a change since then. Bill From cleith at mast.queensu.ca Thu Sep 23 00:27:29 2004 From: cleith at mast.queensu.ca (Chris Leith) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:27:29 -0700 Subject: acpi=off disables Fn key combinations on ThinkPad Message-ID: <1095899250.3328.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Configuration: FC3T2 with kernel 2.6.8-1.584 Using acpi=off in the kernel command line (to disable acpi and use apm instead) causes the Fn key (and any combinations) on my ThinkPad T41 to not respond. Even things like tpb package (can be used in conjunction with xosd to show an on screen volume level, for example) no longer work when acpi=off is used. Without acpi=off tpb works fine and some of the Fn key combinations are registered. I prefer to use apm, however. Previously, using acpi=off worked flawlessly (suspend to ram using apm, all Fn key combos working) with a 2.6.6 kernel in FC2. Can anyone shed some light on this change in behaviour? Thanks in advance, -Chris From martinalderson at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 00:25:35 2004 From: martinalderson at gmail.com (Martin Alderson) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:25:35 +0100 Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d86007804092217254dcd691e@mail.gmail.com> Apart from that is impossible since BitTorrent checks SHA1 hashes every 1MB and also for every file. Either the BitTorrent images are faulty or you have burnt them incorrectly. BitTorrent will never say file complete if it does not match checksums, simple as that. Martin On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:17:25 -0700, Gordon McCague wrote: > "About the problems ftp'ing FC3 images: Bittorrent is your > friend. You may not be able to contribute back as much as > you downloaded, but every gigabyte of bandwidth helps." > > I tried Bittorrent first on Linux without success. The disks would not > boot correctly. It is certainly possible that I made a mistake in > creating the disks but wanted to use tried and true FTP to make sure I > had decent files. It appears that the images I received from Limestone > are perfect. Now on to the installation! > -- > Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com > http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ > p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- Get Firefox - Popup blocking, tabbed browsing and great security: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=9&t=1 From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 23 00:32:48 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:32:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: acpi=off disables Fn key combinations on ThinkPad In-Reply-To: <1095899250.3328.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095899250.3328.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Chris Leith wrote: > Configuration: FC3T2 with kernel 2.6.8-1.584 > > Using acpi=off in the kernel command line (to disable acpi and use apm > instead) causes the Fn key (and any combinations) on my ThinkPad T41 to > not respond. Even things like tpb package (can be used in conjunction > with xosd to show an on screen volume level, for example) no longer work > when acpi=off is used. Without acpi=off tpb works fine and some of the > Fn key combinations are registered. I prefer to use apm, however. > Previously, using acpi=off worked flawlessly (suspend to ram using apm, > all Fn key combos working) with a 2.6.6 kernel in FC2. > > Can anyone shed some light on this change in behaviour? ACPI suspend works fine for you? It doesn't on my T40. (with both 541 & 584 kernels) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133105 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133176 Satish From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Thu Sep 23 00:35:37 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:35:37 -0400 Subject: Anyone else seeing a very sparsely filled gnome preference menu? In-Reply-To: <1095898565.4388.5.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> References: <604aa791040922170246b9e652@mail.gmail.com> <1095898565.4388.5.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> Message-ID: <1095899738.4800.5.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:16 -0400, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:02 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > I have a fresh installed fc3t2 system using a default workstation install. > > updated to current rawhide package set. > > > > I am seeing a very very sparsely filled preference menu. > > no theme preference item > > no keybindings preference item > > no keyboard preference item > > no windows preference item. > > no network preference item > > no sound preference item > > > > I have all the executables for this preference dialogs..but the menu > > entries arent showing up > > > > rpm -q control-center > > control-center-2.7.1-4 > > > > Anyone else seeing something similar? > > > > -jef > > > > Yep, the problem seems to be that the "Categories" field of all > those .desktop files were modified to invalid values. It seems like they are rearranging the preferences menu but its still unfinished. There are some new categories like "Appearance" that are not defined in "/usr/share/gnome/vfolders/*.directory". -- Ricardo Veguilla From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Sep 23 00:42:25 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:42:25 -0400 Subject: cron as normal user - changed? References: <20040922055008.GD18721@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <20040922193136.GA4143@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Bill Nottingham wrote: > Neal D. Becker (ndbecker2 at verizon.net) said: >> I did not have any /etc/cron.{allow,deny} under FC2, and it was working >> then. > > It's a change since then. > OK, man-page needs to be fixed then. From cleith at mast.queensu.ca Thu Sep 23 01:34:38 2004 From: cleith at mast.queensu.ca (Chris Leith) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:34:38 -0700 Subject: acpi=off disables Fn key combinations on ThinkPad In-Reply-To: References: <1095899250.3328.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1095903278.3328.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> I played with ACPI suspend to ram on my T40 with the newer kernels (541 and 584). Actually seems to suspend, provided you stop usb first. I read that the battery performance under ACPI suspend is very poor right now though, so it is not a desirable option. I really want to get APM suspend working again, since it worked perfectly before. I think the problem with APM suspend is tied to the fact that the Fn key presses don't seem to be registered properly with the newer kernels (541 and 584) when under APM (ie. acpi=off). The Fn key always "worked" before for me. I, too, am able to suspend my machine by issuing apm -s directly (when using acpi=off), however, I am not convinced that the machine is even attempting to resume since the suspend led (the little moon) stays lit. Rather, I think the machine is just ignoring the required key press (Fn key on my T40) that normally tells it to resume. -Chris On Wed, 2004-22-09 at 19:32 -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Chris Leith wrote: > > > Configuration: FC3T2 with kernel 2.6.8-1.584 > > > > Using acpi=off in the kernel command line (to disable acpi and use apm > > instead) causes the Fn key (and any combinations) on my ThinkPad T41 to > > not respond. Even things like tpb package (can be used in conjunction > > with xosd to show an on screen volume level, for example) no longer work > > when acpi=off is used. Without acpi=off tpb works fine and some of the > > Fn key combinations are registered. I prefer to use apm, however. > > Previously, using acpi=off worked flawlessly (suspend to ram using apm, > > all Fn key combos working) with a 2.6.6 kernel in FC2. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on this change in behaviour? > > ACPI suspend works fine for you? It doesn't on my T40. (with both 541 > & 584 kernels) > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133105 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133176 > > Satish > > From jreiser at BitWagon.com Thu Sep 23 01:53:28 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:53:28 -0700 Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41522C98.4030301@BitWagon.com> Gordon McCague wrote: > I tried Bittorrent first on Linux without success. The disks would not > boot correctly. ... My Bittorrent images of four FC3test2 binary CD-ROMs worked perfectly. [mediacheck is broken due to a kernel bug: reading is unreliable near EOF https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131858 , but I checked by hand using dd and cmp] You have to wait until bittorrent says it is completely finished with _everything_, before using the separate files _at_all_! It is quite normal for a random small piece of each file to be missing until the last few seconds of the entire set of files. -- From cochranb at speakeasy.net Thu Sep 23 02:16:59 2004 From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:16:59 -0400 Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095905819.4687.38.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> Bittorrent has always worked for me. I haven't used it lately because I need to change my firewall code to point to a different destination machine for the Bittorrent ports, but when I've used it in the past, it has been great. I want It is most likely that you made a mistake in burning your CDs. I think most everyone has. I've tossed my fair share of bad CDs too. Bob On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:17, Gordon McCague wrote: > "About the problems ftp'ing FC3 images: Bittorrent is your > friend. You may not be able to contribute back as much as > you downloaded, but every gigabyte of bandwidth helps." > > I tried Bittorrent first on Linux without success. The disks would not > boot correctly. It is certainly possible that I made a mistake in > creating the disks but wanted to use tried and true FTP to make sure I > had decent files. It appears that the images I received from Limestone > are perfect. Now on to the installation! > -- > Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com > http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ > p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 > From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu Sep 23 02:28:20 2004 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:28:20 +1000 Subject: saving attachments in evolution sends CPU 100% Message-ID: <1095906500.22419.2.camel@clownfish> With the current version of Evolution, each time I try to save an attachment to disk, the CPU goes to 100% and evolution becomes unresponsive. Have others noticed this? Steps to reproduce: 1. Find an email with an attachment and view it. 2. Click the down arrow for the attachment and select "Save As" At this point my CPU goes wild and evolution stops responding. I noticed that evolution has be patched to use the new GTK File Picker and I imagine this is related. Rodd -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu Sep 23 02:37:29 2004 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:37:29 +1000 Subject: saving attachments in evolution sends CPU 100% In-Reply-To: <1095906500.22419.2.camel@clownfish> References: <1095906500.22419.2.camel@clownfish> Message-ID: <1095907050.22419.4.camel@clownfish> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 12:28 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > With the current version of Evolution, each time I try to save an > attachment to disk, the CPU goes to 100% and evolution becomes > unresponsive. I've filed a bug report on this in bugzilla.redhat.com See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133313 From alan at clueserver.org Thu Sep 23 02:19:41 2004 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: <1095905819.4687.38.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Robert L Cochran wrote: > Bittorrent has always worked for me. I haven't used it lately because I > need to change my firewall code to point to a different destination > machine for the Bittorrent ports, but when I've used it in the past, it > has been great. I want > > It is most likely that you made a mistake in burning your CDs. I think > most everyone has. I've tossed my fair share of bad CDs too. > > Bob > > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:17, Gordon McCague wrote: > > "About the problems ftp'ing FC3 images: Bittorrent is your > > friend. You may not be able to contribute back as much as > > you downloaded, but every gigabyte of bandwidth helps." > > > > I tried Bittorrent first on Linux without success. The disks would not > > boot correctly. It is certainly possible that I made a mistake in > > creating the disks but wanted to use tried and true FTP to make sure I > > had decent files. It appears that the images I received from Limestone > > are perfect. Now on to the installation! I have used bittorrent for every FC iso I have downloaded. (Which has been more than five so far.) I have yet to get a bad iso. Every one I have downloaded has had an MD5sum file to verify the iso before burning. md5sum -c MD5SUM is your friend. It may be your burning software or some other factor. From arthur.maillist at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 03:33:47 2004 From: arthur.maillist at gmail.com (Arthur Zhang) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:33:47 +0800 Subject: FC3Test2 Installation From Hard Drive ISO Failed Message-ID: hi guys, I have searched this archive but found no properly post. After downloading the four .iso images of Fedora Core3 Test2, I checked the md5sum, it's correct. Then I wanted to install it from hard drive .iso, so I put the four ISO in the same folder D:\linux, and then burned the boot.iso to a CD, booted the machine from cdrom, select install from "hard drive", select "hda5" and the folder "linux", press "ok", and then turn out a bluescreen! The message there is something like this: "install exited abnormally --received signal 11 sending termination signals ...done sending kill signals ...done disabling swap ... unmounting filesystems... /proc/bus/usb done /proc/ done /dev/pts done /system done /tmp/ramfs done /tmp/hdimage umount failed (16) you can safely reboot your system" I have tried other methods to start the installation, like using the program "grub for dos", "loadin.exe", but it goes to the same problem! I had installed the Fedora Core2 and other linux distributions before on this machine, no problem. Any solutions for this? regards Arthur From cylon at streamyx.com Thu Sep 23 03:34:21 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:34:21 +0800 Subject: System-config-soundcard? In-Reply-To: <1095867358.26478.46.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> References: <41518E04.3080504@streamyx.com> <1095867358.26478.46.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <4152443D.2020001@streamyx.com> Alexander Dalloz wrote: >Am Mi, den 22.09.2004 schrieb Mazli Alias um 16:36: > > > >>Problem when running/ system-config-soundcard/. It just didn't get through. >> >> > >http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-September/msg00764.html > >Alexander > > > > Download latest patch..problem solved..thanks! From carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au Thu Sep 23 03:52:27 2004 From: carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au (Carl Gherardi) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:52:27 +0800 Subject: Evolution Wierdness - keymappings? In-Reply-To: <1095859379.32109.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095821208.3589.12.camel@coeus> <1095859379.32109.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1095911547.11662.5.camel@coeus> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 09:22 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:46 +0800, Carl Gherardi wrote: > > Looks like it has already been reported as big id 133173 > > > > Any ideas where this is coming from? > > Presumably, it's the problem resulting from the first patch in > bug 130751, basically an uninitialized variable usage problem. > > Should be fixed as of gtkhtml3-3.3.2-3, testing would be appreciated. > > Regards, > Owen > Downloaded last night, and haven't ween any issues with the above package this morning. Carl Gherardi -- -- This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NAUTRONIX LTD. 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From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 23 03:57:32 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:57:32 -0400 Subject: FC3Test2 Installation From Hard Drive ISO Failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <415249AC.2070803@sbcglobal.net> Arthur Zhang wrote: > hi guys, > > I have searched this archive but found no properly post. > > After downloading the four .iso images of Fedora Core3 Test2, I > checked the md5sum, it's correct. > > Then I wanted to install it from hard drive .iso, so I put the four > ISO in the same folder D:\linux, and then burned the boot.iso to a CD, > booted the machine from cdrom, select install from "hard drive", > select "hda5" and the folder "linux", press "ok", and then turn out a > bluescreen! > > The message there is something like this: > > "install exited abnormally --received signal 11 > sending termination signals ...done > sending kill signals ...done > disabling swap ... > unmounting filesystems... > /proc/bus/usb done > /proc/ done > /dev/pts done > /system done > /tmp/ramfs done > /tmp/hdimage umount failed (16) > you can safely reboot your system" > > I have tried other methods to start the installation, like using the > program "grub for dos", "loadin.exe", but it goes to the same problem! > > I had installed the Fedora Core2 and other linux distributions before > on this machine, no problem. > > Any solutions for this? > > regards > > Arthur > > I assume that the MS OS filesystem is vfat. I do not have any vfat or ntfs filesystems to try, but ntfs probably would not work. I did not have problems installing from an ext2 filesystem that was freshly created. Do you have any ext2, ext3, etc partitions that you could transfer the images to, that will not be part of your new installation. Jim From carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au Thu Sep 23 04:14:42 2004 From: carl.gherardi at nautronix.com.au (Carl Gherardi) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:14:42 +0800 Subject: SELinux messages - useful? Message-ID: <1095912883.11662.24.camel@coeus> Hey All, My system has been upgraded from Fedora Core 1 through the various devel releases, and finally to rawhide recently. I'm aware SELinux policies are under development, are output messages appropriate for this list? I've been getting messages at startup from ntp at startup for quite a while now, and haven't seen a change over several selinux policy updates. (selinux=targeted) Running ntpdate give the following syslog messages: Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.237:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate dev=hda3 ino=2 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=dir Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.238:0): avc: denied { read } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate name=ld.so.cache dev=hda3 ino=1622140 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t tclass=file Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.238:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate path=/etc/ld.so.cache dev=hda3 ino=1622140 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t tclass=file Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.285:0): avc: denied { read } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate name=libcap.so.1 dev=hda3 ino=2867274 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t tclass=lnk_file Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.298:0): avc: denied { execute } for pid=11758 path=/lib/libcap.so.1.10 dev=hda3 ino=2867230 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t tclass=file Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.300:0): avc: denied { read } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate name=localtime dev=hda3 ino=229407 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=file Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.300:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate path=/etc/localtime dev=hda3 ino=229407 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=file Sep 23 11:58:05 coeus kernel: audit(1095911885.649:0): avc: denied { read } for pid=11759 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate name=resolv.conf dev=hda3 ino=229433 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t tclass=file Sep 23 11:58:05 coeus kernel: audit(1095911885.650:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=11759 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate path=/etc/resolv.conf dev=hda3 ino=229433 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t tclass=file Which look different from bug id 132574 - the only thing I could find with SELinux and ntp. Is this a problem with policy, pebcak or a product of the upgrade? Thanks Carl Gherardi PS: My usb thumbdrives report Sep 23 07:42:28 coeus kernel: SCSI device sda: 499712 512-byte hdwr sectors (256 MB) Sep 23 07:42:28 coeus kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Sep 23 07:42:28 coeus kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through Sep 23 07:42:29 coeus kernel: sda: sda1 Sep 23 07:42:29 coeus kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 No device is created in /dev - udev? rtm? Carl -- -- This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NAUTRONIX LTD. If you are not the intended recipient, you have received this email in error and use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender. 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From arthur.maillist at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 04:22:11 2004 From: arthur.maillist at gmail.com (Arthur Zhang) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:22:11 +0800 Subject: FC3Test2 Installation From Hard Drive ISO Failed In-Reply-To: <415249AC.2070803@sbcglobal.net> References: <415249AC.2070803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:57:32 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > Arthur Zhang wrote: > > hi guys, > > > > I have searched this archive but found no properly post. > > > > After downloading the four .iso images of Fedora Core3 Test2, I > > checked the md5sum, it's correct. > > > > Then I wanted to install it from hard drive .iso, so I put the four > > ISO in the same folder D:\linux, and then burned the boot.iso to a CD, > > booted the machine from cdrom, select install from "hard drive", > > select "hda5" and the folder "linux", press "ok", and then turn out a > > bluescreen! > > > > The message there is something like this: > > > > "install exited abnormally --received signal 11 > > sending termination signals ...done > > sending kill signals ...done > > disabling swap ... > > unmounting filesystems... > > /proc/bus/usb done > > /proc/ done > > /dev/pts done > > /system done > > /tmp/ramfs done > > /tmp/hdimage umount failed (16) > > you can safely reboot your system" > > > > I have tried other methods to start the installation, like using the > > program "grub for dos", "loadin.exe", but it goes to the same problem! > > > > I had installed the Fedora Core2 and other linux distributions before > > on this machine, no problem. > > > > Any solutions for this? > > > > regards > > > > Arthur > > > > > > I assume that the MS OS filesystem is vfat. I do not have any vfat or > ntfs filesystems to try, but ntfs probably would not work. Yes, the filesystem is vfat. > I did not have problems installing from an ext2 filesystem that was > freshly created. > Do you have any ext2, ext3, etc partitions that you could transfer the > images to, that will not be part of your new installation. > Jim > Unfortunately I have no ext2, ext3 partitions thanks for your post regards Arthur From avl at alystel.kz Thu Sep 23 06:35:50 2004 From: avl at alystel.kz (avl) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:35:50 +0700 Subject: FC3T2 (new kernel) Warning: unable to open an initial console Message-ID: Hello After I download and compiled new kernel (linux-2.6.8.1.tar.bz2 + patch-2.6.9-rc2.bz2)as usual I have received the message at boot (Warning: unable to open an initial console) and all stop. Help. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Sep 23 06:54:46 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:54:46 +0100 Subject: Wierd logging in problem Message-ID: <1095922486.4588.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, This is a really strange problem. I think I know what is going on, but unsure how to remedy the situation. When I did the install, I partitioned the main drive so that /usr and /web were on different partitions. FC3t2 created the other partitions and did the rest. Gets to the end, reboot, I create user paul and login happily. I also create users bev and richard, so everything was the same as the old system. I've next added more drives, as they're 120Gb jobs, these too have been partitioned. I have a new home directory on /dev/hdb1 and alter fstab to say that /home is now /dev/hdb1 and insert the other partitions on the other drives also info fstab (in total, there is hdb1 & 2, hdg1 & 2 and hdh1 on the drives - hdh1 is a massive backup drive). When I reboot, I have all sorts of problems getting into my area (lots of problems with applets on the panel bar and my Liver bird backdrop). I can also not logout. When I do a ctrl backspace, I am returned to login screen and then can log in normally - everything reappears and works normally. Okay, the sound needs to be fiddled with, but other than that, it's all fine. Is the problem that /home/paul still exists on /dev/hda2 and the system is getting confused or something else? TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From Fred.New at microlink.ee Thu Sep 23 07:28:37 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:28:37 +0300 Subject: cron as normal user - changed? Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615FA6@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 23. september 2004. a. 3:42 Neal Becker wrote: > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: cron as normal user - changed? > > Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Neal D. Becker (ndbecker2 at verizon.net) said: > >> I did not have any /etc/cron.{allow,deny} under FC2, and > it was working > >> then. > > > > It's a change since then. > > > > OK, man-page needs to be fixed then. > Actually, it seems like this change should be mentioned in the release notes. Fred From dave at alfar.co.uk Thu Sep 23 07:42:04 2004 From: dave at alfar.co.uk (Dave) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:42:04 +0100 Subject: FC3Test2 I2O install problem (anaconda) In-Reply-To: <1095922486.4588.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095922486.4588.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <41527E4C.8020008@alfar.co.uk> Not kernel related this time! Device inodes are not being created properly by anaconda, instead of: /dev/i2o/hda 80, 0 /dev/i2o/hda1 80, 1 ... /dev/i2o/hda9 80, 9 I'm seeing: /dev/i2o/hda 80, 0 /dev/i2o/hdap1 80, 0 ... /dev/i2o/hdap9 80, 0 causing the install to fail with no hard drives found. Creating the devices manually allows the install to proceed as normal: mknod /dev/i2o/hda1 b 80 1 mknod /dev/i2o/hda2 b 80 2 ... mknod /dev/i2o/hda9 b 80 9 Technical discussion below - should I take this across to anaconda-devel and/or bugzilla, or is a relevant party listening in? isys/devnodes.c, devMakeInode() cannot determine minor device number since devName[7] is always 'p' - Assuming fsset.py formatDevice() is correct, I believe (UNTESTED!) the bug is in loader2/getparts.c, isPartitionName(): (1) Either do this: --- loader2/getparts.c 2004-09-23 01:48:30.000000000 +0100 +++ loader2/getparts.c 2004-09-23 01:48:53.000000000 +0100 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ return 0; /* if it has a '/' in it then treat it specially */ - if (strchr(pname, '/') && !strstr(pname, "iseries")) { + if (strchr(pname, '/') && !strstr(pname, "iseries") && !strstr(pname, "i2o")) { /* assume its either a /dev/ida/ or /dev/cciss device */ /* these have form of c?d?p? if its a partition */ return strchr(pname, 'p') != NULL; (2) Or instead of excluding devices that don't have the form c?d?p?, why not just include those that do?: --- loader2/getparts.c 2004-09-23 01:48:30.000000000 +0100 +++ loader2/getparts.c 2004-09-23 01:53:40.000000000 +0100 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ return 0; /* if it has a '/' in it then treat it specially */ - if (strchr(pname, '/') && !strstr(pname, "iseries")) { + if (strstr(pname, "ida/") || strstr(pname, "cciss/")) { /* assume its either a /dev/ida/ or /dev/cciss device */ /* these have form of c?d?p? if its a partition */ return strchr(pname, 'p') != NULL; (1) is less likely to break existing behaviour, (2) seems more sensible (but still ugly in the long term) - take your pick. NB - I've not had a chance to rebuild anaconda to test this yet since I'm currently without a suitable build platform. -- David Zambonini From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu Sep 23 08:09:28 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 04:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: more convenient place for release notes? In-Reply-To: <1095887724.3371.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1095887724.3371.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Scott Talbot wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> from earlier posts, it seems that the canonical place to find the >> release notes is just at a download site by digging waaaaay down to >> the "os/" directory. >> >> wouldn't it make more sense to have something this useful at a >> prominent place at fedora.redhat.com? like, say, on the main page? >> right now, there's a short blurb there entitled "Fedora Core 3 Test 2 >> Available". wouldn't this be a fine place for a link to the release >> notes? > > How about way down on the main directory of your install CD? > Did you notice the button where you can read the release notes before > installing? no, what i meant was a convenient place for people to read the notes *without* having to locate a mirror or download the release or start an install. the release notes for FC 2 are available online in a prominent place: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/ why not the release notes for the latest beta as well? every time there's a new release, inevitably, someone wants to know where to read the release notes. why not make it easy for them? if you check out http://fedora.redhat.com/ there's a prominent section there entitled "Fedora Core 3 Test 2 Available". wouldn't it be useful to add a link to that paragraph to the notes? rday From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu Sep 23 08:14:49 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 04:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3T2 NFS install In-Reply-To: <1095889499.3056.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1095889499.3056.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Mike Chambers wrote: > Can you do this with the DVD iso if it's the only iso (file for that > matter) in the nfs dir? > > I burned an image with the boot.iso file, booted up and when I try > to do the nfs install, the dir I have it in says "not a dir tree" or > something to that affect. I wanted to see if there was something I > was doing wrong before downloading the regular 4 .iso's and trying > again (this always worked for me). > > Yes my nfs dir's are mounted and can be accessed. NFS install works fine for me with FC3t2. on the install side, i booted with a boot.iso CD, "linux askmethod", and pointed at the NFS server and the ISO directory. on the server side, i had the 4 FC3t2 ISOs in that directory, the directory (actually, a parent of that directory) was exported, and NFS was running. piece of cake. rday From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu Sep 23 08:17:14 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 04:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size In-Reply-To: <1095889675.3056.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <4151CAE6.4020202@rd.arkonnetworks.com> <70769F46-0CC9-11D9-B457-000D93ADF68A@overture.com> <4151CD8D.2010200@rd.arkonnetworks.com> <20040922201148.GA6030@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1095889675.3056.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 16:11 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:07:57PM -0700, Norman Zhang wrote: >>> ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso >>> >>> it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded >>> to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. >> >> That sounds like either the server or firefox have a 32bit size issue, since >> its about 4Gb+380.7M > > This is the size mine shows... > > 4684781568 Sep 16 01:04 FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso this issue comes up with every release -- isn't there a FAQ on this somewhere? as i understand it, some clients have a 32-bit size limit that they'll recognize, so what they're seeing (with that 380.7M reported size) is the size modulo 4G, right? so, useful for the FAQ would be why this is happening, and which download clients work properly with it and which don't. does this exist somewhere? short of searching the archives? rday p.s. new admonition. "STFA". From harald at redhat.com Thu Sep 23 08:43:55 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:43:55 +0200 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 In-Reply-To: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> References: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <41528CCB.4080307@redhat.com> Timothy Sandel wrote: > My scsi dvd-rom is not recognized. Hanging off an Adaptec 29260 > controller. Any suggestions. > > Timothy > > How do you know? Did you load the sr_mod module? Did you look in /proc/scsi/scsi ? From harald at redhat.com Thu Sep 23 08:48:04 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:48:04 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 (new kernel) Warning: unable to open an initial console In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41528DC4.9050301@redhat.com> You have to use an initrd, which should be created after installing the latest mkinitrd and udev packages. avl wrote: > > Hello > After I download and compiled new kernel (linux-2.6.8.1.tar.bz2 + > patch-2.6.9-rc2.bz2)as usual > I have received the message at boot (Warning: unable to open an initial > console) and all stop. > Help. > > -- Harald Hoyer, Senior Software Engineer gpg fingerprint E930 20E6 CCF8 C76C 8582 CF9F B7B7 45C2 C557 5542 http://harryh.homelinux.org http://people.redhat.com/harald Red Hat GmbH : http://www.redhat.de From rc040203 at freenet.de Thu Sep 23 08:48:53 2004 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:48:53 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 (new kernel) Warning: unable to open an initial console In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095929333.31310.10.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 08:35, avl wrote: > Hello > After I download and compiled new kernel (linux-2.6.8.1.tar.bz2 > + patch-2.6.9-rc2.bz2)as usual > I have received the message at boot (Warning: unable to open an initial > console) and all stop. This is the same situation I am facing on a testing machine after a yum/apt-based update from FC2 to FC3test2. Now, I can't get into this machine anymore, not even if using init=/sbin/sh works, nor have I been able to boot this machine from CDROM. (Probably due to the missing console, I am not even able to properly shutdown this machine. The 3-finger-salute does not seem to react anymore). :( Ralf From wtogami at redhat.com Thu Sep 23 09:02:42 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:02:42 -1000 Subject: FYI: Fedora i2o Status Message-ID: <41529132.5040905@redhat.com> http://i2o.shadowconnect.com/fedora.php Status of I2O support ===================== Updated: Wednesday, September 22nd, 2004 Fedora Core 3 Test2 theoretically has fully working I2O support from the installer, tested with most DPT/Adaptec I2O cards. There is one patch for cards with 128MB onboard cache that will be in FC3 Test3, but otherwise we know if no further issues. If you do run into any problems with the kernel of FC3 Test2 with I2O, please discuss I2O kernel problems on linux-scsi mailing list, or Fedora specific problems on fedora-test-list. http://i2o.shadowconnect.com/ Please also test the raidutils RPM available from Markus' i2o homepage. It allows you to monitor and interact with your i2o arrays on a running system. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu Sep 23 09:50:48 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 05:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: release notes section on fonts for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <1095890638.32109.54.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095890638.32109.54.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Owen Taylor wrote: > What fc-cache /.fonts does is update the cache in ~/.fonts. You could ^ "~" i'm assuming you really meant to have a "~" there > just run fc-cache and it would: > > - Try to update the system cache directories, and fail > - Update ~/.fonts > > Running fc-cache on the directory directly is just a bit more > efficient. The search path for fontconfig is set > from /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, in this case: > > ~/.fonts (i suspect this is more a general FC issue than a test issue, but i started it here, so i might just as well finish it here.) on my new FC3t2 system, i just checked /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, and the font dirs listed there are (based on a fresh install): /usr/share/fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF ~/.fonts so, i'm assuming that if i just run "fc-cache", that would update the font cache files in *all* of those dirs (well, if i run it as a normal user, it would fail for the first three due to permission violations, but succeed for the last one, right?) if i run fc-cache with a specific directory, it will just update the font cache file in *that* directory. if this is true, how could i add a new font directory to my system? i would have suspected just adding another directory entry to /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, but that file quite clearly says "DO NOT EDIT". and the only commands that come with the fontconfig RPM are fc-cache and fc-list -- nothing that suggests adding a new directory. rday >> p.s. i did note that (at least on my FC2 system, FC3t2 system is >> still installing so it might not be the same there), the man page for >> fc-cache suggests to "SEE ALSO: fontconfig(3)". there is no such man >> page (although, as i said, this is what i'm reading on my FC2 system, >> so it might very well have changed for FC3t2. i just can't check that >> for about the next 1/2 hour.) > > I think it's an upstream man page bug. If you want to file it in > bugzilla.freedesktop.org, that would be useful. The main fontconfig > docs got split into lots of little pieces. there are a number of bugs in the fc-cache man page. 1) reference to non-existent "fontconfig(3)" 2) reference to filename "fonts.cache" when in fact it's "fonts.cache-1" 3) no mention whatever of various fc-cache options (--verbose, --force, etc) i'll file this stuff. From harald at redhat.com Thu Sep 23 10:49:42 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:49:42 +0200 Subject: not installing FC3 test 2 In-Reply-To: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1095365608.9011.35.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <4152AA46.8050306@redhat.com> Sounds like a watchdog module gets loaded and triggers a reboot... Scott Talbot wrote: > Well, I've just about run the gamut of all my knowledge, and i figure I > better get this to the list before FC3 is released. > > I downloaded the 2nd iso set around the 10th and have attempted to > install everyday, sometimes twice with limited success. The very first > install was the best (unfortunately) I had it working fairly well even, > but in retrospect I have no idea why this is so. > > My System: > MOBO MSI 6523 > GFX ATI Radeon 7200 > MEM 256M > BIOS: ASI 6.00 > > Upon loading CD1 and rebooting install using linux hda=XCYL,HEAD,SECTOR > to avoid the MBR problem that afflicts us all. > > The system goes into a VESA screen while probing hardware, the report > come back tht the monitor found is SyncMaster, which is true, but it > doesn't seem to tell me if it knows it is a Samsung SyncMaster 193P or > not. When X is started, I get an 800 X 600 screen in the upper left of > my 1280 X 1024 display while the install continues. (I reported this bug > in freedesktop bugz 1175) > The first error I get is a box with the announcement: > > Assertion (metadata_length >= bios_geom.sectors) at disk_dos.c: 7739 in > function_add_logical_part_metadata()failed > > and the ability to select cancel or ignore. Selecting either allows > progress to continue, but the same error recurs approximately 7 time > during the install and it takes 6 clicks to continue each time it comes > up. (Doesn't seem to matter if I choose ignore or cancel.) > > Eventually the process concludes with a report of successful completion. > > After rebooting the system starts to load I see few errors, nothing > devastating all reports are tagged [OKAY]. Usually just about the time > that RHGB is being replaced by X the system reboots itself, if I start > it in init 3 it reboots during the FSCK if I tell it to run that check > or closer to the login prompt (but never quite there). > > The only report of failure that I get is that firstboot failed but > usually there are a few other commands that execute before the reboot. > > Most recently I tried to install Test 1 and upgrade to Test 2 > (bypassing the need for firstboot). I got as far as the gdm login > screen in X and started to log in when it rebooted. > > I am now going to install Test1 and upgrade as much as I can and see > what finally breaks it. Anybody got a better idea? > > Scott > > -- Harald Hoyer, Senior Software Engineer gpg fingerprint E930 20E6 CCF8 C76C 8582 CF9F B7B7 45C2 C557 5542 http://harryh.homelinux.org http://people.redhat.com/harald Red Hat GmbH : http://www.redhat.de From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 11:22:25 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 06:22:25 -0500 Subject: bacula (which repository) Message-ID: Anyone have a url for the backup program bacula, that points to a repo with it included? Googling hasn't turned it up other than buildlogs for bacula on Dag Weir's. The sourceforge src.rpm of bacula seems to have spec.file problems I don't know how to fix... so looking for something already packaged that will work on FC[2/3]. From dedman11 at mchsi.com Thu Sep 23 11:35:39 2004 From: dedman11 at mchsi.com (DHE) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 06:35:39 -0500 Subject: Megaraid Message-ID: <4152B50B.3090908@mchsi.com> Has anyone come up with a work around for installing FC2T2 on a system with a MegaRaid controller? I have spent two days trying to install the new core, and it appears that it does not support the older cards any longer. Fedora Core 1 installed fine, but the new T2 will not. Megaraid is no longer an option even if you try to manually install the drivers. I have been searching for a driver but to no avail. I do not have another Linux box running here right now, so I cannot build the driver either. Although, that may be the next step. Should this be reported to bugzilla, or was the support dropped for a reason? From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Thu Sep 23 11:44:59 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:44:59 -0300 Subject: Megaraid In-Reply-To: <4152B50B.3090908@mchsi.com> References: <4152B50B.3090908@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <1095939899.21442.11.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Qui, 2004-09-23 ?s 08:35, DHE escreveu: > Has anyone come up with a work around for installing FC2T2 on a system ^^^^^ You were talking about FC3T2, weren't you? > that it does not support the older cards any longer. Fedora Core 1 > installed fine, but the new T2 will not. Megaraid is no longer an option > even if you try to manually install the drivers. The most drastic change between Fedora Core 1 and the post versions is the kernel, which is not 2.4.x anymore. Do you know if this driver is included in other 2.6-based distributions? -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From treed at ultraviolet.org Wed Sep 22 00:56:56 2004 From: treed at ultraviolet.org (Tracy R Reed) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:56:56 -0700 Subject: Reiserfs doesn't works! In-Reply-To: <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> References: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> Message-ID: <20040922005656.GA28767@copilotconsulting.com> On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 09:43:55AM -0500, Timothy Sandel spake thusly: > "linux reiserfs selinux=0" at the boot prompt. Make sure you use the > selinux=0 here are you WILL have problems installing. Speaking of reiserfs, when will it finally be listed as a filesystem choice during the install so we don't always have to remember to do the magical incantation "linux reiserfs" when we boot the CD's? I have been using reiser for several years and really like it but I always forget to add that boot option the first time I go to install a new box. -- Tracy Reed The attachment is a digital signature. http://copilotconsulting.com More info: http://copilotconsulting.com/sig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's unclear as to whether its concepts are even a good > > > idea, despite the Namesys marketing propaganda. > > what makes one think so ? I really look forward to being able to user reiser4 with FC. It would make sense for FC to prefer reiser4 over reiser3 because SE Linux will work on reiser4 due to its support of xattrs. And in general I see reiser4 being the Linux answer to WinFS and all that other stuff MS has been promising us for years and years. Surely ext3 isn't the end of evolution in filesystems. I look forward to filesystems becoming more flexible and more like general purpose databases which can be extended in a modular fashion with plugins and reiser4 seems to fit that bill. -- Tracy Reed The attachment is a digital signature. http://copilotconsulting.com More info: http://copilotconsulting.com/sig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Did you look in > /proc/scsi/scsi ? > > From joden at lee.k12.nc.us Thu Sep 23 11:54:52 2004 From: joden at lee.k12.nc.us (James Olin Oden) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: <20040922193155.GF7747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1095881363.6652.4.camel@Mars> <20040922193155.GF7747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:29:23PM +0200, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > > Hi > > > > How is it possible to build the Nvidia driver agaist the kernel.src? > > No. > > Nor can you build it against kernel-sourcecode for that matter. > > You can only build against the headers in /lib/modules/`uname `r/build, just > like it was the case ever since RHL 7.0. > (except that now the cheat of using another location no longer works) > Note, this assumes you are building driver for the machine you are running on. If your building drivers for multiple kernels, building them using the include directory in a configured kernel source tree instead of having to actually have each of the kernels installed is much better. I have built various build tools to support doing this for kernel modules in a completely automated way. So when we update the kernels in our one-off wonder distribution we just turn the crank and out pops module rpms for all of our modules for each of the kernels in the distribution. > > Why is the kernel-sourcecode left out? > > because it is redundant and mostly pointless. We don't ship > openoffice-source code either, right? > Actually, its quite usefull in the case above. I can get to the same place with a SRPM, but I have to go through a few extra steps. What was nice about the kernel-source rpm was that it contained the "patched" version of the sources with various default redhat configs in the config directory. Use rpm2cpio to plop this down where you want, copy in the proper config (or your own), and point your module sources at this kernel source tree, and your done. Cheers...james From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Thu Sep 23 11:58:55 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:58:55 +0100 Subject: bacula (which repository) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095940735.2755.29.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 12:22, Harry Putnam wrote: > Anyone have a url for the backup program bacula, that points to a repo > with it included? > > Googling hasn't turned it up other than buildlogs for bacula on Dag > Weir's. > > The sourceforge src.rpm of bacula seems to have spec.file problems I > don't know how to fix... so looking for something already packaged > that will work on FC[2/3]. Have you seen this URL? http://www.fedoratracker.org/ Any reason why you have posted this to the test list? -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 F: 0870 220 2178 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mark.bradbury at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 12:08:02 2004 From: mark.bradbury at gmail.com (Mark Bradbury) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:38:02 +0930 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1095881363.6652.4.camel@Mars> <20040922193155.GF7747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:54:52 -0400 (EDT), James Olin Oden wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:29:23PM +0200, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > How is it possible to build the Nvidia driver agaist the kernel.src? > > > > No. > > > > Nor can you build it against kernel-sourcecode for that matter. > > > > You can only build against the headers in /lib/modules/`uname `r/build, just > > like it was the case ever since RHL 7.0. > > (except that now the cheat of using another location no longer works) > > > Note, this assumes you are building driver for the machine you are running > on. If your building drivers for multiple kernels, building them using > the include directory in a configured kernel source tree instead of having > to actually have each of the kernels installed is much better. I have > built various build tools to support doing this for kernel modules in a > completely automated way. So when we update the kernels in our one-off > wonder distribution we just turn the crank and out pops module rpms for > all of our modules for each of the kernels in the distribution. > > > > Why is the kernel-sourcecode left out? > > > > because it is redundant and mostly pointless. We don't ship > > openoffice-source code either, right? > > > Actually, its quite usefull in the case above. I can get to the same > place with a SRPM, but I have to go through a few extra steps. What was > nice about the kernel-source rpm was that it contained the "patched" > version of the sources with various default redhat configs in the config > directory. Use rpm2cpio to plop this down where you want, copy in the > proper config (or your own), and point your module sources at this kernel > source tree, and your done. > > Cheers...james > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > I agree, There has been instuctions on making a kernel source tree on this list for a while but none that I have seen that makes a kernel-source-noarch-rpm ,The instructions seem to say how easy it is to build a tree in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD . So if that is the case why not have ia sorce rpm 'as we did before' as a download? my 2cents From dedman11 at mchsi.com Thu Sep 23 12:14:47 2004 From: dedman11 at mchsi.com (DHE) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:14:47 -0500 Subject: Megaraid Message-ID: <4152BE37.9090604@mchsi.com> Sorry, yes I was talking about the latest, FC3T2. I do not know if it is supported on any other distros. I have been searching the web this morning looking for some hints. The problem with this card is that it has so many aliases: HP 1Si Raid, Megaraid Express 200, Perc/Si ..... It is hard to find THE driver that I need. I tried just loading the LSI Logic MPT drivers that are native, but that does not work. I need the megaraid.o driver. Still searching ...... Dale Message: 14 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:44:59 -0300 From: Alexandre Strube Subject: Re: Megaraid To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: <1095939899.21442.11.camel at steelgoose.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Em Qui, 2004-09-23 ?s 08:35, DHE escreveu: >> Has anyone come up with a work around for installing FC2T2 on a system ^^^^^ You were talking about FC3T2, weren't you? >> that it does not support the older cards any longer. Fedora Core 1 >> installed fine, but the new T2 will not. Megaraid is no longer an option >> even if you try to manually install the drivers. The most drastic change between Fedora Core 1 and the post versions is the kernel, which is not 2.4.x anymore. Do you know if this driver is included in other 2.6-based distributions? -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group ------------------------------ From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 12:15:43 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:15:43 -0500 Subject: bacula (which repository) In-Reply-To: <1095940735.2755.29.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> (Douglas Furlong's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:58:55 +0100") References: <1095940735.2755.29.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: Douglas Furlong writes: >> The sourceforge src.rpm of bacula seems to have spec.file problems I >> don't know how to fix... so looking for something already packaged >> that will work on FC[2/3]. > Have you seen this URL? > > http://www.fedoratracker.org/ No I hadn't... nice but it turns up goose eggs for bacula and I'm pretty sure one of the extras repos has it. Google doesn't know about it though. > Any reason why you have posted this to the test list? I thought it would be obvious its a test machine. From dedman11 at mchsi.com Thu Sep 23 12:20:10 2004 From: dedman11 at mchsi.com (DHE) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:20:10 -0500 Subject: Megaraid In-Reply-To: <4152BE37.9090604@mchsi.com> References: <4152BE37.9090604@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <4152BF7A.2010607@mchsi.com> It is TOO early in the AM. One of the aliases below is wrong: the PERC/Si should have been : PERC2/SE (Dell) DHE wrote: > Sorry, yes I was talking about the latest, FC3T2. > > I do not know if it is supported on any other distros. I have been > searching the web this morning looking for some hints. > > The problem with this card is that it has so many aliases: HP 1Si Raid, > Megaraid Express 200, Perc/Si ..... > > It is hard to find THE driver that I need. > > I tried just loading the LSI Logic MPT drivers that are native, but that > does not work. I need the megaraid.o driver. > > Still searching ...... > > > Dale > > Message: 14 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:44:59 -0300 From: Alexandre Strube > Subject: Re: Megaraid To: For testers of > Fedora Core development releases > Message-ID: <1095939899.21442.11.camel at steelgoose.com> Content-Type: > text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Em Qui, 2004-09-23 ?s 08:35, DHE escreveu: > > >> Has anyone come up with a work around for installing FC2T2 on a system > > ^^^^^ > You were talking about FC3T2, weren't you? > > > >> that it does not support the older cards any longer. Fedora Core 1 > >> installed fine, but the new T2 will not. Megaraid is no longer an > option > >> even if you try to manually install the drivers. > > > The most drastic change between Fedora Core 1 and the post versions is > the kernel, which is not 2.4.x anymore. Do you know if this driver is > included in other 2.6-based distributions? > > -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto > Group ------------------------------ > From ernesto at ornl.gov Thu Sep 23 12:30:45 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:30:45 -0400 Subject: Regarding DVD Size Message-ID: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA804@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Mazli Alias Sent: Wed 9/22/2004 6:49 PM To: Gordon McCague; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Regarding DVD Size Gordon McCague wrote: >The file I downloaded yesterday from Limestone was 2GB. I'm now using >wget in WinXP which is reporting a 389MB file size. I think this is a >limitation of FTP. > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Norman Zhang >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:07:57 -0700 >Subject: Re: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size > >Thanks. I was trying to get, > >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/iso/FC2-i386-DVD.iso > >Now I'm trying to download > >ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso > >it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded >to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. > >Regards, >Norman > > > >>Of course not. You're getting partial download. >> >> >> >>>I'm trying to download FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso. Is the size suppose to >>>be 380.7MB? >>> >>> > > > If u still have problem try download the cdrom iso's. It usually works. Try wget to download the DVD image. That worked for me. Next I will burn to DVD and try to install it. Thanks, Ernesto -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Thu Sep 23 12:47:12 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:47:12 +0100 Subject: bacula (which repository) In-Reply-To: References: <1095940735.2755.29.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <1095943631.2755.32.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 13:15, Harry Putnam wrote: > Douglas Furlong writes: > > >> The sourceforge src.rpm of bacula seems to have spec.file problems I > >> don't know how to fix... so looking for something already packaged > >> that will work on FC[2/3]. > > Have you seen this URL? > > > > http://www.fedoratracker.org/ > > No I hadn't... nice but it turns up goose eggs for bacula and I'm > pretty sure one of the extras repos has it. Google doesn't know about > it though. I know (should have mentioned it didn't have it) however, thought it may be of interest just in case you hadn't. > > Any reason why you have posted this to the test list? > > I thought it would be obvious its a test machine. Funnily enough, I never went to the telepathy class at school, thought I'd give it a miss for telekinesis, figured it would help me in my ambitions to be come a sloth. -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 F: 0870 220 2178 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm now using >>wget in WinXP which is reporting a 389MB file size. I think this is a >>limitation of FTP. >> >> >>---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>From: Norman Zhang >>To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:07:57 -0700 >>Subject: Re: FC3 Test2 DVD Image Size >> >>Thanks. I was trying to get, >> >>http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/iso/FC2-i386-DVD.iso >> >>Now I'm trying to download >> >>ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/test/2.91/i386/iso/FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso >> >>it still says 380.7MB in Firefox. Is the image currently being uploaded >>to the mirrors? Maybe I can try again later. >> >>Regards, >>Norman >> >> >> >> >>>Of course not. You're getting partial download. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I'm trying to download FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso. Is the size suppose to >>>>be 380.7MB? >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > If u still have problem try download the cdrom iso's. It usually works. > > > Try wget to download the DVD image. That worked for me. Next I will burn to DVD and try to install it. Looking at the URL you supplied with Mozilla 1.7.3 under both Linux and Win2000 report 4574982 KB --------------------------------------------------------- FC3-test2-i386-DVD.iso 4574982 KB 9/16/2004 5:04:00 AM --------------------------------------------------------- which seems correct to me- Try using commandline FTP, wget or recent Mozzi. ron From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Thu Sep 23 12:59:39 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:59:39 -0500 Subject: Anti-Aliased Fonts and FC3T2 Message-ID: <4152C8BB.2000509@austin.rr.com> Since Fedora Core 2, I've always had a problem with anti-aliased fonts. The problem is that I could never get gnome and kde AA fonts right when using kde as my desktop. Whenever I would launch a GTK app, the AA fonts were rendered incorrectly. I would have to open up a konsole and type "gnome-font-properties" to get AA turned on for the GTK apps. That is still the case with FC2T3. How can get AA fonts turned on for GTK apps without having to manual do it? KDE AA fonts were horrid in FC2. However, in FC3T2 the AA fonts are perfect in KDE, better than gtk even. Observations When I recently upgraded my FC2 with XOrg 6.8.0 (non redhat), the font problem totally disappeared. I still had to manually type "gnome-font-properties" for the GTK apps, but they were rendered beautifully. This is on a ATI Mobility 9000 graphics adapter. Now, with FC3T2, the fonts are back to being rendered incorrectly between GTK and KDE. How can I fix this? Thanks, Byte From whb at ceimaine.org Thu Sep 23 13:00:45 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:00:45 -0400 Subject: cron as normal user - changed? In-Reply-To: References: <20040922055008.GD18721@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <20040922193136.GA4143@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095944446.10997.0.camel@cei3544> And the release notes should be updated. From mullens at ntlworld.com Thu Sep 23 11:58:53 2004 From: mullens at ntlworld.com (richard mullens) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:58:53 +0100 Subject: Planning partitions for an install Message-ID: <4152BA7D.90709@ntlworld.com> I propose installing FC3T2 to a system with two drives. On the second drive I would like to keep /home and my e-mail, and perhaps /usr/local What partition(s) should I choose for my e-mail so that when I reinstall, from scratch (not update) my mail remains intact ? (Or must I back it all up anyway). Would /var be an appropriate candidate for the second drive (so /var/www is retained also) ? Thanks Richard From whb at ceimaine.org Thu Sep 23 13:09:06 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:09:06 -0400 Subject: FC3t2 on older laptop hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095944947.10997.6.camel@cei3544> While I agree that the desktops have become more bloated... Quite often beta builds are slower and larger due to the way they are built for debugging. The open source systems at least give you a choice. If you want to, you can still use the light desktops from the past. Not ideal, but at least there is a choice. From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 13:08:45 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:08:45 -0500 Subject: bacula (which repository) In-Reply-To: <1095943631.2755.32.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> (Douglas Furlong's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:47:12 +0100") References: <1095940735.2755.29.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <1095943631.2755.32.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: Douglas Furlong writes: >> I thought it would be obvious its a test machine. > Funnily enough, I never went to the telepathy class at school, thought > I'd give it a miss for telekinesis, figured it would help me in my > ambitions to be come a sloth. Hehe... Maybe you missed the common-sense class too. Its really not an inordinate jump to think one might post on the `test' list about a pkg to use on a `test' machine. From rshewan at lio.aacisd.com Thu Sep 23 13:33:50 2004 From: rshewan at lio.aacisd.com (Rob Shewan) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:33:50 -0400 Subject: FC3t2 on older laptop hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4152D0BE.7070403@lio.aacisd.com> I second your opinion. There are many choices but MS Windows makes better use of resouces. I have a dual Pentium Pro machine with overdrive processor (333MHZ) and 512MB of memory. It can barely get out of its own way running Fedora Core 2. This remark doesn't apply to the kernel but many of the commonly used applications that many people use. You might want to try XFCE. It has enough features to keep me happy and weighs less. XFCE is available on the Fedora server. Harry Putnam wrote: >The good news is that FC3t2 installed without any problems on my >toshiba 4005CDS (circa 1998). I couldn't get installed using burned >isos although the same ones worked on a desktop. However after >burning the boot.iso and choosing and ftp install, it all went on down >smooth as silk. > >This machine has only 96mb of ram and 233 mhz of cpu.. That is not >enough for FC3t2 in full gui I don't think. I'm noticing loading the >gnome or kde desktop is really a chore. Almost feels like I'll see >smoke rising ... it seems to be working so hard. > >This machine is a dual booter that has had winxp win2k and win98 >installed... now running win2k on the other partition. What is a >little disconcerting here is that the win2k and winxp when it was >installed showed considerably more pep loading the desktop or the >browser and other heavily gui chores. > >I'm a long time linux user and am used to linux being faster than the >`other' os's. I think we are seeing a sort of bloatation coming on >due to peoples desire for heavily gui stuff. > >But then again... At least I'm comfortable at the cmdline so probably >won't use the linux gui unless I really need it. > >Its kind of sad though to see the passing of linux the lean mean >fighting machine. Especially when a full featured microsoft product >is able to out proform a full featured Fedora on lesser hardware. > >Just my observation of course, I have'nt bench tested or done any >really scientific comparison, but a huge delay getting logged into X >while the desktop takes form is definitely considerably slower than >the same process on win2k and winxp on this particular machine. > >Starting a terminal ... again a major pause. Browser... even worse. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I know what those are. Perhaps the labels should be the full words. Do others agree? Should I bugzilla RFE? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. - A computer is a device used to convert data into error messages. From janina at rednote.net Thu Sep 23 14:01:34 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:01:34 -0400 Subject: Planning partitions for an install In-Reply-To: <4152BA7D.90709@ntlworld.com> References: <4152BA7D.90709@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20040923140133.GA7960@rednote.net> richard mullens writes: > I propose installing FC3T2 to a system with two drives. > On the second drive I would like to keep /home and my e-mail, and > perhaps /usr/local If you really use /usr/local this is a smart move. I do, and have had no trouble. My apps in /usr/local just run after the install. Very gratifying. > > What partition(s) should I choose for my e-mail so that when I > reinstall, from scratch (not update) > my mail remains intact ? (Or must I back it all up anyway). Well, you should backup, of course. But, I have found it useful to create a /home/var and symlink spoolmail, www, and ftp from there. This helps me keep my content between disk reformats of / (/var, /usr, etc) and installs of FC. Works very well. Of course, there's some work regardless. I always backup /etc, for example, and restore my users with a diff from /etcpasswd and /etcshadow. Etc., etc. > > Would /var be an appropriate candidate for the second drive (so /var/www > is retained also) ? > > Thanks > Richard > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 From mark.bradbury at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 14:02:29 2004 From: mark.bradbury at gmail.com (Mark Bradbury) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:32:29 +0930 Subject: Yum updates Message-ID: Hi there I was just wondering after I upgraded yum i see this [root at pluto yum]# yum list updates Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files developmen: ################################################## 3500/3500 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree [root at pluto yum]# What I'm wondering is if the "Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree" is OK. as [mab at pluto ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) [mab at pluto ~]$ and /etc/yum.conf looks like [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=redhat-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ thanks for any help From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 14:09:30 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:09:30 -0500 Subject: bacula (which repository) In-Reply-To: (Harry Putnam's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 06:22:25 -0500") References: Message-ID: Harry Putnam writes: > The sourceforge src.rpm of bacula seems to have spec.file problems I > don't know how to fix... so looking for something already packaged > that will work on FC[2/3]. Just an update on this... The sourceforge *src.rpms do work. It expects you to edit the spec file and I didn't now what it really wanted. But then I found this helpfull page on bacula web site: http://www.bacula.org/html-manual/rpm-faq.html#faq1 That tells just what to do. I'm still having a dependancy problem but moving that to a different thread. From jonathansavage at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 14:16:47 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:16:47 -0700 Subject: FC3t2 on older laptop hardware In-Reply-To: <4152D0BE.7070403@lio.aacisd.com> References: <4152D0BE.7070403@lio.aacisd.com> Message-ID: <2ad7cea1040923071624f88f37@mail.gmail.com> > >This machine has only 96mb of ram and 233 mhz of cpu.. That is not > >enough for FC3t2 in full gui I don't think. I'm noticing loading the > >gnome or kde desktop is really a chore. Almost feels like I'll see > >smoke rising ... it seems to be working so hard. > > I'd expect that behavour considering your system specs. The release notes say: CPU Requirements This section lists the CPU specifications required by Fedora Core 2.90 Test 1. Note The following CPU specifications are stated in terms of Intel processors. Other processors (notably, offerings from AMD, Cyrix, and VIA) that are compatible with and equivalent to the following Intel processors may also be used with Fedora Core. o Minimum: Pentium-class Fedora Core 2.90 Test 1 is optimized for Pentium PRO (and later) CPUs, but also supports Pentium-class CPUs. This approach has been taken because Pentium-class optimizations actually result in reduced performance for non-Pentium-class processors. o Recommended for text-mode: 200 MHz Pentium-class or better o Recommended for graphical: 400 MHz Pentium II or better Memory Requirements This section lists the memory required to install Fedora Core 2.90 Test 1. o Minimum for text-mode: 64MB o Minimum for graphical: 192MB o Recommended for graphical: 256MB I'm running Test 2 on a Compaq Armada M700 w/ a 600 Mhz PIII, 256 RAM and performance is OK. -- Bests, Jon ---- ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>?. >>> ???`?.?. , . .???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>> > From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 14:21:07 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:21:07 -0400 Subject: more convenient place for release notes? In-Reply-To: References: <1095887724.3371.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <604aa791040923072117c998c7@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 04:09:28 -0400 (EDT), Robert P. J. Day wrote: > there's a prominent section there entitled "Fedora Core 3 Test 2 > Available". wouldn't it be useful to add a link to that paragraph to > the notes? A compromise... place a link to the release notes in the os tree in this page: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/test.html The page that lists the iso locations and the md5sums. A link to the release notes best fits here. -jef From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 14:23:21 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:23:21 -0500 Subject: Bacula dependancy of libc5 --whatprovides no clue Message-ID: Installing the bacula pkgs built from *.src.rpm from sourcforge and I hit one dependancy that a quick yummer won't solve. It says libc5 is required but I can't find anything that provides libc5. I thought maybe a compat package, but running a whatprovides against the database rpmdb-fedora-3-0.20040803: Gets no hits: rpm --redhatprovides libc5 no package provides libc5 Any clues what will fix this? From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu Sep 23 14:28:12 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:28:12 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Evolution Memory Hog In-Reply-To: <1095885414.4588.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095885414.4588.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1095949692.12065.328.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 15:36 -0500, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > How much memory is Evolution taking up? (i.e. is it excessive > memory > > usage that's causing the slowdown for you?) > ... snip ... > It's in general > > > We probably should take this to bugzilla. > > I'll file something later. Sounds a lot like http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124512 Have yet to be able to respond to the latest request for info from Dave Malcolm on that bug report as I can't get FC3T2/Evolution-2.0 to work on any of the platforms I have available for test. Perhaps you can add something there. Phil From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 14:30:27 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:30:27 -0500 Subject: FC3t2 on older laptop hardware In-Reply-To: <2ad7cea1040923071624f88f37@mail.gmail.com> (Jon Savage's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:16:47 -0700") References: <4152D0BE.7070403@lio.aacisd.com> <2ad7cea1040923071624f88f37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jon Savage writes: >> >This machine has only 96mb of ram and 233 mhz of cpu.. That is not >> >enough for FC3t2 in full gui I don't think. I'm noticing loading the >> >gnome or kde desktop is really a chore. Almost feels like I'll see >> >smoke rising ... it seems to be working so hard. >> > > I'd expect that behavour considering your system specs. The release notes say: > > CPU Requirements > > This section lists the CPU specifications required by Fedora Core 2.90 > Test 1. [...] Well, as I posted, I wasn't supprised by the phenomena.. and stated my specs were too low. The surprise was in the fact both win2k and winxp can do considerably better on that machine. At least in terms of laoding the gui and running gui tools. They are also somewhat slow of course... but considerably more peppy than FC3t2. From aoliva at redhat.com Thu Sep 23 14:35:22 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 23 Sep 2004 11:35:22 -0300 Subject: Up2date errors In-Reply-To: <4151BA8B.1020806@earthlink.net> References: <4151BA8B.1020806@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Sep 22, 2004, Gerry Tool wrote: > gcc35-gfortran-3.5.0-0.9 requires gcc35 = 3.5.0-0.9 gcc4-gfortran was missing an Obsoletes: gcc35-gfortran IIRC. > java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-1jpp requires libgcj = 3.4.1 This needs a rebuild. What I did was to rpm -e --nodeps it. Then, as soon as it's rebuilt, the corresponding -devel package will be flagged for update, and this will bring in the updated version of the above as a dependency. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 14:37:20 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:37:20 -0500 Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid Message-ID: Experienced users know how to get to fdisk during install if one wants or needs to skip around disk druid. Some things disk druid just can't do. An example might be to create two partitions on one disk with a little one in front of a big one. At any rate fdisk can do that so that is what I did. The rub comes in getting back to the installer. Ctrl + ALT + F2 (I think it was but maybe F3) Will get you to a command line where fdisk is available however I find no way to get back. C-A-F1 doesn't do it. None of the other available terminals do it either including f7. I tried it seveal times... restarting the install each time. But before going the Bugzilla route, I wanted to here from a developer or other knowledgable person if I'm just overlooking some other technique. From cylon at streamyx.com Thu Sep 23 14:39:17 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:39:17 +0800 Subject: FC3T2 Acronym Menu Items In-Reply-To: <1095946963.3242.6.camel@cei3544> References: <1095946963.3242.6.camel@cei3544> Message-ID: <4152E015.1040303@streamyx.com> Will Backman wrote: >Hadn't really thought of it before but looking at the Gnome menu, >Internet Items, I see IM and IRC. >I know what those are. Perhaps the labels should be the full words. >Do others agree? Should I bugzilla RFE? > > I believed its Gnome problem...not Fedora. From enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Sep 23 14:43:37 2004 From: enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Enrico Scholz) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:43:37 +0200 Subject: Anti-Aliased Fonts and FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <4152C8BB.2000509@austin.rr.com> (ByteEnable@austin.rr.com's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:59:39 -0500") References: <4152C8BB.2000509@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <873c19ujty.fsf@kosh.ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) writes: > Since Fedora Core 2, I've always had a problem with anti-aliased > fonts. The problem is that I could never get gnome and kde AA fonts > right when using kde as my desktop. Whenever I would launch a GTK > app, the AA fonts were rendered incorrectly. I would have to open up > a konsole and type "gnome-font-properties" to get AA turned on for the > GTK apps. That is still the case with FC2T3. How can get AA fonts > turned on for GTK apps without having to manual do it? You will have to execute '/usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon'. But beware: Gnome tries to rule the world and is very invasive. After this step, lot of your KDE and X setting will be overridden (e.g. keyboard setup, application fonts+colors, mouse-speed, screensaver, ...). See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117221 or https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=103521 also. Enrico From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Thu Sep 23 14:43:47 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:43:47 +0100 Subject: bacula (which repository) In-Reply-To: References: <1095940735.2755.29.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <1095943631.2755.32.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <1095950627.2755.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 14:08, Harry Putnam wrote: > Douglas Furlong writes: > > >> I thought it would be obvious its a test machine. > > Funnily enough, I never went to the telepathy class at school, thought > > I'd give it a miss for telekinesis, figured it would help me in my > > ambitions to be come a sloth. > > Hehe... Maybe you missed the common-sense class too. Its really not > an inordinate jump to think one might post on the `test' list about a > pkg to use on a `test' machine. That would require an assumption on my part that you were clever enough to know how to differentiate between the two, that's an assumption I am not prepared to make. I posted a reply with some helpful information, you are now aware of a site, that may not have helped this time, but may help in the future. I then added a second query to verify that you were actually using a test release, and were not one of the uneducated masses who just mail any odd list. A simple not sarcastic, non caustic response stating that you were indeed using a test release would have been sufficient. However, that seems to have escaped your abilities. I see nothing wrong with the check I made. This could go on for ages, but I can't really be bothered, I shall be sure not to offer any assistance to you in the future, to spare this list these inane responses. -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 F: 0870 220 2178 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From michael_seney at yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 14:31:07 2004 From: michael_seney at yahoo.com (Michael Seney) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Hostname won't stick Message-ID: <20040923143107.39773.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone ever have a problem with setting your hostname. Here is the deal, I dual boot w/ Windows XP which is ofcourse the first partition NTFS. Then there is a Fat32 Middle Partition and then my ext3 / a swap and /home which is ext3. For some reason it autonames my hostname upon installation gecko? I think Windows uses that? I wanted to make it something different and edit the /etc/hosts and made the 127.0.0.1 newhostname localhost. Used #hostname newhostname. Restarted X server and it took until a reboot? Any ideas why it wants to be gecko and doesn't like any other hostnames I want to specify. * I just put FC3T2 on this system and previously ran Debian Sarge with the hostname I liked without a problem. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 14:45:54 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:45:54 -0500 Subject: Wireless setup on FC3t2 Message-ID: Running Fedora Core3 t2 Kernel-2.6.8-1.541 I'm trying to get a D-Link G650 wireless (laptop) adapter to be recognized and set it up. But finding the wireless stuff is different enough from normal networking stuff that I'm pretty lost here. Watching dmesg I don't really see anything identifiable (by me anyway) as being about the wireless device. Anyone here with wireless experience that can help? From byte at aeon.com.my Thu Sep 23 00:41:21 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:41:21 +1000 Subject: Watchdog - i8xx_tco and reboots In-Reply-To: <1095886110.3371.7.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1095110819.27996.49.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <1095886110.3371.7.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <1095900081.21380.96.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 06:48, Scott Talbot wrote: > Thanks for this! I've been having fits trying to upgrade to T2 on my > MSI mobo with i850 chipset. Will you be filing Bugzilla soon? be a > good idea to let them know. It's already in bugzilla, filed under kudzu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132719 -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Sep 23 14:52:20 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:52:20 -0400 Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040923145220.GA14737@wolves.durham.nc.us> On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 09:37:20AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Experienced users know how to get to fdisk during install if one wants > or needs to skip around disk druid. Some things disk druid just > can't do. An example might be to create two partitions on one disk > with a little one in front of a big one. > > At any rate fdisk can do that so that is what I did. The rub comes in > getting back to the installer. > > Ctrl + ALT + F2 (I think it was but maybe F3) Will get you to a > command line where fdisk is available however I find no way to get > back. C-A-F1 doesn't do it. None of the other available terminals do > it either including f7. > > I tried it seveal times... restarting the install each time. > But before going the Bugzilla route, I wanted to here from a developer > or other knowledgable person if I'm just overlooking some other > technique. How about "f8"? There are many more virtual terminals than just f1-f7. :-) -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From camilo at mesias.co.uk Thu Sep 23 14:54:02 2004 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:54:02 +0100 Subject: FC3t2 on older laptop hardware In-Reply-To: References: <4152D0BE.7070403@lio.aacisd.com> <2ad7cea1040923071624f88f37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4152E38A.70600@mesias.co.uk> Harry > Well, as I posted, I wasn't supprised by the phenomena.. and stated my > specs were too low. The surprise was in the fact both win2k and winxp > can do considerably better on that machine. At least in terms of > laoding the gui and running gui tools. Sorry if I've missed a crucial part of the background to this problem, but... Check if you're running any daemons or services that are not available on other OSs. I turn off sendmail, cups, anything else I don't use. Also make sure the other OS is providing the same level of features, so you're comparing like with like. I have an ancient Win95 machine and it runs old apps acceptably, but struggles a bit with modern ones. I stopped dual booting it after I saw how slow FC1 was on it. -Cam -- camilo at mesias.co.uk <-- From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 14:53:10 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:53:10 -0500 Subject: bacula (which repository) In-Reply-To: <1095950627.2755.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> (Douglas Furlong's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:43:47 +0100") References: <1095940735.2755.29.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <1095943631.2755.32.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <1095950627.2755.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: Douglas Furlong writes: > A simple not sarcastic, non caustic response stating that you were > indeed using a test release would have been sufficient. However, that > seems to have escaped your abilities. > > I see nothing wrong with the check I made. This could go on for ages, > but I can't really be bothered, I shall be sure not to offer any > assistance to you in the future, to spare this list these inane > responses. There was nothing caustic in my reply... a little chiding at your joke is all... Sorry it rankled you. But realize that you were alread informed as to what I was running: >From my first post: "The sourceforge src.rpm of bacula seems to have spec.file problems I don't know how to fix... so looking for something already packaged that will work on FC[2/3]." There are only `test' versions of FC3 far as I know. You'll grow thicker skin after while. And as stated earlier, thanks for the URL. From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 14:55:29 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:55:29 -0500 Subject: Hostname won't stick In-Reply-To: <20040923143107.39773.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> (Michael Seney's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:31:07 -0700 (PDT)") References: <20040923143107.39773.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Michael Seney writes: > Anyone ever have a problem with setting your hostname. > Here is the deal, I dual boot w/ Windows XP which is > ofcourse the first partition NTFS. Then there is a > Fat32 Middle Partition and then my ext3 / a swap and > /home which is ext3. For some reason it autonames my > hostname upon installation gecko? I think Windows uses > that? I wanted to make it something different and edit > the /etc/hosts and made the 127.0.0.1 newhostname > localhost. Used #hostname newhostname. Restarted X > server and it took until a reboot? Any ideas why it > wants to be gecko and doesn't like any other hostnames > I want to specify. * I just put FC3T2 on this system > and previously ran Debian Sarge with the hostname I > liked without a problem. The command `hostname' is only temporary as you've noticed. Set it permanently here: /etc/sysconfig/network From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu Sep 23 14:52:16 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: <20040923145220.GA14737@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040923145220.GA14737@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 09:37:20AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Experienced users know how to get to fdisk during install if one wants >> or needs to skip around disk druid. Some things disk druid just >> can't do. An example might be to create two partitions on one disk >> with a little one in front of a big one. >> >> At any rate fdisk can do that so that is what I did. The rub comes in >> getting back to the installer. >> >> Ctrl + ALT + F2 (I think it was but maybe F3) Will get you to a >> command line where fdisk is available however I find no way to get >> back. C-A-F1 doesn't do it. None of the other available terminals do >> it either including f7. Alt-F7 gets me back to the graphical install just fine -- always has. rday From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 23 14:58:32 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:58:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wireless setup on FC3t2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Running Fedora Core3 t2 > Kernel-2.6.8-1.541 > > I'm trying to get a D-Link G650 wireless (laptop) adapter to be > recognized and set it up. But finding the wireless stuff is > different enough from normal networking stuff that I'm pretty lost > here. > > Watching dmesg I don't really see anything identifiable (by me anyway) > as being about the wireless device. > > Anyone here with wireless experience that can help? Perhaps you could post '/sbin/lspci' for this device Satish From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Thu Sep 23 15:10:17 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:10:17 +0300 Subject: gftp doesnt work In-Reply-To: <4152C75D.3060302@streamyx.com> References: <4152C75D.3060302@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <1095952217.2898.16.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 20:53 +0800, Mazli Alias wrote: > FC3T2-x86_64...gftp doesnt work..in fact it didn't work from FC2..the > current solution is compiling v2.0.18pre1 or is it just applies only on > x86_64 As a temporary solution (after I'll test it might become permanent, as gftp usability sucks), try using nautilus. In gnome 2.8 is has improved ftp support. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu Sep 23 15:04:36 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:04:36 -0400 Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095951876.12065.337.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 09:37 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Ctrl + ALT + F2 (I think it was but maybe F3) Will get you to a > command line where fdisk is available however I find no way to get > back. C-A-F1 doesn't do it. None of the other available terminals do > it either including f7. Odd. Either Alt-F7 or Ctrl-Alt-F7 works for me to get back to the GUI installer from VC #2 command prompt. Are you perhaps running text mode installer (on VC #1 IIRC)? Just tested on a machine currently running (yet another) attempted FC3T2 install. Have had problems on my problematic IBM Thinkpad A21p where the machine locks up when trying to switch VCs. Phil From ron.flory at adtran.com Thu Sep 23 15:04:02 2004 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (RON FLORY) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:04:02 -0500 Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4152E5E2.3000909@adtran.com> Harry Putnam wrote: > Experienced users know how to get to fdisk during install if one wants > or needs to skip around disk druid. Some things disk druid just > can't do. An example might be to create two partitions on one disk > with a little one in front of a big one. wow, I didn't know fdisk was still there, I really miss it. Druid ALWAYS (and I really do mean always) messes up my partition orders... > At any rate fdisk can do that so that is what I did. The rub comes in > getting back to the installer. > > Ctrl + ALT + F2 (I think it was but maybe F3) Will get you to a > command line where fdisk is available however I find no way to get > back. C-A-F1 doesn't do it. None of the other available terminals do > it either including f7. > > I tried it seveal times... restarting the install each time. > But before going the Bugzilla route, I wanted to here from a developer > or other knowledgable person if I'm just overlooking some other > technique. yes- I'd really like to know how to do this as well. Why not just put the 'fdisk' choice back in for those of us who don't need training wheels? ron From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Thu Sep 23 15:07:57 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <4151633F.8020207@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi, I had similar problems in installing, and once I rebooted after installing in text mode, X "worked". (For values of "worked" where things don't refresh properly on the screen). It's hard to explain the exact problem, but after logging into GDM, I don't see the desktop appear at once. Instead, I start seeing the icons from the gnome-session splash screen. (I don't even see the whole splash dialog at once). Then, for example, t when I bring up the gnome "redgat" menu, the menu may not actually draw, but as I move the mouse over each section, it draws in. Likewise with new windows, some don't "fill in". It seemed to me that the smaller things worked, but the bigger things didn't, so I assumed it must be some buffer in xorg or gtk not being big enough. (I didn't install KDE). I tried lowering the res and the colors, and updating xorg, all with no luck. The Video controller is: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (Rev 03) When I have a working web browser, I will search bugzilla for something like this... thanks, noah silva On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > F. Kooman wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 05:00, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >>Thanks for the confirmation that the GUI install problem was not unique > >>to my computer. I guess a bug report against the GUI installation > >>failure is warranted. figuring out how X works post-install is the most > >>important asect though. > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133010 > > > > Fran??ois > > That is the bug which is experienced on my attampts also. I didn't > attempt to specify the screen resolution given to the installer before > the installer launches. One suggestion was to specify 800 x 600 > resolution beforehand, > > I might look at how to specify this to the installer and try a 1280 x > 1024 @ 24 depth just to see what happens. > > I think that 800 x 600 should be default behavior for the installer > without needing to specify this to the installer. > > I added to the report also. > > Jim > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 15:10:26 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:10:26 -0500 Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: <20040923145220.GA14737@wolves.durham.nc.us> (Gregory Woodbury's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:52:20 -0400") References: <20040923145220.GA14737@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: Gregory Woodbury writes: > How about "f8"? There are many more virtual terminals than just f1-f7. I guess my post did seem as if I stoped at 7. But in fact I tried all of them. I mentioned F7 since it is a common one to return to X. I couldn't get back with any of them. However on the strength of your post I started the install cd again and tested it. Sure enogh F7 does get the install back. I'm thinking now it had to be something to do with the laptop I was installing on, because I used every key across the top trying to get the install back several times. From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu Sep 23 15:11:56 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:11:56 -0400 Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: <4152E5E2.3000909@adtran.com> References: <4152E5E2.3000909@adtran.com> Message-ID: <1095952316.12065.340.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 10:04 -0500, RON FLORY wrote: > Why not just put the 'fdisk' choice back in for those of us who > don't need training wheels? It's there. Ctrl-Alt-F2, fdisk /dev/hdX. :-) Agree - would be nice to have the choice in the GUI. Phil From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Thu Sep 23 15:13:54 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:13:54 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Acronym Menu Items In-Reply-To: <4152E015.1040303@streamyx.com> References: <1095946963.3242.6.camel@cei3544> <4152E015.1040303@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <1095952435.14544.2.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 22:39 +0800, Mazli Alias wrote: > Will Backman wrote: > > >Hadn't really thought of it before but looking at the Gnome menu, > >Internet Items, I see IM and IRC. > >I know what those are. Perhaps the labels should be the full words. > >Do others agree? Should I bugzilla RFE? > > > > > I believed its Gnome problem...not Fedora. > > Nope, its Fedora. For example, the gaim src.rpm contains a patch that changes the original menu name from: Name=Gaim Internet Messenger GenericName=Internet Messenger to Name=IM #GenericName=IM -- Ricardo Veguilla From ammyatmail at yahoo.co.in Thu Sep 23 15:13:22 2004 From: ammyatmail at yahoo.co.in (amit kumar) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: unable to install new kernel linux-2.6.8.1 Message-ID: <20040923151322.70721.qmail@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> while installing the new kernel i found certain errors.i 'll explain wat i did from the start: initially i gunzipped that file in the folder linux-2.6.8.1 in /usr/src/.then i form the bzimage of the kernel and also save it into the /kernel/mynewkernel/. in the samefolder i save the the System.map from the /usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1/.after that i did make modules and make menuconfig. after that i changed the menu.lst file of /boot/grub/.in which i wrote the following line title Linux 2.6.8.1 with all my new configuration root (hd0,8) kernel /boot/mynewkernel root=/dev/hda9 then i restart the computer i m getting the linux-2.6.8.1 but when i press enter on that it gives error in line 15. or cannot mount. who ever want to reply plzz reply ammy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From michael_seney at yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 14:56:51 2004 From: michael_seney at yahoo.com (Michael Seney) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040923145651.51497.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> I used DiskDruid on FC3T2 with no problems. I had already a Primary NTFS and a FAT32. I deleted my old three Debian Partitions and made new ones w/ whatever sizes I wanted. Maybe I'm not understanding your problem but I don't think you need FDISK. --- Harry Putnam wrote: > Experienced users know how to get to fdisk during > install if one wants > or needs to skip around disk druid. Some things > disk druid just > can't do. An example might be to create two > partitions on one disk > with a little one in front of a big one. > > At any rate fdisk can do that so that is what I did. > The rub comes in > getting back to the installer. > > Ctrl + ALT + F2 (I think it was but maybe F3) Will > get you to a > command line where fdisk is available however I find > no way to get > back. C-A-F1 doesn't do it. None of the other > available terminals do > it either including f7. > > I tried it seveal times... restarting the install > each time. > But before going the Bugzilla route, I wanted to > here from a developer > or other knowledgable person if I'm just overlooking > some other > technique. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From byte at aeon.com.my Thu Sep 23 07:20:23 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:20:23 +1000 Subject: FC3T2 (new kernel) Warning: unable to open an initial console In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095924023.24169.4.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 16:35, avl wrote: > After I download and compiled new kernel (linux-2.6.8.1.tar.bz2 > + patch-2.6.9-rc2.bz2)as usual > I have received the message at boot (Warning: unable to open an initial > console) and all stop. Seems like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132862 You need to make sure UDEV_INITRD is being used, and USE_UDEV to "yes" in /etc/udev/udev.conf Recall that the dev package is no more, so its all udev controlled now -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From michael_seney at yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 15:04:04 2004 From: michael_seney at yahoo.com (Michael Seney) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Hostname won't stick In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040923150404.11432.qmail@web61205.mail.yahoo.com> Ok, will try it when I get home tonight..Thanks!! --- Harry Putnam wrote: > Michael Seney writes: > > > Anyone ever have a problem with setting your > hostname. > > Here is the deal, I dual boot w/ Windows XP which > is > > ofcourse the first partition NTFS. Then there is a > > Fat32 Middle Partition and then my ext3 / a swap > and > > /home which is ext3. For some reason it autonames > my > > hostname upon installation gecko? I think Windows > uses > > that? I wanted to make it something different and > edit > > the /etc/hosts and made the 127.0.0.1 > newhostname > > localhost. Used #hostname newhostname. Restarted X > > server and it took until a reboot? Any ideas why > it > > wants to be gecko and doesn't like any other > hostnames > > I want to specify. * I just put FC3T2 on this > system > > and previously ran Debian Sarge with the hostname > I > > liked without a problem. > > The command `hostname' is only temporary as you've > noticed. > > Set it permanently here: > > /etc/sysconfig/network > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Thu Sep 23 15:30:04 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:30:04 +0200 Subject: Planning partitions for an install In-Reply-To: <4152BA7D.90709@ntlworld.com> References: <4152BA7D.90709@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <1095953403.3370.24.camel@littlePiet> Am Do, den 23.09.2004 schrieb richard mullens um 13:58: > I propose installing FC3T2 to a system with two drives. > On the second drive I would like to keep /home and my e-mail, and > perhaps /usr/local ... > What partition(s) should I choose for my e-mail so that when I > reinstall, from scratch (not update) > my mail remains intact ? Your email is stored in /home (in subdir evolution, I just don't remember the dir for KMail). The subdir /var/spool/mail and mqueue store mail only contemporarly, (as long as it has not been handeld by a local MA and only in the case you run your own mail server - not realy a candidate for Fedora Test anyway). > (Or must I back it all up anyway). A good idea (but I'm somewhat lazzy, too) > Would /var be an appropriate candidate for the second drive (so /var/www > is retained also) ? The LSB suggests to create a /srv tree which contains subdirs for www, ftp and all other services. You shoud create it on your second disk. You may consider to use LVM on your second disk in order to be able to easily resize partitions oder create new ones. I would avoid to clutter to much with the standard distribution tree. Peter From martin at hobgoblin.net Thu Sep 23 15:33:25 2004 From: martin at hobgoblin.net (Martin) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:33:25 -0400 Subject: Digest, FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: <20040923145359.C32457382B@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040923145359.C32457382B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4152ECC5.7050906@hobgoblin.net> "Ctrl + ALT + F2 (I think it was but maybe F3) Will get you to a command line where fdisk is available however I find no way to get back. C-A-F1 doesn't do it. None of the other available terminals do it either including f7." Did you try just Ctrl + F1 or Alt + F1? One or the other is the console version of Ctrl + Alt + F1, which is actually the GUI version (although as you've noticed, it has worked in both console and gui mode in the past). It's worth a shot. Martin From awol at home.nl Thu Sep 23 15:07:14 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:07:14 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite Message-ID: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> Anybody tried out the xcomposite extensions under xorg-x11-6.8.1 yet? I would like to experiment but do not quite understand what is needed. I tried adding an entry 'Section "Extensions"' to xorg.conf but this only resulted in windows with green borders and slow/shaky X performance. Do you need some sort of 'compositor' like xcompmgr or is there some 'stealth' tool in FC3T2 to manage the extensions? Alexander From dwalsh at redhat.com Thu Sep 23 15:36:57 2004 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:36:57 -0400 Subject: SELinux messages - useful? In-Reply-To: <1095912883.11662.24.camel@coeus> References: <1095912883.11662.24.camel@coeus> Message-ID: <4152ED99.2050800@redhat.com> Carl Gherardi wrote: >Hey All, > >My system has been upgraded from Fedora Core 1 through the various devel >releases, and finally to rawhide recently. > >I'm aware SELinux policies are under development, are output messages >appropriate for this list? > >I've been getting messages at startup from ntp at startup for quite a >while now, and haven't seen a change over several selinux policy >updates. (selinux=targeted) > >Running ntpdate give the following syslog messages: > >Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.237:0): avc: denied >{ search } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate dev=hda3 ino=2 >scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t >tclass=dir >Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.238:0): avc: denied >{ read } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate name=ld.so.cache dev=hda3 >ino=1622140 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t >tclass=file >Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.238:0): avc: denied >{ getattr } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate path=/etc/ld.so.cache >dev=hda3 ino=1622140 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t >tcontext=root:object_r:file_t tclass=file >Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.285:0): avc: denied >{ read } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate name=libcap.so.1 dev=hda3 >ino=2867274 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t >tclass=lnk_file >Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.298:0): avc: denied >{ execute } for pid=11758 path=/lib/libcap.so.1.10 dev=hda3 ino=2867230 >scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t tclass=file >Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.300:0): avc: denied >{ read } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate name=localtime dev=hda3 >ino=229407 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t >tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=file >Sep 23 11:58:01 coeus kernel: audit(1095911881.300:0): avc: denied >{ getattr } for pid=11758 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate path=/etc/localtime >dev=hda3 ino=229407 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t >tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=file >Sep 23 11:58:05 coeus kernel: audit(1095911885.649:0): avc: denied >{ read } for pid=11759 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate name=resolv.conf dev=hda3 >ino=229433 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t >tclass=file >Sep 23 11:58:05 coeus kernel: audit(1095911885.650:0): avc: denied >{ getattr } for pid=11759 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate path=/etc/resolv.conf >dev=hda3 ino=229433 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t >tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t tclass=file > >Which look different from bug id 132574 - the only thing I could find >with SELinux and ntp. > >Is this a problem with policy, pebcak or a product of the upgrade? > >Thanks > >Carl Gherardi > >PS: >My usb thumbdrives report >Sep 23 07:42:28 coeus kernel: SCSI device sda: 499712 512-byte hdwr >sectors (256 MB) >Sep 23 07:42:28 coeus kernel: sda: Write Protect is off >Sep 23 07:42:28 coeus kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through >Sep 23 07:42:29 coeus kernel: sda: sda1 >Sep 23 07:42:29 coeus kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, >channel 0, id 0, lun 0 > >No device is created in /dev - udev? rtm? > >Carl > >-- > >-- >This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. >Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NAUTRONIX LTD. > >If you are not the intended recipient, you have received this email in error and use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. 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From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Thu Sep 23 15:42:21 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:42:21 -0300 Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: References: <20040923145220.GA14737@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1095954141.1523.11.camel@preview> Em Qui, 2004-09-23 ?s 12:10, Harry Putnam escreveu: > I'm thinking now it had to be something to do with the laptop I was > installing on, because I used every key across the top trying to get > the install back several times. Hello, I had this problem with some savage-based videocards. It used to return me to a blank screen, where I could use after some ctrl-alt-minus. this is savage specific, as it happens with knoppix, conectiva, kurumin and debian also. In fact, I have to ctrl-alt-minus to begin installation. From sopwith at redhat.com Thu Sep 23 15:44:46 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3Test2 I2O install problem (anaconda) In-Reply-To: <41527E4C.8020008@alfar.co.uk> References: <1095922486.4588.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <41527E4C.8020008@alfar.co.uk> Message-ID: Hey, thanks for the bug report. One thing that needs to be emphasized is that unless this gets reported in bugzilla, it's very likely to be lost. >>> All bugs need to be reported in bugzilla so they can be tracked and managed sanely, and so that you can always find out exactly what the status of a fix is. <<< Cheers, -- Elliot We're so busy putting out fires that we don't take time to stop kids from playing with matches. On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Dave wrote: > > Not kernel related this time! > > Device inodes are not being created properly by anaconda, instead of: > > /dev/i2o/hda 80, 0 > /dev/i2o/hda1 80, 1 > ... > /dev/i2o/hda9 80, 9 > > I'm seeing: > > /dev/i2o/hda 80, 0 > /dev/i2o/hdap1 80, 0 > ... > /dev/i2o/hdap9 80, 0 > > causing the install to fail with no hard drives found. Creating the devices > manually allows the install to proceed as normal: > > mknod /dev/i2o/hda1 b 80 1 > mknod /dev/i2o/hda2 b 80 2 > ... > mknod /dev/i2o/hda9 b 80 9 > > Technical discussion below - should I take this across to anaconda-devel > and/or bugzilla, or is a relevant party listening in? > > isys/devnodes.c, devMakeInode() cannot determine minor device number since > devName[7] is always 'p' - Assuming fsset.py formatDevice() is correct, I > believe (UNTESTED!) the bug is in loader2/getparts.c, isPartitionName(): > > (1) Either do this: > > --- loader2/getparts.c 2004-09-23 01:48:30.000000000 +0100 > +++ loader2/getparts.c 2004-09-23 01:48:53.000000000 +0100 > @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ > return 0; > > /* if it has a '/' in it then treat it specially */ > - if (strchr(pname, '/') && !strstr(pname, "iseries")) { > + if (strchr(pname, '/') && !strstr(pname, "iseries") && !strstr(pname, > "i2o")) { > /* assume its either a /dev/ida/ or /dev/cciss device */ > /* these have form of c?d?p? if its a partition */ > return strchr(pname, 'p') != NULL; > > (2) Or instead of excluding devices that don't have the form c?d?p?, why not > just include those that do?: > > --- loader2/getparts.c 2004-09-23 01:48:30.000000000 +0100 > +++ loader2/getparts.c 2004-09-23 01:53:40.000000000 +0100 > @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ > return 0; > > /* if it has a '/' in it then treat it specially */ > - if (strchr(pname, '/') && !strstr(pname, "iseries")) { > + if (strstr(pname, "ida/") || strstr(pname, "cciss/")) { > /* assume its either a /dev/ida/ or /dev/cciss device */ > /* these have form of c?d?p? if its a partition */ > return strchr(pname, 'p') != NULL; > > (1) is less likely to break existing behaviour, (2) seems more sensible (but > still ugly in the long term) - take your pick. NB - I've not had a chance to > rebuild anaconda to test this yet since I'm currently without a suitable build > platform. > > From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Thu Sep 23 15:49:28 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:49:28 -0300 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095954568.1959.16.camel@preview> Em Qui, 2004-09-23 ?s 12:07, Noah Silva [Mailing list] escreveu: > menu, the menu may not actually draw, but as I move the mouse over each > section, it draws in. Likewise with new windows, some don't "fill in". I had this trouble on an older machine, and, as the video card is on-board, it turned to be a unhappy combination of a bad ram module with incorrect memory settings. The strange thing is that the machine worked more or less ok apart from that. From ron.flory at adtran.com Thu Sep 23 16:01:22 2004 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (RON FLORY) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:01:22 -0500 Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: <1095952316.12065.340.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <4152E5E2.3000909@adtran.com> <1095952316.12065.340.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <4152F352.7070108@adtran.com> Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 10:04 -0500, RON FLORY wrote: > >> Why not just put the 'fdisk' choice back in for those of us who >>don't need training wheels? > > > It's there. Ctrl-Alt-F2, fdisk /dev/hdX. :-) Nice to know that. I just assumed that when they removed it from the installer back in RH8 or so, they also removed it from the disk image to save space. I should have checked... ron From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 16:09:48 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:09:48 -0500 Subject: Wireless setup on FC3t2 In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:58:32 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: >> Anyone here with wireless experience that can help? > > Perhaps you could post '/sbin/lspci' for this device Good.. And I hope this isn't confusing things but I stuck in my old nic and cat5 so I could ssh in for the outputs. However I booted it first with the wireless alone and captured both dmesg and lpsci to file before sticking in the other nic. Running lspci again after the other NIC is inserted doesn't cause any changes anyway it turns out. A diff shows no change. lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 02) 00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems ToPIC97 (rev 05) 00:02.1 CardBus bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems ToPIC97 (rev 05) 00:04.0 VGA compatible controller: Chips and Technologies F65555 HiQVPro (rev c6) 00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:0a.0 Communication controller: Toshiba America Info Systems FIR Port (rev 23) 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) Dmesg posted here: http://www.jtan.com/~reader/display_msg.shtml From terraformers at gmx.net Thu Sep 23 16:10:36 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:10:36 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> Message-ID: Alexander Volovics wrote: > Anybody tried out the xcomposite extensions under xorg-x11-6.8.1 yet? > I would like to experiment but do not quite understand what is needed. > > I tried adding an entry 'Section "Extensions"' to xorg.conf but > this only resulted in windows with green borders and slow/shaky > X performance. > > Do you need some sort of 'compositor' like xcompmgr or is there > some 'stealth' tool in FC3T2 to manage the extensions? > > Alexander > > hi im running it with the xcompmgr and it's working great with nvidia hw acceleration. in /etc/X11/xorg.conf i had to add: Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection and in the nvidia device section of the same file: Option "RenderAccel" "on" after restarting X one needs the xcompmgr get it with: cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs at cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xapps login cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs at pdx.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xapps co xcompmgr make it, and start it with "xcompmgr -c -f -F" when X is running. now you should get nice eye candy, like dropshadows and that great fading effect. :) i guess other graphic cards work with this too, but i dont know how good their hw accelerated render extensions are. minor thing that doesn't work here are opengl windows. they have bad overlays and tend to crash the xcompmgr. but nvidia said that they are working to refine the hw extensions in their driver. hope this helps lars From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 16:17:45 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:17:45 -0500 Subject: FC3t2 installer and disk druid In-Reply-To: <20040923145651.51497.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> (Michael Seney's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:56:51 -0700 (PDT)") References: <20040923145651.51497.