From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Sun May 1 00:02:04 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:02:04 -0300 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Em S?b, 2005-04-30 ?s 16:20 -0700, Michael A. Peters escreveu: > Rather than port what they have to GStreamer, maybe it would be better > to start fresh and hook into totem - kind of like the totem mozilla > plugin is doing (anyone tried that recently??) As far as I can recall, totem for mozilla depends on xine, isn't it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken at geekystuff.net Sun May 1 03:56:55 2005 From: ken at geekystuff.net (Ken Nordquist) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:56:55 -0400 Subject: Boot halts at rdisk Message-ID: <42745387.2080609@geekystuff.net> Hey Guys, My boot froze when it hit rdisk. Fortunately, Mr. Spaleta gave me a troubleshooting hint (because I really was not sure what was causing the boot freeze) and I traced it to rdisk. After removing it from the boot sequence, all seems to be swell. My arch is x86_64 and I had no troubles with the 1276 kernel (I uploaded it the previous day) but I did have troubles after installing today's rawhide (20050430). Thanks for the tip Jef. Regards, Ken Nordquist "Did I Do That?" From wnh200405 at xphuang.com Sun May 1 10:08:07 2005 From: wnh200405 at xphuang.com (Wilbur Harvey) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 00:08:07 -1000 Subject: Good news for x86_64 systems In-Reply-To: <427353EB.2050006@libero.it> References: <200504290918.51393.czar@czarc.net> <42724999.2010101@geekystuff.net> <4272F0A5.3090802@xphuang.com> <427353EB.2050006@libero.it> Message-ID: <4274AA87.1000107@xphuang.com> No, the only problems I have are that DNS can't see the system, but I assume I am doing something wrong there. The first ethernet works fine, the second Marvell chips is only seen by lspci, nothing else sees it at all. Wilbur Cimmo wrote: > Wilbur Harvey ha scritto: > >> I installed the 1276_64 kernel. >> Open Office works. >> VMware, using vmware-any-any-90 compiles, but hangs when trying to >> open a virtua machine >> Sometimes a hang when accessing cifs shares (linux also sees old >> copies of files from a 2003 server share) >> Second marvell pci-express GigE controller on NForce4 Ultra Giabyte >> MB still doesn't work. >> Wilbur > > > > Have you got the nforce4? Have you experienced issues like me? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=152566 > > bye > Cimmo > From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun May 1 10:07:24 2005 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:07:24 +0200 Subject: log errors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050501120724.3c2fd593.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:58:13 -0400 (EDT), Tom Diehl wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a dell inspiron 2650 with rawhide on it. For the most part it is running > flawlessly, however I keep seeing the following messages in the logs: > > Apr 28 21:36:55 bullwinkle pam_timestamp_check: pam_timestamp: `/' owner UID != 0 > Could be a dumb question, but did you verify whether PAM is right about what it reports? > Apr 28 21:51:56 bullwinkle kernel: codec_semaphore: semaphore is not ready [0x1][0x300300] > Apr 28 21:51:56 bullwinkle kernel: codec_read 0: semaphore is not ready for register 0x2c > Apr 28 21:52:00 bullwinkle pam_timestamp_check: pam_timestamp: `/' owner UID != 0 > Apr 28 21:52:30 bullwinkle last message repeated 6 times > > Any idea what is causing the pam_timestamp or the codec_semaphore messages or > how to fix them? From fedora at nodata.co.uk Sun May 1 10:30:05 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:30:05 +0200 Subject: NFS lockup error In-Reply-To: <006b01c54daf$7e36bfe0$74103140@jerim> References: <006b01c54daf$7e36bfe0$74103140@jerim> Message-ID: <1114943405.2929.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 13:07 -0500, William wrote: > After running the updates from Friday around 3pm, I seem to be > crashing on bootup. Everything looks fine until it gets to clvmd. It > fails to load, which is no big deal but then it goes to a black > screen. It stays on this black screen for a minute or two and then I > hit CTRL-ALT-Delete. It will bring me back to the Services screen and > says "NFS lockup: [Failed]." It then sits there for about 30 > seconds and goes back to the black screen. I give it a few minuts and > then hit CTRL-ALT-Delete again and it doesn't do anything. I have to > manually shut down the computer. I have tried previous kernels. > > I can log into WinXP fine, so I guessing it isn't a hardware failure, > which was my first thought. > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list I had this. Strangely, booting all services as usual, but in Interactive mode worked. From generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp Sun May 1 10:52:19 2005 From: generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp (Namikawa, Shozo) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 19:52:19 +0900 Subject: NFS lockup error In-Reply-To: <1114943405.2929.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <006b01c54daf$7e36bfe0$74103140@jerim> <1114943405.2929.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4274B4E3.2040008@olive.ocn.ne.jp> nodata wrote: >On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 13:07 -0500, William wrote: > > >>After running the updates from Friday around 3pm, I seem to be >>crashing on bootup. Everything looks fine until it gets to clvmd. It >>fails to load, which is no big deal but then it goes to a black >>screen. It stays on this black screen for a minute or two and then I >>hit CTRL-ALT-Delete. It will bring me back to the Services screen and >>says "NFS lockup: [Failed]." It then sits there for about 30 >>seconds and goes back to the black screen. I give it a few minuts and >>then hit CTRL-ALT-Delete again and it doesn't do anything. I have to >>manually shut down the computer. I have tried previous kernels. >> >>I can log into WinXP fine, so I guessing it isn't a hardware failure, >>which was my first thought. >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> >> > >I had this. Strangely, booting all services as usual, but in Interactive >mode worked. > > > After happend "Stopping NFS locked" April end up2date, I set runlevel of GRUB from 5 to 1 and start single user mode. (ESC at GRUB menu, e(dit) and B(oot).) Stopping following services by command practically, confirm services, #chkconfig --list and repeat, #chkconfig --runlevel 356 mDNSResponder off #chkconfig --runlevel 356 netfs off #chkconfig --runlevel 356 nfslock off #chkconfig --runlevel 356 nifd off #chkconfig --runlevel 356 rdisc off #chkconfig --runlevel 356 ccsd off #chkconfig --runlevel 356 clvmd off #chkconfig --runlevel 356 fenced off #chkconfig --runlevel 356 smartd off From generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp Sun May 1 11:00:14 2005 From: generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp (Namikawa, Shozo) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:00:14 +0900 Subject: NFS lockup error In-Reply-To: <4274B4E3.2040008@olive.ocn.ne.jp> References: <006b01c54daf$7e36bfe0$74103140@jerim> <1114943405.2929.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4274B4E3.2040008@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Message-ID: <4274B6BE.1090306@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Namikawa, Shozo wrote: > nodata wrote: > >> On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 13:07 -0500, William wrote: >> >> >>> After running the updates from Friday around 3pm, I seem to be >>> crashing on bootup. Everything looks fine until it gets to clvmd. It >>> fails to load, which is no big deal but then it goes to a black >>> screen. It stays on this black screen for a minute or two and then I >>> hit CTRL-ALT-Delete. It will bring me back to the Services screen and >>> says "NFS lockup: [Failed]." It then sits there for about 30 >>> seconds and goes back to the black screen. I give it a few minuts and >>> then hit CTRL-ALT-Delete again and it doesn't do anything. I have to >>> manually shut down the computer. I have tried previous kernels. >>> I can log into WinXP fine, so I guessing it isn't a hardware failure, >>> which was my first thought. >>> -- >>> fedora-test-list mailing list >>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>> To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >>> >> >> >> I had this. Strangely, booting all services as usual, but in Interactive >> mode worked. >> >> >> > After happend "Stopping NFS locked" April end up2date, I set runlevel > of GRUB from 5 to 1 and start single user mode. > (ESC at GRUB menu, e(dit) and B(oot).) > Stopping following services by command practically, > confirm services, > #chkconfig --list > and repeat, > #chkconfig --runlevel 356 mDNSResponder off > #chkconfig --runlevel 356 netfs off > #chkconfig --runlevel 356 nfslock off #chkconfig > --runlevel 356 nifd off > #chkconfig --runlevel 356 rdisc off > #chkconfig --runlevel 356 ccsd off > #chkconfig --runlevel 356 clvmd off > #chkconfig --runlevel 356 fenced off > #chkconfig --runlevel 356 smartd off > > There are some error in my text. please collect to follow. (collect --runlevel to --level) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After happend "Stopping NFS locked" April end up2date, I set runlevel of GRUB from 5 to 1 and start single user mode. (ESC at GRUB menu, e(dit) and b(oot).) Stopping following services by command practically, confirm services, #chkconfig --list and repeat, #chkconfig --level 356 mDNSResponder off #chkconfig --level 356 netfs off #chkconfig --level 356 nfslock off #chkconfig --level 356 nifd off #chkconfig --level 356 rdisc off #chkconfig --level 356 ccsd off #chkconfig --level 356 clvmd off #chkconfig --level 356 fenced off #chkconfig --level 356 smartd off --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp Sun May 1 11:09:29 2005 From: generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp (Namikawa, Shozo) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:09:29 +0900 Subject: NFS lockup error In-Reply-To: <4274B6BE.1090306@olive.ocn.ne.jp> References: <006b01c54daf$7e36bfe0$74103140@jerim> <1114943405.2929.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4274B4E3.2040008@olive.ocn.ne.jp> <4274B6BE.1090306@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Message-ID: <4274B8E9.2020500@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Namikawa, Shozo wrote: > Namikawa, Shozo wrote: > >> nodata wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 13:07 -0500, William wrote: >>> >>> >>>> After running the updates from Friday around 3pm, I seem to be >>>> crashing on bootup. Everything looks fine until it gets to clvmd. It >>>> fails to load, which is no big deal but then it goes to a black >>>> screen. It stays on this black screen for a minute or two and then I >>>> hit CTRL-ALT-Delete. It will bring me back to the Services screen and >>>> says "NFS lockup: [Failed]." It then sits there for about 30 >>>> seconds and goes back to the black screen. I give it a few minuts and >>>> then hit CTRL-ALT-Delete again and it doesn't do anything. I have to >>>> manually shut down the computer. I have tried previous kernels. >>>> I can log into WinXP fine, so I guessing it isn't a hardware failure, >>>> which was my first thought. >>>> -- >>>> fedora-test-list mailing list >>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I had this. Strangely, booting all services as usual, but in >>> Interactive >>> mode worked. >>> >>> >>> >> After happend "Stopping NFS locked" April end up2date, I set runlevel >> of GRUB from 5 to 1 and start single user mode. >> (ESC at GRUB menu, e(dit) and B(oot).) >> Stopping following services by command practically, >> confirm services, >> #chkconfig --list >> and repeat, >> #chkconfig --runlevel 356 mDNSResponder off >> #chkconfig --runlevel 356 netfs off >> #chkconfig --runlevel 356 nfslock off #chkconfig >> --runlevel 356 nifd off >> #chkconfig --runlevel 356 rdisc off >> #chkconfig --runlevel 356 ccsd off >> #chkconfig --runlevel 356 clvmd off >> #chkconfig --runlevel 356 fenced off >> #chkconfig --runlevel 356 smartd off >> >> > There are some error in my text. please collect to follow. > (collect --runlevel to --level) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > After happend "Stopping NFS locked" April end up2date, I set runlevel > of GRUB from 5 to 1 and start single user mode. > (ESC at GRUB menu, e(dit) and b(oot).) > Stopping following services by command practically, > confirm services, > #chkconfig --list > and repeat, > #chkconfig --level 356 mDNSResponder off > #chkconfig --level 356 netfs off > #chkconfig --level 356 nfslock off > #chkconfig --level 356 nifd off > #chkconfig --level 356 rdisc off > #chkconfig --level 356 ccsd off > #chkconfig --level 356 clvmd off > #chkconfig --level 356 fenced off > #chkconfig --level 356 smartd off > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Missing runlevel of sevices 345 to 356. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ After happend "Stopping NFS locked" April end up2date, I set runlevel of GRUB from 5 to 1 and start single user mode. (ESC at GRUB menu, e(dit) and b(oot).) Stopping following services by command practically, confirm services, #chkconfig --list and repeat, #chkconfig --level 345 mDNSResponder off #chkconfig --level 345 netfs off #chkconfig --level 345 nfslock off #chkconfig --level 345 nifd off #chkconfig --level 345 rdisc off #chkconfig --level 345 ccsd off #chkconfig --level 345 clvmd off #chkconfig --level 345 fenced off #chkconfig --level 345 smartd off ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From hubes at spray.se Sun May 1 11:25:48 2005 From: hubes at spray.se (hubes hubes) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:25:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: FC4 T2 installation hungs at boot option screen Message-ID: 17021942734765@lycos-europe.com ? Many thanks, I'll check it out. /hubes > Fr?n: Oliver Kahl > Till: For testers of Fedora Core develop ment releases > Rubrik: Re: FC4 T2 install ation hungs at boot option screen > Datum: Sun, 01 May 2005 01:56:13 +02 00 > similar problem where discused days before. > Take a look here i n the fedora-test-list from april, > it?s a post from 22/23.04.2005: > > Re: CD boot problem with FC4test1 AND test2 > > I think it could h elp you! > > Oliver > > > > > hubes hubes schrieb: > > hi, > > > > > > > > I've tried to install FC4 T2 on my old Dell CPi (p 2 300). > > > > However I don?t manage to get very fare, before the fi rst user input the > > installation hungs. > > > > I don?t even get t o see the "boot:" nor can I type ? inux text? or > > ?linux askmethod? o r any other boot options. > > > > > > > > Any id?e?s on how I can resolve this, or even debug. > > > > > > > > I have successfully installed FC3 over net install (ftp). > > > > > > > > Many thank s > > > > > > > > > > www.spray.se/kopsalj <>http://www.spray.se/kopsalj/>- g?r dagens > > sup eraff?r! V?lj bland 82 723 annonser. > > > > > -- > fedora-test- list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > < a href=http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list>http://www redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list 10 Gigabyte Mailbox - http://mail.spray.se/?targetcode=se_footer From rodd at clarkson.id.au Sun May 1 12:06:32 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:06:32 +1000 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Message-ID: <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 21:02 -0300, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em S?b, 2005-04-30 ?s 16:20 -0700, Michael A. Peters escreveu: > > > Rather than port what they have to GStreamer, maybe it would be better > > to start fresh and hook into totem - kind of like the totem mozilla > > plugin is doing (anyone tried that recently??) > > As far as I can recall, totem for mozilla depends on xine, isn't it? Totem can use xine as it's backend, but it also can use gstreamer. It's a compile time option and while totem used to default to xine in the past, the current versions are set up to use gstreamer (including the versions of totem in FC4 and GNOME-2.10) since gstreamer has grown up enough to be a viable backend. Rodd From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 1 12:13:42 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 14:13:42 +0200 Subject: OT: nvidia drivers ppc, ppc64 Message-ID: <4274C7F6.1000408@gmx.de> hi, in the past i had no real need for the nvidia drivers for x86, x86_64 or ia64 i was satisfied with "nv" on my nforce1-board since rhl9, thanks mike harris and nividia ;-) now i need the "nvidia" drivers for ppc and in the near future for ppc64. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html no luck :-( http://www.apple.com/powerbook/specs.html NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 http://www.apple.com/powermac/specs.html NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra where/how can i get/compile these drivers if they are not (yet) provided by nvidia or is it possible to enhance "nv" for 3D-support and twinview ? from time to time i will demand via linux-bugs at nvidia.com -- shrek-m From arjanv at redhat.com Sun May 1 12:33:25 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 08:33:25 -0400 Subject: OT: nvidia drivers ppc, ppc64 In-Reply-To: <4274C7F6.1000408@gmx.de> References: <4274C7F6.1000408@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1114950805.6577.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 14:13 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > hi, > > in the past i had no real need for the nvidia drivers for x86, x86_64 or > ia64 > i was satisfied with "nv" on my nforce1-board since rhl9, thanks mike > harris and nividia ;-) > > now i need the "nvidia" drivers for ppc and in the near future for ppc64. > http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html > no luck :-( that's one of the reasons binary modules suck; you can only get them for a limited set of kernels and architectures... > where/how can i get/compile these drivers if they are not (yet) provided > by nvidia you're joking right? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 1 12:42:04 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 14:42:04 +0200 Subject: Using display from server via ssh In-Reply-To: <1114950711.2803.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1114950711.2803.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <4274CE9C.2060400@gmx.de> Mike Chambers wrote: >While ssh'ing into my server, it has minimal graphic packages installed, >and I would like to be able to use some of those and have it show on my >workstation, like system-config-namehere. > >In other words, ssh into the server, run system-config-nfs and have it >show graphically onto my workstation. Do I just need to set a display >environment or something to get that to work? > not really. gnome-terminal_loacl$ ssh -Y user at your_server remote$ system-config-bla -- shrek-m From mike at netlyncs.com Sun May 1 12:50:57 2005 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 07:50:57 -0500 Subject: Using display from server via ssh In-Reply-To: <4274CE9C.2060400@gmx.de> References: <1114950711.2803.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <4274CE9C.2060400@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1114951857.2884.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 14:42 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > not really. > > gnome-terminal_loacl$ ssh -Y user at your_server > remote$ system-config-bla Thanks, that did the trick! -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "I didn't lose my mind...I sold it on eBay!" From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun May 1 12:56:02 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:56:02 +0100 Subject: USB messed up? Message-ID: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> Hi, I have two types of USB card reader. One is an internal 7 in 1 job and the other is an external 8 in 1 (on the laptop). Both are recognised by hal when I run hal-device-manager, yet neither will read any cards I put into them. I'm using kernel 2.6.11-1.1275_FC4 on both machines with hal 0.5.1-1. Do I need to report this as a kernel or hal bug into bugzilla? USB printing is fine. TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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NVIDIA distributes the source code to this kernel interface layer, as well as a precompiled version for many of the kernels distributed by some popular distributions. When the installer is run, it will determine if it has a precompiled kernel interface for the kernel you are running. If it does not have one, it will check if there is one on the NVIDIA ftp site (assuming you have an internet connection), and download it. If a precompiled kernel interface is found that matches your kernel, then that will be linked[1] against the binary portion of the NVIDIA kernel module. The result of this operation will be a kernel module appropriate for your kernel. If no matching precompiled kernel interface is found, then the installer will compile the kernel interface for you. However, first it will check that you have the correct kernel headers intalled on your system. If the installer must compile the kernel interface, then you must install the kernel-sources package for your kernel. [...] ----/---- or ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7174/README.txt -- shrek-m From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Sun May 1 15:03:18 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:03:18 +0200 Subject: Downloading files > 4GB not possible? Message-ID: <1114959799.3565.41.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Hi all, Similar to FC3 I am still unable to download files that are larger than 4GB from an Apache 2.0.52 server with large file support running on FreeBSD. Neither wget, curl or lynx work. I'm using FC4T2 updated (kernel 1276) and plain ext3 filesystems. A FreeBSD 4.x box as client had no problem downloading a 9GB file. No idea about other distro's as I don't have those. Anyone have a clue how to solve this? TIA, Patrick From mike at netlyncs.com Sun May 1 15:24:48 2005 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:24:48 -0500 Subject: authd and ident Message-ID: <1114961088.2884.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Ok, I was told (I Think on IRC) before of how to get authd working to help with ident on IRC. I think there was an option or something on it (or a file it uses) to remove to help (mainly if it was working without doing this, the IRC username@ was scrambled). I can't even get authd to work, much less doing the scrambling part. Any ideas? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "I didn't lose my mind...I sold it on eBay!" From buildsys at redhat.com Sun May 1 15:37:54 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:37:54 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050501 changes Message-ID: <200505011537.j41FbsIm014483@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: From david at fubar.dk Sun May 1 15:49:50 2005 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 11:49:50 -0400 Subject: USB messed up? In-Reply-To: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> References: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1114962590.3679.0.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 13:56 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I have two types of USB card reader. One is an internal 7 in 1 job and > the other is an external 8 in 1 (on the laptop). Both are recognised by > hal when I run hal-device-manager, yet neither will read any cards I put > into them. > > I'm using kernel 2.6.11-1.1275_FC4 on both machines with hal 0.5.1-1. > > Do I need to report this as a kernel or hal bug into bugzilla? > It's most probably this one https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156167 David From dsavage at peaknet.net Sun May 1 16:06:45 2005 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 11:06:45 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20050501 changes In-Reply-To: <200505011537.j41FbsIm014483@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505011537.j41FbsIm014483@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1114963605.5068.36.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 11:37 -0400, Build System wrote: > > > Updated Packages: > > I guess it's official. Y'all take the rest of the day off. :-) -- Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From arjanv at redhat.com Sun May 1 16:15:14 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:15:14 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050501 changes In-Reply-To: <1114963605.5068.36.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <200505011537.j41FbsIm014483@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1114963605.5068.36.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <1114964115.6577.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 11:06 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 11:37 -0400, Build System wrote: > > > > > > Updated Packages: > > > > > > I guess it's official. Y'all take the rest of the day off. :-) some buildmachines broke down and there is a HUGE queue ;) so once that's resolved there'll probably be a big wave of new stuff -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun May 1 17:11:51 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:11:51 -0400 Subject: Boot halts at rdisk In-Reply-To: <42745387.2080609@geekystuff.net> References: <42745387.2080609@geekystuff.net> Message-ID: <604aa791050501101172503c0e@mail.gmail.com> On 4/30/05, Ken Nordquist wrote: > Thanks for the tip Jef. I think there is a deeper problem going on with the initscript process that is not the fault of one particular script. I think there might be a general problem when any script ends in a failure. I'm still poking at it. -jef From mpeters at mac.com Sun May 1 18:00:38 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 11:00:38 -0700 Subject: Crappy fonts In-Reply-To: <1114637704.3380.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <426FC7FC.1020502@earthlink.net> <1114637704.3380.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1114970438.4159.25.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 23:35 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > My fonts are just fine - every bit as good as FC3. I have not changed lang. > > > > I tested konsole (not kconsole) and they look fine there. > > > > Gerry > > Could it be some kind of antialias he has turned on for fc3 but not fc4? > My fonts changed after installing sun java 1.5 (using jPackage) - and they are uglified, I'm not sure what caused it. On my laptop the same thing did NOT happen when installing the jpackage Sun Java rpm's - so I don't know what to think. But one day, they were the same defaults as what I have on FC3, I install Java, and then they are weird. I wonder if the font cache got screwed up or something. From tjikkun at xs4all.nl Sun May 1 18:20:25 2005 From: tjikkun at xs4all.nl (Sander Hoentjen) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:20:25 +0200 Subject: NetworkManager doesn't see eth0 Message-ID: <1114971625.3548.12.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> Hi, I recently did a install from rawhide which went pretty smooth considering it could have eaten all kinds of stuff such as babies. Now I kept up2date and I am current with latest rawhide, and I installed a wireless PCI card so I decided to turn on NetworkManager. It works in the way that it connects me to a wireless network, but it does so even when connected to a wired lan. It will not connect me to that wired LAN even when there is no wireless network available. Is this a know problem? Can I do anything about it? Does it need to go into bugzilla? some maybe relevant output: $ /sbin/lspci ... 00:10.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) ... $ /sbin/lshal ... udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_52_54_05_fd_b1_9e' info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_52_54_05_fd_b1_9e' (string) linux.subsystem = 'net' (string) linux.hotplug_type = 2 (0x2) (int) net.80203.mac_address = 90520831242654 (0x525405fdb19e) (uint64) info.product = 'Networking Interface' (string) net.interface_up = true (bool) net.arp_proto_hw_id = 1 (0x1) (int) net.linux.ifindex = 2 (0x2) (int) net.address = '52:54:05:fd:b1:9e' (string) net.interface = 'eth0' (string) net.physical_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10ec_8029' (string) info.capabilities = {'net', 'net.80203'} (string list) info.category = 'net.80203' (string) info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10ec_8029' (string) linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/class/net/eth0' (string) udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10ec_8029' info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10ec_8029' (string) linux.subsystem = 'pci' (string) linux.hotplug_type = 1 (0x1) (int) pci.subsys_product = 'Unknown (0x0000)' (string) pci.subsys_vendor = 'Unknown (0x0000)' (string) info.product = 'RTL-8029(AS)' (string) pci.product = 'RTL-8029(AS)' (string) info.vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' (string) pci.vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' (string) pci.device_protocol = 0 (0x0) (int) pci.device_subclass = 0 (0x0) (int) pci.device_class = 2 (0x2) (int) pci.subsys_vendor_id = 0 (0x0) (int) pci.subsys_product_id = 0 (0x0) (int) pci.vendor_id = 4332 (0x10ec) (int) pci.product_id = 32809 (0x8029) (int) info.linux.driver = 'ne2k-pci' (string) pci.linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0' (string) info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer' (string) info.bus = 'pci' (string) linux.sysfs_path_device = '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0' (string) linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0' (string) ... Sander From bruno at wolff.to Sun May 1 19:41:05 2005 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 14:41:05 -0500 Subject: authd and ident In-Reply-To: <1114961088.2884.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1114961088.2884.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <20050501194105.GA27058@wolff.to> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:24:48 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > Ok, I was told (I Think on IRC) before of how to get authd working to > help with ident on IRC. I think there was an option or something on it > (or a file it uses) to remove to help (mainly if it was working without > doing this, the IRC username@ was scrambled). I can't even get authd to > work, much less doing the scrambling part. There is a version of ident that returns whatever string you want. Unless you have multiple people using your box, you probably want to use that tool instead. It is simpler and is less likely to have security vulnerabilites. Are IRC servers still requiring ident? That is pretty lame these days. It made sense once upon a time to provide a way to ban individual users on a timeshare system a number of years ago. These days almost no one is going to be doing that. From mpeters at mac.com Sun May 1 19:35:52 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:35:52 -0700 Subject: Apache Log, passwd, "known hacks" Message-ID: <1114976153.3109.16.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Have a server on my lan running as a yum mirror for my lan, running rawhide. Other than the kernel, it gets updated pretty much daily. Saw this in the log: --------------------- httpd Begin ------------------------ 1663.90 MB transfered in 1894 responses (1xx 0, 2xx 1852, 3xx 0, 4xx 42, 5xx 0) 322 Documents (3.81 MB), 1534 Archives (1449.43 MB), 12 Content pages (0.00 MB), 2 Program source files (0.00 MB), 10 CD Images (144.50 MB), 14 Other (66.15 MB) Attempts to use 1 known hacks were logged 4 time(s) passwd by 192.168.15.101 4 time(s) A total of 1 sites probed the server 192.168.15.101 !!!! 2 possible successful probes /pub/yum/fedora/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/pam_passwdqc-0.7.6-1.i386.rpm HTTP Response 200 /pub/yum/fedora/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/passwd-0.69-2.i386.rpm HTTP Response 200 A total of 7 unidentified 'other' records logged *snip* The server is behind a router firewall. I do have a couple ports forwarded to it - for bittorrent (tcp) and for ntpd (udp - this is also my lan time server) - not ports apache uses. 192.168.15.101 is my wireless router (not the router the server is behind, the wireless does strictly my wireless clients) - what exactly is the "known hack" it is referring to? I certainly haven't tried to hack it, I suspect that that is a bogus entry, but I do want to make sure someone isn't connecting through my wireless router and trying stuff. The "possible succesful probes" are clearly yum updates that happened to contain the word "passwd" in the filename. Is that something that should be filed as a false positive bug? A password containing file would not have the mime type application/x-rpm From mattdm at mattdm.org Sun May 1 19:45:23 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 15:45:23 -0400 Subject: Apache Log, passwd, "known hacks" In-Reply-To: <1114976153.3109.16.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1114976153.3109.16.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <20050501194523.GA5940@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 12:35:52PM -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > Is that something that should be filed as a false positive bug? > A password containing file would not have the mime type > application/x-rpm Yeah, please file this. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 76 degrees Fahrenheit. From kernel at start.no Sun May 1 19:52:30 2005 From: kernel at start.no (Christopher) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:52:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Need help to install a kernel rpm with RescueCD (FC4T2) In-Reply-To: References: <1114771131.42720ebb3e095@epost.start.no> Message-ID: <1114977150.4275337e8d85d@epost.start.no> > Did it complain that it requires a newer version of initscripts, or > did > it complain that it's completely missing? If it's the former, you > probably just need to upgrade that package first. (Your approach with > the gentoo rescue CD and chroot is correct.) If initscripts is > completely missing, then something much more serious is wrong. I think something went completly wrong with the installation. I have reinstalled and now it works. Strange. /Christopher ------------------------------------------------------------------- F? opp farta! Start.no Bredb?nd. 2 Megabit til kun 379,- per m?ned. Sjekk http://www.start.no/bredband/ mer informasjon! From cnegus at mwt.net Sun May 1 20:19:22 2005 From: cnegus at mwt.net (Chris Negus) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 15:19:22 -0500 Subject: system-logviewer gone, why? In-Reply-To: References: <1112880442.18379.175.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> Message-ID: <1114978762.4641.171.camel@butch> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 16:48 +0200, Lars G wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 20:09 +0200, Lars wrote: > >> anyone can tell why system-logviewer has been dropped from rawhide ? > >> is there any replacement gui (planned) ? > > > > Still in cvs if you need it, but Chris Lumens has planned on re-writing > > it for a while now > > > > http://people.redhat.com/clumens/system-logviewer/ > > > > I guess you might be able to help, fedora-config-list at redhat.com has a > > thread about this as well iirc Is system-logviewer expected to be added back in before FC4 is final? The one in CVS (0.9.14) seems to be working okay (although I haven't beaten on it too much)? It has been nice not having to tell new users that "vi" and "less" are the primary interfaces to FC log files. ;-) -- Chris Negus From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun May 1 20:56:02 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:56:02 +0200 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1114889702.5553.0.camel@jeffy5.jeffsdomain.net> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114889702.5553.0.camel@jeffy5.jeffsdomain.net> Message-ID: <1114980962.3344.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> l?r, 30.04.2005 kl. 21.35 skrev Jeffrey D. Yuille: > On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 15:16 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > First of all: what is this thing? Is it some kind of system to play > > movies in presentations etc? In that case: great! > > > > Then: It claims support for a dozen different media formats, such as: > > AIF audio > > AU audio > > AVI > > CD audio > > MIDI audio > > MPEG Audio > > MPEG Video > > Quictime video > > Vivo video > > WAVE audo > > Is this correct? How does it play contnent? The best would probably be > > gstreamer (adding a gstreamer plugin would then make it work in > > openoffice, totem etc.). > > > > It is found in (writer as example) Tools -> Media Player > > > > Kyrre Ness Sj?b?k > > > Hello, > > Where do you find this OpenOffice Media Player? > > > Jeff Open (example) writer Tools menu Media Player From fedora-test at networklifeline.net Sun May 1 21:10:45 2005 From: fedora-test at networklifeline.net (BC) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 14:10:45 -0700 Subject: boot freezes at sata_sil Message-ID: <20050501211045.30681.qmail@webmail10.mesa1.secureserver.net> Anyone know what is happening ? My boot of FC4 T2 freezes at loading sata_sil driver and I see Disabling IRQ #11. I tried linux acpi=off noapic pci=noapic BC From rpa4email at rogers.com Sun May 1 22:21:31 2005 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 18:21:31 -0400 Subject: artsd hanging. Message-ID: <1114986091.3252.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Hello... With the latest Rawhide update, I am getting serious sound issues. I use KDE and ALSA is failing completely. I get failed to start sound service messages on startup occasionally (but not always) I am also getting failures in KNotify saying that KNotify has crashed trying to start KNotify. I get no sound when trying to test sound with hardware set to Auto Detect, yet I get sound when testing using Threaded Open Sound. I also receive CPU Overloaded - aborting messages and artsd is using 49-50% CPU for both User and System for almost a 100% usage total. Before the latest updates, I never did have Midi support. Now I have Midi support showing up in Sound System which does not work. I have a cheap ES-1370 sound card that has given me no issues before now (with the exception of Midi support.) Is anyone else experiencing these type of issues with the latest update? Better yet, any suggestion for trouble shooting and fixing this issue? :) Robert. From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun May 1 22:24:09 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:24:09 -0400 Subject: USB messed up? In-Reply-To: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> References: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <604aa79105050115245967af80@mail.gmail.com> On 5/1/05, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I have two types of USB card reader. One is an internal 7 in 1 job and > the other is an external 8 in 1 (on the laptop). Both are recognised by > hal when I run hal-device-manager, yet neither will read any cards I put > into them. Do you have selinux in enforcing mode? Are you seeing avc errors related to hal being generated in /var/log/messages when plugging in that external reader or when inserting media into that external reader? There was a recent issue identified with selinux targetted policy that was keeping hal from operating correctly. -jef From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun May 1 23:54:10 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 00:54:10 +0100 Subject: USB messed up? In-Reply-To: <604aa79105050115245967af80@mail.gmail.com> References: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> <604aa79105050115245967af80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1114991650.26440.34.camel@localhost> Hi, > Do you have selinux in enforcing mode? Targetted. Had too many problems in the past with enforcing mode. > Are you seeing avc errors > related to hal being generated in /var/log/messages when plugging in > that external reader or when inserting media into that external > reader? /var/log/messages is showing absolutely nothing on this machine (internal USB card reader) and the external card reader is showing this (snipped a bit) May 2 00:47:12 T8 kernel: usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 May 2 00:47:12 T8 kernel: scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE Rev: 0125 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: SCSI device sda: 246016 512-byte hdwr sectors (126 MB) May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: SCSI device sda: 246016 512-byte hdwr sectors (126 MB) May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE Rev: 0125 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 1 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE Rev: 0125 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: SCSI device sdc: 246016 512-byte hdwr sectors (126 MB) May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: Write Protect is off May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: assuming drive cache: write through May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: SCSI device sdc: 246016 512-byte hdwr sectors (126 MB) May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: Write Protect is off May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: assuming drive cache: write through May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 2 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE Rev: 0125 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 3 May 2 00:47:18 T8 scsi.agent[12366]: disk at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0 May 2 00:47:18 T8 scsi.agent[12369]: disk at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:1 May 2 00:47:18 T8 scsi.agent[12372]: disk at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:2 May 2 00:47:18 T8 scsi.agent[12375]: disk at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:3 May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.933:0): avc: denied { connectto } for pid=12437 exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.938:0): avc: denied { connectto } for pid=12438 exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.944:0): avc: denied { connectto } for pid=12439 exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.949:0): avc: denied { connectto } for pid=12440 exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket May 2 00:47:43 T8 su(pam_unix)[12467]: session opened for user root by paul(uid=500) > There was a recent issue identified with selinux targetted > policy that was keeping hal from operating correctly. Not sure what's going on here, though it does look like it could be the problem with the FC4 blocker on... TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You can remove this need by editing a file (see man ssh). Rodd From jamiebohr at gmail.com Mon May 2 02:05:02 2005 From: jamiebohr at gmail.com (Jamie Bohr) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:05:02 -0600 Subject: artsd hanging. In-Reply-To: <1114986091.3252.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> References: <1114986091.3252.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Message-ID: Robert, I am having the same issues with my system. I installed the alsa* RPM's from FC3 and most every thing was solved. I read somewhere there is a bug in the driver that will cause it to run away like you describe. - Jamie Bohr On 5/1/05, Robert Couture wrote: > > Hello... > > With the latest Rawhide update, I am getting serious sound issues. > > I use KDE and ALSA is failing completely. I get failed to start sound > service messages on startup occasionally (but not always) I am also > getting failures in KNotify saying that KNotify has crashed trying to > start KNotify. > > I get no sound when trying to test sound with hardware set to Auto > Detect, yet I get sound when testing using Threaded Open Sound. > > I also receive CPU Overloaded - aborting messages and artsd is using > 49-50% CPU for both User and System for almost a 100% usage total. > > Before the latest updates, I never did have Midi support. Now I have > Midi support showing up in Sound System which does not work. > > I have a cheap ES-1370 sound card that has given me no issues before now > (with the exception of Midi support.) > > Is anyone else experiencing these type of issues with the latest update? > Better yet, any suggestion for trouble shooting and fixing this > issue? :) > > Robert. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at sapience.com Mon May 2 03:25:37 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:25:37 -0400 Subject: kernel-smp 1276 does not boot Message-ID: <20050502032537.GA4318@sapience.com> All was well up to 1268 - starting with 1275 and 1276 the smp kernel fails to boot - it hangs here: Mounting root filesystem kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystems with ordered data mode Switching to new root. Then it just hangs. No more info Non-smp boots fine as do all versions of smp prior to 1275. Machine is 1 GiB mem, HT 3.6 GHz with SATA disk (intel ICH6R/ICH6RW) - dell precision 370 (intel based). Following is /proc/cpuinfo and lspci -vv. Let me know if there's anything further I can provide to help. g/ ------------------------------------------------------------ # cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 4 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.60GHz stepping : 1 cpu MHz : 3591.578 cache size : 1024 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 3 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmovpat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl tm2 cid cx16 xtpr bogomips : 7127.04 ------------------------------------------------------------ # lspci -vv 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 925X/XE Memory Controller Hub (rev 04) Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 0175 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- Reset- FastB2B- Capabilities: [88] #0d [0000] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Address: 00000000 Data: 0000 Capabilities: [a0] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Device: Supported: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, ExtTag- Device: Latency L0s <64ns, L1 <1us Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported- Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop- Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes Link: Supported Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s, Port 2 Link: Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <4us Link: ASPM Disabled RCB 64 bytes CommClk+ ExtSynch- Link: Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x16 Slot: AtnBtn- PwrCtrl- MRL- AtnInd- PwrInd- HotPlug- Surpise- Slot: Number 7680, PowerLimit 75.000000 Slot: Enabled AtnBtn- PwrFlt- MRL- PresDet- CmdCplt- HPIrq- Slot: AttnInd Off, PwrInd On, Power- Root: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- PME- Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [140] Unknown (5) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- SERR- TAbort- Reset- FastB2B- Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Device: Supported: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, ExtTag+ Device: Latency L0s unlimited, L1 unlimited Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported- Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop- Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes Link: Supported Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s, Port 1 Link: Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <4us Link: ASPM Disabled RCB 64 bytes CommClk+ ExtSynch- Link: Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1 Slot: AtnBtn- PwrCtrl- MRL- AtnInd- PwrInd- HotPlug+ Surpise+ Slot: Number 2, PowerLimit 10.000000 Slot: Enabled AtnBtn- PwrFlt- MRL- PresDet- CmdCplt- HPIrq- Slot: AttnInd Unknown, PwrInd Unknown, Power- Root: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- PME- Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Address: 00000000 Data: 0000 Capabilities: [90] #0d [0000] Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- SERR- TAbort- Reset- FastB2B- Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Device: Supported: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, ExtTag+ Device: Latency L0s unlimited, L1 unlimited Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported- Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop- Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes Link: Supported Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s, Port 2 Link: Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <4us Link: ASPM Disabled RCB 64 bytes CommClk+ ExtSynch- Link: Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1 Slot: AtnBtn- PwrCtrl- MRL- AtnInd- PwrInd- HotPlug+ Surpise+ Slot: Number 3, PowerLimit 10.000000 Slot: Enabled AtnBtn- PwrFlt- MRL- PresDet- CmdCplt- HPIrq- Slot: AttnInd Unknown, PwrInd Unknown, Power- Root: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- PME- Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Address: 00000000 Data: 0000 Capabilities: [90] #0d [0000] Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 0175 Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- Reset- FastB2B- Capabilities: [50] #0d [0000] 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 0175 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- Region 1: I/O ports at Region 2: I/O ports at Region 3: I/O ports at Region 4: I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16] 00:1f.2 Class 0106: Intel Corporation 82801FR/FRW (ICH6R/ICH6RW) SATA Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 01) Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 0175 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> Message-ID: <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> Le dimanche 01 mai 2005 ? 22:06 +1000, Rodd Clarkson a ?crit : > since gstreamer has grown up > enough to be a viable backend. Now that is what I call a subjective opinion... When totem and gstreamer are capable of playing back DVB (live TV and recordings) out of the box I will say they are grown up enough for me. When it knows that I have dvdcss installed and play MPAA crippled DVDs I will say viable. Until that day xine (which also has xxmc mpeg2 acceleration on my machine) will stay player of choice. Cheers Tony From tony at tgds.net Mon May 2 06:02:10 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:02:10 +0200 Subject: after a week Message-ID: <1115013730.3966.16.camel@hush> Hi, I have some lock ups still they seem to be related to Evolution. I have updated Evolution rpms from /developpement to April 25 version. Machine still locks up. I have a core dump in /dev but bug buddy does not know what to do with it. I have tried building a new kernel - FC sources and kernel.org sources stop at fs (different places) when using VIA C3 N options. I have build the kernel which is running now from FC source rpms last week. It has CPU type changed but not much else. Cheers Tony From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 2 06:08:47 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:08:47 +1000 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> Message-ID: <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 07:45 +0200, tony wrote: > Le dimanche 01 mai 2005 ? 22:06 +1000, Rodd Clarkson a ?crit : > > > > since gstreamer has grown up > > enough to be a viable backend. > > Now that is what I call a subjective opinion... > Sure, the world's full of subjective opinions. Of course, I didn't say that gstreamer was perfect, I just said that it had grown up enough to be a viable backend. Given that this is the direction that GNOME, Fedora and it would appear KDE are keen to take in terms of handing media formats it's probably fair to say that you'll have to endure gstreamer while it is 'fixed', or use some none fedora supplied alternative. > When totem and gstreamer are capable of playing back DVB (live TV and > recordings) out of the box I will say they are grown up enough for me. > When it knows that I have dvdcss installed and play MPAA crippled DVDs I > will say viable. I play DVD's (region encoded, dvdcss protected) at the moment and playback is quite good. One of the really nice things about gstreamer is that the media formats are handled using plugins, so Fedora can supply the formats it feels comfortable in using and you can easily add other formats as you need. A good place to look for this is the gstreamer website (http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/) Add the necessary yum repo information and then install those extra bits that gstreamer doesn't come with on fedora. I'm using the FC3 repo on the gstreamer site with FC4T1 (updated to current) and it's working quite well. > Until that day xine (which also has xxmc mpeg2 acceleration on my > machine) will stay player of choice. I don't know how xine compares, but as I understand it adding support for other formats/codecs requires a rebuild in xine which makes it quite awkward for the needs of Fedora, Redhat and other distributions who do not want to supply no-free formats, but who are trying not to make it hard for users to add, by themselves, after the install. Xine certainly had a jump start on gstreamer, but I believe that gstreamer tries to do a little more than xine in terms of functionality. Regardless, with GNOME using is for the media backend and KDE very seriously looking at it (offering the chance at a unified media framework across desktops - a Good Thing (TM) in my opinion*) Fedora would be made to ignore it. Rodd * see the comments regarding opinions at the top of the reply. ;-] From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 2 06:24:04 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:24:04 +1000 Subject: after a week In-Reply-To: <1115013730.3966.16.camel@hush> References: <1115013730.3966.16.camel@hush> Message-ID: <1115015044.3795.50.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> > I have some lock ups still they seem to be related to Evolution. I have > updated Evolution rpms from /developpement to April 25 version. Machine > still locks up. > > I have a core dump in /dev but bug buddy does not know what to do with > it. If you're getting regular lockups then install the evolution-debuginfo package. This will give better feedback for the developers. If bug-buddy isnt' sure where to send the bug report, then save it to file and post in on bugzilla.redhat.com. Rodd From russell at coker.com.au Mon May 2 07:40:24 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:40:24 +1000 Subject: formatting your hard drive for testing In-Reply-To: <1114706288.11644.87.camel@fc4t2.mpeters.local> References: <42705EE2.2080305@gmail.com> <1114706288.11644.87.camel@fc4t2.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <200505021740.28507.russell@coker.com.au> On Friday 29 April 2005 02:38, "Michael A. Peters" wrote: > My personal experience is that neither fail unless there is a hard drive > problem. But I understand reiserfs and selinux don't play nice. What are the fsck options for ReiserFS? Last time I used ReiserFS a --rebuild-tree parameter to fsck could not be used on a read-only mounted file system - which made it quite inconvenient if that was needed on the root file system. Another issue of ReiserFS is that if you use a loopback mounted ReiserFS image on a ReiserFS file system then fsck will really mess things up. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 2 09:04:06 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:04:06 +0200 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 16:08 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: [snip] > I play DVD's (region encoded, dvdcss protected) at the moment and > playback is quite good. One of the really nice things about gstreamer > is that the media formats are handled using plugins, so Fedora can > supply the formats it feels comfortable in using and you can easily add > other formats as you need. > > A good place to look for this is the gstreamer website > (http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/) Add the necessary yum repo > information and then install those extra bits that gstreamer doesn't > come with on fedora. Do I understand you correctly that the lack of certain gstreamer plugins is the reason why Totem on my up2date FC4T2 box won't play any video file (mpg, avi, wmv, mov)? > I'm using the FC3 repo on the gstreamer site with > FC4T1 (updated to current) and it's working quite well. [snip] Exactly which packages did you install from the gstreamer yum repo? I'd love to get this functionality back like I had with FC3 and mplayer. TIA, Patrick From kms at passback.co.uk Mon May 2 09:11:02 2005 From: kms at passback.co.uk (Keith Sharp) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:11:02 +0100 Subject: USB messed up? In-Reply-To: <1114991650.26440.34.camel@localhost> References: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> <604aa79105050115245967af80@mail.gmail.com> <1114991650.26440.34.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115025062.3324.2.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 00:54 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > Do you have selinux in enforcing mode? > > Targetted. Had too many problems in the past with enforcing mode. > > > Are you seeing avc errors > > related to hal being generated in /var/log/messages when plugging in > > that external reader or when inserting media into that external > > reader? > > /var/log/messages is showing absolutely nothing on this machine > (internal USB card reader) and the external card reader is showing this > (snipped a bit) > > May 2 00:47:12 T8 kernel: usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using > ehci_hcd and address 4 > May 2 00:47:12 T8 kernel: scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage > devices > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE > Rev: 0125 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Type: Direct-Access > ANSI SCSI revision: 00 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: SCSI device sda: 246016 512-byte hdwr sectors > (126 MB) > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: SCSI device sda: 246016 512-byte hdwr sectors > (126 MB) > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sda: > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, > channel 0, id 0, lun 0 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE > Rev: 0125 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Type: Direct-Access > ANSI SCSI revision: 00 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi2, > channel 0, id 0, lun 1 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE > Rev: 0125 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Type: Direct-Access > ANSI SCSI revision: 00 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: SCSI device sdc: 246016 512-byte hdwr sectors > (126 MB) > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: Write Protect is off > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: assuming drive cache: write through > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: SCSI device sdc: 246016 512-byte hdwr sectors > (126 MB) > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: Write Protect is off > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: assuming drive cache: write through > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: sdc: > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi2, > channel 0, id 0, lun 2 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE > Rev: 0125 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Type: Direct-Access > ANSI SCSI revision: 00 > May 2 00:47:17 T8 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi2, > channel 0, id 0, lun 3 > May 2 00:47:18 T8 scsi.agent[12366]: disk > at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0 > May 2 00:47:18 T8 scsi.agent[12369]: disk > at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:1 > May 2 00:47:18 T8 scsi.agent[12372]: disk > at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:2 > May 2 00:47:18 T8 scsi.agent[12375]: disk > at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:3 > May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.933:0): avc: denied > { connectto } for pid=12437 > exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket > May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.938:0): avc: denied > { connectto } for pid=12438 > exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket > May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.944:0): avc: denied > { connectto } for pid=12439 > exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket > May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.949:0): avc: denied > { connectto } for pid=12440 > exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket > May 2 00:47:43 T8 su(pam_unix)[12467]: session opened for user root by > paul(uid=500) > > > There was a recent issue identified with selinux targetted > > policy that was keeping hal from operating correctly. > > Not sure what's going on here, though it does look like it could be the > problem with the FC4 blocker on... I was having USB problems as well which I eventually tracked down to HAL failing to start. The reason that HAL was failing was SELinux. I am now running: selinux-policy-targeted-1.23.13-4 hal-0.5.1-1 kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.1226_FC4 and USB seems to be working. Keith. From mefoster at gmail.com Mon May 2 09:28:25 2005 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:28:25 +0100 Subject: ALSA issues: now in bugzilla Message-ID: Unless I couldn't find it, it looked like the ALSA issues discussed on this list over the last few days weren't actually in bugzilla yet. I've added a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156592 I may not have included all the details; anyone else with info should probably add comments. MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From fedora at kjb.dds.nl Mon May 2 11:47:14 2005 From: fedora at kjb.dds.nl (Klaasjan Brand) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:47:14 +0200 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 11:04 +0200, Patrick wrote: > > A good place to look for this is the gstreamer website > > (http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/) Add the necessary yum repo > > information and then install those extra bits that gstreamer doesn't > > come with on fedora. > > Do I understand you correctly that the lack of certain gstreamer plugins > is the reason why Totem on my up2date FC4T2 box won't play any video > file (mpg, avi, wmv, mov)? Totem as shipped by Fedora never included the capability to playback those formats. Maybe you replaced it with a version using Xine as a back-end? > > I'm using the FC3 repo on the gstreamer site with > > FC4T1 (updated to current) and it's working quite well. > [snip] > > Exactly which packages did you install from the gstreamer yum repo? I'd > love to get this functionality back like I had with FC3 and mplayer. You can try the gstreamer-ffmpeg module (not packaged in an easy way afaik) or replace Totem with Totem-xine. (see rpm.livna.org) Klaasjan From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 2 12:15:10 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:15:10 -0400 Subject: USB messed up? In-Reply-To: <1114991650.26440.34.camel@localhost> References: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> <604aa79105050115245967af80@mail.gmail.com> <1114991650.26440.34.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <604aa79105050205151e2e6196@mail.gmail.com> On 5/1/05, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > Do you have selinux in enforcing mode? > > Targetted. Had too many problems in the past with enforcing mode. I think you are confused. Trargetted/Strict can be set to enforcing or permissive. So targetted is enabled but is it set to enforcing or permissive? check /etc/sysconfig/selinux And you are definitely getting selinux related messages about hal. Go back at take a look at your log again... those avc messages, which were similar to what I was seeing. As soon as I put selinux in permissive mode, hal started working again. I'm expecting to see a selinux targetted policy update package to correct the problem. -jef Here is the bit in your log concerning selinux and hal interaction. > May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.938:0): avc: denied > { connectto } for pid=12438 > exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket > May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.944:0): avc: denied > { connectto } for pid=12439 > exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket > May 2 00:47:19 T8 kernel: audit(1114991239.949:0): avc: denied > { connectto } for pid=12440 > exe=/usr/libexec/hald-probe-storagepath=@ /tmp/hald-local/dbus-CBHQFkOJaq scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_t tclass=unix_stream_socket From tony at tgds.net Mon May 2 12:19:48 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:19:48 +0200 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> Message-ID: <1115036388.3057.22.camel@hush> Le lundi 02 mai 2005 ? 13:47 +0200, Klaasjan Brand a ?crit : > Totem on my up2date FC4T2 box won't play any video > > file (mpg, avi, wmv, mov)? > > Totem as shipped by Fedora never included the capability to playback > those formats. Maybe you replaced it with a version using Xine as a > back-end? What does totem actually play? It does not seem capable of playing any media I have available. > You can try the gstreamer-ffmpeg module (not packaged in an easy way > afaik) or replace Totem with Totem-xine. (see rpm.livna.org) I have an even better solution: xine with a xine front end... Everything else comes from livna and dag yum repositories (ffmpeg, dvd..., libfoo...). I use VDR and vdr-xine (budget DVB-S card) so I have to patch xine and compile it anyway: - apply vdr-xine patch by copy pasting instructions from INSTALL - ./autogen.sh - make - make install 10 minutes later (1Ghz VIA) I can watch live TV - DVB button, recorded or time shifted or more live TV - VDR button, DVD etc. ad nauseum. On the other hand we have totem which with gstreamer (last time I tried that it sucked all life from my CPU) plays - nothing! This is tongue in cheek but IMVHO a decent HOWTO get and install something that just works now and today is much more useful to the end user than something that may be taken up by KDE and become the standard in the we don't know when futur. I does put into perspective all the stupid hoops US patents and DCMA and whatever laws makes Redhat have to jump through. And by the way, the totem interface is as ugly as sin. (Just had to get that out of my system) Cheers Tony From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 2 12:23:36 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:23:36 +0200 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> Message-ID: <1115036616.4103.23.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 13:47 +0200, Klaasjan Brand wrote: [snip] > Totem as shipped by Fedora never included the capability to playback > those formats. Maybe you replaced it with a version using Xine as a > back-end? Makes me wonder what it actually can play :) > You can try the gstreamer-ffmpeg module (not packaged in an easy way > afaik) or replace Totem with Totem-xine. (see rpm.livna.org) Will give both a try. Thanks for the tip. Regards, Patrick From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 2 12:41:27 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:41:27 +0100 Subject: OOo problem - help needed! Message-ID: <1115037688.26440.53.camel@localhost> Hi, I've created a presentation using 1.9.96 and it decided to go insane and not allow me to save the presentation in any other format other than swf. It would complain violently that I didn't have enough rights to save an object. The software saved as swf and died. While I do still have a copy as swf, the other versions began to save as (say OOo 1.1.3 format), but then stopped, so the final file size is 0 bytes. Is there any way to import swf back into OOo Impress? TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 2 13:32:34 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:32:34 +0200 Subject: OOo problem - help needed! In-Reply-To: <1115037688.26440.53.camel@localhost> References: <1115037688.26440.53.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115040754.4103.29.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 13:41 +0100, Paul wrote: [snip] > While I do still have a copy as swf, the other versions began to save as > (say OOo 1.1.3 format), but then stopped, so the final file size is 0 > bytes. [snip] I've seen "saving" to 0 bytes too. OOo writer crashed during or after the save of a 1 page nothing fancy writer doc and the result was a doc of 0 bytes. I must add that I have not seen this anymore since updating to the latest available magic (OOo writer version 1.9.96-2). Regards, Patrick From rpa4email at rogers.com Mon May 2 13:52:05 2005 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:52:05 -0400 Subject: artsd hanging. In-Reply-To: References: <1114986091.3252.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Message-ID: <1115041925.4944.7.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 20:05 -0600, Jamie Bohr wrote: > I am having the same issues with my system. I installed the alsa* > RPM's from FC3 and most every thing was solved. I read somewhere > there is a bug in the driver that will cause it to run away like you > describe. Thanks for the confirmation. I was wondering if it was driver or hardware :) Robert. From fedora at kjb.dds.nl Mon May 2 13:50:43 2005 From: fedora at kjb.dds.nl (Klaasjan Brand) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:50:43 +0200 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115036388.3057.22.camel@hush> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> <1115036388.3057.22.camel@hush> Message-ID: <1115041843.6021.20.camel@kj> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:19 +0200, tony wrote: > > Totem as shipped by Fedora never included the capability to playback > > those formats. Maybe you replaced it with a version using Xine as a > > back-end? > > What does totem actually play? It does not seem capable of playing any > media I have available. Totem is just the player front-end and will only play whatever the back- end is able to play. Fedora Totem uses gstreamer which is only able to play unpatented formats, which means no mp3, no mpeg, no divx. It does play ogg audio and maybe ogg theora video. It's also capable of reading from a video4linux source (webcam, tv card). > > You can try the gstreamer-ffmpeg module (not packaged in an easy way > > afaik) or replace Totem with Totem-xine. (see rpm.livna.org) > > I have an even better solution: xine with a xine front end... Everything > else comes from livna and dag yum repositories (ffmpeg, dvd..., > libfoo...). Of course you can use something else. > On the other hand we have totem which with gstreamer (last time I tried > that it sucked all life from my CPU) plays - nothing! But is totally patent-free ;) But really: there's a lot of effort going into gstreamer and it's really working if you have the right codecs. If you want you may even file bugs ;). One of the big advantages a unified media framework gives you is that all a/v applications can use the installed codecs. Which means in the long run less work for you (compiling, installing etc). > This is tongue in cheek but IMVHO a decent HOWTO get and install > something that just works now and today is much more useful to the end > user than something that may be taken up by KDE and become the standard > in the we don't know when futur. I does put into perspective all the > stupid hoops US patents and DCMA and whatever laws makes Redhat have to > jump through. > > And by the way, the totem interface is as ugly as sin. (Just had to get > that out of my system) Ugly as in "uses sane widgets and menu's"? Personally I like it a lot more than the "skinnable" media players; they always seem to have a lot of tiny buttons and waste screen space for graphics. Klaasjan From rpa4email at rogers.com Mon May 2 13:59:59 2005 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:59:59 -0400 Subject: ALSA issues: now in bugzilla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115042399.4944.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 10:28 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > Unless I couldn't find it, it looked like the ALSA issues discussed on > this list over the last few days weren't actually in bugzilla yet. > I've added a bug: Thanks! You beat me to it. :) I was just ensuring that it wasn't just me having the problem. Robert. From mricon at gmail.com Mon May 2 15:34:48 2005 From: mricon at gmail.com (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:34:48 -0400 Subject: system-logviewer gone, why? In-Reply-To: <1114978762.4641.171.camel@butch> References: <1112880442.18379.175.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> <1114978762.4641.171.camel@butch> Message-ID: On 5/1/05, Chris Negus wrote: > Is system-logviewer expected to be added back in before FC4 is final? > The one in CVS (0.9.14) seems to be working okay (although I haven't > beaten on it too much)? It has been nice not having to tell new users > that "vi" and "less" are the primary interfaces to FC log files. ;-) You can also try epylog (in extras). It's not really a "viewer" though. Regards, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev Zlotniks, INC From buildsys at redhat.com Mon May 2 15:42:36 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:42:36 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050502 changes Message-ID: <200505021542.j42FgakN028731@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 2 17:42:00 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:42:00 +0200 Subject: No bugzilla in FC4? Message-ID: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Why is there no bugzilla package in FC4T2? From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 2 17:46:40 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:46:40 -0400 Subject: No bugzilla in FC4? In-Reply-To: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa7910505021046630ed3a6@mail.gmail.com> On 5/2/05, nodata wrote: > Why is there no bugzilla package in FC4T2? there wasn't a bugzilla package in fc3.. nor in fc2.. nor in fc1... nor in rhl9.. nor in.... -jef From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 2 17:48:33 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:48:33 +0200 Subject: No bugzilla in FC4? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910505021046630ed3a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910505021046630ed3a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115056113.2931.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 13:46 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/2/05, nodata wrote: > > Why is there no bugzilla package in FC4T2? > > there wasn't a bugzilla package in fc3.. > nor in fc2.. > nor in fc1... > nor in rhl9.. > nor in.... > > -jef > I realise that, my question was poorly worded. Why is there no bugzilla package for Fedora? From dmalcolm at redhat.com Mon May 2 18:12:21 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:12:21 -0400 Subject: evolution crashes during upgrade? In-Reply-To: <1114785746.12040.5.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1114705366.4724.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114714375.9376.0.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1114785746.12040.5.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1115057542.20722.68.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 16:42 +0200, Patrick wrote: > On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 14:52 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 18:22 +0200, nodata wrote: > > > Is anyone else seeing crashes during or after a yum upgrade, > > > particularly in evolution and in epiphany? > > > > Any more information on these crashes? > > Just had a crash of Evolution after a yum update just now (spamassassin > was upgraded during this run). I don't use Epiphany. Previously the box > was last updated yesterday. Bug buddy complained it had no clue about > Evolution or the "send email" entry so I couldn't report through bug > buddy. But I did copy the info: Looks like an assertion failure in gtk_container_propagate_expose. Can you reliably reproduce the crash? If so, can you run Evolution from a command-line; it should be printing an error there. What version of evolution and of gtk2 do you have installed? > > Backtrace was generated from '/usr/bin/evolution' > > Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1". > [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] > [New Thread -1208551744 (LWP 11478)] > [New Thread -1277170768 (LWP 11931)] > [New Thread -1266680912 (LWP 11759)] > [New Thread -1253975120 (LWP 11492)] > [New Thread -1243485264 (LWP 11491)] > [New Thread -1232299088 (LWP 11486)] > [New Thread -1221805136 (LWP 11483)] > [New Thread -1211315280 (LWP 11482)] > 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > #0 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > #1 0x00a04f0b in __waitpid_nocancel () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > #2 0x06548080 in libgnomeui_module_info_get () > from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 > #3 > #4 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > #5 0x008b812c in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6 > #6 0x008b9888 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 > #7 0x00b202d1 in g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #8 0x00b20305 in g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #9 0x00b20371 in g_assert_warning () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #10 0x0620ba0c in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #11 0x0620ba2d in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #12 0x061d1678 in gtk_box_reorder_child () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #13 0x06209f1a in gtk_container_forall () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #14 0x0620b7a1 in gtk_container_get_focus_hadjustment () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #15 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #16 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #17 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #18 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #19 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #20 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #21 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #22 0x0620b9d6 in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #23 0x0620ba2d in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #24 0x061cdf4b in gtk_bin_get_type () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #25 0x06209f1a in gtk_container_forall () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #26 0x0620b7a1 in gtk_container_get_focus_hadjustment () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #27 0x061d390b in gtk_button_set_relief () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #28 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #29 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #30 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #31 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #32 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #33 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #34 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #35 0x0620b9d6 in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #36 0x0620ba2d in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #37 0x061cdf4b in gtk_bin_get_type () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #38 0x06209f1a in gtk_container_forall () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #39 0x0620b7a1 in gtk_container_get_focus_hadjustment () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #40 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #41 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #42 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #43 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #44 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #45 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #46 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #47 0x0620b9d6 in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #48 0x063268e4 in gtk_toolbar_unset_icon_size () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #49 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #50 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #51 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #52 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #53 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #54 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #55 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #56 0x0620b9d6 in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #57 0x0620ba2d in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #58 0x0012c446 in bonobo_dock_item_get_orientation () > from /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0 > #59 0x06209f1a in gtk_container_forall () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #60 0x0620b7a1 in gtk_container_get_focus_hadjustment () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #61 0x0012bd41 in bonobo_dock_item_get_orientation () > from /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0 > #62 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #63 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #64 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #65 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #66 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #67 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > #68 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #69 0x0628b0cb in gtk_main_do_event () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #70 0x002385ad in gdk_window_clear_area_e () > from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #71 0x00238680 in gdk_window_process_all_updates () > from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #72 0x00238701 in gdk_window_process_all_updates () > from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > #73 0x00b19650 in g_child_watch_add () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #74 0x00b173ee in g_main_context_dispatch () > from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #75 0x00b1a3f6 in g_main_context_check () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #76 0x00b1a6e3 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #77 0x06497625 in bonobo_main () from /usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so.0 > #78 0x0806392f in main (argc=6, argv=0xbfd97114) at main.c:610 > > Thread 8 (Thread -1211315280 (LWP 11482)): > #0 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x00a017a6 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () > from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x066163c7 in e_msgport_wait () > from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #3 0x06616abd in e_thread_busy () from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #4 0x009ffb80 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #5 0x0095a3fe in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6 > No symbol table info available. > > Thread 7 (Thread -1221805136 (LWP 11483)): > #0 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x00a017a6 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () > from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x066163c7 in e_msgport_wait () > from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #3 0x01081931 in sync_op (emss=) at em-sync-stream.c:225 > p = (struct _EMSyncStreamPrivate *) 0x8a6d6d8 > msg = {msg = {ln = {next = 0x85ed5d4, prev = 0x85ed5d0}, > reply_port = 0x837ec38}, op = EMSS_FLUSH, data = 0x0, n = 0} > __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "sync_op" > #4 0x01081b28 in stream_flush (stream=0x86695b8) at > em-sync-stream.c:299 > emss = > Thread 6 (Thread -1232299088 (LWP 11486)): > #0 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x00a017a6 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () > from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x066163c7 in e_msgport_wait () > from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #3 0x06616abd in e_thread_busy () from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #4 0x009ffb80 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #5 0x0095a3fe in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6 > No symbol table info available. > > Thread 5 (Thread -1243485264 (LWP 11491)): > #0 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x00a017a6 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () > from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x066163c7 in e_msgport_wait () > from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #3 0x06616abd in e_thread_busy () from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #4 0x009ffb80 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #5 0x0095a3fe in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6 > No symbol table info available. > Thread 4 (Thread -1253975120 (LWP 11492)): > #0 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x00a017a6 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () > from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x066163c7 in e_msgport_wait () > from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #3 0x06616abd in e_thread_busy () from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #4 0x009ffb80 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #5 0x0095a3fe in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6 > No symbol table info available. > > Thread 3 (Thread -1266680912 (LWP 11759)): > #0 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x009504c3 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x00b1a248 in g_main_context_check () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #3 0x00b1a6e3 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #4 0x003ed3be in link_thread_io_context () > from /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #5 0x00b32e9a in g_static_private_free () > from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #6 0x009ffb80 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #7 0x0095a3fe in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6 > No symbol table info available. > > Thread 2 (Thread -1277170768 (LWP 11931)): > #0 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x00a017a6 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () > from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x066163c7 in e_msgport_wait () > from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #3 0x06616abd in e_thread_busy () from /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.4 > No symbol table info available. > #4 0x009ffb80 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #5 0x0095a3fe in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6 > No symbol table info available. > > Thread 1 (Thread -1208551744 (LWP 11478)): > #0 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > No symbol table info available. > #1 0x00a04f0b in __waitpid_nocancel () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #2 0x06548080 in libgnomeui_module_info_get () > from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #3 > No symbol table info available. > #4 0x008737e2 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 > No symbol table info available. > #5 0x008b812c in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6 > No symbol table info available. > #6 0x008b9888 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 > No symbol table info available. > #7 0x00b202d1 in g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #8 0x00b20305 in g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #9 0x00b20371 in g_assert_warning () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #10 0x0620ba0c in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #11 0x0620ba2d in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #12 0x061d1678 in gtk_box_reorder_child () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #13 0x06209f1a in gtk_container_forall () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #14 0x0620b7a1 in gtk_container_get_focus_hadjustment () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #15 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #16 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #17 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #18 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #19 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #20 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #21 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #22 0x0620b9d6 in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #23 0x0620ba2d in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #24 0x061cdf4b in gtk_bin_get_type () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #25 0x06209f1a in gtk_container_forall () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #26 0x0620b7a1 in gtk_container_get_focus_hadjustment () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #27 0x061d390b in gtk_button_set_relief () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #28 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #29 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #30 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #31 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #32 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #33 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #34 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #35 0x0620b9d6 in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #36 0x0620ba2d in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #37 0x061cdf4b in gtk_bin_get_type () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #38 0x06209f1a in gtk_container_forall () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #39 0x0620b7a1 in gtk_container_get_focus_hadjustment () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #40 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #41 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #42 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #43 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #44 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #45 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #46 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #47 0x0620b9d6 in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #48 0x063268e4 in gtk_toolbar_unset_icon_size () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #49 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #50 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #51 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #52 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #53 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #54 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #55 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #56 0x0620b9d6 in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #57 0x0620ba2d in gtk_container_propagate_expose () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #58 0x0012c446 in bonobo_dock_item_get_orientation () > from /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #59 0x06209f1a in gtk_container_forall () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #60 0x0620b7a1 in gtk_container_get_focus_hadjustment () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #61 0x0012bd41 in bonobo_dock_item_get_orientation () > from /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #62 0x0628c352 in gtk_marshal_VOID__UINT_STRING () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #63 0x00ba7d9b in g_cclosure_new_swap () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #64 0x00ba8285 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #65 0x00bb6917 in g_signal_stop_emission () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #66 0x00bb7c53 in g_signal_emit_valist () > from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #67 0x00bb8254 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #68 0x06367ac3 in gtk_widget_activate () > from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #69 0x0628b0cb in gtk_main_do_event () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #70 0x002385ad in gdk_window_clear_area_e () > from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #71 0x00238680 in gdk_window_process_all_updates () > from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #72 0x00238701 in gdk_window_process_all_updates () > from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #73 0x00b19650 in g_child_watch_add () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #74 0x00b173ee in g_main_context_dispatch () > from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #75 0x00b1a3f6 in g_main_context_check () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #76 0x00b1a6e3 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #77 0x06497625 in bonobo_main () from /usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so.0 > No symbol table info available. > #78 0x0806392f in main (argc=6, argv=0xbfd97114) at main.c:610 > fd = > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > Patrick > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From cra at WPI.EDU Mon May 2 18:26:38 2005 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck R. Anderson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:26:38 -0400 Subject: No bugzilla in FC4? In-Reply-To: <1115056113.2931.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910505021046630ed3a6@mail.gmail.com> <1115056113.2931.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050502182638.GB1203@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 07:48:33PM +0200, nodata wrote: > I realise that, my question was poorly worded. > Why is there no bugzilla package for Fedora? Because no enterprising sole such as yourself has contributed one to Fedora Extras. From shiva at sewingwitch.com Mon May 2 18:36:47 2005 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:36:47 -0700 Subject: [Dump-announce] Dump/restore 0.4b40 released. (fwd) Message-ID: ------------ Forwarded Message ------------ Date: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:53 PM +0200 From: Stelian Pop To: dump-announce at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dump-announce] Dump/restore 0.4b40 released. Hi everybody, A new version of dump/restore, the Linux ext2/ext3 filesystem backup utilities has been released today. This release features a few bug fixes and support for ext2/ext3 extended attributes (EA). For additionnal details, see the full ChangeLog below. You can download the new version at dump/restore's homepage: http://dump.sourceforge.net Enjoy, Stelian. Changes between versions 0.4b39 and 0.4b40 (released May 2, 2005) ================================================================= 1. Changed restore to emit warnings (instead of emitting a fatal error) if a file (or a directory) is unavailable for a comparision (if the user doesn't have the necessary permissions to access it for example). Thanks to Kenneth Porter for the bug report. 2. Re-done the 'do not save directory entries to non-dumped inodes (excluded from dump)' feature. The previous implementation worked well for excluded directories but not for regular files. Thanks to Kenneth Porter for the bug report. 3. Fixed a bug in dump where the tape size was miscalculated when the user used -d/-s to specify the tape characteristics. Thanks to Philip Goisman for reporting the bug. 4. Fixed another bug introduced in restore with the hashtree implementation. This one caused restore to stop saying "removenode: non-empty directory" in some cases. 5. Added support for dumping and restoring ext2/3 extended attributes (EA), like the access control lists (ACL) or the security labels used by SELinux. -- Stelian Pop ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ Dump-announce mailing list Dump-announce at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dump-announce ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Mon May 2 19:17:57 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:17:57 -0400 Subject: OT: nvidia drivers ppc, ppc64 In-Reply-To: <4274C7F6.1000408@gmx.de> References: <4274C7F6.1000408@gmx.de> Message-ID: <42767CE5.8020505@www.linux.org.uk> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > hi, > > in the past i had no real need for the nvidia drivers for x86, x86_64 or > ia64 > i was satisfied with "nv" on my nforce1-board since rhl9, thanks mike > harris and nividia ;-) I'm not involved with "nv" driver development, so not sure why you're thanking me. ;o) The "nv" driver is source code provided by Nvidia which is obfuscated and generally only hackable by Nvidia, so it's more or less "as is" too. I can't take any credit for it working or not working. > now i need the "nvidia" drivers for ppc and in the near future for ppc64. > http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html > no luck :-( > > > http://www.apple.com/powerbook/specs.html > NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 > http://www.apple.com/powermac/specs.html > NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra > > > where/how can i get/compile these drivers if they are not (yet) provided > by nvidia > or is it possible to enhance "nv" for 3D-support and twinview ? Nvidia, and only Nvidia has the source code for their driver. Get the source code for the 2D, 3D driver from them and recompile it on PPC. Since they do not give anyone the source code at all however, you might experience a slight amount of difficulty. Getting a job at Nvidia on their proprietary driver team might help though. I suspect forwarding your resume through Andy Ritger at Nvidia to the right people might be a start. Another option, is to take the BeOS "haiku" driver source code and port it to X/DRI infrastructure and contribute your results to the X.Org Foundation and DRI projects. Since there is some source code available for the 3D bits in BeOS, it gives someone a start at least. Hope this helps. Good luck. From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 2 19:31:44 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:31:44 +0200 Subject: No bugzilla in FC4? In-Reply-To: <20050502182638.GB1203@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910505021046630ed3a6@mail.gmail.com> <1115056113.2931.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050502182638.GB1203@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <1115062304.6589.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:26 -0400, Chuck R. Anderson wrote: > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 07:48:33PM +0200, nodata wrote: > > I realise that, my question was poorly worded. > > Why is there no bugzilla package for Fedora? > > Because no enterprising sole such as yourself has contributed one to > Fedora Extras. > Why would an enterprising soul such as myself contribute one to Fedora Extras when an enterprising company such as Red Hat already use Bugzilla extensively and so would be the perfect people to package it? From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon May 2 19:36:52 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:36:52 +0200 Subject: USB messed up? In-Reply-To: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> References: <1114952163.26440.14.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115062612.3343.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> s?n, 01.05.2005 kl. 14.56 skrev Paul: > Hi, > > I have two types of USB card reader. One is an internal 7 in 1 job and > the other is an external 8 in 1 (on the laptop). Both are recognised by > hal when I run hal-device-manager, yet neither will read any cards I put > into them. > > I'm using kernel 2.6.11-1.1275_FC4 on both machines with hal 0.5.1-1. > > Do I need to report this as a kernel or hal bug into bugzilla? > > USB printing is fine. > > TTFN > > Paul I have experienced having to plug in the cardreader (or unplug/plug) *after* inserting card, or else nothing happens. Pretty hard to do on an internal one, though... Kyrre From m_epling at comcast.net Mon May 2 19:36:56 2005 From: m_epling at comcast.net (amazing powers of observation) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:36:56 -0500 Subject: No bugzilla in FC4? In-Reply-To: <1115062304.6589.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910505021046630ed3a6@mail.gmail.com> <1115056113.2931.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050502182638.GB1203@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <1115062304.6589.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42768158.10307@comcast.net> because fedora core is a community based system and not redhat nodata wrote: >On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:26 -0400, Chuck R. Anderson wrote: > > >>On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 07:48:33PM +0200, nodata wrote: >> >> >>>I realise that, my question was poorly worded. >>>Why is there no bugzilla package for Fedora? >>> >>> >>Because no enterprising sole such as yourself has contributed one to >>Fedora Extras. >> >> >> > >Why would an enterprising soul such as myself contribute one to Fedora >Extras when an enterprising company such as Red Hat already use Bugzilla >extensively and so would be the perfect people to package it? > > > From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 2 19:44:18 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:44:18 +0200 Subject: No bugzilla in FC4? In-Reply-To: <1115062304.6589.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910505021046630ed3a6@mail.gmail.com> <1115056113.2931.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050502182638.GB1203@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <1115062304.6589.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42768312.80006@gmx.de> nodata wrote: >On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:26 -0400, Chuck R. Anderson wrote: > > >>On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 07:48:33PM +0200, nodata wrote: >> >> >>>I realise that, my question was poorly worded. >>>Why is there no bugzilla package for Fedora? >>> >>> >>Because no enterprising sole such as yourself has contributed one to >>Fedora Extras. >> >Why would an enterprising soul such as myself contribute one to Fedora >Extras when an enterprising company such as Red Hat already use Bugzilla >extensively and so would be the perfect people to package it? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88295 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115186 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128959 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=135546 -- shrek-m From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Mon May 2 19:47:14 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:47:14 -0400 Subject: No bugzilla in FC4? In-Reply-To: <1115062304.6589.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910505021046630ed3a6@mail.gmail.com> <1115056113.2931.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050502182638.GB1203@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <1115062304.6589.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <427683C2.6080601@www.linux.org.uk> nodata wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:26 -0400, Chuck R. Anderson wrote: > >>On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 07:48:33PM +0200, nodata wrote: >> >>>I realise that, my question was poorly worded. >>>Why is there no bugzilla package for Fedora? >> >>Because no enterprising sole such as yourself has contributed one to >>Fedora Extras. >> > > > Why would an enterprising soul such as myself contribute one to Fedora > Extras when an enterprising company such as Red Hat already use Bugzilla > extensively and so would be the perfect people to package it? bugzilla is the type of package that would potentially be useful in Fedora Extras if someone in the community is interested in building rpm packages of it and maintaining it. Red Hat bugzilla is heavily modified from the upstream official bugzilla. Neither package is really appropriate for Fedora Core, but I see no reason that it couldn't be put in Extras once a volunteer in the community steps forward to package it and maintain it. FWIW, Fedora Core isn't a package dumping ground. From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 2 20:40:46 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 22:40:46 +0200 Subject: OT: nvidia drivers ppc, ppc64 In-Reply-To: <42767CE5.8020505@www.linux.org.uk> References: <4274C7F6.1000408@gmx.de> <42767CE5.8020505@www.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: <4276904E.1090008@gmx.de> Mike A. Harris wrote: > I suspect forwarding your resume through Andy Ritger at Nvidia to the > right > people might be a start. thanks for the hint. > Another option, is to take the BeOS "haiku" driver source code and > port it to X/DRI infrastructure and contribute your results to the > X.Org Foundation and DRI projects. Since there is some source code > available for the 3D bits in BeOS, it gives someone a start at least. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBeOS http://openbeos.org/ http://haiku-os.org/ unfortunately i have absolutely no skills in programming :-( i hope that the postings to linux-bugs at nvidia.com and the increasing demand for ppc/ppc64-drivers and 3D out of the box will reach the right people @nvidia. -- shrek-m From mpeters at mac.com Mon May 2 21:11:04 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:11:04 -0700 Subject: Weird wireless network issue - came up when NOT requested Message-ID: <1115068264.3163.14.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> IBM Thinkpad T20 Atheros wifi card (using madwifi) I'm not using NetworkManager - it was continuously losing my connection, so I turned off that daemon, and configured my user to have permission to start both the eth0 and the ath0 interface but have them set to NOT start at boot. I then put the "Network Device Control" control panel and the "Network Monitor" applet on my panel. Works just how I want - when I need internet connection, I just specify which interface to bring up and it comes up. Yesterday I was on my laptop for roughly 8 or 9 hours using LyX and playing AisleRiot Solitare (Klondike - the dondorf cards are awesome). Left it on overnight, shut it down this morning - just powered it on, and it brought up the ath0 connection by itself. I checked - it still is configured to NOT start at boot. What could cause this? Could that be a bug in gnome saving the session? I don't want it to come up unless I request it up. NetWorkManager is turned off (I checked, and asked its status - it's not running) Rawhide gnome desktop up2date except for kernel (it's running 2.6.11-1.1275_FC4) which I only plan to update every month or so (no compiler, need to build madwifi driver on a different box) Previously I've been shutting it off via telinit 0. The "ShutDown" option had disapeared from gdm and the log out menu option. They are back after last update, that's only thing I can think of that I did differently. From rray at mstc.state.ms.us Mon May 2 21:32:24 2005 From: rray at mstc.state.ms.us (Richard Ray) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:32:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: How to create a custom rescue disk Message-ID: Can someone point me to info on how to replace the isolinux/vmliunz on FC3-i386-rescuecd.iso. I've found docs that explain how to replace the packages but not the boot kernel. I've tried but I get a panic after the modules load. Loading vmlinuz Loading initrd.img .. checks hardware .. loads modules Creating root device umount /sys failed: 16 Mounting root filesystem mount: error 6 mounting ext3 mount: error 2 mounting none Switching to new root switchroot: mount failed: 22 umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Thanks Richard Ray From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 2 21:49:04 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:49:04 +0200 Subject: evolution crashes during upgrade? In-Reply-To: <1115057542.20722.68.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1114705366.4724.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114714375.9376.0.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1114785746.12040.5.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1115057542.20722.68.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115070545.4103.73.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:12 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: [snip] > > Just had a crash of Evolution after a yum update just now (spamassassin > > was upgraded during this run). I don't use Epiphany. Previously the box > > was last updated yesterday. Bug buddy complained it had no clue about > > Evolution or the "send email" entry so I couldn't report through bug > > buddy. But I did copy the info: > > Looks like an assertion failure in gtk_container_propagate_expose. Can > you reliably reproduce the crash? If so, can you run Evolution from a > command-line; it should be printing an error there. Haven't seen the crash anymore. Then again I also haven't seen a spamassassin update since. > What version of evolution and of gtk2 do you have installed? The current version is: evolution-*-1.2.2-2 (although iirc an older version was running when it crashed right after the spamassassin update with yum) gtk2-*-2.6.7-2 (don't know if this one was updated since evolution crashed that one time) [snip] Regards, Patrick From katzj at redhat.com Mon May 2 22:21:40 2005 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:21:40 -0400 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC Message-ID: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Hi. I've got an ISO for quick testing of anaconda's X configuration setup available that's a little bit smaller than a full tree. All you should have to do is download the ISO, burn it to a CD, boot and see if X starts up. Then, you can reboot and go back to your normal doings. Note that this is entirely non-destructive. So you can even run it if you are running OS X. *ANY* results would be helpful. Please be sure to include what you see happen as well as what type of hardware you're using (cpu, video, monitor). The iso is located at http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/mac-x-test.iso. The md5sum is 34234b3cdf2d89e4e94031a50f819285 Thanks in advance for testing this and helping to make test3 (and thus, the Fedora Core 4 release) better on PPC hardware! Jeremy From michal at harddata.com Mon May 2 23:45:21 2005 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:45:21 -0600 Subject: How to create a custom rescue disk In-Reply-To: ; from rray@mstc.state.ms.us on Mon, May 02, 2005 at 04:32:24PM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20050502174521.A26048@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 04:32:24PM -0500, Richard Ray wrote: > Can someone point me to info on how to replace the isolinux/vmliunz on > FC3-i386-rescuecd.iso. I've found docs that explain how to replace the > packages but not the boot kernel. If you added modules which you need you most likely need also updated initrd with a newer version of 'nash' (I assume that nash is also used on CD but I did not check). OTOH if you just want to create a custom rescue disk but you are not sure how then you can most likely use http://mkcdrec.ota.be/ or other similar project. Look at http://mkcdrec.ota.be/project/links.html I did not try that with FC4test but mkcdrec used to work in the past. Michal From jreiser at BitWagon.com Mon May 2 23:49:53 2005 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:49:53 -0700 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <4276BCA1.40701@BitWagon.com> > Hi. I've got an ISO for quick testing of anaconda's X configuration > The iso is located at http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/mac-x-test.iso. Didn't work; monitor says "FREQUENCY OVER RANGE", then blanks forever. No response in attempt to switch virtual console via Ctrl-Alt-F2; only recovery is Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot [or, power cycle the box.] Does work with boot: linux video=ofonly (a trick learned from Ubuntu 5.04.) Hardware: Apple Macintosh mini (1.2GHz G4 PowerPC, 512MB RAM, ATI Radeon 9200 (RV280)) with ViewSonic A50 CRT monitor (HorizSync 30.0 - 56.0, VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0.) Under FC4t2, xrandr says 1024x768 @70Hz; Xorg.0.log says ----- (--) RADEON(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) RADEON(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync ----- In detail: boot from CD-ROM, gets black screen with small white text (looks like 5x8 character cell, 2 rasters between text lines): ----- Welcome! Hit for boot options. Welcome to yaboot version 1.3.12 Enter "help" to get some basic usage information boot: _ ----- Typing goes to "Please wait, loading kernel...", then some text screens and flashes of less than 1 second each, then the monitor detects FREQUENCY OVER RANGE and goes black. The CD stops spinning after 20 or 30 seconds, and there is no response to keyboard except reboot via Ctrl-Alt-DEL. Booting with "linux video=ofonly" goes to usual FC4 text boot: looks like 800x600 VGA console with TUX the penguin on the first few lines, then scrolling text for the remainder of the screen. Then "Welcome to Fedora Core" on blue background, with "CD Found" character-cell dialog box. Running Media Check does not work because there is no checksum on the CD. Eventually I get to the graphical installer screens, and stop. -- From david at fubar.dk Tue May 3 00:51:57 2005 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:51:57 -0400 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1115081517.3398.7.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 18:21 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > Hi. I've got an ISO for quick testing of anaconda's X configuration > setup available that's a little bit smaller than a full tree. All you > should have to do is download the ISO, burn it to a CD, boot and see if > X starts up. Then, you can reboot and go back to your normal doings. > > Note that this is entirely non-destructive. So you can even run it if > you are running OS X. *ANY* results would be helpful. Please be sure > to include what you see happen as well as what type of hardware you're > using (cpu, video, monitor). > > The iso is located at http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/mac-x-test.iso. > The md5sum is 34234b3cdf2d89e4e94031a50f819285 > > Thanks in advance for testing this and helping to make test3 (and thus, > the Fedora Core 4 release) better on PPC hardware! OK, I tried this on my Powerbook G4 12" 867MHz (the 1st generation PB12) and X starts fine in 800x600x16 bit using the nv driver. Probing for video card: NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic) Probing for monitor type: Unknown monitor Probing for mouse type: Generic - 3 Button Mouse (PS/2) Great work. Cheers, David From drew at drewb.com Tue May 3 01:24:18 2005 From: drew at drewb.com (Drew Bertola) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:24:18 -0700 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <4276D2C2.7040309@drewb.com> Jeremy Katz wrote: > Hi. I've got an ISO for quick testing of anaconda's X configuration > setup available that's a little bit smaller than a full tree. All you > should have to do is download the ISO, burn it to a CD, boot and see if > X starts up. Then, you can reboot and go back to your normal doings. Downloading it now (it'll be a while). I had problems on my new 15" powerbook G4 that I reported to bugzilla a few weeks ago (test2). -- Drew From drew at drewb.com Tue May 3 01:34:50 2005 From: drew at drewb.com (Drew Bertola) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:34:50 -0700 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <4276D53A.4030709@drewb.com> BTW, I think it would help if people writing about PPC (and I suppose other non x86_32 topics) put the arch designator at or near the front of the subject. It makes it much easier to see when your scanning through loads of subject lines. (Lilo vs Grub just isn't relevant to me this go-around, so I'm trying to focus on what is.) I suppose this would also help w/ people on x86_32 since they could ignore arch specific discussions not relevant to them. Your subject showed up in TBird's summary as "Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on..." and ended up hitting the Trash file before I grok'd the possible significance of it. -- Drew From mricon at gmail.com Tue May 3 02:11:55 2005 From: mricon at gmail.com (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 22:11:55 -0400 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: On 5/2/05, Jeremy Katz wrote: > Hi. I've got an ISO for quick testing of anaconda's X configuration > setup available that's a little bit smaller than a full tree. All you > should have to do is download the ISO, burn it to a CD, boot and see if > X starts up. Then, you can reboot and go back to your normal doings. Hi, Jeremy: 500MHz TiBook here with ATI Rage M3. No luck -- I get "Unknown monitor" during probing, and then, when X attempts to start, milk spills and slowly takes over the screen. Sorry. Cheers, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev Zlotniks, INC From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue May 3 02:14:25 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 22:14:25 -0400 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1115086465.7569.29.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 22:11 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > On 5/2/05, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > Hi. I've got an ISO for quick testing of anaconda's X configuration > > setup available that's a little bit smaller than a full tree. All you > > should have to do is download the ISO, burn it to a CD, boot and see if > > X starts up. Then, you can reboot and go back to your normal doings. > > Hi, Jeremy: > > 500MHz TiBook here with ATI Rage M3. No luck -- I get "Unknown > monitor" during probing, and then, when X attempts to start, milk > spills and slowly takes over the screen. no use crying over that... /me runs -sv From drew at drewb.com Tue May 3 03:39:20 2005 From: drew at drewb.com (Drew Bertola) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:39:20 -0700 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <4276F268.3090105@drewb.com> Jeremy Katz wrote: > Hi. I've got an ISO for quick testing of anaconda's X configuration > setup available that's a little bit smaller than a full tree. All you > should have to do is download the ISO, burn it to a CD, boot and see if > X starts up. Then, you can reboot and go back to your normal doings. > > Note that this is entirely non-destructive. So you can even run it if > you are running OS X. *ANY* results would be helpful. Please be sure > to include what you see happen as well as what type of hardware you're > using (cpu, video, monitor). No joy on my 15" G4 Powerbook. I got the initial ncurses screen showing the Test CD / Skip choice, and then when Anaconda starts, I get a blank screen. Even the other consoles go blank (Ctrl-Alt-F2 to F4). I did happen to catch something about no video card detected during Anaconda's startup. My powerbook has a 1280x854 resolution screen and a Radeon Mobility 9700 (9600). -- Drew From drew at drewb.com Tue May 3 03:45:16 2005 From: drew at drewb.com (Drew Bertola) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:45:16 -0700 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <4276F268.3090105@drewb.com> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> <4276F268.3090105@drewb.com> Message-ID: <4276F3CC.7060608@drewb.com> Drew Bertola wrote: > No joy on my 15" G4 Powerbook. I got the initial ncurses screen showing > the Test CD / Skip choice, and then when Anaconda starts, I get a blank > screen. Even the other consoles go blank (Ctrl-Alt-F2 to F4). > > I did happen to catch something about no video card detected during > Anaconda's startup. > > My powerbook has a 1280x854 resolution screen and a Radeon Mobility > 9700 (9600). Maybe I should have pointed to my orignal bugzilla post for additional info: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=151459 -- Drew From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Tue May 3 04:09:58 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:09:58 -0700 Subject: Where have all my updates gone? Message-ID: <1115093398.5315.15.camel@homebox> Just curious, I haven't seen any updates for a couple of days...Do I have to modify something on my system to get updates again, or are we waiting for T3? Sean From roger at gwch.net Tue May 3 05:27:13 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 07:27:13 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050502 changes In-Reply-To: <200505021542.j42FgakN028731@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505021542.j42FgakN028731@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <42770BB1.5040405@gwch.net> Build System schrieb: > > > > Updated Packages: > > getting more & more stable, isnt't it? ;-) Roger From tony at tgds.net Tue May 3 06:01:10 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:01:10 +0200 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1115100071.3406.1.camel@hush> Le lundi 02 mai 2005 ? 18:21 -0400, Jeremy Katz a ?crit : > Hi. I've got an ISO for quick testing of anaconda's X configuration > setup available that's a little bit smaller than a full tree. All you > should have to do is download the ISO, burn it to a CD, boot and see if > X starts up. Then, you can reboot and go back to your normal doings. I would love to test but my Mac (B&W G3) won't boot from the non Apple CD-R I have installed... Tony From mpeters at mac.com Tue May 3 06:11:45 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:11:45 -0700 Subject: Weird wireless network issue - came up when NOT requested In-Reply-To: <1115068264.3163.14.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1115068264.3163.14.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1115100705.3293.0.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:11 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > Left it on overnight, shut it down this morning - just powered it on, > and it brought up the ath0 connection by itself. > > I checked - it still is configured to NOT start at boot. What could > cause this? Could that be a bug in gnome saving the session? I can't seem to get it to do it again. From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue May 3 06:23:49 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:23:49 +0200 Subject: Where have all my updates gone? In-Reply-To: <1115093398.5315.15.camel@homebox> References: <1115093398.5315.15.camel@homebox> Message-ID: <427718F5.9070804@gmx.de> Sean Bruno wrote: >Just curious, I haven't seen any updates for a couple of days...Do I >have to modify something on my system to get updates again, or are we >waiting for T3? > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From: Arjan van de Ven To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:15:14 -0400 Subject: Re: rawhide report: 20050501 changes some buildmachines broke down and there is a HUGE queue ;) so once that's resolved there'll probably be a big wave of new stuff -- shrek-m From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue May 3 07:00:15 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:00:15 +0200 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115081517.3398.7.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> <1115081517.3398.7.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4277217F.6050106@gmx.de> David Zeuthen wrote: >On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 18:21 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > >>Please be sure to include what you see happen as well as what type of hardware you're >>using (cpu, video, monitor). >> >OK, I tried this on my Powerbook G4 12" 867MHz (the 1st generation PB12) >and X starts fine in 800x600x16 bit using the nv driver. > > Probing for video card: NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic) > Probing for monitor type: Unknown monitor > Probing for mouse type: Generic - 3 Button Mouse (PS/2) > >Great work. > powerbook g4 12" 666/1333MHhz is ok too :-) # lspci | grep nVidia 00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200] (rev a1) # cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 666MHz revision : 1.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips : 663.55 machine : PowerBook6,4 motherboard : PowerBook6,4 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (PowerBook G4 12") pmac flags : 0000001a L2 cache : 512K unified memory : 768MB pmac-generation : NewWorld -- shrek-m From federico.bebber at gmail.com Tue May 3 07:41:04 2005 From: federico.bebber at gmail.com (Hubert Cumberdale) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:41:04 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050502 changes In-Reply-To: <42770BB1.5040405@gwch.net> References: <200505021542.j42FgakN028731@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <42770BB1.5040405@gwch.net> Message-ID: "Roger" > getting more & more stable, isnt't it? ;-) rotfl (sorry for the ot) From tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com Tue May 3 07:38:29 2005 From: tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:38:29 +0200 Subject: No bugzilla in FC4? In-Reply-To: <1115062304.6589.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115055720.2931.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910505021046630ed3a6@mail.gmail.com> <1115056113.2931.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050502182638.GB1203@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <1115062304.6589.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115105909.20696.4.camel@tarjei.predichem.nett> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 21:31, nodata wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:26 -0400, Chuck R. Anderson wrote: > > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 07:48:33PM +0200, nodata wrote: > > > I realise that, my question was poorly worded. > > > Why is there no bugzilla package for Fedora? > > > > Because no enterprising sole such as yourself has contributed one to > > Fedora Extras. > > > > Why would an enterprising soul such as myself contribute one to Fedora > Extras when an enterprising company such as Red Hat already use Bugzilla > extensively and so would be the perfect people to package it? Maybe a bit OT this, but I would really suggest you evaluate some of the more easy to use bugtracking solutions before going with Bugzilla. At least I feel that it's a bit too heavy handed and too much work to customize for smaller projects. Check out: mantis: http://www.mantisbt.org/ trac: http://www.edgewall.com/trac/ roundup: http://roundup.sourceforge.net/ (... and probably many others.) Regards, -- Tarjei From rodd at clarkson.id.au Tue May 3 10:08:31 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:08:31 +1000 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115041843.6021.20.camel@kj> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> <1115036388.3057.22.camel@hush> <1115041843.6021.20.camel@kj> Message-ID: <1115114911.4356.22.camel@goose> > > What does totem actually play? It does not seem capable of playing any > > media I have available. > > Totem is just the player front-end and will only play whatever the back- > end is able to play. Fedora Totem uses gstreamer which is only able to > play unpatented formats, which means no mp3, no mpeg, no divx. It does > play ogg audio and maybe ogg theora video. It's also capable of reading > from a video4linux source (webcam, tv card). Just to clear any confusion here, gstreamer is capable of playing most formats. The version included in Fedora is limited to just open formats. Any format with dubious patents or licenses isn't included, but that's a fedora decision. Luckily, the gstreamer guys have compiled the rpms for gstreamer into a selection of packages that seperate the free codecs from the patented ones, which means you don't have to do much more than add the non-free ones to get support for them in Fedora. > > And by the way, the totem interface is as ugly as sin. (Just had to get > > that out of my system) > > Ugly as in "uses sane widgets and menu's"? Personally I like it a lot > more than the "skinnable" media players; they always seem to have a lot > of tiny buttons and waste screen space for graphics. I agree. Each to his own. Personally I love that totem is so plain that it's not a distraction. Rodd From paul at dishone.st Tue May 3 10:09:38 2005 From: paul at dishone.st (Paul Jakma) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:09:38 +0100 (IST) Subject: Stealthing Ports in system-config-securitylevel was: SSH brute force attack In-Reply-To: <42707FC9.2030300@gwch.net> References: <42707FC9.2030300@gwch.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > We have a nice tool called system-config-securitylevel, why isn't > it possible to indicate some ips or ranges there an click to > "stealth" so, this port is just visible to the indicated > ip-adresses?? Usually with ssh you want it generally accessible. The 'recent' module is useful though, to slow-down brute force attacks: # grep ssh-scan /etc/sysconfig/iptables :ssh-scan - [0:0] -A infilter -j ssh-scan -A ssh-scan -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m recent --set --name SSH --rsource -A ssh-scan -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m recent --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 8 --rttl --name SSH --rsource -j LOG --log-prefix "SSH Scan: " -A ssh-scan -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m recent --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 8 --rttl --name SSH --rsource -j DROP (as seen on Debian Planet). The hitcount parameter probably should be reduced to 3 to 5 though (I use 8 to filter ssh to a whole subnet). regards, -- Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie paul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortune: You will lose an important tape file. From harald at redhat.com Tue May 3 10:49:56 2005 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:49:56 +0200 Subject: Weird wireless network issue - came up when NOT requested In-Reply-To: <1115100705.3293.0.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1115068264.3163.14.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1115100705.3293.0.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <42775754.6090609@redhat.com> Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:11 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > >>Left it on overnight, shut it down this morning - just powered it on, >>and it brought up the ath0 connection by itself. >> >>I checked - it still is configured to NOT start at boot. What could >>cause this? Could that be a bug in gnome saving the session? > > > I can't seem to get it to do it again. > maybe it was the pcmcia hotplug event... try: # cardctl eject # cardctl insert if you do not want this, just rename the nickname to s.th. else than "ath0". From rodd at clarkson.id.au Tue May 3 11:12:28 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:12:28 +1000 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1115118748.4356.37.camel@goose> > Do I understand you correctly that the lack of certain gstreamer plugins > is the reason why Totem on my up2date FC4T2 box won't play any video > file (mpg, avi, wmv, mov)? Probably. > > I'm using the FC3 repo on the gstreamer site with > > FC4T1 (updated to current) and it's working quite well. > [snip] > > Exactly which packages did you install from the gstreamer yum repo? I'd > love to get this functionality back like I had with FC3 and mplayer. I've got the following installed: gstreamer.i386 0.8.9-4 installed gstreamer-devel.i386 0.8.9-4 installed gstreamer-editor.i386 0.8.0-0.fdr.1.3 installed gstreamer-ffmpeg.i386 0.8.4-0.lvn.1.3 installed gstreamer-monkeysaudio.i386 0.8.0-0.lvn.1.3 installed gstreamer-plugins.i386 0.8.8-5 installed gstreamer-plugins-audio.i386 0.8.8-0.fdr.1.3 installed gstreamer-plugins-devel.i386 0.8.8-5 installed gstreamer-plugins-extra-audio.i386 0.8.8-0.lvn.1.3 installed gstreamer-plugins-extra-dvd.i386 0.8.8-0.lvn.1.3 installed gstreamer-plugins-extra-video.i386 0.8.8-0.lvn.1.3 installed gstreamer-plugins-video.i386 0.8.8-0.fdr.1.3 installed gstreamer-tools.i386 0.8.9-4 installed Some of these are Fedora, the rest are from gstreamer-gst. Rodd -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel From RouillardSy at yahoo.fr Tue May 3 11:30:24 2005 From: RouillardSy at yahoo.fr (Sylvain Rouillard) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:30:24 +0200 Subject: gam_server CPU eater is back Message-ID: <200505031330.24637.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> Am I the only one to see this? I've had the problem with gam_server eating 100% of my CPU with FC3, and it looks like the problem is back now in FC4T2. I cannot tell since when though. But very often (several times per minute I'd say), I see my CPU usage going up to 100%, due to gam_server, staying up there for a few seconds and going back to normal. $ rpm -q gamin gamin-0.0.26-1 From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Tue May 3 11:40:38 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:40:38 -0300 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115114911.4356.22.camel@goose> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> <1115036388.3057.22.camel@hush> <1115041843.6021.20.camel@kj> <1115114911.4356.22.camel@goose> Message-ID: <1115120438.9147.1.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Em Ter, 2005-05-03 ?s 20:08 +1000, Rodd Clarkson escreveu: > Luckily, the gstreamer guys have compiled the rpms for gstreamer into a > selection of packages that seperate the free codecs from the patented > ones, which means you don't have to do much more than add the non-free > ones to get support for them in Fedora. Even using those rpms, totem is still not that well-behaved. I just had to reinstall mplayer so I could see some videos which woulnd't work with totem correctly (strang sound, crappy video) From buildsys at redhat.com Tue May 3 12:10:31 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:10:31 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050503 changes Message-ID: <200505031210.j43CAVwY027741@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: GFS-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050426.134031.FC4.9 ----------------------------------------- anaconda-10.2.0.58-1 -------------------- * Mon May 02 2005 Jeremy Katz - 10.2.0.58-1 - Beep on CD insertion, not after - Fix language support selection (clumens) - Fix nfsiso (clumens) - Misc X config fixes for ppc. Boot with "usefbx" to use fbdev instead again (#149188) chkconfig-1.3.19-1 ------------------ * Fri Apr 29 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.3.19-1 - build with updated translations cman-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.5 ------------------------------------------ comps-extras-10.2-1 ------------------- * Mon May 02 2005 Bill Nottingham - 10.2-1 - add some icons dlm-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.6 ----------------------------------------- gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.10 ------------------------------------------- initscripts-8.10-1 ------------------ * Fri Apr 29 2005 Bill Nottingham 8.10-1 - fix hang on stale GDM sockets (#156355) kernel-2.6.11-1.1282_FC4 ------------------------ * Sun May 01 2005 Dave Jones - Fix yesterdays IDE fixes. - Blacklist another brainless SCSI scanner. (#155457) * Sun May 01 2005 David Woodhouse - Fix EHCI port power switching * Sun May 01 2005 Dave Jones - Enable usbmon & debugfs. (#156489) kudzu-1.1.116-1 --------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.1.116-1 - fix nforce4 fix - some readlink() usage fixes perl-3:5.8.6-10 --------------- * Thu Apr 28 2005 Ville Skytt?? - 3:5.8.6-10 - Apply fixes for CAN-2004-0452, CAN-2005-0155 and CAN-2005-0156 (#156128). * Tue Apr 26 2005 Warren Togami - 3:5.8.6-7 - Updating CGI.pm from version 3.05 to 3.08 (mod_perl 2.0.0 RC5). (#155839) rhpl-0.161-1 ------------ * Mon May 02 2005 Jeremy Katz - 0.161-1 - Only default to fbdev X server on ppc64pseries, not all ppc (#149188) - Set UseFBDev on ppc boxes using ati video cards (#149188) samba-0:3.0.14a-2 ----------------- * Mon May 02 2005 Jay Fenlason 3.0.14a-2 - New upstream release. - the -64bit-timestamps, -clitar, -establish_trust, user_rights_v1, winbind_find_dc_v2 patches are now obsolete. * Thu Apr 07 2005 Jay Fenlason 3.0.13-2 - New upstream release - add my -quoting patch, to fix swat with strings that contain html meta-characters, and to use correct quote characters in lists, closing bz#134310 - include the upstream winbindd_2k3sp1 patch - include the -smbclient patch. - include the -hang patch from upstream. selinux-policy-strict-1.23.14-2 ------------------------------- * Mon May 02 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.14-2 - Allow all domains on ppc execmem priv, otherwise it crashes * Mon May 02 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.14-1 - Update to latest from NSA * Added afs policy from Andrew Reisse. * Merged patch from Lorenzo Hern??ndez Garc??a-Hierro which defines execstack and execheap permissions. The patch excludes these permissions from general_domain_access and updates the macros for X, legacy binaries, users, and unconfined domains. * Added nlmsg_relay permisison where netlink_audit_socket class is used. Added nlmsg_readpriv permission to auditd_t and auditctl_t. * Merged some minor cleanups from Russell Coker and David Hampton. * Merged patch from Dan Walsh. Many changes made to allow targeted policy to run closer to strict and now almost all of non-userspace is protected via SELinux. Kernel is now in unconfined_domain for targeted and runs as root:system_r:kernel_t. Added transitionbool to daemon_sub_domain, mainly to turn off httpd_suexec transitioning. Implemented web_client_domain name_connect rules. Added yp support for cups. Now the real hotplug, udev, initial_sid_contexts are used for the targeted policy. Other minor cleanups and fixes. Auditd fixes by Paul Moore. * Fri Apr 29 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.13-8 - Fixes for consoletype, kudzu reading proc_t - Add label /dev/adb - Fixes for hal selinux-policy-targeted-1.23.14-2 --------------------------------- * Mon May 02 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.14-2 - Allow all domains on ppc execmem priv, otherwise it crashes * Mon May 02 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.14-1 - Update to latest from NSA * Added afs policy from Andrew Reisse. * Merged patch from Lorenzo Hern??ndez Garc??a-Hierro which defines execstack and execheap permissions. The patch excludes these permissions from general_domain_access and updates the macros for X, legacy binaries, users, and unconfined domains. * Added nlmsg_relay permisison where netlink_audit_socket class is used. Added nlmsg_readpriv permission to auditd_t and auditctl_t. * Merged some minor cleanups from Russell Coker and David Hampton. * Merged patch from Dan Walsh. Many changes made to allow targeted policy to run closer to strict and now almost all of non-userspace is protected via SELinux. Kernel is now in unconfined_domain for targeted and runs as root:system_r:kernel_t. Added transitionbool to daemon_sub_domain, mainly to turn off httpd_suexec transitioning. Implemented web_client_domain name_connect rules. Added yp support for cups. Now the real hotplug, udev, initial_sid_contexts are used for the targeted policy. Other minor cleanups and fixes. Auditd fixes by Paul Moore. * Fri Apr 29 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.13-8 - Fixes for consoletype, kudzu reading proc_t - Add label /dev/adb - Fixes for hal From dwmw2 at infradead.org Tue May 3 12:12:15 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:12:15 +0100 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 18:21 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > Hi. I've got an ISO for quick testing of anaconda's X configuration > setup available that's a little bit smaller than a full tree. All you > should have to do is download the ISO, burn it to a CD, boot and see > if > X starts up. Then, you can reboot and go back to your normal doings. > > Note that this is entirely non-destructive. So you can even run it if > you are running OS X. *ANY* results would be helpful. Please be sure > to include what you see happen as well as what type of hardware you're > using (cpu, video, monitor). > > The iso is located at http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/mac-x-test.iso. > The md5sum is 34234b3cdf2d89e4e94031a50f819285 PowerBook1,1 (Rage 128): Works fine. PowerBook5,3 (Radeon 9600): Kills machine hard. The kernel has enabled dynamic clocks and unless X also does so, I see this... (II) RADEON(0): Dynamic Clock Scaling Disabled (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering not yet supported on Radeon 9500 and newer cards (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... ... and then it dies. Ben, is this expected behaviour if the kernel and X disagree about the use of dynamic clocks? Is this addressed by one of the patches you have outstanding at http://gate.crashing.org/~benh/xorg/ ? The second problem with the PB5,3 is that rhpl explicitly specifies 800x600 instead of letting X honour the DDC information. I can see that rhpl has code to parse this, but it doesn't seem to be doing so... (II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) RADEON(0): clock: 96.2 MHz Image Size: 367 x 230 mm (II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1440 h_sync: 1504 h_sync_end 1536 h_blank_end 1760 h_border: 0 (II) RADEON(0): v_active: 900 v_sync: 903 v_sync_end 906 v_blanking: 912 v_border: 0 <...> (II) RADEON(0): Panel size found from DDC: 1440x900 (II) RADEON(0): Valid Mode from Detailed timing table: 1440x900 This patch to the rhpl-generated XConfig.test makes it work: --- XConfig.test.orig 2005-05-03 12:51:18.000000000 +0100 +++ XConfig.test 2005-05-03 12:51:05.000000000 +0100 @@ -104,2 +104,3 @@ Option "UseFBDev" "true" + Option "DynamicClocks" "true" EndSection @@ -114,3 +115,2 @@ Depth 16 - Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection Full log at http://david.woodhou.se/Xorg.1.log -- dwmw2 From sct at redhat.com Tue May 3 12:12:39 2005 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:12:39 +0100 Subject: fsck.ext3 different? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115122359.1982.75.camel@sisko.sctweedie.blueyonder.co.uk> Hi, On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:59, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > You can mount partitions without running fsck, though -- just put a > "0" in the last field in /etc/fstab and it'll mount without checking. > This has worked in my experience, but I don't claim to understand all > of the issues and maybe this is just papering over some looming > problem ... but as long as you boot FC4 occasionally, the partition > will still get checked, right? Not really. With a journaling filesystem, "fsck" actually performs two completely separate functions. One is the normal recovery that occurs to make the filesystem consistent after an uncontrolled reboot; the other is a full consistency check which scans the entire filesystem and corrects any problems seen. The recovery bit is very quick, which is why reboots are faster with journaling filesystems. And the kernel can do a recovery itself, so if you don't fsck the filesystem at boot time, it doesn't matter. But when a full consistency check is required --- either because the "time until next check" counters have expired (see man tune2fs), or because the kernel previously encountered a problem on the filesystem and marked it as containing an error, then you need to have a fsck that understands all of the current features on that filesystem. So if you periodically boot to FC4 from an FC2 machine, all that happens is that if there's no error, nothing gets checked (ie. no improvement); and if there _is_ an error, then most of your boots are still into FC2, so at that point the machine won't boot. You can either keep a newer rescue disk around to do the forced fsck if you ever get errors on the fs, or simply disable the features you don't want (with tune2fs), and do a forced fsck to clean up. --Stephen From veillard at redhat.com Tue May 3 12:19:40 2005 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:19:40 -0400 Subject: gam_server CPU eater is back In-Reply-To: <200505031330.24637.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> References: <200505031330.24637.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <20050503121940.GC14726@redhat.com> On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 01:30:24PM +0200, Sylvain Rouillard wrote: > Am I the only one to see this? > > I've had the problem with gam_server eating 100% of my CPU with FC3, and it > looks like the problem is back now in FC4T2. I cannot tell since when though. > But very often (several times per minute I'd say), I see my CPU usage going > up to 100%, due to gam_server, staying up there for a few seconds and going > back to normal. sounds potentially normal. One of the program asked to watch a resource which is constantly changing. After a while gam_server detects the flood of event and switch back to polling. Don't ask for kernel monitoring of resources which change constantly, the kernel will just by default send you a continuous stream of change notification events. If it's a different scenario, then nothing in your mail allowed to guess what it might be. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From kapointer at charter.net Tue May 3 12:20:20 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 07:20:20 -0500 Subject: One thing I can think of. In-Reply-To: <20050503070031.3A41E73D00@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050503070031.3A41E73D00@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115122820.608.2.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> As FC4 becomes more stable there is one package that I still h ave quite a bit of trouble with. gnome-pilot still doesn't work. Other than that everything else it pretty great. :) Well.. There *is* the SELinux rules, and the Firewall still has problems with active FTP. But other than that I haven't seen a single thing wrong with it in ages. -- Kyle Pointer From RouillardSy at yahoo.fr Tue May 3 12:45:05 2005 From: RouillardSy at yahoo.fr (Sylvain Rouillard) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:45:05 +0200 Subject: gam_server CPU eater is back In-Reply-To: <20050503121940.GC14726@redhat.com> References: <200505031330.24637.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> <20050503121940.GC14726@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200505031445.05882.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> Hi Daniel, That's true, I wasn't very specific, the main aim of my mail was to know if it was a problem at my end, or if it was a problem that was observed by many others. Actually, after I posted this mail, I decided to kill gam_server, like in the good old days, to see what it does. Well, this seemingly fixed the problem for a bit. Now that I look closer, gam_server seems to be using the CPU by growing waves, so to speak. It's peaking at 10% now, I'll see if peaks keep going up. My system has been up for 4 days now without a reboot, so, if my observation is confirmed, it could very well explain how it ended up peaking at 100% after 4 days. >From my perspective, I do not see how resource changes could lead to such a behavior (growing peaks over time), but then again, I could be completely off, hence my poll for other's input on that. I can also not understand how killing the service would fix that 'problem' if it is only related to resources changes (which rate was presumably unchanged by the murder of that poor gam_server). But then again, this may very well be due to my own ignorance. I'll keep watching what gam_server does anyway :-) Le Mardi 3 Mai 2005 14:19, Daniel Veillard a ?crit?: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 01:30:24PM +0200, Sylvain Rouillard wrote: > > Am I the only one to see this? > > > > I've had the problem with gam_server eating 100% of my CPU with FC3, and > > it looks like the problem is back now in FC4T2. I cannot tell since when > > though. But very often (several times per minute I'd say), I see my CPU > > usage going up to 100%, due to gam_server, staying up there for a few > > seconds and going back to normal. > > sounds potentially normal. One of the program asked to watch a > resource which is constantly changing. After a while gam_server detects the > flood of event and switch back to polling. Don't ask for kernel monitoring > of resources which change constantly, the kernel will just by default send > you a continuous stream of change notification events. If it's a different > scenario, then nothing in your mail allowed to guess what it might be. > > Daniel > > -- > Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ > veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ > http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From chrisw01 at privatei.com Tue May 3 13:25:43 2005 From: chrisw01 at privatei.com (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 07:25:43 -0600 Subject: Rawhide dep issue with struts11 Message-ID: <1115126743.15207.6.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Anyone else seen this? I've been lurking and thinking this would resolve itself in time, but so far with continued rawhide refreshes, but I've been having this problem for the last week or so. Output from yum -y update: Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 extras-development 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package struts11.noarch 0:1.1-1jpp_4fc set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc for package: struts11-webapps-tomcat5 --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc is needed by package struts11-webapps-tomcat5 You can obviously get around this with a --exclude=struts11 option, but I'm curious if I'm the only one seeing this. Shall I Bugzilla this or just wait patiently just a little longer? Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom From czar at czarc.net Tue May 3 14:35:40 2005 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:35:40 -0400 Subject: Rawhide dep issue with struts11 In-Reply-To: <1115126743.15207.6.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1115126743.15207.6.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <200505031035.40514.czar@czarc.net> On Tuesday 03 May 2005 09:25, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > Anyone else seen this? I've been lurking and thinking this would resolve > itself in time, but so far with continued rawhide refreshes, but I've > been having this problem for the last week or so. Output from yum -y > update: > > Setting up Update Process > Setting up repositories > development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB > 00:00 > extras-development 100% |=========================| 951 B > 00:00 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > Resolving Dependencies > --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. > ---> Package struts11.noarch 0:1.1-1jpp_4fc set to be updated > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc for package: > struts11-webapps-tomcat5 > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc is needed by package > struts11-webapps-tomcat5 > > You can obviously get around this with a --exclude=struts11 option, but > I'm curious if I'm the only one seeing this. > > Shall I Bugzilla this or just wait patiently just a little longer? I hit this problem a while ago and believe there is something in the mail archives about it. Anyway, struts11-webapps-tomcat5 has been deleted from the distribution. Delete this package and the rest of struts11 will update OK (or delete all of struts11 and install it fresh from the archives which will do the same thing). -- Gene From katzj at redhat.com Tue May 3 14:41:54 2005 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:41:54 -0400 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115131314.5982.28.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 13:12 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > The second problem with the PB5,3 is that rhpl explicitly specifies > 800x600 instead of letting X honour the DDC information. I can see that > rhpl has code to parse this, but it doesn't seem to be doing so... We only parse it if the X startup fails. If the X startup _succeeds_, then parsing the log, killing X, and restarting it may lead to X not starting back up, which ends up being worse. But this basically sounds like us not being worse off on ppc laptops than on x86 ones. This gets back to the discussion we had a few weeks ago about X configuration :-) Jeremy From Joe.Hoot at itec.suny.edu Tue May 3 15:00:58 2005 From: Joe.Hoot at itec.suny.edu (Joe.Hoot at itec.suny.edu) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:00:58 -0400 Subject: FC4T2 on PPC64 Message-ID: Hi all, Has anyone had issues with their system shutting down after a small amount of load? I installed FC4T2 on PPC64 (dual proc G5). The system, for the most part, stays up. However, every once in awhile it crashes/powers off. This ocurrs within seconds of running a command (seems to be random commands. Probably something that access disk such as yum check-update or a grep or find). 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From dwmw2 at infradead.org Tue May 3 15:38:57 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:38:57 +0100 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115131314.5982.28.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> <1115131314.5982.28.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1115134737.16187.9.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 10:41 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > We only parse it if the X startup fails. If the X startup _succeeds_, > then parsing the log, killing X, and restarting it may lead to X not > starting back up, which ends up being worse. But this basically sounds > like us not being worse off on ppc laptops than on x86 ones. Couldn't we just refrain from specifying a mode in this case, since we _know_ we're just pulling it out of our wossname? Or if we _must_ specify a mode, what's wrong with the one we get from 'fbset -x'? -- dwmw2 From katzj at redhat.com Tue May 3 16:04:45 2005 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:04:45 -0400 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115134737.16187.9.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> <1115131314.5982.28.camel@bree.local.net> <1115134737.16187.9.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115136285.5982.49.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 16:38 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 10:41 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > We only parse it if the X startup fails. If the X startup _succeeds_, > > then parsing the log, killing X, and restarting it may lead to X not > > starting back up, which ends up being worse. But this basically sounds > > like us not being worse off on ppc laptops than on x86 ones. > > Couldn't we just refrain from specifying a mode in this case, since we > _know_ we're just pulling it out of our wossname? Or if we _must_ > specify a mode, what's wrong with the one we get from 'fbset -x'? The problem is that adding a "if this looks like this, and this looks like this and this looks like something else" to do a workaround like not specifying the modes does *not* lead to the code being maintainable. It's already bad enough, there's no need to make things worse. :-) But, doing a hack to look at the fb mode on ppc and try that resolution probably isn't terrible to do in anaconda [1]. I'm afraid it still isn't going to help with some of the radeon problems, though :/ Jeremy [1] In fact, it's not -- committed the following Index: anaconda =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVS/anaconda/anaconda,v retrieving revision 1.340 diff -u -u -r1.340 anaconda --- anaconda 3 May 2005 02:00:45 -0000 1.340 +++ anaconda 3 May 2005 15:54:51 -0000 @@ -911,6 +911,14 @@ # if no monitor probed lets guess based on runres hsync = monitorhw.getMonitorHorizSync() vsync = monitorhw.getMonitorVertSync() + + # if we're on a pmac, try to use the fb resolution + if not runres_override and iutil.getPPCMachine() == "PMac": + fbinfo = isys.fbinfo() + fbres = "%sx%s" %(fbinfo[0], fbinfo[1]) + if monitor.monitor_supports_mode(hsync, vsync, fbres): + runres = fbres + res_supported = monitor.monitor_supports_mode(hsync, vsync, runres) # XXX: this is a bit of a hack, but there are a reasonable number of From dwmw2 at infradead.org Tue May 3 16:12:43 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:12:43 +0100 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115136764.16187.15.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 13:12 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > PowerBook5,3 (Radeon 9600): Kills machine hard. The kernel has enabled > dynamic clocks and unless X also does so, I see this... > > (II) RADEON(0): Dynamic Clock Scaling Disabled > (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering not yet supported on Radeon 9500 and newer cards > (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... > (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... > ... and then it dies. This is actually a caused by a patch we have in our xorg-x11 RPM. Stock 6.8.2 works fine (albeit at 800x600) with dynamic clocks off. cf. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=152648 -- dwmw2 From dwmw2 at infradead.org Tue May 3 16:16:32 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:16:32 +0100 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115136285.5982.49.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> <1115131314.5982.28.camel@bree.local.net> <1115134737.16187.9.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> <1115136285.5982.49.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1115136992.16187.19.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 12:04 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > The problem is that adding a "if this looks like this, and this looks > like this and this looks like something else" to do a workaround like > not specifying the modes does *not* lead to the code being maintainable. > It's already bad enough, there's no need to make things worse. :-) The logic I was thinking of would be "If we have information about supported modes, then specify a mode. Else keep quiet and let X work it out for itself". > But, doing a hack to look at the fb mode on ppc and try that resolution > probably isn't terrible to do in anaconda [1]. Does it need to be ppc-specific? If DDC fails, just try to get a sane modeline from the framebuffer. > I'm afraid it still isn't going to help with some of the radeon > problems, though :/ See separate mail re the dynamic clock lockup. -- dwmw2 From eolson at MIT.EDU Tue May 3 16:28:34 2005 From: eolson at MIT.EDU (Edwin Olson) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:28:34 -0400 Subject: USB problems with 2.6.11-1.1258_FC4 Message-ID: <4277A6B2.2000404@mit.edu> Upon updating to the new kernel (1282 on x86), USBstopped working. lspci still showed the usb adapters (but maybe only the USB 2.0 ones?), but lsusb showed no devices (including my mouse.) The devices did not appear to get enumerated-- the LED on my mouse never turned on. This is a FC4T2 machine, a dell 8250 P4. lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset Host Bridge (MCH) (rev 04) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 04) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 04) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 04) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 04) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 420] (rev a3) 02:01.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50) 02:01.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50) 02:01.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) 02:02.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50) 02:02.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50) 02:02.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) 02:08.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) 02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) 02:09.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 0a) 02:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 10) I saw nothing relevant in /var/log/messages. I had no trouble with previous versions of fc4t2 kernels. From davej at redhat.com Tue May 3 16:38:31 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:38:31 -0400 Subject: USB problems with 2.6.11-1.1258_FC4 In-Reply-To: <4277A6B2.2000404@mit.edu> References: <4277A6B2.2000404@mit.edu> Message-ID: <20050503163831.GC26161@redhat.com> On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 12:28:34PM -0400, Edwin Olson wrote: > Upon updating to the new kernel (1282 on x86), USBstopped working. lspci > still showed the usb adapters (but maybe only the USB 2.0 ones?), but > lsusb showed no devices (including my mouse.) The devices did not appear > to get enumerated-- the LED on my mouse never turned on. > > This is a FC4T2 machine, a dell 8250 P4. > > lspci: > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset Host > Bridge (MCH) (rev 04) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset AGP > Bridge (rev 04) > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 04) > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 04) > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 04) > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 04) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX > 420] (rev a3) > 02:01.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 > Controller (rev 50) > 02:01.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 > Controller (rev 50) > 02:01.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) > 02:02.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 > Controller (rev 50) > 02:02.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 > Controller (rev 50) > 02:02.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) > 02:08.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 > MX/MX 400] (rev b2) > 02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) > 02:09.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port > (rev 0a) > 02:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro > 100] (rev 10) > > I saw nothing relevant in /var/log/messages. I had no trouble with > previous versions of fc4t2 kernels. There'll be a fixed kernel at http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4 just as soon as its popped out the other side of the build system. Dave From katzj at redhat.com Tue May 3 16:47:39 2005 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:47:39 -0400 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115136992.16187.19.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> <1115131314.5982.28.camel@bree.local.net> <1115134737.16187.9.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> <1115136285.5982.49.camel@bree.local.net> <1115136992.16187.19.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115138861.5982.51.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 17:16 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > But, doing a hack to look at the fb mode on ppc and try that resolution > > probably isn't terrible to do in anaconda [1]. > > Does it need to be ppc-specific? If DDC fails, just try to get a sane > modeline from the framebuffer. We use vga16fb on i386/x86_64/ia64 to get CJK text consoles. And trying to get fbinfo from that isn't going to give results that we want or expect :) Jeremy From dwmw2 at infradead.org Tue May 3 17:08:24 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:08:24 +0100 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC In-Reply-To: <1115138861.5982.51.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> <1115122336.4446.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> <1115131314.5982.28.camel@bree.local.net> <1115134737.16187.9.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> <1115136285.5982.49.camel@bree.local.net> <1115136992.16187.19.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> <1115138861.5982.51.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1115140104.16187.31.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 12:47 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > We use vga16fb on i386/x86_64/ia64 to get CJK text consoles. And trying > to get fbinfo from that isn't going to give results that we want or > expect :) Hm. Use what we get from the fb if it's better than 640x480, perhaps? Or if the driver _isn't_ vga16fb? But we're rapidly descending into the realm of the not-pretty, I agree. -- dwmw2 From dwalsh at redhat.com Tue May 3 20:27:18 2005 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:27:18 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test Update: selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.1 Message-ID: <4277DEA6.4080600@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2005-354 2005-05-03 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 3 Name : selinux-policy-targeted Version : 1.17.30 Release : 3.1 Summary : SELinux targeted policy configuration Description : Security-enhanced Linux is a patch of the Linux? kernel and a number of utilities with enhanced security functionality designed to add mandatory access controls to Linux. The Security-enhanced Linux kernel contains new architectural components originally developed to improve the security of the Flask operating system. These architectural components provide general support for the enforcement of many kinds of mandatory access control policies, including those based on the concepts of Type Enforcement?, Role-based Access Control, and Multi-level Security. This package contains the SELinux example policy configuration along with the Flask configuration information and the application configuration files. --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/ 0e511aa40e57dcade4bda04076635774 SRPMS/selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.1.src.rpm 58ac715c48f765e753c09c9f0abee70c x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.1.noarch.rpm b9f3082c30f6c35398f21da49ae0e614 x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.17.30-3.1.noarch.rpm 58ac715c48f765e753c09c9f0abee70c i386/selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.1.noarch.rpm b9f3082c30f6c35398f21da49ae0e614 i386/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.17.30-3.1.noarch.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/$ARCH --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From jerryw4386 at msn.com Tue May 3 22:26:13 2005 From: jerryw4386 at msn.com (JERRY WHITMIRE) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:26:13 -0700 Subject: kernel 2.6.11-1.1282_FC4 Message-ID: EXT3-fs error [device dm-0]:ext_get_inode_loc unable to read inode-block-inode-8323073,block=8323074 same as top exceptinode=13238273,block13238274 cant access null exec of init[null]failed !!!:14 kernel panic-not syncing. attempted to kill init _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 3 22:38:48 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:38:48 +0100 Subject: Booting problem from last week Message-ID: <1115159928.10253.21.camel@localhost> Hi, I did an update to the machine at work which included the broken version of init-tools (IIRC) which means that booting may not work (which it doesn't at work). Is there any way to rescue said system? I know on the laptop I did it by using RIP Linux, chroot /mnt/linux and chkconfig the clamav stuff which seemed to be annoying the system. Problem is with the box at work is the crash occurs at the end of discovering and allocating PID values to network connectors and I've no idea what service controls that or how to switch it off so I can at least boot and manually fix the problems. Any advice would be appreciated. TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dberkley at yahoo.com Tue May 3 23:38:02 2005 From: dberkley at yahoo.com (David Berkley) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC4T2 VPN failure Message-ID: <20050503233802.27959.qmail@web41402.mail.yahoo.com> My pptp (patched) VPN (to a microsoft server) works fine on FC3 and fails authentication (bad reply to magic number) in FC4. All authentication data appears correct (username, password) but magic number doesn't check with server. I see no bugzilla filing about this but have no idea what type of problem this could be filed as. david __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dberkley at yahoo.com Tue May 3 23:39:00 2005 From: dberkley at yahoo.com (David Berkley) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC4T2 Firestarter failure Message-ID: <20050503233900.58948.qmail@web41404.mail.yahoo.com> Most recent development (and earlier) Firestarter GUI fails with an Xlib protocol failure. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 3 23:50:28 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 00:50:28 +0100 Subject: OOo templates? Message-ID: <1115164228.10253.32.camel@localhost> Hi, Before moving to OOo 1.9.96-2, there were quite a number of "built in" templates for use with OOo Impress. What has happened to them? Is it something OOo has done or an oversight when building the package by RH? TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 From dberkley at yahoo.com Tue May 3 23:59:56 2005 From: dberkley at yahoo.com (David Berkley) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC4T2 Firestarter failure Message-ID: <20050503235956.74015.qmail@web41403.mail.yahoo.com> Fixed -- forgot to re-enable xhost. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverhead at comcast.net Wed May 4 00:48:36 2005 From: silverhead at comcast.net (James W. Bennett) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:48:36 -0500 Subject: Fedora 3 Grub problem Message-ID: <42781BE4.5020006@comcast.net> On Fedora 3, grub fails during execution of linux rescue. The error I get is as follows: "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." This has worked in the past and my system is identically the same as before. Any ideas will be appreciated. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed May 4 00:50:36 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 01:50:36 +0100 Subject: OOo fonts gone? Message-ID: <1115167836.10253.35.camel@localhost> Hi, For some reason, OOo is only listing something like 20 fonts from the font drop down box in v1.9.96-2. In previous versions, it was listing around 50 fonts. Is anyone else seeing this before I put it into bugzilla or is it an x-org problem whereby fonts have vanished? TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From byte at aeon.com.my Wed May 4 01:43:42 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:43:42 +1000 Subject: Fortune Program -Moving->RE: Wanda is broken In-Reply-To: <1114271548.6273.36.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1114271548.6273.36.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <1115171022.14607.11.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Sat, 2005-04-23 at 17:52 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > historic reasons; some of the fortune quotes were not seen as > politically correct or even offensive for some users/customers, and > people somehow get really upset by that. (Remember the treads about > that > screen saver that made shapes that someone "recognized" as being one > of > his body parts; things like this get people really upset and thus the > alternative to not shipping fortune is shipping it but vetting every > single fortune text as seen from several different cultures) Actually, with xscreensaver, we patch out webcollage (and possibly others). This would be an ideal package to sit in Extras or something to provide for it -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From alan at redhat.com Wed May 4 01:55:28 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:55:28 -0400 Subject: FC4T2 VPN failure In-Reply-To: <20050503233802.27959.qmail@web41402.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050503233802.27959.qmail@web41402.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050504015528.GA28252@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 04:38:02PM -0700, David Berkley wrote: > magic number) in FC4. All authentication data appears > correct (username, password) but magic number doesn't > check with server. > > I see no bugzilla filing about this but have no idea > what type of problem this could be filed as. First guess would be compiler. Although there is a saying that "the first error in blaming the compiler is blaming the compiler" gcc 4.0 is fairly new so it could be a compiler problem. Try with optimisation disabled, if that works turn on -Wall and also check for any uninitialised or mis-typed variables because gcc4 will produce different results for those errors sometimes. Alan From chrisw01 at privatei.com Wed May 4 03:37:59 2005 From: chrisw01 at privatei.com (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:37:59 -0600 Subject: Rawhide dep issue with struts11 In-Reply-To: <200505031035.40514.czar@czarc.net> References: <1115126743.15207.6.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> <200505031035.40514.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1115177879.25580.8.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 10:35 -0400, Gene C. wrote: > On Tuesday 03 May 2005 09:25, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > Anyone else seen this? I've been lurking and thinking this would resolve > > itself in time, but so far with continued rawhide refreshes, but I've > > been having this problem for the last week or so. Output from yum -y > > update: > > > > Setting up Update Process > > Setting up repositories > > development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB > > 00:00 > > extras-development 100% |=========================| 951 B > > 00:00 > > Error: Missing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc is needed by package > > struts11-webapps-tomcat5 > > > > You can obviously get around this with a --exclude=struts11 option, but > > I'm curious if I'm the only one seeing this. > > > > Shall I Bugzilla this or just wait patiently just a little longer? > > I hit this problem a while ago and believe there is something in the mail > archives about it. > > Anyway, struts11-webapps-tomcat5 has been deleted from the distribution. > Delete this package and the rest of struts11 will update OK (or delete all of > struts11 and install it fresh from the archives which will do the same > thing). Thanks - That (deleting struts11-webapps-tomcat5) fixed it. Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom From lists at sapience.com Wed May 4 03:54:11 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 23:54:11 -0400 Subject: kernel-smp 1276 does not boot (nor 1284) In-Reply-To: <20050502032537.GA4318@sapience.com> References: <20050502032537.GA4318@sapience.com> Message-ID: <20050504035411.GA4362@sapience.com> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:25:37PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > > All was well up to 1268 - starting with 1275 and 1276 > the smp kernel fails to boot - it hangs here: > > Mounting root filesystem > kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds > EXT3-fs: mounted filesystems with ordered data mode > Switching to new root. > > Then it just hangs. No more info Same problem with kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.1284_FC4 from http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4 Filed : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156664 Last smp kernel that works is 1268. g/ > From ivg2 at cornell.edu Wed May 4 06:25:23 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 02:25:23 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts Message-ID: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> I use NameVirtualHosts...but whenever I set them to *:80 as opposed to 192.168.2.105:80 they stop working. Why is that? Anyone having the same problem? -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Wed May 4 08:04:11 2005 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:04:11 +0100 Subject: Problem with cgi scripts after update Message-ID: <1115193854.3540.2.camel@datacc> I have just updated from FC3 to test2 Now none of my perl/cgi/postgres scripts work I get messages to the effect of [Wed May 04 08:56:02 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: syntax error at or near "$1" at character 1, referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/con_by_role_sel1.pl [Wed May 04 08:56:02 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] DBD::Pg::st fetchrow_array failed: no statement executing, referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/con_by_role_sel1.pl [Wed May 04 08:56:02 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Use of uninitialized value in print at /home/www/cgi-bin/con_by_role_sel2.pl line 19., referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/con_by_role_sel1.pl [Wed May 04 08:56:02 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: syntax error at or near "$1" at character 1, referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/con_by_role_sel1.pl [Wed May 04 08:56:02 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] DBD::Pg::st fetchrow_array failed: no statement executing, referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/con_by_role_sel1.pl (I was running pg v8 previously) any ideas From peter.backlund at gmail.com Wed May 4 09:59:56 2005 From: peter.backlund at gmail.com (Peter Backlund) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:59:56 +0200 Subject: Crappy fonts In-Reply-To: <1114970438.4159.25.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <426FC7FC.1020502@earthlink.net> <1114637704.3380.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114970438.4159.25.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1115200796.18426.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> s?n 2005-05-01 klockan 11:00 -0700 skrev Michael A. Peters: > On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 23:35 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > > My fonts are just fine - every bit as good as FC3. I have not changed lang. > > > > > > I tested konsole (not kconsole) and they look fine there. > > > > > > Gerry > > > > Could it be some kind of antialias he has turned on for fc3 but not fc4? > > > > My fonts changed after installing sun java 1.5 (using jPackage) - and > they are uglified, I'm not sure what caused it. On my laptop the same > thing did NOT happen when installing the jpackage Sun Java rpm's - so I > don't know what to think. But one day, they were the same defaults as > what I have on FC3, I install Java, and then they are weird. I wonder if > the font cache got screwed up or something. The jpackage "-fonts" subpackage installs Lucida Unicode sans as default sans serif font. Uninstall that package, and you are back to normal. /Peter From arjanv at redhat.com Wed May 4 11:04:05 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 07:04:05 -0400 Subject: FC4T2 VPN failure In-Reply-To: <20050504015528.GA28252@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20050503233802.27959.qmail@web41402.mail.yahoo.com> <20050504015528.GA28252@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115204645.6418.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 21:55 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 04:38:02PM -0700, David Berkley wrote: > > magic number) in FC4. All authentication data appears > > correct (username, password) but magic number doesn't > > check with server. > > > > I see no bugzilla filing about this but have no idea > > what type of problem this could be filed as. > > First guess would be compiler. Although there is a saying that "the first > error in blaming the compiler is blaming the compiler" gcc 4.0 is fairly new > so it could be a compiler problem. > > Try with optimisation disabled, if that works turn on -Wall and also check for > any uninitialised or mis-typed variables because gcc4 will produce different > results for those errors sometimes. another big one is aliasing; gcc4 optimizes a lot more agressive in that area and has found several bugs already in other apps -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Wed May 4 11:13:11 2005 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 07:13:11 -0400 Subject: Is there any interest in GRID computing? References: <200505031458.j43Ew05g026313@mx3.redhat.com> <20050503150223.GA25790@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:57:56AM -0500, Dwaine Castle wrote: >> Would Fedora developers be interested in experimenting with GRID >> computing? > > Sure. What do you have in mind? > Globus just released a major update. I wonder if this would be of interest. From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed May 4 11:31:33 2005 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: a couple suggestions for fedora web page for test releases Message-ID: for easier access to potentially useful info, can i make a couple suggestions regarding the fedora web pages, particularly when it comes to test releases? regarding http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ i'm pretty sure there's precious little value in the bottom half of that page -- the schedules for previous FC releases. (if people really need to know that stuff for posterity, a "history" page might be appropriate.) and replacing the historical info, how about links like: "Where to download" "Release notes" "Current package list" "Breaking news for this test release!" and so on. when a new test release comes out, it would be kinda nice to have all the relevant info linked from a single place, rather than having to hunt for it. rday From buildsys at redhat.com Wed May 4 12:15:12 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:15:12 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050504 changes Message-ID: <200505041215.j44CFC3t000449@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: GFS-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050503.144108.FC4.1 ----------------------------------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Chris Feist - Build new sources and remove patch. HelixPlayer-1:1.0.4-4 --------------------- * Tue May 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 1:1.0.4-4 - remove compat-gcc32 requirement alsa-lib-1.0.9rc2-3 ------------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Martin Stransky 1.0.9rc2-3 - fixed ainit (#156278, #156505) * Thu Apr 28 2005 David Woodhouse 1.0.9rc2-2 - Fix bogus use of fgetc() in ainit. (#156278) anaconda-10.2.0.59-1 -------------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Jeremy Katz - 10.2.0.59-1 - Try to use the fb res on pmac - Always reset terminal attrs on ppc (notting, #156411) - Remove bogus preexisting LVM info when doing kickstart installs (clumens, #156283) ant-0:1.6.2-3jpp_5fc -------------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 Gary Benson 0:1.6.2-3jpp_5fc - BC-compile the two core jars. - Own /usr/share/java/ant. * Fri Apr 08 2005 Andrew Overholt 0:1.6.2-3jpp_4fc - Back out ant-apache-javac-ecj.patch and ant.orig changes as they stop eclipse from building. * Tue Mar 29 2005 Gary Benson 0:1.6.2-3jpp_3fc - Add NOTICE file as per Apache License version 2.0. - Remove some now unnecessary gcj workarounds. - Add the jsch subpackage since we now ship jsch. audit-0.7.3-2 ------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Steve Grubb 0.7.3-1 - Add code to get watch list to auditctl - Get -f & -hn working in ausearch - Added search by terminal, exe, and syscall to ausearch program - Added -w parameter to match whole word in ausearch * Wed Apr 27 2005 Steve Grubb 0.7.2-1 - Allow ausearch uid & gid to be non-numeric (root, wheel, etc) - Fix problems with changing run level - Added new code for logging shutdown reason credentials - Update DAEMON messages to use better timestamp bluez-utils-2.15-7 ------------------ * Mon May 02 2005 David Woodhouse 2.15-7 - Run hidd by default (#155831) * Mon May 02 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 2.15-6 - Add missing backslashes to init script descriptions (#154494, patch by Ville Skytt??) dbus-0.33-2 ----------- * Sun May 01 2005 John (J5) Palmieri - 0.33-2 - Backport patch from CVS that fixes int32's being marshaled as uint16's in the python bindings dhcp-10:3.0.2-12 ---------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Jason Vas Dias 10:3.0.2-12 - Rebuild for new glibc - Fix dhcdbd set for multiple interfaces dosfstools-2.10-3 ----------------- * Thu Apr 28 2005 Peter Vrabec 2.10-3 - if HDIO_GETGEO fails, print a warning and default to H=255,S=63 (#155950) e2fsprogs-1.37-3 ---------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Jeremy Katz - 1.37-3 - fix cramfs detection bug in libblkid eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M6.14 -------------------------- * Mon May 02 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.14 - Replace temporary patch to debug.ui with upstream patch to swt (rh#155853). * Sat Apr 30 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.13 - Add patch to temporarily stop an NPE in debug.ui (rh#155853). * Thu Apr 28 2005 Phil Muldoon - Allow multiple optional arguments in eclipse-copy-platform.sh eclipse-bugzilla-1:0.1.0_fc-14 ------------------------------ * Mon May 02 2005 Jeff Pound 0.1.0_fc-14 - Fix default bugzilla.redhat.com url. evolution-2.2.2-3 ----------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-3 - updated mozilla_build_version to 1.7.7 * Sat Apr 30 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-2 - Finished porting conduits to pilot-link-0.12 API; re-enabled pilot support (#152172) foomatic-3.0.2-19 ----------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Tim Waugh 3.0.2-19 - Add IEEE 1284 ID for Epson Stylus CX5400 (bug #156661). * Tue Apr 12 2005 Tim Waugh - Fix Postscript driver (bug #151645). - Add IEEE 1284 ID for HP DeskJet 5150 (bug #154518). - Add IEEE 1284 ID for HP LaserJet 2420 (bug #114191). * Thu Mar 24 2005 Tim Waugh - Add a hook to remove any foomatic data cached by system-config-printer. gdb-6.3.0.0-1.21 ---------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Jeff Johnston 6.3.0.0-1.21 - Bump up release number. * Tue May 03 2005 Jeff Johnston 6.3.0.0-1.20 - Bump up release number. * Tue May 03 2005 Jeff Johnston 6.3.0.0-1.19 - Fix for partial die in cache error - Bugzilla 137904 gdm-1:2.6.0.8-12 ---------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Ray Strode 1:2.6.0.8-12 - Fix processing of non-ascii characters that got broken in 2.6.0.8-11, found by Miloslav Trmac , (bug 156590). gjdoc-0.7.4-4 ------------- * Thu Apr 28 2005 Andrew Overholt 0.7.4-4 - Add patches to ignore option case and deal with some error cases (Julian Scheid). gnome-media-2.10.2-1 -------------------- * Mon May 02 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 2.10.2-1 - Update to 2.10.2 gnome-panel-2.10.1-8 -------------------- * Mon May 02 2005 Mark McLoughlin 2.10.1-8 - Update to new OpenOffice.org .desktop file locations in openoffice.org-1.9.97-3 (bug #156064) * Wed Apr 27 2005 Mark McLoughlin - 2.10.1-7 - Add patch to clamp the size of the icons on the panel at 48x48. Fixes "moved the panel to the side, can't move it back" issue (rh #141743) * Wed Apr 27 2005 Mark McLoughlin 2.10.1-6 - Reference the OpenOffice.org Impress .desktop file correctly gnome-pilot-2.0.13-2 -------------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 David Malcolm - 2.0.13-2 - move .desktop file from /usr/share/control-center-2.0/capplets to /usr/share/applications (#149228) gnome-vfs2-2.10.0-5 ------------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 David Zeuthen 2.10.0-5 - Tweak the patch a bit so it applies * Fri Apr 29 2005 David Zeuthen 2.10.0-4 - Make local neon copy support gssapi correctly (#150132) gnupg-1.4.1-2 ------------- * Thu Apr 28 2005 Nalin Dahyabhai 1.4.1-2 - add -Wa,--noexecstack back to CFLAGS when invoking configure, the --enable-noexecstack flag only seems to affect asm modules gnutls-1.0.25-1 --------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 Tomas Mraz 1.0.25-1 - new upstream version fixes potential DOS attack gstreamer-0.8.10-1 ------------------ * Tue May 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.8.10-1 - Update to upstream 0.8.10 * Thu Mar 17 2005 Colin Walters 0.8.9-4 - Rebuild to make it through beehive * Thu Mar 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.8.9-3 - add gstreamer-0.8.9-cast-fix.patch which casts the variable before sending it into the macro - update openjade hack to refrence xml-dtd-4.2-1.0-26 jwhois-3.2.2-14 --------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 3.2.2-14 - Add an AfriNIC range (#156178) kernel-2.6.11-1.1284_FC4 ------------------------ * Tue May 03 2005 Dave Jones - Disable usbmon/debugfs again for now until SELinux policy is fixed. * Mon May 02 2005 David Woodhouse - Make kallsyms include platform-specific symbols - Fix might_sleep warning in pbook clock-spreading fix libgnomeprint22-2.10.1-3 ------------------------ * Fri Apr 29 2005 John (J5) Palmieri - 2.10.1-3 - Added patch to make sure glyphs are layed out right (Bug #154939) libgtop2-2.10.1-1 ----------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 David Zeuthen - 2.10.1-1 - New upstream version (#155188) * Fri Mar 18 2005 David Zeuthen - 2.10.0-2 - Rebuilt * Fri Mar 18 2005 David Zeuthen - 2.10.0-1 - Even newer upstream version libuser-0.53.7-1 ---------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 0.53.7-1 - Rebuild with updated translations, add missing translations. libwpd-0.8.1-1 -------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 Caolan McNamara 0.8.1-1 - bump to latest version kudos Fridrich Strba - drop integrated patch mkinitrd-4.2.10-1 ----------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Peter Jones - 4.2.10-1 - set umask explicitly mod_jk-0:1.2.6-3jpp_2fc ----------------------- * Thu Apr 28 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.2.6-3jpp_2fc - Actually build more than just an empty debuginfo package (#151415). mx4j-1:2.1.0-1jpp_5fc --------------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 Gary Benson 0:2.1.0-1jpp_5fc - BC-compile the combined jarfile. pam-0.79-8 ---------- * Mon May 02 2005 Tomas Mraz 0.79-8 - pam_console: support loading .perms files in the console.perms.d (#156069) patch-2.5.4-23 -------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 Tim Waugh 2.5.4-23 - Applied patch from Toshio Kuratomi to avoid problems with DOS-format newlines (bug #154283). * Wed Mar 02 2005 Tim Waugh 2.5.4-22 - Rebuild for new GCC. * Wed Feb 09 2005 Tim Waugh 2.5.4-21 - Rebuilt. perl-Frontier-RPC-0.06-39 ------------------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 Jose Pedro Oliveira - 0.06-39 - Source URL: using the Comprehensive Perl Arcana Society Tapestry address (Frontier::RPC version 0.06 no longer available in CPAN mirrors). - spec cleanup (#156480) policycoreutils-1.23.6-2 ------------------------ * Fri Apr 29 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.6-2 - Change -f flag in fixfiles to remove stuff from /tmp - Change -F flag to pass -F flag to restorecon/fixfiles. (IE Force relabel). qt-1:3.3.4-12 ------------- * Thu Apr 14 2005 Than Ngo 1:3.3.4-12 - fix bad symlink #154086 redhat-artwork-0.122-5 ---------------------- * Tue May 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-5 - Add a symlink for ftp share icons rpm-4.4.1-17 ------------ * Tue May 03 2005 Paul Nasrat - 4.4.1-17 - Fix typo * Tue May 03 2005 Paul Nasrat - 4.4.1-16 - Yet more matchpathcon * Tue May 03 2005 Paul Nasrat - 4.4.1-15 - Some more matchpathcon work shadow-utils-2:4.0.7-7 ---------------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 Jeremy Katz - 2:4.0.7-7 - don't assume selinux is enabled if is_selinux_enabled() returns -1 * Mon Apr 18 2005 Peter Vrabec 2:4.0.7-6 - fix chage -l option (#109499, #137498) * Mon Apr 04 2005 Peter Vrabec 2:4.0.7-5 - fix memory leak, and CPU spinning when grp_update() and duplicate group entries in /etc/group (#151484) tcpdump-14:3.8.2-12 ------------------- * Thu Apr 28 2005 Martin Stransky - 14:3.8.2-12 - fix for CAN-2005-1280 Multiple DoS issues in tcpdump (CAN-2005-1279 CAN-2005-1278), #156041 tzdata-2005i-2 -------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 Jakub Jelinek 2005i-2 - 2005i - updates for Iran, Haiti and Nicaragua util-linux-2.12p-9.3 -------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Jeremy Katz - 2.12p-9.3 - rebuild against new libe2fsprogs (and libblkid) to fix cramfs auto-detection * Mon May 02 2005 Karel Zak 2.12p-9.2 - rebuild * Mon May 02 2005 Karel Zak 2.12p-9 - fix #156597 - look - doesn't work with separators vte-0.11.13-1.fc4 ----------------- * Thu Apr 28 2005 Warren Togami 0.11.13-1 - 0.11.13, all patches are now upstream words-3.0-7 ----------- * Mon May 02 2005 Karel Zak 3-7 - sort with --dictionary-order - remove words with possessives ('s) xerces-j2-0:2.6.2-4jpp_4fc -------------------------- * Fri Apr 29 2005 Gary Benson 0:2.6.2-4jpp_4fc - BC-compile. xorg-x11-6.8.2-30 ----------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-30 - Disabled xfs.init-fc4-startearly.patch as it breaks systems that /usr is on NFS. (FC4Blocker #156413) xscreensaver-1:4.21-2 --------------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Ray Strode 1:4.21-2 - Use absolute filenames for screenhacks so we don't pull in screenhacks from PATH (bug 151677). - Don't try to ping in sonar screensaver (bug 139692). From kyrre at solution-forge.net Wed May 4 12:26:58 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:26:58 +0200 Subject: a couple suggestions for fedora web page for test releases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115209617.3348.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> ons, 04.05.2005 kl. 13.31 skrev Robert P. J. Day: > for easier access to potentially useful info, can i make a couple > suggestions regarding the fedora web pages, particularly when it comes > to test releases? > > regarding > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > > i'm pretty sure there's precious little value in the bottom half of > that page -- the schedules for previous FC releases. (if people > really need to know that stuff for posterity, a "history" page might > be appropriate.) > > and replacing the historical info, how about links like: > > "Where to download" > "Release notes" > "Current package list" > "Breaking news for this test release!" > > and so on. when a new test release comes out, it would be kinda nice > to have all the relevant info linked from a single place, rather than > having to hunt for it. > Having "how to install rawhide" in that place would also be usefull. From rpjday at mindspring.com Wed May 4 12:44:40 2005 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: a couple suggestions for fedora web page for test releases In-Reply-To: <1115209617.3348.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115209617.3348.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 May 2005, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > ons, 04.05.2005 kl. 13.31 skrev Robert P. J. Day: > > for easier access to potentially useful info, can i make a couple > > suggestions regarding the fedora web pages, particularly when it comes > > to test releases? > > > > regarding > > > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > > > > i'm pretty sure there's precious little value in the bottom half of > > that page -- the schedules for previous FC releases. (if people > > really need to know that stuff for posterity, a "history" page might > > be appropriate.) > > > > and replacing the historical info, how about links like: > > > > "Where to download" > > "Release notes" > > "Current package list" > > "Breaking news for this test release!" > > > > and so on. when a new test release comes out, it would be kinda nice > > to have all the relevant info linked from a single place, rather than > > having to hunt for it. > Having "how to install rawhide" in that place would also be usefull. i could properly see that as a sub-topic under "Where to download/How to get/How to install" or something like that, with all of the variations documented there. at the moment, however, there's just too much stuff closely-related stuff scattered across more than one page. the schedule for test releases is under "Participate->Schedule", while getting a test release is under "Download->Test Releases". given that messing with test releases is a specialized subject, i think everything related to that topic should be in one place. and i'm willing to bet that would cut down on the number of common questions. what about something like Test Releases What is a test release? Danger, danger ... etc, etc. ... might eat all of the cheese in your house ... The schedule for test releases How to install a test release Variations here, including rawhide Keeping up to date with test updates Appropriate yum.conf entries for a test release Mailing list for test releases NO, do not use the standard fedora mailing list ... FAQ for test releases Current test version and package list or whatever. just thinking out loud. rday From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 4 14:07:49 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:07:49 -0400 Subject: a couple suggestions for fedora web page for test releases In-Reply-To: References: <1115209617.3348.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa791050504070768299e76@mail.gmail.com> On 5/4/05, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i could properly see that as a sub-topic under "Where to download/How > to get/How to install" or something like that, with all of the > variations documented there. Just a somewhat static link back to http://fedora.redhat.com/download/test.html is the only thing the schedule page needs. All the other potential channges additions should be on the http://fedora.redhat.com/download/test.html page. > > at the moment, however, there's just too much stuff closely-related > stuff scattered across more than one page. the schedule for test > releases is under "Participate->Schedule", while getting a test > release is under "Download->Test Releases". Fine.. then just link to the test release from the schedule. The schedule is what it is... its not meant to be a walk-through of that what and wheres of test release installation. > given that messing with test releases is a specialized subject, i > think everything related to that topic should be in one place. I dont think so. I think the schedule serves exactly one purpose... to provide a schedule. Really clever people will configure their calendering clients with the provided .ics file and never have to go back to that schedule page ever again. > Test Releases > What is a test release? > Danger, danger ... etc, etc. ... might eat all of the > cheese in your house ... > The schedule for test releases > How to install a test release > Variations here, including rawhide > Keeping up to date with test updates > Appropriate yum.conf entries for a test release > Mailing list for test releases > NO, do not use the standard fedora mailing list ... The fedora project webpage are not dynamically managed with a CMS 'yet'. Until it is, duplicating information across pages add fragility and increases the chances that some information will get updated and some will not, when pages need to be reworked. Simply cross link the schedule from the test release page and link the test release page on the schedule. Everything so far in that list except the schedule is fodder for the test release download page in the download section. Simply crosslink the two pages and be done with it. If testers using the webpages can't follow html links to a schedule or to the test release download page... I highly doubt they are going to be able to handle filing useful bugreports. I think every effort to re-oganize the test release information should center on the question on how to get higher quality bugreports generated from reporters who are willing to followup. I don't think making it extremely easy and convient for anyone interested in downloading and installing a test release is necessarily helpful to the overall goal of testing. Since it requires 'thought' to file a bugreport and followup on it... I'm perfectly fine with test release webpages that require a minimum of 'thought' as well. For example installing directly from rawhide can be a huge pain in the ass, depending on what rawhide looks on the day you attempt it. This is not something novice testers should be encouraged to try with a simple blurb on an introductory webpage when they don't have a competent understanding of what rawhide 'feels' like. Advertising 'features' like that on a page meant for first time or novice test release users is either going to give them a really bad taste in their mouth or worse result in an avalache of pointless bugreports about rawhide installs not working. > FAQ for test releases Depending on what you want for FAQ items this is either impossible or just something someone needs to hack together and submit for review. If you want items that you expect to add or update every week as specific test issues arise, thats totally not going to happen, unless the site goes to a CMS backend and can allow outside contributors to attempt keep up with pages. This is a really manpower intensive issue for test releases. The landscape as to problems and solutions changes significantly everyday because of the rawhide churn. I don't see how anyone is going to keep up with communicating 'breaking news' or 'frequently asked questions' that are test release specific with how the site is generated currently. And even after the site goes CMS, you are still going to be swapped with trying to keep up with daily package churn brokenness. At best right now, the questions you can address are process questions that would remain rather static and not questions that you expect to update answers for from test1 to test2 to test3. > Current test version and package list Just point people to the os/ tree on a mirror AND the rawhide tree. I'm really not sure why we need to waste time prettying up the packagelist for test releases as a new url location, especially since packages expire between test releases. If you are really interested in the package list issue as it developers you really need to watch rawhide and the rawhide build reports. -jef From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 4 14:36:18 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:36:18 -0500 Subject: OOo fonts gone? In-Reply-To: <1115167836.10253.35.camel@localhost> References: <1115167836.10253.35.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4278DDE2.6010001@earthlink.net> Paul wrote: >Hi, > >For some reason, OOo is only listing something like 20 fonts from the >font drop down box in v1.9.96-2. In previous versions, it was listing >around 50 fonts. > >Is anyone else seeing this before I put it into bugzilla or is it an >x-org problem whereby fonts have vanished? > >TTFN > >Paul > > I see a similar thing. I have only 16 fonts in OOo, but 43 in gedit for example. Sounds like you should put it in bugzilla. Gerry From mricon at gmail.com Wed May 4 15:21:56 2005 From: mricon at gmail.com (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:21:56 -0400 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 Message-ID: Hello: I cannot boot my system with the newest kernel. It gets to the first stages of init and then hangs trying to start udev: Starting udev: MAKEDEV: mkdir: File exists Initializing hardware . . . and then nothing, only cold reboot to previous kernels works. AMD 2600+, SELinux in targeted mode. Regards, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev Zlotniks, INC From roger at gwch.net Wed May 4 15:31:04 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:31:04 +0200 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4278EAB8.6040807@gwch.net> Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > Hello: > > I cannot boot my system with the newest kernel. It gets to the first > stages of init and then hangs trying to start udev: > > Starting udev: MAKEDEV: mkdir: File exists > Initializing hardware . . . > > and then nothing, only cold reboot to previous kernels works. > > AMD 2600+, SELinux in targeted mode. > > Regards, i have the same, getting those messages before: error mknod: /dev/null:17 error mknod: /dev/zero:17 i rebooted and gave selinux=0 (disabled) and the system booted very well. Seems, there is something with the latest selinux-policies. Roger From roger at gwch.net Wed May 4 15:38:57 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:38:57 +0200 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 In-Reply-To: <4278EAB8.6040807@gwch.net> References: <4278EAB8.6040807@gwch.net> Message-ID: <4278EC91.8070400@gwch.net> Roger Grosswiler wrote: > Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I cannot boot my system with the newest kernel. It gets to the first >> stages of init and then hangs trying to start udev: >> >> Starting udev: MAKEDEV: mkdir: File exists >> Initializing hardware . . . >> >> and then nothing, only cold reboot to previous kernels works. >> >> AMD 2600+, SELinux in targeted mode. >> >> Regards, > > i have the same, getting those messages before: > > error mknod: /dev/null:17 > error mknod: /dev/zero:17 > > i rebooted and gave selinux=0 (disabled) and the system booted very > well. Seems, there is something with the latest selinux-policies. > > Roger > btw. but older kernels do boot fine with the new policy... Roger From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Wed May 4 15:38:20 2005 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:38:20 -0400 Subject: preferred setup for software raid installation Message-ID: I am about to try a new FC4T2 installation. I want to setup using a pair of ATA disks, using raid0. What would be the preferred way to get FC4T2 to install this way? 1) Partition before trying to install 2) Partition using anaconda Also, which is more likely to be recognized by anaconda? 1) lvm on md 2) lvm without md From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 4 15:46:26 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:26 -0500 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4278EE52.3020707@earthlink.net> Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: >Hello: > >I cannot boot my system with the newest kernel. It gets to the first >stages of init and then hangs trying to start udev: > >Starting udev: MAKEDEV: mkdir: File exists >Initializing hardware . . . > >and then nothing, only cold reboot to previous kernels works. > >AMD 2600+, SELinux in targeted mode. > >Regards, > > I had the same thing, and after that I could no longer boot to my FC3 partition either! I can boot to the previous FC4T2 kernel. I'm really curious what happened to FC3. Gerry From dano01sk at hotmail.com Wed May 4 15:56:32 2005 From: dano01sk at hotmail.com (Dano) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:56:32 +0200 Subject: i875P RAID0 Message-ID: Nice day ... could somebody write, how to install fedore core ... (or any boot parameters for kernel, test release 3.91, Fedora Core 4 test 2), because the error is, that drive sdb (not sure) is unreadble. Motherboard Intel Bonanza 875 PBZ, RAID 0 + 2x S-ATA 150 80GB. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpa4email at rogers.com Wed May 4 16:13:48 2005 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:13:48 -0400 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 In-Reply-To: <4278EAB8.6040807@gwch.net> References: <4278EAB8.6040807@gwch.net> Message-ID: <1115223228.3101.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 17:31 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > error mknod: /dev/null:17 > error mknod: /dev/zero:17 I have had this with the past two kernels plus error mknod: /dev/console:17 Robert. From greenrd at presidium.org Wed May 4 17:03:02 2005 From: greenrd at presidium.org (Robin Green) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:03:02 +0100 Subject: preferred setup for software raid installation References: Message-ID: On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:38:20 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > I am about to try a new FC4T2 installation. I want to setup using a pair of > ATA disks, using raid0. What would be the preferred way to get FC4T2 to > install this way? > > 1) Partition before trying to install > > 2) Partition using anaconda Anaconda should be able to set up raid for you, if you choose manual partitioning. > Also, which is more likely to be recognized by anaconda? > > 1) lvm on md > 2) lvm without md Anaconda recognises both, in my experience. -- Robin From greenrd at presidium.org Wed May 4 17:19:54 2005 From: greenrd at presidium.org (Robin Green) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:19:54 +0100 Subject: Booting problem from last week References: <1115159928.10253.21.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:38:48 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I did an update to the machine at work which included the broken version > of init-tools (IIRC) which means that booting may not work (which it > doesn't at work). > > Is there any way to rescue said system? I know on the laptop I did it by > using RIP Linux, chroot /mnt/linux and chkconfig the clamav stuff which > seemed to be annoying the system. First things first: You don't necessarily always need to go to the trouble of finding/downloading/burning a rescue CD in order to rescue a system. In the case of a misbehaving clamav, that is a network service, so it should be coming up in runlevel 3. That means that if at bootup time you press 'a' at the grub bootup screen and then add "single" to the kernel command line, it will drop you into single-user mode (fedora core doesn't even ask for a root password for this, last I tried it!) and you can rescue the system from there. In single-user mode all non-network partitions should be mounted just as in a normal system (unless of course there's a mount problem). > Problem is with the box at work is the crash occurs at the end of > discovering and allocating PID values to network connectors and I've no > idea what service controls that or how to switch it off so I can at > least boot and manually fix the problems. OK, you can look at the bootup processes as a tree. grub calls the kernel. The kernel then starts the first process, which is called init. init looks in the file /etc/inittab, which contains the top-level instructions on how to boot up the system. (Usually inittab doesn't need to be mucked with, unless you need to change the default runlevel, or (un)install some very unusual software.) Then /etc/inittab refers to a file called /etc/rc.sysinit, which does all the basic bootup tasks before starting the services, and then calling /etc/rc.local, which is the last thing to be run before login starts. That really defines the parameters of your search. So I would have a look through /etc/rc.sysinit for any mention of the "allocating PID values to network connectors" message that you are seeing, or whatever it is. Failing that, just search through all files in /etc for the message - won't take long. Make sure you get the message exactly right, no spelling mistakes! Here is a sample command to do the search: grep -r 'allocating PID values' /etc If not, that message might be outtputted by a binary command, so try searching for the previous message, until you find something. HTH, -- Robin From tony at tgds.net Wed May 4 17:42:44 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:42:44 +0200 Subject: custom kernel 2.6.11.8 Message-ID: <1115228565.3014.38.camel@hush> Hi I am having an odd problem when trying to build a 2.6.11.x kernel for my EPIA M10000 N. It has EPIA specific stuff set and DVB-S modules. I really need to get DRM/DRI working ASAP. When it gets to I2C it gives this error: CC drivers/i2c/i2c-core.o In file included from drivers/i2c/i2c-core.c:29: include/linux/i2c.h:58: erreur: les ?l?ments du tableau sont de type incomplet include/linux/i2c.h:197: erreur: les ?l?ments du tableau sont de type incomplet drivers/i2c/i2c-core.c: In function ?i2c_transfer?: drivers/i2c/i2c-core.c:594: erreur: le type du param?tre formel 2 est incomplet drivers/i2c/i2c-core.c: In function ?i2c_master_send?: drivers/i2c/i2c-core.c:620: erreur: le type du param?tre formel 2 est incomplet drivers/i2c/i2c-core.c: In function ?i2c_master_recv?: drivers/i2c/i2c-core.c:649: erreur: le type du param?tre formel 2 est incomplet make[2]: *** [drivers/i2c/i2c-core.o] Erreur 1 make[1]: *** [drivers/i2c] Erreur 2 make: *** [drivers] Erreur 2 TIA Tony From RouillardSy at yahoo.fr Wed May 4 17:57:12 2005 From: RouillardSy at yahoo.fr (Sylvain Rouillard) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:57:12 +0200 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505041957.12715.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> Same for the x86_64 one. Le Mercredi 4 Mai 2005 17:21, Konstantin Ryabitsev a ?crit?: > Hello: > > I cannot boot my system with the newest kernel. It gets to the first > stages of init and then hangs trying to start udev: > > Starting udev: MAKEDEV: mkdir: File exists > Initializing hardware . . . > > and then nothing, only cold reboot to previous kernels works. > > AMD 2600+, SELinux in targeted mode. > > Regards, > -- > Konstantin Ryabitsev > Zlotniks, INC From jkeating at j2solutions.net Wed May 4 18:54:50 2005 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:54:50 -0700 Subject: i875P RAID0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115232890.28515.29.camel@jkeating2.hq.pogolinux.com> On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 17:56 +0200, Dano wrote: > could somebody write, how to install fedore core ... (or any boot > parameters for kernel, test release 3.91, Fedora Core 4 test 2), > because the error is, that drive sdb (not sure) is unreadble. > Motherboard Intel Bonanza 875 PBZ, RAID 0 + 2x S-ATA 150 80GB. > Installing to winraid of onboard RAID controllers is not yet supported. Please try your install with a non-raid setup. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating From luya at jpopmail.com Wed May 4 20:31:04 2005 From: luya at jpopmail.com (luya at jpopmail.com) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:31:04 -0800 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 Message-ID: <20050504203104.CFBD523D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> > > > > I cannot boot my system with the newest kernel. It gets to the first > > stages of init and then hangs trying to start udev: > > > > Starting udev: MAKEDEV: mkdir: File exists > > Initializing hardware . . . > > > > and then nothing, only cold reboot to previous kernels works. > > > > AMD 2600+, SELinux in targeted mode. > > > > Regards, > > > > Same problem with the new kernel as well. -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.jp.popstarmail.org Powered by Outblaze From Fred.New at microlink.ee Wed May 4 21:40:50 2005 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 00:40:50 +0300 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18BE6257@eemail1.microlink.lan> On Wed 5/4/2005 11:31 PM, luya wrote: > > > > > > I cannot boot my system with the newest kernel. It gets to the first > > > stages of init and then hangs trying to start udev: > > > > > > Starting udev: MAKEDEV: mkdir: File exists > [ OK ] > > > Initializing hardware . . . > > > > > > and then nothing, only cold reboot to previous kernels works. > > > > > > AMD 2600+, SELinux in targeted mode. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Same problem with the new kernel as well. > This is happening on my Pentium III 800 system as well, so it seems to be pretty universal. I can turn the NumLock on and off, but Ctrl-Alt-Delete doesn't do anything. It was also reported in fedora-selinux-list: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-selinux-list/2005-May/msg00014.html Fred -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dwaine From a.kurtz at hardsun.net Thu May 5 03:00:01 2005 From: a.kurtz at hardsun.net (Aaron Kurtz) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:00:01 -0700 Subject: boot freezes at sata_sil In-Reply-To: <20050501211045.30681.qmail@webmail10.mesa1.secureserver.net> References: <20050501211045.30681.qmail@webmail10.mesa1.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1115262001.5245.19.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 14:10 -0700, BC wrote: > > Anyone know what is happening ? > > My boot of FC4 T2 freezes at loading sata_sil driver and I see > Disabling IRQ #11. I tried linux acpi=off noapic pci=noapic Do you have a SATA drive attached? If so, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=151332 and blame your motherboard maker for a buggy BIOS. -- Aaron Kurtz From mpeters at mac.com Thu May 5 04:13:38 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:13:38 -0700 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115266418.3148.15.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 11:21 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > Hello: > > I cannot boot my system with the newest kernel. It gets to the first > stages of init and then hangs trying to start udev: > > Starting udev: MAKEDEV: mkdir: File exists > Initializing hardware . . . I had this issue as well on my Thinkpad T20 - I opened a bugzilla this morning - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156860 The kernel works fine on my headless VIA box (Duron 1.6GHz) The kernel works fine on my nforce2 box (Athlon XP 2700+) The kernel does not work on my Thinkpad T20 (PIII 700MHz) Those who have an issue should probably put their boot arguements and /sbin/lspci info into the bugzilla, so that the problem can be identified and the kernel people can request info and feedback. From mattdm at mattdm.org Thu May 5 04:13:53 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 00:13:53 -0400 Subject: Is there any interest in GRID computing? In-Reply-To: <200505042349.j44Nn2eb002981@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200505042349.j44Nn2eb002981@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050505041353.GA563@jadzia.bu.edu> On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 06:48:59PM -0500, Dwaine Castle wrote: > I was thinking that if something like the Grid Toolkit came with Fedora > users could form a grid to help with software builds for example. Platforms > like Seti & Grid.org are enormous. I don't know how many Fedora testers This stuff would be *excellent* for Fedora Extras. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 77 degrees Fahrenheit. From generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp Thu May 5 07:17:29 2005 From: generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp (Namikawa, Shozo) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:17:29 +0900 Subject: rawhide report: 20050504 changes In-Reply-To: <200505041215.j44CFC3t000449@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505041215.j44CFC3t000449@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4279C889.3040905@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Stop gdm while hal failed, after rawhide report: 20050504 changes. Any rescue? "Server Authorization directory(daemon/ServAuthDir) is set to" "/var/gdm but this dose not exist. Please correct gdm" "configuration /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and restart gdm." From generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp Thu May 5 07:39:21 2005 From: generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp (Namikawa, Shozo) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:39:21 +0900 Subject: rawhide report: 20050504 changes In-Reply-To: <200505041215.j44CFC3t000449@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505041215.j44CFC3t000449@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4279CDA9.3050706@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Standing alone up2date libswt3-gtk2, happend IndexError: list index out of range, up2date libswt3-gtk2 with eclipse to OK as follow. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [root at localhost generic]# up2date "libswt3*" -snip- Fetching rpm headers... ######################################## Name Version Rel ---------------------------------------------------------- libswt3-gtk2 3.1.0_fc 0.M6.14 i386 Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... ######################################## libswt3-gtk2-3.1.0_fc-0.M6. ########################## Done. Error in sys.excepthook: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1231, in exceptionHandler log = up2dateLog.initLog() NameError: global name 'up2dateLog' is not defined Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1264, in ? sys.exit(main() or 0) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 799, in main fullUpdate, dryRun=options.dry_run)) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1136, in batchRun batch.run() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateBatch.py", line 87, in run self.__getPackages() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateBatch.py", line 168, in __getPackages up2date.getPackage(pkg, wrapperUtils.printPkg, wrapperUtils.printRetrieveHash) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2date.py", line 178, in getPackage buf = rpcServer.doCall(repos.getPackage, pkg, msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpcServer.py", line 309, in doCall ret = apply(method, args, kwargs) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 39, in getPackage return self.handlers[channel['type']].getPackage(pkg, msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 186, in getPackage package = source.getPackage(pkg, MsgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 124, in getPackage rpmPath = pkg[7] IndexError: list index out of range -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [root at localhost generic]# up2date "[le]*" -snip- Fetching rpm headers... ######################################## Name Version Rel ---------------------------------------------------------- eclipse-bugzilla 0.1.0_fc 14 i386 eclipse-ecj 3.1.0_fc 0.M6.14 i386 eclipse-jdt 3.1.0_fc 0.M6.14 i386 eclipse-jdt-devel 3.1.0_fc 0.M6.14 i386 eclipse-pde 3.1.0_fc 0.M6.14 i386 eclipse-pde-devel 3.1.0_fc 0.M6.14 i386 eclipse-platform 3.1.0_fc 0.M6.14 i386 eclipse-platform-devel 3.1.0_fc 0.M6.14 i386 libswt3-gtk2 3.1.0_fc 0.M6.14 i386 Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... ######################################## eclipse-bugzilla-0.1.0_fc-1 ########################## Done. eclipse-ecj-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.1 ########################## Done. eclipse-jdt-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.1 ########################## Done. eclipse-jdt-devel-3.1.0_fc- ########################## Done. eclipse-pde-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.1 ########################## Done. eclipse-pde-devel-3.1.0_fc- ########################## Done. eclipse-platform-3.1.0_fc-0 ########################## Done. eclipse-platform-devel-3.1. ########################## Done. libswt3-gtk2-3.1.0_fc-0.M6. ########################## Done. Preparing ########################################### [100%] warning: eclipse-ecj-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.14: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 30c9ecf8 Installing... 1:eclipse-ecj ########################################### [100%] 2:libswt3-gtk2 ########################################### [100%] 3:eclipse-platform ########################################### [100%] 4:eclipse-jdt ########################################### [100%] 5:eclipse-jdt-devel ########################################### [100%] 6:eclipse-platform-devel ########################################### [100%] 7:eclipse-pde ########################################### [100%] 8:eclipse-bugzilla ########################################### [100%] 9:eclipse-pde-devel ########################################### [100%] The following wildcards did not match any packages: [le]* [root at localhost generic]# -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tony at tgds.net Thu May 5 08:50:00 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 10:50:00 +0200 Subject: kernel source rpm won't build Message-ID: <1115283000.2911.6.camel@hush> I'm trying to build 2.6.11-1.1284_FC4 src rpm I really need to build a kernel that has no DRM and AGP so that I can build specific modules for VIA EPIA M. This is becoming urgent enough to make me want to give up on Fedora for my current project. Tony .config:562: trying to assign nonexistent symbol NETLINK_DEV .config:836: trying to assign nonexistent symbol ETHERTAP .config:2011: trying to assign nonexistent symbol USB_STORAGE_RW_DETECT .config:2042: trying to assign nonexistent symbol USB_HPUSBSCSI .config:2150: trying to assign nonexistent symbol USB_GADGET_SA1100 .config:2476: trying to assign nonexistent symbol NETDUMP CONFIG_PCI_DEBUG CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DELKIN CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IT821X CONFIG_SCSI_LPFC CONFIG_SERIAL_JSM CONFIG_SENSORS_LM92 CONFIG_SENSORS_DS1337 CONFIG_FB_S1D13XXX CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CP2101 make[1]: *** [nonint_oldconfig] Error 9 make: *** [nonint_oldconfig] Error 2 erreur: Mauvais status de sortie pour /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87550 (%prep) From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Thu May 5 09:01:18 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 05:01:18 -0400 Subject: kernel source rpm won't build In-Reply-To: <1115283000.2911.6.camel@hush> References: <1115283000.2911.6.camel@hush> Message-ID: <1115283678.8685.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 10:50 +0200, tony wrote: > I'm trying to build 2.6.11-1.1284_FC4 src rpm > > I really need to build a kernel that has no DRM and AGP so that I can > build specific modules for VIA EPIA M. This is becoming urgent enough to > make me want to give up on Fedora for my current project. > > Tony > .config:562: trying to assign nonexistent symbol NETLINK_DEV > .config:836: trying to assign nonexistent symbol ETHERTAP > .config:2011: trying to assign nonexistent symbol USB_STORAGE_RW_DETECT > .config:2042: trying to assign nonexistent symbol USB_HPUSBSCSI > .config:2150: trying to assign nonexistent symbol USB_GADGET_SA1100 > .config:2476: trying to assign nonexistent symbol NETDUMP Not an issue. Feel free to ignore. (IIRC) > CONFIG_PCI_DEBUG > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DELKIN > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IT821X > CONFIG_SCSI_LPFC > CONFIG_SERIAL_JSM > CONFIG_SENSORS_LM92 > CONFIG_SENSORS_DS1337 > CONFIG_FB_S1D13XXX > CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CP2101 Your .config file is missing values for these keys. Fix this then it should build. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at nodata.co.uk Thu May 5 09:39:53 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:39:53 +0200 Subject: a couple suggestions for fedora web page for test releases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115285993.3580.7.camel@sb-home.lan> On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 07:31 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > for easier access to potentially useful info, can i make a couple > suggestions regarding the fedora web pages, particularly when it comes > to test releases? > > regarding > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > > i'm pretty sure there's precious little value in the bottom half of > that page -- the schedules for previous FC releases. (if people > really need to know that stuff for posterity, a "history" page might > be appropriate.) > > and replacing the historical info, how about links like: > > "Where to download" > "Release notes" > "Current package list" > "Breaking news for this test release!" > > and so on. when a new test release comes out, it would be kinda nice > to have all the relevant info linked from a single place, rather than > having to hunt for it. > > rday > The url says schedule, so it should contain schedule information. The url above could point to the current schedule, with additions to point to previous schedules. e.g. fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule-fc3/ I'm not suggesting this url is much better, because we're still stuck with the "participate" bit, which probably doesn't belong in the url. If we ditched that, we might have fedora.redhat.com/fc3/schedule/ fedora.redhat.com/fc2/schedule/ fedora.redhat.com/schedule/ would point to current. Then we have the problem comparing releases.. but we don't really need to do that. From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu May 5 10:18:40 2005 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 06:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: a couple suggestions for fedora web page for test releases In-Reply-To: <1115285993.3580.7.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <1115285993.3580.7.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 May 2005, nodata wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 07:31 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ ... > The url says schedule, so it should contain schedule information. > The url above could point to the current schedule, with additions to > point to previous schedules. > > e.g. fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule-fc3/ > > I'm not suggesting this url is much better, because we're still stuck > with the "participate" bit, which probably doesn't belong in the url. > > If we ditched that, we might have > fedora.redhat.com/fc3/schedule/ > fedora.redhat.com/fc2/schedule/ > fedora.redhat.com/schedule/ would point to current. um ... you know, my previous suggestions weren't meant to be earth-shaking redesigns of the entire site or anything, just some simple page changes. regarding the above, the point was that, unless there's some real reason to see *past* schedules, what's the point of knowing when FC1 and its corresponding test releases came out? and i agree with the "participate" point above -- it just doesn't make much sense. what's the rationale for having the "terminology" page under "participate"? anyway, back to work. rday From arjanv at redhat.com Thu May 5 10:29:28 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 06:29:28 -0400 Subject: kernel source rpm won't build In-Reply-To: <1115283000.2911.6.camel@hush> References: <1115283000.2911.6.camel@hush> Message-ID: <1115288968.6467.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 10:50 +0200, tony wrote: > I'm trying to build 2.6.11-1.1284_FC4 src rpm > > I really need to build a kernel that has no DRM and AGP so that I can > build specific modules for VIA EPIA M. It's really important for correctness to have AGP in the kernel though. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tony at tgds.net Thu May 5 11:25:05 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:25:05 +0200 Subject: kernel source rpm won't build In-Reply-To: <1115288968.6467.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115283000.2911.6.camel@hush> <1115288968.6467.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115292306.2911.11.camel@hush> Le jeudi 05 mai 2005 ? 06:29 -0400, Arjan van de Ven a ?crit : > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 10:50 +0200, tony wrote: > > I'm trying to build 2.6.11-1.1284_FC4 src rpm > > > > I really need to build a kernel that has no DRM and AGP so that I can > > build specific modules for VIA EPIA M. > > It's really important for correctness to have AGP in the kernel though. Yeah what I mean is to build kernel with agp = yes and via as module Tony From arjanv at redhat.com Thu May 5 11:33:22 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:33:22 +0200 Subject: kernel source rpm won't build In-Reply-To: <1115292306.2911.11.camel@hush> References: <1115283000.2911.6.camel@hush> <1115288968.6467.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115292306.2911.11.camel@hush> Message-ID: <20050505113322.GA22028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 01:25:05PM +0200, tony wrote: > Le jeudi 05 mai 2005 ? 06:29 -0400, Arjan van de Ven a ?crit : > > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 10:50 +0200, tony wrote: > > > I'm trying to build 2.6.11-1.1284_FC4 src rpm > > > > > > I really need to build a kernel that has no DRM and AGP so that I can > > > build specific modules for VIA EPIA M. > > > > It's really important for correctness to have AGP in the kernel though. > > Yeah what I mean is to build kernel with agp = yes and via as module via agp? that needs to be built in too for correctness tho... if you need changes to that driver please do them in the source (and make sure to submit them to Dave so that they can get merged in the kernel) From buildsys at redhat.com Thu May 5 12:13:34 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:13:34 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050505 changes Message-ID: <200505051213.j45CDYBo000353@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: GFS-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050503.144108.FC4.5 ----------------------------------------- NetworkManager-0.4-10.cvs20050404 --------------------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Dan Williams - 0.4-10.cvs20050404 - Fix leak of a socket in DHCP code * Wed May 04 2005 Dan Williams - 0.4-9.cvs20050404 - Fix some memory leaks (Tom Parker) - Join to threads rather than spinning for their completion (Tom Parker) - Fix misuse of a g_assert() (Colin Walters) - Fix return checking of an ioctl() (Bill Moss) - Better detection and matching of hidden access points (Bill Moss) - Don't use varargs, and therefore don't crash on PPC (Peter Jones) alsa-lib-1.0.9rc2-4 ------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Than Ngo 1.0.9rc2-4 - apply patch to fix artsd daemon crash #156592 cman-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.8 ------------------------------------------ curl-7.13.1-3 ------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Ivana Varekova 7.13.1-3 - fix bug 150768 - curl-7.12.3-2 breaks basic authentication used Daniel Stenberg patch (patch2) device-mapper-multipath-0.4.4-2.1 --------------------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Alasdair Kergon - 0.4.4-2.1 - By default, disable the multipathd service. dlm-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.10 ------------------------------------------ dump-0.4b40-1 ------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Jindrich Novy 0.4b40-1 - Updated to dump 0.4b40 - Dropped .ea and .asize patches (applied upstream) firefox-0:1.0.3-4 ----------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Christopher Aillon 0:1.0.3-4 - Rebuild * Tue May 03 2005 Christopher Aillon - Patch from Marcel Mol supporting launching with filenames containing whitespace. * Tue May 03 2005 Christopher Aillon 0:1.0.3-3 - Firefox script fixes to support multilib installs. - Add upstream patch to fix bidi justification of pango - Add patch to fix launching of helper applications glibc-2.3.5-6 ------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.5-6 - update from CVS - fix cancellation on i?86 - add call frame information to i?86 assembly * Tue May 03 2005 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.5-5 - update from CVS - add some more UTF-8 locales (#156115) - clean up /lib64/tls instead of /lib/tls on x86-64, s390x and ppc64 in glibc_post_upgrade (#156656) - fix posix_fallocate{,64} (#156289) gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.13 ------------------------------------------- gnome-desktop-2.10.0-2 ---------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Ray Strode - 2.10.0-2 - run gettext initialization routines on startup (bug 155659). gnome-panel-2.10.1-9 -------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Mark McLoughlin 2.10.1-9 - Fix crash with "Recent Documents" menu (bug #156633) gnome-terminal-2.10.0-2 ----------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Ray Strode 2.10.0-2 - Fix ne translation (bug 152240). gzip-1.3.5-6 ------------ * Mon May 02 2005 Ivana Varekova 1.3.5-6 - rebuilt * Fri Apr 29 2005 Ivana Varekova 1.3.5-5 - fix bug 156269 - CAN-2005-1228 directory traversal bug (using the patch from Ulf Harnhammar) httpd-2.0.54-7 -------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Joe Orton 2.0.54-7 - mod_userdir: fix memory allocation issue (upstream #34588) - mod_ldap: fix memory corruption issue (Brad Nicholes, upstream #34618) jakarta-commons-beanutils-0:1.7.0-1jpp_2fc ------------------------------------------ * Wed May 04 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.7.0-1jpp_2fc - BC-compile. jakarta-commons-collections-0:3.1-1jpp_2fc ------------------------------------------ * Wed May 04 2005 Gary Benson - 0:3.1-1jpp_2fc - BC-compile. - Do not fetch stuff from sun.com during javadoc generation. jakarta-commons-digester-0:1.6-2jpp_2fc --------------------------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.6-2jpp_2fc - BC-compile the main jarfile. jakarta-commons-logging-0:1.0.4-2jpp_2fc ---------------------------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.0.4-2jpp_2fc - BC-compile. * Tue Jan 11 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.0.4-2jpp_1fc - Sync with RHAPS. * Thu Nov 04 2004 Gary Benson - 0:1.0.4-1jpp_2fc - Build into Fedora. jakarta-commons-modeler-0:1.1-3jpp_2fc -------------------------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.1-3jpp_2fc - BC-compile. * Mon Mar 07 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.1-3jpp_1fc - Build into Fedora. * Fri Oct 22 2004 Fernando Nasser - 0:1.1-3jpp_1rh - Merge with upstream version kdelibs-6:3.4.0-6 ----------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Than Ngo 6:3.4.0-6 - kimgio input validation vulnerabilities, CAN-2005-1046 kdewebdev-6:3.4.0-3 ------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Than Ngo 6:3.4.0-3 - apply patch to fix CAN-2005-0754, Kommander untrusted code execution, thanks to KDE security team kernel-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 ------------------------ * Wed May 04 2005 Jeremy Katz - enable radeonfb and agp on ppc64 to fix X on the G5 latex2html-2002.2.1-3 --------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Jindrich Novy 2002.2.1-3 - add latex2html, texexpand, pstoimg man pages (#60308) libselinux-1.23.10-2 -------------------- * Tue Apr 26 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.10-2 - Add info to man page * Tue Apr 26 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.10-1 - Update from NSA * Merged set_selinuxmnt patch from Bill Nottingham (Red Hat). * Rewrote get_ordered_context_list and helpers, including changing logic to allow variable MLS fields. mkinitrd-4.2.11-1 ----------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Peter Jones - 4.2.11-1 - don't copy "rw" option into the initrd; use "ro" instead if it's the only option. - Don't print "unmounting old ..." messages in nash if we're set to quiet mod_jk-0:1.2.6-3jpp_4fc ----------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Joe Orton 0:1.2.6-3jpp_4fc - add dependency on httpd-mmn - package NOTICE in docdir per ASL2.0 requirements * Tue May 03 2005 Bill Nottingham - 0:1.2.6-3jpp_3fc - temporarily disable -tools subpackage (#156757) openoffice.org-1:1.9.100-1 -------------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Caolan McNamara - 1:1.9.100-1 - bump to next version - drop finally integrated openoffice.org-1.9.75.ooo41904.singleton.patch * Tue May 03 2005 Caolan McNamara - 1:1.9.99-2 - add openoffice.org-1.9.99.gcc19870.gcjaccessproblem.filter.patch for gcj bug workaround - add openoffice.org-1.9.97.ooo48610.searchalltemplates.wizards.patch - help documentation for cs and et has landed - add openoffice.org-1.9.99.gcc19870.gcjaccessproblem.wizards.patch -> wizards work! * Tue May 03 2005 Caolan McNamara - 1:1.9.99-1 - add openoffice.org-1.9.97.ooo48600.rtfparseerror.svx.patch - drop openoffice.org-1.9.95.gcc21233.noquotesonjavaver.patch as of gcc 4.0.0-2 patch-2.5.4-24 -------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Tim Waugh 2.5.4-24 - Reverted last change (bug #154283, bug #156762). php-5.0.4-9 ----------- * Tue May 03 2005 Joe Orton 5.0.4-9 - build simplexml_import_dom even with shared dom (#156434) - prevent truncation of copied files to ~2Mb (#155916) - install /usr/bin/php from CLI build alongside CGI - enable sysvmsg extension (#142988) policycoreutils-1.23.7-1 ------------------------ * Fri Apr 29 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.7-1 - Change -f flag in fixfiles to remove stuff from /tmp - Change -F flag to pass -F flag to restorecon/fixfiles. (IE Force relabel). * Thu Apr 14 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.6-1 - Update to match NSA * Fixed signed/unsigned pointer bug in load_policy. * Reverted context validation patch for genhomedircon. * Wed Apr 13 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.5-1 - Update to match NSA * Reverted load_policy is_selinux_enabled patch from Dan Walsh. Otherwise, an initial policy load cannot be performed using load_policy, e.g. for anaconda. redhat-artwork-0.122-6 ---------------------- * Tue May 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-6 - Add a symlink for openoffice icons so we have matching bluecurve icons instead of the ugly upstream ones rpm-4.4.1-18.1 -------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Paul Nasrat - 4.4.1-18.1 - Fix typo - Fix typo * Wed May 04 2005 Paul Nasrat - 4.4.1-18 - Add missing fsm.c from matchpathcon patches tomcat5-0:5.0.30-5jpp_2fc ------------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Gary Benson 0:5.0.30-5jpp_2fc - BC-compile. xml-commons-0:1.0-0.b2.6jpp_11fc -------------------------------- * Tue May 03 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.0-0.b2.6jpp_11fc - BC-compile the API jar. From maestronn at wowway.com Thu May 5 12:44:25 2005 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 08:44:25 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050505 changes In-Reply-To: <200505051213.j45CDYBo000353@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505051213.j45CDYBo000353@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <427A1529.9060106@wowway.com> Build System wrote: > > >redhat-artwork-0.122-6 >---------------------- >* Tue May 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-6 >- Add a symlink for openoffice icons so we have matching > bluecurve icons instead of the ugly upstream ones > > > How do you circumvent this as I prefer the "ugly" upstream ones. From dcbw at redhat.com Thu May 5 13:19:11 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 09:19:11 -0400 Subject: OOo fonts gone? In-Reply-To: <4278DDE2.6010001@earthlink.net> References: <1115167836.10253.35.camel@localhost> <4278DDE2.6010001@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1115299151.16211.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 09:36 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > Paul wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >For some reason, OOo is only listing something like 20 fonts from the > >font drop down box in v1.9.96-2. In previous versions, it was listing > >around 50 fonts. > > > >Is anyone else seeing this before I put it into bugzilla or is it an > >x-org problem whereby fonts have vanished? > > > >TTFN > > > >Paul > > > > > I see a similar thing. I have only 16 fonts in OOo, but 43 in gedit for > example. Sounds like you should put it in bugzilla. Are any of these bitmap fonts, like Courier? If so, OOo rightfully ignores those fonts and will use only Type1 or TTF fonts. I just did a quick comparison and didn't find any differences between my system with gedit and OOo, except for said bitmap fonts. If the font is in Fontconfig's database (ie gedit can see it), and its _not_ a bitmap font, and OOo can't see it, then yes its a bug. Dan From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 5 13:33:51 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:33:51 +0100 Subject: OOo fonts gone? In-Reply-To: <1115299151.16211.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <1115167836.10253.35.camel@localhost> <4278DDE2.6010001@earthlink.net> <1115299151.16211.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115300031.23788.34.camel@localhost> Hi, > Are any of these bitmap fonts, like Courier? If so, OOo rightfully > ignores those fonts and will use only Type1 or TTF fonts. I just did a > quick comparison and didn't find any differences between my system with > gedit and OOo, except for said bitmap fonts. If the font is in > Fontconfig's database (ie gedit can see it), and its _not_ a bitmap > font, and OOo can't see it, then yes its a bug. Ah. That's a pain in the backside for me as I use bitmap fonts a lot. Any way to get them back? TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dcbw at redhat.com Thu May 5 13:52:47 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 09:52:47 -0400 Subject: OOo fonts gone? In-Reply-To: <1115300031.23788.34.camel@localhost> References: <1115167836.10253.35.camel@localhost> <4278DDE2.6010001@earthlink.net> <1115299151.16211.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1115300031.23788.34.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115301167.16211.25.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 14:33 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > Are any of these bitmap fonts, like Courier? If so, OOo rightfully > > ignores those fonts and will use only Type1 or TTF fonts. I just did a > > quick comparison and didn't find any differences between my system with > > gedit and OOo, except for said bitmap fonts. If the font is in > > Fontconfig's database (ie gedit can see it), and its _not_ a bitmap > > font, and OOo can't see it, then yes its a bug. > > Ah. That's a pain in the backside for me as I use bitmap fonts a lot. > Any way to get them back? They weren't in FC2 or FC3 either... Anyway, not really since they all look like ass on screen and on the printer. Out of curiosity, what's the need for bitmap fonts as opposed to scalables? Dan From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 5 14:07:51 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:07:51 +0100 Subject: OOo fonts gone? In-Reply-To: <1115301167.16211.25.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <1115167836.10253.35.camel@localhost> <4278DDE2.6010001@earthlink.net> <1115299151.16211.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1115300031.23788.34.camel@localhost> <1115301167.16211.25.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115302071.23788.53.camel@localhost> Hi, > > Ah. That's a pain in the backside for me as I use bitmap fonts a lot. > > Any way to get them back? > > They weren't in FC2 or FC3 either... Anyway, not really since they all > look like ass on screen and on the printer. Out of curiosity, what's > the need for bitmap fonts as opposed to scalables? I tend to use the likes of courier for fixed scale fonts for the likes of source code, arial and helvetica for Win32 compatibility and Times Roman for the same sort of reason. TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at nodata.co.uk Thu May 5 15:15:21 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:15:21 +0200 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> References: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> Message-ID: <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan> On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 02:25 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > I use NameVirtualHosts...but whenever I set them to *:80 > as opposed to 192.168.2.105:80 they stop working. Why is that? > > Anyone having the same problem? > > -- > Ivan Gyurdiev > Cornell University > What ip address is apache binding to? From fedora at nodata.co.uk Thu May 5 15:21:49 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:21:49 +0200 Subject: artsd hanging. In-Reply-To: <1114986091.3252.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> References: <1114986091.3252.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Message-ID: <1115306509.3044.22.camel@sb-home.lan> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 18:21 -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > Hello... > > With the latest Rawhide update, I am getting serious sound issues. > > I use KDE and ALSA is failing completely. I get failed to start sound > service messages on startup occasionally (but not always) I am also > getting failures in KNotify saying that KNotify has crashed trying to > start KNotify. > > I get no sound when trying to test sound with hardware set to Auto > Detect, yet I get sound when testing using Threaded Open Sound. > > I also receive CPU Overloaded - aborting messages and artsd is using > 49-50% CPU for both User and System for almost a 100% usage total. > > Before the latest updates, I never did have Midi support. Now I have > Midi support showing up in Sound System which does not work. > > I have a cheap ES-1370 sound card that has given me no issues before now > (with the exception of Midi support.) > > Is anyone else experiencing these type of issues with the latest update? > Better yet, any suggestion for trouble shooting and fixing this > issue? :) > > Robert. > > > I'm getting a warning from artsd about cpu overload when running k3b as non-root. From fedora at nodata.co.uk Thu May 5 15:23:30 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:23:30 +0200 Subject: OT: nvidia drivers ppc, ppc64 In-Reply-To: <42767CE5.8020505@www.linux.org.uk> References: <4274C7F6.1000408@gmx.de> <42767CE5.8020505@www.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: <1115306610.3044.24.camel@sb-home.lan> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 15:17 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: [snip] > you're thanking me. ;o) The "nv" driver is source code provided > by Nvidia which is obfuscated and generally only hackable by Nvidia, > so it's more or less "as is" too. I can't take any credit for it So it's not open source then :/ From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu May 5 15:36:25 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:36:25 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <1115307385.11345.2.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 17:15 +0200, nodata wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 02:25 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > I use NameVirtualHosts...but whenever I set them to *:80 > > as opposed to 192.168.2.105:80 they stop working. Why is that? > > > > Anyone having the same problem? > > > > -- > > Ivan Gyurdiev > > Cornell University > > > > What ip address is apache binding to? According to httpd.conf: Listen *:80 I can access the webserver...I just get the default host, not the specific virtual hosts that I want. -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From bernd.bartmann at gmail.com Thu May 5 16:03:44 2005 From: bernd.bartmann at gmail.com (Bernd Bartmann) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 18:03:44 +0200 Subject: Missing update announcements Message-ID: <6c18a4f05050509036a77b73e@mail.gmail.com> Again several updates/erratas for FC3 appeared on the download mirrors but were never announced. I've opened a bug for each missing announcement: perl-5.8.5-11.FC3, #156366 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1, #156367 devhelp-0.9.2-2.3.2, #156017 epiphany-1.4.4-4.3.2, #156016 mozilla-1.7.7-1.3.1, #156015 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3, #156014 firefox-1.0.3-1.3.1, #156013 postfix-2.1.5-5, #151588 nfs-utils-1.0.6-52, #149901 Can someone @redhat.com please take care that the announcements get posted? TIA, Bernd. From henryhartley at westat.com Thu May 5 16:06:19 2005 From: henryhartley at westat.com (Henry Hartley) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:06:19 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts Message-ID: <403593359CA56C4CAE1F8F4F00DCFE7D1C2013@MAILBE2.westat.com> On: Thu, May 05, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Ivan Gyurdiev said: >> >> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 17:15 +0200, nodata wrote: >> > On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 02:25 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: >> > > I use NameVirtualHosts...but whenever I set them to *:80 >> > > as opposed to 192.168.2.105:80 they stop working. Why is that? >> > > >> > > Anyone having the same problem? >> > >> > What ip address is apache binding to? >> >> According to httpd.conf: >> >> Listen *:80 >> >> I can access the webserver...I just get the default host, >> not the specific virtual hosts that I want. This isn't by any chance an old verson of Apache? (like older than 1.3.13) -- Henry From MSchwartz at MedAnalytics.com Thu May 5 14:52:36 2005 From: MSchwartz at MedAnalytics.com (Marc Schwartz) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 09:52:36 -0500 Subject: OOo fonts gone? In-Reply-To: <1115302071.23788.53.camel@localhost> References: <1115167836.10253.35.camel@localhost> <4278DDE2.6010001@earthlink.net> <1115299151.16211.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1115300031.23788.34.camel@localhost> <1115301167.16211.25.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1115302071.23788.53.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Paul wrote: > Hi, > > >>>Ah. That's a pain in the backside for me as I use bitmap fonts a lot. >>>Any way to get them back? >> >>They weren't in FC2 or FC3 either... Anyway, not really since they all >>look like ass on screen and on the printer. Out of curiosity, what's >>the need for bitmap fonts as opposed to scalables? > > > I tend to use the likes of courier for fixed scale fonts for the likes > of source code, arial and helvetica for Win32 compatibility and Times > Roman for the same sort of reason. > > TTFN > > Paul Paul, Consider using the Bitstream Vera Sans Mono font. I use that for all applications where I need a fixed width font (save LaTeX output). HTH, Marc Schwartz From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu May 5 16:21:04 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:21:04 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <403593359CA56C4CAE1F8F4F00DCFE7D1C2013@MAILBE2.westat.com> References: <403593359CA56C4CAE1F8F4F00DCFE7D1C2013@MAILBE2.westat.com> Message-ID: <1115310065.11345.7.