FC4t2 no good without LILO

[Jesse Keating]

On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 17:24 -0600, Guy Fraser wrote:
> I have only worked with a few, but non had an option to disable 
> RAID. In the manual they had ways to use drives as though they 
> weren't using RAID.

Guess your few are the exception.  I've worked with 30 or so different
boards from just about all board makers (public and non-public) and most
have the RAID vs NORAID option.

> Example. 
> Setup one logical volume using the full size of only one drive.
> 
> Is that what you, you mean?

No, as it is still loading a RAID bios rather than just the disk itself.

>  That is how ASUS boards with Promise 
> controllers work. ASUS boards and Promise controllers are both 
> very much mainstream.

And Promise has been the source of a lot of problems with Linux.  Bad
juju.  Of course, our Asus Promise boards have the ability to not be in
RAID, maybe we're just lucky?

> > 
> > > And older machines never had SATA.
> > > 
> > > Make up your frickin minds.
> > 
> > By SATA addon cards I'm talking about SATA PCI cards, not a chip on
> the
> > motherboard.
> 
> I know, why would you consider there use to be non standard.
> 
> I know lots of people have more than two drives, and the SATA on 
> most motherboards only support two drives.

Know lots of people != mainstream.  Mainstream is the majority of users
who have maybe a single drive.  Mainstream are people who aren't ripping
apart their system at random to add drives and such in random
configurations.  Mainstream works.

> > 
> > > > > Maybe the reason the developers can't find any problems is 
> > > > > they are not adding any additional controller cards.
> > > > 
> > > > That is quite possible.  You are correct in that most SATA cards
> > > lack
> > > > the ability to disable loading a BIOS.  SATA cards loading a
> BIOS
> > > > overrides at times what is set in the motherboard BIOS for boot
> > > order.
> > > 
> > > I would have never guessed.
> > > 
> > > What do you think people have been complaining about?
> > 
> > Again, I'm speaking of SATA PCI cards, not the onboard SATA chips of
> > today's motherboards.  SATA PCI cards for the most part have been
> POS
> > things that only cause problems, regardless of boot loaders.
> 
> Maybe in your universe, we have been using them in FreeBSD 
> servers for over a year and haven't had any problems. I have 
> been using mine with Fedora for over a year and the only 
> problems I've had were with GRUB.

This conversation has been about Linux, not FreeBSD.

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