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Michael Seney writes: > I used DiskDruid on FC3T2 with no problems. I had > already a Primary NTFS and a FAT32. I deleted my old > three Debian Partitions and made new ones w/ whatever > sizes I wanted. Maybe I'm not understanding your > problem but I don't think you need FDISK. > > --- Harry Putnam wrote: yeah I do... but my reasons aren't really related to this thread. Disk druid cannot do this: fdisk -l /dev/hdc [...] /dev/hdc1 397 996 4819500 5 Extended /dev/hdc5 397 433 297171 82 Linux swap /dev/hdc6 434 996 4522266 83 Linux That is, put the small logical swap partition ahead of the larger logical partition on hdc6. when you try to do that it relocates the smaller partition after the larger thus moving from hdc5 to hdc6. I wanted a certain pattern here in order to facilitate ghosting partitions to other machines already laid out. But even without needing to do that, fdisk is much faster and more precise than diskdruid. But of course that is only true for experienced users. From balay at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 23 16:21:37 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:21:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wireless setup on FC3t2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Satish Balay writes: > > >> Anyone here with wireless experience that can help? > > > > Perhaps you could post '/sbin/lspci' for this device > 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) Well you'll have to install the madwifi driver (I believe this is discussed earlier) - get source from cvs http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=82936 - patch it for kernel-2.6.8 changes http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1009293&group_id=82936&atid=567755 - build & install the driver make make install - Now load the driver and see if it works modprobe ath_pci I had briefly tested this with rawhide (during the FC2T3 freeze) with kernel-541 - and it worked fine with my Atheros device. Satish From michal at harddata.com Thu Sep 23 16:31:53 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:31:53 -0600 Subject: Bacula dependancy of libc5 --whatprovides no clue In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 09:23:21AM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20040923103153.A23256@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 09:23:21AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Installing the bacula pkgs built from *.src.rpm from sourcforge and I > hit one dependancy that a quick yummer won't solve. > > It says libc5 is required but I can't find anything that provides > libc5. Are you sure that you build that from sources? It is hard to imagine how you could get such dependency that way unless that "source" actually includes some binary blobs. Otherwise this dependency is bogus (very old specs?). > Any clues what will fix this? http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libc5 lists at least one such package. You will need also 'ld.so' (probably 'ld.so-1.9.5' or something like that). You actually have a pretty good chance that this will work on your test installation although it will take an extra memory. If you truly need libc5 this is an archeological computing. It would be interesting to know results. :-) Michal From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Thu Sep 23 16:57:03 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <1095954568.1959.16.camel@preview> Message-ID: Hi, > > menu, the menu may not actually draw, but as I move the mouse over each > > section, it draws in. Likewise with new windows, some don't "fill in". > > I had this trouble on an older machine, and, as the video card is > on-board, it turned to be a unhappy combination of a bad ram module with > incorrect memory settings. The strange thing is that the machine worked > more or less ok apart from that. Thanks for the information - somehow, though, I have problems believing it is the RAM in this case, since it works fine with FC2, Suse, and windows. thanks, noah silva On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Alexandre Strube wrote: From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 17:05:16 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:05:16 -0500 Subject: Bacula dependancy of libc5 --whatprovides no clue In-Reply-To: <20040923103153.A23256@mail.harddata.com> (Michal Jaegermann's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:31:53 -0600") References: <20040923103153.A23256@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: Michal Jaegermann writes: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 09:23:21AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Installing the bacula pkgs built from *.src.rpm from sourcforge and I >> hit one dependancy that a quick yummer won't solve. >> >> It says libc5 is required but I can't find anything that provides >> libc5. > > Are you sure that you build that from sources? It is hard to > imagine how you could get such dependency that way unless that > "source" actually includes some binary blobs. Otherwise this > dependency is bogus (very old specs?). No not from `source' but as I said from `*.src.rpm.' The ones on sourceforge. bacula-1.34.6-1.src.rpm at: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=50727 > http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libc5 > truly need libc5 this is an archeological computing. It would > be interesting to know results. :-) Do you think I could just remove that requires... I don't really know how but if I follow along the .spec I guess it will be apparent somewhere. From gstool at earthlink.net Thu Sep 23 17:09:41 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:09:41 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 startup - Starting smartd [Failed] Message-ID: <41530355.9020009@earthlink.net> During FC3T2 boot up, I get the message that Starting smartd failed. Do others see this? It starts fine when I boot to FC2. Gerry From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 17:08:41 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:08:41 -0500 Subject: Wireless setup on FC3t2 In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:21:37 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: >> >> Anyone here with wireless experience that can help? >> > >> > Perhaps you could post '/sbin/lspci' for this device > >> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) > > Well you'll have to install the madwifi driver (I believe this is > discussed earlier) [...] snipped nifty outline Yes it was and .. egad.. I even read that about a week ago then promptly forgot all about it. You're outline is really a nice little summary... makes it a lot simpler... thanks. From perbj at stanford.edu Thu Sep 23 17:34:14 2004 From: perbj at stanford.edu (Per Bjornsson) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:34:14 -0700 Subject: FC3T2 startup - Starting smartd [Failed] In-Reply-To: <41530355.9020009@earthlink.net> References: <41530355.9020009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1095960854.2901.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 10:09, Gerry Tool wrote: > During FC3T2 boot up, I get the message that Starting smartd failed. Do > others see this? > > It starts fine when I boot to FC2. Are the /etc/smartd.conf files for the two installations different? If you don't specify any disks in that file, smartd scans the IDE bus but quits as soon as it finds a disk that is not S.M.A.R.T. capable. this can e.g. be an optical drive. If the first drive it finds is not S.M.A.R.T. capable, it exits and gives you the failure message. You can try putting a listing of your hard disks in /etc/smartd.conf ; the default (completely commented out) config file should have enough tips to figure out what you need to put in there. Or if you don't care about monitoring your disk health,just forget about it, maybe chkconfig smartd off so you don't get the annoying failure on startup. But don't blame me when your hard disks crash without warning you first! ;) (In all honesty, I'm not all that convinced that S.M.A.R.T. monitoring really does all that much good - are most disk failures gradual or catastrophic? I'd assume that S.M.A.R.T. can only help you detect the former...) Cheers, Per -- Per Bjornsson Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University From michal at harddata.com Thu Sep 23 17:35:01 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:35:01 -0600 Subject: Bacula dependancy of libc5 --whatprovides no clue In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 12:05:16PM -0500 References: <20040923103153.A23256@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040923113501.A26101@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 12:05:16PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Michal Jaegermann writes: > > > Are you sure that you build that from sources? > > No not from `source' but as I said from `*.src.rpm.' Eh? Could you explain that subtle difference? This is akin to saying "No, I did not build that from sources. I used 'source.tar.gz' for that." I have to admit that it escapes me why differences in packaging are important for you. Would be that opposite if you got that as .deb? > Do you think I could just remove that requires... I have no idea. I have not a clue why and how it got there. If somebody just listed it under 'Requires:' tag and it still compiles on FC then yes, you indeed can and should. Michal From michal at harddata.com Thu Sep 23 17:39:11 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:39:11 -0600 Subject: FC3T2 startup - Starting smartd [Failed] In-Reply-To: <41530355.9020009@earthlink.net>; from gstool@earthlink.net on Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 12:09:41PM -0500 References: <41530355.9020009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040923113911.B26101@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 12:09:41PM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > During FC3T2 boot up, I get the message that Starting smartd failed. Do > others see this? > > It starts fine when I boot to FC2. One of reasons could be that you have SATA drives which were hooked up "direct" in FC2 and through libata in FC3. libata does not provide SMART support yet. Michal From lsomike at futzin.com Thu Sep 23 17:41:48 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:41:48 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 startup - Starting smartd [Failed] In-Reply-To: <41530355.9020009@earthlink.net> References: <41530355.9020009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200409231241.48602.lsomike@futzin.com> On Thursday 23 September 2004 12:09, Gerry Tool wrote: > During FC3T2 boot up, I get the message that Starting smartd > failed. Do others see this? > > It starts fine when I boot to FC2. > > Gerry Same here, this just started with the FC3T2. With FC3T1 it just worked but I haven't investigated very thouroughly yet. Regards, Mike Klinke From lsomike at futzin.com Thu Sep 23 17:28:10 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:28:10 -0500 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200409231228.10069.lsomike@futzin.com> On Thursday 23 September 2004 10:07, Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > Hi, > > I had similar problems in installing, and once I rebooted after > installing in text mode, X "worked". (For values of "worked" > where things don't refresh properly on the screen). > > It's hard to explain the exact problem, but after logging into > GDM, I don't see the desktop appear at once. Instead, I start > seeing the icons from the gnome-session splash screen. (I don't > even see the whole splash dialog at once). Then, for example, t > when I bring up the gnome "redgat" menu, the menu may not > actually draw, but as I move the mouse over each section, it > draws in. Likewise with new windows, some don't "fill in". It > seemed to me that the smaller things worked, but the bigger > things didn't, so I assumed it must be some buffer in xorg or gtk > not being big enough. (I didn't install KDE). > > I tried lowering the res and the colors, and updating xorg, all > with no luck. > > The Video controller is: > Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (Rev > 03) > > When I have a working web browser, I will search bugzilla for > something like this... > > thanks, > noah silva The Xorg stuff is, well, less than optimum for your graphics controller: https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 Regards, Mike Klinke From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 18:20:26 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:20:26 -0500 Subject: Bacula dependancy of libc5 --whatprovides no clue In-Reply-To: <20040923113501.A26101@mail.harddata.com> (Michal Jaegermann's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:35:01 -0600") References: <20040923103153.A23256@mail.harddata.com> <20040923113501.A26101@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: Michal Jaegermann writes: >> > Are you sure that you build that from sources? >> >> No not from `source' but as I said from `*.src.rpm.' > Eh? Could you explain that subtle difference? This is akin to > saying "No, I did not build that from sources. I used > 'source.tar.gz' for that." I have to admit that it escapes me > why differences in packaging are important for you. Would be > that opposite if you got that as .deb? Not sure what yor are talking about there... My response wasn't supposed to be weird or a wise crack or etc. When you said `>> > Are you sure that you build that from sources?' I thought you must be asking if I had built it like ./configure make make install Where I might have used some tricky variables or whatever. I was simply saying I built it with rpmbuild -ba .spec from the *.src.file so using whatever is in .spec. Probably should have used the word `rebuilt' >> Do you think I could just remove that requires... > > I have no idea. I have not a clue why and how it got there. > If somebody just listed it under 'Requires:' tag and it still > compiles on FC then yes, you indeed can and should. It just appears like: Requires: coreutils, util-linux, libc5, bacula-fd Any way removing it allows the packages produced to install ok. I don't really know how to use it yet so not really sure its working. There is one thing else that strikes me as wrong or odd. rpmbuild -ba .spec built these: bacula-client-1.34.6-1.i386.rpm bacula-mysql-1.34.6-1.i386.rpm bacula-debuginfo-1.34.6-1.i386.rpm bacula-rescue-1.34.6-1.i386.rpm bacula-gconsole-1.34.6-1.i386.rpm bacula-updatedb-1.34.6-1.i386.rpm Subtracting the debug pkg. And all but one installs with no problems. bacula-client-1.34.6-1.i386.rpm produces this error: rpm -Uvh bacula-client-1.34.6-1.i38 6.rpm error: Failed dependencies: bacula-client conflicts with bacula-mysql-1.34.6-1 I don't get that, but maybe its because I don't understand how to use it yet. Maybe the client package is meant to be installed elsewhere. From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Thu Sep 23 18:24:52 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:24:52 -0500 Subject: Anti-Aliased Fonts and FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <873c19ujty.fsf@kosh.ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <4152C8BB.2000509@austin.rr.com> <873c19ujty.fsf@kosh.ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: <415314F4.3020305@austin.rr.com> Enrico Scholz wrote: > ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) writes: > > >>Since Fedora Core 2, I've always had a problem with anti-aliased >>fonts. The problem is that I could never get gnome and kde AA fonts >>right when using kde as my desktop. Whenever I would launch a GTK >>app, the AA fonts were rendered incorrectly. I would have to open up >>a konsole and type "gnome-font-properties" to get AA turned on for the >>GTK apps. That is still the case with FC2T3. How can get AA fonts >>turned on for GTK apps without having to manual do it? > > > You will have to execute '/usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon'. But > beware: Gnome tries to rule the world and is very invasive. After this > step, lot of your KDE and X setting will be overridden (e.g. keyboard > setup, application fonts+colors, mouse-speed, screensaver, ...). > > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117221 or > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=103521 also. > > > > Enrico > > Is there a default schema I can edit? Byte From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Thu Sep 23 18:29:58 2004 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:29:58 +0200 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: <20040922193155.GF7747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1095881363.6652.4.camel@Mars> <20040922193155.GF7747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040923182958.GA6397@neu.nirvana> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:31:55PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:29:23PM +0200, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > > How is it possible to build the Nvidia driver agaist the kernel.src? > > No. > > Nor can you build it against kernel-sourcecode for that matter. I wonder how I provide such packages for two years now ... (discussed on fedora-devel two months ago) > You can only build against the headers in /lib/modules/`uname `r/build, just > like it was the case ever since RHL 7.0. > (except that now the cheat of using another location no longer works) > > > Why is the kernel-sourcecode left out? > > because it is redundant and mostly pointless. We don't ship > openoffice-source code either, right? Hm, one of the posters wanted to patch his kernel, another to configure it. There aren't really that many patches for openoffice, nor is the configuration space of openoffice or any other package near that big as the kernel's. Obviously the use of the kernel sources and openoffice sources is quite different, and so is the need for it. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Alexander From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu Sep 23 18:52:48 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:52:48 -0400 Subject: yum kernel not updating Message-ID: yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:28 Reading repository metadata in from local files developmen: ################################################## 3504/3504 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion rpm -q kernel kernel-2.6.8-1.541 ls /var/cache/yum/development/headers/kernel-2.6.8-1.584.i686.hdr /var/cache/yum/development/headers/kernel-2.6.8-1.584.i686.hdr So, why is my kernel not updating? I tried setting exactarch=0, and I tried also yum install kernel. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Sep 23 18:55:25 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:55:25 -0400 Subject: yum kernel not updating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095965725.9656.64.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 14:52, Neal D. Becker wrote: > yum update > Setting up Update Process > Setting up Repo: development > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:28 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > developmen: ################################################## 3504/3504 > Excluding Packages > Excluding Incompatible Archs > Finished > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree > No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion > > rpm -q kernel > kernel-2.6.8-1.541 > > ls /var/cache/yum/development/headers/kernel-2.6.8-1.584.i686.hdr > /var/cache/yum/development/headers/kernel-2.6.8-1.584.i686.hdr > > So, why is my kernel not updating? I tried setting exactarch=0, and I tried > also yum install kernel. run: yum list kernel see what the results are. -sv From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 19:02:19 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:02:19 -0400 Subject: yum kernel not updating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa79104092312027cd0da3c@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:52:48 -0400, Neal D. Becker wrote: > rpm -q kernel > kernel-2.6.8-1.541 > > ls /var/cache/yum/development/headers/kernel-2.6.8-1.584.i686.hdr > /var/cache/yum/development/headers/kernel-2.6.8-1.584.i686.hdr > > So, why is my kernel not updating? I tried setting exactarch=0, and I tried > also yum install kernel. You need to read the daily rawhide reports. The kernel was reverted back to 541.. the 584 kernel is no longer in the development tree. So in this case... yum is behaving correctly -jef From michal at harddata.com Thu Sep 23 19:07:23 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:07:23 -0600 Subject: Bacula dependancy of libc5 --whatprovides no clue In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 01:20:26PM -0500 References: <20040923103153.A23256@mail.harddata.com> <20040923113501.A26101@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040923130723.A28537@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 01:20:26PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Michal Jaegermann writes: > > >> > Are you sure that you build that from sources? > >> > >> No not from `source' but as I said from `*.src.rpm.' > > > Eh? Could you explain that subtle difference? > > My response wasn't supposed to be weird or a wise crack or etc. > When you said `>> > Are you sure that you build that from sources?' > > I thought you must be asking if I had built it like > ./configure > make > make install So if a driver script in a form of a spec file does that, or something similar, for you (among various other things, of course) this is an earth shattering difference? Well ..., ok. If you would do 'rpmbuild -ta some_source.tar.gz' would be that compiling from sources or not? Yes, you can do that if tar.gz archive has inside a correct spec file. The real question was were you linking, directly or indirectly, with libc5 libraries. It looks from your description that this did not happen. > > rpm -Uvh bacula-client-1.34.6-1.i38 > 6.rpm > error: Failed dependencies: > bacula-client conflicts with bacula-mysql-1.34.6-1 Well, apparently you can have one or another. Quite possibly they do the same thing by slightly different means. There are probably some docs which come with all that stuff. But if its spec file still references libc5 that would indicate that this project was abandoned many years ago (which does not mean that the program is necessarily not working). Michal From terraformers at gmx.net Thu Sep 23 19:08:05 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:08:05 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <20040923184101.GA3213@home.nl> Message-ID: > Do you know if you actually need the nvidia driver with "RenderAccel" ? > Will it not work with the xorg-x11 'nv' driver? Do you need the fast > hardware rendering for the effects? haven't tried the nv driver, but with nvidia driver and no renderAccel the display gets too slow to be usable. so yes, i think one needs good hardware acceleration of the render extension to have a nice and fast display. cheers lars From ngc4013 at cox.net Thu Sep 23 19:22:37 2004 From: ngc4013 at cox.net (Bill Cronk) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:22:37 -0400 Subject: Reiserfs4 Message-ID: <4153227D.7060003@cox.net> I have been using reiserfs succesfully since I first started using Redhat-9, Fedora, and prior to that with SuSE. So far I have had far less problems than when I have experimentally used ext2 and ext3 to check read/write performance and recovery. So far I have not been disapointed in reiserfs and am looking forward to testing reiserfs4. The main reason for my post is to comment on problem I have been seeing when trying to install Fedora 3-t1 and now 3-t2, it wouldn't start the install once it reached portion where the disk formatting occured. I missed the fact that selinux=0 should be in the installation options when first starting. Silly me... now it works just fine. Bill From terraformers at gmx.net Thu Sep 23 19:28:06 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:28:06 +0200 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1095881363.6652.4.camel@Mars> <20040922193155.GF7747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: then it would be great to have an redhat kernel-patchset, so one can patch an vanilla kernel.org source to the same state as the redhat/fedora kernel.rpm. lars From adam at dynamicinteraction.co.uk Thu Sep 23 20:05:36 2004 From: adam at dynamicinteraction.co.uk (Mr. Adam ALLEN) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:05:36 +0100 Subject: Ximian Evolution Connector with SSL connections. Message-ID: <1095969936.18225.1.camel@elsol.zwan.mellon-collie.net> I can't connect to works Exchange server with Ximian Connector when using SSL. Before jumping into bugzilla wanted to see if anyone else has found problems with this. After not been able to connect I recompiled the src.rpm with --with-e2k- debug, then set E2K_DEBUG to 10 in a terminal The symptoms: - ximian-connector-setup, doesn't believe https://mail.server/exchange is valid, and keeps pointing at using http://mail.server/exchange instead. - Ignoring the fact that works server is only ssl- i end up getting some debug back in the terminal (just saying that access is forbidden!) - From evolution, setup of the account works. However when connecting simply end up with "a Network Error". - A tcpdump shows that a SYN, ACK happens but no data ever makes it anywhere. No debug from E2K_DEBUG is kicked to the terminal. Have other people found problems with Ximian Connector with SSL connected exchange servers. -- Regards, Adam Allen. adam at dynamicinteraction.co.uk pgp http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x553349DB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu Sep 23 20:08:53 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:08:53 -0400 Subject: Ximian Evolution Connector with SSL connections. In-Reply-To: <1095969936.18225.1.camel@elsol.zwan.mellon-collie.net> References: <1095969936.18225.1.camel@elsol.zwan.mellon-collie.net> Message-ID: <1095970133.21451.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 21:05 +0100, Mr. Adam ALLEN wrote: > I can't connect to works Exchange server with Ximian Connector when > using SSL. Before jumping into bugzilla wanted to see if anyone else has > found problems with this. Try grabbing the latest version of libsoup from rawhide. SSL support was broken until version 2.2.0-2 (which hit rawhide this morning) > > After not been able to connect I recompiled the src.rpm with --with-e2k- > debug, then set E2K_DEBUG to 10 in a terminal > > The symptoms: > - ximian-connector-setup, doesn't believe https://mail.server/exchange > is valid, and keeps pointing at using http://mail.server/exchange > instead. > - Ignoring the fact that works server is only ssl- i end up getting some > debug back in the terminal (just saying that access is forbidden!) > > - From evolution, setup of the account works. However when connecting > simply end up with "a Network Error". > - A tcpdump shows that a SYN, ACK happens but no data ever makes it > anywhere. No debug from E2K_DEBUG is kicked to the terminal. > > Have other people found problems with Ximian Connector with SSL > connected exchange servers. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From barryn at pobox.com Thu Sep 23 20:13:24 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:13:24 -0700 Subject: Reiserfs doesn't works! In-Reply-To: <20040922005656.GA28767@copilotconsulting.com> References: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> <20040922005656.GA28767@copilotconsulting.com> Message-ID: <20040923201324.GB5801@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 05:56:56PM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 09:43:55AM -0500, Timothy Sandel spake thusly: > > "linux reiserfs selinux=0" at the boot prompt. Make sure you use the > > selinux=0 here are you WILL have problems installing. > > Speaking of reiserfs, when will it finally be listed as a filesystem > choice during the install so we don't always have to remember to do the > magical incantation "linux reiserfs" when we boot the CD's? I have been > using reiser for several years and really like it but I always forget to > add that boot option the first time I go to install a new box. AFAIK it's going to happen when/if Red Hat ever decides to support it, and that's not going to happen until it works with SELinux. BTW, if (like me) you want to use reiserfs because you found it to be the fastest filesystem for your workloads under 2.4.x, you may actually want to use ext2 under 2.6.x (*not* ext3!). I haven't tried reiser4 yet, but ext2 under 2.6 is faster than anything else I've tried (JFS, XFS, ReiserFS 3.x, ext3, or (2.4.x and earlier) ext2). In fact, *much* faster than anything else I've tried. At least, that's my experience. If you're using reiserfs because there's less overhead than other filesystems, you may want to also consider xfs with 512-byte blocks. Unlike reiserfs, xfs works with SELinux. -Barry K. Nathan From reader at newsguy.com Thu Sep 23 20:40:44 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:40:44 -0500 Subject: Bacula dependancy of libc5 --whatprovides no clue In-Reply-To: <20040923130723.A28537@mail.harddata.com> (Michal Jaegermann's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:07:23 -0600") References: <20040923103153.A23256@mail.harddata.com> <20040923113501.A26101@mail.harddata.com> <20040923130723.A28537@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: Michal Jaegermann writes: > So if a driver script in a form of a spec file does that, > or something similar, for you (among various other things, of > course) this is an earth shattering difference? Well ..., ok. Not sure why you're having such a time with this. It seems self evident to me that a build controled by me with basic build tools is something different than what some else put in an rpm spec file. Fisr off... mine is likely to be very amatuerish. Thanks for your priceless input on this. It really bailed me out today ... I .. I feel all clean and new... or something. And if they ever organize a hall a fame for helpfull posters I'm nominating you. .. Nope don't try to stop me... you really deserve it. From perbj at stanford.edu Thu Sep 23 20:44:06 2004 From: perbj at stanford.edu (Per Bjornsson) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:44:06 -0700 Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM. In-Reply-To: References: <1095855775.4615.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200409221736.05140.fedora@warmcat.com> <1095872211.2613.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1095881363.6652.4.camel@Mars> <20040922193155.GF7747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1095972246.2901.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 12:28, Lars wrote: > then it would be great to have an redhat kernel-patchset, > so one can patch an vanilla kernel.org source to the same > state as the redhat/fedora kernel.rpm. That's pretty much what the kernel SRPM is: it contains the vanilla kernel tarball (the version of which is what is used to set the RPM version number) and the applied patches. Unpack it and have a look! Cheers, Per -- Per Bjornsson Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University From javaman67 at acd.net Thu Sep 23 22:47:35 2004 From: javaman67 at acd.net (Brian Craft) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:47:35 -0400 Subject: Unable to get the CD Database to work identifying audio CD's Message-ID: <41535287.4010502@acd.net> I'm running FC3 Test 2 and can't get the Gnome CD player (CD Player 2.8.0) and the CD Database to work together. The audio cd's work fine, but it won't go out and grab the information about the audio cd. Any idea's or anyone else having the same problem? -- Brian Craft Linux Counter id: 97873 Linux......the OS of Choice! From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Sep 23 23:29:22 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 00:29:22 +0100 Subject: Nautilus not respawning Message-ID: <1095982162.6155.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, A bug I've never been able to trace is occasionally the CPU usage bangs up to 100%. I can return it to normal by killing gst-thumbnail or if that doesn't work, killing nautilus both via the gnome-sys-monitor. Under FC2 and FC3t1, this would result in Nautilus respawning merrily. That's not happening under FC3t2. Has anyone else seen that? TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From cylon at streamyx.com Thu Sep 23 23:19:39 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:19:39 +0800 Subject: Reiserfs doesn't works! In-Reply-To: <20040923201324.GB5801@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> References: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> <20040922005656.GA28767@copilotconsulting.com> <20040923201324.GB5801@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> Message-ID: <41535A0B.6030505@streamyx.com> Barry K. Nathan wrote: >On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 05:56:56PM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote: > > >>On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 09:43:55AM -0500, Timothy Sandel spake thusly: >> >> >>>"linux reiserfs selinux=0" at the boot prompt. Make sure you use the >>>selinux=0 here are you WILL have problems installing. >>> >>> >>Speaking of reiserfs, when will it finally be listed as a filesystem >>choice during the install so we don't always have to remember to do the >>magical incantation "linux reiserfs" when we boot the CD's? I have been >>using reiser for several years and really like it but I always forget to >>add that boot option the first time I go to install a new box. >> >> > >AFAIK it's going to happen when/if Red Hat ever decides to support it, >and that's not going to happen until it works with SELinux. > >-Barry K. Nathan > > Just out of curiosity...does ext3 still have that 4GB file size limitation...if it is that would be problematic for someone who download dvd.iso From justin_georgeson at yahoo.com Fri Sep 24 00:22:52 2004 From: justin_georgeson at yahoo.com (Justin Georgeson) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3 on inspiron 2600 Message-ID: <20040924002252.99060.qmail@web20023.mail.yahoo.com> I'm considering setting up FC3 in a dual-boot configuration with a Dell Inspiron 2600 laptop and was wondering if anyone knows of any gotchas or unsupported hardware. From the cursory checking I've done so far there's the possibility of having Anaconda freak out and I'll get the a Fatal IO Error 104 from mini-wm during install, but supposedly text-mode install should work. Things I'm mostly curious about are power management features. What kind of support for powering down the hard drive and fan is there? Alsothrottling the CPU to conserve heat/power, and most importantly, s2d support. Am I going to have to look at the swsusp projects and pick one to roll in by hand, or has any effort been made to integrate one into the distribution? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From terraformers at gmx.net Fri Sep 24 01:04:55 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 03:04:55 +0200 Subject: fedora kernel can't boot from sata disk Message-ID: hi i'm trying to run a current fedora rawhide kernel without recompiling on my asus a7n8x-dlx mainboard with an sata reiserfs hd as the only disk. my recompiled vanilla kernel works fine, but the stock kernel with the fedora config can't boot. i guess it has something todo with libata/reiserfs modules not loading at the boot process. is it possible to force the modules to load at the boot line or something ? if not, is it at all possible to install/run an stock fedora kernel on an sata hd only computer ? thanks! lars From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Sep 24 01:44:20 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:44:20 -0400 Subject: mkinitrd conflicts: udev< 0:032 (x86_64) Message-ID: Need to update mkinitrd to fix problem of kernel ignoring root= command line. But yum doesn't want to update: yum update mkinitrd Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files developmen: ################################################## 3719/3719 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree Resolving Dependencies mkinitrd-4.1.12-1.x86_64. 100% |=========================| 29 kB 00:00 Error: mkinitrd conflicts: udev< 0:032 From cekvenich.vic at portalvu.com Fri Sep 24 01:58:20 2004 From: cekvenich.vic at portalvu.com (Vic Cekvenich) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:58:20 -0500 Subject: fedora kernel can't boot from sata disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41537F3C.8090403@portalvu.com> I had same problem, and I went to the store and got anIDE drive and installed it. .V Lars wrote: >hi > >i'm trying to run a current fedora rawhide kernel without recompiling on my >asus a7n8x-dlx mainboard with an sata reiserfs hd as the only disk. >my recompiled vanilla kernel works fine, but the stock kernel with the >fedora config can't boot. >i guess it has something todo with libata/reiserfs modules >not loading at the boot process. > >is it possible to force the modules to load at the boot line or something ? >if not, is it at all possible to install/run an stock fedora kernel on an >sata hd only computer ? > > >thanks! >lars > > > > > > From royab at bc.edu Fri Sep 24 02:05:40 2004 From: royab at bc.edu (Amitabha Roy) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:05:40 -0400 Subject: How to set wireless settings for 2 different locales (FC3 Test 2) Message-ID: <415380F4.1040201@bc.edu> Hi: I want to set up FC3 T2 to automatically connect to available wireless networks in two different locations, one at home and at office. At office, the network has an unadvertised ssid (call it "X"). At home, there is also a wireless network with an unadvertised ssid of "Y". Since the SSID is not broadcast, scans for available networks will not bring them up. None of these two networks have encryption. Both of these will use network device eth1, which is an integrated wireless card on a toshiba laptop running latest kernel 2.6.8-1.541 Problem 1) At office, when the network X is joined via iwconfig, the name of the machine changes and the display does not work. I need to restart the X server and log back in. I would want to avoid that Problem 2) At home, there are other wireless networks (neighbours) which are connected to (these obviously broadcast their ssid). So I have to manually do iwconfig eth1 essid Y. Again the problem, with the hostname. So how do I do this ? I want the machine to figure out whether X or Y is available on its own (whether I am at home or at work) without me telling it and I want any hostname changes not to mess up display. If in the process it comes across other networks, it should just ignore them. If I need to connect to them, I can do *that* manually. Thanks! Amitabha From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri Sep 24 02:09:02 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:09:02 -0400 Subject: mkinitrd conflicts: udev< 0:032 (x86_64) References: Message-ID: Neal Becker wrote: > Need to update mkinitrd to fix problem of kernel ignoring root= command > line. But yum doesn't want to update: > yum update mkinitrd > Setting up Update Process > Setting up Repo: development > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > developmen: ################################################## 3719/3719 > Excluding Packages > Excluding Incompatible Archs > Finished > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree > Resolving Dependencies > mkinitrd-4.1.12-1.x86_64. 100% |=========================| 29 kB 00:00 > Error: mkinitrd conflicts: udev< 0:032 > > > yum update mkinitrd udev seems to have worked. I thought yum was supposed to take care of dependencies without being told? This fixed the problem with mkinitrd - I finally can switch root to my other lvm. From maestronn at wowway.com Fri Sep 24 02:10:41 2004 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:10:41 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 startup - Starting smartd [Failed] In-Reply-To: <1095960854.2901.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <41530355.9020009@earthlink.net> <1095960854.2901.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <41538221.1080005@wowway.com> Per Bjornsson wrote: >On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 10:09, Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>During FC3T2 boot up, I get the message that Starting smartd failed. Do >>others see this? >> >>It starts fine when I boot to FC2. >> >> > >Are the /etc/smartd.conf files for the two installations different? >If you don't specify any disks in that file, smartd scans the IDE bus >but quits as soon as it finds a disk that is not S.M.A.R.T. capable. >this can e.g. be an optical drive. If the first drive it finds is not >S.M.A.R.T. capable, it exits and gives you the failure message. > >You can try putting a listing of your hard disks in /etc/smartd.conf ; >the default (completely commented out) config file should have enough >tips to figure out what you need to put in there. Or if you don't care >about monitoring your disk health,just forget about it, maybe >chkconfig smartd off >so you don't get the annoying failure on startup. But don't blame me >when your hard disks crash without warning you first! ;) (In all >honesty, I'm not all that convinced that S.M.A.R.T. monitoring really >does all that much good - are most disk failures gradual or >catastrophic? I'd assume that S.M.A.R.T. can only help you detect the >former...) > >Cheers, >Per > > > This what my smartd.conf contained: /dev/hda -H -m root at localhost.localdomain /dev/sda -H -m root at localhost.localdomain I'm thinking that /dev/sda is not SMART compatible since it's a card reader. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jonathansavage at gmail.com Fri Sep 24 02:14:41 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:14:41 -0700 Subject: How to set wireless settings for 2 different locales (FC3 Test 2) In-Reply-To: <415380F4.1040201@bc.edu> References: <415380F4.1040201@bc.edu> Message-ID: <2ad7cea1040923191475d0f82c@mail.gmail.com> >So how do I do this ? I want the machine to figure out whether X or Y is > available on its own (whether I am at home or at work) > without me telling it and I want any hostname changes not to mess up > display. If in the process it comes across other networks, > it should just ignore them. If I need to connect to them, I can do > *that* manually. I saw an interesting approach to this on bugzilla, you might want to have a look at that although it is more of an RFE than an actual bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132661 That does sound like something like what you are after though. -- Bests, Jon ---- ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>?. >>> ???`?.?. , . .???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>> > From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 24 02:18:58 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:18:58 -0400 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41538412.3050300@sbcglobal.net> Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > Hi, > > I had similar problems in installing, and once I rebooted after > installing in text mode, X "worked". (For values of "worked" where things > don't refresh properly on the screen). > > It's hard to explain the exact problem, but after logging into GDM, I > don't see the desktop appear at once. Instead, I start seeing the icons > from the gnome-session splash screen. (I don't even see the whole splash > dialog at once). Then, for example, t when I bring up the gnome "redgat" > menu, the menu may not actually draw, but as I move the mouse over each > section, it draws in. Likewise with new windows, some don't "fill in". > It seemed to me that the smaller things worked, but the bigger things > didn't, so I assumed it must be some buffer in xorg or gtk not being big > enough. (I didn't install KDE). > > I tried lowering the res and the colors, and updating xorg, all with no > luck. > > The Video controller is: > Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (Rev 03) > > When I have a working web browser, I will search bugzilla for something > like this... > > thanks, > noah silva > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>F. Kooman wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 05:00, Jim Cornette wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Thanks for the confirmation that the GUI install problem was not unique >>>>to my computer. I guess a bug report against the GUI installation >>>>failure is warranted. figuring out how X works post-install is the most >>>>important asect though. >>> >>> >>>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133010 >>> >>>Fran?ois >> >>That is the bug which is experienced on my attampts also. I didn't >>attempt to specify the screen resolution given to the installer before >>the installer launches. One suggestion was to specify 800 x 600 >>resolution beforehand, >> >>I might look at how to specify this to the installer and try a 1280 x >>1024 @ 24 depth just to see what happens. >> >>I think that 800 x 600 should be default behavior for the installer >>without needing to specify this to the installer. >> >>I added to the report also. >> >>Jim >> >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> > > > Your card is one revision newer than my card is. I have found that setting the depth to 24 and the resolution to either 1280 x 1024 or to 1400 x 1050 work without a refresh problem. I had no problems with running 1024 x 768 at 16 depth, except the crashing X when switching to a ctl-alt-Fn terminal, X died. Otherwise, cromium and tux worked fine if never going to a terminal. I've also tried out the radeon 7200 card as both primary display - 815 card secondary and with 815 primary, radeon secondary. See bug below for dual booting mess https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132791 Anyway, I'm attaching the 1400 x 1050 resolution for the 815 setup as single card. Both cards are still attached. You might find some portions of the xorg.conf suitable to start without the refresh mess. There is also a triaged bug for the i810 at the below link. This includes the noacceleration parameter for X. The bug I filed earlier was marke as a duplicate of this report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132267 I am getting sort of a vague refresh problem when highlighting test in moz mail. This is very minimal failure though. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xorg.conf-1400at24depth URL: From gstool at earthlink.net Fri Sep 24 02:28:02 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:28:02 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 startup - Starting smartd [Failed] In-Reply-To: <1095960854.2901.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <41530355.9020009@earthlink.net> <1095960854.2901.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <41538632.9020900@earthlink.net> Per Bjornsson wrote: >On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 10:09, Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>During FC3T2 boot up, I get the message that Starting smartd failed. Do >>others see this? >> >>It starts fine when I boot to FC2. >> >> > >Are the /etc/smartd.conf files for the two installations different? >If you don't specify any disks in that file, smartd scans the IDE bus >but quits as soon as it finds a disk that is not S.M.A.R.T. capable. >this can e.g. be an optical drive. If the first drive it finds is not >S.M.A.R.T. capable, it exits and gives you the failure message. > >You can try putting a listing of your hard disks in /etc/smartd.conf ; >the default (completely commented out) config file should have enough >tips to figure out what you need to put in there. Or if you don't care >about monitoring your disk health,just forget about it, maybe >chkconfig smartd off >so you don't get the annoying failure on startup. But don't blame me >when your hard disks crash without warning you first! ;) (In all >honesty, I'm not all that convinced that S.M.A.R.T. monitoring really >does all that much good - are most disk failures gradual or >catastrophic? I'd assume that S.M.A.R.T. can only help you detect the >former...) > > > Thanks for the tip. smartd.conf contained lines for my two drives hda, hde, and also for sda and sdb which are a usb cardreader and flash drive. Commenting the two sdx lines solved the problem. Gerry From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri Sep 24 02:34:46 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (maxer1) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:34:46 -0600 Subject: FC3T2 and sound card detection - never works until Message-ID: <415387C6.20808@xmission.com> Latest dev after FC3T2 upgrade. Here is what I have in modprobe.conf. This hasn't changed to my knowledge in over the last several iterations of Fedora: alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1 alias snd-card-1 snd-intel8x0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 I can get the sound to work after I go to either gnome-volume-control (unmute) or do a re-detect in system-config-soundcard after boot. Any ideas why alsactl store doesn't appear to be working at all? Is this a problem in initscripts? RaXeT From mullens at ntlworld.com Fri Sep 24 01:48:02 2004 From: mullens at ntlworld.com (richard mullens) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:48:02 +0100 Subject: Planning partitions for an install References: <4152BA7D.90709@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <41537CD2.2060700@ntlworld.com> Thank you both for making helpful suggestions and for pointing me towards Linux Standard Base and the File Heirarchy standard. Richard richard mullens wrote: > I propose installing FC3T2 to a system with two drives. > On the second drive I would like to keep /home and my e-mail, and > perhaps /usr/local > > What partition(s) should I choose for my e-mail so that when I > reinstall, from scratch (not update) > my mail remains intact ? (Or must I back it all up anyway). > > Would /var be an appropriate candidate for the second drive (so > /var/www is retained also) ? > > Thanks > Richard > > From terraformers at gmx.net Fri Sep 24 03:16:20 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 05:16:20 +0200 Subject: fedora kernel can't boot from sata disk References: <41537F3C.8090403@portalvu.com> Message-ID: hmm, so booting fedora from an sata only hd system is broken? lars Vic Cekvenich wrote: > I had same problem, and I went to the store and got anIDE drive and > installed it. > .V > > Lars wrote: > >>hi >> >>i'm trying to run a current fedora rawhide kernel without recompiling on >>my asus a7n8x-dlx mainboard with an sata reiserfs hd as the only disk. >>my recompiled vanilla kernel works fine, but the stock kernel with the >>fedora config can't boot. >>i guess it has something todo with libata/reiserfs modules >>not loading at the boot process. >> >>is it possible to force the modules to load at the boot line or something >>? if not, is it at all possible to install/run an stock fedora kernel on >>an sata hd only computer ? >> >> >>thanks! >>lars >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Sep 24 03:30:59 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:30:59 -0400 Subject: Yum updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095996659.29326.9.camel@binkley> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 23:32 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > Hi there > > I was just wondering after I upgraded yum i see this > > [root at pluto yum]# yum list updates > Setting up Repo: development > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > developmen: ################################################## 3500/3500 > Excluding Packages > Excluding Incompatible Archs > Finished > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree > [root at pluto yum]# > > What I'm wondering is if the "Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 > - Development Tree" is OK. yes - it's just a status output. -sv From mail4wal at yahoo.com Fri Sep 24 04:43:51 2004 From: mail4wal at yahoo.com (Wal) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3 on Dell Inspiron 8000 Message-ID: <20040924044351.24989.qmail@web41709.mail.yahoo.com> My experiences with FC3 on a Dell Inspiron 8000, with ATI 128 m4 mobility, 15 inch display- The Inspiron 8000 video and display really like to operate at 1400 x 1050 depth 24. I have had problems with other settings with several OSs. The anaconda GUI install process tries to use a video setting that does not work for this (and probably similar) laptops. I use text install and before bringing up the newly installed system, I use rescue or Knoppix to edit the xorg.conf settings to use- HorizSync 31.5 - 90.0 VertRefresh 59.0 - 75.0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1400x1050" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection NOTE- I may not have the best settings. I guess the anaconda mini-x stuff would need to use the 1400x1050 24 settings for the gui to work for this device. I installed the rawhide from 20040912 (kernel 541). It is working quite well- using wlan-ng for wireless with a Linksys WPC11 v3 with WEP shared keys. I got the orinoco driver to work also, just used iwconfig essid and enc to set the WEP - with orinoco, sometimes I had to down and up the card twice - seemed like cardmgr was too fast or too slow. I had 2 USB drives in at the same time - worked great - they were physically pushing against each other, but so-what - the udev worked fine - I have gotten used to doing: eject /dev/sda1 Compiled some packages I use - no problems. Really like that Firefox is already there and relatively current. Wish Firefox was "by default" on the toolbar next to Mozilla. The sound settings were at bottom (off), which is sorta nice. Simply had to use kde mixer to adjust the sound level. Haven't tried to power saving stuff yet. The sendmail daemon also seems so slow when booting - sometimes several minutes Since I dont need it, I disabled it. In fact, I disabled a lot. Was surprised to see auth (port 113) active - disabled it. Oh, I installed everything - used ftp. I did not have rpms for some packages, so I made a copy of a very small valid rpm and gave it the name skippackage.rpm and then did symbolic links when the installer complained about a missing rpm. The retry would succeed. Crude, but effective. Finally wrote perl script to go against the .listing file and create any need links. It would be nice to be able to select everything and deselect packages via regular expressions. Probably ought to be using kickstart (ks=). _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From rodd at clarkson.id.au Fri Sep 24 05:04:35 2004 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:04:35 +1000 Subject: yum kernel not updating In-Reply-To: <604aa79104092312027cd0da3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa79104092312027cd0da3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096002275.5304.3.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> > You need to read the daily rawhide reports. The kernel was reverted > back to 541.. the 584 kernel is no longer in the development tree. So > in this case... yum is behaving correctly Where does one find these daily rawhide reports? R. -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel From lsomike at futzin.com Fri Sep 24 05:20:04 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 00:20:04 -0500 Subject: yum kernel not updating In-Reply-To: <1096002275.5304.3.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <604aa79104092312027cd0da3c@mail.gmail.com> <1096002275.5304.3.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <200409240020.04825.lsomike@futzin.com> On Friday 24 September 2004 00:04, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > You need to read the daily rawhide reports. The kernel was > > reverted back to 541.. the 584 kernel is no longer in the > > development tree. So in this case... yum is behaving correctly > > Where does one find these daily rawhide reports? > > > R. > > -- > From the pain come the dream > From the dream come the vision > From the vision come the people > From the people come the power > From this power come the change > > - Peter Gabriel The fedora-devel-list Here's a link to archives on the daily reports and the subscription page: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-devel-list&w=2&r=1&s=rawhide+report&q=b http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list Regards, Mike Klinke From an037-0m26i at yahoo.com Fri Sep 24 04:39:43 2004 From: an037-0m26i at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:39:43 -0500 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 In-Reply-To: <1095940027.3323.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> <41528CCB.4080307@redhat.com> <1095940027.3323.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <4153A50F.3050700@yahoo.com> Timothy Sandel wrote: > sr_mod wasn't loaded. Didn't this use to load automagically? > > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 10:43 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > >>Timothy Sandel wrote: >> >>>My scsi dvd-rom is not recognized. Hanging off an Adaptec 29260 >>>controller. Any suggestions. >>> >>>Timothy >> >>How do you know? Did you load the sr_mod module? Did you look in >>/proc/scsi/scsi ? FWIW, I see similar behavior. I think the more accurate statement is that entries in /dev are not created for SCSI CD-ROMS. I can create them manually with MAKEDEV and they work, but they disappear after a reboot. I'm uncertain if I should blame hal, kudzu, or udev. It all worked with whatever versions got packaged into initrd for kernel build 534. Perhaps a related problem is that gnome-cd refuses to deal with audio CDs in the CD drive. I've got a Plextor CD-R attached to an Adaptec 29320. From arjanv at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 06:41:15 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:41:15 +0200 Subject: Reiserfs doesn't works! In-Reply-To: <41535A0B.6030505@streamyx.com> References: <41501D2D.6030105@streamyx.com> <1095777835.2688.3.camel@saturn> <20040922005656.GA28767@copilotconsulting.com> <20040923201324.GB5801@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> <41535A0B.6030505@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <1096008074.2612.39.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> > Just out of curiosity...does ext3 still have that 4GB file size > limitation... not since RHL 6.2 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From esclavosoy.ml at gmail.com Fri Sep 24 06:44:25 2004 From: esclavosoy.ml at gmail.com (Gabriel Moreno) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 06:44:25 +0000 Subject: Not able to install with reiser option or no format option Message-ID: <85e4e9640409232344672215b2@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I was not able to install FC3test2 when I selected not to format my aready reiserfs partitions. When I passed the linux reiserfs same thing happened. it got stuck right before installing packages. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Fri Sep 24 07:17:57 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 03:17:57 -0400 Subject: Yum Fails with this error message Message-ID: <4153CA25.1080700@rogers.com> Trying to update the development tree on my computer. Yum does everything ok, but when it tries to install all the rpm packages, I get this error message. I have tried about 10 mirror sites without any success. Why??? [root at www ~]# yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: rawhide Development Core repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files rawhide De: ################################################## 3504/3504 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux Development Core Resolving Dependencies Restarting Dependency Process with new changes Dependencies Resolved [i] gnome-netstatus.i386 0:2.8.0-2 - dep [i] gnutls.i386 0:1.0.20-3 - dep [u] 4Suite.i386 0:1.0-3 - user [u] GConf2.i386 0:2.8.0.1-1 - user [u] GConf2-devel.i386 0:2.8.0.1-1 - user [u] ORBit2.i386 0:2.12.0-1 - user [u] ORBit2-devel.i386 0:2.12.0-1 - user [u] SysVinit.i386 0:2.85-33 - user [u] acl.i386 0:2.2.23-5 - user [u] alchemist.i386 0:1.0.34-1 - user [u] atk.i386 0:1.8.0-1 - user [u] atk-devel.i386 0:1.8.0-1 - user [u] attr.i386 0:2.4.16-3 - user [u] autoconf.noarch 0:2.59-5 - user [u] automake.noarch 0:1.9.2-2 - 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When I passed the linux reiserfs same >thing happened. it got stuck right before installing packages. > > > > FC3 has selinux enable by default..try this at boot installation prompt: linux reiserfs selinux=0 From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Sep 24 08:11:15 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:11:15 +0100 Subject: wxWidgets Message-ID: <1096013475.20913.2.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, Will wxWidgets be getting shipped with FC3? It would be a definate boost if version 2.5.2 was included with the final shipped version. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From florian at ipes-ent.com Fri Sep 24 09:15:41 2004 From: florian at ipes-ent.com (Florian Idelberger) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:15:41 +0200 Subject: boot problems Message-ID: <4153E5BD.9050808@ipes-ent.com> Dear Fedora List-Members, during my tryout I experienced a couple of problems (upgrading from fc 2). First, I chose "upgrade existing boot-manager", but after the installation only my windows install was listed by grub. So I booted into rescue, chrooted and created an entry in grub.conf which at least showed up. It something like: title FedoraFC3Test2 root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img Linux resides on /dev/hda2, so I think the partitition is specified the right way, this being confirmed by a try to boot. When trying to boot at first everything seems fine, the kernel is found and starts booting. Then when the mounting and udev part comes, somehow the root filesystem can't get mounted, and I get a kernel panic like: "Kernel Panic! Tried to kill init!" Any suggestions? Every Previous version of Fedora installed just fine. (at least they all booted into graphical mode) Thx in advance, Florian From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri Sep 24 09:30:55 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:30:55 +0300 Subject: boot problems Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615FB1@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 24. september 2004. a. 12:16 Florian Idelberger wrote: > So I booted into rescue, chrooted and created an entry in grub.conf > which at least showed up. It something like: > title FedoraFC3Test2 > root (hd0,1) > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 > initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img > > Linux resides on /dev/hda2, so I think the partitition is > specified the right way, this being confirmed by a try to boot. > When trying to boot at first everything seems fine, the > kernel is found and starts booting. Then when the mounting > and udev part comes, somehow the root filesystem can't get > mounted, and I get a kernel panic like: > "Kernel Panic! Tried to kill init!" This is just a guess, but try adding a few parameters to the grub.conf kernel line: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=/dev/hda2 Fred From rpjday at mindspring.com Fri Sep 24 09:28:18 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 05:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3 on inspiron 2600 In-Reply-To: <20040924002252.99060.qmail@web20023.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040924002252.99060.qmail@web20023.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Justin Georgeson wrote: > I'm considering setting up FC3 in a dual-boot configuration with a Dell > Inspiron 2600 laptop and was wondering if anyone knows of any gotchas > or unsupported hardware. i've had good luck running RH/FC on both an inspiron 7500 and, currently, an 8100. i don't think you'll have any troubles. rday From harald at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 09:38:09 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:38:09 +0200 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 In-Reply-To: <4153A50F.3050700@yahoo.com> References: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> <41528CCB.4080307@redhat.com> <1095940027.3323.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <4153A50F.3050700@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4153EB01.10006@redhat.com> Allen Kistler wrote: > FWIW, I see similar behavior. I think the more accurate statement is > that entries in /dev are not created for SCSI CD-ROMS. I can create > them manually with MAKEDEV and they work, but they disappear after a > reboot. I'm uncertain if I should blame hal, kudzu, or udev. > > It all worked with whatever versions got packaged into initrd for kernel > build 534. > > Perhaps a related problem is that gnome-cd refuses to deal with audio > CDs in the CD drive. I've got a Plextor CD-R attached to an Adaptec 29320. > > Finally, I understand the problem: Normally, if you insmod a scsi host adaptor it causes several hotplug events, which are handled also by the scsi.agent, which loads the sr_mod or other scsi related modules. But if the scsi hostadapter module is loaded in the initrd, there is no scsi.agent and also no sr_mod... thus no device nodes are created.. Doh! In my opinion, if a host adaptor is loaded, the sg module should be loaded in any case, to enable generic scsi commands. We could replay some hotplug events on system start after initrd, to get the full hotplug functionality. This is already done by udevstart, but only for devices. Comments, ideas? From sedge at vtr.co.uk Fri Sep 24 09:38:46 2004 From: sedge at vtr.co.uk (Simon Sedgwick) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:38:46 +0100 Subject: Problems with Dell M60 laptop Message-ID: <1096018726.16843.14.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> Just installed FC3t2 and I'm having all kinds of strange issues: 1, Machine is a 2GHz Pentium-M, in the messages log you can see it keeps adjusting the clock speed between 1.4G and 2G. 2, The broadcom network card (which is now auto detected) run's like a dog. 3, I want to install the linuxant driver so I can get my Wi-Fi card to work (works with FC1) but how to I go about compiling a 16k stack???? 4, Nvidia's driver causing issues too, I don't get any error messages in the logs but the screen goes black for a second and then comes back. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora at warmcat.com Fri Sep 24 09:39:11 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:39:11 +0100 Subject: Recent kernels freezing on Via C3? Message-ID: <200409241039.15144.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks - Recent kernels seem to be freezing after some time on Via EPIA i586 machine. Tried with: ?- vanilla 2.6.8 ?- kernel-2.6.8-1.584 Although I am compiling and trying to get to work wifi drivers at the moment, with the Vanilla 2.6.8 I was using one card/driver and with -584 another, so I doubt they both have the same crashing problem. ?Machine works normally and falls over after some time, completely unresponsive. Happened to be running slabtop when it fell over last time, since the driver I was trying to get to work had problems allocating ~40K of dma-able memory. Don't know if that has any clues. ....(lost top part).... ?Active / Total Caches (% used) ? ? : 70 / 107 (65.4%) ?Active / Total Size (% used) ? ? ? : 11706.26K / 15409.12K (76.0%) ?Minimum / Average / Maximum Object : 0.01K / 0.23K / 128.00K ? OBJS ACTIVE ?USE OBJ SIZE ?SLABS OBJ/SLAB CACHE SIZE NAME ?20100 ?16429 ?81% ? ?0.05K ? ?268 ? ? ? 75 ? ? ?1072K buffer_head ?10258 ? 5189 ?50% ? ?0.16K ? ?446 ? ? ? 23 ? ? ?1784K dentry_cache ? 6265 ? 3866 ?61% ? ?0.68K ? 1253 ? ? ? ?5 ? ? ?5012K ext3_inode_cache ? 4089 ? 3857 ?94% ? ?0.08K ? ? 87 ? ? ? 47 ? ? ? 348K vm_area_struct ? 3808 ? 2985 ?78% ? ?0.03K ? ? 32 ? ? ?119 ? ? ? 128K size-32 ? 3612 ? 2361 ?65% ? ?0.27K ? ?258 ? ? ? 14 ? ? ?1032K radix_tree_node ? 1680 ? 1630 ?97% ? ?0.19K ? ? 84 ? ? ? 20 ? ? ? 336K filp ? 1611 ? 1577 ?97% ? ?0.43K ? ?179 ? ? ? ?9 ? ? ? 716K inode_cache ? 1309 ? 1166 ?89% ? ?0.03K ? ? 11 ? ? ?119 ? ? ? ?44K anon_vma ? 1159 ? 1158 ?99% ? ?0.06K ? ? 19 ? ? ? 61 ? ? ? ?76K size-64 ? 1147 ? 1072 ?93% ? ?0.12K ? ? 37 ? ? ? 31 ? ? ? 148K size-128 ? ?720 ? ?540 ?75% ? ?0.25K ? ? 48 ? ? ? 15 ? ? ? 192K ip_dst_cache ? ?678 ? ?332 ?48% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?3 ? ? ?226 ? ? ? ?12K biovec-1 ? ?600 ? ?594 ?99% ? ?0.44K ? ? 75 ? ? ? ?8 ? ? ? 300K proc_inode_cache ? ?532 ? ?503 ?94% ? ?0.50K ? ? 76 ? ? ? ?7 ? ? ? 304K sock_inode_cache ? ?492 ? ?372 ?75% ? ?0.09K ? ? 12 ? ? ? 41 ? ? ? ?48K bio ? ?480 ? ?201 ?41% ? ?0.50K ? ? 60 ? ? ? ?8 ? ? ? 240K size-512 ? ?452 ? ?115 ?25% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?2 ? ? ?226 ? ? ? ? 8K tcp_bind_bucket ? ?440 ? ?180 ?40% ? ?0.19K ? ? 22 ? ? ? 20 ? ? ? ?88K skbuff_head_cache ? ?387 ? ?326 ?84% ? ?0.41K ? ? 43 ? ? ? ?9 ? ? ? 172K ip_conntrack ? ?360 ? ?169 ?46% ? ?0.25K ? ? 24 ? ? ? 15 ? ? ? ?96K size-256 ? ?324 ? ?183 ?56% ? ?0.05K ? ? ?4 ? ? ? 81 ? ? ? ?16K journal_head ? ?305 ? ?258 ?84% ? ?0.06K ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 61 ? ? ? ?20K biovec-4 ? ?294 ? ?279 ?94% ? ?1.22K ? ? 98 ? ? ? ?3 ? ? ? 392K tcp_sock ? ?290 ? ? ?2 ? 0% ? ?0.01K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?290 ? ? ? ? 4K revoke_table ? ?280 ? ?280 100% ? ?0.19K ? ? 14 ? ? ? 20 ? ? ? ?56K biovec-16 ? ?260 ? ?258 ?99% ? ?0.75K ? ? 52 ? ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 208K biovec-64 ? ?260 ? ?256 ?98% ? ?1.50K ? ? 52 ? ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 416K biovec-128 ? ?256 ? ?256 100% ? ?3.00K ? ?128 ? ? ? ?2 ? ? ?1024K biovec-(256) ? ?252 ? ?247 ?98% ? ?0.54K ? ? 36 ? ? ? ?7 ? ? ? 144K shmem_inode_cache ? ?238 ? ? 62 ?26% ? ?0.03K ? ? ?2 ? ? ?119 ? ? ? ? 8K fs_cache ? ?226 ? ? ?1 ? 0% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?226 ? ? ? ? 4K fasync_cache ? ?226 ? ? 10 ? 4% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?226 ? ? ? ? 4K ip_fib_hash ? ?225 ? ?151 ?67% ? ?1.44K ? ? 45 ? ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 360K task_struct ? ?217 ? ?205 ?94% ? ?0.56K ? ? 31 ? ? ? ?7 ? ? ? 124K unix_sock ? ?192 ? ?192 100% ? ?4.00K ? ?192 ? ? ? ?1 ? ? ? 768K size-4096 ? ?192 ? ?108 ?56% ? ?0.04K ? ? ?2 ? ? ? 96 ? ? ? ? 8K crq_pool ? ?186 ? ?143 ?76% ? ?0.12K ? ? ?6 ? ? ? 31 ? ? ? ?24K signal_cache ? ?185 ? ? 88 ?47% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?185 ? ? ? ? 4K blkdev_ioc ? ?185 ? ? 60 ?32% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?185 ? ? ? ? 4K dnotify_cache ? ?168 ? ?157 ?93% ? ?1.00K ? ? 42 ? ? ? ?4 ? ? ? 168K size-1024 ? ?156 ? ?148 ?94% ? ?2.00K ? ? 78 ? ? ? ?2 ? ? ? 312K size-2048 ? ?150 ? ? 90 ?60% ? ?0.16K ? ? ?6 ? ? ? 25 ? ? ? ?24K blkdev_requests ? ?135 ? ? 16 ?11% ? ?0.03K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?135 ? ? ? ? 4K journal_handle ? ?125 ? ?125 100% ? ?0.16K ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 25 ? ? ? ?20K kmem_cache ? ?119 ? ?119 100% ? ?0.03K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?119 ? ? ? ? 4K cfq_pool ? ? 90 ? ? 63 ?70% ? ?0.44K ? ? 10 ? ? ? ?9 ? ? ? ?40K files_cache ? ? 90 ? ? 63 ?70% ? ?0.81K ? ? 10 ? ? ? ?9 ? ? ? ?80K mm_struct ? ? 87 ? ? 63 ?72% ? ?0.13K ? ? ?3 ? ? ? 29 ? ? ? ?12K idr_layer_cache ? ? 81 ? ? 73 ?90% ? ?1.28K ? ? 27 ? ? ? ?3 ? ? ? 108K sighand_cache ? ? 63 ? ? 63 100% ? ?4.00K ? ? 63 ? ? ? ?1 ? ? ? 252K pgd Is anyone else seeing this? ?This machine is rock solid on older versions like - -437. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBU+tDjKeDCxMJCTIRAjagAJ4xbLD4msb3w59k3bi75UumJwRWaACfe3MR 3BiEdWA9tZVqTQpl9Rhvv1E= =T3Wd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mark.bradbury at gmail.com Fri Sep 24 10:25:39 2004 From: mark.bradbury at gmail.com (Mark Bradbury) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:55:39 +0930 Subject: mozilla and epiphany deps Message-ID: Anyone else have this ? [root at pluto mab]# yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files developmen: ################################################## 3504/3504 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree Resolving Dependencies mozilla-nspr-1.7.3-1.i386 100% |=========================| 8.3 kB 00:00 mozilla-dom-inspector-1.7 100% |=========================| 9.3 kB 00:00 mozilla-nss-1.7.3-1.i386. 100% |=========================| 9.6 kB 00:00 mozilla-1.7.3-1.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 66 kB 00:04 Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri Sep 24 10:37:01 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:37:01 +0300 Subject: mozilla and epiphany deps Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615FB2@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 24. september 2004. a. 13:26 Mark Bradbury wrote: > > Anyone else have this ? > > [root at pluto mab]# yum update ... > mozilla-nspr-1.7.3-1.i386 100% |=========================| > 8.3 kB 00:00 > mozilla-dom-inspector-1.7 100% |=========================| > 9.3 kB 00:00 > mozilla-nss-1.7.3-1.i386. 100% |=========================| > 9.6 kB 00:00 > mozilla-1.7.3-1.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| > 66 kB 00:04 > Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany > Yep. Well, something like that - I was using wget and rpm this time around. It looks like we need to --exclude mozilla* for now. Maybe there is a new epiphany coming. (I have been waiting for an epiphany for years. ;-) Fred From lnxxprt at arcor.de Fri Sep 24 10:57:35 2004 From: lnxxprt at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:57:35 +0200 Subject: Yum Fails with this error message In-Reply-To: <4153CA25.1080700@rogers.com> References: <4153CA25.1080700@rogers.com> Message-ID: <4153FD9F.7040802@arcor.de> edit yum.conf and set gpgcheck=0 /ds Dwaine Garden schrieb: > Trying to update the development tree on my computer. Yum does > everything ok, but when it tries to install all the rpm packages, I get > this error message. > I have tried about 10 mirror sites without any success. > > Why??? > > [root at www ~]# yum update > Setting up Update Process > Setting up Repo: rawhide Development Core > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > rawhide De: ################################################## 3504/3504 > Excluding Packages > Excluding Incompatible Archs > Finished > Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux Development Core > Resolving Dependencies > Restarting Dependency Process with new changes > > Dependencies Resolved > [i] gnome-netstatus.i386 0:2.8.0-2 - dep > [i] gnutls.i386 0:1.0.20-3 - dep > [u] 4Suite.i386 0:1.0-3 - user > [u] GConf2.i386 0:2.8.0.1-1 - user > [u] GConf2-devel.i386 0:2.8.0.1-1 - user > [u] ORBit2.i386 0:2.12.0-1 - user > [u] ORBit2-devel.i386 0:2.12.0-1 - user > [u] SysVinit.i386 0:2.85-33 - user > [u] acl.i386 0:2.2.23-5 - user > [u] alchemist.i386 0:1.0.34-1 - user > [u] atk.i386 0:1.8.0-1 - user > [u] atk-devel.i386 0:1.8.0-1 - user > [u] attr.i386 0:2.4.16-3 - user > [u] autoconf.noarch 0:2.59-5 - user > [u] automake.noarch 0:1.9.2-2 - user > [u] basesystem.noarch 0:8.0-4 - user > [u] bash.i386 0:3.0-14 - user > [u] bind-libs.i386 10:9.2.4rc8-14 - user > [u] bind-utils.i386 10:9.2.4rc8-14 - user > [u] binutils.i386 0:2.15.91.0.2-9 - user > [u] bitmap-fonts.noarch 0:0.3-4 - user > [u] boost.i386 0:1.31.0-9 - user > [u] boost-devel.i386 0:1.31.0-9 - user > [u] bug-buddy.i386 1:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] cdda2wav.i386 8:2.01.1-3 - user > [u] cdlabelgen.noarch 0:3.0.0-1 - user > [u] cdrdao.i386 0:1.1.9-5 - user > [u] cdrecord.i386 8:2.01.1-3 - user > [u] comps-extras.noarch 0:9.92-2 - user > [u] control-center.i386 1:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] coreutils.i386 0:5.2.1-24 - user > [u] cpp.i386 0:3.4.2-2 - user > [u] crontabs.noarch 0:1.10-7 - user > [u] cups.i386 1:1.1.21-1.rc2.2 - user > [u] cups-devel.i386 1:1.1.21-1.rc2.2 - user > [u] cups-libs.i386 1:1.1.21-1.rc2.2 - user > [u] db4.i386 0:4.2.52-6 - user > [u] db4-devel.i386 0:4.2.52-6 - user > [u] db4-utils.i386 0:4.2.52-6 - user > [u] dbus.i386 0:0.22-9 - user > [u] dbus-glib.i386 0:0.22-9 - user > [u] device-mapper.i386 0:1.00.19-2 - user > [u] docbook-dtds.noarch 0:1.0-25 - user > [u] docbook-style-dsssl.noarch 0:1.78-4 - user > [u] e2fsprogs.i386 0:1.35-11 - user > [u] e2fsprogs-devel.i386 0:1.35-11 - user > [u] eel2.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] eel2-devel.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] elinks.i386 0:0.9.2-0.rc7.4 - user > [u] eog.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] ethereal.i386 0:0.10.6-2 - user > [u] evolution.i386 0:2.0.0-2 - user > [u] evolution-data-server.i386 0:1.0.0-2 - user > [u] file-roller.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] firstboot.noarch 0:1.3.25-1 - user > [u] fontconfig.i386 0:2.2.3-4 - user > [u] fontconfig-devel.i386 0:2.2.3-4 - user > [u] gamin.i386 0:0.0.10-1 - user > [u] gamin-devel.i386 0:0.0.10-1 - user > [u] gcc.i386 0:3.4.2-2 - user > [u] gcc-c++.i386 0:3.4.2-2 - user > [u] gcc-g77.i386 0:3.4.2-2 - user > [u] gcc-gnat.i386 0:3.4.2-2 - user > [u] gcc-java.i386 0:3.4.2-2 - user > [u] gconf-editor.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gdk-pixbuf.i386 1:0.22.0-14 - user > [u] gdk-pixbuf-devel.i386 1:0.22.0-14 - user > [u] gdm.i386 1:2.6.0.5-1 - user > [u] gedit.i386 1:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] ggv.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gimp.i386 1:2.0.4-6 - user > [u] gimp-data-extras.noarch 0:1.2.0-12 - user > [u] glibc.i686 0:2.3.3-55 - user > [u] glibc-common.i386 0:2.3.3-55 - user > [u] glibc-devel.i386 0:2.3.3-55 - user > [u] glibc-headers.i386 0:2.3.3-55 - user > [u] gnome-applets.i386 1:2.8.0-2 - user > [u] gnome-desktop.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-desktop-devel.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-icon-theme.noarch 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-keyring.i386 0:0.4.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-mag.i386 0:0.11.7-1 - user > [u] gnome-media.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-panel.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-panel-devel.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-pilot.i386 0:2.0.12-3 - user > [u] gnome-pilot-devel.i386 0:2.0.12-3 - user > [u] gnome-session.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-speech.i386 0:0.3.5-4 - user > [u] gnome-themes.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-user-docs.noarch 0:2.8.0.1-1 - user > [u] gnome-utils.i386 1:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] gnome-vfs2.i386 0:2.8.1-1 - user > [u] gnome-vfs2-devel.i386 0:2.8.1-1 - user > [u] gnome-vfs2-smb.i386 0:2.8.1-1 - user > [u] gnome-volume-manager.i386 0:1.1.0-1 - user > [u] gok.i386 0:0.11.8-1 - user > [u] gpdf.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] groff.i386 0:1.18.1.1-2 - user > [u] gthumb.i386 0:2.4.2-1 - user > [u] gtk-doc.noarch 0:1.2-2 - user > [u] gtk2.i386 0:2.4.10-1 - user > [u] gtk2-devel.i386 0:2.4.10-1 - user > [u] gtkhtml3.i386 0:3.3.2-3 - user > [u] gtksourceview.i386 0:1.1.0-3 - user > [u] howl.i386 0:0.9.6-4 - user > [u] howl-libs.i386 0:0.9.6-4 - user > [u] htmlview.noarch 0:3.0.0-6 - user > [u] hwdata.noarch 0:0.134-1 - user > [u] iiimf-libs.i386 1:12.0.1-7.svn1891 - user > [u] iiimf-libs-devel.i386 1:12.0.1-7.svn1891 - user > [u] initscripts.i386 0:7.84-1 - user > [u] iproute.i386 0:2.6.9-3 - user > [u] iptables.i386 0:1.2.11-3.1 - user > [u] jadetex.noarch 0:3.12-11 - user > [u] kdebase.i386 6:3.3.0-5 - user > [u] kdebase-devel.i386 6:3.3.0-5 - user > [u] kdelibs.i386 6:3.3.0-3 - user > [u] kdelibs-devel.i386 6:3.3.0-3 - user > [u] kernel-utils.i386 1:2.4-13.1.27 - user > [u] kudzu.i386 0:1.1.90-1 - user > [u] kudzu-devel.i386 0:1.1.90-1 - user > [u] libacl.i386 0:2.2.23-5 - user > [u] libacl-devel.i386 0:2.2.23-5 - user > [u] libattr.i386 0:2.4.16-3 - user > [u] libattr-devel.i386 0:2.4.16-3 - user > [u] libbonobo.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] libbonobo-devel.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] libbonoboui.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] libbonoboui-devel.i386 0:2.8.0-1 - user > [u] libcroco.i386 0:0.6.0-4 - user > [u] libcroco-devel.i386 0:0.6.0-4 - user > [u] libdv.i386 0:0.103-1 - user > [u] libf2c.i386 0:3.4.2-2 - user > [u] libgal2.i386 2:2.2.1-3 - user > [u] libgcc.i386 0:3.4.2-2 - user > [u] libgcj.i386 0:3.4.2-2 - 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user > [u] system-config-soundcard.noarch 0:1.2.9-1 - user > [u] system-config-users.noarch 0:1.2.19-1 - user > [u] system-logviewer.noarch 0:0.9.9-1 - user > [u] system-switch-im.noarch 0:0.1.2-2 - user > [u] tcpdump.i386 14:3.8.2-6 - user > [u] tcsh.i386 0:6.13-9 - user > [u] tetex.i386 0:2.0.2-20 - user > [u] tetex-dvips.i386 0:2.0.2-20 - user > [u] tetex-fonts.i386 0:2.0.2-20 - user > [u] tetex-latex.i386 0:2.0.2-20 - user > [u] udev.i386 0:032-2 - user > [u] unixODBC.i386 0:2.2.9-1 - user > [u] urw-fonts.noarch 0:2.2-6 - user > [u] usbview.i386 0:1.0-13 - user > [u] usermode.i386 0:1.71-2 - user > [u] usermode-gtk.i386 0:1.71-2 - user > [u] util-linux.i386 0:2.12a-8 - user > [u] vim-X11.i386 1:6.3.028-1 - user > [u] vim-common.i386 1:6.3.028-1 - user > [u] vim-enhanced.i386 1:6.3.028-1 - user > [u] vim-minimal.i386 1:6.3.028-1 - user > [u] vixie-cron.i386 1:4.1-12 - user > [u] vte.i386 0:0.11.11-5 - user > [u] wget.i386 0:1.9.1-16 - user > [u] wvdial.i386 0:1.54.0-3 - user > [u] xchat.i386 1:2.4.0-3 - user > [u] xml-common.noarch 0:0.6.3-17 - user > [u] xorg-x11.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-deprecated-libs.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-devel.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-font-utils.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-libs.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-tools.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-twm.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-xauth.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-xdm.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] xorg-x11-xfs.i386 0:6.8.1-3 - user > [u] yelp.i386 0:2.6.3-1 - user > Is this ok [y/N]: y > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? > main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 122, in main > base.doTransaction() > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 456, in doTransaction > problems = self.sigCheckPkgs(downloadpkgs) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 286, in > sigCheckPkgs > result = rpmUtils.miscutils.checkSig(self.read_ts, po.localPkg()) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rpmUtils/miscutils.py", line 82, > in checkSig > os.close(fdno) > OSError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor > [root at www ~]# > From pcompton at proteinmedia.com Fri Sep 24 11:06:37 2004 From: pcompton at proteinmedia.com (Phillip Compton) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:06:37 -0400 Subject: fedora kernel can't boot from sata disk In-Reply-To: References: <41537F3C.8090403@portalvu.com> Message-ID: <4153FFBD.10404@proteinmedia.com> Lars wrote: > hmm, so booting fedora from an sata only hd system is broken? > > WFM FC2, and now FC3T2 Asus P4P800Deluxe onboard SATA Maxtor 200G Phil From Giuseppe.Castagna at ens.fr Fri Sep 24 11:11:20 2004 From: Giuseppe.Castagna at ens.fr (Giuseppe Castagna) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:11:20 +0200 Subject: mozilla and epiphany deps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <415400D8.5000400@ens.fr> Mark Bradbury wrote: > Anyone else have this ? > > [root at pluto mab]# yum update >... > > mozilla-nss-1.7.3-1.i386. 100% |=========================| 9.6 kB 00:00 > mozilla-1.7.3-1.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 66 kB 00:04 > Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany > > YES, more or less [beppe at myrte beppe]# yum update mozilla Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: BraveGNUWorld RPMs Server: Macromedia Flash Player plugin (mirror) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base (Crihan.fr mirror) Server: Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core 2 Server: Fedora Core 2 -- Fedora US mirror Server: Fedora Linux (stable) for Fedora Core 2 -- Fedora US mirror Server: Fedora Core 2 updates -- Fedora US mirror Server: Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (stable) Server: Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (testing) Server: Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (unstable) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Released Updates (Crihan.fr mirror) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Unreleased Updates Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers rsync-0-2.6.3-0.pre2.1.fc 100% |=========================| 2.2 kB 00:00 pancho-0-9.3.6-1.1.fc2.da 100% |=========================| 2.8 kB 00:00 httpd-devel-0-2.0.51-2.7. 100% |=========================| 8.7 kB 00:00 waitfor-0-0.5-1.1.fc2.dag 100% |=========================| 1.5 kB 00:00 subversion-devel-0-1.0.8- 100% |=========================| 5.1 kB 00:00 ddrescue-0-1.10-0.fdr.1.2 100% |=========================| 1.6 kB 00:00 gob2-0-2.0.10-1.1.fc2.dag 100% |=========================| 2.0 kB 00:00 gaim-festival-0-1.00-1.1. 100% |=========================| 1.8 kB 00:00 subversion-perl-0-1.0.8-1 100% |=========================| 5.0 kB 00:00 gaim-meanwhile-0-1.0.0-1. 100% |=========================| 1.9 kB 00:00 mod_dav_svn-0-1.0.8-1.i38 100% |=========================| 3.4 kB 00:00 xine-lib-devel-0-1.0.0-0. 100% |=========================| 5.8 kB 00:00 xine-lib-0-1.0.0-0.14.rc6 100% |=========================| 11 kB 00:00 Resolving dependencies ......Unable to satisfy dependencies Package epiphany needs mozilla = 37:1.7.2, this is not available. From florian at ipes-ent.com Fri Sep 24 11:14:24 2004 From: florian at ipes-ent.com (Florian Idelberger) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:14:24 +0200 Subject: boot problems In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615FB1@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615FB1@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <41540190.8030007@ipes-ent.com> Fred New wrote: > On 24. september 2004. a. 12:16 Florian Idelberger wrote: > >>So I booted into rescue, chrooted and created an entry in grub.conf >>which at least showed up. It something like: >>title FedoraFC3Test2 >> root (hd0,1) >> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 >> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img >> >>Linux resides on /dev/hda2, so I think the partitition is >>specified the right way, this being confirmed by a try to boot. >>When trying to boot at first everything seems fine, the >>kernel is found and starts booting. Then when the mounting >>and udev part comes, somehow the root filesystem can't get >>mounted, and I get a kernel panic like: >>"Kernel Panic! Tried to kill init!" > > > This is just a guess, but try adding a few parameters > to the grub.conf kernel line: > > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=/dev/hda2 > > Fred > > Already tried that with exactly what you specified, but it didn't help. The error didn't even change, it just stayed the same. But anyway thanks for your response. From ba at linuxin.dk Fri Sep 24 11:29:12 2004 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:29:12 +0200 Subject: fedora kernel can't boot from sata disk In-Reply-To: <4153FFBD.10404@proteinmedia.com> References: <41537F3C.8090403@portalvu.com> <4153FFBD.10404@proteinmedia.com> Message-ID: <1096025352.3818.1.camel@Mars> Under GRUB install use adwanced options, and choose what harddisk your MBR is installed on. I have used SATA since Fedora Core 2. /Bjorn fre, 24 09 2004 kl. 07:06 -0400, skrev Phillip Compton: > Lars wrote: > > hmm, so booting fedora from an sata only hd system is broken? > > > > > WFM FC2, and now FC3T2 > > Asus P4P800Deluxe onboard SATA > Maxtor 200G > > > > Phil > > From gstool at earthlink.net Fri Sep 24 12:08:06 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:08:06 -0500 Subject: mozilla and epiphany deps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41540E26.3020607@earthlink.net> Mark Bradbury wrote: >Anyone else have this ? > >[root at pluto mab]# yum update >Setting up Update Process >Setting up Repo: development >repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 >Reading repository metadata in from local files >developmen: ################################################## 3504/3504 >Excluding Packages >Excluding Incompatible Archs >Finished >Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree >Resolving Dependencies >mozilla-nspr-1.7.3-1.i386 100% |=========================| 8.3 kB 00:00 >mozilla-dom-inspector-1.7 100% |=========================| 9.3 kB 00:00 >mozilla-nss-1.7.3-1.i386. 100% |=========================| 9.6 kB 00:00 >mozilla-1.7.3-1.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 66 kB 00:04 >Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany > > > > If you don't use epiphany, just rpm -e epiphany and then you can update mozilla. Gerry From mark at talios.com Fri Sep 24 12:36:26 2004 From: mark at talios.com (Mark Derricutt) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:36:26 +1200 Subject: Installing FC3test2 into VMWare Message-ID: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> I've just tried for the second time to install my freshly downloaded FC3test2 burns into VMWare, but Anaconda always complains theres not enough diskspace to install, has anyone installed FC3 into VMWare successfully? From michael_seney at yahoo.com Fri Sep 24 12:40:05 2004 From: michael_seney at yahoo.com (Michael Seney) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 05:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: mozilla and epiphany deps In-Reply-To: <41540E26.3020607@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040924124006.55514.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> yeah I am getting the same thing. I've narrowed it down to being a problem between the Epiphany version and the Mozilla version..Wish I were home right now because I was messing with this before I came in. I think you have to get a certain Epiphany/Mozilla combo. If I get it right later tonight when I get home I'll post ok... --- Gerry Tool wrote: > Mark Bradbury wrote: > > >Anyone else have this ? > > > >[root at pluto mab]# yum update > >Setting up Update Process > >Setting up Repo: development > >repomd.xml 100% > |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > >Reading repository metadata in from local files > >developmen: > ################################################## > 3504/3504 > >Excluding Packages > >Excluding Incompatible Archs > >Finished > >Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development > Tree > >Resolving Dependencies > >mozilla-nspr-1.7.3-1.i386 100% > |=========================| 8.3 kB 00:00 > >mozilla-dom-inspector-1.7 100% > |=========================| 9.3 kB 00:00 > >mozilla-nss-1.7.3-1.i386. 100% > |=========================| 9.6 kB 00:00 > >mozilla-1.7.3-1.i386.rpm 100% > |=========================| 66 kB 00:04 > >Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany > > > > > > > > > If you don't use epiphany, just > rpm -e epiphany > > and then you can update mozilla. > > Gerry > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Fri Sep 24 12:41:25 2004 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:41:25 +0200 Subject: Installing FC3test2 into VMWare In-Reply-To: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> References: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> Message-ID: <20040924124125.GA13954@br-online.de> Mark Derricutt wrote: > I've just tried for the second time to install my freshly downloaded > FC3test2 burns into VMWare, but Anaconda always complains theres not > enough diskspace to install, has anyone installed FC3 into VMWare > successfully? Yes. But after updating around 300 packages it won't boot anymore, there seems to be a problem with LVM which I cannot quite grasp yet (yes, that is the reason why there is no filing this problem in bugzilla). My virtual machine has 4GB disk space allocated to it, which is grown dynamically. VMWare 4.5.2 that is. Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mhaney at interactsys.com Fri Sep 24 12:42:16 2004 From: mhaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:42:16 -0400 Subject: Installing FC3test2 into VMWare In-Reply-To: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> References: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> Message-ID: <1096029735.3032.18.camel@marius.asheville.interact> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 08:36, Mark Derricutt wrote: > I've just tried for the second time to install my freshly downloaded > FC3test2 burns into VMWare, but Anaconda always complains theres not > enough diskspace to install, has anyone installed FC3 into VMWare > successfully? The only problems I've seen are relating to T2's default to LVM in the install process. If you manually set partitions to ext3 (or xfs) you should be okay. I'm still testing the manual partition install and did a bugzilla on the kernel panic when using LVM in VMWare. -------------------------------------- Mark Haney Network Administrator InterAct Public Safety Systems mhaney at interactsys.com Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 08:40:53 up 50 min, 2 users, load average: 1.28, 1.25, 1.24 From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Fri Sep 24 12:44:29 2004 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:44:29 +0200 Subject: Installing FC3test2 into VMWare In-Reply-To: <1096029735.3032.18.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> <1096029735.3032.18.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <20040924124429.GB13954@br-online.de> Mark Haney wrote: > I'm still testing the manual partition install and did a bugzilla on the > kernel panic when using LVM in VMWare. Hmm? ID? I did a quick search on bugzilla and didn't find it. Ralph -- Ralph Angenendt......ra at br-online.de | .."Text processing has made it possible Bayerischer Rundfunk...HA-Multimedia | ....to right-justify any idea, even one Rundfunkplatz 1........80300 M?nchen | .which cannot be justified on any other Tl:089.5900.16023..Fx:089.5900.16240 | ..........grounds." -- J. Finnegan, USC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Sep 24 12:44:54 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:44:54 -0400 Subject: Yum Fails with this error message In-Reply-To: <4153FD9F.7040802@arcor.de> References: <4153CA25.1080700@rogers.com> <4153FD9F.7040802@arcor.de> Message-ID: <1096029894.29326.36.camel@binkley> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 12:57 +0200, D. Stolte wrote: > edit yum.conf and set gpgcheck=0 > That's not a fix. That just avoids a problem. -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Sep 24 12:45:20 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:45:20 -0400 Subject: Yum Fails with this error message In-Reply-To: <4153CA25.1080700@rogers.com> References: <4153CA25.1080700@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1096029920.29326.38.camel@binkley> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 03:17 -0400, Dwaine Garden wrote: > Trying to update the development tree on my computer. Yum does > everything ok, but when it tries to install all the rpm packages, I get > this error message. > I have tried about 10 mirror sites without any success. > > Why??? > > [u] yelp.i386 0:2.6.3-1 - user > Is this ok [y/N]: y > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? > main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 122, in main > base.doTransaction() > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 456, in doTransaction > problems = self.sigCheckPkgs(downloadpkgs) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 286, in > sigCheckPkgs > result = rpmUtils.miscutils.checkSig(self.read_ts, po.localPkg()) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rpmUtils/miscutils.py", line > 82, in checkSig > os.close(fdno) > OSError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor > [root at www ~]# Please file this in bugzilla. -sv From mhaney at interactsys.com Fri Sep 24 12:47:08 2004 From: mhaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:47:08 -0400 Subject: Installing FC3test2 into VMWare In-Reply-To: <20040924124429.GB13954@br-online.de> References: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> <1096029735.3032.18.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <20040924124429.GB13954@br-online.de> Message-ID: <1096030028.3032.20.camel@marius.asheville.interact> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 08:44, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Mark Haney wrote: > > I'm still testing the manual partition install and did a bugzilla on the > > kernel panic when using LVM in VMWare. > > Hmm? ID? I did a quick search on bugzilla and didn't find it. > > Ralph You had to ask didn't you? I didn't put it in the message because I couldn't find the number! Can you tell it's Friday? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133264 -------------------------------------- Mark Haney Network Administrator InterAct Public Safety Systems mhaney at interactsys.com Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 08:46:27 up 56 min, 2 users, load average: 1.87, 1.39, 1.28 From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Fri Sep 24 12:51:01 2004 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:51:01 +0200 Subject: Installing FC3test2 into VMWare In-Reply-To: <1096030028.3032.20.camel@marius.asheville.interact> References: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> <1096029735.3032.18.camel@marius.asheville.interact> <20040924124429.GB13954@br-online.de> <1096030028.3032.20.camel@marius.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <20040924125101.GC13954@br-online.de> Mark Haney wrote: > On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 08:44, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > > Mark Haney wrote: >>> I'm still testing the manual partition install and did a bugzilla on the >>> kernel panic when using LVM in VMWare. >> >> Hmm? ID? I did a quick search on bugzilla and didn't find it. > You had to ask didn't you? I didn't put it in the message because I > couldn't find the number! Sure =:) I had to ask as I didn't find a bug related to that and you *had* to mention it. > Can you tell it's Friday? Yes. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133264 Thank you very much. Ralph -- Ralph Angenendt......ra at br-online.de | .."Text processing has made it possible Bayerischer Rundfunk...HA-Multimedia | ....to right-justify any idea, even one Rundfunkplatz 1........80300 M?nchen | .which cannot be justified on any other Tl:089.5900.16023..Fx:089.5900.16240 | ..........grounds." -- J. Finnegan, USC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jaumec at lleida.net Fri Sep 24 13:44:05 2004 From: jaumec at lleida.net (Jaume =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cornad=F3?=) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:44:05 +0200 Subject: Transparency in XOrg Message-ID: <1096033446.4452.3.camel@jaume.lnst.es> Anybody knows a method to enable transparency in new XOrg 6.8.X??? or any doc? Thanks From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Fri Sep 24 13:51:32 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <200409231228.10069.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Mike Klinke wrote: > On Thursday 23 September 2004 10:07, Noah Silva [Mailing list] > > > > I tried lowering the res and the colors, and updating xorg, all > > with no luck. > > > > The Video controller is: > > Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (Rev > > 03) > > > > When I have a working web browser, I will search bugzilla for > > something like this... > > > > thanks, > > noah silva > > The Xorg stuff is, well, less than optimum for your graphics > controller: > > https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 > https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 And yet, it worked in XFree? Here I thought XOrg was branched from XFree... It would seem if anything it's too optomized, avoiding drawing where it doesn't think it has to ;> In all seriousness, though, I saw some kernel messages in the syslog about ring bugger errors and such related with the video card. This seems like a showstopper problem though, for people with this card. This Dell GX110 isn't exactly a new unsupportable type machine either... Also - didn't FC2 use Xorg? Maybe I never used FC2 on this machine.. thanks, Noah Silva (off to find a machine with working graphics to look at bugzilla...) From nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com Fri Sep 24 14:04:48 2004 From: nsilva-list at aoi.atari-source.com (Noah Silva [Mailing list]) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <41538412.3050300@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: > > The Video controller is: > > Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (Rev 03) > >......... > ................ > Your card is one revision newer than my card is. I have found that > setting the depth to 24 and the resolution to either 1280 x 1024 or to > 1400 x 1050 work without a refresh problem. I saw that in the bugzilla entry just now, but I tried those with no luck. > I had no problems with running 1024 x 768 at 16 depth, except the 16bit depth at any res causes the same problems (this was my original setting). > crashing X when switching to a ctl-alt-Fn terminal, X died. Otherwise, > cromium and tux worked fine if never going to a terminal. I tried SuSE AS 9.0 on this machine and once had X completely lock up, now it seems like we might know why. Other than that, SuSE works, FC1 worked, Windows NT and 2k worked. > I've also tried out the radeon 7200 card as both primary display - 815 > card secondary and with 815 primary, radeon secondary. Sadly, this card is built into the machine, and I am not sure there is an AGP slot, I will have to take it apart and see. In understand that not everything works in linux all the time, but it is sad to see a piece of hardware that was "safe" suddenly become unusable. > See bug below for dual booting mess > Anyway, I'm attaching the 1400 x 1050 resolution for the 815 setup as > single card. Both cards are still attached. > > You might find some portions of the xorg.conf suitable to start without > the refresh mess. I hope, but I doubt. > There is also a triaged bug for the i810 at the below link. This > includes the noacceleration parameter for X. The bug I filed earlier was > marke as a duplicate of this report. I was wondering if I turned DRI, etc. off, if it might work normally... I wonder exactly what is failing. Someone mentioned before bad memory, but according to dmesg, this card has 4mb dedicated memory. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132267 > > I am getting sort of a vague refresh problem when highlighting test in > moz mail. This is very minimal failure though. > > Jim > thx, noah silva From lsomike at futzin.com Fri Sep 24 14:07:51 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:07:51 -0500 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200409240907.51472.lsomike@futzin.com> On Friday 24 September 2004 08:51, NS wrote: > And yet, it worked in XFree? Here I thought XOrg was branched > from XFree... It would seem if anything it's too optomized, > avoiding drawing where it doesn't think it has to ;> In all > seriousness, though, I saw some kernel messages in the syslog > about ring bugger errors and such related with the video card. > > This seems like a showstopper problem though, for people with > this card. This Dell GX110 isn't exactly a new unsupportable type > machine either... > > Also - didn't FC2 use Xorg? Maybe I never used FC2 on this > machine.. > > thanks, > Noah Silva > > (off to find a machine with working graphics to look at > bugzilla...) When FC3T1 first came out there were'nt any problems to speak of and it wasn't until modifications to the code were made in preparation for the latest major Xorg* release that the i810 driver code has gone wacky. Hopefully things will straighten out as they plow through their bug lists. It may be helpful to provide whatever input you can into their bugzilla system. Regards, Mike Klinke From justin_georgeson at yahoo.com Fri Sep 24 14:32:21 2004 From: justin_georgeson at yahoo.com (Justin Georgeson) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3 on inspiron 2600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040924143221.93176.qmail@web20024.mail.yahoo.com> What about power management features? --- "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Justin Georgeson wrote: > > > I'm considering setting up FC3 in a dual-boot configuration with a > Dell > > Inspiron 2600 laptop and was wondering if anyone knows of any > gotchas > > or unsupported hardware. > > i've had good luck running RH/FC on both an inspiron 7500 and, > currently, an 8100. i don't think you'll have any troubles. > > rday > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From rpjday at mindspring.com Fri Sep 24 14:29:37 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3 on inspiron 2600 In-Reply-To: <20040924143221.93176.qmail@web20024.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040924143221.93176.qmail@web20024.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Justin Georgeson wrote: > What about power management features? that i can't tell you about, as i was waiting for this latest FC3 test release before i got seriously into that. i may look around and see if there's a forum specifically related to FC on inspirons. i know there have been a few over the years, i suspect they still exist. rday From justin_georgeson at yahoo.com Fri Sep 24 14:40:01 2004 From: justin_georgeson at yahoo.com (Justin Georgeson) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3 on inspiron 2600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040924144002.95102.qmail@web20025.mail.yahoo.com> Cool. Another good place to look, which I am about to check out, is the linux-dell-laptops Yahoo group. There's no specific forum for it, but you can usually get answers from end users at forums.us.dell.com as well. --- "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Justin Georgeson wrote: > > > What about power management features? > > that i can't tell you about, as i was waiting for this latest FC3 > test > release before i got seriously into that. > > i may look around and see if there's a forum specifically related to > FC on inspirons. i know there have been a few over the years, i > suspect they still exist. > > rday > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Fri Sep 24 14:53:17 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:53:17 -0400 Subject: Yum Fails with this error message In-Reply-To: <1096029920.29326.38.camel@binkley> References: <4153CA25.1080700@rogers.com> <1096029920.29326.38.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <415434DD.3070808@rogers.com> seth vidal wrote: >On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 03:17 -0400, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > >>Trying to update the development tree on my computer. Yum does >>everything ok, but when it tries to install all the rpm packages, I get >>this error message. >>I have tried about 10 mirror sites without any success. >> >>Why??? >> >> [u] yelp.i386 0:2.6.3-1 - user >>Is this ok [y/N]: y >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? >> main(sys.argv[1:]) >> File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 122, in main >> base.doTransaction() >> File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 456, in doTransaction >> problems = self.sigCheckPkgs(downloadpkgs) >> File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 286, in >>sigCheckPkgs >> result = rpmUtils.miscutils.checkSig(self.read_ts, po.localPkg()) >> File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rpmUtils/miscutils.py", line >>82, in checkSig >> os.close(fdno) >>OSError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor >>[root at www ~]# >> >> > >Please file this in bugzilla. > >-sv > > > > > I will thanks... But setting gpgcheck to 0 worked for now. Dwaine. From russell at coker.com.au Fri Sep 24 15:00:42 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:00:42 +1000 Subject: Reiser4 In-Reply-To: <20040922010440.GB28767@copilotconsulting.com> References: <200409162133.39237.manu@kromtek.com> <1095545985.25149.59.camel@one.myworld> <20040922010440.GB28767@copilotconsulting.com> Message-ID: <200409250100.42568.russell@coker.com.au> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:04, Tracy R Reed wrote: > I really look forward to being able to user reiser4 with FC. It would make > sense for FC to prefer reiser4 over reiser3 because SE Linux will work on > reiser4 due to its support of xattrs. I'll believe that when I see it. There is Reiser3 XATTR code and SE Linux hooks, but they don't work. Also Reiser4 apparently (according to the LWN articles referenced before) needs a new system call. LSM and SE Linux used to have a system call, the main kernel coders didn't like it and it was re-written to not use a system call. Don't expect Reiser4 with an extra system-call to get into the kernel any time soon. It won't be in Fedora as long as it's not in kernel.org. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From rpa4email at rogers.com Fri Sep 24 15:04:31 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:04:31 -0400 Subject: glibc problem. Message-ID: <1096038271.6935.25.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Hello ... I am using FC3t1 updated to latest rawhide (shouldn't that have made my system FC3t2? fedora-release still says t1) I am not sure how best to explain this because I am very new to the programming world and tend to get lost easily. However I have encountered something with the latest glibc update in rawhide and need to find out if it something broken in glibc. I have been using a BBS program called Synchronet (does anybody remember dial up BBSes?) I compile the source from CVS (http://cvs.synchro.net) and it has worked flawlessly until I updated to glibc-2.3.3-55 (headers, common, devel) The program compiles without error (just the usual warnings that have been there for a while) However now the program won't run correctly. There are a LOT of errors regarding: Got signal (26435072) Signal has no handler (unexpected) Throwing the program into endless loops. To ensure that this wasn't a recent change to this program, I reverted to an older, known working tarball of the source and the same thing occurred. One of the developers mentioned that it may be related pthread and to look for changes in: sigemptyset() sigaddset() pthread_sigmask() sigwait() When I reverted back to glibc-2.3.3-54 (common, header, devel) the problem went away. I am hoping that someone here with more knowledge than I can shed some light on this and whether I need to file a bugzilla against glibc or if there was an intentional change. I hope that I explained this well enough and thanks for your time. Robert Couture From jakub at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 15:28:31 2004 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:28:31 -0400 Subject: glibc problem. In-Reply-To: <1096038271.6935.25.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> References: <1096038271.6935.25.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Message-ID: <20040924152830.GD31909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 11:04:31AM -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > sigemptyset() > sigaddset() > pthread_sigmask() > sigwait() > > When I reverted back to glibc-2.3.3-54 (common, header, devel) the > problem went away. The most important change between -54 and -55 was the set{res,re,e}[ug]id fix. These functions must affect the whole process, while previously they impacted on the current thread only. Can you see if your app is 1) threaded 2) calls one of these functions? (you can see it e.g. in LD_DEBUG=all dump). Another change (related) was that in NPTL SIGRTMIN increased, so if the application hardcodes signal 33 for something instead of using SIGRTMIN, the problem might be there. Jakub From cylon at streamyx.com Fri Sep 24 15:41:17 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:41:17 +0800 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4154401D.8030703@streamyx.com> Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > >I was wondering if I turned DRI, etc. off, if it might work normally... I >wonder exactly what is failing. Someone mentioned before bad memory, but >according to dmesg, this card has 4mb dedicated memory. > > > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132267 >> >>I am getting sort of a vague refresh problem when highlighting test in >>moz mail. This is very minimal failure though. >> >>Jim >> >> >> try increasing the number of graphics ram in the bios. From cylon at streamyx.com Fri Sep 24 15:58:00 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:58:00 +0800 Subject: boot problems In-Reply-To: <41540190.8030007@ipes-ent.com> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615FB1@eemail1.microlink.lan> <41540190.8030007@ipes-ent.com> Message-ID: <41544408.90003@streamyx.com> Florian Idelberger wrote: > Fred New wrote: > >> On 24. september 2004. a. 12:16 Florian Idelberger wrote: >> >>> So I booted into rescue, chrooted and created an entry in grub.conf >>> which at least showed up. It something like: >>> title FedoraFC3Test2 >>> root (hd0,1) >>> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 >>> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img >>> >>> Linux resides on /dev/hda2, so I think the partitition is specified >>> the right way, this being confirmed by a try to boot. >>> When trying to boot at first everything seems fine, the kernel is >>> found and starts booting. Then when the mounting >>> and udev part comes, somehow the root filesystem can't get >>> mounted, and I get a kernel panic like: "Kernel Panic! Tried to kill >>> init!" >> >> >> >> This is just a guess, but try adding a few parameters >> to the grub.conf kernel line: >> >> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=/dev/hda2 >> >> Fred >> >> > > Already tried that with exactly what you specified, but it didn't help. > The error didn't even change, it just stayed the same. > But anyway thanks for your response. > > try root (hd0,0) From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Fri Sep 24 16:06:48 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:06:48 -0400 Subject: mozilla and epiphany deps In-Reply-To: <20040924124006.55514.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040924124006.55514.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41544618.9090804@hpcf.upr.edu> The epiphany rpm needs exactly the same version of mozilla that was used to build epiphany. The options are: a) excluding mozilla from the update until the new epiphany rpm is added to rawhide b) if you dont use epiphany... rpm -e epiphany c) if you can't wait.... rpm -e epiphany yum update wget http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/SRPMS/epiphany-X.Y.Z.src.rpm rpmbuild --rebuild epiphany-X.Y.Z.src.rpm rpm -ihv epiphany-X.Y.Z.i386.rpm -- Ricardo Veguilla Michael Seney wrote: >yeah I am getting the same thing. I've narrowed it >down to being a problem between the Epiphany version >and the Mozilla version..Wish I were home right now >because I was messing with this before I came in. I >think you have to get a certain Epiphany/Mozilla >combo. If I get it right later tonight when I get home >I'll post ok... > > >--- Gerry Tool wrote: > > > >>Mark Bradbury wrote: >> >> >> >>>Anyone else have this ? >>> >>>[root at pluto mab]# yum update >>>Setting up Update Process >>>Setting up Repo: development >>>repomd.xml 100% >>> >>> >>|=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 >> >> >>>Reading repository metadata in from local files >>>developmen: >>> >>> >>################################################## >>3504/3504 >> >> >>>Excluding Packages >>>Excluding Incompatible Archs >>>Finished >>>Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2 - Development >>> >>> >>Tree >> >> >>>Resolving Dependencies >>>mozilla-nspr-1.7.3-1.i386 100% >>> >>> >>|=========================| 8.3 kB 00:00 >> >> >>>mozilla-dom-inspector-1.7 100% >>> >>> >>|=========================| 9.3 kB 00:00 >> >> >>>mozilla-nss-1.7.3-1.i386. 100% >>> >>> >>|=========================| 9.6 kB 00:00 >> >> >>>mozilla-1.7.3-1.i386.rpm 100% >>> >>> >>|=========================| 66 kB 00:04 >> >> >>>Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>If you don't use epiphany, just >>rpm -e epiphany >> >>and then you can update mozilla. >> >>Gerry >> >> >> From jon.nettleton at gmail.com Fri Sep 24 16:07:05 2004 From: jon.nettleton at gmail.com (Jon Nettleton) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:07:05 -0400 Subject: How to set wireless settings for 2 different locales (FC3 Test 2) Message-ID: >>So how do I do this ? I want the machine to figure out whether X or Y is >> available on its own (whether I am at home or at work) >> without me telling it and I want any hostname changes not to mess up >> display. If in the process it comes across other networks, >> it should just ignore them. If I need to connect to them, I can do >> *that* manually. >I saw an interesting approach to this on bugzilla, you might want to >have a look at that although it is more of an RFE than an actual bug. >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132661 >That does sound like something like what you are after though. That is actually my patch, glad somebody took notice. ;-). I have an updated version that I haven't submitted yet, that cleans up a lot of the parsing and has some security precautions in it. I should have that update this week. Unfortunately my patch won't help people trying to connect to accesspoints with non-broadcast ESSIDS. I actually specifically exclude those from my scanned ap list. I have thought about how to include support this case, but haven't come up with a sure fire method. My best idea would be to use the iwlist ap command to get the HW addresses of available access points and then look for ACCESSPOINT=value in the different ifcfg- scripts. The big drawback with this, is to properly implement it system-config-network would have to be changed to add an ACCESSPOINT option under the wireless config. This should not be too hard, but I haven't had the time in the last week to really get my hands dirty. If people are interested in this funtionality please let me know. I definitely see this as a place where linux in general is a bit behind the curve. -Jon From notting at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 16:36:53 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:36:53 -0400 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 In-Reply-To: <4153EB01.10006@redhat.com> References: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> <41528CCB.4080307@redhat.com> <1095940027.3323.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <4153A50F.3050700@yahoo.com> <4153EB01.10006@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040924163653.GB12006@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Harald Hoyer (harald at redhat.com) said: > Normally, if you insmod a scsi host adaptor it causes several hotplug > events, which are handled also by the scsi.agent, which loads the sr_mod > or other scsi related modules. > But if the scsi hostadapter module is loaded in the initrd, there is no > scsi.agent and also no sr_mod... thus no device nodes are created.. Doh! > > In my opinion, if a host adaptor is loaded, the sg module should be > loaded in any case, to enable generic scsi commands. sg isn't used for generic SG access... SG_IO can be used on the device itself. > We could replay some hotplug events on system start after initrd, to get > the full hotplug functionality. This is already done by udevstart, but > only for devices. AFAIK, /dev/sg* isn't needed. Where specifically is it breaking? Bill From terraformers at gmx.net Fri Sep 24 17:11:13 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:11:13 +0200 Subject: Transparency in XOrg References: <1096033446.4452.3.camel@jaume.lnst.es> Message-ID: hi see the "FC3T2 and XComposite" thread. best lars Jaume Cornad? wrote: > Anybody knows a method to enable transparency in new XOrg 6.8.X??? or > any doc? > > Thanks > > From florian at ipes-ent.com Fri Sep 24 17:20:17 2004 From: florian at ipes-ent.com (Florian Idelberger) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:20:17 +0200 Subject: boot problems In-Reply-To: <41544408.90003@streamyx.com> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615FB1@eemail1.microlink.lan> <41540190.8030007@ipes-ent.com> <41544408.90003@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <41545751.40107@ipes-ent.com> Mazli Alias wrote: > Florian Idelberger wrote: > >> Fred New wrote: >> >>> On 24. september 2004. a. 12:16 Florian Idelberger wrote: >>> >>>> So I booted into rescue, chrooted and created an entry in grub.conf >>>> which at least showed up. It something like: >>>> title FedoraFC3Test2 >>>> root (hd0,1) >>>> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 >>>> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.541.img >>>> >>>> Linux resides on /dev/hda2, so I think the partitition is specified >>>> the right way, this being confirmed by a try to boot. >>>> When trying to boot at first everything seems fine, the kernel is >>>> found and starts booting. Then when the mounting >>>> and udev part comes, somehow the root filesystem can't get >>>> mounted, and I get a kernel panic like: "Kernel Panic! Tried to kill >>>> init!" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This is just a guess, but try adding a few parameters >>> to the grub.conf kernel line: >>> >>> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.541 ro root=/dev/hda2 >>> >>> Fred >>> >>> >> >> Already tried that with exactly what you specified, but it didn't help. >> The error didn't even change, it just stayed the same. >> But anyway thanks for your response. >> >> > try root (hd0,0) > > Nay, that doesn't help either. This way round it doesn't even find the kernel image because hd(0,0) points to the fat32 partitition. (as grub correctly points out) It would be very obscure if that would boot fedora, wouldn't it? Nonetheless, thx for your efforts. From jeff.johnson at wsm.com Fri Sep 24 17:36:51 2004 From: jeff.johnson at wsm.com (Jeff Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:36:51 -0700 Subject: FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso image too big to burn to DVD? Message-ID: <41545B33.3060508@wsm.com> Greetings, I pulled the FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso image via bittorrent but I am unable to burn the image to DVD. The md5sum of the downloaded version matches what is listed. I have tried several different makes of 4.7GB media and burn packages (xcdroast, cdrecord-prodvd, Nero/Windows) and every one claims the image is too big to burn to DVD. Could the DVD image posted for download be actually too large to be written to media? Thanks! Jeff From sopwith at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 17:38:25 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso image too big to burn to DVD? In-Reply-To: <41545B33.3060508@wsm.com> References: <41545B33.3060508@wsm.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Jeff Johnson wrote: > I pulled the FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso image via bittorrent but I am > unable to burn the image to DVD. The md5sum of the downloaded version > matches what is listed. I have tried several different makes of 4.7GB > media and burn packages (xcdroast, cdrecord-prodvd, Nero/Windows) and > every one claims the image is too big to burn to DVD. Could the DVD > image posted for download be actually too large to be written to media? Yep - you can monitor bug #132998 to keep track of the status of this issue. -- Elliot We're so busy putting out fires that we don't take time to stop kids from playing with matches. From alan at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 17:46:18 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:46:18 -0400 Subject: FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso image too big to burn to DVD? In-Reply-To: <41545B33.3060508@wsm.com> References: <41545B33.3060508@wsm.com> Message-ID: <20040924174618.GE14260@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 10:36:51AM -0700, Jeff Johnson wrote: > matches what is listed. I have tried several different makes of 4.7GB > media and burn packages (xcdroast, cdrecord-prodvd, Nero/Windows) and > every one claims the image is too big to burn to DVD. Could the DVD > image posted for download be actually too large to be written to media? Yes, you apparently need something that can overburn a little. Or I ended up using PXE and NFS installing the image 8) From jonathansavage at gmail.com Fri Sep 24 17:59:53 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:59:53 -0700 Subject: How to set wireless settings for 2 different locales (FC3 Test 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad7cea1040924105966d04649@mail.gmail.com> > Unfortunately my patch won't help people trying to connect to > accesspoints with non-broadcast ESSIDS. I actually specifically > exclude those from my scanned ap list. I have thought about how to > include support this case, but haven't come up with a sure fire > method. > > My best idea would be to use the iwlist ap command to get the HW > addresses of available access points and then look for > ACCESSPOINT=value in the different ifcfg- scripts. The big drawback > with this, is to properly implement it system-config-network would > have to be changed to add an ACCESSPOINT option under the wireless > config. This should not be too hard, but I haven't had the time in > the last week to really get my hands dirty. > > If people are interested in this funtionality please let me know. I > definitely see this as a place where linux in general is a bit behind > the curve. There is a definite niche for this sort of functionality. I believe it will be at least partly addressed by NetworkManager in FC3. Kwifi manager also allows for multiple profiles to be set up and is also, AFIK, going to be included in FC3. Bests, Jon ---- ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>?. >>> ???`?.?. , . .???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>> > From dmalcolm at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 18:55:18 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:55:18 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Evolution Memory Hog In-Reply-To: <1095949692.12065.328.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1095885414.4588.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1095949692.12065.328.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1096052118.28198.5.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 10:28 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 15:36 -0500, Paul wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > How much memory is Evolution taking up? (i.e. is it excessive > > memory > > > usage that's causing the slowdown for you?) > > > ... snip ... > > It's in general > > > > > We probably should take this to bugzilla. > > > > I'll file something later. > > Sounds a lot like > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124512 > > Have yet to be able to respond to the latest request for info from Dave > Malcolm on that bug report as I can't get FC3T2/Evolution-2.0 to work on > any of the platforms I have available for test. Perhaps you can add > something there. If you're having problems getting these things to work, please file reports in Bugzilla (assuming that it's a technical thing, as opposed to lack of time etc!). I try to keep up with the mailing lists, but things are less likely to get lost in BZ. Thanks! From awol at home.nl Fri Sep 24 19:04:56 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:04:56 +0200 Subject: Nvidia driver and VMALLOC_RESERVE problem Message-ID: <20040924190456.GA2536@home.nl> Getting the nvidia driver (version 6111) working under FC3T2 (with kernel-2.6.8-1.584) is proving to be rather bothersome. First I encountered the 'no screen found problem'. After modprobing nvidia I encountered the 'unknown symbol VMALLOC_RESERVE' problem. I have no idea what is happening. Can anybody suggest a quick (and dirty) fix? Alexander From bavinic at comcast.net Fri Sep 24 19:04:44 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:04:44 -0400 Subject: Nvidia driver and VMALLOC_RESERVE problem In-Reply-To: <20040924190456.GA2536@home.nl> References: <20040924190456.GA2536@home.nl> Message-ID: <41546FCC.7010306@comcast.net> First thing I would do is lose the 2.6.8-1.584 kernel, it has been pulled from the update list, so I can only assume that is because it is buggy as hell. the nVida driver works great with 2.6.8-1.541 I know this wasn't much help, but I had the same problem and that is what I ended up doing. BaVinic Alexander Volovics wrote: >Getting the nvidia driver (version 6111) working under FC3T2 (with >kernel-2.6.8-1.584) is proving to be rather bothersome. > >First I encountered the 'no screen found problem'. >After modprobing nvidia I encountered the 'unknown symbol VMALLOC_RESERVE' >problem. > >I have no idea what is happening. >Can anybody suggest a quick (and dirty) fix? > >Alexander > > > > From awol at home.nl Fri Sep 24 19:22:13 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:22:13 +0200 Subject: Nvidia driver and VMALLOC_RESERVE problem In-Reply-To: <41546FCC.7010306@comcast.net> References: <20040924190456.GA2536@home.nl> <41546FCC.7010306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040924192213.GA2668@home.nl> On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 03:04:44PM -0400, Jim Martin wrote: > >First I encountered the 'no screen found problem'. > >After modprobing nvidia I encountered the 'unknown symbol VMALLOC_RESERVE' > >problem. > First thing I would do is lose the 2.6.8-1.584 kernel, it has been > pulled from the update list, so I can only assume that is because it is > buggy as hell. > the nVida driver works great with 2.6.8-1.541 Thanks for the tip, I will give 2.6.8-1.541 a try. Alexander From riel at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 19:27:12 2004 From: riel at redhat.com (Rik van Riel) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED Message-ID: The Fedora Core 3 freeze is coming soon, so it's time again for the frantic activities of a Bug Week. This time with community participation. The idea is to fix as many bugs as possible in the week from Sunday, September 26th till Friday, October 1st. Yes, it starts this weekend... The goal of Bug Week is to fix as many of the annoying bugs out there as possible, so Fedora Core 3 ends up being a nice distribution without rough edges. We're going for quantity here, trying to fix all the easily fixable bugs that annoy users. Of course, if you have a fix for a harder to resolve problem, you're more than welcome to contribute it! Developers: you can help by fixing bugs and reviewing the proposed fixes that other people mail to the fedora-patches-list, or that get attached to bugzilla. Packaging bugs are another category where we can use your help. Testers: you can help by verifying whether old bugs are still present in rawhide, as well as by testing proposed fixes sent in by developers. Bug triagers: you can help by gathering information on NEEDINFO bugs, as well as by helping assess the importance of bugs. Everybody: this is a chance to get the bugs fixed that you care about! Developers from all engineering groups in Red Hat are standing by to fix bugs together with you, to apply submitted bug fixes and to make test RPMs available on the Bug Week repositories. To participate in Bug Week, you can use the normal channels of communication: - For discussion: fedora-devel-list, fedora-tools-list, fedora-test-list - For proposed patches: fedora-patches-list (so others have a chance of reviewing the proposed patches and verifying that they are ok) - For verified patches: bugzilla (to keep track of the patch) - IRC: #fedora-bugweek on irc.freenode.net If you want to nominate a bug for being fixed this Bug Week, please send an email to me (riel at redhat.com) and the owner of the bug that you want to nominate for the Bug Week must-fix list. Note that bugs will only be accepted for the Bug Week must-fix list if there is a realistic chance of fixing them this week. More information will be available soon, on: http://bugweek.fedora.redhat.com/ Developers, remember to subscribe to fedora-patches-list: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-patches-list You can track our progress on the FC3 Bug Week Tracker bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=FC3BugWeekTracker From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri Sep 24 19:31:11 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:31:11 -0400 Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096054271.6256.2.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> > Developers: you can help by fixing bugs and reviewing the proposed > fixes that other people mail to the fedora-patches-list, > or that get attached to bugzilla. Packaging bugs are > another category where we can use your help. > Testers: you can help by verifying whether old bugs are still present > in rawhide, as well as by testing proposed fixes sent in by > developers. > Bug triagers: you can help by gathering information on NEEDINFO bugs, as > well as by helping assess the importance of bugs. > Everybody: this is a chance to get the bugs fixed that you care about! > I hope that the bugs people will be filing will be BUGS and not RFEs. Bugweek should not be about ranting about your most desired feature. -sv From barryn at pobox.com Fri Sep 24 19:50:12 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:50:12 -0700 Subject: Nvidia driver and VMALLOC_RESERVE problem In-Reply-To: <41546FCC.7010306@comcast.net> References: <20040924190456.GA2536@home.nl> <41546FCC.7010306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040924195012.GC5801@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 03:04:44PM -0400, Jim Martin wrote: > First thing I would do is lose the 2.6.8-1.584 kernel, it has been > pulled from the update list, so I can only assume that is because it is > buggy as hell. It was pulled due to SELinux bugs in particular. > the nVida driver works great with 2.6.8-1.541 > > I know this wasn't much help, but I had the same problem and that is > what I ended up doing. The VMALLOC_RESERVE problem is an NVidia driver problem, not a kernel bug. There was a one-line workaround for the nvidia driver posted to the linux-kernel mailing list (the problem happens with recent mm kernels too). -Barry K. Nathan From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Fri Sep 24 20:02:57 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:02:57 -0400 Subject: Nvidia driver and VMALLOC_RESERVE problem In-Reply-To: <41546FCC.7010306@comcast.net> References: <20040924190456.GA2536@home.nl> <41546FCC.7010306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <41547D71.3090809@rogers.com> Jim Martin wrote: > First thing I would do is lose the 2.6.8-1.584 kernel, it has been > pulled from the update list, so I can only assume that is because it > is buggy as hell. > > the nVida driver works great with 2.6.8-1.541 > > I know this wasn't much help, but I had the same problem and that is > what I ended up doing. > I have noticed that I have to run the nvidia installer twice to get it working with udev. Running the installer only once cause screen not found with xorg. Running it twice does fix the problem. Dwaine. From adam at dynamicinteraction.co.uk Fri Sep 24 20:39:34 2004 From: adam at dynamicinteraction.co.uk (Mr. Adam ALLEN) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:39:34 +0100 Subject: Ximian Evolution Connector with SSL connections. In-Reply-To: <1095970133.21451.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1095969936.18225.1.camel@elsol.zwan.mellon-collie.net> <1095970133.21451.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096058374.3709.47.camel@elsol.zwan.mellon-collie.net> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 16:08 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 21:05 +0100, Mr. Adam ALLEN wrote: > > I can't connect to works Exchange server with Ximian Connector when > > using SSL. Before jumping into bugzilla wanted to see if anyone else has > > found problems with this. > > Try grabbing the latest version of libsoup from rawhide. SSL support > was broken until version 2.2.0-2 (which hit rawhide this morning) > That certainly does solve the problem... 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In-Reply-To: <1096058374.3709.47.camel@elsol.zwan.mellon-collie.net> References: <1095969936.18225.1.camel@elsol.zwan.mellon-collie.net> <1095970133.21451.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1096058374.3709.47.camel@elsol.zwan.mellon-collie.net> Message-ID: <1096060586.22334.2.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 21:39 +0100, Mr. Adam ALLEN wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 16:08 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 21:05 +0100, Mr. Adam ALLEN wrote: > > > I can't connect to works Exchange server with Ximian Connector when > > > using SSL. Before jumping into bugzilla wanted to see if anyone else has > > > found problems with this. > > > > Try grabbing the latest version of libsoup from rawhide. SSL support > > was broken until version 2.2.0-2 (which hit rawhide this morning) > > > > That certainly does solve the problem... Great - that's good to hear. If you find any more problems, please do bugzilla them. Dave From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 24 22:17:58 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:17:58 -0400 Subject: Installing FC3test2 into VMWare In-Reply-To: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> References: <415414CA.5090101@talios.com> Message-ID: <41549D16.3070504@sbcglobal.net> Mark Derricutt wrote: > I've just tried for the second time to install my freshly downloaded > FC3test2 burns into VMWare, but Anaconda always complains theres not > enough diskspace to install, has anyone installed FC3 into VMWare > successfully? > > I installed it in vmware with XP as the host OS without a problem through the the installer. It had a kernel panic post-install when booting into the OS. There was no problem relating to diskspace issues. Jim From feliciano.matias at free.fr Fri Sep 24 22:32:35 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:32:35 +0200 Subject: yum kernel not updating In-Reply-To: <1096002275.5304.3.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <604aa79104092312027cd0da3c@mail.gmail.com> <1096002275.5304.3.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1096065151.25481.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le ven 24/09/2004 ? 07:04, Rodd Clarkson a ?crit : > > You need to read the daily rawhide reports. The kernel was reverted > > back to 541.. the 584 kernel is no longer in the development tree. So > > in this case... yum is behaving correctly > > Where does one find these daily rawhide reports? fedora-devel-list mailing or : http://fw07.dmacc.net/rawhide-reports/index.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It still works fine with 24 as the depth setting. The last BIOS upgrade put it up to an 815e if that makes any difference in why your card does not work. > >>There is also a triaged bug for the i810 at the below link. This >>includes the noacceleration parameter for X. The bug I filed earlier was >>marke as a duplicate of this report. > I dug through the bug report and examined where the NoAccel option is located. The bug reporter had very high resolution settings. This line might work when added. One note about this refresh problem. The server related functions have to be restarted before you can run without the screen messing up. I rebooted to cure this. I wasn't sure as to what to restart without rebooting. Changing from runlevel 3 to runlevel 5 didn't do the trick. The refreshproblem was still present. Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "i810" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "Intel 815" Option "NoAccel" EndSection > > > I was wondering if I turned DRI, etc. off, if it might work normally... I > wonder exactly what is failing. Someone mentioned before bad memory, but > according to dmesg, this card has 4mb dedicated memory. > I think this was tried by Mike and he had to cold reboot and the other installation, FC2 was affected by this problem. I might have misinterpreted his refresh, no dri problem. Jim > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132267 >> > > thx, > noah silva > > From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 24 22:58:49 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:58:49 -0400 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <4154401D.8030703@streamyx.com> References: <4154401D.8030703@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <4154A6A9.2070804@sbcglobal.net> Mazli Alias wrote: > Noah Silva [Mailing list] wrote: > >> >> I was wondering if I turned DRI, etc. off, if it might work normally... I >> wonder exactly what is failing. Someone mentioned before bad memory, but >> according to dmesg, this card has 4mb dedicated memory. >> >> >> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132267 >>> >>> I am getting sort of a vague refresh problem when highlighting test in >>> moz mail. This is very minimal failure though. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> > > try increasing the number of graphics ram in the bios. > > This problem when highlighting text seemed like the screen was slightly increasing and decreasing horizontal scan. The max setting for one legacy video memory is only 1 MB and the other setting is set at 64 MB. It could have been the beer, but I doubt it. Though I don't see the waivering screen now. Jim From thomasz at hostmaster.org Fri Sep 24 23:14:12 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:14:12 +0200 Subject: udev problems Message-ID: <1096067652.17995.24.camel@hostmaster.org> Hi, although I suspect it is not recommended practice I do a regulary "rpm --freshen *.rpm" from my local rawhide mirror. This recently left me with an almost empty /dev directory that did not even allow me to boot with init=/bin/bash. I guess the udev update was missing udevstart in the %postinstall script. Now I am still missing at least my USB tty devices (for Palm) and have a non world-readable /dev/rtc. Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key The three Rs of Microsoft support: Retry, Reboot, Reinstall. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri Sep 24 23:37:31 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (maxer1) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:37:31 -0600 Subject: FC3 T2 alsactl store issues unresolved Message-ID: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> Latest dev after FC3T2 upgrade. Here is what I have in modprobe.conf. This hasn't changed to my knowledge in over the last several iterations of Fedora: alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1 alias snd-card-1 snd-intel8x0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 I can get the sound to work after I go to either gnome-volume-control (unmute) or do a re-detect in system-config-soundcard after boot. Any ideas why alsactl store doesn't appear to be working at all? Is this a problem in initscripts? RaXeT From nalin at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 23:40:51 2004 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:40:51 -0400 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <1096067652.17995.24.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <1096067652.17995.24.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <20040924234051.GI7464@redhat.com> On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 01:14:12AM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > although I suspect it is not recommended practice I do a regulary "rpm > --freshen *.rpm" from my local rawhide mirror. This recently left me > with an almost empty /dev directory that did not even allow me to boot > with init=/bin/bash. I guess the udev update was missing udevstart in > the %postinstall script. The trigger in udev should have done that when dev was removed. Did you have UDEV_INITRD changed from its default to "no"? That'd break your box at reboot (not starting udev early implies that you can depend on /dev being there, and it's gone), and then it's time to find a rescue disk. > Now I am still missing at least my USB tty devices (for Palm) Historically, I wasn't been able to attach to the device until the PDA was attempting to sync. When you press the sync button, does udev create the device nodes? If not, then there's a bug somewhere. > and have a > non world-readable /dev/rtc. That's a "MAKEDEV-and-udev disagree on permissions" thing. There are probably going to be others -- please file this as a bug against either MAKEDEV or udev. At some point maybe I should wrestle a udev person for the right to decide, and take a dive. Nalin From alan at clueserver.org Fri Sep 24 23:43:43 2004 From: alan at clueserver.org (Alan) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:43:43 -0700 Subject: FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso image too big to burn to DVD? In-Reply-To: <20040924174618.GE14260@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <41545B33.3060508@wsm.com> <20040924174618.GE14260@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096069423.4969.7.camel@zontar.fnordora.org> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 10:46, Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 10:36:51AM -0700, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > matches what is listed. I have tried several different makes of 4.7GB > > media and burn packages (xcdroast, cdrecord-prodvd, Nero/Windows) and > > every one claims the image is too big to burn to DVD. Could the DVD > > image posted for download be actually too large to be written to media? > > Yes, you apparently need something that can overburn a little. Or I ended up > using PXE and NFS installing the image 8) Actually you need something that will burn dual layer discs. BTW, i figured out why it went so far over. There are a number of packages that have both the i386 and x86_64 packages. And you can't just delete all the i386 packages, because some are i386 only. (Like emacspeak.) A perl script that pulls any i386 package that has a matching x86_64 package would save a lot of pain in the future. I am testing the AMD64 version on my new HP zv5000z laptop. AMD64 3700+ with a gig of memory and a 19200x1200 screen. VERY sweet! Any way to get the debug packages for FC3-test2? -- 'This message has not been made with the consent or cooperation of the Federal Board of Regulations (F.B.R.) or the Central Enquires Agency (C.E.A.). Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental, and so forth and so on. From varanava at takas.lt Fri Sep 24 23:50:39 2004 From: varanava at takas.lt (Andrius) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:50:39 +0300 Subject: Can't install Fedora Core 3 test2 for AMD64 Message-ID: <1096069839.3039.8.camel@skynet.vl> I have recently downloaded Fedora Core 3 test2 for AMD64. However I can't install it. I got an error message "Bug: Assertion (heads > 0) at disk_dos.c:471 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed.". If I press cancel, I can go further through installation steps, however it stops with the same problem when it is time to copy packages to hard drive. Is it known problem? My computer is: AMD Athlon64 3200+ Apacer 512 MB RAM Sapphire Radeon 9200SE Gigabyte GA-K8VT800 motherboard Seagate ST3120026AS 120GB hard drive From notting at redhat.com Fri Sep 24 23:56:54 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:56:54 -0400 Subject: FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso image too big to burn to DVD? In-Reply-To: <1096069423.4969.7.camel@zontar.fnordora.org> References: <41545B33.3060508@wsm.com> <20040924174618.GE14260@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096069423.4969.7.camel@zontar.fnordora.org> Message-ID: <20040924235654.GB19801@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Alan (alan at clueserver.org) said: > A perl script that pulls any i386 package that has a matching x86_64 > package would save a lot of pain in the future. That sort of misses the point. They're libraries for running ia32 apps on x86-64. > Any way to get the debug packages for FC3-test2? 2.91/{arch}/debug on the FTP site. Bill From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Sep 24 23:57:03 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:57:03 -0400 Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: <20040924232910.94827.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040924232910.94827.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <604aa79104092416575114926b@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT), Steve G wrote: > Is there a prioritized "most wanted list" or some means of coordinating what > people work on? I just don't want to spend time on something that someone else is > already patching. Perhaps a wiki page somewhere could be used to provide this sort of co-ordination between patch contributors? Or perhaps a simple comment in the appropriate bug ticket informing the developer and other potential community patch contributors that you are attempting to work on it. -jef From gmccague at gmail.com Sat Sep 25 00:08:15 2004 From: gmccague at gmail.com (Gordon McCague) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:08:15 -0700 Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: <3d86007804092217254dcd691e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d86007804092217254dcd691e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This is a good thing to know! I'll give it a shot for my next download. I have to determine if I am actually using a decent version of Bittorrent as well. There seems to be a number of them out there. On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:25:35 +0100, Martin Alderson wrote: > Apart from that is impossible since BitTorrent checks SHA1 hashes > every 1MB and also for every file. Either the BitTorrent images are > faulty or you have burnt them incorrectly. > > BitTorrent will never say file complete if it does not match > checksums, simple as that. > > Martin > > > > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:17:25 -0700, Gordon McCague wrote: > > "About the problems ftp'ing FC3 images: Bittorrent is your > > friend. You may not be able to contribute back as much as > > you downloaded, but every gigabyte of bandwidth helps." > > > > I tried Bittorrent first on Linux without success. The disks would not > > boot correctly. It is certainly possible that I made a mistake in > > creating the disks but wanted to use tried and true FTP to make sure I > > had decent files. It appears that the images I received from Limestone > > are perfect. Now on to the installation! > > -- > > Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com > > http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ > > p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > -- > Get Firefox - Popup blocking, tabbed browsing and great security: > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=9&t=1 > -- Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat Sep 25 00:10:37 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:10:37 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 -- Mouse Cursor gone sometimes after screen saver Message-ID: <4154B77D.6020500@austin.rr.com> Hi, Sometimes after resuming from a blank screen saver, my mouse cursor is gone. I'm using KDE as my desktop. Byte From gmccague at gmail.com Sat Sep 25 00:20:37 2004 From: gmccague at gmail.com (Gordon McCague) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:20:37 -0700 Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: <1095905819.4687.38.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> References: <1095905819.4687.38.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: I've been using Linux varities off and on since Slackware 0.99 (mostly as a server). It is only lately that I have converted my workstation over to Linux completely. I finally felt that I could get everything I needed. I was proven right today. I've just installed FC3. I have not done anything with respect to configuration except for what is needed for installation and update. I hooked up my Sony DSC-P52 (PTP Mode) to the USB port and the import tool automatically loaded. It does not even do that on the "You Know What" operating system. I have to figure out why k3b burned me with the burning. Excuse the pun. Still better than the trouble I had with Nero and my DVD Burner (LG). On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:16:59 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: > Bittorrent has always worked for me. I haven't used it lately because I > need to change my firewall code to point to a different destination > machine for the Bittorrent ports, but when I've used it in the past, it > has been great. I want > > It is most likely that you made a mistake in burning your CDs. I think > most everyone has. I've tossed my fair share of bad CDs too. > > Bob > > > > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:17, Gordon McCague wrote: > > "About the problems ftp'ing FC3 images: Bittorrent is your > > friend. You may not be able to contribute back as much as > > you downloaded, but every gigabyte of bandwidth helps." > > > > I tried Bittorrent first on Linux without success. The disks would not > > boot correctly. It is certainly possible that I made a mistake in > > creating the disks but wanted to use tried and true FTP to make sure I > > had decent files. It appears that the images I received from Limestone > > are perfect. Now on to the installation! > > -- > > Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com > > http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ > > p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 > > > > -- Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 From gmccague at gmail.com Sat Sep 25 00:21:44 2004 From: gmccague at gmail.com (Gordon McCague) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:21:44 -0700 Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: References: <1095905819.4687.38.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: I'm pretty sure it is the burning software. I'm using the command line cdrecord now with some success. I will also confirm the MD5sum next time. On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:19:41 -0700 (PDT), alan wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Robert L Cochran wrote: > > > Bittorrent has always worked for me. I haven't used it lately because I > > need to change my firewall code to point to a different destination > > machine for the Bittorrent ports, but when I've used it in the past, it > > has been great. I want > > > > It is most likely that you made a mistake in burning your CDs. I think > > most everyone has. I've tossed my fair share of bad CDs too. > > > > Bob > > > > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:17, Gordon McCague wrote: > > > "About the problems ftp'ing FC3 images: Bittorrent is your > > > friend. You may not be able to contribute back as much as > > > you downloaded, but every gigabyte of bandwidth helps." > > > > > > I tried Bittorrent first on Linux without success. The disks would not > > > boot correctly. It is certainly possible that I made a mistake in > > > creating the disks but wanted to use tried and true FTP to make sure I > > > had decent files. It appears that the images I received from Limestone > > > are perfect. Now on to the installation! > > > I have used bittorrent for every FC iso I have downloaded. (Which has > been more than five so far.) > > I have yet to get a bad iso. Every one I have downloaded has had an MD5sum > file to verify the iso before burning. > > md5sum -c MD5SUM > > is your friend. > > It may be your burning software or some other factor. > > -- Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 From alan at redhat.com Sat Sep 25 00:47:15 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:47:15 -0400 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <4154A4DE.6040307@sbcglobal.net> References: <4154A4DE.6040307@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040925004715.GA14745@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 06:51:10PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > It still works fine with 24 as the depth setting. The last BIOS upgrade > put it up to an 815e if that makes any difference in why your card does > not work. There are some changes on the i810/5 side in XOrg 6.8.* and they seem to be triggering a bug or two on some setups. From alan at redhat.com Sat Sep 25 00:54:14 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:54:14 -0400 Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: References: <1095905819.4687.38.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: <20040925005414.GC14745@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 05:21:44PM -0700, Gordon McCague wrote: > I'm pretty sure it is the burning software. I'm using the command line > cdrecord now with some success. I will also confirm the MD5sum next > time. The cd verify is broken for IDE. You must use ide-scsi, 2.4 kernels or scsi to verify CD MD5sums reliably. From afrimit at yahoo.com Sat Sep 25 01:05:28 2004 From: afrimit at yahoo.com (Afrim) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: yum update problem! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi, i'm new at linux but i know a fiew things and i'm trying to update some of the releases of the packages for FC3T2 and when i run 'yum upadate' it gives me an error. Also, i don't know if this is intentional but the yum version that i have does not have the search option enabled.... here's what happendes when i run update from yum as root. begins now.....----> [root at localhost fimi]# yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files developmen: ################################################## 3500/3500 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree Resolving Dependencies Restarting Dependency Process with new changes Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany <----ends now From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 25 01:27:13 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:27:13 -0400 Subject: Various computer installs and results. In-Reply-To: <20040925004715.GA14745@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4154A4DE.6040307@sbcglobal.net> <20040925004715.GA14745@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4154C971.2080605@sbcglobal.net> Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 06:51:10PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>It still works fine with 24 as the depth setting. The last BIOS upgrade >>put it up to an 815e if that makes any difference in why your card does >>not work. > > > There are some changes on the i810/5 side in XOrg 6.8.* and they seem to > be triggering a bug or two on some setups. > > Thanks for the info regarding changes ongoing with the i810/5 side. The changes somewhere from the pre-cvs version zapped the random crashing problem that the 828 656 was having. This card works steady now. I was assuming that the improvements for this 865(?) Graphics controller were sacrificing the 815 stability, since they both use the same driver. Jim From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sat Sep 25 01:49:38 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:49:38 -0700 Subject: unable to install new kernel linux-2.6.8.1 In-Reply-To: <20040923151322.70721.qmail@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <20040923151322.70721.qmail@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096076978.21502.18.camel@CirithUngol> Rather than build your own kernel I really suggest you use Rawhide RPMs.. even if you use the source RPM and recompile it to change the config or enable optimizations it is better than moving to the vanilla sources. But if you really want to, maybe the comments below will help. On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 08:13 -0700, amit kumar wrote: > while installing the new kernel i found certain > errors.i 'll explain wat i did from the start: > initially i gunzipped that file in the folder > linux-2.6.8.1 in /usr/src/.then i form the bzimage of > the kernel and also save it into the > /kernel/mynewkernel/. > in the samefolder i save the the System.map from the > /usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1/.after that i did make modules > and make menuconfig. after that i changed the menu.lst > file of /boot/grub/.in which i wrote the following > line > title Linux 2.6.8.1 with all my new configuration > root (hd0,8) > kernel /boot/mynewkernel root=/dev/hda9 You should copy your previous RPM installed kernel entry first, and then modify it, make sure you haven't changed the 'root (hd0,8)' from the working one. Note: the root= entry should be your actual / partition, but it probably is also labeled as 'root=LABEL=/' (using this you do not need the actual device). The entry after 'kernel' is the bzImage itself, it appears you are pointing this at a directory, that will not work. Perhaps you mean to have 'kernel /boot/mynewkernel/bzImage' or something similar. You also have no mention of using an Initial Ramdisk. Fedora uses a ramdisk so if you have built this kernel using the Fedora config as a starting point.. you probably need one. See the guide linked below for more info on that. > then i restart the computer i m getting the > linux-2.6.8.1 but when i press enter on that it gives > error in line 15. Is line 15 in your /boot/grub/grub.conf file the new 'kernel' line? > or cannot mount. > who ever want to reply plzz reply > ammy If this gets you nowhere then review this document for any basic steps you may have missed: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lordmorgul on irc.freenode.net From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Sat Sep 25 02:20:33 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:20:33 -0400 Subject: unable to install new kernel linux-2.6.8.1 In-Reply-To: <1096076978.21502.18.camel@CirithUngol> References: <20040923151322.70721.qmail@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> <1096076978.21502.18.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <4154D5F1.6030108@rogers.com> Andrew Farris wrote: >Rather than build your own kernel I really suggest you use Rawhide >RPMs.. even if you use the source RPM and recompile it to change the >config or enable optimizations it is better than moving to the vanilla >sources. But if you really want to, maybe the comments below will help. > >On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 08:13 -0700, amit kumar wrote: > > >>while installing the new kernel i found certain >>errors.i 'll explain wat i did from the start: >>initially i gunzipped that file in the folder >>linux-2.6.8.1 in /usr/src/.then i form the bzimage of >>the kernel and also save it into the >>/kernel/mynewkernel/. >>in the samefolder i save the the System.map from the >>/usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1/.after that i did make modules >>and make menuconfig. after that i changed the menu.lst >>file of /boot/grub/.in which i wrote the following >>line >>title Linux 2.6.8.1 with all my new configuration >> root (hd0,8) >> kernel /boot/mynewkernel root=/dev/hda9 >> >> > >You should copy your previous RPM installed kernel entry first, and then >modify it, make sure you haven't changed the 'root (hd0,8)' from the >working one. > >Note: the root= entry should be your actual / partition, but it probably >is also labeled as 'root=LABEL=/' (using this you do not need the actual >device). > >The entry after 'kernel' is the bzImage itself, it appears you are >pointing this at a directory, that will not work. Perhaps you mean to >have 'kernel /boot/mynewkernel/bzImage' or something similar. > >You also have no mention of using an Initial Ramdisk. Fedora uses a >ramdisk so if you have built this kernel using the Fedora config as a >starting point.. you probably need one. See the guide linked below for >more info on that. > > > >>then i restart the computer i m getting the >>linux-2.6.8.1 but when i press enter on that it gives >>error in line 15. >> >> > >Is line 15 in your /boot/grub/grub.conf file the new 'kernel' line? > > > >>or cannot mount. >>who ever want to reply plzz reply >>ammy >> >> > >If this gets you nowhere then review this document for any basic steps >you may have missed: > >http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html > > > There is a problem with the stanard kernel 2.6.8.1. It does not like udev. Been there... I was getting the kernel hanging when it tried to run udevstart. Dwaine. From mboxof-fedora at yahoo.com Sat Sep 25 02:32:43 2004 From: mboxof-fedora at yahoo.com (C.N.) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: <20040925005414.GC14745@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040925023243.36853.qmail@web13922.mail.yahoo.com> This doesn't sound good. Is it a general problem for reading large files or just for md5sum? Where can I get more info on this? --- Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 05:21:44PM -0700, Gordon McCague wrote: > > I'm pretty sure it is the burning software. I'm using the command line > > cdrecord now with some success. I will also confirm the MD5sum next > > time. > > The cd verify is broken for IDE. You must use ide-scsi, 2.4 kernels or > scsi to verify CD MD5sums reliably. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ngc4013 at cox.net Sat Sep 25 02:39:27 2004 From: ngc4013 at cox.net (Bill Cronk) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:39:27 -0400 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 75 In-Reply-To: <20040924105904.790B673430@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040924105904.790B673430@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4154DA5F.5060504@cox.net> > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 06:44:25 +0000 >From: Gabriel Moreno >Subject: Not able to install with reiser option or no format option >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <85e4e9640409232344672215b2 at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Hi, > >I was not able to install FC3test2 when I selected not to format my >aready reiserfs partitions. When I passed the linux reiserfs same >thing happened. it got stuck right before installing packages. > > > > > > Funny thing I went around in circles with the reiserfs problem and FC2test2. What fixed my problem was entering at the install boot prompt: linux reiserfs selinux=0 Without the selinux=0 you should find that the installation will not start and will hang at the point where the reiserfs formating should occur. Bill From alan at clueserver.org Sat Sep 25 03:38:20 2004 From: alan at clueserver.org (Alan) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:38:20 -0700 Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: References: <1095905819.4687.38.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: <1096083498.6480.11.camel@zontar.fnordora.org> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 17:21, Gordon McCague wrote: > I'm pretty sure it is the burning software. I'm using the command line > cdrecord now with some success. I will also confirm the MD5sum next > time. What command line options are you using? I have tried getting it to work on my dvd burner and I get an odd scsi error and a message about not being able to open another session. Growisofs burns a little bit and then stops. > > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:19:41 -0700 (PDT), alan wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Robert L Cochran wrote: > > > > > Bittorrent has always worked for me. I haven't used it lately because I > > > need to change my firewall code to point to a different destination > > > machine for the Bittorrent ports, but when I've used it in the past, it > > > has been great. I want > > > > > > It is most likely that you made a mistake in burning your CDs. I think > > > most everyone has. I've tossed my fair share of bad CDs too. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:17, Gordon McCague wrote: > > > > "About the problems ftp'ing FC3 images: Bittorrent is your > > > > friend. You may not be able to contribute back as much as > > > > you downloaded, but every gigabyte of bandwidth helps." > > > > > > > > I tried Bittorrent first on Linux without success. The disks would not > > > > boot correctly. It is certainly possible that I made a mistake in > > > > creating the disks but wanted to use tried and true FTP to make sure I > > > > had decent files. It appears that the images I received from Limestone > > > > are perfect. Now on to the installation! > > > > > > I have used bittorrent for every FC iso I have downloaded. (Which has > > been more than five so far.) > > > > I have yet to get a bad iso. Every one I have downloaded has had an MD5sum > > file to verify the iso before burning. > > > > md5sum -c MD5SUM > > > > is your friend. > > > > It may be your burning software or some other factor. > > > > > > > > -- > Gordon McCague gmccague at gmail.com > http://www.gmccague.bc.ca/ > p: (250) 813-0027 f: (250) 813-0195 -- 'This message has not been made with the consent or cooperation of the Federal Board of Regulations (F.B.R.) or the Central Enquires Agency (C.E.A.). Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental, and so forth and so on. From seandarcy at hotmail.com Sat Sep 25 03:42:39 2004 From: seandarcy at hotmail.com (sean darcy) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:42:39 -0400 Subject: why don't my udev 1394 rules work? Message-ID: I'm trying to use rules to set up prsistent 1394 devices. Following some googled advice I created a 10-udev.rules files in /etc/udev/rules.d: BUS="ieee1394" , SYSFS{name}="DV/1394 Driver" , NAME="dv1394" BUS="ieee1394" , SYSFS{name}="raw1394 Driver" , NAME="raw1394" based on udevinfo -a -p /sys/bus/ieee1394/drivers/dv1394/ looking at class device '/sys/bus/ieee1394/drivers/dv1394': SYSFS{device_ids}="specifier_id=0x00a02d,version=0x010001" SYSFS{name}="DV/1394 Driver" and: udevinfo -a -p /sys/bus/ieee1394/drivers/raw1394/ looking at class device '/sys/bus/ieee1394/drivers/raw1394': SYSFS{name}="raw1394 Driver" Rebooted 2.6.8-1.541 and expected to see /dev/dv1394 and /dev/raw1394. But I didn't. How come? What do I need to do? sean From mike at ascendency.net Sat Sep 25 04:08:53 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:08:53 -0500 Subject: Apt-get FC3T2? Message-ID: <200409250410.i8P4Ati64558@fat_man.ascendency.net> Anyone using apt-get with the new Test 2 release? If so, any special config options? ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From justin_georgeson at yahoo.com Sat Sep 25 04:22:54 2004 From: justin_georgeson at yahoo.com (Justin Georgeson) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: text mode install off rescue CD Message-ID: <20040925042254.63791.qmail@web20021.mail.yahoo.com> After running into the anticipated Anaconda crapping out problem trying to install FC3T2 on my dell insprion 2600, I tried using both "linux nofb" and "linux text" with no change. What really shocked me was that "linux text" tried to launch the GUI installer. Anyone else seeing this? Should I bugzilla (I don't see any existing bur reports for it) _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat Sep 25 05:12:26 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:12:26 +0200 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <20040924234051.GI7464@redhat.com> References: <1096067652.17995.24.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040924234051.GI7464@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096089146.8504.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 25/09/2004 ? 01:40, Nalin Dahyabhai a ?crit : > On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 01:14:12AM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > > and have a > > non world-readable /dev/rtc. > > That's a "MAKEDEV-and-udev disagree on permissions" thing. There are > probably going to be others -- please file this as a bug against either > MAKEDEV or udev. At some point maybe I should wrestle a udev person for > the right to decide, and take a dive. Or add rtc to /etc/security/console.perms . > > Nalin > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From alan at redhat.com Sat Sep 25 05:20:38 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:20:38 -0400 Subject: Bittorrent and Download FC3 In-Reply-To: <20040925023243.36853.qmail@web13922.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040925005414.GC14745@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040925023243.36853.qmail@web13922.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040925052038.GA4717@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 07:32:43PM -0700, C.N. wrote: > This doesn't sound good. Is it a general problem for reading large files or > just for md5sum? Where can I get more info on this? 2.6 IDE CD error handling bug. It really only bits you with copying raw CD data (and thus md5sum) From byte at aeon.com.my Sat Sep 25 05:24:16 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:24:16 +1000 Subject: Apt-get FC3T2? In-Reply-To: <200409250410.i8P4Ati64558@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409250410.i8P4Ati64558@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <1096089855.16014.155.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 14:08, Mike Loiterman wrote: > Anyone using apt-get with the new Test 2 release? I don't think there are any repositories available for you to use apt with, at the moment (rolling out fc3test2 packages) -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org Sat Sep 25 05:35:34 2004 From: prothonotar at tarnation.dyndns.org (Aaron Gaudio) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:35:34 -0400 Subject: Apt-get FC3T2? In-Reply-To: <1096089855.16014.155.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <200409250410.i8P4Ati64558@fat_man.ascendency.net> <1096089855.16014.155.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <1096090535.31334.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 15:24 +1000, Colin Charles wrote: > On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 14:08, Mike Loiterman wrote: > > Anyone using apt-get with the new Test 2 release? > > I don't think there are any repositories available for you to use apt > with, at the moment (rolling out fc3test2 packages) http://ayo.freshrpms.net has fc3test2 from the development branch. I used 'apt-get upgrade' rather than dist-upgrade; dist-upgrade wanted to remove too many things. The only problem I ran into was that gnome- bluetooth and libbtctl got removed because they depended on an old version of libopenobex. I grabbed the source rpms for these and rebuild manually. I'm currently missing a bunch of entries from the Preferences Menu, and trying to search archives to see if it's a known issue. Cheers. -- Aaron Gaudio From arjanv at redhat.com Sat Sep 25 06:50:18 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:50:18 +0200 Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: <20040924232910.94827.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040924232910.94827.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096095017.17155.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 01:29, Steve G wrote: > Hi Rik, > > >We're going for quantity here, trying to fix all the > >easily fixable bugs that annoy users. > > Is there a prioritized "most wanted list" that's the tracker bug > or some means of coordinating what > people work on? 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Looking over RH/Fedora I couldn't find anything newer than 2.6.1-8.384. -- Tom Taylor registered linux user #263467 "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 From cylon at streamyx.com Sat Sep 25 07:24:37 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:24:37 +0800 Subject: Apt-get FC3T2? In-Reply-To: <1096090535.31334.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200409250410.i8P4Ati64558@fat_man.ascendency.net> <1096089855.16014.155.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <1096090535.31334.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <41551D35.5010006@streamyx.com> Aaron Gaudio wrote: >On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 15:24 +1000, Colin Charles wrote: > > >>On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 14:08, Mike Loiterman wrote: >> >> >>>Anyone using apt-get with the new Test 2 release? >>> >>> >>I don't think there are any repositories available for you to use apt >>with, at the moment (rolling out fc3test2 packages) >> >> > >http://ayo.freshrpms.net has fc3test2 from the development branch. >I used 'apt-get upgrade' rather than dist-upgrade; dist-upgrade wanted >to remove too many things. The only problem I ran into was that gnome- >bluetooth and libbtctl got removed because they depended on an old >version of libopenobex. I grabbed the source rpms for these and rebuild >manually. > >I'm currently missing a bunch of entries from the Preferences Menu, and >trying to search archives to see if it's a known issue. > >Cheers. > > > I believe apt dont work with amd64 because it didnt support multi-arch properly. From k7qo at commspeed.net Sat Sep 25 08:25:47 2004 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (Chuck Adams) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:25:47 -0700 Subject: Almost, but not quite there DVD x86_64 Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20040925010026.01c36ec0@mail.commspeed.net> Some one smarter than me can help on this one. Hopefully I have not made any typos in the following. For those that have downloaded the FC3t2 DVD.iso file and found it too large. And this is not for the faint of heart. I pay $0.49 or so for DVD blank discs and money is not an object, but I have made some coasters over the past few days.... :-) Here is what I have done, but it lacks one or more thing(s) that I don't know, so some one can finish where I screwed up...... If I happen to be on the right track. This for the obsessive compulsive that want to get this going this weekend. As root run through all the following commands: mkdir /tmp/newDVD (go to the directory where you have the iso file for FC3t2) mount FC3-test2-x86_64-DVD.iso -r -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt cd /mnt cp -r .discinfo * /tmp/newDVD (at this point you can leisurely move to the kitchen and make yourself a peanut butter and banana sandwich and chow down with a glass of milk) :-) Now you have the expanded DVD in /tmp/newDVD. Go to http://www.k7qo.net/rmscript and you'll find a script that will remove the *.i386.rpm files that are duplicated by a *.x86_64.rpm file. Put this script in a directory and chmod +x rmscript Now execute the script ./rmscript You now have a directory structure without the unneeded rpm's for the i386 and this is where there is an option that is needed that I don't know about. I did a mkisofs -U -R /tmp/newDVD > /tmp/FC3t2DVD.iso and I was able to generate a new iso file. I then used K3b to generate a new DVD but it will not boot. vmlinuz is not uncompressed and then the loading process is not started..... The file system on this DVD, when mounted looks good but something is missing. email me direct if you know what I did wrong and I'll then repost (if desired) all the necessary steps. I don't mind the time or the money...... I have a C code that runs in less than 18K (thus L1 cache) in the AMD Athlon 64. It is a serious 64-bit floating point code that will bring any system to it's knees. It runs 33%+ faster than an AMD Athlon XP at the same clock speed (2GHz). Monte Carlo simulation of electromagnetic transport in real planetary atmospheres...... I have some cases that take over 11hrs to run and then spit out a few hundred numbers through stdout. So you can see the obsession for getting an AMD64 running full tilt ASAP. Again, help appreciated. And hoping that I don't get banned. TIA Chuck Adams, K7QO CP-60 WPM k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.qsl.net/k7qo Ham Radio Stuff http://www.k7qo.net/ Physics Stuff Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water, please. From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sat Sep 25 08:44:03 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:44:03 -0700 Subject: unable to install new kernel linux-2.6.8.1 In-Reply-To: <200409250003.04749.linxt@comcast.net> References: <20040923151322.70721.qmail@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> <1096076978.21502.18.camel@CirithUngol> <200409250003.04749.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1096101843.21502.27.camel@CirithUngol> On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 00:03 -0700, Tom Taylor wrote: > On Friday 24 September 2004 18:49, Andrew Farris wrote: > > Rather than build your own kernel I really suggest you use Rawhide > > RPMs.. even if you use the source RPM and recompile it to change the > > config or enable optimizations it is better than moving to the vanilla > > sources. But if you really want to, maybe the comments below will help. > > > > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 08:13 -0700, amit kumar wrote: > > >>>>> snip <<<<< > > Where are Rawhide kernels located? Looking over RH/Fedora I couldn't find > anything newer than 2.6.1-8.384. Start here: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ The latest kernel available (also there for i686) is under this directory. /i386/Fedora/RPMS/kernel-2.6.8-1.541.i586.rpm You may prefer to use a more local mirror from this page: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html The Redhat main server is always under heavy loads and several of these have the development tree. > > -- > Tom Taylor > registered linux user #263467 > > "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," > "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our > people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 > -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lordmorgul on irc.freenode.net From cylon at streamyx.com Sat Sep 25 09:45:54 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:45:54 +0800 Subject: Almost, but not quite there DVD x86_64 In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20040925010026.01c36ec0@mail.commspeed.net> References: <6.1.2.0.0.20040925010026.01c36ec0@mail.commspeed.net> Message-ID: <41553E52.8030709@streamyx.com> Chuck Adams wrote: > > and I was able to generate a new iso file. I then used K3b to generate > a new DVD but it will not boot. vmlinuz is not uncompressed and then > the loading process is not started..... The file system on this DVD, > when mounted looks > good but something is missing. email me direct if you know what I > did wrong and I'll then repost (if desired) all the necessary steps. > I don't mind the time or the money...... > > > Chuck Adams, K7QO CP-60 WPM > k7qo at commspeed.net > http://www.qsl.net/k7qo Ham Radio Stuff > http://www.k7qo.net/ Physics Stuff i've made some sort of the same process but i instead remove the /src directory. It wont boot either..Redhat seemed made dvd differently from other distros...i once able to make a bootable dvd from a download tree of Suse ftp... 1. U can just make bootable .iso from /boot/boot.iso in the dvd and use it to make an installation that point to your dvd 2. Just like i do...burn with k3b with "allow overburn " under advance setting. It works...for me From rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa Sat Sep 25 09:51:16 2004 From: rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa (rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:51:16 +0300 Subject: hald daemon taking 97% of CPU time Message-ID: Hi List, This is my first email to FC Test list. I just installed FC3 test2 on my Dell Latitude C810. I did reinstall (not upgrade) on this laptop previously loaded with Redhat Linux 9 and WinXP. Installation went through without any problem. First impression with FC3 test-2 is very good. Every thing seems to be ok except hald daemon. This daemon is taking 85% to 98% of CPU time. What could be the reason? How to fix this? Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards?????. Rajesh From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Sep 25 10:39:26 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:39:26 +0100 Subject: FC3 T2 alsactl store issues unresolved In-Reply-To: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> References: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1096108766.4910.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > Any ideas why alsactl store doesn't appear to be working at all? > > Is this a problem in initscripts? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133535 You're not alone. TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This hasn't changed to my > knowledge in over the last several iterations of Fedora: > > alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 > install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1 > alias snd-card-1 snd-intel8x0 > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 > > I can get the sound to work after I go to either gnome-volume-control > (unmute) or do a re-detect in system-config-soundcard after boot. > > Any ideas why alsactl store doesn't appear to be working at all? > > Is this a problem in initscripts? Can you 'alsactl store' and 'alsactl restore' the mixer settings manually? When was /etc/asound.state last written to on your machine? What audio applications do you try? -- Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) - Linux 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 loadavg: 0.99 0.70 0.37 From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat Sep 25 12:10:16 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 14:10:16 +0200 Subject: yum update problem! In-Reply-To: <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> I have just installed FC3t2, and noticed that epiphany was the browser included. Great idea! I loved epiphany in fc2, and having it as default is great :D Kyrre l?r, 25.09.2004 kl. 12.40 skrev Paul: > Hi, > > > begins now.....----> > > > Resolving Dependencies > > Restarting Dependency Process with new changes > > Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany > > There is a packaging problem with epiphany. > > rpm -e epiphany sorts it out. > > TTFN > > Paul From talbotscott at cox.net Sat Sep 25 12:42:51 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 05:42:51 -0700 Subject: mount not paying attention Message-ID: <1096116171.7246.3.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Hi all: I haven't seen anyone else complaining about this or maybe I missed an instruction somewhere, but mount does not respect the noauto flag in fstab and mounts every partition on every drive upon every login. Am I the only one with this? Scott From byte at aeon.com.my Sat Sep 25 13:08:20 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:08:20 +1000 Subject: xfce option at installation time? In-Reply-To: <20040921235002.55275.qmail@web14107.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040921235002.55275.qmail@web14107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096117700.1984.1.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 09:50, Steven I Usdansky wrote: > Did I miss it or is there still no option to install xfce at installation time > (except, presumably, by selecting a full install)? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=125190 Its currently not available, but possibly might become available soon (hopefully) -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From cmkrnl at speakeasy.net Sat Sep 25 13:21:54 2004 From: cmkrnl at speakeasy.net (Andrew) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:21:54 -0400 Subject: mount not paying attention In-Reply-To: <1096116171.7246.3.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1096116171.7246.3.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <415570F2.1020308@speakeasy.net> Hi Scott, No, you are not the only one with this happening. Its the gnome-volume-manager doing it. There is a discussion over on the Utopia List about this "[Utopia] gvm mounting too much at startup" http://mail.gnome.org/archives/utopia-list/2004-September/msg00009.html There is a patch (2nd message) for g-v-m which you could use to fix it, but I don't know if that will be included as a released fix. Andrew Scott Talbot wrote: > Hi all: > >I haven't seen anyone else complaining about this or maybe I missed an >instruction somewhere, but mount does not respect the noauto flag in >fstab and mounts every partition on every drive upon every login. Am I >the only one with this? > > >Scott > > > > From neo.andersson at gmail.com Sat Sep 25 13:35:29 2004 From: neo.andersson at gmail.com (N.A.) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:35:29 +0800 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I can't find the kernel-source package on the FC3T2 CDs or the download web site? There is a kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm. I installed it but there is nothing at /usr/src? Thanks. From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Sat Sep 25 12:42:20 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 05:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: <1096095017.17155.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <20040925124220.13329.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> >> Is there a prioritized "most wanted list" > >that's the tracker bug IMHO, that is woefully inadequate. It refers you to bug 123268, which then has a list of bug numbers. Absolutely no idea what they are. If you are wanting free labor, you need to make it easy for people to see what needs to be done and volunteer to fix it. Suppose I want to work networking problems. Where do I find those bugs? I'm not going to click on each bug to see what its about. Are all those bugs in 123268 equal priority? I have probably 10 bugs with patches that are already tagged for 123268. The simply aren't applied or maybe they're in cvs but unreleased. From my point of view they are fixed, but awaiting developer attention. How many more of 123268 is like that? What's really needed to get people interested in helping is a web page that lists the bug's priority, the bug number (as a hyperlink so they can get the details), problem summary, and whether or not anyone is working it/status. The first 3 things can be pulled from bugzilla's SQL database. >make sure you join the irc channel; I suspect there's where people will >"claim" bugs... This can't be done any other way? I haven't code reviewed any IRC software and am reluctant to install or use it on my machine until I know I won't get hacked through it. I think Jeff's idea of a wiki page is easier. People don't have to punch IRC through their firewalls. The coordination is the key for bugweeks. -Steve Grubb _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com From martinalderson at gmail.com Sat Sep 25 13:50:29 2004 From: martinalderson at gmail.com (Martin Alderson) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 14:50:29 +0100 Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: <20040925124220.13329.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1096095017.17155.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <20040925124220.13329.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3d86007804092506507c3e6bf3@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 05:42:20 -0700 (PDT), Steve G wrote: > >> Is there a prioritized "most wanted list" > > > >that's the tracker bug > > IMHO, that is woefully inadequate. It refers you to bug 123268, which then has a > list of bug numbers. Absolutely no idea what they are. If you are wanting free > labor, you need to make it easy for people to see what needs to be done and > volunteer to fix it. Suppose I want to work networking problems. Where do I find > those bugs? I'm not going to click on each bug to see what its about. > > Are all those bugs in 123268 equal priority? I have probably 10 bugs with patches > that are already tagged for 123268. The simply aren't applied or maybe they're in > cvs but unreleased. From my point of view they are fixed, but awaiting developer > attention. How many more of 123268 is like that? > > What's really needed to get people interested in helping is a web page that lists > the bug's priority, the bug number (as a hyperlink so they can get the details), > problem summary, and whether or not anyone is working it/status. The first 3 > things can be pulled from bugzilla's SQL database. > > >make sure you join the irc channel; I suspect there's where people will > >"claim" bugs... > > This can't be done any other way? I haven't code reviewed any IRC software and am > reluctant to install or use it on my machine until I know I won't get hacked > through it. > > I think Jeff's idea of a wiki page is easier. People don't have to punch IRC > through their firewalls. The coordination is the key for bugweeks. Wow, I bet you're fun at a LAN party. Everyone else playing UT2k4, while you code review some other stuff to prevent you getting hacked. Hell, get yourself a cheap P2-400 and a 56k modem and use that for IRC, since you are so incredibly paranoid. Martin -- Get Firefox - Popup blocking, tabbed browsing and great security: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=9&t=1 From mitr at volny.cz Sat Sep 25 13:57:24 2004 From: mitr at volny.cz (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:57:24 +0200 Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: <20040925124220.13329.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1096095017.17155.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <20040925124220.13329.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040925135722.GA5384@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 05:42:20AM -0700, Steve G wrote: (snipped and reordered) > IMHO, that is woefully inadequate. It refers you to bug 123268, which then has a > list of bug numbers. > What's really needed to get people interested in helping is a web page that lists > the bug's priority, the bug number (as a hyperlink so they can get the details), > problem summary, and whether or not anyone is working it/status. The first 3 > things can be pulled from bugzilla's SQL database. The bug page has a "show dependency tree" link: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=123268 > Are all those bugs in 123268 equal priority? Priority is quite subjective... > I think Jeff's idea of a wiki page is easier. People don't have to punch IRC > through their firewalls. The coordination is the key for bugweeks. IRC is much more effective for real discussion than registering in a wiki and getting notification e-mails about changes by others, IMHO. Mirek From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat Sep 25 14:12:59 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:12:59 +0200 Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: <20040925124220.13329.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1096095017.17155.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <20040925124220.13329.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040925161259.367f1deb.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 05:42:20 -0700 (PDT), Steve G wrote: > >> Is there a prioritized "most wanted list" > > > >that's the tracker bug > > IMHO, that is woefully inadequate. It refers you to bug 123268, which then has a > list of bug numbers. Absolutely no idea what they are. If you are wanting free > labor, you need to make it easy for people to see what needs to be done and > volunteer to fix it. Suppose I want to work networking problems. Where do I find > those bugs? I'm not going to click on each bug to see what its about. Even moving the mouse pointer above each bug to get the tool-tip summary is less than ideal. But this page is somewhat better: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=123268 -- Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) - Linux 2.6.8-1.541 loadavg: 1.41 1.17 1.10 From thomasz at hostmaster.org Sat Sep 25 14:27:37 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:27:37 +0200 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <20040924234051.GI7464@redhat.com> References: <1096067652.17995.24.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040924234051.GI7464@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096122457.4206.8.camel@hostmaster.org> On Fre, 2004-09-24 at 19:40 -0400, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > Did you have UDEV_INITRD changed from its default to "no"? No, but I am using a custom kernel with no initrd at all, could that be the problem? I am now also seeing error messages immediately after boot about beeing unable to create /dev/stdout and some others on a read-only filesystem. > When you press the sync button, does udev create the device nodes? If > not, then there's a bug somewhere. Must have been a problem with one of my USB ports, using another port it now created the device node, but as expected not regarding console.perms > > and have a non world-readable /dev/rtc. > > That's a "MAKEDEV-and-udev disagree on permissions" thing. There are > probably going to be others -- please file this as a bug against either > MAKEDEV or udev. At some point maybe I should wrestle a udev person for > the right to decide, and take a dive. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133636 Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key Chaos is the only form of life, order was caused by the Nazis and millions died! - Peter Wenzl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From martinalderson at gmail.com Sat Sep 25 14:28:14 2004 From: martinalderson at gmail.com (Martin Alderson) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:28:14 +0100 Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: <20040925135722.GA5384@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1096095017.17155.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <20040925124220.13329.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> <20040925135722.GA5384@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <3d86007804092507288a35095@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:57:24 +0200, Miloslav Trmac wrote: > On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 05:42:20AM -0700, Steve G wrote: > (snipped and reordered) > > IMHO, that is woefully inadequate. It refers you to bug 123268, which then has a > > list of bug numbers. > > > What's really needed to get people interested in helping is a web page that lists > > the bug's priority, the bug number (as a hyperlink so they can get the details), > > problem summary, and whether or not anyone is working it/status. The first 3 > > things can be pulled from bugzilla's SQL database. > The bug page has a "show dependency tree" link: > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=123268 > > > Are all those bugs in 123268 equal priority? > Priority is quite subjective... > > > I think Jeff's idea of a wiki page is easier. People don't have to punch IRC > > through their firewalls. The coordination is the key for bugweeks. > IRC is much more effective for real discussion than registering in a wiki > and getting notification e-mails about changes by others, IMHO. > Mirek Totally agreed. How the hell are you meant to have a meaningful conversation by reloading HTML pages? IRC or IM is so much better for this. And since it's one-to-many instead of one-to-a-few then IRC is perfect. -- Get Firefox - Popup blocking, tabbed browsing and great security: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=9&t=1 From a.t.meinen at chello.nl Sat Sep 25 14:29:22 2004 From: a.t.meinen at chello.nl (Tino Meinen) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:29:22 +0200 Subject: hald daemon taking 97% of CPU time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096122563.20754.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Op za, 25-09-2004 te 12:51 +0300, schreef rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa: > Every thing seems to be ok except hald daemon. This daemon is taking 85% to 98% of CPU time. What could be the reason? How to fix this? Upgrading to the newer version (found in rawhide) solved the problem for me. Tino From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat Sep 25 14:34:05 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:34:05 +0200 Subject: FC2, somebody please try these SGI Open Inventor demos Message-ID: <20040925163405.5438f0aa.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Hi everyone who runs Fedora Core 2! Please visit http://download.fedora.us/pending/fedora/2/i386/RPMS.stable/ and download and install the following packages (or add the directory to your /etc/yum.conf file). They are signed with the fedora.us key. Inventor Inventor-demos Inventor-data InventorXt There may be dependencies on Fedora Core 2, such as the "openmotif" package, which you may need to install, too. When done, please run /usr/lib/Inventor/qmorf.RUNME or the other demo programs in the /usr/lib/Inventor folder, e.g. gview.RUNME (which should display a windmill with rotating sails). What do you get? 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Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key History has shown that the people who make history do not learn from it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From thomasz at hostmaster.org Sat Sep 25 14:52:26 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:52:26 +0200 Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: <20040924232910.94827.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040924232910.94827.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096123946.4206.19.camel@hostmaster.org> On Fre, 2004-09-24 at 16:29 -0700, Steve G wrote: > Is there a prioritized "most wanted list" or some means of coordinating what > people work on? I just don't want to spend time on something that someone else is > already patching. I back this request, especially regarding a democratic process for assigning the priority. Take a look at http://bugzilla.mozilla.org and their voting system, this way they get information about the most frequently hit bugs. Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key UNIX is user-friendly ... it's just selective about who it's friends are -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Williams) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:23:15 -0600 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <1096124812.4206.23.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <1096067652.17995.24.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040924234051.GI7464@redhat.com> <1096122457.4206.8.camel@hostmaster.org> <1096124812.4206.23.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <1096125795.11278.2.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 09:06, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > On Sam, 2004-09-25 at 16:27 +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > > Must have been a problem with one of my USB ports, using another port it > > now created the device node, but as expected not regarding console.perms > > Even worse it resets the ownership of /dev/ttyUSB* each time I press the > hotsync button. Not certain if this is really a udev problem though - I have the same issue of perms getting reset after every hotsync on FC2. Whatever is the cause of the problem is common to both FC2 and FC3T2. Hopefully that will help someone narrow this down a bit... Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom From rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa Sat Sep 25 15:26:56 2004 From: rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa (rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:26:56 +0300 Subject: hald daemon taking 97% of CPU time Message-ID: Tom, Thanks for reply. I don't have any USB devices connected to my Laptop. I have PCMCIA card in my laptop. However removing PCMCIA card and rebooting did not help. Regards, Rajesh Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-j/Rk8bVs1kZ2huvTDuWa" --=-j/Rk8bVs1kZ2huvTDuWa Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rajesh, I have been experiencing propably related behaviour with hal daemon: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3325 Could you try to disconnect all USB devices, especially card readers? Tom --=20 T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key History has shown that the people who make history do not learn from it. --=-j/Rk8bVs1kZ2huvTDuWa-- -------------- next part -------------- -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa Sat Sep 25 15:50:47 2004 From: rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa (rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:50:47 +0300 Subject: hald daemon taking 97% of CPU time Message-ID: Tino, Thanks for reply. Can you give me a link for rawhide. I tried several links including "http://ftp.lug.ro/redhat/rawhide/i386/Fedora/RPMS/" but did not get newer rpm for "hal". regards, Rajesh ----- Original Message ----- From: Tino Meinen Date: Saturday, September 25, 2004 5:29 pm Subject: Re: hald daemon taking 97% of CPU time > Op za, 25-09-2004 te 12:51 +0300, schreef rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa: > > > Every thing seems to be ok except hald daemon. This daemon is > taking 85% to 98% of CPU time. What could be the reason? How to > fix this? > Upgrading to the newer version (found in rawhide) solved the > problem for me. > > Tino > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Sat Sep 25 15:06:32 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: <3d86007804092507288a35095@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040925150632.46332.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> >Totally agreed. How the hell are you meant to have a meaningful >conversation by reloading HTML pages? I normally don't need to chat with anyone while programming. You get the bug, fix it, attach the patch to bugzilla, tell someone you're done, & move on to the next. For some bugs, you may need more details than the bug report has, like exactly how to reproduce it and if it only occurs with certain hardware. I think some people are missing one of the points I raised in my first e-mail or maybe just not responded. About 10 of the bugs on 123268 are mine. They all have patches attached. How do you decern what really needs attention from something that has a patch and needs it to be applied? Each of these bugs are either untouched, reproducable, patch submitted, patch applied but only in cvs, or released but needs testing. There's not an easy way to see where the bug is in the flow from a status page. What bugs need testing? How many platforms to verify the fix? How many tester reports to conclude it really is fixed? >IRC or IM is so much better for this. And since it's one-to-many >instead of one-to-a-few then IRC is perfect. Maybe so for some bugs...I can see it being useful in some cases, but not all. Not trying to be a stick in the mud. I plan to help with bug week. I just want to flesh out some details so its more likely to be successful. -Steve Grubb _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From a.t.meinen at chello.nl Sat Sep 25 16:21:52 2004 From: a.t.meinen at chello.nl (Tino Meinen) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:21:52 +0200 Subject: hald daemon taking 97% of CPU time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096129312.7839.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Op za, 25-09-2004 te 18:50 +0300, schreef rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa: > Tino, > Thanks for reply. > Can you give me a link for rawhide. I tried several links including "http://ftp.lug.ro/redhat/rawhide/i386/Fedora/RPMS/" but did not get newer rpm for "hal". you can find a fedora rawhide repository at: download.fedora.redhat.com go to the directory: /pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS I have hal-0.2.98.cvs20040923-1.i386.rpm installed You can check your installed version with: rpm -q hal I used up2date to upgrade to the latest version though. It uses yum to do the updates and fedora rawhide is already filled in as a default. good luck Tino From maxer1 at xmission.com Sat Sep 25 17:53:15 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (maxer1) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:53:15 -0600 Subject: FC3 T2 alsactl store issues unresolved In-Reply-To: <20040925125438.348034b0.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> <20040925125438.348034b0.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <4155B08B.4030405@xmission.com> Michael Schwendt wrote: >On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:37:31 -0600, maxer1 wrote: > > > >>Latest dev after FC3T2 upgrade. >> >>Here is what I have in modprobe.conf. This hasn't changed to my >>knowledge in over the last several iterations of Fedora: >> >>alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 >>install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && >>/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : >>remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; >>/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1 >>alias snd-card-1 snd-intel8x0 >>install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && >>/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : >>remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; >>/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 >> >>I can get the sound to work after I go to either gnome-volume-control >>(unmute) or do a re-detect in system-config-soundcard after boot. >> >>Any ideas why alsactl store doesn't appear to be working at all? >> >>Is this a problem in initscripts? >> >> > >Can you 'alsactl store' and 'alsactl restore' the mixer settings >manually? When was /etc/asound.state last written to on your >machine? What audio applications do you try? > > Last time asound.state was written to was on the 20th. If I attempt alsactl store, of course asound.state is immediately written to. Upon reboot doing the restore does restore the previous settings. Apparently we're back to the mode of storing and restoring to keep the settings? Now in FC3T1 alsa remembered the settings without having to do alsactl restore etc. RaXeT From akabi at speakeasy.net Sat Sep 25 17:53:41 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sep 25, 2004 at 21:35, N.A. in a soothing rage wrote: >Hi all, > >I can't find the kernel-source package on the FC3T2 CDs or the >download web site? There is a kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm. I installed >it but there is nothing at /usr/src? Mor will there be one for the forseeable future. Numerous threads in fedora-devel detail this. There is no need to ship the same thing twice. The src.rpm contains all you need. An 'rpm -qlp' should list the kernel source tarbol, the patches in the src.rpm and the .spec file. 'man rpm' and 'man rpmbuild' should give you all the pointers you need. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Q: What's tiny and yellow and very, very, dangerous? A: A canary with the super-user password. 13:49:36 up 89 days, 7:04, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From akabi at speakeasy.net Sat Sep 25 17:56:44 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2, somebody please try these SGI Open Inventor demos In-Reply-To: <20040925163405.5438f0aa.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <20040925163405.5438f0aa.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: On Sep 25, 2004 at 16:34, Michael Schwendt in a soothing rage wrote: [...] >What do you get? Do the demos seem to work flawlessly? They worked for me. CPU usage peaked at 100% for qmorf. Had to stop and concentrate on installing FC3t2. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. [Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.] 13:54:53 up 89 days, 7:09, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From maxer1 at xmission.com Sat Sep 25 18:02:07 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (maxer1) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:02:07 -0600 Subject: FC3 T2 alsactl store issues unresolved In-Reply-To: <20040925125438.348034b0.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> <20040925125438.348034b0.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <4155B29F.5000408@xmission.com> Michael Schwendt wrote: >Can you 'alsactl store' and 'alsactl restore' the mixer settings >manually? When was /etc/asound.state last written to on your >machine? What audio applications do you try? > > After doing an alsactl store and then placing alsactl restore in the rc.local and I don't have to manually restore from soundcard detect or volume-control after reboot. Works for me like it used to Fedora Cores before. :) Made comment in bug 133535 about this today. RaXeT From rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa Sat Sep 25 18:06:47 2004 From: rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa (rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:06:47 +0300 Subject: hald daemon taking 97% of CPU time Message-ID: Tino, Many thanks.... The problem is fixed after upgrading "hal" to latest version. Thanks once again. Regards, Rajesh ----- Original Message ----- From: Tino Meinen Date: Saturday, September 25, 2004 7:21 pm Subject: Re: hald daemon taking 97% of CPU time > Op za, 25-09-2004 te 18:50 +0300, schreef rajesh.padalia at qatar.net.qa: > > Tino, > > Thanks for reply. > > Can you give me a link for rawhide. I tried several links > including "http://ftp.lug.ro/redhat/rawhide/i386/Fedora/RPMS/" but > did not get newer rpm for "hal". > you can find a fedora rawhide repository at: > download.fedora.redhat.com > go to the directory: > /pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS > > I have hal-0.2.98.cvs20040923-1.i386.rpm installed > You can check your installed version with: > > rpm -q hal > > I used up2date to upgrade to the latest version though. It uses > yum to > do the updates and fedora rawhide is already filled in as a default. > > > good luck > Tino > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat Sep 25 18:13:13 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:13:13 +0200 Subject: FC3 T2 alsactl store issues unresolved In-Reply-To: <4155B08B.4030405@xmission.com> References: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> <20040925125438.348034b0.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <4155B08B.4030405@xmission.com> Message-ID: <20040925201313.16c3e949.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:53:15 -0600, maxer1 wrote: > >>Latest dev after FC3T2 upgrade. > >> > >>Here is what I have in modprobe.conf. This hasn't changed to my > >>knowledge in over the last several iterations of Fedora: > >> > >>alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 > >>install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && > >>/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > >>remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; > >>/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1 > >>alias snd-card-1 snd-intel8x0 > >>install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && > >>/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > >>remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; > >>/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 > >> > >>I can get the sound to work after I go to either gnome-volume-control > >>(unmute) or do a re-detect in system-config-soundcard after boot. > >> > >>Any ideas why alsactl store doesn't appear to be working at all? > >> > >>Is this a problem in initscripts? > >> > >> > > > >Can you 'alsactl store' and 'alsactl restore' the mixer settings > >manually? When was /etc/asound.state last written to on your > >machine? What audio applications do you try? > > > > > Last time asound.state was written to was on the 20th. If I attempt > alsactl store, of course > asound.state is immediately written to. Upon reboot doing the restore > does restore the > previous settings. Apparently we're back to the mode of storing and > restoring to keep the settings? > > Now in FC3T1 alsa remembered the settings without having to do alsactl > restore etc. No, it hasn't changed. Upon loading the module, the entry in /etc/modprobe.conf should run "alsactl restore" to load the mixer settings, and /etc/init.d/halt should save the mixer settings prior to reboot or shutdown. By looking at the time-stamp of /etc/asound.state, you should be able to tell, whether the mixer settings get saved before reboot (alternatively, delete the file or modify it, it's a text file). And directly after reboot, when looking at "lsmod" output, e.g. if your snd-emu10k1 module is not loaded already, "modprobe snd-emu10k1" should load it _and_ trigger the "alsactl restore" call. Well, that's the simple theory. Actually, when graphical desktops run audio mixers for ALSA or OSS to restore their own mixer settings, that influences the whole thing a lot. -- Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) - Linux 2.6.8-1.541 loadavg: 3.89 4.34 4.62 From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat Sep 25 19:25:10 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:25:10 +0200 Subject: FC3 T2 alsactl store issues unresolved In-Reply-To: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> References: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1096140306.3540.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 25/09/2004 ? 01:37, maxer1 a ?crit : > Latest dev after FC3T2 upgrade. > > [...] > Any ideas why alsactl store doesn't appear to be working at all? > "store" works :-) It's "restore" that doesn't work. > Is this a problem in initscripts? > Sorry for my _very_ poor English. I spent one day with this. Initscripts, is not the only problem. The issue is with udev/alsactl/alsa-lib. As with many devices, alsactl talk to the hardware only with a special file (which provide major and minor number). The modprobe.conf : install snd-ens1371 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-ens1371 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : "alsactl restore" is done _before_ udev create special files in /dev/snd/. udev is executed _after_ modprobe. At boot time, 'alsactl restore' "silently print" : alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found... alsactl is trying to open the device but failed : open("/dev/snd/controlC0", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/dev/aloadC0", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) So, the setting is not restored. I find two ways to solve this issue : - adapt initscript and modprobe.conf - patch alsa-lib to use /sys The first is simple, works, but not perfect. The second is "new" because we use a device without special file already in place. Seams there is something broken here :-) The first solution (not tested and i am very weak in shell programming) : --- rc.sysinit.orig 2004-09-25 20:20:09.060208486 +0200 +++ rc.sysinit 2004-09-25 20:24:48.494075002 +0200 @@ -204,6 +204,9 @@ for module in `/sbin/modprobe -c | awk '/^alias[[:space:]]+snd-card-[[:digit:]]+[[:space:]]/ { print $3 }'` $audio; do modprobe $module >/dev/null 2>&1 done +if [ "$module" = "" ] ; then + /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 +fi echo -n $" audio" At that point in rc.sysinit, /usr is not mounted ! and libasound is in /usr/lib (and some other piece of alsa stay in /usr/share/alsa). Perhaps the soundcards initialisation should be moved after the mount all other partitions. Note that the modules are "modprobed" two times ! With "/sbin/modprobe -c ..." and with $audio provided by kmodule. For modprobe.conf we can remove this useless line : install snd-XXXX /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-XXXX && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : That's all for the first solution. The second solution i try to make is a little more harder. If alsa-lib don't find the special file, alsa-lib create it "on the fly". Only root can do that. Only /dev is writable at hardware initialisation (if we don't touch rc.sysinit). This "quick and dirty" patch use /sys to find out the major and minor number. This information is in /sys/class/sound/controlCN/dev . See attachment. Be very careful, I am not an alsa hacker :-) Works here only (two sound cards). And now a word about how s-c-soundcard handle multi-cards. Why it touch/create /etc/asound.conf ? asound.conf is for alsa-lib, the end-user! He can add plugins, etc... There are nothing to do with the hardware detection and it is not the best way to identify a sound card. We should use modprobe.conf or udev (like scsi_id does, or like i do with my ide drives :-)). With udev, it's harder but possible. Please, don't touch /etc/asound.conf. The only benefit of asound.conf using by s-c-soundcard is to not unload/reload the modules (or reboot). And think fc2 users already use a custom asound.conf. btw, fc3 provide OSS emulation (for realplay, etc...) and OSS software ... don't use alsa-lib (asound.conf). There is a ticket in bugzilla : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133535 But how Fedora handle the sound is broken in many places and this can be summarize by "Sound settings not saved on shutdown". -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: quick_fix_udev.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 5863 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat Sep 25 19:59:20 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:59:20 +0200 Subject: FC3 T2 alsactl store issues unresolved In-Reply-To: <1096140306.3540.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> <1096140306.3540.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096142356.3540.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 25/09/2004 ? 21:25, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > Works here > only (two sound cards). Not tested with SELinux enabled. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From rogerlinux at ij.net Sat Sep 25 20:02:40 2004 From: rogerlinux at ij.net (Roger Olson) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:02:40 -0400 Subject: Post-Install Add/Remove Programs Fails In-Reply-To: <1096142211.21620.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096142211.21620.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4155CEE0.1030701@ij.net> Yes, Two clean installs with exactly the same result. Depending on the update requested, disc 1 or 2 were requested. Both fail. The CDs also passed the media check before install. When I insert the CD as requested, the CD mounts and the desktop Icon can access the CD, but up2date still doesn't know it's there. Roger... Leon Stringer wrote: >Hi, > >I've just installed FC3t2. I now want to install some additional >packages. So I've opened the Add/Remove Programs window, selected my new >packages and clicked Update. I then got a message telling me to insert >Disc 1 which I've done and I then get the error "Unable to access >disk.". > >(The CD auto mounts, is readable and I did a media check before >installation, it was fine). > >Has anyone encountered this? > >There seems to be some Bugzilla issues for FC2 test releases but not >FC3. > >Leon... > > > > From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sat Sep 25 20:40:48 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:40:48 +0100 Subject: Post-Install Add/Remove Programs Fails In-Reply-To: <4155CEE0.1030701@ij.net> References: <1096142211.21620.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4155CEE0.1030701@ij.net> Message-ID: <1096144848.21620.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thanks for your reply Roger. I've added this as Bug #133657. On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 16:02 -0400, Roger Olson wrote: > Yes, > > Two clean installs with exactly the same result. > Depending on the update requested, disc 1 or 2 were requested. Both fail. > The CDs also passed the media check before install. > When I insert the CD as requested, the CD mounts and the desktop Icon can > access the CD, but up2date still doesn't know it's there. > > Roger... > > Leon Stringer wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I've just installed FC3t2. I now want to install some additional > >packages. So I've opened the Add/Remove Programs window, selected my new > >packages and clicked Update. I then got a message telling me to insert > >Disc 1 which I've done and I then get the error "Unable to access > >disk.". > > > >(The CD auto mounts, is readable and I did a media check before > >installation, it was fine). > > > >Has anyone encountered this? > > > >There seems to be some Bugzilla issues for FC2 test releases but not > >FC3. > > > >Leon... > > > > > > > > > > From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Sep 25 21:36:48 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:36:48 -0400 Subject: Post-Install Add/Remove Programs Fails In-Reply-To: <1096142211.21620.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096142211.21620.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa7910409251436792c3131@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:56:50 +0100, Leon Stringer wrote: > Has anyone encountered this? > > There seems to be some Bugzilla issues for FC2 test releases but not > FC3. There is already a newer version of s-c-packages avaible in the fedora core development tree. As a rule, before filing a bug report against a component in a test release, first look to see if a newer version is available in the development tree which might fix this problem. Please install system-config-packages-1.2.17-1 and retest. Note thate system-config-packages-1.2.17-1 has a packaging bug and you must install dbus-python package first and have the haldaemon service running or it will segfault. 1.2.17 is the first version to use hal for cd device discovery so what you are seeing in 1.2.16 might not apply any longer considering the change to 1.2.17. So retest the new version and update the bugreport accordingly. -jef From alan at redhat.com Sat Sep 25 23:50:48 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:50:48 -0400 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <1096125795.11278.2.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1096067652.17995.24.camel@hostmaster.org> <20040924234051.GI7464@redhat.com> <1096122457.4206.8.camel@hostmaster.org> <1096124812.4206.23.camel@hostmaster.org> <1096125795.11278.2.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040925235048.GL25483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 09:23:15AM -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > > > Even worse it resets the ownership of /dev/ttyUSB* each time I press the > > hotsync button. > > Not certain if this is really a udev problem though - I have the same > issue of perms getting reset after every hotsync on FC2. Whatever is the Its udev. Each hotsync the PDA appears on the USB bus, causes udev to recreate the devices, syncs and goes away making them vanish. From vR at movingparts.net Sun Sep 26 00:46:53 2004 From: vR at movingparts.net (Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:46:53 -0400 Subject: acpi or apm suspend _and_resume_? Message-ID: <1096159613.3507.24.camel@localhost> I'll take either. =:) for some odd reason, APM suspending doesn't work in fc3t2, though it did work wonderfully in fc2. well, rather, I should say that APM resuming doesn't work at all. the laptop suspends fine, but refuses to resume. I have an IBM A31 Thinkpad, which, I believe, does not play nicely with linux ACPI. at least, I've never gotten it to--as far as suspending goes. I'd LOVE to hear from someone on the list that I'm mistaken, please!! =:) I pulled down a vanilla 2.6.8.1 tree and patched it with software- suspend-2.0.0.105-for-2.6.8.1 in hopes that at least that would work. And no luck there. I don't know why it doesn't work, but it doesn't. APM suspend DOES work with a vanilla 2.6.8.1 kernel, though. However, with the vanilla kernel, I cannot sync my Clie. udev issues, I believe. I've filed a bug for the APM suspend/resume problem at http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133671. So, my questions are: - is there a newer kernel available than 2.6.8-1.541 that would fix my suspend and udev problems? - is there something I can do to get my vanilla kernel to play nicely with udev so that at least I can sync my Clie? - what are other linux-laptop-bearing people (Alan?) doing to suspend their laptops? thanks!! -- ,-----------------------------------------------------------------// | Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26 ` | All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker | in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is | the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too. , | bash$ :(){ :|:&};: `----------------------// From javaman67 at acd.net Sun Sep 26 02:53:11 2004 From: javaman67 at acd.net (Brian Craft) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 22:53:11 -0400 Subject: Conexant HSF laptop modem support Message-ID: <41562F17.4010006@acd.net> Does anyone have any helpful hints on Conexant HSF laptop modem support for Fedora Core 3 Test 2 ? Below is the results of a modem query: ============================================================= = RESULT OF MODEM QUERY = ============================================================= MODEM #1: PCI CONFIGURATION INFORMATION READ: Vendor Id : 14F1 Device Id : 2F00 Revision Id : 1 Sub Vendor Id : 14F1 Sub Device Id : 2003 DEDUCED INFORMATION: Vendor Name : CONEXANT Device Name : HSFi Data/Fax Modem Type : HSF -- Brian Craft Linux Counter id: 97873 Linux......the OS of Choice! From jgeorgeson at lopht.net Sun Sep 26 03:06:35 2004 From: jgeorgeson at lopht.net (Justin Georgeson) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 22:06:35 -0500 Subject: i810 rehash and dell inspiron 2600 Message-ID: <4156323B.20206@lopht.net> As an interesting note, Dell Inspiron 2600 laptops must stay at BIOS revision A08 or lower or this chipset will not work at all in any Linux distribution. What are the differences between the xorg i810 driver (is the upstream fixed one in the FC3 xorg 6.8.0 packages?) and the Intel one? The latest version from Intel was released in June of this year and the README tells how to configure dual-head support. Has anyone installed it (I haven't been able to build it so far on FC3T2 or Suse 9.1)? -- ; Justin Georgeson ; "Free the mallocs, delete the news" ; http://www.openoffice.org ; http://www.boycott-riaa.com ; http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=9559016 From cylon at streamyx.com Sun Sep 26 03:32:35 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:32:35 +0800 Subject: acpi or apm suspend _and_resume_? In-Reply-To: <1096159613.3507.24.camel@localhost> References: <1096159613.3507.24.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <41563853.4040402@streamyx.com> Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: >I pulled down a vanilla 2.6.8.1 tree and patched it with software- >suspend-2.0.0.105-for-2.6.8.1 in hopes that at least that would work. >And no luck there. I don't know why it doesn't work, but it doesn't. >APM suspend DOES work with a vanilla 2.6.8.1 kernel, though. However, >with the vanilla kernel, I cannot sync my Clie. udev issues, I believe. > > How do you guys sync your clie actually...i've never got it to work...had to install windows just for this purpose. From mike at ascendency.net Sun Sep 26 04:45:32 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:45:32 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 Hangs at enabling swap space Message-ID: <200409260447.i8Q4lMi75737@fat_man.ascendency.net> I just upgrade from FC2 to FC3T2 and my system just hangs at enabling swap space. Any ideas what to do? ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From vR at movingparts.net Sun Sep 26 05:36:14 2004 From: vR at movingparts.net (Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 01:36:14 -0400 Subject: acpi or apm suspend _and_resume_? In-Reply-To: <41563853.4040402@streamyx.com> References: <1096159613.3507.24.camel@localhost> <41563853.4040402@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <1096176974.3984.8.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 11:32 +0800, Mazli Alias wrote: > Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: > > >I pulled down a vanilla 2.6.8.1 tree and patched it with software- > >suspend-2.0.0.105-for-2.6.8.1 in hopes that at least that would work. > >And no luck there. I don't know why it doesn't work, but it doesn't. > >APM suspend DOES work with a vanilla 2.6.8.1 kernel, though. However, > >with the vanilla kernel, I cannot sync my Clie. udev issues, I believe. > > > > > How do you guys sync your clie actually...i've never got it to > work...had to install windows just for this purpose. > > well, with fc2, you have to have support for usb-serial and visor built into your kernel, and then simply modprobe visor. after that, connect your cradle/usb cable, etc., press the hotsync button, and then do "PILOTPORT=/dev/ttyUSB1 pilot-xfer -l". if all goes well, you should see a list of databases, etc. installed on your Clie. Now, having said that, when I do this with my self-compiled 2.6.8.1 vanilla kernel, pilot-xfer is able to connect to my clie and list everything. But gnome-pilot doesn't get connected--in fact, it never sees the fact that the clie is present on /dev/ttyUSB1. This doesn't make sense to me because gnome-pilot has to use the pilot-link libraries, the same way that pilot-xfer does. Anyway, I digress.... -- ,-----------------------------------------------------------------// | Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26 ` | All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker | in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is | the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too. , | bash$ :(){ :|:&};: `----------------------// From mike at ascendency.net Sun Sep 26 05:45:12 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:45:12 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 Hangs at enabling swap space Message-ID: <200409260547.i8Q5l1i76044@fat_man.ascendency.net> Mike Loiterman wrote: > I just upgrade from FC2 to FC3T2 and my system just hangs at > enabling swap space. Any ideas what to do? Its actually hanging on bring up my network interface. How can I tell it not to bring it up on startup? ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From saitos at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 08:01:16 2004 From: saitos at gmail.com (SAITO Toshiyuki) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:01:16 +0900 Subject: KWord doesn't accept Japanese Message-ID: <9fa414e04092601015f0e94d8@mail.gmail.com> Updated from test 2 to the latest Development, I can't input Japanese on KWord and Opera 7.60 Preview1. I've noticed this since last month, but at that time my Fedora was updated from FC2 to rawhide via yum. So something by my side is wrong. Some user of another distro told me that there is a problem at qt-x11-immodule-bc-qt3.3.3.patch Mandrake removed that patch from their qt of cooker, he said. Fedora and SuSE use this patch, which isn't so good. -- SAITO Toshiyuki saitos at gmail.com From cylon at streamyx.com Sun Sep 26 08:02:48 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 16:02:48 +0800 Subject: acpi or apm suspend _and_resume_? In-Reply-To: <1096176974.3984.8.camel@localhost> References: <1096159613.3507.24.camel@localhost> <41563853.4040402@streamyx.com> <1096176974.3984.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <415677A8.2040507@streamyx.com> well, with fc2, you have to have support for usb-serial and visor built >into your kernel, and then simply modprobe visor. after that, connect >your cradle/usb cable, etc., press the hotsync button, and then do >"PILOTPORT=/dev/ttyUSB1 pilot-xfer -l". if all goes well, you should >see a list of databases, etc. installed on your Clie. > > >Now, having said that, when I do this with my self-compiled 2.6.8.1 >vanilla kernel, pilot-xfer is able to connect to my clie and list >everything. But gnome-pilot doesn't get connected--in fact, it never >sees the fact that the clie is present on /dev/ttyUSB1. This doesn't >make sense to me because gnome-pilot has to use the pilot-link >libraries, the same way that pilot-xfer does. Anyway, I digress.... > > > Thanks...i just want to try with stock kernel first..looks like have to wait until they've settled with the udev problem first. From wtogami at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 10:17:29 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:17:29 -1000 Subject: KWord doesn't accept Japanese In-Reply-To: <9fa414e04092601015f0e94d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <9fa414e04092601015f0e94d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41569739.2020303@redhat.com> SAITO Toshiyuki wrote: > Updated from test 2 to the latest Development, I can't input Japanese > on KWord and Opera 7.60 Preview1. > I've noticed this since last month, but at that time my Fedora was > updated from FC2 to rawhide via yum. So something by my side is wrong. > > Some user of another distro told me that there is a problem at > qt-x11-immodule-bc-qt3.3.3.patch > > Mandrake removed that patch from their qt of cooker, he said. > Fedora and SuSE use this patch, which isn't so good. > Thanks for your report. Are you using IIIMF input with ???LE or ?? ?LE , or XIM with kinput2, or any other XIM software? I am guessing it was IIIMF? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From saitos at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 10:55:01 2004 From: saitos at gmail.com (SAITO Toshiyuki) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:55:01 +0900 Subject: KWord doesn't accept Japanese In-Reply-To: <41569739.2020303@redhat.com> References: <9fa414e04092601015f0e94d8@mail.gmail.com> <41569739.2020303@redhat.com> Message-ID: <9fa414e04092603557544f5bc@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:17:29 -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > > > SAITO Toshiyuki wrote: > > Updated from test 2 to the latest Development, I can't input Japanese > > on KWord and Opera 7.60 Preview1. > > I've noticed this since last month, but at that time my Fedora was > > updated from FC2 to rawhide via yum. So something by my side is wrong. > > > > Some user of another distro told me that there is a problem at > > qt-x11-immodule-bc-qt3.3.3.patch > > > > Mandrake removed that patch from their qt of cooker, he said. > > Fedora and SuSE use this patch, which isn't so good. > > > > Thanks for your report. Are you using IIIMF input with ???LE or ?? > ?LE , or XIM with kinput2, or any other XIM software? I am guessing it > was IIIMF? Default one. Presumably iiimf, for I don't touch im-switch this time. After sending the previous message, I found the series of dialouges. One of them is http://freedesktop.org/pipermail/immodule-qt/2004-September/000437.html and look for that thread and the others concern. -- SAITO Toshiyuki saitos at gmail.com From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sun Sep 26 11:23:54 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:23:54 +0100 Subject: Post-Install Add/Remove Programs Fails In-Reply-To: <604aa7910409251436792c3131@mail.gmail.com> References: <1096142211.21620.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910409251436792c3131@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096197835.3656.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thanks Jeff, I wasn't aware of the development tree but will test against this in future. For the record, I've updated system-config-packages and get the same problem with 1.2.17. Leon... On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 17:36 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > There is already a newer version of s-c-packages avaible in the fedora > core development tree. As a rule, before filing a bug report against a > component in a test release, first look to see if a newer version is > available in the development tree which might fix this problem. > Please install system-config-packages-1.2.17-1 and retest. > > Note thate system-config-packages-1.2.17-1 has a packaging bug and > you must install > dbus-python package first and have the haldaemon service running or it > will segfault. > 1.2.17 is the first version to use hal for cd device discovery so what > you are seeing in 1.2.16 > might not apply any longer considering the change to 1.2.17. So > retest the new version and update the bugreport accordingly. > > -jef > > From mike at netlyncs.com Sun Sep 26 12:12:22 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 07:12:22 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 Hangs at enabling swap space In-Reply-To: <200409260547.i8Q5l1i76044@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409260547.i8Q5l1i76044@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <1096200742.955.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 00:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > Mike Loiterman wrote: > > I just upgrade from FC2 to FC3T2 and my system just hangs at > > enabling swap space. Any ideas what to do? > > Its actually hanging on bring up my network interface. How can I tell it > not to bring it up on startup? I am wondering if it's the network or the new NetworkManager that is causing it? You can try disabling both or one at a time to see if you find the culprit. chkconfig network off or chkconfig NetworkManager off See if that helps, -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From davidjs at netspace.net.au Sun Sep 26 12:16:32 2004 From: davidjs at netspace.net.au (david) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:16:32 +1000 Subject: no mouse to install with Message-ID: <1096200992.2885.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi all am installing fc3t2 on my amd64 laptop compaq pesario r3000 i tested the disks (fc3t2) and they were ok did a system info just incase mr compaq changed something and the mouse is listed as ps/2 two button, which should be good enough but anaconda says that there just isnt any such thing its there and working on another os so theres nothing wrong with the hardware any ideas? thanks david From pantz at lqt.ca Sun Sep 26 14:08:58 2004 From: pantz at lqt.ca (Paul Pianta) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:08:58 -0400 Subject: Hostname won't stick In-Reply-To: <20040923143107.39773.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040923143107.39773.