[Bug 154763] Grub is inadequate without Lilo for backup

[Rodd Clarkson]

On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 19:01 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> > Why should Lilo be available or not available during Fedora and RHEL
> > installation?

This of course is the big question.  Why should lilo be avaiable in FC?

> I have no need for LILO.  Grub has always worked fine for me.  It is also 
> designed better.

I prefer Grub to lilo and it's been fine AFAICS.

> If you have specific issues with Grub, then spell it out.  Vague handwaving 
> about some unspecified problems with Grub, or whatnot, and nebulous 
> references to its reliability is not going to impress anyone.

Which is really why this thread has gone on altogther too long. (Why am
I still reading it?  Why am I having to download this cruft?  Why is it
consuming space on my HDD?)

Mike, it's time to pony up some facts, instead of vague insinuations
about why lilo is better than grub.

I'm sure you would be offended if I stated that Mike Bird's comments on
the list weren't worth reading and everytime someone asked me to give a
concrete example why I said something vague about your comments not
really being up to snuff rather than point to some specific comment(s)
you made that wasn't helpful.

Sadly, that's really the gist of what your doing in regard to you
grievences about the removal of lilo from FC.  You claim that grub isn't
up to snuff, but can't actually put you finger on something specific.
Even when it looks like you're getting close, you're commenting in the
wrong place.  Don't tell the list (or at least don't just tell the list)
put the comments into bugzilla.  And don't just claim lilo is better
than grub.  Make some specific allegations about grubs short comings.
Say grub can't do 'some specific" and ponder whether lilo could be
included in FC to address "this specific" short-coming of grub.  Things
like grub can't boot this type of system (but lilo can).  Or grub lacks
documentation on how to do "something specific" (but lilo has good
documentation on this).

Of course, in all this, keep your mind open.  You might find that by
pointing out a specific, definable short coming of grub the developers
may choose to get grub up-to-snuff rather than include lilo.


Rodd

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