FC4t2 no good without LILO

[Guy Fraser]

On Thu, 2005-14-04 at 14:52 -0400, Paul Iadonisi wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 11:02 -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >  and we've shown that the
> > obvious "grub-install --recheck /dev/md0" does not install Grub to any
> > of the MBR's.  Redhat has thus far been unable to tell us any new magic
> > spells for making Grub do what Redhat vaguely implies that Grub can now
> > do.
> 
> [snip]
> 
>   Avoiding the temptation I have to demonstrate how patently false and
> divisive most (but not all) of the rest of your post is, I will address
> only this point.
>   There is no excuse for this deliberately deceptive claim, especially
> when YOU participated in the rather short thread where I proved
> otherwise.  "grub-install --recheck /dev/md0" (and probably even without
> the --recheck if your hardware hasn't changed) works.  Why you chose to
> ignore my test case is beyond me.  The characters 'LILO' still left
> behind (as a remnant) after doing the grub-install has no bearing
> whatsoever on whether or not grub was really installed.  I haven't
> looked at the code, so I don't know why that is, but it most definitely
> IS.

I'm going to jump out on a limb here. Maybe it's because your test 
case *FAILED* to work for him. Just a guess, and I know I could be 
wrong, but at least I'll admit to it, can you!

>   I did that test, believe it or not, with some skepticism based on my
> past experience with grub on software RAID 1.  The results surprised me.
> After describing my unexpected success, I sort of expected
> (understandably) others to say 'oh, hey, maybe it is fixed, let me check
> for myself on my test systems.'  If you're not willing to do that, when
> I -- someone who has had a long history of the same software RAID 1
> problem as others -- have demonstrated that the problem is at long last
> SOLVED for my configuration, then I have to wonder why your are
> subscribed at all to fedora-test-list.
>   Some posters have demonstrated that there are some legitimate gripes
> about this whole mess.  You raise questions about your credibility when
> you demonstrate an unwillingness to admit that maybe, just maybe,
> *something* truly has been fixed.
>   So please, test -- to confirm or rebut -- what one skeptical, long
> term, somewhat frustrated grub-on-software-raid1 user has successfully
> tested.  If you and/or others come back with corroboration of what I've
> found, maybe we can *finally* declare the problem fixed and call an end
> to at least ONE aspect of this thread: grub on software raid 1.  And
> then deal with other alleged problems.
> -- 
> -Paul Iadonisi
>  Senior System Administrator
>  Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist
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