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4156CD7A.7020505@lqt.ca> Michael Seney wrote: >Anyone ever have a problem with setting your hostname. >Here is the deal, I dual boot w/ Windows XP which is >ofcourse the first partition NTFS. Then there is a >Fat32 Middle Partition and then my ext3 / a swap and >/home which is ext3. For some reason it autonames my >hostname upon installation gecko? I think Windows uses >that? I wanted to make it something different and edit >the /etc/hosts and made the 127.0.0.1 newhostname >localhost. Used #hostname newhostname. Restarted X >server and it took until a reboot? Any ideas why it >wants to be gecko and doesn't like any other hostnames >I want to specify. * I just put FC3T2 on this system >and previously ran Debian Sarge with the hostname I >liked without a problem. > > Yeah setting hostname on a fedora box can be a bit of a run-around. There are 3 things that I do to get it right ... 1. Add it to your /etc/hosts 2. Run the command 'hostname newhostname' 3. Modify the HOSTNAME parameter in '/etc/sysconfig/network' hth pantz > > >_______________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! >http://vote.yahoo.com > > > > -- Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes ... That way when you do criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes! From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Sun Sep 26 15:24:17 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 18:24:17 +0300 Subject: media error? installing from hdd Message-ID: <1096212257.3062.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Tried installing fc3t2 from hdd (4 isos, md5's are correct, checked then twice) On about 1/3 from install, it gave an error on installing gnome-applets, suggesting media error or lack of space (installed everything, had a 10g partitions just formatted by it) Any suggestions on what could be wrong? The same system is running fc2 now. Thanks -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From xerces8 at butn.net Sun Sep 26 15:25:37 2004 From: xerces8 at butn.net (xerces8) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:25:37 +0200 Subject: via sata raid Message-ID: Markku Kolkka wrote : > Jeff Williams kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika maanantai, 20. syyskuuta 2004 23:17): > > I am using the via 8237 sata chipset and I have raid 0 setup > > on it. > > Linux SATA RAID FAQ: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html Reading question 8 ... Yep, so it is supported or not ? Why not ? Is DM not shipped with FC3 ? Why not ? People have setups like that ( I have a Promise FastTrack ) and expect it to work in linux. Regards, xerces8 From talbotscott at cox.net Sun Sep 26 15:38:37 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:38:37 -0700 Subject: media error? installing from hdd In-Reply-To: <1096212257.3062.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096212257.3062.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1096213117.19890.6.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 18:24 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Tried installing fc3t2 from hdd (4 isos, md5's are correct, checked then > twice) > > On about 1/3 from install, it gave an error on installing gnome-applets, > suggesting media error or lack of space (installed everything, had a 10g > partitions just formatted by it) > > Any suggestions on what could be wrong? The same system is running fc2 > now. > > Thanks > -- > Marius Andreiana > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > http://www.galuna.ro > Marius: It is possible (probable!) that some error has occurred while writing the CD that is causing the problem. You could try to copy the offending files to see if they truly exist (this has happened to me and when I drag an icon from the CD to the Desktop, I get an error and find that the file length = 0 Bytes). One way around this, if you haven't erased the .iso files is to put them somewhere close to the main directory of a partition, and do a Hard disk install ("linux askmethod" at the boot prompt). Otherwise I have had good luck sometimes by burning CD at very low speed. Possibly I could buy better media? Scott From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun Sep 26 15:44:19 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:44:19 +0200 Subject: media error? installing from hdd In-Reply-To: <1096213117.19890.6.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1096212257.3062.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1096213117.19890.6.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <1096213459.2691.36.camel@kyrre> try "linux mediacheck" - it will prompt you to test your media. Whether it is cd's, NFS, HD etc. s?n, 26.09.2004 kl. 17.38 skrev Scott Talbot: > On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 18:24 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > Tried installing fc3t2 from hdd (4 isos, md5's are correct, checked then > > twice) > > > > On about 1/3 from install, it gave an error on installing gnome-applets, > > suggesting media error or lack of space (installed everything, had a 10g > > partitions just formatted by it) > > > > Any suggestions on what could be wrong? The same system is running fc2 > > now. > > > > Thanks > > -- > > Marius Andreiana > > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > > http://www.galuna.ro > > > Marius: > It is possible (probable!) that some error has occurred while writing > the CD that is causing the problem. You could try to copy the offending > files to see if they truly exist (this has happened to me and when I > drag an icon from the CD to the Desktop, I get an error and find that > the file length = 0 Bytes). > One way around this, if you haven't erased the .iso files is to put > them somewhere close to the main directory of a partition, and do a Hard > disk install ("linux askmethod" at the boot prompt). Otherwise I have > had good luck sometimes by burning CD at very low speed. Possibly I > could buy better media? > > Scott > From xerces8 at butn.net Sun Sep 26 15:53:35 2004 From: xerces8 at butn.net (xerces8) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:53:35 +0200 Subject: GRUB settings not remebered in install Message-ID: Hi! In FC2t2 when you back in GUI install and then come again to the Boot Loader screen, the settings one made before are not remembered, but the default appears always. Is that on purpose ? Other settings are remembered, like the keyboard layout, system languages , install type etc. ) Regards, xerces8 From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 16:02:27 2004 From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:02:27 +0300 Subject: FC3T2 on qemu, any success ? Message-ID: <1403218a0409260902405c45e0@mail.gmail.com> I tried to install it on qemu (virtual machine, like VMWare), but anaconda is crashing everytime before starting the GUI. Any success out there ? -- Mohamed Eldesoky www.eldesoky.net RHCE From linxt at comcast.net Sun Sep 26 16:03:40 2004 From: linxt at comcast.net (Tom Taylor) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:03:40 -0700 Subject: Problem editing user/group settings Message-ID: <200409260903.40642.linxt@comcast.net> Tonight I tried to go into system-config-users to add groups to my user account I got the message: The user database cannot be read. This problem is most likely caused by a mismatch in /etc/password and /etc/shadow. My question is WHY and how do I CORRECT it? FC3t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.541smp KDE3.3 I want to do this so I can add groups to my user account so I can add devices to my user desktop. TIA, Tom -- Tom Taylor registered linux user #263467 From alan at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 16:06:33 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:06:33 -0400 Subject: via sata raid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040926160633.GL18568@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 05:25:37PM +0200, xerces8 wrote: > Reading question 8 ... > > Yep, so it is supported or not ? > Why not ? Generally "because the vendor won't tell us their format" > Is DM not shipped with FC3 ? Device mapper is in FC2 and FC3 From xerces8 at butn.net Sun Sep 26 16:08:48 2004 From: xerces8 at butn.net (xerces8) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 18:08:48 +0200 Subject: Arrow for NEXT in arabic should be pointing to left ? Message-ID: Hi! In GUI install of FC2t2 I choose the arabic language, just for fun. As arabic script is right-to-left, all the GUI is also turned around left-right. Except the arrow on the NEXT/PREV buttons are still "western". On the "Next" button the arrow is pointing to the right, whil it would be more consistent with the rest of the GUI, if it pointed to left. I'm no expert, so if this is just OK, ignore this message. Regards, xerces8 From xerces8 at butn.net Sun Sep 26 16:12:28 2004 From: xerces8 at butn.net (xerces8) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 18:12:28 +0200 Subject: via sata raid In-Reply-To: <20040926160633.GL18568@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040926160633.GL18568@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: From: Alan Cox > On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 05:25:37PM +0200, xerces8 wrote: > > Reading question 8 > ... > > > > Yep, so it is supported or not ? > > Why not ? > > Generally "because the vendor won't tell us their format" >From the DM readme : The following ATARAID types are supported: Highpoint HPT37X Highpoint HPT45X Intel Software RAID Promise FastTrack Silicon Image Medley > > Is DM not shipped with FC3 ? > > Device mapper is in FC2 and FC3 So why aren't those RAIDs detected in disk druid during install ? No interest ? Code not mature yet ( hey, this is beta anyway ;-) ) ? Something else ? From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun Sep 26 16:23:44 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: no mouse to install with In-Reply-To: <1096200992.2885.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096200992.2885.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096215824.2691.58.camel@kyrre> Have you tried an external ps/2 mouse - how does that work? 32-bit installer images? s?n, 26.09.2004 kl. 14.16 skrev david: > hi all > am installing fc3t2 on my amd64 laptop compaq pesario r3000 > i tested the disks (fc3t2) and they were ok > did a system info just incase mr compaq changed something and the mouse > is listed as ps/2 two button, which should be good enough but anaconda > says that there just isnt any such thing > its there and working on another os so theres nothing wrong with the > hardware > any ideas? > thanks > david > From alan at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 16:43:12 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:43:12 -0400 Subject: via sata raid In-Reply-To: References: <20040926160633.GL18568@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040926164312.GB12131@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 06:12:28PM +0200, xerces8 wrote: > >From the DM readme : > The following ATARAID types are supported: Oh sorry you mean "dmraid" not "device mapper". > > Device mapper is in FC2 and FC3 > > So why aren't those RAIDs detected in disk druid during install ? Because dmraid isn't yet being used. Device mapper is the generic layer for doing logical volumes, raid etc. dmraid is a tool which can generate device mapper descriptions for various ide softraid formats From janina at rednote.net Sun Sep 26 17:45:32 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:45:32 -0400 Subject: Yum --exclude broken? Message-ID: <20040926174532.GA381@rednote.net> I'm suddenly unable to update/upgrade with yum. Seems mozilla has been marked at version 37 in one of the repos. So, no problem, I say to mmyself, and issue: yum --exclude epiphany update but to no avail. So, is it yum, or something I'm doing wrong? Anyone else get anything similar? With yum-2.1.3-1 Reading repository metadata in from local files core : ################################################## 2593/2593 core : ################################################## 2593/2593 dag : ################################################## 2743/2743 freshrpms : ################################################## 416/416 updates : ################################################## 603/603 Excluding Packages Finished Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux 2 - x86_64 - core Excluding Packages from Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux 2 - x86_64 - freshrpms Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux 2 - x86_64 - updates Resolving Dependencies Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany From cra at WPI.EDU Sun Sep 26 17:56:56 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:56:56 -0400 Subject: Problem editing user/group settings In-Reply-To: <200409260903.40642.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200409260903.40642.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040926175656.GC24689@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 09:03:40AM -0700, Tom Taylor wrote: > The user database cannot be read. This problem is most likely caused by a > mismatch in /etc/password and /etc/shadow. > My question is WHY and how do I CORRECT it? pwconv grpconv > I want to do this so I can add groups to my user account so I can add devices > to my user desktop. It shouldn't be necessary to do that. What devices are you trying to access? Everything should just work as a normal user without editing groups. From mike at ascendency.net Sun Sep 26 18:19:11 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:19:11 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 Hangs at enabling swap space In-Reply-To: <1096180334.4156626e870a4@mail.iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <200409261821.i8QIL1i80745@fat_man.ascendency.net> ncoghlan at iinet.net.au wrote: > Quoting Mike Loiterman : > >> Mike Loiterman wrote: >>> I just upgrade from FC2 to FC3T2 and my system just hangs at >>> enabling swap space. Any ideas what to do? >> >> Its actually hanging on bring up my network interface. How can I >> tell it not to bring it up on startup? > > Interactive startup should let you get into Fedora initially. > > Then run system-config-network, edit the device which appears to be > causing the problem, and uncheck 'Start this device when computer > starts'. > > I do it that way anyway, since I have a laptop with both wireless and > ethernet. Having one or the other fail to come up (which is a common > situation) seriously slows down boot time. > > Cheers, > Nick. I got it to work the "harder" way: boot with the resue CD, change /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcg-eth0 to ONBOOT=no. Thanks for the tip, though. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From m_epling at comcast.net Sun Sep 26 18:23:02 2004 From: m_epling at comcast.net (AMAZING POWERS OF OBSERVATION) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:23:02 -0500 Subject: package update ? In-Reply-To: <200409261821.i8QIL1i80745@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409261821.i8QIL1i80745@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <1096222982.16394.41.camel@x1-6-00-0a-e6-c7-6f-d8> when is the next major package update ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Sun Sep 26 18:40:54 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:40:54 +0300 Subject: media error? installing from hdd In-Reply-To: <1096213459.2691.36.camel@kyrre> References: <1096212257.3062.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1096213117.19890.6.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1096213459.2691.36.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: <1096224054.3063.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 17:44 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > try "linux mediacheck" - it will prompt you to test your media. Whether > it is cd's, NFS, HD etc. I've added mediacheck to grub (installing from hdd, added installer images to grub, no CDs). It passed all checks, then the installer went fine. A little weird. I also observed on some FC1 installs, it aborted the install with signal 11 (i know, hardware problem), but after running with mediacheck it worked fine. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Sun Sep 26 18:43:33 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:43:33 +0300 Subject: references to packages which don't exist Message-ID: <1096224213.3063.6.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Hi On fc3t2 everything install from hdd, before starting to installing rpms I switched to console and saw messages like base references prctl which doesn't exist core references rpmdb-redhat which ... development-tools ref. gcc-ppc32 ... Should these packages be removed from references? -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 18:49:29 2004 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:49:29 +0100 Subject: Firefox preferences failing to save Message-ID: I just installed FC3T2 yesterday, did a full up2date, and have run into a minor problem: When I launch Firefox (which is now version 1.0PR), I get the following message: "Failed to save the preferences file. Any preference changes will be lost at the end of the session." And, sure 'nuf, they are lost. I've tried running Firefox as root, and that saves preferences fine. I run into this problem only when running as a normal user. Any ideas? From jgeorgeson at lopht.net Sun Sep 26 18:52:46 2004 From: jgeorgeson at lopht.net (Justin Georgeson) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:52:46 -0500 Subject: eggcups Message-ID: <1096224766.3468.5.camel@dragon.lopht.net> I just did a yum update this morning (209 packages I think) and I now get a repeating error dialog that The Application "eggcups" has quit unexpectedly. You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it. Or you can restart the application right now. [Restart Application] [Close] Both buttons result in the dialog returning. Stopping both the cups and cups-config-daemon services doesn't get rid of it. I pretty much have to just windowshade it (it won't minimize) and put it off somewhere it won't bother me. From walters at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 18:58:29 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:58:29 -0400 Subject: eggcups In-Reply-To: <1096224766.3468.5.camel@dragon.lopht.net> References: <1096224766.3468.5.camel@dragon.lopht.net> Message-ID: <1096225109.4452.273.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 13:52 -0500, Justin Georgeson wrote: > I just did a yum update this morning (209 packages I think) and I now > get a repeating error dialog that > > The Application "eggcups" has quit unexpectedly. It will be fixed in rawhide very soon. I've already uploaded eggcups 0.14.1 with John Palmieri's fix for the eggcups side, we also need a HAL upload. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133567 > Both buttons result in the dialog returning. Stopping both the cups and > cups-config-daemon services doesn't get rid of it. I pretty much have to > just windowshade it (it won't minimize) and put it off somewhere it > won't bother me. Yeah, this is kind of a session manager bug for not at least trying to handle the situation. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rhally at mindspring.com Sun Sep 26 19:02:05 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 15:02:05 -0400 Subject: eggcups In-Reply-To: <1096224766.3468.5.camel@dragon.lopht.net> References: <1096224766.3468.5.camel@dragon.lopht.net> Message-ID: <4157122D.1000909@mindspring.com> Justin Georgeson wrote: >I just did a yum update this morning (209 packages I think) and I now >get a repeating error dialog that > >The Application "eggcups" has quit unexpectedly. > >You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it. Or >you can restart the application right now. > >[Restart Application] [Close] > >Both buttons result in the dialog returning. Stopping both the cups and >cups-config-daemon services doesn't get rid of it. I pretty much have to >just windowshade it (it won't minimize) and put it off somewhere it >won't bother me. > > > > I did : rpm -e desktop-printing to get rid of it. hth Richard Hally From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Sep 26 18:58:26 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:58:26 -0400 Subject: Yum --exclude broken? In-Reply-To: <20040926174532.GA381@rednote.net> References: <20040926174532.GA381@rednote.net> Message-ID: <1096225106.32521.10.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 13:45 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > I'm suddenly unable to update/upgrade with yum. Seems mozilla has been > marked at version 37 in one of the repos. > > So, no problem, I say to mmyself, and issue: > > yum --exclude epiphany update > > but to no avail. So, is it yum, or something I'm doing wrong? Anyone > else get anything similar? > > With yum-2.1.3-1 > > Reading repository metadata in from local files > core : ################################################## 2593/2593 > core : ################################################## 2593/2593 > dag : ################################################## 2743/2743 > freshrpms : ################################################## 416/416 > updates : ################################################## 603/603 > Excluding Packages > Finished > Excluding Incompatible Archs > Finished > Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux 2 - x86_64 - core > Excluding Packages from Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core > Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux 2 - x86_64 - freshrpms > Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux 2 - x86_64 - updates > Resolving Dependencies > Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany Epiphany isn't being updated, mozilla is. yum --exclude=mozilla\* update -sv From ehoover at mines.edu Sun Sep 26 19:14:09 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (Erich Hoover) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:14:09 -0600 Subject: Firefox preferences failing to save In-Reply-To: <41571435.9050503@dbmoptics.com> References: <41571435.9050503@dbmoptics.com> Message-ID: <41571501.9080101@mines.edu> Erich Hoover wrote: > I had this problem too, it ended up being that my profile from 0.9 was > corrupt/incompatible and had to be rebuilt. I did a variety of things > before I got things to work, most notably deleting all extension > directories, the extensions.rdf file, the chrome.rdf file, all the > "dat" files in the main directory and all the "db" files in the main > directory (make backups first and try replacing them one-by-one so you > can get most of your profile back). All of this stuff is stored in > ~/.mozilla/firefox//. If you don't care about > your profile just run firefox with the -ProfileManager option and make > a new one, that should accomplish the same thing. > >> I just installed FC3T2 yesterday, > did a full up2date, and have run > >> into a minor problem: When I launch Firefox (which is now version > >> 1.0PR), I get the following message: "Failed to save the > preferences > >> file. Any preference changes will be lost at the end of the > session." > >> And, sure 'nuf, they are lost. I've tried running Firefox as root, > >> and that saves preferences fine. I run into this problem only when > >> running as a normal user. Any ideas? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun Sep 26 19:16:13 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:16:13 +0200 Subject: Firefox preferences failing to save In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040926211613.18ab3911.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:49:29 +0100, Eamonn Sullivan wrote: > I just installed FC3T2 yesterday, did a full up2date, and have run > into a minor problem: When I launch Firefox (which is now version > 1.0PR), I get the following message: "Failed to save the preferences > file. Any preference changes will be lost at the end of the session." > And, sure 'nuf, they are lost. I've tried running Firefox as root, and > that saves preferences fine. I run into this problem only when running > as a normal user. Any ideas? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/133503 From eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 19:51:53 2004 From: eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com (Eamonn Sullivan) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:51:53 +0100 Subject: Firefox preferences failing to save In-Reply-To: <41571501.9080101@mines.edu> References: <41571435.9050503@dbmoptics.com> <41571501.9080101@mines.edu> Message-ID: Ah, thanks. That did the trick. Since this was a fresh install, I hadn't built up any preferences worth saving. I just deleted .mozilla, relaunched Firefox and everything worked as expected. Thanks much. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erich Hoover Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:14:09 -0600 Subject: Re: Firefox preferences failing to save To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com, Eamonn Sullivan Erich Hoover wrote: I had this problem too, it ended up being that my profile from 0.9 was corrupt/incompatible and had to be rebuilt. I did a variety of things before I got things to work, most notably deleting all extension directories, the extensions.rdf file, the chrome.rdf file, all the "dat" files in the main directory and all the "db" files in the main directory (make backups first and try replacing them one-by-one so you can get most of your profile back). All of this stuff is stored in ~/.mozilla/firefox//. If you don't care about your profile just run firefox with the -ProfileManager option and make a new one, that should accomplish the same thing. > I just installed FC3T2 yesterday, did a full up2date, and have run > into a minor problem: When I launch Firefox (which is now version > 1.0PR), I get the following message: "Failed to save the preferences > file. Any preference changes will be lost at the end of the session." > And, sure 'nuf, they are lost. I've tried running Firefox as root, > and that saves preferences fine. I run into this problem only when > running as a normal user. Any ideas? From www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br Sun Sep 26 19:52:29 2004 From: www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br (Marco Bicca) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 16:52:29 -0300 Subject: Hostname won't stick In-Reply-To: <4156CD7A.7020505@lqt.ca> References: <20040923143107.39773.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> <4156CD7A.7020505@lqt.ca> Message-ID: <41571DFD.7090409@terra.com.br> You can also set it under /etc/sysctl.conf kernel.hostname = desiredname.domain kernel.domainame = domain After that you run sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf Hope it helps, Marco Bicca Network Security Engineer eMail: mbicca at terra.com.br iCq: 3198441 YiM: twilightdrummer MsNm: hadeswarden at hotmail.com Linux registered user: 298447 PgP Key @ http://mbicca.securesolution.com.br/pgp/marco_bicca.asc Here I am - at the crossing of life I stand - On my own - looking down the road Hear my cry - answer me - Still I'm searching yet the truth is unknown - though the night is cold I walk the road alone SYMPHONY-X - Awakenings Paul Pianta wrote: > Michael Seney wrote: > >> Anyone ever have a problem with setting your hostname. >> Here is the deal, I dual boot w/ Windows XP which is >> ofcourse the first partition NTFS. Then there is a >> Fat32 Middle Partition and then my ext3 / a swap and >> /home which is ext3. For some reason it autonames my >> hostname upon installation gecko? I think Windows uses >> that? I wanted to make it something different and edit >> the /etc/hosts and made the 127.0.0.1 newhostname localhost. Used >> #hostname newhostname. Restarted X >> server and it took until a reboot? Any ideas why it >> wants to be gecko and doesn't like any other hostnames >> I want to specify. * I just put FC3T2 on this system >> and previously ran Debian Sarge with the hostname I >> liked without a problem. >> >> > Yeah setting hostname on a fedora box can be a bit of a run-around. > There are 3 things that I do to get it right ... > 1. Add it to your /etc/hosts > 2. Run the command 'hostname newhostname' > 3. Modify the HOSTNAME parameter in '/etc/sysconfig/network' > > hth > > pantz > >> >> >> _______________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! >> http://vote.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> > > From yonasb at netzero.com Sun Sep 26 19:53:01 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonasb at netzero.com) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:53:01 GMT Subject: yum clean needs an option? Message-ID: <20040926.125340.3306.1005920@webmail11.lax.untd.com> when I run "yum clean" I am getting "Error: Clean Now Requires an option" but yum --help didn't show me any otion for yum [yonas at fc3t2 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep yum yum-applet-1.0-1 yum-2.1.3-1 --yonas ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Sep 26 19:55:53 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 15:55:53 -0400 Subject: yum clean needs an option? In-Reply-To: <20040926.125340.3306.1005920@webmail11.lax.untd.com> References: <20040926.125340.3306.1005920@webmail11.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <1096228553.32521.14.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 19:53 +0000, yonasb at netzero.com wrote: > when I run "yum clean" I am getting > > "Error: Clean Now Requires an option" > > but yum --help didn't show me any otion for yum > > [yonas at fc3t2 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep yum > yum-applet-1.0-1 > yum-2.1.3-1 > yum clean headers yum clean packages yum clean all -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun Sep 26 19:56:04 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 15:56:04 -0400 Subject: yum clean needs an option? In-Reply-To: <20040926.125340.3306.1005920@webmail11.lax.untd.com> References: <20040926.125340.3306.1005920@webmail11.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <1096228564.32521.16.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 19:53 +0000, yonasb at netzero.com wrote: > when I run "yum clean" I am getting > > "Error: Clean Now Requires an option" > > but yum --help didn't show me any otion for yum > > [yonas at fc3t2 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep yum > yum-applet-1.0-1 > yum-2.1.3-1 and what is yum-applet? -sv From seyman at wanadoo.fr Sun Sep 26 20:32:22 2004 From: seyman at wanadoo.fr (Emmanuel Seyman) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:32:22 +0200 Subject: yum clean needs an option? In-Reply-To: <1096228564.32521.16.camel@binkley> References: <20040926.125340.3306.1005920@webmail11.lax.untd.com> <1096228564.32521.16.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <20040926203222.GA23288@orient.maison.moi> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 03:56:04PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > and what is yum-applet? Thomas Chung's applet to launch gyum (modified version of yumgui). Emmanuel From notting at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 20:43:56 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 16:43:56 -0400 Subject: FC3 T2 alsactl store issues unresolved In-Reply-To: <1096142356.3540.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> <1096140306.3540.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096142356.3540.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040926204356.GA14872@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Matias Feliciano (feliciano.matias at free.fr) said: > Le sam 25/09/2004 ? 21:25, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > > Works here > > only (two sound cards). > > Not tested with SELinux enabled. One other way to do it is to run alsactl out of /etc/dev.d. Bill From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Sun Sep 26 21:53:44 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:53:44 +0300 Subject: fc3t2: gnome-panel crashes? Message-ID: <1096235624.9527.7.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Hi I'm using FC3t2 for about an hour. Noticed weird behaviour with gnome desktop: * sometimes main menu failed to appear when clicked repeatedly, gnome- panel process using all CPU for ~20 seconds. After this it worked ok * main menu and panel shortcuts dissapeared for ~30 seconds. Later they were back. I also have a 1mb core file in my ~, strings gives on it (first lines) : tdHT CORE CORE gam_server /usr/libexec/gam_server ... GCC: (GNU) 3.4.1 20040831 (Red Hat 3.4.1-10) est: from %d, seq %d, type %d Unknown request type %d for %s gam_connection_request() failed Cancel: subscription for (%d) not found detected a data overflow or invalid size /media/* /mnt/* added %s to excludes found %s in excludes Deleted Moved Exists None Changed Created GAM_DEBUG ,,, GLib default GNode allocator /usr/share/mime-info/libgnomedb.mime UTF-8 UTF-8 /tmp /usr/share/mime-info many files listed and so on. There are no bugs on gamin for FC3 tests. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 21:56:28 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:56:28 -0400 Subject: eggcups In-Reply-To: <1096224766.3468.5.camel@dragon.lopht.net> References: <1096224766.3468.5.camel@dragon.lopht.net> Message-ID: <604aa79104092614566ee467ad@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:52:46 -0500, Justin Georgeson wrote: > Both buttons result in the dialog returning. Stopping both the cups and > cups-config-daemon services doesn't get rid of it. I pretty much have to > just windowshade it (it won't minimize) and put it off somewhere it > won't bother me. gnome-session-properties ...current session tab. set eggcups from reswpan to normal or trash and apply. gnome-session-properties should be in the preference menus but control-center package has an incorrect desktop for it with a wrong category listing so its not showing up in the menus. What you are seeing is a limitation to the current gnome-session's handling of "respawnable" applications. You have to know the application is set to respawn and you have to know that you can change that setting via the gnome-session-properties dialog because there is no feedback in the ui to hint to you that this is a session managed application set to respawn. -jef From veillard at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 21:59:59 2004 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:59:59 -0400 Subject: fc3t2: gnome-panel crashes? In-Reply-To: <1096235624.9527.7.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096235624.9527.7.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <20040926215958.GM2242@redhat.com> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 12:53:44AM +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi > > I'm using FC3t2 for about an hour. Noticed weird behaviour with gnome > desktop: > * sometimes main menu failed to appear when clicked repeatedly, gnome- > panel process using all CPU for ~20 seconds. After this it worked ok > * main menu and panel shortcuts dissapeared for ~30 seconds. Later they > were back. [...] > There are no bugs on gamin for FC3 tests. What version of gamin are you using ? 0.0.8 used to crash, recent versions should be far more stable. For more informations: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/ Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From wtogami at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 22:15:02 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:15:02 -1000 Subject: Latin fonts in qt b0rked Message-ID: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133578 Is anybody *NOT* seeing this problem? Our qt maintainer is unable to reproduce the problem while everyone else I've asked sees it. Perhaps more feedback will help us to isolate the cause, or at least a way to reproduce it. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Sep 26 22:34:53 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:34:53 +0100 Subject: Gtk-Perl gone missing? Message-ID: <1096238093.22052.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, What has happened to gtk-perl? It's listed on bugzilla but not in the test version. Has it been dropped and if it has, can we have it back please? Pretty please... TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From cylon at streamyx.com Sun Sep 26 23:06:35 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:06:35 +0800 Subject: Latin fonts in qt b0rked In-Reply-To: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> References: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> Message-ID: <41574B7B.2020701@streamyx.com> Warren Togami wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133578 > > Is anybody *NOT* seeing this problem? Our qt maintainer is unable to > reproduce the problem while everyone else I've asked sees it. Perhaps > more feedback will help us to isolate the cause, or at least a way to > reproduce it. > > Warren Togami > wtogami at redhat.com > > Sorry...i've face it...i done an FC3 full install and later a full update. From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 23:13:22 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:13:22 -0400 Subject: Gtk-Perl gone missing? In-Reply-To: <1096238093.22052.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096238093.22052.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa79104092616133481a60c@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:34:53 +0100, Paul wrote: > What has happened to gtk-perl? It's listed on bugzilla but not in the > test version. Has it been dropped and if it has, can we have it back > please? Pretty please... took you a while to notice it was gone... which doesn't same much for the importance of putting it back in Core. rawhide report: 20040814 changes Removed package Gtk-Perl -jef From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Sun Sep 26 23:17:50 2004 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:17:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: SATA problem. Message-ID: <20040926231750.42939.qmail@web86507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I thought I would try CORE 3 TEST 2 out on a spare HD in a windows server machine (intel SE7505VB2 board). The HD is configured as master on the ATA controller with the windows disk on the SATA controller but during boot everthing freezes at the point ANACONDA or the KERNEL is trying to load a driver for the SATA controller on the motherboard. Will there be functioning support for SATA hardware in the final release of CORE 3 or will we have to wait for CORE 4. NB Will there also be support for FIREWIRE hard disks as either fixed or removable devices at some point. From alan at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 23:22:47 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:22:47 -0400 Subject: SATA problem. In-Reply-To: <20040926231750.42939.qmail@web86507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20040926231750.42939.qmail@web86507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040926232247.GC11504@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 12:17:50AM +0100, DAVID BENTLEY wrote: > during boot everthing freezes at the point ANACONDA or > the KERNEL is trying to load a driver for the SATA > controller on the motherboard. Which SATA devices ? You may also need to turn off USB legacy support, and boot with acpi=off on some E750x to avoid random weirdness/hangs (BIOS we think) > Will there be functioning support for SATA hardware in > the final release of CORE 3 or will we have to wait > for CORE 4. Works for me 8) > NB Will there also be support for FIREWIRE hard disks > as either fixed or removable devices at some point. As and when/if firewire for Linux is actually usable grade. Alan From riel at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 23:35:22 2004 From: riel at redhat.com (Rik van Riel) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3 Bug Week - HELP WANTED In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Rik van Riel wrote: > The Fedora Core 3 freeze is coming soon, so it's time again for the > frantic activities of a Bug Week. This time with community participation. > The idea is to fix as many bugs as possible in the week from Sunday, > September 26th till Friday, October 1st. Yes, it starts this weekend... I've also gathered a number of bugs that are in MODIFIED state, but might still need confirmation that the bug is really fixed, so they can be CLOSED. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=FC3BugWeekQA Help from fedora-test-list participants would be very much appreciated. Thank you. -- "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan From notting at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 23:51:09 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:51:09 -0400 Subject: Gtk-Perl gone missing? In-Reply-To: <1096238093.22052.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096238093.22052.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040926235109.GA15442@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Paul (paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk) said: > What has happened to gtk-perl? It's listed on bugzilla but not in the > test version. Has it been dropped and if it has, can we have it back > please? Pretty please... It's a deprecated interface for a deprecated GUI library (gtk-1.x). It's not coming back in Core. Bill From alan at redhat.com Sun Sep 26 23:54:00 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:54:00 -0400 Subject: Initial testing results from FC3T2 Message-ID: <20040926235400.GA18218@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Doing x86-32 testing still so far and its mostly working. I've noticed one real nasty however. With Intel SATA on FC2 the devices appeared as /dev/hd* while in FC3 they are scsi. Anaconda appears not to know how to handle any rewriting of them if they are not by label and bombs out with an error that requires a user reboot. This also appears to break other stuff as it reported "Unable to detect the boot loader" 1152x768 is missing in the LCD size choices The FC2 "can't find CD-ROM" bug with ICH6M PATA/SATA is also fixed. I'd also not bothered to try Firefox until the FC3test2 CD's so that was a most pleasant suprise. I now see what the fuss is all about. The rest of the desktop also appears fine but I've hardly exercised it hard. The menu marker on the Hat is nice. Some glitches - the gnome file selector (which has been well covered before) and OpenOffice font breakage, but not much. Will file bugs tomorrow Alan From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Mon Sep 27 00:17:00 2004 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 01:17:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: SATA problem. In-Reply-To: <20040926232247.GC11504@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040927001700.50495.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --- Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 12:17:50AM +0100, DAVID > BENTLEY wrote: > > during boot everthing freezes at the point > ANACONDA or > > the KERNEL is trying to load a driver for the SATA > > controller on the motherboard. > > Which SATA devices ? You may also need to turn off > USB legacy support, > and boot with acpi=off on some E750x to avoid random > weirdness/hangs (BIOS > we think) > The SATA controller is a SIL 3112 and is configured in NON-RAID mode with two HGST 160 gig 7K250 drives. I will try turning USB legacy support off and boot with acpi=off and see what happens. NB just noticed that there is a newer bios 1_10 than I am currently using (1_09) so I might try a bios update aswell. > > Will there be functioning support for SATA > hardware in > > the final release of CORE 3 or will we have to > wait > > for CORE 4. > > Works for me 8) > > > NB Will there also be support for FIREWIRE hard > disks > > as either fixed or removable devices at some > point. > > As and when/if firewire for Linux is actually usable > grade. > > Alan > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon Sep 27 00:17:07 2004 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:17:07 +1000 Subject: volume keeps zeroing. Message-ID: <1096244227.3960.8.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> I'm having problems with the volume settings not being save. This means that each time I restart my laptop, I've got to reset the volume settings. Along the same lines, why is it the the volume settings default to zero. I understand that this is because it stops pops and crackles on start- up, but it's also a real usability issue. No new user is going to think that they aren't getting any sound from their computer because the volume settings default to zero. If the pop issue is so important, maybe the answer is to slide the volume up from zero on start-up (or when a new user logs in - presumable a users settings are remembered on log-out?). So, two issues: 1. why isn't the volume settings saving (it did under FC2) 2. why aren't the volumes settings set reasonably as a default. Rodd -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel From jonathansavage at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 00:31:39 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:31:39 -0700 Subject: Yum --exclude broken? In-Reply-To: <1096225106.32521.10.camel@binkley> References: <20040926174532.GA381@rednote.net> <1096225106.32521.10.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <2ad7cea10409261731328e50a4@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:58:26 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 13:45 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > I'm suddenly unable to update/upgrade with yum. Seems mozilla has been > > marked at version 37 in one of the repos. > > ... > Epiphany isn't being updated, mozilla is. > > yum --exclude=mozilla\* update > > -sv Alternately you could uninstall Epiphany. -- Bests, Jon ---- ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>?. >>> ???`?.?. , . .???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>> > From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 27 00:44:48 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:44:48 -0400 Subject: i810 rehash and dell inspiron 2600 In-Reply-To: <4156323B.20206@lopht.net> References: <4156323B.20206@lopht.net> Message-ID: <41576280.5080002@sbcglobal.net> Justin Georgeson wrote: > As an interesting note, Dell Inspiron 2600 laptops must stay at BIOS > revision A08 or lower or this chipset will not work at all in any Linux > distribution. > > What are the differences between the xorg i810 driver (is the upstream > fixed one in the FC3 xorg 6.8.0 packages?) and the Intel one? The latest > version from Intel was released in June of this year and the README > tells how to configure dual-head support. Has anyone installed it (I > haven't been able to build it so far on FC3T2 or Suse 9.1)? > With a Dell computer that has an 828 656 Graphics controller, the driver has changes that make the server solid vs. previous version of X. The pre-CVS versions would totally crash X and leave whatever visual representations were on the display present. X itself would not be in the process list. I seem to recall that this GC identifies itself as an 845 GC. I did a search for the specs for your laptop. It came back with information that it uses the 830 chipset. Therefore, if it acts like the 845, it should work better with the CVS version. If it acts more like the 815, you are out of luck. Regarding dual head support. I tried this for the 815 GC and had a bit of trouble. This was with another troubled video card, so the results were pretty useless. (Lockups and other things) As a note on BIOS for the Dell, I had to upgrade BIOS from A03 to A04. I have not tried the Intel driver version. Is this more capable than the xorg-x11 version? Any different features besides dual-head? Jim From gbpeck at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 27 00:58:23 2004 From: gbpeck at sbcglobal.net (Gary Peck) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:58:23 -0700 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <1096124812.4206.23.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <20040927005822.GC22107@realify.com> On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 05:06:51PM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > On Sam, 2004-09-25 at 16:27 +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > > Must have been a problem with one of my USB ports, using another port it > > now created the device node, but as expected not regarding console.perms > > Even worse it resets the ownership of /dev/ttyUSB* each time I press the > hotsync button. Yeah, that's because the device node gets recreated each time you hotsync. Moreover, console.perms refers to /dev/pilot, which used to be a symlink to /dev/ttyUSB1. Under udev, however, that symlink no longer exists and so the permissions in console.perms never get applied. The solution is to create a /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules file with the following in it: # palm pilot KERNEL="ttyUSB1", SYMLINK="pilot" Maybe it would make sense to have this in the default udev config? Otherwise, people that had the /dev/pilot link before udev will experience breakage. Gary From mark.bradbury at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 01:29:04 2004 From: mark.bradbury at gmail.com (Mark Bradbury) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:59:04 +0930 Subject: firefox firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 left & right Arrows no working Message-ID: Hi All Just upgraded firefox to firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 and noticed that the left and right arrows on my keyboard do not work in a input box on a webpage. Anyone else have this? From jonathansavage at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 01:36:06 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 18:36:06 -0700 Subject: firefox firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 left & right Arrows no working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad7cea1040926183624fae777@mail.gmail.com> Nope. On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:59:04 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > Hi All > > Just upgraded firefox to firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 and noticed that the > left and right arrows on my keyboard do not work in a input box on a > webpage. > > Anyone else have this? > Nope. Works as expected for me in fc2 test 2. --- Bests, Jon ---- ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>?. >>> ???`?.?. , . .???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>> > From bavinic at comcast.net Mon Sep 27 01:56:09 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:56:09 -0400 Subject: firefox firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 left & right Arrows no working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41577339.5010702@comcast.net> Mark Bradbury wrote: >Hi All > >Just upgraded firefox to firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 and noticed that the >left and right arrows on my keyboard do not work in a input box on a >webpage. > >Anyone else have this? > > > > Yeah I have noticed this as well, thought it was a bit odd. BaVinic From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 02:04:36 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 16:04:36 -1000 Subject: firefox firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 left & right Arrows no working In-Reply-To: <41577339.5010702@comcast.net> References: <41577339.5010702@comcast.net> Message-ID: <41577534.6020706@redhat.com> http://people.redhat.com/caillon/RPMS/fc3/mozilla/ Newer firefox for FC3 available for testing before it hits rawhide. From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon Sep 27 02:18:35 2004 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:18:35 +1000 Subject: could openoffice.org-i18n be seperated into languages, or language groups. Message-ID: <1096251515.3960.27.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> openoffice.org-i18n is huge, so it got me wondering, could this package be separated into individual languages to try and minimize the size of the download. I would guess that for most people they only need a single language, or a couple of languages at most, so having to download 115MB of package just to get a couple of languages seems excessive, especially if an update is issued. Would this be possible? And should I file a bug proposing this (I appreciate that this may not be actioned before FC3, but I still think it's worth it in the future.) Rodd -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 27 02:23:31 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:23:31 -0400 Subject: printing not working. Message-ID: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> I tried to print and found out that my HP DEskjet 810C printer would not print. I also noted that Openoffice showed only a generic printer available. When trying to print, my system went into a semmingly frozen state. I then launched system-config-printer and found only a red X and did not see a way to add a printer manually. The program took a long time to even launch. I then opened hwbrowser and my printer is listed through this tool. Also, I tried to print from gedit and mozilla with the same results. Of course with no printer being setup automatically, this is not a surprise. The slowdown on the system was there with thes programs also. hal-0.2.98.cvs20040923-1 desktop-printing-0.14-1 cups-1.1.21-2 system-config-printer-0.6.112-1 The not needing to configure the printer was a reality before this FC3T2 installation. Also, I got the eggcups dialog problem yesterday and do not have it today. Is there something that needs deleted to remedy this failure? JIm From warren at togami.com Mon Sep 27 02:24:20 2004 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 16:24:20 -1000 Subject: printing not working. In-Reply-To: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> References: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <415779D4.3040209@togami.com> http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/wiki/PostIsOffTopic From warren at togami.com Mon Sep 27 02:25:37 2004 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 16:25:37 -1000 Subject: printing not working. In-Reply-To: <415779D4.3040209@togami.com> References: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> <415779D4.3040209@togami.com> Message-ID: <41577A21.708@togami.com> Warren Togami wrote: > http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/wiki/PostIsOffTopic > > Oops... sorry, I thought for a second I was reading fedora-devel-list. My mistake... Warren From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Mon Sep 27 02:38:02 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:38:02 -0400 Subject: firefox firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 left & right Arrows no working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096252682.3741.2.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 10:59 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > Hi All > > Just upgraded firefox to firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 and noticed that the > left and right arrows on my keyboard do not work in a input box on a > webpage. > > Anyone else have this? > > I was having the same problem. So I installed the new rpm from http://people.redhat.com/caillon/RPMS/fc3/mozilla/ and now it works correctly. -- Ricardo Veguilla From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 27 03:11:50 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:11:50 -0400 Subject: printing not working. In-Reply-To: <41577A21.708@togami.com> References: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> <415779D4.3040209@togami.com> <41577A21.708@togami.com> Message-ID: <415784F6.6010503@sbcglobal.net> Warren Togami wrote: > Warren Togami wrote: > >> http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/wiki/PostIsOffTopic >> >> > > Oops... sorry, I thought for a second I was reading fedora-devel-list. > My mistake... > > Warren > > No problem Warren. I finally have my printer recognized after a really slow tour through the system-config-printer program. The main error seemed to be related to pausing at 631 localhost. I believe this problem is related to eth0 not getting an address initially, then I have to run dhclient in order to get an inet address. If it is not chained from this problem, then it finally successfully configured the printer and caused my refresh problem with X when trying to do a test page. I try to observe more than post to the devel list. I'll try printing after the configuration after sending this. Jim From smooge at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 03:37:12 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:37:12 -0600 Subject: Known Kernel Error? ip_conntrack Message-ID: <80d7e4090409262037cf822d6@mail.gmail.com> Weird error with the FC3T2 kernel when doing [root at bake_neko net]# cat ip_conntrack data removed [ASSURED] use=1 [root at bake_neko net]# dmesg Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:2046 in_atomic():1[expected: 0], irqs_disabled():0 [<0211c50c>] __might_sleep+0x7d/0x89 [<02147a12>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x1d/0x4c [<22a200b8>] ct_seq_start+0x3c/0x50 [ip_conntrack] [<02187457>] seq_read+0xcb/0x23e [<02161697>] vfs_read+0xb6/0xe2 [<021618aa>] sys_read+0x3c/0x62 bad: scheduling while atomic! [<022f7159>] schedule+0x2d/0x59b [<02106542>] dump_stack+0x11/0x13 [<0211c50c>] __might_sleep+0x7d/0x89 [<02147a17>] kmem_cache_alloc+0x22/0x4c [<22a200b8>] ct_seq_start+0x3c/0x50 [ip_conntrack] [<02187457>] seq_read+0xcb/0x23e [<02161697>] vfs_read+0xb6/0xe2 [<021618aa>] sys_read+0x3c/0x62 So far... very standard install of FC3T2. Opened bugzilla.. so just a heads up here. -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From cra at WPI.EDU Mon Sep 27 03:43:03 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:43:03 -0400 Subject: printing not working. In-Reply-To: <415784F6.6010503@sbcglobal.net> References: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> <415779D4.3040209@togami.com> <41577A21.708@togami.com> <415784F6.6010503@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040927034303.GE24689@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 11:11:50PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > No problem Warren. I finally have my printer recognized after a really > slow tour through the system-config-printer program. The main error > seemed to be related to pausing at 631 localhost. I believe this problem > is related to eth0 not getting an address initially, then I have to > run dhclient in order to get an inet address. If it is not chained from > this problem, then it finally successfully configured the printer and > caused my refresh problem with X when trying to do a test page. I don't know if this is related, but I noticed that a recent cups upgrade caused cupsd to listen on 0.0.0.0:631, instead of 127.0.0.1:631. The new /etc/cups/cupsd.conf doesn't have a Listen 127.0.0.1 line in it. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 27 03:44:30 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:44:30 -0400 Subject: printing now working. In-Reply-To: <415784F6.6010503@sbcglobal.net> References: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> <415779D4.3040209@togami.com> <41577A21.708@togami.com> <415784F6.6010503@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <41578C9E.2070300@sbcglobal.net> > I'll try printing after the configuration after sending this. Swapping in and out HW contributed to the error with s-c-p (Radeon PCI in, 3COM NIC out). The NIC that was present for eth0 (3Com) was no longer present and caused the realtech to get the wrong MAC address or some related failure. Removing all NIC devices from the configuration via system-config-network and then starting over allowed the printer to print without freezing. Leases were tried via dhclient and failed, then were later successful and s-c-p proceeded to the next step. This is before reconfiguration of the network cards. The test page was successful after getting the NIC working correctly. Jim From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 27 03:56:21 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:56:21 -0400 Subject: printing not working. In-Reply-To: <20040927034303.GE24689@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> <415779D4.3040209@togami.com> <41577A21.708@togami.com> <415784F6.6010503@sbcglobal.net> <20040927034303.GE24689@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <41578F65.8090504@sbcglobal.net> Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 11:11:50PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>No problem Warren. I finally have my printer recognized after a really >>slow tour through the system-config-printer program. The main error >>seemed to be related to pausing at 631 localhost. I believe this problem >> is related to eth0 not getting an address initially, then I have to >>run dhclient in order to get an inet address. If it is not chained from >>this problem, then it finally successfully configured the printer and >>caused my refresh problem with X when trying to do a test page. > > > I don't know if this is related, but I noticed that a recent cups > upgrade caused cupsd to listen on 0.0.0.0:631, instead of > 127.0.0.1:631. The new /etc/cups/cupsd.conf doesn't have a Listen > 127.0.0.1 line in it. > > This might be a contributing factor to this hangup. I tried to launch s-c-p again and it seems to be polling continuously. It still seems to be acting strangely regarding the time to start and refreshing the screen per selection tried. Printing works now and the program is not needed again hopefully. Thanks for mentioning the above finding. Jim From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Sep 27 06:33:28 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:33:28 +0100 Subject: Gtk-Perl gone missing? In-Reply-To: <604aa79104092616133481a60c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1096238093.22052.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092616133481a60c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096266808.22052.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > > What has happened to gtk-perl? It's listed on bugzilla but not in the > > test version. Has it been dropped and if it has, can we have it back > > please? Pretty please... > > took you a while to notice it was gone... which doesn't same much for > the importance of putting it back in Core. Not really. Before the reinstall last Monday, it was on the machine. Post install, it's not. I didn't get the FC updates until a couple of weeks back, so won't have seen the notice of its removal. TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I also tried an update on my test box, although in reality there was not much to update but still, :-) and anaconda run into the same trouble. Michal From david at fubar.dk Mon Sep 27 07:16:38 2004 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:16:38 +0200 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <20040927005822.GC22107@realify.com> References: <20040927005822.GC22107@realify.com> Message-ID: <1096269399.3371.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 17:58 -0700, Gary Peck wrote: > On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 05:06:51PM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > > On Sam, 2004-09-25 at 16:27 +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > > > Must have been a problem with one of my USB ports, using another port it > > > now created the device node, but as expected not regarding console.perms > > > > Even worse it resets the ownership of /dev/ttyUSB* each time I press the > > hotsync button. > > Yeah, that's because the device node gets recreated each time you > hotsync. Moreover, console.perms refers to /dev/pilot, which used to be > a symlink to /dev/ttyUSB1. Under udev, however, that symlink no longer > exists and so the permissions in console.perms never get applied. > > The solution is to create a /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules file with > the following in it: > > # palm pilot > KERNEL="ttyUSB1", SYMLINK="pilot" > > Maybe it would make sense to have this in the default udev config? > Otherwise, people that had the /dev/pilot link before udev will > experience breakage. > Suggest that KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot%e" is better so we can handle multiple devices (the %e modifier for 'enumerate' is rather new, see the udev man page for details). It's not perfect though, because this will also create these symlinks for non-PDA devices such as USB-to-serial devices. One thing is the fact that /dev/pilot, or /dev/pilot1 symlink appear, we can probably live with this, another one is the console gains read/write rights. I'm not sure this is a huge problem though, but there might be threat scenarios? David From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Sep 27 08:32:37 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:32:37 +0200 Subject: FC3 T2 alsactl store issues unresolved In-Reply-To: <20040926204356.GA14872@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <4154AFBB.7030409@xmission.com> <1096140306.3540.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096142356.3540.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040926204356.GA14872@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096273606.3284.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 26/09/2004 ? 22:43, Bill Nottingham a ?crit : > Matias Feliciano (feliciano.matias at free.fr) said: > > Le sam 25/09/2004 ? 21:25, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > > > Works here > > > only (two sound cards). > > > > Not tested with SELinux enabled. > > One other way to do it is to run alsactl out of /etc/dev.d. Thanks. Add a /etc/dev.d/sound/alsa.dev to this bug : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133535 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From spam at tachegroup.com Mon Sep 27 08:51:51 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 04:51:51 -0400 Subject: hald daemon taking 97% of CPU time In-Reply-To: <1096122878.4206.11.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: I also have seen this problem, and upgrading solved it. I did not have any USB or PCMCIA devices in the machine when seeing it. It started when I used, mount and unmounted, a USB pen drive, and never went away after many reboots. The upgrade fixed it it seems. on 9/25/2004 10:34 AM, Thomas Zehetbauer at thomasz at hostmaster.org wrote: > Hi Rajesh, > > I have been experiencing propably related behaviour with hal daemon: > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3325 > > Could you try to disconnect all USB devices, especially card readers? > > Tom From harald at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 09:00:26 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:00:26 +0200 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 In-Reply-To: <20040924163653.GB12006@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> <41528CCB.4080307@redhat.com> <1095940027.3323.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <4153A50F.3050700@yahoo.com> <4153EB01.10006@redhat.com> <20040924163653.GB12006@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4157D6AA.7030809@redhat.com> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Harald Hoyer (harald at redhat.com) said: > >>Normally, if you insmod a scsi host adaptor it causes several hotplug >>events, which are handled also by the scsi.agent, which loads the sr_mod >>or other scsi related modules. >>But if the scsi hostadapter module is loaded in the initrd, there is no >>scsi.agent and also no sr_mod... thus no device nodes are created.. Doh! >> >>In my opinion, if a host adaptor is loaded, the sg module should be >>loaded in any case, to enable generic scsi commands. > > > sg isn't used for generic SG access... SG_IO can be used on the > device itself. > so, what is it for now? From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Sep 27 09:01:13 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:01:13 +0200 Subject: media error? installing from hdd In-Reply-To: <1096212257.3062.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096212257.3062.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1096275669.3284.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 26/09/2004 ? 17:24, Marius Andreiana a ?crit : > Tried installing fc3t2 from hdd (4 isos, md5's are correct, checked then > twice) > > On about 1/3 from install, it gave an error on installing gnome-applets, > suggesting media error or lack of space (installed everything, had a 10g > partitions just formatted by it) > > Any suggestions on what could be wrong? The same system is running fc2 > now. > Just to confirm the bug : http://linuxfr.org/forums/30/3827.html It's in french. The guy have the same problem (in text mode). Mediacheck is OK. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Sep 27 09:15:29 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:15:29 +0200 Subject: volume keeps zeroing. In-Reply-To: <1096244227.3960.8.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1096244227.3960.8.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1096276522.3284.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 27/09/2004 ? 02:17, Rodd Clarkson a ?crit : > 1. why isn't the volume settings saving (it did under FC2) http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133535 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 10:11:21 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:11:21 +0200 Subject: firefox firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 left & right Arrows no working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096279881.2722.38.camel@kyrre> An update will hit rawhide soon (this morning) man, 27.09.2004 kl. 03.29 skrev Mark Bradbury: > Hi All > > Just upgraded firefox to firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.0 and noticed that the > left and right arrows on my keyboard do not work in a input box on a > webpage. > > Anyone else have this? > From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 10:14:30 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:14:30 +0200 Subject: could openoffice.org-i18n be seperated into languages, or language groups. In-Reply-To: <1096251515.3960.27.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1096251515.3960.27.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1096280070.2722.46.camel@kyrre> Agreed. Would make updating ex. a new dictionary easyer and more affordable. But FINALLY there is norwegian support in OpenOffice (the menus etc are all norwegian :P Now i just hope there are support for certain important werbs in the dic - such as "walk", "get" etc. But exact from those 10+ words, the dictionary is really nice!) man, 27.09.2004 kl. 04.18 skrev Rodd Clarkson: > openoffice.org-i18n is huge, so it got me wondering, could this package > be separated into individual languages to try and minimize the size of > the download. > > I would guess that for most people they only need a single language, or > a couple of languages at most, so having to download 115MB of package > just to get a couple of languages seems excessive, especially if an > update is issued. > > Would this be possible? And should I file a bug proposing this (I > appreciate that this may not be actioned before FC3, but I still think > it's worth it in the future.) > > > Rodd > > > > -- > >From the pain come the dream > >From the dream come the vision > >From the vision come the people > >From the people come the power > >From this power come the change > > - Peter Gabriel > From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 10:20:46 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:20:46 +0200 Subject: printing not working. In-Reply-To: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> References: <415779A3.2010804@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1096280446.2722.55.camel@kyrre> I had trouble with another HP as well - the HP 2000 C. It is detected corectly, but prints only garbage... If anyone has this printer - please check out https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133647 Kyrre man, 27.09.2004 kl. 04.23 skrev Jim Cornette: > I tried to print and found out that my HP DEskjet 810C printer would not > print. I also noted that Openoffice showed only a generic printer > available. When trying to print, my system went into a semmingly frozen > state. > I then launched system-config-printer and found only a red X and did not > see a way to add a printer manually. The program took a long time to > even launch. > > I then opened hwbrowser and my printer is listed through this tool. > > Also, I tried to print from gedit and mozilla with the same results. Of > course with no printer being setup automatically, this is not a > surprise. The slowdown on the system was there with thes programs also. > > hal-0.2.98.cvs20040923-1 > desktop-printing-0.14-1 > cups-1.1.21-2 > system-config-printer-0.6.112-1 > > The not needing to configure the printer was a reality before this FC3T2 > installation. Also, I got the eggcups dialog problem yesterday and do > not have it today. Is there something that needs deleted to remedy this > failure? > > JIm > From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Mon Sep 27 10:55:31 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:55:31 +0300 Subject: Latin fonts in qt b0rked In-Reply-To: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> References: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409271355.31213.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Warren Togami kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika maanantai, 27. syyskuuta 2004 01:15): > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133578 > > Is anybody *NOT* seeing this problem? I have fontconfig-2.2.3-4 and qt-3.3.3-5 as in the bug report, and I'm not seeing this problem. All Qt/KDE applications work fine. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Mon Sep 27 11:32:44 2004 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:32:44 +0100 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 Message-ID: <1096284764.29717.0.camel@heplnw8> Hi there, I'm having trouble with the same issue. * hwbrowser sees 'Yamaha CRW2100S as /dev/scd0' * hwbrowser does not see this under SCSI..maybe that's OK? * /sbin/lsmod | grep sg empty * /proc/scsi/scsi: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00 Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW2100S Rev: 1.0K Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 How do I find the major/minor numbers from mknod please? And was there a conclusion on which modules need to be loaded? Thanks, Bill Murray From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Mon Sep 27 11:48:56 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:48:56 +0200 Subject: Latin fonts in qt b0rked In-Reply-To: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> References: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040927134856.1b2d4624.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:15:02 -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133578 > > Is anybody *NOT* seeing this problem? Our qt maintainer is unable to > reproduce the problem while everyone else I've asked sees it. Perhaps > more feedback will help us to isolate the cause, or at least a way to > reproduce it. Don't see it here. But I don't track Rawhide on this machine and just upgraded fontconfig. $ rpm -q qt fontconfig qt-3.3.3-5 fontconfig-2.2.3-4 -- Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) - Linux 2.6.8-1.541 loadavg: 2.03 1.95 1.51 From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 12:00:12 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:00:12 -1000 Subject: Latin fonts in qt b0rked In-Reply-To: <200409271355.31213.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> References: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> <200409271355.31213.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <415800CC.1070505@redhat.com> Markku Kolkka wrote: > Warren Togami kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika maanantai, 27. > syyskuuta 2004 01:15): > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133578 >> >>Is anybody *NOT* seeing this problem? > > > I have fontconfig-2.2.3-4 and qt-3.3.3-5 as in the bug report, > and I'm not seeing this problem. All Qt/KDE applications work > fine. > What LANG? What contents of /etc/sysconfig/i18n? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Mon Sep 27 12:08:39 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:08:39 +0300 Subject: Latin fonts in qt b0rked In-Reply-To: <415800CC.1070505@redhat.com> References: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> <200409271355.31213.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> <415800CC.1070505@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409271508.39315.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Warren Togami kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika maanantai, 27. syyskuuta 2004 15:00): > What LANG? $ echo $LANG fi_FI.UTF-8 > What contents of /etc/sysconfig/i18n? $ cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n LANG="fi_FI.UTF-8" SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en:fi_FI.UTF-8:fi_FI:fi" SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16" -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From harald at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 12:10:19 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:10:19 +0200 Subject: Latin fonts in qt b0rked In-Reply-To: <200409271355.31213.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> References: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> <200409271355.31213.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <4158032B.7050204@redhat.com> Markku Kolkka wrote: > Warren Togami kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika maanantai, 27. > syyskuuta 2004 01:15): > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133578 >> >>Is anybody *NOT* seeing this problem? > > > I have fontconfig-2.2.3-4 and qt-3.3.3-5 as in the bug report, > and I'm not seeing this problem. All Qt/KDE applications work > fine. > Just install all *font*rpms and I think it will show up From harald at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 13:23:39 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:23:39 +0200 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 In-Reply-To: <1096284764.29717.0.camel@heplnw8> References: <1096284764.29717.0.camel@heplnw8> Message-ID: <4158145B.9090403@redhat.com> William John Murray wrote: > Hi there, > I'm having trouble with the same issue. > * hwbrowser sees 'Yamaha CRW2100S as /dev/scd0' > * hwbrowser does not see this under SCSI..maybe that's OK? > * /sbin/lsmod | grep sg empty > * /proc/scsi/scsi: > Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00 > Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW2100S Rev: 1.0K > Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > How do I find the major/minor numbers from mknod please? And was > there a conclusion on which modules need to be loaded? > Thanks, > Bill Murray > > just modprobe sg, if you really need /dev/sg0 /dev/scd0 should normally be enough to burn CDs... From ron.flory at adtran.com Mon Sep 27 13:22:54 2004 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (RON FLORY) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:22:54 -0500 Subject: Hostname won't stick In-Reply-To: <4156CD7A.7020505@lqt.ca> References: <20040923143107.39773.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> <4156CD7A.7020505@lqt.ca> Message-ID: <4158142E.3080101@adtran.com> Paul Pianta wrote: > Michael Seney wrote: > >> Anyone ever have a problem with setting your hostname. >> Here is the deal, I dual boot w/ Windows XP which is >> ofcourse the first partition NTFS. Then there is a >> Fat32 Middle Partition and then my ext3 / a swap and >> /home which is ext3. For some reason it autonames my >> hostname upon installation gecko? I think Windows uses >> that? I wanted to make it something different and edit >> the /etc/hosts and made the 127.0.0.1 newhostname localhost. Used >> #hostname newhostname. Restarted X >> server and it took until a reboot? Any ideas why it >> wants to be gecko and doesn't like any other hostnames >> I want to specify. * I just put FC3T2 on this system >> and previously ran Debian Sarge with the hostname I >> liked without a problem. >> >> > Yeah setting hostname on a fedora box can be a bit of a run-around. > There are 3 things that I do to get it right ... > 1. Add it to your /etc/hosts > 2. Run the command 'hostname newhostname' > 3. Modify the HOSTNAME parameter in '/etc/sysconfig/network' I believe 1 & 2 above are temporary at best (if they work at all), #3 is preferred and will survive a reboot. ron From dcbw at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 14:13:35 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:13:35 -0400 Subject: could openoffice.org-i18n be seperated into languages, or language groups. In-Reply-To: <1096280070.2722.46.camel@kyrre> References: <1096251515.3960.27.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> <1096280070.2722.46.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: <1096294415.28598.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> No need to file a bug, this is planned for post-FC3. Dan On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:14 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > Agreed. Would make updating ex. a new dictionary easyer and more > affordable. > > But FINALLY there is norwegian support in OpenOffice (the menus etc are > all norwegian :P Now i just hope there are support for certain important > werbs in the dic - such as "walk", "get" etc. But exact from those 10+ > words, the dictionary is really nice!) > > man, 27.09.2004 kl. 04.18 skrev Rodd Clarkson: > > openoffice.org-i18n is huge, so it got me wondering, could this package > > be separated into individual languages to try and minimize the size of > > the download. > > > > I would guess that for most people they only need a single language, or > > a couple of languages at most, so having to download 115MB of package > > just to get a couple of languages seems excessive, especially if an > > update is issued. > > > > Would this be possible? And should I file a bug proposing this (I > > appreciate that this may not be actioned before FC3, but I still think > > it's worth it in the future.) > > > > > > Rodd > > > > > > > > -- > > >From the pain come the dream > > >From the dream come the vision > > >From the vision come the people > > >From the people come the power > > >From this power come the change > > > > - Peter Gabriel > > > > From katzj at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 14:40:07 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:40:07 -0400 Subject: Arrow for NEXT in arabic should be pointing to left ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096296008.4636.33.camel@bree.local.net> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 18:08 +0200, xerces8 wrote: > In GUI install of FC2t2 I choose the arabic language, just for fun. As > arabic script is right-to-left, all the GUI is also turned around left-right. > > Except the arrow on the NEXT/PREV buttons are still "western". On the > "Next" button the arrow is pointing to the right, whil it would be more > consistent with the rest of the GUI, if it pointed to left. This has been filed a few times. It's a bug in redhat-artwork and should hopefully be fixed for test3 Jeremy From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 14:54:51 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:54:51 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> Message-ID: <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:10:36 +0200, Lars wrote: If nvidia and composite is working for you. Can you add comments to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133679 -jef From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Mon Sep 27 15:14:43 2004 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:14:43 +0100 Subject: cron as normal user - changed In-Reply-To: <20040927145750.A685D73E39@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040927145750.A685D73E39@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096298083.3448.8.camel@wjmurray> Hello there, I see that a cron.allow/cron.deny combination is now specifically required, but I am not sure how to make it work correctly. If I have a user 'myuser' who issues crontab afile the response is You (myuser) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) See crontab(1) for more information. Now I 'touch /etc/crontab.deny'; and get: cron/tmp.XXXXTBxTOG: Permission denied. I am not sure where this file is not being written - perhaps the protection on this need changing? Any ideas anyone? Bill From xerces8 at butn.net Mon Sep 27 15:20:56 2004 From: xerces8 at butn.net (xerces8) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:20:56 +0200 Subject: Arrow for NEXT in arabic should be pointing to left ? In-Reply-To: <1096296008.4636.33.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1096296008.4636.33.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: That would be http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128721 -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Katz To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:40:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Arrow for NEXT in arabic should be pointing to left ? > On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 18:08 +0200, xerces8 wrote: > > In GUI install of FC2t2 I choose the arabic language, just for fun. > As > > arabic script is right-to-left, all the GUI is also turned around > left-right. > > > > Except the arrow on the NEXT/PREV buttons are still "western". On the > > "Next" button the arrow is pointing to the right, whil it would be > more > > consistent with the rest of the GUI, if it pointed to left. > > This has been filed a few times. It's a bug in redhat-artwork and > should hopefully be fixed for test3 > > Jeremy > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From marco.delellis1 at virgilio.it Mon Sep 27 15:45:08 2004 From: marco.delellis1 at virgilio.it (Marco De Lellis) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:45:08 +0200 Subject: FC3 Test 2 on external USB hard drive. Message-ID: <41583584.8020606@virgilio.it> I am having trouble with installation of FC3T2 onto an external USB drive. I did it successfully with FC2 following the directions I found at http://www.simonf.com/usb. The trick was modify the initrd.img, adding the modules usbcore.ko, sd_mod.ki, scsi_mod.ko, ehci-hcd; then a few lines added to linuxrc etc. etc. A bit of work with a successful end. Now FC3T2: the initrd.img is now made with cpio instead of an image generated with dd and mke2fs... Anyway I made the image initrd with all the modules (except usbcore.ko, which I suppose is linked statically to te kernel), and I followed the same schema of the link above. The result is this: kernel panic, VFS: unable to mount root on unknown... The question is: that method is not valid for FC3? There is something I missed? Very grateful for any educative help. Marco From notting at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 16:19:09 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:19:09 -0400 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 In-Reply-To: <4157D6AA.7030809@redhat.com> References: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> <41528CCB.4080307@redhat.com> <1095940027.3323.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <4153A50F.3050700@yahoo.com> <4153EB01.10006@redhat.com> <20040924163653.GB12006@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <4157D6AA.7030809@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040927161909.GA25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Harald Hoyer (harald at redhat.com) said: > >sg isn't used for generic SG access... SG_IO can be used on the > >device itself. > > so, what is it for now? I came in late to the discussion - what specifically is erroring out? Bill From notting at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 16:20:59 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:20:59 -0400 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <1096269399.3371.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040927005822.GC22107@realify.com> <1096269399.3371.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040927162059.GB25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> David Zeuthen (david at fubar.dk) said: > Suggest that > > KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot%e" > > is better so we can handle multiple devices (the %e modifier for > 'enumerate' is rather new, see the udev man page for details). > > It's not perfect though, because this will also create these symlinks > for non-PDA devices such as USB-to-serial devices. > > One thing is the fact that /dev/pilot, or /dev/pilot1 symlink appear, we > can probably live with this, another one is the console gains read/write > rights. I'm not sure this is a huge problem though, but there might be > threat scenarios? We could do matching based on vendor/device IDs, surely? Bill From david at fubar.dk Mon Sep 27 16:46:30 2004 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:46:30 +0200 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <20040927162059.GB25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040927005822.GC22107@realify.com> <1096269399.3371.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040927162059.GB25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096303590.4835.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:20 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > David Zeuthen (david at fubar.dk) said: > > Suggest that > > > > KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot%e" > > > > is better so we can handle multiple devices (the %e modifier for > > 'enumerate' is rather new, see the udev man page for details). > > > > It's not perfect though, because this will also create these symlinks > > for non-PDA devices such as USB-to-serial devices. > > > > One thing is the fact that /dev/pilot, or /dev/pilot1 symlink appear, we > > can probably live with this, another one is the console gains read/write > > rights. I'm not sure this is a huge problem though, but there might be > > threat scenarios? > > We could do matching based on vendor/device IDs, surely? > Indeed; you'll end up with a lot of udev rules though. I'm not sure where the all the vendor/product ID's would come from though. David From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 16:58:25 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:58:25 +0200 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <1096303590.4835.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040927005822.GC22107@realify.com> <1096269399.3371.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040927162059.GB25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1096303590.4835.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096304305.28679.1.camel@kyrre> What about some app, say "system-config-udev" in which people easily could create (and submit) new udev rules? So that you started it, hit "start seach", connected the device, hit stop seach, and it would be able to find the vendor/id strings? man, 27.09.2004 kl. 18.46 skrev David Zeuthen: > On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:20 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > David Zeuthen (david at fubar.dk) said: > > > Suggest that > > > > > > KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot%e" > > > > > > is better so we can handle multiple devices (the %e modifier for > > > 'enumerate' is rather new, see the udev man page for details). > > > > > > It's not perfect though, because this will also create these symlinks > > > for non-PDA devices such as USB-to-serial devices. > > > > > > One thing is the fact that /dev/pilot, or /dev/pilot1 symlink appear, we > > > can probably live with this, another one is the console gains read/write > > > rights. I'm not sure this is a huge problem though, but there might be > > > threat scenarios? > > > > We could do matching based on vendor/device IDs, surely? > > > > Indeed; you'll end up with a lot of udev rules though. I'm not sure > where the all the vendor/product ID's would come from though. > > David > > From jim at jbsys.com Mon Sep 27 17:10:48 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:10:48 -0700 Subject: Is it Fedora or VMWare Message-ID: <007a01c4a4b4$ef7ad690$0c01a8c0@nugget> I have installed VMWare workstation 4.5.2 on FC3-T2 using Kernel 2.6.8-1.584 on an Athlon 64. I have been able to get everything to work, but had one major problem along the way. I have a 30 GB ide disk on /dev/hdb that I use for VMWare physical images. Here is the fdisk -l output: Disk /dev/hdb: 30.0 GB, 30020272128 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3649 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 1 621 4988151 b W95 FAT32 /dev/hdb2 622 3649 24322410 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hdb5 622 1386 6144831 b W95 FAT32 /dev/hdb6 1387 1600 1718923+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hdb7 1601 3649 16458561 83 Linux This give me 16065 sectors per cylinder and 58621185 sectors on the disk. When I configure VMWare to use this disk for physical images it creats a .vmdk that defines the physical disk. Here is the original .vmdk file: # Disk DescriptorFile version=1 CID=fffffffe parentCID=ffffffff createType="fullDevice" # Extent description RW 58633344 FLAT "/dev/hdb" 0 # The Disk Data Base #DDB ddb.virtualHWVersion = "3" ddb.geometry.cylinders = "16383" ddb.geometry.heads = "16" ddb.geometry.sectors = "63" ddb.geometry.biosCylinders = "1024" ddb.geometry.biosHeads = "16" ddb.geometry.biosSectors = "63" ddb.adapterType = "ide" As you will notice, the disk geometry is all wrong as well as the total size. If I try to boot up the Windows 98 image on the disk, no image is found. I am not sure where VMWare gets its information from in Fedora, but it is wrong. If I modify the file to look like the following, everything works fine: # Disk DescriptorFile version=1 CID=dbcd9a3c parentCID=ffffffff createType="fullDevice" # Extent description RW 58621184 FLAT "/dev/hdb" 0 # The Disk Data Base #DDB ddb.toolsVersion = "5184" ddb.virtualHWVersion = "3" ddb.geometry.cylinders = "16065" ddb.geometry.heads = "255" ddb.geometry.sectors = "63" ddb.geometry.biosCylinders = "16065" ddb.geometry.biosHeads = "255" ddb.geometry.biosSectors = "63" ddb.adapterType = "ide" I know there were geometry reporting problems in Fedora Core 2. Is this a problem for Fedora or a problem in VMWare? Just trying to help out others that might want to use physical images in VMWare. Jim From NaveR at fidelitytech.com Mon Sep 27 17:22:17 2004 From: NaveR at fidelitytech.com (Nave, Ronald) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:22:17 -0400 Subject: NVIDIA drivers Message-ID: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE39728C@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> As of my latest update to FC3-test2 on 9/27/2004 , The NVIDIA-Linux-1.0-6111 driver still does not load properly on start up. It is necessary to run the installation program each time the machine is booted. Also it is necessary to run /sbin/modprobe nvidia manually to get the nvidia module to load. Once the installation process is repeated X windows will respond to startx and the machine runs OK. It also appears that up2date and yum are not working properly. Both yum and up2date will startup , but they are so slow that they are nearly useless. For some reason I can use Mozilla and go directly to the yum mirror server and then manually download the new RPM files using FTP and then install using rpm -Uvh *.rpm. Perhaps there are so many people updating that yum and up2date can not handle the load. From whb at ceimaine.org Mon Sep 27 17:21:37 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:21:37 -0400 Subject: Expired Releases Message-ID: <1096305698.31701.16.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> Problem: Release gets expired, but admin doesn't change the repository for updates. Possible solution: up2date already includes a re-direct. Perhaps re- direct to fedora legacy repositories. Possible solution: Create a final RPM that only includes a trigger to e- mail root and print to the screen that the current distro is no longer updated. Crazy talk? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. - A computer is a device used to convert data into error messages. From mister.ribbit at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 17:21:36 2004 From: mister.ribbit at gmail.com (Mister Ribbit) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:21:36 -0700 Subject: Sound card not detected -- Intel HD Audio Message-ID: I just tried installing FC3T2 on a new box I put together with one of the new Intel 915G motherboards and (unlike FC2) the video is working right out of the box. However, (like FC2), the audio card is still not detected. Thoughts? I can try installing using the Intel supplied script that will go and compile the stuff, but I'm trying to see if there's an even easier way. Ciao! Ryan From whb at ceimaine.org Mon Sep 27 17:22:36 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:22:36 -0400 Subject: NVIDIA drivers In-Reply-To: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE39728C@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> References: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE39728C@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> Message-ID: <1096305756.31701.18.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 13:22 -0400, Nave, Ronald wrote: > It also appears that up2date and yum are not working properly. > > Both yum and up2date will startup , but they are so slow that they are > nearly useless. > Try deleting everything in /var/spool/up2date -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. - A computer is a device used to convert data into error messages. From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 17:24:29 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:24:29 +0200 Subject: Sound card not detected -- Intel HD Audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096305869.28679.12.camel@kyrre> It will help if you say what kind of souncard is built into it. Personaly i just had the joy of detecting that the ESS built in card that reside in many older compac computers could be made to work by simply putting the lines "options snd-es1688 dma8=1 enable=1 index=0 irq=5 mpu_irq=-1" "alias snd-card-0 snd-es1688" in modprobe.conf man, 27.09.2004 kl. 19.21 skrev Mister Ribbit: > I just tried installing FC3T2 on a new box I put together with one of > the new Intel 915G motherboards and (unlike FC2) the video is working > right out of the box. However, (like FC2), the audio card is still > not detected. Thoughts? > > I can try installing using the Intel supplied script that will go and > compile the stuff, but I'm trying to see if there's an even easier > way. > > Ciao! > Ryan > From bavinic at comcast.net Mon Sep 27 17:28:21 2004 From: bavinic at comcast.net (Jim Martin) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:28:21 -0400 Subject: NVIDIA drivers In-Reply-To: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE39728C@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> References: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE39728C@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> Message-ID: <41584DB5.4070800@comcast.net> My solutions to this problem is simple, I edited /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit in the area marked echo -n $"Initializing hardware... " ide="" scsi="" network="" audio="" other="nvidia" <--- add this to it. and it loads every time. I am not sure if the problem is with Fedora, or with nVidia as some have cliamed. but this works for me. BaVinic Nave, Ronald wrote: >As of my latest update to FC3-test2 on 9/27/2004 , The >NVIDIA-Linux-1.0-6111 driver still does not load properly on start up. > >It is necessary to run the installation program each time the machine is >booted. > >Also it is necessary to run /sbin/modprobe nvidia manually to get the >nvidia module to load. > >Once the installation process is repeated X windows will respond to >startx and the machine >runs OK. > >It also appears that up2date and yum are not working properly. > >Both yum and up2date will startup , but they are so slow that they are >nearly useless. > >For some reason I can use Mozilla and go directly to the yum mirror server >and then manually download the new RPM files using FTP and then install >using rpm -Uvh *.rpm. > >Perhaps there are so many people updating that yum and up2date can not >handle the load. > > > > > From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon Sep 27 17:29:04 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:29:04 -0400 Subject: no /dev/nst0 Message-ID: My scsi tape used to be /dev/nst0, now it doesn't seem to have been created. From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Mon Sep 27 17:30:44 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:30:44 -0500 Subject: sensors-detect not working Message-ID: <1096306244.3211.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> When I try to run sensors-detect I get a message: No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them. I'm running kernel 2.6.8-1.541smp. If I load the modules I need manually, sensors will display stats. Timothy From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 17:38:40 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:38:40 -0400 Subject: NVIDIA drivers In-Reply-To: <41584DB5.4070800@comcast.net> References: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE39728C@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> <41584DB5.4070800@comcast.net> Message-ID: <604aa79104092710383a42ed4f@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:28:21 -0400, Jim Martin wrote: > I am not sure if the problem is with Fedora, or with nVidia as some have > cliamed. but this works for me. Its not just nvidia... i have a usb scanner on my system that sane won't detect until i modprobe the sg manually. The 'other' trick you use for nvidia works just as a well for me to load the sg driver. So the issue is more general than just nvidia or addon drivers, its affecting atleast the supplied sg driver as well. if things can't be made to "just work" for certain drivers, and some manual intervention needs to be performed on the client machine, some other mechanism besides manually editting rc.sysinit should be provided. I would MUCH prefer if rc.sysinit looked for a file containing "other" modules to preload instead of editting rc.sysinit directly. I'd rather keep sysinit uneditting locally if at all possible. Someting like /etc/other_stupid_modules_to_preload.conf would seem appropriate to me. -jef From maxer1 at xmission.com Mon Sep 27 17:53:08 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (maxer1) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:53:08 -0600 Subject: nscd-2.3.3-58 latest dev update failed Message-ID: <41585384.7040706@xmission.com> Using up2date and got this message updating nscd-2.3.3-58. There was a package dependency problem. The message was: To solve all dependencies for the RPMs you have selected, The following packages you have marked to exclude would have to be added to the set: Package Name Reason For Skipping ====================================================================== selinux-policy-targeted-source Config modified selinux-policy-targeted-source Config modified Unresolvable chain of dependencies: selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.17.19- requires selinux-policy-targeted = 1.17.19-2 Please modify your package selections and try again. I guess we'll wait for another package :) RaXeT From maxer1 at xmission.com Mon Sep 27 18:09:18 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (maxer1) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:09:18 -0600 Subject: FC3T2 Errors on boot up Message-ID: <4158574E.5030001@xmission.com> Running latest dev updates for FC3T2 here. Last updated this am. 9-27-04 I get the following during kernel boot. Nothing in the logs, pre -initscripts stuff: ln: cannot remove '/dev/stdin' Read Only File System ln: cannot remove '/dev/stderr' Read Only File System ln: cannot remove '/dev/core' Read Only File System Then I get this: ln /dev/MAKEDEV /sbin/MAKEDEV rm: cannot remove /dev//.udev.tdb Read Only File System Then everything carries on without a glitch. Should this be bugged as MAKEDEV? RaXeT From henryhartley at westat.com Mon Sep 27 18:25:44 2004 From: henryhartley at westat.com (Henry Hartley) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:25:44 -0400 Subject: File Not Found - 2.6.8-1.521 Message-ID: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0362E02F@remail2.westat.com> I've just installed FC3t2. Actually, I upgraded from an FC2 installation. After completing the upgrade, which ran without incident, and rebooting the computer, I get GRUB with a single option (Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.521). I select that and get the following error message. ------------------------------------------------------- Booting 'Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.521)' root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.521 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue... ------------------------------------------------------- Pressing any key sends me back to GRUB which isn't much help. I booted to rescue mode and found that the kernel that is actually installed is 2.6.8-1.541 (541 instead of 521). When I changed the GRUB commands to look for that file instead, I was able to boot normally. Just thought someone would want to know. -- Henry From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 18:25:23 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:25:23 +0200 Subject: File Not Found - 2.6.8-1.521 In-Reply-To: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0362E02F@remail2.westat.com> References: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0362E02F@remail2.westat.com> Message-ID: <1096309523.28961.0.camel@kyrre> file a bug against anaconda? man, 27.09.2004 kl. 20.25 skrev Henry Hartley: > I've just installed FC3t2. Actually, I upgraded from an FC2 installation. > After completing the upgrade, which ran without incident, and rebooting the > computer, I get GRUB with a single option (Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.521). I > select that and get the following error message. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Booting 'Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.521)' > > root (hd0,0) > Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.521 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > > Error 15: File not found > > Press any key to continue... > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Pressing any key sends me back to GRUB which isn't much help. I booted to > rescue mode and found that the kernel that is actually installed is > 2.6.8-1.541 (541 instead of 521). When I changed the GRUB commands to look > for that file instead, I was able to boot normally. Just thought someone > would want to know. > > -- > Henry > From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 18:26:14 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:26:14 +0200 Subject: NumLock on on startup in gnome? Message-ID: <1096309574.28961.2.camel@kyrre> Does anyone know if there is some way to turn on NumLock on startup of gnome? That would be a great feature, which should probably be found in preferences->keyboard. Kyrre From jgiglio at netmar.com Mon Sep 27 18:32:53 2004 From: jgiglio at netmar.com (Jason Giglio) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:32:53 -0400 Subject: Bogus Root DNS server Traffic. Message-ID: <41585CD5.4060807@netmar.com> Hello, This bug is in SuSe, Debian, every version of Red Hat I tested. tcpdump -nl -i any -s 2048 dst port 53 ssh user at host 14:53:30.239173 65.114.174.99.32778 > 205.171.3.65.domain: 64500+ AAAA? host.domain.com. (46) (DF) 14:53:30.267398 65.114.174.99.32778 > 205.171.3.65.domain: 64501+ AAAA? host. (26) (DF) 14:53:30.286020 65.114.174.99.32778 > 205.171.3.65.domain: 64502+ A? host.domain.com. (46) (DF) That middle query is causing bogus root DNS server traffic every time someone sshs to an unqualified hostname within their LAN. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131610 SSH people won't take responsibility for this bug. The Fedora people won't take responsibility for this bug. I'm sick of trying to report this bug, so here it is. I figured the administrators of root DNS servers should know about this, which is why I copied to NANOG. Who knows how much bogus traffic this issue is causing. My guess is lots. -- Jason Giglio IT Coordinator Smyth Bedford, VA, USA Phone: 540-586-2311x113 From henryhartley at westat.com Mon Sep 27 18:38:24 2004 From: henryhartley at westat.com (Henry Hartley) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:38:24 -0400 Subject: File Not Found - 2.6.8-1.521 Message-ID: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0362E030@remail2.westat.com> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > man, 27.09.2004 kl. 20.25 skrev Henry Hartley: >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> Booting 'Fedora Core (2.6.8-1.521)' >> root (hd0,0) >> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 >> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.521 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet >> Error 15: File not found > file a bug against anaconda? Never mind. It's already there: Bug #: 132878 -- Henry From dr at cluenet.de Mon Sep 27 18:43:58 2004 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:43:58 +0200 Subject: Bogus Root DNS server Traffic. In-Reply-To: <41585CD5.4060807@netmar.com> References: <41585CD5.4060807@netmar.com> Message-ID: <20040927184358.GA8466@srv01.cluenet.de> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 02:32:53PM -0400, Jason Giglio wrote: > This bug is in SuSe, Debian, every version of Red Hat I tested. Looks like the stub resolver in glibc. Permutation order should be hostname over AFI, not AFI over hostname, agreed. So the correct query sequence should be: - AAAA host.domain.com. - A host.domain.com. - AAAA host. - A host. > That middle query is causing bogus root DNS server traffic every time > someone sshs to an unqualified hostname within their LAN. Nod. > SSH people won't take responsibility for this bug. They are correct. It's not their fault. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131610 > The Fedora people won't take responsibility for this bug. They do, did you test as Florian asked you? Regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr at cluenet.de -- dr at IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0 From rhouston at rlhc.net Mon Sep 27 18:51:49 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:51:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Openoffice rpm Message-ID: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Hi all, I have a need to have the OpenOffice spadmin util available for my users on a FC2 terminal server. Is there a way to add it back into the openoffice rpm? I have tried commenting out the part of the spec file that removed the directories related to the spadmin util and that works but when you try to run the util it complains about a missing lib. So in short I would like to use the rpm exactly as found on an FC2 system but have access to the spadmin and supporting libs. Any insight or comment would be greatly appreciated. If nothing else does anyone know who I could email about this? Thanks in advance. Regards, +------------------------------------------+ | Richard Houston .^. | | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | | E-Mail /( )\ | | WWW ^^-^^ | +------------------------------------------+ From ksnider at flarn.com Mon Sep 27 18:53:44 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:53:44 -0400 Subject: Bogus Root DNS server Traffic. In-Reply-To: <41585CD5.4060807@netmar.com> References: <41585CD5.4060807@netmar.com> Message-ID: <415861B8.8070108@flarn.com> Jason Giglio wrote: > Hello, > > This bug is in SuSe, Debian, every version of Red Hat I tested. > > tcpdump -nl -i any -s 2048 dst port 53 > > ssh user at host > > 14:53:30.239173 65.114.174.99.32778 > 205.171.3.65.domain: 64500+ AAAA? > host.domain.com. (46) (DF) > 14:53:30.267398 65.114.174.99.32778 > 205.171.3.65.domain: 64501+ AAAA? > host. (26) (DF) > 14:53:30.286020 65.114.174.99.32778 > 205.171.3.65.domain: 64502+ A? > host.domain.com. (46) (DF) > > That middle query is causing bogus root DNS server traffic every time > someone sshs to an unqualified hostname within their LAN. Jason, copied from your RedHat bug (Which also appears to be copied from elsewhere): "OpenSSH just uses the standard getaddrinfo() API, it doesn't do anything magical for DNS queries. Any complaints about getaddrinfo()'s behaviour on your system should be directed to your libc vendor." This is a glibc issue, not openSSH, and as such likely affects a lot more than openssh (probably anything that uses glibc resolve code rather than libresolve). > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131610 As he bug asks, is this still an issue in FC3t2? For the record, this *is* still an issue in RHEL3U3. -- Ken Snider From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 18:57:59 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:57:59 +0200 Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: <1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> man, 27.09.2004 kl. 20.51 skrev Richard Houston: > Hi all, > > I have a need to have the OpenOffice spadmin util available for my users > on a FC2 terminal server. Is there a way to add it back into the > openoffice rpm? > > I have tried commenting out the part of the spec file that removed the > directories related to the spadmin util and that works but when you try to > run the util it complains about a missing lib. > > So in short I would like to use the rpm exactly as found on an FC2 system > but have access to the spadmin and supporting libs. > > Any insight or comment would be greatly appreciated. > > If nothing else does anyone know who I could email about this? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Regards, > +------------------------------------------+ > | Richard Houston .^. | > | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | > | E-Mail /( )\ | > | WWW ^^-^^ | > +------------------------------------------+ > > I am also running a terminal server off fedora - but what is spadmin? From jgiglio at netmar.com Mon Sep 27 19:09:10 2004 From: jgiglio at netmar.com (Jason Giglio) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:09:10 -0400 Subject: Bogus Root DNS server Traffic. In-Reply-To: <415861B8.8070108@flarn.com> References: <41585CD5.4060807@netmar.com> <415861B8.8070108@flarn.com> Message-ID: <41586556.2070308@netmar.com> Ken Snider wrote: > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131610 > > > As he bug asks, is this still an issue in FC3t2? > > For the record, this *is* still an issue in RHEL3U3. > Could someone who already has FC3test2 installed please confirm this? I do not have the resources at my disposal to test this personally. BTW- I realized it probably was a glibc bug, as the SSH people suggested, however I was not able to get confirmation on this, so I presented the information as I had discovered it, with SSH. If anything it makes for an easy way to test it, as SSH is ubiquitous. -- Jason Giglio IT Coordinator Smyth Bedford, VA, USA Phone: 540-586-2311x113 From rhouston at rlhc.net Mon Sep 27 19:31:44 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:31:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: <34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Spadmin is the printer and font admin utility for openoffice. It is included in the package from openoffice.org. It allows you to change the default printer system from lpr to what ever you want. In our case we are going to use kprinter to allow users access to the extended features of our lexmark printer. The issue here on FC2 is that openoffice, I assume, has been setup to use libgnomeprint and or talks to the cups printer directly. I an not sure. I have symlinked the lpr in /usr/bin to kprinter but openoffice still uses it's internal printer setup. This setup does not allow openoffice to access the advanced features of the printers such as duplex printing and alternative paper trays from a standard user. With spadmin you can also setup fax printers for open office and pdf printers which I realize is already available. Regards, +------------------------------------------+ | Richard Houston .^. | | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | | E-Mail /( )\ | | WWW ^^-^^ | +------------------------------------------+ Kyrre Ness Sjobak said: > man, 27.09.2004 kl. 20.51 skrev Richard Houston: >> Hi all, >> >> I have a need to have the OpenOffice spadmin util available for my users >> on a FC2 terminal server. Is there a way to add it back into the >> openoffice rpm? >> >> I have tried commenting out the part of the spec file that removed the >> directories related to the spadmin util and that works but when you try >> to >> run the util it complains about a missing lib. >> >> So in short I would like to use the rpm exactly as found on an FC2 >> system >> but have access to the spadmin and supporting libs. >> >> Any insight or comment would be greatly appreciated. >> >> If nothing else does anyone know who I could email about this? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> Regards, >> +------------------------------------------+ >> | Richard Houston .^. | >> | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | >> | E-Mail /( )\ | >> | WWW ^^-^^ | >> +------------------------------------------+ >> >> > > I am also running a terminal server off fedora - but what is spadmin? > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From smooge at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 19:43:54 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:43:54 -0600 Subject: Initial testing results from FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <20040926235400.GA18218@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040926235400.GA18218@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <80d7e409040927124378389c12@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:54:00 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > I'd also not bothered to try Firefox until the FC3test2 CD's so that was > a most pleasant suprise. I now see what the fuss is all about. The rest > of the desktop also appears fine but I've hardly exercised it hard. The > menu marker on the Hat is nice. Some glitches - the gnome file selector > (which has been well covered before) and OpenOffice font breakage, but > not much. I have found my reason for life in FC3test2.. bzflag. Oh the ecstasy... of course I suck and need a box more powerful than the 700 mhz box with no 3d to play it.. but I havent had so much fun in years. -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From dcbw at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 19:48:31 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:48:31 -0400 Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: <1096314511.9861.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> spadmin (Star Printer Admin) is the utility from OOo that allows you to add printers or PDF converters or Fax printers to OOo. This tool was present until the CUPS integration was added to OOo. What do you need it for? Dan On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 20:57 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > man, 27.09.2004 kl. 20.51 skrev Richard Houston: > > Hi all, > > > > I have a need to have the OpenOffice spadmin util available for my users > > on a FC2 terminal server. Is there a way to add it back into the > > openoffice rpm? > > > > I have tried commenting out the part of the spec file that removed the > > directories related to the spadmin util and that works but when you try to > > run the util it complains about a missing lib. > > > > So in short I would like to use the rpm exactly as found on an FC2 system > > but have access to the spadmin and supporting libs. > > > > Any insight or comment would be greatly appreciated. > > > > If nothing else does anyone know who I could email about this? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Regards, > > +------------------------------------------+ > > | Richard Houston .^. | > > | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | > > | E-Mail /( )\ | > > | WWW ^^-^^ | > > +------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > I am also running a terminal server off fedora - but what is spadmin? > > From whb at ceimaine.org Mon Sep 27 19:57:25 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:57:25 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 EggCups Crashing Message-ID: <1096315045.3341.5.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> After updating today, I keep getting a popup that egg-cups has crashed (Restart?) It seems to be when I stick a CD in with a windows autorun. I'll have to dig more. Anyone else seeing this? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. - A computer is a device used to convert data into error messages. From jgeorgeson at lopht.net Mon Sep 27 20:00:03 2004 From: jgeorgeson at lopht.net (Justin Georgeson) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:00:03 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 EggCups Crashing In-Reply-To: <1096315045.3341.5.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1096315045.3341.5.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <41587143.7030807@lopht.net> discussed yesterday, http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-September/msg01274.html the second post in the thread has a link to a bugzilla entry. the forth post explains how to get the dialog to stop popping up repeatedly. Will Backman wrote: > After updating today, I keep getting a popup that egg-cups has crashed > (Restart?) > > It seems to be when I stick a CD in with a windows autorun. I'll have to > dig more. Anyone else seeing this? > -- ; Justin Georgeson ; "Free the mallocs, delete the news" ; http://boycott-riaa.com ; http://www.openoffice.org From ultramancool at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 20:03:41 2004 From: ultramancool at gmail.com (CC cc) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:03:41 -0400 Subject: What packages? Message-ID: Wondering what packages FC3T2 has? Is there a package list? or can someone tell me what version of Gnome KDE Kernel X and all other big packages it has? -- _________________________________ "If something can go wrong it will go wrong" -I forget who "We understand microsofts current situation... bring out the explosisves!" -Pufflez From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 20:06:21 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:06:21 +0200 Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> <34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: <1096315581.28961.8.camel@kyrre> Seems kindof usefull... man, 27.09.2004 kl. 21.31 skrev Richard Houston: > Spadmin is the printer and font admin utility for openoffice. It is > included in the package from openoffice.org. It allows you to change the > default printer system from lpr to what ever you want. In our case we are > going to use kprinter to allow users access to the extended features of > our lexmark printer. > > The issue here on FC2 is that openoffice, I assume, has been setup to use > libgnomeprint and or talks to the cups printer directly. I an not sure. I > have symlinked the lpr in /usr/bin to kprinter but openoffice still uses > it's internal printer setup. This setup does not allow openoffice to > access the advanced features of the printers such as duplex printing and > alternative paper trays from a standard user. > > With spadmin you can also setup fax printers for open office and pdf > printers which I realize is already available. > > > > > Regards, > +------------------------------------------+ > | Richard Houston .^. | > | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | > | E-Mail /( )\ | > | WWW ^^-^^ | > +------------------------------------------+ > > Kyrre Ness Sjobak said: > > man, 27.09.2004 kl. 20.51 skrev Richard Houston: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I have a need to have the OpenOffice spadmin util available for my users > >> on a FC2 terminal server. Is there a way to add it back into the > >> openoffice rpm? > >> > >> I have tried commenting out the part of the spec file that removed the > >> directories related to the spadmin util and that works but when you try > >> to > >> run the util it complains about a missing lib. > >> > >> So in short I would like to use the rpm exactly as found on an FC2 > >> system > >> but have access to the spadmin and supporting libs. > >> > >> Any insight or comment would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> If nothing else does anyone know who I could email about this? > >> > >> Thanks in advance. > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> +------------------------------------------+ > >> | Richard Houston .^. | > >> | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | > >> | E-Mail /( )\ | > >> | WWW ^^-^^ | > >> +------------------------------------------+ > >> > >> > > > > I am also running a terminal server off fedora - but what is spadmin? > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon Sep 27 20:13:11 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:13:11 +0200 Subject: What packages? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096315773.3257.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 27/09/2004 ? 22:03, CC cc a ?crit : > Wondering what packages FC3T2 has? Is there a package list? or can > someone tell me what version of Gnome KDE Kernel X and all other big > packages it has? Check the packages : http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/development/SRPMS/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From rhouston at rlhc.net Mon Sep 27 20:15:13 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:15:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <1096314511.9861.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> <1096314511.9861.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <34392.24.77.172.251.1096316113.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> I want to force my print jobs to kprinter for the advance printer function that I can not access with the current print system in openoffice. If I can not move from lpr to kprinter with the FC2 OO how can I remove the libgnomeprint stuff from openoffice all together? I would like to still have all the niceties like the icons in FC2 and the nice fonts. All I really want to do is force my print jobs to kprinter from OO if there is another way please let me know. I am open to suggestions. Regards, +------------------------------------------+ | Richard Houston .^. | | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | | E-Mail /( )\ | | WWW ^^-^^ | +------------------------------------------+ Dan Williams said: > spadmin (Star Printer Admin) is the utility from OOo that allows you to > add printers or PDF converters or Fax printers to OOo. This tool was > present until the CUPS integration was added to OOo. > > What do you need it for? > > Dan > > On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 20:57 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: >> man, 27.09.2004 kl. 20.51 skrev Richard Houston: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I have a need to have the OpenOffice spadmin util available for my >> users >> > on a FC2 terminal server. Is there a way to add it back into the >> > openoffice rpm? >> > >> > I have tried commenting out the part of the spec file that removed the >> > directories related to the spadmin util and that works but when you >> try to >> > run the util it complains about a missing lib. >> > >> > So in short I would like to use the rpm exactly as found on an FC2 >> system >> > but have access to the spadmin and supporting libs. >> > >> > Any insight or comment would be greatly appreciated. >> > >> > If nothing else does anyone know who I could email about this? >> > >> > Thanks in advance. >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > +------------------------------------------+ >> > | Richard Houston .^. | >> > | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | >> > | E-Mail /( )\ | >> > | WWW ^^-^^ | >> > +------------------------------------------+ >> > >> > >> >> I am also running a terminal server off fedora - but what is spadmin? >> >> > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Mon Sep 27 20:18:31 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:18:31 -0400 Subject: NVIDIA drivers In-Reply-To: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE39728C@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> References: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE39728C@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> Message-ID: <41587597.70309@hpcf.upr.edu> Nave, Ronald wrote: >As of my latest update to FC3-test2 on 9/27/2004 , The >NVIDIA-Linux-1.0-6111 driver still does not load properly on start up. > > > If I'm not mistaken, this problem (no driver autoloading) is caused by the changed to udev. I think they are working on this. >It is necessary to run the installation program each time the machine is >booted. > > You should only need to re-run the nvidia installer after a kernel upgrade. >Also it is necessary to run /sbin/modprobe nvidia manually to get the >nvidia module to load. > >Once the installation process is repeated X windows will respond to >startx and the machine >runs OK. > > Workaround #1 modify /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit where it says echo -n $"Initializing hardware... " ide="" scsi="" network="" audio="" other="nvidia" <--- add this Pros: rhgb will use the nvidia driver (which is kind of useless) Cons: upgrading the initscript package may remove the modification. Workaround #2 now rhgb accepts an alternate configuration file (/etc/rhgb/xorg.conf ) so now you can use the safe x.org driver "nv" for rhgb and call "modprobe nvidia" from /etc/rc.d/rc.local Pros: rhgb will use the x.org driver, upgrading initscript will not change the setting Con: a little more work >It also appears that up2date and yum are not working properly. > >Both yum and up2date will startup , but they are so slow that they are >nearly useless. > >For some reason I can use Mozilla and go directly to the yum mirror server >and then manually download the new RPM files using FTP and then install >using rpm -Uvh *.rpm. > >Perhaps there are so many people updating that yum and up2date can not >handle the load. > I also experienced some connection problem a few days ago while trying to upgrade (rawhide) using both yum and up2date. I tried a few hours later and it worked fine, so I ssume was a connection problem on my side. But now that you mention it, I did download RPMS from the repository using the browser....weird. -- Ricardo Veguilla From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Mon Sep 27 20:20:12 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:20:12 -0400 Subject: What packages? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <415875FC.4010806@hpcf.upr.edu> CC cc wrote: >Wondering what packages FC3T2 has? Is there a package list? or can >someone tell me what version of Gnome KDE Kernel X and all other big >packages it has? > > You can browse the RPMs here: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/ -- Ricardo Veguilla From akabi at speakeasy.net Mon Sep 27 20:18:23 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:18:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: What packages? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sep 27, 2004 at 16:03, CC cc in a soothing rage wrote: >Wondering what packages FC3T2 has? Is there a package list? or can >someone tell me what version of Gnome KDE Kernel X and all other big >packages it has? Go to an FC mirror and list the rpms yourself. eg. ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 I am a conscientious man, when I throw rocks at seabirds I leave no tern unstoned. -- Ogden Nash, "Everybody's Mind to Me a Kingdom Is" 16:15:14 up 91 days, 9:30, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From henryhartley at westat.com Mon Sep 27 20:20:08 2004 From: henryhartley at westat.com (Henry Hartley) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:20:08 -0400 Subject: What packages? Message-ID: <446DDE75CFC7E1438061462F85557B0F0362E036@remail2.westat.com> CC cc wrote: > Wondering what packages FC3T2 has? Is there a package list? or can > someone tell me what version of Gnome KDE Kernel X and all other big > packages it has? This directory: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/i386/os/Fe dora/RPMS/ should give you a pretty good list. Note that this will show you the status as of September 19, 2004. Check here for updates: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fed ora/RPMS/ -- Henry From ekul.taylor at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 20:26:25 2004 From: ekul.taylor at gmail.com (Luke Taylor) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:26:25 -0400 Subject: What packages? In-Reply-To: <415875FC.4010806@hpcf.upr.edu> References: <415875FC.4010806@hpcf.upr.edu> Message-ID: <34593e65040927132627a7f4fd@mail.gmail.com> here's a list i found: http://fedoranews.org/tchung/fc3-test2/package-list.txt hope it helps > >Wondering what packages FC3T2 has? Is there a package list? or can > >someone tell me what version of Gnome KDE Kernel X and all other big > >packages it has? > > > > From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Sep 27 20:31:24 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:31:24 +0200 Subject: Initial testing results from FC3T2 In-Reply-To: <80d7e409040927124378389c12@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040926235400.GA18218@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <80d7e409040927124378389c12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096317084.28961.13.camel@kyrre> YES! I works fine on my main computer - a 650 mhz p3 with a geforce 2 mx pci running fc2 and nvidia driver - and also the laptop with 800 mhz pentium3m and an integrated 16 MB ATI chip running FOSS drivers. *kyrre dodges the bzflag icon, escapes from typing bzflag in run, and goes off to do some debugging* Kyrre man, 27.09.2004 kl. 21.43 skrev Stephen J. Smoogen: > On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:54:00 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > > I'd also not bothered to try Firefox until the FC3test2 CD's so that was > > a most pleasant suprise. I now see what the fuss is all about. The rest > > of the desktop also appears fine but I've hardly exercised it hard. The > > menu marker on the Hat is nice. Some glitches - the gnome file selector > > (which has been well covered before) and OpenOffice font breakage, but > > not much. > > I have found my reason for life in FC3test2.. bzflag. > > Oh the ecstasy... of course I suck and need a box more powerful than > the 700 mhz box with no 3d to play it.. but I havent had so much fun > in years. > > > > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. > Professional System Administrator From smooge at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 20:59:25 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:59:25 -0600 Subject: wget problem? Message-ID: <80d7e40904092713594ab19d9a@mail.gmail.com> I am trying to figure out if this is a problem in wget or something else in FC3T2 I try to download various src.rpm and I only get a small part of the data before wget exits after getting about 1147 bytes or so. Here is the example from duke. Other sites also have it. [smooge at bake_neko epylog-1.0.1]$ wget -v http://linux.duke.edu/projects/epylog/download/epylog-1.0.1.tar.gz --14:58:40-- http://linux.duke.edu/projects/epylog/download/epylog-1.0.1.tar.gz => `epylog-1.0.1.tar.gz.4' Resolving linux.duke.edu... 152.3.183.72 Connecting to linux.duke.edu[152.3.183.72]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: B,446,744,069,414,705,096 [application/x-gzip] [ <=> ] 1,147 --.--K/s 14:58:41 (10.94 MB/s) - `epylog-1.0.1.tar.gz.4' saved [1,147/1,147]) Doing an strace didnt show anything troublesome.. just a get and then nothing. -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From dcbw at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 21:04:39 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:04:39 -0400 Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> <34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: <1096319079.9861.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 14:31 -0500, Richard Houston wrote: > The issue here on FC2 is that openoffice, I assume, has been setup to use > libgnomeprint and or talks to the cups printer directly. I an not sure. I > have symlinked the lpr in /usr/bin to kprinter but openoffice still uses > it's internal printer setup. This setup does not allow openoffice to > access the advanced features of the printers such as duplex printing and > alternative paper trays from a standard user. OOo gets its config info directly from CUPS. Therefore, if there is a deficiency, its in your printer's PPD file. For example, if right now I select an HP LaserJet 2100N, and hit Print, then Properties, there is even a Duplex option in a drop-down in that tab. There is also a Paper Tray option. So the moral is, there's no spadmin because its a duplication of functionality. If the option is not there, its not in your PPD. If the option is a "software" option provided by some other program, then print to PostScript and do whatever with it. If the option _is_ in OOo's Printer Properties dialog, and you choose it and it doesn't work, only then is it a bug and it should be filed... NOTE: these directions are for the OOo 1.1.2 packages. These will be pushed to FC2-Updates quite soon. I know that the Properties button doesn't really do anything in the 1.1.1-4, that should be fixed with the update once it gets through. Dan From dcbw at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 21:06:34 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:06:34 -0400 Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <34392.24.77.172.251.1096316113.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> <1096314511.9861.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <34392.24.77.172.251.1096316113.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: <1096319194.9861.16.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Ok; but for the reasons I outline in my other email to this thread that's not going to be supported. I realize there were deficiencies in the FC2 version of OOo that are soon to be rectified, and hopefully you won't _need_ to force OOo print jobs through KPrinter or any other program than CUPS. This isn't anything against kprinter, just that you should not need any external program at all (with the update soon to come). Cheers, Dan On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 15:15 -0500, Richard Houston wrote: > I want to force my print jobs to kprinter for the advance printer function > that I can not access with the current print system in openoffice. > > If I can not move from lpr to kprinter with the FC2 OO how can I remove > the libgnomeprint stuff from openoffice all together? I would like to > still have all the niceties like the icons in FC2 and the nice fonts. > > All I really want to do is force my print jobs to kprinter from OO if > there is another way please let me know. I am open to suggestions. > > > > > Regards, > +------------------------------------------+ > | Richard Houston .^. | > | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | > | E-Mail /( )\ | > | WWW ^^-^^ | > +------------------------------------------+ > > Dan Williams said: > > spadmin (Star Printer Admin) is the utility from OOo that allows you to > > add printers or PDF converters or Fax printers to OOo. This tool was > > present until the CUPS integration was added to OOo. > > > > What do you need it for? > > > > Dan > > > > On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 20:57 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > >> man, 27.09.2004 kl. 20.51 skrev Richard Houston: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > I have a need to have the OpenOffice spadmin util available for my > >> users > >> > on a FC2 terminal server. Is there a way to add it back into the > >> > openoffice rpm? > >> > > >> > I have tried commenting out the part of the spec file that removed the > >> > directories related to the spadmin util and that works but when you > >> try to > >> > run the util it complains about a missing lib. > >> > > >> > So in short I would like to use the rpm exactly as found on an FC2 > >> system > >> > but have access to the spadmin and supporting libs. > >> > > >> > Any insight or comment would be greatly appreciated. > >> > > >> > If nothing else does anyone know who I could email about this? > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance. > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > +------------------------------------------+ > >> > | Richard Houston .^. | > >> > | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | > >> > | E-Mail /( )\ | > >> > | WWW ^^-^^ | > >> > +------------------------------------------+ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> I am also running a terminal server off fedora - but what is spadmin? > >> > >> > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Mon Sep 27 21:16:23 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:16:23 +0200 Subject: wget problem? In-Reply-To: <80d7e40904092713594ab19d9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d7e40904092713594ab19d9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040927231623.2b3a1412.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:59:25 -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > I am trying to figure out if this is a problem in wget or something > else in FC3T2 > > I try to download various src.rpm and I only get a small part of the > data before wget exits after getting about 1147 bytes or so. Here is > the example from duke. Other sites also have it. > > [smooge at bake_neko epylog-1.0.1]$ wget -v > http://linux.duke.edu/projects/epylog/download/epylog-1.0.1.tar.gz > --14:58:40-- http://linux.duke.edu/projects/epylog/download/epylog-1.0.1.tar.gz > => `epylog-1.0.1.tar.gz.4' > Resolving linux.duke.edu... 152.3.183.72 > Connecting to linux.duke.edu[152.3.183.72]:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: B,446,744,069,414,705,096 [application/x-gzip] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Looks very wrong. Could be related to >2GB file support fixes. But I cannot reproduce it with your test URL and the original wget-1.9.1-13 from FC3T2. -- Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) - Linux 2.6.8-1.541 loadavg: 1.93 1.51 1.23 From varanava at takas.lt Mon Sep 27 23:19:26 2004 From: varanava at takas.lt (Andrius) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:19:26 +0100 Subject: Didn't get answer Message-ID: <001901c4a4e8$6e541a70$0608020a@agraphic> Hello, I didn't get answer to my question. Is it problem unclear or unknown? In installation process of Fedora Core 3 test 2 for AMD64 I got such bug message "Bug: Assertion (heads > 0) at disk_dos.c:471 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed." (after keyboard configuration). If I press cancel I can go through other steps, but when I got the same message when it is time to copy packages to disk and installation stops. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at ascendency.net Mon Sep 27 21:24:20 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:24:20 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 No sound Message-ID: <200409272126.i8RLQEm90327@fat_man.ascendency.net> FC1 I had sound. FC2 I had sound but it was barely audible. FC3T2 I have no sound at all. I have turned up everything in the sound control box and made sue my sound is unmuted. I have an inspiron7000. Below is contents of dmesg Linux version 2.6.8-1.541 (bhcompile at porky.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.1 20040831 (Red Hat 3.4.1-10)) #1 Wed Sep 1 18:01:20 EDT 2004 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009f800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000eb800 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000014000000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000fffeb800 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 320MB LOWMEM available. zapping low mappings. On node 0 totalpages: 81920 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 77824 pages, LIFO batch:16 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI not present. ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb mapped 4G/4G trampoline to ffff4000. Initializing CPU#0 CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=023c6000 soft=023c5000 PID hash table entries: 2048 (order 11: 16384 bytes) Detected 300.108 MHz processor. Using tsc for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Memory: 320400k/327680k available (2024k kernel code, 6780k reserved, 631k data, 144k init, 0k highmem) Calibrating delay loop... 589.82 BogoMIPS (lpj=294912) Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Capability LSM initialized as secondary Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 512K CPU: After all inits, caps: 0183f1ff 00000000 00000000 00000040 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 02 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. ACPI: System description tables not found ACPI-0084: *** Error: acpi_load_tables: Could not get RSDP, AE_NOT_FOUND ACPI-0134: *** Error: acpi_load_tables: Could not load tables: AE_NOT_FOUND ACPI: Unable to load the System Description Tables checking if image is initramfs... it is Freeing initrd memory: 572k freed NET: Registered protocol family 16 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9d3, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040715 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) get_random_bytes called before random driver initialization PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX/ICH [8086/7110] at 0000:00:07.0 PCI: IRQ 0 for device 0000:00:04.0 doesn't match PIRQ mask - try pci=usepirqmask PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:04.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:01:00.0 PCI: IRQ 0 for device 0000:00:04.1 doesn't match PIRQ mask - try pci=usepirqmask PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:04.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:03.0 get_random_bytes called before random driver initialization vesafb: probe of vesafb0 failed with error -6 apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac) audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) audit(1096238419.577:0): initialized Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks Initializing Cryptographic API ksign: Installing public key data Loading keyring - Added public key EB180CB126A51024 - User ID: Red Hat, Inc. (Kernel Module GPG key) Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers. pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones agpgart: Detected an Intel 440BX Chipset. agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 263M agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe0000000 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing enabled ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device lo Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:07.1 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfcd0-0xfcd7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfcd8-0xfcdf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: ST92011A, ATA DISK drive Using cfq io scheduler ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: TORiSAN DVD-ROM DRD-U624, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Probing IDE interface ide2... ide2: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide3... ide3: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide4... ide4: Wait for ready failed before probe ! Probing IDE interface ide5... ide5: Wait for ready failed before probe ! hda: max request size: 1024KiB hda: 39070080 sectors (20003 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33) hda: cache flushes supported hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hdc: ATAPI DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache, UDMA(33) Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide usbcore: registered new driver hiddev usbcore: registered new driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1 Firmware: 4.3 180 degree mounted touchpad Sensor: 8 new absolute packet format input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio1 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 1024 buckets, 32Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 9362) Initializing IPsec netlink socket NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 17 Freeing unused kernel memory: 144k freed kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. inserting floppy driver for 2.6.8-1.541 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device 0000:00:08.0 es1968: not attempting power management. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed. es1968: clocking to 48000 USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:07.2 uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: irq 11, io base 0000fce0 uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2 Linux Kernel Card Services options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:04.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:01:00.0 Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:00:04.0 [1028:0085] Yenta: Enabling burst memory read transactions Yenta: Using CSCINT to route CSC interrupts to PCI Yenta: Routing CardBus interrupts to PCI Yenta TI: socket 0000:00:04.0, mfunc 0x01021c12, devctl 0x66 Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0698, PCI irq 11 Socket status: 30000059 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:04.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:03.0 Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:00:04.1 [1028:0085] Yenta: Using CSCINT to route CSC interrupts to PCI Yenta: Routing CardBus interrupts to PCI Yenta TI: socket 0000:00:04.1, mfunc 0x01021c12, devctl 0x66 Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0698, PCI irq 11 Socket status: 30000006 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. NET: Registered protocol family 10 Disabled Privacy Extensions on device 02359760(lo) IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device sit0 EXT3 FS on hda2, internal journal device-mapper: 4.1.0-ioctl (2003-12-10) initialised: dm at uk.sistina.com cdrom: open failed. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Adding 650624k swap on /dev/hda3. Priority:-1 extents:1 IA-32 Microcode Update Driver: v1.14 microcode: CPU0 updated from revision 0x15 to 0x2d, date = 05181999 parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE] parport0: irq 7 detected ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team ip_conntrack version 2.1 (2560 buckets, 20480 max) - 388 bytes per conntrack cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. orinoco 0.13e (David Gibson , Pavel Roskin , et al) orinoco_cs 0.13e (David Gibson , Pavel Roskin , et al) divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: Station identity 001f:0002:0001:0004 eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 1.4.2 eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key eth0: MAC address 00:06:25:15:FD:96 eth0: Station name "Prism I" eth0: ready eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x013f eth0: Error -110 setting multicast list. eth0: Error -110 setting multicast list. eth0: Error -110 setting multicast list. eth0: New link status: Connected (0001) eth0: New link status: Disconnected (0002) eth0: New link status: Connected (0001) eth0: New link status: AP Changed (0003) eth0: no IPv6 routers present parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE] parport0: irq 7 detected lp0: using parport0 (polling). lp0: console ready cisco_ipsec: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device cipsec0 Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.6.00 (0045) kernel module loaded spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. application firefox-bin uses obsolete OSS audio interface CIFS VFS: Error connecting to IPv4 socket. Aborting operation CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 eth0: New link status: AP Out of Range (0004) eth0: New link status: AP In Range (0005) eth0: Error -110 writing Tx descriptor to BAP eth0: Error -110 writing Tx descriptor to BAP eth0: Error -110 writing Tx descriptor to BAP eth0: Error -110 writing Tx descriptor to BAP eth0: New link status: Disconnected (0002) eth0: New link status: Connected (0001) eth0: New link status: AP Out of Range (0004) eth0: New link status: AP In Range (0005) eth0: New link status: Disconnected (0002) eth0: New link status: Connected (0001) eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. eth0: Information frame lost. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Mon Sep 27 21:41:57 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:41:57 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 No sound In-Reply-To: <200409272126.i8RLQEm90327@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409272126.i8RLQEm90327@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <20040927234157.0fd01d89.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:24:20 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > FC1 I had sound. > FC2 I had sound but it was barely audible. > FC3T2 I have no sound at all. > > I have turned up everything in the sound control box and made sue my sound > is unmuted. What about alsamixer? And what audio application(s) do you use for testing? -- Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) - Linux 2.6.8-1.541 loadavg: 2.22 1.75 1.57 From janina at rednote.net Mon Sep 27 21:44:25 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:44:25 -0400 Subject: Yum --exclude broken? In-Reply-To: <1096225106.32521.10.camel@binkley> References: <20040926174532.GA381@rednote.net> <1096225106.32521.10.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <20040927214425.GA22013@rednote.net> seth vidal writes: > On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 13:45 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > I'm suddenly unable to update/upgrade with yum. Seems mozilla has been > > marked at version 37 in one of the repos. > > > > So, no problem, I say to mmyself, and issue: > > > > yum --exclude epiphany update > > > > but to no avail. So, is it yum, or something I'm doing wrong? Anyone > > else get anything similar? > > > > With yum-2.1.3-1 > > > > Reading repository metadata in from local files > > core : ################################################## 2593/2593 > > core : ################################################## 2593/2593 > > dag : ################################################## 2743/2743 > > freshrpms : ################################################## 416/416 > > updates : ################################################## 603/603 > > Excluding Packages > > Finished > > Excluding Incompatible Archs > > Finished > > Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux 2 - x86_64 - core > > Excluding Packages from Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core > > Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux 2 - x86_64 - freshrpms > > Excluding Packages from Fedora Linux 2 - x86_64 - updates > > Resolving Dependencies > > Error: missing dep: mozilla for pkg epiphany > > Epiphany isn't being updated, mozilla is. > > yum --exclude=mozilla\* update > Yes, indeed, and thank you. So, it's just bad English? i.e. "for pkg" is just backwards? > -sv > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 From smooge at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 21:46:15 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:46:15 -0600 Subject: Thunderbird (missing enigmail) Message-ID: <80d7e4090409271446278d0adc@mail.gmail.com> Hi, we have been using enigmail with the thunderbird for some of our work.. I was wondering why it had been removed from the latest thunderbird and would it be put back at some point? -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From vicky at steeds.com Mon Sep 27 21:57:04 2004 From: vicky at steeds.com (Vicky Staubly) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Unable to allocate tty? Message-ID: I've looked through the archives, but don't see anything quite the same. I've got a new machine running FC3T1 (I'll be upgrading to FC3T2 soon), and once in a while, I'll log in via ssh only to be told that it couldn't allocate a tty. It does give me a shell, but seems to be in "raw mode" (no echo, ^J to enter command, etc.) and "stty sane" doesn't work since it says "stdin isn't a tty". Any ideas? Sound like a known bug? -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/ vicky at steeds.com great web hosting http://www.steedshosting.net/ vstaubly at steedshosting.net From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Sep 27 22:05:48 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:05:48 -0400 Subject: Yum --exclude broken? In-Reply-To: <20040927214425.GA22013@rednote.net> References: <20040926174532.GA381@rednote.net> <1096225106.32521.10.camel@binkley> <20040927214425.GA22013@rednote.net> Message-ID: <1096322748.31742.42.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> > > > > Epiphany isn't being updated, mozilla is. > > > > yum --exclude=mozilla\* update > > > Yes, indeed, and thank you. > > So, it's just bad English? i.e. "for pkg" is just backwards? Well, not really. it's accurate the version of mozilla that epiphany is missing. -sv From rhouston at rlhc.net Mon Sep 27 22:08:58 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:08:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <1096319079.9861.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre><34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096319079.9861.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <34665.24.77.172.251.1096322938.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> > OOo gets its config info directly from CUPS. Therefore, if there is a > deficiency, its in your printer's PPD file. For example, if right now I > select an HP LaserJet 2100N, and hit Print, then Properties, there is > even a Duplex option in a drop-down in that tab. There is also a Paper > Tray option. We have the correct PPD's installed. But the properties button does not do anything like you suggest. > > So the moral is, there's no spadmin because its a duplication of > functionality. If the option is not there, its not in your PPD. If the > option is a "software" option provided by some other program, then print > to PostScript and do whatever with it. If the option _is_ in OOo's > Printer Properties dialog, and you choose it and it doesn't work, only > then is it a bug and it should be filed... Nope these are all options in the ppd files but once again the properties button does nothing hence the move to kprinter which does allow us access to all the functions. > > NOTE: these directions are for the OOo 1.1.2 packages. These will be > pushed to FC2-Updates quite soon. I know that the Properties button > doesn't really do anything in the 1.1.1-4, that should be fixed with the > update once it gets through. > Well as we are running OO 1.1.1 supplied by FC2 this might be the issue. Do we know when these updates will be available? Is there a testing version I could get my hands on to start testing with? Thanks for you help Dan. Appreciate it. > Dan > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From smooge at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 22:38:37 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:38:37 -0600 Subject: wget problem? In-Reply-To: <20040927231623.2b3a1412.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <80d7e40904092713594ab19d9a@mail.gmail.com> <20040927231623.2b3a1412.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <80d7e409040927153876c567de@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:16:23 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:59:25 -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > > I am trying to figure out if this is a problem in wget or something > > else in FC3T2 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Looks very wrong. Could be related to >2GB file support fixes. > But I cannot reproduce it with your test URL and the original > wget-1.9.1-13 from FC3T2. > Ok I have the latest in rawhide.. so it must have crept in since then. [smooge at bake_neko ~]$ rpm -q wget wget-1.9.1-16 * Thu Sep 16 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.9.1-16 - more fixes * Tue Sep 14 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.9.1-15 - added strtol fix from Leonid Petrov, reenable LFS * Tue Sep 14 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.9.1-14 - buildrequires gettext (#132519) * Wed Sep 01 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.9.1-13 - disable LFS patch for now, it breaks normal downloads (123524#c15) I wonder if LFS got put back in? -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu Mon Sep 27 22:38:20 2004 From: kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu (Kevin H. Hobbs) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:38:20 -0400 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 13:53 -0400, ne... wrote: > On Sep 25, 2004 at 21:35, N.A. in a soothing rage wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >I can't find the kernel-source package on the FC3T2 CDs or the > >download web site? There is a kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm. I installed > >it but there is nothing at /usr/src? > Mor will there be one for the forseeable future. Numerous threads > in fedora-devel detail this. There is no need to ship the same > thing twice. The src.rpm contains all you need. An 'rpm -qlp' > should list the kernel source tarbol, the patches in the src.rpm > and the .spec file. 'man rpm' and 'man rpmbuild' should give > you all the pointers you need. > > N.Emile... > -- > Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) > Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 > Q: What's tiny and yellow and very, very, dangerous? > A: A canary with the super-user password. > 13:49:36 up 89 days, 7:04, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > I spent the whole afternoon searching the archives of this list and the development list and I couldn't find a useful discussion that describes the building of a custom kernel as a user. I did find many flame wars though. I also see that there is an open bug on bugzilla asking for documentation on exactly this. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=130754 I figure it might be useful and I plan to TRY and participate in the documentation on this. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is pretty dire English however ;) From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 23:03:20 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:03:20 -0400 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <604aa79104092716039a2917b@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:38:20 -0400, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: > I spent the whole afternoon searching the archives of this list and the > development list and I couldn't find a useful discussion that describes > the building of a custom kernel as a user. I did find many flame wars > though. Gmail search to the rescue!!!!! Sept 22 fedora-devel-list Subject: what's happened to the kernel-sourcecode RPM From: Arjan van de Ven rpm -i kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm rpmbuild -bp --target noarch /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec and the sourcecode will end up in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD I would STRONGLY suggest creating your own .rpmmacros file before doing any src.rpm installation so you can define an rpm staging area in your user's home directory instead of being root user and using /usr/src/redhat/ for the src.rpm operations. -jef"literally took me 30 seconds to find the instructions"spaleta From alan at redhat.com Mon Sep 27 23:03:23 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:03:23 -0400 Subject: Didn't get answer In-Reply-To: <001901c4a4e8$6e541a70$0608020a@agraphic> References: <001901c4a4e8$6e541a70$0608020a@agraphic> Message-ID: <20040927230323.GE3161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 12:19:26AM +0100, Andrius wrote: > I didn't get answer to my question. Is it problem unclear or unknown? In installation process of Fedora Core 3 test 2 for AMD64 I got such bug message "Bug: Assertion (heads > 0) at disk_dos.c:471 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed." (after keyboard configuration). If I press cancel I can go through other steps, but when I got the same message when it is time to copy packages to disk and installation stops. > -- Can yo describe your disk setup ? From cylon at streamyx.com Mon Sep 27 23:33:22 2004 From: cylon at streamyx.com (Mazli Alias) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:33:22 +0800 Subject: Latin fonts in qt b0rked In-Reply-To: <20040927134856.1b2d4624.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> <20040927134856.1b2d4624.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <4158A342.2080106@streamyx.com> Michael Schwendt wrote: >On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:15:02 -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > > > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133578 >> >>Is anybody *NOT* seeing this problem? Our qt maintainer is unable to >>reproduce the problem while everyone else I've asked sees it. Perhaps >>more feedback will help us to isolate the cause, or at least a way to >>reproduce it. >> >> > >Don't see it here. But I don't track Rawhide on this machine and >just upgraded fontconfig. > >$ rpm -q qt fontconfig >qt-3.3.3-5 >fontconfig-2.2.3-4 > > > LANG="en_US.UTF-8" SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en" SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16" qt-3.3.3-5 qt-3.3.3-5 fontconfig-2.2.3-4 fontconfig-2.2.3-4 I'm on AMD64..the problem still persist...happened after some up2date..not after first post install. From kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu Mon Sep 27 23:41:04 2004 From: kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu (Kevin H. Hobbs) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:41:04 -0400 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <604aa79104092716039a2917b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <604aa79104092716039a2917b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096328464.14962.23.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 19:03 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:38:20 -0400, Kevin H. Hobbs > wrote: > > I spent the whole afternoon searching the archives of this list and the > > development list and I couldn't find a useful discussion that describes > > the building of a custom kernel as a user. I did find many flame wars > > though. > > Gmail search to the rescue!!!!! > -jef"literally took me 30 seconds to find the instructions"spaleta > Damn google failed me. I did every google search under the sun. 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In-Reply-To: <20040927225934.GC3161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040926174532.GA381@rednote.net> <1096225106.32521.10.camel@binkley> <20040927214425.GA22013@rednote.net> <1096322748.31742.42.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040927225934.GC3161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096330851.17073.5.camel@binkley> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 18:59 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 06:05:48PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > So, it's just bad English? i.e. "for pkg" is just backwards? > > > > Well, not really. it's accurate the version of mozilla that epiphany is > > missing. > > It is pretty dire English however ;) I can enhance the messages to tell which package is installed and which is attempting to be installed. -sv From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Sep 28 00:36:07 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:36:07 -0400 Subject: GRUB failure after FC3t2 and/or rawhide install Message-ID: <20040928003607.GA17979@wolves.durham.nc.us> I got my test machine back from the folks I lent it to, and started to install rawhide onto the wiped disks. All seems to go well until the reboot after installation. All I get is GRUB and nothing else. Okay, boot rescue mode and see if theres anything to do. grub-install complains about missing devices. Hmmmm. Retreat to FC3t2 install....... same problem. Hmmmm. Retreating to FC3t1, still waiting for the install to finish, that *will* work, and then I'll do an "upgrade" to rawhide and see what happens. Is this the udev andor initrd bugs that have been discussed? tembo: AMD K6/2 @ 400MHz 320MB RAM Asus P5A-B motherboard 16.9GB hda 20GB hdb Verbatim CD-ROM tulip PCI eth0 (for the moment the 3c509 is out) no SCSI at the moment (fdomain is out of box) HTTP install from the local mirror is working fine. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm > going to TRY an idiots guide to building a custom kernel in fedora. Or > at least a journal. Any links will be useful I'm sure. Actually I'm doing pretty much the same thing as Jef is- all of my list traffic is going to my gmail account, with 1GB storage that is easily doable for a longish while. The neat bit is that gmail effectively allows one to google one's own email... That alone makes gmail worth having. Bests Jon From mister.ribbit at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 01:10:26 2004 From: mister.ribbit at gmail.com (Mister Ribbit) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:10:26 -0700 Subject: Sound card not detected -- Intel HD Audio In-Reply-To: <1096305869.28679.12.camel@kyrre> References: <1096305869.28679.12.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: > It will help if you say what kind of soundcard is built into it. All I know about the card is what the motherboard page says: Intel? High Definition Audio subsystem using the Realtek ALC860 audio codec. I believe the relevant piece of a lspci -v is: 00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device e200 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 169 Memory at ffa3c000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [130] Unknown (5) In case that isn't the relavant part, the whole thing follows: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 915G/P/GV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 04) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 915G/P/GV PCI Express Root Port (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: ff300000-ff3fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: bf900000-bf9fffff Capabilities: [88] #0d [0000] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [a0] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [140] Unknown (5) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 169 Memory at ffa80000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] I/O ports at ec00 [size=8] Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at ffa40000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K] Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device e200 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 169 Memory at ffa3c000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [130] Unknown (5) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=05, subordinate=05, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: ff700000-ff7fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000bfd00000-00000000bfd00000 Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [90] #0d [0000] Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: ff600000-ff6fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000bfc00000-00000000bfc00000 Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [90] #0d [0000] Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: ff500000-ff5fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000bfb00000-00000000bfb00000 Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [90] #0d [0000] Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: ff400000-ff4fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000bfa00000-00000000bfa00000 Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [90] #0d [0000] Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 201 I/O ports at c800 [size=32] 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 193 I/O ports at cc00 [size=32] 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 185 I/O ports at d000 [size=32] 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 169 I/O ports at d400 [size=32] 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 201 Memory at ffa3bc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] Debug port 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d3) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=06, subordinate=06, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: 0000b000-0000bfff Memory behind bridge: ff800000-ff8fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000bfe00000-00000000bfe00000 Capabilities: [50] #0d [0000] 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 185 I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16] 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO]) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 193 I/O ports at e800 [size=8] I/O ports at e400 [size=4] I/O ports at e000 [size=8] I/O ports at dc00 [size=4] I/O ports at d800 [size=16] Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 2 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4556 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 193 I/O ports at c400 [size=32] 06:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 1064 (rev 01) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 3061 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 209 Memory at ff8ff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at bc00 [size=64] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 From fedora at andrewfarris.com Tue Sep 28 01:27:13 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:27:13 -0700 Subject: Didn't get answer In-Reply-To: <20040927230323.GE3161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <001901c4a4e8$6e541a70$0608020a@agraphic> <20040927230323.GE3161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096334833.4237.34.camel@CirithUngol> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 19:03 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 12:19:26AM +0100, Andrius wrote: > > I didn't get answer to my question. Is it problem unclear or unknown? > In installation process of Fedora Core 3 test 2 for AMD64 I got such bug > message "Bug: Assertion (heads > 0) at disk_dos.c:471 in function > probe_partition_for_geom() failed." (after keyboard configuration). > If I press cancel I can go through other steps, but when I got the same > message when it is time to copy packages to disk and installation stops. > > -- > > Can yo describe your disk setup ? For background I'll explain mine because I also saw this message on my P4 machine. It only happened when I had used fdisk to modify the partition table after Anaconda was running (via vt2). The message was displayed when Disk Druid configuration, not before (at keyboard conf). I manually deleted and created new partitions inside an existing extended partition which previously housed FC2 (in rawhide form), using fdisk just prior to Disk Druid in Anaconda. FC2 fdisk had created the previous partitions inside the extended, however Windows XP SP1 had created the extended partition itself. Now the new partitions created with FC3t2 fdisk caused the assertion failure. I could not proceed with the installation without this error until I removed the fdisk created partitions used manual Disk Druid instead (a reboot was also necessary for geometry to be re-read). In the below setup, /dev/hdb5 was not deleted in the reformat and reinstall to FC3t2 (which is why it is now displayed out of disk order). The extended partition was left as is during the whole process. -#-> fdisk /dev/hdb -l Disk /dev/hdb: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 1 263 2112516 b W95 FAT32 /dev/hdb2 264 3657 27262305 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hdb3 3658 4865 9703260 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hdb5 3214 3657 3566398+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb6 * 264 271 64197 83 Linux /dev/hdb7 272 666 3172806 83 Linux /dev/hdb8 667 1074 3277228+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb9 1075 1208 1076323+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hdb10 1209 3213 16105131 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order Apparently, the fdisk and disk druid results varied enough to cause this error.. or perhaps it was due to using fdisk while anaconda may have already checked disk geometry for disk druid? This has not been an issue previously. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Tue Sep 28 01:37:36 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:37:36 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> Jeff Spaleta wrote: >On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:10:36 +0200, Lars wrote: > >If nvidia and composite is working for you. Can you add comments to >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133679 > > >-jef > > > > Works fine for myself. I updated the bug report with the log file from xorg. Dwaine. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Tue Sep 28 01:38:26 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:38:26 -0400 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <1096303590.4835.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040927005822.GC22107@realify.com> <1096269399.3371.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040927162059.GB25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1096303590.4835.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4158C092.1060205@rogers.com> David Zeuthen wrote: >On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:20 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > >>David Zeuthen (david at fubar.dk) said: >> >> >>>Suggest that >>> >>> KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot%e" >>> >>>is better so we can handle multiple devices (the %e modifier for >>>'enumerate' is rather new, see the udev man page for details). >>> >>>It's not perfect though, because this will also create these symlinks >>>for non-PDA devices such as USB-to-serial devices. >>> >>>One thing is the fact that /dev/pilot, or /dev/pilot1 symlink appear, we >>>can probably live with this, another one is the console gains read/write >>>rights. I'm not sure this is a huge problem though, but there might be >>>threat scenarios? >>> >>> >>We could do matching based on vendor/device IDs, surely? >> >> >> > >Indeed; you'll end up with a lot of udev rules though. I'm not sure >where the all the vendor/product ID's would come from though. > >David > > > > > ubs.ids... ??? It's a good start.. Dwaine. From an037-0m26i at yahoo.com Tue Sep 28 00:41:35 2004 From: an037-0m26i at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:41:35 -0500 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 In-Reply-To: <20040927161909.GA25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> <41528CCB.4080307@redhat.com> <1095940027.3323.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <4153A50F.3050700@yahoo.com> <4153EB01.10006@redhat.com> <20040924163653.GB12006@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <4157D6AA.7030809@redhat.com> <20040927161909.GA25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4158B33F.2060900@yahoo.com> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Harald Hoyer (harald at redhat.com) said: > >>>sg isn't used for generic SG access... SG_IO can be used on the >>>device itself. >> >>so, what is it for now? > > > I came in late to the discussion - what specifically is erroring out? > > Bill SCSI devices which are not hard drives don't work. Their entries are not made in /dev by initrd. /dev entries can be made manually, but disappear after reboot. It worked long ago, in kernel build 534 days, with whatever version of udev, etc., got bundled into 534's initrd. (Perhaps that version of whatever didn't delete /dev entries?) The OP saw it with a SCSI DVD-ROM. I see it with a SCSI CD-R. Build 541 is just as guilty as 584. I see other probably-SCSI problems (gnome-cd/cdp/cdplay no longer likes CDAs), too, but first things first. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Tue Sep 28 01:45:52 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:45:52 -0400 Subject: NVIDIA drivers In-Reply-To: <41587597.70309@hpcf.upr.edu> References: <7765304D6601F948916FDCB9AD3878EE39728C@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> <41587597.70309@hpcf.upr.edu> Message-ID: <4158C250.5030407@rogers.com> Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > Nave, Ronald wrote: > >> As of my latest update to FC3-test2 on 9/27/2004 , The >> NVIDIA-Linux-1.0-6111 driver still does not load properly on start up. >> >> >> > If I'm not mistaken, this problem (no driver autoloading) is caused > by the changed to udev. I think they are working on this. > >> It is necessary to run the installation program each time the machine is >> booted. >> >> > You should only need to re-run the nvidia installer after a kernel > upgrade. > >> Also it is necessary to run /sbin/modprobe nvidia manually to >> get the >> nvidia module to load. >> >> Once the installation process is repeated X windows will respond to >> startx and the machine >> runs OK. >> >> > Workaround #1 > > modify /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit where it says > echo -n $"Initializing hardware... " > > ide="" > scsi="" > network="" > audio="" > other="nvidia" <--- add this > > Pros: rhgb will use the nvidia driver (which is kind of useless) > Cons: upgrading the initscript package may remove the modification. > > Workaround #2 > > now rhgb accepts an alternate configuration file (/etc/rhgb/xorg.conf ) > so now you can use the safe x.org driver "nv" for rhgb > > and call "modprobe nvidia" from /etc/rc.d/rc.local > > Pros: rhgb will use the x.org driver, upgrading initscript will not > change the setting > Con: a little more work > >> It also appears that up2date and yum are not working properly. >> >> Both yum and up2date will startup , but they are so slow that they are >> nearly useless. >> >> For some reason I can use Mozilla and go directly to the yum mirror >> server >> and then manually download the new RPM files using FTP and then install >> using rpm -Uvh *.rpm. >> >> Perhaps there are so many people updating that yum and up2date can not >> handle the load. >> > I also experienced some connection problem a few days ago while trying > to upgrade (rawhide) using both yum and up2date. I tried a few hours > later and it worked fine, so I ssume was a connection problem on my > side. But now that you mention it, I did download RPMS from the > repository using the browser....weird. > > -- > Ricardo Veguilla > > You are right. It's the udev stuff working. I had to compile the binary drivers twice to get xorg to fire up. It's seems that the nvidia0 and nvidiactl get removed from /dev when the computer is rebooted. The only way is to load the driver manually or put references in rc.local and create them on every reboot. Here is my copy rc.local. #!/bin/sh # # This script will be executed *after* all the other init scripts. # You can put your own initialization stuff in here if you don't # want to do the full Sys V style init stuff. touch /var/lock/subsys/local mknod /dev/nvidia0 c 195 0 mknod /dev/nvidiactl c 195 255 chmod 666 /dev/nvidia0 /dev/nvidiactl From an037-0m26i at yahoo.com Tue Sep 28 00:46:48 2004 From: an037-0m26i at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:46:48 -0500 Subject: no /dev/nst0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4158B478.3070401@yahoo.com> Neal D. Becker wrote: > My scsi tape used to be /dev/nst0, now it doesn't seem to have been created. Same problem as "SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584" Anything SCSI that's not a hard drive doesn't get created in /dev. -- Allen Kistler From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Tue Sep 28 01:51:30 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:51:30 -0400 Subject: no /dev/nst0 In-Reply-To: <4158B478.3070401@yahoo.com> References: <4158B478.3070401@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4158C3A2.20604@rogers.com> Allen Kistler wrote: > Neal D. Becker wrote: > >> My scsi tape used to be /dev/nst0, now it doesn't seem to have been >> created. > > > Same problem as "SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel > 2.6.8-1.584" > > Anything SCSI that's not a hard drive doesn't get created in /dev. > At least everyone is giving udev a good testing... 8*) Dwaine. From jgeorgeson at lopht.net Tue Sep 28 01:54:44 2004 From: jgeorgeson at lopht.net (Justin Georgeson) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:54:44 -0500 Subject: i810 rehash and dell inspiron 2600 In-Reply-To: <41576280.5080002@sbcglobal.net> References: <4156323B.20206@lopht.net> <41576280.5080002@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4158C464.5020909@lopht.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Justin Georgeson wrote: > >> As an interesting note, Dell Inspiron 2600 laptops must stay at BIOS >> revision A08 or lower or this chipset will not work at all in any >> Linux distribution. >> >> What are the differences between the xorg i810 driver (is the upstream >> fixed one in the FC3 xorg 6.8.0 packages?) and the Intel one? The >> latest version from Intel was released in June of this year and the >> README tells how to configure dual-head support. Has anyone installed >> it (I haven't been able to build it so far on FC3T2 or Suse 9.1)? >> > > With a Dell computer that has an 828 656 Graphics controller, the driver > has changes that make the server solid vs. previous version of X. The > pre-CVS versions would totally crash X and leave whatever visual > representations were on the display present. X itself would not be in > the process list. I seem to recall that this GC identifies itself as an > 845 GC. I did a search for the specs for your laptop. It came back with > information that it uses the 830 chipset. Therefore, if it acts like the > 845, it should work better with the CVS version. If it acts more like > the 815, you are out of luck. > > Regarding dual head support. I tried this for the 815 GC and had a bit > of trouble. This was with another troubled video card, so the results > were pretty useless. (Lockups and other things) > > As a note on BIOS for the Dell, I had to upgrade BIOS from A03 to A04. > > I have not tried the Intel driver version. Is this more capable than the > xorg-x11 version? Any different features besides dual-head? > I haven't been able to get it to compile yet, I have an open ticket with their support department about it. I did find out that the Intel driver relies on the BIOS implementation for supported resolutions. So if the BIOS isn't set up to support 1450x resolution (I forget the other number in that res, just recall a bunch of people mentioning it) than the Intel driver won't either. So in that respect, the OSS driver seems to have the upper hand. ---- begin tangential rant which is not on-topic with the list ---- sorry I made a post on Dell's forums (forums.us.dell.com) about having to revert my BIOS version to get the chip working. I relayed my complaint that Dell is intentionally impairing their BIOS implementation, as the Intel reference design, and indeed the BIOS on their own motherboards supports setting the stolen memory for proper linux support. The word petition was used, only to find out that Dell's forum considers that word to be profane. Another user apparently took that to heart and started a thread under a different topic (again on Dell's forums) about censoring the word petition. That thread has been summarily deleted due to violation of the TOS. That's Dell's right, but it certainly speaks volumes about how they respond to valid criticism. I hope others will join me in deciding to avoid Dell computers in the future due to their ambivalence towards customers. -- ; Justin Georgeson ; "Free the mallocs, delete the news" ; http://www.openoffice.org ; http://www.boycott-riaa.com ; http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=9559016 From dcbw at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 02:13:10 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <34665.24.77.172.251.1096322938.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre><34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096319079.9861.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <34665.24.77.172.251.1096322938.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Richard Houston wrote: > > NOTE: these directions are for the OOo 1.1.2 packages. These will be > > pushed to FC2-Updates quite soon. I know that the Properties button > > doesn't really do anything in the 1.1.1-4, that should be fixed with the > > update once it gets through. > > > > Well as we are running OO 1.1.1 supplied by FC2 this might be the issue. > Do we know when these updates will be available? Is there a testing > version I could get my hands on to start testing with? > > Thanks for you help Dan. Appreciate it. No RPMs yet, but its building on my test box right now. If there are no issues with the build, I hope to be able to stuff it into the build system tomorrow. FC2 is certainly an easier rebuild than FC1 due to FC1's use of GTK 2.4 (specifically, FC1 doesn't have file dialog). Dan From wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu Tue Sep 28 02:25:37 2004 From: wes at kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (Wes Shull) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:25:37 -0700 Subject: Unable to allocate tty? In-Reply-To: <20040927221051.6BA5473A70@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040927221051.6BA5473A70@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409271925.38953.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Vicky Staubly wrote: > once in a while, I'll log in via ssh only to be told that > it couldn't allocate a tty. Could be related to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127048 and the other bugs referenced in comments on that one. Never did see any official explanation, but the problem seems to have gone away with newer kernel builds. --wes From mike at ascendency.net Tue Sep 28 02:20:21 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:20:21 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 No sound Message-ID: <200409280222.i8S2MFm92709@fat_man.ascendency.net> >> FC1 I had sound. >> FC2 I had sound but it was barely audible. >> FC3T2 I have no sound at all. >> >> I have turned up everything in the sound control box and made sue my sound >> is unmuted. >What about alsamixer? And what audio application(s) do you use for testing? Alsamixer is cranked up all the way. I use xmms to play MP3s. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com Tue Sep 28 02:17:31 2004 From: Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com (Ow Mun Heng) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:17:31 +0800 Subject: Problems with Dell M60 laptop In-Reply-To: <1096018726.16843.14.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> References: <1096018726.16843.14.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> Message-ID: <1096336897.9520.7.camel@neuromancer.home.net> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 17:38, Simon Sedgwick wrote: > Just installed FC3t2 and I'm having all kinds of strange issues: > > 1, Machine is a 2GHz Pentium-M, in the messages log you can see it > keeps adjusting the clock speed between 1.4G and 2G. Speedstep?? > > 2, The broadcom network card (which is now auto detected) run's like a > dog. Meaning?? mii-tool eth0? > 3, I want to install the linuxant driver so I can get my Wi-Fi card to > work (works with FC1) but how to I go about compiling a 16k stack???? Why linuxant? what Wifi card do you own? If it's the intel ones... try ipw2000.sourceforge.net(? url) and ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net (? url) Recompiple your kernel. Make xconfig ans look at the kernel options > 4, Nvidia's driver causing issues too, I don't get any error messages > in the logs but the screen goes black for a second and then comes > back. > > Simon > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Ow Mun Heng Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel 2.6.7-2.jul1-interactive Neuromancer 09:59:55 up 12:22, 6 users, load average: 0.69, 1.35, 1.99 From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Tue Sep 28 02:49:00 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:49:00 -0300 Subject: Results with fc3t2 Message-ID: <1096339740.3289.7.camel@steelgoose.com> Hi, I've installed Fc3t2 today. Installation went through without any problems, except for translation errors (or no translation at all, like ntp settings page). Openoffice.org still lacks pt_BR translation, and we are obligued to use that bizarre pt_PT version (bizarre for brazilians, of course). The default navigator seems to be epiphany... Which several people don't like. Evolution has a strange behaviour regarding the timezone configuration. It won't select the nearest city you click, but the nearest city at the time the mouse cursor leaves the selection window. The cities are also very different from those of anaconda's world map. It didn't detected the SiS video board, and used default vesa driver. Well, that's it for now. -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From neo.andersson at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 02:50:25 2004 From: neo.andersson at gmail.com (N.A.) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:50:25 +0800 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <604aa79104092716039a2917b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <604aa79104092716039a2917b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9753e7de040927195056ada44b@mail.gmail.com> > I would STRONGLY suggest creating your own .rpmmacros file before > doing any src.rpm installation so you can define an rpm staging area > in your user's home directory instead of being root user and using > /usr/src/redhat/ for the src.rpm operations. May I know why? Security reason? From ggw at wolves.homeip.net Tue Sep 28 02:42:31 2004 From: ggw at wolves.homeip.net (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: GRUB failure after FC3t2 and/or rawhide install References: <20040928003607.GA17979@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:36:07 -0400, Gregory shaped electrons to write: > Hmmmm. Retreating to FC3t1, still waiting for the install to finish, > that *will* work, and then I'll do an "upgrade" to rawhide and see what > happens. Humph! FC3t1 failed in the same place. Sooooooooo. Check the BIOS parameters for the disks. Stupid users changed the disk types for some reason, turned off the AUTO modes, etc. That'll teach me to not double check everything before complaining. (Not really) -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From perbj at stanford.edu Tue Sep 28 03:03:13 2004 From: perbj at stanford.edu (Per Bjornsson) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:03:13 -0700 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <9753e7de040927195056ada44b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <604aa79104092716039a2917b@mail.gmail.com> <9753e7de040927195056ada44b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096340593.5106.89.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 19:50, N.A. wrote: > > I would STRONGLY suggest creating your own .rpmmacros file before > > doing any src.rpm installation so you can define an rpm staging area > > in your user's home directory instead of being root user and using > > /usr/src/redhat/ for the src.rpm operations. > > May I know why? Security reason? Exactly. While Arjan's kernel RPMs are unlikely to do anything particularly horrible, spec file bugs can clobber your system if you run rpmbuild as root, and there is really no reason to do so. Thus it just makes more sense to build RPMs as a regular user, and just install them as root. (If you're really anal about it, you can even have a special user for building RPMs, just to make sure that it can't clobber anything important at all.) That way certain packaging errors are not only harmless, they can also easily be seen in the build process. /Per -- Per Bjornsson Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Tue Sep 28 03:10:55 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:10:55 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 No sound In-Reply-To: <200409280222.i8S2MFm92709@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409280222.i8S2MFm92709@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <1096341056.8125.25.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 21:20 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > >> FC1 I had sound. > >> FC2 I had sound but it was barely audible. > >> FC3T2 I have no sound at all. > >> > >> I have turned up everything in the sound control box and made sue my > sound is unmuted. Check if the sound modules are loaded by running "/sbin/lsmod|grep snd" You could run "System Settings->Soundcard Detection", but I don't know if that will help. I have sound but "Soundcard Detection" doesn't detect my soundcard. > >What about alsamixer? And what audio application(s) do you use for testing? > Alsamixer is cranked up all the way. In my experience the only important ones are PCM and the "Master Volume". > I use xmms to play MP3s Check which output plugin xmms is using, it should be using Alsa. If xmms is using the esd plugin, then check if esd is enabled in "Preferences->Sound" [X] Enable sound server startup or just change it to Alsa. -- Ricardo Veguilla From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue Sep 28 03:30:01 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:30:01 +0200 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <1096340593.5106.89.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <604aa79104092716039a2917b@mail.gmail.com> <9753e7de040927195056ada44b@mail.gmail.com> <1096340593.5106.89.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096342197.3257.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mar 28/09/2004 ? 05:03, Per Bjornsson a ?crit : > On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 19:50, N.A. wrote: > > > I would STRONGLY suggest creating your own .rpmmacros file before > > > doing any src.rpm installation so you can define an rpm staging area > > > in your user's home directory instead of being root user and using > > > /usr/src/redhat/ for the src.rpm operations. > > > > May I know why? Security reason? > > Exactly. While Arjan's kernel RPMs are unlikely to do anything > particularly horrible, spec file bugs can clobber your system if you run > rpmbuild as root, No need of rpmbuild bugs. Suppose you are in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS and want to clear up BUILD : # rm -r -f ../BUILD /* ^ Ooops > and there is really no reason to do so. Thus it just > makes more sense to build RPMs as a regular user, and just install them > as root. (If you're really anal about it, you can even have a special > user for building RPMs, just to make sure that it can't clobber anything > important at all.) That way certain packaging errors are not only > harmless, they can also easily be seen in the build process. > > /Per > > -- > Per Bjornsson > Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 28 03:56:49 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:56:49 -0400 Subject: i810 rehash and dell inspiron 2600 In-Reply-To: <4158C464.5020909@lopht.net> References: <4156323B.20206@lopht.net> <41576280.5080002@sbcglobal.net> <4158C464.5020909@lopht.net> Message-ID: <4158E101.2050304@sbcglobal.net> >> I have not tried the Intel driver version. Is this more capable than >> the xorg-x11 version? Any different features besides dual-head? >> > > I haven't been able to get it to compile yet, I have an open ticket with > their support department about it. I did find out that the Intel driver > relies on the BIOS implementation for supported resolutions. So if the > BIOS isn't set up to support 1450x resolution (I forget the other number > in that res, just recall a bunch of people mentioning it) than the Intel > driver won't either. So in that respect, the OSS driver seems to have > the upper hand. Thanks for the insight into the Intel provided driver, 1400x1050 would be top resolution I'd try. This is the maximum choice for the OSS driver also. I'm curious mainly in case I need to go the similar nv route. I doubt that it will be needed. Regarding the stolen memory issue. I have an excerpt from the working Dell below. I guess it is recognized as an 865G. The full log is at the link below the excerpt. I posted it for comparison between the different cards. 815 and 865G. I remembered the stolen memory reference in the file. (--) I810(0): Chipset: "865G" (--) I810(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE8000000 (--) I810(0): IO registers at addr 0xFEB80000 (II) I810(0): 1 display pipe available. (II) I810(0): detected 8060 kB stolen memory. (II) I810(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 441340 kB available (II) I810(0): Will attempt to tell the BIOS that there is 12288 kB VideoRAM (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f11 not supported. (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a (II) I810(0): initializing int10 (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=103809&action=view About the rant. I've noticed a similar situation on sites which are governed by the corporations sponsoring the product. Simple words like petition should not be censored, but the main issue is for improvements to the BIOS for all platforms should be followed. If they don't want to do the work, they should open up enough information for an Optimized BIOS for the chipset can be achieved for Linux operation. Jim From rhouston at rlhc.net Tue Sep 28 04:26:03 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:26:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre><34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096319079.9861.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com><34665.24.77.172.251.1096322938.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: <35086.24.77.172.251.1096345563.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Great I look forward to seeing these update. Relating to my original question, is there a way to remove the libgnomeprint stuff and include the spadmin util in the spec file? Here is why, the manager of the project i am working on currently want the printing system to be a uniformed as possible. Now I have convince this client that OpenOffic is just fine for what they need. They were looking at MS office with Crossover. They were concerned that Adobe acrobat printed one way, openoffice printed a second way and gedit a third. So I work out the use of krpinter by changing the symlink in /etc/alternatives/lpr to /usr/bin/kprinter. Now all the common user apps, Acrobat Reader and Mozilla print the with kprinter with the exception of OpenOffice. Now I tried on a stock OpenOffice install and I can use kprinter with no issue by changing the printer command from lpr to kprinter but the FC2 install is different as we have discussed. So in short if I can have all the chrome of the FC2 install but have access to spadmin and the stock printer system I could make this client very happy. Just something to think about for the future, maybe gnome could come up with a system like KDE's Kprnter and apps could call either gnome or kde version to handle user printer jobs. This way by symlinking lrp even stuff written to use lpr only could benefit from the gnome-print or kprinter setup and give the user a single printer system. Just an idea. Regards, +------------------------------------------+ | Richard Houston .^. | | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | | E-Mail /( )\ | | WWW ^^-^^ | +------------------------------------------+ Dan Williams said: > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Richard Houston wrote: >> > NOTE: these directions are for the OOo 1.1.2 packages. These will be >> > pushed to FC2-Updates quite soon. I know that the Properties button >> > doesn't really do anything in the 1.1.1-4, that should be fixed with >> the >> > update once it gets through. >> > >> >> Well as we are running OO 1.1.1 supplied by FC2 this might be the issue. >> Do we know when these updates will be available? Is there a testing >> version I could get my hands on to start testing with? >> >> Thanks for you help Dan. Appreciate it. > > No RPMs yet, but its building on my test box right now. If there are no > issues with the build, I hope to be able to stuff it into the build > system tomorrow. FC2 is certainly an easier rebuild than FC1 due to FC1's > use of GTK 2.4 (specifically, FC1 doesn't have file dialog). > > Dan > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From vicky at steeds.com Tue Sep 28 06:07:34 2004 From: vicky at steeds.com (Vicky Staubly) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Unable to allocate tty? In-Reply-To: <200409271925.38953.wes@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Wes Shull wrote: > Vicky Staubly wrote: > > once in a while, I'll log in via ssh only to be told that > > it couldn't allocate a tty. > > Could be related to > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127048 > > and the other bugs referenced in comments on that one. Never did see any > official explanation, but the problem seems to have gone away with newer > kernel builds. Hi Wes! Small world! How have you been? I think mine is somewhat different. I went back and looked at my system logs. In /var/log/secure, I see the following lines: Sep 27 12:17:01 clydesdale sshd[25696]: pam_succeed_if: requirement "uid < 100" not met by user "vicky" Sep 27 12:17:01 clydesdale sshd[25696]: Accepted password for vicky from ::ffff:12.34.56.78 port 61089 Sep 27 12:17:08 clydesdale sshd[25696]: error: openpty: No such file or directory Sep 27 12:17:08 clydesdale sshd[25698]: error: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc failed Could it have something to do with the new dev filesystem? I see a similar message in bug #129990, but I have different symptoms. I can log in normally for some time. Then after a few days, I get this. I am able to log in, but the shell isn't very usable. An already existing shh login shell continues to be usable. In fact, I was able to use it to execute a "shutdown -r now" remotely, and then log in successfully after the reboot completed. And, since the above listed bug references SELinux, I'll probably either reinstall without SELinux, or install FC3T2 (or more likely both, even though it might be more scientific to change one thing at a time). -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/ vicky at steeds.com great web hosting http://www.steedshosting.net/ vstaubly at steedshosting.net From wtogami at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 06:11:21 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:11:21 -1000 Subject: Thunderbird (missing enigmail) In-Reply-To: <80d7e4090409271446278d0adc@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d7e4090409271446278d0adc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41590089.80904@redhat.com> Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > Hi, we have been using enigmail with the thunderbird for some of our > work.. I was wondering why it had been removed from the latest > thunderbird and would it be put back at some point? > blizzard and caillon objected rightly to the inclusion of enigmail within our package, because it is extremely difficult to maintain as it is not an upstream feature. Too often with new versions it takes weeks to get enigmail working again in packaged form. The risk is just too great. For the short term, we should be able to package it separately in Extras, but the only maintainable long term solution is to convince upstream thunderbird to accept it. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From mike at salemiu.edu Tue Sep 28 07:57:42 2004 From: mike at salemiu.edu (Michael Jenkins) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 03:57:42 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature Message-ID: When doing an up2date on a package, I get the following: [root at localhost /etc/sysconfig/rhn]$ up2date hdparm Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... Fetching rpm headers... ######################################## Name Version Rel ---------------------------------------------------------- hdparm 5.7 2 i386 Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... ######################################## hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm: ########################## Done. The package hdparm-5.7-2 is not signed with a GPG signature. Aborting... Package hdparm-5.7-2 does not have a GPG signature. Aborting... I've imported all these keys: [root at localhost /usr/share/doc/up2date-4.3.40]$ locate RPM-GPG /usr/share/doc/rpm-4.3.2/RPM-GPG-KEY /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-2.91/RPM-GPG-KEY-rawhide /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-2.91/RPM-GPG-KEY /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-2.91/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-2.91/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-2.91/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-rawhide /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-2.91/RPM-GPG-KEY-beta /usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY /usr/share/rhn/BETA-RPM-GPG-KEY /usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test /usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora I've commented out the line in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources for the yum-mirror and added the following: yum fedora-core-rawhide http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development/$ARCH/ I've gone to this site and imported all of its RPM-GPG keys... Still same issue, the thing that kills me is that I can do a rpm -Kv or rpm --checksig against the RPM that was put in /var/spool/up2date but not installed and get: [root at localhost /var/spool/up2date]$ rpm -Kv hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm: Header SHA1 digest: OK (0115990d6b8e85627bdf24a1f7f8f74627ea5a2b) MD5 digest: OK (9621b9025c6538da72605fade8d028ed) [root at localhost /var/spool/up2date]$ rpm --checksig hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK I've manually updated up2date to try and fix this, however same issue, the release is: [root at localhost ~]$ rpm -q up2date up2date-4.3.40-1 I can also run rpm -Uvh against these, and they install fine, so it must be something with up2date. After looking at the source in /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client, this error is a result of hasBadSignature returning 1, which after looking in up2date.py for hasBadSignature, it only returns 1 for a package with a header with no gpg signature? I've never coded in python, so I could be completely wrong on that assessment. I've read some board posts that people say the development updates aren't signed, but how does rpm --checksig return OK then? Maybe I'm being paranoid about these packages having proper signatures, and could get around this using up2date --nosigs, but doesn't that defeat the point? I'm just wondering if anyone has found a fix for this issue, or am I just better off using yum? Thanks. Mike From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue Sep 28 08:29:18 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:29:18 +0200 Subject: Latin fonts in qt b0rked In-Reply-To: <4158A342.2080106@streamyx.com> References: <41573F66.1010800@redhat.com> <20040927134856.1b2d4624.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <4158A342.2080106@streamyx.com> Message-ID: <20040928102918.67aaa90f.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:33:22 +0800, Mazli Alias wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > >On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:15:02 -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > > > > > > > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133578 > >> > >>Is anybody *NOT* seeing this problem? Our qt maintainer is unable to > >>reproduce the problem while everyone else I've asked sees it. Perhaps > >>more feedback will help us to isolate the cause, or at least a way to > >>reproduce it. > >> > >> > > > >Don't see it here. But I don't track Rawhide on this machine and > >just upgraded fontconfig. > > > >$ rpm -q qt fontconfig > >qt-3.3.3-5 > >fontconfig-2.2.3-4 > > > > > > > LANG="en_US.UTF-8" > SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en" > SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16" > > qt-3.3.3-5 > qt-3.3.3-5 > fontconfig-2.2.3-4 > fontconfig-2.2.3-4 > > I'm on AMD64..the problem still persist...happened after some > up2date..not after first post install. Meanwhile, there are more details in above bug report. -- Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) - Linux 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 loadavg: 1.47 1.27 1.09 From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue Sep 28 08:30:59 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:30:59 +0200 Subject: wget problem? In-Reply-To: <80d7e409040927153876c567de@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d7e40904092713594ab19d9a@mail.gmail.com> <20040927231623.2b3a1412.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <80d7e409040927153876c567de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040928103059.1c5d229d.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:38:37 -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > > I am trying to figure out if this is a problem in wget or something > > > else in FC3T2 > > > Looks very wrong. Could be related to >2GB file support fixes. > > But I cannot reproduce it with your test URL and the original > > wget-1.9.1-13 from FC3T2. > > > > Ok I have the latest in rawhide.. so it must have crept in since then. > > [smooge at bake_neko ~]$ rpm -q wget > wget-1.9.1-16 > > * Thu Sep 16 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.9.1-16 > > - more fixes > > * Tue Sep 14 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.9.1-15 > > - added strtol fix from Leonid Petrov, reenable LFS > > * Tue Sep 14 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.9.1-14 > > - buildrequires gettext (#132519) > > * Wed Sep 01 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.9.1-13 > > - disable LFS patch for now, it breaks normal downloads (123524#c15) > > I wonder if LFS got put back in? Yes, seems so, see changelog comment for 1.9.1-15. -- Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) - Linux 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 loadavg: 1.11 1.20 1.08 From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue Sep 28 08:32:57 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:32:57 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 No sound In-Reply-To: <200409280222.i8S2MFm92709@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409280222.i8S2MFm92709@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <20040928103257.3843d102.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:20:21 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > >> FC1 I had sound. > >> FC2 I had sound but it was barely audible. > >> FC3T2 I have no sound at all. > >> > >> I have turned up everything in the sound control box and made sue my > sound > >> is unmuted. > > >What about alsamixer? And what audio application(s) do you use for testing? > > Alsamixer is cranked up all the way. I use xmms to play MP3s. And which output driver in XMMS? And since mp3 support is not included in FC3T2, which versions of xmms and xmms-mp3? -- Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) - Linux 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 loadavg: 1.02 1.14 1.07 From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue Sep 28 09:20:50 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:20:50 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mar 28/09/2004 ? 09:57, Michael Jenkins a ?crit : > When doing an up2date on a package, I get the following: > > [root at localhost /etc/sysconfig/rhn]$ up2date hdparm > > Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-rawhide... > > Fetching rpm headers... > ######################################## > > Name Version Rel > ---------------------------------------------------------- > hdparm 5.7 2 > i386 > > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > ######################################## > hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm: ########################## Done. > The package hdparm-5.7-2 is not signed with a GPG signature. Aborting... > Package hdparm-5.7-2 does not have a GPG signature. > Aborting... It's something i definitely can't understand. fedora.us => signed rpm.livna.org => signed freshrpms.net => signed Dag => signed etc Fedora Core => signed sometimes. No improvement here sine the beginning of (Fedora|redhat linux) Project ! Right now : 500 packages not signed ! More than 700 Mo ! Fedora have a beautiful feature : - you can sign the kernel module of your unsigned kernel. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 11:05:24 2004 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:05:24 +0100 Subject: cron still broken- sort-of In-Reply-To: <20040928042803.3901673D79@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040928042803.3901673D79@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096369524.2546.44.camel@wjmurray> Hello there, Any ideas how to get cron working? I previously reported that doing 'touch /etc/cron.deny' as root changed an error from crontab of of 'not allowed to use this program' into 'cron/tmp.XXXXTBxTOG: Permission denied'. I have now found this 'cron' is in /var/spool/cron. I tried giving my user write access to /var/spool/cron, or even 'chown' but then I get 'chown: Operation not permitted' from the crontab command. So I tried copying the 'crontab' executable from my FC2 setup, and that works just fine. Not really a solution, but maybe it sheds some light? Bill -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dr W. J. Murray ATLAS w.murray at rl.ac.uk | | RAL DELPHI Tel: (44)-1235-446256 | | Chilton, Didcot, Oox. OX11 0QX MuScat Fax: (44)-1235-446733 | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janina at rednote.net Tue Sep 28 11:24:34 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:24:34 -0400 Subject: Yum --exclude broken? In-Reply-To: <1096330851.17073.5.camel@binkley> References: <20040926174532.GA381@rednote.net> <1096225106.32521.10.camel@binkley> <20040927214425.GA22013@rednote.net> <1096322748.31742.42.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040927225934.GC3161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096330851.17073.5.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <20040928112434.GB22013@rednote.net> seth vidal writes: > On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 18:59 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 06:05:48PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > > So, it's just bad English? i.e. "for pkg" is just backwards? > > > > > > Well, not really. it's accurate the version of mozilla that epiphany is > > > missing. > > > > It is pretty dire English however ;) > > > I can enhance the messages to tell which package is installed and which > is attempting to be installed. I think that would be good. I imagine I'm not the only one who would trip over this, so if it's easier to tell which one to --exclude, that should just be more user friendly. > > -sv > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Tue Sep 28 11:29:04 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:29:04 -0300 Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <35086.24.77.172.251.1096345563.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre> <34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096319079.9861.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <34665.24.77.172.251.1096322938.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <35086.24.77.172.251.1096345563.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: <1096370944.7542.15.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Ter, 2004-09-28 ?s 01:26, Richard Houston escreveu: > So in short if I can have all the chrome of the FC2 install but have > access to spadmin and the stock printer system I could make this client > very happy. To do this, copy the /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/resource/ (or the ooo-1.2, whatever). Uninstall Fedora's openoffice and then download and install a stock openoffice. Replace the files contained in the ooo/program/resource directory with those you got from fedora (Which are a series of .res files), and voil?, you have the splash and visual of fedora's one, but with the capabilities of the stock version. -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From dcbw at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 11:53:03 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <35086.24.77.172.251.1096345563.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre><34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096319079.9861.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com><34665.24.77.172.251.1096322938.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <35086.24.77.172.251.1096345563.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: Richard, Its quite possible to pull the stuff out. I'd also note that OOo doesn't use libgnomeprint at this time, it talks directly to libcups, which is what libgnomeprint does too. Acrobat Reader talks directly to lpr, which then talks to CUPS. So in the end, everything talks to CUPS in some form or another. To bring back spadmin from the living dead, you'll want to look at the %install section of the specfile. There should be a line deleting spadmin from the install directory. You'll also need to add spadmin to the big "chmod" part right at the end of the %install section too, and possibly add something to the %files section at the end. It actually gets built as far as I know (if not, yell at me), its just removed forcefully at the end and not packaged. Dan On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Richard Houston wrote: > Great I look forward to seeing these update. > > Relating to my original question, is there a way to remove the > libgnomeprint stuff and include the spadmin util in the spec file? Here is > why, the manager of the project i am working on currently want the > printing system to be a uniformed as possible. Now I have convince this > client that OpenOffic is just fine for what they need. They were looking > at MS office with Crossover. > > They were concerned that Adobe acrobat printed one way, openoffice printed > a second way and gedit a third. So I work out the use of krpinter by > changing the symlink in /etc/alternatives/lpr to /usr/bin/kprinter. Now > all the common user apps, Acrobat Reader and Mozilla print the with > kprinter with the exception of OpenOffice. Now I tried on a stock > OpenOffice install and I can use kprinter with no issue by changing the > printer command from lpr to kprinter but the FC2 install is different as > we have discussed. > > So in short if I can have all the chrome of the FC2 install but have > access to spadmin and the stock printer system I could make this client > very happy. > > Just something to think about for the future, maybe gnome could come up > with a system like KDE's Kprnter and apps could call either gnome or kde > version to handle user printer jobs. This way by symlinking lrp even > stuff written to use lpr only could benefit from the gnome-print or > kprinter setup and give the user a single printer system. Just an idea. > > > Regards, > +------------------------------------------+ > | Richard Houston .^. | > | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | > | E-Mail /( )\ | > | WWW ^^-^^ | > +------------------------------------------+ > > Dan Williams said: > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Richard Houston wrote: > >> > NOTE: these directions are for the OOo 1.1.2 packages. These will be > >> > pushed to FC2-Updates quite soon. I know that the Properties button > >> > doesn't really do anything in the 1.1.1-4, that should be fixed with > >> the > >> > update once it gets through. > >> > > >> > >> Well as we are running OO 1.1.1 supplied by FC2 this might be the issue. > >> Do we know when these updates will be available? Is there a testing > >> version I could get my hands on to start testing with? > >> > >> Thanks for you help Dan. Appreciate it. > > > > No RPMs yet, but its building on my test box right now. If there are no > > issues with the build, I hope to be able to stuff it into the build > > system tomorrow. FC2 is certainly an easier rebuild than FC1 due to FC1's > > use of GTK 2.4 (specifically, FC1 doesn't have file dialog). > > > > Dan > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Sep 28 11:58:22 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:58:22 -0400 Subject: no /dev/nst0 References: <4158B478.3070401@yahoo.com> <4158C3A2.20604@rogers.com> Message-ID: Dwaine Garden wrote: > Allen Kistler wrote: > >> Neal D. Becker wrote: >> >>> My scsi tape used to be /dev/nst0, now it doesn't seem to have been >>> created. >> >> >> Same problem as "SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel >> 2.6.8-1.584" >> >> Anything SCSI that's not a hard drive doesn't get created in /dev. >> > At least everyone is giving udev a good testing... 8*) > > Dwaine. > Any suggested workaround in the meantime? I need to run a backup. From dcbw at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 12:00:40 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Results with fc3t2 In-Reply-To: <1096339740.3289.7.camel@steelgoose.com> References: <1096339740.3289.7.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Openoffice.org still lacks pt_BR translation, and we are obligued to use > that bizarre pt_PT version (bizarre for brazilians, of course). Please update to OOo 1.1.2-6 that hit rawhide earlier this week. Dan From akabi at speakeasy.net Tue Sep 28 12:02:36 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: cron still broken- sort-of In-Reply-To: <1096369524.2546.44.camel@wjmurray> References: <20040928042803.3901673D79@hormel.redhat.com> <1096369524.2546.44.camel@wjmurray> Message-ID: On Sep 28, 2004 at 12:05, William John Murray in a soothing rage wrote: > Hello there, > Any ideas how to get cron working? > >I previously reported that doing 'touch /etc/cron.deny' as root >changed an error from crontab of of 'not allowed to use this program' >into 'cron/tmp.XXXXTBxTOG: Permission denied'. > I have now found this 'cron' is in /var/spool/cron. I tried giving >my user write access to /var/spool/cron, or even 'chown' but >then I get 'chown: Operation not permitted' from the crontab command. > > So I tried copying the 'crontab' executable from my FC2 setup, >and that works just fine. > Not really a solution, but maybe it sheds some light? > Bill First read 'man 1 crontab'. That lists what is needed to get users to be able to use cron. Second reinstall the crontab rpm again. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Quick, sing me the BUDAPEST NATIONAL ANTHEM!! 08:00:51 up 92 days, 1:15, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue Sep 28 12:02:29 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:02:29 -0400 Subject: SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel 2.6.8-1.584 References: <1095887485.2383.10.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> <41528CCB.4080307@redhat.com> <1095940027.3323.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> <4153A50F.3050700@yahoo.com> <4153EB01.10006@redhat.com> <20040924163653.GB12006@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <4157D6AA.7030809@redhat.com> <20040927161909.GA25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <4158B33F.2060900@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Allen Kistler wrote: > Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Harald Hoyer (harald at redhat.com) said: >> >>>>sg isn't used for generic SG access... SG_IO can be used on the >>>>device itself. >>> >>>so, what is it for now? >> >> >> I came in late to the discussion - what specifically is erroring out? >> >> Bill > > SCSI devices which are not hard drives don't work. > Their entries are not made in /dev by initrd. > /dev entries can be made manually, but disappear after reboot. > It worked long ago, in kernel build 534 days, with whatever version of > udev, etc., got bundled into 534's initrd. (Perhaps that version of > whatever didn't delete /dev entries?) > The OP saw it with a SCSI DVD-ROM. I see it with a SCSI CD-R. > Build 541 is just as guilty as 584. > > I see other probably-SCSI problems (gnome-cd/cdp/cdplay no longer likes > CDAs), too, but first things first. > Sounds like the same problem I have - no /dev/[n]st0 for my scsi tape. aic7xxx is loaded. From harald at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 12:25:02 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:25:02 +0200 Subject: udev on Fedora Message-ID: <4159581E.50605@redhat.com> If you have questions or problems with udev on Fedora, please have a look at: http://people.redhat.com/~harald/udev.html If not answered by this, send your questions to me, and I will extend this page. Thank you! Harald From ernesto at ornl.gov Tue Sep 28 12:48:23 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:48:23 -0400 Subject: Problems with Dell M60 laptop Message-ID: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B400CE4@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ow Mun Heng Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:18 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Problems with Dell M60 laptop On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 17:38, Simon Sedgwick wrote: > Just installed FC3t2 and I'm having all kinds of strange issues: > > 1, Machine is a 2GHz Pentium-M, in the messages log you can see it > keeps adjusting the clock speed between 1.4G and 2G. Speedstep?? > > 2, The broadcom network card (which is now auto detected) run's like a > dog. Meaning?? mii-tool eth0? > 3, I want to install the linuxant driver so I can get my Wi-Fi card to > work (works with FC1) but how to I go about compiling a 16k stack???? Why linuxant? what Wifi card do you own? If it's the intel ones... try ipw2000.sourceforge.net(? url) and ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net (? url) =========================================================== Hopefully, there will be a pure linux driver for the M60's internal wireless interface. NDIS is terrible and unpure!! Recompiple your kernel. Make xconfig ans look at the kernel options > 4, Nvidia's driver causing issues too, I don't get any error messages > in the logs but the screen goes black for a second and then comes > back. > > Simon > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Ow Mun Heng Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel 2.6.7-2.jul1-interactive Neuromancer 09:59:55 up 12:22, 6 users, load average: 0.69, 1.35, 1.99 -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ekul.taylor at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 12:59:28 2004 From: ekul.taylor at gmail.com (Luke Taylor) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:59:28 -0400 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <34593e650409280559206abea4@mail.gmail.com> > >I can't find the kernel-source package on the FC3T2 CDs or the > >download web site? There is a kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm. I installed > >it but there is nothing at /usr/src? > Mor will there be one for the forseeable future. Numerous threads > in fedora-devel detail this. There is no need to ship the same > thing twice. The src.rpm contains all you need. An 'rpm -qlp' > should list the kernel source tarbol, the patches in the src.rpm > and the .spec file. 'man rpm' and 'man rpmbuild' should give > you all the pointers you need. This kernel source thing is very annoying. You should not have to build an rpm to have access to the fedora patched kernel. Here's my question -- does FC3 use a vanilla kernel? if it does its would just be easier to download the tar from kernel.org and cp the config found in /boot From alan at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 13:03:46 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:03:46 -0400 Subject: i810 rehash and dell inspiron 2600 In-Reply-To: <4158E101.2050304@sbcglobal.net> References: <4156323B.20206@lopht.net> <41576280.5080002@sbcglobal.net> <4158C464.5020909@lopht.net> <4158E101.2050304@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040928130346.GB25803@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 11:56:49PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > About the rant. I've noticed a similar situation on sites which are > governed by the corporations sponsoring the product. Simple words like Same with shopping sites, removing bad reviews of products and bending ratings. Some at least seem to get the value of criticism but not many. > to the BIOS for all platforms should be followed. If they don't want to > do the work, they should open up enough information for an Optimized > BIOS for the chipset can be achieved for Linux operation. You assume they have the info themselves. That varies by vendor and machine, and sometimes the reason we can't get info in the Linux community is that the vendor would have confess to having bought the system in wholesale from an external no-name builder. Alan From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Tue Sep 28 13:06:47 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:06:47 -0300 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <34593e650409280559206abea4@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <34593e650409280559206abea4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096376807.7542.45.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Ter, 2004-09-28 ?s 09:59, Luke Taylor escreveu: > Here's my question -- does FC3 use a vanilla kernel? if it does its No, redhat patches the kernel heavily. Remember the 2.4 series with several backports from 2.6 (eg. the NTPL stuff on redhat9). -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 13:22:12 2004 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:22:12 +0100 Subject: cron still broken- sort-of In-Reply-To: <20040928125022.CF1B673E49@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040928125022.CF1B673E49@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096377732.2736.16.camel@wjmurray> > On Sep 28, 2004 at 12:05, William John Murray in a soothing rage wrote: > > > Hello there, > > Any ideas how to get cron working? > > > >I previously reported that doing 'touch /etc/cron.deny' as root > >changed an error from crontab of of 'not allowed to use this program' > >into 'cron/tmp.XXXXTBxTOG: Permission denied'. > > I have now found this 'cron' is in /var/spool/cron. I tried giving > >my user write access to /var/spool/cron, or even 'chown' but > >then I get 'chown: Operation not permitted' from the crontab command. > > > > So I tried copying the 'crontab' executable from my FC2 setup, > >and that works just fine. > > Not really a solution, but maybe it sheds some light? > > Bill > First read 'man 1 crontab'. That lists what is needed to get > users to be able to use cron. Second reinstall the crontab > rpm again. > > N.Emile... > -- > Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) > Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 > Quick, sing me the BUDAPEST NATIONAL ANTHEM!! > 08:00:51 up 92 days, 1:15, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Hi 'N.Emile', I have been trying to read 'man 1 crontab'. Probably I missed something, but it seems to me that the followinf SHOULD work, and does not: root>echo auser >> /etc/cron.allow auser> crontab some-file This gives the above Permsission denied. Can you please advise? Bill From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 13:47:47 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:47:47 -0400 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <34593e650409280559206abea4@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <34593e650409280559206abea4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa791040928064724dda458@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:59:28 -0400, Luke Taylor wrote: > This kernel source thing is very annoying. You should not have to > build an rpm to have access to the fedora patched kernel. I'm not sure how this is more annoying than having to use src.rpms for other sourcecode. Why do you need access the to full source of the patched kernel? I can only think of one valid reason i've seen to be annoyed, but only if you packaging addons across architectures. addon module can be built locally using solely the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build tree provided by the binary kernel rpm. If you want to apply your own patch to the source code, i see no reason why the kernel should be treated differently than any other component in the distro. If I want to patch freetype or openssh I certaintly have to use the src.rpm and apply a new patch and rebuild, why should the kernel be any different in this regard? > Here's my question -- does FC3 use a vanilla kernel? No there are patches... but the 2.6.x fedora kernels have far fewer patches than the older 2.4.x kernels. > would just be easier to download the tar from kernel.org and cp the > config found in /boot Easier? Depends on what you have learned how to do. But I will say this. Fedora kernels are patched for a reason. A lot of the applied patches are bugfixes for things like drivers and filesystems, it might be easier for you to compile a vanilla kernel because you don't understand how to use rpm at the moment. But I garuntee you its going to be harder for you to get ANY low level bug you find to be looked at by a fedora developer if you are using a custom kernel. Sort of depends on why you need the src code really, and whether you want to reapply all those fedora specific patches. -jef"its amazing how many new tricks an old dog can learn, when a cattle prod is used"spaleta From harald at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 14:04:48 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:04:48 +0200 Subject: no /dev/nst0 In-Reply-To: References: <4158B478.3070401@yahoo.com> <4158C3A2.20604@rogers.com> Message-ID: <41596F80.4060406@redhat.com> Neal D. Becker wrote: > Dwaine Garden wrote: > > >>Allen Kistler wrote: >> >> >>>Neal D. Becker wrote: >>> >>> >>>>My scsi tape used to be /dev/nst0, now it doesn't seem to have been >>>>created. >>> >>> >>>Same problem as "SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel >>>2.6.8-1.584" >>> >>>Anything SCSI that's not a hard drive doesn't get created in /dev. >>> >> >>At least everyone is giving udev a good testing... 8*) >> >>Dwaine. >> > > > Any suggested workaround in the meantime? I need to run a backup. > Load the st module.. From alan at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 14:23:24 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:23:24 -0400 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <1096376807.7542.45.camel@steelgoose.com> References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> <1096324701.14962.15.camel@dhcp024-208-178-227.columbus.rr.com> <34593e650409280559206abea4@mail.gmail.com> <1096376807.7542.45.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: <20040928142324.GE25803@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 10:06:47AM -0300, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Ter, 2004-09-28 ?s 09:59, Luke Taylor escreveu: > > Here's my question -- does FC3 use a vanilla kernel? if it does its > > No, redhat patches the kernel heavily. Remember the 2.4 series with > several backports from 2.6 (eg. the NTPL stuff on redhat9). FC2 and FC3test kernels have almost no changes from the vanilla kernel. For FC1 we had to because the upstream kernel simply wasn't adequate. Alan From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue Sep 28 14:44:38 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:44:38 +0200 Subject: Results with fc3t2 In-Reply-To: <1096339740.3289.7.camel@steelgoose.com> References: <1096339740.3289.7.