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 12:06 -0400, Henry Hartley wrote: > On: Thu, May 05, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Ivan Gyurdiev said: > >> > >> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 17:15 +0200, nodata wrote: > >> > On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 02:25 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > >> > > I use NameVirtualHosts...but whenever I set them to *:80 > >> > > as opposed to 192.168.2.105:80 they stop working. Why is that? > >> > > > >> > > Anyone having the same problem? > >> > > >> > What ip address is apache binding to? > >> > >> According to httpd.conf: > >> > >> Listen *:80 > >> > >> I can access the webserver...I just get the default host, > >> not the specific virtual hosts that I want. > > This isn't by any chance an old verson of Apache? (like older than > 1.3.13) It's apache 2.0.54-6. -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From ken at geekystuff.net Thu May 5 17:31:42 2005 From: ken at geekystuff.net (Ken Nordquist) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:31:42 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <1115307385.11345.2.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> References: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115307385.11345.2.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> Message-ID: <427A587E.7010200@geekystuff.net> For each NameVirtualHost, you must have a: DocumentRoot /path/to/virtual/host/directory Where the xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual ip address of the virtual host you wish to access. You cannot leave the ip address out. I use my computer as a test server and have a dozen or so test virtual hosts up and running with no problems. HTH, Ken Nordquist Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > According to httpd.conf: > >Listen *:80 > >I can access the webserver...I just get the default host, >not the specific virtual hosts that I want. > > > From jdennis at redhat.com Thu May 5 16:37:33 2005 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:37:33 -0400 Subject: Missing update announcements In-Reply-To: <6c18a4f05050509036a77b73e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c18a4f05050509036a77b73e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115311053.20494.17.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 18:03 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote: > Again several updates/erratas for FC3 appeared on the download mirrors > but were never announced. It's worthwhile to point out that the process for getting a new rpm signed and pushed is entirely manual done via email requests. A developer sends an email asking for the package to be pushed. It may take between 1 hour and 2 days for the request to be honored. He cannot generate the announcement until the sign/push occurs because the MD5 sums won't be correct until the package is signed. So it is entirely possible for a package to get signed while the developer is gone and he may not be able to generate the announcement until he returns. Because of the manual nature of the process and the inherent delays it is entirely possible for several days to transpire between a package making an appearance and the announcement. I'm not defending the process, but I trying to explain why it sometimes seems like announcements are delayed. The process should be fixed, but it is what it is :-( > I've opened a bug for each missing > announcement: How long have you waited for the announcement? If its less than 2 days I would give the developer a chance before opening a bug. I assume you have some automated script that is detecting these missed announcements, humans trying to juggle the process along with all the other things on their plate can't compete with computers waiting to catch them. -- John Dennis From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu May 5 16:38:44 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:38:44 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <427A587E.7010200@geekystuff.net> References: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115307385.11345.2.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A587E.7010200@geekystuff.net> Message-ID: <1115311125.11345.24.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 13:31 -0400, Ken Nordquist wrote: > For each NameVirtualHost, you must have a: > > > DocumentRoot /path/to/virtual/host/directory > > > Where the xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual ip address of the virtual host > you wish to access. You cannot leave the ip address out I believe the wildcard syntax is legal. At least according to the Apache website it is... > . > > I use my computer as a test server and have a dozen or so test virtual > hosts up and running with no problems. Have you tried using a wildcard for the VirtualHost ip? -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From kfreem02 at comcast.net Thu May 5 16:43:57 2005 From: kfreem02 at comcast.net (Kevin Freeman) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:43:57 -0500 Subject: OOo fonts gone? In-Reply-To: <1115302071.23788.53.camel@localhost> References: <1115167836.10253.35.camel@localhost> <4278DDE2.6010001@earthlink.net> <1115299151.16211.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1115300031.23788.34.camel@localhost> <1115301167.16211.25.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1115302071.23788.53.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115311437.8657.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 15:07 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > > Ah. That's a pain in the backside for me as I use bitmap fonts a lot. > > > Any way to get them back? > > > I tend to use the likes of courier for fixed scale fonts for the likes > of source code, arial and helvetica for Win32 compatibility and Times > Roman for the same sort of reason. > > TTFN > > Paul Paul, You may be interested in the ms-coreweb package at http://mpeters.us/yum/fedora/3/i386. The package is in the yjl repository. It contains common MS truetype fonts that they released years ago so mindless worms could litter web pages with tags. The ploy worked. (Oops, was that out load?) Once installed, OOo (and every other app using freetype) will see the new fonts - then you can delete the bitmaps! Kevin From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Thu May 5 16:53:45 2005 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:53:45 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <1115310065.11345.7.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> References: <403593359CA56C4CAE1F8F4F00DCFE7D1C2013@MAILBE2.westat.com> <1115310065.11345.7.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> Message-ID: <427A4F99.5010503@atl.lmco.com> Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 12:06 -0400, Henry Hartley wrote: > >>On: Thu, May 05, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Ivan Gyurdiev said: >> >>>>On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 17:15 +0200, nodata wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 02:25 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I use NameVirtualHosts...but whenever I set them to *:80 >>>>>>as opposed to 192.168.2.105:80 they stop working. Why is that? >>>>>> >>>>>>Anyone having the same problem? >>>>> >>>>>What ip address is apache binding to? >>>> >>>>According to httpd.conf: >>>> >>>>Listen *:80 >>>> >>>>I can access the webserver...I just get the default host, >>>>not the specific virtual hosts that I want. >> >>This isn't by any chance an old verson of Apache? (like older than >>1.3.13) > > > It's apache 2.0.54-6. > Check to make sure Tux isn't running - it can prevent Apache from binding to port 80. -- ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs dstewart at atl.lmco.com From bernd.bartmann at gmail.com Thu May 5 16:58:42 2005 From: bernd.bartmann at gmail.com (Bernd Bartmann) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 18:58:42 +0200 Subject: Missing update announcements In-Reply-To: <1115311053.20494.17.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <6c18a4f05050509036a77b73e@mail.gmail.com> <1115311053.20494.17.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <6c18a4f05050509584792d76b@mail.gmail.com> On 5/5/05, John Dennis wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 18:03 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote: > > Again several updates/erratas for FC3 appeared on the download mirrors > > but were never announced. > > It's worthwhile to point out that the process for getting a new rpm > signed and pushed is entirely manual done via email requests. A > developer sends an email asking for the package to be pushed. It may > take between 1 hour and 2 days for the request to be honored. He cannot > generate the announcement until the sign/push occurs because the MD5 > sums won't be correct until the package is signed. So it is entirely > possible for a package to get signed while the developer is gone and he > may not be able to generate the announcement until he returns. Because > of the manual nature of the process and the inherent delays it is > entirely possible for several days to transpire between a package making > an appearance and the announcement. > > I'm not defending the process, but I trying to explain why it sometimes > seems like announcements are delayed. The process should be fixed, but > it is what it is :-( > > > I've opened a bug for each missing > > announcement: > > How long have you waited for the announcement? If its less than 2 days I > would give the developer a chance before opening a bug. I assume you > have some automated script that is detecting these missed announcements, > humans trying to juggle the process along with all the other things on > their plate can't compete with computers waiting to catch them. Every of the missing announcements is much longer than 2 days out. Here are the dates when the files appeared on the download mirror that I use: perl-5.8.5-11.FC3, released 2005-04-27, #156366 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1, released 2005-04-26, #156367 devhelp-0.9.2-2.3.2, released 2005-04-22, #156017 epiphany-1.4.4-4.3.2, released 2005-04-22, #156016 mozilla-1.7.7-1.3.1, released 2005-04-22, #156015 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3, released 2005-04-21, #156014 firefox-1.0.3-1.3.1, released 2005-04-19, #156013 postfix-2.1.5-5, released 2005-03-17, #151588 nfs-utils-1.0.6-52, released 2005-02-19, #149901 Up to now I have no script to monitor the missing announcement. I'm still hoping that this problem is addressed in a way so that it cannot happen again. I just take a look at my rsync mirror logs and compare them to the announcements that appeared on the mailing list. If no announcement comes out within two days after the rpms appear on the download mirror I open up a bug in bugzilla. So far most rpm packagers were helpful and sent out the announcement when they see the bugreport. But sometimes even this fails :-( Why is it not possible to automatically sent out the announcement after the rpms are signed and the MD5 sums are known? Is it possible to trigger an email to the packager after the package is signed? Something like a reminder "package is ready for distribution, please sent out an announcement". TIA, Bernd. From rad at radfiles.net Thu May 5 17:01:38 2005 From: rad at radfiles.net (Brian Rademacher) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:01:38 -0600 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts References: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan><1115307385.11345.2.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A587E.7010200@geekystuff.net> Message-ID: <005b01c55194$1afff980$ed2d11ac@904167SOSLA> I use Listen *:80 for all of mine...Works well when you have a dynamic IP... For more info: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/vhosts/examples.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Nordquist" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Hosts > For each NameVirtualHost, you must have a: > > > DocumentRoot /path/to/virtual/host/directory > > > Where the xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual ip address of the virtual host you > wish to access. You cannot leave the ip address out. > > I use my computer as a test server and have a dozen or so test virtual > hosts up and running with no problems. > > HTH, > > Ken Nordquist > > Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > >> According to httpd.conf: >> >>Listen *:80 >> >>I can access the webserver...I just get the default host, >>not the specific virtual hosts that I want. >> >> > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ken at geekystuff.net Thu May 5 18:42:44 2005 From: ken at geekystuff.net (Ken Nordquist) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:42:44 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <1115311125.11345.24.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> References: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115307385.11345.2.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A587E.7010200@geekystuff.net> <1115311125.11345.24.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> Message-ID: <427A6924.3050804@geekystuff.net> Ivan, For the NameVirtualHost, it is OK to have it as you have it... *:80 However, for each virtual host, you MUST have an ip address in the directive... Ken Nordquist Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: >At least according to the Apache website it is... >I believe the wildcard syntax is legal. > > > Have you tried using a wildcard for the VirtualHost ip? From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu May 5 17:10:28 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:10:28 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <427A4F99.5010503@atl.lmco.com> References: <403593359CA56C4CAE1F8F4F00DCFE7D1C2013@MAILBE2.westat.com> <1115310065.11345.7.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A4F99.5010503@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <1115313028.11805.1.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> > Check to make sure Tux isn't running - it can prevent Apache from > binding to port 80. I can connect to my Apache server at port 80, so surely that can't be the problem - it's just the virtual hosts that are not working when I use the wildcard syntax *only*. I haven't configured tux, and I see no tux module in the kernel. -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From mrsam at courier-mta.com Thu May 5 17:18:11 2005 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:18:11 -0400 Subject: Missing update announcements References: <6c18a4f05050509036a77b73e@mail.gmail.com> <1115311053.20494.17.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <6c18a4f05050509584792d76b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Bernd Bartmann writes: > Why is it not possible to automatically sent out the announcement > after the rpms are signed and the MD5 sums are known? > > Is it possible to trigger an email to the packager after the package > is signed? Something like a reminder "package is ready for > distribution, please sent out an announcement". Why even care about MD5 sums? As long as the signature verifies OK that's all you need to know. 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I should clarify that I have used the Fedora HTTP config tool to setup my configuration, so any problems in the config are probably bugs, since I didn't create any of this myself. Okay, here's some relevant config bits (none of which were configured manually): Also, please see if you can connect to http://justin.ivg2.net and get something other than the default server page that you get when the index is missing - all I see is the default page from my LAN. On the other hand http://ivan.ivg2.net/hl2/ works just fine, because I use an explicit IP. NameVirtualHost 192.168.2.105:80 NameVirtualHost *:80 .... ServerAdmin ivg2 at cornell.edu ServerName ivg2.net ... # Virtual host Default Virtual Host ServerAdmin ivg2 at cornell.edu ServerSignature email DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm index.shtml LogLevel debug HostNameLookups off # Virtual host Ivan's Virtual Host DocumentRoot /var/www/html.ivan/ ErrorLog logs/error_log.ivan ServerAdmin ivg2 at cornell.edu ServerName ivan.ivg2.net ServerAlias cobra.ivg2.net TransferLog logs/access_log.ivan DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml Options all AllowOverride none TransferLog logs/access_log.ivan ErrorLog logs/error_log.ivan # Virtual host Justin's Virtual Host DocumentRoot /var/www/html.justin/ ErrorLog logs/error_log.justin ServerAdmin jjp33 at cornell.edu ServerName justin.ivg2.net TransferLog logs/access_log.justin DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml Options all AllowOverride none TransferLog logs/access_log.justin ErrorLog logs/error_log.justin -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From mattdm at mattdm.org Thu May 5 17:54:26 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:54:26 -0400 Subject: Missing update announcements In-Reply-To: <1115311053.20494.17.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <6c18a4f05050509036a77b73e@mail.gmail.com> <1115311053.20494.17.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050505175426.GA30155@jadzia.bu.edu> On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 12:37:33PM -0400, John Dennis wrote: > may not be able to generate the announcement until he returns. Because > of the manual nature of the process and the inherent delays it is > entirely possible for several days to transpire between a package making > an appearance and the announcement. > I'm not defending the process, but I trying to explain why it sometimes > seems like announcements are delayed. The process should be fixed, but > it is what it is :-( The manual nature of the current process causes some other problems too -- particularly, the format of the announcements often deviates from the norm (although people have gotten better about this). -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 77 degrees Fahrenheit. From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu May 5 18:27:42 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:27:42 +0200 Subject: Missing update announcements In-Reply-To: References: <6c18a4f05050509036a77b73e@mail.gmail.com> <1115311053.20494.17.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <6c18a4f05050509584792d76b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <427A659E.8020000@gmx.de> Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Bernd Bartmann writes: > >> Why is it not possible to automatically sent out the announcement >> after the rpms are signed and the MD5 sums are known? >> >> Is it possible to trigger an email to the packager after the package >> is signed? Something like a reminder "package is ready for >> distribution, please sent out an announcement". > > Why even care about MD5 sums? As long as the signature verifies OK > that's all you need to know. The signature is really just another sum > of the file's contents, that's encrypted by the private key. afair not all packages are signed, eg. testing, development, ... the md5sum will tell if the package was modified. eg. hexedit a signed package. # cp logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch.rpm logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm # md5sum logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch* a00bb258185c048fa179a8c015efdab7 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm a00bb258185c048fa179a8c015efdab7 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch.rpm # hexedit logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm [...] # md5sum logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch* 307dbab2caa82e62740c1849a30fe7a1 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm a00bb258185c048fa179a8c015efdab7 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch.rpm # rpm -Uvh --test logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] package logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1 is already installed # rpm -Uvh --test logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] package logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1 is already installed # hexedit logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm [...] # md5sum logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch* 3a9badb69d9047f9205412db801e1c70 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm a00bb258185c048fa179a8c015efdab7 logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch.rpm # rpm -Uvh --test logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm Fehler: logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 4f2a6fd2 Fehler: logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1.noarch-hexedit.rpm cannot be installed -- shrek-m From kyrre at solution-forge.net Thu May 5 18:36:21 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:36:21 +0200 Subject: Two latest kernels and udev Message-ID: <1115318181.3343.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> I am not able to boot my computer using either of the two latest kernels (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 and .1284). All that happens is during "Starting udev" i get the error "MAKEDEV mkdir: File exists". Yet udev gets the green "OK". It then hangs at "Initiating hardware...". Kernel .1282, .1276, and .1275 are all OK - they boot, no problem. (there is an error "mknod: failed to create /dev/"{"console", "zero", "null"}" 17" Anyone with similar experiences? This is a Dell Latitude c600/c500 laptop computer. Kyrre From roger at gwch.net Thu May 5 18:51:13 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:51:13 +0200 Subject: Two latest kernels and udev In-Reply-To: <1115318181.3343.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115318181.3343.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <427A6B21.6050204@gwch.net> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > I am not able to boot my computer using either of the two latest kernels > (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 and .1284). All that happens is during "Starting > udev" i get the error "MAKEDEV mkdir: File exists". Yet udev gets the > green "OK". It then hangs at "Initiating hardware...". > > Kernel .1282, .1276, and .1275 are all OK - they boot, no problem. > (there is an error "mknod: failed to create /dev/"{"console", "zero", > "null"}" 17" > > Anyone with similar experiences? > > This is a Dell Latitude c600/c500 laptop computer. > > Kyrre > exactly the same. But still working and booting fine with selinux=0. Roger From nman64 at n-man.com Thu May 5 19:03:19 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:03:19 -0500 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <1115313622.11805.10.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> References: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115307385.11345.2.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A587E.7010200@geekystuff.net> <1115311125.11345.24.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A6924.3050804@geekystuff.net> <1115313622.11805.10.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> Message-ID: <427A6DF7.3070205@n-man.com> Try adding a ServerName directive to the first (default) virtual host entry. You should be able to remove ALL IP address specifications. You should only have one NameVirtualHost directive, and it should read "NameVirtualHost *:80" and each virtual host entry should begin with "" and should contain one ServerName directive and any relevant ServerAlias directives. The ServerName directive in your first VirtualHost entry should probably be the same as your main ServerName directive. -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From katzj at redhat.com Thu May 5 19:10:40 2005 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:10:40 -0400 Subject: kernel-0:2.6.11-1.1284_FC4.i686 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115320240.2466.1.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 11:21 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > I cannot boot my system with the newest kernel. It gets to the first > stages of init and then hangs trying to start udev: > > Starting udev: MAKEDEV: mkdir: File exists > Initializing hardware . . . udev bug, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156862. Booting with enforcing=0 works around for now. Jeremy From kyrre at solution-forge.net Thu May 5 19:12:03 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:12:03 +0200 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <1115313622.11805.10.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> References: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115307385.11345.2.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A587E.7010200@geekystuff.net> <1115311125.11345.24.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A6924.3050804@geekystuff.net> <1115313622.11805.10.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> Message-ID: <1115320322.3343.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> tor, 05.05.2005 kl. 19.20 skrev Ivan Gyurdiev: > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 14:42 -0400, Ken Nordquist wrote: > > Ivan, > > > > For the NameVirtualHost, it is OK to have it as you have it... *:80 > > > > However, for each virtual host, you MUST have an ip address in the > > directive... > > I should clarify that I have used the Fedora HTTP config tool to setup > my configuration, so any problems in the config are probably bugs, since > I didn't create any of this myself. *snip* bugzilla then? From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 5 19:42:38 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:42:38 +0100 Subject: gcalctool Message-ID: <1115322158.4301.2.camel@localhost> Hi, Found a fun bug in gcalctool. Type 19*19 or 19^2 and watch it be out by 10! Which package do I need to report it next to for bugzilla? TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mpeters at mac.com Thu May 5 19:43:29 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:43:29 -0700 Subject: Two latest kernels and udev In-Reply-To: <427A6B21.6050204@gwch.net> References: <1115318181.3343.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <427A6B21.6050204@gwch.net> Message-ID: <1115322209.28440.0.camel@fc4t2.mpeters.local> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 20:51 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > > Anyone with similar experiences? > > > > This is a Dell Latitude c600/c500 laptop computer. > > > > Kyrre > > > exactly the same. But still working and booting fine with selinux=0. > > Roger > It appears to be a udev bug (the one I filed was marked as a duplicate of the udev bug) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156862 From fedora at nodata.co.uk Thu May 5 20:00:48 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:00:48 +0200 Subject: gcalctool In-Reply-To: <1115322158.4301.2.camel@localhost> References: <1115322158.4301.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115323248.3269.0.camel@sb-home.lan> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 20:42 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Found a fun bug in gcalctool. > > Type 19*19 or 19^2 and watch it be out by 10! > > Which package do I need to report it next to for bugzilla? > > TTFN > > Paul $ rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/gcalctool gnome-utils-2.10.0-2 $ echo $((19*19)) 361 gcalctool gives me 361 for 19*19 From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Thu May 5 20:26:23 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:26:23 -0700 Subject: Dell D800 Latitude Fan and Heat(FC4T2) Message-ID: <1115324783.6722.2.camel@homebox> I'm not real sure what is going on, but it seems like my fan is always running now(didn't happen under FC3). My temp doesn't seem to be getting that hot (playing Americas' Army runs about 60C, idle system running X runs about 45C). Under FC3 my laptop is quiet as a mouse when it's idle, but now I am noticing that there is a constant hum of fan noise. What should I be looking into to determine cause? Sean From fedora at nodata.co.uk Thu May 5 20:32:53 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:32:53 +0200 Subject: gaim & something else Message-ID: <1115325173.3269.4.camel@sb-home.lan> Does anyone find that the gaim new message sounds are queued until something using the sound card (such as -yikes- real player) has finished? Do I have something misconfigured, or is this best behaviour? From matthew at nocturnal.org Thu May 5 20:39:13 2005 From: matthew at nocturnal.org (Matthew Lenz) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:39:13 -0500 Subject: gaim & something else In-Reply-To: <1115325173.3269.4.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <1115325173.3269.4.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <1115325553.16123.33.camel@mlenzdesktop> you shouldn't be having that problem with fc4t2 as i was under the impression it used dmix (alsa software mixing) by default. if you aren't using fc4t2 you need to add something like: pcm.!default { type plug slave.pcm "swmixer" } pcm.swmixer { type dmix ipc_key 1234 slave { pcm "hw:0,0" period_time 0 period_size 1024 buffer_size 4096 rate 44100 } } to your $HOME/.asoundrc file and it wouldn't hurt to configure your apps to use ALSA. On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 22:32 +0200, nodata wrote: > Does anyone find that the gaim new message sounds are queued until > something using the sound card (such as -yikes- real player) has > finished? > > Do I have something misconfigured, or is this best behaviour? > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 5 20:40:02 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:40:02 +0100 Subject: gcalctool In-Reply-To: <1115323248.3269.0.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <1115322158.4301.2.camel@localhost> <1115323248.3269.0.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <1115325602.4301.3.camel@localhost> Hi, > gcalctool gives me 361 for 19*19 Showing 371 at this end! TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. 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It may > take between 1 hour and 2 days for the request to be honored. He cannot > generate the announcement until the sign/push occurs because the MD5 > sums won't be correct until the package is signed. So it is entirely > possible for a package to get signed while the developer is gone and he > may not be able to generate the announcement until he returns. Because > of the manual nature of the process and the inherent delays it is > entirely possible for several days to transpire between a package making > an appearance and the announcement. Why not have a template that the packager fills out partially with %summary, %description, etc., then have a place where the signer puts the md5sums. That way the packager doesn't have to worry about when the packages are signed, and the announcement can go out as soon as the updates are ready. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mefoster at gmail.com Thu May 5 20:47:55 2005 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:47:55 +0100 Subject: gaim & something else In-Reply-To: <1115325553.16123.33.camel@mlenzdesktop> References: <1115325173.3269.4.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115325553.16123.33.camel@mlenzdesktop> Message-ID: On 5/5/05, Matthew Lenz wrote: > you shouldn't be having that problem with fc4t2 as i was under the > impression it used dmix (alsa software mixing) by default. I do find that pure OSS apps still don't go through dmix -- e.g., if I'm using skype, I can't do anything else sound-related, and if aRts is running skype won't connect. Is there anything that you can put into .asoundrc to make OSS emulation go through dmix? MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From nman64 at n-man.com Thu May 5 20:48:58 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:48:58 -0500 Subject: gaim & something else In-Reply-To: <1115325173.3269.4.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <1115325173.3269.4.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <427A86BA.7090208@n-man.com> Try opening Gaim's preferences and changing the sound options. Set the sound command to 'aplay %s' and see if that helps. You may also need to make sure ALSA's dmix/asym plugins are in use. 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It seems that applications that only support OSS are the most troublesome. I don't know about skype (never used it), but artsd can be configured to use ALSA. The following example assumes that you have already configured a plugin for dmix/asym that is named 'asym'. If you would like my full configuration, let me know. pcm.dsp0 { type plug slave.pcm "asym" } ctl.mixer0 { type hw card 0 } -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there anything that you can put > into .asoundrc to make OSS emulation go through dmix? pcm.!dsp { type plug slave.pcm "" } -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rjames at csulb.edu Thu May 5 21:01:10 2005 From: rjames at csulb.edu (Ryan James) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:01:10 -0700 Subject: gcalctool In-Reply-To: <1115325602.4301.3.camel@localhost> References: <1115322158.4301.2.camel@localhost> <1115323248.3269.0.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115325602.4301.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115326870.8092.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 21:40 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > gcalctool gives me 361 for 19*19 > > Showing 371 at this end! > > TTFN > > Paul not here, i get 361 for both 19*19 and 19^2. From fedora at nodata.co.uk Thu May 5 21:05:56 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 23:05:56 +0200 Subject: gaim & something else In-Reply-To: <427A86BA.7090208@n-man.com> References: <1115325173.3269.4.camel@sb-home.lan> <427A86BA.7090208@n-man.com> Message-ID: <1115327156.3269.14.camel@sb-home.lan> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 15:48 -0500, Patrick Barnes wrote: > Try opening Gaim's preferences and changing the sound options. Set the > sound command to 'aplay %s' and see if that helps. You may also need to > make sure ALSA's dmix/asym plugins are in use. You could alternatively > set the sound command to playback through whatever sound server you use. > > -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list I've tried this, and adding the other options to .asoundrc, but new message notifications are stilled queued until after realplayer finishes a track. Annoying! From fedora at nodata.co.uk Thu May 5 21:06:42 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 23:06:42 +0200 Subject: gcalctool In-Reply-To: <1115325602.4301.3.camel@localhost> References: <1115322158.4301.2.camel@localhost> <1115323248.3269.0.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115325602.4301.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115327203.3269.16.camel@sb-home.lan> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 21:40 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > gcalctool gives me 361 for 19*19 > > Showing 371 at this end! > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Hm. What does bash say? From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 5 21:19:09 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:19:09 +0100 Subject: gcalctool In-Reply-To: <1115327203.3269.16.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <1115322158.4301.2.camel@localhost> <1115323248.3269.0.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115325602.4301.3.camel@localhost> <1115327203.3269.16.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <1115327949.4301.5.camel@localhost> Hi, > Hm. What does bash say? 361 TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have had limited success with playback-only mixing but never when a capture device is involved. I am currently having problems mixing Teamspeak2 with anything else. Also if any sound app is open when I start Firefox, any flash that plays has no sound. The joys of running closed-source apps, I guess. I am just patiently waiting for new versions that support ALSA. Some other dmix hints might be found here. http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin /Mike From mitr at volny.cz Thu May 5 21:22:32 2005 From: mitr at volny.cz (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 23:22:32 +0200 Subject: gcalctool In-Reply-To: <1115327949.4301.5.camel@localhost> References: <1115322158.4301.2.camel@localhost> <1115323248.3269.0.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115325602.4301.3.camel@localhost> <1115327203.3269.16.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115327949.4301.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20050505212227.GC15674@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:19:09PM +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > Hm. What does bash say? > > 361 Note that it's not relevant much if you want to suggest it's the CPU's fault because gcalctool has its own multiple-precision arithmetic code. Mirek From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu May 5 21:24:47 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:24:47 -0400 Subject: Apache Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <427A6DF7.3070205@n-man.com> References: <1115187923.28115.8.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <1115306121.3044.20.camel@sb-home.lan> <1115307385.11345.2.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A587E.7010200@geekystuff.net> <1115311125.11345.24.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A6924.3050804@geekystuff.net> <1115313622.11805.10.camel@cobra.ivg2.net> <427A6DF7.3070205@n-man.com> Message-ID: <1115328287.13097.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 14:03 -0500, Patrick Barnes wrote: > Try adding a ServerName directive to the first (default) virtual host > entry. You should be able to remove ALL IP address specifications. You > should only have one NameVirtualHost directive, and it should read > "NameVirtualHost *:80" and each virtual host entry should begin with > "" and should contain one ServerName directive and any > relevant ServerAlias directives. The ServerName directive in your first > VirtualHost entry should probably be the same as your main ServerName > directive. I've corrected the problem. The only thing that had any effect was adding a port specification to the default virtual host. If it's set to port 80, everything starts working. This is accomplished through the HTTP Configuration tool by changing it from "Handle all remaining requests" to "Handle all requests on port: 80" Makes no sense to me, and seems like a some sort of bug... However I'm happy since my setup now works - I can now add my server's domain name into /etc/hosts, and be able to access my virtual hosts from the machine itself. I need /etc/hosts, because my Internet connection is somewhat flaky, and when it breaks GNOME goes insane, and takes forever to do anything at all, because it's constantly trying to resolve the machine name. -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From nman64 at n-man.com Thu May 5 21:25:15 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:25:15 -0500 Subject: gaim & something else In-Reply-To: <1115327156.3269.14.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <1115325173.3269.4.camel@sb-home.lan> <427A86BA.7090208@n-man.com> <1115327156.3269.14.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <427A8F3B.401@n-man.com> nodata wrote: >On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 15:48 -0500, Patrick Barnes wrote: > > >>Try opening Gaim's preferences and changing the sound options. Set the >>sound command to 'aplay %s' and see if that helps. You may also need to >>make sure ALSA's dmix/asym plugins are in use. You could alternatively >>set the sound command to playback through whatever sound server you use. >> >>-Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes >>nman64 at n-man.com >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> >> > >I've tried this, and adding the other options to .asoundrc, but new >message notifications are stilled queued until after realplayer finishes >a track. Annoying! > > > Then what you are seeing is RealPlayer using OSS and OSS not using dmix/asym. See my other post to try to get OSS to use dmix/asym. Pushing OSS through dmix will basically be your only option, short of using a second soundcard for RealPlayer. As far as I'm aware, there's no way to get RealPlayer to use anything but OSS. As I haven't used RealPlayer in a long time, I welcome any corrections. -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From scottt958 at yahoo.com.tw Thu May 5 21:57:18 2005 From: scottt958 at yahoo.com.tw (Scott Tsai) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 05:57:18 +0800 Subject: Request for Testing of Installer X Configuration on PPC References: <1115072500.5982.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 02 May 2005 18:21:40 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: PowerBook G4 15"(Titanium) cpu: 7455 667MHz revision: 3.3 (pvr 8001 0303) memory: 512MB video card: ATI Radeon Mobility M9(RV250M9) fbset reports "1280x854-60", the LCD native resolution. X came up flawlessly with 800x600 filling the whole screen. From smooge at gmail.com Thu May 5 22:36:40 2005 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:36:40 -0600 Subject: Valid Group names In-Reply-To: References: <80d7e40905050515003b6b3d23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80d7e40905050515364924d033@mail.gmail.com> Moved this to fedora-test-list as these may be 'pseudo-bugs' On 5/5/05, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > On 5/5/05, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > I think I am missing the obvious, but is there a page in the Wiki with > > the valid Group names that can be used when creating packages? > > /usr/share/doc/rpm-*/GROUPS > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RPMGroups > Thanks here are the packages outside of that list. I am guessing that GROUPS needs to be changed. Applications/Shells ksh Desktop/Accessibility dasher Desktop/Accessibility gnome-mag Desktop/Accessibility gnome-speech Desktop/Accessibility gnopernicus Desktop/Accessibility gok Development/Build Tools ant Development/Code Generators antlr Development/Java java_cup Development/Java ldapjdk Development/Java oro Development/Java struts11 Development/Testing junit Internet/WWW/Servers mod_jk Networking/Daemons tomcat5 Productivity/Security openCryptoki Security/Cryptography cryptix Security/Cryptography cryptix-asn1 Security/Cryptography gnu-crypto Security/Cryptography jessie System Environment/System diskdumputils System/Boot jakarta-commons-daemon System/Logging log4j Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse-bugzilla Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse-cdt Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse-changelog Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse-pydev Text Processing/Markup/XML xalan-j2 Text Processing/Markup/XML xerces-j2 Text Processing/Markup/XML xml-commons Text Processing/Markup/XML xml-commons-resolver Utilities jpackage-utils Utilities/System sg3_utils > -- > Konstantin Ryabitsev > Zlotniks, INC > -- Stephen J Smoogen. CSIRT/Linux System Administrator From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu May 5 22:40:20 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:40:20 -0400 Subject: Valid Group names In-Reply-To: <80d7e40905050515364924d033@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d7e40905050515003b6b3d23@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e40905050515364924d033@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115332820.3669.17.camel@cutter> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 16:36 -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > Moved this to fedora-test-list as these may be 'pseudo-bugs' > > On 5/5/05, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > On 5/5/05, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > > I think I am missing the obvious, but is there a page in the Wiki with > > > the valid Group names that can be used when creating packages? > > > > /usr/share/doc/rpm-*/GROUPS > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RPMGroups > > > > Thanks here are the packages outside of that list. I am guessing that > GROUPS needs to be changed. > > Applications/Shells ksh > Desktop/Accessibility dasher > Desktop/Accessibility gnome-mag > Desktop/Accessibility gnome-speech > Desktop/Accessibility gnopernicus > Desktop/Accessibility gok > Development/Build Tools ant > Development/Code Generators antlr > Development/Java java_cup > Development/Java ldapjdk > Development/Java oro > Development/Java struts11 > Development/Testing junit > Internet/WWW/Servers mod_jk > Networking/Daemons tomcat5 > Productivity/Security openCryptoki > Security/Cryptography cryptix > Security/Cryptography cryptix-asn1 > Security/Cryptography gnu-crypto > Security/Cryptography jessie > System Environment/System diskdumputils > System/Boot jakarta-commons-daemon > System/Logging log4j > Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse > Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse-bugzilla > Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse-cdt > Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse-changelog > Text Editors/Integrated Development Environments (IDE) eclipse-pydev > Text Processing/Markup/XML xalan-j2 > Text Processing/Markup/XML xerces-j2 > Text Processing/Markup/XML xml-commons > Text Processing/Markup/XML xml-commons-resolver > Utilities jpackage-utils > Utilities/System sg3_utils > Remove the list. -sv From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 5 23:56:12 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:56:12 +1000 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115120438.9147.1.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> <1115036388.3057.22.camel@hush> <1115041843.6021.20.camel@kj> <1115114911.4356.22.camel@goose> <1115120438.9147.1.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Message-ID: <1115337372.3783.8.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:40 -0300, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Ter, 2005-05-03 ?s 20:08 +1000, Rodd Clarkson escreveu: > > > Luckily, the gstreamer guys have compiled the rpms for gstreamer into a > > selection of packages that seperate the free codecs from the patented > > ones, which means you don't have to do much more than add the non-free > > ones to get support for them in Fedora. > > Even using those rpms, totem is still not that well-behaved. I just had > to reinstall mplayer so I could see some videos which woulnd't work with > totem correctly (strang sound, crappy video) Of course - and it goes without saying - please file bug reports for these files against the related gstreamer packages. This will help gstreamer become all that you wish it would be. Rodd -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel From rodd at clarkson.id.au Fri May 6 02:27:28 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:27:28 +1000 Subject: rawhide report: 20050505 changes In-Reply-To: <427A1529.9060106@wowway.com> References: <200505051213.j45CDYBo000353@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <427A1529.9060106@wowway.com> Message-ID: <1115346448.3783.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 08:44 -0400, Demond James wrote: > Build System wrote: > > > > > > >redhat-artwork-0.122-6 > >---------------------- > >* Tue May 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-6 > >- Add a symlink for openoffice icons so we have matching > > bluecurve icons instead of the ugly upstream ones > > > > > > > How do you circumvent this as I prefer the "ugly" upstream ones. Interestingly, the icons in the Applications menu are different to the icons in the panel for each OOo application (even though the launchers in the panel were dragged and dropped from the applications menu). Is this intentional? R. From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri May 6 04:34:16 2005 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:34:16 +0300 Subject: gcalctool Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18BE625A@eemail1.microlink.lan> On Thu 5/5/2005 11:40 PM, Paul wrote: > > gcalctool gives me 361 for 19*19 > > Showing 371 at this end! I get 371 for both if I change to Hex. Fred -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lists at sapience.com Fri May 6 05:12:16 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 01:12:16 -0400 Subject: kernel-smp hangs on boot (HT) In-Reply-To: <20050504035411.GA4362@sapience.com> References: <20050502032537.GA4318@sapience.com> <20050504035411.GA4362@sapience.com> Message-ID: <20050506051216.GA5008@sapience.com> I have some updates ... still fails tho ... On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 11:54:11PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:25:37PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > > > > All was well up to 1268 - starting with 1275 though 1286 > > the smp kernel fails to boot - it hangs here: > > > > Mounting root filesystem > > kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds > > EXT3-fs: mounted filesystems with ordered data mode > > Switching to new root. Starting with 1286 i get 2 more lines: unmounting old /proc unmounting old /sys Then it hangs - when it works (non-smp kernel) the next line is Selinux: disabled. Also - the smp kernel works fine on a dell 530 dual (non HT) p4. So this seems related to HT possibly. g/ From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Fri May 6 05:17:22 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 01:17:22 -0400 Subject: OT: nvidia drivers ppc, ppc64 In-Reply-To: <1115306610.3044.24.camel@sb-home.lan> References: <4274C7F6.1000408@gmx.de> <42767CE5.8020505@www.linux.org.uk> <1115306610.3044.24.camel@sb-home.lan> Message-ID: <427AFDE2.7080509@www.linux.org.uk> nodata wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 15:17 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: > [snip] > >>you're thanking me. ;o) The "nv" driver is source code provided >>by Nvidia which is obfuscated and generally only hackable by Nvidia, >>so it's more or less "as is" too. I can't take any credit for it > > > So it's not open source then :/ The source is MIT/X11 licensed, and you can do whatever you want with it more or less under the MIT license terms. Since the hardware is not documented publically at all, and the source code avoids documenting registers symbolically, etc. reading the nv driver source generally wont get you any closer to understanding how the hardware works. If you take a pedantic view of what "open source" means, then the 'nv' driver is not "open source" because it is not in the "preferred form", which would be fully symbolic naming of registers, et al. So the nv driver is more or less "you can compile this cryptic nonsense and use it perhaps." ;o) From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Fri May 6 05:50:50 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 01:50:50 -0400 Subject: Missing update announcements In-Reply-To: <6c18a4f05050509584792d76b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c18a4f05050509036a77b73e@mail.gmail.com> <1115311053.20494.17.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <6c18a4f05050509584792d76b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <427B05BA.7060007@www.linux.org.uk> Bernd Bartmann wrote: > Every of the missing announcements is much longer than 2 days out. > Here are the dates when the files appeared on the download mirror that > I use: > > perl-5.8.5-11.FC3, released 2005-04-27, #156366 > logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3.1, released 2005-04-26, #156367 > devhelp-0.9.2-2.3.2, released 2005-04-22, #156017 > epiphany-1.4.4-4.3.2, released 2005-04-22, #156016 > mozilla-1.7.7-1.3.1, released 2005-04-22, #156015 > logwatch-5.2.2-1.FC3, released 2005-04-21, #156014 > firefox-1.0.3-1.3.1, released 2005-04-19, #156013 > postfix-2.1.5-5, released 2005-03-17, #151588 > nfs-utils-1.0.6-52, released 2005-02-19, #149901 > > Up to now I have no script to monitor the missing announcement. I'm > still hoping that this problem is addressed in a way so that it cannot > happen again. I just take a look at my rsync mirror logs and compare > them to the announcements that appeared on the mailing list. If no > announcement comes out within two days after the rpms appear on the > download mirror I open up a bug in bugzilla. So far most rpm packagers > were helpful and sent out the announcement when they see the > bugreport. But sometimes even this fails :-( > Why is it not possible to automatically sent out the announcement > after the rpms are signed and the MD5 sums are known? > > Is it possible to trigger an email to the packager after the package > is signed? Something like a reminder "package is ready for > distribution, please sent out an announcement". Taking several steps back to look at the forest instead of being unable to see it for all the trees ... The more reliance a given "system" has on human beings to perform a set of steps, the more room said system has for human error. The current fedora-update mechanism is currently entirely human driven with almost zero automation, unlike the errata mechanisms used for Red Hat Linux in the past, and Red Hat Enterprise Linux currently. What the Fedora Project needs right now to "solve" this and other problems related to errata, is an automated errata tool system that handles as much of the process as can be automated, leaving the engineer to do developmental engineering and maintenance instead of doing manual human release engineering. There are different potential solutions, but the first thing that comes to mind, is a web based CGI solution, which allows an engineer to open an erratum ticket, file some initial basic details summarizing the problems being addressed, the nature of the issues (security fix, bug fix, enhancement), and then be able to follow each step of the errata release process one at a time through to final release of packages. The process should handle the creation of the advisory text, and references to CVE names and other URLs related to any security problems or bugs being fixed. There should be a field to indicate which Red Hat bug IDs are being fixed in the update. There should also be a way for the engineer to point the errata CGI to the generated rpms, and to request that they be signed by those who have RPM GPG signing priveledges. Once the rpms are signed, the next "state" in the process would be errata advisory text approval - how this is handled could be done different ways. Once the text is approved, then and only then would the system permit the files to be pushed out to mirrors, and once the files are pushed, the system would automatically send out the advisory text. This theoretical system should also have a mechanism in place to be able to handle embargoed security items, so that the errata process can be started early, and a date entered into the tool which prevents public release of the packages until the embargo date is reached. This automates prevention of accidental early disclosure of security issues rather than relying on humans to not make mistakes. Call me crazy, I don't know where I managed to get all these ideas from, but it all just came together in my mind somehow.[1] Now that there is at least one theoretical solution to the problem, if this solution were to be considered, we need the following: 1) Someone to design the detailed solution 2) Someone to implement the design and test it 3) Put the new system in place and start using it. In #1 and #2 above, "someone" could be either a Red Hat employee voluntarily taking on the task on their personal time, or it could be a Red Hat employee taking on the task under work time, or it could be a person in the community taking on the task. My personal thought, is that it wont happen by a Red Hat employee under company time, unless it is designated as a high priority task that needs to be addressed right away, which for better or worse, I don't think is the case right now. It could happen by a Red Hat employee on their own time, if someone is enthusiastic about it enough and has the personal time to spare, however I think if anyone had the time and was enthusiastic about it enough, that it would have been done by now. It's much easier to just keep using the existing manual system than to spend a few weeks manpower in one's personal time to do it. Doesn't really sound like a "fun" project to me that we're likely to see one scratch one's personal itch per se. My thought is that the only way we'll ever see a new fedora errata infrastructure come into existance, is if Red Hat decides it is high priority enough to allocate developer resources to solving the problem internally, or alternatively if someone in the community got highly motivated to design something and hack on it along with some input/advice from Red Hatters. Now that I've expressed my thoughts out loud, before anyone steps up to say "Ok Mike, great idea, now send us your patches and code to do this." (which tends to be a frequent common response when one suggests ideas about a solution to a problem), I'll be the first to admit I'm not personally interested in spending time coding the solution to this problem on or off company time. I suspect everyone feels the same or we'd have something by now perhaps. Nonetheless, I do put forth my opinions above on how this could be solved, in hopes that someone who does have a direct personal interest and the time to devote to the task, might find the motivation to take up the project and perhaps we'll end up with something to try out in the future. Until then, IMHO, there's a high likelyhood that Fedora updates will more or less continue to be inconsistently released in a fairly ad hoc manner. Remove humans from the process as much as possible, making computers do the work, and the problem mostly solves itself. TTYL From generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp Fri May 6 06:27:19 2005 From: generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp (Namikawa, Shozo) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:27:19 +0900 Subject: rawhide report: 20050504 changes In-Reply-To: <4279CDA9.3050706@olive.ocn.ne.jp> References: <200505041215.j44CFC3t000449@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <4279CDA9.3050706@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Message-ID: <427B0E47.5030008@olive.ocn.ne.jp> This problem is caused by unsetting pkg[7] valuse at getPackage() called by independency resolusion case. (def getPackage(): class YumRepoSource in module /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py .) 1) Therefore, I revised it to set a file passname within this function. 2) As cfg(/etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date) did not have a setting key of "Fedora/RPMS", I set it with a immeidiate value. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #rpmPath = pkg[7] #### coment to exception by independency resolusion baseFileName = "%s-%s-%s.%s.rpm" % (pkg[0], pkg[1], pkg[2], pkg[4]) #### ins rpmPath = "%s/%s" % ("Fedora/RPMS", baseFileName) #### ins ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Namikawa, Shozo wrote: > Standing alone up2date libswt3-gtk2, happend IndexError: list index > out of range, > up2date libswt3-gtk2 with eclipse to OK as follow. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [root at localhost generic]# up2date "libswt3*" > > -snip- > > Fetching rpm headers... > ######################################## > Name Version Rel > ---------------------------------------------------------- > libswt3-gtk2 3.1.0_fc > 0.M6.14 i386 > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > ######################################## > libswt3-gtk2-3.1.0_fc-0.M6. ########################## Done. > Error in sys.excepthook: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1231, in exceptionHandler > log = up2dateLog.initLog() > NameError: global name 'up2dateLog' is not defined > > Original exception was: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1264, in ? > sys.exit(main() or 0) > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 799, in main > fullUpdate, dryRun=options.dry_run)) > File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1136, in batchRun > batch.run() > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateBatch.py", line 87, in run > self.__getPackages() > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateBatch.py", line 168, in > __getPackages > up2date.getPackage(pkg, wrapperUtils.printPkg, > wrapperUtils.printRetrieveHash) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2date.py", line 178, in getPackage > buf = rpcServer.doCall(repos.getPackage, pkg, msgCallback, > progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpcServer.py", line 309, in doCall > ret = apply(method, args, kwargs) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 39, in > getPackage > return self.handlers[channel['type']].getPackage(pkg, msgCallback, > progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 186, in > getPackage > package = source.getPackage(pkg, MsgCallback, progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line > 124, in getPackage > rpmPath = pkg[7] > IndexError: list index out of range > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [root at localhost generic]# up2date "[le]*" > > -snip- > > Fetching rpm headers... > ######################################## > > Name Version Rel > ---------------------------------------------------------- > eclipse-bugzilla 0.1.0_fc > 14 i386 > eclipse-ecj 3.1.0_fc > 0.M6.14 i386 > eclipse-jdt 3.1.0_fc > 0.M6.14 i386 > eclipse-jdt-devel 3.1.0_fc > 0.M6.14 i386 > eclipse-pde 3.1.0_fc > 0.M6.14 i386 > eclipse-pde-devel 3.1.0_fc > 0.M6.14 i386 > eclipse-platform 3.1.0_fc > 0.M6.14 i386 > eclipse-platform-devel 3.1.0_fc > 0.M6.14 i386 > libswt3-gtk2 3.1.0_fc > 0.M6.14 i386 > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > ######################################## > eclipse-bugzilla-0.1.0_fc-1 ########################## Done. > eclipse-ecj-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.1 ########################## Done. > eclipse-jdt-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.1 ########################## Done. > eclipse-jdt-devel-3.1.0_fc- ########################## Done. > eclipse-pde-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.1 ########################## Done. > eclipse-pde-devel-3.1.0_fc- ########################## Done. > eclipse-platform-3.1.0_fc-0 ########################## Done. > eclipse-platform-devel-3.1. ########################## Done. > libswt3-gtk2-3.1.0_fc-0.M6. ########################## Done. > Preparing ########################################### [100%] > warning: eclipse-ecj-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.14: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, > key ID 30c9ecf8 > > Installing... > 1:eclipse-ecj ########################################### > [100%] > 2:libswt3-gtk2 ########################################### > [100%] > 3:eclipse-platform ########################################### > [100%] > 4:eclipse-jdt ########################################### > [100%] > 5:eclipse-jdt-devel ########################################### > [100%] > 6:eclipse-platform-devel ########################################### > [100%] > 7:eclipse-pde ########################################### > [100%] > 8:eclipse-bugzilla ########################################### > [100%] > 9:eclipse-pde-devel ########################################### > [100%] > The following wildcards did not match any packages: > [le]* > [root at localhost generic]# > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp Fri May 6 06:57:13 2005 From: generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp (Namikawa, Shozo) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:57:13 +0900 Subject: rawhide report: 20050504 changes In-Reply-To: <4279C889.3040905@olive.ocn.ne.jp> References: <200505041215.j44CFC3t000449@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <4279C889.3040905@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Message-ID: <427B1549.3080908@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Thanks Roger, In this case by the same way, avoiding boot problem with selinux=0. Namikawa, Shozo wrote: > Stop gdm while hal failed, after rawhide report: 20050504 changes. > Any rescue? > > "Server Authorization directory(daemon/ServAuthDir) is set to" > "/var/gdm but this dose not exist. Please correct gdm" > "configuration /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and restart gdm." > From mpeters at mac.com Fri May 6 07:09:56 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 00:09:56 -0700 Subject: gcalctool In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18BE625A@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18BE625A@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <1115363396.5000.1.camel@fc4t2.mpeters.local> On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 07:34 +0300, Fred New wrote: > On Thu 5/5/2005 11:40 PM, Paul wrote: > > > gcalctool gives me 361 for 19*19 > > > > Showing 371 at this end! > > I get 371 for both if I change to Hex. Really? You should get 271 in hex You certainly shouldn't get what looks like a _bigger_ number! From tony at tgds.net Fri May 6 07:11:20 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:11:20 +0200 Subject: kernel source rpm won't build In-Reply-To: <20050505113322.GA22028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1115283000.2911.6.camel@hush> <1115288968.6467.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115292306.2911.11.camel@hush> <20050505113322.GA22028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115363481.2830.1.camel@hush> Thanks for everybody's help. I have compiled kernel -1284 and then compiled a modified version of this kernel. I will now proceed to step 2... Cheers Tony From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri May 6 07:18:50 2005 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:18:50 +0300 Subject: gcalctool Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EBF8@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 6. mai 2005. a. 10:10, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 07:34 +0300, Fred New wrote: > > On Thu 5/5/2005 11:40 PM, Paul wrote: > > > > gcalctool gives me 361 for 19*19 > > > > > > Showing 371 at this end! > > > > I get 371 for both if I change to Hex. > > Really? > You should get 271 in hex > You certainly shouldn't get what looks like a _bigger_ number! > Doh. Well, it's 271 on my FC3 system, so I'm assuming it's the same on my FC4T2 system at home (where I originally tried it). Maybe I didn't get enough sleep last night. Fred From fedora at kjb.dds.nl Fri May 6 08:03:07 2005 From: fedora at kjb.dds.nl (Klaasjan Brand) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:03:07 +0200 Subject: Two latest kernels and udev In-Reply-To: <1115318181.3343.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115318181.3343.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115366587.3326.2.camel@isengard> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 20:36 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > I am not able to boot my computer using either of the two latest kernels > (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 and .1284). All that happens is during "Starting > udev" i get the error "MAKEDEV mkdir: File exists". Yet udev gets the > green "OK". It then hangs at "Initiating hardware...". > > Kernel .1282, .1276, and .1275 are all OK - they boot, no problem. > (there is an error "mknod: failed to create /dev/"{"console", "zero", > "null"}" 17" > > Anyone with similar experiences? > > This is a Dell Latitude c600/c500 laptop computer. > > Kyrre > Same thing here with .1284 i686... Klaasjan From alan at redhat.com Fri May 6 11:20:50 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:20:50 -0400 Subject: OT: nvidia drivers ppc, ppc64 In-Reply-To: <427AFDE2.7080509@www.linux.org.uk> References: <4274C7F6.1000408@gmx.de> <42767CE5.8020505@www.linux.org.uk> <1115306610.3044.24.camel@sb-home.lan> <427AFDE2.7080509@www.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: <20050506112050.GA3685@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 01:17:22AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: > is not documented publically at all, and the source code avoids > documenting registers symbolically, etc. reading the nv driver source > generally wont get you any closer to understanding how the hardware > works. Its quite readable if you read it in parallel with the register map data from the kernel driver or from rivatv. Its very easy to see how it works, its rather harder to add anything too it beyond debugging without docs though From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Fri May 6 11:21:40 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:21:40 -0300 Subject: Weird lockup Message-ID: <1115378500.4941.6.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> My machine is behaving strangely for about a month. It completely freezes when gnome's file dialog is about to appear. For instance, if I choose "save as" in gimp, my machine freezes - no mouse, no keyboard, no answer to ping. This happens also with firefox's upload file button in a html form, for instance to send a picture to fotolog. kernel is 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 Some of the installed versions are gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3 gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-15.0 gtk2-2.4.14-2.fc3 From than at redhat.com Fri May 6 12:16:11 2005 From: than at redhat.com (Than Ngo) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:16:11 +0200 Subject: artsd hanging. In-Reply-To: <1114986091.3252.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> References: <1114986091.3252.9.camel@RuneLinux.tamn.local> Message-ID: <427B600B.4000601@redhat.com> Robert Couture wrote: >Hello... > >With the latest Rawhide update, I am getting serious sound issues. > >I use KDE and ALSA is failing completely. I get failed to start sound >service messages on startup occasionally (but not always) I am also >getting failures in KNotify saying that KNotify has crashed trying to >start KNotify. > >I get no sound when trying to test sound with hardware set to Auto >Detect, yet I get sound when testing using Threaded Open Sound. > >I also receive CPU Overloaded - aborting messages and artsd is using >49-50% CPU for both User and System for almost a 100% usage total. > >Before the latest updates, I never did have Midi support. Now I have >Midi support showing up in Sound System which does not work. > >I have a cheap ES-1370 sound card that has given me no issues before now >(with the exception of Midi support.) > >Is anyone else experiencing these type of issues with the latest update? >Better yet, any suggestion for trouble shooting and fixing this >issue? :) > >Robert. > > > > it's a bug in alsa-lib, which has caused this problem, please update to alsa-lib-1.0.9rc2-4. Than From dwalsh at redhat.com Fri May 6 12:30:25 2005 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:30:25 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test Update: selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.2 Message-ID: <427B6361.10506@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2005-365 2005-05-06 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 3 Name : selinux-policy-targeted Version : 1.17.30 Release : 3.2 Summary : SELinux targeted policy configuration Description : Security-enhanced Linux is a patch of the Linux? kernel and a number of utilities with enhanced security functionality designed to add mandatory access controls to Linux. The Security-enhanced Linux kernel contains new architectural components originally developed to improve the security of the Flask operating system. These architectural components provide general support for the enforcement of many kinds of mandatory access control policies, including those based on the concepts of Type Enforcement?, Role-based Access Control, and Multi-level Security. This package contains the SELinux example policy configuration along with the Flask configuration information and the application configuration files. --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/ e16e8cbaace22c674f6d2df29dcd8627 SRPMS/selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.2.src.rpm b8824d929caf64e47f88cf005fab4ea3 x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.2.noarch.rpm ac5a4c050ffaa989d0e29d8151b22b83 x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.17.30-3.2.noarch.rpm b8824d929caf64e47f88cf005fab4ea3 i386/selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.2.noarch.rpm ac5a4c050ffaa989d0e29d8151b22b83 i386/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.17.30-3.2.noarch.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/$ARCH --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From tdiehl at rogueind.com Fri May 6 13:09:51 2005 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Two latest kernels and udev In-Reply-To: <1115366587.3326.2.camel@isengard> References: <1115318181.3343.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115366587.3326.2.camel@isengard> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 May 2005, Klaasjan Brand wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 20:36 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > I am not able to boot my computer using either of the two latest kernels > > (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 and .1284). All that happens is during "Starting > > udev" i get the error "MAKEDEV mkdir: File exists". Yet udev gets the > > green "OK". It then hangs at "Initiating hardware...". > > > > Kernel .1282, .1276, and .1275 are all OK - they boot, no problem. > > (there is an error "mknod: failed to create /dev/"{"console", "zero", > > "null"}" 17" > > > > Anyone with similar experiences? > > > > This is a Dell Latitude c600/c500 laptop computer. > > > > Kyrre > > > > Same thing here with .1284 i686... Same here on a Dell inspiron 2650. The previous kernel works fine. You might want to add comments to : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157019 In addition https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157023 appears to me to be a duplicate. Regards, Tom Diehl tdiehl at rogueind.com Spamtrap address mtd123 at rogueind.com From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri May 6 13:20:40 2005 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:20:40 +0300 Subject: Two latest kernels and udev Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EBFB@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 6. mai 2005. a. 16:10, Tom Diehl wrote > On Fri, 6 May 2005, Klaasjan Brand wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 20:36 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > I am not able to boot my computer using either of the two > > > latest kernels (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 and .1284). All that > > > happens is during "Starting udev" i get the error > > > "MAKEDEV mkdir: File exists". Yet udev gets the > > > green "OK". It then hangs at "Initiating hardware...". > > > > > > Kyrre > > > > > > > Same thing here with .1284 i686... > > Same here on a Dell inspiron 2650. The previous kernel works fine. > If you look at bug 156860, you will see that it was closed as a duplicate of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156862 and the latter says that a new udev is coming out. Fred From tdiehl at rogueind.com Fri May 6 13:28:07 2005 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Two latest kernels and udev In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EBFB@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EBFB@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 May 2005, Fred New wrote: > On 6. mai 2005. a. 16:10, Tom Diehl wrote > > On Fri, 6 May 2005, Klaasjan Brand wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 20:36 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > > I am not able to boot my computer using either of the two > > > > latest kernels (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 and .1284). All that > > > > happens is during "Starting udev" i get the error > > > > "MAKEDEV mkdir: File exists". Yet udev gets the > > > > green "OK". It then hangs at "Initiating hardware...". > > > > > > > > Kyrre > > > > > > > > > > Same thing here with .1284 i686... > > > > Same here on a Dell inspiron 2650. The previous kernel works fine. > > > > If you look at bug 156860, you will see that it was closed > as a duplicate of > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156862 > and the latter says that a new udev is coming out. Cool. Looks like there are several duplicates then. I missed the above in my query. Regards, Tom Diehl tdiehl at rogueind.com Spamtrap address mtd123 at rogueind.com From tdiehl at rogueind.com Fri May 6 13:42:10 2005 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Two latest kernels and udev In-Reply-To: References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EBFB@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: Sorry to reply to my own post but... On Fri, 6 May 2005, Tom Diehl wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2005, Fred New wrote: > > > On 6. mai 2005. a. 16:10, Tom Diehl wrote > > > On Fri, 6 May 2005, Klaasjan Brand wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 20:36 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > > > I am not able to boot my computer using either of the two > > > > > latest kernels (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 and .1284). All that > > > > > happens is during "Starting udev" i get the error > > > > > "MAKEDEV mkdir: File exists". Yet udev gets the > > > > > green "OK". It then hangs at "Initiating hardware...". > > > > > > > > > > Kyrre > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same thing here with .1284 i686... > > > > > > Same here on a Dell inspiron 2650. The previous kernel works fine. > > > > > > > If you look at bug 156860, you will see that it was closed > > as a duplicate of > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156862 > > and the latter says that a new udev is coming out. Well OK, maybe this will fix it. After actually looking at 15682 I cannot see any mention of the machine hanging or the errors described above. Since switching kernels fixes the problem, it would seem more logical that something changed when the kernel versions changed. Since there is a lot going on here that I do not understand, I suppose it could be a udev problem. Only time and some new packages will tell. :-) Tom Diehl tdiehl at rogueind.com Spamtrap address mtd123 at rogueind.com From johnp at redhat.com Fri May 6 13:48:27 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:48:27 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050505 changes In-Reply-To: <1115346448.3783.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <200505051213.j45CDYBo000353@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <427A1529.9060106@wowway.com> <1115346448.3783.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1115387307.11506.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 22:27, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 08:44 -0400, Demond James wrote: > > Build System wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >redhat-artwork-0.122-6 > > >---------------------- > > >* Tue May 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-6 > > >- Add a symlink for openoffice icons so we have matching > > > bluecurve icons instead of the ugly upstream ones > > > > > > > > > > > How do you circumvent this as I prefer the "ugly" upstream ones. > > Interestingly, the icons in the Applications menu are different to the > icons in the panel for each OOo application (even though the launchers > in the panel were dragged and dropped from the applications menu). > > Is this intentional? Nope, please file a bug. Thanks. From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri May 6 13:50:51 2005 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:50:51 +0300 Subject: Two latest kernels and udev Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EBFC@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 6. mai 2005. a. 16:28, Tom Diehl wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2005, Fred New wrote: > > > > If you look at bug 156860, you will see that it was closed > > as a duplicate of > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156862 > > and the latter says that a new udev is coming out. > > Cool. Looks like there are several duplicates then. I missed the > above in my query. > Yeh, Bugzilla doesn't search as easily as Google. It would be good if there were a "pending closed" status that would automatically go to "closed" after 3-4 days so the simple searches could include the "pending closed" without searching the closed. I mentioned 156860 is because it matches your bug pretty closely. And 156862 mentions how you can edit /sbin/mkinitrd so you can re-create your initrd file to work around the problem. You will need to restore /sbin/mkinitrd when the new udev comes out. Fred From johnp at redhat.com Fri May 6 13:52:14 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:52:14 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050505 changes In-Reply-To: <427A1529.9060106@wowway.com> References: <200505051213.j45CDYBo000353@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <427A1529.9060106@wowway.com> Message-ID: <1115387534.11506.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 08:44, Demond James wrote: > Build System wrote: > > > > > > >redhat-artwork-0.122-6 > >---------------------- > >* Tue May 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-6 > >- Add a symlink for openoffice icons so we have matching > > bluecurve icons instead of the ugly upstream ones > > > > > > > How do you circumvent this as I prefer the "ugly" upstream ones. Well, ugly in that they didn't match the theme. I only changed these for bluecurve and anything that inherits bluecurve (Clearlooks). Any other icon theme will have the upstream icons or if you like bluecurve you can make a new theme based on bluecurve and delete the openoffice-19-* symlinks. -- J5 From fedora at nodata.co.uk Fri May 6 14:19:44 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:19:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: rawhide report: 20050505 changes In-Reply-To: <1115387307.11506.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200505051213.j45CDYBo000353@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <427A1529.9060106@wowway.com> <1115346448.3783.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115387307.11506.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45382.213.164.3.90.1115389184.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 22:27, Rodd Clarkson wrote: >> On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 08:44 -0400, Demond James wrote: >> > Build System wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >redhat-artwork-0.122-6 >> > >---------------------- >> > >* Tue May 03 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-6 >> > >- Add a symlink for openoffice icons so we have matching >> > > bluecurve icons instead of the ugly upstream ones >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > How do you circumvent this as I prefer the "ugly" upstream ones. >> >> Interestingly, the icons in the Applications menu are different to the >> icons in the panel for each OOo application (even though the launchers >> in the panel were dragged and dropped from the applications menu). >> >> Is this intentional? > > Nope, please file a bug. Thanks. > And the icons in the panel seem better than the new bluecurve ones *hides* From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri May 6 14:21:32 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:21:32 +0200 Subject: Two latest kernels and udev In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EBFC@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EBFC@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <427B7D6C.1070004@gmx.de> Fred New wrote: >Yeh, Bugzilla doesn't search as easily as Google. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/query.cgi?format=advanced bug changes Only bugs changed in the last n days were changed between y-m-d and y-m-d ... >It would be good if there were a "pending closed" status that would >automatically go to "closed" after 3-4 days so the simple >searches could include the "pending closed" without searching >the closed. > rofl :-)))) 1 day = 1/4 closed 2 days = 1/2 closed 3 days = 3/4 closed 4 days = closed 1 day = 1/4 new 2 days = 1/2 new 3 days = 3/4 new 4 days = new 1 day = 1/4 needinfo 2 days = 1/2 needinfo 3 days = 3/4 needinfo 4 days = needinfo ... -- shrek-m From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 6 14:48:36 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:48:36 +0000 Subject: Hard drive problem - not sure of the solution Message-ID: <20050506144836.M80307@all-the-johnsons.co.uk> Hi, After an update last week (the one with the initscripts problem), my machine at work decided that life was no longer worth living and decided that booting would let me get as far as giving the PIDs to network devices then fail. On the machine at home, I was able to get back in by using RIP Linux and disabling various services (namely clamav). I tried to do this at work, but have found that I am unable to mount /dev/hda2 (fsck moans about the superblock being corrupt). I have a feeling this is not the case as if I boot up normally (using the graphical boot), the graphical boot works upto the setting of the PIDs for the network. Also, as /etc is being accessed for the likes of network.d, /dev/hda2 should be happy. Has anyone got any ideas on how to fix this problem? I've used the following for the values of the superblock: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632, 2654208, 4096000, 7962624, 11239424 and also tried using e2fsck -B 4096 (mke2fs -n has given this as the block size). TTFN Paul -- Get your free @ukpost.com account now http://www.ukpost.com/ From flodense at ajusd.org Fri May 6 15:15:58 2005 From: flodense at ajusd.org (FRANK LODENSE) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:15:58 -0700 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test 2 64-bit - SATA Problem Message-ID: <20050506150121.M80279@ajusd.org> I recently installed Fedora Core 4 Test 2 64-bit on a Supermicro 7044H-TR server. It has a Super X6DHT-G motherboard which has a 6300ESB SATA controller onboard. I also have a Marvell 88SX6081 SATA controller installed. I had no problems with the onboard 6300ESB controller. I was able to see the hard drives hooked to it during install and use them. My problem lies with the Marvell controller. After installation I am unable to see any of the drives I have attached to the Marvell controller. In total I have 10 sata drives in the system, 2 are attached to the onboard controller and 8 are attached to the Marvell controller. When I do an lsmod I see that the ata_piix module is being used by 10 devices, but there are only dev files for sda/sdb, the two drives hooked to the onboard controller. Any suggestions would be a great help, thanks in advance. Frank L'Odense Network Applications Engineer Apache Junction Unified School District Phone: 480-982-1110 Ext. 2041 From fedora at leemhuis.info Fri May 6 15:41:29 2005 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:41:29 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test 2 64-bit - SATA Problem In-Reply-To: <20050506150121.M80279@ajusd.org> References: <20050506150121.M80279@ajusd.org> Message-ID: <1115394089.5880.1.camel@notebook.thl.home> Am Freitag, den 06.05.2005, 08:15 -0700 schrieb FRANK LODENSE: > I recently installed Fedora Core 4 Test 2 64-bit on a Supermicro 7044H-TR > server. It has a Super X6DHT-G motherboard which has a 6300ESB SATA > controller onboard. I also have a Marvell 88SX6081 SATA controller installed. From: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/sata-status.html#marvell > Marvell 88SX50[48]x > Summary: Similar to ServerWorks "frodo": per-device queues, full SATA > control including hotplug. The 88SX50xx series supports TCQ, but not > NCQ or PM. The 88SX60x1 series supports TCQ, NCQ, and PM. > > libata driver status: stalled. The first line says 88SX50[48]x but probably "stalled" means the 88SX60x1 series also. So no Linux driver currently. :-( -- Thorsten Leemhuis From buildsys at redhat.com Fri May 6 15:48:18 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:48:18 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050506 changes Message-ID: <200505061548.j46FmIeI017281@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Removed package dev86 Updated Packages: GFS-6.1-0.pre22.3 ----------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. * Wed Dec 22 2004 Chris Feist - Added code to re-read sysctl.conf. * Mon Dec 20 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. GFS-kernel-2.6.11.5-20050505.133825.FC4.0 ----------------------------------------- anaconda-10.2.0.61-1 -------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Jeremy Katz - 10.2.0.61-1 - and fix pkgorder for the gfs stuff * Thu May 05 2005 Jeremy Katz - 10.2.0.60-1 - Better handling of the langsupport group (clumens) - Don't install the gfs stuff for all kernel variants, that brings in kernel-smp on an everything install (#156849) - Don't grow a partition beyond the largest freespace on a drive - HFS+ support - Pull in more selinux policy files to try to get /home labeled right - Fix typo causing segfault (pnasrat) ant-0:1.6.2-3jpp_6fc -------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson 0:1.6.2-3jpp_6fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). booty-0.52-1 ------------ * Wed May 04 2005 Jeremy Katz - 0.52-1 - add enablecdboot, enableofboot, and enablenetboot to yaboot.conf - try to detect mac os x and set up dual boot on pmac * Mon May 02 2005 Jeremy Katz - add handling for sx8 device names ccs-0.25-0.4 ------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. cman-1.0-0.pre33.7 ------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. * Mon Dec 20 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. * Mon Dec 13 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. comps-extras-10.3-1 ------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Bill Nottingham - 10.3-1 - updated icons () ethereal-0.10.11-1 ------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Radek Vokal 0.10.11-1 - update to upstream, many security flaws fixed evolution-connector-2.2.2-3 --------------------------- * Wed May 04 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-3 - updated noinst patch: libexchange is now a convenience library again; use -R syntax to express path to Evolution's private libraries rather than -Wl since libtool cannot properly intrepret the latter; regenerated resulting patch. * Mon May 02 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-2 - disabling noinst patch as not yet applied * Mon Apr 11 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-1 - 2.2.2 fence-1.27-3 ------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. gimp-print-4.2.7-6 ------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Bill Nottingham 4.2.7-6 - hardlink cups ppds gjdoc-0.7.4-5 ------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Andrew Overholt 0.7.4-5 - Add patch to handle single quotes in options (Julian Scheid). - Add patch to handle lack of whitespace before member names (Julian). gnome-desktop-2.10.0-1 ---------------------- * Thu Mar 17 2005 Ray Strode - 2.10.0-1 - Update to upstream version 2.10.0 * Wed Mar 02 2005 Mark McLoughlin 2.9.91-3 - Rebuild with gcc4 * Mon Feb 21 2005 Than Ngo 2.9.91-2 - gnome-about only in GNOME-menu gphoto2-2.1.5-8 --------------- * Mon May 02 2005 David Zeuthen 2.1.5-8 - Build and install hal device information files * Tue Mar 29 2005 Tim Waugh - Re-enable docs. * Mon Mar 28 2005 Matthias Clasen 2.1.5-7 - Rebuild against newer libexif gtk-doc-1.3-2 ------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Matthias Clasen 1.3-1 - accept ':' in ids gulm-1.0-0.pre28.6 ------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. hwdata-0.157-1 -------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Jeremy Katz - 0.157-1 - add 20" Apple Cinema Display jakarta-commons-beanutils-0:1.7.0-1jpp_3fc ------------------------------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.7.0-1jpp_3fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). jakarta-commons-collections-0:3.1-1jpp_3fc ------------------------------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson - 0:3.1-1jpp_3fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). jakarta-commons-digester-0:1.6-2jpp_3fc --------------------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.6-2jpp_3fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). jakarta-commons-el-0:1.0-2jpp_2fc --------------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.0-2jpp_2fc - BC-compile. jakarta-commons-logging-0:1.0.4-2jpp_3fc ---------------------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.0.4-2jpp_3fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). jakarta-commons-modeler-0:1.1-3jpp_3fc -------------------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.1-3jpp_3fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). mc-1:4.6.1a-0.9 --------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Jindrich Novy 4.6.1a-0.9 - update from CVS - sync with .utf8 patch - fix broken charset conversion feature in the .utf8 patch, Andrew V. Samoilov (#154516) mozilla-37:1.7.7-3 ------------------ * Wed May 04 2005 Christopher Aillon 37:1.7.7-3 - Fix for some more cursor issues in textareas (149991, 150002, 152089) - Add upstream patch to fix bidi justification of pango - Add patch to fix launching of helper applications * Tue May 03 2005 Christopher Aillon - Add patch from Marcel Mol supporting launching with filenames containing whitespace * Wed Apr 27 2005 Warren Togami - remove JVM version probing (#116445) - correct confusing PANGO vars in startup script mx4j-1:2.1.0-1jpp_6fc --------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson 0:2.1.0-1jpp_6fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). regexp-0:1.3-1jpp_5fc --------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson 0:1.3-1jpp_5fc - BC-compile. rgmanager-1.9.31-2 ------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. rhpl-0.162-2 ------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Jeremy Katz - 0.162-1 - look up monitor in MonitorsDB if we can't probe horiz/vert tomcat5-0:5.0.30-5jpp_4fc ------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson 0:5.0.30-5jpp_4fc - Remove references to the never used commons-daemon. - Add a runtime dependency on puretls. * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson 0:5.0.30-5jpp_3fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). udev-057-4 ---------- * Thu May 05 2005 Bill Nottingham - 057-4 - better check for mounted tmpfs on /dev (#156862) xerces-j2-0:2.6.2-4jpp_5fc -------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson 0:2.6.2-4jpp_5fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). xml-commons-0:1.0-0.b2.6jpp_12fc -------------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.0-0.b2.6jpp_12fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). yum-2.3.2-2 ----------- * Thu May 05 2005 Jeremy Katz - 2.3.2-2 - handle ppc64/sparc64 "correctly" From dano01sk at hotmail.com Fri May 6 16:58:19 2005 From: dano01sk at hotmail.com (Dano) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:58:19 +0200 Subject: i875P RAID0 References: <20050505094003.115287389B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Nice day And ... where is the problem? TrueImage, linux based recovery system support this controller, and fedora, 1-y developing system doesn't have it ... Dano > Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:54:50 -0700 > From: Jesse Keating > Subject: Re: i875P RAID0 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <1115232890.28515.29.camel at jkeating2.hq.pogolinux.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 17:56 +0200, Dano wrote: >> could somebody write, how to install fedore core ... (or any boot >> parameters for kernel, test release 3.91, Fedora Core 4 test 2), >> because the error is, that drive sdb (not sure) is unreadble. >> Motherboard Intel Bonanza 875 PBZ, RAID 0 + 2x S-ATA 150 80GB. >> > > Installing to winraid of onboard RAID controllers is not yet supported. > Please try your install with a non-raid setup. From fedora at leemhuis.info Fri May 6 17:24:05 2005 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:24:05 +0200 Subject: i875P RAID0 In-Reply-To: References: <20050505094003.115287389B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115400245.5880.21.camel@notebook.thl.home> Am Freitag, den 06.05.2005, 18:58 +0200 schrieb Dano: > And ... where is the problem? TrueImage, linux based recovery system support > this controller, and fedora, 1-y developing system doesn't have it ... The ICH5R and ICH6R (in your i875) are supported by http://iswraid.sourceforge.net/ on 2.4 Kernels (probably TrueImage uses one) This support is not available in 2.6 Kernels. You have to use dmraid http://people.redhat.com/~heinzm/sw/dmraid/ to get it to work. It works quite well afaik but there are still problems. CU thl > > Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:54:50 -0700 > > From: Jesse Keating > > Subject: Re: i875P RAID0 > > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > Message-ID: <1115232890.28515.29.camel at jkeating2.hq.pogolinux.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 17:56 +0200, Dano wrote: > >> could somebody write, how to install fedore core ... (or any boot > >> parameters for kernel, test release 3.91, Fedora Core 4 test 2), > >> because the error is, that drive sdb (not sure) is unreadble. > >> Motherboard Intel Bonanza 875 PBZ, RAID 0 + 2x S-ATA 150 80GB. > >> > > > > Installing to winraid of onboard RAID controllers is not yet supported. > > Please try your install with a non-raid setup. -- Thorsten Leemhuis A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From florin at andrei.myip.org Fri May 6 17:44:34 2005 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:44:34 -0700 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1115401474.25376.26.camel@stantz.corp.sgi.com> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 16:08 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > Xine certainly had a jump start on gstreamer, but I believe that > gstreamer tries to do a little more than xine in terms of functionality. > Regardless, with GNOME using is for the media backend and KDE very > seriously looking at it (offering the chance at a unified media > framework across desktops - a Good Thing (TM) in my opinion*) Fedora > would be made to ignore it. Fully agree. I'm a bit of a Xine fan myself, and i think that currently it still is the "overall best" media player (on par with mplayer for regular media files, plus it handles DVDs a lot better). But definitely gstreamer has a better architecture. There's no need for bashing either project. Both are great. Just use whatever suits your needs. My feeling is that gstreamer will legitimately become the media player of choice for the majority of users at some point in the future. It's just a matter of time until all the major media formats are handled by gstreamer plugins. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From florin at andrei.myip.org Fri May 6 17:52:13 2005 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:52:13 -0700 Subject: Openoffice media player In-Reply-To: <1115036388.3057.22.camel@hush> References: <1114866971.3343.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114876628.3782.6.camel@isengard> <1114903233.4740.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1114905724.13961.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <1114949192.3609.6.camel@goose> <1115012753.3966.8.camel@hush> <1115014127.3795.46.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115024647.4103.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1115034434.6021.5.camel@kj> <1115036388.3057.22.camel@hush> Message-ID: <1115401933.25376.33.camel@stantz.corp.sgi.com> On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 14:19 +0200, tony wrote: > Le lundi 02 mai 2005 ? 13:47 +0200, Klaasjan Brand a ?crit : > > You can try the gstreamer-ffmpeg module (not packaged in an easy way > > afaik) or replace Totem with Totem-xine. (see rpm.livna.org) > > I have an even better solution: xine with a xine front end... Everything > else comes from livna and dag yum repositories (ffmpeg, dvd..., > libfoo...). "Better solution"? Short term yes. But long term no. Trust me, have a look at the gstreamer architecture. I'm a Xine fan, i use it all the time, i tell other people to use it and i contributed a little to the project, and yes, currently seems to be the overall best player. But gstreamer is so much more than just a media player. It's like Xine + Enix (remember Enix? the now-dead twin of xine that was aiming to provide an encoding platform) plus a lot more. It's still in a pretty early stage, while Xine is a mature project, therefore it's normal that Xine is currently better for end-users. > And by the way, the totem interface is as ugly as sin. (Just had to get > that out of my system) Well, both xine and gstreamer allow you to use any arbitrary interface you like. You can even write your own. ;-) -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From notting at redhat.com Fri May 6 18:20:38 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:20:38 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test 3 notice - slip Message-ID: <20050506182038.GB32231@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Due to some last-minute problems that required fixing, we're going to push out the release of Fedora Core 4 Test 3 one day. It's now scheduled for Tuesday, May 10, at 10AM EDT (1400 UTC). Bill From rad at radfiles.net Fri May 6 19:08:54 2005 From: rad at radfiles.net (Brian Rademacher) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:08:54 -0600 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test 2 64-bit - SATA Problem References: <20050506150121.M80279@ajusd.org> Message-ID: <001701c5526f$1b223000$b0610346@904167SOSLA> Not only is their no support for that controller, there is also no driver that appears to work under Fedora Core 4...I compiled the driver from the source code that ABIT has and it fails when the drives are under high load (drives time out and never come back).. I've had a nice server with an ABIT SU-2S sitting around for months doing nothing because of this... You also won't get any support from Marvell because they do not support end users... Good luck - My solution to the problem is likely going to be to sell my motherboard and start over... ----- Original Message ----- From: "FRANK LODENSE" To: Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:15 AM Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test 2 64-bit - SATA Problem >I recently installed Fedora Core 4 Test 2 64-bit on a Supermicro 7044H-TR > server. It has a Super X6DHT-G motherboard which has a 6300ESB SATA > controller onboard. I also have a Marvell 88SX6081 SATA controller > installed. > I had no problems with the onboard 6300ESB controller. I was able to see > the > hard drives hooked to it during install and use them. My problem lies > with > the Marvell controller. After installation I am unable to see any of the > drives I have attached to the Marvell controller. In total I have 10 sata > drives in the system, 2 are attached to the onboard controller and 8 are > attached to the Marvell controller. When I do an lsmod I see that the > ata_piix module is being used by 10 devices, but there are only dev files > for > sda/sdb, the two drives hooked to the onboard controller. Any suggestions > would be a great help, thanks in advance. > > Frank L'Odense > Network Applications Engineer > Apache Junction Unified School District > Phone: 480-982-1110 Ext. 2041 > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From johnp at redhat.com Fri May 6 20:28:14 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:28:14 -0400 Subject: A new FC3 pygtk2 package has been released for testing Message-ID: <1115411293.11506.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> Version 2.4.1 of the python gtk bindings have been build and need some testing. Specifically I want to make sure it doesn't break any of our current or 3rd party pygtk applications and to see if it fixes bug#144236. Please submit all reports back to bug#144236 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=144236 In the absence of any negative feedback I will push the package Wed, May 11th. Thank you. -- J5 From johnp at redhat.com Fri May 6 20:33:35 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:33:35 -0400 Subject: A new FC3 pygtk2 package has been released for testing In-Reply-To: <1115411293.11506.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115411293.11506.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115411615.11506.62.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sorry, a bit tired. Here is the formal announcement. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2005-367 2005-05-06 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 3 Name : pygtk2 Version : 2.4.1 Release : fc3.1 Summary : Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set. Description : PyGTK is an extension module for python that gives you access to the GTK+ widget set. Just about anything you can write in C with GTK+ you can write in python with PyGTK (within reason), but with all the benefits of python. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri May 6 2005 John (J5) Palmieri - 2.4.1-fc3.1 - Update to fix bug #14423 --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/ 69ebe0e8443fecc23863cd82f2c3a480 SRPMS/pygtk2-2.4.1-fc3.1.src.rpm 8972efb88048db2d2f77cdc0155267ff x86_64/pygtk2-2.4.1-fc3.1.x86_64.rpm 8b344d23e658239e6f4a321ab6bc7894 x86_64/pygtk2-libglade-2.4.1-fc3.1.x86_64.rpm 77210e92d1445c831b6fe3b0c2b92434 x86_64/pygtk2-devel-2.4.1-fc3.1.x86_64.rpm 1bbc697b4c24c50535f6fd3eb952bf24 x86_64/debug/pygtk2-debuginfo-2.4.1-fc3.1.x86_64.rpm 6c72e2404f044b5c47dea17135a25988 i386/pygtk2-2.4.1-fc3.1.i386.rpm 97599399f03fc14da11a6d5c5880d635 i386/pygtk2-libglade-2.4.1-fc3.1.i386.rpm 8b27dcfee7b4337584c8cf46e8cc8cd6 i386/pygtk2-devel-2.4.1-fc3.1.i386.rpm 984cc48b73b3253a1e4ee12a6182ba27 i386/debug/pygtk2-debuginfo-2.4.1-fc3.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/$ARCH --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kahlriab at mailbox.tu-berlin.de Sat May 7 00:01:32 2005 From: kahlriab at mailbox.tu-berlin.de (Oliver Kahl) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 02:01:32 +0200 Subject: CD boot problem with FC4test1 AND test2 In-Reply-To: <426AC4C0.6000900@mailbox.tu-berlin.de> References: <426ABEAC.9040408@mailbox.tu-berlin.de> <426AC4C0.6000900@mailbox.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <427C055C.1010107@mailbox.tu-berlin.de> Ok, I had the time to make more tests an found out, that upgrade to ISOLINUX 3.08 3.08-pre8 would fix the "boot:"-prompt problem on dell c600 latitude! If anybody find out the same, also at oher platforms, let is know us! You could get the latest version from: http://syslinux.zytor.com/ this would take you to: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/ look into the folder "Testing". Ups, pre-10 is out, ok I test it also this night or next day with the dell and write down the result here! From paul at permanentmail.com Sat May 7 00:53:45 2005 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:53:45 -0700 Subject: FC4-test2 latest: Sound stops (alsa/xmms/crossfade/arts) Message-ID: <20050506175345.48ea5e20.paul@permanentmail.com> After xmms has been running for about a day, it will not start playing a new track. This can happen either while xmms is playing or pressing play after xmms has been stopped for a while. Getting it to work again requires exiting xmms, then "killall xmms", and then a "alsactl restore", and finbally restarting xmms. If I don't do the killall, then the buttons on the side of the notebook won't control xmms ("Couldn't grab XF86Audio{Next,Prev,Play,Stop): another client may already have done so"). Before killing xmms today (after exiting the program) there where two process remaining: one started yesterday in state SLl, the other started 6 hours earlier in state Ss. The crossfade plugin is using the output plugin "ALSA 1.2.10 output plugin". Ogg123 can play music while xmms can't. Last week, while playing Konquest this happened and I got a lot of aRts errors stateing something like the server was too busy. Eventually, I got a big error window that said I could disable aRts (or somnething to that effect) and I haven't seen these errors since. Should I file a bugzilla report? Against which package? I'm using: xmms-crossfade-0.3.8-4 xmms-1.2.10-15 alsa-utils-1.0.9rc2-1 -Paul From byte at aeon.com.my Sat May 7 05:35:17 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:35:17 +1000 Subject: FC4T2 on PPC64 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115444117.3718.5.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 11:00 -0400, Joe.Hoot at itec.suny.edu wrote: > Has anyone had issues with their system shutting down after a small > amount of load? I installed FC4T2 on PPC64 (dual proc G5). The > system, for the most part, stays up. However, every once in awhile it > crashes/powers off. This ocurrs within seconds of running a command > (seems to be random commands. Probably something that access disk > such as yum check-update or a grep or find). Anything in the logs? Want to setup debugging (using netconsole). xmon isn't compiled into kernels by default, so debugging that way is going to be hard Want to upgrade to Rawhide latest? -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From roger at gwch.net Sat May 7 09:37:34 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:37:34 +0200 Subject: Kernel .1284 and udev Message-ID: <427C8C5E.6060501@gwch.net> Hi, after last update with udev, kernel 1284 works fine, even with selinux. Roger From roger at gwch.net Sat May 7 09:46:14 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:46:14 +0200 Subject: Kernel .1286 Message-ID: <427C8E66.5040808@gwch.net> Hi, After installing the last Kernel, i get refused the login in runlevel 5. May 7 10:59:03 neo gdm[2932]: session_child_run: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession default could not be executed Roger From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Sat May 7 11:04:34 2005 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:04:34 +0200 Subject: Kernel .1286 In-Reply-To: <427C8E66.5040808@gwch.net> References: <427C8E66.5040808@gwch.net> Message-ID: <427CA0C2.1050001@feuerpokemon.de> Roger Grosswiler wrote: > Hi, > > After installing the last Kernel, i get refused the login in runlevel 5. > > May 7 10:59:03 neo gdm[2932]: session_child_run: > /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession default could not be executed > > Roger > any selinux warnings in dmesg? does it work with enforcing=0 ? From buildsys at redhat.com Sat May 7 12:06:17 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 08:06:17 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050507 changes Message-ID: <200505071206.j47C6Hid003879@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Removed package jakarta-commons-daemon Updated Packages: GFS-6.1-0.pre22.4 ----------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleaned up .spec file and %files section. * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. * Wed Dec 22 2004 Chris Feist - Added code to re-read sysctl.conf. GFS-kernel-2.6.11.5-20050505.133825.FC4.2 ----------------------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleanup spec file and fix %files section. ccs-0.25-0.9 ------------ * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleanup .spec file to not include globs. cman-1.0-0.pre33.8 ------------------ cman-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.11 ------------------------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleaned up .spec file. dlm-1.0-0.pre21.4 ----------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleaned up .spec file. * Mon Dec 20 2004 Chris Feist - various bug fixes (new upstream sources) * Fri Dec 10 2004 Chris Feist - various bug fixes (new upstream sources) dlm-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.13 ------------------------------------------ * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleaned up .spec file. eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M6.15 -------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Andrew Overholt 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.15 - Rebuild with new gjdoc (rh#152049). * Wed May 04 2005 Ben Konrath - Re-enable jdt.ui/jdt.jar.so and require gcj 4.0.0-2 (rh#151296). eclipse-bugzilla-1:0.1.0_fc-15 ------------------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Jeff Pound 0.1.0_fc-15 - Fix provider expansion when adding queries. - Add name parings for default urls. fence-1.27-10 ------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleaned up spec file (bz #157031). gnbd-1.0-0.pre13.2 ------------------ * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleanup .spec file, don't glob /usr/share/man. * Mon Dec 20 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. * Mon Dec 13 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.15 ------------------------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleanup .spec file. Don't include file globs anymore. gulm-1.0-0.pre28.7 ------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Bill Nottingham - fix chkconfig line gulm-1.0-0.pre28.9 ------------------ * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - fixed various problems with .spec file * Thu May 05 2005 Bill Nottingham - fix chkconfig line iddev-1.9-20 ------------ * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleaned up .spec file. kernel-2.6.11-1.1287_FC4 ------------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 David Woodhouse - Import audit fixes from upstream magma-1.0-0.pre21.7 ------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - .spec file cleanup magma-plugins-1.0-0.pre16.12 ---------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleaned up spec file (i386 i486 i586 i686 pentium3 pentium4 athlon, %files) mx4j-1:2.1.0-1jpp_7fc --------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Gary Benson 0:2.1.0-1jpp_7fc - Fix ownership in /usr/share/java. rgmanager-1.9.31-3 ------------------ struts11-0:1.1-1jpp_5fc ----------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.1-1jpp_5fc - BC-compile. system-config-bind-4.0.0-14_FC4 ------------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 4.0.0-14 - fix out-of-zone data reporting - fix bug 156913: wrong file permissions for config files * Wed May 04 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 4.0.0-12 - fix bug 156884: handle named.conf with NO options clause . system-config-date-1.7.18-1 --------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen 1.7.18 - make desktop file translatable (#156792) - avoid DeprecationWarnings - use DESTDIR consistently (#156782) system-config-nfs-1.3.9-1 ------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen 1.3.9 - make desktop file rebuild consistently * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen 1.3.8 - make desktop file translatable (#156796) - use DESTDIR consistently (#156786) system-config-samba-1.2.31-1 ---------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen - 1.2.31 - use DESTDIR consistently * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen - 1.2.30 - make desktop file translatable (#156798) system-config-services-0.8.24-1 ------------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen - 0.8.24 - make "make update-po" pick up translatable strings in desktop file (#156801) * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen - 0.8.23 - pick up new translations system-config-users-1.2.37-1 ---------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen - 1.2.37 - make About menu entry translate (#156793) * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen - 1.2.36 - use DESTDIR consistently * Wed May 04 2005 Nils Philippsen - make desktop file translatable (#156793) tomcat5-0:5.0.30-5jpp_5fc ------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Gary Benson 0:5.0.30-5jpp_5fc - Add ant-launcher.jar to common classloader. - Use absolute paths for rebuild-gcj-db. - Don't include jars from other rpms in /usr/share/tomcat5/bin. - Correct permissions and remove junk from /usr/share/tomcat5/bin. From roger at gwch.net Sat May 7 12:17:35 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 14:17:35 +0200 Subject: Kernel .1286 In-Reply-To: <427CA0C2.1050001@feuerpokemon.de> References: <427C8E66.5040808@gwch.net> <427CA0C2.1050001@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <427CB1DF.30500@gwch.net> dragoran wrote: > Roger Grosswiler wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> After installing the last Kernel, i get refused the login in runlevel 5. >> >> May 7 10:59:03 neo gdm[2932]: session_child_run: >> /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession default could not be executed >> >> Roger >> > any selinux warnings in dmesg? > does it work with enforcing=0 ? > hi dragran, i've been rebooting twice, strangerwise now it works...i've done a fixfile relabel once...perhaps this did it, don't know... Roger From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat May 7 12:32:49 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 14:32:49 +0200 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage Message-ID: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Today we use the release notes as standard homepage for all browsers, instead of whatever is upstream default. Why do we do that, while constantly repeating the mantra "upstream!, upstream!, upstream!"? In my personal opinion, the release notes belong in "help" or something like that (even a shortcut on the standard desktop would be more intuitive) - not as the standard homepage in every browser. This confuses people, and addmitedly, the release notes aren't that much usefull to the users as the standard homepage - especially in firefox, where the standard is: http://www.google.no/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:nb-NO:official which is simply a google search with some hints on using firefox etc. Kyrre Ness Sj?b?k From RouillardSy at yahoo.fr Sat May 7 12:43:10 2005 From: RouillardSy at yahoo.fr (Sylvain Rouillard) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:43:10 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050507 changes In-Reply-To: <200505071206.j47C6Hid003879@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505071206.j47C6Hid003879@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200505071443.11698.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> Le Samedi 7 Mai 2005 14:06, Build System a ?crit?: > kernel-2.6.11-1.1287_FC4 > ------------------------ > * Thu May 05 2005 David Woodhouse > - Import audit fixes from upstream > Seen in yum update... (soon on your screens) Installing: kernel-devel ####################### [ 2/10] hardlink: hardlink: no version information available (required by hardlink) hardlink: hardlink: no version information available (required by hardlink) hardlink: symbol lookup error: hardlink: undefined symbol: stderr, version GLIBC_2.2.5 Installing: kernel ####################### [ 3/10] From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat May 7 12:57:01 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:57:01 +0100 Subject: Dingbats font & OO Equation editor questions Message-ID: <1115470621.4364.43.camel@localhost> Hi, Dingbats first. I have ticks and crosses in OOCalc which uses 3 and 5 in the Dingbats font. If I import the file created in OOCalc into OOWriter, the character "5" (a cross in dingbats) shows fine, but the "3" (a tick) gives an empty square. If the font is changed to zapf dingbats, I get the number 3 and 5 showing and not a tick or cross (which I see with dingbats). Is there any reason for this happening or is it something I need to report into bugzilla? Does anyone know if there is a list anywhere of the likes of specialist maths symbols for the equation editor? I have a list for greek characters, but need the likes of the "L" used for polar co-ordinates. TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kyrre Ness Sj?b?k From arjanv at redhat.com Sat May 7 13:41:57 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:41:57 +0200 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 14:32 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > Today we use the release notes as standard homepage for all browsers, > instead of whatever is upstream default. Why do we do that, while > constantly repeating the mantra "upstream!, upstream!, upstream!"? for me the "upstream" mantra applies far more to the code than to any actual settings of applications. If the user can and should change things, I don't see an issue with Fedora doing so as shipped as well. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From chrisw01 at privatei.com Sat May 7 14:25:48 2005 From: chrisw01 at privatei.com (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:25:48 -0600 Subject: New OOo Icons: Menu or Panel? Message-ID: <1115475948.3419.11.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> The following only applies to the new GNOME / clearlooks theme and menus - KDE has a different situation going on. The new OOo icons in the menu list look very nice, IMHO. However, they don't match what's currently in the panel at the top. From a usability point of view, these should be consistent. While I prefer that the new icons show up in the panel as well, that's just my personal taste. What's more important is these should be the same throughout. The same goes with the icons for the Web browser (and other apps), although this difference is easier to get away with since the panel icon launches whatever the default browser is, as opposed to a specific one. ...Just my 2 cents worth and someone may already be addressing it as well. Cheers, Chris -- ====================== When the solution is simple, God is answering. -- Albert Einstein -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom From nman64 at n-man.com Sat May 7 01:09:36 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 20:09:36 -0500 Subject: FC4-test2 latest: Sound stops (alsa/xmms/crossfade/arts) In-Reply-To: <20050506175345.48ea5e20.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <20050506175345.48ea5e20.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <427C1550.7020600@n-man.com> Paul Dickson wrote: >After xmms has been running for about a day, it will not start playing a >new track. This can happen either while xmms is playing or pressing play >after xmms has been stopped for a while. > >Getting it to work again requires exiting xmms, then "killall xmms", and >then a "alsactl restore", and finbally restarting xmms. If I don't do >the killall, then the buttons on the side of the notebook won't control >xmms ("Couldn't grab XF86Audio{Next,Prev,Play,Stop): another client may >already have done so"). Before killing xmms today (after exiting the >program) there where two process remaining: one started yesterday in >state SLl, the other started 6 hours earlier in state Ss. > >The crossfade plugin is using the output plugin "ALSA 1.2.10 output >plugin". > >Ogg123 can play music while xmms can't. > >Last week, while playing Konquest this happened and I got a lot of aRts >errors stateing something like the server was too busy. Eventually, I >got a big error window that said I could disable aRts (or somnething to >that effect) and I haven't seen these errors since. > >Should I file a bugzilla report? Against which package? > >I'm using: > xmms-crossfade-0.3.8-4 > xmms-1.2.10-15 > alsa-utils-1.0.9rc2-1 > > -Paul > > > This is probably related to one of a few known bugs. Have you tried disabling mmap mode in the ALSA output plugin? -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From fedora at nodata.co.uk Sat May 7 15:32:46 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:32:46 +0200 Subject: New OOo Icons: Menu or Panel? In-Reply-To: <1115475948.3419.11.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1115475948.3419.11.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1115479966.3012.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 08:25 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > The following only applies to the new GNOME / clearlooks theme and menus > - KDE has a different situation going on. > > The new OOo icons in the menu list look very nice, IMHO. However, they > don't match what's currently in the panel at the top. From a usability > point of view, these should be consistent. While I prefer that the new > icons show up in the panel as well, that's just my personal taste. > What's more important is these should be the same throughout. > > The same goes with the icons for the Web browser (and other apps), > although this difference is easier to get away with since the panel icon > launches whatever the default browser is, as opposed to a specific one. > > ...Just my 2 cents worth and someone may already be addressing it as > well. > > Cheers, > > Chris > > -- > ====================== > When the solution is simple, > God is answering. > > -- Albert Einstein > > > -- > ==================================== > "If you get to thinkin' you're a > person of some influence, try > orderin' someone else's dog around." > --Cowboy Wisdom > > > Yep, this has been spotted. There was a message about it I think yesterday. From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat May 7 15:43:33 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:43:33 +0200 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> l?r, 07.05.2005 kl. 15.41 skrev Arjan van de Ven: > On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 14:32 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > Today we use the release notes as standard homepage for all browsers, > > instead of whatever is upstream default. Why do we do that, while > > constantly repeating the mantra "upstream!, upstream!, upstream!"? > > for me the "upstream" mantra applies far more to the code than to any > actual settings of applications. If the user can and should change > things, I don't see an issue with Fedora doing so as shipped as well. > But you still ship with "spatial" nautilus, and the last discussion about it (as far as i remember) contained a lot of "upstream is configured with spatial as default, so we must as well"... Kyrre Sj?b?k From fedora at nodata.co.uk Sat May 7 15:52:49 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:52:49 +0200 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 14:32 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > Today we use the release notes as standard homepage for all browsers, > instead of whatever is upstream default. Why do we do that, while > constantly repeating the mantra "upstream!, upstream!, upstream!"? > > In my personal opinion, the release notes belong in "help" or something > like that (even a shortcut on the standard desktop would be more > intuitive) - not as the standard homepage in every browser. Why should loading the Google homepage be more correct that showing the release notes for the operating system I've just installed? Google has nothing to do with Firefox, except that it's a search engine that I might use with it. People that want to use Google can type something in the search box. > This confuses people, and addmitedly, the release notes aren't that much > usefull to the users as the standard homepage - especially in firefox, Who does it confuse? Why were they confused? > where the standard is: > http://www.google.no/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:nb-NO:official > which is simply a google search with some hints on using firefox etc. > > Kyrre Ness Sj?b?k From otaylor at redhat.com Sat May 7 16:52:55 2005 From: otaylor at redhat.com (Owen Taylor) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:52:55 -0400 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115484775.29653.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 14:32 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > Today we use the release notes as standard homepage for all browsers, > instead of whatever is upstream default. Why do we do that, while > constantly repeating the mantra "upstream!, upstream!, upstream!"? > > In my personal opinion, the release notes belong in "help" or something > like that (even a shortcut on the standard desktop would be more > intuitive) - not as the standard homepage in every browser. > > This confuses people, and addmitedly, the release notes aren't that much > usefull to the users as the standard homepage - especially in firefox, > where the standard is: > http://www.google.no/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:nb-NO:official > which is simply a google search with some hints on using firefox etc. If a site actually deploys fedora to tend users, they certainly shouldn't leave the release notes as the default page. But the target for fedora really is the enthusiast community; while we encourage people to use it in others ways, the prototypical Fedora user is someone who: - Installs their own machine (**) - cares about the software they just installed - Has a good chance of following further links and getting involved with Fedora This is someone who is going to get a benefit from seeing the release notes (*) I don't think there is any attempt to say that the release notes are what anybody will leave as their homepage, but It might be even cooler to have some sort of "fedora portal" (I use that word with great reluctance, but I don't know a better one) as the default homepage... but that would take a lot more active resources than the release notes. Regards, Owen (*) The obvious question then is why we don't configure the default desktop for a hacker... at least add a terminal launcher. There are multiple reasons here .. *my* personal take on it is that "configured for the hacker" often leads to sloppiness where the end-user configuration is just an untested veneer with a bunch of good looking knobs. Not so much of a concern for the default homepage, which will be changed anyways. (**) If we could identify the user who installed the machine and give just *them* the release notes, that might be cool, but it's not obvious how to make that identification. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat May 7 17:08:18 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 19:08:18 +0200 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115485697.3343.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> l?r, 07.05.2005 kl. 17.52 skrev nodata: > On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 14:32 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > Today we use the release notes as standard homepage for all browsers, > > instead of whatever is upstream default. Why do we do that, while > > constantly repeating the mantra "upstream!, upstream!, upstream!"? > > > > In my personal opinion, the release notes belong in "help" or something > > like that (even a shortcut on the standard desktop would be more > > intuitive) - not as the standard homepage in every browser. > > Why should loading the Google homepage be more correct that showing the > release notes for the operating system I've just installed? > Because the average end-user (non-admin) is more interested in googling for her friend's hollyday picures than reading a bunch of non-interesting technical documentation. > Google has nothing to do with Firefox, except that it's a search engine > that I might use with it. People that want to use Google can type > something in the search box. > And it is upstream default. People see "firefox" and expect to have a google search with firefox tips as the standard homepage. Perhaps it could be made into a google (or whatever) search with fedora tips? > > This confuses people, and addmitedly, the release notes aren't that much > > usefull to the users as the standard homepage - especially in firefox, > > Who does it confuse? Why were they confused? > They are confused because the browser looks like firefox but doesn't behave like firefox. > > where the standard is: > > http://www.google.no/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:nb-NO:official > > which is simply a google search with some hints on using firefox etc. > > > > Kyrre Ness Sj?b?k > From mefoster at gmail.com Sat May 7 17:18:16 2005 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 18:18:16 +0100 Subject: FC4-test2 latest: Sound stops (alsa/xmms/crossfade/arts) In-Reply-To: <427C1550.7020600@n-man.com> References: <20050506175345.48ea5e20.paul@permanentmail.com> <427C1550.7020600@n-man.com> Message-ID: On 5/7/05, Patrick Barnes wrote: > Paul Dickson wrote: > >After xmms has been running for about a day, it will not start playing a > >new track. This can happen either while xmms is playing or pressing play > >after xmms has been stopped for a while. > > > >Getting it to work again requires exiting xmms, then "killall xmms", and > >then a "alsactl restore", and finbally restarting xmms. If I don't do > >the killall, then the buttons on the side of the notebook won't control > >xmms ("Couldn't grab XF86Audio{Next,Prev,Play,Stop): another client may > >already have done so"). Before killing xmms today (after exiting the > >program) there where two process remaining: one started yesterday in > >state SLl, the other started 6 hours earlier in state Ss. > > This is probably related to one of a few known bugs. Have you tried > disabling mmap mode in the ALSA output plugin? I'm seeing something very similar playing DVDs in kaffeine (Xine-based KDE media player). Especially when I switch to or from the menu, but it also just happened in the middle of playing a disc. Kaffeine stops playing any sound, then shortly thereafter freezes, and I have to "kill -9" kaffeine and restart it to make it work again. Should we comment further on the ALSA bug report, or is this something new? MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From nman64 at n-man.com Sat May 7 17:38:08 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:38:08 -0500 Subject: FC4-test2 latest: Sound stops (alsa/xmms/crossfade/arts) In-Reply-To: References: <20050506175345.48ea5e20.paul@permanentmail.com> <427C1550.7020600@n-man.com> Message-ID: <427CFD00.4060702@n-man.com> Mary Ellen Foster wrote: >On 5/7/05, Patrick Barnes wrote: > > >>Paul Dickson wrote: >> >> >>>After xmms has been running for about a day, it will not start playing a >>>new track. This can happen either while xmms is playing or pressing play >>>after xmms has been stopped for a while. >>> >>>Getting it to work again requires exiting xmms, then "killall xmms", and >>>then a "alsactl restore", and finbally restarting xmms. If I don't do >>>the killall, then the buttons on the side of the notebook won't control >>>xmms ("Couldn't grab XF86Audio{Next,Prev,Play,Stop): another client may >>>already have done so"). Before killing xmms today (after exiting the >>>program) there where two process remaining: one started yesterday in >>>state SLl, the other started 6 hours earlier in state Ss. >>> >>> >>This is probably related to one of a few known bugs. Have you tried >>disabling mmap mode in the ALSA output plugin? >> >> > >I'm seeing something very similar playing DVDs in kaffeine (Xine-based >KDE media player). Especially when I switch to or from the menu, but >it also just happened in the middle of playing a disc. Kaffeine stops >playing any sound, then shortly thereafter freezes, and I have to >"kill -9" kaffeine and restart it to make it work again. > >Should we comment further on the ALSA bug report, or is this something new? > >MEF > > > This may be related, but I personally haven't heard this exact complaint yet. Search Bugzilla. If you think this is related to an existing bug, add your information (including traces, if possible). Otherwise, file a new report. -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mattdm at mattdm.org Sat May 7 17:42:45 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:42:45 -0400 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115485697.3343.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115485697.3343.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050507174245.GA17457@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 07:08:18PM +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > And it is upstream default. People see "firefox" and expect to have a > google search with firefox tips as the standard homepage. Perhaps it > could be made into a google (or whatever) search with fedora tips? [...] > They are confused because the browser looks like firefox but doesn't > behave like firefox. This seems like crazy-talk. The default start page has been a customizable feature in web browsers since, well, the beginning of web browsers. I don't think people have any strong expectation of it going to some per-browser branded page. I've *never* seen anyone come over to my house and start Firefox and be confused that it goes to my home page instead of some generic one. It is also *definitely* wrong to point at Google by default. As cool as they may be, they're a for-profit commercial entity with no relation to Fedora. I think the Fedora portal page idea is a good one. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 74 degrees Fahrenheit. From fedora at felix-becker.org Sat May 7 18:11:38 2005 From: fedora at felix-becker.org (Felix Becker) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:11:38 +0200 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <20050507174245.GA17457@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115485697.3343.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050507174245.GA17457@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <427D04DA.2020600@felix-becker.org> Matthew Miller wrote: >On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 07:08:18PM +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > >>And it is upstream default. People see "firefox" and expect to have a >>google search with firefox tips as the standard homepage. Perhaps it >>could be made into a google (or whatever) search with fedora tips? >> >> >[...] > > >>They are confused because the browser looks like firefox but doesn't >>behave like firefox. >> >> > >This seems like crazy-talk. The default start page has been a customizable >feature in web browsers since, well, the beginning of web browsers. I don't >think people have any strong expectation of it going to some per-browser >branded page. > >I've *never* seen anyone come over to my house and start Firefox and be >confused that it goes to my home page instead of some generic one. > >It is also *definitely* wrong to point at Google by default. As cool as they >may be, they're a for-profit commercial entity with no relation to Fedora. > >I think the Fedora portal page idea is a good one. > > Hi, about:blank, i think this is a really good defaultpage, fast and free of bugs ;-) Felix From mpeters at mac.com Sat May 7 18:30:35 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:30:35 -0700 Subject: Standard yum configuration In-Reply-To: <1115470913.3343.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115470913.3343.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115490635.18558.4.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:01 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > Some questions about the standard yum config: > - Will the fedora/fedora-extras gpgkeys be added by default, or could > the yum error message at least give some hints how to install them? > Could it even ask "%s gpgkey not installed, would you like to install > them now? [y/N]" like up2date? I think you must thrust RH anyway, as you > allready has installed the whole OS packaged and signed by them... > - Will fedora-extras.repo be included in /etc/yum.repos.d/ by default? > Will it be enabled by default? > - Will pup be installed by default? What will happen to up2date? With my install of FC4T2 - extras was enabled by default, with a gpgkey= defined so that it would fetch the key when needed. With my http rawhide install (post fc4t2) that was not the case, but I expect that because it was rawhide and not test. I'm guessing that in fc4 both extras and core will be enabled in yum, and both will import gpg key as needed. That is at least what it looks like they are planning based on a fresh (not upgrade) fc4t2 install. From chrisw01 at privatei.com Sat May 7 19:21:32 2005 From: chrisw01 at privatei.com (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:21:32 -0600 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115493692.6707.19.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 17:52 +0200, nodata wrote: > On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 14:32 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > Today we use the release notes as standard homepage for all browsers, > > instead of whatever is upstream default. Why do we do that, while > > constantly repeating the mantra "upstream!, upstream!, upstream!"? > > > > In my personal opinion, the release notes belong in "help" or something > > like that (even a shortcut on the standard desktop would be more > > intuitive) - not as the standard homepage in every browser. > > Why should loading the Google homepage be more correct that showing the > release notes for the operating system I've just installed? ..Umm, because if you really are religiously following the "Upstream" mantra, it's the most logical choice regardless of the OS I just installed. Then again, Firefox behavior with respect to installation of extensions and location of certain things on Fedora is not consistent with where Firefox normally puts things either. Both the Firefox and Fedora teams seem to have good reasons for the way they are doing things as well. > Google has nothing to do with Firefox, except that it's a search engine > that I might use with it. People that want to use Google can type > something in the search box. It also might be that Google does indeed have something to do with Firefox. Didn't they hire the Firefox lead developers and do some other behind the scenes support? Isn't that also at least partly why Google is the default search engine in the search bar, despite others also being there? > > This confuses people, and addmitedly, the release notes aren't that much > > usefull to the users as the standard homepage - especially in firefox, > > Who does it confuse? Why were they confused? Actually, it confuses the average Joe user of Fedora (like my mother, for instance) who doesn't really give a rip about reading the release notes. I agree the default page in Firefox likely isn't the best place and would prefer an alternate but easy way to access them. I also think this is more of a tempest in a teapot as well. My mom, for example, just changed the default page to be what she wanted. ...without reading the release notes or complaining the default was set that way. Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Sat May 7 19:31:37 2005 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:31:37 -0400 Subject: problem with yum + suggestion Message-ID: I'm trying to update from FC4T2 to current rawhide, x86_64: yum update: [...] --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc for package: struts11-webapps-tomcat5 --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc is needed by package struts11-webapps-tomcat5 OK, what about: sudo yum --exclude=struts11-webapps-tomcat5 update Same result! Now, a suggestion: Why can't yum have a switch to tell it to go ahead and update whatever it can, instead of refusing to proceed to update 1000 packages just because of 1 dep problem? From mpeters at mac.com Sat May 7 19:42:53 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:42:53 -0700 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115494974.18558.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 17:43 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > But you still ship with "spatial" nautilus, and the last discussion > about it (as far as i remember) contained a lot of "upstream is > configured with spatial as default, so we must as well"... Once I got use to spatial nautilus, it's actually what I prefer. From mpeters at mac.com Sat May 7 19:48:33 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:48:33 -0700 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115485697.3343.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115485697.3343.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115495313.18558.12.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 19:08 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > And it is upstream default. People see "firefox" and expect to have a > google search with firefox tips as the standard homepage. Perhaps it > could be made into a google (or whatever) search with fedora tips? *snip* > > They are confused because the browser looks like firefox but doesn't > behave like firefox. Most people who might be confused by that set up their internet access through the CD that their ISP gives them, which sets the default home page to the ISP's portal. Those who download and install FireFox on their own most often ask it to import their bookmarks etc. from Mozilla, Netscape, or IE. No one is going to be confused by the different default start page. It does however make them aware of the release notes and where to read them. From mattdm at mattdm.org Sat May 7 19:50:29 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:50:29 -0400 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <427D04DA.2020600@felix-becker.org> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115485697.3343.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050507174245.GA17457@jadzia.bu.edu> <427D04DA.2020600@felix-becker.org> Message-ID: <20050507195029.GA21913@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 08:11:38PM +0200, Felix Becker wrote: > about:blank, i think this is a really good defaultpage, fast and free of > bugs ;-) Yeah, except it might appear that the browser is broken. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 74 degrees Fahrenheit. From mattdm at mattdm.org Sat May 7 19:51:39 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:51:39 -0400 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115493692.6707.19.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115481169.3012.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115493692.6707.19.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050507195139.GB21913@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 01:21:32PM -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > ..Umm, because if you really are religiously following the "Upstream" > mantra, it's the most logical choice regardless of the OS I just This is *data*, not code. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 74 degrees Fahrenheit. From mpeters at mac.com Sat May 7 19:57:57 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:57:57 -0700 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115484775.29653.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115484775.29653.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115495877.18558.20.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 12:52 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > It might be even cooler to have some sort of "fedora portal" (I use that > word with great reluctance, but I don't know a better one) as the > default homepage... but that would take a lot more active resources > than the release notes. Default homepage should be a local file, not a web file. It could have a link to external, but it should be local file. Local file will work regardless of whether or not networking is up, dns is working, etc. Opening a new window is also much faster if it is from local file. Perhaps a more informative page (but a local page) with links to documentation, including the release notes, would be a better default than just the release notes. A brief page with links to: release notes (local file) FAQ (local file) /usr/share/doc user list a search box to search the user list From mpeters at mac.com Sat May 7 20:01:35 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:01:35 -0700 Subject: problem with yum + suggestion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115496095.18558.25.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:31 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > I'm trying to update from FC4T2 to current rawhide, x86_64: > yum update: > [...] > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc for package: > struts11-webapps-tomcat5 > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc is needed by package > struts11-webapps-tomcat5 > > OK, what about: > sudo yum --exclude=struts11-webapps-tomcat5 update > > Same result! You need to exclude struts11 The problem is that struts11-webapps-tomcat5 needs the old version of struts11 (I'm guessing here) and yum is trying to update that old struts11 - so until the tomcat is rebuilt, you will get that error. > > Now, a suggestion: > > Why can't yum have a switch to tell it to go ahead and update whatever it > can, instead of refusing to proceed to update 1000 packages just because of > 1 dep problem? > That would be nice - but I suspect it would require a lot of additional code for something that shouldn't happen once core is stable (it has ONLY happened to me in core3 when I use repositories other than core/extras/livna) From wjdearborn at narthexservices.com Sat May 7 21:40:58 2005 From: wjdearborn at narthexservices.com (Bill Dearborn) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:40:58 -0600 Subject: problem with yum + suggestion In-Reply-To: <1115496095.18558.25.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1115496095.18558.25.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:31 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > >>I'm trying to update from FC4T2 to current rawhide, x86_64: >>yum update: >>[...] >>--> Running transaction check >>--> Processing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc for package: >>struts11-webapps-tomcat5 >>--> Finished Dependency Resolution >>Error: Missing Dependency: struts11 = 1.1-1jpp_2fc is needed by package >>struts11-webapps-tomcat5 >> >>OK, what about: >>sudo yum --exclude=struts11-webapps-tomcat5 update >> >>Same result! > > > You need to exclude struts11 > The problem is that struts11-webapps-tomcat5 needs the old version of > struts11 (I'm guessing here) and yum is trying to update that old > struts11 - so until the tomcat is rebuilt, you will get that error. > > >>Now, a suggestion: >> >>Why can't yum have a switch to tell it to go ahead and update whatever it >>can, instead of refusing to proceed to update 1000 packages just because of >>1 dep problem? >> > > > That would be nice - but I suspect it would require a lot of additional > code for something that shouldn't happen once core is stable (it has > ONLY happened to me in core3 when I use repositories other than > core/extras/livna) > Ran into this as well... as per a previous message on this list yum erase struts11* yum install struts11 yum update struts11 was the solution that worked for me. Bill From hp at redhat.com Sat May 7 21:57:49 2005 From: hp at redhat.com (Havoc Pennington) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:57:49 -0400 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115503069.3162.131.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 17:43 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > l?r, 07.05.2005 kl. 15.41 skrev Arjan van de Ven: > > On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 14:32 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > Today we use the release notes as standard homepage for all browsers, > > > instead of whatever is upstream default. Why do we do that, while > > > constantly repeating the mantra "upstream!, upstream!, upstream!"? > > > > for me the "upstream" mantra applies far more to the code than to any > > actual settings of applications. If the user can and should change > > things, I don't see an issue with Fedora doing so as shipped as well. > > > But you still ship with "spatial" nautilus, and the last discussion > about it (as far as i remember) contained a lot of "upstream is > configured with spatial as default, so we must as well"... > It's probably relevant in this case that the upstream maintainers in question are also the Red Hat maintainers ;-) Havoc From peterennis at yahoo.com Sat May 7 22:15:07 2005 From: peterennis at yahoo.com (Peter Ennis) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC4T1 and Yum Update Message-ID: <20050507221507.3404.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> I am running FC4T1 and yum update it regularly. FC4T2 has been released. FC4T3 is due 5/10/05 Does FC4T1 automatically get updated to the new test release with yum or is a reinstall needed? I checked the list archive, Fedora FAQ and googled but found no answer. Also, Powered by eWP - Add to an online address book - Click to See Sender's Card From mpeters at mac.com Sat May 7 22:25:28 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:25:28 -0700 Subject: FC4T1 and Yum Update In-Reply-To: <20050507221507.3404.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050507221507.3404.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1115504729.18558.45.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:15 -0700, Peter Ennis wrote: > Does FC4T1 automatically get updated to the new > test release with yum or is a reinstall needed? Test releases are basically just a snapshot of rawhide, and they update to rawhide. I have one box that started as FC4T1, another that started as FC4T2, and another that started as a post T2 rawhide install. All the packages are the same. What installing test3 would give you though is an opportunity to test and report bugs with the anaconda installer and post install setup process. It won't however give you newer packages than what you can currently get with standard yum update. From peterennis at yahoo.com Sat May 7 22:27:54 2005 From: peterennis at yahoo.com (Peter Ennis) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC4T1 and Yum Update Message-ID: <20050507222754.49510.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> I am running FC4T1 and yum update regularly. # cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora Core release Rawhide (Rawhide) This does not tell me anything about the version. Does it automatically get updated to FC4T2, and FC4T3 on 5/10/05, and where do I see this detail info? PFE Powered by eWP - Add to an online address book - Click to See Sender's Card From mpeters at mac.com Sat May 7 23:18:00 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:18:00 -0700 Subject: FC4T1 and Yum Update In-Reply-To: <20050507222754.49510.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050507222754.49510.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1115507880.18558.49.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:27 -0700, Peter Ennis wrote: > I am running FC4T1 and yum update regularly. > > # cat /etc/redhat-release > Fedora Core release Rawhide (Rawhide) > > This does not tell me anything about the > version. Does it automatically get updated > to FC4T2, and FC4T3 on 5/10/05, > and where do I see this detail info? It gets updated to rawhide. Test1, Test2, Test3 are just names given to specific snapshots of rawhide - they are not different versions, they _all_ are rawhide and they _all_ update from the rawhide repository. FC4t1 + updates = rawhide FC4t2 + updates = rawhide FC4t3 + updates = rawhide rawhide + updates = rawhide From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat May 7 23:40:38 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 01:40:38 +0200 Subject: FC4T1 and Yum Update In-Reply-To: <1115507880.18558.49.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <20050507222754.49510.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> <1115507880.18558.49.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <427D51F6.4070305@gmx.de> Michael A. Peters wrote: >On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:27 -0700, Peter Ennis wrote: > > >>I am running FC4T1 and yum update regularly. >> >># cat /etc/redhat-release >>Fedora Core release Rawhide (Rawhide) >> >>This does not tell me anything about the >>version. Does it automatically get updated >>to FC4T2, and FC4T3 on 5/10/05, >> >> afaik, yes. i assume that you have now FC4t3 + rawhideupdates >>and where do I see this detail info? >> >> FC4t2 without regulary updates: $ rpm -q fedora-release fedora-release-3.91-1 $ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release 3.91 (Pre-FC4) eg. $ yum -d0 list kernel Installed Packages kernel.ppc 2.6.11-1.1267_FC4 installed kernel.ppc 2.6.11-1.1238_FC4 installed kernel.ppc 2.6.11-1.1276_FC4 installed kernel.ppc 2.6.11-1.1275_FC4 installed kernel.ppc 2.6.11-1.1240_FC4 installed kernel.ppc 2.6.11-1.1226_FC4 installed Available Packages kernel.ppc 2.6.11-1.1287_FC4 development >It gets updated to rawhide. >Test1, Test2, Test3 are just names given to specific snapshots of >rawhide - they are not different versions, they _all_ are rawhide and >they _all_ update from the rawhide repository. > >FC4t1 + updates = rawhide >FC4t2 + updates = rawhide >FC4t3 + updates = rawhide >rawhide + updates = rawhide > -- shrek-m From mpeters at mac.com Sun May 8 05:48:06 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:48:06 -0700 Subject: kernel 2.6.11-1.1287_FC4 and Thinpad T20 Message-ID: <1115531286.3202.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> IBM Thinkpad T20, 700MHz selinux disabled, rhgb disabled On some kernels, X11 would fail to start some of the time. rhgb would run but when gdm started, sometimes I would not get a login screen, could not ping machine. If I did get to gdm login screen, its rock solid stable after that. Disabled rhgb - still was a problem sometimes, so rhgb was not at fault - but I left it disabled anyway. It is NOT a problem with knoppix, so its not a hardware issue. Virtual consoles also do not work in runlevel 5 (haven't tried others) kernel 2.6.11-1.1284_FC4 seemed better - virtual consoles still didn't work, but I seemed to have no problems booting to runlevel 5. If it still was a problem in that kernel, I just have been lucky. kernel 2.6.11-1.1287_FC4 - have not had a successful boot to runlevel 5 - happens every time I try, switching to 1284 in grub and it boots into runlevel 5 just fine. [mpeters at laptop ~]$ /sbin/lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1450 (rev 03) 00:02.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1450 (rev 03) 00:03.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems (former Lucent Microelectronics) WinModem 56k (rev 01) 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01) 00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 11) 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) I do boot with acpi=force - I don't know if that's an issue or not. Interestingly, w/o acpi=force, when docked if xscreensaver comes on, I can't move external mouse to get the xscreensaver password box - acpi=force and I can. But that's the least of my worries, only mentioned in case it's an acpi issue I'm seeing. From patrickm at myway.com Sun May 8 07:40:32 2005 From: patrickm at myway.com (Patrick) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 03:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Please read: sym0:0:0:phase change message problem! Message-ID: <20050508074032.8861B60688@mprdmxin.myway.com> After upgrading my server with several ultra 3 scsi drives, I installed RHEL4 on it. The installation went without any problems. BUT... when the system rebooted, I noticed during post a long list of messages and it kept on reporting the same thing: sym0:0:0:phase change 6-7 11 at 1f52b784 resid=6. sym0:0:0:phase change 6-7 11 at 1f52b784 resid=6. sym0:0:0:phase change 6-7 11 at 1f52b784 resid=6. sym0:0:0:phase change 6-7 11 at 1f52b784 resid=6. etc.... What also was a problem, was that the consoles (tty1, tty2, etc.) could not be easily used since the "sym..." message kept flooding them... After going through the internet, I found more information about the problem: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=139949 It's a bug dating from around september 2004: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=139949#c10 In other words... this was a frequent problem, and for some odd reason still is!! It seems that there is no solution (yet). And as far as I found out from the bugreport, kernel 2.6.8-1.521 is the latest "problem-free" kernel to use..... People who are running a system using the sym53c8xx controler with SCSI drives, can't use FC3, FC4t1 or RHEL4 (kernel 2.6.9-5.EL). Also CentOS4.0 has the same problem, but that's a different story ;-) So, just to bring this to your attention, please have a look at it. Perhaps it's something worth fixing for the future?? Regards, PatrickM _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From fedora at nodata.co.uk Sun May 8 11:28:02 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 13:28:02 +0200 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115494974.18558.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115494974.18558.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1115551682.11677.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 12:42 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 17:43 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > But you still ship with "spatial" nautilus, and the last discussion > > about it (as far as i remember) contained a lot of "upstream is > > configured with spatial as default, so we must as well"... > > Once I got use to spatial nautilus, it's actually what I prefer. > I tried to get used to it, but found the way it opened new windows on top of the old ones really annoying. From buildsys at redhat.com Sun May 8 12:07:01 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 08:07:01 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes Message-ID: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: From danieltmh2004 at yahoo.com.sg Sun May 8 16:38:45 2005 From: danieltmh2004 at yahoo.com.sg (Daniel Tan) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 00:38:45 +0800 (CST) Subject: Error installing FC3 Message-ID: <20050508163845.24958.qmail@web54109.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm new to Fedora Core 3. Just downloaded FC3 (04-Nov-2004) and tried to install. Gets an error message -> isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4280 drive 9F. Can't continue with the installation from FC3-i386-disc1.iso. Can anyone advise on how to overcome that? Daniel Yahoo! Mobile - Download the latest ringtones, games, and more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora at felix-becker.org Sun May 8 17:49:21 2005 From: fedora at felix-becker.org (Felix Becker) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 19:49:21 +0200 Subject: Error installing FC3 In-Reply-To: <20050508163845.24958.qmail@web54109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050508163845.24958.qmail@web54109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <427E5121.5070206@felix-becker.org> Daniel Tan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to Fedora Core 3. Just downloaded FC3 (04-Nov-2004) and tried > to install. > > Gets an error message -> isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4280 drive 9F. > Can't continue with the installation from FC3-i386-disc1.iso. > > Can anyone advise on how to overcome that? > > > Daniel > > > * Yahoo! Mobile > * > - Download the latest ringtones, games, and more! > did you do the media check? i think it's an diskimageerror... From sjansen at gurulabs.com Sun May 8 19:45:30 2005 From: sjansen at gurulabs.com (Stuart Jansen) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 13:45:30 -0600 Subject: Spatial Nautilus Praise (was Re: Firefox etc. default homepage) In-Reply-To: <1115551682.11677.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115494974.18558.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1115551682.11677.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115581530.9003.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 13:28 +0200, nodata wrote: > On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 12:42 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > > > Once I got use to spatial nautilus, it's actually what I prefer. > > > > I tried to get used to it, but found the way it opened new windows on > top of the old ones really annoying. Yes, that can be annoying. Thankfully, because Nautilus remembers the position and size of a window when it was last opened, it gets better with time. I have a folder filled with many PDFs. Previously, to open a specific PDF I'd have to scan the list until I found the one I wanted. Now thanks to spatial Nautilus, I can quickly find the one's I use most frequently by automatically homing in on their location on the screen. Because so many have similar names, this is faster than even tab completion. (And now that I have evince showing thumbnails in Nautilus, it's pretty easy to find less frequently used PDfs also.) A giant thank you to the developers of nautilus and evince! -- Stuart Jansen Guru Labs, L.C. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mpeters at mac.com Sun May 8 20:28:48 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 13:28:48 -0700 Subject: Firefox etc. default homepage In-Reply-To: <1115551682.11677.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115494974.18558.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1115551682.11677.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115584129.3202.36.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 13:28 +0200, nodata wrote: > > I tried to get used to it, but found the way it opened new windows on > top of the old ones really annoying. > Yes it does - which is why you right click to browse folder if you don't want that happening. Where I find that useful though - launch homedir open rpm directory - yes, it open on top of home dir open spec files directory - yes it opens on top of rpm dir on top of home dir drag spec file to my webdav server for sharing ctrl-w and spec file directory is instantly closed - leaving me with rpm directory open source directory - copy patches to my webdav server for public sharing ctrl-w to close that open srpms directory It's much easier imho to use spatial in these scenarios imho. I can also just drag a window off. Spatial feels a lot like the classic Mac OS Finder did - I like that a lot. And when I want to browse - I browse. Typically all I ever browse are my ftp server, webdav server, and removable media. Those all have icons on the desktop all the time making it easy to choose to browse (via right click). From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun May 8 20:55:43 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 22:55:43 +0200 Subject: FC4T1 and Yum Update In-Reply-To: <1115507880.18558.49.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <20050507222754.49510.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> <1115507880.18558.49.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1115585742.3350.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> s?n, 08.05.2005 kl. 01.18 skrev Michael A. Peters: > On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:27 -0700, Peter Ennis wrote: > > I am running FC4T1 and yum update regularly. > > > > # cat /etc/redhat-release > > Fedora Core release Rawhide (Rawhide) > > > > This does not tell me anything about the > > version. Does it automatically get updated > > to FC4T2, and FC4T3 on 5/10/05, > > and where do I see this detail info? > > It gets updated to rawhide. > Test1, Test2, Test3 are just names given to specific snapshots of > rawhide - they are not different versions, they _all_ are rawhide and > they _all_ update from the rawhide repository. > > FC4t1 + updates = rawhide > FC4t2 + updates = rawhide > FC4t3 + updates = rawhide > rawhide + updates = rawhide rawhide installed as rawhide and installed as FCXtY differs... they have (apparently) a different fedora-release rpm (-> different yum.conf sources) From linxt at comcast.net Sun May 8 21:25:45 2005 From: linxt at comcast.net (Tom) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 14:25:45 -0700 Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes In-Reply-To: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:07, Build System wrote: > Updated Packages: Does this mean NO packages were updated? That would be hard to believe. This is the second time that I have received an empty change report. The previous was 20050502. Tom -- Tom Taylor registered linux user #263467 From cimmo at libero.it Sun May 8 21:28:34 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 23:28:34 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes In-Reply-To: <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <427E8482.8050705@libero.it> Tom ha scritto: >On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:07, Build System wrote: > > >>Updated Packages: >> >> > >Does this mean NO packages were updated? That would be hard to believe. >This is the second time that I have received an empty change report. The >previous was 20050502. > >Tom > > > Third time: 20050501 20050502 20050508 From fedora at nodata.co.uk Sun May 8 21:43:09 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 23:43:09 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes In-Reply-To: <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1115588589.8767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 14:25 -0700, Tom wrote: > On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:07, Build System wrote: > > Updated Packages: > > Does this mean NO packages were updated? That would be hard to believe. > This is the second time that I have received an empty change report. The > previous was 20050502. > > Tom > > -- > Tom Taylor > registered linux user #263467 > The build machines are broken. Probably a full disk! *hides* From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun May 8 21:45:36 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 23:45:36 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes In-Reply-To: <1115588589.8767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> <1115588589.8767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115588735.3350.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> s?n, 08.05.2005 kl. 23.43 skrev nodata: > On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 14:25 -0700, Tom wrote: > > On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:07, Build System wrote: > > > Updated Packages: > > > > Does this mean NO packages were updated? That would be hard to believe. > > This is the second time that I have received an empty change report. The > > previous was 20050502. > > > > Tom > > > > -- > > Tom Taylor > > registered linux user #263467 > > > > The build machines are broken. Probably a full disk! *hides* At the same time "everyone" agrees that "disk is cheap, no need to save on it"... From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 9 00:49:09 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 10:49:09 +1000 Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes In-Reply-To: <1115588735.3350.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> <1115588589.8767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115588735.3350.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115599750.3695.12.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> > > The build machines are broken. Probably a full disk! *hides* > > At the same time "everyone" agrees that "disk is cheap, no need to save > on it"... Disk space is cheap, but I'm still amazed at how quickly it fills up. Usually, the disk has plenty of space, but the partitions are too small. ;-] R. From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 9 01:02:39 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 11:02:39 +1000 Subject: rawhide report: 20050505 changes In-Reply-To: <1115387307.11506.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200505051213.j45CDYBo000353@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <427A1529.9060106@wowway.com> <1115346448.3783.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1115387307.11506.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115600559.3695.16.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 09:48 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > Interestingly, the icons in the Applications menu are different to the > > icons in the panel for each OOo application (even though the launchers > > in the panel were dragged and dropped from the applications menu). > > > > Is this intentional? > > Nope, please file a bug. Thanks. Bugzilla'd: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157188 From dsavage at peaknet.net Mon May 9 02:20:28 2005 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 21:20:28 -0500 Subject: OT: VMware5 tools setup for FC4t2 Message-ID: <1115605228.5349.13.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Having trouble with the vmware-config-tools.pl script in a VMware5/W virtual machine. Seems the location for the "C header files that match your running kernel" have changed again. It's looking for "version.h". I used to have to make a soft link for a generic 'linux' in /usr/src pointing to the then current 'linux-2.xxx' source directory. Red Hat has changed things again in FC4. Who knows what "version.h" is now called and where it's located?? -- Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From mike at netlyncs.com Mon May 9 02:45:06 2005 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 21:45:06 -0500 Subject: Rawhide Install as of 5/8 Message-ID: <1115606706.28383.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Did a rawhide install this morning and everything seemed to go just fine. Didn't notice any problems during it or as of yet. Actually, the only thing I saw, was I had to edit grub.conf to add the early-login parameter, as well as turn gdm-allow/early-login funtions on, but that was it so far. I'm guessing FC4T3 shouldn't be too far behind as far as packaging versions, and should be a pretty rock solid test. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Doc) Savage wrote: > Having trouble with the vmware-config-tools.pl script in a VMware5/W > virtual machine. Seems the location for the "C header files that match > your running kernel" have changed again. It's looking for "version.h". > > I used to have to make a soft link for a generic 'linux' in /usr/src > pointing to the then current 'linux-2.xxx' source directory. Red Hat has > changed things again in FC4. > > Who knows what "version.h" is now called and where it's located?? Did you install the kernel-devel package? -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dsavage at peaknet.net Mon May 9 03:18:00 2005 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 22:18:00 -0500 Subject: OT: VMware5 tools setup for FC4t2 In-Reply-To: <1115607417.21984.0.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> References: <1115605228.5349.13.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> <1115607417.21984.0.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <1115608681.5349.15.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 22:56 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > Did you install the kernel-devel package? Ignacio, That was it. Thanks very much. -- Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From cjlesh.lists at gmail.com Mon May 9 06:21:33 2005 From: cjlesh.lists at gmail.com (Charles Lesh) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 02:21:33 -0400 Subject: Nvidia Dance... Message-ID: <7e22d1cd0505082321993113@mail.gmail.com> Hey all: I've been happily using FC3 with binary nvidia drivers for a while. I've also been playing with rawhide, which is sweet, but a no go with binary nvidia drivers. If I remember correctly, FC3 test releases and the initial release itself could not handle the binary nvidia drivers due to changes in the kernel. Without flames, and understanding how evil binary drivers are, should I expect a significant delay and lots of screwing around between the release of FC4 and the nvidia drivers working? (I like to call this the nvidia dance.) I wish I didn't need the binary driver, but I have a laptop, and have found no other way to drive a second monitor ('twinview"), which I need to do when I give presentations. Sadly, this why windows is still on one of my partitions. -cjl From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 9 06:38:53 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 16:38:53 +1000 Subject: Nvidia Dance... In-Reply-To: <7e22d1cd0505082321993113@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e22d1cd0505082321993113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115620733.3695.41.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> > Without flames, and understanding how evil binary drivers are, should > I expect a significant delay and lots of screwing around between the > release of FC4 and the nvidia drivers working? (I like to call this > the nvidia dance.) This isn't a question for Fedora. This is a question for Nvidia. While it would be great to have nvidia's drivers documented and as part of the kernel and xorg, this isn't likely to happen any time soon. Questions regarding how soon Nvidia will release working drivers for GCC4 and FC4 are questions only Nvidia can answer. Asking on this list is only likely to stir up a flame war regarding the evils of binary drivers which then moves to debate about the pros and cons of vi and emacs and finally fading out to a quick discussion on whether KDE or Gnome is the true desktop (along with a couple of interjects that people should look at XFCE). Meanwhile, Nvidia will continue to plod along with development of their binary driver, happily oblivious to the thousands of unnecessary emails members of this list and others have received that shed no real light on the question. Hope that helps. R. From vamsee.krishna at gmail.com Mon May 9 07:42:42 2005 From: vamsee.krishna at gmail.com (Vamsee Krishna Gomatam) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:12:42 +0530 Subject: Below par performance of SATA drives on FC4-Test2 Message-ID: Hi, I've recently installed FC4 Test 2. The system is AMD64 (installed x86_64) on VIA 8237 Mobo. I have one Samsung SATA drive (120GB) on VIA VT6420 controller and 2 IDE drives of 80GB each. I've performed a hdparm check on these three drives and got the following results: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [root at laetitia ~]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/sda: Timing cached reads: 1676 MB in 2.00 seconds = 837.29 MB/sec HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Timing buffered disk reads: 120 MB in 3.00 seconds = 39.94 MB/sec HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device /dev/hda: Timing cached reads: 1788 MB in 2.00 seconds = 893.24 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 118 MB in 3.02 seconds = 39.03 MB/sec /dev/hdb: Timing cached reads: 1784 MB in 2.00 seconds = 890.80 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 166 MB in 3.02 seconds = 55.03 MB/sec --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The performance of SATA drive is not upto the mark. I used to get better results on FC3. What could be the possible problem and any ideas on how to solve it? Regards, GVK -- Real programmers don't work 9 to 5. If any real programmers are around at 9, it's because they were up all night From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Mon May 9 08:48:21 2005 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 09:48:21 +0100 Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user Message-ID: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> Hello list, I just noticed that an ordinary user can 'reboot' on fc4t2 (kernel 2.6.11-1.1287_FC4) This works when connected over ssh, which really doesn't feel like a desireable feature. I tried to reboot one of my organisations machines just now, and, to my relief, got an error. But that was scientific linux, ~RHEL based. Any thoughts? Bill From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon May 9 08:50:06 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 04:50:06 -0400 Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user In-Reply-To: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> References: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1115628606.21549.71.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 09:48 +0100, William John Murray wrote: > Hello list, > I just noticed that an ordinary user can 'reboot' on fc4t2 > (kernel 2.6.11-1.1287_FC4) > This works when connected over ssh, which really doesn't feel like a > desireable feature. > > I tried to reboot one of my organisations machines just now, and, to my > relief, got an error. > But that was scientific linux, ~RHEL based. > Any thoughts? was the user who was logged in via ssh also logged into the console? -sv From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 9 08:58:15 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:58:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user In-Reply-To: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> References: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <63814.213.164.3.90.1115629095.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> > Hello list, > I just noticed that an ordinary user can 'reboot' on fc4t2 > (kernel 2.6.11-1.1287_FC4) > This works when connected over ssh, which really doesn't feel like a > desireable feature. > > I tried to reboot one of my organisations machines just now, and, to my > relief, got an error. > But that was scientific linux, ~RHEL based. > Any thoughts? > Bill > This is standard. Any fedora user with shell access can reboot the machine. For RHEL, only root can. From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 9 09:01:39 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:01:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes In-Reply-To: <1115599750.3695.12.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> <1115588589.8767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115588735.3350.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115599750.3695.12.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <32582.213.164.3.90.1115629299.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> > >> > The build machines are broken. Probably a full disk! *hides* >> >> At the same time "everyone" agrees that "disk is cheap, no need to save >> on it"... > > Disk space is cheap, but I'm still amazed at how quickly it fills up. > Usually, the disk has plenty of space, but the partitions are too > small. ;-] > > > R. And to make things worse, parted still won't resize ext3 partitions. *sigh* From yuanfong at gmail.com Mon May 9 09:45:27 2005 From: yuanfong at gmail.com (yf.kuo) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:45:27 +0800 Subject: A compact flash card reader freezes my system Message-ID: <33e0e03c0505090245504f6443@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have a PQI compact flash card and a MICRODIA compact flash card reader. Every time I use them, FC3 will freeze when I am going to shutdown/reboot - The mouse can't move. The keyboard haven't any response. I can mount/umount and read/write the card without problem. I have tested with other USB stick, and do not have the same problem. Does anyone have solution for this? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.backlund at gmail.com Mon May 9 09:54:21 2005 From: peter.backlund at gmail.com (Peter Backlund) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 11:54:21 +0200 Subject: Nvidia Dance... In-Reply-To: <7e22d1cd0505082321993113@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e22d1cd0505082321993113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115632461.3008.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> m?n 2005-05-09 klockan 02:21 -0400 skrev Charles Lesh: > Hey all: > > I've been happily using FC3 with binary nvidia drivers for a while. > > I've also been playing with rawhide, which is sweet, but a no go with > binary nvidia drivers. Get the src.rpm from rpm.livna.org and rebuild, works fine on Rawhide. /Peter From tony at tgds.net Mon May 9 11:48:08 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 13:48:08 +0200 Subject: much better Message-ID: <1115639288.2591.17.camel@hush> This weeks status report =:-D Machine VIA EPIA M10000N I have moved to -1284 kernel which compiles just fine from source. I have made several versions since last week. USB is behaving now. No system lockups or application crashes since Friday. One show stopper: DRM (from CVS) won't compile which means no MPEG2 acceleration for the CLE266... Cheers Tony From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon May 9 12:14:02 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:14:02 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes In-Reply-To: <32582.213.164.3.90.1115629299.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> References: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> <1115588589.8767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115588735.3350.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115599750.3695.12.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <32582.213.164.3.90.1115629299.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: On 5/9/05, nodata wrote: > > > >> > The build machines are broken. Probably a full disk! *hides* > >> > >> At the same time "everyone" agrees that "disk is cheap, no need to save > >> on it"... > > > > Disk space is cheap, but I'm still amazed at how quickly it fills up. > > Usually, the disk has plenty of space, but the partitions are too > > small. ;-] > > > > > > R. > > And to make things worse, parted still won't resize ext3 partitions. *sigh* Thats why you use LVM ;-) From mricon at gmail.com Mon May 9 12:21:18 2005 From: mricon at gmail.com (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 08:21:18 -0400 Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user In-Reply-To: <63814.213.164.3.90.1115629095.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> References: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> <63814.213.164.3.90.1115629095.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: On 5/9/05, nodata wrote: > This is standard. Any fedora user with shell access can reboot the machine. > For RHEL, only root can. Uhm. No. This is incorrect. User must have console access to reboot a machine. Don't make stuff up, please. -- Konstantin Ryabitsev Zlotniks, INC "? ????? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?????????????." --???? From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 9 12:27:21 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:27:21 +0200 (CEST) Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user In-Reply-To: References: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> <63814.213.164.3.90.1115629095.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: <27974.213.164.3.90.1115641641.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Just to fix the corrector's correction: > On 5/9/05, nodata wrote: >> This is standard. Any fedora user with shell access can reboot the >> machine. This bit is true. >> For RHEL, only root can. > > Uhm. No. This is incorrect. User must have console access to reboot a > machine. Don't make stuff up, please. From mricon at gmail.com Mon May 9 12:37:39 2005 From: mricon at gmail.com (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 08:37:39 -0400 Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user In-Reply-To: <27974.213.164.3.90.1115641641.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> References: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> <63814.213.164.3.90.1115629095.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <27974.213.164.3.90.1115641641.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: On 5/9/05, nodata wrote: > > On 5/9/05, nodata wrote: > >> This is standard. Any fedora user with shell access can reboot the > >> machine. > > This bit is true. No, it isn't. icon at fc2:[~]$ reboot reboot: must be superuser. You must be confusing "shell access" with "logged in from the console." -- Konstantin Ryabitsev Zlotniks, INC "? ????? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?????????????." --???? From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 9 12:50:04 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:50:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user In-Reply-To: References: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> <63814.213.164.3.90.1115629095.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <27974.213.164.3.90.1115641641.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: <45638.213.164.3.90.1115643004.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> > On 5/9/05, nodata wrote: >> > On 5/9/05, nodata wrote: >> >> This is standard. Any fedora user with shell access can reboot the >> >> machine. >> >> This bit is true. > > No, it isn't. Oops. > > icon at fc2:[~]$ reboot > reboot: must be superuser. > > You must be confusing "shell access" with "logged in from the console." I was mistaking "logged in from the console" as the text-mode login on screens Ctrl+Alt+F1 onwards. I didn't realise that gnome-terminal was equivalent to one of these. Now I do. Thanks! From kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu Mon May 9 12:55:56 2005 From: kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu (Kevin H. Hobbs) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 08:55:56 -0400 Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user In-Reply-To: <27974.213.164.3.90.1115641641.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> References: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> <63814.213.164.3.90.1115629095.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <27974.213.164.3.90.1115641641.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: <1115643356.2608.11.camel@gargon.hooperlab> On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 14:27 +0200, nodata wrote: > Just to fix the corrector's correction: > > > On 5/9/05, nodata wrote: > >> This is standard. Any fedora user with shell access can reboot the > >> machine. > > This bit is true. > > >> For RHEL, only root can. > > > > Uhm. No. This is incorrect. User must have console access to reboot a > > machine. Don't make stuff up, please. > Maybe this would be clearer with a distinction between local and remote access. Users with physical access to the power cord may as well be able to reboot the machine. Remote users do not have this ability. [kevin at gargon ~]$ ssh lobster Last login: Fri Apr 22 15:50:47 2005 [kevin at lobster ~]$ reboot reboot: must be superuser. [kevin at lobster ~]$ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jr36 at leicester.ac.uk Mon May 9 13:12:50 2005 From: jr36 at leicester.ac.uk (Jonathan Rawle) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 14:12:50 +0100 Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user References: <427F23D5.1030405@rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: William John Murray wrote: > Hello list, > I just noticed that an ordinary user can 'reboot' on fc4t2 > (kernel 2.6.11-1.1287_FC4) > This works when connected over ssh, which really doesn't feel like a > desireable feature. To be able to reboot/poweroff a machine, one must be either root or the console "owner". The owner of the console is the first person to log on at the physical console of the machine (either at a virtual terminal, or an X session). If the console owner logs off, the next person to log in to the console becomes the owner. If you can reboot from an ssh login, this suggests you are also logged on to the console. Sometimes, if you don't log out of an X-session cleanly, the console lock files remain, even if you are no longer logged on at the console. You would then still be able to reboot from a remote connection. Commands such as /usr/bin/poweroff are actually links to consolehelper. This determines if the user owns the console, and then calls /sbin/poweroff. The relevent lockfiles are /var/run/console.lock and /var/run/console/* Jonathan From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Mon May 9 13:39:39 2005 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 14:39:39 +0100 Subject: reboot works for non-priveliged user Message-ID: <427F681B.8020308@rl.ac.uk> >Maybe this would be clearer with a distinction between local and remote >access. Users with physical access to the power cord may as well be >able to reboot the machine. Remote users do not have this ability. Thank guys, This makes perfect sense. I was indeed logged in via the console AND by ssh from another machine, which is how the ssh got its permission. Excellent default, thank you. Bill From gstool at earthlink.net Mon May 9 14:14:23 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 09:14:23 -0500 Subject: Spatial Nautilus Praise (was Re: Firefox etc. default homepage) In-Reply-To: <1115581530.9003.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115494974.18558.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1115551682.11677.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115581530.9003.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <427F703F.6000109@earthlink.net> Stuart Jansen wrote: >On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 13:28 +0200, nodata wrote: > > >>On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 12:42 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: >> >> >>>Once I got use to spatial nautilus, it's actually what I prefer. >>> >>> >>> >>I tried to get used to it, but found the way it opened new windows on >>top of the old ones really annoying. >> >> > >Yes, that can be annoying. Thankfully, because Nautilus remembers the >position and size of a window when it was last opened, it gets better >with time. I have a folder filled with many PDFs. Previously, to open a >specific PDF I'd have to scan the list until I found the one I wanted. >Now thanks to spatial Nautilus, I can quickly find the one's I use most >frequently by automatically homing in on their location on the screen. >Because so many have similar names, this is faster than even tab >completion. (And now that I have evince showing thumbnails in Nautilus, >it's pretty easy to find less frequently used PDfs also.) > >A giant thank you to the developers of nautilus and evince! > > > I don't know if it has been mentioned before in this thread, but if you want the next spatial view to open in the same window that you are clicking in, just "middle click" the entry and it will use the same window. I find this feature along with the spatial paradigm to be the best file navigation facility around. It took some time to get used to, but I almost never open a Browse Window anymore. Gerry From danieltmh2004 at yahoo.com.sg Mon May 9 14:32:46 2005 From: danieltmh2004 at yahoo.com.sg (Daniel Tan) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:32:46 +0800 (CST) Subject: Error installing FC3 In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050509143246.47726.qmail@web54106.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, thanks. I ran the media check on disk1 -> Test failed. So I re-downloaded FC3-i386-disc1.iso from another mirror site (this time from Malaysia) -> burn the image on a new CDR -> re-ran the media check -> test failed. I ran the media checks for disk2 and so on -> Test failed too. I thought the prob may be with my CD-writer or CD recording s/w ?? I'm using Sonic RecordNow!Plus ver 7.3 Build 730B56C. Anyway, I'll explore along this line. Felix Becker wrote: Daniel Tan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to Fedora Core 3. Just downloaded FC3 (04-Nov-2004) and tried > to install. > > Gets an error message -> isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4280 drive 9F. > Can't continue with the installation from FC3-i386-disc1.iso. > > Can anyone advise on how to overcome that? > > > Daniel > > > * Yahoo! Mobile > * > - Download the latest ringtones, games, and more! > did you do the media check? i think it's an diskimageerror... -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Yahoo! Mobile - Download the latest ringtones, games, and more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katzj at redhat.com Mon May 9 15:11:37 2005 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 11:11:37 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes In-Reply-To: <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1115651497.9762.26.camel@bree.local.net> On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 14:25 -0700, Tom wrote: > On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:07, Build System wrote: > > Updated Packages: > > Does this mean NO packages were updated? That would be hard to believe. > This is the second time that I have received an empty change report. The > previous was 20050502. Things are still locked-down from the test3 freeze/release. Jeremy From russell at coker.com.au Mon May 9 15:50:31 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:50:31 +1000 Subject: Below par performance of SATA drives on FC4-Test2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505100150.35592.russell@coker.com.au> On Monday 09 May 2005 17:42, Vamsee Krishna Gomatam wrote: > /dev/sda: > Timing cached reads: 1676 MB in 2.00 seconds = 837.29 MB/sec > HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate > ioctl for device > Timing buffered disk reads: 120 MB in 3.00 seconds = 39.94 MB/sec > HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate > ioctl for device 40MB/s isn't that great by today's standards, but you omitted to mention the RPM speed of the disk. For a 10,000rpm or better disk 40MB/s is below par, you should be seeing 50MB/s or more. If it's a cheaper drive (designed for desktop not server) then 40MB/s might be performing to spec. That doesn't mean there's a problem, disks that cost less and/or make less noise deliver less performance. For a real test do something more than that. Bonnie++ is one option for benchmarking that's a lot better than hdparm. Do some benchmark tests with a serious benchmark program as well as some tests using dd to read large amounts of data (more than 1G). Also run top while running the tests and see if excessive CPU use is occurring. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Mon May 9 16:06:09 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 13:06:09 -0300 Subject: OT: Re: Below par performance of SATA drives on FC4-Test2 In-Reply-To: <200505100150.35592.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200505100150.35592.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1115654769.4389.5.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Em Ter, 2005-05-10 ?s 01:50 +1000, Russell Coker escreveu: > For a real test do something more than that. Bonnie++ is one option for > benchmarking that's a lot better than hdparm. Is there a multi-platform testing system, so I can assure, for instance, how of a raid driver performs, when compared with itself running another OS (specifically, linux2.6 and windows)? Thanks for the info Alexandre Strube From tony at tgds.net Mon May 9 16:11:40 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 18:11:40 +0200 Subject: much better In-Reply-To: <1115639288.2591.17.camel@hush> References: <1115639288.2591.17.camel@hush> Message-ID: <1115655101.2591.22.camel@hush> Le lundi 09 mai 2005 ? 13:48 +0200, tony a ?crit : > One show stopper: DRM (from CVS) won't compile which means no MPEG2 > acceleration for the CLE266... Some people (unichrome guys) are telling me I have bad kernel libc headers. What do I need to fix that? Tony From notting at redhat.com Mon May 9 16:14:36 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:14:36 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050508 changes In-Reply-To: <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200505081207.j48C71ux008491@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200505081425.45099.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050509161436.GA4537@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Tom (linxt at comcast.net) said: > On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:07, Build System wrote: > > Updated Packages: > > Does this mean NO packages were updated? Yes. Tree was frozen, nothing was being moved in. Bill From russell at coker.com.au Mon May 9 16:33:54 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 02:33:54 +1000 Subject: OT: Re: Below par performance of SATA drives on FC4-Test2 In-Reply-To: <1115654769.4389.5.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> References: <200505100150.35592.russell@coker.com.au> <1115654769.4389.5.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Message-ID: <200505100233.58654.russell@coker.com.au> On Tuesday 10 May 2005 02:06, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Ter, 2005-05-10 ?s 01:50 +1000, Russell Coker escreveu: > > For a real test do something more than that. Bonnie++ is one option for > > benchmarking that's a lot better than hdparm. > > Is there a multi-platform testing system, so I can assure, for instance, > how of a raid driver performs, when compared with itself running another > OS (specifically, linux2.6 and windows)? I did some work to get Bonnie++ to compile on WindowsNT, but never completed it. You should be able to find dd and time for Windows which should allow the same tests to be performed. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From alan at redhat.com Mon May 9 16:59:04 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:59:04 -0400 Subject: Below par performance of SATA drives on FC4-Test2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050509165904.GD18248@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 01:12:42PM +0530, Vamsee Krishna Gomatam wrote: > I've recently installed FC4 Test 2. The system is AMD64 (installed > x86_64) on VIA 8237 Mobo. I have one Samsung SATA drive (120GB) on VIA > VT6420 controller and 2 IDE drives of 80GB each. I've performed a > hdparm check on these three drives and got the following results: The sata layer doesn't support cache flush ioctls so the data may be dubious > The performance of SATA drive is not upto the mark. I used to get > better results on FC3. What could be the possible problem and any > ideas on how to solve it? How much difference is there ? Remembering that FC4test will have debugging code paths enabled. From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon May 9 17:07:18 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 19:07:18 +0200 Subject: Spatial Nautilus Praise (was Re: Firefox etc. default homepage) In-Reply-To: <427F703F.6000109@earthlink.net> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115494974.18558.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1115551682.11677.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115581530.9003.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <427F703F.6000109@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1115658438.3344.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> man, 09.05.2005 kl. 16.14 skrev Gerry Tool: > Stuart Jansen wrote: > > >On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 13:28 +0200, nodata wrote: > > > > > >>On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 12:42 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Once I got use to spatial nautilus, it's actually what I prefer. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I tried to get used to it, but found the way it opened new windows on > >>top of the old ones really annoying. > >> > >> > > > >Yes, that can be annoying. Thankfully, because Nautilus remembers the > >position and size of a window when it was last opened, it gets better > >with time. I have a folder filled with many PDFs. Previously, to open a > >specific PDF I'd have to scan the list until I found the one I wanted. > >Now thanks to spatial Nautilus, I can quickly find the one's I use most > >frequently by automatically homing in on their location on the screen. > >Because so many have similar names, this is faster than even tab > >completion. (And now that I have evince showing thumbnails in Nautilus, > >it's pretty easy to find less frequently used PDfs also.) > > > >A giant thank you to the developers of nautilus and evince! > > > > > > > I don't know if it has been mentioned before in this thread, but if you > want the next spatial view to open in the same window that you are > clicking in, just "middle click" the entry and it will use the same > window. I find this feature along with the spatial paradigm to be the > best file navigation facility around. It took some time to get used to, > but I almost never open a Browse Window anymore. > > Gerry But there is something *really* lacking from spatial - the adressbar etc. - its so usefull to be able to use SSH etc. without having to know to hit "control+L"... From buildsys at redhat.com Mon May 9 17:43:21 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:43:21 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050509 changes Message-ID: <200505091743.j49HhL6S023462@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: From mpeters at mac.com Mon May 9 18:37:55 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 11:37:55 -0700 Subject: Spatial Nautilus Praise (was Re: Firefox etc. default homepage) In-Reply-To: <1115658438.3344.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115494974.18558.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1115551682.11677.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115581530.9003.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <427F703F.6000109@earthlink.net> <1115658438.3344.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1115663875.3202.65.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 19:07 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > But there is something *really* lacking from spatial - the adressbar > etc. - its so usefull to be able to use SSH etc. without having to know > to hit "control+L"... > It's in the file menu - even with spatial From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon May 9 21:16:34 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 23:16:34 +0200 Subject: Spatial Nautilus Praise (was Re: Firefox etc. default homepage) In-Reply-To: <1115663875.3202.65.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1115469169.3343.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115473317.6388.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1115480612.3343.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115494974.18558.6.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1115551682.11677.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115581530.9003.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <427F703F.6000109@earthlink.net> <1115658438.3344.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1115663875.3202.65.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1115673394.3344.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> man, 09.05.2005 kl. 20.37 skrev Michael A. Peters: > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 19:07 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > > > But there is something *really* lacking from spatial - the adressbar > > etc. - its so usefull to be able to use SSH etc. without having to know > > to hit "control+L"... > > > > It's in the file menu - even with spatial making the user dig into the menu all the time is not something i am a big fan about. Probably not most other users as well. Not that that is a mandate for making an interface that looks like it has been created with a button-machinegun (as *some* programs on another, well known DE do sometimes look like) Anyway, lets just stop this discussion about spatial nautilus. It isn't going anywhere. Kyrre From lists at sapience.com Mon May 9 21:43:42 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:43:42 -0400 Subject: USB disk problem with kernel 1287 Message-ID: <20050509214341.GA4667@sapience.com> I've mounted and umounted it fine for short periods. I could happily read and write no problem. IN KDE a lovely USB icon appears on desktop and I click it things are lovely. Right click and unmount no problem. Today I plugged it in and left it idle (with a browser cd'd in the mounted directory). I see this in the log file: : usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 : scsi3 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices : Vendor: KM Model: DiMAGE X50 Rev: 1. : Type: Direct-Access ANSI SC SI revision: 02 : SCSI device sdb: 1984000 512-byte hdwr sectors (1016 MB) : sdb: Write Protect is off : sdb: assuming drive cache: write through : SCSI device sdb: 1984000 512-byte hdwr sectors (1016 MB) : sdb: Write Protect is off : sdb: assuming drive cache: write through : sdb: sdb1 : Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi3, channel 0 , id 0, lun 0 scsi.agent[12230]: disk at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/ usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/host3/target3:0:0/3:0:0:0 [ I guess success on pluggin it in ... ] ... [ then this ... ] : usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4 : sdb : READ CAPACITY failed. : sdb : status=0, message=00, host=1, driver=00 : sdb : sense not available. : sdb: Write Protect is off : sdb: assuming drive cache: write through : sdb : READ CAPACITY failed. : sdb : status=0, message=00, host=1, driver=00 : sdb : sense not available. : sdb: Write Protect is off : sdb: assuming drive cache: write through : sdb:<3>scsi4 (0:0): rejecting I/O to device being r : Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0 : scsi4 (0:0): rejecting I/O to device being removed : Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0 : scsi4 (0:0): rejecting I/O to device being removed : Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0 : scsi4 (0:0): rejecting I/O to device being removed : Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0 : unable to read partition table I also have a (huge) load of these - all the time - related or not? multipathd: no devmap found multipathd: can't get devmaps ... retry Now If I plug it in I get info in log file but no mount happens and no directory is made in /media/ : usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd an d address 6 : scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices : no devmap found : can't get devmaps ... retry : Vendor: KM Model: DiMAGE X50 Rev: 1. : Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 : SCSI device sdb: 1984000 512-byte hdwr sectors (1016 MB) : sdb: Write Protect is off : sdb: assuming drive cache: write through : SCSI device sdb: 1984000 512-byte hdwr sectors (1016 MB) : sdb: Write Protect is off : sdb: assuming drive cache: write through : sdb: sdb1 : Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi6, channel 0 , id 0, lun 0 .agent[13029]: disk at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/ usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/host6/target6:0:0/6:0:0:0 : no devmap found : can't get devmaps ... retry From dwmw2 at infradead.org Mon May 9 22:04:05 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 23:04:05 +0100 Subject: java for firefox on ppc? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115676245.12012.425.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 06:52 -0400, Joe.Hoot at itec.suny.edu wrote: > That worked... and with some modprobing of a couple of modules, my > fans are working more quietly too, thanks to one of your and davids > posts on bugzilla. On a side note, and not really fedora related, do > you know of any java plugins on ppc linux for firefox? gckwebplugin works to a certain extent, as does the IBM JDK in Konqueror. Firefox isn't able to use the IBM Java though. Please don't post HTML. -- dwmw2 From pza at pza.net.au Mon May 9 22:43:10 2005 From: pza at pza.net.au (Phil Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:43:10 +1000 Subject: Below par performance of SATA drives on FC4-Test2 Message-ID: <20050509224310.GA27034@harry.pza.net.au> > The performance of SATA drive is not upto the mark. I used to get > better results on FC3. What could be the possible problem and any > ideas on how to solve it? My Gigabyte 8IPE Pro with a Segate 7200 80Gb SATA disk is getting: Timing cached reads: 3332 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1667.09 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 168 MB in 3.03 seconds = 55.49 MB/sec This is basically the same as what it was with FC3. In fact, all my systems with SATA & Segate 7200 disks all get 55MB/sec consistantly. Phil ---- http://www.pza.net.au/ From jerryw4386 at msn.com Mon May 9 23:00:08 2005 From: jerryw4386 at msn.com (JERRY WHITMIRE) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 16:00:08 -0700 Subject: Mozilla & Firefox Message-ID: Hi I am needing some help with a problem with Mozilla AND Mozilla,Firefox this morning i went to check my Netscape email with Mozilla & Firefox and it says i need to type in a valid email address so i type in jerryw4386 at netscape.net and it will not except it. I had to put in an old hard drive with Win Xp. just to check my Netscape email . Can i get some help with this PLEASE? I am using FC4 test newest version. Oh yea Netscape 7.2 will not setup on FC4 test ! _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From lists at sapience.com Mon May 9 23:23:41 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 19:23:41 -0400 Subject: USB disk problem with kernel 1287 In-Reply-To: <20050509214341.GA4667@sapience.com> References: <20050509214341.GA4667@sapience.com> Message-ID: <20050509232340.GB4667@sapience.com> On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 05:43:42PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > > I've mounted and umounted it fine for short periods. Sorry - forgot to add: # rpm -q hotplug udev kernel hotplug-2004_09_23-5 udev-057-4 and the kernel: kernel-2.6.11-1.1287_FC4 regards, g/ From vamsee.krishna at gmail.com Tue May 10 05:42:04 2005 From: vamsee.krishna at gmail.com (Vamsee Krishna Gomatam) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:12:04 +0530 Subject: Below par performance of SATA drives on FC4-Test2 In-Reply-To: <20050509224310.GA27034@harry.pza.net.au> References: <20050509224310.GA27034@harry.pza.net.au> Message-ID: On 5/10/05, Phil Anderson wrote: > My Gigabyte 8IPE Pro with a Segate 7200 80Gb SATA disk is getting: > Timing cached reads: 3332 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1667.09 MB/sec > Timing buffered disk reads: 168 MB in 3.03 seconds = 55.49 MB/sec > > This is basically the same as what it was with FC3. In fact, all my > systems with SATA & Segate 7200 disks all get 55MB/sec consistantly. > I used to get around 55-58MB/s consistantly in FC3. With FC4-T2, it's not the case. Like I already mentioned, the max is around 40MB/s. And never before did I get this "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed" message. Trying to recompile the kernel with proper attributes. Regards, Vamsee From harald at redhat.com Tue May 10 10:07:53 2005 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:07:53 +0200 Subject: Weird lockup In-Reply-To: <1115378500.4941.6.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> References: <1115378500.4941.6.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Message-ID: <428087F9.8040703@redhat.com> Alexandre Strube wrote: > My machine is behaving strangely for about a month. It completely > freezes when gnome's file dialog is about to appear. > > For instance, if I choose "save as" in gimp, my machine freezes - no > mouse, no keyboard, no answer to ping. > > This happens also with firefox's upload file button in a html form, for > instance to send a picture to fotolog. > > > kernel is 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 > > Some of the installed versions are > gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3 > gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-15.0 > gtk2-2.4.14-2.fc3 > add yourself to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132521 From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Tue May 10 11:08:57 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:08:57 -0400 Subject: Nvidia Dance... In-Reply-To: <7e22d1cd0505082321993113@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e22d1cd0505082321993113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42809649.4030609@www.linux.org.uk> Charles Lesh wrote: > Hey all: > > I've been happily using FC3 with binary nvidia drivers for a while. > > I've also been playing with rawhide, which is sweet, but a no go with > binary nvidia drivers. > > If I remember correctly, FC3 test releases and the initial release > itself could not handle the binary nvidia drivers due to changes in > the kernel. > > Without flames, and understanding how evil binary drivers are, should > I expect a significant delay and lots of screwing around between the > release of FC4 and the nvidia drivers working? (I like to call this > the nvidia dance.) That depends on what Nvidia's response was when you asked them how long it will take them to build a driver that is compatible with FC4. I assume their response to such inquiries will be "no response", and rightfully so. They don't support beta OS releases. They wait for an OS to actually be released first, so they have a stable base to test their drivers on, like most companies would. Once FC4 is released, they will no doubt rebuild their driver on it, and begin their internal QA testing procedures, and fix any bugs/glitches in the driver that are discovered, as well as adjusting the driver in whatever ways they need to adjust it for it to work with the FC4 kernel et al. In other words, more or less the same procedure that has happened in every previous OS release, and will happen in every future OS release for every Linux distribution out there that they intend to provide driver support for. > I wish I didn't need the binary driver, but I have a laptop, and have > found no other way to drive a second monitor ('twinview"), which I > need to do when I give presentations. Sadly, this why windows is still > on one of my partitions. Install an OS release that Nvidia actually supports, such as FC3 (or Windows if you prefer), and be happy. If you want to use FC4, you really have no choice but to wait until Nvidia provides a driver that they support on FC4. In some cases, you can get lucky and find they've released a newer driver that unofficially happens to work on newer OS builds, but that's the exception and not the rule. The same rules apply for ATI proprietary drivers, winmodem drivers, or any other proprietary kernel modules. They'll work when their respective vendors decide to support the new OS release, and fix and rebuild their drivers, and generally not until that time. Hope this helps understand the process more clearly. Take care, TTYL From buildsys at redhat.com Tue May 10 12:12:35 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:12:35 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050510 changes Message-ID: <200505101212.j4ACCZQL028902@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: GConf2-2.10.0-4 --------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Mark McLoughlin 2.10.0-4 - Update to upstream evoldap.schema which uses GNOME's OID base rather than Red Hat's OID. GFS-6.1-0.pre22.6 ----------------- GFS-kernel-2.6.11.5-20050505.133825.FC4.6 ----------------------------------------- audit-0.7.4-1 ------------- * Sun May 08 2005 Steve Grubb 0.7.4-1 - Make sure ausearch ts & te obey DST. - Code cleanups to make file system watches work correctly ccs-0.25-0.17 ------------- * Sun May 08 2005 Florian La Roche - mv /etc/init.d -> /etc/rc.d/init.d - fix Requires * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleanup .spec file to not include globs. chkconfig-1.3.20-1 ------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.3.20-1 - fix deletion of orphaned slave links (#131496, ) cman-1.0-0.pre33.10 ------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. * Mon Dec 20 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. * Mon Dec 13 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. cman-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.14 ------------------------------------------- control-center-1:2.10.1-5 ------------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Ray Strode - 1:2.10.1-5 - Don't pop up accessibility dialogs under currently focused window device-mapper-multipath-0.4.4-2.3 --------------------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Bill Nottingham - 0.4.4-2.3 - Fix last fix. * Thu May 05 2005 Alasdair Kergon - 0.4.4-2.2 - Fix last fix. dlm-1.0-0.pre21.8 ----------------- * Sun May 08 2005 Florian La Roche - fix -devel requires dlm-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.16 ------------------------------------------ elfutils-0.107-2 ---------------- * Sun May 08 2005 Roland McGrath - 0.107-2 - fix strip -f byte-swapping bug * Sun May 08 2005 Roland McGrath - 0.107-1 - update to 0.107 - readelf: improve DWARF output format - elflint: -d option to support checking separate debuginfo files - strip: fix ET_REL debuginfo files (#156341) evolution-2.2.2-5 ----------------- * Thu May 05 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-5 - added evolution-2.2.2-fix-new-mail-notify.patch to CVS * Thu May 05 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-4 - Removed explicit mozilla_build_version; instead use pkg-config to determine the path to the NSS/NSPR headers. - Use a macro to express requirement on pilot-link (was 1:0.11.4, now 0.12; patches depend on this) - Re-enabled the new-mail-notify plugin (my patch to handle differing DBus versions is in the upstream tarball; but configure.in disables the plugin for dbus versions > 0.23; patched configure.in to allow arbitrary DBus versions, and run autoconf at the start of the build) (#156328) * Sat Apr 30 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-3 - updated mozilla_build_version to 1.7.7 fence-1.27-16 ------------- festival-1.95-3 --------------- * Thu Apr 28 2005 - 1.95-3 - require info packages so the post does not fail - remove /usr/bin/VCLocalRule from buildroot since it is an extranious file that does not need to be installed * Wed Apr 27 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 1.95-2 - Fix build with gcc 4 (#156132) - Require /sbin/install-info for scriptlets (#155698) - Don't ship /usr/bin/VCLocalRules (#75645) firefox-0:1.0.3-5 ----------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Christopher Aillon 0:1.0.3-5 - Correctly position the IM candidate window for most locales Note: it is still incorrectly positioned for zh_TW after this fix - Add temporary workaround to not create files in the user's $HOME (#149664) gcc-4.0.0-4 ----------- * Thu May 05 2005 Jakub Jelinek 4.0.0-4 - update from CVS - PRs libgcj/21372, target/21284 - fix fold ICE (James A. Morrison, PR tree-optimization/21085) - fix weak decl merging (PR c++/20961) - optimize i386/x86-64 movmem sequences (PR target/21329) * Wed May 04 2005 Jakub Jelinek 4.0.0-3 - update from CVS - PRs middle-end/19985, bootstrap/20633, c++/15875, c++/19542, c/15698, fortran/16861, java/21022, libfortran/17992, libfortran/19568, libfortran/19595, libfortran/20005, libfortran/20092, libfortran/20131, libfortran/20661, libfortran/20744, libgcj/21136, libstdc++/21209, libstdc++/21286, rtl-optimization/21144, target/16888, target/21098, treelang/21345 - fix loop unswitching (PR rtl-optimization/21330) - fix i386 ASHIFT to MULT address canonicalization (PR target/21297) - propagate tail call info bit through builtin expanders (PR middle-end/21265) - fix VEC_SELECT in combine (PR rtl-optimization/21239) - fix i386 V4SFmode vector initialization - fix Fortran FOREACH (PR fortran/15080) gimp-2:2.2.7-1 -------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Nils Philippsen - version 2.2.7, fixes bug in SSE2 assembly for Lighten Only layer mode (#145771) and various other bugs - on x86 and x86_64, use -msse and -msse2 to accomodate newer compilers * Wed Apr 27 2005 Jeremy Katz - 2:2.2.6-2 - silence %post * Mon Apr 11 2005 Nils Philippsen - version 2.2.6 gimp-print-4.2.7-7 ------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Bill Nottingham 4.2.7-7 - rebuild gnbd-1.0-0.pre14.4 ------------------ gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.19 ------------------------------------------- gnome-desktop-2.10.0-3 ---------------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Ray Strode - 2.10.0-3 - Revert previous patch--it was wrong(bug 155659). * Wed May 04 2005 Ray Strode - 2.10.0-2 - run gettext initialization routines on startup (bug 155659). gnupg-1.4.1-3 ------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Nalin Dahyabhai 1.4.1-3 - fix the execstack problem correctly this time (arjanv) gstreamer-plugins-0.8.8-6 ------------------------- * Mon May 09 2005 John (J5) Palmieri - 0.8.8-6 - Added patch to fix segfault (Bug #156622) gtk2-2.6.7-3 ------------ * Sun May 08 2005 Matthias Clasen - remove debug spew gulm-1.0-0.pre29.2 ------------------ * Sun May 08 2005 Florian La Roche - mv /etc/init.d -> /etc/rc.d/init.d - fix requires: * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - fixed various problems with .spec file httpd-2.0.54-8 -------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Joe Orton 2.0.54-8 - drop old "powered by Red Hat" logos iddev-1.9-21 ------------ iiimf-1:12.2-3 -------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Akira TAGOH - 1:12.2-3 - Iiimx.Xresource: added a X resource file for iiimx, including the conversionOnKeys resource to allow shift+space. (#138309) * Mon May 09 2005 Jens Petersen - 1:12.2-2 - add gimlet-desktop-dir-149226.patch to install desktop file in the right place (Mark McLoughlin, 149226) * Tue May 03 2005 Jens Petersen - 1:12.2-1 - update to final upstream 12.2 release - the following patches are now upstream: iiimgcf-multilib-r2584-155960.patch, iiimsf-shift-space-for-korean-r2592-156171.patch, htt_xbe-correct-error-message-r2594-156169.patch, xiiimp-multilib-r2585-155963.patch - no longer need to rebootstrap iiimgcf kernel-2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 ------------------------ * Fri May 06 2005 Dave Jones - Add PCI ID for new sundance driver. (#156859) libexif-0.6.12-3 ---------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Matthias Clasen - Prevent infinite recursion (#156365) mkinitrd-4.2.12-1 ----------------- * Wed May 04 2005 Peter Jones - 4.2.12-1 - Don't copy "console=" arguments from /proc/cmdline to init netpbm-10.27-2 -------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Jindrich Novy 10.27-2 - fix invalid strcmp condition in bmptopnm, typo in pnmtojpeg (David Constanzo, #157106, #157118) - proper read longs and shorts in libpm.c (David Constanzo, #157110) - fix segfault in bmptopnm caused by freeing an uninitialized pointer parted-1.6.22-2 --------------- * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Lumens 1.6.22-2 - Added upstream patch to display certain Apple_Free partitions (#154479). perl-PDL-2.4.1-10 ----------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 Jose Pedro Oliveira - 2.4.1-10 - Bring up to date with current Fedora.Extras perl spec template. (#156482) - disable SMP flags so it actually builds perl-Text-Kakasi-1.05-13 ------------------------ * Sat Apr 30 2005 Jose Pedro Oliveira - 1.05-13 - Added missing build requirement: kakasi-dict. (#156479) - Bring up to date with current Fedora.Extras perl spec template. perl-XML-NamespaceSupport-1.08-7 -------------------------------- redhat-artwork-0.122-8 ---------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-8 - OpenOffice icon names change to not reflect versions anymore Change symlinks to reflect this * Thu May 05 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-7 - Add patch that changes the ythickness of the bluecurve-menu-item style in the bluecurve theme so the menu applet does not expand the default panel size which causes launchers icons in the panel to be scaled and become blured (Bug #146980) sendmail-8.13.4-2 ----------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Thomas Woerner 8.13.4-2 - using new certificates directory /etc/pki/tls/certs setarch-1.7-3 ------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.7-3 - don't strip binary, fixes debuginfo generation struts11-0:1.1-1jpp_6fc ----------------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.1-1jpp_6fc - Work around a classloader issue (#157205). system-config-nfs-1.3.10-1 -------------------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Nils Philippsen 1.3.10 - pick up updated translations system-config-services-0.8.25-1 ------------------------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Nils Philippsen - 0.8.25 - pick up updated translations system-config-users-1.2.38-1 ---------------------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Nils Philippsen - 1.2.38 - pick up updated translations * Fri May 06 2005 Nils Philippsen - make desktop file rebuild consistently tcp_wrappers-7.6-39 ------------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Thomas Woerner 7.6-39 - fixed sig patch (#141110). Thanks to Nikita Shulga for the patch tetex-3.0-4 ----------- * Wed May 04 2005 Jindrich Novy 3.0-4 - add envlab package (#149212) - fix usage of uninitialized variable in ttf2afm.c (#149212) * Mon Apr 25 2005 Jindrich Novy - add Requires: fonts-japanese >= 0.20050222-2 to xdvi subpackage when Japanese is enabled - switch from /usr/share/fonts/ja to /usr/share/fonts/japanese (#155880) * Mon Apr 25 2005 MATSUURA Takanori - use htt as input method for pxdvi - update pxdvi to 22.84.9 j1.22 - fix pxdvi installation - update to ptex-src-3.1.8.1, dvips-jpatch-p1.7, mensexk-2.6a - delete japanese.map, now included in dvipsk-jpatch-p1.7 udev-057-5 ---------- * Thu May 05 2005 Bill Nottingham - 057-5 - rebuild up2date-4.4.18-1 ---------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Adrian Likins 4.4.18 - fix problem with missing import xscreensaver-1:4.21-3 --------------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Ray Strode 1:4.21-3 - Use @libexecdir@/xscreensaver instead of @HACKDIR@ in default configuration file so that the path gets expanded fully (bug 156906). From greenrd at presidium.org Tue May 10 12:26:03 2005 From: greenrd at presidium.org (Robin Green) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:26:03 +0100 Subject: Mozilla & Firefox References: Message-ID: On Mon, 09 May 2005 16:00:08 -0700, JERRY WHITMIRE wrote: > Hi > I am needing some help with a problem with Mozilla AND Mozilla,Firefox > this morning i went to check my Netscape email with Mozilla & Firefox and it > says i need to type in a valid email address so i type in > jerryw4386 at netscape.net > and it will not except it. What website did you go to check your email with Firefox? And can you copy and paste the exact error message. Thanks. -- Robin From agk at redhat.com Tue May 10 12:40:00 2005 From: agk at redhat.com (Alasdair G Kergon) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:40:00 +0100 Subject: Problems with Xen (kernel-xen0-2.6.11-1.1226_FC4) and Intel Corporation 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ Ethernet In-Reply-To: <1112808498.3614.15.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> References: <1112808498.3614.15.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> Message-ID: <20050510124000.GA20013@agk.surrey.redhat.com> On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 06:28:18PM +0100, Keith Sharp wrote: > I am running FC4T1 with kernel and xen updated from Rawhide: > Is anyone else seeing this? Yes, with FC4t2: 2.6.11-1.1226_FC4xen0 #1 SMP Mon Apr 4 21:35:09 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux With bridging, the machine was hardly usable; switching to NAT seemed to fix things, but under heavy load I see similar tracebacks and slab corruption. Alasdair -- agk at redhat.com e100: eth0: e100_watchdog: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex e100: eth1: e100_watchdog: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team ip_conntrack version 2.1 (3942 buckets, 31536 max) - 256 bytes per conntrack vif5.1: no IPv6 routers present vif5.0: no IPv6 routers present NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:2090 in_atomic():1, irqs_disabled():0 [] __kmalloc+0x174/0x190 [] proc_create+0xb5/0x130 [] try_to_wake_up+0x98/0x330 [] proc_mkdir_mode+0x2f/0x70 [] proc_mkdir+0x20/0x30 [] register_handler_proc+0xc5/0xf0 [] setup_irq+0xae/0x110 [] e100_intr+0x0/0x1a0 [e100] [] request_irq+0xaa/0xd0 [] e100_up+0x125/0x250 [e100] [] e100_intr+0x0/0x1a0 [e100] [] dev_watchdog+0x0/0xd0 [] dev_watchdog+0xc3/0xd0 [] run_timer_softirq+0xee/0x1f0 [] __do_softirq+0x84/0x110 [] do_softirq+0x79/0x80 [] do_IRQ+0x22/0x30 [] evtchn_do_upcall+0x82/0xb0 [] hypervisor_callback+0x31/0x3c [] xen_idle+0x7e/0x160 [] cpu_idle+0x41/0x60 [] start_kernel+0x1aa/0x210 [] unknown_bootoption+0x0/0x200 e100: eth0: e100_watchdog: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex Slab corruption: (Not tainted) start=dac14000, len=4096 010: 6b 6b 22 a0 6b 6b 6b 6b 6b 6b 6b 6b 6b 6b 3c c0 Module Size Used by ipt_state 5953 7 iptable_filter 6976 1 iptable_nat 27645 1 ip_conntrack 49577 2 ipt_state,iptable_nat ip_tables 26689 3 ipt_state,iptable_filter,iptable_nat md5 8257 1 ipv6 291585 14 uhci_hcd 37977 0 i2c_piix4 13521 0 i2c_core 27329 1 i2c_piix4 e100 41153 0 mii 9921 1 e100 dm_snapshot 23525 0 dm_zero 6209 0 dm_mirror 28701 0 ext3 148937 2 jbd 66393 1 ext3 dm_mod 67045 7 dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror From maestronn at wowway.com Tue May 10 13:25:06 2005 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:25:06 -0400 Subject: Kernel .1286 In-Reply-To: <427CB1DF.30500@gwch.net> References: <427C8E66.5040808@gwch.net> <427CA0C2.1050001@feuerpokemon.de> <427CB1DF.30500@gwch.net> Message-ID: <4280B632.4010802@wowway.com> Roger Grosswiler wrote: > dragoran wrote: > >> Roger Grosswiler wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> After installing the last Kernel, i get refused the login in >>> runlevel 5. >>> >>> May 7 10:59:03 neo gdm[2932]: session_child_run: >>> /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession default could not be executed >>> >>> Roger >>> >> any selinux warnings in dmesg? >> does it work with enforcing=0 ? >> > hi dragran, > > i've been rebooting twice, strangerwise now it works...i've done a > fixfile relabel once...perhaps this did it, don't know... > > > Roger > Ok, exactly what steps did you do? I am having this problem and I'm unable solve it so far. What command did you type to relabel? Did you relabel the entire file system or just the Xsession file? What else did you try other than the fixfiles relabel? From hubes at spray.se Tue May 10 13:39:41 2005 From: hubes at spray.se (hubes hubes) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: FC4 T3 already out ? Message-ID: 198607677313316@lycos-europe.com ?Hi, I've notices this on one of the mirrors. http://mirrors.xmission.com/fedora/core/test/3.92/i386/iso/ containgen and downlodable FC4-test3-i386-disc1.iso 05-May-2005 19:11 634M but test 3 should'nt be avalible yet ? some last minute fixes where to be made afaik. /hubes 10 Gigabyte Mailbox - http://mail.spray.se/?targetcode=se_footer From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue May 10 13:49:10 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:49:10 -0400 Subject: FC4 T3 already out ? Message-ID: <20050510134910.GA22163@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:39:41PM +0000, hubes hubes wrote: > http://mirrors.xmission.com/fedora/core/test/3.92/i386/iso/ [... > but test 3 should'nt be avalible yet ? some last minute fixes where to be made afaik. They probably flipped the permission bits too early by accident. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 78 degrees Fahrenheit. From WormLineFiles at gmx.de Tue May 10 12:52:28 2005 From: WormLineFiles at gmx.de (Simon Lanzmich) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:52:28 +0200 Subject: Nvidia Dance... In-Reply-To: <7e22d1cd0505082321993113@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e22d1cd0505082321993113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115729548.5886.8.camel@simon.home> Am Montag, den 09.05.2005, 02:21 -0400 schrieb Charles Lesh: > Hey all: > > I've been happily using FC3 with binary nvidia drivers for a while. > > I've also been playing with rawhide, which is sweet, but a no go with > binary nvidia drivers. > > If I remember correctly, FC3 test releases and the initial release > itself could not handle the binary nvidia drivers due to changes in > the kernel. > > Without flames, and understanding how evil binary drivers are, should > I expect a significant delay and lots of screwing around between the > release of FC4 and the nvidia drivers working? (I like to call this > the nvidia dance.) > > I wish I didn't need the binary driver, but I have a laptop, and have > found no other way to drive a second monitor ('twinview"), which I > need to do when I give presentations. Sadly, this why windows is still > on one of my partitions. > > -cjl > Why is rawhide a no-go with the binary nvidia drivers? I use the binary drivers from the NV-homepage on a fully updated FC4test2 system and they work very well. OK, it is a little annoying to recompile the module after every kernel update, but this can be automated to a certain level. So what exactly does not work for you? Simon From mk at crc.dk Tue May 10 13:52:23 2005 From: mk at crc.dk (Mogens Kjaer) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 15:52:23 +0200 Subject: FC4 T3 already out ? References: 198607677313316@lycos-europe.com Message-ID: <4280BC97.1010500@crc.dk> hubes hubes wrote: > Hi, > > I've notices this on one of the mirrors. > http://mirrors.xmission.com/fedora/core/test/3.92/i386/iso/ > > containgen and downlodable > FC4-test3-i386-disc1.iso 05-May-2005 19:11 634M > > but test 3 should'nt be avalible yet ? some last minute fixes where to be made afaik. http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC4-test3-DVD-i386.torrent seems to work as well. Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: mk at crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue May 10 13:54:14 2005 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC4 T3 already out ? In-Reply-To: <20050510134910.GA22163@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <20050510134910.GA22163@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 May 2005, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:39:41PM +0000, hubes hubes wrote: > > http://mirrors.xmission.com/fedora/core/test/3.92/i386/iso/ > [... > > but test 3 should'nt be avalible yet ? some last minute fixes > > where to be made afaik. > > They probably flipped the permission bits too early by accident. the schedule *does* say may 10. rday From hubes at spray.se Tue May 10 14:01:34 2005 From: hubes at spray.se (hubes hubes) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:01:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: FC4 T3 already out ? Message-ID: 176869720420451@lycos-europe.com ?Yah around now (1400 UCT) /hubes > Fr?n: "Robert P. J. Day" > Till: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Rubrik: Re: FC4 T3 already out ? > Datum: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:54:14 -0400 (EDT) > On Tue, 10 May 2005, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:39:41PM +0000, hubes hubes wrote: > > > http://mirrors.xmission.com/fedora/core/test/3.92/i386/iso/> [... > > > but test 3 should'nt be avalible yet ? some last minute fixes > > > where to be made afaik. > > > > They probably flipped the permission bits too early by accident. > > the schedule *does* say may 10. > > rday > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list 10 Gigabyte Mailbox - http://mail.spray.se/?targetcode=se_footer From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 10 14:21:08 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:21:08 -0500 Subject: FC4T3 still writes grub to MBR when told not to Message-ID: <4280C354.1060209@earthlink.net> I have installed FC4T3 from the DVD iso (sha1sum correct, media actually PASSED this time) and during install requested that Grub be written to the first sector of the boot partition, hda6 instead of the MBR. It overwrote the MBR and I had to restore control of the MBR to my FC3 install using the Rescue CD. My system is an x86, Athlon XP system. FC3 is on hda1 and the new FC4T3 install is on hda6. This same thing happened with both T1 and T2, and was noted in the bug report, #151204. I have added this information to the bug report. This _really_ needs to be fixed before FC4 release. Gerry From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue May 10 14:43:58 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:43:58 -0400 Subject: FC4 T3 already out ? In-Reply-To: <4280BC97.1010500@crc.dk> References: <4280BC97.1010500@crc.dk> Message-ID: <20050510144358.GA22392@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 03:52:23PM +0200, Mogens Kjaer wrote: > http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC4-test3-DVD-i386.torrent > seems to work as well. Well, it *is* May 10. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 79 degrees Fahrenheit. From aadm at brturbo.com.br Tue May 10 15:36:43 2005 From: aadm at brturbo.com.br (aadm at brturbo.com.br) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:36:43 -0300 (BRT) Subject: Problems Load balance network - FC4t2 Message-ID: <17111330.1115739403855.JavaMail.nobody@webmail2.brturbo.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue May 10 16:23:28 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:23:28 +0200 Subject: Weird lockup In-Reply-To: <428087F9.8040703@redhat.com> References: <1115378500.4941.6.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <428087F9.8040703@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115742207.3344.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> tir, 10.05.2005 kl. 12.07 skrev Harald Hoyer: > Alexandre Strube wrote: > > My machine is behaving strangely for about a month. It completely > > freezes when gnome's file dialog is about to appear. > > > > For instance, if I choose "save as" in gimp, my machine freezes - no > > mouse, no keyboard, no answer to ping. > > > > This happens also with firefox's upload file button in a html form, for > > instance to send a picture to fotolog. > > > > > > kernel is 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 > > > > Some of the installed versions are > > gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3 > > gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-15.0 > > gtk2-2.4.14-2.fc3 > > > > add yourself to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132521 Seems like there is a kernel bug hidden in there somewhere as well... From mpeters at mac.com Tue May 10 17:31:22 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:31:22 -0700 Subject: FC4T3 still writes grub to MBR when told not to In-Reply-To: <4280C354.1060209@earthlink.net> References: <4280C354.1060209@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1115746282.3251.1.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 09:21 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > This _really_ needs to be fixed before FC4 release. Yes. What I've been doing is just not installing grub at all. Then I make rawhide bootable from within fc3. I agree it needs to be fixed. From morehouse at telus.net Tue May 10 17:54:52 2005 From: morehouse at telus.net (Steven Morehouse) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:54:52 -0700 Subject: Minimal install Message-ID: <000601c55589$5e2e4ba0$2202a8c0@cadstation> Why does the minimal install require 2 cds? The ONLY package it grabs from the 2nd cd is openoffice.org, which certainly is NOT required for a minimal install. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Steve ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: Minimal install Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:02:08 -0400 From: Bill Nottingham Steven Morehouse (morehouse at telus.net) said: > Why does the minimal install require 2 cds? The ONLY package it grabs from the 2nd cd is openoffice.org, which certainly is NOT required for a minimal install. Test 2 or test 3? Bill -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew at nocturnal.org Tue May 10 18:18:11 2005 From: matthew at nocturnal.org (Matthew Lenz) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:18:11 -0500 Subject: FC4T3 still writes grub to MBR when told not to In-Reply-To: <1115746282.3251.1.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <4280C354.1060209@earthlink.net> <1115746282.3251.1.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1115749092.4575.38.camel@mlenzdesktop> I saw the mbr issue with t1. then t2 wouldn't install grub at all if you selected that you wanted it installed the partition instead. so you are saying that it has reverted back to the t1 functionality? :) greeaaat you could go the ubuntu route and ask the user to type in the name of the grub device they want to install to, that won't confuse anyone ;) On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 10:31 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 09:21 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > > > This _really_ needs to be fixed before FC4 release. > > Yes. What I've been doing is just not installing grub at all. > Then I make rawhide bootable from within fc3. > I agree it needs to be fixed. > From notting at redhat.com Tue May 10 18:44:58 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:44:58 -0400 Subject: Minimal install In-Reply-To: <000501c5558a$974cfca0$2202a8c0@cadstation> References: <000501c5558a$974cfca0$2202a8c0@cadstation> Message-ID: <20050510184458.GA11318@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Steven Morehouse (morehouse at telus.net) said: > that was test 2 - I haven't tried test 3 yet. OpenOffice.org was being pulled in to resolve a dependency, somewhat erroneously. Should be fixed in test 3. Bill From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue May 10 19:36:02 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:36:02 +0200 Subject: reason to upgrade to test 3 for minimal? In-Reply-To: <000c01c55589$f44832e0$2202a8c0@cadstation> References: <000c01c55589$f44832e0$2202a8c0@cadstation> Message-ID: <1115753762.3533.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> tir, 10.05.2005 kl. 19.59 skrev Steven Morehouse: > Hi. I have test 2 running after doing a minimal install. Has anything > relevant to a minimal install changed for test 3? Everything I'm > using FC4 for seems to be solid in test 2. I'm new to this - where > can I see a comprehensive list of changes? The summary only lists a > few things but there had to have been more changes to that. Any > kernel upgrade? > > Steve To test the installer. Thats what it is - a *test* release. From morehouse at telus.net Tue May 10 19:41:32 2005 From: morehouse at telus.net (Steven Morehouse) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:41:32 -0700 Subject: reason to upgrade to test 3 for minimal? Message-ID: <000501c55598$44c1d1f0$2202a8c0@cadstation> Do you bother to read the questions before you answer them? ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: reason to upgrade to test 3 for minimal? Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:36:02 +0200 From: Kyrre Ness Sjobak tir, 10.05.2005 kl. 19.59 skrev Steven Morehouse: > Hi. I have test 2 running after doing a minimal install. Has anything > relevant to a minimal install changed for test 3? Everything I'm > using FC4 for seems to be solid in test 2. I'm new to this - where > can I see a comprehensive list of changes? The summary only lists a > few things but there had to have been more changes to that. Any > kernel upgrade? > > Steve To test the installer. Thats what it is - a *test* release. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 10 20:21:30 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:21:30 -0400 Subject: reason to upgrade to test 3 for minimal? In-Reply-To: <000c01c55589$f44832e0$2202a8c0@cadstation> References: <000c01c55589$f44832e0$2202a8c0@cadstation> Message-ID: <604aa7910505101321228a0633@mail.gmail.com> On 5/10/05, Steven Morehouse wrote: > Hi. I have test 2 running after doing a minimal install. Has anything > relevant to a minimal install changed for test 3? Difficult question. I'm sure glaring problems like the oo.org issue have been fixed. However, how minimal installs look really aren't the highest engineering focus so i doubt many changes where made with the intention of impacting minimal installs in test3. The reality is, the best way to see if something is atypically wrong with the minimal install of test3 is to do a fresh minimal install of test3 and see. > Everything I'm using FC4 > for seems to be solid in test 2. I'm new to this - where can I see a > comprehensive list of changes? There is no such 'comprehensive' list. You could query bugzilla and see how many bugs have been closed as fixed since test2 was released. Or you look at package changlog difference between test2 and tes3 for each and every package that you are intimately interested in. No-one has compiled that 'comprehensive' changelog differences. You could go back into the archives of this list and look at all the daily rawhide reports since test2 freeze which should be nearly equivalent. It's important to understand that the test releases are snapshots of the development tree (aka rawhide). The development tree sees some new packages almost everyday, if you want to keep up with the 'comprehensive' changes from one test release to another you need to watch the daily build reports. >The summary only lists a few things but > there had to have been more changes to that. Any kernel upgrade? The kernel question is easily answered by comparing the directory listing on the test2 and test3 os/ tree on one of the mirrors. There have been daily changes in the development tree since test2 release, and those daily package changes show up as updates to test releases. If you have been keeping your test2 system updated religiously, most likely have packages from the development tree that are test3 versions or in some cases newer. -jef"i hate ground loops"spaleta From morehouse at telus.net Tue May 10 20:23:09 2005 From: morehouse at telus.net (Steven Morehouse) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:23:09 -0700 Subject: Minimal install Message-ID: <000f01c5559e$15ff6520$2202a8c0@cadstation> I am pleased to report that Test 3 no longer requires two CDs for a minimal install! :) Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From i.pilcher at comcast.net Tue May 10 20:41:43 2005 From: i.pilcher at comcast.net (Ian Pilcher) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 15:41:43 -0500 Subject: FC4T3 still writes grub to MBR when told not to In-Reply-To: <4280C354.1060209@earthlink.net> References: <4280C354.1060209@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Gerry Tool wrote: > This _really_ needs to be fixed before FC4 release. It is in bugzilla, right? -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher at comcast.net ======================================================================== From jerryw4386 at msn.com Tue May 10 21:26:55 2005 From: jerryw4386 at msn.com (JERRY WHITMIRE) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:26:55 -0700 Subject: Mozilla & Mozilla Firefox Message-ID: Can not log into netscape email [ the error message is ] javaScript Application a valid screen name consists of 3-16 characters and can contain letters,numbers,spaces,and must start with a letter. [ eg, john doe 123 ] please re-type your screen name. My screen name is jerryw4386 at netscape.net this works if i use mozilla & firefox and FC 4 test 2 and will not work with FC 4 test 3. _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From jdennis at redhat.com Tue May 10 21:37:55 2005 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:37:55 -0400 Subject: Mozilla & Mozilla Firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115761075.3203.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 14:26 -0700, JERRY WHITMIRE wrote: > Can not log into netscape email > [ the error message is ] > javaScript Application > a valid screen name consists of 3-16 characters and can contain > letters,numbers,spaces,and must > start with a letter. > [ eg, john doe 123 ] please re-type your screen name. > My screen name is jerryw4386 at netscape.net this works if i use mozilla & > firefox and FC 4 test 2 and will not work with FC 4 test 3. In that case please file a bug report, make sure you specify FC4t3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla -- John Dennis From louisg00 at bellsouth.net Tue May 10 21:57:35 2005 From: louisg00 at bellsouth.net (Louis Garcia) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:57:35 -0400 Subject: New boot.iso Message-ID: <1115762256.14141.1.camel@tiger> I burned a boot.iso for test2. do I need to burn a new one for test3? -Louis From notting at redhat.com Tue May 10 21:58:33 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:58:33 -0400 Subject: New boot.iso In-Reply-To: <1115762256.14141.1.camel@tiger> References: <1115762256.14141.1.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <20050510215833.GA12196@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Louis Garcia (louisg00 at bellsouth.net) said: > I burned a boot.iso for test2. do I need to burn a new one for test3? They're specific to the install tree, so yes. Bill From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 10 22:03:13 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:03:13 -0500 Subject: FC4T3 still writes grub to MBR when told not to In-Reply-To: References: <4280C354.1060209@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <42812FA1.60506@earthlink.net> Ian Pilcher wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: > >> This _really_ needs to be fixed before FC4 release. > > > It is in bugzilla, right? > Yes, bug report, #151204. From romieu at fr.zoreil.com Tue May 10 22:13:27 2005 From: romieu at fr.zoreil.com (Francois Romieu) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:13:27 +0200 Subject: Please read: sym0:0:0:phase change message problem! In-Reply-To: <20050508074032.8861B60688@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20050508074032.8861B60688@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <20050510221327.GA28779@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> Patrick : [...] > People who are running a system using the sym53c8xx controler with SCSI > drives, can't use FC3, FC4t1 or RHEL4 (kernel 2.6.9-5.EL). Also > CentOS4.0 has the same problem, but that's a different story ;-) $ /sbin/lspci -v -s 02:09.0 02:09.