A rant regarding LILO and various other related issues

[James W. Bennett]

Timothy Murphy wrote:

>On Fri 15 Apr 2005 19:13, Paul Iadonisi wrote:
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>>>I find the arrogance of the Fedora team in failing to facilitate this
>>>minority rather disturbing.
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>>  If you are referring primarily to this thread, then it's crystal clear
>>that the arrogance has been coming from those most vociferously critical
>>of the decision to remove lilo.  You can have your objections to it, but
>>I find it quite disturbing that ANYONE could support calling the
>>developers "morons" and "tards" as somehow justified, despite attempts
>>by those doing the insulting to engage in not-so-clever sophistry in the
>>service of that false justification.
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>I have only been following this thread sporadically,
>and wasn't aware that anyone had used those terms.
>I would certainly dissociate myself completely from any talk like that. 
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>I've actually found the developers I have communicated with
>very willing to help - but of course I did not start by calling them morons!
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>I was probably wrong to use the word "arrogant" -
>but I was dissapointed that there seemed to be no response
>from the developers to the fairly numerous calls for LILO to be available
>as a choice when installing Fedora.
>I assume it is still a choice when compiling and installing a kernel -
>I mean LILO will be updated if one is using that.
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>>>Incidentally, the interactive option in grub, which you praise,
>>>could be greatly improved;
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>>  Possibly, but keep in mind that this has to fit in a pretty small
>>amount of memory, if I'm not mistaken.  There's only so much that can be
>>added due to space constraints.  At least grub HAS a command line.
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>As I said, I use grub all the time, and have been saved more than once
>by the grub command line option.
>(In my experience grub is likely to get confused
>if one has IDE and SCSI disks.)
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>I guess the real weakness of grub is its lack of good documentatiion -
>LILO certainly wins hands down on that score.
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What I can't undestand if someone wants lilo why not download and 
install it and quit complaining.