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: <1096382678.2662.2.camel@kyrre> tir, 28.09.2004 kl. 04.49 skrev Alexandre Strube: > The default navigator seems to be epiphany... Which several people don't > like. > I think it was chosen for being the default gnome browser - ie the browser which are tigthest integrated into gnome. (MIME-types etc. Makes it quite much easyer to use ;) ). In reallity, epiphany is just a rebranded mozilla. If you dont like it, change it. Firefox, original mozilla, konqueror, an probably a few more are included. > Evolution has a strange behaviour regarding the timezone configuration. > It won't select the nearest city you click, but the nearest city at the > time the mouse cursor leaves the selection window. The cities are also > very different from those of anaconda's world map. Have you updated evolution? Kyrre From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue Sep 28 14:50:01 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4583.12.29.16.103.1096383001.squirrel@whooper.org> Matias Feliciano said: > It's something i definitely can't understand. > fedora.us => signed rpm.livna.org => signed freshrpms.net => signed Dag => > signed etc > > Fedora Core => signed sometimes. Let's be accurate, all Fedora Core released RPMs are signed. Rawhide RPMs may or may not be signed. -- William Hooper From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue Sep 28 14:54:54 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1288.12.29.16.103.1096383294.squirrel@whooper.org> Michael Jenkins said: > When doing an up2date on a package, I get the following: > > > [root at localhost /etc/sysconfig/rhn]$ up2date hdparm [snip] > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > ######################################## > hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm: ########################## Done. > The package hdparm-5.7-2 is not signed with a GPG signature. Aborting... > Package hdparm-5.7-2 does not have a GPG signature. > Aborting... "Does not have a GPG signature" > > I've imported all these keys: It doesnt' matter how may keys you have, the RPM isn't signed. [snip] > [root at localhost /var/spool/up2date]$ rpm -Kv hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm > hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm: > Header SHA1 digest: OK (0115990d6b8e85627bdf24a1f7f8f74627ea5a2b) > MD5 digest: OK (9621b9025c6538da72605fade8d028ed) > [root at localhost /var/spool/up2date]$ rpm --checksig hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm > hdparm-5.7-2.i386.rpm: sha1 md5 OK Compare this to an RPM that is signed. [whooper at kenny up2date]$ rpm -Kv gtk2-2.4.7-2.6.i386.rpm gtk2-2.4.7-2.6.i386.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: OK, key ID 4f2a6fd2 Header SHA1 digest: OK (f55f1f53230885c8b0308853b3d4680237192fe7) MD5 digest: OK (b680e27bb9697b7f1445085683c97557) V3 DSA signature: OK, key ID 4f2a6fd2 [whooper at kenny up2date]$ rpm --checksig gtk2-2.4.7-2.6.i386.rpm gtk2-2.4.7-2.6.i386.rpm: (sha1) dsa sha1 md5 gpg OK -- William Hooper From dmalcolm at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 15:23:07 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:23:07 -0400 Subject: Results with fc3t2 In-Reply-To: <1096382678.2662.2.camel@kyrre> References: <1096339740.3289.7.camel@steelgoose.com> <1096382678.2662.2.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: <1096384987.21799.18.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 16:44 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > tir, 28.09.2004 kl. 04.49 skrev Alexandre Strube: > > > The default navigator seems to be epiphany... Which several people don't > > like. > > > > I think it was chosen for being the default gnome browser - ie the > browser which are tigthest integrated into gnome. (MIME-types etc. Makes > it quite much easyer to use ;) ). In reallity, epiphany is just a > rebranded mozilla. > > If you dont like it, change it. Firefox, original mozilla, konqueror, an > probably a few more are included. > > > Evolution has a strange behaviour regarding the timezone configuration. > > It won't select the nearest city you click, but the nearest city at the > > time the mouse cursor leaves the selection window. The cities are also > > very different from those of anaconda's world map. Please file a report in Bugzilla about this. From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 16:12:40 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:12:40 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:20:50 +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Fedora Core => signed sometimes. Correction... the development tree..specifically has unsigned packages..and that is an inherent "feature" of the development tree. Signing takes finite time and involves a human to do it for it to have any value whatsoever. There is a trade-off between pushing fixes out for testing/feedback as quickly as possible and providing the added benefit of signed packages. The development tree churns pretty fast. There could easily be a daily update for some packages as bugs get fixed (or refixed). The extra time and manpower to sign all the packages could easily keep a package from being available by a whole day or more. Testing for the next full release is a time sensitive process..with deadlines. Having to wait an extra day to make a new development package avaliable basically cuts the amount of available community testing time during the testing phase by half. Thats a pretty high cost for the meager benefit of signing a package that is not advertised to be secure or tested which might have a lifetime of exactly 1 or 2 days if another update needs to be pushed. Since the development tree is not advertised to be secure nor stable, there is an argument to be made that in the development tree getting packages publicly available as quickly as possible outweights the benefit of signing packages. Since every person using the development should NOT be using development packages in situations where security and data integrety are a requirement. If you have a problem with using unsigned packages on your testing box...don't use the unsigned packages. All packages part of full releases and updates to full releases and even package as part of test releases get signatures. The lack of signing is strictly a development branch issue. -jef From thomasz at hostmaster.org Tue Sep 28 16:37:03 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:37:03 +0200 Subject: Custom Kernel? Message-ID: <1096389423.4146.8.camel@hostmaster.org> As far as I remember there was always support for running RedHat/Fedora with a custom/vanilla/stock kernel. Now one of my bug reports has been closed because I am not using a Fedora kernel and the same question has been raised in another bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133865 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133789#c4 Could someone please clarify? Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key Press any key to continue or any other key to quit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue Sep 28 16:44:18 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:44:18 -0700 Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <415994E2.5010605@BitWagon.com> > All packages part of full releases and updates to full releases and > even package as part of test releases get signatures. The lack of > signing is strictly a development branch issue. Yes: it annoys the testers because the only choices in RHN gui up2date are "accept ALL unsigned packages" or "make downloading an on-line activity by requiring immediate interaction for EACH unsigned package." There should be two more options: 1. Wait until all packages have been downloaded before requiring interactivity. Dribble the individual unsigned warnings into a list box as they are detected, but do not pause for user OK until all packages have been downloaded. 2. Automatically omit unsigned packages: from the download if possible, else from the install. This may cause other package installls to fail because of required dependencies, etc. -- From reader at newsguy.com Tue Sep 28 16:45:08 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:45:08 -0500 Subject: yum targets for FC3t2 Message-ID: I'm confused... is rawhide the yum target for both FC3T2 and FC3T1? It appears both FC3t1 and FC3t2 yum.conf are aimed at rawhide. I've just fully updated a machine that says: cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release 2.90 (FC3 Test 1) From: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ and fedora-release reads as shown above. My FC3t2 install shows Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) Its yum.conf also came aimed at: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ Is this normal? From akabi at speakeasy.net Tue Sep 28 16:53:47 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: cron still broken- sort-of In-Reply-To: <1096377732.2736.16.camel@wjmurray> References: <20040928125022.CF1B673E49@hormel.redhat.com> <1096377732.2736.16.camel@wjmurray> Message-ID: On Sep 28, 2004 at 14:22, William John Murray in a soothing rage wrote: [...] >Hi 'N.Emile', > I have been trying to read 'man 1 crontab'. Probably I missed >something, but it seems to me that the followinf SHOULD work, and does >not: > >root>echo auser >> /etc/cron.allow > >auser> crontab some-file > >This gives the above Permsission denied. Can you please advise? root> echo "auser" >> /etc/cron.allow auser> crontab -e N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Zombie processess detected, machine is haunted. 12:52:33 up 92 days, 6:07, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Tue Sep 28 17:06:22 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:06:22 +0100 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: References: <20040925010528.66317.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1096108828.4910.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096114215.2720.0.camel@kyrre> <9753e7de04092506352c9deda5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096391183.3745.4.camel@datacc> On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 13:53 -0400, ne... wrote: > On Sep 25, 2004 at 21:35, N.A. in a soothing rage wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >I can't find the kernel-source package on the FC3T2 CDs or the > >download web site? There is a kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm. I installed > >it but there is nothing at /usr/src? > Mor will there be one for the forseeable future. Numerous threads > in fedora-devel detail this. There is no need to ship the same > thing twice. The src.rpm contains all you need. An 'rpm -qlp' > should list the kernel source tarbol, the patches in the src.rpm > and the .spec file. 'man rpm' and 'man rpmbuild' should give > you all the pointers you need. But is it shipped twice? When the install runs to four iso's how many people are going to download the four source CD's? > > N.Emile... > -- > Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) > Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 > Q: What's tiny and yellow and very, very, dangerous? > A: A canary with the super-user password. > 13:49:36 up 89 days, 7:04, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > From alan at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 17:29:49 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:29:49 -0400 Subject: Custom Kernel? In-Reply-To: <1096389423.4146.8.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <1096389423.4146.8.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <20040928172949.GA18825@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 06:37:03PM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > Now one of my bug reports has been closed because I am not using a > Fedora kernel and the same question has been raised in another bug > report: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133865 Not sure why it was closed but testing with the FC kernel would help make sure its not a local build bug. Looks to me like hal bugs tho > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133789#c4 > > Could someone please clarify? It depends on the bug. We do get bugs caused by users doing strange things in kernel building. From aoliva at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 17:49:14 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 28 Sep 2004 14:49:14 -0300 Subject: Gtk-Perl gone missing? In-Reply-To: <604aa79104092616133481a60c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1096238093.22052.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092616133481a60c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sep 26, 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:34:53 +0100, Paul wrote: >> What has happened to gtk-perl? It's listed on bugzilla but not in the >> test version. Has it been dropped and if it has, can we have it back >> please? Pretty please... > took you a while to notice it was gone... which doesn't same much for > the importance of putting it back in Core. This is an illogical conclusion. :-) up2date from rawhide won't actually remove packages just because they're no longer in the rawhide repository. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Sep 28 17:59:09 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:59:09 +0200 Subject: yum targets for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4159A66D.1040009@gmx.de> Harry Putnam wrote: > <>I'm confused... is rawhide the yum target for both > FC3T2 and FC3T1? > [...] > Is this normal? yes ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/README ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/README -------- Thanks for your interest in Rawhide. The Rawhide development tree is now associated with the Fedora Project: http://fedora.redhat.com/ Rawhide is now available from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ and from various mirror sites; see: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html -------- -- shrek-m From rhouston at rlhc.net Tue Sep 28 17:54:08 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:54:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: <1096370944.7542.15.camel@steelgoose.com> References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre><34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096319079.9861.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com><34665.24.77.172.251.1096322938.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><35086.24.77.172.251.1096345563.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> <1096370944.7542.15.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: <5146.205.200.66.22.1096394048.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Thanks for your input. I have done this but all it really give me is the redhat openoffice splash screen. The fonts are still the stock openoffice the the icons are the stock ones with a black back ground behind them. Did I miss something or do we need to move the fonts and icons some ware? Regards, +------------------------------------------+ | Richard Houston .^. | | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | | E-Mail /( )\ | | WWW ^^-^^ | +------------------------------------------+ Alexandre Strube said: > Em Ter, 2004-09-28 ?s 01:26, Richard Houston escreveu: > >> So in short if I can have all the chrome of the FC2 install but have >> access to spadmin and the stock printer system I could make this client >> very happy. > > To do this, copy the > > /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/resource/ > (or the ooo-1.2, whatever). Uninstall Fedora's openoffice and then > download and install a stock openoffice. Replace the files contained in > the ooo/program/resource directory with those you got from fedora (Which > are a series of .res files), and voil?, you have the splash and visual > of fedora's one, but with the capabilities of the stock version. > > -- > []s > > Alexandre Ganso > 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From rhouston at rlhc.net Tue Sep 28 17:57:22 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:57:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Openoffice rpm In-Reply-To: References: <33986.24.77.172.251.1096311109.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096311479.28961.6.camel@kyrre><34284.24.77.172.251.1096313504.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><1096319079.9861.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com><34665.24.77.172.251.1096322938.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net><35086.24.77.172.251.1096345563.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: <5407.205.200.66.22.1096394242.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Dan Williams said: > Richard, > > > To bring back spadmin from the living dead, you'll want to look at the > %install section of the specfile. There should be a line deleting spadmin > from the install directory. You'll also need to add spadmin to the big > "chmod" part right at the end of the %install section too, and possibly > add something to the %files section at the end. It actually gets built as > far as I know (if not, yell at me), its just removed forcefully at the end > and not packaged. K, I have comments out the removal of spadmin and add it to the chmod section. Add it to the files as well but still spamin is not in the rpm. Any thing I missed? > > Dan > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Richard Houston wrote: > >> Great I look forward to seeing these update. >> >> Relating to my original question, is there a way to remove the >> libgnomeprint stuff and include the spadmin util in the spec file? Here >> is >> why, the manager of the project i am working on currently want the >> printing system to be a uniformed as possible. Now I have convince this >> client that OpenOffic is just fine for what they need. They were looking >> at MS office with Crossover. >> >> They were concerned that Adobe acrobat printed one way, openoffice >> printed >> a second way and gedit a third. So I work out the use of krpinter by >> changing the symlink in /etc/alternatives/lpr to /usr/bin/kprinter. Now >> all the common user apps, Acrobat Reader and Mozilla print the with >> kprinter with the exception of OpenOffice. Now I tried on a stock >> OpenOffice install and I can use kprinter with no issue by changing the >> printer command from lpr to kprinter but the FC2 install is different as >> we have discussed. >> >> So in short if I can have all the chrome of the FC2 install but have >> access to spadmin and the stock printer system I could make this client >> very happy. >> >> Just something to think about for the future, maybe gnome could come up >> with a system like KDE's Kprnter and apps could call either gnome or kde >> version to handle user printer jobs. This way by symlinking lrp even >> stuff written to use lpr only could benefit from the gnome-print or >> kprinter setup and give the user a single printer system. Just an idea. >> >> >> Regards, >> +------------------------------------------+ >> | Richard Houston .^. | >> | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | >> | E-Mail /( )\ | >> | WWW ^^-^^ | >> +------------------------------------------+ >> >> Dan Williams said: >> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Richard Houston wrote: >> >> > NOTE: these directions are for the OOo 1.1.2 packages. These will >> be >> >> > pushed to FC2-Updates quite soon. I know that the Properties >> button >> >> > doesn't really do anything in the 1.1.1-4, that should be fixed >> with >> >> the >> >> > update once it gets through. >> >> > >> >> >> >> Well as we are running OO 1.1.1 supplied by FC2 this might be the >> issue. >> >> Do we know when these updates will be available? Is there a testing >> >> version I could get my hands on to start testing with? >> >> >> >> Thanks for you help Dan. Appreciate it. >> > >> > No RPMs yet, but its building on my test box right now. If there are >> no >> > issues with the build, I hope to be able to stuff it into the build >> > system tomorrow. FC2 is certainly an easier rebuild than FC1 due to >> FC1's >> > use of GTK 2.4 (specifically, FC1 doesn't have file dialog). >> > >> > Dan >> > >> > -- >> > fedora-test-list mailing list >> > fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> > To unsubscribe: >> > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> > >> > >> >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue Sep 28 18:06:10 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <415994E2.5010605@BitWagon.com> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> <415994E2.5010605@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <1686.12.29.16.103.1096394770.squirrel@whooper.org> John Reiser said: >> All packages part of full releases and updates to full releases and >> even package as part of test releases get signatures. The lack of signing >> is strictly a development branch issue. > > Yes: it annoys the testers because the only choices in RHN gui up2date > are "accept ALL unsigned packages" or "make downloading an on-line activity > by requiring immediate interaction for EACH unsigned package." > > There should be two more options: > > > 1. Wait until all packages have been downloaded before requiring > interactivity. Dribble the individual unsigned warnings into a list box as > they are detected, but do not pause for user OK until all packages have > been downloaded. up2date --nosig -du > 2. Automatically omit unsigned packages: from the download if possible, > else from the install. This may cause other package installls to fail > because of required dependencies, etc. How do you know if a package is signed without downloading it? -- William Hooper From tjb at unh.edu Tue Sep 28 18:10:53 2004 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:10:53 -0400 Subject: TCP Wrappers and Portmap Message-ID: <1096395053.4636.3.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> I just update a machine to FC3T2 and it appears that the way tcp wrappers works with portmap has changed. I used to be able to have ALL:ALL in /etc/hosts.deny and then have a "portmap: 132.177." in /etc/hosts.allow and everything worked fine. With FC3T2, I get "RPC: Authentication error; why = Failed (unspecified error)" errors on all my clients. Anyone else seeing this? Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133906 tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From swardell at team.bantu.com Tue Sep 28 18:12:20 2004 From: swardell at team.bantu.com (Steve Wardell) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:12:20 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 No sound In-Reply-To: <20040927221052.ADA1E73A81@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040927221052.ADA1E73A81@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096395141.3813.7.camel@moe.intraactive.com> I'm experiencing a similar problem with a Dell 4550 workstation. I don't see anything in the startup log about the sound detection. When I run system-config-soundcard it shows that it detects an Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC'97 Audo Controller and lists module snd-interl8x0. When I try the test sound, I get no sound. The console of that app shows: Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on] Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on] Playing WAVE '/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/sound-sample.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo Any thoughts on this or is this? Thanks, Steve > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:41:57 +0200 > From: Michael Schwendt > Subject: Re: FC3T2 No sound > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <20040927234157.0fd01d89.fedora at wir-sind-cool.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:24:20 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > > > FC1 I had sound. > > FC2 I had sound but it was barely audible. > > FC3T2 I have no sound at all. > > > > I have turned up everything in the sound control box and made sue my sound > > is unmuted. > > What about alsamixer? And what audio application(s) do you use for > testing? From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Tue Sep 28 18:26:58 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:26:58 +0100 Subject: Upgrading Evolution 1.4 to 2.0 Message-ID: <1096396018.3606.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, A colleague previously running FC2 has tried upgrading to FC3t2. Since no GRUB entry was made for FC3t2 during the install process (only Win2000 was listed, the newly installed FC3t2 was not accessible!) she tried a new install erasing the FC2 partition. She had backups of her ~/evolution folder and wants to migrate the mail to Evolution 2 (having updated the shipped package to 2.0). The ~/evolution folder is copied to the user directory, Evolution starts and appears to ignore this folder. Has anyone been able to migrate their Evolution mail folders to 2.0 this way? I can't find any documentation on this. (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132878#c7 reports the GRUB issue. I realize I could have update grub.conf but couldn't be bothered to work out the entry). Thanks in advance, Leon... From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue Sep 28 18:32:28 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:32:28 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 No sound In-Reply-To: <1096395141.3813.7.camel@moe.intraactive.com> References: <20040927221052.ADA1E73A81@hormel.redhat.com> <1096395141.3813.7.camel@moe.intraactive.com> Message-ID: <1096396348.3610.44.camel@kyrre> You migth try to file a bug. Or take a look at #fedora-devel, fedora-bugweek, fedora etc. on freenode tir, 28.09.2004 kl. 20.12 skrev Steve Wardell: > I'm experiencing a similar problem with a Dell 4550 workstation. I don't > see anything in the startup log about the sound detection. When I run > system-config-soundcard it shows that it detects an Intel Corp. > 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC'97 Audo Controller and lists module snd-interl8x0. > When I try the test sound, I get no sound. The console of that app > shows: > > Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 > Capabilities: pvolume pswitch > Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right > Limits: Playback 0 - 31 > Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on] > Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on] > Playing WAVE '/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/sound-sample.wav' : > Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo > > Any thoughts on this or is this? > > Thanks, > Steve > > > Message: 10 > > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:41:57 +0200 > > From: Michael Schwendt > > Subject: Re: FC3T2 No sound > > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > > > Message-ID: <20040927234157.0fd01d89.fedora at wir-sind-cool.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:24:20 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > > > > > FC1 I had sound. > > > FC2 I had sound but it was barely audible. > > > FC3T2 I have no sound at all. > > > > > > I have turned up everything in the sound control box and made sue my sound > > > is unmuted. > > > > What about alsamixer? And what audio application(s) do you use for > > testing? From dmalcolm at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 18:36:57 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:36:57 -0400 Subject: Upgrading Evolution 1.4 to 2.0 In-Reply-To: <1096396018.3606.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096396018.3606.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096396618.5521.5.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 19:26 +0100, Leon Stringer wrote: > Hi, > > A colleague previously running FC2 has tried upgrading to FC3t2. Since > no GRUB entry was made for FC3t2 during the install process (only > Win2000 was listed, the newly installed FC3t2 was not accessible!) she > tried a new install erasing the FC2 partition. > > She had backups of her ~/evolution folder and wants to migrate the mail > to Evolution 2 (having updated the shipped package to 2.0). The > ~/evolution folder is copied to the user directory, Evolution starts and > appears to ignore this folder. > > Has anyone been able to migrate their Evolution mail folders to 2.0 this > way? I can't find any documentation on this. Try shutting down evolution, running gconf-editor, and browsing to /apps/evolution. You should see two keys "last_version" and "version". Try editing them to "1.4.6" (the version she was running with the old data), and then restart Evolution. It should now try to migrate the data from ~/evolution to ~/.evolution (it might trash any data you've set up in ~/.evolution since the reinstall, though) Does this fix it? > > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132878#c7 reports > the GRUB issue. I realize I could have update grub.conf but couldn't be > bothered to work out the entry). > > Thanks in advance, > > Leon... > From sonnyvn at linus.mitre.org Tue Sep 28 18:44:20 2004 From: sonnyvn at linus.mitre.org (sonnyvn at linus.mitre.org) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3T2 No sound In-Reply-To: <20040928183708.4505E74223@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040928183708.4505E74223@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <38119.127.0.0.1.1096397060.squirrel@localhost> Hey guys, This is what I did to get sound to work for me. I downloaded the system-config-soundcard-1.2.9-1.noarch.rpm from download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/, rpm -Uvh it, and then ran it. Sonny > Message: 16 > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:32:28 +0200 > From: Kyrre Ness Sjobak > Subject: Re: FC3T2 No sound > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <1096396348.3610.44.camel at kyrre> > Content-Type: text/plain > > You migth try to file a bug. Or take a look at #fedora-devel, > fedora-bugweek, fedora etc. on freenode > > tir, 28.09.2004 kl. 20.12 skrev Steve Wardell: >> I'm experiencing a similar problem with a Dell 4550 workstation. I don't >> see anything in the startup log about the sound detection. When I run >> system-config-soundcard it shows that it detects an Intel Corp. >> 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC'97 Audo Controller and lists module snd-interl8x0. >> When I try the test sound, I get no sound. The console of that app >> shows: >> >> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 >> Capabilities: pvolume pswitch >> Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right >> Limits: Playback 0 - 31 >> Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on] >> Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on] >> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/sound-sample.wav' : >> Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo >> >> Any thoughts on this or is this? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> >> > Message: 10 >> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:41:57 +0200 >> > From: Michael Schwendt >> > Subject: Re: FC3T2 No sound >> > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> > >> > Message-ID: <20040927234157.0fd01d89.fedora at wir-sind-cool.org> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> > >> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:24:20 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: >> > >> > > FC1 I had sound. >> > > FC2 I had sound but it was barely audible. >> > > FC3T2 I have no sound at all. >> > > >> > > I have turned up everything in the sound control box and made sue my >> sound >> > > is unmuted. >> > >> > What about alsamixer? And what audio application(s) do you use for >> > testing? From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue Sep 28 18:50:18 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:50:18 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 No sound In-Reply-To: <38119.127.0.0.1.1096397060.squirrel@localhost> References: <20040928183708.4505E74223@hormel.redhat.com> <38119.127.0.0.1.1096397060.squirrel@localhost> Message-ID: <1096397418.3610.56.camel@kyrre> Hmm... Which core did that belong to? It did not detect my card... I have 1.2.8-1 - but i also have an oldish, integrated into the compaq motherboard, ESS soundcard. tir, 28.09.2004 kl. 20.44 skrev sonnyvn at linus.mitre.org: > Hey guys, > > This is what I did to get sound to work for me. > > I downloaded the system-config-soundcard-1.2.9-1.noarch.rpm from > download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/, > rpm -Uvh it, and then ran it. > > > Sonny > > > > > > Message: 16 > > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:32:28 +0200 > > From: Kyrre Ness Sjobak > > Subject: Re: FC3T2 No sound > > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > > > Message-ID: <1096396348.3610.44.camel at kyrre> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > You migth try to file a bug. Or take a look at #fedora-devel, > > fedora-bugweek, fedora etc. on freenode > > > > tir, 28.09.2004 kl. 20.12 skrev Steve Wardell: > >> I'm experiencing a similar problem with a Dell 4550 workstation. I don't > >> see anything in the startup log about the sound detection. When I run > >> system-config-soundcard it shows that it detects an Intel Corp. > >> 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC'97 Audo Controller and lists module snd-interl8x0. > >> When I try the test sound, I get no sound. The console of that app > >> shows: > >> > >> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 > >> Capabilities: pvolume pswitch > >> Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right > >> Limits: Playback 0 - 31 > >> Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on] > >> Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on] > >> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/sound-sample.wav' : > >> Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo > >> > >> Any thoughts on this or is this? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Steve > >> > >> > Message: 10 > >> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:41:57 +0200 > >> > From: Michael Schwendt > >> > Subject: Re: FC3T2 No sound > >> > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >> > > >> > Message-ID: <20040927234157.0fd01d89.fedora at wir-sind-cool.org> > >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >> > > >> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:24:20 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > >> > > >> > > FC1 I had sound. > >> > > FC2 I had sound but it was barely audible. > >> > > FC3T2 I have no sound at all. > >> > > > >> > > I have turned up everything in the sound control box and made sue my > >> sound > >> > > is unmuted. > >> > > >> > What about alsamixer? And what audio application(s) do you use for > >> > testing? From smooge at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 19:05:12 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:05:12 -0600 Subject: /var/tmp/badcontext Message-ID: <80d7e409040928120549a367d8@mail.gmail.com> What should users do with the files listed in /var/tmp/badcontext? For the last 3 days I have had over 10000 files listed since I installed it. I was wondering if I should be running some command after a yum upgrade that I didnt know about ;). 17287 /var/tmp/badcontext.HNjBUG2517 52272 /var/tmp/badcontext.XzqEZB4859 22518 /var/tmp/badcontext.YGZFP27816 -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From fedora at andrewfarris.com Tue Sep 28 19:31:12 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:31:12 -0700 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 21:37 -0400, Dwaine Garden wrote: > Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > >On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:10:36 +0200, Lars wrote: > > > >If nvidia and composite is working for you. Can you add comments to > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133679 > > > > > >-jef > > > > > > > > > Works fine for myself. I updated the bug report with the log file from > xorg. > > > Dwaine. > Also working for me and I will post. I am using the Livna.org nvidia- glx package, but since the kernel module is not available for the FC3t2 kernel (and I didn't want to rebuild the package yet while testing) I just installed nodeps (the module was the only problem). The Livna.org script nvidia-config-display does not recognize the Section Extensions as valid for the xorg.conf, I presume because ixf86config has a bug and that needs to be added as valid syntax. Anyway, it will remove that section from the config or complain and fail. (I'll file this somewhere when I decide where, its not really the Livna packages problem afaict. Composition is working nicely with Gnome and XFCE4. I use this setup: xcompmgr -c -C -f -F -o 1.0 -I 0.08 & (the -I switch fixes the menus being extremely slow responding, faster fade in time, the -C switch fixes several apps having issues.. gkrellm for example has several window areas that shadow incorrectly) -- Andrew From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Tue Sep 28 18:38:18 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: perl-Filter .bak files Message-ID: <20040928183818.9902.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I don't do much with perl....so I'm looking for a second opinion. I was looking at the perl-Filter rpm and did a rpm -qpl and saw this: /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/cpp.pm /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/cpp.pm.bak /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/exec.pm /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/exec.pm.bak /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/sh.pm /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/sh.pm.bak Are these .bak files supposed to be there? diff'ing them with the non-bak file shows no difference. Is there any valid use for these files? -Steve Grubb __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From reader at newsguy.com Tue Sep 28 19:42:41 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:42:41 -0500 Subject: yum targets for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <4159A66D.1040009@gmx.de> (shrek-m@gmx.de's message of "Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:59:09 +0200") References: <4159A66D.1040009@gmx.de> Message-ID: "shrek-m at gmx.de" writes: >> <>I'm confused... is rawhide the yum target for both >> FC3T2 and FC3T1? >> [...] >> Is this normal? > > > yes > > ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/README Thanks... the url however does nothing to explain what I was confused about. That is, how is it that two different candidates get their files from the same place. I think I'm still not understanding the process. Isn't FC3t1 still being tested? If so then how is it that t2 uses the same base files. How is t1 different than t2? From jgeorgeson at lopht.net Tue Sep 28 19:45:57 2004 From: jgeorgeson at lopht.net (Justin Georgeson) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:45:57 -0500 Subject: yum targets for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: References: <4159A66D.1040009@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4159BF75.6070204@lopht.net> Harry Putnam wrote: > "shrek-m at gmx.de" writes: > > >>><>I'm confused... is rawhide the yum target for both >>>FC3T2 and FC3T1? >>>[...] >>>Is this normal? >> >> >>yes >> >>ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/README > > > Thanks... the url however does nothing to explain what I was confused > about. That is, how is it that two different candidates get their > files from the same place. I think I'm still not understanding the > process. Isn't FC3t1 still being tested? If so then how is it that > t2 uses the same base files. How is t1 different than t2? don't consider them release candidates. consider them snapshots of the rawhide tree. t1 is different because it came out first, that's it. -- ; Justin Georgeson ; "Free the mallocs, delete the news" ; http://boycott-riaa.com ; http://www.openoffice.org From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue Sep 28 20:01:11 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: yum targets for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: References: <4159A66D.1040009@gmx.de> Message-ID: <3747.12.29.16.103.1096401671.squirrel@whooper.org> Harry Putnam said: [snip] > > Thanks... the url however does nothing to explain what I was confused > about. That is, how is it that two different candidates get their files > from the same place. I think I'm still not understanding the process. > Isn't FC3t1 still being tested? If so then how is it that > t2 uses the same base files. How is t1 different than t2? What purpose would there be to testing t1 after the release of t2? They are both just snapshots of Rawhide anyway. The purpose of having a test "release" is mainly to test Anaconda. -- William Hooper From dwalsh at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 20:07:22 2004 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:07:22 -0400 Subject: /var/tmp/badcontext In-Reply-To: <80d7e409040928120549a367d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d7e409040928120549a367d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4159C47A.8010703@redhat.com> Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: >What should users do with the files listed in /var/tmp/badcontext? > >For the last 3 days I have had over 10000 files listed since I >installed it. I was wondering if I should be running some command >after a yum upgrade that I didnt know about ;). > > 17287 /var/tmp/badcontext.HNjBUG2517 > 52272 /var/tmp/badcontext.XzqEZB4859 > 22518 /var/tmp/badcontext.YGZFP27816 > > > > restorecon -f /var/tmp/badcontext.YGZFP27816 Will fix the context, then delete the files. We are investigating how do handle this better. Also some of the bad contexts are not really bad, IE the tools not smart enough to realize that the context is valid. Setfiles is just reporting files that don't match the regular expessions in the file_contexts file. So cache files created by mozilla get marked as bad even though they are valid. From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue Sep 28 20:09:55 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:09:55 -0700 Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <1686.12.29.16.103.1096394770.squirrel@whooper.org> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> <415994E2.5010605@BitWagon.com> <1686.12.29.16.103.1096394770.squirrel@whooper.org> Message-ID: <4159C513.4070500@BitWagon.com> William Hooper wrote: > John Reiser said: >>1. Wait until all packages have been downloaded before requiring >>interactivity. Dribble the individual unsigned warnings into a list box as >>they are detected, but do not pause for user OK until all packages have >>been downloaded. > > > up2date --nosig -du I don't understand this suggestion. "--nosig" means do not use GPG to check package signatures, and overrides the configuration option if any. However, if the package has a signature, then I want up2date to check the signature. Thus it seems that using --nosig will defeat the checking that could be done. If a package has no signature, then I want up2date to post the package name to a scrolling list box, but do not stop for interaction until all packages have been downloaded. Neither "man up2date" nor any file in /usr/share/doc/ up2date* contains the string "du", so the argument "-du" seems to be undefined. > >>2. Automatically omit unsigned packages: from the download if possible, >>else from the install. This may cause other package installls to fail >>because of required dependencies, etc. > > > How do you know if a package is signed without downloading it? By having an agent (or summary file) at the repository which keeps track, and having up2date query and use the information. -- From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue Sep 28 20:12:31 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:12:31 +0200 Subject: perl-Filter .bak files In-Reply-To: <20040928183818.9902.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040928183818.9902.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040928221231.5e38c0ea.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:38:18 -0700 (PDT), Steve G wrote: > Hi, > > I don't do much with perl....so I'm looking for a second opinion. I was looking > at the perl-Filter rpm and did a rpm -qpl and saw this: > > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/cpp.pm > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/cpp.pm.bak > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/exec.pm > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/exec.pm.bak > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/sh.pm > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi/Filter/sh.pm.bak > > Are these .bak files supposed to be there? diff'ing them with the non-bak file > shows no difference. Is there any valid use for these files? None. They are not needed and can be deleted. They are just backup files created by Makefile.PL, which enables/disables the "use warnings" pragma in dependence on the Perl version. This is one patch how to get rid of them: diff -Nur Filter-1.30-orig/Makefile.PL Filter-1.30/Makefile.PL --- Filter-1.30-orig/Makefile.PL 2003-08-16 16:25:36.000000000 +0200 +++ Filter-1.30/Makefile.PL 2004-09-28 22:06:08.638264600 +0200 @@ -42,10 +42,10 @@ t/tee.t ); -if ($] < 5.006001) - { oldWarnings(@files) } -else - { newWarnings(@files) } +#if ($] < 5.006001) +# { oldWarnings(@files) } +#else +# { newWarnings(@files) } WriteMakefile( -- Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) - Linux 2.6.8-1.541 loadavg: 1.68 1.67 1.33 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Filter-1.30-rmbak.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 480 bytes Desc: not available URL: From smooge at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 20:13:52 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:13:52 -0600 Subject: /var/tmp/badcontext In-Reply-To: <4159C47A.8010703@redhat.com> References: <80d7e409040928120549a367d8@mail.gmail.com> <4159C47A.8010703@redhat.com> Message-ID: <80d7e40904092813135dafe4be@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:07:22 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > >What should users do with the files listed in /var/tmp/badcontext? > > > >For the last 3 days I have had over 10000 files listed since I > >installed it. I was wondering if I should be running some command > >after a yum upgrade that I didnt know about ;). > > > > 17287 /var/tmp/badcontext.HNjBUG2517 > > 52272 /var/tmp/badcontext.XzqEZB4859 > > 22518 /var/tmp/badcontext.YGZFP27816 > > > restorecon -f /var/tmp/badcontext.YGZFP27816 > > Will fix the context, then delete the files. We are investigating how > do handle this better. Also > some of the bad contexts are not really bad, IE the tools not smart > enough to realize that the context is > valid. Setfiles is just reporting files that don't match the regular > expessions in the file_contexts file. > > So cache files created by mozilla get marked as bad even though they are > valid. When you say delete.. do you mean it whacks the file on the disk or some other copy... Looking at the files.. my entire home directory is considered to be in an invalid context. I am not sure I want those files deleted.. And I am not sure /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.9 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2 /usr/lib/libsmbclient.so.0 /usr/lib/sendmail /usr/lib/libboost_signals.so.1 /usr/lib/libboost_unit_test_framework.so.1 /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive /usr/lib/libboost_thread.so.1 /usr/lib/libkrbafs.so.0 /usr/lib/libboost_filesystem.so.1 would be good to kill.. I wouldnt mind losing all of /etc/gconf :). Is there anything else that can be done? -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Sep 28 20:13:48 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:13:48 -0400 Subject: yp-tools (ypbind) not binding to domain Message-ID: <20040928201348.GA29284@wolves.durham.nc.us> Fresh install of rawhide 2004-09-28 ypbind fails to find the NIS domain. It was working with the install of 2004-09-27. Anyone else using yp? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I was wondering if I should be running some command >>>after a yum upgrade that I didnt know about ;). >>> >>> 17287 /var/tmp/badcontext.HNjBUG2517 >>> 52272 /var/tmp/badcontext.XzqEZB4859 >>> 22518 /var/tmp/badcontext.YGZFP27816 >>> >>> >>> >>restorecon -f /var/tmp/badcontext.YGZFP27816 >> >>Will fix the context, then delete the files. We are investigating how >>do handle this better. Also >>some of the bad contexts are not really bad, IE the tools not smart >>enough to realize that the context is >>valid. Setfiles is just reporting files that don't match the regular >>expessions in the file_contexts file. >> >>So cache files created by mozilla get marked as bad even though they are >>valid. >> >> > > > I meant delete the /var/tmp/badcontext.* >When you say delete.. do you mean it whacks the file on the disk or >some other copy... >Looking at the files.. my entire home directory is considered to be in >an invalid context. I am not sure I want those files deleted.. And I >am not sure > >/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.9 >/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 >/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2 >/usr/lib/libsmbclient.so.0 >/usr/lib/sendmail >/usr/lib/libboost_signals.so.1 >/usr/lib/libboost_unit_test_framework.so.1 >/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive >/usr/lib/libboost_thread.so.1 >/usr/lib/libkrbafs.so.0 >/usr/lib/libboost_filesystem.so.1 > >would be good to kill.. I wouldnt mind losing all of /etc/gconf :). > >Is there anything else that can be done? > > > > > From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue Sep 28 20:19:05 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:19:05 +0200 Subject: perl-Filter .bak files In-Reply-To: <20040928221231.5e38c0ea.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <20040928183818.9902.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> <20040928221231.5e38c0ea.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <20040928221905.5b23f462.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:12:31 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > -if ($] < 5.006001) > - { oldWarnings(@files) } > -else > - { newWarnings(@files) } > +#if ($] < 5.006001) > +# { oldWarnings(@files) } > +#else > +# { newWarnings(@files) } Needless to say (but before someone feels a need to mention it nevertheless), alternatively, if one wants to keep the logic in the Makefile.PL, one just removes them after installation in the build root. -- Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) - Linux 2.6.8-1.541 loadavg: 1.42 1.37 1.31 From tjb at unh.edu Tue Sep 28 20:18:40 2004 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:18:40 -0400 Subject: yp-tools (ypbind) not binding to domain In-Reply-To: <20040928201348.GA29284@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040928201348.GA29284@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1096402720.4678.2.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 16:13 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > Fresh install of rawhide 2004-09-28 > ypbind fails to find the NIS domain. It was working with the install of > 2004-09-27. > Anyone else using yp? I just felt that pain too. I fixed it by downgrading glibc. It buggers ypbind, ypserv, and nfs statd I think. ypbind says this: [tjb at katratzi tjb]$ /sbin/ypbind -debug parsing config file Trying entry: domain rcc broadcast parsed domain 'rcc' broadcast add_server() domain: rcc, broadcast [Welcome to ypbind-mt, version 1.17.2] get_myaddress: getifaddrs: Success [tjb at katratzi tjb]$ Similar error with ypserv although I can't debug more on the server as I needed it running. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From ggw at wolves.homeip.net Tue Sep 28 20:20:06 2004 From: ggw at wolves.homeip.net (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: yp-tools (ypbind) not binding to domain References: <20040928201348.GA29284@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:13:48 -0400, Gregory shaped electrons to write: > Fresh install of rawhide 2004-09-28 > ypbind fails to find the NIS domain. It was working with the install of > 2004-09-27. > Anyone else using yp? To follow myself again - there are no avcs or anything but I'm suspecting a SElinux connection since the policies changed, could also be a glibc problem. looking for confirmation before bugzillaing the problem. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From tjb at unh.edu Tue Sep 28 20:23:56 2004 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:23:56 -0400 Subject: yp-tools (ypbind) not binding to domain In-Reply-To: <1096402720.4678.2.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <20040928201348.GA29284@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1096402720.4678.2.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1096403036.4678.4.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 16:18 -0400, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 16:13 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > Fresh install of rawhide 2004-09-28 > > ypbind fails to find the NIS domain. It was working with the install of > > 2004-09-27. > > Anyone else using yp? > > I just felt that pain too. I fixed it by downgrading glibc. It buggers > ypbind, ypserv, and nfs statd I think. ypbind says this: > > [tjb at katratzi tjb]$ /sbin/ypbind -debug > parsing config file > Trying entry: domain rcc broadcast > parsed domain 'rcc' broadcast > add_server() domain: rcc, broadcast > [Welcome to ypbind-mt, version 1.17.2] > > get_myaddress: getifaddrs: Success > [tjb at katratzi tjb]$ > > Similar error with ypserv although I can't debug more on the server as I > needed it running. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133982 tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From nalin at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 20:26:00 2004 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:26:00 -0400 Subject: /var/tmp/badcontext In-Reply-To: <80d7e40904092813135dafe4be@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d7e409040928120549a367d8@mail.gmail.com> <4159C47A.8010703@redhat.com> <80d7e40904092813135dafe4be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040928202600.GD15529@redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 02:13:52PM -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:07:22 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > > > >What should users do with the files listed in /var/tmp/badcontext? > > > > > >For the last 3 days I have had over 10000 files listed since I > > >installed it. I was wondering if I should be running some command > > >after a yum upgrade that I didnt know about ;). > > > > > > 17287 /var/tmp/badcontext.HNjBUG2517 > > > 52272 /var/tmp/badcontext.XzqEZB4859 > > > 22518 /var/tmp/badcontext.YGZFP27816 > > > > > restorecon -f /var/tmp/badcontext.YGZFP27816 > > > > Will fix the context, then delete the files. [snip] > > When you say delete.. do you mean it whacks the file on the disk or > some other copy... Yikes! No, running restorecon will reset the file contexts, after which you can/should delete the /var/tmp/badcontext.blahfoo file. Nalin From reader at newsguy.com Tue Sep 28 20:27:13 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:27:13 -0500 Subject: yum targets for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <3747.12.29.16.103.1096401671.squirrel@whooper.org> (William Hooper's message of "Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:01:11 -0400 (EDT)") References: <4159A66D.1040009@gmx.de> <3747.12.29.16.103.1096401671.squirrel@whooper.org> Message-ID: "William Hooper" writes: > What purpose would there be to testing t1 after the release of t2? They > are both just snapshots of Rawhide anyway. The purpose of having a test > "release" is mainly to test Anaconda. ahh this clear it up for me. Thanks. Part of what was confusing me is that fedora-release-2-rawhide.noarch.rpm never gets installed on a full update. From linux_4ever at yahoo.com Tue Sep 28 19:25:41 2004 From: linux_4ever at yahoo.com (Steve G) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: /var/tmp/badcontext In-Reply-To: <80d7e409040928120549a367d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040928192541.68579.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> >What should users do with the files listed in /var/tmp/badcontext? This comes from fixfiles.cron. I have been trying to send patches to get rid of these files or do something better with them. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131707 for more discussion. -Steve Grubb _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue Sep 28 20:51:16 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <4159C513.4070500@BitWagon.com> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> <415994E2.5010605@BitWagon.com> <1686.12.29.16.103.1096394770.squirrel@whooper.org> <4159C513.4070500@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <3173.12.29.16.103.1096404676.squirrel@whooper.org> John Reiser said: > William Hooper wrote: > >> John Reiser said: >> > >>> 1. Wait until all packages have been downloaded before requiring >>> interactivity. Dribble the individual unsigned warnings into a list >>> box as they are detected, but do not pause for user OK until all >>> packages have been downloaded. >> >> >> up2date --nosig -du > > I don't understand this suggestion. "--nosig" means do not use GPG to > check package signatures, and overrides the configuration option if any. Correct, so all packages are downloaded regardless if there is a signature or not. > However, > if the package has a signature, then I want up2date to check the > signature. Thus it seems that using --nosig will defeat the checking that > could be done. If a package has no signature, then I want up2date to post > the package name to a scrolling list box, but do not stop for interaction > until all packages have been downloaded. As above, this will download all packages regardless. Now when you re-run up2date it will check for signatures (but will stop at each package). > Neither "man up2date" nor any > file in /usr/share/doc/ up2date* contains the string "du", so the argument > "-du" seems to be undefined. As with most commands, you can combine options into one statement. The docs contain the strings "d" and "u", using them together gives you "du". >> >>> 2. Automatically omit unsigned packages: from the download if >>> possible, else from the install. This may cause other package >>> installls to fail because of required dependencies, etc. >> >> >> How do you know if a package is signed without downloading it? >> > > By having an agent (or summary file) at the repository which keeps track, > and having up2date query and use the information. Good luck with that, especially since we are talking the Rawhide repo, where things being out of sync and broken don't just happen but are expected. -- William Hooper From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue Sep 28 21:00:45 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:00:45 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096405241.3257.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mar 28/09/2004 ? 18:12, Jeff Spaleta a ?crit : > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:20:50 +0200, Matias Feliciano > wrote: > > Fedora Core => signed sometimes. > > Correction... the development tree..specifically has unsigned > packages..and that is an inherent "feature" of the development tree. > Signing takes finite time and involves a human to do it rpm --addsign *.rpm. One time per day (for rawhide). I don't know if rpm can sign in batch mode. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From rpa4email at rogers.com Tue Sep 28 21:05:47 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:05:47 -0400 Subject: glibc problem. In-Reply-To: <20040924152830.GD31909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096038271.6935.25.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> <20040924152830.GD31909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096405547.6874.8.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> > When I reverted back to glibc-2.3.3-54 (common, header, devel) the > > problem went away. > > The most important change between -54 and -55 was the set {res,re,e}[ug]id > fix. > These functions must affect the whole process, while previously they > impacted on the current thread only. > > Can you see if your app is 1) threaded 2) calls one of these functions? > (you can see it e.g. in LD_DEBUG=all dump). > > Another change (related) was that in NPTL SIGRTMIN increased, so if > the application hardcodes signal 33 for something instead of using >SIGRTMIN, > the problem might be there. The developer has code to work around broken threads in glibc and asked me to compile with a commandline that treats bypasses the workaround. This fails with: !seteuid FAILED Operation not permitted Would that mean that threads are still broken or is it the code that is not handling the threads properly? (Would you require a code snippet for this as well?) And I still get: Got signal (24964608) Signal has no handler (unexpected) The number within the brackets changes upon each run, but is constant during each run. He asked my to post this code snippet that is the signal handling thread to see if you could catch why unexpected signals are happening: (Please excuse any poor formatting due to cut and paste operations. ) As always, the code is available at cvs.synchro.net static void handle_sigs(void) { int sig; sigset_t sigs; char str[1024]; thread_up(NULL,TRUE,TRUE); if (is_daemon) { /* Write the standard .pid file if running as a daemon */ /* Must be here so signals are sent to the correct thread */ if(pidf!=NULL) { fprintf(pidf,"%d",getpid()); fclose(pidf); } } /* Set up blocked signals */ sigemptyset(&sigs); sigaddset(&sigs,SIGINT); sigaddset(&sigs,SIGQUIT); sigaddset(&sigs,SIGABRT); sigaddset(&sigs,SIGTERM); sigaddset(&sigs,SIGHUP); sigaddset(&sigs,SIGALRM); /* sigaddset(&sigs,SIGPIPE); */ pthread_sigmask(SIG_BLOCK,&sigs,NULL); while(1) { sigwait(&sigs,&sig); /* wait here until signaled */ sprintf(str," Got signal (%d)",sig); log_puts(LOG_NOTICE,str); switch(sig) { /* QUIT-type signals */ case SIGINT: case SIGQUIT: case SIGABRT: case SIGTERM: _sighandler_quit(sig); break; case SIGHUP: /* rerun */ _sighandler_rerun(sig); default: sprintf(str," Signal has no handler (unexpected)"); log_puts (LOG_NOTICE,str); } } } This is the signal handling thread... it's the bit that's tossing of the errors you're getting (post those too). Thanks for your time Jakub, I imagine that you are busy :) Rob. From alan at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 22:06:27 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:06:27 -0400 Subject: Box from hell testing for FC3t2 Message-ID: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> I loaded FC3 test2 onto the box from hell which is my distribution torture tester. It failed with flying colours - FC3t2 base kernel would not boot in standard configuration because someone enabled EDD support which crashes it - The SCSI layer blew up in several ways (#133998, #134001) - The HAL layer goes bananas (#130649) - The 3c59x driver breaks (#134000) - Several of the USB hubs fail to initialize (not bugzilla'd yet need to do some debugging). - Badness in interruptible_sleep_on from lock_down - PS/2 mouse does not work - hal_lpadmin is segfaulting randomly - PCI allocation produced unhappy looking messages Sep 28 19:27:48 localhost kernel: PCI: Failed to allocate I/O resource #0:80 at b000 for 0000:05:0c.0 etc It even managed to rename my loopback device eth0 and create devices with names like dev1536. To be fair its a pretty brutal test box but the results are not so good as I'd hoped. Upgrading to a 2.6.9rc2 kernel fixes nothing but breaks r8169 and via-velocity ethernet drivers too Alan From mister.ribbit at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 22:09:14 2004 From: mister.ribbit at gmail.com (Mister Ribbit) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:09:14 -0700 Subject: ALSA drivers - Intel HD Audio Message-ID: I have the new Intel HD Audio on board my Intel D915GEV motherboard, and I'm trying to get it working. I think I can do it if I compile the driver that Intel supplies on their web page, but they say that the driver has been handed off to the ALSA project, and I've found it in the alsa-driver 1.0.6 package (but not 1.0.5). I was wondering if FC3 would ship with an updated kernel to have the 1.0.6 driver (or the new 1.0.6a) so that it would be working straight out of the box in the future. Or, maybe you are on that set of drivers, and somehow have lost the azx driver for this hardware. Thanks! Ciao! Ryan From russell at coker.com.au Tue Sep 28 22:11:33 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:11:33 +1000 Subject: bhcompile Message-ID: <200409290811.33884.russell@coker.com.au> warning: user bhcompile does not exist - using root warning: group bhcompile does not exist - using root warning: user bhcompile does not exist - using root What are the above messages about? I started seeing them in a "yum update" run just after upgrading nscd. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue Sep 28 22:12:05 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:12:05 -0400 Subject: bhcompile In-Reply-To: <200409290811.33884.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200409290811.33884.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1096409525.17073.46.camel@binkley> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 08:11 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > warning: user bhcompile does not exist - using root > warning: group bhcompile does not exist - using root > warning: user bhcompile does not exist - using root > > What are the above messages about? I started seeing them in a "yum update" > run just after upgrading nscd. > it means the file ownerships in some package did not get in %files so it assumed the name/group of the user/process who built the packages. -sv From drepper at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 22:53:01 2004 From: drepper at redhat.com (Ulrich Drepper) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:53:01 -0700 Subject: glibc problem. In-Reply-To: <1096405547.6874.8.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> References: <1096038271.6935.25.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> <20040924152830.GD31909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096405547.6874.8.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Message-ID: <4159EB4D.1090207@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I add missing support for the new internal symbol in a couple of places now. The result will likely be in glibc-2.3.3-60. Please try it out when it becomes available. - -- ? Ulrich Drepper ? Red Hat, Inc. ? 444 Castro St ? Mountain View, CA ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBWetN2ijCOnn/RHQRAj57AJ90giBesNk3hqW8zzXzBfC7UJGc0ACfU2AS duMZ4Xg2qy/h+z5XG69lL/8= =J1nt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From drepper at redhat.com Tue Sep 28 23:12:01 2004 From: drepper at redhat.com (Ulrich Drepper) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:12:01 -0700 Subject: yp-tools (ypbind) not binding to domain In-Reply-To: <20040928201348.GA29284@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040928201348.GA29284@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <4159EFC1.1050006@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gregory Woodbury wrote: > ypbind fails to find the NIS domain. It was working with the install of > 2004-09-27. Fixed in the CVS glibc. glibc 2.3.3-60 will most likely contain this change. - -- ? Ulrich Drepper ? Red Hat, Inc. ? 444 Castro St ? Mountain View, CA ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBWe/B2ijCOnn/RHQRAls6AJ9biNX87+EApH+v1oqe5LrxYVsHXgCfbkkA 2x4VtMqrRFPLd6B2nixtPto= =qkWy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rquint at vcccd.net Wed Sep 29 00:21:29 2004 From: rquint at vcccd.net (Richard Quint) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:21:29 -0700 Subject: Anyone else have these problems [bugs?] Message-ID: <415A0009.2040403@vcccd.net> I've just tried installing Fedora Core 3 Test 2 on two machines. One had Fedora 2. When I tried installing FC3Test2 over FC2 grub lost the option of booting to Fedora, leaving just other (Win XP). After doing a clean install of FC3T2 grub now gives both options---boot to Fedora or other. I found someone else had this problem by looking at the latest digest. However, I haven't noticed anyone having the other problems that I have had with both installations. 1) When you create launchers on or save a file to your [Gnome] desktop in an application (Maple 9.5) they don't appear until you log out and then log in again. 2) The settings in fstab for CDROMs and DVDROMS are no longer iso9660. No problem changing them, but for a new user who tries to use a CD with separate Windows, Linux and Mac installation files they see the Mac files not the Linux files. (This happened with the installation disk for Maple 9.5.) 3) There are problems with Java in Epiphany. Although the default is to have Java turned on it doesn't work and there is no indication where to put a plugin. 4) The default jvm (gij) doesn't work but, when I used the JRE that comes with Maple or Sun's own JRE I was able to successfully execute /java -jar myfile.jar 5) When changed my default browser to Firefox and created a symbolic link to the java plugin it showed as broken. When I tried right clicking on the .so file and selected make link, nothing happened. Anyone have any suggestions. From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 01:11:29 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:11:29 -0400 Subject: Anyone else have these problems [bugs?] In-Reply-To: <415A0009.2040403@vcccd.net> References: <415A0009.2040403@vcccd.net> Message-ID: <604aa791040928181135934f3@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:21:29 -0700, Richard Quint wrote: > 1) When you create launchers on or save a file to your [Gnome] desktop > in an application (Maple 9.5) they don't appear until you log out and > then log in again. Dont need to log out... you can open up a nautilus window for the Desktop subdirectory under your home directory and hit refresh and the new desktop entries magically appear. I would file this under gamin if its not already filed. I see this on my fc3t2 updated to rawhide as of this morning. So whatever is going on its still applicable. > 2) The settings in fstab for CDROMs and DVDROMS are no longer > iso9660. No problem changing them, but for a new user who tries to use > a CD with separate Windows, Linux and Mac installation files they see > the Mac files not the Linux files. (This happened with the installation > disk for Maple 9.5.) This is a hal bug/feature, so file it against hal if its not in bugzilla already. > 3) There are problems with Java in Epiphany. Although the default is > to have Java turned on it doesn't work and there is no indication where > to put a plugin. you mean where to put plugins in your home directory? > > 5) When changed my default browser to Firefox and created a symbolic > link to the java plugin it showed as broken. When I tried right > clicking on the .so file and selected make link, nothing happened. I have sun's jre working with firefox. If you have a broken symlink that strongly suggest to me that you aren't creating the symlink correctly. /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/: libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/java/jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so worksforme in firefox. rpm -q jre jre-1.5.0-rc -jef From lee_connell at hotmail.com Wed Sep 29 01:12:36 2004 From: lee_connell at hotmail.com (Lee Connell) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:12:36 -0400 Subject: firmware loading Message-ID: Hi guys, I'm having problems loading ipw2100 module. when i modprobe ipw2100 and then do a dmesg, it says: ipw2100: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Driver, 0.54 ipw2100: Copyright(c) 2003-2004 Intel Corporation ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:02.0[A] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5 ipw2100: 0000:02:02.0: Detected at mem: 0x90000000-0x90000FFF -> 22a08000, irq: 5 divert: allocating divert_blk for eth1 eth1: Using hotplug firmware load. eth1: Firmware 'ipw2100-1.2.fw' not available or load failed. eth1: ipw2100_get_firmware failed: -2 eth1: Failed to power on the adapter. eth1: Failed to start the firmware. divert: freeing divert_blk for eth1 I put the firmware in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware directory. I then noticed that firmware.agent was looking in /lib/firmware. I then placed the files in /lib/firmware and it worked. I rebooted the system and updated to todays updates 9/28/04. Not sure if the update did it or the reboot? but the firmware isn't loading again and i can't figure it out. Anyone got some ideas on what I should try next? Thanks, Lee From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 29 01:34:28 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:34:28 -0400 Subject: i810 rehash and dell inspiron 2600 In-Reply-To: <20040928130346.GB25803@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4156323B.20206@lopht.net> <41576280.5080002@sbcglobal.net> <4158C464.5020909@lopht.net> <4158E101.2050304@sbcglobal.net> <20040928130346.GB25803@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <415A1124.1070605@sbcglobal.net> Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 11:56:49PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>About the rant. I've noticed a similar situation on sites which are >>governed by the corporations sponsoring the product. Simple words like > > > Same with shopping sites, removing bad reviews of products and bending > ratings. Some at least seem to get the value of criticism but not many. > > >>to the BIOS for all platforms should be followed. If they don't want to >>do the work, they should open up enough information for an Optimized >>BIOS for the chipset can be achieved for Linux operation. > > > You assume they have the info themselves. That varies by vendor and machine, > and sometimes the reason we can't get info in the Linux community is that > the vendor would have confess to having bought the system in wholesale from > an external no-name builder. > > Alan > Good point, outsourcing seems to be pretty strong of a reality. I guess this idea is impractical then. I'll hold off on IBM's outsourcing blunder. Jim From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 29 01:35:40 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <1096405241.3257.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> <1096405241.3257.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1562.192.168.0.254.1096421740.squirrel@whooper.org> Matias Feliciano said: [snip] > > rpm --addsign *.rpm. One time per day (for rawhide). > I don't know if rpm can sign in batch mode. What security will that give you? Any hacked RPM just has to get into rawhide for 24 hours or less and it is automatically signed... -- William Hooper From veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu Wed Sep 29 01:46:21 2004 From: veguilla at hpcf.upr.edu (Ricardo Veguilla) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:46:21 -0400 Subject: Anyone else have these problems [bugs?] In-Reply-To: <604aa791040928181135934f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <415A0009.2040403@vcccd.net> <604aa791040928181135934f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096422381.27213.9.camel@ricardo.veguilla.net> On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 21:11 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:21:29 -0700, Richard Quint wrote: > > 1) When you create launchers on or save a file to your [Gnome] desktop > > in an application (Maple 9.5) they don't appear until you log out and > > then log in again. > > Dont need to log out... you can open up a nautilus window for the > Desktop subdirectory > under your home directory and hit refresh and the new desktop entries > magically appear. You can also press Ctrl-R (the keyboard shortcut for Refresh) on the desktop, just remember to click the desktop first to be sure its focused. -- Ricardo Veguilla From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed Sep 29 02:15:41 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:15:41 -0400 Subject: java-1.4.2-gcj-compat x86_64? Message-ID: On FC2T3 i386 I have java-1.4.2-gcj-compat, but not on x86_64. Yum says: yum install java-1.4.2-gcj-compat Setting up Install Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files developmen: ################################################## 3662/3662 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.91 - Development Tree Resolving Dependencies java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4 100% |=========================| 4.7 kB 00:00 Error: missing dep: libgcj for pkg java-1.4.2-gcj-compat From gstool at earthlink.net Wed Sep 29 02:58:58 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:58:58 -0500 Subject: Anyone successfully printing to a netgear print server with FC3T2? Message-ID: <415A24F2.9030105@earthlink.net> I am having no luck printing to my two printers connected to a Netgear PS110 print server in FC3T2. It works in FC1, FC2, but some network problem is blocking communication in FC3T2. It initially worked in FC3T1 until the last set of updates that made that system essentially a FC3T2 system. Does anyone else have this working in FC3T2? Thanks. Gerry Tool From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed Sep 29 03:23:30 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:23:30 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <1562.192.168.0.254.1096421740.squirrel@whooper.org> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> <1096405241.3257.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1562.192.168.0.254.1096421740.squirrel@whooper.org> Message-ID: <1096428207.3257.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 03:35, William Hooper a ?crit : > Matias Feliciano said: > [snip] > > > > rpm --addsign *.rpm. One time per day (for rawhide). > > I don't know if rpm can sign in batch mode. > > What security will that give you? Any hacked RPM just has to get into > rawhide for 24 hours or less and it is automatically signed... > If you don't trust Fedora, don't use Fedora. Do you trust you mirror ? If no, use signed rpms (if you find then). Without signature any rpm package that claim to come from Rawhide is suspect (even is Fedora servers are secure). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From rpa4email at rogers.com Wed Sep 29 03:26:06 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:26:06 -0400 Subject: glibc problem. In-Reply-To: <4159EB4D.1090207@redhat.com> References: <1096038271.6935.25.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> <20040924152830.GD31909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096405547.6874.8.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> <4159EB4D.1090207@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096428367.8398.3.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> On Tue, 2004-28-09 at 15:53 -0700, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > I add missing support for the new internal symbol in a couple of places > now. The result will likely be in glibc-2.3.3-60. Please try it out > when it becomes available. Thank you ... I'll will post the results :) Rob. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Wed Sep 29 04:58:09 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:58:09 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <415A40E1.3040701@rogers.com> Also working for me and I will post. I am using the Livna.org nvidia- >glx package, but since the kernel module is not available for the FC3t2 >kernel (and I didn't want to rebuild the package yet while testing) I >just installed nodeps (the module was the only problem). > >The Livna.org script nvidia-config-display does not recognize the >Section Extensions as valid for the xorg.conf, I presume because >ixf86config has a bug and that needs to be added as valid syntax. >Anyway, it will remove that section from the config or complain and >fail. (I'll file this somewhere when I decide where, its not really the >Livna packages problem afaict. > >Composition is working nicely with Gnome and XFCE4. I use this setup: >xcompmgr -c -C -f -F -o 1.0 -I 0.08 & >(the -I switch fixes the menus being extremely slow responding, faster >fade in time, the -C switch fixes several apps having issues.. gkrellm >for example has several window areas that shadow incorrectly) >-- Andrew > > > Ummm.... how come my version of xcompmgr does not have the same availabile parameters? This is what I get...... usage: xcompmgr [-d display] [-n] [-s] [-c] [-a] From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Wed Sep 29 05:01:10 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 01:01:10 -0400 Subject: no /dev/nst0 In-Reply-To: <41596F80.4060406@redhat.com> References: <4158B478.3070401@yahoo.com> <4158C3A2.20604@rogers.com> <41596F80.4060406@redhat.com> Message-ID: <415A4196.30000@rogers.com> Harald Hoyer wrote: > Neal D. Becker wrote: > >> Dwaine Garden wrote: >> >> >>> Allen Kistler wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Neal D. Becker wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> My scsi tape used to be /dev/nst0, now it doesn't seem to have been >>>>> created. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Same problem as "SCSI DVD drive not recognized on fc3-t2 kernel >>>> 2.6.8-1.584" >>>> >>>> Anything SCSI that's not a hard drive doesn't get created in /dev. >>>> >>> >>> At least everyone is giving udev a good testing... 8*) >>> >>> Dwaine. >>> >> >> >> Any suggested workaround in the meantime? I need to run a backup. >> > > Load the st module.. > That's what worked for me. Dwaine. From rpa4email at rogers.com Wed Sep 29 05:28:53 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 01:28:53 -0400 Subject: Results with fc3t2 In-Reply-To: <1096384987.21799.18.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1096339740.3289.7.camel@steelgoose.com> <1096382678.2662.2.camel@kyrre> <1096384987.21799.18.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096435733.9429.5.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> On Tue, 2004-28-09 at 11:23 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > Evolution has a strange behaviour regarding the timezone configuration. > > > It won't select the nearest city you click, but the nearest city at the > > > time the mouse cursor leaves the selection window. The cities are also > > > very different from those of anaconda's world map. > > Please file a report in Bugzilla about this. Have you been getting any reports on instability of evolution-2.0.0-2 release? About 60 of the time I close evol, it comes up with the crash dialog. Also, is the toolbar ever going to be customizable? This last change to it as pushed the most popular button (next) off the visible screen ... yuck :) (Goes to the down arrow button) While I have you. Why, when using plain text do quotes come in tables? That and copy paste did for me. Also, a did a right click -> Table -> delete table and evol stops responding and has to be forced closed. I repeated this several times. Should that be in FC bugzilla or evolution? Thanks for your time :) Rob. From arjanv at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 06:29:23 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:29:23 +0200 Subject: Custom Kernel? In-Reply-To: <1096389423.4146.8.camel@hostmaster.org> References: <1096389423.4146.8.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: <1096439362.2786.10.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 18:37, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > As far as I remember there was always support for running RedHat/Fedora > with a custom/vanilla/stock kernel. > > Now one of my bug reports has been closed because I am not using a > Fedora kernel and the same question has been raised in another bug > report: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133865 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133789#c4 > > Could someone please clarify? we want to make it possible to have your own kernel running. That doesn't mean we can or are going to make the distro work with just any random kernel config combo (just try compiling out UNIX domain sockets or tcp/ip ... it's not reasonable to expect our distro to work fully with that ;). Bugs on such own kernels that look like they are kernel related should really be reproduced with a fedora kernel first. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From linxt at comcast.net Wed Sep 29 06:45:36 2004 From: linxt at comcast.net (Tom Taylor) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:45:36 -0700 Subject: Problem editing user/group settings In-Reply-To: <20040926175656.GC24689@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <200409260903.40642.linxt@comcast.net> <20040926175656.GC24689@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <200409282345.36358.linxt@comcast.net> On Sunday 26 September 2004 10:56, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 09:03:40AM -0700, Tom Taylor wrote: > > The user database cannot be read. This problem is most likely caused by > > a mismatch in /etc/password and /etc/shadow. > > My question is WHY and how do I CORRECT it? > > pwconv > grpconv > > > I want to do this so I can add groups to my user account so I can add > > devices to my user desktop. > > It shouldn't be necessary to do that. What devices are you trying to > access? Everything should just work as a normal user without editing > groups. Thanks Charles, that did the trick. The device icons KDE was creating didn't have some of the options desired such as mount, unmount and eject. And the default desktop icons showed both user and group as 'root'. -- Tom Taylor registered linux user #263467 "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004 From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Wed Sep 29 07:17:38 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 02:17:38 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 - Font issue Message-ID: <415A6192.8000802@austin.rr.com> Hi all, I'm running the latest development xorg-6.8.1-X. I noticed today that the helvetica font is ugly. How can I override xorg Helvetica with my own substitute? Can I do it with ~/.fonts/fonts.conf ? I googled some old stuff, but nothing new, and no examples of overriding a font, just adding new fonts. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Byte From wtogami at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 07:37:42 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:37:42 -1000 Subject: CPU Spikes while closing gtk2 windows/tabs? Message-ID: <415A6646.7090209@redhat.com> After upgrading to rawhide September 28th, it seems that closing some gtk2 windows or tabs causes a spike of 100% CPU for several seconds before the window/tab disappears. I'm seeing this with firefox windows, or gaim tabs. Anyone know if any recent changes could have caused this? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Wed Sep 29 07:38:50 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:38:50 +0300 Subject: root not allowed to use crontab Message-ID: <1096443530.4145.31.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Hi With fc3t2: [root at marte dl]# crontab -l You (root) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) See crontab(1) for more information #no cron.deny or cron.allow [root at marte dl]# locate cron.al [root at marte dl]# locate cron.de /usr/share/applications/kde/kcron.desktop [root at marte dl]# SELinux was disabled at install time. There are no filled bugs in vixie-cron package. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From xander at harkness.co.uk Wed Sep 29 07:53:07 2004 From: xander at harkness.co.uk (Xander D Harkness) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:53:07 +0100 Subject: root not allowed to use crontab In-Reply-To: <1096443530.4145.31.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096443530.4145.31.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1096444387.3548.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 10:38 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi > > With fc3t2: > [root at marte dl]# crontab -l > You (root) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) > See crontab(1) for more information > #no cron.deny or cron.allow > [root at marte dl]# locate cron.al > [root at marte dl]# locate cron.de > /usr/share/applications/kde/kcron.desktop > [root at marte dl]# > > SELinux was disabled at install time. > > There are no filled bugs in vixie-cron package. I cannot see any thing in the changelog to say that the default behaviour has been changed to disallow root. If you put root in the file /etc/cron.allow, it will allow root to run cron jobs. Kind regards Xander From alor at taipang.com Wed Sep 29 08:04:35 2004 From: alor at taipang.com (Alor) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:04:35 +0600 Subject: Connect by ssh only as root In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200409291404.35752.alor@taipang.com> I can connect to FC ssh server only as root. ssh message: Connection to fctest closed by remote host. Connection to fctest closed. What can I do? Best regards Alor Long From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Wed Sep 29 08:22:01 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:22:01 +0300 Subject: root not allowed to use crontab In-Reply-To: <1096444387.3548.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096443530.4145.31.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1096444387.3548.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096446121.4145.35.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 08:53 +0100, Xander D Harkness wrote: > I cannot see any thing in the changelog to say that the default > behaviour has been changed to disallow root. > > If you put root in the file /etc/cron.allow, it will allow root to run > cron jobs. But why doesn't it work by default, as it used to? I never used cron.allow/deny. man says: If the cron.allow file exists, then you must be listed therein in order to be allowed to use this command. If the cron.allow file does not exist but the cron.deny file does exist, then you must not be listed in the cron.deny file in order to use this command. If neither of these files exists, only the super user will be allowed to use this command. In FC2 and earlier, files didn't exist and anybody was allowed. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Wed Sep 29 08:41:29 2004 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:41:29 +0100 Subject: cron still broken- sort-of In-Reply-To: <1096377732.2736.16.camel@wjmurray> References: <20040928125022.CF1B673E49@hormel.redhat.com> <1096377732.2736.16.camel@wjmurray> Message-ID: <1096447288.2680.3.camel@wjmurray> Hello all, Thanks N.Emile - I put the original crontab back :) But it still seems broken to me. man says: SYNOPSIS crontab [-u user] file crontab [-u user] [-l | -r | -e][-i] The second form works for me, the former does not. Bill From Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com Wed Sep 29 09:12:44 2004 From: Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com (Ow Mun Heng) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:12:44 +0800 Subject: Connect by ssh only as root In-Reply-To: <200409291404.35752.alor@taipang.com> References: <200409291404.35752.alor@taipang.com> Message-ID: <1096449163.8082.80.camel@neuromancer.home.net> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 16:04, Alor wrote: > I can connect to FC ssh server only as root. > ssh message: > Connection to fctest closed by remote host. > Connection to fctest closed. > What can I do? 1. Check if you are allowing users to log in 2. Check /etc/ssh/sshd_config or its variant Try connecting using -vv (very verbose) and look at the logs or the debug printouts Btw, you really should not permit root logins. eg: PermitRootLogins no > Best regards > Alor Long -- Ow Mun Heng Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel 2.6.7-2.jul1-interactive Neuromancer 17:11:04 up 7:55, 6 users, load average: 0.46, 0.32, 0.31 From spam at tachegroup.com Wed Sep 29 09:41:58 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:41:58 -0400 Subject: Where can I get kernel-source pacakge for kernel-2.6.8-1.541? In-Reply-To: <1096342197.3257.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: > # rm -r -f ../BUILD /* I have followed your command, now noting works... j/k :0 From harald at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 09:43:33 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:43:33 +0200 Subject: Box from hell testing for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <415A83C5.1000308@redhat.com> Alan Cox wrote: > It even managed to rename my loopback device eth0 and create devices with > names like dev1536. > devices or network interfaces?? Did _you_ do that, or did that just happen? From harald at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 09:44:02 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:44:02 +0200 Subject: bhcompile In-Reply-To: <200409290811.33884.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200409290811.33884.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <415A83E2.7010709@redhat.com> Russell Coker wrote: > warning: user bhcompile does not exist - using root > warning: group bhcompile does not exist - using root > warning: user bhcompile does not exist - using root > > What are the above messages about? I started seeing them in a "yum update" > run just after upgrading nscd. > Please bugzilla! From alor at taipang.com Wed Sep 29 09:55:54 2004 From: alor at taipang.com (Alor) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:55:54 +0600 Subject: Connect by ssh only as root In-Reply-To: <1096449163.8082.80.camel@neuromancer.home.net> References: <200409291404.35752.alor@taipang.com> <1096449163.8082.80.camel@neuromancer.home.net> Message-ID: <200409291555.54681.alor@taipang.com> > Try connecting using -vv (very verbose) and look at the logs or the > debug printouts alor at minsc:~> ssh -vv 10.7.123.2 OpenSSH_3.4p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090607f 11812: debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config 11812: debug1: Applying options for * 11812: debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted. 11812: debug1: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 11812: debug1: Connecting to 10.7.123.2 [10.7.123.2] port 22. 11812: debug1: Connection established. 11812: debug1: identity file /home/alor/.ssh/identity type -1 11812: debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----BEGIN' 11812: debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----END' 11812: debug1: identity file /home/alor/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 11812: debug1: identity file /home/alor/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 11812: debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 11812: debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 pat OpenSSH* 11812: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 11812: debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.4p1 11812: debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent 11812: debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 11812: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 11812: debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 11812: debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none 11812: debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 11812: debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none 11812: debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent 11812: debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP 11812: debug1: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 135/256 11812: debug1: bits set: 1573/3191 11812: debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent 11812: debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY 11812: debug1: Host '10.7.123.2' is known and matches the RSA host key. 11812: debug1: Found key in /home/alor/.ssh/known_hosts:2 11812: debug1: bits set: 1589/3191 11812: debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct 11812: debug1: kex_derive_keys 11812: debug1: newkeys: mode 1 11812: debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent 11812: debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS 11812: debug1: newkeys: mode 0 11812: debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received 11812: debug1: done: ssh_kex2. 11812: debug1: send SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST 11812: debug1: service_accept: ssh-userauth 11812: debug1: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT 11812: debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive 11812: debug1: next auth method to try is publickey 11812: debug1: try privkey: /home/alor/.ssh/identity 11812: debug1: try pubkey: /home/alor/.ssh/id_rsa 11812: debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply 11812: debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive 11812: debug1: try privkey: /home/alor/.ssh/id_dsa 11812: debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method 11812: debug1: next auth method to try is keyboard-interactive 11812: debug2: userauth_kbdint 11812: debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply 11812: debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive 11812: debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method 11812: debug1: next auth method to try is password alor at 10.7.123.2's password: 11812: debug2: we sent a password packet, wait for reply 11812: debug1: ssh-userauth2 successful: method password 11812: debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] 11812: debug1: send channel open 0 11812: debug1: Entering interactive session. 11812: debug2: callback start 11812: debug1: ssh_session2_setup: id 0 11812: debug1: channel request 0: pty-req 11812: debug1: channel request 0: shell 11812: debug1: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY 11812: debug2: callback done 11812: debug1: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768 11812: debug1: channel_free: channel 0: client-session, nchannels 1 Connection to 10.7.123.2 closed by remote host. Connection to 10.7.123.2 closed. 11812: debug1: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 0, stderr 83 bytes in 0.2 seconds 11812: debug1: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 0.0, stderr 553.0 11812: debug1: Exit status -1 From harald at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 10:19:31 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:19:31 +0200 Subject: udev problems In-Reply-To: <4158C092.1060205@rogers.com> References: <20040927005822.GC22107@realify.com> <1096269399.3371.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040927162059.GB25740@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1096303590.4835.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4158C092.1060205@rogers.com> Message-ID: <415A8C33.3040302@redhat.com> Dwaine Garden wrote: > David Zeuthen wrote: > >> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:20 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> >> >>> David Zeuthen (david at fubar.dk) said: >>> >>>> Suggest that >>>> >>>> KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot%e" >>>> >>>> is better so we can handle multiple devices (the %e modifier for >>>> 'enumerate' is rather new, see the udev man page for details). >>>> >>>> It's not perfect though, because this will also create these symlinks >>>> for non-PDA devices such as USB-to-serial devices. >>>> One thing is the fact that /dev/pilot, or /dev/pilot1 symlink >>>> appear, we >>>> can probably live with this, another one is the console gains >>>> read/write >>>> rights. I'm not sure this is a huge problem though, but there might be >>>> threat scenarios? >>> >>> We could do matching based on vendor/device IDs, surely? >> >> Indeed; you'll end up with a lot of udev rules though. I'm not sure >> where the all the vendor/product ID's would come from though. >> >> David >> > ubs.ids... ??? It's a good start.. > > Dwaine. > What about fixing the apps that want to open /dev/pilot??? From awol at home.nl Wed Sep 29 10:31:15 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:31:15 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <20040929103115.GA2362@home.nl> On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 12:31:12PM -0700, Andrew Farris wrote: > > >If nvidia and composite is working for you. Can you add comments to > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133679 > > Works fine for myself. I updated the bug report with the log file from > > xorg. > Also working for me and I will post. Nvidia and Xcomposite NOT working for me and I will post to bugzilla later. This is on a Dell i8100 with the GeForce 2 GO card and xcompmgr from cvs. First of all the contortions to get nvidia running: revert to the 2.6.8-1.541 kernel, modprobe nvidia, and the complaint from the nvidia-installer about 'rivafb' contained in kernel (???) with possible resulting instability due to 2 drivers being loaded. Under gnome starting xcompmgr shows almost no effects, independent ot the xcompmgr setup used. The only consistent 'effect' is a green border around windows. xcompmgr -n causes a corruption of the the top blue bar on windows (default gnome theme). Whatever the measly effects produced the overal result is constant freezes and great instability. Opening menus from the redhat icon consitently produces freezes necessitating a battery removal to shutdown. Alexander From harald at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 10:27:34 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:27:34 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <20040929103115.GA2362@home.nl> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> <20040929103115.GA2362@home.nl> Message-ID: <415A8E16.4080207@redhat.com> Alexander Volovics wrote: > > Nvidia and Xcomposite NOT working for me and I will post to bugzilla > later. Do not do that! Neither the Xcomposite tool nor the Nvidia driver are from us. > > This is on a Dell i8100 with the GeForce 2 GO card and xcompmgr from cvs. > > First of all the contortions to get nvidia running: > revert to the 2.6.8-1.541 kernel, modprobe nvidia, and the complaint > from the nvidia-installer about 'rivafb' contained in kernel (???) with > possible resulting instability due to 2 drivers being loaded. And? Blame Nvidia. > > Under gnome starting xcompmgr shows almost no effects, independent > ot the xcompmgr setup used. The only consistent 'effect' is a green > border around windows. xcompmgr -n causes a corruption of the the > top blue bar on windows (default gnome theme). > > Whatever the measly effects produced the overal result is constant > freezes and great instability. Opening menus from the redhat icon > consitently produces freezes necessitating a battery removal to > shutdown. > > Alexander > Worksforme... Which driver version of nvidia do you have? From reader at newsguy.com Wed Sep 29 10:43:56 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:43:56 -0500 Subject: mirroring rawhide Message-ID: What can be left out when mirroring rawhide for local single user use. (4 home machines) SRPMS is one of course... what else is not required for yum to work? images ... I guess could go ... What about `debug'. Is that stuff used during any of yums chores? From awol at home.nl Wed Sep 29 10:51:45 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:51:45 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <415A8E16.4080207@redhat.com> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> <20040929103115.GA2362@home.nl> <415A8E16.4080207@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040929105145.GB2362@home.nl> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 12:27:34PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > Alexander Volovics wrote: > >Nvidia and Xcomposite NOT working for me and I will post to bugzilla > Do not do that! Neither the Xcomposite tool nor the Nvidia driver are > from us. I was not going to complain on bugzilla about nvidia bugs, just 'reacting' to Jeff Spaleta's earlier post. > >First of all the contortions to get nvidia running...... > And? Blame Nvidia. I do. I don't even use the nvidia driver. The nv driver is good enough for me but I wanted to try out the Xcomposite extensions in xorg-x11 and they certainly do not work with the nv driver, so I had to install the nvidia driver. > >Under gnome starting xcompmgr shows almost no effects, ... > Worksforme... > Which driver version of nvidia do you have? The latest, from NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run Alexander From russell at coker.com.au Wed Sep 29 10:56:16 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:56:16 +1000 Subject: bhcompile In-Reply-To: <1096409525.17073.46.camel@binkley> References: <200409290811.33884.russell@coker.com.au> <1096409525.17073.46.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <200409292056.16794.russell@coker.com.au> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:12, seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 08:11 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > warning: user bhcompile does not exist - using root > > warning: group bhcompile does not exist - using root > > warning: user bhcompile does not exist - using root > > > > What are the above messages about? I started seeing them in a "yum > > update" run just after upgrading nscd. > > it means the file ownerships in some package did not get in %files so it > assumed the name/group of the user/process who built the packages. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=134059 Thanks, in bugzilla as the above. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Wed Sep 29 11:16:21 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:16:21 +0300 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use Message-ID: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Hi Just had a hard lockup of system during use (desktop), the hdd kept trashing. ctrl+alt+backspace had to effect, nor switching to console. There's nothing about this in /var/log/messages or Xorg.log. What can I do to debug it? Can't reproduce it, but in case it happens again. Have the output of top written to a file every second? At least that would show what process caused it. (Anyway, an user process shouldn't crash the system) Thanks -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed Sep 29 11:19:05 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:19:05 +0200 Subject: root not allowed to use crontab In-Reply-To: <1096446121.4145.35.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096443530.4145.31.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1096444387.3548.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096446121.4145.35.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1096456741.3044.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 10:22, Marius Andreiana a ?crit : > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 08:53 +0100, Xander D Harkness wrote: > > I cannot see any thing in the changelog to say that the default > > behaviour has been changed to disallow root. > > > > If you put root in the file /etc/cron.allow, it will allow root to run > > cron jobs. > But why doesn't it work by default, as it used to? I never used > cron.allow/deny. Things change. btw, there are another places for admin cron : ll -d /etc/cron* drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 sep 17 18:26 /etc/cron.d drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 sep 23 05:26 /etc/cron.daily drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 sep 20 23:58 /etc/cron.hourly drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 sep 20 23:58 /etc/cron.monthly -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 255 sep 20 23:58 /etc/crontab drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 sep 20 23:58 /etc/cron.weekly -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 12:06:13 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:06:13 -0400 Subject: Box from hell testing for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <415A83C5.1000308@redhat.com> References: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <415A83C5.1000308@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040929120613.GA21859@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:43:33AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > >It even managed to rename my loopback device eth0 and create devices with > >names like dev1536. > > devices or network interfaces?? Did _you_ do that, or did that just happen? network interface, and it did it not me. I think this was all part of the fallout when loopback got renamed eth0 because it thought it was a 3com 3c59x that probed with a MAC of 00:00:00:00:00:00 apparently our code is not robust in this case From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Wed Sep 29 12:07:45 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:07:45 -0500 Subject: sensors-detect not working In-Reply-To: <1096306244.3211.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <1096306244.3211.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <1096459665.3182.0.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> I have the same problem on kernel 541 also. Anyone else out there using lm_sensors? On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:30 -0500, Timothy Sandel wrote: > When I try to run sensors-detect I get a message: > > No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them. > > I'm running kernel 2.6.8-1.541smp. If I load the modules I need > manually, sensors will display stats. > > Timothy > > From cmkrnl at speakeasy.net Wed Sep 29 12:08:39 2004 From: cmkrnl at speakeasy.net (Andrew) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:08:39 -0400 Subject: CPU Spikes while closing gtk2 windows/tabs? In-Reply-To: <415A6646.7090209@redhat.com> References: <415A6646.7090209@redhat.com> Message-ID: <415AA5C7.2050303@speakeasy.net> Hi, Could it be the same as this? -- They were seeing crashes, but also when closing windows... http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg01163.html (libbonoboui) Andrew Warren Togami wrote: > After upgrading to rawhide September 28th, it seems that closing some > gtk2 windows or tabs causes a spike of 100% CPU for several seconds > before the window/tab disappears. I'm seeing this with firefox > windows, or gaim tabs. Anyone know if any recent changes could have > caused this? > > Warren Togami > wtogami at redhat.com > From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 29 12:14:56 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3T2 up2date - is not signed with a GPG signature In-Reply-To: <1096428207.3257.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096363240.3257.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104092809122f8ce9f9@mail.gmail.com> <1096405241.3257.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1562.192.168.0.254.1096421740.squirrel@whooper.org> <1096428207.3257.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4714.12.29.16.103.1096460096.squirrel@whooper.org> Matias Feliciano said: > Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 03:35, William Hooper a ??crit : > >> Matias Feliciano said: >> [snip] >> >>> >>> rpm --addsign *.rpm. One time per day (for rawhide). I don't know if >>> rpm can sign in batch mode. >> >> What security will that give you? Any hacked RPM just has to get into >> rawhide for 24 hours or less and it is automatically signed... >> > > If you don't trust Fedora, don't use Fedora. You are side stepping the question. [snip] > Without signature any rpm package that claim to come from Rawhide is > suspect And with yoiur suggestion a signature just means it came from the main server and speaks nothing if it was actually supposed to be there. The manual process that is used with releases is the right one. You know that package is supposed to be there because a human signed it. Rawhide moves to fast for that. Rather than half-assing it and adding a meaningless signature, the choice is made to not sign the packages. If you don't feel comfortable with that, don't use Rawhide. -- William Hooper From kyrre at solution-forge.net Wed Sep 29 12:13:58 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:13:58 +0200 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use In-Reply-To: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1096460037.6853.3.camel@kyrre> Iv'e seen such things when using systems with a... questionable hard drive. In other words my laptop. But then i always find a lot of "DMA reset sucsess" "CRC checksum error" etc right before the whole system comes crashing down. In a very garbeled log file... (ex. it may not say "DMA reset sucsess" but instead "DRMA restet rucess"...) Kyrre ons, 29.09.2004 kl. 13.16 skrev Marius Andreiana: > Hi > > Just had a hard lockup of system during use (desktop), the hdd kept > trashing. ctrl+alt+backspace had to effect, nor switching to console. > There's nothing about this in /var/log/messages or Xorg.log. > > What can I do to debug it? Can't reproduce it, but in case it happens > again. Have the output of top written to a file every second? At least > that would show what process caused it. (Anyway, an user process > shouldn't crash the system) > > Thanks > -- > Marius Andreiana > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > http://www.galuna.ro From kyrre at solution-forge.net Wed Sep 29 12:18:04 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:18:04 +0200 Subject: Mutliple card USB card readers Message-ID: <1096460284.6853.8.camel@kyrre> Anyone knows how to make a flash card reader which supports many cards (i think they are called multiple lun devices, but i ain't into scsi terminology) to work? It has never worked for me (exept the first slot, the CF slot - and i dont use CF, but smartmedia...) i Linux. Anybody who knows how to enable mulitple LUN's? And why this isn't done in fedora by default? Kyrre From tdiehl at rogueind.com Wed Sep 29 12:48:48 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: mirroring rawhide In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > What can be left out when mirroring rawhide for local single user > use. (4 home machines) > > SRPMS is one of course... what else is not required for yum to work? > > images ... I guess could go ... What about `debug'. Is that stuff > used during any of yums chores? No, yum does not use them. They are for debugging the individual rpms so I suspect you do not need them. Tom From bikehead at amberpoint.com Wed Sep 29 12:54:49 2004 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Bikehead) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:54:49 -0700 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <20040929103115.GA2362@home.nl> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> <20040929103115.GA2362@home.nl> Message-ID: <415AB099.7040809@amberpoint.com> I have the same problem with NVIDIA 6111 driver and a GForce4 440 Go on a Dell Latittude 8400. Same symptoms: green border around windows and great instability. It seems to be directly realted to the Compsite extension since the minute I turn this off, the green border disappears and the instability disappears-even with RenderAccel on. I wonder if it a problem with the GForce Go chips? I understand that this isn't a Fedora or Xorg problem. Just wanted to let others know my experience with trying the composite extensions. __o _-\<,_ Brian (_)/ (_) bikehead at amberpoint.com x503 Alexander Volovics wrote: >On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 12:31:12PM -0700, Andrew Farris wrote: > > > >>>>If nvidia and composite is working for you. Can you add comments to >>>>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133679 >>>> >>>> > > > >>>Works fine for myself. I updated the bug report with the log file from >>>xorg. >>> >>> > > > >>Also working for me and I will post. >> >> > >Nvidia and Xcomposite NOT working for me and I will post to bugzilla >later. > >This is on a Dell i8100 with the GeForce 2 GO card and xcompmgr from cvs. > >First of all the contortions to get nvidia running: >revert to the 2.6.8-1.541 kernel, modprobe nvidia, and the complaint >from the nvidia-installer about 'rivafb' contained in kernel (???) with >possible resulting instability due to 2 drivers being loaded. > >Under gnome starting xcompmgr shows almost no effects, independent >ot the xcompmgr setup used. The only consistent 'effect' is a green >border around windows. xcompmgr -n causes a corruption of the the >top blue bar on windows (default gnome theme). > >Whatever the measly effects produced the overal result is constant >freezes and great instability. Opening menus from the redhat icon >consitently produces freezes necessitating a battery removal to >shutdown. > >Alexander > > > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Sep 29 13:13:06 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:13:06 -0400 Subject: mirroring rawhide In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096463586.29934.0.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 08:48, Tom Diehl wrote: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > What can be left out when mirroring rawhide for local single user > > use. (4 home machines) > > > > SRPMS is one of course... what else is not required for yum to work? > > > > images ... I guess could go ... What about `debug'. Is that stuff > > used during any of yums chores? > > No, yum does not use them. They are for debugging the individual rpms > so I suspect you do not need them. It _can_ use them. yum install somepkg-debuginfo should work just fine. -sv From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 13:23:02 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:23:02 -0400 Subject: Mutliple card USB card readers In-Reply-To: <1096460284.6853.8.camel@kyrre> References: <1096460284.6853.8.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: <604aa79104092906235c937b88@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:18:04 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > Anybody who knows how to enable mulitple LUN's? And why this isn't done > in fedora by default? The way it works in the fedora kernel is mult-lun devices are part of a staticly defined whitelist of devices that are known to work with multi-lun. The list is applied as a patch to the kernel. The reason why multi-lun is not turned on by default is that some devices don't like being probed for multi-lun and that can cause a serious problem for those devices. So if you have a multi-lun device that isn't working you need to file a bug against the kernel and give some specific information about the usb device. Specifically i think what the kernel developers need to know about the device is contained in lsusb -v. So open a bug report about the device and in the summary give human readable specifics about the make and model number, and then attach the output of lsusb -v to the bugreport. You might want to review the lsusb -v output first for yourself and make sure you can figure out which device in the output is the one you want the developer's to whitelist and note the idVendor and idProduct lines in the summary of the bugreport. -jef From rodd at redfishbluefish.com.au Wed Sep 22 12:28:35 2004 From: rodd at redfishbluefish.com.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:28:35 +1000 Subject: Worst experience with Up2Date ever. Message-ID: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm having real problems with up2date since upgrading from FC2 to FC3t2. There was the usual flood of new packages after the release of FC3t2 and up2date seemed to be totally incapable of downloading them and installing. Worse, up2date would show that packages needed to be installed, but couldn't find them when asked to update them, or would show nothing needing to be updated when there were over 175 packages needing updating. The icon in the notification area is currently displaying as red and shows that 55 packages need updating, but if I click on the icon and then click Launch up2date (which shows 55 packages needing updates) and then click through, up2date says my system is up to date (it isn't) It's trying to use yum channel fedora-core-rawhide from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ for the updates. Rodd From rodd at redfishbluefish.com.au Mon Sep 27 00:16:43 2004 From: rodd at redfishbluefish.com.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:16:43 +1000 Subject: volume keeps zeroing. Message-ID: <1096244204.3960.6.