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c875 (rev 26) Subsystem: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic LSI53C876/E PCI to Dual Channel SCSI Controller Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 144, IRQ 177 I/O ports at d000 [size=256] Memory at feaffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Memory at feafe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Expansion ROM at feac0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: $ /sbin/lsmod | grep sym sym53c8xx 79577 12 scsi_transport_spi 19521 1 sym53c8xx scsi_mod 129801 4 sr_mod,sym53c8xx,scsi_transport_spi,sd_mod Smoothly running a 2.6.11-1.14_FC3smp kernel (raid1 + p4 ht). -- Ueimor From alan at redhat.com Tue May 10 22:27:18 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:27:18 -0400 Subject: reason to upgrade to test 3 for minimal? In-Reply-To: <000501c55598$44c1d1f0$2202a8c0@cadstation> References: <000501c55598$44c1d1f0$2202a8c0@cadstation> Message-ID: <20050510222718.GD28741@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 12:41:32PM -0700, Steven Morehouse wrote: > Do you bother to read the questions before you answer them? Please read the list archive before top posting ;) Alan From geoffocal at optushome.com.au Tue May 10 23:08:59 2005 From: geoffocal at optushome.com.au (Geoff O'Callaghan) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:08:59 +1000 Subject: fedora/390 rawhide Message-ID: <42813F0B.7060402@optushome.com.au> Hi Guys, I've built a fedora/390 system running 2.6.11-1.1240_FC4 built with gcc4 etc. Now when I ssh to the system I get stuff like... [root at slayer ~]# uname -aL???? ??????.???????.???.?? 2.6.11-1.1240_FC4.???? #1 S[????@?????? ?]# 4:10 EDT 2005 ?390 ?390 ?390 GNU/L???? Now I suspect this is due to issues with the kernel compile using gcc4. Where would I begin diagnosis for a problem like this?? -goc- From m_epling at comcast.net Tue May 10 23:19:26 2005 From: m_epling at comcast.net (amazing powers of observation) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:19:26 -0500 Subject: fedora/390 rawhide In-Reply-To: <42813F0B.7060402@optushome.com.au> References: <42813F0B.7060402@optushome.com.au> Message-ID: <4281417E.4080801@comcast.net> google and the problems with the gcc4 use the last gcc instead Geoff O'Callaghan wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I've built a fedora/390 system running 2.6.11-1.1240_FC4 built with > gcc4 etc. Now when I ssh to the system I get stuff like... > > [root at slayer ~]# uname -aL???? ??????.???????.???.?? > 2.6.11-1.1240_FC4.???? #1 S[????@?????? ?]# 4:10 EDT 2005 ?390 ?390 > ?390 GNU/L???? > > Now I suspect this is due to issues with the kernel compile using > gcc4. Where would I begin diagnosis for a problem like this?? > > -goc- > From geoffocal at optushome.com.au Wed May 11 01:36:02 2005 From: geoffocal at optushome.com.au (Geoff O'Callaghan) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:36:02 +1000 Subject: fedora/390 rawhide In-Reply-To: <4281417E.4080801@comcast.net> References: <42813F0B.7060402@optushome.com.au> <4281417E.4080801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <42816182.9040209@optushome.com.au> amazing powers of observation wrote: > google and the problems with the gcc4 use the last gcc instead > Thanks, but I was more interested in understanding where the problem is occurring rather than getting a workaround. -goc- From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Wed May 11 01:58:06 2005 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:58:06 -0400 Subject: cannot update FC4T3 -> rawhide Message-ID: Brand new install - not upgraded. Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD) is needed by package perl-PDL Error: Missing Dependency: perl(Tk) is needed by package perl-PDL Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::Contours) is needed by package perl-PDL Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::GL) is needed by package perl-PDL Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::Tk) is needed by package perl-PDL Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::Image) is needed by package perl-PDL From justin.conover at gmail.com Wed May 11 02:09:19 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:09:19 -0500 Subject: cannot update FC4T3 -> rawhide In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5/10/05, Neal Becker wrote: > Brand new install - not upgraded. > > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD) is needed by package > perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(Tk) is needed by package perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::Contours) is needed by > package perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::GL) is needed by > package perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::Tk) is needed by > package perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::Image) is needed by > package perl-PDL > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Prolly just a break in rawhide today, just wait tell tomorrow or run yum shell > update > transaction solve > exclude package-that-causes-error > update > transaction solve > run > quit From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Wed May 11 02:36:20 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:36:20 -0300 Subject: Weird lockup In-Reply-To: <428087F9.8040703@redhat.com> References: <1115378500.4941.6.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> <428087F9.8040703@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115778980.19825.2.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Em Ter, 2005-05-10 ?s 12:07 +0200, Harald Hoyer escreveu: > Alexandre Strube wrote: > > My machine is behaving strangely for about a month. It completely > > freezes when gnome's file dialog is about to appear. > > For instance, if I choose "save as" in gimp, my machine freezes - no > > mouse, no keyboard, no answer to ping. > > This happens also with firefox's upload file button in a html form, for > > instance to send a picture to fotolog. > > kernel is 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 > > Some of the installed versions are > > gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3 > > gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-15.0 > > gtk2-2.4.14-2.fc3 > > > add yourself to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132521 It is not the same. Read the gimp part. The machine also locked up sometimes when leaving gnome. Updating kernel seems to fix it. From dcasey at the-caseys.com Wed May 11 02:37:05 2005 From: dcasey at the-caseys.com (Don Casey) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:37:05 -0400 Subject: cannot update FC4T3 -> rawhide In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050511023708.622074C74B@mx.the-caseys.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Neal Becker > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:58 PM > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: cannot update FC4T3 -> rawhide > > Brand new install - not upgraded. > > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD) is needed by package > perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(Tk) is needed by package perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::Contours) is needed > by > package perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::GL) is needed by > package perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::Tk) is needed by > package perl-PDL > Error: Missing Dependency: perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD::Image) is needed by > package perl-PDL > > > -- Work around for this right now is to: #yum --except=perl-PDL update Also missing this in T2 Thanx, Don From jeffy5 at optonline.net Wed May 11 02:50:42 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:50:42 -0400 Subject: Unable To Install FCT3 On Dell Inspiron 4000 Message-ID: <42817302.1070907@optonline.net> Hello, I have been able to successfully install FCT3 on my IBM ThinkPad T-30. However, I have not been able to install it on my Dell Inspiron 4000. When I put in the first disk, it only boots to a blue screen with funny marks on it. It will not boot any further than that. I have also noticed that other Dell laptop users in this news group seem to be having the same problem. Has anyone else been able to resolve this or is this a bug typical of Dell laptop computers? Any help would be greatly appreciated Jeff From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 11 03:58:00 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:58:00 -0500 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? Message-ID: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> I have a currently updated fresh FC4T3 install. Today's updates included a new xscreensaver-base package. I have no screensavers listed when I look at Desktop > Preferences > Screensaver. Do others see this same thing? Thanks. Gerry From notting at redhat.com Wed May 11 04:03:19 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:03:19 -0400 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20050511040319.GA1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Gerry Tool (gstool at earthlink.net) said: > I have a currently updated fresh FC4T3 install. Today's updates > included a new xscreensaver-base package. I have no screensavers listed > when I look at Desktop > Preferences > Screensaver. Do others see this > same thing? It's a bug, should be fixed with the xscreensaver in rawhide. Bill From justin.conover at gmail.com Wed May 11 04:05:56 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:05:56 -0500 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <20050511040319.GA1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> <20050511040319.GA1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 5/10/05, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Gerry Tool (gstool at earthlink.net) said: > > I have a currently updated fresh FC4T3 install. Today's updates > > included a new xscreensaver-base package. I have no screensavers listed > > when I look at Desktop > Preferences > Screensaver. Do others see this > > same thing? > > It's a bug, should be fixed with the xscreensaver in rawhide. > > Bill > I thought they were doing them seperatly for awhile now? # yum list | grep xscreensaver xscreensaver-base.i386 1:4.21-3 installed xscreensaver-extras.i386 1:4.21-3 installed xscreensaver-gl-extras.i386 1:4.21-3 installed xscreensaver-debuginfo.i386 1:4.21-3 development To get the fancy, you had to install them. From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 11 04:19:35 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:19:35 -0400 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <20050511040319.GA1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> <20050511040319.GA1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910505102119497cde92@mail.gmail.com> On 5/11/05, Bill Nottingham wrote: > It's a bug, should be fixed with the xscreensaver in rawhide. Do you mean rawhide as in the public rawhide tree right now.. or the rawhide churn for tomorrow?... the latest xscreensaver in rawhide version 4.21-3 doesn't include any xscreensaver hacks are in the -base package. All the hacks are in -extras and -gl-extras subpackages. -jef From notting at redhat.com Wed May 11 04:23:21 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:23:21 -0400 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910505102119497cde92@mail.gmail.com> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> <20050511040319.GA1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <604aa7910505102119497cde92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050511042321.GB1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Jeff Spaleta (jspaleta at gmail.com) said: > On 5/11/05, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > It's a bug, should be fixed with the xscreensaver in rawhide. > > Do you mean rawhide as in the public rawhide tree right now.. or the > rawhide churn for tomorrow?... the latest xscreensaver in rawhide > version 4.21-3 doesn't include any xscreensaver hacks are in the -base > package. All the hacks are in -extras and -gl-extras subpackages. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156906 Bill From roger at gwch.net Wed May 11 07:29:25 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:29:25 +0200 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? Message-ID: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> Hey, I installed ruby, saw it was a metapkg in 'Development Tools'. So, i could install it via yum groupinstall ruby (which did not install eruby). So i would like to find out, what further groups are available (are there lots more than mentionned in yum grouplist, it seems?) And, if i know eg. i need to install package ruby, how can i find out, in what group this is? Roger From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed May 11 07:32:52 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 03:32:52 -0400 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> Message-ID: <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 09:29 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > Hey, > > I installed ruby, saw it was a metapkg in 'Development Tools'. So, i > could install it via yum groupinstall ruby (which did not install eruby). > > So i would like to find out, what further groups are available (are > there lots more than mentionned in yum grouplist, it seems?) > > And, if i know eg. i need to install package ruby, how can i find out, > in what group this is? > yum grouplist -sv From roger at gwch.net Wed May 11 07:40:58 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:40:58 +0200 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> seth vidal schrieb: > On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 09:29 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > >>Hey, >> >>I installed ruby, saw it was a metapkg in 'Development Tools'. So, i >>could install it via yum groupinstall ruby (which did not install eruby). >> >>So i would like to find out, what further groups are available (are >>there lots more than mentionned in yum grouplist, it seems?) >> >>And, if i know eg. i need to install package ruby, how can i find out, >>in what group this is? >> > > > yum grouplist > > -sv > > thanks seth, but what i wanted to know: i would like to know, in which group ruby is... btw. yum grouplist doesn't show a group called ruby, but doing yum groupinfo ruby shows the contents of group ruby. :-) Roger From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed May 11 07:46:02 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 03:46:02 -0400 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> Message-ID: <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> > > > thanks seth, but what i wanted to know: i would like to know, in which > group ruby is... > > btw. yum grouplist doesn't show a group called ruby, but doing yum > groupinfo ruby shows the contents of group ruby. > > :-) Roger try: yum grouplist hidden -sv From jeffy5 at optonline.net Wed May 11 07:51:58 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 03:51:58 -0400 Subject: No Screensavers Message-ID: <4281B99E.1060004@optonline.net> Hello, I am still not sure as to how to make screensavers to appear. I have done a complete update of the necessary steps to have them appear. However, I still see no screensavers. Perhaps I missed something? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff From roger at gwch.net Wed May 11 08:02:21 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:02:21 +0200 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> seth vidal schrieb: >>thanks seth, but what i wanted to know: i would like to know, in which >>group ruby is... >> >>btw. yum grouplist doesn't show a group called ruby, but doing yum >>groupinfo ruby shows the contents of group ruby. >> >>:-) Roger > > > try: > yum grouplist hidden > > -sv > > *hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa* seth is hiding things ;-) Great stuff, thanks - but how can i find now easily, in which group eruby is? Roger From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed May 11 08:06:28 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 04:06:28 -0400 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> Message-ID: <1115798788.10234.168.camel@cutter> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 10:02 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > seth vidal schrieb: > >>thanks seth, but what i wanted to know: i would like to know, in which > >>group ruby is... > >> > >>btw. yum grouplist doesn't show a group called ruby, but doing yum > >>groupinfo ruby shows the contents of group ruby. > >> > >>:-) Roger > > > > > > try: > > yum grouplist hidden > > > > -sv > > > > > *hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa* seth is hiding things ;-) > > Great stuff, thanks - but how can i find now easily, in which group > eruby is? you really can't. yum doesn't search groups by package. -sv From roger at gwch.net Wed May 11 08:08:55 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:08:55 +0200 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <1115798788.10234.168.camel@cutter> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> <1115798788.10234.168.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <4281BD97.2010101@gwch.net> seth vidal schrieb: > On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 10:02 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > >>seth vidal schrieb: >> >>>>thanks seth, but what i wanted to know: i would like to know, in which >>>>group ruby is... >>>> >>>>btw. yum grouplist doesn't show a group called ruby, but doing yum >>>>groupinfo ruby shows the contents of group ruby. >>>> >>>>:-) Roger >>> >>> >>>try: >>>yum grouplist hidden >>> >>>-sv >>> >>> >> >>*hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa* seth is hiding things ;-) >> >>Great stuff, thanks - but how can i find now easily, in which group >>eruby is? > > > you really can't. > yum doesn't search groups by package. > > -sv > > Would be nice, but nevermind. Thanks for your information. Roger From jerryw4386 at msn.com Wed May 11 08:21:35 2005 From: jerryw4386 at msn.com (JERRY WHITMIRE) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 01:21:35 -0700 Subject: Mozilla & Mozilla Firefox Message-ID: Please disregard the bug i put in on Mozilla & Mozilla firefox bug # 157385. the problem has been solved ! It was all my fault ! i can log on with just [ jerryw4386] boy do i feel about this tall. Sorry for the screw up. _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From arjanv at redhat.com Wed May 11 08:42:28 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:42:28 +0200 Subject: fedora/390 rawhide In-Reply-To: <4281417E.4080801@comcast.net> References: <42813F0B.7060402@optushome.com.au> <4281417E.4080801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1115800948.6029.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 18:19 -0500, amazing powers of observation wrote: > google and the problems with the gcc4 use the last gcc instead this says nothing. All known kernel interactions between kernel and gcc4 are fixed in our gcc4 packages, at least the ones coming from gcc. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <1115787438.3624.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> <20050511040319.GA1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1115787438.3624.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On 5/10/05, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > > I thought they were doing them seperatly for awhile now? > > > > # yum list | grep xscreensaver > > xscreensaver-base.i386 1:4.21-3 installed > > xscreensaver-extras.i386 1:4.21-3 installed > > xscreensaver-gl-extras.i386 1:4.21-3 installed > > xscreensaver-debuginfo.i386 1:4.21-3 development > > > > To get the fancy, you had to install them. > > Does -base come with any screensavers? > > While I like the idea of having most of the screensavers in seperate > packages, it doesn't seem great that -base doesn't have any screensavers > (one or two really basic ones would make sense) > > R. > This package contains the bare minimum needed to blank and lock your screen. $ yum info xscreensaver-base Setting up repositories Reading repository metadata in from local files Installed Packages Name : xscreensaver-base Arch : x86_64 Version: 4.21 Release: 3 Size : 1.8 M Repo : installed Summary: A minimal installation of xscreensaver. Description: A modular screen saver and locker for the X Window System. This package contains the bare minimum needed to blank and lock your screen. The graphical display modes are the "xscreensaver-extras" and "xscreensaver-gl-extras" packages. From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Wed May 11 11:12:58 2005 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:12:58 -0400 Subject: Various problems with FC4T3 Message-ID: Brand new installation of FC4T3 x86_64 with everything: 1) xemacs startup gives: (1) (initialization/error) An error has occurred while loading /home/nbecker/.xemacs/init.el: Symbol's value as variable is void: system-name 2) Some selinux warnings at boot: May 10 21:37:46 nbecker kernel: audit(1115761058.619:0): avc: denied { read } for name=ld.so.cache \ dev=dm-0 ino=25860137 scontext=system_u:system_r:hwclock_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:etc_t tclass=fil\ e May 10 21:37:46 nbecker kernel: audit(1115761058.620:0): avc: denied { getattr } for path=/etc/ld.s\ o.cache dev=dm-0 ino=25860137 scontext=system_u:system_r:hwclock_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:etc_t tc\ lass=file May 10 21:37:46 nbecker kernel: audit(1115775460.800:0): avc: denied { write } for path=/etc/rhgb/t\ emp/rhgb-console dev=ramfs ino=6036 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:ramf\ s_t tclass=fifo_file May 10 21:37:46 nbecker kernel: audit(1115775460.881:0): avc: denied { ioctl } for path=/etc/rhgb/t\ emp/rhgb-console dev=ramfs ino=6036 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:ramf\ s_t tclass=fifo_file 3) A lot of these in /var/log/secure: May 10 22:13:17 nbecker userhelper[4456]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_rootok.so) May 10 22:13:17 nbecker userhelper[4456]: PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_rootok.so: cannot open share\ d object file: No such file or directory] From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Wed May 11 11:40:33 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:40:33 +0800 Subject: Some problems collected from our LinuxSir.Org forum Message-ID: <9792751e05051104404c2b6f3e@mail.gmail.com> fc4t1 (test by: fudaming, austinjust, Rainway, kafer2004) pros: gnome-panel & gnome-applet, alternatives (to swith xinput-zh_CN), (gnome) system-monitor improvements, fonts are more clear problems solved through update: gdm (prevent from login gnome) unknown state: grub (cannot boot winxp anymore, unless do a grub-install before reboot), broken iso, cannot find iso on nfs/hdd fc4t2 (test by: kangchu1, Awei, mopz0506, fudaming, xing, fakeid, wangfeionline, zxhcxd, sihexuan, lpknnkh, FarCry, xufan106, atmel8155, zhusj, linuxkillwin, liulijun01,?? ) pros: alsa enabled problems solved through update: firefox (cannot install adblock), mplayer (only compile when patched), chinese fonts is not installed by default, media test fail, unknown state: reiserfs (prevent first boot), totem-xine and xine-lib not installable (depends: libnautilus-burn.so.0, libFLAC.so.4), imswitcher, iiimf-le-chinput (caused IIimf to lockup when switching input method) , eclipse (cannot run by root), PHP (http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=32702), reiserfs (cannot install to a reiserfs root), blank screen (cannot switch to console), alsa (no sound?... sound of eletronic? Sound Blaster.), nautilus (whereis nautilus-audio) fc4t3 (test by: zhangdagou, aptx, hu_3333) problems solved: 1. found "language support" in a different place than fc3 and before. does it need to point out in release-notes? users always forget to install it and find their desktop filled with *small boxes* after login. 2. default chinse fonts do not contain builtin bitmap fonts. Why not include this free font ("??? Song" by FangQ, http://sourceforge.net/projects/wqy/)? It would greatly increase usability. BTW, FangQ (Qianqian Fang Ph.D., ???, ) is now working on free vector-based chinese fonts, I think he needs support from everyone. unknown state: grub (always install to MBR), refresh rate (autodetected 1024x768 at 70 but too low), no sound (Acer TM 4002) LinuxSir.Org forum for chinese fedora user. http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=40 //bow From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed May 11 11:57:04 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:57:04 +0200 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> Message-ID: <4281F310.8090406@gmx.de> Roger Grosswiler wrote: > Great stuff, thanks - but how can i find now easily, in which group > eruby is? $ LANG=C rpm -qip http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/ppc/os/Fedora/RPMS/eruby-1.0.5-5.ppc.rpm | grep Group Group : Development/Languages Source RPM: eruby-1.0.5-5.src.rpm $ LANG=C rpm -qip http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/ppc/os/Fedora/RPMS/ruby-1.8.2-7.ppc.rpm | grep Group Group : Development/Languages Source RPM: ruby-1.8.2-7.src.rpm -- shrek-m From buildsys at redhat.com Wed May 11 11:59:02 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:59:02 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050511 changes Message-ID: <200505111159.j4BBx2Pg027184@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: ORBit2-2.12.1-3 --------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Mark McLoughlin 2.12.1-3 - Add patch to set the size of the IO thread stack to 256k in order to mitigate the apparent 10M jump in GNOME processes memory usage (#157297) bash-3.0-31 ----------- * Tue May 10 2005 Tim Waugh 3.0-31 - Small fix for multibyteifs patch to prevent segfault (bug #157260). * Wed Apr 20 2005 Tim Waugh - Fixed AFS support for output redirection, so that the correct errors are reported for other filesystems (bug #155373). cpuspeed-1:1.2.1-1.21 --------------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Dave Jones - Fix debuginfo generation. e2fsprogs-1.37-4 ---------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Jeremy Katz - 1.37-4 - added libblkid.so to devel package elfutils-0.108-1 ---------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Roland McGrath - 0.108-1 - update to 0.108 - merge strip fixes - sort records in dwarf_getsrclines, fix dwarf_getsrc_die searching - update elf.h from glibc elinks-0.10.3-2 --------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 0.10.3-2 - Fix checking for numeric command prefix (#152953, patch by Jonas Fonseca) - Fix invalid C causing assertion errors on ppc and ia64 (#156647) gtk2-2.6.7-4 ------------ * Tue May 10 2005 Matthias Clasen - remove the openssl prereq again, as it did not fix Florians problem. kernel-2.6.11-1.1290_FC4 ------------------------ * Mon May 09 2005 Dave Jones - Rebase to 2.6.12-rc4 | Xen builds are temporarily disabled again. libwnck-2.10.0-3 ---------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Ray Strode 2.10.0-3 - fix some rendering issues with the last patch * Tue May 10 2005 Ray Strode 2.10.0-2 - add noticable glowing effect to task bar to counteract focus stealing prevention (bug #157285) lsof-4.74-7 ----------- * Tue May 10 2005 Karel Zak 4.74-7 - fix debuginfo magma-plugins-1.0-0.pre18.3 --------------------------- mod_auth_kerb-5.0-6 ------------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Joe Orton 5.0-6 - update to 5.0rc6 - don't force CC=gcc4 mozilla-37:1.7.7-4 ------------------ * Fri May 06 2005 Christopher Aillon 37:1.7.7-4 - Own all the files we install, or otherwise create. (#74160) php-5.0.4-10 ------------ * Fri May 06 2005 Joe Orton 5.0.4-10 - disable RPATHs in shared extensions (#156974) postgresql-8.0.3-1 ------------------ * Tue May 10 2005 Tom Lane 8.0.3-1 - Update to PostgreSQL 8.0.3 (includes security and data-loss fixes; see bz#156727, CAN-2005-1409, CAN-2005-1410) - Update to jdbc driver build 311 - Recreate postgres user after superseding an rh-postgresql install (bug #151911) - Ensure postgresql server is restarted if running during an upgrade * Thu Apr 14 2005 Florian La Roche 8.0.2-2 - rebuild for postgresql-tcl * Tue Apr 12 2005 Tom Lane 8.0.2-1 - Update to PostgreSQL 8.0.2. procinfo-18-16 -------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Karel Zak 18-16 - fixed debuginfo procps-3.2.5-6 -------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Karel Zak 3.2.5-6 - fix permissions in the spec install section * Tue May 10 2005 Karel Zak 3.2.5-5 - fix debuginfo statserial-1.1-38 ----------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Tim Waugh 1.1-38 - Don't strip the binary. struts11-0:1.1-1jpp_7fc ----------------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.1-1jpp_7fc - Embed struts-legacy classes in main jarfile. sysreport-1.4.1-2 ----------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Than Ngo 1.4.1-2 - fix typo bug * Tue May 10 2005 Than Ngo 1.4.1-1 - collect /etc/stinit.def, #154996 - additional info for Xorg/XFree86, #156305 - fix output problem #154120 - add -S sparse files, #150584, #156858 - don't overwrite output files, #154329 - collect /etc/ld.so.conf.d, #154328 - gather bind stats correctly #143632 - cosmetic fixes system-config-bind-4.0.0-16_FC4 ------------------------------- * Sun May 08 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 4.0.0-16_FC4 - fix bug 157207: allow build to succeed if bind package is not installed * Thu May 05 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 4.0.0-16 - fix out-of-zone data reporting - out-of-zone string comparison should be case-insensitive - fix bug 156913: wrong file permissions for config files * Wed May 04 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 4.0.0-12 - fix bug 156884: handle named.conf with NO options clause . system-config-printer-0.6.130-1 ------------------------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Tim Waugh 0.6.130-1 - 0.6.130: - Another driver name change added to updateconf.py (bug #156605). - Fixed Apply button sensitivity after queue is deleted. - Avoid the need for cluttering up the Info line (bug #117943). tomcat5-0:5.0.30-5jpp_6fc ------------------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Gary Benson 0:5.0.30-5jpp_6fc - Precompile webapps (#157205). vlock-1.3-19 ------------ * Tue May 10 2005 Karel Zak 1.3-19 - fix debuginfo From kapointer at charter.net Wed May 11 12:00:55 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:00:55 -0500 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1115812855.3285.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 22:58 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > I have a currently updated fresh FC4T3 install. Today's updates > included a new xscreensaver-base package. I have no screensavers listed > when I look at Desktop > Preferences > Screensaver. Do others see this > same thing? > > Thanks. Gerry > > Yeah. Its a problem with the default configuration file. What you can do, is use gedit or something of the sort, and change all the ${libexecdir} to /usr/libexec and your screen savers should be back. :) Although I noticed they don't have configuration dialogs anymore... Thats just a hack, but it works fine to me. -- kyle From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 11 12:17:37 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:17:37 -0400 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <4281F310.8090406@gmx.de> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> <4281F310.8090406@gmx.de> Message-ID: <604aa791050511051759836ad3@mail.gmail.com> On 5/11/05, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/ppc/os/Fedora/RPMS/eruby-1.0.5-5.ppc.rpm > | grep Group > Group : Development/Languages Source RPM: > eruby-1.0.5-5.src.rpm The group tag in the rpm header is not equilvalent to the comps.xml file groupings that anaconda and yum use. You can't rely on the header Group tag to match the groupings in comps.xml at all. To know which comps groups a package is in, you pretty much have to grep through the comps.xml file by hand. Atleast until someone clever and with some time to kill starts working with the upstream yum-devel list to implement a groupmember function equivalent. Or if not acceptable as a contributed patch to of yum, then certaintly as a stand-alone cache delving utility like these: http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/download/misc/ -jef From dave_atkinson at blueyonder.co.uk Wed May 11 12:58:22 2005 From: dave_atkinson at blueyonder.co.uk (Dave Atkinson) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:58:22 +0100 Subject: FC4test3 install on x86_64 - can't find lvm partitions? Message-ID: <1115816302.4834.5.camel@phineas.mndnet> FWIW, I just tried to do a clean install of FC4test3 from dvd to my test partition. I noticed that anaconda failed to detect my Compaq P910 monitor, althought IIRC FC3 recognised it ok. Then when I went to do a clean install, I could not see Logical Volume 00 in the disk partition screen. Under FC3, I have Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02 10063176 7753872 1798124 82% / /dev/sda1 101086 35396 60471 37% /boot /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol03 20314748 18074296 1401592 93% /data none 517764 0 517764 0% /dev/shm /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 10321208 9460984 545652 95% /testsys And I wanted to re-install the /testsys partition. LogVol01 is the swap parition, and I have LogVol04 created but unmounted. I stopped the install at this point as I want the installation in LogVol00. Bug? From rstrode at redhat.com Wed May 11 13:42:04 2005 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:42:04 -0400 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <1115812855.3285.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> <1115812855.3285.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> Message-ID: <1115818924.4027.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > Although I noticed they don't have configuration dialogs > anymore... Thats just a hack, but it works fine to me. Uh oh. I'll look into fixing it. --Ray From kyrre at solution-forge.net Wed May 11 13:42:08 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:42:08 +0200 Subject: Unable To Install FCT3 On Dell Inspiron 4000 In-Reply-To: <42817302.1070907@optonline.net> References: <42817302.1070907@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1115818928.4197.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> ons, 11.05.2005 kl. 04.50 skrev Jeffrey D. Yuille: > Hello, > > I have been able to successfully install FCT3 on my IBM ThinkPad > T-30. However, I have not been able to install it on my Dell Inspiron > 4000. When I put in the first disk, it only boots to a blue screen with > funny marks on it. It will not boot any further than that. I have also > noticed that other Dell laptop users in this news group seem to be > having the same problem. Has anyone else been able to resolve this or > is this a bug typical of Dell laptop computers? Any help would be > greatly appreciated > > Jeff Add your comments here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156405 Kyrre From whb at ceimaine.org Wed May 11 13:58:04 2005 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will H. Backman) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:58:04 -0400 Subject: FC4T3 required discs during install Message-ID: Installing Fedora Core 4 Test 3. I de-selected everything from the software groups after selecting a custom install. It asked for Disc 1 and Disc 4. The only thing it wanted from disc 4 was kernel-devel. Is this expected? -- Will Backman - Network Administrator Coastal Enterprises, Inc. 36 Water Street POB 268 Wiscasset, Maine 04578 Tel: (207) 882-7552 FAX: (207) 8827308 Email: whb at ceimaine.org Website: http://www.ceimaine.org The mission of CEI is to help create economically and environmentally healthy communities in which all people, especially those with low incomes, can reach their full potential. From rstrode at redhat.com Wed May 11 14:32:45 2005 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:32:45 -0400 Subject: No Screensavers In-Reply-To: <4281B99E.1060004@optonline.net> References: <4281B99E.1060004@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1115821965.6300.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > I am still not sure as to how to make screensavers to appear. I > have done a complete update of the necessary steps to have them appear. > However, I still see no screensavers. Perhaps I missed something? Any > help would be greatly appreciated. I introduced a bug in xscreensaver before test3 went out. You'll have to use the xscreensaver pacakges in rawhide, but wait until tomorrow because I also introduced a bug that breaks each screensaver's configuration tab which I just fixed a few minutes ago. --Ray Strode From pmatilai at welho.com Wed May 11 14:37:04 2005 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:37:04 +0300 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <604aa791050511051759836ad3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> <4281F310.8090406@gmx.de> <604aa791050511051759836ad3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115822224.18462.6.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 08:17 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/11/05, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/ppc/os/Fedora/RPMS/eruby-1.0.5-5.ppc.rpm > > | grep Group > > Group : Development/Languages Source RPM: > > eruby-1.0.5-5.src.rpm > > The group tag in the rpm header is not equilvalent to the comps.xml > file groupings that anaconda and yum use. You can't rely on the > header Group tag to match the groupings in comps.xml at all. To know > which comps groups a package is in, you pretty much have to grep > through the comps.xml file by hand. > > Atleast until someone clever and with some time to kill starts working > with the upstream yum-devel list to implement a groupmember function > equivalent. Or if not acceptable as a contributed patch to of yum, > then certaintly as a stand-alone cache delving utility like these: > http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/download/misc/ Might as well go to repoquery I guess... which I should work on some more one of these days :-/ Digging out that information isn't exactly hard :) [pmatilai at weasel repoquery]$ ./groupmember.py gcc telnet initscripts telnet: base initscripts: core gcc: development-tools - Panu - --- #!/usr/bin/python import yum import sys class yumQuiet(yum.YumBase): def log(self, value, msg): pass def main(args): my = yumQuiet() my.doConfigSetup() my.conf.setConfigOption('cache', 1) my.doRepoSetup() my.doTsSetup() my.doGroupSetup() for id in my.groupInfo.grouplist: for name in args: if name in my.groupInfo.allPkgs(id): print "%s: %s" % (name, id) if __name__ == "__main__": main(sys.argv[1:]) From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 11 15:25:51 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:25:51 -0400 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <1115822224.18462.6.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> <4281F310.8090406@gmx.de> <604aa791050511051759836ad3@mail.gmail.com> <1115822224.18462.6.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910505110825768dfedb@mail.gmail.com> On 5/11/05, Panu Matilainen wrote: > Digging out that information isn't exactly hard :) See all we needed was a bored clever person. Now is just a question of design as to if and where to cram this functionality for end-users. Is this something that should live in repoquery or something that should live inside yum. A discussion for another list. -jef From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed May 11 15:27:37 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:27:37 -0400 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910505110825768dfedb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> <4281F310.8090406@gmx.de> <604aa791050511051759836ad3@mail.gmail.com> <1115822224.18462.6.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> <604aa7910505110825768dfedb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115825257.10234.212.camel@cutter> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 11:25 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/11/05, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > Digging out that information isn't exactly hard :) > > See all we needed was a bored clever person. Now is just a question > of design as to if and where to cram this functionality for end-users. > Is this something that should live in repoquery or something that > should live inside yum. A discussion for another list. not inside of yum. -sv From pjones at redhat.com Wed May 11 17:44:24 2005 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:44:24 -0400 Subject: Some problems collected from our LinuxSir.Org forum In-Reply-To: <9792751e05051104404c2b6f3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <9792751e05051104404c2b6f3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1115833464.12630.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 19:40 +0800, Yuan Yijun wrote: > unknown state: > grub (cannot boot winxp anymore, unless do a grub-install before > reboot) I can't duplicate this. If you've got more info on the setup, that'd help. -- Peter From fedora-test at drussell.dnsalias.com Wed May 11 17:00:22 2005 From: fedora-test at drussell.dnsalias.com (Don Russell) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:00:22 -0700 Subject: yum update fails after FC3-->FC4T3 upgrade Message-ID: <42823A26.2040506@drussell.dnsalias.com> Started with FC3 system. HW is Toshiba Satellite S103-1115 laptop I burned the DVD iso image to a DVD-RW that used to have FC4-T2 on it... the disk (dvd) label was not changed... Does that matter? The newly written DVD passed the media test. Installed FC4-T3 from DVD, choosing "upgrade". Everything seemed to go fine, until I tried to "yum update" after first boot: It looks to me like it's going to a bad URL for extras... but why, and how do I correct it? Thanks, Don [root at natasha ~]# yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/3.92/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:50:37 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:45:09 GMT Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 4064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Trying other mirror. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: extras failure: repodata/repomd.xml from extras: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. [root at natasha ~]# From terraformers at gmail.com Wed May 11 18:09:49 2005 From: terraformers at gmail.com (Lars G) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:09:49 +0200 Subject: yum update fails after FC3-->FC4T3 upgrade References: <42823A26.2040506@drussell.dnsalias.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 May 2005 10:00:22 -0700, Don Russell wrote: > Started with FC3 system. > HW is Toshiba Satellite S103-1115 laptop > > I burned the DVD iso image to a DVD-RW that used to have FC4-T2 on it... > the disk (dvd) label was not changed... Does that matter? > > The newly written DVD passed the media test. > Installed FC4-T3 from DVD, choosing "upgrade". > > Everything seemed to go fine, until I tried to "yum update" after first > boot: It looks to me like it's going to a bad URL for extras... but why, > and how do I correct it? > > Thanks, > Don > > [root at natasha ~]# yum update > Setting up Update Process > Setting up repositories > development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/3.92/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: > [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:50:37 GMT > Server: Apache > Last-Modified: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:45:09 GMT > Accept-Ranges: bytes > Content-Length: 4064 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 > Trying other mirror. > Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: extras > failure: repodata/repomd.xml from extras: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to > try. > [root at natasha ~]# looks like yum gets the $releasever "3.92" for fc4test3, and there is no 3.92 extras dir on the server. i guess this should be the "development" dir for fc4test, so baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/$basearch/ in the extras .repo file located in /etc/yum.repos.d/ should do it. cheers lars From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 11 18:48:36 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:48:36 -0500 Subject: Some problems collected from our LinuxSir.Org forum In-Reply-To: <1115833464.12630.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <9792751e05051104404c2b6f3e@mail.gmail.com> <1115833464.12630.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42825384.2070709@earthlink.net> Peter Jones wrote: >On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 19:40 +0800, Yuan Yijun wrote: > > > >>unknown state: >>grub (cannot boot winxp anymore, unless do a grub-install before >>reboot) >> >> > >I can't duplicate this. If you've got more info on the setup, that'd >help. > > I'm just guessing, but this might be due to the bug that overwrites the MBR even when Anaconda is told to put grub in the first sector of the boot partition. (bug #151204) Gerry From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 11 19:00:12 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:00:12 -0400 Subject: yum update fails after FC3-->FC4T3 upgrade In-Reply-To: <42823A26.2040506@drussell.dnsalias.com> References: <42823A26.2040506@drussell.dnsalias.com> Message-ID: <604aa791050511120044eb4ad7@mail.gmail.com> On 5/11/05, Don Russell wrote: > Everything seemed to go fine, until I tried to "yum update" after first > boot: It looks to me like it's going to a bad URL for extras... but why, > and how do I correct it? compare rpm -ql fedora-release |grep /etc/yum.repos.d/ to ls /etc/yum.repos.d/ any file in /etc/yum.repos.d/ that is not part of the fedora-release package runs the risk of not working correctly after your upgrade. Your pre-existing extras repository definition from fc3 is most likely one such file. And make sure you don't have any lingering repo definitions in /etc/yum.conf that you have added. In fc3 yum.conf comes with no repository definitions. You'll notice that the fedora-release package should come with a fedora-extras-devel.repo, which should contain the vesion of extras approprate for test releases and the development tree. Your older extras definition is most likely now redundant if you have the fedora-extras-devel.repo file. You also need to be on the lookup for .rpmsave or .rpmnew files in that directory, which rpm will create if it sees a modified config file timestamp. Instead of replacing the modified config file, rpm will either keep you modified file as it and create a .rpmnew file with the new default config OR If will replace the modified config with the new default storing your older modified config in an .rpmsave file. It's a generally useful rule of thumb to look for .rpmsave or .rpmnew config files if you experience trouble with an application after updating that application. -jef From pjones at redhat.com Wed May 11 19:01:57 2005 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:01:57 -0400 Subject: Some problems collected from our LinuxSir.Org forum In-Reply-To: <42825384.2070709@earthlink.net> References: <9792751e05051104404c2b6f3e@mail.gmail.com> <1115833464.12630.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42825384.2070709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1115838117.12630.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 13:48 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > Peter Jones wrote: > > >On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 19:40 +0800, Yuan Yijun wrote: > > > > > > > >>unknown state: > >>grub (cannot boot winxp anymore, unless do a grub-install before > >>reboot) > >> > >> > > > >I can't duplicate this. If you've got more info on the setup, that'd > >help. > > > > > I'm just guessing, but this might be due to the bug that overwrites the > MBR even when Anaconda is told to put grub in the first sector of the > boot partition. (bug #151204) Then grub-install wouldn't fix it... -- Peter From lamune at doki-doki.net Wed May 11 19:14:36 2005 From: lamune at doki-doki.net (Mike Pepe) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:14:36 -0400 Subject: Cirrus logic video doesn't work FC4T3 Message-ID: <4282599C.1080502@doki-doki.net> Hi all, Just wanted to report that I got FC4T3 to install on an Intel SC450NX server. During install, the graphic mode wouldn't work. If anyone here has ever had an Atari 2600 and turned it on with no cartridge installed; well, that's what the screen looks like. I installed in text mode, it worked fine. When it boots and goes into graphics mode, I get the Atari Emulation Mode again. It worked fine in FC3, so this seems to be something new. Anyone else see this happen? From lamune at doki-doki.net Wed May 11 19:23:06 2005 From: lamune at doki-doki.net (Mike Pepe) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:23:06 -0400 Subject: Cirrus logic video doesn't work FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <4282599C.1080502@doki-doki.net> References: <4282599C.1080502@doki-doki.net> Message-ID: <42825B9A.7060008@doki-doki.net> Sorry, forgot to add this detail: [root at test ~]# lspci -vt -+-[0000:01]-+-01.0 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] | +-03.0 LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53C896/897 | +-03.1 LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53C896/897 | +-04.0-[0000:02]-- | \-04.1 Mylex Corporation DAC960PG \-[0000:00]-+-08.0 LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c810 +-0a.0 Cirrus Logic GD 5480 +-0b.0 Intel Corporation 683053 Programmable Interrupt Device +-0c.0 Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA +-0c.1 Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE +-0c.2 Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB +-0c.3 Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI +-10.0 Intel Corporation 450NX - 82451NX Memory & I/O Controller +-12.0 Intel Corporation 450NX - 82454NX/84460GX PCI Expander Bridge \-13.0 Intel Corporation 450NX - 82454NX/84460GX PCI Expander Bridge Mike Pepe wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wanted to report that I got FC4T3 to install on an Intel SC450NX > server. > > During install, the graphic mode wouldn't work. If anyone here has ever > had an Atari 2600 and turned it on with no cartridge installed; well, > that's what the screen looks like. > > I installed in text mode, it worked fine. > > When it boots and goes into graphics mode, I get the Atari Emulation > Mode again. > > It worked fine in FC3, so this seems to be something new. > > Anyone else see this happen? > From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 11 19:38:39 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:38:39 -0500 Subject: Some problems collected from our LinuxSir.Org forum In-Reply-To: <1115838117.12630.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <9792751e05051104404c2b6f3e@mail.gmail.com> <1115833464.12630.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42825384.2070709@earthlink.net> <1115838117.12630.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42825F3F.1030204@earthlink.net> Peter Jones wrote: >On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 13:48 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>Peter Jones wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 19:40 +0800, Yuan Yijun wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>unknown state: >>>>grub (cannot boot winxp anymore, unless do a grub-install before >>>>reboot) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I can't duplicate this. If you've got more info on the setup, that'd >>>help. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I'm just guessing, but this might be due to the bug that overwrites the >>MBR even when Anaconda is told to put grub in the first sector of the >>boot partition. (bug #151204) >> >> > >Then grub-install wouldn't fix it... > > That depends on how one recovers from having the MBR overwritten. I normally have grub controlled from my "main" distro, i.e., FC3 at the moment. That grub.conf contains the records to boot every installed system, including Windows XP. So, after the MBR gets overwritten, I have to boot to FC3 from a rescue disc and then run grub-install in FC3 to get back to the normal situation. I, of course, don't know if that is at all related to the problem the original user submitting the pos is experiencing. Gerry From jreiser at BitWagon.com Wed May 11 19:48:28 2005 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:48:28 -0700 Subject: No video for text virtual consoles on FC4t3 ppc Message-ID: <4282618C.7020403@BitWagon.com> Whenever I try Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch from graphical X11 console to text console, then I get DPMS suspend mode on the CRT monitor. Switching back to graphical via Ctrl-Alt-F7 works. This is Fedora Core 4 Test 3, PowerPC Mac mini, ATI Radeon 9200, CRT monitor with DDC. Booting to single user mode gives the expected text console. Commenting out the "x:5:once:/etc/X11/prefdm" line in /etc/inittab has no effect: a boot still winds up with X11 graphical login, and using Ctrl-Alt-F2 still gets DPMS suspend. There are 6 /sbin/mingetty running, in state "Ss+". /dev/tty[1-6] exist with "crw-------" permission. SELinux is targeted enforcing; there are no complaints in /var/log/messages or /var/log/audit/audit.log. Has anybody else seen this? Which component is the right one for a bugzilla report about this problem? -- From matthew at nocturnal.org Wed May 11 21:35:05 2005 From: matthew at nocturnal.org (Matthew Lenz) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:35:05 -0500 Subject: FC4T3 still writes grub to MBR when told not to In-Reply-To: <1115749092.4575.38.camel@mlenzdesktop> References: <4280C354.1060209@earthlink.net> <1115746282.3251.1.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1115749092.4575.38.camel@mlenzdesktop> Message-ID: <1115847305.4824.3.camel@mlenzdesktop> I didn't have fc4t3 install grub. Can someone who did have it install grub send me the default kernel and initrd entries for the default /etc/grub.conf? Just wanna see if all the params i'm using are what anaconda would use by default. On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 13:18 -0500, Matthew Lenz wrote: > I saw the mbr issue with t1. then t2 wouldn't install grub at all if you > selected that you wanted it installed the partition instead. so you are > saying that it has reverted back to the t1 functionality? :) greeaaat > > you could go the ubuntu route and ask the user to type in the name of > the grub device they want to install to, that won't confuse anyone ;) > > On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 10:31 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 09:21 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > > > > > This _really_ needs to be fixed before FC4 release. > > > > Yes. What I've been doing is just not installing grub at all. > > Then I make rawhide bootable from within fc3. > > I agree it needs to be fixed. > > > From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 11 21:59:15 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:59:15 -0500 Subject: FC4T3 still writes grub to MBR when told not to In-Reply-To: <1115847305.4824.3.camel@mlenzdesktop> References: <4280C354.1060209@earthlink.net> <1115746282.3251.1.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1115749092.4575.38.camel@mlenzdesktop> <1115847305.4824.3.camel@mlenzdesktop> Message-ID: <42828033.3050100@earthlink.net> Matthew Lenz wrote: >I didn't have fc4t3 install grub. Can someone who did have it install >grub send me the default kernel and initrd entries for the >default /etc/grub.conf? Just wanna see if all the params i'm using are >what anaconda would use by default. > > Here are the entries for mine - several new kernels have been added since initial install: title Fedora Core (2.6.11-1.1290_FC4) root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1290_FC4 ro root=LABEL=/1234 rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.11-1.1290_FC4.img title Fedora Core (2.6.11-1.1288_FC4) root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 ro root=LABEL=/1234 rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.11-1.1288_FC4.img title Fedora Core (2.6.11-1.1287_FC4) root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1287_FC4 ro root=LABEL=/1234 rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.11-1.1287_FC4.img title Fedora Core (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4) root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 ro root=LABEL=/1234 rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4.img Gerry From czar at czarc.net Wed May 11 22:41:40 2005 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:41:40 -0400 Subject: grub installed in MBR problem (151204) Message-ID: <200505111841.40301.czar@czarc.net> With reference to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=151204 a recent comment added to the report is that the problem is fixed in tomorrow's rawhide (12 May development). I have had this problem annoying me for some time now on my x86_64 system. Since the fix is not in FC4T3, I would still like to test it so here is what I plan to do: Download the boot.iso from tomorrow's development and then do a "minimum" ftp install (pointing to one of the servers mirroring development) into a partition. Will this be sufficient to test the fix? -- Gene From matthew at nocturnal.org Wed May 11 23:21:11 2005 From: matthew at nocturnal.org (Matthew Lenz) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:21:11 -0500 Subject: burn images/*.iso to dvd? Message-ID: <001201c55680$1ee51760$0201a8c0@Greeney> Specifically boot.iso to a dvd+rw .. is something like that possible? -Matt From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Wed May 11 23:26:54 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:26:54 -0400 Subject: burn images/*.iso to dvd? In-Reply-To: <001201c55680$1ee51760$0201a8c0@Greeney> References: <001201c55680$1ee51760$0201a8c0@Greeney> Message-ID: <1115854014.26688.0.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 18:21 -0500, Matthew Lenz wrote: > Specifically boot.iso to a dvd+rw .. is something like that possible? Absolutely. But if you have a DVD burner and a DVD drive, why not burn the whole DVD iso? -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From matthew at nocturnal.org Wed May 11 23:35:37 2005 From: matthew at nocturnal.org (Matthew Lenz) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:35:37 -0500 Subject: burn images/*.iso to dvd? References: <001201c55680$1ee51760$0201a8c0@Greeney> <1115854014.26688.0.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <004001c55682$22799de0$0201a8c0@Greeney> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: burn images/*.iso to dvd? >On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 18:21 -0500, Matthew Lenz wrote: >> Specifically boot.iso to a dvd+rw .. is something like that possible? > >Absolutely. I only asked because nero on windows doesn't like me attempting to burn those images/*.iso's to anything but a cdr or cdrw. >But if you have a DVD burner and a DVD drive, why not burn >the whole DVD iso? Because I dont feel like waiting hours for the iso to download when I can just do a network install in a fraction of the time. :) From justin.conover at gmail.com Wed May 11 23:44:44 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:44:44 -0500 Subject: return of the freezing x86_64 kernels Message-ID: Ok, got home from work today and the 1288 locked up. booted the box, updated to 1290, and I would say it wasn't up more than 20 minutes before it locked, the only things running on it at the time was xmms and a screensaver or two. Jumped back to 1287 to see if it locks on me. From justin.conover at gmail.com Wed May 11 23:48:05 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:48:05 -0500 Subject: return of the freezing x86_64 kernels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5/11/05, Justin Conover wrote: > Ok, got home from work today and the 1288 locked up. booted the box, > updated to 1290, and I would say it wasn't up more than 20 minutes > before it locked, the only things running on it at the time was xmms > and a screensaver or two. > > Jumped back to 1287 to see if it locks on me. > Another thing, both times it has blown out my changes in xorg.conf. From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Thu May 12 00:00:38 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:00:38 +0800 Subject: Some problems collected from our LinuxSir.Org forum In-Reply-To: <42825F3F.1030204@earthlink.net> References: <9792751e05051104404c2b6f3e@mail.gmail.com> <1115833464.12630.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42825384.2070709@earthlink.net> <1115838117.12630.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42825F3F.1030204@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <9792751e050511170038b286b1@mail.gmail.com> No. I just collect them as much as I can do. there would be more bug-related issues from original users, but not now, since not every one can speak English, and these original users are not used to use bugzilla and mailling-list. We need some help, that is, though our posts cannot be understood easily sometimes, since English is not our mother-tongue, pls be patient and show your tolerance. Thank you. what about the bitmap font issue and the alsa noise issue? any comments? From shiva at sewingwitch.com Thu May 12 00:29:15 2005 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:29:15 -0700 Subject: burn images/*.iso to dvd? In-Reply-To: <004001c55682$22799de0$0201a8c0@Greeney> References: <001201c55680$1ee51760$0201a8c0@Greeney> <1115854014.26688.0.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> <004001c55682$22799de0$0201a8c0@Greeney> Message-ID: <16E6896763C1D54555A86761@[10.169.6.246]> --On Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:35 PM -0500 Matthew Lenz wrote: > Because I dont feel like waiting hours for the iso to download when I can > just do a network install in a fraction of the time. :) I haven't looked at a recent .iso. do they have yum repository metadata in the RPMS directory so that the mounted image can be used for the base repo? I'm currently using FC2 and create a symlink farm to the mounted CD images and create metadata for the farm. From lamune at doki-doki.net Thu May 12 00:44:13 2005 From: lamune at doki-doki.net (Mike Pepe) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:44:13 -0400 Subject: burn images/*.iso to dvd? In-Reply-To: <001201c55680$1ee51760$0201a8c0@Greeney> References: <001201c55680$1ee51760$0201a8c0@Greeney> Message-ID: <4282A6DD.2050509@doki-doki.net> The organization of DVD and CD media is physically different. Most software won't even let you burn a CD ISO image onto DVD media. I don't think if you did that the resultant disc would be readable, but I'm not sure about that. Plus, there's no point, just stick in the CDR/CDRW media in your DVD recorder drive and burn it. The CD media is lots cheaper anyway. Matthew Lenz wrote: > Specifically boot.iso to a dvd+rw .. is something like that possible? > > -Matt From jeffy5 at optonline.net Thu May 12 01:55:48 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:55:48 -0400 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <1115812855.3285.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> <1115812855.3285.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> Message-ID: <4282B7A4.2050500@optonline.net> Kyle Pointer wrote: >On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 22:58 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>I have a currently updated fresh FC4T3 install. Today's updates >>included a new xscreensaver-base package. I have no screensavers listed >>when I look at Desktop > Preferences > Screensaver. Do others see this >>same thing? >> >>Thanks. Gerry >> >> >> >> >Yeah. Its a problem with the default configuration file. >What you can do, is use gedit or something of the sort, and change all >the ${libexecdir} to /usr/libexec and your screen savers should be >back. :) Although I noticed they don't have configuration dialogs >anymore... Thats just a hack, but it works fine to me. > -- kyle > > > Hello Kyle, I am not sure as to how you do this. I see /usr/libexec/screensavers , but I don't know how to configure the above to get my screensavers to appear. How do I change the $ {libexecdir} to /usr/libexec ? Any help would be appreciated. Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Thu May 12 02:07:09 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:07:09 -0400 Subject: Cirrus logic video doesn't work FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <4282599C.1080502@doki-doki.net> References: <4282599C.1080502@doki-doki.net> Message-ID: <4282BA4D.2020804@www.linux.org.uk> Mike Pepe wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wanted to report that I got FC4T3 to install on an Intel SC450NX > server. > > During install, the graphic mode wouldn't work. If anyone here has ever > had an Atari 2600 and turned it on with no cartridge installed; well, > that's what the screen looks like. > > I installed in text mode, it worked fine. > > When it boots and goes into graphics mode, I get the Atari Emulation > Mode again. > > It worked fine in FC3, so this seems to be something new. > > Anyone else see this happen? > http://bugs.freedesktop.org -> "xorg" component HTH From kapointer at charter.net Thu May 12 03:35:18 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:35:18 -0500 Subject: init * == bad Message-ID: <1115868918.3657.0.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> I've tried using init 2 to change runlevels. And when I do. It stops. I have to hard-reboot. Quite unpleasant considering I only wanted to install NVidia drivers... :) -- kyle From scott.aaron at abc.net.au Thu May 12 03:49:04 2005 From: scott.aaron at abc.net.au (Aaron Scott) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:49:04 +1000 Subject: init * == bad In-Reply-To: <1115868918.3657.0.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> References: <1115868918.3657.0.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> Message-ID: <1115869745.4808.95.camel@localhost.localdomain> What stops? There really isn't any information to really tell us what you mean. Do you mean that the machine locks up? You don't need to use run level 2 to install NVIDIA Drivers. Levels 1-4 will allow you to do that. Alternatively, booting into, say, run level 4 by editing the boot parameters would allow you to do this as well. On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 22:35 -0500, Kyle Pointer wrote: > I've tried using init 2 to change runlevels. And when I do. It stops. > I have to hard-reboot. 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You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/$ARCH --------------------------------------------------------------------- From bartk at clara.co.uk Thu May 12 05:21:24 2005 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:21:24 +0100 Subject: Bittorrent for FC4T3? Message-ID: <1115875284.3774.7.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> Did anybody seen one? http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ doesn't seem to have one -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core Rawhide www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.net From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu May 12 05:28:32 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 01:28:32 -0400 Subject: Bittorrent for FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <1115875284.3774.7.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> References: <1115875284.3774.7.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> Message-ID: <1115875712.4604.14.camel@cutter> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 06:21 +0100, Bart Kalita wrote: > Did anybody seen one? > > http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ doesn't seem to have one > -- Read the release announcement for fc4t3 - bittorent packages in Fedora Extras Development repository. -sv From rad at radfiles.net Thu May 12 06:05:10 2005 From: rad at radfiles.net (Brian Rademacher) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:05:10 -0600 Subject: $100 reward! - Marvell 88SX6081 disk problem during high load... Message-ID: <005e01c556b8$8e1db550$0301a8c0@Rad> Yes, I'm desperate, and $100 will be immediately sent your way (paypal, or whatever form you want) upon resolution of the problem by you...I've been trying for months to get a Marvell 88SX6081 on an ABIT SU-2S motherboard to work under Fedora...Thought I would post some of the relevent dmesg output to see if anyone has any ideas...Long story short, under a high load (in this case, just trying to format the drives), they go offline and never come back...This happens under FC4T3 and FC3 I'm using two Maxtor Diamondmax 10 300 gig SATA-II drives (6B300S0)... I tested both drives for errors on a different system and they are fine...I have also tried various versions of drive firmware from Maxtor with no luck...If I keep the load low, things work fine...I have been able to format in the past by increasing the inode size, thus causing less load during the format, although it crashed later on with the same errors during an updatedb operation... I have a feeling that this is driver related, which is a bad thing, as ABIT no longer supports my SU-2S motherboard and Marvell doesn't support end users...I have tried A LOT of things in relation to this problem, but feel free to suggest them again anyway... As far as the reward goes, it will go to the first person that comes up with the solution (which must be practical for me, and not something like "write your own libata driver") as judged by the email receipt time...(anyone want to rewrite a driver? I have the GPL source)... Here is the driver init: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:03.0[A] -> GSI 26 (level, low) -> IRQ 201 scsi0 : Marvell SCSI to SATA adapter scsi1 : Marvell SCSI to SATA adapter scsi2 : Marvell SCSI to SATA adapter scsi3 : Marvell SCSI to SATA adapter scsi4 : Marvell SCSI to SATA adapter scsi5 : Marvell SCSI to SATA adapter scsi6 : Marvell SCSI to SATA adapter scsi7 : Marvell SCSI to SATA adapter Vendor: Maxtor Model: 6B300S0 Rev: BANC Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 SCSI device sda: 586114704 512-byte hdwr sectors (300091 MB) SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back SCSI device sda: 586114704 512-byte hdwr sectors (300091 MB) SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: Maxtor Model: 6B300S0 Rev: BANC Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 SCSI device sdb: 586114704 512-byte hdwr sectors (300091 MB) SCSI device sdb: drive cache: write back SCSI device sdb: 586114704 512-byte hdwr sectors (300091 MB) SCSI device sdb: drive cache: write back sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Then this happens mid-way through the format: cfq: depth 4 reached, tagging now on cfq: depth 4 reached, tagging now on scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 (lots of these device offlined message) Followed by: SCSI error : <0 0 0 0> return code = 0x8 end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 407850128 Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 101384192 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 101384193 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 102400000 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 102400001 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 102400002 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 102400003 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 102400004 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 102400005 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 102400006 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 102400007 lost page write due to I/O error on md0 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device (lots of these messages) And then: SCSI error : <0 0 0 0> return code = 0x8 end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 407981200 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device SCSI error : <0 0 0 0> return code = 0x8 end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 408112272 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device (lots of these with various sectors listed) And last: Synchronizing SCSI cache for disk sda: FAILED status = 0, message = 00, host = 1, driver = 00 From nman64 at n-man.com Thu May 12 07:16:32 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 02:16:32 -0500 Subject: $100 reward! - Marvell 88SX6081 disk problem during high load... In-Reply-To: <005e01c556b8$8e1db550$0301a8c0@Rad> References: <005e01c556b8$8e1db550$0301a8c0@Rad> Message-ID: <428302D0.4030202@n-man.com> The cfq error messages you are seeing are supposed to be harmless, but it sounds like they are throwing an error that is causing the device to go "offline". I would suggest that you first try rebuilding the kernel without CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ and see if your problems still occur. I am not familiar enough with these things to be sure what effects doing so might have. BTW, offering rewards for solutions on these lists is highly irregular and might be frowned upon. -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 I allready detached the serial mouse and tried several boot-parameter but no-go Any hints ? /hgm.bg From roger at gwch.net Thu May 12 11:55:49 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:55:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Keyboard hangs while installation? Message-ID: <37947.62.2.21.164.1115898949.squirrel@www.gwch.net> I try to install FC4 on an ancient Dell CPi 400RGT. Booting works quite well, but, if i get to the install prompt to choose the parameters, i cannot type at all...neither enter, nor linux text, nor somestupidtext. I could install freebsd on this machine without any problem. What could this be? Roger From buildsys at redhat.com Thu May 12 11:58:15 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 07:58:15 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050512 changes Message-ID: <200505121158.j4CBwF4m010943@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: booty-0.53-1 ------------ * Wed May 11 2005 Peter Jones 0.53-1 - Make partition installs of grubs first stage behave right. * Wed May 04 2005 Jeremy Katz 0.52-1 - add enablecdboot, enableofboot, and enablenetboot to yaboot.conf - try to detect mac os x and set up dual boot on pmac * Mon May 02 2005 Jeremy Katz - add handling for sx8 device names gaim-1:1.3.0-1.fc4 ------------------ * Tue May 10 2005 Warren Togami 1:1.3.0-1 - 1.3.0 many bug fixes and two security fixes long URL crash fix (#157017) CAN-2005-1261 MSN bad messages crash fix (#157202) CAN-2005-1262 libtiff-3.7.1-6 --------------- * Fri May 06 2005 Matthias Clasen - 3.7.1-6 - Fix a stack overflow mkinitrd-4.2.14-1 ----------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Peter Jones - 4.2.14-1 - Better init argument handling (no uninitialized args) * Fri May 06 2005 Peter Jones - 4.2.13-1 - allow for lvm VGs to be in the /dev/mapper/$VG-$LV format (#154767) nautilus-2.10.0-4 ----------------- * Wed May 11 2005 David Zeuthen 2.10.0-4 - Fix default font for zh_TW (#154185) xscreensaver-1:4.21-4 --------------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Ray Strode 1:4.21-3 - Allow configuration gui to support hacks with absolute paths (bug 157417). From dominik.schastok at t-online.de Thu May 12 12:38:24 2005 From: dominik.schastok at t-online.de (Dominik Schastok) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:38:24 +0200 Subject: ipw2200 and network manager Message-ID: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> Hi, I installed fc4 test 3 on my sony vaio s2vp and I?m having problems setting up the wireless card. The card can be found on the network manager but there it is listed as an ethernet card, not a wireless. I didn?t find a config file to change that and when I try to set up a new device, I can?t choose the Intel IPW2200 card. With the setting as a ethernet card, even with the ipw2200 firmware, the interface can?t be used on my notebook. I?m sure there is a simple solution for this, but I wasn?t able to find it. I hope you can help me. Kind regards Dominik Schastok From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 12 12:46:06 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 07:46:06 -0500 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <20050511040319.GA1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> <20050511040319.GA1240@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4283500E.2060600@earthlink.net> Bill Nottingham wrote: >Gerry Tool (gstool at earthlink.net) said: > > >>I have a currently updated fresh FC4T3 install. Today's updates >>included a new xscreensaver-base package. I have no screensavers listed >>when I look at Desktop > Preferences > Screensaver. Do others see this >>same thing? >> >> > >It's a bug, should be fixed with the xscreensaver in rawhide. > >Bill > > > I just upated to the latest xscreensaver packages: [gerry at gst-fc4t3 ~]$ rpm -qa xscreensaver* xscreensaver-base-4.21-4 xscreensaver-gl-extras-4.21-4 xscreensaver-debuginfo-4.21-4 xscreensaver-extras-4.21-4 and I still have no screensavers listed in Desktop > Preferences > Screensaver. I didn't have the packages other than xsceensaver-base installed before my original post, but they make no difference either. Logout/login makes no difference. What am I missing? Is there some new need to edit a config file? Thanks. Gerry From zac9 at CDC.GOV Thu May 12 12:46:56 2005 From: zac9 at CDC.GOV (Sessoms, Mack) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:46:56 -0400 Subject: lvremove weirdness. Message-ID: <42835040.1060207@cdc.gov> has anyone else experienced fedora core 4 not being able to remove existing volume groups during install? i was able to get rid of them using a rh9 install cd. From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 12 12:51:40 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 07:51:40 -0500 Subject: FC4T3 hangs during boot at installation In-Reply-To: <200505121150.j4CBo5no012255@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200505121150.j4CBo5no012255@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4283515C.9050002@earthlink.net> HGM.bg (GMX) wrote: >Hi, > >I have a running FC2 system and tried to boot FC4T3 DVD. During the >first boot of the system, the boot process stops with > >Greetings. >Input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 > >I allready detached the serial mouse and tried several boot-parameter >but no-go > >Any hints ? > >/hgm.bg > > > Did you check the sha1sum of the dvd .iso file prior to burning it? Gerry From chrisw01 at privatei.com Thu May 12 12:55:55 2005 From: chrisw01 at privatei.com (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:55:55 -0600 Subject: gpilotd dies during sync setup Message-ID: <1115902555.4420.4.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> I think I saw this bugzilla'd somewhere, but I wanted to make sure. Gpilotd on FC4T3 crashes with consistency for me when setting up my Palm Tungsten T. It's therefore impossible for me to sync anything using it. Before I submit a duplicate bug, I wanted to make sure this wasn't already being worked on. Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom From kapointer at charter.net Thu May 12 12:57:26 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 07:57:26 -0500 Subject: No screensavers in FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <4282B7A4.2050500@optonline.net> References: <428182C8.4090701@earthlink.net> <1115812855.3285.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> <4282B7A4.2050500@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1115902646.3846.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 21:55 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > Kyle Pointer wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 22:58 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > > > > > I have a currently updated fresh FC4T3 install. Today's updates > > > included a new xscreensaver-base package. I have no screensavers listed > > > when I look at Desktop > Preferences > Screensaver. Do others see this > > > same thing? > > > > > > Thanks. Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah. Its a problem with the default configuration file. > > What you can do, is use gedit or something of the sort, and change all > > the ${libexecdir} to /usr/libexec and your screen savers should be > > back. :) Although I noticed they don't have configuration dialogs > > anymore... Thats just a hack, but it works fine to me. > > -- kyle > > > > > Hello Kyle, > > I am not sure as to how you do this. I > see /usr/libexec/screensavers , but I don't know how to configure the > above to get my screensavers to appear. How do I change the $ > {libexecdir} to /usr/libexec ? Any help would be appreciated. > > Jeff You an editor like gedit. Open your .xscreensaver file with it. Then there should be an option in the Edit menu to find and replace strings with other strings. ( Might be listed as "Replace" ) Then tell it to search for ${libexecdir} and replace it with /usr/libexec/ . Then you should get a list of xscreensavers. :) Its just a hack, but it works for now. -- kyle From ron.flory at adtran.com Thu May 12 13:09:20 2005 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (ron flory) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:09:20 -0500 Subject: FC4T3 hangs during boot at installation In-Reply-To: <200505121150.j4CBo5no012255@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200505121150.j4CBo5no012255@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <42835580.5040304@adtran.com> HGM.bg (GMX) wrote: > Hi, > > I have a running FC2 system and tried to boot FC4T3 DVD. During the > first boot of the system, the boot process stops with > > Greetings. > Input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 > > I allready detached the serial mouse and tried several boot-parameter > but no-go > > Any hints ? I wonder if its related to the dead-kbd problems introduced in the 2.6.11 kernel/drivers (sure looks like it to me). This has zapped lots of folks- I can't imagine how it has stayed in there for so long. ron From Christopher.Carney at noaa.gov Thu May 12 13:45:31 2005 From: Christopher.Carney at noaa.gov (Christopher Carney) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:45:31 -0400 Subject: gimp won't load Message-ID: <42835DFB.80605@noaa.gov> Under the latest yum update Gimp will not load or run. -- The only way to find the limits of the possible is by going beyond them to the impossible. -Arthur C. Clarke From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Thu May 12 13:56:12 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:56:12 +0200 Subject: gimp won't load In-Reply-To: <42835DFB.80605@noaa.gov> References: <42835DFB.80605@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <1115906172.3203.1.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 09:45 -0400, Christopher Carney wrote: > Under the latest yum update Gimp will not load or run. Known issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157409 Let's hope Nils can find a fix soon as the 2.2.7 bugfixes are most welcome. Regards, Patrick From dan.dickey at savvis.net Thu May 12 13:52:29 2005 From: dan.dickey at savvis.net (Dan A. Dickey) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:52:29 -0500 Subject: FC4T2 -> FC4T3 Message-ID: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> I have FC4T2 installed on a machine. Do I need to download and burn T3 to discs to install it, or can I just do a 'yum upgrade' or something simple like to that in order to get to T3? Thanks. -Dan -- Dan A. Dickey dan.dickey at savvis.net SAVVIS Transforming Information Technology From kyrre at solution-forge.net Thu May 12 14:01:18 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:01:18 +0200 Subject: FC4T3 hangs during boot at installation In-Reply-To: <200505121150.j4CBo5no012255@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200505121150.j4CBo5no012255@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115906477.3350.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Any possibility that it migth be related to this bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156418 tor, 12.05.2005 kl. 12.47 skrev HGM.bg (GMX): > Hi, > > I have a running FC2 system and tried to boot FC4T3 DVD. During the > first boot of the system, the boot process stops with > > Greetings. > Input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 > > I allready detached the serial mouse and tried several boot-parameter > but no-go > > Any hints ? > > /hgm.bg From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Thu May 12 14:02:18 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:02:18 -0400 Subject: FC4T2 -> FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> References: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> Message-ID: <1115906538.26688.2.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 08:52 -0500, Dan A. Dickey wrote: > I have FC4T2 installed on a machine. Do I need to download and > burn T3 to discs to install it, or can I just do a 'yum upgrade' or > something simple like to that in order to get to T3? Thanks. 'yum update' will update you to Rawhide, which is what t3 updates to anyways. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kyrre at solution-forge.net Thu May 12 14:03:27 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:03:27 +0200 Subject: Keyboard hangs while installation? In-Reply-To: <37947.62.2.21.164.1115898949.squirrel@www.gwch.net> References: <37947.62.2.21.164.1115898949.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: <1115906607.3350.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> tor, 12.05.2005 kl. 13.55 skrev Roger Grosswiler: > I try to install FC4 on an ancient Dell CPi 400RGT. Booting works quite well, but, if i get to the install prompt to > choose the parameters, i cannot type at all...neither enter, nor linux text, nor somestupidtext. > > I could install freebsd on this machine without any problem. What could this be? > > Roger Probably this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156405 There are instructions there to bypass the bug as well (provided you aldready has GRUB installed) From cimmo at libero.it Thu May 12 14:08:39 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:08:39 +0200 Subject: return of the freezing x86_64 kernels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42836367.5090906@libero.it> Justin Conover ha scritto: >Ok, got home from work today and the 1288 locked up. booted the box, >updated to 1290, and I would say it wasn't up more than 20 minutes >before it locked, the only things running on it at the time was xmms >and a screensaver or two. > >Jumped back to 1287 to see if it locks on me. > > > Also for me, 1288 freezed when launching Eclipse. Installed kernel 1290 but I haven't tried it very well... From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu May 12 14:11:45 2005 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC4T2 -> FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> References: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 May 2005, Dan A. Dickey wrote: > I have FC4T2 installed on a machine. Do I need to download and burn > T3 to discs to install it, or can I just do a 'yum upgrade' or > something simple like to that in order to get to T3? Thanks. i have two questions related to this. first, regarding just running "yum update" to stay on top of things, even across test releases, what happens if there was a version of some package in "development" that turned out to be badly broken, and the decision was made to back off to an earlier version for the next test release? does this happen? if so, then just running "yum update" instead of reinstalling from scratch would leave you with a system that, for that package, was erroneously ahead of the curve. or is this not an issue? and, second, if one installs FC4t3 and is happy with it, can one just leave it there across the official FC4 release and expect it to be reasonably consistent with FC4 given regular "yum update"s? and, for the sake of access to yum repos, should one hack such a system to fake that it's officially FC4? rday From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu May 12 14:31:48 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:31:48 -0400 Subject: FC4T2 -> FC4T3 In-Reply-To: References: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> Message-ID: <1115908308.4604.40.camel@cutter> > i have two questions related to this. first, regarding just running > "yum update" to stay on top of things, even across test releases, what > happens if there was a version of some package in "development" that > turned out to be badly broken, and the decision was made to back off > to an earlier version for the next test release? does this happen? > if so, then just running "yum update" instead of reinstalling from > scratch would leave you with a system that, for that package, was > erroneously ahead of the curve. or is this not an issue? upgrading from stable to beta and beta to stable again is not supported and never has been. You can use yum to go in that direction but there is no explicit support for that process. > and, second, if one installs FC4t3 and is happy with it, can one just > leave it there across the official FC4 release and expect it to be > reasonably consistent with FC4 given regular "yum update"s? and, for > the sake of access to yum repos, should one hack such a system to fake > that it's officially FC4? no, As above. Stable->beta beta->stable are not supported update paths. -sv From czar at czarc.net Thu May 12 14:39:24 2005 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:39:24 -0400 Subject: grub installed in MBR problem (151204) In-Reply-To: <200505111841.40301.czar@czarc.net> References: <200505111841.40301.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <200505121039.24789.czar@czarc.net> On Wednesday 11 May 2005 18:41, Gene C. wrote: > With reference to > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=151204 a recent > comment added to the report is that the problem is fixed in tomorrow's > rawhide (12 May development). ?I have had this problem annoying me for some > time now on my x86_64 system. Verified fixed in development as of 12 May 2005. -- Gene From fedora at capriclub.de Thu May 12 14:41:51 2005 From: fedora at capriclub.de (Dirk Spiegel) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:41:51 +0200 Subject: install FC4T3? Message-ID: <1115908911.4941.19.camel@linux.workstation> hello, I'm new to the list and youngster with Fedora. Until now I only used Redhat for my web-, samba-, dns- and mailserver. Since I installed FC3 a few weeks ago I'm fascinated from it. Now I wonder if it make sense to install FC4T3 on a seperate PC. Is the basic System working already ok? Will improved versions of programs and services be updated via Network like in FC3? kind regards, Dirk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu May 12 14:46:51 2005 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC4T2 -> FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <1115908308.4604.40.camel@cutter> References: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> <1115908308.4604.40.camel@cutter> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 May 2005, seth vidal wrote: > > i have two questions related to this. first, regarding just > > running "yum update" to stay on top of things, even across test > > releases, what happens if there was a version of some package in > > "development" that turned out to be badly broken, and the decision > > was made to back off to an earlier version for the next test > > release? does this happen? if so, then just running "yum update" > > instead of reinstalling from scratch would leave you with a system > > that, for that package, was erroneously ahead of the curve. or is > > this not an issue? > > upgrading from stable to beta and beta to stable again is not > supported and never has been. You can use yum to go in that > direction but there is no explicit support for that process. just to be precise, then, it *is* possible that, as one goes from one test release to the next or a test release to the final release, one can find a package that's been reverted to an earlier version due to unfixable issues? rday From louisg00 at bellsouth.net Thu May 12 14:58:24 2005 From: louisg00 at bellsouth.net (Louis Garcia) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:58:24 -0400 Subject: SHA1SUM for fc4 discs Message-ID: <1115909904.4747.2.camel@tiger> Did fedora switch from md5sum to sha1sums? What is the command to get sha1 sum? -Louis From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu May 12 14:59:51 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:59:51 -0400 Subject: SHA1SUM for fc4 discs In-Reply-To: <1115909904.4747.2.camel@tiger> References: <1115909904.4747.2.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <1115909991.4604.51.camel@cutter> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 10:58 -0400, Louis Garcia wrote: > Did fedora switch from md5sum to sha1sums? What is the command to get > sha1 sum? sha1sum is the command and yes, it did switch. -sv From jakub at redhat.com Thu May 12 14:59:33 2005 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:59:33 -0400 Subject: SHA1SUM for fc4 discs In-Reply-To: <1115909904.4747.2.camel@tiger> References: <1115909904.4747.2.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <20050512145932.GW17420@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 10:58:24AM -0400, Louis Garcia wrote: > Did fedora switch from md5sum to sha1sums? What is the command to get Yes. > sha1 sum? sha1sum Jakub From byte at aeon.com.my Thu May 12 08:15:06 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:15:06 +1000 Subject: No video for text virtual consoles on FC4t3 ppc In-Reply-To: <4282618C.7020403@BitWagon.com> References: <4282618C.7020403@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <1115885706.4525.80.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 12:48 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > Whenever I try Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch from graphical X11 console > to text console, then I get DPMS suspend mode on the CRT monitor. > Switching back to graphical via Ctrl-Alt-F7 works. This is Fedora > Core 4 Test 3, PowerPC Mac mini, ATI Radeon 9200, CRT monitor with DDC. Hmm, provide more information about the monitor please; I have a similar setup, and it seems to work just well Radeon drivers console works - its just mga and i810 (that are in bugzilla both at rh and freedesktop.org) > Has anybody else seen this? Which component is the right one > for a bugzilla report about this problem? Its hard to say if its a problem, but its generally kernel/xorg-x11 (the latter is more appropriate). Though I can't exactly reproduce this, so like I said, more information wrt the monitor, thanks -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From katzj at redhat.com Thu May 12 15:54:57 2005 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:54:57 -0400 Subject: grub installed in MBR problem (151204) In-Reply-To: <200505121039.24789.czar@czarc.net> References: <200505111841.40301.czar@czarc.net> <200505121039.24789.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1115913297.31373.0.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 10:39 -0400, Gene C. wrote: > On Wednesday 11 May 2005 18:41, Gene C. wrote: > > With reference to > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=151204 a recent > > comment added to the report is that the problem is fixed in tomorrow's > > rawhide (12 May development). I have had this problem annoying me for some > > time now on my x86_64 system. > > Verified fixed in development as of 12 May 2005. Thanks for verifying this Jeremy From nman64 at n-man.com Thu May 12 07:12:26 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 02:12:26 -0500 Subject: $100 reward! - Marvell 88SX6081 disk problem during high load... In-Reply-To: <005e01c556b8$8e1db550$0301a8c0@Rad> References: <005e01c556b8$8e1db550$0301a8c0@Rad> Message-ID: <428301DA.20607@n-man.com> - From jreiser at BitWagon.com Thu May 12 16:19:28 2005 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:19:28 -0700 Subject: No video for text virtual consoles on FC4t3 ppc In-Reply-To: <1115885706.4525.80.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> References: <4282618C.7020403@BitWagon.com> <1115885706.4525.80.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> Message-ID: <42838210.20502@BitWagon.com> Colin Charles wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 12:48 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > >>Whenever I try Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch from graphical X11 console >>to text console, then I get DPMS suspend mode on the CRT monitor. >>Switching back to graphical via Ctrl-Alt-F7 works. This is Fedora >>Core 4 Test 3, PowerPC Mac mini, ATI Radeon 9200, CRT monitor with DDC. > > > Hmm, provide more information about the monitor please; I have a similar > setup, and it seems to work just well Monitor is ViewSonic A50. From /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (II) RADEON(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-56.00 kHz (II) RADEON(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-120.00 Hz (**) RADEON(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (**) RADEON(0): *Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync (**) RADEON(0): *Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480" 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync (**) RADEON(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz xrandr says 1024x768 @70Hz, 16-bit (65536) colors -- From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu May 12 17:09:55 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:09:55 -0400 Subject: gpilotd dies during sync setup In-Reply-To: <1115902555.4420.4.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1115902555.4420.4.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1115917795.14721.8.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 06:55 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > I think I saw this bugzilla'd somewhere, but I wanted to make sure. > Gpilotd on FC4T3 crashes with consistency for me when setting up my Palm > Tungsten T. It's therefore impossible for me to sync anything using it. > Before I submit a duplicate bug, I wanted to make sure this wasn't > already being worked on. Please ensure this is in bugzilla; you might want to have a look here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156646 Dave Malcolm From wes.shull at gmail.com Thu May 12 17:35:30 2005 From: wes.shull at gmail.com (Wes Shull) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:35:30 -0700 Subject: $100 reward! - Marvell 88SX6081 disk problem during high load... In-Reply-To: <428301DA.20607@n-man.com> References: <005e01c556b8$8e1db550$0301a8c0@Rad> <428301DA.20607@n-man.com> Message-ID: Brian Rademacher wrote: > under a high load (in this case, just trying to format the drives), they go offline and never > come back... > I tested both drives for errors on a different system and they are fine... Just out of curiousity, have you tried them on the Abit mobo in question but with a different *power supply*? I had a rash of drive errors a while back (I have 6 hard drives + dvd-r in the system), and it turned out the power supply was dying; the drives surprisngly turned out to be the most sensitive components in the system to voltage fluctuations. --wes From jreiser at BitWagon.com Thu May 12 19:12:23 2005 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:12:23 -0700 Subject: No video for text virtual consoles on FC4t3 ppc In-Reply-To: <42838210.20502@BitWagon.com> References: <4282618C.7020403@BitWagon.com> <1115885706.4525.80.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> <42838210.20502@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <4283AA97.9000405@BitWagon.com> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3280 -- From louisg00 at bellsouth.net Thu May 12 19:59:18 2005 From: louisg00 at bellsouth.net (Louis Garcia) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:59:18 -0400 Subject: NFS install with the DVD iso Message-ID: <1115927958.4848.7.camel@tiger> I am trying to do an nfs install with the DVD iso I have exported from another system. The boot.iso can't find the image. I can mount the export fine and it's world executable. What wrong? -Louis From vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net Thu May 12 20:02:57 2005 From: vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net (HGM.bg (GMX)) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:02:57 +0200 Subject: FC4T3 hangs during boot at installation In-Reply-To: <4283515C.9050002@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200505122003.j4CK33X7031758@mx3.redhat.com> Gerry Tool wrote: > HGM.bg (GMX) wrote: >> I have a running FC2 system and tried to boot FC4T3 DVD. During the >> first boot of the system, the boot process stops with >> >> Greetings. >> Input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 >> >> I allready detached the serial mouse and tried several >> boot-parameter but no-go > Did you check the sha1sum of the dvd .iso file prior to burning it? > Gerry Yes, linux rescue and linux text seems to work, but graphical mode still a no-go. I have an nforce2-board with a nvidia AGP-Card and a standard ps/2-keyboard. /hgm.bg From kewley at gps.caltech.edu Thu May 12 20:05:00 2005 From: kewley at gps.caltech.edu (David Kewley) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:05:00 -0700 Subject: FC4t3 "install exited abnormally"; no boot Message-ID: <200505121305.00995.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> Hi all, I'm installing FC4t3 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 370 with no other OSes. My install source is an NFS-exported loopback-mounted DVD image downloaded with http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC4-test3-DVD-x86_64.torrent; the SHA1SUM checked out. I made two installation attempts; I observed the second one more carefully than the first one. On both attempts, the installation almost completed but left the system unbootable. The first time, as I recall the reboot gave "OS not found" or similar. The second time, the installation exited with "install exited abnormally", and upon reboot, grub threw error 15, at the point of loading stage 1.5. Both installation attempts installed all, or almost all, of the packages I requested before exiting abnormally. On the second attempt, the "install exited abnormally" was printed on VT1 quickly after a package (the last package?) was installed in the X session on VT7. I've asked for an "Everything" install. Besides that, I don't believe I changed any of the installer defaults. Has anyone else seen this, or can you offer a suggestion? David From vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net Thu May 12 20:05:26 2005 From: vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net (HGM.bg (GMX)) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:05:26 +0200 Subject: FC4T3 hangs during boot at installation In-Reply-To: <1115906477.3350.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200505122005.j4CK5Xes032218@mx3.redhat.com> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > Any possibility that it migth be related to this bug? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156418 Nope, because it hangs during the initial boot from DVD (right before any installation !!) >> I have a running FC2 system and tried to boot FC4T3 DVD. During the >> first boot of the system, the boot process stops with >> >> Greetings. >> Input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 /hgm.bg From trulsg at broadpark.no Thu May 12 20:23:38 2005 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:23:38 +0200 Subject: Obersvations after installing FC4t3 Message-ID: <4283BB4A.4000209@broadpark.no> Hi there, after a complete installation of FC4t3 I have the following observations: I downloaded the DVD-iso and burne to a DVD-RW. No problem and media check resultet in PASS. I optet for a manual partitioning as I wanted to keep the /home partition and only reinstall the OS. What I find cumbersome is that the system don't specify the which partition that used to be /boot, /home or /. The only clue is to the swap partition. Well the learning is to document the original size of each partition before reinstalling in order tell which is which. Then, after first boot my system was named [truls@ host"-ip-address"]. However, after yum update and reboot this was back to normal [truls at localhost ~]. When checkin my network configuration I find that my wireless is configured as eth1 ethernet. It should have been eth1 wireless. I have to delete this device and recreate it as wireless to get access to the wireless variables. All the OOo icons on the quick-start menue was replaced by a "?" after the yum update and I had to go to "properties" and set correct icons. My setup is on a IBM TP T30 and so far everything works perfectly after above ajustments. Regards, Truls -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From kapointer at charter.net Thu May 12 20:44:53 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:44:53 -0500 Subject: gpilotd dies during sync setup In-Reply-To: <1115902555.4420.4.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1115902555.4420.4.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1115930693.3332.0.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 06:55 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > I think I saw this bugzilla'd somewhere, but I wanted to make sure. > Gpilotd on FC4T3 crashes with consistency for me when setting up my Palm > Tungsten T. It's therefore impossible for me to sync anything using it. > Before I submit a duplicate bug, I wanted to make sure this wasn't > already being worked on. > > Cheers, > > Chris > > -- > ==================================== > "If you get to thinkin' you're a > person of some influence, try > orderin' someone else's dog around." > --Cowboy Wisdom > > > > It's a gpilot bug. Their working on it. It should be fixed soon. :) -- kyle From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 12 21:04:57 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:04:57 +0100 Subject: Hosing mysql Message-ID: <1115931898.11936.107.camel@localhost> Hi, I want to get rid of every last trace of mysql off of a machine. I can do the rpm -e/yum remove to remove the packages, but where are the likes of the passwords, databases etc stored? From what I can see, /var/run/mysqld has the pid lock in it, with the rest in /var/lib/mysql - is there any more? TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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During the > >> first boot of the system, the boot process stops with > >> > >> Greetings. > >> Input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 > > /hgm.bg > You should probably report a bug at bugzilla. But i don't know if it should be anaconda or kernel - try anaconda, but the devs migth know better and move it to kernel. From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Thu May 12 21:11:38 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 17:11:38 -0400 Subject: Hosing mysql In-Reply-To: <1115931898.11936.107.camel@localhost> References: <1115931898.11936.107.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115932298.26688.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 22:04 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I want to get rid of every last trace of mysql off of a machine. I can > do the rpm -e/yum remove to remove the packages, but where are the likes > of the passwords, databases etc stored? > > From what I can see, /var/run/mysqld has the pid lock in it, with the > rest in /var/lib/mysql - is there any more? Nope. All usernames and passwords are stored in the mysql database, and all MySQL databases are stored in /var/lib/mysql. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Peters) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:51:44 -0700 Subject: install FC4T3? In-Reply-To: <1115908911.4941.19.camel@linux.workstation> References: <1115908911.4941.19.camel@linux.workstation> Message-ID: <1115934704.14497.2.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 16:41 +0200, Dirk Spiegel wrote: > > Now I wonder if it make sense to install FC4T3 on a seperate PC. > Is the basic System working already ok? > Will improved versions of programs and services be updated via Network > like in FC3? It works mostly fine for me - sound doesn't work on my laptop, virtual consoles don't work on my laptop, most everything else is fine - few issues from time to time (I think gimp is currently broken). Only way to know if it works for you is to test. If you are looking for stable, wait a month for fc4 - but by installing the test, you can report issues and help make sure test 4 does run on your hardware. From jeffy5 at optonline.net Thu May 12 21:57:53 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 17:57:53 -0400 Subject: Obersvations after installing FC4t3 In-Reply-To: <4283BB4A.4000209@broadpark.no> References: <4283BB4A.4000209@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <4283D161.7030901@optonline.net> Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > Hi there, > after a complete installation of FC4t3 I have the following observations: > > I downloaded the DVD-iso and burne to a DVD-RW. No problem and media > check resultet in PASS. > > I optet for a manual partitioning as I wanted to keep the /home > partition and only reinstall the OS. What I find cumbersome is that > the system don't specify the which partition that used to be /boot, > /home or /. The only clue is to the swap partition. Well the > learning is to document the original size of each partition before > reinstalling in order tell which is which. > > Then, after first boot my system was named [truls@ host"-ip-address"]. > However, after yum update and reboot this was back to normal > [truls at localhost ~]. > > When checkin my network configuration I find that my wireless is > configured as eth1 ethernet. It should have been eth1 wireless. I > have to delete this device and recreate it as wireless to get access > to the wireless variables. > > All the OOo icons on the quick-start menue was replaced by a "?" after > the yum update and I had to go to "properties" and set correct icons. > > My setup is on a IBM TP T30 and so far everything works perfectly > after above ajustments. > > Regards, > Truls Hello, Your observations are interesting because I installed FC4T3 on an IBM ThinkPad T-30 as well. The installation went well except for one thing: I do not seem able to be able to obtain any audio streaming and I am not able to download any music through LimeWire. In LimeWire, I continue to get the message that "it seems that there is no connection to the internet". This may be the same problem that I am having with audio streaming as well. I also have FC3 installed on another laptop and am able to do audio streaming and download music from the same sources. I am able to connect wirelessly through the internet, though. I am not sure if anyone else is having this problem nor do I know if I should report this problem in Bugzilla. From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 12 22:06:47 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:06:47 -0400 Subject: Obersvations after installing FC4t3 In-Reply-To: <4283BB4A.4000209@broadpark.no> References: <4283BB4A.4000209@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <604aa79105051215062ce2b24b@mail.gmail.com> On 5/12/05, Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > I optet for a manual partitioning as I wanted to keep the /home > partition and only reinstall the OS. What I find cumbersome is that the > system don't specify the which partition that used to be /boot, /home or > /. The only clue is to the swap partition. Well the learning is to > document the original size of each partition before reinstalling in > order tell which is which. For the pre-existing partitions... how where they created originally? Where do you expect the installer to retrieve the contextual information about what the partitions use to be used for? -jef From jeffy5 at optonline.net Thu May 12 22:20:45 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:20:45 -0400 Subject: Results of Installing FC4T3 Message-ID: <4283D6BD.6080507@optonline.net> Hello, I have finished installing FC4T3 on an IBM ThinkPad T-30 with the four CD's created from Bittorrent. The installation went well with no hitches. However, as I began to install extra software (MPlayer, LimeWire, etc.), I saw that I could not do any audio streaming through the MPlayer-plug-in in Firefox nor could I download any music through LimeWire. For that reason, I am not sure that LimeWire can work through FC4T3, for it is working in FC3 that I have set up on another laptop (which is this one which has FC3 installed). With the updates, everything seems to be okay. I guess that with the final release of FC4, everything should be working okay One other thing - I initially tried to install FC4T3 on this laptop, which is a Dell Inspiron 4000 and could not boot from the disks. The only thing that I saw was a funny-looking red checkerboard-colored screen. I already went to Bugzilla and it seem that several other people reported the same problem, especially with Dell Laptops. Hopefully this issue will be resolved. Jeff From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Thu May 12 22:30:50 2005 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 23:30:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: real player 10.4 does not run when installed in FC4test3 In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050512223050.45127.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thanks I will see if this package is installed and if not install it and see if realplayer then works. Presuming all is well I wonder if this is worth raising as a bug report to get that package installed by default for when FC4 gets released. --- Jeremy Rosengren wrote: > DAVID BENTLEY wrote: > > >typing realplay at the console gives this output :- > > > >/usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while > >loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot > open > >shared object file: No such file or directory. > > > >When I look for this it does not seem to be > installed. > > > >What package that I am presumably missing would > >install this file. > > > > > > > compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-47.fc4.i386.rpm > > -- jeremy > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Thu May 12 22:41:20 2005 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 23:41:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: selinux and samba problem ? Message-ID: <20050512224120.45840.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> To be able to acces shares on a linux box running FC4T3 it would seem that you have to disable selinux protection for both SMBD and NMBD for things to work. Is this what is intended or is this a bug. From fonya at fatav.hu Thu May 12 22:43:23 2005 From: fonya at fatav.hu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Szab=F3_=C1kos?=) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 00:43:23 +0200 Subject: rebuilding java packages Message-ID: <1115937803.18671.2.camel@loon.fatav.hu> Hi, I'd like to build ant with gcc 3.4.1, so I must recompile from src package. When I like to build ant, it cry for antlr, and when I like to build antlr, it cry for ant. So what was the first, egg, or chiken? How can I build ant from source? When I like to build ant, it wanted java-devel package, where can I found it, or what package provide it? When I like install java-1.4.2-gcj-compat, it's wanted ant, but I can't build ant without installed java-1.4.2-gcj-compat. Thanks a lot! -- Ciao: Fonya Ami?ta NT-t install?ltam a porsz?v?mra, semmi sz?v?s nincs vele. PGP key ID F86614E5, GPG key ID 83AD9365 From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu May 12 22:49:28 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:49:28 -0400 Subject: selinux and samba problem ? In-Reply-To: <20050512224120.45840.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050512224120.45840.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1115938168.23303.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 23:41 +0100, DAVID BENTLEY wrote: > To be able to acces shares on a linux box running > FC4T3 > it would seem that you have to disable selinux > protection > for both SMBD and NMBD for things to work. > > Is this what is intended or is this a bug. Please see if there are any avc messages in the system log. Also, what kind of shares are you accessing - if you are accessing /home shares, you need to set the samba_enable_home_dirs boolean. -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Thu May 12 22:52:54 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 19:52:54 -0300 Subject: Hosing mysql In-Reply-To: <1115931898.11936.107.camel@localhost> References: <1115931898.11936.107.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1115938374.5630.0.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Em Qui, 2005-05-12 ?s 22:04 +0100, Paul escreveu: > I want to get rid of every last trace of mysql off of a machine. I can > do the rpm -e/yum remove to remove the packages, but where are the likes > of the passwords, databases etc stored? > > From what I can see, /var/run/mysqld has the pid lock in it, with the > rest in /var/lib/mysql - is there any more? rpm -ql mysql-server should give you some information about where it has things. From kapointer at charter.net Thu May 12 23:06:26 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:06:26 -0500 Subject: gpilotd dies during sync setup In-Reply-To: <1115917795.14721.8.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1115902555.4420.4.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> <1115917795.14721.8.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1115939187.10549.0.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 13:09 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 06:55 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > I think I saw this bugzilla'd somewhere, but I wanted to make sure. > > Gpilotd on FC4T3 crashes with consistency for me when setting up my Palm > > Tungsten T. It's therefore impossible for me to sync anything using it. > > Before I submit a duplicate bug, I wanted to make sure this wasn't > > already being worked on. > > Please ensure this is in bugzilla; you might want to have a look here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156646 > > Dave Malcolm > > > Yea, its in bugzilla. I filed the bug. -- kyle From gbofspam at gmail.com Thu May 12 23:31:03 2005 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 19:31:03 -0400 Subject: NFS install with the DVD iso In-Reply-To: <1115927958.4848.7.camel@tiger> References: <1115927958.4848.7.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0505121631e9b50e0@mail.gmail.com> On 5/12/05, Louis Garcia wrote: > I am trying to do an nfs install with the DVD iso I have exported from > another system. The boot.iso can't find the image. I can mount the > export fine and it's world executable. What wrong? Could be any number of things... Have you tried alt-f2/3/4/5 to see what is reported there? Check the NFS server logs, and errors reported? What did you specify as the location? Did you specify the iso, or the directory that it is in? From linxt at comcast.net Thu May 12 23:32:50 2005 From: linxt at comcast.net (Tom) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:32:50 -0700 Subject: Obersvations after installing FC4t3 In-Reply-To: <4283BB4A.4000209@broadpark.no> References: <4283BB4A.4000209@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <200505121632.50473.linxt@comcast.net> On Thursday 12 May 2005 13:23, Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > Hi there, > after a complete installation of FC4t3 I have the following observations: > > I downloaded the DVD-iso and burne to a DVD-RW. No problem and media > check resultet in PASS. > > I optet for a manual partitioning as I wanted to keep the /home > partition and only reinstall the OS. What I find cumbersome is that the > system don't specify the which partition that used to be /boot, /home or > /. The only clue is to the swap partition. Well the learning is to > document the original size of each partition before reinstalling in > order tell which is which. Did you try to "edit" the partitions? In my experience, DiskDruid does not show the partition names on the initial screen, just the list of /dev names. When I select one of the partitions and then click on "edit", it shows what the previous name was and includes it in the drop down list. YMMV. But then, I'm on a desktop system with a server type (dual cpu) motherboard but I wouldn't expect that to make a difference in DiskDruid. Tom >>>>> snip <<<<< > > Regards, > Truls -- Tom Taylor registered linux user #263467 From louisg00 at bellsouth.net Fri May 13 00:39:39 2005 From: louisg00 at bellsouth.net (Louis Garcia) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 20:39:39 -0400 Subject: evolution contacts Message-ID: <1115944779.4429.6.camel@tiger> Just installed FC4T3 and evolution seemed have lost my contact list from FC3. I backup my home dir and do a fresh install. I then go back and copy my data from the backup to the new home dir. With evo I always copy the addressbook.db and overwrite the new one. This time it did't work. Could this be s db3 issue? Someone please help!!! -Louis From lists at sapience.com Fri May 13 02:05:15 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:05:15 -0400 Subject: FC4T2 -> FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> References: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> Message-ID: <20050513020515.GA4579@sapience.com> On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 08:52:29AM -0500, Dan A. Dickey wrote: > I have FC4T2 installed on a machine. Do I need to download and You may have to install fedora-release-3.92-1.i386.rpm by hand. Nothing I tried updated this for some reason ... (cat /etc/issue to check you have 3.92 not 3.91) I had hopes 'yum upgrade' might but it did not do anything. Regards, g/ From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri May 13 02:07:29 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:07:29 -0400 Subject: FC4T2 -> FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <20050513020515.GA4579@sapience.com> References: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> <20050513020515.GA4579@sapience.com> Message-ID: <1115950050.16810.0.camel@cutter> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 22:05 -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 08:52:29AM -0500, Dan A. Dickey wrote: > > I have FC4T2 installed on a machine. Do I need to download and > > You may have to install fedora-release-3.92-1.i386.rpm by hand. > Nothing I tried updated this for some reason ... > > (cat /etc/issue to check you have 3.92 not 3.91) > > I had hopes 'yum upgrade' might but it did not do anything. > it didn't do anything? I doubt that. it always does 'something' -sv From lists at sapience.com Fri May 13 02:21:50 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:21:50 -0400 Subject: FC4T2 -> FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <1115950050.16810.0.camel@cutter> References: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> <20050513020515.GA4579@sapience.com> <1115950050.16810.0.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <20050513022150.GB4579@sapience.com> On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 10:07:29PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > I had hopes 'yum upgrade' might but it did not do anything. > > > > it didn't do anything? I doubt that. > > it always does 'something' heh heh indeed ... so ok ok .. it did spit out a few lines and ended with No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion but it did not update fedora-release. ;-) > From dwalsh at redhat.com Fri May 13 02:30:50 2005 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:30:50 -0400 Subject: selinux and samba problem ? In-Reply-To: <20050512224120.45840.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050512224120.45840.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4284115A.5090100@redhat.com> DAVID BENTLEY wrote: >To be able to acces shares on a linux box running >FC4T3 >it would seem that you have to disable selinux >protection >for both SMBD and NMBD for things to work. > >Is this what is intended or is this a bug. > > > No that is not intended and might be a bug or a setup problem. What is the share and what is its file context? Have you executed a man samba_selinux to make sure it is setup correctly. Dan -- From mpeters at mac.com Fri May 13 02:59:13 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 19:59:13 -0700 Subject: FC4T2 -> FC4T3 In-Reply-To: References: <200505120852.29030.dan.dickey@savvis.net> <1115908308.4604.40.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <1115953153.14497.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 10:46 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > just to be precise, then, it *is* possible that, as one goes from one > test release to the next or a test release to the final release, one > can find a package that's been reverted to an earlier version due to > unfixable issues? Yes. I have evolution in rawhide reverted to earlier version, I believe prior to FC2 release. btw - I have done the "beta -> stable" thing in the past with little problem - of course that doesn't mean there won't be one. Stop updating about two weeks before final release - and when final release comes out, remove the package that provides /etc/release and install the new one from final. Check the /etc/yum.repos.d/ directory - make sure everything is pointing to stable. then - rpm -qa |sort > rpm.initial yum update rpm -qa |sort > rpm.final compare rpm.initial and rpm.final looking for packages that remained the same - and see if they are newer than what is on official. This is of course totally unsupported, as mentioned. It's what I'm planning to do with my headless box currently running rawhide since that is just the easiest way. From trulsg at broadpark.no Fri May 13 05:33:38 2005 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 07:33:38 +0200 Subject: Obersvations after installing FC4t3 In-Reply-To: <604aa79105051215062ce2b24b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4283BB4A.4000209@broadpark.no> <604aa79105051215062ce2b24b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42843C32.3080603@broadpark.no> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/12/05, Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > >>I optet for a manual partitioning as I wanted to keep the /home >>partition and only reinstall the OS. What I find cumbersome is that the >>system don't specify the which partition that used to be /boot, /home or >>/. The only clue is to the swap partition. Well the learning is to >>document the original size of each partition before reinstalling in >>order tell which is which. > > > For the pre-existing partitions... how where they created originally? > Where do you expect the installer to retrieve the contextual > information about what the partitions use to be used for? > > -jef > My partitions were originally created as LVM with the various partitions within that. Yes, I had expected the installer at least to show me the names of the original partitions either in the field named original partition as with the swap partition or as default suggestion when editing the partitions. Truls -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: trulsg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 111 bytes Desc: not available URL: From trulsg at broadpark.no Fri May 13 05:36:09 2005 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 07:36:09 +0200 Subject: Obersvations after installing FC4t3 In-Reply-To: <4283D161.7030901@optonline.net> References: <4283BB4A.4000209@broadpark.no> <4283D161.7030901@optonline.net> Message-ID: <42843CC9.7080907@broadpark.no> Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > >> Hi there, >> after a complete installation of FC4t3 I have the following observations: >> >> I downloaded the DVD-iso and burne to a DVD-RW. No problem and media >> check resultet in PASS. >> >> I optet for a manual partitioning as I wanted to keep the /home >> partition and only reinstall the OS. What I find cumbersome is that >> the system don't specify the which partition that used to be /boot, >> /home or /. The only clue is to the swap partition. Well the >> learning is to document the original size of each partition before >> reinstalling in order tell which is which. >> >> Then, after first boot my system was named [truls@ host"-ip-address"]. >> However, after yum update and reboot this was back to normal >> [truls at localhost ~]. >> >> When checkin my network configuration I find that my wireless is >> configured as eth1 ethernet. It should have been eth1 wireless. I >> have to delete this device and recreate it as wireless to get access >> to the wireless variables. >> >> All the OOo icons on the quick-start menue was replaced by a "?" after >> the yum update and I had to go to "properties" and set correct icons. >> >> My setup is on a IBM TP T30 and so far everything works perfectly >> after above ajustments. >> >> Regards, >> Truls > > > Hello, > > Your observations are interesting because I installed FC4T3 on an > IBM ThinkPad T-30 as well. The installation went well except for one > thing: I do not seem able to be able to obtain any audio streaming and I > am not able to download any music through LimeWire. In LimeWire, I > continue to get the message that "it seems that there is no connection > to the internet". This may be the same problem that I am having with > audio streaming as well. I also have FC3 installed on another laptop and > am able to do audio streaming and download music from the same sources. > I am able to connect wirelessly through the internet, though. I am not > sure if anyone else is having this problem nor do I know if I should > report this problem in Bugzilla. I found that, even though my network device showed active, I was still not connected to the internet. I solved this by doing a "deactivate" then "activate". Truls -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But how should i file a bugreport, it's just hanging there, more i can't tell at the moment. /hgm.bg From mandreiana.lists at gmail.com Fri May 13 09:46:30 2005 From: mandreiana.lists at gmail.com (Marius Andreiana) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:46:30 +0300 Subject: flicker with tvtime, mplayer Message-ID: <1115977590.3657.7.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> I get image flickering in tvtime, mplayer (or other movie players, I tested with videolan too), because an X/kernel bug I think. Does anyone else see this in FC4 tests ? My video card is i865G. Thanks, -- Marius Andreiana From gazzerh at gmail.com Fri May 13 10:58:19 2005 From: gazzerh at gmail.com (Garry Harthill) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:58:19 +0100 Subject: NFS install with the DVD iso In-Reply-To: <6c3f5e6c0505121631e9b50e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1115927958.4848.7.camel@tiger> <6c3f5e6c0505121631e9b50e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fcc9e3205051303581301729@mail.gmail.com> > On 5/12/05, Louis Garcia wrote: > > I am trying to do an nfs install with the DVD iso I have exported from > > another system. The boot.iso can't find the image. I can mount the > > export fine and it's world executable. What wrong? Could you give the exact error message? Which release of Fedora are you tring to install? From mpeters at mac.com Fri May 13 11:38:52 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 04:38:52 -0700 Subject: kernel .1290_FC4 and thinkpad T20 Message-ID: <1115984332.14624.3.camel@fc4t2.mpeters.local> This kernel shows improvement with the virtual console problem, sort of ... I was able to get a virtual console. The right most part of each line actually displayed at the left (wrap issue) - but I could log in and stuff. Once I switched though, all consoles switched to vertical black and white stripes that reminded me of a bad ROM on a Mac SE 30 ... And machine was not pingable. From buildsys at redhat.com Fri May 13 11:56:40 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 07:56:40 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050513 changes Message-ID: <200505131156.j4DBueR6026468@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: dump-0.4b40-2 ------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Jindrich Novy 0.4b40-2 - Don't strip binaries to get valid debuginfo eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M6.16 -------------------------- * Mon May 09 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.16 - Add Requires junit >= 3.8.1-3jpp_4fc to JDT. - Add -g to gcj calls. * Thu May 05 2005 Andrew Overholt 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.15 - Rebuild with new gjdoc (rh#152049). * Wed May 04 2005 Ben Konrath - Re-enable jdt.ui/jdt.jar.so and require gcj 4.0.0-2 (rh#151296). eclipse-cdt-1:3.0.0_fc-0.M6.6 ----------------------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Ben Konrath 3.0.0_fc-0.M6.6 - Temporarily disable org.eclipse.cdt.managedbuilder.core_3.0.0/libmngbuildcore.jar.so. eject-2.0.13-15 --------------- * Thu May 12 2005 Than Ngo 2.0.13-15 - add better translation for zh_TW #157519, thanks to Wei-Lun Chao gimp-2:2.2.7-2 -------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Nils Philippsen - use -mmmx/sse/sse2/... only for the relevant source files so that extended instruction sets only get used on suitable CPUs (#157409) * Mon May 09 2005 Nils Philippsen - version 2.2.7, fixes bug in SSE2 assembly for Lighten Only layer mode (#145771) and various other bugs - on x86 and x86_64, use -msse and -msse2 to accomodate newer compilers * Wed Apr 27 2005 Jeremy Katz - 2:2.2.6-2 - silence %post gnome-panel-2.10.1-10 --------------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Mark McLoughlin 2.10.1-10 - Fix "dialogs pop up under panel dialogs" issue (bug #156425) hal-0.5.2-1 ----------- * Thu May 12 2005 David Zeuthen 0.5.2-1 - Update to upstream release 0.5.2 * Wed Apr 27 2005 David Zeuthen 0.5.1-1 - Update to upstream release 0.5.1 * Tue Apr 19 2005 Florian La Roche - exclude usb reqs for mainframe (#154616) hotplug-3:2004_09_23-6 ---------------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Bill Nottingham 3:2004_09_23-6 - fix mistriggering on HWADDRs of sit0, etc (#153669, #157252) htmlview-3.0.0-11 ----------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Warren Togami - 3.0.0-11 - also ignore -remote (#154033) initscripts-8.11-1 ------------------ * Tue May 10 2005 Bill Nottingham 8.11-1 - fix mis-bringup of interfaces due to accidentally matched HWADDR (a.k.a. ONBOOT=no not working) (#153669, #157252) - support automatic relabeling later if rebooted w/o SELinux () - rc.sysinit: fix fixfiles invocation (#157182) - btmp should be 0600 (#156900) - translation updates: fr, bg, ru, mk, pa, es kernel-2.6.11-1.1303_FC4 ------------------------ * Wed May 11 2005 Dave Jones - Add Ingo's patch to detect soft lockups. - Thread exits siliently via __RESTORE_ALL exception for iret. (#154369) * Wed May 11 2005 David Woodhouse - Import post-rc4 audit fixes from git, including ppc syscall auditing * Wed May 11 2005 Dave Jones - Revert NMI watchdog changes. nc-1.78-2 --------- * Wed May 11 2005 David Woodhouse 1.78-2 - Don't ignore POLLHUP and go into an endless loop (#156835) * Mon Apr 11 2005 Radek Vokal 1.78-1 - update from CVS, using glib functions * Thu Mar 31 2005 Radek Vokal 1.77-1 - switching to new OpenBSD version of netcat pciutils-2.1.99.test8-9 ----------------------- * Tue May 10 2005 Bill Nottingham - 2.1.99.test8-9 - fix debuginfo generation perl-PDL-2.4.1-11 ----------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Jose Pedro Oliveira - 2.4.1-11 - Add missing perl(PDL::Graphics::TriD*) provides. (#156482) - Explicitly filter perl(Tk). (#156482) redhat-artwork-0.122-9 ---------------------- * Tue May 10 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-9 - Add new stock volume icons squid-7:2.5.STABLE9-6 --------------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Jay Fenlason 7:2.5.STABLE9-6 - More upstream patches, including a fix for bz#157456 CAN-2005-1519 DNS lookups unreliable on untrusted networks * Tue Apr 26 2005 Jay Fenlason 7:2.5.STABLE9-5 - more upstream patches, including a fix for CVE-1999-0710 cachemgr malicious use system-switch-mail-0.5.25-4 --------------------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Than Ngo 0.5.25-4 - fix location for menu item #157173 usermode-1.80-1 --------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Jindrich Novy 1.80-1 - fix "Unknown error" when password is mistyped in userpasswd (#135500) - add icons to windows for usermode-gtk applications (#155867) - add missing checks for some PAM error codes - fix ungettextized error message - update translations From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 13 12:28:09 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:28:09 +0100 Subject: OOo 1.9.100-1 problems Message-ID: <1115987289.11936.123.camel@localhost> Hi, Any upstream signs for fixes to bugzillas #157296 and #157296? They're both really annoying problems, with the first one being a blocker as the problem described corrupts the file being worked on. TTFN Paul -- "In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable." - Threads, BBC-TV 1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From green at redhat.com Fri May 13 14:51:48 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 07:51:48 -0700 Subject: javac strangeness FC4T3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115995908.4711.14.camel@to-dhcp28.toronto.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 10:27 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > OK, so I would expect javac to gc gcj, but watch: > > javac > Eclipse Java Compiler 0.548, pre-3.1.0 milestone-6, Copyright IBM Corp 2000, > 2005. All rights reserved. This is expected behaviour. The Eclipse compiler has certain advantages over gcj's current bytecode compilation support. For instance, it does recursive compilation of referenced java sources, which many people rely on. The gcj bytecode compiler is currently being rewritten to support missing features, including new Java 1.5 language features (just web search for gcjx) - but it will be some time before it's ready for mainstream usage. The Eclipse compiler has proven to be fast and high quality, and we have to ship in anyways as part of the Eclipse IDE. You can still use "gcj -C" if you really want to use gcj for .java to .class compilation. AG From czar at czarc.net Fri May 13 16:11:24 2005 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:11:24 -0400 Subject: gdm packaging question Message-ID: <200505131211.24317.czar@czarc.net> I have gdm installed and configured (using gdm's gdmsetup) gdm to use the standard greeter rather than the graphical greeter for local logins. After updating the gdm package, I was back to the graphical greeter. Bug or feature? -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Fri May 13 16:15:57 2005 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:15:57 -0400 Subject: strange 1600x1200 display Message-ID: <200505131215.58078.czar@czarc.net> I have a Dell 2000FB (flat panel) display on my system and it is connected to an ATI 9100 adapter via the analog rather than the DVI-D connector. With previous version of FC (even FC4T2), this worked fine with my selection of 1600x1200. However, with FC4T3, the virtical display is fine but the horizontal seems to use a physical size a bit smaller and I end up with a "virtual screen" horizontally (I can see the edges only by using the mouse to "move" the screen). (intended) feature or bug? -- Gene From twaugh at redhat.com Fri May 13 16:23:42 2005 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 17:23:42 +0100 Subject: gdm packaging question In-Reply-To: <200505131211.24317.czar@czarc.net> References: <200505131211.24317.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <20050513162342.GT8706@redhat.com> On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 12:11:24PM -0400, Gene C. wrote: > I have gdm installed and configured (using gdm's gdmsetup) gdm to use the > standard greeter rather than the graphical greeter for local logins. > > After updating the gdm package, I was back to the graphical greeter. I think gdm has always had this annoying behaviour. As far as I can tell, the rationale is that the configuration file format for gdm.conf may change in incompatible ways. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=142035 Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From linuxerwang at gmail.com Fri May 13 16:34:24 2005 From: linuxerwang at gmail.com (Linuxer Wang) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:34:24 -0700 Subject: Weird Problem with Realplayer and Octave under FC4 test 3 Message-ID: <4284D710.1050307@gmail.com> hi, I installed the RealPlayer-10.0.4.750-20050401.i586.rpm and compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-47.fc4.i386.rpm on FC4 test 3 successfully, but when I try to play a rm file, the player doesn't show any vedio, just audio, and no any bug information. FC4 seems will not provide Octave, so I tried to compile it myself. But the the newest source code can't compile. Problem of gcc4? Can anyone help me? Thanks From sheltren at cs.ucsb.edu Fri May 13 17:04:40 2005 From: sheltren at cs.ucsb.edu (Jeff Sheltren) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:04:40 -0700 Subject: syslog stopped logging on x86_64? Message-ID: Ever since updating on the morning of May 10th to the latest development packages, my x86_64 machine has not been logging anything to syslog. syslogd and klogd are both running, there is plenty of free space in /var, and I have not touched syslog.conf for a month. I first noticed this problem under kernel 1287 smp, but it persists under 1290 smp. Is anyone else experiencing this? On two other FC4 boxes (both i386), syslog is running fine. Another possibly related problem is that an 'ls -l' in /var/log was showing lastlog as being 1.2 TB. df reported only ~700MB used in / var (which seems more correct, especially since /var is only 4GB large, making it impossible to have a 1.2TB file on it). I removed the lastlog file and touched a new one. It is now showing up as 5.5 MB... # uname -a Linux hell 2.6.11-1.1290_FC4smp #1 SMP Mon May 9 19:28:09 EDT 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Any ideas? -Jeff From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Fri May 13 17:16:33 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:16:33 +0200 Subject: strange 1600x1200 display In-Reply-To: <200505131215.58078.czar@czarc.net> References: <200505131215.58078.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1116004593.3214.8.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 12:15 -0400, Gene C. wrote: > I have a Dell 2000FB (flat panel) display on my system and it is connected to > an ATI 9100 adapter via the analog rather than the DVI-D connector. > > With previous version of FC (even FC4T2), this worked fine with my selection > of 1600x1200. However, with FC4T3, the virtical display is fine but the > horizontal seems to use a physical size a bit smaller and I end up with a > "virtual screen" horizontally (I can see the edges only by using the mouse to > "move" the screen). > > (intended) feature or bug? I had the same thing on a fresh FC4T3 install at 1600x1200 with an ATI Radeon 9000 card and an IBM P202 21" monitor. First I made a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf then tried system-config-display --reconfig which crashed horribly (no idea why). Then had a look in xorg.conf and removed all the different resolutions so only "1600x1200" was still there. I then restarted X and all was well. Regards, Patrick From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Fri May 13 17:24:42 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:24:42 -0500 Subject: syslog stopped logging on x86_64? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116005082.5937.40.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 10:04 -0700, Jeff Sheltren wrote: > Ever since updating on the morning of May 10th to the latest > development packages, my x86_64 machine has not been logging anything > to syslog. syslogd and klogd are both running, there is plenty of > free space in /var, and I have not touched syslog.conf for a month. > I first noticed this problem under kernel 1287 smp, but it persists > under 1290 smp. > > Is anyone else experiencing this? On two other FC4 boxes (both > i386), syslog is running fine. > > Another possibly related problem is that an 'ls -l' in /var/log was > showing lastlog as being 1.2 TB. df reported only ~700MB used in / > var (which seems more correct, especially since /var is only 4GB > large, making it impossible to have a 1.2TB file on it). I removed > the lastlog file and touched a new one. It is now showing up as 5.5 > MB... > > # uname -a > Linux hell 2.6.11-1.1290_FC4smp #1 SMP Mon May 9 19:28:09 EDT 2005 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Any ideas? > > -Jeff > I think Alex Dalloz answered this just a few minutes ago on the FC list: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=110968943015848&w=2 Thomas From jvdias at redhat.com Fri May 13 17:28:07 2005 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:28:07 -0400 Subject: syslog stopped logging on x86_64? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116005287.2709.17.camel@silly> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 13:04, Jeff Sheltren wrote: > Ever since updating on the morning of May 10th to the latest > development packages, my x86_64 machine has not been logging anything > to syslog. syslogd and klogd are both running, there is plenty of > free space in /var, and I have not touched syslog.conf for a month. > I first noticed this problem under kernel 1287 smp, but it persists > under 1290 smp. > > Is anyone else experiencing this? On two other FC4 boxes (both > i386), syslog is running fine. > > Another possibly related problem is that an 'ls -l' in /var/log was > showing lastlog as being 1.2 TB. df reported only ~700MB used in / > var (which seems more correct, especially since /var is only 4GB > large, making it impossible to have a 1.2TB file on it). I removed > the lastlog file and touched a new one. It is now showing up as 5.5 > MB... > > # uname -a > Linux hell 2.6.11-1.1290_FC4smp #1 SMP Mon May 9 19:28:09 EDT 2005 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Any ideas? > > -Jeff Please raise a sysklogd bugzilla on this - there have been no reports of this kind before. syslogd has nothing to do with /var/log/lastlog - that's a utmp/wtmp like login log . Please raise a bug against shadow-utils for the incorrect size - I'm getting incorrect sizes for this file on i386 too: $ ls -l lastlog -r-------- 1 root root 19136220 May 13 11:15 lastlog $ du -ks lastlog 33 lastlog Please gather an strace when you can reproduce the syslogd problem: # strace -p `pgrep syslogd` >/tmp/syslogd.strace.log 2>&1 # logger hello # pkill strace And append the /tmp/syslogd.strace.log to the bug report. Does the problem persist after clearing out /var/log/messages ? ie. back up /var/log/messages if you want to save it, and do: # echo '' > /var/log/messages # service syslog restart Thank You, Jason Vas Dias. From jamatos at fc.up.pt Fri May 13 17:29:00 2005 From: jamatos at fc.up.pt (Jose' Matos) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:29:00 +0100 Subject: Weird Problem with Realplayer and Octave under FC4 test 3 In-Reply-To: <4284D710.1050307@gmail.com> References: <4284D710.1050307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200505131829.00579.jamatos@fc.up.pt> On Friday 13 May 2005 17:34, Linuxer Wang wrote: > FC4 seems will not provide Octave, so I tried to compile it myself. But > the the newest source code can't compile. Problem of gcc4? octave is not in core anymore, look for it is in extras, it is there. yum is your friend. :-) > Can anyone help me? > Thanks -- Jos? Ab?lio From johnp at redhat.com Fri May 13 17:32:48 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:32:48 -0400 Subject: Weird Problem with Realplayer and Octave under FC4 test 3 In-Reply-To: <4284D710.1050307@gmail.com> References: <4284D710.1050307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116005569.10993.0.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 09:34 -0700, Linuxer Wang wrote: > hi, > > I installed the RealPlayer-10.0.4.750-20050401.i586.rpm and > compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-47.fc4.i386.rpm on FC4 test 3 successfully, > but when I try to play a rm file, the player doesn't show any vedio, > just audio, and no any bug information. > > FC4 seems will not provide Octave, so I tried to compile it myself. But > the the newest source code can't compile. Problem of gcc4? > > Can anyone help me? > Thanks The newer versions of Real should be compiled for the newer libstdc++. -- John (J5) Palmieri Associate Software Engineer Desktop Group Red Hat, Inc. Blog: http://martianrock.com From michal at harddata.com Fri May 13 17:48:22 2005 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:48:22 -0600 Subject: syslog stopped logging on x86_64? In-Reply-To: <1116005082.5937.40.camel@ml110.camerontech.com>; from thomas.cameron@camerontech.com on Fri, May 13, 2005 at 12:24:42PM -0500 References: <1116005082.5937.40.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> Message-ID: <20050513114822.A12558@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 12:24:42PM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 10:04 -0700, Jeff Sheltren wrote: > > Ever since updating on the morning of May 10th to the latest > > development packages, my x86_64 machine has not been logging anything > > to syslog. > > I think Alex Dalloz answered this just a few minutes ago on the FC list: > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=110968943015848&w=2 Unless something went funny this sounds bogus. /var/log/lastlog is a sparse file and 'ls -sh /var/log/lastlog' will show you how much of a disk space it really takes. There are ways to "fill it up" but this should happen only if you worked on that. Michal From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri May 13 17:57:59 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:57:59 -0400 Subject: strange 1600x1200 display In-Reply-To: <200505131215.58078.czar@czarc.net> References: <200505131215.58078.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <604aa791050513105734d58ae@mail.gmail.com> On 5/13/05, Gene C. wrote: > I have a Dell 2000FB (flat panel) display on my system and it is connected to > an ATI 9100 adapter via the analog rather than the DVI-D connector. > > With previous version of FC (even FC4T2), this worked fine with my selection > of 1600x1200. However, with FC4T3, the virtical display is fine but the > horizontal seems to use a physical size a bit smaller and I end up with a > "virtual screen" horizontally (I can see the edges only by using the mouse to its a problem with how the X configuration tools are building the mode list. 1680x1050 is sorted as smaller than 1600x1200. X server on start up parses the mode list and see the 1680x1050 as the largest mode and sets the virtual resolution to that mode. config tools sort the modes by area... X seems to sort the modes by width then height. As a result X sees 1680x1050 as the largest mode in the list. The config tool functions in rhpl need to be corrected to do a mode sort the same way X sorts the mode list. So that when you ask for 1600x1200 the 1680x1050 mode will not be placed in the config file. I've already filed this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157596 -jef From sheltren at cs.ucsb.edu Fri May 13 18:09:22 2005 From: sheltren at cs.ucsb.edu (Jeff Sheltren) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:09:22 -0700 Subject: syslog stopped logging on x86_64? In-Reply-To: <1116005287.2709.17.camel@silly> References: <1116005287.2709.17.camel@silly> Message-ID: On May 13, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Jason Vas Dias wrote: > > Please raise a sysklogd bugzilla on this - there have been no > reports of this kind before. > > syslogd has nothing to do with /var/log/lastlog - that's > a utmp/wtmp like login log . Please raise a bug against > shadow-utils for the incorrect size - I'm getting incorrect > sizes for this file on i386 too: > $ ls -l lastlog > -r-------- 1 root root 19136220 May 13 11:15 lastlog > $ du -ks lastlog > 33 lastlog > > Please gather an strace when you can reproduce the syslogd > problem: > > # strace -p `pgrep syslogd` >/tmp/syslogd.strace.log 2>&1 > # logger hello > # pkill strace > > And append the /tmp/syslogd.strace.log to the bug report. > > Does the problem persist after clearing out /var/log/messages ? > ie. back up /var/log/messages if you want to save it, and do: > # echo '' > /var/log/messages > # service syslog restart > > Thank You, > Jason Vas Dias. > Hi Jason, thanks. Before I enter a bug report, I have noticed an error message on the console when starting syslogd, which is also shown when starting syslogd with -d: # syslogd -d Allocated parts table for 1024 file descriptors. Starting. Called logerr, msg: network logging disabled (syslog/udp service unknown). logmsg: syslog.err<43>, flags 4, from hell, msg syslogd: network logging disabled (syslog/udp service unknown). Called fprintlog, logging to CONSOLE /dev/console Called logerr, msg: see syslogd(8) for details of whether and how to enable it. logmsg: syslog.err<43>, flags 4, from hell, msg syslogd: see syslogd (8) for details of whether and how to enable it. Called fprintlog, logging to CONSOLE /dev/console Debugging disabled, SIGUSR1 to turn on debugging. The network logging message is still there even after I removed all the remote logging stuff from syslog.conf. There is a syslog entry in /etc/services, so I'm not sure what else could be causing that error message. -Jeff From kewley at gps.caltech.edu Fri May 13 18:41:53 2005 From: kewley at gps.caltech.edu (David Kewley) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:41:53 -0700 Subject: anaconda crash on Dell Precision 370 Message-ID: <200505131141.53333.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> Yesterday I reported a problem installing FC4t3 on the subject machine. I've reproduced this problem multiple times on this machine, both on FC4t3 *and* on FC3. I now have a keyboard with working F3 and F4 keys :) so can report what is on those virtual terminals at crash time. Here is a report for the crash toward the end of installing FC4t3. Virtual terminal 4 is the only one that shows something interesting. I only see 29 lines of text; the rest have scrolled off the top of the screen. The visible lines show multiple instances of this line pair: <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>AAAAAAA(BBBB)->CCCCCCC(4096) where the AAAA and CCCC are hex and the BBBB is decimal less than 4096. These three numeric strings vary among the many instances of those paired lines. Toward the top of the screen (remember, only 29 lines are visible), I see this line: <6>anaconca[570]: segfault at ffffffffc482f918 rip 00002aaaadcca001 rsp 00007ffffff9b3c8 error 6 This <6> line appears after one visible <4> line pair, and twelve of the <4> line pairs follow it. At the bottom of the screen is this line: <6>anaconda[557]: trap invalid operand rip:2aaaae204000 rsp:7ffffff9ce08 error:0 Is this helpful for tracking down the problem? I'll next trigger the FC3 installation fault and report what I see. David From czar at czarc.net Fri May 13 18:47:12 2005 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:47:12 -0400 Subject: strange 1600x1200 display In-Reply-To: <604aa791050513105734d58ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505131215.58078.czar@czarc.net> <604aa791050513105734d58ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200505131447.12829.czar@czarc.net> On Friday 13 May 2005 13:57, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/13/05, Gene C. wrote: > > I have a Dell 2000FB (flat panel) display on my system and it is > > connected to an ATI 9100 adapter via the analog rather than the DVI-D > > connector. > > > > With previous version of FC (even FC4T2), this worked fine with my > > selection of 1600x1200. However, with FC4T3, the virtical display is > > fine but the horizontal seems to use a physical size a bit smaller and I > > end up with a "virtual screen" horizontally (I can see the edges only by > > using the mouse to > > its a problem with how the X configuration tools are building the mode > list. 1680x1050 is sorted as smaller than 1600x1200. X server on start up > parses the mode list and see the 1680x1050 as the largest mode and sets the > virtual resolution to that mode. > > config tools sort the modes by area... X seems to sort the modes by > width then height. > As a result X sees 1680x1050 as the largest mode in the list. The > config tool functions in rhpl need to be corrected to do a mode sort > the same way X sorts the mode list. So that when you ask for 1600x1200 > the 1680x1050 mode will not be placed in the config file. > > I've already filed this > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157596 Thanks. My temporary way of getting around this is to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and remove the "1680x1050" entry ... everything looks OK then. I am glad to see 1680x1050 supported (for my wide screen laptop) but the aspect ratio for 1600x1200 and 1680x1050 are very different. The "proper" way to fix this is to only list those entries which correspond with the aspect ratio of the display/monitor you have but ... that might be very difficult to do on a reliable basis. Gene -- From mk1970 at gmail.com Fri May 13 18:50:44 2005 From: mk1970 at gmail.com (M K) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 21:50:44 +0300 Subject: FC4 test 3 failure during installation Message-ID: <3bb3a4d00505131150a2904c8@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I downloaded the FC4T3 DVD image and burned it to a DVD-RW disk. I started the installation and selected "minimal installation". The installation got stuck when a message "An error occured unmounting the CD. Please make sure you'r e not accessing /mnt/source from the shell on tty2 and then click OK to retry" popped up. No matter what I do I can't continue. Please note that I've not done anything on the virtual console. Any ideas? MK From linuxerwang at gmail.com Fri May 13 18:57:52 2005 From: linuxerwang at gmail.com (Linuxer Wang) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:57:52 -0700 Subject: Weird Problem with Realplayer and Octave under FC4 test 3 In-Reply-To: <200505131829.00579.jamatos@fc.up.pt> References: <4284D710.1050307@gmail.com> <200505131829.00579.jamatos@fc.up.pt> Message-ID: <4284F8B0.1090403@gmail.com> Thank you for you help, but wait a minute, I viewed the extras, but where is the octave? And seems no 3.92 directory in extras, so how to yum them? Jose' Matos wrote: >On Friday 13 May 2005 17:34, Linuxer Wang wrote: > > >>FC4 seems will not provide Octave, so I tried to compile it myself. But >>the the newest source code can't compile. Problem of gcc4? >> >> > > octave is not in core anymore, look for it is in extras, it is there. > > yum is your friend. :-) > > > >>Can anyone help me? >>Thanks >> >> > > > From kewley at gps.caltech.edu Fri May 13 18:57:31 2005 From: kewley at gps.caltech.edu (David Kewley) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:57:31 -0700 Subject: anaconda crash on Dell Precision 370 In-Reply-To: <200505131141.53333.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> References: <200505131141.53333.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> Message-ID: <200505131157.31612.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> David Kewley wrote on Friday 13 May 2005 11:41: > Yesterday I reported a problem installing FC4t3 on the subject machine. > I've reproduced this problem multiple times on this machine, both on FC4t3 > *and* on FC3. I now have a keyboard with working F3 and F4 keys :) so can > report what is on those virtual terminals at crash time. > > Here is a report for the crash toward the end of installing FC4t3. And here now is a report for the crash toward the end of installing FC3. Overall the errors are somewhat similar, but perhaps the differences may provide a clue. There are only two of the <4> line pairs with error -3. There is one similar <4> line pair, but with error -5. There are many lines like this: <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 8790 (the block number varies). There are *two* anaconda segfault lines (different PIDs), one with error 7 and the other with error 14. I'll leave out the hex numbers if that's OK, since I'm transcribing them by hand, changing between the two video inputs on my monitor, with a short-term realmemory buffer in between. :) I'm off to run memtest86 on this brand-new machine. In the meantime, I'd welcome any suggestions. David From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri May 13 19:21:14 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:21:14 -0400 Subject: strange 1600x1200 display In-Reply-To: <200505131447.12829.czar@czarc.net> References: <200505131215.58078.czar@czarc.net> <604aa791050513105734d58ae@mail.gmail.com> <200505131447.12829.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910505131221f98c668@mail.gmail.com> On 5/13/05, Gene C. wrote: > The "proper" way to fix this is to only list those entries which correspond > with the aspect ratio of the display/monitor you have but ... that might be > very difficult to do on a reliable basis. i don't think 'proper' aspect ratio for your monitor matters for this problem. If your monitor can do 1680x1050 safely then why not have it as a selectable option in the config tool? Is it damaging to the monitor to run the 1680x1050 mode? If not.. then it should stay in the list the config tools present to you as a selectable option. Maybe someone really likes the letter box feel of 1680x1050 on a standard monitor...who are we to say thats bad as long as the monitor can do it? The problem you and I experience isnt that the 1680 mode is selectable.. the problem is the config tool is sorting the accessible modes differently than how X sorts the modes when it starts up. The config tools that create the xorg.conf file do not explicitly set the virtual resolution and do not explicitly set the default mode. Unless told otherwise, X assumes that the virtual resolution is the "largest" mode in the mode list and will set the virtual display size accordingly. Unless told otherwise X will use the first mode in the mode list as the physical resolution. As long as the first mode in the list is the one you want X to start in and is the "largest" mode in the list..everything works as expected. A compromise feature, would be to have the config tool only write modes to the xorg.conf file with the same aspect ratio as the mode you originally selected in the dialog. That way when i run system-config-display I still see the 1680x1050 mode in the pull down list of resolution and can select it if i want. But if i select the 1600x1200 resolution, only similar aspect ratios are placed in the config file. That way.. when i alt+ctrl-plus and alt-ctrl-minus i only flip through resolutions with the same aspect ratio. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri May 13 19:41:47 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:41:47 -0400 Subject: Weird Problem with Realplayer and Octave under FC4 test 3 In-Reply-To: <4284F8B0.1090403@gmail.com> References: <4284D710.1050307@gmail.com> <200505131829.00579.jamatos@fc.up.pt> <4284F8B0.1090403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa791050513124132fb348@mail.gmail.com> On 5/13/05, Linuxer Wang wrote: > Thank you for you help, but wait a minute, I viewed the extras, but > where is the octave? > And seems no 3.92 directory in extras, so how to yum them? For test releases Core updates come from the Core development tree. For test releases Extras similarly comes from Extras development tree. there should be a fedora-extras-devel.repo file as part of your fedora-release package with an enabled definition for [extras-development]. If you have the correct fedora-release package your yum should already see the correct extras tree, unless you have done some hand-configuration If you are running test3 rpm -q fedora-release should either return fedora-release-3.92-1 and rpm -ql fedora-release output should include /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-devel.repo ---> Updates for Core and /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras-devel.repo ---> Extras Development octave isn't extras-devel yet... discussion in fedora-extras-list over the past week indicate its being worked on. -jef From michal at harddata.com Fri May 13 19:41:49 2005 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:41:49 -0600 Subject: syslog stopped logging on x86_64? In-Reply-To: ; from sheltren@cs.ucsb.edu on Fri, May 13, 2005 at 11:09:22AM -0700 References: <1116005287.2709.17.camel@silly> Message-ID: <20050513134149.B15100@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 11:09:22AM -0700, Jeff Sheltren wrote: > > On May 13, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Jason Vas Dias wrote: > > > > I'm getting incorrect > > sizes for this file on i386 too: No, you are not. > > Before I enter a bug report, I have noticed an > error message on the console when starting syslogd, which is also > shown when starting syslogd with -d: > > # syslogd -d > Allocated parts table for 1024 file descriptors. > Starting. > Called logerr, msg: network logging disabled (syslog/udp service > unknown). And here is a problem although what is an underlying reason is not clear from the above. Do you have something like 'syslog 514/udp' entry in /etc/services? Or this could be something else. As for 'ls' this is not a bug but a documented property. If you want to see a size of a file in terms of disk blocks then you are not using '-l' flag which means something different. For "dense" files these two numbers are related but for "sparse" this is really not the case. Michal From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Fri May 13 20:02:11 2005 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 21:02:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: selinux and samba problem ? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050513200211.21433.qmail@web86509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> having read man samba_selinux and set it up it all works as expected. --- Daniel J Walsh wrote: > DAVID BENTLEY wrote: > > >To be able to acces shares on a linux box running > >FC4T3 > >it would seem that you have to disable selinux > >protection > >for both SMBD and NMBD for things to work. > > > >Is this what is intended or is this a bug. > > > > > > > No that is not intended and might be a bug or a > setup problem. What is > the share and what is its file context? > > Have you executed a man samba_selinux to make sure > it is setup correctly. > > Dan > > -- > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From rstrode at redhat.com Fri May 13 20:05:13 2005 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:05:13 -0400 Subject: gdm packaging question In-Reply-To: <20050513162342.GT8706@redhat.com> References: <200505131211.24317.czar@czarc.net> <20050513162342.GT8706@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116014713.1051.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > I think gdm has always had this annoying behaviour. Not always, but for a long time. > As far as I can tell, the rationale is that the > configuration file format for gdm.conf > may change in incompatible ways. Yea. I doubt it's a problem anymore actually. The new upstream maintainer of gdm said that he'll be doing mostly bug maintenance. I'll probably change the upgrade behavior (but not before fc4). --Ray From ckurecka at gmail.com Fri May 13 20:46:39 2005 From: ckurecka at gmail.com (Chris Kurecka) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:46:39 -0400 Subject: No sound FC4T3 SB Audigy 2 Message-ID: <8b148baa050513134612fe3095@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, I've never had any issues getting sound working with Fedora before, and test1 and test2 of FC4 were fine, but with test3 my card is detected and I can't get any sound out of it. The emu10k1 module is loaded properly and I used alsamixer to make the volume 100%, but I'm not sure what to do beyond that. I tried using alsaconf (I found an RPM somewhere) also, but that didn't change anything. I also have FC3, Suse 9.3 and Windows installed, and they all have proper sound playback, so it's not the card. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'll file a bug if it's not already a known/fixed issue. Thanks. Chris Kurecka From chandana at desilva.id.au Fri May 13 20:48:34 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 06:48:34 +1000 Subject: Cisco VPN problem Message-ID: <1116017314.4970.9.camel@chandana.dis> Hello All, I am having a problem running the Cisco VPN client on FC 3.92. The message I get is : vpnclient: error while loading shared libraries: /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied I think this is a SELinux problem. I am new to SELinux and am not sure how to get round this. Please help. Thanks Chandana From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri May 13 20:56:53 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:56:53 -0400 Subject: gdm packaging question In-Reply-To: <200505131211.24317.czar@czarc.net> References: <200505131211.24317.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <604aa791050513135657c98f0b@mail.gmail.com> On 5/13/05, Gene C. wrote: > I have gdm installed and configured (using gdm's gdmsetup) gdm to use the > standard greeter rather than the graphical greeter for local logins. > > After updating the gdm package, I was back to the graphical greeter. > > Bug or feature? a little of both. its a 'feature' that packages can be built to either keep modified configs in place or to back up the modified configs and give you the new default config file. generation of .rpmnew files versus .rpmsave files. .rpmnew files are the default behavior for config files.. so anytime you see a package creating a .rpmsave file like gdm does.. its at the explicit direction of the packager of the package and is mostly likely done as a work-around to make sure you have a working configfile for components that are known to have unstable config file formats. Clearly anytime a .rpmsave file is being generated there was/is a problem that the packager is trying to help you avoid running into. Generally speaking, the biggest problem I have with the .rpmnew/.rpmsave file generation feature.. is the seeming lack of notification I get when either of these files are created. I'd like Core to have a 'default' way for me to find all the rpmnew and rpmsave files without me having to resort to running a full filesystem search through the system directories. Now that slocate is off by default, I can't rely on that system facility to be available. -jef From linuxerwang at gmail.com Fri May 13 21:20:43 2005 From: linuxerwang at gmail.com (Linuxer Wang) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:20:43 -0700 Subject: No sound FC4T3 SB Audigy 2 In-Reply-To: <8b148baa050513134612fe3095@mail.gmail.com> References: <8b148baa050513134612fe3095@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42851A2B.5010003@gmail.com> Have a try with OSS. Maybe it will help you. Chris Kurecka wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I've never had any issues getting sound working with Fedora before, >and test1 and test2 of FC4 were fine, but with test3 my card is >detected and I can't get any sound out of it. The emu10k1 module is >loaded properly and I used alsamixer to make the volume 100%, but I'm >not sure what to do beyond that. I tried using alsaconf (I found an >RPM somewhere) also, but that didn't change anything. I also have >FC3, Suse 9.3 and Windows installed, and they all have proper sound >playback, so it's not the card. Any help or suggestions would be >greatly appreciated. I'll file a bug if it's not already a >known/fixed issue. Thanks. > >Chris Kurecka > > > From sheltren at cs.ucsb.edu Fri May 13 21:20:45 2005 From: sheltren at cs.ucsb.edu (Jeff Sheltren) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:20:45 -0700 Subject: syslog stopped logging on x86_64? In-Reply-To: <20050513134149.B15100@mail.harddata.com> References: <1116005287.2709.17.camel@silly> <20050513134149.B15100@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: On May 13, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 11:09:22AM -0700, Jeff Sheltren wrote: > >> >> On May 13, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Jason Vas Dias wrote: >> >>> >>> I'm getting incorrect >>> sizes for this file on i386 too: >>> > > No, you are not. > > >> >> Before I enter a bug report, I have noticed an >> error message on the console when starting syslogd, which is also >> shown when starting syslogd with -d: >> >> # syslogd -d >> Allocated parts table for 1024 file descriptors. >> Starting. >> Called logerr, msg: network logging disabled (syslog/udp service >> unknown). >> > > And here is a problem although what is an underlying reason is not > clear from the above. Do you have something like 'syslog 514/udp' > entry in /etc/services? Or this could be something else. > > As for 'ls' this is not a bug but a documented property. If you > want to see a size of a file in terms of disk blocks then you are > not using '-l' flag which means something different. For "dense" > files these two numbers are related but for "sparse" this is really > not the case. > > Michal > Hi Michal, thanks for the response. Well, the lastlog thing is apparently unrelated anyway, but I'm still having the syslog problems. Yes, I have checked in /etc/services and the syslog entry is there. -Jeff From fedora at nodata.co.uk Fri May 13 21:33:26 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 23:33:26 +0200 Subject: gdm packaging question In-Reply-To: <604aa791050513135657c98f0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505131211.24317.czar@czarc.net> <604aa791050513135657c98f0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116020006.3008.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 16:56 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Now that slocate is off by default, I > can't rely on that system facility to be available. Don't remind me! ARGH! From alan at redhat.com Fri May 13 21:35:37 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 17:35:37 -0400 Subject: gdm packaging question In-Reply-To: <1116020006.3008.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200505131211.24317.czar@czarc.net> <604aa791050513135657c98f0b@mail.gmail.com> <1116020006.3008.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050513213537.GB30402@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 11:33:26PM +0200, nodata wrote: > On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 16:56 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > Now that slocate is off by default, I > > can't rely on that system facility to be available. > > Don't remind me! ARGH! If you need it for a package/feature then chkconfig it on in your rpm install script. That way at least some users won't have a totally broken setup by default 8) From louisg00 at bellsouth.net Fri May 13 22:29:55 2005 From: louisg00 at bellsouth.net (Louis Garcia) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:29:55 -0400 Subject: Network so slow Message-ID: <1116023395.9085.3.camel@tiger> I am having the same problem I have with FC3. Firefox is so slow for resolving names. I believe it's because the the ipv6 module is loaded or is it a dns lookup issue? How do I prevent the ipv6 module from loading? -Louis From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Fri May 13 22:35:08 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 17:35:08 -0500 Subject: Network so slow In-Reply-To: <1116023395.9085.3.camel@tiger> References: <1116023395.9085.3.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <1116023708.5937.49.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 18:29 -0400, Louis Garcia wrote: > I am having the same problem I have with FC3. Firefox is so slow for > resolving names. I believe it's because the the ipv6 module is loaded or > is it a dns lookup issue? How do I prevent the ipv6 module from loading? > > -Louis > add to /etc/modprobe.conf: alias net-pf-10 off alias ipv6 off Thomas From kewley at gps.caltech.edu Fri May 13 23:29:09 2005 From: kewley at gps.caltech.edu (David Kewley) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:29:09 -0700 Subject: anaconda crash on Dell Precision 370 In-Reply-To: <200505131157.31612.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> References: <200505131141.53333.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> <200505131157.31612.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> Message-ID: <200505131629.09482.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> I used netcat (nc) to send log output from the installing system to another system. Attached is the log dump from midway through the install until the crash. Midway through the log I set logging to level 9. This worked, but is there an easy way to have anaconda send its log output over the net to another host? I see a few things that should be cleaned up. There are several avc denied errors, and several complaints that anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl. The start of the crash is roughtly the first "<3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17761". There is an avc denied error for ldconfig immediately prior to that. This is a Nocona P4 machine, installing x86_64 FC4t3. I'm booting with a burned CD of boot.iso, and using NFS for the installation files. The NFS source directory is a loopback-mounted image of the FC4t3 DVD, which passed the SHA1SUM test. What's this garbage about "<4>Error -3 while decompressing!"? David -------------- next part -------------- <4>program anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO <4>program anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO <4>program anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO <6>kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds <6>EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. <6>SELinux: initialized (dev dm-0, type ext3), uses xattr <6>kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds <6>EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal <6>EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. <6>SELinux: initialized (dev sda1, type ext3), uses xattr <4>program anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO <4>program anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO <4>program anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO <4>program anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO <4>program anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO <6>Adding 2031608k swap on /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01. Priority:-1 extents:1 <6>usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 2 <4>program anaconda is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO <6>kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds <6>EXT3 FS on dm-0, internal journal <6>EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. <6>SELinux: initialized (dev dm-0, type ext3), uses xattr <6>kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds <6>EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal <6>EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. <6>SELinux: initialized (dev sda1, type ext3), uses xattr <3>audit(1116033649.581:0): avc: denied { transition } for path=/usr/sbin/libgcc_post_upgrade dev=dm-0 ino=17072409 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:unconfined_t tclass=process <6>libgcc_post_upg[747]: segfault at ffffffffffffffd0 rip 00000000004004d3 rsp 00007fffffddbd18 error 6 <3>audit(1116033649.671:0): avc: denied { relabelto } for name=.bash_logout dev=dm-0 ino=7995396 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=root:object_r:user_home_t tclass=file <3>audit(1116033649.854:0): avc: denied { relabelto } for name=root dev=dm-0 ino=7995393 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=root:object_r:user_home_dir_t tclass=dir <3>audit(1116033683.738:0): avc: denied { use } for path=pipe:[19482] dev=pipefs ino=19482 scontext=system_u:system_r:depmod_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tclass=fd <3>audit(1116033683.738:0): avc: denied { read } for path=pipe:[19482] dev=pipefs ino=19482 scontext=system_u:system_r:depmod_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tclass=fifo_file <3>audit(1116033683.738:0): avc: denied { write } for path=/dev/null dev=tmpfs ino=519 scontext=system_u:system_r:depmod_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:tmpfs_t tclass=chr_file <3>audit(1116033683.738:0): avc: denied { read write } for path=/root/install.log dev=dm-0 ino=7995394 scontext=system_u:system_r:depmod_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=file <3>audit(1116033683.738:0): avc: denied { search } for name=/ dev=dm-0 ino=2 scontext=system_u:system_r:depmod_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=dir <3>audit(1116033683.739:0): avc: denied { search } for name=tmp dev=dm-0 ino=32997377 scontext=system_u:system_r:depmod_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:tmp_t tclass=dir <3>audit(1116033683.739:0): avc: denied { search } for name=mnt dev=dm-0 ino=37781505 scontext=system_u:system_r:depmod_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:mnt_t tclass=dir <6>SysRq : Changing Loglevel <4>Loglevel set to 9 <3>audit(1116033700.485:0): avc: granted { load_policy } for scontext=system_u:system_r:unconfined_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t tclass=security <6>security: 3 users, 6 roles, 757 types, 88 bools <6>security: 55 classes, 152595 rules <3>audit(1116033705.928:0): avc: denied { transition } for path=/sbin/ldconfig dev=dm-0 ino=32866310 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:unconfined_t tclass=process <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17761 <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17761 <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17762 <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17762 <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17763 <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17763 <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17764 <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17764 <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff880107ee(1099)->ffff81003a854000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88010c39(1471)->ffff81003a857000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff880135f0(790)->ffff81003a859000(4096) <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17764 <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17766 <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800cde5(1381)->ffff81003a85b000(4096) <4>Error -5 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800de1f(1264)->ffff81003a838000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800bfb4(1644)->ffff81003a839000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800d254(1762)->ffff81003a83d000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800d936(1545)->ffff81003a83e000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800f654(1769)->ffff81000dc08000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff880104b5(1816)->ffff81000dc09000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88010bcd(1614)->ffff81000dc0a000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff880129fc(1720)->ffff81003d2e5000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88013690(1695)->ffff81003d2e6000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8801035f(1159)->ffff81000dc0b000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff880113ee(1541)->ffff81000e620000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800c944(1163)->ffff81001ccd2000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800d50c(1851)->ffff81001a2a6000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800e82d(1725)->ffff81001a2a7000(4096) <4>printk: 31 messages suppressed. <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17746 <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 17746 <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800c2a8(1469)->ffff81000edfe000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8801060a(1332)->ffff81000edff000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88012478(1608)->ffff81000ee00000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8801109b(1596)->ffff81000ede7000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff880116d7(1219)->ffff81000ede8000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88011b9a(1160)->ffff81001ab98000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88012022(1713)->ffff81000ed3a000(4096) <4>printk: 20 messages suppressed. <3>Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block 8907 <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff880108cb(2426)->ffff81000572e000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88011245(2464)->ffff810005730000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88011be5(2393)->ffff810005734000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8801253e(2421)->ffff810005735000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800c81d(2424)->ffff81000571b000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800d195(2320)->ffff81000571e000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800cc99(2148)->ffff81000571f000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88010ab5(2146)->ffff810005720000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88011317(2238)->ffff81000571c000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88011bd5(2508)->ffff810005721000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff880125a1(2481)->ffff810005723000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88012f52(2109)->ffff810005724000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88010059(2508)->ffff810005725000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88010a25(2425)->ffff810005727000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8801139e(2371)->ffff810005729000(4096) <6>anaconda[571]: segfault at ffffffffc482f898 rip 00002aaaadcca001 rsp 00007fffffea61c8 error 6 <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff88010ea3(2111)->ffff81000945b000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff880131dd(2359)->ffff81001df65000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800c359(2391)->ffff81001dffe000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800ccb0(1934)->ffff81000942c000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800d43e(1822)->ffff81001de49000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800db5c(1328)->ffff810009417000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800e08c(1760)->ffff810009410000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800e76c(968)->ffff81000945c000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800eb34(1991)->ffff81001df90000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800f2fb(1177)->ffff810009414000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800f794(944)->ffff810009432000(4096) <4>Error -3 while decompressing! <4>ffffffff8800c3d0(1686)->ffff81001df9a000(4096) <6>anaconda[557] trap invalid operand rip:2aaaae204000 rsp:7fffffea7c08 error:0 From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Sat May 14 00:40:35 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 17:40:35 -0700 Subject: FC4T3 Report, Dell Latitude D800 Message-ID: <1116031235.7378.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Flawless install. Am I the only one that has to disable SELINUX to get the closed source NVIDIA driver to install correctly? Sean From dcasey at the-caseys.com Sat May 14 01:26:55 2005 From: dcasey at the-caseys.com (Don Casey) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 21:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Missing Dependencies Message-ID: <54935.192.168.179.144.1116034015.squirrel@192.168.179.1> Has anyone resolved the issue of these missing dependencies? [root at xblade ~]# yum update Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 extras-development 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 985 kB 00:06 developmen: ################################################## 3599/3599 Added 3599 new packages, deleted 0 old in 14.19 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 280 kB 00:23 http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/extras/development/i386/repodata/primary.xml.gz: [Errno 4] Socket Error: timed out Trying other mirror. primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 344 kB 00:02 extras-dev: ################################################## 1010/1010 Added 1010 new packages, deleted 0 old in 4.50 seconds Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Downloading header for gnbd-kernel to pack into transaction set. gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-2005 100% |=========================| 2.7 kB 00:00 ---> Package gnbd-kernel.i686 0:2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.19 set to be installed ---> Downloading header for dlm-kernel to pack into transaction set. dlm-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050 100% |=========================| 3.3 kB 00:00 ---> Package dlm-kernel.i686 0:2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.16 set to be installed ---> Downloading header for GFS-kernel to pack into transaction set. GFS-kernel-2.6.11.5-20050 100% |=========================| 4.0 kB 00:00 ---> Package GFS-kernel.i686 0:2.6.11.5-20050505.133825.FC4.6 set to be installed ---> Downloading header for cman-kernel to pack into transaction set. cman-kernel-2.6.11.3-2005 100% |=========================| 3.3 kB 00:00 ---> Package cman-kernel.i686 0:2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.14 set to be installed --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 for package: dlm-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution filelists.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 2.7 MB 00:19 developmen: ################################################## 3599/3599 Added 3599 new packages, deleted 0 old in 22.59 seconds filelists.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 833 kB 00:05 extras-dev: ################################################## 1010/1010 Added 1010 new packages, deleted 0 old in 6.39 seconds --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 for package: cman-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 for package: gnbd-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 for package: GFS-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package dlm-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package cman-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package gnbd-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package GFS-kernel I know I can get around them by using: [root at xblade ~]# yum --exclude=dlm-kernel --exclude=cman-kernal --exclude=gnbd-kernel --exclude=GFS-kernel update But this is getting old, having to do this every time I want to update. I have to give kudos to everyone supplying packages so far, as I still have GPG check enabled and have not found a package yet missing the sig. Thanx, Don From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat May 14 02:04:56 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 22:04:56 -0400 Subject: Missing Dependencies In-Reply-To: <54935.192.168.179.144.1116034015.squirrel@192.168.179.1> References: <54935.192.168.179.144.1116034015.squirrel@192.168.179.1> Message-ID: <604aa79105051319042f56e930@mail.gmail.com> On 5/13/05, Don Casey wrote: > But this is getting old, having to do this every time I want to update. You're just going to have to grit your teeth and bare it. Everytime there is a kernel update the kernel module packages in Core will most likely be out of sync by a day because a kernel package rebuild does not automatically trigger a rebuild of the *-kernel packages. With the rawhide tree's nearly daily updates and rolling release nature this problem is magnified. If you update daily and keep the older kernels installed you will see this problem less frequently because you'll be able to fill the one day out of sync deps on the *-kernel packages. -jef From dsavage at peaknet.net Sat May 14 02:15:56 2005 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 21:15:56 -0500 Subject: Missing Dependencies In-Reply-To: <54935.192.168.179.144.1116034015.squirrel@192.168.179.1> References: <54935.192.168.179.144.1116034015.squirrel@192.168.179.1> Message-ID: <1116036956.16890.8.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 21:26 -0400, Don Casey wrote: > Has anyone resolved the issue of these missing dependencies? > [snip] > I know I can get around them by using: > > [root at xblade ~]# yum --exclude=dlm-kernel --exclude=cman-kernal > --exclude=gnbd-kernel --exclude=GFS-kernel update > > But this is getting old, having to do this every time I want to update. Don, I get the same residual gang of four when I download everything from Development, then manually run rpm -Fvh... rather than up2date or yum. The problem, it seems, is that I didn't install the -1288_FC4 kernel while it was still on Development. All four of these kernel cousins will have to be replaced with versions compiled for the latest kernel. -- Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From ckurecka at gmail.com Sat May 14 02:18:36 2005 From: ckurecka at gmail.com (Chris Kurecka) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 22:18:36 -0400 Subject: No sound FC4T3 SB Audigy 2 In-Reply-To: <42851A2B.5010003@gmail.com> References: <8b148baa050513134612fe3095@mail.gmail.com> <42851A2B.5010003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8b148baa050513191874caa3e4@mail.gmail.com> I actually ran alsaconf again without changing anything, rebooted, and now sound generally works. This is weird because I did the same thing yesterday, but I did resync to rawhide today. I still can't get my tv tuner's sound working, even with Aux (and every sound input for that matter) at 100%, but GNOME and its applications have audio. It's a pretty standard ATI TV Wonder using the bttv module, and the video comes through fine. Any tips on getting that working would be appreciated, but I can at least live without it for a while. Thanks. Chris Kurecka On 5/13/05, Linuxer Wang wrote: > Have a try with OSS. Maybe it will help you. From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl Sat May 14 01:08:20 2005 From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst von Brand) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 21:08:20 -0400 Subject: FC4 test 3 failure during installation In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 13 May 2005 21:50:44 +0300." <3bb3a4d00505131150a2904c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200505140108.j4E18KPc004742@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> M K said: > I downloaded the FC4T3 DVD image and burned it to a DVD-RW disk. Did you check the image, and then tested the burned DVD? -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 From kapointer at charter.net Sat May 14 03:22:37 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 22:22:37 -0500 Subject: FC4T3 Report, Dell Latitude D800 In-Reply-To: <1116031235.7378.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116031235.7378.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116040957.7255.0.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 17:40 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > Flawless install. > > Am I the only one that has to disable SELINUX to get the closed source > NVIDIA driver to install correctly? > > Sean > > You might be. It works fine for me. :) Of course, I disable SELinux during the install because I'm just not that concerned. :) -- Kyle From luya at jpopmail.com Sat May 14 08:27:36 2005 From: luya at jpopmail.com (luya at jpopmail.com) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 00:27:36 -0800 Subject: FC4T3 Report, Dell Latitude D800 Message-ID: <20050514082736.E98AC23D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Sean wrote: >Am I the only one that has to disable SELINUX to get the closed source >NVIDIA driver to install correctly? >Sean I rebuilt nvidia-glx from Livna repository using src.rpm inside 3 path. It works flawlessly without the need to disable SELinux. -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.jp.popstarmail.org Powered by Outblaze From whatsizbucket at comcast.net Sat May 14 11:03:33 2005 From: whatsizbucket at comcast.net (whatsizbucket at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:03:33 +0000 Subject: x86_64 oddities... Message-ID: <051420051103.5305.4285DB0500099A32000014B922007621949B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> I'm a bit new to the 64-bit architecture. I was under the impression that the 3.2+ line of Sempron's was 64-bit, but when I tried the install of the x86_64 DVD, I was told by Fedora that my system didn't use long instructions and to use a 32-bit distro. I am planning on moving back to Fedora, since it's easier to use as a server, but I want a complete Linux network for once! Am I right in this indo that I've found about the Sempron being 64 bit?? Or is the DVD having oddities...? Thanks for your help! -Jason From goemon at anime.net Sat May 14 11:16:55 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 04:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: x86_64 oddities... In-Reply-To: <051420051103.5305.4285DB0500099A32000014B922007621949B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 May 2005 whatsizbucket at comcast.net wrote: > Am I right in this indo that I've found about the Sempron being 64 > bit?? Or is the DVD having oddities...? There is no 64 bit sempron (yet!). The socket-a semprons are based on athlon XP cores, the sempron 3100+ (socket 754) use 64bit cores but the 64bit instructions are disabled. AMD has not yet announced any 64 bit semprons, but the fact intel is now releasing 64 bit celerons will surely force AMD's hand. -Dan From mk1970 at gmail.com Sat May 14 11:56:17 2005 From: mk1970 at gmail.com (M K) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:56:17 +0300 Subject: FC4 test 3 failure during installation In-Reply-To: <200505140108.j4E18KPc004742@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <3bb3a4d00505131150a2904c8@mail.gmail.com> <200505140108.j4E18KPc004742@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Message-ID: <3bb3a4d00505140456693bc255@mail.gmail.com> On 5/14/05, Horst von Brand wrote: > Did you check the image, and then tested the burned DVD? Of course I checked these things. The image's SHA1 checksum was okay after download and the image was successfully burned (without any errors) to the DVD-RW disk. MK From buildsys at redhat.com Sat May 14 11:58:08 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 07:58:08 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050514 changes Message-ID: <200505141158.j4EBw8VP003562@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: crypto-utils-2.2-5 ------------------ * Fri May 13 2005 Joe Orton 2.2-5 - genkey(1): fix paths to use /etc/pki devhelp-0.9.3-7 --------------- * Fri May 13 2005 Christopher Aillon 0.9.3-7 - Depend on mozilla 1.7.8 epiphany-1.6.1-3 ---------------- * Fri May 13 2005 Christopher Aillon - 1.6.1-3 - Depend on mozilla 1.7.8 firefox-0:1.0.4-2 ----------------- * Wed May 11 2005 Christopher Aillon 0:1.0.4-2 - Update to 1.0.4 gcc-4.0.0-5 ----------- * Thu May 12 2005 Jakub Jelinek 4.0.0-5 - update from CVS - PRs bootstrap/21403, c++/19203, c++/20723, c++/21352, c/21160, c/21342, c/21502, fortran/19478, fortran/21260, java/19285, java/20309, libffi/21285, libfortran/18958, libfortran/19155, libfortran/20788, libfortran/21471, libstdc++/18604, libstdc++/21238, middle-end/21085, other/21052, target/16925, target/19051, target/21325, target/21397, target/21412, target/21416, tree-optimization/21380 - use INTERNAL_SYSCALL* macros in libgcc_post_upgrade.c, so that the statically linked binary doesn't need TLS (#155701) - implement java.awt.Frame.getBufferStrategy (Thomas Fitzsimmons, #153266) - put C++ const POD arrays with size determined from initializer into .rodata section (PR c++/21454) - allow limited recursive hash tab use (#157308) - fix C++ "storage class specified for" error reporting (PR c++/21495) - fix crossjumping (#157243, PR middle-end/21492) gimp-2:2.2.7-4 -------------- * Fri May 13 2005 Nils Philippsen - fix inline asm of MMX/SSE optimizations instead of using -mmmx and the like * Fri May 13 2005 Nils Philippsen - fix cpuinstructionset patch so that it actually uses CPU-specific optimizations gnome-applets-1:2.10.1-7 ------------------------ * Fri May 13 2005 Ray Strode 1:2.10.1-7 - Don't disable battstat on some platforms (bug 157683). kernel-2.6.11-1.1305_FC4 ------------------------ * Thu May 12 2005 David Woodhouse - Enable CONFIG_ISA on ppc32 to make the RS/6000 user happy. - Update audit patches mdadm-1.9.0-4.fc4 ----------------- mozilla-37:1.7.8-2 ------------------ * Fri May 13 2005 Christopher Aillon 37:1.7.8-2 - Update to 1.7.8 perl-XML-Encoding-1.01-27 ------------------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 Jose Pedro Oliveira - 1.01-27 - Bring up to date with current Fedora.Extras perl spec template. (#156510) sox-12.17.7-3 ------------- * Thu May 12 2005 Thomas Woerner 12.17.7-3 - fixed bad link for man/man1/rec.1.gz (#154089) - using /usr/include instead of kernel-devel includes thunderbird-0:1.0.2-6 --------------------- * Fri May 13 2005 Christopher Aillon 1.0.2-6 - Change the Exec line in the desktop file to `thunderbird` * Fri May 13 2005 Christopher Aillon 1.0.2-5 - Update pango patche, MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO now works as advertised. * Mon May 09 2005 Christopher Aillon 1.0.2-4 - Add temporary workaround to not create files in the user's $HOME (#149664) xorg-x11-6.8.2-31 ----------------- * Fri May 13 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-31 - Added xorg-x11-6.8.2-ati-ragexl-ia64-avoidcpiofix.patch to workaround issue on ia64 with CPIO disabled in ati Mach64 driver (#155609,155610). For future reference, this is also included in RHEL4_U1 build 6.8.2-1.EL.13.5. From subscribed-lists at sterndata.com Sat May 14 15:03:15 2005 From: subscribed-lists at sterndata.com (Steven Stern) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 10:03:15 -0500 Subject: Dlink DWL-G510 and ndiswrapper - not working Message-ID: <42861333.3010008@sterndata.com> I've followed the standard recipe for installing ndiswrapper and activating the D-Link DWL G510 card. After installing the driver, iwconfig wlan0 reports "No wireless extensions". I've tried version 1.1 and 1.2 of ndiswrapper, but with no luck. System is a Dell Dimension 8400. -- Steve From subscribed-lists at sterndata.com Sat May 14 15:04:31 2005 From: subscribed-lists at sterndata.com (Steven Stern) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 10:04:31 -0500 Subject: SMP kernel hangs on boot Message-ID: <4286137F.3000009@sterndata.com> System is a Dell Dimension 8400 with HT enabled. System loads properly with the non-SMP kernel. Loading with SMP hangs afer the LVM is loaded. -- Steve From arjanv at redhat.com Sat May 14 15:39:57 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 17:39:57 +0200 Subject: Dlink DWL-G510 and ndiswrapper - not working In-Reply-To: <42861333.3010008@sterndata.com> References: <42861333.3010008@sterndata.com> Message-ID: <1116085198.6007.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 10:03 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > I've followed the standard recipe for installing ndiswrapper and > activating the D-Link DWL G510 card. you're probably better of not using ndiswrapper.. kernel people might actually care about bugs you report then :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have any useful suggestions, I'm interested. -- Steve From mrsam at courier-mta.com Sat May 14 16:17:35 2005 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:17:35 -0400 Subject: SMP kernel hangs on boot References: <4286137F.3000009@sterndata.com> Message-ID: Steven Stern writes: > System is a Dell Dimension 8400 with HT enabled. > > System loads properly with the non-SMP kernel. > > Loading with SMP hangs afer the LVM is loaded. Thank you for calling Miss Cleo's Psychic Technical Support Hotline. Unfortunately, all our operators are out to lunch, and nobody in the office knows how to operate our mind ray-beam machine, in order to extract the relevant details, (such as the exact version of the kernel you're trying to boot), out of your head. Please call back in about an hour, and make sure that you're not wearing anything made out of tin foil. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Sat May 14 17:22:35 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 17:22:35 +0000 Subject: Can Not UnMount CDrom or ISO files Message-ID: has anyone else got messed up reboots when they have mounted iso files or the unabilitty to ecect/umount the cdrom drive i was going to put this in bug zillia but have no clue what to list it under _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From hugh at mimosa.com Sat May 14 16:40:36 2005 From: hugh at mimosa.com (D. Hugh Redelmeier) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: rpmbuild rejects "Copyright:" in .spec Message-ID: Apparently the "Copyright" tag has been removed from the rpm spec language. It has been replaced with "License". One result is: $ rpmbuild -ta jove4.16.0.65.tgz error: Legacy syntax is unsupported: copyright error: line 35: Unknown tag: Copyright: Copyright (C) 1986-2002 by Jonathan Payne, freely redistributable This is the first I've heard that this tag was deprecated. Surely it would be better to issue a warning for a release cycle before completely rejecting it. This is unlikely to take more code since "Copyright" is still being recognized enough to note that it is "Legacy syntax". Apparently this is not a new complaint. But FC4 is the first place I've bumped into the problem. http://www.redhat.com/archives/rpm-list/2005-February/msg00049.html What makes this more annoying for me is that Jove is my normal text editor so it is what I would normally use to fix this kind of problem. I don't have it on my new machine to fix itself. The Jove distribution attempts to support old systems, including those before "License" was introduced. That support will have to be dropped, at least as far as RPM is concerned. (Jove supports UNIX distributions as far back as 7th Edition -- that's how much we care about support for old systems.) From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat May 14 18:02:18 2005 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:02:18 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild rejects "Copyright:" in .spec In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050514200218.7feceb1d.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 14 May 2005 12:40:36 -0400 (EDT), D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > Apparently the "Copyright" tag has been removed from the rpm spec > language. It has been replaced with "License". One result is: > > $ rpmbuild -ta jove4.16.0.65.tgz > error: Legacy syntax is unsupported: copyright > error: line 35: Unknown tag: Copyright: Copyright (C) 1986-2002 by Jonathan Payne, freely redistributable > > This is the first I've heard that this tag was deprecated. Surely it > would be better to issue a warning for a release cycle before > completely rejecting it. The tag is deprecated for a long time already. You could have used the "License:" tag much (!) earlier already. -- Fedora Core release Rawhide (Rawhide) - Linux 2.6.11-1.1303_FC4 loadavg: 1.76 2.11 1.96 From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Sat May 14 18:02:38 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 02:02:38 +0800 Subject: FC4T3 Report, Dell Latitude D800 In-Reply-To: <20050514082736.E98AC23D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050514082736.E98AC23D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <9792751e05051411025f2e4096@mail.gmail.com> hi, two of our testers from LinuxSir.Org have encountered the same problem and a third tester gives this link http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=573549 I wonder if it has some thing to do with where the nvidia-installer is. Since it is an executable, always downloaded by normal user, and got chmod +x then executed by root, what would happen to its file context in this procedure? 2005/5/14, luya at jpopmail.com : > Sean wrote: > >Am I the only one that has to disable SELINUX to get the closed source > >NVIDIA driver to install correctly? > > >Sean > > I rebuilt nvidia-glx from Livna repository using src.rpm inside 3 path. > It works flawlessly without the need to disable SELinux. > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mymail.jp.popstarmail.org > > Powered by Outblaze > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Sat May 14 18:17:56 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 02:17:56 +0800 Subject: nautilus prompts to burn iso when open a DVD-ROM disc Message-ID: <9792751e05051411176bc84247@mail.gmail.com> rt. I insert the disc, and login as normal user. Click on the desktop icon, nautilus opens burn dialog instead of view disc contents; but when click on the icon in "Computer", nautilus behaves correctly. after eject and mount a second time, the problem remains the same. My DVD-ROM cannot burn CD or DVD, and the disc is a normal DVD-ROM. :) versions: nautilus-2.10.0-4, hal-0.5.2 thanks. From dcbw at redhat.com Sat May 14 18:37:15 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Dlink DWL-G510 and ndiswrapper - not working In-Reply-To: <42861FE2.7090100@sterndata.com> References: <42861333.3010008@sterndata.com> <1116085198.6007.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <42861FE2.7090100@sterndata.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 May 2005, Steven Stern wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 10:03 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > > > >>I've followed the standard recipe for installing ndiswrapper and > >>activating the D-Link DWL G510 card. > > > > > > you're probably better of not using ndiswrapper.. kernel people might > > actually care about bugs you report then :) > > > > > > I'd love to not use it, but I can't find anything that tells me how to > use the existing wireless network card without it. If you have any > useful suggestions, I'm interested. Is it a G510 revision A, or a G510 revision B? Dan From lists at sapience.com Sat May 14 16:06:23 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:06:23 -0400 Subject: SMP kernel hangs on boot In-Reply-To: <4286137F.3000009@sterndata.com> References: <4286137F.3000009@sterndata.com> Message-ID: <20050514160623.GA11286@sapience.com> On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 10:04:31AM -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > System is a Dell Dimension 8400 with HT enabled. > System loads properly with the non-SMP kernel. > Loading with SMP hangs afer the LVM is loaded. May be similar to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156664 regards, g/ From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Sat May 14 19:04:34 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 19:04:34 +0000 Subject: vga term Message-ID: hey i know this might not be the best place to ask but i really need some info on booting to a vga term so i can install the nvidia driver speaking of which has anyone got the nvidia driver to work with cedega on FC4 T3 i have had to luck my glcgears are going slower the the seconds hand on my watch _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From seanfedora at gmail.com Sat May 14 19:05:16 2005 From: seanfedora at gmail.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:05:16 -0700 Subject: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! Message-ID: Hello All- I haven't updated my FC4T2 installation for a week or so, and did last night ran a yum update to get back on top of the latest releases. Things went okay until I init 0'd to shut down my computer. At the screen where all the processes get killed as Fedora goes down, I was recieving tons of error messages that access to this file and that file was blocked. Today I booted up into Fedora, and I can not get to runlevel 5 as SELinux is blocking EVERYTHING from running. I can not even "yum update" as SELinux is blocking both the process as well as access to the yum directory. Is there anything I can do to 1) work around the problem, and 2) send error logs of some sort to help track down the problem? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Sean From bob-ewart at earthlink.net Sat May 14 19:15:14 2005 From: bob-ewart at earthlink.net (Bob Ewart) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 15:15:14 -0400 Subject: Bad Magic-Number FC4-T3 on AMD-64 Message-ID: <42864E42.8040002@earthlink.net> I've tried twice to install FC4T3 amd64 on my system. It has 2 SATA disks (not raid). The first time I did an install everything to /dev/sdb2 and let it set-up grub in the MBR. When I rebooted, it hung telling me that I had a bad magic-number on /dev/sdb2. I restored the MBR and booted into SuSE 9.2. fsck told me it couldn't check /dev/sdb2 because the partition had some new features. So I reformatted the partition to ext3 and re-installed. This time the install didn't reformat the partition and didn't install grub. I updated the suse menu.lst and re-booted. Same error. This time fsck said the partition was ok. -- -- Bob I always follow the voices in my head. They tend to be right, most of the time. -- Linus Torvalds (linux-kernel mailing list) From rpa4email at rogers.com Sat May 14 19:15:33 2005 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 15:15:33 -0400 Subject: vga term In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505141515.33640.rpa4email@rogers.com> On Saturday 14 May 2005 15:04, Caleb Warta wrote: > hey i know this might not be the best place to ask but i really need some > info on booting to a vga term so i can install the nvidia driver speaking > of which has anyone got the nvidia driver to work with cedega on FC4 T3 i > have had to luck my glcgears are going slower the the seconds hand on my > watch telinit 3 from a terminal edit /etc/inittab and change initdefault from 5 to 3 (so you are assured of a accessing the system easily. I am running the latest nvidia driver here on FC4t3 without a problem. However, I noticed that running it with Composite enabled (for dropshadows and translucency stuff in KDE) it run a 100 times worse than the nv drivers (??) Anyone know why? Robert. From jeffy5 at optonline.net Sat May 14 19:16:45 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 15:16:45 -0400 Subject: Screensavers Message-ID: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> Hello All, Has anyone been able to access the screensavers in Desktop-Preferences-Screensaver? I have heard that there have been updates to resolve this situation but despite this, I have not been able to set any screensavers. Any help would be appreciated. Jeff From sugardave at gmail.com Sat May 14 19:22:06 2005 From: sugardave at gmail.com (David Freeman) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:22:06 -0500 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> Message-ID: If you rename the .xscreensaver file in your home directory, you can -rerun the Preferences->Screensaver app and the list will be rebuilt. On 5/14/05, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > > Hello All, > > Has anyone been able to access the screensavers in > Desktop-Preferences-Screensaver? I have heard that there have been > updates to resolve this situation but despite this, I have not been able > to set any screensavers. Any help would be appreciated. > > Jeff > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- Regards, "Sugar" Dave Freeman I accept e-gold! http://1662012.e-gold.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davej at redhat.com Sat May 14 19:26:20 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 15:26:20 -0400 Subject: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050514192620.GA26643@redhat.com> On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 12:05:16PM -0700, Sean Earp wrote: > Hello All- > > I haven't updated my FC4T2 installation for a week or so, and did last > night ran a yum update to get back on top of the latest releases. > Things went okay until I init 0'd to shut down my computer. At the > screen where all the processes get killed as Fedora goes down, I was > recieving tons of error messages that access to this file and that > file was blocked. > > Today I booted up into Fedora, and I can not get to runlevel 5 as > SELinux is blocking EVERYTHING from running. I can not even "yum > update" as SELinux is blocking both the process as well as access to > the yum directory. > > Is there anything I can do to 1) work around the problem, and 2) send > error logs of some sort to help track down the problem? > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, I had something like this happen to me about a month ago. iirc, I booted with selinux=0 and ran 'fixfiles relabel' and it was fine afterwards. Dave From subscribed-lists at sterndata.com Sat May 14 19:26:16 2005 From: subscribed-lists at sterndata.com (Steven Stern) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:26:16 -0500 Subject: Dlink DWL-G510 and ndiswrapper - not working In-Reply-To: References: <42861333.3010008@sterndata.com> <1116085198.6007.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <42861FE2.7090100@sterndata.com> Message-ID: <428650D8.30700@sterndata.com> Dan Williams wrote: > On Sat, 14 May 2005, Steven Stern wrote: > > >>Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 10:03 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I've followed the standard recipe for installing ndiswrapper and >>>>activating the D-Link DWL G510 card. >>> >>> >>>you're probably better of not using ndiswrapper.. kernel people might >>>actually care about bugs you report then :) >>> >>> >> >>I'd love to not use it, but I can't find anything that tells me how to >>use the existing wireless network card without it. If you have any >>useful suggestions, I'm interested. > > > Is it a G510 revision A, or a G510 revision B? > It's a Revision B. -- Steve From subscribed-lists at sterndata.com Sat May 14 19:27:08 2005 From: subscribed-lists at sterndata.com (Steven Stern) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:27:08 -0500 Subject: SMP kernel hangs on boot In-Reply-To: <20050514160623.GA11286@sapience.com> References: <4286137F.3000009@sterndata.com> <20050514160623.GA11286@sapience.com> Message-ID: <4286510C.6030307@sterndata.com> Mail Lists wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 10:04:31AM -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > >>System is a Dell Dimension 8400 with HT enabled. >>System loads properly with the non-SMP kernel. >>Loading with SMP hangs afer the LVM is loaded. > > > May be similar to: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156664 > > regards, > Thanks. It looks similar. -- Steve From jeffy5 at optonline.net Sat May 14 19:31:10 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 15:31:10 -0400 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> Message-ID: <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> David Freeman wrote: > If you rename the .xscreensaver file in your home directory, you can > -rerun the Preferences->Screensaver app and the list will be rebuilt. > > On 5/14/05, *Jeffrey D. Yuille* > wrote: > > Hello All, > > Has anyone been able to access the screensavers in > Desktop-Preferences-Screensaver? I have heard that there have been > updates to resolve this situation but despite this, I have not > been able > to set any screensavers. Any help would be appreciated. > > Jeff > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > -- > Regards, > "Sugar" Dave Freeman > > I accept e-gold! > http://1662012.e-gold.com/ > Hello Dave, What would I rename the ".xscreensaver" file to ? Jeff From mricon at gmail.com Sat May 14 20:25:44 2005 From: mricon at gmail.com (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 16:25:44 -0400 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> Message-ID: On 5/14/05, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > What would I rename the ".xscreensaver" file to ? .not-screensaver :) -- Konstantin Ryabitsev Zlotniks, INC "? ????? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?????????????." --???? From mike at netlyncs.com Sat May 14 20:26:04 2005 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 15:26:04 -0500 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 15:31 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > David Freeman wrote: > > > If you rename the .xscreensaver file in your home directory, you can > > -rerun the Preferences->Screensaver app and the list will be rebuilt. > > > What would I rename the ".xscreensaver" file to ? First off, he said rename, in other words, just to get rid of the .xscreensaver dir itself so it's recreated. Second, I had the same problem, and removing the .xscreensaver dir and even rebooting didn't populate the screensavers. This is with latest rawhide updates of of 3:25pm CST. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See :https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132267 Chandana From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat May 14 20:55:10 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 16:55:10 -0400 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910505141355724ee0c9@mail.gmail.com> On 5/14/05, Mike Chambers wrote: > Second, I had the same problem, and removing the .xscreensaver dir and > even rebooting didn't populate the screensavers. no screensavers come with the base screensaver package do you have xscreensavers-extras or -extras-gl installed? -jef From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat May 14 21:02:10 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 23:02:10 +0200 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <42866752.90109@gmx.de> Mike Chambers wrote: >First off, he said rename, in other words, just to get rid of >the .xscreensaver dir itself so it's recreated. > >Second, I had the same problem, and removing the .xscreensaver dir and >even rebooting didn't populate the screensavers. > > same here $ xscreensaver-demo xscreensaver-demo: 22:55:51: Gtk-critical: gtk_list_store_get_path: assertion `iter->stamp == GTK_LIST_STORE (tree_model)->stamp' failed $ xscreensaver-command -prefs xscreensaver-demo: 22:57:02: Gtk-critical: gtk_list_store_get_path: assertion `iter->stamp == GTK_LIST_STORE (tree_model)->stamp' failed -- shrek-m From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat May 14 21:12:51 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 23:12:51 +0200 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <604aa7910505141355724ee0c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <604aa7910505141355724ee0c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <428669D3.9030201@gmx.de> Jeff Spaleta wrote: >On 5/14/05, Mike Chambers wrote: > > >>Second, I had the same problem, and removing the .xscreensaver dir and >>even rebooting didn't populate the screensavers. >> >> >no screensavers come with the base screensaver package >do you have xscreensavers-extras or -extras-gl installed? > $ xscreensaver-demo --debug xscreensaver-demo: using config directory "/usr/share/xscreensaver/config" xscreensaver: 23:02:58: DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 xscreensaver: 23:02:58: added "/usr/libexec/xscreensaver" to $PATH xscreensaver-demo: 23:02:59: Gtk-critical: gtk_list_store_get_path: assertion `iter->stamp == GTK_LIST_STORE (tree_model)->stamp' failed xscreensaver-demo: 23:02:59: scheduling preview death xscreensaver-demo: 23:02:59: xscreensaver-gl-helper did not report a GL visual! xscreensaver-demo: 23:02:59: using default visual 0x0 xscreensaver-demo: 23:02:59: window id 0x320003D -> 0x320027A # yum install xscreensaver-gl* [...] Installed: xscreensaver-gl-extras.ppc 1:4.21-4 Complete! # yum -d0 list *screensaver* Installed Packages xscreensaver-base.ppc 1:4.21-4 installed xscreensaver-gl-extras.ppc 1:4.21-4 installed Available Packages xscreensaver-debuginfo.ppc 1:4.21-4 development xscreensaver-extras.ppc 1:4.21-4 development thanks, all is ok now. -- shrek-m From dcbw at redhat.com Sat May 14 21:18:34 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 17:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Dlink DWL-G510 and ndiswrapper - not working In-Reply-To: <428650D8.30700@sterndata.com> References: <42861333.3010008@sterndata.com> <1116085198.6007.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <42861FE2.7090100@sterndata.com> <428650D8.30700@sterndata.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 May 2005, Steven Stern wrote: > Dan Williams wrote: > > On Sat, 14 May 2005, Steven Stern wrote: > > > > > >>Arjan van de Ven wrote: > >> > >>>On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 10:03 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>I've followed the standard recipe for installing ndiswrapper and > >>>>activating the D-Link DWL G510 card. > >>> > >>> > >>>you're probably better of not using ndiswrapper.. kernel people might > >>>actually care about bugs you report then :) > >>> > >>> > >> > >>I'd love to not use it, but I can't find anything that tells me how to > >>use the existing wireless network card without it. If you have any > >>useful suggestions, I'm interested. > > > > > > Is it a G510 revision A, or a G510 revision B? > > > > It's a Revision B. Revision B cards appear to use the Atheros chipset, which has drivers for linux that work quite well: http://madwifi.sf.net The drivers there you'll have to compile yourself, since they are not in the kernel (and won't be, since they use some non-open-source binary bits). Alternatively, you could grab an RPM and rebuild the RPM (since the kernel module must match the running kernel): http://dl.atrpms.net/production/sources/fedora-3-i386/atrpms/madwifi-0.9.4.12-16.rhfc3.at.src.rpm As root, do: 1) rpm -Uhv /path/to/madwifi-0.9.4.12-16.rhfc3.at.src.rpm 2) cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS 3) rpmbuild -ba madwifi.spec 4) cd ../RPMS/i386 5) rpm -Uhv madwifi*.rpm Reboot. Dan From kapointer at charter.net Sat May 14 21:49:24 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 16:49:24 -0500 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1116107364.5870.0.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 15:16 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > Hello All, > > Has anyone been able to access the screensavers in > Desktop-Preferences-Screensaver? I have heard that there have been > updates to resolve this situation but despite this, I have not been able > to set any screensavers. Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Jeff > > Try deleting your .xscreensaver file. -- kyle From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat May 14 21:58:15 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 17:58:15 -0400 Subject: Pronlem with Intel 82810e DC-133 CC Video Controller In-Reply-To: <1116102629.4970.15.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116102629.4970.15.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <42867477.5020109@insight.rr.com> Chandana De Silva wrote: > I installed FC4 test 3.92 on my computer which has the ntel 82810e > DC-133 CC Video Controller. > > The install went fine, but the screen went blank after specifying the > screen resolution. I think this is when the X server is started for the > first time. > > The solution was to boot off the rescue cd, and > change /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add Option "noaccel" to the > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "i810" > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > BoardName "Intel 810" > Option "noaccel" > EndSection > > I think this bug has been around for some time. > See :https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132267 > > Chandana > The blanking problem is different than the refresh problem described in the bug report that you referenced. I have an Intel 815 (uses the i810 driver also) that works great except for a blue border prior to 3.92 and its version of X. I don't add the noaccel option and have no problem in resolutions higher than what is supported by DRI (1280x1024 at 24) and no problem with (1024x768 at 16). This is the version shortly before FC4T3 was released. Whatare you trying to set your resolution to when the blanking was encountered? (Depth/resolution?) I'm downloading the iso files for FC4T3 right now and would like to see if I can confirm your problem description. Jim -- I'm glad we don't have to play in the shade. -- Golfer Bobby Jones on being told that it was 105 degrees in the shade. From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Sat May 14 21:41:34 2005 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 23:41:34 +0200 Subject: Dlink DWL-G510 and ndiswrapper - not working In-Reply-To: References: <42861333.3010008@sterndata.com> <1116085198.6007.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <42861FE2.7090100@sterndata.com> <428650D8.30700@sterndata.com> Message-ID: <20050514214134.GA20502@neu.nirvana> On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 05:18:34PM -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > On Sat, 14 May 2005, Steven Stern wrote: > > Dan Williams wrote: > > > On Sat, 14 May 2005, Steven Stern wrote: > > >>Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > >>>On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 10:03 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > > >>>>I've followed the standard recipe for installing ndiswrapper and > > >>>>activating the D-Link DWL G510 card. > > >>> > > >>>you're probably better of not using ndiswrapper.. kernel people might > > >>>actually care about bugs you report then :) > > >> > > >>I'd love to not use it, but I can't find anything that tells me how to > > >>use the existing wireless network card without it. If you have any > > >>useful suggestions, I'm interested. > > > > > > Is it a G510 revision A, or a G510 revision B? > > > > It's a Revision B. > > Revision B cards appear to use the Atheros chipset, which has drivers for linux > that work quite well: > > http://madwifi.sf.net > > The drivers there you'll have to compile yourself, since they are not in the > kernel (and won't be, since they use some non-open-source binary bits). > > Alternatively, you could grab an RPM and rebuild the RPM (since the kernel > module must match the running kernel): > > http://dl.atrpms.net/production/sources/fedora-3-i386/atrpms/madwifi-0.9.4.12-16.rhfc3.at.src.rpm There are also packages for FC4t3 and rawhide under http://atrpms.net/dist/fc4/madwifi/ ATrpms is officially tracking rawhide since FC4t3 :) Currently packages for 1286, 1287, 1290 are up and for 1303 are being uploaded. If you point to the fc4 repo, you can use yum install madwifi-kmdl-`uname -r` madwifi and you'll have the bits installed. > As root, do: > > 1) rpm -Uhv /path/to/madwifi-0.9.4.12-16.rhfc3.at.src.rpm > 2) cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS > 3) rpmbuild -ba madwifi.spec > 4) cd ../RPMS/i386 > 5) rpm -Uhv madwifi*.rpm > > Reboot. > > Dan > -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From whatsizbucket at comcast.net Sun May 15 00:22:18 2005 From: whatsizbucket at comcast.net (whatsizbucket at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 00:22:18 +0000 Subject: Install fail on Compaq R4000 series laptop. Message-ID: <051520050022.11452.4286963A00068B6600002CBC22058860149B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> The install in both graphical mode and also text mode is failing (blank screen), even though there is DVD activity, but that shortly comes to a halt. I begin to wonder if the DVD image is faulty, or if the test version is not compatiblewith my R4000 series Presario. I will try a regular CD burn first. Fedora Core 3 install fails also (and the CD's are good). Laptop specs AMD Sempron 3200 80 gig HD 768 meg mem ATI Radeon XPress 200M (which I think may be the culprit if not the DVD image) linux text install fails also. Any ideas? -Jason From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Sun May 15 01:59:46 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:59:46 -0500 Subject: Install fail on Compaq R4000 series laptop. In-Reply-To: <051520050022.11452.4286963A00068B6600002CBC22058860149B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> References: <051520050022.11452.4286963A00068B6600002CBC22058860149B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1116122386.12295.0.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 00:22 +0000, whatsizbucket at comcast.net wrote: > The install in both graphical mode and also text mode is failing (blank screen), even though there is DVD activity, but that shortly comes to a halt. I begin to wonder if the DVD image is faulty, or if the test version is not compatiblewith my R4000 series Presario. I will try a regular CD burn first. > > Fedora Core 3 install fails also (and the CD's are good). > > Laptop specs > > AMD Sempron 3200 > 80 gig HD > 768 meg mem > ATI Radeon XPress 200M (which I think may be the culprit if not the DVD image) > > linux text install fails also. > > Any ideas? > > -Jason What do you see on the alt+f3 and alt+f4 screens when it dies? Thomas From rpa4email at rogers.com Sun May 15 02:13:21 2005 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:13:21 -0400 Subject: vga term In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505142213.21452.rpa4email@rogers.com> On Saturday 14 May 2005 20:06, Caleb Warta wrote: > i got it working i had to copy the files over by hand Hmmm, mine worked from the download. > but i havnt had anyluck with the shadows and transpernt features that one > of the menus offered after a restart it would error and tell me to add 3 > lines to the xorg.conf file and i did restarted and still got the error i > am not 100% sure on the location of these option anymore did to much head > to desk to day with the glx You need to add the following to your xorg.conf: Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection HTH! Let me know how you performance is with that feature turned on. Robert. From whatsizbucket at comcast.net Sun May 15 02:27:05 2005 From: whatsizbucket at comcast.net (whatsizbucket at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 02:27:05 +0000 Subject: Install fail on Compaq R4000 series laptop. Message-ID: <051520050227.28992.4286B3790004E5D90000714022070032019B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> > On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 00:22 +0000, whatsizbucket at comcast.net wrote: > > The install in both graphical mode and also text mode is failing (blank > screen), even though there is DVD activity, but that shortly comes to a halt. I > begin to wonder if the DVD image is faulty, or if the test version is not > compatiblewith my R4000 series Presario. I will try a regular CD burn first. > > > > Fedora Core 3 install fails also (and the CD's are good). > > > > Laptop specs > > > > AMD Sempron 3200 > > 80 gig HD > > 768 meg mem > > ATI Radeon XPress 200M (which I think may be the culprit if not the DVD image) > > > > linux text install fails also. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > -Jason > > What do you see on the alt+f3 and alt+f4 screens when it dies? > > Thomas > I see absolutely nothing... blank screen. Thanks for your help Thomas. From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Sun May 15 03:17:05 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:17:05 -0500 Subject: Install fail on Compaq R4000 series laptop. In-Reply-To: <051520050227.28992.4286B3790004E5D90000714022070032019B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> References: <051520050227.28992.4286B3790004E5D90000714022070032019B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1116127025.12295.3.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 02:27 +0000, whatsizbucket at comcast.net wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 00:22 +0000, whatsizbucket at comcast.net wrote: > > > The install in both graphical mode and also text mode is failing (blank > > screen), even though there is DVD activity, but that shortly comes to a halt. I > > begin to wonder if the DVD image is faulty, or if the test version is not > > compatiblewith my R4000 series Presario. I will try a regular CD burn first. > > > > > > Fedora Core 3 install fails also (and the CD's are good). > > > > > > Laptop specs > > > > > > AMD Sempron 3200 > > > 80 gig HD > > > 768 meg mem > > > ATI Radeon XPress 200M (which I think may be the culprit if not the DVD image) > > > > > > linux text install fails also. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > -Jason > > > > What do you see on the alt+f3 and alt+f4 screens when it dies? > > > > Thomas > > > > I see absolutely nothing... blank screen. > > Thanks for your help Thomas. So where exactly does it fail? You get the initial Fedora boot screen, you type "linux text," you hit enter and...? Does it just stop right there, or do you get any further? If so, how much further? Cheers! Thomas From russell at coker.com.au Sat May 14 10:39:55 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:39:55 +1000 Subject: Cisco VPN problem In-Reply-To: <1116017314.4970.9.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116017314.4970.9.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <200505142039.59580.russell@coker.com.au> On Saturday 14 May 2005 06:48, Chandana De Silva wrote: > The message I get is : > vpnclient: error while loading shared > libraries: /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so: cannot restore segment > prot after reloc: Permission denied What messages do you see in /var/log/audit/audit.log? Try using chcon to change the type of libvpnapi.so to shlib_t. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From ivg2 at cornell.edu Sun May 15 05:46:47 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 01:46:47 -0400 Subject: Cisco VPN problem In-Reply-To: <200505142039.59580.russell@coker.com.au> References: <1116017314.4970.9.camel@chandana.dis> <200505142039.59580.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1116136007.10910.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 20:39 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Saturday 14 May 2005 06:48, Chandana De Silva > wrote: > > The message I get is : > > vpnclient: error while loading shared > > libraries: /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so: cannot restore segment > > prot after reloc: Permission denied > > What messages do you see in /var/log/audit/audit.log? > > Try using chcon to change the type of libvpnapi.so to shlib_t. What does /usr/bin/readelf -d /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so |grep TEXTREL say? If it produces any results, you might want to also try setting it to texrel_shlib_t, or get the software changed to not contain text relocations (the better choice). -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From chandana at desilva.id.au Sun May 15 06:31:19 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 16:31:19 +1000 Subject: Pronlem with Intel 82810e DC-133 CC Video Controller In-Reply-To: <42867477.5020109@insight.rr.com> References: <1116102629.4970.15.camel@chandana.dis> <42867477.5020109@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1116138680.4970.18.camel@chandana.dis> Sorry I could not reply earlier. I set the resolution to 1024x768 at 16 and the hit ok, when the screen went blank. I am attaching xorg.conf for your information. On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 17:58 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Chandana De Silva wrote: > > I installed FC4 test 3.92 on my computer which has the ntel 82810e > > DC-133 CC Video Controller. > > > > The install went fine, but the screen went blank after specifying the > > screen resolution. I think this is when the X server is started for the > > first time. > > > > The solution was to boot off the rescue cd, and > > change /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add Option "noaccel" to the > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Videocard0" > > Driver "i810" > > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > > BoardName "Intel 810" > > Option "noaccel" > > EndSection > > > > I think this bug has been around for some time. > > See :https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132267 > > > > Chandana > > > > The blanking problem is different than the refresh problem described in > the bug report that you referenced. > > I have an Intel 815 (uses the i810 driver also) that works great except > for a blue border prior to 3.92 and its version of X. > I don't add the noaccel option and have no problem in resolutions higher > than what is supported by DRI (1280x1024 at 24) and no problem with > (1024x768 at 16). This is the version shortly before FC4T3 was released. > > Whatare you trying to set your resolution to when the blanking was > encountered? (Depth/resolution?) > > I'm downloading the iso files for FC4T3 right now and would like to see > if I can confirm your problem description. > > Jim > -------------- next part -------------- # XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option "XkbDisable" # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From chandana at desilva.id.au Sun May 15 07:35:59 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:35:59 +1000 Subject: Cisco VPN problem In-Reply-To: <200505142039.59580.russell@coker.com.au> References: <1116017314.4970.9.camel@chandana.dis> <200505142039.59580.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1116142559.4970.23.camel@chandana.dis> On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 20:39 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > What messages do you see in /var/log/audit/audit.log? This is what I get: ype=KERNEL msg=audit(1116142236.929:9075412): syscall=125 per=400000 exit=-13 a0=294000 a1=41000 a2=5 a3=bf8ba290 items=0 pid=6079 loginuid=-1 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm=vpnclient exe=/opt/cisco-vpnclient/bin/vpnclient type=KERNEL msg=audit(1116142236.929:9075412): avc: denied { execmod } for path=/opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so dev=hda2 ino=1293106 scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t tcontext=root:object_r:usr_t tclass=file > Try using chcon to change the type of libvpnapi.so to shlib_t. What is the command for this, is it chcon -v shlib_t /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so ( I have not used chcon before, so I am not sure how to supply the CONTEXT). Thanks for your help. Chandana From chandana at desilva.id.au Sun May 15 07:38:30 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:38:30 +1000 Subject: Cisco VPN problem In-Reply-To: <1116136007.10910.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116017314.4970.9.camel@chandana.dis> <200505142039.59580.russell@coker.com.au> <1116136007.10910.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116142710.4970.27.camel@chandana.dis> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 01:46 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > What does > /usr/bin/readelf -d /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so |grep TEXTREL > say? 0x00000016 (TEXTREL) 0x0 > If it produces any results, you might want to also try setting > it to texrel_shlib_t, I assume you want me to try chcon. do I simply put texrel_shlib_t for the conext ? Thanks. From arjanv at redhat.com Sun May 15 07:43:46 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:43:46 +0200 Subject: Cisco VPN problem In-Reply-To: <1116142710.4970.27.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116017314.4970.9.camel@chandana.dis> <200505142039.59580.russell@coker.com.au> <1116136007.10910.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116142710.4970.27.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <1116143027.6270.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:38 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 01:46 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > What does > > /usr/bin/readelf -d /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so |grep TEXTREL > > say? > 0x00000016 (TEXTREL) 0x0 so the thing is misbuilt. Time to invoke the warranty :)P (or just switch to vpnc/openswan to something that doesn't taint your kernel or corrupts data) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net Sun May 15 06:52:06 2005 From: vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net (HGM.bg (GMX)) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:52:06 +0200 Subject: FC4T3 hangs during boot at installation In-Reply-To: <1115932182.3350.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200505150752.j4F7qI5l023352@mx3.redhat.com> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > tor, 12.05.2005 kl. 22.05 skrev HGM.bg (GMX): >> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: >> >>> Any possibility that it migth be related to this bug? >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156418 >> >> Nope, because it hangs during the initial boot from DVD (right >> before any installation !!) >> > > Ahh... mine doesn't actually hang. > >>>> I have a running FC2 system and tried to boot FC4T3 DVD. During the >>>> first boot of the system, the boot process stops with >>>> >>>> Greetings. >>>> Input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 >> >> /hgm.bg > You should probably report a bug at bugzilla. But i don't know if it > should be anaconda or kernel - try anaconda, but the devs migth know > better and move it to kernel. Have done that, with still no results. As info: I tried to boot the FC4T2 DVD and gives exactly the same result. This is getting annoying because I'm on redhat since RedHat 4.0........ /hgm.bg From ivg2 at cornell.edu Sun May 15 08:51:40 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 04:51:40 -0400 Subject: Cisco VPN problem In-Reply-To: <1116143027.6270.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1116017314.4970.9.camel@chandana.dis> <200505142039.59580.russell@coker.com.au> <1116136007.10910.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116142710.4970.27.camel@chandana.dis> <1116143027.6270.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <1116147100.31897.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 09:43 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:38 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 01:46 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > > What does > > > /usr/bin/readelf -d /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so |grep TEXTREL > > > say? > > 0x00000016 (TEXTREL) 0x0 > > so the thing is misbuilt. Time to invoke the warranty :)P Speaking of things that are misbuilt, I think you should grep texrel_shlib_t /etc/selinux/strict/src/policy/file_contexts/distros.fc, where there's an extensive list of open-source software that suffers from the same problem. Some of those (wine) are valid, and I'm sure others need to be fixed, but I'm not sufficiently familiar with the linking process, and what causes text relocations to help with that. How about this bug, which keeps gpg from running properly on strict policy SELinux? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=154076 -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From luc.maignan at winxpert.com Sun May 15 08:17:20 2005 From: luc.maignan at winxpert.com (Luc MAIGNAN) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 10:17:20 +0200 Subject: Install problem with FC4 Message-ID: <42870590.7090705@winxpert.com> HI, I cannot install the FC4 on a laptop ACER FERRARI 3200 with amd64 version (the problem is exactly the same with a RHEL 4). The installation process begins, detects all hardware and then launches /sbin/loader. At this point, black screen and all is freezed. I tried to start the installation in text mode, with no probe option, ... : no effect. Has anyone an idea which gives me a chance to install it on my computer ? Best regards From JBuck814366460 at aol.com Sun May 15 09:23:34 2005 From: JBuck814366460 at aol.com (Jared Buck) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 02:23:34 -0700 Subject: Install problem with FC4 In-Reply-To: <42870590.7090705@winxpert.com> References: <42870590.7090705@winxpert.com> Message-ID: <1116149014.16033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 10:17 +0200, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > HI, > > I cannot install the FC4 on a laptop ACER FERRARI 3200 with amd64 > version (the problem is exactly the same with a RHEL 4). The > installation process begins, detects all hardware and then launches > /sbin/loader. At this point, black screen and all is freezed. I tried to > start the installation in text mode, with no probe option, ... : no effect. > > Has anyone an idea which gives me a chance to install it on my computer ? > > Best regards > Have you checked which version of the .isos you're using? If you have a 64-bit processor, which is what you're using, you need to install the 64-bit version of FC4 test 3. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/x86_64/iso/ Get them from that link or try one of the mirrors if RH's server is busy. FC4's i386 .isos will only work with non-32-bit processors. If your processor is a 32-bit version (such as the Pentium classes like the P4), you need to use the i386 .isos: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/i386/iso/ Again, try a mirror if RH's server is busy. You didn't specify which type of processor you're using. Linux is very picky about the processor - if you're using the wrong version of the .isos, it'll freeze like you describe. Hope this helps. Jared From chandana at desilva.id.au Sun May 15 10:07:19 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:07:19 +1000 Subject: Cisco VPN problem In-Reply-To: <1116142710.4970.27.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116017314.4970.9.camel@chandana.dis> <200505142039.59580.russell@coker.com.au> <1116136007.10910.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116142710.4970.27.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <1116151640.4970.30.camel@chandana.dis> I tried chcon -v -t texrel_shlib_t /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so and it seems to have worked. Thanks for your help. Chandana On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:38 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 01:46 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > What does > > /usr/bin/readelf -d /opt/cisco-vpnclient/lib/libvpnapi.so |grep TEXTREL > > say? > 0x00000016 (TEXTREL) 0x0 > > > If it produces any results, you might want to also try setting > > it to texrel_shlib_t, > I assume you want me to try chcon. do I simply put texrel_shlib_t for > the conext ? > > Thanks. > From luc.maignan at winxpert.com Sun May 15 09:38:31 2005 From: luc.maignan at winxpert.com (Luc MAIGNAN) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:38:31 +0200 Subject: Install problem with FC4 In-Reply-To: <1116149014.16033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <42870590.7090705@winxpert.com> <1116149014.16033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42871897.1080609@winxpert.com> Hi Jared, I hace a 64-bit processor (AMD-64) and I used (I think) the correct version : FC4-test3-x86_64-DVD.iso Have you another idea ? Best regards Jared Buck a ?crit : >On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 10:17 +0200, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > > >>HI, >> >>I cannot install the FC4 on a laptop ACER FERRARI 3200 with amd64 >>version (the problem is exactly the same with a RHEL 4). The >>installation process begins, detects all hardware and then launches >>/sbin/loader. At this point, black screen and all is freezed. I tried to >>start the installation in text mode, with no probe option, ... : no effect. >> >>Has anyone an idea which gives me a chance to install it on my computer ? >> >>Best regards >> >> >> > >Have you checked which version of the .isos you're using? If you have a >64-bit processor, which is what you're using, you need to install the >64-bit version of FC4 test 3. > >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/x86_64/iso/ > >Get them from that link or try one of the mirrors if RH's server is >busy. FC4's i386 .isos will only work with non-32-bit processors. > >If your processor is a 32-bit version (such as the Pentium classes like >the P4), you need to use the i386 .isos: > >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/i386/iso/ > >Again, try a mirror if RH's server is busy. > >You didn't specify which type of processor you're using. Linux is very >picky about the processor - if you're using the wrong version of >the .isos, it'll freeze like you describe. > >Hope this helps. > >Jared > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From cimmo at libero.it Sun May 15 11:34:31 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 13:34:31 +0200 Subject: Network so slow In-Reply-To: <1116023395.9085.3.camel@tiger> References: <1116023395.9085.3.