Up2date replacement

[dragoran]

Jeremy Katz wrote:

>On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 14:55 -0700, Don Springall wrote:
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>>I  currently find that updating in fedora is a hit and miss proposition and 
>>I do not trust any of them. I ran yumex this morning and it reports nothing 
>>to update. The same with pup. I run up2date and it finds updates. 
>>Obliviously yumex and pup decided to use some not uptodate mirror.
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>pup uses the exact same configuration as yum itself does.  Which means
>that it uses the mirror list by default.  One thing we want to do is add
>a nicer way of doing persistent mirror selection, but I don't know that
>we'll definitely get to it by FC5.  up2date points to the main download
>site by default (which is less good, IMHO, from a bandwidth perspective)
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>>Does pup and YUMEX use --obsoletes by default ? Who knows ! 
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>Again, they use the default configuration as set by yum instead of
>having their own implementation of this stuff.
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>>Up2date lets you decide to install the updates or not after everything is 
>>downloaded so you can do that later if you have run out of time.
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>Why would you run out of time, though?  How is having the time required
>for downloading different from having the time required for installing?
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>>This is one area that I think REDHAT should spend a lot more development 
>>dollars on. It would also help if there were more groups for "group update"  
>>ie one for Gnome, KDE,  Openoffice and Eclipse etc if yum and yumex are the 
>>direction things are going. Please take PUP out back and beat it to death 
>>with a big stick. BAD DOG !
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>system-config-packages is going to get some love to have a backend based
>on yum as well.  There just wasn't time to get it done before test1.
>One of the things in the works here is reworking the comps file a bit to
>flesh out the groups and then hopefully we'll also get some help on
>adding grouping for packages in Extras as well.
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>Note that yumex is an independently developed application and great for
>the user who wants an interface which gives you all the options.  That's
>not what we're going for with pup/system-config-packages, though, and
>instead are more focusing on making it easy for the user to install
>software. 
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>Cheers,
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>Jeremy
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will system-config-packages with the yum backend be able to install 
software from extras and third party repos?