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> I'm having problems with the volume settings not being save. This means that each time I restart my laptop, I've got to reset the volume settings. Along the same lines, why is it the the volume settings default to zero. I understand that this is because it stops pops and crackles on start- up, but it's also a real usability issue. No new user is going to think that they aren't getting any sound from their computer because the volume settings default to zero. If the pop issue is so important, maybe the answer is to slide the volume up from zero on start-up (or when a new user logs in - presumable a users settings are remembered on log-out?). So, two issues: 1. why isn't the volume settings saving (it did under FC2) 2. why aren't the volumes settings set reasonably as a default. Rodd -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 13:33:33 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:33:33 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <20040929105145.GB2362@home.nl> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> <20040929103115.GA2362@home.nl> <415A8E16.4080207@redhat.com> <20040929105145.GB2362@home.nl> Message-ID: <604aa7910409290633618666cc@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:51:45 +0200, Alexander Volovics wrote: > I was not going to complain on bugzilla about nvidia bugs, just 'reacting' > to Jeff Spaleta's earlier post. I specifically asked poster who do have it working to comment on how to get it working. I certaintly did not ask for someone who doesn't have it working to comment in the report. Let me be clear. Reports about nvidia driver related problems are probably never going to be seriously look at by a red hat developer nor any community developer who doesn't have an nda signed with nvidia. Continuing to comment about problems specific to the nvidia driver in redhat's bugzilla is futile. The reason i specifically asked for someone who does have it working to comment on the bug report is so that the bugreport could be used as a marker to instruct people on how to get it working, becuase inevitably 99% of all nvidia problems that get commented on either in the mailinglist or in bugzilla are user error in configuration. So the idea is to populate that one bugreport with usable configuration instructions for people to follow, and then mark the 7000 other nvidia/xcomposite bugs that will be filed as duplicates of that one bug report. -jef From otaylor at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 13:40:06 2004 From: otaylor at redhat.com (Owen Taylor) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:40:06 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 - Font issue In-Reply-To: <415A6192.8000802@austin.rr.com> References: <415A6192.8000802@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1096465206.2945.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 02:17 -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm running the latest development xorg-6.8.1-X. I noticed today that > the helvetica font is ugly. How can I override xorg Helvetica with my > own substitute? Can I do it with ~/.fonts/fonts.conf ? > > I googled some old stuff, but nothing new, and no examples of overriding > a font, just adding new fonts. Any help appreciated. Insufficient information here to comment. What application are you using, how did you select "helvetica"? Screenshots are also extremely useful for "font is ugly" bugs. Regards, Owen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kyrre at solution-forge.net Wed Sep 29 13:43:23 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:43:23 +0200 Subject: Mutliple card USB card readers In-Reply-To: <604aa79104092906235c937b88@mail.gmail.com> References: <1096460284.6853.8.camel@kyrre> <604aa79104092906235c937b88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096465403.6853.11.camel@kyrre> Okay, ill do. But how can i first test the device, so that we can be sure that it isn't one of those who should be blacklisted? And what sort of negative effects might it have if it is one of the devices who don't like it? Where can i find a "blacklist"? ons, 29.09.2004 kl. 15.23 skrev Jeff Spaleta: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:18:04 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak > wrote: > > Anybody who knows how to enable mulitple LUN's? And why this isn't done > > in fedora by default? > > The way it works in the fedora kernel is mult-lun devices are part of > a staticly defined whitelist of devices that are known to work with > multi-lun. The list is applied as a patch to the kernel. The reason > why multi-lun is not turned on by default is that some devices don't > like being probed for multi-lun and that can cause a serious problem > for those devices. > > So if you have a multi-lun device that isn't working you need to file > a bug against the kernel and give some specific information about the > usb device. Specifically i think what the kernel developers need to > know about the device is contained in lsusb -v. So open a bug report > about the device and in the summary give human readable specifics > about the make and model number, and then attach the output of lsusb > -v to the bugreport. > > You might want to review the lsusb -v output first for yourself and > make sure you can figure out which device in the output is the one you > want the developer's to whitelist and note the idVendor and idProduct > lines in the summary of the bugreport. > > -jef From tdiehl at rogueind.com Wed Sep 29 13:54:04 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: mirroring rawhide In-Reply-To: <1096463586.29934.0.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> References: <1096463586.29934.0.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 08:48, Tom Diehl wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > > > What can be left out when mirroring rawhide for local single user > > > use. (4 home machines) > > > > > > SRPMS is one of course... what else is not required for yum to work? > > > > > > images ... I guess could go ... What about `debug'. Is that stuff > > > used during any of yums chores? > > > > No, yum does not use them. They are for debugging the individual rpms > > so I suspect you do not need them. > > It _can_ use them. > > yum install somepkg-debuginfo should work just fine. Yes, just like any other package. I took Harry's question to mean does yum need them. I guess I should have said it does not _need_ them. Sorry, for the confusion. Tom From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Sep 29 13:55:25 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:55:25 +0100 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use In-Reply-To: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <200409291455.28540.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 September 2004 12:16, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi > > Just had a hard lockup of system during use (desktop), the hdd kept > trashing. ctrl+alt+backspace had to effect, nor switching to console. > There's nothing about this in /var/log/messages or Xorg.log. What's your CPU? Not a Via C3 by any chance? - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBWr7QjKeDCxMJCTIRAuM1AJ97n/Y8soSoTxoiV8Wx62+q/eOpogCglvVi wD0RuuMve5WvKgvyS2k19Pg= =3/7g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Wed Sep 29 13:59:00 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:59:00 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 - Font issue In-Reply-To: <1096465206.2945.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <415A6192.8000802@austin.rr.com> <1096465206.2945.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <415ABFA4.4020005@austin.rr.com> Owen Taylor wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 02:17 -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > >>Hi all, >> >>I'm running the latest development xorg-6.8.1-X. I noticed today that >>the helvetica font is ugly. How can I override xorg Helvetica with my >>own substitute? Can I do it with ~/.fonts/fonts.conf ? >> >>I googled some old stuff, but nothing new, and no examples of overriding >>a font, just adding new fonts. Any help appreciated. > > > Insufficient information here to comment. What application are you > using, how did you select "helvetica"? Screenshots are also extremely > useful for "font is ugly" bugs. > > Regards, > Owen > > Its using the helvetica fonts that come with xorg, i.e., the font.conf in /etc/fonts/font.conf I have installed a different helvetica font and want to make that the default font for helvetica. Thanks, Byte From akabi at speakeasy.net Wed Sep 29 14:00:28 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Worst experience with Up2Date ever. In-Reply-To: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sep 22, 2004 at 22:28, Rodd Clarkson in a soothing rage wrote: >I'm having real problems with up2date since upgrading from FC2 to FC3t2. [...] >It's trying to use yum channel fedora-core-rawhide from >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ >for the updates. When it tries to dl from http://download.fedora.redhat.com stop and start it again after a while so that it chooses a different mirror. Else change your /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources to use different mirrors. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 economist, n: Someone who's good with figures, but doesn't have enough personality to become an accountant. 09:58:01 up 93 days, 3:12, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Wed Sep 29 14:07:07 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:07:07 +0200 Subject: Connect by ssh only as root In-Reply-To: <200409291555.54681.alor@taipang.com> References: <200409291404.35752.alor@taipang.com> <1096449163.8082.80.camel@neuromancer.home.net> <200409291555.54681.alor@taipang.com> Message-ID: <1096466827.22484.165.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Am Mi, den 29.09.2004 schrieb Alor um 11:55: > alor at minsc:~> ssh -vv 10.7.123.2 > OpenSSH_3.4p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090607f > 11812: debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version > OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 > 11812: debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 pat OpenSSH* > 11812: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 > 11812: debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.4p1 How is that a topic for the test list? From OpenSSH version numbers I do not see any Fedora Core test release involved. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp Serendipity 16:05:17 up 8 days, 18:09, load average: 0.52, 0.66, 0.77 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 14:13:02 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:13:02 -0400 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:28:35 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > The icon in the notification area is currently displaying as red and > shows that 55 packages need updating, but if I click on the icon and > then click Launch up2date (which shows 55 packages needing updates) and > then click through, up2date says my system is up to date (it isn't) > > It's trying to use yum channel fedora-core-rawhide from > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > for the updates. I bet you also have an active yum-mirror fedora-core-rawhide line as well. Assuming you do have a yum-mirror line active, what are are most likely seeing is what happens mirrors are out of sync with the master download server. The panel applet( rhn-applet-gui) sees there are updates available from the main server i believe. But when up2date is run, up2date does some sort of selection among the mirrors in the mirrorlist ( http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide ) chooses a mirror to try to download packages from and then attempts to download the packages. So what i think you are seeing is a side-affect of the fact that different mirrors sync with the main download server at different rates and times. If this is a case, this is just one example of how hard it is to do reasonable mirror selection without requiring information to flow from a mirror back to a centralized location about the sync status of each mirror, or by requiring the end-user to make a selection on the client-side to choose mirrors based on past experience. We could have many, long and fruitless discussion (and I have) about how to do mirror-selection better given the current constraints on how the mirrors are setup. So before someone decides to run off on a tagent about how to do it better than up2date does it right now. I'm going to set down the constraints that define the current mirror structure. If you start a discussion that does not live with in the boundaries of these constraints you're fantasizing about an unimplementable utopia that does not match the current political and technical realities which you can't change. And i will publicly point and laugh at you and call you names if you attempt to do so. 1) the mirror networks are NOT peer-to-peer nodes. Anything that requires a mirror to run a specialized daemon is not going to be acceptable. One of http/ftp/rsync are the only services mirrors need to choose to run. 2) No mirror-side scripts to communicate back to a centralized location to report that the mirror has started or is done syncing to the master server. No information is "pushed" from a mirror back to the master mirror or to another centralized location. Any statistics gathering you might think of doing to try to determine if mirrors are in sync with the master mirror needs to be done by a seperate server and not services implemented at each mirror. 3) No scheme can rely on red hat specifically implementing a new centralized service or providing the infrastructure for a new mirror-selection service. If you do come up with a clever way to provide accurate list of the mirrors that are in sync with the master mirror, build it on a community controlled site and get people testing it with up2date. There is no reason up2date's yum-mirror has to take a redhat.com address as an argument. -jef From ese at lim.nl Wed Sep 29 14:26:54 2004 From: ese at lim.nl (E.S. Edgerton) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:26:54 +0200 Subject: jfs filesystem corrupt Message-ID: <200409291427.i8TEQwdg017650@mx1.redhat.com> Hi everyone, Have installed fc2 and recently fc3test2 on a generic box that has 2 HD. The first one used to have warp/os2 and a huge jfs partition which I had hoped fedora could see later on. Anyone having any ideas how fstab and grub.conf should be edited so that a dual boot is possible -- at least until i can still open certain files and transfer all the mp3. Cheers! ========= E.S. Edgerton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any hacked RPM just has to get into > >> rawhide for 24 hours or less and it is automatically signed... > >> > > > > If you don't trust Fedora, don't use Fedora. > > You are side stepping the question. > > [snip] > > Without signature any rpm package that claim to come from Rawhide is > > suspect > > And with yoiur suggestion a signature just means it came from the main > server and speaks nothing if it was actually supposed to be there. > > The manual process that is used with releases is the right one. You know > that package is supposed to be there because a human signed it. Rawhide > moves to fast for that. Rather than half-assing it and adding a > meaningless signature, the choice is made to not sign the packages. If > you don't feel comfortable with that, don't use Rawhide. > you miss the point again. I am not talking about QA. My mails are signed. It not a guarantee that I use a good English :-) This only mean that this bad mail you are currently reading is from me. No more. If I use my favorite mirror to grab Rawhide _from_ Red Hat? and not to get a desktop-background package with full of porn XXXX or to help a kid to install a rootkit on my computer because my mirror have been cracked. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed Sep 29 14:11:10 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:11:10 +0200 Subject: volume keeps zeroing. In-Reply-To: <1096244204.3960.6.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1096244204.3960.6.camel@clownfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1096467066.3044.71.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 27/09/2004 ? 02:16, Rodd Clarkson a ?crit : > I'm having problems with the volume settings not being save. > > This means that each time I restart my laptop, I've got to reset the > volume settings. > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133535 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From cmadams at hiwaay.net Wed Sep 29 14:56:27 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:56:27 -0500 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040929145627.GA641032@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Jeff Spaleta said: > But when up2date is > run, up2date does some sort of selection among the mirrors in the > mirrorlist > ( http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > ) chooses a mirror to try to download packages from and then attempts > to download the packages. How is this mirror list created? Looking at it right now, there are only 6 servers listed (the Red Hat master plus 5 mirrors); aren't there more mirrors than that that carry the rawhide tree? Checking the other up2date-mirrors files, there are a few more mirrors listed but not many. How does up2date (or yum) handle a mirror not having what is being looked for? For example, mirror.hiwaay.net is in the list, but I don't mirror all the rawhide architectures (just i386 and x86_64). Does up2date recognize a 404 and try another mirror? Is this action remembered? One problem with syncing rawhide to mirrors is that the daily build and push of rawhide to the master servers takes a different amount of time (and so finishes at a different time) each day. Some days, my sync finishes before the push is complete, so until my mirror syncs again (once a day), it will be effectively fubared. One thing I've considered doing is to change my mirroring scripts to watch for actual file syncs and loop (with a small delay) until the sync runs without changing any files. That would help, but there's still a period where my mirror of the tree is not in sync. I guess if I synced the header.info and repodata files last and then deleted, I should always have a consistent tree, but scripting that will be somewhat of a PITA. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From awol at home.nl Wed Sep 29 15:05:28 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:05:28 +0200 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <604aa7910409290633618666cc@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> <20040929103115.GA2362@home.nl> <415A8E16.4080207@redhat.com> <20040929105145.GB2362@home.nl> <604aa7910409290633618666cc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040929150528.GA8336@home.nl> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 09:33:33AM -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:51:45 +0200, Alexander Volovics wrote: > > I was not going to complain on bugzilla about nvidia bugs, just 'reacting' > > to Jeff Spaleta's earlier post. > > I specifically asked poster who do have it working to comment on how > to get it working. > I certaintly did not ask for someone who doesn't have it working to > comment in the report. Firstly I suspected something like this, but I wanted to show that even with the 'correct' installs and configuration it could still fail. Actually trying xcomposite now in FC3T2 might fail more often than not because FC3 is in development, we do not have a nvidia driver for FC3 and the 2.6.8/2.6.9 kernels and maybe xcomposite itself is not robust enough. Secondly I had already seen Mike Harris's addition to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133679 and was going to bugzilla it 'upstream'. Though even this might be premature because FC3 is in development and we do not have an adequate nvidia driver. Thirdly it remains rather curious that we get xorg-x11 extensions that can only be seen or used with a 'closed source' driver. Alexander From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Wed Sep 29 15:02:37 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:02:37 +0100 Subject: jfs filesystem corrupt In-Reply-To: <200409291427.i8TEQwdg017650@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200409291427.i8TEQwdg017650@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096470158.3823.21.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 16:26 +0200, E.S. Edgerton wrote: > Hi everyone, > Have installed fc2 and recently fc3test2 on a generic box that has 2 > HD. The first one used to have warp/os2 and a huge jfs partition which > I had hoped fedora could see later on. > Anyone having any ideas how fstab and grub.conf should be edited so > that a dual boot is possible -- at least until i can still open > certain files and transfer all the mp3. > Cheers! I don't have access to the kernel source here at the moment, however you may have to enable JFS in the kernel and recompile. Are you familiar with recompiling the kernel? -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 F: 0870 220 2178 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From whb at ceimaine.org Wed Sep 29 15:26:42 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:26:42 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors Message-ID: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> When on http://psdam.mit.edu/rise/tutorials/management/management.html I now get errors trying to download the XLS file there. "XML PARSING ERROR..." Anyone else getting that? Warning: In general it can be a bad idea to go and follow links and download things just because somebody asked you to. Do you trust me? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. - A computer is a device used to convert data into error messages. From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Wed Sep 29 15:29:35 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:29:35 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update Message-ID: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in line 79 of /sbin/start_udev. Never get graphical login screen. Can blindly login in, open tty2 and reboot. Anyone else having these probs? I am not an expert by any means and appreciate any help anyone can provide? This is a multi-boot machine and am able to look at FC3T2 messages after booting into FC2 and see the following about X crashing (partial listing): Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 169 Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.11.0 20020828 on minor 0: Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/radeon' Sep 29 10:08:11 localhost gdm[4115]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Sep 29 10:08:11 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 29 10:08:11 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 29 10:08:14 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs8' Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa8' Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost gdm[4608]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs8' Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa8' Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost gdm[4732]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost gdm[3846]: deal_with_x_crashes: Running the XKeepsCrashing script Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs8' Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa8' Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' Sep 29 10:08:22 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' Sep 29 10:08:22 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' From smooge at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 15:34:09 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:34:09 -0600 Subject: crond + pam very noisy Message-ID: <80d7e40904092908342d6818f8@mail.gmail.com> My logs are getting filled with: crond[27300]: pam_succeed_if: requirement "uid < 100" was met by user "root" crond[27303]: pam_succeed_if: requirement "uid < 100" was met by user "root" Not sure which job is doing this, but it is getting noisy.. I dont want to think what 2000 machines will do to our central mail and log servers :). Any ideas how I can track this down to better bugzilla? -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From smooge at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 15:36:17 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:36:17 -0600 Subject: Box from hell testing for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <20040929120613.GA21859@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <415A83C5.1000308@redhat.com> <20040929120613.GA21859@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <80d7e409040929083671b52918@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:06:13 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:43:33AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > > Alan Cox wrote: > > >It even managed to rename my loopback device eth0 and create devices with > > >names like dev1536. > > > > devices or network interfaces?? Did _you_ do that, or did that just happen? > > network interface, and it did it not me. I think this was all part of the > fallout when loopback got renamed eth0 because it thought it was a 3com > 3c59x that probed with a MAC of 00:00:00:00:00:00 > > apparently our code is not robust in this case > Does it broadcast a MAC address of that on the wire.. if so that is evil. From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 15:46:30 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:46:30 -0400 Subject: Results with fc3t2 In-Reply-To: <1096435733.9429.5.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> References: <1096339740.3289.7.camel@steelgoose.com> <1096382678.2662.2.camel@kyrre> <1096384987.21799.18.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1096435733.9429.5.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Message-ID: <1096472790.25556.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 01:28 -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > On Tue, 2004-28-09 at 11:23 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > > > Evolution has a strange behaviour regarding the timezone configuration. > > > > It won't select the nearest city you click, but the nearest city at the > > > > time the mouse cursor leaves the selection window. The cities are also > > > > very different from those of anaconda's world map. > > > > Please file a report in Bugzilla about this. > > Have you been getting any reports on instability of evolution-2.0.0-2 > release? About 60 of the time I close evol, it comes up with the crash > dialog. > I believe this is a bug in the latest version of libbonoboui, and it's in Bugzilla. > Also, is the toolbar ever going to be customizable? This last change to > it as pushed the most popular button (next) off the visible screen ... > yuck :) (Goes to the down arrow button) Please file an enhancement request in Evolution's bugzilla for this. > > While I have you. Why, when using plain text do quotes come in tables? > That and copy paste did for me. I'm not sure I understand you here, I don't see any behaviour that sounds like this. Sounds like you should file this in FC bugzilla. > > Also, a did a right click -> Table -> delete table and evol stops > responding and has to be forced closed. I repeated this several times. > > Should that be in FC bugzilla or evolution? File it in FC bugzilla for now, and I'll have a look at it. > > Thanks for your time :) > > Rob. > > From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Wed Sep 29 15:57:36 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:57:36 -0300 Subject: Worst experience with Up2Date ever. In-Reply-To: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096473456.16176.541.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Qua, 2004-09-22 ?s 09:28, Rodd Clarkson escreveu: > I'm having real problems with up2date since upgrading from FC2 to FC3t2. Since fedora 1, I've never could get up2date to work nicely. It is damn slow, specially if you compare it with synaptic and apt-get. Needless to say it is not nearly as pratical as synaptic. Not to say that synaptic have the options of seeking for new/unknown (like when adding a new repo) packages, something you cannot do with ease with default fedora tools. -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Wed Sep 29 16:02:39 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:02:39 +0200 Subject: crond + pam very noisy In-Reply-To: <80d7e40904092908342d6818f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d7e40904092908342d6818f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096473759.22484.207.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Am Mi, den 29.09.2004 schrieb Stephen J. Smoogen um 17:34: > My logs are getting filled with: > > crond[27300]: pam_succeed_if: requirement "uid < 100" was met by user > "root" > crond[27303]: pam_succeed_if: requirement "uid < 100" was met by user > "root" > > Not sure which job is doing this, but it is getting noisy.. I dont > want to think what 2000 machines will do to our central mail and log > servers :). > > Any ideas how I can track this down to better bugzilla? > Stephen J Smoogen. The log entries are cause by /etc/pam.d/system-auth --> account sufficient /lib/security/$ISA/pam_succeed_if.so uid < 100 Check /var/log/secure on how often this entry occurs. Is it caused by cron hourly? Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp Serendipity 18:00:35 up 8 days, 20:04, load average: 0.26, 0.57, 0.64 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 16:03:05 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:03:05 -0400 Subject: Worst experience with Up2Date ever. In-Reply-To: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040929160305.GA13691@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 10:28:35PM +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > I'm having real problems with up2date since upgrading from FC2 to FC3t2. Don't bother with up2date. Its unfortunate it wasnt dropped for FC2 if not earlier. Use yum. > installing. Worse, up2date would show that packages needed to be > installed, but couldn't find them when asked to update them, or would > show nothing needing to be updated when there were over 175 packages > needing updating. Some of this is out of sync mirrors I suspect. It isn't clear in the case of mirrors the right way to handle this - yum can be given multiple mirrors and will do retries up2date seems to just explode. From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 16:07:17 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:07:17 -0400 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use In-Reply-To: <200409291455.28540.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <200409291455.28540.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040929160717.GB13691@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 02:55:25PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > > Just had a hard lockup of system during use (desktop), the hdd kept > > trashing. ctrl+alt+backspace had to effect, nor switching to console. > > There's nothing about this in /var/log/messages or Xorg.log. > > What's your CPU? Not a Via C3 by any chance? One of my Athlon64 test sets does similar sounding things - it suddenely runs out of memory and dies. From the bits I got beforehand it looks like yum blew up in my case From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 16:13:33 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:13:33 -0400 Subject: Box from hell testing for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <80d7e409040929083671b52918@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <415A83C5.1000308@redhat.com> <20040929120613.GA21859@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <80d7e409040929083671b52918@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040929161333.GE13691@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 09:36:17AM -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > network interface, and it did it not me. I think this was all part of the > > fallout when loopback got renamed eth0 because it thought it was a 3com > > 3c59x that probed with a MAC of 00:00:00:00:00:00 > > > > apparently our code is not robust in this case > > Does it broadcast a MAC address of that on the wire.. if so that is evil. Sniffing it - no From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed Sep 29 15:56:44 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:56:44 +0200 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 17:29, Clyde Kunkel a ?crit : > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in line 79 > of /sbin/start_udev. Don't know if this is related but udev-032-4 seems broken. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg01189.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From jvdias at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 16:37:11 2004 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:37:11 -0400 Subject: root not allowed to use crontab Message-ID: <1096475831.2574.95.camel@jvdsibm.boston.redhat.com> There were some CVS version errors that caused this problem - this is now fixed with vixie-cron-4.1-16 . 1. If neither /etc/cron.{allow,deny} exist, ONLY root may use crontab (and now may do so!) 2. If no /etc/cron.{allow,deny} exist when the package is installed, the %post script will create an empty /etc/cron.deny file, thus allowing all users by default, the way the old cron used to work. From lowen at pari.edu Wed Sep 29 16:46:53 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:46:53 -0400 Subject: Box from hell testing for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409291246.53258.lowen@pari.edu> On Tuesday 28 September 2004 18:06, Alan Cox wrote: > I loaded FC3 test2 onto the box from hell which is my distribution > torture tester. It failed with flying colours Can you refresh our memory about the configuration of this frankenbox? (This way we know what not to get.... :-)) -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From briang at pmccorp.com Wed Sep 29 16:48:32 2004 From: briang at pmccorp.com (Brian Gaynor) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:48:32 -0700 Subject: crond + pam very noisy In-Reply-To: <80d7e40904092908342d6818f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d7e40904092908342d6818f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096476512.2650.5.camel@Canis> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 08:34, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > My logs are getting filled with: > > crond[27300]: pam_succeed_if: requirement "uid < 100" was met by user > "root" > Not sure which job is doing this, but it is getting noisy.. I dont > want to think what 2000 machines will do to our central mail and log > servers :). As I recall this was added to fix a problem when using LDAP authentication. Without it if the LDAP server was unreachable even local logins (i.e. root) were disabled. If you're not using LDAP it is safe to comment out. There was also talk of adding a "quiet" option to this pam module, not sure of the status though. -- Brian Gaynor Precision MicroControl Corp. e-mail: briang at pmccorp.com web: http://www.pmccorp.com phone: 760.930.0101 direct: 760.930.0485 x13 fax: 760.930.0222 From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 16:53:11 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:53:11 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 and XComposite In-Reply-To: <20040929150528.GA8336@home.nl> References: <20040923150714.GA11371@home.nl> <604aa7910409270754345ef130@mail.gmail.com> <4158C060.8080606@rogers.com> <1096399872.30552.6.camel@CirithUngol> <20040929103115.GA2362@home.nl> <415A8E16.4080207@redhat.com> <20040929105145.GB2362@home.nl> <604aa7910409290633618666cc@mail.gmail.com> <20040929150528.GA8336@home.nl> Message-ID: <604aa7910409290953574336f9@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:05:28 +0200, Alexander Volovics wrote: > Thirdly it remains rather curious that we get xorg-x11 extensions > that can only be seen or used with a 'closed source' driver. pretty sure xcomposite is still considered experimental, so its not curious at all really if there has been no effort to optimize how it works in a way that doesn't require hardware acceleration to be useful. But hey if you want to feed your head with conspiracy theories, be my guess. -jef"the geese on the lawn are planning to steal my spleen, but i'm ready for them, they'll never get me"spaleta From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Sep 29 17:05:08 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:05:08 +0100 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use In-Reply-To: <20040929160717.GB13691@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <200409291455.28540.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040929160717.GB13691@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409291805.12106.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 September 2004 17:07, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 02:55:25PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > > > Just had a hard lockup of system during use (desktop), the hdd kept > > > trashing. ctrl+alt+backspace had to effect, nor switching to console. > > > There's nothing about this in /var/log/messages or Xorg.log. > > > > What's your CPU? Not a Via C3 by any chance? > > One of my Athlon64 test sets does similar sounding things - it suddenely > runs out of memory and dies. From the bits I got beforehand it looks like > yum blew up in my case Hi Alan - Recent kernels, and a vanilla 2.6.8.1 from kernel.org compiled with the development tree compiler, both don't last very long on my Via C3 box. It's definitely NOT hardware or heat, since the same board physically untouched runs for months solid on 2.6.7-1.437, right now a 5 day uptime since the last time I tried one of these more recent kernels. Symptoms are frozen solid. 256MB on the thing. I was running slabtop on it last time it died, looking for why a driver was not able to allocate ~40K of dmabale memory, here is what was left unscrolled. Active / Total Caches (% used) ? ? : 70 / 107 (65.4%) ?Active / Total Size (% used) ? ? ? : 11706.26K / 15409.12K (76.0%) ?Minimum / Average / Maximum Object : 0.01K / 0.23K / 128.00K ? OBJS ACTIVE ?USE OBJ SIZE ?SLABS OBJ/SLAB CACHE SIZE NAME ?20100 ?16429 ?81% ? ?0.05K ? ?268 ? ? ? 75 ? ? ?1072K buffer_head ?10258 ? 5189 ?50% ? ?0.16K ? ?446 ? ? ? 23 ? ? ?1784K dentry_cache ? 6265 ? 3866 ?61% ? ?0.68K ? 1253 ? ? ? ?5 ? ? ?5012K ext3_inode_cache ? 4089 ? 3857 ?94% ? ?0.08K ? ? 87 ? ? ? 47 ? ? ? 348K vm_area_struct ? 3808 ? 2985 ?78% ? ?0.03K ? ? 32 ? ? ?119 ? ? ? 128K size-32 ? 3612 ? 2361 ?65% ? ?0.27K ? ?258 ? ? ? 14 ? ? ?1032K radix_tree_node ? 1680 ? 1630 ?97% ? ?0.19K ? ? 84 ? ? ? 20 ? ? ? 336K filp ? 1611 ? 1577 ?97% ? ?0.43K ? ?179 ? ? ? ?9 ? ? ? 716K inode_cache ? 1309 ? 1166 ?89% ? ?0.03K ? ? 11 ? ? ?119 ? ? ? ?44K anon_vma ? 1159 ? 1158 ?99% ? ?0.06K ? ? 19 ? ? ? 61 ? ? ? ?76K size-64 ? 1147 ? 1072 ?93% ? ?0.12K ? ? 37 ? ? ? 31 ? ? ? 148K size-128 ? ?720 ? ?540 ?75% ? ?0.25K ? ? 48 ? ? ? 15 ? ? ? 192K ip_dst_cache ? ?678 ? ?332 ?48% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?3 ? ? ?226 ? ? ? ?12K biovec-1 ? ?600 ? ?594 ?99% ? ?0.44K ? ? 75 ? ? ? ?8 ? ? ? 300K proc_inode_cache ? ?532 ? ?503 ?94% ? ?0.50K ? ? 76 ? ? ? ?7 ? ? ? 304K sock_inode_cache ? ?492 ? ?372 ?75% ? ?0.09K ? ? 12 ? ? ? 41 ? ? ? ?48K bio ? ?480 ? ?201 ?41% ? ?0.50K ? ? 60 ? ? ? ?8 ? ? ? 240K size-512 ? ?452 ? ?115 ?25% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?2 ? ? ?226 ? ? ? ? 8K tcp_bind_bucket ? ?440 ? ?180 ?40% ? ?0.19K ? ? 22 ? ? ? 20 ? ? ? ?88K skbuff_head_cache ? ?387 ? ?326 ?84% ? ?0.41K ? ? 43 ? ? ? ?9 ? ? ? 172K ip_conntrack ? ?360 ? ?169 ?46% ? ?0.25K ? ? 24 ? ? ? 15 ? ? ? ?96K size-256 ? ?324 ? ?183 ?56% ? ?0.05K ? ? ?4 ? ? ? 81 ? ? ? ?16K journal_head ? ?305 ? ?258 ?84% ? ?0.06K ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 61 ? ? ? ?20K biovec-4 ? ?294 ? ?279 ?94% ? ?1.22K ? ? 98 ? ? ? ?3 ? ? ? 392K tcp_sock ? ?290 ? ? ?2 ? 0% ? ?0.01K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?290 ? ? ? ? 4K revoke_table ? ?280 ? ?280 100% ? ?0.19K ? ? 14 ? ? ? 20 ? ? ? ?56K biovec-16 ? ?260 ? ?258 ?99% ? ?0.75K ? ? 52 ? ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 208K biovec-64 ? ?260 ? ?256 ?98% ? ?1.50K ? ? 52 ? ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 416K biovec-128 ? ?256 ? ?256 100% ? ?3.00K ? ?128 ? ? ? ?2 ? ? ?1024K biovec-(256) ? ?252 ? ?247 ?98% ? ?0.54K ? ? 36 ? ? ? ?7 ? ? ? 144K shmem_inode_cache ? ?238 ? ? 62 ?26% ? ?0.03K ? ? ?2 ? ? ?119 ? ? ? ? 8K fs_cache ? ?226 ? ? ?1 ? 0% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?226 ? ? ? ? 4K fasync_cache ? ?226 ? ? 10 ? 4% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?226 ? ? ? ? 4K ip_fib_hash ? ?225 ? ?151 ?67% ? ?1.44K ? ? 45 ? ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 360K task_struct ? ?217 ? ?205 ?94% ? ?0.56K ? ? 31 ? ? ? ?7 ? ? ? 124K unix_sock ? ?192 ? ?192 100% ? ?4.00K ? ?192 ? ? ? ?1 ? ? ? 768K size-4096 ? ?192 ? ?108 ?56% ? ?0.04K ? ? ?2 ? ? ? 96 ? ? ? ? 8K crq_pool ? ?186 ? ?143 ?76% ? ?0.12K ? ? ?6 ? ? ? 31 ? ? ? ?24K signal_cache ? ?185 ? ? 88 ?47% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?185 ? ? ? ? 4K blkdev_ioc ? ?185 ? ? 60 ?32% ? ?0.02K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?185 ? ? ? ? 4K dnotify_cache ? ?168 ? ?157 ?93% ? ?1.00K ? ? 42 ? ? ? ?4 ? ? ? 168K size-1024 ? ?156 ? ?148 ?94% ? ?2.00K ? ? 78 ? ? ? ?2 ? ? ? 312K size-2048 ? ?150 ? ? 90 ?60% ? ?0.16K ? ? ?6 ? ? ? 25 ? ? ? ?24K blkdev_requests ? ?135 ? ? 16 ?11% ? ?0.03K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?135 ? ? ? ? 4K journal_handle ? ?125 ? ?125 100% ? ?0.16K ? ? ?5 ? ? ? 25 ? ? ? ?20K kmem_cache ? ?119 ? ?119 100% ? ?0.03K ? ? ?1 ? ? ?119 ? ? ? ? 4K cfq_pool ? ? 90 ? ? 63 ?70% ? ?0.44K ? ? 10 ? ? ? ?9 ? ? ? ?40K files_cache ? ? 90 ? ? 63 ?70% ? ?0.81K ? ? 10 ? ? ? ?9 ? ? ? ?80K mm_struct ? ? 87 ? ? 63 ?72% ? ?0.13K ? ? ?3 ? ? ? 29 ? ? ? ?12K idr_layer_cache ? ? 81 ? ? 73 ?90% ? ?1.28K ? ? 27 ? ? ? ?3 ? ? ? 108K sighand_cache ? ? 63 ? ? 63 100% ? ?4.00K ? ? 63 ? ? ? ?1 ? ? ? 252K pgd - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBWutIjKeDCxMJCTIRAhFsAJ9yrcSlDEcLWixBRVxIxvGTramzNgCgkFhl QnFdyNduSZ4rPjh7vn5ialc= =sal9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Alor at taipang.com Wed Sep 29 17:13:20 2004 From: Alor at taipang.com (Alor) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:13:20 +0600 Subject: Connect by ssh only as root In-Reply-To: <1096466827.22484.165.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> References: <200409291404.35752.alor@taipang.com> <1096449163.8082.80.camel@neuromancer.home.net> <200409291555.54681.alor@taipang.com> <1096466827.22484.165.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <1096478000.3578.8.camel@logi.taipang.com> > How is that a topic for the test list? From OpenSSH version numbers I do > not see any Fedora Core test release involved. I`m testing FC3 test2 but client machine on FC1. It had been OK as I uncommented next lines in /etc/sshd_config : HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key Thanks. Best Regards, Alor. From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 17:22:16 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:22:16 -0400 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: <20040929145627.GA641032@hiwaay.net> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> <20040929145627.GA641032@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910409291022661c7069@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:56:27 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > How is this mirror list created? I honestly don't know how the default mirror lists are created. I suspect the developer just created them by hand using some personal experience associate with which mirrors were reliable. > How does up2date (or yum) handle a mirror not having what is being > looked for? I think they both handle lack of a tree somewhat gracefully and failover. I think neither handle a tree being out of sync with the master very well. So if a mirror doesn't have a specific tree i think they failover to the next mirror in the list. What "next" means i think is different between yum and up2date. yum im pretty sure marches down the list. up2date might "pick" another mirror from the list somehow, > For example, mirror.hiwaay.net is in the list, but I don't > mirror all the rawhide architectures (just i386 and x86_64). Does > up2date recognize a 404 and try another mirror? Is this action > remembered? I don't think there is any cleverness about remembering if mirrors have gone sour and removing them locally from the client. You have to be careful with this sort of logic. A specific mirror could fail for a temporary reason, so trying to be clever and remember that it failed could prevent you from ever using that mirror again just because it had a short period downtime event once. > One problem with syncing rawhide to mirrors is that the daily build and > push of rawhide to the master servers takes a different amount of time > (and so finishes at a different time) each day. Some days, my sync > finishes before the push is complete, so until my mirror syncs again > (once a day), it will be effectively fubared. Okay this sort of problem could maybe be preventable with small changes on the master server, if there was a way to implement a start/stop file on the master servers that mirrors could check to see if a rawhide push was still in process and delay starting a sync attempt until the rawhide push on the master server was done. But even if the small technical change on the master server was made, all the mirrors would have to write/use scripts to take advantage of the change and there is no way you can enforce mirror admins to do that across the board. Its the politics of individual mirror admins. So while you might use this to make your mirror more reliable... i don't think you can count on all admins to do it. > One thing I've considered > doing is to change my mirroring scripts to watch for actual file syncs > and loop (with a small delay) until the sync runs without changing any > files. That would help, but there's still a period where my mirror of > the tree is not in sync. I guess if I synced the header.info and > repodata files last and then deleted, I should always have a consistent > tree, but scripting that will be somewhat of a PITA. The heart of the problem... anything that is going to make mirrors significantly more reliable is going to end up being a solution that puts a heavy burden on the mirror admins. PITA scripts or extra services that communicate back or whatever. The maximum reliability in terms of how out of sync an invidiual mirror can get basically comes down to how much care and feeding individual mirror maintainers are willing to do. So even if you get scripts in place on your mirror that work to keep your mirror synced with the master mirror, its not clear to me that you can get equal effort from the other mirrors who are volunteering their bandwidth to host the packages. And if we can't get all the mirrors to be reliable, then the only other way to do it, is to have some scheme that dynamically checks for out of synced mirrors and ranks the reliability of mirrors so that over time, clients who are connecting to mirrors get a preferred set and never set a set that is known to be out of sync. But, i have not seen a scheme that doesn't require an admin to run extra services or scripts, that is garunteed to catch a mirror being out of sync and prevent a client computer from contacting a mirror that is out of sync. -jef From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Wed Sep 29 17:24:40 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:24:40 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:56, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 17:29, Clyde Kunkel a ?crit : > > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in line 79 > > of /sbin/start_udev. > > Don't know if this is related but udev-032-4 seems broken. > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg01189.html > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Yeah...saw this...too late...now trying to recover. Hope someone can tell me how. From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Wed Sep 29 17:25:29 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:25:29 -0500 Subject: FC3T2: Having to downgrade Xorg 6.8.1 to 6.7.0 Message-ID: <415AF009.90308@austin.rr.com> Hi all, Xorg 6.8.x is not stable on my Radeon Mobility 9000. I get hangs, display corruption, screen and font artifacts, to the point where the system is not useable. Its random too. I went for three days, then I had to reboot, bam, problems all day. I've bugzilla'ed at Red Hat and Xorg. I'm not using the transparency feature either. Summary: Driver Symptom ------ ------------------------------------------------------ Radeon Screen and font artifacts, display corruption, hangs. fgrlx Driver=3.12 Works fine until a 3D app is launched or gnome-font-properties is run, bam, XServer reset. No problems with either driver with 6.7.0. Byte From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 17:27:34 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:27:34 -0400 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use In-Reply-To: <200409291805.12106.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <200409291455.28540.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040929160717.GB13691@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200409291805.12106.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040929172734.GA19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 06:05:08PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > development tree compiler, both don't last very long on my Via C3 box. It's > definitely NOT hardware or heat, since the same board physically untouched > runs for months solid on 2.6.7-1.437, right now a 5 day uptime since the last > time I tried one of these more recent kernels. Symptoms are frozen solid. Are you runing the cpu frequency control stuff ? 18:25:16 up 56 days, 9:41, 7 users, load average: 0.85, 0.61, 0.51 processor : 0 vendor_id : CentaurHauls cpu family : 6 model : 7 model name : VIA Samuel 2 stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 533.540 cache size : 64 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu de tsc msr cx8 mtrr pge mmx 3dnow bogomips : 1048.57 2.6.8.1 From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Wed Sep 29 17:27:53 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:27:53 -0500 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors In-Reply-To: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> Will Backman wrote: > When on http://psdam.mit.edu/rise/tutorials/management/management.html I > now get errors trying to download the XLS file there. > "XML PARSING ERROR..." > Anyone else getting that? > > Warning: In general it can be a bad idea to go and follow links and > download things just because somebody asked you to. Do you trust me? > I got the same error message yesterday with yum update, and then yum hanged. Byte From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 17:37:00 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:37:00 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors In-Reply-To: <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> References: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040929173700.GB19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 12:27:53PM -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > Will Backman wrote: > > >When on http://psdam.mit.edu/rise/tutorials/management/management.html I > >now get errors trying to download the XLS file there. > >"XML PARSING ERROR..." > >Anyone else getting that? > > > >Warning: In general it can be a bad idea to go and follow links and > >download things just because somebody asked you to. Do you trust me? > > I got the same error message yesterday with yum update, and then yum hanged. I get the same, yum then expands to 2Gb in size and crashed the machine From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Sep 29 17:38:47 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:38:47 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors In-Reply-To: <20040929173700.GB19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> <20040929173700.GB19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096479527.30263.47.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 13:37, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 12:27:53PM -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > > Will Backman wrote: > > > > >When on http://psdam.mit.edu/rise/tutorials/management/management.html I > > >now get errors trying to download the XLS file there. > > >"XML PARSING ERROR..." > > >Anyone else getting that? > > > > > >Warning: In general it can be a bad idea to go and follow links and > > >download things just because somebody asked you to. Do you trust me? > > > > I got the same error message yesterday with yum update, and then yum hanged. > > I get the same, yum then expands to 2Gb in size and crashed the machine This is on test2? What does downloading this file from the web have to do with a yum update? -sv From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Wed Sep 29 17:44:36 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:44:36 +0200 Subject: Connect by ssh only as root In-Reply-To: <1096478000.3578.8.camel@logi.taipang.com> References: <200409291404.35752.alor@taipang.com> <1096449163.8082.80.camel@neuromancer.home.net> <200409291555.54681.alor@taipang.com> <1096466827.22484.165.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <1096478000.3578.8.camel@logi.taipang.com> Message-ID: <1096479876.6914.6.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Am Mi, den 29.09.2004 schrieb Alor um 19:13: > > How is that a topic for the test list? From OpenSSH version numbers I do > > not see any Fedora Core test release involved. > > I`m testing FC3 test2 but client machine on FC1. FC3t2 has openssh-server-3.9p1-3.i386.rpm, not version 3.6.1p2. So its hardly an FC3t2 machine your are connecting. The string from debug mode matches an FC2. Else it should have appeared debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_3.9p1 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.9p1 pat OpenSSH* > It had been OK as I uncommented next lines in /etc/sshd_config : > > HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key You better want to avoid SSH protocol version 1 for security reasons. > HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key I wonder, because those are default settings, active regardless they are commented. See the comment in the sshd_config itself: # The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with # OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where # possible, but leave them commented. Uncommented options change a # default value. > Alor. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp Serendipity 19:37:43 up 52 min, 14 average: 0.68, 0.84, 0.77 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Wed Sep 29 17:47:27 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:47:27 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096480047.3948.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 13:24, Clyde Kunkel wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:56, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 17:29, Clyde Kunkel a ?crit : > > > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in line 79 > > > of /sbin/start_udev. > > > > Don't know if this is related but udev-032-4 seems broken. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg01189.html > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > Yeah...saw this...too late...now trying to recover. Hope someone can > tell me how. bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=134092 From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 17:55:36 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:55:36 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors In-Reply-To: <1096479527.30263.47.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> References: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> <20040929173700.GB19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096479527.30263.47.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20040929175536.GA5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 01:38:47PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > I get the same, yum then expands to 2Gb in size and crashed the machine > This is on test2? > What does downloading this file from the web have to do with a yum > update? This is a yum update doing it. Its yum .xml files Alan From bpm at ec-group.com Wed Sep 29 17:54:56 2004 From: bpm at ec-group.com (Brian Millett) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:54:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:56, Matias Feliciano wrote: >> Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 17:29, Clyde Kunkel a ??crit : >> > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in >> line 79 of /sbin/start_udev. >> >> Don't know if this is related but udev-032-4 seems broken. >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg01189.html >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > Yeah...saw this...too late...now trying to recover. Hope someone can > tell me how. Well, I booted into single user. Vied /sbin/start_udev and added a 'fi' to the code to fix the sintax error (see arrow): mount_udev() { if [ -z "$SELINUX" ]; then if [ -n "$selinuxfs" ] && [ "`cat /proc/self/attr/current`" != "kernel" ]; then if [ -r $selinuxfs/enforce ] ; then SELINUX=`cat $selinuxfs/enforce` else # assume enforcing if you can't read it SELINUX=1 ----> fi fi fi if [ -n "$SELINUX" -a "$SELINUX" = "1" -o "$SELINUX" = "enforcing" ]; then mount -n -o fscontext=system_u:object_r:device_t,mode=0755 \ -t tmpfs none "$udev_root" >/dev/null 2>&1 && return 0 fi mount -n -o mode=0755 -t tmpfs none "$udev_root" return $? } Then I rebooted and other than kudzu wanting to add a new graphic card (which I ignored), it came up ok. -- Brian Millett Enterprise Consulting Group "Shifts in paradigms (314) 205-9030 often cause nose bleeds." bpmATec-groupDOTcom Greg Glenn From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Sep 29 17:57:19 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:57:19 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors In-Reply-To: <20040929175536.GA5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> <20040929173700.GB19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096479527.30263.47.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040929175536.GA5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096480638.30263.51.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 13:55, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 01:38:47PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > I get the same, yum then expands to 2Gb in size and crashed the machine > > This is on test2? > > What does downloading this file from the web have to do with a yum > > update? > > This is a yum update doing it. Its yum .xml files I'd like to see an strace of what is going on. I've done lots of memory sizing based on the import of the metadata and it's never gotten very big. 2GB would be surprising. -sv From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed Sep 29 17:35:30 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:35:30 +0200 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096479330.3044.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 19:24, Clyde Kunkel a ?crit : > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:56, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 17:29, Clyde Kunkel a ?crit : > > > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in line 79 > > > of /sbin/start_udev. > > > > Don't know if this is related but udev-032-4 seems broken. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg01189.html > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > Yeah...saw this...too late...now trying to recover. Hope someone can > tell me how. I don't know if this help. Add "-init 1" to grub (hit 'e'). or Add "init=/bin/bash" mount -o rw / Downgrade : rpm -U --oldpackage udev....rpm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From Alor at taipang.com Wed Sep 29 18:09:18 2004 From: Alor at taipang.com (Alor) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:09:18 +0600 Subject: Connect by ssh only as root In-Reply-To: <1096479876.6914.6.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> References: <200409291404.35752.alor@taipang.com> <1096449163.8082.80.camel@neuromancer.home.net> <200409291555.54681.alor@taipang.com> <1096466827.22484.165.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <1096478000.3578.8.camel@logi.taipang.com> <1096479876.6914.6.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <1096481358.7316.6.camel@logi.taipang.com> Am Mi, den 29.09.2004 um 19:44 +0200, Alexander Dalloz schrieb: > > HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key > > I wonder, because those are default settings, active regardless they are > commented. I'm too. But while this line is commented connect allow only for root if it permitted. Alor. From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 18:13:39 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:13:39 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors In-Reply-To: <1096480638.30263.51.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> References: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> <20040929173700.GB19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096479527.30263.47.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040929175536.GA5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096480638.30263.51.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20040929181339.GC5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 01:57:19PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > I'd like to see an strace of what is going on. I've done lots of memory > sizing based on the import of the metadata and it's never gotten very > big. > > 2GB would be surprising. It seems fine until it decides an XML file is corrupt, prints a complaint and then goes mad. This time my box seems to have got the XML file entirely not had a network error half way. Try feeding yum a corrupt .xml file From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Wed Sep 29 18:41:17 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:41:17 -0400 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] Message-ID: Jeff Spaleta @redhat.com on 09/29/2004 01:22:16 PM commented: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:56:27 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > ... snip ... > > For example, mirror.hiwaay.net is in the list, but I don't > > mirror all the rawhide architectures (just i386 and x86_64). Does > > up2date recognize a 404 and try another mirror? Is this action > > remembered? > > I don't think there is any cleverness about remembering if mirrors > have gone sour and removing them locally from the client. You have to > be careful with this sort of logic. A specific mirror could fail for a > temporary reason, so trying to be clever and remember that it failed > could prevent you from ever using that mirror again just because it > had a short period downtime event once. On the other hand 'muohio' seems to be on the mirror list, and it has never (apparently) worked, and up2date just hangs on it forever (or at least a _very_ long time.) I end up killing up2date, and trying again. The trouble is that up2date has a variety of stages that it goes through, and it apparently re-picks from the list of hosts during each stage. So even though it went to a good site in the beginning to detect that there are new packages, it may choose to go to a bad site to fetch the RPM headers. The list of mirrors should/could at the very least be a package that we can download to get the 'latest set' of behaving mirrors. > > One problem with syncing rawhide to mirrors is that the daily build and > > push of rawhide to the master servers takes a different amount of time > > (and so finishes at a different time) each day. Some days, my sync > > finishes before the push is complete, so until my mirror syncs again > > (once a day), it will be effectively fubared. Also the sync of headers is independent of the sync of packages. Also the notification of packages is independent of syncing of any parts of any mirrors. In the end my rule of thumb is that if I see the update notification icon, and I can't get the files now (because they're not sync'ed yet) I'll try again in a few hours. There is no point in trying them sooner, since syncing mirrors takes a completely variable amount of time. > Okay this sort of problem could maybe be preventable with small > changes on the master server, if there was a way to implement a > start/stop file on the master servers that mirrors could check to see > if a rawhide push was still in process and delay starting a sync > attempt until the rawhide push on the master server was done. But > even if the small technical change on the master server was made, all > the mirrors would have to write/use scripts to take advantage of the > change and there is no way you can enforce mirror admins to do that > across the board. Its the politics of individual mirror admins. So > while you might use this to make your mirror more reliable... i don't > think you can count on all admins to do it. Can the master server check the mirrors to see if (all of) their transfers have been completed, and only then re-add that mirror to the list of candidates? Sure, it would be nicer if the mirror could just 'tell' the master, rather than have the master poll... > > One thing I've considered > > doing is to change my mirroring scripts to watch for actual file syncs > > and loop (with a small delay) until the sync runs without changing any > > files. That would help, but there's still a period where my mirror of > > the tree is not in sync. I guess if I synced the header.info and > > repodata files last and then deleted, I should always have a consistent > > tree, but scripting that will be somewhat of a PITA. That would be the first major boon... if RPMs would be sync'ed before headers at least there shouldn't be a 'premature' change indication without the files being available. > The heart of the problem... anything that is going to make mirrors > significantly more reliable is going to end up being a solution that > puts a heavy burden on the mirror admins. > PITA scripts or extra services that communicate back or whatever. The > maximum reliability in terms of how out of sync an invidiual mirror > can get basically comes down to how much care and feeding individual > mirror maintainers are willing to do. So even if you get scripts in > place on your mirror that work to keep your mirror synced with the > master mirror, its not clear to me that you can get equal effort from > the other mirrors who are volunteering their bandwidth to host the > packages. PITA scripts should be a prerequisite to becomming a mirror, or at the very least to be a mirror that gets put into the mirror list. BTW. It seems to me that the mirror list is dynamically retrieved during each run of up2date (true or false)? If false, then where is my local mirror list stored? (so I can get rid of that damn 'muohio'!) > And if we can't get all the mirrors to be reliable, then the only > other way to do it, is to have some scheme that dynamically checks for > out of synced mirrors and ranks the reliability of mirrors so that > over time, clients who are connecting to mirrors get a preferred set > and never set a set that is known to be out of sync. But, i have not > seen a scheme that doesn't require an admin to run extra services or > scripts, that is garunteed to catch a mirror being out of sync and > prevent a client computer from contacting a mirror that is out of > sync. I think thats too complicated. Something that notifies when the rsync is done is better. For the forseable future I don't think a mirror will be 'constantly' in flux. I'm sure there will be at least a few minutes of the day when it _will_ be in sync. When we get to the point where updates are coming out on all/any packages so quickly that clients are _always_ in the mode of fetching at least _one_ package, _all_ the time, then boy have we either got a problem with buggy software, or _way_ too many packages... or not enough bandwidth. (I guess the later is always true.) :-) From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Sep 29 18:18:04 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:18:04 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors In-Reply-To: <20040929181339.GC5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> <20040929173700.GB19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096479527.30263.47.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040929175536.GA5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096480638.30263.51.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040929181339.GC5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096481884.30263.59.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 14:13, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 01:57:19PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > I'd like to see an strace of what is going on. I've done lots of memory > > sizing based on the import of the metadata and it's never gotten very > > big. > > > > 2GB would be surprising. > > It seems fine until it decides an XML file is corrupt, prints a complaint > and then goes mad. This time my box seems to have got the XML file entirely > not had a network error half way. > > Try feeding yum a corrupt .xml file I have, It is a set of tests I run on the metadata import, just to see how it errors out. In every case I've seen it falls over with a raised exception complaining about a broken file. what happens when you run xmllint on the same file? -sv From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 18:22:31 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:22:31 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors In-Reply-To: <1096481884.30263.59.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> References: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> <20040929173700.GB19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096479527.30263.47.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040929175536.GA5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096480638.30263.51.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040929181339.GC5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096481884.30263.59.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20040929182231.GA22580@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 02:18:04PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > I have, It is a set of tests I run on the metadata import, just to see > how it errors out. In every case I've seen it falls over with a raised > exception complaining about a broken file. > > what happens when you run xmllint on the same file? I don't have the one that blew it up any more. From the error the file appeared to have been truncated From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Wed Sep 29 18:44:48 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:44:48 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> Message-ID: <1096483488.4179.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 13:54, Brian Millett wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:56, Matias Feliciano wrote: > >> Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 17:29, Clyde Kunkel a ??crit : > >> > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in > >> line 79 of /sbin/start_udev. > >> > >> Don't know if this is related but udev-032-4 seems broken. > >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg01189.html > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> -- > >> fedora-test-list mailing list > >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >> To unsubscribe: > >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > Yeah...saw this...too late...now trying to recover. Hope someone can > > tell me how. > > Well, I booted into single user. Vied /sbin/start_udev and added a 'fi' > to the code to fix the sintax error (see arrow): > > mount_udev() { > if [ -z "$SELINUX" ]; then > if [ -n "$selinuxfs" ] && [ "`cat > /proc/self/attr/current`" != "kernel" ]; then > if [ -r $selinuxfs/enforce ] ; then > SELINUX=`cat $selinuxfs/enforce` > else > # assume enforcing if you can't read it > SELINUX=1 > ----> fi > fi > fi > if [ -n "$SELINUX" -a "$SELINUX" = "1" -o "$SELINUX" = "enforcing" > ]; then > mount -n -o fscontext=system_u:object_r:device_t,mode=0755 \ > -t tmpfs none "$udev_root" >/dev/null 2>&1 && > return 0 > fi > mount -n -o mode=0755 -t tmpfs none "$udev_root" > return $? > } > > Then I rebooted and other than kudzu wanting to add a new graphic card > (which I ignored), it came up ok. I made the same change, but still don't get an X system. From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Wed Sep 29 18:46:08 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:46:08 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096479330.3044.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096479330.3044.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096483568.4179.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 13:35, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 19:24, Clyde Kunkel a ?crit : > > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:56, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 17:29, Clyde Kunkel a ?crit : > > > > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in line 79 > > > > of /sbin/start_udev. > > > > > > Don't know if this is related but udev-032-4 seems broken. > > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg01189.html > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > Yeah...saw this...too late...now trying to recover. Hope someone can > > tell me how. > > I don't know if this help. > > > Add "-init 1" to grub (hit 'e'). > > or > > Add "init=/bin/bash" > mount -o rw / > > > Downgrade : > rpm -U --oldpackage udev....rpm > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Thanks...made the changes to udev by hand and that fixed that prob...still no X. From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Sep 29 18:47:35 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:47:35 +0100 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use In-Reply-To: <20040929172734.GA19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <200409291805.12106.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040929172734.GA19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409291947.40924.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 September 2004 18:27, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 06:05:08PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > > development tree compiler, both don't last very long on my Via C3 box. > > It's definitely NOT hardware or heat, since the same board physically > > untouched runs for months solid on 2.6.7-1.437, right now a 5 day uptime > > since the last time I tried one of these more recent kernels. Symptoms > > are frozen solid. > > Are you runing the cpu frequency control stuff ? Don't think so - at least, the modules aren't in on the 2.6.7 kernel that is up now and I don't see it should be any different on 2.6.8. > 18:25:16 up 56 days, 9:41, 7 users, load average: 0.85, 0.61, 0.51 > > processor : 0 > vendor_id : CentaurHauls Same /proc/cpuinfo, but 600MHz/1183 bogomips. > 2.6.8.1 Point taken, the crashes are real though. This EPIA board has probably lost me a couple of weeks of my lifetime all taken with all, just for being slightly different :-/ Maybe it's time to upgrade it to something more mainstream. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFBWwNMjKeDCxMJCTIRAvmaAJY34r0F1dt/2HpkWptShYbo1/2TAKCD4Yhc 59PuphMTg3/vYifVnzNIXQ== =WFNs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 19:04:03 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:04:03 -0400 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use In-Reply-To: <200409291947.40924.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <200409291805.12106.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040929172734.GA19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200409291947.40924.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040929190403.GA19878@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 07:47:35PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > Don't think so - at least, the modules aren't in on the 2.6.7 kernel that is > up now and I don't see it should be any different on 2.6.8. Ok - because that is a problem on some. > > processor : 0 > > vendor_id : CentaurHauls > > Same /proc/cpuinfo, but 600MHz/1183 bogomips. I've got a 600Mhz EPIA-M as well - thats also being rock solid for me > Point taken, the crashes are real though. This EPIA board has probably lost > me a couple of weeks of my lifetime all taken with all, just for being > slightly different :-/ Maybe it's time to upgrade it to something more > mainstream. Checked the hardware to see if its gone flaky ? From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 19:07:44 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:07:44 -0400 Subject: Box from hell testing for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <200409291246.53258.lowen@pari.edu> References: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200409291246.53258.lowen@pari.edu> Message-ID: <20040929190744.GC19878@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 12:46:53PM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > Can you refresh our memory about the configuration of this frankenbox? (This > way we know what not to get.... :-)) 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0282 00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 1282 00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 2282 00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3282 00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 4282 00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 7282 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800 South] 00:09.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 80) 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 bridge 00:0b.0 SCSI storage controller: Artop Electronic Corp AEC6712U SCSI (rev 01) 00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6120/VT6121/VT6122 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 11) 00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80) 00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) 00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [K8T800 South] 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] (rev 01) 03:00.0 Parallel controller: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 Parallel port 03:00.1 Serial controller: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 Serial port 03:00.2 Keyboard controller: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 Keyboard controller 03:00.3 Mouse controller: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 Mouse controller 03:01.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. (formerly CMD Technology Inc) PCI0646 (rev 07) 03:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: Trident Microsystems 4DWave DX (rev 02) 03:05.0 Multimedia video controller: Auravision VxP524 03:08.0 Multimedia video controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 2 (rev 02) 03:09.0 USB Controller: OPTi Inc. 82C861 (rev 10) 04:00.0 PCI bridge: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 bridge 05:00.0 Parallel controller: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 Parallel port 05:00.1 Serial controller: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 Serial port 05:00.2 Keyboard controller: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 Keyboard controller 05:00.3 Mouse controller: MOBILITY Electronics EV1000 Mouse controller 05:04.0 USB Controller: OPTi Inc. 82C861 (rev 10) 05:08.0 USB Controller: OPTi Inc. 82C861 (rev 10) 05:0c.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30) From rquint at vcccd.net Wed Sep 29 19:23:13 2004 From: rquint at vcccd.net (Richard Quint) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:23:13 -0700 Subject: Java and Epiphany Message-ID: <415B0BA1.3000003@vcccd.net> Thanks to everyone who replied to my earlier message. Although the check box for turning on Java in Epiphany was clicked when I first brought up my browser, I got the message that the plugin needed to be installed. However, after unclicking it, closing Epiphany, restarting Epiphany and clicking the box to enable java in the privacy tab of preferences Java then worked. I don'r know enough about how this works but it might be something to do with the installation scripts. BTW, where are the plugins for Epiphany kept? I tried searching for folders, including hidden files and folders, related to Epiphany and/or plugins but couldn't find anything. My problem with symbolic links was my mistake, a finger left the Shift key one character too soon. But the Right click->Make link dialog doesn't work (I'm using Gnome). From mem0tech at cableone.net Wed Sep 29 19:26:39 2004 From: mem0tech at cableone.net (mm) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:26:39 -0500 Subject: Added "fi" to line 78 of /sbin/start_udev Message-ID: <1096485999.2835.1.camel@theotech> I ran "yum update" and was having udev problems at boot time. I added a "fi" to line 78 of /sbin/start_udev and I could boot. -Best Regards... From whb at ceimaine.org Wed Sep 29 19:32:03 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:32:03 -0400 Subject: Added "fi" to line 78 of /sbin/start_udev In-Reply-To: <1096485999.2835.1.camel@theotech> References: <1096485999.2835.1.camel@theotech> Message-ID: <1096486323.10599.4.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 14:26 -0500, mm wrote: > I ran "yum update" and was having udev problems at boot time. > > I added a "fi" to line 78 of /sbin/start_udev and I could boot. > > -Best Regards... Did you bugzilla? From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Wed Sep 29 19:48:21 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:48:21 -0400 Subject: Added "fi" to line 78 of /sbin/start_udev In-Reply-To: <1096486323.10599.4.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1096485999.2835.1.camel@theotech> <1096486323.10599.4.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1096487301.4179.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 15:32, Will Backman wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 14:26 -0500, mm wrote: > > I ran "yum update" and was having udev problems at boot time. > > > > I added a "fi" to line 78 of /sbin/start_udev and I could boot. > > > > -Best Regards... > > Did you bugzilla? > > bugzilla number is 134092 From mark at harddata.com Wed Sep 29 20:03:38 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:03:38 -0600 Subject: fedora kernel can't boot from sata disk In-Reply-To: References: <41537F3C.8090403@portalvu.com> Message-ID: <200409291403.38858.mark@harddata.com> On September 23, 2004 09:16 pm, Lars wrote: > hmm, so booting fedora from an sata only hd system is broken? > No the installer's boot kernel doesn't seem to have support for Nvidia's SATA driver. I would file a bugzilla report if one doesn't exist already. AFAIK via and silicon image support is working and I assume intel support too. -- Mark Lane, CET -- mailto:mark at harddata.com Sales Manager -- Hard Data Ltd -- http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 -- F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our New Dual and 4 Way Blade Servers <-- From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 29 20:25:29 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2364.4.124.70.81.1096489529.squirrel@whooper.org> Fulko.Hew at sita.aero said: > [snip] > The list of mirrors should/could at the very least be a package that > we can download to get the 'latest set' of behaving mirrors. The current system of being a text file on a web server seems to have less maintenance involved. [snip] > BTW. It seems to me that the mirror list is dynamically retrieved during > each run of up2date (true or false)? True, but... > If false, then where is my local > mirror list stored? (so I can get rid of that damn 'muohio'!) Reading /usr/share/doc/up2date-4.3.19/mirrors.txt can be enlightening. You can have a local file if you want. I always assumed that the default config was to get people to quit hammering the main server and that advanced users (the ones that configured mirrors before) would change the settings to their liking. Isn't that the reason there are text files for different geographical regions? If a had a small number of machines I would go with the list of mirrors on each machine. For a larger number of machines I would go with the mirror list stored on a local web server so that it can be easily changed for all (or run your own local mirror). [snip] > For the forseable future I don't think a mirror will be > 'constantly' in flux. [snip] Rawhide not being in constant flux means that development has stopped. Not a good sign. -- William Hooper From notting at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 20:55:52 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:55:52 -0400 Subject: crond + pam very noisy In-Reply-To: <1096476512.2650.5.camel@Canis> References: <80d7e40904092908342d6818f8@mail.gmail.com> <1096476512.2650.5.camel@Canis> Message-ID: <20040929205552.GB7036@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Brian Gaynor (briang at pmccorp.com) said: > As I recall this was added to fix a problem when using LDAP > authentication. Without it if the LDAP server was unreachable even local > logins (i.e. root) were disabled. If you're not using LDAP it is safe to > comment out. There was also talk of adding a "quiet" option to this pam > module, not sure of the status though. The pam module has a 'quiet' option; authconfig does not set it by default (yet). Bill From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 21:01:18 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:01:18 -0400 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa791040929140158cba8c6@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:41:17 -0400, fulko.hew at sita.aero wrote: > The list of mirrors should/could at the very least be a package that > we can download to get the 'latest set' of behaving mirrors. you create a server that holds a 'latest set' of behaving mirrors...and keep that server running for people to use...and im sure people will use it. My point is, its a non-trivial art to create that set of behaving mirrors and keep it updated and if you think you can do it...feel free to host such a list as a community service. > Can the master server check the mirrors to see if (all of) their transfers > have been completed, and only then re-add that mirror to the list of > candidates? Why does the master server have to do this. If you think this will work...you create a seperate server, that tries to detect which mirrors are synced. Read my rules of engagement in this discussion. If you think you can get this to work...set it up on a community site and host a list of 'good' mirrors. Show it works independant of the main site. > Sure, it would be nicer if the mirror could just 'tell' the master, rather > than > have the master poll... Read my rules of engagement for this discussion. Sure it would be nicer...but its not reality...its not going to happen..you arent going to be able to demand this of mirrors and still expect as many mirror admins with high bandwidth to volunteer to be a part of the official mirror list. > PITA scripts should be a prerequisite to becomming a mirror, or at the very > least to be a mirror that gets put into the mirror list. shoulda,woulda,coulda... you clearly didn't read my ground rules for participating in this discussion. And as promised I'm now going to point and laugh at you. HaHa look at the funny person HeHe Would you be satifisied if 80% of all the mirrors on the mirror list decided dealing with the extra burden of using official fedora specific script logic was too much and just decided to no longer be an 'official' mirror but still mirror it for their own internal use in their own networks for their own users. Face facts, you up the maintainership burden to be a fedora official mirror and you will drop the number of mirrors listed in the official list, since it really makes no difference to most mirror admins if they are on the official fedora list or not. > I think thats too complicated. Something that notifies when the rsync is > done is better. Flying cars are better than cars with wheels....so what...you aren't going to mandate that we all start using flying cars. Just like you are not going to mandate to the mirrors that volunteer their bandwidth to run addition services to make it easier for user to know when the sync is done...it just isnt going to happen. There are political and technical realities that must be considered and you aren't considering them. Let me take a quick moment to point and laugh at you again. HaHa...HeHe... -jef"silly taunt goes here"spaleta From romieu at fr.zoreil.com Wed Sep 29 21:06:38 2004 From: romieu at fr.zoreil.com (Francois Romieu) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:06:38 +0200 Subject: Box from hell testing for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040929210638.GA26664@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> Alan Cox : [...] > To be fair its a pretty brutal test box but the results are not so good as I'd > hoped. Upgrading to a 2.6.9rc2 kernel fixes nothing but breaks r8169 and > via-velocity ethernet drivers too r8169 should be fine in further -rc2-bk for the amd64 box. Tejun Heo has posted some patches on netdev which fixes several issues with the via-velocity driver. Single file patch: http://www.fr.zoreil.com/people/francois/misc/2004-09-29-2.6.9-rc2-bk15-via-velocity-test.patch Split patches: http://www.fr.zoreil.com/linux/kernel/2.6.x/2.6.9-rc2-bk15/ -- Ueimor From alan at redhat.com Wed Sep 29 21:22:48 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:22:48 -0400 Subject: Box from hell testing for FC3t2 In-Reply-To: <20040929210638.GA26664@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> References: <20040928220627.GD14777@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040929210638.GA26664@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> Message-ID: <20040929212248.GC15736@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:06:38PM +0200, Francois Romieu wrote: > r8169 should be fine in further -rc2-bk for the amd64 box. > Tejun Heo has posted some patches on netdev which fixes several issues with the > via-velocity driver. I need to look at those. I've got received some patches from J Jiang of VIA for the driver. Alan From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Wed Sep 29 21:27:26 2004 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:27:26 -0600 Subject: yum barfs at me Message-ID: <20040929212726.26690.qmail@lwn.net> What else should an LWN editor do on a Wednesday but try to hose his system? I've not succeeded in doing a "yum update" for some time, due to various "missing dep" errors. I finally circumvented those by brute-force upgrading some of the x11 packages, to the point that yum would actually consent to trying to update my (x86-64) system. Here's what came next, though: Fedora/RPMS/kdebase-devel-3.3.0-5.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Fedora/RPMS/kdebase-devel-3.3.0-5.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Fedora/RPMS/kdebase-devel-3.3.0-5.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 122, in main base.doTransaction() File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 444, in doTransaction problems = self.downloadPkgs(downloadpkgs) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 267, in downloadPkgs mylocal = repo.get(relative=remote, local=local, checkfunc=checkfunc) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/repos.py", line 360, in get checkfunc=checkfunc) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 401, in urlgrab return self._mirror_try(func, url, kw) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 384, in _mirror_try mirrorchoice = self._get_mirror(gr) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 282, in _get_mirror return gr.mirrors[gr._next] IndexError: list index out of range Is this the new yum's response to the "the repository doesn't have the packages the headers say it should have" problem? Along these lines, what are the recommended x86-64 mirrors these days? Thanks, jon From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Sep 29 21:29:16 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:29:16 -0400 Subject: yum barfs at me In-Reply-To: <20040929212726.26690.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20040929212726.26690.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <1096493356.30263.197.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 17:27, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > What else should an LWN editor do on a Wednesday but try to hose his > system? > > I've not succeeded in doing a "yum update" for some time, due to various > "missing dep" errors. I finally circumvented those by brute-force > upgrading some of the x11 packages, to the point that yum would actually > consent to trying to update my (x86-64) system. Here's what came next, > though: > > Fedora/RPMS/kdebase-devel-3.3.0-5.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > Fedora/RPMS/kdebase-devel-3.3.0-5.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > Fedora/RPMS/kdebase-devel-3.3.0-5.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found This is the mirror failover trying to find the file and not be able to. > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? > main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 122, in main > base.doTransaction() > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 444, in doTransaction > problems = self.downloadPkgs(downloadpkgs) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 267, in downloadPkgs > mylocal = repo.get(relative=remote, local=local, checkfunc=checkfunc) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/repos.py", line 360, in get > checkfunc=checkfunc) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 401, in urlgrab > return self._mirror_try(func, url, kw) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 384, in _mirror_try > mirrorchoice = self._get_mirror(gr) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 282, in _get_mirror > return gr.mirrors[gr._next] > IndexError: list index out of range This looks like a bug - but I'd like to know the version of yum. > Is this the new yum's response to the "the repository doesn't have the > packages the headers say it should have" problem? This look like a 'failover ran out of mirrors and we didn't grab the exception properly. -sv From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Wed Sep 29 21:30:41 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:30:41 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096488963.4404.12.camel@indoffcallacctg> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> <1096483488.4179.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096484273.4404.3.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096487499.4179.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096488963.4404.12.camel@indoffcallacctg> Message-ID: <1096493441.3880.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 16:16, Brian Millett wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 15:51 -0400, Clyde Kunkel wrote: > > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice > > No such file or directory. > > (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device > > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" > > This is the problem. No mouse. Umm. It also looked like other /dev > stuff was missing. Have you upgraded your kernel lately? You might > want to try to remake the initrd. I seem to remember that this was a > problem in the past when people upgraded a udev package with an initrd > that did not use the new udev package. If you have, then just ignore > me. > IE: > mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.549.img 2.6.8-1.549 > > -- > Brian Millett - [ Ombuds Wellington, "The Quality of Mercy"] > "Anything a telepath sees while inside a defendant's mind is > inadmissible > evidence." > > mkinitrd didn't work....something causing probs with /dev/null in the profile scripts and atd is not starting. Don't know if there is a relationship there or not. Still probing...not giving up. Recap: updated nicely working FC3T2 today before I saw the udev hold. Couldn't startx. Fixed udev, still can't startx. Something borked when udev failed???? From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Sep 29 21:33:43 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:33:43 +0100 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use In-Reply-To: <20040929190403.GA19878@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <200409291947.40924.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040929190403.GA19878@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409292233.49448.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 September 2004 20:04, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 07:47:35PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > > Don't think so - at least, the modules aren't in on the 2.6.7 kernel that > > is up now and I don't see it should be any different on 2.6.8. > > Ok - because that is a problem on some. > > > > processor : 0 > > > vendor_id : CentaurHauls > > > > Same /proc/cpuinfo, but 600MHz/1183 bogomips. > > I've got a 600Mhz EPIA-M as well - thats also being rock solid for me > > > Point taken, the crashes are real though. This EPIA board has probably > > lost me a couple of weeks of my lifetime all taken with all, just for > > being slightly different :-/ Maybe it's time to upgrade it to something > > more mainstream. > > Checked the hardware to see if its gone flaky ? It is heavily used here, doubles as a mediaplayer, main email server (>800 a day) and so on. I am very sensitive to its health :-) It had a couple of months uptime before I tried the later kernels, whereupon it would survive < 1 day, sometimes < 1 hr. On returning it to the 2.6.7 kernel it is up 5 days already with no flakiness. So I am quite certain the problems are not coming from physical issues or inherent heat problems. The same problems were present in certain kernels before, a few months ago, I can't remember if this was before -437 or after it. Whichever, -437 is definitely perfectly stable. - -Andy - -- http://www.addintelligence.co.uk -- we design custom hardware and software for your products -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBWyo9jKeDCxMJCTIRAibaAJ90OZXUXWlYFIwu9gmO4PeBmlRTMgCfS+fB qtx3Y24F2Gtercq+8FwFmHk= =rCrQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Wed Sep 29 21:34:14 2004 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:34:14 -0600 Subject: yum barfs at me In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:29:16 EDT." <1096493356.30263.197.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20040929213414.27311.qmail@lwn.net> seth vidal wrote: > This looks like a bug - but I'd like to know the version of yum. Looks like 2.1.3-1. jon From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed Sep 29 21:35:10 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:35:10 -0400 Subject: yum barfs at me In-Reply-To: <20040929213414.27311.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20040929213414.27311.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <1096493709.30263.199.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 17:34, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > > > This looks like a bug - but I'd like to know the version of yum. > > Looks like 2.1.3-1. update to 2.1.4 and see if you get the same problem. The urlgrabber code got an update in there. thanks -sv From smooge at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 21:53:37 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:53:37 -0600 Subject: crond + pam very noisy In-Reply-To: <20040929205552.GB7036@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <80d7e40904092908342d6818f8@mail.gmail.com> <1096476512.2650.5.camel@Canis> <20040929205552.GB7036@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <80d7e40904092914536b419799@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:55:52 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Brian Gaynor (briang at pmccorp.com) said: > > As I recall this was added to fix a problem when using LDAP > > authentication. Without it if the LDAP server was unreachable even local > > logins (i.e. root) were disabled. If you're not using LDAP it is safe to > > comment out. There was also talk of adding a "quiet" option to this pam > > module, not sure of the status though. > > The pam module has a 'quiet' option; authconfig does not set > it by default (yet). > The man page for pam_succeed_if also needs to be updated.. it doesnt mention a quiet option. -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Sep 29 22:21:17 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:21:17 +0100 Subject: Problem with yum updates tonight? Message-ID: <1096496477.32422.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, It could just be down to my boxes, but both at work (Salford Uni) and home, trying to run yum update seems to be running dog slow. Infact, I can't do an update as I get timeout errors. Is there a problem? I'm using 4 servers for getting my updates (inc. the RH one) TTFN Paul -- Homer: Donut? Lisa: No, thanks. Do you have any fruit? Homer: This has purple stuff inside. Purple is a fruit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dustin at esportsea.com Wed Sep 29 22:41:34 2004 From: dustin at esportsea.com (dustin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:41:34 -0500 Subject: yum dependencies problem Message-ID: <1096497694.32217.4.camel@cs68206174-124.jam.rr.com> Greetings, I've been using Fedora Core 2 for a while and decided to try out FC3- test2. I got it installed with no problems and I'm writing this from it. The problem is that I am trying to use up2date to update my system, and I keep getting a dependency error. It is saying that linc is required to install linc-devel. Here is the output from yum: Requiring package is installed: linc-devel - 1.0.3-6.i386 Resolving for installed requiring package: linc-devel - 1.0.3-6.i386 Resolving for requirement: linc= 1.0.3 Mode for pkg providing linc= 1.0.3: None Searching pkgSack for dep: linc Potential match for linc from linc - 1.0.3-6.i386 Matched linc - 1.0.3-6.i386 to require for linc miss = 2 conf = 0 CheckDeps = 0 Finished Dependency Resolution Dependency Process ending Error: missing dep: linc for pkg linc-devel I look at that and notice that linc nor linc-devel are in the repository from the mirror im using. I figure it's no big deal and I just download the linc version it wants and go to install it, only to get a message saying that it is already installed. [root at median ~]# rpm -qa | grep linc linc-devel-1.0.3-6 linc-1.0.3-6 [root at median ~]# yum wants 1.0.3, but I have 1.0.3-6. This normally shouldn't matter, but for some reason yum doesn't like this. Is anyone else experiencing this? Does anyone know how to resolve this issue? Thanks, dustin From oivind.hoel at appelsinjuice.org Wed Sep 29 22:46:54 2004 From: oivind.hoel at appelsinjuice.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D8ivind?= Hoel) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:46:54 +0200 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096493441.3880.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> <1096483488.4179.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096484273.4404.3.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096487499.4179.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096488963.4404.12.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096493441.3880.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096498015.7647.1.camel@appelsinjuice> ons, 29,.09.2004 kl. 17.30 -0400, skrev Clyde Kunkel: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 16:16, Brian Millett wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 15:51 -0400, Clyde Kunkel wrote: > > > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > > > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice > > > No such file or directory. > > > (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device > > > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" > > > > This is the problem. No mouse. Umm. It also looked like other /dev > > stuff was missing. Have you upgraded your kernel lately? You might > > want to try to remake the initrd. I seem to remember that this was a > > problem in the past when people upgraded a udev package with an initrd > > that did not use the new udev package. If you have, then just ignore > > me. > > IE: > > mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.549.img 2.6.8-1.549 > > > > -- > > Brian Millett - [ Ombuds Wellington, "The Quality of Mercy"] > > "Anything a telepath sees while inside a defendant's mind is > > inadmissible > > evidence." > > > > > > mkinitrd didn't work....something causing probs with /dev/null in the > profile scripts and atd is not starting. Don't know if there is a > relationship there or not. > > Still probing...not giving up. > > Recap: updated nicely working FC3T2 today before I saw the udev hold. > Couldn't startx. Fixed udev, still can't startx. Something borked when > udev failed???? > I solved it by downloading and rpm -ivh --force udev-032-2.i386.rpm ;> From smooge at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 23:01:45 2004 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:01:45 -0600 Subject: Problem with yum updates tonight? In-Reply-To: <1096496477.32422.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096496477.32422.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <80d7e40904092916017f1ef3a5@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:21:17 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > It could just be down to my boxes, but both at work (Salford Uni) and > home, trying to run yum update seems to be running dog slow. Infact, I > can't do an update as I get timeout errors. > > Is there a problem? I'm using 4 servers for getting my updates (inc. the > RH one) > I am getting an error that linc or linc-devel is not correctly in the repository. I do not know if that is a reason for this slowdown. Error: missing dep: linc for pkg linc-devel -- Stephen J Smoogen. Professional System Administrator From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Wed Sep 29 23:03:21 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:03:21 -0500 Subject: yum dependencies problem In-Reply-To: <1096497694.32217.4.camel@cs68206174-124.jam.rr.com> References: <1096497694.32217.4.camel@cs68206174-124.jam.rr.com> Message-ID: <1096499001.2309.2.camel@mars> I just erased (rpm -e) on the linc-devel and one other devel pkg that depends on it to get by the error. Not the fix, but at least you can get the other updates. Timothy On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 17:41, dustin wrote: > Greetings, > I've been using Fedora Core 2 for a while and decided to try out FC3- > test2. I got it installed with no problems and I'm writing this from it. > The problem is that I am trying to use up2date to update my system, and > I keep getting a dependency error. It is saying that linc is required to > install linc-devel. Here is the output from yum: > > Requiring package is installed: linc-devel - 1.0.3-6.i386 > Resolving for installed requiring package: linc-devel - 1.0.3-6.i386 > Resolving for requirement: linc= 1.0.3 > Mode for pkg providing linc= 1.0.3: None > Searching pkgSack for dep: linc > Potential match for linc from linc - 1.0.3-6.i386 > Matched linc - 1.0.3-6.i386 to require for linc > miss = 2 > conf = 0 > CheckDeps = 0 > Finished Dependency Resolution > Dependency Process ending > Error: missing dep: linc for pkg linc-devel > > > I look at that and notice that linc nor linc-devel are in the repository > from the mirror im using. I figure it's no big deal and I just download > the linc version it wants and go to install it, only to get a message > saying that it is already installed. > > [root at median ~]# rpm -qa | grep linc > linc-devel-1.0.3-6 > linc-1.0.3-6 > [root at median ~]# > > yum wants 1.0.3, but I have 1.0.3-6. This normally shouldn't matter, but > for some reason yum doesn't like this. Is anyone else experiencing this? > Does anyone know how to resolve this issue? > > Thanks, > dustin > From cmkrnl at speakeasy.net Wed Sep 29 23:06:24 2004 From: cmkrnl at speakeasy.net (Andrew) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:06:24 -0400 Subject: yum dependencies problem In-Reply-To: <1096497694.32217.4.camel@cs68206174-124.jam.rr.com> References: <1096497694.32217.4.camel@cs68206174-124.jam.rr.com> Message-ID: <415B3FF0.5090605@speakeasy.net> Hi, -- Same just rpm -e linc-devel Word of advice in case you didn't hear that you want to exclude udev today - check the devel list for the warning Andrew dustin wrote: >Greetings, > I've been using Fedora Core 2 for a while and decided to try out FC3- >test2. I got it installed with no problems and I'm writing this from it. >The problem is that I am trying to use up2date to update my system, and >I keep getting a dependency error. It is saying that linc is required to >install linc-devel. Here is the output from yum: > >Requiring package is installed: linc-devel - 1.0.3-6.i386 >Resolving for installed requiring package: linc-devel - 1.0.3-6.i386 >Resolving for requirement: linc= 1.0.3 >Mode for pkg providing linc= 1.0.3: None >Searching pkgSack for dep: linc >Potential match for linc from linc - 1.0.3-6.i386 >Matched linc - 1.0.3-6.i386 to require for linc >miss = 2 >conf = 0 >CheckDeps = 0 >Finished Dependency Resolution >Dependency Process ending >Error: missing dep: linc for pkg linc-devel > > >I look at that and notice that linc nor linc-devel are in the repository >from the mirror im using. I figure it's no big deal and I just download >the linc version it wants and go to install it, only to get a message >saying that it is already installed. > >[root at median ~]# rpm -qa | grep linc >linc-devel-1.0.3-6 >linc-1.0.3-6 >[root at median ~]# > >yum wants 1.0.3, but I have 1.0.3-6. This normally shouldn't matter, but >for some reason yum doesn't like this. Is anyone else experiencing this? >Does anyone know how to resolve this issue? > >Thanks, >dustin > > > > From dustin at esportsea.com Wed Sep 29 23:17:25 2004 From: dustin at esportsea.com (dustin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:17:25 -0500 Subject: yum dependencies problem In-Reply-To: <415B3FF0.5090605@speakeasy.net> References: <1096497694.32217.4.camel@cs68206174-124.jam.rr.com> <415B3FF0.5090605@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <1096499846.32532.2.camel@cs68206174-124.jam.rr.com> Thanks, that worked. I had to specify --nodeps for linc-devel and I also had to remove at-spi-devel. That got me past the linc/linc-devel problem. Thanks for the heads up on udev. I excluded udev from the updates and then the next screen has udev listed as one of the required packages (because some other package requires udev.) Any idea which package(s) this may be? dustin On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 19:06 -0400, Andrew wrote: > Hi, > > -- Same just rpm -e linc-devel > > Word of advice in case you didn't hear that you want to exclude udev > today - check the devel list for the warning > > Andrew > > dustin wrote: > > >Greetings, > > I've been using Fedora Core 2 for a while and decided to try out FC3- > >test2. I got it installed with no problems and I'm writing this from it. > >The problem is that I am trying to use up2date to update my system, and > >I keep getting a dependency error. It is saying that linc is required to > >install linc-devel. Here is the output from yum: > > > >Requiring package is installed: linc-devel - 1.0.3-6.i386 > >Resolving for installed requiring package: linc-devel - 1.0.3-6.i386 > >Resolving for requirement: linc= 1.0.3 > >Mode for pkg providing linc= 1.0.3: None > >Searching pkgSack for dep: linc > >Potential match for linc from linc - 1.0.3-6.i386 > >Matched linc - 1.0.3-6.i386 to require for linc > >miss = 2 > >conf = 0 > >CheckDeps = 0 > >Finished Dependency Resolution > >Dependency Process ending > >Error: missing dep: linc for pkg linc-devel > > > > > >I look at that and notice that linc nor linc-devel are in the repository > >from the mirror im using. I figure it's no big deal and I just download > >the linc version it wants and go to install it, only to get a message > >saying that it is already installed. > > > >[root at median ~]# rpm -qa | grep linc > >linc-devel-1.0.3-6 > >linc-1.0.3-6 > >[root at median ~]# > > > >yum wants 1.0.3, but I have 1.0.3-6. This normally shouldn't matter, but > >for some reason yum doesn't like this. Is anyone else experiencing this? > >Does anyone know how to resolve this issue? > > > >Thanks, > >dustin > > > > > > > > > From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Wed Sep 29 23:19:37 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:19:37 -0400 Subject: yum dependencies problem In-Reply-To: <415B3FF0.5090605@speakeasy.net> References: <1096497694.32217.4.camel@cs68206174-124.jam.rr.com> <415B3FF0.5090605@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <415B4309.1080603@rogers.com> Andrew wrote: > Hi, > > -- Same just rpm -e linc-devel > > Word of advice in case you didn't hear that you want to exclude udev > today - check the devel list for the warning > > Andrew > Thanks.... Dwaine. From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Wed Sep 29 23:39:19 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:39:19 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096498015.7647.1.camel@appelsinjuice> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> <1096483488.4179.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096484273.4404.3.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096487499.4179.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096488963.4404.12.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096493441.3880.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096498015.7647.1.camel@appelsinjuice> Message-ID: <1096501159.3880.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 18:46, ?ivind Hoel wrote: > ons, 29,.09.2004 kl. 17.30 -0400, skrev Clyde Kunkel: > > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 16:16, Brian Millett wrote: > > > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 15:51 -0400, Clyde Kunkel wrote: > > > > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > > > > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice > > > > No such file or directory. > > > > (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device > > > > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" > > > > > > This is the problem. No mouse. Umm. It also looked like other /dev > > > stuff was missing. Have you upgraded your kernel lately? You might > > > want to try to remake the initrd. I seem to remember that this was a > > > problem in the past when people upgraded a udev package with an initrd > > > that did not use the new udev package. If you have, then just ignore > > > me. > > > IE: > > > mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.6.8-1.549.img 2.6.8-1.549 > > > > > > -- > > > Brian Millett - [ Ombuds Wellington, "The Quality of Mercy"] > > > "Anything a telepath sees while inside a defendant's mind is > > > inadmissible > > > evidence." > > > > > > > > > > mkinitrd didn't work....something causing probs with /dev/null in the > > profile scripts and atd is not starting. Don't know if there is a > > relationship there or not. > > > > Still probing...not giving up. > > > > Recap: updated nicely working FC3T2 today before I saw the udev hold. > > Couldn't startx. Fixed udev, still can't startx. Something borked when > > udev failed???? > > > > I solved it by downloading and rpm -ivh --force udev-032-2.i386.rpm ;> Thanks, worth a try. Isn't it the same as manually fixing the if..fi problem? From oivind.hoel at appelsinjuice.org Thu Sep 30 00:18:46 2004 From: oivind.hoel at appelsinjuice.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D8ivind?= Hoel) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:18:46 +0200 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096501159.3880.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> <1096483488.4179.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096484273.4404.3.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096487499.4179.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096488963.4404.12.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096493441.3880.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096498015.7647.1.camel@appelsinjuice> <1096501159.3880.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096503526.7647.2.camel@appelsinjuice> > > I solved it by downloading and rpm -ivh --force udev-032-2.i386.rpm ;> > > Thanks, worth a try. Isn't it the same as manually fixing the if..fi > problem? > The file looked radically different afterwards for what it's worth. From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Thu Sep 30 00:19:50 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:19:50 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096503526.7647.2.camel@appelsinjuice> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> <1096483488.4179.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096484273.4404.3.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096487499.4179.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096488963.4404.12.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096493441.3880.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096498015.7647.1.camel@appelsinjuice> <1096501159.3880.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096503526.7647.2.camel@appelsinjuice> Message-ID: <1096503590.3880.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 20:18, ?ivind Hoel wrote: > > > I solved it by downloading and rpm -ivh --force udev-032-2.i386.rpm ;> > > > > Thanks, worth a try. Isn't it the same as manually fixing the if..fi > > problem? > > > > The file looked radically different afterwards for what it's worth. OK, I'll give it a shot....thanks. From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Thu Sep 30 01:08:34 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:08:34 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096503526.7647.2.camel@appelsinjuice> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> <1096483488.4179.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096484273.4404.3.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096487499.4179.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096488963.4404.12.camel@indoffcallacctg> <1096493441.3880.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096498015.7647.1.camel@appelsinjuice> <1096501159.3880.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096503526.7647.2.camel@appelsinjuice> Message-ID: <1096506514.4975.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 02:18 +0200, ?ivind Hoel wrote: > > > I solved it by downloading and rpm -ivh --force udev-032-2.i386.rpm ;> > > > > Thanks, worth a try. Isn't it the same as manually fixing the if..fi > > problem? > > > > The file looked radically different afterwards for what it's worth. That fixed everything!!! Strange that the patch to 032-4 didn't work and had to downgrade udev to 032-2. Thanks for the help!! From feliciano.matias at free.fr Thu Sep 30 02:37:36 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 04:37:36 +0200 Subject: system-config-soundcard Message-ID: <1096511855.3415.158.