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <428733C7.9030603@libero.it> Louis Garcia ha scritto: >I am having the same problem I have with FC3. Firefox is so slow for >resolving names. I believe it's because the the ipv6 module is loaded or >is it a dns lookup issue? How do I prevent the ipv6 module from loading? > >-Louis > > > only for FF: type about:config in the address bar and put network.dns.disableIPv6 to true From buildsys at redhat.com Sun May 15 12:10:55 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:10:55 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050515 changes Message-ID: <200505151210.j4FCAtbc015389@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: From linux at odegardfamily.org Sun May 15 13:29:18 2005 From: linux at odegardfamily.org (Mike Odegard) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 06:29:18 -0700 Subject: Install problem, FC4 Test 3 DVD Message-ID: <42874EAE.4020604@odegardfamily.org> When I boot from the DVD version of FC4 Test 3, with either the x86 or x86_64 version, the install gets to the point where you choose 'install from cdrom', and then ejects the DVD, and asks for the CD-Rom of Fedora. Has anyone else had this problem? From ricardo at ricter.homeip.net Sun May 15 15:41:59 2005 From: ricardo at ricter.homeip.net (ricardo at ricter.homeip.net) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:41:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Problem with php-mmcache Message-ID: <55084.192.168.0.252.1116171719.squirrel@rainbow> Hi I'm using postnuke 0.7.5.0 and everything is ok, so I decided to try php-mmcache and when I install and reload httpd I have a blank page where it should be my homepage, in /var/log/httpd/errors I've found this messages [30795] MMCACHE hit: "/var/www/postnuke/index.php" [30795] MMCACHE hit: "/var/www/postnuke/includes/pnAPI.php" [30795] MMCACHE hit: "/var/www/postnuke/config.php" [30795] MMCACHE hit: "/var/www/postnuke/pnadodb/adodb.inc.php" [30795] MMCACHE hit: "/var/www/postnuke/pnadodb/adodb-time.inc.php" [30795] MMCACHE hit: "/var/www/postnuke/pnadodb/adodb-iterator.inc.php" [30795] MMCACHE hit: "/var/www/postnuke/pnadodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php" [30795] MMCACHE hit: "/var/www/postnuke/pntables.php" [Fri May 06 01:38:38 2005] [notice] child pid 30795 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) and it happens everytime I've tried to make it work. I've tried ZendOptimizer-2.5.7-linux-glibc21-i386, after and it works fine. Has anybody tried php-mmcache on FC4? I've installed php-mmcache-5.0.4_2.4.6-6 Thanks Ricardo From kapointer at charter.net Sun May 15 14:52:52 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:52:52 -0500 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1116168772.24854.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> Well, .xscreensaver is a file not a directory. Just put mine in your home directory and then try xscreensaver... I have attached it. 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/usr/libexec/xscreensaver/lisa -root \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/lissie -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/goop -root \ -max-velocity 0.5 -elasticity 0.9 \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/starfish -root \n\ "Starfish (blob)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/starfish -root \ -blob \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/munch -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/mismunch -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/fadeplot -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/coral -root \ -delay 0 \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/mountain -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/triangle -root \ -delay 1 \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/worm -root \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/rotor -root \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/ant -root \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/demon -root \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/loop -root \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/vines -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/kaleidescope \ -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xjack -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xlyap -root \ -randomize \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/cynosure -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/flow -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/epicycle -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/interference \ -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/truchet -root \ -randomize \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/bsod -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/crystal -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/discrete -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/kumppa -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/rd-bomb -root \n\ "RD-Bomb (mobile)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/rd-bomb -root \ -speed 1 -size 0.1 \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/sonar -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/t3d -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/penetrate -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/deluxe -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/compass -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/squiral -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xflame -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/wander -root \n\ "Wander (spots)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/wander -root \ -advance 0 -size 10 -circles -length \ 10000 -reset 100000 \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/critical -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/phosphor -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xmatrix -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/petri -root \ -size 2 -count 20 \n\ "Petri 2" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/petri -root \ -minlifespeed 0.02 -maxlifespeed 0.03 \ -minlifespan 1 -maxlifespan 1 \ -instantdeathchan 0 -minorchan 0 \ -anychan 0.3 \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/shadebobs -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/ccurve -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/blaster -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/bumps -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xteevee -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xanalogtv -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xspirograph -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/nerverot -root \n\ - "NerveRot (dense)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/nerverot -root \ -count 1000 \n\ - "NerveRot (thick)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/nerverot -root \ -count 100 -line-width 4 \ -max-nerve-radius 0.8 -nervousness 0.5 \ -db \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xrayswarm -root \n\ - "Zoom (Fatbits)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/zoom -root \n\ "Zoom (Lenses)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/zoom -root \ -lenses \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/rotzoomer -root \n\ - "RotZoomer (mobile)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/rotzoomer -root \ -move \n\ - "RotZoomer (sweep)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/rotzoomer -root \ -sweep \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/whirlwindwarp \ -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/whirlygig -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/speedmine -root \n\ "SpeedWorm" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/speedmine -root \ -worm \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/vermiculate -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/twang -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/apollonian -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/euler2d -root \n\ "Euler2d (dense)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/euler2d -root \ -count 4000 -eulertail 400 -ncolors 230 \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/juggle -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/polyominoes -root \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/thornbird -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/fluidballs -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/anemone -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/halftone -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/metaballs -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/eruption -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/popsquares -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/barcode -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/piecewise -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/cloudlife -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/fontglide -root \ -page \n\ "FontGlide (scroller)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/fontglide -root \ -scroll \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/apple2 -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/bubbles -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/pong -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/wormhole -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/pacman -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/fuzzyflakes -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/anemotaxis -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/memscroller -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/substrate -root \n\ "Substrate (circles)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/substrate -root \ -circle-percent 33 \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/intermomentary \ -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/fireworkx -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/fiberlamp -root \n\ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/boxfit -root \n\ - default-n: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/webcollage -root \n\ - default-n: "WebCollage (whacked)" \ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/webcollage \ -root -filter \ '/usr/libexec/xscreensaver/vidwhacker \ -stdin -stdout' \n\ - default-n: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/vidwhacker -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/gears -root \n\ GL: "Gears (planetary)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/gears -root \ -planetary \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/superquadrics \ -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/morph3d -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/cage -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/moebius -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/stairs -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/pipes -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/sproingies -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/rubik -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/atlantis -root \ -gradient \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/lament -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/bubble3d -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/glplanet -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/flurry -root \ -preset random \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/pulsar -root \n\ - GL: "Pulsar (textures)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/pulsar -root \ -texture -mipmap -texture_quality \ -light -fog \n\ - GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/extrusion -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/sierpinski3d \ -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/menger -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/gflux -root \n\ GL: "GFlux (grab)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/gflux -root \ -mode grab \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/stonerview -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/starwars -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/gltext -root \n\ GL: "GLText (clock)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/gltext -text \ "%A%n%d %b %Y%n%r" -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/molecule -root \ -shells \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/dangerball -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/circuit -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/engine -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/flipscreen3d \ -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/glsnake -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/boxed -root \n\ - GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/glforestfire \ -root \n\ - GL: "GLForestFire (rain)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/glforestfire \ -root -count 0 \n\ - GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/sballs -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/cubenetic -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/spheremonics \ -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/lavalite -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/queens -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/endgame -root \n\ - GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/glblur -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/atunnel -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/flyingtoasters \ -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/bouncingcow -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/jigglypuff \ -root -random \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/klein -root \ -random \n\ GL: "HyperTorus (striped)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/hypertorus -root \n\ GL: "HyperTorus (solid)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/hypertorus \ -root -solid -transparent \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/cubestorm -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/glknots -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/blocktube -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/flipflop -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/antspotlight \ -root \n\ - GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/glslideshow -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/polytopes -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/gleidescope -root \n\ - GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/mirrorblob -root \n\ GL: "MirrorBlob (color only)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/mirrorblob \ -root -colour -no-texture \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/blinkbox -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/noof -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/polyhedra -root \n\ - GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/antinspect -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/providence -root \n\ GL: "Pinion (large gears)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/pinion -root \n\ GL: "Pinion (small gears)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/pinion -root \ -size 0.2 -scroll 0.3 \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/boing -root \ -lighting -smooth \n\ - GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/carousel -root \n\ GL: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/fliptext -root \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xdaliclock \ -root -builtin3 -cycle \n\ - default-n: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xearth -nofork \ -nostars -ncolors 50 -night 3 -wait 0 \ -timewarp 400.0 -pos sunrel/38/-30 \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xplanet -vroot \ -wait 1 -timewarp 90000 -label -origin \ moon \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xmountains -b \ -M -Z 0 -r 1 \n\ - "XMountains (top)" /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xmountains -b \ -M -Z 0 -r 1 -m \n\ - /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xaos -root \ -autopilot -nogui -delay 10000 \ -maxframerate 30 -incoloring -1 \ -outcoloring -1 \n\ - xfishtank -d -s \n\ - xsnow \n\ - goban -root \n\ - electricsheep \n\ - cosmos -root \n\ - GL: sphereEversion --root \n\ - GL: fireflies -root \n\ pointerPollTime: 0:00:05 pointerHysteresis: 10 windowCreationTimeout:0:00:30 initialDelay: 0:00:00 sgiSaverExtension: True xidleExtension: True GetViewPortIsFullOfLies:False procInterrupts: True overlayStderr: True From kapointer at charter.net Sun May 15 14:54:35 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:54:35 -0500 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <604aa7910505141355724ee0c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <604aa7910505141355724ee0c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116168875.24854.4.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 16:55 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/14/05, Mike Chambers wrote: > > Second, I had the same problem, and removing the .xscreensaver dir and > > even rebooting didn't populate the screensavers. > > no screensavers come with the base screensaver package > do you have xscreensavers-extras or -extras-gl installed? > > > -jef > > And another thing. When you install xscreensaver all the extra xscreensaver packages are installed be default! So unless he did something really odd during installation its because of the .xscreensaver config and has nothing to do with whether or not he has those extra packages installed. -- kle From tony at tgds.net Sun May 15 14:55:14 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 16:55:14 +0200 Subject: DRM not compiling Message-ID: <1116168915.10597.22.camel@hush> I'm running a modified -1303 kernel with great success except for one thing: - while trying to compile out of tree DRM for VIA CLE266 from CVS sources I keep getting the following error My system is a FC3 which was yum upgraded to FC4 test 4 and kernel upgraded (along with other applications) since. The unichrome people tell me I have kernel header problems. Can some kind person please help me debug this? TIA Tony CC [M] /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.o /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c: In function ?drm_agp_acquire?: /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:108: erreur: too few arguments to function ?agp_backend_acquire? /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c: In function ?drm_agp_release?: /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:139: erreur: too few arguments to function ?agp_backend_release? /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c: In function ?drm_agp_do_release?: /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:156: erreur: too few arguments to function ?agp_backend_release? /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c: In function ?drm_agp_enable?: /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:189: attention : passing argument 1 of ?agp_enable? makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:189: erreur: too few arguments to function ?agp_enable? /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c: In function ?drm_agp_init?: /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:429: attention : passing argument 1 of ?agp_copy_info? from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:429: erreur: too few arguments to function ?agp_copy_info? /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c: In function ?drm_agp_allocate_memory?:/usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:457: attention : passing argument 1 of ?agp_allocate_memory? makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:457: erreur: too few arguments to function ?agp_allocate_memory? /usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.c:458: attention : control reaches end of non-void function make[2]: *** [/usr/src/drm/linux-core/drm_agpsupport.o] Erreur 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/usr/src/drm/linux-core] Erreur 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.11' make: *** [modules] Erreur 2 From arjanv at redhat.com Sun May 15 15:11:24 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:11:24 +0200 Subject: DRM not compiling In-Reply-To: <1116168915.10597.22.camel@hush> References: <1116168915.10597.22.camel@hush> Message-ID: <1116169884.6270.27.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 16:55 +0200, tony wrote: > I'm running a modified -1303 kernel with great success except for one > thing: > > - while trying to compile out of tree DRM for VIA CLE266 from CVS > sources I keep getting the following error > > My system is a FC3 which was yum upgraded to FC4 test 4 and kernel > upgraded (along with other applications) since. > > The unichrome people tell me I have kernel header problems. Can some > kind person please help me debug this? the unichrome people have a problem in that their code hasn't adjusted to the updated agp API .... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From seanfedora at gmail.com Sun May 15 15:19:47 2005 From: seanfedora at gmail.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:19:47 -0700 Subject: Install fail on Compaq R4000 series laptop. In-Reply-To: <051520050022.11452.4286963A00068B6600002CBC22058860149B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> References: <051520050022.11452.4286963A00068B6600002CBC22058860149B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> Message-ID: <42876893.8080401@gmail.com> whatsizbucket at comcast.net wrote: >The install in both graphical mode and also text mode is failing (blank screen), even though there is DVD activity, but that shortly comes to a halt. I begin to wonder if the DVD image is faulty, or if the test version is not compatiblewith my R4000 series Presario. I will try a regular CD burn first. > >Fedora Core 3 install fails also (and the CD's are good). > >Laptop specs > >AMD Sempron 3200 >80 gig HD >768 meg mem >ATI Radeon XPress 200M (which I think may be the culprit if not the DVD image) > >linux text install fails also. > >Any ideas? > >-Jason > > > The following from the Release Notes fixed a similar problem for me on a Gateway laptop: * Certain hardware configurations (particularly those with LCD displays) may experience problems while starting the Fedora Core installation program. In these instances, restart the installation, and add the "nofb" option to the boot command line. Good luck! -Sean From tony at tgds.net Sun May 15 15:55:47 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:55:47 +0200 Subject: DRM not compiling In-Reply-To: <1116169884.6270.27.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1116168915.10597.22.camel@hush> <1116169884.6270.27.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <1116172548.10597.29.camel@hush> Le dimanche 15 mai 2005 ? 17:11 +0200, Arjan van de Ven a ?crit : > the unichrome people have a problem in that their code hasn't adjusted > to the updated agp API .... Is this easy to patch/fix? My programming experience is null to very limited. Tony From subscribed-lists at sterndata.com Sun May 15 16:09:33 2005 From: subscribed-lists at sterndata.com (Steven Stern) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:09:33 -0500 Subject: Dlink DWL-G510 and ndiswrapper - not working In-Reply-To: <20050514214134.GA20502@neu.nirvana> References: <42861333.3010008@sterndata.com> <1116085198.6007.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <42861FE2.7090100@sterndata.com> <428650D8.30700@sterndata.com> <20050514214134.GA20502@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <4287743D.5030307@sterndata.com> Axel Thimm wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 05:18:34PM -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > >>On Sat, 14 May 2005, Steven Stern wrote: >> >>>Dan Williams wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 14 May 2005, Steven Stern wrote: >>>> >>>>>Arjan van de Ven wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 10:03 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I've followed the standard recipe for installing ndiswrapper and >>>>>>>activating the D-Link DWL G510 card. >>>>>> >>>>>>you're probably better of not using ndiswrapper.. kernel people might >>>>>>actually care about bugs you report then :) >>>>> >>>>>I'd love to not use it, but I can't find anything that tells me how to >>>>>use the existing wireless network card without it. If you have any >>>>>useful suggestions, I'm interested. >>>> >>>>Is it a G510 revision A, or a G510 revision B? >>> >>>It's a Revision B. >> >>Revision B cards appear to use the Atheros chipset, which has drivers for linux >>that work quite well: >> >>http://madwifi.sf.net >> >>The drivers there you'll have to compile yourself, since they are not in the >>kernel (and won't be, since they use some non-open-source binary bits). >> >>Alternatively, you could grab an RPM and rebuild the RPM (since the kernel >>module must match the running kernel): >> >>http://dl.atrpms.net/production/sources/fedora-3-i386/atrpms/madwifi-0.9.4.12-16.rhfc3.at.src.rpm > > > There are also packages for FC4t3 and rawhide under > > http://atrpms.net/dist/fc4/madwifi/ > > ATrpms is officially tracking rawhide since FC4t3 :) > > Currently packages for 1286, 1287, 1290 are up and for 1303 are being > uploaded. > > If you point to the fc4 repo, you can use > > yum install madwifi-kmdl-`uname -r` madwifi > > and you'll have the bits installed. > > >>As root, do: >> >>1) rpm -Uhv /path/to/madwifi-0.9.4.12-16.rhfc3.at.src.rpm >>2) cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS >>3) rpmbuild -ba madwifi.spec >>4) cd ../RPMS/i386 >>5) rpm -Uhv madwifi*.rpm >> >>Reboot. >> >>Dan >> > > Thanks very much to you and Dan. -- Steve From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 15 16:21:27 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 18:21:27 +0200 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <1116168875.24854.4.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <604aa7910505141355724ee0c9@mail.gmail.com> <1116168875.24854.4.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> Message-ID: <42877707.2050703@gmx.de> Kyle Pointer wrote: >On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 16:55 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > >>On 5/14/05, Mike Chambers wrote: >> >> >>>Second, I had the same problem, and removing the .xscreensaver dir and >>>even rebooting didn't populate the screensavers. >>> >>> >>no screensavers come with the base screensaver package >>do you have xscreensavers-extras or -extras-gl installed? >> >> >And another thing. When you install xscreensaver all the extra >xscreensaver packages are installed be default! > you are sure ? >So unless he did >something really odd during installation its because of >the .xscreensaver config and has nothing to do with whether or not he >has those extra packages installed. > mine was a clean, fresh FC4t3.ppc installation, and yes, only "xscreensaver-base" was here. # yum -d0 list *screensaver* Installed Packages xscreensaver-base.ppc 1:4.21-4 installed Available Packages xscreensaver-debuginfo.ppc 1:4.21-4 development xscreensaver-extras.ppc 1:4.21-4 development xscreensaver-gl-extras.ppc 1:4.21-4 development and yes, immediately after installing "xscreensaver-gl-extras" all was ok. -- shrek-m From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Sun May 15 19:18:23 2005 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:18:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: ftpd_selinux problem ? Message-ID: <20050515191823.22256.qmail@web86504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Having read the man ftpd_selinux page I can get anonymous ftp to work (only tested read only mode so far) by typing what is suggested in a terminal window. chcon -R -t ftpd_anon_t /var/ftp But what I cant get to work with selinux protection on is ftp access to a users home directory just by either using the system-config-securitylevel tool to enable acces to home directories or by typing the following command in a terminal window. setsebool -P ftp_home_dir 1 When I try to login as a user with a home directory I get this error message at the client end after the password is entered Error sending status request (Operation not permitted) Login failed. Do you also have to use chcon to appropriatly label a users home directory. From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Sun May 15 20:27:44 2005 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:27:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: ftpd_selinux manpage inconsistancy Message-ID: <20050515202744.3673.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> The line after "setsebool -P ftpd_disable_trans 1" reads "system vsftpd restart" but this when typed produces an error. The line should be "service vsftpd restart" presumably. From liste-p.alain at wanadoo.fr Sun May 15 22:20:38 2005 From: liste-p.alain at wanadoo.fr (Aph) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 00:20:38 +0200 Subject: Grisbi 0.5.6 Message-ID: <200505160020.38878@carola.nyarlathotep> Grisbi is a personnal accounting application released under the GPL licence. Grisbi RPMS version 0.5.6 for Fedora Core 4 are now available on our download page http://www.grisbi.org/download.en.html#fedora . This version is a bug fixes release, but it also features four new translations : spanish, dutch, italian and polish. Regards. -- Il n'est pas question de mod?ration !!! Les gens ont ? se prononcer sur les caract?ristiques d'une robot-mod?ration -+- BC in Guide du Neuneu Usenet - C'est robot pour ?tre vrai -+- From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun May 15 23:07:51 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 19:07:51 -0400 Subject: Pronlem with Intel 82810e DC-133 CC Video Controller In-Reply-To: <1116138680.4970.18.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116102629.4970.15.camel@chandana.dis> <42867477.5020109@insight.rr.com> <1116138680.4970.18.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <4287D647.4030904@insight.rr.com> Chandana De Silva wrote: > Sorry I could not reply earlier. I set the resolution to 1024x768 at 16 and > the hit ok, when the screen went blank. I am attaching xorg.conf for > your information. > I was able to get a blank screen once when I tried FC4T2 version of X at 1280x1024 at 24 when launching ppcracer. The problem did not show at 1024x768 at 16 and ppcracer did not reveal any defects with X, other than the blue border in the virtual terminals. I did not use noaccel as an option during the tests. To get the blank screen, launch ppcracer, then escape to get out of the program. Notice unresponsiveness and switch to a virtual terminal. Notice the blue border around the visible text. Once you are back to the GUI (screen 7), notice the blank screen. to exit the GUI (runlevel 3), hit ctl-alt-backspace. Once the server is destroyed, launch X again. X comes back up normally. Ppcracer was not as unresponsive during the relaunch of X and I did not change to a virtual terminal. There might be a problem with the driver now blanking, but it is not 100% reproducable during the tests that I did. Are there any other users of FC4T3 having similar blank screens? Jim -- Going from DOS to Linux is like trading a glider for an F117. From dsavage at peaknet.net Sun May 15 23:15:50 2005 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 18:15:50 -0500 Subject: FC4t3 XXXX-kernel dependencies Message-ID: <1116198950.5183.47.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Because I don't have the 1288_FC4 kernel installed (and can no longer fetch it from Development), these updates fail this dependency and will not update: GFS-kernel-2.6.11.5-20050505.133825.FC4.6 cman-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425154843.FC4.14 dlm-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.16 gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.13 What's the plan for these? -- Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From luya at jpopmail.com Sun May 15 23:24:24 2005 From: luya at jpopmail.com (luya at jpopmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 15:24:24 -0800 Subject: FC4T3 Report, Dell Latitude D800 Message-ID: <20050515232424.AF13D23D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Try to compile with Livna version of Nvidia installer http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/3/i386/SRPMS.stable/nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.src.rpm >hi, two of our testers from LinuxSir.Org have encountered the same problem and a third tester gives this link http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=573549 >I wonder if it has some thing to do with where the nvidia-installer is. Since it is an executable, always downloaded by normal user, and got chmod +x then executed by root, what would happen to its file context in this procedure? -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.jp.popstarmail.org Powered by Outblaze From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Mon May 16 00:02:24 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:02:24 -0400 Subject: FC4t3 XXXX-kernel dependencies In-Reply-To: <1116198950.5183.47.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <1116198950.5183.47.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <4287E310.1060502@insight.rr.com> Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > Because I don't have the 1288_FC4 kernel installed (and can no longer > fetch it from Development), these updates fail this dependency and will > not update: > > GFS-kernel-2.6.11.5-20050505.133825.FC4.6 > cman-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425154843.FC4.14 > dlm-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.16 > gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.13 > > What's the plan for these? > > -- Doc > Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL > Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p > "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." > -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov > I'm experiencing the same errors. I was gone for a week and missed the particular kernel version. Bug report? kernel-2.6.11-1.1282_FC4 (on vacation, missed 1288) kernel-2.6.11-1.1305_FC4 Jim --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package gnbd-kernel -- You put the disk in upside down. From ronnybaby at linuxmail.org Mon May 16 00:32:34 2005 From: ronnybaby at linuxmail.org (Ronny Strenger) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:32:34 +0800 Subject: HUH? Message-ID: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> What's going on with the latest Fedora?? I have tried downloading Fedora 4 test3 several times and I, for the life of me, cannot get the number one disk to boot! What COULD I be doing wrong?? -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From mrsam at courier-mta.com Mon May 16 00:50:21 2005 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:50:21 -0400 Subject: HUH? References: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Ronny Strenger writes: > What's going on with the latest Fedora?? > > I have tried downloading Fedora 4 test3 several times and I, for the life of me, cannot get the number one disk to boot! > > What COULD I be doing wrong?? Your first step is to verify if the checksum of the downloaded iso image file is correct. Presuming that your checksums match, the possibilities are: A) Your burn produced a coaster B) Your BIOS settings need to be changed in order to enable booting off a CD C) There's an issue with the FC4T3 kernel that prevents it from booting on your specific hardware -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 16 00:59:57 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:59:57 +1000 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: References: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1116205197.3462.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> > > What COULD I be doing wrong?? > > Your first step is to verify if the checksum of the downloaded iso image > file is correct. I'm going to ask on behalf of Ronny. How do you check a checksum of an iso image? I know how to do this when you can boot the first disk (because it prompts you to do it) but I'm not sure how to do it from the command line. Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From fox3ec208 at wideopenwest.com Mon May 16 01:08:51 2005 From: fox3ec208 at wideopenwest.com (Terry Polzin) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:08:51 -0400 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <1116205197.3462.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <1116205197.3462.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <200505152108.56257.fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com> On Sunday May 15 2005 20:59, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > I'm going to ask on behalf of Ronny. > > How do you check a checksum of an iso image? > > I know how to do this when you can boot the first disk (because it > prompts you to do it) but I'm not sure how to do it from the command > line. Simple, grab the file in the directory that contains the iso images named SHA1SUM with that file in the same directory as the iso images, run the command sha1sum --check SHA1SUM the output should be selfexplanatory, else RTFM sha1sum Cheers, -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronnybaby at linuxmail.org Mon May 16 01:17:35 2005 From: ronnybaby at linuxmail.org (Ronny Strenger) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:35 +0800 Subject: HUH? Message-ID: <20050516011735.80DED203EE@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Most likely "C". As I am very computer literate. My bios is set to boot from CD only, yet windows boots anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Varshavchik" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Subject: Re: HUH? Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:50:21 -0400 > > Ronny Strenger writes: > > > What's going on with the latest Fedora?? > > > > I have tried downloading Fedora 4 test3 several times and I, for > > the life of me, cannot get the number one disk to boot! > > > > What COULD I be doing wrong?? > > Your first step is to verify if the checksum of the downloaded iso > image file is correct. > > Presuming that your checksums match, the possibilities are: > > A) Your burn produced a coaster > > B) Your BIOS settings need to be changed in order to enable booting off a CD > > C) There's an issue with the FC4T3 kernel that prevents it from > booting on your specific hardware << 1.2.dat >> > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 16 01:18:06 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:18:06 -0400 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <1116205197.3462.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <1116205197.3462.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <604aa79105051518181c8dada7@mail.gmail.com> On 5/15/05, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > How do you check a checksum of an iso image? > > I know how to do this when you can boot the first disk (because it > prompts you to do it) but I'm not sure how to do it from the command > line. The instructions on the website aren't clear enough? http://fedora.redhat.com/download/test.html -jef From ronnybaby at linuxmail.org Mon May 16 01:20:59 2005 From: ronnybaby at linuxmail.org (Ronny Strenger) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:20:59 +0800 Subject: HUH? Message-ID: <20050516012059.671C723D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Also, I am in SuSE 9.3 linux and I use K3B which has MD5 built in. All of my downloads and burns have been checked and verified. As I said, I downloaded several times and wasted all of my cd's... now in the trash! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodd Clarkson" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Subject: Re: HUH? Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:59:57 +1000 > > > > What COULD I be doing wrong?? > > > > Your first step is to verify if the checksum of the downloaded > > iso image file is correct. > > I'm going to ask on behalf of Ronny. > > How do you check a checksum of an iso image? > > I know how to do this when you can boot the first disk (because it > prompts you to do it) but I'm not sure how to do it from the command > line. > > > Rodd > -- > "It's a fine line between denial and faith. > It's much better on my side" > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From dsavage at peaknet.net Mon May 16 01:24:02 2005 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:24:02 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <1116205197.3462.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <1116205197.3462.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1116206643.5183.58.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 10:59 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > I'm going to ask on behalf of Ronny. > > How do you check a checksum of an iso image? > > I know how to do this when you can boot the first disk (because it > prompts you to do it) but I'm not sure how to do it from the command > line. Rodd, Download the SHA1SUM file along with the ISO images, then from their directory run: $ sha1sum -c SHA1SUM FC4-test3-i386-DVD.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc1.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc2.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc3.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc4.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-disc1.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-disc2.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-disc3.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-disc4.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-rescuecd.iso: OK If one or more fails to compute "OK", start searching for an rsync site. -- Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p **Bob Costas for Baseball Commissioner** From ronnybaby at linuxmail.org Mon May 16 01:25:58 2005 From: ronnybaby at linuxmail.org (Ronny Strenger) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:25:58 +0800 Subject: HUH? Message-ID: <20050516012558.40988203EE@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> My mobo is a Gigabyte GA-V7AXP AMD 2000+ processor 512k Mem ATI 9000 Radeon Video w/ 128 mb ram IBM 40 gig HDD BTC CD Recorder Pioneer DVD drive Anything else? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Varshavchik" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Subject: Re: HUH? Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:50:21 -0400 > > Ronny Strenger writes: > > > What's going on with the latest Fedora?? > > > > I have tried downloading Fedora 4 test3 several times and I, for > > the life of me, cannot get the number one disk to boot! > > > > What COULD I be doing wrong?? > > Your first step is to verify if the checksum of the downloaded iso > image file is correct. > > Presuming that your checksums match, the possibilities are: > > A) Your burn produced a coaster > > B) Your BIOS settings need to be changed in order to enable booting off a CD > > C) There's an issue with the FC4T3 kernel that prevents it from > booting on your specific hardware << 1.2.dat >> > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From ronnybaby at linuxmail.org Mon May 16 01:28:23 2005 From: ronnybaby at linuxmail.org (Ronny Strenger) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:28:23 +0800 Subject: HUH? Message-ID: <20050516012823.0F03F2B2B86@ws5-7.us4.outblaze.com> To be honest... I've had more trouble with Fedora than any other distro I've tried! And I have tried 2 dozen others. I do not see as to HOW Fedora stays at the ranking it does on Distrowatches list! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Subject: Re: HUH? Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:24:02 -0500 > > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 10:59 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > I'm going to ask on behalf of Ronny. > > > > How do you check a checksum of an iso image? > > > > I know how to do this when you can boot the first disk (because it > > prompts you to do it) but I'm not sure how to do it from the command > > line. > > Rodd, > > Download the SHA1SUM file along with the ISO images, then from their > directory run: > > $ sha1sum -c SHA1SUM > FC4-test3-i386-DVD.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc1.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc2.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc3.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc4.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-disc1.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-disc2.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-disc3.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-disc4.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-rescuecd.iso: OK > > If one or more fails to compute "OK", start searching for an rsync site. > > -- Doc > Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL > Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p > **Bob Costas for Baseball Commissioner** > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From kapointer at charter.net Mon May 16 01:44:45 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:44:45 -0500 Subject: Screensavers In-Reply-To: <42877707.2050703@gmx.de> References: <42864E9D.3070902@optonline.net> <428651FE.2070509@optonline.net> <1116102364.2762.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <604aa7910505141355724ee0c9@mail.gmail.com> <1116168875.24854.4.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> <42877707.2050703@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1116207886.4748.0.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 18:21 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > Kyle Pointer wrote: > > >On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 16:55 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > > > >>On 5/14/05, Mike Chambers wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Second, I had the same problem, and removing the .xscreensaver dir and > >>>even rebooting didn't populate the screensavers. > >>> > >>> > >>no screensavers come with the base screensaver package > >>do you have xscreensavers-extras or -extras-gl installed? > >> > >> > >And another thing. When you install xscreensaver all the extra > >xscreensaver packages are installed be default! > > > > you are sure ? > > >So unless he did > >something really odd during installation its because of > >the .xscreensaver config and has nothing to do with whether or not he > >has those extra packages installed. > > > > mine was a clean, fresh FC4t3.ppc installation, > and yes, only "xscreensaver-base" was here. > > # yum -d0 list *screensaver* > Installed Packages > xscreensaver-base.ppc 1:4.21-4 installed > Available Packages > xscreensaver-debuginfo.ppc 1:4.21-4 development > xscreensaver-extras.ppc 1:4.21-4 development > xscreensaver-gl-extras.ppc 1:4.21-4 development > > > and yes, immediately after installing "xscreensaver-gl-extras" all was ok. > Well thats odd. Perhaps its because I always did the INSTALL ALL :) But anyways, the lack of screensaver packages probably isn't the problem. Try putting that attachment in ~/ :) -- kyle From nman64 at n-man.com Mon May 16 01:50:56 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:50:56 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516012823.0F03F2B2B86@ws5-7.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516012823.0F03F2B2B86@ws5-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4287FC80.1030004@n-man.com> Ronny Strenger wrote: >To be honest... I've had more trouble with Fedora than any other distro >I've tried! And I have tried 2 dozen others. > >I do not see as to HOW Fedora stays at the ranking it does on Distrowatches list! > > > Fedora keeps its rankings because it deserves them, and runs reliably on most systems. I can verify that Fedora does work on the hardware you specified. I have seen it run with all of those hardware elements. You should try booting from another bootable CD to see if that is your problem. You should also try booting from a different CD drive. You should also try seeing if the CDs you are creating will boot another system. Also, don't take this the wrong way, but you need to make absolutely sure that you are booting from the correct disc, FC4-test3-i386-disc1.iso. Rather than start bad-mouthing Fedora, you should try to track down the cause of your problem, otherwise you will almost certainly be sticking your foot in your mouth. It is highly unlikely, though admittedly possible, that Fedora is responsible for your troubles. -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ronnybaby at linuxmail.org Mon May 16 02:00:09 2005 From: ronnybaby at linuxmail.org (Ronny Strenger) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:00:09 +0800 Subject: HUH? Message-ID: <20050516020009.7234A416118@ws5-2.us4.outblaze.com> NO FOOT IN MY MOUTH! I have done ALL you've listed. If you would have read all my posts, you would have realized this. THX for your insight. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Barnes" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Subject: Re: HUH? Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:50:56 -0500 > > Ronny Strenger wrote: > > > To be honest... I've had more trouble with Fedora than any other distro > > I've tried! And I have tried 2 dozen others. > > > > I do not see as to HOW Fedora stays at the ranking it does on > > Distrowatches list! > > > > > > > > Fedora keeps its rankings because it deserves them, and runs reliably on > most systems. I can verify that Fedora does work on the hardware you > specified. I have seen it run with all of those hardware elements. You > should try booting from another bootable CD to see if that is your > problem. You should also try booting from a different CD drive. You > should also try seeing if the CDs you are creating will boot another > system. Also, don't take this the wrong way, but you need to make > absolutely sure that you are booting from the correct disc, > FC4-test3-i386-disc1.iso. Rather than start bad-mouthing Fedora, you > should try to track down the cause of your problem, otherwise you will > almost certainly be sticking your foot in your mouth. It is highly > unlikely, though admittedly possible, that Fedora is responsible for > your troubles. > > -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com << signature.asc >> > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From dsavage at peaknet.net Mon May 16 02:06:16 2005 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:06:16 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516012823.0F03F2B2B86@ws5-7.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516012823.0F03F2B2B86@ws5-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1116209177.5183.69.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 09:28 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > To be honest... I've had more trouble with Fedora than any other distro > I've tried! And I have tried 2 dozen others. > > I do not see as to HOW Fedora stays at the ranking it does on Distrowatches list! Ronny, Editorials aside, what was the result of your sha1sum run? -- Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From lists at sapience.com Mon May 16 02:14:25 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:14:25 -0400 Subject: multipathd messages in syslog Message-ID: <20050516021425.GA4225@sapience.com> I have boat loads of the following: May 15 22:10:14 fc4t3 multipathd: no devmap found May 15 22:10:14 fc4t3 multipathd: can't get devmaps ... retry Are these normal? Machine is standalone, mounts a few nfs partitions and sits on a network. If not what other info is useful to understand the cause? g/ From lists at sapience.com Mon May 16 02:18:58 2005 From: lists at sapience.com (Mail Lists) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:18:58 -0400 Subject: /dev/rtc time out on boot/shutdown Message-ID: <20050516021858.GB4225@sapience.com> Nothing is written to logs (that I could find) or dmesg but on boot or shutdown I always get something like (paraphrased) Seems to come from /sbin/hwclock on shutdown - didn't notice what triggered it on bootup. select timed out waiting on /dev/rtc g/ From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 16 02:27:17 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:27:17 +1000 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <1116206643.5183.58.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <1116205197.3462.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116206643.5183.58.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <1116210437.3462.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 20:24 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 10:59 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > I'm going to ask on behalf of Ronny. > > > > How do you check a checksum of an iso image? > > > > I know how to do this when you can boot the first disk (because it > > prompts you to do it) but I'm not sure how to do it from the command > > line. > > Rodd, > > Download the SHA1SUM file along with the ISO images, then from their > directory run: > > $ sha1sum -c SHA1SUM > FC4-test3-i386-DVD.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc1.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc2.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc3.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc4.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-disc1.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-disc2.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-disc3.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-disc4.iso: OK > FC4-test3-i386-rescuecd.iso: OK > > If one or more fails to compute "OK", start searching for an rsync site. > > -- Doc Doc, Thanks for the polite reply. I was expecting the usual barrage of "RTFM" style comments, but to be honest, if I spent all my time "RTFM-ing" I wouldn't actually have time to do anything else, and I guess that sometimes the benefits of a community if that I can know my bits and you know yours and we can help each other. Rodd ;-] -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From bikehead at amberpoint.com Mon May 16 02:34:08 2005 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Bikehead) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 19:34:08 -0700 Subject: selinux and acpi actions... Message-ID: <428806A0.30902@amberpoint.com> I have FC4T3 synced up to the latest dev changes (5/15/05). I'm having trouble with getting acpi actions to work with SElinux enabled. I made a lid event in /etc/acpi/events that invokes a sleep script in /etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh. The sleep script does a touch /tmp/suspend and then 'echo mem> /sys/power/state'. I set the context to system_u:object_r:etc_t, same as the /etc/acpi/events/sample.conf. When I close the lid the system doesn't suspend. The /var/logs/acpid says that 'touch: cannot touch '/tmp/suspended': Permission denied' and /etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh: line 5: /sys/power/state: Permission denied'. The /var/logs/audit/audit.log say 'type=(null) msg=(null)' about 20 times, but no other info. If I setenforce 0 and close the lid then all works fine. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- __o _-\<,_ Brian (_)/ (_) From nman64 at n-man.com Mon May 16 02:58:02 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:58:02 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516020009.7234A416118@ws5-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516020009.7234A416118@ws5-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <42880C3A.3010604@n-man.com> Ronny Strenger wrote: >NO FOOT IN MY MOUTH! > >I have done ALL you've listed. > >If you would have read all my posts, you would have realized this. > >THX for your insight. > > > I did indeed read all of your posts, and you did not specify those steps. If you have carried out all of those steps, you should be able to provide us with more information. One of those steps would have told you what sort of problem this is (eg. hardware malfunction, incompatible hardware, faulty burn, faulty disc, user error...) and we could provide additional advice. Without the results of the various test you conduct, we cannot provide additional insight. -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ronnybaby at linuxmail.org Mon May 16 03:24:13 2005 From: ronnybaby at linuxmail.org (Ronny Strenger) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:24:13 +0800 Subject: HUH? Message-ID: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> I downloaded and burned it three MORE seperate times and it failed every single time!!! I guess Fedora isn't for me. I am NOT wasting anymore disks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Subject: Re: HUH? Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:06:16 -0500 > > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 09:28 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > > To be honest... I've had more trouble with Fedora than any other distro > > I've tried! And I have tried 2 dozen others. > > > > I do not see as to HOW Fedora stays at the ranking it does on > > Distrowatches list! > > Ronny, > > Editorials aside, what was the result of your sha1sum run? > > -- Doc > Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL > Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p > "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." > -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon May 16 03:28:26 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:28:26 -0400 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20050516032826.GA14284@jadzia.bu.edu> On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:24:13AM +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > I downloaded and burned it three MORE seperate times > and it failed every single time!!! Did you do the same thing every time? If you're doing the wrong thing repeatedly, it's not likely to get better. > I guess Fedora isn't for me. I am NOT wasting anymore > disks! Okay. But it's probably not a Fedor-specific problem, since Fedora isn't doing anything odd here (and in fact plays things safer than some distros). -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 71 degrees Fahrenheit. From ronnybaby at linuxmail.org Mon May 16 03:36:56 2005 From: ronnybaby at linuxmail.org (Ronny Strenger) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:36:56 +0800 Subject: HUH? Message-ID: <20050516033656.29A9121AFF9@ws5-6.us4.outblaze.com> I tried several different media, various download mirrors and whatever else I could think of. I have NEVER had this problem with any other distro. Why is it only Fedora that I have these issues with? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Miller" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Subject: Re: HUH? Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:28:26 -0400 > > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:24:13AM +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > > I downloaded and burned it three MORE seperate times > > and it failed every single time!!! > > Did you do the same thing every time? If you're doing the wrong thing > repeatedly, it's not likely to get better. > > > I guess Fedora isn't for me. I am NOT wasting anymore disks! > > Okay. But it's probably not a Fedor-specific problem, since Fedora isn't > doing anything odd here (and in fact plays things safer than some distros). > > -- > Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org > Boston University Linux ------> > Current office temperature: 71 degrees Fahrenheit. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From ronnybaby at linuxmail.org Mon May 16 03:38:14 2005 From: ronnybaby at linuxmail.org (Ronny Strenger) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:38:14 +0800 Subject: HUH? Message-ID: <20050516033814.33DEF23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> THEY ARE BAD DOWNLOADS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Barnes" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Subject: Re: HUH? Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:58:02 -0500 > > Ronny Strenger wrote: > > > NO FOOT IN MY MOUTH! > > > > I have done ALL you've listed. > > > > If you would have read all my posts, you would have realized this. > > > > THX for your insight. > > > > > > > I did indeed read all of your posts, and you did not specify those > steps. If you have carried out all of those steps, you should be able > to provide us with more information. One of those steps would have told > you what sort of problem this is (eg. hardware malfunction, incompatible > hardware, faulty burn, faulty disc, user error...) and we could provide > additional advice. Without the results of the various test you conduct, > we cannot provide additional insight. > > -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com << signature.asc >> > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From jpearson42 at wowway.com Mon May 16 02:56:03 2005 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:56:03 -0400 Subject: Install problem with FC4 In-Reply-To: <1116149014.16033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <42870590.7090705@winxpert.com> <1116149014.16033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200505152256.04265.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Sunday 15 May 2005 05:23 am, Jared Buck wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 10:17 +0200, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > > HI, > > > > I cannot install the FC4 on a laptop ACER FERRARI 3200 with amd64 > > version (the problem is exactly the same with a RHEL 4). The > > installation process begins, detects all hardware and then launches > > /sbin/loader. At this point, black screen and all is freezed. I tried to > > start the installation in text mode, with no probe option, ... : no > > effect. > > > > Has anyone an idea which gives me a chance to install it on my computer ? > > > > Best regards > > Have you checked which version of the .isos you're using? If you have a > 64-bit processor, which is what you're using, you need to install the > 64-bit version of FC4 test 3. > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/x86_64/is >o/ > > Get them from that link or try one of the mirrors if RH's server is > busy. FC4's i386 .isos will only work with non-32-bit processors. > > If your processor is a 32-bit version (such as the Pentium classes like > the P4), you need to use the i386 .isos: > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/i386/iso/ > > Again, try a mirror if RH's server is busy. > > You didn't specify which type of processor you're using. Linux is very > picky about the processor - if you're using the wrong version of > the .isos, it'll freeze like you describe. > > Hope this helps. > > Jared Actually, I have both the i386 and the x86_64 versions of fc4t3 installed on an amd based machine. It allows to compare them. There has never been a problem with the install. -jpearson From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Mon May 16 03:51:50 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:51:50 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516033814.33DEF23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516033814.33DEF23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1116215510.12133.6.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 11:38 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > THEY ARE BAD DOWNLOADS How is that Fedora's fault? Any time you get a bad download you will have problems installing. If you don't get the right sha1sum results on the downloaded ISO images you will probably not get a good download. As was suggested earlier, look for an rsync mirror. Also - keep in mind that you are talking about FC4t3 - that is a pre- release version. If you want to try the "stable" version please install FC3. Fedora Core is by its nature a very rapidly changing distro, and is *likely* to have bugs. Please read the first paragraph at http://fedora.redhat.com/. FC is a proving ground for technology that might end up in Red Hat Enterprise Linux. If you want a distro intended for production which is commercially supported, please take a look at http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel. Thomas From teamwassily at yahoo.com Mon May 16 04:01:56 2005 From: teamwassily at yahoo.com (Teak Billard) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050516040156.76113.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I don't think people really get what a "test release" is. I know that a little while ago I downloaded FC3t1 for an old computer of mine instead of FC2 and FC3t1 just wouldn't run. Someone should take the bittorrent list at Duke and have a separate page for stable releases and another for test releases. It's very easy to tell yourself, what the hell I'll download a test release instead and try it out. Then you guys have to deal with all the nutters who aren't prepared for what's coming their way. Make the test releases difficult to get at, make them hidden from those who might be eager to try it out and not yet ready to deal with the possible madness of a test release. Teak --- Thomas Cameron wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 11:38 +0800, Ronny Strenger > wrote: > > THEY ARE BAD DOWNLOADS > > How is that Fedora's fault? Any time you get a bad > download you will > have problems installing. If you don't get the > right sha1sum results on > the downloaded ISO images you will probably not get > a good download. As > was suggested earlier, look for an rsync mirror. > > Also - keep in mind that you are talking about FC4t3 > - that is a pre- > release version. If you want to try the "stable" > version please install > FC3. > > Fedora Core is by its nature a very rapidly changing > distro, and is > *likely* to have bugs. Please read the first > paragraph at > http://fedora.redhat.com/. FC is a proving ground > for technology that > might end up in Red Hat Enterprise Linux. If you > want a distro intended > for production which is commercially supported, > please take a look at > http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel. > > Thomas > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nman64 at n-man.com Mon May 16 04:02:58 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:02:58 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516033656.29A9121AFF9@ws5-6.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516033656.29A9121AFF9@ws5-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <42881B72.2060205@n-man.com> Ronny Strenger wrote: >I tried several different media, various download mirrors >and whatever else I could think of. > >I have NEVER had this problem with any other distro. > >Why is it only Fedora that I have these issues with? > > > I'm going to put this as simply as possible: Either you have bad hardware or you are doing something incorrectly. Repeatedly doing the same thing will not improve the results. If you cannot pay attention to everything that has been said (as clearly you have not) then you are not going to get help here. It sounds like you should probably not be using the test version anyway. Either follow the directions you have been given, or go away. Do not keep posting pointlessly to this list. -Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From scott.aaron at abc.net.au Mon May 16 04:38:52 2005 From: scott.aaron at abc.net.au (Aaron Scott) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:38:52 +1000 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1116218332.13483.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Can you perhaps describe what happens when you attempt to boot from it? We are still waiting on the results of other suggestions to help you further. > As I am very computer literate. You should have no trouble describing what happens then. Shame you can't conduct yourself in a way that validates your claim. Remember no one here owes you a damn thing. If you don't like the advice people give, don't reply. > I downloaded and burned it three MORE seperate times > and it failed every single time!!! Definition of stupidity - Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. > I do not see as to HOW Fedora stays at the ranking it does on > Distrowatches list! If you like basing your opinions on Test or Beta software, maybe Windows is for you. On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 11:24 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > I downloaded and burned it three MORE seperate times > and it failed every single time!!! > > I guess Fedora isn't for me. I am NOT wasting anymore > disks! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > Subject: Re: HUH? > Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:06:16 -0500 > > > > > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 09:28 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > > > To be honest... I've had more trouble with Fedora than any other distro > > > I've tried! And I have tried 2 dozen others. > > > > > > I do not see as to HOW Fedora stays at the ranking it does on > > > Distrowatches list! > > > > Ronny, > > > > Editorials aside, what was the result of your sha1sum run? > > > > -- Doc > > Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL > > Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p > > "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." > > -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org > This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. > > Powered by Outblaze > From JBuck814366460 at aol.com Mon May 16 04:55:04 2005 From: JBuck814366460 at aol.com (Jared Buck) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:55:04 -0700 Subject: Hi all!! Message-ID: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From louisg00 at bellsouth.net Mon May 16 04:56:29 2005 From: louisg00 at bellsouth.net (Louis Garcia) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 00:56:29 -0400 Subject: No sound Message-ID: <1116219389.24774.2.camel@tiger> I have no sound with FC4T3 and Creative Labs live EMU10k1. Use to work with FC3. -Louis From rpaiz at simpaticus.com Mon May 16 05:25:36 2005 From: rpaiz at simpaticus.com (Rodolfo J. Paiz) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:25:36 -0600 Subject: Minimal install In-Reply-To: <000f01c5559e$15ff6520$2202a8c0@cadstation> References: <000f01c5559e$15ff6520$2202a8c0@cadstation> Message-ID: <1116221136.11696.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 13:23 -0700, Steven Morehouse wrote: > I am pleased to report that Test 3 no longer requires two CDs for a > minimal install! :) Can you post, or email me, a package list? How much space did the thing take up? Can you post, or email me, the output of: # rpm -qa | sort # rpm -qa | wc -l # df Thanks!!! Cheers, -- Rodolfo J. Paiz From linxt at comcast.net Mon May 16 06:47:12 2005 From: linxt at comcast.net (Tom) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:47:12 -0700 Subject: Hi all!! In-Reply-To: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> References: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> Message-ID: <200505152347.12405.linxt@comcast.net> On Sunday 15 May 2005 21:55, Jared Buck wrote: > How's everyone?? I was excited to try out the rest3 version of FC4, it > installed flawlessly on my machine, and so far have not been experiencing > any problems except for when up2date freezes when it says it's gathering a > list of packages on my machine.? I read the messages and apparently it's a > common bug everyone's experiencing so I'm not too worried about it.? I'm > using yum update instead and that works fine. > > I like all the new features, but it did take me a little bit to get used > to where the configuration options are now (like add/remove packages, etc), > but they're in a much more logical position now than they were before.? > Also love all the stuff that comes with KDE now, there's a ton of stuff I > have yet to try out :) > > I've done beta testing before (I'm doing that now for an online game) so I > know to expect bugs and glitches, but aside from the bug I've mentioned, > test3's been working very well for me. > > Jared Buck > Crestline, CA Hi Jared: First, PLEASE don't use HTML on this list. For most of us it is a nuisance and waste of bandwidth. It also can harbor evil things like viruses and hidden links to spam. Crestline, CA. Haven't been there in many years. Is the Club San Moritz still there? Spent many summers at Lake Gregory. Thanks, Tom -- Tom Taylor registered linux user #263467 From luc.maignan at winxpert.com Mon May 16 06:50:46 2005 From: luc.maignan at winxpert.com (Luc MAIGNAN) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:50:46 +0200 Subject: Install problem with FC4 In-Reply-To: <200505152256.04265.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <42870590.7090705@winxpert.com> <1116149014.16033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200505152256.04265.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <428842C6.2060101@winxpert.com> Thanks all for time spending to help me. The solution was to start install with 'nofb' option (problem perhaps with LCD display) John Pearson a ?crit : >On Sunday 15 May 2005 05:23 am, Jared Buck wrote: > > >>On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 10:17 +0200, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: >> >> >>>HI, >>> >>>I cannot install the FC4 on a laptop ACER FERRARI 3200 with amd64 >>>version (the problem is exactly the same with a RHEL 4). The >>>installation process begins, detects all hardware and then launches >>>/sbin/loader. At this point, black screen and all is freezed. I tried to >>>start the installation in text mode, with no probe option, ... : no >>>effect. >>> >>>Has anyone an idea which gives me a chance to install it on my computer ? >>> >>>Best regards >>> >>> >>Have you checked which version of the .isos you're using? If you have a >>64-bit processor, which is what you're using, you need to install the >>64-bit version of FC4 test 3. >> >>http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/x86_64/is >>o/ >> >>Get them from that link or try one of the mirrors if RH's server is >>busy. FC4's i386 .isos will only work with non-32-bit processors. >> >>If your processor is a 32-bit version (such as the Pentium classes like >>the P4), you need to use the i386 .isos: >> >>http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.92/i386/iso/ >> >>Again, try a mirror if RH's server is busy. >> >>You didn't specify which type of processor you're using. Linux is very >>picky about the processor - if you're using the wrong version of >>the .isos, it'll freeze like you describe. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >>Jared >> >> >Actually, I have both the i386 and the x86_64 versions of fc4t3 installed on >an amd based machine. It allows to compare them. There has never been a >problem with the install. > >-jpearson > > > From fedora at capriclub.de Mon May 16 09:33:29 2005 From: fedora at capriclub.de (Dirk Spiegel) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:33:29 +0200 Subject: Hi all!! In-Reply-To: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> References: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> Message-ID: <1116236009.4880.11.camel@linux.workstation> hello, thanks I'm fine - hope the rest of the list too ;-) The same was with my installation of FC4T3 on my old AMD 1GHz, Elitegroup board with SIS online Sound, LG DVD Writer and Riva TNT 16 MB AGP. Installationspeed was less fluently then with FC3, but later I saw that it installed 6.7 GB! - so it was ok. KDE seems to work already fine. The slightly problems I discovered: -GNOME: when I lowered Programs to the Taskbar, the animation seems to kick them out of the window via right bottom edge. I was only able to get it back with ALT+TAB. up2date: Firsttime it seems to freeze. When I tried again I got the packages, but when I checked them it said still 0 kb and the OK-button was still disabled. btw, thanks to the Fedora team for installing PHP5 :-) it took me several days to compile PHP5 and Apache2 to my Redhat9, so that I will be lucky to replace this Server with the final release of Fedora Core 4 regards, Dirk Am Sonntag, den 15.05.2005, 21:55 -0700 schrieb Jared Buck: > How's everyone? I was excited to try out the rest3 version of FC4, it > installed flawlessly on my machine, and so far have not been > experiencing any problems except for when up2date freezes when it says > it's gathering a list of packages on my machine. I read the messages > and apparently it's a common bug everyone's experiencing so I'm not > too worried about it. I'm using yum update instead and that works > fine. > > I like all the new features, but it did take me a little bit to get > used to where the configuration options are now (like add/remove > packages, etc), but they're in a much more logical position now than > they were before. Also love all the stuff that comes with KDE now, > there's a ton of stuff I have yet to try out :) > > I've done beta testing before (I'm doing that now for an online game) > so I know to expect bugs and glitches, but aside from the bug I've > mentioned, test3's been working very well for me. > > Jared Buck > Crestline, CA > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20050516033814.33DEF23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516033814.33DEF23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c05051603187a5d22ed@mail.gmail.com> > THEY ARE BAD DOWNLOADS bad downloads can easily be proved with qemu: qemu -cdrom the-first-boot-disk.iso -boot d if that boots, then it isn't the download. if that works, you can eliminate it being the cd's you're burning with qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d nb: replace /dev/cdrom with whatever is appropriate if you don't have qemu, then: wget http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-0.7.0.tar.gz tar zxvf qemu-0.7.0.tar.gz cd qemu-0.7.0 ./configure make make install (ironically, these compilation instructions won't work on fc4t[1-3], you'll have to use the older (supplied) version of gcc) From andrewg at linnetsol.co.uk Mon May 16 10:23:01 2005 From: andrewg at linnetsol.co.uk (Andrew Gray) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:23:01 +0100 Subject: via module for x86_64 FC4 Message-ID: <1116238982.24594.50.camel@ldesk.linnet.int> Will there be a x86_64 "via" module for Xorg in the final FC4 release or am I missing something and it already exists. if so where? I have to use "vesa" module in xorg with xorg.conf at the moment. Xorg.0.log:- X Window System Version 6.8.2 Release Date: 9 February 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-27.ELsmp x86_64 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux linnetmesh.linnet.int 2.6.11-1.1305_FC4 #1 Fri May 13 13:53:50 EDT 2005 x86_64 Build Date: 13 May 2005 Build Host: thor.perf.redhat.com (II) LoadModule: "via" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module via (II) UnloadModule: "via" (EE) Failed to load module "via" (module does not exist, 0) My Athlon 64 3400+ VIA K8N800 VIA S 3G UniChrome Pro IGP Kernel 2.6.11-1.1305_FC4 #1 Fri May 13 13:53:50 EDT 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux xorg-x11-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-xauth-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-twm-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.2-31 fonts-xorg-100dpi-6.8.2-1 xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-xdm-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.2-31 xorg-x11-tools-6.8.2-31 Any news would be helpful about video modules in x86_64 FC4 --Andrew Gray FC4 Test 1 (updated daily so effectively FC4 Test 3) From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 16 10:31:28 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:31:28 +0200 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516033814.33DEF23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516033814.33DEF23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <42887680.9030802@gmx.de> Ronny Strenger wrote: >THEY ARE BAD DOWNLOADS > HUH? - HAH! was fuer ein niedlicher troll. -- shrek-m From jeffy5 at optonline.net Mon May 16 10:36:41 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 06:36:41 -0400 Subject: Hi all!! In-Reply-To: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> References: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> Message-ID: <428877B9.8030602@optonline.net> Jared Buck wrote: > How's everyone? I was excited to try out the rest3 version of FC4, it > installed flawlessly on my machine, and so far have not been > experiencing any problems except for when up2date freezes when it says > it's gathering a list of packages on my machine. I read the messages > and apparently it's a common bug everyone's experiencing so I'm not > too worried about it. I'm using yum update instead and that works fine. > > I like all the new features, but it did take me a little bit to get > used to where the configuration options are now (like add/remove > packages, etc), but they're in a much more logical position now than > they were before. Also love all the stuff that comes with KDE now, > there's a ton of stuff I have yet to try out :) > > I've done beta testing before (I'm doing that now for an online game) > so I know to expect bugs and glitches, but aside from the bug I've > mentioned, test3's been working very well for me. > > Jared Buck > Crestline, CA Hello Jared, I have installed FC4T3 on my IBM ThinkPad T-30 and it installed flawlessly as well. And you right - there is still a bug with Up2Date, as it freezes. In fact, I prefer to use YUM anyway because I can see the results as the updates download. The only problem that I initially had after the installation was that LimeWire did not function properly. I corrected that situation by using a newer version of Java and it was working again. The only difference between you and me is that I am using the Gnome desktop environment, which works great for me. Jeffrey D. Yuille Piscataway, New Jersey From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 16 11:05:43 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:05:43 +0200 Subject: Minimal install In-Reply-To: <1116221136.11696.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <000f01c5559e$15ff6520$2202a8c0@cadstation> <1116221136.11696.92.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42887E87.6030008@gmx.de> Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: >On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 13:23 -0700, Steven Morehouse wrote: > > >>I am pleased to report that Test 3 no longer requires two CDs for a >>minimal install! :) >> >> afair this was because openoffice.org was accidently in the minimal-install >Can you post, or email me, a package list? How much space did the thing >take up? Can you post, or email me, the output of: > ># rpm -qa | sort ># rpm -qa | wc -l ># df > > $ yum groupinfo Base Core "Dialup Networking Support" it would be great if you would compare this list with the Fedora/base/comps.xml my understanding is that it will include the packages from "base" "core" "dialup" ---------------- $ vi /media/cdrom/Fedora/base/comps.xml [...] base Base This group includes a minimal set of packages. Useful for creating small router/firewall boxes, for example. [...] core dialup NetworkManager acl acpid anacron apmd cpuspeed aspell aspell-en at attr authconfig authd autofs bc bind-utils bluez-hcidump bluez-libs bluez-utils bridge-utils brltty bzip2 crash crontabs cryptsetup cyrus-sasl-plain dhclient dhcpv6_client diffutils diskdumputils dos2unix dosfstools dump eject ethtool fbset finger ftp gpm hardlink ipsec-tools iptstate irda-utils jpackage-utils jwhois krb5-workstation krbafs-utils lftp lha logrotate logwatch lsof mailcap man man-pages mdadm mgetty mkbootdisk mtools mtr nano nc netconfig netdump nfs-utils nss_db nss_ldap ntsysv numactl openCryptoki openssh-clients openssh-server pam_ccreds pam_krb5 pam_passwdqc pam_smb parted pax pciutils pcmcia-cs ksh pinfo pm-utils prctl prelink psacct quota rdate rdist redhat-lsb rp-pppoe rsh rsync schedutils sendmail setarch setuptool slocate specspo star stunnel sudo symlinks sysreport system-config-network-tui system-config-securitylevel-tui talk tcp_wrappers tcpdump tcsh telnet time tmpwatch traceroute unix2dos unzip up2date utempter vconfig vixie-cron wget which wireless-tools ypbind yum zip --------/-------- -- shrek-m From dsavage at peaknet.net Mon May 16 11:08:20 2005 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 06:08:20 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1116241700.5183.77.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 11:24 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > I downloaded and burned it three MORE seperate times > and it failed every single time!!! > > I guess Fedora isn't for me. I am NOT wasting anymore > disks! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > Subject: Re: HUH? > Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:06:16 -0500 > > > > > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 09:28 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > > > To be honest... I've had more trouble with Fedora than any other distro > > > I've tried! And I have tried 2 dozen others. > > > > > > I do not see as to HOW Fedora stays at the ranking it does on > > > Distrowatches list! > > > > Ronny, > > > > Editorials aside, what was the result of your sha1sum run? Ronny, I'll try suggesting this one more time... After downloading the SHA1SUM file from the same repository you got your ISO files, run: $ sha1sum -c SHA1SUM and tell us the result. -- Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From whatsizbucket at comcast.net Mon May 16 11:09:22 2005 From: whatsizbucket at comcast.net (whatsizbucket at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:09:22 +0000 Subject: Install problem, FC4 Test 3 DVD Message-ID: <051620051109.21960.42887F62000AFC75000055C822070032019B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> > When I boot from the DVD version of FC4 Test 3, with either the x86 or > x86_64 version, the install gets to the point where you choose 'install > from cdrom', and then ejects the DVD, and asks for the CD-Rom of Fedora. > > Has anyone else had this problem? I just ran into it. the DVD just got spat out twice. Any theories as to why it rejects the DVD guys? -Jason From sds at tycho.nsa.gov Mon May 16 11:17:24 2005 From: sds at tycho.nsa.gov (Stephen Smalley) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:17:24 -0400 Subject: FC4T3 Report, Dell Latitude D800 In-Reply-To: <1116031235.7378.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116031235.7378.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116242244.28782.0.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 17:40 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > Flawless install. > > Am I the only one that has to disable SELINUX to get the closed source > NVIDIA driver to install correctly? That's a feature, not a bug ;) No, seriously, please file a bugzilla against selinux-policy-targeted with the relevant avc messages from your /var/log/audit/audit.log file. Thanks. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon May 16 11:36:22 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:36:22 +0200 Subject: Bringing interfaces up at boot and SElinux (?) Message-ID: <1116243381.3353.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> If i have a machine which are configured to start eth0 on boot, using dhcp - but the dhcp server is down but link is up (such as "router/dhcp lost power, but the switch is OK" scenario), it takes a while before this condition is detected (and thankfully, it is reported - instead of just hanging on the "welcome" screen as i have witnessed windows do). No problem, or anything new so far. But: It seems like it then tries to ping something - but an error message is printed to rhgb: "could not create ICMP socket - denied" (i am writing from memory here...) - could this be related to SELinux? Can anybody confirm? My knowledge of SELinux is very small. Kyrre Ness Sj?b?k From buildsys at redhat.com Mon May 16 12:09:23 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:09:23 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes Message-ID: <200505161209.j4GC9NMH019930@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: From kapointer at charter.net Mon May 16 12:09:21 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:09:21 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516020009.7234A416118@ws5-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516020009.7234A416118@ws5-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1116245361.11730.2.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 10:00 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > NO FOOT IN MY MOUTH! > > I have done ALL you've listed. > > If you would have read all my posts, you would have realized this. > > THX for your insight. > First of all, I would like to note the lack of maturity your last post had. And second of all, if you want a stable operating system that you don't want problems with, don't use a test release. Or, use RHEL. Don't whine about it in here. -- kyle From kapointer at charter.net Mon May 16 12:17:05 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:17:05 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <1116218332.13483.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> <1116218332.13483.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116245825.11730.7.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> > I downloaded and burned it three MORE seperate times > and it failed every single time!!! Definition of stupidity - Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. He needs to understand. Listen to the words of the Jargon file. ( I probably got the names wrong ) "One day, Bill was working with an old lisp machine. He was power cycling it trying to get it to work. He did this over and over again to no avail. Then Bob came over and said, "Bill you cannot fix a problem without understanding it. Therefore power cycling the computer will do you more harm than good." Then Bob rebooted the computer... And it worked." -- kyle From kapointer at charter.net Mon May 16 12:18:00 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:18:00 -0500 Subject: Hi all!! In-Reply-To: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> References: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> Message-ID: <1116245880.11730.9.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 21:55 -0700, Jared Buck wrote: > How's everyone? I was excited to try out the rest3 version of FC4, it > installed flawlessly on my machine, and so far have not been > experiencing any problems except for when up2date freezes when it says > it's gathering a list of packages on my machine. I read the messages > and apparently it's a common bug everyone's experiencing so I'm not > too worried about it. I'm using yum update instead and that works > fine. > > I like all the new features, but it did take me a little bit to get > used to where the configuration options are now (like add/remove > packages, etc), but they're in a much more logical position now than > they were before. Also love all the stuff that comes with KDE now, > there's a ton of stuff I have yet to try out :) > > I've done beta testing before (I'm doing that now for an online game) > so I know to expect bugs and glitches, but aside from the bug I've > mentioned, test3's been working very well for me. > > Jared Buck > Crestline, CA I like it so much better when they have something nice to say. :) -- kyle From kapointer at charter.net Mon May 16 12:21:30 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:21:30 -0500 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <6c3f5e6c05051603187a5d22ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050516033814.33DEF23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <6c3f5e6c05051603187a5d22ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116246090.11730.13.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 06:18 -0400, gb spam wrote: > > THEY ARE BAD DOWNLOADS > > bad downloads can easily be proved with qemu: > > qemu -cdrom the-first-boot-disk.iso -boot d > > if that boots, then it isn't the download. > if that works, you can eliminate it being the cd's you're burning with > > qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d > > nb: replace /dev/cdrom with whatever is appropriate > > if you don't have qemu, then: > > wget http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-0.7.0.tar.gz > tar zxvf qemu-0.7.0.tar.gz > cd qemu-0.7.0 > ./configure > make > make install > > (ironically, these compilation instructions won't work on fc4t[1-3], > you'll have to use the older (supplied) version of gcc) > > I don't want to be rude or anything, but trying to use qemu to verify download integrity might not be the "best" idea, but only because if an ISO has a booboo later in the file then if its a boot-able CD it probably will work fine tell later. :) And you CAN use qemu on FC4T* but you have to specify that you want it to use gcc32 instead of just gcc ( with is gcc 4 ). :) -- kyle From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 16 12:41:56 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:41:56 +0200 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <1116241700.5183.77.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> <1116241700.5183.77.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <42889514.2040609@gmx.de> Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: >I'll try suggesting this one more time... After downloading the SHA1SUM >file from the same repository you got your ISO files, run: > > $ sha1sum -c SHA1SUM > >and tell us the result. > and what if he tried to boot from the SRPMS-disc-1 or he has burned the iso-file as single file? what is the name of his "number one disk to boot" iso ? $ ls /media/cdrom could be helpfull. ronny strenger is a "very computer literate" he is working under "suse9.3" he has "tried 2 dozen other linux distros" ... i personaly would call him a linux expert ;-) apropos, i do no understand why you suggest to dowload all 10 isos? FC4-test3--disc1.iso is enough for some installations. $ LANG=C sha1sum -c SHA1SUM sha1sum: FC4-test3-i386-DVD.iso: No such file or directory FC4-test3-i386-DVD.iso: FAILED open or read sha1sum: FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc1.iso: No such file or directory FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc1.iso: FAILED open or read sha1sum: FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc2.iso: No such file or directory FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc2.iso: FAILED open or read sha1sum: FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc3.iso: No such file or directory FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc3.iso: FAILED open or read sha1sum: FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc4.iso: No such file or directory FC4-test3-i386-SRPMS-disc4.iso: FAILED open or read FC4-test3-i386-disc1.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-disc2.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-disc3.iso: OK FC4-test3-i386-disc4.iso: OK sha1sum: FC4-test3-i386-rescuecd.iso: No such file or directory FC4-test3-i386-rescuecd.iso: FAILED open or read sha1sum: WARNING: 6 of 10 listed files could not be read -- shrek-m From byte at aeon.com.my Mon May 16 13:16:12 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:16:12 +1000 Subject: No video for text virtual consoles on FC4t3 ppc In-Reply-To: <42838210.20502@BitWagon.com> References: <4282618C.7020403@BitWagon.com> <1115885706.4525.80.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> <42838210.20502@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <1116249372.4564.164.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 09:19 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > > Hmm, provide more information about the monitor please; I have a > similar > > setup, and it seems to work just well > > Monitor is ViewSonic A50. From /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > (II) RADEON(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-56.00 kHz > (II) RADEON(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-120.00 Hz > (**) RADEON(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz > (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 > 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync > (**) RADEON(0): *Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 > 604 631 +hsync +vsync > (**) RADEON(0): *Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480" 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 > 484 509 -hsync -vsync > (**) RADEON(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz > > xrandr says 1024x768 @70Hz, 16-bit (65536) colors Its entered bugzilla now I think (seeing that you opened up tickets both in RH Bugzilla and fd.o bugzilla) Lets try resolve it there -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon May 16 13:29:20 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:29:20 +0200 Subject: No sound In-Reply-To: <1116219389.24774.2.camel@tiger> References: <1116219389.24774.2.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <1116250159.3353.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> man, 16.05.2005 kl. 06.56 skrev Louis Garcia: > I have no sound with FC4T3 and Creative Labs live EMU10k1. Use to work > with FC3. > > > -Louis report a bug against kernel (or maybe alsa-lib?), severity "regression". bugzilla.redhat.com From pjones at redhat.com Mon May 16 14:04:27 2005 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:04:27 -0400 Subject: anaconda crash on Dell Precision 370 In-Reply-To: <200505131629.09482.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> References: <200505131141.53333.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> <200505131157.31612.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> <200505131629.09482.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> Message-ID: <1116252267.9888.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Are you really sure you're using a proper test 3 tree, rather than test 2? AFAIK, this: > <3>audit(1116033649.581:0): avc: denied { transition } for path=/usr/sbin/libgcc_post_upgrade dev=dm-0 ino=17072409 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:unconfined_t tclass=process > <6>libgcc_post_upg[747]: segfault at ffffffffffffffd0 rip 00000000004004d3 rsp 00007fffffddbd18 error 6 Was fixed before test3 went out. After that, all bets are off. Though frankly, I'd run memtest86 on the box, and make sure your boot.iso CD is good as well. -- Peter From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 16 14:11:20 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:20 +0200 Subject: Using Sun's JRE 1.5.0-3 next to java-1.4.2-gcj? Message-ID: <1116252680.3762.7.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Hi all, Apps like Azureus, Ganttchart and CentricCRM won't run (yet) with jre-1.4.2-gcj so I would like to use Sun's JRE 1.5.0-3. Anyone have a suggestion how I can force those apps to use Sun's JRE installed in e.g. /opt/java. Setting PATH=/opt/java:$PATH and JAVA_HOME=/opt/java doesn't work. Thanks and regards, Patrick From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Mon May 16 14:08:08 2005 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:08:08 -0600 Subject: No sound In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 May 2005 00:56:29 EDT." <1116219389.24774.2.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <20050516140808.10820.qmail@lwn.net> Louis Garcia wrote: > I have no sound with FC4T3 and Creative Labs live EMU10k1. Use to work > with FC3. Just FWIW, I'm seeing something like this too. Sound from the CD drive (through the direct analog cable) works and is controllable with the mixer, so the SBLive isn't completely out to lunch. But nothing fed via PCM is audible. I've been trying, in my copious spare time, to figure out if this is a kernel problem or what, but haven't gotten very far yet. jon Jonathan Corbet Executive editor, LWN.net corbet at lwn.net From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 16 14:42:31 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:42:31 +0200 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1116254551.3171.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 11:24 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > I downloaded and burned it three MORE seperate times > and it failed every single time!!! > > I guess Fedora isn't for me. I am NOT wasting anymore > disks! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > Subject: Re: HUH? > Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:06:16 -0500 > > > > > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 09:28 +0800, Ronny Strenger wrote: > > > To be honest... I've had more trouble with Fedora than any other distro > > > I've tried! And I have tried 2 dozen others. > > > > > > I do not see as to HOW Fedora stays at the ranking it does on > > > Distrowatches list! > > > > Ronny, > > > > Editorials aside, what was the result of your sha1sum run? > > > > -- Doc > > Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL > > Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p > > "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." > > -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org > This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. > > Powered by Outblaze > On a related note, how can I get evolution to ignore a thread? From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 16 14:45:11 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:45:11 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <200505161209.j4GC9NMH019930@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505161209.j4GC9NMH019930@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116254711.3171.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 08:09 -0400, Build System wrote: > > > Updated Packages: > > Any chance this can be fixed so that it says "No package changes today" or something? With an almost blank e-mail like this it's not possible to tell the difference between an error and "no package changes". From WormLineFiles at gmx.de Mon May 16 13:47:16 2005 From: WormLineFiles at gmx.de (Simon Lanzmich) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:47:16 +0200 Subject: No sound In-Reply-To: <1116219389.24774.2.camel@tiger> References: <1116219389.24774.2.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <1116251236.31824.8.camel@simon.home> Hi, I have an Creative Labs SB Audigy 2 which also uses the emu10k1 and it did not work out of the box. After changing some of the mixer settings, all was fine. Have you checked all the mixer channels? (there are quite a lot, you may want to use alsamixer) Simon Am Montag, den 16.05.2005, 00:56 -0400 schrieb Louis Garcia: > I have no sound with FC4T3 and Creative Labs live EMU10k1. Use to work > with FC3. > > > -Louis From RouillardSy at yahoo.fr Mon May 16 14:52:16 2005 From: RouillardSy at yahoo.fr (Sylvain Rouillard) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:52:16 +0200 Subject: Using Sun's JRE 1.5.0-3 next to java-1.4.2-gcj? In-Reply-To: <1116252680.3762.7.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1116252680.3762.7.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <200505161652.16674.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> For the other apps, I don't know, but for azureus, I simply edit the azureus script that is in my azureus installation folder, and I change the JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR so that it points where the java libs are (JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="/usr/java/jre1.5.0_03/bin/" in my case). HTH Sylvain Le Lundi 16 Mai 2005 16:11, Patrick a ?crit?: > Hi all, > > Apps like Azureus, Ganttchart and CentricCRM won't run (yet) with > jre-1.4.2-gcj so I would like to use Sun's JRE 1.5.0-3. Anyone have a > suggestion how I can force those apps to use Sun's JRE installed in > e.g. /opt/java. Setting PATH=/opt/java:$PATH and JAVA_HOME=/opt/java > doesn't work. > > Thanks and regards, > Patrick From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 16 14:54:10 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:54:10 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <1116254711.3171.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200505161209.j4GC9NMH019930@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1116254711.3171.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa791050516075420e9a8a7@mail.gmail.com> On 5/16/05, nodata wrote: > Any chance this can be fixed so that it says "No package changes today" > or something? > > With an almost blank e-mail like this it's not possible to tell the > difference between an error and "no package changes". I was assuming the blank reports like this are indicative of some sort of error. From mefoster at gmail.com Mon May 16 14:57:20 2005 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:57:20 +0100 Subject: Using Sun's JRE 1.5.0-3 next to java-1.4.2-gcj? In-Reply-To: <1116252680.3762.7.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1116252680.3762.7.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: On 5/16/05, Patrick wrote: > Apps like Azureus, Ganttchart and CentricCRM won't run (yet) with > jre-1.4.2-gcj so I would like to use Sun's JRE 1.5.0-3. Anyone have a > suggestion how I can force those apps to use Sun's JRE installed in > e.g. /opt/java. Setting PATH=/opt/java:$PATH and JAVA_HOME=/opt/java > doesn't work. You should try rebuilding the Jpackage "nosrc" rpm of the Sun JRE and installing that, instead of using the JRE directly -- instructions at http://www.jpackage.org/rebuilding.php Once you've done that, you can change where the "alternatives" link for java as follows (as root): /usr/sbin/alternatives --set java /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.5.0-sun/bin/java Then "/usr/bin/java" will be the Sun JRE, and all your apps should use it by default. There's no GUI config tool for alternatives, is there; it would be nice ... MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 16 15:13:47 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:47 +0200 Subject: Using Sun's JRE 1.5.0-3 next to java-1.4.2-gcj? In-Reply-To: <200505161652.16674.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> References: <1116252680.3762.7.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <200505161652.16674.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <1116256427.3762.9.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 16:52 +0200, Sylvain Rouillard wrote: > For the other apps, I don't know, but for azureus, I simply edit the azureus > script that is in my azureus installation folder, and I change the > JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR so that it points where the java libs are > (JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="/usr/java/jre1.5.0_03/bin/" in my case). Thanks, that did the trick for Ganttchart and Azureus to start with. Regards, Patrick From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 16 15:14:07 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:14:07 +0200 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <1116254551.3171.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050516032413.2CE9123D02@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> <1116254551.3171.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4288B8BF.2000104@gmx.de> nodata wrote: >On a related note, how can I get evolution to ignore a thread? > tools / filter -- shrek-m From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 16 15:22:27 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:22:27 +0200 Subject: Using Sun's JRE 1.5.0-3 next to java-1.4.2-gcj? In-Reply-To: References: <1116252680.3762.7.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1116256947.3762.17.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 15:57 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: [snip] > Then "/usr/bin/java" will be the Sun JRE, and all your apps should use > it by default. [snip] My goal was to use Sun's JRE for the apps that won't work with java-1.4.2-gcj (admittedly so far 100%). Silvain's tip does exactly that so I've used it. Nevertheless thanks for your answer. If I want to totally switch over to Sun's JRE I will definitely use your advice. Regards, Patrick From paul at dishone.st Mon May 16 15:32:16 2005 From: paul at dishone.st (Paul Jakma) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:32:16 +0100 (IST) Subject: xen and dom0 'mount by LABEL' dangerous? Message-ID: Hi, FC sets up fstab to mount by extX label. What happens if you run Xen, 'delegate' devices (eg LVM LV's) to a domU and the {malicious,clueless} domU administrator does: e2label /dev/hda1 / e2label /dev/hda2 /usr Potential for confusion next time dom0 boots up, no? Does this mean dom0 fstab should be converted to specify actual devices? If so, should be documented somewhere at least, no? :) Another solution would be to assign LV's to domU's as 'whole disks'. dom0 partition scanning wont be run on LV's, so no chance of e2label's getting confused afaict - however it appears XenU vbd isnt able to recognise partitions on 'whole disks' correctly unfortunately (i've opened a bug with upstream). regards, -- Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie paul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortune: Sometimes you get an almost irresistible urge to go on living. From fedora at leemhuis.info Mon May 16 16:10:05 2005 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:10:05 +0200 Subject: via module for x86_64 FC4 In-Reply-To: <1116238982.24594.50.camel@ldesk.linnet.int> References: <1116238982.24594.50.camel@ldesk.linnet.int> Message-ID: <1116259806.5439.2.camel@notebook.thl.home> Am Montag, den 16.05.2005, 11:23 +0100 schrieb Andrew Gray: > Will there be a x86_64 "via" module for Xorg in the final FC4 release or > am I missing something and it already exists. if so where? [...] > Any news would be helpful about video modules in x86_64 FC4 Probably not: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=138825 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1973 -- Thorsten Leemhuis From ignitionworks at yahoo.com Mon May 16 16:08:03 2005 From: ignitionworks at yahoo.com (IgnitionWorks) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050516160803.45541.qmail@web54407.mail.yahoo.com> > > I was assuming the blank reports like this are > indicative of some sort of error. > >From my observation of blank 'updated packages', I mostly see it on the weekends which could mean that no packages were released on the weekends. The build system is probably on cron to send out emails. Josh __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From paolini at dmf.unicatt.it Mon May 16 16:15:00 2005 From: paolini at dmf.unicatt.it (Maurizio Paolini) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:15:00 +0200 Subject: no python scripting support for kig in kdeedu (FC4T2) Message-ID: <20050516161500.GA5912@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> Hi all, I am new to this list; I browsed the archive and I think this problem was not already discussed, so here I am. As a co-author of kig I tried to test the "kig" version included in the kdeedu rpm of fedora core 4 test 2 (3.91). I think the problem is the same in the new test 3, since the name of the kdeedu rpm file bears exactly the same version and release number. Anyway, what I found is that the "python scripting" support of kig is completely missing, which is quite unfortunate. python scripting depends on the presence of 'boost' and 'boost-devel' packages; the latter is needed when compiling kig from source. Unfortunately the 'boost-devel' libraries included in fc4 seem to be incompatible with 'compat-gcc-32-c++' and 'compat-libstdc++-33' since the result is a number of 'undefined symbols' at link time. The official gcc compiler (4.0.0) of fc4 seems not good for compiling kde in general and kdeedu/kig in particular. Version 3.4.2 of gcc and g++ seems OK, but unfortunately it is not part of fc4 :-( I have a 'dirty' solution which allows me to build a working rpm package for kig (with scripting support). So, first question: whom should I contact in order to discuss this problem? Is this mailing list the appropriate place? Second question: are we still in time for solving the problem before the official fc4 release? Thanks in advance, Maurizio Paolini From johnp at redhat.com Mon May 16 15:24:01 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:24:01 -0400 Subject: no python scripting support for kig in kdeedu (FC4T2) In-Reply-To: <20050516161500.GA5912@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> References: <20050516161500.GA5912@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> Message-ID: <1116257041.5743.5.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:15 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > > I have a 'dirty' solution which allows me to build a working rpm > package for kig (with scripting support). > > So, first question: whom should I contact in order to discuss this > problem? Is this mailing list the appropriate place? File a bug against kig and it should get to the proper maintainer. > Second question: are we still in time for solving the problem > before the official fc4 release? Quick answer is most likely not but it is up to the maintainer and release team. It has better chance of getting out as an update. Rule of thumb is you have a better chance of getting it fixed if it is reported in Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.redhat.com). As always the sooner the better. Thanks. -- J5 From petr.fischer at praguesoft.cz Mon May 16 16:27:50 2005 From: petr.fischer at praguesoft.cz (Petr Fischer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:27:50 +0200 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? Message-ID: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Hi, Cyrus IMAPd is removed from FC4??? ___WHY___??? It is irreplaceable. I am totaly confused about this distro now. Thanks, Petr Fischer From paolini at dmf.unicatt.it Mon May 16 16:34:37 2005 From: paolini at dmf.unicatt.it (Maurizio Paolini) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:34:37 +0200 Subject: no python scripting support for kig in kdeedu (FC4T2) In-Reply-To: <1116257041.5743.5.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> References: <20050516161500.GA5912@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116257041.5743.5.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050516163437.GC7253@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:24:01AM -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:15 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > > > > I have a 'dirty' solution which allows me to build a working rpm > > package for kig (with scripting support). > > > > So, first question: whom should I contact in order to discuss this > > problem? Is this mailing list the appropriate place? > > File a bug against kig and it should get to the proper maintainer. Let me be clear about this: it is *not* a problem with kig! everything works fine as soon as the proper gcc compiler is used and the correct version of libboost is present. This is rather a problem in the combination of these factors as present in fc4. This is the reason why I am using this mailing list. > Rule of thumb is you have a better chance of getting it fixed if it is > reported in Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.redhat.com). As always the sooner > the better. Thanks. Thank you for the advice. I created an account for bugzilla, but I am still waiting for the confirmation email. Regards, Maurizio Paolini From jdennis at redhat.com Mon May 16 16:36:44 2005 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:36:44 -0400 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Message-ID: <1116261404.23932.6.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:27 +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > Hi, > > Cyrus IMAPd is removed from FC4??? ___WHY___??? > It is irreplaceable. > > I am totaly confused about this distro now. It's in extras now. You should be able to install it via yum very easily (yum comes configured with the extras repository). The reason it was removed was because core contains dovecot and the reasoning was core should only have 1 imap server and it should be the one that is simpler to set up and maintain. One could take issue with this reasoning, there are multiple points of view on the topic, all are valid and subject to review. FWIW, I plan on updating extras with a web-cryadm sometime in the next few days which will help with the administration of cyrus-imapd. -- John Dennis From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Mon May 16 16:39:33 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:39:33 -0400 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Message-ID: <1116261574.14152.13.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:27 +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > Cyrus IMAPd is removed from FC4??? ___WHY___??? So that the whole distro doesn't end up filling multiple DVDs eventually. > It is irreplaceable. Feel free to install it from Fedora Extras. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dcasey at the-caseys.com Mon May 16 16:42:51 2005 From: dcasey at the-caseys.com (Don Casey) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Message-ID: <56867.204.215.252.254.1116261771.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> > Hi, > > Cyrus IMAPd is removed from FC4??? ___WHY___??? > It is irreplaceable. > > I am totaly confused about this distro now. > > Thanks, Petr Fischer > Ignocio and John, If the comunity would like to have Cyrus-imapd as part of the distro would it not be put back in. My main use of Fedora is as mail servers and I like the customization that is available with Cyrus. I would understand switching to Dovecot if only it were a completed project with 1.0 and there dovecot-sasl. Thanx, Don From johnp at redhat.com Mon May 16 15:47:17 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:47:17 -0400 Subject: no python scripting support for kig in kdeedu (FC4T2) In-Reply-To: <20050516163437.GC7253@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> References: <20050516161500.GA5912@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116257041.5743.5.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> <20050516163437.GC7253@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> Message-ID: <1116258437.5743.18.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:34 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:24:01AM -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:15 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > > > > > > I have a 'dirty' solution which allows me to build a working rpm > > > package for kig (with scripting support). > > > > > > So, first question: whom should I contact in order to discuss this > > > problem? Is this mailing list the appropriate place? > > > > File a bug against kig and it should get to the proper maintainer. > > Let me be clear about this: it is *not* a problem with kig! > everything works fine as soon as the proper gcc compiler is used > and the correct version of libboost is present. This is rather > a problem in the combination of these factors as present in fc4. > This is the reason why I am using this mailing list. Yes, but it is a "bug" with the packaging so a perfectly valid use of redhat/fedora bugzilla. The point is it directs it to the person who is most able to deal with the situation. The list is a fine place to post this sort of stuff also but in your case it seems something that needs to be brought to the attention of the maintainer. The real fix is to get KDE building with GCC 4.0 as soon as feasible but it is understandable what a huge task that is. In any case there is no harm in both filing a bug and posting here. All that being said it is nice to see upstream developers taking an interest in getting their packages working at top capacity in fedora. Cheers, J5 From petr.fischer at praguesoft.cz Mon May 16 16:49:50 2005 From: petr.fischer at praguesoft.cz (Petr Fischer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:49:50 +0200 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <1116261404.23932.6.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <1116261404.23932.6.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116262190.5666.16.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Ok. I see. Thanks for answer - I am easy now. Will be Cyrus-IMAPd supported in Extras for longer time - not only for FC4? pf John Dennis p??e v Po 16. 05. 2005 v 12:36 -0400: > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:27 +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Cyrus IMAPd is removed from FC4??? ___WHY___??? > > It is irreplaceable. > > > > I am totaly confused about this distro now. > > It's in extras now. You should be able to install it via yum very easily > (yum comes configured with the extras repository). The reason it was > removed was because core contains dovecot and the reasoning was core > should only have 1 imap server and it should be the one that is simpler > to set up and maintain. One could take issue with this reasoning, there > are multiple points of view on the topic, all are valid and subject to > review. > > FWIW, I plan on updating extras with a web-cryadm sometime in the next > few days which will help with the administration of cyrus-imapd. > > -- > John Dennis > From notting at redhat.com Mon May 16 16:51:36 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:51:36 -0400 Subject: Bringing interfaces up at boot and SElinux (?) In-Reply-To: <1116243381.3353.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116243381.3353.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050516165136.GB5733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Kyrre Ness Sjobak (kyrre at solution-forge.net) said: > But: It seems like it then tries to ping something - but an error > message is printed to rhgb: "could not create ICMP socket - denied" (i > am writing from memory here...) - could this be related to SELinux? Can > anybody confirm? My knowledge of SELinux is very small. The error is probably from SELinux; there's a ping in /sbin/dhclient-script when it times out. Bill From notting at redhat.com Mon May 16 16:52:26 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:52:26 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <20050516160803.45541.qmail@web54407.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050516160803.45541.qmail@web54407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050516165226.GC5733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> IgnitionWorks (ignitionworks at yahoo.com) said: > >From my observation of blank 'updated packages', I > mostly see it on the weekends which could mean that no > packages were released on the weekends. The build > system is probably on cron to send out emails. Correct. Bill > From jdennis at redhat.com Mon May 16 16:53:16 2005 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:53:16 -0400 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <56867.204.215.252.254.1116261771.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <56867.204.215.252.254.1116261771.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> Message-ID: <1116262396.23932.13.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 12:42 -0400, Don Casey wrote: > If the comunity would like to have Cyrus-imapd as part of the distro > would it not be put back in. My main use of Fedora is as mail servers and > I like the customization that is available with Cyrus. I would understand > switching to Dovecot if only it were a completed project with 1.0 and > there dovecot-sasl. Just so I understand your perspective and the consequences of the decision to move it from core to extras may I ask you if its location in extras vs. core a burden or impediment to your use of cyrus-imapd? It's still there, it's still supported, it's just in a different repository. If you would like to present a rational for moving it back to core I will be an advocate for you, but the rational at the moment has to be more than "I dislike its location" for your argument to carry weight. Fair enough? -- John Dennis From alan at redhat.com Mon May 16 16:53:58 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:53:58 -0400 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Message-ID: <20050516165358.GA14475@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:27:50PM +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > Cyrus IMAPd is removed from FC4??? ___WHY___??? > It is irreplaceable. See the previous discussions in the archive. Its moving to extras because most generic setups would use dovecot From johnp at redhat.com Mon May 16 15:53:25 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:53:25 -0400 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <56867.204.215.252.254.1116261771.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <56867.204.215.252.254.1116261771.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> Message-ID: <1116258805.5743.23.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 12:42 -0400, Don Casey wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Cyrus IMAPd is removed from FC4??? ___WHY___??? > > It is irreplaceable. > > > > I am totaly confused about this distro now. > > > > Thanks, Petr Fischer > > > > Ignocio and John, > > If the comunity would like to have Cyrus-imapd as part of the distro > would it not be put back in. My main use of Fedora is as mail servers and > I like the customization that is available with Cyrus. I would understand > switching to Dovecot if only it were a completed project with 1.0 and > there dovecot-sasl. It is in extras which for all intents and purposes just means it is not on the Core install CD/DVD's. Extras is a main part of the Fedora project and not a second class citizen. It is just that we had to choose defaults to keep the core CD/DVD's small, and in this case Dovecot won out. All one needs to do is yum install Cyrus-imapd to get it. -- J5 From petr.fischer at praguesoft.cz Mon May 16 16:58:47 2005 From: petr.fischer at praguesoft.cz (Petr Fischer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:58:47 +0200 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <20050516165358.GA14475@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <20050516165358.GA14475@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116262727.5666.20.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Hi Alan, I tried search fedora-test-list archives (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/) for keyword "cyrus", but nothing relevant resulted. pf Alan Cox p??e v Po 16. 05. 2005 v 12:53 -0400: > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:27:50PM +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > > Cyrus IMAPd is removed from FC4??? ___WHY___??? > > It is irreplaceable. > > See the previous discussions in the archive. Its moving to extras because most > generic setups would use dovecot > From jdennis at redhat.com Mon May 16 16:59:51 2005 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:59:51 -0400 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <1116262190.5666.16.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <1116261404.23932.6.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1116262190.5666.16.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Message-ID: <1116262791.23932.20.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:49 +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > Ok. I see. Thanks for answer - I am easy now. > > Will be Cyrus-IMAPd supported in Extras for longer time - not only for > FC4? The current plan is to support it in extras. It's currently part of RHEL so there is a strong argument to continue to support it in Fedora. If for some reason Red Hat decides not to support it in extras then several kind people in the community have already volunteered to support it in extras. My expectation is you need not worry about it's inclusion in Fedora in one form or another. -- John Dennis From johnp at redhat.com Mon May 16 17:00:45 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:00:45 -0400 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <1116262727.5666.20.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <20050516165358.GA14475@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1116262727.5666.20.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Message-ID: <1116262845.5743.26.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:58 +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > Hi Alan, > > I tried search fedora-test-list archives > (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/) for keyword "cyrus", > but nothing relevant resulted. > > pf Try fedora-devel-list > > Alan Cox p??e v Po 16. 05. 2005 v 12:53 -0400: > > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:27:50PM +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > > > Cyrus IMAPd is removed from FC4??? ___WHY___??? > > > It is irreplaceable. > > > > See the previous discussions in the archive. Its moving to extras because most > > generic setups would use dovecot > > > From dcasey at the-caseys.com Mon May 16 17:09:32 2005 From: dcasey at the-caseys.com (Don Casey) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <1116262396.23932.13.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <56867.204.215.252.254.1116261771.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> <1116262396.23932.13.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <56928.204.215.252.254.1116263372.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 12:42 -0400, Don Casey wrote: >> If the comunity would like to have Cyrus-imapd as part of the distro >> would it not be put back in. My main use of Fedora is as mail servers >> and >> I like the customization that is available with Cyrus. I would >> understand >> switching to Dovecot if only it were a completed project with 1.0 and >> there dovecot-sasl. > > Just so I understand your perspective and the consequences of the > decision to move it from core to extras may I ask you if its location in > extras vs. core a burden or impediment to your use of cyrus-imapd? It's > still there, it's still supported, it's just in a different repository. > If you would like to present a rational for moving it back to core I > will be an advocate for you, but the rational at the moment has to be > more than "I dislike its location" for your argument to carry weight. > Fair enough? > -- > John Dennis > > -- Wow John, I did not think I would get flamed for asking such a general question. My reason for asking is that when I am installing a new server I would prefer to have the packages that I use on the install CD or DVD. I understand that I can go out and get the packages and include this as part of my extras install. I would just like to see that Cyrus be maintained as a standard package. By the other responses that were sent out it looks as though the extras will not get left behind, this I am thankfull for. When Dovecot gets their sasl out and has a complete package I will also experiment with it as well. Since we are still in the test phase of Core4 and Dovecot is in the beta of 1.0, why is it not part of the install? Just to clarify, I do not mean to disrespect anyone by asking questions. Just would like the info. Thanx, Don From jdennis at redhat.com Mon May 16 17:33:56 2005 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:33:56 -0400 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <56928.204.215.252.254.1116263372.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <56867.204.215.252.254.1116261771.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> <1116262396.23932.13.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <56928.204.215.252.254.1116263372.squirrel@www.the-caseys.com> Message-ID: <1116264836.23932.38.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 13:09 -0400, Don Casey wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 12:42 -0400, Don Casey wrote: > >> If the comunity would like to have Cyrus-imapd as part of the distro > >> would it not be put back in. My main use of Fedora is as mail servers > >> and > >> I like the customization that is available with Cyrus. I would > >> understand > >> switching to Dovecot if only it were a completed project with 1.0 and > >> there dovecot-sasl. > > > > Just so I understand your perspective and the consequences of the > > decision to move it from core to extras may I ask you if its location in > > extras vs. core a burden or impediment to your use of cyrus-imapd? It's > > still there, it's still supported, it's just in a different repository. > > If you would like to present a rational for moving it back to core I > > will be an advocate for you, but the rational at the moment has to be > > more than "I dislike its location" for your argument to carry weight. > > Fair enough? > > -- > > John Dennis > > > > -- > Wow John, > > I did not think I would get flamed for asking such a general question. Argh... email is so open to misinterpretation. It wasn't meant to be a flame, rather an offer to help if the decision was creating problems for you. FWIW, the topic has been hashed out previously. > When Dovecot gets their sasl out and has a complete > package I will also experiment with it as well. > Since we are still in the test phase of Core4 and Dovecot is in the beta > of 1.0, why is it not part of the install? The 0.99.14 version of dovecot was included in Fedora Core 4 because at the time FC4 was entering the test phase that was the stable version. In the last few days a new stable version was announced, but it's way too late in the FC4 release schedule to introduce a completely new version of a package, FC4 is effectively frozen. We might have considered including the new version had it appeared much earlier in the FC4 test phase. -- John Dennis From paolini at dmf.unicatt.it Mon May 16 17:35:50 2005 From: paolini at dmf.unicatt.it (Maurizio Paolini) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:35:50 +0200 Subject: no python scripting support for kig in kdeedu (FC4T2) In-Reply-To: <1116258437.5743.18.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> References: <20050516161500.GA5912@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116257041.5743.5.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> <20050516163437.GC7253@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116258437.5743.18.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050516173550.GA12486@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:47:17AM -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:34 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > > > > Let me be clear about this: it is *not* a problem with kig! > > everything works fine as soon as the proper gcc compiler is used > > and the correct version of libboost is present. This is rather > > a problem in the combination of these factors as present in fc4. > > This is the reason why I am using this mailing list. > > Yes, but it is a "bug" with the packaging so a perfectly valid use of > redhat/fedora bugzilla. >[...] Thank you for your support! I will file a bug report as soon as I receive the confirmation email for my account with bugzilla, which still I didn't receive :-( btw, I guess I should open an account to be able to post a bug report with bugzilla, is it right? > to be brought to the attention of the maintainer. The real fix is to > get KDE building with GCC 4.0 as soon as feasible but it is > understandable what a huge task that is. In any case there is no harm > in both filing a bug and posting here. All that being said it is nice > to see upstream developers taking an interest in getting their packages > working at top capacity in fedora. Thank you. Cheers, Maurizio Paolini From aoliva at redhat.com Mon May 16 18:16:05 2005 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 16 May 2005 15:16:05 -0300 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On May 15, 2005, "Ronny Strenger" wrote: > I have tried downloading Fedora 4 test3 several times and I, for the life of me, cannot get the number one disk to boot! > What COULD I be doing wrong?? Using a bad kernel to burn the FC4T3 CDs? I remember one of the last few kernels before we froze for FC4T3 wouldn't burn CDs correctly. If you'd been tracking rawhide and then decided to burn FC4T3 with the one- or two-before-FC4T3 kernel, you might be running into this problem. Try updating the kernel and booting into it, and you might have better luck burning a bootable CD. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From alan at redhat.com Mon May 16 18:19:03 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:19:03 -0400 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <1116262727.5666.20.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <20050516165358.GA14475@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1116262727.5666.20.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> Message-ID: <20050516181903.GB20585@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:58:47PM +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > Hi Alan, > > I tried search fedora-test-list archives > (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/) for keyword "cyrus", > but nothing relevant resulted. fedora-devel I believe. Rough summary - We didn't have enough DVD space - Cyrus is used mostly in bigger sites and requires setup - Dovecot just works for small setups and is integrated well with standard mail So it seemed that cyrus users would be more than smart enough to use extras, especially as extras is now much more integrated than in FC1-3 From kewley at gps.caltech.edu Mon May 16 18:27:14 2005 From: kewley at gps.caltech.edu (David Kewley) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:27:14 -0700 Subject: anaconda crash on Dell Precision 370 In-Reply-To: <1116252267.9888.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200505131141.53333.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> <200505131629.09482.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> <1116252267.9888.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200505161127.14257.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> On Monday 16 May 2005 07:04, Peter Jones wrote: > Are you really sure you're using a proper test 3 tree, rather than > test > > 2? AFAIK, this: > > <3>audit(1116033649.581:0): avc: denied { transition } for > > path=/usr/sbin/libgcc_post_upgrade dev=dm-0 ino=17072409 > > scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t > > tcontext=system_u:system_r:unconfined_t tclass=process > > <6>libgcc_post_upg[747]: segfault at ffffffffffffffd0 rip > > 00000000004004d3 rsp 00007fffffddbd18 error 6 > > Was fixed before test3 went out. > > After that, all bets are off. Though frankly, I'd run memtest86 on > the box, and make sure your boot.iso CD is good as well. Thanks for the reply, Peter. :) After getting no replies for a while, I gave up on this thread and filed a bug (the right thing to do in any case). Probably all future discussion should happen there. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157729 Here are a few summary tidbits from the bug report: Yup, this is FC4t3, and yup, I did 18 minutes of memtest86 with no errors. The NFS install always crashed for me, while a DVD install burned from the same DVD image succeeded. FC3 failed in nearly the same way on this machine, with this FC2 NFS server. The failure appears to involve cramfs's inability to decompress blocks from stage2.img *after* all the rpms have been installed on the target machine. It worked with stage2.img just fine at the beginning of the install. The eventual crash is a segfault of the child anaconda process and an illegal instruction by the parent anaconda. loader (or init?) then gives an "Install exited abnormally" error right before shutting down. I did forget to point out the avc denied's in the bug report -- should I submit another report for that? David From a.kurtz at hardsun.net Mon May 16 19:19:19 2005 From: a.kurtz at hardsun.net (Aaron Kurtz) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:19:19 -0700 Subject: No sound In-Reply-To: <1116251236.31824.8.camel@simon.home> References: <1116219389.24774.2.camel@tiger> <1116251236.31824.8.camel@simon.home> Message-ID: <1116271159.4136.3.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 15:47 +0200, Simon Lanzmich wrote: > Hi, > I have an Creative Labs SB Audigy 2 which also uses the emu10k1 and it > did not work out of the box. > After changing some of the mixer settings, all was fine. Have you > checked all the mixer channels? (there are quite a lot, you may want to > use alsamixer) My Live! Value worked out of the box for FC4t2 but was muted for FC4t3. Audio capture also required changing the mixer settings. Anyone who's having problems really should try all the mixer channels. Some advice can be found on http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=SBliveMixerControls -- Aaron Kurtz From notting at redhat.com Mon May 16 19:24:53 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:24:53 -0400 Subject: No sound In-Reply-To: <20050516140808.10820.qmail@lwn.net> References: <1116219389.24774.2.camel@tiger> <20050516140808.10820.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <20050516192453.GA6756@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Jonathan Corbet (lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net) said: > Louis Garcia wrote: > > > I have no sound with FC4T3 and Creative Labs live EMU10k1. Use to work > > with FC3. > > Just FWIW, I'm seeing something like this too. Sound from the CD drive > (through the direct analog cable) works and is controllable with the > mixer, so the SBLive isn't completely out to lunch. But nothing fed > via PCM is audible. I've been trying, in my copious spare time, to > figure out if this is a kernel problem or what, but haven't gotten very > far yet. Try the 'Wave' mixer control? Got a bug # to pile on to? Bill From fedora at nodata.co.uk Mon May 16 19:28:47 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:28:47 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <20050516165226.GC5733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20050516160803.45541.qmail@web54407.mail.yahoo.com> <20050516165226.GC5733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116271727.2943.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 12:52 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > IgnitionWorks (ignitionworks at yahoo.com) said: > > >From my observation of blank 'updated packages', I > > mostly see it on the weekends which could mean that no > > packages were released on the weekends. The build > > system is probably on cron to send out emails. > > Correct. > > Bill > > > Yes, but my point is that e-mails that looks like something has gone wrong should be fixed, so that when something really does go wrong, we can see, rather than assuming "oh, that funny looking thing means that no packages were updated", and doing a secret handshake. From dmalcolm at redhat.com Mon May 16 19:57:11 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:57:11 -0400 Subject: evolution contacts In-Reply-To: <1115944779.4429.6.camel@tiger> References: <1115944779.4429.6.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <1116273431.7144.38.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 20:39 -0400, Louis Garcia wrote: > Just installed FC4T3 and evolution seemed have lost my contact list from > FC3. I backup my home dir and do a fresh install. I then go back and > copy my data from the backup to the new home dir. With evo I always copy > the addressbook.db and overwrite the new one. This time it did't work. > Could this be s db3 issue? Someone please help!!! Did you copy the addressbook.db before or after running Evolution for the first time in FC4T3 ? From webmanagement at gmail.com Mon May 16 19:57:26 2005 From: webmanagement at gmail.com (Andrew Hudson) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:57:26 +0100 Subject: No more Bluecurve? Message-ID: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> Hi, I finally got round to getting FC4T3 installed onto a machine to play around with it and noticed that Bluecurve is not the default theme, but that Clearlooks seems to have taken its place (as default, anyway). Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining but does this mean that Clearlooks is now the default FC4 theme? Also, I noticed a taskbar button pulsating whilst it was waiting for input - is this a Gnome 2.10 feature or a FC4 tweak? Thanks, Andy From johnp at redhat.com Mon May 16 20:05:08 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:05:08 -0400 Subject: No more Bluecurve? In-Reply-To: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> References: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116273908.5743.38.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 20:57 +0100, Andrew Hudson wrote: > Hi, > > I finally got round to getting FC4T3 installed onto a machine to play > around with it and noticed that Bluecurve is not the default theme, but > that Clearlooks seems to have taken its place (as default, anyway). > Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining but does this mean that > Clearlooks is now the default FC4 theme? We are tracking upstream more closely with Fedora. The default theme will now be Clearlooks. We chose to inherit from the Bluecurve icon theme since it seems to fit better than the current gnome icons that Clearlooks inherits from. The idea is that as Clearlooks gets its own icon set they will supplant the Bluecurve ones. > Also, I noticed a taskbar button pulsating whilst it was waiting for > input - is this a Gnome 2.10 feature or a FC4 tweak? Last minute hack to deal with windows that pop-under to avoid stealing focus (i.e. gaim conversation windows). This should be pushed for 2.12. From nbc at cisco.com Mon May 16 20:11:43 2005 From: nbc at cisco.com (Neil B. Cohen) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:43 -0400 Subject: evolution contacts In-Reply-To: <1116273431.7144.38.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1115944779.4429.6.camel@tiger> <1116273431.7144.38.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116274303.17505.2.camel@nbc-linux.cisco.com> I've had the same problem - I asked about it last week and have not heard anything. If an answer is sent to you and not posted to the list, please let me know too.... thanks, nbc On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 15:57 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 20:39 -0400, Louis Garcia wrote: > > Just installed FC4T3 and evolution seemed have lost my contact list from > > FC3. I backup my home dir and do a fresh install. I then go back and > > copy my data from the backup to the new home dir. With evo I always copy > > the addressbook.db and overwrite the new one. This time it did't work. > > Could this be s db3 issue? Someone please help!!! > > Did you copy the addressbook.db before or after running Evolution for > the first time in FC4T3 ? > From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 16 20:21:58 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:21:58 +0200 Subject: evolution contacts In-Reply-To: <1116273431.7144.38.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1115944779.4429.6.camel@tiger> <1116273431.7144.38.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116274919.3762.26.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 15:57 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 20:39 -0400, Louis Garcia wrote: > > Just installed FC4T3 and evolution seemed have lost my contact list from > > FC3. I backup my home dir and do a fresh install. I then go back and > > copy my data from the backup to the new home dir. With evo I always copy > > the addressbook.db and overwrite the new one. This time it did't work. > > Could this be s db3 issue? Someone please help!!! > > Did you copy the addressbook.db before or after running Evolution for > the first time in FC4T3 ? Works for me. I copied the addressbook.db and addressbook.db.summary from .evolution on a FC3 box to ~/.evolution/addressbook/local/system on a FC4T3 box. Evolution on the FC4T3 box had been started and configured previously. My addresses showed up fine. Regards, Patrick From sopwith at redhat.com Mon May 16 20:21:14 2005 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Raising the bar for FC4 Message-ID: Hi all, Fedora Core 4 public release is currently targeted for Monday, June 6. To hit that, we need some time in advance doing QA and final polishing. For test releases that is usually about a week, but this is the final FC4 release so we need a bit of extra time to do the final steps. This means that Monday, May 23 is the final final freeze for FC4. After that, the bar for accepting changes into FC4 is even higher. Fixes will need to be for showstopper bugs (data corruption, crashing programs, and other things that impact a large percentage of users in a major way). I've sent out reminder e-mails to people who currently own FC4Target and FC4Blocker bugs in bugzilla, so you should know if you have specific bugs to address. If you don't have any bugs to address, you can still help by doing test installs of rawhide. I'll also try to get a few intermediate test trees out for people to install. If the plan needs clarification, please let me know! -- Elliot From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 16 20:31:40 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:31:40 +0200 Subject: Firefox's "Download location?" window under main window when dragging to Desktop Message-ID: <1116275500.3762.35.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Hi all, When I drag the icon left of a url in Firefox to the desktop it will generate an (untitled) window with the text "Download location?" always underneath the main firefox window. If I drag a link to a folder the "Download location?" window pops up over the folder as it prolly should work too for dragging to the Desktop. Known issue or do I bugzilla? Couldn't find anything in bugzilla using this search: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora +Core&version=fc4test1&version=fc4test2&version=fc4test3&component=firefox&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=INVESTIGATE&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc= Regards, Patrick From wnh200405 at xphuang.com Mon May 16 20:34:42 2005 From: wnh200405 at xphuang.com (Wilbur Harvey) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:34:42 -1000 Subject: FC4-test2 latest: Sound stops (alsa/xmms/crossfade/arts) In-Reply-To: <20050506175345.48ea5e20.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <20050506175345.48ea5e20.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <428903E2.60102@xphuang.com> I am using simple XMMS with the MP3 plugin, on an NFORCE4 system with kernel 2.6.11-1.1305. Starting with the last kernel, or the one before, XMMS dies after about 1-10 minutes of listening. The program is totally dead and cannot be exited. Killing only the two xmms processes allows me to restart it. Turning off Mmap mode in the ALSA driver configuration as some had suggested doesn't seem to have any effect. Wilbur Harvey Paul Dickson wrote: >After xmms has been running for about a day, it will not start playing a >new track. This can happen either while xmms is playing or pressing play >after xmms has been stopped for a while. > >Getting it to work again requires exiting xmms, then "killall xmms", and >then a "alsactl restore", and finbally restarting xmms. If I don't do >the killall, then the buttons on the side of the notebook won't control >xmms ("Couldn't grab XF86Audio{Next,Prev,Play,Stop): another client may >already have done so"). Before killing xmms today (after exiting the >program) there where two process remaining: one started yesterday in >state SLl, the other started 6 hours earlier in state Ss. > >The crossfade plugin is using the output plugin "ALSA 1.2.10 output >plugin". > >Ogg123 can play music while xmms can't. > >Last week, while playing Konquest this happened and I got a lot of aRts >errors stateing something like the server was too busy. Eventually, I >got a big error window that said I could disable aRts (or somnething to >that effect) and I haven't seen these errors since. > >Should I file a bugzilla report? Against which package? > >I'm using: > xmms-crossfade-0.3.8-4 > xmms-1.2.10-15 > alsa-utils-1.0.9rc2-1 > > -Paul > > > From dmalcolm at redhat.com Mon May 16 20:36:22 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:36:22 -0400 Subject: evolution contacts In-Reply-To: <1116274303.17505.2.camel@nbc-linux.cisco.com> References: <1115944779.4429.6.camel@tiger> <1116273431.7144.38.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1116274303.17505.2.camel@nbc-linux.cisco.com> Message-ID: <1116275783.7144.42.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 16:11 -0400, Neil B. Cohen wrote: > I've had the same problem - I asked about it last week and have not > heard anything. If an answer is sent to you and not posted to the list, > please let me know too.... Is this in Bugzilla yet? I don't remember such a bug, so it sounds like you should file one. Please post the link here if you do (or if you find an existing one I missed). Thanks! Dave Malcolm > > thanks, > > nbc > > > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 15:57 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 20:39 -0400, Louis Garcia wrote: > > > Just installed FC4T3 and evolution seemed have lost my contact list from > > > FC3. I backup my home dir and do a fresh install. I then go back and > > > copy my data from the backup to the new home dir. With evo I always copy > > > the addressbook.db and overwrite the new one. This time it did't work. > > > Could this be s db3 issue? Someone please help!!! > > > > Did you copy the addressbook.db before or after running Evolution for > > the first time in FC4T3 ? > > > From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 16 20:49:45 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:49:45 +0200 Subject: FC4-test2 latest: Sound stops (alsa/xmms/crossfade/arts) In-Reply-To: <428903E2.60102@xphuang.com> References: <20050506175345.48ea5e20.paul@permanentmail.com> <428903E2.60102@xphuang.com> Message-ID: <1116276586.3762.40.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 10:34 -1000, Wilbur Harvey wrote: > I am using simple XMMS with the MP3 plugin, on an NFORCE4 system with > kernel 2.6.11-1.1305. > Starting with the last kernel, or the one before, XMMS dies after about > 1-10 minutes of listening. The program is totally dead and cannot be > exited. Killing only the two xmms processes allows me to restart it. > Turning off Mmap mode in the ALSA driver configuration as some had > suggested doesn't seem to have any effect. > Wilbur Harvey Using kernel 2.6.11-1.1305 on (iirc) a nforce3 system and have no issues. I did rebuild the plugin using a recent src.rpm from livna.org. Did you try that one yet? Regards, Patrick From mitr at volny.cz Mon May 16 20:46:34 2005 From: mitr at volny.cz (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:46:34 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <1116271727.2943.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050516160803.45541.qmail@web54407.mail.yahoo.com> <20050516165226.GC5733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1116271727.2943.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050516204629.GA4281@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 09:28:47PM +0200, nodata wrote: > Yes, but my point is that e-mails that looks like something has gone > wrong should be fixed, so that when something really does go wrong, we > can see, rather than assuming "oh, that funny looking thing means that > no packages were updated", and doing a secret handshake. I assume the script doesn't know whether something has gone wrong or whether no packages were updated. Mirek From petr.fischer at praguesoft.cz Mon May 16 20:49:06 2005 From: petr.fischer at praguesoft.cz (Petr Fischer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:49:06 +0200 Subject: Cyrus IMAPd removed from FC4??? In-Reply-To: <20050516181903.GB20585@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1116260870.5666.8.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <20050516165358.GA14475@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1116262727.5666.20.camel@keny.praguesoft.cz> <20050516181903.GB20585@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116276546.6238.2.camel@bohnice.homeunix.org> Yes, Fedora extras way is absolutely fine for me. Thanks for advice to all of you, pf Alan Cox p??e v Po 16. 05. 2005 v 14:19 -0400: > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:58:47PM +0200, Petr Fischer wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > > > I tried search fedora-test-list archives > > (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/) for keyword "cyrus", > > but nothing relevant resulted. > > fedora-devel I believe. > > Rough summary > > - We didn't have enough DVD space > - Cyrus is used mostly in bigger sites and requires setup > - Dovecot just works for small setups and is integrated well with standard mail > > So it seemed that cyrus users would be more than smart enough to use extras, > especially as extras is now much more integrated than in FC1-3 > From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Mon May 16 20:54:37 2005 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:54:37 -0600 Subject: No sound In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 May 2005 15:24:53 EDT." <20050516192453.GA6756@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050516205437.5748.qmail@lwn.net> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Try the 'Wave' mixer control? No help on my system, FWIW. I should note that I'm running a 2.6.12-rc4 kernel, and still haven't figured out if that's the problem. The gcc change makes going back to older kernels hard, and, at last attempt, the stock rawhide kernel has the known (to the kernel bugzilla, anyway) "oops on emu10k1 module load" problem... jon Jonathan Corbet Executive editor, LWN.net corbet at lwn.net From jeffy5 at optonline.net Mon May 16 21:34:10 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:34:10 -0400 Subject: HUH? In-Reply-To: References: <20050516003234.3DA9C23EF70@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <428911D2.9050905@optonline.net> Alexandre Oliva wrote: >On May 15, 2005, "Ronny Strenger" wrote: > > > >>I have tried downloading Fedora 4 test3 several times and I, for the life of me, cannot get the number one disk to boot! >> >> > > > >>What COULD I be doing wrong?? >> >> > >Using a bad kernel to burn the FC4T3 CDs? I remember one of the last >few kernels before we froze for FC4T3 wouldn't burn CDs correctly. If >you'd been tracking rawhide and then decided to burn FC4T3 with the >one- or two-before-FC4T3 kernel, you might be running into this >problem. Try updating the kernel and booting into it, and you might >have better luck burning a bootable CD. > > > Hello, My story may be somewhat similar. I can use the first disk to boot (and install successfully) FC4T3. In fact, I can do a complete install on my Dell Dimension xps 600t and my IBM ThinkPad T-30. However, when I try to do the same install on my Dell Inspiron 4000, I cannot even boot the computer with it. I never had problems with Fedora Core 2 and Fedora Core 3, only with the test versions of Fedora Core 4 (test 1,2,3). Has anyone had problems with this installation on Dell laptops? I have already gone to bugzilla and it seems that a similar problem seem to be the case only with Dell Laptops. Any suggestions to correct this problem would be greatly appreciated. Jeff From jeffy5 at optonline.net Mon May 16 21:39:15 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:39:15 -0400 Subject: No more Bluecurve? In-Reply-To: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> References: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42891303.5030702@optonline.net> Andrew Hudson wrote: > Hi, > > I finally got round to getting FC4T3 installed onto a machine to play > around with it and noticed that Bluecurve is not the default theme, > but that Clearlooks seems to have taken its place (as default, > anyway). Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining but does this mean > that Clearlooks is now the default FC4 theme? > > Also, I noticed a taskbar button pulsating whilst it was waiting for > input - is this a Gnome 2.10 feature or a FC4 tweak? > > Thanks, > > Andy > Hello, Your'e right - Clearlooks is now the default theme in FC4. However, you can choose BlueCurve if you prefer. In fact, I am now using BlueCurve as my theme of choice. You will have to install all of the Redhat artwork to completely see BlueCurve (which when you first install FC4T3, does not have all of the artwork installed by default). You can update your installation to receive it. Jeff From jeffy5 at optonline.net Mon May 16 21:42:37 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:42:37 -0400 Subject: No more Bluecurve? In-Reply-To: <1116273908.5743.38.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> References: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> <1116273908.5743.38.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <428913CD.4090005@optonline.net> John (J5) Palmieri wrote: >On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 20:57 +0100, Andrew Hudson wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I finally got round to getting FC4T3 installed onto a machine to play >>around with it and noticed that Bluecurve is not the default theme, but >>that Clearlooks seems to have taken its place (as default, anyway). >>Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining but does this mean that >>Clearlooks is now the default FC4 theme? >> >> > >We are tracking upstream more closely with Fedora. The default theme >will now be Clearlooks. We chose to inherit from the Bluecurve icon >theme since it seems to fit better than the current gnome icons that >Clearlooks inherits from. The idea is that as Clearlooks gets its own >icon set they will supplant the Bluecurve ones. > > > >>Also, I noticed a taskbar button pulsating whilst it was waiting for >>input - is this a Gnome 2.10 feature or a FC4 tweak? >> >> > >Last minute hack to deal with windows that pop-under to avoid stealing >focus (i.e. gaim conversation windows). This should be pushed for 2.12. > > > Hello, Will BlueCurve continue to be an option in future Fedora Core versions, since Clearlooks is now the default theme? Jeff From johnp at redhat.com Mon May 16 21:42:25 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:42:25 -0400 Subject: No more Bluecurve? In-Reply-To: <42891303.5030702@optonline.net> References: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> <42891303.5030702@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1116279745.5743.52.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 17:39 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > Andrew Hudson wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I finally got round to getting FC4T3 installed onto a machine to play > > around with it and noticed that Bluecurve is not the default theme, > > but that Clearlooks seems to have taken its place (as default, > > anyway). Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining but does this mean > > that Clearlooks is now the default FC4 theme? > > > > Also, I noticed a taskbar button pulsating whilst it was waiting for > > input - is this a Gnome 2.10 feature or a FC4 tweak? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andy > > > Hello, > > Your'e right - Clearlooks is now the default theme in FC4. > However, you can choose BlueCurve if you prefer. In fact, I am now > using BlueCurve as my theme of choice. You will have to install all of > the Redhat artwork to completely see BlueCurve (which when you first > install FC4T3, does not have all of the artwork installed by default). > You can update your installation to receive it. > > > Jeff What doesn't get installed? Bluecurve should be installed by default. -- J5 From johnp at redhat.com Mon May 16 21:46:23 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:46:23 -0400 Subject: No more Bluecurve? In-Reply-To: <428913CD.4090005@optonline.net> References: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> <1116273908.5743.38.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> <428913CD.4090005@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1116279983.5743.55.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 17:42 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > Hello, > > Will BlueCurve continue to be an option in future Fedora Core > versions, since Clearlooks is now the default theme? For the foreseeable future, yes. -- J5 From jeffy5 at optonline.net Mon May 16 21:48:42 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:48:42 -0400 Subject: No more Bluecurve? In-Reply-To: <1116279745.5743.52.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> References: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> <42891303.5030702@optonline.net> <1116279745.5743.52.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4289153A.1010408@optonline.net> John (J5) Palmieri wrote: >On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 17:39 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > > >>Andrew Hudson wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>I finally got round to getting FC4T3 installed onto a machine to play >>>around with it and noticed that Bluecurve is not the default theme, >>>but that Clearlooks seems to have taken its place (as default, >>>anyway). Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining but does this mean >>>that Clearlooks is now the default FC4 theme? >>> >>>Also, I noticed a taskbar button pulsating whilst it was waiting for >>>input - is this a Gnome 2.10 feature or a FC4 tweak? >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Andy >>> >>> >>> >>Hello, >> >> Your'e right - Clearlooks is now the default theme in FC4. >>However, you can choose BlueCurve if you prefer. In fact, I am now >>using BlueCurve as my theme of choice. You will have to install all of >>the Redhat artwork to completely see BlueCurve (which when you first >>install FC4T3, does not have all of the artwork installed by default). >>You can update your installation to receive it. >> >> >>Jeff >> >> > >What doesn't get installed? Bluecurve should be installed by default. > >-- >J5 > > > Hello, I am sorry - I should have been clearer. What I meant is that all of the icons in BlueCurve do not appear without an update after installation. BlueCurve is installed but it is not the default. Clearlooks is the default installation. Jeff From johnp at redhat.com Mon May 16 21:49:05 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:49:05 -0400 Subject: No more Bluecurve? In-Reply-To: <4289153A.1010408@optonline.net> References: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> <42891303.5030702@optonline.net> <1116279745.5743.52.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> <4289153A.1010408@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1116280145.5743.57.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 17:48 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > > >What doesn't get installed? Bluecurve should be installed by default. > > > >-- > >J5 > > > > > > > Hello, > > I am sorry - I should have been clearer. What I meant is that all > of the icons in BlueCurve do not appear without an update after > installation. BlueCurve is installed but it is not the default. > Clearlooks is the default installation. Ah, yes. That got fixed sometime after the test release went out. -- J5 From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Mon May 16 22:21:44 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:21:44 -0300 Subject: FC4T3 still panics at boot with MSI 915g combo Message-ID: <1116282104.25765.3.camel@preview> The same thing I reported with FC4T1, FC4T2 still happens with fc4t3. The bios is updated, but it stills panics during some sort of pci probe (I already pasted the stack here). Just to let you know. From jeffy5 at optonline.net Mon May 16 22:22:01 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:22:01 -0400 Subject: Absence of the inbox applet in Gnome Message-ID: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> Hello, Does anyone know the reason why the Inbox applet is no longer included in Gnome 2.10? When I right-click on the taskbar and find "add to panel", I noticed that the Inbox applet is no longer available. Jeff From asacan at earthlink.net Mon May 16 22:22:14 2005 From: asacan at earthlink.net (Asa Canaway) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:22:14 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: NO SOUND Message-ID: <1915381.1116282135269.JavaMail.root@bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net> As I was reading through the test-list archive, I remembered that I, too, was having the same problem regarding sound and EMU10k. Never worked since trying to initialize sound at installation. At that moment, I recalled what other distributions have done, installing with all mixer settings DOWN. I opened KMIX (my Gnome isn't working right now, but that's for a different message), and adjusted my sliders. They appeared to be up a little, but I moved them up more anyway (what would it hurt if it isn't working, right?). Then I opened up System Settings > Soundcard Detection, and I could barely hear the test pattern. I bumped up my speaker volume a little, and viola! Sound works! From rpaiz at simpaticus.com Mon May 16 22:30:52 2005 From: rpaiz at simpaticus.com (Rodolfo J. Paiz) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:30:52 -0600 Subject: Raising the bar for FC4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116282652.5998.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 16:21 -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > This means that Monday, May 23 is the final final freeze for FC4. After > that, the bar for accepting changes into FC4 is even higher. I very much want to suggest that fewer packages be installed when a "minimal" install is selected. However, I have not had the time to test my suggestions so I have withheld them rather than to make a recommendation which I could not assure was safe. If I had to recommend broad changes, I would suggest removing the requirement that Core and Dialup groups be installed. That way only the Base group packages are installed and the footprint shrinks a great deal. If reducing the groups is not acceptable, and the devel team would like specific recommendations [1], then what would be my deadline for submitting them? [1] See the "Bare-Bones Server HOWTO" for my recommendations on how to slim down an FC3 system without sacrificing important functionality. http://www.simpaticus.com/linux/ Thanks, -- Rodolfo J. Paiz From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Mon May 16 22:35:59 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:35:59 -0400 Subject: Absence of the inbox applet in Gnome In-Reply-To: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> References: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1116282959.7161.1.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:22 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > Does anyone know the reason why the Inbox applet is no longer > included in Gnome 2.10? When I right-click on the taskbar and find "add > to panel", I noticed that the Inbox applet is no longer available. Fedora Extras, mail-notification. Preferences | More Preferences | Mail Notification. Runs in the Notification Area. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 16 22:48:13 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:48:13 +0200 Subject: Absence of the inbox applet in Gnome In-Reply-To: <1116282959.7161.1.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> References: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> <1116282959.7161.1.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <4289232D.5040008@gmx.de> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: >On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:22 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > > >>Does anyone know the reason why the Inbox applet is no longer >>included in Gnome 2.10? When I right-click on the taskbar and find "add >>to panel", I noticed that the Inbox applet is no longer available. >> >> >Fedora Extras, mail-notification. Preferences | More Preferences | Mail >Notification. Runs in the Notification Area. > it is in SRPMS, i386, x86_64 but unfortunately not in ppc :-( http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/ppc/ -- shrek-m From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Mon May 16 22:59:04 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:59:04 -0400 Subject: Absence of the inbox applet in Gnome In-Reply-To: <4289232D.5040008@gmx.de> References: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> <1116282959.7161.1.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> <4289232D.5040008@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1116284345.7161.4.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 00:48 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > >On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:22 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > > > > > >>Does anyone know the reason why the Inbox applet is no longer > >>included in Gnome 2.10? When I right-click on the taskbar and find "add > >>to panel", I noticed that the Inbox applet is no longer available. > >> > >> > >Fedora Extras, mail-notification. Preferences | More Preferences | Mail > >Notification. Runs in the Notification Area. > > > > it is in SRPMS, i386, x86_64 but unfortunately not in ppc :-( > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/ppc/ That's disappointing :( Let me get FC4t3 working on my Mac then I'll see what I can do. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ignitionworks at yahoo.com Mon May 16 23:24:42 2005 From: ignitionworks at yahoo.com (IgnitionWorks) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> --- Miloslav Trmac wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 09:28:47PM +0200, nodata > wrote: > > Yes, but my point is that e-mails that looks like > something has gone > > wrong should be fixed, so that when something > really does go wrong, we > > can see, rather than assuming "oh, that funny > looking thing means that > > no packages were updated", and doing a secret > handshake. > I assume the script doesn't know whether something > has gone wrong > or whether no packages were updated. > Mirek > The developers are working on high priority issues and I personally do not think this is a high priority or a show stopper. The build system script needs to check for updated packages, if any, else send 'No packages' email. For the interm, they can run cron M-F only. Either way, it's a trivial issue. Josh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From asacan at earthlink.net Tue May 17 00:15:15 2005 From: asacan at earthlink.net (Asa Canaway) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: Firefox-1.0.4 and Java Message-ID: <1116288916.10637.6.camel@no1> Okay, this seems odd, and I may be doing something wrong. I downloaded Java jre-1.0.5_02, and installed it, then linked (ln -s) to the javaplugin_oji.so (/usr/java/jre-1.5.0_02/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29) in Firefox plugins (/usr/lib/firefox-1.0.4/plugins), and then Firefox won't start. I remove the link, and Firefox starts! I've done this many times before. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug with Firefox (it works on my FC3 box), FC4T3 or even Java? Sorry about my previous posts (if you've seen them). Hopefully this formats better on the test list. From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue May 17 00:27:49 2005 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:27:49 -0700 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> IgnitionWorks wrote: > The developers are working on high priority issues and > I personally do not think this is a high priority or a > show stopper. > > The build system script needs to check for updated > packages, if any, else send 'No packages' email. > > For the interm, they can run cron M-F only. > > Either way, it's a trivial issue. No, the _issue_ is NOT trivial. The current behavior directly undermines the little trust that volunteer testers have left in the Fedora development system. It's broken, in a MAJOR way. The _fix_ IS trivial. At the end of the report, add a line: packages updated. If the list is empty and 0==n, then everyone will know that the probability is at least 0.99999 that no packages were updated, and that therefore an empty list is to be expected. Otherwise, an empty list and no line "0 packages updated." will indicate an error somewhere in the process. Imagine that: truly effective communication. -- From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 17 00:45:48 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:45:48 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910505161745572c4148@mail.gmail.com> On 5/16/05, John Reiser wrote: > No, the _issue_ is NOT trivial. The current behavior directly > undermines the little trust that volunteer testers have > left in the Fedora development system. It's broken, > in a MAJOR way. What year did you graduate from the William Shatner school of melodrama? I bet you were the top of the class. >Imagine that: truly effective communication. -jef' "Not one hundred percent efficient, of course ... but nothing ever is." -- Kirk, stardate 3219.8'spaleta From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Tue May 17 01:03:09 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:03:09 +0000 Subject: vga term In-Reply-To: <200505142213.21452.rpa4email@rogers.com> Message-ID: ok it turns out that after the pc runs for X amount of time the graphics get slow anyone have any ideas to see if your having the same problem let a gl based screen saver run for maybe 2 hours then it should start going slow and glxgears should be slow to any ideas is this maybe that my nVidia 6600 card is get to hot i am running the system with the case open and this still happens if it is heat related becuase one of the chip feels pretty hot when i touch it how would i go about fixing this any ideas are welcomed >From: Robert Couture >Reply-To: rpa4email at rogers.com,For testers of Fedora Core development >releases >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: vga term >Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:13:21 -0400 > >On Saturday 14 May 2005 20:06, Caleb Warta wrote: > > > i got it working i had to copy the files over by hand > >Hmmm, mine worked from the download. > > > but i havnt had anyluck with the shadows and transpernt features that >one > > of the menus offered after a restart it would error and tell me to add 3 > > lines to the xorg.conf file and i did restarted and still got the error >i > > am not 100% sure on the location of these option anymore did to much >head > > to desk to day with the glx > >You need to add the following to your xorg.conf: > >Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Enable" >EndSection > >HTH! > >Let me know how you performance is with that feature turned on. > >Robert. > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. 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Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Tue May 17 01:23:48 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:23:48 +0000 Subject: cpu overload sound server crash Message-ID: ok this is bugging the heck out of me this is a 2 part message just to warn you all ever time i boot and then log into KDE dont remember if ive tried it in gnome yet or not but in KDE for sure every time i boot with in 2 minutes i get a little system message saying that the sounds server has crashed due to cpu overload or something like that i am running a MSI mother board with a AMD 64 3200 or 3400 i am thinking that over load cpu doesnt make any sence i am also running MSI's nVidia NX6600 AGP card with 256 card ram and 1 gb system ram with a full install of the new FC4 T3 cds any ideas what this is becuase for the most part i still have saound after this happens part 2 when in gnome and i run 'gnome-system-monitor' to take a look at cpu power i get a nice low 2-5% why am i checking the cpu in gnome when i manly use KDE well becuase when i check it in KDE with 'gnome-system-monitor' or any of the panels or anything in KDE that shows you the cpu i get a 100% no drops ever 100% all the time with nothing running that not cool has anyone else had this problem i have stoped using kde for now till i know what the heck is wrong becuase it not only runs my cpu at 100% but i think my graphics card get over heated after 1 - 2 hours of the gl screen saver or sometime npothing what the heck is wrong here does anyone know i really need some help here guys i dont want to burn up my system i have only had it for about 6 months and i dont want to get stuck on my windows backup pc again _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From fedora-test-list at six-by-nine.com.au Tue May 17 01:48:54 2005 From: fedora-test-list at six-by-nine.com.au (Peter Lawler) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:48:54 +1000 Subject: No more Bluecurve? In-Reply-To: <1116273908.5743.38.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> References: <4288FB26.3040404@gmail.com> <1116273908.5743.38.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <42894D86.5090101@six-by-nine.com.au> John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > Last minute hack to deal with windows that pop-under to avoid stealing > focus (i.e. gaim conversation windows). This should be pushed for 2.12. > This issue is being discussed between the gaim chaps and senior fedora people. FWIW, metacity is being stupid in not following ICCCM (from what I understand). However, my intention with this post is to point out it's being looked at, not to start a flame war. Regards, Pete. From aoliva at redhat.com Tue May 17 02:33:26 2005 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 16 May 2005 23:33:26 -0300 Subject: Firefox-1.0.4 and Java In-Reply-To: <1116288916.10637.6.camel@no1> References: <1116288916.10637.6.camel@no1> Message-ID: On May 16, 2005, Asa Canaway wrote: > javaplugin_oji.so (/usr/java/jre-1.5.0_02/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29) The gcc29 plugin won't do, you need something like ns7-gcc32 or above. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From kapointer at charter.net Tue May 17 02:36:04 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:36:04 -0500 Subject: Absence of the inbox applet in Gnome In-Reply-To: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> References: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1116297364.21050.5.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:22 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know the reason why the Inbox applet is no longer > included in Gnome 2.10? When I right-click on the taskbar and find "add > to panel", I noticed that the Inbox applet is no longer available. > > > > Jeff > > They removed it in gnome 2.10 because it was insecure and unmaintained. ( I quote ) :) But if you want a better mail notification program, ( enable fedora-extras repo ) yum install mail-notification Then there should be a nifty little module in gnome-control-center. :) ( or you could just start it manually with mail-notification / I like the consistency in naming :) ) -- kyle From bob-ewart at earthlink.net Tue May 17 03:03:49 2005 From: bob-ewart at earthlink.net (Bob Ewart) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:03:49 -0400 Subject: fsck fails on reiser partition in boot FC4T3 Message-ID: <42895F15.8090109@earthlink.net> I have a multi-boot system with reiserfs partitions on sda3,5 and 6. Fedora is installed on sdb2. When I try to boot it fails saying that fsck.ext3 fails on /dev/sda6. This happens whether or not /dev/sda6 is in fstab. This seems to be similar to bug 135863, but that was on FC3 test 3. I'm running an Athlon 64 3500+ with 2 sata drives. Does anyone have any ideas of how to get around this? It's a complete show stopper for me. -- -- Bob Nobody's gonna believe that computers are intelligent until they start coming in late and lying about it. From johnp at redhat.com Tue May 17 04:06:37 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:06:37 -0400 Subject: cpu overload sound server crash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116302797.12699.1.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> Have you run top to see what process is eating CPU? On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 01:23 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote: > ok this is bugging the heck out of me this is a 2 part message just to warn > you all > > ever time i boot and then log into KDE dont remember if ive tried it in > gnome yet or not but in KDE for sure every time i boot with in 2 minutes i > get a little system message saying that the sounds server has crashed due to > cpu overload or something like that i am running a MSI mother board with a > AMD 64 3200 or 3400 i am thinking that over load cpu doesnt make any sence i > am also running MSI's nVidia NX6600 AGP card with 256 card ram and 1 gb > system ram with a full install of the new FC4 T3 cds any ideas what this is > becuase for the most part i still have saound after this happens > > part 2 > > when in gnome and i run 'gnome-system-monitor' to take a look at cpu power i > get a nice low 2-5% why am i checking the cpu in gnome when i manly use KDE > well becuase when i check it in KDE with 'gnome-system-monitor' or any of > the panels or anything in KDE that shows you the cpu i get a 100% no drops > ever 100% all the time with nothing running that not cool has anyone else > had this problem i have stoped using kde for now till i know what the heck > is wrong becuase it not only runs my cpu at 100% but i think my graphics > card get over heated after 1 - 2 hours of the gl screen saver or sometime > npothing what the heck is wrong here does anyone know > > i really need some help here guys i dont want to burn up my system i have > only had it for about 6 months and i dont want to get stuck on my windows > backup pc again > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > From generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp Tue May 17 04:31:29 2005 From: generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp (Namikawa, Shozo) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:31:29 +0900 Subject: Hi all!! add "up2date command after FC4test3 installation" In-Reply-To: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> References: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> Message-ID: <428973A1.5030701@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Jared Buck wrote: > How's everyone? I was excited to try out the rest3 version of FC4, it > installed flawlessly on my machine, and so far have not been > experiencing any problems except for when up2date freezes when it says > it's gathering a list of packages on my machine. I read the messages > and apparently it's a common bug everyone's experiencing so I'm not > too worried about it. I'm using yum update instead and that works fine. > > I like all the new features, but it did take me a little bit to get > used to where the configuration options are now (like add/remove > packages, etc), but they're in a much more logical position now than > they were before. Also love all the stuff that comes with KDE now, > there's a ton of stuff I have yet to try out :) > > I've done beta testing before (I'm doing that now for an online game) > so I know to expect bugs and glitches, but aside from the bug I've > mentioned, test3's been working very well for me. > > Jared Buck > Crestline, CA After FC4test3 installation, considerable time has gone caused by up2date included extras-development, it result to no exist ".rpm" or invalid "url". Therefore, I up2date under development environment without extras-development, with clearing /var/spool/up2date just before each operation of up2date. 1. preparation 1.1 setting of "/etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources" 1) comment out extras-development "#yum extras-development http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/$ARCH/" "#yum-mirror extras-development http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-devel" 1.2 setting of "/etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date" 1) alternative setting on up2date #up2date-config --nox 7. pkgSkipList ['kernel*', 'GFS*', 'cman*', 'dlm*', 'gnbd*'] 18. useGPG No 19. headerCacheSize 1000 33. headerFetchCount 1000 2. up2date --dry-run under up2date-4.4.17-1 1) clear all .hdr under "/var/spool/up2date" 2) #up2date --dry-run 3) ==> get avairable package 3. up2date up2date* (up2date-4.4.17-1 -> up2date-4.4.18-1) 1) clear all .hdr under "/var/spool/up2date" 2)#up2date up2date* 4. up2date --dry-run under up2date-4.4.18-1 1) clear all .hdr under "/var/spool/up2date" 2) #up2date --dry-run 3) ==> get avairable package 5. up2date all 1) clear all .hdr under "/var/spool/up2date" 2) "#up2date "[C-x]*" If failed, try each step. From mpeters at mac.com Tue May 17 04:46:31 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:46:31 -0700 Subject: Firefox-1.0.4 and Java In-Reply-To: <1116288916.10637.6.camel@no1> References: <1116288916.10637.6.camel@no1> Message-ID: <1116305192.6439.2.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 20:15 -0400, Asa Canaway wrote: > Okay, this seems odd, and I may be doing something wrong. I downloaded > Java jre-1.0.5_02, and installed it, then linked (ln -s) to the > javaplugin_oji.so (/usr/java/jre-1.5.0_02/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29) in > Firefox plugins (/usr/lib/firefox-1.0.4/plugins), and then Firefox won't > start. I remove the link, and Firefox starts! I've done this many > times before. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug with Firefox > (it works on my FC3 box), FC4T3 or even Java? > > Sorry about my previous posts (if you've seen them). Hopefully this > formats better on the test list. > Java works for me in rawhide. I use the jpackage.org nosrc.rpm to create java rpm's of Sun's j2sdk 1.5.0 Install them - and it just works. On x86 anyway. I really recommend using jpackage.org for anything Java in Fedora. With rare exceptions, it just plain works. From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Tue May 17 05:25:58 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 05:25:58 +0000 Subject: cpu overload sound server crash In-Reply-To: <1116302797.12699.1.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: well thats a great command gnome-system-monitor always showed artsd as 0% but its the little limtless power hog any ideas what it is for and how to fix this problem >From: "John (J5) Palmieri" >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: cpu overload sound server crash >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:06:37 -0400 > >Have you run top to see what process is eating CPU? > >On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 01:23 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote: > > ok this is bugging the heck out of me this is a 2 part message just to >warn > > you all > > > > ever time i boot and then log into KDE dont remember if ive tried it in > > gnome yet or not but in KDE for sure every time i boot with in 2 minutes >i > > get a little system message saying that the sounds server has crashed >due to > > cpu overload or something like that i am running a MSI mother board with >a > > AMD 64 3200 or 3400 i am thinking that over load cpu doesnt make any >sence i > > am also running MSI's nVidia NX6600 AGP card with 256 card ram and 1 gb > > system ram with a full install of the new FC4 T3 cds any ideas what this >is > > becuase for the most part i still have saound after this happens > > > > part 2 > > > > when in gnome and i run 'gnome-system-monitor' to take a look at cpu >power i > > get a nice low 2-5% why am i checking the cpu in gnome when i manly use >KDE > > well becuase when i check it in KDE with 'gnome-system-monitor' or any >of > > the panels or anything in KDE that shows you the cpu i get a 100% no >drops > > ever 100% all the time with nothing running that not cool has anyone >else > > had this problem i have stoped using kde for now till i know what the >heck > > is wrong becuase it not only runs my cpu at 100% but i think my graphics > > card get over heated after 1 - 2 hours of the gl screen saver or >sometime > > npothing what the heck is wrong here does anyone know > > > > i really need some help here guys i dont want to burn up my system i >have > > only had it for about 6 months and i dont want to get stuck on my >windows > > backup pc again > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Tue May 17 06:34:21 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 06:34:21 +0000 Subject: yum error Message-ID: ok i have never had to use yum before but it seems that up2date is not working so i thought i would just try yum i typed in a term yum update and it started checking stuff like crazy though to my self this maybe way easier then up2date then i got this Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package GFS-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package dlm-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package gnbd-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package cman-kernel i am guessing but i need to update my kerrnel can some please give me some ideas on how to update with yum like to start how to update my kerrnel sence that seems to be my first issue _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From ivg2 at cornell.edu Tue May 17 07:21:03 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 03:21:03 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 06:34 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote: > ok i have never had to use yum before but it seems that up2date is not > working so i thought i would just try yum > > i typed in a term > > yum update > > and it started checking stuff like crazy though to my self this maybe way > easier then up2date then i got this > > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > package GFS-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > package dlm-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > package gnbd-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > package cman-kernel > > i am guessing but i need to update my kerrnel can some please give me some > ideas on how to update with yum like to start how to update my kerrnel sence > that seems to be my first issue Yum should update dependencies automatically - that's what it's designed for. 1) Which version of Fedora is this? 2) Can you look in /etc/yum.conf, and /etc/yum.repos.d/, and see which repositories are enabled? (enabled = 1) 2) Do you have anything installed from source (anything kernel-related, for example)? 3) Do you actually need GFS on your system? -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From Fred.New at microlink.ee Tue May 17 07:21:19 2005 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:21:19 +0300 Subject: Firefox-1.0.4 and Java Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EC29@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 17. mai 2005. a. 5:33, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On May 16, 2005, Asa Canaway wrote: > > > javaplugin_oji.so (/usr/java/jre-1.5.0_02/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29) > > The gcc29 plugin won't do, you need something like ns7-gcc32 or > above. > I used the plugin in the ...plugin/i386/ns7 directory and it worked a lot better. By the way, if you make this link in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, Firefox will find it and you won't have to keep installing it every time the Firefox version changes. Fred From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Tue May 17 07:35:43 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:35:43 +0000 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Fedora Core 4 Test 3 x86-64 its a full install off the cds nothing really has been added to it heres my yum.conf [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=redhat-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 obsoletes=1 gpgcheck=1 # PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo # in /etc/yum.repos.d i checked the folder that has the REPOS in it and fedora-devel.repo was enabled fedora-extras-devel.repo was enabled fedora.repo, fedora-updates.repo and fedora-updates-testing.repo were all not enabled so i enabled them and i am about to try it again >From: Ivan Gyurdiev >Reply-To: ivg2 at cornell.edu,For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: yum error >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 03:21:03 -0400 > >On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 06:34 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote: > > ok i have never had to use yum before but it seems that up2date is not > > working so i thought i would just try yum > > > > i typed in a term > > > > yum update > > > > and it started checking stuff like crazy though to my self this maybe >way > > easier then up2date then i got this > > > > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > > package GFS-kernel > > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > > package dlm-kernel > > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > > package gnbd-kernel > > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > > package cman-kernel > > > > i am guessing but i need to update my kerrnel can some please give me >some > > ideas on how to update with yum like to start how to update my kerrnel >sence > > that seems to be my first issue > >Yum should update dependencies automatically - >that's what it's designed for. > >1) Which version of Fedora is this? > >2) Can you look in /etc/yum.conf, and /etc/yum.repos.d/, and >see which repositories are enabled? (enabled = 1) > >2) Do you have anything installed from source (anything kernel-related, >for example)? > >3) Do you actually need GFS on your system? > >-- >Ivan Gyurdiev >Cornell University > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Tue May 17 07:47:40 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:47:40 +0000 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ok well turns out that those 3 i enabled dont work i tried uncommenting the baseurl when i got a error on that and then i got a error on the mirrors so i disabled them and i am just using the devel related ones this is the last bit of what yum tells me --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 for package: GFS-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 for package: dlm-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 for package: gnbd-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 for package: cman-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package GFS-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package dlm-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package gnbd-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by package cman-kernel here is my fedora-devel.repo [development] #These packages are untested and still under development. This #repository is used for updates to test releases #This repository can see significant daily turn over and can see major #functionality changes which cause unexpected problems with other #development packages. Please use these packages if you want to work #with the fedora Developers by testing these new development packages. # #fedora-test-list mailinglist is available as a discussion forum for #testing and troubleshooting for development packages. # #Reportable issues should be filed at bugzilla.redhat.com #Product: Fedora Core #Version: devel name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ mirrorlist=http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 and here is my fedora-extras-devel.repo [extras-development] name=Fedora Extras $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/$basearch/ mirrorlist=http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-devel enabled=1 gpgkey=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/RPM-GPG-KEY-Fedora-Extras gpgcheck=0 the yum.conf [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=redhat-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 obsoletes=1 gpgcheck=1 # PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo # in /etc/yum.repos.d the error i am getting is above note i have never used yum before can some one please tell me what is wrong >From: "Caleb Warta" >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Subject: Re: yum error >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:35:43 +0000 > >Fedora Core 4 Test 3 x86-64 > >its a full install off the cds nothing really has been added to it > >heres my yum.conf > >[main] >cachedir=/var/cache/yum >debuglevel=2 >logfile=/var/log/yum.log >pkgpolicy=newest >distroverpkg=redhat-release >tolerant=1 >exactarch=1 >retries=20 >obsoletes=1 >gpgcheck=1 > ># PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo ># in /etc/yum.repos.d > >i checked the folder that has the REPOS in it and > >fedora-devel.repo was enabled >fedora-extras-devel.repo was enabled > >fedora.repo, fedora-updates.repo and fedora-updates-testing.repo were all >not enabled so i enabled them and i am about to try it again >>From: Ivan Gyurdiev >>Reply-To: ivg2 at cornell.edu,For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> >>To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> >>Subject: Re: yum error >>Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 03:21:03 -0400 >> >>On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 06:34 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote: >> > ok i have never had to use yum before but it seems that up2date is not >> > working so i thought i would just try yum >> > >> > i typed in a term >> > >> > yum update >> > >> > and it started checking stuff like crazy though to my self this maybe >>way >> > easier then up2date then i got this >> > >> > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by >> > package GFS-kernel >> > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by >> > package dlm-kernel >> > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by >> > package gnbd-kernel >> > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by >> > package cman-kernel >> > >> > i am guessing but i need to update my kerrnel can some please give me >>some >> > ideas on how to update with yum like to start how to update my kerrnel >>sence >> > that seems to be my first issue >> >>Yum should update dependencies automatically - >>that's what it's designed for. >> >>1) Which version of Fedora is this? >> >>2) Can you look in /etc/yum.conf, and /etc/yum.repos.d/, and >>see which repositories are enabled? (enabled = 1) >> >>2) Do you have anything installed from source (anything kernel-related, >>for example)? >> >>3) Do you actually need GFS on your system? >> >>-- >>Ivan Gyurdiev >>Cornell University >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > >_________________________________________________________________ >On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to >get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee? Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Tue May 17 08:21:57 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:21:57 -0700 Subject: FC4T3 Report, Dell Latitude D800 In-Reply-To: <1116242244.28782.0.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> References: <1116031235.7378.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116242244.28782.0.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <1116318117.7275.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 07:17 -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote: > On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 17:40 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > Flawless install. > > > > Am I the only one that has to disable SELINUX to get the closed source > > NVIDIA driver to install correctly? > > That's a feature, not a bug ;) No, seriously, please file a bugzilla > against selinux-policy-targeted with the relevant avc messages from > your /var/log/audit/audit.log file. Thanks. > > -- > Stephen Smalley > National Security Agency > I think I would disagree with the need to file a bug against the Nvidia drivers and SELinux. I don't want to sound to negative here as the Nvidia closed source drivers are really great(luv the Doom3), but let's not encourage the behavior of Nvidia in this regard. I would say that it is enough that the Livna folks know how to work around the issue with their RPM and that we post this information somewhere that it can be "Googled" easily. I would like other folks opinions in this matter. Sean From ivg2 at cornell.edu Tue May 17 08:27:18 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 04:27:18 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116318438.14960.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> > and here is my fedora-extras-devel.repo Where does this file come from, by the way? I'm curious, since I don't have that. Can you do: rpm -qf /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras-devel.repo > the error i am getting is above note i have never used yum before can some > one please tell me what is wrong The problem is most likely that the GFS packages need to be updated to sync with the current kernel package (1303). If you're using rawhide, this will happen all the time. However, this is getting close to a release, so I suppose it should be fixed very soon. I can confirm bug. ================ I would suggest not installing every package there is, because that's just more things that can possibly break - if you don't need the GFS packages, you probably shouldn't install them (or, in your case, you should remove them). -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From blackman at pharm.uoa.gr Tue May 17 08:47:32 2005 From: blackman at pharm.uoa.gr (=?ISO-8859-7?Q?=C4=E7=EC=DE=F4=F1=E7=F2_=C3=E9=FE=F1=EA=E1=F2?=) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:47:32 +0300 Subject: Fedora Core 4 64Bit rc3: HAL - Mounting Devices - fstab - GRUB Message-ID: <4289AFA4.8080601@pharm.uoa.gr> I InstalledFedora core 3 and Update to Fedora core 4. I Installed Everything without exceptions. I Have two HD on my System one IDE (hda) and one SATA (sda). The system is installed on hda2, but just to find out that my sda1 fat32 partition was not auto mounted anywhere which is a little strange since this was automatically been done in 32bit version. I add manually the mount options in /etc/fstab and I did "mount -a". The sda1 was preferctly mounted but just to find out that it was removed from fstab on the next reboot!!! Why??? Also Having installed WindowzXp on another partition it was perfectly worked on FC3 but upgrading to 4 I got error 15 when booting. I did "grub-install /dev/hda" but still the same. then I try "grub-install /dev/fd0" and installed/worked without problem boot ing from floppy. Any Ideas??? More to come... Please notice that gcc 4 might be great speedy etc but for compatibility reasons since most software can't get compiled I would like to have also the gcc 3 in the final release. Also noticed that Mplayer can't compile with gui cause can't find X11. it seems that removing the 32bit Xorg-devel solves the problem.... FC4 64bit is a little buggy but much faster than 32bit... Excelent Job! From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue May 17 08:43:41 2005 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:43:41 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <20050517104341.02cc2835.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:27:49 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > IgnitionWorks wrote: > > The developers are working on high priority issues and > > I personally do not think this is a high priority or a > > show stopper. > > > > The build system script needs to check for updated > > packages, if any, else send 'No packages' email. > > > > For the interm, they can run cron M-F only. > > > > Either way, it's a trivial issue. > > No, the _issue_ is NOT trivial. The current behavior directly > undermines the little trust that volunteer testers have > left in the Fedora development system. It's broken, > in a MAJOR way. > > The _fix_ IS trivial. At the end of the report, add a line: > > packages updated. > > If the list is empty and 0==n, then everyone will know > that the probability is at least 0.99999 that no packages > were updated, and that therefore an empty list is to be expected. > Otherwise, an empty list and no line "0 packages updated." > will indicate an error somewhere in the process. > Imagine that: truly effective communication. Empty list means no new packages found by the script. -- Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) - Linux 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 loadavg: 1.00 1.00 1.00 From fedora at nodata.co.uk Tue May 17 08:45:57 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:45:57 +0200 (CEST) Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <20050517104341.02cc2835.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> <20050517104341.02cc2835.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <41542.213.164.3.90.1116319557.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> > On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:27:49 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > >> IgnitionWorks wrote: >> > The developers are working on high priority issues and >> > I personally do not think this is a high priority or a >> > show stopper. >> > >> > The build system script needs to check for updated >> > packages, if any, else send 'No packages' email. >> > >> > For the interm, they can run cron M-F only. >> > >> > Either way, it's a trivial issue. >> >> No, the _issue_ is NOT trivial. The current behavior directly >> undermines the little trust that volunteer testers have >> left in the Fedora development system. It's broken, >> in a MAJOR way. >> >> The _fix_ IS trivial. At the end of the report, add a line: >> >> packages updated. >> >> If the list is empty and 0==n, then everyone will know >> that the probability is at least 0.99999 that no packages >> were updated, and that therefore an empty list is to be expected. >> Otherwise, an empty list and no line "0 packages updated." >> will indicate an error somewhere in the process. >> Imagine that: truly effective communication. > > Empty list means no new packages found by the script. > Or that something went wrong, which is why this discussion is taking place. From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue May 17 08:47:21 2005 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:47:21 +0200 Subject: fsck fails on reiser partition in boot FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <42895F15.8090109@earthlink.net> References: <42895F15.8090109@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20050517104721.7fa5698e.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:03:49 -0400, Bob Ewart wrote: > I have a multi-boot system with reiserfs partitions on sda3,5 and 6. > Fedora is installed on sdb2. When I try to boot it fails saying that > fsck.ext3 fails on /dev/sda6. This happens whether or not /dev/sda6 is > in fstab. "parted /dev/sda print" _and_ "fdisk -l /dev/sda" both list the partition as reiserfs? -- Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) - Linux 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 loadavg: 1.00 1.00 1.00 From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue May 17 08:51:48 2005 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:51:48 +0200 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050517105148.64ad248a.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 17 May 2005 06:34:21 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote: > ok i have never had to use yum before but it seems that up2date is not > working so i thought i would just try yum > > i typed in a term > > yum update > > and it started checking stuff like crazy though to my self this maybe way > easier then up2date then i got this > > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > package GFS-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > package dlm-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > package gnbd-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1288_FC4 is needed by > package cman-kernel > > i am guessing but i need to update my kerrnel can some please give me some > ideas on how to update with yum like to start how to update my kerrnel sence > that seems to be my first issue Then either wait until above packages are in sync with the latest kernel again or erase above packages. -- Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) - Linux 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 loadavg: 1.60 1.17 1.05 From cimmo at libero.it Tue May 17 08:55:16 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:55:16 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 4 64Bit rc3: HAL - Mounting Devices - fstab - GRUB In-Reply-To: <4289AFA4.8080601@pharm.uoa.gr> References: <4289AFA4.8080601@pharm.uoa.gr> Message-ID: <4289B174.9050705@libero.it> ???????? ??????? ha scritto: > Also Having installed WindowzXp on another partition it was perfectly > worked on FC3 but upgrading to 4 I got error 15 when booting. I did > "grub-install /dev/hda" but still the same. then I try "grub-install > /dev/fd0" and installed/worked without problem boot ing from floppy. > Any Ideas??? > Probably affected by this bug that I report? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=154585 From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Tue May 17 09:02:23 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:02:23 +0000 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116318438.14960.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: what are the packages used for and how can i remove them >From: Ivan Gyurdiev >Reply-To: ivg2 at cornell.edu,For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: yum error >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 04:27:18 -0400 > > > > and here is my fedora-extras-devel.repo > >Where does this file come from, by the way? >I'm curious, since I don't have that. >Can you do: rpm -qf /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras-devel.repo > > > the error i am getting is above note i have never used yum before can >some > > one please tell me what is wrong > >The problem is most likely that the GFS packages need to be updated >to sync with the current kernel package (1303). If you're using rawhide, >this will happen all the time. However, this is getting >close to a release, so I suppose it should be fixed very soon. I can >confirm bug. > >================ > >I would suggest not installing every package there is, because that's >just more things that can possibly break - if you don't need the GFS >packages, you probably shouldn't install them (or, in your case, >you should remove them). > >-- >Ivan Gyurdiev >Cornell University > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ? get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From a.kurtz at hardsun.net Tue May 17 09:13:26 2005 From: a.kurtz at hardsun.net (Aaron Kurtz) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 02:13:26 -0700 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 03:21 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: >On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 06:34 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote: > > i am guessing but i need to update my kerrnel can some please give me some > > ideas on how to update with yum like to start how to update my kerrnel sence > > that seems to be my first issue > > Yum should update dependencies automatically - > that's what it's designed for. This isn't yum's fault, this is just what happens when you use rawhide - some packages get pushed out before their dependecies are properly met. This has been mentioned over and over again, and should probably be part of the Release Notes or something for test releases. yum --exclude=$package1 --exclude=$package2 $command will allow you to update everything else but the kernel. Here, looking at what it's asking for reveals that you have old kernel modules that haven't been updated for the latest kernel release, so yum --exclude=kernel update. -- Aaron Kurtz References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> Message-ID: <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> > This isn't yum's fault, this is just what happens when you use rawhide - > some packages get pushed out before their dependecies are properly met. > This has been mentioned over and over again, and should probably be part > of the Release Notes or something for test releases. What safeguards are there to ensure that this does not happen in Fedora-Updates, and why can't the same approach be applied to rawhide? I think this behavior should be fixed, not documented. -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From a.kurtz at hardsun.net Tue May 17 10:16:03 2005 From: a.kurtz at hardsun.net (Aaron Kurtz) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 03:16:03 -0700 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116324963.22682.17.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 05:41 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > This isn't yum's fault, this is just what happens when you use rawhide - > > some packages get pushed out before their dependecies are properly met. > > This has been mentioned over and over again, and should probably be part > > of the Release Notes or something for test releases. > > What safeguards are there to ensure that this does not happen in > Fedora-Updates, and why can't the same approach be applied to rawhide? Why should it be? The point of rawhide and test releases is development, so what justifies slowing down what's pushed to rawhide? -- Aaron Kurtz References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> <20050517104341.02cc2835.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <41542.213.164.3.90.1116319557.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: <20050517122316.29ce21c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 17 May 2005 10:45:57 +0200 (CEST), nodata wrote: > > On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:27:49 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > > > >> IgnitionWorks wrote: > >> > The developers are working on high priority issues and > >> > I personally do not think this is a high priority or a > >> > show stopper. > >> > > >> > The build system script needs to check for updated > >> > packages, if any, else send 'No packages' email. > >> > > >> > For the interm, they can run cron M-F only. > >> > > >> > Either way, it's a trivial issue. > >> > >> No, the _issue_ is NOT trivial. The current behavior directly > >> undermines the little trust that volunteer testers have > >> left in the Fedora development system. It's broken, > >> in a MAJOR way. > >> > >> The _fix_ IS trivial. At the end of the report, add a line: > >> > >> packages updated. > >> > >> If the list is empty and 0==n, then everyone will know > >> that the probability is at least 0.99999 that no packages > >> were updated, and that therefore an empty list is to be expected. > >> Otherwise, an empty list and no line "0 packages updated." > >> will indicate an error somewhere in the process. > >> Imagine that: truly effective communication. > > > > Empty list means no new packages found by the script. > > > > Or that something went wrong, which is why this discussion is taking place. The script can't know that as it just looks for new packages which left the build system. If you want more details about updates, subscribe to the cvs commits list where you could monitor actual package updates in cvs. Also, even when there was no problem in the build system, it has happened multiple times before that somebody was surprised to get no updates on a Sunday. Why not just wait a day or two, practise in patience and wait whether on the following days there will be updates again? -- Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) - Linux 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 loadavg: 1.06 1.16 1.08 From ivg2 at cornell.edu Tue May 17 10:26:58 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 06:26:58 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116324963.22682.17.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116324963.22682.17.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> Message-ID: <1116325618.16448.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 03:16 -0700, Aaron Kurtz wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 05:41 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > > This isn't yum's fault, this is just what happens when you use rawhide - > > > some packages get pushed out before their dependecies are properly met. > > > This has been mentioned over and over again, and should probably be part > > > of the Release Notes or something for test releases. > > > > What safeguards are there to ensure that this does not happen in > > Fedora-Updates, and why can't the same approach be applied to rawhide? > > Why should it be? The point of rawhide and test releases is development, > so what justifies slowing down what's pushed to rawhide? I disagree - the point of test releases is not development - it's stabilization. The point of rawhide may be development, but broken dependencies are unnecessary, and scare away the beta testers. A package which introduces dependency damage will not be tested, until the dependency damage is fixed - so why is it even released until that point? -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Tue May 17 10:37:37 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:37:37 +0000 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> Message-ID: thank you so much but i do agree with that other guy that there is no point in putting stuff on the update channels that cant even be ran yet becuase it uses packages that we can not get it makes no sence what is gained by having it out there just to make people have to type some more tags on there update command really anyone know some where that i can comment on this to a dev >From: Aaron Kurtz >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: ivg2 at cornell.edu,For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: yum error >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 02:13:26 -0700 > >On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 03:21 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > >On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 06:34 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote: > > > i am guessing but i need to update my kerrnel can some please give me >some > > > ideas on how to update with yum like to start how to update my kerrnel >sence > > > that seems to be my first issue > > > > Yum should update dependencies automatically - > > that's what it's designed for. > >This isn't yum's fault, this is just what happens when you use rawhide - >some packages get pushed out before their dependecies are properly met. >This has been mentioned over and over again, and should probably be part >of the Release Notes or something for test releases. > >yum --exclude=$package1 --exclude=$package2 $command will allow you to >update everything else but the kernel. Here, looking at what it's asking >for reveals that you have old kernel modules that haven't been updated >for the latest kernel release, so yum --exclude=kernel update. >-- >Aaron Kurtz > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From mitr at volny.cz Tue May 17 10:38:29 2005 From: mitr at volny.cz (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:38:29 +0200 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116325618.16448.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116324963.22682.17.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116325618.16448.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050517103824.GA5788@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 06:26:58AM -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > Why should it be? The point of rawhide and test releases is development, > > so what justifies slowing down what's pushed to rawhide? > > I disagree - the point of test releases is not development - it's > stabilization. But rawhide is _not_ a stable source of updates for the test release. A test release is a _single point in time_, with no scheduled updates. The development repo is enabled in test releases to allow further testing if you want to (e.g. to test bugs you reported about specific packages have been fixed). > The point of rawhide may be development, but broken > dependencies are unnecessary, and scare away the beta testers. I think they actually _protect_ the beta testers (from software not working because the dependencies changed). If dependencies are necessary, broken dependencies are necessary too. > A package which introduces dependency damage will not be tested, > until the dependency damage is fixed - so why is it even released > until that point? The package _has to be built_ before the "damage" can be fixed by updating other packages. Rawhide is just a collection of built packages. Nobody looks at the daily compose to decide whether to "release rawhide" or whether it is "not good enough". Rawhide just _happens_. Test and final releases are "released" and should contain no broken dependencies. During the freeze for FC 4 rawhide will more and more resemble a final release, but that's not caused by what rawhide is, or what rawhide should be; it is caused purely by what the final release should be. Mirek From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Tue May 17 10:40:43 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:40:43 +0000 Subject: yum error / update question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: is there a update that fixs the run away artds bug so that i can run KDE with out overloading the sound server and my cpu and gpu _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From fedora at nodata.co.uk Tue May 17 10:56:42 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:56:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <20050517122316.29ce21c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> <20050517104341.02cc2835.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <41542.213.164.3.90.1116319557.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <20050517122316.29ce21c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <55622.213.164.3.90.1116327402.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> >> Or that something went wrong, which is why this discussion is taking >> place. > > The script can't know that as it just looks for new packages which left > the build system. If you want more details about updates, subscribe to > the cvs commits list where you could monitor actual package updates in > cvs. I don't want any more information about updates. > Also, even when there was no problem in the build system, it has happened > multiple times before that somebody was surprised to get no updates on a > Sunday. > > Why not just wait a day or two, practise in patience and wait whether on > the following days there will be updates again? I never said that the problem was getting no updates. My point is that those that read the list will know that a empty list of updates packages _probably_ means that no packages were updated, but it is also likely that something went wrong. We won't know - we'll assume that it means no packages are updated. Those that are new to the list will see the cryptic e-mail and wonder if something is broken. Why not fix it? If no packages are updated, why announce it to the list? From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue May 17 11:15:24 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:15:24 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <55622.213.164.3.90.1116327402.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> <20050517104341.02cc2835.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <41542.213.164.3.90.1116319557.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <20050517122316.29ce21c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <55622.213.164.3.90.1116327402.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: <4289D24C.2040609@gmx.de> >My point is that those that read the list will know that a empty list of >updates packages _probably_ means that no packages were updated, but it is >also likely that something went wrong. We won't know - we'll assume that >it means no packages are updated. >Those that are new to the list will see the cryptic e-mail and wonder if >something is broken. Why not fix it? > >If no packages are updated, why announce it to the list? > than your question could be: hey, where is the daily rawhide-report ? this probably means that something is broken or no packages are updated ? -- shrek-m From fedora at nodata.co.uk Tue May 17 11:23:43 2005 From: fedora at nodata.co.uk (nodata) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:23:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <4289D24C.2040609@gmx.de> References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> <20050517104341.02cc2835.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <41542.213.164.3.90.1116319557.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <20050517122316.29ce21c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <55622.213.164.3.90.1116327402.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <4289D24C.2040609@gmx.de> Message-ID: <13894.213.164.3.90.1116329023.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> > >>My point is that those that read the list will know that a empty list of >>updates packages _probably_ means that no packages were updated, but it >> is >>also likely that something went wrong. We won't know - we'll assume that >>it means no packages are updated. >>Those that are new to the list will see the cryptic e-mail and wonder if >>something is broken. Why not fix it? >> >>If no packages are updated, why announce it to the list? >> > > than your question could be: > hey, where is the daily rawhide-report ? > this probably means that something is broken or no packages are updated > ? Excellent point! So you agree it needs fixing. Marvellous! From buildsys at redhat.com Tue May 17 12:00:53 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:00:53 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050517 changes Message-ID: <200505171200.j4HC0r6m024570@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: NetworkManager-0.4-15.cvs20050404 --------------------------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Dan Williams - 0.4-15.cvs30050404 - Fix dispatcher and applet CFLAGS so they gets compiled with FORTIFY_SOURCE * Mon May 16 2005 Dan Williams - 0.4-14.cvs30050404 - Fix segfault in NetworkManagerDispatcher, add an initscript for it * Mon May 16 2005 Dan Williams - 0.4-13.cvs30050404 - Fix condition that may have resulted in DHCP client returning success when it really timed out alsa-utils-1.0.9rc2-2 --------------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.0.9rc2-2 - make sure 'Wave' playback channel isn't muted (#157850) hwdata-0.158-1 -------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Bill Nottingham - 0.158-1 - add a orinoco card (#157482) kernel-2.6.11-1.1312_FC4 ------------------------ * Sat May 14 2005 Dave Jones - Update E1000 driver from netdev-2.6 tree. * Fri May 13 2005 Dave Jones - Bump maximum supported CPUs on x86-64 to 32. - Tickle the NMI watchdog when we're doing serial writes. - SCSI CAM geometry fix. - Slab debug single-bit error improvement. libsepol-1.5.8-1 ---------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Dan Walsh 1.5.8-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Added sepol_ prefix to Flask types to avoid namespace collision with libselinux. * Fri May 13 2005 Dan Walsh 1.5.7-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Added sepol_compute_av_reason() for audit2why. mdadm-1.11.0-4.fc4 ------------------ * Mon May 16 2005 Doug Ledford 1.11.0-4.fc4 - Make the mdmonitor init script use the pid-file option, major cleanup of the script now possible (#134459) * Mon May 16 2005 Doug Ledford 1.11.0-3.fc4 - Put back the obsoletes: raidtools that was present in 1.11.0-1.fc4 * Mon May 16 2005 Doug Ledford 1.11.0-2.fc4 - Change the default auto= mode so it need not be on the command line to work with udev, however it is still supported on the command line (#132706) - Add a man page (from Luca Berra) for mdassemble openssh-4.0p1-3 --------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Tomas Mraz 4.0p1-3 - link libselinux only to sshd (#157678) python-2.4.1-2 -------------- * Wed Apr 20 2005 Mihai Ibanescu 2.4.1-2 - Fixed bug #143667 (python should own /usr/lib/python* on 64-bit systems, for noarch packages) - Fixed bug #143419 (BuildRequires db4 is not versioned) squid-7:2.5.STABLE9-7 --------------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Jay Fenlason 7:2.5.STABLE9-7 - Upgrade the upstream -dns_query patch from -4 to -5 From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Tue May 17 12:06:03 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:06:03 +0200 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116325618.16448.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116324963.22682.17.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116325618.16448.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116331563.3736.13.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 06:26 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > I disagree I respectfully disagree with you. > - the point of test releases is not development With the exception of this one. That is, assuming you will install a test release and test just that. Meaning you will not be installing updates from rawhide. Once you are installing updates from rawhide you are essentially running rawhide which is a fast moving, unstable *development* tree with absolutely *no* guarantuee that it will install, work or keep working. Stick with test releases if you want to stay clear from possible dependency issues resulting from rawhide updates. > - it's > stabilization. The point of rawhide may be development, but broken > dependencies are unnecessary, and scare away the beta testers. Broken dependencies can only exist in rawhide. If you stick with testing just the official test release and stay away from rawhide then broken depencies will not bite you. Find bugs in the test release, report them if they have not been reported already, wait for the next test release, install that one, rinse and repeat. This is a most welcome contribution too. The entire dependency tree of FC4Tx is quite complex making broken dependencies a possibility. It's quite challenging to keep rawhide fully installable 100% of the time when development is going at a furious pace. I have never seen anyone complain about it until this thread started. And how difficult is it to use yum update --exclude=$package? It's rawhide, it's continuously changing, it can be highly unstable at times, it can eat your pets for breakfast. Frankly rawhide does not scare me away at all. I have been using it for a long time without going into shock and I think there are many, many others that have a similar experience. > A package which introduces dependency damage will not be tested, > until the dependency damage is fixed - so why is it even released > until that point? Because it is ready, because the developer wants to push it out and get on to the next thing on his/her todo list so deadlines are met, items can be signed off, PHB's are kept happy and Bill Gates continues having nightmares. Or perhaps because it is a dependecy of something that was pushed to rawhide earlier. The catch22 of rawhide moving forward. Obviously a package with missing dependencies can not be tested because it can not be installed *yet*. My experience is that in general it takes only a few hours to a day or so for any missing dependencies to be fixed. Works for me and afaict it works quite well for FC. Regards, Patrick From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue May 17 12:04:03 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:04:03 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <13894.213.164.3.90.1116329023.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> <20050517104341.02cc2835.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <41542.213.164.3.90.1116319557.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <20050517122316.29ce21c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <55622.213.164.3.90.1116327402.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <4289D24C.2040609@gmx.de> <13894.213.164.3.90.1116329023.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: <4289DDB3.9030906@gmx.de> nodata wrote: >Excellent point! So you agree it needs fixing. Marvellous! > my point of view: this discussion is worthless. even if it should be easy to fix it makes imho no sense to spend a few minutes only for minor cosmetical reasons. keep the daily rawhide report scripts as easy as possible. -- shrek-m From chrisw01 at privatei.com Tue May 17 12:06:20 2005 From: chrisw01 at privatei.com (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 06:06:20 -0600 Subject: Firefox-1.0.4 and Java In-Reply-To: <1116305192.6439.2.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1116288916.10637.6.camel@no1> <1116305192.6439.2.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1116331580.20310.6.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 21:46 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 20:15 -0400, Asa Canaway wrote: > > Okay, this seems odd, and I may be doing something wrong. I downloaded > > Java jre-1.0.5_02, and installed it, then linked (ln -s) to the > > javaplugin_oji.so (/usr/java/jre-1.5.0_02/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29) in > > Firefox plugins (/usr/lib/firefox-1.0.4/plugins), and then Firefox won't > > start. I remove the link, and Firefox starts! I've done this many > > times before. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug with Firefox > > (it works on my FC3 box), FC4T3 or even Java? > > > Java works for me in rawhide. > I use the jpackage.org nosrc.rpm to create java rpm's of Sun's j2sdk > 1.5.0 > Install them - and it just works. On x86 anyway. The standard Java RPMs from Sun actually work just fine. Instead of linking the version you are, link the libjavaplugin_oji.so in /usr/java/jre-1.5.0_02/plugin/i386/ns7/ to /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.4/plugins instead. Sun changed the structure so that the ns7-gcc29 folder is for gcc 2.9 an older and the regular ns7 folder contains the newer gcc versions. Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom From chrisw01 at privatei.com Tue May 17 12:16:15 2005 From: chrisw01 at privatei.com (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 06:16:15 -0600 Subject: FC4T3 Report, Dell Latitude D800 In-Reply-To: <1116318117.7275.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116031235.7378.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116242244.28782.0.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <1116318117.7275.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116332175.20310.12.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 01:21 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 07:17 -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 17:40 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > Flawless install. > > > > > > Am I the only one that has to disable SELINUX to get the closed source > > > NVIDIA driver to install correctly? > > > > That's a feature, not a bug ;) No, seriously, please file a bugzilla > > against selinux-policy-targeted with the relevant avc messages from > > your /var/log/audit/audit.log file. Thanks. > > > > -- > > Stephen Smalley > > National Security Agency > > > I think I would disagree with the need to file a bug against the Nvidia > drivers and SELinux. I don't want to sound to negative here as the > Nvidia closed source drivers are really great(luv the Doom3), but let's > not encourage the behavior of Nvidia in this regard. > > I would say that it is enough that the Livna folks know how to work > around the issue with their RPM and that we post this information > somewhere that it can be "Googled" easily. > > I would like other folks opinions in this matter. I respectfully disagree. *Not* fixing a bug in Fedora's selinux targeted policy because we disagree with the behavior of a closed source provider is ..well.. an immature response. NVidia's behavior with their drivers and Fedora's bugs are two separate issues and should be handled as such. So fix the bug. ...And then separately express displeasure with NVidia's behavior and keep the pressure on them, in a positive and professional way, to change their policy. Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 17 12:21:25 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:21:25 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050516 changes In-Reply-To: <55622.213.164.3.90.1116327402.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> References: <20050516232442.55054.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> <42893A85.3090605@BitWagon.com> <20050517104341.02cc2835.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <41542.213.164.3.90.1116319557.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> <20050517122316.29ce21c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <55622.213.164.3.90.1116327402.squirrel@www.nodata.co.uk> Message-ID: <604aa79105051705215cfede64@mail.gmail.com> On 5/17/05, nodata wrote: > I don't want any more information about updates. Wow.. someone who wants less communication. > My point is that those that read the list will know that a empty list of > updates packages _probably_ means that no packages were updated, but it is > also likely that something went wrong. We won't know - we'll assume that > it means no packages are updated. I don't see how you can programmatically tell if something went wrong or not in all cases. Some problems could very well look like no updates and the script could very well end up communicating the wrong information. I really don't think its worth the time taking what is probably a somewhat simple shell script and instrumenting it up into something that distiguishes why there are no updates. The worst thing you can do is give inaccurate information. That is why I haven't filed this as an RFE in bugzilla... have you? > If no packages are updated, why announce it to the list? I'm pretty sure getting things from cvs..to the buildserver.. and then into the public rawhide tree is a multistep process. The script that fires is just one of the last steps. If the script doesn't fire.. that could be an indication of certain types of problems. If there script reports no updates.. that could be an indication of problems at another step earlier on that the script has no control over. All we know is that the script ran and it saw no updates...the script could very well not be able to tell the difference between a problem and no updates in some situations. -jef From mengqingguang at 263.net Tue May 17 13:25:14 2005 From: mengqingguang at 263.net (mengqingguang at 263.net) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:25:14 +0800 Subject: ADSL connection cannot be started on the initializatoin steps Message-ID: <1116336314.4412.1.camel@flower.com> But I can start it manually. No more configurations are changed. So I wonder what happened with the ADSL connection. From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 17 13:44:25 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:44:25 -0500 Subject: vi behavior on directories changed Message-ID: <20050517134425.GA1946@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> In previous distributions applying vi to a directory displayed its contents, and files could be opened by moving the cursor over the file name and hitting return. That no longer works in FC4test3. Is this an advance or a retreat. -- ======================================================================= Getting kicked out of the American Bar Association is liked getting kicked out of the Book-of-the-Month Club. -- Melvin Belli on the occcasion of his getting kicked out of the American Bar Association ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 17 13:48:42 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:48:42 -0500 Subject: strange devmaps lines in messages file Message-ID: <20050517134842.GA1979@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> After installing FC4test3 we get the following error every 5 seconds in the messages file: May 15 03:53:00 Hardy multipathd: can't get devmaps ... retry May 15 03:53:05 Hardy multipathd: no devmap found Does anyone know what that means? -- ======================================================================= He's been like a father to me, He's the only DJ you can get after three, I'm an all-night musician in a rock and roll band, And why he don't like me I don't understand. -- The Byrds ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov Tue May 17 13:42:47 2005 From: robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:42:47 -0400 Subject: vi behavior on directories changed In-Reply-To: <20050517134425.GA1946@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517134425.GA1946@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116337367.3825.28.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 08:44 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > In previous distributions applying vi to a directory displayed its > contents, and files could be opened by moving the cursor over the file > name and hitting return. That no longer works in FC4test3. > > Is this an advance or a retreat. Does vim behave the same way? Here: rpm -q --whatprovides /bin/vi vim-minimal-6.3.071-3 rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/vim vim-enhanced-6.3.071-3 Bob... From nbc at cisco.com Tue May 17 13:45:28 2005 From: nbc at cisco.com (Neil B. Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:45:28 -0400 Subject: KsCD won't quit... Message-ID: <1116337528.17505.15.camel@nbc-linux.cisco.com> I'm running FC4T3 and after starting the KsCD applet, I find I can't get rid of it. I can close the applet, and close it from the system tray, but it randomly restarts - might be after 3 minutes, sometimes after 10, but it keeps restarting. Anyone know if this is a known bug - I have not seen it anywhere... thanks, nbc NAME: Neil B. Cohen (Cisco Systems Inc.) PHONE: 703-484-1316 DOMAIN: nbc at cisco.com ************************************************************* * Murphy's Philosophy: Smile - tomorrow will be worse... * * * * O'Tooles Commentary: Murphy was an optimist! * ************************************************************* From notting at redhat.com Tue May 17 14:19:06 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:19:06 -0400 Subject: strange devmaps lines in messages file In-Reply-To: <20050517134842.GA1979@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517134842.GA1979@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <20050517141906.GA29517@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) said: > After installing FC4test3 we get the following error every 5 seconds > in the messages file: > May 15 03:53:00 Hardy multipathd: can't get devmaps ... retry > May 15 03:53:05 Hardy multipathd: no devmap found > > Does anyone know what that means? The multipath daemon isn't finding a config or any multipath entries. You can turn off multipathd to get rid of the messages. Bill From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 17 14:20:56 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:20:56 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa79105051707201da4735c@mail.gmail.com> On 5/17/05, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > What safeguards are there to ensure that this does not happen in > Fedora-Updates, and why can't the same approach be applied to rawhide? As far as I know there are no inherent safeguards to prevent the standalone kernel module packages in core from becoming out of sync with the kernel updates. I'm not aware of a technical solution that triggers a rebuild of the standalone kernel module packages when a kernel update is pushed. I fully expect a day or two lag sometimes even for updates. The standalone kernel module packages are very atypical packages because they must match the exact kernel build.. they aren't simple library-like dependancy chains. But the way update tree operates will prevent the dependancy problem even if there is a couple days of lag between kernel and kernel-module package. Note fc4 is the first Core release that is going to have stand-alone kernel module packages, and I expect the process to evolve over several release time scales. You'll also note that yum doesn't update these kernel module packages.. they are allways installed so you can have multiple versions installed just like the kernel. If the kernel update lands in updates-testing first.. then this won't be a problem because there will be a few days where the kernel module packages to get built and pushed into updates-testing as well, and then they can all be moved over to updates-released for general consumption. The only people who notice will be the people who eat updates-testing..and well..there are inherent risks associated with updates-testing which are not dissimilar to rawhide risks. But I fully expect there to be situations with some kernel updates where the kernel update goes directly into updates-released because it was deemed critical to do so. In this case I expect the standalone kernel module packages to lag by a day. But even then you will not see the same problems you are seeing with rawhide right now with regard to the kernel module packages deps because of how the updates trees operate. The updates tree is VERY different than the rawhide tree in several important respects that affect how the stand-alone kernel module packages. First of all.. rawhide churns very very fast. In the last week(not including the weekend) there have been 4 or so kernel updates. Over the lifetime of the fc4 tree... the rate of change of updates is going to be much slower..and much easier for the human maintainer of the kernel module packages to stay well informed with each kernel package update and push module packages reliably even without the help of automation triggers. Second of all.. rawhide tree doesn't cache old versions of packages... the updates tree do. In the fc4 updates it will be possible to see a kernel update without the associated kernel modules for it for a short time. What you will not see is the dep problem we are seeing now because the older kernel will also be available for a period of time, long enough for the kernel modules to be built against the new update kernel. Practically speaking its going to be very difficult to get into a similar situation with broken kernel module packages deps in fc4 updates. If it ever happens in updates there is either a serious technical problem or someone is asleep at the wheel for like a month. > I think this behavior should be fixed, not documented. In a world with no perfect solutions...you learn to pick your battles. -jef From trulsg at broadpark.no Tue May 17 16:10:10 2005 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:10:10 +0200 Subject: IBM Thinkpad configuration Message-ID: <428A1762.508@broadpark.no> Hi, I am trying to install the TP configuration packages but without success. Using yum I get this output: [root at localhost ~]# yum install configure-thinkpad kernel-module-thinkpad tpctl Setting up Install Process Setting up repositories development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 extras-development 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 985 kB 00:18 developmen: ################################################## 3599/3599 Added 44 new packages, deleted 44 old in 8.32 seconds Parsing package install arguments No Match for argument: kernel-module-thinkpad Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package configure-thinkpad.i386 0:0.9-2 set to be updated ---> Package tpctl.i386 0:4.17-2 set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: kernel-module-thinkpad >= 3.2 for package: tpctl --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-module-thinkpad >= 3.2 is needed by package tpctl [root at localhost ~]# Do someone know how to work around this? Regards, Truls -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: trulsg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 153 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kewley at gps.caltech.edu Tue May 17 16:58:54 2005 From: kewley at gps.caltech.edu (David Kewley) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:58:54 -0700 Subject: KsCD won't quit... In-Reply-To: <1116337528.17505.15.camel@nbc-linux.cisco.com> References: <1116337528.17505.15.camel@nbc-linux.cisco.com> Message-ID: <200505170958.54651.kewley@gps.caltech.edu> Neil B. Cohen wrote on Tuesday 17 May 2005 06:45: > I'm running FC4T3 and after starting the KsCD applet, I find I can't get > rid of it. I can close the applet, and close it from the system tray, > but it randomly restarts - might be after 3 minutes, sometimes after 10, > but it keeps restarting. Anyone know if this is a known bug - I have not > seen it anywhere... Very likely this is because you have a CD in the drive, and the "autorun" program is running. Autorun is started in the default KDE install by ~/.kde/Autostart/Autorun.desktop, and when it sees a CD, it starts KsCD. Move that desktop file aside, kill autorun, kill KsCD, and you should no longer be plagued by an unwanted KsCD. David From mal42north at yahoo.com Tue May 17 15:16:26 2005 From: mal42north at yahoo.com (malcolm northcott) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:16:26 -0700 Subject: ipw2200 and network manager In-Reply-To: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> References: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> Message-ID: <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Just confirming that I saw exactly the same ipw2200 problem on my Thinkpad R51. I also noted that ACPI still does not work for sleep mode. On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 14:38 +0200, Dominik Schastok wrote: > Hi, > > I installed fc4 test 3 on my sony vaio s2vp and I?m having problems > setting up the wireless card. > The card can be found on the network manager but there it is listed as > an ethernet card, not a wireless. I didn?t find a config file to change > that and when I try to set up a new device, I can?t choose the Intel > IPW2200 card. > With the setting as a ethernet card, even with the ipw2200 firmware, the > interface can?t be used on my notebook. > I?m sure there is a simple solution for this, but I wasn?t able to find it. > I hope you can help me. > > Kind regards > Dominik Schastok > From bob-ewart at earthlink.net Tue May 17 16:21:35 2005 From: bob-ewart at earthlink.net (Bob Ewart) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:21:35 -0400 Subject: fsck fails on reiser partition in boot FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <20050517104721.7fa5698e.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <42895F15.8090109@earthlink.net> <20050517104721.7fa5698e.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <428A1A0F.4090802@earthlink.net> No, of course not. fdisk only reports that they are linux partitions. Disk geometry for /dev/sda: 0.000-190782.210 megabytes Disk label type: msdos Minor Start End Type Filesystem Flags 1 0.031 40962.612 primary ntfs boot, type=07 2 40962.612 43017.802 primary linux-swap type=82 3 43017.803 73735.839 primary reiserfs type=83 4 73735.840 190764.030 extended lba, type=0f 5 73735.871 94217.146 logical reiserfs type=83 6 94217.177 135179.758 logical reiserfs type=83 7 135179.789 190764.030 logical fat32 lba, type=0c Information: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary. Disk geometry for /dev/sdb: 0.000-239372.437 megabytes Disk label type: msdos Minor Start End Type Filesystem Flags 1 0.031 2055.190 primary linux-swap type=82 2 2055.190 43017.802 primary ext3 boot, type=83 3 43017.803 239351.242 extended lba, type=0f Information: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary. Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 5222 41945683+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 5223 5484 2104515 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 5485 9400 31455270 83 Linux /dev/sda4 9401 24319 119836867+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 9401 12011 20972826 83 Linux /dev/sda6 12012 17233 41945683+ 83 Linux /dev/sda7 17234 24319 56918263+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) Disk /dev/sdb: 251.0 GB, 251000193024 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30515 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 262 2104483+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdb2 * 263 5484 41945715 83 Linux /dev/sdb3 5485 30513 201045442+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) Michael Schwendt wrote: >On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:03:49 -0400, Bob Ewart wrote: > > > >>I have a multi-boot system with reiserfs partitions on sda3,5 and 6. >>Fedora is installed on sdb2. When I try to boot it fails saying that >>fsck.ext3 fails on /dev/sda6. This happens whether or not /dev/sda6 is >>in fstab. >> >> > >"parted /dev/sda print" _and_ "fdisk -l /dev/sda" both list the >partition as reiserfs? > > > -- -- Bob If you live to the age of a hundred you have it made because very few people die past the age of a hundred. -- George Burns -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ignitionworks at yahoo.com Tue May 17 17:14:56 2005 From: ignitionworks at yahoo.com (IgnitionWorks) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: strange devmaps lines in messages file In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050517171456.87182.qmail@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> > > May 15 03:53:05 Hardy multipathd: no devmap found > > Does anyone know what that means? > > The multipath daemon isn't finding a config or any > multipath entries. > > You can turn off multipathd to get rid of the > messages. Out of curiousity, why are all services turned on at boot? I assume this is to make it user friendly so that everything works 'out-of-the-box'. Are there thoughts to turn off non essential services at install and let user selectively turns on additional services he/she needs. This, in my opinion, would, 1. Reduce boot time to some extent 2. Increase security (unncedded services aren't running by default) 3. New users don't get overwhelmed with cryptic services Thanks, Josh Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html From david at fubar.dk Tue May 17 17:37:16 2005 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:37:16 -0400 Subject: Firefox's "Download location?" window under main window when dragging to Desktop In-Reply-To: <1116275500.3762.35.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1116275500.3762.35.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1116351436.4295.15.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 22:31 +0200, Patrick wrote: > Hi all, > > When I drag the icon left of a url in Firefox to the desktop it will > generate an (untitled) window with the text "Download location?" always > underneath the main firefox window. If I drag a link to a folder the > "Download location?" window pops up over the folder as it prolly should > work too for dragging to the Desktop. Known issue or do I bugzilla? > Couldn't find anything in bugzilla using this search: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora > +Core&version=fc4test1&version=fc4test2&version=fc4test3&component=firefox&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=INVESTIGATE&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc= > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157599 Dave From dcbw at redhat.com Tue May 17 17:40:08 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:40:08 -0400 Subject: ipw2200 and network manager In-Reply-To: <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116351608.11949.12.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 08:16 -0700, malcolm northcott wrote: > Just confirming that I saw exactly the same ipw2200 problem on my > Thinkpad R51. > I also noted that ACPI still does not work for sleep mode. Assuming the card is eth1, can you post the results of: find /sys/class/net/eth1 And also attach the output of "lshal" command to a reply? Also make sure your firmware is in /lib/firmware. Thanks! Dan From justin.conover at gmail.com Tue May 17 17:55:58 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:55:58 -0500 Subject: java compiler "sdk" ? Message-ID: I'm starting to learn java and I'm a little confused with all the java "stuff" in rawhide, is: # yum info gcc-java.x86_64 Installed Packages Name : gcc-java Arch : x86_64 Version: 4.0.0 Release: 5 Size : 5.3 M Repo : installed Summary: Java support for gcc. Description: The gcc-java package adds experimental support for compiling Java(TM) programs and bytecode into native code. To do this, you will also need to install the Java runtime library included in the gcc-libgcj package. Comparable to Sun's j2sdk? What would I use to learn/compile java code? TIA From justin.conover at gmail.com Tue May 17 17:58:13 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:58:13 -0500 Subject: java compiler "sdk" ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5/17/05, Justin Conover wrote: > I'm starting to learn java and I'm a little confused with all the java > "stuff" in rawhide, is: > > # yum info gcc-java.x86_64 > Installed Packages > Name : gcc-java > Arch : x86_64 > Version: 4.0.0 > Release: 5 > Size : 5.3 M > Repo : installed > Summary: Java support for gcc. > > Description: > The gcc-java package adds experimental support for compiling Java(TM) > programs and bytecode into native code. To do this, you will also need > to install the Java runtime library included in the gcc-libgcj > package. > > Comparable to Sun's j2sdk? > > What would I use to learn/compile java code? > > TIA > Or I guess this is the samething huh? # whereis javac javac: /usr/bin/javac # /usr/bin/javac -version Eclipse Java Compiler 0.548, pre-3.1.0 milestone-6, Copyright IBM Corp 2000, 2005. All rights reserved. # yum info eclipse-ecj-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.16 Installed Packages Name : eclipse-ecj Arch : x86_64 Version: 3.1.0_fc Release: 0.M6.16 Size : 23 M Repo : installed Summary: Eclipse Compiler for Java Description: Eclipse compiler for Java. ]# yum info eclipse-jdt-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.16 Installed Packages Name : eclipse-jdt Arch : x86_64 Version: 3.1.0_fc Release: 0.M6.16 Size : 60 M Repo : installed Summary: Eclipse Java development tools Description: Eclipse Java developments tools. From johnp at redhat.com Tue May 17 18:02:21 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:02:21 -0400 Subject: java compiler "sdk" ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116352941.28032.16.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> "The gcc-java package adds experimental support" It does not fully support all of the JDK features just yet but it is slowly getting there. Check out their home page for more info http://gcc.gnu.org/java/index.html. On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:55 -0500, Justin Conover wrote: > I'm starting to learn java and I'm a little confused with all the java > "stuff" in rawhide, is: > > # yum info gcc-java.x86_64 > Installed Packages > Name : gcc-java > Arch : x86_64 > Version: 4.0.0 > Release: 5 > Size : 5.3 M > Repo : installed > Summary: Java support for gcc. > > Description: > The gcc-java package adds experimental support for compiling Java(TM) > programs and bytecode into native code. To do this, you will also need > to install the Java runtime library included in the gcc-libgcj > package. > > Comparable to Sun's j2sdk? > > What would I use to learn/compile java code? > > TIA > -- John (J5) Palmieri Associate Software Engineer Desktop Group Red Hat, Inc. Blog: http://martianrock.com From justin.conover at gmail.com Tue May 17 18:04:59 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:59 -0500 Subject: java compiler "sdk" ? In-Reply-To: <1116352941.28032.16.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> References: <1116352941.28032.16.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 5/17/05, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > "The gcc-java package adds experimental support" > > It does not fully support all of the JDK features just yet but it is > slowly getting there. Check out their home page for more info > http://gcc.gnu.org/java/index.html. > John (J5) Palmieri > Associate Software Engineer > Desktop Group > Red Hat, Inc. > Blog: http://martianrock.com > > Ok, a little more confusion on my part, if in the before exapmle javac -version was pointing to eclipse, why do I get this with alternatives: # alternatives --display javac javac - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj/bin/javac /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj/bin/javac - priority 1420 slave java_sdk: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj slave java_sdk_exports: /usr/lib/jvm-exports/java-1.4.2-gcj slave javadoc: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj/bin/javadoc slave javah: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj/bin/javah slave jar: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj/bin/jar slave rmic: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj/bin/rmic Current `best' version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj/bin/javac From caf at omen.com Tue May 17 18:06:14 2005 From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:06:14 -0700 Subject: FC4T3 P4 ATI 9600 Dell 2405 In-Reply-To: <20050517160039.DC92D73A32@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050517160039.DC92D73A32@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116353174.18714.30.camel@omen.com> Not too long ago I added a 250 G SATA drive to my office computer, a P4 on an ASUS P4C800 Deluxe. By changing the drive order in the BIOS I can boot either the new regime or the tired old copy of XP. Mandrake installed and ran without problems, correctly identifying which drive to put the boot loader on and correctly setting the 1920x1200 resolution for the display. FC4T3 did not do as well. The first attempt wiped out a partition or two, and the boot loader was installed somewhere where it didn't do anything. Second time I restored the lost partitions and used the advanced boot loader option to put the loader on the MBR of the SATA drive. There were copious complaints about an invalid partition table but I was able to dismiss them and proceed. The obvious problem now is the display. I selected 1920x1200 but the screen display is squeezed horizontally. At lease Fedora Core did not scramble the drive parameters. Perhaps SATA drives are immune to this. -- Chuck Forsberg caf at omen.com www.omen.com 503-614-0430 Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software" 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 FAX 629-0665 From notting at redhat.com Tue May 17 19:32:04 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:32:04 -0400 Subject: strange devmaps lines in messages file In-Reply-To: <20050517171456.87182.qmail@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050517171456.87182.qmail@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050517193204.GB20209@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> IgnitionWorks (ignitionworks at yahoo.com) said: > > > May 15 03:53:05 Hardy multipathd: no devmap found > > > Does anyone know what that means? > > > > The multipath daemon isn't finding a config or any > > multipath entries. > > > > You can turn off multipathd to get rid of the > > messages. > > Out of curiousity, why are all services turned on at > boot? I assume this is to make it user friendly so > that everything works 'out-of-the-box'. Most aren't, actually. This one could potentially be disabled, though. Bill From chandana at desilva.id.au Tue May 17 19:32:10 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 05:32:10 +1000 Subject: FC4 and Cisco Vpn Client Message-ID: <1116358331.3658.7.camel@chandana.dis> I am trying to get the Cisco VPN Client V 4.6.02.0030-k9. I seem to be able to compile it ok, but when I try to run it, I get the message : The profile specified could not be read. I have tried giving the full file name on the command line : vpnclient connect /etc/opt/cisco-vpnclient/Profiles/myprof.pcf I hope someone can help me. This worked ok on FC2 with Kernel 2.6.10 Here is the full response: ----------------------------------------------------- [chandana at chandana ~]$ vpnclient connect /etc/CiscoSystemsVPNClient/Profiles/melbvpn.pcf Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.6.02 (0030) Copyright (C) 1998-2004 Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Client Type(s): Linux Running on: Linux 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 #1 Wed May 4 11:13:05 EDT 2005 i686 Config file directory: /etc/opt/cisco-vpnclient The profile specified could not be read. ------------------------------------------ This is the log: ------- Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.6.02 (0030) Copyright (C) 1998-2004 Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Client Type(s): Linux Running on: Linux 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 #1 Wed May 4 11:13:05 EDT 2005 i686 Config file directory: /etc/opt/cisco-vpnclient 1 05:31:04.777 05/18/2005 Sev=Warning/3 CLI/0x83900004 Unable to purge old log files. Function returned -1. 2 05:31:04.836 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CVPND/0x4340001F Privilege Separation: restoring MTU on primary interface. 3 05:31:04.842 05/18/2005 Sev=Debug/7 CM/0x43100033 Auto-initiation watch: started 4 05:31:04.847 05/18/2005 Sev=Debug/7 CM/0x43100033 Auto-initiation watch: interface change handler invoked 5 05:31:04.853 05/18/2005 Sev=Debug/7 CM/0x43100033 Auto-initiation watch: auto-initiation is currently disabled 6 05:31:04.859 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CVPND/0x4340000F Started cvpnd: Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.6.02 (0030) Copyright (C) 1998-2004 Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Client Type(s): Linux Running on: Linux 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 #1 Wed May 4 11:13:05 EDT 2005 i686 7 05:31:05.823 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x43700014 Deleted all keys 8 05:31:05.824 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x43700008 IPSec driver successfully started 9 05:31:05.824 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x43700014 Deleted all keys 10 05:31:05.824 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x43700014 Deleted all keys 11 05:31:05.825 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x4370000A IPSec driver successfully stopped 12 05:31:05.827 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CLI/0x43900002 Started vpnclient: Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.6.02 (0030) Copyright (C) 1998-2004 Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Client Type(s): Linux Running on: Linux 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 #1 Wed May 4 11:13:05 EDT 2005 i686 13 05:31:05.831 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CVPND/0x4340000C Stopped service: 14 05:31:05.832 05/18/2005 Sev=Debug/7 CM/0x43100033 Auto-initiation watch: stopped 15 05:31:05.854 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CVPND/0x4340001F Privilege Separation: restoring MTU on primary interface. From shiva at sewingwitch.com Tue May 17 19:19:32 2005 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:19:32 -0700 Subject: [Logwatch-Announce] Logwatch 6.1 Released (fwd) Message-ID: This is probably too late to make it into FC4 but maybe it could be an early errata? Those who want to test it early can grab and rebuild the SRPM from the Logwatch website. ------------ Forwarded Message ------------ Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:03 AM -0700 From: Kirk Bauer To: logwatch-announce at kaybee.org, logwatch at kaybee.org, logwatch-devel at kaybee.org Subject: [Logwatch-Announce] Logwatch 6.1 Released Logwatch 6.1 has been released and is available from www.logwatch.org. Thanks again to Bjorn for putting this release together, and thanks to everybody else for your patch submissions. It sure makes our lives easier :) Lots of incremental improvements and clean-up and bug fixes, and some new features: - Significant improvements for the --range option (run --range help for info) - New services added: audit, sonicwall, and zz-network (must be enabled in logwatch.conf to make it active) - Added --numeric to inhibit certain DNS lookups -- Kirk Bauer http://linux.kaybee.org | www.autorpm.org | www.logwatch.org _______________________________________________ Logwatch-Announce mailing list Logwatch-Announce at logwatch.org http://www2.list.logwatch.org:81/lists/listinfo/logwatch-announce ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- From chandana at desilva.id.au Tue May 17 19:53:58 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 05:53:58 +1000 Subject: Pronlem with Intel 82810e DC-133 CC Video Controller In-Reply-To: <4287D647.4030904@insight.rr.com> References: <1116102629.4970.15.camel@chandana.dis> <42867477.5020109@insight.rr.com> <1116138680.4970.18.camel@chandana.dis> <4287D647.4030904@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1116359639.3658.10.camel@chandana.dis> I re-tried my install of FC 3.92. This time I chose "1024X768 - Thousands Of Colours" rather than "1024X768 - Millions Of Colours" as I did the pervious time when the screen went blank. This time round, the screen behaved itself. Chandana On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 19:07 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Chandana De Silva wrote: > > Sorry I could not reply earlier. I set the resolution to 1024x768 at 16 and > > the hit ok, when the screen went blank. I am attaching xorg.conf for > > your information. > > > > I was able to get a blank screen once when I tried FC4T2 version of X at > 1280x1024 at 24 when launching ppcracer. The problem did not show at > 1024x768 at 16 and ppcracer did not reveal any defects with X, other than > the blue border in the virtual terminals. > > I did not use noaccel as an option during the tests. > > To get the blank screen, launch ppcracer, then escape to get out of the > program. Notice unresponsiveness and switch to a virtual terminal. > Notice the blue border around the visible text. > Once you are back to the GUI (screen 7), notice the blank screen. to > exit the GUI (runlevel 3), hit ctl-alt-backspace. Once the server is > destroyed, launch X again. X comes back up normally. > > Ppcracer was not as unresponsive during the relaunch of X and I did not > change to a virtual terminal. There might be a problem with the driver > now blanking, but it is not 100% reproducable during the tests that I did. > > Are there any other users of FC4T3 having similar blank screens? > > Jim > From kms at passback.co.uk Tue May 17 19:59:51 2005 From: kms at passback.co.uk (Keith Sharp) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:59:51 +0100 Subject: IBM Thinkpad configuration In-Reply-To: <428A1762.508@broadpark.no> References: <428A1762.508@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <1116359992.3409.7.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 18:10 +0200, Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to install the TP configuration packages but without > success. Using yum I get this output: > > [root at localhost ~]# yum install configure-thinkpad > kernel-module-thinkpad tpctl > Setting up Install Process > Setting up repositories > development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > extras-development 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 985 kB 00:18 > developmen: ################################################## 3599/3599 > Added 44 new packages, deleted 44 old in 8.32 seconds > Parsing package install arguments > No Match for argument: kernel-module-thinkpad > Resolving Dependencies > --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. > ---> Package configure-thinkpad.i386 0:0.9-2 set to be updated > ---> Package tpctl.i386 0:4.17-2 set to be updated > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: kernel-module-thinkpad >= 3.2 for package: tpctl > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-module-thinkpad >= 3.2 is needed by > package tpctl > [root at localhost ~]# > > Do someone know how to work around this? On FC3 I solved this by upgrading my kernel from 2.6.9 to 2.6.11. I have not upgraded my laptop to FC4T3 yet so I don't know if it just works! Keith. From eolson at MIT.EDU Tue May 17 19:58:35 2005 From: eolson at MIT.EDU (Edwin Olson) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:58:35 -0400 Subject: bug 152131: kasteroids doesn't see key releases Message-ID: <428A4CEB.5060104@mit.edu> A number of kde games do not see key releases on my system. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=152131 This bug was opened on fc3, but the problem remains on fc4t2+rawhide updates. My suspicion is that the problem is in kdelib, since multiple games are affected (i.e., also kspaceduel). -Ed From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 17 20:18:36 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:18:36 -0500 Subject: vi behavior on directories changed In-Reply-To: <1116337367.3825.28.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <20050517134425.GA1946@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116337367.3825.28.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20050517201836.GA3017@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 09:42:47AM -0400, Bob Chiodini wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 08:44 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > > In previous distributions applying vi to a directory displayed its > > contents, and files could be opened by moving the cursor over the file > > name and hitting return. That no longer works in FC4test3. > > > > Is this an advance or a retreat. > > > > Does vim behave the same way? > > Here: > > rpm -q --whatprovides /bin/vi > vim-minimal-6.3.071-3 > > rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/vim > vim-enhanced-6.3.071-3 > > Bob... No vim behaves like vi used to. I can see why that might be. -- ======================================================================= The Great Movie Posters: HOT STEEL BETWEEN THEIR LEGS! -- The Cycle Savages (1969) The Hand that Rocks the Cradle... Has no Flesh on It! -- Who Slew Auntie Roo? (1971) TWO GREAT BLOOD HORRORS TO RIP OUT YOUR GUTS! -- I Eat Your Skin & I Drink Your Blood (1971 double-bill) They Went In People and Came Out Hamburger! -- The Corpse Grinders (1971) ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From trulsg at broadpark.no Tue May 17 20:09:16 2005 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:09:16 +0200 Subject: IBM Thinkpad configuration In-Reply-To: <1116359992.3409.7.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> References: <428A1762.508@broadpark.no> <1116359992.3409.7.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> Message-ID: <428A4F6C.9020603@broadpark.no> Keith Sharp wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 18:10 +0200, Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > >>Hi, >>I am trying to install the TP configuration packages but without >>success. Using yum I get this output: >> >>[root at localhost ~]# yum install configure-thinkpad >>kernel-module-thinkpad tpctl >>Setting up Install Process >>Setting up repositories >>development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 >>extras-development 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 >>Reading repository metadata in from local files >>primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 985 kB 00:18 >>developmen: ################################################## 3599/3599 >>Added 44 new packages, deleted 44 old in 8.32 seconds >>Parsing package install arguments >>No Match for argument: kernel-module-thinkpad >>Resolving Dependencies >>--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. >>---> Package configure-thinkpad.i386 0:0.9-2 set to be updated >>---> Package tpctl.i386 0:4.17-2 set to be updated >>--> Running transaction check >>--> Processing Dependency: kernel-module-thinkpad >= 3.2 for package: tpctl >>--> Finished Dependency Resolution >>Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-module-thinkpad >= 3.2 is needed by >>package tpctl >>[root at localhost ~]# >> >>Do someone know how to work around this? > > > On FC3 I solved this by upgrading my kernel from 2.6.9 to 2.6.11. I > have not upgraded my laptop to FC4T3 yet so I don't know if it just > works! > > Keith. > The above resulted from trying to install the TP configuration to an IBM TP 30 running FC4t3 with the latest updates. It is the same result on my TP23 running FC3 with the lates updates. Regards, Truls -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 17 21:01:28 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:01:28 +0100 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116363688.18452.3.camel@localhost> Hi, > On every other fedora or redhat list people get flamed for top > posting. But on the fedora-test-list top posting is common. > What is the deal? No idea. Those who top post should be randomly shot. Preferably with a Win32 or AOL CD. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mwiktowy at gmx.net Tue May 17 21:09:32 2005 From: mwiktowy at gmx.net (Michael Wiktowy) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:09:32 -0400 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116363688.18452.3.camel@localhost> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116363688.18452.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <428A5D8C.8070409@gmx.net> Paul wrote: >Hi, > > > >>On every other fedora or redhat list people get flamed for top >>posting. But on the fedora-test-list top posting is common. >>What is the deal? >> >> > >No idea. Those who top post should be randomly shot. Preferably with a >Win32 or AOL CD. > >TTFN > >Paul > > My guess would be that fedora-test-list is a kinder and gentler list than the others ;] ... or something like that ... Perhaps this discussion should be taken to fedora-mailing-list-list ... /Mike From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 17 21:15:22 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:15:22 +0100 Subject: X11 or freeglut problem Message-ID: <1116364522.18452.8.camel@localhost> Hi, I've written a small demo program using OpenGL. It compiles fine, but when I come to run it I get the following error freeglut (./simple): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' My xorg.conf file looks like this (cut down a bit - but still with all the configs in it) # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "single head configuration" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "PHILIPS 107E" DisplaySize 310 230 HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nv" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX (generic)" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection Any ideas where the problem lies? TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue May 17 21:50:28 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:50:28 -0500 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116366628.27167.41.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 15:40 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > On every other fedora or redhat list people get flamed for top > posting. But on the fedora-test-list top posting is common. > What is the deal? Better manners/more maturity on this list. Thomas From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Tue May 17 21:51:52 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:51:52 -0300 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116363688.18452.3.camel@localhost> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116363688.18452.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1116366713.31206.5.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Em Ter, 2005-05-17 ?s 22:01 +0100, Paul escreveu: > > On every other fedora or redhat list people get flamed for top > > posting. But on the fedora-test-list top posting is common. > > What is the deal? > No idea. Those who top post should be randomly shot. Preferably with a > Win32 or AOL CD. Maybe because people just blew their systems with the latest rahwide update, and are using the nearest outlook express to report something... :-) From michal at harddata.com Tue May 17 22:00:47 2005 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:00:47 -0600 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116366628.27167.41.camel@ml110.camerontech.com>; from thomas.cameron@camerontech.com on Tue, May 17, 2005 at 04:50:28PM -0500 References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116366628.27167.41.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> Message-ID: <20050517160047.B14263@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 04:50:28PM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 15:40 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > > On every other fedora or redhat list people get flamed for top > > posting. But on the fedora-test-list top posting is common. > > What is the deal? > > Better manners/more maturity on this list. If that would be true we would be not seeing top posting. M. From pjones at redhat.com Tue May 17 22:22:30 2005 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:22:30 -0400 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116368550.3898.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 15:40 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > On every other fedora or redhat list people get flamed for top > posting. But on the fedora-test-list top posting is common. > What is the deal? Here we add you to a private list of people whom we plan to subject to horrible, horrible actions. It's just as bad (Maybe worse, depends on the action. Sometimes it's karaoke!) but it takes longer to notice. Just don't do it and there won't be a problem. -- Peter From whatsizbucket at comcast.net Tue May 17 23:16:20 2005 From: whatsizbucket at comcast.net (whatsizbucket at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:16:20 +0000 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues.. Message-ID: <051720052316.24738.428A7B44000B0C54000060A222058844849B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> It seems that with the regressions made in the 2.6.11 kernel, we've taken a step backwards when it comes to laptops with the Synaptic Touchpad. I have chosen the Synaptic touchpad driver from the install (since anaconda didn't find it during the beginning hardware probe). I've read Bugzilla reports that support for it stops when the kernel hits 2.6.11, so I'm wondering what I can do to try to motivate this installer in finding my Compaq Presario's (R4000 series) touchpad, or is it mostly a kernel issue? Thanks! -Jason From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Tue May 17 23:26:20 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:26:20 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> Message-ID: <428A7D9C.9040402@insight.rr.com> Aaron Kurtz wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 03:21 -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > >>On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 06:34 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote: >> >>>i am guessing but i need to update my kerrnel can some please give me some >>>ideas on how to update with yum like to start how to update my kerrnel sence >>>that seems to be my first issue >> >>Yum should update dependencies automatically - >>that's what it's designed for. > > > This isn't yum's fault, this is just what happens when you use rawhide - > some packages get pushed out before their dependecies are properly met. > This has been mentioned over and over again, and should probably be part > of the Release Notes or something for test releases. > > yum --exclude=$package1 --exclude=$package2 $command will allow you to > update everything else but the kernel. Here, looking at what it's asking > for reveals that you have old kernel modules that haven't been updated > for the latest kernel release, so yum --exclude=kernel update. The problem does not limit installing additional kernels. I can install everything except the below rpms. As earlier stated, the current rawhide versions require a kernel version that does not exist in rawhide and is going on still, after some time. Yum still needs a "best effort" updating routine. This is an RFI (request for improvement) feature though. Kernel-2.6.11-1.1312_FC4 installed with little trouble. yum --exclude= -y update Jim yum check-update ... Reading repository metadata in from local files GFS-kernel.i686 2.6.11.5-20050505.1338 development cman-kernel.i686 2.6.11.3-20050425.1548 development dlm-kernel.i686 2.6.11.3-20050425.1548 development gnbd-kernel.i686 2.6.11.2-20050420.1331 development libcdio.i386 0.73-2 Extras -- Will LINUX ever overtake sliced bread as the #1 achievement of mankind? From cimmo at libero.it Tue May 17 23:46:24 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 01:46:24 +0200 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> akonstam at trinity.edu ha scritto: >On every other fedora or redhat list people get flamed for top >posting. But on the fedora-test-list top posting is common. >What is the deal? > > I think top-posting is not worse than bottom-posting, with long long long email in reply. There are times that you read 1 row and N-1 they are old email in reply. To understand the meaning of a reply most of the times you need only some part of the email in reply and not all the lines that have to be scrolled for seconds... IMHO bye From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 17 23:47:35 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 00:47:35 +0100 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg Message-ID: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> Hi, I've installed the nVidia drivers on my FC4t3 box and have altered xorg.conf so that dri is hashed out and nv is replaced with nvidia. Only problem is that if I reboot, dri reappears and nv replaces nvidia. Is there anyway to stop this from happening? TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From dietze.sebastian at mac.com Sat May 14 06:33:49 2005 From: dietze.sebastian at mac.com (dietze.sebastian at mac.com) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 08:33:49 +0200 Subject: Problems during FC4-Test3 installation on my PowerBook Message-ID: Yesterday i downloaded the DVD iso image via Bittorent. Everything goes fine (boot, DVD testing) till Anaconda starts the X-server. After that nothing happend. My monitor stayed black and i couldn't switch to a console. How can i solve this problem? With FC4-Test 2 there are no problems. Sebastian From byte at aeon.com.my Wed May 18 00:07:49 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:07:49 +1000 Subject: ipw2200 and network manager In-Reply-To: <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116374869.4564.367.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 08:16 -0700, malcolm northcott wrote: > Just confirming that I saw exactly the same ipw2200 problem on my > Thinkpad R51. > I also noted that ACPI still does not work for sleep mode. My R51 uses ipw2100, and sleep does work. What kind of video card did you get? 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) FWIW, the models with the Radeon's I've heard complaints of it not sleeping -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed May 18 00:12:36 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:12:36 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <604aa79105051707201da4735c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79105051707201da4735c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <428A8874.90203@insight.rr.com> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/17/05, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > >>What safeguards are there to ensure that this does not happen in >>Fedora-Updates, and why can't the same approach be applied to rawhide? > > > As far as I know there are no inherent safeguards to prevent the > standalone kernel module packages in core from becoming out of sync > with the kernel updates. I'm not aware of a technical solution that > triggers a rebuild of the standalone kernel module packages when a > kernel update is pushed. This sounds like a great way to get these modules to match up w/ the installed kernel. Good luck to the wizard that can make this sort of solution happen. I fully expect a day or two lag sometimes > even for updates. > The standalone kernel module packages are very atypical packages > because they must match the exact kernel build.. they aren't simple > library-like dependancy chains. But the way update tree operates will > prevent the dependancy problem even if there is a couple days of lag > between kernel and kernel-module package. Note fc4 is the first Core > release that is going to have stand-alone kernel module packages, and > I expect the process to evolve over several release time scales. > You'll also note that yum doesn't update these kernel module > packages.. they are allways installed so you can have multiple > versions installed just like the kernel. Thanks for pointing this out relating to the stand-alone modules. I had over 5 versions of each for the modules that are causing the stir on this list (*-kernel). I only have three kernels installed. > > If the kernel update lands in updates-testing first.. then this won't .. > > Second of all.. rawhide tree doesn't cache old versions of packages... > the updates tree do. > In the fc4 updates it will be possible to see a kernel update without > the associated kernel modules for it for a short time. What you will > not see is the dep problem we are seeing now because the older kernel > will also be available for a period of time, long enough for the > kernel modules to be built against the new update kernel. Practically > speaking its going to be very difficult to get into a similar > situation with broken kernel module packages deps in fc4 updates. If > it ever happens in updates there is either a serious technical problem > or someone is asleep at the wheel for like a month. > > >>I think this behavior should be fixed, not documented. > > > In a world with no perfect solutions...you learn to pick your battles. It looks like we will have a lot of installed standalone modules for kernels that are no longer available. I deleted all of the prior versions prior to this query. The query will be very long once many standalone modules exist. This might be a battle worth supporting before it becomes a severe problem. rpm -qa |grep kernel kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1305_FC4 GFS-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050426.134031.FC4.9 kernel-2.6.11-1.1282_FC4 kernel-2.6.11-1.1312_FC4 gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.10 kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1312_FC4 dlm-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.6 cman-kernel-2.6.11.3-20050425.154843.FC4.5 kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1282_FC4 kernel-2.6.11-1.1305_FC4 kernel-doc-2.6.11-1.1312_FC4 Jim > > -jef > -- Will LINUX ever overtake sliced bread as the #1 achievement of mankind? From whatsizbucket at comcast.net Wed May 18 00:12:48 2005 From: whatsizbucket at comcast.net (whatsizbucket at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 00:12:48 +0000 Subject: Problems during FC4-Test3 installation on my PowerBook Message-ID: <051820050012.13933.428A888000062D1D0000366D22070029539B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> > Yesterday i downloaded the DVD iso image via Bittorent. Everything > goes fine (boot, DVD testing) till Anaconda starts the X-server. > After that nothing happend. My monitor stayed black and i couldn't > switch to a console. Have you tried the nofb switch? I found that was the issue with my install. > How can i solve this problem? > > With FC4-Test 2 there are no problems. > > Sebastian > Have you tried the nofb switch? I found that was the issue with my install. when starting the anaconda installer, put in 'linux nofb' as the command line, since your issue seems alot like mine was. -Jason From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 18 00:18:42 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:18:42 -0500 Subject: Install problem, FC4 Test 3 DVD In-Reply-To: <051620051109.21960.42887F62000AFC75000055C822070032019B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> References: <051620051109.21960.42887F62000AFC75000055C822070032019B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> Message-ID: <428A89E2.6050305@earthlink.net> whatsizbucket at comcast.net wrote: >>When I boot from the DVD version of FC4 Test 3, with either the x86 or >>x86_64 version, the install gets to the point where you choose 'install >>from cdrom', and then ejects the DVD, and asks for the CD-Rom of Fedora. >> >>Has anyone else had this problem? > > > I just ran into it. the DVD just got spat out twice. Any theories as to why it rejects the DVD guys? > > -Jason > I hope you've inserted the DVD into a DVD reader drive, not a CD only drive. My DVD installed just fine on my machine. Gerry From rodd at clarkson.id.au Wed May 18 00:48:51 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:48:51 +1000 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. Message-ID: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Hi All, I've got a bug files in bugzilla to get a "1920x1200 Laptop Display Panel" included under the Dell heading in system-config-display, but I need the INF file (which for various reasons, none nefarious, I can't supply). If someone on this list could obtain this file, could they post it to the bug below so that this could be addressed? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=151876 Thanks in advance 8-] Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From whatsizbucket at comcast.net Wed May 18 00:56:08 2005 From: whatsizbucket at comcast.net (whatsizbucket at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 00:56:08 +0000 Subject: Install problem, FC4 Test 3 DVD Message-ID: <051820050056.12223.428A92A80003016800002FBF22058860149B0A050C9A0D96079C9B0E0899@comcast.net> > whatsizbucket at comcast.net wrote: > >>When I boot from the DVD version of FC4 Test 3, with either the x86 or > >>x86_64 version, the install gets to the point where you choose 'install > >>from cdrom', and then ejects the DVD, and asks for the CD-Rom of Fedora. > >> > >>Has anyone else had this problem? > > > > > > I just ran into it. the DVD just got spat out twice. Any theories as to why > it rejects the DVD guys? > > > > -Jason > > > I hope you've inserted the DVD into a DVD reader drive, not a CD only > drive. My DVD installed just fine on my machine. > > Gerry The system is equipped with a DVD+RW drive... but I found that it was a corrupt burn. This could be the case in this situation. Mkae sure that you don;t get a funky distro off the torrent. Run SHA1SUM checking to make sure it isn't cracked up. That how I fixed it. *grin* Now... for that blasted Synaptic Touchpad issue.. -Jason From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 18 01:24:49 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:24:49 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <428A8874.90203@insight.rr.com> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79105051707201da4735c@mail.gmail.com> <428A8874.90203@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <604aa79105051718245f0e1a14@mail.gmail.com> On 5/17/05, Jim Cornette wrote: > It looks like we will have a lot of installed standalone modules for > kernels that are no longer available. I deleted all of the prior > versions prior to this query. The query will be very long once many > standalone modules exist. This might be a battle worth supporting before > it becomes a severe problem. if you arent actively using or actively testing the gfs or clustering stuff.. just remove those kernel module packages... and avoid the support issue completely. -jef From thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net Wed May 18 02:14:44 2005 From: thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net (Darwin H. Webb) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:14:44 -0700 Subject: Samba Home Share name is username, windows any share is username Message-ID: <1116382485.4191.18.camel@Jovette-14> The default share name for the home/username is username. The new SELinux check box (allow home dir to be shared) seems to automatically create the share? as I removed it after checking the SELinux check box. And this is why. A Windows share created on the linux desktop defaults to a name of username or username(2) and can not be renamed. This is a workgroup so at first time access (either side of the net) it is auth with a username and password. But now when the Windows share is opened for the first use, the wondow comes up white with hour glass mouse pointer. It stays that way unitl the close x is clicked and conformation to force close the window. Then out of the blue, the /home/username folder pops up as if one had clicked on Home. Close that and try another route. Click on properties of windows share and it asks for wondws password, accepts it and shows properties. Close that and clcik on windows share again, ask for windows password, accepts, and open the shre with files in the windows correctly. The double use of user name needs to be checked on? And if the windows shares can be renamed different than user name, username(2), etc. The username all over the desktop is not very secure either. :) Thank you, From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed May 18 02:17:11 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:17:11 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <604aa79105051718245f0e1a14@mail.gmail.com> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79105051707201da4735c@mail.gmail.com> <428A8874.90203@insight.rr.com> <604aa79105051718245f0e1a14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <428AA5A7.6020505@insight.rr.com> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/17/05, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>It looks like we will have a lot of installed standalone modules for >>kernels that are no longer available. I deleted all of the prior >>versions prior to this query. The query will be very long once many >>standalone modules exist. This might be a battle worth supporting before >>it becomes a severe problem. > > > if you arent actively using or actively testing the gfs or clustering > stuff.. just remove those kernel module packages... and avoid the > support issue completely. > > -jef > I'm interested in the concept and this sounds like a great feature for database and shared files between stations. One question though. Why do the modules specify a certain kernel version in the src rpms? attached errors when trying to compile, Jim -- Will LINUX ever overtake sliced bread as the #1 achievement of mankind? -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: cluster-file-system URL: From rlillard at sonic.net Wed May 18 02:17:12 2005 From: rlillard at sonic.net (Raymond Lillard) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:17:12 -0700 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <428AA5A8.8040007@sonic.net> Rodd Clarkson wrote: > Hi All, > > I've got a bug files in bugzilla to get a "1920x1200 Laptop Display > Panel" included under the Dell heading in system-config-display, but I > need the INF file (which for various reasons, none nefarious, I can't > supply). > > If someone on this list could obtain this file, could they post it to > the bug below so that this could be addressed? What INF file? This isn't windows. If you are thinking of "xorg.conf" I can email you a copy of the one I use on my Dell D810. Ray From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Wed May 18 02:21:07 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:21:07 -0400 Subject: Absence of the inbox applet in Gnome In-Reply-To: <4289232D.5040008@gmx.de> References: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> <1116282959.7161.1.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> <4289232D.5040008@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1116382868.7161.27.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 00:48 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > >On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 18:22 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > > > > > >>Does anyone know the reason why the Inbox applet is no longer > >>included in Gnome 2.10? When I right-click on the taskbar and find "add > >>to panel", I noticed that the Inbox applet is no longer available. > >> > >> > >Fedora Extras, mail-notification. Preferences | More Preferences | Mail > >Notification. Runs in the Notification Area. > > > > it is in SRPMS, i386, x86_64 but unfortunately not in ppc :-( > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/ppc/ Okay, looks like it and one of its requirements were never built for PPC. I've put in a request for this to be fixed. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Wed May 18 02:33:15 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:33:15 -0300 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <428AA5A8.8040007@sonic.net> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <428AA5A8.8040007@sonic.net> Message-ID: <1116383595.31206.13.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Em Ter, 2005-05-17 ?s 19:17 -0700, Raymond Lillard escreveu: > > I've got a bug files in bugzilla to get a "1920x1200 Laptop Display > > Panel" included under the Dell heading in system-config-display, but I > > need the INF file (which for various reasons, none nefarious, I can't > > supply). > > If someone on this list could obtain this file, could they post it to > > the bug below so that this could be addressed? > What INF file? This isn't windows. No, the inf file, from the monitor's cd (if you have it). It can contain useful information, even if xorg won't use it directly. (I use this sometimes to find pci ids of stuff BEFORE formatting a machine with linux, so when I install linux, I already found the correct drivers/modules/whatever for them). Too lazy to download pci-scan when a pile of .infs are inside \windows \inf\ and inf\other From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 18 02:32:21 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:32:21 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <428AA5A7.6020505@insight.rr.com> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79105051707201da4735c@mail.gmail.com> <428A8874.90203@insight.rr.com> <604aa79105051718245f0e1a14@mail.gmail.com> <428AA5A7.6020505@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <604aa79105051719326240ce10@mail.gmail.com> On 5/17/05, Jim Cornette wrote: > I'm interested in the concept and this sounds like a great feature for > database and shared files between stations. > > One question though. Why do the modules specify a certain kernel version > in the src rpms? you'll have to talk to the maintainer about why its hardcoded... making it a macro that gets resolved at build time would make some sense to me... but I also think mash potatos would makes a great cake frosting so calibrate your opinion of my opinions accordingly. If you have a technical issue with how this stuff is packaged... bugzilla it, with a specific proposal on how to fix the issue so the packages rebuild in a better fashion. -jef From rlillard at sonic.net Wed May 18 02:40:49 2005 From: rlillard at sonic.net (Raymond Lillard) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:40:49 -0700 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <1116383595.31206.13.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <428AA5A8.8040007@sonic.net> <1116383595.31206.13.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Message-ID: <428AAB31.7010605@sonic.net> Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Ter, 2005-05-17 ?s 19:17 -0700, Raymond Lillard escreveu: > > >>>I've got a bug files in bugzilla to get a "1920x1200 Laptop Display >>>Panel" included under the Dell heading in system-config-display, but I >>>need the INF file (which for various reasons, none nefarious, I can't >>>supply). >>>If someone on this list could obtain this file, could they post it to >>>the bug below so that this could be addressed? >> >>What INF file? This isn't windows. > > > No, the inf file, from the monitor's cd (if you have it). > > It can contain useful information, even if xorg won't use it directly. > > (I use this sometimes to find pci ids of stuff BEFORE formatting a > machine with linux, so when I install linux, I already found the correct > drivers/modules/whatever for them). > > Too lazy to download pci-scan when a pile of .infs are inside \windows > \inf\ and inf\other > OK. The box my Dell came in is in storage and I formatted the windows parition for Linux. My offer of a working 1920x1200 "xorg.conf" still stands. Ray From byte at aeon.com.my Wed May 18 02:45:07 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:45:07 +1000 Subject: Absence of the inbox applet in Gnome In-Reply-To: <4289232D.5040008@gmx.de> References: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> <1116282959.7161.1.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> <4289232D.5040008@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1116384307.4564.395.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 00:48 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > >Fedora Extras, mail-notification. Preferences | More Preferences | > Mail > >Notification. Runs in the Notification Area. > > > > it is in SRPMS, i386, x86_64 but unfortunately not in ppc :-( > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/ppc/ File a bug of course Turns out gmime could require a build, before mail-notification, and since gmime builds on ppc, mail-notification did too That aside, don't file a bug, I've gone on to fixing it, and requested builds of this again; so hopefully by tomorrow or something, the buildsys will have churned out ppc packages for you. Enjoy -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From dcbw at redhat.com Wed May 18 03:01:29 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <1116383595.31206.13.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <428AA5A8.8040007@sonic.net> <1116383595.31206.13.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 May 2005, Alexandre Strube wrote: > Em Ter, 2005-05-17 ?s 19:17 -0700, Raymond Lillard escreveu: > > > > I've got a bug files in bugzilla to get a "1920x1200 Laptop Display > > > Panel" included under the Dell heading in system-config-display, but I > > > need the INF file (which for various reasons, none nefarious, I can't > > > supply). > > > If someone on this list could obtain this file, could they post it to > > > the bug below so that this could be addressed? > > What INF file? This isn't windows. > > No, the inf file, from the monitor's cd (if you have it). > > It can contain useful information, even if xorg won't use it directly. > > (I use this sometimes to find pci ids of stuff BEFORE formatting a > machine with linux, so when I install linux, I already found the correct > drivers/modules/whatever for them). > > Too lazy to download pci-scan when a pile of .infs are inside \windows > \inf\ and inf\other Do most laptop displays have INF files shipped on the laptop CDs? I've tried and failed to find any INF files for any inspiron/latitidue built-in LCD on Dell's site and their FTP, otherwise I would have added them when I added all the other Dell monitors to system-config-display about 2 months ago. I don't think you can find them online, I think you ahve to have the CDs. Dan From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed May 18 03:03:14 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:03:14 -0400 Subject: yum error In-Reply-To: <604aa79105051719326240ce10@mail.gmail.com> References: <1116314463.14960.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116321206.22682.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> <1116322913.14960.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79105051707201da4735c@mail.gmail.com> <428A8874.90203@insight.rr.com> <604aa79105051718245f0e1a14@mail.gmail.com> <428AA5A7.6020505@insight.rr.com> <604aa79105051719326240ce10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <428AB072.1050408@insight.rr.com> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/17/05, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>I'm interested in the concept and this sounds like a great feature for >>database and shared files between stations. >> >>One question though. Why do the modules specify a certain kernel version >>in the src rpms? > > > you'll have to talk to the maintainer about why its hardcoded... > making it a macro that gets resolved at build time would make some > sense to me... but I also think mash potatos would makes a great cake > frosting so calibrate your opinion of my opinions accordingly. If you > have a technical issue with how this stuff is packaged... bugzilla it, > with a specific proposal on how to fix the issue so the packages > rebuild in a better fashion. > > -jef > I'm playing with the spec files and changing the value in the define to the latest kernel. I am going to try uname -r in the spec files after I get the needed src files for everything. I believe all needed devel packages are now installed. uname -r seems rational with an option to specify which kernel that you desire the modules to be built for. Next stop, bugzilla. Thanks! Jim -- Will LINUX ever overtake sliced bread as the #1 achievement of mankind? From kapointer at charter.net Wed May 18 03:19:56 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:19:56 -0500 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1116386396.7094.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 00:47 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed the nVidia drivers on my FC4t3 box and have altered > xorg.conf so that dri is hashed out and nv is replaced with nvidia. > > Only problem is that if I reboot, dri reappears and nv replaces nvidia. > > Is there anyway to stop this from happening? > > TTFN > > Paul Thats odd. Did you actually reboot or did you just restart X? Because I installed the NVidia drivers from nvidia. Did the same thing you did. Rebooted and it worked fine. :) You have any odd sort of extra hardware detection services enabled? -- kyle From pjones at redhat.com Wed May 18 03:23:28 2005 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:23:28 -0400 Subject: ipw2200 and network manager In-Reply-To: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> References: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> Message-ID: <1116386609.8894.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 14:38 +0200, Dominik Schastok wrote: > Hi, > > I installed fc4 test 3 on my sony vaio s2vp and I?m having problems > setting up the wireless card. > The card can be found on the network manager but there it is listed as > an ethernet card, not a wireless. I didn?t find a config file to change > that and when I try to set up a new device, I can?t choose the Intel > IPW2200 card. > With the setting as a ethernet card, even with the ipw2200 firmware, the > interface can?t be used on my notebook. > I?m sure there is a simple solution for this, but I wasn?t able to find it. > I hope you can help me. Can you do "lspci"? It'll show something like: 02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05) Then take that first number and do: lspci -vns 02:02.0 And show us the output there? -- Peter, who wants to be sure it says it's a network interface. From rlillard at sonic.net Wed May 18 04:25:33 2005 From: rlillard at sonic.net (Raymond Lillard) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:25:33 -0700 Subject: Sonoma Centrino M70 (Dell Latitude D810, C810) Message-ID: <428AC3BD.3000409@sonic.net> I have a D810 running a fully updated FC3. All is well except that the CD/DVD drive will not run with DMA. I haven't had the opportunity try FC4-test yet, but hope this problem has been delt with. Can anybody speak to the status of support for this h/w WRT DMA? Thanks, Ray From mister.ribbit at gmail.com Wed May 18 04:46:56 2005 From: mister.ribbit at gmail.com (Mister Ribbit) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:46:56 -0700 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <428AA5A8.8040007@sonic.net> <1116383595.31206.13.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Message-ID: On 5/17/05, Dan Williams wrote: > On Tue, 17 May 2005, Alexandre Strube wrote: > > Em Ter, 2005-05-17 ?s 19:17 -0700, Raymond Lillard escreveu: > > > > > > I've got a bug files in bugzilla to get a "1920x1200 Laptop Display > > > > Panel" included under the Dell heading in system-config-display, but I > > > > need the INF file (which for various reasons, none nefarious, I can't > > > > supply). > > > > If someone on this list could obtain this file, could they post it to > > > > the bug below so that this could be addressed? > > > What INF file? This isn't windows. > > > > No, the inf file, from the monitor's cd (if you have it). > > > > It can contain useful information, even if xorg won't use it directly. > > > > (I use this sometimes to find pci ids of stuff BEFORE formatting a > > machine with linux, so when I install linux, I already found the correct > > drivers/modules/whatever for them). > > > > Too lazy to download pci-scan when a pile of .infs are inside \windows > > \inf\ and inf\other > > Do most laptop displays have INF files shipped on the laptop CDs? I've tried > and failed to find any INF files for any inspiron/latitidue built-in LCD on > Dell's site and their FTP, otherwise I would have added them when I added all > the other Dell monitors to system-config-display about 2 months ago. I don't > think you can find them online, I think you ahve to have the CDs. I have the CD here for a Dell Inspiron 8600 which comes with a 1920x1200 screen. I've tried extracting all drivers on the disk and looking for something to do with the monitor, but there's tonnes of crap here and I'm not sure what to look for. Any hints? Ciao! Ryan From roger at gwch.net Wed May 18 05:26:18 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:26:18 +0200 Subject: Samba Home Share name is username, windows any share is username In-Reply-To: <1116382485.4191.18.camel@Jovette-14> References: <1116382485.4191.18.camel@Jovette-14> Message-ID: <428AD1FA.9080908@gwch.net> Darwin H. Webb schrieb: > The default share name for the home/username is username. > The new SELinux check box (allow home dir to be shared) seems to > automatically create the share? as I removed it after checking the > SELinux check box. And this is why. > > A Windows share created on the linux desktop defaults to a name of > username or username(2) and can not be renamed. > This is a workgroup so at first time access (either side of the net) it > is auth with a username and password. > > But now when the Windows share is opened for the first use, the wondow > comes up white with hour glass mouse pointer. It stays that way unitl > the close x is clicked and conformation to force close the window. > Then out of the blue, the /home/username folder pops up as if one had > clicked on Home. Close that and try another route. > Click on properties of windows share and it asks for wondws password, > accepts it and shows properties. Close that and clcik on windows share > again, ask for windows password, accepts, and open the shre with files > in the windows correctly. > > The double use of user name needs to be checked on? > > And if the windows shares can be renamed different than user name, > username(2), etc. The username all over the desktop is not very secure > either. :) > > Thank you, > > > > i did not use the homeshares in that way. Try in your [homes]-section [homes] comment = Home Directories path = /home/%U guest ok = no browseable = yes writable = yes create mask = 775 This makes your homedir directly point to your users homedir. try it without the selinux for homedir-support for samba. I created a separate homedir for my samba-shares in /users. If you wanna try this, just replace /home by whatever you want - don't forget to change it in your smb.conf either. HTH Roger From RouillardSy at yahoo.fr Wed May 18 05:55:58 2005 From: RouillardSy at yahoo.fr (Sylvain Rouillard) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:55:58 +0200 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200505180755.58280.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> When you say "dri is hashed out", do you mean the 'load dri" line in the Module section, or the whole dri section? I think it's the load dri bit that needs to be rem'ed out (though obviously the dri section can be rem'ed out too in that case) just a thought, HTH Sylvain Le Mercredi 18 Mai 2005 01:47, Paul a ?crit?: > Hi, > > I've installed the nVidia drivers on my FC4t3 box and have altered > xorg.conf so that dri is hashed out and nv is replaced with nvidia. > > Only problem is that if I reboot, dri reappears and nv replaces nvidia. > > Is there anyway to stop this from happening? > > TTFN > > Paul From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Wed May 18 06:19:36 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 06:19:36 +0000 Subject: artsd run away Message-ID: has anyone found a way that they could tell me in some great detail to stop artsd from using all avaliable cpu power this only happens when i use KDE and i really dont like gnome all that much so someone please help me out here _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed May 18 06:32:49 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:32:49 +0100 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <1116386396.7094.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <1116386396.7094.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> Message-ID: <1116397969.4857.11.camel@localhost> Hi, > Thats odd. Did you actually reboot or did you just restart X? Did a restart to test, updated, rebooted for new kernel, recompiled the nvidia driver, altered xorg.conf to make sure dri was gone and nv was nvidia, rebooted and found xorg.conf had the dri in again and nvidia was nv again. > Because I installed the NVidia drivers from nvidia. Same here. The kernel startup log shows NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel module 1.0-7174 > Did the same thing you did. Rebooted and it worked fine. :) > You have any odd sort of extra hardware detection services enabled? Nope. Bog standard GF4 in there. I do run kudzu each boot One interesting thing on the logs... audit(1116372981.492:0): avc: denied {execmod} for path=/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7174 dev=hda5 ino=263999 scotext=system_u:system_r:initrc_t tcontext=root:object_r:lib_t tclass=file Is SELinux objecting to it and if it is, how do I fix it? I have SELinux set to Permissive - Targetted. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I found that was the issue with my install. > >when starting the anaconda installer, put in 'linux nofb' as the command line, since your issue seems alot like mine was. > it would be great if this infos would be available in the ppc-installer too. ppc-inst = nothing x86-inst = F1-Fx linux nofb linux text expert ... could all this infos be in the init-message ? iirc with [tab] you see only "linux" = label ----yaboot.conf---- init-message = "\nWelcome!\nHit for boot options.\n\n" timeout=6000 default=linux image=ppc/chrp/vmlinuz label=linux initrd=ppc/chrp/ramdisk.image.gz read-only ----/---- -- shrek-m From chandana at desilva.id.au Wed May 18 06:46:34 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:46:34 +1000 Subject: FC4 and Cisco Vpn Client In-Reply-To: <1116358331.3658.7.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116358331.3658.7.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <1116398795.3658.13.camel@chandana.dis> I have resolved this problem. I was giving the profile filename with the extension, when I should not have. The correct syntax is : vpnclient connect myprof and myprof.pcf must be in etc/opt/cisco-vpnclient/Profiles/ Chandana > On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 05:32 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > I am trying to get the Cisco VPN Client V 4.6.02.0030-k9. > > I seem to be able to compile it ok, but when I try to run it, I get the > message : The profile specified could not be read. > > I have tried giving the full file name on the command line : > vpnclient connect /etc/opt/cisco-vpnclient/Profiles/myprof.pcf > > I hope someone can help me. This worked ok on FC2 with Kernel 2.6.10 > > Here is the full response: > ----------------------------------------------------- > [chandana at chandana ~]$ vpnclient > connect /etc/CiscoSystemsVPNClient/Profiles/melbvpn.pcf > Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.6.02 (0030) > Copyright (C) 1998-2004 Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > Client Type(s): Linux > Running on: Linux 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 #1 Wed May 4 11:13:05 EDT 2005 i686 > Config file directory: /etc/opt/cisco-vpnclient > > The profile specified could not be read. > ------------------------------------------ > > This is the log: > ------- > Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.6.02 (0030) > Copyright (C) 1998-2004 Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > Client Type(s): Linux > Running on: Linux 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 #1 Wed May 4 11:13:05 EDT 2005 i686 > Config file directory: /etc/opt/cisco-vpnclient > > 1 05:31:04.777 05/18/2005 Sev=Warning/3 CLI/0x83900004 > Unable to purge old log files. Function returned -1. > > 2 05:31:04.836 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CVPND/0x4340001F > Privilege Separation: restoring MTU on primary interface. > > 3 05:31:04.842 05/18/2005 Sev=Debug/7 CM/0x43100033 > Auto-initiation watch: started > > 4 05:31:04.847 05/18/2005 Sev=Debug/7 CM/0x43100033 > Auto-initiation watch: interface change handler invoked > > 5 05:31:04.853 05/18/2005 Sev=Debug/7 CM/0x43100033 > Auto-initiation watch: auto-initiation is currently disabled > > 6 05:31:04.859 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CVPND/0x4340000F > Started cvpnd: > Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.6.02 (0030) > Copyright (C) 1998-2004 Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > Client Type(s): Linux > Running on: Linux 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 #1 Wed May 4 11:13:05 EDT 2005 i686 > > 7 05:31:05.823 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x43700014 > Deleted all keys > > 8 05:31:05.824 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x43700008 > IPSec driver successfully started > > 9 05:31:05.824 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x43700014 > Deleted all keys > > 10 05:31:05.824 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x43700014 > Deleted all keys > > 11 05:31:05.825 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 IPSEC/0x4370000A > IPSec driver successfully stopped > > 12 05:31:05.827 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CLI/0x43900002 > Started vpnclient: > Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.6.02 (0030) > Copyright (C) 1998-2004 Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > Client Type(s): Linux > Running on: Linux 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 #1 Wed May 4 11:13:05 EDT 2005 i686 > > 13 05:31:05.831 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CVPND/0x4340000C > Stopped service: > > 14 05:31:05.832 05/18/2005 Sev=Debug/7 CM/0x43100033 > Auto-initiation watch: stopped > > 15 05:31:05.854 05/18/2005 Sev=Info/4 CVPND/0x4340001F > Privilege Separation: restoring MTU on primary interface. > From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed May 18 07:47:24 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:47:24 +0200 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <428AF30C.4080403@gmx.de> akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: >But on the fedora-test-list top posting is common. > > imho html-posting is really seldom on "this list" top-posting is seldom on "this list" = it is acceptable, it is self-healing iirc html-posting, top-posting, ... on the "fedora-list" is nearly a common usage = it is innacceptable, you need flames, swords, hammers, ... learn to quote and be happy. eg. http://learn.to/quote -> http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- shrek-m From affan at ri1.biz Wed May 18 08:34:28 2005 From: affan at ri1.biz (affan at ri1.biz) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:34:28 +0700 Subject: Badness in local_bh_enable Message-ID: <1116405268.428afe144354d@www.ri1.biz> Hi, I'm testing the 'FC4 test3' now with ATM card ForeRunner HE155 configured as pppoa server. When the ppp session connected, there are a lot of repeated error messages like this : Badness in local_bh_enable at kernel/softirq.c:140 (Not tainted) [] local_bh_enable+0x6f/0x7d [] he_service_rbrq+0x57d/0x621 [he] [] he_tasklet+0x189/0x3bc [he] [] __rcu_process_callbacks+0x4e/0x1c4 [] tasklet_action+0x32/0x5d [] __do_softirq+0x3e/0x8a [] do_softirq+0x3e/0x42 ======================= [] do_IRQ+0x51/0x82 [] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20 [] mwait_idle+0x24/0x41 [] apm_cpu_idle+0x5e/0x155 [] cpu_idle+0x34/0x4c [] start_kernel+0x15f/0x1b9 [] unknown_bootoption+0x0/0x1cd These are the modules used in the machine : Module Size Used by pppoatm 5825 0 ppp_generic 39893 1 pppoatm slhc 7233 1 ppp_generic parport_pc 28933 0 lp 13001 0 parport 40585 2 parport_pc,lp autofs4 27205 2 rfcomm 42333 0 l2cap 30661 5 rfcomm bluetooth 56005 4 rfcomm,l2cap sunrpc 167941 1 ipt_REJECT 5569 1 ipt_state 1857 5 ip_conntrack 41369 1 ipt_state iptable_filter 2881 1 ip_tables 19649 3 ipt_REJECT,ipt_state,iptable_filter dm_mod 58229 0 md5 4161 1 ipv6 269505 8 uhci_hcd 34641 0 ehci_hcd 41037 0 i2c_viapro 8017 0 i2c_core 21569 1 i2c_viapro he 28125 0 atm 44949 2 pppoatm,he 8139too 30145 0 via_rhine 28361 0 mii 5441 2 8139too,via_rhine ext3 133449 2 jbd 86361 1 ext3 Please help .. Thanks a lot. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through webmail.ri1.biz From rodd at clarkson.id.au Wed May 18 10:09:08 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:09:08 +1000 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <428AA5A8.8040007@sonic.net> <1116383595.31206.13.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Message-ID: <1116410948.3624.2.camel@goose> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 21:46 -0700, Mister Ribbit wrote: > I have the CD here for a Dell Inspiron 8600 which comes with a > 1920x1200 screen. I've tried extracting all drivers on the disk and > looking for something to do with the monitor, but there's tonnes of > crap here and I'm not sure what to look for. Any hints? Mr Ribbit, I've rooted around in the CD too, to no avail. I suspect what someone needs to do is root around in their install of Windows and find out what INF file is being used as the 'driver' for the monitor. I'm unable to do this as I haven't got Windows installed on my system, so I'm hoping that someone else might and can locate the files. Rodd. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From greenrd at presidium.org Wed May 18 10:32:05 2005 From: greenrd at presidium.org (Robin Green) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:32:05 +0100 Subject: java compiler "sdk" ? References: <1116352941.28032.16.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:59 -0500, Justin Conover wrote: > Ok, a little more confusion on my part, if in the before exapmle javac > -version was pointing to eclipse, why do I get this with alternatives: > > # alternatives --display javac > javac - status is auto. > link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj/bin/javac Because the Eclipse Java compiler (ejc) is currently used as the Java source to bytecode compiler of the Fedora gcj suite. You can also use gcj -C to compile Java source code to bytecode, but ecj has better support for newer language features (and also it's written in Java itself, which is cool.) If you run /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj/bin/javac you will see that it gives the same output as javac, because the latter points to the former. -- Robin From sds at tycho.nsa.gov Wed May 18 12:24:50 2005 From: sds at tycho.nsa.gov (Stephen Smalley) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:24:50 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <1116397969.4857.11.camel@localhost> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <1116386396.7094.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> <1116397969.4857.11.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1116419090.3998.23.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 07:32 +0100, Paul wrote: > One interesting thing on the logs... > > audit(1116372981.492:0): avc: denied {execmod} for > path=/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7174 dev=hda5 ino=263999 > scotext=system_u:system_r:initrc_t tcontext=root:object_r:lib_t > tclass=file > > Is SELinux objecting to it and if it is, how do I fix it? I have SELinux > set to Permissive - Targetted. chcon -t texrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7174 This marks the shared object as requiring text relocation, and thus allows it to happen in the policy (if allow_execmod boolean is active; /usr/sbin/getsebool allow_execmod). Looks like the policy needs to be updated as the existing regex for nvidia in types.fc doesn't cover this case (it seems to assume that they live in a nvidia subdirectory). -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed May 18 12:35:28 2005 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:35:28 -0400 Subject: Bringing interfaces up at boot and SElinux (?) In-Reply-To: <20050516165136.GB5733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1116243381.3353.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050516165136.GB5733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <428B3690.8000205@redhat.com> Bill Nottingham wrote: >Kyrre Ness Sjobak (kyrre at solution-forge.net) said: > > >>But: It seems like it then tries to ping something - but an error >>message is printed to rhgb: "could not create ICMP socket - denied" (i >>am writing from memory here...) - could this be related to SELinux? Can >>anybody confirm? My knowledge of SELinux is very small. >> >> > >The error is probably from SELinux; there's a ping in /sbin/dhclient-script >when it times out. > >Bill > > > dhcpc should have the ability to ping. domain_auto_trans(dhcpc_t, ping_exec_t, ping_t) Are you seeing any avc messages? Dan -- From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed May 18 12:43:09 2005 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:43:09 -0400 Subject: ftpd_selinux manpage inconsistancy In-Reply-To: <20050515202744.3673.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050515202744.3673.qmail@web86510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <428B385D.9070904@redhat.com> DAVID BENTLEY wrote: >The line after "setsebool -P ftpd_disable_trans 1" >reads "system vsftpd restart" but this when typed >produces an error. > >The line should be "service vsftpd restart" presumably. > > > Thanks fixed in selinux-policy-*-1.23.16-1 -- From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed May 18 12:44:05 2005 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:44:05 -0400 Subject: ftpd_selinux problem ? In-Reply-To: <20050515191823.22256.qmail@web86504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050515191823.22256.qmail@web86504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <428B3895.3090001@redhat.com> DAVID BENTLEY wrote: >Having read the man ftpd_selinux page I can get >anonymous ftp to work (only tested read only mode so >far) by typing what is suggested in a terminal window. > >chcon -R -t ftpd_anon_t /var/ftp > >But what I cant get to work with selinux protection on >is ftp access to a users home directory just by either > >using the system-config-securitylevel tool to enable >acces to home directories or by typing the following >command in a terminal window. > >setsebool -P ftp_home_dir 1 > >When I try to login as a user with a home directory I >get this error message at the client end after the >password is entered > >Error sending status request (Operation not permitted) >Login failed. > >Do you also have to use chcon to appropriatly label a >users home directory. > > > We needed to add audit_control and a few other fixes to get this to work selinux-policy-targeted-1.23.16-1 Dan -- From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 18 13:01:12 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:01:12 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <1116419090.3998.23.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <1116386396.7094.1.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> <1116397969.4857.11.camel@localhost> <1116419090.3998.23.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <604aa79105051806015dc1720d@mail.gmail.com> On 5/18/05, Stephen Smalley wrote: > Looks like the policy needs to be updated as the existing regex for > nvidia in types.fc doesn't cover this case (it seems to assume that they > live in a nvidia subdirectory). and for the nvidia rpms at livna... they do. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 18 13:04:56 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:04:56 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> On 5/17/05, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed the nVidia drivers on my FC4t3 box and have altered > xorg.conf so that dri is hashed out and nv is replaced with nvidia. > > Only problem is that if I reboot, dri reappears and nv replaces nvidia. > > Is there anyway to stop this from happening? I assume you mean.. you installed the nvidia drivers directly from nvidia using nvidia's installer. Nothing from fedora core should be re-writing the Xconfig file on boot like that. Did you at any point install nvidia drivers on that box using an rpm? rpm -qa|grep nvidia For example, the livna rpms for nvidia come with a magically script that will revert the Xconfig back under some circumstances so that X will start up in case the nvidia driver isn't detected. -jef From dcbw at redhat.com Wed May 18 13:20:16 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:20:16 -0400 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <428AA5A8.8040007@sonic.net> <1116383595.31206.13.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Message-ID: <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 21:46 -0700, Mister Ribbit wrote: > On 5/17/05, Dan Williams wrote: > > On Tue, 17 May 2005, Alexandre Strube wrote: > > > Em Ter, 2005-05-17 ?s 19:17 -0700, Raymond Lillard escreveu: > > > > > > > > I've got a bug files in bugzilla to get a "1920x1200 Laptop Display > > > > > Panel" included under the Dell heading in system-config-display, but I > > > > > need the INF file (which for various reasons, none nefarious, I can't > > > > > supply). > > > > > If someone on this list could obtain this file, could they post it to > > > > > the bug below so that this could be addressed? > > > > What INF file? This isn't windows. > > > > > > No, the inf file, from the monitor's cd (if you have it). > > > > > > It can contain useful information, even if xorg won't use it directly. > > > > > > (I use this sometimes to find pci ids of stuff BEFORE formatting a > > > machine with linux, so when I install linux, I already found the correct > > > drivers/modules/whatever for them). > > > > > > Too lazy to download pci-scan when a pile of .infs are inside \windows > > > \inf\ and inf\other > > > > Do most laptop displays have INF files shipped on the laptop CDs? I've tried > > and failed to find any INF files for any inspiron/latitidue built-in LCD on > > Dell's site and their FTP, otherwise I would have added them when I added all > > the other Dell monitors to system-config-display about 2 months ago. I don't > > think you can find them online, I think you ahve to have the CDs. > > I have the CD here for a Dell Inspiron 8600 which comes with a > 1920x1200 screen. I've tried extracting all drivers on the disk and > looking for something to do with the monitor, but there's tonnes of > crap here and I'm not sure what to look for. Any hints? Any file that ends in ".inf" is a candidate. Dan From ivg2 at cornell.edu Wed May 18 13:21:19 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:21:19 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116422479.10089.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> > For example, the livna rpms for nvidia come with a magically script > that will revert > the Xconfig back under some circumstances so that X will start up in > case the nvidia driver isn't detected. I believe it writes over xorg.conf no matter what, and tries to backup the old one. However, SELinux doesn't like that. audit(1116422231.403:0): avc: denied { rename } for name=xorg.conf dev=dm-0 ino=668422 scontext=root:system_r:initrc_t tcontext=root:object_r:etc_t tclass=file audit(1116422231.403:0): avc: denied { unlink } for name=xorg.conf.backup-nvidia-glx dev=dm-0 ino=665288 scontext=root:system_r:initrc_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:etc_t tclass=file audit(1116422231.592:0): avc: denied { unlink } for name=xorg.conf.backup-nvidia-glx dev=dm-0 ino=668422 scontext=root:system_r:initrc_t tcontext=root:object_r:etc_t tclass=file -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed May 18 13:47:17 2005 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:47:17 -0400 Subject: selinux and acpi actions... In-Reply-To: <428806A0.30902@amberpoint.com> References: <428806A0.30902@amberpoint.com> Message-ID: <428B4765.8010905@redhat.com> Bikehead wrote: > I have FC4T3 synced up to the latest dev changes (5/15/05). I'm > having trouble with getting acpi actions to work with SElinux > enabled. I made a lid event in /etc/acpi/events that invokes a sleep > script in /etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh. The sleep script does a touch > /tmp/suspend and then 'echo mem> /sys/power/state'. I set the context > to system_u:object_r:etc_t, same as the /etc/acpi/events/sample.conf. > When I close the lid the system doesn't suspend. The /var/logs/acpid > says that 'touch: cannot touch '/tmp/suspended': Permission denied' > and /etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh: line 5: /sys/power/state: Permission > denied'. The /var/logs/audit/audit.log say 'type=(null) msg=(null)' > about 20 times, but no other info. > > If I setenforce 0 and close the lid then all works fine. > > What am I doing wrong? Thanks. > > Why do you want to touch /tmp/suspended? I can add tmp_domain(apmd) and I have allready allowed it to write to /sys/power. Dan -- From czar at czarc.net Wed May 18 13:57:53 2005 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:57:53 -0400 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> On Wednesday 18 May 2005 09:20, Dan Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 21:46 -0700, Mister Ribbit wrote: > > On 5/17/05, Dan Williams wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 May 2005, Alexandre Strube wrote: > > > > Em Ter, 2005-05-17 ?s 19:17 -0700, Raymond Lillard escreveu: > > > > > > I've got a bug files in bugzilla to get a "1920x1200 Laptop > > > > > > Display Panel" included under the Dell heading in > > > > > > system-config-display, but I need the INF file (which for various > > > > > > reasons, none nefarious, I can't supply). > > > > > > If someone on this list could obtain this file, could they post > > > > > > it to the bug below so that this could be addressed? > > > > > > > > > > What INF file? This isn't windows. > > > > > > > > No, the inf file, from the monitor's cd (if you have it). > > > > > > > > It can contain useful information, even if xorg won't use it > > > > directly. > > > > > > > > (I use this sometimes to find pci ids of stuff BEFORE formatting a > > > > machine with linux, so when I install linux, I already found the > > > > correct drivers/modules/whatever for them). > > > > > > > > Too lazy to download pci-scan when a pile of .infs are inside > > > > \windows \inf\ and inf\other > > > > > > Do most laptop displays have INF files shipped on the laptop CDs? I've > > > tried and failed to find any INF files for any inspiron/latitidue > > > built-in LCD on Dell's site and their FTP, otherwise I would have added > > > them when I added all the other Dell monitors to system-config-display > > > about 2 months ago. I don't think you can find them online, I think > > > you ahve to have the CDs. > > > > I have the CD here for a Dell Inspiron 8600 which comes with a > > 1920x1200 screen. I've tried extracting all drivers on the disk and > > looking for something to do with the monitor, but there's tonnes of > > crap here and I'm not sure what to look for. Any hints? > > Any file that ends in ".inf" is a candidate. OK, I don't have a Dell but I do have a Compaq Presario R3000z laptop (Athlon64) with a widescreen capable of displaying 1920x1200. I checked the drivers DVD that came with it and nothing there. I then checked XP itself (I still have it installed in a shrunken partition) and there are a whole bunch of .inf files (it looks like thousands and is at least hundreds). There are eight "monitor" files (monitor, monitor2, monitor3, etc.). Looking at a couple of there file I see that they cover a number of manufacturers (monitor.inf includes Compaq and Dell). These files have a "Copyright by Microsoft" notice in each of them so I am not sure about the legality of sharing them. However, I would be surprised if the folks at Red Hat don't have XP installed somewhere in their organization so they should be able to find the same files I did. -- Gene From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed May 18 14:28:48 2005 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:28:48 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <1116422479.10089.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> <1116422479.10089.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <428B5120.1030304@redhat.com> Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: >>For example, the livna rpms for nvidia come with a magically script >>that will revert >>the Xconfig back under some circumstances so that X will start up in >>case the nvidia driver isn't detected. >> >> > >I believe it writes over xorg.conf no matter what, and tries to backup >the old one. However, SELinux doesn't like that. > >audit(1116422231.403:0): avc: denied { rename } for name=xorg.conf >dev=dm-0 ino=668422 scontext=root:system_r:initrc_t >tcontext=root:object_r:etc_t tclass=file > >audit(1116422231.403:0): avc: denied { unlink } for >name=xorg.conf.backup-nvidia-glx dev=dm-0 ino=665288 >scontext=root:system_r:initrc_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:etc_t >tclass=file > >audit(1116422231.592:0): avc: denied { unlink } for >name=xorg.conf.backup-nvidia-glx dev=dm-0 ino=668422 >scontext=root:system_r:initrc_t tcontext=root:object_r:etc_t tclass=file > > > > Might need to change xorg.conf to etc_runtime_t? -- From bikehead at amberpoint.com Wed May 18 14:38:50 2005 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Bikehead) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:38:50 -0700 Subject: selinux and acpi actions... In-Reply-To: <428B4765.8010905@redhat.com> References: <428806A0.30902@amberpoint.com> <428B4765.8010905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <428B537A.6080706@amberpoint.com> I probably don't since I'm trying to get suspend to memory. However, I am using the instructions for acpi action scripts from this site: http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~afedosov/thinkpad/acpi.shtml. It is writing to /tmp/suspended in order to protect against a problem where the power event was triggered after a resume from suspend to disk so that the powerbutton.sh action could differentiate between a true shutdown and a resume. __o _-\<,_ Brian (_)/ (_) Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Bikehead wrote: > >> I have FC4T3 synced up to the latest dev changes (5/15/05). I'm >> having trouble with getting acpi actions to work with SElinux >> enabled. I made a lid event in /etc/acpi/events that invokes a sleep >> script in /etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh. The sleep script does a touch >> /tmp/suspend and then 'echo mem> /sys/power/state'. I set the context >> to system_u:object_r:etc_t, same as the /etc/acpi/events/sample.conf. >> When I close the lid the system doesn't suspend. The /var/logs/acpid >> says that 'touch: cannot touch '/tmp/suspended': Permission denied' >> and /etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh: line 5: /sys/power/state: Permission >> denied'. The /var/logs/audit/audit.log say 'type=(null) msg=(null)' >> about 20 times, but no other info. >> >> If I setenforce 0 and close the lid then all works fine. >> >> What am I doing wrong? Thanks. >> >> > Why do you want to touch /tmp/suspended? I can add tmp_domain(apmd) > and I have allready allowed it to write to /sys/power. > > Dan > From seanfedora at gmail.com Wed May 18 15:15:37 2005 From: seanfedora at gmail.com (Sean Earp) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:15:37 -0700 Subject: Subscription Alert??? Message-ID: Hello All- I just did a clean install of FC4T3 via DVD, while not connected to the internet. 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10.2.0.62-1 - Fix execcon used for anaconda (pjones) - Fix traceback on tui netstg2.img install (#157709) - Fix various splittree bugs (clumens, #157722, #157721, #157723) - Blacklist perl.i386 on x86_64 to be removed on upgrade (pnasrat, #156658) - Fix drive sorting (clumens) - Remove %installclass support for kickstart since it's never worked (#149690) - Fix name.arch in packages (pnasrat) - Remove bogus pre-existing RAID info on kickstart installs (clumens, #88359) - Pretend to have nano in the rescue environment - Don't load stage2.img into RAM for rescue mode if booted with 'linux text' (#155398) apr-0.9.6-3 ----------- * Tue May 17 2005 Joe Orton 0.9.6-3 - fix apr_procattr_child_*_set error handling * Tue Mar 01 2005 Joe Orton 0.9.6-2 - have apr-devel depend on specific version of gcc - add NOTICE to docdir * Wed Feb 09 2005 Joe Orton 0.9.6-1 - update to 0.9.6 cman-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.0 ------------------------------------------ * Mon May 16 2005 Chris Feist - Add depmod in %post scriptlet. coreutils-5.2.1-45 ------------------ * Mon May 16 2005 Tim Waugh 5.2.1-45 - Applied Russell Coker's selinux changes (bug #157856). * Fri Apr 08 2005 Tim Waugh - Fixed pam patch from Steve Grubb (bug #154946). - Use better upstream patch for "stale utmp". cpio-2.6-7 ---------- * Tue May 17 2005 Peter Vrabec 2.6-7 - fix #156314 (CAN-2005-1229) cpio directory traversal issue - fix some gcc warnings dlm-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.0 ----------------------------------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Chris Feist - Add depmod in %post scriplet. eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M6.18 -------------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.18 - Add Epoch to jsch requires. * Mon May 16 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.17 - Update libswt-mozilla patches and require mozilla 1.7.8. * Fri May 13 2005 Andrew Overholt - Use %{ix86} macro in ExclusiveArch rather than i386 (jorton). elinks-0.10.3-3 --------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Karel Zak 0.10.3-3 - fix #157300 - Strange behavior on ppc64 (patch by Miloslav Trmac) emacs-21.4-4 ------------ * Mon Apr 25 2005 Jens Petersen - 21.4-4 - don't accidently exclude emacsclient from common package (Jonathan Kamens, #157808) - traditional Chinese desktop file translation (Wei-Lun Chao, #157287) fonts-indic-1.10-2 ------------------ * Tue May 17 2005 Leon Ho 1.10-2 - fix Requires: fontconfig (#151771) * Mon May 16 2005 Leon Ho 1.10-1 - New punjabi fonts to fix RH#151630 gcc-4.0.0-6 ----------- * Tue May 17 2005 Jakub Jelinek 4.0.0-6 - update from CVS - PRs target/18655, bootstrap/21230, fortran/17143, fortran/17432, java/21519, libfortran/21324, libgcj/20504, libgcj/21557, libgcj/21606, libstdc++/21526, middle-end/21237, target/21551, target/21556, tree-optimization/21532 - fixed WHERE inside FORALL (PR fortran/15080) - fix a tree sharing bug (#157792, PR tree-optimization/21610) - avoid using hash tables recursively (#157308) - fix ppc64 libgcj (Andrew Haley, #154684, #142611) gdm-1:2.6.0.8-14 ---------------- * Thu May 12 2005 Ray Strode 1:2.6.0.8-14 - Fix processing of new-line characters that got broken in 2.6.0.8-11 (bug 157442). gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.23 ------------------------------------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Chris Feist - Add depmod in %post scriplet. gphoto2-2.1.5-9 --------------- * Sat May 14 2005 Tim Waugh 2.1.5-9 - Fixed buffer overrun in ricoh/g3 (bug #157739). gthumb-2.6.5-1 -------------- * Mon May 16 2005 John (J5) Palmieri - 2.6.5-1 - Minor updated that fixes a couple of bugs and adds some translations jessie-0:1.0.0-7 ---------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.0.0-7 - Require jpackage-utils for post and postun. - Run rebuild-security-providers with full path. kbd-1.12-9 ---------- * Tue May 17 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 1.12-9 - Fix another violation of C aliasing rules (#157720, patch by Jan Kratochvil) kernel-2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 ------------------------ * Mon May 16 2005 Rik van Riel - enable Xen again (not tested yet) - fix a typo in the EXPORT_SYMBOL patch libsepol-1.5.9-2 ---------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Dan Walsh 1.5.9-2 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Added sepol_genbools_policydb and sepol_genusers_policydb for audit2why. * Mon May 16 2005 Dan Walsh 1.5.8-2 - export sepol_context_to_sid netpbm-10.27-3 -------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Jindrich Novy 10.27-3 - fix ppmdither leak caused by bug in security patch (#157757) - drop gcc34 patch perl-3:5.8.6-13 --------------- * Sun May 15 2005 Warren Togami - 3:5.8.6-13 - Better patch for FindBin.pm (#127023#c37) * Sat May 14 2005 Jose Pedro Oliveira - 3:5.8.6-12 - New findbin-selinux patch: it now passes the FindBin.t tests (patch28 replaces patch23). #118877 #127023 - Remove 5.8.2 ABI compat (#154295 comments 6 and 7). * Thu Apr 28 2005 Ville Skytt?? - 3:5.8.6-10 - Apply fixes for CAN-2004-0452, CAN-2005-0155 and CAN-2005-0156 (#156128). perl-SGMLSpm-1.03ii-16 ---------------------- * Sat Apr 30 2005 Jose Pedro Oliveira - 1.03ii-15 - Specfile cleanup. (#156483) policycoreutils-1.23.9-1 ------------------------ * Mon May 16 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.9-1 - Update to match NSA * Updated audit2why for sepol_ prefixes on Flask types to avoid namespace collision with libselinux, and to include now. * Fri May 13 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.8-1 - Fix fixfiles to accept -f - Update to match NSA * Added audit2why utility. rhpl-0.164-1 ------------ * Mon May 16 2005 Chris Lumens 0.164-1 - Remove directory name from dvorak so it'll show up in anaconda's lists (#157763, #157840). * Mon May 16 2005 Chris Lumens 0.163-1 - Change resolution sorting to match X's behavior (Jef Spaleta, #157596). - Don't pad IP address information with unnecessary zeros (#157657). selinux-policy-strict-1.23.16-1 ------------------------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.16-1 - Update from NSA * Added rdisc policy from Russell Coker. * Merged minor fix to named policy by Petre Rodan. * Merged minor fixes to policy from Russell Coker for kudzu, named, screen, setfiles, telnet, and xdm. * Merged minor fix to Makefile from Russell Coker. * Thu May 12 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.15-5 - Remove incorrect user_*_t from te files - Add secadmfile attribute - Allow secadm to relabel secadmfile - Add wine file_context * Wed May 11 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.15-4 - Allow smbd to communicate with cups - fix some net_conf contexts - Add a bunch of / files file_context selinux-policy-targeted-1.23.16-1 --------------------------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.16-1 - Update from NSA * Added rdisc policy from Russell Coker. * Merged minor fix to named policy by Petre Rodan. * Merged minor fixes to policy from Russell Coker for kudzu, named, screen, setfiles, telnet, and xdm. * Merged minor fix to Makefile from Russell Coker. * Thu May 12 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.15-5 - Remove incorrect user_*_t from te files - Add secadmfile attribute - Allow secadm to relabel secadmfile - Add wine file_context * Wed May 11 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.15-4 - Allow smbd to communicate with cups - fix some net_conf contexts - Add a bunch of / files file_context system-config-printer-0.6.131-1 ------------------------------- * Sun May 15 2005 Tim Waugh 0.6.131-1 - 0.6.131: - Fixes for page margins (bug #134260). xchat-1:2.4.3-3 --------------- * Sun May 15 2005 Warren Togami 1:2.4.3-3 - Prevent interception of down arrow during Input Method (#144588 tagoh) From pmatilai at welho.com Wed May 18 15:18:05 2005 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:18:05 +0300 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910505110825768dfedb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> <4281F310.8090406@gmx.de> <604aa791050511051759836ad3@mail.gmail.com> <1115822224.18462.6.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> <604aa7910505110825768dfedb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116429485.11790.6.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 11:25 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/11/05, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > Digging out that information isn't exactly hard :) > > See all we needed was a bored clever person. Now is just a question > of design as to if and where to cram this functionality for end-users. > Is this something that should live in repoquery or something that > should live inside yum. A discussion for another list. This is now in latest repoquery (http://laiskiainen.org/repoquery/): [pmatilai at weasel repoquery]$ ./repoquery.py --groupmember k3b sound-and-video - Panu - From sundaram at redhat.com Wed May 18 15:23:14 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:53:14 +0530 Subject: Subscription Alert??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428B5DE2.7050304@redhat.com> Hi > > Has Fedora introduced registration between FC4T2 and FC4T3, or is this > a vestigial remnant of one of the commercial RH distributions that is > still left in Fedora? > > -Sean Definitely a leftover. please file a bug report in bugzilla.redhat.com if it hasnt been reported already regards Rahul From caf at omen.com Wed May 18 15:54:15 2005 From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:54:15 -0700 Subject: Dell 2405fpw 1920x1200 In-Reply-To: <20050518124413.8DE6373999@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050518124413.8DE6373999@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116431655.18714.89.camel@omen.com> The preferred mode is 1920z1200 74 Hz 60 kHz 154 mHz +/- h/v sync This a 24 inch LCD with fast response and 1000:1 contrast, a rather impressive beast. I have a 1024x768 LCD on the ATI 9600 second VGA port. I tried several times to set proper dual head settings with desktop->settings->display but the changes did not take effect after restarting X. From arjanv at redhat.com Wed May 18 15:58:53 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:58:53 +0200 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <428B5120.1030304@redhat.com> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> <1116422479.10089.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <428B5120.1030304@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116431933.6572.34.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> > Might need to change xorg.conf to etc_runtime_t? I would hate to see us making our selinux policy less secure for an external, not shipped, binary kernel module. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at redhat.com Wed May 18 16:05:04 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:35:04 +0530 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <1116431933.6572.34.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> <1116422479.10089.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <428B5120.1030304@redhat.com> <1116431933.6572.34.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <428B67B0.50304@redhat.com> Arjan van de Ven wrote: >>Might need to change xorg.conf to etc_runtime_t? >> >> > >I would hate to see us making our selinux policy less secure for an >external, not shipped, binary kernel module. > > > I would agree with you generally but this particular module is widespread and end users are likely to turn off SELinux altogether when they hit problems with it. We might have to consider the balance for this one carefully. Maybe provide a well documented SELinux boolean which can be optionally enabled by end users installing the kernel module while keeping the defaults more secure regards Rahul From rda at rincon.com Wed May 18 16:12:49 2005 From: rda at rincon.com (Bob Arendt) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:12:49 -0700 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <428B6981.6020200@rincon.com> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/17/05, Paul wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I've installed the nVidia drivers on my FC4t3 box and have altered >>xorg.conf so that dri is hashed out and nv is replaced with nvidia. >> >>Only problem is that if I reboot, dri reappears and nv replaces nvidia. >> >>Is there anyway to stop this from happening? > > I assume you mean.. you installed the nvidia drivers directly from > nvidia using nvidia's installer. > > Nothing from fedora core should be re-writing the Xconfig file on boot > like that. > Is this a Dell box with dkms on it? I recall some frustration once when Dell's dkms kept reverting my nvidia install to the one shipped on the box rather the one I just installed. The trick was to update the dkms files so it installed the correct version. -Bob Arendt From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:14:35 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:14:35 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <1116422479.10089.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> <1116422479.10089.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa7910505180914106e8ce3@mail.gmail.com> On 5/18/05, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > I believe it writes over xorg.conf no matter what, and tries to backup > the old one. However, SELinux doesn't like that. There might be an selinux issue here as well...but Paul, the original poster in this thread, is experiencing other more classic problems. I think someone more competent with using livna's nvidia rpms should examine the selinux issue in a seperate thread or bugreport. Paul is seeing is xorg.conf be overwritten... selinux isnt preventing that from happening. And I'm not getting any similar avc messages from my synced rawhide box with regard to the xorg.conf* files at bootup when using livna's rpms and selinux targetted. On my rawhide system using recompiled livna nvidia srpms: ls -Z /etc/X11/xorg.conf* -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:etc_runtime_t /etc/X11/xorg.conf -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:etc_runtime_t /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup-nvidia-glx Do you perhaps need to run fixfiles relabel on your box? But you are right.. the script logic from the livna rpms do always make a backup and does edit the xorg.conf on every boot. Please bare with me a moment while I try to explain for the others in this thread about what Paul is doing wrong. Anyone interested in discussing potential selinux issues with livna's rpms can just stop reading here. The livna nvidia rpms provide /etc/rc.d/init.d/nvidia which calls at boot /usr/sbin/nvidia-config-display which does re-write the xconfig making nv/nvidia specific changes based whether the nvidia kernel module is available in the expected place..everytime. The nvidia installer doesn't provide these utilities. Paul needs to come back and tell us if he has nvidia rpms installed. So I can tell Paul that he should NEVER use both nvidia rpms and nvidia's installer. I can tell by his selinux errors that he has used nvidia's crackrock installer... just by looking at where selinux saw the libs. /usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7174 is from nvidia's installer and Pauls error message /usr/lib/nvidia/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7174 is from livna's nvidia rpms I have HIGH confidence that Paul has nvidia rpms installed as well as using nvidia's crackrock installer... his symptoms are classic of mixing nvidia rpms with nvidia's installer. Nvidia's installer places the kernel module in a different directory than the livna nvidia kernel module rpms. The /etc/rc.d/init.d/nvidia script that the livna rpms provide looks specifically in /lib/modules/"`uname -r`"/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/ for the kernel module. Since the nvidia installer... places the module in a different location... the livna bootscript does not see the module placed by nvidia's installer and accordingly reverts to nv mode in the xorg.conf file. This is expected behavior.. the livna bootscript is there to make sure people have a working X config if the nvidia module is not detected. Never use nvidia's installer as well as livna's rpms and you won't have this problem. Users should never...ever... mix nvidia rpms with nvidia's installer. Personally i think you should never use nvidia's installer and especially not on a rawhide box because of the way it overwrites library files from Mesa. The way nvidia's installer works is fragile and if you aren't aware of whats going on you can easily misinterpret errors as coming from xorg updates instead of the real problem...nvidia's installer decision to conflict with files from Mesa. The livna rpms delibrately place the nvidia libs in its own subdirectory and uses a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ to avoid some of the problems nvidia's installer creates on rpm based systems. From seanfedora at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:30:20 2005 From: seanfedora at gmail.com (Sean Earp) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:30:20 -0700 Subject: Subscription Alert??? In-Reply-To: <428B5DE2.7050304@redhat.com> References: <428B5DE2.7050304@redhat.com> Message-ID: Thanks Rahul- Which component should I throw it at? -Sean On 5/18/05, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hi > > > > > Has Fedora introduced registration between FC4T2 and FC4T3, or is this > > a vestigial remnant of one of the commercial RH distributions that is > > still left in Fedora? > > > > -Sean > > Definitely a leftover. please file a bug report in bugzilla.redhat.com > if it hasnt been reported already > > regards > Rahul > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at redhat.com Wed May 18 16:45:14 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:15:14 +0530 Subject: Subscription Alert??? In-Reply-To: References: <428B5DE2.7050304@redhat.com> Message-ID: <428B711A.3030009@redhat.com> Sean Earp wrote: > Thanks Rahul- > > Which component should I throw it at? > > -Sean Try up2date. If thats not doing it, it can be reassigned to the correct component. In general never leave a bug unreported just because you arent sure which one it is. Just make an educated guess and report it. Remember, If the bug doesnt exist in bugzilla, it just does not exist at all ! regards Rahul From seanfedora at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:53:58 2005 From: seanfedora at gmail.com (Sean Earp) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:53:58 -0700 Subject: Subscription Alert??? In-Reply-To: <428B711A.3030009@redhat.com> References: <428B5DE2.7050304@redhat.com> <428B711A.3030009@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 5/18/05, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Sean Earp wrote: > > > Thanks Rahul- > > > > Which component should I throw it at? > > > > -Sean > > Try up2date. If thats not doing it, it can be reassigned to the correct > component. In general never leave a bug unreported just because you > arent sure which one it is. Just make an educated guess and report it. > Remember, If the bug doesnt exist in bugzilla, it just does not exist > at all ! > > regards > Rahul > Thanks Rahul- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=158095 if anyone cares... -Sean :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at redhat.com Wed May 18 17:00:40 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:30:40 +0530 Subject: Subscription Alert??? In-Reply-To: References: <428B5DE2.7050304@redhat.com> <428B711A.3030009@redhat.com> Message-ID: <428B74B8.5030703@redhat.com> Hi > > Thanks Rahul- > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=158095 if anyone > cares... > > -Sean :) Sean, Thanks for taking the time to file the bug report. Please consider not top posting in Fedora mailing list for further replies. Its no big deal really but it helps if everyone in the community follows some of the basic guidelines while interacting in the list. Thanks again regards Rahul From ivg2 at cornell.edu Wed May 18 17:11:06 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:11:06 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and xorg In-Reply-To: <428B67B0.50304@redhat.com> References: <1116373655.4857.1.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051806048f5e02@mail.gmail.com> <1116422479.10089.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <428B5120.1030304@redhat.com> <1116431933.6572.34.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <428B67B0.50304@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116436266.10644.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> > >>Might need to change xorg.conf to etc_runtime_t? How about we change the type of xorg.conf to x_conf_t, allow X to read that, allow whatever program generates it to write it, contain /usr/sbin/nvidia-config-display in a separate domain, and allow that to write to xorg too... -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From trulsg at broadpark.no Wed May 18 17:16:03 2005 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:16:03 +0000 Subject: Install problem with FC4 In-Reply-To: <42870590.7090705@winxpert.com> References: <42870590.7090705@winxpert.com> Message-ID: <428B7853.5070809@broadpark.no> Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > HI, > > I cannot install the FC4 on a laptop ACER FERRARI 3200 with amd64 > version (the problem is exactly the same with a RHEL 4). The > installation process begins, detects all hardware and then launches > /sbin/loader. At this point, black screen and all is freezed. I tried to > start the installation in text mode, with no probe option, ... : no effect. > > Has anyone an idea which gives me a chance to install it on my computer ? > > Best regards > It worked fine for me, se my note : "Obersvations after installing FC4t3". Regards, Truls -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It shouldn't really be using a predictably named file in /tmp for that. -- Peter From trulsg at broadpark.no Wed May 18 18:07:01 2005 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:07:01 +0000 Subject: Install problem with FC4 In-Reply-To: <428B7853.5070809@broadpark.no> References: <42870590.7090705@winxpert.com> <428B7853.5070809@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <428B8445.7020601@broadpark.no> Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > >> HI, >> >> I cannot install the FC4 on a laptop ACER FERRARI 3200 with amd64 >> version (the problem is exactly the same with a RHEL 4). The >> installation process begins, detects all hardware and then launches >> /sbin/loader. At this point, black screen and all is freezed. I tried >> to start the installation in text mode, with no probe option, ... : no >> effect. >> >> Has anyone an idea which gives me a chance to install it on my computer ? >> >> Best regards >> > It worked fine for me, se my note : "Obersvations after installing FC4t3". > > Regards, > Truls > Sorry, this was the thread. Truls -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: trulsg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 111 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wnh200405 at xphuang.com Wed May 18 18:45:40 2005 From: wnh200405 at xphuang.com (Wilbur Harvey) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:45:40 -1000 Subject: Install problem, FC4 Test 3 DVD In-Reply-To: <428B7888.1030205@broadpark.no> References: <42874EAE.4020604@odegardfamily.org> <428B7888.1030205@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <428B8D54.7090006@xphuang.com> I had this problem before. I had use the download from firefox and the file was only 2Gbytes long. I re-downloaded it using FTP directly and the file was about 2.6Gbytes and worked fine. Wilbur Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > Mike Odegard wrote: > >> When I boot from the DVD version of FC4 Test 3, with either the x86 >> or x86_64 version, the install gets to the point where you choose >> 'install from cdrom', and then ejects the DVD, and asks for the >> CD-Rom of Fedora. >> >> Has anyone else had this problem? >> > It worked fine for me, please see my mail: "Obersvations after > installing FC4t3". > > Regards, > Truls From ignitionworks at yahoo.com Wed May 18 18:51:45 2005 From: ignitionworks at yahoo.com (IgnitionWorks) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues.. In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050518185145.38402.qmail@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> > > I've read Bugzilla reports that support for it stops > when the kernel hits 2.6.11, so I'm wondering what I > can do to try to motivate this installer in finding > my Compaq Presario's (R4000 series) touchpad, or is > it mostly a kernel issue? > I have same problems with synaptic and ALPS touchpad. I had to revert to 2.6.10-770 kernel. Apparently there is a new synaptic release 0.14.1 if you want to compile from src. I haven't tried it myself. Josh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed May 18 19:03:14 2005 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:03:14 -0400 Subject: selinux and acpi actions... In-Reply-To: <1116439411.5100.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <428806A0.30902@amberpoint.com> <428B4765.8010905@redhat.com> <428B537A.6080706@amberpoint.com> <1116439411.5100.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <428B9172.1050804@redhat.com> Peter Jones wrote: >On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 07:38 -0700, Bikehead wrote: > > >>I probably don't since I'm trying to get suspend to memory. However, I >>am using the instructions for acpi action scripts from this site: >>http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~afedosov/thinkpad/acpi.shtml. It is writing to >>/tmp/suspended in order to protect against a problem where the power >>event was triggered after a resume from suspend to disk so that the >>powerbutton.sh action could differentiate between a true shutdown and a >>resume. >> >> > >It shouldn't really be using a predictably named file in /tmp for that. > > > How about /var/run? Dan -- From patrickm at myway.com Wed May 18 19:19:03 2005 From: patrickm at myway.com (Patrick) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Slooooow installation FC4t3 Message-ID: <20050518191903.06C9812D16@mprdmxin.myway.com> When installing FC4t3 on my laptop (HP OmniBook XE2, 64MB ram, PIII 333mhz) through NFS, I noticed how sloooooow it was installing. I know the laptop isn't a fancy machine, but FC3 did the whole thing in less than 1/3 of time FC4t3 is taking ?!?!? Hopefully, FC4 will be quicker... The only thing during install that was as quick as "normal" was package selection. As was the actual installation. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From wtallis at gmail.com Wed May 18 19:50:37 2005 From: wtallis at gmail.com (Billy Tallis) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:50:37 -0400 Subject: Slooooow installation FC4t3 In-Reply-To: <20050518191903.06C9812D16@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20050518191903.06C9812D16@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <6dd99a3f050518125067996401@mail.gmail.com> On 5/18/05, Patrick wrote: > > When installing FC4t3 on my laptop (HP OmniBook XE2, 64MB ram, PIII 333mhz) through NFS, I noticed how sloooooow it was installing. > > I know the laptop isn't a fancy machine, but FC3 did the whole thing in less than 1/3 of time FC4t3 is taking ?!?!? > > Hopefully, FC4 will be quicker... > > The only thing during install that was as quick as "normal" was package selection. As was the actual installation. > So selecting packages and the installing of them were at reasonable speed, but configuring things was slow? With the amount of ram you have, I am assuming that you were using the text mode installer. The only thing I can suggest is to do an install from cds next time, or use slinky from www.rule-project.org/download , as it is designed for low memory systems. Hopefully the homepage will be back up soon and slinky can be updated for FC4. It sounds like anaconda was too slow fetching the next step over nfs, but I thought that it keeps the whole installer in RAM. It could be that anaconda has just bloated more since FC3. From lynn at garlic.com Wed May 18 20:07:58 2005 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:07:58 -0600 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <20050518160043.2772673B4A@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050518160043.2772673B4A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <428BA09E.1030609@garlic.com> on 1gbyte, two pentium-II processor machine ... I've tried four different 13xx smp kernels ... and with all of them ... shortly after login ... processes will start hanging ... to the point that even cntrl-alt-backspace (x restart) won't do anything and i have to reboot. reverting to smp kernel 1276 and the problems don't appear. From patrickm at myway.com Wed May 18 20:17:13 2005 From: patrickm at myway.com (Patrick) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Slooooow installation FC4t3 Message-ID: <20050518201713.E5E33399A@mprdmxin.myway.com> But the strange thing is that FC3 on the same machine does install quicker... And I'm using the graphical installer in both cases. Reason for me to use the NFS install is the easiness, I only need one install-cd for all machines. It could be very well be possible Anaconda got bigger/slower for older machines. --- On Wed 05/18, Billy Tallis < wtallis at gmail.com > wrote: From: Billy Tallis [mailto: wtallis at gmail.com] To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:50:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Slooooow installation FC4t3 So selecting packages and the installing of them were at reasonable speed, but configuring things was slow? With the amount of ram you have, I am assuming that you were using the text mode installer. The only thing I can suggest is to do an install from cds next time, or use slinky from www.rule-project.org/download , as it is designed for low memory systems. Hopefully the homepage will be back up soon and slinky can be updated for FC4. It sounds like anaconda was too slow fetching the next step over nfs, but I thought that it keeps the whole installer in RAM. It could be that anaconda has just bloated more since FC3. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net Wed May 18 20:30:36 2005 From: thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net (Darwin H. Webb) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:30:36 -0700 Subject: Samba Home Share name is username, windows any share is username Message-ID: <1116448236.14285.7.camel@Jovette-14> Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:26:18 +0200 From: Roger Grosswiler Subject: Re: Samba Home Share name is username, windows any share is username To: thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net, For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: <428AD1FA.9080908 at gwch.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Darwin H. Webb schrieb: > The default share name for the home/username is username. > The new SELinux check box (allow home dir to be shared) seems to > automatically create the share? as I removed it after checking the > SELinux check box. And this is why. > > A Windows share created on the linux desktop defaults to a name of > username or username(2) and can not be renamed. > This is a workgroup so at first time access (either side of the net) it > is auth with a username and password. > > But now when the Windows share is opened for the first use, the wondow > comes up white with hour glass mouse pointer. It stays that way unitl > the close x is clicked and conformation to force close the window. > Then out of the blue, the /home/username folder pops up as if one had > clicked on Home. Close that and try another route. > Click on properties of windows share and it asks for wondws password, > accepts it and shows properties. Close that and clcik on windows share > again, ask for windows password, accepts, and open the shre with files > in the windows correctly. > > The double use of user name needs to be checked on? > > And if the windows shares can be renamed different than user name, > username(2), etc. The username all over the desktop is not very secure > either. :) > > Thank you, > > > > i did not use the homeshares in that way. Try in your [homes]-section [homes] comment = Home Directories path = /home/%U guest ok = no browseable = yes writable = yes create mask = 775 This makes your homedir directly point to your users homedir. try it without the selinux for homedir-support for samba. I created a separate homedir for my samba-shares in /users. If you wanna try this, just replace /home by whatever you want - don't forget to change it in your smb.conf either. HTH Roger 888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 Roger, I'm talking about a windows share. The smb icon on the FC4 desktop created by connect to computer. The FC4 username home dir is also shared out to windows, works fine. I don't believe you used that method on FC4T3 within the last week. :) SELinux turned OFF!!!!!!!!!!!! What year are you in? Never say that again. Darwin - I repoted this as a bug, which it is. P. S. This is my first reply and is built from the digest so if it is out of place, that's why. I now have real time mail. From pjones at redhat.com Wed May 18 20:49:30 2005 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:49:30 -0400 Subject: selinux and acpi actions... In-Reply-To: <428B9172.1050804@redhat.com> References: <428806A0.30902@amberpoint.com> <428B4765.8010905@redhat.com> <428B537A.6080706@amberpoint.com> <1116439411.5100.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <428B9172.1050804@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116449370.5100.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 15:03 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Peter Jones wrote: > > >On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 07:38 -0700, Bikehead wrote: > > > > > >>I probably don't since I'm trying to get suspend to memory. However, I > >>am using the instructions for acpi action scripts from this site: > >>http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~afedosov/thinkpad/acpi.shtml. It is writing to > >>/tmp/suspended in order to protect against a problem where the power > >>event was triggered after a resume from suspend to disk so that the > >>powerbutton.sh action could differentiate between a true shutdown and a > >>resume. > >> > >> > > > >It shouldn't really be using a predictably named file in /tmp for that. > > > > > > > How about /var/run? /var/run is fine, sure. Point being, the file needs to be in a directory only root can create files in. -- Peter From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 18 21:11:26 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:11:26 -0400 Subject: YUM: how to find out groups? In-Reply-To: <1116429485.11790.6.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> References: <4281B455.2060904@gwch.net> <1115796773.10234.135.camel@cutter> <4281B70A.1040707@gwch.net> <1115797562.10234.145.camel@cutter> <4281BC0D.9010708@gwch.net> <4281F310.8090406@gmx.de> <604aa791050511051759836ad3@mail.gmail.com> <1115822224.18462.6.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> <604aa7910505110825768dfedb@mail.gmail.com> <1116429485.11790.6.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <604aa79105051814116e3e3fee@mail.gmail.com> On 5/18/05, Panu Matilainen wrote: > [pmatilai at weasel repoquery]$ ./repoquery.py --groupmember k3b > sound-and-video excellent -jef"today's lesson: when building a magnetic confinement fusion device..always write down the correct number of turns for each magnetic field coil being used..so that 15 years later...other people don't have to guess"spaleta From cwt-lists at codexinteractive.com Wed May 18 21:16:11 2005 From: cwt-lists at codexinteractive.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:16:11 -0400 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues.. In-Reply-To: <20050518185145.38402.qmail@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050518185145.38402.qmail@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1116450971.2657.16.camel@ivan> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 11:51 -0700, IgnitionWorks wrote: > Apparently there is a new synaptic release 0.14.1 if > you want to compile from src. I haven't tried it > myself. You should be able to install the synaptics-0.14.2.i386.rpm from the development repo with yum. yum search synaptics I also found this useful for configuration: http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/synaptics.shtml > Josh -- Craig Thomas From cwt-lists at codexinteractive.com Wed May 18 21:21:49 2005 From: cwt-lists at codexinteractive.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:21:49 -0400 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues.. In-Reply-To: <1116450971.2657.16.camel@ivan> References: <20050518185145.38402.qmail@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> <1116450971.2657.16.camel@ivan> Message-ID: <1116451309.2657.19.camel@ivan> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 17:16 -0400, Craig Thomas wrote: > I also found this useful for configuration: > > http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/synaptics.shtml Forgot this too: [after rpm install] /usr/share/doc/synaptics-1.14.0 has some useful info. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed May 18 22:03:09 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:03:09 -0400 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <428BBB9D.2090905@insight.rr.com> > These files have a "Copyright by Microsoft" notice in each of them so I am not > sure about the legality of sharing them. However, I would be surprised if > the folks at Red Hat don't have XP installed somewhere in their organization > so they should be able to find the same files I did. Run fast, don't look back and avoid the hardware. Replace with something better and more free. -- Will LINUX ever overtake sliced bread as the #1 achievement of mankind? From jeffy5 at optonline.net Wed May 18 22:30:27 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:30:27 -0400 Subject: Subscription Alert??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428BC203.3050501@optonline.net> Sean Earp wrote: > Hello All- > > I just did a clean install of FC4T3 via DVD, while not connected to > the internet. Upon my first login to the GUI, I received a popup box > that said: > > "Subscription Alert > > Your Subscription has not been activated. > > This may be because your system is not networked or one of the three > Red Hat registration steps were not completed. > > It is important to activate your subscription so you can access teh > services that keep your system secure and supported. > > -Activate now (recommended) > -Activate later at www.redhat.com/activate > > -Do not activate > > Need Help? Contact Customer service at www.redhat.com/contact" > > > > Has Fedora introduced registration between FC4T2 and FC4T3, or is this > a vestigial remnant of one of the commercial RH distributions that is > still left in Fedora? > > -Sean > Hello Sean, I am getting the same thing. I don't know why because I had done a complete install a couple of days ago and did not receive this notice. Jeff From ejlmd at optonline.net Wed May 18 23:04:18 2005 From: ejlmd at optonline.net (ejlmd at optonline.net) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:04:18 -0400 Subject: Kernel panic after update Message-ID: <5a757ef5a74df1.5a74df15a757ef@optonline.net> I've been running fedora rawhide for about a year. For the past 2 weeks or so, when the kernel updates and then installs automatically through 'yum update', the new kernel consistently fails to boot (kernel panic). My root partition is hda1. After the yum update, when I review grub.conf, I find, for example, 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 ro root=/dev/hda1 /dev/hdb2' rather than '....root=/dev/hda1'. Even if I delete the extra '/dev/hdb2', I still get kernel panic on reboot. The last kernel to successfully install and boot for me was 2.6.11-1.1240_FC4. Thank you. From rodd at clarkson.id.au Wed May 18 23:42:43 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:42:43 +1000 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <428BBB9D.2090905@insight.rr.com> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> <428BBB9D.2090905@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1116459763.3483.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 18:03 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > > These files have a "Copyright by Microsoft" notice in each of them so I am not > > sure about the legality of sharing them. However, I would be surprised if > > the folks at Red Hat don't have XP installed somewhere in their organization > > so they should be able to find the same files I did. > > Run fast, don't look back and avoid the hardware. Replace with something > better and more free. I'm a little confused by this comment. So what, Microsoft has a copyright on some text based files in Windows. Big woop. I'm a GPL developer and last time I looked I had a copyright on the software I create. In fact, I read a book the other day that was copyrighted. (Maybe I should stop reading it). In a nut shell (and IANAL) all copyright means is that you can't copy the material lock-stock-and-barrel (or portions of) without the permission of the author. In my case, I grant that permission under the GPL. While Microsoft may not have granted permission to copy the file (so it may mean that the Redhat engineers, or someone, might need to find a local copy of the file and read it there) there's nothing stopping you reading copyrighted materials and apply knowledge you learn from it - you just can't copy it. This, as I understand it, is all the Redhat engineers want to do. It's just like when you read a copyrighted technical manual to learn how the product works and then apply the knowledge. Do you seriously think that because something is copyrighted it (or products it's related to) show be trashed and alternatives found? Rodd > -- > Will LINUX ever overtake sliced bread as the #1 achievement > of mankind? -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From jmorris at redhat.com Wed May 18 23:58:52 2005 From: jmorris at redhat.com (James Morris) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kernel panic after update In-Reply-To: <5a757ef5a74df1.5a74df15a757ef@optonline.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 May 2005 ejlmd at optonline.net wrote: > I've been running fedora rawhide for about a year. > For the past 2 weeks or so, when the kernel updates and then installs automatically through 'yum update', the new kernel consistently fails to boot (kernel panic). > My root partition is hda1. After the yum update, when I review grub.conf, I find, for example, > 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 ro root=/dev/hda1 > /dev/hdb2' > rather than '....root=/dev/hda1'. Even if I delete the extra '/dev/hdb2', I still get kernel panic on reboot. > The last kernel to successfully install and boot for me was 2.6.11-1.1240_FC4. I think this may be a mkinitrd problem, which is fixed by mkinitrd-4.2.15-1 (doesn't look to be available externally yet, but should be soon, I imagine). - James -- James Morris From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu May 19 00:42:42 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:42:42 -0400 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <1116459763.3483.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> <428BBB9D.2090905@insight.rr.com> <1116459763.3483.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <428BE102.6050002@insight.rr.com> Rodd Clarkson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 18:03 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>>These files have a "Copyright by Microsoft" notice in each of them so I am not >>>sure about the legality of sharing them. However, I would be surprised if >>>the folks at Red Hat don't have XP installed somewhere in their organization >>>so they should be able to find the same files I did. >> >>Run fast, don't look back and avoid the hardware. Replace with something >>better and more free. > > > I'm a little confused by this comment. So what, Microsoft has a > copyright on some text based files in Windows. Big woop. > > I'm a GPL developer and last time I looked I had a copyright on the > software I create. In fact, I read a book the other day that was > copyrighted. (Maybe I should stop reading it). > > In a nut shell (and IANAL) all copyright means is that you can't copy > the material lock-stock-and-barrel (or portions of) without the > permission of the author. In my case, I grant that permission under the > GPL. > > While Microsoft may not have granted permission to copy the file (so it > may mean that the Redhat engineers, or someone, might need to find a > local copy of the file and read it there) there's nothing stopping you > reading copyrighted materials and apply knowledge you learn from it - > you just can't copy it. This, as I understand it, is all the Redhat > engineers want to do. It's just like when you read a copyrighted > technical manual to learn how the product works and then apply the > knowledge. > > Do you seriously think that because something is copyrighted it (or > products it's related to) show be trashed and alternatives found? > > > Rodd > Copyright has taken on the traits of limiting creativity, usability, improvements and the like. The inf files are probably as you refer to and would be like reading a book or learning from observing one's approach to some problem and improving on the product, idea or service. I don't see anything wrong with submitting the inf file and having the settings added to the list. I don't look for things with limitations imposed on them. It would be wise to not follow the trends to restrictions and aim for getting stuf copylefted instead. After toying with a Nvidia video card that came with something my wife bought, I gave away the video card to someone else that runs something that open-source drivers and improving drivers is not a concern for. If Nvidia contributed to, or at least made available to others how to make their software to work, I would change my opinion of their products. Until then, run, don't look back and forget about their offerings. In the case of monitors, refresh rates, scan frequencies, etc are knowledge given to prevent someone from frying their monitors. I think the information prevents fires, blue smoke and excessive landfill. If it is available, then the information should be used. Remember, only M$ can prevent forest fires. (or was it "Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires") JIm -- Will LINUX ever overtake sliced bread as the #1 achievement of mankind? From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 19 01:41:50 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:41:50 +1000 Subject: Problems burning CDs in FC4t3 Message-ID: <1116466910.3483.33.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> I'm having troubles burning a CD using FC4t3 which is fully updates. I don't burn a lot of CD's so I'm not sure when this might have started occurring, but I used FC4t1 (fully updated) to burn the FC4t3 DVD iso which (obviously) worked. I've successfully burnt a CD-RW about four days ago. I'm using the Nautilus-cd-burner software to burn to disk and it keeps burning disks that aren't complete (there should be about 333MB of disk used, but only about 1 sixth to 1 third of the disk gets burnt (visually looking at the area of disk that's used). I have tried three different brands of media including two CD-Rs and a CD-RW that I wrote to successfully using the same burner about two weeks ago. The folder I'm burning from works fine, and I've made a copy of the ISO that nautilus-cd-burner produces and it works to (using mount -o loop ... to test). The burner is a _NEC DVD+/-RW ND-6500A and was included as part of a Dell Inspiration 8600. I've managed to burn three copies that now work, and (visually) looking at the amount of disk space used on the disk surface, there's no way enough of these disks was burnt. I noticed on the final faulty burn that fixation of the disk started about a third of the way through the burn (given the position of the progress bar). I've now managed to burn to a DVD+R, a CD-RW and a CD-R (the later two being the same media used earlier). The only obvious difference with these three was that I watched the burns (instead of going off and doing other things on the laptop) but this might be pure luck. Regardless, something is up with burning. Has anyone else noticed this too. Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 19 01:51:50 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:51:50 +1000 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <428BE102.6050002@insight.rr.com> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> <428BBB9D.2090905@insight.rr.com> <1116459763.3483.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <428BE102.6050002@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1116467510.3483.43.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 20:42 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Copyright has taken on the traits of limiting creativity, usability, > improvements and the like. Copyright just protects the authors right to use their material how they deem fit. It in no way limits creativity. Usability and improvements may be hindered, not directly because of copyright, but because of other restrictions placed on the materials. I, as a developer of GPL software use copyright to demand that anyone using my software adhere to the license I've imposed on it, in my case the GPL (or LGPL). Without copyright, anyone could just take my software and use it any way they wished (including in proprietary software) regardless of whether I approved or not. If I wanted this to be the case, then I could choose another license, but I like to think that if others want to benefit from my work then they should, but only if they will allow others to benefit from the work they have added to mine. But this is all license related, and has nothing to do with copyright. Don't blame copyright for limiting creativity - blame other factors - like licenses - that are imposed on the product in question. Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu May 19 02:28:21 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:28:21 -0400 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <1116467510.3483.43.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> <428BBB9D.2090905@insight.rr.com> <1116459763.3483.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <428BE102.6050002@insight.rr.com> <1116467510.3483.43.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <428BF9C5.2070200@insight.rr.com> Rodd Clarkson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 20:42 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>Copyright has taken on the traits of limiting creativity, usability, >>improvements and the like. > > > Copyright just protects the authors right to use their material how they > deem fit. It in no way limits creativity. Usability and improvements > may be hindered, not directly because of copyright, but because of other > restrictions placed on the materials. > > I, as a developer of GPL software use copyright to demand that anyone > using my software adhere to the license I've imposed on it, in my case > the GPL (or LGPL). Without copyright, anyone could just take my > software and use it any way they wished (including in proprietary > software) regardless of whether I approved or not. If I wanted this to > be the case, then I could choose another license, but I like to think > that if others want to benefit from my work then they should, but only > if they will allow others to benefit from the work they have added to > mine. But this is all license related, and has nothing to do with > copyright. > > Don't blame copyright for limiting creativity - blame other factors - > like licenses - that are imposed on the product in question. > > > Rodd > Just after reading the prior response to this thread, I checked another email account that pointed to the Red Hat Magazine. The topics were patents, copyrights, trademarks, automated tools for software compliance management. I can't really argue about any of the topics that are not clearly understood. It is a shame that people fear a flock of lawyers coming after them for submitting things as simple as a funny picture or an information file. It is wise to try to prevent things that you might have started the ball rolling to be used by others to demand money for something that you might freely want to share. It is also bad for one to have hardware and cannot get proper functionality because of trade secrets or whatever invention of discourse they created to cause disputes. I belive we are not to far out of sync w/ ideals, just the water is far too muddy to ever come to a realistic conclusion. Jim -- Will LINUX ever overtake sliced bread as the #1 achievement of mankind? From generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp Thu May 19 04:16:59 2005 From: generic at olive.ocn.ne.jp (Namikawa, Shozo) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:16:59 +0900 Subject: Hi all!! add "up2date command after FC4test3 installation" bug? In-Reply-To: <428973A1.5030701@olive.ocn.ne.jp> References: <428827A7.8040802@aol.com> <428973A1.5030701@olive.ocn.ne.jp> Message-ID: <428C133B.6010302@olive.ocn.ne.jp> It is bugs, follows...? I was successful when I added two lines to yumRepo.py. 1. change to /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [root at localhost share]# rpm -q up2date up2date-4.4.17-1 up2date-4.4.18-1 [root at localhost share]# diff -u /usr/share/rhn.org/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py --- /usr/share/rhn.org/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py 2005-05-19 09:04:10.000000000 +0900 +++ /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py 2005-05-19 11:05:16.000000000 +0900 @@ -76,11 +76,12 @@ channels = rhnChannel.getChannels() channel = channels.getByLabel(package[6]) url = "%s/headers/%s" % (channel['url'],remoteFilename ) + url = string.replace(url, '//headers', '/headers') #### ins generic : There was an error downloading: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fed ora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/gcc-c++-0-4.0.0-6.i386.hdr if msgCallback: msgCallback("Fetching %s" % url) # heck, maybe even borrow the one from yum - + hdr = None #### ins generic : stop up2date for exceptions.UnboundLocalError nohdr = 1 count = 0 while ((nohdr) and (count < 5)): [root at localhost share]# ------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.Reproduction ------------------------------------------------------------------- [root at localhost up2date]# up2date "[G-x]*" - snip - Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: development... Fetching rpm headers... There was an error downloading: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/gcc-c++-0-4.0.0-6.i386.hdr There was an error downloading: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/gcc-c++-0-4.0.0-6.i386.hdr There was an error downloading: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/gcc-c++-0-4.0.0-6.i386.hdr There was an error downloading: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/gcc-c++-0-4.0.0-6.i386.hdr There was an error downloading: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386//headers/gcc-c++-0-4.0.0-6.i386.hdr An error has occurred: exceptions.UnboundLocalError See /var/log/up2date for more information [root at localhost up2date]# ------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. -- /var/log/up2date -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- [Thu May 19 10:52:24 2005] up2date File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1265, in ? sys.exit(main() or 0) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 800, in main fullUpdate, dryRun=options.dry_run)) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1120, in batchRun batch.init() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateBatch.py", line 65, in init self.__findPackagesToUpdate() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateBatch.py", line 112, in __findPackagesToUpdate self.availableUpdates = plist.getPackagesToInstall() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/packageList.py", line 625, in getPackagesToInstall result = self.__skipPackages(result) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/packageList.py", line 654, in __skipPackages packageList = self.__skipFiles(packageList) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/packageList.py", line 675, in __skipFiles ignoreMsgCallback = self.ignoreMsgCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/packageList.py", line 714, in buildHeaderList hdr = headerList[pkg] File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/headers.py", line 37, in __getitem__ self.__retrievePackage(item) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/headers.py", line 42, in __retrievePackage hdr, sourceType = rpcServer.doCall(self.repos.getHeader, item) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpcServer.py", line 309, in doCall ret = apply(method, args, kwargs) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 35, in getHeader return self.handlers[channel['type']].getHeader(pkg, msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 213, in getHeader header = source.getHeader(pkg, progressCallback = progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 112, in getHeader return hdr ------------------------------------------------------------------- Namikawa, Shozo wrote: > Jared Buck wrote: > >> How's everyone? I was excited to try out the rest3 version of FC4, >> it installed flawlessly on my machine, and so far have not been >> experiencing any problems except for when up2date freezes when it >> says it's gathering a list of packages on my machine. I read the >> messages and apparently it's a common bug everyone's experiencing so >> I'm not too worried about it. I'm using yum update instead and that >> works fine. >> >> I like all the new features, but it did take me a little bit to get >> used to where the configuration options are now (like add/remove >> packages, etc), but they're in a much more logical position now than >> they were before. Also love all the stuff that comes with KDE now, >> there's a ton of stuff I have yet to try out :) >> >> I've done beta testing before (I'm doing that now for an online game) >> so I know to expect bugs and glitches, but aside from the bug I've >> mentioned, test3's been working very well for me. >> >> Jared Buck >> Crestline, CA > > > After FC4test3 installation, considerable time has gone caused by > up2date included extras-development, > it result to no exist ".rpm" or invalid "url". > > Therefore, I up2date under development environment without > extras-development, > with clearing /var/spool/up2date just before each operation of up2date. > > 1. preparation > > 1.1 setting of "/etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources" > > 1) comment out extras-development > > "#yum extras-development > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/$ARCH/" > > "#yum-mirror extras-development > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-devel" > > 1.2 setting of "/etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date" > > 1) alternative setting on up2date > > #up2date-config --nox > > 7. pkgSkipList ['kernel*', 'GFS*', 'cman*', 'dlm*', 'gnbd*'] > 18. useGPG No > 19. headerCacheSize 1000 > 33. headerFetchCount 1000 > > 2. up2date --dry-run under up2date-4.4.17-1 > > 1) clear all .hdr under "/var/spool/up2date" > 2) #up2date --dry-run > 3) ==> get avairable package > > 3. up2date up2date* (up2date-4.4.17-1 -> up2date-4.4.18-1) > > 1) clear all .hdr under "/var/spool/up2date" > 2)#up2date up2date* > > 4. up2date --dry-run under up2date-4.4.18-1 > > 1) clear all .hdr under "/var/spool/up2date" > 2) #up2date --dry-run > 3) ==> get avairable package > > 5. up2date all > > 1) clear all .hdr under "/var/spool/up2date" > 2) "#up2date "[C-x]*" > > If failed, try each step. > From davej at redhat.com Thu May 19 04:57:57 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:57:57 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test Update: kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 Message-ID: <200505190457.j4J4vvOW014434@devserv.devel.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2005-379 2005-05-17 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 3 Name : kernel Version : 2.6.11 Release : 1.27_FC3 Summary : The Linux kernel (the core of the Linux operating system) Description : The kernel package contains the Linux kernel (vmlinuz), the core of any Linux operating system. The kernel handles the basic functions of the operating system: memory allocation, process allocation, device input and output, etc. Due to the collection of security fixes piling up, this is going to go out as an update in the next few days unless someone finds something catastrophically wrong with it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Dave Jones - Remove the unused (and outdated) Xen patches from the FC3 tree. * Mon May 16 2005 Dave Jones - Rebase to 2.6.11.10, (fixing CAN-2005-1264) * Thu May 12 2005 Dave Jones - Rebase to 2.6.11.9, (fixing CAN-2005-1263) * Tue May 10 2005 Dave Jones - Fix two bugs in x86-64 page fault handler. * Mon May 9 2005 Dave Jones - Rebase to 2.6.11.8 | Fixes CAN-2005-1368 (local DoS in key lookup). (#156680) | Fixes CAN-2005-1369 (i2c alarms sysfs DoS). (#156683) - Merge IDE fixes from 2.6.11-ac7 - Add Conflicts for older IPW firmwares. - Fix conntrack leak with raw sockets. * Sun May 1 2005 Dave Jones - Various firewire fixes backported from -mm. (#133798) (Thanks to Jody McIntyre for doing this) * Fri Apr 29 2005 Dave Jones - fix oops in aacraid open when using adaptec tools. (#148761) - Blacklist another brainless SCSI scanner. (#155457) * Thu Apr 21 2005 Dave Jones - Fix up SCSI queue locking. (#155472) * Tue Apr 19 2005 Dave Jones - SCSI tape security: require CAP_ADMIN for SG_IO etc. (#155355) * Mon Apr 18 2005 Dave Jones - Retry more aggressively during USB device initialization * Thu Apr 14 2005 Dave Jones - Build DRM modular. (#154769) * Fri Apr 8 2005 Dave Jones - Disable Longhaul driver (again). --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/ e14dcd5e8c520e6afe51b4d6f8317ebb SRPMS/kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.src.rpm 2b654539762a42e2a761ec65b5bc1c30 x86_64/kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.x86_64.rpm f34938e71d5b7e43247fe11d85bf3e67 x86_64/kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.x86_64.rpm 0620f2eaa09eebafdc56e06f07f3c697 x86_64/debug/kernel-debuginfo-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.x86_64.rpm a95d2fa3a36398a6a7247ef2e48070d0 x86_64/kernel-doc-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.noarch.rpm 3a204dfa66c6e81d53c4668d8fa4c501 i386/kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i586.rpm a40fdcc57195f0607a39a6ff9988c980 i386/kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i586.rpm 0a4d7db03690e0ed7c165dc6c4f11c99 i386/debug/kernel-debuginfo-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i586.rpm 2f4a0c52eac96d13f0b31ec759693ac8 i386/kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i686.rpm 0fc7abe2226243524c656cae43367d67 i386/kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i686.rpm 8d3ef1f8020d3ede403c747c24e8d8e0 i386/debug/kernel-debuginfo-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i686.rpm a95d2fa3a36398a6a7247ef2e48070d0 i386/kernel-doc-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.noarch.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/$ARCH --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mal42north at yahoo.com Thu May 19 05:26:28 2005 From: mal42north at yahoo.com (malcolm northcott) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:26:28 -0700 Subject: ipw2200 and network manager In-Reply-To: <1116351608.11949.12.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116351608.11949.12.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116480388.5857.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Following Dan's lead I noticed that there was no firmware.... probably not good. I downloaded the latest ipw2200 driver and firmware from ipw2200.sourceforge.net (1.0.4). After installation everything worked fine. Presumably the ipw2100 is also missing firmware. Is the missing firmware an oversight or is it due to an IP issue with binary firmware? On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 13:40 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 08:16 -0700, malcolm northcott wrote: > > Just confirming that I saw exactly the same ipw2200 problem on my > > Thinkpad R51. > > I also noted that ACPI still does not work for sleep mode. > > Assuming the card is eth1, can you post the results of: > > find /sys/class/net/eth1 > > And also attach the output of "lshal" command to a reply? Also make > sure your firmware is in /lib/firmware. > > Thanks! > Dan > Replies to Dan Williams questions. Contents of network configuration "Hardware" tab Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet controller Ethernet eth0 okIntel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Ethernet eth1 ok Results from "find /sys/class/net/eth1" find: /sys/class/net/eth1: No such file or directory Contents of /lib/firmware: Nothing zippo nada. Hmm this looks like a serious problem.... Results from "lshal" Emailed separately since they are so long. Reply to Peter Jones. Oops, forgot to do this before I replaced the driver. Reply to colin Charles questions (sleep mode). I have a Radion Mobility 7500, so maybe that is the problem. Sleep seems to work in apm mode in FC4 (by passing the kernel arg acpi=off). From roger at gwch.net Thu May 19 05:57:36 2005 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:57:36 +0200 Subject: Samba Home Share name is username, windows any share is username In-Reply-To: <1116448236.14285.7.camel@Jovette-14> References: <1116448236.14285.7.camel@Jovette-14> Message-ID: <428C2AD0.7010307@gwch.net> > Roger, > > I'm talking about a windows share. The smb icon on the FC4 desktop > created by connect to computer. > > The FC4 username home dir is also shared out to windows, works fine. > > I don't believe you used that method on FC4T3 within the last week. :) > > SELinux turned OFF!!!!!!!!!!!! What year are you in? Never say that > again. > > Darwin - I repoted this as a bug, which it is. > > P. S. This is my first reply and is built from the digest so if it is > out of place, that's why. I now have real time mail. > > Unknown, Sorry, for misunderstanding, i thought you were talking about connecting to a samba-server, nevermind. You are right, i never used this method and i think i never gonna use it either :-) Of course, i never would disable selinux-protection, except for testing - won't you? ;-) Roger From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Thu May 19 06:07:38 2005 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Nifty Hat Mitch) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 23:07:38 -0700 Subject: New kernel x86_64 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 ide=nodma regression Message-ID: <20050519060738.GD3655@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> The new kernel... 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 x86_64 requires ide=nodma when the previous kernel-2.6.11-1.1312_FC4 did not. Without ide=nodma this system panics and does not boot. I am sure the LanParty MB chipset info matters, so here is too much info... # lpci 00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb Host Bridge (rev a1) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb LPC Bridge (rev a2) 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce 250Gb PCI System Management (rev a1) 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK8S USB Controller (rev a1) 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK8S USB Controller (rev a1) 00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev a2) 00:05.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK8S Ethernet Controller (rev a2) 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1) 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Parallel ATA Controller (v2.5) (rev a2) 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Serial ATA Controller (v2.5) (rev a2) 00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Serial ATA Controller (v2.5) (rev a2) 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AGP Host to PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb PCI-to-PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) 02:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80) 02:08.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10) -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new place to hang my hat :-) From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 19 06:15:26 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:15:26 +1000 Subject: ipw2200 and network manager In-Reply-To: <1116480388.5857.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116351608.11949.12.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1116480388.5857.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116483326.3483.50.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 22:26 -0700, malcolm northcott wrote: > Following Dan's lead I noticed that there was no firmware.... probably > not good. I downloaded the latest ipw2200 driver and firmware from > ipw2200.sourceforge.net (1.0.4). After installation everything worked > fine. > Presumably the ipw2100 is also missing firmware. > Is the missing firmware an oversight or is it due to an IP issue with > binary firmware? It's due to the license of the firmware (and the interpretation of that license, which seems a little vague and unclear). Sadly Intel don't seem that responsive to addressing the issue. It's been discussed here, in fedora-devel and on the redhat-legal (???) list so search for discussion there (before it blows up into a thousand threads again). R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From davej at redhat.com Thu May 19 06:16:25 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 02:16:25 -0400 Subject: New kernel x86_64 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 ide=nodma regression In-Reply-To: <20050519060738.GD3655@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <20050519060738.GD3655@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <20050519061625.GA28182@redhat.com> On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 11:07:38PM -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: > > The new kernel... 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 x86_64 > requires ide=nodma when the previous > kernel-2.6.11-1.1312_FC4 did not. > > Without ide=nodma this system panics and does not boot. > > I am sure the LanParty MB chipset info matters, > so here is too much info... please file in bugzilla, along with the text from the panic. thanks, Dave From jbourne at hardrock.org Thu May 19 06:32:17 2005 From: jbourne at hardrock.org (James Bourne) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:32:17 -0600 (MDT) Subject: upgrade to Fedora Core 4 Test 3 notes Message-ID: Here are my notes and findings upgrading my amd workstation to FC4T3 from FC3. Not a typical user, I use autofs to mount nfs from mappings stored in LDAP, and use LDAP for authentication and user lookup (nss and pam). If any of these are duplicates, have been resolved, or won't be looked at let me know and I won't bother putting in bugzilla entries for them. Otherwise I'll create new bugs for them in the next few days. BTW, I think the anaconda swap issue might cause a lot of upgrade headaches. Regards James ---------------------------- Upgrade from fc3: Minor issues: o gda-postgres problem (libpq.so.3), gda-postgres was still installed and required libpq.so.3 which yum update removes or which was removed with the install. o wl-xemacs problem (apel-xemacs >= 10.5) -- removed these, ran "yum update" again and the issues were resolved o No mention of kernel-devel in the release notes for fc4 Major issues: o During upgrade (anaconda) did not find SWAP-hda3 label that was added during fc3 install and did not enable swap until I reset the swap line to /dev/hda3 in fstab o snmpd did not work, was not upgraded from net-snmp-5.2.1-10.FC3, bump version to fix. o using nss_ldap failed hostname lookup for host in /etc/ldap.conf. Had to change hostname and remove start_tls. Problem is new feature of verifying the ssl hostname. Need to work around that, but should not cause programs to segfault at any rate (ldap working or not). ---------------------------- -- James Bourne | Email: jbourne at hardrock.org UNIX Systems Administration | WWW: http://www.hardrock.org Custom UNIX Programming | Linux: The choice of a GNU generation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "All you need's an occasional kick in the philosophy." Frank Herbert From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu May 19 07:12:28 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:12:28 +0200 Subject: extras rawhide report Message-ID: <428C3C5C.3010202@gmx.de> hi, it seems that 'extras-rawhide' is not build in a regular daily manner like 'rawhide'. last rawhide 2005-05-18, extras-rawhide 2005-05-16 is it possible to send "extras rawhide reports" to this list or are these changes included in the "rawhide-reports" ? -- shrek-m From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Thu May 19 07:18:10 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 03:18:10 -0400 Subject: extras rawhide report In-Reply-To: <428C3C5C.3010202@gmx.de> References: <428C3C5C.3010202@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1116487090.7161.44.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 09:12 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > it seems that 'extras-rawhide' is not build in a regular daily manner > like 'rawhide'. Correct. It happens, deal. > is it possible to send "extras rawhide reports" to this list or are > these changes included in the "rawhide-reports" ? They're handled on fedora-extras-list. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From blackman at pharm.uoa.gr Thu May 19 07:38:55 2005 From: blackman at pharm.uoa.gr (James Black) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:38:55 +0300 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 Message-ID: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> I found out that many packages can't compile with gcc v4. Since Fedora 4 will be released soon it might be a good idea for compatibility reasons to also include the gcc v3. It also would be nice if Fedora includes a scrift to switch temporally from gcc v4 to gcc v3 something like gcc_choose or something... I know for compatibility reasons you have include the gcc32 but it's a 32 bit not a 64 bit compiler. The issue affect multimedia software like Xvid, Mplayer etc. I would apreciate your answer James From davej at redhat.com Thu May 19 07:36:55 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 03:36:55 -0400 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> Message-ID: <20050519073654.GA10188@redhat.com> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 10:38:55AM +0300, James Black wrote: > I found out that many packages can't compile with gcc v4. Since Fedora 4 > will be released soon it might be a good idea for compatibility reasons > to also include the gcc v3. It also would be nice if Fedora includes a > scrift to switch temporally from gcc v4 to gcc v3 something like > gcc_choose or something... I know for compatibility reasons you have > include the gcc32 but it's a 32 bit not a 64 bit compiler. > The issue affect multimedia software like Xvid, Mplayer etc. > I would apreciate your answer Getting those packages building is well worth the invested effort. Especially considering advantages like being able to build with FORTIFY_SOURCE to spot potential security holes. (Hmm, are -extras being built with this flag I wonder?) Dave From rc040203 at freenet.de Thu May 19 07:57:42 2005 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:57:42 +0200 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20050519073654.GA10188@redhat.com> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519073654.GA10188@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116489462.19311.102.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 03:36 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > (Hmm, are -extras being built with this flag I wonder?) In general, -extras uses $RPM_OPT_FLAGS - i.e. whatever rpm puts into it. Ralf From davej at redhat.com Thu May 19 08:05:21 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 04:05:21 -0400 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1116489462.19311.102.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519073654.GA10188@redhat.com> <1116489462.19311.102.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> Message-ID: <20050519080521.GB10188@redhat.com> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 09:57:42AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 03:36 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > > (Hmm, are -extras being built with this flag I wonder?) > > In general, -extras uses $RPM_OPT_FLAGS - i.e. whatever rpm puts into > it. Good enough. /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/macros has.. %__global_cflags -O2 -g -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions Dave From jakub at redhat.com Thu May 19 08:21:16 2005 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 04:21:16 -0400 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> Message-ID: <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 10:38:55AM +0300, James Black wrote: > I found out that many packages can't compile with gcc v4. Since Fedora 4 > will be released soon it might be a good idea for compatibility reasons > to also include the gcc v3. It also would be nice if Fedora includes a > scrift to switch temporally from gcc v4 to gcc v3 something like > gcc_choose or something... I know for compatibility reasons you have > include the gcc32 but it's a 32 bit not a 64 bit compiler. > The issue affect multimedia software like Xvid, Mplayer etc. > I would apreciate your answer gcc32 is a compatibility GCC 3.2.x compiler, not some unspecified 32-bit compiler. So on 64-bit arches, it is 64-bit/32-bit depending on -m{64,32,31} as the primary compiler. Still, it would be far better to fix the applications that don't built with GCC 4 in time for FC4. In most cases it is caused by application bugs rather than GCC bugs. Jakub From paolini at dmf.unicatt.it Thu May 19 10:38:12 2005 From: paolini at dmf.unicatt.it (Maurizio Paolini) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:38:12 +0200 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:21:16AM -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 10:38:55AM +0300, James Black wrote: > > I found out that many packages can't compile with gcc v4. Since Fedora 4 > > will be released soon it might be a good idea for compatibility reasons > > to also include the gcc v3. It also would be nice if Fedora includes a > > scrift to switch temporally from gcc v4 to gcc v3 something like > > gcc_choose or something... I know for compatibility reasons you have > > include the gcc32 but it's a 32 bit not a 64 bit compiler. > > The issue affect multimedia software like Xvid, Mplayer etc. > > I would apreciate your answer > > gcc32 is a compatibility GCC 3.2.x compiler, not some unspecified > 32-bit compiler. So on 64-bit arches, it is 64-bit/32-bit depending > on -m{64,32,31} as the primary compiler. One of those applications is "kde"! I don't know if the problems are originated from gcc4 issues of from kde issues. Problem is that the compatibility version "gcc32" could be good for most of kde, but not for the whole of it; as an example I already pointed out the case of "kig" which compiles with gcc32 only with python-scripting disabled due to an incompatibility of gcc32 with the boost libraries, while it compiles fine with gcc-3.4.2. As a result FC4T3 has kig with python-scripting disabled, which is a real pity, since in FC3 scripting in kig was perfectly functional! I opened a bug with bugzilla related to this issue a few days ago, but I did not get any feedback yet. Cheers, Maurizio Paolini From arjanv at redhat.com Thu May 19 10:41:50 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:41:50 +0200 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> Message-ID: <1116499310.6027.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 12:38 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:21:16AM -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 10:38:55AM +0300, James Black wrote: > > > I found out that many packages can't compile with gcc v4. Since Fedora 4 > > > will be released soon it might be a good idea for compatibility reasons > > > to also include the gcc v3. It also would be nice if Fedora includes a > > > scrift to switch temporally from gcc v4 to gcc v3 something like > > > gcc_choose or something... I know for compatibility reasons you have > > > include the gcc32 but it's a 32 bit not a 64 bit compiler. > > > The issue affect multimedia software like Xvid, Mplayer etc. > > > I would apreciate your answer > > > > gcc32 is a compatibility GCC 3.2.x compiler, not some unspecified > > 32-bit compiler. So on 64-bit arches, it is 64-bit/32-bit depending > > on -m{64,32,31} as the primary compiler. > > One of those applications is "kde"! odd.. we compile KDE all the time with gcc4 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org Thu May 19 11:33:25 2005 From: ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org (Steven P. Ulrick) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 06:33:25 -0500 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1116499310.6027.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116499310.6027.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:41:50 +0200 Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 12:38 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:21:16AM -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > > One of those applications is "kde"! > > odd.. we compile KDE all the time with gcc4 Hello, Everyone Since I frequent the kde-devel and kde-user lists, in addition to compiling, on a very regular basis, KDE from CVS (now SVN) HEAD on Fedora Core 3, I do know a LITTLE about this issue. Below is a link to the CVS commit where KDE's blacklisting of GCC4 seems to have started: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cvs&m=111451142117674&w=2 In a nutshell, the reasoning is this: > CVS commit by mueller: > > blacklist gcc 4.0.0. Its the first compiler we have to blacklist > because it miscompiles KDE. Have a Great Day, Steven P. Ulrick From ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org Thu May 19 11:44:17 2005 From: ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org (Steven P. Ulrick) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 06:44:17 -0500 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116499310.6027.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> Message-ID: <20050519064417.4d5d9dd8@afolkey2.net> On Thu, 19 May 2005 06:33:25 -0500 "Steven P. Ulrick" wrote: > On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:41:50 +0200 > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 12:38 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:21:16AM -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > > > > One of those applications is "kde"! > > > > odd.. we compile KDE all the time with gcc4 > > Hello, Everyone > Since I frequent the kde-devel and kde-user lists, in addition to > compiling, on a very regular basis, KDE from CVS (now SVN) HEAD on > Fedora Core 3, I do know a LITTLE about this issue. > Below is a link to the CVS commit where KDE's blacklisting of GCC4 > seems to have started: > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cvs&m=111451142117674&w=2 > > In a nutshell, the reasoning is this: > > CVS commit by mueller: > > > > blacklist gcc 4.0.0. Its the first compiler we have to blacklist > > because it miscompiles KDE. > > Have a Great Day, > Steven P. Ulrick Hello, Again Sorry to reply to my own post so soon, but I must add that I compiled KDE with GCC4 on FC3 for quite some time, and I personally had no issues with it. So, I have no intention on putting any/all blame on GCC4. Steven P. Ulrick From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Thu May 19 11:43:12 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:43:12 -0400 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <428C7BD0.1070609@www.linux.org.uk> Gene C. wrote: > OK, I don't have a Dell but I do have a Compaq Presario R3000z laptop > (Athlon64) with a widescreen capable of displaying 1920x1200. I checked the > drivers DVD that came with it and nothing there. I then checked XP itself (I > still have it installed in a shrunken partition) and there are a whole bunch > of .inf files (it looks like thousands and is at least hundreds). There are > eight "monitor" files (monitor, monitor2, monitor3, etc.). > > Looking at a couple of there file I see that they cover a number of > manufacturers (monitor.inf includes Compaq and Dell). > > These files have a "Copyright by Microsoft" notice in each of them so I am not If you have a monitor not known to our MonitorsDb database, go download the "monitor driver" from the manufacturer's website, and if it is a .zip file, or .exe, explode the file either in Windows using the appropriate utilities, or in Linux using either "unzip", "cabextract" or whatnot. Then surf the available files inside for the ".INF" files. Open a bug report in bugzilla and attach the relevant file (or files) to the report as a file attachment. We then take this file, and run the utility "inf2mondb.py" included in the hwdata package on it, and paste the results into the MonitorsDb file in the hwdata package. Alternatively, you can run inf2mondb.py on the files yourself and submit the output of the utility as a file attachment in bugzilla. In general however, if people just file a "my monitor does not get detected and is not on the list of monitors to choose from" in bugzilla, our response is "Attach the .INF file, and we'll add the monitor(s) to the database", and then we wait for the reporter or someone else to hunt down the actual files. Whoever reports the bug is generally expected to find the required files and attach them. We generally do not search the internet, download various files and attempt to find the relevant .INF file, as it is sometimes time consuming, and we generally do not have the hardware in question. As long as someone eventually attaches the requested files, we'll generally update the database however in a future build. > sure about the legality of sharing them. However, I would be surprised if > the folks at Red Hat don't have XP installed somewhere in their organization > so they should be able to find the same files I did. In general, we are very unlikely to race around the internet looking for monitor driver files from manufacturers and digging through them to drag out the .INF files. It's not really a function of wether XP is available, but more a function of effective use of manpower resources. If you're using Windows XP, either the monitor is detected via DDC and things just work, or Windows wants the CDROM or floppy disk from the monitor manufacturer, or the name of a directory on your hard disk where the .INF file or .exe file from the manufacturer's website has been downloaded to. So, in Linux, either the monitor is detected via DDC and things just work, or you can snarf the .INF off the CD or floppy disk from the monitor manufacturer, or download it from their website too. The only difference is that Windows can directly use the .INF file right away, whereas it has to currently be used indirectly in Linux, either by manually running inf2mondb.py yourself and pasting the results into MonitorsDb, or by submitting it to us in a bug report. What I'd like to see in the future, is system-config-display get enhanced to *directly* parse .INF files. Since manufacturers already supply them with every piece of hardware, it's easier to just write utilities to use the existing metadata, than it is to come up with some custom new Linux format and try to convince every hardware vendor to add some new file to their media. That's a future pie-in-the-sky enhancement idea though, so for now, it's .INF's to bugzilla... HTH From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Thu May 19 11:49:30 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:49:30 -0400 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4" widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <1116459763.3483.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1116377331.3461.3.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116422416.11142.0.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <200505180957.54099.czar@czarc.net> <428BBB9D.2090905@insight.rr.com> <1116459763.3483.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <428C7D4A.9080306@www.linux.org.uk> Rodd Clarkson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 18:03 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>>These files have a "Copyright by Microsoft" notice in each of them so I am not >>>sure about the legality of sharing them. However, I would be surprised if >>>the folks at Red Hat don't have XP installed somewhere in their organization >>>so they should be able to find the same files I did. >> >>Run fast, don't look back and avoid the hardware. Replace with something >>better and more free. > > > I'm a little confused by this comment. So what, Microsoft has a > copyright on some text based files in Windows. Big woop. > > I'm a GPL developer and last time I looked I had a copyright on the > software I create. In fact, I read a book the other day that was > copyrighted. (Maybe I should stop reading it). > > In a nut shell (and IANAL) all copyright means is that you can't copy > the material lock-stock-and-barrel (or portions of) without the > permission of the author. In my case, I grant that permission under the > GPL. > > While Microsoft may not have granted permission to copy the file (so it > may mean that the Redhat engineers, or someone, might need to find a > local copy of the file and read it there) there's nothing stopping you > reading copyrighted materials and apply knowledge you learn from it - > you just can't copy it. This, as I understand it, is all the Redhat > engineers want to do. It's just like when you read a copyrighted > technical manual to learn how the product works and then apply the > knowledge. > > Do you seriously think that because something is copyrighted it (or > products it's related to) show be trashed and alternatives found? If someone believes a specific .INF file, or any other file is non-redistributable, or otherwise under copyright terms that would make it potentially in violation of its license to provide it to Red Hat via email or bugzilla, then they should not include it. In the case of the .INF files for monitors, instead, you can download the hwdata src.rpm, install it, and run inf2mondb.py on the file, and paste the results into bugzilla, as this is what we do with the things. In general, the hardware vendors own the .INF files supplied with their drivers. I contacted a number of them in the past, as well as a very large 3 letter IHV who told me directly that if Red Hat wanted to actually ship .INF files for various hardware and use it in the OS, they themselves would contact all the relevant vendors downline and ensure they would relicense any files that were not already containing OSS friendly licenses. So, right now, there is a useable workaround of manually running inf2mondb.py if one is paranoid about the license of a trivial text file, and in the long run, we can just say "Insert CDROM from manufacturer of display, or browse to directory containing monitor driver", and let the user download the stuff and use it directly if we don't have one with the OS. I'd *really* like to see FC5 be able to use .INFs directly, but no promises... From arjanv at redhat.com Thu May 19 12:02:41 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:02:41 +0200 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116499310.6027.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> Message-ID: <20050519120241.GA19880@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 06:33:25AM -0500, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:41:50 +0200 > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 12:38 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:21:16AM -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > > > > One of those applications is "kde"! > > > > odd.. we compile KDE all the time with gcc4 > > Hello, Everyone > Since I frequent the kde-devel and kde-user lists, in addition to > compiling, on a very regular basis, KDE from CVS (now SVN) HEAD on > Fedora Core 3, I do know a LITTLE about this issue. > Below is a link to the CVS commit where KDE's blacklisting of GCC4 > seems to have started: > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cvs&m=111451142117674&w=2 the bug they mention is fixed in our gcc 4. From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Thu May 19 12:11:06 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:11:06 -0400 Subject: via module for x86_64 FC4 In-Reply-To: <1116259806.5439.2.camel@notebook.thl.home> References: <1116238982.24594.50.camel@ldesk.linnet.int> <1116259806.5439.2.camel@notebook.thl.home> Message-ID: <428C825A.6090607@www.linux.org.uk> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Am Montag, den 16.05.2005, 11:23 +0100 schrieb Andrew Gray: > >>Will there be a x86_64 "via" module for Xorg in the final FC4 release or >>am I missing something and it already exists. if so where? > > [...] > >>Any news would be helpful about video modules in x86_64 FC4 > > > Probably not: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=138825 > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1973 Once a driver is considered "stable" by X.Org, it gets enabled and/or committed to CVS head. A driver not committed to CVS head, can generally be taken as a sign that it is not considered stable, or that no developers have had the time to do the work. It isn't clear what the case is with the via driver on x86_64, so erring on the side of caution, the safe assumption is that it is unstable on x86_64. If people are genuinely interested in seeing the "via" driver enabled on x86_64 in FC4 - make some *friendly* noise on xorg at freedesktop.org and encourage discussion about it. Basically what needs to happen is: - discussion on xorg at freedesktop.org to convince people that it is stable to enable on CVS head, or that work needs to be done to stabilize it, and that work gets done and it gets enabled on CVS head - once in CVS head, someone needs to produce a patch for 6.8.x to bring the 6.8.x driver up to date with any fixes required to make it stable on x86_64, and then build and test it with 6.8.x, and get as many end users with x86_64 systems out there with via video to test it and provide feedback. (assuming any patches become necessary) - Once enough feedback is received to conclude it is stable enough for the stable branch series, if any patches are needed and supplied, they can be nominated for 6.8.x. - If approved, or there are comments in the bug from people indicating it is likely to be approved, we will consider adding it to Fedora Core. If people act fast, there is enough time in theory for this to all happen in time for FC4. My gut instinct tells me that people don't tend to be that motivated to get things of this nature rolling fast enough however, but even if it doesn't make it into FC4 stock, if something stable is available at a future point, it could certainly hit an FC4 update release. HTH From jakub at redhat.com Thu May 19 12:13:05 2005 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:13:05 -0400 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116499310.6027.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> Message-ID: <20050519121305.GP4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 06:33:25AM -0500, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:41:50 +0200 > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 12:38 +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:21:16AM -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > > > > One of those applications is "kde"! > > > > odd.. we compile KDE all the time with gcc4 > > Hello, Everyone > Since I frequent the kde-devel and kde-user lists, in addition to > compiling, on a very regular basis, KDE from CVS (now SVN) HEAD on > Fedora Core 3, I do know a LITTLE about this issue. > Below is a link to the CVS commit where KDE's blacklisting of GCC4 > seems to have started: > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cvs&m=111451142117674&w=2 > > In a nutshell, the reasoning is this: > > CVS commit by mueller: > > > > blacklist gcc 4.0.0. Its the first compiler we have to blacklist > > because it miscompiles KDE. Except that this bug is not present in FC4 gcc for a long time, nor on gcc-4_0-branch. See Red Hat bugzilla #154294 or upstream PR regression/20973. There was an unfortunate bug that was introduced by a very late fix soon before GCC 4.0 was released and fixed soon after it was released, so yes, vanilla GCC 4.0 miscompiles on some arches some version of KDE (but AFAIK current KDE applied patches to work around it (and at the same time improve code generation with GCC), see http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdelibs/khtml/misc/khtmllayout.h?rev=405260&r1=259956&r2=405260&diff_format=u ), but FC4's GCC is ok. Jakub From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 19 12:14:14 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:14:14 -0400 Subject: extras rawhide report In-Reply-To: <428C3C5C.3010202@gmx.de> References: <428C3C5C.3010202@gmx.de> Message-ID: <604aa7910505190514440e71c0@mail.gmail.com> On 5/19/05, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > hi, > > it seems that 'extras-rawhide' is not build in a regular daily manner > like 'rawhide'. > > is it possible to send "extras rawhide reports" to this list or are > these changes included in the "rawhide-reports" ? rawhide has been in operation since the dawn of time.. the extras build system process is going through its first few months of operation. Perhaps you should calibrate your expectation accordingly. This is also the first release cycle which saw the rawhide build report being sent to -test-list. How about we give the extras build process some time to bake before we open up the reports to a wider audience. At the very least, waiting a full release cycle would seem appropriate to me. -jef From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Thu May 19 12:22:17 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:22:17 -0400 Subject: rpmbuild rejects "Copyright:" in .spec In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428C84F9.5050301@www.linux.org.uk> D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > Apparently the "Copyright" tag has been removed from the rpm spec > language. It has been replaced with "License". One result is: > > $ rpmbuild -ta jove4.16.0.65.tgz > error: Legacy syntax is unsupported: copyright > error: line 35: Unknown tag: Copyright: Copyright (C) 1986-2002 by Jonathan Payne, freely redistributable > > This is the first I've heard that this tag was deprecated. Surely it > would be better to issue a warning for a release cycle before > completely rejecting it. This is unlikely to take more code since > "Copyright" is still being recognized enough to note that it is > "Legacy syntax". The "Copyright" tag has been deprecated for about 5 years. It was poorly named initially and should have been named "License" from the very start. rpm added "License" as a tag to fix this problem, and made "Copyright" an alias for compatibility. 5 or so years of compatibility is quite a long time. Think about it... Does this sound correct: Copyright: Mike A Harris License: GPL Or does this sound correct: Copyright: GPL The latter is claiming that the GPL (whatever that is in this context) is the copyright owner. That doesn't make any sense. If we assume "GPL" means "GNU General Public License" for this example, what the above line is saying is that the actual GPL license text is the copyright owner. The GPL document is a license contract. The owner of the code is the copyright owner, not the license, so the ancient rpm usage of "Copyright: " is semantically incorrect, and may have legal consequences as well. Nonetheless, rpm kept this compatibility around for a very very long time. Thankfully it has finally removed it, and any remaining broken rpms out there can and will be fixed finally. ;o) > Apparently this is not a new complaint. But FC4 is the first place > I've bumped into the problem. > http://www.redhat.com/archives/rpm-list/2005-February/msg00049.html > > What makes this more annoying for me is that Jove is my normal text > editor so it is what I would normally use to fix this kind of problem. > I don't have it on my new machine to fix itself. > > The Jove distribution attempts to support old systems, including those > before "License" was introduced. That support will have to be > dropped, at least as far as RPM is concerned. (Jove supports UNIX > distributions as far back as 7th Edition -- that's how much we care > about support for old systems.) "License:" has been around at least since Red Hat Linux 6.2, if not way way earlier than that. There is no reason to not use the proper tag nowadays. If someone wants to keep compatibility for rpm versions that are that old to not have the "License" tag (which I think is pretty rediculous), they can simply do: %define ancient_OS 1 %if %{ancient_OS} Copyright: foo %else License: foo %endif Another mechanism that can be used, is to make the specfile a template instead, and preprocess it with autotools, m4, cpp, perl, or something else, to plop in the right tag depending on which version of rpm is being used. The number of rpms out there that this affects in this nature is likely to be incredibly low. From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Thu May 19 12:51:07 2005 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Nifty Hat Mitch) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 05:51:07 -0700 Subject: New kernel x86_64 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 ide=nodma regression In-Reply-To: <20050519061625.GA28182@redhat.com> References: <20050519060738.GD3655@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <20050519061625.GA28182@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050519125107.GA6053@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 02:16:25AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 11:07:38PM -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: > > > > The new kernel... 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 x86_64 > > requires ide=nodma when the previous > > kernel-2.6.11-1.1312_FC4 did not. > > > > Without ide=nodma this system panics and does not boot. > > > > I am sure the LanParty MB chipset info matters, > > so here is too much info... > > please file in bugzilla, along with the text from the panic. I do not have a console that can capture the text from the problem system at this time. The interesting stuff has scrolled past. So I have no more information than I have already posted. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new place to hang my hat :-) From Fred.New at microlink.ee Thu May 19 13:23:46 2005 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:23:46 +0300 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4"widescreen display needed. Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EC31@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 19. mai 2005. a. 14:50, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > In the case of the .INF files for monitors, instead, you can download > the hwdata src.rpm, install it, and run inf2mondb.py on the file, and > paste the results into bugzilla, as this is what we do with > the things. > I was curious about what inf2mondb.py would tell me about the monitor.inf file that Gene mentioned yesterday and after a little hacking of inf2mondb.py, I came up with a few lines (mostly Compaq and Daewoo) missing from MonitorsDB. But since I don't have any of these monitors, I am wondering if you want me to put them in Bugzilla? The Dell Web site has a 2405FPW driver for a 1920x1200 display from which inf2mondb.py gives the following lines: Dell Inc.; Dell 2405FPW (Analog); DELA00F; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0 Dell Inc.; Dell 2405FPW (Digital); DELA010; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0 But I don't have this monitor, either. Fred From pjones at redhat.com Thu May 19 14:38:50 2005 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:38:50 -0400 Subject: Kernel panic after update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116513531.17316.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 19:58 -0400, James Morris wrote: > On Wed, 18 May 2005 ejlmd at optonline.net wrote: > > > I've been running fedora rawhide for about a year. > > For the past 2 weeks or so, when the kernel updates and then installs automatically through 'yum update', the new kernel consistently fails to boot (kernel panic). > > My root partition is hda1. After the yum update, when I review grub.conf, I find, for example, > > 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 ro root=/dev/hda1 > > /dev/hdb2' > > rather than '....root=/dev/hda1'. Even if I delete the extra '/dev/hdb2', I still get kernel panic on reboot. > > The last kernel to successfully install and boot for me was 2.6.11-1.1240_FC4. > > I think this may be a mkinitrd problem, which is fixed by > mkinitrd-4.2.15-1 (doesn't look to be available externally yet, but > should be soon, I imagine). http://people.redhat.com/pjones/mkinitrd/ Should also be in this morning's rawhide, I think, but I haven't checked yet. -- Peter From akonstam at trinity.edu Thu May 19 14:53:29 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:53:29 -0500 Subject: Malfunction in passwd checking. Message-ID: <20050519145329.GA12170@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> I just files a bugzilla on this, but I wonder if others have observed this behavior. I would assume that I was late and someone else noticed this. In FC4test3 the passwd program returns Bad passwd messages at inappropriate times. For example: the passwd: lkd45j returns: Bad passwd: it is too simple. What is too simple about that passwd? the passwd: fgk08p returns: Bad passwd: passwd based on (reversed) dictionary word. Now you puzzle players out there. What word is fgk08p based on? I know it is the fgk that is doing it but I don't know why. This is very annoying. -- ======================================================================= Basic is a high level languish. APL is a high level anguish. ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From mal42north at yahoo.com Thu May 19 14:42:10 2005 From: mal42north at yahoo.com (malcolm northcott) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:42:10 -0700 Subject: ipw2200 and network manager In-Reply-To: <1116483326.3483.50.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116351608.11949.12.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1116480388.5857.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116483326.3483.50.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1116513730.5791.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Ok, I read the firmware license myself looks like a typical legal team CYB effort. So that begs the question: Is there any way for the network setup tool to give a the user some more useful clue as to what is wrong. The network tool seems like the right place for this, since that is where most users will first encounter the issue. It seems like this sort of issue will probably become more common as the division between software and hardware continues to blur. Is there a more general mechanism for informing users that they have to agree company XXXX's license before they can use the hardware from XXXX? Mal. PS. I apparently skirted past this issue on FC3 because I started using the ipw2200 driver before the modules were included in the FC3 kernel. > fromOn Thu, 2005-05-19 at 16:15 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 22:26 -0700, malcolm northcott wrote: > > Following Dan's lead I noticed that there was no firmware.... probably > > not good. I downloaded the latest ipw2200 driver and firmware from > > ipw2200.sourceforge.net (1.0.4). After installation everything worked > > fine. > > Presumably the ipw2100 is also missing firmware. > > Is the missing firmware an oversight or is it due to an IP issue with > > binary firmware? > > It's due to the license of the firmware (and the interpretation of that > license, which seems a little vague and unclear). Sadly Intel don't > seem that responsive to addressing the issue. > > It's been discussed here, in fedora-devel and on the redhat-legal (???) > list so search for discussion there (before it blows up into a thousand > threads again). > > > R. > -- > "It's a fine line between denial and faith. > It's much better on my side" > From buildsys at redhat.com Thu May 19 15:36:04 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:36:04 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050519 changes Message-ID: <200505191536.j4JFa4wR025454@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: alsa-lib-1.0.9rc2-5 ------------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Martin Stransky 1.0.9rc2-5 - fix for #130593 - new ainit (dmix/dsnoop is default only for cards which really need it) - fix dsnoop - add fix for mixer (from https://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=58918) audit-0.8.1-1 ------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Steve Grubb 0.8.1-1 - Fix code to "or" uid & gid checks for ausearch -ua & -ga - Change msg() to audit_msg() to avoid conflicts - Parse socket messages for hostname in ausearch * Thu May 12 2005 Steve Grubb 0.8-1 - ausearch fix bugs related to -f & -x - Parse messages using new types - Properly unescape filenames - Update interface for sending userspace messages to use more types beecrypt-4.1.2-8 ---------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 4.1.2-8 - Remove dependencies on private symbols not present in Python 2.4 from beecrypt-python * Tue May 17 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 4.1.2-7 - Doh, actually apply the patch * Tue May 17 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 4.1.2-6 - Fix b64encode() for data starting with NUL (#123650) bind-24:9.3.1-4 --------------- * Sat Apr 16 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 24:9.2.1-4 - Fix bug 157601: give named.init a configtest function - Fix bug 156797: named.init should check SELinux booleans.local before booleans - Fix bug 154335: if no controls in named.conf, stop named with -TERM sig, not rndc - Fix bug 155848: add NOTES section to named.8 man-page with info on all Red Hat BIND quirks and SELinux DDNS / slave zone file configuration - D-BUS patches NOT applied until dhcdbd is in FC * Fri Apr 15 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 24:9.3.1-4_dbus - Enhancement to allow dynamic forwarder table management and - DHCP forwarder auto-configuration with D-BUS cman-1.0-0.pre33.15 ------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Chris Feist - Require cman-kernel-modules. * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. * Mon Dec 20 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. cman-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.3 ------------------------------------------ * Wed May 18 2005 Chris Feist - Fixed xen building with ARCH=xen & providing cman-kernel-modules. device-mapper-1.01.02-1.0 ------------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Alasdair Kergon - 1.01.02-1.0 - Add --exec and --target to dmsetup for initrd convenience. - Automatically call dm_lib_exit when exiting. * Tue Mar 29 2005 Alasdair Kergon - 1.01.01-1.0 - Update dmsetup man page. - Replicate devmap_name output with dmsetup info -c --noheadings -o name. * Fri Mar 04 2005 Alasdair Kergon - 1.01.00-1.1 - Rebuild requested for gcc update. dlm-1.0-0.pre21.10 ------------------ * Tue May 17 2005 Chris Feist - Requires dlm-kernel-modules. * Sun May 08 2005 Florian La Roche - fix -devel requires * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleaned up .spec file. dlm-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.2 ----------------------------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Chris Feist - Provide dlm-kernel-modules & ARCH=xen on xen makes. eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M6.19 -------------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Andrew Overholt 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.19 - Add Epoch on eclipse-platform. - Use %{_bindir} in post and postun scripts. emacs-21.4-5 ------------ * Wed May 18 2005 Jens Petersen - 21.4-5 - update cc-mode to 5.30.9 stable release to address font-lock problems (126165,148977,150197,155292,158044) * Mon May 16 2005 Jens Petersen - 21.4-4 - don't accidently exclude emacsclient from common package (Jonathan Kamens, #157808) - traditional Chinese desktop file translation (Wei-Lun Chao, #157287) * Wed Apr 20 2005 Jens Petersen - 21.4-3 - add igrep.el and init file evolution-connector-2.2.2-5 --------------------------- * Wed May 18 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-5 - add Aaron Gaudio's patch to fix PDA syncronization (#139393) * Tue May 17 2005 David Malcolm - 2.2.2-4 - Install the debug utilities from the "lib" subdirectory; renumber patches accordingly; regenerate the generated patch evolution-data-server-1.2.2-3 ----------------------------- * Wed May 18 2005 David Malcolm - 1.2.2-3 - bumped libsoup requirement to 2.2.3; removed mozilla_build_version, using pkg-config instead for locating NSPRS and NSS headers/libraries (#158085) gail-1.8.3-2 ------------ * Wed May 18 2005 Matthias Clasen 1.8.3-2 - Fix the tamil translations gnbd-1.0-0.pre14.6 ------------------ * Tue May 17 2005 Chris Feist - Require cman-kernel-modules. * Fri May 06 2005 Chris Feist - Cleanup .spec file, don't glob /usr/share/man. * Mon Dec 20 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.25 ------------------------------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Chris Feist - Provides gnbd-kernel-modules & added ARCH=xen to build. gnome-libs-1:1.4.1.2.90-46 -------------------------- * Thu May 12 2005 Ray Strode - 1:1.4.1.2.90-46 - add UTF-8 encoded ta.po (bug #135349) - make compile gnome-media-2.10.2-2 -------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 2.10.2-2 - remove gnome-sound-recorder because it hasn't worked for some time gnome-utils-1:2.10.0-3 ---------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Ray Strode 1:2.10.0-3 - call more autofoo to allow recompilation on x86_64 (bug 150627) gnu-crypto-0:2.0.1-1jpp_4fc --------------------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:2.0.1-1jpp_4fc - Require jpackage-utils for post and postun. - Run rebuild-security-providers with full path. httpd-2.0.54-9 -------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Joe Orton 2.0.54-9 - add piped logger fixes (w/Jeff Trawick) hwbrowser-0.21-1 ---------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Nils Philippsen 0.21 - use True, False instead of gtk.TRUE, gtk.FALSE - set window manager icon (#155866) java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-0:1.4.2.0-11jpp ------------------------------------- * Thu Oct 07 2004 Gary Benson 0:1.4.2.0-11jpp - Don't override $CLASSPATH when we add ecj.jar in javac. * Wed Oct 06 2004 Thomas Fitzsimmons 0:1.4.2.0-10jpp - Bump gcc version. (Fix #133898) * Fri Oct 01 2004 Thomas Fitzsimmons 0:1.4.2.0-9jpp - Change /usr/lib/jvm directory to java-1.4.2-gcj from java-1.4.2-gcj-compat. java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_22rh ------------------------------------------ * Wed May 18 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_22rh - Move gcc-java requirement from base to -devel. * Wed May 18 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_21rh - Comment out bouncy castle stuff. * Tue May 17 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_20rh - Require jpackage-utils for post and postun. - Run rebuild-security-providers with full path. kernel-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 ------------------------ * Wed May 18 2005 Dave Jones - Fix up some warnings in the IDE patches. - 2.6.12-rc4-git2 * Tue May 17 2005 Dave Jones - 2.6.12-rc4-git1 ARM, ioctl security fixes, mmc driver update, ibm_emac & tulip netdriver fixes, serial updates ELF loader security fix. kudzu-1.1.116.2-1 ----------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.1.116.2-1 - tweak synaptics detection for ALPS (#158062, ) mkinitrd-4.2.15-1 ----------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Peter Jones - 4.2.15-1 - Better init argument handling (don't mess up with serial console) perl-3:5.8.6-15 --------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Warren Togami - 3:5.8.6-15 - remove unused /tmp/MANIFEST.all (#151801) * Tue May 17 2005 Warren Togami - 3:5.8.6-14 - CGI.pm 3.10 fixes mod_perl problems (#158036) * Sun May 15 2005 Warren Togami - 3:5.8.6-13 - Better patch for FindBin.pm (#127023#c37) qt-1:3.3.4-14 ------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Than Ngo 1:3.3.4-14 - apply patch to use ecvt, fcvt (thanks to Jakub) - fix a bug in printing of postscript #156977 * Wed May 18 2005 Than Ngo 1:3.3.4-13 - rebuild rsync-2.6.4-3 ------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Jay Fenlason 2.6.4-3 - Include the -address patch from upstream, to close bz#154752 Unable to use --address in client mode spamassassin-3.0.3-4.fc4 ------------------------ * Tue May 17 2005 Warren Togami - 3.0.3-4 - allow user-level disabling of subject rewriting pref (#147464) system-config-securitylevel-1.5.8-1 ----------------------------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Chris Lumens 1.5.8-1 - Revert .desktop file changes since they weren't properly marked for translation. system-config-soundcard-1.2.11-3 -------------------------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Martin Stransky 1.2.11-3 - fixed #158064 totem-1.0.2-1 ------------- * Tue May 17 2005 John (J5) Palmieri - 1.0.2-1 - Update to upstream version 1.0.2 to fix minor bugs - Register the thumbnail and handlers schemas From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu May 19 15:40:02 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:40:02 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test Update: evolution-2.0.4-5 Message-ID: <200505191540.j4JFe2gp025826@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2005-381 2005-05-19 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 3 Name : evolution Version : 2.0.4 Release : 5 Summary : GNOME's next-generation groupware suite Description : Evolution is the GNOME mailer, calendar, contact manager and communications tool. The tools which make up Evolution will be tightly integrated with one another and act as a seamless personal information-management tool. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed May 18 2005 David Malcolm - 2.0.4-5 - Backport fix to use gnome-vfs API to launch external applications (#157767) - Removed explicit mozilla_build_version; instead use pkg-config to determine the path to the NSS/NSPR headers. --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/ 8c0001662da5d2f75c33833fa3b1b285 SRPMS/evolution-2.0.4-5.src.rpm ab5f1ca613f14b726e4539b0faeb3e19 x86_64/evolution-2.0.4-5.x86_64.rpm e49dbd7444ecfed2028deb46b709f8f6 x86_64/evolution-devel-2.0.4-5.x86_64.rpm 7ee9aed37cbb63a0c5820e95f22d7d8e x86_64/debug/evolution-debuginfo-2.0.4-5.x86_64.rpm 1d0103887713013b492059f03589a857 i386/evolution-2.0.4-5.i386.rpm a17a4ad5154d11b5bc1ceeef017e945e i386/evolution-devel-2.0.4-5.i386.rpm 4be51cec9cf8778d42f3878fc1710326 i386/debug/evolution-debuginfo-2.0.4-5.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/$ARCH --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dcbw at redhat.com Thu May 19 16:06:26 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:06:26 -0400 Subject: ipw2200 and network manager In-Reply-To: <1116513730.5791.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116351608.11949.12.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1116480388.5857.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116483326.3483.50.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116513730.5791.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116518786.20671.6.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 07:42 -0700, malcolm northcott wrote: > Ok, I read the firmware license myself looks like a typical legal team > CYB effort. So that begs the question: Is there any way for the network > setup tool to give a the user some more useful clue as to what is wrong. > The network tool seems like the right place for this, since that is > where most users will first encounter the issue. > It seems like this sort of issue will probably become more common as the > division between software and hardware continues to blur. Is there a > more general mechanism for informing users that they have to agree > company XXXX's license before they can use the hardware from XXXX? > Mal. > > PS. I apparently skirted past this issue on FC3 because I started using > the ipw2200 driver before the modules were included in the FC3 kernel. > This is really a kernel-side issue, specifically in drivers. Drivers currently call request_firmware() and get an error when the firmware is not found. Most drivers these days simply print a message to the console/syslog and give up. Were there a way to notify user-space that there was missing firmware, then we could intelligently inform the user about this issue. David Zeuthen (of HAL fame) knows about this issue and he and I have discussed it before. Its something people are thinking about and planning for, but its probably a 2.6.13 thing at the earliest. At the moment, there's really not much you can do other than screenscraping the logs and string matching driver messages. Dan From kaboom at oobleck.net Thu May 19 16:19:35 2005 From: kaboom at oobleck.net (Chris Ricker) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ipw2200 and network manager In-Reply-To: <1116518786.20671.6.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <42834E40.4030007@t-online.de> <1116342986.5883.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116351608.11949.12.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> <1116480388.5857.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116483326.3483.50.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116513730.5791.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116518786.20671.6.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 19 May 2005, Dan Williams wrote: > This is really a kernel-side issue, specifically in drivers. Drivers > currently call request_firmware() and get an error when the firmware is > not found. Most drivers these days simply print a message to the > console/syslog and give up. Were there a way to notify user-space that > there was missing firmware, then we could intelligently inform the user > about this issue. David Zeuthen (of HAL fame) knows about this issue > and he and I have discussed it before. Its something people are > thinking about and planning for, but its probably a 2.6.13 thing at the > earliest. > > At the moment, there's really not much you can do other than > screenscraping the logs and string matching driver messages. Can links to the IPW2100 / IPW2200 firmware be put in the Release Notes? later, chris From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu May 19 16:48:41 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:48:41 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20050519 changes In-Reply-To: <200505191536.j4JFa4wR025454@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505191536.j4JFa4wR025454@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 5/19/05, Build System wrote: > > > > Updated Packages: > eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M6.19 > -------------------------- > * Tue May 17 2005 Andrew Overholt 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.19 > - Add Epoch on eclipse-platform. > - Use %{_bindir} in post and postun scripts. > > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Just curious of the M7 will be released/rebuilt before FC4 is out? From paolini at dmf.unicatt.it Thu May 19 16:49:28 2005 From: paolini at dmf.unicatt.it (Maurizio Paolini) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 18:49:28 +0200 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20050519121305.GP4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116499310.6027.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> <20050519121305.GP4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050519164928.GA24474@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 08:13:05AM -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > Except that this bug is not present in FC4 gcc for a long time, nor > on gcc-4_0-branch. See Red Hat bugzilla #154294 or upstream > PR regression/20973. There was an unfortunate bug that was introduced > by a very late fix soon before GCC 4.0 was released and fixed soon > after it was released, so yes, vanilla GCC 4.0 miscompiles on some arches > some version of KDE (but AFAIK current KDE applied patches to work > around it (and at the same time improve code generation with GCC), > see http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdelibs/khtml/misc/khtmllayout.h?rev=405260&r1=259956&r2=405260&diff_format=u > ), but FC4's GCC is ok. > > Jakub so, let me ask a perhaps very stupid question: is kde as included in FC4 compiled with gcc4 or the compat-gcc32 ? On a more general basis, is there an easy way to determine the compiler version looking into an executable (using "strings" or whatever)? Maurizio From jakub at redhat.com Thu May 19 16:53:09 2005 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:53:09 -0400 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20050519164928.GA24474@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116499310.6027.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> <20050519121305.GP4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519164928.GA24474@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> Message-ID: <20050519165309.GV4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 06:49:28PM +0200, Maurizio Paolini wrote: > so, let me ask a perhaps very stupid question: is kde as included in > FC4 compiled with gcc4 or the compat-gcc32 ? gcc4, as is the rest of the distribution (at least I am not aware of any exceptions ATM, OOo used to be compiled by GCC 3.3/3.2 before, but I think it uses GCC 4 now as well). > On a more general basis, is there an easy way to determine the compiler > version looking into an executable (using "strings" or whatever)? If .comment section is not stripped off, you can look at that. Jakub From dcbw at redhat.com Thu May 19 17:56:31 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:56:31 -0400 Subject: GCC 4.xx FC4 rc3 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20050519165309.GV4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <428C428F.1030307@pharm.uoa.gr> <20050519082116.GO4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519103812.GE30950@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <1116499310.6027.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20050519063325.7699cf97@afolkey2.net> <20050519121305.GP4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050519164928.GA24474@pascalp.dmf.bs.unicatt.it> <20050519165309.GV4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116525391.20671.25.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 12:53 -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > any exceptions ATM, OOo used to be compiled by GCC 3.3/3.2 before, but > I think it uses GCC 4 now as well). Correct, gcc4 since we pushed OOo 2.0 into the distribution. Only 1.1.4 and lower have issues with gcc 4. Dan From dad at datix.2y.net Thu May 19 20:18:21 2005 From: dad at datix.2y.net (David A. De Graaf) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:18:21 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test Update: kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 In-Reply-To: <200505190457.j4J4vvOW014434@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505190457.j4J4vvOW014434@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050519201821.GA14001@datium.datix.lan> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 12:57:57AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fedora Test Update Notification > FEDORA-2005-379 > 2005-05-17 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Product : Fedora Core 3 > Name : kernel > Version : 2.6.11 > Release : 1.27_FC3 > Summary : The Linux kernel (the core of the Linux operating system) > Description : > The kernel package contains the Linux kernel (vmlinuz), the core of any > Linux operating system. The kernel handles the basic functions > of the operating system: memory allocation, process allocation, device > input and output, etc. > > Due to the collection of security fixes piling up, this is going > to go out as an update in the next few days unless someone finds > something catastrophically wrong with it. It certainly would be wonderful if the NFS fix provided by Henrik Grubbstrom (grubba at grubba.org) for Bugzilla #14456 and #150759 were included. This simple patch to linux/fs/ext3/namei.c corrects an insidious bug that makes NFS randomly useless. Maybe it has been included already. Has it? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > * Tue May 17 2005 Dave Jones > - Remove the unused (and outdated) Xen patches from the FC3 tree. > > * Mon May 16 2005 Dave Jones > - Rebase to 2.6.11.10, (fixing CAN-2005-1264) > > * Thu May 12 2005 Dave Jones > - Rebase to 2.6.11.9, (fixing CAN-2005-1263) > > * Tue May 10 2005 Dave Jones > - Fix two bugs in x86-64 page fault handler. > > * Mon May 9 2005 Dave Jones > - Rebase to 2.6.11.8 > | Fixes CAN-2005-1368 (local DoS in key lookup). (#156680) > | Fixes CAN-2005-1369 (i2c alarms sysfs DoS). (#156683) > - Merge IDE fixes from 2.6.11-ac7 > - Add Conflicts for older IPW firmwares. > - Fix conntrack leak with raw sockets. > > * Sun May 1 2005 Dave Jones > - Various firewire fixes backported from -mm. (#133798) > (Thanks to Jody McIntyre for doing this) > > * Fri Apr 29 2005 Dave Jones > - fix oops in aacraid open when using adaptec tools. (#148761) > - Blacklist another brainless SCSI scanner. (#155457) > > * Thu Apr 21 2005 Dave Jones > - Fix up SCSI queue locking. (#155472) > > * Tue Apr 19 2005 Dave Jones > - SCSI tape security: require CAP_ADMIN for SG_IO etc. (#155355) > > * Mon Apr 18 2005 Dave Jones > - Retry more aggressively during USB device initialization > > * Thu Apr 14 2005 Dave Jones > - Build DRM modular. (#154769) > > * Fri Apr 8 2005 Dave Jones > - Disable Longhaul driver (again). > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > This update can be downloaded from: > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/ > > e14dcd5e8c520e6afe51b4d6f8317ebb SRPMS/kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.src.rpm > 2b654539762a42e2a761ec65b5bc1c30 x86_64/kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.x86_64.rpm > f34938e71d5b7e43247fe11d85bf3e67 x86_64/kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.x86_64.rpm > 0620f2eaa09eebafdc56e06f07f3c697 x86_64/debug/kernel-debuginfo-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.x86_64.rpm > a95d2fa3a36398a6a7247ef2e48070d0 x86_64/kernel-doc-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.noarch.rpm > 3a204dfa66c6e81d53c4668d8fa4c501 i386/kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i586.rpm > a40fdcc57195f0607a39a6ff9988c980 i386/kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i586.rpm > 0a4d7db03690e0ed7c165dc6c4f11c99 i386/debug/kernel-debuginfo-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i586.rpm > 2f4a0c52eac96d13f0b31ec759693ac8 i386/kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i686.rpm > 0fc7abe2226243524c656cae43367d67 i386/kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i686.rpm > 8d3ef1f8020d3ede403c747c24e8d8e0 i386/debug/kernel-debuginfo-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.i686.rpm > a95d2fa3a36398a6a7247ef2e48070d0 i386/kernel-doc-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.noarch.rpm > > This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can > launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may > need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within > /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: > yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/$ARCH > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- David A. De Graaf DATIX, Inc. Hendersonville, NC dad at datix.2y.net www.datix.us From trial at dresco.co.uk Thu May 19 20:43:53 2005 From: trial at dresco.co.uk (Jon Escombe) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Sonoma Centrino M70 (Dell Latitude D810, C810) References: <428AC3BD.3000409@sonic.net> Message-ID: Raymond Lillard sonic.net> writes: > > > I have a D810 running a fully updated FC3. All is well > except that the CD/DVD drive will not run with DMA. > > I haven't had the opportunity try FC4-test yet, but hope > this problem has been delt with. Can anybody speak to > the status of support for this h/w WRT DMA? > > Thanks, > Ray > Ray, I have a similar Sonoma laptop (Thinkpad T43) running FC4-test. DVD writer is still using PIO, and S3 suspend doesn't resume correctly with the SATA drive (a proposed patch for this was recently posted on fa.linux.kernel) Regards, Jon. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 19 21:25:29 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:25:29 +0100 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide Message-ID: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> Hi, I know it's a bad mix(TM) but I do run rawhide here (updated daily), but do need to use the nVidia 3D acceleration. Daft as it sounds, I've always had my machines running on rawhide, but due to doing some dev work, I need OpenGL. What is the best way for me to do this? I know I will need to recompile whenever I change kernel, but is there a way that I can use the livna python script to ensure I use the correct xorg.conf file and recompile against the new kernel modules using the either the livna src rpms or the nVidia builder while still using a different kernel? TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu May 19 21:39:28 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:39:28 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1116538768.16297.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> > What is the best way for me to do this? I know I will need to recompile > whenever I change kernel, but is there a way that I can use the livna > python script to ensure I use the correct xorg.conf file and recompile > against the new kernel modules using the either the livna src rpms or > the nVidia builder while still using a different kernel? rpmbuild --rebuild the livna src rpm for every new kernel. That's the best (and probably only correct) way to get this to work. Stay away from the Nvidia installer - it's evil... -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 19 21:43:57 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:43:57 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> On 5/19/05, Paul wrote: > What is the best way for me to do this? I know I will need to recompile > whenever I change kernel, but is there a way that I can use the livna > python script to ensure I use the correct xorg.conf file and recompile > against the new kernel modules using the either the livna src rpms or > the nVidia builder while still using a different kernel? 0) do not mix the livna rpms with nvidia's installer 1) its very easy to use livna's srpm to rebuild a new kernel module 2) do not mix the livna rpms with nvidia's installer 3) example using nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.src.rpm from livna assuming kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 and kernel-smp-devel-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 are installed on an smp athlon: rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 --define "kernel 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4smp" nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.src.rpm (that should be one line but of course email is going to line wrap that) 4) do not mix the livna rpms with nvidia's installer 5) that rebuild command will create nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.i686.rpm kernel-module-nvidia-2.6.11-1.1315_FC4smp-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.i686.rpm nvidia-glx-devel-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.i686.rpm 6) do not mix the livna rpms with nvidia's installer 7) all you need to do is install the new kernel-module-nvidia package that was built rpm -ivh kernel-module-nvidia-2.6.11-1.1315_FC4smp-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.i686.rpm 8) repeat as needed when a new kernel and kernel-devel package is installed before you reboot into the new kernel. Appendix A) Always avoid rebuilding packages as root. I STRONGLY suggest you create a rpmbuild directory structure in a normal user's home directory, and use that normal user as the build user for any rpm building that you do. For example on my system my rpmbuild directory tree looks like: tree -d /home/builduser/rpmbuild/ |-- BUILD |-- RPMS | |-- athlon | |-- i386 | |-- i686 --> In the above example this is where the built rpms end up on my system | `-- noarch |-- SOURCES |-- SPECS `-- SRPMS -> good place to keep the srpms you want to rebuild like the nvidia-glx srpm And to make use of that rpmbuild dirtree you need an .rpmmacros file in the build user's homedirectory that looks like this: cat /home/builduser/.rpmmacros: %_topdir %(echo $HOME)/rpmbuild additionally you might want this macros in your .rpmmacros file as well %_smp_mflags -j3 %debug_package %{nil} -jef"did i mention you shouldn't mix livna's rpms with nvidia's installer?"spaleta From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu May 19 21:49:36 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:49:36 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116539376.16297.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> > Always avoid rebuilding packages as root. Why is that? And why is it that the nvidia livna srpm will not rebuild in single mode, but will rebuild from X? SElinux is not involved here... -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From chandana at desilva.id.au Thu May 19 22:49:16 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 08:49:16 +1000 Subject: FC4 Test 3.92 Exchange Connector Hangs Message-ID: <1116542957.31259.2.camel@chandana.dis> I have been trying to use the Evolution Exchange Connector in FC4 test 3.92. When I enter the url for the OWA, and click on Authenticate, the system hangs. I have tried Outlook Web Access via Firefox, and it works fine. If some one can tell me how to set up some logging, I can try it and look at the log files to see what is wrong. Chandana From rlillard at sonic.net Thu May 19 22:57:37 2005 From: rlillard at sonic.net (Raymond Lillard) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:57:37 -0700 Subject: Sonoma Centrino M70 (Dell Latitude D810, C610) In-Reply-To: References: <428AC3BD.3000409@sonic.net> Message-ID: <428D19E1.1050400@sonic.net> Jon Escombe wrote: > Raymond Lillard sonic.net> writes: >>I have a D810 running a fully updated FC3. All is well >>except that the CD/DVD drive will not run with DMA. I need to correct myself here. I have fully updated my machine with the latest stuff, but I cannot boot with the latest "kernel-2.6.11-1.14_FC3". The machine hangs about midway into getting all the hardware up and going. I have posted the details elsewhere and they can most likely be found with Google. I alternate between OpenBSD and Linux. When I use linux (FC3 actually) the latest kernel that boots is "kernel-2.6.10-1.770_FC3". This kernel thinks my hard drive is "sda" (it is really PATA, not SATA) and my CD/DVD drive is "hdc" and I cannot enable DMA to the CD/DVD drive. Unfortunately, the Dell BIOS doesn't provide a means to disable the SATA hardware. If it did, this problem might go away. Does your T43 use a PATA or SATA hard drive? If PATA, can you disable the SATA interface in the BIOS? I noticed a new FC3 kernel is about to come out, I hope this problem has been fixed with it. >>I haven't had the opportunity try FC4-test yet, but hope >>this problem has been delt with. Can anybody speak to >>the status of support for this h/w WRT DMA? > I have a similar Sonoma laptop (Thinkpad T43) running FC4-test. > > DVD writer is still using PIO, and S3 suspend doesn't resume correctly with the > SATA drive (a proposed patch for this was recently posted on fa.linux.kernel) I looked for it on Google and found discission of patches but none which seemed to address my specific issue. You didn't happen to save the message or the patch did you? I would really like to use the CD/DVD drive, I can wait for the S3 suspend/resume feature. Thanks, Ray From trial at dresco.co.uk Thu May 19 23:26:34 2005 From: trial at dresco.co.uk (Jon Escombe) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 23:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Sonoma Centrino M70 (Dell Latitude D810, C610) References: <428AC3BD.3000409@sonic.net> <428D19E1.1050400@sonic.net> Message-ID: Raymond Lillard sonic.net> writes: > Does your T43 use a PATA or SATA hard drive? > > If PATA, can you disable the SATA interface in the BIOS? It's a PATA drive, but unfortunately there's no option (that I've found) to disable the SATA interface in the BIOS. > > SATA drive (a proposed patch for this was recently posted on fa.linux.kernel) > > I looked for it on Google and found discission of patches > but none which seemed to address my specific issue. You > didn't happen to save the message or the patch did you? Apologies if I got your hopes up, the patch was for the SATA suspend/resume issue, rather than the DVD drive DMA. It can be found in the following thread -- groups.google.co.uk/group/fa.linux.kernel/browse_frm/thread/2c87315d6ce17273 Regards, Jon. From green at redhat.com Fri May 20 00:00:30 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:00:30 -0700 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116547230.4747.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 17:43 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > 3) example using nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.src.rpm from livna > assuming kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 and kernel-smp-devel-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 > are installed on an smp athlon: > rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 --define "kernel > 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4smp" nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.src.rpm > (that should be one line but of course email is going to line wrap that) It seems that you definitely need to set some stuff up in advance, since, for instance, this looks for kernel sources. I'm still not able to get it all working. I exploded the kernel SRPM with rpmbuild -bp, and then made a symlink from /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.11/linux-2.6.11 to /usr/src/kernels/2.6.11-1.1315_FC4-i686. This makes the livna RPM rebuild get further, but it still fails with a message asking me to make sure I'm running the right kernel version (matching the sources, which I think I am), and something about KBUILD_OUTPUT, KBUILD, and SYSOUT. Doesn't anybody else get this? Thanks, AG From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri May 20 00:35:11 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:35:11 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <1116547230.4747.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> <1116547230.4747.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa79105051917356a4b5399@mail.gmail.com> On 5/19/05, Anthony Green wrote: > It seems that you definitely need to set some stuff up in advance, > since, for instance, this looks for kernel sources. I'm still not able > to get it all working. kernel-smp-devel or kernel-devel has the header files needed. You dont need the whole kernel source for the nvidia drivers... no way. Read through the livna spec.. there is magic to determine a default kernel version to look for and it knows where to look for the headers both fc3 vintage as well as fc4/rawhide vintage. And both the 'kernel' variable and the 'ksrc' variable can be defined as arguments. I never have to define ksrc as long as i have the right kernel-devel package installed matching the kernel version i want to compile for. -jef"rpm -ql kernel-devel and be amazed!"spaleta From chrisw01 at privatei.com Fri May 20 01:06:16 2005 From: chrisw01 at privatei.com (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:06:16 -0600 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <1116547230.4747.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> <1116547230.4747.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116551176.3367.7.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 17:00 -0700, Anthony Green wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 17:43 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > 3) example using nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.src.rpm from livna > > assuming kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 and kernel-smp-devel-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 > > are installed on an smp athlon: > > rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 --define "kernel > > 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4smp" nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.src.rpm > > (that should be one line but of course email is going to line wrap that) > > It seems that you definitely need to set some stuff up in advance, > since, for instance, this looks for kernel sources. I'm still not able > to get it all working. > > I exploded the kernel SRPM with rpmbuild -bp, and then made a symlink > from /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.11/linux-2.6.11 > to /usr/src/kernels/2.6.11-1.1315_FC4-i686. > > This makes the livna RPM rebuild get further, but it still fails with a > message asking me to make sure I'm running the right kernel version > (matching the sources, which I think I am), and something about > KBUILD_OUTPUT, KBUILD, and SYSOUT. > > Doesn't anybody else get this? In addition to what Jeff mentioned, I needed the following installed (available from the yum repositories): kernel-devel fedora-rpmdevtools I found that I was also able to build the source rpm in runlevel 3. So, for me, I first update the kernel, then I reboot to run level 3. Then I use the following command to rebuild the source rpm: rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-0.lvn.1.3.src.rpm Note that this particular command builds an i686 architecture rpm set based on the kernel you are running at the time. Then, the *very first time* installed, I needed to install both kernel-module-nvidia and nvidia-glx. After that, only kernel-module-nvidia needs to be updated when you update the kernel. Mine is working like a champ. Hope that helps! Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom From cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com Fri May 20 02:28:12 2005 From: cyberhawkusa at hotmail.com (Caleb Warta) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 02:28:12 +0000 Subject: yum aftermath Message-ID: ok well yum did not have any updates to fix my artsd run away issue that i still really really need help with but it did undo my nVidia drivers my mplayer install and my xmms install with mp3 player support ok i am not to good at installing none rpm stuff for the most part i dont care to mess with it but there are a few things like americas army and planeshfit that i took the time to learn how to install but now after running yum i can listen to music play movies or 3d games well i can now i have to install the nvidia drivers the hard way already so i fixed that no problem but how can i remove rpm installed stuff so that i can reinstall the versions i downloaded before running yum and ow can i keep yum from overwrinting "nvidia drivers"xmms" and "mplayer" someone please help _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From dave at davenjudy.org Fri May 20 03:57:34 2005 From: dave at davenjudy.org (David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud)) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:57:34 -0600 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues Message-ID: <428D602E.8020804@davenjudy.org> Unfortunately, I'm headed out of town on Friday so this is a "seagull comment" (fly in, crap all over the place, then leave) but I just managed to get my Synaptics Touchpad working on an HP Pavilion zv6015 with test 3 x86_64. The *really dumb* trick turned out to be to recompile the kernel with psmouse as a module. Doing a simple "modprobe -r psmouse" followed by a "modprobe psmouse" is sufficient to find the Synaptics touchpad. It then appears to work in both text (gpm) and X-windows. Now if somebody has any advice as to getting the wireless NIC (Broadcom 4306) working when the radio seems to be stuck in the "off" mode, let me know. I'm using ndiswrappers and the driver appears to load with no problems but I'm pretty sure the radio is "off" and seems to want to remain off despite anything I've tried. If all else fails, next trick is to try installing wine and seeing if I can get the windows controls to let me turn it on. Cheers From kyrre at solution-forge.net Fri May 20 09:35:56 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (kyrre at solution-forge.net) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:35:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: yum aftermath In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42517.213.145.173.222.1116581756.squirrel@62.70.14.38> > ok well yum did not have any updates to fix my artsd run away issue that i > still really really need help with but it did undo my nVidia drivers my > mplayer install and my xmms install with mp3 player support ok i am not to > good at installing none rpm stuff for the most part i dont care to mess > with > it but there are a few things like americas army and planeshfit that i > took > the time to learn how to install but now after running yum i can listen to > music play movies or 3d games well i can now i have to install the nvidia > drivers the hard way already so i fixed that no problem but how can i > remove > rpm installed stuff so that i can reinstall the versions i downloaded > before > running yum and ow can i keep yum from overwrinting "nvidia drivers"xmms" > and "mplayer" > > someone please help It would be great for you if you used periods (.), and sentences - that makes your mail much more readable. Right now, nobody will even bother trying to read it. From buildsys at redhat.com Fri May 20 11:51:35 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 07:51:35 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050520 changes Message-ID: <200505201151.j4KBpZVK028658@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: GFS-kernel-2.6.11.6-20050517.141233.FC4.8 ----------------------------------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Chris Feist - Provides GFS-kernel-modules and add ARCH=xen to build. anaconda-10.2.0.64-1 -------------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Jeremy Katz - 10.2.0.64-1 - Handle longer arch strings (notting) - Fix traceback in network screen (#158134) - Include synaptics for X config (pnasrat) - Magic boot for mac vs mac64 on disc1/dvd (pnasrat) - Bump point at which we use graphical stage2 for http/ftp (#157274) - Use uuid in mdadm.conf, stop using copy of md.h (#136051) - Support deletion of bootloader entries in text mode (#125358) - Support RAID /boot on pSeries along with handling of multiple PReP partitions (Dustin Kirkland) bzip2-1.0.2-16 -------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Jiri Ryska - fixed permission setting for decompressed files #155742 - fixed decompression bomb (DoS) #157548 cman-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.4 ------------------------------------------ devhelp-0.10-1 -------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Ray Strode 0.10.0-1 - Update to 0.10.0 (bug #157753) dlm-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.4 ----------------------------------------- dmraid-1.0.0.rc8-FC4_1 ---------------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Heinz Mauelshagen 1.0.0.rc8-FC4_1 - nv.c: fixed stripe size - sil.c: avoid incarnation_no in name creation, because the Windows driver changes it every time - added --ignorelocking option to avoid taking out locks in early boot where no read/write access to /var is given eclipse-bugzilla-1:0.1.0_fc-16 ------------------------------ * Wed May 18 2005 Jeff Pound 0.1.0_fc-16 - Fix bug in query option parser (see comment 1 from bz#151443). - Parse icons from bugzilla sites (bz#151441). gcc-4.0.0-7 ----------- * Wed May 18 2005 Jakub Jelinek 4.0.0-7 - update from CVS - PRs fortran/20954, libgcj/18220, libgcj/19729, libgcj/21140 - fix IA-64 ICE on sdata/sbss variable references with offsets (Richard Henderson, #158001, PR target/21632) - add gjnih and gjnih.1 to gcc-java subpackage - fix german, spanish, turkish and chinese translations (#157879, PR translation/21364) - configure with --enable-libgcj-multifile to avoid make -jN related multilib failures gdm-1:2.6.0.8-15 ---------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Ray Strode 1:2.6.0.8-15 - Take out some syslog spew (bug 157711). gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.26 ------------------------------------------- gnome-applets-1:2.10.1-8 ------------------------ * Thu May 19 2005 Ray Strode 1:2.10.1-8 - Install modemlights gconf schema (bug 157764). gnome-games-1:2.10.0-4 ---------------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Ray Strode 1:2.10.0-4 - Change some sounds around grub-0.95-13 ------------ * Thu May 19 2005 Peter Jones 0.95-13 - Make the spec work with gcc3 and gcc4, so people can test on existing installations. - don't treat i2o like a cciss device, since its partition names aren't done that way. (#158158) kernel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4 ------------------------ * Thu May 19 2005 Dave Jones - Fix up missing symbols in ipw2200 driver. - Reenable debugfs / usbmon. SELinux seems to cope ok now. (Needs selinux-targeted-policy >= 1.23.16-1) kudzu-1.1.116.2-2 ----------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.1.116.2-2 - rebuild against new libpci logwatch-6.0.1-2 ---------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Jiri Ryska 6.0.1-2 - fixed temp dir creation #155795 ncpfs-2.2.4-8 ------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Jiri Ryska - fixed possible buffer overflow CAN-2005-0014 nfs-utils-1.0.7-7 ----------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Steve Dickson 1.0.7-7 - Fixed buffer overflow in rpc.svcgssd (bz 114288) openssl-0.9.7f-7 ---------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Tomas Mraz 0.9.7f-7 - fix CAN-2005-0109 - use constant time/memory access mod_exp so bits of private key aren't leaked by cache eviction (#157631) - a few more fixes from upstream 0.9.7g pam_krb5-2.1.7-3 ---------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Nalin Dahyabhai - 2.1.7-3 - rebuild * Wed May 18 2005 Nalin Dahyabhai - 2.1.7-2 - rebuild * Wed May 18 2005 Nalin Dahyabhai - 2.1.7-1 - update to 2.1.7 - install afs5log and its man page - fix detection of the realm of foreign cells with newer OpenAFS - also try AFS principal = afs at REALM for foreign cells in foreign realms pciutils-2.1.99.test8-10 ------------------------ * Thu May 19 2005 Bill Nottingham - 2.1.99.test8-10 - allow 64-bit addresses on x86_64 (#158217, ) readahead-1:1.1-1.14 -------------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Bill Nottingham - new readahead.c from Ziga Mahkovec - optimizes read access for more throughput - regenerate file lists (#128444) - fix lack of newlines (#146744) - fix lists so that they are architecture-neutral - move check for > 384MB into the init scripts, not the %post rhpl-0.165-1 ------------ * Thu May 19 2005 Paul Nasrat 0.165-1 - ALPS configuration (#155291) rpm-4.4.1-19 ------------ * Tue May 17 2005 Paul Nasrat - 4.4.1-19 - Check for symlinks in check-files (#108778) - Move zh_CN (#154623) - Test fix for signing old rpms (#127113) selinux-policy-strict-1.23.16-5 ------------------------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.16-5 - Fix slapd and cups for targeted policy * Wed May 18 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.16-4 - Add anaconda back in - Fix for nvidia - Fixes for acpi - Fix several ":file read" -> ":file { getattr read }: selinux-policy-targeted-1.23.16-5 --------------------------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.16-5 - Fix slapd and cups for targeted policy * Wed May 18 2005 Dan Walsh 1.23.16-4 - Add anaconda back in - Fix for nvidia - Fixes for acpi - Fix several ":file read" -> ":file { getattr read }: sysklogd-1.4.1-30 ----------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Jason Vas Dias 1.4.1rh-30 - fix bug 158205: fix MARK message generation Patch contributed by Ray Van Tassle of Motorola * Mon Mar 28 2005 Jason Vas Dias 1.4.1rh-28 - Fix bug 152319: potential ctime() deadlock in domark() when called - from signal handler * Fri Jan 14 2005 Jason Vas Dias 1.4.1rh-26 - Final fixup of '@host' name checking code: remove possible - duplicates properly syslinux-3.08-2 --------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Peter Jones - 3.08-2 - update to 3.08 xfig-3.2.4-11 ------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Than Ngo 3.2.4-11 - apply patch to fix buffer oveeflow #158088 yelp-2.10.0-1 ------------- * Thu May 19 2005 Ray Strode 2.10.0-1 - Update to 2.10.0 (bug 157752, 146862). * Thu May 19 2005 Christopher Aillon 2.9.3-7 - Depend on mozilla 1.7.8 From jamiebohr at gmail.com Fri May 20 12:07:30 2005 From: jamiebohr at gmail.com (Jamie Bohr) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 06:07:30 -0600 Subject: FC4 Test 3.92 Exchange Connector Hangs In-Reply-To: <1116542957.31259.2.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116542957.31259.2.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: It what you are seeing similar to the bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302209? - Jamie On 5/19/05, Chandana De Silva wrote: > > I have been trying to use the Evolution Exchange Connector in FC4 test > 3.92. > > When I enter the url for the OWA, and click on Authenticate, the system > hangs. > > I have tried Outlook Web Access via Firefox, and it works fine. > > If some one can tell me how to set up some logging, I can try it and > look at the log files to see what is wrong. > > Chandana > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Fri May 20 13:31:23 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:31:23 +0200 Subject: OOo 1.9.100-1 bug #155432 (doc becomes 0 bytes after save & crash) Message-ID: <1116595884.10185.13.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Hi, I just had a similar experience as described in #155432. Also had OOo crash right after a save of a document. After the crash the doc suddenly had 0 bytes length while it was 3 pages long before the crash. No harm done as I had a backup but still. Is there a new OOo release in the pipeline which fixes this? The current situation could use some TLC. Hope this will be fixed before FC4 turns gold. Regards, Patrick From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 20 13:34:25 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:34:25 +0100 Subject: OOo 1.9.100-1 bug #155432 (doc becomes 0 bytes after save & crash) In-Reply-To: <1116595884.10185.13.