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sorry for my English :o) I spend some times with audio setting and system-config-soundcard. My configuration is a little "special". Two sound cards : - 1 ens1371 - 2 via82xx Kudzu see the cards in reverse order : - 1 via82xx - 2 ens1371 via82xx is set to snd-card-0 and ens1371 is set to snd-card-1 by kudzu. But I want ens1371 to be the first card. Mostly because OSS programs don't care about /etc/asound.conf. Kudzu is in its own right but it's annoying me. So I change the order card in /etc/modprobe.conf. This trigger this bug : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133759 Next a launch system-config-soundcard to see what append. s-c-sc don't use the card order in /etc/modprobe.conf or /proc/asound/cards but the order of kudzu. To solve this issue, I patch s-c-sc to reorder the card base on /proc/asound/cards. This give me a display less "sexy" : before : http://feliciano.matias.free.fr/system-config-soundcard/old.png Now : http://feliciano.matias.free.fr/system-config-soundcard/new.png s-c-sc don't load the current configuration from /etc/asound.conf. What you see is not what you have. The mixer is unmuted only if "Play test sound" is clicked and only for the first card (base on kudzu). I my case, it only unmute the second sound card. Perhaps related to this bug : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132575 A detail : Playing WAVE '/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/sound-sample.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo Warning: rate is not accurate (requested = 44100Hz, got = 48000Hz) please, try the plug plugin (-Dplug:hw:1,0) Dependency : sox, alsa-lib : useless kudzu : missing ( #33756 ) I fix these issues and "Ooops", remove all code unneeded by FC3 and do some cleanup. http://feliciano.matias.free.fr/system-config-soundcard/ Be careful ! It's a two days hacking with python and I _never_ use python before ! Since my version is not close to Fedora, I doubt Fedora want to make it upstream. So, what bug should I file ? All ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. 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URL: From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 30 03:09:17 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:09:17 -0400 Subject: FC3T2: Having to downgrade Xorg 6.8.1 to 6.7.0 In-Reply-To: <415AF009.90308@austin.rr.com> References: <415AF009.90308@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <415B78DD.30908@sbcglobal.net> ByteEnable wrote: > Hi all, > > Xorg 6.8.x is not stable on my Radeon Mobility 9000. I get hangs, > display corruption, screen and font artifacts, to the point where the > system is not useable. Its random too. I went for three days, then I > had to reboot, bam, problems all day. I've bugzilla'ed at Red Hat and > Xorg. I'm not using the transparency feature either. > > Summary: > > Driver Symptom > ------ ------------------------------------------------------ > Radeon Screen and font artifacts, display corruption, hangs. > fgrlx Driver=3.12 Works fine until a 3D app is launched or > gnome-font-properties is run, bam, XServer reset. > > No problems with either driver with 6.7.0. > > > Byte > The symptoms seem to be the same regarding the i810 card. You still get X killed when ctl-alt-Fn to a terminal while X has focus. This is at 1024x768 at 24 depth and DRI is enabled. 1400x1050 works good at 24 depth for me, no DRI. I dare not drop to 16 depth yet at higher resolutions that disable dri. No need to drop back on X for this yet for the 815 card, unless you could not work around prior problems with the last release candidate. With another graphics card installed and trying out s-c-display, I could not get the radeon and dual-head to configure. Also, with the two cards installed (internal 815 and Radeon 7200 PCI) I could not get the 815 to go to resolutions above 800x600. Is this a normal side-effect of having multiple video cards installed? Or was the higher resolution cut back for the 815 card? To change resolutions w/ both cards installed, I have to replace xorg.conf w/ previously configuration files for higher resolutions. Jim From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 03:13:12 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:13:12 -0400 Subject: system-config-soundcard In-Reply-To: <1096511855.3415.158.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096511855.3415.158.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa79104092920135fc43b7d@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 04:37:36 +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Sorry for my English :o) > > I spend some times with audio setting and system-config-soundcard. I think you might need to move this discussion about the best way to patch s-c-soundcard to the fedora-config-list mailinglist. As for how to file bug reports. The best thing you can do is to file a seperate bug report for each seperate problem that you have found. For example the unmute issue only unmuting the first card, seems to me seperate than your issue with being able to configure the card order, so at least those 2 issues should be filed in 2 seperate reports. Also if you have enhanced the codebase you will want to create a patch file that contains the differences between the original and yours and attach the patch file to the appropriate bug report. Futher discussion of the value of the patches though and how to best re-work them if re-working is needed is done in the system-config-soundcard. Its good that you have taken the initiative to play around with the codebase and hack on it a little. But the best thing you can do is get on the fedora-config-list and see if you can get some feedback from other developers about your code. -jef From ernesto at ornl.gov Thu Sep 30 03:37:20 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:37:20 -0400 Subject: FC3T2: Having to downgrade Xorg 6.8.1 to 6.7.0 Message-ID: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA817@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> ________________________________ From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Jim Cornette Sent: Wed 9/29/2004 11:09 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC3T2: Having to downgrade Xorg 6.8.1 to 6.7.0 ByteEnable wrote: > Hi all, > > Xorg 6.8.x is not stable on my Radeon Mobility 9000. I get hangs, > display corruption, screen and font artifacts, to the point where the > system is not useable. Its random too. I went for three days, then I > had to reboot, bam, problems all day. I've bugzilla'ed at Red Hat and > Xorg. I'm not using the transparency feature either. How does one downgrade X? My X does not work at all after the update from rawhide today. I am using NVIDIA hardware > > Summary: > > Driver Symptom > ------ ------------------------------------------------------ > Radeon Screen and font artifacts, display corruption, hangs. > fgrlx Driver=3.12 Works fine until a 3D app is launched or > gnome-font-properties is run, bam, XServer reset. > > No problems with either driver with 6.7.0. > > > Byte > The symptoms seem to be the same regarding the i810 card. You still get X killed when ctl-alt-Fn to a terminal while X has focus. This is at 1024x768 at 24 depth and DRI is enabled. 1400x1050 works good at 24 depth for me, no DRI. I dare not drop to 16 depth yet at higher resolutions that disable dri. No need to drop back on X for this yet for the 815 card, unless you could not work around prior problems with the last release candidate. With another graphics card installed and trying out s-c-display, I could not get the radeon and dual-head to configure. Also, with the two cards installed (internal 815 and Radeon 7200 PCI) I could not get the 815 to go to resolutions above 800x600. Is this a normal side-effect of having multiple video cards installed? Or was the higher resolution cut back for the 815 card? To change resolutions w/ both cards installed, I have to replace xorg.conf w/ previously configuration files for higher resolutions. Jim -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Thu Sep 30 04:11:18 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:11:18 -0500 Subject: FC3T2: Having to downgrade Xorg 6.8.1 to 6.7.0 In-Reply-To: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA817@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> References: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA817@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <415B8766.6070500@austin.rr.com> Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > > ________________________________ > > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Jim Cornette > Sent: Wed 9/29/2004 11:09 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: FC3T2: Having to downgrade Xorg 6.8.1 to 6.7.0 > > > > ByteEnable wrote: > >>Hi all, >> >>Xorg 6.8.x is not stable on my Radeon Mobility 9000. I get hangs, >>display corruption, screen and font artifacts, to the point where the >>system is not useable. Its random too. I went for three days, then I >>had to reboot, bam, problems all day. I've bugzilla'ed at Red Hat and >>Xorg. I'm not using the transparency feature either. > > > How does one downgrade X? My X does not work at all after the update from rawhide today. > > I am using NVIDIA hardware > > > > > > > > > >>Summary: >> >>Driver Symptom >>------ ------------------------------------------------------ >>Radeon Screen and font artifacts, display corruption, hangs. >>fgrlx Driver=3.12 Works fine until a 3D app is launched or >> gnome-font-properties is run, bam, XServer reset. >> >>No problems with either driver with 6.7.0. >> >> >>Byte >> > > > The symptoms seem to be the same regarding the i810 card. You still get > X killed when ctl-alt-Fn to a terminal while X has focus. This is at > 1024x768 at 24 depth and DRI is enabled. > > 1400x1050 works good at 24 depth for me, no DRI. I dare not drop to 16 > depth yet at higher resolutions that disable dri. > > No need to drop back on X for this yet for the 815 card, unless you > could not work around prior problems with the last release candidate. > > With another graphics card installed and trying out s-c-display, I could > not get the radeon and dual-head to configure. Also, with the two cards > installed (internal 815 and Radeon 7200 PCI) I could not get the 815 to > go to resolutions above 800x600. Is this a normal side-effect of having > multiple video cards installed? Or was the higher resolution cut back > for the 815 card? > To change resolutions w/ both cards installed, I have to replace > xorg.conf w/ previously configuration files for higher resolutions. > > Jim > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > I recompiled the xorg-x11-6.7.0-5.src.rpm and reinstalled. Byte From ernesto at ornl.gov Thu Sep 30 04:15:08 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:15:08 -0400 Subject: FC3T2: Having to downgrade Xorg 6.8.1 to 6.7.0 Message-ID: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA818@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of ByteEnable Sent: Thu 9/30/2004 12:11 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC3T2: Having to downgrade Xorg 6.8.1 to 6.7.0 Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > > ________________________________ > > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Jim Cornette > Sent: Wed 9/29/2004 11:09 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: FC3T2: Having to downgrade Xorg 6.8.1 to 6.7.0 > > > > ByteEnable wrote: > >>Hi all, >> >>Xorg 6.8.x is not stable on my Radeon Mobility 9000. I get hangs, >>display corruption, screen and font artifacts, to the point where the >>system is not useable. Its random too. I went for three days, then I >>had to reboot, bam, problems all day. I've bugzilla'ed at Red Hat and >>Xorg. I'm not using the transparency feature either. > > > How does one downgrade X? My X does not work at all after the update from rawhide today. > > I am using NVIDIA hardware > > > > > > > > > >>Summary: >> >>Driver Symptom >>------ ------------------------------------------------------ >>Radeon Screen and font artifacts, display corruption, hangs. >>fgrlx Driver=3.12 Works fine until a 3D app is launched or >> gnome-font-properties is run, bam, XServer reset. >> >>No problems with either driver with 6.7.0. >> >> >>Byte >> > > > The symptoms seem to be the same regarding the i810 card. You still get > X killed when ctl-alt-Fn to a terminal while X has focus. This is at > 1024x768 at 24 depth and DRI is enabled. > > 1400x1050 works good at 24 depth for me, no DRI. I dare not drop to 16 > depth yet at higher resolutions that disable dri. > > No need to drop back on X for this yet for the 815 card, unless you > could not work around prior problems with the last release candidate. > > With another graphics card installed and trying out s-c-display, I could > not get the radeon and dual-head to configure. Also, with the two cards > installed (internal 815 and Radeon 7200 PCI) I could not get the 815 to > go to resolutions above 800x600. Is this a normal side-effect of having > multiple video cards installed? Or was the higher resolution cut back > for the 815 card? > To change resolutions w/ both cards installed, I have to replace > xorg.conf w/ previously configuration files for higher resolutions. > > Jim > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > I recompiled the xorg-x11-6.7.0-5.src.rpm and reinstalled =============================================================== After downgrading to udev-032-2, all is well. I am back in business with X and the builtin nvidia support. I am using "xorg-x11-6.8.1-4" I guess udev is really the package that screwed things up today. Byte -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mister.ribbit at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 04:21:55 2004 From: mister.ribbit at gmail.com (Mister Ribbit) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:21:55 -0700 Subject: ALSA drivers - Intel HD Audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nobody with any advice? Anyone else have one of these new Intel motherboards with sound working in FC3T2? I've now compiled the alsa-drivers and tried modprobing the azx driver, which works, and things seem to work (programs don't complain about no sound card and such), except I hear nothing. alsamixer does not show the sound muted, so I don't think that's the problem. system-config-soundcard still says "No soundcards detected." :-( Thanks! Ciao! Ryan On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:09:14 -0700, Mister Ribbit wrote: > I have the new Intel HD Audio on board my Intel D915GEV motherboard, > and I'm trying to get it working. I think I can do it if I compile > the driver that Intel supplies on their web page, but they say that > the driver has been handed off to the ALSA project, and I've found it > in the alsa-driver 1.0.6 package (but not 1.0.5). I was wondering if > FC3 would ship with an updated kernel to have the 1.0.6 driver (or the > new 1.0.6a) so that it would be working straight out of the box in the > future. Or, maybe you are on that set of drivers, and somehow have > lost the azx driver for this hardware. From mike at ascendency.net Thu Sep 30 04:45:49 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:45:49 -0500 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? Message-ID: <200409300447.i8U4llm13531@fat_man.ascendency.net> I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a time...any idea why? I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Sep 30 04:45:43 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:45:43 -0400 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <200409300447.i8U4llm13531@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409300447.i8U4llm13531@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <1096519543.25096.23.camel@binkley> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 23:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a time...any idea > why? > > I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 What do you mean one package at a time? Can you describe the behavior more clearly? -sv From mike at ascendency.net Thu Sep 30 05:00:38 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:00:38 -0500 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <1096519543.25096.23.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <200409300502.i8U52am13604@fat_man.ascendency.net> seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 23:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: >> I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a time...any >> idea why? >> >> I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 > > What do you mean one package at a time? > > Can you describe the behavior more clearly? > > -sv I issue the command: yum update This should update all currently installed packages (download headers, download packages and install). However, it will only download the header for one package and then yum exists. If I run yum update again, it gets the next header and then exits. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Sep 30 05:03:40 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:03:40 -0400 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <200409300502.i8U52am13604@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409300502.i8U52am13604@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <1096520620.25096.28.camel@binkley> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 00:00 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 23:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > >> I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a time...any > >> idea why? > >> > >> I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 > > > > What do you mean one package at a time? > > > > Can you describe the behavior more clearly? > > > > -sv > > I issue the command: yum update > > This should update all currently installed packages (download headers, > download packages and install). However, it will only download the header > for one package and then yum exists. If I run yum update again, it gets the > next header and then exits. Does it exit at the prompt, suddenly or is it a normal exit? The last time I saw this it had to do with memory problems on a system. Could you run memtest on your system and see if there are any problems? Thanks -sv From michal at harddata.com Thu Sep 30 06:19:14 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:19:14 -0600 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <1096519543.25096.23.camel@binkley>; from skvidal@phy.duke.edu on Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:45:43AM -0400 References: <200409300447.i8U4llm13531@fat_man.ascendency.net> <1096519543.25096.23.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <20040930001914.B24390@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:45:43AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 23:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > > I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a time...any idea > > why? > > > > I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 > > What do you mean one package at a time? It seems to me that something went haywire with a dependency resolution and not really in yum but somewhere in rpm libraries. An attempt to use directly 'rpm -Fvh ...' with a bunch of packages from the current updates ends up with: error: Failed dependencies: linc >= 0.1.6 is needed by (installed) pyorbit-2.0.0-3.1 linc = 1.0.3 is needed by (installed) linc-devel-1.0.3-6 while 'rpm -q linc' responds with 'linc-1.0.3-6' and 'rpm -q linc-devel' with 'linc-devel-1.0.3-6'. This appears to trip yum. It seems that the real culprit is ORBit2, though, but why it triggers this problem is far from clear to me. Still, when other packages are updated then ORBit2, and ORBit2-devel, can be updated as well but only then. This is probably a bugzilla material but against what? Michal From pwatkins at decssi.com Thu Sep 30 06:25:48 2004 From: pwatkins at decssi.com (Paul Watkins) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:25:48 -0700 Subject: Kernel Panic - 2.6.8-1.590 In-Reply-To: <200409300502.i8U52am13604@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409300502.i8U52am13604@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <415BA6EC.2070504@decssi.com> I get a kernel panic when booting with the new kernel 2.6.8-1.590 -- happens when trying to load ext3 and switch to new root. In fact the no version of the kernel above 2.6.8-1.541 works for me. Any suggestions? I have the latest downloads from Rawhide. Thanks, Paul From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Sep 30 06:25:41 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:25:41 -0400 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <20040930001914.B24390@mail.harddata.com> References: <200409300447.i8U4llm13531@fat_man.ascendency.net> <1096519543.25096.23.camel@binkley> <20040930001914.B24390@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1096525541.25096.45.camel@binkley> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 00:19 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:45:43AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 23:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > > > I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a time...any idea > > > why? > > > > > > I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 > > > > What do you mean one package at a time? > > It seems to me that something went haywire with a dependency > resolution and not really in yum but somewhere in rpm libraries. > An attempt to use directly 'rpm -Fvh ...' with a bunch of packages > from the current updates ends up with: > > error: Failed dependencies: > linc >= 0.1.6 is needed by (installed) pyorbit-2.0.0-3.1 > linc = 1.0.3 is needed by (installed) linc-devel-1.0.3-6 > > while 'rpm -q linc' responds with 'linc-1.0.3-6' and > 'rpm -q linc-devel' with 'linc-devel-1.0.3-6'. This appears to > trip yum. > > It seems that the real culprit is ORBit2, though, but why it > triggers this problem is far from clear to me. Still, when other > packages are updated then ORBit2, and ORBit2-devel, can be updated > as well but only then. > > This is probably a bugzilla material but against what? 'distribution' is the component to file against - and I think this is an obsolete tag. -sv From mike at ascendency.net Thu Sep 30 06:31:36 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:31:36 -0500 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <1096525516.25096.43.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <200409300633.i8U6XYm14153@fat_man.ascendency.net> seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 01:21 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: >> seth vidal wrote: >>>> My memory is ok...I recently upgraded it and ran memtest overnight. >>>> >>>> It exits...returning me to the normal prompt. No errors or >>>> anything. >>>> >>> >>> Try rebuilding your rpmdb: >>> 1. kill all jobs accessing the rpmdb in any way (rpm, up2date, >>> rpmquery, yum) >>> 2. cd /var/lib/rpm ; rm -f __db* >>> 3. rpm --rebuilddb >>> >>> try the command again. >>> >>> -sv >> >> That didn't work. I should note that this started after I upgrade >> from >> 2.1.3. Is there a way to downgrade? >> > > you can but this still shouldn't be occurring on either version. I've > heard of it happening to others but in ALL the other cases it's been > flaky hardware or a damaged install/rpmdb. > > try running rpm -Va --nofiles --nodeps and see if it reports any > problems. > > -sv Nothing was reported. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From mike at ascendency.net Thu Sep 30 06:32:11 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:32:11 -0500 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <20040930001914.B24390@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <200409300634.i8U6Y8m14157@fat_man.ascendency.net> Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:45:43AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: >> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 23:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: >>> I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a >>> time...any idea why? >>> >>> I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 >> >> What do you mean one package at a time? > > It seems to me that something went haywire with a dependency > resolution and not really in yum but somewhere in rpm libraries. > An attempt to use directly 'rpm -Fvh ...' with a bunch of packages > from the current updates ends up with: > > error: Failed dependencies: > linc >= 0.1.6 is needed by (installed) pyorbit-2.0.0-3.1 > linc = 1.0.3 is needed by (installed) linc-devel-1.0.3-6 > > while 'rpm -q linc' responds with 'linc-1.0.3-6' and > 'rpm -q linc-devel' with 'linc-devel-1.0.3-6'. This appears to trip > yum. > > It seems that the real culprit is ORBit2, though, but why it > triggers this problem is far from clear to me. Still, when other > packages are updated then ORBit2, and ORBit2-devel, can be updated as > well but only then. > > This is probably a bugzilla material but against what? > > Michal So I guess we should wait it out? But how can we upgrade when yum is trashed? ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Sep 30 06:33:18 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:33:18 -0400 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <200409300634.i8U6Y8m14157@fat_man.ascendency.net> References: <200409300634.i8U6Y8m14157@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <1096525998.25096.47.camel@binkley> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 01:32 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:45:43AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > >> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 23:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > >>> I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a > >>> time...any idea why? > >>> > >>> I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 > >> > >> What do you mean one package at a time? > > > > It seems to me that something went haywire with a dependency > > resolution and not really in yum but somewhere in rpm libraries. > > An attempt to use directly 'rpm -Fvh ...' with a bunch of packages > > from the current updates ends up with: > > > > error: Failed dependencies: > > linc >= 0.1.6 is needed by (installed) pyorbit-2.0.0-3.1 > > linc = 1.0.3 is needed by (installed) linc-devel-1.0.3-6 > > > > while 'rpm -q linc' responds with 'linc-1.0.3-6' and > > 'rpm -q linc-devel' with 'linc-devel-1.0.3-6'. This appears to trip > > yum. > > > > It seems that the real culprit is ORBit2, though, but why it > > triggers this problem is far from clear to me. Still, when other > > packages are updated then ORBit2, and ORBit2-devel, can be updated as > > well but only then. > > > > This is probably a bugzilla material but against what? > > > > Michal > > So I guess we should wait it out? But how can we upgrade when yum is > trashed? > try upgrading yum to yum 2.1.4 and see if it makes any difference at all. In this case I doubt it will. Also try rebooting your system to see if there some sort of peculiar lock in the rpmdb causing this pain. -sv From linux00 at kornet.net Thu Sep 30 06:43:40 2004 From: linux00 at kornet.net (sangu) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:43:40 +0900 Subject: Kernel Panic - 2.6.8-1.590 In-Reply-To: <1096525554941912977.0.ppp12@ppp12> References: <200409300502.i8U52am13604@fat_man.ascendency.net> <1096525554941912977.0.ppp12@ppp12> Message-ID: <1096526620.3662.6.camel@sangu.sangu.net> What version of gawk do you have installed? If gawk version is 3.1.4-1, you must install gawk-3.1.3-9. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131737#c3 2004-09-29 (?), 23:25 -0700, Paul Watkins ???: > I get a kernel panic when booting with the new kernel 2.6.8-1.590 -- > happens when trying to load ext3 and switch to new root. > > In fact the no version of the kernel above 2.6.8-1.541 works for me. > > Any suggestions? I have the latest downloads from Rawhide. > > Thanks, > > Paul > > From mike at ascendency.net Thu Sep 30 06:40:26 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:40:26 -0500 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <1096525998.25096.47.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <200409300642.i8U6gPm14219@fat_man.ascendency.net> seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 01:32 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: >> Michal Jaegermann wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:45:43AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: >>>> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 23:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: >>>>> I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a >>>>> time...any idea why? >>>>> >>>>> I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 >>>> >>>> What do you mean one package at a time? >>> >>> It seems to me that something went haywire with a dependency >>> resolution and not really in yum but somewhere in rpm libraries. >>> An attempt to use directly 'rpm -Fvh ...' with a bunch of packages >>> from the current updates ends up with: >>> >>> error: Failed dependencies: >>> linc >= 0.1.6 is needed by (installed) pyorbit-2.0.0-3.1 >>> linc = 1.0.3 is needed by (installed) linc-devel-1.0.3-6 >>> >>> while 'rpm -q linc' responds with 'linc-1.0.3-6' and >>> 'rpm -q linc-devel' with 'linc-devel-1.0.3-6'. This appears to >>> trip yum. >>> >>> It seems that the real culprit is ORBit2, though, but why it >>> triggers this problem is far from clear to me. Still, when other >>> packages are updated then ORBit2, and ORBit2-devel, can be updated >>> as well but only then. >>> >>> This is probably a bugzilla material but against what? >>> >>> Michal >> >> So I guess we should wait it out? But how can we upgrade when yum >> is trashed? >> > > try upgrading yum to yum 2.1.4 and see if it makes any difference at > all. In this case I doubt it will. Also try rebooting your system to > see if there some sort of peculiar lock in the rpmdb causing this > pain. Upgrading to 2.1.4 was what caused the problem. I rebooted, but I'm getting the same. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From veillard at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 06:42:23 2004 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:42:23 -0400 Subject: FC3T2 Gecko Errors In-Reply-To: <20040929182231.GA22580@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096471602.3308.35.camel@cei3544.empower.ceimaine.org> <415AF099.1060202@austin.rr.com> <20040929173700.GB19483@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096479527.30263.47.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040929175536.GA5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096480638.30263.51.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040929181339.GC5354@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096481884.30263.59.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20040929182231.GA22580@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040930064223.GT29015@redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 02:22:31PM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 02:18:04PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > I have, It is a set of tests I run on the metadata import, just to see > > how it errors out. In every case I've seen it falls over with a raised > > exception complaining about a broken file. > > > > what happens when you run xmllint on the same file? > > I don't have the one that blew it up any more. From the error the file > appeared to have been truncated The XML file parsing is done with the xmlReader, it should operate on constant memory whether the instance is well-formed or not, I have never seen such a memory explosion behaviour from the parser itself, or at least it was never reported. Maybe this is related to the way the exception is handled at the Python level (libxml2-2.6.14 just released slightly refactor libxml2 python exceptions classes but this looked safe to me, and the thread started before I pushed that release so ...) Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Thu Sep 30 06:42:19 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:42:19 +0300 Subject: fc3t2 - a hard lockup of system during use In-Reply-To: <200409291455.28540.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1096456581.4619.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <200409291455.28540.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1096526540.4171.4.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 14:55 +0100, Andy Green wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 29 September 2004 12:16, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > Hi > > > > Just had a hard lockup of system during use (desktop), the hdd kept > > trashing. ctrl+alt+backspace had to effect, nor switching to console. > > There's nothing about this in /var/log/messages or Xorg.log. > > What's your CPU? Not a Via C3 by any chance? no, intel celeron, mb/cpu/hdd are quite stable. video: i845gl, on board. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From michal at harddata.com Thu Sep 30 07:05:39 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:05:39 -0600 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <1096525998.25096.47.camel@binkley>; from skvidal@phy.duke.edu on Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 02:33:18AM -0400 References: <200409300634.i8U6Y8m14157@fat_man.ascendency.net> <1096525998.25096.47.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <20040930010539.A26318@mail.harddata.com> > > try upgrading yum to yum 2.1.4 and see if it makes any difference at > all. I tried that both with yum 2.1.3 and also after an update to 2.1.4. Result were the same and also runing yum with '-d2' and '-d3' did not bring anything which would make me wiser. Only after I guessed that ORBit2 packages may have something to do with the problem, and exluding those in the first phase, allowed me to proceed. Michal From mike at ascendency.net Thu Sep 30 07:24:30 2004 From: mike at ascendency.net (Mike Loiterman) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:24:30 -0500 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? Message-ID: <200409300726.i8U7QSm14510@fat_man.ascendency.net> Mike Loiterman wrote: > Michal Jaegermann wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:45:43AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: >>> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 23:45 -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: >>>> I'm doing yum update, but its only doing one package at a >>>> time...any idea why? >>>> >>>> I've done a yum clean all and I'm using version 2.1.4 >>> >>> What do you mean one package at a time? >> >> It seems to me that something went haywire with a dependency >> resolution and not really in yum but somewhere in rpm libraries. >> An attempt to use directly 'rpm -Fvh ...' with a bunch of packages >> from the current updates ends up with: >> >> error: Failed dependencies: >> linc >= 0.1.6 is needed by (installed) pyorbit-2.0.0-3.1 >> linc = 1.0.3 is needed by (installed) linc-devel-1.0.3-6 >> >> while 'rpm -q linc' responds with 'linc-1.0.3-6' and >> 'rpm -q linc-devel' with 'linc-devel-1.0.3-6'. This appears to trip >> yum. >> >> It seems that the real culprit is ORBit2, though, but why it >> triggers this problem is far from clear to me. Still, when other >> packages are updated then ORBit2, and ORBit2-devel, can be updated >> as well but only then. >> So what is the exact command sequence you used to update? ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike at ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E GPG Key: 0x661D0518 From esclavosoy.ml at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 07:31:05 2004 From: esclavosoy.ml at gmail.com (Gabriel Moreno) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:31:05 +0000 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <85e4e96404093000314d137e8c@mail.gmail.com> I have the exact same problem. Updated this morning. Tonight I rebooted and when it tries to switch to graphical mode it seems to stop booting up. No HD activitiy. Will most likely have to re-install bummer. You atleast can see your logs. Maybe you should bugzilla it. On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:29:35 -0400, Clyde Kunkel wrote: > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in line 79 > of /sbin/start_udev. Never get graphical login screen. Can blindly > login in, open tty2 and reboot. > > Anyone else having these probs? I am not an expert by any means and > appreciate any help anyone can provide? > > This is a multi-boot machine and am able to look at FC3T2 messages after > booting into FC2 and see the following about X crashing (partial > listing): > > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> > GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 169 > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.11.0 > 20020828 on minor 0: > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant > device at 0000:00:00.0. > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/radeon' > Sep 29 10:08:11 localhost gdm[4115]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X > error - Restarting :0 > Sep 29 10:08:11 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:11 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:14 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant > device at 0000:00:00.0. > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost gdm[4608]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X > error - Restarting :0 > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant > device at 0000:00:00.0. > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost gdm[4732]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X > error - Restarting :0 > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost gdm[3846]: deal_with_x_crashes: Running the > XKeepsCrashing script > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:22 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:22 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From esclavosoy.ml at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 07:36:23 2004 From: esclavosoy.ml at gmail.com (Gabriel Moreno) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:36:23 +0000 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 75 In-Reply-To: <4154DA5F.5060504@cox.net> References: <20040924105904.790B673430@hormel.redhat.com> <4154DA5F.5060504@cox.net> Message-ID: <85e4e96404093000362f525885@mail.gmail.com> I'm going to have to reinstall my system. Will try it. Not sure what selinux=0 does but I'll soon find out. Thanks! On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:39:27 -0400, Bill Cronk wrote: > > > > >Message: 2 > >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 06:44:25 +0000 > >From: Gabriel Moreno > >Subject: Not able to install with reiser option or no format option > >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >Message-ID: <85e4e9640409232344672215b2 at mail.gmail.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > >Hi, > > > >I was not able to install FC3test2 when I selected not to format my > >aready reiserfs partitions. When I passed the linux reiserfs same > >thing happened. it got stuck right before installing packages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Funny thing I went around in circles with the reiserfs problem and > FC2test2. What fixed my problem was entering at the install boot > prompt: linux reiserfs selinux=0 > > Without the selinux=0 you should find that the installation will not > start and will hang at the point where the reiserfs formating should occur. > > Bill > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From maxer1 at xmission.com Thu Sep 30 08:46:17 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (maxer1) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:46:17 -0600 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <20040930010539.A26318@mail.harddata.com> References: <200409300634.i8U6Y8m14157@fat_man.ascendency.net> <1096525998.25096.47.camel@binkley> <20040930010539.A26318@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <415BC7D9.8050800@xmission.com> Michal Jaegermann wrote: >>try upgrading yum to yum 2.1.4 and see if it makes any difference at >>all. >> >> > >I tried that both with yum 2.1.3 and also after an update to 2.1.4. >Result were the same and also runing yum with '-d2' and '-d3' did >not bring anything which would make me wiser. > >Only after I guessed that ORBit2 packages may have something to >do with the problem, and exluding those in the first phase, allowed >me to proceed. > > Same here. Did an yum --exclude=ORBit2 --exclude=ORBit2-devel update Worked great! RaXeT From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Thu Sep 30 09:36:28 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:36:28 +0200 Subject: Problem with yum updates tonight? In-Reply-To: <80d7e40904092916017f1ef3a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1096496477.32422.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <80d7e40904092916017f1ef3a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040930113628.0d2c7066.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:01:45 -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:21:17 +0100, Paul wrote: > > Hi, > > > > It could just be down to my boxes, but both at work (Salford Uni) and > > home, trying to run yum update seems to be running dog slow. Infact, I > > can't do an update as I get timeout errors. > > > > Is there a problem? I'm using 4 servers for getting my updates (inc. the > > RH one) > > > > I am getting an error that linc or linc-devel is not correctly in the > repository. I do not know if that is a reason for this slowdown. > > Error: missing dep: linc for pkg linc-devel http://bugzilla.redhat.com/134130 -- Fedora Core release 2.91 (FC3 Test 2) - Linux 2.6.8-1.541 loadavg: 1.31 1.17 0.81 From kyrre at solution-forge.net Thu Sep 30 10:50:46 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:50:46 +0200 Subject: ALSA drivers - Intel HD Audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096541446.2920.1.camel@kyrre> Try a logout/login of gnome. Can you play soundfiles using the "aplay" or "ogg123" commands from the comandline after loading the modules? If yes, go off editing /etc/modprobe.conf. tor, 30.09.2004 kl. 06.21 skrev Mister Ribbit: > Nobody with any advice? Anyone else have one of these new Intel > motherboards with sound working in FC3T2? > > I've now compiled the alsa-drivers and tried modprobing the azx > driver, which works, and things seem to work (programs don't complain > about no sound card and such), except I hear nothing. alsamixer does > not show the sound muted, so I don't think that's the problem. > system-config-soundcard still says "No soundcards detected." :-( > > Thanks! > > Ciao! > Ryan > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:09:14 -0700, Mister Ribbit > wrote: > > I have the new Intel HD Audio on board my Intel D915GEV motherboard, > > and I'm trying to get it working. I think I can do it if I compile > > the driver that Intel supplies on their web page, but they say that > > the driver has been handed off to the ALSA project, and I've found it > > in the alsa-driver 1.0.6 package (but not 1.0.5). I was wondering if > > FC3 would ship with an updated kernel to have the 1.0.6 driver (or the > > new 1.0.6a) so that it would be working straight out of the box in the > > future. Or, maybe you are on that set of drivers, and somehow have > > lost the azx driver for this hardware. From ernesto at ornl.gov Thu Sep 30 11:04:05 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:04:05 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update Message-ID: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA81A@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Gabriel Moreno Sent: Thu 9/30/2004 3:31 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update I have the exact same problem. Updated this morning. Tonight I rebooted and when it tries to switch to graphical mode it seems to stop booting up. No HD activitiy. Will most likely have to re-install bummer. You atleast can see your logs. Maybe you should bugzilla it. The above happened to me as well. Do the udev downgrade and all should be well. that is go back to "udev-032-2" On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:29:35 -0400, Clyde Kunkel wrote: > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in line 79 > of /sbin/start_udev. Never get graphical login screen. Can blindly > login in, open tty2 and reboot. > > Anyone else having these probs? I am not an expert by any means and > appreciate any help anyone can provide? > > This is a multi-boot machine and am able to look at FC3T2 messages after > booting into FC2 and see the following about X crashing (partial > listing): > > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> > GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 169 > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.11.0 > 20020828 on minor 0: > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant > device at 0000:00:00.0. > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > Sep 29 10:08:10 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/radeon' > Sep 29 10:08:11 localhost gdm[4115]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X > error - Restarting :0 > Sep 29 10:08:11 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:11 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:14 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant > device at 0000:00:00.0. > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:15 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost gdm[4608]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X > error - Restarting :0 > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:16 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:19 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant > device at 0000:00:00.0. > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at > 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:20 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost gdm[4732]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X > error - Restarting :0 > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost gdm[3846]: deal_with_x_crashes: Running the > XKeepsCrashing script > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcs8' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: removing device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs7' > Sep 29 10:08:21 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa7' > Sep 29 10:08:22 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcsa8' > Sep 29 10:08:22 localhost udev: creating device node '/dev/vcs8' > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Thu Sep 30 11:19:37 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:19:37 +0300 Subject: fc3t2: mrtg doesn't run? Message-ID: <1096543177.11037.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Hi Default mrtg cron won't execute: [root at marte cron.d]# cat /etc/cron.d/mrtg */5 * * * * root /usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg --lock- file /var/lock/mrtg/mrtg_l --confcache-file /var/lib/mrtg/mrtg.ok # mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ERROR: Mrtg will most likely not work properly when the environment variable LANG is set to UTF-8. Please run mrtg in an environment where this is not the case. Try the following command to start: env LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Even when running manually with env LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg --lock- file /var/lock/mrtg/mrtg_l --confcache-file /var/lib/mrtg/mrtg.ok it doesn't create any files in /var/www/mrtg strace shows, among others, open("/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/Socket6.pm", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Thu Sep 30 12:09:54 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:09:54 -0500 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> References: <1096471775.3886.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096473404.3044.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096478679.3886.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <19716.12.41.112.51.1096480496.squirrel@webmail.ec-group.com> Message-ID: <1096546194.1826.0.camel@mercury.stcl.edu> Adding the extra "fi" worked for me. Timothy On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 12:54 -0500, Brian Millett wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:56, Matias Feliciano wrote: > >> Le mer 29/09/2004 ? 17:29, Clyde Kunkel a ??crit : > >> > Finished updated FC3T2 this AM and get error msg unexpected } in > >> line 79 of /sbin/start_udev. > >> > >> Don't know if this is related but udev-032-4 seems broken. > >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg01189.html > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> -- > >> fedora-test-list mailing list > >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >> To unsubscribe: > >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > Yeah...saw this...too late...now trying to recover. Hope someone can > > tell me how. > > Well, I booted into single user. Vied /sbin/start_udev and added a 'fi' > to the code to fix the sintax error (see arrow): > > mount_udev() { > if [ -z "$SELINUX" ]; then > if [ -n "$selinuxfs" ] && [ "`cat > /proc/self/attr/current`" != "kernel" ]; then > if [ -r $selinuxfs/enforce ] ; then > SELINUX=`cat $selinuxfs/enforce` > else > # assume enforcing if you can't read it > SELINUX=1 > ----> fi > fi > fi > if [ -n "$SELINUX" -a "$SELINUX" = "1" -o "$SELINUX" = "enforcing" > ]; then > mount -n -o fscontext=system_u:object_r:device_t,mode=0755 \ > -t tmpfs none "$udev_root" >/dev/null 2>&1 && > return 0 > fi > mount -n -o mode=0755 -t tmpfs none "$udev_root" > return $? > } > > Then I rebooted and other than kudzu wanting to add a new graphic card > (which I ignored), it came up ok. > -- > Brian Millett > Enterprise Consulting Group "Shifts in paradigms > (314) 205-9030 often cause nose bleeds." > bpmATec-groupDOTcom Greg Glenn > > > From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Sep 30 12:23:51 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:23:51 -0400 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <415BC7D9.8050800@xmission.com> References: <200409300634.i8U6Y8m14157@fat_man.ascendency.net> <1096525998.25096.47.camel@binkley> <20040930010539.A26318@mail.harddata.com> <415BC7D9.8050800@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1096547031.25096.49.camel@binkley> > >Only after I guessed that ORBit2 packages may have something to > >do with the problem, and exluding those in the first phase, allowed > >me to proceed. > > > > > Same here. Did an yum --exclude=ORBit2 --exclude=ORBit2-devel update > > Worked great! So in both your cases yum would only update one package then exit unless you added the above exclude? -sv From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Thu Sep 30 12:29:41 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:29:41 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA81A@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> References: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA81A@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <1096547381.4975.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 07:04 -0400, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Gabriel Moreno > Sent: Thu 9/30/2004 3:31 AM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update > > I have the exact same problem. Updated this morning. Tonight I > rebooted and when it tries to switch to graphical mode it seems to > stop booting up. No HD activitiy. Will most likely have to > re-install bummer. You atleast can see your logs. Maybe you should > bugzilla it. > > The above happened to me as well. > Do the udev downgrade and all should be well. > that is go back to "udev-032-2" > > bugzilla is http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=134092 I could boot to run level 3 and used that environment to downgrade udev. Inserting the missing fi didn't work for me for some reason. From DJWOOD1 at qinetiq.com Thu Sep 30 12:34:10 2004 From: DJWOOD1 at qinetiq.com (Wood David) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:34:10 +0100 Subject: yum not updating fc3t1 to fc3t2 Message-ID: I've been using yum for ages, but failed to get yum 2.1.3 to update fc3t1 to fc3t2 because ... $yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: base repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files base : ################################################## 2665/2665 Excluding Packages Excluding Incompatible Archs Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.90 - i386 - Base Resolving Dependencies a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 1.1 MB 00:02 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 94, in main (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 131, in buildTransaction (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 151, in resolveDeps self.populateTs(test=1) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 115, in populateTs hdr = po.getHeader() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 272, in getHeader hdr = hlist[0] IndexError: list index out of range My hopes that 2.1.4 would fix it have been dashed ... $ yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: base repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files base : ################################################## 2665/2665 Resolving Dependencies a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 1.1 MB 00:01 Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Header is not complete. Error: failure: Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm from base: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. Any ideas? I completely deleted the /var/cache/yum directory first to see if that helped. The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored. Calls to QinetiQ may be recorded for quality control, regulatory and monitoring purposes. From alan at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 12:42:23 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:42:23 -0400 Subject: yum not updating fc3t1 to fc3t2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040930124223.GC28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 01:34:10PM +0100, Wood David wrote: > I've been using yum for ages, but failed to get yum 2.1.3 to update fc3t1 > to fc3t2 because ... Use a mirror like zeniiia.linux.org.uk, update yum specifically first > Resolving Dependencies > a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 1.1 MB 00:01 > Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Header is not complete. > Error: failure: Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm from base: [Errno 256] No > more mirrors to try. The primary download site is a little loaded 8) From alan at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 12:43:17 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:43:17 -0400 Subject: fc3t2: mrtg doesn't run? In-Reply-To: <1096543177.11037.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096543177.11037.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <20040930124317.GD28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 02:19:37PM +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > # mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ERROR: Mrtg will most likely not work properly when the environment > variable LANG is set to UTF-8. Please run mrtg in an environment > where this is not the case. Try the following command to start: > > env LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ughhh. That sounds like an opportunity to make some free space on the CD-ROM's > strace shows, among others, > open("/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/Socket6.pm", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) > = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) Please bugzilla - thats probably a dependancy error From DJWOOD1 at qinetiq.com Thu Sep 30 13:12:26 2004 From: DJWOOD1 at qinetiq.com (Wood David) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:12:26 +0100 Subject: yum not updating fc3t1 to fc3t2 Message-ID: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 01:34:10PM +0100, Wood David wrote: > > I've been using yum for ages, but failed to get yum 2.1.3 > to update fc3t1 > > to fc3t2 because ... > > Use a mirror like zeniiia.linux.org.uk, update yum specifically first > > > Resolving Dependencies > > a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| > 1.1 MB 00:01 > > Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Header is > not complete. > > Error: failure: Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm from > base: [Errno 256] No > > more mirrors to try. > > The primary download site is a little loaded 8) That doesn't solve the problem :( Here is my yum.conf (excluding commented out lines): [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=redhat-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 [base] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test /2.91/i386/os/ The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored. Calls to QinetiQ may be recorded for quality control, regulatory and monitoring purposes. From jonathansavage at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 13:18:02 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 06:18:02 -0700 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <1096547031.25096.49.camel@binkley> References: <200409300634.i8U6Y8m14157@fat_man.ascendency.net> <1096525998.25096.47.camel@binkley> <20040930010539.A26318@mail.harddata.com> <415BC7D9.8050800@xmission.com> <1096547031.25096.49.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <2ad7cea1040930061857e2cc42@mail.gmail.com> > So in both your cases yum would only update one package then exit unless > you added the above exclude? > > -sv I was seeing the same thing with yum 2.14-1. It was not really installing *anything* just getting one header at a time and exiting. [root at sw-lt01 ~]# yum --exclude=udev update Setting up Update Process Setting up Repo: development repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files developmen: ################################################## 3441/3441 Excluding Packages in global exclude list Finished Resolving Dependencies httpd-suexec-2.0.52-2.i38 100% |=========================| 18 kB 00:00 [root at sw-lt01 ~]# when excluding the ORBit2* stuff yum worked as expected. -- Bests, Jon ---- ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>?. >>> ???`?.?. , . .???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>> > From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Thu Sep 30 13:20:22 2004 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:20:22 -0300 Subject: fc3t2: mrtg doesn't run? In-Reply-To: <20040930124317.GD28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096543177.11037.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <20040930124317.GD28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096550422.29192.35.camel@steelgoose.com> Em Qui, 2004-09-30 ?s 09:43, Alan Cox escreveu: > Ughhh. That sounds like an opportunity to make some free space on the CD-ROM's :-) What other monitoring proggie would you recomend? I hate when my neighbours begin to use my connection to download big stuff, and this helps me a lot. -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Thu Sep 30 13:24:48 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:24:48 -0500 Subject: scp really slow with kernel 2.6.8-1.590 Message-ID: <1096550688.3350.4.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> When I run scp on 2.6.8-1.590 I get 110k throughput versus 15mb on kernel 2.6.8-1.r41. What's up with ssh? Timothy From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Thu Sep 30 13:42:34 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:42:34 -0500 Subject: xosview cpu0 and cpu1 reversed Message-ID: <1096551754.3178.1.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> xosview displays cpu's incorrectly on mcpu system. cpu0 is really cpu1 and vice-versa. Timothy From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Thu Sep 30 13:51:51 2004 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:51:51 -0400 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096547381.4975.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA81A@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> <1096547381.4975.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1096552311.4975.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 08:29 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 07:04 -0400, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Gabriel Moreno > > Sent: Thu 9/30/2004 3:31 AM > > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Subject: Re: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update > > > > I have the exact same problem. Updated this morning. Tonight I > > rebooted and when it tries to switch to graphical mode it seems to > > stop booting up. No HD activitiy. Will most likely have to > > re-install bummer. You atleast can see your logs. Maybe you should > > bugzilla it. > > > > The above happened to me as well. > > Do the udev downgrade and all should be well. > > that is go back to "udev-032-2" > > > > > > > bugzilla is http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=134092 > > I could boot to run level 3 and used that environment to downgrade udev. > Inserting the missing fi didn't work for me for some reason. > And now it looks like there is a problem with udev-032-5 that is fixed in 032-6 (see bugzilla above). Staying at 032-2 for now. From alan at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 13:57:59 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:57:59 -0400 Subject: fc3t2: mrtg doesn't run? In-Reply-To: <1096550422.29192.35.camel@steelgoose.com> References: <1096543177.11037.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <20040930124317.GD28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096550422.29192.35.camel@steelgoose.com> Message-ID: <20040930135759.GC11907@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:20:22AM -0300, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Qui, 2004-09-30 ?s 09:43, Alan Cox escreveu: > > Ughhh. That sounds like an opportunity to make some free space on the CD-ROM's > > :-) > > What other monitoring proggie would you recomend? I hate when my > neighbours begin to use my connection to download big stuff, and this > helps me a lot. No opinion there, but we shouldn't be leaving non unicode capable stuff in the base distro IMHO From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Thu Sep 30 14:24:08 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:24:08 -0400 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] Message-ID: Jeff Spaleta @redhat.com on 09/29/2004 05:01:18 PM wrote: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:41:17 -0400 wrote: > > The list of mirrors should/could at the very least be a package that > > we can download to get the 'latest set' of behaving mirrors. > > you create a server that holds a 'latest set' of behaving > mirrors...and keep that server running for people to use...and im sure > people will use it. It seems that the main server already has this list (because its not a local config (that I can find)). > > Can the master server check the mirrors to see if (all of) their transfers > > have been completed, and only then re-add that mirror to the list of > > candidates? > > Why does the master server have to do this. If you think this will > work...you create a seperate server, that tries to detect which > mirrors are synced. Read my rules of engagement in this discussion. Sorry, I just went back to find them, and read them > If you think you can get this to work...set it up on a community site and > host a list of 'good' mirrors. Show it works independant of the main > site. After trying to figure out why the 'package size' info reported by up2date is now broken, I don't have the time to figure out how its supposed to work. Since I haven't found any design notes or documentation on the communication process, or message flow used by up2date et.al., I gave up in frustration when faced with the massive amounts of reverse engineering that would be required. In this case I was complaining about a blatently 'dead' site, and to the best of my knowledge, has never worked since it was added to the master list. I know its manual, but the list of hosts that the master site maintains (and distributes) could easily, manually, be updated to remove this entry. One person, one time, 15 seconds, and the community would have one less thing to grip about. Give me access to that site, and I'll do it! > > Sure, it would be nicer if the mirror could just 'tell' the master, rather > > than > > have the master poll... > > Read my rules of engagement for this discussion. Sure it would be > nicer...but its not reality...its not going to happen..you arent going > to be able to demand this of mirrors and still expect as many mirror > admins with high bandwidth to volunteer to be a part of the official > mirror list. The reality of networking is that: a mirror isn't a mirror, unless its accessible, and it actually _is_ a mirror... volunteer or not. Wrong information is worse than no information. > > PITA scripts should be a prerequisite to becomming a mirror, or at the very > > least to be a mirror that gets put into the mirror list. > > shoulda,woulda,coulda... you clearly didn't read my ground rules for > participating in this discussion. And as promised I'm now going to > point and laugh at you. > > HaHa look at the funny person HeHe > You can laugh all you want, but that makes you part of the problem and not part of the solution. I'm sorry if you are not open to constructive criticism. ... snip ... > Face facts, you up the > maintainership burden to be a fedora official mirror and you will drop > the number of mirrors listed in the official list, since it really > makes no difference to most mirror admins if they are on the official > fedora list or not. See my statement above... If your not accessible, or not mirroring, then you are NOT a mirror, and shouldn't be on the official (communicated) list. > > I think thats too complicated. Something that notifies when the rsync is > > done is better. > Flying cars are better than cars with wheels....so what...you aren't > going to mandate that we all start using flying cars. Just like you > are not going to mandate to the mirrors that volunteer their bandwidth > to run addition services to make it easier for user to know when the > sync is done...it just isnt going to happen. Compared to the bandwidth used to actually mirror the sites, and to supply the mirror to the world, the notification process is a trial amount of bandwidth or effort. > There are political and > technical realities that must be considered and you aren't considering > them. Let me take a quick moment to point and laugh at you again. > HaHa...HeHe... Your laugh indicates your immaturity, and your reluctance to solve the problem. Your 'rules of engagement' provide a number of restrictions, but without justification. Given them, it is impossible to provide a usable environment. I contend that your rules are un-realistic. If the mirrors are using rsync, then there has to be a cron job (or equivalent) set up on the mirror to perform the sync. The mirror administrator has already committed to setting that up... and maintaining it. That cron job could easily be extended to perform its rsync in two stages, to address the headers versus RPMs issue, and to add an rsync that pushes back a nodeName, date stamp file back to the master site. Anyone, (and I'll volunteer, if the appropriate access rights and design information are given) can write the simple script that checks these files and builds the master list from it. From harald at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 14:02:06 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:02:06 +0200 Subject: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update In-Reply-To: <1096552311.4975.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1909FC5A05A75241AA6136AC9E84829B0FA81A@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> <1096547381.4975.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096552311.4975.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <415C11DE.6070702@redhat.com> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 08:29 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > >>On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 07:04 -0400, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: >> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Gabriel Moreno >>>Sent: Thu 9/30/2004 3:31 AM >>>To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >>>Subject: Re: start_udev and X crashing after latest FC3T2 update >>> >>>I have the exact same problem. Updated this morning. Tonight I >>>rebooted and when it tries to switch to graphical mode it seems to >>>stop booting up. No HD activitiy. Will most likely have to >>>re-install bummer. You atleast can see your logs. Maybe you should >>>bugzilla it. >>> >>>The above happened to me as well. >>>Do the udev downgrade and all should be well. >>>that is go back to "udev-032-2" >>> >>> >> >> >> >>bugzilla is http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=134092 >> >>I could boot to run level 3 and used that environment to downgrade udev. >>Inserting the missing fi didn't work for me for some reason. >> > > > And now it looks like there is a problem with udev-032-5 that is fixed > in 032-6 (see bugzilla above). Staying at 032-2 for now. > This is not a problem, just a harmless error message... From nphilipp at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 14:05:06 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:05:06 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1 Message-ID: <1096553106.15378.7.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-328 2004-09-30 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : gimp Version : 2.0.5 Release : 0.fc2.1 Summary : The GNU Image Manipulation Program Description : The GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) is a powerful image composition and editing program, which can be extremely useful for creating logos and other graphics for webpages. The GIMP has many of the tools and filters you would expect to find in similar commercial offerings, and some interesting extras as well. The GIMP provides a large image manipulation toolbox, including channel operations and layers, effects, sub-pixel imaging and anti-aliasing, and conversions, all with multi-level undo. The GIMP includes a scripting facility, but many of the included scripts rely on fonts that we cannot distribute. The GIMP FTP site has a package of fonts that you can install by yourself, which includes all the fonts needed to run the included scripts. Some of the fonts have unusual licensing requirements; all the licenses are documented in the package. Get ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/fonts/freefonts-0.10.tar.gz and ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/fonts/sharefonts-0.10.tar.gz if you are so inclined. Alternatively, choose fonts which exist on your system before running the scripts. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Sun Sep 26 2004 Nils Philippsen - rebuild for FC2 - don't run/require update-desktop-databases as it doesn't exist - don't buildrequire libwmf-devel - fix post/postun requirements * Sat Sep 25 2004 Nils Philippsen - version 2.0.5 * Thu Sep 16 2004 Nils Philippsen - rename desktop title (#132548) * Thu Aug 26 2004 Nils Philippsen - add MimeType to desktop file - run update-desktop-database in %post/%postun - don't make stunts with -32 or -64 postfixed binaries anymore - require /sbin/ldconfig and /usr/bin/update-desktop-database * Tue Aug 10 2004 Nils Philippsen - build requires libwmf-devel * Fri Aug 06 2004 Nils Philippsen - version 2.0.4 * Wed Aug 04 2004 Nils Philippsen - rebuild to pick up new libcroco * Thu Jul 22 2004 Nils Philippsen - version 2.0.3 - buildreq gtk2-devel >= 2.4.0 - use -32 or -64 postfixed binaries if available * Fri Jul 02 2004 Nils Philippsen - use included desktop (#126723), application-registry, mime-info and icon files - remove perl cruft (Gimp-Perl is an external package now) - further spec file cleaning --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 836cbe9f0b6624a56e691c0dd03447ce SRPMS/gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.src.rpm ad0705c1cd150bdc65de126aae5e7d04 x86_64/gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.x86_64.rpm 2cccb7b4466c7bd7bce3d387e62f1c45 x86_64/gimp-devel-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.x86_64.rpm 10b9211648506c8fb1652d3dbc6b394f x86_64/debug/gimp-debuginfo-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.x86_64.rpm 569a4102857a8d281a274980bcfafb2b i386/gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.i386.rpm 65b0c644f626c9581b81f8d216840c3d i386/gimp-devel-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.i386.rpm 38b74f1e9a8c162d8df141f578deed5c i386/debug/gimp-debuginfo-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 From michal at harddata.com Thu Sep 30 14:40:55 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:40:55 -0600 Subject: Yum update...only one at a time? In-Reply-To: <200409300726.i8U7QSm14510@fat_man.ascendency.net>; from mike@ascendency.net on Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 02:24:30AM -0500 References: <200409300726.i8U7QSm14510@fat_man.ascendency.net> Message-ID: <20040930084055.A3949@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 02:24:30AM -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: > > Michal Jaegermann wrote: > >> > >> It seems that the real culprit is ORBit2, though, ... > > So what is the exact command sequence you used to update? yum --exclude='ORBit2*' update yum update yum clean headers Michal From talbotscott at cox.net Thu Sep 30 15:03:18 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:03:18 -0700 Subject: yum not updating fc3t1 to fc3t2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096556602.4281.22.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:34 +0100, Wood David wrote: > I've been using yum for ages, but failed to get yum 2.1.3 to update fc3t1 > to fc3t2 because ... > > $yum update ^^^^ Maybe you could try this again after "su -"? HTH Scott > Setting up Update Process > Setting up Repo: base > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > base : ################################################## 2665/2665 > Excluding Packages > Excluding Incompatible Archs > Finished > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.90 - i386 - Base > Resolving Dependencies > a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 1.1 MB 00:02 > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? > main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 94, in main > (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 131, in > buildTransaction > (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 151, in > resolveDeps > self.populateTs(test=1) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 115, in > populateTs > hdr = po.getHeader() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 272, in > getHeader > hdr = hlist[0] > IndexError: list index out of range > > My hopes that 2.1.4 would fix it have been dashed ... > > $ yum update > Setting up Update Process > Setting up Repo: base > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > base : ################################################## 2665/2665 > Resolving Dependencies > a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| 1.1 MB 00:01 > Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Header is not complete. > Error: failure: Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm from base: [Errno 256] No > more mirrors to try. > > Any ideas? I completely deleted the /var/cache/yum directory first to see > if that helped. > > The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence > is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). > For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, > or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information > is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored. > Calls to QinetiQ may be recorded for quality control, > regulatory and monitoring purposes. > From joe.borne at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 15:27:17 2004 From: joe.borne at gmail.com (Joe Borne) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:27:17 -0400 Subject: can't edit crontab? In-Reply-To: <20040930135229.16B0073751@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040930135229.16B0073751@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <10503aff040930082777445ba1@mail.gmail.com> For some reason I can't edit crontab even if I am root? Is anyone else seeing this behavior? From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Thu Sep 30 15:27:58 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:27:58 +0300 Subject: fc3t2: mrtg doesn't run? In-Reply-To: <20040930124317.GD28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096543177.11037.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <20040930124317.GD28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096558079.3995.16.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 08:43 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > Please bugzilla - thats probably a dependancy error Thanks, wanted a confirmation first. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=134241 -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From jvdias at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 15:31:51 2004 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:31:51 -0400 Subject: can't edit crontab? In-Reply-To: <10503aff040930082777445ba1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040930135229.16B0073751@hormel.redhat.com> <10503aff040930082777445ba1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096558311.2571.7.camel@jvdsibm.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 11:27, Joe Borne wrote: > For some reason I can't edit crontab even if I am root? Is anyone else > seeing this behavior? Yes, sorry about this - there was a CVS mixup that caused this problem - it is fixed in the latest version: vixie-cron-4.1-17 . From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Thu Sep 30 15:35:41 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:35:41 +0300 Subject: openoffice.org copy/paste in sheet broken; ooo 1.9.x Message-ID: <1096558541.3995.23.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> With default fc3t2, having openoffice.org-1.1.2-3, copy-paste in spreadsheet (keyboard shortcuts or Edit menu) doesn't work. In Writer it works. There's no bug about this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora +Core&version=fc3test1&version=fc3test2&component=openoffice&component=openoffice.org&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&Search=Search Fortunately, ooo 1.9.x is available as RPMS from openoffice.org and they are working quite nice usually. I encourage people on the test list to use it by default (ooo 1.1.x works too, one can choose what to launch from menu) and help find the last bugs. Please check on ooo's issuezilla first before filling new bugs. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From DJWOOD1 at qinetiq.com Thu Sep 30 15:59:52 2004 From: DJWOOD1 at qinetiq.com (Wood David) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:59:52 +0100 Subject: yum not updating fc3t1 to fc3t2 Message-ID: Already running this as su. Tried using up2date instead, but got a dependency conflict with the x11-base-fonts (as it's gone in fc3t2). > > On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:34 +0100, Wood David wrote: > > I've been using yum for ages, but failed to get yum 2.1.3 > to update fc3t1 > > to fc3t2 because ... > > > > $yum update > ^^^^ > > Maybe you could try this again after "su -"? > > HTH > > Scott > > > > Setting up Update Process > > Setting up Repo: base > > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| > 1.1 kB 00:00 > > Reading repository metadata in from local files > > base : > ################################################## 2665/2665 > > Excluding Packages > > Excluding Incompatible Archs > > Finished > > Excluding Packages from Fedora Core 2.90 - i386 - Base > > Resolving Dependencies > > a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| > 1.1 MB 00:02 > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 139, in ? > > main(sys.argv[1:]) > > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 94, in main > > (result, resultmsgs) = base.buildTransaction() > > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", > line 131, in > > buildTransaction > > (rescode, restring) = self.resolveDeps() > > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", > line 151, in > > resolveDeps > > self.populateTs(test=1) > > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", > line 115, in > > populateTs > > hdr = po.getHeader() > > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/yum/packages.py", > line 272, in > > getHeader > > hdr = hlist[0] > > IndexError: list index out of range > > > > My hopes that 2.1.4 would fix it have been dashed ... > > > > $ yum update > > Setting up Update Process > > Setting up Repo: base > > repomd.xml 100% |=========================| > 1.1 kB 00:00 > > Reading repository metadata in from local files > > base : > ################################################## 2665/2665 > > Resolving Dependencies > > a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm 100% |=========================| > 1.1 MB 00:01 > > Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Header is > not complete. > > Error: failure: Fedora/RPMS/a2ps-4.13b-40.i386.rpm from > base: [Errno 256] No > > more mirrors to try. > > > > Any ideas? I completely deleted the /var/cache/yum > directory first to see > > if that helped. The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored. Calls to QinetiQ may be recorded for quality control, regulatory and monitoring purposes. From caolanm at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 17:12:10 2004 From: caolanm at redhat.com (Caolan McNamara) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:12:10 +0000 Subject: openoffice.org copy/paste in sheet broken; ooo 1.9.x In-Reply-To: <1096558541.3995.23.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096558541.3995.23.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1096564330.7723.51.camel@sheol.homelinux.org> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 18:35 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > With default fc3t2, having openoffice.org-1.1.2-3, copy-paste in > spreadsheet (keyboard shortcuts or Edit menu) doesn't work. In Writer it > works. sounds like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=129262 C. From nphilipp at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 16:14:27 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:14:27 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1 In-Reply-To: <1096553106.15378.7.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> References: <1096553106.15378.7.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096560866.7987.15.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> Forgot this: If all goes well, I want to make this final around end of next week. Nils On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 16:05, Nils Philippsen wrote: > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fedora Test Update Notification > FEDORA-2004-328 > 2004-09-30 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Product : Fedora Core 2 > Name : gimp > Version : 2.0.5 > Release : 0.fc2.1 > Summary : The GNU Image Manipulation Program > Description : > The GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) is a powerful image > composition and editing program, which can be extremely useful for > creating logos and other graphics for webpages. The GIMP has many of > the tools and filters you would expect to find in similar commercial > offerings, and some interesting extras as well. The GIMP provides a > large image manipulation toolbox, including channel operations and > layers, effects, sub-pixel imaging and anti-aliasing, and conversions, > all with multi-level undo. > > The GIMP includes a scripting facility, but many of the included > scripts rely on fonts that we cannot distribute. The GIMP FTP site > has a package of fonts that you can install by yourself, which > includes all the fonts needed to run the included scripts. Some of > the fonts have unusual licensing requirements; all the licenses are > documented in the package. Get > ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/fonts/freefonts-0.10.tar.gz and > ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/fonts/sharefonts-0.10.tar.gz if you are so > inclined. Alternatively, choose fonts which exist on your system > before running the scripts. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > * Sun Sep 26 2004 Nils Philippsen > > - rebuild for FC2 > - don't run/require update-desktop-databases as it doesn't exist > - don't buildrequire libwmf-devel > - fix post/postun requirements > > * Sat Sep 25 2004 Nils Philippsen > > - version 2.0.5 > > * Thu Sep 16 2004 Nils Philippsen > > - rename desktop title (#132548) > > * Thu Aug 26 2004 Nils Philippsen > > - add MimeType to desktop file > - run update-desktop-database in %post/%postun > - don't make stunts with -32 or -64 postfixed binaries anymore > - require /sbin/ldconfig and /usr/bin/update-desktop-database > > * Tue Aug 10 2004 Nils Philippsen > > - build requires libwmf-devel > > * Fri Aug 06 2004 Nils Philippsen > > - version 2.0.4 > > * Wed Aug 04 2004 Nils Philippsen > > - rebuild to pick up new libcroco > > * Thu Jul 22 2004 Nils Philippsen > > - version 2.0.3 > - buildreq gtk2-devel >= 2.4.0 > - use -32 or -64 postfixed binaries if available > > * Fri Jul 02 2004 Nils Philippsen > > - use included desktop (#126723), application-registry, mime-info and > icon files > - remove perl cruft (Gimp-Perl is an external package now) > - further spec file cleaning > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > This update can be downloaded from: > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ > > 836cbe9f0b6624a56e691c0dd03447ce SRPMS/gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.src.rpm > ad0705c1cd150bdc65de126aae5e7d04 x86_64/gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.x86_64.rpm > 2cccb7b4466c7bd7bce3d387e62f1c45 x86_64/gimp-devel-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.x86_64.rpm > 10b9211648506c8fb1652d3dbc6b394f x86_64/debug/gimp-debuginfo-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.x86_64.rpm > 569a4102857a8d281a274980bcfafb2b i386/gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.i386.rpm > 65b0c644f626c9581b81f8d216840c3d i386/gimp-devel-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.i386.rpm > 38b74f1e9a8c162d8df141f578deed5c i386/debug/gimp-debuginfo-2.0.5-0.fc2.1.i386.rpm > > This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can > launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. 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Thanks. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From dcbw at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 16:30:31 2004 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:30:31 -0400 Subject: openoffice.org copy/paste in sheet broken; ooo 1.9.x In-Reply-To: <1096558541.3995.23.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1096558541.3995.23.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1096561831.29243.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Yes, please update your Ooo. Dan On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 18:35 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > With default fc3t2, having openoffice.org-1.1.2-3, copy-paste in > spreadsheet (keyboard shortcuts or Edit menu) doesn't work. In Writer it > works. > > There's no bug about this: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora > +Core&version=fc3test1&version=fc3test2&component=openoffice&component=openoffice.org&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&Search=Search > > Fortunately, ooo 1.9.x is available as RPMS from openoffice.org and they > are working quite nice usually. I encourage people on the test list to > use it by default (ooo 1.1.x works too, one can choose what to launch > from menu) and help find the last bugs. Please check on ooo's issuezilla > first before filling new bugs. > > -- > Marius Andreiana > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > http://www.galuna.ro > From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 16:31:47 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:31:47 -0400 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa79104093009313cc566f8@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:24:08 -0400, fulko.hew at sita.aero wrote: > In this case I was complaining about a blatently 'dead' site, and to > the best of my knowledge, has never worked since it was added to the > master list. I know its manual, but the list of hosts that the master site > maintains (and distributes) could easily, manually, be updated to remove > this entry. One person, one time, 15 seconds, and the community would > have one less thing to grip about. Give me access to that site, and I'll > do it! You want a dead site removed from the default mirror list? Is that all you want? Have you filed a bug in bugzilla about it? Because the only way to get any bugs fixed..is to get bugs filed in bugzilla. Getting a known dead mirror dropped from a list.. takes 15 seconds for you as a user to file as a bug report to inform the up2date package maintainer about. But you talked about much more than just getting known dead sites removed from statically created manually maintained lists. > You can laugh all you want, but that makes you part of the problem > and not part of the solution. I'm sorry if you are not open to > constructive criticism. This isn't constructive. But if you want to be constructive I will give you some homework. You go to the official mirror list, contact each mirror list admin on the list currently. Ask them politely ask if they would be willing to implement new PITA script logic that is fedora specific to communicate back to a centralized server and see how many mirror admins are willing to do it. To a lot of mirror admins, fedora is just one of many ftp/rsync trees that they mirror, and implementing special script logic just for fedora is not something they want to do just to be listed on a list. The hard issue is not technical..there are technical solutions... its not hard to dream one up... its not hard to implement a proof of concept. The hard issue is political. You have to get mirror admins to agree to use fedora's special PITA script logic if you implement it. Please, by all means, start communicating with the mirror admins and get them to agree to implement special script logic. But as I have suggested... the best way forward..before we start DEMANDING mirrors to use new script logic..is for someone in the community... to implement a proof of concept service and start getting mirror admins who are willing to test/use the service to be apart of the testing. I'm quite sure if you started screwing around with a service that attempted to provide a dynamic mirrorlist to use that could accurately describe which mirrors were in sync with the master mirror, you would find one or two mirror admins who would be willing to help and you certaintly would find community willing to use it. But any discussion that starts with demanding mirror admins to do anything extra to be listed... is a non-starter. The hard part is political, and you aren't going to win political points by demanding new policies on the mirror admins. Are you willing to drop 80% of the mirror list by demanding specialized script logic? There is no point i demand a technical solution that mirror admins aren't going to use. > Compared to the bandwidth used to actually mirror the sites, and to supply > the mirror to the world, the notification process is a trial amount of > bandwidth or effort. Fine.. build a server and a service and the mirror side scripts and offer it for community to test. Demanding red hat build this and demanding mirror admins to use this doesn't get us anywhere faster. So, i await your email to fedora-list advertising your new dynamic mirror list service for up2date. I can't wait to test it. -jef From twaugh at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 16:41:00 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:41:00 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1 In-Reply-To: <1096560866.7987.15.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> References: <1096553106.15378.7.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <1096560866.7987.15.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040930164100.GO21098@redhat.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 06:14:27PM +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can > > launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may > > need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within > > /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: > > yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- 404: Page not found When will we fix this link? Or if we don't fix it, can we take the above paragraph out from the test update notices? Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From awd at DDG.com Thu Sep 30 17:10:38 2004 From: awd at DDG.com (Andrew W. Donoho) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:10:38 -0500 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Folks, Forgive my jumping into what looks like an increasingly unproductive discussion but I have an idea that might help all involved: Problems that need to be solved: 1) Not enough community mirrors. 2) Tester demand for up to the minute Rawhide updates. Potential two part answer: a) Point yum to a local repository. b) Fill that repository via a daily torrent of upgraded Rawhide RPMs. Change the .torrent document daily. Probably a straightforward scripting problem. Benefits to Redhat: 1) Torrents are, probably, a lower load on your server. 2) Users contribute to solving the problem instead of whining about dead mirrors. 3) Eventually move all Fedora users to this model. Make it the default. Benefits to Fedora users: 1) Get relatively rapid access to new RPMs. 2) Simple but valuable contribution of bandwidth to the Fedora cause. I know I would feel better getting my updates via a torrent. 3) Yum delays from overloaded servers are a thing of the past. Thoughts? Best Regards, Andrew ____________________________________ Andrew W. Donoho awd at DDG.com, PGP Key ID: 0x81D0F250 +1 (512) 453-6652 (o), +1 (512) 750-7596 (m) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You'll never be able to sync it all and most people will be fairly pissed about eating up that much space. > Benefits to Redhat: > 1) Torrents are, probably, a lower load on your server. > 2) Users contribute to solving the problem instead of whining > aboutdead mirrors. > 3) Eventually move all Fedora users to this model. Make it the > default. > > Benefits to Fedora users: > 1) Get relatively rapid access to new RPMs. once you get passed all the overhead involved. > 2) Simple but valuable contribution of bandwidth to the Fedora cause.I > know I would feel better getting my updates via a torrent. How do you separate out your updates from all the other crap? -sv From awd at DDG.com Thu Sep 30 17:46:15 2004 From: awd at DDG.com (Andrew W. Donoho) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:46:15 -0500 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: <1096564829.28700.3.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> <1096564829.28700.3.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: On Sep 30, 2004, at 12:20, seth vidal wrote: >> Potential two part answer: >> a) Point yum to a local repository. >> b) Fill that repository via a daily torrent of upgraded Rawhide >> RPMs.Change the .torrent >> document daily. Probably a straightforward scripting problem. > > A torrent of ALL of rawhide is 50+GB of disk space. Please read what I wrote - "a daily torrent of upgraded Rawhide RPMs". Nothing in that statement says anyone has to keep them beyond the day they came out. Nor does it say that every user needs to keep a full archive of Rawhide. > You'll never be able to sync it all and most people will be fairly > pissed about eating up that much space. See the above comment. >> Benefits to Redhat: >> 1) Torrents are, probably, a lower load on your server. >> 2) Users contribute to solving the problem instead of whining >> aboutdead mirrors. >> 3) Eventually move all Fedora users to this model. Make it the >> default. >> >> Benefits to Fedora users: >> 1) Get relatively rapid access to new RPMs. > once you get passed all the overhead involved. This is no different than the delay getting to download updated RPMs today. Or are you still misreading my above statements and assuming that I proposed a full backup of Rawhide to each Fedora user? >> 2) Simple but valuable contribution of bandwidth to the Fedora cause.I >> know I would feel better getting my updates via a torrent. > > How do you separate out your updates from all the other crap? This will require some scripting on the Redhat side of the repository but it is something they fully control - yum, up2date, Fedora Distribution, Rawhide update policies. I think this meets all or most of Mr. Spaleta's constraints and provides benefits to Redhat and users. Andrew ____________________________________ Andrew W. Donoho awd at DDG.com, PGP Key ID: 0x81D0F250 +1 (512) 453-6652 (o), +1 (512) 750-7596 (m) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Moreover they'll need ALL the packages as an example: day1: pkgx is shipped day2: pkgy is shipped day3: pkgy is updated with a requirement on pkgx now if you're only getting updates and you're not keeping them where do you get pkgx from? > This is no different than the delay getting to download updated > RPMstoday. Or are you still misreading my above statements and > assumingthat I proposed a full backup of Rawhide to each Fedora user? > This will require some scripting on the Redhat side of the > repositorybut it is something they fully control - yum, up2date, > FedoraDistribution, Rawhide update policies. I beg to differ with you. Red Hat does NOT control yum development and with no offense to the people at red hat, they've shown remarkably little mirror guidance or leadership. > I think this meets all or mostof Mr. Spaleta's constraints and > provides benefits to Redhat and users. Except for the incredible overhead of running a torrent seed on each client. People always forget that part. -sv From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 18:14:23 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:14:23 -0400 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> <1096564829.28700.3.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Message-ID: <604aa79104093011147d1acf3d@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:46:15 -0500, Andrew W. Donoho wrote: > This will require some scripting on the Redhat side of the repository > but it is something they fully control - yum, up2date, Fedora > Distribution, Rawhide update policies. I think this meets all or most > of Mr. Spaleta's constraints and provides benefits to Redhat and users. HeHe you said torrent HeHe Constraint one... the mirror system is not a p2p network. That constraint was aimed directly at anyone suggesting bittorrent as a way forward. I frankly don't care much about how well rawhide works. I believe everything about rawhide from how packages are pushed to the main server to how people access mirrors is inherently unstable, fragile and prone to breaking. Testers using rawhide should expect breakage and be prepared for it. Building any service meant primarily to satify the demands of access to rawhide is a waste of development manhours. I care far far more about finding a way to give each client computer a way to get a reasonable accurate list of mirrors that works well and reliably for access to released updates and base packages for full releases. If discussion isn't framed around this being the central goal, I'm not overly interested in it. -jef"hehe rawhide torrent hehe..thats a good one"spaleta From mister.ribbit at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 18:22:15 2004 From: mister.ribbit at gmail.com (Mister Ribbit) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:22:15 -0700 Subject: ALSA drivers - Intel HD Audio In-Reply-To: <1096541446.2920.1.camel@kyrre> References: <1096541446.2920.1.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: A logout/login doesn't seem to fix it. As for aplay, it doesn't complain, but I get no sound. Thanks for the suggestions! Should I try filing a bug somewhere? Ciao! Ryab On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:50:46 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > Try a logout/login of gnome. Can you play soundfiles using the "aplay" > or "ogg123" commands from the comandline after loading the modules? If > yes, go off editing /etc/modprobe.conf. > > tor, 30.09.2004 kl. 06.21 skrev Mister Ribbit: > > > > Nobody with any advice? Anyone else have one of these new Intel > > motherboards with sound working in FC3T2? > > > > I've now compiled the alsa-drivers and tried modprobing the azx > > driver, which works, and things seem to work (programs don't complain > > about no sound card and such), except I hear nothing. alsamixer does > > not show the sound muted, so I don't think that's the problem. > > system-config-soundcard still says "No soundcards detected." :-( > > > > Thanks! > > > > Ciao! > > Ryan > > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:09:14 -0700, Mister Ribbit > > wrote: > > > I have the new Intel HD Audio on board my Intel D915GEV motherboard, > > > and I'm trying to get it working. I think I can do it if I compile > > > the driver that Intel supplies on their web page, but they say that > > > the driver has been handed off to the ALSA project, and I've found it > > > in the alsa-driver 1.0.6 package (but not 1.0.5). I was wondering if > > > FC3 would ship with an updated kernel to have the 1.0.6 driver (or the > > > new 1.0.6a) so that it would be working straight out of the box in the > > > future. Or, maybe you are on that set of drivers, and somehow have > > > lost the azx driver for this hardware. > > From notting at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 18:31:16 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:31:16 -0400 Subject: fc3t2: mrtg doesn't run? In-Reply-To: <20040930135759.GC11907@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096543177.11037.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <20040930124317.GD28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096550422.29192.35.camel@steelgoose.com> <20040930135759.GC11907@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040930183116.GC28139@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Alan Cox (alan at redhat.com) said: > > What other monitoring proggie would you recomend? I hate when my > > neighbours begin to use my connection to download big stuff, and this > > helps me a lot. > > No opinion there, but we shouldn't be leaving non unicode capable stuff in > the base distro IMHO > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list One option is cacti. http://www.cacti.net/ Bill From notting at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 18:36:09 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:36:09 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1 In-Reply-To: <20040930164100.GO21098@redhat.com> References: <1096553106.15378.7.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <1096560866.7987.15.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <20040930164100.GO21098@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040930183609.GD28139@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Tim Waugh (twaugh at redhat.com) said: > When will we fix this link? Or if we don't fix it, can we take the > above paragraph out from the test update notices? Template script changed. Bill From kyrre at solution-forge.net Thu Sep 30 18:36:47 2004 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:36:47 +0200 Subject: ALSA drivers - Intel HD Audio In-Reply-To: References: <1096541446.2920.1.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: <1096569406.2864.11.camel@kyrre> Hmm... maybe you should. I would suggest "kernel". You said aplay dont complain. Did you give it a file to play? ie. aplay /path/to/wawe.waw ? In alsamixer, are the volumes turned up? Does modprobe snd-??? give any messages? lsmod? can you get any sound out of ogg123? Kyrre tor, 30.09.2004 kl. 20.22 skrev Mister Ribbit: > A logout/login doesn't seem to fix it. As for aplay, it doesn't > complain, but I get no sound. > > Thanks for the suggestions! Should I try filing a bug somewhere? > > Ciao! > Ryab > > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:50:46 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak > wrote: > > Try a logout/login of gnome. Can you play soundfiles using the "aplay" > > or "ogg123" commands from the comandline after loading the modules? If > > yes, go off editing /etc/modprobe.conf. > > > > tor, 30.09.2004 kl. 06.21 skrev Mister Ribbit: > > > > > > > Nobody with any advice? Anyone else have one of these new Intel > > > motherboards with sound working in FC3T2? > > > > > > I've now compiled the alsa-drivers and tried modprobing the azx > > > driver, which works, and things seem to work (programs don't complain > > > about no sound card and such), except I hear nothing. alsamixer does > > > not show the sound muted, so I don't think that's the problem. > > > system-config-soundcard still says "No soundcards detected." :-( > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Ciao! > > > Ryan > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:09:14 -0700, Mister Ribbit > > > wrote: > > > > I have the new Intel HD Audio on board my Intel D915GEV motherboard, > > > > and I'm trying to get it working. I think I can do it if I compile > > > > the driver that Intel supplies on their web page, but they say that > > > > the driver has been handed off to the ALSA project, and I've found it > > > > in the alsa-driver 1.0.6 package (but not 1.0.5). I was wondering if > > > > FC3 would ship with an updated kernel to have the 1.0.6 driver (or the > > > > new 1.0.6a) so that it would be working straight out of the box in the > > > > future. Or, maybe you are on that set of drivers, and somehow have > > > > lost the azx driver for this hardware. > > > > From fedora at leemhuis.info Thu Sep 30 18:46:30 2004 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:46:30 +0200 Subject: ALSA drivers - Intel HD Audio In-Reply-To: References: <1096541446.2920.1.camel@kyrre> Message-ID: <1096569990.2702.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2004, 11:22 -0700 schrieb Mister Ribbit: > A logout/login doesn't seem to fix it. As for aplay, it doesn't > complain, but I get no sound. You of course unmuted Master- and PCM-Volume with alsamixer? (Maybe someone suggested this already, if, please forgive me) > Thanks for the suggestions! Should I try filing a bug somewhere? I tried this today on another intel board and failed also until now. Seems merely and upstream issue ATM AFAICS. Cu thl > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:50:46 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak > wrote: > > Try a logout/login of gnome. Can you play soundfiles using the "aplay" > > or "ogg123" commands from the comandline after loading the modules? If > > yes, go off editing /etc/modprobe.conf. > > > > tor, 30.09.2004 kl. 06.21 skrev Mister Ribbit: > > > > > > > Nobody with any advice? Anyone else have one of these new Intel > > > motherboards with sound working in FC3T2? > > > > > > I've now compiled the alsa-drivers and tried modprobing the azx > > > driver, which works, and things seem to work (programs don't complain > > > about no sound card and such), except I hear nothing. alsamixer does > > > not show the sound muted, so I don't think that's the problem. > > > system-config-soundcard still says "No soundcards detected." :-( > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Ciao! > > > Ryan > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:09:14 -0700, Mister Ribbit > > > wrote: > > > > I have the new Intel HD Audio on board my Intel D915GEV motherboard, > > > > and I'm trying to get it working. I think I can do it if I compile > > > > the driver that Intel supplies on their web page, but they say that > > > > the driver has been handed off to the ALSA project, and I've found it > > > > in the alsa-driver 1.0.6 package (but not 1.0.5). I was wondering if > > > > FC3 would ship with an updated kernel to have the 1.0.6 driver (or the > > > > new 1.0.6a) so that it would be working straight out of the box in the > > > > future. Or, maybe you are on that set of drivers, and somehow have > > > > lost the azx driver for this hardware. > > > > > -- Thorsten Leemhuis From jonathansavage at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 19:03:41 2004 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:03:41 -0700 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: <604aa79104093011147d1acf3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> <1096564829.28700.3.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <604aa79104093011147d1acf3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad7cea1040930120342f03a5f@mail.gmail.com> > I care far far more about finding a way to give each client computer a > way to get a reasonable accurate list of mirrors that works well and > reliably for access to released updates and base packages for full > releases. If discussion isn't framed around this being the central > goal, I'm not overly interested in it. IMHO much of the weirdness with up2date and to a lesser degree with yum stems from mirror selection issues. The best solution currently seems to require that each OP hand edit his/her relevant configuration file(s) to point to more "desirable" mirrors. I've found up2date to work poorly at best since FC1; note that I don't so much mind breakage in the test releases since there are typically in excess of 50 package updates a day. Perhaps a solution similar to the one fedora.us has implemented with their version of apt could be applied to up2date/yum namely the first time the app is run the OP gets a TUI that allows for mirror selections. Painless & effective. Hoping this suggestion falls within Jef's ground rules else I'll be taunted as well ;) --- Bests, Jon ---- ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>?. >>> ???`?.?. , . .???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><((((?>> > From tdiehl at rogueind.com Thu Sep 30 19:15:19 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: fc3t2: mrtg doesn't run? In-Reply-To: <20040930135759.GC11907@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096543177.11037.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <20040930124317.GD28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096550422.29192.35.camel@steelgoose.com> <20040930135759.GC11907@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Alan Cox wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:20:22AM -0300, Alexandre Strube wrote: > > Em Qui, 2004-09-30 ?s 09:43, Alan Cox escreveu: > > > Ughhh. That sounds like an opportunity to make some free space on the CD-ROM's > > > > :-) > > > > What other monitoring proggie would you recomend? I hate when my > > neighbours begin to use my connection to download big stuff, and this > > helps me a lot. > > No opinion there, but we shouldn't be leaving non unicode capable stuff in > the base distro IMHO I thought that warning was because of problems with perl modules not mrtg itself? IIRC that warning appeared back when utf-8 was first added to the distro and perl the perl modules could not handle it. If this is correct are we removing perl? :-) Tom From johnbs at tele2.fr Thu Sep 30 19:23:53 2004 From: johnbs at tele2.fr (john brennan-sardou) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:23:53 +0200 Subject: On the edge and bleeding heavily. Message-ID: <200409302123.53531.johnbs@tele2.fr> Good evening everybody, Just trying to install fc3 test2 by a dvd iso and it does not work. Simply because after booting and asking what language and keyboard I have fc3 refuses to recognise the dvd reader or the dvd copier which are on my system. Funny enough it seems to have recognised them at the beginning in order to boot. It keeps asking for the cd. Tough I only have dvd units on my system. Any ideas please? John Brennan-Sardou. From cra at WPI.EDU Thu Sep 30 19:33:11 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:33:11 -0400 Subject: fc3t2: mrtg doesn't run? In-Reply-To: <20040930183116.GC28139@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096543177.11037.2.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <20040930124317.GD28096@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1096550422.29192.35.camel@steelgoose.com> <20040930135759.GC11907@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040930183116.GC28139@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040930193311.GQ5537@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 02:31:16PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Alan Cox (alan at redhat.com) said: > > > What other monitoring proggie would you recomend? I hate when my > > > neighbours begin to use my connection to download big stuff, and this > > > helps me a lot. > > > > No opinion there, but we shouldn't be leaving non unicode capable stuff in > > the base distro IMHO > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > One option is cacti. > > http://www.cacti.net/ Another is cricket: http://cricket.sourceforge.net/ From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Sep 30 19:50:19 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:50:19 -0400 Subject: Automated Mirror Selection [Re: Worst experience with Up2Date ever.] In-Reply-To: <2ad7cea1040930120342f03a5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1095856115.4615.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa791040929071365d597c8@mail.gmail.com> <1096564829.28700.3.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <604aa79104093011147d1acf3d@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea1040930120342f03a5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1096573819.28700.29.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 15:03, Jon Savage wrote: > > I care far far more about finding a way to give each client computer a > > way to get a reasonable accurate list of mirrors that works well and > > reliably for access to released updates and base packages for full > > releases. If discussion isn't framed around this being the central > > goal, I'm not overly interested in it. > > IMHO much of the weirdness with up2date and to a lesser degree with > yum stems from mirror selection issues. The best solution currently > seems to require that each OP hand edit his/her relevant > configuration file(s) to point to more "desirable" mirrors. I've found > up2date to work poorly at best since FC1; note that I don't so much > mind breakage in the test releases since there are typically in excess > of 50 package updates a day. > > Perhaps a solution similar to the one fedora.us has implemented with > their version of apt could be applied to up2date/yum namely the first > time the app is run the OP gets a TUI that allows for mirror > selections. Painless & effective. except when the person kickstarts the system and expects it to be updated. chkconfig yum on and then it just uses whatever is the default mirror and you're back to square one -sv From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Thu Sep 30 20:36:39 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:36:39 +0100 Subject: Upgrading Evolution 1.4 to 2.0 In-Reply-To: <1096396618.5521.5.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1096396018.3606.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1096396618.5521.5.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096576599.4783.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thanks for your reply. (I was out of the office yesterday so I've only just had a chance to try it). > Try shutting down evolution, running gconf-editor, and browsing > to /apps/evolution. You should see two keys "last_version" and > "version". Try editing them to "1.4.6" (the version she was running > with the old data), and then restart Evolution. It should now try to > migrate the data from ~/evolution to ~/.evolution (it might trash any > data you've set up in ~/.evolution since the reinstall, though) > > Does this fix it? Unfortunately this doesn't fix the issue. Changing the key to 1.4.6 merely causes Evolution to say: Delete old data from version 1.4.6? The previous version of evolution stored its data in a different location. If you choose to remove this data, the entire contents of the "evolution" directory will be removed permanently. If you choose to keep this data, then you may manually remote the contents of "evolution" at your convenience. Choosing any option doesn't bring her old folders back... From alan at redhat.com Thu Sep 30 21:14:40 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:14:40 -0400 Subject: On the edge and bleeding heavily. In-Reply-To: <200409302123.53531.johnbs@tele2.fr> References: <200409302123.53531.johnbs@tele2.fr> Message-ID: <20040930211440.GA27138@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:23:53PM +0200, john brennan-sardou wrote: > Just trying to install fc3 test2 by a dvd iso and it does not work. Simply > because after booting and asking what language and keyboard I have fc3 > refuses to recognise the dvd reader or the dvd copier which are on my system. > Funny enough it seems to have recognised them at the beginning in order to > boot. It keeps asking for the cd. Tough I only have dvd units on my system. > Any ideas please? What hardware do you have - the boot is loaded by the BIOS so it is possible for the BIOS to see your DVD and not Linux and get in this state. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu Sep 30 21:21:14 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:21:14 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gimp-2.0.5-0.fc2.1 In-Reply-To: <20040930183609.GD28139@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1096553106.15378.7.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <20040930164100.GO21098@redhat.com> <20040930183609.GD28139@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200409301721.14353.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 30 September 2004 14:36, Bill Nottingham wrote: >Tim Waugh (twaugh at redhat.com) said: >> When will we fix this link? Or if we don't fix it, can we take >> the above paragraph out from the test update notices? > >Template script changed. > >Bill It also refuses to install if one has nuked gimp-print and installed it by its new name, gutenprint. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From linxt at comcast.net Thu Sep 30 21:33:18 2004 From: linxt at comcast.net (Tom Taylor) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:33:18 -0700 Subject: Kmail 1.7 problem Message-ID: <200409301433.18430.linxt@comcast.net> Hi All: Kmail 1.7 (Using KDE 3.3.0-2 Red Hat) Fedora Core 3 test 2 kernel 2.6.8-1.541smp Since I'm using a test distro I'll also send this to FC-test list. Once I managed to get the configuration setup correctly the program works fine as far as up/downloading mail. The problem I've encountered is in trying to change the headers view. Under the 'View' menu, the headers item is grayed out and there is no way to go into 'Settings-Kmail' and change the type of headers to display (long, fancy, standard, etc). To try to bypass this lack, I tried 'Settings-Configure Toolbars', adding "Show All message headers" and "Show long list of message headers" to the toolbar. The first time I clicked on "Show all message headers", it seemed to work properly, expanding the header list from "long headers" to "all headers". The problem presents when I clicked on "Show long message headers" and received a signal 11 (SIGSEGV) message and the program bombed. I'm attaching the backtrace log for review. Ever since that change I have been stuck in the "show all headers" mode. Any time I try to change it results in the signal 11 message and the program bombs. Should I try reloading just Kmail, all KDE, or ?? Thanks, Tom -- Tom Taylor registered linux user #263467 "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we," "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither do we." - George W. Bush, Aug 2004