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1116595884.10185.13.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1116596066.3777.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > Is there a new OOo release in the pipeline which fixes this? The current > situation could use some TLC. Hope this will be fixed before FC4 turns > gold. 1.9.104 is up on the OOo website, so I'd imagine that the FC build will follow tomorrow/sunday - there is normally a short lag. TTFN Paul -- "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Life of Brian, Monty Python From lamune at doki-doki.net Fri May 20 13:46:47 2005 From: lamune at doki-doki.net (Mike Pepe) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:46:47 -0400 Subject: yum aftermath In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428DEA47.3020703@doki-doki.net> Caleb, man, you've got to learn to use some periods. Your messages are incomprehensible. Caleb Warta wrote: > ok well yum did not have any updates to fix my artsd run away issue that > i still really really need help with but it did undo my nVidia drivers > my mplayer install and my xmms install with mp3 player support ok i am > not to good at installing none rpm stuff for the most part i dont care > to mess with it but there are a few things like americas army and > planeshfit that i took the time to learn how to install but now after > running yum i can listen to music play movies or 3d games well i can now > i have to install the nvidia drivers the hard way already so i fixed > that no problem but how can i remove rpm installed stuff so that i can > reinstall the versions i downloaded before running yum and ow can i keep > yum from overwrinting "nvidia drivers"xmms" and "mplayer" > > someone please help > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's > FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > From cimmo at libero.it Fri May 20 13:48:09 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:48:09 +0200 Subject: OO,gcc,kernel: which versions? Message-ID: <428DEA99.9080302@libero.it> Just a question about versions: Fedora Core 4 is only 3 weeks on the way, OpenOffice is in beta version will be shipped like this? Kernel is in rc4 will stay this? gcc is 4.0.0 plus some cvs patches, will stay like this? best regards Cimmo From akonstam at trinity.edu Fri May 20 14:25:41 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:25:41 -0500 Subject: Malfunction in passwd checking.- more information. In-Reply-To: <20050519145329.GA12170@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050519145329.GA12170@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <20050520142541.GA4018@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 09:53:29AM -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > I just files a bugzilla on this, but I wonder if others have observed > this behavior. I would assume that I was late and someone else noticed > this. In FC4test3 the passwd program returns Bad passwd messages at > inappropriate times. For example: > the passwd: lkd45j returns: Bad passwd: it is too simple. > What is too simple about that passwd? > the passwd: fgk08p returns: Bad passwd: passwd based on (reversed) > dictionary word. > > Now you puzzle players out there. What word is fgk08p based on? > I know it is the fgk that is doing it but I don't know why. > This is very annoying. > -- > Since no one is responding let me give you information I got from redhat. 6 character passwds are considered too short. If a passwd entered contains 4 letters the same as a word in the dictionary (I assume in the same order that gives the above error about the dictionary work, I still can't see what word fgk08p corresponds to but I notice that the first three letters in a permutation of that passwd fkg08p might correspond to a well known word. I think their algorithm is broken but they will not admit it, so if this is not bothering anyone else I will give up. -- ======================================================================= It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one. -- Phil White ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From sundaram at redhat.com Fri May 20 14:35:05 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:05:05 +0530 Subject: Malfunction in passwd checking.- more information. In-Reply-To: <20050520142541.GA4018@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050519145329.GA12170@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <20050520142541.GA4018@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <428DF599.8070609@redhat.com> Hi > I think their algorithm >is broken but they will not admit it, so if this is not bothering >anyone else I will give up. > > Only way to get developers to track this bug and fix it is for someone to report it in bugzilla.redhat.com against PAM. has that been done already. I did a search and couldnt find any information on this. If this hasnt been reported, please do so now with the relevant examples regards Rahul From dcbw at redhat.com Fri May 20 14:54:38 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:54:38 -0400 Subject: OOo 1.9.100-1 bug #155432 (doc becomes 0 bytes after save & crash) In-Reply-To: <1116596066.3777.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116595884.10185.13.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1116596066.3777.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116600878.2942.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 14:34 +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > > Is there a new OOo release in the pipeline which fixes this? The current > > situation could use some TLC. Hope this will be fixed before FC4 turns > > gold. > > 1.9.104 is up on the OOo website, so I'd imagine that the FC build will > follow tomorrow/sunday - there is normally a short lag. Actually it just finished building last night and should get moved to rawhide today. Hopefully. Dan From kyrre at solution-forge.net Fri May 20 14:55:08 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:55:08 +0200 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues In-Reply-To: <428D602E.8020804@davenjudy.org> References: <428D602E.8020804@davenjudy.org> Message-ID: <1116600908.3358.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> fre, 20.05.2005 kl. 05.57 skrev David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud): > Unfortunately, I'm headed out of town on Friday so this is a "seagull > comment" (fly in, crap all over the place, then leave) but I just > managed to get my Synaptics Touchpad working on an HP Pavilion zv6015 > with test 3 x86_64. The *really dumb* trick turned out to be to > recompile the kernel with psmouse as a module. Doing a simple "modprobe > -r psmouse" followed by a "modprobe psmouse" is sufficient to find the > Synaptics touchpad. It then appears to work in both text (gpm) and > X-windows. Hmm... Could this touchpad trick have anything to do with this bug?: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156418 From dcbw at redhat.com Fri May 20 14:55:39 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:55:39 -0400 Subject: OO,gcc,kernel: which versions? In-Reply-To: <428DEA99.9080302@libero.it> References: <428DEA99.9080302@libero.it> Message-ID: <1116600939.2942.7.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 15:48 +0200, Cimmo wrote: > Just a question about versions: > Fedora Core 4 is only 3 weeks on the way, OpenOffice is in beta version > will be shipped like this? Kernel is in rc4 will stay this? gcc is 4.0.0 For OOo, yes, FC4 will ship with a beta version of OOo. Originally the "final" OOo 2.0 was supposed to come out in April or May, but of course it has been pushed back to June. So when a "final" OOo 2.0 comes out, the version in FC4 will be updated to the final release of OOo 2.0. Dan From mattdm at mattdm.org Fri May 20 15:00:00 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:00:00 -0400 Subject: Malfunction in passwd checking.- more information. In-Reply-To: <20050520142541.GA4018@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050519145329.GA12170@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <20050520142541.GA4018@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <20050520150000.GA19392@jadzia.bu.edu> On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 09:25:41AM -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > fkg08p might correspond to a well known word. I think their algorithm > is broken but they will not admit it, so if this is not bothering > anyone else I will give up. "Their" algorithm is simply that from cracklib -- see /usr/share/doc/pam-*/txts/README.pam_cracklib, which in turn is linked to cracklib.so itself, which you can read about in /usr/share/doc/cracklib-*/README. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 76 degrees Fahrenheit. From jakub at redhat.com Fri May 20 15:01:52 2005 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:01:52 -0400 Subject: OO,gcc,kernel: which versions? In-Reply-To: <428DEA99.9080302@libero.it> References: <428DEA99.9080302@libero.it> Message-ID: <20050520150151.GA4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 03:48:09PM +0200, Cimmo wrote: > Just a question about versions: > gcc is 4.0.0 plus some cvs patches, will stay like this? Well, actually it is not 4.0.0 + cvs patches, but content of gcc-4_0-rhl-branch + a few patches. gcc-4_0-rhl-branch is merged from gcc-4_0-branch every few days. All Fedora GCCs were like that (just replace 4_0-rhl with 3_2-rhl8, 3_3-rhl and 3_4-rhl in the name of branches). Why do you ask? Jakub From cimmo at libero.it Fri May 20 15:06:30 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:06:30 +0200 Subject: OO,gcc,kernel: which versions? In-Reply-To: <20050520150151.GA4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <428DEA99.9080302@libero.it> <20050520150151.GA4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <428DFCF6.9020304@libero.it> Jakub Jelinek ha scritto: >Well, actually it is not 4.0.0 + cvs patches, but content >of gcc-4_0-rhl-branch + a few patches. >gcc-4_0-rhl-branch is merged from gcc-4_0-branch every few days. >All Fedora GCCs were like that (just replace 4_0-rhl with >3_2-rhl8, 3_3-rhl and 3_4-rhl in the name of branches). > >Why do you ask? > > Because I want to know why a stable product will be shipped with beta releases. Ok in this case gcc is taken from the stable and official branch, but there are some patches taken from CVS isn't? So you can probably obtain an unstable compiler or a compiler with new bugs, the same thing is for kernel, where also snapshot are merged with redhat kernels... From jakub at redhat.com Fri May 20 15:12:28 2005 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:12:28 -0400 Subject: OO,gcc,kernel: which versions? In-Reply-To: <428DFCF6.9020304@libero.it> References: <428DEA99.9080302@libero.it> <20050520150151.GA4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <428DFCF6.9020304@libero.it> Message-ID: <20050520151228.GB4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 05:06:30PM +0200, Cimmo wrote: > Because I want to know why a stable product will be shipped with beta > releases. > Ok in this case gcc is taken from the stable and official branch, but > there are some patches taken from CVS isn't? So you can probably obtain > an unstable compiler or a compiler with new bugs, the same thing is for > kernel, where also snapshot are merged with redhat kernels... CVS does not imply unstable. And both gcc-4_0{,-rhl}-branch are release branches, for which (usually) only regression bug fixes are allowed. Official GCC 4.0.0 release has several very severe bugs that are fixed in the Fedora GCC. Jakub From dcbw at redhat.com Fri May 20 15:16:13 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:16:13 -0400 Subject: OO,gcc,kernel: which versions? In-Reply-To: <428DFCF6.9020304@libero.it> References: <428DEA99.9080302@libero.it> <20050520150151.GA4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <428DFCF6.9020304@libero.it> Message-ID: <1116602173.2942.19.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 17:06 +0200, Cimmo wrote: > Jakub Jelinek ha scritto: > > >Well, actually it is not 4.0.0 + cvs patches, but content > >of gcc-4_0-rhl-branch + a few patches. > >gcc-4_0-rhl-branch is merged from gcc-4_0-branch every few days. > >All Fedora GCCs were like that (just replace 4_0-rhl with > >3_2-rhl8, 3_3-rhl and 3_4-rhl in the name of branches). > > > >Why do you ask? > > > > > Because I want to know why a stable product will be shipped with beta > releases. > Ok in this case gcc is taken from the stable and official branch, but > there are some patches taken from CVS isn't? So you can probably obtain > an unstable compiler or a compiler with new bugs, the same thing is for > kernel, where also snapshot are merged with redhat kernels... If we wait for a "final" OOo, and a "final" gcc, and a "final" kernel, and a "final" eclipse, and a "final" GNOME, we'd never ship anything. None of these projects talk to each other and coordinate their releases, and Fedora is on a release schedule. If you wait for everything you ship to be "final", you'll never ship your distribution. If you keep older versions of programs around, while stable, you do not get the benefits of new features. OOo 1.1.4 was released in December, while 2.0 had been in development for 2 years already. If 2.0 comes out a week after Fedora Core 4 ships, are we supposed to wait to ship OOo 2.0 until _next_ _year_, 6 or 7 months after it actually came out? No. You must balance the stability of software you ship with the features the software provides. During development, if you are working with beta software, you identify bad bugs and you fix those before you ship. You don't wait for upstream to fix them because upstream is not shipping Fedora Core and upstream frankly doesn't care about Fedora Core. It's a tradeoff; if you never trade something off, you never ship anything, or you ship crap that nobody wants to use because its very old. Furthermore, Fedora Core is a "bleeding edge" distribution. If you want the ultimate in stability, you use something like Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Different distributions fit different needs. Dan From dmalcolm at redhat.com Fri May 20 15:17:53 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:17:53 -0400 Subject: FC4 Test 3.92 Exchange Connector Hangs In-Reply-To: <1116542957.31259.2.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116542957.31259.2.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <1116602273.7694.43.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 08:49 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > I have been trying to use the Evolution Exchange Connector in FC4 test > 3.92. > > When I enter the url for the OWA, and click on Authenticate, the system > hangs. > > I have tried Outlook Web Access via Firefox, and it works fine. > > If some one can tell me how to set up some logging, I can try it and > look at the log files to see what is wrong. Normally you can get debug info on the connection with the exchange server by setting E2K_DEBUG=4 and running the backend: /usr/libexec/evolution/2.2/evolution-exchange-storage manually. However, that particular button is implemented by a plugin running inside the main "evolution" process, rather than the "evolution-exchange-storage" backend. So I'd suggest using Ethereal to see the traffic (if any) between your machine and the Exchange server when you press that button. From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Fri May 20 15:28:05 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:28:05 +0200 Subject: OOo 1.9.100-1 bug #155432 (doc becomes 0 bytes after save & crash) In-Reply-To: <1116600878.2942.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <1116595884.10185.13.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1116596066.3777.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116600878.2942.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116602885.10185.48.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 10:54 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 14:34 +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] > Actually it just finished building last night and should get moved to > rawhide today. Hopefully. That be great Dan. I look forward to give it a try once it is available. Do you know if that save/crash/0 byte document bug has been fixed? Regards, Patrick From cimmo at libero.it Fri May 20 15:24:56 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:24:56 +0200 Subject: OO,gcc,kernel: which versions? In-Reply-To: <1116602173.2942.19.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <428DEA99.9080302@libero.it> <20050520150151.GA4930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <428DFCF6.9020304@libero.it> <1116602173.2942.19.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <428E0148.2090203@libero.it> Dan Williams ha scritto: >You must balance the stability of software you ship with the features >the software provides. During development, if you are working with beta >software, you identify bad bugs and you fix those before you ship. You >don't wait for upstream to fix them because upstream is not shipping >Fedora Core and upstream frankly doesn't care about Fedora Core. It's a >tradeoff; if you never trade something off, you never ship anything, or >you ship crap that nobody wants to use because its very old. > > There is an alternative option: give OOo 1.1.4 when FC4 will be released, and when OOo 2.0 will come out give it like other updates. I perfectly know that each projects doesn't care or wait for Fedora, and I know that waiting is not always the best resolution, but also come out with OO that may corrupt your data is not better, do you agree? b.r. Cimmo From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 20 15:25:41 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:25:41 +0100 Subject: OOo 1.9.100-1 bug #155432 (doc becomes 0 bytes after save & crash) In-Reply-To: <1116600878.2942.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <1116595884.10185.13.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1116596066.3777.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116600878.2942.5.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116602742.1980.2.camel@localhost> Hi, > > 1.9.104 is up on the OOo website, so I'd imagine that the FC build will > > follow tomorrow/sunday - there is normally a short lag. > > Actually it just finished building last night and should get moved to > rawhide today. Hopefully. Any idea roughly when? I've a pile of issues with the current version which are stopping me from doing a work :-( (Yeah, I know, rawhide eats babies...) TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. 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Hopefully, it'll also have fixed 156176 Printing sideways seems broken in ooo 156751 Spell checker on OO impress fails 156883 OOImpress templates gone 156887 OO Impress losing slides 157296 Document corruption when using special paste and formulae 157817 Fonts lost in OO writer depending on how a file is loaded 158252 Bookmark not found error in exported Word doc (157296 is the most important of that lot to me as it's something I use frequently) TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You > >don't wait for upstream to fix them because upstream is not shipping > >Fedora Core and upstream frankly doesn't care about Fedora Core. It's a > >tradeoff; if you never trade something off, you never ship anything, or > >you ship crap that nobody wants to use because its very old. > > > > > There is an alternative option: > give OOo 1.1.4 when FC4 will be released, and when OOo 2.0 will come out > give it like other updates. That doesn't work well, because then you _completely_ change the way people work after the project has come out. If you download Fedora Core 4, you expect that it more or less works the same way forever. If you upgrade OOo to 2.0, then that's a completely different program with a huge number of changes and that's not good. Things which used to work may now fail. Menu items are no longer in the same place, etc. Things can be unstable during development, but after a release you work to fix bugs and improve stability, not dump a huge new unknown package on people. Dan From michal at harddata.com Fri May 20 15:37:05 2005 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:37:05 -0600 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues In-Reply-To: <428D602E.8020804@davenjudy.org>; from dave@davenjudy.org on Thu, May 19, 2005 at 09:57:34PM -0600 References: <428D602E.8020804@davenjudy.org> Message-ID: <20050520093705.A2841@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 09:57:34PM -0600, David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) wrote: > ... I just > managed to get my Synaptics Touchpad working on an HP Pavilion zv6015 > with test 3 x86_64. The *really dumb* trick turned out to be to > recompile the kernel with psmouse as a module. Doing a simple "modprobe > -r psmouse" followed by a "modprobe psmouse" is sufficient to find the > Synaptics touchpad. I have no way to test that but in the case like the above I would try to boot with 'psmouse.proto=imps' or 'psmouse.proto=bare' (or even dig through sources for other possible values of this option). It is quite possible that this would help without a kernel recompilation. Michal From tauist at austin.rr.com Fri May 20 15:21:15 2005 From: tauist at austin.rr.com (tauist) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:21:15 -0500 Subject: error compiling new kernel config Message-ID: <200505201021.16231.tauist@austin.rr.com> OK .....I need help getting kernel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.x86_64.rpm configured on a Prostar 4764 AMD64 CPU laptop. I installed kernel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.src.rpm, kernel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.x86_64.rpm, kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.x86_64.rpm, and kernel-doc-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.noarch.rpm. I tried to change just the CPU in menuconfig, then ran make and got the following. make[1]: *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'. Stop. make: *** [init] Error 2 Any ideas? Thanks!! Larry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Fri May 20 15:46:15 2005 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:46:15 +0100 Subject: FC4 Test 3.92 Exchange Connector Hangs Message-ID: <428E0647.8010305@rl.ac.uk> > > It what you are seeing similar to the bug > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302209? > > - Jamie > > On 5/19/05, Chandana De Silva > wrote: > > > > I have been trying to use the Evolution Exchange Connector in FC4 test > > 3.92. > > > > When I enter the url for the OWA, and click on Authenticate, the system > > hangs. > > > > I have tried Outlook Web Access via Firefox, and it works fine. > > > > If some one can tell me how to set up some logging, I can try it and > > look at the log files to see what is wrong. > > > > Chandana > > > > -- Hi Chandana, For what its worth the CVS head doesn't have this problem. And is has an LDAP access problem improved too... Bill From marshall at novafoundry.com Fri May 20 15:58:34 2005 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:58:34 -0400 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues In-Reply-To: <20050520093705.A2841@mail.harddata.com> References: <428D602E.8020804@davenjudy.org> <20050520093705.A2841@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1116604714.5758.12.camel@infinity> Somewhere (I can't remember where, and couldn't find it again when googling) I found a way to do it without recompiling. I believe the solution was to issue a "reset" command to the serio device... something like echo -n "reset" > /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio0/drvctl but.. I'm not sure if "reset" was the right command.. but I think drvctl was the right place to send the command. On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 09:37 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 09:57:34PM -0600, David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) wrote: > > ... I just > > managed to get my Synaptics Touchpad working on an HP Pavilion zv6015 > > with test 3 x86_64. The *really dumb* trick turned out to be to > > recompile the kernel with psmouse as a module. Doing a simple "modprobe > > -r psmouse" followed by a "modprobe psmouse" is sufficient to find the > > Synaptics touchpad. > > I have no way to test that but in the case like the above I would > try to boot with 'psmouse.proto=imps' or 'psmouse.proto=bare' (or > even dig through sources for other possible values of this option). > It is quite possible that this would help without a kernel > recompilation. > > Michal > From justin.conover at gmail.com Fri May 20 16:00:27 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:00:27 -0500 Subject: error compiling new kernel config In-Reply-To: <200505201021.16231.tauist@austin.rr.com> References: <200505201021.16231.tauist@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: On 5/20/05, tauist wrote: > > > OK .....I need help getting > kernel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.x86_64.rpm configured on a Prostar > 4764 AMD64 CPU laptop. > > > > I installed kernel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.src.rpm, > kernel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.x86_64.rpm, > > kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.x86_64.rpm, and > > kernel-doc-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4.noarch.rpm. I tried to change > just the CPU in menuconfig, then ran make and got the following. > > > > make[1]: *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by > `init/built-in.o'. Stop. > > make: *** [init] Error 2 Do you have the development tools installed? yum groupinstall "Development Tools" How are you rebuilding it? rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec Will give you a {rh}-patched kernel in /home/you/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel*/linux* or /usr/src/redhat/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel*/linux* From marshall at novafoundry.com Fri May 20 16:01:55 2005 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 12:01:55 -0400 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues In-Reply-To: <1116604714.5758.12.camel@infinity> References: <428D602E.8020804@davenjudy.org> <20050520093705.A2841@mail.harddata.com> <1116604714.5758.12.camel@infinity> Message-ID: <1116604915.5758.16.camel@infinity> I forgot to mention.. I ended up having to recompile the kernel anyway to fix the clock issue (clock running at double speed... that is.. 1 minute wall time would be 2 minutes system time). If anyone else is having that issue with the compaq r4000 or the hp zv6000, do a google search on "timerhack", and you can find a patch/hack in one of the kernel mailing lists. -- Marshall On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 11:58 -0400, Marshall Lewis wrote: > Somewhere (I can't remember where, and couldn't find it again when > googling) I found a way to do it without recompiling. I believe the > solution was to issue a "reset" command to the serio device... > something like > > echo -n "reset" > /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio0/drvctl > > but.. I'm not sure if "reset" was the right command.. but I think drvctl > was the right place to send the command. > > On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 09:37 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 09:57:34PM -0600, David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) wrote: > > > ... I just > > > managed to get my Synaptics Touchpad working on an HP Pavilion zv6015 > > > with test 3 x86_64. The *really dumb* trick turned out to be to > > > recompile the kernel with psmouse as a module. Doing a simple "modprobe > > > -r psmouse" followed by a "modprobe psmouse" is sufficient to find the > > > Synaptics touchpad. > > > > I have no way to test that but in the case like the above I would > > try to boot with 'psmouse.proto=imps' or 'psmouse.proto=bare' (or > > even dig through sources for other possible values of this option). > > It is quite possible that this would help without a kernel > > recompilation. > > > > Michal > > > From RouillardSy at yahoo.fr Fri May 20 16:13:26 2005 From: RouillardSy at yahoo.fr (Sylvain Rouillard) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 18:13:26 +0200 Subject: OOo Message-ID: <200505201813.26597.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> ok, there has been a lot of things said about OOo lately, and I just realized I had not really tested it yet :-s Actually, it's dead slow here. Am I the only one to see this? When I do simple things such as save a file or move around some text etc (virtually anything beside typing), I see the icons in the menu bar getting greyed out from left to right (top bar first, then second), and being coloured back again (same order). This little dance may take maybe 5 secondes each time I do an action, time during which I cannot do _anything_. Kinda annoying. Tell me I'm not alone! Paul listed a bunch of OOo bugs in a previous mail today, and none of them seemed related to what I see... Sylvain AMD64 3400+, 1Gb RAM From trial at dresco.co.uk Fri May 20 16:22:47 2005 From: trial at dresco.co.uk (Jon Escombe) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Sonoma Centrino M70 (Dell Latitude D810, C610) References: <428AC3BD.3000409@sonic.net> <428D19E1.1050400@sonic.net> Message-ID: Jon Escombe dresco.co.uk> writes: > Apologies if I got your hopes up, the patch was for the SATA suspend/resume > issue, rather than the DVD drive DMA. It can be found in the following thread > groups.google.co.uk/group/fa.linux.kernel/browse_frm/thread/2c87315d6ce17273 Played around with this a little more today, and got the DVD drive DMA working under a 2.6.12-rc4-git kernel (after a fashion). By disabling the IDE_GENERIC support in the kernel, the ata_piix driver can pick up the port. However, it doesn't have support for PATA/ATAPI devices unless a couple of #defines are added to libata.h. However, I believe this code is still in development, so think we may just have to wait a while until it's production ready (certainly saw some errors when running this test setup today). Regards, Jon. From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Fri May 20 16:55:14 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 18:55:14 +0200 Subject: OOo In-Reply-To: <200505201813.26597.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> References: <200505201813.26597.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <1116608114.10185.68.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 18:13 +0200, Sylvain Rouillard wrote: [snip] > Actually, it's dead slow here. Am I the only one to see this? When I do simple > things such as save a file or move around some text etc (virtually anything > beside typing), I see the icons in the menu bar getting greyed out from left > to right (top bar first, then second), and being coloured back again (same > order). This little dance may take maybe 5 secondes each time I do an action, > time during which I cannot do _anything_. Kinda annoying. > > Tell me I'm not alone! Paul listed a bunch of OOo bugs in a previous mail > today, and none of them seemed related to what I see... I haven't seen a significant slowness in Writer although saving and generating a pdf makes OOo look like it's dead in the water for a few secs. Mind you that is personal perception. Could be debugging code slowing it down. I do see icons greying out (think when I generate a pdf) but not for a whole 5 seconds. More like a slow rebuild of the screen after an action has taken place. Regards, Patrick From rpaiz at simpaticus.com Fri May 20 17:09:10 2005 From: rpaiz at simpaticus.com (Rodolfo J. Paiz) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:09:10 -0600 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> Message-ID: <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 01:46 +0200, Cimmo wrote: > I think top-posting is not worse than bottom-posting, with long long > long email in reply. Cimmo, your comparison is misleading. Quoting an entire long message to add one line or two is bad. Top-posting is bad. Defending one bad thing by comparing it to another bad thing proves nothing. Please, don't top post. And please, do trim (delete) text from previous messages which is not necessary to understand the context of your reply. That way you avoid both bad things. Cheers, -- Rodolfo J. Paiz From dcbw at redhat.com Fri May 20 17:14:48 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:14:48 -0400 Subject: OOo In-Reply-To: <200505201813.26597.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> References: <200505201813.26597.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <1116609288.4076.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 18:13 +0200, Sylvain Rouillard wrote: > ok, there has been a lot of things said about OOo lately, and I just realized > I had not really tested it yet :-s > > Actually, it's dead slow here. Am I the only one to see this? When I do simple > things such as save a file or move around some text etc (virtually anything > beside typing), I see the icons in the menu bar getting greyed out from left > to right (top bar first, then second), and being coloured back again (same > order). This little dance may take maybe 5 secondes each time I do an action, > time during which I cannot do _anything_. Kinda annoying. > > Tell me I'm not alone! Paul listed a bunch of OOo bugs in a previous mail > today, and none of them seemed related to what I see... No, I saw this today when trying to reproduce the crash-on-save problem. It seems to be only the toolbars, because you are perfectly able to Ctl +S to save the document even when the Save button is grayed out on the toolbar. I think its an upstream bug and not specifically Fedora, but it would be good to figure out if the upstream m104 has this issue too. Dan From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 20 17:34:49 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 18:34:49 +0100 Subject: OOo In-Reply-To: <1116609288.4076.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <200505201813.26597.RouillardSy@yahoo.fr> <1116609288.4076.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116610489.1980.12.camel@localhost> Hi, > I think its an upstream bug and not specifically Fedora, but it would be > good to figure out if the upstream m104 has this issue too. Sooner it's in rawhide, the faster I can hammer it! TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Has gstreamer-libs been changed to something else or is there a packaging error so gstreamer-libs-0.8.pc is not added when gstreamer-devel is installed? TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From cimmo at libero.it Fri May 20 17:53:02 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 19:53:02 +0200 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> Message-ID: <428E23FE.4050208@libero.it> Rodolfo J. Paiz ha scritto: >Cimmo, your comparison is misleading. Quoting an entire long message to >add one line or two is bad. Top-posting is bad. Defending one bad thing >by comparing it to another bad thing proves nothing. > > I want only to say that top-posting make flames, but long long long and unreadable mails not. As you said they are both bad... From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 20 17:55:55 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 18:55:55 +0100 Subject: acast In-Reply-To: <1116611207.13014.4.camel@localhost> References: <1116611207.13014.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1116611755.13014.6.camel@localhost> Hi, > Has gstreamer-libs been changed to something else or is there a > packaging error so gstreamer-libs-0.8.pc is not added when > gstreamer-devel is installed? D'oh! Needs gnome-media-devel Next problem, requires shout or shout2 plugin from gst-plugins TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Theres still quite a bit of churn upstream so we're probably a way off a real 2.6.12 release, so FC4 will likely go out with an rc4-gitX kernel, and rebase to 2.6.12 proper after its upstream release. If you look at the recent kernel changelogs, I've also documented what actually changed in each days -git release. This is the outcome of my review of 'what changed today', and is partly there for my own benefit so I know what changed when if regressions occur. Dave From thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net Fri May 20 18:15:15 2005 From: thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net (Darwin H. Webb) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:15:15 -0700 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> Message-ID: <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> How about everyone just deal with reality and stop trying to control others communication style. Top posting to me takes into account the volume, time, and effort needed to snip, scroll, and copy/paste of a 100 e-mail a day. Get real. You can't say this is not easier and more practical, even if your logic is sound when looking at the face of an e-mail format. But people's brains are quicker than any bank of computers for figuring out patterns and after reading the top new info, can discern if you need to scroll to reference history, and all the history is here, listed just like most computer lists, in time descending order. And if you don't want to read something because your to attached to your opinions of how the universe should work, or you just want to pick up your ball and bat and walk away, then DO IT. But stupid control freak rules is the first rule of lost communication. And all communication problems are owned by the receiver, not the sender. Top, Bottom, right to left, it doesn't matter unless you are stupid or a fanatic. Love & Light, Darwin On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 11:09 -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 01:46 +0200, Cimmo wrote: > > I think top-posting is not worse than bottom-posting, with long long > > long email in reply. > > Cimmo, your comparison is misleading. Quoting an entire long message to > add one line or two is bad. Top-posting is bad. Defending one bad thing > by comparing it to another bad thing proves nothing. > > Please, don't top post. And please, do trim (delete) text from previous > messages which is not necessary to understand the context of your reply. > That way you avoid both bad things. > > Cheers, > > -- > Rodolfo J. Paiz > From goemon at anime.net Fri May 20 18:20:01 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> Message-ID: A little off topic, but does anyone have procmail filters for top posts and for 'stupid email disclaimers'? I have no intention of reading either, nor wasting diskspace with them. -Dan From shiva at sewingwitch.com Fri May 20 18:17:53 2005 From: shiva at sewingwitch.com (Kenneth Porter) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:17:53 -0700 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> Message-ID: --On Friday, May 20, 2005 11:15 AM -0700 "Darwin H. Webb" wrote: > But stupid control freak rules is the first rule of lost communication. > And all communication problems are owned by the receiver, not the > sender. Unless the sender wants something. Don't expect busy people to reply if you don't make it easy for them to understand what you're asking for. From sjansen at gurulabs.com Fri May 20 18:42:19 2005 From: sjansen at gurulabs.com (Stuart Jansen) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 12:42:19 -0600 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> Message-ID: <1116614539.8789.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Whee! Another useless flame war! On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 11:15 -0700, Darwin H. Webb wrote: > How about everyone just deal with reality and stop trying to control > others communication style. How about everyone show a little courtesy. If you want a potential reader to pay attention, make things as easy as possible for that reader. If you want to be ignored, go ahead and be a lazy bore. The more mail a person receives, the more they will appreciate an easy to understand message. If you stupidly top post, it's the first indication that your message probably isn't worth wasting time on. A well trimmed message is also much more useful to people stumbling on your message in an archive through a google search. Not a big deal when trying to uselessly justify laziness, but it can be a real help when the person is trying to track down a solution to an obscure technical problem. Sure, my argument does rely on a little altruism. I'm asking for an extra five seconds of your life, in exchange for saving much more time cumulatively in the lives of the people that will receive your message. With time you'll get better at it. I'd estimate that trimming your message while I replied to it didn't take much more than 500 milliseconds. > Top posting to me takes into account the volume, time, and effort needed > to snip, scroll, and copy/paste of a 100 e-mail a day. > Get real. Get a real MUA. Seriously. You're either terminally lazy of you're using lousy software. -- Stuart Jansen Guru Labs, L.C. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rpjday at mindspring.com Fri May 20 18:41:01 2005 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 May 2005, Darwin H. Webb wrote: > ... But stupid control freak rules is the first rule of lost > communication. And all communication problems are owned by the > receiver, not the sender. so ... if i suggested that you were an arrogant, condescending twit with an overwhelming ignorance of standard mailing list etiquette who should have some sense beaten into him with an ax handle, the problem would be on *your* end, not "mine*? cool. that works for me. rday From tjb at unh.edu Fri May 20 18:54:21 2005 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:54:21 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <1116551176.3367.7.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> <1116547230.4747.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116551176.3367.7.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1116615261.6382.10.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Is anyone having any luck with x86_64 smp and nvidia (dell 670 with dual xeon 64s)? I get a lovely kernel panic and I have to "push the button..." It works fine on my home single Athlon64. May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: ----------- [cut here ] --------- [please bite here ] --------- May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: Kernel BUG at "arch/x86_64/mm/pageattr.c":154 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: invalid operand: 0000 [1] SMP May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: CPU 2 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: Modules linked in: vmnet(U) vmmon(U) nvidia(U) nfsd exportfs lockd parport_pc lp parport autofs4 i2c_dev i2c_core rfcomm l2cap bluetooth sunrpc md5 ipv6 video button battery ac joydev ohci1394 ieee1394 uhci_hcd ehci_hcd tpm_nsc tpm snd_emu10k1_synth snd_emux_synth snd_seq_virmidi snd_seq_midi_emul snd_emu10k1 snd_rawmidi snd_ac97_codec snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_util_mem snd_hwdep snd soundcore e100 mii e1000 floppy dm_snapshot dm_zero dm_mirror ext3 jbd raid5 xor dm_mod ata_piix libata aic79xx aic7xxx scsi_transport_spi sd_mod scsi_mod May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: Pid: 19258, comm: X Tainted: P 2.6.11-1.1323_FC4smp May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: RIP: 0010:[] {__change_page_attr+706} May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: RSP: 0018:ffff810106341ce8 EFLAGS: 00010282 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: RAX: 00000000000002a0 RBX: ffff8100010002a0 RCX: ffff81000000e000 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: RDX: 0000000000000060 RSI: 00000000000c7fec RDI: ffff810001000000 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: RBP: ffff8100c7fec000 R08: 03fffffffffff000 R09: 80000000c7e001e3 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: R10: 8000000000000163 R11: 0000000000000020 R12: 0000000000000018 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: R13: 00000000000001f8 R14: ffff81000000c1f8 R15: 8000000000000163 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: FS: 00002aaaaabe96e0(0000) GS:ffffffff80512480(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: CR2: 0000000000967070 CR3: 000000008a45d000 CR4: 00000000000006e0 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: Process X (pid: 19258, threadinfo ffff810106340000, task ffff810067f2c7c0) May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: Stack: 0000000000000001 ffffffff80101810 0000000000000000 ffffffff8011d6d4 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: ffffffff80426038 ffffffff8035e973 ffffffff8011aa10 ffff8100c7fec000 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: 00000000000c7fec 0000000000000000 May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: Call Trace:{init_level4_pgt+2064} {flat_send_IPI_allbutself+20} May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: {__down_write+51} {do_flush_tlb_all+0} May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: {change_page_attr_addr+172} {iounmap+257} May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: {:nvidia:os_unmap_kernel_space+9} May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: {:nvidia:_nv001626rm+102} {:nvidia:_nv003856rm+107} May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: {:nvidia:_nv004391rm+145} {:nvidia:_nv004194rm+99} May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: {:nvidia:_nv001175rm+231} {:nvidia:rm_shutdown_adapter+102} May 20 14:33:48 wintermute kernel: {:nvidia:nv_kern_close+425} {__fput+114} May 20 14:33:49 wintermute kernel: {filp_close+122} {sys_close+151} tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From lamune at doki-doki.net Fri May 20 19:00:55 2005 From: lamune at doki-doki.net (Mike Pepe) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:00:55 -0400 Subject: ConnectCom CSBFC100 Fibre Channel HA (LSIFC909 chip) Message-ID: <428E33E7.4060801@doki-doki.net> Has anyone gotten one of these cards to work successfully on FC4T3? I've been poking at this thing all day and I can't make it see disks, even though the BIOS sees them fine. I'm using the FusionMPT driver which supports the LSIFC909 chip that the board actually runs on. The drivers load fine, I can see the bus being scanned (drive lights blink when driver loads) but /proc/scsi/scsi sees nothing. Works fine with a QLA2200 card... -Mike From jerryw4386 at msn.com Fri May 20 20:45:21 2005 From: jerryw4386 at msn.com (JERRY WHITMIRE) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:45:21 -0700 Subject: Deleting Windows Xp. Pro . partition Message-ID: Hi i would like to delete the partition that win xp pro is on . ntfs And use it for Fedora 4 test 3 .{ nondos /home } I have a 160gb hard drive that is setup with . partitions status type volume label mbytes system usage 1 a ntfs --------------- 76293 --------- 50% windows 2 --- nondos --------------- 102 --------- % boot 3 --- nondos --------------- 76222 --------- 50% /home As you can see how it is setup. Can i do this without having to reinstall Fedora 4 test 3, and updating it again. or can this be done? I know how to remove the windows xp. label in grub so it will not show. Could someone Pease help me with this ? THANKS _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From ken at geekystuff.net Fri May 20 21:22:22 2005 From: ken at geekystuff.net (Ken Nordquist) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:22:22 -0400 Subject: Evolution Outbox -> Sent Problem Message-ID: <1116624142.18066.18.camel@kn.home.geekystuff.net> I just noticed that when I send email, the email does not move from the Outbox folder to the Sent folder. I am running Evolution 2.2.2-5 on the 1312 build of the x86_64 kernel. I noticed the same problem with the 1305 kernel as well (though I am pretty sure it is not a kernel issue). Has anyone else experienced this problem or know of a solution? Regards, Ken Nordquist From mwiktowy at gmx.net Fri May 20 20:49:31 2005 From: mwiktowy at gmx.net (Michael Wiktowy) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:49:31 -0400 Subject: yum aftermath In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116622171.4580.41.camel@localhost> Let me help with some punctuation first ... On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 02:28 +0000, Caleb Warta wrote and I parsed: > OK, well ... yum did not have any updates to fix my artsd run-away issue. I > still really, really need help with that. But it did undo my nVidia drivers, my > mplayer install and my xmms install with mp3 player support. OK, I am not to > good at installing none rpm stuff. For the most part I don't care to mess with > it. But there are a few things like americas army and planeshfit that I took > the time to learn how to install. But now after running yum I can listen to > music play movies or 3d games. Well, I can now I have to install the nvidia > drivers the hard way already. So I fixed that no problem but how can I remove > rpm installed stuff so that I can reinstall the versions I downloaded before > running yum? Also, how can I keep yum from overwriting "nvidia drivers", "xmms" > and "mplayer". > > someone please help Now with some technical help. Firstly, I would assume that you are using a test release since you are mailing to a testing mailing list. Expect a certain degree of instability when using a test release. If this isn't acceptable to you, stick with a stable release. If you are not using a test release, please direct your questions to fedora-list at redhat.com . Can't help with the artsd issue. I was under the impression that that was solved. There might be some interplay between that and ALSA dmix which FC is migrating to as a muxing solution AFAIK. It might help to search through Redhat's bugzilla to track your particular problem and add specific hardware specs and debugging output to that particular bug. As far as your nvidia drivers, due to them being closed in nature, there is added complexity in using them. Jeff Spaleta wrote a nice summary on keeping your nvidia kernel module up to date using livna's rpms just yesterday. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2005-May/msg00981.html There seems to be a little bit of emphasis in that message about not using both nvidia's installer and livna's packages at the same time ... but you really have to read between the lines to get that message. Before asking questions in the future, I would suggest doing some research in those archives and those of other similar lists before emailing the list. At livna and rpmforge repositories, you can find an xmms and xmms-mp3 plugin package that will allow you to play mp3 files. You can also find a gstreamer plugin that will allow you to play mp3 files using rhythmbox and other gstreamer based players. Setting up the yum repositories for livna and rpmforge will help you keep those packages up to date but they do not necessarily track testing releases. So you may get yourself into trouble with packages stepping on each other. "man rpm" at the command line will give you all the usage information on using the rpm command. You can exclude certain packages from getting updated running yum like: yum --exclude=package1 --exclude=package2 update If you don't know where some of the yum repos that I directed you to, use Google to find them. Typically there are instructions on using them on their homepages. Hope this helps. /Mike From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri May 20 21:35:06 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:35:06 +0200 Subject: Absence of the inbox applet in Gnome In-Reply-To: <1116384307.4564.395.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> References: <42891D09.700@optonline.net> <1116282959.7161.1.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> <4289232D.5040008@gmx.de> <1116384307.4564.395.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> Message-ID: <428E580A.7070305@gmx.de> Colin Charles wrote: >On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 00:48 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > >>>Fedora Extras, mail-notification. Preferences | More Preferences | Mail Notification. Runs in the Notification Area. >>> >>it is in SRPMS, i386, x86_64 but unfortunately not in ppc :-( >> >>http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/ppc/ >> >> >I've gone on to fixing it, and requested >builds of this again; so hopefully by tomorrow or something, the >buildsys will have churned out ppc packages for you. Enjoy > > thanks :-) Mai 20 23:19:50 Installed: gmime.ppc 2.1.9-5 Mai 20 23:19:51 Installed: compat-libstdc++-33.ppc 3.2.3-47.fc4 Mai 20 23:19:55 Installed: libicu.ppc 3.2-3 Mai 20 23:20:01 Installed: mail-notification.ppc 1.1-3 lftp download.fedora.redhat.com:/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/ppc> ls mail-noti* -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp ftp 320733 May 20 17:55 mail-notification-1.1-3.ppc.rpm -- shrek-m From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 20 21:35:13 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 22:35:13 +0100 Subject: GL/glut.h? Message-ID: <1116624913.13014.9.camel@localhost> Hi, I'm trying to recompile some code I wrote quite a while back with a newer version of OpenGL and have found glut.h has vanished, so making the likes of GLUT_SINGLE and GLUT_RGB completely useless as they're not defined anywhere. Has this been an oversight in the version of OpenGL used or has it changed so glut.h no longer exists? TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. 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In-Reply-To: <1116624913.13014.9.camel@localhost> References: <1116624913.13014.9.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20050520214212.GA7449@jadzia.bu.edu> On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 10:35:13PM +0100, Paul wrote: > I'm trying to recompile some code I wrote quite a while back with a > newer version of OpenGL and have found glut.h has vanished, so making > the likes of GLUT_SINGLE and GLUT_RGB completely useless as they're not > defined anywhere. freeglut-devel -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 79 degrees Fahrenheit. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 20 22:08:24 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:08:24 +0100 Subject: GL/glut.h? In-Reply-To: <20050520214212.GA7449@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <1116624913.13014.9.camel@localhost> <20050520214212.GA7449@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <1116626904.12858.1.camel@localhost> Hi, > > I'm trying to recompile some code I wrote quite a while back with a > > newer version of OpenGL and have found glut.h has vanished, so making > > the likes of GLUT_SINGLE and GLUT_RGB completely useless as they're not > > defined anywhere. > > freeglut-devel Great thanks. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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HTH, Nalin From gstool at earthlink.net Fri May 20 23:40:08 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 18:40:08 -0500 Subject: Deleting Windows Xp. Pro . partition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428E7558.3040006@earthlink.net> JERRY WHITMIRE wrote: > Hi i would like to delete the partition that win xp pro is on . ntfs > And use it for Fedora 4 test 3 .{ nondos /home } > I have a 160gb hard drive that is setup with . > > partitions status type volume label mbytes system > usage > 1 a ntfs --------------- > 76293 --------- 50% windows > 2 --- nondos --------------- > 102 --------- % boot > 3 --- nondos --------------- 76222 > --------- 50% /home > As you can see how it is setup. Can i do this without having to > reinstall > Fedora 4 test 3, and updating it again. or can this be done? > I know how to remove the windows xp. label in grub so it will not show. > Could someone Pease help me with this ? > From your description, I can't fugure out where you currently have FC4T3, or do you have it? I also don't see a swap partition. At any rate, on a FC4 install with manual partition, you should be able to assign partition 1 to / and have it formatted with ext3 file system. That is a LOT of disk space for the system, however, so it might be better to split it up into several partitions. A 10GB partition is plenty for the system. You should have a swap partition about 1 - 2x the amount of RAM in your computer (this is a very nebulous spec.) With a few more pieces of information, someone might be able to give you better recommendations. Gerry From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat May 21 00:02:44 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:02:44 -0400 Subject: Deleting Windows Xp. Pro . partition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428E7AA4.5070604@insight.rr.com> JERRY WHITMIRE wrote: > Hi i would like to delete the partition that win xp pro is on . ntfs > And use it for Fedora 4 test 3 .{ nondos /home } > I have a 160gb hard drive that is setup with . > > partitions status type volume label mbytes system usage > 1 a ntfs --------------- > 76293 --------- 50% windows > 2 --- nondos --------------- 102 > --------- % boot > 3 --- nondos --------------- 76222 > --------- 50% /home > As you can see how it is setup. Can i do this without having to reinstall > Fedora 4 test 3, and updating it again. or can this be done? > I know how to remove the windows xp. label in grub so it will not show. > Could someone Pease help me with this ? > THANKS Are you saying that /home is included currently within the / partition and you want to make the ntfs partition (XP) into a new /home partition and transfer whatever is currently in /home (within the / mount) to a newly mounted home? If this is the case, you could toggle the partition type of the ntfs partition to type 83 with fdisk as root (linux) and then run mkfs -j /dev/ and a new partition should be created as ext3. Then you need to make a mount point (create a directory in which to temporarily mount the newly created partition), like /mnt/newhome and copy the contents from /home (under the / partition) to /mnt/newhome The file permissions have to mirror the file permissions that are presently set in /home (in the / mountpoint). Then you have two choices, leave the contents currently on /home (on /) alone (for backup, if not a lot of disk space is used) or recover disk space which /home used on the / mountpoint. If you want to reclaim disk space, I would boot into runlevel 1 (single user and has root permissions) and remove the contents that are currently in the /home directory/ but leave the /home directory there. (make a BACKUP of /home before doing this.) Next you would need to add an entry into /etc/fstab to mount the former ntfs, now ext3 with contents for the home directory in it. When you reboot, it should be displaying the contents as it did before, but only on a different partition. Since this is the last test release before FC4 comes out and it is advised to start fresh with a released version instead of updating from a test release. I think that if this worked for you, you would be able to retain your current information from home on the final FC4 release. For better answers, you might try the fedora-list, but don't mention that you are running FC4T3. (avoid flames). Ask how to dump XP and make the partition /home and transfer current information from your existing /home (under / mountpoint) to the new partition. I hope this puts you in the right direction. It is not needed to reinstall FC4T3 and dump ntfs, but it might be simpler. Jim -- Will LINUX ever overtake sliced bread as the #1 achiIt would not be useful to have this seperate partition than to ions again. A plus would be that you could retain /home (old ntfs forma) evement of mankind? From jeffy5 at optonline.net Sat May 21 00:56:17 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:56:17 -0400 Subject: Installing Fedora Core 4T3 Directly from ISO Images Message-ID: <428E8731.1020908@optonline.net> Hello Everyone, I am having difficulty in installing Fedora Core 4T3 on my Dell Inspiron 4000 Laptop. The reason for this is that I cannot boot from the first disk, thus not enabling me to install the operating system. Is there another way to install the operating system on my current computer, which has Fedora Core 3 installed? I also have the ISO image disks installed in my home folder. Any help would be appreciated. Jeff From chandana at desilva.id.au Sat May 21 01:05:04 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 11:05:04 +1000 Subject: FC4 Test 3.92 Exchange Connector Hangs In-Reply-To: References: <1116542957.31259.2.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <1116637504.31259.9.camel@chandana.dis> That describes what happened a few times. Some times the Authentication windows just hangs On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 06:07 -0600, Jamie Bohr wrote: > It what you are seeing similar to the bug > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302209? > > - Jamie From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat May 21 03:27:14 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:27:14 -0400 Subject: General comments for FC4T2 Message-ID: <428EAA92.6060603@insight.rr.com> I just booted into kernel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4 and the system seems substantially quicker than before. I upgraded to the latest packages and prelink completed its run before I reboot. Problems that I noted that were not application failures, but new features that need better ways to be handled were related to removing the old kernel and the kernel development rpms. There should be consistency in how you can remove the older packages. I think deps for the seperate kernel modules is a good idea, but it is not as simple to remove these modules with rpm any longer. The module deps force you to use yum erase kernel- and kernel-devel is still present and needs removed seperately. rpm output trying to remove kernel: rpm -e kernel-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 error: Failed dependencies: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 is needed by (installed) cman-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.3.i686 /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 is needed by (installed) dlm-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.2.i686 /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 is needed by (installed) gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.25.i686 yum output removing old kernel: yum erase kernel-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 Removed: kernel.i686 0:2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 Dependency Removed: cman-kernel.i686 0:2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.3 dlm-kernel.i686 0:2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.2 gnbd-kernel.i686 0:2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.25 Complete! rpm -q kernel-devel kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1323_FC4 Does it make sense to add a condition for the kernel-devel rpm to be removed also? I would prefer to be able to run one command to delete all older packages in one shot instead of needing to remove them seperately. I did not try a yum erase kernel-devel first and don't know if it would pull out all at once or not, I think this new aspect for FC4 should at least be mentioned in the release notes or during installation on a "ransom note". Great job on the FC4 test versions! Jim -- Snoopy: No problem is so big that it can't be run away from. From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sat May 21 04:56:25 2005 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Nifty Hat Mitch) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 21:56:25 -0700 Subject: New kernel x86_64 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 ide=nodma regression In-Reply-To: <20050519125107.GA6053@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <20050519060738.GD3655@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <20050519061625.GA28182@redhat.com> <20050519125107.GA6053@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <20050521045624.GA15444@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 05:51:07AM -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 02:16:25AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 11:07:38PM -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: > > > > > > The new kernel... 2.6.11-1.1315_FC4 x86_64 > > > requires ide=nodma when the previous > > > kernel-2.6.11-1.1312_FC4 did not. > > > > > > Without ide=nodma this system panics and does not boot. > > > > > > I am sure the LanParty MB chipset info matters, > > > so here is too much info... > > > > please file in bugzilla, along with the text from the panic. > > I do not have a console that can capture the text > from the problem system at this time. The interesting > stuff has scrolled past. > > So I have no more information than I have already > posted. Found me a cable.... something funny with 2.6.11-1.1323_FC4 as well. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new place to hang my hat :-) Found me a cable too. From sundaram at redhat.com Sat May 21 06:07:01 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 11:37:01 +0530 Subject: General comments for FC4T2 In-Reply-To: <428EAA92.6060603@insight.rr.com> References: <428EAA92.6060603@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <428ED005.3060803@redhat.com> Hi > > Does it make sense to add a condition for the kernel-devel rpm to be > removed also? I would prefer to be able to run one command to delete > all older packages in one shot instead of needing to remove them > seperately. I did not try a yum erase kernel-devel first and don't > know if it would pull out all at once or not, I think this new aspect > for FC4 should at least be mentioned in the release notes or during > installation on a "ransom note". > Release notes for Fedora is done in a volunteering basis. If you wish to suggest improvements please do so using bugzilla. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-May/msg00420.html Providing the content can be even more helpful. Thanks regards Rahul From monty19 at hotmail.com Sat May 21 08:40:48 2005 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:40:48 +0900 Subject: FC4T3 on Mac-Mini with SmartDisk attached Message-ID: I don't know if the behaviour is by design, or avoidable, but I installed FC4T3 on a Mac-Mini with a SmartDisk USB Floppy disk attached and I was continually prompted that /tmp/sda could not be opened. Not a big deal, I just restarted the computer with the SmartDisk detached and I didn't get the prompts, and the install went on normally. It was darned annoying trying to go through the install with it attached though. I reattached it after the install and everything works as expected. Other than that FC4T3 both x86 and PPC seem to work very well! From chrisw01 at comcast.net Sat May 21 14:05:24 2005 From: chrisw01 at comcast.net (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 08:05:24 -0600 Subject: Today's Rawhide Updates (OOo & libgcj) Message-ID: <1116684323.25889.11.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Anybody able to get around the dependency problem with libjawt.so.6 and opernoffice.org-core with today's (5/21) rawhide update? The rpm libgcj provides libjawt.so.6 and is on the update list as well, but openoffice.org-core still seems to think there's a problem. Output from yum -y update follows: --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package: openoffice.org-core --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core Attempts to update just libgcj lead to dependency needs for openofice.org-core (among others), which then say it needs libgcj again and fails. Ideas? Or do we just wait until tomorrow and hope this gets worked out? Cheers, Chris -- ====================== When the solution is simple, God is answering. -- Albert Einstein From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat May 21 14:27:04 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 15:27:04 +0100 Subject: Today's Rawhide Updates (OOo & libgcj) In-Reply-To: <1116684323.25889.11.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1116684323.25889.11.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1116685624.12858.60.camel@localhost> Hi, > Ideas? Or do we just wait until tomorrow and hope this gets worked out? There is definitely a problem. I'm updating now but excluding everything from gcc and will see if it will work in reverse. It could be one of these catch-22 problems. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I did not try a yum erase kernel-devel first and don't >> know if it would pull out all at once or not, I think this new aspect >> for FC4 should at least be mentioned in the release notes or during >> installation on a "ransom note". >> > Release notes for Fedora is done in a volunteering basis. If you wish to > suggest improvements please do so using bugzilla. > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-May/msg00420.html > > Providing the content can be even more helpful. Thanks > > regards > Rahul > I gave this a shot. Thanks! Jim https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=158394 -- This novel is not to be tossed lightly aside, but to be hurled with great force. -- Dorothy Parker From sundaram at redhat.com Sat May 21 14:43:00 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 20:13:00 +0530 Subject: General comments for FC4T2 In-Reply-To: <428F4878.1000403@insight.rr.com> References: <428EAA92.6060603@insight.rr.com> <428ED005.3060803@redhat.com> <428F4878.1000403@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <428F48F4.4090007@redhat.com> Hi > > I gave this a shot. > Thanks! > Jim > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=158394 > Thats great. Thank you for taking the time to report this in bugzilla regards Rahul From florin at andrei.myip.org Sat May 21 15:14:02 2005 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 08:14:02 -0700 Subject: FC4t3 selinux relabel not working? Message-ID: <1116688442.5311.4.camel@rivendell.home.local> I forced a selinux relabel and rebooted the system. But it doesn't seem to work. I thought the HDD LED is supposed to blink all the time while it's relabeling, but it's actually off, it's like the HDD doesn't move at all. The system is spending an aweful lot of time doing nothing. I think I'm going to reset it. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From maestronn at wowway.com Sat May 21 16:08:36 2005 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 12:08:36 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <1116551176.3367.7.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> <1116547230.4747.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116551176.3367.7.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <428F5D04.5060605@wowway.com> Trying ot get this to work for the x86_64 arch. The get the following error message when trying to rebuild. error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /usr/lib/nvidia/libGLcore.so "/usr/lib/nvidia/libGLcore.so" is a symbolic link: libGLcore.so -> libGLcore.so.1.0.7174 Anyone know what's going wrong here. Is my system settings or the spec file? From dcbw at redhat.com Sat May 21 16:20:53 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 12:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Today's Rawhide Updates (OOo & libgcj) In-Reply-To: <1116685624.12858.60.camel@localhost> References: <1116684323.25889.11.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> <1116685624.12858.60.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 May 2005, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > Ideas? Or do we just wait until tomorrow and hope this gets worked out? > > There is definitely a problem. I'm updating now but excluding everything > from gcc and will see if it will work in reverse. It could be one of > these catch-22 problems. gcj has changed the name of the AWT library so that its not the same as other JDK's AWT libraries. I had kicked off an OOo build to fix this issue yesterday, but that failed due to a new gcc package which changed some stuff. Yay for deps. Dan From selinux at gmail.com Sat May 21 17:09:30 2005 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 10:09:30 -0700 Subject: Today's Rawhide Updates (OOo & libgcj) In-Reply-To: References: <1116684323.25889.11.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> <1116685624.12858.60.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4c4ba15305052110097cb184e3@mail.gmail.com> On 5/21/05, Dan Williams wrote: > On Sat, 21 May 2005, Paul wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > Ideas? Or do we just wait until tomorrow and hope this gets worked out? > > > > There is definitely a problem. I'm updating now but excluding everything > > from gcc and will see if it will work in reverse. It could be one of > > these catch-22 problems. > > gcj has changed the name of the AWT library so that its not the same as other > JDK's AWT libraries. I had kicked off an OOo build to fix this issue yesterday, > but that failed due to a new gcc package which changed some stuff. Yay for > deps. > > Dan > yum --exclude=\*gcj\* --exclude=gcc\* --exclude=\*4.0.0-8\* update Seems to work..... [not sure you need the first 2 excludes....] tom -- Tom London From gstool at earthlink.net Sat May 21 18:13:14 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 13:13:14 -0500 Subject: Today's Rawhide Updates (OOo & libgcj) In-Reply-To: <4c4ba15305052110097cb184e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1116684323.25889.11.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> <1116685624.12858.60.camel@localhost> <4c4ba15305052110097cb184e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <428F7A3A.5070700@earthlink.net> Tom London wrote: >On 5/21/05, Dan Williams wrote: > > >>On Sat, 21 May 2005, Paul wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>>>Ideas? Or do we just wait until tomorrow and hope this gets worked out? >>>> >>>> >>>There is definitely a problem. I'm updating now but excluding everything >>>from gcc and will see if it will work in reverse. It could be one of >>>these catch-22 problems. >>> >>> >>gcj has changed the name of the AWT library so that its not the same as other >>JDK's AWT libraries. I had kicked off an OOo build to fix this issue yesterday, >>but that failed due to a new gcc package which changed some stuff. Yay for >>deps. >> >>Dan >> >> >> >yum --exclude=\*gcj\* --exclude=gcc\* --exclude=\*4.0.0-8\* update > >Seems to work..... [not sure you need the first 2 excludes....] > > > yum --exclude=\*4.0.0-8\* update worked for me as you suggested. Gerry From jvdias at redhat.com Sat May 21 18:29:04 2005 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 14:29:04 -0400 Subject: FC4t3 selinux relabel not working? In-Reply-To: <1116688442.5311.4.camel@rivendell.home.local> References: <1116688442.5311.4.camel@rivendell.home.local> Message-ID: <200505211429.04963.jvdias@redhat.com> On Saturday 21 May 2005 11:14, Florin Andrei wrote: | I forced a selinux relabel and rebooted the system. But it doesn't seem | to work. I thought the HDD LED is supposed to blink all the time while | it's relabeling, but it's actually off, it's like the HDD doesn't move | at all. | The system is spending an aweful lot of time doing nothing. I think I'm | going to reset it. | | -- | Florin Andrei | | http://florin.myip.org/ I noticed this last week - if you press the right-hand ++ keys the HD led starts flashing again and the relabel resumes and eventually completes. From jppoet at gmail.com Sat May 21 18:58:08 2005 From: jppoet at gmail.com (John P Poet) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 12:58:08 -0600 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed Message-ID: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> I have been happily running Fedora Core 2 for a year. I just tried to install Fedora Core 4T3, but it fails with: ------------------------------------- There was an error installing cracklib-dicts-2.8.2-1. This can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. This is a fatal error and your install will be aborted. ------------------------------------- If I switch over to F3, I see: ------------------------------------- Setting file_context_path to /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/file_contexts ------------------------------------- F4 shows: ------------------------------------- <6>SELinux: initialized (dev hda3, type xfs), uses xattr <4>post_create: setxatter failed, rc=1 (dev=hda7 ino=16449) ------------------------------------- My partion layout is: hda1: /boot (ext3) hda2: swap hda3: /home (xfs) hda4: extended hda5: / (Fedora core 2) (ext3) hda6: / (alternate root) (jfs) hda7: / (Fedora core 4T3) (jfs) I booted off the DVD with "linux jfs", so it would allow me to format the root partion with jfs. I told it not to install SELinux. I did test the media, and it is fine. Pretty sure my hardware is okay, since Fedora Core 2 is quite happy running on it. Any other information I can provide to help track this problem down? Thanks, John From liste-p.alain at wanadoo.fr Sat May 21 20:14:34 2005 From: liste-p.alain at wanadoo.fr (Aph) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 22:14:34 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild --sign Message-ID: <200505212214.34628@carola.nyarlathotep> After the last update of Fedora Core 4 Test 3, I can't sign my RPMS : [root at local SPECS]# rpmbuild -ba --sign * (build......) G?n?ration de la signature: 1005 *** glibc detected *** rpmbuild: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0a151f70 *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/libc.so.6[0x5711e4] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x77)[0x57171f] /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.4.so[0x130662] /usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so[0x86133a] /usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so(rpmAddSignature+0x1ce)[0x86195c] /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.4.so(writeRPM+0x9ab)[0xc44ada] /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.4.so(packageSources+0x1d2)[0xc45491] /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.4.so(buildSpec+0x3dc)[0xc3bf37] rpmbuild[0x804a794] rpmbuild[0x804ab64] rpmbuild[0x804b91c] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xc6)[0x522de6] rpmbuild[0x8049ea1] ======= Memory map: ======== 00111000-00218000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 2454511 /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.4.so 00218000-0021d000 rwxp 00106000 03:0a 2454511 /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.4.so 0021d000-00264000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 2443563 /usr/lib/libbeecrypt.so.6.4.0 00264000-00267000 rwxp 00046000 03:0a 2443563 /usr/lib/libbeecrypt.so.6.4.0 00267000-0035f000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 845330 /lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7f 0035f000-00371000 rwxp 000f8000 03:0a 845330 /lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7f 00371000-00374000 rwxp 00371000 00:00 0 00374000-00376000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 845441 /lib/libdl-2.3.5.so 00376000-00377000 r-xp 00001000 03:0a 845441 /lib/libdl-2.3.5.so 00377000-00378000 rwxp 00002000 03:0a 845441 /lib/libdl-2.3.5.so 00378000-0038a000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 2453932 /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.2.2 0038a000-0038b000 rwxp 00011000 03:0a 2453932 /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.2.2 0038b000-003a1000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 1367064 /usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so.2.2 003a1000-003a2000 rwxp 00016000 03:0a 1367064 /usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so.2.2 003a2000-00411000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 1367061 /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.3.2 00411000-00414000 rwxp 0006e000 03:0a 1367061 /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.3.2 00414000-00416000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 845336 /lib/libcom_err.so.2.1 00416000-00417000 rwxp 00001000 03:0a 845336 /lib/libcom_err.so.2.1 00417000-0041f000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 845559 /lib/librt-2.3.5.so 0041f000-00420000 r-xp 00007000 03:0a 845559 /lib/librt-2.3.5.so 00420000-00421000 rwxp 00008000 03:0a 845559 /lib/librt-2.3.5.so 00421000-0042b000 rwxp 00421000 00:00 0 0042b000-0043c000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 2443189 /usr/lib/libbz2.so.1.0.2 0043c000-0043d000 rwxp 00010000 03:0a 2443189 /usr/lib/libbz2.so.1.0.2 0045a000-0045c000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 2443118 /usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-15.so 0045c000-0045e000 rwxp 00001000 03:0a 2443118 /usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-15.so 004be000-004c7000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 845488 /lib/libnss_files-2.3.5.so 004c7000-004c8000 r-xp 00008000 03:0a 845488 /lib/libnss_files-2.3.5.so 004c8000-004c9000 rwxp 00009000 03:0a 845488 /lib/libnss_files-2.3.5.so 004d0000-004ea000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 845401 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so 004ea000-004eb000 r-xp 00019000 03:0a 845401 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so 004eb000-004ec000 rwxp 0001a000 03:0a 845401 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so 0050e000-00632000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 845324 /lib/libc-2.3.5.so 00632000-00634000 r-xp 00124000 03:0a 845324 /lib/libc-2.3.5.so 00634000-00636000 rwxp 00126000 03:0a 845324 /lib/libc-2.3.5.so 00636000-00638000 rwxp 00636000 00:00 0 00694000-0069d000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 845314 /lib/libgcc_s-4.0.0-20050518.so.1 0069d000-0069e000 rwxp 00009000 03:0a 845314 /lib/libgcc_s-4.0.0-20050518.so.1 0069e000-0077a000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 2443399 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.4 0077a000-0077f000 rwxp 000dc000 03:0a 2443399 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.4 0077f000-00784000 rwxp 0077f000 00:00 0 007d6000-007dd000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 2447186 /usr/lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0 007dd000-007de000 rwxp 00006000 03:0a 2447186 /usr/lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0 0081d000-00875000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 2447859 /usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so 00875000-00878000 rwxp 00058000 03:0a 2447859 /usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so 00878000-008ab000 rwxp 00878000 00:00 0 008d2000-008e2000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 845705 /lib/libselinux.so.1 008e2000-008e3000 rwxp 00010000 03:0a 845705 /lib/libselinux.so.1 0090a000-0091c000 r-xp 00000000 03:0a 2443395 /usr/lib/libelf-0.108.so 0091c000-0091d000 rwxp 00012000 03:0a 2443395 /Abandon [root at local SPECS]# -- j'ai entendu dire qu'une soci?t? allait commercialiser des logiciels permettant de ne pas t?l?charger les pubs et je vous trouvre cela inadmissible. Les sites seront mis tout nu et cela ridiculisera le site. -+- BL in: - A poil, tout le monde a poil -+- From chandana at desilva.id.au Sat May 21 08:32:50 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 18:32:50 +1000 Subject: Acrobat 7 does not run in FC4 3.92 Message-ID: <1116664370.31259.18.camel@chandana.dis> I have just discovered that Acrobat Reader 7 does not run. It does not give an error message, but simply exits. This is the binary version (tar.gz). The rpm version cannot be installed because of missing dependencies. root at chandana other]# rpm -ivh AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libstdc++.so.5 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) is needed by AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 Is there a set of compatibility that can be installed to resolve this ? Chandana From vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net Sat May 21 20:38:36 2005 From: vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net (HGM.bg (GMX)) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 22:38:36 +0200 Subject: No mouse during and after install on FC4T3 Message-ID: <200505212138.j4LLcr0O021013@mx1.redhat.com> Hi I have installed FC4T3 with a serial mouse (and like other Fedoras the mouse doesn't work during the install) but now i have no mouse at init 5, i tried to repair it via VNC and system-control-mouse and mouseconfig, but still no mouse. Any hints how to activate my serial mouse ? Thx /hgm.bg From mike at netlyncs.com Sat May 21 21:44:46 2005 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 21:44:46 +0000 Subject: Latest rawhide Up2date GUI Message-ID: <1116711886.3241.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Ok, with the latest below version of up2date, it FINALLY seems to work, almost! The two errors I see now, are if you select all and go to uncheck one of the packages, the forward button is no longer available (it fades out). Also, when it shows the progress bar and it's downloading headers to solve dependencies it is awfully slow (this is the one where after you select the packages, and click forward button), compared to running it via command line. up2date-gnome-4.4.23-3 up2date-4.4.23-3 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mike at netlyncs.com Sat May 21 21:47:59 2005 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 16:47:59 -0500 Subject: Acrobat 7 does not run in FC4 3.92 In-Reply-To: <1116664370.31259.18.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116664370.31259.18.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <1116712079.3241.7.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 18:32 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > root at chandana other]# rpm -ivh AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386.rpm > error: Failed dependencies: > libstdc++.so.5 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) is needed by > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > Is there a set of compatibility that can be installed to resolve this ? Try the compat-libstdc++ package in rawhide and see if that helps. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From rodd at clarkson.id.au Sat May 21 22:03:51 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 08:03:51 +1000 Subject: ATI drivers and FC4t3 Message-ID: <1116713031.3446.5.camel@goose> I know this isn't the place to discuss proprietary drivers, but I'm feeling envious as those NVIDIA guys stuggle with their card while there's no word regarding ATI cards Has anyone managed to get the ATI drivers working? I seem to remember something about problems with it not compiling with gcc4.0, but could be wrong. Rodd. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From rodd at clarkson.id.au Sat May 21 22:04:11 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 08:04:11 +1000 Subject: Acrobat 7 does not run in FC4 3.92 In-Reply-To: <1116712079.3241.7.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1116664370.31259.18.camel@chandana.dis> <1116712079.3241.7.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1116713051.3446.7.camel@goose> On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 16:47 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 18:32 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > > > root at chandana other]# rpm -ivh AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386.rpm > > error: Failed dependencies: > > libstdc++.so.5 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) is needed by > > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by > > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > > Is there a set of compatibility that can be installed to resolve this ? > > Try the compat-libstdc++ package in rawhide and see if that helps. Chandana, It's more than likely that Acrobat is still expecting to find gcc-3.2 libraries to work with. Since Fedora has moved to gcc-4.0, you'll (more than likely) need to add the libraries above to satisfy it's needs. I guess we can all expect a little of this with 3rd party software while others catch up with the compiler changes. Rodd -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Sat May 21 22:16:52 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 15:16:52 -0700 Subject: FC4T3 Test Report, ASUS K8N-DL Mobo(x86_64) Message-ID: <1116713812.6238.12.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Looks like I can get FC4T3 i386 to install on this machine thus far if I do a couple of things to the box. 1. Disable the NForce 4 PRO USB controller 2. Disable the NForce 4 PRO SATA controller 3. Connect all drives to the Silicon Image SATA RAID Controller Kind of a bummer about the USB controller, but there seems to be a serious issue with the sil_sata module under x86_64 that keeps the system from continuing past the formatting of the drives. It also looks like there are some issues with the PCI-E bus, but I need to investigate further. I am opening a few bugzilla entries on these problems. Normally, I would set these as critical, but it's really too late in the devel cycle to get 'em fixed. How would I recreate the ISO's for FC4T3 with all of the updates from rawhide to test as close as I can to the version that will really be released? Sean From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Sat May 21 22:49:24 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 15:49:24 -0700 Subject: FC4T3 Test Report, ASUS K8N-DL Mobo(x86_64) In-Reply-To: <1116713812.6238.12.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <1116713812.6238.12.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <1116715764.6238.13.camel@oscar.metro1.com> On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 15:16 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > Looks like I can get FC4T3 i386 to install on this machine thus far if I > do a couple of things to the box. > > 1. Disable the NForce 4 PRO USB controller > 2. Disable the NForce 4 PRO SATA controller > 3. Connect all drives to the Silicon Image SATA RAID Controller > > Kind of a bummer about the USB controller, but there seems to be a > serious issue with the sil_sata module under x86_64 that keeps the > system from continuing past the formatting of the drives. > > It also looks like there are some issues with the PCI-E bus, but I need > to investigate further. > > I am opening a few bugzilla entries on these problems. Normally, I > would set these as critical, but it's really too late in the devel cycle > to get 'em fixed. > > How would I recreate the ISO's for FC4T3 with all of the updates from > rawhide to test as close as I can to the version that will really be > released? > > Sean > Oh yeah. And the Broadcom ethernet adapter throws a kernel oops on install if you attempt to do a net install. Sean From alan at redhat.com Sat May 21 23:15:02 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 19:15:02 -0400 Subject: ATI drivers and FC4t3 In-Reply-To: <1116713031.3446.5.camel@goose> References: <1116713031.3446.5.camel@goose> Message-ID: <20050521231502.GA1027@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 08:03:51AM +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > Has anyone managed to get the ATI drivers working? The open source ones seem to work, including the R300 drivers although you'll need to get those from DRI CVS. From rodd at clarkson.id.au Sat May 21 23:19:19 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:19:19 +1000 Subject: ATI drivers and FC4t3 In-Reply-To: <20050521231502.GA1027@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1116713031.3446.5.camel@goose> <20050521231502.GA1027@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116717559.3446.11.camel@goose> On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 19:15 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 08:03:51AM +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > Has anyone managed to get the ATI drivers working? > > The open source ones seem to work, including the R300 drivers although you'll > need to get those from DRI CVS. Alan, I've got a: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] I'm currently using the open source drivers suppled with FC4t3, but they don't support 3D. Are you suggesting that the there's open source drivers that support 3D? If this is the case, where can I get these from to give them a try? Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Sun May 22 03:02:31 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 11:02:31 +0800 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> Message-ID: <9792751e05052120025640366b@mail.gmail.com> Why do they do top posting... simply because they use gmail to reply. fedora-test-list posters come from every place of the world and gmail is commonly used. On the contrary, other list may not have so many posters, and the posters use their formal email address instead of gmail. Often I think gmail should give an option to attach old message before/after the new one, and only attach one/two levels of old message. People who don't use gmail have a lot of control over this. And when they use a mail client instead of web interface, they carefully trim old messages before reply. .02 -- bbbush ^_^ From cra at WPI.EDU Sun May 22 03:48:51 2005 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck R. Anderson) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:48:51 -0400 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> Message-ID: <20050522034851.GN21947@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 11:15:15AM -0700, Darwin H. Webb wrote: > How about everyone just deal with reality and stop trying to control > others communication style. > Top posting to me takes into account the volume, time, and effort needed > to snip, scroll, and copy/paste of a 100 e-mail a day. > Get real. 2.5 seconds of trimming. I'd rather people not quote anything at all, than top post and leave the entire quoted message below it. Context can be gleaned from the thread structure. From russell at coker.com.au Sun May 22 06:25:01 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 16:25:01 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200505221625.05461.russell@coker.com.au> On Sunday 22 May 2005 04:58, John P Poet wrote: > I just tried to install Fedora Core 4T3, but it fails with: > ------------------------------------- > There was an error installing cracklib-dicts-2.8.2-1. This can > indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. > This is a fatal error and your install will be aborted. > ------------------------------------- > > I booted off the DVD with "linux jfs", so it would allow me to format > the root partion with jfs. There will be errors setting XATTRs when disk space runs out. Setting an XATTR to a value that hasn't previously been used or setting an instance of an xattr name/value combination that is congruent to 0 mod 1024 will result in allocating a new disk block and will fail if there is no free block. Anaconda is supposed to calculate the space needed for installation and refuse to install a combination of packages that will exceed the space. Maybe anaconda has the wrong idea about the amount of disk space required for JFS meta-data and will allow you to install what it thinks is 99% space usage which is really >100%. > I told it not to install SELinux. This is a bug then. If you tell it not to install SE Linux then it shouldn't set any xattrs. Did you tell it via "selinux=0" or via the GUI in anaconda? -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From arjanv at redhat.com Sun May 22 07:02:26 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:02:26 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116745347.6285.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> > I booted off the DVD with "linux jfs", so it would allow me to format > the root partion with jfs. please consider not using jfs instead. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since Fedora has moved to gcc-4.0, you'll (more > than likely) need to add the libraries above to satisfy it's needs. > I have Acrobat Reader 7 running on my FC4T3 system. You just need to install compat-libstdc++-33. Fred -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2875 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fedora at kjb.dds.nl Sun May 22 08:38:52 2005 From: fedora at kjb.dds.nl (Klaasjan Brand) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 10:38:52 +0200 Subject: ATI drivers and FC4t3 In-Reply-To: <1116717559.3446.11.camel@goose> References: <1116713031.3446.5.camel@goose> <20050521231502.GA1027@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1116717559.3446.11.camel@goose> Message-ID: <1116751132.3416.3.camel@isengard> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 09:19 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 19:15 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 08:03:51AM +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > > Has anyone managed to get the ATI drivers working? > > > > The open source ones seem to work, including the R300 drivers although you'll > > need to get those from DRI CVS. > > Alan, > > I've got a: > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] > > I'm currently using the open source drivers suppled with FC4t3, but they > don't support 3D. > > Are you suggesting that the there's open source drivers that support 3D? > If this is the case, where can I get these from to give them a try? http://r300.sf.net ...but it's not production ready yet. Klaasjan From buildsys at redhat.com Sun May 22 11:59:04 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 07:59:04 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050522 changes Message-ID: <200505221159.j4MBx4q7003407@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: (none) From dsavage at peaknet.net Sun May 22 12:05:20 2005 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 07:05:20 -0500 Subject: Openoffice.org update needed Message-ID: <1116763521.5700.8.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> An openoffice.org-core dependency on libjawt.so.6 is holding up the upgrade of the 18 gcc packages posted Friday night: # rpm -Fvh *4.0.0-8*rpm Warning: cpp=4.0.0-8.i386.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 4f2a6fd2 error: Failed dependencies: libjawt.so.6 is needed by (installed) openoffice.org-core-1.9.104-1.i386 -- Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p ** Bob Costas for Baseball Commissioner ** From JBuck814366460 at aol.com Sun May 22 12:41:01 2005 From: JBuck814366460 at aol.com (Jared Buck) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 05:41:01 -0700 Subject: Openoffice.org update needed In-Reply-To: <1116763521.5700.8.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <1116763521.5700.8.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <1116765662.4608.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 07:05 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > An openoffice.org-core dependency on libjawt.so.6 is holding up the > upgrade of the 18 gcc packages posted Friday night: > > # rpm -Fvh *4.0.0-8*rpm > Warning: cpp=4.0.0-8.i386.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 4f2a6fd2 > error: Failed dependencies: > libjawt.so.6 is needed by (installed) openoffice.org-core-1.9.104-1.i386 > > -- Doc > Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL > Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p > ** Bob Costas for Baseball Commissioner ** > you can download and get this package manually from the RPMFind repositories here: http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libjawt.so Make sure to download the right RPM for your system. I know it's a package of Java stuff, but you need everything in the RPM for OpenOffice.org to work. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun May 22 12:44:18 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:44:18 +0100 Subject: Openoffice.org update needed In-Reply-To: <1116765662.4608.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116763521.5700.8.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> <1116765662.4608.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116765859.5165.7.camel@localhost> Hi, > Make sure to download the right RPM for your system. I know it's a > package of Java stuff, but you need everything in the RPM for > OpenOffice.org to work. Don't. This is not a good idea for many reasons. If you want OOo 1.9.104 just exclude everything from gcc and it works fine. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Doc) Savage wrote: > > An openoffice.org-core dependency on libjawt.so.6 is holding up the > > upgrade of the 18 gcc packages posted Friday night: > > > > # rpm -Fvh *4.0.0-8*rpm > > Warning: cpp=4.0.0-8.i386.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 4f2a6fd2 > > error: Failed dependencies: > > libjawt.so.6 is needed by (installed) openoffice.org-core-1.9.104-1.i386 > > > > -- Doc > > Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL > > Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p > > ** Bob Costas for Baseball Commissioner ** > > > > you can download and get this package manually from the RPMFind > repositories here: > > http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libjawt.so > > Make sure to download the right RPM for your system. I know it's a > package of Java stuff, but you need everything in the RPM for > OpenOffice.org to work. Ah, I'd wouldn't really recommend doing this. Firstly, the whole point of running FC4testx is to test how the packages in FC4 will work together. It doesn't make a lot of sense to solved dependancy issues in FC4 by downloading packages from other distributions. Also, the problem here is that gcc changes that occurred last night just after openoffice.org was built made the build of openoffice.org incompatible with the builds of gcc. The fix for this should occur shortly, and in the meantime testers will just have to avoid upgrading to the newer version of gcc, or uninstall openoffice.org. For FC4, openoffice.org is being built using an open source implementation of Java (part of gcc) rather than having to rely on the Java runtimes environment from Sun (or elsewhere). This is in response to concerns that openoffice.org needs Java installed and that this can't being included as part of Fedora Core. R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From russell at coker.com.au Sun May 22 13:36:53 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 23:36:53 +1000 Subject: Bringing interfaces up at boot and SElinux (?) In-Reply-To: <428B3690.8000205@redhat.com> References: <1116243381.3353.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050516165136.GB5733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <428B3690.8000205@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200505222336.57249.russell@coker.com.au> On Wednesday 18 May 2005 22:35, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >The error is probably from SELinux; there's a ping in > > /sbin/dhclient-script when it times out. > > dhcpc should have the ability to ping. > domain_auto_trans(dhcpc_t, ping_exec_t, ping_t) The problem is that ping_t is not defined in the targeted policy. The attached patch will give dhcpc_t the access to do what it wants when there is no ping_t domain, it will work with both targeted and strict policy (tested on targeted). -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Current status is: http://r300.sourceforge.net/r300_dri.php Alan From akonstam at trinity.edu Sun May 22 14:14:34 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:14:34 -0500 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <9792751e05052120025640366b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> <9792751e05052120025640366b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050522141434.GA16087@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 11:02:31AM +0800, Yuan Yijun wrote: > Why do they do top posting... simply because they use gmail to reply. > fedora-test-list posters come from every place of the world and gmail > is commonly used. On the contrary, other list may not have so many > posters, and the posters use their formal email address instead of > gmail. Often I think gmail should give an option to attach old message > before/after the new one, and only attach one/two levels of old > message. People who don't use gmail have a lot of control over this. > And when they use a mail client instead of web interface, they > carefully trim old messages before reply. .02 > I tried it and I see no problem in bottom posting with gmail. It does take an extra stop of moving the cursor. But that does no seem onerous. ======================================================================= DISCLAIMER: Use of this advanced computing technology does not imply an endorsement of Western industrial civilization. ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From dwmw2 at infradead.org Sun May 22 16:55:19 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:55:19 +0100 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <20050522141434.GA16087@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> <9792751e05052120025640366b@mail.gmail.com> <20050522141434.GA16087@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116780920.19183.95.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 09:14 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > I tried it and I see no problem in bottom posting with gmail. It does > take an extra stop of moving the cursor. But that does no seem > onerous. It isn't onerous, I agree. In fact it's helpful since it assists you in the task of pruning those parts of the original message which you don't need to include in your reply. -- dwmw2 From overholt at redhat.com Sun May 22 17:06:57 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:06:57 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050519 changes In-Reply-To: References: <200505191536.j4JFa4wR025454@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050522170657.GA27042@redhat.com> * Justin Conover [2005-05-19 12:52]: > > Just curious of the M7 will be released/rebuilt before FC4 is out? We'd like to have it out, but there are a few issues that we're working out first. I hope the have everything sorted out today. Andrew From arjanv at redhat.com Sun May 22 18:00:07 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:00:07 +0200 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <20050522141434.GA16087@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> <9792751e05052120025640366b@mail.gmail.com> <20050522141434.GA16087@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116784807.6285.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 09:14 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > I tried it and I see no problem in bottom posting with gmail. It does > take an extra stop of moving the cursor. But that does no seem > onerous. "Top posting because the cursor happens to be there is like shitting in your pants because your ass happens to be there" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From trial at dresco.co.uk Sun May 22 18:09:25 2005 From: trial at dresco.co.uk (Jon Escombe) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: File Roller extract window always selects a sub-folder if present Message-ID: Have noticed this behaviour in FC4-test File Roller 2.10.0, which wasn't there in 2.8.1 When selecting a location to extract an archive, if there is already a sub-folder in this location, it will be highlighted by default and the archive will be extracted into the sub-folder. For example, if a new user extracts an archive, the extract window will default to the users home folder - but will also have selected the Desktop sub-folder as the destination (as it's the first sub-folder). The only way to extract directly to the home folder is to navigate to /home and hightlight the correct home folder in the file pane. Unless I'm missing the point and this is the desired behaviour? Regards, Jon Escombe. From martin at faltesek.net Sun May 22 18:23:54 2005 From: martin at faltesek.net (Martin) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:23:54 -0500 Subject: install freezes at performing post install configuration... Message-ID: <1116786234.30188.8.camel@desktop> Using today's latest rawhide, near the end of the install, the install freezes at " "performing post install configuration..." Looking at dmsg output, there seems to be a NULL pointer dereference at avc_audit+0x2b7/0xbe0. Not sure if that had anything to do with it though. I did disable selinux during install without any help. This is on a Sony vaio z1ra notebook. Haven't tried on other systems. Marty From m_epling at comcast.net Sun May 22 18:24:40 2005 From: m_epling at comcast.net (m_epling) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:24:40 -0500 Subject: File Roller extract window always selects a sub-folder if present In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4290CE68.90909@comcast.net> this is not unique of just fc 4 . ubuntu and outher distros of gnome 2.10 do this as well . its a gnome upgrade on Escombe wrote: >Have noticed this behaviour in FC4-test File Roller 2.10.0, which wasn't there >in 2.8.1 > >When selecting a location to extract an archive, if there is already a >sub-folder in this location, it will be highlighted by default and the archive >will be extracted into the sub-folder. > >For example, if a new user extracts an archive, the extract window will default >to the users home folder - but will also have selected the Desktop sub-folder as >the destination (as it's the first sub-folder). The only way to extract directly >to the home folder is to navigate to /home and hightlight the correct home >folder in the file pane. > >Unless I'm missing the point and this is the desired behaviour? > >Regards, >Jon Escombe. > > > > From jon780 at gmail.com Sun May 22 18:59:02 2005 From: jon780 at gmail.com (Jon 780) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:59:02 -0500 Subject: Problems starting samba ... Message-ID: FC4test3 x86_64 [root at nb01 ~]# service smb start Starting SMB services: /etc/init.d/functions: line 83: 3591 Aborted $nice $* [FAILED] Starting NMB services: [ OK ] Line83 in "functions" : daemon() { Its just the first line of the definition for the daemon function. It actually appears to be bombing out right here (line 146): # And start it up. if [ -z "$user" ]; then $nice $* If I comment out the "$nice $*" line it starts up without a hiccup. I'm not very famaliar with nice or shell scripting, so I'd definitely be interested in hearing what the problem is (or more specifically, what I'm doing wrong!). Thanks guys, love FC4. jon From cimmo at libero.it Sun May 22 19:02:58 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:02:58 +0200 Subject: rawhide report: 20050522 changes In-Reply-To: <200505221159.j4MBx4q7003407@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200505221159.j4MBx4q7003407@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4290D762.7030300@libero.it> Build System ha scritto: > > > >Updated Packages: > >*(none)* > > Yeah! A fixed script :) From terraformers at gmail.com Sun May 22 20:03:36 2005 From: terraformers at gmail.com (Lars G) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:03:36 +0200 Subject: a gconf keys question Message-ID: hi all i have an apps, desktop, schemas, system dir in /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults. looking in the schemas dir there is again an apps, desktop and system dir. so whats the purpose of this extra schemas dir? cheers lars From M.M.vanPaassen at lr.tudelft.nl Sun May 22 20:08:21 2005 From: M.M.vanPaassen at lr.tudelft.nl (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= van Paassen) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:08:21 +0200 Subject: usb disks?? Automounting on /media once, slow writing Message-ID: <1116792502.21365.1.camel@pascua.localdomain> Inserted a usb 2.0 disk, and the thing duly shows up on /media/usbdisk However, writing was painfully slow, order of 100 kB/s Tried a second disk, this one would not automount. After manually mounting it (/dev/sde1) it ran well, with normal writing speed. Inserted the original disk again, and would not automount. After manual mount (/dev/sde this time) it also ran well. uname -a Linux pascua.localdomain 2.6.11-1.1323_FC4 #1 Thu May 19 03:23:12 EDT 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Hardware is Athlon 64, with pieces from /proc/usb/devices: T: Bus=04 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06 S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.11-1.1323_FC4 uhci_hcd S: Product=UHCI Host Controller S: SerialNumber=0000:00:10.2 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms T: Bus=04 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 3 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=10d6 ProdID=1100 Rev= 1.00 S: Product=USB 2.0(FS) FLASH DISK S: SerialNumber=USB 2.0(FS) FLASH DISK C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=100mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=05 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage E: Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms BTW, FC4 looks great. My only remaining concern for x86_64 is how to get a shockwave flash and a java plugin installed Greetings, Ren? From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun May 22 20:55:27 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:55:27 +0200 Subject: usb disks?? Automounting on /media once, slow writing In-Reply-To: <1116792502.21365.1.camel@pascua.localdomain> References: <1116792502.21365.1.camel@pascua.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116795327.4322.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> s?n, 22.05.2005 kl. 22.08 skrev Ren? van Paassen: > Inserted a usb 2.0 disk, and the thing duly shows up on /media/usbdisk > However, writing was painfully slow, order of 100 kB/s > > Tried a second disk, this one would not automount. After manually > mounting it (/dev/sde1) it ran well, with normal writing speed. > > Inserted the original disk again, and would not automount. After manual > mount (/dev/sde this time) it also ran well. > > uname -a > Linux pascua.localdomain 2.6.11-1.1323_FC4 #1 Thu May 19 03:23:12 EDT > 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Hardware is Athlon 64, with pieces from /proc/usb/devices: > > T: Bus=04 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 > B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 > D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 > P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06 > S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.11-1.1323_FC4 uhci_hcd > S: Product=UHCI Host Controller > S: SerialNumber=0000:00:10.2 > C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA > I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub > E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms > > T: Bus=04 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 3 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 > D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 > P: Vendor=10d6 ProdID=1100 Rev= 1.00 > S: Product=USB 2.0(FS) FLASH DISK > S: SerialNumber=USB 2.0(FS) FLASH DISK > C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=100mA > I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=05 Prot=50 > Driver=usb-storage > E: Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms > E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms > > BTW, FC4 looks great. My only remaining concern for x86_64 is how to get > a shockwave flash and a java plugin installed Use i386 firefox. You can get it of the i386 repo, please keep it up2date yourself. Kyrre From terraformers at gmail.com Sun May 22 20:59:12 2005 From: terraformers at gmail.com (Lars G) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:59:12 +0200 Subject: a gconf keys question References: Message-ID: On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:03:36 +0200, Lars G wrote: > hi all > > i have an apps, desktop, schemas, system dir in > /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults. > > looking in the schemas dir there is again an > apps, desktop and system dir. > so whats the purpose of this extra schemas dir? > > > cheers > lars ok, reading now http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf gives some answers ;) lars From michal at harddata.com Sun May 22 21:25:30 2005 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 15:25:30 -0600 Subject: usb disks?? Automounting on /media once, slow writing In-Reply-To: <1116792502.21365.1.camel@pascua.localdomain>; from M.M.vanPaassen@lr.tudelft.nl on Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:08:21PM +0200 References: <1116792502.21365.1.camel@pascua.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050522152530.A1031@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Ren? van Paassen wrote: > Inserted a usb 2.0 disk, and the thing duly shows up on /media/usbdisk > However, writing was painfully slow, order of 100 kB/s That is most likely because hal is mounting removable USB devices with 'sync' option. Personally I think that this is insane and will cause numerous complaints and claims that Linux is extremely slow but this is supposed to be "idiot-proof". Mounting sync is really bad for a writing speed, and likely quite bad for "USB sticks" even if they do "wear levelling" in a reasonable way, but gives you a fighting chance that you did not screwed up your data and/or a file system on that device if you pulled it out without unmounting first. Mind you - only a chance and very far from guarantees. Of course if you will kill your USB memory stick in the process this is not much of a gain. There is some possibility that you can change that policy on your machine if you will be able to figure out how - which is hard to call "documented". > Tried a second disk, this one would not automount. After manually > mounting it (/dev/sde1) it ran well, with normal writing speed. A default for mount is 'async' so you will see what you see unless you asked otherwise. > Inserted the original disk again, and would not automount. After manual > mount (/dev/sde this time) it also ran well. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=158482 I guess that this is the same issue. Maybe even the same as 156167 but I really do not know. Michal From louisg00 at bellsouth.net Sun May 22 21:33:08 2005 From: louisg00 at bellsouth.net (Louis Garcia) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:33:08 -0400 Subject: new mail applet Message-ID: <1116797588.15690.2.camel@tiger> What happen to the gnome new mail applet in FC4? -Louis From david at fubar.dk Sun May 22 21:37:00 2005 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:37:00 -0400 Subject: usb disks?? Automounting on /media once, slow writing In-Reply-To: <20050522152530.A1031@mail.harddata.com> References: <1116792502.21365.1.camel@pascua.localdomain> <20050522152530.A1031@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1116797820.4272.19.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 15:25 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Ren? van Paassen wrote: > > Inserted a usb 2.0 disk, and the thing duly shows up on /media/usbdisk > > However, writing was painfully slow, order of 100 kB/s > > That is most likely because hal is mounting removable USB devices > with 'sync' option. Personally I think that this is insane and > will cause numerous complaints and claims that Linux is extremely > slow but this is supposed to be "idiot-proof". > > Mounting sync is really bad for a writing speed, and likely quite > bad for "USB sticks" even if they do "wear levelling" in a > reasonable way, but gives you a fighting chance that you did not > screwed up your data and/or a file system on that device if you > pulled it out without unmounting first. Mind you - only a chance > and very far from guarantees. Of course if you will kill your USB > memory stick in the process this is not much of a gain. > > There is some possibility that you can change that policy on your > machine if you will be able to figure out how - which is hard to > call "documented". > The next build will not use the 'sync' option, mainly because of performance reasons (now that O_SYNC works for vfat). See also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157674 > > Tried a second disk, this one would not automount. After manually > > mounting it (/dev/sde1) it ran well, with normal writing speed. > > A default for mount is 'async' so you will see what you see unless > you asked otherwise. > > > Inserted the original disk again, and would not automount. After manual > > mount (/dev/sde this time) it also ran well. This is due to a kernel bug which mixes up the order of hotplug events and does other things that confuse userland in interesting ways. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156167 David From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 22 21:59:54 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 23:59:54 +0200 Subject: new mail applet In-Reply-To: <1116797588.15690.2.camel@tiger> References: <1116797588.15690.2.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <429100DA.8050500@gmx.de> Louis Garcia wrote: >What happen to the gnome new mail applet in FC4? > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2005-May/msg00766.html Fedora Extras, mail-notification. Preferences | More Preferences | Mail Notification. Runs in the Notification Area. afair it disappears if no mail is in the inbox. -- shrek-m From jppoet at gmail.com Sun May 22 22:13:31 2005 From: jppoet at gmail.com (John P Poet) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 16:13:31 -0600 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <200505221625.05461.russell@coker.com.au> References: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> <200505221625.05461.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <2c2a4e2505052215137d0c50ec@mail.gmail.com> On 5/22/05, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sunday 22 May 2005 04:58, John P Poet wrote: > > I just tried to install Fedora Core 4T3, but it fails with: > > ------------------------------------- > > There was an error installing cracklib-dicts-2.8.2-1. This can > > indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. > > This is a fatal error and your install will be aborted. > > ------------------------------------- > > > > I booted off the DVD with "linux jfs", so it would allow me to format > > the root partion with jfs. > > There will be errors setting XATTRs when disk space runs out. Setting an > XATTR to a value that hasn't previously been used or setting an instance of > an xattr name/value combination that is congruent to 0 mod 1024 will result > in allocating a new disk block and will fail if there is no free block. > > Anaconda is supposed to calculate the space needed for installation and refuse > to install a combination of packages that will exceed the space. Maybe > anaconda has the wrong idea about the amount of disk space required for JFS > meta-data and will allow you to install what it thinks is 99% space usage > which is really >100%. I told it to format the "root" partition with JFS. The partition in question is 10gig, so it should have had plenty of space. That also seemed to be the first package it tried to install. > > I told it not to install SELinux. > > This is a bug then. If you tell it not to install SE Linux then it shouldn't > set any xattrs. Did you tell it via "selinux=0" or via the GUI in anaconda? Using the GUI in anaconda. I reproduced the problem three times before posting. I finally told it to format the root partition with XFS instead of JFS, and then it worked fine. It looks to me like there is a problem using JFS with Fedora Core 4T3. John From jppoet at gmail.com Sun May 22 22:15:16 2005 From: jppoet at gmail.com (John P Poet) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 16:15:16 -0600 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <1116745347.6285.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> <1116745347.6285.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <2c2a4e25050522151528556458@mail.gmail.com> On 5/22/05, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > I booted off the DVD with "linux jfs", so it would allow me to format > > the root partion with jfs. > > please consider not using jfs instead. Indeed, XFS works fine. Is it documented somewhere that JFS does not work with Fedora Core? Maybe installing/booting with "linux jfs" should be disabled? Thanks, John From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Sun May 22 22:49:12 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:49:12 +0200 Subject: Evolution Outbox -> Sent Problem In-Reply-To: <1116624142.18066.18.camel@kn.home.geekystuff.net> References: <1116624142.18066.18.camel@kn.home.geekystuff.net> Message-ID: <1116802152.5686.2.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 17:22 -0400, Ken Nordquist wrote: > I just noticed that when I send email, the email does not move from the > Outbox folder to the Sent folder. I am running Evolution 2.2.2-5 on the > 1312 build of the x86_64 kernel. I noticed the same problem with the > 1305 kernel as well (though I am pretty sure it is not a kernel issue). > > Has anyone else experienced this problem or know of a solution? I have seen an error message twice that said something like "some imap error, can't save this sent messsage to imap sent folder, saving to local sent folder instead". Messages I just sent did not have that effect and where nicely put in the imap sent folder. No idea where it came from and seems to have disappeared. Regards, Patrick From thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net Sun May 22 23:50:50 2005 From: thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net (Darwin H. Webb) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 16:50:50 -0700 Subject: OO1.9...100 & 104 Message-ID: <1116805850.3745.15.camel@Jovette-14> Using OO 2. beta The pages range under print does not work. Prints first page and quits. If someone can verify this then I'll look on the bug report and report or add a comment. eggcups (cups) ghost-script to shared printer on Windows XP SP2 HP MP5 ps level 2. Normal print works, print preview "multiple pages up" works. example ranges used. pages 2-3 pages 3-4 pages 1-3 Darwin From khuffenb at gmail.com Mon May 23 02:10:52 2005 From: khuffenb at gmail.com (Kevin Huffenberger) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:10:52 -0400 Subject: Trying to fix 8139too driver problems Message-ID: I'm trying to install linux on a hp zv6000 laptop. (Note to self: never again try to install on brand new hardware.) I have tried several distros, Fedora Core 4 test3 is working best, but the networking is working only sporadically. Network seems to work okay in FC1 and Ubuntu 5.04. I get "link up" but "transmit timed out" errors, so I suspect some driver conflict or misconfiguration. I rarely can get a dchp lease, but not usually. I have included below the results of lspci, ifconfig, dmesg, rtl8139-diag, etc. I have no idea how to debug this kind of problem. Any input that can help me track this down would be greatly appreciated. ---Kevin -------------------------------------- [root at localhost ~]# uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 #1 Thu May 19 21:14:20 EDT 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [root at localhost ~]# /sbin/lspci -s 03:06.0 -vvvv 03:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 3085 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- ] Not tainted VLI EFLAGS: 00010246 (2.6.11-1.1329_FC4) EIP is at avc_audit+0x2e9/0xbee eax: c0ec65b0 ebx: 00000008 ecx: c0390491 edx: 00000000 esi: c82daf0c edi: 00000008 ebp: c57a8aa0 esp: c82dae6c ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Process ping (pid: 7666, threadinfo=c82da000 task=c57a8aa0) Stack: c61b8200 c039048c c03861bb c0ccd3f0 c9d0ecec c9d0ed04 cd6a73ac cd6a73ac 00db3c10 caa25e7c c11ab320 0011cc24 00000236 00000236 00000011 00000008 c61b8200 00000008 cd69c00c 00000236 00000236 00000011 c0168307 00000000 Call Trace: [] handle_mm_fault+0x1f9/0x322 [] poison_obj+0x20/0x3d [] avc_has_perm+0x4e/0x5a [] selinux_socket_create+0x44/0x127 [] __sock_create+0x6b/0x1dd [] sock_create+0x18/0x1d [] sys_socket+0x1c/0x44 [] sys_socketcall+0x84/0x290 [] do_syscall_trace+0xef/0x123 [] syscall_call+0x7/0xb Code: 3f fe ff ff 8b 94 24 9c 00 00 00 8b 42 08 89 44 24 08 c7 44 24 04 a8 04 39 c0 8b 4c 24 40 89 0c 24 e8 85 a5 f5 ff e9 18 fe ff ff 04 00 00 00 85 c0 0f 84 ef fd ff ff 8b 80 98 00 00 00 85 c0 <6>eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1 ----------------------- Results of diagnostic programs [root at localhost 8139_diagnostic]# ./rtl8139-diag -aaf rtl8139-diag.c:v2.13 2/28/2005 Donald Becker (becker at scyld.com) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a RealTek RTL8139 adapter at 0xa000. RealTek chip registers at 0xa000 0x000: 6eb00f00 0000f703 a0000000 40000000 0008a156 00002000 00002000 00002000 0x020: 04c0c000 04c0c600 04c0cc00 04c0d200 05090000 0c0a0000 029cfff0 0005c07f 0x040: 77400680 0000f78e 3c3744f9 00000000 008d1000 00000000 00a8c110 00100000 0x060: 1100100f 01e1782d 000141e1 00000000 00000704 000107c8 60f60c59 7b732660.Realtek station address 00:0f:b0:6e:03:f7, chip type 'rtl8139C'. Receiver configuration: Normal unicast and hashed multicast Rx FIFO threshold 2048 bytes, maximum burst 2048 bytes, 32KB ring Transmitter enabled with NONSTANDARD! settings, maximum burst 1024 bytes. Tx entry #0 status 0008a156 complete, 342 bytes. Tx entry #1 status 00002000 incomplete, 0 bytes. Tx entry #2 status 00002000 incomplete, 0 bytes. Tx entry #3 status 00002000 incomplete, 0 bytes. Flow control: Tx disabled Rx disabled. The chip configuration is 0x10 0x8d, MII half-duplex mode. Interrupt sources are pending. Rx Complete indication. Transmit OK indication. [root at localhost 8139_diagnostic]# ./rtl8139-diag -ee rtl8139-diag.c:v2.13 2/28/2005 Donald Becker (becker at scyld.com) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a RealTek RTL8139 adapter at 0xa000. Realtek station address 00:0f:b0:6e:03:f7, chip type 'rtl8139C'. Receiver configuration: Reception disabled Rx FIFO threshold 16 bytes, maximum burst 16 bytes, 8KB ring Transmitter disabled with normal settings, maximum burst 16 bytes. Flow control: Tx disabled Rx disabled. The chip configuration is 0x10 0x8d, MII half-duplex mode. Interrupt sources are pending. Rx Complete indication. Transmit OK indication. Decoded EEPROM contents: PCI IDs -- Vendor 0x10ec, Device 0x8139. PCI Subsystem IDs -- Vendor 0x103c, Device 0x3085. PCI timer settings -- minimum grant 32, maximum latency 64. General purpose pins -- direction 0xe1 value 0x1e. Station Address 00:0F:B0:6E:03:F7. Configuration register 0/1 -- 0x8d / 0xc2. EEPROM active region checksum is 093d. EEPROM contents (64 words): 0x00: 8129 10ec 8139 103c 3085 4020 e11e 0f00 0x08: 6eb0 f703 8d10 f7c2 a801 43b9 a0f2 071a 0x10: df43 8a36 df43 8a36 43b9 a0f2 1111 1111 0x18: 0000 23a9 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1800 0x20: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ... [root at localhost 8139_diagnostic]# ./rtl8139-diag -mm rtl8139-diag.c:v2.13 2/28/2005 Donald Becker (becker at scyld.com) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a RealTek RTL8139 adapter at 0xa000. Realtek station address 00:0f:b0:6e:03:f7, chip type 'rtl8139C'. Receiver configuration: Reception disabled Rx FIFO threshold 16 bytes, maximum burst 16 bytes, 8KB ring Transmitter disabled with normal settings, maximum burst 16 bytes. Flow control: Tx disabled Rx disabled. The chip configuration is 0x10 0x8d, MII half-duplex mode. Interrupt sources are pending. Rx Complete indication. Transmit OK indication. The RTL8139 does not use a MII transceiver. It does have internal MII-compatible registers: Basic mode control register 0x1100. Basic mode status register 0x782d. Autonegotiation Advertisement 0x01e1. Link Partner Ability register 0x41e1. Autonegotiation expansion 0x0001. Disconnects 0x0000. False carrier sense counter 0x0000. NWay test register 0x0704. Receive frame error count 0x0000. libmii.c:v2.11 2/28/2005 Donald Becker (becker at scyld.com) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html MII PHY #32 transceiver registers: 1100 782d 0000 0000 01e1 41e1 0001 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000. Basic mode control register 0x1100: Auto-negotiation enabled. Basic mode status register 0x782d ... 782d. Link status: established. Capable of 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx 10baseT-FD 10baseT. Able to perform Auto-negotiation, negotiation complete. This transceiver has no vendor identification. I'm advertising 01e1: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx 10baseT-FD 10baseT Advertising no additional info pages. IEEE 802.3 CSMA/CD protocol. Link partner capability is 41e1: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx 10baseT-FD 10baseT. Negotiation completed. From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Mon May 23 02:34:18 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:34:18 +0800 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116780920.19183.95.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> <9792751e05052120025640366b@mail.gmail.com> <20050522141434.GA16087@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116780920.19183.95.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <9792751e05052219346aad23d4@mail.gmail.com> 2005/5/23, David Woodhouse : > It isn't onerous, I agree. In fact it's helpful since it assists you in > the task of pruning those parts of the original message which you don't > need to include in your reply. > > -- > dwmw2 > > a good point. thanks. -- bbbush ^_^ From davej at redhat.com Mon May 23 02:37:26 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:37:26 -0400 Subject: Trying to fix 8139too driver problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050523023725.GA27370@redhat.com> On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:10:52PM -0400, Kevin Huffenberger wrote: > Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004 > printing eip: > c01f31df > *pde = 00f56067 > Oops: 0000 [#38] > Modules linked in: joydev parport_pc lp parport autofs4 rfcomm l2cap > bluetooth sunrpc pcmcia ipt_REJECT ipt_state ip_conntrack > iptable_filter ip_tables video button battery ac md5 ipv6 yenta_socket > rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core ohci_hcd ehci_hcd shpchp snd_atiixp > snd_ac97_codec snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq > snd_seq_device snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd > soundcore snd_page_alloc 8139too mii dm_snapshot dm_zero dm_mirror > ext3 jbd dm_mod > CPU: 0 > EIP: 0060:[] Not tainted VLI > EFLAGS: 00010246 (2.6.11-1.1329_FC4) > EIP is at avc_audit+0x2e9/0xbee This should be fixed in the latest builds. (You can always find the latest kernel builds at http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/ Right now rawhide is lagging a day or so from the latest build as the builds need to be moved across by hand.. Dave From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon May 23 02:38:14 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:38:14 -0500 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <1116784807.6285.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <428A8250.8050100@libero.it> <1116608950.5999.20.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com> <1116612915.14563.17.camel@Jovette-14> <9792751e05052120025640366b@mail.gmail.com> <20050522141434.GA16087@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116784807.6285.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: On 5/22/05, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > "Top posting because the cursor happens to be there is like shitting in > your pants because your ass happens to be there" That was about the funniest thing I've read all day. Can we stop this long and irritating thread! I'm just glad gmail keeps most post in single file. From ttaranov at gmail.com Mon May 23 02:50:40 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:50:40 -0400 Subject: software(kernel)-based PCI memhole remap in FC4_test3 Message-ID: here is the deal - I downloaded and installed fc4 test3 on my machine (2x246 opterons, Tyan S2895 mobo, 4x1G ECC ram, nvidia 6600gt 16x pci-express, SATA drive etc). Running the default kernel ...1286_FC4smp for x86_64 build. If I enable software-based PCI mem hole remapping in my mobo's bios then my workstation completely freezes after opening 1 or 2 web pages in Firefox or any other bundled browser in KDE, Gnome (that the first thing I noticed, there most likely are a bunch of other OS problems). If this bios setting is set to disabled then no problems, however then Linux does not see the full 4 gigs of my ram due to the PCI bus map (linux does see the full 4gigs if I set the memhole remap to be "software"-based). Anyone else is having the same issues with software-based PCI memhole remap? From davej at redhat.com Mon May 23 02:55:26 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:55:26 -0400 Subject: software(kernel)-based PCI memhole remap in FC4_test3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050523025526.GC27370@redhat.com> On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:50:40PM -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > here is the deal - I downloaded and installed fc4 test3 on my machine > (2x246 opterons, Tyan S2895 mobo, 4x1G ECC ram, nvidia 6600gt 16x > pci-express, SATA drive etc). Running the default kernel > ...1286_FC4smp for x86_64 build. > > If I enable software-based PCI mem hole remapping in my mobo's bios > then my workstation completely freezes after opening 1 or 2 web pages > in Firefox or any other bundled browser in KDE, Gnome (that the first > thing I noticed, there most likely are a bunch of other OS problems). > If this bios setting is set to disabled then no problems, however then > Linux does not see the full 4 gigs of my ram due to the PCI bus map > (linux does see the full 4gigs if I set the memhole remap to be > "software"-based). Anyone else is having the same issues with > software-based PCI memhole remap? There have been a large number of x86-64 updates in the last few days. Try out the latest kernel at http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/ Dave From ttaranov at gmail.com Mon May 23 04:22:57 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:22:57 -0400 Subject: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? Message-ID: Hi - I don't really know how the fedora build cycle works but is there any chance the follwing driver patch could be included into FC4? http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.12-rc4/2.6.12-rc4-mm2/broken-out/areca-raid-linux-scsi-driver.patch It's kindof a bugger for me to have to recompile it every time just because I want it in the OS... Thanks, Tim From jkeating at j2solutions.net Mon May 23 04:41:17 2005 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:41:17 -0700 Subject: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116823277.2955.0.camel@yoda.loki.me> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 00:22 -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > I don't really know how the fedora build cycle works but is there any > chance the follwing driver patch could be included into FC4? > > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.12-rc4/2.6.12-rc4-mm2/broken-out/areca-raid-linux-scsi-driver.patch > > It's kindof a bugger for me to have to recompile it every time just > because I want it in the OS... It needs to be come part of the main kernel. Only then will it be included into Fedora proper. There must be a reason it's been 'broken-out'.... -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating From ttaranov at gmail.com Mon May 23 04:46:18 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:46:18 -0400 Subject: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? In-Reply-To: <1116823277.2955.0.camel@yoda.loki.me> References: <1116823277.2955.0.camel@yoda.loki.me> Message-ID: the mm patch is broken out into pieces so that it's easier to apply it selectively, if need it (and not that the driver is "broken" somehow, if that's what you imply - it's the latest vendor certified driver that works just fine). Anyway, I was just checking... I guess I'm then stuck having to recompile my kernel anytime I want to patch it. kinda sux. On 5/23/05, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 00:22 -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > > I don't really know how the fedora build cycle works but is there any > > chance the follwing driver patch could be included into FC4? > > > > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.12-rc4/2.6.12-rc4-mm2/broken-out/areca-raid-linux-scsi-driver.patch > > > > It's kindof a bugger for me to have to recompile it every time just > > because I want it in the OS... > > It needs to be come part of the main kernel. Only then will it be > included into Fedora proper. There must be a reason it's been > 'broken-out'.... > > -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) > GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > > Was I helpful? Let others know: > http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From kapointer at charter.net Mon May 23 05:03:43 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:03:43 -0500 Subject: File Roller extract window always selects a sub-folder if present In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116824624.9223.2.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 18:09 +0000, Jon Escombe wrote: > Have noticed this behaviour in FC4-test File Roller 2.10.0, which wasn't there > in 2.8.1 > > When selecting a location to extract an archive, if there is already a > sub-folder in this location, it will be highlighted by default and the archive > will be extracted into the sub-folder. > > For example, if a new user extracts an archive, the extract window will default > to the users home folder - but will also have selected the Desktop sub-folder as > the destination (as it's the first sub-folder). The only way to extract directly > to the home folder is to navigate to /home and hightlight the correct home > folder in the file pane. > > Unless I'm missing the point and this is the desired behaviour? > > Regards, > Jon Escombe. > > > I think that this issue is a GNOME wide issue. Anything that uses GNOME's file-selection dialog tends to do this. Eg. When selecting where to save a file in Mozilla Firefox it will automagicly select a folder. This is somewhat irritating even if you can go in and manually select a folder... Its more of a usability thing than a major problem, but it is a PITA. -- kyle From kapointer at charter.net Mon May 23 05:05:54 2005 From: kapointer at charter.net (Kyle Pointer) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:05:54 -0500 Subject: new mail applet In-Reply-To: <1116797588.15690.2.camel@tiger> References: <1116797588.15690.2.camel@tiger> Message-ID: <1116824754.9223.5.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 17:33 -0400, Louis Garcia wrote: > What happen to the gnome new mail applet in FC4? > > -Louis > > It was replaced by mail-notification because the panel applet was insecure and not maintained. If you want it use, # yum install mail-notification Then it will have a control application somewhere in preferences. Its quite different from the old applet but I find that once you learn how it works it is a lot more useful. You can use more than one mailbox! :-D -- kyle From mpeters at mac.com Mon May 23 05:07:20 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:07:20 -0700 Subject: install freezes at performing post install configuration... In-Reply-To: <1116786234.30188.8.camel@desktop> References: <1116786234.30188.8.camel@desktop> Message-ID: <1116824840.3071.8.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 13:23 -0500, Martin wrote: > Using today's latest rawhide, near > the end of the install, the install freezes at " > "performing post install configuration..." > > Looking at dmsg output, there seems to be a NULL pointer > dereference at avc_audit+0x2b7/0xbe0. Not sure if that > had anything to do with it though. I did disable selinux > during install without any help. > > This is on a Sony vaio z1ra notebook. Haven't tried on > other systems. Same thing on today's (5/22) PPC rawhide (mac) I had an Oops in my dmesg audit(1116797114.794:0): avc: denied { read } for name=config dev=dm-0 ino=43 78533 scontext=system_u:system_r:kudzu_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:selinux_conf ig_t tclass=file audit(1116797114.794:0): avc: denied { getattr } for path="/etc/selinux/confi g" dev=dm-0 ino=4378533 scontext=system_u:system_r:kudzu_t tcontext=system_u:obj ect_r:selinux_config_t tclass=file audit(1116797115.062:0): avc: denied { append } for name=null dev=tmpfs ino=4 92 scontext=system_u:system_r:kudzu_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:tmpfs_t tclass= chr_file Oops: kernel access of bad area, sig: 11 [#2] NIP: C012C3E0 LR: C012C240 SP: CDD71DE0 REGS: cdd71d30 TRAP: 0300 Not tainted MSR: 00009032 EE: 1 PR: 0 FP: 0 ME: 1 IR/DR: 11 DAR: 00000004, DSISR: 40000000 TASK = c1612c70[8533] 'consolehelper-g' THREAD: cdd70000 Last syscall: 102 GPR00: C012C240 CDD71DE0 C1612C70 00000005 00000005 C033BDE0 CDD71DD0 CDD71D68 GPR08: C0355ADD C5B7F346 00000041 00000046 24444448 1001F248 00000000 7F8E75A4 GPR16: 24422442 7F8E76B4 7F8E76B0 00000000 000001C0 000001C0 C1612C70 00000000 GPR24: C03899F8 C0350000 CCC34DA0 00400000 00000020 00000000 00000000 0000000F NIP [c012c3e0] avc_audit+0x380/0x9d0 LR [c012c240] avc_audit+0x1e0/0x9d0 Call trace: [c012ca80] avc_has_perm+0x50/0x70 [c0132d20] selinux_socket_create+0x40/0x150 [c028ab50] __sock_create+0x80/0x290 [c028bc88] sys_socket+0x18/0x70 [c028c924] sys_socketcall+0x114/0x200 [c0004820] ret_from_syscall+0x0/0x44 audit(1116797121.838:0): avc: denied { unlink } for name=modprobe.conf~ dev=d m-0 ino=4378058 scontext=system_u:system_r:kudzu_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:fi le_t tclass=file audit(1116797121.867:0): avc: denied { write } for name=run dev=dm-0 ino=2679 139 scontext=system_u:system_r:kudzu_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:var_run_t tcla ss=dir audit(1116797121.868:0): avc: denied { add_name } for name=Xconfig-failed sco ntext=system_u:system_r:kudzu_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:var_run_t tclass=dir audit(1116797121.868:0): avc: denied { create } for name=Xconfig-failed scont ext=system_u:system_r:kudzu_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:var_run_t tclass=file audit(1116799345.261:0): avc: denied { associate } for name=dmesg.txt scontex t=system_u:object_r:root_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:root_t tclass=filesystem [mpeters at laptop ppc]$ (that's the end of the output of dmesg - which I scp'd to a box that works) From m_epling at comcast.net Mon May 23 05:14:27 2005 From: m_epling at comcast.net (amazing powers of observbation) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:14:27 -0500 Subject: File Roller extract window always selects a sub-folder if present In-Reply-To: <1116824624.9223.2.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> References: <1116824624.9223.2.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> Message-ID: <429166B3.8020704@comcast.net> Kyle Pointer wrote: >On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 18:09 +0000, Jon Escombe wrote: > > >>Have noticed this behaviour in FC4-test File Roller 2.10.0, which wasn't there >>in 2.8.1 >> >>When selecting a location to extract an archive, if there is already a >>sub-folder in this location, it will be highlighted by default and the archive >>will be extracted into the sub-folder. >> >>For example, if a new user extracts an archive, the extract window will default >>to the users home folder - but will also have selected the Desktop sub-folder as >>the destination (as it's the first sub-folder). The only way to extract directly >>to the home folder is to navigate to /home and hightlight the correct home >>folder in the file pane. >> >>Unless I'm missing the point and this is the desired behaviour? >> >>Regards, >>Jon Escombe. >> >> >> >> >> > >I think that this issue is a GNOME wide issue. Anything that uses >GNOME's file-selection dialog tends to do this. >Eg. When selecting where to save a file in Mozilla Firefox it will >automagicly select a folder. This is somewhat irritating even if you can >go in and manually select a folder... >Its more of a usability thing than a major problem, but it is a PITA. >-- kyle > > > it is a desired effect . you don t have to create a destination folder it does this automaticly . its a but in macro ...it saves a step . you will get use to it . it is a gnome wide issue and an improvement to the desktop From arjanv at redhat.com Mon May 23 06:15:52 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:15:52 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <2c2a4e25050522151528556458@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> <1116745347.6285.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <2c2a4e25050522151528556458@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050523061552.GA4090@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 04:15:16PM -0600, John P Poet wrote: > On 5/22/05, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > I booted off the DVD with "linux jfs", so it would allow me to format > > > the root partion with jfs. > > > > please consider not using jfs instead. > > Indeed, XFS works fine. Is it documented somewhere that JFS does not > work with Fedora Core? Maybe installing/booting with "linux jfs" > should be disabled? "linux jfs" isn't documented afaik. The simple situation is that ext3 is basically all we really support and test, the rest may or may not work. Is there a reason you want to use JFS ? (ext3 in fc3/fc4 is pretty competative with any of the other filesystems on just about every workload performance wise... the benchmarks I've seen from others hardly ever put JFS on top for anything nowadays so JFS strikes me as a bit of an odd choice) From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 23 06:22:58 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 07:22:58 +0100 Subject: OO1.9...100 & 104 In-Reply-To: <1116805850.3745.15.camel@Jovette-14> References: <1116805850.3745.15.camel@Jovette-14> Message-ID: <1116829378.17792.12.camel@localhost> Hi, > The pages range under print does not work. > Prints first page and quits. > > If someone can verify this then I'll look on the bug report and report > or add a comment. > > eggcups (cups) ghost-script to shared printer on Windows XP SP2 HP MP5 > ps level 2. > > Normal print works, print preview "multiple pages up" works. > > example ranges used. > > pages 2-3 > pages 3-4 > pages 1-3 Can't say I've seen that printing directly to a printer connected to the PC - both work happily at this end. Do you get this problem if you're using other apps (say Gnumeric or KOffice) and try to print a number of pages rather than everything? Before you feed it into bugzilla, run the app through gdb (or ddd) and copy the throwback from it - but make sure you have the OOo debug symbols rpm installed! TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Any even for large ISP mailservers xfs and reiserfs are still huge wins over ext3. Also our 'totally corrupt filesystems' statistics are much higher on ext3 than reiserfs so given all the above we've stopped deploying ext3 in new servers and only deploy reiserfs in new servers now. A pity selinux doesnt work on reiserfs yet, but selinux has serious growing pains atm so we will wait for selinux to stabilize before we worry about that. ext3 might be just dandy for desktops which I expect is the primary target market for fc3/fc4 but reiserfs/xfs are much better for typical ISP workloads. -Dan From arjanv at redhat.com Mon May 23 07:04:00 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:04:00 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116831840.6280.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 23:50 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > "linux jfs" isn't documented afaik. > > > > The simple situation is that ext3 is basically all we really support and > > test, the rest may or may not work. Is there a reason you want to use JFS ? > > (ext3 in fc3/fc4 is pretty competative with any of the other filesystems on > > just about every workload performance wise... the benchmarks I've seen from > > others hardly ever put JFS on top for anything nowadays so JFS strikes me as > > a bit of an odd choice) > > xfs and reiserfs are _huge_ wins over ext3 for news servers. 1) Did you try this on 2.4 or 2.6? 2.6 ext3 (with htree and reservations) is like a 3x improvement over the 2.4 ext3 in many workloads and is sometimes even slightly better than reiserfs in the "milions of files in a directory" scenario. 2) Did you set the ext3 journalling mode to be on par with reiserfs/xfs? (By default ext3 uses a more strict journalling mode to increase data integrity but that costs some performance vs reiserfs and xfs that don't have this extra protection) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at redhat.com Mon May 23 07:09:29 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:39:29 +0530 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <429181A9.6010808@redhat.com> Hi > >A pity selinux doesnt work on reiserfs yet, but selinux has serious >growing pains atm so we will wait for selinux to stabilize before we worry >about that. > > There is a patch for reiserfs to support xattr but upstream isnt interested. An explanation of the "growing pains" would also be useful regards Rahul From goemon at anime.net Mon May 23 07:24:55 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <1116831840.6280.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 23:50 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > "linux jfs" isn't documented afaik. > > > The simple situation is that ext3 is basically all we really support and > > > test, the rest may or may not work. Is there a reason you want to use JFS ? > > > (ext3 in fc3/fc4 is pretty competative with any of the other filesystems on > > > just about every workload performance wise... the benchmarks I've seen from > > > others hardly ever put JFS on top for anything nowadays so JFS strikes me as > > > a bit of an odd choice) > > xfs and reiserfs are _huge_ wins over ext3 for news servers. > 1) Did you try this on 2.4 or 2.6? 2.6 ext3 (with htree and > reservations) is like a 3x improvement over the 2.4 ext3 in many > workloads and is sometimes even slightly better than reiserfs in the > "milions of files in a directory" scenario. Both. Its not just for large directories, reiserfs did much better with many small files too (typical of news and mailservers). Note that reiserfs wins _big_ in this case performance wise if you turn off tailmerging. In my tests reiserfs lost vs ext3 on many-small-files-writing if you had tailmerging on, but this was a tradeoff for ~10% or more extra storage space you got from tailmerging. > 2) Did you set the ext3 journalling mode to be on par with reiserfs/xfs? > (By default ext3 uses a more strict journalling mode to increase data > integrity but that costs some performance vs reiserfs and xfs that don't > have this extra protection) I tried all available ext3 journalling modes, it was never faster and often many times slower. But even with non-strict journaling we got some total filesystem failures with ext3 where we did not with reiserfs and xfs on identical systems with identical hardware and identical workloads. We still have a few ext3 machines about but they are being phased out and replaced with reiserfs as we get the chance. -Dan From goemon at anime.net Mon May 23 07:31:18 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <429181A9.6010808@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >A pity selinux doesnt work on reiserfs yet, but selinux has serious > >growing pains atm so we will wait for selinux to stabilize before we worry > >about that. > There is a patch for reiserfs to support xattr but upstream isnt > interested. An explanation of the "growing pains" would also be useful "not production ready" eg not ready for deployment in ISP production environment. When people stop filing critical selinux bugs in buzilla then it will be production ready :-) And of course the lack of reiserfs support is a non starter for us too. -Dan From arjanv at redhat.com Mon May 23 07:35:12 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:35:12 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: <1116831840.6280.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <20050523073512.GA21373@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 12:24:55AM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 23:50 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > > > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > "linux jfs" isn't documented afaik. > > > > The simple situation is that ext3 is basically all we really support and > > > > test, the rest may or may not work. Is there a reason you want to use JFS ? > > > > (ext3 in fc3/fc4 is pretty competative with any of the other filesystems on > > > > just about every workload performance wise... the benchmarks I've seen from > > > > others hardly ever put JFS on top for anything nowadays so JFS strikes me as > > > > a bit of an odd choice) > > > xfs and reiserfs are _huge_ wins over ext3 for news servers. > > 1) Did you try this on 2.4 or 2.6? 2.6 ext3 (with htree and > > reservations) is like a 3x improvement over the 2.4 ext3 in many > > workloads and is sometimes even slightly better than reiserfs in the > > "milions of files in a directory" scenario. > > Both. > > Its not just for large directories, reiserfs did much better with many > small files too (typical of news and mailservers). Hmm. that surprises me for htree enabled filesystems (note that if you create an FS with an old distro and then put 2.6 on it it doesn't use htree) From mk at crc.dk Mon May 23 07:43:00 2005 From: mk at crc.dk (Mogens Kjaer) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:43:00 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <20050523073512.GA21373@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1116831840.6280.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20050523073512.GA21373@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <42918984.1060405@crc.dk> Arjan van de Ven wrote: ... > Hmm. that surprises me for htree enabled filesystems (note that if you > create an FS with an old distro and then put 2.6 on it it doesn't use htree) > How can I check if an ext3 filesystem uses htree? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: mk at crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk From pmatilai at laiskiainen.org Mon May 23 08:38:43 2005 From: pmatilai at laiskiainen.org (Panu Matilainen) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:38:43 +0300 (EEST) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <42918984.1060405@crc.dk> References: <1116831840.6280.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20050523073512.GA21373@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <42918984.1060405@crc.dk> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Mogens Kjaer wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > ... >> Hmm. that surprises me for htree enabled filesystems (note that if you >> create an FS with an old distro and then put 2.6 on it it doesn't use >> htree) >> > > How can I check if an ext3 filesystem uses htree? dumpe2fs -h | grep features If dir_index is in the list of filesystem features then htree is used. - Panu - From thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net Mon May 23 08:53:40 2005 From: thethirddoorontheleft at verizon.net (Darwin H. Webb) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 01:53:40 -0700 Subject: OO1.9...100 & 104 In-Reply-To: <1116829378.17792.12.camel@localhost> References: <1116805850.3745.15.camel@Jovette-14> <1116829378.17792.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1116838420.8486.6.camel@Jovette-14> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 07:22 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > The pages range under print does not work. > > Prints first page and quits. > > > > If someone can verify this then I'll look on the bug report and report > > or add a comment. > > > > eggcups (cups) ghost-script to shared printer on Windows XP SP2 HP MP5 > > ps level 2. > > > > Normal print works, print preview "multiple pages up" works. > > > > example ranges used. > > > > pages 2-3 > > pages 3-4 > > pages 1-3 > > Can't say I've seen that printing directly to a printer connected to the > PC - both work happily at this end. > > Do you get this problem if you're using other apps (say Gnumeric or > KOffice) and try to print a number of pages rather than everything? > > Before you feed it into bugzilla, run the app through gdb (or ddd) and > copy the throwback from it - but make sure you have the OOo debug > symbols rpm installed! > > TTFN > > Paul Well, it's NOT oo 104 . Gedit did about the opposite as line ranges set, it printed all pages. So that meant something was up. I recycled the printer (as that was about my only option) and both programs started working correctly. Don't know the cause but the printer has been on for weeks, maybe it took a hit from the furnace. :) Darwin From sundaram at redhat.com Mon May 23 09:03:26 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:33:26 +0530 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42919C5E.4010106@redhat.com> Hi >"not production ready" eg not ready for deployment in ISP production >environment. When people stop filing critical selinux bugs in buzilla then >it will be production ready :-) > > Using just the number of bug reports to assert whether something is production ready or not looks like a bad idea to me. Take a look at the bug count against any major package like the kernel or xorg for comparison regards Rahul From mk at crc.dk Mon May 23 09:09:59 2005 From: mk at crc.dk (Mogens Kjaer) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:09:59 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: <1116831840.6280.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20050523073512.GA21373@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <42918984.1060405@crc.dk> Message-ID: <42919DE7.8090200@crc.dk> Panu Matilainen wrote: ... > dumpe2fs -h | grep features > > If dir_index is in the list of filesystem features then htree is used. Hm, most of my FC3 systems doesn't have this feature enabled. I guess they have either been upgraded, or at some time backed up & restored. I'll fix this in rescue mode: tune2fs -Odir_index e2fsck -f -D Wouldn't it be a good thing to include this automatically during an upgrade? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: mk at crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk From blackman at pharm.uoa.gr Mon May 23 09:27:45 2005 From: blackman at pharm.uoa.gr (James Black) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:27:45 +0300 Subject: Grub Duall Boot Problem Message-ID: <4291A211.7080206@pharm.uoa.gr> Having a Windows XP Installed and also wanted to boot in linux I found that this is a problem on FC4 r3 64bit when in fc3 works great... It seems that grub starts on basic command line, and if i try from rescue mode to : chroot /mnt/sysimage and then grub-install /dev/hda 1) Nothing Happens 2) sometimes it drives me to error 17 or error 15 It also seems to work great for grub-install /dev/fd0.... It looks like Something is really wrong with grub in this pre-release! From goemon at anime.net Mon May 23 09:51:36 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 02:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <42919C5E.4010106@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >"not production ready" eg not ready for deployment in ISP production > >environment. When people stop filing critical selinux bugs in buzilla then > >it will be production ready :-) > Using just the number of bug reports to assert whether something is > production ready or not looks like a bad idea to me. Take a look at the > bug count against any major package like the kernel or xorg for comparison I'm not using just the number. I'm using the criticality of the bugs. Eg showstoppers. Would _you_ seriously deploy FC4T3+selinux in a corporate production server right now? -Dan From sundaram at redhat.com Mon May 23 09:54:28 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:24:28 +0530 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4291A854.10008@redhat.com> Hi >I'm not using just the number. I'm using the criticality of the bugs. Eg >showstoppers. > >Would _you_ seriously deploy FC4T3+selinux in a corporate production >server right now? > >-Dan > > > It wasnt clear to me that you were talking about SELinux specifically in the test releases. Test releases by design are not fit for production, let alone SELinux in it. Of course I wouldnt suggest doing that regards Rahul From goemon at anime.net Mon May 23 10:02:23 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <20050523073512.GA21373@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > Both. > > Its not just for large directories, reiserfs did much better with many > > small files too (typical of news and mailservers). > Hmm. that surprises me for htree enabled filesystems (note that if you > create an FS with an old distro and then put 2.6 on it it doesn't use htree) Remember reiserfs was designed from the bottom up to work quickly with lots of _small files_. So it does what it was designed to do well. That this happens to be the typical workload of news servers and mailservers is a happy coincidence. Remember this is _not_ purely about directory sizes. -Dan From goemon at anime.net Mon May 23 10:04:18 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <4291A854.10008@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >I'm not using just the number. I'm using the criticality of the bugs. Eg > >showstoppers. > >Would _you_ seriously deploy FC4T3+selinux in a corporate production > >server right now? > It wasnt clear to me that you were talking about SELinux specifically in > the test releases. Test releases by design are not fit for production, > let alone SELinux in it. Of course I wouldnt suggest doing that Ok, would you recommend FC3+selinux in a corporate production environment then? -Dan From arjanv at redhat.com Mon May 23 10:05:16 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:05:16 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: <20050523073512.GA21373@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050523100515.GB24214@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:02:23AM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > Both. > > > Its not just for large directories, reiserfs did much better with many > > > small files too (typical of news and mailservers). > > Hmm. that surprises me for htree enabled filesystems (note that if you > > create an FS with an old distro and then put 2.6 on it it doesn't use htree) > > Remember reiserfs was designed from the bottom up to work quickly with > lots of _small files_. So it does what it was designed to do well. That > this happens to be the typical workload of news servers and mailservers > is a happy coincidence. yet a design goal leads to a technological implementation, and I'm wondering what is a causing factor for ext3 to not be roughly equally fast. ext3 with htree should in principle not be bad at lots of small files. at all. There is no inherent bias in ext3 towards bigger files (well except when you count not having tail merging; tail merging will give you gain in the case of a read-mostly lots-of-small-files case) From sundaram at redhat.com Mon May 23 10:12:12 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:42:12 +0530 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4291AC7C.6020601@redhat.com> Hi >Ok, would you recommend FC3+selinux in a corporate production environment >then? > >-Dan > > > No. I wouldnt but thats because of other factors like shorter lifecycle and update methods in Fedora and not because of the state of SELinux in it. regards Rahul From arjanv at redhat.com Mon May 23 10:12:29 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:12:29 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116843150.6280.18.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 03:04 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >I'm not using just the number. I'm using the criticality of the bugs. Eg > > >showstoppers. > > >Would _you_ seriously deploy FC4T3+selinux in a corporate production > > >server right now? > > It wasnt clear to me that you were talking about SELinux specifically in > > the test releases. Test releases by design are not fit for production, > > let alone SELinux in it. Of course I wouldnt suggest doing that > > Ok, would you recommend FC3+selinux in a corporate production environment > then? I'd not recommend FC in a corporate production environment, I'd recommend RHEL for such environments. (and yes RHEL4 has selinux enabled by default) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From goemon at anime.net Mon May 23 10:22:37 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <20050523100515.GB24214@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:02:23AM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > Both. > > > > Its not just for large directories, reiserfs did much better with many > > > > small files too (typical of news and mailservers). > > > Hmm. that surprises me for htree enabled filesystems (note that if you > > > create an FS with an old distro and then put 2.6 on it it doesn't use htree) > > Remember reiserfs was designed from the bottom up to work quickly with > > lots of _small files_. So it does what it was designed to do well. That > > this happens to be the typical workload of news servers and mailservers > > is a happy coincidence. > yet a design goal leads to a technological implementation, and I'm wondering > what is a causing factor for ext3 to not be roughly equally fast. ext3 with > htree should in principle not be bad at lots of small files. at all. There > is no inherent bias in ext3 towards bigger files (well except when you count > not having tail merging; tail merging will give you gain in the case of a > read-mostly lots-of-small-files case) I think some of this has to do with the fact that ext3 is fundamentally a very, very, very old filesystem. Its some of the oldest code still in the kernel iirc. Some of the assumptions made in the original design may no longer be so relevant over a decade later. ext2 was in use when everyone was still on PIO and C/H/S :-) reiserfs by comparison is brand spanking new. I recall hearing something about a tailmerging patch for ext2/3 somewhere. What happened to that? -Dan From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 23 10:22:38 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:22:38 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4291AEEE.3000900@gmx.de> Dan Hollis wrote: >On Mon, 23 May 2005, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >>>"not production ready" eg not ready for deployment in ISP production >>>environment. When people stop filing critical selinux bugs in buzilla then >>>it will be production ready :-) >>> >>> >>Using just the number of bug reports to assert whether something is >>production ready or not looks like a bad idea to me. Take a look at the >>bug count against any major package like the kernel or xorg for comparison >> >> >I'm not using just the number. I'm using the criticality of the bugs. Eg >showstoppers. > >Would _you_ seriously deploy FC4T3+selinux in a corporate production >server right now? > good joke :-) [...] not production ready [...] seriously deploy FCxTx+selinux in a corporate production [...] * *http://www.net-security.org/search.php?sort=0&keyword=selinux&search.x=0&search.y=0 -> http://www.net-security.org/news.php?id=7755 -> http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid39_gci1082560,00.html *"Think before deploying Security-Enhanced Linux in RHEL 4" *One of the most exciting new features in RHEL v.4 is the implementation of Security-Enhanced Linux (SELinux). In this tip, we'll look at how you can use it to beef up system security. -- shrek-m From arjanv at redhat.com Mon May 23 10:30:50 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:30:50 +0200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: <20050523100515.GB24214@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050523103050.GC24214@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:22:37AM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:02:23AM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > > > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > Both. > > > > > Its not just for large directories, reiserfs did much better with many > > > > > small files too (typical of news and mailservers). > > > > Hmm. that surprises me for htree enabled filesystems (note that if you > > > > create an FS with an old distro and then put 2.6 on it it doesn't use htree) > > > Remember reiserfs was designed from the bottom up to work quickly with > > > lots of _small files_. So it does what it was designed to do well. That > > > this happens to be the typical workload of news servers and mailservers > > > is a happy coincidence. > > yet a design goal leads to a technological implementation, and I'm wondering > > what is a causing factor for ext3 to not be roughly equally fast. ext3 with > > htree should in principle not be bad at lots of small files. at all. There > > is no inherent bias in ext3 towards bigger files (well except when you count > > not having tail merging; tail merging will give you gain in the case of a > > read-mostly lots-of-small-files case) > > I think some of this has to do with the fact that ext3 is fundamentally a > very, very, very old filesystem. Its some of the oldest code still in the > kernel iirc. By no means true. > Some of the assumptions made in the original design may no > longer be so relevant over a decade later. ext2 was in use when everyone > was still on PIO and C/H/S :-) actually that isn't the case. sure there was an ext2 way back. But it moved forward quite a bit (htree is an example of that). > reiserfs by comparison is brand spanking > new. reiserfs3 isn't so new though, it is like 6 years old. reiserfs4 is entirely unrelated to reiserfs3. The biggest difference between reiserfs3 and ext3 is that reiserfs3 is more tree based on disk and ext3 uses blockgroups on disk. For directories they nowadays both uses trees (since ext3 grew htrees). I haven't seen conclusive evidence either way which is architectually better; trees tend to be a bit more fragile but can do certain things better (but other things really poor, if the tree has to rebalance all the time, in addition trees tend to cause more fragementation longer term). Also there is a difference between the on disk storage of metadata and the in memory one. If you want to use reiserfs, by all means be my guest. Some people only think they have performance gains with it, others really do. Reiserfs in fedora tends to be "lightly tested" at best though, so make sure you test it hard yourself before going into production. From goemon at anime.net Mon May 23 10:58:26 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <20050523103050.GC24214@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > If you want to use reiserfs, by all means be my guest. Some people only > think they have performance gains with it, others really do. Reiserfs in > fedora tends to be "lightly tested" at best though, so make sure you test it > hard yourself before going into production. For us its not a question of 'only thinking'. We actually tested it and got clear performance wins. We tested ext3, jfs, xfs, and reiserfs. For us reiserfs is the clear winner for ISP workloads. Its been heavily tested and works fine for us, thanks :-) Our reiserfs results interested a business partner of ours who used to swear by ext3. They also found out reiserfs was better all round for them so they are also switching. The only real caveat for reiserfs at the moment is the lack of selinux support. Oh yes, I also use reiserfs at home on the desktop with tailmerging enabled. An extra 10% diskspace is significant especially when its 200gb partitions :-) -Dan From buildsys at redhat.com Mon May 23 11:49:12 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 07:49:12 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050523 changes Message-ID: <200505231149.j4NBnCHP001934@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: audit-0.8.2-1 ------------- * Fri May 20 2005 Steve Grubb 0.8.2-1 - Update documentation - Handle user space audit events in more uniform way - Update all parsers for more robustness with new kernel changes - Create quiet mode for error messages - Make rotated logs readonly eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M6.22 -------------------------- * Sun May 22 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.22 - Bump required version of java-gcj-compat to the latest (-40jpp_24rh). - Add patch to make swt use libgcjawt instead of libjawt for gcj. * Fri May 20 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.21 - Add ecj-options patch to bootstrap source. - Make embedded browser widget work (Robin Green). gnome-desktop-2.10.0-4 ---------------------- * Mon May 16 2005 Ray Strode - 2.10.0-4 - run gettext initialization routines on startup (bug 155659) (use right patch). gnome-media-2.10.2-4 -------------------- * Fri May 20 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 2.10.2-4 - patch that avoids a deadlock when the last track on the cd is done (bug #151093) kernel-2.6.11-1.1340_FC4 ------------------------ * Sat May 21 2005 Dave Jones - Fix divide by zero in ipw2100 driver. (#158406) - 2.6.12-rc4-git5 More x86-64 updates, Further pktcdvd frobbing, yet more dvb updates, x86(64) ioremap fixes, ppc updates, IPMI sysfs support (reverted for now due to breakage), various SCSI fixes (aix7xxx, spi transport), vmalloc improvements * Sat May 21 2005 David Woodhouse - Fix oops in avc_audit() (#158377) - Include serial numbers in non-syscall audit messages * Sat May 21 2005 Bill Nottingham - bump ipw2200 conflict nss_ldap-234-4 -------------- * Fri May 20 2005 Nalin Dahyabhai 234-4 - override glibc version detection so that mismatches between the versions of 32- and 64-bit glibc don't result in our %install installing the module with a different name than the 'make install' target uses * Fri May 20 2005 Nalin Dahyabhai 234-3 - fix type mismatch bug in patch for using non-blocking start_tls in preference to the blocking version when it's available (#156582) redhat-artwork-0.122-10 ----------------------- * Sun May 22 2005 John (J5) Palmieri 0.122-10 - Add bluecurve weather icons for the weather applet rpm-4.4.1-20 ------------ * Sat May 21 2005 Paul Nasrat - 4.4.1-20 - Drop signature patch - dangling unpackaged symlinks udev-058-1 ---------- * Fri May 20 2005 Bill Nottingham - 058-1 - update to 058, fixes conflict with newer kernels (#158371) * Thu May 12 2005 Harald Hoyer - 057-6 - polished persistent scripts yum-2.3.2-3 ----------- * Fri May 20 2005 Jeremy Katz - 2.3.2-3 - add fixes from Seth for the shell to run depsolve and to clean up output somewhat (#158267) From alan at redhat.com Mon May 23 12:48:56 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:48:56 -0400 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: <20050523100515.GB24214@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050523124856.GB7339@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:22:37AM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > I think some of this has to do with the fact that ext3 is fundamentally a > very, very, very old filesystem. Its some of the oldest code still in the > kernel iirc. Some of the assumptions made in the original design may no > longer be so relevant over a decade later. ext2 was in use when everyone > was still on PIO and C/H/S :-) reiserfs by comparison is brand spanking > new. Not really. The fs has had major reworking over time and its one of the few very SMP scalable file systems for example. Nor is it from the world of PIO and C/H/S - it doesn't care about geometry and it threw out a lot of the old BSD cruft like interleave and rotational latency tricks that were old world. > I recall hearing something about a tailmerging patch for ext2/3 somewhere. > What happened to that? tailmerging is very 1980's, its not been worth deploying in the real world for the past ten or more years. BSD FFS did big blocks on small disks in order to get large block sizes to handle the lack of good command queueing and the latency of block requests, and then needed the tail/fragment hacks to cover up the space lossage. Nowdays nobody wants to trade 10-20% of performance for 1% more disk space given the price of disks and the disks can stream data at high speed without 8K blocks. Alan From goemon at anime.net Mon May 23 13:37:55 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 06:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <20050523124856.GB7339@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Alan Cox wrote: > Nowdays nobody wants to trade 10-20% of performance for 1% more disk > space given the price of disks and the disks can stream data at high > speed without 8K blocks. Alan self appointed spokesperson for the entire world :-) At least on my home machine I got ~10% extra disk space and only take a small performance hit on writes. Its like having a 220gb disk instead of a 200gb one. Thats worth it to me at least. And at least its an option for end users to choose, instead of "the one and only true way" ala steve jobs applethink. -Dan From khuffenb at gmail.com Mon May 23 15:04:06 2005 From: khuffenb at gmail.com (Kevin Huffenberger) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:04:06 -0400 Subject: Trying to fix 8139too driver problems In-Reply-To: <20050523023725.GA27370@redhat.com> References: <20050523023725.GA27370@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 5/22/05, Dave Jones wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:10:52PM -0400, Kevin Huffenberger wrote: > > > Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004 > > printing eip: > > c01f31df > > This should be fixed in the latest builds. (You can always find the > latest kernel builds at http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/ > Right now rawhide is lagging a day or so from the latest build as the > builds need to be moved across by hand.. > > Dave Indeed, upgrading to kernel-2.6.11-1.1341_FC4 seems to have solved this aspect of the problem. Thanks very much. Meanwhile, the other error messages with regard to networking remain: i.e. NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out. I've attached below the diagnostics run under the new kernel. I'd like to chase down this problem, but I'm unsure from what angle to attack. Best wishes, ---Kevin [khuffenb at localhost ~]$ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.11-1.1341_FC4 #1 Mon May 23 02:09:39 EDT 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [khuffenb at localhost ~]$ /sbin/lspci -s 03:06.0 -vvvv 03:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 3085 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- [khuffenb at localhost ~]$ /sbin/ifup eth0 Determining IP information for eth0... failed. [root at localhost ~]# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 2069267 XT-PIC timer 1: 8102 XT-PIC i8042 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 9: 1122 XT-PIC acpi 10: 1 XT-PIC ATI IXP 11: 2 XT-PIC ehci_hcd:usb1, ohci_hcd:usb2, ohci_hcd:usb3 12: 266498 XT-PIC i8042 14: 9483 XT-PIC ide0 15: 18180 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 ERR: 11 [khuffenb at localhost ~]$ /sbin/ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:B0:6E:03:F7 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xa000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1817 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1817 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1717026 (1.6 MiB) TX bytes:1717026 (1.6 MiB) sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) [khuffenb at localhost ~]$ dmesg eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1 eth0: no IPv6 routers present NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out eth0: Transmit timeout, status 0c 0005 c07f media 10. eth0: Tx queue start entry 4 dirty entry 0. eth0: Tx descriptor 0 is 0008a05a. (queue head) eth0: Tx descriptor 1 is 0008a04e. eth0: Tx descriptor 2 is 0008a046. eth0: Tx descriptor 3 is 0008a156. eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1 NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out eth0: Transmit timeout, status 0c 0005 c07f media 10. eth0: Tx queue start entry 4 dirty entry 0. eth0: Tx descriptor 0 is 0008a046. (queue head) eth0: Tx descriptor 1 is 0008a046. eth0: Tx descriptor 2 is 0008a156. eth0: Tx descriptor 3 is 0008a156. eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1 NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out eth0: Transmit timeout, status 0c 0005 c07f media 10. eth0: Tx queue start entry 4 dirty entry 0. eth0: Tx descriptor 0 is 0008a156. (queue head) eth0: Tx descriptor 1 is 0008a156. eth0: Tx descriptor 2 is 0008a156. eth0: Tx descriptor 3 is 0008a156. eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1 [root at localhost khuffenb]# /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used by joydev 9600 0 parport_pc 28933 0 lp 13001 0 parport 40585 2 parport_pc,lp autofs4 29253 2 rfcomm 42333 0 l2cap 30661 5 rfcomm bluetooth 56133 4 rfcomm,l2cap sunrpc 167813 1 pcmcia 29025 2 ipt_REJECT 5569 1 ipt_state 1857 2 ip_conntrack 41497 1 ipt_state iptable_filter 2881 1 ip_tables 19521 3 ipt_REJECT,ipt_state,iptable_filter video 15941 0 button 6609 0 battery 9413 0 ac 4805 0 md5 4033 1 ipv6 268097 10 yenta_socket 21449 1 rsrc_nonstatic 12737 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core 50909 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic ohci_hcd 26849 0 ehci_hcd 41037 0 shpchp 94405 0 snd_atiixp 22433 1 snd_ac97_codec 75961 1 snd_atiixp snd_seq_dummy 3653 0 snd_seq_oss 37057 0 snd_seq_midi_event 9153 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq 62289 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 8781 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_pcm_oss 51185 0 snd_mixer_oss 17857 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 100169 3 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 33605 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd 57157 11 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 10913 1 snd snd_page_alloc 9669 2 snd_atiixp,snd_pcm 8139too 30017 0 mii 5441 1 8139too dm_snapshot 17413 0 dm_zero 2113 0 dm_mirror 26029 0 ext3 132553 2 jbd 86233 1 ext3 dm_mod 58101 6 dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror -------------------------------------------- rtl8139 diagnostic programs... [root at localhost 8139_diagnostic]# ./rtl8139-diag -aaf rtl8139-diag.c:v2.13 2/28/2005 Donald Becker (becker at scyld.com) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a RealTek RTL8139 adapter at 0xa000. RealTek chip registers at 0xa000 0x000: 6eb00f00 0000f703 a0000000 40000000 00002000 00002000 00002000 00002000 0x020: 0a7d0000 0a7d0600 0a7d0c00 0a7d1200 09760000 01000000 0000fff0 00050000 0x040: 74400000 00000000 e9617cb2 00000000 008d10c0 00000000 00a8c110 00100000 0x060: 1100000f 01e1782d 000141e1 00000000 00000704 000307c0 60f60c59 7b732660.Realtek station address 00:0f:b0:6e:03:f7, chip type 'rtl8139C'. Receiver configuration: Reception disabled Rx FIFO threshold 16 bytes, maximum burst 16 bytes, 8KB ring Transmitter disabled with normal settings, maximum burst 16 bytes. Tx entry #0 status 00002000 incomplete, 0 bytes. Tx entry #1 status 00002000 incomplete, 0 bytes. Tx entry #2 status 00002000 incomplete, 0 bytes. Tx entry #3 status 00002000 incomplete, 0 bytes. Flow control: Tx disabled Rx disabled. The chip configuration is 0x10 0x8d, MII half-duplex mode. Interrupt sources are pending. Rx Complete indication. Transmit OK indication. [root at localhost 8139_diagnostic]# ./rtl8139-diag -ee rtl8139-diag.c:v2.13 2/28/2005 Donald Becker (becker at scyld.com) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a RealTek RTL8139 adapter at 0xa000. Realtek station address 00:0f:b0:6e:03:f7, chip type 'rtl8139C'. Receiver configuration: Reception disabled Rx FIFO threshold 16 bytes, maximum burst 16 bytes, 8KB ring Transmitter disabled with normal settings, maximum burst 16 bytes. Flow control: Tx disabled Rx disabled. The chip configuration is 0x10 0x8d, MII half-duplex mode. Interrupt sources are pending. Rx Complete indication. Transmit OK indication. Decoded EEPROM contents: PCI IDs -- Vendor 0x10ec, Device 0x8139. PCI Subsystem IDs -- Vendor 0x103c, Device 0x3085. PCI timer settings -- minimum grant 32, maximum latency 64. General purpose pins -- direction 0xe1 value 0x1e. Station Address 00:0F:B0:6E:03:F7. Configuration register 0/1 -- 0x8d / 0xc2. EEPROM active region checksum is 093d. EEPROM contents (64 words): 0x00: 8129 10ec 8139 103c 3085 4020 e11e 0f00 0x08: 6eb0 f703 8d10 f7c2 a801 43b9 a0f2 071a 0x10: df43 8a36 df43 8a36 43b9 a0f2 1111 1111 0x18: 0000 23a9 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1800 0x20: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ... [root at localhost 8139_diagnostic]# ./rtl8139-diag -mm rtl8139-diag.c:v2.13 2/28/2005 Donald Becker (becker at scyld.com) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a RealTek RTL8139 adapter at 0xa000. Realtek station address 00:0f:b0:6e:03:f7, chip type 'rtl8139C'. Receiver configuration: Reception disabled Rx FIFO threshold 16 bytes, maximum burst 16 bytes, 8KB ring Transmitter disabled with normal settings, maximum burst 16 bytes. Flow control: Tx disabled Rx disabled. The chip configuration is 0x10 0x8d, MII half-duplex mode. Interrupt sources are pending. Rx Complete indication. Transmit OK indication. The RTL8139 does not use a MII transceiver. It does have internal MII-compatible registers: Basic mode control register 0x1100. Basic mode status register 0x782d. Autonegotiation Advertisement 0x01e1. Link Partner Ability register 0x41e1. Autonegotiation expansion 0x0001. Disconnects 0x0000. False carrier sense counter 0x0000. NWay test register 0x0704. Receive frame error count 0x0000. libmii.c:v2.11 2/28/2005 Donald Becker (becker at scyld.com) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html MII PHY #32 transceiver registers: 1100 782d 0000 0000 01e1 41e1 0001 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000. Basic mode control register 0x1100: Auto-negotiation enabled. Basic mode status register 0x782d ... 782d. Link status: established. Capable of 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx 10baseT-FD 10baseT. Able to perform Auto-negotiation, negotiation complete. This transceiver has no vendor identification. I'm advertising 01e1: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx 10baseT-FD 10baseT Advertising no additional info pages. IEEE 802.3 CSMA/CD protocol. Link partner capability is 41e1: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx 10baseT-FD 10baseT. Negotiation completed. From tjb at unh.edu Mon May 23 15:13:45 2005 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:13:45 -0400 Subject: Two SELINUX Problems with YP Message-ID: <1116861225.5448.3.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Bugzilla keeps giving me blank pages when I try to submit a bug so I thought I'd get these out here at least. Selinux is blocking dovecot and saslauthd from authenticating yp users. The audit log looks like this: type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857414.990:8599907): syscall=2 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=7fffff875a10 a1=0 a2=15 a3=2aaaab38f9c0 items=1 pid=7267 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=PATH msg=audit(1116857414.990:8599907): item=0 name="/var/yp/binding/rcc.2" inode=1933353 dev=fd:00 mode=040755 ouid=0 ogid=0 rdev=00:00 type=AVC msg=audit(1116857414.990:8599914): avc: denied { create } for scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tclass=tcp_socket type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857414.990:8599914): syscall=41 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=2 a1=1 a2=6 a3=4 items=0 pid=7267 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=AVC msg=audit(1116857414.990:8599917): avc: denied { create } for scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tclass=tcp_socket type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857414.990:8599917): syscall=41 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=2 a1=1 a2=6 a3=4 items=0 pid=7267 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=AVC msg=audit(1116857414.991:8599934): avc: denied { search } for name=yp dev=dm-0 ino=1933353 scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:var_yp_t tclass=dir type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857414.991:8599934): syscall=2 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=7fffff875950 a1=0 a2=15 a3=0 items=1 pid=7267 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=PATH msg=audit(1116857414.991:8599934): item=0 name="/var/yp/binding/rcc.2" inode=1933353 dev=fd:00 mode=040755 ouid=0 ogid=0 rdev=00:00 type=AVC msg=audit(1116857414.991:8599947): avc: denied { create } for scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tclass=tcp_socket type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857414.991:8599947): syscall=41 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=2 a1=1 a2=6 a3=4 items=0 pid=7267 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=AVC msg=audit(1116857414.991:8599949): avc: denied { create } for scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tclass=tcp_socket type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857414.991:8599949): syscall=41 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=2 a1=1 a2=6 a3=4 items=0 pid=7267 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=AVC msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619891): avc: denied { search } for name=yp dev=dm-0 ino=1933353 scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:var_yp_t tclass=dir type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619891): syscall=2 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=7fffff875a10 a1=0 a2=15 a3=2aaaab38f9c0 items=1 pid=7277 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=PATH msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619891): item=0 name="/var/yp/binding/rcc.2" inode=1933353 dev=fd:00 mode=040755 ouid=0 ogid=0 rdev=00:00 type=AVC msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619892): avc: denied { create } for scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tclass=tcp_socket type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619892): syscall=41 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=2 a1=1 a2=6 a3=4 items=0 pid=7277 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=AVC msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619895): avc: denied { create } for scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tclass=tcp_socket type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619895): syscall=41 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=2 a1=1 a2=6 a3=4 items=0 pid=7277 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=AVC msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619906): avc: denied { search } for name=yp dev=dm-0 ino=1933353 scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:var_yp_t tclass=dir type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619906): syscall=2 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=7fffff875950 a1=0 a2=15 a3=0 items=1 pid=7277 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=PATH msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619906): item=0 name="/var/yp/binding/rcc.2" inode=1933353 dev=fd:00 mode=040755 ouid=0 ogid=0 rdev=00:00 type=AVC msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619907): avc: denied { create } for scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tclass=tcp_socket type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619907): syscall=41 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=2 a1=1 a2=6 a3=4 items=0 pid=7277 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth type=AVC msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619909): avc: denied { create } for scontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tcontext=root:system_r:dovecot_auth_t tclass=tcp_socket type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1116857427.100:8619909): syscall=41 arch=c000003e success=no exit=-13 a0=2 a1=1 a2=6 a3=4 items=0 pid=7277 loginuid=-1 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm=dovecot-auth exe=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth I'll try to submit bugs again later. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From jim at jbsys.com Mon May 23 15:14:26 2005 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:14:26 -0700 Subject: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? References: <1116823277.2955.0.camel@yoda.loki.me> Message-ID: <003c01c55faa$1c236d50$0a01a8c0@jbsys> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Taranov" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: Re: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? > the mm patch is broken out into pieces so that it's easier to apply it > selectively, if need it (and not that the driver is "broken" somehow, > if that's what you imply - it's the latest vendor certified driver > that works just fine). > > Anyway, I was just checking... I guess I'm then stuck having to > recompile my kernel anytime I want to patch it. kinda sux. > > On 5/23/05, Jesse Keating wrote: >> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 00:22 -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: >> > I don't really know how the fedora build cycle works but is there any >> > chance the follwing driver patch could be included into FC4? >> > >> > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.12-rc4/2.6.12-rc4-mm2/broken-out/areca-raid-linux-scsi-driver.patch >> > >> > It's kindof a bugger for me to have to recompile it every time just >> > because I want it in the OS... >> >> It needs to be come part of the main kernel. Only then will it be >> included into Fedora proper. There must be a reason it's been >> 'broken-out'.... >> Tim, Add a bug report to bugzilla and provide the patch as a 'solution'. This makes it easy for the kernel patch to show up in FC4. Jim From mefoster at gmail.com Mon May 23 15:19:49 2005 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:19:49 +0100 Subject: Trying to fix 8139too driver problems In-Reply-To: References: <20050523023725.GA27370@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 5/23/05, Kevin Huffenberger wrote: > Meanwhile, the other error messages with regard to networking remain: > i.e. NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out. I've attached below > the diagnostics run under the new kernel. I'd like to chase down this > problem, but I'm unsure from what angle to attack. These look somewhat similar to problems I'm having with the network card in my laptop (Broadcom something-or-other; the kernel driver is b44). See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=154512 for a description of my problems. MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From ttaranov at gmail.com Mon May 23 15:55:15 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:55:15 -0400 Subject: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? In-Reply-To: <003c01c55faa$1c236d50$0a01a8c0@jbsys> References: <1116823277.2955.0.camel@yoda.loki.me> <003c01c55faa$1c236d50$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Message-ID: created a bug #158562 about this. On 5/23/05, James C. Bevier wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Taranov" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:46 PM > Subject: Re: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? > > > > the mm patch is broken out into pieces so that it's easier to apply it > > selectively, if need it (and not that the driver is "broken" somehow, > > if that's what you imply - it's the latest vendor certified driver > > that works just fine). > > > > Anyway, I was just checking... I guess I'm then stuck having to > > recompile my kernel anytime I want to patch it. kinda sux. > > > > On 5/23/05, Jesse Keating wrote: > >> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 00:22 -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > >> > I don't really know how the fedora build cycle works but is there any > >> > chance the follwing driver patch could be included into FC4? > >> > > >> > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.12-rc4/2.6.12-rc4-mm2/broken-out/areca-raid-linux-scsi-driver.patch > >> > > >> > It's kindof a bugger for me to have to recompile it every time just > >> > because I want it in the OS... > >> > >> It needs to be come part of the main kernel. Only then will it be > >> included into Fedora proper. There must be a reason it's been > >> 'broken-out'.... > >> > > Tim, > > Add a bug report to bugzilla and provide the patch as a 'solution'. This > makes it easy for the kernel patch to show up in FC4. > > Jim > > From khuffenb at gmail.com Mon May 23 15:56:42 2005 From: khuffenb at gmail.com (Kevin Huffenberger) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:56:42 -0400 Subject: Trying to fix 8139too driver problems In-Reply-To: References: <20050523023725.GA27370@redhat.com> Message-ID: I tried noapic and nolapic before with no success, but adding kernel option acpi=noirq did fix the networking problem. What does this indicate, kernel problem, misconfiguration, or flakey bios? ---Kevin On 5/23/05, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > On 5/23/05, Kevin Huffenberger wrote: > > Meanwhile, the other error messages with regard to networking remain: > > i.e. NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out. I've attached below > > the diagnostics run under the new kernel. I'd like to chase down this > > problem, but I'm unsure from what angle to attack. > > These look somewhat similar to problems I'm having with the network > card in my laptop (Broadcom something-or-other; the kernel driver is > b44). > > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=154512 for a > description of my problems. > > MEF > > -- > __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ > "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, > lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination > of their C programs." (Robert Firth) > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From caf at omen.com Mon May 23 16:40:49 2005 From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:40:49 -0700 Subject: How to update? In-Reply-To: <20050523155535.1B28773307@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050523155535.1B28773307@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116866449.25872.3.camel@omen.com> yum update fails with an unresolved reference to libjawt.so.6 up2date hangs while downloading headers to resolve dependencies desktop->display->dual head doesn't work -- Chuck Forsberg caf at omen.com www.omen.com 503-614-0430 Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software" 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 FAX 629-0665 From pmatilai at laiskiainen.org Mon May 23 16:51:27 2005 From: pmatilai at laiskiainen.org (Panu Matilainen) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:51:27 +0300 Subject: How to update? In-Reply-To: <1116866449.25872.3.camel@omen.com> References: <20050523155535.1B28773307@hormel.redhat.com> <1116866449.25872.3.camel@omen.com> Message-ID: <1116867087.22283.5.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 09:40 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > yum update fails with an unresolved reference to libjawt.so.6 > > up2date hangs while downloading headers to resolve dependencies Find out where the problematic dependency is coming from: [root at weasel ~]# rpm -q --whatprovides libjawt.so.6 libgcj-4.0.0-7 ...and exclude that from the update set: [root at weasel ~]# yum --exclude=libgcj update - Panu - From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 23 17:04:27 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:04:27 +0200 Subject: How to update? In-Reply-To: <1116867087.22283.5.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> References: <20050523155535.1B28773307@hormel.redhat.com> <1116866449.25872.3.camel@omen.com> <1116867087.22283.5.camel@weasel.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <1116867867.4000.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 19:51 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 09:40 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > > yum update fails with an unresolved reference to libjawt.so.6 > > > > up2date hangs while downloading headers to resolve dependencies > > Find out where the problematic dependency is coming from: > [root at weasel ~]# rpm -q --whatprovides libjawt.so.6 > libgcj-4.0.0-7 > > ...and exclude that from the update set: > [root at weasel ~]# yum --exclude=libgcj update > > - Panu - Wasn't this already answered on the list? Think you had to do something like yum --exclude=\*4.0.0-8\* update Afaik this will be solved when there is a new build of openoffice.org that has been built with the new gcc stuff. Regards, Patrick From rpa4email at rogers.com Mon May 23 17:16:24 2005 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:16:24 -0400 Subject: File Roller extract window always selects a sub-folder if present In-Reply-To: <429166B3.8020704@comcast.net> References: <1116824624.9223.2.camel@fluffbox.fluffnet> <429166B3.8020704@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200505231317.42745.rpa4email@rogers.com> On Monday 23 May 2005 01:14, amazing powers of observbation wrote: > it is a desired effect . you don t have to create a destination folder > it does this automaticly . its a but in macro ...it saves a step . you > will get use to it . it is a gnome wide issue and an improvement to the > desktop Automatically creates what folder? So far, I can honestly say it is not an improvement. Robert. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This is a goal of Fedora, to stop using non- mainline patches in kernels. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating From FrankSanderDo at vodafone.de Mon May 23 18:04:30 2005 From: FrankSanderDo at vodafone.de (Frank Sander) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:04:30 +0200 Subject: Trying to fix 8139too driver problems In-Reply-To: References: <20050523023725.GA27370@redhat.com> Message-ID: <42921B2E.9050801@vodafone.de> Hi folks, this problem I had a few weeks ago with the sundance driver as well. I could fix it with merging the original driver into the kernel tree. Anyway doing that i figured that the problem was caused by the collision detection. This was resetting to fast the transmitter. SNIP with kernel.... if (intr_status & (IntrTxDone | IntrDrvRqst)) { tx_status = ioread16 (ioaddr + TxStatus); for (tx_cnt=32; tx_status & 0x80; --tx_cnt) { if (netif_msg_tx_done(np)) printk ("%s: Transmit status is %2.2x.\n", dev->name, tx_status); if (tx_status & 0x1e) { np->stats.tx_errors++; if (tx_status & 0x10) np->stats.tx_fifo_errors++; if (tx_status & 0x08) np->stats.collisions++; if (tx_status & 0x02) np->stats.tx_window_errors++; /* This reset has not been verified!. */ if (tx_status & 0x10) { /* Reset the Tx. */ np->stats.tx_fifo_errors++; spin_lock(&np->lock); reset_tx(dev); spin_unlock(&np->lock); } if (tx_status & 0x1e) /* Restart the Tx. */ iowrite16 (TxEnable, ioaddr + MACCtrl1); } /* Yup, this is a documentation bug. It cost me *hours*. */ SNAP with kernel SNIP original from DLINK... if (intr_status & (IntrTxDone | IntrDrvRqst)) { tx_status = readw (ioaddr + TxStatus); for (tx_cnt=32; tx_status & 0x80; --tx_cnt) { if (netif_msg_tx_done(np)) printk ("%s: Transmit status is %2.2x.\n", dev->name, tx_status); if (tx_status & 0x1e) { np->stats.tx_errors++; if (tx_status & 0x10) np->stats.tx_fifo_errors++; if (tx_status & 0x08) np->stats.collisions++; if (tx_status & 0x02) np->stats.tx_window_errors++; /* This reset has not been verified!. */ if (tx_status & 0x10) { /* Reset the Tx. */ np->stats.tx_fifo_errors++; spin_lock(&np->lock); reset_tx(dev); spin_unlock(&np->lock); } if (tx_status & 0x1e) { /* It could fail to restart the tx when MaxCollions, need to try more times */ int i = 10; do { writew (readw(ioaddr + MACCtrl1) | TxEnable, ioaddr + MACCtrl1); if (readw(ioaddr + MACCtrl1) & TxEnabled) break; mdelay(1); } while (--i); } } /* Yup, this is a documentation bug. It cost me *hours*. */ SNAP original from DLINK this was the main difference I could find. maybe some body with more experience can have a look? both extracts coming from sundance driver function intr_handler see you Frank Mary Ellen Foster wrote: >On 5/23/05, Kevin Huffenberger wrote: > > >>Meanwhile, the other error messages with regard to networking remain: >>i.e. NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out. I've attached below >>the diagnostics run under the new kernel. I'd like to chase down this >>problem, but I'm unsure from what angle to attack. >> >> > >These look somewhat similar to problems I'm having with the network >card in my laptop (Broadcom something-or-other; the kernel driver is >b44). > >See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=154512 for a >description of my problems. > >MEF > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ttaranov at gmail.com Mon May 23 17:57:38 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:57:38 -0400 Subject: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? In-Reply-To: <1116868950.5520.0.camel@jkeating2.hq.pogolinux.com> References: <1116823277.2955.0.camel@yoda.loki.me> <003c01c55faa$1c236d50$0a01a8c0@jbsys> <1116868950.5520.0.camel@jkeating2.hq.pogolinux.com> Message-ID: I would have excluded device drivers from this category or goal, _especially_ if they are shown to work ok under mainline kernel releases as well as are part of the upcoming/future kernel releases. On a personal note, to keep end-users happy it might be best to support as many device drivers as possible especially considering the hoops that someone has to go through to get the device drivers into the OS. On 5/23/05, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 08:14 -0700, James C. Bevier wrote: > > Tim, > > > > Add a bug report to bugzilla and provide the patch as a 'solution'. > > This > > makes it easy for the kernel patch to show up in FC4. > > Still most likely will not be included until the code itself is included > in mainline kernel tree. This is a goal of Fedora, to stop using non- > mainline patches in kernels. > > -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) > GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > > Was I helpful? Let others know: > http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon May 23 18:03:45 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:03:45 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20050519 changes In-Reply-To: <20050522170657.GA27042@redhat.com> References: <200505191536.j4JFa4wR025454@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <20050522170657.GA27042@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 5/22/05, Andrew Overholt wrote: > * Justin Conover [2005-05-19 12:52]: > > > > Just curious of the M7 will be released/rebuilt before FC4 is out? > > We'd like to have it out, but there are a few issues that we're working out > first. I hope the have everything sorted out today. > > Andrew > Cool :D From davej at redhat.com Mon May 23 18:09:38 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:09:38 -0400 Subject: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? In-Reply-To: References: <1116823277.2955.0.camel@yoda.loki.me> <003c01c55faa$1c236d50$0a01a8c0@jbsys> <1116868950.5520.0.camel@jkeating2.hq.pogolinux.com> Message-ID: <20050523180938.GD29296@redhat.com> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:57:38PM -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > I would have excluded device drivers from this category or goal, > _especially_ if they are shown to work ok under mainline kernel > releases as well as are part of the upcoming/future kernel releases. The problem is a lot of drivers that live outside the kernel.org tree are _awful_. Its not until they get submitted for inclusion upstream that they go through peer-review and get various issues worked out. The question to keep asking is "If its not upstream, there's a reason. If that reason is code-quality, why is it good enough for Fedora?" Another issue is the burden it adds to the distro kernel maintainer (ie, me right now). There are two 'add-on' drivers in the Fedora kernel tree right now (ipw2100 and ipw2200), and it's a complete pain for me to have to run off and download extra drivers, bend them to fit the fedora kernel, fix up any additional problems that get reported etc. I really regret my decision of merging them, though I know there are countless users of those drivers who are glad that I merged them. New code, be it drivers/filesystems whatever has to go upstream, or at the least show signs of 'going upstream soon'. Dave From akonstam at trinity.edu Mon May 23 18:35:33 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:35:33 -0500 Subject: Acrobat 7 does not run in FC4 3.92 In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18BE6271@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18BE6271@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <20050523183533.GA20614@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:55:03AM +0300, Fred New wrote: > Rodd Clarkson > On Sun 5/22/2005 1:04 AM, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 16:47 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 18:32 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > > > > > > > root at chandana other]# rpm -ivh AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386.rpm > > > > error: Failed dependencies: > > > > libstdc++.so.5 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > > libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) is needed by > > > > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > > libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by > > > > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > > > > > > Is there a set of compatibility that can be installed to resolve this ? > > > > > > Try the compat-libstdc++ package in rawhide and see if that helps. > > > > Chandana, > > > > It's more than likely that Acrobat is still expecting to find gcc-3.2 > > libraries to work with. Since Fedora has moved to gcc-4.0, you'll (more > > than likely) need to add the libraries above to satisfy it's needs. > > > I have Acrobat Reader 7 running on my FC4T3 system. You just need to > install compat-libstdc++-33. > > Fred acroread runs on my system and I don't have compat-libstdc++-33 installed. First off I used the tar.gz version. When I try to download the rpm version form Adobe foxfire responds by going into helix-player for a reason I cannot fathom. > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- ======================================================================= To believe your own thought, to believe that what is true for you in your private heart is true for all men -- that is genius. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From mgb-fedora at yosemite.net Mon May 23 18:28:54 2005 From: mgb-fedora at yosemite.net (Mike Bird) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:28:54 -0700 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116872933.4238.37.camel@mgb.bullion.ims> On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 23:50, Dan Hollis wrote: > xfs and reiserfs are _huge_ wins over ext3 for news servers. You might want to try cnfs storage and buffindexed overview. They'll outperform any tradspool. --Mike Bird From ttaranov at gmail.com Mon May 23 18:34:06 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:34:06 -0400 Subject: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? In-Reply-To: <20050523180938.GD29296@redhat.com> References: <1116823277.2955.0.camel@yoda.loki.me> <003c01c55faa$1c236d50$0a01a8c0@jbsys> <1116868950.5520.0.camel@jkeating2.hq.pogolinux.com> <20050523180938.GD29296@redhat.com> Message-ID: > The question to keep asking is "If its not upstream, there's a reason. > If that reason is code-quality, why is it good enough for Fedora?" .... > New code, be it drivers/filesystems whatever has to go upstream, > or at the least show signs of 'going upstream soon'. ... Totally agree. In fact, the driver that I started this thread about satisfies the above - it's pretty much a given that it'll be in one of the upcoming kernel releases. On a side note, as completely new to Fedora I was very satisfied with its driver support - besides raid controller, not a hinch with any of the drivers for my hardware that came with FC4 out of the box - keep up the good work! Thanks, Tim On 5/23/05, Dave Jones wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:57:38PM -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > > I would have excluded device drivers from this category or goal, > > _especially_ if they are shown to work ok under mainline kernel > > releases as well as are part of the upcoming/future kernel releases. > > The problem is a lot of drivers that live outside the kernel.org tree > are _awful_. Its not until they get submitted for inclusion upstream > that they go through peer-review and get various issues worked out. > > The question to keep asking is "If its not upstream, there's a reason. > If that reason is code-quality, why is it good enough for Fedora?" > > Another issue is the burden it adds to the distro kernel maintainer > (ie, me right now). There are two 'add-on' drivers in the Fedora > kernel tree right now (ipw2100 and ipw2200), and it's a complete > pain for me to have to run off and download extra drivers, bend > them to fit the fedora kernel, fix up any additional problems > that get reported etc. I really regret my decision of merging them, > though I know there are countless users of those drivers who are > glad that I merged them. > > New code, be it drivers/filesystems whatever has to go upstream, > or at the least show signs of 'going upstream soon'. > > Dave > > From dcbw at redhat.com Mon May 23 19:06:24 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:06:24 -0400 Subject: Acrobat 7 does not run in FC4 3.92 In-Reply-To: <20050523183533.GA20614@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18BE6271@eemail1.microlink.lan> <20050523183533.GA20614@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116875184.5317.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 13:35 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:55:03AM +0300, Fred New wrote: > > Rodd Clarkson > > On Sun 5/22/2005 1:04 AM, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 16:47 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 18:32 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > > > > > > > > > root at chandana other]# rpm -ivh AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386.rpm > > > > > error: Failed dependencies: > > > > > libstdc++.so.5 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > > > libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) is needed by > > > > > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > > > libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by > > > > > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > > > > > > > > Is there a set of compatibility that can be installed to resolve this ? > > > > > > > > Try the compat-libstdc++ package in rawhide and see if that helps. > > > > > > Chandana, > > > > > > It's more than likely that Acrobat is still expecting to find gcc-3.2 > > > libraries to work with. Since Fedora has moved to gcc-4.0, you'll (more > > > than likely) need to add the libraries above to satisfy it's needs. > > > > > I have Acrobat Reader 7 running on my FC4T3 system. You just need to > > install compat-libstdc++-33. > > > > Fred > acroread runs on my system and I don't have compat-libstdc++-33 > installed. First off I used the tar.gz version. When I try to download > the rpm version form Adobe foxfire responds by going into helix-player > for a reason I cannot fathom. In the RealPlayer/HelixPlayer world, .rpm == Real Player Media IIRC. Chalk it up to bad mime-type info from the server, and bad mime-type sniffing and/or helper identification from firefox. Dan From sundaram at redhat.com Mon May 23 19:10:41 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:40:41 +0530 Subject: Acrobat 7 does not run in FC4 3.92 In-Reply-To: <1116875184.5317.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18BE6271@eemail1.microlink.lan> <20050523183533.GA20614@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116875184.5317.14.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <42922AB1.1090606@redhat.com> Hi >In the RealPlayer/HelixPlayer world, .rpm == Real Player Media IIRC. >Chalk it up to bad mime-type info from the server, and bad mime-type >sniffing and/or helper identification from firefox. > >Dan > > I dont think Realplayer RPM media files exist anymore. It has been obsoleted for a long time now. It makes sense to avoid this association in HelixPlayer RPMs supplied in Fedora. regards Rahul From aoliva at redhat.com Mon May 23 19:20:40 2005 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 23 May 2005 16:20:40 -0300 Subject: Two SELINUX Problems with YP In-Reply-To: <1116861225.5448.3.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <1116861225.5448.3.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: On May 23, 2005, "Thomas J. Baker" wrote: > Bugzilla keeps giving me blank pages when I try to submit a bug I thought I'd point out that this often happens if you paste too much information (such as long logs) in the description, instead of attaching them after opening the bug. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From janina at rednote.net Mon May 23 19:30:26 2005 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:30:26 -0400 Subject: Bug 124248 Fixed--Can we have in FC4? Message-ID: <20050523193026.GA12493@rednote.net> Lee Bcc: Subject: Re: Raising the bar for FC4 Reply-To: In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.11-1.14_FC3spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html I understand the telnet bug fix is now in CVS, so can this fix please make FC4? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124248 Those of us who really need telnet install, REALLY need it. For us it's critical. I may be mistaken, but I believe it does not impact anyone who isn't actually needing it. Thanks. Thanks also to Jeremy Katz for getting the fix in, and to Jim Cornette for his help reporting the problem in the first instance. Elliot Lee writes: > Hi all, > > Fedora Core 4 public release is currently targeted for Monday, June 6. To > hit that, we need some time in advance doing QA and final polishing. For > test releases that is usually about a week, but this is the final FC4 > release so we need a bit of extra time to do the final steps. > > This means that Monday, May 23 is the final final freeze for FC4. After > that, the bar for accepting changes into FC4 is even higher. Fixes will > need to be for showstopper bugs (data corruption, crashing programs, and > other things that impact a large percentage of users in a major way). I've > sent out reminder e-mails to people who currently own FC4Target and > FC4Blocker bugs in bugzilla, so you should know if you have specific bugs > to address. > > If you don't have any bugs to address, you can still help by doing test > installs of rawhide. I'll also try to get a few intermediate test trees > out for people to install. > > If the plan needs clarification, please let me know! > -- Elliot > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. From janina at rednote.net Mon May 23 19:31:08 2005 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:31:08 -0400 Subject: Bug 124248 Fixed--Can we have in FC4? Message-ID: <20050523193026.GA12493@rednote.net> Lee Bcc: Subject: Re: Raising the bar for FC4 Reply-To: In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.11-1.14_FC3spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html I understand the telnet bug fix is now in CVS, so can this fix please make FC4? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124248 Those of us who really need telnet install, REALLY need it. For us it's critical. I may be mistaken, but I believe it does not impact anyone who isn't actually needing it. Thanks. Thanks also to Jeremy Katz for getting the fix in, and to Jim Cornette for his help reporting the problem in the first instance. Elliot Lee writes: > Hi all, > > Fedora Core 4 public release is currently targeted for Monday, June 6. To > hit that, we need some time in advance doing QA and final polishing. For > test releases that is usually about a week, but this is the final FC4 > release so we need a bit of extra time to do the final steps. > > This means that Monday, May 23 is the final final freeze for FC4. After > that, the bar for accepting changes into FC4 is even higher. Fixes will > need to be for showstopper bugs (data corruption, crashing programs, and > other things that impact a large percentage of users in a major way). I've > sent out reminder e-mails to people who currently own FC4Target and > FC4Blocker bugs in bugzilla, so you should know if you have specific bugs > to address. > > If you don't have any bugs to address, you can still help by doing test > installs of rawhide. I'll also try to get a few intermediate test trees > out for people to install. > > If the plan needs clarification, please let me know! > -- Elliot > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. From tjb at unh.edu Mon May 23 19:30:47 2005 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:30:47 -0400 Subject: Two SELINUX Problems with YP In-Reply-To: References: <1116861225.5448.3.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1116876647.5448.5.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 16:20 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On May 23, 2005, "Thomas J. Baker" wrote: > > > Bugzilla keeps giving me blank pages when I try to submit a bug > > I thought I'd point out that this often happens if you paste too much > information (such as long logs) in the description, instead of > attaching them after opening the bug. > Thanks. That was the problem. So the dovecot bug is #158583. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From ttaranov at gmail.com Mon May 23 19:33:33 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:33:33 -0400 Subject: ext3 compiled-in vs module in FC4 Message-ID: Hi - I was wondering why FC4 has ext3 as a kernel module rather than having it compiled into the kernel? The reason I'm asking is because I encountered an issue with booting FC4 from a raid volume with ext3 compiled as a module (the default configuration) - the kernel would panic after not being able to mount /. After I rebuilt the kernel to have the ext3 compiled-into the kernel, the booting problem went away (my /boot and / are ext3-based, running off a h/w raid controller based volume). I was using the default FC4 test 3 at the time - I haven't tried it with the latest kernel, but I suspect the results may be the same. Thanks, Tim From jon780 at gmail.com Mon May 23 20:10:50 2005 From: jon780 at gmail.com (Jon 780) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:10:50 -0500 Subject: yum hates me ... openoffice dependency problem with libjawt.so.6 (i swear its there!) Message-ID: --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package: openoffice.org-core --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core [root at nb01 ~]# slocate libjawt /usr/lib64/libjawt.so.6.0.0 /usr/lib64/libjawt.so.6 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.0.0/32/libjawt.so /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.0.0/libjawt.so /usr/lib/libjawt.so.6.0.0 /usr/lib/libjawt.so.6 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-1.4.2.0/jre/lib/x86_64/libjawt.so Ok, so after further investigation: [root at nb01 ~]# cat /etc/ld.so.conf include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf [root at nb01 ~]# ls -l /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ total 32 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 Apr 28 09:14 qt-i386.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22 Apr 28 15:12 qt-x86_64.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15 Apr 30 13:27 xorg-x11-i386.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17 Apr 30 13:22 xorg-x11-x86_64.conf Shouldn't I have /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 in my ld.so.conf? Possibly why it can't find the libraries? From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 23 20:20:05 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:20:05 +0100 Subject: yum hates me ... openoffice dependency problem with libjawt.so.6 (i swear its there!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116879605.28095.12.camel@localhost> Hi, > --> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package: openoffice.org-core > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core Yum doesn't hate you. It thinks you're the kindest, loveliest being this side of Ursa Minor. To geteth the package known as OpenOffice 1.9.104, these instructions must ye follow yum -y --exclude=gcc* --exclude=libstdc++* --exclude=libjawt* --exclude=cpp update and things shall workeeeeee (we'll you may have to do a couple of other --excludes, but nothing too bad). TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From shahms at shahms.com Mon May 23 20:25:07 2005 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:25:07 -0700 Subject: yum hates me ... openoffice dependency problem with libjawt.so.6 (i swear its there!) In-Reply-To: <1116879605.28095.12.camel@localhost> References: <1116879605.28095.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <42923C23.2060509@shahms.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Paul wrote: | Hi, | | |>--> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package: openoffice.org-core |>--> Finished Dependency Resolution |>Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core | | | Yum doesn't hate you. It thinks you're the kindest, loveliest being this | side of Ursa Minor. | | To geteth the package known as OpenOffice 1.9.104, these instructions | must ye follow | | yum -y --exclude=gcc* --exclude=libstdc++* --exclude=libjawt* | --exclude=cpp update Or you can just do: # yum update openoffice.org-core Which will pull in all of the openoffice sub-packages as well. The problem is that libjawt is being updated by libgcj, not that it isn't found. The most-recent openoffice.org packages require an older libjawt and the update wants to update both of them, but can't. - -- Shahms E. King Multnomah ESD Public Key: http://shahms.mesd.k12.or.us/~sking/shahms.asc Fingerprint: 1612 054B CE92 8770 F1EA AB1B FEAB 3636 45B2 D75B -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCkjwi/qs2NkWy11sRAhRGAJ4o21FSd9GOSZ9MOzDcIqwWVpQYVgCfYLQh EmNc6+mr7IVV01TqkbW9Dbc= =zox1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 23 20:31:32 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:31:32 +0100 Subject: yum hates me ... openoffice dependency problem with libjawt.so.6 (i swear its there!) In-Reply-To: <42923C23.2060509@shahms.com> References: <1116879605.28095.12.camel@localhost> <42923C23.2060509@shahms.com> Message-ID: <1116880292.28095.16.camel@localhost> Hi, > Or you can just do: > > # yum update openoffice.org-core > > Which will pull in all of the openoffice sub-packages as well. But doesn't pull in the likes of the kernel updates etc. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From davej at redhat.com Mon May 23 20:45:08 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:45:08 -0400 Subject: ext3 compiled-in vs module in FC4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050523204507.GB21952@redhat.com> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:33:33PM -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > Hi - > > I was wondering why FC4 has ext3 as a kernel module rather than having > it compiled into the kernel? > > The reason I'm asking is because I encountered an issue with booting > FC4 from a raid volume with ext3 compiled as a module (the default > configuration) - the kernel would panic after not being able to mount > /. After I rebuilt the kernel to have the ext3 compiled-into the > kernel, the booting problem went away (my /boot and / are ext3-based, > running off a h/w raid controller based volume). > > I was using the default FC4 test 3 at the time - I haven't tried it > with the latest kernel, but I suspect the results may be the same. If your initrd is made correctly, it shouldn't matter which way its built. Dave From ttaranov at gmail.com Mon May 23 20:52:48 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:52:48 -0400 Subject: ext3 compiled-in vs module in FC4 In-Reply-To: <20050523204507.GB21952@redhat.com> References: <20050523204507.GB21952@redhat.com> Message-ID: I thougt so too, howevever double, triple checking everything wasn't helping. Then I found some threads somewhere on google about the same problem and they all were coming having ext3 compiled-in. When I did this - the boot issue went away. On 5/23/05, Dave Jones wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:33:33PM -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > > Hi - > > > > I was wondering why FC4 has ext3 as a kernel module rather than having > > it compiled into the kernel? > > > > The reason I'm asking is because I encountered an issue with booting > > FC4 from a raid volume with ext3 compiled as a module (the default > > configuration) - the kernel would panic after not being able to mount > > /. After I rebuilt the kernel to have the ext3 compiled-into the > > kernel, the booting problem went away (my /boot and / are ext3-based, > > running off a h/w raid controller based volume). > > > > I was using the default FC4 test 3 at the time - I haven't tried it > > with the latest kernel, but I suspect the results may be the same. > > If your initrd is made correctly, it shouldn't matter which way > its built. > > Dave > > From trulsg at broadpark.no Mon May 23 23:38:49 2005 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:38:49 +0000 Subject: yum hates me ... openoffice dependency problem with libjawt.so.6 (i swear its there!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42926989.8000004@broadpark.no> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jon 780 wrote: | --> Running transaction check | --> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package: openoffice.org-core | --> Finished Dependency Resolution | Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core | [root at nb01 ~]# slocate libjawt | /usr/lib64/libjawt.so.6.0.0 | /usr/lib64/libjawt.so.6 | /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.0.0/32/libjawt.so | /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.0.0/libjawt.so | /usr/lib/libjawt.so.6.0.0 | /usr/lib/libjawt.so.6 | /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-1.4.2.0/jre/lib/x86_64/libjawt.so | | Ok, so after further investigation: | [root at nb01 ~]# cat /etc/ld.so.conf | include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf | [root at nb01 ~]# ls -l /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ | total 32 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 Apr 28 09:14 qt-i386.conf | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22 Apr 28 15:12 qt-x86_64.conf | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15 Apr 30 13:27 xorg-x11-i386.conf | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17 Apr 30 13:22 xorg-x11-x86_64.conf | | Shouldn't I have /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 in my ld.so.conf? Possibly | why it can't find the libraries? | Hi, to me the following worked: yum ---exclude=\*4.0.0-8\* update to you it might be \*4.0.0\* or something. And pulled down all updates except the dependecy issues. Regards, Truls -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCkmmIickK29LSyG8RAj+7AJwPv6m4731JijPDHmgJfbwhLjaBwgCgowt+ 5aijs1loQks5XRyF99OaAUg= =tVdb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: trulsg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 237 bytes Desc: not available URL: From off_by_1 at yahoo.com Mon May 23 21:54:33 2005 From: off_by_1 at yahoo.com (Mick Mearns) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: yum hates me In-Reply-To: <42926989.8000004@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <20050523215433.72039.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello; this is the latest problem: --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by package cman-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by package dlm-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by package GFS-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by package gnbd-kernel Dogs have Masters - Siamese Cats have Staff! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverhead at comcast.net Mon May 23 23:16:45 2005 From: silverhead at comcast.net (James W. Bennett) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:16:45 -0500 Subject: ext3 compiled-in vs module in FC4 In-Reply-To: References: <20050523204507.GB21952@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4292645D.2020403@comcast.net> Tim Taranov wrote: >I thougt so too, howevever double, triple checking everything wasn't helping. > >Then I found some threads somewhere on google about the same problem >and they all were coming having ext3 compiled-in. When I did this - >the boot issue went away. > >On 5/23/05, Dave Jones wrote: > > >>On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:33:33PM -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: >> > Hi - >> > >> > I was wondering why FC4 has ext3 as a kernel module rather than having >> > it compiled into the kernel? >> > >> > The reason I'm asking is because I encountered an issue with booting >> > FC4 from a raid volume with ext3 compiled as a module (the default >> > configuration) - the kernel would panic after not being able to mount >> > /. After I rebuilt the kernel to have the ext3 compiled-into the >> > kernel, the booting problem went away (my /boot and / are ext3-based, >> > running off a h/w raid controller based volume). >> > >> > I was using the default FC4 test 3 at the time - I haven't tried it >> > with the latest kernel, but I suspect the results may be the same. >> >>If your initrd is made correctly, it shouldn't matter which way >>its built. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> > > > I am using FC4 test3 and I compiled kernel 2.6.11.10 and ext3 as a modules and I have no problems. It boots clean everytime. From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue May 24 00:04:15 2005 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 02:04:15 +0200 Subject: yum hates me ... openoffice dependency problem with libjawt.so.6 (i swear its there!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050524020415.5ae07cea.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Mon, 23 May 2005 15:10:50 -0500, Jon 780 wrote: > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package: openoffice.org-core > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core > [root at nb01 ~]# slocate libjawt > /usr/lib64/libjawt.so.6.0.0 > /usr/lib64/libjawt.so.6 That test is useless. Whether any package in the RPM database _after_ the new packages have been installed still provides "libjawt.so.6" would be the important part. > Ok, so after further investigation: > [root at nb01 ~]# cat /etc/ld.so.conf > include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf > [root at nb01 ~]# ls -l /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ > total 32 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 Apr 28 09:14 qt-i386.conf > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22 Apr 28 15:12 qt-x86_64.conf > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15 Apr 30 13:27 xorg-x11-i386.conf > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17 Apr 30 13:22 xorg-x11-x86_64.conf > > Shouldn't I have /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 in my ld.so.conf? Possibly > why it can't find the libraries? The answer is "no" to both questions. From ttaranov at gmail.com Tue May 24 01:06:33 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:06:33 -0400 Subject: ext3 compiled-in vs module in FC4 In-Reply-To: <4292645D.2020403@comcast.net> References: <20050523204507.GB21952@redhat.com> <4292645D.2020403@comcast.net> Message-ID: could be that I've fat fingered something while rebuilding kernel for my raid controller (I had to do this to get fc4 to recognize it and boot from it). I was just suprised to find that other people were also having similar issue and having ext3 compiled-in helped (and it help me). I didn't spend much time digging in this - as soon as I got my stuff working, I pretty much forgot about it - that is until I discovered this mailing list. On 5/23/05, James W. Bennett wrote: > Tim Taranov wrote: > > >I thougt so too, howevever double, triple checking everything wasn't helping. > > > >Then I found some threads somewhere on google about the same problem > >and they all were coming having ext3 compiled-in. When I did this - > >the boot issue went away. > > > >On 5/23/05, Dave Jones wrote: > > > > > >>On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:33:33PM -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > >> > Hi - > >> > > >> > I was wondering why FC4 has ext3 as a kernel module rather than having > >> > it compiled into the kernel? > >> > > >> > The reason I'm asking is because I encountered an issue with booting > >> > FC4 from a raid volume with ext3 compiled as a module (the default > >> > configuration) - the kernel would panic after not being able to mount > >> > /. After I rebuilt the kernel to have the ext3 compiled-into the > >> > kernel, the booting problem went away (my /boot and / are ext3-based, > >> > running off a h/w raid controller based volume). > >> > > >> > I was using the default FC4 test 3 at the time - I haven't tried it > >> > with the latest kernel, but I suspect the results may be the same. > >> > >>If your initrd is made correctly, it shouldn't matter which way > >>its built. > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > I am using FC4 test3 and I compiled kernel 2.6.11.10 and ext3 as a > modules and I have no problems. It boots clean everytime. > From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Tue May 24 01:18:59 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:18:59 -0400 Subject: yum - kernel standalone modules In-Reply-To: <20050523215433.72039.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050523215433.72039.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42928103.2000606@insight.rr.com> Mick Mearns wrote: > Hello; > this is the latest problem: > > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by > package cman-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by > package dlm-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by > package GFS-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package > openoffice.org-core > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by > package gnbd-kernel > My surprise was to how large of a gap there was between kernel versions. (1329 to 1340) rpm -qa |grep kernel *kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1340_FC4* GFS-kernel-2.6.11.7-20050519.153509.FC4.1 *kernel-doc-2.6.11-1.1340_FC4* kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 kernel-2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 cman-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.5 gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.27 *kernel-2.6.11-1.1340_FC4* dlm-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.5 No additional modules were pushed to rawhide, but the kernel-1340 installed without complaints from yum. I supposed that the module would need to be different for the new kernel version. I was wrong with this assumption. locate gfs.ko /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4/kernel/fs/gfs/gfs.ko As a test of the database being updated after running updatedb, I ran this and modules in the kernel showed up. locate i810.ko /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1340_FC4/kernel/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-i810.ko /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1340_FC4/kernel/drivers/char/drm/i810.ko /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4/kernel/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-i810.ko /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4/kernel/drivers/char/drm/i810.ko Jim -- Don't come crying to me about your "30 minute compiles"!! I have to build X uphill both ways! In the snow! With bare feet! And we didn't have compilers! We had to translate the C code to mnemonics OURSELVES! And I was 18 before we even had assemblers! From byte at aeon.com.my Tue May 24 01:27:34 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:27:34 +1000 Subject: Badness in local_bh_enable In-Reply-To: <1116405268.428afe144354d@www.ri1.biz> References: <1116405268.428afe144354d@www.ri1.biz> Message-ID: <1116898055.2773.1.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 15:34 +0700, affan at ri1.biz wrote: > I'm testing the 'FC4 test3' now with ATM card > ForeRunner HE155 configured as pppoa server. > When the ppp session connected, > there are a lot of repeated error messages like this : > > Badness in local_bh_enable at kernel/softirq.c:140 (Not tainted) > [] local_bh_enable+0x6f/0x7d If its not in bugzilla, please add it to bugzilla, thanks. Also, include the kernel you have running (uname -a), and other relevant details -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From ttaranov at gmail.com Tue May 24 02:28:34 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:28:34 -0400 Subject: is fc4's yum update supposed to work? Message-ID: I'm trying to update my fc4_test3 install and here is what I get... [root at dualbox ~]# uname -r 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4smp [root at dualbox ~]# yum update blah..blah...blah --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 for package: cman-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution filelists.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 2.8 MB 00:09 developmen: ################################################## 3773/3773 Added 3773 new packages, deleted 0 old in 14.59 seconds filelists.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 844 kB 00:02 extras-dev: ################################################## 1051/1051 Added 1051 new packages, deleted 0 old in 4.04 seconds --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 for package: dlm-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 for package: GFS-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package: openoffice.org-core --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 for package: gnbd-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by package cman-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by package dlm-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by package GFS-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by package gnbd-kernel From davej at redhat.com Tue May 24 02:32:21 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:32:21 -0400 Subject: is fc4's yum update supposed to work? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050524023221.GA8653@redhat.com> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 10:28:34PM -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > I'm trying to update my fc4_test3 install and here is what I get... > > [root at dualbox ~]# uname -r > 2.6.11-1.1286_FC4smp > [root at dualbox ~]# yum update > blah..blah...blah > --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 for package: > cman-kernel > Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution > filelists.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 2.8 MB 00:09 > developmen: ################################################## 3773/3773 > Added 3773 new packages, deleted 0 old in 14.59 seconds > filelists.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 844 kB 00:02 > extras-dev: ################################################## 1051/1051 > Added 1051 new packages, deleted 0 old in 4.04 seconds > --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 for package: > dlm-kernel > Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution > --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 for package: > GFS-kernel > Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution > --> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package: openoffice.org-core > --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 for package: > gnbd-kernel > Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by > package cman-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by > package dlm-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by > package GFS-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1329_FC4 is needed by > package gnbd-kernel Those modules haven't been updated for the newer kernels yet. Dave From sriharivijayaraghavan at yahoo.com.au Tue May 24 04:17:04 2005 From: sriharivijayaraghavan at yahoo.com.au (Srihari Vijayaraghavan) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:17:04 +1000 (EST) Subject: Install of FC4T3 fails to update MBR in Windows dual boot env. Message-ID: <20050524041704.50150.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> A friend of mine had this happened to him: ##### starts here ##### My PC has 3 installs of Windows XP SP2 accessed via Windows boot manager. When I install FC4T3 onto 10 gig of empty space on 2nd hard drive, the install would complete successfully, but on reboot the windows boot manager is still there, with no sign of grub. I have installed 4 times with same result. ##### Ends here ##### It seems as if anaconda 'forgot' to write the Grub on the MBR of the Primary master IDE hard drive. Does this sound like a known bug? Do you need more information? We are happy to raise a bug in bugzilla. A quick search on bugzilla did not reveal a similar bug. 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Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com From Fred.New at microlink.ee Tue May 24 06:12:29 2005 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:12:29 +0300 Subject: Acrobat 7 does not run in FC4 3.92 Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EC36@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 23. mai 2005. a. 21:36, akonstam wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:55:03AM +0300, Fred New wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 18:32 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > > > > > root at chandana other]# rpm -ivh AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386.rpm > > > error: Failed dependencies: > > > libstdc++.so.5 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) is needed by > > > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by > > > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > > > > > Is there a set of compatibility that can be installed > > > to resolve this ? > > > > > I have Acrobat Reader 7 running on my FC4T3 system. You > > just need to install compat-libstdc++-33. > > > > Fred > > acroread runs on my system and I don't have compat-libstdc++-33 > installed. First off I used the tar.gz version. When I try to download > the rpm version form Adobe foxfire responds by going into helix-player > for a reason I cannot fathom. > I may have used the right click in Firefox to save the rpm or used wget to download it. One advantage of using the RPM is that the file contexts get set correctly for SELinux. But because the browser plugin is installed outside of rpm, you still need to restorecon the plugin: # /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/install_browser_plugin # restorecon /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so (Assuming that this is where you installed the plugin.) Fred From mefoster at gmail.com Tue May 24 06:43:05 2005 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:43:05 +0100 Subject: "GRUB" on boot after last night's rawhide updates Message-ID: I did all the rawhide updates (with --exclude=4.0.0-8\*, of course) last night. When I went to boot my computer this morning, it just said "GRUB " and stopped there. I booted the rescue CD and redid grub-install on my main hard drive, and now things are working again. I have no idea what happened, or how to track it down; did this happen to anyone else? If not, I'll just chalk it up to the phase of the moon or something. MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From cimmo at libero.it Tue May 24 08:18:31 2005 From: cimmo at libero.it (Cimmo) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:18:31 +0200 Subject: Install of FC4T3 fails to update MBR in Windows dual boot env. In-Reply-To: <20050524041704.50150.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050524041704.50150.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4292E357.3020008@libero.it> Srihari Vijayaraghavan ha scritto: >It seems as if anaconda 'forgot' to write the Grub on >the MBR of the Primary master IDE hard drive. Does >this sound like a known bug? Do you need more >information? > > It depends: during installation Anaconda say to you in which hard disk will install Grub, have you checked that the correct hard disk where choosen to install grub into? Gives more informations... From rodd at clarkson.id.au Tue May 24 10:53:24 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:53:24 +1000 Subject: any chance for areca raid driver patch in FC4? In-Reply-To: <20050523180938.GD29296@redhat.com> References: <1116823277.2955.0.camel@yoda.loki.me> <003c01c55faa$1c236d50$0a01a8c0@jbsys> <1116868950.5520.0.camel@jkeating2.hq.pogolinux.com> <20050523180938.GD29296@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116932004.14547.3.camel@goose> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 14:09 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > Another issue is the burden it adds to the distro kernel maintainer > (ie, me right now). There are two 'add-on' drivers in the Fedora > kernel tree right now (ipw2100 and ipw2200), and it's a complete > pain for me to have to run off and download extra drivers, bend > them to fit the fedora kernel, fix up any additional problems > that get reported etc. I really regret my decision of merging them, > though I know there are countless users of those drivers who are > glad that I merged them. Dave, Given the burden it is maintaining these drivers, I'd just like to take the time to thank you for doing so (along with the great work in general you do with getting the kernel ready for FC). As someone who, with my last network card, had to recompile the driver with each kernel upgrade (and you don't realize (well maybe you do) how many kernel upgrades there are until you have to recompile drivers for each kernel), I can't tell you how nice it is to have these drivers in the kernel and to have my hardware Just Work (TM). So, thank you so very much. You time and effort in maintaining these drivers is really appreciated. Rodd. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl Tue May 24 11:02:29 2005 From: jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl (David Jansen) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:02:29 +0200 Subject: Acrobat 7 does not run in FC4 3.92 In-Reply-To: <42922AB1.1090606@redhat.com> References: <42922AB1.1090606@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050524110229.GA20411@strw.leidenuniv.nl> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:40:41AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > >In the RealPlayer/HelixPlayer world, .rpm == Real Player Media IIRC. > >Chalk it up to bad mime-type info from the server, and bad mime-type > >sniffing and/or helper identification from firefox. > > > >Dan > > > > > I dont think Realplayer RPM media files exist anymore. It has been > obsoleted for a long time now. It makes sense to avoid this association > in HelixPlayer RPMs supplied in Fedora. > regards > Rahul The error is entirely server side. If a server says a file is some type (eg Real Player Media)then firefox accepts that. So notify the administrator of the server that served you the wrong mime type. It is probably possible to fix it in firefox, but it is not the correct fix (IMHO). David Jansen From luc.maignan at winxpert.com Tue May 24 10:59:09 2005 From: luc.maignan at winxpert.com (Luc MAIGNAN) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:59:09 +0200 Subject: Change of type of keyboard Message-ID: <429308FD.8060108@winxpert.com> As the tool 'redhat-config-keyboard' has been deleted, how is it possible to modify the key-table for the beyboard ? I have modified the file /etc/sysconfig/keyboard and I didn't find a service to take the new configuration. Idea ? regards From sundaram at redhat.com Tue May 24 11:45:02 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:15:02 +0530 Subject: Change of type of keyboard In-Reply-To: <429308FD.8060108@winxpert.com> References: <429308FD.8060108@winxpert.com> Message-ID: <429313BE.2090707@redhat.com> Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > As the tool 'redhat-config-keyboard' has been deleted, how is it > possible to modify the key-table for the beyboard ? Use system-config-keyboard instead redhat-config-* has been renamed into system-config-* regards Rahul From buildsys at redhat.com Tue May 24 11:48:17 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:48:17 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050524 changes Message-ID: <200505241148.j4OBmHDC013267@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: GFS-kernel-2.6.11.7-20050519.153509.FC4.3 ----------------------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Chris Feist - Fixed depmod in %post scriptlet to use correct kernel. anaconda-10.2.1.0-1 ------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Jeremy Katz - 10.2.1.0-1 - Branch for FC4, betanag is off - Hack around usb-storage slowness at finding devices that leads to the reload not occurring - Handle FC3 swap label format and convert to right format (#158195) - Only set things up to change the default kernel if we're booting us (#158195) - Fix deps on upgrades (#157754) - Try to keep install screen from moving with length of strings - Fix autopart problem leaving some freespace the size of where you started your partition growing - Allow excluding name.arch in kickstart (Dave Lehman, #158370) - Don't spew an error if essid or wepkey isn't set (#158223) - Add megaraid and other new drivers (#157420) - Left pad RAID uuid (clumens, #136051) - synaptics tweak (pnasrat) - Fix telnetd to use devpts instead of legacy ptys (#124248) ant-0:1.6.2-3jpp_8fc -------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Gary Benson 0:1.6.2-3jpp_8fc - Use absolute paths for rebuild-gcj-db. * Mon May 23 2005 Gary Benson 0:1.6.2-3jpp_7fc - Build the javah task (#157750). - Add alpha to the list of build architectures (#157522). * Thu May 05 2005 Gary Benson 0:1.6.2-3jpp_6fc - Add dependencies for %post and %postun scriptlets (#156901). cman-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.7 ------------------------------------------ * Mon May 23 2005 Chris Feist - Fixed depmod in %post scriptlet to use correct kernel. dlm-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.7 ----------------------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Chris Feist - Fixed depmod in %post scriptlet to use correct kernel. filesystem-2.3.4-1 ------------------ * Mon May 23 2005 Bill Nottingham - 2.3.4-1 - ship /usr/share/games (#158433, ) * Thu May 05 2005 Peter Jones - 2.3.3-1 - remove /initrd, since mkinitrd doesn't use it anymore by default gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.29 ------------------------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Chris Feist - Fixed depmod in %post scriptlet to use correct kernel. gnome-desktop-2.10.0-5 ---------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Ray Strode - 2.10.0-5 - Let's try this gettext patch one more time--maybe, just maybe, I'll get it right this time (bug 155659). gulm-1.0-0.pre30.1 ------------------ hal-0.5.2-2 ----------- * Mon May 23 2005 David Zeuthen 0.5.2-2 - Fix doublefree when locking (#158474) - Never use the 'sync' mount option (#157674) - Update the fstab-sync man page (#158483) hotplug-3:2004_09_23-7 ---------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Bill Nottingham 3:2004_09_23-7 - fix path to /sbin/ifrename (#158564) httpd-2.0.54-10 --------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Joe Orton 2.0.54-10 - remove broken symlink (Robert Scheck, #158404) iiimf-1:12.2-4 -------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Jens Petersen - 1:12.2-4 - really move gnome-im-properties.desktop to applications dir (#149226) - pass _target_platform instead of _host to update-gtk-immodules jakarta-commons-beanutils-0:1.7.0-1jpp_4fc ------------------------------------------ * Mon May 23 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.7.0-1jpp_4fc - Add alpha to the list of build architectures (#157522). - Use absolute paths for rebuild-gcj-db. jakarta-commons-collections-0:3.1-1jpp_4fc ------------------------------------------ * Mon May 23 2005 Gary Benson - 0:3.1-1jpp_4fc - Add alpha to the list of build architectures (#157522). - Use absolute paths for rebuild-gcj-db. jakarta-commons-digester-0:1.6-2jpp_4fc --------------------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.6-2jpp_4fc - Add alpha to the list of build architectures (#157522). - Use absolute paths for rebuild-gcj-db. jakarta-commons-el-0:1.0-2jpp_3fc --------------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.0-2jpp_3fc - Add alpha to the list of build architectures (#157522). - Use absolute paths for rebuild-gcj-db. jakarta-commons-logging-0:1.0.4-2jpp_4fc ---------------------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.0.4-2jpp_4fc - Add alpha to the list of build architectures (#157522). - Use absolute paths for rebuild-gcj-db. jakarta-commons-modeler-0:1.1-3jpp_4fc -------------------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.1-3jpp_4fc - Add alpha to the list of build architectures (#157522). - Use absolute paths for rebuild-gcj-db. kernel-2.6.11-1.1341_FC4 ------------------------ * Sun May 22 2005 Dave Jones - 2.6.12-rc4-git6 MMC update, reiserfs fixes, AIO fix. libgal2-2:2.4.2-3 ----------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Elliot Lee - 2:2.4.2-3 - Remove static libraries to save space. libofx-0.7.0-3 -------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Bill Nottingham 0.7.0-3 - remove static libs xen-2-20050522 -------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Rik van Riel 2-20050522 - change default display method for VMX domains to SDL xpdf-1:3.00-19 -------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Than Ngo 3.00-19 - apply patch to fix texts in non-embedded cjk font disappear, (#158509) From tmraz at redhat.com Tue May 24 11:52:46 2005 From: tmraz at redhat.com (Tomas Mraz) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:52:46 +0200 Subject: Change of type of keyboard In-Reply-To: <429308FD.8060108@winxpert.com> References: <429308FD.8060108@winxpert.com> Message-ID: <1116935567.6013.8.camel@perun.redhat.usu> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 12:59 +0200, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > As the tool 'redhat-config-keyboard' has been deleted, how is it > possible to modify the key-table for the beyboard ? I have modified the It was not deleted - only renamed to system-config-keyboard. Also this post is off topic - use the fedora-list at redhat.com next time. -- Tomas Mraz From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 24 13:15:48 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:15:48 -0400 Subject: "GRUB" on boot after last night's rawhide updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa79105052406155483a5e2@mail.gmail.com> On 5/24/05, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > I have no idea what happened, or how to track it down; did this happen > to anyone else? If not, I'll just chalk it up to the phase of the moon > or something. that's very odd. I for one didn't see it, and I'm hardpressed to give you a good idea of what could have caused grub from being able to see its second stage without there being a change to your partitioning or filesystem layout. afaik editting grub.conf isn't enough to cause a problem you saw, so i doubt the postinstall scripts from the kernel update caused this. I'd be somewhat concerned about the health of that disk. Is this a raid configuration by chance? If you really want to dig into it.. you could attempt to revert the last round of updates you did yesterday, assuming you still have cached old versions to revert back to. Then update one package at a time (allowing for deps to be pulled in of course) between reboots. See if you can re-create the problem. -jef From sds at tycho.nsa.gov Tue May 24 13:33:49 2005 From: sds at tycho.nsa.gov (Stephen Smalley) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:33:49 -0400 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <429181A9.6010808@redhat.com> References: <429181A9.6010808@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116941629.27904.56.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 12:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > > >A pity selinux doesnt work on reiserfs yet, but selinux has serious > >growing pains atm so we will wait for selinux to stabilize before we worry > >about that. > > > > > There is a patch for reiserfs to support xattr but upstream isnt > interested. An explanation of the "growing pains" would also be useful Actually, reiserfs xattr support went upstream a while back, and fixes to the reiserfs xattr support to allow use with SELinux are included in kernels >= 2.6.12-rc1 (and thus in the FC4 kernels). -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From mefoster at gmail.com Tue May 24 13:48:44 2005 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:48:44 +0100 Subject: "GRUB" on boot after last night's rawhide updates In-Reply-To: <604aa79105052406155483a5e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa79105052406155483a5e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 5/24/05, Jeff Spaleta wrote: [ I described my booting problems this morning ] > that's very odd. I for one didn't see it, and I'm hardpressed to give > you a good idea of what could have caused grub from being able to see > its second stage without there being a change to your partitioning or > filesystem layout. afaik editting grub.conf isn't enough to cause a > problem you saw, so i doubt the postinstall scripts from the kernel > update caused this. I'd be somewhat concerned about the health of that > disk. Yup; in the past, when I've messed up grub.conf, I would get dropped into the GRUB shell, which looks different than what I saw this morning. I'd be sad if the disk were dying; this is my new laptop, which is only about 2 months old ... I didn't investigate further this morning, because I just wanted to boot and check my email, and when "grub-install" from rescue mode worked I stopped playing. > Is this a raid configuration by chance? Nope: all one hard drive. I *had* been playing with the partitioning over the weekend, but as far as I recall I didn't do anything yesterday. Unless it recurs, I think I'm going to put it down as "just one of those things". MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 24 14:36:54 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:36:54 -0500 Subject: Install of FC4T3 fails to update MBR in Windows dual boot env. In-Reply-To: <20050524041704.50150.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050524041704.50150.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050524143654.GA24058@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 02:17:04PM +1000, Srihari Vijayaraghavan wrote: > A friend of mine had this happened to him: > > ##### starts here ##### > My PC has 3 installs of Windows XP SP2 accessed via > Windows boot manager. > When I install FC4T3 onto 10 gig of empty space on 2nd > hard drive, the install would complete successfully, > but on reboot the windows boot manager is still there, > with no sign of grub. I have installed 4 times with > same result. > ##### Ends here ##### > > It seems as if anaconda 'forgot' to write the Grub on > the MBR of the Primary master IDE hard drive. Does > this sound like a known bug? Do you need more > information? > > We are happy to raise a bug in bugzilla. A quick > search on bugzilla did not reveal a similar bug. > Well first we did exactly the same thing and it worked with Linux and Windows both booting. I would agree we need toi be sure that the grub was installed on the right drive: In any case at this point you can use the rescue disk to install grub in the MBR. Just in case the process is as follows: Boot the rescue disk and at some point it will identify you linux and mount it on /mnt/sysimage. Then run a : chroot /mnt/sysimage Check on your /boot/grub/grub.conf to see if it is correct. Both the linux and Windows can be booted from the grub you will install in MBR. Then to do the installation you can do it one of two ways: 1. grub-install /dev/hda 2. The series of commands: grub grub> root (hd0,4) <--- the 4 must be changed if your linuxis on a different partition. grub> setup (hd0) grub> quit Although the first option is easier to type the second works more consistently. If you don't know how to set up windows in grub it is with the lines: title windows rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 Now if the MBR boot sectors are stubborn and will no be erased you can remove them by the command: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 -- ======================================================================= ... I see TOILET SEATS ... ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From ken at geekystuff.net Tue May 24 16:51:05 2005 From: ken at geekystuff.net (Ken Nordquist) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:51:05 -0400 Subject: Rolling Own Kernel Message-ID: <1116953466.18965.7.camel@kn.home.geekystuff.net> I wanted to make some changes in a kernel for a test but ran into some errors after 'make menuconfig'. I have an x86_64 system. When running 'make' or 'make bzImage' I get the following error(s): make[1]: *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'. Stop. make: *** [init] Error 2 Am I missing something easy? Regards, Ken Nordquist From kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu Tue May 24 14:35:23 2005 From: kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu (Kevin H. Hobbs) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:35:23 -0400 Subject: Rolling Own Kernel In-Reply-To: <1116953466.18965.7.camel@kn.home.geekystuff.net> References: <1116953466.18965.7.camel@kn.home.geekystuff.net> Message-ID: <1116945324.30941.34.camel@gargon.hooperlab> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 12:51 -0400, Ken Nordquist wrote: > I wanted to make some changes in a kernel for a test but ran into some > errors after 'make menuconfig'. I have an x86_64 system. > > When running 'make' or 'make bzImage' I get the following error(s): > > make[1]: *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by > `init/built-in.o'. Stop. > make: *** [init] Error 2 > > Am I missing something easy? > > Regards, > > Ken Nordquist > I put up a web page about building a kernel from a kernel source rpm here: http://crab-lab.zool.ohiou.edu/kevin/kernel-compilation-tutorial-en/ It's very rough, but the advantage is that rpm handles most of the "Am I missing something easy?" sorts of things. Of course you have to learn rpm a little and miss other easy things, but what the heck. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From pete.pinter at gmail.com Tue May 24 15:20:02 2005 From: pete.pinter at gmail.com (Pete Pinter) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:20:02 -0600 Subject: CD boot problem with FC4test1 AND test2 Message-ID: Just tried booting in the FC4T3 Rescue disk to see if this problem lives on with Test 3 and Dell Latitude C600 laptops. U guessed it... no joy. Oh well, maybe T4? From byte at aeon.com.my Tue May 24 15:33:52 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 01:33:52 +1000 Subject: FC4T3 on Mac-Mini with SmartDisk attached In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116948832.2773.62.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 17:40 +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > I don't know if the behaviour is by design, or avoidable, but I > installed > FC4T3 on a Mac-Mini with a SmartDisk USB Floppy disk attached and I > was > continually prompted that /tmp/sda could not be opened. Not a big > deal, I > just restarted the computer with the SmartDisk detached and I didn't > get the > prompts, and the install went on normally. It was darned annoying > trying to > go through the install with it attached though. That'd be USB floppy disk drive, or one of those thumbdrive things? If it was USB floppy disk drive, was there a disk inside? Did the messages go away when a disk was inserted? Have you tried this on another machine other than the Mac mini (i.e. an x86 or something)? Thanks -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From sds at tycho.nsa.gov Tue May 24 15:27:02 2005 From: sds at tycho.nsa.gov (Stephen Smalley) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:27:02 -0400 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c2a4e25050521115866708e7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1116948422.27904.131.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 12:58 -0600, John P Poet wrote: > I have been happily running Fedora Core 2 for a year. > > I just tried to install Fedora Core 4T3, but it fails with: > ------------------------------------- > There was an error installing cracklib-dicts-2.8.2-1. This can > indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. > This is a fatal error and your install will be aborted. > ------------------------------------- > > If I switch over to F3, I see: > ------------------------------------- > Setting file_context_path to /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/file_contexts > ------------------------------------- > > F4 shows: > ------------------------------------- > <6>SELinux: initialized (dev hda3, type xfs), uses xattr > <4>post_create: setxatter failed, rc=1 (dev=hda7 ino=16449) > ------------------------------------- > > My partion layout is: > > hda1: /boot (ext3) > hda2: swap > hda3: /home (xfs) > hda4: extended > hda5: / (Fedora core 2) (ext3) > hda6: / (alternate root) (jfs) > hda7: / (Fedora core 4T3) (jfs) > > I booted off the DVD with "linux jfs", so it would allow me to format > the root partion with jfs. > I told it not to install SELinux. > > I did test the media, and it is fine. Pretty sure my hardware is > okay, since Fedora Core 2 is quite happy running on it. > > Any other information I can provide to help track this problem down? The errno displayed by post_create was EPERM. Looking at the jfs code, it appears that they return EPERM from can_set_xattr() if the file is a symlink. SELinux attempts to label all files, including symlinks. Please report to the jfs maintainers, as it is a bug in their code. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From byte at aeon.com.my Tue May 24 15:35:17 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 01:35:17 +1000 Subject: FC4t3 selinux relabel not working? In-Reply-To: <200505211429.04963.jvdias@redhat.com> References: <1116688442.5311.4.camel@rivendell.home.local> <200505211429.04963.jvdias@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116948917.2773.64.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 14:29 -0400, Jason Vas Dias wrote: > I noticed this last week - if you press the right-hand > ++ > keys the HD led starts flashing again and the relabel resumes and > eventually > completes. What's the Mac equivalent, for us PPC users if we encounted this? -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From byte at aeon.com.my Tue May 24 15:59:22 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 01:59:22 +1000 Subject: rawhide report: 20050524 changes In-Reply-To: References: <200505241148.j4OBmHDC013267@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116950362.2773.72.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 11:12 -0400, sean wrote: > Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package > openoffice.org-core > > > I think it's because of: > > ---> Package libgcj.i386 0:4.0.0-8 set to be updated yum --exclude \*4.0.0-8\* update -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From dcbw at redhat.com Tue May 24 16:13:57 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:13:57 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050524 changes In-Reply-To: References: <200505241148.j4OBmHDC013267@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116951237.1498.13.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 11:12 -0400, sean wrote: > yum upgrade > > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package: > openoffice.org-core > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package > openoffice.org-core > > > I think it's because of: > > ---> Package libgcj.i386 0:4.0.0-8 set to be updated A new OOo finally got through the build system this morning to deal with this. It should show up tomorrow. Dan From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 24 16:37:00 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:37:00 -0500 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? Message-ID: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Again I am not trying to start a rant I just want to know. I find firefox somewhat inferior to the previous mozilla. Why do people support it so? 1. The ctrl-l option is somewhat worse than the previous ctrl-shift-l option. 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last place I want to put them. 3. The interface to add helper applications is obscure compared to mozilla. And on and on. I guess I am just a curmudgeon. Remember I am not trying to start a rant , I am just very curious why firefox is taking over. -- ======================================================================= It's odd, and a little unsettling, to reflect upon the fact that English is the only major language in which "I" is capitalized; in many other languages "You" is capitalized and the "i" is lower case. -- Sydney J. Harris ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue May 24 16:33:46 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:33:46 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <20050524163346.GA11655@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:37:00AM -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > Again I am not trying to start a rant I just want to know. The only reason it matters for the purposes of this list is: the upstream project has decided to make Firefox/Thunderbird the main focus and no longer update the Mozilla suite. But I also have to comment on this one: > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some > people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last > place I want to put them. DON'T run either Firefox or Mozilla as root! You're playing russian roulette with security problems here. Big, complicated GUI programs should stay in userspace. (That said, you can easily change the default file save location with the option under "Downloads".) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 73 degrees Fahrenheit. From JBuck814366460 at aol.com Tue May 24 16:33:43 2005 From: JBuck814366460 at aol.com (Jared Buck) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:33:43 -0700 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116952423.15143.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> You can change the directory firefox downloads into by going to the Edit - Preferences menu, then selecting downloads. lots of stuff you can change there, including where stuff gets downloaded to. And as for the interface? it's not hard, you just go to the firefox extensions website, then download the extension you want, then restart firefox after it installs. All of them can be individually configured from the Extensions dialog box under the Tools menu (just select the one you want to work with and hit options. Jared On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 11:37 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > Again I am not trying to start a rant I just want to know. > > I find firefox somewhat inferior to the previous mozilla. Why do > people support it so? > > 1. The ctrl-l option is somewhat worse than the previous ctrl-shift-l > option. > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some > people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last > place I want to put them. > 3. The interface to add helper applications is obscure compared to > mozilla. > > And on and on. I guess I am just a curmudgeon. Remember I am not trying > to start a rant , I am just very curious why firefox is taking over. > -- > > ======================================================================= > It's odd, and a little unsettling, to reflect upon the fact that > English is the only major language in which "I" is capitalized; in many > other languages "You" is capitalized and the "i" is lower case. > -- Sydney J. Harris > ------------------------------------------- > Aaron Konstam > Computer Science > Trinity University > One Trinity Place. > San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 > > telephone: (210)-999-7484 > email:akonstam at trinity.edu > From rpa4email at rogers.com Tue May 24 16:39:16 2005 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:39:16 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> On Tuesday 24 May 2005 12:37, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some > people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last > place I want to put them. Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads. Here you can select where you want files to be saved. -Robert. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It should show up tomorrow. > > Dan > Dan, Thanks, that is good news for this "lurker". GC -- Guy R Cook guy at vdomainhosting.com vDomainHosting Inc 360-447-7384 WEBHOSTING DONE RIGHT. From camilo at mesias.co.uk Tue May 24 16:43:13 2005 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:43:13 +0100 Subject: [OT] Re: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <429359A1.80205@mesias.co.uk> akonstam I used to feel the same but I'm now using Firefox & Thunderbird instead of Mozilla. The turning point for me was the improved interface for incremental searching of pages and source (type '/'), and the improved ability of TB to enable images in email on a message-by-message basis. The only problem I have found in configuration is that Mozilla provides a GUI to select the 2nd scroll-wheel action (which goes backwards and forwards through history by default), and Firefox doesn't seem to. This causes erratic skipping through history if you fumble on a Synaptics touchpad which simulates the second scroll wheel. The workaround is to use the power-user about:config URL to locate the setting in mozilla, and replicate it in Firefox: mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.action: 0 -Cam -- camilo at mesias.co.uk <-- From jdennis at redhat.com Tue May 24 16:44:09 2005 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:44:09 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524163346.GA11655@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <20050524163346.GA11655@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <1116953049.5192.6.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:37:00AM -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > root I want them to go into /root Running any browser as root is like having unprotected sex, at some point you're going to deeply regret it. -- John Dennis From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue May 24 17:00:56 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:00:56 +0200 Subject: CD boot problem with FC4test1 AND test2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1116954055.3407.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> tir, 24.05.2005 kl. 17.20 skrev Pete Pinter: > Just tried booting in the FC4T3 Rescue disk to see if this problem > lives on with Test 3 and Dell Latitude C600 laptops. > > U guessed it... no joy. > > Oh well, maybe T4? It might have been fixed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156405 From ttaranov at gmail.com Tue May 24 18:23:52 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:23:52 -0400 Subject: Rolling Own Kernel In-Reply-To: <1116945324.30941.34.camel@gargon.hooperlab> References: <1116953466.18965.7.camel@kn.home.geekystuff.net> <1116945324.30941.34.camel@gargon.hooperlab> Message-ID: having done this a bunch of times (including a couple of fc4 kernel releases) - I find this thread to be helpful http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29434 it's not totally to the letter, but all the steps are there and I'm sure you can fill out the blanks if you intend to do something like this. Make sure you read the full thread though. Also, learn someplace how to configure kernel build with make menuconfig - that's the thing that can make a whole difference in the world (together with knowing how to apply kernel patches: "patch wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 12:51 -0400, Ken Nordquist wrote: > > I wanted to make some changes in a kernel for a test but ran into some > > errors after 'make menuconfig'. I have an x86_64 system. > > > > When running 'make' or 'make bzImage' I get the following error(s): > > > > make[1]: *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by > > `init/built-in.o'. Stop. > > make: *** [init] Error 2 > > > > Am I missing something easy? > > > > Regards, > > > > Ken Nordquist > > > > I put up a web page about building a kernel from a kernel source rpm > here: > > http://crab-lab.zool.ohiou.edu/kevin/kernel-compilation-tutorial-en/ > > It's very rough, but the advantage is that rpm handles most of the "Am I > missing something easy?" sorts of things. Of course you have to learn > rpm a little and miss other easy things, but what the heck. > > > BodyID:15094261.2.n.logpart (stored separately) > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From mefoster at gmail.com Tue May 24 18:35:25 2005 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:35:25 +0100 Subject: Rolling Own Kernel In-Reply-To: <1116945324.30941.34.camel@gargon.hooperlab> References: <1116953466.18965.7.camel@kn.home.geekystuff.net> <1116945324.30941.34.camel@gargon.hooperlab> Message-ID: On 5/24/05, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: > http://crab-lab.zool.ohiou.edu/kevin/kernel-compilation-tutorial-en/ [ probably OT question about rpmbuild coming up ...] On that page it says: ========= 6. Prepare Build Use the rpmbuild prep stage to apply any patches and configure the kernel exactly as it is in the Fedora distribution. rpmbuild -bp --target=ARCH ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/kernel-XXX.spec [... modify configuration inside ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/ ...] 8. Build The Kernel The -bb option to rpmbuild will build the kernel binary package preforming every rpm build stage along the way but with the new configuration. rpmbuild -bb --target=ARCH ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/kernel-XXX.spec ========== I'd always thought that rpmbuild -bb started the whole build process right from scratch, and that there was no point in doing -bp before -bb because it would all get overwritten. Is this wrong? The rpmbuild man page says: -bb Build a binary package (after doing the %prep, %build, and %install stages). ... which has always implied to me that it actually *does* the %prep stage itself when you call rpmbuild -bb. I'd be happy to be proved wrong. MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu Tue May 24 18:44:16 2005 From: kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu (Kevin H. Hobbs) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:44:16 -0400 Subject: Rolling Own Kernel In-Reply-To: References: <1116953466.18965.7.camel@kn.home.geekystuff.net> <1116945324.30941.34.camel@gargon.hooperlab> Message-ID: <1116960256.9070.3.camel@gargon.hooperlab> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 19:35 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > I'd always thought that rpmbuild -bb started the whole build process > right from scratch, and that there was no point in doing -bp before > -bb because it would all get overwritten. Is this wrong? The rpmbuild > man page says: > > -bb Build a binary package (after doing the %prep, %build, and > %install stages). You're right -bp or -ba will destroy the .config. That's why I copied it to the source directory. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 24 19:40:44 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:40:44 +0100 Subject: From FC2 to 4t3 - slight hiccup Message-ID: <1116963645.2712.2.camel@localhost> Hi, The update went mostly okay except for a couple of problems. The first is that I can't update anything. rpm is giving me db3 and db4 errors as well as saying it cannot read /var/lib/rpm. I've tried yum -y update rpm yum. yum downloads the files, but cannot install them. Second one is that I'm sort of getting an X server - the screen goes grey with lots of blotches. The machine hasn't crashed, but you can't get to a desktop. The first is more important than the second, does anyone have any idea on fixing it? TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 24 19:52:00 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:52:00 -0400 Subject: From FC2 to 4t3 - slight hiccup In-Reply-To: <1116963645.2712.2.camel@localhost> References: <1116963645.2712.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <604aa791050524125253a4e59a@mail.gmail.com> On 5/24/05, Paul wrote: > The update went mostly okay except for a couple of problems. The first > is that I can't update anything. rpm is giving me db3 and db4 errors as > well as saying it cannot read /var/lib/rpm. relating exact error messages and the commands that generate them might help. this was an upgrade using the fc4t3 installer's upgrade option? -jef From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 24 20:12:05 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:12:05 -0500 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1116952423.15143.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116952423.15143.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050524201205.GA25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 09:33:43AM -0700, Jared Buck wrote: > You can change the directory firefox downloads into by going to the Edit > - Preferences menu, then selecting downloads. lots of stuff you can > change there, including where stuff gets downloaded to. This is not true. You can put it in any directory but your home directory. > > And as for the interface? it's not hard, you just go to the firefox > extensions website, then download the extension you want, then restart > firefox after it installs. All of them can be individually configured > from the Extensions dialog box under the Tools menu (just select the one > you want to work with and hit options. > > Jared To me this is more complicated then going to a helper menu, entering a application type, one or more extensions and the program to deal with files of that type. But again I do not want to start an argument about this. > > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 11:37 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > > Again I am not trying to start a rant I just want to know. > > > > I find firefox somewhat inferior to the previous mozilla. Why do > > people support it so? > > > > 1. The ctrl-l option is somewhat worse than the previous ctrl-shift-l > > option. > > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > > root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some > > people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last > > place I want to put them. > > 3. The interface to add helper applications is obscure compared to > > mozilla. > > > > And on and on. I guess I am just a curmudgeon. Remember I am not trying > > to start a rant , I am just very curious why firefox is taking over. > > -- > > > > ======================================================================= > > It's odd, and a little unsettling, to reflect upon the fact that > > English is the only major language in which "I" is capitalized; in many > > other languages "You" is capitalized and the "i" is lower case. > > -- Sydney J. Harris > > ------------------------------------------- > > Aaron Konstam > > Computer Science > > Trinity University > > One Trinity Place. > > San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 > > > > telephone: (210)-999-7484 > > email:akonstam at trinity.edu > > -- ======================================================================= Real computer scientists like having a computer on their desk, else how could they read their mail? ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 24 20:15:46 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:15:46 -0500 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524163346.GA11655@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <20050524163346.GA11655@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <20050524201546.GB25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:33:46PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:37:00AM -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > > Again I am not trying to start a rant I just want to know. > > The only reason it matters for the purposes of this list is: the upstream > project has decided to make Firefox/Thunderbird the main focus and no longer > update the Mozilla suite. > > But I also have to comment on this one: > > > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > > root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some > > people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last > > place I want to put them. > > DON'T run either Firefox or Mozilla as root! You're playing russian roulette > with security problems here. Big, complicated GUI programs should stay in > userspace. > > (That said, you can easily change the default file save location with the > option under "Downloads".) Ok, I agree downloading as root has dangers. I normally don't do it. But the fact is no matter who you run it as you can not have the downloads go into your home directory, in my experience. But I am willing to learn. If someone can tell me how to do it I would be grateful. ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue May 24 20:02:15 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:02:15 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524201205.GA25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116952423.15143.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524201205.GA25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <20050524200215.GA17977@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:12:05PM -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > > You can change the directory firefox downloads into by going to the Edit > > - Preferences menu, then selecting downloads. lots of stuff you can > > change there, including where stuff gets downloaded to. > This is not true. You can put it in any directory but your home directory. What'dya mean? I tried it, and it set mine to /home/mattdm just fine. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 73 degrees Fahrenheit. From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 24 20:20:49 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:20:49 -0500 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:39:16PM -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > On Tuesday 24 May 2005 12:37, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > > > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > > root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some > > people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last > > place I want to put them. > > Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads. Here you can select where you want files to > be saved. > > -Robert. > Youi know this is facinating. I tried for 1/2 hour, even using the help info. As far as I can see I can put the downloads in any directory except the users home directory. If you can do it let me know how. > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- ======================================================================= Common sense is the most evenly distributed quantity in the world. Everyone thinks he has enough. -- Descartes, 1637 ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From WormLineFiles at gmx.de Tue May 24 20:11:17 2005 From: WormLineFiles at gmx.de (Simon Lanzmich) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:11:17 +0200 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116965478.3316.7.camel@simon.home> Hi, this seems to be a little off-topic here, since this list is just meant to discuss the test release - and firefox is not that new, but I don't mind. Am Dienstag, den 24.05.2005, 11:37 -0500 schrieb akonstam at trinity.edu: > Again I am not trying to start a rant I just want to know. > > I find firefox somewhat inferior to the previous mozilla. Why do > people support it so? > I haven't used the mozilla suite since it was 1.5 IIRC, but imho, firefox feels a lot faster. Further, people may want just a browser, not a complete suite, but this is my opinion. > 1. The ctrl-l option is somewhat worse than the previous ctrl-shift-l > option. > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some > people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last > place I want to put them. You can select a folder in Preferences | Downloads | Save all files to this folder | Other... (from the dropdown list) Besides, I think it is a bad idea to use the root user to browse the web or do other every-day actions. > 3. The interface to add helper applications is obscure compared to > mozilla. > > And on and on. I guess I am just a curmudgeon. Remember I am not trying > to start a rant , I am just very curious why firefox is taking over. > -- From mknepher at bluethingy.com Tue May 24 21:14:58 2005 From: mknepher at bluethingy.com (Michael Knepher) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:14:58 -0700 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 15:20 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:39:16PM -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > > On Tuesday 24 May 2005 12:37, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > > > > > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > > > root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some > > > people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last > > > place I want to put them. > > > > Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads. Here you can select where you want files to > > be saved. > > > > -Robert. > > > Youi know this is facinating. I tried for 1/2 hour, even using the help info. As far as I can > see I can put the downloads in any directory except the users home directory. If you > can do it let me know how. Just how is it keeping you from selecting your home directory? Just a guess, you may be getting bit by the bug, er, I mean "feature", in the latest gtk+ file selector that insists on selecting the first subfolder in a folder. So if you select "Home" in the folder hierarchy tabs or double click the bookmark for your home directory, it will open ~/, but the first folder will be selected. So clicking "Open" will cause that subfolder to be selected, rather than "Home". You'll need to ctrl-click the subfolder to de-select it, then click "Open". > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > -- > > ======================================================================= > Common sense is the most evenly distributed quantity in the world. > Everyone thinks he has enough. > -- Descartes, 1637 > ------------------------------------------- > Aaron Konstam > Computer Science > Trinity University > One Trinity Place. > San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 > > telephone: (210)-999-7484 > email:akonstam at trinity.edu > From selinux at gmail.com Tue May 24 21:17:17 2005 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:17:17 -0700 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530505241417473e235c@mail.gmail.com> On 5/24/05, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:39:16PM -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > > On Tuesday 24 May 2005 12:37, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > > > > > 2. I would like my downloaded files to go in my home directory. So as > > > root I want them to go into /root. That may be unreasonable to some > > > people but it can't be done in firefox. The Desktop folder is the last > > > place I want to put them. > > > > Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads. Here you can select where you want files to > > be saved. > > > > -Robert. > > > Youi know this is facinating. I tried for 1/2 hour, even using the help info. As far as I can > see I can put the downloads in any directory except the users home directory. If you > can do it let me know how. > I succeeded by selecting 'filesystem', then selecting 'home', followed by my home directory. tom -- Tom London From pnasrat at redhat.com Tue May 24 21:29:56 2005 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:29:56 -0400 Subject: From FC2 to 4t3 - slight hiccup In-Reply-To: <1116963645.2712.2.camel@localhost> References: <1116963645.2712.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1116970196.16830.3.camel@enki.eridu> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 20:40 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > The update went mostly okay except for a couple of problems. The first > is that I can't update anything. rpm is giving me db3 and db4 errors as > well as saying it cannot read /var/lib/rpm. I've tried yum -y update rpm > yum. yum downloads the files, but cannot install them. rpm -e rpmdb-fedora rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db* Paul From dwmw2 at infradead.org Tue May 24 22:11:51 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 23:11:51 +0100 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> Message-ID: <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 14:14 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote: > Just how is it keeping you from selecting your home directory? Just a > guess, you may be getting bit by the bug, er, I mean "feature", in the > latest gtk+ file selector that insists on selecting the first > subfolder in a folder. The new gtk+ file selector has to be the worst abomination in user interface design that I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. I just love the way that when I ask firefox to open something in /usr/bin/emacs, it takes five minutes to do so -- even _after_ I've actually typed "/usr/bin/emacs" . Sometimes I have to select 'emacs' again after it's finished scanning the whole of the contents of /usr/bin. The fact that I can attempt to attach files in Evolution, typing the same file name followed by four times in a row, and get four _different_ files, is particularly impressive. -- dwmw2 From veillard at redhat.com Tue May 24 22:25:07 2005 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:25:07 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:11:51PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > The new gtk+ file selector has to be the worst abomination in user > interface design that I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. > > I just love the way that when I ask firefox to open something > in /usr/bin/emacs, it takes five minutes to do so -- even _after_ I've > actually typed "/usr/bin/emacs" . Sometimes I have to > select 'emacs' again after it's finished scanning the whole of the > contents of /usr/bin. I have to agree this is really nasty, yes. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue May 24 22:27:16 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:27:16 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050524222716.GA23357@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:11:51PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > The new gtk+ file selector has to be the worst abomination in user > interface design that I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. You can tell it's user-friendly because it requires more time and effort to do the same thing. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 73 degrees Fahrenheit. From JBuck814366460 at aol.com Tue May 24 23:07:47 2005 From: JBuck814366460 at aol.com (Jared Buck) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:07:47 -0700 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 18:25 -0400, Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:11:51PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > The new gtk+ file selector has to be the worst abomination in user > > interface design that I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. > > > > I just love the way that when I ask firefox to open something > > in /usr/bin/emacs, it takes five minutes to do so -- even _after_ I've > > actually typed "/usr/bin/emacs" . Sometimes I have to > > select 'emacs' again after it's finished scanning the whole of the > > contents of /usr/bin. > > I have to agree this is really nasty, yes. > > Daniel > I've been noticing files opening slowly here too :( you're right, it's a piece of s***t and i wonder why they had to do that in the first place. Jared From rodd at clarkson.id.au Tue May 24 23:57:24 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:57:24 +1000 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1116979044.3230.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 23:11 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 14:14 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote: > > Just how is it keeping you from selecting your home directory? Just a > > guess, you may be getting bit by the bug, er, I mean "feature", in the > > latest gtk+ file selector that insists on selecting the first > > subfolder in a folder. Could this be solved by having the GTK+ file selector not select a file, but still focus in the right area of the dialog (ie place the keyboard focus in the file selection area, but not select a file)? Has anyone filed a bug against this? > The new gtk+ file selector has to be the worst abomination in user > interface design that I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. > > I just love the way that when I ask firefox to open something > in /usr/bin/emacs, it takes five minutes to do so -- even _after_ I've > actually typed "/usr/bin/emacs" . Sometimes I have to > select 'emacs' again after it's finished scanning the whole of the > contents of /usr/bin. Again, has anyone filed a bug against this. Surely this could be fixed by having the file selector quickly check whether 'emacs' is a file or a folder and if it's a file then open it without first doing a folder search. If no-one has filed bugs against these two problems then I'm happy to do so. Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From rodd at clarkson.id.au Wed May 25 00:18:12 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:18:12 +1000 Subject: GTK+ fileselector issues (was Re: Firefox - why is it better?) In-Reply-To: <1116979044.3230.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116979044.3230.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1116980293.3230.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> > > I just love the way that when I ask firefox to open something > > in /usr/bin/emacs, it takes five minutes to do so -- even _after_ I've > > actually typed "/usr/bin/emacs" . Sometimes I have to > > select 'emacs' again after it's finished scanning the whole of the > > contents of /usr/bin. > > Again, has anyone filed a bug against this. > > Surely this could be fixed by having the file selector quickly check > whether 'emacs' is a file or a folder and if it's a file then open it > without first doing a folder search. Actually, while having a look through gnome bugzilla and preparing to file a bug against this (it seems to be a unique example worth some thought) I noticed that what is happening here is actually correct. By this I mean that pressing: "/usr/bin/emacs" should open the "Open Location" dialog, locate the file '/usr/bin/emacs' and then close the dialog. After this it's appropriate that it then lists all the files in the folder (although the files shouldn't take so bloody long to load ;-]). It's quite reasonable for the file selector in the case above to assume that you may also wish to select other files from the directory. I'm assuming that the problem is that pressing "/usr/bin/emacs" isn't as responsive as it might be. The first should close the 'Open Location' dialog, the second should close the "Open File" (fileselectory) dialog. Is this really the problem? Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From dave at davenjudy.org Wed May 25 01:29:26 2005 From: dave at davenjudy.org (David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud)) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:29:26 -0600 Subject: Trying to fix 8139too driver problems Message-ID: <4293D4F6.9050607@davenjudy.org> From: Kevin Huffenberger >I'm trying to install linux on a hp zv6000 laptop. (Note to self: >never again try to install on brand new hardware.) I have tried >several distros, Fedora Core 4 test3 is working best, but the >networking is working only sporadically. Network seems to work okay >in FC1 and Ubuntu 5.04. I get "link up" but "transmit timed out" >errors, so I suspect some driver conflict or misconfiguration. I >rarely can get a dchp lease, but not usually. > >I have included below the results of lspci, ifconfig, dmesg, rtl8139-diag, etc. > >I have no idea how to debug this kind of problem. Any input that can >help me track this down would be greatly appreciated. > >---Kevin > > > Not seeing that on a zv6015us but: [dave at fubar ~]# uname -a Linux fubar.local.davenjudy.org 2.6.11-prep #1 Thu May 19 05:28:02 MDT 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux I'm running x86_64. On the other hand, I can't seem to get the slightest sign of life out of the wireless using ndiswrapper. Dave From dcbw at redhat.com Wed May 25 01:44:12 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Trying to fix 8139too driver problems In-Reply-To: <4293D4F6.9050607@davenjudy.org> References: <4293D4F6.9050607@davenjudy.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 May 2005, David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) wrote: > From: Kevin Huffenberger > > >I'm trying to install linux on a hp zv6000 laptop. (Note to self: > >never again try to install on brand new hardware.) I have tried > >several distros, Fedora Core 4 test3 is working best, but the > >networking is working only sporadically. Network seems to work okay > >in FC1 and Ubuntu 5.04. I get "link up" but "transmit timed out" > >errors, so I suspect some driver conflict or misconfiguration. I > >rarely can get a dchp lease, but not usually. > > > >I have included below the results of lspci, ifconfig, dmesg, rtl8139-diag, etc. > > > >I have no idea how to debug this kind of problem. Any input that can > >help me track this down would be greatly appreciated. > > > >---Kevin > > > > > > > Not seeing that on a zv6015us but: > > [dave at fubar ~]# uname -a > Linux fubar.local.davenjudy.org 2.6.11-prep #1 Thu May 19 05:28:02 MDT > 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > I'm running x86_64. On the other hand, I can't seem to get the > slightest sign of life out of the wireless using ndiswrapper. Um, if you're trying to use 32-bit drivers on your x86_64 box, I doubt it will work. But I'm not completely sure that's the case. That's the problem with non OSS drivers, you're not getting something that's guaranteed to work where the kernel works (which is something you do get with in-kernel GPL drivers). Dan From dave at davenjudy.org Wed May 25 01:52:06 2005 From: dave at davenjudy.org (David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud)) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:52:06 -0600 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues Message-ID: <4293DA46.9020405@davenjudy.org> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: >fre, 20.05.2005 kl. 05.57 skrev David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud): > > >>> Unfortunately, I'm headed out of town on Friday so this is a "seagull >>> comment" (fly in, crap all over the place, then leave) but I just >>> managed to get my Synaptics Touchpad working on an HP Pavilion zv6015 >>> with test 3 x86_64. The *really dumb* trick turned out to be to >>> recompile the kernel with psmouse as a module. Doing a simple "modprobe >>> -r psmouse" followed by a "modprobe psmouse" is sufficient to find the >>> Synaptics touchpad. It then appears to work in both text (gpm) and >>> X-windows. >> >> >Hmm... Could this touchpad trick have anything to do with this bug?: >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156418 > > > > > No. The system is an HP laptop (zv6015) that has no PS/2 port. I got the system up and running with a USB mouse and then discovered that I could get the Synaptics Touchpad working by compiling the kernel with psmouse as a module and automating the module load/unload in rc.local. On a clean boot with say the stock 1319 kernel, the touchpad is dead but the same kernel recompiled with psmouse as a module works fine. I haven't tried the possible combinations and permutations of having/no having a USB mouse plugged in at boot. Also, I see the same behavior with gpm before starting X. The mouse is defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf as: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection Dave From rodd at clarkson.id.au Wed May 25 02:19:11 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:19:11 +1000 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues In-Reply-To: <4293DA46.9020405@davenjudy.org> References: <4293DA46.9020405@davenjudy.org> Message-ID: <1116987551.3230.21.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 19:52 -0600, David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) wrote: > No. The system is an HP laptop (zv6015) that has no PS/2 port. > > I got the system up and running with a USB mouse and then discovered > that I could get the Synaptics Touchpad working by compiling the kernel > with psmouse as a module and automating the module load/unload in > rc.local. On a clean boot with say the stock 1319 kernel, the touchpad > is dead but the same kernel recompiled with psmouse as a module works > fine. > > I haven't tried the possible combinations and permutations of having/no > having a USB mouse plugged in at boot. Also, I see the same behavior > with gpm before starting X. The mouse is defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf as: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > EndSection Dave, Have you tried using the example given in /usr/share/doc/synaptics-0.14.0/ on how to configure a Synaptics mouse. If this works (without the recompile) then the next trick would be to get the installed to recognize that this is a Synaptics mouse and to use a similar config fil by default. Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From mattdm at mattdm.org Wed May 25 02:31:17 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:31:17 -0400 Subject: GTK+ fileselector issues (was Re: Firefox - why is it better?) In-Reply-To: <1116980293.3230.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116979044.3230.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116980293.3230.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <20050525023117.GA30116@jadzia.bu.edu> On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 10:18:12AM +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > Actually, while having a look through gnome bugzilla and preparing to > file a bug against this (it seems to be a unique example worth some > thought) I noticed that what is happening here is actually correct. > > By this I mean that pressing: > > "/usr/bin/emacs" > > should open the "Open Location" dialog, locate the file '/usr/bin/emacs' > and then close the dialog. This isn't "correct" in any sane sense of the word. Having to hit a secret key combo to enter a path name is ridiculous, and having that be a second dialog is a serious regression. [...] > I'm assuming that the problem is that pressing > > "/usr/bin/emacs" > > isn't as responsive as it might be. The problem is that one reason one might want to type rather than browse is that it's actually much, much faster -- but now, there's extraneous keystrokes required for no good reason. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 73 degrees Fahrenheit. From jerryw4386 at msn.com Wed May 25 02:57:30 2005 From: jerryw4386 at msn.com (JERRY WHITMIRE) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:57:30 -0700 Subject: yum Message-ID: I have 2 ? Where can i find all of the commands for yum. it is a good program i would like learn more about it . and what is the command [ to get all of the extras-development ] for Fedora4 test 3. Any help would gratefully used ! Thanks _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From mattdm at mattdm.org Wed May 25 03:16:22 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 23:16:22 -0400 Subject: yum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050525031622.GA31320@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 07:57:30PM -0700, JERRY WHITMIRE wrote: > Where can i find all of the commands for yum. it is a good program i would > like learn more about it . type 'man yum' > and what is the command [ to get all of the extras-development ] for > Fedora4 test 3. *All* of it? First, set up the Extras devel .repo file as /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras.repo as described at . Then, installing everything from Extras is a little bit tricky, because you'd want to pull in any dependencies from Core but, I assume, not actually install every Core package. So, maybe something like this: # yum --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo=bulinux-debug list | \ awk '{print $1}' | xargs yum install But actually, I'd suggest just doing the 'list' part first so you can see what all you'll be getting. And then maybe considering trying a package at a time or so. :) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 73 degrees Fahrenheit. From david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au Wed May 25 03:22:49 2005 From: david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au (david walcroft) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:22:49 +1000 Subject: yum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4293EF89.4090400@yahoo.com.au> JERRY WHITMIRE wrote: > I have 2 ? > Where can i find all of the commands for yum. it is a good program i > would like learn more about it . > and what is the command [ to get all of the extras-development ] for > Fedora4 test 3. > Any help would gratefully used ! > Thanks > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how > to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > man yum david From guillemw at hotmail.com Wed May 25 03:51:22 2005 From: guillemw at hotmail.com (Guille Williams) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:51:22 -0700 Subject: freeradius libraries Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know what happen to rlm_ldap.so in FC4 Test3? I am a newbie at freeradius and semi-newbie with linux all together. While trying to link freeradius and ldap I ran into a missing library file issue. I don't know if the library files were available in Tests 1-2 so I can't confirm if they were ever included. I do know that FC3 has the libraries(incompatible w/ fc4t3) I desire because I used FC3 as a file comparison base. The other issue I ran into was with certificate generation. Although I tracked down all the files needed to generate self signed certificates, I was a bit lost at first because of the new location of the files. Will the change in the cert file location remain this way at the release FC4 or will it revert to the FC3 location. Thanks, Guille From lynn at garlic.com Wed May 25 04:14:03 2005 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:14:03 -0600 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4293FB8B.10608@garlic.com> I'm still getting process hangs on 13xx smp kernels (thru 1341 on real two pentium processer machine) .... frequently X session initialization is hanging shortly have login (and only recovery is reset/reboot). reverting to smp kernel 1276 and everything is normal again. From mpeters at mac.com Wed May 25 05:19:00 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:19:00 -0700 Subject: Funky X11 on Summer 2000 iMac Message-ID: <1116998340.19228.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> [mpeters at gourmet ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 740/750 temperature : 44 C (uncalibrated) clock : 450MHz revision : 131.0 (pvr 0008 8300) bogomips : 897.02 machine : PowerMac2,2 motherboard : PowerMac2,2 MacRISC2 MacRISC Power Macintosh detected as : 66 (iMac FireWire) pmac flags : 00000014 L2 cache : 512K unified memory : 384MB pmac-generation : NewWorld Just installed todays rawhide. iMac kept rebooting during rawhide install - at random places but always while downloading, doing a minimal install got it to install all the way. Machine did not randomly reboot in OS 9.2 Then - yum groupinstall "X Window System" "GNOME Desktop Environment" "GNOME Software Development" went fine without a hitch. I'm currently booting into run level 3 - X11 starts rather slowly (via startx) and ssh'ing in and running top shows it using an insane amount of the CPU - between 94 and 99. It will eventually suddenly drop and I can move the mouse etc. but as soon as I click something, anything, it gets bogged down again and the usage of X in top skyrockets. my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log file can be viewed here: http://mpeters.us/imac_xorg/ Anyone know what's going on? I'm tempted to see if it works better via remote xdmcp - but not sure I want to enable gdm if it eats the CPU whenever it does anything X related. From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Wed May 25 05:25:44 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 01:25:44 -0400 Subject: Funky X11 on Summer 2000 iMac In-Reply-To: <1116998340.19228.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1116998340.19228.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1116998744.30966.6.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 22:19 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log file can be viewed here: > http://mpeters.us/imac_xorg/ Interesting. You managed to get the r128 driver, uh, "working" on your system. On my older G3 it just gives a bus error when starting X. Try the fbdev driver and see if it gives the same CPU usage results. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Turning off dri though fixed the speed/cpu problem - so whatever it is seems to be DRI. I'll try fbdev and see if that works better, with dri From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Wed May 25 05:42:39 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 01:42:39 -0400 Subject: Funky X11 on Summer 2000 iMac In-Reply-To: <1116999388.19228.13.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1116998340.19228.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1116998744.30966.6.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> <1116999388.19228.13.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1116999759.30966.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 22:36 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 01:25 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 22:19 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > > my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log file can be viewed here: > > > http://mpeters.us/imac_xorg/ > > > > Interesting. You managed to get the r128 driver, uh, "working" on your > > system. On my older G3 it just gives a bus error when starting X. Try > > the fbdev driver and see if it gives the same CPU usage results. > > Will do. Turning off dri though fixed the speed/cpu problem - so > whatever it is seems to be DRI. > I'll try fbdev and see if that works better, with dri And in the meantime I'll try turning off DRI. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Wed May 25 06:57:44 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 02:57:44 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <1116539376.16297.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> <1116539376.16297.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <429421E8.3040408@www.linux.org.uk> Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: >>Always avoid rebuilding packages as root. > > > Why is that? Because it is very insecure for one thing, and can silently destroy parts of your installed OS very easily. When building as root, a misplaced "rm -rf" or other fairly fatal snippet of code can really fry your entire installed OS. There are lots of rpm specs out there with rather serious (and likely unintentional) flaws in them which if executed as root have a lot of power to cause silent problems to your system. Another problem is spec files that do not specify a buildroot, will get installed into your real OS at %install time! This overwrites system installed binaries and is very very bad! The problems that can and do occur when building rpms as root are far more common that you might think, and while Red Hat supplied src.rpms and some of the better public repositories out there both have much higher quality packaging, the risks are still there for accidental mishaps, and a lot of mishaps go unnoticed for quite some time unless they are really destructive. Here is a copy of my personal rpm config files, completely documented to assist people in setting up rpm to build from their personal user account rather than risk system corruption from doing it as root: ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/hacks/rpmbuild-nonroot-1.0.tar.gz Be sure to read all documentation before using, and feel free to customize to taste and share with anyone else. Hope this helps. From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Wed May 25 06:59:28 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 02:59:28 -0400 Subject: nVidia drivers and rawhide In-Reply-To: <428F5D04.5060605@wowway.com> References: <1116537929.4695.3.camel@localhost> <604aa79105051914437ed16a18@mail.gmail.com> <1116547230.4747.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116551176.3367.7.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> <428F5D04.5060605@wowway.com> Message-ID: <42942250.6050805@www.linux.org.uk> Demond James wrote: > Trying ot get this to work for the x86_64 arch. The get the following > error message when trying to rebuild. > > error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: > /usr/lib/nvidia/libGLcore.so > > "/usr/lib/nvidia/libGLcore.so" is a symbolic link: libGLcore.so -> > libGLcore.so.1.0.7174 > Anyone know what's going wrong here. Is my system settings or the spec > file? > This sounds like an rpm packaging bug. I'm guessing, but it seems like the rpm package might create that symlink in rpm install scriptlets, rather than at %install time. The best way, is to do it in %install, simplify install scriptlets, and update the file list to own the symlink. From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Wed May 25 07:04:12 2005 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 03:04:12 -0400 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4"widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EC31@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EC31@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <4294236C.4070309@www.linux.org.uk> Fred New wrote: > On 19. mai 2005. a. 14:50, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >>In the case of the .INF files for monitors, instead, you can download >>the hwdata src.rpm, install it, and run inf2mondb.py on the file, and >>paste the results into bugzilla, as this is what we do with >>the things. >> > > I was curious about what inf2mondb.py would tell me about the > monitor.inf file that Gene mentioned yesterday and after a little > hacking of inf2mondb.py, I came up with a few lines (mostly > Compaq and Daewoo) missing from MonitorsDB. But since I don't > have any of these monitors, I am wondering if you want me to > put them in Bugzilla? > > The Dell Web site has a 2405FPW driver for a 1920x1200 display > from which inf2mondb.py gives the following lines: > > Dell Inc.; Dell 2405FPW (Analog); DELA00F; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0 > Dell Inc.; Dell 2405FPW (Digital); DELA010; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0 > > But I don't have this monitor, either. Sure, feel free to submit monitor database entries for any monitors you find that are not present already. Even if you don't own the display, someone out there probably does, so having them in the database would be very helpful indeed. ;) Anyone who has some spare time to volunteer is welcome to submit entries in bugzilla anytime, and we'll add them to future builds. It's probably ok to submit multiple entries or .INFs in a single report too, as they can be done in a single commit/update likely. Perhaps we could have a contest or something, and see who can submit the most monitor entries. ;o) Take care, TTYL From sundaram at redhat.com Wed May 25 07:08:35 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:38:35 +0530 Subject: INF information for Dell 1920x1200 15.4"widescreen display needed. In-Reply-To: <4294236C.4070309@www.linux.org.uk> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EC31@eemail1.microlink.lan> <4294236C.4070309@www.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: <42942473.90706@redhat.com> Hi > > Perhaps we could have a contest or something, and see who can > submit the most monitor entries. ;o) Bug triaging and having "bug days" is something that can be actively encouraged regards Rahul From russell at coker.com.au Wed May 25 08:08:59 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:08:59 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505251809.03308.russell@coker.com.au> On Monday 23 May 2005 20:58, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > If you want to use reiserfs, by all means be my guest. Some people only > > think they have performance gains with it, others really do. Reiserfs in > > fedora tends to be "lightly tested" at best though, so make sure you test > > it hard yourself before going into production. > > For us its not a question of 'only thinking'. We actually tested it and > got clear performance wins. > > We tested ext3, jfs, xfs, and reiserfs. > > For us reiserfs is the clear winner for ISP workloads. Does it work correctly as a root file system? The following extract from reiserfsck(8) indicates that it won't: --rebuild-tree This option rebuilds the entire filesystem tree using leaf nodes found on the device. Normally you only need this option if the reiserfsck --check reports "Running with --rebuild-tree is required". You are strongly encouraged to make a backup copy of the whole partition before attempting the --rebuild-tree option. Once reiserfsck --rebuild-tree is started it must finish its work (and you should not interrupt it), otherwise the filesystem will be left in the unmountable state to avoid subsequent data corruptions. > Our reiserfs results interested a business partner of ours who used > to swear by ext3. They also found out reiserfs was better all round for > them so they are also switching. Unless of course they want to do some common file system recovery options such as putting an image of a file system on another file system. The last reports were that if you put a Reiser3 image as a regular file in a Reiser3 file system then fsck would really mess things up. > The only real caveat for reiserfs at the moment is the lack of selinux > support. How is it lacking? In a quick test it seems to work. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From russell at coker.com.au Wed May 25 08:12:03 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:12:03 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505251812.06442.russell@coker.com.au> On Monday 23 May 2005 17:31, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >A pity selinux doesnt work on reiserfs yet, but selinux has serious > > >growing pains atm so we will wait for selinux to stabilize before we > > > worry about that. > > > > There is a patch for reiserfs to support xattr but upstream isnt > > interested. An explanation of the "growing pains" would also be useful > > "not production ready" eg not ready for deployment in ISP production > environment. When people stop filing critical selinux bugs in buzilla then > it will be production ready :-) SE Linux is enabled by default in RHEL4, it is a supported and recommended feature. I am not aware of any bugs reported against SE Linux that would make it unsuitable for use in an ISP. I know of some ISPs that have it on their servers. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From a.kurtz at hardsun.net Wed May 25 09:11:24 2005 From: a.kurtz at hardsun.net (Aaron Kurtz) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 02:11:24 -0700 Subject: Trying to fix 8139too driver problems In-Reply-To: References: <4293D4F6.9050607@davenjudy.org> Message-ID: <1117012284.25304.1.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 21:44 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > On Tue, 24 May 2005, David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) wrote: > > > > I'm running x86_64. On the other hand, I can't seem to get the > > slightest sign of life out of the wireless using ndiswrapper. > > Um, if you're trying to use 32-bit drivers on your x86_64 box, I doubt it will > work. But I'm not completely sure that's the case. That's the problem with non > OSS drivers, you're not getting something that's guaranteed to work where the > kernel works (which is something you do get with in-kernel GPL drivers). It's not going to work. You might be able to find WinXP 64 beta drivers for your card, and apparently this has worked for some ndiswrapper users, although my only exposure to this has been people asking for help on #fedora. -- Aaron Kurtz References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1116979044.3230.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1116980293.3230.14.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <20050525023117.GA30116@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <1117017678.5812.12.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 22:31 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > The problem is that one reason one might want to type rather than > browse is that it's actually much, much faster -- but now, there's > extraneous keystrokes required for no good reason. Most of the time I use the file selector, I'm trying to attach a file in Evolution. In almost every case, I'm selecting and pasting the file name as text from a gnome-terminal. Typing is overrated. > -- dwmw2 From goemon at anime.net Wed May 25 11:01:24 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 04:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <200505251809.03308.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 May 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > On Monday 23 May 2005 20:58, Dan Hollis wrote: > > For us reiserfs is the clear winner for ISP workloads. > Does it work correctly as a root file system? Yes. > The following extract from reiserfsck(8) indicates that it won't: > --rebuild-tree > This option rebuilds the entire filesystem tree using leaf nodes > found on the device. Normally you only need this option if the > reiserfsck --check reports "Running with --rebuild-tree is > required". You are strongly encouraged to make a backup copy of > the whole partition before attempting the --rebuild-tree option. > Once reiserfsck --rebuild-tree is started it must finish its > work (and you should not interrupt it), otherwise the filesystem > will be left in the unmountable state to avoid subsequent data > corruptions. Why does that indicate reiserfs won't function as a root file system? > > Our reiserfs results interested a business partner of ours who used > > to swear by ext3. They also found out reiserfs was better all round for > > them so they are also switching. > Unless of course they want to do some common file system recovery options such > as putting an image of a file system on another file system. The last > reports were that if you put a Reiser3 image as a regular file in a Reiser3 > file system then fsck would really mess things up. Er. This is true of _any_ journaled filesystem on top of an journaled filesystem (xfs, jfs, and iirc ext3) due to bad interactions with linux's caching. The general wisdom is to not do this, no matter what filesystem. Alternatively you could put a reiser3 image on ext2 if you really want to do that. It's not hard. > > The only real caveat for reiserfs at the moment is the lack of selinux > > support. > How is it lacking? In a quick test it seems to work. reiserfs (at least up to 2.6.11.10) doesnt have working support for selinux attributes. this is in fact a very well known problem[1]. though supposedly 2.6.12 is supposed to fix this[2]. -Dan [1]http://www.fedorafaq.org/#reiserjfs [2]http://www.livejournal.com/users/james_morris/3580.html From goemon at anime.net Wed May 25 11:02:08 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 04:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <200505251812.06442.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 May 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > I am not aware of any bugs reported against SE Linux that would make it > unsuitable for use in an ISP. I know of some ISPs that have it on their > servers. which isps? -Dan From buildsys at redhat.com Wed May 25 11:41:51 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:41:51 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050525 changes Message-ID: <200505251141.j4PBfpGQ023334@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: alsa-lib-1.0.9rc4-1 ------------------- * Tue May 24 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.0.9rc4-1 - update to 1.0.9rc4 (#157180, #158547) boost-1.32.0-6 -------------- * Tue May 24 2005 Benjamin Kosnik 1.32.0-6 - (#153093: boost warns that gcc 4.0.0 is an unknown compiler) - (#152205: development .so symlinks should be in -devel subpackage) - (#154783: linker .so symlinks missing from boost-devel package) * Fri Mar 18 2005 Benjamin Kosnik 1.32.0-5 - Revert boost-base.patch to old behavior. - Use SONAMEVERSION instead of dllversion. * Wed Mar 16 2005 Benjamin Kosnik 1.32.0-4 - (#142612: Compiling Boost 1.32.0 Failed in RHEL 3.0 on Itanium2) - (#150069: libboost_python.so is missing) - (#141617: bad patch boost-base.patch) - (#122817: libboost_*.so symlinks missing) - Re-add boost-thread.patch. - Change boost-base.patch to show thread tags. - Change boost-gcc-tools.patch to use SOTAG, compile with dllversion. - Add symbolic links to files. - Sanity check can compile with gcc-3.3.x, gcc-3.4.2, gcc-4.0.x., gcc-4.1.x. control-center-1:2.10.1-6 ------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Bill Nottingham - 1:2.10.1-6 - don't ship static versions of nautilus extensions dbus-0.33-3 ----------- * Mon May 23 2005 Bill Nottingham - 0.33-3 - remove static libraries from python bindings eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M7.5 ------------------------- * Sun May 22 2005 Andrew Overholt 3.1.0_fc-0.M7.4 - Remove compilation of jdt.ui jar.so on ppc. * Sat May 21 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M7.3 - Add ecj-options patch to bootstrap source. - Make embedded browser widget work (Robin Green). - Bump required version of java-gcj-compat to the latest (-40jpp_24rh). - Use -lgcjawt when building with gcj. * Wed May 18 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M7.2 - Disable org.eclipse.osgi_3.1.0.jar.so. - Add ecj-options patch, remove ecj-extdirs patch. eclipse-cdt-1:3.0.0_fc-0.M6.7 ----------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Andrew Overholt 3.0.0_fc-0.M6.7 - Bring in new I-build to enable jump to Eclipse 3.1M7 and fix some critical issues. fedora-logos-1.1.31-1 --------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Jeremy Katz - 1.1.31-1 - copyright date on anaconda splash (#153964) firstboot-1.3.41-4 ------------------ * Tue May 24 2005 Adrian Likins - 1.3.41 - fix #158095 - Subscription Alert (on first login) on non network installs * Thu May 19 2005 Adrian Likins - 1.3.40 - fix #154606 - First boot displays "please insert the red hat enterprise linux extras disk" ftp-0.17-26 ----------- * Tue May 24 2005 Miloslav Trmac - 0.17-26 - Fix passive mode with SELinux (#158234, patch by Nalin Dahyabhai) - Fix format string mismatch gamin-0.1.0-1 ------------- * Thu May 12 2005 Daniel Veillard 0.1.0-1 - Close inherited file descriptors on exec of gam_server - Cancelling a monitor send back a FAMAcknowledge - Fixed for big files > 2GB - Bug when monitoring a non existing directory - Make client side thread safe - Unreadable directory fixes - Better flow control handling - Updated to latest inotify version: 0.23-6 gdm-1:2.6.0.8-16 ---------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Ray Strode 1:2.6.0.8-16 - Make sure username/password incorrect message gets displayed (bug 158127). - reread system locale before starting gdm in early login mode (bug 158376). kernel-2.6.11-1.1353_FC4 ------------------------ * Tue May 24 2005 Dave Jones - Update various cpufreq drivers. * Mon May 23 2005 Dave Jones - Add extra id to SATA Sil driver. (#155748) - Fix oops on rmmod of lanai & ms558 drivers when no hardware present. * Mon May 23 2005 Dave Jones - Fix double unlock of spinlock on tulip. (#158522) libgnomeprint22-2.10.3-1 ------------------------ * Tue May 24 2005 David Zeuthen - 2.10.3-1 - Update to upstream release 2.10.3 (#158397). Temporarily disable the fix for #154939 since that may be fixed upstream. libxslt-1.1.14-2 ---------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Bill Nottingham - remove static library from python bindings log4j-0:1.2.8-7jpp_4fc ---------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Gary Benson 0:1.2.8-7jpp_4fc - Work around chainsaw failure (#157585). lvm2-cluster-2.01.09-3.0 ------------------------ * Mon May 23 2005 Alasdair Kergon - 2.01.09-3.0 - Changed arch again, now: 'ExclusiveArch: i386 ppc ppc64 x86_64' - Fix clvmd init script. - Don't add it to any runlevels by default. (#157468) openoffice.org-1:1.9.104-2 -------------------------- * Tue May 24 2005 Dan Williams - 1:1.9.104-2 - Add -IN glyph fallbacks for Hindi, Gujarati, Bengali, Punjabi, and Tamil (penoffice.org-1.9.104.oooXXXXX.indic-font-fallbacks.patch) - Add Croatian 'hr' langpack - Package libportaudio and libsndfile libraries in -core package - drop workspace-db4.patch and workspace-db4-2.patch since it appears we can use db4 with gcc again - add openoffice.org-1.9.104-gcjawt.patch to deal with gcj AWT library change to libgcjawt.so - add openoffice.org-1.9.104-berkeleydb-jni-casting-misuse.patch to fix grievous misuse of C casting in berkeleydb's JNI glue rhpl-0.167-1 ------------ * Tue May 24 2005 Paul Nasrat - 0.167-1 - Fix for ALPS specific settings * Thu May 19 2005 Jeremy Katz - 0.166-1 - Retranslate keyboard names each time so that it works with anaconda's lang changing (#157733) rpm-4.4.1-21 ------------ * Tue May 24 2005 Paul Nasrat - 4.4.1-21 - Update translations (#154623) setools-2.1.0-5 --------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Bill Nottingham 2.1.0-5 - put libraries in the right place (also puts debuginfo in the right package) - add %defattr for -devel too * Thu May 12 2005 Dan Walsh 2.1.0-4 - Move sepcut to gui apps. * Fri May 06 2005 Dan Walsh 2.1.0-3 - Fix Missing return code. shadow-utils-2:4.0.7-9 ---------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Peter Vrabec 2:4.0.7-9 - remove vigr binary * Mon May 23 2005 Peter Vrabec 2:4.0.7-8 - fix nscd socket path system-config-display-1.0.29-1 ------------------------------ * Mon May 23 2005 Jeremy Katz - 1.0.29-1 - put scriptlets from distcvs in this specfile * Mon May 23 2005 Jeremy Katz - 1.0.28-1 - fix typo in cleanup leading to traceback (#157423) * Thu Apr 28 2005 Soren Sandmann 1.0.26-1 - Clean up deprecation warnings (#153937) system-config-soundcard-1.2.11-5 -------------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Jeremy Katz - 1.2.11-5 - fix probing of mac audio (#157932) up2date-4.4.23-4 ---------------- * Tue May 24 2005 Bill Nottingham 4.4.23-4 - fix traceback in repomd support vte-0.11.13-2.fc4 ----------------- * Mon May 23 2005 BillNottingham 0.11.13-2.fc4 - fix removal of static libs from python bindings yum-2.3.2-6 ----------- * Tue May 24 2005 Paul Nasrat - 2.3.2-6 - Erase/remove reversing for yum cli (#158577) * Tue May 24 2005 Jeremy Katz - 2.3.2-5 - allow multiple packages _providing_ kernel-devel (or any installonlypkgs) to be installed (#155988) * Mon May 23 2005 Jeremy Katz - 2.3.2-4 - fix traceback on out of disk space error From russell at coker.com.au Wed May 25 11:44:18 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:44:18 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505252144.21493.russell@coker.com.au> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 21:02, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > > I am not aware of any bugs reported against SE Linux that would make it > > unsuitable for use in an ISP. I know of some ISPs that have it on their > > servers. > > which isps? I don't know of any that have given permission for such information to be published. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From byte at aeon.com.my Wed May 25 11:47:00 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:47:00 +1000 Subject: Funky X11 on Summer 2000 iMac In-Reply-To: <1116998340.19228.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1116998340.19228.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1117021620.2773.135.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 22:19 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > iMac kept rebooting during rawhide install - at random places but always > while downloading, doing a minimal install got it to install all the > way. Bad mirror? How did you perform the install, did you have a local mirror? > I'm currently booting into run level 3 - X11 starts rather slowly (via > startx) and ssh'ing in and running top shows it using an insane amount > of the CPU - between 94 and 99. What's hogging the CPU ? > It will eventually suddenly drop and I can move the mouse etc. but as > soon as I click something, anything, it gets bogged down again and the > usage of X in top skyrockets. Hmm, odd. I faced this issue a while back, and never had time to debug it, and it disappeared with the next rawhide release. Gah > my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log file can be viewed here: > http://mpeters.us/imac_xorg/ Cursory inspection, looking sane -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From russell at coker.com.au Wed May 25 12:00:37 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:00:37 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505252200.42522.russell@coker.com.au> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 21:01, Dan Hollis wrote: > > The following extract from reiserfsck(8) indicates that it won't: > > --rebuild-tree > > This option rebuilds the entire filesystem tree using leaf > > nodes found on the device. Normally you only need this option if the > > reiserfsck --check reports "Running with --rebuild-tree is > > required". You are strongly encouraged to make a backup copy of the > > whole partition before attempting the --rebuild-tree option. Once > > reiserfsck --rebuild-tree is started it must finish its work (and you > > should not interrupt it), otherwise the filesystem will be left in the > > unmountable state to avoid subsequent data corruptions. > > Why does that indicate reiserfs won't function as a root file system? When (not if) the root file system needs a thorough fsck any interruption (such as power failure) will result in a non-bootable system. But it's still a significant improvement, it used to be that --rebuild-tree was not permitted on a ro mounted file system so booting from an install CD was necessary to check the root fs. > > > Our reiserfs results interested a business partner of ours who used > > > to swear by ext3. They also found out reiserfs was better all round for > > > them so they are also switching. > > > > Unless of course they want to do some common file system recovery options > > such as putting an image of a file system on another file system. The > > last reports were that if you put a Reiser3 image as a regular file in a > > Reiser3 file system then fsck would really mess things up. > > Er. This is true of _any_ journaled filesystem on top of an journaled > filesystem (xfs, jfs, and iirc ext3) due to bad interactions with linux's > caching. The general wisdom is to not do this, no matter what filesystem. No it's not. Put an ext3 image inside an ext3 file system and try to reproduce the problem. You will discover that ext3 is not vulnerable to this. Also try it on HPFS (non-journalled file system used by OS/2) and you will discover similar problems. It's nothing to do with journalling. It's a problem of recognising metadata, file systems which have fixed locations for metadata have a much easier time of this. > Alternatively you could put a reiser3 image on ext2 if you really want to > do that. It's not hard. Sure it's not hard. That's nice to know AFTER you've done it and had your data corrupted (as has happened to several people). This is also a security issue. For example you might be able to put a file in your home directory which contains a ReiserFS image of a file system containing a SUID file and then have a fsck make it a regular file owned by root with the SUID bit set which would allow taking over the machine. In a quick test I managed to create a SUID root file in such a manner, but it seemed corrupted and could not be executed. Hopefully Reiser4 will solve this issue. > > > The only real caveat for reiserfs at the moment is the lack of selinux > > > support. > > > > How is it lacking? In a quick test it seems to work. > > reiserfs (at least up to 2.6.11.10) doesnt have working support for > selinux attributes. The latest rawhide kernel seems to have it. Did you do any tests? Finally, are there still known situations where a corrupt ReiserFS file system could corrupt kernel memory? This was the bug that got me to convert the root file systems of machines I own to use Ext2/3. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From russell at coker.com.au Wed May 25 12:07:21 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:07:21 +1000 Subject: A question about top posting. In-Reply-To: <20050522141434.GA16087@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050517204039.GA3091@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <9792751e05052120025640366b@mail.gmail.com> <20050522141434.GA16087@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <200505252207.25196.russell@coker.com.au> On Monday 23 May 2005 00:14, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > ======================================================================= > DISCLAIMER: > Use of this advanced computing technology does not imply an endorsement > of Western industrial civilization. > ------------------------------------------- > Aaron Konstam > Computer Science > Trinity University > One Trinity Place. > San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 > > telephone: (210)-999-7484 > email:akonstam at trinity.edu http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html While we are on the topic of netiquette the signature should be no more than four lines, yours is 13. See the above URL for more information. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From surak at casa.surak.eti.br Wed May 25 12:39:49 2005 From: surak at casa.surak.eti.br (Alexandre Strube) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:39:49 -0300 Subject: Two SELINUX Problems with YP In-Reply-To: <1116861225.5448.3.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <1116861225.5448.3.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1117024789.19271.10.camel@localhost.surak.eti.br> Em Seg, 2005-05-23 ?s 11:13 -0400, Thomas J. Baker escreveu: > Bugzilla keeps giving me blank pages when I try to submit a bug so I I thought I was the only one.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From goemon at anime.net Wed May 25 12:47:19 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 05:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <200505252200.42522.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 May 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 21:01, Dan Hollis wrote: > > Why does that indicate reiserfs won't function as a root file system? > When (not if) the root file system needs a thorough fsck any interruption > (such as power failure) will result in a non-bootable system. > But it's still a significant improvement, it used to be that --rebuild-tree > was not permitted on a ro mounted file system so booting from an install CD > was necessary to check the root fs. Note that XFS won't let you fsck a readonly-mounted fs _at all_. Even a non destructive read-only check. I've argued with the XFS developers about this and they stated they don't see this as a problem and they're not going to fix it. I have no idea why they think this is a good idea. > > Alternatively you could put a reiser3 image on ext2 if you really want to > > do that. It's not hard. > Sure it's not hard. That's nice to know AFTER you've done it and had your > data corrupted (as has happened to several people). Who? > > > > The only real caveat for reiserfs at the moment is the lack of selinux > > > > support. > > > How is it lacking? In a quick test it seems to work. > > reiserfs (at least up to 2.6.11.10) doesnt have working support for > > selinux attributes. > The latest rawhide kernel seems to have it. Did you do any tests? You mean FC4T3 installer has it? Or you mean the latest kernel downloadable via yum updater? > Finally, are there still known situations where a corrupt ReiserFS file system > could corrupt kernel memory? This was the bug that got me to convert the > root file systems of machines I own to use Ext2/3. None that I know of. If there were you would expect them to be reported in linux-kernel or bugzilla, and I don't see anything. I do however see some serious recent issues with ext3: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=149478 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=139374 We can go around in circles endlessly posting tit-for-tat comparisons of ext3 and reiserfs. Neither FS is flawless and both have their issues. However reiserfs has been perfect for our needs in every way and in production systems has shown zero failures whereas we had many total losses with ext3. -Dan From Christopher.Carney at noaa.gov Wed May 25 13:43:05 2005 From: Christopher.Carney at noaa.gov (Christopher Carney) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:43:05 -0400 Subject: Yum error Message-ID: <429480E9.6030401@noaa.gov> While running Yum I get this error: Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core [root at localhost ~]# Is this a known issue and actively being worked? Chris -- The only way to find the limits of the possible is by going beyond them to the impossible. -Arthur C. Clarke From selinux at gmail.com Wed May 25 13:49:10 2005 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 06:49:10 -0700 Subject: Yum error In-Reply-To: <429480E9.6030401@noaa.gov> References: <429480E9.6030401@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530505250649634aa7b0@mail.gmail.com> On 5/25/05, Christopher Carney wrote: > While running Yum I get this error: Error: Missing Dependency: > libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core > [root at localhost ~]# > Is this a known issue and actively being worked? > Chris > > -- > The only way to find the limits of the possible is by going beyond them to the impossible. > > -Arthur C. Clarke > Fixed in today's Rawhide. tom -- Tom London From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Wed May 25 13:47:32 2005 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:47:32 -0400 Subject: Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1341_FC4 is needed by package GFS-kernel... Message-ID: --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1341_FC4 is needed by package cman-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1341_FC4 is needed by package gnbd-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1341_FC4 is needed by package dlm-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1341_FC4 is needed by package GFS-kernel From pri.rhl4 at iadonisi.to Wed May 25 13:54:11 2005 From: pri.rhl4 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:54:11 -0400 Subject: ext3 compiled-in vs module in FC4 In-Reply-To: References: <20050523204507.GB21952@redhat.com> <4292645D.2020403@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1117029251.5182.2.camel@dhcp55-241.rdu.redhat.com> Just curious...did you also include jbd.ko in your initrd? Plus, if you're building the initrd by hand, you need to load the modules (in the proper order, as I think only insmod -- not modprobe -- is available) in your linuxrc. Or maybe it's the 'init' script these days. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 25 13:56:38 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:56:38 -0500 Subject: Yum error In-Reply-To: <429480E9.6030401@noaa.gov> References: <429480E9.6030401@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <42948416.3010807@earthlink.net> Christopher Carney wrote: > While running Yum I get this error: Error: Missing Dependency: > libjawt.so.6 is needed by package openoffice.org-core > [root at localhost ~]# > Is this a known issue and actively being worked? > Chris > That problem seems to be fixed in today's rawhide. An updated OpenOffice.org is included to solve this dependency. My system is running yum update without problems as I type this. Ahh, just completed! Gerry From alan at redhat.com Wed May 25 14:15:08 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:15:08 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 04:07:47PM -0700, Jared Buck wrote: > I've been noticing files opening slowly here too :( you're right, it's > a piece of s***t and i wonder why they had to do that in the first > place. Perhaps because they genuinely were trying to create a better desktop and got bits of it wrong on this attempt. People need to file bugs for the cases it does badly including details (eg an strace if it is being very slow may show why), and if it doesn't do the expected saying what you expected to happen. Alan From mattdm at mattdm.org Wed May 25 14:38:18 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:38:18 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050525143818.GA15874@jadzia.bu.edu> On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 10:15:08AM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > Perhaps because they genuinely were trying to create a better desktop and > got bits of it wrong on this attempt. People need to file bugs for the > cases it does badly including details (eg an strace if it is being very > slow may show why), and if it doesn't do the expected saying what you > expected to happen. Thanks Alan. It's good to step back and look at it from that point of view. Sometimes it's frustrating -- it feels like UI designers show up and say "you geeks have no idea how to make a user interface", and then redesign in a way which looks pretty but is far less functional. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 73 degrees Fahrenheit. From ja at jaa.org.uk Wed May 25 14:40:13 2005 From: ja at jaa.org.uk (John Austin) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:40:13 +0100 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117032013.6862.78.camel@maui.jaa.org.uk> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:15 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 04:07:47PM -0700, Jared Buck wrote: > > I've been noticing files opening slowly here too :( you're right, it's > > a piece of s***t and i wonder why they had to do that in the first > > place. > > Perhaps because they genuinely were trying to create a better desktop and got > bits of it wrong on this attempt. People need to file bugs for the cases it > does badly including details (eg an strace if it is being very slow may show > why), and if it doesn't do the expected saying what you expected to happen. > > Alan > firefox-1.0.4.installer.tar.gz works infinitely faster listing /usr/bin in that GUI !! New interface too John From pinball at litz.org Wed May 25 14:44:01 2005 From: pinball at litz.org (Jonathan Deitch) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:44:01 -0400 Subject: 1341 smp (and all other recent smp) freezeup @ login prompt Message-ID: <42948F31.3010404@litz.org> On a FC4T3 system, with latest yum updates ... Dual xeon system running on an Intel server motherboard, getting a freeze after the boot process completes ... login appears, cursor blinks, but keyboard/mouse are unresponsive, as well as network (system appears hung) - can only reset to fix. Booting the UP kernel system works flawlessly ... Checking in logs, there's *no* logging at all for the smp boot - it's as if it never happened. any ideas? I'm flat-out stumped ... - Jonathan From pinball at litz.org Wed May 25 14:45:04 2005 From: pinball at litz.org (Jonathan Deitch) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:45:04 -0400 Subject: 1341 smp (and all other recent smp) freezeup @ login prompt In-Reply-To: <42948F31.3010404@litz.org> References: <42948F31.3010404@litz.org> Message-ID: <42948F70.60809@litz.org> Forgot to mention : this happens when booting to any runlevel, including single ... Jonathan Deitch wrote: > On a FC4T3 system, with latest yum updates ... > > Dual xeon system running on an Intel server motherboard, getting a > freeze after the boot process completes ... login appears, cursor > blinks, but keyboard/mouse are unresponsive, as well as network > (system appears hung) - can only reset to fix. > > Booting the UP kernel system works flawlessly ... > > Checking in logs, there's *no* logging at all for the smp boot - it's > as if it never happened. > > any ideas? I'm flat-out stumped ... > > - Jonathan > From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Wed May 25 15:23:09 2005 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:23:09 +0100 Subject: Out of disk space Message-ID: <4294985D.4010509@rl.ac.uk> Hello there, In the latest update for FC4-T3 I filled my disk up with 160Mb of yum downloads. The install went fine, but using Firefox afterwards looked strange so I tried rebooting. Bad mistake. I could not log in. gdm error: May 25 16:07:31 wjmurray gdm[4622]: gdm_auth_user_add: Could not write cookie May 25 16:07:31 wjmurray gdm[4622]: gdm_auth_user_add: Could not write cookie May 25 16:07:33 wjmurray gdm(pam_unix)[4622]: session closed for user murray This happened even in 'failsafe terminal mode'. Now I could ssh in from another machine and free some space that way, but why could 'failsafe' terminal not be opened? Or maybe even better gdm could do some triage on /tmp, /var/cache etc? I know this is too late for FC4, but maybe 5? Bill From russell at coker.com.au Wed May 25 15:24:28 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 01:24:28 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505260124.33617.russell@coker.com.au> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 22:47, Dan Hollis wrote: > > When (not if) the root file system needs a thorough fsck any interruption > > (such as power failure) will result in a non-bootable system. > > But it's still a significant improvement, it used to be that > > --rebuild-tree was not permitted on a ro mounted file system so booting > > from an install CD was necessary to check the root fs. > > Note that XFS won't let you fsck a readonly-mounted fs _at all_. Even a > non destructive read-only check. I've argued with the XFS developers > about this and they stated they don't see this as a problem and they're > not going to fix it. I have no idea why they think this is a good idea. Interesting. I've got a couple of machines that can only boot with an XFS root. Fortunately I can easily remove the disks from them. > > > Alternatively you could put a reiser3 image on ext2 if you really want > > > to do that. It's not hard. > > > > Sure it's not hard. That's nice to know AFTER you've done it and had > > your data corrupted (as has happened to several people). > > Who? Me and Roger Wolff. Just repeat the test I performed a few hours ago. Why are you so argumentative about things which you can easily test? You don't have to believe me, do your own tests and you'll get the same results. > > > reiserfs (at least up to 2.6.11.10) doesnt have working support for > > > selinux attributes. > > > > The latest rawhide kernel seems to have it. Did you do any tests? > > You mean FC4T3 installer has it? Or you mean the latest kernel > downloadable via yum updater? 2.6.11-1.1319_FC4 has it. As for FC4T3, that depends on the kernel, the installer, etc. Why not test it? Ext3 is the default file system for Fedora for reasons which have already been explained. As the default choice Ext3 gets the most testing from Red Hat employees, also Ext3 is a priority for testing as it's in RHEL. The purpose of this list is for people from the community to assist us with testing, and this particularly applies to non-default options. It would be good if you could help us in this regard. I'm sure that FC4 release will have a kernel at least as recent as 2.6.11-1.1319_FC4. So I don't expect any problems using ReiserFS and SE Linux on FC4 release. > > Finally, are there still known situations where a corrupt ReiserFS file > > system could corrupt kernel memory? This was the bug that got me to > > convert the root file systems of machines I own to use Ext2/3. > > None that I know of. If there were you would expect them to be reported in > linux-kernel or bugzilla, and I don't see anything. They were reported years ago on the ReiserFS list. Hans didn't seem inclined to fix them as fixing such bugs incurred a performance penalty. If that policy has changed in the ReiserFS development team then I'll write some scripts to randomly corrupt ReiserFS file systems and try to reproduce kernel bugs. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Wed May 25 15:27:50 2005 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:27:50 +0100 Subject: Locked screen Message-ID: <42949976.9010502@rl.ac.uk> Hi all, Just a thought for improving Fedora. We now have a 'new login' menu item in gnome at least, which creates a new session nested inside the old. Isn't this MOST useful when someone has left the screen locked? I come along, find one of my kids has locked the screen, and I can either 'ctrl-atl-tab' or go and look for him. Bein able to just nest a new session would be great. Where does this have to happen? xscreensaver? Bill From oded.maimon at gmail.com Wed May 25 15:30:26 2005 From: oded.maimon at gmail.com (Maimon Oded) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:30:26 +0300 Subject: Installing Xen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I've installed FC4-T3 and then install the xen packages, following this manual: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstart i've got to the step that i need to create change the domain0 RAM used, by runing: xm balloon 0 384 it didnt work becuase the xend is not runing, i've tried to start it by issuing: /etc/init.d/xend start after a few seconds it finished and i checked to see if the xend is up, ps -ef | grep xen returned only [xenblkd], the logs xend & xend-debug return no new lines, can some one please tell me what's wrong or how i can debug this? (I'm using the latest Xen packages) thanks, Oded. From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Wed May 25 15:37:48 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:37:48 -0700 Subject: Disable firstboot or text-mode firstboot(FC4/rawhide) Message-ID: <1117035468.5908.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> I am having some issues with firstboot that appears to be causing the X server to display garbage. I can't actually get into the machine to answer all of the questions at this point(Nvidia 6200 PCI-E). Is there a way to put firstboot into a text mode or to disable firstboot altogether? Sean From sds at tycho.nsa.gov Wed May 25 15:28:52 2005 From: sds at tycho.nsa.gov (Stephen Smalley) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:28:52 -0400 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117034932.32155.130.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 05:47 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > You mean FC4T3 installer has it? Or you mean the latest kernel > downloadable via yum updater? FC4T3 kernel should have included the reiserfs xattr fixes to make it work with SELinux, as the fixes were included in upstream kernels >= 2.6.12-rc1, and 2.6.12-rc1 was included in FC4 kernels a long time ago (1.1187, 2005/03/18). For that matter, I would have expected it in FC4T2 as well. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From katzj at redhat.com Wed May 25 15:41:09 2005 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:41:09 -0400 Subject: 1341 smp (and all other recent smp) freezeup @ login prompt In-Reply-To: <42948F31.3010404@litz.org> References: <42948F31.3010404@litz.org> Message-ID: <1117035669.9191.5.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:44 -0400, Jonathan Deitch wrote: > any ideas? I'm flat-out stumped ... Does booting with vdso=0 help? If so, #158413 Jeremy From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Wed May 25 16:35:26 2005 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:35:26 -0400 Subject: Locked screen Message-ID: William John Murray on 05/25/05 11:27 AM wrote: > Just a thought for improving Fedora. We now have a 'new login' > menu item in gnome at least, which creates a new session nested inside > the old. Isn't this MOST useful when someone has left the screen locked? I completely dissagree with this feature request! If I have locked my screen, I did it for a reason. And that reason was, I didn't want _anyone_ else to use my system. There should be no way for another user to overide it. Only the system administrator should be allowed to do something, and that probably would entail killing my processes. > I come along, find one of my kids has locked the screen, and I can > either 'ctrl-atl-tab' or go and look for him. Bein able to just nest > a new session would be great. Your problem appears to be that you want to disable the screen locking mechanism so your kids can't lock _you_ out. If you need another 'session' you could always flip to another screen, login, do your stuff (even startx), log out, and leave the kids' screen still locked and untouched. From ttaranov at gmail.com Wed May 25 16:07:17 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:07:17 -0400 Subject: Locked screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: yeah, this feature request sounds a little dodgy to me too... you should just ask your kids to disable screen locking or just flip to other screen and do your stuff there. On 5/25/05, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > > William John Murray on 05/25/05 11:27 AM wrote: > > > Just a thought for improving Fedora. We now have a 'new login' > > menu item in gnome at least, which creates a new session nested inside > > the old. Isn't this MOST useful when someone has left the screen locked? > > > I completely dissagree with this feature request! > > If I have locked my screen, I did it for a reason. > And that reason was, I didn't want _anyone_ else to use my system. > There should be no way for another user to overide it. > Only the system administrator should be allowed to do something, > and that probably would entail killing my processes. > > > I come along, find one of my kids has locked the screen, and I can > > either 'ctrl-atl-tab' or go and look for him. Bein able to just nest > > a new session would be great. > > Your problem appears to be that you want to disable the > screen locking mechanism so your kids can't lock _you_ out. > > If you need another 'session' you could always flip to another screen, > login, do your stuff (even startx), log out, and leave the kids' > screen still locked and untouched. > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed May 25 16:08:17 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:08:17 +0200 Subject: Locked screen In-Reply-To: <42949976.9010502@rl.ac.uk> References: <42949976.9010502@rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4294A2F1.4020200@gmx.de> William John Murray wrote: > Hi all, > Just a thought for improving Fedora. We now have a 'new login' > menu item in gnome at least, which creates a new session nested inside > the old. Isn't this MOST useful when someone has left the screen locked? > I come along, find one of my kids has locked the screen, and I can > either 'ctrl-atl-tab' or go and look for him. Bein able to just nest > a new session would be great. > Where does this have to happen? xscreensaver? [alt]+[ctrl]+[Fx] logon as user on a tty $ startx -- :1 and switch to eg. vt9 here you have your desktop without looking for your kid. -- shrek-m From david at fubar.dk Wed May 25 16:14:39 2005 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:14:39 -0400 Subject: Locked screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117037679.4014.6.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 12:35 -0400, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > William John Murray on 05/25/05 11:27 AM wrote: > > > Just a thought for improving Fedora. We now have a 'new login' > > menu item in gnome at least, which creates a new session nested inside > > the old. Isn't this MOST useful when someone has left the screen locked? > > > I completely dissagree with this feature request! > > If I have locked my screen, I did it for a reason. > And that reason was, I didn't want _anyone_ else to use my system. > There should be no way for another user to overide it. > Only the system administrator should be allowed to do something, > and that probably would entail killing my processes. Uhm, what prevents an user with physical access from just removing power and thereby killing your processes. > > I come along, find one of my kids has locked the screen, and I can > > either 'ctrl-atl-tab' or go and look for him. Bein able to just nest > > a new session would be great. > > Your problem appears to be that you want to disable the > screen locking mechanism so your kids can't lock _you_ out. > > If you need another 'session' you could always flip to another screen, > login, do your stuff (even startx), log out, and leave the kids' > screen still locked and untouched. And exactly how discoverable is this? To me the feature request makes a lot of sense. However, fast user-switching, as this is a variant of, does have some issues we need to work out (such as permissions on removable storage and other devices - there's a few others too). David From david at fubar.dk Wed May 25 16:32:36 2005 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:32:36 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050525143818.GA15874@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050525143818.GA15874@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <1117038756.4014.22.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:38 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 10:15:08AM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > Perhaps because they genuinely were trying to create a better desktop and > > got bits of it wrong on this attempt. People need to file bugs for the > > cases it does badly including details (eg an strace if it is being very > > slow may show why), and if it doesn't do the expected saying what you > > expected to happen. > > Thanks Alan. It's good to step back and look at it from that point of view. > > Sometimes it's frustrating -- it feels like UI designers show up and say > "you geeks have no idea how to make a user interface", and then redesign > in a way which looks pretty but is far less functional. Uhm, I think it's pretty interesting that the original complaint revolved around something an ordinary user would never do (or at least never should): selecting the file '/usr/bin/emacs' in the file chooser. When you think of it, it's simply a bug in the first place that users (even hackers) need to do something like that. File bugs. FWIW, I'm very happy about the new GTK+ file chooser. I like the bookmarks (I have a 'Patches', 'Downloads', 'Hacking' bookmarks that I use all the time) and the fact that it shows my removable drives (it's even dynamically updated). Maybe my workflow is just different (and probably closer to the bulk of our intended user base); as a data point you may note that I'm also using a graphical email client. Evolution :-) However, that's not to say the issues reported shouldn't be fixed though. File bugs. Cheers, David From robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov Wed May 25 16:33:10 2005 From: robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:33:10 -0400 Subject: Locked screen In-Reply-To: <42949976.9010502@rl.ac.uk> References: <42949976.9010502@rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1117038790.7834.36.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 16:27 +0100, William John Murray wrote: > Hi all, > Just a thought for improving Fedora. We now have a 'new login' > menu item in gnome at least, which creates a new session nested inside > the old. Isn't this MOST useful when someone has left the screen locked? > I come along, find one of my kids has locked the screen, and I can > either 'ctrl-atl-tab' or go and look for him. Bein able to just nest > a new session would be great. > Where does this have to happen? xscreensaver? > Bill > You are root on the computer, right. Unlock the screen with root's password. You could also run two X sessions at bootup and Alt-Ctl-F8 into the second one. I think hitting return after Atl-Ctl-Fx might be required to fool the xscreensaver's password dialog. Bob... From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Wed May 25 16:37:17 2005 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:37:17 +0100 Subject: SMB overactive? In-Reply-To: <20050525160032.EFB8173C8E@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050525160032.EFB8173C8E@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4294A9BD.6070700@rl.ac.uk> Help! I just realised that SMB has become overactive in my FC4T3 box. From ethereal, I see it seems to pass messages like this to every other machine on our intranet: Trans2 Request, QUERY_FS_INFO, Query FS Size Info Trans2 Response, QUERY_FS_INFO etc. It just keeps on doing it, round and round, ~10-20 machines a second. I don't know when this started, but it keeps the little blue 'Network' light on my eth0 at about 20% permanently and cannot be good for the network. Which process will be responsible? I do have 4 remote cifs mounts - should I remove them? Thank you, Bill From ba at linuxin.dk Wed May 25 16:54:51 2005 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:54:51 +0200 Subject: NeroLinux isn't working Message-ID: <1117040091.3400.3.camel@Mars> Hi Does anyone knows how to get it working? It "segfaults". Some older compat* libs maby? -- Regards Bjorn Andersen From oded.maimon at gmail.com Wed May 25 17:48:27 2005 From: oded.maimon at gmail.com (Maimon Oded) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:48:27 +0300 Subject: Installing Xen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I've installed FC4-T3 and then install the xen packages, following this manual: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstart I've got to the step that i need to create change the domain0 RAM used, by running: xm balloon 0 384 it didn't work because the xend is not running, I've tried to start it by issuing: /etc/init.d/xend start after a few seconds it finished and i checked to see if the xend is up, ps -ef | grep xen returned only [xenblkd], the logs xend & xend-debug return no new lines, can some one please tell me what's wrong or how i can debug this? (I'm using the latest Xen packages) thanks, Oded. From talbotscott at cox.net Wed May 25 18:08:23 2005 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:08:23 -0700 Subject: Azureus and the java-compat library Message-ID: <4294BF17.60200@cox.net> Good morning list: I have just completed the download and install of the rawhide updates, which included the java-compat library required by Open Office. Until now I have been using the j2re 1.5.0 and had noticed no problems with Open Office. As soon as I had rebooted to use the newest kernel, I started up Azureus and it wouldn't start. I noticed that it had started the 1.4.2 java environment (assume this must be the compat-lib). anyway the error message is: StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process. /usr/azureus/azureus: line 91: 3450 Aborted ${JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR}java -cp ${CLASSPATH} -Djava.library.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main "$@" Azureus TERMINATED. Any ideas? most obvious is to remove java library, or figure out how to make azureus use the j2re instead of the lib, bu I've no idea how to do that. Thanks, Scott From goemon at anime.net Wed May 25 18:18:31 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <200505260124.33617.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 May 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > The purpose of this list is for people from the community to assist us > with testing, and this particularly applies to non-default options. It > would be good if you could help us in this regard. It would be nice if you would stop arguing against people using non-default options then :-) If you want things like reiserfs tested then stop arguing against people using it :-) -Dan From mattdm at mattdm.org Wed May 25 18:19:03 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:19:03 -0400 Subject: Locked screen In-Reply-To: <1117037679.4014.6.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> References: <1117037679.4014.6.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050525181903.GA27525@jadzia.bu.edu> On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 12:14:39PM -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: > > Only the system administrator should be allowed to do something, > > and that probably would entail killing my processes. > Uhm, what prevents an user with physical access from just removing power > and thereby killing your processes. Often, physical security features in a lab -- the actual machine may be in a locked cabinet. That's not the normal case, but any such feature should be easy to disable system-wide. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 73 degrees Fahrenheit. From oded.maimon at gmail.com Wed May 25 18:24:35 2005 From: oded.maimon at gmail.com (Maimon Oded) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:24:35 +0300 Subject: Installing Xen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: well, forget about it... my host name is guss and the xend-config try to listen to localhost, added this alias to my /etc/hosts file and it worked, it also worked when changing the xend-config file thanks any way. Oded. On 5/25/05, Maimon Oded wrote: > Hi, > I've installed FC4-T3 and then install the xen packages, > following this manual: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstart > I've got to the step that i need to create change the domain0 RAM used, > by running: > xm balloon 0 384 > > it didn't work because the xend is not running, I've tried to start it > by issuing: > /etc/init.d/xend start > > after a few seconds it finished and i checked to see if the xend is up, > ps -ef | grep xen returned only [xenblkd], the logs xend & xend-debug > return no new lines, > > can some one please tell me what's wrong or how i can debug this? > > (I'm using the latest Xen packages) > > thanks, > Oded. > From tombo at adamantio.net Wed May 25 17:51:15 2005 From: tombo at adamantio.net (Francesco Tombolini) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:51:15 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test Update: kernel-2.6.11-1.14_FC3 Message-ID: <1117043475.5315.4.camel@grafica.3dwebzone.org> Hi shrek-m doublececk your selinux installation! you can have the following condition: #yum list selinux-policy-targeted Installed Packages selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 1.17.30-2.96 installed selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 1.17.30-2.85 installed uninstall the old package or the update not work. Byez -- Francesco Tombolini From w.murray at rl.ac.uk Wed May 25 19:12:46 2005 From: w.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:12:46 +0100 Subject: Locked screen Message-ID: <4294CE2E.8070809@rl.ac.uk> Hi guys, Thanks for all the tips. I learnt that: *) Root password also unlocks. *) Ctrl-Atl-Fx (x=1-7) The problem is, if you are locked out you cannot just google for the way in. If the idea of a nested session is not a good one (and I can see there could be device issues) maybe we could just add a few words explaining these options? e.g.: Screen Locked Enter your (or root) password (Ctrl-Alt-Fx for a console) To be honest, I am not sure why the ctr-alt-Fx route is kinder then nesting another session. It gives similar functionality, but I will never teach my mother to do it. She will just press the 'reboot' button. Bill From pnasrat at redhat.com Wed May 25 19:24:25 2005 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:24:25 -0400 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues In-Reply-To: <4293DA46.9020405@davenjudy.org> References: <4293DA46.9020405@davenjudy.org> Message-ID: <1117049066.4432.19.camel@enki.eridu> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 19:52 -0600, David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) wrote: > No. The system is an HP laptop (zv6015) that has no PS/2 port. > > I got the system up and running with a USB mouse and then discovered > that I could get the Synaptics Touchpad working by compiling the kernel > with psmouse as a module and automating the module load/unload in > rc.local. On a clean boot with say the stock 1319 kernel, the touchpad > is dead but the same kernel recompiled with psmouse as a module works > fine. Are there any messages in dmesg? Have you put this in bugzilla if so what bz#? If not please file a bug against the kernel and CC me in. Rather than restarting can you try manipulating the psmouse via drvctl on the stock kernel. serioN may vary but you can do: echo -n "psmouse" > /sys/bus/serio/drivers/psmouse/serio0/drvctl Does that improve matters? Paul From joelonlinux at optonline.net Wed May 25 19:26:48 2005 From: joelonlinux at optonline.net (Joel Rittvo) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:26:48 -0400 Subject: Azureus and the java-compat library In-Reply-To: <4294BF17.60200@cox.net> References: <4294BF17.60200@cox.net> Message-ID: <4294D178.6000802@optonline.net> Scott wrote: > I have just completed the download and install of the rawhide > updates, which included the java-compat library required by Open > Office. Until now I have been using the j2re 1.5.0 and had noticed no > problems with Open Office. As soon as I had rebooted to use the newest > kernel, I started up Azureus and it wouldn't start. I noticed that it > had started the 1.4.2 java environment (assume this must be the > compat-lib). anyway the error message is: > > StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process. > /usr/azureus/azureus: line 91: 3450 Aborted > ${JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR}java -cp ${CLASSPATH} > -Djava.library.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main "$@" > Azureus TERMINATED. > > Any ideas? most obvious is to remove java library, or figure out how to > make azureus use the j2re instead of the lib, bu I've no idea how to do > that. > > Thanks, > > Scott > There was a new Azureus 2.3.0.2 released today, that is a bug-fix release, and one of the fixes related to JRE compatibility, I think. It might be worth grabbing and trying before you do any other changes. Joel Rittvo From marshall at novafoundry.com Wed May 25 19:37:00 2005 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:37:00 -0400 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues In-Reply-To: <1117049066.4432.19.camel@enki.eridu> References: <4293DA46.9020405@davenjudy.org> <1117049066.4432.19.camel@enki.eridu> Message-ID: <1117049820.28968.6.camel@infinity> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 15:24 -0400, Paul Nasrat wrote: > Rather than restarting can you try manipulating the psmouse via drvctl > on the stock kernel. > > serioN may vary but you can do: > > echo -n "psmouse" > /sys/bus/serio/drivers/psmouse/serio0/drvctl > > Does that improve matters? > > Paul > > That reminds me.. I found the command I used to get the touchpad working (without a recompile) on my laptop. echo -n "reconnect" > /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio0/drvctl From glozano at noldata.com Wed May 25 19:46:28 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:46:28 -0500 Subject: Evolution Crashes Message-ID: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Hello. My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, I want to know about other experiences out there... -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From justin.conover at gmail.com Wed May 25 20:21:32 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:21:32 -0500 Subject: eclipse 3.1M7.5 menu is off? Message-ID: I would guess in the menu layout that this isn't normal ftp://65.28.47.173/pub/screenshots/Screenshot.png File Edit %Refactoring.menu.label Navigate Search .......... Guess which one looks wrong :D I'll open a bug. From overholt at redhat.com Wed May 25 20:25:15 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:25:15 -0400 Subject: eclipse 3.1M7.5 menu is off? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050525202515.GA18911@redhat.com> * Justin Conover [2005-05-25 16:23]: > I would guess in the menu layout that this isn't normal > > ftp://65.28.47.173/pub/screenshots/Screenshot.png > > File Edit %Refactoring.menu.label Navigate Search .......... > > Guess which one looks wrong :D > > I'll open a bug. Yeah, I think it's the new CDT build that did this. Andrew From justin.conover at gmail.com Wed May 25 20:25:52 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:25:52 -0500 Subject: eclipse 3.1M7.5 menu is off? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5/25/05, Justin Conover wrote: > I would guess in the menu layout that this isn't normal > > ftp://65.28.47.173/pub/screenshots/Screenshot.png > > File Edit %Refactoring.menu.label Navigate Search .......... > > Guess which one looks wrong :D > > I'll open a bug. > 151299 <-- Not sure if that is the same or not, talking about the samething in the menu. From mpeters at mac.com Wed May 25 20:29:32 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:29:32 -0700 Subject: Funky X11 on Summer 2000 iMac In-Reply-To: <1117021620.2773.135.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> References: <1116998340.19228.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117021620.2773.135.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> Message-ID: <1117052972.19228.34.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 21:47 +1000, Colin Charles wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 22:19 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > > iMac kept rebooting during rawhide install - at random places but always > > while downloading, doing a minimal install got it to install all the > > way. > > Bad mirror? How did you perform the install, did you have a local > mirror? No - since I only have one ppc, I didn't see the point of making a local mirror of rawhide ppc. I suspect the rebooting was the result of connection problems, once I had the minimal install downloaded successfully everything has been peachy - no spontaneous reboots. I have experienced one hard lock up while evolution was syncing a mail directory with imap server, I don't know what caused it - I'm not going to reboot in case it comes back (I've seen that happen with apparent crashes before - even when machine stops responding to ping) though I suspect it is dead and hopefully log message has something. > > What's hogging the CPU ? > > > It will eventually suddenly drop and I can move the mouse etc. but as > > soon as I click something, anything, it gets bogged down again and the > > usage of X in top skyrockets. > > Hmm, odd. I faced this issue a while back, and never had time to debug > it, and it disappeared with the next rawhide release. Gah It seems to have been dri in my case - I commented that out of the xorg.conf and rebooted - and x came up just fine and gorgeous. From mpeters at mac.com Wed May 25 20:32:19 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:32:19 -0700 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: <1117053139.19228.37.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:46 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > Hello. > > My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to > everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, > I want to know about other experiences out there... Neither of my x86 boxes have demonstrated a single evolution crash. On my laptop evolution is usually up all the time. My ppc box has exhibited one that *might* be evolution - entire machine locked up while evolution was syncing a folder (imap) From tjb at unh.edu Wed May 25 20:36:41 2005 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:36:41 -0400 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:46 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > Hello. > > My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to > everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, > I want to know about other experiences out there... > I get crashes several times a day, usually when hitting the reply button. Since it seems completely random, it's hard to bugzilla it. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From glozano at noldata.com Wed May 25 20:40:46 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:40:46 -0500 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> It is basically the same here, I will try to run evolution gdebugged... May be you can do the same.... and after that... bugit. On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 16:36 -0400, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:46 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > > Hello. > > > > My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to > > everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, > > I want to know about other experiences out there... > > > > I get crashes several times a day, usually when hitting the reply > button. Since it seems completely random, it's hard to bugzilla it. > > tjb > -- > ======================================================================= > | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | > | Systems Programmer | > | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | > | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | > | 332 Morse Hall | > | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | > ======================================================================= > -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From jdennis at redhat.com Wed May 25 21:00:14 2005 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:00:14 -0400 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1117054814.7819.42.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:46 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > > My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to > > everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, > > I want to know about other experiences out there... I see a lot of evolution crashes as well as a pernicious "denial of workstation" ;-) I'll explain in a moment. It is not unusual for the evolution GUI to spontaneously abort, when it does it leaves the other evolution processes running. This happens once or twice a day and appears to be completely random. Interestingly, if it aborts while I'm composing mail not a single key stroke is lost when the draft is recovered so I'm assuming it has some graceful opportunity to save its state on the way down and is not an absolutely hard crash. The other problem I was seeing on a regular basis was all the resources of the machine being consumed such that I could not get to an alternate console, run ps or top, the machine was dragged to its knees. I'm pretty sure evolution in concert with spamd (filter incoming mail checkbox) was the culprit, but given how hard it was to do anything when the problem occurred I only have anecdotal evidence. I was often forced to resort to using the reset button. I suspect it was some type of fork bombing with spamd where it got caught in tight loop launching processes that would immediately die, but that's only speculation. I have not seen this problem since turning off the filter option on incoming mail. I've talked to David Malcom about this and he encouraged me to file a bugzilla, but it so hard to collect any information or see a pattern that I wasn't sure I saw the value in a bug report that simply asserted "evolution is doing something bad" ;-) -- John Dennis From mpeters at mac.com Wed May 25 21:09:49 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:09:49 -0700 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 15:40 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 16:36 -0400, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:46 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > > > My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to > > > everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, > > > I want to know about other experiences out there... > > > > > > > I get crashes several times a day, usually when hitting the reply > > button. Since it seems completely random, it's hard to bugzilla it. > > > > tjb > It is basically the same here, I will try to run evolution gdebugged... > > May be you can do the same.... and after that... bugit. It's not happening to me but I'm using imap - are either of you using imap? Is anyone using imap experiencing this? From Thomas.Duffy.99 at alumni.brown.edu Wed May 25 21:12:30 2005 From: Thomas.Duffy.99 at alumni.brown.edu (Tom Duffy) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:12:30 -0700 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1117055550.18106.12.camel@duffman> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 16:36 -0400, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:46 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > > Hello. > > > > My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to > > everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, > > I want to know about other experiences out there... > > > > I get crashes several times a day, usually when hitting the reply > button. Since it seems completely random, it's hard to bugzilla it. Yup. I hit that same one (probably) dozens of times a day. Filed this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=154877 Told, not redhat's problem. So, I filed this bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274204 Still no resolution...or forward progress. -tduffy -- I wish we lived in the America of yesteryear that only exists in the minds of us Republicans. -- Ned Flanders -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I use several imap accounts and I'm experiencing the problem. -- John Dennis From pinball at litz.org Wed May 25 21:18:21 2005 From: pinball at litz.org (Jonathan Deitch) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:18:21 -0400 Subject: 1341 smp (and all other recent smp) freezeup @ login prompt In-Reply-To: <1117035669.9191.5.camel@bree.local.net> References: <42948F31.3010404@litz.org> <1117035669.9191.5.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <4294EB9D.1060600@litz.org> Tried that, noapic, acpi=off all to no avail Jeremy Katz wrote: >On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:44 -0400, Jonathan Deitch wrote: > > >>any ideas? I'm flat-out stumped ... >> >> > >Does booting with vdso=0 help? If so, #158413 > >Jeremy > > > From mpeters at mac.com Wed May 25 21:18:28 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:18:28 -0700 Subject: Funky NIC on Summer 2000 iMac (was funky X11) In-Reply-To: <1117052972.19228.34.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1116998340.19228.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117021620.2773.135.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> <1117052972.19228.34.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1117055908.19228.51.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 13:29 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > I have experienced one hard lock up while evolution was syncing a mail > directory with imap server, I don't know what caused it - I'm not going > to reboot in case it comes back (I've seen that happen with apparent > crashes before - even when machine stops responding to ping) though I > suspect it is dead and hopefully log message has something. It decided to reboot itself. After it came up - I saw there were updates available. During subsequent yum update, it crashed again - same characteristic - during download, and then reboots itself a few minutes later (might be under a minute, didn't time). I have to suspect therefore there is a bug related to the nic driver that crashes it. While it may mean nothing - it did not crash at all during any of the yum groupinstalls I performed after the successful rawhide/http minimal install - those yum were done without X running. Might have just been luck too. It is using sungem driver for eth0 if it matters. I can't rule out bad hardware - I just aquired this mac (from mom, who I bought it for when it was new ...) but crashes she experienced generally seemed to be just due to lack of protected memory. From akonstam at trinity.edu Wed May 25 21:34:32 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:34:32 -0500 Subject: Thanks to all those who participated in firefox discussion. In-Reply-To: <200505241629.13981.rpa4email@rogers.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241629.13981.rpa4email@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20050525213432.GB31377@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> I appreciated all the information I got on firefox from the recent posts. I was wrong you can set the Download directory to ones home directory but I still say the interface to do this is too kludgey. But that's life. -- ======================================================================= Haste makes waste. -- John Heywood ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam at trinity.edu From JBuck814366460 at aol.com Wed May 25 21:23:18 2005 From: JBuck814366460 at aol.com (Jared Buck) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:23:18 -0700 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 17:13 -0400, John Dennis wrote: > > It's not happening to me but I'm using imap - are either of you using > > imap? > > Is anyone using imap experiencing this? > > I use several imap accounts and I'm experiencing the problem. > -- > John Dennis > I use evolution with an imap aol account and the program's been known to freeze on occasion. Jared From JBuck814366460 at aol.com Wed May 25 21:24:44 2005 From: JBuck814366460 at aol.com (Jared Buck) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:24:44 -0700 Subject: Thanks to all those who participated in firefox discussion. In-Reply-To: <20050525213432.GB31377@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241629.13981.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050525213432.GB31377@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1117056284.13569.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 16:34 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > I appreciated all the information I got on firefox from the recent > posts. I was wrong you can set the Download directory to ones home > directory but I still say the interface to do this is too kludgey. > > But that's life. > -- > > ======================================================================= > Haste makes waste. > -- John Heywood > ------------------------------------------- > Aaron Konstam > Computer Science > Trinity University > One Trinity Place. > San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 > > telephone: (210)-999-7484 > email:akonstam at trinity.edu > well, Aaron, firefox is "only" in version 1.04 at the moment, so there is room to make it better in the future. that's the beauty of it - it can be improved continually as long as there is demand to make it better. Jared From a.kurtz at hardsun.net Wed May 25 21:58:17 2005 From: a.kurtz at hardsun.net (Aaron Kurtz) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:58:17 -0700 Subject: Locked screen In-Reply-To: <42949976.9010502@rl.ac.uk> References: <42949976.9010502@rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1117058297.3239.14.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 16:27 +0100, William John Murray wrote: > Hi all, > Just a thought for improving Fedora. We now have a 'new login' > menu item in gnome at least, which creates a new session nested inside > the old. Isn't this MOST useful when someone has left the screen locked? > I come along, find one of my kids has locked the screen, and I can > either 'ctrl-atl-tab' or go and look for him. Bein able to just nest > a new session would be great. > Where does this have to happen? xscreensaver? Actually, xscreensaver has a configure option to do just this, but it's not turned on in the Fedora RPMs. From 4.21: * The unlock dialog can be made to have a ``New Login'' button that will run gdmflexiserver. Experimental! Considering "New Login" isn't all that stable, I can understand why it's turned off. Now if someone with a sense of graphic design volunteered a new design for the unlocking screen. -- Aaron Kurtz I will be out of the office starting 05/25/2005 and will not return until 05/27/2005. I'll be out of the office on Thursday, May 26th. I will get back to you as soon possible on the 27th. Thanks. Terri From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed May 25 22:11:44 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:11:44 -0400 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117054814.7819.42.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117054814.7819.42.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117059105.26613.4.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 17:00 -0400, John Dennis wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:46 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > > > My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to > > > everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, > > > I want to know about other experiences out there... > > I see a lot of evolution crashes as well as a pernicious "denial of > workstation" ;-) I'll explain in a moment. > > It is not unusual for the evolution GUI to spontaneously abort, when it > does it leaves the other evolution processes running. This happens once > or twice a day and appears to be completely random. Interestingly, if it > aborts while I'm composing mail not a single key stroke is lost when the > draft is recovered so I'm assuming it has some graceful opportunity to > save its state on the way down and is not an absolutely hard crash. Please can you try to get a backtrace into Bugzilla. I suspect a crash in gtkhtml3, so having the debuginfo for that package (as well as Evolution) would be useful. You should be getting backtraces via bug-buddy. If not, and if it's happening that often, please can you start evolution under gdb and try to get a backtrace. > > The other problem I was seeing on a regular basis was all the resources > of the machine being consumed such that I could not get to an alternate > console, run ps or top, the machine was dragged to its knees. I'm pretty > sure evolution in concert with spamd (filter incoming mail checkbox) was > the culprit, but given how hard it was to do anything when the problem > occurred I only have anecdotal evidence. I was often forced to resort to > using the reset button. I suspect it was some type of fork bombing with > spamd where it got caught in tight loop launching processes that would > immediately die, but that's only speculation. I have not seen this > problem since turning off the filter option on incoming mail. > > I've talked to David Malcom about this and he encouraged me to file a > bugzilla, but it so hard to collect any information or see a pattern > that I wasn't sure I saw the value in a bug report that simply asserted > "evolution is doing something bad" ;-) I went ahead and filed this here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=158807 From glozano at noldata.com Wed May 25 22:28:19 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117055550.18106.12.camel@duffman> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117055550.18106.12.camel@duffman> Message-ID: I think it is fedora 4 problem because my fc3 desktops dont suffer from anything __ Gustavo A. Lozano glozano at noldata.com On Wed, 25 May 2005, Tom Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 16:36 -0400, Thomas J. Baker wrote: >> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:46 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to >>> everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, >>> I want to know about other experiences out there... >>> >> >> I get crashes several times a day, usually when hitting the reply >> button. Since it seems completely random, it's hard to bugzilla it. > > Yup. I hit that same one (probably) dozens of times a day. > > Filed this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=154877 > > Told, not redhat's problem. > > So, I filed this bug: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274204 > > Still no resolution...or forward progress. > > -tduffy > > > -- > I wish we lived in the America of yesteryear that only exists in the > minds of us Republicans. > -- Ned Flanders > From byte at aeon.com.my Wed May 25 22:38:13 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:38:13 +1000 Subject: Funky NIC on Summer 2000 iMac (was funky X11) In-Reply-To: <1117055908.19228.51.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1116998340.19228.11.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117021620.2773.135.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> <1117052972.19228.34.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055908.19228.51.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1117060693.31902.35.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:18 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > It is using sungem driver for eth0 if it matters. > I can't rule out bad hardware - I just aquired this mac (from mom, who > I > bought it for when it was new ...) but crashes she experienced > generally > seemed to be just due to lack of protected memory. Want to turn netconsole on, and debug (you can log it on another x86 pc, just as well)? Warning though, its a lot of UDP traffic xmon for you wouldn't be appropriate seeing that you only have one mac -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From c.hauser at active.ch Wed May 25 22:49:20 2005 From: c.hauser at active.ch (Christian Hauser) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 00:49:20 +0200 Subject: FC4 with Eclipse 3.1M7? Message-ID: <429500F0.4000101@active.ch> Hi list Reviewing the latest changes it seems to me that Eclipse 3.1M7 and the latest I-Builds of CDT made it into FC4. Looking at rawhide report of 20050525 all the changes made to Eclipse and the CDT plugin were before hard freeze. Am I right or do I need to update the final FC4 to get 3.1M7 (or even 3.1RC1)? Thanks, Christian From rodd at clarkson.id.au Wed May 25 23:52:37 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:52:37 +1000 Subject: Weird file association? (was: eclipse 3.1M7.5 menu is off?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117065157.3261.2.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 15:21 -0500, Justin Conover wrote: > I would guess in the menu layout that this isn't normal > > ftp://65.28.47.173/pub/screenshots/Screenshot.png > Out of interest, I clicked on the link above in Evolution to view the image and strangely Gimp decided that it was going to open the file (which didn't actually work) I would have expected this link to have opened in firefox or mozilla. Is this something that should be bugzilla'd? R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From rodd at clarkson.id.au Wed May 25 23:59:09 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:59:09 +1000 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:23 -0700, Jared Buck wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 17:13 -0400, John Dennis wrote: > > > It's not happening to me but I'm using imap - are either of you using > > > imap? > > > Is anyone using imap experiencing this? > > > > I use several imap accounts and I'm experiencing the problem. > > -- > > John Dennis > > > > I use evolution with an imap aol account and the program's been known to > freeze on occasion. Which IMAP are people using. There's IMAP and IMAPrev1. I'm using the later and evolution is running fine for me (I get a crash maybe once every two weeks). Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 26 00:01:35 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:01:35 +1000 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117059105.26613.4.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117054814.7819.42.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117059105.26613.4.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117065696.3261.12.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 18:11 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > Please can you try to get a backtrace into Bugzilla. I suspect a crash > in gtkhtml3, so having the debuginfo for that package (as well as > Evolution) would be useful. > > You should be getting backtraces via bug-buddy. If not, and if it's > happening that often, please can you start evolution under gdb and try > to get a backtrace. Malcolm, Is it worth these people installing the related debuginfo packages for a more full backtrace? At a guess I assume it would help to install: evolution-debuginfo evolution-webcal-debuginfo evolution-data-server-debuginfo gtkhtml3-debuginfo libgal2-debuginfo libsoup-debuginfo R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From mpeters at mac.com Thu May 26 00:04:22 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:04:22 -0700 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117065862.19228.59.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 17:13 -0400, John Dennis wrote: > > It's not happening to me but I'm using imap - are either of you using > > imap? > > Is anyone using imap experiencing this? > > I use several imap accounts and I'm experiencing the problem. OK - since it is not happening to me, I'm just trying to maybe help pin down _where_ there error is occurring. In fc3 evolution did crash too often for me, causing me to switch to balsa - I really like balsa but I also like evolution (now that it is working for me) so making sure it continues to work for me is of interest ... I don't do any filtering on my clients, all filtering is done via fetchmail/procmail on the imap server (dovecot on fedora rawhide). I doubt that's the difference though. However - I do use evolution a little differently - I don't read messages in their own window, I just use the preview pane and read them in the preview pane - and reply by selecting the message in the folder (in main evolution window) and right click to reply. I'll try the other way (reading messages in their own window) and see if I experience the crashes as well that way. From mpeters at mac.com Thu May 26 00:09:22 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:09:22 -0700 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1117066163.19228.64.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 09:59 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > Which IMAP are people using. There's IMAP and IMAPrev1. > > I'm using the later and evolution is running fine for me (I get a crash > maybe once every two weeks). I'm using rawhide dovecot for my imap server - I believe it is just IMAP in the setup box that I choose when setting up imap. I'm running rawhide evo on a thinkpad T20 (700PIII), A7N8X deluxe (XP 2700+) and a Summer 2000 iMac (450 G3). The x86 boxes only have 256 MB of ram, the PPC has 384 MB of ram. I've only been using the iMac for about 24 hours and its primary purpose is gourmet (a python recipe manager) for my kitchen, so I can't say for sure it isn't affected, but it doesn't appear to be. From caf at omen.com Thu May 26 00:10:50 2005 From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:10:50 -0700 Subject: Still can't set Dual Head, 1920x1200 Message-ID: <1117066250.9530.4.camel@omen.com> Adter some 160 mb of yum updates I again tried to set up my two monitors. Main monitor is Dell 2405FPW which likes 1920x1200. 2nd is a 1024x768 LCD. Main monitor is now stuck at 1024x768. Setting dual head with the GUI doesn't do anything except make changes to the conf file. Card is All In Wonder 9600 (no suffix). -- Chuck Forsberg caf at omen.com www.omen.com 503-614-0430 Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software" 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 FAX 629-0665 From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Thu May 26 00:16:53 2005 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 02:16:53 +0200 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1117066613.2745.18.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 09:59 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: [snip] > Which IMAP are people using. There's IMAP and IMAPrev1. IMAP, experienced an occasional crash and before that IMAPrev1, similar occasional behavior too. I still get the occasional problem that evo can't save a sent message to my imap sent folder. Just installed the debug packages so will submit info to bugzilla if I can get anything useful. Regards, Patrick From cwt-lists at codexinteractive.com Thu May 26 01:40:51 2005 From: cwt-lists at codexinteractive.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:40:51 -0400 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues In-Reply-To: <4293DA46.9020405@davenjudy.org> References: <4293DA46.9020405@davenjudy.org> Message-ID: <1117071651.3473.9.camel@ivan> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 19:52 -0600, David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) wrote: > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > >fre, 20.05.2005 kl. 05.57 skrev David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud): > No. The system is an HP laptop (zv6015) that has no PS/2 port. I've an HP dv1000 [dv1227us] with the Synaptics touchpad. My xorg.conf is posted here [along with some things I did to get this machine working better] : http://www.codexinteractive.com/cwt/dv1000/ > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > EndSection In your Module section, do you Load "synaptics" ? HTH, -- Craig Thomas From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 26 02:15:02 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:15:02 +1000 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117066163.19228.64.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1117066163.19228.64.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1117073702.3601.2.camel@octopus.redfishdemo.com> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 17:09 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 09:59 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > > > > Which IMAP are people using. There's IMAP and IMAPrev1. > > > > I'm using the later and evolution is running fine for me (I get a crash > > maybe once every two weeks). > > I'm using rawhide dovecot for my imap server - I believe it is just IMAP > in the setup box that I choose when setting up imap. Actually, I mean, what IMAP method are people using in Evolution. Evolution provides two ways to connect to IMAP servers: IMAP is the original implementation used in evolution IMAPrev1 is (supposedly) a new improved version Check in Edit > Preferences > Mail Accounts > [your account] > Receiving Email > Server Type and look at whether you're using IMAP or IMAPrev1. R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From glozano at noldata.com Thu May 26 02:23:33 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117065862.19228.59.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117065862.19228.59.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: All of my crahses are in the preview pane also. I do never open messages in their own window, just for informationl purpose... __ Gustavo A. Lozano glozano at noldata.com On Wed, 25 May 2005, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 17:13 -0400, John Dennis wrote: >>> It's not happening to me but I'm using imap - are either of you using >>> imap? >>> Is anyone using imap experiencing this? >> >> I use several imap accounts and I'm experiencing the problem. > > OK - since it is not happening to me, I'm just trying to maybe help pin > down _where_ there error is occurring. In fc3 evolution did crash too > often for me, causing me to switch to balsa - I really like balsa but I > also like evolution (now that it is working for me) so making sure it > continues to work for me is of interest ... > > I don't do any filtering on my clients, all filtering is done via > fetchmail/procmail on the imap server (dovecot on fedora rawhide). I > doubt that's the difference though. > > However - I do use evolution a little differently - I don't read > messages in their own window, I just use the preview pane and read them > in the preview pane - and reply by selecting the message in the folder > (in main evolution window) and right click to reply. > > I'll try the other way (reading messages in their own window) and see if > I experience the crashes as well that way. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 26 02:24:58 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:24:58 +1000 Subject: Locked screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117074298.3601.8.camel@octopus.redfishdemo.com> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 12:35 -0400, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > William John Murray on 05/25/05 11:27 AM wrote: > > > Just a thought for improving Fedora. We now have a 'new login' > > menu item in gnome at least, which creates a new session nested inside > > the old. Isn't this MOST useful when someone has left the screen locked? AFAIK this isn't precisely correct. New Login doesn't create a nested x session, it creates a new x session on another virtual terminal (eg vt8) > I completely dissagree with this feature request! > > If I have locked my screen, I did it for a reason. > And that reason was, I didn't want _anyone_ else to use my system. > There should be no way for another user to overide it. > Only the system administrator should be allowed to do something, > and that probably would entail killing my processes. You're using a multi-user operating system. Expecting that others shouldn't be able to access the system at the same time as you is a little odd isn't it? Expecting that others can't access your session is quite reasonable, but the way that New Login works means that you're session remains untouched with the user logging into a new (and unique) session of their own. > > I come along, find one of my kids has locked the screen, and I can > > either 'ctrl-atl-tab' or go and look for him. Bein able to just nest > > a new session would be great. > > Your problem appears to be that you want to disable the > screen locking mechanism so your kids can't lock _you_ out. > > If you need another 'session' you could always flip to another screen, > login, do your stuff (even startx), log out, and leave the kids' > screen still locked and untouched. Which is really what New Login actually does, just from within X. Maybe the confusion in all this is that someone used the term 'nested' when the new session isn't really nested at all. R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 26 02:28:16 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:28:16 +1000 Subject: Locked screen In-Reply-To: <4294CE2E.8070809@rl.ac.uk> References: <4294CE2E.8070809@rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1117074496.3601.12.camel@octopus.redfishdemo.com> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 20:12 +0100, William John Murray wrote: > Hi guys, > Thanks for all the tips. I learnt that: > *) Root password also unlocks. > *) Ctrl-Atl-Fx (x=1-7) > > The problem is, if you are locked out you cannot just google for the > way in. What about using links from v[1-6]? > If the idea of a nested session is not a good one (and I can see > there could be device issues) maybe we could just add a few words > explaining these options? Device issues aside, New Login doesn't create a nested session, it creates a new session in a new virtual terminal. > > e.g.: > > Screen Locked > Enter your (or root) password > (Ctrl-Alt-Fx for a console) > > To be honest, I am not sure why the ctr-alt-Fx route is kinder then > nesting another session. It gives similar functionality, but I will > never teach my mother to do it. She will just press the 'reboot' button. Actually, you're idea of allowing others to log in as themselves when another user has worked away from the desktop and their session is (rightly) locked is a great one. The irony here is that you can do it from within Gnome when the other users session isn't locked, but you can't do it when the session is locked (and I think this is when you're more likely to want to do it). R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From overholt at redhat.com Thu May 26 02:46:01 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:46:01 -0400 Subject: FC4 with Eclipse 3.1M7? In-Reply-To: <429500F0.4000101@active.ch> References: <429500F0.4000101@active.ch> Message-ID: <20050526024601.GA22657@redhat.com> * Christian Hauser [2005-05-25 18:53]: > > Reviewing the latest changes it seems to me that Eclipse 3.1M7 and the > latest I-Builds of CDT made it into FC4. Looking at rawhide report of > 20050525 all the changes made to Eclipse and the CDT plugin were before > hard freeze. Am I right or do I need to update the final FC4 to get > 3.1M7 (or even 3.1RC1)? FC4 has yet to be released so yes, 3.1M7 will be available when it is. Andrew From russell at coker.com.au Thu May 26 04:02:41 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:02:41 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200505261402.46385.russell@coker.com.au> On Thursday 26 May 2005 04:18, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Thu, 26 May 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > > The purpose of this list is for people from the community to assist us > > with testing, and this particularly applies to non-default options. It > > would be good if you could help us in this regard. > > It would be nice if you would stop arguing against people using > non-default options then :-) I am not making a blanket argument against ReiserFS. ReiserFS will work fine for /var/spool/news or /var/spool/mail, also it has never had any SE Linux issues for such use, there's the context= mount option and prior to that people were using ReiserFS on SE Linux systems with genfscon entries in the policy to give all ReiserFS files the desired context. One machine I ran had ReiserFS used for /var/spool/squid and was configured such that all ReiserFS files had the type squid_cache_t. Also given the fsck issue, it's probably best to mount ReiserFS file systems as nodev,nosuid. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From rc040203 at freenet.de Thu May 26 04:03:34 2005 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 06:03:34 +0200 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117059105.26613.4.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117054814.7819.42.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117059105.26613.4.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117080214.27282.307.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 18:11 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 17:00 -0400, John Dennis wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 14:46 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > > > > My evolution is generating a lot of crashes (currently I am up 2 date to > > > > everything in the yum development tree)... Before posting the bugzilla, > > > > I want to know about other experiences out there... > > > > I see a lot of evolution crashes as well as a pernicious "denial of > > workstation" ;-) I'll explain in a moment. > > > > It is not unusual for the evolution GUI to spontaneously abort, when it > > does it leaves the other evolution processes running. This happens once > > or twice a day and appears to be completely random. Interestingly, if it > > aborts while I'm composing mail not a single key stroke is lost when the > > draft is recovered so I'm assuming it has some graceful opportunity to > > save its state on the way down and is not an absolutely hard crash. > > Please can you try to get a backtrace into Bugzilla. I suspect a crash > in gtkhtml3, so having the debuginfo for that package (as well as > Evolution) would be useful. FWIW: On FC3, I am pretty sure gtkhtml3 is at least one cause of evo crashes, because many of the evo crashes I experience happen during cut'n'paste operations from terminals into composer windows (Typical case: Cut'n'paste a log from gcc's output into composer). Ralf From rc040203 at freenet.de Thu May 26 04:06:21 2005 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 06:06:21 +0200 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117055550.18106.12.camel@duffman> Message-ID: <1117080382.27282.311.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 18:28 -0400, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > I think it is fedora 4 problem because my fc3 desktops dont suffer from > anything FWIW: I've seen most (all?) the crashes having been mentioned on FC3, too. Ralf From russell at coker.com.au Thu May 26 04:09:58 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:09:58 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <4294A242.2040401@namesys.com> References: <200505260124.33617.russell@coker.com.au> <4294A242.2040401@namesys.com> Message-ID: <200505261410.01716.russell@coker.com.au> On Thursday 26 May 2005 02:05, Hans Reiser wrote: > > Finally, are there still known situations where a corrupt ReiserFS file > > > > > >They were reported years ago on the ReiserFS list. Hans didn't seem > > inclined to fix them as fixing such bugs incurred a performance penalty. > > > >If that policy has changed in the ReiserFS development team then I'll > > write some scripts to randomly corrupt ReiserFS file systems and try to > > reproduce kernel bugs. > > I don't know which bugs you are referring to, and I don't remember > saying what you ascribe to me. Perhaps you refer to my not fscking each > node after it is read into memory before it is used by the filesystem. > I don't think anybody does that, not just us. Some checks are made by > us, but a complete and exhaustive check is not made by anyone that I > know of. We could probably write a node plugin that would crc check > after the node is read from disk. That would be reasonable, and I would > accept a node plugin to do that. I don't know the exact cause of the bug in terms of which part of the code was responsible. I reported a bug where I had a file system which if mounted would have a "find /" operation cause a kernel Oops. As far as I am aware the bug in question was never fixed. It is my belief and the belief of many other people that a corrupted file system should not be able to corrupt kernel memory, not even if the file system is maliciously generated (think about the case of an attacker inserting a CD or USB disk). I am not aware of any other Linux file system for which a corrupted partition can cause kernel memory corruption (please inform me if you know of one). As for the "complete and exhaustive check", maybe this is an advantage for a file system based on Inode tables as the data structures are simpler and easier to check? -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From dave at davenjudy.org Thu May 26 04:32:33 2005 From: dave at davenjudy.org (David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud)) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:32:33 -0600 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues Message-ID: <42955161.4030100@davenjudy.org> Craig Thomas wrote: >On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 19:52 -0600, David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) >wrote: > > >>> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: >>> >> >> >>>> >fre, 20.05.2005 kl. 05.57 skrev David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud): >>> >>> > > > > > >>> No. The system is an HP laptop (zv6015) that has no PS/2 port. >> >> > >I've an HP dv1000 [dv1227us] with the Synaptics touchpad. My xorg.conf >is posted here [along with some things I did to get this machine working >better] : > >http://www.codexinteractive.com/cwt/dv1000/ > > > > >>> Section "InputDevice" >>> Identifier "Mouse0" >>> Driver "mouse" >>> Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" >>> Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" >>> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" >>> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" >>> EndSection >> >> > >In your Module section, do you Load "synaptics" ? > >HTH, > > -- Craig Thomas > Actually, the hint from one of the other folks regarding sending a reset (turned out to actually be "reconnect") to the driver seems to have done the trick. Still not working is my Broadcom wireless NIC and I'm still seeing a lot of clock drift. Everything seems to be set right for the wireless NIC so my guess is I just need to discover the right incantation to get the radio to actually turn on. The clock drift issue was also discussed in another post so it sounds like there is a kernel patch to at least get it down to something reasonable. I'll see if it get fixed in the kernel at some point and, if not, I'll probably be stuck continuing to compile a custom kernel. Dave From Fred.New at microlink.ee Thu May 26 06:57:30 2005 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:57:30 +0300 Subject: Still can't set Dual Head, 1920x1200 Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EC44@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 26. mai 2005. a. 3:11, Chuck Forsberg wrote: > Adter some 160 mb of yum updates I again tried to set up > my two monitors. Main monitor is Dell 2405FPW which likes > 1920x1200. 2nd is a 1024x768 LCD. > > Main monitor is now stuck at 1024x768. Setting dual head > with the GUI doesn't do anything except make changes to > the conf file. > > Card is All In Wonder 9600 (no suffix). The latest update to hwdata, 0.158-1, doesn't contain the 2405FPW in MonitorsDB. You could try editing it (/usr/share/hwdata/MonitorsDB) and adding the two lines I mentioned earlier: Dell Inc.; Dell 2405FPW (Analog); DELA00F; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0 Dell Inc.; Dell 2405FPW (Digital); DELA010; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0 I can't help you with dual head configuration. Fred From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu May 26 07:13:15 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:13:15 +0200 Subject: Locked screen In-Reply-To: <1117074298.3601.8.camel@octopus.redfishdemo.com> References: <1117074298.3601.8.camel@octopus.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <4295770B.8020200@gmx.de> Rodd Clarkson wrote: >Maybe the confusion in all this is that someone used the term 'nested' >when the new session isn't really nested at all. > for clarification, please correct me if i am wrong. - a nested Xsession = Xsession in a Xsession xterm$ Xnest :1 -query localhost xdmcp must be enabled, eg. gdmsetup, gdmchooser - a new Xsession = a new Xserver eg. vt8,9 xterm$ gdmflexiserver tty$ $ startx -- :1 -- shrek-m From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Thu May 26 07:54:41 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:54:41 +0800 Subject: eclipse failed to access cvs (both ssh1 and ssh2) through proxy. Message-ID: <9792751e0505260054ba29713@mail.gmail.com> Greetings, I find eclipse cannot access cvs through proxy now. I have done this successfully some time ago, but I cannot remember the version since I update it everyday, while I don't use cvs that often. I did some tests to see what combination causes this, see attachment for the log files. I did tests for both latest kernel 1353 and 2.6.11.7, both sun-jre-1.4.2_06 and gcj-4.0.0-8, both http and socks5 proxy. the cvs servers I tried to access are sf.linuxforum.net (SSH1) and cvs.gro.clinux.org (SSH2). For gcj, all the tests failed, every access caused an internal error. For sun-jre, only the combination of SSH2 cvs and HTTP proxy failed, but eclipse crashed immediately in the test! If I accessed the SSH1 cvs first, then the SSH2 one in turn, it would not crash but prompt an internal error. -- bbbush ^_^ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: eclipse-log.tar.gz Type: application/x-gzip Size: 18837 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mefoster at gmail.com Thu May 26 08:02:41 2005 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:02:41 +0100 Subject: eclipse failed to access cvs (both ssh1 and ssh2) through proxy. In-Reply-To: <9792751e0505260054ba29713@mail.gmail.com> References: <9792751e0505260054ba29713@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 5/26/05, Yuan Yijun wrote: > I find eclipse cannot access cvs through proxy now. I have done this > successfully some time ago, but I cannot remember the version since I > update it everyday, while I don't use cvs that often. Have you tried with the *very* *very* latest Eclipse update (3.1M7-whatever)? I seem to recall that I couldn't access cvs stuff over ssh with 3.1M6, but last night after updating it worked well for me on one repository. MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Thu May 26 09:13:47 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:13:47 +0800 Subject: eclipse failed to access cvs (both ssh1 and ssh2) through proxy. In-Reply-To: References: <9792751e0505260054ba29713@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9792751e050526021360065c8d@mail.gmail.com> 2005/5/26, Mary Ellen Foster : > > Have you tried with the *very* *very* latest Eclipse update > (3.1M7-whatever)? I seem to recall that I couldn't access cvs stuff > over ssh with 3.1M6, but last night after updating it worked well for > me on one repository. > > MEF > Oh I forgot to mention that I'm using eclipse-3.1-M7-5 in the test. Last night when I ask about this in #fedora, some kind person have suggested me to do a update, but I always update from mirrors.geekbone.org , which is some hours late than main repository, so I have to made the test today :) -- bbbush ^_^ From sundaram at redhat.com Thu May 26 09:20:14 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:50:14 +0530 Subject: eclipse failed to access cvs (both ssh1 and ssh2) through proxy. In-Reply-To: <9792751e050526021360065c8d@mail.gmail.com> References: <9792751e0505260054ba29713@mail.gmail.com> <9792751e050526021360065c8d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <429594CE.3040006@redhat.com> H >Oh I forgot to mention that I'm using eclipse-3.1-M7-5 in the test. >Last night when I ask about this in #fedora, some kind person have >suggested me to do a update, but I always update from >mirrors.geekbone.org , which is some hours late than main repository, >so I have to made the test today :) > > > "some kind person" happens to be me :-). Its probably better to let yum choose a mirror randomly rather than pinning it to any specific one especially if it lags behind regards Rahul From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Thu May 26 09:39:32 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:39:32 +0800 Subject: eclipse failed to access cvs (both ssh1 and ssh2) through proxy. In-Reply-To: <429594CE.3040006@redhat.com> References: <9792751e0505260054ba29713@mail.gmail.com> <9792751e050526021360065c8d@mail.gmail.com> <429594CE.3040006@redhat.com> Message-ID: <9792751e050526023939c6ea37@mail.gmail.com> 2005/5/26, Rahul Sundaram : > H > > "some kind person" happens to be me :-). Its probably better to let yum > choose a mirror randomly rather than pinning it to any specific one > especially if it lags behind > > regards > Rahul > > If only there is more than one I can choose from ;p AFAIK that is the only one mirror in our country. Luckily, it is very fast and keeps up to date. -- bbbush ^_^ From buildsys at redhat.com Thu May 26 11:49:22 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 07:49:22 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050526 changes Message-ID: <200505261149.j4QBnMsN029953@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: GFS-kernel-2.6.11.7-20050519.153509.FC4.7 ----------------------------------------- anaconda-10.2.1.3-1 ------------------- * Wed May 25 2005 Paul Nasrat - 10.2.1.3-1 - Fix to not write boot flag to first part on pmac with 2 disks * Wed May 25 2005 Jeremy Katz - 10.2.1.2-1 - Fix display size of PVs when PVs previously existed (clumens, #158696) * Wed May 25 2005 Jeremy Katz - 10.2.1.1-1 - Blacklist rpmdb-fedora on upgrade (pnasrat, #158666) - Langsupport fixes (clumens, #154572, #158389) binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2-2 ------------------------ * Wed May 25 2005 Jakub Jelinek 2.15.94.0.2.2-2 - bfd and readelf robustification (CAN-2005-1704, #158680) cman-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.9 ------------------------------------------ coreutils-5.2.1-48 ------------------ * Wed May 25 2005 Tim Waugh 5.2.1-48 - Prevent buffer overflow in who(1) (bug #158405). dlm-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.9 ----------------------------------------- eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M7.7 ------------------------- * Wed May 25 2005 Andrew Overholt 3.1.0_fc-0.M7.7 - Fix ecj symlink in /usr/share/java (rh#158734). * Sun May 22 2005 Andrew Overholt 3.1.0_fc-0.M7.4 - Remove compilation of jdt.ui jar.so on ppc. * Sat May 21 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M7.3 - Add ecj-options patch to bootstrap source. - Make embedded browser widget work (Robin Green). - Bump required version of java-gcj-compat to the latest (-40jpp_24rh). - Use -lgcjawt when building with gcj. ethereal-0.10.11-2 ------------------ * Wed May 25 2005 Radek Vokal 0.10.11-2 - rebuilt evince-0.3.1-1 -------------- * Sun May 22 2005 Marco Pesenti Gritti - 0.3.1-1 - Update to 0.3.1 * Sat May 07 2005 Marco Pesenti Gritti - 0.3.0-1 - Update to 0.3.0 firefox-0:1.0.4-4 ----------------- * Tue May 24 2005 Christopher Aillon 0:1.0.4-4 - Only install searchplugins for en-US, since there isn't any way to dynamically select searchplugins per locale yet. * Mon May 23 2005 Christopher Aillon 0:1.0.4-3 - Add support for locales: af-ZA, ast-ES, ca-AD, cs-CZ, cy-GB, da-DK, de-DE, el-GR, en-GB es-AR, es-ES, eu-ES, fi-FI, fr-FR, ga-IE, he-IL, hu-HU, it-IT, ko-KR, ja-JP, ja-JPM, mk-MK, nb-NO, nl-NL, pa-IN, pl-PL, pt-BR, pt-PT, ro-RO, ru-RU, sk-SK, sl-SI, sq-AL, sv-SE, tr-TR, zh-CN, zh-TW firstboot-1.3.42-1 ------------------ * Wed May 25 2005 Jeremy Katz - 1.3.42-1 - Stop using deprecated gtk.{TRUE,FALSE} (#153033) glibc-2.3.5-9 ------------- * Tue May 24 2005 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.5-9 - update from CVS - increase bindresvport's LOWPORT to 512, apparently some broken daemons don't think 0 .. 511 ports are reserved * Mon May 23 2005 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.5-8 - update from CVS - fix kernel version check in ld.so - fix sendfile{,64} prototypes (BZ#961) - try more ports in bindresvport if all 600..1023 are used, don't use priviledged ports when talking to portmap (#141773) gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.31 ------------------------------------------- initscripts-8.11.1-1 -------------------- * Wed May 25 2005 Bill Nottingham 8.11.1-1 - fix inability to rename devices brought about by the fix for java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_26rh ------------------------------------------ * Wed May 25 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_26rh - Import java-gcj-compat 1.0.30. * Wed May 25 2005 Gary Benson - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_25rh - Update tools.jar with the ecj's new jarfile name (#158734). kernel-2.6.11-1.1363_FC4 ------------------------ * Wed May 25 2005 Dave Jones - Disable TPM driver, it breaks 8139 driver. - Revert to previous version of ipw2x00 drivers. The newer ones sadly brought too many problems this close to the release. I'll look at updating them again for an update. - Update to 2.6.12rc5 Fix potential local DoS. 1-2 other small fixes. - Tweak to fix up some vdso arithmetic. - Disable sysenter again for now. * Wed May 25 2005 David Woodhouse - Turn off CONFIG_ISA on PPC again. It makes some Macs unhappy (#149200) - Make Speedtouch DSL modem resync automatically libgal2-2:2.4.2-4 ----------------- * Wed May 25 2005 David Malcolm - 2:2.4.2-4 - added Akira Tagoh's patch to ensure input strings are committed in the correct order in Evolution's Tasks widget (#157398) net-snmp-5.2.1-12 ----------------- * Wed May 18 2005 Radek Vokal - 5.2.1-12 - session free fixed, agentx modules build fine (#157851) - fixed dependency for net-snmp libs (#156932) * Wed May 04 2005 Radek Vokal - 5.2.1-11 - report gigabit Ethernet speeds using Ethtool (#152480) poppler-0.3.2-1 --------------- * Sun May 22 2005 Marco Pesenti gritti - 0.3.2-1 - Update to 0.3.2 * Sat May 07 2005 Marco Pesenti Gritti - 0.3.1 - Update to 0.3.1 system-config-httpd-5:1.3.2-2 ----------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Phil Knirsch 1.3.2-2 - Fixed the KeepAlive bug that was already fixed as errata for RHEL3 (#137815) - Fixed use of True and False instead of gtk.TRUE and gtk.FALSE (#153039) - Fixed traceback when no X-server is running - Fixed problem with ServerSignature setting (#156639) - Removed static /manual alias from httpd.conf template (#144239) - Updated gtk.mainloop() and gtk.mainquit() to new API names - Added pa translation file (#157826) * Tue Sep 28 2004 Phil Knirsch 1.3.1-1 - Added a bunch of new translations * Fri Sep 10 2004 Phil Knirsch 1.3.0-1 - Huge HIG 2 compliance changes by Vladimir Djokic system-config-lvm-0.9.30-1.0 ---------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Jim Parsons 0.9.30-1.0 - Fixed bz157744 * Tue May 17 2005 Jim Parsons 0.9.29-1.0 - Version Bump * Tue May 17 2005 Jim Parsons 0.9.28-1.0 - Version Bump yum-2.3.2-7 ----------- * Wed May 25 2005 Paul Nasrat - 2.3.2-7 - Drop erase reversal patch From overholt at redhat.com Thu May 26 12:32:46 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:32:46 -0400 Subject: eclipse failed to access cvs (both ssh1 and ssh2) through proxy. In-Reply-To: <9792751e0505260054ba29713@mail.gmail.com> References: <9792751e0505260054ba29713@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050526123246.GB28177@redhat.com> * Yuan Yijun [2005-05-26 03:57]: > > I find eclipse cannot access cvs through proxy now. I have done this Are you using Eclipse's 'ext' or 'extssh' method of CVS connection? Andrew From yuan.bbbush at gmail.com Thu May 26 12:43:59 2005 From: yuan.bbbush at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:43:59 +0800 Subject: eclipse failed to access cvs (both ssh1 and ssh2) through proxy. In-Reply-To: <20050526123246.GB28177@redhat.com> References: <9792751e0505260054ba29713@mail.gmail.com> <20050526123246.GB28177@redhat.com> Message-ID: <9792751e0505260543e85d2e0@mail.gmail.com> 2005/5/26, Andrew Overholt : > > Are you using Eclipse's 'ext' or 'extssh' method of CVS connection? > > Andrew > both are extssh. using 'ext' would cause 'unknown response' in both cases (SSH1 and SSH2). -- bbbush ^_^ From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Thu May 26 13:16:29 2005 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:16:29 -0400 Subject: Still failing deps for /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 References: <200505261149.j4QBnMsN029953@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: yum upgrade: --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 for package: GFS-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution filelists.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 2.8 MB 00:15 developmen: ################################################## 3767/3767 Added 101 new packages, deleted 101 old in 7.36 seconds --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 for package: dlm-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 for package: gnbd-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 for package: cman-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by package GFS-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by package dlm-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by package gnbd-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by package cman-kernel From caf at omen.com Thu May 26 13:29:28 2005 From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 06:29:28 -0700 Subject: Still can't set Dual Head, 1920x1200 In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EC44@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8EC44@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <1117114168.5114.4.camel@omen.com> I added those lines and selected the analog version. No difference from generic 1920x122 LCD - display is squished to the right 3/4 of the screen. Perhaps the server that gets loaded does not support the AllInWonder 9600 beyond some crude basic level? This would explain dual head in the conf file being ignored. On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 09:57 +0300, Fred New wrote: > On 26. mai 2005. a. 3:11, Chuck Forsberg wrote: > > Adter some 160 mb of yum updates I again tried to set up > > my two monitors. Main monitor is Dell 2405FPW which likes > > 1920x1200. 2nd is a 1024x768 LCD. > > > > Main monitor is now stuck at 1024x768. Setting dual head > > with the GUI doesn't do anything except make changes to > > the conf file. > > > > Card is All In Wonder 9600 (no suffix). > > The latest update to hwdata, 0.158-1, doesn't contain the > 2405FPW in MonitorsDB. You could try editing it > (/usr/share/hwdata/MonitorsDB) and adding the two lines > I mentioned earlier: > > Dell Inc.; Dell 2405FPW (Analog); DELA00F; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0 > Dell Inc.; Dell 2405FPW (Digital); DELA010; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0 > > I can't help you with dual head configuration. > > Fred -- Chuck Forsberg caf at omen.com www.omen.com 503-614-0430 Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software" 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 FAX 629-0665 From tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com Thu May 26 13:54:54 2005 From: tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:54:54 +0200 Subject: Still failing deps for /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 In-Reply-To: References: <200505261149.j4QBnMsN029953@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117115693.28196.2.camel@tarjei.predichem.nett> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 15:16, Neal Becker wrote: > yum upgrade: > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by > package GFS-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by > package dlm-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by > package gnbd-kernel > Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by > package cman-kernel > I would guess that your mirror is not completely updated yet? Are you getting both the new kernel (1363) and the new GFS-kernel, dlm-kernel etc. packages from todays update? Looks like you've got the new kernel, but not the new kernel packages (if not, something's seriously broken of course...) -- Tarjei From notting at redhat.com Thu May 26 14:45:00 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:45:00 -0400 Subject: Still failing deps for /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 In-Reply-To: References: <200505261149.j4QBnMsN029953@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050526144500.GA20384@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> The kernel beat GFS into the repository. It will get sorted out by tomorrow. Unless Dave builds another late kernel. Bill From Thomas.Duffy.99 at alumni.brown.edu Thu May 26 14:45:43 2005 From: Thomas.Duffy.99 at alumni.brown.edu (Tom Duffy) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 07:45:43 -0700 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117073702.3601.2.camel@octopus.redfishdemo.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1117066163.19228.64.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117073702.3601.2.camel@octopus.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1117118743.16531.6.camel@duffman> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 12:15 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > Actually, I mean, what IMAP method are people using in Evolution. > > Evolution provides two ways to connect to IMAP servers: > > IMAP is the original implementation used in evolution > IMAPrev1 is (supposedly) a new improved version > > Check in Edit > Preferences > Mail Accounts > [your account] > Receiving > Email > Server Type and look at whether you're using IMAP or IMAPrev1. Shoot. I just switched to the newer version and lost all my color coding, not to mention real threading, it seems. -tduffy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Thu May 26 16:45:06 2005 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Nifty Hat Mitch) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:45:06 -0700 Subject: scriptlets fail for me Message-ID: <20050526164506.GA18430@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> I get pre and post scriptlet errors for a number of recent updates. Is there an easy way to debug them? Updating : evince ######################### [1/2] error: %post(evince-0.3.1-1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new place to hang my hat :-) Found me a cable too. From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 26 17:12:38 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:12:38 -0400 Subject: scriptlets fail for me In-Reply-To: <20050526164506.GA18430@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <20050526164506.GA18430@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <604aa79105052610122bdb3848@mail.gmail.com> On 5/26/05, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: > > I get pre and post scriptlet errors for a number of > recent updates. Is there an easy way to debug them? > > Updating : evince ######################### [1/2] > error: %post(evince-0.3.1-1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 rpm -q --scripts evince the postinstall scriptlet is the important one in this case since you recieved the error during "Updating". If you had seen the error during "Cleanup" it would have been postuninstall scriptlet. attempt to execute each step in the scriptlet and see which step fails -jef From Thomas.Duffy.99 at alumni.brown.edu Thu May 26 17:33:22 2005 From: Thomas.Duffy.99 at alumni.brown.edu (Tom Duffy) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:33:22 -0700 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117118743.16531.6.camel@duffman> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1117066163.19228.64.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117073702.3601.2.camel@octopus.redfishdemo.com> <1117118743.16531.6.camel@duffman> Message-ID: <1117128802.17831.2.camel@duffman> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 07:45 -0700, Tom Duffy wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 12:15 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > Actually, I mean, what IMAP method are people using in Evolution. > > > > Evolution provides two ways to connect to IMAP servers: > > > > IMAP is the original implementation used in evolution > > IMAPrev1 is (supposedly) a new improved version > > > > Check in Edit > Preferences > Mail Accounts > [your account] > Receiving > > Email > Server Type and look at whether you're using IMAP or IMAPrev1. > > Shoot. I just switched to the newer version and lost all my color > coding, not to mention real threading, it seems. In the end, this was a very *bad* idea. Using the "new" IMAPrev1, evolution would start to filter my email and then hang with a message "Pinging IMAP server" and never recover. I would pkill -9 evolution, then retry only with the same consequences. Back to using just plain IMAP. BTW, my IMAP server is: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 ACL QUOTA LITERAL+ NAMESPACE UIDPLUS CHILDREN BINARY UNSELECT LANGUAGE XSENDER X-NETSCAPE XSERVERINFO AUTH=PLAIN] bos-mail1 IMAP4 service (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.05 (built Jan 10 2005)) -tduffy -- I wish we lived in the America of yesteryear that only exists in the minds of us Republicans. -- Ned Flanders -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Some of the libraries have already been proposed for inclusion in the C++ Standards Committee's upcoming C++ Standard Library Technical Report.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This is a bug fix release. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue May 24 2005 Benjamin Kosnik 1.32.0-6 - (#153093: boost warns that gcc 4.0.0 is an unknown compiler) - (#152205: development .so symlinks should be in -devel subpackage) - (#154783: linker .so symlinks missing from boost-devel package) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/ ba5f2eb1fe84796c6a510f2cf06b5cf5 SRPMS/boost-1.32.0-6.fc3.src.rpm 32f2b28fda1207e4141f99e909ec5905 x86_64/boost-1.32.0-6.fc3.x86_64.rpm 9403a0aa0cdbe57df1baa091832a04e0 x86_64/boost-devel-1.32.0-6.fc3.x86_64.rpm fcf34aeeeaff6ba27d411dbfe1ba6f4e x86_64/debug/boost-debuginfo-1.32.0-6.fc3.x86_64.rpm 26789dd25e61709297636ff7cbe8c4f3 x86_64/boost-1.32.0-6.fc3.i386.rpm 26789dd25e61709297636ff7cbe8c4f3 i386/boost-1.32.0-6.fc3.i386.rpm 83acd099c0b5e8d431b4fbdbd63da259 i386/boost-devel-1.32.0-6.fc3.i386.rpm 05ff931cfbf02f40551dd33faf14d723 i386/debug/boost-debuginfo-1.32.0-6.fc3.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/$ARCH --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tony at immunix.com Thu May 26 18:19:46 2005 From: tony at immunix.com (Tony Jones) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:19:46 -0700 Subject: Xen and rebooting Message-ID: <20050526181946.GA10127@immunix.com> I've been having this issue since I installed FC4. I was hoping a couple of yum upgrades would have fixed it but nope :( Still having the issue with 2.6.11-1.1319_FC4. Whenever I reboot a domain it stops at "Restarting system". It'll sit there until in another window I do an 'xm list' at which point the domain will reboot, almost like xend is waiting for xm to reap some info. I have restart set to onreboot. Any clues as to what I'm doing wrong? Thanks Tony From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu May 26 18:29:03 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:29:03 -0400 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117065696.3261.12.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117054814.7819.42.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117059105.26613.4.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1117065696.3261.12.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1117132144.4061.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 10:01 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 18:11 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > Please can you try to get a backtrace into Bugzilla. I suspect a crash > > in gtkhtml3, so having the debuginfo for that package (as well as > > Evolution) would be useful. > > > > You should be getting backtraces via bug-buddy. If not, and if it's > > happening that often, please can you start evolution under gdb and try > > to get a backtrace. > > Malcolm, > > Is it worth these people installing the related debuginfo packages for a > more full backtrace? Yes please; it makes the backtraces much more informative. > > At a guess I assume it would help to install: > > evolution-debuginfo > evolution-webcal-debuginfo > evolution-data-server-debuginfo > gtkhtml3-debuginfo > libgal2-debuginfo > libsoup-debuginfo Yes, that's a good list (though evolution-webcal-debuginfo is unlikely to be needed). More information on doing this can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces Thanks Dave From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu May 26 18:35:35 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:35:35 -0400 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117066613.2745.18.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1117066613.2745.18.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1117132535.4061.7.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 02:16 +0200, Patrick wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 09:59 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > [snip] > > Which IMAP are people using. There's IMAP and IMAPrev1. > > IMAP, experienced an occasional crash and before that IMAPrev1, similar > occasional behavior too. I still get the occasional problem that evo > can't save a sent message to my imap sent folder. Just installed the > debug packages so will submit info to bugzilla if I can get anything > useful. Thanks. You can get more debuginfo about Evolution's mail handling by setting CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 when launching evolution from a command-line. Lots more information on tools to track down Evolution bugs can be found on Evolution's website here: http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/bugs.shtml Hope this helps From nman64 at n-man.com Thu May 26 18:37:25 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:37:25 -0500 Subject: Thanks to all those who participated in firefox discussion. In-Reply-To: <20050525213432.GB31377@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241629.13981.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050525213432.GB31377@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <42961765.3040106@n-man.com> akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: >I appreciated all the information I got on firefox from the recent >posts. I was wrong you can set the Download directory to ones home >directory but I still say the interface to do this is too kludgey. > >But that's life. > > Firefox 1.1, which just entered the alpha stage, will have a revised preferences manager, among other new and different features. Perhaps you'll like it better. You can always let the developers know what you think and what you would like to see. See #firefox on irc.mozilla.org or visit bugzilla.mozilla.org to make recommendations and requests. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com www.n-man.com -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Thu May 26 19:07:48 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:07:48 -0700 Subject: A little help resolving dependencies please Message-ID: <1117134468.10381.8.camel@home-lap> I have a few depend errors this morning that seem to have been around for a while. How do I work around these, i.e. what should I exclude or remove to update fully? --> Processing Conflict: python-devel conflicts python < 2.4.1-2 --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 for package: dlm-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 for package: gnbd-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Processing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 for package: cman-kernel Importing Additional filelist information for dependency resolution --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by package GFS-kernel Error: python-devel conflicts with python < 2.4.1-2 Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by package dlm-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by package gnbd-kernel Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1355_FC4 is needed by package cman-kernel From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 26 22:41:27 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:41:27 +0100 Subject: X server problem Message-ID: <1117147287.7814.68.camel@localhost> Hi, For some reason, the X server on my wife's box is looking for a version of the kernel which is not on there to load modules from. It's been updated from FC2 to FC4t3 and currently, the kernel installed is from a few days back while X is looking for the one which came on the CD. I can't install from the CD the correct kernel as rpm is unhappy and giving db3/4 issues What do I need to change and where is it so that points to the version I have installed on there? TTFN Paul P.S. Sorry if this looks familiar, no email for days :-( -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy From dwmw2 at infradead.org Thu May 26 22:48:38 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:48:38 +0100 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1117038756.4014.22.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050525143818.GA15874@jadzia.bu.edu> <1117038756.4014.22.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117147718.2247.48.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 12:32 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: > Uhm, I think it's pretty interesting that the original complaint > revolved around something an ordinary user would never do (or at least > never should): selecting the file '/usr/bin/emacs' in the file > chooser. That's just an example. Point it at _any_ large directory. Watch it suck. Sometimes I start pine to read my email while I'm waiting for Evolution. Kmail is looking more and more attractive every day. > > However, that's not to say the issues reported shouldn't be fixed > though. File bugs. > I probably would have filed a bug about it, but I suppose I consider it an Evolution issue, because that's when it bites me most. Since I've already got enough Evo issues outstanding, some of which even have patches attached but _still_ aren't fixed, I can't really be bothered to file any more. There has to come a point when you just give up on it and start looking for an alternative. -- dwmw2 From dr at cluenet.de Thu May 26 23:18:12 2005 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 01:18:12 +0200 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050526231812.GA11853@srv01.cluenet.de> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:11:51PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > The new gtk+ file selector has to be the worst abomination in user > interface design that I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. Hehe. On Atari ST, people _paid_ for commercial alternative file selector boxes! Some of them were really good. :-) I don't understand what's so hard to get _file_selection_ done right. Best regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr at cluenet.de -- dr at IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0 From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 26 23:37:47 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:37:47 +1000 Subject: Evolution Crashes In-Reply-To: <1117128802.17831.2.camel@duffman> References: <1117050388.2892.1.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117053401.5117.7.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> <1117053646.2892.11.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117055389.19228.41.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117055618.7819.43.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1117056198.13569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117065550.3261.7.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1117066163.19228.64.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> <1117073702.3601.2.camel@octopus.redfishdemo.com> <1117118743.16531.6.camel@duffman> <1117128802.17831.2.camel@duffman> Message-ID: <1117150667.3193.4.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 10:33 -0700, Tom Duffy wrote: > > > Check in Edit > Preferences > Mail Accounts > [your account] > Receiving > > > Email > Server Type and look at whether you're using IMAP or IMAPrev1. > > > > Shoot. I just switched to the newer version and lost all my color > > coding, not to mention real threading, it seems. > > In the end, this was a very *bad* idea. Using the "new" IMAPrev1, > evolution would start to filter my email and then hang with a message > "Pinging IMAP server" and never recover. I would pkill -9 evolution, > then retry only with the same consequences. Back to using just plain > IMAP. Eweh! Sorry (although Fedora does eat babies, etc) for any inconvenience. Could I however ask that you file a bug report about this to bugzilla.gnome.org (or redhat's BZ) so that this can be addressed. I actually use IMAPrev1 and it works wonders (from where I email). It's faster and more solid than the original implementation and everything I use works for me (including threading). So I'm a little surprised that you've had such a nasty experience (especially since this is released code). R -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From rodd at clarkson.id.au Thu May 26 23:43:48 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:43:48 +1000 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050526231812.GA11853@srv01.cluenet.de> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050526231812.GA11853@srv01.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <1117151028.3193.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 01:18 +0200, Daniel Roesen wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:11:51PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > The new gtk+ file selector has to be the worst abomination in user > > interface design that I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. > > Hehe. > > On Atari ST, people _paid_ for commercial alternative file selector > boxes! Some of them were really good. :-) > > I don't understand what's so hard to get _file_selection_ done right. Mmmm, maybe you have answered your own question ;-] My guess is that file selection is a tricky subject because everyone thinks about how to do things a little differently, so everyone wants there file selector to work a little differently. I'm actually quite happy with the GTK+ file selector, for what it's worth. There's a few things (like big directories taking too long to appear) that bug me, but I think it's orders of magnitude better than the last file selector. I love that all my mounts appear as a list and that I can just mount them there (instead of having to do it elsewhere and come back). I can't wait until other applications figure that own out (for example gFTP). R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From dr at cluenet.de Thu May 26 23:49:48 2005 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 01:49:48 +0200 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1117151028.3193.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050526231812.GA11853@srv01.cluenet.de> <1117151028.3193.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <20050526234948.GA12220@srv01.cluenet.de> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 09:43:48AM +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > On Atari ST, people _paid_ for commercial alternative file selector > > boxes! Some of them were really good. :-) > > > > I don't understand what's so hard to get _file_selection_ done right. > > Mmmm, maybe you have answered your own question ;-] Nope. We were paying as the TOS one sucked so hard and all usable alternatives were at least shareware. Not because there were only few geniusses who got it right. :-) Best regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr at cluenet.de -- dr at IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0 From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 26 23:56:09 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:56:09 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1117038756.4014.22.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050525143818.GA15874@jadzia.bu.edu> <1117038756.4014.22.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa791050526165660f64ad5@mail.gmail.com> On 5/25/05, David Zeuthen wrote: > FWIW, I'm very happy about the new GTK+ file chooser. I like the > bookmarks (I have a 'Patches', 'Downloads', 'Hacking' bookmarks that I > use all the time) Not to nitpick, but i find the bookmarks idea somewhat limiting because all the bookmarks are global and show up for all applications. It would be far more useful to me to be able to supplement the bookmark list with application specific bookmarks. So instead of having 10+ bookmarks that show up all the time. I could have the 3 or 4 relevant bookmarks that I use frequently for each application show up. -jef From gmaxwell at gmail.com Thu May 26 23:58:07 2005 From: gmaxwell at gmail.com (Gregory Maxwell) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:58:07 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1117151028.3193.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050526231812.GA11853@srv01.cluenet.de> <1117151028.3193.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: On 5/26/05, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > My guess is that file selection is a tricky subject because everyone > thinks about how to do things a little differently, so everyone wants > there file selector to work a little differently. Agreed. > I'm actually quite happy with the GTK+ file selector, for what it's > worth. There's a few things (like big directories taking too long to > appear) that bug me, but I think it's orders of magnitude better than > the last file selector. I love that all my mounts appear as a list and > that I can just mount them there (instead of having to do it elsewhere > and come back). I can't wait until other applications figure that own > out (for example gFTP). I really dislike the current GTK+ file selector, even ignoring its poor performance on big directories. But I disliked all other renditions to some degree or another as well. I've always chalked it up to taste and thus never complained. Why not make the file selector another app entirely? This would make it easier for there to be alternatives, plus it might fit in nicely with SElinux. (i.e. the app could be prevented from having FS access outside it's own files, but still have the ability to open user files since the file selector could be trusted to only open files the user actually selected, or only write to names the user selected). From rodd at clarkson.id.au Fri May 27 00:29:26 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:29:26 +1000 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050526234948.GA12220@srv01.cluenet.de> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050526231812.GA11853@srv01.cluenet.de> <1117151028.3193.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <20050526234948.GA12220@srv01.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <1117153766.3193.20.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 01:49 +0200, Daniel Roesen wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 09:43:48AM +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > > On Atari ST, people _paid_ for commercial alternative file selector > > > boxes! Some of them were really good. :-) > > > > > > I don't understand what's so hard to get _file_selection_ done right. > > > > Mmmm, maybe you have answered your own question ;-] > > Nope. We were paying as the TOS one sucked so hard and all usable > alternatives were at least shareware. Not because there were only few > geniusses who got it right. :-) That's my point. If designing a file selector is so easy, why were so many alternatives available? R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From lynn at garlic.com Fri May 27 01:02:47 2005 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:02:47 -0600 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> 1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang and had to regress to kernel 1276. From nman64 at n-man.com Fri May 27 01:32:52 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:32:52 -0500 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050526231812.GA11853@srv01.cluenet.de> <1117151028.3193.10.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <429678C4.3020503@n-man.com> Gregory Maxwell wrote: >I really dislike the current GTK+ file selector, even ignoring its >poor performance on big directories. But I disliked all other >renditions to some degree or another as well. I've always chalked it >up to taste and thus never complained. > >Why not make the file selector another app entirely? This would make >it easier for there to be alternatives, plus it might fit in nicely >with SElinux. (i.e. the app could be prevented from having FS access >outside it's own files, but still have the ability to open user files >since the file selector could be trusted to only open files the user >actually selected, or only write to names the user selected). > > > I think the current selector is horrible. The two things that bother me (and that seem to bother a lot of other people) are slow read times for large directories, and that it doesn't provide a quick and easy way to type in a path and filename. Being able to type the path in is such a simple provision, I don't see why it isn't in the dialog. I could live with the poor speeds if I could simply type in an absolute name and not have to worry about browsing or pulling up another dialog. I like the bookmark capability, but it could be expanded and improved upon. I personally think that the KDE dialog has it about right. As for making it a separate program, I don't think that is really practical. It would (should) not help any with SELinux. The dialog returns only a filename, it is not its place to actually load or save a file. That is something that only the calling application should do. Trying to change that fundamental idea would be foolish and very problematic. Being able to change dialogs would be nice, but I think that it would be best implemented as 'profiles' or 'interfaces' for one piece of dialog software, not by splitting the function to multiple programs. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com www.n-man.com -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From justin.conover at gmail.com Fri May 27 02:09:40 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:09:40 -0500 Subject: eclipse 3.1M7.5 menu is off? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5/25/05, Justin Conover wrote: > On 5/25/05, Justin Conover wrote: > > I would guess in the menu layout that this isn't normal > > > > ftp://65.28.47.173/pub/screenshots/Screenshot.png > > > > File Edit %Refactoring.menu.label Navigate Search .......... > > > > Guess which one looks wrong :D > > > > I'll open a bug. > > > 151299 <-- Not sure if that is the same or not, talking about the > samething in the menu. > Filed a bug, still in the latest release https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=158951 From pinball at litz.org Fri May 27 02:18:07 2005 From: pinball at litz.org (Jonathan Deitch) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:18:07 -0400 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> Message-ID: <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> Where do your processes hang? I can't get mine to allow a login : it boots to a login prompt and freezes ... doesn't matter if I'm in runlevel 1, 3 or 5 ... It's done this with any FC3 or 4 kernel I've tried ... If your 1276 is working, what kernel parameters are you passing? - litz Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > 1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang > and had to regress to kernel 1276. > From dr at cluenet.de Fri May 27 03:02:52 2005 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 05:02:52 +0200 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <20050526231812.GA11853@srv01.cluenet.de> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050526231812.GA11853@srv01.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <20050527030252.GA14242@srv01.cluenet.de> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 01:18:12AM +0200, Daniel Roesen wrote: > On Atari ST, people _paid_ for commercial alternative file selector > boxes! Some of them were really good. :-) > > I don't understand what's so hard to get _file_selection_ done right. BTW... found some nice pages showing all relevant ones: http://aicq.atari-users.net/file_sel/ http://atari.transaction.free.fr/interactive/software/3dom.htm http://www.atarimagazines.com/startv5n4/uis.html All this was 1987-1993 or so. UIS started in 1987... that's almost 20 years ago. :-)= Best regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr at cluenet.de -- dr at IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0 From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Fri May 27 02:39:15 2005 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Nifty Hat Mitch) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:39:15 -0700 Subject: scriptlets fail for me In-Reply-To: <604aa79105052610122bdb3848@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050526164506.GA18430@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <604aa79105052610122bdb3848@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050527023915.GA20526@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 01:12:38PM -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:12:38 -0400 > From: Jeff Spaleta > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: scriptlets fail for me > Reply-To: Jeff Spaleta , > For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > On 5/26/05, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: > > > > I get pre and post scriptlet errors for a number of > > recent updates. Is there an easy way to debug them? > > > > Updating : evince ######################### [1/2] > > error: %post(evince-0.3.1-1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 > > > rpm -q --scripts evince > > the postinstall scriptlet is the important one in this case since you > recieved the error during "Updating". If you had seen the error during > "Cleanup" it would have been postuninstall scriptlet. > > attempt to execute each step in the scriptlet and see which step fails Thanks.... I see this. I suspect the packages are not right. At least I have not broken sh and company. # for S in $SCHEMAS; do > gconftool-2 --makefile-install-rule /etc/gconf/schemas/$S > /dev/null > done I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/gconf/schemas/evince.schemas"Failed to open `/etc/gconf/schemas/evince.schemas': No such file or directory I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/gconf/schemas/evince-thumbnailer.schemas" Failed to open `/etc/gconf/schemas/evince-thumbnailer.schemas': No such file or directory > > -jef > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new place to hang my hat :-) Found me a cable too. From talbotscott at cox.net Fri May 27 04:53:41 2005 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:53:41 -0700 Subject: Azureus and the java-compat library In-Reply-To: <4294D178.6000802@optonline.net> References: <4294BF17.60200@cox.net> <4294D178.6000802@optonline.net> Message-ID: <4296A7D5.9010201@cox.net> Joel Rittvo wrote: > Scott wrote: > >> I have just completed the download and install of the rawhide >> updates, which included the java-compat library required by Open >> Office. Until now I have been using the j2re 1.5.0 and had noticed >> no problems with Open Office. As soon as I had rebooted to use the >> newest kernel, I started up Azureus and it wouldn't start. I noticed >> that it had started the 1.4.2 java environment (assume this must be >> the compat-lib). anyway the error message is: >> >> StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java >> process. >> /usr/azureus/azureus: line 91: 3450 Aborted >> ${JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR}java -cp ${CLASSPATH} >> -Djava.library.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main "$@" >> Azureus TERMINATED. >> >> Any ideas? most obvious is to remove java library, or figure out how >> to make azureus use the j2re instead of the lib, bu I've no idea how >> to do that. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Scott >> > > There was a new Azureus 2.3.0.2 released today, that is a bug-fix > release, and one of the fixes related to JRE compatibility, I think. > It might be worth grabbing and trying before you do any other changes. > > Joel Rittvo > Joel: Thanks for your response. I did download the new azureus, but unfortunately, that did not solve the problem. I was able to specify the java version from within the azureus startup script by merely entering the java bin directory of the java 1.5.0 executable and it works again! Scott From byte at aeon.com.my Fri May 27 05:21:58 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:21:58 +1000 Subject: Continuing Synaptic Touchpad issues In-Reply-To: <1117049066.4432.19.camel@enki.eridu> References: <4293DA46.9020405@davenjudy.org> <1117049066.4432.19.camel@enki.eridu> Message-ID: <1117171318.31902.163.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 15:24 -0400, Paul Nasrat wrote: > > echo -n "psmouse" > /sys/bus/serio/drivers/psmouse/serio0/drvctl Is there a reason as to why the drvctl is only write-only, by default? -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From linxt at comcast.net Fri May 27 06:48:10 2005 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:48:10 -0700 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> Message-ID: <200505262348.10393.linxt@comcast.net> On Thursday 26 May 2005 19:18, Jonathan Deitch wrote: > Where do your processes hang? > > I can't get mine to allow a login : it boots to a login prompt and > freezes ... doesn't matter if I'm in runlevel 1, 3 or 5 ... > > It's done this with any FC3 or 4 kernel I've tried ... > > If your 1276 is working, what kernel parameters are you passing? > > - litz > > Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > > 1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang > > and had to regress to kernel 1276. Please supply a bit more information about your system (M/B make/model, cpu, memory, components). I've used 1303, 1305 and 1312 smp kernels with no problems. Have a gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P w/athlon 2800MP cpus, 2GB ram, nVidia geforce4 AGP and 2-120GB WD SCSI drives under an Adaptec ASC-29160 controller. Everything runs great right from installation. Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From dwmw2 at infradead.org Fri May 27 07:43:18 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:43:18 +0100 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <604aa791050526165660f64ad5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050525143818.GA15874@jadzia.bu.edu> <1117038756.4014.22.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <604aa791050526165660f64ad5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1117179798.21715.3.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 19:56 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Not to nitpick, but i find the bookmarks idea somewhat limiting > because all the bookmarks are global and show up for all applications. > It would be far more useful to me to be able to supplement the > bookmark list with application specific bookmarks. So instead of > having 10+ bookmarks that show up all the time. I could have the 3 or > 4 relevant bookmarks that I use frequently for each application show > up. I'd settle for it just remembering the last directory I pointed it at, and starting there. -- dwmw2 From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Fri May 27 07:51:00 2005 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Nifty Hat Mitch) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 00:51:00 -0700 Subject: scriptlets fail for me -- Thanks. In-Reply-To: <20050527023915.GA20526@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <20050526164506.GA18430@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <604aa79105052610122bdb3848@mail.gmail.com> <20050527023915.GA20526@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <20050527075100.GA21641@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 07:39:15PM -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 01:12:38PM -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On 5/26/05, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: > > > > > > I get pre and post scriptlet errors for a number of > > > recent updates. Is there an easy way to debug them? > > > > > > Updating : evince ######################### [1/2] > > > error: %post(evince-0.3.1-1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 255 > > > > rpm -q --scripts evince > > > > the postinstall scriptlet is the important one in this case since you > > recieved the error during "Updating". If you had seen the error during > > "Cleanup" it would have been postuninstall scriptlet. > > > > attempt to execute each step in the scriptlet and see which step fails > > Thanks.... Well running each the scripts by hand let me update and correct packages that had been tangled by various interrupted installs and or other rawhide adventures. Some of those adventures generated package collisions most if not all are now tidied up. Now to retest some of the things that caused me to post some bugs. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new place to hang my hat :-) Found me a cable too. From filip.tsachev at gmail.com Fri May 27 09:52:00 2005 From: filip.tsachev at gmail.com (Filip Tsachev) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:52:00 +0300 Subject: FC4t3 and switching multiple X troubleshooting Message-ID: ok so after I have more than one X sessions I can switch ONLY between F7 and F1-6... and F8 ... and so on are just blank kind of console screens (console mouse is shown) any comment will be highly appreciated! the thing is I have X:0 then I go to native term and startx -- :1 and I play with it then I press Ctrl+Alt+F7 (:0) play with it and I want to get back to :1 and Ctrl+Alt+F8...9..10.. just can't switch a black screen with mouse cursor (console)... but I can switch to :0 again... -- Regards, Filip Tsachev Technical Department www.infodesign.bg F-Secure Business Partner From pbrobinson at gmail.com Fri May 27 10:38:47 2005 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:38:47 +0100 Subject: Various bookmark problems in firefox Message-ID: <5256d0b050527033888c87ba@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, Just thought I'd see if others were experiencing the same problems as me with bookmarks in firefox. I'm seeing a couple of weird issues. - The first is if I right click on the Personal toolbar and click create folder the folder gets created within the last folder on the toolbar rather than actually on the toolbar. - If a site has a favicon it doesn't show up in the address bar although it does on show on t he tab - As a result of the lack of a favicon I can't drag it to the toolbar or a folder on the toolbar to create a bookmark - If i use the 'Bookmark this page' option in the bookmark menu not all the folders show up Cheers, Pete From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri May 27 11:00:38 2005 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:00:38 -0400 Subject: FC4t3 and switching multiple X troubleshooting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4296FDD6.3070302@insight.rr.com> Filip Tsachev wrote: > ok so after I have more than one X sessions I can switch ONLY between > F7 and F1-6... and F8 ... and so on are just blank kind of console > screens (console mouse is shown) any comment will be highly > appreciated! > > the thing is I have X:0 then I go to native term and startx -- :1 and > I play with it then I press Ctrl+Alt+F7 (:0) play with it and I want > to get back to :1 and Ctrl+Alt+F8...9..10.. just can't switch a black > screen with mouse cursor (console)... but I can switch to :0 again... I use startx -- :8 to start the second instance of X. Using :1 would not allow some applications to launch from the second running X session :8 seems to allow all screens to work. I use ctl-alt-F7 (user Gnome) for the first and ctl-alt-F8 (user KDE) for the second. Jim -- Some Windows were made to be broken. From wowbagger at sktc.net Fri May 27 11:30:20 2005 From: wowbagger at sktc.net (David D. Hagood) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:30:20 -0500 Subject: File selectors (was Why is Firefox Better) In-Reply-To: <1117179798.21715.3.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050525143818.GA15874@jadzia.bu.edu> <1117038756.4014.22.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <604aa791050526165660f64ad5@mail.gmail.com> <1117179798.21715.3.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> Message-ID: <429704CC.4060502@sktc.net> As a long time user of Universal File Selector, and as a person who is also dismayed at the direction the GTK file selector is taking (and indeed, many of the directions Gnome is taking), I'd like to say this: If, indeed, the model Gnome is heading toward is "more simplicity, more consistancy, more spatial-ness" then why not eliminate the file selector alltogether, and instead simply use Nautilus to drag and drop files onto the app? When an app requests a file selector, just launch a Nautilus window, and a drop-target window. OK, now that you all are gagging - perhaps this thread is drifting a bit? From buildsys at redhat.com Fri May 27 11:42:40 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:42:40 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050527 changes Message-ID: <200505271142.j4RBgeCG010521@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Removed package perl-Text-Kakasi Removed package kakasi Removed package libtabe Removed package pmake Removed package autoconvert Removed package recode Removed package SDL_net Removed package SDL_mixer Removed package SDL_image Removed package tmake Removed package skkdic Updated Packages: GFS-kernel-2.6.11.7-20050519.153509.FC4.8 ----------------------------------------- ImageMagick-6.2.2.0-2 --------------------- * Thu May 26 2005 - 6.2.2.0-2 - fix a denial of service in the xwd coder (#158791, CAN-2005-1739) SDL-1.2.8-3.2 ------------- * Thu May 26 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.2.8-3.2 - fix configure script for libdir so library deps are identical on all arches (#158346) cman-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.10 ------------------------------------------- dlm-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.10 ------------------------------------------ eclipse-1:3.1.0_fc-0.M6.22 -------------------------- * Sun May 22 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.22 - Bump required version of java-gcj-compat to the latest (-40jpp_24rh). - Add patch to make swt use libgcjawt instead of libjawt for gcj. * Fri May 20 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.21 - Add ecj-options patch to bootstrap source. - Make embedded browser widget work (Robin Green). * Thu May 19 2005 Ben Konrath 3.1.0_fc-0.M6.20 - Add ecj-options patch. gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.32 ------------------------------------------- java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_24rh ------------------------------------------ * Fri May 20 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_24rh - Update libjawt.so symlink to reflect libgcjawt.so's new name. * Thu May 19 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_23rh - Import java-gcj-compat 1.0.29. * Wed May 18 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_22rh - Move gcc-java requirement from base to -devel. system-config-lvm-0.9.32-1.0 ---------------------------- * Thu May 26 2005 Jim Parsons 0.9.32-1.0 - Fix for 158872; x86_64 pam file path * Mon May 23 2005 Jim Parsons 0.9.31-1.0 - Version bump for RHEL4 From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri May 27 12:28:46 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:28:46 +0200 Subject: edit, save pdf forms Message-ID: <4297127E.90701@gmx.de> hi, sorry, i have actually no FC4tx for testing. can evince or an other pdf-viewer in FC edit and save pdf forms ? eg. via google: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw9.pdf acroread >=5.1 can edit and save acroread <5.1 can edit but not save http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html -- shrek-m From dwmw2 at infradead.org Fri May 27 12:58:26 2005 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:58:26 +0100 Subject: edit, save pdf forms In-Reply-To: <4297127E.90701@gmx.de> References: <4297127E.90701@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1117198706.12591.221.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:28 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > sorry, i have actually no FC4tx for testing. > can evince or an other pdf-viewer in FC edit and save pdf forms ? > eg. via google: > http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw9.pdf Not AFAICT. evince reports: Error: PDF version 1.6 -- xpdf supports version 1.5 (continuing anyway) and doesn't even manage to display the text which I added to the form in acroread. xpdf and kpdf do a little better -- they do actually manage to display my additions, but they don't allow me to edit it. -- dwmw2 From alan at redhat.com Fri May 27 13:38:27 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:38:27 -0400 Subject: File selectors (was Why is Firefox Better) In-Reply-To: <429704CC.4060502@sktc.net> References: <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050525143818.GA15874@jadzia.bu.edu> <1117038756.4014.22.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <604aa791050526165660f64ad5@mail.gmail.com> <1117179798.21715.3.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> <429704CC.4060502@sktc.net> Message-ID: <20050527133827.GH22050@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 06:30:20AM -0500, David D. Hagood wrote: > the app? When an app requests a file selector, just launch a Nautilus > window, and a drop-target window. > > OK, now that you all are gagging - perhaps this thread is drifting a bit? This is how openlook worked. It works very well indeed From dcbw at redhat.com Fri May 27 13:47:03 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:47:03 -0400 Subject: Firefox - why is it better? In-Reply-To: <1117179798.21715.3.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> References: <20050524163700.GA24527@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <200505241239.27996.rpa4email@rogers.com> <20050524202049.GD25159@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <1116969298.23859.16.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group> <1116972712.10919.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050524222506.GD20018@redhat.com> <1116976067.6271.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050525141508.GA18452@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050525143818.GA15874@jadzia.bu.edu> <1117038756.4014.22.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <604aa791050526165660f64ad5@mail.gmail.com> <1117179798.21715.3.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> Message-ID: <1117201623.9963.1.camel@dcbw.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 08:43 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 19:56 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > Not to nitpick, but i find the bookmarks idea somewhat limiting > > because all the bookmarks are global and show up for all applications. > > It would be far more useful to me to be able to supplement the > > bookmark list with application specific bookmarks. So instead of > > having 10+ bookmarks that show up all the time. I could have the 3 or > > 4 relevant bookmarks that I use frequently for each application show > > up. > > I'd settle for it just remembering the last directory I pointed it at, > and starting there. Unfortunately, right now this is application-determined, not file selector determined. Each app that uses the file selector must specify the directory to start at, otherwise the default is used (ie, ~). I got pissed off enough that I implemented last-directory-used for gedit. Arguably, it should be controlled by the file selector APIs though. Dan From lynn at garlic.com Fri May 27 14:10:46 2005 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:10:46 -0600 Subject: process ahngs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <20050527125835.4080173E21@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050527125835.4080173E21@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <42972A66.1020804@garlic.com> thomas taylor wrote > Please supply a bit more information about your system > (M/B make/model, cpu, memory, components). > > I've used 1303, 1305 and 1312 smp kernels with no problems. > Have a gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P w/athlon 2800MP cpus, 2GB ram, > nVidia geforce4 AGP and 2-120GB WD SCSI drives under an > Adaptec ASC-29160 controller. Everything runs great right > from installation. all 13xx smp kernels (thru 1363) ... sometimes hangs while kde is initializing after login ... sometimes not until i've attempted to use some application. I have a mozilla tab folder with 150 urls that seems to do it ... if it (rarely) otherwise gets that far. rebooting to 1276 smp kernel and everything is fine, no hangs. dell poweredge 2400, dual pentium III 1ghz processors, 1gbyte memory, poweredge raid controller, six scsi drives, hardware raid configuration, (originally shipped with redhat 7 installed) From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri May 27 15:23:04 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:23:04 +0200 Subject: edit, save pdf forms In-Reply-To: <1117198706.12591.221.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> References: <4297127E.90701@gmx.de> <1117198706.12591.221.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> Message-ID: <42973B58.6020301@gmx.de> David Woodhouse wrote: >On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:28 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > >>sorry, i have actually no FC4tx for testing. >>can evince or an other pdf-viewer in FC edit and save pdf forms ? >>eg. via google: >>http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw9.pdf >> >> >Not AFAICT. evince reports: > Error: PDF version 1.6 -- xpdf supports version 1.5 (continuing anyway) > >and doesn't even manage to display the text which I added to the form in >acroread. xpdf and kpdf do a little better -- they do actually manage to >display my additions, but they don't allow me to edit it. > thanks. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=158992 -- shrek-m From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 27 17:39:26 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:39:26 +0100 Subject: RPM Message-ID: <1117215566.10542.25.camel@localhost> Hi, Is there a way to fix rpm when it constantly says it cannot access the database in /var/lib/rpm? I'm still trying to fix the same box which is looking for the wrong kernel version when loading X TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bartk at clara.co.uk Fri May 27 18:25:50 2005 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:25:50 +0100 Subject: Runing Amarok Message-ID: <1117218350.3015.3.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> Hi all, Is anybody running Amarok on current Rawhide? For me all versions available crash within 20 sec of running or manage to crash Knotify. I was trying to compile from source but apparently Amarok is not happy with current gcc and requires either newer (?) or older version. TIA -- _________________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux User #347493 Fedora Core Rawhide www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.net From MWeiner at ag.com Fri May 27 18:32:07 2005 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:32:07 -0400 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> This may sound like a silly question, but i feel compelled to ask it anyway. OK, i have *several* rh73 servers in my environment, that i need to migrate to fc2. OK, not a real major deal, but what i was thinking was to build an internal yum repo (for updates, etc) and also put the fc2 install base on this box so i can do nfs installs, etc. Now, here is where my silly thinking/question comes in. Is it possible to use this "repository" setup but also read in say an anaconda-kickstart file? I mean without really doing kickstart? And, if not, which i suspect is the answer, what is the best way to take this yum repo box and turn it into a Kickstart server so i can do remote upgrades? I would rather not have to manually do >400 servers via yum from rh73 to fc2... Any ideas would be graciously welcome. Michael Weiner From pnasrat at redhat.com Fri May 27 19:10:07 2005 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:10:07 -0400 Subject: RPM In-Reply-To: <1117215566.10542.25.camel@localhost> References: <1117215566.10542.25.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1117221008.3248.10.camel@enki.eridu> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:39 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to fix rpm when it constantly says it cannot access the > database in /var/lib/rpm? Without error messages it's a little hard to say exactly what you are seeing. Try rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db* rm -f //usr/lib/rpmdb/i386-redhat-linux/redhat/__db* rpm -e rpmdb-fedora More advice here: http://rpm.org/hintskinks/repairdb/ Paul From ian at innisfree.net Fri May 27 19:13:44 2005 From: ian at innisfree.net (Ian McKinnon) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:13:44 -0700 Subject: libstdc++.so.2.8 and Kerio Message-ID: I was noticing that the compatible lib c++ no longer supports libstdc++.so.2.8 as it did in FC3. Kerio Mail Server I believe as of its latest release still requires that libstdc++.so.2.8 be loaded. just an FYI from my test install. Ian From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Fri May 27 19:19:08 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:19:08 -0500 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <1117221548.8763.6.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:32 -0400, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > This may sound like a silly question, but i feel compelled to ask it > anyway. OK, i have *several* rh73 servers in my environment, that i need > to migrate to fc2. Why FC2? It is end of life. Why not wait a couple of weeks and use FC4? > OK, not a real major deal, but what i was thinking > was to build an internal yum repo (for updates, etc) and also put the > fc2 install base on this box so i can do nfs installs, etc. You can do this, it is easy. Just put your Yum repo in one directory structure and the directory structure off the FC CDs in another. Share them via NFS or FTP or HTTP. > Now, here is > where my silly thinking/question comes in. Is it possible to use this > "repository" setup but also read in say an anaconda-kickstart file? I > mean without really doing kickstart? And, if not, which i suspect is the > answer, what is the best way to take this yum repo box and turn it into > a Kickstart server so i can do remote upgrades? I would rather not have > to manually do >400 servers via yum from rh73 to fc2... Without stretching too hard, I can imagine a script which will push the appropriate kernel and initrd.img out to each machine, modify lilo.conf, run /sbin/lilo and reboot. The lilo.conf file would pass a URL to the install kernel for the ks.cfg file, and upgrade the machine hands-free. > Any ideas would be graciously welcome. > Michael Weiner More info would be helpful - are all 400 servers identical, or close to identical? Thomas From ian at innisfree.net Fri May 27 19:23:19 2005 From: ian at innisfree.net (Ian McKinnon) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:23:19 -0700 Subject: system-config-securitylevel Message-ID: Somewhere in the patches in the last 3 days... When running system-config-securitylevel I am getting: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/system-config-securitylevel.py", line 18, in ? app.stand_alone() File "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/securitylevel.py", line 453, in stand_alone self.readFile() File "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/securitylevel.py", line 353, in readFile protoname = socket.getservbyport(int(service), protocol) socket.error: port/proto not found Can I get a confirmation that this is broken for someone else too? Thanks. Ian P.S. You can still access it via ASCII GUI from SSH From MWeiner at ag.com Fri May 27 19:24:22 2005 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:24:22 -0400 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E879E@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> On Behalf Of Thomas Cameron On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:32 -0400, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > This may sound like a silly question, but i feel compelled to ask it > anyway. OK, i have *several* rh73 servers in my environment, that i > need to migrate to fc2. Why FC2? It is end of life. Why not wait a couple of weeks and use FC4? > OK, not a real major deal, but what i was thinking was to build an > internal yum repo (for updates, etc) and also put the > fc2 install base on this box so i can do nfs installs, etc. You can do this, it is easy. Just put your Yum repo in one directory structure and the directory structure off the FC CDs in another. Share them via NFS or FTP or HTTP. > Now, here is > where my silly thinking/question comes in. Is it possible to use this > "repository" setup but also read in say an anaconda-kickstart file? I > mean without really doing kickstart? And, if not, which i suspect is > the answer, what is the best way to take this yum repo box and turn it > into a Kickstart server so i can do remote upgrades? I would rather > not have to manually do >400 servers via yum from rh73 to fc2... Without stretching too hard, I can imagine a script which will push the appropriate kernel and initrd.img out to each machine, modify lilo.conf, run /sbin/lilo and reboot. The lilo.conf file would pass a URL to the install kernel for the ks.cfg file, and upgrade the machine hands-free. > Any ideas would be graciously welcome. > Michael Weiner More info would be helpful - are all 400 servers identical, or close to identical? Thanks for the response Thomas, the reasoning for FC2 not 4 is simply, fc2 is production ready (at least for me) and I need to begin the upgrades as soon as possible. Once they are at fc2, itr rather trivial to do a yum update to fc4 if that's desirable, I have tested that and it works fairly well. As for the more info, well yes all 400 are basically the same, 2U Boxx boxes with Intel 440GX Mb's dual PIII and 1G RAM, some are hot swap, some arent, Adaptec SCSI controller, and same Intel 10/100 NIC. So hardware wise they are REALLY quite similar in nature. I can do an NFS install FROM my yum repo just fine, that seems to be the easy piece of this exercise - now time to learn more about KS. I have been wanting to build a KS server for sometime (~5 years now) but havent really had time, I have had to image all 750 boxes using DD/Ghost/g4u/etc and have managed pretty well for the past 5 years. Now its time to get more serious about mass imaging, as I am a thousand miles away from the datacenter - I need this to be fairly brain-less - so a NOC'ling can do the job with little intervention. Michael Weiner From mgb-fedora at yosemite.net Fri May 27 20:01:45 2005 From: mgb-fedora at yosemite.net (Mike Bird) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:01:45 -0700 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <1117221548.8763.6.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> <1117221548.8763.6.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> Message-ID: <1117224104.7707.11.camel@mgb.bullion.ims> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 12:19, Thomas Cameron wrote: > Without stretching too hard, I can imagine a script which will push the > appropriate kernel and initrd.img out to each machine, modify lilo.conf, > run /sbin/lilo and reboot. The lilo.conf file would pass a URL to the > install kernel for the ks.cfg file, and upgrade the machine hands-free. I'd suggest "lilo -R ..." instead of modifying lilo.conf. --Mike Bird From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Fri May 27 20:11:43 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:11:43 -0500 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <1117224703.8763.15.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:32 -0400, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > This may sound like a silly question, but i feel compelled to ask it > anyway. OK, i have *several* rh73 servers in my environment, that i need > to migrate to fc2. OK, not a real major deal, but what i was thinking > was to build an internal yum repo (for updates, etc) and also put the > fc2 install base on this box so i can do nfs installs, etc. Now, here is > where my silly thinking/question comes in. Is it possible to use this > "repository" setup but also read in say an anaconda-kickstart file? I > mean without really doing kickstart? And, if not, which i suspect is the > answer, what is the best way to take this yum repo box and turn it into > a Kickstart server so i can do remote upgrades? I would rather not have > to manually do >400 servers via yum from rh73 to fc2... > > Any ideas would be graciously welcome. > Michael Weiner One other thing - the upgrade from RHL 7.3 to FC2 or above is probably going to be dodgey - you are going from a 2.4 to a 2.6 kernel, glibc 2.2.5 to 2.3.5, Apache 1.3 to Apache 2.0, wu-ftpd to vsftpd, etc., etc., etc... I would only attempt it if I were pretty much positive that all the 7.3 machines were identical and I could test it in a lab a *bunch* of times. I did the internal white paper for a previous employer in regards to the RHEL 2.1 (based on RH 7.2) to RHEL 3 (based on RH 9) upgrade path. After lots of research and testing and consultation with Red Hat, the determination was that the best path was to back up data and configuration settings, wipe the drive and do a fresh install of RHEL 3 and restore data and configuration settings. YMMV. Thomas From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Fri May 27 20:12:31 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:12:31 -0500 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <1117224104.7707.11.camel@mgb.bullion.ims> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> <1117221548.8763.6.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> <1117224104.7707.11.camel@mgb.bullion.ims> Message-ID: <1117224751.8763.17.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 13:01 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 12:19, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > Without stretching too hard, I can imagine a script which will push the > > appropriate kernel and initrd.img out to each machine, modify lilo.conf, > > run /sbin/lilo and reboot. The lilo.conf file would pass a URL to the > > install kernel for the ks.cfg file, and upgrade the machine hands-free. > > I'd suggest "lilo -R ..." instead of modifying lilo.conf. Oh, I have no doubt that there would need to be several details to work out - I was just trying paint with a broad brush. Thomas From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 27 20:16:52 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:16:52 +0100 Subject: RPM In-Reply-To: <1117221008.3248.10.camel@enki.eridu> References: <1117215566.10542.25.camel@localhost> <1117221008.3248.10.camel@enki.eridu> Message-ID: <1117225012.15025.2.camel@localhost> Hi, > > Is there a way to fix rpm when it constantly says it cannot access the > > database in /var/lib/rpm? > > Without error messages it's a little hard to say exactly what you are > seeing. rpmdb : Program version 4.2 does not match environment version error : db4 error (22) from dbenv->open : Invalid argument error : cannot open package index using db3 - invalid argument (22) error : cannot open packages in /var/lib/rpm I did as you suggested and wiped the __db* files and did a rpm --rebuild -vv, but it looks more like a version number/rpm version problem. Any help appreciated. I'm getting annoyed with my other having to use my PC! TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm getting annoyed with my other having to use my >PC! > >TTFN > >Paul > > IIRC I rebooted and that problem went away. Thomas From alan at redhat.com Fri May 27 20:53:13 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:53:13 -0400 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <1117224703.8763.15.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> <1117224703.8763.15.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> Message-ID: <20050527205313.GC9772@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 03:11:43PM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > One other thing - the upgrade from RHL 7.3 to FC2 or above is probably > going to be dodgey - you are going from a 2.4 to a 2.6 kernel, glibc > 2.2.5 to 2.3.5, Apache 1.3 to Apache 2.0, wu-ftpd to vsftpd, etc., etc., > etc... You can do 7.3 to FC3 by yum upgrade if you do it a few hops at a time and providing you know about the one glitch in FC1 dependancies which means you *MUST* force an update of the e2fs debug tools before krb5 and anything depending on it by hand. If you are doing an update running off the CD then it won't bite you however. From akonstam at trinity.edu Fri May 27 21:20:47 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:20:47 -0500 Subject: RPM In-Reply-To: <1117215566.10542.25.camel@localhost> References: <1117215566.10542.25.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20050527212047.GA6119@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 06:39:26PM +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to fix rpm when it constantly says it cannot access the > database in /var/lib/rpm? > > I'm still trying to fix the same box which is looking for the wrong > kernel version when loading X > > TTFN Well ther are two things you might do: 1. Look at the permissions on the /var/lib/rpm. They should be something like this: drwxr-xr-x 2 rpm rpm 4096 May 27 17:31 /var/lib/rpm 2. It might be worthwhile to erase the __db.* files in that directory and then rebuild the rpm database. ======================================================================= Non-Reciprocal Laws of Expectations: Negative expectations yield negative results. Positive expectations yield negative results. ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University telephone: (210)-999-7484 From davej at redhat.com Fri May 27 21:51:03 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:51:03 -0400 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <20050527205313.GC9772@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> <1117224703.8763.15.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> <20050527205313.GC9772@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050527215103.GA429@redhat.com> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 04:53:13PM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 03:11:43PM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > One other thing - the upgrade from RHL 7.3 to FC2 or above is probably > > going to be dodgey - you are going from a 2.4 to a 2.6 kernel, glibc > > 2.2.5 to 2.3.5, Apache 1.3 to Apache 2.0, wu-ftpd to vsftpd, etc., etc., > > etc... > > You can do 7.3 to FC3 by yum upgrade if you do it a few hops at a time and > providing you know about the one glitch in FC1 dependancies which means you > *MUST* force an update of the e2fs debug tools before krb5 and anything > depending on it by hand. What happens when yum gets to installing udev, and sees it deprecates MAKEDEV and friends, and your /dev goes away ? That would seem to be the major spanner in the works for in-place updates. Dave From jeffy5 at optonline.net Fri May 27 22:07:08 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:07:08 -0400 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <20050527215103.GA429@redhat.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> <1117224703.8763.15.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> <20050527205313.GC9772@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050527215103.GA429@redhat.com> Message-ID: <42979A0C.8040008@optonline.net> Dave Jones wrote: >On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 04:53:13PM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 03:11:43PM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > One other thing - the upgrade from RHL 7.3 to FC2 or above is probably > > > going to be dodgey - you are going from a 2.4 to a 2.6 kernel, glibc > > > 2.2.5 to 2.3.5, Apache 1.3 to Apache 2.0, wu-ftpd to vsftpd, etc., etc., > > > etc... > > > > You can do 7.3 to FC3 by yum upgrade if you do it a few hops at a time and > > providing you know about the one glitch in FC1 dependancies which means you > > *MUST* force an update of the e2fs debug tools before krb5 and anything > > depending on it by hand. > >What happens when yum gets to installing udev, and sees it deprecates MAKEDEV and >friends, and your /dev goes away ? That would seem to be the major spanner >in the works for in-place updates. > > Dave > > > Hello, By the way, how do you do an upgrade from the command line for, say, an upgrade from FC3 to FC4T3. What is the exact command line syntax to be used for this upgrade? Jeff From danny at terweij.nl Fri May 27 22:10:45 2005 From: danny at terweij.nl (Danny Terweij) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 00:10:45 +0200 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com><1117224703.8763.15.camel@ml110.camerontech.com><20050527205313.GC9772@devserv.devel.redhat.com><20050527215103.GA429@redhat.com> <42979A0C.8040008@optonline.net> Message-ID: <009601c56308$ee33af60$1e00a8c0@prvd321> From: "Jeffrey D. Yuille" Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:07 AM > By the way, how do you do an upgrade from the command line for, > say, an upgrade from FC3 to FC4T3. What is the exact command line > syntax to be used for this upgrade? Did you google first? One of the hits : http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Upgrading_Red_Hat_Linux_with_yum.html should be working on 3 to 4 also... dunno. i suggest : test it :-) Danny From pnasrat at redhat.com Fri May 27 22:17:28 2005 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:17:28 -0400 Subject: RPM In-Reply-To: <1117225012.15025.2.camel@localhost> References: <1117215566.10542.25.camel@localhost> <1117221008.3248.10.camel@enki.eridu> <1117225012.15025.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1117232248.3367.3.camel@enki.eridu> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 21:16 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > > Is there a way to fix rpm when it constantly says it cannot access the > > > database in /var/lib/rpm? > > > > Without error messages it's a little hard to say exactly what you are > > seeing. > > rpmdb : Program version 4.2 does not match environment version > error : db4 error (22) from dbenv->open : Invalid argument > error : cannot open package index using db3 - invalid argument (22) > error : cannot open packages in /var/lib/rpm > > I did as you suggested and wiped the __db* files and did a rpm --rebuild > -vv, but it looks more like a version number/rpm version problem. > > Any help appreciated. I'm getting annoyed with my other having to use my > PC! Bugzilla please, along with documented steps you took in upgrading. Paul From talbotscott at cox.net Fri May 27 22:18:15 2005 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:18:15 -0700 Subject: system-config-securitylevel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42979CA7.30609@cox.net> Ian McKinnon wrote: >Somewhere in the patches in the last 3 days... > >When running system-config-securitylevel I am getting: > >Traceback (most recent call last): > File >"/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/system-config-securitylevel.py", >line 18, in ? > app.stand_alone() > File "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/securitylevel.py", line 453, >in stand_alone > self.readFile() > File "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/securitylevel.py", line 353, >in readFile > protoname = socket.getservbyport(int(service), protocol) >socket.error: port/proto not found > >Can I get a confirmation that this is broken for someone else too? > > >Thanks. Ian > >P.S. >You can still access it via ASCII GUI from SSH > > > > Ian: > > I am getting the same as you. I didn't see a bugzilla on this. Did you try the system-config-securitylevel-tui? That one works for me. Scott From mgb-fedora at yosemite.net Fri May 27 22:35:32 2005 From: mgb-fedora at yosemite.net (IMS - Bird, Mike) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:35:32 -0700 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <20050527215103.GA429@redhat.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E875F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> <20050527205313.GC9772@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20050527215103.GA429@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200505271535.33131.mgb-fedora@yosemite.net> On Friday 27 May 2005 02:51 pm, Dave Jones wrote: > What happens when yum gets to installing udev, and sees it deprecates > MAKEDEV and friends, and your /dev goes away ? It works. Just make sure you're running a 2.6 kernel and have FC3 initscripts installed and /sys/ mounted before installing the udev RPM. However, the thread originator is migrating RH7.3->FC2 and shouldn't need to worry about udev. Instead he'll probably need to install (not upgrade) the FC2 db4 so that RPM migration works. He can remove the old db4 after the upgrade. If he's using 3c905's he may have to chkconfig kudzu off as FC2 kudzu tended to lock them up, which is a pain when your datacenter is a thousand miles away. If he originally configured his network with linuxconf he may have to munge the configs in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts before they'll work in FC2. Disable IPV6 modules for best performance. Change /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice if using X. Move router configs from zebra to quagga. I also have a note about having to merge dummies on boxes with many IP addresses. Don't recall the details. Maybe dummy1 stopped working. I'd advise skipping FC1. I've upgraded several RH8->FC2 and RH9->FC2 without problems. Wish FC3->U5.04 were as easy. Never tried RH7.3->FC2. --Mike Bird From ian at innisfree.net Fri May 27 22:38:48 2005 From: ian at innisfree.net (Ian McKinnon) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:38:48 -0700 Subject: system-config-securitylevel In-Reply-To: <42979CA7.30609@cox.net> Message-ID: Right, that is the one I access via SSH. It only seems that the X GUI is buggered. So it is possible to access security settings as a roundabout until the problem is fixed. Ian On 5/27/05 3:18 PM, "Scott" wrote: > Ian McKinnon wrote: > >> Somewhere in the patches in the last 3 days... >> >> When running system-config-securitylevel I am getting: >> >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File >> "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/system-config-securitylevel.py", >> line 18, in ? >> app.stand_alone() >> File "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/securitylevel.py", line 453, >> in stand_alone >> self.readFile() >> File "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/securitylevel.py", line 353, >> in readFile >> protoname = socket.getservbyport(int(service), protocol) >> socket.error: port/proto not found >> >> Can I get a confirmation that this is broken for someone else too? >> >> >> Thanks. Ian >> >> P.S. >> You can still access it via ASCII GUI from SSH >> >> >> >> Ian: >> >> > > I am getting the same as you. I didn't see a bugzilla on this. Did > you try the system-config-securitylevel-tui? That one works for me. > > Scott From pinball at litz.org Fri May 27 22:55:21 2005 From: pinball at litz.org (Jonathan Deitch) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:55:21 -0400 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <200505262348.10393.linxt@comcast.net> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> <200505262348.10393.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4297A559.2020601@litz.org> Intel SE7501CW2 dual 1.8 xeon, 512mb memory, IDE hdd w/two 3ware raid cards for mass storage ... it's a "normal" fc4t3 installation, with all available yum updates installed. It flat out refuses to boot to smp - freezes the instant a login prompt appears whether in single mode, normal multiuser, or X. I've backtracked kernels all the way to old FC3 kernels, same thing ... - litz Thomas Taylor wrote: >On Thursday 26 May 2005 19:18, Jonathan Deitch wrote: > > >>Where do your processes hang? >> >>I can't get mine to allow a login : it boots to a login prompt and >>freezes ... doesn't matter if I'm in runlevel 1, 3 or 5 ... >> >>It's done this with any FC3 or 4 kernel I've tried ... >> >>If your 1276 is working, what kernel parameters are you passing? >> >>- litz >> >>Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >> >> >>>1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang >>>and had to regress to kernel 1276. >>> >>> > >Please supply a bit more information about your system (M/B make/model, cpu, >memory, components). > >I've used 1303, 1305 and 1312 smp kernels with no problems. Have a gigabyte >GA-7DPXDW-P w/athlon 2800MP cpus, 2GB ram, nVidia geforce4 AGP and 2-120GB WD >SCSI drives under an Adaptec ASC-29160 controller. Everything runs great >right from installation. > >Tom > > > From a.kurtz at hardsun.net Fri May 27 23:11:46 2005 From: a.kurtz at hardsun.net (Aaron Kurtz) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:11:46 -0700 Subject: system-config-securitylevel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117235506.4334.30.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 15:38 -0700, Ian McKinnon wrote: > Right, that is the one I access via SSH. It only seems that the X GUI is > buggered. So it is possible to access security settings as a roundabout > until the problem is fixed. Do other X apps work? In other words, are you forwarding X over SSH correctly? There's been some changes. ssh -X or -Y make a difference? -- Aaron Kurtz Message-ID: On Fri, 27 May 2005, Dave Jones wrote: > What happens when yum gets to installing udev, and sees it deprecates MAKEDEV and > friends, and your /dev goes away ? That would seem to be the major spanner > in the works for in-place updates. Does installing the udev rpm _delete_ existing /dev ? If it doesnt, it should be fine. And if it does... ugh. -Dan From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 27 23:21:42 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 00:21:42 +0100 Subject: RPM In-Reply-To: <1117232248.3367.3.camel@enki.eridu> References: <1117215566.10542.25.camel@localhost> <1117221008.3248.10.camel@enki.eridu> <1117225012.15025.2.camel@localhost> <1117232248.3367.3.camel@enki.eridu> Message-ID: <1117236103.15025.4.camel@localhost> Hi, > > Any help appreciated. I'm getting annoyed with my other having to use my > > PC! > > Bugzilla please, along with documented steps you took in upgrading. Will do. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. 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I'm also talking about an inotify enabled kernel. Teak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davej at redhat.com Sat May 28 00:21:42 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:21:42 -0400 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <20050528001619.66207.qmail@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050528001619.66207.qmail@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050528002142.GB27693@redhat.com> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 05:16:19PM -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > Hello: > > I think the Mono stack has to be added to Fedora Core > 5. I've been trying out their Mono Live CD > and it's great. > F-Spot/Beagle/Blam/Tomboy are all applications I would > like to use more often, outside of the few times I've > loaded up the mono live cd. > > I know that Red Hat has legal concerns over .NET/C# > but if that isn't the case with Fedora then Fedora > should go ahead and include Mono. It is the case with Fedora also. This has been beaten to death on the list numerous times. > I'm also talking about an inotify enabled kernel. Not until its accepted upstream. Dave From ian at innisfree.net Sat May 28 00:30:29 2005 From: ian at innisfree.net (Ian McKinnon) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:30:29 -0700 Subject: system-config-securitylevel In-Reply-To: <1117235506.4334.30.camel@rydia.hardsun.net> Message-ID: Sorry... I better explain. I VNC for my X apps (Makes a few things easier to use Gnome once in a while than SSH)... This app worked about 3-4 days ago, but one of the updates I received broke it. On 5/27/05 4:11 PM, "Aaron Kurtz" wrote: > On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 15:38 -0700, Ian McKinnon wrote: >> Right, that is the one I access via SSH. It only seems that the X GUI is >> buggered. So it is possible to access security settings as a roundabout >> until the problem is fixed. > > Do other X apps work? In other words, are you forwarding X over SSH > correctly? There's been some changes. ssh -X or -Y make a difference? From teamwassily at yahoo.com Sat May 28 01:04:29 2005 From: teamwassily at yahoo.com (Teak Billard) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050528010429.61034.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Would Fedora Extras be the place to have Mono available then or another repository such as Dag? Teak --- Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 05:16:19PM -0700, Teak > Billard wrote: > > Hello: > > > > I think the Mono stack has to be added to Fedora > Core > > 5. I've been trying out their Mono Live CD > > and it's great. > > F-Spot/Beagle/Blam/Tomboy are all applications I > would > > like to use more often, outside of the few times > I've > > loaded up the mono live cd. > > > > I know that Red Hat has legal concerns over > .NET/C# > > but if that isn't the case with Fedora then > Fedora > > should go ahead and include Mono. > > It is the case with Fedora also. This has been > beaten > to death on the list numerous times. > > > I'm also talking about an inotify enabled kernel. > > Not until its accepted upstream. > > Dave > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bwbees0 at charter.net Sat May 28 01:16:04 2005 From: bwbees0 at charter.net (Ben Beeson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:16:04 -0700 Subject: Serial mouse problems with Fedora Core 4 Test 2 Message-ID: <1117242964.7725.21.camel@valinux.localhost.localdomain> Aloha again, On the friendly advice of another, this is reposted here as a more likely place to find help. Sorry for the inconvenience. Ben Aloha list, I have installed Fedora Core 4 Test 2 on a spare box that I will eventually be using for a firewall+router. Right now it is a test box for the new FC4 release. This box has had RH7.2 and RH 9 on it in the past and the mouse worked fine with those installs. I am having trouble getting FC4 to recognize and use the mouse, and this is a new problem. I have tried just about every combination available in system-config-mouse to no avail. Many combinations error out with an error something like 'inputattach: cannot set line discipline'. Other combos do not error out and mouse services appear to start OK, but the cursor on the screen (text screens and X) does not respond to the mouse. The mouse is a two button Logitech First Mouse P/N 811327-00. I have also tried a Logitech MX 310 USB/PS2 mouse and that one doesn't work here either although the MX 310 mouse is working quite well on my FC2 system that I am writing this note from. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Mahalos in advance, Ben From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat May 28 01:29:26 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:29:26 -0400 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <20050528010429.61034.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050528010429.61034.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1117243766.19135.6.camel@cutter> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:04 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > Would Fedora Extras be the place to have Mono > available then or another repository such as Dag? fedora extras is under the same legal restrictions as fedora core. -sv From teamwassily at yahoo.com Sat May 28 02:02:31 2005 From: teamwassily at yahoo.com (Teak Billard) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050528020231.44327.qmail@web31409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> So the situation is that a company like Novell has the money to deal with any lawsuits that could arise because of Mono, but Red Hat can't risk it? Is there a serious effort on Red Hat's part to deal with the issues surrounding Mono or have they given up for the meantime? Teak --- seth vidal wrote: > On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:04 -0700, Teak Billard > wrote: > > Would Fedora Extras be the place to have Mono > > available then or another repository such as Dag? > > fedora extras is under the same legal restrictions > as fedora core. > > -sv > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat May 28 02:12:07 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:12:07 -0400 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <20050528020231.44327.qmail@web31409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050528020231.44327.qmail@web31409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1117246327.19135.8.camel@cutter> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 19:02 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > So the situation is that a company like Novell has the > money to deal with any lawsuits that could arise > because of Mono, but Red Hat can't risk it? > > Is there a serious effort on Red Hat's part to deal > with the issues surrounding Mono or have they given up > for the meantime? read the archives for fedora-devel-list and havoc pennington's blog. This has all been discussed before. thanks! -sv From chandana at desilva.id.au Sat May 28 03:27:45 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 13:27:45 +1000 Subject: Xserver Permission Problem Message-ID: <1117250865.2724.10.camel@chandana.dis> I am running FC4T3 on my desk top, and FC2 on two other computers. When I ssh into one of the FC2 computers from the FC4 and try to run any gui app (eg:xclock), I get the message : "Error: Can't open display:" I then try to specifically set the DISPLAY and still get the same message: [chandana at tarzan chandana]$ export DISPLAY=10.10.10.11:0.0 [chandana at tarzan chandana]$ xclock Error: Can't open display: 10.10.10.11:0.0 This works fine (without even bothering to set the DISPLAY) from the other FC2 computer. Is there some permission setting on the FC4 that is different ? Chandana From chandana at desilva.id.au Sat May 28 03:39:40 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 13:39:40 +1000 Subject: Acrobat 7 does not run in FC4 3.92 In-Reply-To: <1116664370.31259.18.camel@chandana.dis> References: <1116664370.31259.18.camel@chandana.dis> Message-ID: <1117251581.2724.19.camel@chandana.dis> All, Many thanks to every one who replied this. Installing compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-47.fc4 fixed the problem. On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 07:14 +1000, Chandana De Silva wrote: > I have just discovered that Acrobat Reader 7 does not run. It does not > give an error message, but simply exits. > > This is the binary version (tar.gz). The rpm version cannot be installed > because of missing dependencies. > root at chandana other]# rpm -ivh AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386.rpm > error: Failed dependencies: > libstdc++.so.5 is needed by AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) is needed by > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by > AdobeReader_enu-7.0.0-2.i386 > > Is there a set of compatibility that can be installed to resolve this ? > > Chandana From teamwassily at yahoo.com Sat May 28 04:17:39 2005 From: teamwassily at yahoo.com (Teak Billard) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Xserver Permission Problem In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050528041739.49177.qmail@web31415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Have you tried ssh -X ? I had to do this in my switch from FC2 to FC3. Teak --- Chandana De Silva wrote: > I am running FC4T3 on my desk top, and FC2 on two > other computers. > > When I ssh into one of the FC2 computers from the > FC4 and try to run any > gui app (eg:xclock), I get the message : > "Error: Can't open display:" > > I then try to specifically set the DISPLAY and still > get the same > message: > [chandana at tarzan chandana]$ export > DISPLAY=10.10.10.11:0.0 > [chandana at tarzan chandana]$ xclock > Error: Can't open display: 10.10.10.11:0.0 > > This works fine (without even bothering to set the > DISPLAY) from the > other FC2 computer. > > Is there some permission setting on the FC4 that is > different ? > > Chandana > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From pinball at litz.org Sat May 28 05:46:22 2005 From: pinball at litz.org (Jonathan Deitch) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 01:46:22 -0400 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <4297A559.2020601@litz.org> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> <200505262348.10393.linxt@comcast.net> <4297A559.2020601@litz.org> Message-ID: <429805AE.7010608@litz.org> Ok, followup ... I've installed from scratch, selecting "server", and allowing all defaults, both FC3 and FC4T3. Stock, off the CDs, both fail in SMP mode on my motherboard. After installing all available upgrades via "yum upgrade", both still fail ... even the much vaunted new 1363 kernel for 4T3. FC3 simply does the same thing (all IO ceases the second the kernel inits, so once login arrives it's dead) FC4T3 sees 3 out of 4 cpus (3 penguins) and instantly reboots. Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots right into smp, no problems whatsoever. - JD Jonathan Deitch wrote: > > Intel SE7501CW2 dual 1.8 xeon, 512mb memory, IDE hdd w/two 3ware raid > cards for mass storage ... it's a "normal" fc4t3 installation, with > all available yum updates installed. > > It flat out refuses to boot to smp - freezes the instant a login > prompt appears whether in single mode, normal multiuser, or X. > > I've backtracked kernels all the way to old FC3 kernels, same thing ... > > - litz > > Thomas Taylor wrote: > >> On Thursday 26 May 2005 19:18, Jonathan Deitch wrote: >> >> >>> Where do your processes hang? >>> >>> I can't get mine to allow a login : it boots to a login prompt and >>> freezes ... doesn't matter if I'm in runlevel 1, 3 or 5 ... >>> >>> It's done this with any FC3 or 4 kernel I've tried ... >>> >>> If your 1276 is working, what kernel parameters are you passing? >>> >>> - litz >>> >>> Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >>> >>> >>>> 1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang >>>> and had to regress to kernel 1276. >>>> >>> >> >> Please supply a bit more information about your system (M/B >> make/model, cpu, memory, components). >> >> I've used 1303, 1305 and 1312 smp kernels with no problems. Have a >> gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P w/athlon 2800MP cpus, 2GB ram, nVidia geforce4 >> AGP and 2-120GB WD SCSI drives under an Adaptec ASC-29160 >> controller. Everything runs great right from installation. >> >> Tom >> >> >> > From tony at tgds.net Sat May 28 07:18:01 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:18:01 +0200 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E879E@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B0064E879E@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <1117264681.2608.67.camel@hush> > Why FC2? It is end of life. Why not wait a couple of weeks and use > FC4? One reason for not using FC4 is if you are using VIA EPIA M and need DRM for MPEG2 acceleration. One reason for not using FC3 is that udev is "a work in progress" and DVB and lirc are tough to get working from FC supplied kernels. I can not compile a stock kernel.org kernel on FC4 without funky errors. Tony From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat May 28 08:15:44 2005 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:15:44 +0200 Subject: Xserver Permission Problem In-Reply-To: <20050528041739.49177.qmail@web31415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050528041739.49177.qmail@web31415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <429828B0.9000603@gmx.de> Teak Billard wrote: >Have you tried ssh -X > > if this should not work like expected try $ ssh -Y $ man ssh -Y Enables trusted X11 forwarding. -- shrek-m From kms at passback.co.uk Sat May 28 08:58:25 2005 From: kms at passback.co.uk (Keith Sharp) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:58:25 +0100 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <20050528001619.66207.qmail@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050528001619.66207.qmail@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1117270705.6474.6.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 17:16 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > Hello: > > I think the Mono stack has to be added to Fedora Core > 5. I've been trying out their Mono Live CD > and it's great. > F-Spot/Beagle/Blam/Tomboy are all applications I would > like to use more often, outside of the few times I've > loaded up the mono live cd. > > I know that Red Hat has legal concerns over .NET/C# > but if that isn't the case with Fedora then Fedora > should go ahead and include Mono. I'm also talking > about an inotify enabled kernel. I think the best plan would be to start a project similar to the JPackage Project [1] but for packaging Mono and its applications. I am sure I saw a mail or blog entry suggesting MPackage. Keith. [1] http://www.jpackage.org From vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net Sat May 28 10:12:35 2005 From: vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net (HGM.bg (GMX)) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:12:35 +0200 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 Message-ID: Hi I tried to compile a standard-kernel 2.6.11.11 on FC4T3 (updated right before the try) and get the following error. CHK usr/initramfs_list CC [M] drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.o In file included from drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c:31: include/linux/i2c.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element type include/linux/i2c.h:197: error: array type has incomplete element type make[3]: *** [drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [drivers/i2c/algos] Error 2 make[1]: *** [drivers/i2c] Error 2 make: *** [drivers] Error 2 It's very important that standard-kernel should compile on FC4.... /hgm.bg From tony at tgds.net Sat May 28 10:23:32 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:23:32 +0200 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117275812.2608.70.camel@hush> Le samedi 28 mai 2005 ? 12:12 +0200, HGM.bg (GMX) a ?crit : > I tried to compile a standard-kernel 2.6.11.11 on FC4T3 (updated right > before the try) and get the following error. > > CHK usr/initramfs_list > CC [M] drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.o > In file included from drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c:31: > include/linux/i2c.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element type > include/linux/i2c.h:197: error: array type has incomplete element type > make[3]: *** [drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.o] Error 1 > make[2]: *** [drivers/i2c/algos] Error 2 > make[1]: *** [drivers/i2c] Error 2 > make: *** [drivers] Error 2 > > It's very important that standard-kernel should compile on FC4.... Welcome to the club! =:-D Tony From arjanv at redhat.com Sat May 28 10:41:01 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:41:01 +0200 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117276862.6277.12.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 12:12 +0200, HGM.bg (GMX) wrote: > Hi > > I tried to compile a standard-kernel 2.6.11.11 on FC4T3 (updated right > before the try) and get the following error. > > CHK usr/initramfs_list > CC [M] drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.o > In file included from drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c:31: > include/linux/i2c.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element type > include/linux/i2c.h:197: error: array type has incomplete element type > make[3]: *** [drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.o] Error 1 > make[2]: *** [drivers/i2c/algos] Error 2 > make[1]: *** [drivers/i2c] Error 2 > make: *** [drivers] Error 2 > > It's very important that standard-kernel should compile on FC4.... so by all means send patches to kernel.org to make it compile with gcc 4.0 in your configuration.. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If so, it was last built on March 16th and may suffer from run-time incompatibilities, which might be fixed with a rebuild. The updates in CVS fail to build currently, however. That's tracked in bugzilla. From alan at redhat.com Sat May 28 11:28:17 2005 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:28:17 -0400 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050528112817.GD1344@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 12:12:35PM +0200, HGM.bg (GMX) wrote: > In file included from drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c:31: > include/linux/i2c.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element type > include/linux/i2c.h:197: error: array type has incomplete element type > > It's very important that standard-kernel should compile on FC4.... Its a bug in the base kernel. gcc 4 is just spotting a long standing error in the code that previous compilers missed. This is a known problem in the 2.6.11 base kernels but isn't considered security critical so hasn't been fixed in 2.6.11.x yet From buildsys at redhat.com Sat May 28 11:38:59 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:38:59 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050528 changes Message-ID: <200505281138.j4SBcxOa032276@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: alsa-lib-1.0.9rc4-2 ------------------- * Fri May 27 2005 Martin Stransky 1.0.9rc4-2 - alsacard utility for s-c-s gnome-applets-1:2.10.1-9 ------------------------ * Fri May 27 2005 Bill Nottingham 1:2.10.1-9 - remove setuid bit from cpufreq-selector, usermode-ify it gnu-crypto-0:2.0.1-1jpp_5fc --------------------------- * Thu May 26 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:2.0.1-1jpp_5fc - Separate post and postun lines. - Require libgcj, not gcc-java. isdn4k-utils-3.2-28 ------------------- * Fri May 27 2005 Bill Nottingham 3.2-28 - remove setuid bit from vboxbeep jessie-0:1.0.0-8 ---------------- * Thu May 26 2005 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.0.0-8 - Require libgcj. - Separate post and postun requirement lines. - Specify gnu-crypto jar directly. nfs-utils-1.0.7-8 ----------------- * Thu May 26 2005 Steve Dickson 1.0.7-8 - Fixed subscripting problem in idmapd (bz 158188) screen-4.0.2-9 -------------- * Fri May 27 2005 Bill Nottingham - 4.0.2-9 - don't use utmp group for socket dir; use a dedicated screen gid system-config-netboot-0.1.16-1_FC3 ---------------------------------- * Thu May 26 2005 Jason Vas Dias 0.1.16-1 - fix bugs 144240, 148022, 149000, 153047, 154982 From russell at coker.com.au Sat May 28 12:01:13 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:01:13 +1000 Subject: strange pump error on kickstart Message-ID: <200505282201.16414.russell@coker.com.au> I have some Toshiba laptops that I like to install via the built-in Ethernet interface with kickstart. I use the boot options "ks text". The first time I do it things work fine, but when I try it a second time pump acts as if it isn't receiving the packet. tcpdump on the dhcp server (a Debian machine running DHCPv3) shows the correct packets going out. When I complete an install and run pump I can't reproduce the problem. Any ideas as to what I should test next? -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From russell at coker.com.au Sat May 28 12:17:39 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:17:39 +1000 Subject: strange pump error on kickstart In-Reply-To: <200505282201.16414.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200505282201.16414.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <200505282217.42313.russell@coker.com.au> On Saturday 28 May 2005 22:01, Russell Coker wrote: > I have some Toshiba laptops that I like to install via the built-in > Ethernet interface with kickstart. > > I use the boot options "ks text". The first time I do it things work fine, > but when I try it a second time pump acts as if it isn't receiving the > packet. tcpdump on the dhcp server (a Debian machine running DHCPv3) shows > the correct packets going out. > > When I complete an install and run pump I can't reproduce the problem. > > Any ideas as to what I should test next? I've attached the relevant tcpdump output. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bootp-cap.gz Type: application/x-gzip Size: 462 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ba at linuxin.dk Sat May 28 12:59:21 2005 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:59:21 +0200 Subject: Rythmbox better than ever! Message-ID: <1117285161.4545.3.camel@Mars> Wow, first time EVER that i was able to import over 8000 mp3 and ogg files in one import. In FC3, 2 and Ubuntu (latest), Rhythmbox freezes within 5 min. Great job. From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat May 28 13:49:54 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:49:54 -0400 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <429805AE.7010608@litz.org> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> <200505262348.10393.linxt@comcast.net> <4297A559.2020601@litz.org> <429805AE.7010608@litz.org> Message-ID: <604aa79105052806491af11962@mail.gmail.com> On 5/28/05, Jonathan Deitch wrote: > Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of > Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots > right into smp, no problems whatsoever. what kernel version is that knoppix cd using? Your issue seems rather 'special' since its happening for both fc3 and the rawhide kernels. Was a bug filed against fc3 at some point about this? -jef"seems to have the only bulletproof smp box around"spaleta From russell at coker.com.au Sat May 28 13:51:00 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:51:00 +1000 Subject: strange pump error on kickstart In-Reply-To: <200505282201.16414.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200505282201.16414.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <200505282351.03347.russell@coker.com.au> On Saturday 28 May 2005 22:01, Russell Coker wrote: > I have some Toshiba laptops that I like to install via the built-in > Ethernet interface with kickstart. I now think that my problems are caused by bad hardware. Sorry to bother everyone. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From byte at aeon.com.my Sat May 28 13:55:41 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:55:41 +1000 Subject: Perl, CPAN, and failures... Message-ID: <1117288541.3559.45.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> So, I was going to push this to fedora-perl-devel-lust, but the warning scared me away Anyways, doing: sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Finance::YahooQuote"' allows a test in Finance::YahooQuote to fail, having it not install unless I force it Where do I bug report such a thing? Any perl heads know whats going on? Running make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/01base........ok t/02simple......FAILED test 1 Failed 1/2 tests, 50.00% okay t/03extended....ok t/04custom......ok t/05test........ok I'm trying to run an app that requires this, and I'm now trying very hard not to set aside some time and rewrite it in Python Regards -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat May 28 14:00:50 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:00:50 -0400 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <1117270705.6474.6.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> References: <20050528001619.66207.qmail@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1117270705.6474.6.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> Message-ID: <1117288850.19135.43.camel@cutter> > I think the best plan would be to start a project similar to the > JPackage Project [1] but for packaging Mono and its applications. I am > sure I saw a mail or blog entry suggesting MPackage. > you did see that in a blog. Colin Charles' blog. It's not a bad idea. -sv From bartk at clara.co.uk Sat May 28 14:06:06 2005 From: bartk at clara.co.uk (Bart Kalita) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 15:06:06 +0100 Subject: Runing Amarok In-Reply-To: <20050528130225.40f7f499.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <1117218350.3015.3.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> <20050528130225.40f7f499.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <1117289167.4730.3.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 13:02 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: ... > Do you refer to Amarok as supplied in Fedora Extras Development? If so, > it was last built on March 16th and may suffer from run-time > incompatibilities, which might be fixed with a rebuild. The updates in CVS > fail to build currently, however. That's tracked in bugzilla. > thats what I've got when rebuilding rpmbuild --rebuild amarok-1.2.4-1.fc3.src.rpm ...... checking whether gcc is blacklisted... yes configure: error: This particular compiler version is blacklisted because it is known to miscompile KDE. Please use a newer version, or if that is not yet available, choose an older version. Please do not report a bug or bother us reporting this configure error. We know about it, and we introduced it by intention to avoid untraceable bugs or crashes in KDE. error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.14807 (%build) same error pops up when building from source I wonder if there is a point in sending backtrace to Amorok peeps -- _________________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux User #347493 Fedora Core Rawhide www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.net From byte at aeon.com.my Sat May 28 14:05:21 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:05:21 +1000 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <1117270705.6474.6.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> References: <20050528001619.66207.qmail@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1117270705.6474.6.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> Message-ID: <1117289121.3559.48.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 09:58 +0100, Keith Sharp wrote: > I think the best plan would be to start a project similar to the > JPackage Project [1] but for packaging Mono and its applications. I > am > sure I saw a mail or blog entry suggesting MPackage. Yes, interested? Send me e-mail. -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From mricon at gmail.com Sat May 28 14:10:32 2005 From: mricon at gmail.com (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:10:32 -0400 Subject: Perl, CPAN, and failures... In-Reply-To: <1117288541.3559.45.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> References: <1117288541.3559.45.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> Message-ID: On 5/28/05, Colin Charles wrote: > So, I was going to push this to fedora-perl-devel-lust, but the warning > scared me away I'm being way offtopic here, but I got highly amused by the "list/lust" typo. The phrase carries so much deep meaning in the new rendition. :D Cheers, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev Zlotniks, INC "???????? ?????????? ????? ? ??????? ???? ?????." From herrold at owlriver.com Sat May 28 14:13:44 2005 From: herrold at owlriver.com (R P Herrold) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: fedora-t] Perl, CPAN, and failures... In-Reply-To: <1117288541.3559.45.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> References: <1117288541.3559.45.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 28 May 2005, Colin Charles wrote: > So, I was going to push this to fedora-perl-devel-lust, but the warning > scared me away > > Anyways, doing: > sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Finance::YahooQuote"' > > allows a test in Finance::YahooQuote to fail, having it not install > unless I force it I package this as it is a dependency of 'smtm' -- it builds as non-root, and installs conventionally ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/local/ORC/smtm/ - Russ Herrold From MWeiner at ag.com Sat May 28 14:44:32 2005 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:44:32 -0400 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B005117A8C@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> On Friday 27 May 2005 02:51 pm, Dave Jones wrote: > What happens when yum gets to installing udev, and sees it deprecates > MAKEDEV and friends, and your /dev goes away ? It works. Just make sure you're running a 2.6 kernel and have FC3 initscripts installed and /sys/ mounted before installing the udev RPM. However, the thread originator is migrating RH7.3->FC2 and shouldn't need to worry about udev. Instead he'll probably need to install (not upgrade) the FC2 db4 so that RPM migration works. He can remove the old db4 after the upgrade. If he's using 3c905's he may have to chkconfig kudzu off as FC2 kudzu tended to lock them up, which is a pain when your datacenter is a thousand miles away. If he originally configured his network with linuxconf he may have to munge the configs in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts before they'll work in FC2. Disable IPV6 modules for best performance. Change /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice if using X. Move router configs from zebra to quagga. I also have a note about having to merge dummies on boxes with many IP addresses. Don't recall the details. Maybe dummy1 stopped working. I'd advise skipping FC1. I've upgraded several RH8->FC2 and RH9->FC2 without problems. Wish FC3->U5.04 were as easy. Never tried RH7.3->FC2. --- Thanks for the response Mike. The boxen/hardware in question simply provides shell, python/perl, mail and web services - these are pretty slimmed down installs, but i appreciate the db4 tip - i believe i actually ran into that issue trying to manually upgrade an rh73 box to fc2. I did the following: 1) updated the redhat-release to fedora-release for fc1 2) attempted yum (checked yum's config at this point and repo's config info) this required an RPM upgrade 3) attempted to update RPM and ran into many dependency issues Note: i now have a basically useless rh73 box, LOL, good thing its a development "throw away" I suppose i could dig up a rescue disk and fix it. so obviously something in my chaotic "upgrading" messed something up on the box. But thats the general idea - and i gather that same basic information from most google results on doing a yum update from rhX to fcX. Does your experience lend itself to possibly providing me with some pointers, or in this case "missed items" ? Thanks again to *all* for *all* the input, this has been an interesting thread. Michael Weiner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I like to use "standard"-kernel for the cvs DVB drivers. But thanks for that info (not satisfying mit informative) :) /hgm.bg From mattdm at mattdm.org Sat May 28 15:22:20 2005 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:22:20 -0400 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <200505281457.j4SEvxcJ031538@mx1.redhat.com> References: <20050528112817.GD1344@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200505281457.j4SEvxcJ031538@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050528152220.GA15499@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 03:57:54PM +0200, HGM.bg (GMX) wrote: > Does this mean that 2.6.12x kernels will compile ? I like to use > "standard"-kernel for the cvs DVB drivers. Note that the Fedora Core "kernel mission statement" is to make the FC kernel match "standard" as closely as possible. Pretty much all of the changes there are going to go in to the next "standard" release. See: -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> Current office temperature: 81 degrees Fahrenheit. From seanfedora at gmail.com Sat May 28 15:37:03 2005 From: seanfedora at gmail.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:37:03 -0700 Subject: Default Firefox icons are not... the default Firefox icons. Message-ID: Has anyone noticed that the default Firefox toolbar icons (which Themes SAYS is the default Firefox 2.0 Theme set) is definitely NOT the default theme set? The icons in the current Rawhide firefox are plug-ugly, and do not match the default firefox icons that are present on my Windows box, my Mac, and FC2 (those all match each other). I'm not sure what these icons are, but they need to be replaced by the correct default firefox icons! Currently sitting as: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=138986 which was reported last November and has not had a developer reply yet. Just curious if I am the only one experiencing the problem. Thanks, -Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgb-fedora at yosemite.net Sat May 28 15:56:20 2005 From: mgb-fedora at yosemite.net (Mike Bird) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:56:20 -0700 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B005117A8C@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B005117A8C@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <1117295779.10321.20.camel@mgb.bullion.ims> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 07:44, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > Does your experience lend itself to possibly providing me with some > pointers, or in this case "missed items" ? Sorry, that's all I recall right now. It's been a while since I upgraded any RHn->FC2. If you run into particular problems you're welcome to drop me a line - you might jog my memory. --Mike Bird From mwiktowy at gmx.net Sat May 28 16:18:05 2005 From: mwiktowy at gmx.net (Michael Wiktowy) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:18:05 -0400 Subject: Rythmbox better than ever! In-Reply-To: <1117285161.4545.3.camel@Mars> References: <1117285161.4545.3.camel@Mars> Message-ID: <1117297085.4751.4.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 14:59 +0200, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > Wow, first time EVER that i was able to import over 8000 mp3 and ogg > files in one import. > In FC3, 2 and Ubuntu (latest), Rhythmbox freezes within 5 min. > > > Great job. > I had similar problems with Rhythmbox freezing when looking for files. It turned out that it had troubles on certain small jpg files and other non-media files. Once I moved the problem files (identified by running rhythmbom in a terminal in verbose mode) out of the search directories, this were fine with me. I am glad to hear this problem was properly solved though :] /Mike From WormLineFiles at gmx.de Sat May 28 16:16:48 2005 From: WormLineFiles at gmx.de (Simon Lanzmich) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:16:48 +0200 Subject: Default Firefox icons are not... the default Firefox icons. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117297008.3356.13.camel@simon.home> Am Samstag, den 28.05.2005, 08:37 -0700 schrieb Sean Earp: > Has anyone noticed that the default Firefox toolbar icons > (which Themes SAYS is the default Firefox 2.0 Theme set) is > definitely NOT the default theme set? The icons in the > current Rawhide firefox are plug-ugly, and do not match the > default firefox icons that are present on my Windows box, > my Mac, and FC2 (those all match each other). I'm not sure > what these icons are, but they need to be replaced by the > correct default firefox icons! Hi, what you describe seems to be a feature, since rawhide firefox uses icons from your gnome theme. This is imho a great improvement, because the look and feel is now a lot more consistent. To have other icons, you may install another firefox theme or change / modify your gtk-theme. You could also try to pick the default theme from the original firefox package, but I'm not sure whether this works. Though, I agree with you that it may be confusing to call the theme 'Firefox (default) 2.0'. Simon From taquitos at gmail.com Sat May 28 18:14:55 2005 From: taquitos at gmail.com (Joshua Liebowitz) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:14:55 -0400 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <20050528160020.A219D7333A@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050528160020.A219D7333A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: >> In file included from drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c:31: >> include/linux/i2c.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element type >> include/linux/i2c.h:197: error: array type has incomplete element >> type >> It's very important that standard-kernel should compile on FC4.... > > Its a bug in the base kernel. gcc 4 is just spotting a long standing > error in the code that previous compilers missed. This is a known > problem in the > 2.6.11 base kernels but isn't considered security critical so hasn't > been fixed in 2.6.11.x yet I had the exact same type of problem in FC4T2, I googled it and found it to be pretty common. The solution is to replace your version of i2c.h with a modified one that has proper function defs. Once I replaced it, I was able to compile my new kernels. Give me some time and I will look for it again. -Joshua Liebowitz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blackman at pharm.uoa.gr Sat May 28 18:36:40 2005 From: blackman at pharm.uoa.gr (blackman at pharm.uoa.gr) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:36:40 +0300 Subject: FC4_64 : Grub Is not Working on Dual boot Message-ID: <1117305400.4298ba380d2ce@webmail.uoa.gr> installing Fc4_64 on hda2 and having Windows on hda1 grub on first boot comes to minimal bash like command line without the expected options (fedora, other). Please since this is the rc3 and there will be no other rc until the final version on june 6 take the time to test this bug!!! also seems that grub is not installing on MBR even when booting on rescue mode and try to grub-install /dev/hda From mpeters at mac.com Sat May 28 18:51:18 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:51:18 -0700 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 In-Reply-To: References: <20050528160020.A219D7333A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117306279.6112.3.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> > >> In file included from drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c:31: > >> include/linux/i2c.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element > type > >> include/linux/i2c.h:197: error: array type has incomplete element > >> type > >> It's very important that standard-kernel should compile on FC4.... If you read the kernel documentation, it specifies what versions of gcc the kernel should compile with. gcc4 isn't specified as one of them. If the standard kernel fails to be compile with the version of gcc they specify - then there is a problem. Been awhile since I compiled my own kernel, but when I did - I always install the c compiler component of gcc 2.95.3 just for that purpose. I don't know if that is still the specified compiler or not. Fedora/Redhat typically (always??) uses the default C compiler, but they also patch the kernel code. From arjanv at redhat.com Sat May 28 19:01:37 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:01:37 +0200 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 In-Reply-To: <1117306279.6112.3.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> References: <20050528160020.A219D7333A@hormel.redhat.com> <1117306279.6112.3.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> Message-ID: <1117306898.6277.21.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 11:51 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > >> In file included from drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c:31: > > >> include/linux/i2c.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element > > type > > >> include/linux/i2c.h:197: error: array type has incomplete element > > >> type > > >> It's very important that standard-kernel should compile on FC4.... > > If you read the kernel documentation, it specifies what versions of gcc > the kernel should compile with. gcc4 isn't specified as one of them. it actually specifies a *minimum* compiler version. > > Been awhile since I compiled my own kernel, but when I did - I always > install the c compiler component of gcc 2.95.3 just for that purpose. I > don't know if that is still the specified compiler or not. 2.95.3 is rather known buggy in places and while the kernel at times puts in workarounds, I certainly wouldn't recommend it for kernel use. > > Fedora/Redhat typically (always??) uses the default C compiler, but they > also patch the kernel code. ... but basically not for compiler stuff. The kernel people (me included) try really hard to make the kernel always work well with recent gcc's, often before said gcc versions even get officially released. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks for this statement, i won't like the idea of having an old compiler just for building the kernel :) >> Fedora/Redhat typically (always??) uses the default C compiler, but >> they also patch the kernel code. > > ... but basically not for compiler stuff. The kernel people (me > included) try really hard to make the kernel always work well with > recent gcc's, often before said gcc versions even get officially > released. That's good to hear but it seems to me that at the i2c stuff there is still some work to be done.... /hgm.bg From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat May 28 20:37:20 2005 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:37:20 +0200 Subject: Runing Amarok In-Reply-To: <1117289167.4730.3.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> References: <1117218350.3015.3.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> <20050528130225.40f7f499.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1117289167.4730.3.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> Message-ID: <20050528223720.654d2325.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 28 May 2005 15:06:06 +0100, Bart Kalita wrote: > On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 13:02 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > ... > > Do you refer to Amarok as supplied in Fedora Extras Development? If so, > > it was last built on March 16th and may suffer from run-time > > incompatibilities, which might be fixed with a rebuild. The updates in CVS > > fail to build currently, however. That's tracked in bugzilla. > > > > thats what I've got when rebuilding > > rpmbuild --rebuild amarok-1.2.4-1.fc3.src.rpm > > ...... > > checking whether gcc is blacklisted... yes > configure: error: > > This particular compiler version is blacklisted because it > is known to miscompile KDE. Please use a newer version, or > if that is not yet available, choose an older version. > > Please do not report a bug or bother us reporting this > configure error. We know about it, and we introduced > it by intention to avoid untraceable bugs or crashes in KDE. Such a pure version-based compiler check is bad, since Red Hat's gcc packages usually are patched with a lot of fixes. Just have a brief look at "rpm --query --changelog gcc". You need to take out the version check before you can build Amarok. From ba at linuxin.dk Sat May 28 21:17:04 2005 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:17:04 +0200 Subject: NeroLinux isn't working In-Reply-To: <1117040091.3400.3.camel@Mars> References: <1117040091.3400.3.camel@Mars> Message-ID: <1117315024.5285.1.camel@Mars> Hmm, latest update for FC4 did it. Now Nero works perfectly (until a native Gnome burning app arrives)... > Does anyone knows how to get it working? It "segfaults". > Some older compat* libs maby? > -- Regards/Hilsen Bjorn Andersen From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat May 28 21:42:31 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:42:31 +0200 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <1117243766.19135.6.camel@cutter> References: <20050528010429.61034.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1117243766.19135.6.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <1117316550.3355.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> l?r, 28.05.2005 kl. 03.29 skrev seth vidal: > On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:04 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > > Would Fedora Extras be the place to have Mono > > available then or another repository such as Dag? > > fedora extras is under the same legal restrictions as fedora core. > > -sv > Hmm.. What about some "semi-official" repo like livna, but with mono-stuff (Mpackage?) Kyrre From akonstam at trinity.edu Sat May 28 22:08:43 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:08:43 -0500 Subject: FC4_64 : Grub Is not Working on Dual boot In-Reply-To: <1117305400.4298ba380d2ce@webmail.uoa.gr> References: <1117305400.4298ba380d2ce@webmail.uoa.gr> Message-ID: <20050528220843.GA8754@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 09:36:40PM +0300, blackman at pharm.uoa.gr wrote: > installing Fc4_64 on hda2 and having Windows on hda1 grub on first boot comes to > minimal bash like command line without the expected options (fedora, other). > Please since this is the rc3 and there will be no other rc until the final > version on june 6 take the time to test this bug!!! > also seems that grub is not installing on MBR even when booting on rescue mode > and try to > grub-install /dev/hda > I am not sure what you are saying is happening. In FC4test3 (as well as FC3) upon booting only the default boot choice is shown on the screen and you are given 3 seconds or so to allow it to boot that operating system of hit return to see the full range of operating system choices. Is that what you are seeing? And as I have said many times on the list grub-install is a kludge because it often does not install the boot block correctly. Boot rescue mode, chroot to root file system and install grub by the following sequence of commands. grub grub> root (hd0,2) <-- the 2 depends on where you linux is. grub> setup (hd0) grub> quit That always works for me when grub-install does not. -- ======================================================================= The universe is ruled by letting things take their course. It cannot be ruled by interfering. -- Chinese proverb ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University telephone: (210)-999-7484 From lamune at doki-doki.net Sat May 28 22:34:29 2005 From: lamune at doki-doki.net (Mike Pepe) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:34:29 -0400 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <429805AE.7010608@litz.org> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> <200505262348.10393.linxt@comcast.net> <4297A559.2020601@litz.org> <429805AE.7010608@litz.org> Message-ID: <4298F1F5.6000206@doki-doki.net> Jonathan Deitch wrote: > > Ok, followup ... > > I've installed from scratch, selecting "server", and allowing all > defaults, both FC3 and FC4T3. > > Stock, off the CDs, both fail in SMP mode on my motherboard. After > installing all available upgrades via "yum upgrade", both still fail ... > even the much vaunted new 1363 kernel for 4T3. > > FC3 simply does the same thing (all IO ceases the second the kernel > inits, so once login arrives it's dead) > > FC4T3 sees 3 out of 4 cpus (3 penguins) and instantly reboots. > > Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of > Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots > right into smp, no problems whatsoever. > > - JD > I've got a bunch of SMP boxes running FC3 and FC4T3. Not all SMP boxes are created equal. I've got a pair of Intel quad P3 Xeon boxes... they work fine, no special stuff needed. I've got 4 dual P3-1000 machines (Gigabyte motherboards) These things suck. Unless you append acpi=off to the kernel boot string, they randomly reboot, hang, freeze, etc. And a Compaq DL380, won't run single or dual cpu correctly unless acpi=off is appended to the boot options. Try turning off acpi, that seems to fix lots of smp issues for me. From pinball at litz.org Sun May 29 00:11:52 2005 From: pinball at litz.org (Jonathan Deitch) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 20:11:52 -0400 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <604aa79105052806491af11962@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> <200505262348.10393.linxt@comcast.net> <4297A559.2020601@litz.org> <429805AE.7010608@litz.org> <604aa79105052806491af11962@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <429908C8.4010306@litz.org> Knoppix 3.82 uses kernel 2.6.11 ... I opened a bugzilla for the FC4T3 problem (#159057) but have not opened one for FC3 yet, as I blew away the FC3 install to try a virgin FC4T3 install ... gotta go back and double verify the problem before I go open bugzilla for that. The weird thing is, the boot process DOES complete - but you have no IO ... only thing I can guess is it's something that isn't interacting with the Intel serverboard chipset properly. If anyone has ideas on things to test, anything please let me know and I'll give it a whirl. - JD Jeff Spaleta wrote: >On 5/28/05, Jonathan Deitch wrote: > > >>Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of >>Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots >>right into smp, no problems whatsoever. >> >> > >what kernel version is that knoppix cd using? >Your issue seems rather 'special' since its happening for both fc3 and >the rawhide kernels. >Was a bug filed against fc3 at some point about this? > > >-jef"seems to have the only bulletproof smp box around"spaleta > > > From pinball at litz.org Sun May 29 00:13:24 2005 From: pinball at litz.org (Jonathan Deitch) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 20:13:24 -0400 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <4298F1F5.6000206@doki-doki.net> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> <200505262348.10393.linxt@comcast.net> <4297A559.2020601@litz.org> <429805AE.7010608@litz.org> <4298F1F5.6000206@doki-doki.net> Message-ID: <42990924.20201@litz.org> Mike, I've already tried acpi=off, apm=off, noapic, and vdso=0, none have had any effect ... - Jonathan Mike Pepe wrote: > > > Jonathan Deitch wrote: > >> >> Ok, followup ... >> >> I've installed from scratch, selecting "server", and allowing all >> defaults, both FC3 and FC4T3. >> >> Stock, off the CDs, both fail in SMP mode on my motherboard. After >> installing all available upgrades via "yum upgrade", both still fail >> ... even the much vaunted new 1363 kernel for 4T3. >> >> FC3 simply does the same thing (all IO ceases the second the kernel >> inits, so once login arrives it's dead) >> >> FC4T3 sees 3 out of 4 cpus (3 penguins) and instantly reboots. >> >> Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor >> of Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix >> boots right into smp, no problems whatsoever. >> >> - JD >> > > I've got a bunch of SMP boxes running FC3 and FC4T3. Not all SMP boxes > are created equal. > > I've got a pair of Intel quad P3 Xeon boxes... they work fine, no > special stuff needed. > > I've got 4 dual P3-1000 machines (Gigabyte motherboards) These things > suck. Unless you append acpi=off to the kernel boot string, they > randomly reboot, hang, freeze, etc. > > And a Compaq DL380, won't run single or dual cpu correctly unless > acpi=off is appended to the boot options. > > Try turning off acpi, that seems to fix lots of smp issues for me. > From gstool at earthlink.net Sun May 29 00:30:04 2005 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 19:30:04 -0500 Subject: Cannot access windows shares Message-ID: <42990D0C.5050307@earthlink.net> I have a completely uptodate FC4T3 created from a fresh DVD install when it was first released. If I click on Computer > Network, I see two icons - one for the windows box named bjtpc on my LAN, and one for Windows Network. If I click on Windows Network, I see an icon for our workgroup, named tool. If I click on tool, I see another icon for bjtpc. If I click on either bjtpc icon, I get icons for that computer's C drive and SharedDocs folder. Clicking on the C drive share icon results in access to the folders. Clicking on the SharedDocs folder results in an "infinite" hourglass cursor. After the hourglass cursor begins, I cannot open any folders in the C Drive share. It claims to be opening them, but nothing happens. Logging out/in restores access to the C drive, but as soon as I click on the SharedDocs folder, I can no longer access the C drive folder. Clicking on the C drive folder then results in an "infinite" hourglass, also. Having SELinux permissive or enforcing makes no difference. This operation all works correctly in Fedora Core 3 and in Ubuntu 5.04. In Fedora Core 3, when accessing the first share, an Unlock Keyring dialog appears into which I enter my password and then access to the share is available. No such dialog is presented in FC4t3. Anyone else seeing this, or does anyone have a clue on how to successfully access the SharedDocs folder in FC4? Thanks. Gerry Tool From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun May 29 02:32:06 2005 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:32:06 -0400 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <1117316550.3355.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050528010429.61034.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1117243766.19135.6.camel@cutter> <1117316550.3355.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1117333926.2499.4.camel@cutter> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 23:42 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > l?r, 28.05.2005 kl. 03.29 skrev seth vidal: > > On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:04 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > > > Would Fedora Extras be the place to have Mono > > > available then or another repository such as Dag? > > > > fedora extras is under the same legal restrictions as fedora core. > > > > -sv > > > > Hmm.. What about some "semi-official" repo like livna, but with > mono-stuff (Mpackage?) > That's up to the mgmt of livna to determine. -sv From pinball at litz.org Sun May 29 03:01:06 2005 From: pinball at litz.org (Jonathan Deitch) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:01:06 -0400 Subject: process hangs on 13xx smp kernels In-Reply-To: <429908C8.4010306@litz.org> References: <20050525031635.BA194735B8@hormel.redhat.com> <429671B7.9060104@garlic.com> <4296835F.1050907@litz.org> <200505262348.10393.linxt@comcast.net> <4297A559.2020601@litz.org> <429805AE.7010608@litz.org> <604aa79105052806491af11962@mail.gmail.com> <429908C8.4010306@litz.org> Message-ID: <42993072.9070001@litz.org> Bug has been changed to 159082 for this issue Jonathan Deitch wrote: > > Knoppix 3.82 uses kernel 2.6.11 ... > > I opened a bugzilla for the FC4T3 problem (#159057) but have not > opened one for FC3 yet, as I blew away the FC3 install to try a virgin > FC4T3 install ... gotta go back and double verify the problem before I > go open bugzilla for that. > > The weird thing is, the boot process DOES complete - but you have no > IO ... only thing I can guess is it's something that isn't interacting > with the Intel serverboard chipset properly. > > If anyone has ideas on things to test, anything please let me know and > I'll give it a whirl. > > - JD > > > Jeff Spaleta wrote: > >> On 5/28/05, Jonathan Deitch wrote: >> >> >>> Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of >>> Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots >>> right into smp, no problems whatsoever. >>> >> >> >> what kernel version is that knoppix cd using? >> Your issue seems rather 'special' since its happening for both fc3 and >> the rawhide kernels. >> Was a bug filed against fc3 at some point about this? >> >> >> -jef"seems to have the only bulletproof smp box around"spaleta >> >> >> > From dcasey at the-caseys.com Sun May 29 04:07:52 2005 From: dcasey at the-caseys.com (Don Casey) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:07:52 -0400 Subject: FC4_64 : Grub Is not Working on Dual boot In-Reply-To: <20050528220843.GA8754@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <20050529040754.1090A4C737@mx.the-caseys.com> > On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 09:36:40PM +0300, blackman at pharm.uoa.gr wrote: > > installing Fc4_64 on hda2 and having Windows on hda1 grub on first boot > comes to > > minimal bash like command line without the expected options (fedora, > other). > > Please since this is the rc3 and there will be no other rc until the > final > > version on june 6 take the time to test this bug!!! > > also seems that grub is not installing on MBR even when booting on > rescue mode > > and try to > > grub-install /dev/hda > > > I am not sure what you are saying is happening. In FC4test3 (as well > as FC3) upon booting only the default boot choice is shown on the > screen and you are given 3 seconds or so to allow it to boot that > operating system of hit return to see the full range of operating > system choices. Is that what you are seeing? > > And as I have said many times on the list grub-install is a kludge > because it often does not install the boot block correctly. > Boot rescue mode, chroot to root file system and install grub by the > following sequence of commands. > grub > grub> root (hd0,2) <-- the 2 depends on where you linux is. > grub> setup (hd0) > grub> quit > > That always works for me when grub-install does not. > I don't think that this would be something that is only particular to the 64bit kernel. Today I installed from scratch on one machine with a single 80GB SATA drive: W*ndows XP Profesional Fedora Core3 Fedora Core4t3 Drive is now partitioned as follows: /dev/sda1 NTFS 20480 /dev/sda2 /boot ext3 102 /dev/sda3 VolGroup00 LVM PV 20379 VolGroup00 LogVol00 / ext3 18368 LogVol01 swap 1952 /dev/sda4 Extended 35354 /dev/sda5 /boot ext3 102 /dev/sda6 VolGroup01 LVM PV 20379 VolGroup01 LogVol00 / ext3 18368 LogVol01 swap 1952 Remaining 15GB are unclaimed at the moment(will use for other distros). My /etc/grub.conf is as follows: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,4) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=0 timeout=5 splashimage=(hd0,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Fedora Core4 (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4smp) root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4smp ro root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4smp.img title Fedora Core4-up (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4) root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 ro root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4.img title Fedora Core3 (2.6.9-1.667smp) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667smp ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.9-1.667smp.img title Fedora Core3-up (2.6.9-1.667) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.9-1.667.img title Windows XP Profesional rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 System boots just fine to every O/S, the only issue I have is who is controlling Grub? From the way it looks I will have to manually modify grub.conf with each kernel update on both releases, as I had to do this after installing FC4t3(luckily I copied FC3's grub.conf to floppy before installing FC4t3). If anyone has a better answer please let me know. Thanx, Don From russell at coker.com.au Sun May 29 05:19:36 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:19:36 +1000 Subject: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <20050514192620.GA26643@redhat.com> References: <20050514192620.GA26643@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> On Sunday 15 May 2005 05:26, Dave Jones wrote: > > Today I booted up into Fedora, and I can not get to runlevel 5 as > > SELinux is blocking EVERYTHING from running. I can not even "yum > > update" as SELinux is blocking both the process as well as access to > > the yum directory. > > I had something like this happen to me about a month ago. > iirc, I booted with selinux=0 and ran 'fixfiles relabel' > and it was fine afterwards. Using enforcing=0 is a better option in this case. While running with selinux=0 security labels are not applied automatically, and therefore files created at shutdown (such as /etc/mtab) don't get labeled. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From blackman at pharm.uoa.gr Sun May 29 06:35:12 2005 From: blackman at pharm.uoa.gr (blackman at pharm.uoa.gr) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 09:35:12 +0300 Subject: FC4_64 : Grub Is not Working on Dual boot Message-ID: <1117348512.429962a0688fa@webmail.uoa.gr> Well no, it'w not the default option what I see... I see a tect saying that this is a minimal bash like command line. I manage to boot windows Xp writting: rootnoverigy (hd0,0) chainloader +1 boot I have tried the following: Installing fc3 and then upgrade to fc4 although fc3 install the grub as it is supposed to fc4 is not! also on /boot/grub the grub.conf exists and the it's been set ok by the system... but when booting grub boots to that grub GNU GRUB version 0.95 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename.] Im convinsed it's setup problem since It have tryed more than 3 times installing it even formating the whole disk and setup Xp and then fc4 from scratch just to find out that IS NOT WORKING AS IT IS SUPPOSED To! From seanfedora at gmail.com Sun May 29 06:41:20 2005 From: seanfedora at gmail.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:41:20 -0700 Subject: Default Firefox icons are not... the default Firefox icons. In-Reply-To: <1117297008.3356.13.camel@simon.home> References: <1117297008.3356.13.camel@simon.home> Message-ID: <1117348880.22127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 18:16 +0200, Simon Lanzmich wrote: > Am Samstag, den 28.05.2005, 08:37 -0700 schrieb Sean Earp: > > Has anyone noticed that the default Firefox toolbar icons > > (which Themes SAYS is the default Firefox 2.0 Theme set) is > > definitely NOT the default theme set? The icons in the > > current Rawhide firefox are plug-ugly, and do not match the > > default firefox icons that are present on my Windows box, > > my Mac, and FC2 (those all match each other). I'm not sure > > what these icons are, but they need to be replaced by the > > correct default firefox icons! > > Hi, > what you describe seems to be a feature, since rawhide firefox uses > icons from your gnome theme. This is imho a great improvement, because > the look and feel is now a lot more consistent. > To have other icons, you may install another firefox theme or change / > modify your gtk-theme. You could also try to pick the default theme from > the original firefox package, but I'm not sure whether this works. > > Though, I agree with you that it may be confusing to call the theme > 'Firefox (default) 2.0'. > > Simon An interesting thought, although I have the same ugly icons in KDE as well. Looking around on the 'net, I found a thread at mozillazine.org that indicates that the Firefox folks would like the default theme to be consistent across platforms (which makes sense), and this is the case on every platform I have used Firefox on. The reason(s) this seems more like a bug than a feature to me are: -The icons look nothing like any other platform; which all use the same default theme -If you click View --> Toolbars --> Customize, The "Bookmarks, History, and "Download" icons are non-existent, while the "New Tab" icon looks like it was drawn by a 3-year old If for some reason Fedora is going to go with a non-standard theme (even though it erroneously claims to be the default theme), can we go with something that is at least pleasing to the eye, like Noia or Qute? Firefox is the default web browser on FC4, it is the App that most people use on a frequent basis, and is getting all sorts of press right now. All I am asking is that the default icons be the default icons... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=138986 Just my 2 cents, and if I had a clue how to fix it myself, I'd submit a patch. -Sean :) From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl Sat May 28 23:46:50 2005 From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst von Brand) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 19:46:50 -0400 Subject: [OT] Upgrading from RH73 to FC2 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 28 May 2005 09:18:01 +0200." <1117264681.2608.67.camel@hush> Message-ID: <200505282346.j4SNkopB031872@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> tony said: > > Why FC2? It is end of life. Why not wait a couple of weeks and use > > FC4? > One reason for not using FC4 is if you are using VIA EPIA M and need DRM > for MPEG2 acceleration. > One reason for not using FC3 is that udev is "a work in progress" and > DVB and lirc are tough to get working from FC supplied kernels. Not having any need for either, can't comment. > I can not compile a stock kernel.org kernel on FC4 without funky errors. Strange... I do it almost daily. Currently running 2.6.12-rc5 from git as of yesterday. -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 From pbrobinson at gmail.com Sun May 29 08:24:34 2005 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 09:24:34 +0100 Subject: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> References: <20050514192620.GA26643@redhat.com> <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> > > > Today I booted up into Fedora, and I can not get to runlevel 5 as > > > SELinux is blocking EVERYTHING from running. I can not even "yum > > > update" as SELinux is blocking both the process as well as access to > > > the yum directory. > > > > I had something like this happen to me about a month ago. > > iirc, I booted with selinux=0 and ran 'fixfiles relabel' > > and it was fine afterwards. > > Using enforcing=0 is a better option in this case. While running with > selinux=0 security labels are not applied automatically, and therefore files > created at shutdown (such as /etc/mtab) don't get labeled. That's a good bit of info to know as I'm running my laptop with selinux=0 because when I connect it to our corporate network DHCP can't get an IP address with it enabled. Its a Dell D600 laptop with a Broadcom tg3 network adapter. The DHCP server is (unfortunately) a Windows 2003SP1 server. Pete From hmj at elgert.dk Sun May 29 08:32:55 2005 From: hmj at elgert.dk (Harry Jensen) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:32:55 +0200 Subject: Openoffice segmentation fault, FC4 (x86_64) Message-ID: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> Hi, I'm new in the area of Fedora, but anyway, tried to install the test release, just because of my SATA hdd. I've installed OpenOffice, and it just worked out of the box, but for some reason I cannot start it now, and gets the following: /usr/lib/openoffice.org1.9.104/program/soffice: line 247: 2912 Segmentation fault "$sd_prog/$sd_binary" "$@" ...I have installed plenty of programs after OpenOffice, so there is probably one of those generating this fault, but which one is the wise question ;-) ..could someone give me a little hint of in which direction to search, or maybe a tool to use in the search ;-) ..thanks in advance. Brgds Harry Nivaa/Denmark PS: was posted in fedora-list, but just discovered this "-test-list", and thought this was the correct one to use. From russell at coker.com.au Sun May 29 08:38:40 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:38:40 +1000 Subject: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> On Sunday 29 May 2005 18:24, Peter Robinson wrote: > That's a good bit of info to know as I'm running my laptop with > selinux=0 because when I connect it to our corporate network DHCP > can't get an IP address with it enabled. Its a Dell D600 laptop with a > Broadcom tg3 network adapter. The DHCP server is (unfortunately) a > Windows 2003SP1 server. Are any AVC messages logged when the DHCP client fails? -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From gauret at free.fr Sun May 29 09:36:49 2005 From: gauret at free.fr (Aurelien Bompard) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:36:49 +0200 Subject: Runing Amarok References: <1117218350.3015.3.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> <20050528130225.40f7f499.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1117289167.4730.3.camel@nemesis.astradine.net> <20050528223720.654d2325.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: > You need to take out the version check before you can build Amarok. I've patched this, but it still does not build because of a missing /usr/lib/libfam.la file. This file is not provided by gamin-devel anymore, and a lot of kde libtool files refer to it (just do a "grep -l libfam.la /usr/lib/lib*.la) This has been filed in bugzilla (#159090). Aur?lien -- http://aurelien.bompard.org ~~~~ Jabber : abompard at jabber.fr One OS to hook them all One browser to find them One word processor to bring them all And in monopoly, bind them... From mpeters at mac.com Sun May 29 11:06:02 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 04:06:02 -0700 Subject: Openoffice segmentation fault, FC4 (x86_64) In-Reply-To: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> References: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> Message-ID: <1117364763.6112.24.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 10:32 +0200, Harry Jensen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new in the area of Fedora, but anyway, tried to install the test > release, just because of my SATA hdd. > > I've installed OpenOffice, and it just worked out of the box, but for > some reason I cannot start it now, and gets the following: > > /usr/lib/openoffice.org1.9.104/program/soffice: line 247: 2912 > Segmentation fault "$sd_prog/$sd_binary" "$@" > > ...I have installed plenty of programs after OpenOffice, so there is > probably one of those generating this fault, but which one is the wise > question ;-) Unless you installed something that modified OO.o or one of its dependencies, it should not be related to something you installed. This is a test release and sometimes things break in a test release. I don't use OO.o - so I don't know what your problem might be - but try verifying the OO.o rpm's and make sure your OO.o isn't damaged. When you installed other software, did you install from source or did you use a package repository? Ideally, you should only install software via rpm (prevents conflicts) and ideally, you should only install via rpm from a package repository designed to work with your release of Fedora - IE Fedora Extras and rpm.livna.org Some repositories don't mix well and can cause problems, others are not publishing packages designed to work with rawhide, etc. Check bugzilla - if your OO.o problem is a Fedora problem, it is popular enough of an app that there is possibly a bugzilla about your issue, perhaps even with a workaround. From akonstam at trinity.edu Sun May 29 11:29:42 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 06:29:42 -0500 Subject: FC4_64 : Grub Is not Working on Dual boot In-Reply-To: <20050529040754.1090A4C737@mx.the-caseys.com> References: <20050528220843.GA8754@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <20050529040754.1090A4C737@mx.the-caseys.com> Message-ID: <20050529112942.GA16286@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> > I don't think that this would be something that is only particular to the > 64bit kernel. Today I installed from scratch on one machine with a single > 80GB SATA drive: > > W*ndows XP Profesional > Fedora Core3 > Fedora Core4t3 > > Drive is now partitioned as follows: > > /dev/sda1 NTFS 20480 > /dev/sda2 /boot ext3 102 > /dev/sda3 VolGroup00 LVM PV 20379 > VolGroup00 > LogVol00 / ext3 18368 > LogVol01 swap 1952 > /dev/sda4 Extended 35354 > /dev/sda5 /boot ext3 102 > /dev/sda6 VolGroup01 LVM PV 20379 > VolGroup01 > LogVol00 / ext3 18368 > LogVol01 swap 1952 > > Remaining 15GB are unclaimed at the moment(will use for other distros). My > /etc/grub.conf is as follows: > > # grub.conf generated by anaconda > # > # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file > # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that > # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. > # root (hd0,4) > # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 > # initrd /initrd-version.img > #boot=/dev/sda > default=0 > timeout=5 > splashimage=(hd0,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > hiddenmenu > title Fedora Core4 (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4smp) > root (hd0,4) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4smp ro > root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4smp.img > title Fedora Core4-up (2.6.11-1.1286_FC4) > root (hd0,4) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4 ro root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 > rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.11-1.1286_FC4.img > title Fedora Core3 (2.6.9-1.667smp) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667smp ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb > quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.9-1.667smp.img > title Fedora Core3-up (2.6.9-1.667) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb > quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.9-1.667.img > title Windows XP Profesional > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > chainloader +1 > > System boots just fine to every O/S, the only issue I have is who is > controlling Grub? From the way it looks I will have to manually modify > grub.conf with each kernel update on both releases, as I had to do this > after installing FC4t3(luckily I copied FC3's grub.conf to floppy before > installing FC4t3). If anyone has a better answer please let me know. > > Thanx, > Don I don't see how you comments above were attached to the precious posts since this is on a different topic. But when you install a new kernel through yum for example the grub.conf is automatically modified to include the new kernel as the default kernel of the next boot. ======================================================================= You can always tell luck from ability by its duration. ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University telephone: (210)-999-7484 From buildsys at redhat.com Sun May 29 11:35:39 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 07:35:39 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050529 changes Message-ID: <200505291135.j4TBZd6r010525@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: (none) From arjanv at redhat.com Sun May 29 11:52:41 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 13:52:41 +0200 Subject: Openoffice segmentation fault, FC4 (x86_64) In-Reply-To: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> References: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> Message-ID: <1117367562.6278.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 10:32 +0200, Harry Jensen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new in the area of Fedora, but anyway, tried to install the test > release, just because of my SATA hdd. are you using the binary nvidia video drivers ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From hmj at elgert.dk Sun May 29 13:08:50 2005 From: hmj at elgert.dk (Harry Jensen) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:08:50 +0200 Subject: Openoffice segmentation fault, FC4 (x86_64) In-Reply-To: <1117367562.6278.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> <1117367562.6278.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <4299BEE2.9020601@elgert.dk> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > are you using the binary nvidia video drivers ? > > ..hmmm, just replaced Driver "nvidia" with "nv" in the xorg.conf, and ta-da, now it works. ..I wonder if there is some kind of a solution to this.. From marchenko at gmail.com Sun May 29 13:32:56 2005 From: marchenko at gmail.com (Vlad) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 09:32:56 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance Message-ID: Hello, I've ran a series of tests on FC4 x86_64 and FC3 x86_64. Found that the performance is quite poor under FC4 (Athlon64 on nForce 4 Ultra). I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did measurement via lo0. It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both cases. Any ideas? -- Vlad From arjanv at redhat.com Sun May 29 13:55:25 2005 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:55:25 +0200 Subject: Openoffice segmentation fault, FC4 (x86_64) In-Reply-To: <4299BD5F.3080108@elgert.dk> References: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> <1117367562.6278.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4299BD5F.3080108@elgert.dk> Message-ID: <1117374925.6278.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 15:02 +0200, Harry Jensen wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > are you using the binary nvidia video drivers ? > > > > Exactly, installed them yesterday morning... is the Nvidia driver my > problem? > yes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Tom Diehl tdiehl at rogueind.com Spamtrap address mtd123 at rogueind.com From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun May 29 15:36:21 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 16:36:21 +0100 Subject: Importing OOImpress docs into OOWriter Message-ID: <1117380981.25563.82.camel@localhost> Hi, Is this the correct behaviour before I bung it into bugzilla? I have a Writer file and need to bring in the slides from a Impress presentation. I go to Insert->Object->OLE->Impress file and then specify the file. All that loads is a single slide from the presentation rather than either all of the slides on separate pages or however it's specified on the handouts. It doesn't look right to me. As a side note, I think I've unearthed another bug. If you export an Impress presentation as an Draw file (either for vsn 1 or vsn 2 of OOo) and then try to reload it, the file is loaded into Impress rather than Draw. Anyone else seeing these? I'm using OOo 1.9.104-2 TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Give me some time > and I will look for it again. > > -Joshua Liebowitz > Ok I found my copy of the i2c.h patch I used to fix my problems compiling a new kernel with GCC4. I posted the patch up on the webspace Boston University gives me. http://people.bu.edu/liebowij/ I hope this helps. -Joshua Liebowitz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tgds.net Sun May 29 16:09:59 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:09:59 +0200 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 In-Reply-To: References: <20050529041210.C92127333B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117382999.18648.1.camel@hush> Le dimanche 29 mai 2005 ? 11:58 -0400, Joshua Liebowitz a ?crit : > > Ok I found my copy of the i2c.h patch I used to fix my problems > compiling a new kernel with GCC4. I posted the patch up on the > webspace Boston University gives me. http://people.bu.edu/liebowij/ > I hope this helps. Cool thanks for that. Do you have one that makes VIA EPIA DRM compile =:-D Cheers Tony From justin.conover at gmail.com Sun May 29 16:55:00 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:55:00 -0500 Subject: mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size Message-ID: Can't create a logical volume, have no problems doing it on another rawhide box. Plenty of space, I've done this ++++ times and for some reason this box is just causing a problem. "permission denied" Could this be a dieing HD? The box has 4x36GB scsi drives in it, in Raid0/lvm config. [root at trinity ~]# lvcreate -L2G -nLogVol08 VolGroup01 Logical volume "LogVol08" created [root at trinity ~]# mke2fs -j /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol08 mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) Could not stat /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol08 --- Permission denied [root at trinity ~]# mkfs.ext3 -F -j /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol08 mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size # mkfs.ext3 -F -j /dev/mapper/VolGroup01-LogVol08 mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size ]# mkfs.ext3 -F -j /dev/mapper/VolGroup01-LogVol08 mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size [root at trinity ~]# mke2fs -f /dev/mapper/VolGroup01-LogVol08 mke2fs: bad fragment size - /dev/mapper/VolGroup01-LogVol08 [root at trinity ~]# id -Z root:system_r:unconfined_t [root at trinity ~]# ls -la /sbin/ | grep mkfs -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7192 May 3 23:30 mkfs -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15872 May 3 23:30 mkfs.cramfs -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root 35888 May 10 04:17 mkfs.ext2 -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root 35888 May 10 04:17 mkfs.ext3 -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root 30180 Apr 28 09:31 mkfs.msdos -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root 30180 Apr 28 09:31 mkfs.vfat [root at trinity ~]# lsmod | grep ext3 ext3 133193 8 jbd 61785 1 ext3 [root at trinity ~]# vgdisplay --- Volume group --- VG Name VolGroup01 System ID Format lvm2 Metadata Areas 1 Metadata Sequence No 12 VG Access read/write VG Status resizable MAX LV 0 Cur LV 9 Open LV 8 Max PV 0 Cur PV 1 Act PV 1 VG Size 101.28 GB PE Size 32.00 MB Total PE 3241 Alloc PE / Size 672 / 21.00 GB Free PE / Size 2569 / 80.28 GB VG UUID 8A535T-TOpJ-Fzkg-BREJ-TJE7-E3Lp-nChZOg The differences on the box that work don't work are following, Works (x86_64/rawhide) # rpm -qa | grep lvm lvm2-2.01.08-1.0 <----- WHY 2? lvm2-2.01.08-2.1 system-config-lvm-0.9.32-1.0 # rpm -qa | grep e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-devel-1.37-4 e2fsprogs-1.37-4.x86_64 e2fsprogs-1.37-4.i386 Doesn't work (x86/Rawhide) # rpm -qa | grep lvm lvm2-2.01.08-2.1 system-config-lvm-0.9.32-1.0 # rpm -qa | grep e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-devel-1.37-4 e2fsprogs-1.37-4 Both box's are in a soft raid/lvm config, Not sure why the i386 box defaulted to VolGroup01 but shouldn't matter in any case. From nman64 at n-man.com Sun May 29 17:28:39 2005 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:28:39 -0500 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4299FBC7.2070707@n-man.com> Vlad wrote: >Hello, > >I've ran a series of tests on FC4 x86_64 and FC3 x86_64. Found that >the performance is quite poor under FC4 (Athlon64 on nForce 4 Ultra). > > > I've had no performance problems with x86_64 installations, on any of the chipsets I've tried. In some cases, the speed has improved dramatically. >I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of >a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with >the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is >440 while FC3 showed up to 730. > Perhaps you should try a different benchmark without recompiling software. Version or configuration differences could easily be causing your problems. Did you at least use the SRPMs? >Network is not the issue cause I did >measurement via lo0. > >It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both >cases. Any ideas? > > > Try other benchmarks and see if you can narrow down the problem a bit, or determine if there even is a problem to begin with. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com www.n-man.com -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What about some "semi-official" repo like livna, but with >mono-stuff (Mpackage?) > >Kyrre > > I notice that the mono site has a yum repo for FC3, Is anything else required? > Scott From vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net Sun May 29 18:36:51 2005 From: vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net (HGM.bg (GMX)) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:36:51 +0200 Subject: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200505291837.j4TIb3AQ031120@mx3.redhat.com> From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Liebowitz Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 5:58 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: RE: Standard-Kernel doesn't compile on FC4T3 > Ok I found my copy of the i2c.h patch I used to fix my problems compiling a new kernel with GCC4. > I posted the patch up on the webspace Boston University gives me. http://people.bu.edu/liebowij/ > I hope this helps. Thanks from Germany for this Joshua !! > -Joshua Liebowitz Greets /hgm.bg From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun May 29 19:14:38 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:14:38 +0200 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <1117333926.2499.4.camel@cutter> References: <20050528010429.61034.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1117243766.19135.6.camel@cutter> <1117316550.3355.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117333926.2499.4.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <1117394077.4577.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> s?n, 29.05.2005 kl. 04.32 skrev seth vidal: > On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 23:42 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > l?r, 28.05.2005 kl. 03.29 skrev seth vidal: > > > On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:04 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > > > > Would Fedora Extras be the place to have Mono > > > > available then or another repository such as Dag? > > > > > > fedora extras is under the same legal restrictions as fedora core. > > > > > > -sv > > > > > > > Hmm.. What about some "semi-official" repo like livna, but with > > mono-stuff (Mpackage?) > > > > That's up to the mgmt of livna to determine. > Didn't mean *livna* - just "something" with the same status as livna. From chandana at desilva.id.au Sun May 29 19:25:16 2005 From: chandana at desilva.id.au (Chandana De Silva) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 05:25:16 +1000 Subject: Xserver Permission Problem In-Reply-To: <20050528041739.49177.qmail@web31415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050528041739.49177.qmail@web31415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1117394716.2724.25.camel@chandana.dis> Thank you very much. This works! On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 21:17 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > Have you tried ssh -X ? > > I had to do this in my switch from FC2 to FC3. > > Teak > > --- Chandana De Silva wrote: > > I am running FC4T3 on my desk top, and FC2 on two > > other computers. > > > > When I ssh into one of the FC2 computers from the > > FC4 and try to run any > > gui app (eg:xclock), I get the message : > > "Error: Can't open display:" > > > > I then try to specifically set the DISPLAY and still > > get the same > > message: > > [chandana at tarzan chandana]$ export > > DISPLAY=10.10.10.11:0.0 > > [chandana at tarzan chandana]$ xclock > > Error: Can't open display: 10.10.10.11:0.0 > > > > This works fine (without even bothering to set the > > DISPLAY) from the > > other FC2 computer. > > > > Is there some permission setting on the FC4 that is > > different ? > > > > Chandana > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From justin.conover at gmail.com Sun May 29 20:26:05 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:26:05 -0500 Subject: mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5/29/05, Justin Conover wrote: > Can't create a logical volume, have no problems doing it on another > rawhide box. Plenty of space, I've done this ++++ times and for some > reason this box is just causing a problem. "permission denied" > > Could this be a dieing HD? The box has 4x36GB scsi drives in it, in > Raid0/lvm config. > > > [root at trinity ~]# lvcreate -L2G -nLogVol08 VolGroup01 > Logical volume "LogVol08" created > [root at trinity ~]# mke2fs -j /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol08 > mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) > Could not stat /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol08 --- Permission denied > [root at trinity ~]# mkfs.ext3 -F -j /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol08 > mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) > mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size > # mkfs.ext3 -F -j /dev/mapper/VolGroup01-LogVol08 > mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) > mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size > ]# mkfs.ext3 -F -j /dev/mapper/VolGroup01-LogVol08 > mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) > mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size > [root at trinity ~]# mke2fs -f /dev/mapper/VolGroup01-LogVol08 > mke2fs: bad fragment size - /dev/mapper/VolGroup01-LogVol08 > > [root at trinity ~]# id -Z > root:system_r:unconfined_t > [root at trinity ~]# ls -la /sbin/ | grep mkfs > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7192 May 3 23:30 mkfs > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15872 May 3 23:30 mkfs.cramfs > -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root 35888 May 10 04:17 mkfs.ext2 > -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root 35888 May 10 04:17 mkfs.ext3 > -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root 30180 Apr 28 09:31 mkfs.msdos > -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root 30180 Apr 28 09:31 mkfs.vfat > [root at trinity ~]# lsmod | grep ext3 > ext3 133193 8 > jbd 61785 1 ext3 > > [root at trinity ~]# vgdisplay > --- Volume group --- > VG Name VolGroup01 > System ID > Format lvm2 > Metadata Areas 1 > Metadata Sequence No 12 > VG Access read/write > VG Status resizable > MAX LV 0 > Cur LV 9 > Open LV 8 > Max PV 0 > Cur PV 1 > Act PV 1 > VG Size 101.28 GB > PE Size 32.00 MB > Total PE 3241 > Alloc PE / Size 672 / 21.00 GB > Free PE / Size 2569 / 80.28 GB > VG UUID 8A535T-TOpJ-Fzkg-BREJ-TJE7-E3Lp-nChZOg > > > The differences on the box that work don't work are following, > > Works (x86_64/rawhide) > # rpm -qa | grep lvm > lvm2-2.01.08-1.0 <----- WHY 2? > lvm2-2.01.08-2.1 > system-config-lvm-0.9.32-1.0 > # rpm -qa | grep e2fsprogs > e2fsprogs-devel-1.37-4 > e2fsprogs-1.37-4.x86_64 > e2fsprogs-1.37-4.i386 > > > > Doesn't work (x86/Rawhide) > # rpm -qa | grep lvm > lvm2-2.01.08-2.1 > system-config-lvm-0.9.32-1.0 > # rpm -qa | grep e2fsprogs > e2fsprogs-devel-1.37-4 > e2fsprogs-1.37-4 > Both box's are in a soft raid/lvm config, Not sure why the i386 box > defaulted to VolGroup01 but shouldn't matter in any case. > Well, it looks like the problem is between mkfs and selinux. The box that works is set to # sestatus SELinux status: disabled While the one that doesn't work is running selinux, so is this a bug, can anyone else mkfs on selinux=1 box's? I haven't run into this before and I know I have other box's running selinux that i've created new fs on. From justin.conover at gmail.com Sun May 29 20:28:45 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:28:45 -0500 Subject: mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Well, it looks like the problem is between mkfs and selinux. The box > that works is set to > > # sestatus > SELinux status: disabled > > > While the one that doesn't work is running selinux, so is this a bug, > can anyone else mkfs on selinux=1 box's? I haven't run into this > before and I know I have other box's running selinux that i've created > new fs on. > Forgot to include the fact I booted with selinux=0 and made the file system. From vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net Sun May 29 20:57:46 2005 From: vdr.hgm.bg at gmx.net (HGM.bg (GMX)) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 22:57:46 +0200 Subject: Glibc without linuxthreads Message-ID: Hi, I try to get my VDR running and have to realize that there is no linuxthreads support in glibc anymore, so LD_ASSUME_KERNEL doesn't work anymore (correct me here if i'm wrong but these my recogniton of the relations). VDR still needs this switch, so i really need to recompile glibc to get this running or is it not possible anymore ? Thx /hgm.bg From russell at coker.com.au Sun May 29 21:26:22 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:26:22 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <200505261410.01716.russell@coker.com.au> References: <4294A242.2040401@namesys.com> <200505261410.01716.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <200505300726.26279.russell@coker.com.au> On Thursday 26 May 2005 14:09, Russell Coker wrote: > I reported a bug where I had a file system which if mounted would have a > "find /" operation cause a kernel Oops. As far as I am aware the bug in > question was never fixed. My previous message didn't go to the list because the attachment was too big. I've devised a test case that causes the ReiserFS v3 driver to access random memory and cause big problems (Oops and a clean shutdown is impossible). The test case is a file system that was freshly fsck'd so it indicates a bug in reiserfsck and the kernel code. The file system image is on http://www.coker.com.au/bug/reiser3.bz2 From bryanwellander at socal.rr.com Sun May 29 18:35:31 2005 From: bryanwellander at socal.rr.com (Bryan Wellander) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 14:35:31 -0400 Subject: Default Firefox icons are not... the default Firefox icons In-Reply-To: <20050529155820.0844F73AEF@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050529155820.0844F73AEF@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <429A0B73.1010905@socal.rr.com> Hi, I have noticed that too. I installed (removed all of the Firefox ,Thunderbird, and Mozilla packages that came with Fedora and grabbed the ones I trust from http://www.mozilla.org (these are the official builds from Mozilla). Mozilla does not seem to like the distros customizing the firefox browser. From davej at redhat.com Sun May 29 22:11:19 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:11:19 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:32:56AM -0400, Vlad wrote: > Hello, > > I've ran a series of tests on FC4 x86_64 and FC3 x86_64. Found that > the performance is quite poor under FC4 (Athlon64 on nForce 4 Ultra). > > I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of > a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with > the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is > 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did > measurement via lo0. > > It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both > cases. Any ideas? If you are running a kernel earlier than revision 2.6.11-1.1355, it'll have extra debugging enabled which will impact memory allocations. Are you running the latest rawhide ? Dave From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Sun May 29 22:37:12 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:37:12 -0700 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117406232.21255.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 18:11 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:32:56AM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've ran a series of tests on FC4 x86_64 and FC3 x86_64. Found that > > the performance is quite poor under FC4 (Athlon64 on nForce 4 Ultra). > > > > I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of > > a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with > > the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is > > 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did > > measurement via lo0. > > > > It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both > > cases. Any ideas? > > If you are running a kernel earlier than revision 2.6.11-1.1355, it'll > have extra debugging enabled which will impact memory allocations. > > Are you running the latest rawhide ? > > Dave > Dave: Should those of us running off of rawhide add anything extra to our bug reports due to this extra debugging? Sean From glozano at noldata.com Sun May 29 22:35:14 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 17:35:14 -0500 Subject: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1117406114.6021.15.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> All, this DHCP thing is probably other thing not SELINUX. I have SE turned off, and the dhcp(cd)(d) thing fails very often and too strange: Configuration: eth0 (8139too) and ath0 (madwifi, locally compiled.. hey! why dont include that in fc4?) eth0: static ip: 172.16.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0 ath0: dhcp client to a lynksys wifi router well, no matter in rc5.d there is a link to /etc/init.d/network, the interfaces DONT COME UP when the system is booted... all the stuff is fine and checked 3 times. Running /etc/init.d/network start works fine starting the interfaces... BUT!!!: After a couple of minutes, the IP address of the eth0 card is lost. Then, the ip address of the ath0 is lost also. (only works if eth0 is down) I run a dhcp server for my other 2 laptops in the main laptop, as they dont have wifi cards and the hotspot is too far away to connect an ethernet cable, so I have a mini hub to provide internet to the other 2 laptops... If I start dhcpd, it works for about 30 seconds, but then... all ip information is lost again... and again... manually setting ifconfig eth0 ........ works for about 10 seconds then the address is lost, (more frecuently when dhcpd is running).. On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 18:38 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sunday 29 May 2005 18:24, Peter Robinson wrote: > > That's a good bit of info to know as I'm running my laptop with > > selinux=0 because when I connect it to our corporate network DHCP > > can't get an IP address with it enabled. Its a Dell D600 laptop with a > > Broadcom tg3 network adapter. The DHCP server is (unfortunately) a > > Windows 2003SP1 server. > > Are any AVC messages logged when the DHCP client fails? > > -- > http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages > http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark > http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark > http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page > -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Sun May 29 22:40:06 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:40:06 -0700 Subject: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <1117406114.6021.15.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> References: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> <1117406114.6021.15.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: <1117406406.21255.4.camel@oscar.metro1.com> On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 17:35 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > Configuration: > eth0 (8139too) and ath0 (madwifi, locally compiled.. hey! why dont > include that in fc4?) > Madwifi may be an open-source project, but it is built on top of a binary "HAL" that precludes it's inclusion in projects like Fedora. Bummer eh? Sean From marchenko at gmail.com Sun May 29 22:40:55 2005 From: marchenko at gmail.com (Vlad) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:40:55 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> Message-ID: Dave, I did the tests several days ago; following your advise I just ran yum update and tested once again with 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4. Things are much improved now. thank you. On 5/29/05, Dave Jones wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:32:56AM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've ran a series of tests on FC4 x86_64 and FC3 x86_64. Found that > > the performance is quite poor under FC4 (Athlon64 on nForce 4 Ultra). > > > > I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of > > a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with > > the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is > > 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did > > measurement via lo0. > > > > It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both > > cases. Any ideas? > > If you are running a kernel earlier than revision 2.6.11-1.1355, it'll > have extra debugging enabled which will impact memory allocations. > > Are you running the latest rawhide ? > > Dave > > -- Vlad From glozano at noldata.com Sun May 29 22:41:24 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 17:41:24 -0500 Subject: IP Configuration: (was) Re: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1117406484.6021.19.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> More interesting yet, after doing some tests, I came to the conclusion, the ath0 interface lost its ip address as soon as a link is detected in eth0, I re-ran everything with the eth0 unplugged.. and everything worked fine until it get a Link.. I dont if this can probably come from the Interrupts: ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:90:96:F6:7E:A7 inet addr:192.168.254.104 Bcast:192.168.254.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:135193 errors:112 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:112 TX packets:171764 errors:23 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:199 RX bytes:106127772 (101.2 MiB) TX bytes:27167651 (25.9 MiB) Interrupt:11 Memory:dc8c0000-dc8d0000 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:3F:D8:C0:30 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:373 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6872 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:39233 (38.3 KiB) TX bytes:451056 (440.4 KiB) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xa000 They are both using the same irq... On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 18:38 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sunday 29 May 2005 18:24, Peter Robinson wrote: > > That's a good bit of info to know as I'm running my laptop with > > selinux=0 because when I connect it to our corporate network DHCP > > can't get an IP address with it enabled. Its a Dell D600 laptop with a > > Broadcom tg3 network adapter. The DHCP server is (unfortunately) a > > Windows 2003SP1 server. > > Are any AVC messages logged when the DHCP client fails? > > -- > http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages > http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark > http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark > http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page > -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From davej at redhat.com Sun May 29 22:44:12 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:44:12 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: <1117406232.21255.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> <1117406232.21255.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <20050529224412.GA20268@redhat.com> On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 03:37:12PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 18:11 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:32:56AM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've ran a series of tests on FC4 x86_64 and FC3 x86_64. Found that > > > the performance is quite poor under FC4 (Athlon64 on nForce 4 Ultra). > > > > > > I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of > > > a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with > > > the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is > > > 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did > > > measurement via lo0. > > > > > > It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both > > > cases. Any ideas? > > > > If you are running a kernel earlier than revision 2.6.11-1.1355, it'll > > have extra debugging enabled which will impact memory allocations. > > > > Are you running the latest rawhide ? > > > Dave: > > Should those of us running off of rawhide add anything extra to our bug > reports due to this extra debugging? Either I've misinterpreted your question, or you misinterpreted my previous mail. The current kernels have the debugging disabled. Dave From davej at redhat.com Sun May 29 22:45:47 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:45:47 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050529224547.GB20268@redhat.com> On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:40:55PM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > > I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of > > > a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with > > > the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is > > > 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did > > > measurement via lo0. > > > > > > It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both > > > cases. Any ideas? > > > > If you are running a kernel earlier than revision 2.6.11-1.1355, it'll > > have extra debugging enabled which will impact memory allocations. > > I did the tests several days ago; following your advise I just ran yum > update and tested once again with 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4. Things are much > improved now. Great! However, don't tease :-) I'm sure I'm not the only person curious what RPS you now achieve :-) Dave From glozano at noldata.com Sun May 29 22:44:35 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 17:44:35 -0500 Subject: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <1117406406.21255.4.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> <1117406114.6021.15.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117406406.21255.4.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <1117406676.6021.22.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Yes, you have a point there.. On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 15:40 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 17:35 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > > > Configuration: > > eth0 (8139too) and ath0 (madwifi, locally compiled.. hey! why dont > > include that in fc4?) > > > Madwifi may be an open-source project, but it is built on top of a > binary "HAL" that precludes it's inclusion in projects like Fedora. > Bummer eh? > > Sean > -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Sun May 29 22:52:00 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:52:00 -0700 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: <20050529224412.GA20268@redhat.com> References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> <1117406232.21255.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20050529224412.GA20268@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1117407120.21255.7.camel@oscar.metro1.com> On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 18:44 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 03:37:12PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 18:11 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:32:56AM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I've ran a series of tests on FC4 x86_64 and FC3 x86_64. Found that > > > > the performance is quite poor under FC4 (Athlon64 on nForce 4 Ultra). > > > > > > > > I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of > > > > a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with > > > > the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is > > > > 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did > > > > measurement via lo0. > > > > > > > > It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both > > > > cases. Any ideas? > > > > > > If you are running a kernel earlier than revision 2.6.11-1.1355, it'll > > > have extra debugging enabled which will impact memory allocations. > > > > > > Are you running the latest rawhide ? > > > > > Dave: > > > > Should those of us running off of rawhide add anything extra to our bug > > reports due to this extra debugging? > > Either I've misinterpreted your question, or you misinterpreted my > previous mail. The current kernels have the debugging disabled. > > Dave > Backwards reading doing was I. Never mind. Sean From ivg2 at cornell.edu Mon May 30 01:41:28 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:41:28 -0400 Subject: Docbook related build errors: libgnome, ORBit Message-ID: <1117417288.28791.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> I get docbook related build failures when trying to build libgnome and ORBit - any suggestions: gnome-score.c:209: warning: ignoring return value of 'truncate', declared with attribute warn_unused_result I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/html/chunk.xsl warning: failed to load external entity "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/html/chunk.xsl" compilation error: file /usr/share/gtk-doc/data/gtk-doc.xsl line 6 element import xsl:import : unable to load http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/html/chunk.xsl -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From marchenko at gmail.com Mon May 30 03:41:24 2005 From: marchenko at gmail.com (Vlad) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:41:24 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: <20050529224547.GB20268@redhat.com> References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> <20050529224547.GB20268@redhat.com> Message-ID: ok, here is the complete details: Athlon64 3000+ (it's +20Mhz overclocked on the bus, i.e. running on 220Mhz x 9 - roughly on par with Athlon64 3200+). NForce Ultra (MB: tyan k8e) with 1Gig. php 5.0.4 + 1.3.33 statically compiled with -O3 -msse3 -m3dnow -march=athlon64 -mcpu=athlon64; (can't recall if I did unroll loops and omit frame pointer) no extra switches or additional modules for configure. the test.php script looked like then tested with /usr/local/apache/bin/ab -c 50 -n 20000 http://localhost/test.php FC4 x86_64, kernel is 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4 - the RPS is 730. FC3 x86_64, latests kernel - same results. FC3 i386, latests kernel - 570 RPS. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (x86_64, stock kernel) - 670 RPS same hardware in all tests, same optimization switches during compilation. On 5/29/05, Dave Jones wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:40:55PM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > > > I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of > > > > a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with > > > > the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is > > > > 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did > > > > measurement via lo0. > > > > > > > > It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both > > > > cases. Any ideas? > > > > > > If you are running a kernel earlier than revision 2.6.11-1.1355, it'll > > > have extra debugging enabled which will impact memory allocations. > > > > I did the tests several days ago; following your advise I just ran yum > > update and tested once again with 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4. Things are much > > improved now. > > Great! However, don't tease :-) I'm sure I'm not the only person > curious what RPS you now achieve :-) > > Dave > -- Vlad From marchenko at gmail.com Mon May 30 03:46:02 2005 From: marchenko at gmail.com (Vlad) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:46:02 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> <20050529224547.GB20268@redhat.com> Message-ID: I forgot to mention -m64 flag that I also used. On 5/29/05, Vlad wrote: > ok, here is the complete details: > > Athlon64 3000+ (it's +20Mhz overclocked on the bus, i.e. running on > 220Mhz x 9 - roughly on par with Athlon64 3200+). > NForce Ultra (MB: tyan k8e) with 1Gig. > > php 5.0.4 + 1.3.33 statically compiled with -O3 -msse3 -m3dnow > -march=athlon64 -mcpu=athlon64; (can't recall if I did unroll loops > and omit frame pointer) > > no extra switches or additional modules for configure. > > the test.php script looked like > > phpinfo(); > phpinfo(INFO_MODULES); > ?> > > then tested with > /usr/local/apache/bin/ab -c 50 -n 20000 http://localhost/test.php > > FC4 x86_64, kernel is 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4 - the RPS is 730. > FC3 x86_64, latests kernel - same results. > FC3 i386, latests kernel - 570 RPS. > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (x86_64, stock kernel) - 670 RPS > > same hardware in all tests, same optimization switches during compilation. > > On 5/29/05, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:40:55PM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > > > > I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of > > > > > a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with > > > > > the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is > > > > > 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did > > > > > measurement via lo0. > > > > > > > > > > It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both > > > > > cases. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > If you are running a kernel earlier than revision 2.6.11-1.1355, it'll > > > > have extra debugging enabled which will impact memory allocations. > > > > > > I did the tests several days ago; following your advise I just ran yum > > > update and tested once again with 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4. Things are much > > > improved now. > > > > Great! However, don't tease :-) I'm sure I'm not the only person > > curious what RPS you now achieve :-) > > > > Dave > > > > > -- > > Vlad > -- Vlad From davej at redhat.com Mon May 30 03:49:46 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:49:46 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> <20050529224547.GB20268@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050530034946.GE20268@redhat.com> On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 11:41:24PM -0400, Vlad wrote: > FC4 x86_64, kernel is 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4 - the RPS is 730. > FC3 x86_64, latests kernel - same results. > FC3 i386, latests kernel - 570 RPS. > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (x86_64, stock kernel) - 670 RPS I'd suspect the reason FC3 sucks right now on this benchmark is that 2.6.11 contained the 4-level page table support for AMD64, though it wasn't optimised until 2.6.12rc. At least its the only thing that comes to mind that could explain such a huge delta between the two. Good to know things are back to normal however. Dave From marchenko at gmail.com Mon May 30 03:59:17 2005 From: marchenko at gmail.com (Vlad) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:59:17 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> <20050529224547.GB20268@redhat.com> Message-ID: lastly, if it will make someones choice of the platform easier: same test.php on P4-3Ghz-1Gb, FC3-386 shows 540 RPS - comparable to Athlon 3000+ results on FC3 i386, but noticeably lesser than what same Athlon shows in 64 environment. On 5/29/05, Vlad wrote: > I forgot to mention -m64 flag that I also used. > > On 5/29/05, Vlad wrote: > > ok, here is the complete details: > > > > Athlon64 3000+ (it's +20Mhz overclocked on the bus, i.e. running on > > 220Mhz x 9 - roughly on par with Athlon64 3200+). > > NForce Ultra (MB: tyan k8e) with 1Gig. > > > > php 5.0.4 + 1.3.33 statically compiled with -O3 -msse3 -m3dnow > > -march=athlon64 -mcpu=athlon64; (can't recall if I did unroll loops > > and omit frame pointer) > > > > no extra switches or additional modules for configure. > > > > the test.php script looked like > > > > > phpinfo(); > > phpinfo(INFO_MODULES); > > ?> > > > > then tested with > > /usr/local/apache/bin/ab -c 50 -n 20000 http://localhost/test.php > > > > FC4 x86_64, kernel is 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4 - the RPS is 730. > > FC3 x86_64, latests kernel - same results. > > FC3 i386, latests kernel - 570 RPS. > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (x86_64, stock kernel) - 670 RPS > > > > same hardware in all tests, same optimization switches during compilation. > > > > On 5/29/05, Dave Jones wrote: > > > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:40:55PM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > > > > > I've compiled apache+php and measured max requests per second (rps) of > > > > > > a simple php script (output of phpinfo(); php_info(INFO_MODULES)) with > > > > > > the apache's 'ab' application. The maximum RPS I managed for FC4 is > > > > > > 440 while FC3 showed up to 730. Network is not the issue cause I did > > > > > > measurement via lo0. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the same server and I've ran yum update before tests in both > > > > > > cases. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > If you are running a kernel earlier than revision 2.6.11-1.1355, it'll > > > > > have extra debugging enabled which will impact memory allocations. > > > > > > > > I did the tests several days ago; following your advise I just ran yum > > > > update and tested once again with 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4. Things are much > > > > improved now. > > > > > > Great! However, don't tease :-) I'm sure I'm not the only person > > > curious what RPS you now achieve :-) > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Vlad > > > > > -- > > Vlad > -- Vlad From marchenko at gmail.com Mon May 30 04:03:44 2005 From: marchenko at gmail.com (Vlad) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 00:03:44 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: <20050530034946.GE20268@redhat.com> References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> <20050529224547.GB20268@redhat.com> <20050530034946.GE20268@redhat.com> Message-ID: wait, you mean the i386 version of FC3? case FC3 x86_64 shows same numbers as FC4 x86_64 for me.... On 5/29/05, Dave Jones wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 11:41:24PM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > > FC4 x86_64, kernel is 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4 - the RPS is 730. > > FC3 x86_64, latests kernel - same results. > > FC3 i386, latests kernel - 570 RPS. > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (x86_64, stock kernel) - 670 RPS > > I'd suspect the reason FC3 sucks right now on this benchmark is that > 2.6.11 contained the 4-level page table support for AMD64, though > it wasn't optimised until 2.6.12rc. > > At least its the only thing that comes to mind that could explain > such a huge delta between the two. Good to know things are back > to normal however. > > Dave > > -- Vlad From davej at redhat.com Mon May 30 04:20:21 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 00:20:21 -0400 Subject: FC4 test (x86_64) poor performance In-Reply-To: References: <20050529221119.GA15019@redhat.com> <20050529224547.GB20268@redhat.com> <20050530034946.GE20268@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050530042021.GF20268@redhat.com> On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 12:03:44AM -0400, Vlad wrote: > > > FC4 x86_64, kernel is 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4 - the RPS is 730. > > > FC3 x86_64, latests kernel - same results. > > > FC3 i386, latests kernel - 570 RPS. > > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (x86_64, stock kernel) - 670 RPS > > > > I'd suspect the reason FC3 sucks right now on this benchmark is that > > 2.6.11 contained the 4-level page table support for AMD64, though > > it wasn't optimised until 2.6.12rc. > > > > At least its the only thing that comes to mind that could explain > > such a huge delta between the two. Good to know things are back > > to normal however. > > > wait, you mean the i386 version of FC3? case FC3 x86_64 shows same > numbers as FC4 x86_64 for me.... Oh, in that case, I have no explanation, as the 4-level pagetables should have only affected x86-64. Dave From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 30 04:48:53 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:48:53 +1000 Subject: Default Firefox icons are not... the default Firefox icons. In-Reply-To: <1117348880.22127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1117297008.3356.13.camel@simon.home> <1117348880.22127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1117428533.3213.44.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 23:41 -0700, Sean Earp wrote: > -If you click View --> Toolbars --> Customize, The "Bookmarks, History, > and "Download" icons are non-existent, while the "New Tab" icon looks > like it was drawn by a 3-year old bugzilla this, as this obviously needs to be addressed, even if it is with the ugly icons. ;-] > If for some reason Fedora is going to go with a non-standard theme > (even though it erroneously claims to be the default theme), can we go > with something that is at least pleasing to the eye, like Noia or Qute? It of course rasies the question, why have a GTK+ version of firefox (a officially supported option) if 'they' don't want you to use GTK+ icons in the interface. > Firefox is the default web browser on FC4, it is the App that most > people use on a frequent basis, and is getting all sorts of press right > now. All I am asking is that the default icons be the default icons... I like that mozilla looks consistent with the rest of my desktop, instead of the 'Good Old Days (tm)' when it stood out like a saw thumb. I'm not actually sure that FC4 isn't doing anything that the mozilla developers haven't helped happen. Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From drepper at redhat.com Mon May 30 05:29:52 2005 From: drepper at redhat.com (Ulrich Drepper) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 22:29:52 -0700 Subject: Glibc without linuxthreads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <429AA4D0.5040603@redhat.com> HGM.bg (GMX) wrote: > I try to get my VDR running and have to realize that there is no > linuxthreads support in glibc anymore, so LD_ASSUME_KERNEL doesn't work > anymore The DSOs are still available. Add LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads to the command line. Substitute lib64 for lib in case of an 64-bit machine. -- ? Ulrich Drepper ? Red Hat, Inc. ? 444 Castro St ? Mountain View, CA ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Klaasjan From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 30 06:17:51 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:17:51 +1000 Subject: Openoffice segmentation fault, FC4 (x86_64) In-Reply-To: <1117433030.3544.2.camel@isengard> References: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> <1117367562.6278.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4299BEE2.9020601@elgert.dk> <1117433030.3544.2.camel@isengard> Message-ID: <1117433871.3213.52.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 08:03 +0200, Klaasjan Brand wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 15:08 +0200, Harry Jensen wrote: > > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > > > > are you using the binary nvidia video drivers ? > > > > > > > > > > ..hmmm, just replaced Driver "nvidia" with "nv" in the xorg.conf, and > > ta-da, now it works. > > > > ..I wonder if there is some kind of a solution to this.. > > > > Current nvidia binary drivers produce a segfault on rawhide when using > opengl. Maybe your openoffice has opengl acceleration enabled? You know, (and I hope someone from NVIDIA is on this list and listening), these continual threads about NVIDIA almost amount to the best argument I've heard for why they should open source the drivers. If one tenth of the amount of time spent discussing why NVIDIA's drivers are responsible for something and why people will just have to wait was spent actually developing the drivers, NVIDIA would have the most amazing driver out there. ;-] Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From pri.rhl4 at iadonisi.to Mon May 30 06:30:11 2005 From: pri.rhl4 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 02:30:11 -0400 Subject: Default Firefox icons are not... the default Firefox icons. In-Reply-To: <1117428533.3213.44.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> References: <1117297008.3356.13.camel@simon.home> <1117348880.22127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117428533.3213.44.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> Message-ID: <1117434611.27644.17.camel@md.nc.linuxlobbyist.org> On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 14:48 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: [snip] > I like that mozilla looks consistent with the rest of my desktop, > instead of the 'Good Old Days (tm)' when it stood out like a saw thumb. Amen to that. IMNSHO, themeable apps are evil. Or at least themeable apps that don't let me pick "use my desktop theme, dammit" for a theme are evil. ;-) > I'm not actually sure that FC4 isn't doing anything that the mozilla > developers haven't helped happen. Dang, a triple negative? Well, I followed it, at least. ;-) And agree, of course. It's always good practice to have a good working relationship with upstream developers. But if they don't like you customizing their software, they should evaluate the terms under which they've distributed their software. That said, it is a little odd, and probably not a good idea to have a theme named as it is upstream, but using different icons. -Paul "getting fed up with developers deciding they don't like custom distributions of their software when the license(s) they've *chosen* explicitly allow it" Iadonisi -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon May 30 06:41:41 2005 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:41:41 +1000 Subject: Default Firefox icons are not... the default Firefox icons. In-Reply-To: <1117434611.27644.17.camel@md.nc.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <1117297008.3356.13.camel@simon.home> <1117348880.22127.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1117428533.3213.44.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> <1117434611.27644.17.camel@md.nc.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <1117435301.3213.57.camel@jellyfish.redfishdemo.com> > > I'm not actually sure that FC4 isn't doing anything that the mozilla > > developers haven't helped happen. > > Dang, a triple negative? Well, I followed it, at least. ;-) I didn't mean to be that negative ;-] > And agree, of course. It's always good practice to have a good working > relationship with upstream developers. But if they don't like you > customizing their software, they should evaluate the terms under which > they've distributed their software. > That said, it is a little odd, and probably not a good idea to have a > theme named as it is upstream, but using different icons. While I get your drift, suggesting that two distinct groups shouldn't call their particular default themes 'default' is a little strange don't you think? ;-] Rodd -- >From the pain come the dream >From the dream come the vision >From the vision come the people >From the people come the power >From this power come the change - Peter Gabriel -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From kms at passback.co.uk Mon May 30 08:47:13 2005 From: kms at passback.co.uk (Keith Sharp) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:47:13 +0100 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <4299FE18.30908@cox.net> References: <20050528010429.61034.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1117243766.19135.6.camel@cutter> <1117316550.3355.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4299FE18.30908@cox.net> Message-ID: <1117442833.6474.17.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 10:38 -0700, Scott wrote: > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > >l?r, 28.05.2005 kl. 03.29 skrev seth vidal: > > > > > >>On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:04 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Would Fedora Extras be the place to have Mono > >>>available then or another repository such as Dag? > >>> > >>> > >>fedora extras is under the same legal restrictions as fedora core. > >> > >>-sv > >> > >> > >> > > > >Hmm.. What about some "semi-official" repo like livna, but with > >mono-stuff (Mpackage?) > > > >Kyrre > > I notice that the mono site has a yum repo for FC3, Is anything else required? You would need to get the SRPMs and rebuild them for FC4T3 (and FC4 eventually). It would also make sense to go over the SPEC files and make sure they were meeting the requirements of the Extras project. Finally you should check there is nothing the SPECs/RPMs that would preclude them moving to Core should the legal/patents issues ever be cleared up. Keith. From goemon at anime.net Mon May 30 08:48:17 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 01:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <200505252200.42522.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 May 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 21:01, Dan Hollis wrote: > > > How is it lacking? In a quick test it seems to work. > > reiserfs (at least up to 2.6.11.10) doesnt have working support for > > selinux attributes. > The latest rawhide kernel seems to have it. Did you do any tests? Yep I just finished testing. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159123 there you go, as you requested. -Dan From twaugh at redhat.com Mon May 30 09:45:52 2005 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:45:52 +0100 Subject: Docbook related build errors: libgnome, ORBit In-Reply-To: <1117417288.28791.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1117417288.28791.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050530094552.GW8706@redhat.com> On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:41:28PM -0400, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > I get docbook related build failures when trying to build > libgnome and ORBit - any suggestions: > > gnome-score.c:209: warning: ignoring return value of 'truncate', > declared with attribute warn_unused_result > I/O error : Attempt to load network entity > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/html/chunk.xsl > warning: failed to load external entity > "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/html/chunk.xsl" > compilation error: file /usr/share/gtk-doc/data/gtk-doc.xsl line 6 > element import > xsl:import : unable to load > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/html/chunk.xsl Looks like docbook-style-xsl isn't correctly installed. 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I haven't run into this >>before and I know I have other box's running selinux that i've created >>new fs on. >> >> >> > >Forgot to include the fact I booted with selinux=0 and made the file system. > >-- >fedora-selinux-list mailing list >fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list > > You machine needs to be relabeled. If you boot as selinux=0 you will need to relabel when you want to run selinux again. Using enforcing=0 (setenforce 0) is a better option, since it maintains the file context. touch /.autorelabel reboot -- From sriharivijayaraghavan at yahoo.com.au Mon May 30 11:11:10 2005 From: sriharivijayaraghavan at yahoo.com.au (Srihari Vijayaraghavan) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:11:10 +1000 (EST) Subject: Install of FC4T3 fails to update MBR in Windows dual boot env. In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050530111110.63499.qmail@web52609.mail.yahoo.com> --- akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 02:17:04PM +1000, Srihari When I booted in rescue mode and execute grub-install /dev/hdc (or hdd), it prints this error message (and return exit code 1): /dev/hdd7 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. I presume anaconda must have encountered the same problem, though it said 'all is well' :-). (Quick googling does not reveal an easy fix.) > Well first we did exactly the same thing and it > worked with Linux and > Windows both booting. I would agree we need toi be > sure that the grub > was installed on the right drive: > In any case at this point you can use the rescue > disk to install grub > in the MBR. > > Just in case the process is as follows: > Boot the rescue disk and at some point it will > identify you linux and > mount it on /mnt/sysimage. Then run a : chroot > /mnt/sysimage > Check on your /boot/grub/grub.conf to see if it is > correct. Both the > linux and Windows can be booted from the grub you > will install in MBR. > Then to do the installation you can do it one of two > ways: > 1. grub-install /dev/hda > > 2. The series of commands: > grub > grub> root (hd0,4) <--- the 4 must be changed if > your linuxis on a > different partition. > grub> setup (hd0) > grub> quit > Although the first option is easier to type the > second works more > consistently. If you don't know how to set up > windows in grub it is > with the lines: > title windows > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > chainloader +1 OK. We shall give that a go. Thanks Hari Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com From buildsys at redhat.com Mon May 30 11:32:27 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:32:27 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050530 changes Message-ID: <200505301132.j4UBWRv8006582@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: (none) From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon May 30 13:30:49 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:30:49 -0500 Subject: mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size In-Reply-To: <429AE34F.2080404@redhat.com> References: <429AE34F.2080404@redhat.com> Message-ID: > >Forgot to include the fact I booted with selinux=0 and made the file system. > > > >-- > >fedora-selinux-list mailing list > >fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com > >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list > > > > > You machine needs to be relabeled. If you boot as selinux=0 you will > need to relabel when you want to run > selinux again. Using enforcing=0 (setenforce 0) is a better option, > since it maintains the file context. > touch /.autorelabel > reboot > Right, but why did it not let me created a file system with selinux=1? I did a fresh install of fc4t3 on this box too, with the same results. From mharris at redhat.com Mon May 30 13:32:55 2005 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test Update: xorg-x11-6.8.2-1.FC3.34 Message-ID: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2005-393 2005-05-24 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 3 Name : xorg-x11 Version : 6.8.2 Release : 1.FC3.34 Summary : The basic fonts, programs and docs for an X workstation. Description : X.org X11 is an open source implementation of the X Window System. It provides the basic low level functionality which full fledged graphical user interfaces (GUIs) such as GNOME and KDE are designed upon. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Since the last official update of xorg-x11 for Fedora Core 3, a number of bugs have been fixed in Fedora Core development builds. This test update merges the fixes that are currently in our Fedora Core 4 builds into Fedora Core 3 to get more widespread testing coverage. Please refer to the changelog below for a fairly complete list of changes that have occured since the last update. Users who have experienced problems with Xorg in Fedora Core 3 who have filed bug reports already are encouraged to install and test this latest release and provide feedback in bugzilla for previously reported issues. There may be additional test updates prior to the next official FC3 xorg-x11 update. Please report any regressions in this new release via bugzilla. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Mon May 23 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-1.FC3.34 - Enabled FC4 patches for FC3, and synchronized FC3 CVS with FC4. - Built 6.8.2-34 as 6.8.2-1.FC3.34 for FC3-testing release. * Mon May 23 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-34 - Add libFS.so and libGLw.so to -devel package file list, as they were just discovered to be missing all along due to a bug (#108778) in rpm not detecting unpackaged symlinks in buildroots. * Fri May 20 2005 Bill Nottingham 6.8.2-33 - Fix xfs.init 'fonts.dir: No such file or directory' errors (#155349) * Mon May 16 2005 Kristian H??gsberg 6.8.2-32 - Add patch xorg-x11-6.8.2-ati-radeon-ppc-enable-dynamic-clocks.patch from David Woodhouse to enable dynamic clocks for radeons by default on PPC (#152648). * Fri May 13 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-31 - Added xorg-x11-6.8.2-ati-ragexl-ia64-avoidcpiofix.patch to workaround issue on ia64 with CPIO disabled in ati Mach64 driver (#155609,155610). For future reference, this is also included in RHEL4_U1 build 6.8.2-1.EL.13.5. * Sat Apr 30 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-30 - Disabled xfs.init-fc4-startearly.patch as it breaks systems that /usr is on NFS. (FC4Blocker #156413) * Mon Apr 25 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-29 - Added xfs.init-fc4-startearly.patch to patch xfs.init to start earlier in the boot process for gdm early login on FC4 builds. This is done to the RPM_BUILD_ROOT installed file to ensure the changes do not get checked into CVS for the master initscript accidentally. * Fri Apr 22 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-28 - Added xorg-x11-6.8.2-xft-releasefile-crash.patch for fc4 builds (#155634) - Reordered patch section to clean up numbering inconsistencies - Update freetype BuildRequires to version 2.1.8, which is what ships in 6.8.2 stock. * Fri Apr 22 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-27 - Change xfs initscript dependancies from "Requires(preun,postun):" to using two separate lines because rpm has a bug (#118773) that causes dependancies of this syntax to be ignored. * Thu Apr 21 2005 Soren Sandmann Pedersen - Make old custom-modelines RHEL4 only. Add .laptop-modes.patch with support for various weird laptop resolutions. * Wed Apr 20 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-26 - Re-enable xorg-x11-6.8.2-ati-radeon-disable-broken-renderaccel-by-default.patch patch on FC3/FC4, until we have a new renderaccel patch to test. - Delete Xprint manpage. * Mon Apr 18 2005 Kristian H??gsberg 6.8.2-25 - Add xorg-x11-6.8.1-ati-radeon-dynamic-clocks-fix-2.patch to revert radeon dynamic clock setup to what we had in 6.8.1. The 6.8.2 code still causes lockups on some systems (#152648). * Sat Apr 16 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-24 - Remove the Speedo font files, as Xorg no longer supports Speedo fonts in 6.8.0 onward but includes the fonts accidentally. (#142744,154191) - Changed base subpackage post script to remove the Speedo font path from xfs configuration to avoid warnings in /var/log/messages from xfs about bad font path elements. * Fri Apr 15 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-23 - Disable xorg-x11-6.8.2-ati-radeon-disable-broken-renderaccel-by-default.patch patch on FC3/FC4, so we can test the real bugfix. * Tue Apr 12 2005 Kristian H??gsberg 6.8.2-22 - Remove xorg-x11-6.8.3-intrinsics-gcc4-fdo2893-2305.patch and remember to cvs add xorg-x11-6.8.3-deassert-ddc-lines.patch - Add patches nominated for 6.8.3: - xorg-x11-6.8.3-alpha-srel32-fix-fdo1765-2174.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-canonicalize-builderaddr-1-fdo2884-2293.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-intrinsics-gcc4-fdo2893-2305.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-iso8859-compose-files-fdo2592-2156.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-lbxproxy-fdo2678-2051.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-nv-hw-fdo2533-1896.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-nv-patch-fdo2380-1752.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-radeon-cursor-sync-fdo2844-2230.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-radeon-render-byteswap-fdo2164-1863.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-radeon-set-fb-location-fdo2698-2079.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-saver-c-fdo2194-1613.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-uname-fdo2123-1587.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-void-fdo2467-1828.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-xnest-fdo2599-1964.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-xorgcfg-typo-fdo2896-2311.patch - xorg-x11-6.8.3-xset-fdo2258-2166.patch Add patch to deassert i2s lines after ddc probe (xorg-x11-6.8.3-deassert-ddc-lines.patch). * Tue Apr 5 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-21 - Added xorg-x11-6.8.2-xorg.conf.man-dont-refer-to-nonexisting-example.patch to fix bug (#69335) - Removed dead XFree86-4.2.99.901-parallelmake.patch as it has not worked for several X releases and is unmaintained. * Tue Apr 5 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-20 - Updated pre script to only strip away XkbRules lines indicating "xfree86" or "xorg" rules be used. (#142429) - xfs.init reordered find "-maxdepth" option to be first in the list of options because some people report errors, although I can not reproduce locally, implying it is a change in GNU findutils. (#154056) * Mon Apr 4 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-19 - xfs.init updated with fixes for chkfontpath invocation, as the previous code did not filter the output of chkfontpath very good. The new sed filtering is more reliable now, until chkfontpath is enhanced to provide the info in a way that does not require filtering. - xfs.init updated to handle .ot[cf] fonts before .tt[cf] fonts, which is a small optimization for the case of dirs containing .ot[cf] and .tt[cf] fonts, as it bypasses the prior invocation of ttmkfdir which would get discarded anyway. Now only one of the two will be invoked, however the resulting fonts.dir will be identical to before. - xfs.init updated to *always* run fc-cache without arguments, in order to ensure all fontconfig configured font directories have updated cache files. (#133451) - xfs.init should no longer try to create files on read-only filesystems, coincidentally due to the above changes, except when the font metadata is genuinely outdated, which is an error condition no matter how the filesystem is mounted (#74398) * Sun Apr 3 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-18 - Added new file "CHANGELOG-rpm" as SOURCE25, which contains all rpm spec file changelog entries from XFree86 4.3.0 and older era of historical significance, in order to reduce the per-subpackage rpm payload costs of large changelogs at install time, and to generally reduce spec file clutter. * Sun Apr 3 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-17 - Remove precompiled video and input drivers and duplicate copy of Xorg server binary from xorg-x11-sdk subpackage as they are unnecessary and non-useful duplication consuming CDROM space. * Sat Apr 2 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-16 - Added xorg-x11-6.8.2-use-linux-native-pciscan-by-default.patch to fix PCI config space contention issue by changing the X server to default to using Linux native PCI interfaces instead of directly banging on PCI space itself (#152608). - Clean up xorg-x11-doc subpackage by removing junk that gets installed that should not have been installed by the upstream Makefiles. * Sat Apr 2 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-15 - Added "find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -name CVS -type d | xargs rm -rf" to rm -rf section of %install, to force CVS directories to be removed so they do not end up getting installed in the final packaging. * Tue Mar 29 2005 Mike A. Harris 6.8.2-14 - Added "Provides: libGL = 1" virtual provide to the xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL subpackage, and "Provides: libGLU = 1" virtual provide to the xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU subpackage, so that packages providing the headers can require the virtual provide, rather than a specific implementation. Currently restricted to build_fc4 for beta testing. - Added "Requires: libGL >= 1, libGLU >= 1" to xorg-x11-devel package, as the libGL and libGLU headers are currently present in xorg-x11-devel. Also restricted to build_fc4 for testing. Once confirmed safe, with no regressions, all of these changes should be enabled simultaneously for all builds. --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/ d050923f028a8eed5af61e2f99caabc5 SRPMS/xorg-x11-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.src.rpm 2e69438c2397b08b0870ed8a4c783458 x86_64/xorg-x11-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 76cc619c6b4f124cd8b09e971e421af9 x86_64/xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 89d9afffdabe380582c2a4190a7d4ede x86_64/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 345d4bf90322de99452809b2e8cd4bd4 x86_64/xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 6c20a38515ed5980948299ce58f3ed4c x86_64/xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 87bfd9ffa1605cbd5c0a7d129763aa09 x86_64/xorg-x11-twm-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 84907261a659ca25c53c0f7486148c56 x86_64/xorg-x11-xdm-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 230517091569f81d5ef73284767107c2 x86_64/xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 28ad3294198075cc6bc736e9c456dd2c x86_64/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 618f71a87dece65e09165d844f084091 x86_64/xorg-x11-doc-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 82c94ed881fa22c7e62ec9ff821aa2e2 x86_64/xorg-x11-Xdmx-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm d4a7e5c1c1363cd330f6fddd45143458 x86_64/xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 4e477cbcbeee791e202cc03fe952f076 x86_64/xorg-x11-tools-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 3339060b442edc237944c2e905d49c72 x86_64/xorg-x11-xauth-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm f46bf7f591d7d16d265392a1f747e952 x86_64/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 6904df78414fd3c8126dd92981ee457a x86_64/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 4ffa85bbb0593cc02590b75f41b784ff x86_64/xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm 74ef9cbb1a981080796a724b30c39985 x86_64/xorg-x11-sdk-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.x86_64.rpm d858de2ef6a1a5ea2168b4a2d2e41f69 x86_64/xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 24a5d7ffe875b00d6056a39d6b6d0689 x86_64/xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 4db871a55290c3102e5bce18271cbf88 x86_64/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 295b4db6580c498acef014ff9943ef62 x86_64/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm cb7f92943474e8bff3d9c7ae7ae6f0fa x86_64/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm ed9307c04aae2c8f8a853fcfa364df6a i386/xorg-x11-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm d858de2ef6a1a5ea2168b4a2d2e41f69 i386/xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 004e9b46f9cbba3ee009ce9bd9866782 i386/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 917d2d56402b060e913d96cf37aa4647 i386/xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm f84bdc6076d5889feff1e95be840023a i386/xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 52708ffc16c6c9100a8f6906071e10f5 i386/xorg-x11-twm-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 5069471445ce0e8b35da3058d3cf24be i386/xorg-x11-xdm-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 24a5d7ffe875b00d6056a39d6b6d0689 i386/xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 4db871a55290c3102e5bce18271cbf88 i386/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 3ccb9e3a55a2e00327b3ddba91f16bc6 i386/xorg-x11-doc-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 24485f27c62707ff5517ac5ff489ac7d i386/xorg-x11-Xdmx-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm f467685333b5a6d5752663bb8bcc0854 i386/xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 0498e2f7fbf1176f2302dfb429f47a6a i386/xorg-x11-tools-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 6add17541349e9e4673bd28dcb5cc53a i386/xorg-x11-xauth-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 295b4db6580c498acef014ff9943ef62 i386/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm cb7f92943474e8bff3d9c7ae7ae6f0fa i386/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 70ca1c8732ff65a693c50488439dd468 i386/xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm 29c44989d47dc0a2912214769d84325a i386/xorg-x11-sdk-6.8.2-1.FC3.34.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/$ARCH --------------------------------------------------------------------- From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon May 30 14:29:07 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:29:07 -0500 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: <1117442833.6474.17.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> References: <20050528010429.61034.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1117243766.19135.6.camel@cutter> <1117316550.3355.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4299FE18.30908@cox.net> <1117442833.6474.17.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> Message-ID: On 5/30/05, Keith Sharp wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 10:38 -0700, Scott wrote: > > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > > >l?r, 28.05.2005 kl. 03.29 skrev seth vidal: > > > > > > > > >>On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:04 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>Would Fedora Extras be the place to have Mono > > >>>available then or another repository such as Dag? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>fedora extras is under the same legal restrictions as fedora core. > > >> > > >>-sv > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >Hmm.. What about some "semi-official" repo like livna, but with > > >mono-stuff (Mpackage?) > > > > > >Kyrre > > > > I notice that the mono site has a yum repo for FC3, Is anything else required? > > You would need to get the SRPMs and rebuild them for FC4T3 (and FC4 > eventually). It would also make sense to go over the SPEC files and > make sure they were meeting the requirements of the Extras project. > Finally you should check there is nothing the SPECs/RPMs that would > preclude them moving to Core should the legal/patents issues ever be > cleared up. > > Keith. > I have used/rebuilt on rawhide nrpms.net in the past, the only problem I had was building on x86_64, has a yum.repo for just mono too, Matthew Hall has i386/ppc for fc 2/3. You could look at his spec files and start from there, or contact him for help/suggestions, small chance he would want to start something like Mpackage or maybe help maintain the packages. (not sure) http://www.nrpms.net/ http://www.nrpms.net/Docs/Yum/ "If you just want access to mono packages, you need to perform the following command (as the root user): rpm -ivh http://repo.nrpms.net/nrpms-mono-release/1/RPMS/nrpms-mono-release-1-1.1.fc3.nr.noarch.rpm " From jacob.kroon at gmail.com Mon May 30 15:21:41 2005 From: jacob.kroon at gmail.com (Jacob Kroon) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 17:21:41 +0200 Subject: Mono Stack on Fedora In-Reply-To: References: <20050528010429.61034.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1117243766.19135.6.camel@cutter> <1117316550.3355.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4299FE18.30908@cox.net> <1117442833.6474.17.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> Message-ID: <429B2F85.4030201@gmail.com> Justin Conover wrote: >On 5/30/05, Keith Sharp wrote: > > >>On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 10:38 -0700, Scott wrote: >> >> >>>Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>l?r, 28.05.2005 kl. 03.29 skrev seth vidal: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:04 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Would Fedora Extras be the place to have Mono >>>>>>available then or another repository such as Dag? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>fedora extras is under the same legal restrictions as fedora core. >>>>> >>>>>-sv >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Hmm.. What about some "semi-official" repo like livna, but with >>>>mono-stuff (Mpackage?) >>>> >>>>Kyrre >>>> >>>> >>>I notice that the mono site has a yum repo for FC3, Is anything else required? >>> >>> >>You would need to get the SRPMs and rebuild them for FC4T3 (and FC4 >>eventually). It would also make sense to go over the SPEC files and >>make sure they were meeting the requirements of the Extras project. >>Finally you should check there is nothing the SPECs/RPMs that would >>preclude them moving to Core should the legal/patents issues ever be >>cleared up. >> >>Keith. >> >> >> >I have used/rebuilt on rawhide nrpms.net in the past, the only problem >I had was building on x86_64, has a yum.repo for just mono too, >Matthew Hall has i386/ppc for fc 2/3. You could look at his spec >files and start from there, or contact him for help/suggestions, small >chance he would want to start something like Mpackage or maybe help >maintain the packages. (not sure) > >http://www.nrpms.net/ > >http://www.nrpms.net/Docs/Yum/ > >"If you just want access to mono packages, you need to perform the >following command (as the root user): > >rpm -ivh http://repo.nrpms.net/nrpms-mono-release/1/RPMS/nrpms-mono-release-1-1.1.fc3.nr.noarch.rpm >" > > > For what its worth, Livna already has spec-files for Mono and Gtk-Sharp: Mono - http://bugzilla.livna.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330 Gtk-Sharp - http://bugzilla.livna.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408 Although the gtk-sharp.spec file seems to be unaccesible at the moment. /Jacob From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon May 30 16:26:44 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:26:44 -0500 Subject: ext2online not extending lvm partion Message-ID: This is happening on several box's now, i386/64 selinux off/on, doesn't seem to matter. "ext2online: ext2_ioctl: No space left on device" With 60+GB left, another box has 11GB and another has 80+GB. $ df -h /home Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02 42G 35G 5.0G 88% /home # vgdisplay --- Volume group --- VG Name VolGroup00 System ID Format lvm2 Metadata Areas 1 Metadata Sequence No 20 VG Access read/write VG Status resizable MAX LV 0 Cur LV 8 Open LV 8 Max PV 0 Cur PV 1 Act PV 1 VG Size 148.91 GB PE Size 32.00 MB Total PE 4765 Alloc PE / Size 2716 / 84.88 GB Free PE / Size 2049 / 64.03 GB VG UUID FIl4bH-o9Zi-0zfE-m3by-ieZ2-RaJJ-IVVss0 # lvextend -L+10G /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 Extending logical volume LogVol02 to 60.00 GB Logical volume LogVol02 successfully resized # ext2online -d /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 ext2online v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b ext2_open ext2_bcache_init ext2_determine_itoffset setting itoffset to +1027 ext2_get_reserved Found 1021 blocks in s_reserved_gdt_blocks 343 old groups, 3 blocks 480 new groups, 4 blocks checking for group block 32772 in Bond checking for group block 98308 in Bond checking for group block 163844 in Bond checking for group block 229380 in Bond checking for group block 294916 in Bond checking for group block 819204 in Bond checking for group block 884740 in Bond checking for group block 1605636 in Bond checking for group block 2654212 in Bond checking for group block 4096004 in Bond checking for group block 7962628 in Bond ext2_ioctl: EXTEND group to 11239424 blocks using itoffset of 1027 new block bitmap is at 0xab8401 new inode bitmap is at 0xab8402 new inode table is at 0xab8403-0xab8802 new group has 30717 free blocks new group has 32768 free inodes (1024 blocks) ext2_ioctl: ADD group 343 ext2online: ext2_ioctl: No space left on device ext2online: unable to resize /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02 From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon May 30 16:33:28 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:33:28 -0500 Subject: mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size In-Reply-To: <200505301614.j4UGEP7v011250@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <429AE34F.2080404@redhat.com> <200505301614.j4UGEP7v011250@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 5/30/05, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2005 08:30:49 CDT, Justin Conover said: > > > Right, but why did it not let me created a file system with selinux=1? > > I did a fresh install of fc4t3 on this box too, with the same > > results. > > If you didn't already post the avc messages that mkfs generated (I've already > deleted the first few msgs of this thread), could you do so? They'd be > in /var/log/messages (if you have a default syslog config and aren't using > auditd) or in /var/log/audit/audit.log if you have auditd running.... > > Although I'm suspecting the problem is, as others have mentioned, that your > system needs to be relabeled, and that an improper label on something broke > the mkfs. Ok, still have problems, set "enforcing=0" and relabeled and here is all the bits. # sestatus SELinux status: enabled SELinuxfs mount: /selinux Current mode: enforcing Mode from config file: enforcing Policy version: 19 Policy from config file: targeted # mkdir /lvm_test_dir # vgdisplay --- Volume group --- VG Name VolGroup00 System ID Format lvm2 Metadata Areas 4 Metadata Sequence No 11 VG Access read/write VG Status resizable MAX LV 0 Cur LV 9 Open LV 9 Max PV 0 Cur PV 4 Act PV 4 VG Size 135.28 GB PE Size 32.00 MB Total PE 4329 Alloc PE / Size 1408 / 44.00 GB Free PE / Size 2921 / 91.28 GB VG UUID TxPt55-hDYK-lJmC-Aohb-LbGe-glnr-7046hW # lvcreate -L2G -nLogVol10 VolGroup00 Logical volume "LogVol10" created # mkfs.ext3 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol10 mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) Could not stat /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol10 --- Permission denied # grep mkfs audit/audit.log type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1117397418.851:206892): arch=40000003 syscall=195 success=no exit=-13 a0=bf8aebdf a1=bf8605d8 a2=838ff4 a3=0 items=1 pid=2247 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm="mkfs.ext3" exe="/sbin/mkfs.ext3" type=AVC msg=audit(1117397418.851:206892): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=2247 comm="mkfs.ext3" name=fedora.img dev=dm-7 ino=12 scontext=root:system_r:fsadm_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t tclass=file type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1117397783.921:261196): arch=40000003 syscall=195 success=no exit=-13 a0=bf856bdf a1=bf7eed58 a2=bc7ff4 a3=0 items=1 pid=2308 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm="mkfs.ext3" exe="/sbin/mkfs.ext3" type=AVC msg=audit(1117397783.921:261196): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=2308 comm="mkfs.ext3" name=fedora.img dev=dm-7 ino=12 scontext=root:system_r:fsadm_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t tclass=file type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1117470602.109:1094349): arch=40000003 syscall=195 success=no exit=-13 a0=bf87fc52 a1=bf87e7a8 a2=a1dff4 a3=0 items=1 pid=4009 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 comm="mkfs.ext3" exe="/sbin/mkfs.ext3" type=AVC msg=audit(1117470602.109:1094349): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=4009 comm="mkfs.ext3" name=VolGroup00-LogVol10 dev=tmpfs ino=56551 scontext=root:system_r:fsadm_t tcontext=root:object_r:device_t tclass=blk_file From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon May 30 16:38:54 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:38:54 -0500 Subject: ext2online not extending lvm partion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > # ext2online -d /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 > ext2online v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b > ext2_open > ext2_bcache_init > ext2_determine_itoffset > setting itoffset to +1027 > ext2_get_reserved > Found 1021 blocks in s_reserved_gdt_blocks > > 343 old groups, 3 blocks > 480 new groups, 4 blocks > checking for group block 32772 in Bond > checking for group block 98308 in Bond > checking for group block 163844 in Bond > checking for group block 229380 in Bond > checking for group block 294916 in Bond > checking for group block 819204 in Bond > checking for group block 884740 in Bond > checking for group block 1605636 in Bond > checking for group block 2654212 in Bond > checking for group block 4096004 in Bond > checking for group block 7962628 in Bond > ext2_ioctl: EXTEND group to 11239424 blocks > > using itoffset of 1027 > new block bitmap is at 0xab8401 > new inode bitmap is at 0xab8402 > new inode table is at 0xab8403-0xab8802 > new group has 30717 free blocks > new group has 32768 free inodes (1024 blocks) > ext2_ioctl: ADD group 343 > ext2online: ext2_ioctl: No space left on device > > ext2online: unable to resize /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02 > # tail /var/log/messages May 30 11:20:51 morpheus kernel: JBD: ext2online wants too many credits (2050 > 2048) From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 30 16:58:54 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 17:58:54 +0100 Subject: Flash gone quiet Message-ID: <1117472334.8442.69.camel@localhost> Hi, Not sure if this is an FC bug and if it is, what to file it under, but flash games have gone totally silent! Any ideas on this? The sound system is working fine through XMMS, cdplayer and Xine. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Klaasjan From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 30 19:02:55 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:02:55 +0100 Subject: Flash gone quiet In-Reply-To: <1117476230.3509.0.camel@isengard> References: <1117472334.8442.69.camel@localhost> <1117476230.3509.0.camel@isengard> Message-ID: <1117479775.8442.85.camel@localhost> Hi, > > The sound system is working fine through XMMS, cdplayer and Xine. > > Is there something else blocking /dev/dsp? Nope. I can play XMMS and Xine at the same time as well as talking to someone on Skype. > If you don't have a multi-channel soundcare, maybe the dmix plugin was > disabled for your card. Not as far as I can see. Audigy 2 Soundblaster. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From korgull at home.nl Mon May 30 19:29:50 2005 From: korgull at home.nl (Marcel Janssen) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:29:50 +0200 Subject: any java expert on 64 bit ? Message-ID: <200505302129.50266.korgull@home.nl> Hi, I'm trying to run xnap (http://xnap.sourceforge.net) on a FC4test3 system, but it ends in : java -jar xnap.jar Could not read startup classpath from /root/.xnap/loader (/root/.xnap/loader (No such file or directory)) Using default class path Could not load XNap java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.xnap.XNap not found in org.xnap.loader.XNapClassLoader{urls=[file:/forms-1.0.2/forms-1.0.2.jar,file:/jh-1.1.3/jh-1.1.3.jar,file:/gnu.getopt-1.0.9/gnu.getopt-1.0.9.jar,file:/libreadline-java-0.8.0/libreadline-java-0.8.0.jar,file:/log4j-1.2.8/log4j-1.2.8.jar,file:/touchgraph-1.21/touchgraph-1.21.jar,file:/xnap-core-3.0-pre1/xnap-core-3.0-pre1.jar,file:/xnap-core-3.0-pre1/xnap-icons-1.jar,file:/kunststoff-2.0.1/kunststoff-2.0.1.jar], parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:xnap.jar,file:./], parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}}} at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String, boolean) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at org.xnap.loader.XNapLoader.invoke(java.lang.String, boolean, java.lang.String[]) (Unknown Source) at org.xnap.loader.XNapLoader.main(java.lang.String[]) (Unknown Source) at .main (/usr/lib64/libgij.so.6.0.0) at .__libc_start_main (/lib64/libc-2.3.5.so) Could not find suitable loader file, giving up I'm no expert in java at all and have no clue where to look for a solution. Besides that I think it may have something to do with this new 1.5.0 java or the fact that I'm on a 64 bit system. Anyone who can help me going with this ? Thanks, Marcel From ba at linuxin.dk Mon May 30 20:01:08 2005 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 22:01:08 +0200 Subject: Eclipse frezes the computer Message-ID: <1117483268.3336.5.camel@Mars> Hi When i log in as root and starts Eclipse, it lock down the hole computer. I cant even ssh it, for at reboot. Can anyone verify that "bug"? The reason why i will start is as root is because i need the Visual Editor, and has to install the plugin, but thats not the reason for the freeze. Il' never get that far before it lucks up... -- Regards/Hilsen Bjorn Andersen From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon May 30 20:02:44 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:02:44 -0500 Subject: mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size In-Reply-To: <200505301725.j4UHPKXi014249@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <429AE34F.2080404@redhat.com> <200505301614.j4UGEP7v011250@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <200505301725.j4UHPKXi014249@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 5/30/05, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2005 11:33:28 CDT, Justin Conover said: > > OK, with this info, I'm convinced that (a) you're not nuts, (b) your system is > labelled the way we told it to be labelled, and (c) we told it the wrong thing. ;) > Not so fast on "A" :D > > # lvcreate -L2G -nLogVol10 VolGroup00 > > Logical volume "LogVol10" created > > > > # mkfs.ext3 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol10 > > mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) > > Could not stat /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol10 --- Permission denied > > Could you do a 'ls -lZ /dev/VolGroup00'? I'd like to verify that lvcreate > left LogVol10 labelled correctly - although I suspect that it got left what > lvm thought it should be, and the policy wanted something else.... # ls -lZ /dev/VolGroup00 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol00 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol01 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol01 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol02 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol03 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol03 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol04 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol04 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol05 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol05 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol06 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol06 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol07 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol07 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol08 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol08 lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:device_t LogVol10 -> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol10 > > > # grep mkfs audit/audit.log > > type=AVC msg=audit(1117397418.851:206892): avc: denied { getattr } > > for pid=2247 comm="mkfs.ext3" name=fedora.img dev=dm-7 ino=12 > > scontext=root:system_r:fsadm_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t > > tclass=file > > This one looks like an attempt to scribble on a file called fedora.img - > can you do a 'grep dm-7 /proc/mounts' and then do a 'find /filesys -name > fedora.img -ls' and perhaps ls -lZ the file? > fedora.img is part of some Xen stuff I was doing, which initially started this whole thing of mkfs not working. > (Anybody recognize this one? I'm guessing it's a mkinitrd and dm-7 is /tmp...) > > > type=AVC msg=audit(1117397783.921:261196): avc: denied { getattr } > > for pid=2308 comm="mkfs.ext3" name=fedora.img dev=dm-7 ino=12 > > scontext=root:system_r:fsadm_t tcontext=root:object_r:file_t > > tclass=file > > Another one of the same... > > > type=AVC msg=audit(1117470602.109:1094349): avc: denied { getattr } > > for pid=4009 comm="mkfs.ext3" name=VolGroup00-LogVol10 dev=tmpfs > > ino=56551 scontext=root:system_r:fsadm_t > > tcontext=root:object_r:device_t tclass=blk_file > > Here's the one that's causing yu the pain, and yes, it's borked up, and no, > it doesn't apear to be your fault - the system (lvm in particular) could be > doing a better job of labelling... > > Hmm.. I'll place bets that if you do a 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/dm-N' that it will work > just fine, as they're created as fixed_disk_device_t. At least on my box, the > symlink entries in /dev/VolGroup00 are being created as 'device_t' - and the > targets in /dev/mapper are tmpfs_t (quite borked) of all things. > > Fortuitously, we have this in fsadm.te: > > # for /dev/shm > allow fsadm_t tmpfs_t:dir { getattr search }; > allow fsadm_t tmpfs_t:file { read write }; > > which seems to be likely to allow the access for all the wrong reasons. > > I'm thinking the symlinks in /dev/VolGroup00 should be fixed_disk_device_t rather > than device_t - do others concur? And I'm suspecting the stuff in /dev/mapper > needs to be set to fixed_disk_device_t as well - that way the /dev/dm-* and > /dev/mapper/* entries for the same device are the same type (a nasty security > exposure otherwise...) > > How do we get lvm to DTRT here? We can add a line to file_contexts/program/lvm.fc > to fix the /dev/mapper entries: > > --- file_contexts/program/lvm.fc.dist 2005-05-20 14:53:12.000000000 -0400 > +++ file_contexts/program/lvm.fc 2005-05-30 13:10:03.000000000 -0400 > @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ > /etc/lvm/lock(/.*)? system_u:object_r:lvm_lock_t > /var/lock/lvm(/.*)? system_u:object_r:lvm_lock_t > /dev/lvm -c system_u:object_r:fixed_disk_device_t > +/dev/mapper/.* -c system_u:object_r:fixed_disk_device_t > /dev/mapper/control -c system_u:object_r:lvm_control_t > /lib/lvm-10/.* -- system_u:object_r:lvm_exec_t > /lib/lvm-200/.* -- system_u:object_r:lvm_exec_t > > At least on my system, that leaves the /dev/mapper/* entries more sane.... > > (Justin - the above patch won't fly unless you have policy-sources installed. > If you're feeling brave, crazy, and adventurous, make a similar change to > /etc/selinux/strict/contexts/files/file_contexts, and then do a > 'restorecon -v -R /dev' - make sure to save a backup of file_contexts first.. ;) > > After that, you *should* be able to do a 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol10' > > But that still leaves the symlinks in /dev/VolGroup00 set wrong. Do we need > to add a 'follow symlink' in lvm.te? We can't fix this one in the file_contexts, > because that dirname is essentially user-selected - on my system it's /dev/rootvg > (guess who comes from an AIX background? ;) > > Or is there other borkedness here, and that it's the /dev/mapper/* that's causing > Justin's indigestion, but we're reporting the context of the symlink rather than > the target that's actually failing? (Anybody want to devise a quick test case > for this one?) > I have no problem doing some of this if someone else chimes in too, it's a new box I'm working on so there is nothing that a new install wont cure for a borked system. From selinux at gmail.com Mon May 30 20:16:25 2005 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 13:16:25 -0700 Subject: Eclipse frezes the computer In-Reply-To: <1117483268.3336.5.camel@Mars> References: <1117483268.3336.5.camel@Mars> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530505301316d90db7a@mail.gmail.com> On 5/30/05, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > Hi > > When i log in as root and starts Eclipse, it lock down the hole > computer. I cant even ssh it, for at reboot. > > Can anyone verify that "bug"? > > > The reason why i will start is as root is because i need the Visual > Editor, and has to install the plugin, but thats not the reason for the > freeze. Il' never get that far before it lucks up... > Yeah, known bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=152386 tom -- Tom London From glozano at noldata.com Mon May 30 21:30:21 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:30:21 -0500 Subject: IP Configuration: (was) Re: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <1117406484.6021.19.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> References: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> <1117406484.6021.19.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: <1117488621.5161.0.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> About the IP configuration being lost, I have tracked the problem to the new NetworkManager program. I deactivated it, and now everything is normal.... On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 17:41 -0500, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > More interesting yet, after doing some tests, I came to the conclusion, > the ath0 interface lost its ip address as soon as a link is detected in > eth0, I re-ran everything with the eth0 unplugged.. and everything > worked fine until it get a Link.. I dont if this can probably come from > the Interrupts: > > ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:90:96:F6:7E:A7 > inet addr:192.168.254.104 Bcast:192.168.254.255 > Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:135193 errors:112 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:112 > TX packets:171764 errors:23 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:199 > RX bytes:106127772 (101.2 MiB) TX bytes:27167651 (25.9 MiB) > Interrupt:11 Memory:dc8c0000-dc8d0000 > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:3F:D8:C0:30 > UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:373 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:6872 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:39233 (38.3 KiB) TX bytes:451056 (440.4 KiB) > Interrupt:11 Base address:0xa000 > > > They are both using the same irq... > > On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 18:38 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Sunday 29 May 2005 18:24, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > That's a good bit of info to know as I'm running my laptop with > > > selinux=0 because when I connect it to our corporate network DHCP > > > can't get an IP address with it enabled. Its a Dell D600 laptop with a > > > Broadcom tg3 network adapter. The DHCP server is (unfortunately) a > > > Windows 2003SP1 server. > > > > Are any AVC messages logged when the DHCP client fails? > > > > -- > > http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages > > http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark > > http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark > > http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page > > -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From dcbw at redhat.com Mon May 30 21:37:06 2005 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 17:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: IP Configuration: (was) Re: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <1117488621.5161.0.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> References: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> <1117406484.6021.19.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117488621.5161.0.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 May 2005, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > About the IP configuration being lost, I have tracked the problem to the > new NetworkManager program. > > I deactivated it, and now everything is normal.... It shouldn't be started by default, even if it's installed. Did you by chance enable it with 'chkconfig' or 'service'? Dan From glozano at noldata.com Mon May 30 22:09:51 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 17:09:51 -0500 Subject: IP Configuration: (was) Re: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: References: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> <1117406484.6021.19.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117488621.5161.0.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: <1117490991.5161.4.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> As far I remember.. probably, when playing around with 5 different wifi hotspots at our office.. On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 17:37 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2005, Gustavo A. Lozano wrote: > > > About the IP configuration being lost, I have tracked the problem to the > > new NetworkManager program. > > > > I deactivated it, and now everything is normal.... > > It shouldn't be started by default, even if it's installed. Did you by chance > enable it with 'chkconfig' or 'service'? > > Dan > -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From pbrobinson at gmail.com Mon May 30 22:47:18 2005 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 23:47:18 +0100 Subject: IP Configuration: (was) Re: SELinux blocking EVERYTHING! In-Reply-To: <1117488621.5161.0.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> References: <200505291519.40902.russell@coker.com.au> <5256d0b05052901242286d9ae@mail.gmail.com> <200505291838.44143.russell@coker.com.au> <1117406484.6021.19.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117488621.5161.0.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: <5256d0b0505301547480c3c22@mail.gmail.com> > About the IP configuration being lost, I have tracked the problem to the > new NetworkManager program. > > I deactivated it, and now everything is normal.... I've played with NetworkManager and it doesn't seem to be able to handle my wired connection at all. That aside, even with it disabled, if I connect my laptop to our LAN with selinux running I can't get an IP address. I'm not sure if its something with my tg3 network card or the fact that the DHCP server is Windows 2003SP1 (probably the windows component in general). Since I changed my grub config from selinux=0 to enforcing=0 I've seen alot of the avc deny statements in the messages file with some mentions of dhclient and ping. I can attach some if they are of interest to people. The only thing I can think of that may cause problems (not sure if it would though) is that I'm using a slightly old kernel as the newer ipw2200 works much better for me and was rolled back in some of the later kernels. Pete From hmj at elgert.dk Mon May 30 22:58:50 2005 From: hmj at elgert.dk (Harry Jensen) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:58:50 +0200 Subject: Openoffice segmentation fault, FC4 (x86_64) In-Reply-To: <1117433030.3544.2.camel@isengard> References: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> <1117367562.6278.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4299BEE2.9020601@elgert.dk> <1117433030.3544.2.camel@isengard> Message-ID: <429B9AAA.7010107@elgert.dk> Klaasjan Brand wrote: > > Current nvidia binary drivers produce a segfault on rawhide when using > opengl. Maybe your openoffice has opengl acceleration enabled? > > Klaasjan You got me ;-) .. I installed the openoffice packages, but don't know if it is possible to "switch" off opengl, is there someting I can do to try this out? Bgdrs. Harry From mike at netlyncs.com Mon May 30 23:30:54 2005 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 23:30:54 +0000 Subject: Kernel updates Message-ID: <1117495854.2481.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Is anyone using the kernels from the below dir? If so, is it me or is that dir missing header dir to use yum to update it? I can't find the header dir anywhere, up or down the path. http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/ -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Everything is difficult before it's easy!" From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 30 23:31:38 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:31:38 +0100 Subject: Strange USB Pen problem Message-ID: <1117495898.8442.128.camel@localhost> Hi, Just noticed this one. What component should the bug get put under though? If I use my USB pen and transfer something to it where the filename is all uppercase, the filename is converted to all lowercase (for example SENDA becomes senda). Everything still works, but it's a strange one. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Patrick From justin at skull.co.nz Tue May 31 00:36:35 2005 From: justin at skull.co.nz (Justin Cook) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:36:35 +1200 Subject: External connections locked out after about a day Message-ID: Hi there Bit of a Linux noob here, so don't ask anything too technical. It's yer own damn fault for making it so awesomely easy to install. I'm running FC4T3 and I've noticed that after 20-24 hours the box starts refusing external connections, specifically SSH and web (haven't tried others). Duh, I forgot to check if it could connect to external sites itself before rebooting it a few moments ago, but it'll connect to localhost just fine. Known issue? New one? How do I report this, what do I need to do? Cheers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glozano at noldata.com Mon May 30 23:37:54 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 18:37:54 -0500 Subject: Strange USB Pen problem In-Reply-To: <1117495898.8442.128.camel@localhost> References: <1117495898.8442.128.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1117496274.5161.6.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Dont sure, but probably your usb pen have an FAT filesystem... I am guessing here.. On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 00:31 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Just noticed this one. What component should the bug get put under > though? > > If I use my USB pen and transfer something to it where the filename is > all uppercase, the filename is converted to all lowercase (for example > SENDA becomes senda). > > Everything still works, but it's a strange one. > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From greenrd at presidium.org Tue May 31 01:22:02 2005 From: greenrd at presidium.org (Robin Green) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Eclipse frezes the computer In-Reply-To: <1117483268.3336.5.camel@Mars> References: <1117483268.3336.5.camel@Mars> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 May 2005, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > When i log in as root and starts Eclipse, it lock down the hole > computer. I cant even ssh it, for at reboot. > > Can anyone verify that "bug"? It is a known bug, it is filed in Bugzilla. > The reason why i will start is as root is because i need the Visual > Editor, and has to install the plugin I think when I installed the visual editor plugin I just unzipped it into /usr/share/eclipse, and it worked. -- Robin From ttaranov at gmail.com Tue May 31 01:30:26 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:30:26 -0400 Subject: Kernel updates In-Reply-To: <1117495854.2481.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1117495854.2481.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: I used it once to get a baseline for a 64-bit kernel I needed - I ended up just downloading the sources rpm and rebuilding the kernel (since I had to do a kernel recompile anyway b/c of my hardware drivers). Worked pretty well for me. I believe though that Dave merges his changes peridiocally into some main tree from where you can download and install precompiled rpms using the regular yum update command. Not sure how often he does this though. On 5/30/05, Mike Chambers wrote: > Is anyone using the kernels from the below dir? If so, is it me or is > that dir missing header dir to use yum to update it? I can't find the > header dir anywhere, up or down the path. > > http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/ > > -- > Mike Chambers > Madisonville, KY > > "Everything is difficult before it's easy!" > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ttaranov at gmail.com Tue May 31 01:36:12 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:36:12 -0400 Subject: FC4 on June 6? Message-ID: Hi - I'm just curious - is FC4 on scheduled for the June 6 release date? Thanks, Tim From ttaranov at gmail.com Tue May 31 01:48:06 2005 From: ttaranov at gmail.com (Tim Taranov) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:48:06 -0400 Subject: any java expert on 64 bit ? In-Reply-To: <200505302129.50266.korgull@home.nl> References: <200505302129.50266.korgull@home.nl> Message-ID: xnap didn't get installed properly? I've never used Xnap but it looks like your system is missing a .jar file someplace (the error basically says what it says - could not load a startup class - the class with the main() method or something that is referenced by it - from whatever folder). You could open the xnap.jar with some zip archiver and look inside the manifest file - it'll tell you the main class, which I guess is org.xnap.XNap - as well as any other jar files that Xnap is supposed to have available for it to run). If XNap is maintained properly then you should probably find their installation or troubleshooting instructions on how to deal with this. On the surface, It doesn't look like this issue has got anything in particular to do with FC4 or java VM. On 5/30/05, Marcel Janssen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to run xnap (http://xnap.sourceforge.net) on a FC4test3 system, but > it ends in : > > java -jar xnap.jar > Could not read startup classpath from /root/.xnap/loader (/root/.xnap/loader > (No such file or directory)) > Using default class path > Could not load XNap > java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.xnap.XNap not found in > org.xnap.loader.XNapClassLoader{urls=[file:/forms-1.0.2/forms-1.0.2.jar,file:/jh-1.1.3/jh-1.1.3.jar,file:/gnu.getopt-1.0.9/gnu.getopt-1.0.9.jar,file:/libreadline-java-0.8.0/libreadline-java-0.8.0.jar,file:/log4j-1.2.8/log4j-1.2.8.jar,file:/touchgraph-1.21/touchgraph-1.21.jar,file:/xnap-core-3.0-pre1/xnap-core-3.0-pre1.jar,file:/xnap-core-3.0-pre1/xnap-icons-1.jar,file:/kunststoff-2.0.1/kunststoff-2.0.1.jar], > parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:xnap.jar,file:./], > parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}}} > at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(java.lang.String) > (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.6.0.0) > at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String, boolean) > (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.6.0.0) > at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String) > (/usr/lib64/libgcj.so.6.0.0) > at org.xnap.loader.XNapLoader.invoke(java.lang.String, boolean, > java.lang.String[]) (Unknown Source) > at org.xnap.loader.XNapLoader.main(java.lang.String[]) (Unknown Source) > at .main (/usr/lib64/libgij.so.6.0.0) > at .__libc_start_main (/lib64/libc-2.3.5.so) > Could not find suitable loader file, giving up > > I'm no expert in java at all and have no clue where to look for a solution. > Besides that I think it may have something to do with this new 1.5.0 java or > the fact that I'm on a 64 bit system. > > Anyone who can help me going with this ? > > Thanks, > Marcel > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From green at redhat.com Tue May 31 02:53:18 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:53:18 -0700 Subject: any java expert on 64 bit ? In-Reply-To: <200505302129.50266.korgull@home.nl> References: <200505302129.50266.korgull@home.nl> Message-ID: <1117507999.6092.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 21:29 +0200, Marcel Janssen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to run xnap (http://xnap.sourceforge.net) on a FC4test3 system, but > it ends in : > > java -jar xnap.jar > Could not read startup classpath from /root/.xnap/loader (/root/.xnap/loader > (No such file or directory)) The "java" you're using is actually gij. xnap is a Swing application and will not run on gij, although this has nothing to do with your problem. I ran xnap on gij with an updated libgcj. It managed to get further but failed a little further along. You'll need to install a proprietary JVM (Sun, IBM, or BEA) and use that for now. AG From davej at redhat.com Tue May 31 03:12:41 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 23:12:41 -0400 Subject: Kernel updates In-Reply-To: <1117495854.2481.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1117495854.2481.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <20050531031241.GB20663@redhat.com> On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 11:30:54PM +0000, Mike Chambers wrote: > Is anyone using the kernels from the below dir? If so, is it me or is > that dir missing header dir to use yum to update it? I can't find the > header dir anywhere, up or down the path. > > http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/ The version of yum on the server that creates the repo is somewhat out of date. I've been meaning to get around to changing my scripts to use a different host to create the repodata, but I've just not had the time. Dave From davej at redhat.com Tue May 31 03:15:07 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 23:15:07 -0400 Subject: Kernel updates In-Reply-To: References: <1117495854.2481.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <20050531031507.GC20663@redhat.com> On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 09:30:26PM -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > I used it once to get a baseline for a 64-bit kernel I needed - I > ended up just downloading the sources rpm and rebuilding the kernel > (since I had to do a kernel recompile anyway b/c of my hardware > drivers). Worked pretty well for me. I believe though that Dave merges > his changes peridiocally into some main tree from where you can > download and install precompiled rpms using the regular yum update > command. Not sure how often he does this though. How it works is.. I throw the srpm at the build system, and RPMs pop out the other side. Once every so often (I think hourly, though I've forgotten what I set it to) a cronjob fires, which copies everything out of the build system to people.redhat.com Normally, the following day, the highest version that is in the buildroot gets pushed out to rawhide. Closer to release, the automated 'if you build it, it goes to rawhide' thing gets turned off, and packages get pushed through manually (which hopefully explains why rawhide is 1-2 days behind what you see on my people.redhat.com page the last few weeks). Dave From goemon at anime.net Tue May 31 03:47:53 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <1117034932.32155.130.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 May 2005, Stephen Smalley wrote: > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 05:47 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > > You mean FC4T3 installer has it? Or you mean the latest kernel > > downloadable via yum updater? > FC4T3 kernel should have included the reiserfs xattr fixes to make it > work with SELinux, as the fixes were included in upstream kernels >= > 2.6.12-rc1, and 2.6.12-rc1 was included in FC4 kernels a long time ago > (1.1187, 2005/03/18). For that matter, I would have expected it in > FC4T2 as well. Nope, FC4T3 is busted and not only that, it won't be fixed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159123 -Dan From davej at redhat.com Tue May 31 03:55:39 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 23:55:39 -0400 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: <1117034932.32155.130.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <20050531035538.GA30782@redhat.com> On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 08:47:53PM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2005, Stephen Smalley wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 05:47 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > > > You mean FC4T3 installer has it? Or you mean the latest kernel > > > downloadable via yum updater? > > FC4T3 kernel should have included the reiserfs xattr fixes to make it > > work with SELinux, as the fixes were included in upstream kernels >= > > 2.6.12-rc1, and 2.6.12-rc1 was included in FC4 kernels a long time ago > > (1.1187, 2005/03/18). For that matter, I would have expected it in > > FC4T2 as well. > > Nope, FC4T3 is busted and not only that, it won't be fixed: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159123 As with any unsupported component, you can file a bug in the upstream bugzilla (bugzilla.kernel.org in this case), and Fedora will inherit any fixes in a future update. Dave From russell at coker.com.au Tue May 31 03:56:12 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:56:12 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <200505300726.26279.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200505261410.01716.russell@coker.com.au> <200505300726.26279.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <200505311356.16672.russell@coker.com.au> On Monday 30 May 2005 07:26, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thursday 26 May 2005 14:09, Russell Coker wrote: > > I reported a bug where I had a file system which if mounted would have a > > "find /" operation cause a kernel Oops. As far as I am aware the bug in > > question was never fixed. > > My previous message didn't go to the list because the attachment was too > big. > > I've devised a test case that causes the ReiserFS v3 driver to access > random memory and cause big problems (Oops and a clean shutdown is > impossible). The test case is a file system that was freshly fsck'd so it > indicates a bug in reiserfsck and the kernel code. > > The file system image is on http://www.coker.com.au/bug/reiser3.bz2 Hans, there is a bug reported against Reiser3 which has been closed as WONTFIX as it's a ReiserFS kernel issue and ReiserFS is unsupported. Are you interested in fixing this? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159123 From byte at aeon.com.my Tue May 31 04:58:06 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:58:06 +1000 Subject: FC4 on June 6? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117515486.3151.20.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 21:36 -0400, Tim Taranov wrote: > I'm just curious - is FC4 on scheduled for the June 6 release date? Yes, currently. Its sort of just been branched as well -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 31 05:39:46 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 06:39:46 +0100 Subject: Strange USB Pen problem In-Reply-To: <1117496274.5161.6.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> References: <1117495898.8442.128.camel@localhost> <1117496274.5161.6.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: <1117517986.8442.143.camel@localhost> Hi, > Dont sure, but probably your usb pen have an FAT filesystem... > > I am guessing here.. Even if it was FAT32, I've never seen a name translation like that before. TTFN Paul -- "Space", it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big space really is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemists, but that's just *peanuts* compared to space, listen" - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From korgull at home.nl Tue May 31 06:43:57 2005 From: korgull at home.nl (Marcel Janssen) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 08:43:57 +0200 Subject: any java expert on 64 bit ? In-Reply-To: <1117507999.6092.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200505302129.50266.korgull@home.nl> <1117507999.6092.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200505310843.57993.korgull@home.nl> On Tuesday 31 May 2005 04:53, Anthony Green wrote: > The "java" you're using is actually gij. xnap is a Swing application > and will not run on gij, although this has nothing to do with your > problem. I ran xnap on gij with an updated libgcj. It managed to get > further but failed a little further along. > > You'll need to install a proprietary JVM (Sun, IBM, or BEA) and use that > for now. That must be it than. java points to /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.4.2-gcj/bin/java I'll install the other VM and see how it goes. Thanks, Marcel From mpeters at mac.com Tue May 31 07:24:43 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:24:43 -0700 Subject: External connections locked out after about a day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1117524284.4072.12.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 12:36 +1200, Justin Cook wrote: > > I?m running FC4T3 and I?ve noticed that after 20-24 hours the box > starts refusing external connections, specifically SSH and web > (haven?t tried others). Duh, I forgot to check if it could connect to > external sites itself before rebooting it a few moments ago, but it?ll > connect to localhost just fine. I haven't experienced that. I have experienced an odd thing though - one of my boxes is running a caching nameserver. It will stop responding to dns request from my iMac (also running fedora rawhide) but continue to accept them from my laptop and my workstation. The iMac is on a different subnet than my laptop and workstation. dns server - on 192.168.15.255 subnet wireless router also on that subnet laptop and workstation on 192.168.1.255 subnet restarting named on the dns server resolves the issue for the imac for awhile - I haven't bothered yet to look in the logs to see if it says why it starts rejecting them. From mpeters at mac.com Tue May 31 07:26:11 2005 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:26:11 -0700 Subject: Strange USB Pen problem In-Reply-To: <1117517986.8442.143.camel@localhost> References: <1117495898.8442.128.camel@localhost> <1117496274.5161.6.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117517986.8442.143.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1117524371.4072.13.camel@laptop.mpeters.local> On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 06:39 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > Dont sure, but probably your usb pen have an FAT filesystem... > > > > I am guessing here.. > > Even if it was FAT32, I've never seen a name translation like that > before. fat 32 is not case sensitive or case preserving. From hmj at elgert.dk Tue May 31 07:56:41 2005 From: hmj at elgert.dk (Harry Jensen) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 09:56:41 +0200 Subject: Openoffice segmentation fault, FC4 (x86_64) In-Reply-To: <1117496872.3410.2.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <42997E37.7010500@elgert.dk> <1117367562.6278.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4299BEE2.9020601@elgert.dk> <1117433030.3544.2.camel@isengard> <429B9AAA.7010107@elgert.dk> <1117496872.3410.2.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <429C18B9.9040803@elgert.dk> Patrick wrote: > > And deselect "Use OpenGL" under 3D view on the right side of the menu. > ..hmmm, was already deselected.. -- Brgds. Harry Jensen / Denmark / DK-2990 Nivaa ** Linux / Fedora Core 4 ** From buildsys at redhat.com Tue May 31 11:43:08 2005 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 07:43:08 -0400 Subject: rawhide report: 20050531 changes Message-ID: <200505311143.j4VBh8SM017814@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: GFS-kernel-2.6.11.7-20050519.153509.FC4.9 ----------------------------------------- cman-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.11 ------------------------------------------- dlm-kernel-2.6.11.4-20050517.141233.FC4.11 ------------------------------------------ glibc-2.3.5-10 -------------- * Mon May 30 2005 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.5-10 - fix LD_ASSUME_KERNEL (since 2.3.5-8 GLRO(dl_osversion) has been always overwritten with the version of currently running kernel) - remove linuxthreads man pages other than those covered in 3p section, as 3p man pages are far better quality and describe POSIX behaviour that NPTL implements (#159084) gnbd-kernel-2.6.11.2-20050420.133124.FC4.33 ------------------------------------------- iptraf-2.7.0-15 --------------- * Tue May 17 2005 Karsten Hopp 2.7.0-15 - move config file to %{_sysconfdir}/iptraf.cfg to prevent deletion at bootup (#157794) * Tue May 10 2005 Karsten Hopp 2.7.0-14 - enable debuginfo kernel-2.6.11-1.1366_FC4 ------------------------ * Sun May 29 2005 Dave Jones - Fix slab corruption in firewire (#158424) * Fri May 27 2005 Dave Jones - remove non-cleanroom pwc driver compression. - Fix unintialised value in single bit error detector. (#158825) From justin.conover at gmail.com Tue May 31 13:05:37 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 08:05:37 -0500 Subject: ext2online not extending lvm partion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5/30/05, Justin Conover wrote: > > > # ext2online -d /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 > > ext2online v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b > > ext2_open > > ext2_bcache_init > > ext2_determine_itoffset > > setting itoffset to +1027 > > ext2_get_reserved > > Found 1021 blocks in s_reserved_gdt_blocks > > > > 343 old groups, 3 blocks > > 480 new groups, 4 blocks > > checking for group block 32772 in Bond > > checking for group block 98308 in Bond > > checking for group block 163844 in Bond > > checking for group block 229380 in Bond > > checking for group block 294916 in Bond > > checking for group block 819204 in Bond > > checking for group block 884740 in Bond > > checking for group block 1605636 in Bond > > checking for group block 2654212 in Bond > > checking for group block 4096004 in Bond > > checking for group block 7962628 in Bond > > ext2_ioctl: EXTEND group to 11239424 blocks > > > > using itoffset of 1027 > > new block bitmap is at 0xab8401 > > new inode bitmap is at 0xab8402 > > new inode table is at 0xab8403-0xab8802 > > new group has 30717 free blocks > > new group has 32768 free inodes (1024 blocks) > > ext2_ioctl: ADD group 343 > > ext2online: ext2_ioctl: No space left on device > > > > ext2online: unable to resize /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02 > > > # tail /var/log/messages > > May 30 11:20:51 morpheus kernel: JBD: ext2online wants too many > credits (2050 > 2048) > Anyone have a problem extending partions, (3 box's = no go)? Can I go to the bank and buy more credits......... From glozano at noldata.com Tue May 31 13:17:15 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 08:17:15 -0500 Subject: Strange USB Pen problem In-Reply-To: <1117517986.8442.143.camel@localhost> References: <1117495898.8442.128.camel@localhost> <1117496274.5161.6.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117517986.8442.143.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1117545435.3078.2.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> fat 16? On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 06:39 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > Dont sure, but probably your usb pen have an FAT filesystem... > > > > I am guessing here.. > > Even if it was FAT32, I've never seen a name translation like that > before. > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 31 13:33:21 2005 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:33:21 +0100 Subject: Strange USB Pen problem In-Reply-To: <1117545435.3078.2.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> References: <1117495898.8442.128.camel@localhost> <1117496274.5161.6.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117517986.8442.143.camel@localhost> <1117545435.3078.2.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> Message-ID: <1117546401.4177.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > fat 16? Was that the screwed up filer used for Win95? Is there any way of determining the format of the pen? TTFN Paul -- "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Life of Brian, Monty Python From dgonzo at optonline.net Tue May 31 13:48:46 2005 From: dgonzo at optonline.net (Daniel Gonzalez) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 09:48:46 -0400 Subject: Strange USB Pen problem In-Reply-To: <1117546401.4177.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1117495898.8442.128.camel@localhost> <1117496274.5161.6.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117517986.8442.143.camel@localhost> <1117545435.3078.2.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117546401.4177.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <429C6B3E.3030802@optonline.net> you should be able to see how the OS recognizez it by tailing /var/log/messages or looking at dmesg after the device is connected to the computer. At least that's how I did it on Slackware. (New to fedora) Hope that helps Dan Gonzalez Paul Johnson wrote: >Hi, > > > >>fat 16? >> >> > >Was that the screwed up filer used for Win95? Is there any way of >determining the format of the pen? > >TTFN > >Paul > > From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Tue May 31 13:50:55 2005 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 09:50:55 -0400 Subject: FC4 on June 6? In-Reply-To: <1117515486.3151.20.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> References: <1117515486.3151.20.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> Message-ID: <429C6BBF.5070404@atl.lmco.com> Colin Charles wrote: > Yes, currently. Its sort of just been branched as well Must've missed that announcement. What are you referring to? -- ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs dstewart at atl.lmco.com From byte at aeon.com.my Tue May 31 14:04:37 2005 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:04:37 +1000 Subject: FC4 on June 6? In-Reply-To: <429C6BBF.5070404@atl.lmco.com> References: <1117515486.3151.20.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> <429C6BBF.5070404@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <1117548277.3151.68.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 09:50 -0400, Doug Stewart wrote: > > Yes, currently. Its sort of just been branched as well > > Must've missed that announcement. What are you referring to? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-maintainers/2005-May/msg00220.html And come June 6, await an announcement ;-) -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ From glozano at noldata.com Tue May 31 14:06:37 2005 From: glozano at noldata.com (Gustavo A. Lozano) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 09:06:37 -0500 Subject: Strange USB Pen problem In-Reply-To: <1117546401.4177.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1117495898.8442.128.camel@localhost> <1117496274.5161.6.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117517986.8442.143.camel@localhost> <1117545435.3078.2.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> <1117546401.4177.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1117548397.3078.10.camel@Grissom.noldata.com> mount command for example, with my usb card: # mount ....... ........ /dev/sda1 on /media/USBFLASH type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,_netdev,user=glozano) On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 14:33 +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > > fat 16? > > Was that the screwed up filer used for Win95? Is there any way of > determining the format of the pen? > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" > - Life of Brian, Monty Python > -- ------------------------- ---------------------------- Gustavo A. Lozano Noldata Corporation Chief Technology Officer Carrera 11A No. 90-16 Of 205 Noldata Corporation Bogota D.C. glozano at noldata.com Colombia From twaugh at redhat.com Tue May 31 14:13:07 2005 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:13:07 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Test Update: dos2unix-3.1-21.0.1 Message-ID: <20050531141307.GA8706@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2005-399 2005-05-31 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 3 Name : dos2unix Version : 3.1 Release : 21.0.1 Summary : Text file format converter Description : Dos2unix converts DOS or MAC text files to UNIX format. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This is a bug-fix release. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Apr 13 2005 Tim Waugh 3.1-21.0.1 - Fixed tmppath patch (bug #150277). --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/3/ bc90ff489004dc80933878eee8233ed9 SRPMS/dos2unix-3.1-21.0.1.src.rpm 37dc4956cd2efe44c0823d458f430883 x86_64/dos2unix-3.1-21.0.1.x86_64.rpm a996f68c9e5ba40b19bd70f2f38821c3 x86_64/debug/dos2unix-debuginfo-3.1-21.0.1.x86_64.rpm e5c207ef1162f7272fec6a37787606a2 i386/dos2unix-3.1-21.0.1.i386.rpm 2cc788f6e39fdfaaf96352f121cdaf63 i386/debug/dos2unix-debuginfo-3.1-21.0.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From clumens at redhat.com Tue May 31 14:15:28 2005 From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: system-config-securitylevel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File > "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/system-config-securitylevel.py", > line 18, in ? > app.stand_alone() > File "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/securitylevel.py", line 453, > in stand_alone > self.readFile() > File "/usr/share/system-config-securitylevel/securitylevel.py", line 353, > in readFile > protoname = socket.getservbyport(int(service), protocol) > socket.error: port/proto not found > > Can I get a confirmation that this is broken for someone else too? Yes, I broke it in version 1.5.4-1 from March 29. I've got a fix too but I don't know if it's too late for FC4 or not. It might have to go in as an update right after the release. I'll see what I can do about getting it in. - Chris From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Tue May 31 14:53:08 2005 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:53:08 -0400 Subject: hardlink error installing kernel-devel Message-ID: Today's yum upgrade gave this message: yum upgrade [...] Installing: kernel-devel ####################### [15/38] hardlink: hardlink: no version information available (required by hardlink) hardlink: hardlink: no version information available (required by hardlink) hardlink: symbol lookup error: hardlink: undefined symbol: stderr, version GLIBC_2.2.5 From russell at coker.com.au Tue May 31 15:08:44 2005 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:08:44 +1000 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <429C7CAA.2060609@namesys.com> References: <200505311356.16672.russell@coker.com.au> <429C7CAA.2060609@namesys.com> Message-ID: <200506010108.49482.russell@coker.com.au> On Wednesday 01 June 2005 01:03, Hans Reiser wrote: > Russell Coker wrote: > >Hans, there is a bug reported against Reiser3 which has been closed as > > WONTFIX as it's a ReiserFS kernel issue and ReiserFS is unsupported. Are > > you interested in fixing this? > > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159123 > > Yes, Edward, can you look into this? So xattr is now a supported feature in Reiser3? -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From justin at skull.co.nz Tue May 31 15:34:55 2005 From: justin at skull.co.nz (Justin Cook) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 03:34:55 +1200 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed Message-ID: From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Russell Coker Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 3:09 a.m. To: Hans Reiser Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com; Edward Shishkin Subject: Re: <4> post_create: setxatter failed On Wednesday 01 June 2005 01:03, Hans Reiser wrote: > Russell Coker wrote: > >Hans, there is a bug reported against Reiser3 which has been closed as > > WONTFIX as it's a ReiserFS kernel issue and ReiserFS is unsupported. Are > > you interested in fixing this? > > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159123 > > Yes, Edward, can you look into this? So xattr is now a supported feature in Reiser3? -------------------------- I've always meant to ask - how did Paul find time to write such a great filesystem? In between writing books, that crummy TV show and dodging Helen Hunt's hairy paws, that is. Reiser stuff is on topic, right? From bikehead at amberpoint.com Tue May 31 16:22:39 2005 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Bikehead) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 09:22:39 -0700 Subject: Special actions with NetworkManager connections... Message-ID: <429C8F4F.5050403@amberpoint.com> I think I'm getting the hang of NM in FC4. However, when I connect to certain access points I would like to perform some additional actions after the connection is established or removed. For example, when I connect to AP-home I want to set up route to a remote network that the home AP is a gateway for, but for other APs I want to start vpnc in order to connect to that remote network. Is there a way to accomplish this with NM? Thank you. -- __o _-\<,_ Brian (_)/ (_) From korgull at home.nl Tue May 31 17:30:39 2005 From: korgull at home.nl (Marcel Janssen) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:30:39 +0200 Subject: nvidia and openGL Message-ID: <200505311930.39763.korgull@home.nl> Hi, I experience a crash of X server when I try to run something using openGL. I'm not sure if my approach is correct. I'm using nvidia drivers and I removed the Mesa packages from my system. After this there still seem to be some links left wich where installed by xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-31 /usr/lib64/libGL.so /usr/lib/libGL.so The point where they link to doesn't exist anymore so I linked the first one the nvidia provided one. There is however no 32bit one supplied with my driver. What do I need to do with the link /usr/lib/libGL.so ? Regards, Marcel From ivg2 at cornell.edu Tue May 31 17:45:27 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:45:27 -0400 Subject: nvidia and openGL In-Reply-To: <200505311930.39763.korgull@home.nl> References: <200505311930.39763.korgull@home.nl> Message-ID: <1117561527.4455.2.camel@dhcp83-8.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 19:30 +0200, Marcel Janssen wrote: > Hi, > > I experience a crash of X server when I try to run something using openGL. > I'm not sure if my approach is correct. > I'm using nvidia drivers and I removed the Mesa packages from my system. You shouldn't remove the Mesa stuff from your system. You should also make sure you're using the livna nvidia packages - stay away from the nvidia binary modules, since they will not install properly on a Fedora system. > After this there still seem to be some links left wich where installed by > xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-31 > > /usr/lib64/libGL.so > /usr/lib/libGL.so > > The point where they link to doesn't exist anymore so I linked the first one > the nvidia provided one. There is however no 32bit one supplied with my > driver. > What do I need to do with the link /usr/lib/libGL.so ? This link is only needed to compile stuff against the GL library. The fact that it's not linked to anything is a bug, IMHO, but this isn't going to get fixed until X is modularized (I've asked). It should be linked to your Mesa libGL (which you should install back). However, that doesn't explain why your system crashes... Do /sbin/ldconfig -p|grep libGL ... From korgull at home.nl Tue May 31 18:38:39 2005 From: korgull at home.nl (Marcel Janssen) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:38:39 +0200 Subject: nvidia and openGL In-Reply-To: <1117561527.4455.2.camel@dhcp83-8.boston.redhat.com> References: <200505311930.39763.korgull@home.nl> <1117561527.4455.2.camel@dhcp83-8.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200505312038.39206.korgull@home.nl> On Tuesday 31 May 2005 19:45, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > You shouldn't remove the Mesa stuff from your system. I've just put them back. > You should also make sure you're using the livna nvidia packages - stay > away from the nvidia binary modules, since they will not install > properly on a Fedora system. I've used the ATrpms provided packages. Anyway, X still crashes when I run glxinfo. > Do /sbin/ldconfig -p|grep libGL ... /sbin/ldconfig -p|grep libGL libGLw.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGLw.so.1 libGLw.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLw.so.1 libGLcore.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/nvidia-graphics-1.0-7174/libGLcore.so.1 libGLU.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGLU.so.1 libGLU.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/libGLU.so.1 libGLU.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 libGLU.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 libGLU.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGLU.so libGLU.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/libGLU.so libGLU.so (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so libGLU.so (libc6) => /usr/lib/libGLU.so libGL.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/nvidia-graphics-1.0-7174/libGL.so.1 libGL.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so.1 libGL.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/libGL.so.1 libGL.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 libGL.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 libGL.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so libGL.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/libGL.so libGL.so (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so libGL.so (libc6) => /usr/lib/libGL.so Regards, Marcel From goemon at anime.net Tue May 31 20:27:49 2005 From: goemon at anime.net (Dan Hollis) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: <200506010108.49482.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 01 June 2005 01:03, Hans Reiser wrote: > > Russell Coker wrote: > > >Hans, there is a bug reported against Reiser3 which has been closed as > > > WONTFIX as it's a ReiserFS kernel issue and ReiserFS is unsupported. Are > > > you interested in fixing this? > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159123 > > Yes, Edward, can you look into this? > So xattr is now a supported feature in Reiser3? Not sure what the point is recommending people test unsupported stuff in Fedora if they're going to be closed WONTFIX anyway... does Fedora want unsupported stuff tested or not? It would be nice to get an official statement on the issue. -Dan From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 31 20:45:37 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:45:37 -0500 Subject: nvidia and openGL In-Reply-To: <200505312038.39206.korgull@home.nl> References: <200505311930.39763.korgull@home.nl> <1117561527.4455.2.camel@dhcp83-8.boston.redhat.com> <200505312038.39206.korgull@home.nl> Message-ID: <20050531204537.GC23260@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:38:39PM +0200, Marcel Janssen wrote: > On Tuesday 31 May 2005 19:45, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > You shouldn't remove the Mesa stuff from your system. > > I've just put them back. > > > You should also make sure you're using the livna nvidia packages - stay > > away from the nvidia binary modules, since they will not install > > properly on a Fedora system. > I don't know why you are saying this. I have installed the Nvidia drivers downloaded from Nvidia on all the fedoras and kernels up to and including the latest kernel on FC4test3 and they have worked every time. What goes wrong when you try the install? ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University telephone: (210)-999-7484 From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 31 20:46:30 2005 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:46:30 -0400 Subject: nvidia and openGL In-Reply-To: <20050531204537.GC23260@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <200505311930.39763.korgull@home.nl> <1117561527.4455.2.camel@dhcp83-8.boston.redhat.com> <200505312038.39206.korgull@home.nl> <20050531204537.GC23260@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <604aa79105053113468c5bd69@mail.gmail.com> On 5/31/05, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > What goes wrong when you try the install? the fact that the installer from nvidia delibrately overwrites libraries from the mesa rpms.. leads to problems.. for users who aren't aware of what the installer is doing. The most problematic scenario is when users need to update their Xorg packages including the Mesa packages. The rpms overwrite the nvidia libs that overwrote the libs from rpm. If you aren't expecting that to happen, users can easily misinterpet the resulting errors with bugs in the xorg update packages. The other problematic scenario is if users are told to remove the mesa packages before doing the install of nvidia, subsequent usage of a package management tool like yum to grab an application that requires gl will pull the mesa libs back in to fill the deps. Again, users too easily assume that resulting problems is with the packages they just installed when it directly related to overwriting system libraries with non-rpm managed libraries. Nvidia packages, such as livna's.. avoid these issues by placing the nvidia libs in their own location instead of blowing away the libs from the mesa package. -jef From akonstam at trinity.edu Tue May 31 21:15:23 2005 From: akonstam at trinity.edu (akonstam at trinity.edu) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:15:23 -0500 Subject: nvidia and openGL In-Reply-To: <604aa79105053113468c5bd69@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505311930.39763.korgull@home.nl> <1117561527.4455.2.camel@dhcp83-8.boston.redhat.com> <200505312038.39206.korgull@home.nl> <20050531204537.GC23260@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <604aa79105053113468c5bd69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050531211523.GA23416@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 04:46:30PM -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 5/31/05, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote: > > What goes wrong when you try the install? > > the fact that the installer from nvidia delibrately overwrites > libraries from the mesa rpms.. leads to problems.. for users who > aren't aware of what the installer is doing. The most problematic > scenario is when users need to update their Xorg packages including > the Mesa packages. The rpms overwrite the nvidia libs that overwrote > the libs from rpm. If you aren't expecting that to happen, users can > easily misinterpet the resulting errors with bugs in the xorg update > packages. The other problematic scenario is if users are told to > remove the mesa packages before doing the install of nvidia, > subsequent usage of a package management tool like yum to grab an > application that requires gl will pull the mesa libs back in to fill > the deps. Again, users too easily assume that resulting problems is > with the packages they just installed when it directly related to > overwriting system libraries with non-rpm managed libraries. Nvidia > packages, such as livna's.. avoid these issues by placing the nvidia > libs in their own location instead of blowing away the libs from the > mesa package. > > -jef OK, I admit that you need to remove the Nvidia binaries before you install the mesa rpms , and then install the nvidia again. This is because the two packages have libraries with the same name. What is not clear to me is how if the nvidia rpms put the libraries in a differnt location how are they found when they are needed? -- ======================================================================= 99 blocks of crud on the disk, 99 blocks of crud! You patch a bug, and dump it again: 100 blocks of crud on the disk! 100 blocks of crud on the disk, 100 blocks of crud! You patch a bug, and dump it again: 101 blocks of crud on the disk! ... ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University telephone: (210)-999-7484 From fzied at planet.tn Tue May 31 22:04:18 2005 From: fzied at planet.tn (Fakh) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:04:18 +0200 Subject: tomcat5 eclipse Message-ID: <429CDF62.5090606@planet.tn> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi all, I started testing FC4 excited by the integratino of java development environement. I'm already used to eclipse and tomcat (on redmond). FIRST things first : eclispe when launched by root hangs the workstations :(. Now getting to the main subject : I got the classic tomcat eclipse plugin from sysdeo and installed it. I configured it as Tomcat home is /usr/share/tomcat5 and choosed context files instead of server.xml. now, just for testing, tomcat never get launched from eclipse (with service tomcat5 start it does) someone have got any idea ? Zydoon. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCnN9iS1DO7ovpKz8RAqTLAJ9QH3Sw4JjGJBNRJIzT2o/RibbtVQCg59ik jAU2wYei5AmILZEISvgTCTM= =myvn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ivg2 at cornell.edu Tue May 31 23:10:41 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:10:41 -0400 Subject: nvidia and openGL In-Reply-To: <20050531211523.GA23416@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> References: <200505311930.39763.korgull@home.nl> <1117561527.4455.2.camel@dhcp83-8.boston.redhat.com> <200505312038.39206.korgull@home.nl> <20050531204537.GC23260@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> <604aa79105053113468c5bd69@mail.gmail.com> <20050531211523.GA23416@Moof.cs.trinity.edu> Message-ID: <1117581042.9465.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> > OK, I admit that you need to remove the Nvidia binaries before you > install the mesa rpms , and then install the nvidia again. This is > because the two packages have libraries with the same name. What is not > clear to me is how if the nvidia rpms put the libraries in a differnt > location how are they found when they are needed? They are found, because the include line in ld.so.conf is parsed before the X11R6 line, leading to the nvidia path taking precedence (the nvidia path is /usr/lib/nvidia, added by /etc/ld.so.conf.d/nvidia) What happens is, you are compiling against the Mesa libGL and headers, which, according to Jeff are more standards compliant than the nvidia one, and then you are linking against the nvidia library later. -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From ivg2 at cornell.edu Tue May 31 23:18:51 2005 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:18:51 -0400 Subject: nvidia and openGL In-Reply-To: <200505312038.39206.korgull@home.nl> References: <200505311930.39763.korgull@home.nl> <1117561527.4455.2.camel@dhcp83-8.boston.redhat.com> <200505312038.39206.korgull@home.nl> Message-ID: <1117581531.9465.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> > I've used the ATrpms provided packages. I have not used the ATrpms packages - I would recommend trying the ones from livna.org, since they're known to work. > Anyway, X still crashes when I run glxinfo. Do you see any error messages? Anything in /var/log/*Xorg* that looks bad? You should also run /sbin/lsmod to check whether the nvidia driver is loaded in the kernel. -- Ivan Gyurdiev Cornell University From davej at redhat.com Tue May 31 23:21:02 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:21:02 -0400 Subject: <4> post_create: setxatter failed In-Reply-To: References: <200506010108.49482.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <20050531232102.GB18845@redhat.com> On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Wednesday 01 June 2005 01:03, Hans Reiser wrote: > > > Russell Coker wrote: > > > >Hans, there is a bug reported against Reiser3 which has been closed as > > > > WONTFIX as it's a ReiserFS kernel issue and ReiserFS is unsupported. Are > > > > you interested in fixing this? > > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159123 > > > Yes, Edward, can you look into this? > > So xattr is now a supported feature in Reiser3? > > Not sure what the point is recommending people test unsupported stuff in > Fedora if they're going to be closed WONTFIX anyway... does Fedora want > unsupported stuff tested or not? It would be nice to get an official > statement on the issue. If you hit bugs in JFS/XFS/Reiserfs, you're pretty much guaranteed not to get Red Hat folks jumping on those bugs. There's just not enough manpower to attack everything (especially with some of those filesystems being very complicated internally), and hence we narrow the scope of bugs by limiting the filesystems we class as 'supported'[1]. The best way forward if you must use those filesystems for whatever reason and you find bugs, is to file them upstream. As Fedora aggressively tracks the upstream kernel, the faster stuff is fixed there, the faster it gets fixed in Fedora. Dave [1] Supported is something of a misnomer here given Fedora by its nature is unsupported, but for sake of argument think "We'll investigate this bug if it gets filed in bugzilla.redhat.com" From davej at redhat.com Tue May 31 23:43:13 2005 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:43:13 -0400 Subject: hardlink error installing kernel-devel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050531234313.GD18845@redhat.com> On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 10:53:08AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Today's yum upgrade gave this message: > > yum upgrade > [...] > > Installing: kernel-devel ####################### [15/38] > hardlink: hardlink: no version information available (required by hardlink) > hardlink: hardlink: no version information available (required by hardlink) > hardlink: symbol lookup error: hardlink: undefined symbol: stderr, version > GLIBC_2.2.5 Warren hit this a little while ago too, it's in bugzilla. I've no idea whats causing it yet, but haven't really had a chance to dig into it. Dave From Philip.R.Schaffner at nasa.gov Tue May 31 14:43:31 2005 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at nasa.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:43:31 -0400 Subject: FC4 on June 6? In-Reply-To: <429C6BBF.5070404@atl.lmco.com> References: <1117515486.3151.20.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net> <429C6BBF.5070404@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <1117550611.7854.175.camel@wx1.larc.nasa.gov> On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 09:50 -0400, Doug Stewart wrote: > Colin Charles wrote: > > Yes, currently. Its sort of just been branched as well > > Must've missed that announcement. What are you referring to? Probably... -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Elliot Lee > Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core devel-list at redhat.com> > To: undisclosed-recipients : ; > Subject: Making FC-4 branches in CVS (Core & Extras) > Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:14:43 -0400 (EDT) > Just a heads-up that the branching of Fedora Core and Fedora Extras > CVS repos is imminent. This means that the devel branch will start to be > used for Fedora Core 5 & Fedora Extras for FC5, while the FC-4 branch will > be the place to make updates targetted at FC4. > > This branching should happen sometime today, depending on the builds that > are going on and how the FC4 release shapes up. > -- Elliot